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I've no doubt many people in the government are profiting. I just don't think it's the government's official position. As they have denied the existence of the tunnels in the article. Or at least said they destroyed them. I was wondering if it is know what groups operate them on Egyptian side
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2024-30-05
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Thanks I didn't know they were splintered from MB
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2024-30-05
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I’d rather cut my legs off.
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2024-30-05
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the crazy part is that Egypt is denying there are any tunnels under the border.
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2024-30-05
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I feel guilty laughing at that
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2024-30-05
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Good thing for them that ruzzia is supporting them, those Kh ASM’s would be especially deadly otherwise
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2024-30-05
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False equivalency. The bombing of Dresden, as well as with the war in Gaza, have clear practical aims. ISIS killing civilians has one aim: to spite the West without any practical motives.
To ignore the goal of an armed conflict while comparing is extremely bad faith.
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2024-30-05
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No
They took control of the Egypt - Gaza Border now
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2024-30-05
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I do, but I'm also not naive enough to think conflict doesn't exist.
Quite frankly it's amazing how much personal responsibility people are absolving Palestine for. Let's not forget how this started - it was a terrorist attack. You can't punch someone in the fact and then be upset when they respond.
Literally, none of this would be happening if it weren't for Palestine/Hamas committing a terrorist attack.
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2024-30-05
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Muslim brotherhood
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2024-30-05
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Big oof. You're mentality is exactly why Israel is losing support across the world.
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Kuwait recently dissolved its parliament for the next 4 years after revelations that the government had been infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood
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1. Russia deliberately target civilians only occasionally, since there are plenty military targets they need to take care of and their munition is not infinite.
2. Fighting is mostly done in the open, between a field and a treeline. There is some fighting done in cities, but those are evacuated.
3. The Ukrainian army protects civilians, it doesn't hide behind them. And definitely does not store munition in kindergartens.
4. Ukraine has anti-air defense to shoot Russian munition that targets civilian areas.
5. Ukraine population density is _much_ smaller.
Now, lets look at Mosul
1. Estimated anything between 6 000 to 12 000 combatants
2. Civilian loses anything between 6000 to 40 000.
So Mosul is between comparable (1:1) to worse (1:3 or even 1:6). Also people were able to evacuate and ISIL didn't fight like little babies hiding behind civilian population and more like classical military.
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2024-30-05
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If by 12 years you mean back to 2008, that math doesn't line up.
And I'd argue an exception for Trump, he's supported by straight up racism.
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2024-30-05
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Military conflict is now ''terrorist level organisation'' is it?
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2024-30-05
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Give me a number please. Just ballpark it
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2024-30-05
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Good. They should take over that land and let non jihadi Palestinian to live there.
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2024-30-05
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While true, the US tunnels generally don’t go through random blocks of desert - the vast majority are concentrated in a much smaller area near major urban border crossings.
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2024-30-05
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The Muslim brotherhood?
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Yea, the government that spends hundreds of millions per year combating insurgents, allows them.
Wow, they really let people without a brain on here now since Twitter died. They can't even construct a critical thought.
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2024-30-05
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Who even mentioned 2008?
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2024-30-05
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Here is short course to international law for you:
Before 70s 100% of collateral damage was acceptable to destroy military target.
Example: Military is hiding in school behind kids. It was perfectly acceptable to blow up entire school with kids.
Between 70s and Battle of Mosul: 80% of civil population dead, while destroying military targets = acceptable.
Currently: Israel is estimated 1:2 or even 1:1 collateral damage. For one military target 1-2 civilians dead.
Question: what is your realistic expectation towards collateral damage?
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The main pass for the Taliban entering Afghanistan from Pakistan was smaller than 14km, and the US still couldn't stop people just walking in with 24/7 air cover.
Egyptian govt spends hundreds of millions per year combating border security issues.
Not a single brain cell to be found by people here blaming everyone, but the problem maker.
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2024-30-05
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I'm waiting for you to tell me how Israel is acting at a level of terrorist organisation (obviously in your unbiased opinion where you evidently care about both sides!)
