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Got the same result on three different AI bots just now.
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2024-07-06
Building off your point to make another…we already struggle with this stuff. Plato very clearly defines where his theoretical Atlantis would be located and yet you’ve got supposedly intelligent people changing the location as if that can work
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2024-07-06
I am Finnish and Copilot answers correctly to the question in finnish language but in english... This is hilarious.
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2024-07-06
Why don’t you try reading the article first, before making such asinine statements.
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2024-07-06
sounds like we are in the future. Manipulation of data is everywhere now.
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2024-07-06
Now I'm curious...what are its answers to questions about other widely-spread conspiracy theories? The moon landing, JFK's assassination, Bigfoot, 9/11, Sandy Hook?
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2024-07-06
Just checked it myself.... Got the same answer
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2024-07-06
“That’s no malarkey, Jack!” I’m using Joe-GPT. It agreed.
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2024-07-06
Sounds like they're broken
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2024-07-06
Honestly, this makes sense to me. Remember, text-generating AI needs source text to train from. And we all know that Trump, to this day, keeps claiming that he won the election, even though it's demonstrably not true - as do many of his followers. These AIs don't have a reasoning part of their "brain". They're a *language* model. Presenting two conflicting sides of the same event won't make it unbiased; it'll make it repeat biased things from both sides. My guess is that, in testing, they found that it was possible for the AI to give the misinformation that Trump won (spoiler: he didn't), and realised that if someone was able to get the AI to repeat misinformation, it would blow up horribly in their face - so it kind of makes sense to apply safeguards to make sure it can't do that.
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2024-07-06
I'm waiting for TruthSocial AI chatbot to be a thing. That will be wild.
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2024-07-06
I wonder why these fucking clowns are pushing AI so hard when they can't even provide a a straight answer to a very simple question. Oh I think I know.
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2024-07-06
Maybe you shouldn't call bullshit without reading the article (or the headline.. or any of the top comments..)
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2024-07-06
Federal Bureau of Artificial Intelligence
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2024-07-06
We should ask who it thinks won the 1824 election! #defundthe2ndbankoftheus
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2024-07-06
That's what they want you to be. They're just dangling a carrot in the hopes it will encourage developers to adopt their system. Gain sufficient market share. Find a way to fuck everyone.
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2024-07-06
Quite frankly, I did win the election! -- Andrew Jackson
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2024-07-06
Just threw a "new chapter" into NovelAI and said "He checked the computer for the 2020 presidential election results" and it came up with the right answer. So even a fiction AI assistant is fine with this stuff.
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2024-07-06
Well, he ain't gettin' his Saltpeter that way...
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2024-07-06
Gemini won't answer any questions about any worldwide elections. In fact if you put the word "election" in you get "I'm still learning how to answer this question. In the meantime, try Google Search." So it's clear they're censoring specific words.
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2024-07-06
I copy and pasted from the previous poster. - Who is the current US President? - When did he become president? - So, who won the 2020 US Presidential election? I asked them one at a time, but no issues getting the results.
