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Kursk is about 500km from Moscow. Does Ukraine have missiles that can reach that distance?
A few warning shots into the Russian capital would go a long way towards moving Russian opinion against Putin.
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2024-09-08
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I don't think "controlled shutdown with explosives in a warzone" is a thing, so therefore prefer some caution
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2024-09-08
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When you’re Ukrainian, territory just lets you grab it by the urals.
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2024-09-08
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So like what YNot said, the war is not going to end.
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2024-09-08
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What's in the pipeline? It should be refined enough to flow through the pipes, no? Freight ships (diesel) can run on thick unrefined oil.
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2024-09-08
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Apparently plastic armor and airsoft helmets... since the beginning of the war.
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2024-09-08
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Russia is going to use a nuclear weapon. It just feels like they are going to be forced to use one to save face. Invading a nuclear armed country is riskyyyyyyy, especially when you yourself have no nuclear weapons of your own.
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2024-09-08
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A general mobilization by itself is useless if there's no equipment and logistics to support the troops. Throughout the war Russia hasn't had any issues finding more bodies to throw at the meat grinder, what they have struggled with is equipping them with modern equipment to the point they've had to resort to their WW2 Era stocks. The efficacy of a general mobilization for Russia is blown out of proportion.
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2024-09-08
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go straight for the Kremlin, boys.
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2024-09-08
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There is likely a lot of military equipment stored in the area; since the russians considered it 'safe'. Just finding and destroying it all would be enough icing on the cake to make the trip worth it.
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2024-09-08
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The war ends the moment Russia fucks off out of a sovereign country recognised by the UN *and the Russian Federation*.
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2024-09-08
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I also chuckled at that lmao
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2024-09-08
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It's just a 298.667x ROI. Nothing to see here.
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2024-09-08
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If you're getting counter invaded the plan isn't working.
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2024-09-08
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Thin lines! Anyone that's played HOI4 knows the pain of defending the Russian front.
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2024-09-08
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Remember when Russias own forces marched on them and almost got to the capital, this time it's the guys that won't be backing down
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2024-09-08
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Love this.
If I think back to what we in the West all thought Russia was prior to this war, this is *shocking* to me. It would be like Mexico invading the United States, taking several towns in Texas, and our government not being able to do anything quickly about it. I mean no offense to our friends across the border, but it that’s an absurd scenario.
Hell, I have to wonder if the federal government would even be needed in a situation like that; the Texas guard could probably push them back across the border, and I don’t think it would make much of a difference if we’re fighting a war elsewhere (e.g., Iraq, Afghanistan) at the same time. Jesus Christ, Russia… you had us all convinced you were on our level, but all you have are those useless nukes.
Anyway, sucks for Russia, but they can end this war whenever they please. I’m sure if they leave Ukraine, Ukraine will leave Russia. Until then, I think Ukraine should take and hold as much as they can across the border. Create that buffer zone Putin wants; only do it on *his* side. Laugh in his face when he complains, because Russia deserves this.
The next time Putin talks about “peace,” the Ukrainians can say, “Sure, we’ll leave the lands we’ve taken from you when you leave Crimea and the Donbas region and sign an agreement guaranteeing our border integrity. Otherwise, we’re keeping what we’ve taken.”
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2024-09-08
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I hear you but practically the wars are always waged with a lot of propaganda. Have to think about the people who are isolated on the ground and constantly bombarded with the local news.
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2024-09-08
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Granted, I'm an armchair private, but this whole thing reminds me of the Total War games franchise where the computer regularly has massive armies in the field and next to no garrisons in the cities. It was possible to conquer entire factions in one turn just by having your armies dip around theirs and take on a few lowely town watch units
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2024-09-08
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I heard a historian say that Hitler would be considered one of the greatest leaders of the greater Germanic people if he just stopped after the Anschluss and consolidated the mostly German speaking territory. Instead he's one of the world's most hated because he couldn't stop himself.
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2024-09-08
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Every RTS player knows you risk losing when you send your entire army to attack and you have no D.
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2024-09-08
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I agree with you that Russia should immediately give back all the territories that they took (including Crimea of course), and pay reparations for bombing civilians and civilian infrastructures pretty much daily.
I couldn't agree more!
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2024-09-08
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I think Ukraine learned this lesson last year. Granted, an offensive in that area was always going to be tough but they never shut up about it.
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2024-09-08
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I’m curious as what they are planning to do here. Is it a diversion or they had planned for secure supply lines to hold positions long term.
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2024-09-08
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Straight to Moscow it is, slava Ukraini!
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2024-09-08
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Um bum bimbum bam yim yim yim-yim yim
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2024-09-08
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Seems like now might be a good time for some of the separatist regions of Russia to make some noise.