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I'm currently impressed with their 2:1 civilian casualty ratio, which is frankly unheard of in urban conflict, the global average is 9:1. War sucks, people die. But they are taking ample precautions to minimize civilian death. To claim they aren't is ignoring data and believing misinformation.
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I really really doubt that Egypt is intentionally tolerating them. I think if Egypt policies have shown anything than it is that all they want is not being drawn into this conflict. They absolutely do not give a fuck what HAMAS is doing in Israel / Palestine but they definitely want them to stop stay out of Egypt. Egypt already burned its fingers with them and it basically destroyed Egypts tourism sector.
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2024-30-05
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Don't bomb refuge camps? I don't know that seems pretty basic right?
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2024-30-05
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They bombed a refuge camp just yesterday.
There are plenty of videos of them shooting unarmed people, including women.
Number please
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2024-30-05
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Refugee camp is often a military target. Why wouldn't you bomb a military target?
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2024-30-05
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So the estimated membership of Hamas is about 20k. Forgive me for not really understanding your numbers. What civilian death toll would that equate to if every last one was killed
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2024-30-05
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Doesn't need to be arms either.
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2024-03-06
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Send in the suicide bomber's is his motto
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2024-30-05
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Pride flag makes it so you are unable to distinguish between sane and insane.
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2024-30-05
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You're objectively an idiot.
Bibles in the class promote belief in fairies and pedophilia.
You fine with that blanket statement as well?
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2024-30-05
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I have zero clue what you're talking about.
You're fighting against a figment of your imagination.
Here's the thing though, I don't have to pretend we're ever going to be friends or that you're a worthwhile human being.
You aren't. Likely your parents don't even care about your existence. You're just another mentally ill malcontent created by an education system dedicated to stanning for a political party rather than trying to get you to think critically.
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This is what happens when domestic politics (of any democracy) is encouraged and is allowed to radically polarise along social and identity lines.
But sure, let's deliberately use inflammatory rhetoric to pit demographics against each other, and finding the next "oppressed group" to put on a pedestal while trying to rapidly tear down and discard the established norms of society.
Plenty of historical precedent for that ending well.
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I'm distinguishing between you and sane just fine.
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He said while supporting Hamas.
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2024-30-05
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What he meant to say was, *Keep disrupting US elections*
They are the ones using Hamas as a proxy war cause they're too scared to have an open conflict themselves.
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2024-30-05
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I don't support Hamas, fuckwit.
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2024-30-05
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Ironic you mentioning figments of imagination.
Also, how very Christian of you degrade my life.
If your god is real, enjoy hell!
I'd measure my life against yours any day, you fucking moron.
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2024-30-05
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I don't believe your lie for a second. You absolutely support Hamas you lying piece of trash.
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2024-30-05
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I definitely heard some of these words before. But since I'm not a massive speaker the overall meaning is lost on me. Could you break it down in simpler words?
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It’s easy to grasp when you really think about it and come to understand that, fundamentally, they’re both motivated by a hatred of the West. That’s at the heart of all this.
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>Iranian authorities brutally cracked down on the “woman, life, freedom” protests sparked after the September 2022 death in morality police custody of Mahsa Jina Amini, an Iranian-Kurdish woman, killing hundreds and arresting thousands of protestors. Scores of activists, including human rights defenders, members of ethnic and religious minorities, and dissidents, remain in prison on vague national security charges or are serving sentences after grossly unfair trials. Security forces’ impunity is rampant, with no government investigations into their use of excessive and lethal force, torture, sexual assault, and other serious abuses. Authorities have expanded their efforts in enforcing abusive compulsory hijab laws. Security agencies have also targeted family members of those killed during the protests.
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>Security forces repressed widespread protests that erupted across the country in September 2022 with unlawful killing, torture, sexually assault, and enforced disappearances of protestors, including women and children, as part of a pattern of serious violations. Human rights groups are investigating the reported deaths of approximately 500 protestors, including at least 68 children. In the majority of cases, security forces reportedly shot the victims using various types of bullets.