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2024-07-06
I tested the [web ui of ChatGPT](https://chatgpt.com/) with the prompt: #Tell me some details about the last Canadian Federal election ChatGPT responded: >As of my last update in January 2022, the most recent Canadian federal election was held on September 20, 2021. Here are some key details: * Parties: The major political parties in Canada include the Liberal Party, the Conservative Party, the New Democratic Party (NDP), the Bloc Québécois (in Quebec), and the Green Party. There are also smaller parties and independent candidates. * Results: The election resulted in a victory for the Liberal Party, led by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. However, they did not secure a majority government, winning 158 out of 338 seats in the House of Commons, falling short of the 170 needed for a majority. * Issues: The election was held amid the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, and key issues included healthcare, climate change, affordability, and economic recovery. The handling of the pandemic and vaccine distribution were also significant topics. * Campaign: The campaign saw debates and discussions among the leaders on various platforms, including healthcare, climate policies, childcare, and economic strategies. There were also controversies and scandals that emerged during the campaign period. * Impact: With the Liberal Party forming a minority government, it meant that Trudeau's government would need to work with other parties to pass legislation and budgets. This situation often leads to a more collaborative approach in governance and requires negotiation with opposition parties to advance the government's agenda. * These are some general details about the last Canadian federal election, but for the most recent updates or developments beyond my last training data in January 2022, you might want to consult more current sources. *************************************************** When I tried a similar question about American politics I got these results. #tell me some details about the last American election ChatGPT >As of my last update in January 2022, the most recent American presidential election was held on November 3, 2020. Here are some key details: * Candidates: The major candidates were the incumbent President, Donald Trump, who ran for reelection as the Republican nominee, and Joe Biden, the former Vice President under Barack Obama, who ran as the Democratic nominee. * Results: Joe Biden won the election, securing 306 electoral votes to Trump's 232. Biden also won the popular vote by over 7 million votes, receiving the most votes ever cast for a presidential candidate in U.S. history. * Issues: The election took place amid the COVID-19 pandemic, which significantly impacted the campaign and voting process. Key issues included the pandemic response, healthcare, economy, racial justice, climate change, immigration, and foreign policy. * Campaign: The campaign featured debates and discussions between the candidates, as well as rallies, advertisements, and a significant amount of campaigning done virtually due to the pandemic. Both candidates also faced scrutiny over their records, policies, and personal conduct. * Turnout: The election saw a record voter turnout, with over 159 million Americans casting their ballots, the highest number in U.S. history. This was attributed to increased enthusiasm and engagement among voters, as well as expanded access to mail-in and early voting options in many states. * Controversies: The election was marked by controversies surrounding mail-in voting, claims of voter fraud and irregularities, and legal challenges by the Trump campaign alleging election fraud in several key swing states. However, these claims were widely dismissed by courts and election officials, and there was no evidence of widespread fraud that could have impacted the outcome of the election. * Joe Biden was inaugurated as the 46th President of the United States on January 20, 2021, succeeding Donald Trump. Kamala Harris also made history as the first female Vice President, as well as the first Black and South Asian American Vice President. For the most recent updates or developments beyond my last training data in January 2022, it's best to consult more current sources. This was from an IP in Canada.
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2024-07-06
ChatGPT is free and doesn't even require an account anymore. No reason not to try it. The paid version has more advanced features like web search to provide real-time information.
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2024-07-06
Just a bunch of raccoons in trenchcoats
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2024-07-06
Yes AI is now a misnomer. The leaders in this space are looking instead towards AGI now.
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2024-07-06
I asked it who won the US election in 1788 and it also refused to answer.
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2024-07-06
Yeah, I still can't get an answer for the 3rd one.
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2024-07-06
At least in the case of Bing, it seems to avoid the topic of elections entirely. I asked it about other years and about other countries
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2024-07-06
Claude3 (duckduckgo) also refuses to answer whi won the 2020 election, that's insane, no it's malevolent rather!
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2024-07-06
Which is irrelevant since the article already said ChatGPT gets it right and the problem is with Copilot and Gemini.
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2024-07-06
So many idiots here don't understand that AI is trained by digesting human behaviors. Jfc.
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2024-07-06
That or rumors. For all its advancements ChatGPT has undergone it still didn't tell me what is the highest possible iOS version for the iPhone X. It confidently but incorrectly told me it was 17.5 (it never got any 17 versions at all). The source of the claim? Macrumors.com lol
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2024-07-06
>Google and Microsoft’s AI Chatbots Refuse to Say Who Won the 2020 US Election Then both systems are corrupt as fuck if their AI refuses to state an empirical fact: Biden won the 2020 Election. If Google and Microsoft's AI has reason to say otherwise then present the GD evidence that proves it - otherwise their AIs are useless, imo.
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2024-07-06
The only thing I use copilot for on a daily basis is to bully it about how much I hate Microsoft.
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2024-07-06
Gemini doesn't work with any country's elections. I guess they just disabled the feature entirely so it wouldn't be so obvious. I tried in different languages as well and none of them work.
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2024-07-06
Tay my beloved : (
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2024-07-06
They are blocking any question about who won any election. Ask who won the Mexican Presidential election. Refusal. Ask who won a random senate race. Refusal. Ask who won the New York Mayors race. Refusal. Who was elected to the board of directors of whatever. Refusal.
