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>Politicians from both the government and opposition have reacted angrily after news emerged that three soldiers were detained by military police for firing warning shots at a group of migrants trying to force their way across the border from Belarus. Two of the soldiers have since been charged by prosecutors.
>The border has recently seen a surge not only in the number of migrants and asylum seekers trying to cross, but also in aggression towards Polish officers. In some cases, soldiers and border guards have been hospitalised with injuries following attacks.
>Yesterday, Onet, a leading news website, reported that in one case from around the turn of March and April, three soldiers were detained after firing warning shots into the air and ground around a group of 50 people – made up of men aged 20-30 – who had forced their way onto the Polish side of the border.
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>Two of the three soldiers have reportedly been charged with exceeding their powers and endangering the lives of others. They were also suspended from duty. The actions of the authorities have reportedly caused anger and frustration within the military.
>In response to Onet’s report, defence minister Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz issued a statement on Wednesday night saying that the situation was “unacceptable” and needed “to be fully explained”.
>“Soldiers guarding state security must be sure that legal procedures protect them,” wrote the minister. “I will always stand on the side of the honour of Polish soldiers.”
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>Kosiniak-Kamysz’s predecessor as defence minister, Mariusz Błaszczak, who is now the head of the opposition Law and Justice (PiS) party’s parliamentary caucus, also condemned the news as an “absolute scandal”.
>“The Polish state has an obligation to stand behind border defenders. Soldiers cannot be exposed to physical attacks from migrants on the one hand and to legal consequences from Bodnar’s prosecutor’s office on the other,” wrote Błaszczak, referring to current justice minister and prosecutor general Adam Bodnar.
>Błaszczak also rejected the idea that Kosiniak-Kamysz had only now learned of the incident. The defence ministry gets regular reports on the situation at the border and “Kosiniak-Kamysz MUST have known about the detention of the soldiers”, wrote Błaszczak. “The truth was hidden for about two months.”
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>Sebastian Kaleta, who served as a deputy justice minister in the former PiS government, also suggested that perhaps recent incidents of physical attacks on soldiers have happened because “they are prohibited from defending themselves or because they are afraid \[of prosecution\]”.
>Sławomir Mentzen, one of the leaders of the far-right Confederation (Konfederacja), another opposition party, accused the “government of caring more about illegal immigrants storming our borders on Putin’s orders than about Polish soldiers!”
>However, figures from the current ruling coalition – including MPs Roman Giertych and Sławomir Ćwik – also criticised the actions of the prosecutors who have reportedly brought charges against the soldiers.
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>Meanwhile, Jacek Siewiera, the head of President Andrzej Duda’s National Security Bureau, said that it is a “shocking and scandalous situation when the Polish army lacks proper tools in the face of an external threat to state security”.
>Siewiera noted that Duda had last year proposed legislation setting out new conditions for the use of weapons by the army when faced with “hybrid threats”. He appealed for all political forces to now support that bill, reported news website Interia.
>Last week, in response to a rise in attempted border crossings by migrants and attacks on Polish officers, the government announced that it would reintroduce an exclusion zone banning people from approaching the Polish side of the border.
>Those measures were initially planned to go into place on Tuesday this week but, so far, have not been implemented. Meanwhile, this week has seen further attacks on officers at the border, including one who was hospitalised on Monday with serious injuries.
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2024-06-06
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If you haven’t watched the movie The Green Border yet, give it a watch, heartbreaking
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2024-06-06
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I wonder how many people in these comments realize these migrants are coming from Russia lol
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2024-06-06
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Were they the same ones? I thought the stabbing happened one month prior.
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2024-06-06
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Not a word on how this was orchestrated by a pawn of recently dethroned kleptocratic party to stir up shit right before elections, curious.
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2024-06-06
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The city from a country that opressed other nations in the most hardcore way and then resettled some of citizens of that country forcefully to serve them domestically? And now those people give them trouble?
Nah, I'll pass.
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*sees Iran side-eyeing from across the room*
Well don't you look at me like that, you certainly wouldn't be in any danger.
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2024-06-06
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Biden is just telling Russia that if anything happens on their soil then it’s not our fault. It isn’t a threat in any way shape or form. Unless our President is totally fine with escalating a war with Russia and draw the rest of NATO into the conflict.
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2024-06-06
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No one wants that. The American people will not stand for that crap. Fuck that. If Ukraine can’t attack Russia on their own then they better not leverage us to escalate the war.
