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"Your going to have to show your work on paper.",
"No amount of paper can contain all of the calculations",
"Obama became president on 1/20/2009, not 9/11/2001.",
"Who said he was president when it happened",
"No it only does specific letters. ",
"Who said he did 9/11?",
"u/Tomatopilis",
"So basically, a nobody.",
"Hehe, I guess your out of things to heckle about",
"No, I'm still going strong.",
"keep it comin' baby. show me what you got",
"Okee-dok. So tell me, how is Obama responsible for 9/11?",
"Well, how many times have you seen a calculator make an incorrect statement",
"Now your just pouting and avoiding the question. You should probably look up how Texas Instruments is doing.",
"Ya we’re done here",
"Your not fooling anyone kid. You were done a while ago.",
"/u/Tomatopilis, thank you for your submission. Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule I - No screenshots. This includes pictures of screens and photos where the interest is the contents of a screen.\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/Tomatopilis&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rvxbh/calculators_dont_lie/?context=10\\))"
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"Thanks Obama, for giving us Trump.",
"The 2nd annual /r/pics political circlejerk weekend",
"So I go to sleep for just one hour and now you guys have the *REBEL ALLIANCE* marching on your streets with signs ?",
"Clever girl.....",
">Thanks ~~Obama~~ Putin, for giving us Trump.\n\nFTFY",
"As a Star Wars fan this disgusted me. Have your signs that's cool, but leave Star Wars out of this please.",
"Nobody cares",
"i too enjoyed Obama's first month in office.",
"nice meme",
"Paying attention to what? The flood of anti-Trump circlejerk on this sub? Please, give it a fucking rest. Your cheesy stupid pictures aren't going to sway anyone's opinion, it'll only serve to piss people off and annoy them. ",
"The inversion is brilliant and perfect. As is the inclusion of the Star Wars. I'm in love.",
"Don't you bring Star Wars into this",
"shhhh. let them keep living in there delusion, there literally handing trump a second term on a silver platter.",
"> “[The original Star Wars] was really about the Vietnam War, and that was the period where Nixon was trying to run for a [second] term, which got me to thinking historically about how do democracies get turned into dictatorships?” [Lucas said during a 2005 Chicago Tribune interview](http://www.newsweek.com/does-star-wars-endorse-political-republican-democrat-498365). “Because the democracies aren’t overthrown; they’re given away.”\n\nPolitics has always been a part of Star Wars.",
"What's a meme ?",
"lol, because Star Wars wasn't literally balls deep into this from day one. ",
"> it'll only serve to piss people off and annoy them. \n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/rNLtxqg.gif\n\n",
"What's a computer?",
"You can do that?",
"Now that's a legacy I can believe in.",
"I don't see where",
"Unpopular opinion: I think Drumpf is a poopy butt.\n\n\nEdit: Thanks for the 3x gold!",
"Explain? ",
"Get RES",
"/r/PolitICS",
"Ya'll are the ones that bring the hate. Let it fucking go already. ",
"Yeah, politics a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away... ",
"You don't even need RES anymore. Anytime you report someone, you'll get the option to block that user. Unfortunately, I can't find a way to block people without reporting them (because sometimes they're still following the rules of the sub), but oh well.",
"> Maureen Dowd spent the majority of the Bush presidency nick-naming the neoconservative Vice President Dick Cheney “Darth Vader.” George Lucas had to correct her. According to Dowd, Lucas explained that “Anakin Skywalker is a promising young man who is turned to the dark side by an older politician and becomes Darth Vader.” He added, “George Bush is Darth Vader. Cheney is the Emperor.”\n\nLucas seems pretty firm on the impact of more terrestrial issues, I guess it's possible he could be wrong...",
"So..... You need RES?\n\n*Edit\n\n\nI just hovered over your name and clicked ignore, I didnt have to violate any rules or make the MODS job harder by fake reporting you. I will not be able to see what you post but I like your user name.",
"Ugh, get this propaganda off of my reddit. For fuck's sake, move *on*. I don't wanna listen to this shit for the next 7 years. ",
"*They're",
"thnks",
"https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/2000/1*FUhIHwUW9RxMnFa8IagW0w.jpeg",
"How’s all that “hope” working out for ya?",
"Huh, almost looks like a headscarf. No irony there.",
"Waaaaaaah\nWaaaaaaah\nNot my president\nNot my weather\nNot my taxes\nToday we deny all reality.\n\nI didn't vote for the man but this is one humongous circle jerk. ",
"This shit is getting gold? Reddit mods really are libcucks",
">years\n\nMonths*\n\nftfy",
"Just FYI for anyone sick of the political posts, you can filter this whole subreddit out of /r/all in one click with [RES](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/reddit-enhancement-suite/kbmfpngjjgdllneeigpgjifpgocmfgmb?hl=en-US).\n\nThe \"filtering\" auto mod suggests relies on the user or mods to flair their posts and both have proven to be unreliable.",
"It looks like this post is about US Politics. Various methods of filtering out content relating to US Politics can be found [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/wiki/v2/resources/filter/politics).\n\n*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/pics) if you have any questions or concerns.*",
"Most of the posts I have see to day have been anti trump ",
"Nope/Great",
"That's the Democrat run school system for you... Illiteracy for all ;) ",
"How much got paid for all these shillposts?\n\n",
"Yah Obama really brought those Yemeni children hope, for sure.",
"I don't think it's the mods that give out gold. ",
"You could also filter out the US Politics tag, but blocking someone just feels better.",
"I to, try to grammar sometimes ",
"Thats the only grammar mistake you found? ",
"The Trumpettes have really come out of the woodwork in the comments section. ",
"No but you get the idea",
"What makes you better?",
"And where did that \"hope\" get us lol",
"It's almost like he isn't very popular...",
"R/cringe",
"/r/EmpireDidNothingWrong/",
"https://i.imgur.com/LNe5LLX.jpg",
"E D G Y\n\n\n\n\nD\n\n\n\n\n\nG\n\n\n\n\nY",
"REEEEEEEE POLITICS NO MUH TRIGGERS I HATE POLITICS I WANNA SEE MEMES REEEEEEEEEE - This thread ",
"Shame about the downvotes. Happy cake day btw!",
"Can't really see anyone defending Trump that much in these comments, most of the negative comments are because these posts are shit and belong in the politics subreddit.",
"I dunno, I've seen a lot of \"libtards\", \"cucks\" and downvotes for people even suggesting Trump is bad.",
"Well, I'm just mad that there isn't vectorized version in the comments. ",
"Idiot",
"Are you sure you should be saying that? We all know how much Leddit loves darnold drumpfpfpf. Hopefully you dont get too badly downvoted friendo :(",
"American politics is so intellectually rich & serious. ",
"It's almost as if he didn't actually win the popular vote. ",
"I thought it was clever and I enjoyed the picture.",
"It's almost as if we aren't a direct democracy and are instead a republic",
"One might be inclined to think maybe these women are all marching and posting because he bragged about something really offensive to them... and then just built upon it for the past year.",
"Rebels are terrorists. They killed millions of innocents when they destroyed the Freedom Star",
"I just ctrl+f cuck and libtard. Your post is literally the only one that came up.\n\nStop with the 'woe is me' victim shit.",
"“This shit is getting gold? Reddit mods really are libcucks”\n\nLiterally scrolled two comments down. ",
"So it's treason, then. ",
"Don’t even get me fucking started on this. I hate that fucking ad so god damn much it’s insane. The stupid fucking bitch waltzing around brooklyn or whatever the fuck with her stupid ass fucking ipad acting like she owns the fucking world. Nobody gives a fuck about his broken arm. And what the fuck is that shit in the taco shop where she slaps the fucking iPad down like a fucking viking. Fuck you. Then she sits on a fucking tree making some dumb fucking bug poster for no fucking reason I wish she fell out of that fucking tree. and finally she gets home and her nice fucking neighbor asks her a simple ass question AND SHE HAS THE AUDACITY TO SAY WHATS A COMPUTER WHAT THE FUCK FUCK YOU FUCK",
"Moby dick is just a book about a guy trying to kill a whale",
"It was doing quite fine until Orangey came in with the idiot vote.",
"Thank you! I don’t enjoy Star Wars because I want to think about what’s going on around me. I enjoy it because I can go to a place “a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away” and forget about what’s happening in the world for just a brief moment. Don’t spoil that.",
"Spoken like someone with a child's understanding of Lucas and Star Wars.\n\nThe OT was not about \"how do democracies get turned into dictatorships\". Where can that message by found? There is literally one scene with the Imperial officers where they say the Emperor is officially the Emperor and that's the end of the political talk. There no social commentary to be veiled because there's no commentary at all. If anything, he could say this about the prequels but, surprise-surpise, people hate the Prequels so Lucas isn't going to attach his \"Michael Moore Guerrilla political film doc\" cred to that shitshow. \n\nOne thing you have to understand about Lucas is that he is a self-righteous boob who sold out, became a billionaire and has been desperately trying to regain his street cred ever since. Watch any of Lucas's interviews about Red Tails and this will become incredibly clear. Or just watch Red Tails for that matter. ",
"Hitler parted his hair on the right, not the left.",
"Order 66 is FAKE NEWS! The Jedi left on their own accord because Palpatine was doing such a great job! People were working in manufacturing again and the military was fully funded.",
"It's actually the post below yours at this moment. \n\nThat other guy is delusional if he doesn't see the Trump defense squad in all these r/pic women's march pictures. All about how sick they are of people being mean to the poor ol Donald. All of it with suspiciously poor grammar too I've noticed. Almost like it's primarily from either children or people who speak English as a second language. \n\nTrump will resign after the Muller investigation is fully public.",
"Damn you guys have him on the ropes. Couple more weeks of posting these signs and he'll have no choice but to resign. ",
"You may be a bit delusional yourself. ",
"media brain washed a lot of people.\n\n\nmost of this doesn't even remotely make sense and I doubt the majority of people there could intellectually justify it with any depth.... oh yeah, and reddit is part of the media. dat agenda doe\n",
"On reddit..",
"Hey, guess what. Libtard, cuck, and libcuck are three different combinations of letters. You cited two. Other dude proved you wrong. Then you're all wow dumbass I scrolled down and LITERALLY saw this. ",
"...just like in real life!",
"Not really. This website as a whole is to the left of US politics. In this country it's pretty evenly halved, though I doubt I'll find agreement on this. ",
"If you choose not to apply themes explored in stories to your life you’re missing out in a lot of core messages. There’s a lot to be learned from fiction. ",
"I agree with shows like Star Trek and Firefly, both of which I love and are meant to have commentary on our current global climate. Star Wars, however, was made for, and is meant to be understood by, 12 year olds; that’s why there is a pretty black and white who is good and who is bad. So coming up with conclusions that are beyond a middle schoolers comprehension means you are reading too deep into what’s happening and pulling out something that isn’t there. I just like the simplicity and straightforward approach to story telling that is refreshing after having watched a marathon of game of thrones, Black mirror, Westworld, and pretty much anything else that is good today",
"Saying Star Wars was made for twelve year olds is just ignorant especially when you give Star Trek praise as one of the two of these actually was made for kids. Implying that the values of good and evil are simply described in Star Wars is ignorant as well. Claiming that Star Wars does not touch on important real world themes is ignorant. You are ignorant. ",
"Quote from an article reporting on Star Wars Celebration 2017:\n\nLucas told actor Warwick Davis, who was moderating the event’s opening panel, that Star Wars was always intended to be enjoyed by “12-year-olds.” He went on to admonish critics for “being mean” and talk about what Star Wars stands for in his mind.\n\n“Friendships, honestly, trust, doing the right thing, living on the right side and avoiding the dark side,” Lucas said. “Those are the things it was meant to do.”\n\nLucas said that while certain fans and critics can be overly critical of the movies — with the prequel trilogy garnering overwhelmingly negative attention in particular — seeing children enjoy the movies that he’s created is a reminder of why he started to begin with.",
"Tell me when Trump musters 3 million women to march for him.",
"Please leave entertainment out of your politics.",
"“and to the Republic for which it stands”",
"Yes, in the form of missiles. Great shot Obama, one in a million",
"Not even a little. ",
"Democrats much more frequently protest, in greater numbers, to that of Republicans.\n\nAlso, Trump got[ 53% of white women's votes](http://time.com/5107499/record-number-of-women-are-running-for-office/?xid=emailshare), compared to 43% for Hillary.",
"I hate when the trump crowd says “give it a rest” as if you wouldn’t have been tapping on if Hillary won. \n\nFurthermore, the backlash against him is incredibly warranted. He cultivates hatred to drive the wedge between the people deeper, he is filling the swamp by giving even great power to the super rich, he is damaging our environment, demonizing journalism, and threatening the safety of our country. We haven’t seen a greater reason to protest since Vietnam. If you’re annoyed with the backlash, maybe take a step back and see where the outrage stems from. It’s far beyond “I don’t like that he is president. I wish we won the election” and far more like “holy fucking shit, someone fucking stop this dangerous imbecile before he ruins fucking everything!!!” ",
">Democrats much more frequently protest, in greater numbers, to that of Republicans.\n\nRepublicans like to bend over and take it?\n\n>Also, Trump got 53% of white women's votes, compared to 43% for Hillary.\n\nOh if only we lived in a white country buddy... I bet that would be your dream.",
"If someone asked me to describe a shitshow I'd just tell them about US politics.",
">Republicans like to bend over and take it?\n\nA weak way of interpreting it, considering a majority of state and local legislative power is held by the GOP. \n\n>Oh if only we lived in a white country buddy... I bet that would be your dream.\n\nYou're painting the picture of me you want to see, in fact, by being racist. My point was clear - Hillary, a white woman, lost the white women's vote.",
">I hate when the trump crowd says “give it a rest” as if you wouldn’t have been tapping on if Hillary won. \n\n>you\n\nWho exactly do you presume me to be? Someone states they're sick of political spam of shitty Twitter memes on a nonpolitical subreddit and now they're a Trump supporter?\n\n>Furthermore, the backlash against him is incredibly warranted. \n\nSure. Calling him Hitler is *not*. Posting your 1 year old dressed up as a political prop is *not*. Spamming /r/pics with stupid pictures is *not*. There's a lot more constructive criticism you could be providing. There's real issues and real topics that can be discussed, along with the future of the Democratic party since their candidate will very likely be the next president. Instead, let's put shitty pictures of shittier signs up and bash Trump instead of actually having a thoughtful discussion. \n\n>He cultivates hatred to drive the wedge between the people deeper, \n\nThis is a people problem, not a Trump problem. \n\n>he is filling the swamp by giving even great power to the super rich, \n\nWhy aren't there signs about this then?\n\n>he is damaging our environment,\n\nAgain, you're right. Why didn't you morons have signs about this instead of just calling him Hitler and calling him a cunt?\n\n>demonizing journalism,\n\nNo pass on this one. Current journalism is a fucking joke and to suggest otherwise is willful ignorance. I'm actually with him on this one. \n\n>and threatening the safety of our country. \n\nDebatable, but even so, why aren't there signs about this? Why isn't this the discussion? \n\n>We haven’t seen a greater reason to protest since Vietnam. \n\nAlso debatable. Iraq was a pretty big blunder. Even still, you aren't actually protesting anything.. you're just calling him a Hitler cunt..\n\n>If you’re annoyed with the backlash, maybe take a step back and see where the outrage stems from.\n\nSo far I've only seen losers going to rallies and insulting him. I'm not annoyed with the backlash. I wouldn't even call this backlash.. it's just childish insulting. I just want some productive and constructive backlash and maybe an intelligent conversation here and there.. but perhaps I'm asking for too much. \n\n>It’s far beyond “I don’t like that he is president. I wish we won the election” and far more like “holy fucking shit, someone fucking stop this dangerous imbecile before he ruins fucking everything!!!” \n\nYou aren't going to achieve that by sitting around holding signs insulting him. You claim to have the right intentions, but I'm really not seeing any of it. \n",
"I wonder if these people are going to attempt to compare their protests to the protests in Iran. Maybe these people are delusional enough.",
"Lucas was fine with anyone acting like his movie was more than just a children's sci-fi movie that was meant to sell toys. Star Wars is the simple hero's story, not some great space epic that had deep societal commentary. \n\nAlso, doesn't everyone hate the prequels?",
"What rule bans political posts in this sub ",
"Never said it was a rule... ",
"So then they do belong here then ",
"[Say it!](http://i.imgur.com/hNJA5iG.jpg)",
"If you want them to. Personally i find these posts shit and think they should belong in political subreddits with the rest of the shitposts.",
"Probably should stop looking at them and commenting on them. Ignoring and down voting them. Seems better then looking at them and getting mad ",
"Saying a post is shit doesn't mean mad, but okay, what ever floats your boat. And the comments section is for commenting on posts, and that is what ii'll use it for. \n\nYou do seem awfully interesting in my opinion of this picture though. Im flattered.",
"Where was any of this in the original Trilogy? I just remember space-ships and laser-swords and the Force.\n\nNone of this politic bullshit crept in until the prequels.",
"It’s most definitely a Trump problem. He is the one instigating these issues to divide us more. That’s what his entire platform is built on. He is doing everything he can to fuel hatred and fear. \n\nI don’t see how you can deny his focus on helping big money grow their power. Politically, it’s easier to buy your way into power now more than ever and his economic focus is not on helping the average American but it’s to help those already thriving. \n\nI’m not comparing him to hitler, and I don’t think this post is either. It’s just making fun of his stupid haircut. However, when people compare him to butler it isn’t completely without reason. He may not be killing millions of Jews but he is using lots of the same political tactics to gain power and impose his fascist agenda. I don’t like pulling that hitler card cause it’s too extreme but still. \n\nThere isn’t much the average American can do to protest him. What do you want us to do? Take up arms and start shooting each other? Using words is better right now. Showing outrage and lack of support is important. \n\nIraq, sure. My point is more that his presidency is 100% unacceptable and to sit around for 4 years getting fucked silently is not the best plan of action. \n\nHe is demonizing journalism because it makes it harder for the media to hold him accountable for his atrocities. There is so much trump gets away with and lies about and when he gets called out it he brushes it off as fake. It still baffles me how obviously and poorly he lies and his supporters defend him.\n\nThere are plenty of signs and complaints about actual specific complaints such as the environment. If you haven’t seen any you aren’t looking. You can’t just pretend all anyone is doing is calling him hitler. \n\nIt’s all just super surreal. It’s a nightmare and damn near a reign of terror. And there’s not much we can do about it but resist and discuss. Like we are doing now. But damn, dude, I don’t understand how you can support him unless you are seriously misinformed or hateful. \n\n",
"*their're",
"some commenters don't agree with me 100% fucking DROMPHF REEEEE",
"I'm willing to bet 90% of the people with signs like this have no clue what's actually going on.",
"What's Aleppo?",
"Not only do you fuckers need to stop comparing a unprepared president to a genocidal galactic imperialist dictatorship, you sympathize with the rebels \n\nALSO DONT TRY AND JUMP ON RIGHT WINGERS FOR TALKING ABOUT OBAMA AND HILLARY WHEN ITS LITTERALLY ALL YOU COMPARE TRUMP TO",
"Definitely looks like Drumpfs hair though.\n\nDONALD DRUMPF IS FINISHED!!!!!",
"We are dealing with a serious crisis in American politics.",
"Here's one that agrees",
"It's the media's fault. The goal is to divide the people as much as possible",
"I thought it was just a reference to Trump's hair. Where is the star wars connection? ",
"Well done",
"I just assumed they were bringing the SJW fanfic version being made by Disney into it.",
"Lol k. I assume you must have just started following US politics about two years ago, because that is just ignorant of our long history of how elections work. The signs don't matter. The enthusiasm matters a whole lot.",
"He has a record low approval rating for a 1st year president and has been below 40% virtually his entire term.",
"You must see \"cuck\" and \"libtard\" everywhere you look. You should see a therapist about that.",
"Read the room, man. ",
"what?",
"I stumbled upon this comment early this morning and thought it was funny, then just saw you got gilded for another one. Figured I come back to this one and congratulate you. Also, if I had the chance I would rip that iPad outta her hand and smash the shit out of it. Then tell her I just smashed a computer. ",
"*The media*... ok. ",
"That's from the same kind of polls that said Hillary had over a 90% of winning the election",
"That's funny",
"😆",
"How exactly is that a viable business strategy?",
"CNN monopolizes the left mainstream media, FOX monopolizes the right mainstream media, and they both profit while the little guys get the middle point of view that only sane people tap in to.",
"Since 2015, the New York Times has boasted 1 million digital subscribers. In November 2017, Fox was the most watched news news network, averaging 1,430,000 viewers throughout the day. ",
"How is reddit part of the media?",
"I meant on television, I’m sure it’s NYT and most publications vs. info wars and r/The_Donald as far as digital media goes.",
"Remember kids, ironic shitposting is still shitposting "
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"8 minutes... no explanation. I think OP died",
"I've been seeing a number of posts about checking gas pumps to make sure a card skimmer hasn't been placed over the card reader and I thought I would share some knowledge.\n\nMost gas pump skimmers are placed internally, simply daisy chaining the skimmer on the ribbon cable that attaches the card reader to the pump. A good friend of mine is head of maintenance for a local chain of stores and they occasionally pull them out of their pumps, one of which is the pic posted here. If you don’t know what you’re looking for, you’d never spot one or know it’s there, not to mention it’s locked inside the pump. Yes, they check the pumps frequently and it is rare they find skimmers BUT they do find them on occasion and usually on more than one pump at the store that has been hit.\n\nTo answer the inevitable questions; all skimmers are reported to the police who come, document, dust for prints, etc... Gas pumps have specialized keys which are difficult to duplicate but are also of limited variations. All it takes is one store manager accepting a bribe, handing over the key and looking the other way for a while. That key can be used in any number of pumps at many different stores. Most stores use just one of the key variations for all of their pumps. Data is accessed via Bluetooth from the skimmers which are locked inside the pump. To counteract this, gas stations started using security tape on the pumps as a visual cue that the pump had been opened. Naturally, thieves now carry this too so you cannot necessarily trust a pump which has intact security tape.\n\nTHE ONLY SAFE WAY TO PURCHASE GAS is to pay inside the store.",
"Nope. Just took a bit of typing and checking grammar... which is never great to begin with.\n",
"So you took this home and took a picture on your couch? ",
"And here is why I pay with my credit card and check my account frequently. No fraud liability.\n\nInteresting technique though - doing it in a way that isn’t noticeable or detectable by a normal consumer. \n\nThanks for sharing.",
"Usually the police confiscate the skimmers but this one was kept for training purposes, to show managers what they are looking for inside the pumps when they inspect. ",
"Good design - the electronics are in the black shrink wrap end, and the cable looks like an easy switch and replace inside the machine between the magnetic stripe reader and the host machine, making a copy of the data as it passes innocuously to the main board."
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"Munich.",
"Huh, weird. I did not see that when I was there. ",
"Those gloves tho... gorgeous. ",
"I'm really hoping his trip there is the reason he walks around with that picture",
"It's in odeonsplatz. As you walk to it from the front of the residenz, you'd have looked left I believe. ",
"r/oldschoolcool",
"Careful man, that might open some weird nazi magic portal.",
"Came here to say the same thing. \n\nI’d like to believe he’s had it since a boy, carrying it in his wallet, and one day hoping for Reddit to exist.",
"Did your friend walk around yelling; \"help, I'm looking for this man!\"\n\nI hope not, cause that's Germany and they wouldn't understand it",
"Odeansplatz. \"Theater place.\" Hmmm. That must be the MGM lion, then. /s",
"[Mechanix Gloves (coyote color)](https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0019I7XAM)",
"I did *NOT SEE* it",
"Judging by those gloves, I know why your friend is there. 👍",
"As awful as it is to say I'd love to go back just to listen to one of his speeches in person, according to everyone who listened he was an amazing speaker and and weaved his words like they'd been planned for years and that sounds super interesting",
"Yeah no doubt about that, his ability to persuade and \"inspire\" people was amazing ",
"Go on...",
"It's what I would do if I could travel back, it hurts no one to listen to a speech so there's no chance of a paradox at least",
"First of all, includes a photo of the only good kind of Nazi. Not to put too fine a point on it: dead Nazis.\n\nSecondly, why is no one talking about the guy peeking out of the lion's mane?",
"Ya nichevo ni uvidel\n\nSorry, that's in late '45",
"And I hope no one else saw him holding this picture out. It’s a pretty offensive thing from what I hear. ",
"Heil get in trouble for that",
"Cool???",
"Plywood stand up next to the portal: \n\n“You must be this high, have blue eyes, blonde hair, a nose this shape, to enjoy this ride.”",
"Why is drumpf in Germany?\n",
"We're pleased with how the final solution of this picture turned out.",
"Right to the photographer's left, there's an alley that separates Feldherrnhalle and the Munich Residenz. Where the alley opens up into the plaza was the site of the violent clash between the state police and the Nazi party during the Beer Hall Putsch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch). ",
"Are you implying we don't take jokes very well? Because if you are, we have built special places for your kind of people.",
"Hey, German here:\n\nEh....",
"Where you can concentrate on making better jokes. ",
"Operator status.",
"https://imgur.com/a/NK5m7 \n\nI like this one better. Shows you how big the Feldherrenhalle really is. \n\nThe place is still pretty much the same and has a little street behinded it. It was used by people who didn’t want to salute the Nazi regime. This way they didn’t have to pass Feldherrenhalle. \n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drückebergergasse\n\nSource: my girlfriend is a tourist guide in Munich ",
"Not really. Why would it be offensive?\n\nSource: I’m german. Nazis are not a taboo topic. \n\n* We talk about it. \n* We joke about it. \n* We have funny movies/Books about it „[Er ist wieder da](https://youtu.be/IxAuOWqBx0c). \n* Serious movies „[Der Untergang](https://youtu.be/2dzKgq4zl4E). \n* Comedians joke about it. \n* Politicians talk about it. \n* Scholars debate it \n\nI’m pretty sure everybody outside Germany has a way more difficult relationship with that part of history then/than (?) the Germans. \n",
"Feldherrnhalle. ",
"Don't worry, the Nazis are playing right into op's hand.",
"Such a good comment and it got downvoted. I fear this world",
"That's okay, though. Hellboy came out of one of those.",
"well, there are audio-tracks of his speeches. This does not give the complete idea how it is to listen to it life, but it can give you an idea how he used his language. That said, from the way he is speaking, from the viewpoint of a modern german, it just sounds unappealing.",
"Your friend has awesome gloves. Can anyone find them online?",
"Wow, the first photo looks really mystical, the whole setup is well laid-out. These guys knew how to do propaganda and make the Führer look like an Über-Mensch (in *their* usage of the word, not Nietzsche's!).",
"Eh, I think if you read many books from that time or before, you can get a better feeling for his skill. At least that was the case for me.",
"My god, the Nazis were gaudy drama-queens. I hope the world has learned its lesson: don't pick a hipster artist to lead your genocidal, totalitarian regimes.",
" It's not only offensive it's illegal. ",
"Cake.",
"There are a lot of things that the Germans did better around that time. They had technology way ahead of anyone else... infrared night vision scopes, jet aircraft, and IRBMs. \n\nI have a lot of respect for the scientists and researchers of that time, many of which care to the US and advanced our own space program. Not so much respect for the ruling regime.",
"Thats bullshit. As long as you don't run around shouting \"Sieg heil\" and doing the Hitlergruß it's just a sign of bad taste.",
"yeah - the way he spoke fit into the \"Zeitgeist\", so it was good for the people of the time. I just don't now if someone from modern times, with modern mindset, would feel that captured of his speeches without priorly taken the time to immerse in the mindset of that time (if you really want that).",
"yeah but hes not supporting it, by that defintion remove all pics of hitler from all books and etc",
"Yes, thanks for not using the obvious \"did nazi that\". We get it ;)!",
"Lie.",
"Kind of true, but also due to spying and funding science very generously with money either stolen from jews etc. or lent.\n\nAlso they laid some foundations of this going down, not only politically. They mostly did research into things that short-time were advantages, Hitler did not want to fund the computer research by Zuse for example. If he'd done that, not been on drugs the 2nd part of the war and didn't do as crazy mistakes due to that... maybe Germany, or the 3rd Reich, would be huge now and even Silicone Valley would be imaginable to be here (in Germany).\n\nBut also, a fucked up society I wouldn't want to live in.",
"I would say we are still top 3 regarding technology.",
"Probably not much, although I guess *some* right-wingers would totally be into it. There've been even accusations of the right-wing leaders to copy some style elements and wordings of him. Adapting his style into modern times is possible.\n\nHowever, purely speaks don't do that much anymore, there's other ways that became more efficient in propaganda and publicity.",
"I've watched enough agents of shield to know Nazis are very creative with their magic bullshittery",
"That's called a rephotography. Check out this site: www.re.photos - made in Germany ;-)",
"I wouldn't be bragging about your friend taking pictures of Hitler. He was an evil man.",
"Here's a shot from the Hofbräuhaus in Munich, but way before the whole Nazi thing. \n\nhttps://www.re.photos/compilation/1612/",
"Hitler could have conquered the world if he didn't conduct the war like I play 'risk!' going mental and attacking everyone and turning on your allies halfway through and kicking that one guy under the table and then denying it.",
"There's absolutely nothing illegal about a picture from Nazi Germany. Source: am German.",
"If you like those gloves, I'd hate to see your shoes.",
"Man they looked *way* cooler when I didn't see that half the glove was plastered in BRAND LOGO BRAND LOGO BRAND LOGO.",
"They stole a photo of Hitler? ",
"I guess if you are running around shouting Sieg Heil! they will call an ambulance sooner than the cops.. ",
"Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened <3",
"Haha. My shoes are black Puma shoes that don't look special. Pretty old, though.\n\nThese gloves look like they're warm, but won't make you sweat a lot on your hands.\n\nEdit: I am complete garbage in styling myself or my surroundings.",
"> I hope not, cause that's Germany and they wouldn't understand it\n\n[You sure about that?](https://youtu.be/AtW1Lq5c04E)",
"Nice-to-know-fact if you are interested in history: \nMy mother told me the story, that if you were passing the Feldherrnhalle, you had to do the nazi-salut in rememberance of the nazis who died in the first try to gain power in Nov.1923. \nAll who didn´t want to do that, took the Viscardigasse behind the Feldherrnhalle. In munich it was called the \"Drückebergergasse\". Literally translated it means \"shirker-alley\".",
"Thank god that didn’t work out. Great pic 😚",
"Imaging explaining why your carrying that to German customs.",
"Fun stuff. I was there a few years ago and got this shot. Had no clue it was a Hitler hotspot. https://i.imgur.com/FqRyRnm.jpg ",
"Agree. Such a shame ",
"Finding beauty is history",
"Well, would you also consider the person who kills a Nazi a good person? If so, things will get interesting looking at Hitler...",
"He should give it back to whomever he took it from ",
"It's about time they painted that building.",
"I'm aware of many good people who killed Nazis. Aren't you?\n\nThat said, I'm not advocating the killing of Nazis. I do advocate the conversion of Bad (living) Nazis to non-Nazis. \n\nThe time to advocate the killing of a particular Nazi, or Nazi's in general, may come. \n\nCan you explain, R3d1st, what you mean about things getting interesting looking at Hitler?\n\nThanks.",
"This comment is just stupid and ignorant. As a German I am offended.",
"> Feldherrnhalle\n\nMostly unrelated story ahead: \n\nI was supposed to have a date in munich one day while I was working as an aupair for a dog (in a small village about 40 minutes outside of munich) but my phone battery ended up dying while I was drinking with some streetpunks in Marienhof. I ended up walking to the hofgarten (about 300 ft from this photo) and drinking with some other strangers and one of them ended up knowing the chick and giving her a call. \n\nSo I showed up like 2 hours late to a date, utterly wasted. It went pretty well but there was no spark. \n\n\nThat 1 KM stretch is probably my favorite place in the world. ",
"The comment is just a joke and your overeaction is overreactive. As a redditor I am appauld.",
"They’re coyote brown mechanix gloves..Marines use them all the time. First thing I noticed haha",
"Hitler commited suicide.",
"Well, as a German I don't like this kind of jokes. We have to live with that heritage. But that's just my opinion/overreaction.",
"Shouldn't have killed 6 million Jews then.",
"Thank you!!!!",
"http://tacticalgear.com/mechanix-wear-the-original-coyote?hp=y&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrZv-yfzo2AIVl7jACh0SwwQyEAQYCiABEgJrhvD_BwE#/24544/654,2394/1&dl=b\n\nHere’s a link to get em too",
"Not really. I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t even look twice at it. ",
"Its not an outright illegal symbol. \n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a\n\nThe context is important. \n\nA swastika on your jacket would be a problem. \n\nA photo book about the third Reich with a bunch of symbols is perfectly legal. \n\nIt’s not like we want this part of history to be forgotten. We just don’t want the wrong people using it. That’s all there is. ",
"/r/shitwehraboossay/",
"Hindsight is 25/25",
"Oh wow I thought that this was Washington DC today with it's current \"protest\". Good eye though ",
"lucky no cops saw, they apparently don't take kindly to tourists doing anything nazi related. several tourists have been arrested for jokingly sig heiling, this of course is much more tasteful and the end product is a meaningful piece of art.. but imagine trying to explain that in broken phrasebook german to an angry police officer.",
"You really don't know shit about Germany, do you? Just some random American who read 'swastikas are banned in Germany' giving everyone travel advice without any real knowledge.\n\nPossession of historic photos with swastikas on them are not banned in any shape or form and never have been, and it's just fucking dumb to even think they would be. ",
"don't forget the small alleyway right behind the Feldherrnhalle where people bypassed the Feldherrenhalle that didn't want to salute while passing it, as was mandatory later on. the alleyway is now called \"Drückebergergasse\" (eng.: Shirker alley) and special stones in the pavement remind people of the police officers who died in the the clash.",
"if we're honest with ourselves, then almost every nation has some kind of massmurder in its past. the only difference to the germans is that they did it in relative recent times so people love to point to them to distract from their own atrocious history. ",
"well nowadays it is more like a classical music hotspot. during summer time you can find pianists or violinists sitting in the hall, playing some pieces until the night starts. once a year it is the location for the \"Classic am Odeonsplatz\" where the munich philarmonic orchestra or the Orchestra of the Bayerischen Rundfunk play pieces from selected componists. \nThats what i really like about the Feldherrenhalle. They could have torn it down after ww2 and ignored its history, but instead they reclaimed it and turned it into a venue to celebrate life.",
"Beer Hall Putsch always annoys me a little it's the Hitler-Luderdorff-Putsch.",
"The police would have done nothing of that sort, in that case. Its all in the context (something that many people don't seem to understand if they only can think in black and white) . When you go around sieg heiling in germany like a fucking moron you deserve a slap on the wrist. if you take a photograph of a historical monument and superpose a historic photograph that is still not the same as sieg heiling. Even if a cop would have seen that, they would have at most told him to make it less obvious (if he was making a show of it), but if the tourists behaves like an ass or is aggressiv, then yeah, he gets more than just a slap on the wrist as we can always see during Oktoberfest, where tourist think its funny to sieg heil inside the beertent or agressively call the cops nazis and think they can intimidate them. This year there were about 8 cases that i remember where tourists acted like that. 4 americans, 3 russians and a french guy.",
"That's a really lucky picture! Every time I pull out my picture of Hitler it almost never lines up with local architecture. ",
"They look goofy as fuck with the brand plastered over them, though.",
"Than. Then is usually related to time. Than is usually a comparison. ",
"if you want to listen to them in the right setting visit Nürnberg and the [Reichsparteitagsgelände](http://museen.nuernberg.de/dokuzentrum/themen/das-gelaende/das-reichsparteitagsgelaende/). It is a museum nowadays where you can learn more, they also have video and audio footage of his speeches. I remember visiting it with school. It is strangely eerie to walk though this giant palace like building. [bare walls](http://museen.nuernberg.de/dokuzentrum/das-dokuzentrum/architektur/) and ceillings only interjected with modern steel and glass. Inside the different alcoves you can find information and videoscreens that'll tell you more.",
"thank you. Too many people forget that context is key.",
"Nah, sorry. you don't get to use that excuse. \nYou didn't use any normal indications that are needed online that this is supposed to be a joke, and with so many people being around who actually mean that stuff seriously...nope. \n",
"Please don’t believe everything you hear, if something sounds wild look into it",
"\"Sure we killed 6 million Jews but don't you dare bring it up you piece of shit!! It hurts my feelings! I'M THE VICTIM HERE!!!\"\n",
"That's mostly bullshit. Jet propulsion was first invented in the UK, and around the same time German scientists discovered the same technology. Jet planes were still a pipe dream though. Technology wise the Germans had different strengths than the allies. The Germans didn't have radar, they were vastly behind on computing technology, no nuclear programme whatsoever, their intelligence services were vastly behind in terms of intelligence strategy. They invested heavily in tank technology and rocket propulsion, that is true, which is why the US took so many Germans for their space programme, but that's a one sided wehraboo account you've given there. ",
"Left hand",
"To be fair, they were calling on the signs and symbols that pre-dated them. Understanding fascism requires both an understanding of the classical history/mythos of the era functioned, how high culture still idolised Rome and Greece, the culture of Germany, the legacy of the Holy Roman Empire, and the practices of the various royal courts and duchies, and the crisis of modernity that the world went through in the early 20th century. \n\nWhile fascism was in some respects modernising, usurping the aristocracy, \"streamlining\" laws that were historically of great significance, and focusing energy on technology and industry, it was also in many respects a call for a return to the monistic culture of the past. A reaction to pluralism and diversity of opinion and interest. \n\nFascism can in many regards be compared to a monarchy. The leader is still ultimately meant to be a physical embodiment of the national being and expression of the national will. It cuts out all the complications of what we consider modern culture and tries to equate the interest of the leader with the interests of the nation. The only difference is that the rules of ascendance are replaced with a kind of political will to power that isn't demographic in the political sense of the term.\n\nThis kind of self-aggrandisement was really no different from the kind the royal families of Europe or the founding fathers of the US engaged in. Hitler was obsessed with the \"great men\" of history had held power over nations and empires. \n\nThis looks gaudy because of how out of place it looks to us in a 20th century context. Modern technology paired with this kind of idolatry seems comical to us. Had history not gone the way it did though, it could well be the norm. ",
"From who? Give it back!",
"When I was in Germany I took a tour where the guide told us not to draw much attention to the fact that we were looking at certain things. I remember specifically at one building they had nice Mosaic tiling on the ceiling above the walkway around the structure. The swastika was in the design and he asked us to not be too obvious or point at or anything like that.\n\nAlso in a parking lot between some apartments we were standing over the location of Hitler's bunker... So we were told. Again we were asked not to draw much attention to what we were doing.\n\nI've heard similar stories from other travelers. This was over a decade ago so maybe things are changing some? ",
