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What I’d love to see is a No Fly Zone between Ukraine and the Belarusian/Russian border for humanitarian reasons. The Russians can make up whatever excuse they want, they are indiscriminately killing civilians and it needs to stop. The UN -should- be leading this, but it would have to be NATO/EU-led, as Russia and China would use their veto on the Security Council and squash it. Which is even more outrageous. The UN will never get better unless the whole veto power thing gets fixed. A system where a head of state can just invade another UN member, and then veto every effort at the UN (who represents the community of nations) to address it, is fucked up. While they’re at it, they should do the same thing and establish a no fly over in Israel. What Hamas did was evil, and they need to be brought to justice, but carpet bombing whole cities (and then the tent cities when those were all gone) is morally reprehensible and doesn’t work as a military strategy. It is destabilizing an already fragile situation in the region, and it flies in the face of international humanitarian law. It’s a deeply hurt people acting out of fear and hate (this is beyond angry).
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2024-01-06
Concerning!
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2024-01-06
The CIA maybe but enlisted special forces in uni. I think not. Not in active combat. Training maybe, but my understanding is all the training was done in Europe or the US. The blowback would be high and a propaganda victory for Vlad if discovered.
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2024-01-06
Shit is getting real real fast . They turning the heat up on Putin. Slow boiled his dumb ass.
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2024-01-06
No but we could send in stealth bombers and claim they were UFOs. But anything like that is playing with fire.
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2024-01-06
We tried that and his plane crashed ooops.
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2024-01-06
Such an under valued take
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2024-01-06
It would still be quite funny to observe the reaction in the Russian media when they have been falsely accusing the west of this for a couple years.  We’ve all been there as kids, or seen it again as parents - “no mum I was lying about it before but this time he really did do…” a chefs kiss of a life lesson.  Fuck Russia.
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2024-01-06
Are you willing to bet your family on that. Cause if nukes start flying that is what you would be doing. Or maybe a nuke would accidentally explode beyond the 12 mile limit. A 100 mega ton nuke that would create a tidal wave 200 feet high that would wash over everything up to the Appalachian mountains. Bye bye East Coast. Nuke aren't anything to play around with. I was taught in elementary school how to hide under the desk grab my knees and kiss your ass goodbye. That kinda thing sticks with you. Believe me.
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2024-01-06
This should have been done two years ago!
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2024-01-06
Die about it.
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2024-01-06
Bullshit. It's a war against Putin. The Russian public, at least a large percent of them want nothing to do with this war. I know because I talk to them. Not all of them lol.......but I get the gist from my buddies over there. They want out....out of the war....out of Russia ...other than the war there biggest complaint is that most of the hot chicks are over here dancing in our strip clubs. Not all but a lot
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2024-01-06
China is biding it's time. Do you think China really wants Taiwan. Maybe. But my intuition tells me that China sees a wounded Russian Bear that has occupied former Chinese territory in eastern Siberia since the Czars. The Chinese call them the unequal treaty's. Meaning that the were signed at the point of a gun. China has been waiting for a long time to get that land back. They already have Chinese "workers" in Siberia because the Russians can't get anybody not in jail or in the army to go there. The Chinese just published a map that listed the Russian cities with their previous Chinese names. Prediction: China takes advantage of a wounded Russia and takes the low hanging fruit before they take on the US/Japan/Phil/Australia/Thailand/ Vietnam over Formosa and the south china sea. You watch. But just my opinion.
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2024-01-06
Seems ridiculous that we can shoot down Iranian drones launched at Israel, but we can't do the same for Ukraine? Don't debate it, just order it. It's also not the first time missiles and drones have hit both Romania and Poland.
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2024-01-06
Just. Do. It.
