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I find it a little sketch- note "allegedly"
I'm probably wrong anyway. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
> Maybe if Noctua would actually innovate because their prices are pretty bad for relative performance.
I bought a DH15 9 years ago and it's been used on 3 systems now. My next build if I need a different mounting kit they'll send it free of charge. I'm still using the original fans in another build and they're flawless.
How is a heatstink you can borderline use for the rest of your life bad price/performance? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
You could say Zero Cool. Hack the planet! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
The article makes the answer fuzzy, but I very seriously doubt you'd get in any trouble from buying whatever inventory Amazon or Newegg already have. Even if it was possible, the PR hit the federal government would get over going after people making domestic retail purchases of existing inventory would not be worth the enforcement. I think you're very likely safe.
I'm sorry to be so vague, but that's the best I can offer.
(also, Happy Cake Day! 🎂) | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Exactly, who cares what products they sell and who they sell those products to?? I'm on Deepcools' side. They run a business. the US isn't sanctioning and banning chinese products because they're being sold in Russia... Absolutely ridiculous is what it is.... | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Memory Express has them, but it is a bit of a drive.. I won't order Newegg. CanadComputers is 3 minutes away. I wouldn't use best buy either, lack of options and knowledge. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
I’m in the same exact boat | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
There is a shocking amount of misinformation in the replies to this thread, and since people here clearly don't understand geopolitics or military technology, I'll explain briefly.
Deepcool was selling products to Russia that contained microchips. Why is this important? Microchips are a vital resource in modern military hardware. Drones, missiles, radios, aircraft, etc. all use these. Russia has been importing electronics of all sorts, such as washers, solely to rip out the microchips for reuse in the armed forces, since they can't simply manufacture more of them. The US has caught onto this and strengthened its sanctions against Chinese companies selling products with microchips to Russia. This includes Deepcool who doesn't just make heatsinks for your CPU.
To anyone who thinks that $1 million is not a lot... no, it isn't. But Deepcool isn't the only company doing this either. If we ignored 500 companies that sold $1 mill worth of products to Russia, suddenly we ignore $500 mill. And when you're dealing with a dictatorship who unilaterally invaded a democratic country that, by popular mandate, chose to align itself with the west, it turns out it's actually good for global stability to cripple that dictatorship's ability to wage war.
If that upsets you, think about why you're fanboying for a company that cares more about making $1 million over the ethics of selling to a country they know will use your products to kill people and commit war crimes in a foreign nation. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
Then what is your alternative to DeepCool/Made In China?
You know China has human rights violations too.
You buy products that you need because they are made on human rights standards? That is impossible.
If the products that you need is only made in China, what will you do? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
Concept of "free market" in America. What a clown country, really deserves to be bombed to death. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
Vote with your wallet! I do that all the time. I just don't tell anyone. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
they have their right to sell to any part of the planet they want. toxic person. ukrainians and russians are both people. if you have hate on russians then you are the racist not the deepcool | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
ah right like the ukrainians dont blow up russian schools and innocent civilians in donbas both countries doing the same . dont play the apologist card on ukraine. if you truly care for human rights go put sanctions to israel for killing armless palestinians | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
Already getting [yanked off the shelves at Micro Center.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Microcenter/comments/1dgakhl/deepcool_products_being_removed_from_shelves/) | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
Thank you for the update!
Last I looked (late yesterday?), Amazon was having lightning deals for some of them. They weren't even good lightning deals. Lol. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
They have very poor chip fab facilities despite being mineral rich. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
Damn, i use a deep cool cpu i brought from micro center.
Do i get a refund after what happened to this Chinese company? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
I just purchased and installed a Mystique AIO for my new build. I guess I'll have one of those rare pc components. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-16-06 |
Which useful chips could one harvest from fans ? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-16-06 |
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Are these officials stuck back in 2015? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
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Fucking stupid.
>Apple bases workers' starting pay on their salaries at previous jobs or on their "pay expectations," which results in lower pay rates for women, according to the complaint.
