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ChogyDan
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yeah, I feel ya. I like Ubuntu, that's what I'm comfortable with. But for my life circumstances right now, I have to give fedora a go...
2017-07-15
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ducasse
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ChogyDan: what old stuff? ubuntu no longer uses mir or upstart going forward.
2017-07-15
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ChogyDan
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ducasse, afaik, they aren't switching to wayland right away. And I think I need to be bleeding edge right now
2017-07-15
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ducasse
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ChogyDan: they aren't making wayland *default* right now, for good reasons.
2017-07-15
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BluesKaj
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if you have a nvidia gpu then wayland is unsupported
2017-07-15
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immu
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status of Wayland in 17.10 is pending , may be included or may not be, we have to wait and see ChogyDan
2017-07-15
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immu
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i am on Nvidia :) may be i would need to switch to novooo to avoid any hipucps
2017-07-15
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immu
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hipcups
2017-07-15
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ducasse
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immu: it will be included, it's already been for a while. it just might not be default.
2017-07-15
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immu
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i am on 17.04 and on when i was on 17.10 daily build i couldn't log into a wayland session
2017-07-15
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immu
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lets see, what they would finally settle on. as they have 9 more months to decide for 18.04 which is a LTS release ducasse
2017-07-15
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DJones
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ChogyDan: I would say that Ubuntu is designed to be used on a day to day basis. It wont be bleeding edge and I woudn#'t like to recommend an alternative, thats probably best asked in ##linux
2017-07-15
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immu
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even fedora isn't bleeding edge?
2017-07-15
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glitsj16
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wayland + nvidia blob is a no-go on fedora too, that's not a distro problem but an upstream one
2017-07-15
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ducasse
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immu: i've been running wayland since at least 16.10, there's no question it will be there. and yes, i know what releases are lts and not.
2017-07-15
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=== gr33n7007h is now known as al2o3-cr
2017-07-15
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ChogyDan
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DJones, thanks.
2017-07-15
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ducasse
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ChogyDan: also, think about whether you *need* 'bleeding edge', or have just decided that latest version number equals better.
2017-07-15
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immu
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how come you running on wayland session on ubuntu? maybe you know to much more then me :) ducasse
2017-07-15
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BluesKaj
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there's too much "the latest is greatest" kool-ade in these support chats :-)
2017-07-15
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immu
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ChogyDan, why do you need to be on bleeding edge
2017-07-15
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immu
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even i am thinking of settling in on a LTS release :)
2017-07-15
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immu
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Ubuntu has huge numbers of users, its well know, and supported and best most things works, and you don't have to upgrade if you don't want to ChogyDan
2017-07-15
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immu
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latest is not always greatest :)
2017-07-15
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immu
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sometimes we have to show the reason why to new and returning users to linux land BluesKaj
2017-07-15
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BluesKaj
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immu, they usually find out soon enough if they don't heed the warnings
2017-07-15
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immu
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you don't want to end up like a arch users always checking if a update is available or not
2017-07-15
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immu
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mental peace is more important :)
2017-07-15
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immu
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ChogyDan, you can look at various YouTube videos and save your self the pain of installing a Os
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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hi, I recently upgraded my system (ubuntu 14.04 kde) and now network manager applet is gone. I can't connect to the internet. Need help please
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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sorry I updated my system*
2017-07-15
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glitsj16
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adroit_machine: gone meaning uninstalled or not visible?
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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glitsj16: I think it is uninstalled
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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It is definetly uninstalled by itself
2017-07-15
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glitsj16
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adroit_machine: I'm unfamiliar with KDE, but that seems very odd.. can you install it?
2017-07-15
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ChogyDan
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adroit_machine, my skills are rusty, but I think you can run sudo service network-manager restart or something like that. Someone should confirm.
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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ChogyDan: glitsj16 I can't connect to the internet without that app. How am I supposed to run the commands without internet?
