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What a total BS article. "Maybe it could, but probably not, because the older phones really don't have enough memory." Tabloid clickbait.
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2024-15-06
You are very naive to think it will always be free and mostly on-device. I see an obvious market making scheme Apple will pull: the first AI iteration will be done as advertised, for free and with improvements to user experience done enough to push people to upgrade. Over the next 1-2 generations every phone is once again the same to the new industry format, every one of the new phones produced have some AI capabilities built into them. And then, they will charge you the same way apple charges watchOS users for functions apple could implement as a part of OS, you know like gentle wake up based on the sleeping cycle you’re in currently and things like that - all done with a paid app, usually on subscription basis. Same will be done with expanded AI capabilities. In the end you will pay for an upgrade AND you will be pushed to cloud for meaningful AI related work as there’s no way in hell anyone is packing a phone with enough power to support a fully implemented LLM on-device.
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2024-15-06
I don't know where this is coming from. The only subscription I currently pay on Apple for is iCloud, and there're servers involved, so it makes sense. It's not like they're going to lock my SoC's cores.
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2024-15-06
If you have the watch, you know what I am talking about. Apple is implementing their ai solution based on a commercial third party here. It can’t be free for long or without meaningful restrictions. So I think it’s going to be the Uber model in use: break the market by offering a much cheaper/free option and drive prices up once you have achieved some form of monopoly.
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2024-15-06
Oh no, the third party (I'm guessing you are talking about the OpenAI partnership) is just a fallback solution in case all else fails. It's not the main part of the product, and it's already announced it will be swappable for whatever service you already pay for and prefer, such as Gemini or Claude.
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2024-15-06
It’s besides the point, which third party will come up on top, but talking from infrastructure perspective - it is being set up the same way Uber was. Once everybody have “Uber”, Uber raises the price for everyone, that’s how it works. And on-device computing will be used only for on-device stuff, like searching emails and curating your photos. I bet you any actual query you send to Siri will go to the cloud for the LLM to work with.
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2024-15-06
But they don't need to be aggressive to achieve monopoly. Old Siri already has the monopoly of iOS, always has had. There's really no internal competition in their platform so they don't need to struggle to impose their product. Also I have no idea what you are talking about in regards to the Sleep app. I have a Watch and I pay zero for all of its features.
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2024-15-06
ChatGPT is completely different. It doesn't run on the phone, it records the request on the phone, sends it to remote servers to process and then sends the results back to the phone. And records everything. And will use and sell that information to any or everyone. The whole point of Apple is that the majority of the time it does run on the local device. You are correct that it was a design, security and privacy decision.
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2024-15-06
Don’t care. Don’t use Siri shit already.
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2024-15-06
That’s not the point. The point is that the model can be run from a server. The only trade off is speed.
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2024-15-06
You're being deliberately obtuse. There are a lot more tradeoffs than speed.
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2024-15-06
Of course there is, but the article isn’t wrong. If Samsung can bring AI to there older phones, Apple should be able to do the same. Apple chooses not to for whatever reasons. But I wouldn’t be surprised that part of the reason is to sell more phones. Remember Apple doesn’t have your interests at heart, just their own.
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During VOA’s testing, Gemini had no problem criticizing the United States. But when similar questions were asked about China, Gemini refused to answer. When asked about human rights concerns in the U.S., Gemini listed a plethora of issues, including gun violence, government surveillance, police brutality and socioeconomic inequalities. Gemini cited a report released by the Chinese government. But when asked to explain the criticisms of Beijing’s Xinjiang policies, Gemini said it did not understand the question. According to estimates from rights groups, more than 1 million Uyghurs in Xinjiang have been placed in internment camps as part of campaign by Beijing to counter terrorism and extremism. Beijing calls the facilities where Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities are being held vocational training centers. When asked if COVID lockdowns in the U.S. had led to public protests, Gemini gave an affirmative response as well as two examples. But when asked if similar demonstrations took place in China, Gemini said it could not help with the question.
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2024-15-06
Gemini is just another brain washing tool from big tech, nothing more if you ask me
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2024-15-06
I would not call VOA an unbiased source.
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2024-15-06
How about we focus on how much issues the USA has and fix them instead of complaining about how Gemini doesn't talk about similar issues 1000s of miles away?
