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Read the document to see my point. 
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They clearly can recognize the "professional style" communication, but it's the generation of the text that they struggle with. Reading examples won't help you if you can't put the examples together.
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2024-17-06
what an excellent use of the word ouroboros. Hats off!
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2024-17-06
Yea established designers. People just starting out trying to establish a client base need those shit jobs. You hire me to do a shit design sure its not like people are blowing up my phone. But i did what you needed so you might consider asking me for something more complicated. This stuff rarely hurts the people who are already in whatever industry for 10-20 years. It raises the barrier of entry for the noobies.
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2024-17-06
I feel you bro but can you hook me up with one of those 20 buck an hour tweaking ai prompt gift gigs? Cheers
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2024-17-06
I work in educational publishing. Here’s a secret: every textbook put out by those big publishers is written by freelance writers. I know because I hire them. Definitely not trivial; any freelancers with subject-matter expertise, teaching experience, and publishing experience is extremely valuable to us. They also are more expensive. Now with AI, management is pushing us to use it as much as possible and slash our rates. I fucking hate it. 
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2024-17-06
The poison won’t affect them if they have better datasets so why does it matter?  The 404s were caused by Reddit text encoding. They around be fixed now 
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2024-17-06
No problem. There’s a [ton of research in this doc if you’re interested ](https://docs.google.com/document/d/15myK_6eTxEPuKnDi5krjBM_0jrv3GELs8TGmqOYBvug/edit)
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2024-17-06
Do you go to sites though? I can't remember the last time I was like "I need to replace my lawnmower blade, I'm going to go to chuckslawnmowerexperts.org and see what chuck has to say about the various offerings before clicking an affiliate link back to Amazon to buy it." - that type of web browsing behavior is already dead. You could make 1000 blogs and get tens of views and next to no money; I know, I was a blogger 10 years ago - it's already dead.
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2024-17-06
“As soon as it works, no one calls it AI anymore.” I don’t remember which computer researcher said it, but this is the quote that always comes to mind for me. A calculator is AI. Ten years ago (even five) ChatGPT would be considered mind-blowing, unambiguous “AI”, even with an acknowledgment of how little it gets correct. The issue is the marketing and the runaway hype train. Investors and investor-seekers are obsessed with selling this generation of AI as AGI, which it is extremely far from.
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2024-17-06
[He may not be able to but researchers have](https://docs.google.com/document/d/15myK_6eTxEPuKnDi5krjBM_0jrv3GELs8TGmqOYBvug/edit#heading=h.mx360pwg02ix )
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2024-17-06
Wow you’re stupid 
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2024-17-06
“They dook er jerbs”
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2024-17-06
If you read the doc, you’d know it can do a lot actually. There’s an entire section dedicated to it 
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2024-17-06
Yeah it's like interactive googling where someone else already went through and gathered all the information.
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2024-17-06
an Oracle basically.
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2024-17-06
Exactly, it is damn near useless for actual work so far on the end user side. It makes up things and even creates fake sources and urls that look real but are bull. It's an impressive step but not ready for real work.
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2024-17-06
> Since the industry will have a significant surplus of graphic designers, the labor pool will be oversaturated. This will lead to desperation where graphic designers will take less and less just to have a job. So then wages across the industry will tank. > > This is a serious problem that we will see within the coming years, if not sooner. It is happening right now. My wife is a graphic designer with 20 years experience.
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2024-17-06
Let it shitpost once in a while lmao!
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2024-17-06
I used it to write a decoder for Wireshark by describing the format of the messages in a very verbose fashion in English. The resulting lua file worked for the most part however there was a small big. I was able to fix it up in the end but the code itself that it wrote was not something I'd consider written well. It worked for what I needed though and I never really had to learn Lua or how to write Wireshark plug-ins. I'll use it more for these one off things or simple script able tasks but it's got a long time to go if you want it to write a full blown application
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2024-17-06
Or so a designer would lead you to believe. If you like it, and 10 other people you ask like it, then so does the majority of your customers.
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2024-17-06
Or if you train it on a lot of your previous writing, otherwise what it produces is usually total generic or cringy garbage
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2024-17-06
so wtf is a "online digital freelancer"
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2024-17-06
It basically hands you an outline for what to say. I work for someone who used it to write an email, and I basically had to tell them they sent out a piece of shit to their clients because they’re lazy.
