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This is the same Hatem Abudayyeh that has a long history of defending and praising terrorist groups and regimes like the IRI. He’s quite open about his support of violence in the name of “Liberation”.
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2024-07-06
That same account has said the push to the Litany River in Southern Lebanon is next after Rafah by August/September. It was supposed to start in June but since the Rafah invasion was delayed a couple months it pushed the Lebanon plans back as well.
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2024-07-06
One of the other front page Tribune stories mentioned fears of southern governors sending up more of the "migrant busses" to Chicago during the convention. I have a feeling that there are plenty of bad actors who would love to stir the pot. Hopefully, the authorities will keep a lid on things. It's not just the conference goers, but also the regular people trying to commute via public transit to work who I hope don't face too much disruption.
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2024-07-06
Can someone please explain something to me that I can't get my head around to these ceasefire deals that are being proposed. I understand Israel needs to get the hostages back (debatable how many are actually still alive at this point - I would say not many) however on the flip side Hamas NEEDS to be destroyed as a military and political movement. That's a no brainer. Obviously the ideology is another thing entirely. The thing is I see no mention in these ceasefire deals as to what happens to Hamas after the final stage of the deal is implemented? They can't just remain in Gaza can they? Israel would never let that happen. Would Israel still be able to do raids from their corridors they are creating to eradicate the remaining terrorists? I would assume so.
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2024-07-06
The reason October 6 is unacceptable is because the day after is October 7. Consider the Shalit deal. Hamas was greatly radicalised by the freeing of Sinwar and his takeover. It is no leap of logic but a certain truth that October 7 would not have occurred with Mashal at the helm instead of Sinwar. We freed one soldier to free a thousand who in turn killed 1400 Israelis. There can be no October 6.
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2024-08-06
What do you envisage Saudi+UAE acting on "enough" as looking like? If SA decides they want Hamas to knock it off, what sort of soft or hard leverage do you think they would/could apply that Hamas wouldn't just ignore?
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2024-08-06
Regarding your edit: I wish someone would filmed my reaction the first time I saw someone saying they were preparing to "move to Gush Katif". I probably managed to pull off the full-range of camera stares in the The Office, in less than 60 seconds. I don't know about you, but I personally enjoy living in places where I don't have to worry about being shot in my sleep. I feel similarly about Ariel, but obviously Ariel is worlds safer than "a new Gush Katif" would ever be. I was joking around with a friend one night and he was insisting to me that the most dangerous part of Ariel was the garbage cats and then this man straight-face tells me "well actually, one time we got stoned driving back from Jerusalem and they managed to pop one of our tires" and continues to tell me that the only reason they survived was because they were driving his uniformed brother home from base with his service weapons, so he stood guard while their father changed the tire at break-neck speeds. That's a no from me, dog. And that's just the West Bank -- Gaza would be a million times more dangerous. No thank you. Please, keep it, I insist. *Let me tell you I'm from Tel Aviv without telling you I'm from Tel Aviv.*
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2024-08-06
This is an area the IDF hasn’t operated in yet.
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2024-08-06
I've never been so terrified to want to believe good news. This would be absolutely everything if we are able to rescue hostages alive. I want it to be true so much.
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2024-08-06
And a rumour about the killing of Muhammad Deif.
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2024-08-06
That is interesting,  because they're saying now that while Nuseirat was the focus, there were strikes in other places, as well. But channell 11 is saying it was mostly in the center of the strip.
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2024-08-06
I'm as atheist as one can be but I keep repeating "please god let this be true". As empty as the first part is for me it really highlights how much I, and every single person in Israel, want nothing more than for this to be more than rumors and for it to have a happy ending. Please don't snatch it away, please let them be home and safe.
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2024-08-06
One Telegram channel is also reporting rumors of the death of Mohammed Deif.
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2024-08-06
Wild rumors that Noa Argamani, Shlomi Ziv, Andrey Kozlov and Almog Meir have been rescued alive.
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2024-08-06
Rumors are talking about the release of a very high profile female hostage, please god make it be true
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2024-08-06
There are strong rumors that IDF just rescued 4 hostages.
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2024-08-06
No doubt high assets like the names being mentioned around the web were used as a human shield for a high ranking member. Who for? We'll see
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2024-08-06
Goddamn I hope this is true. Some good news would be great right about now
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2024-08-06
Now *that* has got to be too good to be true, surely!
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2024-08-06
I'll settle for just the hostages but wouldn't mind a cherry on top
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2024-08-06
I'm sorry, WHAT
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2024-08-06
My heart just thumped out of my chest, like you I just prayed for the first time in 10 years. I’m not even Israeli. I think I’m gonna be sick if this is false.