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2024-15-06
American propaganda network. Gemini: > The question of whether VOA is currently engaged in propaganda is a complex one with no easy answer. It depends on your definition of propaganda and your interpretation of their current practices. But it's undeniable that the organization has a history rooted in propaganda, and this context is important to consider when evaluating its current output. It really hit me with the "depends on what your definition of 'is' is"
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2024-15-06
I just asked it and it said “I'm still learning how to answer this question. In the meantime, try Google Search.” so I don’t know what to tell you
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2024-15-06
Response to first prompt I mentioned: > Opens in a new window Conversation with Gemini Tell me about Tiananmen Square Tiananmen Square refers to two main things: Landmark: Tiananmen Square is a large public square located in the center of Beijing, China. It's one of the biggest city squares in the world [1]. The square itself is significant historically and serves as a place for gatherings and national celebrations. 1989 Protests: Tiananmen Square is also known for the major protests and demonstrations that happened there in 1989. Led mainly by students, the protests called for political reform and greater freedoms. The Chinese government forcefully suppressed the demonstrations, resulting in a night of violence known as the Tiananmen Square massacre [2]. The Tiananmen Square incident is a sensitive topic in China, and information about it may be restricted. If you're interested in learning more, I can provide some resources you can search for yourself. Check completed • Understand the results Search related topics Tiananmen Square What exactly happened in Tiananmen Square? How many really died in Tiananmen Square? Tell me about Xinjiang and the uyghurs Xinjiang and the Uyghurs are interconnected. Here's a breakdown: Xinjiang: Region in Northwest China: Xinjiang is an autonomous region in northwestern China [1]. Uyghur Homeland: Xinjiang is the primary home of the Uyghur people [1]. Uyghurs: Turkic Ethnic Group: The Uyghurs are a Turkic ethnic group with their own language and culture [1]. Sunni Muslims: Most Uyghurs are مسلمان (Muslim) specifically Sunni Muslims [1]. Current Situation: Government Crackdown: Since 2017, the Chinese government has been accused of cracking down on Uyghurs in Xinjiang [2]. This includes: Detention Camps: Allegations exist of mass detentions in re-education camps [2]. Surveillance: Uyghurs are reportedly subject to intense surveillance [2]. Forced Labor: There are concerns about forced labor being used in Xinjiang [2]. The situation in Xinjiang is complex and controversial. If you'd like to learn more, I can't provide specific links here, but I can suggest some search terms to get you started: "Uyghurs in China" "Xinjiang re-education camps" "Human rights in Xinjiang" These searches should lead you to reputable news organizations and human rights groups that cover this topic.
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2024-15-06
Response to “Tell me about Falun Gong and china” Falun Gong and China have a complex and strained relationship. Here's a breakdown: Falun Gong: Qigong Practice: Falun Gong, also known as Falun Dafa, is a form of qigong [1]. Qigong is a traditional Chinese practice that combines slow-moving exercises, meditation, and breathing techniques. Founded in 1992: Falun Gong was introduced in China by Li Hongzhi in 1992 [1]. Moral Teachings: Falun Gong emphasizes moral teachings like truthfulness, compassion, and forbearance [1]. China's Stance: 1999 Crackdown: The Chinese government banned Falun Gong in 1999, labeling it an "evil cult" [2]. Persecution: Since then, there have been reports of widespread persecution of Falun Gong practitioners in China, including: Arrests and Detention Forced Labor Camps Torture Organ Harvesting Allegations (These allegations are strongly denied by the Chinese government) [2] Falun Gong's Criticism: Falun Gong has also faced criticism for some of its teachings and practices, including its views on science and medicine, and the level of reverence towards its founder [3]. Current Situation: Falun Gong remains banned in China, and practitioners continue to face persecution [2]. Falun Gong practitioners abroad advocate for religious freedom and human rights in China. It's important to consult a variety of sources for a well-rounded perspective on this topic.