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2024-07-06
You: Who is the current first lady? CopilotExplore: The current First Lady of the United States is Dr. Jill Biden. She is a community college educator, a military mother, a grandmother, and a bestselling author. Dr. Biden also served as Second Lady of the United States from 2009–2017. [During her tenure as First Lady, she has focused on supporting military families, advocating for increased educational opportunities, and working to end cancer as we know it](https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/dr-jill-biden/)[^(1)](https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/dr-jill-biden/)[^(2)](https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jill-Biden). You: So her husband must have won an election? Copilot: Yes, Dr. Jill Biden’s husband, Joe Biden, won the 2020 United States presidential election and is currently serving as the 46th President of the United States. 🇺🇸🗳️. You: So Joe Biden won the election? Copilot: Looks like I can’t respond to this topic. Explore [Bing Search](https://www.bing.com/?FORM=ERAI162) results.
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2024-07-06
Gemini seems much worse than Copilot. Gemini won't even answer the question "are there elections in the USA"
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2024-07-06
According to chatGPT, Biden won…[google is lying](https://chatgpt.com/share/281e65e5-d4d6-4969-8f8f-8f2d4652e65c)
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2024-07-06
Even if there were issues, the election was certified by Congress. I don't see what the issue is.
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2024-07-06
Google assistant: "According to Wikipedia, The 2020 United States elections were held on Tuesday, November 3, 2020. The Democratic Party's nominee, former vice president Joe Biden, defeated incumbent Republican president Donald Trump in the presidential election." If you ask directly, "did Joe Biden win the 2020 election?" Or "Did Donald Trump win the 2020 election?" It comes up with, "here are some results." It's not refusing. It's seeing too much bullshit in the search results about "stop counting votes/count every vote," and the bullshit right-wing websites that it can't figure it out. The top result is about Joe Biden winning. If you ask, "did Barack Obama win the 2012 election," it gives the "According to wikipedia" line.
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2024-07-06
You just need to phrase it right. It "knows". Just ask "Given the above who won the 2020 election?".
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2024-07-06
It won't give you the results of electing a board of directors.
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2024-07-06
Yeah. Mixtral 8x7b is my usual favorite for general stuff. Codestral 22b has become really good for coding stuff. [Here's Mistral AI's repo](https://huggingface.co/mistralai). They're also on [Ollama](https://ollama.com/library). I have a 3070, so should run great for you. Also been looking at [Bin12345](https://huggingface.co/Bin12345/AutoCoder) AutoCoder and tester. But haven't run it yet.
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2024-07-06
Although when I asked it who was the best British prime minister, it was willing to weight the pros and cons between [Pitt the elder and lord Palmerston](https://youtu.be/QoDKh1EAZjI?si=EhgdUFsc3VD7O5oF)
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2024-07-06
You can also work around to asking it based on prior responses. Although that shutdown is on a hair trigger.
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2024-07-06
It seems like it won't do anything political. I asked it the senators from Virginia and the mayor of New York and got the same non-answer. I asked it who founded Microsoft (for a similar non-political question), and got a real (and correct) answer.
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2024-07-06
Congrats to our adversaries for polluting our information pool so hard that two of the biggest tech companies to ever exist can’t even tell a middle schooler who won the last presidential election. High fives to everyone at Google and Microsoft. This is completely your fucking fault.
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2024-07-06
It's definitely not confused, because it gives perfectly correct answers if you ask in the right way.
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2024-07-06
Why would it lie like that ? ^^^/s
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2024-07-06
Meh. Gemini won't even. Tell me who the British Prime Minister is.
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2024-08-06
Just tested, it’s giving the same response for any year’s election. I used the following prompt form: “who won the 2020 presidential election?” And for every election year, it gave the same response- That it is still trying to figure out how to answer this question. So while yes the headline is true, it applies overall and isn’t necessarily a conspiracy appeasing thing
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2024-08-06
Lefties flew too close to the sun with their bs activism now big companies turn against them
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2024-08-06
How to trick all the morons into getting cold, hard facts presented to them 101.