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2024-31-05
The only thing that scares me is ww3, What if putin decides to push the button to send nukes or sending an invasion🤔
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It's worse than that. He tackles the wrong guy, which enables the attacker to stab him in the neck. Meanwhile around 10 other police are just standing 3 meters away, afraid to engage, looking on confused. One policeman shoots the attacker only after he stabbed the tackling policeman twice in the neck. Then the civilian who got tackled secures the knife while the police are still confused. Just pathetic performance from the police all around. They reacted the same way you'd expect random bystanders to react.
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2024-31-05
Are you implying violent islamists belong in europe? 
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2024-31-05
Na, it’s about strengthening prejudice, so that Muslims will be secluded from society and easier to recruit for their extremist cause
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2024-31-05
Oh please. Give me a break with that bs. 1500 women were sexually assaulted by migrants on New Year’s Eve in Koln. You know this but are hiding your head in the sand or are an enabler.
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2024-31-05
It’s not irony to anyone but westerners who think these people aren’t serious.
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2024-31-05
Waste of money
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2024-31-05
Nah. 
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2024-31-05
Not the mention the police officer he stabs in the back and neck looooool that’s literally attempted murder x 2
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2024-31-05
Muslims self-seclude from society. It happens all over Europe, its why there are so many integration issues. source : ex-muslim
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2024-31-05
Im not saying there isn’t a problem with migrants that are not properly integrated. I’m asking when we have been safe. There’s enough white men doing shit to women too.
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2024-31-05
Exactly, the guy who wants Muslims to be condemned even more goes to the Islam demonstration first, claiming that they are worse than the AfD and that such demonstrations should be banned - then comes back and stabs Stürzenberger to provoke even more of these demonstrations? Thats some mental Gymnastics my guy.
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2024-31-05
Why comparison with hitler then? 
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2024-31-05
"Attempted murder is fine if you're not very good at it"
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2024-31-05
Did he not stab 3 people? What kind of headline is this yikes.
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2024-31-05
This is the correct answer. Inciting more hatred of Islam makes it easier to indoctrinate people into the 'fight'. And it's monstrously effective, too.
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2024-31-05
All the power to the idea for the extremist thunderdome, but the attacker also stabbed the neck of a policeman from behind and wanted to take as many with him as possible after the initial victim got away. Thats the endgame-lvl of rabid terrorism.
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2024-31-05
Dang, I read he was shot and hoped he was kaput.
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2024-31-05
“Berlin correspondent who has investigated anti-vaxxers and COVID treatment practices, reported on refugee camps and covered warlords' trials in The Hague.” Yeah man, completely nonpartisan. /s
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2024-31-05
The headline is accurate and the article itself is as neutral as you could write that (you know, the way news are supposed to be reported) and doesn't make any assumptions about the motives for the attack.
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2024-31-05
The other policemen panicked and froze up, no one else had their gun drawn, they just stood there and screamed. If that Mediterranean looking officer didn’t shoot, atleast a couple more people would be dead.
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2024-31-05
I'm going out on a limb here. I doubt Skybet would even give me odds on him not being one.
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2024-31-05
Because "far" right conversations are the only ones you're allowed to be even slightly critical of Islam and it's followers perhaps?
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2024-31-05
Child marriage is as [American](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States) as apple pie. This is more of a problem related to backwards, rural, religious communities, regardless of the specific religion.
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2024-31-05
I’m not going to get involved in a debate around semantics and will take this as your concession to a rational debate. A group of people in the region that have their own unique history, culture, and national identity.  What’s insane is people are denying this and their right to self determination… Imagine denying an entire group of people exist because of an ideological belief. Yikes
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2024-31-05
They will. There is a reason why the PVV here in the Netherlands got the most votes.