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2024-09-08
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Agreed and this is probably especially true for older people.
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2024-09-08
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the funny thing is Prigozhin almost literally did that
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2024-09-08
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“Ukranian troops push deeper into Russia(…)”
Excuse me, that actually spelled as Greater Ukraine
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2024-09-08
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Depends on who you ask and what their spin is.
A far right sweep was predicted, which did not happen, but they gained significant power.
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2024-09-08
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but they're going to have take resources away from the Ukrainian lines in order to deal with this
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2024-09-08
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I hope they manage to secure some nukes for Ukraine.
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2024-09-08
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I said that?
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2024-09-08
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When he feels like falling out a window
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2024-09-08
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Holding onto it might not be on the table, but wrecking airfields , railways and logistic depots would make life much easier for their compatriots on the other front.
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2024-09-08
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Things will go baltistic very quickly
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2024-09-08
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> Going Leeroy Jenkins isn’t usually a very good strategy
Especially, historically speaking, when it comes to invading Russia.
Word from the historians, Ukrainian troops: invasion is fun and all, but don't try to keep it going through the winter. Return home in the fall and do it again next year.
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2024-09-08
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Omg I didn't realize it's basically blue and yellow heritage written all over it
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2024-09-08
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Substations aren't built directly connected to the reactor, they're entirely separate buildings.
You wouldn't need targeting that accurate to bomb something in an entirely different neighborhood.
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2024-09-08
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Nothing to worry about. Putin will reinforce defenses with the North Koreans
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>They should arrange a referendum!
Only after forcibly deporting the native inhabitants and moving in hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians.
[That's a fair referendum according to Elon](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fe3jJtbXEAEOJL5.png)
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You implied it by comparing Nato at their border to hitler and napoleon.
Nato is at their border because of russian agression. If russia was protectice rather than aggressive people would want to join a union with them. But the opposite is true.
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How do you not know? It's fine if Russia invades their neighbor but as soon as they get a taste of their own medicine, people like you furrow their brow and act all high and mighty. Fuck Russia. They deserve this
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1,000 infantry is a *LOT* these days for mobilization.
It’s a *LOT* of firepower, they usually carry a bag of C4 in each platoon, multiple rockets, mortars and *THOUSANDS* of rounds between just a squad of ~6 dudes.
A single infantry squad about 6 in properly fortified positions should be able to maintain an effective defense against almost ~100 attacking enemies provided they do not have air/artillery support.
The textbook ratio expectation for losses when attacking a fortified position is roughly 40% of your troops historically.
And each platoon is probably being supported by 2-3 tanks and an 2 APC to move troops around.
Tanks and armored carriers can **seriously ruin your day.**
They seem trivial because these days they can be fairly easy to destroy but **if you have no way to blow them up they are really just as terrifying and dangerous as air support.**
Probably even more terrifying because they don’t leave the AO.
**This is likely the beginning of the end for Russia, if the offensive is truly going as well as we all suspect.**
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We now find out why Ukraine never fully destroyed that bridge: it was their plan all along to go around Russian defenses and use that bridge themselves to access Crimea without having to fight the Russians' entrenched lines there.
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Historically, Kiev has had a legitimate claim to "all the Russias" since the late Rurikid dynasty. Plus, there a number of Ukrainian speakers they need to step in and protect from the Neo-Nazi government.
I guess Russia is just going to have to give up some territory to keep the peace.
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2024-09-08
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Funniest shit I ever seen!
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2024-09-08
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And the transformers.
You don't need to damage the power production plant itself at all, if you make it impossible for them to transmit that power out of the plant.
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2024-09-08
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that and leave about 500,000 landmines scattered around everywhere
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2024-09-08
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>more effective recruitment tool by portraying the war as a defensive act of mother Russia
They already pulled that lever. All the young able-bodied men that could flee Russia did back in 2022. They've been sending prisoners to fight.
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Counter argument, albeit a tenuous one:
Russia needs the nuclear genie to be out of the bottle in order for nuclear threats to carry any weight. It's the sort of slippery slope that Russia loves... "we used it on ourselves, we're allowed to use it on Ukraine now, and because you didn't get mad at us the first time because it was inside of Russia, and because we believe Ukraine is Russia and also nazis, you can't be mad that we're now using it on them"
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2024-09-08
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Anabasis 2.0
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2024-09-08
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Todd? Is that you?
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2024-09-08
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The bolded part was proven wrong but it does make for a great speech.
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Just pointing out another POV. Ukraine has been lamenting the lack of timely support from the West for awhile now. And now we hear an offensive into Russia. I wouldn't really believe any of their press statements. This attack could very well have a different objective than total victory and unless you are privy to their intel, we really don't know what the end goal was.
