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Air defence system hiding from things that fly lol
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“It’s cool when they do it, it’s a problem when I do it”
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Wait so for Hamas they only investigates Oct 7th but for Israel they investigated everything they wanted to
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2024-13-06
Obviously a common sense reason to strip the clothes of detained terrorists
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2024-13-06
The only reason Hamas got that little slap on the wrist is so the UN can try to say they weren't being biased when denouncing Israel. If Israel never invaded Gaza after October 7th there would be no such report on Hamas war crimes and the UN wouldn't give a shit.
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2024-13-06
>Hamas is actually exterminating their own people by provoking Israel and then using human shields. So Isreal *is* exterminating them, you just think that its justified. Like you're not even disputing the claim here you're just shifting the blame
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2024-13-06
I actually don't think it's justified. But sadly Hamas wanted to use rape murder and kidnapping as a political tool so here we are. What's good for the goose is good for the gander I guess!! You reap what you sow.
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2024-13-06
100% agree. The commission of atrocities is undeniable at the individual level, but to inflate this into the crime of extermination is just jaw dropping. The essence of their argument is that Israel is expanding the definition of who is targetable and has thus violated proportionality in general. To then claim that this loosening or blurring of lines must then be considered ‘extermination’ rather than something more staid and reasonable is not just bizarre, it’s egregious in its application of the term. A fucking Hail Mary reading of the LOAC and international law.
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2024-13-06
Serious question: How are Hamas going to be held accountable for their war crimes? They aren't about to surrender willingly and face trial. Their Islamic state allies aren't pressuring them to end the war. The UN and ICJ definitely aren't going into Gaza to arrest them. What does justice (if there even will be any) look like for this conflict?
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2024-13-06
There is no jury on this earth which will ever convict someone who stopped an active rape with deadly force. You'd get a fucking medal.
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2024-13-06
I don't know why we're still pretending that "whoops it's a war zone" when Israel's targeting methods and policies have been made public. "20 civilians for 1 low-ranking combatant" is acceptable and they're explicitly bombing people when they're at home with their families. Condemn it, support it, whatever. But it's silly pretending that this is not happening and those civilian casualties are just people running in the middle of a tank battle or something or babies strapped to Hamas fighters.
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2024-13-06
Navi Pillay is a giant red flag
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2024-13-06
"Rapesistance" as it's called.
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2024-13-06
Stop with this billshit right wing tactic of taking random 'leftist' words and tainting it by association with any random evil you can think of. That's not intersectionality at all. At a basic level, it's a very obvious thing - somewho is vulnerable in multiple ways can be more severely affected than someone who isnt. For example, some who is homeless and disabled will likely be more disadvantaged that someone who is just homeless, or just disabled. It has absolutely no relation to the disgusting justification of rape and violence used by racists.
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2024-13-06
You are delusional, but I will repeat since you seem to have not taken the information in. I did not say Hamas was innocent. I even very specifically said that I didn’t say this in my response to you. Please stop pretending that’s what I said. I don’t think anybody is saying Isreal shouldn’t defend itself. I’m not. But that doesn’t mean the actions they have taken are justified. And it’s why we need to have outside organisations to hold people accountable when war crimes are being committed. Which they are, whether you like it or not.
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That one is definitively untrue. And for a source, here is an official israeli government site, detailing out the names and manner of death of all the victims on the day https://www.gov.il/en/pages/swords-of-iron-civilian-casualties#Civilian%20casualties
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Yes, he wants land, but without the people. Hence, genocide
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To be fair, the US isn't financially supporting Russia, while it does support Israel and Gaza (via the UNRWA). It wouldn't make sense to protest Russia unless you were trying to change what someone is doing. Like you could protest at a Burger King, I guess.
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Only 60%?!
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2024-13-06
That percentage is way too low. Well, as the saying goes, "there's lies, big lies, and statistics".
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2024-13-06
What do the other 40% think ???
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2024-13-06
Yeah.. that's quite terrifying
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2024-13-06
38M Ukrainians, they hardly asked all of them
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2024-13-06
That is because it is a stated objecting of Putin and the Kremlin: everything they’ve said and everything they’ve done up to now points to the erasure of Ukraine as a nation and Ukrainians as a distinct people.  This is genocide. 
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Ukraine was heavily infiltrated by russian garbage people during Soviet times. Especially urban areas. It's actually miraculously high number and it is a really great sign. EDIT: And don't forget that russian propaganda is working 32 hours a day these days and infiltrate even ukrainian speaking communities.
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2024-13-06
You do know how statistics work?
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You know how polling works right
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2024-13-06
Whatever propaganda says, unfortunately.
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But do we know what pool of participants participated?
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And the other 40% have already been genocides or are technically Russians that are illegally occupying Ukraine.