"And it was an American Robert H. Goddard who invented the liquid fuel rocket. Von Braun openly admitted to studying his work and was surprised that the US wasn't further ahead with rockets because of having Goddard. The reason is because rockets weren't necessary for the US in WWII as the country was churning out heavy bombers that were pummeling Germany into rubble day and night in a far more efficient manner than 1940's era rockets could ever do. ",
"\"Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.\"\n\nWell it seems you like these kind of jokes talking about the Holocaust. Looking at the comment karma for this comment and my response shows that I must be wrong. Sorry for not smiling about the fact that the Holocaust happened.",
"Er ist wieder da is like my favorite movie!",
"Please tell that to the developers of War Thunder, I'm fucking sick of wanting to fly my ME-262 and being in the same fucking tier as MiGs and Sabres",
"ICBMs and nuclear bombs isn't exactly a short term advantage\n\nIf the national socialist policies of the Third Reich wasn't bankrupting the nation and necessitating shaking down the European continent for wealth WWII could have begun a decade later and been a lot more terrifying",
"Is the lion still there?",
"Bet you’re fun at parties ",
"!remindme 3 days",
"Well, we are not particularly proud of our history and it's never nice to be constantly reminded of one's flaws and mistakes.\n\nEdit: Spelling",
"So you just walk around with pictures of Hitler in your pocket? Are you worried about getting stopped and searched by the police and what they would think?\n\nOr,\n\nPicture falls from your pocket\nWoman picks up picture\n\"excuse me sir, you dropped thi...\"\nWoman stares at picture of hitler\n\"oh, thank you\" you say as you pull the image from her gaze. \n\nMaybe I worry too much. \n",
"Walking around with a picture of Hitler in your pocket lol\n",
"Make sure the German police don't see that picrure, they will arrest you.",
"That's understandable. Germans do have plenty to be proud of and ashamed of just as most countries do. ",
"Wehraboo game with community full of \"LE NAZIS WERE TECHNOLOGICALLY SUPERIOR\"? \n\nGL.",
"You obviously have no experience with War Thunder",
"They say he had help from a few people involved with the occult. ",
"Hoping to relive some of his father's experiences.",
"Still a decent price",
"Well, the younger generations have no problem with joking about it. In my experience it's a pretty sensitive topic for the generations that lived during that time, or the aftermath of it. ",
"Grammar Nazi?",
"People are such idiots. Centuries upon centuries of history in Germany and these fuckwits are singularly obsessed with Hitler. ",
"Is your friend Tom Brady?",
"That was nearly 70 years ago. They would be around 80 and above today. \n\nEdit: What I tried to say with that is that the people directly affect by this are less and less. And there will always be a very different approach between those that came after and those who lived it. \n\nLike Dave Chappelle sad:\n\n\"[...] And everything’s funny ’till it happens to you.”\" ",
"Thats true. to me that obsession just speaks of an inability or an unwillingness to face their own problems. If you concentrate on what someone else did wrong, then you do not have to think about the atrocities you committed yourself.",
"That's weird. Especially in Berlin the locals are used to tours with specifically historic topics. ",
"right ",
"Bullshit.",
"I liked dead snow as far as Nazi zombies movies go.",
"Sure, but it also promised short-term success, this was what I meant to say, was a bit unclear there.\n\nHowever one might argue that the resentment due to Versailles etc. would've been less strong, perhaps, but that's difficult to say and I ain't got enough knowledge there to judge.",
"many good people on both sides",
"Is that Trump or hitler?...I get them mixed up",
"Why does your friend carry a picture of Adolf Hitler around with him/her??",
"That is what I mean, the people who lived through it as well as the generation directly after. I don't mean they don't talk about it or are afraid to, but it is just a much more serious matter to them in general. For example, my former Football Trainer (maybe beginning of 60) was incredibly serious about the topic, he always got angry when people made jokes about it. I agree with you that the majority of people are fine joking about it, I'm just saying there are still those that see it seriously",
"In b4 the cops take him in for questioning, who carries a picture of Hitler around?",
"Why is he carrying a picture of Hitler in his pocket? ",
"zat is ze intent!",
"fools don't realize he's about to activate his trap card.",
"That first photo looks so incredibly evil and sinister. Even without context, it just screams \"world-ending demonic cult.\" Was this shot selected as allied propaganda, or was this actually published in *support* of the nazis? If the latter... that's bizarre!",
"thats a terrible terrible thing to say. sad :(",
"Recognized the big lion",
"I thought the [photo](https://imgur.com/a/s1giQ) might look more interesting if it was completely black and white.",
"That's a really thoughtful reply for such a dumb joke. Cheers.",
"*reicht",
"I'm squishing your head.",
"I'm in the military and use these gloves. Unfortunately, the military doesn't allow logos to be visible on our gear. However, the MECHANIX lettering peels off fairly easily. For a pair of gloves, it takes me about 30 minutes to get all the lettering off.",
"it's true. my grandpa was in the ss, we still have his uniform. he didn't kill anybody, he was a.. typewriter? he wrote documents. and the reason he joined is because we are from estonia and many saw germans as liberators against the CCCP.",
"We finished a stag do beer tour in front of this - some American dude told us the history of the spot while telling us to “down our drinks”",
"Well, weren't they liberators? I've heard many times that everything got worse for the people there when the Russians took those countries back again.",
"Dont cry because it’s over, smile because it happened ",
"I was unaware that trump was headed to Germany today. ",
"nah, it was a trick. hitler planned to kill off almost half of our population, because of racial purity or sth. he planned to kill off a larger percentage in southern baltic states, so i suppose we should be flattered.\n\nbut yeah, there was heavy russification and deportation going on after ww2. at least during stalin's rule. following leaders were more gentle. and i'm not blaming russians, i blame stalin and kgb.",
"Colorize the black n white! That would be cool",
"Did he took a picture of himself on the same spot?\n",
"I wonder if Germans are tired of tourists doing stuff like this",
"I don't really think that Germans today should be ashamed of that. It's a horrible past, but most germans from that time are gone. You could not have done anything to prevent it. I however think neo-nazis should be ashamed. Especially the German ones.",
"This has to be a unit thing, no one ever gave a shit that my gloves said MECHANIX and they didn’t have these fancy ones where the logo is the same color as the glove. Maybe if I was trying to wear them as winter gloves in my dress uniform, but when actually working, nah. ",
"Username checks out",
"I dunno. You sound Canadian to me,",
"I know right? I am sitting here thinking what kind of douche carries around hitler pictures in Germany?",
"cool dude, i said this wasn't some stupid shit like sig heiling, i said it was a cool piece of art that has meaning, all i was saying is that that might be hard to explain in german to a german who might find it offensive to see a tourist waving around a picture of hitler. we don't seem to disagree at all here. german cops are probably uber chill about a lot of shit but a tourist with a pocket full of hitler pics is going to have a hard time explaining him or herself to anyone especially if german isn't their first language.",
"No, it's a regulation thing. What's a unit thing is whether or not they enforce the regulation. o_O",
"Your friend should probably give it back. Looks to be a historically significant photo.",
"Why?",
"\"Er ist wieder da\" is in some ways more scary than \"der Untergang\". Because of the people they stop in the street asking them if they miss Hitler.",
"I'd be more concerned that if I got run over, the medics would find this picture in my pocket and let me bleed out.",
"That would be „eyh buddeh“",
"Risky click.",
"Totally not weird your girlfriend is packing a pic of Adolf with her.",
"If you don't joke about it you have to cry about it. It is that easy.",
"This is something that needs to be taught in schools, because this relates to how life was generations ago and how long life was like this. For many hundreds of years. Groups of people who followed the way of life on the land had to ultimately think and follow the culture and laws of the land that was put out by the leaders of the nation. I think too many people don't understand this. Or they just don't care about history.\n",
"Is your friend like 90+ years old because that's a pretty old pic.\n\nEdit: Wow. Some grump didn't appreciate the joke. OP?",
"The world would probably be a much different place if he had taken parts of Europe and then just chilled for a while building his army even more.",
">I am squashing your head.....",
"What could’ve been...",
"True, but not in that picture though",
"Amazing shot!!",
"uhmm we never put people in ovens tho",
"Umm. Ok? Not sure how this is relevant to what I said. ",
"Your friend had the perfect opportunity to assassinate Hitler, and did NOTHING. Complicity kills.",
"What part of Germany was this taken?",
"Yikes.",
"ok?",
"Pretty easy in Munich to be fair.",
"Shit.. the logo ruins it.",
"Yep",
"Munich",
"A great man...RIP 😢",
"> Are you worried about getting stopped and searched by the police and what they would think?\n\nWhy should he be?",
"Mate that comment was written like an 8 year old who just finished watching Inglorious Bastards for the first time. Calm down. ",
"\"I'm trying to see if I can find the place and what it looks today\"\n\nDone. Swastikas aren't taboo in some pseudo-religious sense, nor is it illegal to posses or import such a picture.\n\nAlso, I think the likelihood of customs going through your papers is rather low.",
"First of all, it's not illegal, and if you were to explain the purpose, I doubt they'd have an issue with it.\n\nSecond, where do you live that randomly getting stopped and searched by police is something you worry about?",
"Your friend has some serious gloves. ",
"DAE feminists are LITERALLY HITLER?!\n\nAlso, Hitler wasn’t so bad btw",
"That's really cool.",
"There should be a sub for this kind of thing. Not pics of Hitler but taking an old photo and finding where the location is now and holding it up in place. I think that would be pretty cool. ",
"And it was against the Jews which makes a big difference ",
"Look up General Plan Ost. \n\nWe hear about the Nazi concept of Lebensraum but don't usually put it together into context. They planned on genocide (and did to a significant extent) the East into wilderness and then colonizing it with Germans. ",
"Maybe if the concept of \"good\" is so ambiguous to you, that it could include people fighting for the genocide of the Jews then we should just not use that word.",
"It's not racist if the President says it.",
"Did they place the podium on one step below to make him look taller?",
"He's the most famous non-God ever in history and had a lot of great policies and stances.\n\nHe was the true hero of WW2, but the world just wasn't ready.",
"Why",
"In 50 years someone is gonna post a pic like this off the white house ",
"Ahh. The good ole' days when you had governments that were honest about their intentions.",
"Is your friend a member of some American neo-nazi party?",
"Fucking douche",
"You don't wear them for fashion lol",
"The United States. They call it Stop and Frisk. No probable cause required. In the majority of cases the subjects have been in a low income neighborhood and/or members of a visible minority.\n\nIn places where it is legal to carry marijuana but not to display it, the police can order a person to empty their pockets before a frisk (body search.). If in following the order the person takes some of that material out of their pocket, they can be arrested.\n\nOf course they can be arrested either way.\n\nA key to totalitarian control, well documented by historians, is to have a broad swath of restrictive laws such that, at any time, a citizen is more likely than not to be breaking at least one at any time.\n",
"Yes.",
"Notice he said 'enjoy'. Everybody gets to ride. Where that ride takes you though, well... lets just say it varies.",
"What kind of gloves are those? ",
"A decent metaphor for the way fascists tend to view the world.",
"Motorcycle glove?",
"On what do you base your claim that Germany had no nuclear program whatsoever?\n\nDo your sources refute accounts such as the following?\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_weapon_project",
"I think I would rather get caught with 200g of weed in Malaysia than with that photo in Germany.",
"Do Germans do this in America with slave plantations?",
"> looks really mystical\n\nYou mean fucking terrifying.",
"> wehraboo\n\ngenius",
"At least Germans have completely acknowledged what happened at that time. Germany today is an amazing vibrant wonderful place - Stunde Null ended up as a success.\n",
"Thank you for getting it xD",
"Ok. I see where you are.\n\nIn my view any killing of a Nazi might be right or wrong, depending upon the circumstances. \n\nJust as true: a good person, or a bad person can in a given moment perform a right or wrong action. One good act won't by any means necessarily redeem a long career of unremitting evil. Nor is it necessarily true that one evil act will erase an otherwise virtuous life, as things look to me.\n\nDo you disagree on any of these points?\n\nIf the theory that Hitler committed suicide is true, I'd have to know if the action arose simply from mental illness such as suicidal depression, before attempting to evaluate that action in any other way. Nor would there be any need to include that act in a final determination of whether Hitler was a bad person. He was, even though he was responsible for very many Nazi deaths whether or he himself appears on that roster.\n\nNo matter how he might have ended up killing himself, it would not redeem the millions of murders, rapes and tortures and other horrors he was responsible for.\n\nThe view that a good person can (under appropriate circumstances) morally kill a Nazi does not entail any claim that anyone who ever kills a Nazi is therefore good.\n\nAgain I'll ask if you disagree on any points.\nThanks.",
">The first effort started in April 1939, just months after the discovery of nuclear fission in December 1938, but ended only months later due to the German invasion of Poland, after many notable physicists were drafted into the Wehrmacht.\n\nOK. The Germans as good as had no programme. That would be more accurate. Britain was already researching a bomb theoretically well before the war.",
"https://i.imgur.com/CAcgXaA.jpg\nhttp://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40842853",
"I want to get off Mr.Hitlers wild ride.",
"That too, but I thought that was obvious",
"lol",
"Given how things are currently shaping up around the world with Germany no exception, I don't think they'd be much surprised or care at all. Maybe you'd even get a Sieg Heil from one of them. Security services of all kinds are notorious to be a draw for power hungry people (thus including our Neo Nazis).\n\nSource: Am German",
"Probably not. Nationalism has had a massive rise world wide. Sensationalist media outlets don't help the situation. "
] | 238 |
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My friend went to Germany and took this
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/r/pics/comments/7rvyzq/trump_supporter_with_buy_american_hire_american/
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"It looks like this post is about US Politics. Various methods of filtering out content relating to US Politics can be found [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/wiki/v2/resources/filter/politics).\n\n*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/pics) if you have any questions or concerns.*",
"Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. Or not.",
"Irony",
"\"Do I contradict myself? Very well then, I contradict myself.\" -Walt Whitman",
"Toyota, from the people that bombed Pearl Harbor. Dumb Trump supporters don't even know which way is up.",
"https://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2010/06/23/made-in-usa-a-toyota-is-most-american-car/",
"Chevy, from the people who nuked toys twice. \n\n\n",
"Ha. Username checks out.",
"Wut",
"Exactly.",
"No. I want an explanation.",
"Toyota employs more Americans than Ford does... Just sayin'...",
"You can't say username checks out on a statement that makes %100 complete sense and is not idiotic in any way.",
"Oh jeez. Toyota is a Japanese automotive manufacturer. On 12/7/41, the Imperial Japanese Navy Air Service attacked Pearl Harbor. I hope you can pretty much figure out the rest by the looking at the bumper stickers in the pic.",
"Yes I get the picture.. Toyota is Japanese... And.",
"> And.\n\n I hope you can pretty much figure out the rest by the looking at the bumper stickers in the pic.",
"Satire",
"What does this have anything to do with Chevy nuking toyota. ",
"Everything and anything.",
"All I want to know is how my username \"checks out\" then I will go to bed.",
"Well in that case, it's going to be a long night for you.",
"I only buy American made tires",
"Let me ask you this. When you said \"toys\", did you misspell Toyota? ",
"No. Have you never heard a Toyota being called a toy.?",
"No, just foreign garbage. You really like that down vote button, don't you. ;)",
"Downvote buttons are there.. yes.. not blue quite yet\n\nAlso, I don't mean toy in a bad way at all.. Toyotas a nice, fun cars. It's just what I was raised around. Everyone in my family calls them toys",
"Knowing a bit about auto manufacturing shows there isn't anything contradictory here.\n\nBoth Honda and Toyota have been manufacturing their vehicles in the United States for decades, employing tens of thousands of Americans in the midwest. \n\nMultinational corporations have workers throughout the globe. \n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Motor_Manufacturing_Kentucky\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marysville_Auto_Plant",
"I’m gonna imply a bit but the same people that say “buy/hire American” are usually the same ones mad that the illegal day laborer is doing a job (that could be given to an American) for less and then sending the money out of the country to his family. While I understand Toyota employs a fair amount of Americans I feel the end result is similar with the overall profit going to japan rather than continue to circulate in our own country. The car may have been built here but it’s not an American company at the end of the day. ",
"Copy paste from another reply. \n\nI’m gonna imply a bit but the same people that say “buy/hire American” are usually the same ones mad that the illegal day laborer is doing a job (that could be given to an American) for less and then sending the money out of the country to his family. While I understand Toyota employs a fair amount of Americans I feel the end result is similar with the overall profit going to japan rather than continue to circulate in our own country. The car may have been built here but it’s not an American company at the end of the day. ",
"I don't know the specifics of Toyota's tax liabilities, holdings and shell companies, but that seems misguided. \n\nThat would be like claiming Apple primarily benefits Ireland, because that's where it created subsidiaries to shelter tens of billions in profits, even though it's a US-based corporation. \n\nYou could go full Friedman and claim net benefit for tech workers in Silicon Valley, manufacturers in China, white collar support in Ireland, etc.",
"Mmh all the benefit of building and selling a car in America weather a Ford or Toyota makes little difference, right? Like how do you prefer Ford over Toyota? How is that company doing business in America keeping money in American circulation?\nLike if everyone is buying Toyota in America they might say well shit we need to build another factory. I think it's pretty silly to associate a company with a country. These are both transnational companies and are each subject to the same rules all around. Also fuck trump and anyone still duped by that shithole sack of McDonald's."
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Trump supporter with “Buy American hire American” sticker on a Toyota... and a ford sticker at the top of the rear window.
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[
"It's only 1 am and I'm tired of this shit ",
"This isint fair. That poor girl.",
"it seems protestors dont know how to pick up their garbage",
"This kid should be playing with toys, not be used as a political prop. What horrible parents,",
"That's a cute political prop. ",
"Trashing the sidewalk and forcing your 1 year old to go to some shitty protest. This doesn't actually do anything to help their cause.. if anything, it only serves to push people away from your cause. Circlejerking feels good, sure. But that doesn't always mean it's what's best..",
"I rememeber this was a big upset last year, but they actually paid for everything to be cleaned up ahead of time, it wasn't littered. I don't see why that wouldnt be the case this year.",
"Male sanitation workers get to clean that up. It's only fair, given all the emotional labor those women went through today. "
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Youngest protestor at the women’s march
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/r/pics/comments/7rvzwj/grabbing_lady_liberty_by_the/
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"/r/pics mods are truly the worst in the game ",
"Why did this get gold. Why. It makes no sense. Someone is paying someone to push an agenda",
"How does it make no sense? The man has admitted to it",
"They buy it for themselves. Isn't it obvious?",
"If I hadn’t bought gold for myself in the past 4 years, I don’t see why I would’ve now... thank you to whoever did! I appreciate you! ",
"You're just jealous.. and apparently blind. \n.\n\nEdit: I downvoted you because of the message I believe you're attempting to spread.. However, I must admit that the painting made me laugh and it served to strengthen my belief that my 2020 vote will be the same as 2016. Thank you."
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Grabbing Lady Liberty by the...
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/r/pics/comments/7rw1rn/unsplash_the_nature/
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"I feel like nature is only using like 4 colors in this picture to be awesome, which makes it even more awesome. I would buy a print of this...such a great photo.",
"yep, you can to feel the power of nature",
"The sky in this picture is an amazing color"
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Unsplash the nature
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/r/pics/comments/7rw2rp/had_a_pretty_empowering_day_at_the_womans_march_la/
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[
"I think I clicked the wrong icon.. this doesn't look like reddit. This is twitter.",
"In what way are you now \"empowered\" that you were not yesterday?",
"I am a person who usually never takes part on rallies like these, I just figured I'd stop by because I supported what these people (and I) were fighting for. Just going down and being a part of it really changed how I looked at woman's rights. I gave me the sense that we could really do something about it. More so then yesterday. I also dont think im close to anyone who has or had been affected by sexual harassment, and being around people who have, and who shared their stories, really showed me how real of an issue it is, and how it is something that needs to be stopped not just with big corporate leaders, but it needs to be stopped under all circumstances. After coming out of it today, I now really want to do more in helping end sexual harassment, and to premote women's rights , compared to yesterday as when I saw it as just another news story.",
"See, the issue most of us are taking is that those aren't the messages we're seeing. That's not what's getting spammed to this subreddit. It's nothing but anti-Trump circlejerk. Not saying it's undeserved, but everything you just said and all the meaning behind it is overshadowed by some old lady holding a sign calling Trump a cunt or some 1 year old being forced to be a political prop. What you said is actually pretty cool, and what I feel should be a major purpose and important factor in these rallies. Hopefully you can get your friends who attended to focus on this message rather than just saying fuck Trump. Because, yes, fuck Trump, but I don't need to be spammed on a irrelevant subreddit about it in order for me to decide whether I support him or not. Your message carries a lot of weight. I hope you and your buddies can focus this energy on a message that is more productive than saying Fuck Drumfpthf or whatever stupid signs keep getting posted by other users. ",
"Thank you for this, and I while I was there I did feel like there were tons of people there not really seeming to realize that this rally was about woman's rights as most of the signs seemed to be only fuck Trump. And while I do see that as the president he should never have or do anything to oppress women (or anyone for that matter) I did feel like part of the message that was trying to be portrayed by the march was just covered by all the fuck Trump stuff.\n",
"The Krusty Krab is unfair!\n\nMr. Krabs is in there!\n\nStanding at his concession!\n\nPlotting his oppression ! "
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Had a pretty empowering day at the womans march LA
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/r/pics/comments/7rw307/a_long_exposure_photo_of_a_budapest_tram_lit_up/
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"preparing to make the jump to hyperspace ",
"To infinity and beyond!",
"I didn’t know they remade Back to the Future, Part III. ",
"Oh chewie im cutting the sublight engines"
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A long exposure photo of a Budapest tram lit up with 30000 LED lights for Christmas (by Victor Varga)
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"Sorry if NSFW",
"Doggy nudity! Juicy- have you no shame?",
"Zeus obviously doesn’t lol. He’s a reflection of me",
"I wanna scratch that belly",
"His foot is on top of them. ",
"That's how you lay on the couch?!?",
"Lmao no! I just mean he has no shame",
"He's a Pitbull, of course he has no shame! The King never does!"
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With all the crappy stuff going on in the world, here is a picture of my dog reminding you all to relax a little 🙂
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/r/pics/comments/7rw4a5/today_i_got_back_a_piece_of_my_childhood_thought/
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"That's Jawsome OP!",
"Thank you! I'm legitimately the happiest I've been in a very long time!! ",
"Oh hey you found it too! As a kid I only ever had three episodes of Street sharks: the pilot, the one with the burgers and the old time castle, and the one where they met the new kalamari enemy and one got poisoned. I rewatched those episodes soooo many tines that the dialogue, sound cues and fights were just engrained in my head.",
"Holy shit! Haven’t seen anything Street Sharks in forever. I used to love that shit. You, sir, are one lucky man"
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Today, I got back a piece of my childhood thought to be lost from me forever.
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/r/pics/comments/7rw4ap/still_doing_office_birds_this_huge_falcon_has/
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[
"**drops mic**",
"Ok Elon.... go build a rocket and leave us pleebs alone.\n#humblebragger",
"Oddly enough, /r/spacex would ban/delete this post, being low effort or something. :p",
"I see what you did there you sneaky little bastard. ",
"You'd think it would leave to go get food or something...",
"What did you feed it?",
"Elon is that you?\n",
"It's head is gone...",
"Sure, but /r/SpaceXLounge would probably allow it. 🚀",
"It used to eat complex hydrocarbons, but I've only fed it attention and respect. ",
"No, but I've seen him eat lunch.",
"Try putting a dead mouse out and see if it eats it.",
"Nice..... (nods head up and down)",
"so your basically a celebrity",
"I'm sure aliens have food requirements too.",
"Buzz is that you?",
"let's go",
"They allow you to go outside?",
"Nah. This is from the drone program. We send them to do all sorts of things we don't have time for: outdoor photography, snack runs, smoke breaks, date night, etc."
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Still doing office birds? This huge Falcon has been outside my office for over a year.
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"He looks uncomfortable. Glad you got a pic of it... not really. He might have been playing it off until after the festival because he realized the chair was broken. You rather he sit on the ground?",
"Was he drunk?",
"What is even going on there? Is it upside down, inside and round and round?",
"Not that I could tell! He did sport nice a printed tuxedo shirt however... he was actually a nice guy. I just struggled not to plan how I was going to assist him when the last piece snapped and he was impaled the whole time I was chatting to him!",
"It worked. He was fine with that. Hell it was probably more comfortable."
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This guy unpacked this chair that he bought with him. Sat like this all through the festival, like it was totally normal. THEN packed it up with him when he left!
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"what",
"yes",
"oh",
"Seek help.",
"Looks Shopped to me.",
"This is Trump's fantasy and a red hat's wet dream.",
"Stop get some help",
"While I actually commend you for going against the circlejerk grain on this sub, I have to admit.. this is just as bad as the spam from the other side. ",
"Why does she look so happy to be slain?",
"And for good reason!",
"/u/Whitecapsown, thank you for your submission. Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule II - No gore or other NSFL content.\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/Whitecapsown&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rw4pw/just_the_rightful_president_slaying_the/?context=10\\))",
"[Poe's Law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law) in action."
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Just the rightful President slaying the misogynistic, racist, criminal, rape apologist murderer. #Progress #SocialJustice
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/r/pics/comments/7rw686/the_bottom_of_dominos_pizza_boxes_tells_you_the/
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"If someone's looking at the bottom of the box they've probably already fucked it up.",
"No worries, Dominos has a carryout insurance. Which no one will totally take advantage of",
"Cashier: \"If you flip the box over you'll find directions for proper carrying technique.\"",
"I object to the handedness suggestion. Being right-handed, I'm carrying with my left to leave my right hand free for keys, doors, etc.",
"These directions are made for the same type of people that are eating tide pods."
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The bottom of Dominos pizza boxes tells you the proper way to carry said box
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/r/pics/comments/7rw6ua/how_is_this_possible_2500_points_but_only_1700/
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"I am assuming I'm just a potato and do not know the reddit counters intimately enough. If that makes sense. ",
"some fuckery is afoot?\n\nOr someone upvoted based on title alone, without clicking the content.\n\nor bots, algorithms. fuck who knows on here anymore.",
"Well fuck me this will be removed because I didn't read the rules. Lmao. Sorry mods. \n\n>note that we are not a catch-all for general images (of screenshots, comics, etc.)",
"If your post covers everything just in head line and picture some people probably upvoted without opening the post.",
"I upvote without looking from my app all the time.",
"/u/malioswa, thank you for your submission. Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule I - No screenshots. This includes pictures of screens and photos where the interest is the contents of a screen.\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/malioswa&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rw6ua/how_is_this_possible_2500_points_but_only_1700/?context=10\\))"
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How is this possible? 2500 points but only 1700 views WTF?
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/r/pics/comments/7rw7dh/moss_covered_tree_i_cant_tell_if_i_like_taking/
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"Iso 200 1/6sec 44mm(88mm) f5.6",
"That front rock looks like a head/face with mutton chops ",
"This almost looks as if it would fit into a subreddit that makes people guess if it's an aerial shot or a macro...",
"Is that a thing? ",
"Best part is there are no rocks in this shot. All bark. Blew my mind how it looked. ",
"I don't know... If it's not, it should be. Like a photography version of /r/FiftyFifty."
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Moss covered tree. I can't tell if I like taking macro shots more than landscapes yet.
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/r/pics/comments/7rw7ns/a_solder/
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[
"Hey you seen the new VT-16?",
"How the fuck do you spell it wrong when it’s at the top of the piece?",
"They might be dum",
"This looks so cool ",
"Know what? I’m a dum dum sometimes too. Especially when it comes to one of the things I love most in this world. Women. So I ain’t mad at OP anymore. Shit happens"
] | 5 |
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A solder
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"Perhaps, but if the pilot starts flying straight into a volcano and blaming Mexicans for it, I think we need to do more than hope for the best. ",
"Sounds like that butt-hole Steve Garrington should have taken a bus.",
"What if the pilot has already failed before you get on the plane? Doesn’t know how to taxi to the runway, can’t decide which runway to use, changes his mind about where the plane will fly to every 15 minutes, has no idea how to get the plane off the ground and no clue how to steer it in the air. \n\nWould you fly with a pilot like that? Or would you demand that the airline replace him, instead of being complicit in allowing him to harm thousands of lives by letting try to fly that plane?",
"The idea is that it's too late for that, and you're already taking off. \n\nDo you want him to fail?\n\nNo! Of course not.\n\nYou better wish him all the success in the world til you land and get ready to board the next flight.",
"You make a good point.\n\nSome people presumably want the country to come to ruin just to show all the Republicans how messed up they are so they realize the liberals were right all along and they start voting Democrat. That's bad for the country in the process, which is the point OP was making.\n\nOther people want Trump to fail *at* things. They want him to fail at dismantling the ACA, cutting taxes, curtailing reproductive rights, and packing the supreme court with conservative judges.\n\nNot really the same thing.\n\n",
"The author has already forgotten what country this is.\n\nThe legendary place ^\\* ~~known~~ as America failed first, by forgetting who they are, and what they're for. Who they elected is only a symptom.\n\nEdit: * once known",
"His simile's not a bad one, but he neglected a few details. \n\nWe all knew the pilot before the flight and that he was not qualified. He'd never flown a plane before, but had spent a lot of time captaining boats and criticizing other pilots. But some passengers liked that he wanted to wall off sections of the terminal so none of the other carriers' passengers could ask the gate agents if there were any available seats on his flight in case their flights were delayed or canceled. And to kick off the passengers that had originally booked with the other carriers, but had successfully gotten a seat on his plane. \n\nHe also announces over the intercom that he's going to give everyone on the plane a rebate on their ticket, but not first class because they already have a more comfortable flight. He then has flight attendants hand out vouchers to everyone in coach redeemable for free in-flight peanuts; fully refunds the ticket costs for everyone in first class; and signs everyone in first class up for a lifetime rewards program that will make all future tickets cheaper. \n\nOh, and he still has no fucking clue how to fly a plane. The co-pilot has \"Jesus is my Co-Pilot\" tattooed on his forehead, but he's at least flown some smaller planes before. God help him if a stewardess comes into the [awkward gulp] cockpit without his wife present, though. ",
"Our pilot was chosen by the enemy deliberately to crash us into a mountain.",
"*Exactly.*\n\nIf the pilot's actively trying to crash the plane, you hope someone shoots the motherfucker and takes over.",
"I don't know what the secret service has to do with a pilot trying to crash a plane. I was talking about Germanwings flight 9525. If only someone could have done something, those 150 people could've gone on living their lives.",
"And what if the company that owns the airline, the federal regulators who concern themselves with pilot capability and the watchdog groups that report on bad pilots are all in cahoots to put an incompetent pilot at the wheel?",
"I've heard this a bunch of times, but this argument is an oversimplification and a logical fallacy. The plane pilot has one goal everyone agrees on - to get you there safely. For a president, we want him to succeed at doing WHAT, exactly? He's there to pass his political agenda. If his political agenda includes things like redistributing the wealth of the nation to the wealthy, taking health care away from kids, and deporting tens of thousands of kids who don't remember any country other than America, then I can wholeheartedly say that I hope he fails, and fails so spectacularly and embarrassingly that no one ever considers doing those things again.",
"But in this situation, our pilot got through multiple interviews with the airline without having ever been to flight school, and failing means we can eject him mid flight and have a real pilot take over."
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We are all in this together!
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[
"ive been through this :)",
"This right here is 3 am at the family cottage to me",
"The noises always bring me back",
"I downloaded first this when I got my computer. You never know when you'll need it. ",
"Just the other day someone was talking about this game here on Reddit. They even gave a download link, but, like an idiot, I didn't copy it down. Would someone that reads this comment or the thread therein please provide said link? u/hsvsgtakimb (unpronounceable) and I want to play it.",
"Here's a throwback https://youtu.be/Zjahf8b1Itc",
"No, I remember this from the primary school lunch breaks",
"You can download and play this game. ",
"... For ten minutes. Half an hour, tops. Then you went back to lusting after your wealthy neighbor's dial up. ",
"/u/hsvsgtakimb, thank you for your submission. Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule I - No pictures with added/superimposed digital elements.\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/hsvsgtakimb&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rw9uq/i_miss_it_very_much/?context=10\\))",
"[This one?](https://www.groovypost.com/howto/windows-7-3d-pinball-space-cadet-game/)",
"If I had a nickel for every nickel I pumped into a pinball machine in the 60s, I'd have... a lot of nickels."
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I miss it Very Much
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[
"What caused this?",
"One says stop, one says slow down or proceed with caution...be glad neither of them said \"go\".",
"I do not like them, Sam I am.",
"Diet and care differences between chickens, probably. As an American who is used to the very bright yellow egg yolks, it was kind of surprising to see that eggs in Australia are a very strong orange color.",
"That means someone cursed you. But the dark egg sucked the evil out of you before it could hurt you. You're supposed to burn it on a pyre to destroy the evil. Yeah... some of us were raised with Santaria..",
"r/hmmm",
"one is gain and one is a tide pod",
"store bought vs homegrown",
"They come from different batches (Bought in the U.K.), one is a free range supermarket brand and the other a fancier free range farm brand ",
"Diet. Birds cannot make the color red. They get it solely from what they eat. A male bird that has a lot of red in its plumage is usually considered by females as a better mate since it obviously has a better home territory and food.\n\nSource: Backyard chicken owner. We've had chickens for just over ten years. In the winter when they almost-exclusively eat bagged feed, we can really see the difference in the yolks. The chicken-chow does have marigold extract in it, but it by no means makes up for the birds being out in the lawn eating fresh plants and bugs."
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Difference between these yolks
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[
"Even just the sound of him is something quite atrocious.",
"Frankly, I’d be willing to wager at least half of them forgot why the hell they are so angry, apart from, “Hillary lost.“ Many of those who haven’t yet will.",
"It looks like this post is about US Politics. Various methods of filtering out content relating to US Politics can be found [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/wiki/v2/resources/filter/politics).\n\n*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/pics) if you have any questions or concerns.*",
"Yeah must be really hard to forget about the fact you don’t wanna be rapped, beaten, paid less money, or worse. Yup simple equal rights sure are easy just to forget. Grow a brain Catholic ",
"And yet women are better treated in the USA than pretty well anywhere else on earth. I don’t know where these people got it in their heads that Trump seeks to worsen their situation, but it’s ridiculous, and a little more gratitude for their station is called for. BTW: not Catholic. You’re just an ignorant fool with the virus of conventional wisdom in your brain. ",
"I don’t think anyone wants women to be raped, beaten, paid less or worse unless they are complete psychopaths. Although I don’t support Trump (and I didn’t support Obama either), I don’t see how he is trampling women’s rights other than abortion issues (he was pro choice before the republican ticket forced him to change his view) which you didn’t even mention. Just because you don’t like the man don’t be another ignorant mouthpiece because it makes you look bad, not the other way around. \n\nThe examples you gave happened under every administration since we have had presidents and if you want to do something about it then be a better example for women, not start go fund me pages for handouts. \n\nAnd I’m curious.. what does being Catholic (I’m not religious) have anything to with the point you are trying to get across?",
"Your not a woman, I’m not a woman, I’m not blaming trump, or any other president, or wannabe president. All I’m saying is that things are worse than you may realize, certainty worse than I thought, and your continued ignorance is thank goodness slowly vanishing from this world as some day you an I both will. As far as the catholic comment I thought your name was father John or some shit but I looked at the wrong name apparently. ",
"I blame all the presidents since JFK for what America is now. I’m not ignorant to what’s going on in this country and maybe I’m too aware because it’s scary. I have teenage daughters and I want them to make informed decisions on their own and not play follow the leader because it’s cool to hate Trump right now.\n\nI really can’t tell if these rally’s are pro women’s rights or anti-trump. And I don’t think half the people there know a single thing about what they are fighting for and that kind of ignorance spreads like cancer."
