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Thanks for the kind words!
Glad to be able to get these thoughts out here!
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2024-05-06
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The Ukrainian law isn’t clear on what happens to the second citizenship. The phrasing in the constitution is ambiguous on whether you can’t have another citizenship or whether you can but for the purposes of the law only your Ukrainian citizenship matters.
In practice, everyone treats it as the latter. If you try to use your other citizenship to enter the country, you’ll get a fine. But that’s about it.
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2024-05-06
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Consular services are part of the role of an embassy (or consulate).
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2024-05-06
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With the amount of destruction that has happened I’m not sure how you can say that unless you’re missing both eyes or are just simple minded.
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2024-05-06
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It was in relation to getting approval to work abroad. But someone below already answered.
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2024-05-06
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I know right? So strange, just yesterday everyone was cheering when leaders allowed to strike inside russian territory. Why would they not like this escalation of conflict, too?
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2024-05-06
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Drafting women would be the death knell for a society. If Ukraine did it then the people will rise up and immediately call for an end to hostilities, even if it meant capitulation. It has nothing to do with sexism.
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No, it's me saying if you want to see the status quo change, you need to be the change you want to see in the world. There's always a line though, where there's more good to be done but people feel the drop in their living standards and go nope. You're the same.
You actually do have more to give, you just don't want to give it. You seem to not even realize it.
I think about people I've met in the third world that didn't even know what electricity or ice was.
Yet here you are playing games like starfield and stardew....
>I don’t have to prove it to you, but I am literally doing everything I can. I don’t have anything to give I haven’t already given. I hope you likewise do the same.
No, it's everything you're willing to do. I'm sure you've done a lot, but not everything you could. Not even close. You drew a line and stopped. I'm not shaming you for doing it, almost everyone does, just calling out your obvious BS.
Equal whatever for all, means a dramatic reduction in living standards for everyone in the first world. To the point of it being incomprehensible for most in the first world.
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2024-05-06
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I’m not making the statement. The burden of proof is on them.
Edit: changed you to “them”.
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2024-05-06
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Have you ever considered, even for a microsecond, you'll be less than useless to the Ukrainian army, and they may even lose men trying to bring your body back? Perhaps, just perhaps arrogant redditor, you're a bit less important than you believe.
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2024-05-06
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Oh so you're upset you won't be able to visit a country, during a war, that you've never visited after being a baby, and basically have no connection to on a personal level? I feel so bad for you, glad you're in the West where we can take care you. Ungrateful cur.
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2024-05-06
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thats what u got from there lmfao =))?!
so why is it male privilege than?! why is it not rich or powerful people privilege?! =))
Oh shut the fck up, a woman can have like 15\~30 babies in a lifetime.
If society is at risk... pretty sure a few thousand of them would just about do the trick, if they actually care to save said society. No need for millions and millions.
Reproduction being their "draft" is the shit u use when u got nothing else to say. Having a kid - in a modern hospital/environment with tens of doctors near u - is NOTHING compared to being shot and bleeding to death while starved and freezing in some muddy trench hundreds of miles from home.
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Most of the people who wanted to leave are already gone. I know a guy who got 30 Ukrainians to the USA using some religious back door. I am assuming people don’t want to be blown to pieces or droned when they can leave.
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2024-05-06
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True, in usual circumstances, when the government minds their own business and doesn’t try to stimulate the birthrate with money and such. Oh, by the way, there are those anti-abortion laws in USA, Poland, Russia, anti-LGBT movement “to save the population”, plans to restore falling birthrates in South Korea and Japan.
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2024-05-06
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You shouldn’t be forced, sure, but forfeiting your citizenship if you aren’t willing to defend your country seems appropriate. Don’t expect to come back to a country someone else has fought and died to protect when you weren’t willing to do the same.
That and based on your extremely cringe Redditism I doubt the drafting agents would be scared of you or your katana collection.
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2024-05-06
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The Equal Rights Amendment would have required women to join the draft in the US. That was a big argument against it, and not one made by feminists.
The strawman approach doesn't help anyone. Saying "women should also be required to join the draft" is fine. Saying "women don't actually care about sexism when it benefits them" is overreaching.
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Yeah but even a pregnant woman can do all other military jobs.
If guys are needed for fighting so much then every other citizen should be conscripted to do every other job in the military.
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2024-05-06
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Ukraine’s not a feminist country. It’s a conservative Slavic country. Just because they’re anti Russia and making overtures to NATO doesn’t mean they’re suddenly on the woke train.
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2024-05-06
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A sophist
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2024-05-06
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India refused to not buy Russian oil. Was that mentioned in education you received?