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It should make sense to protest Russia because they need people to focus on the war in Israel vs Hamas to gain control of Ukraine. Because of that focus, they have been winning a lot of grounds lately. What do you prefer? Protesting a war between two religious groups in an ongoing conflict that lasted more than half a century and that will never end unless one wins it all. With both parties asking for full control of the territories and the genocide of the other. Or An illegal unprovoked invasion of a country that never asked for anything more than being independant? Knowing that Hamas provoked Israel to attack them, I rather support Ukraine.
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not really, many likely think its "simply" a war of conquest, genocide in as the traditional definition is highly unlikely, why kill the population when you could mass conscript it by force in the Russian army to use against someone else? You just need a couple traitors like Kadyrov in Chechniaa to mantain order and you are golden
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2024-13-06
Should be less. They don’t want “genocide”, at least not in a literal manner. It would be a waste for the Russians to just kill all the Ukrainians.
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2024-13-06
and the other 40 percent are just too polite to say it...
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2024-13-06
Sure, but you're ignoring my point. The protests aren't to get Israel to change anything. They're to get the protestor's government (or school) to stop funding Israel. No one's protesting Russia because so many people stopped contributing to anything to do with Russia at the start of the war.
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Certainly that this is 'only' a war of conquest and not a genicidal one for most of them
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>murder in a planned premeditated way which is what the holocaust *supposedly* was against the Jews . Emphasis mine. Trust me guys, this is a 100% serious person/bot.
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Russian armed forces have bombed hospitals and schools, tortured medics, attacked ambulances, and looted clinics. Russia has firebombed cities, targeted civilian infrastructure, killed thousands of civilians, and [bombed maternity hospitals](https://cnn.com/interactive/2022/03/europe/mariupol-maternity-hospital-attack/index.html) and shelters marked with the word “Children.”  So how exactly is the Russian army "going out of their way to reduce civilian colateral damage?"
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WTF do the other 40% think? Russias army just got lost on the way to the market?
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I mean their main goal is to expand their influence to create a larger state where there is no free speech, no freedom to be who you want to be, and zero freedom to pursue relationships with you want to be with. At the very core of their government and society Russia is corrupt, irrational, and moving in the opposite direction of the modern world. They don't support their citizens freedoms because the state clutches to irrational dogma. Hope they enjoy clutching worthless pearls as they're slowly eradicated from global influence due to being massive shitheads.
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It's kind of a strange theory though. Russia has been trying to dominate Ukraine for centuries. This isn't just Putin but also Khrushchev, Stalin, Nicholas II, Catherine the Great... We've seen Russian soldiers go into countless countries over the centuries and every time it's the same old story. They subjugate the people and ensure a government that is loyal to Moscow. The war in Ukraine is literally the same exact playbook and if Ukraine falls Russia will keep moving into neighboring countries, eliminating resistance and forcing loyalty to Moscow. Whether the country has natural gas or not is mostly irrelevant although I'm sure Russia would never say "no" to more natural gas either.
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35% of any given people are straight up stupid. Source: am American.
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Guys, the US and the UK pushed Ukraine into this, Russia would have stopped after less than three months having reached their objectives. They already had treaties ready.
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It's about empire building. Moscow wants to subjugate Ukraine and take over it's people and it's resources so they can then move on and subjugate more people and more lands and keep growing. This is how Moscow has operated for centuries.
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Just 60%. What other reason could it be at this point
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Because Russia abandons its allies and refuses to defend them when they're under attack. Russia is an unreliable ally.
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Okay, so what you're saying is that they are paying attention, they're just *fucking stupid*.
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>lol Russia can’t even take Ukraine. Get real Ukraine has 40x more people than Estonia and they had 8 years to prepare for the full scale invasion and it was still a dog fight despite Russia completely fucking up the initial invasion. All Russia needs is for the EU/NATO to elect a few more isolationists, cripple Article 5 and then the baltics are in deep shit if Putin decides a Baltic campaign is a nice way to wash off the stench of failure from Ukraine. Hell, even the US alone pulling out of NATO might be enough to shatter unity. Lots of people looking to themselves these days.
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No, that would be you. It's precisely what defines you.
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Have you been living in a cave for the last few years?
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I wish people would go back and watch that speech more. Often times you see people claim that Ukraine should just trade some land for peace and yet if Putin (and most powerful Russians) share the view that Ukraine doesn't really exist then any peace is going to be temporary. Russia will rearm and then restart the war later on when it's more convenient for them. This could be especially dire if various prominent western countries have isolationist leaders when Russia restarts the war or if Ukraine hands over the Donbas where many of their strongest defensive lines are built.