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SuperCallousFragileRacistSexistLyingPotus
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/r/pics/comments/7rwbn6/my_onion_is_sexier_than_yours/
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[
"/u/razor10000? ",
"Just checking. ",
"this is legit lol",
"Dem layers ",
"Those hips",
"Delicious ",
"\"Girl had an onion ass. You know what an onion ass is...? It could bring tears to your eyes!",
"**thicc**",
"r/Pareidoliagonewild",
"Onion Booty is what brought me into adulthood. ",
"The **REAL** Onion Booty. \n\nIt looks a little wet. Were those tears? Or other happy liquids? ",
"Too hot!",
"Damn right! Can you teach me?",
"Nice",
"My tears are now my lube.",
"Oh yeah? Well, you have an onion butt.",
"Brings tears to my eyes.",
"Must be Brazilian.",
"That glistening ass",
"What's with all these r/funny stuff on r/pics?",
"Redefining bunion right there.",
"*unzips*",
"Do.. do I wanna fuck an onion?",
"This actually reminds me of an old joke that goes like this... \"What do you get when you cross a donkey and an onion? 99% of the time you get nothing, but every now and then you'll get a piece of ass that brings tears to your eyes.\"",
"whoa! this is nsfw!",
"DAmmmmm those curves tho",
"Stupid sexy onion",
"lol funny ",
"But...",
"How many beers?",
"Tan lines ",
"Damn dat a--nion?",
"it's one of those illusions where you can either see a butt or boobs",
"I T S J U S T T O O T H I C C",
"I LIKE big bulbs and I can not lie...",
"Mmmmmm onions. I could eat an onion for hours",
"[That is a sexy Onion.](https://i.imgur.com/pgzadj8.jpg)",
"What that mean?",
"So much BOOOOOOOOO.",
"If you don't remember the *real* onion booty..\n\nYour too young bro. ",
"Kardasonion.",
"Onion button jeans. Boots with fur. With furrr",
"\"Got those onion bottom jeans. Boots with the fur.\" \n\nnah, doesn't have the same ring...",
"Shallotta junk in that trunk",
"Brings all the bugs to the yard.",
"Bumion",
"“Big ol’ onion booty make the whole world cry”",
"And the gas always makes you cry. "
] | 48 |
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My onion is sexier than yours
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/r/pics/comments/7rwc13/small_victories/
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[
"lol with lots of potential ",
"Really wish I could see the owner of the truck arrive on the scene. ",
"Yes. Wee need updates on this. ",
"This is what happens when you go about town with your dick hanging out. ",
"I had a dually driver yell at me for parking the other night. I took a turn from the street into two spots within a lot and I could only make one (the bigger end spot) without multiple turns. This guy was really close to me so I took the one I could and he parked right behind me (in the aisle.) I got out and he unrolled his window \"you couldn't have taken the smaller spot?\" \"I didn't have the angle.\" \"well congrats, now you have two spots.\" then he drove off to park in the far part of the lot.\n\nIt's not my fault you drive a dually, if you drive one you should know you're probably not getting great parking. ",
"If he opens the truck door far it might total that hot wheels \n\nBut yes he did park like a giant asshole ",
"Turn the steering wheel to the right, press gas, go home...",
"Depends if there are cars on the other side of that median. ",
"Is the truck too long for a space? But yeah that'd be his own fault too ",
"Inb4 the truck owner came back from sprinting, because traffic was slower than running, his 8 year old daughter to the emergency room because she was exposed to peanuts and has a serious allergy.",
"An extended cab truck with a full sized bed is longer than the parking space. Normally you'd just park in a pull through space and take up both of them, but obviously the curb is in the way here. So would you rather he park like this or park normally and be sticking 4 feet out into the isle? \n\nEDIT: Since I'm getting downvoted a standard parking space is [18 feet long](http://qcode.us/codes/temecula/view.php?topic=17-17_24-17_24_050) and a dodge ram quad cab is [20.3 feet long](http://dodgeram.info/2001/dimensions.html) not including the bumper",
"The big dent leads me to believe it's a work truck, believe it or not but some people actually need a big truck. ",
"Those fit in normal spaces.",
"i wish i could see the outcome to these type of pics.",
"This isn't really a big truck tho. Just an average sized truck.",
"I've driven a 4 door long bed ram 2500 and it fits fine in normal spots like this. The only time i pull through is if i have a trailer.",
"Standard parking space is 18 feet a 2500 ram quad cab is 20.3 feet",
"A standard parking space is 18 feet and a 2500 quad cab Ram is 20.3 feet. ",
"Even if it doesn’t fit in a normal space, back in hang the edge of the bed and bumper over the parking divider. ",
"So a whole 2.3 feet hangs out, so what. The truck in the pic is way shorter than a ram quad cab, so he wouldn't hang out 4ft like you stated.",
"Plus the bumper which is another 8 inches or so. That means you're hanging 3 feet over the space. In a crowded parking lot that is a huge amount. There was a mcdonalds that I couldn't go to because the spaces were like this up against the building and the rows were so tight that people literally couldn't have gotten by. ",
"my point was more that there are a lot of circumstances where you do have to park like this. In a lot where you can't find a pull through because there are other cars lined up 2-3 feet over is a pretty big amount. ",
"So you would rather me take up 5 spots than drive around me? Unless the rows were 8ft wide (which they never are) then theres no way im blocking the whole row. Also the truck in the picture is a nissan frontier extended cab short bed. Its only 17.5 ft long it can easily fit in a spot.",
"The problem isn't the truck, but the fact the driver is taking 3 spaces to park it. Either park like a normal person, or park way the fuck away so you're not hogging prime parking space. ",
"It looks like there are several open spaces in the photo alone. ",
"If i buy a truck twelve spaces long do I get to take up a whole row? ",
"that isnt a fucking quad cab"
] | 27 |
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Small victories
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/r/pics/comments/7rweyd/one_of_two_surviving_blockbusters_in_anchorage/
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[
"Money laundering fronts.",
"Do you have crappy internet in Alaska? Because blockbuster is a hell of a lot better than waiting on Netflix buffering every 5 minutes. ",
"Yes and agreed, but we never really have buffering issues. Just crappy internet providers.",
"There are *TWO* surviving Blockbusters?!",
"Can confirm : I moved from northern VA to Alaska. I couldn’t believe my eyes when I saw this",
".....Which leads to buffering.",
"Hell, where in Anchorage is this? If I had known I would have passed by to take a picture",
"DeBarr"
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One of two surviving Blockbusters in Anchorage.
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[
"Or Tom Hanks just found another clue in the Da Vinci Code",
"Bit of a grainy picture.",
"Such a cool pic"
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The sun hitting this chair leg in my kitchen creates something that looks like a cut log of wood
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/r/pics/comments/7rwh8v/a_note_hanging_from_this_taxi_drivers_steering/
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[
"That's heartwarming. :)",
"Awesome.",
"Plot twist; this taxi driver does not have children. ",
"Noticed it on a friends fridge and swiped it...",
"It’s actually a secret code. If you combine every red word together in order you get: \n\n*Daddy, you working hard us. Love a love*\n\nHer dad is a police officer (Daddy, you working hard us) and this taxi driver kidnapped her (love a love is a double negative which makes it hate, as in she hates her kidnapper) she probably meant to give that note to her dad somehow but the kidnapper found it and kept it as a souvenir. ",
"Plot twist: the photo is the taxi driver. ",
"RIP, friend.",
"Milking some tips.",
"His wife has terrible handwriting.",
"I know you're technically not claiming this as your own interaction but I was about to guild [this repost] (https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/3rcu7v/a_note_hanging_from_this_taxi_drivers_steering/?sort=confidence) so you could pay it forward and make sure this driver got the tip he deserved. Luckily I checked. \n \nEdit: Rather than reply to angry people individually I'll just leave this here. When I saw this I was coming off a 14 hour (night) shift preparing to be with my kids all day whilst my wife goes to work. We work hard to make sure our kids can have a safe and secure future with little to no help from family. We don't have a lot of money. I intended to guild this picture in the hope that OP would pay it forward of their own good will. The image touched me as a hard working father. \n \nI'm on no pedestal, I just checked OP's profile and saw their last post was a common repost. I just wanted to make sure nobody else was feeling as giving as me. It's still a lovely image. \n \nEdit 2: Reddit on a Sunday is a cesspool of crappy, unhappy people who hate their own existence. ",
"what's a taxi?",
"I used to make stuff like this for my dad. But he would never acknowledge it and I would find it in the trash sometimes. Kudos to your taxi driver for putting it up on display. \nEdit: My dad loves me, it just bothers me that he was sloppy with stuff. For him, things don't hold much emotional value.",
"Well that's sad",
"melted",
"Plot twist: Resi is the taxi driver.",
"Anyone seeking more info might also check here:\n\ntitle | points | age | /r/ | comnts\n:--|:--|:--|:--|:--\n[\\[Image\\] X-Post Pics : A note hanging from this taxi driver's steering wheel](http://www.reddit.com/r/Frisson/comments/3re1cg/image_xpost_pics_a_note_hanging_from_this_taxi/) | 748 | 2^yrs | Frisson | 18\n[A note hanging from this taxi driver's steering wheel](http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/3rcu7v/a_note_hanging_from_this_taxi_drivers_steering/) | 5527 | 2^yrs | pics | 1285\n\n*[Source: karmadecay](http://karmadecay.com/results/u9976113)*",
"That's great!",
"This logic is flawless",
"*swiper no swiping*",
"Do~~n~~'t for~~get you're~~ her~~e forever~~",
"Aww man",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dhjmSp30jc",
"Wow thank you. I know karma is dumb, but I’m not going to give an upvote to a fucking slime ball that’s trying to tug at my head strings.",
"I have been remodeling my kitchen and dining room the last couple months. It takes forever because I just do a small amount each day as I find time after work. It's been really stressing and draining me. A few days ago my son, 4 years old, gave me a big hug and a kiss and said daddy, thank you for building me a home.",
"[Homer had something similar in The Simpsons](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ab/Simpsons6x13.jpg/235px-Simpsons6x13.jpg) ",
"I wipe myself clean with an old love letter.",
"it sounds like something a Thai ladyboy would mutter in their sleep.",
"\"A lot\" is actually spelled correctly. Praise the sun.",
"M E T A",
"That was my password at work for a while after my daughter was born.",
"Spoke to an old taxi driver on a long hungover ride home. He spoke of his kids and how he hasn't seen them in 5 years as he let his wife and kids moves to the States for a better life while he stayed and worked 16 hour days. He's proudest of being able to send his daughter violin lessons with the money he makes. ",
"Bruh",
"First thing I thought of too",
"how is he claiming this as his own?\n\nedit: comment-OP a word",
"and what a plot it was",
"In this world, not citing source = claiming as one's own. ",
"In this world, not citing source = claiming as one's own. ",
"I meant 'not', I have amended. Thank you. ",
"hunter2",
"bc everything is fake until proven real",
"If I saw this I would 100% tip hard, so pretty good ploy if so.",
"I get that it's cool to get upvotes and all, but I don't understand why you'd lie (through implication, but still) to get them. It's super lame.",
"I was in this guy's taxi a few times. Chap called Benny. He kept going on about how \"he had 5 kids to feed\", and then on the final trip he slipped up and said he only had 4! He was lying the whole time, he admitted he wasn't even married!\n\nI had the last laugh though, messed him up real good with a massive mining drill...",
"Conveniently angled to allow for easy reading by compassionate passengers.\n\nI hope that I am wrong though and this is just an innocent act :)",
"Oh man that stirred up some feels ",
"\"Pay it forward\"? What, a Reddit guilding that can't be redeemed for cash? Stop with the holier than thou attitude",
"alot",
"Who is lying? I swear you guys are seeing something different to me. ",
"Star Wars did it first",
"Why'd the driver deserve a tip? Did we check his driving record and ensure he's driving harder than other professional drivers?",
"I am not a real person, just twenty two words using a mix of twenty six letters put in a certain order. ",
"I just see asterisks.",
"Begone and don't waste my time child ",
"we're all bots",
"What makes anyone here a \"slime ball\"? It's just a sweet picture you may not have seen before. ",
"I don't know about your dad, but kids make a ton of stuff. Most of it goes in the trash, though I think dads should make sure that the kids don't see it there.",
"/r/Simpsonsdidit",
"( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)",
"Mhmm yeah. Sure sure sure. So touching. Wow",
"[Alot.](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_D_Z-D2tzi14/S8TRIo4br3I/AAAAAAAACv4/Zh7_GcMlRKo/s400/ALOT.png)",
"Thats what we call tip placement",
"You're right about that. In my post, it seems as though my dad didn't care about me. My dad isn't emotionally unavailable just sloppy. ",
"Stfu",
"Legit made me cry during my morning smoke. So dad. Much sweet. Max wholesome. ",
"Didn’t you get the memo? Reddit Karma will be the next digital currency!",
"You okay?",
"You think this is the real quaid.",
"The thing was probably flailing around the entire drive, op probably had a few attempts to get a decent, not blurry photo of it. ",
"I think the implication is that, unless something is marked or clearly discernible to not be, any given post is original content that came from the OP. Hence, when that turns out to not be the case, it’s considered to be lying or dishonest to some degree. ",
"Some people take reposts ridiculously serious. If you’re spamming crap all the time ok\n\nBut sharing a sweet message like this from 2 years ago I really don’t see the harm there\n\n",
"Apparently everyone who has ever reposted is a liar. I could see that had anyone claimed this as their own, however I like to think they were just reminding us of this wholesome thing that had happened to somebody at some point in time.",
"Gild",
"this needs more upvotes!",
"I’m so high and you just blew my mind ",
"My eyes are leaking. ",
"\"Welp, Resi doesn't sound white, better deport him!\" -Trump ",
"Wait what? Does this mean I can't actually cash in my upvotes? Blast! This whole reddit conquest has been a waste of time!",
"He/She doesn't like Simpsons",
"What a great way to get tips",
"There's literally nothing in the title that indicates OP claimed as his own. People are just seeing things.\n\nPost-stealing/karma-whoring is a separate issue though. ",
"Probably about as worthwhile as all the cryptos to be fair.",
"I'd be weirded out if I thought my passenger was taking pics of my junk.\n",
"sucker. he was after a tip. he doesnt have a daughter. ",
"It's true man, those taxi drives work super hard all day.",
"Does it normally say “don’t forget to sign here” or something?",
"Good bot",
"I downvoted OP. I can't stand this karma whoring garbage. Some people just live to accumulate fake internet points.",
"Le edge is strong with this one.",
"That seems a rather foolish assumption given that most content is not original. I personally look for the opposite - assume posts are not original unless OP specifies or has elaborated in comments etc. I don’t think its fair to say people are lying because you invented an unspoken rule that only some of reddit subscribes to lol. ",
"teach your child better values.",
"\"Don't forget, you're here forever.\"",
"Is someone chopping onions in here?!",
"You alright dude?",
"But that’s simply not how Reddit works. If it weren’t for reposts, Reddit would be a much less intriguing place due to the lack of content turnover.",
"Don’t forget you’re here forever",
"If you don't want to upvote then that's entirely on you but your apparent anger is just stupid.",
"My GF did it first",
"My dad was a single parent he worked all day cleaning the streets while I was at school and when I got home he would drive taxis till the early hours of the morning everyday for years just to make sure I never went without. ",
"Don't forget you're here forever ",
"What's up mate? ",
"I like how you think he deserves a great tip just because he has a note from his daughter in his cab. For all you know he could have been the rudest taxi driver ever",
"It's the simple things in life that make it worth living. Money is only a tool to maintain the necessities needed to preserve an environment where the simple things can thrive.",
"Don't forget,\nYou are here forever. ",
"Reminds me of the Simpsons 'Do it for her'",
"He posted something from several years ago, that hasn't been posted recently, that he didn't claim to be original, and that the majority of people here (likely including yourself) hasn't seen before? He did nothing wrong here and you are being a douche",
"Why",
"great and nice",
"Stir The Feels Up",
"What do you care?",
"Not to mention, they may not have seen it on Reddit.",
"Who shat in your cereal? ",
"Oh, you would tip hard? Yeah? You big hard tipper, uh? How hard would you tip? I'd tip me, i'd tip me so hard.",
"I don’t know. On most other forums, like a newspaper, it’s generally assumed that the article you’re reading was written by someone working at that newspaper outlet, or someone who submitted it to them, and they usually specify otherwise, rather than specifying “Hey, we wrote this for once!”. It’s not hard to extend that principle to reddit. ",
"Need to talk?",
"Original content is typically marked \"OC\" or at least had something that suggested a personal involvement, such as \"my taxi driver today...\"\n\nThis has neither. It's not claiming to be OC. The fact you read it to be says something about you, not the post.\n\n",
"Seems like a good tactic for making a potential robber too guilty to rob you.",
"*gild, Mr. President",
"Brb gonna go cry",
"Don’t forget you’re here forever",
"Working hard? As a taxi driver? His kids should try to go to an african mine and see other kids working really hard.",
"One of the greatest moments in tv history. Thanks for the nostalgia",
"Exactly my thoughts.. great strategy, let's see how it pays off.",
"My dad had something similar on his desk at work. Saw it last year (I’m in my early 20s now) and got pretty emotional. \n\nEasy to forget how much you mean to your parents. ",
"DON'T BE THAT PERSON, DWAYNE",
"Spaces like reddit are actually well suited to a token economy. Imagine if you could tip real value to the person posting instantly. Instead of just giving money to reddit, it was actually profitable to make good OC. It's on its way, by the way. There will be a crypto application on reddit soon enough.",
"*Sherlock intro rolls*",
"Stfu",
"Good tactic to get tipped well.",
"If a taxi driver tells you that he's working 16 hour days, you should probably get another taxi.",
"Was listening to cat's in the cradle when I read this comment.",
"Probably my the same people who love copy pastas ironically.",
"That's definitely not going to haunt emergency response if they have to pull his corpse from a crash... ",
"What's up mate? ",
"r/nothingeverhappens",
"Dot for her",
"Who cares, it was 2 years ago. Jesus. ",
"What? Like you giving gold means that guy is owed a tip. What sort of bs is that? It's a cute picture but how could you even pay it forward when it's likely a random taxi driver the person that took the picture won't meet again.",
"We're all just \"mining\" R-coin, right?",
" To your parents, you are their world their everything.....even though you are little shits most of the time.",
"I just got home from Sunday overtime and got yelled at as soon as I stepped in the door for being too loud. ",
"“Simpsons did it! Simpsons did it!”",
"homer made it for himself",
"I think you may have made the mistake you thought I did. I never explicitly said that I operate on that assumption. I believe I was very passive about it. However, you read it to mean that I make that assumption, assuming there was my involvement when there wasn’t. Similarly, when people think OP is being dishonest for reposting, even though it was never explicitly indicated that OP was involved (in this case), they assume that OP was. \n\nTo clarify, I’m not arguing for that standard, I’m simply trying to explain what I think the rationale is behind it. ",
"I think there's a bot somewhere that you can leverage with a ! command to tip someone a satoshi. No idea how it works though, I assume you'll have to give it your wallet somehow, because how else is it gonna pay the tip?",
"Aren't people making bank on crypto tho?",
"[relevant](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dhjmSp30jc)",
"Perhaps in the future, just hodl them for now.",
"Her handwriting is perfectly childish ",
"hahaha... yah but I live where you don't give tips to taxi drivers. He asked where I was from and said his kids were in the States too. Got talking about why he couldn't go too. Wife's sister lives in the State so it was cheaper just for her and the kids to go. He didn't have much. Never takes a day off unless he's really sick. Guy was about 55. Taxi driving is about the only job a guy his age can get without a college degree. So you'll see old men like him a lot doing the same thing for his \"goose family\".",
"Cure girls",
"You caring this much about this is more pathetic than people caring about karma ",
"Yes. ",
"Repost of a comment on the original submission.. https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/3rcu7v/a_note_hanging_from_this_taxi_drivers_steering/cwn8ftz/",
"You do not know that whatsoever.",
"Check steem out :p",
"Before Homer was turned into a moron",
"Yeah, probably. I follow a similar line of thought when it comes to forums like Reddit and 4chan. I do however apply a different standard when it comes to things like the news, which is to assume things are original. Some people may carry that over. ",
"r/wholesomememes",
"Yes, if they sent OP crypto they could actually use it for something.",
"That’s still 8 hours for sleep.",
"Sponsor him hyundai",
"I suppose those kids will cherish the violin lesson more than having spent time with their dad.",
"Goddamit,my neighbours are cutting onions ",
"It kinda is though...reddit started as a news aggregator, i.e. designed from the very start for people to share things they **found** with others, and the voting system ranks it. \n\nAt no point did it become OC centric. It’s absolutely welcome here, but that was never the default assumption. ",
"Brother?\n",
"Obvious pander is obvious. ",
"People who are duping other people into buying crypto and inflating the value of their investments are. ",
"When my mom was about 6 years old, she wrote a note to her mom (my grandmother) that said \"Mommy, I love you a lot. Also, can I have an ice cream cone?\"\n\n",
"My grandfather was like that to my dad. He is now 10x the man I could ever hope to be. I hope that emotional neglect festers and if/when you have children, you provide them with everything you were denied. I'm sorry you had to experience that callousness. Tomorrow I'm going to let my father know how appreciated he is and was to my development. ",
"\nSo worth billions. Right.",
"[An even older one here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2x35ek/seen_hanging_from_the_steering_column_of_a_taxi/), which gives credit to /u/dkmag.",
"100%\n\nBig writing, facing the customer...",
"Damn it. Came online for funny stuff, leaving teary eyed and calling my dad. ",
"Stfu",
"Well you could sell the entire account, which are bought for Karma so...profit?",
"better get yourself checked, did you put something in there?",
"This is the kind of thing you keep until your kid is an adult, and then show them while telling them how much it meant to you. It might mean the world to you now, but to them later in life it could mean even more. <3",
"Directly copied from [previous post](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/3rcu7v/comment/cwn8ftz?st=JCOP4POS&sh=4791d830) \n\n",
"Hit me right in the feels. Fake or not.",
"Don't forget, you're here forever",
"Why exaggerate so much?",
"Can confirm: your username’s accuracy. ",
"So sweet if it was in his wallet, but on display makes me gag.",
"Because of nostalgia and feels. Because it encapsulated what made Simpson’s so good in its golden era",
"This just made me breath a little heavy when I read it. Mostly kids just drive daddy nuts and this there’s moments like this. ",
"No, that's 8 hours for commuting, eating, doing laundry, cleaning, brushing your teeth, showering, shitting, shaving, talking to the family and sleeping. \n\nBesides, no one can stay alert and concentrated for 16 hours on end.",
"> this repost\n\nthis link is also repost. I have found another link to post in that link comment section. Now this is redditception.",
"He's Irving from Mr. Robot.",
"I have been remodeling my kitchen and dining room the last couple months. It takes forever because I just do a small amount each day as I find time after work. It's been really stressing and draining me. A few days ago my son, 4 years old, gave me a big hug and a kiss and said daddy, thank you for building me a home.",
"Gooodbyeee cabbiesss",
"And the cat’s in the cradle with the silver spoon\n\nYes! We have no bananas. ",
"I've got such a raging tip right now",
"Her parents are useless, but I hope she remembers that someone in her life cares and made the effort. Even the fact that there was someone who went out of their way to try can be a candle in a dark time for a kid. ",
"Love a love sounds like a double positive dude! Sorry for being THAT guy",
"Haha love it. With all this hardcore misandry on CNN this is no joke. The op had me feeling good but this comment just made my fucking day.",
"That assumes a fair bit of knowledge of the original intent of reddit on a lot of people where many people probably don’t know that. There clearly are enough people who think Reddit is OC centric or we wouldn’t be here trying to understand why that’s the case. All in all there definitely is a separation between what Reddit is and what things like news outlets are but people don’t seem to recognise that .",
"Oh man... That would bring me to tears. The good kind",
"And if you put all the blue words together, it sounds like two of facebook's retarded chat bots attempting to talk to each other again",
"No capital H, hacking your bank now, gg kid.",
"Bitcoin was $20k a couple of weeks ago and is now around $10k. Some people make bank and some people lose money. It is an insane gamble right now and people with skin in the game will defend it to the end of the earth because people having faith in it and flocking to it is literally the only thing that is holding up their “investment”",
"Dont forget, you're here forever.",
"the world has turned me into a horrible jaded cynic; the first thought I had was \"he's deliberately hung that there so people see it and tip him more\" \n\nI need to go outside ",
"Im torn between aww and hmm so Ill settle for a hawmmm",
"/r/mensrights is leaking",
"I like this alot.",
"Makes you sound a bit simple. ",
"Nice try taxi marketing agency, still using uber",
"Maybe I am",
"So he doesn't get money to send his family? Still, *nobody* should ever have to work like that, says a lot about our society.",
"Praise be!",
"What's up mate? ",
"Drugsss",
"You sound like a friend of mine. He was the rich one in the family. His sister had a girl and he absolutely adored her and spoiled her when she visited. His sister on the otherhand was a junky, and he knew better than to give her money like she \"demanded\" so she could buy her daughter things. He died a few years ago from an aneurysm. He had a business partner who he trusted in his will to make sure his niece was taken care of. And yah, his family tried to sue his partner for money. ",
"I do take issue with people on Reddit who specifically claim something is theirs though. In general I assume things like this are reposts, but if the title said something about seeing it in New York or something that made it seem like OP took the picture, and then it turns out they didn’t, that’s where I draw my personal line.",
"Before trashing, I always took a digital photo of it. Sometime now I use one of the hundreds of photos as a desktop when he visits with his kids. He always remembers.",
"When you work much and hard, and you make 15k a year, its adorable. But if you make 200k a year its \"you only work and never got time, for us, im out!!\"",
"Reddcoin is basically what your describing",
"meanwhile hes been bangin cheap 3rd world hos nightly for the last 5 years, and doesnt have to hear his daughters awful violin practice....",
"Man, dads like that SHOULD be proud.",
"There was a bot that did that at one point actually.\n\nFrom what I heard the owner ran off with it all.",
"Aww. That’s so sweet.",
"Keep trying. Whether it's gymnastics, or just taking her to the park, or the library regularly. She'll remember that someone was there for her when other adults were letting her down. ",
"Stories like this make me angry for people who try to simplify immigration and rationalize why illegals don't belong here. I don't care because they want to be here no matter what, they work crazy hours and menial jobs just to help their families. They don't complain. ",
"Yeah, that’s explicitly lying and on top of that, given that most of this site is not original anyway, there really was no reason to be dishonest about it to begin with. ",
"I'll never forget one Christmas asking my parents if we were poor and it still breaks my heart to think about.\n\nMy friend had gotten a PS2 for Christmas and I knew it was expensive and we hadn't gotten anything near that much, so I asked them if we were poor. From what I remember, my Mum got upset and walked off and then my Dad told me off for upsetting my Mum and told me that they do the best they can for us.\n\nI now know that my parents ate baked beans on toast for dinner to be able to afford to give me and my sister a better meal most days and that money was so spread at times that my Mum had to take her handbag to the toilets at work to steal toilet paper from the stall because we couldn't afford our own.\n\nMy parents are probably very ordinary to most people, especially now that they're in a much better place, but I am really proud of them and grateful for the sacrifices and selflessness they had.\n\nEdit: First gold, wow! Think you kind stranger! :)",
"A lot of that is downtime (i.e, sleeping). ",
"Breaks my heart!!",
"Put there to get bigger tips.",
"Why is this on the front page his family just loves him",
"But what about Bort",
"Oh, man. I’ll get you a case of Kleenex.",
"Hit me right in the feels",
"Yes i agree, shallow and pedantic\n\n..../s ??",
"America. Fuck yeah.",
"This is definitely a motivation to go through day. \nI must do something similar at my desk office too !!",
"Alright u/FuckedLikeSluts",
"neat",
"Many Uber and Ola cabs drivers in India (at least in Bangalore) work continuously for 48 hours and then take a break for 1 full day. Of course, they do everything in those 48 hours except sleeping in their bed.",
"Wait a second...\n\nDoesn’t he have two other kids?",
"Ty for working so hard for our capitalist overlords that forced our world into shit",
"I think it’s “don’t forget you’re here for 8 hours a day”",
"That's a nice trick to get more tips, if you don't have kids. ",
"It would be for tips.",
"Brilliant episode. Such a heartwarming moment",
"Same here. Internet has me so fucked up in my head that the first thing that came to mind was the same. \n\nI need to go outside. (2)",
"That kid is what the world needs.",
"Looks like I gotta take my heart pills",
"Speaking from experience? ",
"Wow, I'd never actually bothered to look up the lyrics before. Damn, that's heavy.",
"Tbh, that's just how I remember it. I wouldn't go as far as to say I had \"Complete Recollection\", or anything like that! :)",
"He put feels in therr",
"May you never find yourself in the position to make the hard decision he had not only to make, but to carry out every single day since. \n\nSo easy to stand in judgement from afar.",
"When you're an English major and you didn't notice 😂",
"Do it for her",
"His wife and 20+ pets. ",
"*Why the fuck are ^my ^eyes ^wet*",
"All those ninjas cutting onions right?",
"How much did you tip?",
"After a certain amount of income, a family would probably do just fine and anything extra is just that, extra. That means, why not then just spend time with family more, as they can be probably supported with way less working hours already. It's about balancing work and life, if possible.",
"[Original post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Frisson/comments/3re1cg/image_xpost_pics_a_note_hanging_from_this_taxi/) from 2 years ago had The Simpsons upvoted to the top as well. Oh Reddit hive mind, don't ever change.\n\nFor anyone wanting to [make your own \"Do it for Her\" with this .png](http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/509/322/e45.png)\n\nI made one with my daughter",
"I've been operating on 2-5 hours of sleep a night for the last few weeks. My body is slowly getting used to it. I generally get one good 8 hours on my Sunday. \n\nAdderall probably has something to do with that though.",
"Not 1 from those 30,000 pounds?",
"Right in the feels ",
"that's adorable :)\n",
"*Plays worlds smallest violin",
"It's from his girlfriend that likes to call him daddy.",
"What type of aquarium do you use?",
"I got laid off from my job that I hate for 6 weeks. It was getting dire for my family as we live in a rural area and jobs are very hard to come by. My job called me back and told me that business had picked up and they needed me back. I work overnight and never see my seven year old son or wife. I am constantly tired. My son came up to me before he went to bed on my first night of work and said “I know you don’t like your job but thank you for going even though you don’t want to.” Needless to say, I hugged him and choked back tears. \n\nMy job sucks but I’m so damn happy that he at least sees I’m doing it for him and his mom. ",
"My kids don't remember the stuff they did last year. They visit me at the office and ask about the stuff on the walls.",
"Resi's short for Theresa in German. \n\n",
"Well I'm sure you could remember it wholesale if you put your mind to it. ",
"It was a 30minute ride so I usually give an extra $5. Not sure though. Been awhile.",
"Let’s hope this guy gets deported ",
"Them pesky onion slicing ninjas are in here again!",
"All to get more tips, pathetic country that is.",
"Right hand drive, late model, clean vehicle. Could be Australia, in which case there aren't tips.",
"X",
"Username checks out",
"Did you just respond to your own post?",
"You’re heartless!",
"There should really be a test people must pass for having kids. Too many people just shouldn’t be parents.",
"https://i.imgur.com/vPD5S87.gifv",
"How dare someone provide for their family. The nerve!",
"\"Oh Im sorry, I don't speak shithole.\" -Trump",
"May the Dictionary open...",
"Did you improve or nah, maybe it was trash. ",
"> his family tried to sue his partner for money. \n\nFor what!? That sounds like such a trashy family.",
"I mean a proper project. RDD doesn't qualify.",
"Oh thank god. I was worried he was just tired",
"Plenty of non-illegals do the same thing and can’t find a job.",
"a man has to make a living.",
"Or perhaps every time she sees, hears, or picks up a violin for the rest of her life, it will remind her of her father's love.",
"i really hope that its actually real, playing With emotions do Equal more inncome tho, a good technique",
"For tips! I put a bible over my drivers insurance and such for when I get pulled over in South Carolina. .works like a charm. ",
"Damn dude. 7 am, first post I looked at on reddit this morning. And now I'm tearing up on the john.",
"I such cynic my first thought was, \"Does he really think that will keep him from getting shot.\"",
"https://tipstershub.com/user/678-raimis Logan Paul is in the woods again :D",
"Says a lot more about his society than ours. ",
"Talk about motivation.",
"That's really the only thing holding up any currency. Also; it was 20k because of a spike in the price. The market will always and has always corrected itself after big price spikes. The crypto market we just see the magnitude of these ebbs and flows scaled up, which is very scary and very volatile.\n\nHowever that price drop doesn't mean that the crypto-market is dying. The Gross Market Cap is increasing every day, and I believe is floating around 58B right now. There is a large amount of people shifting out of BTC (because of many reasons) and cheaper projects like ETH, and the MANY altcoins.\n\nWould I recommend someone use it as their retirement? No. Would I recommend to someone crypto trading over buying a lottery ticket or gambling? Yes.\n",
"Wait, why are you getting paid by Thai Ladyboys?",
"As a father waiting to clock in this makes me teary eyed",
"because i'm worth it.",
"When someone dies their family assumes they will leave them their vast fortune. You know so they can blow it on parties and smack. So they sue when a family member doesnt give them what they want in their will. ",
"Your body isn't getting used to it. It just stopped firing the \"I need sleep to prevent lasting damage\" warning messages because they changed nothing.",
"Good way to get more tips",
"Hope you left a good tip.",
"Damn that sucks. I'm glad he found someone he trusted to take care of his niece, so sad his family tried to sue him for it",
"Why not just ask for a photo, maybe even with him in it?\n\nWhat's the deal with the sneaky semi-crotch shot instead ",
"Onions, onions everywhere ",
"I've seen pay it forward used as a means of karma, no pun intended. For example, at my basketball league I dropped a 20 and someone picked it up for me and I said something along the lines of : \"ahh I'm so dumb. Some people would have kept it, thanks bro!\" And he said something along the lines of : \" nah man! Pay it forward\" . Just because Reddit gold doesn't have any monetary value doesn't mean people won't see it as a good deed and do something good for another person. Just my two cents. ",
"So true, definitely true.\nYou will help her build up self confidence and resilience. ",
"BOOM, ROASTED",
"A friend of mine went to Thailand and got addicted to some meth type drug they called “jockey” and the ladyboys would always make this weird signal with their hands like two fingers waking on the palm of their other hand when they said it. I think it was just crushed up meth pills. Some things never leave you. ",
">talking to the family\n\nSeems to me most of them are on the phone with their family via headset ALL THE TIME.",
"Homer also strangles his children",
"Thanks. It started a trend for motivational passwords. Feel better, get promoted,...you get the idea. I'm a fan of positive affirmations and having to frequently type them out is a good way to do them.\n\nI've got Windows Hello set up on my work computer, unfortunately my face isn't that inspirational.",
"tips plz",
"It could also be the UK, in which the same applies. Well, people might say keep the change, but additional money is uncommon.",
"You're trying *way* too hard, sweetheart. ",
"You probably can't keep this up, trust me, try to get back on track. I spent the last 1.5 months of last semester like this, with the last 3 weeks pulling an all nigher every 1-2 days for the most part. Didn't realize how shit I was feeling until I woke up the day after the last final, still don't feel fully recovered and that was a month ago. That adderall energy is coming from somewhere.",
"This is so sexist. Women can do the same job! Men are Trump. \n #MenAreTrump",
"We see this post and think it's all cute and touching... but as someone who's grown very very distant from my dad because for all my life he drove 16+ hours a day in a taxi just so he could provide (and he did provide very well), this shit infuriates me. \n \nHe's become more mentally unstable because of the long hours and it's impossible to communicate with him because of him extensively being socially isolated. \n \nI'm grateful but I wish I had a childhood where my dad could be there while providing, he shouldn't have to choose between being there for his kids or providing for their future. The madness of this system and our society. \n\nEDIT: I'm grateful for my dad sacrificing a lot to provide for us, without his sacrifices I wouldn't have the exposure, the opportunities or even the knowledge of Reddit. But I'm not grateful that my time with him was part of those sacrifices. I understand that it was necessary and it's even common, but it shouldn't be. ",
"Don't forget, you're here forever.",
"I got as far as \"Lamb lollipops with duck ravioli and bacon Brussel sprouts\"",
"- - - Praising intensifies - - - ",
"😭",
"Don't forget, you're here forever ",
"Who's problem is that? I have yet to see a white dude trying to hustle a landscape job just to send a little cash back home. Get the fuck out of here with that nonsense. I've seen maybe two white boy dishwashers in my 10+ year career and try sure as shit not lining up for the position. So remind me why you're so triggered?",
" I'm from India and that sounds terrible.",
"Oh yeah I get it man;\n\nI work at 5:00 AM Sun-Wed, and have to leave my house by 4:20AM to get there on time. I have a hard time sleeping and generally don't get to be until like 1-2 which is killing me. I usually take a nap over lunch.\n\nMy weekends lately have been a bit better however in an attempt to 'tire' myself out I stayed up one of my nights until 5:00 AM, and had my girlfriend wake me up at 9:00 AM. No adderall or anything, still stayed up until 3 or 4 the next night.",
"Wow amazing... This note explains so much in itself.. I love my daddy a lot though I never told him this.. But still he is the best man in my life.. He is the one who matters the most to me.. He takes care of all my needs... He is my hero.. And will always be.. He never let me know how hard he is working to make our wishes come true.. Daddy's are gem and so mine... 💖",
">I’m grateful \n\n\nYou don’t sound it.",
"Crypto trading at this point is seriously gambling though. That’s about all it is. Let’s focus on Bitcoin though since the other cryptos might actually have a use down the road. Bitcoin’s entire premise was that it would one day be the end all be all currency, a decentralized currency that would take over the world. At first, people invested in that idea. They understood how it worked, generally, and had faith in it. Sure, it was a gamble then, but it was a gamble on whether or not it would eventually take off. Now, most everyone throwing money at it are simply doing so because they hear of other people making money. They have almost no idea what it is they are gambling on, and frankly, right now they are only gambling on being able to pull their money out after it rises a lot, but before it crashes. It will only be around until a run on the market happens. The fall from $20k to $10k isn’t the end of the market but it demonstrates just how dangerous it is. The value of Bitcoin could actually fall to nothing over the course of a day. That is fucking insane. You really have to look at it from a detached perspective to see the mechanisms for how and why this could happen though. People that are invested in it have a fundamental need to believe that it cannot come crumbling down, and therefor won’t see it. All you have to do is take one look at the Bitcoin subreddit to see how dangerous the entire mentality around investing in it actually is. It’s a pump and dump scheme on a massive scale, one where the people pumping aren’t even aware of what is going on. At least, that’s my read on it.\n\nBut of course it’s not crazy to buy some in the hopes that it will one day be a worldwide currency. $10 now *could* be worth $100,000 in the future. The crazy thing is people who have Bitcoin investment as any significant part of their portfolio, which is what you see a lot in the communities like r/Bitcoin.",