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I m sure they are enforcing it like crazy while bleeding to death in some muddy trench.
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2024-05-06
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Typically the only times I see it being used to insult someone is when they’re ignorant to the fact of that privilege. Like I’ve seen tons of arguments where a guy is trying to tell women it’s safe to go somewhere because he doesn’t feel unsafe there. This is just ignorance, and often leads to him arguing about it or insulting them first because they’re rightfully scared/nervous about their safety in the area (I’m trying to be vague because this could apply to any number of circumstances I’ve seen from time of day, if you’re alone or not, physical location, etc…). When you call someone out on their privilege here, it isn’t about shame, it’s telling them they’re wrong and aren’t considering the other persons perspective. It’s literally insulting their lack of empathy or ability to understand there is a difference, not insulting their privilege itself.
I’m a white trans woman, I never considered the privilege I had as a male until after I transitioned, seeing that privilege disappear in most areas of my life also let me better see the privilege I enjoy from being white and better notice the differences with me and friends of color I have. I’ve never felt “ashamed” of being white and I never felt ashamed of being male when I was one. The issue is people taking general statements as a personal attack when it’s not. The only time someone should ever feel ashamed of their privilege is when they use it intentionally to hurt others.
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> While Ukrainian women in other countries are just enjoying life with rich foreign men
WTF. What are they supposed to do? They can’t join the military. And living and getting an education in Ukraine is quite possible either at the moment.
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2024-05-06
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but do they actually care?! in this instance?!
like would women actually go to war alongside men?!
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2024-05-06
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How are you so dumb that you can't recognize every death of the invading force is attributable to the invasion??
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2024-05-06
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Zelenskyy is male and so is 80-90% of the Ukrainian parliament. It’s Ukrainian men who aren’t voting to draft women.
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> every death of the imaging force is attributable to the invasion??
So by this logic Israel hasn't killed a single Palestinian because they were attacked with an invasion attempt.
Congratulations! You've now wiped out every Palestinian casualty with that logic.
Nice one!
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Some ukrainian women are fighting in this war.
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2024-05-06
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Tiktok rotted your brain.
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Because they’re *soldiers*, not because they’re men. That has nothing to do with hatred of men.
Are you suggesting with a straight face that the Ukrainian government is purposefully trying to kill off their male citizens because they hate men? Then it would be misandry.
Be for real, please.
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My former employer has/had offices in Ukraine. For awhile my coworkers were working without power, or from their cars.
In the my most recent communication with one of them, he had found his way to another country in Europe and was now working from “home”.
I didn’t want to ask him if he transited legally or illegally. He’s an able-bodied adult male suitable to fight, so I can’t imagine they just LET him leave.
I think that US based employer is not going to push the issue. I don’t know what currency he’s paid in but if he has negotiated for something other than the hryvnia he’s probably OK. But if he’s getting paid in hryvnia, but he needs to pay for food and rent in euros, that could get ugly.
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Actually American men aged 18-25 are required by law to sign up for selective service (draft register) and they could lose certain state-based benefits like student aid for failing to do so.
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2024-05-06
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And if he wasn’t a dual citizen (US and Ukrainian), would USCIS decide he’s been out of the country >180 days in 1 year, therefore lose his status/Green Card?
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2024-05-06
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No until they don't want any more.
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because almost no state can stomach forcing young women to the front, outside of the USSR in world war II
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2024-05-06
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>Yes you do. Feel free to resign your citizenship
Yeah that's not a thing dude. You don't get to resign your citizenship and live outside the bounds of society.
Everyone should be free to decide what causes are worth their own life. If someone doesn't feel that defending a plot of land so that some politician can keep power over it instead of a different politician that's their choice to make.
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2024-05-06
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actually extremely disappointed by worldnews i'm well aware it's full of conservative oldies but DAMN who would've thought they would go full incel mod
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I moved from Sevastopol to the US in 2006. I had a Ukrainian citizenship at the time. To get a US citizenship, I served a few terms in the Marine Corps. My family got naturalized slower due to work visa reqs.
I'm a disabled vet now with severe spine issues. I want to help rebuild a village on the back end of the war, but I'm a liability in any actual operational capacity by now. I'm only 30, so I can still swing a hammer no problem, but I'm past my prime to do buddy rushes lol.
Since I'm a naturalized citizen now in the US and not dual since I had to renounce my UA citizenship, will I:
- be somehow recognized as a traitor of sorts if I show back up??
-Do I need to contact someone? I'd like to come back and visit my grandparents and other family. I just want some Kvas, a Cheburek, and some watermelon. Is that that hard?
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2024-05-06
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What do we have to do with this? Finland is not part of this war other than through few volunteers and equipment.
