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Didn't know that deflecting 4 grenades who were thrown into a shelter, saving the life of 4 people, is "killing children"
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2024-04-06
Ahhh yes because the war has been going so well for them that they are in a position to dictate terms.
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2024-04-06
The most recent polls show that Hamas is more popular in the WB than in Gaza, though even in Gaza it’s incredibly popular. Still, Hamas needs to be ousted.
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2024-04-06
If they surrender and demilitarize - sure
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2024-04-06
Palestinian TERRORIST* group Fify
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2024-04-06
Hamas will not give up power voluntarily. Israel may eventually succeed in completely destroying them, but it will likely take at least some more months of war. That's what I mean by "for the foreseeable future".
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2024-04-06
What is your preferred solution?
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2024-04-06
Israel seems fairly content to just keep killing people in the mean time.
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2024-04-06
Agreed!
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2024-04-06
Let’s remember the Tamil Tigers. They wanted to Free Tamilstan. They were also nasty terrorists. There was no two state solution. No Tamilstan. No sit ins. No divestment. No hysterical college students. Sri Lanka wiped them out with guns and bombs.
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2024-04-06
All the conflicts after which Hamas had agreed to a permanent ceasefire and then broken it: - Operation Cast Lead - Operation Pillar of Defence - Operation Protective Edge - November 2018 - May 2021 So yeah, they cannot be trusted to keep their word. They must be eliminated.
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2024-04-06
The fact that there is a political group representing Palestinians inside of Israel's administration The fact that Netanyahu and co leverages from militants on the side of Gaza and the West Bank to destroy the image of Palestinians isn't helping one bit. In fact, Hamas did more damage when they actually held back from attacking and not allowing Netanyahu to leverage from actions against Israel. Netanyahu's political image is broken, all HAMAS had to do was wait a few more years and see who manages to become next. All of that is just what-ifs now that the war started
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2024-05-06
You do understand the vast majority of the Islamic world doesn’t believe Israel should exist nor do they believe Jewish people should exist? Also that Israel is full of people from a variety of different ethnic backgrounds who were forced out of their homes largely because the rest of the world hates Jewish people?
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2024-05-06
I know Israel still wants to get the remaining hostages out, but a permanent ceasefire is off the table. Everyone in their right mind(besides the tok tok brigade) knows Hamas is going to do this shit again.
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2024-05-06
They did that a decade ago, and then Oct 7th happened.
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2024-05-06
Listen to yourself. Do you really think we simply beat the fascism out of them? We enacted the Marshall Plan. We gave plenty of money to Japan and helped reestablish their industrial base to be the most cutting edge of the time. It is everything after the bomb that counts. It’s important to win, not to pulverize. You are literally calling for mass destruction of human beings. Have some empathy beyond what you can directly see, please
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2024-05-06
Go easy on him, probably he lacks the necessary hormones or neural links to have what we call empathy. 
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2024-05-06
I feel like that joke never landed.
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2024-05-06
ah thank you Mr Israel very much for eliminating a few Hamas hiding in the West Bank at the cost of [hundreds of civilian casualties](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-rights-office-criticises-israel-over-deaths-500-palestinians-west-bank-2024-06-04/). Certainly, they come for peace huh? Imagine that brutality in YOUR city. Absolutely unnecessary and disproportionate force.
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2024-05-06
Not really because then people like you wouldn’t have a leg to stand on. Completely asinine and childish argument. I mean they have nukes, wouldn’t they just nuke it? No, of course not. Perhaps there is some truth to your assertion though, in that the Likud and Netanyahu would lose an incredibly useful political tool if they completely wiped it out… But as far as the far right and many ultra orthodox Israelis go, it’s not even a fucking secret lol. They openly celebrate and chant in the streets for the destruction of Gaza and celebrate Palestinian deaths. To them, Gaza (and the West Bank) have always been part of Israel, and belong to the Jews. Have you had your head in the sand regarding the actions of Israeli settlers in the West Bank, intimating, antagonizing and assaulting Arabs until they leave and they can take their homes? The hoards destroying aid trucks bound for Gaza?