2017-07-15
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ChogyDan
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immu, I'm actually looking to do some development, so I'm also looking for a project to work on. I will likely use Ubuntu if I can find a project to work on
2017-07-15
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ioria
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adroit_machine, check if NM is running, ps -A | grep NetworkManager or sudo service network-manager status
2017-07-15
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glitsj16
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adroit_machine: how are you writing to us now? chroot in from a live ISO and see what your options are
2017-07-15
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ChogyDan
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glitsj16, its on the command line or a terminal. Also, follow what ioria is saying
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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just a sec ioria
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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glitsj16: i'm on a different computer
2017-07-15
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ioria
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adroit_machine, the applet on ubuntu (idk kde) is nm-applet that you can run from terminal
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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ioria: I tried your command but it shows nothing
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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I tried ps-A | NetworkManager but it is showing blank
2017-07-15
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ioria
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adroit_machine, so it's not running i assume, sudo service network-manager restart
2017-07-15
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ducasse
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adroit_machine: on later kde it is 'plasma-nm'. unsure about 14.04
2017-07-15
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glitsj16
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ChogyDan: sure, but if nm-applet isn't there, NM would likely be missing other critical parts
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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ioria: the output is : network-manager stop/waiting
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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glitsj16: nm-applet is not there
2017-07-15
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ioria
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adroit_machine, paste sudo service network-manager status
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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glitsj16: it uninstalled itself after the system update
2017-07-15
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glitsj16
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adroit_machine: it might have another name in KDE
2017-07-15
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ioria
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adroit_machine, ho really ?
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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ioria: i can't paste since i'm on a different computer i can type though
2017-07-15
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ducasse
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adroit_machine: what about plasma-nm?
2017-07-15
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ioria
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adroit_machine, reinstall it then
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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what do i reinstall? ioria?
2017-07-15
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ioria
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nm
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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ioria: the output of sudo service network-manager is : network manager: unrecognized service
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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please help
2017-07-15
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ioria
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adroit_machine, what you mean with 't uninstalled itself after the system update' ?
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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ioria: I updated my system but that removed the network manager app
2017-07-15
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ioria
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adroit_machine, dpkg -l network-manager what it says ?
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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just a sec, ioria
2017-07-15
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ioria
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adroit_machine, btw, should be still in the cache, so you should be able to reinstall it also without connection
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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ioria: it says; Desired =Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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how do i reinstall it, ioria?
2017-07-15
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ioria
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adroit_machine, we need the rest of the output
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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it is a long file,I will type the tail of it
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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ioria: ^
2017-07-15
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ioria
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adroit_machine, below 'Name Version Architecture Description' string
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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rc network-manager 0.9.8.80ubuntu amd64 network management framework
2017-07-15
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ioria
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adroit_machine, oh, yeah removed
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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how do i fix that, ioria?
2017-07-15
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ioria
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adroit_machine, try sudo apt install network-manager
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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just a sec
2017-07-15
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Cobrax
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What are proprietary MP3 codecs and so on?
2017-07-15
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Cobrax
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how do they run? are they proprietary binary blobs or.. what?
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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ioria: it says the following packages have unmet dependencies : network manager: depend: libnl -3-200 (>=3.2.7) but it is not going to be installed
2017-07-15
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ioria
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adroit_machine, that's another kind of problem ...
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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and some 3 lines below it also saying unmet dependencies
2017-07-15
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ioria
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adroit_machine, so what have you done lately ?
2017-07-15
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ChogyDan
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q: anyone suggest any projects I could participate in in Ubuntu, potentially as a developer? Or any suggestions of how I could explore this question like on a website, or a different than #ubuntu irc channel?
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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I haven't touched any system files. I only click on install updates
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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ioria: ^
2017-07-15
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ChogyDan
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adroit_machine, can you connect to the ethernet via wire?
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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i don't have ethernet wire. I just have a wifi and 3G usb dongle
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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ChogyDan: ^
2017-07-15
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EriC^^
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what's up adroit_machine ?
2017-07-15
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ioria
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adroit_machine, apt-cache policy network-manager and paste the line under 'Version table: '
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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hii EriC^^
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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just a sec ioria
2017-07-15
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adroit_machine
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ioria: Version table 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7.1 0 500 http://security.ubutu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
2017-07-15
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ducasse
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Cobrax: some of them are simply binaries that use patented code
2017-07-15
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Cobrax
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ducasse, I see, do I need them or are there some FOSS alternatives?
2017-07-15
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ioria
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!info network-manager trusty
2017-07-15
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ubottu
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network-manager (source: network-manager): network management framework (daemon and userspace tools). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7.3 (trusty), package size 481 kB, installed size 1988 kB (Only available for linux-any)
2017-07-15
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ioria
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adroit_machine, apt-cache policy network-manager | grep Installed
2017-07-15
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