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Kicking people out of their homes so you can found a new country without their agreement sure seems like something that would be a good reason to start a war over if there ever was one.
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2024-31-05
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Capitalism or not it always comes down to human greed
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2024-31-05
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In 2023, Norway and Ireland both contributed ~$18M to UNRWA. Spain did $10M.
The US contributed $218M. 218>>18+18+10.
Every time I look at this, I think these countries need to 5x or 10x their contribution before they start getting all uppity how the rest of us should be supporting Palestine. I'd be happy to give Gazans their own country with clear negotiated borders if the world community never needed to give another dollar to UNRWA, and all the support came from their elected government. Then they can choose between rockets and poverty, or peace and prosperity.
We've really been awfully generous, almost naively so, about not including any strings with the aid to date. The least of which should be to avoid teaching kids that jihad against the West is great.
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2024-31-05
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To a degree, I wonder if they paid anyone to peddle their stuff, to stoke the flames
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2024-31-05
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No, its the morally righteous part that Im getting at.
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2024-31-05
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For like 5 days
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2024-31-05
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Clearly, the war can only end on Israel's terms, but I'm still confused on what their endgame is? I suppose it's unconditional annihilation of Hamas which is likely unattainable without creating humanitarian catastrophes if they haven't created them already (they have). I can't see a Palestinian population ever accepting Israeli rule at this point and a stable resolution where Israel controls everything is essentially unobtainable.
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2024-31-05
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Sorry, but F Hamas. I want the IDF to save the hostages and free gaza of Hamas. Until then, there can be no truce.
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2024-31-05
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Sometimes they even hit their own people.
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2024-31-05
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I think the settlements should be included as part of the deal - this should not be ruled by ideology. It's clearly a friction point, and clearly it's wrong to just take land, so it should be addressed as part of the package otherwise that package will fail. I think a settlement deal needs to include clear, contiguous borders for both sides which can be walled in and defended. None of this bullshit "all mine from river to sea" nonsense, that only encourages people to break the agreements, and settlers to act with impunity.
Palestinians seem to think such a grand claim puts them in a great position to bargain down, but they don't realize the sheer absurdity of this claim weakens even their legitimate, more reasonable claims. Oh sure you had a farm taken by settlers - was that part of your claim to Tel Aviv or would that be under your claim to Haifa? It's laughable and no wonder nobody's taking them seriously.
If they are smart, they'll realize they may have to even trade away land they have legitimate claims to, in order to protect what they can physically keep. Keeping the Nakba alive did more damage to their people than Israeli tanks ever did.
After an agreement, moving settlements beyond the borders should be an act of war, and should be considered the same as an invasion. Or they should have defined legal consequences which both Palestinian and Israeli sides can uphold.
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2024-31-05
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Too many people will have died before both groups of shitheads come to an agreement, if they do at all. The cost is already too damn high.
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2024-31-05
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I love how everyone in these comments thinks ALL is fair in war. I was taught about the horrors WW2 by the same people who are trying to convince me what’s happening in Gaza is justified. Weird. You’re all going to the hell that I believe in.
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2024-31-05
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Why is that garbage ass Country a US ally?
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2024-31-05
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Yeah, because they’re getting their asses kicked. Hamas will sign an agreement, build up their reserves, and than attack again. They’ve got this figured out and on a rinse and repeat cycle.
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2024-31-05
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Reuters has gone rotten. This is disgraceful.
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2024-31-05
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Nah, I have conscience, and I don't wanna see dead babies anymore. How many dead babies is enough for you to fill your blood thirst?
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2024-31-05
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Just cease existing you cunts
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2024-31-05
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Ah yes, the famous pro peace Arafat that started peaceful intifada
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2024-31-05
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This is like in Total War-Games when the AI only has one city left and still makes demands instead of surrender to save its people...so game devs are not stupid, its actually realistic it seems now..
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2024-31-05
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How is that remotely relevant? Why is Arafat being brought up at all? We’re supposed to be talking about Hamas
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2024-31-05
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Don't forget that they are all innocent women and children as well
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2024-31-05
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Because they have same mentality.
