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You should be able to first strike hacker groups
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2024-28-05
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Scrolled until the end, and could not find anyone trying to picture the consequences of a serious war NATO vs Russia (and who knows who else might join in...).
Cant really believe this, it is insane.
Are you guys really ready to give up everything? your life, your kids, everyone you love? Is everyone one of you really ready for it to prove the point?
EVERYTHING is on the line for EVERYONE of us, on both sides. And you all speak like we're talking about fuckin football.
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2024-28-05
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If Ukraine hits russia and kills innocent people ,there will be no Ukraine anymore. I hope some of you understand that.
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2024-28-05
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They don't, the just don't have their own weapons to do so
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2024-28-05
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U/technicallynotlying
Blocked me, like the other 2 cowards who engaged with me, and prevented me from responding so here is my response:
I never said I disagreed with a single thing. My beef was the commenter suggesting that Germany and USA, the two LARGEST contributors to war effort, are somehow “holding back” ?!!!
Kiss my ass to anyone who peddles that bullshit.
It’s always a narrative about how dinky countries putting up $5 are really pulling their weight and USA does fuckall. Even though in reality we have backstopped the entire nation of Ukraine economically ON TOP of supplying them basically unilaterally with military weapons and intelligence. While the $5 contribution went exactly as far as $5 goes.
You obviously didn’t read anything I said and just reacted here…
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2024-28-05
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That’s all fine and well, but Russia is known for their escalate to deescalate approach. As long as Ukraine is ready for what comes next, go full send.
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Not really. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c163kp93l6po is from May 3rd. I don't think it takes 3 weeks to program a Storm Shadow for a target from their list of "juicy things we need to hit as soon as we're allowed to" and fire it.
So either they're completely out of Storm Shadows, or there are no really juicy targets in Russia (*very* doubtful), or they haven't *actually* been given permission to use them in Russia.
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2024-28-05
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What would you rather the West do, continue to escalate until nuclear weapons are used? It's probable that a good percentage of Russian ICBM's and tactical nukes don't work, but at the numbers of working warheads fired "good percentage" still means "millions dead". There's no way to neutralize the nuclear threat, short of internal and total regime change. The world collectively held its breath when Gorbachev was brought down for exactly this reason.
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2024-28-05
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Why? Who's policy is this?
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2024-28-05
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They are complaining about that as well. Too many refineries being hit.
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2024-28-05
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You think there’s any impact if they attack a batallion? It’s a meat grinder, they’ll bring more people. Ukraine only way to succeed is to impact Russia’s ability to wage war, and that is targeting their manufacturing, supply chain and weaponry installations. The weapons they are allowed to use in Russian territory are ineffective to that purpose.
When you say “attacking cities” your mask falls off, FYI. If you wanna troll at least take it down a notch with the propaganda.
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2024-28-05
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You're getting down voted because reddit is full of children pretending to be adults that have no concept of what would come.
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2024-28-05
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I'm not picking on you specifically here, but this argument in general, it's pure baloney...
The point is, if the Ukraine supporting world gave Ukraine access to its fire power, tanks, missiles, planes and whatever else you want to include, but not it's actual boots on the ground personnel, BUT provided air support and an anti missile blanket over Ukraine itself, the Ukrainians are fully capable of raining hellfire both on the occupied territories and inside Russia positions were troops and equipment is being amassed. The whole point is to kick Russia out of Ukraine and keep them out by making any attempts utterly futile, backed by the western world, not to march on Moscow...
The argument that other commentators have made around the point of they would sacrifice Ukrainians as long as their OK are worse than evil, these are people like you and I at the end of the day, their lives are worth just as much as yours or mine. For all we know, we are already in world war 3, if supporting Ukraine now with everything we have saves lives in the long run, then it's idiotic not to.
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2024-28-05
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Okay, then I'm going to start kicking air, like this, and if any part of you should fill that air it's your own fault.