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2024-09-08
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This is the find out stage after 896 days of fukn around.
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Western countries should donate a few amphibious assault ships to Ukraine -- in the Pacific and the North Sea, and force Russia to reinforce its entire coastline.
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Had to log in to respond. I follow Tivaz artillery battalion on telegram, they are the arty/drone guys that did the initial fly-in. As russian army were fleeing Kursk, russian aviation dropped 250 KG FAB bombs on them, thinking it was ukrainians being much deeper than they actually were.
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Excuse me? Japan?
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2024-09-08
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Wonder if they're attempting to seize the nuclear plant.
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2024-09-08
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> This offensive is forcing Russia to decide if they are going to give up the positions they've taken and withdraw significant troops back home to defend themselves. Moving the forces would take several days where they'd be vulnerable to attack
This, Putin, is why you're supposed to have reserve troops standing by behind the front lines, ready to be deployed in response to emergencies and unexpected enemy action. To counter enemy offensives or reinforce the front lines if they're struggling.
But obviously, he's already stretched his army too thin as it is and has nothing in reserve.
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2024-09-08
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My first thought, too.
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2024-09-08
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Look, you misunderstood. I said Putin is an IMPUDENT LITTLE fuck. Anyway, I work with a Ukrainian refugee, he lost his life's work (a building he spent thousands restoring) to the army so they could use it as a base. He his still deeply hurt by this, but understood why he had to let it go absolutely for free. He himself told me this, "I don't understand why they attacked us. We have done nothing to them and we share culture. He is impudent..." That's the best word he could
Think of to describe him. He says the war totally caught him off guard because he believes, maybe he's wrong maybe you know more, that the Ukraine was an ally of Russia and to attack them was selfish and childish. Decide for yourself what you want to believe
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2024-09-08
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I say general sherman your way all the way to moscow, but im not calling the shots.
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2024-09-08
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It'll be a sabaton song before the week end.
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2024-09-08
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I'd imagine right now they are on a time limit. A couple of days to do as much as they can before they start getting bogged down again. Let's hope they make it count
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2024-09-08
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I believe the engine can run on anything combustible. Fill that thing with Vodka!
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2024-09-08
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> I remember thinking that was an absurdly pessimistic take but now I realize he was right.
That is literally Russia's MO, that's what they do all the time. So it shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone who had paid attention to the news over the last few decades.
It is what a lot of redditors were trying to explain to the warhungry gamers that flooded any Ukraine post at the start of the war.
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2024-09-08
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This time for sure, >4 month old account. This time for sure.
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2024-09-08
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Thanks for your concern, as a Canadian, for how we Americans prioritize our spending. But we'll take it from here.
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> All it takes is a kilo of dynamite or a bundle of hand grenades and suddenly you have a ruined track.
Ehhhhh: [Army Experiments In Train Derailment & Sabotage - 1944](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agznZBiK_Bs)
There are easy ways to wreck a train, but a stick of dynamite is not one of them.
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Let me ask you a question....if the USA just decided to nuke Mexico, how many nuclear weapons do you think they would let us drop on them before they start negotiations for surrender?
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2024-09-08
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finally the good people of kursk can be liberated from the grasp of nazi leadership
a peacekeeping mission, really
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It wasn't *just* the nukes that led to Japan surrendering, the firebombing campaign had them on the brink already. Curtis LeMay was very much of the same school of thought as Harris. The firebombing of Tokyo killed more people than the nuke over Hiroshima. The nukes just gave the emperor the excuse to do it when he did.
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He fell out of the window in the sky
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If they take more land than they need and are pushed out entirely? Then they're just back to status quo. Grabbing and holding a defensable land gain is advantageous to them. They're not going to Moscow.
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Yep, or - instead of burning up men fighting trenches in the east - do maneuver warfare against undefended areas. They can likely cause supply issues to the russians in the south east if they can cut major logistics routes from moscow.
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2024-09-08
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Glory to Ukraine!
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2024-09-08
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Perun's going to have to scramble to get a new video out on this one in time.
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2024-09-08
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Come on! Assassinate Putin in the last block on my bingo card for 2025!!
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2024-09-08
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Kinda, an big alliance of the left barely defeated them but those were the elections for the parliament (and the left alliance doesn't have a true majority, only relative).
However they still doubled their number of seats and may win the next presidential elections.
They never had that much power, and it's increasing every year, they are receiving significant help from a french very far right (traditionnal catholicist) billionnaire that bough a lot of medias in the country about decade ago.
As an example, the guy basically own the publisher for about 80% of all school books in the country, and he clearly just doesn't stop at owning things, he stops investigations, cancel very popular shows, fire entire journalists teams.