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2024-31-05
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What is a watermelon person
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2024-31-05
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>The key is much more that Israel has no conditions for negotiation. Because they could just stop firing and get the hostages in exchange for leaving the strip.
I think you are missing something, its not that if israel leaves they will get the hostages back. Its that if they leave the negotiations starts which means hamas will demands alot of terrorists in exchange for the hostages and who know what more.
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2024-31-05
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THEY USED THE FUCKING POST AGAIN 🥳🥳🥳🥳
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2024-31-05
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Why wait a few months? Days at most they'll wait
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2024-31-05
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You’d rape them back? Or burn their children also?
My religion teaches revenge and murder is bad, regardless of who does it. But people have different religions and this one justifies whatever this is. Cool.
I hate responses like yours because it’s evident you really haven’t put yourself in the situation. You just want to kill everyone in Gaza and that’s fine. Go do it yourself.
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2024-31-05
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In few month there will be Hamas left.
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2024-31-05
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Give progressives more props than that, I don't think anyone but the most privileged think that. Trump is fascism, any leftist or progressive won't necessarily like Biden, but the alternative is the end of America. I think you will find this election won't be that close in the end
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2024-31-05
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Release all the hostages and we can start the talks.
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2024-31-05
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I mean, the italics and punctuation were pretty clear.
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2024-31-05
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I think it's very hard for a population to recover from this and you need to remember that as long as Israel keeps expanding settlements in the West Bank then it's going to keep pissing off the Palestinians.
No matter if you believe that the settlements are okay or not, it's going to create animosity when they kick people out of their homes.
It's going to be very hard to convince people that feel like they're under attack to not produce weapons.
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2024-31-05
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Yup, they thought Hezbollah would pull a similar move, along with full on war mode in the West Bank and a massive rise of Israeli Arabs. I'm not sure if it was all just hope or if it was an actual plan that the other actors just pulled out of last second.
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2024-31-05
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I’m pretty sure it’s too late for that. It appears they’re gearing up to “finish the job” they started
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2024-31-05
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Don't believe them, no compromise, see it through to the end.
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2024-31-05
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They're like this with anyone they dislike - Israel, the US/France/UK sometimes, Milei in Argentina, etc.
Until people realize what the general media is and what their agendas are, you're not going to see how similar they are to state propaganda.
It's like, I was watching a video about news reporting from the Walter Cronkite days. They were objective on domestic news and news about allies.
But against the Soviet Union? It was propaganda made to showcase how bad and evil they were (and not that they weren't).
Today? It's turned inwards by radical activist types who have taken hold of these institutions. Again, hence, the objectivity aspect is being neutered when, in reality, if it's something to strive for.....strive for it on all fronts, right? Make journalism respectable
Instead, you have the NY Times chairman talking about how they no longer strive for objectivity, as if it's a good thing. Many journalists believe this is the correct way to run things. They're not journalists. They're propagandists.
Anyway, I think we're due for the end of the liberal order soon due to the rot in our institutions so I don't think it matters too much.
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2024-31-05
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What do you think they were doing (for this article)?
Eating a pizza and playing Xbox?!?
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2024-31-05
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About Hamas and Israel. Who could be?
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2024-31-05
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As far as I'm aware there's no active peace talks right now...
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2024-31-05
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Israel pulls Palestinians out of their homes and steal them with no recourse. They keep them under their boot. When you abuse someone for so long eventually they snap and retaliate. Hamas was only able to come to power by taking advantage of the situation caused by Israel's decades long mistreatment of Palestine. So now heinous terrorists are in charge there.
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2024-31-05
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>Probably also indoctrinated by being bombed and seeing their cities destroyed tbqh. All I'm saying is Hamas recruiter has to be the easiest job lately
Tell me you believe propaganda without telling me you believe propaganda. Israelis literally just conducted the biggest military operation in history in terms of civilian evacuation, that was said to be impossible to do.
And why are they doing it ? Because a group of terrorist killed hundreds of their own people and they need to take military action to ensure it doesn't happen again. Oh but jews evil and rule the world.