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2024-05-06
It's almost like taking out their leadership would not stop the people under them from continuing to do what they are doing. And there are not constant missiles/terror attacks coming from Qatar, so it would be harder to justify airstrikes in that country. Like....Duh?
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2024-05-06
Hamas has never been able to fight Israel militarily in any meaningful way. Their goal has always been to indicate enough damage on Israeli civilians to cause the IDF to respond. Then run away and cause Palestinian civilians to die in their place all the whole distorting data and killing civilians themselves.
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2024-05-06
Actually no, they've elected to starve them out and deny responsibility
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2024-05-06
It's very obvious you're not reading it, because you certainly didn't accurately describe the contents of the post. (Or, more snarkily -- and I'm also not reading your justification to why we should be shipping dildos to Thailand!)
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2024-05-06
Also, that was Thatcher that they tried to kill, right? Honestly, they would be doing the world and GB a favor.
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2024-05-06
>The Palestinians assassinated Rabin and Arafat go stop ir. Pretty sure Netanyahu's Likkid party had Rabin assassinated. And have prevented any two state deal the Palestinians would agree to. >To blame this, and everything else you have incorrectly blamed Israel for and not the other side IS ANTISEMETISM The era before and around the founding of the modern Israeli state is dark, and mirrors the worst things my country the US did to the Native Americans that lived here before. If you want to keep throwing around this assertion of antisemitism, you are going to have to explain it like I'm dumb because I don't see it. Especially since I try to go to great lengths to keep the arguments political in nature.
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He is a clown with an army of sub minimum wage online propagandists trying to convince the world that he is some sort of a genius tactician. If he had any brains he would've served russia instead of imprisoning her
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2024-04-06
With nuuuuuukes, no less! <hic> <hic>
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2024-04-06
Never underestimate your opponents. Pretty fatal flaw
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2024-04-06
Ready, set…hold on, one sec….ok back on…1…2….did we say what number were counting up to?
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2024-04-06
> They will NOT bring anyone else into this costly and humiliating mistake they thought it was going to be a ride just like in Crimea, didn't they?
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2024-04-06
We've made the opposite mistake of overestimating him for two decades and he ended up thinking he could just gobble up countries
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2024-04-06
> Putin is managing a war without using his most powerful weapons. so are us...
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2024-04-06
There's no chance france is actually going to start a war with Russia So I think they will target these trainers
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2024-04-06
People thought they were bluffing before the invasion, you know. You can’t predict what a wild animal will do when pushed into a corner
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2024-04-06
Lickspittle 
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2024-04-06
Utter bullshit spouted by Ruzz sympathisers. They haven't done shit in the past 2 years while we crossed every red line they drew. Perhaps you should actually follow the conflict instead of writing clichés.
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And you know.. actually send Ukraine top of the line surface to air defense actually manned by French personnel instructed to shoot Russia aerial targets out the sky and also surface to surface to respond to any aggression.
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2024-04-06
Makes u wonder why we report on it so frequently, doesn't it...
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I'm not taking sides here, but one thing that was common in the USSR was to falsify reports up the chain of command, embellishing them all the way to the top: i highly doubt russia has changed much from that pattern. The people at the top of the food chain in countries like Russia have to assess reality knowing that reports they read are embellished, falsified and often make believe. He probably planned a 3-day war after every report from every high ranking officer in the russian armed forces told him Kiev would fall in 3 hours and failed to realize just how embellished the reports he was delivered were.
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2024-04-06
Well if that’s your logic why not just send in NATO forces directly and attack Russia?
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It's like I'm taking crazy pills lol. People are calling me a Putin worshipper for suggesting that this potential conflict would be significantly different than a one-off fight in Syria between 500 assorted Wagner/Syrian ground forces and about 20 US aircraft.