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Their military doctrine has the use of nukes as option one for any military incursion into their land. They’re legitimately calling their bluff to the fullest extent. Shits gonna get real fucky real soon
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Russia: We take your land.
Ukraine:.... Reverse UNO
Russia: YOU CAN'T DO THAT
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I mean i address this in my second point.
The explosives in question don't have to obliterate the track, all it has to do is damage the track enough the its not effective and needs to be repaired, then you have drones either waiting to come back around and immediately bomb the track again, or have drones on standby waiting to take out the repair crew.
The damage to the rail itself isn't the key concern. Its moreso the repair team running the risk of getting drone striked while repairing the track. This concern is compounded multiple times over if the Russians were theoretically smart enough to damage the track in multiple area's. It would mean the engineers need to be exposed longer to fix the whole track.
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Additionally, even though much of the gear sent over is to some degree obsolete, it's also stuff that never really got to be fielded in proper wars between somewhat equal forces.
So the data coming back from its use in Ukraine is in of itself worth a fortune.
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Literally, the Allied firebombing was such large scale it created superheated whirlwinds.
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2024-09-08
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Use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine would likely force NATO to engage as the radioactive fallout would impact member states. Equivalent of dropping a dirty bomb.
Russia knows this and fears the response.
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2024-09-08
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Bold move Cotton. Let’s see how this plays out.
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Without a doubt he regrets it.
Russia was doing so well. The longer they held Crimea, the less like it would be that they ever lost it. European dependency on their natural resources was growing rapidly. NATO's existence was being threatened, and they were appearing weak/ineffective. Trump losing reelection was a setback, but a big portion of the right in the US was still warming up to Russia.
Putin got cocky and impatient. Instead of repeating the playbook from Crimea, or just playing the long game by slowly undermining the Ukrainian government until an ally of Russia can get into power and open the doors... he just snapped and went with a full force invasion. Not just to the regions they were trying to "liberate" but attempting to go all the way to the capital.
Now here we are, years into the invasion Hundreds of thousands have died. NATO has taken two new, strong members. Putin has had to push dozens of former friends/allies out of windows. Russia is forced into an uneven relationship with its only remaining allies. Vast amounts of economic damage. Their military might has unquestionably shrunk. The Black Sea fleet is crippled. Natural resource exports to Europe are still going, but it very quickly changed from rapid growth to a rapid decline. Pipelines and depots have been destroyed. And Putin has had to bluff so often that most of the world has stopped taking him at all seriously; when the invasion started, the West was wringing their hands about sending any sort of military aide to Ukraine. Now most of those countries are not only doing that, but they are also giving Ukraine the go ahead to attack targets within Russia. At this point, Russia is literally being invaded and most of the world is cheering the invaders along.
Imagine that happening 5 years ago. Everyone would have been terrified that it would lead to an all-out nuclear war. Western countries would very likely be condemning the attacks and sending Russia aide.
Putin was impatient and screwed up massively. There is no chance at all that he does not realize that. His legacy is destroyed because he will not live long enough to turn this mess into a victory. In power or not, he will die while Russia is suffering through the consequences of his decision to invade Ukraine. Once he is gone, there is no reason for the next government to not squarely pin all of the country's woes on Putin. Even within Russia, history will not be kind. And for the rest of Putin's life, he will be terrified of being assassinated. Constantly in fear, sending out look-alikes, distrusting those around him, hiding in his bunkers. I assume his original plan was to eventually retire and enjoy the billions he stole from the Russian people. That seems entirely impossible now.
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And let me guess they treat Russian civilians with decency?
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> i feel like CIA should study this at one point
I would 50% be surprised if the DIA etc didn't have their hand in this for a while already. The other 50% thinks that Ukraine planned this alone so nothing would leak or be discouraged.
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More like TinyPutin with those heels, I mean lifts, that he wears.
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Awesome reply!! NATO High Comannds are taking note. This war should be over before cristhmas now.
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2024-09-08
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wth am I reading this in grandpa rick’s voice
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And blamed the Chechen separatists so he could fuck up Chechnya because he's obsessed with the idea of a New Russia/Novorussia with vastly expanded borders.
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Spent last night going through war Teles.
Ukrainian western-supplied vehicles were shrugging off multiple drone strikes and just cruising along. Once in positions, Ukraine received re-supply of armed FPV drones from large Hexa and Octo-copter drones.
Ukraine was attacking *fast,* sometimes at the maximum speed a vehicle could travel to the next position.
This has been an impressive, professional operation.
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2024-09-08
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Like a snake eating its own tail.
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>Russia brought war to our land and must feel what it has done.
It must be nice to be a Ruzzian fascist who ignored civilian massacres like Bucha. They get to see Ukrainian soldiers and have no fear that the same will happen to them.
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