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2024-31-05
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Why change the topic?
You asked for proof of oct 7 atrocities, from sources that were not provided by the IDF, and you were provided proof that hamas itself released. Instead of acknowledging that you went straight to "well what about israel?".
Do you or do you not acknowledge the atrocities of hamas on oct 7 the above person talked about?
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2024-31-05
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Sounds like they just want some time to rebuild their terrorist network
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2024-31-05
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Otherwise known as “oops they found the tunnels”
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2024-31-05
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The media is pro terrorist
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2024-31-05
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I wonder what their definition of "occupation" is
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2024-31-05
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Enough time to rearm? No thanks.
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Did you even read the question
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2024-30-05
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[Because fuck um, that's why!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUzq8Gd5e_w)
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2024-30-05
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It always comes with a price and that price is Ukrainian lives
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2024-30-05
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Russian troll here folks
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2024-30-05
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Putin will do this as soon as he realizes he has lost Crimea. It will force his armies to fight to escape and die trying. Surrendering soldiers know they won't have a chance to collect compensation, and it fits Putin's plan. Any attempts by Ukraine to repatriate the captured will be blocked because those committing treason will be abandoned by their own country and threatened with punishment for said treason. Now you have a people without a nationality, and a potential major issue for a greater authority like the UN. Putin is a greasy conniving little bastard, and he will continue with a scorched earth plan against his own people. The next time Putin taps his head it will be to indicate where the bullet should enter.
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2024-30-05
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The bigger problem as I see it is that the population has been almost entirely supplanted by Russians as most all of the loyal Ukrainians have long since left.
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2024-30-05
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Defending yourself against an aggressor who wants to genocide your nation is anti-war.
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2024-30-05
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True, but the titles does not disagree. It says there was a Russian base, IN crimea.
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2024-30-05
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Don't skip the cardio.
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2024-30-05
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Go outside dude.
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2024-30-05
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It’s important to give the Russian troops a route to flee by.
Otherwise they end up fighting that much harder.
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2024-30-05
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Surely, those installed smoke emitters will save the bridge lol where'd it go!!!! Ahhh!
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2024-31-05
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Like russia didn't have missiles on their own border? Lol
Please remind me the last time a nato country invaded russia. Or even a country that borders russia?
Have any evidence of russia striving for peace?
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2024-31-05
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God damn, what he said 👆🏻
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2024-31-05
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> Ukraine will be dealing with this Russian mess for decades.
Russia will be dealing with decades of generational hate they have now sown into young Ukrainians.
And as told by history, this usually results in an uptick in stochastic terrorism against what ever entity was dumb enough to cause it.
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2024-31-05
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Beach head? Jesus. Ukraine doesn’t have a navy, let alone a way to achieve an amphibious landing… which are *extremely risky operations* if they have the slightest inclination you are coming.
DDay in WWII was largely achieved with a massive feint and using Hitler’s tendency to override his generals to the Allie’s advantage, along with Hitler’s respect for Patton… Patton was in charge of the “decoy” army that was to land in western France (there was no landing in western France). The two beaches that were a nightmare were so because German regular troops just so happened to be passing by as the paratroopers were landing, and the Germans knew too late where the landing was actually happening.
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2024-31-05
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Hooray! Lets all chant in psychotic unison at the death and suffering of innocent civilians. Oh wait, reddits already doing that
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2024-31-05
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Probably ascension in the US, been having to do paper charting for a little while now
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2024-31-05
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Yes im sure putin will nuke a a region in the edge of a country instead of the capitol, how more stupid can u be?
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2024-31-05
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You have to walk a mile in another mans moccasins
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2024-31-05
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More like a fancy temporary encampment
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2024-31-05
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You'd probably like the hard steps theoretical solution to the fermi paradox then. There's a lot of those vibes.
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2024-31-05
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And tomorrow they may be filled with explosives. Only fools think the enemy will not adapt.
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2024-31-05
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That’s fair.
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2024-31-05
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Russia: "they can't fight back, that's unfair! Time to threaten everyone else with nuclear Armageddon again..."