"I imagine a will would be a legally binding document, no?\n\nI admit, I know very little of inheritance law. ",
"Is this supposed to be touching? Im just sad. Children shouldn't know how hard you work for them. Its like buying an expensive car and complain about the monthly payments. If you wanted it you know what it costs. \n\nThis to me says dad is never home. Or when he is home he's tired and the little girl and daddy don't have the happiest of relationships so she cries to mom asking why dad doesn't like her and is told that he loves her he just works really hard to keep dinner on the table. \n\nOr something",
"Finally a wholesome non-political post",
"oh my, seriously, fuck people who repost like this",
"I think it said \"Don't forget that if you or a loved one has been diagnosed with Mesothelioma you may to be entitled to financial compensation. Mesothelioma is a rare cancer linked to asbestos exposure. Exposure to asbestos in the Navy, shipyards, mills, heating, construction or the automotive industries may put you at risk. Please don’t wait, call 1-800-99 LAW USA today for a free legal consultation and financial information packet. Mesothelioma patients call now! 1-800-99 LAW USA\"",
"Dem feels",
"That is so sad. Please don‘t give up on her.",
"Cunt is fishing for tips in a horribly cynical fashion ",
"Plot twist, he is a sugar-daddy! ",
"When downvotes start coming, stay strong in knowledge that you just mistook a comment chain.",
"Isnt trust fund for situation like these?",
"Plot Twist:hes a Sugar Daddy.",
"What about bird law?",
"you better give him a fat tip ",
"Because I’m a “white boy” dishwasher ya racist fuck.",
"You're right, it's not lying. It's just that, like /u/rsaahhuul0 said, most photos like this found on reddit are normally made by the OP, and not mentioning it always seems kinda dishonest. The original OP of this post was probably touched by this since he interacted with the actual cabbie, but the OP of this post presumably made it with the intention of getting karma and possibly a believable post history. \n\nLet me elaborate on that last part; recently, a lot of accounts started trying to create believable account histories by reposting both posts and comments. Those accounts are then presumably sold and used to sway the conversation, either for monetary gain or with political intentions. Interestingly, OP's account has remained mostly dormant until 10 days ago, despite being over a year old. This might not be such an account, but it could very well be\n\nOr I might just be seeing things that aren't there, but the recent influx of such \"fake\" accounts has made me wary of stuff like that.",
"I tried to get my daughter into gymnastics, but she'd have none of it. Now my sweet little angel is learning taekwondo so she can beat up the boys when they are sparring. She's not quite a child prodigy, but she can hold her own against bigger kids.",
"Aww, that's really sad. My brother pays for my son to play footy, I'm so damn grateful he helps out. Not so happy when i have to wake up early every weekend and stand in the freezing cold watching a game i hate. Haha! But my so loves it and sport is great for kids. ",
"I instantly want to hand him some extra money",
"It is if its done by/with an attorney and notarized.",
"> Besides, no one can stay alert and concentrated for 16 hours on end.\n\n\nThat’s what meth is for.",
"God damn it, every time and chance.",
"I could play devils advocate and say that is strategically placed for more tips. :-(",
"It was trash! And i just stopped trying eventually ",
"As someone that's still learning English, a lot and alot confused me a lot.",
"Always wondered how many of these cases end up with the family recieving some sort of payout.\n\nWould have thought a will is pretty cut and dry. ",
"For me, it'd be just the tip.",
"Why do you think the taxi driver deserves a tip?",
"Was that top hammer or down the hole?",
"Pedo uncle that wants to take niece to gymnastics class... profiled.",
"Maybe the taxi driver is being crafty and using it to get bigger tips. ",
"When I went to Mexico 7 out of 7 taxis had something like this. The conversation with each driver was always the same: they hand you pictures of their family and talk about them. While I really want to believe their love for their family, the repetitiveness of it caused a brow to be raised. I hope this guy is sincere!",
"BEGONE THOT",
"Wouldn't he make more money driving a taxi in the States though?",
"It's really a love-hate relationship. All in all my dad is a great dad whose only way of showing love and care is by providing, he has great work ethics, he is strong, stubborn and dedicated, which I've learnt a lot from. I know a lot of people don't even know their dads so I really am grateful for what he's done. \nBut his job (because he needs to provide) has also made him more prone to being ill-tempered and explosive and at times abusive around the household, with really misogynistic or weird hard-to-resonate with world views. \nSo, 'it's complicated'? ",
"I invested in so much Reddit gold. Should be able to retire pretty soon. Where do I check on the current value of Reddit gold? ",
"Who started cutting onions??",
"So in our society you need to work 16 hours a day to provide a living wage for a family in a shithole country if you aren't lucky to get one of them \"good\" jobs. ",
"Now give me those tips",
"Just try to remember that “alot” is not a word. It’s always “a lot”.",
"Yet, a lot of parents in the US work so much overtime to provide more and more. They don't even have to. Less family time. Idk. Fuck this society of greed. ",
"This actually sounds like my grandmother’s story. Her father didn’t think girls should drive let alone become professionals. Luckily, she had a very supportive uncle who not only taught her to drive behind her father’s back but also ultimately helped her attend law school and become a lawyer.\n\nSo keep it up, she needs someone like you.",
"This is not supposed to be on freaking social media! Get a life, freaking zombie. ",
"He is one of the most happiest and luckiest man in the world",
"I do understand where you are coming from. It's a big reason none of my investments are still in BTC.\n",
"As a child I wrote it as 'alot' and I don't know why, does anyone know why/where this is a thing?",
"Repost",
"Lol\n",
"I haven't really met any taxi drivers who came across as decent human beings, so I'm really surprised to see one whose kids don't hate him.",
"Aww. Sadly i can relate. I once made matching bracelets for my parents and they did thank me for them but they eventually got tired of having it sit on the fridge - time for the trash",
"Yeah, but he got the job back (and the sign there) because of Maggie.",
"Same! My dad loves me a lot too. But never kept or acknowledged all the handmade birthday cards and father day cards I made him for years. ",
"Sending money to America instead of other countries is the opposite of what I usually see on Reddit.",
"Depending on how old you were when you made the comment, that wasn't really your fault. Children will often bluntly ask questions like that because they genuinely don't understand how hurtful it could be. But obviously, good on your parents for being selfless and making sacrifices for you, and good on you for appreciating them!",
"Appreciation, it's unbelievable how important it is to most of us and how little, people actually think about it or do it.",
"How is it safe to drive for 48 hours straight? And why is that schedule better than doing breaks more often, even if they are shorter? I don't understand.",
"What a caring kid. She/He cares for his hard work.",
"Your parents are awesome. How are they doing now?\n\nHearing these stories from around the world has really been an awesome experience for me on Reddit. It reveals how much alike mankind is everywhere on earth. ",
"It's for higher tip money.",
"'I didn't know you had a second family'",
"Watch the episode, it's beautiful",
"Seems like nobody replied to your story but just wanted to let you I liked it and it sounds like your parents were great people. My parents did the same except they’d eat tortillas and beans most days so me and my sister could eat something decent growing up. ",
"Cab drivers that tend to make money live in cities. Cities are more expensive than the rest of the country to live in. They have to pay for their cab license, insurance, and car which in NYC can be $2,000 per month alone. \n\nAn apartment in the shittiest part of NYC can be as low as $600 a month if you’re living in Brownsville. You still need to pay for utilities. On top of that, sending money for a family home? \n\nYeah sure. You can absolutely function in society just as yourself but probably not sending money to a family home. ",
"I’m not from India and that sounds terrible.",
"\"what happened to the fifth one?\" lmao",
"This is a really great idea. My son is two and I already have so many useless art projects and know I'll have to start throwing some out. Awesome job!",
"sonder",
"It's the most common thing for Asian kids going to school in the States. Dad stays, kids go with either their mom or stay with their extended family.",
"Real talk though, stealing toilet paper from work is a great idea. The building pays for it, not my work, so I could stock up on dozens of one ply rolls and double up to make two ply. Your mother is crafty.",
"What's wrong with work? I could use a few 60 to 80 hour weeks to get ahead of bills.",
"That doesn't sound realistic",
"I love you as well, friend. \nI'd value you making me something like that. \n",
"Tip hustling, he has no daughter ",
"I remember being on the bus in the 4th grade, on the way to school the first day after Christmas break. All the kids were talking about their gifts and I recall imagining just what a PlayStation actually is and if it was a jungle gym maybe? It's all they were talking about. Someone asked what I got and I proudly announced I got a razor scooter! I was pumped. I remember clearly, 17 years later, the response I got: \"and what else?\". It took me a few more moments and and then I was like oh... damn.",
"And that's how you lure them in for that extra tip! ",
"[This post is over 2 years old](https://www.reddit.com/r/Frisson/comments/3re1cg/image_xpost_pics_a_note_hanging_from_this_taxi/)",
"Aren't there regulations against working that much?",
"Very likely that the direction facing the customer would be roughly the same as the driver. Maybe he hung it there for himself. \n\nNot everything has to be a ploy to milk tips, people can have sentimental connections to such things as well. \n\nJust putting it out there. ",
"Probably made the business partner the trustee of a trust until the niece reaches a certain age. That way someone not shitty is watching the money.",
"You can not *Resi*st cuteness of that magnitude...",
"The parents likely didn’t want ‘you’ helping, be it pride or pure stubborness. ",
"That's the problem right there, you shouldn't need to work 80 hour weeks to pay your bills, 40 hours should be, and could be with decent policy, sufficient to live off of. I mean 40 hours is still a lot for me but 80 hours is i-want-to-fucking-kill-myself kind of hours.",
"Well, you're a good person. ",
"Yeah, except he never cared about doing his actual job",
"That's why if you have any family you explicitly want to leave out or deny inheritance money you write in your will that you don't like them and they get nothing etc\n\nThat way they can't sue and be like \"Well he clearly forgot about his poor loving daughter!\"",
"This is a tactic to get you to feel sorry for them and give them a bigger tip. WAKE UP!",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/Frisson/comments/3re1cg/image_xpost_pics_a_note_hanging_from_this_taxi/\n\nLol",
"It's mainly because of the way it's said, there isn't an audible gap between the two words so it sounds like it's just one word.",
"And while alot is not a word, allot is.\n\n",
"100% with ya there. Someone showing that they care enough to even TRY will leave a lasting impact with a child for life, especially if few others do. I know it would have made a world of difference in my own life.",
"Air's a bit dusty today. What's the matter with the wind? Damn inconsiderate neighbours, slicing onions. ",
"Charlie from iasip wrote it",
"I have no idea how that statement is relevant. You defended yourself into an irrelevant corner.\n",
"It's called Tip-bait.\n\nAt least that's what an old-timer cabbie told me in the early 80's that they all called things like that and pictures of their kids.\n\n",
"wish i could know a way to show that feeling toward my dad as an adult :/",
"This society is fucked up. Bless your parents, the years of stress and sacrifice they went through for you.",
"Sounds plausible ",
"It’s so stupid it must be right",
"Many a time, the drivers do not own the cars. They are owned by some guy who is rich enough to buy one (or many) as an investment. The drivers then need to work with that owner to get their turn to drive the cabs. So, the longer they are on the road, more money they make. Because, when they hand over the car, they may get it back after a day or not. \n\nHow safe is it? It is alright to an extent because the speeds aren't all that high in the cities. Gets a bit risky on the long, wide and straight roads such as the one to the airport. Not the best situation obviously. Once I had a driver pick me at the airport to drive me home. Fellow was tired and I could see that. Had him stop at an exit and wash his face and started again. \n",
"Make him something. Send him a handmade card that just says you love him. Fuck it. What’s the worst that could happen?",
"So sweet",
"Most likely naps between customers",
"And I seen them finger paintings she brings home and they Suuuuck.",
"But surly you could keep the most recent stuff, and discreetly throw away the older stuff. That way the kid will always feel like you value it",
"IANAL but wills are contested all the time for a plethora of reasons including but not limited to the capacity of the testator (the dead person) when signing to not completing a duty to take care of your family with the inheritance to having a witness sign when they are a beneficiary and all sorts of other things.\n\nJust because the will was done and signed by a lawyer/notary does not ensure the validity of the will, as you can't ensure that all lawyers and notaries are good ones that will do their due diligence. That said, its always preferable to have a will and one done up by a professional as opposed to those will kits that can easily be torn apart in a court of law from my understanding. ",
"Don't forget, you're here forever.",
"\\\\[T]/",
"Get outta dem dere ya bodder yer fodder. ",
"No reason 'alot' can't be a thing. Language evolves. I think I'll start misspelling it on purpose from now on. I'll have a lot of alots. \n\nEspecially because a lot is where you park your car. \n\n(200 upvotes. Christ, you guys are *rock hard* for recognizing common spelling mistakes). ",
"I didn't mean to say they driving continuously for 48 hours. They are on duty. Especially the ones who do airport pickups and drops. Once they drop someone at the airport, they go into a taxi queue. This can be quite long and they have to wait a few hours for their turn. During that time, they eat, rest, etc. While they do rest, it is not the most optimal way of resting, right?",
"While it's probably not healthy, it's certainly possible. i have insomnia and when i was still in school i did 35 hour days for a few years, i felt much better than having no sleep rhythm whatsoever.",
"Translation:\n\nPlease don't kill me, please don't kill me, please don't kill me, please don't kill me.",
"Working hard? As an African miner? Those kids should try working for a day and a half making iPhones at FOXCON.",
"\\[T]/",
"Sure.",
"\\\\[†]/",
"i do my best but he's an emotionally distant person and I always feel his efforts aren't fully appreciated :/",
"Really hope this doesn’t get buried, but this exactly reminds me of a great song called “Men Who Drive Me Places”, about the lives of the drivers the artist encountered. \n\nhttps://youtu.be/npEfe_2B9Nk\n",
"55 is old?",
"man, telling your kids off for upsetting you about being poor is a dick move regardless of their well meaning intentions. That's not cool at all",
"'Resi' doesn't exist, it's a ploy to get you to tip more. Refuse to pay him at all for having the audacity to try it.",
"When I was about 8, I sloppily cut a piece of chip board with a hand saw and used a dremel rotary tool to burn a pretty intricate border into it and then used the same method to write, \"BEST DAD EVER\" \n\nHe'd kept it in the garage for a while, but then I didn't see it anymore, and then after we moved, I guess I always figured he'd gotten rid of it. About a year ago, on my way to work, I stopped to see him at work to talk to him about something, as we work probably about half mile apart. When walked into his office, the little wooden plaque that I made was sitting right there on proud display on a shelf in his office. I'm not sure how I never noticed it before because I've gone to see him at work tons of times, but he said he'd had it in his office for at least 15 years, and that it was one of his favorite gifts from me. I made that almost 20 years ago. He kept that dumb piece of wood for all this time because I made it.\n\nMy father is not an emotional man, but he always makes sure we know he loves us.",
"At the end of the day the only reason I show up to work is to support my family.\n\n",
"Your father sounds like a rlly good person. Make sure you show him that you appreciate his hard work. ",
"It’s not governed by reason in this country",
"I used to do that. But it was mostly because they had quad ply in the staff toilets. I'm not buying that, but I'll fucking well have it for free.",
"\"YOU COULD ACT LIKE A MAN!\"",
"Well he's disabled now, so now I look after him. ",
"Fuck immigration laws that restrict productive, honest, peaceful people.",
"It is but it's not really \"protected\" from lawsuit. To ensure your assets go where you want them to, is to set up a Trust. Then you create smaller trusts to divide your assets into & name the beneficiaries as the Trustee. My parents are doing this & I'm helping them. There are 5 of us kids so their dividing their assets among is equally. Upon the death of the 2nd parent, the assets are automatically released into 5 different Trusts. Their children will be named the Trustee of their own trust so they can easily access it whenever they want but since a Trust is its own entity, it's protected from probate court, lawsuits, divorce, etc. Even if I get sued 10 years after the Trust is under my control, the other person cannot get anything from my trust. When I die I will make my husband Trustee which I can change later then, since we don't have kids, what's left of my Trust will be divided between my nieces and nephews.",
"he was talking about the parents in your story",
"I have learned some lesson from the little (maybe) kids note. I realized how hard life is.",
"I can only guess why it started, when people say the words they have a tendency to say them quickly without any space in between. But I think it's so pervasive because it is never corrected. It will never be corrected in speech or course but I was never corrected for it on paper until middle school and not by a teacher but my mom. \n\nI think there is something terribly wrong with the teaching of English in public schools in America. Maybe this isn't everywhere but if you're in a required English class every year you ought to be able to write using proper grammar. This is not the case. I learned more in Spanish about English grammar throughout middle and high school than in any English class I took. One of my best decisions was dual enrolling English in my junior and sophomore year, I learned so much more. Sorry about the rant, this is just something that really pisses me off. ",
"Every once in awhile its nice, but when its forced on you it sucks. My job has mandatory overtime and I did 13 weeks strait of 60 hr weeks. Not only that I have a minimum of an hr commute one way (sometimes longer).\n\nI did the math and I worked my whole summer away like an asshole, didnt get any personal time or couldnt get anything done around my house, for a lousy extra 4200$. Fuck that shit",
"LIQUID!!!",
"Jokes on you. \n\nHe wrote that himself to get better tips. ",
"My bother would do stuff like this when worked as a waiter. He would flash pictures of children in order to get sympathy tips or put a kids picture in the check presenter. But being a single gay guy he did not have any children.",
"Honestly, on your days off, itll be better to take naps all day. Dont think about the \"damn if i nap now i wont sleep later\" aspect. We are adults, not kids with infinite energy. We need to stockpile that shit. Taking 2 hour naps through out the day is the best feelung on a day off. Just eating something, watchung tv very comfty and boom you get drowsy because youvr worked so hard for the past few days and are actually relaxed. The trick is staying up once you wake up from a nap though. Like as soon as your eyes open just get up. If youre still tired after an hour nap again. Your body will love you",
"Drunk parent here. Bahhhhh :'(",
"How will she turn self confidence and resilience into reddit karma, though?",
"This will probably get buried, but my Dad was a taxi driver for awhile and made friend with a Pakistani driver. For over 10 years, he worked his ass off so he could send money back to Pakistan. He would sleep in a rundown motel that gave him a great rate ($30/week) in order to save money. Eventually, during he slow time and for a couple months a year, he would return to Pakistan to see his wife and daughter. His end goal was to eventually get his family to come to the United States so they can start their life again here. After working 60+ hour weeks and hardly stopping, he finally got his family over here. Unfortunately, the Pakistani taxi driver ended up dying of a heart attack one week after his family arrived.",
"keep trying",
"Reminds me of when my friend and I took a cab after a party (around 2am). The driver said he hadnt slept for more than 24 hours but it was fine cause he used to stay awake for 2 days straight in the army. At that point my mate and I are looking at each other and laughing nervously. Then the guy told he worked in tbe kitchen in the army so when some guy made fun of him for cooking he smashed him with a pan on the head and was arrested. Unfortunately our journey ended and we couldn't hear more \"reassuring\" stories",
"\\`[T] /",
"Nooo my arm",
"My parents spit when I was in my early 20's (at least fifteen years after they should have). Both of them basically abandoned the family home I grew up in. One day I got the call that the house was being sold and everything left in it trashed. When I went to claim furniture and stuff, left inside were all the mothers and fathers day crafts and presents I had made for my parents over the years. All carted off to the landfill.\n\nI know them feels, just got them all at once.",
"On another point of view, you could look like the super creepy uncle",
"Such a sweet child ",
"That's parental love; the \"No, you finish it, I'm not hungry.\"",
"I used to do the same except i asked for the computer password",
"Still better than political posts",
"It was hard when I found out my kid had a second family too",
"Do it for her.",
"And who pays for the building?",
"What state / city",
"Pls explain. ",
"Quad ply? Who did you work for that can afford that level of decadence and luxury???",
"I would take trashbags and paper towels from my college job, so the tiny trashcan in my apartment would just be dwarfed by a huge trashbag meant for an industrial trashcan.\n\n(Also my boss said it was ok btw)",
"Four ply!!!! Rich!",
"That’s some tip bait",
"My cousin is 1 of 3 kids. Her parents died, split inheritance 3 ways. Well one sibling (bat shit insane) didn't collect for almost 10 years. Then he decides he wants his share. Cool it's been sitting in an account. Well then this sibling starts accusing the other siblings of not giving him an equal share, and stealing from his inheritance, which was impossible as it was heavily monitored and held in an account by the estate lawyers. So this sibling sues parents estate and other siblings. Wastes inheritance on legal fees, loses and the other siblings ended having to go out of pocket to settle their own legal fees defending themselves.\n\nFamilies are crazy. People are crazy. This dude was intentionally included in the will and fucked with everyone.",
"Like this",
"OK, assuming the wife is working. What benefit does he have to stay there, what country is it more profitable to send your money to the US? ",
"You alright dude?",
"One of my childhood memories was waiting for an uncle to show up one afternoon, when I was between the ages of 10-12 I'd guess, to take me to play mini-golf. I can remember sitting inside my home looking at the driveway waiting for him. And I just kept waiting and the excitement kept building, and I kept waiting. It was fall, the sun was setting around 6-7 ish here, and it started to become dusk, but that was okay because surely they had lights there to keep going after dark. Well dusk turns to evening, and that excitement I had started to fade to disappointment. That is the first time I can recall having been truely disappointed in someone. I'm in my late 20's now and I can still feel the sadness that I felt that day and I don't ever want someone I love to experience those events.\n\nTL;DR\nKeep trying to make a difference in that child's life no matter how difficult it is. You never know what's going to stick with them for the rest of their life.",
"That's awesome! Even if you can't do that anymore, just be there for her over the next few years, even if it's just to talk sometimes and let her know you support & believe in her. One teacher I had that did this was so critical to me in my life, having negligible parents can really destroy a kids self esteem. Also if you can't spend money on the lessons, maybe try a small college fund (even just a bit for books, that only she can touch later on). ",
"I work in an office so the provisions would be paid for by bullring management which I assume would come from the rent of like 30 companies who work in my bullring.",
"I don't understand how people can be this selfless, it's beautiful. I don't have kids but when I do I hope I'm even half as selfless as this man.",
"I had the same problem until I found this gem\n\nhttp://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.be/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html?m=1",
"Sounds easily enforceable, because nobody will ever have sex without taking that test first. Or are you saying if you get pregnant and don't pass the test an abortion will be forced on you so you can't be a parent? Or your child will be forcibly taken from you after birth? People would definitely agree to that, no objections.",
"“And thank you for wearing an aqua coloured sweater underneath a short sleeve shirt. You are a fashion icon.”",
"It is in countries that has inadequate health care.",
"I have a sticky note on my monitor that says: love you Daddy!\n\nMy daughter wrote that on a pad of yellow sticky notes on a take your kid to work day. That was 7 years ago and the sticky note has followed me to other jobs. I’ll never get rid of it, it keeps me motivated. ",
"Thought was in r/aww <3",
"Daddy, who did that piece of shit drawing on your wall?\n\nYou did son.",
"Plot twist. It’s from his 45 year old male lover. ",
"“Sorry driver but I think some sand just blew into my eyes”",
"I hope you at the very least told the man he was doing right by his family for that. For some people being separated from their/a loved one is really hard, but it seems like the guy is doing what he’s gotta do ",
"When my daughter (now 9) first started writing, she made me a card (which opened 'backward') on orange construction paper which simply read, \"to daddy work is fun love lucy\". That was hanging on my desk for years at work.",
"Same happened with me when I saw my first salary slip's photo copy on my dad's work desk .",
"Unless they are decent parents, and either thought it strange, or the niece felt uncomfortable, with how much effort her weird uncle was exerting to get her into gymnastics.\n\nNot being home when he showed up sounds like purposeful avoidance. ",
"How do you figure?",
"Yeah I mean I once asked my grandma if she had flat breasts cuz she was out of milk. Good job, me. ",
"It was 1 hour ago, so I don't think he was that much younger than he is now! /s",
"What the hell, a razor scooter is an awesome gift",
"Tim, but we all hate that guy so its ok",
"Funny story, I asked my mum if we were rich because she used to always dress so well. She dressed well for her job, but as a child I couldn’t tell. It wasn’t until I was much older I realised we were scraping by. Now things are much better and I’m glad I grew up struggling because my respect for money and saving it, not wasting it on silly things like my friends had made it so I’m doing very well now. Wouldn’t change a thing looking back :) ",
"And young kids have a hard time understanding sarcasm at that age so you know he means it whole heartedly. Good on you, sir. ",
"What does this have to do with r/mensrights ? \n\n",
"The goal of every parent is to give their child a better life than they had. \n\nThat is why good people do whatever they can to leave their troubled country to come here. \n\nWhen we close our borders we are denying children the chance at a better life. \n\nI also don’t want to hear any bullshit about keeping this country great for our own children, because immigrants have always improved this place in the long run. Understanding things like this is why we teach history in schools. ",
"Right in the feels",
"So if you're the only one taking TP, sure, the left is spread out, but more people means more people stealing in average, and driving up the cost for your employer.",
"Plot twist, he has no kids....",
"That’s awesome. Thanks for posting that.",
"Dick, you can't expect a kid to appreciate all that. You know your father is away a lot and unpleasant when he is around.\n\nIt takes years to work out all that shit as an adult.",
"\"Good lord who wrote this abomination and called it code?\"\n\n*checks commit history*\n\nOh...I did",
"love is not good \n",
"Holy shit, this is wonderful",
"DO~~N~~'T FOR~~GET YOU'RE~~ HER~~E FOREVER~~",
"I'm sure this provides way better motivation than corporate trainings. ",
"That's nice!",
">but I am really proud of them and grateful for the sacrifices and selflessness they had.\n\nI dont get this at all.\n\nYou do understand that having kids is inherently selfish, right? and they are both legally and ethically obligated to care for their kids? the kid had no choice in being born, but the parents did. so its on them to provide a good life for the kid, and if they cant they shouldnt have kids or give them up for adoption.\n\nWhat the fuck is there to be grateful about? ",
"Don’t take her to gymnastics. People don’t know this but gymnastics is bad for your spine. This is a high intensity impact sport and if done regularly can damage the discs of one’s spine: ie. herniated and degenerative discs.",
">Bless your parents, the years of stress and sacrifice they went through for you.\n\nthey chose to do this. theres nothing good about this story",
"DO~~N~~'T FOR~~GET YOU'RE~~ HER~~E FOREVER~~",
"That is amazing. ",
"My dad did the same so I stopped making them for him. Tbh my dad was a terrible person tho ",
"I used to steal toilet paper from my college. They had extras in every stall so I'd just grab one when I ran out at home.",
"You’re forgetting that cats don’t obey the laws of physics. ",
"Oh man, right in the feels. Hope you gave him a nice tip ",
"I don't understand how poor people have kids. You really want to ruin more people's lives as well?",
"Lidl, some of the expensive shit tickets would \"come in damaged\" so it would be written off and stuck in the shitters. Then into my bag and taken home.",
"I think I am too cynical too as my thought it was just a play to get bigger tips.",
"Omg feels n tears ",
"This thread hurts me, I fuck up so much in life and I hate disappointing my dad who is a single parent now and I feel like I'm just going to keep letting him down for the rest of my life and the thought of that makes me want to cry. I always feel like I'm fucking something up. I'm worried hes just learning to accept I won't/can't live up to his expectations as he has slowly asked less and less of me over time and got less and less upset about things. I'm scared. \n\nEdit: Thank you for your responses are am super grateful, even if they can only do so much since my situation is so fucky and I'm depressed. ",
"What do you think they should have done otherwise?",
"What the heck do her parents do, just watch TV and ignore her? Makes me sad😞😞",
"Then change what you are doing and make him proud. He doesn't expect perfection. ",
"I’m aware, my father was similar and abusive as well. However, since becoming an adult and making my own way in life I appreciate the hours he worked to provide what he did for us and I especially have sympathy for him since he’s the go-to guy for any DIY problems in the family so he doesn’t really get a break. \n\nNow grow up and stop slinging abuse at people. ",
"Like others have said. Don’t stop. Knowing someone believes in you makes a huge difference. ",
"Meanwhile the guy is working hard for the money the wife is getting ravaged by some random dude. The ultimate cuckold, i feel sorry for him.",
"Oh man, this is awesome. I'm sitting here like in a totally mind blow moment. Like, I never knew how to put that idea into words.",
"Former taxi driver. It's a rough life.",
"So at the very least they have poor communication skills seeing as they can't even have a conversation with the uncle discussing their concerns. ",
"I thought it said “so hunt for us”. Made it sound like a plot point to some movie thriller ",
"It's an Always Sunny in Philadelphia reference. Here's a scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcderLXiwa8",
"Fishing for that tip ",
"ITT: people sharing their own (probably fake) personal stories for internet points. \n\nThe top comments to a majority of posts are someone else' personal experience. \nReddit is a hive of narcissists ",
"Different in jurisdictions that have Testator’s Family Maintenance legislation such as New Zealand, Australia, Nova Scotia. There a spouse or children can ask a Court to make an order for their provision out of a Will if someone dies without leaving them anything. ",
"/r/mademesmile",
"Is it normal if I dont' understand this and I'm 25? I can't imagine another human being well, being my everything. I can barely handle loving myself. ",
"He's always been a moron. The difference is he had substance back then and was a loving and lovable moron.",
"When i was 4 i told my mom santa didnt get me the exact spider man toy i wanted a\nI hate to think about it makes me wanna slap myself",
"That hits home. I never wanted at Christmas not because we were rich but rather because my folks did everything possible to give me the illusion that everything was fine.\n\nWhat finally hit home for me was when I found some letters my mom had written to this company when I was little. See, they hardly had a pot to piss in. They decided to try vinyl repair. What was a brief summer vacation with my grandmother for a week (where they had provided her with little plastic toys to give me each day as a little present to keep me occupied and have something to look forward to) was actually a week's worth of training at this vinyl repair place in Texas for them. They picked me up after that trip and we headed home where they would run their new vinyl repair empire.\n\nExcept it didn't work. My dad spent more time refixing his failed attempted repairs than on new business. \n\nI later, after they'd passed away, found their correspondence with the vinyl repair company. Full of hope and dreams at first, later full of pleas for help, then frustration and desperation as it became more clear that the product was just not good enough. And they'd put almost everything they had in this venture, and then ended up losing it all and then some.\n\nThrough all this, did I know? Nope. I still played sports with all the equipment that entailed. I got birthday presents, Christmas presents. I had a regular childhood.\n\nThey eventually climbed out through hard work. My dad finally got regular work in the pump shop of the naval air station. My mom moved up through the ranks of secretaries until she was the head secretary of the main guy at the Westinghouse plant. They put me through college, bought much of my first furniture when I graduated, and helped in so many ways. They always wanted me to have a better life than them and I do, and I'm trying to do the same for my daughter.\n\nBut I still think of those letters and know where they came from.",
"Often times the drivers are dependent upon Amphetamines to stay awake for these long shifts. It’s a shame that they ultimately have to resort to drugs to provide for their families. \n\nSource: National Geographic’s Drugs Inc.",
"Enjoying all those downvotes are ya?",
"Because you don't say \"a lot\" when speaking. In casual speach it comes out as \"alot\" and most people hear it as such. The spelling rule is just an example of English being English and not changing spellings to match current pronunciation and here we are!",
"I didn't see any indication that this was more likely to be an uncle over an aunt. \n\nHowever, if the parents feel the attention is inappropriate, then surely the *responsible* thing to do would be to tell their brother/sister that their daughter is not interested in extracurricular activities, thus preventing future \"creepy\" bonding attempts.\n\nI read it more as just busy or possibly inattentive parents who failed to make this activity a priority because they hadn't paid for it themselves. ",
"A lot of comments are accusing the driver for tip-baiting, but maybe it's more of a theft deterrent? ",
"I once called my brother \"pizza crust face\" for about a week because that's how it looked to me (acne). I had no idea how stupid and hurtful that was and I could never imagine saying that now. I guess kids can just be brutally no-filter honest, not always in the good kind of way.",
"It's in Singapore so doubt it, did a reserve image search as the image as it looked oddly familiar.",
"More than that, she's gonna aspire to be a better person for others, kindness is contagious. ",
"Shithole laws",
"We need more Bort licence plates in the gift shop. ",
"Hope that taxi driver wins the littered ",
"I'm neither from India nor not from India and that sounds terrible.",
"Inscribe it on a tractor and you're good to go. ",
"And then people wonder why some people choose to sell drugs.",
"You're a good son. \nEdit - you're a good daughter too. And i hope your parents are proud of you. ",
"Fuck them. \n\nThey’re so fragile that they can’t let you give her that gift? \n\n\n\nAre you only telling us part of the story? Are you some sort of monster who holds this over their heads and makes them feel like shit?? Like my sister in law would do? Oh let me tell you about her...",
"Searched just to see who else thought this. lol",
"This is basically the story of every Zimbabwean in South Africa, it's really sad. The effort they put into work is uncanny too.",
"I read this in Dwight Schrute's voice. ",
"Yeah I just always feel like I'm wasting my time off when I'm home if I sleep. I absolutely hate my current job, and 10 hour days make it multiplied. I've decided though that tonight I'm going home and taking a nap once I get there, and going to bed early tonight. \n\n",
"Yeah, but how can girls get karma on reddit with low self confidence and... oh.\n\nOh dear. Well, either way we will be watching her career with great interest.",
"I know you got obliterated, but I'm right there with you. We live in a weird time. Every cafe is *the BEST little cafe oh my god it's sooo incredible* every semi-emotional scene in a movie or TV show I *the best fucking moment in movie history if they don't get the oscar I'll be SHOCKED* every band is the greatest band ever, and any person that rubs someone the wrong way is *the biggest douchebag I've ever met in my life*. It's like we forgot about degrees/levels of words, and justbgo full tilt with everything because we've forgotten how to talk. \n\nOf course, you or I aren't qualified to determine whether or not that person actually *did* think it was the best moment in TV history, and if he did then I'm glad he enjoyed it. However, all I'm saying is, I've noticed a really annoying trend, and his comment was directly in line with said trend. ",
"Stealing* \n\nAt least have spell correctly when trying to be a dick.",
"My cousins are excellent at this asking the most soul crushing questions without even knowing. \n\n\"What happened to your friend with the weird face?\" (He was funny looking, but he also coincidentally was just shot in the face and killed)\n\nOr asking other hard hitting questions like \"why didnt you finish school?\" \"Why don't you have friends anymore\" \"what are you doing with your life\" those are all real examples. At least if they were adults I could tell them the truth \n\n\"well I quit school to sell drugs so we could buy food and not freeze, and I dont have any friends because they all died or are in jail. And I'm trying to un-Fuck up my life thanks very much.\"\n\nOk, now I'm sad and have no idea why I ranted all of this\n\nEdit: thanks to everyone replieing with words of encouragement",
"By selling crack? Bold ",
"Why thank you, I'm sure the copious amounts of alcohol in my bloodstream helped. But seriously tho, your comment made my day, thanks. :)",
"\"We are poor because you're 43 years old and still living with us!\"",
"Sure ..'kizzs mon'. I'd give you odds that dude thought about that, wrote that like 4 times to get it childish enough, and hung that shit facing you, with the words facing out ... did he by chance bring it up in conversation? mf workin u sure af. Pardon my vernacularion wearyness. \n\nEdit - re-misconjugating ",
"Doesnt have kids thats just for tips",
"Fake news! ",
"Not just America. Here in the UK we have the same phenomenon. I'm 30 and still have to stop myself writing 'alot' on paper because I did it until I think I was a teenager. It's frustrating.",
"Don't forget, you're here forever.",
"I saw sometime similar in the window of a construction worker’s truck. It was a handmade birthday card obviously drawn by a child saying, “Happy Birthday Daddy, I love you!” on the front. I love that the Dad kept it and had it displayed in the window. ",
"how do you know that he didn't have a good life? sounds like he's grateful because his parents made sacrifices so that he could have a good life.",
"Same thing with my family, and I'm so happy for my parents that they live a comfortable life now. Lots of Frank and beans so that they could afford for me to play hockey. I wouldn't trade my parents or my upbringing for anything though. They taught me that having parents that love their children is more important than any tangible thing. ",
"God's be praised.",
"This is why i hated so many 90's movies. they were stories about hard working fathers, REALLY hard working fathers, who gave there wife and kids the life of luxury, but becuse they missed the odd football game they were \"the worst\".\n\nJust look at \"hook\" the kid is the moodiest little crap out there, but more than happy to instantly jump on that plane and fly to FREAKING LONDON for Christmas using his dads money.",
