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This is, to put it bluntly: fucking bullshit. Switching to GIMP. Not just saying this. This is spooky new shit. It would be like MS Word monitoring what we write to spy for anti-establishment rhetoric. Adobe has crossed a line, and the fact that they thought for a second that it would be ok makes me viscerally dislike them as a company.
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2024-06-06
Fucking champions of the Internet out there making good quality software with no bullshit.
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2024-06-06
Donating now.
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2024-06-06
Social standards doesn't imply objective rules, its another word for morality. Its your personal standards for interacting the with others. Read the examples. > Thank you for demonstrating the difference between actually understanding something and trying to score points by regurgitating stuff you read but don't get. Right back at you.
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2024-06-06
So spyware then?
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2024-06-06
Just stop using Adobe. They used to have a great product that did something better than anyone else. Now they're making sure people have no desire to use their products ever again.
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2024-06-06
easier said than done, the brushes i use are all ABR and dont work with it
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2024-06-06
I just opted out of Content Analysis, but before I did I opened up my network statistics so I could see if Photoshop was sending data out, and it's not good. Every brush stroke and lasso movement was generating data spikes that stopped when I paused work. It seems they're tracking our cursor movements. Once I opted out though, the outgoing data stopped, so that's something.
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2024-06-06
It's a miracle that Blender has good UX now after being unwieldy for its whole life before.
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2024-06-06
> the death of the internet. China and russia have functioning internet. /s
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2024-06-06
Calm down, you maniac
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2024-06-06
Looks like they're finally cashing in on their monopoly so they can steal everybody's work for their AI.
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2024-06-06
Adobe is playing with fire. Photoshop was never originally designed to be drawing software but artists have adapted and figured out how to use Photoshop for digital drawing purposes. But it has never been its intended purpose. This is why other applications and other programs that are specific to drawing and digital art. This just seems like a move that will push more artists to exclusively use these apps and programs. Especially since it is clearer than day that this terms of service update is purely to train AI art.
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2024-06-06
I love GPLv3 for stuff like this. Guy at the top went rogue? Easy, here's a rebranded fork that's got the same features, plus stuff we wanted to add but couldn't due to interference.
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2024-06-06
Can you define what content moderation and OTHER purposes mean? Adobe is a software company, not he publishing or content editing corporation. Just because people save their content on Adobe servers, but they pay for it, it's not free, same thing for using the applications they are paying Adobe for using their products. Adobe does not have the right to look at the content that users are saving or editing in their personal accounts it should be digitally encrypted.
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2024-06-06
I mean, they were pirated heavily because they were freaking expensive. Now, they're going to be pirated heavily because they're freaking expensive, AND they're freaking *expensive*.
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2024-06-06
Depending on lawyer some lawyers will be happy to take your case if they feel they will win only time you had to pay that kind of money when you have very high chance of losing and the lawyers already know they will not get a penny.
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2024-06-06
I don’t have that knowledge, but What I’ll do, is point out the [DHS Adobe contract runs out in July.](https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/adobe_dhs-gov_8-7-20.pdf)
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2024-07-06
This is insane. Adobe, wtf.
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2024-07-06
And that just makes me glad I never went with a smart TV.
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2024-07-06
The only reason I still hold on to adobe is for lightroom classic.
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2024-07-06
bet you they are training an AI with all the data fuck adobe, I switched to serif's "Affinity" suite. works great, offers PERPETUAL LICENSING, and a multi device license. haven't come across anything that I needed adobe for after making the switch.
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2024-07-06
> but sadly generative fill isn't working with the pirated copy Oh no! Anyway
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2024-07-06
Fyi, you can easily permanently block access to those servers, and then the software will give up trying and function without them. Even works for the most recent but one versions of ps and ai. Adobe are not getting one more penny out of me.
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2024-07-06
You can skin GIMP with a Photoshop GUI?? Sign me up. I don't use photo editing software anywhere near enough to motivate me enough to unlearn Photoshop and try to learn how gimp handles stuff. I've tried many many times. Skinning it would be a blessing for me.
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2024-07-06
I've turned off all automatic updates for most things. I always think back to when I had my iPod touch and a reading app on it. Had the settings the way I liked, the aesthetic the way I liked, and was happy with it. Then the app updated and all the options I'd changed were removed. The aesthetic changed from wood to some ugly modern garbage. I lost several several books. After that I started turning off updates and only do them if absolutely necessary. If the app or hardware works the way I like and has no issues then I have no reason to update and risk unnecessary changes.