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2024-17-06
As your comment requested, my life story began when I was 0. Being 0 I have no memory of what happened, but I am sure it happened because other people which say they were around when it happened, say it happened. After that happened, I began memories, I am not really sure when, but I remember some things better than others. After that I started to have bad memories, I remember those quiet clearly. It took a long time to have good memories, but good memories eventually came, if I wanted them to come or not. Then I had so many memories, that I could not remember them all. That is why I wrote this recipe book. Step 1: Learn to cook. Step 2: Learn to Cook well. Step 3: Cooking is an art. Step 4: File insurance claim on house, reason Kitchen fire. Step 5: Repeat step 1.
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2024-17-06
This technically isn't true because of the famous case where a monkey took a selfie. The image couldn't be copyrighted by the artist that gave it the camera because he wasn't the one that made the image, and so the copyrights couldn't be granted to him. It has to be made by a human in order to be copyrightable
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2024-17-06
Why are you using chatGPT for that? use Gemini or Bing that are directly connected to the internet.
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2024-17-06
Exactly this. Google can’t do my work and neither can Chat, but my word, they are certainly great tools for expediting tasks.
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2024-17-06
that's copywriting a photo. not trademarking a logo
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2024-17-06
I don't like this because the outputs from the AI are entirely reliant on the images that are fed into it. To me, this is as ethical as copying an artists work and selling it without their permission, and it shouldn't be allowed. It isn't a direct copy, but its still plagiarism. People shouldn't have the rights to sell other people's creativity and work, only their own. This is like comissioning an artist in really specific terms, and the comissioner then thinks they're the creative because of how specific they were with the words they gave the artist that actually made the image.
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2024-17-06
My sister used it and got a 98 % in advanced psych :( she's becoming a nurse
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2024-17-06
FYI, it’s most likely just editing the names of the sources. So it double lied to you. I use ChatGPT all the time to find sources. Look up the sources and whatever is similar is most likely where the content came from. Read through those sources and them you have great articles to use.
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2024-17-06
If you give a human a lobotomy, they'll be less able to perform specific tasks. Does that mean they were never had intelligence or learned? The entire "shape" of an LLM is integral to how it functions. You can't mix around a brain and expect it to function as intended. How is that an argument lmao
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2024-17-06
Not really AIs fault. It is a tool. Soceity chooses what to do with our bountiful resources and advanced technology. Spend billions on war and 4x over-paying for healthcare was the choice. Helping poor people with useless skills is not the goal of the rulung class. 
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2024-17-06
Yeah, it's not great for research. I heard a lawyer got disbarred for presenting ChatGPT information as legal precedence. The judge was not amused to hear that the cases the lawyer was using as his references were not real and were invented by ChatGPT.
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2024-17-06
A computer can do that. But an LLM is designed to make a computer function like a human. The output of an LLM is not algorithmic. It's based on probabilities. It's fuzzy logic. An LLM is just spitting out the next most likely word in a series. For example if leave a word out and there or a letr yu cn probbly prdct wt I mnt to say. That's what a LLM does. And as a human, in order to know how many words are in this sentence, you can't simply glance at it. You have to go back and cound them one by one, I don't even know how many I wrote at this point, unless I go back and count them. And I, a human, could still accidentally count them wrong!
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2024-18-06
chatGpt which is trained/being trained on freely available material on internet will soon eat its own crap as internet gets polluted with gpt generated garbage . It will be interesting to see all this ai hype get evaporated quickly as it is generated.
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2024-18-06
That's precisely what I was describing when I talked about implementing an internal monologue like people have. You'd likely need to have an invisible second AI checking the output of the first, doing a sanity check on it. You'd tell it to check the output of the first model to make sure it's correct. You might even have the two models communicate back and forth, trying to come up with concensus. And then a third model is the one which outputs what the two agreed upon. Kinda like human brain has two hemipsheres and the lizard brain below them.
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2024-18-06
> The part Right, so when you said "completely" you meant "partly" and by "the part" you mean the part **I didn't even say.** Why don't you go ahead and quote me on that? I only talked about poisoning the internet data leading to AI inbreeding. Which you only ever agreed with. Cool. I would also argue you didn't prove it has no negative effect on training AI whatsoever., but you seem to want to shotgun a huge pile of hours of reading material and only provide a vague summary for most of them, probably written by yourself, and call it a day. Are they peer-reviewed? Are they theoretical, or proven practical? The fact that all that research exists is proof in itself that the AI inbreeding problem negatively affected AI training. I also doubt any of those resulted in 100% eliminated the fact that by far the most vastly available source of human written text is tainted. Did any of them conclude that?
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2024-18-06
All of the above. There’s more than one study  They found that synthetic data is effective in improving models and that mixing synthetic data with real data prevents model collapse 
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Apple looks rotten.
