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I hate when when these brain dead pro Palestinians keep calling me European. as a Moroccan/Yemeni jew who's family got expelled to israel. I have nothing to do with Europe. These people can't comprehend simple facts without having a psychotic meltdown and screaming hassbare. Apparently 20% muslim arab population are non existent as well they are mossad agents
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2024-11-06
Funny how any headline mentioning Israel brings out the neo nazi leftist in force(insane that neo nazi leftist is a term describing tens of thousand on this site) It drowns out any actual discussion about the subject.
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2024-11-06
Intel has an R&D dept? I thought only Nvidia and AMD do /s.
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2024-11-06
It might be just so obsolete it’s cheaper to rebuild in lower cost of living area
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2024-11-06
It is because of isrseli ties that I will only use an Intel chip in my build.
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2024-11-06
Most people here didn't read the article and it shows
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2024-11-06
RemindMe! 1 Year
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2024-11-06
There is a new one being built in upstate ny
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2024-11-06
Thank you for some good news this morning.
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2024-11-06
Idk why you’d put it in Israel. Politics aside that place has been in conflict for decades with no sign of stopping.
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2024-11-06
Don't you worry, Intel does not give a singular fuck about the genocide. It's a purely selfish move to protect their own assets in fear of war in the region destroying their investment. They've been happy to particupate in the slow genocide of Palestinians for decades and they refuse to actulaly condemn Israel as an apartheid state, this isn't an act of protest at all. On the bright side, this does mean that the current military resistance to Israel is having a material effect on their economy. Even if US corporations are psychopaths, Israel being forced into this situation where foreign money isn't willing ot invest in them due to the inevitable war that will break out as they continue their genocide does mean there's hope that the genocide will end before everyone's been murdered or driven out. I hope it is one domino, that it'll spook a lot of companies to pull out and force Israel to end apartheid if only to not immediatley collapse, but even if not I'm fine with some spite at least.
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2024-11-06
Nah fam they will build it in eastern ukraine
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2024-11-06
That subreddit's been awful for ages, racist as shit. It really shouldn't be a default sub anymore.
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2024-11-06
"the cognitive dissonance is real, if shown reality they would all want to live as the wealthy american expats vs as the literal targets of a genocide."
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2024-11-06
The only things you used to be able to count on was death, taxes, and stability in the Middle East. What is this world coming to?
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2024-11-06
Yeah don't give them any leverage
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2024-11-06
You're just moving goalposts. I don't agree with the MIC but that doesn't mean the US is propping up Israel. It's a mutual relationship like many of our allies, we just happen to be the ones with money.
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2024-11-06
That account doesn't understand why the UN, ICC, etc would rule against israel. If they just turned on a computer and watched or heard the UN livestreams in the background while working, they'd have new opinions in a week. Different countries and the majority of the world explaining reasoning, showing proof, etc.
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2024-11-06
I could also imagine there's some other things that makes it so building a whole new factory is preferable over refitting old buildings Probably hard to get an insurance company to insure your new multi million precision machine with rather unique components as an example I could also imagine they would prefer a building with less Windows than most older factories Its alot easier to make sure each section/department have just the right environment/temp for that specific part/material in a new building too There's 100% a very long And comprehensible list out there with alot more reasons as to why they wont do it like that
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2024-11-06
> multinational companies That's the problem right there. Companies should be tied to a country.
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2024-11-06
That was probably the best move. Ignoring the current blacklash you’d get from investors Israel is becoming more and more a risky investment for any corporation. Sure you could build the place but what’s the chances it just gets hit by a terrorist attack? You already know multiple nations have vested interests in the destruction of infrastructure in Israel and it’s not like the Israeli government is putting the effort of minimizing those risks. In fact they seem hell bound to encourage this state of affairs It just makes sense to pull out critical infrastructure from a country currently at war and likely to have a considerable insurgency for decades to come
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2024-11-06
I don’t know, if you look historically, the average timeline for wars for israel is about every ten years. The issue with this war is that it is so long.
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2024-11-06
OK, all the big companies are now based in Cayman Islands.