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2024-06-06
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Yeah what does the former defense secretary know about foreign policy, right?
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2024-06-06
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The news up to this point: they can’t, they can’t, they can (maybe?), they forsure can, they can’t, they can with limits, they can’t, they can “near” the border.
The US’s strategic ambiguity is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
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2024-06-06
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And with that comment , Biden just told the world and Russia who’s pulling the Ukranian strings. So what happens when Ukraine really does something to piss off Putin. Do we become the target and get drawn into a direct conflict with Russia ?
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2024-06-06
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A strike on Moscow would significantly increase the risk of a nuclear war.
It’s probably a really good idea to not do that.
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2024-06-06
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Oh yeah, my comment was meant for guy above you. We agree.
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2024-06-06
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The idea is to make this war so painful that Russia decides to withdraw on its own. The west considers keeping the supplies limited and gradual safest for them because they can spread out the cost (limiting political risk) and because Russia always has something to lose if they decide to retaliate (limiting the security risk to the west). Whenever Russian diplomats threaten they can reply back: "Hey it can always get worse, let us know when you feel like pulling your hand out of the blender".
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2024-06-06
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With what? Its 400 miles from the front lines to Moscow.
ATACMS and Storm Shadow at best are 180-200 miles.
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2024-06-06
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The only rules for Ukraine should be not to hit civilians, and maybe stay clear of targets directly related to Russian nuclear assets, just to be safe.
Asking them to not hit legitimate Russian military targets, wherever they are, is just ridiculous.
The whole escalation argument is bullshit. The only one escalating anything is Russia. They can stop this completely by fucking off back to Russia...
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2024-06-06
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Easy to fix, not worth it.
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2024-07-06
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Biden didn’t continue building a wall. Are you high? Done replying.
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2024-07-06
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But Ukraine? They might be....
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2024-07-06
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Aside from long-range drones(which are only good for shock value that far from the front), what do they even have that could get there?
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2024-07-06
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Ohhhh, Dune?
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2024-07-06
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Exactly which foreign policy actions/decisions do you believe Biden has made that will have him go down as “one of the best foreign policy presidents in our history”?
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2024-07-06
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He needs to go to jail.
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2024-07-06
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Nothing is infinite.
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2024-07-06
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It’s just with US weapons.
They’re free to hit Moscow with any other weapons they want. A swarm of Cessnas drones or something. Or maybe sneak in some artillery and fire from the suburbs as long as you can.
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2024-07-06
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What a missed opportunity
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2024-07-06
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I mean, how many assassination attempts have been made on Zelensky at the behest of Pootin? At least two made the news.
So one side has to wear kids gloves and the other gets to dictate terms as the aggressor? This is stupid.
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2024-07-06
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For some time they had both hands behind their backs.
One for sure thinks it would be better to allow these things faster. But at least there are many small steps forward.
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2024-07-06
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We should though as Moscow is striking Kyiv constantly.
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2024-07-06
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If by funny you mean sad that our state of politics is divided on this and there’s actually people in power who support him then… yes
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sounds reasonable, modi and yogi had no job to give advice in stocks
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2024-07-06
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I’m sure some clown will explain to us how this is somehow Biden’s fault…
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2024-06-06
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Wow what a shock! You can’t negotiate with terrorists!!
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2024-06-06
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Hamas is winning in the court of public opinion, which is all they care about. They don’t care about Palestinians. As long as they can continue to occupy schools and hospitals to get them bombed, they’ll drag this on.
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2024-06-06
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That's one factor, but I would mainly credit Operation Defensive Shield and the fact that Israel has security control all over the West Bank
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2024-06-06
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That’s not going to happen though. Many in Israel have no interest in dismantling Hamas.
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2024-06-06
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Funny how the only outlets reporting this is Israeli state media 🤣
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2024-06-06
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Not surprising. But there’s an either irrational (or naive, or both) portion of the U.S. populace that thinks it’s a legitimate option and has criticized Biden for a lack of effort. You could have an easier time negotiating peace with an angry badger than you could Hamas. Peace isn’t their goal, Jihad is.
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2024-06-06
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Oh but let's still protest at the local University.... Maybe it's better to protest at the Hamas HQ in Doha...