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2024-28-05
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Russia keeps zerg rushing while China is going heavy macro
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2024-28-05
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Unless trump invades NATO countries while teaming up with Russia (I hope that's unlikely)
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2024-28-05
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Yeah wtf honestly it’s so ridiculous. At this point if my tax dollars are going in the billions to support their war effort I want it to at least go to something that makes a difference.
Literally asking them to fight with one hand tied behind their back and for what? The enemy they face are committing war crimes on the daily but Ukraine is supposed to just take it.
Absurd.
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2024-28-05
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> The US has other security concerns other than Ukraine.
And the US is damaging all of those security concerns by being an ineffective ally to Ukraine so other allies fear they will run into similar limits on our help, and other adversaries feel emboldened by US caution.
Just plain-old winning in Ukraine would be a huge boost to all of our security interests everywhere.
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2024-28-05
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Let's inject a little realism here shall we? Every "world leader" (i.e. head's of state that are pro Liberal-Democracy) knows that if Russia wins in Ukraine, Putin will try this shit again and it will be a pain in the ass for them.
The big BIG negative of Liberal Democratic government is it becomes very hard to get shit done the moment various special interest groups have conflicting agendas, which is basically all the time. Which is what we're seeing happening with support for Ukraine.
But lets take a moment to remember why we like the Liberal Democracy form of governance so much shall we? Liberal Democratic governments do not launch massive invasions on each other now.
Come on now, say it with me, and say it loud: LIBERAL DEMOCRACTIC GOVERNMENTS DO NOT LAUNCH MASSIVE INVASIONS ON EACH OTHER.
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2024-29-05
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Or the slightly stronger military version: "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6".
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2024-29-05
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50 missiles a day to target all city infrastructure of Moscow and St. Petersburg and bring that kerch bridge down like yesterday!!
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2024-29-05
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Not that I think it’s necessarily a reason to back down, but Russia has also not attacked supply/logistical sites outside of Ukraine where weapons are staged and brought in. The thinking might that Russia might do so if western weapons start getting used inside Russia.
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2024-29-05
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You: “Just trigger the nukes already”
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Serious?
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2024-29-05
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Given how a lot of Russian weapons have worked, I'm not sure their nuclear weapons would actually work if called upon.
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2024-29-05
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Because it does matter?
German PzH2000, Marder and Leopard 2A6 have been used to push back Russians out of rightful Ukrainian territory. If Ukraine thought German Gepard, IRIS-T and Patriot protecting Ukraine from Russian drones, cruise missiles and planes - they could say so and refuse to take delivery.
But that is not the case - Ukraine doesn't seem to think German aid doesn't matter. German provided military aid has a real effect in saving thousands of Ukrainian lives and strengthening their ability to fight against Russian aggression in Ukraine.
Is Germany the only country where your standard of aid effectiveness is either 'wins the war single-handedly' or 'doesn't matter'?
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2024-29-05
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Not too worried about that. I'll be dead before I know what's happened with proximity to Faslane. Doubt it comes to that as it would lead to mad
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2024-29-05
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If they OK'd that their hypocrisy on Palestine would be even more obvious
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2024-29-05
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>Meanwhile, Russia is using drones from Iran, missles / shells from NK to fire at Ukraine for months, if not years now
Yeah, while ukraine got zero help from nowhere. Thanks for the tactical analysis.
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2024-29-05
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Throughout this entire war, the US has avoided being the first one to approve a weapon system or use case against Russia. It's not cowardice. It's MAD.
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2024-29-05
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Yeah I mean.. what’s the worst that can happen? Oh yeah, the destruction of our entire world.
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2024-29-05
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Dude, chill out, take a breather. I don't know why you're trying to cram Ukraine into this middle eastern shaped hole, but they're very different situations. The US ain't going to have boots on the ground until someone in NATO gets attacked.
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2024-29-05
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You’d think the US is afraid of russia. Stop looking so weak. Let them fight back.