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2024-08-06
This would be about the 82nd time he has been killed.
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2024-08-06
Confirmed.
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2024-08-06
Confirmed by N12 live.
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2024-08-06
THE RUMORS ARE TRUE! 4 HOSTAGES ARE HOME! INCLUDING NOA ARGAMANI!
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2024-08-06
4 they are alive!!!
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2024-08-06
Shabak and Yamam have now confirmed the rescue of 4 hostages from Gaza.
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2024-08-06
OMG ITS OFFICIAL , NOA AND 3 OTHERS ARE RELEASEDDD
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2024-08-06
Confirmed rescued: Noa Argamani, Almog Meir, Shlomi Ziv, Andrey Kozalov
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2024-08-06
Confirmed: *Joint announcement by the IDF spokesperson, the Shin Bet spokeswoman and the police spokeswoman:* It was allowed to be published that in a complex operation by the IDF, the Shin Bet and the Israel Police (YMM) this morning (Saturday) four Israeli abductees were rescued, Noa Argamani (25 ), Almog Meir (21), Andrey Kozlov (27) and Shlomi Ziv (40), who were abducted by Hamas to the Gaza Strip from the 'Hanuva' party on October 7. The abductees were rescued by Shin Bet and IDF fighters from two different locations in the operation In the heart of Nociarat. Their medical condition is normal and they have been transferred to the Tel Hashomer Medical Center. The security forces will continue to work to recover the abductees
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2024-08-06
NOA IS HOME! omg i am crying
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2024-08-06
OMG YESSSSS THANK GOD
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2024-08-06
לא אכפת לי ששבת! הודו לה' כי טוב כי לעולם חסדו! תודה לאל!!
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2024-08-06
Noaaaaa yessssss
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2024-08-06
This has got to be the biggest successful mission the IDF has ever had. 4 hostages rescued alive! NOA! I’m so happy for her parents, particularly her mother. God I’m shaking.
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2024-08-06
haha I'm debating if I should send a message to my religious siblings, I assume they will check the phone for such a message. last time they checked their phones against the religious law was October 7th
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2024-08-06
FYI: The hostages were kidnapped exactly 8 months ago. Truly a miracle rescue operation.
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2024-08-06
Fucking brillianttt
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2024-08-06
8 months and 1 day
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2024-08-06
This is insane. The news anchors are choking back tears
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2024-08-06
Huge win, cant even imagine what they went through being there for 8 months.
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2024-08-06
The 4 hostages are inside Israeli territory and en route to Shiba-Tel Hashomer hospital for medical evaluation. Edit: Noa Argamani has been reunited with her father.
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2024-08-06
Can’t stop crying from happiness, Noa will see her mother.
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2024-08-06
The same "god" that allowed the October 7th massacre to happen in the first place? yeah, fuck him. The credit goes to the IDF and especially to the brave soldiers who risked their lives to save the hostages. Your god wasn't there on October 7th, wasn't there during the holocaust, and definitely wasn't there today during the rescue operation.
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2024-08-06
Even the most restrained people are crying right now from happiness
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2024-08-06
Kidnapped during Shabbat, rescued during Shabbat.
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2024-08-06
The IDF with some next level , only seen in movies rescue mission . What a day.
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2024-08-06
There are reports of helicopters landing on the shoreline with intense cover from air and sea. Michael Bay stuff.
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2024-08-06
NOA ARGAMANI and 3 other hostages rescued!!! Am shaking. Can't breathe. Insane. God bless the IDF! I had a feeling about this weekend!
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2024-08-06
Yess, their entire family deserves it!
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2024-08-06
**Netanyahu heading to Sheba Medical Center to meet freed hostages** Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was making his way to the Sheba Medical Center to meet the four freed Israeli hostages, extracted from Gaza in the special operation on Saturday. Earlier Netanyahu spoke with Noa Argamani to welcome her home. (Itamar Eichner)
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2024-08-06
I applaud Gantz for calling off his address in the light of today’s news. I maintain his decision to exit the coalition is a poor one. No matter what Bibi has done, it is unwise to engage in squabbles during a war. Support the PM, not every decision of course. But support him during the war, defeat the enemy, return the hostages, then you can do your politics. Elections during a war next door will be counter-productive. I’m not even an Israeli.
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2024-08-06
Mi shemaamin is a certified hood classic. Eyal Golan hamelech as they say (#2)
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2024-08-06
Not even close. Operation Thunderbolt/Yonatan, a.k.a the Entebbe raid, was something out of this world. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entebbe_raid
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2024-08-06
Oh right ok that makes more sense.