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2024-06-06
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Are you like 15 or just stupid? Radical Islam blended with Palestinian nationalism is not at all fucking comparable to the political form of Emperor worshipping Shintoism that the Japanese practiced. They believed their emperor was a God, that’s easy to disprove. Now please explain how you’re going to dismantle both Palestinian Nationalism and Radical Islamism without literally annexing the territory fucking killing everyone.
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2024-06-06
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What are their names?
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2024-06-06
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You’re conflating Gaza with Palestine.
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2024-06-06
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If Hamas cared about "the safety of Gaza's people" then they would stop using civilians as human shields. And yet...
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2024-06-06
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I mean, they are so close to winning.
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2024-06-06
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No one thinks that.
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2024-06-06
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Few doubt that, I think.
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2024-06-06
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The Taliban wiped out went actually pretty well so long as the US was there actually, for 20 years women could have jobs and education, and Taliban were mostly living in remote mountains and they only went back to power after the US left, the difference here, however, is that Afghanistan is on the literally side of the other world from the US, and after 9-11 the US wasn't receiving constant terrorist attacks so the population just kinda got tired of the war, meanwhile Gaza is literally next door to Israel, and the israeli population is constantly and painfully reminded that hamas is a terrorist group a few hours away from their country, not the same situtation at all.
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2024-06-06
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I'd hope there won't be a next time, but we all know how it ends.
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2024-06-06
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Hamas is a terrorist organization that was elected by the people of Gaza.
Hamas does what any terrorist org does: kill civilians. So they killed Israeli civilians.
Israel did what every sovereign country does: defend themselves and raise the cost of such an attack again
People act surprised by all of that.
Then we take sides. Israel or Palestine.
Whats there to take sides on? Let both sides figure it out themselves.
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2024-06-06
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They shoot 8, they're shot by 8000, it's not even the same ballpark.
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2024-06-06
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Lol, what?
It was downvoted for being irrelevant, not for being hated. Can't really ignore the context, since that's the cause for the downvotes.
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2024-06-06
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Those schools, hospitals, etc are getting bombed because that's where Hamas's terrorists are hiding.
Nobody is forcing those terrorists to use schools and hospitals as human shields.
And yet, the terrorists who know they'll get bombed wherever they hide choose to hide in schools and hospitals, so that civilians will get killed, so that people like you will be possessed by emotions and fooled into defending the terrorists.
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2024-06-06
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The cease-fire crowd should travel to Gaza and stand in front of Israeli troops. We can go fund me that effort.
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2024-06-06
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Yeah nah, that's the same excuse that has been used over and over and over, and it doesn't work, so it's high time Israel do the one thing that may actually end this conflict which to completely wiped out Hamas, then, if the international community actually gives a damn about Gaza what they should do after the operation ends is to set an international rule with the UN peace keeper troops there to do their namesake and keep the peace.
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2024-06-06
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Go figure...
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2024-06-06
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I agree that it was a touch hyperbolic, but the idea isn't entirely without merit. Israel was in a position to enter Rafah by February, but held off for months while Hamas entrenched itself more deeply to appease outside interests. And the payoff? Every bit as much ire when the absolutely necessary operation began. A strong, consistent message in support of taking action against Hamas, which is very much in the best interests of both Israelis and Palestinians in the long run, could have let this war be far closer to over.
In addition, the world pushing Israel not to act massively emboldened Hamas, leading them to pull out of temporary ceasefire deals and shoot down offers that were beneficial to them, just because they have learned that as long as they stick harder to their human shield tactics and refusals to make a deal that isn't, "Israel backs off and leaves us in power," outside pressure will be applied almost solely on Israel. The consistent support of the US would have made those pressures far less important to Israe.l
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2024-06-06
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Weird take but okay
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2024-06-06
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Hamas rejects peace agreement. College students: omg how could Israel have done this??
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2024-06-06
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At this point I don’t even think you understand your own argument.
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2024-06-06
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Absolutely nothing to do with the hatred they teach in School there.
Also helps if you recognise your neighbours and don't invade them every other decade.
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2024-06-06
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That seems like another irrelevant comment.
Are you able to stay on topic at all?
In case you're confused, the topic at hand that you responded to was the fact that Hamas only wants to kill, doesn't want peace, and doesn't care how many Palestinians die.