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2024-29-05
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Calm down Netenyahu
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2024-29-05
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Yes it's different. Buzz bombs are actually useful in a war. ICBMs, in contrast, are useless, except for deterrent effect. They cannot be used to win a war, and in the case of Putin, all they provide him with an intimidation factor. When that is exhausted, they provide him with the means of national suicide. That's it. They solve no problems that Russia has, militarily speaking.
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2024-29-05
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Turns out, MAD only prevents strategic nuclear war, seems to be the main lesson we've learned from Ukraine. I agree that we're being foolish to believe that Russia would first strike if Ukraine got more aggressive with conventional tactics; MAD is still MAD.
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2024-29-05
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that you know of....
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2024-29-05
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Then that leaves the lesson that if you invade your neighbour, even with international condemnation and the West supporting the country you're trying to invade, you get territory out ot it. China will feel emboldened over Taiwan and they aren't the only ones.
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2024-29-05
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And now even Germany has given a mostly green light to hit Russia
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2024-29-05
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Well there is an angry Winnie the Pooh looking at east Taiwan from West Taiwan looking to cause some issues. He is also calling in his debt in Africa and Asia, so that's going to screw up global trade. There is the little dictator in NK looking to throw a tantrum. Then there is Iran who just lost a bunch of bigwigs, and is going to try and show how tuff they are
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2024-29-05
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Taiwan being an island is a bit different, but yeah
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2024-29-05
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Keep in mind Ukraine got rid of its long-range weapons in agreement with Russia and the US in the early 00s. According to the Budapest memorandum, Russia and USA were supposed to not invade Ukraine and protect it. Some of the long-range rockets were shipped to Russia and later were used to attack civilians in Ukraine.
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Not if they ended up banning the shipment of Cluster munitions through European ports as they are a banned weapon. But now that France has given its blessing, now even Scholtz has said fine they can hit military bases
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2024-29-05
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But it needed to be a major nation that was part of the EU, Hence why Germany also gave its permission a few hrs ago
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2024-29-05
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Britain has lost its standing since Brexit. It had to be a major EU nation. That meant either France or Germany, and now that France has given its blessing, a few hrs later Germany has given its.
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2024-29-05
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So what I’m hearing is it would be a shame if a few shipments of some very high tech, totally not made by the US missiles were to show up in Sweden or Finland.
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2024-29-05
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And it's all connected and ripples. Each European power who does say it, pressures others to change their stance.
And military is one of the few places where the UK's global standing hasn't been decimated by Brexit.
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2024-29-05
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Its almost like the goal is to not escalate the war to bring the US directly into it, and strategic ambiguity is part of diplomacy and has been for decades.
See Taiwan.
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2024-29-05
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And you think they’ll just take it? Or will they send the same back?
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2024-29-05
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I think that's a pipe dream, Russia, more specifically Putin, will never stop trying to rebuild the Russian empire.
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2024-29-05
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If you like. I was just thinking of all the apartment blocks that keep getting exploded when I read the "strike Ukraine" part.
If I have to pick one, I'll choose the comprehension deficit option please.
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Is the turbulence also because of climate change? Are these turbulent air pockets more prominent in summers than winters?
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2024-28-05
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Happened to me to a trip to Acapulco felt dying. Ya fucking plane plummeted because I tossed a hot air bubble that made the plane just drop altitude like do it where falling crazy shit was 14 att
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>What's going on up there in the lower atmosphere?
For people who didn't give a shit about climate change because it "doesn't affect them," maybe some of them will feel somewhat inconvenienced by this:
>Climate change is making clear air turbulence more common, says Williams, who has studied the rise. "In simple terms, climate change is increasing the temperature difference between the warm and cold air masses that collide to form the jet stream in the upper atmosphere," he says. "This effect is making the jet stream less stable and allowing more turbulence to break out."
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240524-severe-turbulence-climate-change-singapore-airlines
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2024-28-05
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Keep your god damn seat belt on. Hold your poop/pee if you can.
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2024-28-05
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Corporations like airlines you mean?