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2024-05-06
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Most of IT companies in Ukraine pay in USD. He'll be fine.
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That’s what I do. It’s still useful to have a local bank account for certain things that require one, but I just operated out of my U.S. account and cards.
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2024-05-06
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where did op say that service should be mandatory for men ?
you do realize that men are the ones sending other men to war right???
women arent here throwing them in the meat grinder it's MEN, so why are you bringing pregnancies up ?
also are we going to sit here and pretend like women haven't been forced to give birth for centuries pre women rights movement, and that this practice is still prevalent in 3rd world countries ?
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Ya, hilarious /s
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2024-05-06
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The modern outlook of “oh wait, we can actually just put in effort to coexist peacefully” is very new. Unfortunately.
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I agree. Even if the government succedes in getting men like you back to fight, what will it accomplish militarily. Morale would (rightfully) be non existent, and they wouldn't fight well.
Obviously the government is desperate, there is a legitimate manpower issue. But moves like this only alienate those abroad who are supporting Ukraine in other ways.
Hope things go well with you
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2024-05-06
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they should though
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You think western leaders don't know what's really going on?
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I don’t have to. The US has the most powerful military, the largest economy and the USD is the reserve currency of the world. That means that we can whack our metaphorical giant dick against smaller nations faces and they just have to accept it.
The fuck is Ukraine going to do if we say “stop this dumb shit or we cut you off.”? Keel over and die?
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imagine your mother or sister or girlfriend being drafted and being on a frontline, policy makers imagined it too
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> Since I'm a naturalized citizen now in the US and not dual since I had to renounce my UA citizenship
I believe you are mistaken.
I am also a naturalized US citizen. **At no point of naturalization process you are renouncing your other citizenships**.
You say some words which amount to renouncing *allegiance*, but that doesn't do anything to the citizenships you already have.
To renounce Ukrainian citizenship, you'd have to go to Ukrainian consulate, and it's not an easy process - or one you would forget.
**Almost certainly you are still a Ukrainian citizen**.
>be somehow recognized as a traitor of sorts if I show back up??
No, you won't be considered a "traitor".
What you will be considered is a Ukrainian male aged 26-60, **fit for service**.
>Do I need to contact someone?
Normally I'd say: contact Ukrainian consulate, they will direct you further.
But at the moment, **no Ukrainian official is giving a clear answer**. Hence this post from the US Embassy in Kyiv.
I would say your steps are:
1. Contact [Consulate of Ukraine in the US](https://usa.mfa.gov.ua/en) to find out what it takes to lose your Ukrainian citizenship
2. Follow the directive from the US Embassy in this article, and don't plan on going to Ukraine any time soon.
Optimistically, they will sort this out *at some point*.
I am angry, and will try to make enough noise for them to be hard to ignore us. I'll ping you if it comes to filing a lawsuit.
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Can't predict your country or laws. You can absolutely get out of the draft of you are determined to. People in your country probably have to change country but that's the cost, you can't expect the benefits of a strong country without the responsibilities that make it strong
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She is a hero in my eyes as much as anyone else in that war.
She took on *the system* and **won**.
The world needs more **people** like her.
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> Poland has made it clear that they are planing to send Ukrainian men back, pretty much all of them, and so have the baltic countries.
Poland isn't keen on returning its **permanent residents** though, the ones with Karta Polaka.
Especially those working in IT.
Poland wants to pick and choose *which* Ukrainians to send back: keeping the profitable ones, and getting rid of the rest.
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>Here in Japan people are successfully updating their draft information through Diya Reserv + app.
I was able to log in and update my address with the Reserv+ app, and my status is consistently **"Уточнюється"** ("to be verified"), because the app doesn't **register** people for the draft.
Most people in my place won't be able to use the app, because logging in **requires having a bank account in Ukraine**, which they use for authentication.
I have opened my first Ukrainian bank account in August 2023 when I was in Kyiv; otherwise, I wouldn't be able to even do *that*.
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Agreed. Absolutely.
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There are many other ways to cross-reference people though.
Full name and date of birth gets one close enough to a unique match that the rest can be done manually.
Doesn't matter though. The visa-free requirement from the EU means that **Ukrainian passports are biometric**.
I.e., they can match you to a database in any case if you have a passport issued in the past 7 years or so.
Since passports are issued for 10 years normally, that's most people.
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https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-mandatory-military-service
Most of the countries that have mandatory military service are culturally conservative countries. If you asked the average Russian, Turkish, or Lithuanian man if he'd want women to be drafted he'd likely say no. The few western countries are being hypocritical but it shouldn't be surprising that a country like Iran that murders women for not wearing headscarves properly won't draft them in the military.