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2024-11-06
I think you can look at the UN record to see it has an anti-Israel bias. Including having a special definition of 'refugee' that only ever applies to Palestinians. [https://unwatch.org/the-case-against-unrwa/](https://unwatch.org/the-case-against-unrwa/)
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2024-11-06
that the US is getting something out of isreal does not change at all that it is propping up israel. the US needs israel to exist, but israel cannot exist without the US, which is why efforts to end the genocide have focused a lot on the US. the moment hte US withdraws its support, israel loses its ability to continue its apartheid and would collapse within a matter of days. israel is *immensely* dependent on foreign aid to function, it requires an *absurd* level of violence to maintain its domination over the indigenous popluation. you're also conflating the US state with the people living in the US. the MIC is basically a money pit that only benefits weapons manufacturers and other US corporations reliant on US imperialism to violently extract resources from other countries, the more money it gets the worse the situation in the US gets for regular people as that money turns into political power which gets used to prop up the right wing and austerity politics. very few people actually benefit from this arrangement, it's just those people hold power.
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2024-11-06
you put something important like intel solutions in israel and you get israel leaning decisions from those solutions.......
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2024-11-06
You're article says nothing about renegotiating a deal either. It basically says the exact same thing as Reuters. I'm fact it goes in to say that the execs that were going to be at the new plant are now in Ohio, implying that it isn't a renegotiation.  It is very perplexing that you painted a narrative with an article that says nothing about your narrative.
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2024-11-06
They need some in the north idk why they going south- unless it's tax reasons
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2024-11-06
It's a huge subreddit, how is it like that do you think?
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2024-11-06
And then what? Sell everything 50x more than the actual cost? No thank you.
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2024-11-06
What are you talking about? Intel chips have used Israeli contributions for nearly their entire time in business. It was 'OK' last year, 10 years ago, 20 years ago...
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2024-11-06
Its a great excuse. For little return.
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2024-11-06
Intel's done great falling behind TSMC, AMD, Samsung, Qualcomm, and Nvidia!
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2024-11-06
Columbus Ohio plant supposedly coming on line in 2027.
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https://www.ynetnews.com/business/article/bytj11ksb0 >Finance Ministry senior officials who are leading the Intel deal and spoke with Calcalist, said there’s no planned change in Intel's investment volume in Israel nor in the grants the government is expected to transfer to the company. Calcalist learned that following media reports on the matter, the Finance Ministry contacted the highest senior officials at Intel Israel, and the company clarified the issue arose from a contract change with a contractor, and it isn’t expected a project of this scale wouldn’t be forced to reschedule. >"Israel continues to be one of our key global production and R&D sites, and we remain committed to the region,” Intel said in a statement. "As said previously, the scope and pace of Intel's production expansion at company sites worldwide depend on several variable factors. Managing a project of this scale, especially in our industry, typically includes schedule adjustments. Our decisions are based on business conditions, market dynamics, and responsible capital management."
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2024-11-06
Do you think the US using its veto power to shut down every cease fire vote during this genocide (in favor of Israel) is an okay thing to do?
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2024-11-06
I can actually provide a source unlike the guy I was calling out. Here: https://www.politico.eu/article/norway-prime-minister-jonas-gahr-store-recognize-state-palestine/ Israel has not been convicted of a single genocide since its founding, other countries who perpetrated genocide were convicted but I guess they just skipped Israel or something? That point is made up. Saying that Israel-Palestine isn't a complicated conflict just shows that you dont know enough about it or are arguing in bad faith.
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2024-11-06
so they can install Pegasus right at the hardware level
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2024-11-06
We're talking about different things. 'Iron Dome' is what people colloquially call Israels integrated air defence network. I don't think they meant the specific Iron Dome system. It's a slogan, they live under the Iron Dome. Gives them a sense or security. My point regarding saturation is that before this war, it hadn't happened. Their perception was that they were invulnerable. And i understand that, but it's not a good thing. Nothing makes a country more aggressive than perceiving that it's invulnerable.
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2024-11-06
To be fair the ICC hasent reached a verdict yet. But I will eat Intel chips for a week if they do get a guilty verdict. Also the west bank palestinians live under "apartheid like" conditions. But yea splurting out buzzwords in a rabid manner is cringe.
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2024-11-06
The reason why a lot of effort is put into US isn't because US is propping up Israel but because US and Israel have good relations and US can influence Israel Despite all the overblown stuff, Israel is not committing genocide. If they wanted to commit genocide, Gaza would be completely gone in a week. Now if US were to leave, then who knows, they may decide it isn't worth holding back anymore and best to get it over with
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I work in IP, a lot of research is stolen and brought back there. Very similar to China sending PhD's all over the world to steal research. Granted almost every country is complicit in this behavior, but China & Israel are the top and very brazen about it.
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2024-11-06
Right back atchya!
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2024-11-06
My crystal ball is telling me you're 22 yo or less with weird dyed hair.