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2024-28-05
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Thanks man. I will
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2024-28-05
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It’s Reddit. Literally everything bad that happens is climate change. hilarious stuff
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2024-28-05
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Everyone around you finds you abrasive I'm sure
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2024-28-05
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That is basically what happened in 40k. Just with warp storms.
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2024-28-05
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Wtf is going on with all the planes??
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2024-28-05
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> Severity has increased substantially and will continue to do so.
Maybe. Maybe not. For one thing, there are more planes in the air than there ever has been. The odds of hitting turbulence are much greater. Imagine the same CAT existed at this location say 50 years ago in 1974. The chances of a plane hitting it are very low, because relatively few planes are in the sky.
Also, weather reporting and recording is probably more complete than it has been in the past. While it may not apply here, it could be part of the reason we're hearing about it more.
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2024-28-05
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That’s like saying you won’t be driving at all because there’s more and more potholes
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2024-28-05
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Where was the turbulence with the plane with the man who died? Was it also in Turkey?
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2024-28-05
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Why do you know this so thoroughly off the top of your head?
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2024-28-05
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I think this would mean only wealthy people would even have access to international travel
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2024-28-05
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Searching is hard. It’s okay though, I got you: https://www.perplexity.ai/search/Evidence-of-increased-e9vC_kspSvmkD6laYj27YA#0
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2024-28-05
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The “Turbulence forecast” app is also awesome for giving you a general idea of bumpy things will get on your specific flight.
Knowing what I’m up against helps me keep me a bit calmer as well.
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2024-28-05
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There is no billionaire in this world who can actually solve this problem. He can't change the mind of someone who wants to eat strawberrys from across the ocean when it's not even season. He cannot change the mind of someone who wants to buy a big ass pick-up instead of a compact car.
We must accept that it is our life style that is the problem.
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2024-28-05
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That is interesting but my point still stands and is valid. I never said it wasn’t increasing or the reason. It’s still sensationalism.
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2024-28-05
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This doesn’t make me feel better if I’m being honest
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And I am smort. You’re just a pedantic prick with no mates. Carry on buddy.
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> Recent research suggests that turbulence will increase in frequency and strength with climate change, and therefore, turbulence forecasting may become more important in the future.
Storer, Luke N. ; Williams, Paul D. ; Gill, Philip G.
Pure and Applied Geophysics, 2019-05, Vol.176 (5), p.2081-2095
then for clear air turbulence:
> We find clear evidence of large increases around the midlatitudes at aircraft cruising altitudes. For example, at an average point over the North Atlantic, the total annual duration of light‐or‐greater CAT increased by 17% from 466.5 hr in 1979 to 546.8 hr in 2020, with even larger relative changes for moderate‐or greater CAT (increasing by 37% from 70.0 to 96.1 hr) and severe‐or‐greater CAT (increasing by 55% from 17.7 to 27.4 hr)
An invisible form called clear‐air turbulence (CAT) is predicted to become more frequent because of climate change.
Prosser, Mark C. ; Williams, Paul D. ; Marlton, Graeme J. ; Harrison, R. Giles
Geophysical research letters, 2023-06, Vol.50 (11), p.n/a
and also:
> Anthropogenic climate change is expected to strengthen the vertical wind shears at aircraft cruising altitudes within the atmospheric jet streams. Such a strengthening would increase the prevalence of the shear instabilities that generate clear-air turbulence.
Williams, Paul D.
Advances in Atmospheric Sciences, 2017-05, Vol.34 (5), p.576-586
First 3 I could find, there were 8 in the list when I punched in 'cruising altitude turbulence and climate change' into the search for my specific library page, have fun.
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It’s the same thing basically. Obviously, turbulence can get pretty severe so always wear your seatbelt but there’s never been an accident caused by CAT en route.
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2024-28-05
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Why not both?
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2024-28-05
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Well for the time being, they’re the only ones who don’t have to deal with this all this awful and increasing turbulence as their Gulfstreams fly much higher than commercial airlines and as such, avoid most if not all, turbulence.
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2024-28-05
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The air itself is shaking us off
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2024-28-05
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We really are past the point of no return aren't we?