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2024-05-06
Vive La France
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These aren't trainers, these are "trainers". There is no reason to train Ukrainians in Ukraine, they can easily be transferred to Poland or Romania or France, and trained there for months in safety, that is was trainers do, and that is how NATO has been training Ukrainians for years now. On the other hand, these are more like "trainers" in Vietnam, they probably aren't there to train Ukrainians (and they are especially not there to train Ukrainians "on the front" as Reuters puts it), there are there as a way to send in the first wave of combat forces without creating too much of a backlash at home, and not calling them combat force. This is a tried and tested technique. The logical thing for Russia would be to attack them, and kill as many as possible, creating shock in France. Losing hundreds, or thousands of soldiers within hours would create a shock for French government, although I don't think Russia would be able to do this at all. But that won't stop them from trying.
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2024-05-06
Please don't start world war 3. I'd like to think Putin is all talk, as it would be counterproductive to his aims, but then again, are humans ever sane?
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2024-05-06
Not sure if I would still agree. You aren't wrong though that the Chinese public still do crave for the niceties of life. That said, I think it's ridiculous that tourist travels to France or Italy is such a make or break that it'll trigger revolution in China.
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2024-05-06
Technically they could do it, it would probably even comply with international law. My guess is that they won't, but who knows at this point.
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2024-05-06
Seriously, they did that?
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2024-05-06
NATO is a defensive alliance, not an offensive alliance (and yes, I know it worker as an offensive alliance in Serbia, Afghanistan, etc). That means if France wants to get involved in the war in Ukraine, France can get involved, but dead french soldiers in a war France got involved in, is not an attack on NATO. One could argue that if France used military bases in say Poland to launch jet fighters to bomb Russian positions, that Russia attacking those military bases would not be attack on NATO. In fact I fully expect US to argue this IF the bases are used like that.
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2024-05-06
Yeah I too have been called a putin agent for mentioning what is a military reality instead of joining in with the adolescent fantasies these people have In all honesty they disgust me as they are happy to engage in waffle but then get upset when someone who knows what they are talking about shows them a reality check,it's sad but your on reddit and the majority of posters you are replying to are morons
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2024-05-06
If those trainers are sent to Ukraine, no.
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2024-05-06
A no fly zone requires ability, and willingness to enforce it. Do you think France has the ability AND willingness to target Russian air defense sites in Russia? At that point we are not talking about sites near Ukraine either, systems like S300/S400/S500 have operational ranges of hundreds of kilometers, so is France willing to commit to SEAD operations deep within Russia? As long as the answer is "No", there won't be any no fly zones. When the answer is "Yes" we are in great power territory in Europe, and the last 2 times it happened, we had world wars.
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2024-05-06
Yeah, they were told it was an exercise and parade
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2024-05-06
Ukraine itself is not a valid target for Russia French is hitting targets in Ukraine, only permission from Ukraine is needed
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2024-05-06
That's not technically true. They are in Ukraine, not in Russia. They are not aggressors, they are trainers. Thus, they are protected by defensive agreements.
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2024-05-06
You are right, as a trainer in Ukraine, they are not 'valid targets', and are still protected under defensive agreements. They have permission to be in Ukraine from the Ukraine government, and they are not aggressors. They have not attacked Russian troops nor entered Russia.
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>this does not negate the fact that intentionally targeting said troops could be seen as a significant provocation It's not, russian soldiers and french soldiers have faced each other before in other areas and conflicts and there was no escalation. Because there's nothing to escalate. >I disagree *You're* telling *me* what *i'm* thinking bud?
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2024-05-06
Depending on how Ukraine turns out they might have a fresh batch of conquered expendables to send to die for them. And even if they don't, how long will it take to run them out?
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2024-05-06
Nah, the official AfD line is "We have to stop all support because we only cause the war to go on longer" so they want to sacrifice the people of Ukraine to Putin for "peace in our time". To be fair, they know Putin would just start the next war, but they are his puppets.