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2024-11-06
No, I understand that. But is that area actually threatened with strikes? Cuz the high-value targets are Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.
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2024-11-06
I *guarantee* that I’m more knowledgeable about this subject than you are. I’ve been following it for a LONG time. What this provides me with is clarity, which you’re clearly lacking. Everything you have said is 100%, patently false. Where are you pulling the 70% of Jews are from Arab countries!?! Rubbish. The vast majority of Jews in Occupied Palestine are from Europe as they escaped during and after WW2. You’re just pulling numbers out of your @$$. The so called raping and pillaging has been debunked by several accredited news sources. So anything beyond that is just spewing IDF propaganda talking points. None of that happened. And you close it out by proving me right by admitting that the most immoral army in the region is going to always behave like an occupying terror force. This is THE root cause of the resistance. Don’t brutally occupy a people, there won’t be any retribution sought. Pretty simple formula, huh.
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2024-11-06
They are also building another one in Malta.
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2024-11-06
You are making the mistake of thinking about how decisions impact people. The people who made these choices were thinking about money.
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2024-11-06
That’s nice but bombs
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2024-11-06
Intel is a big multi-national company that's doing both. It is investing in US fabs, it's building multiple of them.
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2024-11-06
It's anti-semitic not to
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2024-11-06
Another person mentioned nukes as well, because people are fucking ghouls. But yeah, you can't use nukes to maintain internal stability. Israel doesn't need to be externally invaded to fall, South Africa couldn't have nuked all the black people in order to prevent the collapse of apartheid. They want to actually occupy the land they're ethnically cleansing and that means a ground invasion, which is going to be slow no matter what. But it is telling how these mouthpieces love to say "Oh, you're think we're commiting genocide *now*? You have no clue how much more depraved we're willing to get!"
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No, it wouldn't take a week. They can't nuke the place because then it would be uninhabitable and Israel is a settler colonial state, and what made the Holocaust such a rapid genocide was the establishment of death camps for industrialized murder, something that Israel can't establish, which limits the speed at which they can murder women and children to the speed at which they can acquire expensive weapons to do so. Israel is trying to speed up this process by cutting off aid to literally starve people to death as a famine is about as fast as they can murder people logistically speaking. "This isn't a genocide, we could totally do the exact same thing we're doing but faster!" isn't the defense you think it is, and God willing it'll fall on deaf ears in the Hague.
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2024-11-06
You have things entirely backwards. Suggesting that Israel uses rocket attacks against other countries is laughable. Other than some small arms IDF does not have rockets in it's arsenal. Israel has used air strikes mostly in response to massive rocket attacks from other countries.
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2024-11-06
I love Jews. I hate Israelis. Deal with it.
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2024-11-06
I worked on one! And drive by the tsmc plant in AZ
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2024-11-06
Israel is (was?) subsidising by $3 billion
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Since when do you need consent to view a public blog? I mean, I get the potential problems with AI vacuuming up stuff like this, but why would anyone expect the kids to provide consent?
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2024-11-06
Sure, but they are still using personal data without permission. Corporations like Google have opted to not allow companies to use their platform to train ML models. Why is it ok for companies to use personal data then?
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>And the court sided with NY Times. Where did you hear this? As far as Ive heard this hasnt gone to court, and will likely take years.
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Never mind they did file the suit, but yeah your correct it hasn’t started yet. But still, it did put a wedge for other companies to back off when using content (from let’s say NY Times) versus using content from normal people. Realistically no suit has been fought, but in application it made it so no other companies/open source devs want to risk a legal battle. Where as normal people still doesn’t have such protection, and companies/open source orgs know normal people don’t hold any sort of legal threat as of now. In technicallity I was incorrect so I admit that. In application, the result is still the same.
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2024-11-06
You don't think AI models should be able to train using images that people post on public websites for the whole world to see? Are you also opposed to search engines crawling public internet sites where people post picture and videos in order to index them so the can appear in search results? Do you think it's OK for random humans to visit public websites where people post their pictures and videos? Where exactly are you drawing the line here?
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2024-11-06
People can't comprehend what that means
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2024-11-06
At the same time, companies seem to enjoy a double standard of both not owning (in terms of responsibility) and owning (in terms of sales) your data. This whole AI thing might be what finally blows the lid open on who owns (and is responsible for) our data.