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2024-28-05
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Saw a post from somone familiar with the subject about how these conditions are difficult to detect/the systems grey them out as not your problem/below you on the radar when they can be.
So i susspect we'll just see more updated radars and softwares to deal with it
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A lot of people have explained it nicely, but the dumbed down summary is that climate change is going to create more and worse turbulence. At some point we will be buckled in for every flight at all times and there will be no services by flight attendants. We're also going to have to create new tools to identify turbulence, like a global LIDAR network that can detect particles moving at speed that might otherwise be invisible to the naked eye. Planes also have to have a networked weather alert system where turbulence hitting one plane is broadcast to all the others who might be flying into that area.
I hate flying now after experiencing a flight over the Alps with incredibly bad turbulence - bottles were smashing in the galley, wine was running down the aisle, the flight attendants were buckled into their seats and looking terrified, everybody was holding on to the headrests in front of them, people were crying and praying, and the it looked like the overheads were about to come down on us. I never want to go through that again, much less on every flight. We landed on one wheel, the wing a couple feet off the ground (at least that's what it looked like) until gravity brought the other two wheels down - I have no idea how we didn't go off the runway. I don't even want windows anymore, the wings were bouncing like they were made of rubber. Two hours of sheer terror. I never wanted to fly again.
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What is causing you to believe that turbulence won’t increase in intensity over the next decades?
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2024-28-05
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Or just 20 sports games or concerts at a 50,000 capacity arena.
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You are a meme.
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Why would you consider that a dumb take outside of a knee jerk reaction to reject anything climate change related?
Others have already posted a bit more information about why global warming would cause this, but really all you need is like 6th grade science understanding of "hot air rises" to understand that this is a feasible outcome of injecting more heat into our atmosphere. The idea that changing the amount of heat in our atmosphere could cause changes to the airflow patterns we are used to absolutely passes the initial sniff test.
Asking for more evidence is always a valid response, but just flatly calling this a dumb take reeks of extreme bias and/or scientific illiteracy.
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2024-28-05
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Flight attendants gonna be out of a job soon. Mark my words. Pretty soon you’ll sit on your seat and snack will already be there with one beverage and that’s it. Or you will be handed a box of snacks when boarding. Or maybe nothing at all. There will be No in flight service whatsoever. Watch 1-2 years tops. Another cost cutting measure by airlines. Turbulence will be blamed but really it’s just more corner cut cost cut. Surprised airlines don’t already have robot or automation for this sort of thing. More middle class lower class job disappearing.
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2024-29-05
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Driver's ed teacher here. Potholes are the cause of many accidents, especially with snow cover. It's super easy to go into a skid because you bombed through a pothole that came up suddenly or was full of snow.
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The difference is that France is 2 countries away from Russia, whereas Poland shares a border with them. Polish army needs every soldier at standby on their own land. They're also first in line if war with NATO breaks out, so there's much less incentive to provoking it compared to France.
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Cause I always trust TikTok as a news source
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As with anything involving Chinese claims, I'll believe it when it's undergone peer review and international trials. China likes to claim a lot and not deliver.
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Hopefully if it is true someone will return the favor and steal it lmao
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I would guess that
>creating islet-like cells from [human stem cell cultures](https://interestingengineering.com/health/potential-cure-for-diabetes-found-in-groundbreaking-stem-cell-study).
That part would be able to be patented.
Until it makes it through clinical testing and really works it doesn't matter
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>We know that European countries are hesitant to publicly call out the US.
Source? Because someone that goes back 25 years for an allegation of IP infringement is reaching pretty hard. Also You first claim Germans were complaining about a US companies violating IP rights and then claim European companies won't complain about US IP rights violations.
Which is it? Also the question was about Chinese IP not anyone else.
>You implied Chinese people have no novel IP.
Wrong you are putting words in my mouth. Go back up and actually read what I wrote. I don't accept you saying what you choose to dream I said.
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Sure, pal. When is the guy gonna “drown in a hot tub”?
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