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Putin banked on Trump winning, and when he lost, Putin was on a timer. If he took too long, Ukraine would have been too prepared. Trump is a pussy bitch who idolizes dictators that wants to get rid of NATO and thinks the way to solve the War in Ukraine is to have Ukraine surrender unconditionally.
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well, duh. their plan is to do ethnic cleansing. it's not like it's a secret, they've been doing it for the past 150 years. It's ingrained in their culture.
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tbf, so is the US in that regard.
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> This is a Russia with an existential crisis of their own doing This is an existential crisis for Putin but not for Russia. The average Russian would be vastly better off if the war ended and Russia abandoned their militarism but that would probably spell the end for Putin and his regime.
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> especially the countries with a significant ethnic ~~Russian~~ *partisan* community At this point, it's hard to believe them when they say they're there because they like the country more than they like Russia.
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I think it is too and I am not Ukrainian
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> The fact you still believe mainstream is laughable Love the empty slogans while missing the point. That's the first link that ddg showed that has Trump licking Putins balls and taint like a beaten dog, ain't got nothing to do with source of it. Repeating keyphrases like an algorithm shows you're not cabable of processing new information but just baa like a sheep. Stop believing what rich people tell you to think, just listen what they say and make your own decisions based on it.
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Steps 1 and 3 were read. Good sir, where in God's holy fuck do you think we are right now??!! ;) wedontdothathere.jpeg
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Russia's main goal is to control the trillions of $$ of minerals (rare and otherwise) in Ukraine...most of which is located in the Dombas region (surprise surprise). However they want to achieve this goal via genocide and destruction of the nation. Ironically though, they won't win and their country will be destroyed instead, economically and millions of dead/wounded. Russia is also using their ethnic minorities to fight the battles....ethnically cleansing even Russia itself.... Russia truly is modern day Nazi Germany
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Spot on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
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2024-13-06
Smart people.
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Yeah it's just interesting because Russia has pretty clearly stated their goal is to wipe the Ukrainian nation from the earth
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Russia is unironically doing the Nazi Playbook. Danzig or war lmao. Yet they are saying they are coming to Denazify Ukraine.
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shell and exxon were going to do just that when russia invaded back in 2014 putting a halt to it. it was clearly one of the reasons they invaded. the only reason? certainly not, but it was a pressing and important issue back then. edit: https://www.industryweek.com/the-economy/article/21962486/shell-ends-talks-with-ukraine-on-black-sea-gas
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Lol, sure kid. You get points for effort I guess. Enjoy having bad takes and calling people stupid when you can't understand why you're wrong.
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2024-13-06
I thought Russia's Main goal was Gay Rape with the sheer amount of man on man rape they are doing.
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2024-13-06
What do the other 40% believe?!?!
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60% of Ukrainians believe this and yet Ukraine is having such manpower issues? You’d think out of those 60% at least 10% of the men would scurry to join the war effort? Yet so many have fled and many more Ukrainians are dodging the draft anyway they can.
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That's why I mentioned NATO would have to fall apart before they're vulnerable, but Russia is actively working on making this happening and many important NATO members are on the verge of electing anti-NATO leaders. It's not that far fetched.
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“If this is genocide why wouldn’t they turn <country> to glass” /s I have a feeling there are people who consider this conflict a genocide, but not the one in Palestine. Including Joe Brandon
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2024-13-06
Did the other 40% die in this genocide and destruction?
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2024-13-06
They want to protect their precious Crimea and Black Sea, warm water port, that isn't even theirs, so to justify it they have to go through all this reprehensible evil shit to cover for it. Everything in Russia is to cover up for previous bad shit they've done. Its like an escalator straight down to damnation.
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2024-13-06
These kids could walk back to ukraine if they wanted!/j
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2024-13-06
You're an imperialist. This was a losing battle from the getgo. Cheers pal
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2024-13-06
I would like to see a group of students protesting against the ukrainian genocide. Regretfully, Ukrainians are white.
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The Kurds were only betrayed once and that was by Trump, a Russian asset. Afghanistan and Iraq were never US allies. The rest of the countries you mentioned didn't get invaded by foreign powers.
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In b4 the major nato powers decide to ignore it 
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I wish more people would understand that genocide is not necessarily a Holocaust-like massacre where some crazy leader wants to kill an entire race from the face of the world, one person at a time. Any attempt to erase a culture, totally or partially, and regardless of the method use (murder, cultural assimilation, deportations, reeducation, etc) constitutes genocide. Russia is forcing Ukrainians out of Eastern Ukraine (many of them being deported and scattered all throughout Russia, so they don't survive as communities), replacing it with ethnic Russians, and forcing the ones who remain there to adopt Russian language and culture. That is genocide - that is erasing Ukranian culture from a region that was traditionally co-inhabited by Ukrainians and Russians (most of which were pro-Ukrainian Russians, btw, don't buy the narrative that every Russian outside Russia roots for Putin and the Russian empire because it's not even close to true).