We asked for less money and they gave us less money. That's not fair! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
So how do they get away with it? Why do people agree to be underpaid? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-16-06 |
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Our third car may be an EV, but I wouldn’t want one as a primary vehicle. So I don’t have one yet. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Which cars only last 5 years these days? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
my 2001 F150 is a daily driver | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
we can't consume our may out of climate change. a new car is not the answer. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I think they’re griping about how they tried to push hydrogen rather than focusing on electrics. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
There have been. Chinese companies are working on if not already producing salt batteries. The rest of the world is already way too far behind China. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
K. That's not silicone which is the real goal. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Now apply this logic to consuming gasoline. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
now apply it to consuming energy in a different form that is currently in high demand! It is super similar!!
I do solar for a living I love renewables. Actual change should involve public transportation improvements and not just more consumer items. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
And how is hydrogen going to fix these issues? They said it’s mostly growing pains, so switching to a brand new tech is just going to create new issues.
> The rates were more closely aligned in the 2023 model year: Those EVs had only 21 per cent more problems than gasoline vehicles, Fisher said.
> The narrower gap in problems between EVs and combustion vehicles in the 2023 model year, Fisher said, suggested that the reliability of EVs, in general, is improving.
So clearly they are working out the kinks and some of the issues are just crap like Tesla can’t figure out panel gaps or a large recall on one model can quickly tilt the scale with limited models.
I also don’t necessarily agree with “80% more problems” is the same as “80% less reliable” by that logic something that works 99.82% of the time is 80% less reliable than something that works 99.9% of the time. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Good luck just cockblocking with tariffs. Tariffs dont change trajectory of future car technology which is clearly EV. Teslas still cant compete with 10K byds | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
You’re right, there definitely for sure is no way to develop any other technology and it’s best to put all of our bets on one way of thinking. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Ok, even if it’s just 70% of the lab version… still more than a vast majority of all gas cars go in a single tank of gas…
I don’t know what the obsession with million miles per charge came from…
The average gas car has a 413 mile range, everyone seems cool with that, I don’t see outrage posts about bigger gas tanks.
The current battery tech can already reach that. The Silverado EV which is a truck, one of the least aerodynamic vehicles does 400 miles.
There aren’t a lot of folks that drive that far in a single day. You’re back to full charge in the morning, this whole range thing is entirely overblown. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
oh no, progress. I guess they should just give up 🤷♂️ | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Hydrogen is still an electric car…. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
that second mentality is why china is so far ahead of us. They knew not to waste their time on tech that doesn’t make sense for anything other than novelty busses and trucks. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
This is you elsewhere in the thread.
>my 2001 F150 is a daily driver
So how many decades till that mass transit comes to your house? How does it get you and your tools to your supposed solar install job? How about when the truck dies get one that doesn't use gas. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Energy consumption is not the problem you doofus. It's the emissions that come from our current methods of producing our energy. Eliminate the emissions and environmental impact on how we produce our energy, and we can use as much energy as we want.
I do agree with your assessment of public transportation and the impact of producing more cars. But your take on energy consumption itself is wrong. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
This is damage control. The EV folks messed up and now started the blaming game. Toyota publicly expressed doubts of the EV revolution, and Musk and his supporters laughed at him.
I'll tell you what the problem is. Tesla had an incredible momentum. Musk should get all the credits for creating such hypes and promises about EVs. Musk said Tesla isn't a car company. Believe him. But while Tesla is a vehicle for creating excitement, it wasn't enough. If there was a basic EV without the FSD shits; something that is dependable, reliable, affordable and comfortable, the situation would have been very different. You need a version of a Corolla, a Camry, a Sienna. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
>The actual production costs are way higher.
What's your source on BYD production costs? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Do you not have air conditioning where you live? I’d move. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
>I also wouldn’t believe that was making much of a difference.
You don't believe that reducing the amount of pollution you create makes a difference? It's this exact kind of mentality that has led to the situation we are in.
