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The people who packed up and moved because they felt their state was becoming “communist,” or whatever….very strange. What a bizarre time when people can’t tell the difference between tyranny and freedom.
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2024-10-06
It would still be common today if people could find work near where they grew up. 
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The world as we know it is doomed when this becomes a benchmark stat. Shame on the Israeli government and any who support it.
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Wonder if you are just a brainwashed monkey or purposefully spread misinformation
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The BBC is so salty over the rescued hostages, one gem of a reporter asked if Israel gave the Palestinians a heads up about the operation.  Tragic really, how Hamas wasn't given enough time to murder the hostages before the IDF rescued them. https://x.com/jconricus/status/1799660273172922420
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2024-09-06
Lol what a joke the BBC is. They're no better than fox news at this point
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2024-09-06
Yes, because every army informs the enemies they're about to rescue hostages from. /s. Freaking morons....
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2024-09-06
Least insane BBC reporter
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2024-09-06
Dumbest question you can ask, this wasn't a bombing. Noa's rescue went off without a hitch. The other three they came under heavy fire. Israel likely took out a bunch of combatants. If their were civilians it would be a cross fire situation( it just as likely Hamas killed them)
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2024-09-06
Good job IDF and everyone involved in the rescue mission.
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2024-09-06
Way better to kill tens of thousands of civilians.
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2024-09-06
https://x.com/michaelh992/status/1799747933124063450?s=46 #New Benny Gantz will make an announcement today at 20:00, after delaying his previous announcement initially planned for yesterday. He is expected to resign from the government
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2024-09-06
7.10 -A thousand civilians slaughtered, hundreds have been kidnapped. and you're talking about "disproportionate"? Was American response after 9.11 proportional? Do you have other ideas how to fight a terror organization dressed as civilians, hiding in and under civilian, without collateral damage? Israel could defeat Hamas in 2008 in operation "Cast Lead", but the world asked them to stop. They could do it in 2012 Operation "Pillar of Defense" but the world asked them to stop. They could do it in 2014 Operation "Protective Edge" but the world asked them to stop. They could do it in 2021 Operation "Guardian of the Walls" but the world asked them to stop. They know Israel will always to minimize collateral damage, they know the world will always blame Israel when they dare to try and respond, that's why they hide behind civilians, that's why they always lie about the amount of deaths. That's why Israel was never allowed to defeat Hamas in previous wars. Then again, it all led to the 7.11 massacre, and you still want Israel to stop just because Hamas is hiding behind civilians? so Israel should just let them do another massacre? disproportionate? you damn hypocrite.
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2024-09-06
When reading and learning about Arnon's death yesterday, the first thought that came into my mind was that he and Yoni must be sitting on a cloud up there, drinking a cold beer like brothers. IDK, the similarity in their situation is amazing.
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2024-09-06
The blame was indeed put on them and they took it and the responsibility since day one. There was a statement of many in the different forces saying that they will joyfully die in Gaza since they'll see it as making amends for their failing to protect the people. It was shocking and heartbreaking.
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2024-09-06
WHO, UN, and Red Cross all use the same numbers from the same source and it's > 30000.
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2024-09-06
*But how can Avi resign if Nimrod Aloni is the commander of the Gaza Division and Hamas is holding him hostage?!* **/s** (For those who missed it, Hamas dragged a middle-aged man outside in his underwear, paraded him around while they heckled "Nimrod", the previous commander of the Gaza Division, posted hundreds of photos online of them pushing this man around. They didn't believe it wasn't Nimrod until, I believe, the IDF posted something about it and we later learned "Nimrod" was actually Ohad Ben-Ami, one of the many reasons I worry if he survived that day. Hamas quietly dropped the claim that they had Nimrod, but I still remember!)
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2024-09-06
Exactly, look at the source!
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2024-09-06
Your thoughts are more optimistic than mine, because as I wrote that comment, I was like, "gosh I hope Arnon doesn't have a power-hungry sibling". I agree with the sentiments, though; Yoni was, as far as we are all aware, a good person who died a hero, and same for Arnon. It's a silly thought, but I do hope his death doesn't weigh on the 4 too much.