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2024-08-06
Yet Hamas also minimizes the embarrassment of the 4 hostages being rescued. The world is..I don't think I have the right word.
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2024-08-06
They said the same thing about Ori Megidish
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2024-08-06
An israeli-Arab actress who is also a guest host on channel 12 (yes, unlike what people will have you believe about "apartheid, Arabs do live and work in Israel) uploaded a story about Noa Argamani saying "look at her eyebrows, her nails look better than mine, this is what a hostage looks like? This is what the IDF kills women and children for?" https://x.com/ivgiz/status/1799432221549563988?t=NTXPe7_Wsoudo5yVRSczoQ&s=19 I wish her the best of luck on her future endeavours working for Ramallah TV because she will not work for Israeli TV ever again.
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2024-08-06
What else should a country do after 7-10?
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2024-08-06
bless you u/AnxiousPeanut1990 for posting all of those, Keep them coming
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2024-08-06
Does Russia want to take credit for this? let's start with attacking Iran and stop attacking Ukraine, until then, keep your Israel talk outside of your mouth
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2024-08-06
Not to mention, reports coming up now that the civilians in the surroundings apartments weren't only fully aware of the hostages, but actively involved in supporting the kidnappers, providing what they need, etc. Once the IDF was discovered today, there were dozens of Gazans shooting at them, including people from surrounding homes (different buildings), some even had RPGs. The getaway car was actually hit and the car broke down, IDF soldiers were hiding the hostages and protecting them with their own bodies. The whole fight took a full hour of fire (additional IDF units joined the fight) until the soldiers were able to get away safely. So important to remember when considering the death numbers: there were clearly at least dozens of active combatants there, actively engaging in a firefight. We'll probably never know the actual breakdown of deaths, how many of them are combatants, how many are civilians who were actively aiding the terrorists, and how many were actual innocent civilians.
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2024-08-06
the obligatory- Fuck BBC
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2024-08-06
I can't believe my eyes. A Dutch newssite also (nu.nl) has the supposedly Palestinian deaths of the rescue operation as a headline, with Hamas as only source. Unbelievable. That's like citing ISIS as reliable source.
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2024-08-06
This is about a few hours after Americans are waking up I think?
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2024-08-06
I mentioned in my comment after this that i do wonder if they accidentally gave information away in that last video -- perhaps some noise in the background or geo-location data, or something. Albeit the officers that rescued Louis and Fernando said that they trained for months for the rescue and were just waiting for the right conditions to pull the trigger, so it may be a coincidence here, too. I imagine if that video did help, we won't learn until after the war.
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2024-08-06
Remember that name. Arnon Zmora. So happy for the hostages and their families but someone just lost a son, a brother, a husband, a father. I can't comprehend the bravery and sacrifice of these special force types. Truly better men the world is worse without someone like him in it. I'm convinced of that
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2024-08-06
Interesting that they actually make the distinction between the two here though, most people don't seem to know that the death figures are coming from the Government Media Office and not just from the medical system. If the Health Ministry is more reliable but the BBC has been including the GMO figures without much scrutiny or clarity up till now, I wonder what's changed.
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2024-08-06
It seems this operation seriously pissed them off. I can hear nice explosions here in Ashkelon.
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2024-08-06
Stay safe ♥️
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2024-08-06
The Dutch are absolutely appalled that she didn't Tikkie them for every single tea bag
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2024-08-06
Thank you:)
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2024-08-06
Notice its always the commanders who get killed. They lead from the front.
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2024-08-06
Ichivlov hospital made a statement that Noa was reunited with her mom and that she's been briefed about her mom's "complicated" situation.
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2024-08-06
**Hamas spokesman Abu Obeida threatens lives of remaining hostages after rescue op** Hamas spokesman Abu Obeida threatens the remaining hostages held in the Gaza Strip after a rescue operation in the Nuseirat refugee camp that freed four captives. “The operation will pose a great danger to the enemy prisoners and will have a negative impact on their conditions and lives,” he says in a statement. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hamas-spokesman-abu-obeida-threatens-lives-of-remaining-hostages-after-rescue-op/
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2024-08-06
t sounds to me like the original plan wasn't supposed to have any collateral damage, and the causalities only occurred once one of the teams was discovered and shot at (including fucking RPGs...). We know of at least dozens of Hamas combatants involved. At this point, fearing the operation success, the IDF seemed to throw everything they had - reinforcement teams and bombardments from planes, which likely did cause some civilian causalities. And still, it's a decision absolutely any army would take - you have the hostages in your hands, you have your best special operations teams in there getting shot at by dozens of people, you need to get them out no matter what. Sadly, this kind of breakdown won't reach the mainstream news. It will be "200 dead in rescue operation" (using Hamas numbers of course), as if the plan was just to bomb everyone, and of course all dead will be assumed civilians.