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2024-07-06
> doesn’t have a dedicated team of designers building good UI / UX adobe already did that for them, but somehow gimp still sucks ass to use
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2024-07-06
I believe that you actually don't need to be connected to the internet, well at least it will still work if you disconnect from the net after it's loaded. I'm not sure if you can save the webpage and work from a local copy.
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2024-07-06
GameStop is even hotter!
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2024-07-06
Using Win 11 Pro and Photoshop CS2 installed just fine on it.
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2024-07-06
It's gateway art lmao
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2024-07-06
Let me guess, this is how Adobe is going to train its AI model?
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2024-07-06
Why tf would you want to be a propaganda artist?
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2024-07-06
Always online connected, watching you work. not just cloud storage.
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2024-07-06
The only problem with that approach is security, for devices that must be connected to the internet. But of course anything you can disconnect has the ultimate in security.
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2024-07-06
Knock on wood I've yet to have any issues. Even if I did I have very little to my name worth anything so would be more trouble than worth. Hell, someone may take pity and give me money instead.
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2024-07-06
You can just fireball block their ass
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2024-07-06
Right? It's what allowed things like "The email the email what what the email" to exist! Haha.
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2024-07-06
Our cyber security and legal teams at my last engineering firm are probably on fire right now. The total disregard for NDAs here is astounding. I’m sure they’re already working on a complete enterprise wide replacement option.
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2024-07-06
I've used Gimp before. Not a big photoshop person but I have the real one at work and I'd say they're pretty similar 😊
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2024-07-06
Let me know what it is when you do 😅
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2024-07-06
They are owned by a larger corporation that all but has a monopoly in several areas of the market. They just need to raise prices every year and blame it kn inflation.
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2024-07-06
No longer your own intellectual property
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2024-07-06
By "lube" I suspect you mean sand.
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2024-07-06
The holy Trinity
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2024-07-06
> If you don't like it, don't use it. Please don't even try to pretend that that's the official attitude of the open sores people. It's very much an evangelizing movement that acts like it is producing generally usable software.
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2024-07-06
Legal compliance too - Adobe are contributing to all works that use AI (some uses might be less legal than others or the AI made them illegal when they were borderline before)
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2024-07-06
Corel STILL EXISTS!??!?!!?!
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2024-07-06
Whats with all Big Tech trying to snoop on us 24/7? The cynic in me says AI training. The conspiracist in me says secret laws.
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2024-07-06
To Affinity we go then. It's about time
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2024-07-06
Technically correct, the best kind of correct.
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2024-07-06
Living in the modern world is being forced to play hundreds of tedious minigames just to get by.
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I don't think so, I think we're going to be seeing a wave of articles like this from various services. They'll be looking to present a universally "positive" reason for adopting AI technology, and what better way to do that while increasing surveillance and data harvesting *and* earning PR brownie points while doing it than to roll out the good ol' "think of the children" excuse that most people will blindly agree with? It wasn't too long ago that some european countries wanted to prevent people from using the internet unless their device had government software scanning its file system in real time and reporting suspicious pictures and videos to police. It flopped at the time, but I am definitely expecting the idea to make a comeback now it's more feasible with AI.
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2024-07-06
This is absolutely total bullshit and everyone should either boycott or pirate adobe.
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2024-07-06
Let's face it, for all the "let's move away from Adobe" rants and raves here, we all know no one is moving away. Adobe apps are just too good and tightly integrated into the workflow pipeline. And using multiple substitute apps to replace one of those adobe apps just mean more costs and more points of failure. People trying to move to GIMP, Affinity etc and where are they now? Lol Adobe's app, especially Photoshop, has gotten so good with recent AI updates that the second next best (Affinity Photo?) isn't anywhere close.
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2024-07-06
you know, they need feed their AI with real-time data, you know where all that data will come from, you know.. then you also know who is gonna pay for new AI features, you know... And also you know who is gonna be fired after having payed with money, intelectual work and time, you know...
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2024-07-06
I just ditched my Adobe Cloud subscription after 9 loyal years. I’m scared. ALL of my workflows are based on Adobe apps. However, it feels smarter to focus on creative fundamentals while learning to navigate new toolsets in DaVinci, Gimp, Blender, RAW Therapy, OBS and Touchdesiger. Anyone else make a similar switch?