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Majority of those donations ended up in wrong hands. Equipment was reselled. Based on my knowledge of situation, I highly doubt the equipment you smuggled ended up on front lines.
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They won't run out before Ukraine runs out. They just have a much larger population base to draw from.
Size matters in this case.
And you mentioned their militia allies.
Russia as we speak is rebuilding it's army and military infrastructure at a rapid pace. A year ago the military experts said it would take over a decade, now it's down to less than a year.
Artillery production already dwarfs what the west can send Ukraine, nearly 3 times as many shells are produced for Russia than the west can ship. That's why some western countries have thought shifting to a war footing to begin production of war essential materials such as artillery shells by retooling mfg plants.
Russia is already doing this, has been doing this.
>The Russian military began 2023 with a highly disorganized force in Ukraine comprising approximately 360,000 troops," military experts Jack Watling and Nick Reynolds wrote in the study, released on Feb. 13.
>"By the beginning of the Ukrainian offensive in June 2023, this had risen to 410,000 troops and was becoming more organized. Over the summer of 2023, Russia established training regiments along the border and in the occupied territories and — following the mutiny of Wagner forces — endeavoured to standardize its units, breaking down the previous trend toward private armies.
>"By the beginning of 2024, the Russian Operational Group of Forces in the occupied territories comprised 470,000 troops.
>The RUSI report said that with no large-scale offensives underway, Russian units are conducting smaller tactical attacks that "at minimum inflict steady losses on Ukraine and allow Russian forces to seize and hold positions."
>Russia's ministry of defence has said it wants to expand the military to 1.5 million personnel, a plan that has not been realized. RUSI's report says "recruiters are currently achieving almost 85 per cent of their assigned targets for contracting troops to fight in Ukraine.
>Russia will also continue regenerating combat power, recruiting more than 10,000 troops per month," Gady said.
Then they have assets from foriegn countries flooding the battlefield in drones and devastating 155 mm artillery.
Russia is revamping it's military, retraining it's troops and keeps increasing total troop power inside Ukraine.
It's a numbers game Ukraine can't win without outside ground troops.
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Or people just don’t want to fight and get killed because of where they were born.
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Why is one of your main sources one of the shittiest Ukrainian tabloids that's up there with the likes of Espresso and Obozrevatel? Is that where you get reliable information from?
>everything that's not great is a "Russian narrative". How about we don't give them narratives of this sort?
No concrete things are, most of the lies start with a modicum of truth and get blown up, that's the most effective kind of misinformation. That's usually what happens. Like there is a concrete problem with X unit on Y front, and this gets blown up and generalized to the whole frontline.
I don't have time to read your whole blog post thoroughly, but from a quick read I saw that it was filled with speculation, so tell me how's the new 2024 Maidan against Zelensky going from his loss of social credit?
>IIRC, last excuse was that Zaluzhny "didn't present a plan". Neither did Syrski, though, so that couldn't have been the reason.
They don't owe you any explanation, and you shouldn't speculate about supposed conflicts and how he got fired over an internal feuds, narratives were pumping that conflict narrative extremely hard and you're one of the people who helped them.
Zaluzhny had two years at the helm and did not provide satisfactory results, so he was replaced by another very competent person, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
You're also seemingly one of the people who idolized him and attributed ZSU's triumphs to him on a personal level. We were all thankful for his service and what he helped accomplish, and there is nothing wrong with his replacement.
>Ukraine existentially depends on the US, which Blinken represents.
>You can't ignore that.
And Ukraine isn't a US vassal, don't have to agree on everything. Elections are utterly nonsensical right now, and there was just a giant Russian campaign "Maidan 3" that aimed to discredit the president and push for elections, it was reported and confirmed by international news.
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They arnt actually running out of men they just chose not to conscript the 18-27 age demographic, which is essentially 2 million men.
Also, they have not brought women into non combat roles, which is looking like a mistake.
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Literally none of the news is saying that Ukraine is winning. They are saying (and as they should be because it's true) that Ukraine CAN win.
Russian losses are just as unsustainable as Ukraine's. That's why it's called a battle of attrition.
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2024-07-06
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Yeah I know, we're watching it happen to Russia as well in real time.
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>I guess staying put when he had almost a 100% chance of dying within days of the invasion to lead his country in the face of almost certain annihilation isn't enough
It absolutely and certainly **is not enough**.
He did his job then. Good. We're two years past that point now.
The war has changed. He has not adapted well.
>Being an armchair general helps nobody.
You're telling this to Blinken, the US Secretary of State. You realize that, right? I just quoted him.