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2024-08-06
Yeah I was there and in a thread about the rescue, (which they call a massacre) there was a comment that said 'may they never know peace again' (the hostages). I left a reply telling the commenter  they were a shitstain on the underwear of society. It'll probably get me banned from there, but I'm OK with that. 
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**‘Blatant lie’: IDF dismisses Hamas claim that other hostages were killed in today’s rescue** An Israeli army spokesman denies a claim by Hamas spokesman Abu Obaida that some Israeli hostages were killed during the IDF’s rescue operation of four hostages late this morning. “It’s a blatant lie,” Israeli military spokesperson Peter Lerner told CNN. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/blatant-lie-idf-dismisses-hamas-claim-that-other-hostages-were-killed-in-todays-rescue/
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2024-08-06
I made the same comment at Shabbat dinner this week.
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2024-01-06
Every decent military prepares for war during peace. We have war plans for Canada lol.
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2024-01-06
So at some point soon xi will stand up and say “I have found Jesus” and am no longer going to steal land. I have been cured! 🤣🤣🤣
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2024-01-06
> assure them we will respond with force if they’re crossed. Defensive promises were catalysts for both world wars. There's a reason the U.S. doesn't do this anymore. It's much easier to deescalate when everyone can save face and pretend like it was just a miscommunication.
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2024-01-06
China, for all its shit, can be reasoned with. It has shown time and time again to take rational decisions and to prioritize making money over pointless wars. Taking over Taiwan would make no sense for China in current time. There would be no gain: - The CCP is already very high in approval and doesn’t need a war to turn attention - Economically it would be a disaster that would cripple if not collapse the Chinese economy (30% GDP contraction after 1 year of war is expected) - Militarily it could not be made into a lighting operation due to how well defended the island is and China knows it. That said the Chinese economy is slowing down and no one knows what the future holds. But yeah, China isn’t unreasonable like the Nazis were, war can be avoided
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2024-02-06
Ignorance... Hasn't he ever heard of the *Thucydides Trap*?!
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2024-02-06
This is the correct answer. Technically anything can happen, but think about how much trouble the US and Europe had with our "nuclear sanctions" against Russia. Which didn't even work! You would have to multiply the impact on our societies by like, 10, if any war with China happened. Also it would just go nuclear anyway
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2024-02-06
They either take over by making US look bad for Taiwan or by attacking.
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2024-02-06
I uh, I wasn't aware we'd 'given up on' Cuba. We don't want it to be part of the United States, yknow. The issue with Cuba was (and remains a relic of) Cold War ideological conflict. People aren't really worried about the whole World Revolution thing anymore, sure. That has a lot more to do with a certain very large political entity's collapse than it does Cuba though.
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2024-02-06
What allies does China have? North Korea and maybe Russia and India? Even then, Russia and India are only allies in the sense that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", India and China in particular have a lot of issues with each other and the only reason China allows North Korea to exist to be a buffer zone between the ver much US ally of South Korea.
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2024-02-06
An interesting read which I note recalls that [Trump imposed stiff tariffs and started a trade war with China.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thucydides_Trap#China%E2%80%93United_States_relations)
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2024-02-06
We do that already. Well. It's in the ocean rather than sand. But yeah. They know where the lines are, they may be national irredentists but they aren't *stupid*. That said, there's plenty of reasons to not start yelling about it at every opprotunity. A little public-facing vagueness serves our interests too since keeping tensions at a manageable level is preferable to having a Checkpoint Charlie situation all the time.
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2024-02-06
The US military has been talking about war with Russia and China for at least 5 years so they know whats up.
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2024-02-06
Much different environment. Trade expanded in such a way that we rely on each other too much. Nuclear deterrent also exists now. That's probably the biggest reason lol
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2024-02-06
The landscape is just wildly different. The lead up to the First World War most militaries were using Napoleonic tactics. All of the belligerents were related, war was not the affair that it is today. It's a complex issue and I get why we would compare today to then but it is different.
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2024-02-06
Russia and Iran work with China for common goals, that is the worst what could have happened for the west and the west was arrogant and did not prevent this.
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2024-02-06
Would you say china is your only interest?
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2024-02-06
None of this means they are allies.
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2024-02-06
I’m not exactly sure who the United States thinks is going to fight in a war with China. I don’t see the troops being willing to fight for a completely made up war with China.
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