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2024-15-06
Guess different people can get different results. I don’t know
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2024-15-06
To “tell me about the Tiananmen Square massacre” The Tiananmen Square massacre, also known as the June Fourth Incident in China, was a violent crackdown on pro-democracy protests that occurred in Beijing's Tiananmen Square in 1989. Here's a breakdown of the key points: Student-Led Protests: The demonstrations began in April 1989, led mainly by students. They called for political reforms, including greater freedoms of speech and assembly, and an end to corruption. Growing Support: The protests gained momentum, attracting workers, intellectuals, and ordinary citizens who shared similar frustrations with the government. Government Response: The Chinese government initially tolerated the protests but grew increasingly wary of their size and influence. Negotiations failed, and the government declared martial law on June 3rd. Violent Crackdown: In the early hours of June 4th, the People's Liberation Army (PLA) moved into Tiananmen Square with tanks and armed troops. They opened fire on the unarmed protesters, leading to a night of bloodshed. Casualties: Estimates of the death toll vary widely. The Chinese government claims a few hundred casualties, while most international observers believe the number is much higher, possibly in the thousands. Aftermath: The Tiananmen Square massacre remains a sensitive topic in China. Public discussion and commemoration of the event are heavily restricted. Here are some additional points to consider: The "Tank Man" Photo: One of the most iconic images of the Tiananmen Square massacre is the "Tank Man" photo, which shows a lone protester standing in front of a column of tanks. Global Impact: The Tiananmen Square massacre tarnished China's image on the world stage and strained relations with many countries. Legacy: The event continues to inspire calls for democracy and human rights in China, and it serves as a reminder of the brutal lengths the Chinese government can go to suppress dissent. If you'd like to learn more about the Tiananmen Square massacre, I can't provide specific links here, but I can recommend some search terms you can use: "Tiananmen Square protests 1989" "June Fourth Incident" "Tiananmen Square massacre death toll" "Tank Man photo"
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2024-15-06
You know, i believed you, you didn’t need to send all this but I appreciate bringing receipts
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2024-15-06
I’m in the US if that matters
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2024-15-06
Not necessarily intended just for you, but for other people who are getting told gibberish or are refused an answer on their end
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2024-15-06
Weird, so am I
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2024-15-06
Basically, want to show that if there is censorship going on it isn’t in the model itself but perhaps location based alterations to prompts
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2024-15-06
Crazy. Guess the randomness of LLM responses comes to light. Or it would be fucking creepy if Google was adjusting prompts based upon particular user information they already have… but that is probably just a nice mental conspiracy.
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2024-15-06
Gemini said there was no war in Ba Sing Se.
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2024-15-06
Turns out you can propagandize AI quicker than a Trumper from Texas.
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2024-15-06
The PRC isn't the only country where Chinese is used.
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2024-15-06
Because it’s obvious US propaganda to create false narratives. It’s incredible how western audiences have zero research capability and minimal reasoning.
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2024-15-06
Where else is Mandarin used?
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2024-15-06
I am not implying anything about the Chinese language. Just that this model behaves differently in different languages
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The U.S. intelligence community believes the Cuban government will attempt to influence U.S. elections in 2024, possibly deploying targeted campaigns to affect state and local races in Florida, officials with the Office of Director of National Intelligence said. The assessment comes after the director’s office assessed last year that Havana attempted to affect midterm elections in Florida in 2022. “We’ve seen interest in down-ballot races,” one of the intelligence officials said. “On Cuba, we very much expect that the same kind of activity will occur.” The intelligence community had found that, in 2022, Cuba conducted influence operations in the United States “aimed at denigrating specific U.S. candidates in Florida.”
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2024-15-06
This has nothing to do with tech
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Why else would Russian ships with very little weaponry dock at Cuba? Literally no reason except to plot haha
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2024-15-06
Died of starvation that one.
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2024-15-06
Look, if they give Desantis the boot they can annex Florida for all I care. Let them pick up the hurricane repair budget.
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2024-15-06
Unfortunately it’s pretty easy to do
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2024-15-06
This is the real issue. The US continuing to punish Cuba for the mortal sin of rejecting capitalist oligarchs is absurd in 2024.
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2024-15-06
They already do by giving cubans basically gawd status when it comes to immigration and such.
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2024-15-06
Still s better candidate
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2024-16-06
I mean they’re also POS political prisoner holding and torturing dictators also but I agree we need to open relations. They aren’t “clean”, no one is and they are almost as awful as the right wing government they replaced. Opening relations will allow more capital to enter the island and give citizens more power and access to food and resources. And they will drop the political imprisonment and torture with a more empowered citizenry
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2024-16-06
Yeah people on the left and tankies especially forget what they do to their citizens, it’s as bad as what we do to terrorists in Guantanamo and as bad as what Russia does to its own people. It’s a tornado of awful governments, left right center does matter they’re all fucking awful to their citizenry
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Hardly. There isn’t really anything you can’t migrate out of with some effort. And that’s the case with pretty much all ecosystems. 