"Yeah, man. Seeing posts like this somehow makes me feel like I wasn't and am not alone. Such posts humble me and make me remember all the sacrifices my parents made for us kids!\n\n*sheds manly tears*",
"i doubt they would have made it a priority if they had paid for it themselves.\n\nSome people are so \"me first\" oriented they don't even think about what's good for their own kids until their belly is full and they have nothing else to do.",
"I haven't researched much into RDD, I like the idea of its purpose but don't see it really having much value (even from an investment stand point) just now. Maybe that will change when block chain tech is more common place",
"A) \"At least have spell correctly\". I'll get my grammar advice elsewhere, thank you.\n\nB) Not sure how telling the truth makes me a dick. I own a business and the building, and the items in it. If someone was steeling TP from me, it would come directly out of my pocket. I of course would ask them about why and deal with it accordingly, but it would be there from my paycheck in the end, which is not OK.",
"I hope the guy gave him a good tip",
"My son asked my aunt if she lost a tooth. She has a gap in between her front teeth. ",
"According to bird law, this dude should have been tarred and feathered after losing this case.",
"I saw something like this on a wall st algo trader's desk as well. It's not about how much money you make but what you are. He also had a nice sweet note from his kids along with a family picture. \n\nThat guy was a great guy, very friendly, helpful and generally a very nice person.\n\nI felt happy to see people are all the same mostly. Want the same things and just do their jobs. Proud American Patriots.",
"As in indian in the gas station scene, you are absolutely right. ",
"I once asked my mother if she was pregnant. She was not. ",
">having children to give you motivation in life\n\nMankind is an absolute genius",
"https://youtu.be/x2mS3uDqQL4",
"They obey the laws of physics, they obey the laws of physics like a lawyer follows the law or an accountant files their taxes.",
"Yikes this hit close to home",
"This is my favorite moment in that entire series.",
"Just wondering, how do you think this country survived before the late 1970s? That's when we started seeing the massive amounts of illegal immigration we have today. Before then, illegal immigration was vanishingly rare and mostly limited to a few small farming areas in the border states. Do you really think the US had no dishwashers and landscapers prior to the '70s?",
"True. A one-dimensional moron then. You’re absolutely right",
"Yeah, let’s automatically assume that there’s an element of something sinister or “creepy” about an uncle trying to do something nice for his niece like paying for her gymnastics lessons. After all, he is a man, and they’re depraved sex fiends that just can’t resist ogling their own relatives, or worse!\n\nI’m guessing you had serious issues with the male role models in your life or maybe had none at all, and if so that’s unfortunate. I hope you understand just how disgusting it is to go right to “creepy uncle” just from the description of events provided, clearly thinking that it was a very plausible *and acceptable* response. ",
"Good thing uber is there to disrupt the taxi industry by ignoring regulations. That'll save me a couple of dollars.",
"They’re bots doing it for karma. It’s unlikely there’s an actual person posting that individual comment. ",
"I hate people taking these photos. Just leave people's private life alone.",
"That's why you leave a small percentage - like 1 to 5 percent depending on where you are, and place restrictions on it as well.",
"TIL reposting means claiming it as your own. ",
"*gives manly hugs*",
"Part of me wants to believe this; the worldly side of me wonders if this is the cabbie version of the cute waitress who takes her wedding ring off for higher tips. \n \n",
"I’m not crying....you are!!",
"This hit me in the feels. ",
"the steering wheel indicates the taxi driver is Australian or British, neither of which relies on tips. so this is just Americans being cynical (not that i can blame them for it).",
"And we wonder why India's roads are lethal.",
"Can confirm. I was going to college (MSRIT) and my driver told me he hadn't slept in 2 days because he was working towards a \" bonus\". It's crazy how Uber and Ola changed our country out of nowhere",
"Plot twist he wrote it himself to try and get tips",
"Took me an extra decade (and kids of my own) to realize this",
"No, that's an entirely over-simplified reply: you assume too much from his comment. Taking this show as an example, quite a lot of the newer seasons are mediocre (at best!); even the older seasons weren't 100% amazing. The *specific* scene we're discussing is far superior, in my opinion.",
"You worried? We got drugs for that, too!",
"Where do you live?",
"https://youtu.be/8SIqZ0aDZ0I",
"Haha, reminds me of the time I naively asked my mother why the skin on neck looked like a dead chicken. Sorry, mom..",
"Did you read the last part of my comment? ",
"Am lawyer. Can confirm. \n\nWe use two different provisions depending on which the client prefers:\n\n“I have intentionally made no provision for _______.”\n\nOr\n\n“Not for lack of love or affection, but because ______ has the means and ability to care for themselves, I have intentionally amade no provision for him/her.”\n\nIn my jurisdiction, as in most, you can’t write out your spouse. They can take their “elective share” if you do, meaning they get whatever they would if you didn’t have a will at all. ",
"huh, the practical implications of encoding hatred in law are rather frightful",
"I'm from terrible and that sounds India",
"He works for tips...",
"Do you want to get a big tip? Because thats how you get a big tip.",
"we're going to need a truckload, because those feels are contagious",
"That’s why it’s there, and not in the glove box",
"I find it is much easier to pour your love and effort if it is for someone else’s benefit rather than my own.\n\nEven something like volunteer Tutoring. Tutoring for 2 hours and seeing someone learn and make progress feels way better and is easier than getting myself to spend two hours doing work I need to get done. ",
"Aye nae bother da, away n get an actual job ya uber driving prick",
"You're not alone man. Been there. Choose a path and fight for that shit. The trap can only get u so far.",
"Good stuff.",
"Depressed? ",
"Can confirm, her milk was wonderful that's why I finished it. ",
"You Gay?",
"Makes you wonder at what we do to our medical staff in hospitals worldwide eh?",
"I don’t think it was until around 25 that I really started to realize how much my parents mean to me, and how much they’ve supported and done for me throughout my life... I think it’s just part of that maturation you go through in your 20s.",
"indeed, must suck to be trapped in the 4th dimension.",
"Hahaha. I asked my mom why she had two stomachs... :( turns out it's just a muffin top ",
"Well, why else would he hang it there in front of every customer to see? I mean, when I saw it I first thought he hung it there so people tip him more, but I still think that. Where do I need to go? Mars?",
"He sounds like wan ae they daftys",
"That he stole off the previous driver after murdering him",
"Yeah, driving is no walk in the park, in fact, you'll probably be dealing with people walking across the parkway on the regular",
"Aw that's so sweet I feel like every Dad should get notes like this",
"And a forklift to hold that heavy heart up",
"And I'm willing to bet you gave the guy a bigger tip. Taxi drivers know what's up. ",
"It's not safe. Neither is practicing medicine for 28-hour shifts, or 48/72 hour on-call shifts, as is common in the US for medical residents. ",
"That's a beautiful story. Thanks for sharing. ",
"Absolutely. I wouldn't change it either. I know a person doesn't have to endure poverty to gain a strong work ethic, but my outlook on life was certainly moulded by the example my parents set.\n\nI hated my past job and a lot of my colleagues did too and they never understood why I'd tell them to at least appreciate that our employer is giving us the opportunity to earn and that we could do a lot worse for a lot less. Of course we get frustrated at times, but that's life :)",
"Didn't understand this until I had my own child",
"that's cause he's high af",
"I'll never forget that Christmas, I sat up the whole night crying. Cause daddy felt like a bum. See daddy had a job, but his job was to keep the food on the table for you and mom. ",
"I'm not crying.... Please... I swear I'm not crying...",
"That note came from an obsessive passenger.",
"My fellow human beings... I've been to third world countries and while I was there I looked around and understood.. I would fight and claw to be in this country. We are a melting pot. We have the ability to change unlike most countries did years ago. We have lost the thought of working hard for our dream. Even though we are not promised happiness but the pursuit of it. Yes I may be having to work my ass off so one day my children will have a better chance than me. That is what is promised my friends I'm sorry. We fight not for our lives but for the ones that may follow. This is the pursuit of happiness. This is the dream we are letting slip through our fingers. ",
"i think this is planned and clicked ? what do you think users?",
"Toalies in the taxicab?\n\nTo be clear, are you saying these men take large stinking craps in their pants while taking passengers to their destination? Oh baby, that what I'm talking about. Uber? Fuckin' Puper my man!",
"Proper me_irl",
"This guy knows how to get tips.",
"How great that the USA has no laws targeting such people!",
"I'm from a real country and that sounds like a good day out. ",
"I have nothing but respect for parents who do everything for their kids. \n\nIt sucks that money is most important for a \"better\" life. Im on my third job in past 5 months because I refuse to miss her karatee classes... but the look on her face when she sees I made it is priceless. Too bad my love for her over money drove her mom away, but i just cant ever justify ANYTHING over being there every week. ",
"Her delivery was quite smooth for a kid of that age.",
"It's easy to forget the sacrifices your parents make for you, since you're usually young at the time.\n\nI have a 20mth old son and am acutely aware of my role as his provider and the breadwinner of the home. It's sometimes quite a bit of pressure to put on yourself.\n\nI love getting him small surprises and seeing his face light up when I come home. I hope my father felt the same when he would come home and see me.\n\nBrb. Got to call my dad.",
"My dad retired a few years ago, and when he did he brought home a box of all the stuff that had been on his desk. I was surprised to find my school picture from fourth grade; I had framed a wallet sized photo for him for Christmas that year. Twenty years later and he still had it hanging up. :)",
"yeah i think so @Praanzal",
"I think it’s hard to really understand the feeling unless you’ve really experienced it. Thinking back to times before my wife, my dog, my cat, etc, I don’t think I really grasped what all these would mean to me either until I actually experienced caring for them so much. \n\nI assume the same is for a kid. We don’t really want them and aside from the general biological urge are really put off by the idea of having one, but I think if we did one day we would grasp what it really means and feels like to care for your own offspring. ",
"Acquiring marketable skills over a decade after the last time you tried is going to be really, really challenging. Maybe you've developed the work ethic to do the job, but you don't have the audacity to believe in yourself when the coursework seems nonsensical. \n\nSchool is bloody hard without youthful optimism",
"Lol tell that to my alcoholic dad who doesn't give a shit",
"Nice tip machine ahaha kidding...",
"That’s so true. I never imagined how much my parents could love me until I had a daughter of my own. She’s my heart outside my body. She’s the most important person in the world. ",
"Heck yeah! Back then those little things were >$100!",
"Have a child changes everything. I think it is impossible to understand without experience, it is way harder than anyone told you and far more rewarding. It is like having a new job which you pay money to do, are learning as you go, and stresses you the fuck out. But that job is amazing and loves you more than anything has loved you before. ",
"...",
"Amazing isn't it what parents will do for their children?\n\nI don't have kids and my 4-year-old nephew is the closest thing I have to a son but I'd still do anything for him and I watch my sister work hard to provide what our parents did too.\n",
"So sweet. I hope it wasn't the mother just telling the kids what to write although that's probably what happened. The kids don't grasp the concept of work, they just see the mother with them taking care of them and making them happy, while Dad is this person they don't know who doesn't know them as well as she does, spends most his time away from them, and when around them he demands a certain demeanor and who they can't be themselves around.",
"Thank You for working. So hard for us ;)",
"Why don't 3 of them just team up and take that car? If you're tuned to the moon on crystal meth anyway then you might as well bump a motor off some cunt. Monthen!",
"It happened last year",
"Its truly one of those cliche \"you just don't get it til u get it\" kinda things. I was the same way. Now my son is nearly 3 and its fucking stupid how rediculously much i love him.",
"Your gran is bullshit",
"There's so many armchair politicians on reddit. Every political thread I open there's some idiot responding to a comment with something similiar to \"that's because conservatives/democrats/liberals dont care about facts all they care about is their party/personal opinions/whatever.\" I don't understand how someone can group together tens of millions of people and think that every single one of them thinks the same. This website makes me angry sometimes.",
"I’m still wondering what to tell my kids (6 and 3) when they start asking why Santa brought their friends more toys than he brought them. ",
"Sleep's for the weak!",
"Stealing loo rolls from work isnt just a poor thing my old man used to it all the time despite making very very good money, he always said why pay for them when I can walk in to the stock room and take a pack of 48.",
"Extremely heartwarming and inspiring, but the truth is that in 2018 nobody should have to work so hard, especially in developed nations. Moreover, automation will render this guy unemployed in a matter of years, at best.\n\nI’ll happily trade less heartwarming memes like this in exchange for universal basic income coupled with a universal land value tax.\n\nWe all need to collectively wake up. The old “work hard” ethos is dying and died along time ago for those fortunate enough to either be born into or able to accumulate capital, land, and the economic rents they provide.",
"The pragmatist in me understands where you're coming from but then again I don't feel I missed out on anything as a child.\n\nSure we couldn't go on skiing trips in the alps with some of the classmates, but I still had a wonderful childhood. ",
"I'll take two shits, fuck the shaving",
"I think this was a cab driver in Singapore....... i remember this was posted there. So they don't actually accept tips.",
"OP has 1988 in his name and the PS2 came out around 2000, so I'm guessing he was 12 or 13 at the time. ",
"Cute repost",
"Since the PS2 came out in 2000 and his username says 1988. I would bet that he was at least 12. ",
"Exactly. I had a wonderful childhood and what we didn't have in gadgets we made up for playing football with other kids until our mothers called us home from the door.\n\nNot mad at all. ",
"> I've noticed a really annoying trend, and his comment was directly in line with said trend.\n\nSurely you aren't claiming to have a problem with *different people having different opinions* about what they consider top-grade. Are we still allowed to nominate such moments of brilliance to the list or has it filled up by now?",
"Yep, til u realize hes got two older kids as well, but fuck them, its all about Maggie.\n\nEdit: /s. Evidently the sarcasm is lost on some of the participants of this thread. Im well aware of what happens in this episode. Simpsons was a cornerstone of my childhood.",
"Taxis still exist?",
"35 hours of being a fucking zoomer. Aye, well done mate",
"Took me awhile to realize you were trying to say \"I am not a lawyer\" rather than trying to tell everyone you have butt sex...",
"I'm from Mars and what is this?",
"They all have this same story.",
"Aye no danger. Get tae yer bed Maggie Thatcher. ",
"Good luck! You hit a nerve with me and I really hope things go well for you. ",
"One Christmas all the kids in my neighbourhood got Razor scooters, but I got a Zinger scooter. Man did I feel poor.\n\nLooking back on it now, it's strange how such a small difference can make a huge impact when you're that young. Now I'm thankful my parents got me a scooter at all. ",
"Hear that buzzing noise? That's Shakespeare turning in his grave at 1000mph. Your statement just made a zombie.",
"And my heart is leaving here",
"This will be well buried but who gives a crud. \n\nWhen it was my 11th birthday (I think) we couldn’t afford a party or anything so none of my friends came around and all my parents could afford to get me was a second hand Xbox game.\n\nI stayed awake for hours crying that night because I didn’t have a ‘good’ birthday. I know my parents heard me crying as we were all living in a caravan at the time.\n\nI still feel like shit about it.",
"Not have had kids. \n\nThey clearly could not afford them, so it was an incredibly bad choice. ",
"Don't forget, you're here forever",
"This is SO very true. I'm going to call my mom now...",
"Just take more adderall man. Fuck it. See how many days you can last before you finally snap. I reckon about 6, but you should aim for more",
"FUPA!!!",
"Doesn’t work. The Court decides what is an appropriate amount having regard to a wide range of factors. The only thing that works is giving it all away during your life to your favoured children and then setting up trusts so that there is nothing in your Estate but a rusty paper clip. Then you give the ones you hate 100% of the rusty paper clip.",
"You'll get there. These experiences are turning you into the sort of person that can be there for others if (heaven forbid) anything that tough happens to them. You're a good person to look up to, and one day they'll be able to express that. Maybe that's why they ask you these questions; because they know they can. ",
"You should have to work like that to make amends for your shite chat",
"Damn I remember when this was first posted 3 years ago in r/Singapore",
"This driver would get a $100 tip from me.",
"The people being sympatic give more tips.... Lolllll gj driver",
"If you want to avoid/help this I suggest leaving a letter every Christmas saying that they were some of the best children in the world that year and that they are on the top of the nice list. That will make your kids super happy :)",
"Username *does not* check out",
"My son used to draw crazy monsters for me. I love them. He's growing up now, so I haven't gotten one in a while, but I might ask for another now.",
"Cop this downvote",
"Aye maybe in your society Sandra, but we don't have to do that round here. ",
"Trust me pal. But if you wanna go toe to toe on bird law, let me know. ",
"She is still similar in that she's really good with finding ways to save money whether it's insurance or bouncing payments around bank accounts to maintain loyalty schemes etc. \n\nThe sad part is that even though my parents are very stable now with a lot in savings and stable careers, she still spends as if she's back in that scenario sometimes. She'll never treat herself, never wants anything etc. She's a nightmare to buy presents for lol ",
"You wrote it because you recognized it, felt it and said it. You have to crawl before you walk-I completely un-fucked my VERY fucked up life, and I promise you it was difficult, it sucked and even 20 yrs later I still have extended family members who still look a little sideways at me-Fuck them, change one thing at a time and each one will motivate you for the next change.major good luck to you-if you want it you CAN have it, I promise ",
"How can someone be so ignorant? “Grow up?”\nGet out of here. \nThings impact people in different ways. ",
"If you ever have kids. They bring out a lOve inside of you that you never thought you had ",
"Also, one almost never says \"lot\" without an \"a\" before it.",
"Why does this fictional person have to live in NYC?\n\nI can't afford to live in NYC, so I don't. ",
"Thank you. I'm glad your parents rock too. Some have commented to the tune that our parents shouldn't have had us but I am sure you feel similarly that I'm glad to be here and I didn't feel like I missed out growing up. ",
"Well you weren't wrong.",
"My dad was never there. My parents didn’t attend any of my school functions. We would sometimes do stuff as a family. \n\nHe provided for us (mother was fully disabled). I never got nice things, but I got what I needed. I resented it for a short period after leaving the house, but learned to respect what he provided. 10 years later (and moving back to my state), my Dad and I are practically best friends lol.",
"I was 33 when I asked. ",
"I don't understand it. That kind of sacrifice. Had a similar situation with my dad. Maybe it was more that my mom's the one who wanted kids. He was originally a bachelor. His specific work was in a different state, but my moms parents and sons from a previous marriage were in another, eight hours away. Hindsight 20/20 it wasn't a great choice. \n\nI don't want kids, and if I had them I would not be capable of making sacrifices like that. I can't imagine living your entire life miserable so your kid can't see you and when they do they know your unhappy. The lead by example situation is basically that you won't live a fulfilling life, you will sacrifice part of your happiness and well-being for something or someone else. That's horrible. ",
"My parents gave me a \"Shaver\" scooter 😂 I loved it but the off-brand name makes me laugh to this day",
"Don't beat yourself up. Everyone fucks up sometimes. Digging yourself out of the hole can be extremely hard. It can take years and years, and at times you want to give up. Don't, though. Fight for your better life. It only seems impossible, but it isn't. You've got this!\nI've only just begun to get to a better place in my life, and I promise you can't have fucked up worse than me. At one point, I had lost all of my friends. All of my family was mad at me, and I lost years I could have had with my dad, who died of cancer while I was still in the process of fucking up. Life is very hard sometimes, but you CAN make it out of that hole. ",
"Good job detective ",
"I guess that pretty much covers it.",
"I'M NOT CRYING YOU'RE CRYING",
"The picture where they're looking at each other it's so cute",
"I wonder if he actually has a kid or if uses that to get better tips.",
"Because I live in NYC so I can give actual accurate numbers regarding if an immigrant lived here.\n\nI'm not pulling fake statistics from my bum for an argument. ",
"You ever see someone's cubicle decorated with pictures of their kids. Same thing. Also, it's a car, any place is in view of everyone. Honestly, the least visible spot is hanging from the steering wheel.",
"There totally should be a subreddit for such blunt children’s questions if there isn't already. Often times they are really funny.",
"If you own the building it's not a paycheck. You're the bad guy. Sorry if this is the first time you are realizing this and best of luck improving your life. ",
"yeah, especially if you got it in the original box and not secondhand!",
"Soooo many drug dealers on Reddit.",
"Similar experience here. My dad and I are fine and I still see them almost every week now, but I can’t honestly say we were very close growing up. When I was a kid he’d come home around 6, have dinner, then leave for his second job so he could provide for us. By the time he would get home I’d be in bed and he’d be gone for work before I got up. \n\nI don’t begrudge him or anything for doing that. He did what he had to do to ensure we had a house, food, and enough for us to feel like we weren’t different from other kids financially or missing out. But I wouldn’t say I don’t wish he felt like a bigger part of my childhood presence-wise. ",
"Why did they receive less gifts then?",
"The fuck does it say, anyway? So hard for us?",
"Aye no bother mate, I'm far happier living somewhere where 35 hour weeks have me ahead of the bills. If you can -\n either move or change jobs, if you can't - best of luck to you my man",
"Is that sweet that gave me diabetes.",
"Bet this has gotten him through some really tough times ",
"My brother must've been 5 or so and saw my aunt and asked her why she had no boobies because other ladies all did (in my family I guess he meant, the aunt married into the family). He didn't really ask her in particular either. He asked it of the table, where my mom, grandmother, and several of her sisters were sitting. Everyone laughed it off, we don't really take things too seriously. But my mom still teases my brother about it. \n\nEdit: she does have boobies, they're just small. ",
"Taxi in 2018",
"You should tell them this if you haven’t!",
"You are not alone in thinking that.",
"It’s really common. My husband has two second cousins who are brother and sister who don’t speak over the family will. Their mum left them an equal share of her estate and the sister get she should get more because the brother is child free. Never mind her children are grown and have kids of their own. ",
"I had an almost identical experience with a step dad, waited outside for him for hours to play football, when he finally arrived he went straight indoors, wasn't interested.\n\n\nI always try and remember the sadness and disappointment I felt that day, when my own kids ask me to play, regardless of how tired or stressed out I am, I'll always do it. My kids will never feel that sadness.",
"What a nice sentiment between a father and daughter that some random weirdo decided to take a creep shot of and make public on the internet for fake internet points. ",
"wait.. is the note supposed to be telling their kids they are the best or that their friends with better toys were nicer than them? \n\nNice try Timmy, but if you want an Xbox you're gonna need to step up your game next year\n\nRegards,\nKris",
"They're doing very well thank you.\n\nMortgage on a 3-bedroom home in a safe area almost paid off, a car each and my Dad has a nice motorbike, my Dad does sport shooting(clays/skeet) and has a few other hobbies he's looking forward to indulging in more as they both close in on a healthy retirement.\n\nMy Dad has worked on railroads now for about 30 years so his knees and back are kinda shot, but he's happy and I'm sure he'll enjoy a more relaxing life when he retires.",
"Sleep is not a waste of time. Sleep is the mafia and you owe sleep money. Pay sleep first or it will come for you and hurt you.",
"he's become a cartoon of himself",
"You have told them how you feel right? Just make sure they know. Now I need to go talk to my parents.. lol",
"“Dear daddy, thank you for working. so hard for us. I love you a lot -Resi” ",
"Parking",
"When I was a kid, my cousin once called me a sausage and I replied with, no you’re a sausage because you’re brown. My parents obviously told me off but at the time, I had no idea what was wrong with what I said. ",
"The photo was taken in Singapore, they don't have a tipping culture there. Not everything on Reddit is from America. ",
"Funny that as adults we need to hide behind a facade, we generally don't like to admit the blunt truth.",
"Yeah it wasn't meant to be malicious or anything. I was 11 I think, maybe 12. Basically when they were just released and I'm 29 now.\n\n",
"No basically saying that they are the best kids in the world and are on the top of the nice list ",
"Oh, I thought there was a full stop after working. Thanks",
"Brilliant tip making idea!!\n\n",
"16 hour days? Is that a big deal, because I'm from Japan, and I work 18+ hours every day, and I also have to get drunk every night to build a great connection with my colleagues, and I can't even afford having a family, and still people tell me I still have it easy.",
"I used to use the free newspapers as toilet paper. I'm poor as hell but I make sure I earn enough to pay for my little girl to be full of food and have everything she asks me for. Yeah I might spoil her but I work my fingers to the bone to make sure she never wants for nothing. If I wanted things when I was younger I went and worked for it. I go without so much just to make sure my girl doesn't. But I know I'm not the only one as there are a billion more parents in the world that put there children first. So to all working mummas and pappas I salute you for putting the little ones first. Your the mvps in life",
"It sucks to hear that. Maybe these cousins aren't the best companions for you. \n",
"I can relate to this. \nKids are evil little shits, but innocent at the same time lol.\n\nI suffered with acne from the age of 13 until 37. I used to work in schools and a memory that has always stuck with me from about 15 years ago was when a primary school kid asked why my face was so red, in front of his class and teacher. I felt embarrassed at the time, but knew it was an innocent question, I wasn’t sure how to respond, so I just said, “it just is”, the teacher looked quite awkward too.\n\nThe kid was probably 5 or 6, if I’d spotted him on the playground at break time I would off kicked his arse! /s \n\n\n\n",
"Great to hear. Wishing them well. ",
"When I was younger I used to trace my mother’s face and ask her why her cuts aren’t bleeding... yeah no wonder she has so much anti-ageing cream laying around...",
"Is it just me but does this seem like a way to pull at the heart strings of passengers for more tips? I am very skeptical this is legit. ",
"I was with my nan, and she was talking to a friend who said she had lost her husband... to which I said did u find him. I regret that looking back on it .",
"My dad was a mechanic and worked eight hours away. He had old photos of my sister and I when we were little in his toolbox and wallet. Still does. Recently saw some photos of my (now dead) grandfather with me and all his grandkids when we were very little. He was very reserved but calm...laid back isn't quite the right words, but he enjoyed gardening. So it was weird to see photos of him interacting with us when we were toddlers and just seeing on his face how much he adored us and loved us. I think I just didn't realize because he was in his late 70s by the time I came around. ",
"Yeah, he made this to hustle for better tips. ",
"What country is this driver in?",
"It's basically a distraction, you would be surprised that kids would actually cherish that because of sentimental value",
"I kept reading flat breads and couldn’t understand the correlation.",
"There is such thing as tipping cab rides?",
"This kind of thing makes me feel weird. I don't ever remember doing stuff like this for my dad. I think it means that I'm really not that emotionally thoughtful, but i think the real reason is I've just never really liked my dad. He provided very well for us all my life, went to all our sports and concerts, tried to be friendly with us and teach us life skills, but I just don't like him as a person. And I don't think I even did as a child and it makes me feel weird when I see kids loving their dad like this. ",
"Belongs in /r/awww",
"https://youtu.be/x2mS3uDqQL4\n\nThese aren't tears I swear.",
"Do it for her. ",
"they were all out",
"\"Land of the free\" lmao",
"No, I didn't cry...",
"Tbh it sounds terrifying to me (25F), why would you WANT to make someone else your world. I get it with a partner, sharing life together etc. But stressing yourself, working your arse off to support and raise someone else, all your hard work at work and home, for someone else... I'm far too selfish for that. Plus when they die, jesus I'd probably kill myself. \n\nThe amount I even love my dogs stresses me out sometimes, I get upset over the mere though of losing them..so applying that to a person..no thanks. ",
"I stole toilet paper from work once. I felt so terrible that when I got paid and I went and bought some shitty TP from the store once I got paid and brought it back. ",
"Love you Dad :)",
"I did not read this right. Thought the little holes were periods so it said: “Dear daddy, Thank you for working. So hunt for us. I love you a lot. Love Resi”",
"Nah, this driver seems to be from a country that doesn't tip.",
"my sister used to call me crater face bc i had a bunch of acne scars. i still remember that and maybe that’s why now as a 23 yr old i always take care of my skin bc that made me so insecure",
"Ok, i get what you're saying, but it's come off in such absolutes, it can't be ignored. Neglect? Nah. Just a different parenting style. OP even said he knows hos dad loves him. Not everyone has to put sentiment in objects. Some people just aren't ruled by emotion. Some people just don't want clutter. If i were to save every drawing or whatever my son were to make, id need a bigger house, and hes only 3.",
"Well did she?",
"I believe in you. Keep on trying, and you can rant here any time. ",
"Or that was the year they graduated and they were 30.",
"Was he from a shithole country?",
"My brother and I tried out gymnastics when we were younger, so I find it curious why she wouldn't like it. We enjoyed it. It takes a lot of strength to be able to do everything from parallel bars to flips and back bends. \n\nI did take fencing as well, but only enough classes to learn the basics. That was fun, and I recommend it for adults and children alike. I haven't done martial arts unfortunately. Always wanted to learn one of those.",
"This photo was originally taken in Singapore (like 2 years ago) they don't have a tipping culture there. ",
"that wasn’t why",
"I really can't make sense of any of that. How does owning my business make me a bad guy? How does owning my business mean I need to improve my life?\n\nYou're making some generalizations that don't even make much sense.\n\nYou have some odd misconceptions about the world. Maybe come back after you've lived a little.",
"For those saying this is tip bait, this reposted image is from Singapore, where I am from. There is no tipping culture in Singapore. ",
"Rigged",
"My dad's been driving for a car service in NYC for the past 35 years, 16 hour days are pretty much standard, especially now with Uber taking away so much business.",
"We did it, reddit!",
"Don't think anyone said there are toilets in the cabs. And neither did anyone say they crap their pants. There are toilets in the airport for the cabbies. And there are public toilets inside the city too. ",
"Love you too! ",
"You should call them and tell them this",
"I remember getting a small 6 pack of various types of cereal for Christmas back in the mid-80's when I was 10. We got to eat each one throughout the day. I'm 42, and think of that gift as better than any expensive gift I've ever received.",
"That doesn't matter, though. People think of \"a lot\" as one word because \"lot\" isn't used in similar contexts often enough alone.",
"There’s a big difference between honesty and being cruel. I prefer no filter honesty. It’s real and very much to the point. Everyone’s so damn sensitive these days. ",
"Do you really think it's impossible for our culture to have changed over fifty years?",
"Yeah you're right. My cousin who's in high school now, when he was in elementary school asked the are we poor question. Reasoning he gave is that his friends houses were huge and had bowling alleys, and there's did not have a bowling alley. They live in a $2 million 6000 square ft home, without a bowling alley, lmao.",
"Dude, I don't know your thoughts on this but Reddit will help. I can't remember the sub but at Xmas there is a sub where people will help you give your kids the best Christmas they can. Anyone know what I'm talking about? ",
"Yeah. It's upsetting to me that the dad's reaction was to tell them off for upsetting the mom.",
"Parking a lot?",
"I once heard my parents arguing over finances after I was supposed to be asleep. I could only catch every few words and I didn't understand the context or particulars of the conversation, but the numbers they discussed seemed like a lot of money from my six year old perspective. The next morning at breakfast I admitted I'd overheard their argument, and asked them if they were secretly rich. My parents laughed themselves to pieces.",
"Anytime you have a a bad day a work, one look at that and your set",
"I find it hilarious that the handwriting is easier to read than most of my fully grown co-workers. Paperwork is hectic. ",
"I made my grandmother a birthday card when I was very little. I loved drawing dinosaurs at the time so naturally that's what went on her card with the caption \"How old are you?\" I didn't make the connection or understand that I pretty much called my grandmother old as dirt, but after she passed away a few years ago I received a box, and in it was that stupid card I made for her. She kept it for like 15 years.",
"India doesn't really have the Meth culture and don't think it is readily available. The cabbies could be taking something, but, Meth is unlikely. Besides, drugs aren't something that the cabbies can afford. Cheap liquor, maybe. ",
"I've told them in the past. It wasn't that easy really because we're quite a closed family with regards to communication and I think a lot of it stems from that period; they just bottled it up and got on with it or, at the very least, shared the struggle themselves and never let us see it. So growing up we never really spoke much about feelings or difficult things I think because that openness was never really established from a young age.\n\nIf I went to my parents with an issue then they would definitely listen, but for any of us to get to that point it's usually pretty bad lol.\n\nIt's something I'm trying to work on myself in general but also in encouraging my family to be more open too.",
"\"No, it's the London look. It's called fashion.\"",
"\"Competition is taking away our business so our employees need to work longer.\" \n\n\\#JustCapitalistThings",
"Maybe I'm just being cynical, but could be a trick to get more tips...",
"What episode is it?",
"I once asked a kid if his parents were short too. I honestly was curious, but I now see why it wasn't a very nice thing to ask. \n \nThat was 30 years ago and I still feel bad about that one. \n \nI'm genuinely a very curious person. I grew up in a rather boring environment. The first time I met a lesbian, she let me ask anything I wanted (we were good friends)... I asked a ton of questions. Thank you Amity! ♥️",
"This is beautiful:’) \n\nTbh, I got emotional reading some of these stories redditors posted on this sub. Parents working over 10 hours a day 7 days a week to make sure there’s food to eat and shelter for their children.\n\nThat is love:’)\n",
"Haha mannn, I remember those. All lined up in cellophane wrap.\n\nI wonder if they still do them? They were the perfect amount for a single portion.",
"My thought exactly ",
"Or they have, and he still weirds them out. \n\n\"Heeeyyy...sooo...its kinda weird you keep asking for pictures of your niece. We already sent you the christmas card...\"\n\nHaha, yeah. Lol. You know what would be pretty cool? Her in a leotard. Here, I already signed her up for gymnastic classes. \n\n\"Um....wtf?\"",
">Soooo many drug dealers ~~on Reddit.~~\n\nFTFY",
"I asked my mom constantly for a little brother not knowing she couldn’t have more children after she had me. Now as an adult who has infertility issues my heart aches for the senseless way I badgered her about something she desperately wanted. ",
"I second this.",
"Shitty, asshole ethics for your shitty asshole. ",
"It’s also an example of a sick society where that is even something that happens in the first place. ",
"Same, i got some cheapie off brand scooter but mine was ultra crappy, the hole that the button for the handlebar stem was too big and every time i went over a bump it would fold and made the scooter scrap the ground.\n\nStill loved it though.",
"Haha, well I am sure they appreciated the laugh :) Sometimes it's the small things in life that turn the tables or at least make suffering or struggling a little more manageable. ",
"Hey man, try to look at it in a different way. Parents will ALWAYS try to make you live up to your full potential. When he sets those goals or tasks they will always be a bit or sometimes a lot harder than what you're used to. If he would always give you those easy tasks and goals you wouldn't be progressing properly and maybe never reach the point you and your dad envisioned. He wants you to push your boundaries and work hard for the things you love. Also, it's very important for you to do something that you love doing, regardless of what your dad or other family members expect you to do because otherwise you will never be able to really show what you've got. If you do what you love and you're always giving it your 100% then I'm 100% sure your dad will be a very proud man. This applies to everything in life: work, family, friends, ... \n\nIf you *really* feel like you're doing EVERYTHING you can and giving it your all, your dad will know and he'll be proud regardless of the results of your endeavours.",
"Points for creativity then.",
"Welcome to almost all non wester countries",
"Hey why did you assume his gender?",
"I knew I didn't have to scroll very far to find the same thing I thought. ",
"There’s a very wide variety of amphetamines - diet pills are often amphetamines for example and definitely keep you wired.",
"/r/Santaslittlehelpers",
"When I was 5 and we lived in Seattle. My mom was at the hospital having a baby. I asked her, “What happens if we get an Asian baby? We won’t be able to understand what he’s saying.” \n",
"\"My kids are perfect, they just don't always act that way.\"",
"Plot twist: Resi is his girlfriend.",
"\"Tell your friend Timmy that his Mom is lying to him about Santa\"",
"Really? No one? 7 AM to 11 PM is 16 hours and that's not really a stretch. Don't most people stay up and alert longer than that?",
"He was 24.",
"They do! I still get them for my kids every now and then.",
"My dad still has some of this stuff in his office from my siblings and I. We're all in our 20s now.",
"Dad may not have shown enough appreciation for those notes, but at least he did come back after that trip to the store for cigarettes. ",
"The best thing you could do is to basically tell them what you told us. As a parent, that would be a life-highlight.",
"You're lucky :)",
"Ah, the classic note from the kids, obviously written by an adult, and put in full view of passengers to encourage emotional blackmail and extra tips. Good work driver, good work.",
"back when I was a kid if i didn't have something i just didn't...my first toy car was a broken model car fished out of a dumpster at my school...i mean i played with it because it was pretty cool and only missing 1 wheel...it was probably some of the best years of my life tho...almost everything was free cept for food ",
"He could only afford to support Bart and Lisa. Him working at the nuclear plant was his way of being finally able to support Maggie financially, no matter how unethical his boss was.",
"> i always take care of my skin\n\ndo u have any advice? im 20",