No matter how well you maintain a gas vehicle, it will always have a greater impact on the environment than an ICE vehicle, full stop. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
lol.. and your point is? 🤔 | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Thank you China for singlehandedly saving the Earth and reversing Anglo-Saxon created global warming with your affordable EVs. Thank you CPC (Communist Party of China, the official name) for investing (yes that's right, not subsidy, but INVESTMENT) in Green technology. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
The amount of people that think being pedantic somehow makes them seem clever. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
The human race has an opportunistic parasitic sociopathic ownership class attached to it. Maybe one day we will cure ourselves. Lice and bedbugs were a part of everyday life for thousand of years.....till they weren't. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
You’ll change your mind when you need a battery out of warranty. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Are you taking into account the shipping and manufacturing of that vehicle? Compare that to the existing vehicle that is already here. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
The thing is, the only reason China lets those manufacturers sell cars in China is because the build them there. They’re putting Chinese laborers to work.
There’s no reciprocation for Chinese cars to be built in the US or Europe. Maybe that’s what they need to balance things out. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
[Dr Manhattan](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/360/522/db7.jpg) | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
It’s not though, they are IC engines that burn hydrogen. Your failure to understand the difference is astounding. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Why do you think I’m so sort of pro hydrogen person? I know the exact difference, you seem to struggle with simple facts | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Under your logic gas cars are electric cars that burn gas. It takes electricity to refine oil too. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
What? Just no… you lack basic reading comprehension | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
EVs are such a scam. They aren’t even better for the planet because the energy mostly still comes from fossil fuels, they take more energy to produce, they have other side effects related to the mining of their minerals. But hey we are just saying fuck it this way it looks like we are doing something and it’s just hyped up by industry/gov/misguided activists for their own reasons. Green energy for industry should have been the first part of the transition, and it’s not even on the radar. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
They're showing up big time here in New Zealand, if you guys don't want 'em and won't compete that sound like not our problem
The price makes a BYD like the only logical choice unless you want to pay extra (like 2x) for a brand name | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
You are on crack, cheap crack at that. Are you trolling or really this challenged | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
It's a fine balance of protecting U.S. companies, jobs, prices, and future prospects. Problem with many Chinese EV car companies is they're basically taking the Doordash/tech start up approach of "Let's burn money, burn competition, and one day raise prices." You don't want the consequences of "Every car maker outside of these Chinese companies is now bankrupt and out of business because they couldn't burn cash for as long as those Chinese car companies did and now they're all raising prices like crazy". | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
That's because Nio would flood the market with cars half the price of U.S. cars as they are massively subsidized by the government. Customers would stop buying U.S. company cars. U.S. car companies would get demolished and suddenly be underwater in fewer than 5 years. Then they'd go bankrupt or have very few companies left. Then Nio and similar companies skyrocket prices. It's the tech start up/Doordash/Uber approach but as a car company. They rely on government cash injections to stay afloat because they are so incredibly unprofitable. That type of business model is imo extremely toxic as-is and to allow it from outside governments when you know sure as shit they wouldn't allow the U.S. to do that in their country is a bad idea. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Only that cheap EVs in itself are not an advancement. Cheap EVs which will be used for at least a decade would be but if we look at developments like megacasting the EV transition will probably be a net negative | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Modern sodium-ion batteries were invented in 2008 in the USA by Aquion Energy, based on research from Carnegie Mellon University, and venture financing from Bill Gates, Pennsylvania state grants and Kleiner Perkins.
Chinese government-backed fund Titan Energy bought the company in 2017 to acquire it's patents and put to sleep allegations of patent infringements. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Ah, so you've also seen Huawei's network operator pricing then? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Why? To help reduce emissions below the threshold required to avoid or mitigate the likely catastrophic consequences of sustained planetary warming at the current rate. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Wait, but the article claims they are doing the opposite! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Right—they’re not doing what they should. Or was your original comment sarcasm? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Now I’m honestly confused… | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
What I don’t understand is WHY are these car companies sabotaging the march toward EVs? Consumers want them. The planet needs them. Build them and we will come with money in hand. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Because they kill the aftermarket money in terms of thing like maintenance and spare parts. No oil changes ever. Because unless you build in tons of planned obsolescence they last a long time and only need a new battery every so often and as batteries get better not even that. Because there is a long partnership between Oil company executives and car company executives. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Hydrogen is not an energy source but an energy container. It needs large amounts of electricity to be produced. Is the exact same energy source with additional steps, and lower efficiency. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I noticed they didn't compare any Chinese EV manufacturers to truly embarrass the heck out of them. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I seem to remember that Toyota was a strong believer that pure EV infrastructure is not there yet.