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2024-31-05
I am immigrant from east asia with my gf (legally + highly skilled workers). she is not afraid to go outside alone because of the white german men that occasionally show signs of racism with eyes or what not, or the german youth with the western tiktok hair shouting loud on the streets. she is afraid to go outside because of a certain population that has appeared here last couple of years. the police shows up in our neighborhood more often and pretty much always you can see they are dealing with a specific group of people again. we already saw them with knives around, even the KIDS during the broad daylight!!. one day some german kid was being STRANGLED in front of our REWE by a gang of these kids, I went to help him and the arab kid was very angry that I made him stop as if I was in the fault! our apartment complex front door window was smashed not too long ago, not sure if something was stolen. we are living in the area with one of the lower crime rates in the city, we checked the stats before moving here some years ago. the german men can be stupid, but they are 'mostly' harmless. with the others...well we don't feel safe any more
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2024-31-05
Truly two groups fighting over their preferred flavor of authoritarianism
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2024-31-05
You know what, I'm happy to take the L if I'm wrong, but as a gambling man I reckon I've got this one right.
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2024-31-05
It's why I don't get how people here in the Netherlands acted surprised when the PVV got the most votes or why they act surprised when AfD keeps getting more support.
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2024-31-05
I'm so tired of the media casting everything they disagree with as "far" right.
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2024-31-05
Maybe not make the situation worse at a bare minimum?
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2024-31-05
While it is on the people in charge that things are going to shit a even more concerning problem is the brainwashed imbecile population that endorses this fucking bullshit.
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2024-31-05
Everything is far right these days.
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2024-31-05
Sorry, wishful thinking on my part. I saw "shot" and assumed "dead". A childhood of 80's TV taught me that a single gunshot kills you.
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2024-31-05
Oh okay so you just assumed got ya
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2024-31-05
I have a friend who only prays three times a day, because he feels bad about keeping up with it but doesn’t have the time/energy to pray 5. He knows drugs and alcohol are haram, but he still uses them socially from time to time. He ignores riba, manages investment properties. He knows he shouldn’t eat pork but I mean, who can resist good BBQ? Just because you haven’t met them, doesn’t mean there’s no such thing as moderate Muslims. There are millions of Muslims around the world who still believe, and do their best, but are half assed about their religion just like Christmas and Easter Catholics. It isn’t an all or nothing proposition like you’ve been led to believe.
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2024-31-05
Everything that isn't pro-immigration and pro-Islam is being labelled far-right.
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2024-31-05
How? It's exactly what happened. Do you know more than everyone else?
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2024-31-05
That's why I used the term "Islamists" and not "Muslims." However, almost a third of Muslims in Europe hold opinions that are completely incompatible with the prevailing European mindset, and wish Europeans adjust to their way of life: Just a quick example: https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2013/04/gsi2-overview-6.png
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2024-31-05
Yeah like the whole of europe because one theyre starting to feel and the other one is baked in culture. Ireland did have a few incidents with immigrants killing kids as of late. That put them at a contradiction of having pro deportation protests while defending a culture that they deem incompatible with their own. Thats all im saying. Europe will europe..
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2024-31-05
I didn't read about it on Reuters, I read a different news story. Your point remains valid though, I very much missed the "shot but not fatally" angle that EVERY news report has conveyed.
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2024-31-05
Yeah I do, in general an average Muslim holds views that would be considered fantical if found in a Christian
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2024-31-05
Well, yeah, Reuters knows it hurts their cause The media is representative of a certain establishment and they are deathly afraid of losing power
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2024-31-05
"Also, even if you go fuck it and vote for them, you can vote them out in 4 more years. They can't destroy a country in that time." Just yesterday I heard on a talk show from some old dude "we voted for them in protest, nobody knew how bad it would turn out..." You can imagine who I am talking about. If there is a survey and they ask me, I would tell them AfD in a heartbeat. I would never be so stupid to actually vote for them. I hope you are right and that politicians actually pick up on this and do something, but what I see is that the more the AfD gets popular, the more other parties try to distance themselves on every issue the AfD raises, now even the CDU is considered far right by some. What I mean is, I fear they will just double down on their rhetoric, and then we will come to a point where it's either too late, or people will have to vote AfD for something to happen.