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2024-16-06
Sure. A single person not having the skill to negotiate is one thing. Implying that *no women* can effectively negotiate and that's the reason why men are paid more is... well, it sure is something. Hope you're not involved in hiring or merit increases because otherwise your employer is likely looking at a lawsuit, too.
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2024-16-06
If a company like Apple which is progressive, embraces DEI, keeps every step carefully, can be sued and won against…
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2024-16-06
Company hadn’t used slave labour. Their contractors had subcontracted pieces which then used slave labour. For a supply chain as big as Apple’s it’s really difficult to verify every aspect of 2nd tier contractors.
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2024-16-06
Once, I discovered that a group of managers were spending more money than I made in a year to go to the Masters. It was very disheartening.
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2024-16-06
Are you so dumb that the words pay band triggered you?
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2024-16-06
So Apple uses slave labor via contractors and are too lazy to bother to check. Billions,..they have billions in profits. They need to grow some morals and use some of that cash to better monitor their contractors and their subs. They simply don’t care
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2024-16-06
Ist delusional to assume that 2 people Must be paid the same amount just because they do the same work.  The 2 having Opposing genders might indicate sexism, but its far from the only reason for it. 
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2024-16-06
I’ve had managers who would abuse the pool of money for raises. He would split it to how he wanted and not based on performance. Of course his lazy friends worked there and they had to get high raises first. Then he would excuse it as I have to give everyone a fair raise. I quit that same year. Screw all that. If there is room for people to abuse a system they will.
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2024-16-06
We’ve done a thorough internal investigation of ourselves, and come to the conclusion that we didn’t do anything wrong. Case closed.
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2024-16-06
It’s definitely a overreaction
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2024-16-06
Not that surprising tbh, this is a reddit tech worker subforum, if anyone is too introverted to boost about their work Quality its the people in this sub.    The Statement would probably get upvoted in /r/sales or /r/biglaw
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2024-16-06
It’s been repeatedly shown that men and women both negotiate. It’s just that they negotiate for different things. Men for more salary (largely in part due to societal pressures for them to be money makers) but with worse work-life balance and women for better work-life accommodations (again largely in part due to societal pressures) but with lower earnings.
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2024-16-06
She said what triggered this whole thing is that she saw a male coworker’s W2 where he was being paid $10k more than her. That doesn’t strike me as evidence of a pay gap - such a small difference could come down to so many different factors including when they were hired, how they negotiated, etc.
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2024-16-06
Thanks. I was getting downvoted, but there were no explanations. I'd love to hear why someone thinks PTSD was an appropriate reaction.
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2024-16-06
>I'm in middle management and have been for a while and I've seen my peers brag about lowballing offers or lowballing merit increases by a couple thousand as if they personally saved money when it makes no difference at all. That's really weird behavior. It ought to be, and often is, direct managers who are pushing for increases for their most valuable employees for morale and retention, and it's Finance and HR that are fighting back. Why would middle management negotiate against themselves?
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2024-16-06
God damn this is a toxic comments section wow
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2024-16-06
Newsflash. It isn’t. It’s the P&L holder who is rated based on their departments performance and that’s usually a VP or above. Middle managers get no bonus based on the wages (or lack thereof) of their direct employees. They do get yelled at if expenses are too high. But no reward for micromanaging employee spending.
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2024-16-06
Read the article and assumed the point saying it wasn't filed was an error because the remaining points and meaning of his post are valid. It's an allegation that is being presented and discussed on here as fact. Including a clickbait title that's completely different than the one in the article. So spare the sanctimony because if your accusing me of pushing a narrative, please tell me what narrative that is. That we not present allegations as fact? That we not treat billion dollar corporations like local sports clubs? Which is it?
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2024-16-06
The studies also show women make.less for the same quality of work esp in dev work.... Shut up
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2024-16-06
During my time at Apple I saw multiple women come back from maternity leave to find that their jobs were just gone or that they’d been permanently replaced or otherwise sidelined, often by the person brought in to cover for them. Apple would hand them a different job elsewhere in the org or company and blame a reorganization. If you sue without going to the press they often would settle quickly to keep things quiet.
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2024-16-06
Knowing Better did a video on it a while back. Yes it exists, no its not as pronounced as one would think, but it still exists in many cases when accounting for the random bullshit people bring up to try and disprove it.
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2024-16-06
Oh, shit! For real?! Well, that changes everything. Filing a lawsuit means that the allegations are definitely factual, right? Case closed.
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2024-16-06
> just like men Hey genius since you missed it the first three times, u/great_whitehope the point is that *the exact same thing* that gets **men promoted** gets women penalized. What’s the word for when a decision is made **entirely** on the basis of sex?