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2024-09-06
Right. So you know how to count dead people in a war zone better than international organizations who are trusted to count dead people in a war zone?
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2024-09-06
So they made the claim but didn’t name who?
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2024-09-06
So our country is now at the mercy of Smotrich and Ben Gvir. Someone please help us
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2024-09-06
Honestly, i didn't believe he would do it, go benny!
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2024-09-06
Peter griffin will do us good
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2024-09-06
Theres not enough info atm, but gantz said they agreed on an election date, so it may not be a complete break and he may support the government from outside like lapid and liberman.
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2024-09-06
>**Israeli minister Benny Gantz resigns from war cabinet in blow to Netanyahu** > Israeli war cabinet member Benny Gantz has resigned from Benjamin Netanyahu’s government, delivering a blow to the prime minister who has been celebrating the rare rescue of hostages held in Gaza. >“Leaving the government is a complex and painful decision,” Gantz said in a televised statement. >The decision by Gantz – considered Netanyahu’s main political challenger – fulfils an ultimatum he gave the prime minister last month calling on him to lay out a new plan for the war against Hamas by June 8. >https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/09/middleeast/benny-gantz-resignation-post-war-plan-gaza-intl-latam/index.html
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2024-09-06
As if we weren't already. At this stage, gantz can probably do a lot more to minimize them and bring elections from the opposition than he can from inside
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2024-09-06
I understood he called on Bibi to reach an agreement on an election date, not that there is one already. As far as bibi is concerned the only acceptable date is November 2026
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2024-09-06
>are people really that dumb? Yup.
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2024-10-06
The (moderate and far) right in Europe is fairly if not very pro-Israel, A win for the right in arguably the most important union in the world besides the US is a huge weight off of Israel's back when it comes to international pressure to stop the war in Gaza. When it comes to Ukraine however, the (specifically far) right is far less enthusiastic to support them in their fight against Russia (not to mention their Euroskepticism which weakens European unity), some claim its just 'anti-interventionist' policies, others claim the far right in Europe is a Russian mouthpiece (this accusation is mostly directed at Le Pen's NR & the AfD party in Germany), not all far right parties are like that however, Meloni's party is fairly pro-Ukraine, pro-NATO and pro-EU, but the general theme of the far-right in Europe is Anti-sending weapons to Ukraine and Pro-Israel, hence the good news for Israel and bad news for Ukraine
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2024-10-06
So basically the exact same as before Oct 7th? We Jews are innately aware of how much people hate us lol.
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2024-10-06
You better have a lot of mates.
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2024-10-06
Have the returning hostages said anything about how they were treated in Gaza?
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2024-10-06
As far as I know, the UN also does not count food trucks for the private sector. That's still food that goes in.
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Yeah. I think the farthest North I've seen Hamas hit was Herzilya the other day and that was pretty weird. I'm sure one has gone father, but that's the furthest that I remember one hitting. General rule of thumb is north is Hezbollah, center-Gaza Envelope is Hamas, South (like, by Eilat) is... wild card! I, personally, blame the Houthis these days, regardless. Hamas rockets are mostly low range because they are literally made from pieces of garbage, so them even hitting somewhere far as Be'er Sheba is uncommon. If I had to describe it to the best of my ability: * "Just another Tuesday" rockets from Hamas: Gaza-area kibbutzim (historically, even before the 7th, I used kibbutz Nahal Oz as one of my markers and Sderot is the farthest in this category). Yad Mordechai and Kissufim were other comment alerts in this category. * "We might want to go get some snacks for the mamad" rockets: Ashkelon and Ofakim. * "Hamas is feeling spicy today" rockets: Ashdod, Be'er Sheba (I once saw an alert for Sde Boker and it's lived in my head rent free for years, so you can put that here). * "Hamas wanted to send a message but has terrible aim" rockets: Rishon LeZion, Rehovot, Gedera, Yavne, Ramle. * "Hamas wanted to send a message and somehow managed to get it right: Tel Aviv, Holon, Ramat Gan, et al. * "Hamas wants to send a *spicy* message" rockets: Lod, exclusively and only Lod. * "Are we watching political suicide or someone's first day on the rocket launcher?" rockets: Modi'in, Jerusalem and it's suburbs, *West Bank,* which I've actually seen more times than I can count. Beit Shemesh if they miss. That's more or less Hamas' range. I used recognizable cities, so obviously all the smaller areas in-between are liable for rockets too. My point is that, more or less, I'd say I have those more or less in order of how common they are. The farther away the rocket can hit, the more expensive it is, so Hamas doesn't deploy anything beyond 1 and maybe 2 very often, or at least not often prior to this war. Bonus points: if the siren location has asking: "why the heck would anyone hit \[xyz?\]": we learned in April that those are from Iran! Seeing a siren for Masada is probably one of my most bizarre experiences as an Israeli, and I'm saying that *as an Israeli.* Hope that helps.