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2024-31-05
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For themselves, not Russia.
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2024-31-05
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Because it's under repair...
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2024-31-05
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Who poisoned your waterhole, friend?
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2024-31-05
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Russia hasn't even properly called for general mobilization of their country, so they still have the means to increase their numbers on the ground. They're still a country of 144 million people.
And it's a really bad idea to underestimate a country's defense capabilities when nukes are on the table. It doesn't matter that most of Russia is empty land, or that North Korea is a hermit kingdom with barely any contact to the outside world. Only one missile has to be real for a whole city to disappear.
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2024-31-05
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Um... I'm trying to figure this out, do you really think that the US/NATO was installing nuclear missile silos in Ukraine?
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2024-31-05
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I don’t think it. It’s a fact. It happened.
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2024-31-05
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Lol. Confirmed. Спасибо
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2024-31-05
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Wu-Tang is for the kids…
…And delivering full on Kung-Fu for terrorists committing war crimes.
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2024-01-06
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That's exactly the kind of shit a stooge would say.
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Hey hey hey you leave poutine out of this! 😠
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2024-30-05
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Approved special military operations
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2024-30-05
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Yeah, I think it's been more about how to play it than the will not being there.
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2024-30-05
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Well I guess it’s not a secret now!
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2024-30-05
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And people said Trump was going to lead us into World War 3 if elected. Fear mongered and gaslighted people relentlessly using the news and social media.
Yet here we are under Biden fighting 2 wars with everything from tanks, planes, and guns.
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2024-30-05
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This is bad. Now, Russia will justify the attack on the supply lines of US-made weapons making their way to Ukraine.
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2024-30-05
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Also only 2 days ago Zelenskyy expressed his frustration that Ukraine could see more Russian troops gathering over the border and complained they couldn't do anything about it. So this is a very recent thing.
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2024-30-05
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Stop snitchin’ motherfuckers!
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2024-30-05
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It's not just US weapons. It's any weapon given to Ukraine by a foreign country; those countries attach conditions to their use. As to why, it's because the US and NATO countries want to make sure the Russian invasion doesn't succeed in its goals, but at the same time they don't want the process of doing that to lead to an escalation into World War 3. Which could very easily happen if Russia decided that attacks on its territory by US/British/French/NATO weapons was tantamount to a declaration of war. Which, by the way, may still happen.
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I think it makes a little more sense if you think about this war as Ukraine vs Putin than Ukraine vs Russians. A lot of the soldiers on the Russian side are conscripts and prisoners. We don't *want* to kill a bunch of people who are being pushed forward at gunpoint. We *want* to get Putin to fuck off with military expansion.
I agree this policy has taken way too long to come to fruition, but at least this is a strong signal that to Putin that _any_ amassment of troops is at risk at getting BTFU. We're just kinda at that point.
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They shouldnt, but because they are afraid of not getting more they have to ask and use them in accordance to how the supplier says.
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2024-30-05
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Letting Ukraine defend themselves against their invader is not wanting the war to get bigger. The only country who wants this war is Russia and they can end it right now by leaving Ukraine.
Russia camps across their border and shoots into Ukraine. Of course Ukraine should be allowed to fire back.
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Yes, a lot of people seem to want it or at least don't mind it. I assume they are under the illusion that if the war gets bigger (in WW3 scale for example), it won't affect them or their loved ones. Some might even severely overestimate their bravery if the war does eventually reach their doorstep.
Having said that, i also have to admit that it is reasonable for Ukraine to have to use weapons inside Russian territory in order to be able to successfully defend itself. I suppose we 'll have to wait and see how things turn out.
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2024-30-05
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Clickbait gonna bait
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2024-30-05
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At least FOX News will have something to report on tonight. I wonder if there was anything else in the news today?
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2024-30-05
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WW3 would have to involve two major powers. Fighting Russia is like fighting Iraqi army in 1992, the only difference is that they have nukes. Good news though, nukes cant win wars, so no reason to use them. We've had 100+ wars with nations that have nukes in the last 80 years... no one used nukes then, no one will use nukes now.
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