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2024-07-06
Yeah I was going to say legislature makes things illegal not the other way around
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2024-07-06
This is textbook gaslighting. Just to be clear: are you claiming the open sores movement is *not* actively trying to get people to switch from professional software to their solutions under the premise that they're feasible alternatives?
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2024-07-06
You've missed the point. Does it matter if it's named after a character from a film regardless of whether a person is anal enough or not to know that? Also I don't think a gimp is a piece of gear. I think it's a person playing a role that wears a specific outfit. Like doctor or maid.
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2024-07-06
Umm. Clearly they want to train your content for their AI but I suppose only in the "cloud storage" or something? I can't see how they will access manually or automated your data outside the cloud. I have been Substance Designer/Painter customer for around 5 years and Photoshop for more than I can think (cause jobs requirements) right now... I think they will lose A LOT of customers if they don't clarify this. I have no problem if I upload my data to internet like IG/FB or whatever and end trained cause it's on the TOS and I know what happens with EVERYTHING uploaded to the net... but not uploaded data? In the case they can go outside the cloud storage data and can "review", "delete", "license" and "train" I will be using Krita (more often I mean) and Affinity Designer. For Substance Designer/Painter probably "sail the seas" option.
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2024-09-06
Cut off all internet access to those apps through your firewall settings: had both these for about a year already without detection
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2024-09-06
Affinity just dropped pricing because of this. I grabbed Affinity Photo 2 for Mac&ipad for under $50. Reg is $90/$20 for them. I know there is free software, but I liked the UI and having 1 program to handle RAW and edits.
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2024-10-06
I highly encourage to pirate Adobe products if you need to use them. In this particular situation this is not illegal, their actions are.
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2024-10-06
Linearity is now offering a deal for switchers! [https://x.com/linearityhq/status/1800160104521900265](https://x.com/linearityhq/status/1800160104521900265)
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2024-10-06
I get that. I also get that things can change. Not to mention, out of all the things you can buy off steam, Krita can easily be acquired through other channels. Download and donate from Krita's [homepage](https://krita.org/en/) is a valid option.
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2024-11-06
I wonder how many subscriptions would need to be cancelled for Adobe to start to see some cracks in its foundations and lose its footing.
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2024-11-06
Sail the high sea, you sre welcome here, pirating Adobe is morally right.
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2024-11-06
Sail the high sea, you sre welcome here, pirating Adobe is morally right.
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2024-11-06
Been using Krita for a while now, it's excellent software. Best for drawing, does a good job editing photos, but certainly not the *best* photo editor.
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Zoom is also the company that started the RTO movement by declaring that remote work does not work. Zoom: We want to be the leading remote work platform for AI to meet AI. Zoom: it’s got electrolytes
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This weapon-ization of free speech + Internet has got to be solved/resolved in better ways (no idea), feels like fact checking, education, and taking down some bot nets are often too little/too late.
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2024-06-06
Yeah..no.. That's not how human society works. Have you ever wondered what would happen if everyone thought for themselves Vs everyone follows what someone thinks? Both of those things are fucking awful. So let's do it this way: if you believe someone, who is wrong - it's on you. There. Fixed.
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AI is bullshit.
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Sure buddy, sure... 🤡
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I remember when we used real people to research cosmic explosions. Alas, I guess so-called “NASA” decided it was “unethical” to hurl people into supernovas. The political-correctness crusaders strike again!
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Honestly, now: How is the whole fediverse thingy going?
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I left Insta 2 years ago, but miss many of the artists I used to follow (and purchase from). Good to see a new home that is safe from AI, at least til google buys them or pour $$$ in their pockets.
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2024-06-06
Hrmm i dont think its plagiarism if it learns the style. Dont hate the player hate the game.
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2024-06-06
Fair points 😔
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2024-06-06
Does anyone know Deviant Arts position on this? I didn’t leave much there and last I saw it was going heavy towards the furry/fat side
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2024-07-06
All Online artwork is harvest-able. Maybe not as straight forward as on their own platform, but let’s say they pay for data and the site who hosts data says “How much we talking?”. Or they make their own web scraper and just go down the list of sites?
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2024-07-06
Ah, that glaze. Afaik it has nightshade level of efficiency (zero)
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I will take them all at once and become immortal and probably gain superpowers. Checkmate, Satan!
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I thought quantum computing was gonna be the tech headlining this research. I wonder which is actually more useful, or what the pros/cons of each are
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