Zaluzhny isn't an *armchair* general either.
>Plus, he will almost certainly be assassinated at some point, so I think he deserves a break.
What break? I am not judging him for not doing a great job now. He's probably got enough PTSD from the first months of war.
I am just observing what anyone who is grounded in reality is observing - including people like Zaluzhny and Blinken (..not to mention journalists like Butusov): that Zelenskyy's administration has been failing to do its job, starting early in 2023.
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>So there's no way to get rid of this citizenship at all, if you may still have it by birth?
The official procedure exists, but if the state doesn't want to annull it, it won't. It's up to the state.
And the procedure can't be initiated if you're investigated for a crime (which not registering for draft may be).
Depriving people with Russian citizenship of their Ukrainian citizenship is the last thing Ukraine wants to do, because it'll fuck over people in occupied territories (many of whom were **forced** to acquire Russian citizenship).
The lack of some sort of automatic loss of citizenship, in general, is good - it protects people from ending up stateless or deprived of their rights.
But the system is not exactly working in the interests of dual citizens right now. Or even in its own interests, for that matter.
It's the self-destructive stupidity that can't be explained by malice.
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Violence is coming anyway. One way leads to a further occupation by Islamofascists. A difficult potential way could lead back to a secular (enough) government Lebanon.
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Lmao what the fuck are you smoking? You must be truly delusional to think this has to do with covid more than good ol geopolitics.
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I feel like khameni is gonna get dot brigaded after this.
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This is a new type of incompetent
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Again??
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It's OK we're perfectly safe. Ukraine isn't allowed to shoot us here.
5 minutes later...
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War of attrition only worked for the USSR because the UK and the US supplied them with aid via Persia. USSR were getting their asses kicked until the UK got over their fear of having a communist ally.
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Because you can't both throw all your men into the military industrial complex and send them to the frontlines. Take the latest reports from inside Russia that they are short 5 million workers, the more you send to the frontline or defence industries the more your wider economy crumbles.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-short-around-48-million-workers-2023-crunch-persist-izvestia-2023-12-24/
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There are also a lot of US-Americans (no comment on the brainwashing part)
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There’s no way Russia can sustain this, keep the pressure on
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I have seen C beams glitter in the dark..
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Basically.
There were several large units staging in the border region of Russia.
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For context, [Ukraine lost 31 000 men in the whole war](https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/02/25/7443637/), and russia has lost more [than that in May alone.](https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/06/2/7458756/)
EDIT: In case this wasn't clear, trusting a newspaper called Pravda ("the truth", as everyone from former soviet union could tell you, really ironic name) is dumb. It's propaganda all the way, and if you believe it, I have a fucking space elevator to sell. Really cheap, really nice.
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Russia just buys its army. It’s oil money that does not run out.
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air defense systems might include individual components, such as launchers, radars, C3 stations, etc.
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The thing is, Ukraine has a very limited battle ready population and a decency of external aid that is not even a steady and secure help.
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As much as I really want to believe this, I think Ukranian casualties are definitely higher. This is a war, so the numbers are going to get fudged. Otherwise, Ukraine wouldn't be having to worry about a manpower shortage.
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Way easier to shoot at motorcycles than an armored vehicle.
You are not going to be able to go full speed on the motorcycle due to all the craters from artillery and previous mine explosions. One bump and everyone is off the motorcycle.
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if they don't lose weapons, they dont have anything to do in their economy. they're incentivised to make poor weapons so that they can keep working. They fuck around so much that they fuck themselves over and cannot comprehend it
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For the rider? Makes it a bit more spicy if an FPV drone impacts near/on you.
But, I was just providing evidence to counter OPs claim that they were not transporting mortars, only food and water. Food and water is a reasonable thing because you can carry a fair bit, but someone shuttling 3 mortar rounds on a bike is a bit more ridiculous because that lasts less than a minute firing. Not really practical.
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You aren’t attacking with motorcycles. You are resupplying advanced troops. If these motorcycles are encountering small arms fire, something went wrong and the enemy is behind your front line.
I drive motorcycles and dirt bikes all the time. Simply go around or slowly through the craters lol. It’s easy.
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Both the Chinese and western economies would collapse.
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Ukraine is a peer adversary.
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What does the USA or World War II have to do with the Russo Ukrainian war?
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What Russia doesn’t have a lot of, is military age men. They are destroying their demographics and won’t be able to sustain their economy when everyone is either really old or too young.
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Vietnamese famously deliver single mortar rounds through the jungle on foot and taking days.
The American general thought it was foolish and pointless, while Vietnamese and Chinese celebrate it was perseverance.
I will leave you decide who was right.
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