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• the agreement to collaborate on the Moon station "meets Russia's interests because it will contribute to strengthening Russia's strategic partnership with China"
Ah yes, Putin is doing Russia a favor by becoming China's colony. The grand Russian dream brought to life | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
I don't think either of these countries is in position to throw money around for such megaprojects. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Iron Sky | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
How about he signs a deal to build plumbing in the Russian countryside? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
With what money. He's already near bankrupt. Moscow increased taxes already to fund his lost war. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Encourage. The farther away the better. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Typical delusional dictator moves. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
> Chinese money and expertise- Russian lives.
Look, I'm all for dumping on Putin but the Russian space agency objectively has a better record with manned spaceflight than NASA does. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
*Football!* | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Lmao the current axis of evil, ladies and gents. They are laughably pathetic. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Oh no, our enemies wasting a load of money on a useless moon base. Whatever will we do. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
>A Russian spacecraft crashed on the moon last month
I'm a Lunar scientist, as in I work on landers, and this is not that uncommon. Russia has many, many, many issues but their space science is genuinely among the best. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
We can't let them bring communism to the moon | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
>I'm a Lunar scientist
I'm a writer, and you stated: "**Impeccable**". Perfect, without faults, flaws or errors -- that's what impeccable means. If you want to amend your statement, I'm perfectly fine with that but furthermore:
Multiple sources are talking about the shortcomings of Russia's current space program, and the article I linked above (that you did not read) talked about multiple failures **before** the Lunar Lander that failed.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/russias-lunar-mission-failure-raises-questions-about-state-of-space-program
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0265964623000462
https://futurism.com/russia-space-program-falling-apart
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/russias-moon-mission-falters-after-problem-entering-pre-landing-orbit-2023-08-20/ | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Russia can’t even move a few hundred miles across a boarder without losing 200,000 people. So this will go amazingly well. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Every space program has failures, it's incredibly hard to land vehicles on planetary bodies. Russia's space program has had some substantial issues in the past few years, for sure, that doesn't make them not among the best. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
I don't understand why you're so angry about this? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
But there ain't no wale... | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
>Russia's space program has had some **substantial issues in the past few years**
Never said it wasn't difficult, I'm just countering your point about their impeccable record, especially as of late, which is why I made extra sure to say: "I wouldn't trust **current** Russian standards."
I also don't see it getting any better, which I was very lucid with when i said: "How many years out do you think the Moonbase is?"
I guess I just have to accept your backtracking, but the evidence sure does point to me being completely correct about the decline of their space program lately, and why it would be a problem in the future.
I mean, I can highlight it, too: Brain drain, sanctions, moving toward military space programs rather than civil (not ideal for building Moonbases), corruption among other things.
I wouldn't be volunteering for that mission, but I encourage you to follow your dreams even though I doubt they'll build a Moonbase in the next 20 years, let alone in 2030. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
I'm just providing evidence in a topic I like to talk about? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Never going to happen. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Roscosmos is doing OK, but mostly due to standing on the shoulders of giants. The Soviet manned spaceflight programs were extensive and largely successful, contributing to most of that "record". | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
I think they are like the fascist, racist gun toting Americans that can hardly wit for a fascist leader or to fight for what they perceive is a stolen election in 2016. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Soyuz_missions
Over 153 missions, most recently in March 2024, and there were far more failures in the past when you said it was under better control with the Soviets.
So you're just delusional, a coolant leak is not equal to an entire mission failure which is what was happening in the Soviet times. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-15-06 |
So why do you think all of these separate articles from different datasets say otherwise?
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Datawatch/Space-superpower-Russia-falls-down-to-earth
https://www.wired.com/story/russias-space-program-is-in-big-trouble/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0265964623000462
Also, are you just going to ignore how wrong you were with SpaceX Crew Dragon? This is now strike three, next is just a block lol. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-15-06 |
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Because that's exactly what happened with x. Except he made the platform 8 per month | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
You’d prefer an echo chamber over complex, open discussion. That speaks volumes for the type of person you really are
The upvote/downvote system on this site skews visibility toward popular opinions, while sidelining minority perspectives. It’s a one way system that creates an echo chamber effect | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Lol. That's a hilarious misunderstanding of the situation over at X. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
And this is a perception you have gathered from where? The echo chamber? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
How does twitter not have echo chambers? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
How did this guy get shareholders to agree to their own stock dilution at a time where Tesla has more competitors than ever? Lmao | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Compared to Reddit, x operates as a single, unified platform where everyone can interact across a wide array of topics and follow diverse individuals, regardless of specific community boundaries. The open nature of the platform means that we are exposed to a broader range of opinions and content, as opposed to Reddit, where people often participate in specific subreddits that can reinforce their existing beliefs | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
And it's run by a thin skinned man child, so not really the utopia of free thinking you paint it as | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
It is simply priced in. This deal was expected to go through for a long time. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
A man with all the wealth who doesn’t need any more nor gets a lot more. That is all I see here. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
I'm Just disguted that the CEO of a company in General get over THREEHUNDRED Times payed what the lowest worker in that company gets. Don't get me wrong yes you are the head of the company and all that but come in 10-15 Times getting what the lowest payed worker gets is bot enough? Maybe raise their pay so you can raise your own but No everytine they make shitty decisions the Low payed workers are the ones that have to got First because they cost so much ( sure Buddy sure). | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Oh he should absolutely be taxed like anyone else. But as he's ultra rich he won't be. Because the rich decide what the law is. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
tbf they didnt say the lady got hurt. idk about ncap safety ratings but if its about driver safety than the car did it job. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Nothing is illegal for the rich | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Musk is a moron and handled that whole ordeal like a toddler but the facts are they are rebuilding the team, including hiring back a lot of the people they let go, and are committed to half a billion dollars of Supercharger investment this year.