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The main goal for both sides it to get them precious minerals at the cost of human life
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The only thing Slovakia and Hungary can do is stop Slovakia and Hungary from helping - and honestly, NATO is not relying on these two countries for their military might.
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Also, the US funded a bunch of far right militants in riots (Svoboda, Azov, and other groups) to overthrow Victor Yanukovich in 2014. They succeeded, and the western media used the whole Euromaidan thing (being pro EU) as a way to attempt to hide the fact that many of the rioters were Nazis. Then after taking power, the far right (mainly Azov Batallion but also other groups) were incorporated into the Ukrainian National Guard and began shelling ethnic Russians and Russian speaking Ukrainians in the Donbas, which then prompted the people of Donbas to rise up and fight the far right and the Ukrainian gov, leading up to the present. But you didn't care about the Ukranians while it was Ukraine bombing them and burning them alive because they were Russian speaking, you only care now, and only now is it genocide, correct? You're basically a Nazi
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Wow. Look at you. Justifying a genocide with another arguably worse genocide. A genocide is a genocide, no matter how you slice it. It's like saying whats happening in Gaza is not a genocide because the Nazis did it worse. It's really disgusting of you to defend genocide like that. You make me sick. 🤢🤮
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The West responds slow because Ukraine is not part of NATO and most people are not willing to get involved in wars that don't concern them. An attack on a NATO country would be nothing like it - either NATO would respond immediately and with resolute force, or would not respond at all (and that would instantly end NATO's soft power, greatly impact American soft power all throughout the world, severely damage American-European relationships and, depending on why that lack of response happened, fracture Europe altogether). I really, REALLY don't see how NATO failing to comply with article 5 could occur - literally all important members of the alliance would have their reputation, soft power and military power greatly damaged from it.
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Like I responded in another comment, did you have the same stance when Ukraine was trying to wipe out minorities in Donbas? Probably not, because if you're a westerner, you're probably a mix of the holy three - an imperialist, a racist and a Nazi.
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> That wouldn't trigger Article 5. What happened in Donetsk and Luhansk would trigger article 5 immediately lol. And, if it didn't because NATO decided to play dumb, some members would definitely send troops if invited to "pacify the region at the host country's request", which "is not a problem because no foreign country is involved in this".
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You've just proven how unreliable the US actually is. Enough people voted for the Russian puppet that he became our representative to the world, so his betrayals are also the US's betrayals. Our allyships are up for renewal every 4 years. The Kurds were also betrayed by the US during OIF, not just under Trump. And the previous ANA government was an ally of the US. As for Latin America, we put genocidal dictators like Pinochet in charge of Chile. We funded and armed the takeover of Guatemala for Chiquita, who just got fined for using death squads on Guatemalans. We armed the Nicaraguan Contrast who went on mass murdering purges. These are the people we said are under our protection, per the Monroe Doctrine.
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Theory I read China depends on Western wheat to feed its pop They want to take Tiawan so they can control the microchip market and the AI future (also why Biden is bringing production to the US) If they take Tiawan the west sanctions China and stops supplying food, the pop starves, which is usually fatal for leadership The need grain from Ukraine to do it, and made a deal with Russia to support them in the war, Russia gets Ukraines oil and China get their agricultural output. Also why the free world is supporting Ukraine while they looked the other way when he took Georgia
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Only 60%?
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> claiming that Russia is just taking care of the poor children and keeping them safe because Ukraine put them in harm's way This does seem to be a centerpiece to all their propaganda. It's always everyone else with the agency to make changes, but never Russia.
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This is a good point. It's very strange how many center-left people in the US are adamant this is the case for Russia but cannot see that the same logic extends to one of Russia's closest allies: Israel. After the US, Russia is Israel's closest ally.
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Except if you read some international geopolitics report it is evident that what you just said makes no sense. Their objectives has never been Kharkiv or Kiev.
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The term genocide has lost all meaning.
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Oh which reports are you basing your judgment on?
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That doesn't make any sense. Russia is in fact Israel's greatest enemy. Russia and the USSR have armed and funded all of Israel's enemies for decades, and provided them with diplomatic cover at the UN. Russia is the source of enormous quantities of anti-Israel propaganda and antisemitism. Russia is responsible for creating the PLO and training its leaders, Arafat and Abbas, who studied in Moscow and joined the KGB before being sent on their mission to create the PLO terrorist organization, which is responsible for many terrorist attacks that killed civilians.
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Wait, it's not to hunt down Nazis?
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What do the rest 40% believe ????
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