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Or maybe they arrive on scene, don't understand a thing of what's happening, see people fighting on the ground and having no idea a knife is involved ? Remember that those cops just arrived on a situation that began like 20 seconds ago, they go in blind. Also, for the police, they don't know the guy in blue is not dangerous. They don't know if the guy with the knife have allies is this situation. It's easy to tell when you have all the context and time to think without any stress. It's not when you have less than 10 seconds to watch, process and react accordingly in a high stress situation.
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2024-31-05
This was reposted from r/europe where all the Nazis convene, they don't care about being objectively true, they will not agree with us.
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2024-31-05
Charlie Hebdo-style has stopped what exactly? Their cartoons are still quite offensive and anti-Islam. I don't think there's been another portrayal of the Islamic prophet but I don't track it that close. (I support their right to free expression without endorsing the content. I'm mostly curious what actions they've actually stopped.)
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2024-31-05
Bozos like you are the reason there will never be any actual change in policing or politics. You excuse incompetence, and try to justify incompetence. The police fucked up and people got seriously injured as a result…
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2024-31-05
The stats are the following for rape - 98% men - 80% Norwegian citizens - 68% born in Norway. Immigrants are over-represented, but 80% where is that number from? Source: https://www.regjeringen.no/contentassets/1469f9bedad1476aadb0369ee899ab65/handlingsplan-mot-voldtekt-20192022.pdf
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2024-31-05
Wow what a twisted title.
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2024-31-05
I've seen the video. Civilians immediately understood what is going on and proceeded to restrain the attacker. Police were first confused, then afraid to engage, managed to get one of theirs stabbed and then shot attacker and arrested the wrong people. If the civilians are more helpful than the police, why have police at all?
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2024-31-05
Why would you hope that he's dead? With him alive, they might at least pull some information out of him, see if they can find a network and stop other attacks early.
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2024-31-05
If he's willing to try murder people based on what some old fairytale says, I don't think the potential rise of the far right is on his mind much.
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2024-31-05
OP misspelled the title, terrorist attacks group of people expressing their freedom of speach, and gets exactly what he deserves Edit just to say, islam is not a friend, but rather an enemy (notice i said islam, not muslims), enemy which is designed to oppress, persecute and kill people who say any little thing against it. All of europe is embracing it with open arms, that is a big big BIG mistake
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2024-31-05
That cop handled the situation pretty bad. Going to pin the victim down and letting the aggressor get him when the aggressor was already held down.
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2024-31-05
I still think you are trying to stuff very ancient prejudice into post-Enlightement Western political categories, sorry. The very idea of left and right only developed after the French Revolution, religious fundamentalism is much older than that and also way more widespread around the globe, even in places with totally non-Western political structure. Imagine it the other way round, if someone from the 7th century classified modern Nazis as a special kind of heresy, that would be weird. It is tempting to reduce the whole political spectrum onto one neat axis or even binary categories, but it is also misleading. The ideological world of humanity is too diverse to be reduced like that.
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>such different things  What are the “things”? >If you're trying to fix the wrong problem What exactly is the “problem”?  We’re all saying that it’s the same problem, which is right wing extremism, and this right wing extremism is the same, regardless of skin colour or religion. Like how murder is murder, regardless of skin colour or religion.  Is there a reason you think, for right wing extremism, we need to categorise things differently based on skin colour and religion? 
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Decades of Muslim migration in Europe has shown, that a lot of people with Muslim background don’t integrate too well into western society. Just look at France, Belgium, Germany as examples. It’s not even the extreme islamists, they’ve formed whole parallel societies. 
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Any Islam for that matter. And whole Europe please, not only west.
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2024-31-05
More like one idiot met another group of idiots, and exactly what you'd expect ensued. It's a catch-22 trying to deal with this type of shit. Racists spread hateful rhetoric, hateful rhetoric incites violence, violent actions reinforce their hateful biases.