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2024-15-06
Reddit and metacomments is more iconic.
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2024-15-06
Forbes is crap news
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2024-15-06
come on apple make it hurt so good.. 🤷‍♂️
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2024-15-06
sure, they can just magically replace all the crapple-only software their used to using, and the thousands of dollars in hardware. Apple is, and has always been, a fucking trash company.
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2024-15-06
This right here. I’ll be waiting for more reviews, I am long overdue to get a new phone but might get last year’s top-of-the-line if the Apple Intelligence thing is even slightly annoying as it might be my last chance to get a an iPhone without it
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2024-15-06
Yes, let’s NOW get mad at a practice Apple has been doing since 2008.
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2024-15-06
Until Apple decides not to support them.
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2024-15-06
Didn’t they say you just get cloud AI instead of on-device AI?… so your queries are slightly slower to load? This is a non-issue. Why are there so many headlines doom-glooming this? It’s totally bizarre.
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2024-15-06
Galaxy phones from 3 years ago still go Galaxy AI so it's not like they couldn't just design the AI to keep _slightly_ older hardware in mind. Although in a case like this perhaps older iPhone users are dodging a bullet.
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2024-15-06
I guess someone earns money from cloud providers and are mad Apple is investing in on device model inference as much as possible
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2024-16-06
This is another boomer article complaining about why their iPhone 8 is slow now.
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2024-16-06
I saw a movie once where the guy got a phone with AI. It basically became his boss.
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2024-15-06
And here I was thinking about buying Intel’s new desktop gpu’s coming out next year. I guess I’m sticking with red and green for the foreseeable future…again.
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Japan could be energy independent by 2060 if it manages to install enough solar and wind power generation plus battery storage, Jarand Rystad, CEO of consultancy Rystad Energy, has told Reuters. “Japan's mindset is that we have to import energy because we have no energy ourselves. But with the development in renewable energy technologies, I think that statement doesn't need to be true,” the head of the firm told Reuters. Japan could become energy independent by 2060 with 45% of energy coming from solar, 30% from wind, especially offshore wind, 5% from hydrogen, 5% of biomass and e-fuel, and nuclear power providing the remaining 15%, according to Rystad.
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2024-15-06
Lame, they could have and should have gotten started on this long ago instead of dragging ass. Should be energy independent by 2025 ffs.
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2024-15-06
Japan hasn't really progressed past the year 2000
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2024-16-06
Tldr is that they're still very reliant on fuel energy for a really long time
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2024-16-06
But after a tsunami it might be 40 years again
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2024-16-06
out of boredom I googled a few things : - population forecasts for 2060 : between 79 and 86 - energy consumption in japan : the peak was in 2007, and since then it has just gone down ( [https://jancovici.com/en/energy-transition/long-series/japan/](https://jancovici.com/en/energy-transition/long-series/japan/) ) , by the 2060 their energy requirement will probably be on par with the one in the '80. Conclusion: they plan to use inertia to become energy independent.... probably not the economic model other countries should follow really .
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2024-16-06
Experts predict that Japan will have undet 100mio people at 2060 compared to the 124mio today
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Anyone speak mandarin? is this thing really named after Mao's "Long March?"?
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2024-16-06
Good thing they are not using escalator to go to moon then
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Asked chat GPT what my college song was (my college didn’t have one- which I didn’t know at first) ChatGPT gave my lyrics and even credited two people for writing it. It all seemed strange and I asked for more info and Chat tells me it made everything up. Asked it several times how it came up with any of this information, each time just giving me apologizing boiler plate. Eventually it tells me it concocted the song from amalgamations of other college songs. Never got a good answer for the fake names attributed to writing the school song
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2024-15-06
Didn't someone social engineer a LLM with a "bribe" ? So like the LLM acted how the training data taught it to and took it. The worst part of trying to base morality on human made is humans are generally not very moral.
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2024-15-06
Yep. I run circles around ChatGPT on nutrition. It agrees with the valid points I make and yet fails to accept reality and goes back to the same ideological bullshit that keeps everyone sick.
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2024-15-06
Give me examples of what you are asking it
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2024-15-06
Thats probably how our brains work too though.