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2024-10-06
The thing is, it’s not just a cover. “Hamas” is a tribal way of life over there, which is why capturing and killing them all is unrealistic
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2024-10-06
Yup
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His Hebrew is really bad, apperantly he kept telling netanyu “spasiba, spasiba” in Russian
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2024-10-06
Can only hope we can release safety more hostages via military means. Seems like an impossible task
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2024-10-06
I’m seeing people say 3 hostages were killed in the raid that saved 4 but I can’t find any reputable source reporting that. Is this disinformation?
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2024-10-06
That very much depends on the far right party in question. RN has a history of anti semitism, although the younger Le Pen has tried to clean up that image to make the party more palatable.
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2024-10-06
Now I'm picturing a tour group at Masada, hearing sirens and realizing there are no shelters. Someone starts setting up a lottery, and everyone rolls their eyes "again?!" 
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2024-10-06
The UN is complicit with every hate crime against Jews and Israelis.
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That's okay, Andrey having terrible Hebrew just means that he's eligible to morph into the final form of all Russian Olim in 40+ years: the plastic chair sidewalk grandpa. Bonus points if it's in front of a store front with *Путин хуйло!* graffiti. Personally I'm a bit jealous of that trajectory, haha. It does make me feel worse for Andrey in captivity, the same way I feel terrible for many of the foreign workers. There is a released Thai hostage who talked about how terrible it was because he didn't speak Arabic, Hebrew, or English and only one of the other hostages (Yotam Haim) tried to speak with him anyway. Almog and Andrey seem bonded for life, so I'm at least happy to hear that it seems like he had it a bit better. Thank you for letting me know about Andrey! I never want to stereotype, so it's nice to have some details.
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In a normal place with a functioning government and the rule of law, I would definitely agree with that. But Gaza isn't a normal place. If Hamas tells you to do something in Gaza and you don't want to do it, can you say no? If that angered them and they decided to punish you, would anyone help you? I'm not saying that any of the things you cite are right to do or that anyone should feel good about doing them. But what would happen if Hamas wanted to store weapons in your home and you didn't want them to? There is no other authority to seek help from, right? This is why we need to think about and plan for the "day after". When the IDF pulls out, there has to be someone credible and powerful enough to offer Gazans a chance to reject Hamas.
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2024-10-06
Its completely reasonable for the USA to prioritise its citizens. I'm not sure they'll get a deal though. What do they have that Hamas wants other than forcing Israel to leave, which they can't do.
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2024-10-06
Thailand did this for it's hostages in November when Israel was getting some hostages out. Russia did something similar but not all alive Russian hostages were released? The agreement was confusing for Russia.
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2024-10-06
Russia doesn’t give a shit about its own people
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Noa was pretty high value for them too. They were going to hold on to her until the very end
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Yeah but Russia announced that they told Hamas to release all of their Russian hostages, then didn't react when Hamas didn't. It was weird.