https://fortune.com/2024/05/13/tesla-supercharger-workers-rehired-elon-musk-layoff-entire-team-max-dezegher/ | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
He does a really good job generating hype.
He has a history building successful companies. (Spacex, PayPal, Zip2)
He has an extremely lofty, aggressive and grand vision, which a lot of CEOs don’t have. (For better or for worse) | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
And I’m sure those that accepted to be rehired will be very motivated to work for the lunatic that may fire them again on a whim. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
nobody taxes rich people | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Number one selling car in 2023 wouldn't exactly be so-so. Also the least expensive cars to maintain over a10 year period as reported by Consumer Reports. They have a massive lead in self driving tech, like not even close where other brands barely lane keep.
Tesla owns the largest and most reliable charging network that Ford and Rivian now rely on for viability. They also own huge mega batteries replacing coal fired power plants left and right.
I'm leaving a bunch out still but your comparison to for is funny as Ford could have given away model 3s and lost less money than they did selling their junk EVs. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
I’m inclined to believe billionaires pay people off or blackmail them so nah I will believe the account that they are garbage any day | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Hardly, making stupid decisions that hurts business is not illegal either. If he's intentionally trying to sabotage Tesla, sure, that would illegal, but I doubt any prosecutor in the entire American would be able to prove it. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
It is just so fucking wrong. People are starving. A lot more can barely make rent and then you have this fuckhead who tanks companies making this much | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Elon won’t let you suck his dick for saying shit like this. Sorry. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Capitalism evolves into fascism to protect itself. You cannot separate them. Read Marx and unionise | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
The Bolsheviks did a pretty good job | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
They don't just manufacture cars, they manufacture software primarily, they are a tech company. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Ford loses money on cars they sell and rely on dealers fixing cars to make money. Its clear from financial statements. Also whether you agree or not, but people price in the potential of Tesla figuring out autonomous robo taxis, and even Tesla energy being big in the future. After all the stock price is just supply and demand | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
he made himself a cultural icon instead of spending $4B on marketing and ads like ford and GM each did, he also created a 2000% return from the start of the 2018 pay package to the peak of Tesla. He's also turned Tesla into a tech company mainly supplying software. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Okay Grok. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Tesla has value because of the data they collect from their cars. They are a tech company in disguise.
All of the car, road, camera, and sensor data is worth a fortune. You pay them to drive what is basically a Google street car around.
I do believe it's still overvalued, but this explains some of the gap, and the rest is hype and probably some sketchy people in the finance world. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
The insane part is, that that is more than Tesla has made in Profit. EVER. If you take all the profitable years, and ignore the unprofitable ones, it's still less than Musk just got payed for that. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
[https://elonmusk.today/](https://elonmusk.today/)
If any other CEO lied so much and made so many empty promises, they would've been removed a long time ago. Add to that his disgusting ketamine infused behaviour on twitter and it's mind blowing Elmo hasn't been kicked out | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
We voted for our CEO to be able to purchase the already agreed stock options package for 7bn usd. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Easy to be a charging infra company when the government pays for it all lol. No risk, all reward. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
It's only illegal if they piss off someone richer than them. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Companies that shake industries tend to be worth a lot. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Companies getting rich off US government contracts is sadly a tale as old as, well, the US government. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
I dislike tesla but now totally despise it. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
>I'm not arguing that Musk isn't a moron,
Does it upset you that a moron is more successful in life than you are? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
What percentage of his income is going to be taxed this year cause I fucking guarantee I pay more as a % | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
It doesn't though, why are you spouting nonsense?
Edit: Ohh the majority of your post are about how great Elmo is. What a surprise. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
He recused himself from the vote. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
As they say, market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
!temindme 10 years | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
it's the charging network. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
It's not a new deal but a ratification of an old contract which everyone signed years ago. The deal was that he worked for free, but if investors 10X their investment he gets paid like 5% of that increase. I mean would you take that deal if your boss offered it? No pay unless your department grew 10 times in the next few years?