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2024-05-06
Blitzkrieg was a German ( and french, ironically) concept, nothing to do with russians.
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2024-05-06
It's very simple. 9/11 happened on american soil, so it's a valid reason to trigger article 5. Ukraine is not french territory, so whatever happen there, cannot trigger article 5.
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2024-05-06
Not exactly. The plan was to take Kyiv in the first week, kill Zelensky, install a puppet regime, and then the army was just there to keep the citizenry in line. They thought they werent going to have an actual war. After the first two weeks went with no puppet regime installed, Russia's chances of winning were vastly reduced.
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2024-05-06
Most average Russians probably are not motivated to fight Ukrianians. Germans though, that's be something else entirely.
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2024-05-06
Came to say this. Thanks !
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2024-05-06
> no military involvement No *direct* military involvement. Providing weapons and trainers to Ukraine is not the same as French troops fighting Russian troops. A retaliatory strike on France proper would absolutely be Article 5 worthy.
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2024-05-06
These people don't seem to realise that Russia nuking UK will cause all out world nuclear war. The UK has a nuclear deterrent. When the UK responds with nukes at Russia, Russia will activate their main strategy which is to attack targets all around the world in response to their imminent destruction. There is close to zero possibility of a nuclear exchange limited entirely between the UK and Russia.
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2024-05-06
Not worried about "WW3." If Russia actually engaged in head to head battle with NATO they'd get destroyed quickly. So then the fear mongers will say "it will end up in nuclear war! We'll all be dead!" But of course Russian leaders don't want to die and kill all of their friends and family over what they know is just an oligarchal imperial war that they don't really need. The best thing to do is to call them on their bluffs and end this before more Ukrainians have to die.
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2024-05-06
Good luck, and thanks for your service!
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2024-05-06
All is fair in love and war. Why mention ready to strike? Just strike. As usual all bluster and hype
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2024-05-06
Somehow, I don’t think France will see it that way.
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2024-05-06
And all the civilians the Russians use for target practice
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2024-05-06
They better station at military bases. Russia seems to bomb everything else than those.
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2024-05-06
> while Russia actually invades and takes land, including the lands with oil and gas like South-Eastern Ukraine And there it is. Oil not 'denazification'? "Today’s events are not connected with the desire to infringe on the interests of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people. They are connected with the protection of Russia itself from those who took Ukraine hostage and are trying to use it against our country and its people. I repeat, our actions are self-defence against the threats posed to us and from an even greater disaster than what is happening today." So you're calling Putin a liar? Good job, enjoy your time on the front :p
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2024-05-06
They get to respond in any way they like if Russia attack them … you think Russia can tell them to just take the beating?
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2024-05-06
So Macron doesn't want to deploy because he doesn't want to escalate. And that means he does want to deploy because he wants to escalate. Most sensible pro invasion Redditor
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2024-05-06
one of the most egregious military blunders of our time.
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2024-05-06
Not what I said most derisive Redditor
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2024-05-06
The French would consider a café ban to be a war crime actually.
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2024-05-06
He wants to escalate but he doesn't want to because it's such big risk
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2024-05-06
We're talking about border skirmishes. They may have been conducted with restraint, but things will escalate if one side gets the upper hand.
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2024-06-06
I’m open to suggestions.
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2024-06-06
you frog eaters are finished!
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Fuck the PRC agenda and the ensuing death march of Chinas culture and its people’s autonomy
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Lets got those speakers blaring with K-Pop across the dmz asap
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mmmmmm, transparency.
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2024-04-06
Sounds like they have something to hide and are maybe involved too?
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Yes but why be reasonable when you can froth at the mouth and accuse people of being traitors?
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Why? Is it because the individual in picture and her boss are part of those conspirators?
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No seppuku, that's a relief.
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Not as safe as my Samurai.
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Look at it in another way. Maybe this way their cars will be cheaper. Time for a Toyota
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