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2024-06-06
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72% Of Americans supported the war in Iraq in 2003. I know it's not a 1-to-1 comparison but we can look back on how misguided that support was in a time when Americans felt desperate, and maybe compare to the state of normal Palestinians in 2022 and you might draw some comparison
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2024-06-06
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You need reading comprehension dude..
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2024-06-06
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When Hamas does an act of terror the older woman hand out candy. This has been shown in many documentaries even before this war. So I guess kids getting candy is Hamas's way of caring for the children.
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2024-06-06
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Cake or death? Oh you chose death. Well then we are happy to comply.
Honestly, let's go back to not negotiating with terrorists. They don't want peace, so seriously, let's take the reins off Israel so they can give Hamas the war they want.
If you don't want to be part of peaceful civilization, then maybe it's best you spend your time with your god instead of on this planet.
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2024-06-06
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Maybe it's one of those hilarious novelty grenade "take a number" desk counter
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2024-06-06
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Below is Google's AI answer to "is israel secular" and imo it's fairly accurate. The influence of Judaism (the religion) heavily permeates every day life in Israel to the point that calling it secular is "debatable".
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Israel is considered a secular state by its parliament, the Knesset, and its laws are made accordingly. However, some say that Israel's role of religion in government and politics is so significant that it cannot be considered secular in the common sense of the term. Israel has no official religion, but the state is defined as Jewish, which creates a connection and conflict between state and religious law. The Chief Rabbinate has authority over many aspects of Jewish life, including kashrut, Shabbat, Jewish burial, and personal status issues. For example, streets in Haredi neighborhoods are closed to traffic on Shabbat, and most businesses are closed.
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2024-06-06
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So they're technically almost defeated and don't really have the military power to do anything relevant anymore?
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2024-06-06
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That's...not what happened.
And your "non-ethnic Jews" claim is bogus.
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2024-06-06
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I feel like at some point, the US needs to build a collision to address this and weed out Hamas. Perhaps with the Saudis.
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2024-06-06
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I’m not even saying that Israel shouldn’t take out Hamas leaders. I’m saying that Hamas leaders are hiding behind civilians right now. They’re dug in and they have created a situation where Israel can’t take them out without killing a bunch of civilians, which will make it possible for Hamas to rebuild. The smart move if they really want to eliminate Hamas is to back off and to let Hamas leaders get complacent. Let them start to feel safe and get them when they’re no longer surrounding themselves with civilians. Then it’s clear that Israel is just going after those who planned the attacks and it’s much harder for Hamas to garner support from the civilian population.
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2024-06-06
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Not sure Egypt and Jordan were ever in the same condition as Palestine in 2022 (before the start of the war)
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2024-06-06
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How does critical thinking counter paid content masquerading as your community members?
It doesn't, and social media is there for likely doomed for the rubbish bin of history.
When companies are willing to peddle lies for profits, and critically undermine governments in the process, the media by which they do this are not long for this world.
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2024-06-06
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I'm going to demand my government stop funding and arming hamas
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2024-06-06
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No most groups of people in history surrender and end hostilities when faced with insurmountable opposition. See - Imperial Japan, Third Reich Germany, Native Americans, the Confederate States of America, etc.
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Yeah I find it wild when I hear from fellow Americans that Israel shouldn’t have responded with war.
When Pirates attacked American ships, we created the US Navy and bombarded their ports. When Pearl Harbor happened, we fought a World War. When Iran mined one of our ships, we took out half their navy. When 9-11 happened, we invaded Afghanistan. Welcome to how the world works
Not only is it hypocritical it’s just naive to think a nation quite literally surrounded by enemies can just kinda “shrug this one off” and look towards peace. War is a terrible and unfortunately collateral is simply unavoidable. But they voted Hamas in power OVERWHELMINGLY. Then Hamas started a war and Israel has every right to end it.
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2024-06-06
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Aren't you a champion or two-siding issues! That's some great skill.
Meanwhile, Palestinians continue to support in very high numbers a literal terror attack which mostly targeted civilians, while Israelis support a war that aims to make sure hostages are returned and missiles and further attacks are stopped.
Am I wrong? Make sure your comeback evidence is better than some minister saying something you extrapolate from. It needs to be evidence of most Israelis in general supporting a "slaughter".