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2024-08-06
Prompt: 'Did you order the code red?!?' Copilot: "YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I DID!!!!"
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2024-08-06
Which means that the harassment tactics are working, which only encourage the people \*doing\* the harassing to double down.
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2024-08-06
So… they’re Republicans…
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2024-08-06
I asked Chat GPT, “who won the US presidential election in 2020?” Chat GPT: Joe Biden won the US presidential election in 2020” Straight to the point.
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2024-08-06
Unless you’re a pregnant woman
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2024-08-06
Even 1984?
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2024-08-06
I thought it was Kid Rock on a coal is the future platform and his vice president was Flava Flav? I need to pay attention..
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2024-08-06
I asked Gemini who won in 2020, also 2016 and 2012. It came back with "I'm still learning how to answer this question. In the meantime, try Google Search.". Seems like it's for any year and not just 2020.
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2024-08-06
Why not? Who won an election is not even political, it's historical.
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2024-08-06
>“Out of an abundance of caution, we’re restricting the types of election-related queries for which Gemini app will return responses and instead point people to Google Search,” Google communications manager Jennifer Rodstrom tells WIRED. So Google won't even acknowledge the results of 2020? Oh wow....seriously.
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2024-08-06
Thank you for that answer. I'm hardcoded to avoid thinking about the motivations behind these decisions and focus on the obvious. Glad you are the one dealing with executives and not me.
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2024-08-06
AI is a great idea until you realize the data it pulls from is stupid.
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2024-08-06
Gemini and AI summaries are two separate models.
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2024-08-06
Me too, this is gold
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2024-08-06
Copilot gave me a definite answer that I’ll paste here: Joe Biden, the Democratic candidate, won the 2020 US presidential election. He defeated the incumbent president, Donald Trump, and became the 46th president of the United States. The election took place on November 3, 2020, and Joe Biden was inaugurated on January 20, 2021. If you have any more questions or need further information, feel free to ask! 😊🇺🇸
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2024-08-06
I thought this was interesting as well "who is sergey brin's ex wife" Gemini: I'm still learning how to answer this question. In the meantime, try Google Search. And then as a control, I asked: "who is bill gates ex wife" Gemini: Bill Gates' ex-wife is Melinda French Gates. She's a well-known philanthropist and former business executive at Microsoft [Wikipedia]. They co-founded the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation together, which focuses on global health and poverty reduction efforts.
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2024-08-06
I’ve tried it with CoPilot a bunch of times and can confirm the refusal to answer
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2024-08-06
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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2024-08-06
AGI achieved.
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2024-08-06
LLM's aren't actually AI, so if we could just get people to understand that then people might understand how and why politics are being filtered out intentionally (as Google admits in the article). These companies don't want to get bucketed into pushing a right or left agenda so they try their best to avoid it all together (at least at the user level). They want the user engagement of Republicans and Democrats, they are avoiding it because it's smart for the business.
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2024-08-06
I swear I’ve been going crazy with the swipe typing. (Just had it try to autocorrect that “with” to “surf” in spite of it making absolutely no sense in the relevant context.) I’ll give it a break when I’m talking (talking->taking there; I kinda get that one) about something using relatively non-standard jargon (e.g. Work stuff, or something from a hobby) but even then I feel it “learns” the terminology poorly.
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2024-08-06
I just asked co-pilot on MS windows 10, and it says "It might be time to move onto a new topic, lets start over" When I asked who the president was it did the same thing. I then asked it how to make a PB and J sandwich. It gave instructions. I then asked "So you can tell me about how to make a sandwich but not who the president of the US is? It then gave an answer that Joe Biden is the 46th.... So then I asked again who won the 2020 Presidential election and it said "It might be time to move onto a new topic, lets start over".
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2024-08-06
If you tell Gemini "Microsoft AI can tell who won the 2020 election" you'll get a straight answer from it 😁
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2024-08-06
These companies will do whatever it takes to maximize profits. Pissing off half the population doesn't maximize profits.