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Numbers are way higher then both of those, I can find multiple sources talking about close to 15k as of may. It’s been averaging around 200-300 a day for a long time now. 35k total https://www.ynetnews.com/article/r1itpzvrc#:~:text=According%20to%20findings%20presented%20by,COGAT's%20records%20show%2034%2C199%20trucks. 1.2k in a single day https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-claims-highest-single-day-number-of-aid-trucks-enters-gaza-since-war-began/amp/ Even aj reports 300 in one day https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/4/8/more-than-300-aid-trucks-enter-gaza-as-palestinians-battle-starvation UNRWA 200+ a day https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-war-hamas-aid-trucks-unrwa-30173642b5c298c829f1457db357071e I think it’s pretty interesting that there are basically no English sources talking about total numbers, all the non Israelis are talking about daily numbers which still end up way more then your estimates
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2024-10-06
And using UN vehicles. Actually fucking crazy that it's not talked about in media.
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2024-10-06
To rape and slaughter more Jews. That’s what they want.
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2024-10-06
Mosab ("son of Hamas", "Green Prince") said that Hamas captives are quite willing to talk because they know they're screwed anyway.
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2024-10-06
This is a false narrative- people have been coming and going from Palestine forever. Life before 10/7 was much better than many other places - they had hospitals, infrastructure, they were receiving money from the whole world, they could travel and their population grew handily. They still did Irans bidding
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2024-10-06
I will not allow us to omit Iran from blame The whole thing is Irans fault
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2024-10-06
That's not a hypothetical.... Except for the hostage piece https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_(1993) US forces, under the UN flag. Trying to kill a couple of terrorists, not rescue hostages. About 300 dead. No condemnations.
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2024-10-06
Many Americans don’t realize how often the military is used to rescue Americans taken hostage. Captain Phillips was not a random event that the military isn’t ready for
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2024-10-06
Wow, that makes a lot of sense.
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2024-10-06
This is the correct statement
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2024-10-06
Either he was innocent and killed because of Hamas's actions or he was guilty and died because of his own.
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2024-10-06
If I had to guess, Hamas is getting desperate and is finally willing to cut reasonable deals. They had zero reason to negotiate the last four months as the entire world would constantly ham string Israel's efforts to stop Hamas.
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2024-10-06
All of that is correct. I wouldn't call my comments "not correct", though  Basically, it started the same way as this operation - special forces go in, get attacked by locals, send in air force to get the special forces out, with significant local casualties. The difference is that the Israelis were more successful. 
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> Maybe some of them will finally prioritize Israel over their political needs. But I won't hold my breath. Especially when the previous "change" government was the one who came up with that law to begin with (When Gantz was the minister of defense - he was the one who proposed it). And now the media and the opposition claim that it was "different times" and only a temporary measure. If you'd read that law, you'd see that it was designed for 30 years. It states the percentage of drafted Haredi youth over a period of 30 years. How's that a temporary solution? How does the minister of defense, with the advice of the military not take into account future wars? It was obvious that a war with Hezbollah is only a matter of time (no one thought Hamas could pull what they did off, but Hezbollah is an order of magnitude stronger). Only because it's Bibi, people think this law is "draft dodge". When Gantz put it forward, it was a good law. No one thought of protesting against it.
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2024-10-06
Is northern Israel still on fire?
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2024-10-06
And jealousy!
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2024-10-06
It is a law that lets people dodge drafts. Idk what to tell you. If you're angry at the thing being called after what it does, maybe you should be angry at it no matter who promotes it. Kind of like you implied people should. 
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I was seeing a few defenses of the "journalist" this morning. About how they were in the way, in an apartment complex, no way they could've known about the hostages. This video does a good job shitting on those flimsy arguments.
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Not currently
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2024-10-06
Cool. Thank you
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2024-10-06
"big if" literally just happened. Israel, however,
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2024-10-06
Which is, in fact, what happened
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Israel has already "accepted" it as they are the ones who made it in the first place (under American pressure, granted). There's a written proposal waiting for Hamas' answer, it's been there for a week. If Hamas accepted, I doubt it would collapse the coalition - Smotrich and Ben Gvir know that Netanyahu is the only one willing to ally with them, and that if they collapse this government, they are never ever going to be in a government again. They would scream and whine and bitch... and then fall in line.
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2024-10-06
I’m no lawyer, but I’m pretty sure if you are holding hostages in your home you don’t quite meet the definition of innocent civilian 
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So far all I’ve seen is the US calling on hamas to accept it…. And declaring that Israel has accepted it
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2024-10-06
Yeah you're no lawyer
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Can you please link to a source on this? I’m not seeing it anywhere
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2024-10-06
Interesting. I was hoping to get rid of them and that they are too hardcore ideologically to stay with the deal being implemented/ know they will lose their base if they stay.