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2024-11-06
No one seems to mention the millions and millions of security cameras that are uploading images and video. Guess they think that is all still stored on a VHS tape that gets recorded over every week. lol
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2024-11-06
Because they, unlike adults, can or did not consent to their images being shared publicly. If a person I know uploads a picture with me on it, I can tell them to please take it down. A lot of kids these days will probably learn about data privacy one day only to realize that their parents have shared hundreds of pictures without their consent. And that those picture were used to train all kinds of AI models and there's nothing they can do about that.
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I don’t mind my stuff going into an AI grinder. I would however like to hear what I’m being offered before choosing to allow it, if I own my data. Mostly because if I own something and it’s used without consent, my standard fee is one dollar per Kb, doubling each day of missed payment.
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2024-11-06
If it's free, you're the product
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2024-11-06
Its kinda weird that things you'd never think you'd have to consent for before suddenly needs consent now.
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2024-11-06
> Since when do you need consent to view a public blog? You don't, this isn't about viewing a blog though
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2024-11-06
no, you are the product even if you pay...in one case, your data gets sold when the company gets sold and many more examples... see the adobe scandal too
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2024-11-06
I caN de a shitty product if i tryes
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2024-11-06
Companies escalated ways they intrude upon our rights. It started very simple: "we give you free platform to host your website or blog and we will show your visitors random ads". That was okay. Next step was analyzing things people do and post to make ads targeted. At one point they decided they can sell your data with simple ToS change. Companies' mentality about data ownership changed faster than people's habits.
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2024-11-06
There is this little thing, called "consent".
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It used to be different. It used to be that in exchange for a platform to host my content for free someone else would earn money from ads.
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2024-11-06
Sure but you have to put some blame on these shitty companies.
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2024-11-06
You mean the kind of violation that we “tin foil hat conspiracy theorists” have been warning about forever? No way!
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A: depending on the quality of the ai, faces can still sometimes be reverse image searched B: more likely than taking a generated image and looking for the original, is taking a picture you know is in the model and using face descriptions, start generating images with a face that looks a lot like the kid you are trying to bully C: if you make money on ai from data you scraped from the whole internet, you should pay a tax that feeds into a UBI program
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Really? It's funny to me that when people didn't think about it. Maybe because I am pre-internet but I assumed that everything we post on any website now belongs to somebody else. And that they WILL use it for selling me crap, use it for messed up purposes or taking away my freedom in some ways. I mean Alexa and Siri is a listening device. You can't trust that.
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2024-11-06
Without consent....? Did you not read terms of service, they own you
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I'm one of those people. And while I didn't have AI on my Bingo card, I have always assumed my text and photos would be used for something that would piss me off and make me feel ooky. I just accepted the ookiness of knowing I'd be taken advantage of in some way and posted or just didn't post.
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2024-11-06
Uh oh you hit a nerve
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Up for interpretation, but it's meant to invoke fear and conversation
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2024-11-06
can we take away the internet connections of editors that publish moronic headlines like this
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2024-11-06
This is silly. Submarines use nearly weapons grade uranium in their reactors (which is how they can run for 30 years) and have enough for many weapon primaries and secondaries. Each nuclear fission reaction releases a well known average energy. If you need X energy you need Y fissions * E efficiency.
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2024-11-06
And a laptop battery has as much energy as a hand grenade 🤷
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Should have built a bomb instead
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Isn't that every rocket? Did GPT write this?
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Are you having a stroke
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Nuclear bad
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perhaps a weapon to surpass?
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And what about it?
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Try again decepticon
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>The joint statement by the two privacy watchdogs says they will work collaboratively to investigate the scope of the information compromised in the October data breach and potential harms to individuals, whether 23andMe had adequate safeguards in place, and whether the company provided adequate notification on the breach to Canadian and British regulators as outlined under the countries’ respective privacy laws. > >In an emailed response, 23andMe says they acknowledge the investigation and they intend to cooperate with the regulators’ “reasonable requests.” > >... > >According to this investigation, 23andMe found its system was compromised through a method called “credential stuffing.” Essentially, this is when a bad actor uses the username and password from an outside data breach that matched a 23andMe account. > >The company says it has no indication the data security incident took place within its own systems. > >In their emailed response to questions, 23andMe says they continue to notify customers impacted by the data breach. Since then, they required all users to reset their passwords and made two-factor authentication mandatory. The company's response is fine, though it's also mostly closing the barn doors after the horses have bolted. It will be interesting to see what this investigation by these two nations' privacy watchdogs will find, and whether 23andMe has breached any privacy laws during the course of this breach and beyond.
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Never send this level of personal information in this time of fascist extremism and weak-walled data pools. This is scary.
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