I'd believe them. People had to wait for queue up to charge their EVs in Sydney over the Christmas and Easter break.
It's getting there but it still takes time.
A recent plot of land on one of our major aterial motorways stopped being leased to McDonalds and Red Rooster (think KFC) just to introduce fast-chargers | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Because they are late to the EV transition, and aren't capable of producing large amounts of price competitive EVs. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Actually it was a retaliation against European tariffs on US produced chicken. Basically the EU and US banned cheap products to help internal industry's in a tit for tat. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
So you are storing a gas to produce power instead of just storing the power in a more efficient battery pack. Can you not see how it will NEVER EVER IN 100 QUADRILLION YEARS be as efficient given the cost of converting fuel to power? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
wdym we have BYD in Austria and at least where I live it sells pretty damn good. Cheap, good build quality and software. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Just build the manufacturing plants in the EU and the US. Still chinese companies... | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I agree we have to ensure the companies don’t artificially price out competitors. Some of the really cheap electric vehicles are getting by because they’re using lower quality parts that I would hope would be banned due to safety. I don’t want a bunch of death traps on the road, but if China can make an electric car for 30k and it passes our safety standards, then personally I don’t see why it shouldn’t be sold here.
The Big 3 American automakers are all due for a reckoning. They’ve enjoyed decades of super protectionist policies that have caused them to stop innovating. When it comes to EVs, American companies are so far behind. Stymieing electric car adoption is not going to help consumers, which is what we should care about. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Protectionism only gets you so far.
If companies stop innovating at some point we will be in a situation where everyone in places like Europe and North America drives cars that are the modern equivalent of the cars made behind the iron curtains. Just as the makers of the Yugo and Trabant cars how well their products fared when they suddenly had to compete on the open market. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
>[Profit margins at BYD’s passenger-vehicles segment, which makes up the bulk of sales, was “particularly impressive” at 28.1%, the analysts added. They expect that number to rise further this quarter.](https://archive.is/36MfM)
EV exports are an *afterthought* for Chinese companies. It is spillover from the internal market. Japan, Korea, Germany, etc all export a greater percentage of their automobile production than China. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Why would they need to do that? Elon Musk is doing a pretty good job of sabotaging EV on his own… | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Is it because the technology just isn't quite there yet?
Had a model S for 6 months at work and holy shit was it more hassle than it was worth. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
So you’re saying the farming industry is incredibly toxic and we harm other countries with our government subsidies? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Evs aren't much better for the environment. They aren't as reliable, don't last as long and dont hold their value. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Of course but they are about to be pants'd by a whole heap of companies without legacy to worry about. It's not like electric motors are new technology. They didnt/haven't done the leg work to sure up the supply chains either. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Home charging infrastructure? Isn't that just a power outlet in your garage? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Exactly, they probably already have slaves working on it. Political prisoners, Uighurs etc. I travelled in China 30 years ago, road works were ostensibly done by "chain gang" style miserable looking prosoners. I doubt things have improved much these days. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
Sorry, but EV don't have the soul... /S
*Seriously tho, i prefer tinkering with old, mostly mechanical ICE cars than fully wired-electric vehicles (as PERSONAL VEHICLES). Sure, that public transportation of cities must be mostly electric* | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
That title is misleading.
It's not false but it's not the full truth either.
Japan is transitioning to a Hydrogen economy with fuel cells and away from battery only EV's and ICE vehicles. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
I think you'll find Europe is not blocking Chinese cars.
You can buy BYD, and some other brands, in many European countries. And the EU recently decided they would put an ~20% tariff (varies depending on brand) on Chinese cars.
The BYD one is 17.4%.
I don't think that's going to block them. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
“Some stay dry while others feel the pain.” | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
You probably missed the part of them lobbying against laws that would enable the transition. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
they are higher quality than a higher priced Tesla and VW, they are cheaper because China has been investing in battery technology for decades now while the west has 0 battery technology and we import it from china.
the battery of an EV is at least 50% of the cost of the vehicle, BYD and others use their own battery technology and components compared to western manufacturers outsourcing which raises costs.
is not about cheap labor or bad quality, is about inhousing and technology leadership | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-14-06 |
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