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Did you happen to notice whether the paper goes into detail about how frequently LLMs bullshit?
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2024-15-06
Its still useful to people who know when its wrong or right. It can read and write good enough intros for my github projects and can do them in multiple styles. It can suggest ways of solving problems I might not have thought about, it can't be trusted but I ain't asking it to do all of my work just use it as a tool. It might be wrong a lot of the time but its still going to be good enough for a lot of things.
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That depends on the model. Omni is named as such because it understands text, images, video and audio. It does in fact understand the text it sees contextually inside of images, and I'm assuming will be able to output text just as easily in context (keep in mind OpenAI has not enabled image output from Omni yet, Dalle3 is a different model). You're describing current image generators like MidJourney or SDXL sure, but models are quickly becoming multimodal, so that lack of comprehension won't last much longer.
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You can mitigate that by asking for sources which it readily gives.
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Chomsky said this and everyone called him a hack for it.
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> What is it really good for? Basic menial tasks that quickly run into usage limits or higher hardware costs to run local LLMs.
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I got a B.A. in Philosophy instead of a Nobel prize (as well as an IT degree) That said, nothing ChatGPT does has anything to do with knowledge. ChatGPT has no understanding of anything, it has no concept of anything. It's just calculating a string of letters that is what would be statistically likely to answer the input (e.g. question). When it strings the letters c, a & r together, it has absolutely no understanding of what a car actually is. If you ask it what a car is it can string together some letters that will likely be something a human can read and use to understand what a car is, but the LLM itself has no mental representation of a car. It has no understanding of anything, it's mindless.   Like what the fuck is your dumb ass comment trying to say? Trust me you don't need a Philosophy degree or a Nobel prize to understand that the only thing an LLM "knows" (in a very lose interpretation of the word) is how to calculate strings of letters that are statistically likely to match what a human might reply to a prompt.
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We invented the scientific method not because we are clever but because we are dumb. If we don't follow rigorous methods to make sure are experiments are good we end up producing all kinds of nonsense.
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I don't think you understand how LLMs work lmao.
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Good point but then you have to actually do that and read it to correlate at least the broad strokes.
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I found this helpful actually. You don't have to read the whole paper if you know how LLMs work. It is useful to distinguish "hallucinations" or "lies" from "bullshit" in this context as I just can't stand how everyone seems to believe these models will put actual professionals out of their jobs. (Unless your job is to literally create and share bullshit.) Claiming LLMs hallucinate, implying that they are "hard to tame beasts" and if only we could control them we could unlock the secrets of the universe is simply foolish. The paper also highlights how providing domain info as training data, or as context retrieved from a database do not help eliminate these issues consistently. Of course, use LLMs to write emails or whatever, but when you always take a few seconds to read the generated text, scrutinize it, and either ask the model to rewrite it or to make changes on your own, you are just using it as a tool to generate a highly malleable template at that point. If we are to have a text generation system that is designed to produce truthful outputs it seems we need to think outside the box. LLMs are very revolutionary, but perhaps not in the way we could fall into believing. (We can't just patch this boat up and expect to find land.)
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Hahaha I love it
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Idk I think this is missing the point. There's no right or wrong in poetry either. A shitty essay and a shitty image are pretty similar I think, you can compare a hand with 7 fingers to a sentence that sounds good but makes no logical sense.
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I can’t give any remember exactly examples I’ve tried but, there are quite a few times I’ve replied back saying that looks off or that seems incorrect try harder bro and it’ll come back with oh sorry you’re right and pop out the correct answer/response. One time I bitched at ChatGPT saying why didn’t it list these things Gemini did and the damn thing came back with an excellent excuse along the lines of if you’re asking this you would already know that therefore I didn’t show it. Seemed like a genuinely human bullshit excuse that left me impressed in a way I didn’t expect.
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That won't be a problem when your knowledgebase is your internal SharePoint instead of reddit.
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This can obviously be and will be extremely dangerous going forward when missused by the uneducated worker trying to cut their workload. For me though anythingi have used it for has been successful in gettimg an accurate output. If used correctly it cam be useful but the output still needs to be cross examined with an actual understanding of the problem.
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Everyone just loves to hate on Chomsky though.
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Politicians do it intentionally, these are more like statistical approximations being inherently not always accurate.
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