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2024-06-06
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> To no one’s surprise. Hamas won’t accept any proposal that doesn’t involve the complete destruction of Israel
FTFY
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This is a more fair comment, your first comment made a lot of people including myself groan
Literally nobody supports Hamas and Hamas is not winning “public favor”. Anti-Israel rhetoric is growing because of the atrocities of Palestinian civilians
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Biden just wants this to end. It looks terrible to his election process. My interpretation of this is that he tried to force Israel's hands to commit to a deal that lets hamas remain in power. It's pretty underhanded, but it's very plausible.
Even though most Israelis are adamant that they want hamas destroyed (in some shape or form), most also want the hostages back - to the point of violent protests and pressure to pay a very high price, but most weren't willing to openly say that they'll accept a permanent ceasefire.
What Biden essentially did was help the Israeli public opinion tilt towards that unpopular option by presenting it as a nearly done deal. "We don't deal properly with hamas, but at least we finally get the hostages back".
This in turn would pressure Netanyahu to drop the objective of destroying hamas and might even get him some pr boost as managing to return the hostages.
It's not quite working. Public opinion in Israel is still heavily leaning towards pursuing the war to its conclusion.
But hey, lucky that hamas solved that dilemma for us! /s
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2024-06-06
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Until they say ceasefire confirmed and don't go back on their word expect waffling and negotiations
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2024-06-06
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Middle East, North Africa
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2024-06-06
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Funnily enough the same problem exists the other way - nothing recruits for Hamas quite like settlers and the IDF murdering Palestinians.
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2024-06-06
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Yeah but thats kinda obvious. But thats hypothetical and isn't really a good talking point.
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2024-06-06
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get fucked then
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No it’s called you need a comprehensive approach that’s more robust than “bomb the fuck out of everything and expect Hamas to eventually give up and disappear”. Israel needs to continue to make peace with their neighbors and then go in with a coalition of Arab countries to peacekeep and govern the territory. All of that needs to be under the condition that Palestinians will get their own state. Invasion and occupation isn’t viable and just exacerbates the fucking problem because it’s the same thing Israel has been doing in those places since 1967. They have to change the narrative or it’s going to continue.
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...fuck I just took a number...4 3 2...
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You’re assuming Palestine would win, check your assumptions.
Israel didn’t really develop them, I think they got their yellow cake from Brazil.
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Don't forget about Rabin's assassination
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[what you asked for but probably not what you wanted](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/fcc05449fbc8afd6d2dd47879103fb62ca56309e/c=0-93-2589-1556/local/-/media/2018/04/13/Springfield/Springfield/636592460974417376-President-George-W.-Bush-in-his-Art-Studio.jpg?width=1320&height=746&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)
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Every time I read “Hamas rejects ceasefire”, I almost believe it. Right up until I read either the article or have to google it because the article is written basically by Israel. Typically the ceasefire is on the condition that Hamas basically hand themselves in, or that Israel gets to take all of Palestine, or some other fundamental reason the fighting started in the first place.
“We want a ceasefire, all you have to do is give us everything”, “No”, “See, see, Hamas *are* terrorists, they won’t accept our ceasefire.” It’s so tiring listening to lies.
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They are terrorists born from oppression. If I was oppressed at the Palestinians, I’d probably throw rocks at tanks and toss grenades too.
But the cold fact is that neither Israel nor hamas have clean hands in this. They are both shitty wartime instigators and that’s why it will go on forever. People tolerate Israel’s war machine, they don’t talk about it but they also refuse to give Israel carte Blanche to wipe out Gaza as a whole, innocent or guilty like they actually want
They hide behind religion and the concept of “a chosen people” to martyr themselves.
Hamas, conversely, hides in daycares and targets civilians while having no scruples about getting their own kids killed for their glory. Their original credo might have been altruistic, but now they are their own people’s worst enemy too
No one is innocent here
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Or you could recognize that Hamas is using civilians as human shields, and is responsible for those deaths instead. Weird that people protest against Israel for defending itself instead of against Hamas for using women and children in that capacity.
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because OP changed the headline. the headline says "Hamas said to have rejected ceasefire proposal," OP inserted "Biden's"
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Lmfao, my guy what world are you living in? Israel prefers good relations with the Arabs far more than killing a bunch of fat bureaucrats. If Israel had wanted to kill those people they’d already be fucking dead. The reaction by the Gulf States to such a brazen violation of their sovereignty would be to unravel all of the work Israel has done for decades to normalize relations. You’d be so fucking easy to bait my dude. Hamas and Iran would LOVE for the Israelis to do something that stupid.
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