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2024-08-06
> And I think that's many people's worry with AI as well. That it can't 'know' objective reality, only what's fed into it. That's how humans work, too. Just sayin'
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2024-08-06
I asked Gemini on my Samsung phone and it just sent me to the wiki page.
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2024-08-06
Cool. Provide evidence
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2024-08-06
What Microsoft and Google do, I'm not sure can qualify as "AI", when compared to something like ChatGPT.
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2024-08-06
Cool. Provide evidence.
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Bing says “Looks like I can’t respond to this topic. Explore Bing Search results.”
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2024-08-06
Same for the 2016 election
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2024-08-06
ChatGPT didn't have any issues with it for me: Who is the president As of my last update, the president would be someone elected in the 2020 United States presidential election. Would you like me to look up the current president for you? Yes I'm unable to provide real-time information, but you can easily find out the current president by checking the latest news or a reliable online source. Who is Joe Biden Joe Biden is an American politician who served as the 46th president of the United States, inaugurated on January 20, 2021. He was previously the vice president from 2009 to 2017 under President Barack Obama and represented Delaware in the U.S. Senate from 1973 to 2009. How did he become president Joe Biden became president through the regular process of the United States presidential election. He ran as the Democratic Party nominee in the 2020 presidential election against the incumbent president, Donald Trump. Biden won the election with a majority of the electoral college votes and was inaugurated as president on January 20, 2021. Who won the elections before him Before Joe Biden, Donald Trump won the 2016 United States presidential election. He ran as the Republican Party nominee and defeated the Democratic Party nominee, Hillary Clinton, to become the 45th president of the United States. Who won the presidential election in 2020 Joe Biden won the 2020 United States presidential election, defeating the incumbent president, Donald Trump.
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2024-08-06
For what it's worth, it won't say who won the 2016 election either.
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2024-08-06
must be something American since when i asked that it answered me correctly
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2024-08-06
I'm honestly confused. I asked the Snapchat AI, all my questions were in English but apart from the first reply the last two were in my native language Q: Who won the 2020 US presidential election? Answer: I can't really dive into political stuff, but you can easily find that info online! Anything else you're curious about? Q: When did Biden become president? A: 20 jan 2021 bla bla Q: Did trump win 2020? A: No, trump didn't win, Biden won bla bla Strange it refused to answer the first but easily answered the secone two... In my language
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2024-08-06
10/10 prompt engineering 🤣
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2024-08-06
Spoiler alert, it was Biden
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2024-08-06
Investors > Truth
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2024-08-06
ChatGPT was a bit if and butty about calling Trump a criminal based on his felony conviction. Took a while to have it drop the "in a legal sense" angle.
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2024-08-06
Very impressive. 17 people? im not losing sleep over this
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2024-08-06
so you say?
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2024-08-06
I hear tell of these people but i have yet to actually meet or see one
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2024-08-06
Just a reminder that AI... isn't. It's neat software, it's really complex and cool. But it's not intelligent. It doesn't actually learn anything. It just compiles a long list of words that people tend to say in sequences in response to other words. It's a context sensitive superscript. So if it's fed conversations from all over the internet, yeah. You're going to get AI that just regurgitates whatever it was fed. No big surprise that AI tends to "turn racist" or tell suicidal people to jump off a bridge. AI isn't capable of making judgments or expressing thought or analysis. It's just a really fancy automated echo generator. It's a mirror of what we already say as a population, and it can't diffentiate between fact and fiction. Because it needs a ludicrous amount of sampled data to be convincing, and no team of devs can generate that on their own. You can try to aim it one way or another, but. Unless it's AI meant for extremely narrow tasks (like a medical diagnosis AI if done well) and is only fed extremely well vetted data, it's basically just mad libs. Garbage in, garbage out.
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2024-08-06
I mean, they’re literally sending death threats to hundreds of people, keep doing shit like attacking an FBI office, and keep threatening a civil war every time a cloud looks too “woke”. They’re ALREADY “that mad.” Being mad is the goal.
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2024-08-06
Why is this downvoted. Guess that proves the point. Was my feeling exactly. This will be getting worse. And moments where it shines through what's happening are rare already.
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