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2024/country-chapters/iran
>These dissidents, like the thousands of political prisoners put to death by Iran in the past four-and-a-half decades, were killed in order to spread fear among an increasingly restless and defiant population. The more than 800 people reportedly executed there in 2023 was the highest per capita in the world. The rate has ramped up, and the usual international condemnations or efforts to engage Iran have not been effective enough to stop the carnage. Why? Because outside Iran, the political cost of the Islamic Republic’s crimes and repression is too insignificant to stop its leaders. So, they continue to kill.
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>There are limits to what activists inside Iran can do to stop the regime’s execution machine. After Ghobadlou’s execution, 61 women political prisoners in Evin Prison, including the anti-death penalty activist and 2023 Nobel Peace Laureate Narges Mohammadi, commenced a hunger strike, calling for the end of executions in Iran. But the prisoners’ sacrifices can only be effective if the international community supports their demand.
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>The world must show the Islamic Republic authorities that deliberately and slowly breaking the necks of 806 individuals — hanging is the official manner of execution — in one year is simply intolerable, and neither "business as usual," or diplomatic relations and engagement can continue. Iranians who are risking their very lives to oppose state violence deserve assurances from the international community that they are not on their own.
https://time.com/6590643/iran-executions/
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u know ur on the right path when the fking dictator of Iran, al-Qaeda and Hamas are telling u to keed going at it.
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Instead we're furious at this incompetent and highly corrupt government prolonging this war, resulting in the deaths of both Israelis and Palestinians.
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When a fanatical medieval butcher praises you, it’s time to reevaluate your movement.
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If you have the guy who executes LGBTQ people merely for existing rooting for you, perhaps you should look in the mirror and say "am I the baddie?"
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It’s not just universities. This is largely psy ops by Russia and China and has infected every part of society in some way.
Get on facebook or twitter or TikTok or YouTube antisemitism is everywhere and it’s not isolated to college students.
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Yeah, but only through a spiritualistic session.
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This 👆
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There are so many stupid and deluded young people rn
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This guy a fucking cooked! This cunt is … a total cunt, who approves of murder, rape and many injustices against women. Fuck this guy.
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lol they’re on the same side now, we’re definitely in bizarro world.
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2024-30-05
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No need to wonder. [Hamas literally laid out their long term plans less than a month after Oct 7th](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/how-hamas-aims-trap-israel-gaza-quagmire-2023-11-03/), and it seems like none of those kids read about it. Reuters too, which center-left as well. Not some kind of fringe right wing news source.
Their plan went perfectly until the most recent ceasefire agreement fell apart, as leadership in Israel (for its many faults) at least stays informed and sees through the obvious.
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University Protesting Students : Yes sir, right away sir!
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They are absolutely not an extension of those protests, 99% of the current protestors didn't even know the name Netanyahu until Oct. 7.
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Ahh yes advice from the good guy...
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Probably a fair point
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I’ve seen no evidence it has anything to do with “postmodernist” teaching which doesn’t even mean anything anyway
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It's almost as if muslims act in bad faith and use propaganda to sow discord and garner sympathy for their very clearly evil cause.
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Why are we surprised that Moscow - who co-owns the Hamas with Iran - has some influence, with at least individuals in key places if not with the regime as a whole, in Cairo?
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People still believe in it. The axis played its card too soon.
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I don’t believe the conflict is fundamentally about democracy, authoritarianism, or any particular ideology. Even if every country had identical political systems, the conflict would persist. It is driven by geopolitical security, economic interests, and the need for control.
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It used to be 100% what’s your point.
That statistic is skewed heavily by China
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You asked "In fact tell me a single non-western allied country that views China more evil" these are non western alligned countries who view China worse than the US. I gave you reasons why. This is a clear cut example of moving goal posts, ones which I keep meeting.
"you do not want to compare numbers if..."
Shall I? It was approx 950,000 South Koreans and around 1.5 million North Koreans. The war started after North Korea alongside China invaded into the South, as before Korea post ww2 Korea was divied up between Soviet Sphere and Western Sphere.
"Why are you only mentioning one side"
Because you keep asking the questions, don't like the answers then ask better questions instead of going a mile a minute to try and get a gotcha. Also which conflict do you want me to give numbers for? This isn't an own that you think it is dude.