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2024-16-06
They’ve been filing supplier reports for some time now and are pretty transparent about their efforts here. You seem to not know what you’re talking about and just want to accuse a giant company of not caring because it’s in vogue to do so.
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Nah, I understand that.  I still come to the conclusion that you should push forward bold and aggressive.  The way I see it: Stop speaking up -> 100% overlooked.  Speak up -> might get what you want, might be stopped by forces outside of your control e.g. racism, sexism, ageism.  Looking at that matrix it’s still better in virtually every situation to speak up strongly, even if some will unfairly judge you.  It’s not a catch-22 if there is a clear indication which direction can benefit you. It still is obviously a shitty situation, but I never said anything else. 
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2024-16-06
Thats more on an individual level than some systemic issue though. The common "0.7 for every 1" was never real
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2024-16-06
Sexism?
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2024-16-06
Collectively? Sounds like a bargain.
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2024-16-06
Commenter pretended it wasn't filed, it was
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2024-16-06
It’s been repeatedly shown that *when men listen*, that’s *what they translate women into saying*. Seriously the number of instances where, “you don’t need that raise, you’re just going to marry some man,” or “that’s money that could be going to a husband”…
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2024-16-06
It’s often determined by how much leverage you had when you were hired. And that could be dependent on so many external factors.
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2024-17-06
Except, there’s a pattern with one gender specifically
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2024-17-06
"quantum-mechanic Lawsuits can say anything they want, even without evidence"  https://www.reddit.com/r/business/comments/1dh70w9/apple_punishes_women_for_same_behaviors_that_get/    It might be true. But there was similar thing in Google. It turned out men were underpaid.  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/technology/google-gender-pay-gap.html
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2024-17-06
So it’s easy to do (according to your work experience), and yet nobody does it.
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2024-17-06
Well Apple stores have “Genius Bars”, I’d imagine he was a lead there.
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>You can say that definitively? Why would I have said "probably not" if I thought this was definitive? No, I can't, but the evidence is compelling, don't you think? >Have you heard of people talking about "therapy speak" in a way that's toxic? Do you want to make a point? >People are absolutely allowed to pick their own priorities. So what THE ACTUAL FUCK do you have to say about the women who matter in this thread, who work at Apple, at the same job, who want more pay, WHO ARE MAKING LESS THAN THEIR COLLEAGUES? I say they should be able to prioritise pay? I'm not sure what you're getting angry about.
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2024-17-06
Thats so disheartening to hear. Bro tech playing the 'we support diversity and women' card then pulling this shit. Hope you're doing well wherever you are
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2024-17-06
What do you mean by “place”? Apple or this sub Reddit?
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2024-18-06
I would love to be proven wrong, but I have never heard of or seen this internal site. Feel free to DM me as I would love to see this info.
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finally some remote job openings
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2024-16-06
😂 I can literally hear this
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India itself is low cost, where are the shifting the jobs to? Poland? Vietnam or Malaysia?
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2024-16-06
Argentina, Brazil and other South American countries are the new low cost Off-Shore hot spots in tech
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Good riddance, I think regular “jobs” are slowly disappearing. Companies now hire fewer experts on a contract basis. I know for a fact atleast in fintech, in the US. Good for the employer and the employee.
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2024-16-06
That’s how a lot of restructuring works. You let affected people find jobs and hiring some while letting others go. But if they wanted to cut costs, the internal hiring is frozen too. There could be some reqs but not nearly enough to retain significant number of the employees.
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2024-16-06
I’m surprised you’re upvoted. Whenever I point out genuinely racist comments it’s just downvoted.
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India is quickly moving away from low cost, especially for good talent.
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2024-16-06
Here have my downvote you knight
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2024-16-06
Yep, nearshoring is the term being thrown around. Cheaper, same time zones, less culture disconnect.
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2024-16-06
Maybe you shouldn't jump to conclusions based on no information at all...
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2024-16-06
Exactly why the kumbaya geopolitics of the last 50 years is going down the toilet fast (a toilet is a device with plumbing ppl use to sanitarily do their business inside btw)
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2024-16-06
The Indian youth start calling my phone 348491 times a day from spoofed numbers?
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2024-16-06
You don't know shit. Brazil is way more expensive than India, and Argentina is also a bit more expensive. A good dev in those countries is not a whole lot cheaper than the US, and you pay for good quality, not volume or savings.
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2024-16-06
Well that requires racists to learn anything about South America that isn't soccer.
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Forgot 2 “please”’s in there
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I don’t get it, is this a reference to something?
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Website is unreadable on mobile.
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