Back then even on reddit most people were supportive of the sheer audacity of it. Things would be better if all executives were paid that way instead of getting millions even if they did nothing or actively fucked over the company. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
“Priced in” doesn’t make sense in this context. You cannot explain the loss YTD as being due to expectations that the impact of the package will negatively effect Tesla’s performance while simultaneously voting to approve it willingly. The investors clearly believe approving it was the right move, and they’re delusional to think that. The impact is not “priced in”. Unless Tesla does some accounting magic this won’t be good for their profitability. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
no this is the issue. they are valued as a tech company despite their tech not being that valuable. without full self driving, i think the price goes way down | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
I have to avoid news like this because it annoys me so much, the guy is a manipulative, lying grifter and his fans are an ocean of idiots. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Because Ford is a "legacy-automaker", and tesla is "not a car company", according to Musk narrative. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
People have to oppose this now with absolutely no knowledge of the subject, because they have been programed to believe that he is their latest enemy | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Not only a dick move, but a stupid move. You really want to keep at least a few people with knowhow inside the company. Yes other engineers can take over, but there are so many things where "why was this done" is an internal knowledge and it can be forgotten. And it is really important to keep these small "whys" in the company. Also the people have a general idea on what does what and can get newcomers up to speed much faster than what they would have to do to get up to speed themselves | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
The US and everywhere else also doesn't tax stock until it is cashed out.
Usually what they do is cash out older shares that return a profit and then cash out newer shares to pay the taxes for the gains plus the tax if any on those shares.
It is really interesting | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
- I'm very happy with my achievements.
- I also own a Tesla, which is the best car I ever owned, by a wide margin, so I give Musk & Tesla credit where credit is due. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Jesus there's so many Elon stans here. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
I'm not sure I hate them, but any time I've sat in one (usually an Uber) they feel like poorly made plastic crap. I never understood how someone sat in the driver's seat and thought "this is awesome". | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Millionaire idiots today. Few more years and they will be beggars. Rt? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
The man may be a loose cannon, and he may say or do some dumb stuff now and then, but he is certainly not a moron.
Bro did more for space flight than NASA could do in like 30 years.
People hate him because he doesn't fit neatly in their political box, but no one truly, in their heart of hearts, thinks he is a moron. It's okay to fight against the Reddit hive mind. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Tesla investors sound like the dumbest people alive. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
I absolutely detest Musk and his decision such a not using lidar or the cybertruck, just show what a terrible decision maker he is for the research and production side of the company. However, it's like everybody here has forgotten, that the only reason Tesla became so valuable is because Musk managed to gain a cult following. Until not that long ago, it was impossible to say something negative about Musk on Reddit. Reddit had in fact a great part in making Musk big. Tesla stock is more than 10x overvalued, that's because Musk is the biggest meme in the world. What did Musk do? He found enough suckers to shove tons of money up his ass. Now that Musk has dropped his Musk and revealed himself a rightwing fascist sympathiser, some people like to think it would be better for the stock if he was no longer CEO. But again, you forget that he's responsible that the company is more than 10x overvalued. So yes, his true value is in fact really his ability to attract $ from Elon fanboys.
I'm absolutely against him getting this pay. But Tesla investors are morally bacrupt idiots, so I didn'T expect anything else from them. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Fools | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Tesla is little more than a meme stock if Reddit is anything to go by. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
I would say it's like a pyramide bubble, except the rich folks don't take out the cash - because they're so rich they don't fking need the cash. It's like just a number on a screen. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Exactly. He gets a larger share of the company. At the time the original pay package was agreed on, it had a value of something like $1 billion. The value only exploded because Tesla's market cap grew beyond the wildest projections.
Using the same approach, Larry Page got a compensation of ~$150 billion. As Google co-founder he got a sizable share of the company. By the time he got that share it was worth almost nothing, but then the company grew and grew and grew. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Complete idiots. This isn’t going to go how they think it will. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
'Turkeys voting for Christmas' springs to mind. Nobody is worth a $56 million payout never mind 1000 X that. Obscene . The rate at which wealth is being hoovered to the top seems to be accelerationg. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
I hope the US govt cuts that POS off hard. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
If the world isn’t making sense to you it’s more likely because your framing of it is wrong then it is that the entire world is wrong. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
> pumped out over 1.8 million vehicles last year
Tesla can’t sell the cars it makes anymore. Musk flailing to justify the current valuation with more hype and impossible promises. This will not end well. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
Good let’s watch it go under … that’s like 20Billion over the last 6 years revenue | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
That’s because you’ve never driven one lol. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
They’re a cult and their main product is Elon Musk. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
So this is either a cult or the biggest money laundering operation in a decade. Or both. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
.com fever | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-14-06 |
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