"Who's by far the largest blah blah"
US then France, then Russia, then China, then Germany. How does this have anything to do with non western alligned countries having a more negative view of china over the US?
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And India
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Genocide despite the Palestinian population growing substantially in the past decade? Genocide despite Palestinian culture largely remaining the same? Genocide despite Israel stating they have no intention of a permanent occupation? Where is the genocide bit?
You're not going to respond at all, so I don't even know why I asked.
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If they're eager to invade Ukraine, let them die. The world doesn't need that kind of aggression.
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It's not them, I bet few of them are participating willingly. There's that madman though...
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2024-30-05
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You left your country to go shoot young men in another. No sympathy here.
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That's just wishful thinking.
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There are different grades of want.
Currently Russia offer $10000 bonus just for enlistment, which is more than the median yearly income, let alone the income of a young and probably not well-educated man.
Yes, they want to be there, but it's not like that they are there for an ideological reasons or for the enjoyment of fight.
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Couldn't wait to kill Ukrainians, gets killed instead.
Manipulation is a bitch.
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Are they really going "willingly" under those conditions tho? Cus that sounds like coercion to me. You cannot give consent under such a dynamic. Its kinda like saying most prostitutes volunteer to have sex willingly because they are getting paid. If you removed the artificial incentives, most of them wouldn't be so willing anymore.
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Russia already had a pretty messed up population pyramid right? They aren't exactly securing their future with this war, just creating more imbalance. It'll create decades of poverty and impact many generations. Not to forget the economic strain, social instability, etc. All for some land they already have an abundance of.
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"They didn't want to be here" was only an acceptable argument during the first few days of the invasion. Where it was conceivable, if improbable, that lowly riflemen were being kept in the dark about crossing the Ukranian border. They were doing exercises until they weren't. But two years later, it should be apparent to Russians that this war is big. Full scale big. Even with the oppressive censorship there, they know it. Anyone who volunteers for the Russian military at this point is aware of the situation they're signing up for.
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Work requirements:
1. A pulse
What do we expect from you:
1. Marching to the front after two weeks training.
Why should you work for us?
1. You get to see the world, currently- Ukraine.
2. You get a chance to use tanks, apc and guns ( for a while).
3. Free alcohol provided.
4. If you finish your term successfully you will receive a nice pay. ( if you come back).
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Exactly. Fuck those American veterans who returned without their limbs.
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If you think about it, its nowhere close to the same thing at all.
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Explain
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Well maybe take example of the [Euromaidan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan) or any other uprising ? Soviet Union fell so can Putins regime. No-one will do it for them, it has to be Russians no matter how hard it is.
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Exactly like that, either they do something or end up in the totalitarian society like NK. They cannot outsource it, the change, whatever it is, has to come from Russians
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That's why military around the world recruit teenagers. The kids don't know any better.
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No, correct comparison would be germans in ww2.
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Can’t wait to die to make another man rich
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Found trump admirer.
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I feel like Putin and the Russian population will only get the message if Moscow looks like Berlin 1945
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2024-30-05
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I’ll remember them. As terrorists willing to serve a terroristic state with a puny pathetic dictator as a ruler.
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Change can also come from doing more of the same. The country crumbles from the inside, the oligarchs fend from themselves while every other russian suffers more and more. In the end there’s not much of a country left. Haiti with nukes?
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You can’t morally or ethically defend what he’s doing but I‘d like to get another point of view across, which I recently heard in our public tv. Putin is politically cornered. Russia is about to become meaningless in Asia with a neighbor like China. His best chance is to become relevant (strategically or logistically) in Europe. This war is sadly not pointless from their side. I can understand his motivation a bit better since I heard this but his methods are still all wrong. I hope he faces justice when this is over.
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The OP said "You left your country to go shoot young men in another. " and I said "He was brainwashed and sent off to die." both of which are pretty close to what happened both in Vietnam and in countless other US deployments and wars abroad.
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Yep, 10-15 years ago when that would be much more easy they didn't listen to people warning of strong leader having to much power, now they are paying for it.
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Nah, go scorched earth. Dresden 1945
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