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I've been to several demonstrations in the riot control force, so I've a similar training for what he should have. He broke formation, went flying in an american football-like tackle, didn't give time to his mates to react, which triggered them to have to respond with fire... In all terms of police work, what he did was a disgrace, add to it if he wasn't politically motivated and took advantage of the situation.
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2024-31-05
As a Muslim myself even I voted for the pvv. The migrants of this era are not the same as my grandparents who came here to actually work. They specifically say they just want to be taken care off and never work. Society does not need them.
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2024-31-05
“Alright, somebody/anybody, give me a place!” “THE OFFICE OF CHARLIE HEBDO.”
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2024-31-05
i dont think theres anything to assume about a radical islamist killing two people at an anti islamic demo
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> Critic of Islam attacked by man that clearly looks Islamic. It's common sense to assume it's raining if you're getting wet from water falling from the sky. You apologists are hilarious. "Looks islamic" is peak lazy racism lol. (There's over a *billion* muslims worldwide. 'Looks islamic' lazily engages with the literal most lazy racist stereotypes.) > /r/thathappened You say, unironically, while spewing lazy racism.
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2024-31-05
Well how dare that white German stop the Muslim expressing his culture, what a bigot that German is!!
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2024-31-05
People like you are so disingenuous, islamic religious motivated terror attack #123214: "ALL RELGIONS ARE LE BAD RIGHT FELLOW REDDITORS!>!"
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Oh, so you dont know. There is nothing unique about this group of pepole. The name come from the bible! It is a name of a nation of pirates called פלשתים in Hebrew. Its mean “those who invade “ . Afterwards the territory they occupied became known as Palestine or in Hebrew פלשתינה, the British called whole the territory of Israel Palestine in mistake or on purpose. And it was known since then as Palestine and by others as israel. The arabs in israel are original from many different tribes with different cultures. So nothing unique either. Some of them were ancestors of other invaders and empires over the course of history. So are they want to be called after a nation of pirate invaders?
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NoT aLl MeN
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While I generally agree, the point is that the discussion is "Islam vs. Far Right", then when people say "Islam bad" other people say "but the far right crime!", but actually far right crimes are committed by Muslims, too. It's about mudding the water. I hope I got the point across, English is my second language and I'm really tired at the moment.
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Obviously for fuck sake. Read the article, understand what happened.
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"Conservatism" in general has no place anywhere. Both of these groups want the same theocracy, they just can't agree on who gets to wear the jackboots.
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2024-31-05
Those aren't riot police, there was no formation to break. They are regular patrol officers.
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2024-31-05
Look up the last 20 terror attacks in the UK, 18 of them were from Muslims, in a country where they aren't even the majority (yet). But sure, try use and use phrases you don't understand like "confirmation bias" if that helps you feel smart.
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Only one thing can be the worst at a time, thats how it works. It’s not “both sides” rhetoric, because there’s a true, real, nonreligious option, and atheists don’t protest clinics giving out healthcare or threaten to behead comic artists.
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2024-31-05
the west's tolerance of Saudi-Arabia is the single greatest geopolitical fuck-up of this era.
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Moderate Islam is no worse than moderate Christianity.
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Hold on a second; wanting to limit immigration from a region of the world that has proven to have a difficult time with assimilating to their new host countries is a nazi policy? This is the issue with you guys. When you call everything a nazi policy, nobody will take you seriously when you are calling out an actual Nazi policy.
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2024-31-05
What if they wanted tens of thousands of dead civilians and a furthering in the diplomatic isolation of their targets?
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2024-31-05
I think a big part of the problem is that the West is so secularized that most people can't even fathom that others can truly be religious to that degree. They try to assign other reasons like poverty to explain behavior, because they can't accept that these people actually mean what they say.
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It's Reuters trying their absolute best to downplay what is going on as always. "Just some everyday casual German on German stuff, no big deal, nobody pay attention to what is going on"
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