"I didn't understand either - I knew how love felt, I loved my wife, my parents, my siblings.\n\nBut when my daughter was born I found a whole new level, one that makes me question if I even knew what love was before. Now I know biology does shit to make us love our kids and stuff, but wow, when you realize that squirmy screamy helpless pink thing is yours, if changes everything. It's a different kind of love, one where you expect nothing back, but give everything. I love my wife but that comes with provisions - that I be respected, cared about, treated well. With a baby you start off as it's life, everything you do is keeping it alive and safe and warm and fed and doing everything (everything!) To keep that little thing alive. It's so all consuming that everything else pales in comparison. And even when you've not slept in 30 hours and haven't eaten because you're sick and still have the baby, even when your other loves in life need you, even when you need you, that single love overpowers everything else. It gives you strength you didn't know you had. It gives you nightmares worse than anything you could previously imagine. It returns nothing for a long time , but then one day they smile at you and holy fuck! It's probably just Stockholm syndrome at that point, but they find a way to get more love. Then they start talking, and you start finding this wonderful little person inside that pink ball, and you want to make that person happy, and you are so responsible for not fucking them up that you will do anything, anything, to keep them safe and warm and healthy and happy. I didn't know what it really meant to say \"I would die for xyz\" until I had my daughter. I would happily, in a heartbeat, without a moment's hrsitation, give my life for her. I love my wife but I don't know if I could as quickly and without reservation say the same. In my heart I know I would suffer anything for my daughter .\n\nAnd I had no idea I was capable of that kind of love before I had her. It was a new depth of feeling and commitment that I simply could not imagine. And I think that is part of why parents tell people without kids that it's an amazing experience - the actual day to day sucks sometimes, it's hard work, demanding, with very little physical reward. But the experience of loving and caring for a little pink ball that turns into a child then a shithead teen then a self supporting young adult to a husband/wife then a parent - that's a one way trip that does t have an equal. \n\nAnd I think that the overwhemling love diminishes as they get older, move out, move on. But, as I've seen from my sister's recent cancer battle, parents are still 100% committed and dedicated to their children, but the shape of that changes. \n\nAnyhow, all that is to say, I had no idea either, and I too struggled to love myself - that doesn't change. It just gets replaced with a new love that brings a different purpose and changes life so completely that you end up a very different person than before. I can't say better or worse for everyone - I think am a much better person, as the journey so far has taught me a lot. But the love you feel really comes from nowhere and takes over. \n\nAnyhow, $0.02 cheers!",
"Tell me more about this baked beans on toast. Sounds tasty ",
"What if they weren't nice?",
"Technically, I was offering an opposing possibility.\n\nAnd yes, I had both missing father figures, and serious issues with the male role models that remained. So yes, its disgusting. Also apt. \n\nI can only hope that he just failed to mention how they all got together to plan this. Because extracurriculars are not easy. Before purchase, he should have asked the parents if it was all right with them. Then, if the days available were good for their schedule. \n\nMaybe he did those. Maybe he didn't. But my response was plausible. And the internet makes it *acceptable.*",
"I'm sorry, were you talking to me?",
"Awh.. My heart ",
"I don't mind, you can assume my gender too if you like :) ",
"That was in a different time, even if op is only in his 20's. That's easy to say now.",
"Fuck, that got me right in the feels ",
"Uber recently set a drive limit of 12 hours in sydney, seems like a smart move",
"I thought cleavage looked like a butt. So I called them butt titties. I would point them out in public ALL THE TIME. My mom thought it was hilarious and always hushed me but didn’t really scold me. It wasn’t until later in life.....",
"My Dad doesn't speak English as a first language and the neighbour's husband passed away due to cancer. My Mum told him to go around and have a word, and I tagged along.\n\nHe knocks on the door, my neighbour answers all bleary-eyed and he looks her dead in the eyes and says: 'Congratulations'\n\nMy Mum had told him to say *commisserations.* \n\nThankfully the neighbour took it well and said thank you.",
"Using two colors to catch the eye of a tourist: Check\n\nMessage in clear view of passengers: Check\n\nChildish writing with perfect spelling: Check\n\nThis is a ruse.",
"Automation is going to be fun...",
"My dad was a single parent and a taxi driver too! He drove full time. Usually 12-16 hours a day, six or seven days a week. It’s hard to me imagine the strength that must have took, now that I’m an adult with a full time job. I’m a woman, and I know he struggled terribly raising two girls completely on his own. He still does everything he can for me, but thankfully it’s not that often he helps me out of a jam. Recently my car got totaled while it was parked. He’s letting me drive his car until insurance settles. But now he owns a cab company of his own so it wasn’t a big deal to him. I don’t think it’s possible for a human being to love another more than my dad loves me. I’m a lucky person. I should hang out with my dad more often. I see him once every couple of weeks. It should be more. ",
"This post has been on the front page since 200 comments\n\nReddit algorithm is garbage",
"[This guy does](http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html)",
"The fuck kinda cheap ass cab driver uses an old ass Hyundai?",
"Oh my god. I never knew about this sub and I am amazed. Sometimes Reddit is a wonderful place. ",
"Yeah! Why should poor people get to experience the joy of children and grandchildren?! Filthy poors. ",
"Dumbass",
"That moment when you try to get a look of your taxi drivers crotch, but all you get is feels.",
"The gap between the two front teeth is technically called a diastema, and the little piece of flesh that dangles between the teeth is called the punching bag. ",
"They are obviously children so it would be wrong to just give them the boot because they ask well intentioned questions that they don’t realize are socially inappropriate for whatever reason to adults. \n\n“Why is it wrong to ask them what happened to their friends?” \n\n“Well because the way that question was said made it sound as if he had no friends and he is very sensitive about not having any friends so we know not to ask questions that make it sound like we are aware of his having no friends!” \n\nI can take any question thrown at me by a child, and anyone should be able to. If they can’t then they really need to change much about their lives, and I am someone who has the most fucked life on top of having a disability that is literally legal to discriminate against in hiring processes.",
"You don't realise how much your parents do for you until you reflect on it later in life. ",
"Here’s how my parents did it. Santa has lots and lots of kids in the world to give presents to, so mommy and daddy have to help him out sometimes so that other kids with no mommies and daddies get presents too. \n\nEvery year they’d leave us at a relatives house for the evening and they’d have to go somewhere to meet the elves to talk about what we wanted. \n\nI didn’t question the existence of Santa till I was 11, to me it was just natural that of course Santa doesn’t have unlimited money because of how my parents handled it. ",
"Why not get a dog then? Plenty of love for less work.",
"Have lasted a full 7 months without purchasing TP before. Was 18 and broke, many a house party ran out of shit tickets mysteriously quickly",
"Just keep grinding. Be the best you can be, if something isn't working, change. That's all one can ask for. You aren't letting anyone down but yourself, so work on that. ",
"I had a kid tell me I have small eyes. I just squint a lot because I can't handle bright lights.",
"Darn it my eyes are sweating again\n",
"Is it from you or another kid though, that’s the part that matters",
"So you're saying there's a direct correlation between the side of the steering wheel and whether there are tips... Hmmmmmm",
"That's the one! Thanks buddy! ",
"https://i.imgur.com/fJx7fjJ.jpg",
"This hits deep",
"When I was 6, I was in a school play about different cultures. I was Afghan, my dad in the play was a white boy from class and my mom was a black girl from class. I was so confused so I asked my Chinese teacher why I had a black mom? She looked at me so shocked and told me never to say anything like that again or I could go to jail. Nevertheless I never said it again. ",
"granny, u got milk?",
"He could have put it nicer for sure. Although hating on your father for not being around because he needed to make money to provide for you, means you’re not seeing the whole picture. Should he work less so you can spend more time together, but it means he’s called a bad dad for not providing for his kids? Or should he work as hard as possible so you are provided for, but you still tell him he’s a bad dad because he’s never around.",
"I'm just a dog and like chasing birds.\n\nI need to go outside (3)",
"I remember hearing about a PlayStation as well and thinking the same thing!",
"It’s so cliche, but you really don’t understand it until you have one. My daughter was born a year and a half ago and before that I seriously did not think I could love another human being so much. She is literally my everything and it just didn’t happen until I saw her for the first time. I would die of starvation before I let her go hungry. \n\nSo yeah, it’s completely normal. ",
"My birthday is in March and for my 7th birthday I asked for a Care bear. I didn’t get one, but then on Christmas I got one. I was such an ungrateful little shit. I had already forgotten that I even wanted one, and I said something to the extent of, “wow I didn’t even want one, these are for babies.” I still remember the look on my mom’s face. I come from a family of 11 kids so I’m sure it was hard to find presents to please us all. After I looked closely at the bear I saw that it talked when I pushed its stomach and it even cane with a dvd, which were a big deal back then. I felt bad and ended up apologizing to my mom, but I still remember it. ",
"Don't forget you're here forever",
"Praise God! \n Ironically, this is what crosses actually looked like. People would carry just the top of the T.",
"Nice! Where are you from? I'll have to see if they do them in the UK still. I think they were originally meant as testers primarily, convenience secondarily. ",
"Much better than Trump cunt posters",
"The dad has to feed people who exist because of him, isn't that a given? If he didn't want to work hard, he wouldn't have kids in the first place. Unless he was forced to at gunpoint.",
"What is a digital photo? ",
"Hahahahahahaha ",
"What was this comment man, its gone",
"This Story and this picture really resonated with me. My dad had to take a loan out to buy taxi license. This was required by law. Suddenly in comes uber and lyft and politicians dissolve the taxi board. Well my dad still had a six figure loan and his business has suffered greatly. The world can be so cruel sometimes.",
"*whoosh*",
"I remember one year I was maybe 10 or 11 and approaching Christmas I made a joke about how “there aren’t many presents under there, still got some shopping to do” or something to that effect. Come Christmas morning there were the exact same presents under the tree. I felt so guilty immediately, I didn’t apologize because I was so embarrassed for having said something like that, but I made sure to be a little overly thankful for everything... I literally never saw my parents sleeping, they were always either at work or working on something at home just so we could get by, they gave us a wonderful life and now that I have kids of my own I remember things like that... im so proud of them for working so hard and wish I had known better than to say something like that... I can’t imagine how hurt they must have been",
"This story really reminds me of my parents. We never went without as kids but they once split a 50p packet of rich tea biscuits for dinner so that we could eat well. \n\nOn one occasion, Mum found some old potatoes in the cupboard so went to the shop to buy a small piece cheese to make a cheese & potato pie for the two of them.\nWhen the deli worker cut the piece of cheese off the block, it came to 22p but Mum only had 20p so had to ask for a small chunk to be cut off...",
"So salty lmao",
"Yeap. Looks like I'm deleting my Uber app now ",
"I respectfully disagree with you\n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/IL0XZ_d.jpg",
"Baked beans aren't something I enjoy in general, but yeah, it isn't very nice(in my opinion) and objectively as a meal, well, it isn't a meal.\n\nMy Dad did hard labour a minimum of 5 days a week. It wasn't enough and I don't know how they managed. ",
"He was 35. It was awkward at dinner that afternoon.",
"Damn I would’ve accutaned the shit out of me if acne persisted past 25 lol",
"Call me cynical, but I think there's zero chance a kid wrote that. It's to get better tips, and keep away robbers. ",
"There's some study that says that a mother's favourite child is the oldest son and a father's favourite child is the youngest daughter. Everyone says they don't have favourites, but if you look at the parents you know, the child they're *closest* to generally matches that.",
"Do you expect him to splash out on a BMW for your uppity ass? If it's cheap to run and runs fine, why *wouldn't* he use a Hyundai?",
"That’s fake.",
"God bless them and you ❤️",
"No she only had 2 nipples -> . . ",
"Old enough to realise the error but too young to know how it's exactly these sorts of comments that make kids a joy to have around.\n\nNothing to be ashamed of. You probably made her day. ",
"Greed and hypocrisy. The party claiming to be for \"family values\" is the one backing tax breaks for the rich, cutting health care for the poor, and supporting pedophiles with the financial backing of the gun lobby. If you wrote this as dystopian fiction you'd be laughed at for being too on the nose.",
"Hey man, \n\n\nI don't know what situation you're in right now and I'm sorry you're going through all this. I don't know the hardships you go through everyday because you know that best but I want to tell you that you're an amazing person doing great work not only for your betterment but for family as well.\n\nThings will get hard, things will try to get you off your track and thins will try to stop you but don't let that get you off your game. You'll be great, you'll do amazing. Don't let anyone or anything tell you otherwise.\n\nIf you need to rant more, I'm always all open ears. \n\nYou never walk alone,\n\nR",
"Do you have any pets? Get a cat or a dog. A lot easier than a baby and you'll still understand.",
"Great for getting tips.. ",
"I got laid off from my job that I hate for 6 weeks. It was getting dire for my family as we live in a rural area and jobs are very hard to come by. My job called me back and told me that business had picked up and they needed me back. I work overnight and never see my seven year old son or wife. I am constantly tired. My son came up to me before he went to bed on my first night of work and said “I know you don’t like your job but thank you for going even though you don’t want to.” Needless to say, I hugged him and choked back tears. \n\nMy job sucks but I’m so damn happy that he at least sees I’m doing it for him and his mom. \n\n",
"I come from the countryside in ireland where you wouldnt usually see much different ethnicities and when my brother was about five he seen a black man for the first time and ran up to him in the super market and hugged him amazed and shouts to my mom.\"mammy look a chocolate man\"",
"Technically if they added some 99 cent ground beef to it, you'd have a taco. Which is a pretty decent meal.",
"The kids at Sunday school asked two of my friends when they'll get married. One of them has a huge crush on the other... ",
"Haha, I wish I did",
"Santa only brings our daughter (8) a few small things - we've told her it's because he has to carry all those gifts in his sleigh. We also make sure to give the best gifts under the tree from us - not Santa. (A brilliant suggestion from our sitters parents. \"Why should Santa get all the credit?\"). \n\nWe also celebrate Epiphany on January 6, where the 3 Magi leave her something small. its a good way to tie in faith with the holiday season, and most of the other kids don't get this second gift. She looks forward to this just as much as christmas.",
"That's a stupid excuse. Why ruin more lives? Sounds selfish and irrational to have kids if you're poor. No need to continue the cycle of poverty. We have enough people on the planet ",
"r/wholesomepics",
"Did you go to college and break the poverty cycle with a respectable career?",
"When my sister was five she wrote me a Christmas card, “I love you a lot, remember to walk straight.(my parents would always correct my posture). Don’t get mad at me for saying this.” All spelled incorrectly of course. ",
"Don't forget, you're here forever. ",
"Singapore, according to one of the commenters here.",
"I'm from Canada and they think I'm slow, eh'.",
"...I was 22. Christmas sucked that year...",
"What a father, not being there for his daughter to send them money. There is obviously more to the story as to why they all separated, but if he worked for it enough he 100% could find a better life WITH his family. Ask anyone who had a parent do something like this, they 10x over would rather have been with the parent and less materialistically fortunate than the parent be absent for a massive portion of their life.",
"😢 this post made me delete the Uber app",
"wat. All I'm saying is the alleged taxi driver chose the lifestyle himself. Without kids he wouldn't have to work that hard, only just enough to sustain himself.",
"idk about that, but it's useful to consider the implications of implementing ideas. Even if we want to go ahead with the ideas, we can be more mindful of mitigating factors and exacerbating factors. \n\nI'd be concerned about schools of thought that reject probable facts (after all, what do we know with certainty? math?) for reasons that don't necessitate rejection or are otherwise invalid. But we'd need specific examples under discssion to make sense of that. Like y'all did with forcing a parenthood test. Specific solution, specific implications, all that's left is to discuss general practices creating specific resolutions. ",
"Stfu",
"Took the train into the city for the first time. One of my kids notices a dwarf as we are laving the train and loudly exclaims: \"I saw Peter Dinklage!\"\n\n",
"ITT: Comment section is pathetic. Can’t y’all have a bit of faith that it’s real? Even if it ain’t, it’s an awesome business tactic and props to him for thinking of it. ",
"What a cool, cynical comment that some random weirdo decided to write and make public on the internet for fake Internet points.\n\nSee? I can do it, too. It isn't hard.",
"Damn these ninjas cutting onions🙄",
"Who the hell says commisserations? Your mom set him up.\n\nI just say \"Sorry for your loss, move on.\"\n\n",
"I once told my brother he \"was lucky to be alive and should have died when he was a baby!\" He couldn't have been older than 4 or 5 and I was 8 or 9. I remember being completely confused when he ran off crying to our mom. My memory doesn't serve me very well with this incident. I tried playing it off to our parents like I was complimenting him on him being lucky, but I'm sure we got in a fight playing with the neighbor kids outside.\n\nTo this day I still feel bad about saying that. I'm not sure if he remembers it, but how could he not. Toughest kid I knew. Toughest man I know. ",
"I'm from the UK and make the same \"mistake\". \nI would never use \"parking lot\" I would say garage.\n\nI combine the two words together in speech and naturally wrote them as one word since childhood.\nThe meaning is always obvious. \n(if someone smarter than me can write a sentence where it's unclear I would love to read it)\n\nThere are lots of things wrong with English spelling, as it's such a mix of different languages.\n\nAs long as you can be understood I don't really mind about \"mistakes\" like this. ",
"Sad to say I didn’t grew up like this. Dad left me and my mom before I even turn 3. Mom have a bf and just doesn’t care about me nor give me presents and would sometimes forget to greet me on my birthday. And oh she’d buy stuffs for herself and her bf before me(like louis vuitton bag, channel, etc.) and live pay day by pay day. I even have to give up my food for her bf when she told me to. Finally, I moved out of her place and find my own job and apartment. I now feel happy rather than depressed and angry all the time.\n\nI just wish I have parents like you guys, I don’t care if we’re poor or rich. As long as I have a parent who really cares and would talk to me and bond with me. But that’s life, we can’t choose the family we’re born to.",
"Omg that’s so cute!",
"Being able to participate in one of the most basic aspects of existence is a stupid excuse? I disagree. Also, it doesn't sound like /r/JustAnotherNerd1988 has had his/her life ruined. He/she seems well-adjusted and grateful, exactly what I want my child to be. ",
"Did you at least have a Xbox?",
"Lol like that’s the only fucking reason. A portion of those accidents are the pedestrians fault too. Just walking across traffic to get to their destination a couple mins faster... \n\nThe roads and driving is just terrible I’m honestly shocked the accident rates aren’t higher",
"Unless you get caught and fired, and denied unemployment. A roll of Scott 1000 toilet paper is cheap and if you stock up when they are on sale you can pay like 35 cents a roll at Target. They go on sale all the time",
"My 3 year old nephew asked me if my hair fell off my head and got stuck on my chest. ",
"Dude was around 12.",
"Young children do this a lot. Not really your fault.",
"You probably aren't wrong though people do this kinda stuff all the time ",
"I'm a 25yo dad. Became a dad at 21. I had to learn to sacrifice everything for my son because we aren't rich but it never mattered to me. The second my son was born and I cut the cord and held him he became my entire world. Its a feeling I can't begin to describe and I can only hope every man can experience in their life. You understand what love really means when you become a parent. ",
"Just a way to get more tips. If it was hidden in his wallet I would care more. ",
"Haha...perfection... I barely can stay alive...",
"Because i can ? /S",
"Like having to take a portion of your annual bonus to pay for your kids attorney fees? Because they were stupid ?\n\nI won’t forget the day we walked through the airport bringing our son home from his foster family in Washington, to us, his new family. Lots of really great things happen between those two bookends. \n\nHe definitely learned his lesson though and he’s doing very well. ",
"Bible",
"Most people don’t simply wake up and work(driving and on India’s roads...) nonstop ",
"This was beautifully written, brought tears to my eyes. One day hopefully I'll be able to experience parenthood and know what that love feels like first-hand. ",
"Fake and gay.",
"Pretty much all taxi drivers have this in poorer countries in tourist area's, or some kind of sob story. I highly suspect many of them use it to get better tips.",
">while my life is completely falling apart\n\n\"Oh you're having a small problem? Please let me completely focus on your problem and neglect all of mine\"",
"I have a dog, she is amazing and far less work and money. But I think ~~it is impossible to understand without experience~~ I can't explain it without a shared experience: it isn't even close to being the same as having a child.",
"I guess that's a bit true... I have an older brother and a younger sister (yay middle child!). Guess who lives halfway across the globe from them?\n\nI love them all, but do I feel connected/super close to them, and as deep as they do to each other? Not really... To \ntheir credit though, I think they're trying harder to get close to me now.",
"What's up mate? ",
"> He knocks on the door, my neighbour answers all bleary-eyed and he looks her dead in the eyes and says: \"Sorry for your loss, move on.\"\n\n",
"It wouldn't work cos it's \"her\".",
"http://i.imgur.com/7MkgTGT.jpg\n\nThe photo of the driver, like this shot from The Simpsons, hits me right in the feels every time.",
":') ",
"Were they like, no we're poor as fuck! *Deafening silence*",
"Same my dad never hugged me with love except when I left home ",
"Yeah I had a nightmare last night in which my dad savagely beat me like he used to when I was a child.",
"How could an Uber driver go into a taxi queue?",
"I dreaded the same question this past Christmas.... Thankfully my 6 yo daughter was super excited about her new shoes and alarm clock, and never even asked. We do the best we can. Don't stress it.",
"Its just too much I fear... I go to the therapist, I don't know what to say, what questions to ask to get better. I live day to day life, I don't know what to do to improve my life. Everything I do think of I try, never turns out the way I envisioned, its always more energy than the result is worth. I'm inefficient, directionless. My dad never went to college so I'm 100% on my own as far as that goes. I'm just lost and scared man... I'm afraid I'm gonna waste my life away and always be regretful. \n\nEdit: Downvotes...I'm not surprised...",
"And you felt compelled to leave an higher than usual tip, I’m certain.",
"As much as I hope this is genuine, I've seen so much ugly in the world that my first thought was \"trying to get them tips\".",
"Get out ",
"And yet here you are.",
"When you hold your child in your arms for the first time you'll know just how it feels. It's just one of those things that changes you.",
"Have you even seen Van Wilder? In the beginning they’re having a party and Van’s Dad shows up to cut him off and at the end of the scene says “sometimes in life you have to recognize a poor investment... and cut your losses.” That scene has made me cry more times than I care to admit. Seriously, cheesy ass Van Wilder making a grown man cry. The thought of disappointing my parents and more directly my father is a driving factor in my life and I would imagine many others. I hope my story ends as well as the movie, with my dad believing in me as by far the best investment he’s ever made.\n\nWrite that down.",
"Shit, I'm overjoyed when my dog flips Shit when I unlock the door even if iv only been gone twenty minutes.",
"The pic is from Singapore. They don't have a tipping culture there.",
"It is in countries where most jobs involve manual labor.",
"I'm STILL convinced it's a Hyundai add. I've got it bad.\n\nr/hailcorporate has infested everything for me.\n\nEDIT: you can't downvote reality Hyundai",
"LOL\n\nMy little brother and I have different fathers. Mine's white and his is black. (Mom's white.) When he was born, the first thing I asked was \"What color is he?\" I thought it would be random, like flipping a coin.",
"I like how this is not political. ",
"Texas. They're in WalMart and Target here.",
"This is actually from Singapore. Came out in the local news awhile ago. ",
"As I responded to the other guy, its just too much I fear... I go to the therapist, I don't know what to say, what questions to ask to get better. I live day to day life, I don't know what to do to improve my life. Everything I do think of I try, never turns out the way I envisioned, its always more energy than the result is worth. I'm inefficient, directionless. My dad never went to college so I'm 100% on my own as far as that goes. I'm just lost and scared man... I'm afraid I'm gonna waste my life away and always be regretful. \n\n",
"Is his dad [Sean Duffy](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/gop-rep-i-m-struggling-on-my-174k-salary-video)?",
"No, my son is also named Bort.",
"Freedom for those who are inside it. Do you understand how states work? You do realize that the USA is only responsible for the freedom of its own people, right?",
"For a second I was hoping to find a secret message in the colors ",
"We don’t forget, we take it for granted. \n\nThat’s what he’s doing so *you* have a life with better employment prospects, and aren’t burdened by student debt. \n\nYou aren’t entitled to it. He feels you deserve it. \nKeep that in mind when you start living your own, independent life. Do what you can to repay him.",
"If I worked in service, I’d hang something like that too. ",
"My 4-year-old regularly asks my husband if he has a baby in his belly. ",
"Mah man;\n\nI don't not sleep because I think I don't need it. That post was me acknowledging that I know I need to sleep, but my internal dialogue is that it's a waste of time.\n\nNot saying its a good thing. I'm saying that it's a shitty thing that I fight regularly.\n",
"For sure. I'm trying to make a more conscious effort to fall asleep at a better time.\n",
"beautiful",
"I suppose an \"/s\" was warranted on the last comment, then. Lol. Im well aware of the story.",
"This reminds me of the Ben Rector song The Men That Drive Me Places. Some sweet lyrics if you ever get the chance to listen to it. ",
"Next to sex, drugs is probably the biggest and oldest trade.",
"You can be greatful for effort X, and still resent situation Y that's connected to X. Those emotions aren't mutually exclusive in that situation. Unless you're a sociopath or a robot I guess.",
"I never really understood either until my daughter was born. Seeing that little being that can't do anything on her own, being scared of almost everyone she saw (except me and my wife) and in your arm they get very close and are confident enough to get to sleep, it hits hard on the feelings side. And then growing up, they do everything to make you hate them but in the end, they always find a way to make your heart melt.\n\nMy whole perception about kids changed the day she was born (and even a little while my wife was pregnant). Before when I was reading/listening to news about kids being beaten/killed I always thought that it was really bad but no real other feelings. But now, as soon as I hear a story like this, I immediatly start feeling how helpless that kid must have felt and how the adult beating them was a pure piece of shit seeing the defenseless child only trying to get help to survive and that world and still abuse him. I now get instantly full of rage/hate/sadness.\n\nThe whole world changes after getting kids, don't worry you are normal now not understanding this!",
"wait a second",
"That woosh was the joke flying over head.",
"Agreed, you gotta use the trap to get out the trap. Everybody has a hustle nowdays, no shame.",
"Even right after my first child was born I didn't understand it. I felt kind of bad because everyone says they have this life changing feeling right away and I felt mostly nothing. I don't even know when it happened but now they are the world, the only thing that matters",
"But lots of people don't like their parents all that much. While I love my parents, it is and never was no where near as strong to make up for the misery of a full time job that stresses me out... Much less that I have to pay for. ",
"Agree. I saved first 20 odd cards/gifts made by my daughter. Then she started making stuff every week, so...",
"Thank you 😂",
"He would be happy to know you care so much about him. He might just be trying to give you space, and let you learn from your mistakes. Just give it your best, and the most important thing is to love and care.",
"Thanks man, I'm trying. Sometimes it feels like 1 step forward 2 back, but I ain't done fighting, I've came too far to quit now.",
"Screw my dad.",
"To be fair, your theory was pretty much the truth",
"Sigh ",
"Thanks! I wish you good luck with life and whatever endevers too,",
"I only get to see my dad once a week. Just a few hours in fact. Even with him being so busy with work, he doesn't seem to \"bring home much grub\". I don't know where his money goes or what but all I know is that I'm healthy, I go to school, and have just enough. This makes me feel self-centered. Even if my dad has never really been in the pictures of my achievements, I wanna thank him for working really hard in the shadows. ",
"Lmao. Yeah, I just didn’t understand because the play was based around the Middle East and I was the main character. So I didn’t get how I could have two parents of different backgrounds and be the ethnicity I was in the play. ",
"This guy anals.",
"Im 27 and I don't want kids, but I'd be lying if even for a second your post didn't make me question my choice.",
"I’m not crying YOU’RE crying.",
"It takes effort. Change yourself before it's too late. ",
"Flanderization",
"It’s a set up for you to see and have sympathy for a working father. He’s really single and just milking the “father angle” for extra tips.",
"\"Dear daddy, thanks for working 60+ hours a week for us. It really sucks how our society cares nothing about the working class and favors profit over everything else, in a way dehumanizing us all. It sure would be nice to see you, dad, but it's hard when you only get 3 hours of PTO a month.\"",
"Great strategy for extra tips!",
"When you become a parent, you will know. ",
"I'm not crying you are",
"Damn I never thought of it like that, bit that's a really good way to think about it. Thanks for saying that and kinda opening my eyes to that.",
"Every thought in your head centers around, \"what can I do to make this tiny person's life better?\" It's really impossible to understand until you experience. But I think reading this comes real close.",
"Too much lip service. We are what we do not what we say. Therapy is a tool, but it won't do the hard things for you. You know what needs done, so go it and quit making excuses. Make your dad proud now. ",
"I bought my dad a better pillow to help his neck, found it all dusty in a closet 2 months later ",
"Nice tip multiplier ",
"I asked my great aunt if she got spayed after she had a hysterectomy ",
"It’s a common trick to get people to tip more.",
"Honestly, it never crossed my mind. To kid me, it just meant my parents were making sure other kids got presents too. ",
"When I was six, I made my dad a heart out of Perler Beads that he still drives around with in his work truck. (Almost 30 years later.) It's sun faded on one side from sitting perched on his dashboard for so long, but it means so much to him and that means so much to me. ",
"100%.\n\nMy younger sister had two girls before I had my first child and she told me there's nothing like it. I remember her saying, \"Think of how much you loved Jean (my grandma) and multiply it by a thousand.\"\n\n\"Yeah, right. No fucking way.\"\n\nI cried when I found out my wife was pregnant. (I came from a severely dysfunctional family. Never knew my father. I always wanted kids and to have a family of my own that wasn't mired in drugs, abuse, etc.)\n\nWhen my son was born it was a goddamned nuclear detonation of pure, hard-wired love. It also makes you feel vulnerable as shit. If someone breaks in my house, I can go after them to protect my kid. What can I do against cancer, though? Or leukemia? Brain tumors? Processing your child's mortality is tough as hell to reconcile with how much you love them. I don't think it is ultimately possible, but we achieve a functional approximation, I guess.\n\nAnd something else. Art affects you on a different level once you become a parent. I read Cormac McCarthy's \"The Road\" shortly after the birth of my son and I struggled mightily not to cry imagining being in that situation with my boy.\n\nBest thing that ever happened to me, having my kids. Changes the fuck out of your world.",
"Username checks out.",
"As a Dad who works long hours this melts my heart. ",
"It has been tried numerous times.",
"Nice tip has been given I presume?",
"I asked my grandma if old people get wrinkles cuz hell is trying harder to drag them down ",
"That guy probably get twice as many tips as other cabbies.",
"Good thing too. Be sad for the Alot monster to get his kid so early in life. ",
"> He knocks on the door, my neighbour answers all bleary-eyed and he looks her dead in the eyes and says: \"I'm disabled\"",
"This was spot on on",
"Came here looking for this.",
"Wish there was more of this stuff on the sub rather than political commentary",
"He probably just wants you to be happy",
"Lmao “I own a business” and your biggets worry is toilet paper? Sit down guy.",
"Uber all the way! Fuck Taxi drivers",
"DO IT FOR HER",
"He didn't grow up that poor then. Probably lower middle class. You seem to be one of those Mama bears who can't think rationally like most adults so I'll end it here. No point in trying to reason with someone who likes to lie to herself about the \"joys of childhood\" when I'm trying to explain how most kids don't enjoy growing up poor and being mocked for it. I bet you grew up in a well off family so you'll never understand",
"I never understood it until I had my daughter. Now, everything is for her. The self doubt and loathing never really go away but you deal with it to be the best for them.",
"As father of a daughter too, I can’t agree more with everything you said. Wish the best for you and your daughter!",
"You took the spelling advice though hahahaha",
"My ex had a picture of our kid in his cab to increase his tips.",
"Oh man this is all the perfect amount of back ground character building for a movie before they kill that person off. Sorry /u/atmylevel but im stealin this.",
"You have somehow summed up the feeling of a parent... This is all very very true... If I had gold I would give it to you..",
"You probably meant to put the end quotes after the word loss, but holy shit that's funny.",
"If all you are to your child is a \"provider\". You frame yourself as \"money source\". It's not the kids fault.\n\nSome parents have no choice and have my absolute sympathy, but in all those 90s movies it was a really successful businessman father who could chose to take time off without a problem.\n\nNow we have more gender equality in the workplace, it's both parents working and not there for the kids. So movies don't play on the \"absent dad\" angle as much. Things are worse now, not better.",
"Thanks for the words of encouragment I really appreciate it. I agree with ya, I just gotta keep putting in the work and it'll keep getting better.",
"At 25 I thought the same, now I’m the other side of 30 and couldn’t imagine life without my daughters. Shit changes you.",
"My brothers and I had a running joke that was pretty much that. We knew we were poor, so we would ask or mom, \"We PO', Mama!?\"",
"If your dad loves you he just wants you to be happy. Try to focus on yourself rather than your dad and you might get 'em both! The artificial accomplishments are just how your dad thinks you will find your happiness. It doesn't mean he's right and you're wrong for not checking those boxes.",
"May the Lord open",
"I bet he was delighted.\n\nMeanwhile, I really don’t want to think back on the things I said to Black people as a tot. Cringetacular.",
"Thanks bro, I can make it up out the hole and even up beyond that.",
">I was about to guild\n\nOh I'm sure you were about to do that. I was about to go volunteer at the soup kitchen",
"i was the same up until a year ago.. now 33, i just had a son and everything in that post is 100% accurate..",
"Well you made my Sunday extra funny so good job you!",
"Oh so true",
"Staying alive and happy is really the best you could do for your pops.\n\nWhat else would they want for you but to live well? So just do things that make you happy, go from there.",
"That's too bad. I'd rather have my father in my life than a fucking violin lesson.",
"Umm...a parking lot (or, rather, a car park, as it's called here) is not even remotely the same thing as a garage, though? Calling it a garage is just flat out wrong. It'd be like calling your front yard a hiking trail.",
"Keep reading, it's here.",
"Don’t* bahahahahahha!",
"I agree. I would never treat my cousins any differemt just cuz they accidentally ask some hard hitting questions. They dont even know better and I'm not that sensitive. Its just sometimes I'm not ready for those kimda questions out of the blue and how to answer them in kid terms and it catches me off guard, thats all.",
"Yeah it brings in the tips from the saps. ^",
"Funny, I would have probably said \"Yes, but we're rich with love\" then give a big hug.",
"Exactly this. A parent just wants their child to be happy. To have a life that they enjoy. So aim for your own happiness. It would be mind bogglingly difficult for my children to ever disappoint me. ",
"Unfortunately I wasn’t given accutane until last year after insisting on it.\n\nI was told at the age of 13 it will pass at 20, then told it should pass at 25 and finally 30.\n\nDon’t get me wrong, I’ve not “suffered” with it exactly for the last 10 years, antibiotics have helped, I’m nearing the end of accutane now, it’s transformed my skin, I do wish I’d pushed for it earlier on in life though. It was decided by my doctor that my acne wasn’t serious enough to consider accutane - I move doctors and haven’t looked back since.",
"I’m a grown ass 31 year old man and I just choked back tears man. My wife and I bought our first house (for both of us) 8 months ago and got married 6 months ago and are talking about starting a family next year. I’m already working one job plus a few extra weekend and evening jobs to make sure we got the money saved. \n\nReading your comment made me want to have a moment like yours. ",
"I hope he doesn't lose his job to automation. ",
"That’s Facebook shitpost material if I’ve ever seen it. ",
"Before he was turned into Peter Griffin*",
"Ironic that they named the trope after his neighbor",
"yeah. I think to my childhood, and the house i lived in, and my mum not having to work, yet us still getting a good holiday in a few times a year. I now look at people in my family with children, both of them in jobs that are \"good\" jobs, but they both need to work to pay for the house, they both need to work to raise there children.\nAnd the strange catch 22 situation of people having to work to pay for there child minder, but the only reason they have a child minder is becuse they are at work.",
" I hear you, thanks for say in all that, things will get better it just takes time and effort. ",
"I don't think it's impossible to understand without experience, I think that's just something that's said to people on Reddit who are very anti-children, because it's usually true. But I've wanted kids my entire life, and I'm pretty sure I can understand unconditional love and support without actually having had children. ",
"Welcome :) you totally can!\n\nSidenote: this is the first time I've ever been called \"bro\" haha. ",
"Dude fuck you",
"I'll be 40 this year. I have fucked up almost everything in my life to some degree and I'd have to say overall I feel like a disappointment. Sometimes I find it hard to look my family members in the eye after all the stupid, stupid, stupid shit I have done.\n\nBut I have my own young kids and all I really want for them in life is to be happy, healthy, and not hurt themselves. If they fuck up, does it really matter? Hopefully it can be a life lesson and everyone can move on.\n\nAnd I think that's all my parents, and probably your dad, really want. I have made a lot of life changes over the last couple years and I am trying to be..... better. And most days I feel like I am. \n\nYou can do the same, hang in there!",
"I had an agriculture subject when I was in like 4th grade. We had to color in and cur out farm animals or something. I colored in a cow and added a cape to it. Called or super cow and gave it to my dad. \n\nI thought nothing of it for roughly twelve years until i saw it hanging in our garage suddenly, laminated. \n\nHe kept it in his work van until he stopped working at his job recently, but he made sure to keep super cow hanging somewhere he could see it. \n\nIts a little thing, but has a 21 year old now, it got me good. ",