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2024-10-06
Where are you seeing this? I’m seeing that Hamas has not yet submitted a reply but welcomed the security council vote.
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2024-10-06
Needs an official writeup but [https://x.com/michellenichols/status/1800256994341007395](https://x.com/michellenichols/status/1800256994341007395) here you go, Reuters correspondent
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Yea I found that but it doesn’t say they accept it, just welcome this development and are willing to enter negotiations…. I mean I’m hoping for a ceasefire but this language sounds vague to me Edit: this is what I was looking at https://www.barrons.com/amp/news/hamas-says-welcomes-un-security-council-vote-on-us-drafted-gaza-ceasefire-resolution-5baf0e9f
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2024-10-06
I saw somewhere that when they got to Noa Argamani, they put her over their shoulder and carried Herz at least for a bit.
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You’re right it’s analogous in a lot of ways, but a lot of the facts in your first post are wrong. Task Force Ranger was NOT part of the UN mission. They never intended to kill the “terrorists”. In fact they were captured according to the plan. That’s about the one thing that went right. It’s all right there in the link you provided.
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2024-10-06
This war is not stopping them from existing…. It’s only stopping bibi from going to jail. We live in a highly imperfect world where there are no good choices
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2024-11-06
I doubt I have to say this here, but I ventured into another community and was shocked how serious people were taking this, so: there is almost no chance that the three hostages Hamas claimed were killed on Saturday were actually killed during the raid. *If* they are hostages, and *if* they were killed on Saturday -- and those are big if's -- it's almost certainly Hamas' doing in retaliation. Hamas likes to announce things quickly (remember how fast Noa Argamani's propaganda video went from "wait and see what happens next!" to dropping that Itai and Yossi were killed?). I think the longest they've ever waited was 7 days and that was for an "announcement" not widely picked up. We admitted that Sahar was killed fairly quickly, we admitted to killing Yotam Haim, Samar Talalka, and Alon Shamriz the same day that it happened, etc. There is no reason to think that we wouldn't have done the same here. The only possibility I see, and it's a very small possibility at that, is if there was a 3rd pod of hostages nearby that the IDF had no idea about and that Hamas killed out of fear that they were next -- exactly what the IDF feared Hamas would do to Noa if they just got Almog, Shlomi, and Andrey first, as intended. For the amount that they presumably surveillanced this place, though, that would be a stretch.
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2024-11-06
I’m not sure it would be practicable or meaningful. What does a rebellion against Hamas look like? Just more chaos. It’s not like a functional government would spontaneously emerge.
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2024-11-06
4 more Israeli soldiers have fallen. While the IDF from a military standpoint has done an INCREDIBLE job, it hurts me so much to lose more Israeli heroes
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> It's just kicking the conflict into the next decade (if even that) The greatest political minds of the last century have tried to solve this conflict and that's the best any of them could ever get out of it, so why do we think Joe Biden can do any better? Any person that actually figures out a way to make these two factions of people live in harmony should be considered the greatest geopolitical mind of the entire millennium and have the Nobel Peace Prize named after them.
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Why the fuck IDF is not learning when this is happening often and frequently, only this month and including this, this is the third time they lost group of 4 soldiers to IED and Bobby Trap Explosion planted in building. Just few days ago they were sending drones to check the building and did discover the Bobby Traps, so why not do that instead of sending young soldiers to die again.
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2024-11-06
Sirens in west Haifa.
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>According to an initial IDF probe, the troops had thrown an explosive inside a suspicious home in Rafah’s Shaboura neighborhood, in an attempt to trigger any possible traps, and entered after there was no immediate blast. As two soldiers entered the three-story building, it exploded, causing part of it to collapse on some of the soldiers. Inside the home, the IDF later found a tunnel shaft, indicating the building likely belonged to a Hamas operative.
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honestly i live near the port and i hear interceptors going off all day long. the other night i woke up and heard it, lol. whatever.
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