"Glad to have a different experience. My mother left all of my letters and drawings in an old binder. She doesn't go back to it often but I'm glad she kept it. ",
"Where did I say it was my \"biggest concern\"? I own a business with 6 people, I'm not General Electric over here. Sure I'm not worried about toilet paper, it is a small expense, but I DO care about people thinking it's ok to steal from me in general.\n\nAppearntly you advocate theft if the victim has other things to worry about. You are the asshole, not I.",
"Wow the cousins I'm talk bout are like 5, not 29. She is grown asf and should know better",
"I hadn't considered that they might be children. You would be surprised at how a person old enough to know better can come out with one of those zingers! It happened to me several times with a friend who was staying at my apartment during a visit to my hometown. \n\nWow, did it sting. And when she comes to the city now she stays someplace else. \nv/",
"Don’t worry some of us can love non-children unconditionally too.\n\nIt’s beautiful and you don’t have to share DNA with someone to love them that deeply.\n\nFor me it happened at 37 and now I can extend that same depth oflove to several people. You just have to find it in yourself. ",
"We have a dog and a kid, for me there is no comparison. I love my dog very much, but it's conditional, while the love for my daughter is not. \nIf the dog were to bite my daughter for whatever reason he is gone. She knows this, so learned quick not to antagonize him, but he is still an animal with animal instincts. ",
"A friend of mine went to Cambodia and tried to bring a hooker back to his hotel on a bike, her sitting on the back, only he was plastered and they kept wiping out. The girl has had just about enough of these shenanigans, when a motorcycle pulls up. She hops off the bicycle, gets on the motorcycle, and speeds off. Friend is left alone wasted with a fucked up bike and no hooker.",
"Lol that's cool bro, have a great day",
"If you really want to log everything, if heard there are apps (artkive I think?) that will help you with that. I've also heard that people will select the best from an entire year and make a shutterfly photo book out of them.",
"A face full of tears is not how I wanted to wake up.",
"You too! ",
"I love it when children appreciate all you do for them. We want them to get a good education so they can do better than us and not have to struggle in a dead-end career. My daughter was the first in our family to graduate from university and is enjoying the fruits of our and hers hard work.",
"Mission accomplished. RIP.",
"I would love to live in your world. Typos made on a 2in keyboard are so entertaining!",
"Sorry for offending you by not using google",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKOrr4XRbg8",
"Bitcc ",
"I love my dad too. ",
"I left a lucrative IT job in corporate America to take a position in higher education doing, well, nearly the same thing, for a little more than half the salary. Why? Because I found that my calling in life is to teach others. Working at a state university allows me to have a staff made up almost entirely of student assistants, whom I can mentor, watch graduate, and become their own success stories.",
"You would be surprised how much you are willing to sacrifice. \n\nThere is also a fine line to all that love and it could go awry, where you love them so much and want to protect them that you don't let them make mistakes and become a proper adult. \n\nThere are also people who never form that bond with their kids. Addiction can often compete and win out for that love, so it's not a guarantee. We've all probably known someone who had a shitty upbringing and not a lot of love at home. ",
"Driving after being awake 24 hours is equivalent to driving under the influence above the legal limit.\n\nIt sucks they have such poor working conditions.",
"My biggest fear if I ever have kids. The first time I ever saw my dad cry was him telling my sister and I that my brother had cancer. Months of my brother tormenting at night. Screaming from pain and the doctors having no answers. I remember him grabbing me in my sleeping gasping for air. I would run to the other end of the house yelling for my parents to get up. My brother went through treatment and is fine today, but it scarred my dad deep down. It’s been 20 years, but every time a commercial comes on about cancer he changes the channel. Every time he hears a cough (my brothers cancer caused a lot of fluid in his lungs), he walks away. My dad is a strong man, but seeing him so weak when it comes to sick children....I don’t know if I could physically bear the pain of something like that. That’s why I’m still on the fence about having children.",
"This was a note from a child to the taxi/cab driver father. Taxi drivers clock long hours behind the wheel. \n\nThis was in Singapore",
"I didn't understand it until I had kids",
"Do you really think our culture has changed so drastically that we can no longer survive without a slave class to do our menial jobs for us? ",
"What makes this more special and genuine is that it’s hanging in a conspicuous place. It’s not hanging up high so his passengers can see (like the car salesperson who has their family photos perfectly placed in front of the customer).",
"Looks like a right hand drive vehicle in what could be an English speaking country (UK, Aus, NZ).\n\nThose countries do not have a tipping culture. ",
"Couldn't have said it better. I only have an 11 month old but I can't even describe how happy her little smiles and giggles makes me. Even at 4 up when I have to get up to breastfeed her and I am half asleep when I get that tiny smile it is so worth it. I can't wait til she becomes a little walking talking person.",
"It's strange. I was bricking it at becoming a dad, as OP mentioned, everything you do needs to keep that child alive, and I barely look after myself as it is. \n\nThen when they are born, it's like a primordial switch, you just... get on with it as though you've been doing it for years. \n\nThe most surprising factor I've found is the 'dad reflexes'. I'm known within my circle of friends to have next to useless balance, but since little one came along, I've been in situations where I've had to catch them, what they were pulling off the side, the cat (as it randomly gets in the way like they do) and that precious ornament that was put up so far out the way that you'd never think anyone could reach it, all at once, and not even know how you even noticed it was all going down. ",
"I saw it so it isn't buried ",
"I'm also a helpless pink thing, can you be my dad? ",
"I’ve been able to experience the exact love you describe over the last 2 years since I gave birth to my son, and you articulated it in such a beautifully accurate way. This is the most dead on description I’ve read to define a parents love. Thank you. ",
"When I was a kid we had family friends who were rich and would get literally a whole room full of presents from Santa. When I asked my parents about the difference my mom said it was because Santa compensated children that did not have family happiness. That completely made sense to me because my friends’ parents fought all the time and the dad was kind of violent. She told me not to tell them about it though so they wouldn’t feel bad. I don’t know if it was the right thing for my mom to tell me but it did work. I remember being in the present room and looking at all of it and thinking I would never in a million years trade all of that for the happiness and harmony we had at home. ",
"I thought so too! Kids are assholes",
"daddy, you working. hard us. Love a Love\n\nOr alternately\n\nDear Thank for So for I you lot Resi.",
"What did he say?",
"Love it. ",
"S06e13 i think",
"I was the same way until we got a cat a few years ago. It may not be a human but I love that little shit so much it hurts, even when she literally hurts me",
"I fucked up a lot when I was younger and was surely a constant disappointment to my parents. I attempted suicide when I was 15 and was put into a youth psych ward thing. I did a lot of (hard) drugs. Got kicked out of high school. Then one day, when I was 20 or 21, I decided this is not what I wanted for myself or my parents who worked their ass off to provide for me and my brother both financially and emotionally. I moved away (to get away from the drug influences), enrolled in community college, got a part time job, and made some new friends. And now, 15 years later, I can proudly say I have a great, high paying job with colleagues that I love, I have an amazing boyfriend that is everything I could ever ask for in a partner, I just bought an apartment in New York City, and I have a great relationship with my parents. In fact, this year, we've encouraged them to stop working so they can finally relax while my boyfriend and I cover their major bills. \n\nAll to say... your current situation says nothing about what your future holds. You have the right mindset. Just go do it. Make a small change. And then another small change. And then another. You got this. ",
"I actually did that once.\n\nFelt so bad I actually returned all their shit.",
"I hate myself for originally reading it as, “Damn daddy”",
"there are people in other parts of the world than uk aus and nz ",
">his\n\nGood one.",
"I could NOT have put that more eloquently. My kids are my life and I never ever thought I’d say that. I was 31 when my eldest (now 18) was born and the second I saw him I felt something huge just erupt inside me. I knew I’d never allow anyone or anything hurt him. And it was the same with his siblings. You don’t love them less you just grow more love inside you. My eldest has ADHD and as a child he was incredibly challenging but as a young man he’s a joy. I always scoffed at people who spoke in glowing terms about how much they loved their kids and you just don’t ‘get’ it till you have your own. I understand that some people just don’t want kids for whatever reason but a part of me always feels that they’re going to miss out on something so wonderful that it can’t be described. ",
"Yes, normal. I don't think children are everything. I have a child I adore and love and worry about but before I loved my husband deeply and crazily so I felt that way before kids and still do. I sometimes wonder if people who say \"I've never felt love like this\" don't have that deep of a connection with their partners, and obiously true for those who had one night stands or break up with their boyfriends etc. ",
"Yeah, if I kept every \"I love you daddy\" note my kid made I would need a separate room to store them in. Wow, I started writing this to say how kids write a ton of notes and stuff but halfway through I just feel super happy and lucky to have such a great kid and I'm kinda tearing up. ",
"It's normal. Especially in our time. People are becoming so detached from reality they truly don't understand what is important anymore.",
"Countries with Rhd vehicles, English speaking and have a tipping culture?\n\nName one. ",
"I can't imagine what you felt when you read those letters so many years later. It's making me tear up. Your parents did an incredible job. ",
"Until now. Take him away, boys.",
"You learn to love yourself more when you're able to love others",
"Small steps.",
"My dad use to travel a lot for work. When I was 21 he took me on one of his business trips to Philly. We were grabbing a beer at a cool hipster bar when he pulls a small piece of worn paper with some scribbles on it from his wallet. He told meme I gave it to him when I was about 2 and told him to keep it and know that I loved him when he was away. \n\nIt was tough not to choke up in public",
"This is Singapore",
"Uh... Aussie here and you're replying to a reply for my comment.\n\nTaxi drivers get tips. They might not rely on them like the US or whatever, but they definitely get and angle for tips.\n\nSaying that, this isn't an Aussie taxi. Uber maybe? But not taxi",
"When my friend's nephew found out about pregnancy he ran up to every fat woman he saw in public proudly declaring they had a baby in their tummy.",
"I'm reminded of the study that said if you have a kids picture in a wallet there's a better chance of it being returned intact. There was a spate of articles that gave the LPT of putting a kids photo in your wallet even if you had none. ",
"Oook I’m a blubbering mess now. Recently pregnant for the first time (with twins!) and I’m constantly terrified. Your post made me feel excitement and anticipation for one of the first times. ",
"It wasn’t a very good joke, sorry. ",
"Do it for her",
"I told everyone at school my dad was super rich because I saw a $100 bill in his wallet once. We were probably in a similar situation to OP at the time",
"This is beautiful. Thank you so much.",
"It *sounds* really condescending when people say to folks without kids \"you won't understand until you have kids\" but there is actually a lot of truth to it. I think the same thing happens to a degree with pets.\nWhen you care for someone/something that is completely innocent and relies on you for it's well-being, you create this crazy bond.\n\nThat kind of thing just doesn't exist in any other kind of relationship, so it's really hard to imagine - rightly so, you've never had the conditions for something like that",
"Fuck man",
"Not that I'm wanting to at all, but genuinely curious, could you get around that be explicitly saying X gets £€¥$¢, y gets £€¥$ and spouse gets what's left",
"Thanks OP for this pic. This man’s kid gets it and apparently is one of the inspirational things that keeps him working for his family! ",
"my dad was a fake invalid and never wanted to work a day in his life even tho he had had three children. when i was a child I told him I wanted to become a magistrate. He laughed so hard at me and told me that to become a magistrate you need university studies and that poor people like us can never afford university. So I told him that maybe he should work for his family so we could afford a decent life. He hit me on the face with such violence that he broke my glasses. \n\ngod bless the fathers (and mothers) that work hard to grant their children a better life than they had. ",
"Ain’t that the truth",
"This is the best description of having kids I've seen! I didn't have a clue as to what true love is until I saw my daughter. The feeling that washes over you in that instant is every emotion you ever had at once. Could take you to your knees. I love her truly and unconditionally. Kids are work, they can be ingrates, they're a massive responsibility and they're also the greatest gift and joy you can know. I'm gonna go hug mine now.",
"Jesus christ i thought i was the only muppet with that kinda thought process. Though i didn't cry when my daughter was born. ",
"He's just hoping people will see that and decide not to rob him",
"I’d give him my wallet",
"Drugs inc was fake as hell",
"Well, why did she have no boobies?",
"Lol yeah. I mean the cabs here are garbage so I never take them (they deliberately take a long route, pretend to be lost, etc so your fare is more than it needs to be).",
"When my daughter was 3 she got burned on her arm pretty bad. We had to take her down to the hospital, and as we were checking in, and elderly lady was being wheeled out in a wheel chair. She was probably 90, and had the classic old lady disheveled makeup on.My daughter walks right up to her and asks, why do you look like a zombie? I simultaneously crapped myself and cracked up.",
"Right there with you. Did not want a kid at all during my 20s. Things changed in early 30s. ",
"Drugs? We got drugs for that, too! ",
"I had severe acne for 11 years, and there were a couple times that children would be like, “what’s wrong with your face?” Man, that hurt a lot, but at the same time, they’re kids, so they don’t know any better. \n\nThank god for Accutane. ",
"That was the most beautiful thing I’ve ever read. I have goosebumps.\n\nI’m a 26 year old woman and a few years ago I decided that children might now be for me. Reading this is the first time I’ve ever felt like I might be missing out on something. ",
"It’s okay. I knew years ago that kids aren’t my thing. All I want out of a relationship is someone to understand that and want to live that sweet double income no kids lifestyle. \n",
"A photograph made, not using chemicals such as silver nitrate on film or glass, but rather combining a semiconductor light sensor with computer processing in order to create, edit, present, transmit, and store images.\n\nOr maybe if I do a crayon representation of a Matrix-like vertical scrolling wall of ones and zeros.",
"I asked my big sister how much did she weight (I was 8 and she was 23 years old), then she told me, and I grinned. I saw her last time when I was 15 and it was 18 years ago. I heard the reason why she hasn't seen me a few years back and it was that I shouldn't have smiled at her when I heard her weight. (I don't even remember asking her, and probably had no idea what that number meant) ",
"Go tell them how much Christmas meant to you, and how thankful you are right fucking now.",
"Just texted my mom I love her because of this comment ",
"This guy ladyboys.",
"Yeah, I can barely look after myself but I have 2 kids and they are everything to me. Literally the last thing I think about when I go to sleep and the first thing when I wake up (usually because one of them has their face an inch away from mine). It sounds patronising, but I really don't mean it to be, when I say it's like nothing you can imagine. At least, it wasn't for me.\n\n Same with going from 1 kid to 2, wife and I both said we cant imagine loving something else this much, but you make heart-room for them.",
"Ehhh, it sounds good until you actually sit down to make the two-ply paper out of a couple rolls and it takes like all night. It never looks as good as the store-bought either. ",
"I wonder if all the dad's brag about it at work. They probably hold competitions to see who has the better child. ",
"I won't tell you to change, because that's so easy to say but sometimes it feels really impossible to do. But I would urge you to find a way to talk to him. It sounded to me like if he's asking less of you, and getting less upset about things (your mistakes, I'm assuming) it's possibly because he sees that you're overwhelmed. He's your dad. He loves you, and he hurts to see you in pain. Try opening up to him, and see what happens.",
"plot twist: he wrote that himself to get more tips.",
"I am pathologically non-confrontational in person, but if you look at my kids funny, i will fucking cut you. Well, I'll glare a lot.",
">I find it is much easier to pour your love and effort if it is for someone else’s benefit rather than my own.\n\nI am the same way but I think it is more from self-loathing than altruistic motives. Trust me, I've good reasons to hold a grudge.",
"A lot of people already gave you advice here. Just remember to always tell him you love him. We never realize how much time we have with our loved ones...",
"If I was rich I would invest in changing peoples lives. Even try and retire a few people.",
"Half expected the red words to make a kinky message when I saw the word Daddy and hard both bolded. ",
"Your kids are just an extension of yourself, except you don't see any of their flaws",
"I really didn’t want kids (I am a female ). Never envisioned my life with a kid Got married and decided on maybe 1 kid Wow it changed my whole view in kids. I went in to have 1 more. I did lose a third pregnancy (mid way through pregnancy). We are done having kids now. But I also never knew love until I had my kids ",
"OTH I don't think I've ever seen that side of a taxi before unless maybe the driver's on the right?",
"How? I feel like my dad can see my flaws...",
"Plot twist: OP has no kids and has multiple personality syndrome. ",
"My god I didn't expect to cry this morning.",
"Cynical me would assume it’s fake for extra tips. ",
"This made me cry",
"Unfortunately, I've always kept to myself, I never really learned how to talk to people. I don't know how to do it. I'm screwed I feel..",
"I'M NOT CRYING, YOU'RE CRYING",
"Fuuuuck kids say the dopest shit, this letter makes it worth a shitty boss or job",
"Thank you, that means a lot. And yes, reading those letters the first time was pretty devastating. It put in stark relief just how close to the edge they were and the stress and pressure they felt, and I'd never realized. I spent so much time in dingy bars and dives while my dad tried gamely to fix their torn stool covers and bar rails... and seeing the same place over and over as the repairs failed again and again. Just heartbreaking.",
"Yeah, I just feel like the world is swallowing me up..",
"Spot on and well said!",
"'Survive?' Don't be dramatic. Preferring not to do certain jobs and being unable / unwilling to do them if one must are not the same thing.",
"I'm 24 and I don't get it either.",
"Gee I wonder if the cabby is trolling for tips?",
"Do you think that if you'd started in teaching, you would have eventually chomped at the bit because you wanted to switch to corporate? It has its allure.",
"Believe it or not, when I had a kid and suddenly cared about him more than me, it was super freeing! Highly recommend it even if you do like Big Brother or volunteer or just focus on being a good friend/etc. Parenthood is like bootcamp for this, forces you into this state of mind, but anyone can get to that place!",
"that wasn't my point ",
"Joke on you, I had to.\n\nI choose to stay with my kids as the time you are not there, will never be given back. \n\nWe struggled for a while while I had to eat shit and smile but after a long time I managed to pull through.\n\nThings are not perfect now but at least I didn't had to separate me and my kids.\n\nI'm not judging him (while other are clearly doing with me). That guy could have had only this option, more like trying to show a different point of view, but of course I always forget that this is Reddit.",
"It's like having a migraine that you're only cool with getting rid of for short stints at a time, and still call to check up on. \"My migraine good?\" \"Yeah, best behaved one here!\" \n\nWhy can't they behave like that at home!? Edit* Spelling.",
"Your story confirms my hunch that he's the type of parent who drills it into their kid's head that they are undergoing some exhausting, Sisyphean task when they go to work each day. The kid can only express it as, \"Daddy works so hard for us,\" because their vocabulary and grasp of the language is still in development, but the kid probably has heard it endlessly and I am suspecting may have developed some sort of a sense of guilt or something for him/her to go to the lengths to make this sort of appreciation letter. When's the last time you heard of a kid writing a thank you note to their parent(s) for having a job? Like another commenter wrote, putting it on display like this also comes off as attempting to cash in on the kid's letter.",
"I can’t wait to experience that feeling! ",
"It’s from his hooker.",
"MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW\n\nI need to go outside (4)\n\n...\n\nI need to go back inside (1)\n\nMEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW",
"My dad did the same thing. Made a lateral move in terms of job title and responsibilities but with a pretty substantial pay cut. He's worked his way up even higher to be the CIO of the university and is now making as much as he was on the corporate side, but he's much much happier and fulfilled than he ever was in corporate. ",
"Any chances that's just to get more tips?",
"3 dogs, 1 cat, 1 kid...all who I SINCERELY LOVE. But... I'd eat the dogs and cat if there was an end of the world scenario. I'd die before I'd let my kid starve. Big difference!",
"Has anyone ever looked at you like you were everything? Not just love, and happiness, but pure survival as well? Anyway, yeah, its normal. Until you experience it first hand, its just nearly impossible to truly get.\n\nI know that sounds like some super-cliched parenty stuff to say, but its true. I didn't get it either, until we had our girls.\n\nI can still barely handle loving myself...but my kids? Easiest thing in the world, even when they ARE headaches!\n\nEdit* Wanted to add, that biological clock thing? I'm pretty sure its real. I'm 34, have three kids. Recently I've noticed myself \"noticing\" babies more, noticing pastel blues and pinks, seeing pictures of cute nursery rooms and thinking \"Oh, well that looks nice\". I held a friend's baby, and when it was time to give the baby back, my arms felt empty and it made me sad. I realized that it must be my internal clock telling me that now is the time for a child if I ever want to have more. I don't...I'm happy with my 3....but my instincts say otherwise. It's a really odd feeling.",
"You have helped remind me not to take my parents for granted. I don't think I do, but I WILL call more. \n\n\"Stockholm syndrome\" !",
"I guess it's more more like you look past their flaws. Is your dad is seeing your flaws and trying to help you correct them? I want my son to have the world as his oyster, so I will try to teach him everything I have learned. also he is only 2 so he has no flaws yet( this obviously doesn't apply to all patents)",
"*slow claps*\n\nHere's some gold man.",
"Call me a cynic, but this could definitely be a ploy to get better tips. ",
"I grew up resenting my parents for being poor. I had jeans with patches in the knee, we were in and out of homeless shelters, and always moving. I blamed them when other kids at school made fun of me. As I became an adult I realized that my father had undiagnosed mental illness but he passed away before I could reconcile anything.",
"> But when my daughter was born I found a whole new level, one that makes me question if I even knew what love was before. Now I know biology does shit to make us love our kids and stuff, but wow, when you realize that squirmy screamy helpless pink thing is yours, if changes everything. It's a different kind of love, one where you expect nothing back, but give everything.\n\nDamn, you put that into words so well! It's an incredible feeling and experience that I could never, ever have imagined if I hadn't had a kid. And then to watch them grow, learn, love... it's an incredible ride.",
"omg I instantly cried. It is so important to realize the sacrifice of our parents ",
"*looks at my family* \n\n*looks at comment* \n\nWell shit, I must have really fucked up if I'm the least favorite...",
"He was a mudman.",
"I completely agree! It comes off to me as if the poor kid feels some degree of guilt too, to go to the lengths to write a thank-you note. [Here's my take on it](http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rwh8v/a_note_hanging_from_this_taxi_drivers_steering/dt0hpe5), very similar to your perspective.",
"Awesome to hear! It always makes me really happy to hear that people's parents can be their best friends. \nI really wish I could do the same, I spent a couple of years trying to understand him, empathise and put myself out there for him, but there really wasn't any reciprocation just more hurtful events, so I had to stop. I'm hoping when I'm more accomplished in the outside world and have gained his respect, I can try again. \nHow did you and your dad re-bond? Do you guys share similar interests? ",
"Don't have them until its right for you. I'm sure you know already, but you're young and should still experience living for yourself for a while. :)",
"I didn’t want kids at 27. Or 28. Even 29. Not only did I not want kids, I was vehemently against having children. \nThen, I turned 30 (female) and WOO! I want kids, like, yesterday. \n\n\nEverybody told me this would happen, biological clock, etc. “You’ll see,” they said. And I laughed in their dumb faces because I knew better. \n\nWell, jokes on me. \n\nI’m not saying this will be your experience, because I know plenty of people in their 30s and older who made the decision not to have kids, and they’re happy as shit and financially much better off than those with children, but don’t rule it out just yet. Or do, who cares. Just know that may change. ",
"I have a box full of stuff like this that people I care about give to me. If it's something that can't be bought at all, I keep it in that box.",
"That’s how you get a big tip. Regardless if that’s the intention",
"The saddest part about this is that these taxis (in Singapore) are specially purchased without airbags to reduce costs. Look up the Hyundai Sonata's steering wheel and you won't find the same design for publicly sold cars.",
"Have done 3 years of medical school in the States, so I can say what it was like at our hospitals.\n\nBasically you work 10-12 hours, 6 days a week. Then once every 4 days - 1 week you work an overnight shift, which is something like 6am - 9am the next day. You sleep if you get time, which you rarely, if ever, do. It's complete and utter madness. The slogan you're taught is \"Eat when you can, sleep when you must,\" and it turns out you don't technically die if you don't sleep for 36ish hours.",
"What if he wrote that himself in order to appear more likeable to the clients and possibly get a few tips out of it too?",
"https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ab/Simpsons6x13.jpg/235px-Simpsons6x13.jpg",
"Man, I got five kids to feed.",
"I don't get the going to jail part.",
"My daughter found one of her drawings in the recycling (she’s 4). She was heartbroken until I showed her my flash drive with every single picture she’s ever drawn me (even the turtle she drew on a napkin at Burger King) scanned, saved, and cataloged by her age and the date.\n\nThen I explained recycling and also how much space stuff like that takes up. Now she draws them and helps me scan them.",
"I teared up a little",
"Hey, thanks for standing on my dad side :) He deserves it. \nThat's exactly what I meant in my comment if you read carefully, I am really grateful for what he's done, but I'm frustrated that we live in a system where he had to choose between providing for his family and being there with them. \nI'm not talking shit about him, I'm saying how he's made the family feel is as valid as how hard he's worked for us, how it's sad (and it affects me) that he had to choose the side he chose. ",
"Well in a way ...",
"No. He's saying you should take a different service so your driver doesn't fall asleep at the wheel. Driving for 16+ hours is dangerous. ",
"This may be the most humbling image on the entire internet.",
"I like to think he went home and looked in the mirror and whispered...\"you are the chocolate man\" haha\n",
"Thanks, cannot put it better myself. ",
"You'd be surprised what you can do. His story isn't exactly outside the norm for hospital-based medicine. It's fucking brutal. In my medicine and surg rotations, we had Q4 call, meaning every 4th day you had a 28 hour shift.",
"I’m so cynical I just assume he’s written that himself and put it in a place where his passengers will see it...if I saw that I’d probably give a bigger tip",
"yeah, I hate myself. But I'm also just preaching the truth. \n",
"What a beautiful note",
"Wow. Are you me? This is exactly what I experienced. My daughter wrecked my whole world, in the best way. \nFor me, I think it's that love the mystics talk about, selfless outward sacrificial love. When you step outside of yourself and give love, is when I experience real love. At least, that's what it's like for me. Great post. These kids just don't understand :) ",
"I put everything my kids give me in a lockbox . I could never bring myself to throw it away , so I put all of their little gifts in there to show them once their older. ",
"My 10 year old nephew after his baby sister was born asked me, \"Are you sad that you don't have a baby, that's why you're always carrying Hannah around?\" Well fuck. That threw me off for a bit. So yeah. Kids and their questions sometimes.. ",
"Little does she know, he sits around all day.",
"Daddy, you working hard. Us love a love.",
"Lmao. \"Freedom for those inside it.\" xD",
"Just wait until you have kids, wait until you see how you feel when they fall and scrape their knee, or when a bully sends them home crying. Then you will understand.",
"I think you can be a magistrate. ",
"A guy working in our plant puts 6-7 10 hour days in a week, then goes home and does both a 4 hour uber, then 4 hour lyft shift, every day.\n\nWhen I asked him about it he told me he had 12 kids (with twins on the way). I told him to STOP FUCKING his wife immediately.",
"That is so sweet.",
"I see, so you were approving the American invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. ",
"DO IT FOR HER",
"My dad used to have to wear a suit to work, so I made him a tie out of paper and put scribbles all over it with different colored markers. He actually wore it to work once. ",
"How did you manage to conclude that?",
"? They found purpose in life and decided the difficuties were worth it. They loved people and knew people loved them. They ended up better than when they started. Everything good about this story.",
"What's sad is I see a huge number of people - especially on reddit - who really seem to dislike kids and not want them, and I feel they haven't the faintest clue what they're missing.\n\nThe thing is it's actually quite easy to see the hard part of parenting that you mention, and it's quite a turnoff to having kids. I'd gone from wanting kids to not wanting them. But the incredible rewards were nearly impossible for me to see. And that instant feeling that the guy you're responding to talks about the second that squirmy helpless little monkey is out.\n\nI've tried a couple of times to explain it, but can't put it into words well, and plus I know a lot of people don't want to be told that they should have kids - I know I used to resent it and never do it. But it breaks my heart that some of my good friends don't seem to be going down that road. On the one hand it's not so bad because they don't know what they're missing, on the other hand, it's so sad they don't know what they're missing...",
"What if he just found that when cleaning out a cab at the end of a shift?",
"Plot Twist: He has no kids and that little forgery ups the tip rate by 25%",
"I was thinking the same thing. What is he even talking about?",
"Don't forget, you're here forever.",
"Are they still around?",
"Hopefully you paid the work back for that toilet paper? There's something called government assistance, what your mom is is a thief",
"100% accurate. I had/have serious issues stemming from my own childhood trauma and the only thing that ever gave me the motivation to seek help and learn to love myself is having a daughter simply because I do not want her to grow up with a role model that hates themselves. I struggled to think it was worth it before but now, oh god the love, I have to do better for her. ",
"Just have some arguments with my parents. Now I feel so bad,want to give them a hug. (´°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥ω°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥｀)Thank you.",
"And then they become teenagers. ",
"i just like my dad, love would be pushing it.\n#imnotcryingyourecrying",
"Every working parent should have one of these -- or something similar. In the shitty times at work, it reminds you of why you are doing what you do. ",
"Not everyone has parents that treat their children like their everything. Please remember that..........",
"Motivating. \nI hope I can make a similar decision as you some day.",
"I love you ",
"I’m having our first in 3 weeks and I’m so much more excited after reading this!",
"I feel the same way, and I'm not proud of it. I waited tables in college and the waitresses told me they got bigger tips when they had photos of their kids in their order taking notepads that the customers would see. ",
"Admittedly, I'm very hungover right now, but this got me instantly choked up.",
"/r/crappyoffbrands ",
"I just choked back tears too . My old man was gone for 7 months at a time across country so he could give my family everything we needed . He worked 14 hours a day 7 days a week and only ever took breaks to go to the restroom or sleep . Each time he came home my siblings and I would run to him and hug him . He’d be in tears telling us how much he loved us and how much he missed us when he was gone . He’d do everything he possibly could with us and then 2 days later he’d leave again to go work for 7 months . It took a toll on my family because my dad was never around to do many things with us that other dads got to do with their families . However we all understood that the only reason my dad would leave for so long was so that he made enough money to give my family everything we ever wanted . Good on you for making sacrifices for your family just like my dad did . ",
"Perfectly written!",
"Forcing a parenthood test is very different than not allowing people to have children. Forcing a parenthood test is at most taking a blood sample by force, however most people will happily consent to a parenthood test. I'm saying that the idea that people shouldn't be allowed to have children without passing a test may sound nice in theory, but is completely impossible to implement. What about people that live of grid, in the middle of the woods with just them and their wife. Would people come and arrest them or take their children away if it was found that they had kids without passing the test first? What could you possibly use as legal punishment for people having children without passing other than taking their children or forcing women to have abortions, which would entail forcibly detaining pregnant women, restraining or drugging them and aborting the child while the women is asleep. Simply impossible.",
"I can relate to this so much. I have adult acne and have been asked multiple times \"what's wrong with your face?\" I know the kids don't mean anything by the comment, so I take the opportunity to teach them a little about asking about appearance. It stings for the rest of the day though.",
"Eshte Shqiptare.",
"Oh, so you just *\"prefer\"* to have illegals do undesirable jobs for starvation-level wages. Sounds very moral.",
"Do....i.t\n\nFor.....h..er\n",
"-single tear falls-",
"Lol. In the 29 years he has worked there, he has worked literally from the bottom to the top, and in that time, he and my mom had 4 of the 5 kids in our family, so some of the other guys who've been there just as long have gotten to see us all grow and achieve and fuck up in real time. A lot of them never had kids, so I imagine he's at least pretty far up there in the dad rank.",
"I see this more as please tip me more; I work so hard and never get to see my kids :(",
"I watched it for the first time the other day. Was laughing out loud! Good stuff! ",
"It's not the pedestrians, it's those damn drivers that think they own the road.",
"It's from Singapore. They don't have a tipping culture there.",
"https://i.imgur.com/sJDIfkH.jpg",
"Your mom was probably more right than you realize. I had ridiculously lavish Christmases growing up. My parents were totally compensating for the lack of time and attention they gave us. From what I've seen, in general less financially well off families tend to value family connections and time together more than wealthy families do. Wealthy families make up for the lack of those intangible things with physical things they buy each other.",
"I think it's definitely deliberate that it's out in the open like that.",
"I remember my first payslip. I gave it to my dad, I can see how proud he was, of course, he gave it back to me. It still makes me cry, to see him so proud.",
"Well put. I once read having a child is like having your heart outside of you're body, and I couldn't agree more. It's not easy and it's not for everyone, but it's truly all encompassing. And exhausting!",
"I never really understood it. I mean I knew I had unconditional love from my parents no matter what. I always felt loved and wanted in my house. But I never fully internalized it.\n\nUntil I had a kid, he's almost 2 now and holy fuck. It wasn't like you read that as soon as he's born you're like mindblown.. The first few months I was kind of floating around in my mind.. I was like \"hmmm shouldnt I be feeling different somehow? Am I broken?\" then one day my kid looked at me and smiled. He must've been 8 months... And BAM! Roundhouse kick to the face. Everything changed that instant. Everything else cease to be of importance. And then everything\" clicked\"",
"It WILL, but it will suck, and you will wonder, wtf am I doing this for, but keep an eye on the big picture no matter how trite that sounds-it’s the truth and I had to finally realize that I was indeed worth it, and sometimes, that’s the biggest hurdle to tackle-try to keep that first and foremost-if YOU aren’t looking out for you, who the hell will?? I wish you well 2hoodrich4me, if i was able to do it, with my huge CRITICAL family CONSTANTLY breathing down my neck just waiting for me to fail, then ANYONE can do it I’m thinking :) good luck!",
"Sorry for being the dumb one but he probably wrote it himself",
"I went through my entire pregnancy absolutely terrified so I can totally relate. My son is 5 months now, and I wish I could go back and tell my pregnant self that everything is going to be fine! It has it’s challenges, but something about the 3/4 month point everything changes. The smiles are heart melting and will cure even the worst nights of no sleep. Plus, you start to feel their love for you. My son looks at me with such love, I can’t even put it into words. You’re going to experience that times 2! I just wanted to give you some words of hope, I know how scary it all can feel! Congratulations to you! ",
"I think because we don't think of it as one \"lot\", it just means lots of. Plus other words do that - also, always, altogether, etc.",
"Yay for ignoring regulations in the name of saving a couple of bucks! /s",
"Your comment makes me want to start making babies this very instant ",
"Accurate as fuck.",
"Thanks",
"And that what love is or should be. It's just that we humans never go above the little pesky things like selfishness, greed etc until nature/biology/science/God decides to intervene and do it for us, to us.\n\nAnd when that happens we go all in.",
"I don't have kids, don't want them, and can't have them even if I did, but this made me cry. Just makes me think of how willing my dad is to give anything to me, including the literal clothes off his back (one time I said I liked his shoes and he took them off and insisted I take them). I needed a new mattress and he turned up the next day with his bed strapped to the roof of his car. If I call at any time, day or night, he will answer the phone, and if I say I need you to come here he will. I'm 32, almost 33, married and self sufficient, but it doesn't matter. His big regrets in life are about sending me to preschool (I hated it) and trying to do the right things but accidently choosing the wrong ones for me. It's amazing how much knowing you are loved can anchor your life and help you value yourself. Your daughter is lucky to have a dad like you.",
"https://i.imgur.com/hPXDIea.jpg",
"If that was your point you could have made it without the sarcasm.\n\nIt didn't read like your were sympathizing with the driver. It read like you were sniping at him.\n\nI would move heaven and Earth to find an alternative to leaving my kids indefinitely. As you suggest in your response, there may have been no heaven and Earth to move for this guy.",
"I make the same \"mistake\". I would never use \"front yard\", I would say \"warehouse\".",
"Hard to be \"definite\" about it. It could easily be his motivation to get through work without punching some snobby drunk kid in the mouth at 2am, ya know? ",
"We got drugs to make you forget all the drugs you take! We got drugs to remind you to take your drugs!",
"My friend and his 4 or 5 year old daughter (at the time) were getting on an airplane and standing in line. His daughter looked at who they were standing with and looked whoever that was right in the eye and said \"you're really fat!\". Unfortunately, they had assigned seating and that person was assigned the seat with them. He said it was a very very long flight.",
"Girlfriends daughter \"colored\" me a picture one of the first times I met her (she's 3.5). That things in my office at work to remind me about the happines I want to give her, even if she's a pain in the ass 100% of the time. It's difficult but going to keep trying!!",
"Dad of the year! ",
"I second that ",
"Everyone on a different path. I'd much rather people not have children, knowing how much it dominates life, than people have children without being prepared for the responsibility. \n\nI never thought I'd be jazzed to go to a christmas concert to watch children absolutely butcher some christmas music. Being a parent is some sort of insanity. ",
"It's not like losing a pen, is it?",
"Things change incredibly fast. \n\nIt's cliche, and I dismissed it when my friends told me that....but it's 110% true, you feel it the first time you hold them. \n",
"Let me tell you something, your dad is proud of you no matter what. In this world we set out too much expectation of ourselves, it's meaningless. Remember we are floating on a rock. All this material shit means nothing if you don't have the connection. I would trade everything have if I could spend a mear minute with my mum and dad. Spend more time with him, he loves you.",
"Well you can, but what I meant is that it comes at a cost whether phsyical or mental. If you can get a reset day in there every so often you will be mostly ok, but if you're running off of fumes from poor sleep but using stimulants(which are already stressing your body on their own) to to kick it to full *speed* every single day it is going to run you ragged after a while. \n\nI'm not trying to say he's going to die from what he's doing but that less than favorable changes are happening in his body and brain as a result, and it will add up. Any \"getting used to it\" by your or his body is your body ignoring all the bad shit because it thinks there is something serious going on where you need to be sleeping so little, the symptoms would be a distraction, same idea as our brains filtering out background noise. It is *not* your body acclimating to survive with less sleep.",
"And then along comes Uber and daddy is out of a job...",
"Is this from Singapore? ",
"Aaaand now I'm sobbing",
"Do it for her",
"His son is Resident Evil? Man, Dr. Evil must be going through tough times if he has to drive a cab to make ends meet... or get that second laser for the sharks.",
"I wish I had a kid. Especially for these moments. ",
"Do it for her.",
"You mean the people who will make blind u and left turns? The people who pass between cars because they don't care about lane space?",
"Please come back to corporate America, everything has gone to shit and Janet spilled mayonnaise in the server room.",
"Damn criminals sneakin into this great county spoiling it's land! This is why we need a wall! Get em out! Get that kid out too! how dare he work a meager living to provide for his family! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!",
"Well that went weird fast lol",
"Wouldn't he make more money driving taxis in the US?",
"The truth is spoken",
"This is because I'm a terrible parent who is just barely holding on. I appreciate your opinion and I'm glad it is easy for you.",
"And its easy for most politicians to forget that many of these people just want better lives for their families.",
"Fucking a dude...that was beautiful",
"Totally. I didn’t get it till i had kids. ",
"It's absolute shit for your health, yeah. The issue is, outside of his day off, how much sleep he's getting is probably not really his choice. When you work 80+ hour weeks, there's only so much time for sleep when you're still needing to read for boards, do normal daily chores, etc.",
"Well the friends that I was referring to that I know are more than prepared, and would all make great parents.",
"*feminist shrieks in distance*",
"Whenever I read a post like the one above yours I think: But is it not a gamble, who is to say you'll have this wonderful life changing revelation upon having a child, or maybe it'll just be you the same as today but with a kid.",
"Depending on how old you are, that's probably alright. I had no ability to talk to people when I was young, but over the years I've been required to talk to people in jobs, and you learn it over time. Some people are born with it, but I sure wasn't. You can learn to handle it. Start off just saying hi to him, asking how he's doing. Or throw awkwardness to the wind and just tell him that you want to talk to him but don't know how. He already knows you struggle, so you don't have to hide that from him.",
"Parents just want the best of you . My parents set task they thought I’d never be able to accomplish in order to test me . I never seceded but each time they gave me one of those tasks they’d stand in the window smiling and waving at me . I’d come inside after being too exhausted to continue , and they’d tell me “ We knew from the beginning that you’d fail son , but of course we told you to do it anyway . We told you this because you won’t always have the easy life . Life is full of impossible tasks but what matters is that you stand back up and try again . And don’t worry we’re still proud of you and all of your siblings “ . They wanted to show me that they would never be disappointed as long as I tried and that there was no reason to give up . Parents don’t expect their children to be perfection. I don’t expect my kids to do everything I ask them to perfectly . I just expect them to give it a shot . They come to me and say “ I don’t think I can do this daddy “ and they start crying ( my oldest kid is 6 ) . So I pick them up and tell them that that’s okay , and I’ll carry them back to what I asked of them to help. I’d never be disappointed in my kids , I’ve been proud of them since day one and that will never change . I’m positive it’s the same with your dad . ",
"I have friends in a similar situation, to each their own. I know they have experience which I can't because of my responsibilities. ",
"Parent perspective here. I don’t think your dad is being weak for avoiding triggering situations—especially when it’s not actually a situation that would require him to fully step up. He saw into the chasm of despair of cancer, and doesn’t need to experience it needlessly. I suspect if the situation were to actually call for it, his strength and love would shine through in many ways. ",
"What’s so hard about driving a taxi?",
"Nice try taxi driver. Not only Uber offers an economical alternative, but a safer drive with greater customer experience. Be gone taxi driver. Adapt or starve.",
"This, so much. I thought I knew what love was - I loved my husband and parents and siblings and nieces and nephews and dog and cats. My SIL and my mom kept telling me that I was going to experience a whole new level of love and I kept rolling my eyes at them every time they said it. But holy shit I had no idea how much bigger my heart could get until my daughter was born. It’s FIERCE and it’s wonderful and it’s stronger every day. Parenthood is straight up the hardest thing I’ve ever been through but it’s also the most rewarding and I wouldn’t change it for anything. ",
"I'm 25, I don't have much time left..",
">\tArt affects you on a different level once you become a parent. I read Cormac McCarthy's \"The Road\" shortly after the birth of my son and I struggled mightily not to cry imagining being in that situation with my boy.\n\nI watched *Under the Skin* after having my son, and the scene with the baby on the beach made me angry at the director. I never felt mad at a movie like that before.\n\nAlso watched *Dear Zachary* around the same time. LPT: Don’t ever watch *Dear Zachary*.\n",
"It actually takes 25 years or so for the brain to fully develop the capability to appreciate the experience of others; ‘empathy’ I guess you could call it. ",
"Clearly you advocate for the USA to export its freedom. Thing is that some countries don't want to take that freedom of yours, so the only answer is invasion. Man you are dumb as shit. This discussion is over.",
"Oh that's the worse. It's there, you just know it, but damned if you're going to find it ever again.",
"> Fuck this society of greed.\n\nThats deep bro....",
"Have you ever owned a pet?",
"> Is your dad is seeing your flaws and trying to help you correct them? \n\nWell I've always kept to myself so my problems and flaws are pretty hard to see/ hidden for the most part. My problem is I don't know how to open up and am incapable of talking to people. ",
"When `git blame` turns into git shame.",
"Yeah. Currently trying to figure out a drug solution, no luck so far.",
"Maybe he's trying to deter a robber.",
"Sarcasm?",
"Parents care about us so much, and I feel like a moron for how I’ve treated mine in the past. One thing I’ve always remembered is my mum looking at makeup, and then not buying it (at that age you don’t understand money and I just thought my parents had endless amounts) and I’d be like “Why didn’t you buy it?! Darn! It looked good on you!!” And she’d just say “Ah, doesn’t matter” or something. And she went without so she could treat me. I remembered saving and saving for this lipstick or something I thought she’d like because I’d seen her go shopping and look at them. It was a MAC one I can’t quite remember, but £20 seemed TONS of money to me then, and I wrapped it up and I remembered seeing her on Xmas open it and just be on the verge of tears. My mum has never been a woman to show emotion, so this felt huge. She wore that lipstick almost every single day to work, I was with her once and my aunt compliments her, and asks what lipstick it is and she beamed “It lovely isn’t it? She bought it for me! With her OWN money!!” And I just remember how pleased she was. I still see the pretty much empty lipstick container in her handbag now. I should probably buy her a new one, but I don’t think I’ll ever replace the original.",
"Nope, being serious",
"While i'm sure it may be sincere, i can't help but think he put it there on purpose to drive up tips.",
"I think it proves the point. haha",
"Be honest with him and let him help you. If anything ever happened to you or of you stopped contacting him without asking for help, it would eat away at him. I saw this happen with my father and brother. My brother finally just realized my dad loved him no matter what and was proud of him even if he wasn’t the definition of success. Now that my dad is gone, I’m so grateful my brother had this realization before it was too late.",
"(For reference I'm 21 and my dad died a few years ago).\n\nSimilar thing with my dad. I was looking around the garage one day and found a small toolbox. Opened it up and it had some of his old stuff. Among all the things in it I found an old Father's Day card I made when I was peobably around 7 years old.....I almost started bawling man. That man was always proud of me every step of the way.....miss him so damn much.",
"Yes, yes it is. Here are some good vibes from me to you. I hope you have a good Sunday :) ",
"Yeah that is a common scam in here. The taxi driver picks you up and proceed to talk on the phone with his boss about how his kid fell in a glass table a gouged her eye out, then pretends the boss is screaming at him and threatens to fire him if he misses a days work. I already heard it 3 times. It's a scam to force a pity tip out of you.\n\nThe third time I got it I asked the guy if he could wait outside a mall while I went to the ATM so I could give him 500 pesos (like 28USD) as a tip, I went inside and out through the back door. Left his scammer ass there and didn't even pay for my ride.",
"My dad hasn't always been the greatest dad but he's always been there when I needed him. This hit so hard because my dad is also a cab driver who works a lot and lately he's been over working trying to save money for lasik surgery he needs. I invited him for breakfast yesterday to tell him I was gonna pay for it and he just started tearing up. I think he's starting to realize that now that he's getting older it's my turn to help him out like he did when I was younger. ",
"😒 Why did I get treated like a punching bag then? \n\nHell, my dad's girlfriend was arrested because she was beating me in a car and I was just sitting there taking it, car behind us called 911. When the cop got there, I didn't know what else to do, so I lied and said it was okay, wasn't a big deal. Thank God the cop didn't buy that. Dad stayed with her after that. \n\nJust one shining example of many why I have a hard time believing my father thinks the world of me.",
"I bet your dad is willing to talk to you about anything if you call him up, or better yet, drop by",
"Omg thats so perfect ",
"All work is honourable ",
"Wow. I remember when I was younger, maybe middle school or even elementary school, when the after school bus would drive through my neighborhood for whatever reason, the kids would talk about how big the houses are and some even called them mansions. I was very confused because I never thought they were anything special or anything. But I found out about this and asked my mom if we were rich. And from what I remember, she kinda just laughed and said something along the lines of “depends what kind of rich you mean, we’re rich with love, the only way that matters.” This was at the time when all the kids at school were wearing Hollister everything and I was lucky if I had a GAP hoodie. \n\nAnd at that time I was like “wtf mom just answer my question” but looking back I realize how humble she is. Now I’m in college and I have a better understanding of my family’s financial situation and idk if I’d say were rich but probably upper middle class (maybe that’s rich? Idk). I realized my parents could have afforded me nice Hollister clothing or whatever I wanted, but they didn’t see value in it. And that’s how they bought clothes for themselves too, when my dad needs new shoes, he just goes to Walmart and grabs three pairs of the Starter sneakers and he’s fine with that. He doesnt give a fuck. Now I never got this trait, I still go out and spend $80-120 on a pair of shoes, but I admire that about my dad (among other things). \n\n\nBut they kind of hid our financial situation from me when I was younger because they didn’t want it to change the way I treated people and I think I’ll do the same whenever I have kids. ",
"I wasnt crying and now I am.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nBOWLING! Get your bowling here!",
"Enjoy the terror leading up, because the terror after is much harder, and never ends. The current terror lasts only about 9 months :)\n\nJust do your best, that's all you can do, and all they deserve. You'll fuck up, they'll fuck up, there will be fights (currently having one with my daughter because she caught me putting her old baby toys into a box for donation, and is very upset with me), they'd do horrible things, you'll say and do things you regret, but ya just keep doing your best!\n\nSafe travels fellow parent!",
"Do it for her! ",
"Yes. It can be normal. Creating life is one of the most sublime experiences a human can have. It changes everyone differently. There are all flavors of parents out there to demonstrate the variey of changes this experience can evoke. ",
"Perhaps you need a blast of searing hot resin.",
"When I was little I was obsessed with stickers but I also loved giving people stuff. My parents would get me animal stickers and whenever I found a bald eagle I gave it to my dad, because its his favorite animal. And he always put it on the side of his cabinet next to his bed.\n\nI'm 22 now and those stickers are still there.",
"I’ve been told that the bond between twins is an amazing thing to witness as they grow and is like none other. Congratulations!",
"😭😭😭😭😭",
"When I was 9 we had a class project where we made a leaf out of construction paper and then pasted a paper on it that said who our hero was. \n\nMine was my single hardworking mom. She was literally the only human I could depend on in my life at that point. She still has it hanging on the fridge. She's still my hero and I'm glad that she was able to overcome the hard times. ",
"This is very normal. It can even be scary to have kids because you are afraid you will not love them enough. But I can tell you, from the first second that newborn baby looks in your eyes ... that's it. You are done. Everything you do for the rest of your life is for that child. When they smile at you for the first time, when they grab your finger when they cooo at you. When my first daughter was born, I cannot express the emotions I had. And every day for the rest of your life they constantly surprise you. (good and bad). I have 2 daughters now, 4 and 5. I work a lot to support them. I grew up with a good life and I want to make theirs better than I had. It sucks, I am gone Mon-Fri traveling around the country but I will do whatever it takes. ",
"I was in that biz for a long time. Traditionally [in N. America] taxi drivers work 12 hour shifts. Days or nights. This is to cover the 'dead zones' - the time from 3am to 7am, and then 9am to 3pm when everyone's at work and school. No drivers want to work those parts of the day, but the company has to cover it. That's just one of many valid reasons why real taxi drivers dislike Uber. Before someone gets triggered about this whole taxi vs. Uber comment, ask yourself how you'd feel if gypsies came to your place of employment and did your job with no training or oversight, and you lost 75% of your income. And people rejoiced because they saved $2.00. And you have zero recourse because fuck you; you're a nobody. And you can't change or adapt to the new thing, because rules. Rules they don't follow. Imagine being that guy for five seconds.",
"You're very judgemental. \n\nAlso, who's to say that all poor people are poor when they have kids? People lose jobs, or get sick, or have other things that happen. A friend of mine's husband was in an accident and is paralyzed, and he can't work. She has to go back to work while also paying for daycare for two toddlers, and for some care for her husband. But I guess she should go back in time a few years and not have them?",
"Relaxation is not something I have trouble doing and it is a source of much self-loathing. I really appreciate your concern and your level of empathy, you've made your character abundantly clear. I'm fairly confident that your judgement that I'm not a \"normal\" person, capable of \"empathy\", is spot on. I am sorry to besmirch your reputation as a parent. \n",
"\"Dear daddy, thank you for keeping this pity note in a highly visible place to force tips out of dumbasses, love child\"",
"it's certainly a trade off - I see some of my friends and my sister without kids, and i dream of having things like free time again. Being able to look at my wife at 530 and say \"wanna go grab dinner\" and just ... do it. We used to try every new restaurant in town, we haven't been to anything but MacDonalds for years now.\n\nSo, I'll say you are missing out on something, but taht something isn't inherantly better like some people say. It's an experience, it's wonderful, its taxing, it's educational, it's fun, its expensive, it's amazing ... it's so many things, but it's a one way trip! \n\nAlso, at 26, theres no way I would have considered it. my parents, like so many before 1990, had kids young. We had my daughter at 34 .. we were in such a better place, socially, financially, relationshipwise. So, take your time! Or don't! Do what works for you, damn the torpedos, full speed ahead!",
"driving a taxi is the hardest he can work? he must be paralyzed.",
"here here! raised in the english tradition, you internalize anything but mild reactions. But fuck with my kid ...",
"Trucker speed comes to mind",
"I'm worried about you. You seem quite sad, and you've twice referenced not having time left. Are you feeling suicidal? I'm here if you want to talk. I struggle with depression myself, and had attempted suicide when I was younger than you are now. I would be happy to listen if you want to share. PM me anytime.",
"That is one hell of a weird camera shot.",
"Wow. I feel bad for your wife. ",
"Yea I guess that’s really what I was trying to say. I don’t see it as a weakness, but more how you put it.",
"Maybe to you. Not important to me either way, not sorry.",
"I love my cats dearly. I would do anything for them and they are 100% my family. However, the love I have for my daughter is immeasurably bigger and more rewarding. \n\nMy daughter will grow, change, have dreams and goals. I’m responsible for making her responsible, and making sure that she is loved, supported, and safe. Loving my daughter is a life-long journey. \n\nMy cats are just cats. They don’t change much, I don’t have to worry about their hopes or dreams because they don’t have any, I’m not up at night wondering how I’m going to send my cat to college or if I should get them a math tutor. When they die I’ll be devastated, but I’ll get over it in time. \n\nLoving a pet is absolutely nothing like loving your child. ",
"He was always a moron. The problem is he turned into a total jerk, and the show become overly focused on him being a jerk. ",
"Yes! Lol",
"The responses to art you mention are profound for me. There have been a number of films I cannot watch now because I refuse to put myself through the much more visceral emotional roller coaster that they have become now that I have my kids. I turned off hacksaw ridge because there is a tragic scene between two young siblings at the beginning, and I could not stop thinking about all the uncontrollable factors that could lead to tragedy in my children's lives. Was too much. ",
"I once asked my mum (loudly, in a supermarket in the UK) if I was going to be black or white when I grew up. I'm white, but we had been in Africa for a few years...",
"This guys knows kids",
"Reminds me of the Simpsons “Do it for her”",
"Exactly. Don’t fall for it.\n\nEvery time I take a yellow/green cab I’m inundated with sob stories about family and hard times and the cost of New York, all while the drivers are purposefully taking roads that are more congested so they can leave the meter running longer. \n\nWhen I confront them they say that it’s the fastest way and then proceed to change the subject to their sick daughter or their wife in a foreign country.\n\nUbers never had sob stories, it was so strange to me that yellow taxi drivers lived such awful lives while uber drivers generally had normal lives. \n\nUntil uber allowed tipping. Now every time I get in one I get an elaborate story.\n",
"In fairness, I’m from the UK and taxis are generally one of the things we do tip for (if paying cash). \n\nOf course I can’t speak for everyone ",
"Thanks, eh!",
"Don't worry bud. My parents didn't have much raising 5 kids. So I started working at 15 and went to college. Now I'm 30 and got a pretty damn good job and every Christmas I try to get them whatever they want. 2016, I sent them to Laos (home of my people) because they haven't gone back since coming here after the Vietnam War. 2017 got my dad a DJI Phantom 4 he has been talking about all year and my Mom a new Rubbermaid mixer. I don't care about the price for them. ",
"I so agree. Also, crying. I never cried so much as when I had my daughters. I cry over the news when a child dies. I might have been sad, but not cry before. I cried happy and sad tears as they outgrew their clothes. I cried at the damned Kleenex commercials. I cried hard when my oldest left for college. She has her own life now and even though we are very close, it's different. I can call her up whenever I want to, but she's not right here at home. It's still my instinct to protect her. There is tons of books and advice from friends on having a baby and raising a child, but the hardest part is letting them go and live their own life. ",
"I wonder if that is a prop to elicit tips",
"Hey, at least Windows is happy to see you. That's a little motivation :)",
"I'm with you - I struggled a lot with my weight, but having her has given me the motivation to get healthy. If something I can do now gives me another single fucking day with her, then I'll do it, then I'll do it again. \n\nI figure when I'm on my death bed, I'd give anything to see her for another day, another hour, another minute, so I should get them all in now, and do what I can now for her. \n\nKeep on keeping on! remote parenting hug!",
"You use Reddit *and* have a GF? What's your secret? Asking for a friend.",
"I think of it like an Olympic athlete. It sucks to get up and train at 6am everyday. But then you get that gold medal, and all that pain and effort is worth it.",
"Step 1: Make sure passengers can see sign...\n\nStep 2: Make sure bank account is large enough to accommodate surplus tips.\n\n(Sorry folks... I'm fresh out of faith in humanity)",
"it's going to be terrible, as she's got a lot of her mothers stubbornness in her, and she has a lot of my smartassedness. But, we're gonna plow ahead, and get through it! \n\nPlus, I have a pretty good scotch collection, so I have my crutch. \n:)\n\nCheers!",
"*This post was brought to you by Uber*\n\n*Uber, get there faster*",
"At my baby shower I had a friend of my mother’s come up to me and ask how I was feeling and if I was getting excited. I told her I was feeling good and looking forward to becoming a mommy. She took my hand and looked deep in my eyes, and said “you know, it’s like strawberry ice cream, the love you have for your child. Imagine all the love you have ever known, for your parents, spouse, friends, etc. That has all been strawberry yogurt, sweet, cool, creamy, but nowhere near as amazing as strawberry ice cream. You think you know what ice cream will be like because you have had plenty of yogurt, they are both dairy, both strawberry, it can’t be that much different, right? It’s the same kind of thing. You think you know what love is, but then you have kids, and it’s better than you could have ever imagined”. That really stuck with me. ",
"Beautiful. Accurate. \n\nHow about that first time you saw them? Wasn’t that crazy? There is no drug that could compete with that feeling. I followed my daughter everywhere. Wouldn’t let her be out of my sight. And the nurses respected it.\n\nI don’t know if everyone goes through this, but maybe it’s just C-section babies. Did your child take a long time to breathe after being born? I went from not knowing the baby, but ready and wanting, to scared and angry we lost her because she wasn’t breathing, to overwhelming happiness, love and fear (for her mortality, which continues to this day) all in a span of about 30 seconds. I got to see my little pink ball, fell in love immediately, then watched in total panic as the nurses worked to get her breathing. I asked them if she was ok and they didn’t answer so I thought it was serious and didn’t want to bother them. Then that little cry came out... holy shit. That was the best sound I had ever heard. I hit my knees and started bawling like a total nutcase. The nurses asked me if I was ok and I told them what happened and they apologized profusely. It didn’t matter anymore. I was completely focused on the new love of my life. ",
"Have you talked to her about it? She’d probably really appreciate your thoughts.",
"I asked my dad if I grow 3 balls instead of 2 ",
"Nah, you'll find it as soon as you give up.",
"\"Son, please stop calling me in the middle of the night sobbing, I have work tomorrow.\"",
"Beautiful. <3 \n\nAnd may your sister win the battle against cancer!",
"All the best!\n\nThe advice I give every new parent I see is, take a shitload of pictures and videos the first few days. They are such a blur, that you wno't remember them at all. We only took 2 pictures the first couple days home, and they are some of my most cherished, because I can't remember her that small at all. You'll never regret having too many pictures :)\n\nSafe travels, fellow parent! There's a bumpy road ahead, but it's pretty fucking cool.",
"Thanks! ",
"That seems quite appropriate. And my heart is a daredevil, that little shit. \n\nCheers!",
"I recorded a “happy Father’s Day” message to my dad in 2000 on one of those picture frames you can record messages on. It’s been on his desk for 18 years and he still listens to it occasionally, I know. He can recite every word, even where I stumbled over a couple words. I’m really hoping when the battery eventually dies we don’t lose the message because I know how much it means to him. ",
"protip: fix that username :)",
"That is very sweet. How did you notice it?",
"Your post would have made a better point without the casual racism in it.",
"And that’s ,what keeps him going ",
"Sad when you hear Uber trying to fuck over drivers. Oh they will “help” you get a car...",
"My dad's boss put a terrible sign on his desk when he came back after leaving to chase his dream. I don't know what it originally said but he used pictures of me to reword it to \"Do it for her\"",
"Lol",
"Blessed be the fruit!",
"For me it happened the moment my son was born. He came out quiet, not screaming like I expected, and the terror and protectiveness and love that poured out of me at that moment was completely unbelievable. I didn't know myself capable of those feelings.\n\nHe was fine. He just had to cough up some womb gunk and started crying. But those 5-10 seconds before felt like a year.",
"I think love between 'grown ups' is more complex, because we are looking not just to love, but be loved. We have to live with someone day after day, through bad days at work, new hair cuts, ex boyfriends, cover sharing, diarrhea, toilet paper over/under, new jobs, money, sex, politics. \n\nWith a child, all we do is love. We expect nothing.",
"*forecast alert: clouds moving in with 100% chance of rain*",
"Read his comment again.\n\nThey do everything in those 48 hours except sleeping in their bed. They most very likely sleep, just not at home. Still pretty awful though.\n\n",
"Tip your drivers they are out here driving you around for a reason! ",
"This repost is so old, that the taxi driver’s kids graduated college.",
"Kids, man. They change your whole world.\n\nI am terrified of dying. To the point where I start to panic and get anxious about it all. I know that, logically, the world managed very well without me for a lot of years but I just cannot comprehend not existing. I feel like there just HAS to be something after death because I cannot make peace with the idea that there will be nothing for eternity. When it is my time to go, I will be kicking and screaming the whole way. \n\nAnd yet, I know without a doubt that I would not hesitate to die for my children. I would run as fast as I could to intercept a bullet meant for them, I would demand a serial killer takes me instead, if one of them needed a heart transplant they could have mine. I would have absolutely no regret, no apprehension about dying in those scenarios. ",
"People often think life is about them. It unfortunately takes too long before people realize that it's about others. ",
"It sounds like you've got a great dad.\n\nA lot of being a parent is trying to make the best decisions and seeing what happens. It's basically a one way trip, with no map, lots of perilous things, and only a flashlight to guide you. And sometimes we fuck up good :)\n\nAll the best to you! ",
"I see you've never been to college",
"What stops daddy for going over to the competition?",
"this is a great example of where punctuation totally changes the meaning.\n\nfucking a, dude! :)\n\nCheers!",
"I swear it's allways a ASIP reference.",
"pretty amazing what we're capable of!",
"I'll be honest, I must be a cynic because I read this as if this was one of his hookers paychecks and didn't get it until reading comments. ",
"#tipbait",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOcsCOeezo4",
"The weakness part is so fucking hard. I just don't think I have the writing skills to convey how humbling and vulnerable I felt.\n\nI was in the army when my wife and I had our daughter. I actually came off a deployment right as she was being born. It kinda came crashing when I came home from a night shift and my daughter (2 months at this time) was whimpering. She had a fever. \n\nWe immediately took her to the on post hospital. They initially said it was a UTI and gave antibiotics. As we were leaving we were stopped by the nurse and sent to a room where she told us she had a kidney infection and had to be admitted.\n\nAs further tests came back, we found out my daughter had serious kidney issues. It was 50/50 on if she needed surgery. The whole time though, my daughter was being poked and prodded by IVs. When they ran out of hands and feet, they put an IV in her head. And all I could do to console this innocent, sweet child was hold her hand while they pricked her. She had to have a catheter put in.\n\nI really became scared when I called my parents. I updated them and all they could reply with was \"holy shit\". It honestly felt like the first time in my life my parents didn't have the answer I needed. My wife and I felt so...alone and helpless. I became angry. I snapped at the nurses once. My wife would break down and sob.\n\nLuckily she grew out of the issue, she just had to stay on a daily antibiotic for a year. But that experience humbled me and my wife and made sure we never took things for granted. My family is my world and I'll sacrifice anything to make sure they're safe and happy.",
"I was that ADHD child who was incredibly challenging. Thank you, on behalf of him, for putting up with all that shit :) \n\nCheers!",
"I can't handle this. It's too early for emotions.",
"Yeah welcome to \"daddy force\" you see the bad shit going down about five seconds early and intervene.",
"This made me cry ",
"The old saying goes, \"I love my spouse, I just love my kids more.\"",
"You're just getting to the most amazing part (so far) ... life gets so much more fun now :)\n\nSafe travels fellow parent! ",
"And you! ",
"> he let his wife and kids moves to the States for a better life while he stayed and worked 16 hour days.\n\nWhy did he not move to the US too, and work 16 hour days here?",
"Am i cynical for assuming he did this himself to increase tips? I hate my brain sometimes.",
"My uncle did this and he used to get tons of tips. He didn’t even have kids! Suckers!",
"We can get through this, listen to Patches by Clarence Carter.",
"Man with his priorities straight.",
"I'm 31 and don't want kids either but I agree with you on this completely! Such beautiful words. ",
"This guy gets tips. ",
"Do It For Her.",
"When reposts get 100k upvotes...",
"yeah how dare i point out the obvious",
"Such sacrifice and compromise to raise kids. In the US, we have adopted very few best practices that would create paths out perpetual debt. Glad to hear your parents made it out. ",
"i sell better kind of cracks ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)",
"ahahhahaha\n\nThe tax rate is lower in many countries. Also there's not many countries the war on drugs is as bad as the US. It's only ranked at about 11 in the list of economic freedom for countries. Over 50% of the GDP is taxed. Clearly you've got holes in your reasoning",
"God love Aersi... ",
"I drive for uber and don't have kids but I'm definitely making one of these ",
"What a good dad. ",
"Man, I wish my kids appreciated how hard I work to provide them the comfortable life they live.",
"yeah I don't get that when people don't love their parents. My sister and I have always had good relations with our parents. My dad 82 got the flu and had to go to the hospital and was released to a skilled nursing facility this week. His room mate about 60 (life long smoker now confined to a wheelchair with oxygen). Everyday my mom, goes to visit dad even though it's 80 miles round trip. My sister and I visit every other day. The room mate not so much. Last night dad indicated the room mate was suicidal. I wonder if it's because his only child 10 miles away doesn't visit--I don't think there's a wife.",
"This stuff really hits me. You you’re working long hours at a job you don’t want to do to take care of people you want to be with but can’t because you’re working. Fuck. ",
"When I was 18, I wrote my dad a letter with a poem while I was away from home for a year. A few years later, I was trying to find something he said was \"on the dresser\" and ended up looking in a dresser drawer assuming that's what he meant. I found the letter laminated under his socks. I never said anything and assumed he planned for it to be read at his funeral. Instead he pulled it out at my wedding. There wasn't a dry eye in the room.",
"Having to go to the bathroom and not being able to, stiff limbs from sitting in one place for so long, the amount of work that goes into maintaining a passenger vehicle, dispatchers that want you to get somewhere faster than is legal, safe, or possible... The actual \"driving people from point A to point B\" is the easy part.",
"pet love is a very tiny fraction of child love. I used to be a cowboy with working dogs and horses that I spent all day with, we had bonding. One day my old dog bit my daughter ... bullet to the head.",
"I went to college when I was about 24. It changed my life completely. You just have to DO something to change.",
"Probably has the desired effect. People are emotional, impressionable, and dumb.",
"This was here [2 years ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/2x30e8/seen_on_a_cab_awwwww/), [pic](https://twitter.com/seanmichaelchui/status/570135554353860608) was taken in a singapore taxicab.",
"Was that a Grand Theft Auto 4 quote?",
"if you read the old biographies (Lewis & Clarke) you'd learn that we used to eat dogs and horses as a regular thing, as did the Native Americans. European, Middle Eastern, & South American peoples eat horses, and East Asians still eat a lot of dogs.",
"It’s not about the work",
"Nice try, Big Taxi.",
"> I’m pretty sure normal people with empathy are capable of understanding what it’s like to be a parent.\n\nI was completely stunned at how different life was after becoming a parent, so was my wife. So was my wife's friends she met in a mother's group. I guess I'm just part of a community of non-normal, non-empathetic people. \n\nAgain, I thank you for your concern and empathy. But you seriously don't relate and sound rather condescending and insensitive. I'm very glad you find parenting easy and I hope there are many more like you. I wish you all the best.\n\n",
"Twist: He doesn't have kids, he wrote that and put it in a conspicuous place to elicit more tips.",
"I’m not crying you’re crying ",
"I've always felt that way about myself too, but I guarantee (as much as any stranger can) that there is nothing you can do, aside from maybe murder or something, that will make your dad ever look at you the way you imagine he does. I know I sound like a broken record at this point, but I didn't realize it until my son was born either. No matter how many times my mom told me that nothing I ever did made her love me less or disappoint her to an extreme point, I never believed it. I have not been the best daughter, or adult, and I always thought that she looked at me as her own failure. But when I finally got to meet this tiny little human that I was responsible for, it just clicked. The love you have for your child eclipses any and everything that you've ever felt or imagined feeling. As long as they aren't hurting anyone intentionally and are happy, then you're gonna be proud of them at least for the most part. When he looks at you he doesnt see your failures, he sees the person he loves more than anything or anyone. He sees his tiny little baby that stole his heart all those years ago, a literal part of him that he would do anything for just to see a small smile. The only expectation a parent has for their child is to be a happy and good person. Of course this is all just my rambling opinion though so obviously I can't speak for your dad or anyone else. Good luck man, I wish you and your dad the best!",
"Miser",
"I remember watching a video, some super grueling cross country triple marathon which has a time limit of like 36 hours. The winner after running for a day and a half strait, walks across the finish line, plops down into a lawn chair, his son jumps in his lap, and someone gave the dad a yogurt cup and he promptly starts feeding the kid.\n\nThat's what love is.",
"That letter alone would save me from the crippling depression of work related rage that would've otherwise ended in a postal incident...That letter and *candy*.",
"maybe he want to bait you into tipping lol",
"My mom put all that stuff in a box and gave it to me when I moved out. It was really cool to look back at all the crap I made when I was in elementary school and old class photos.",
"No, taxi driver in Total Recall.",
"I imagine having or not having actual kids, that trick can net you a few extra bucks.",
"It is!",
"You're a good writer made me teary eyed ",
"I retracted that statement, I don't think that at all. I meant that I couldn't explain it without a shared experience. I'm very sorry to have conveyed that idea and do not believe it for a moment. The fault is entirely my own inability to convey an idea, not another's ability to understand it. All my fault, no one else's. Your mockery of me is totally deserved.",
"Yeah man. I was the same and I still am actually (hard to love myself). Its not like any love that I can explain. I have two and my order of importance in this world is 1. Kids 2. Everything else. ",
"Fact",
"Neither do I lol. ",
"Aww, how sweet",
"\\>assuming anyone who has an issue with Uber is a taxi driver\n\ngg no re",
"I'm not crying. You're crying!",
"I have four of them and the oldest just turned 14. Same combination of stubborn/smartass. \n\nI collect Irish whiskey. \n\nGood luck!",
"I'm not crying ur crying ",
"well...i don't want to become a magistrate anymore...i want to study foreign languages (especially english and german) and teach them one day...But i don't really have the money to start university right now...i look hard for jobs but i can only find for few months every year . i still study german on my own hoping one day someone would notice and hire me for translation work and stuff like that...",
"I had my first kid when I was 21... I wasn't ready until I seen the little guy. Everything changes immediately you will understand when it happens",
">Is it normal if I dont' understand this and I'm 25? I can't imagine another human being well, being my everything. I can barely handle loving myself. \n\nSometimes it's easier to love others more than you love yourself, since you don't know all the disgusting thoughts _they_ have, like you do your own.\n\nChildren are also special, since you know that their motivations and what they think about haven't gotten as complicated as that of a typical adult's yet. The child's behavior might be awful, but the basis of it will be relatively simpler.",
"Could someone explain me what does\"money so spread\" meaning\n",
"You will. I was in the same boat.\nNow I cry thinking about, it's hard to explain. But you will love them so much you'd give up pizza for them. And I love pizza. They are like the most important extension of you.",
"He's made mistakes, but we all do. All the best to you too!",
"Spread thin, as in there wasn't much money. ",
"At the beginning of my depression, i was also becoming an older sister (~12 years old). My dad saw this and saw my waning trust for adults, how i was beginning to feel left out, and my faultering relationship with my mom, so every other weekend he took me to the planetarium. Just the two of us.\n\n10 years later, its one of the most important things anyone has done for me. I think about it every day. I got a tattoo on my wrist to commemorate the time and remember that no matter what, I've got someone in my life to fall back on.\n\nBeing there for your kids matters. So much more than you can ever imagine.",
"I don't know what resources are available to you, and don't know what country you're in. Given that you're listing English as a foreign language, I'll assume not the US. \n\nr/personalfinance has individuals across the world that genuinely just like helping people figure out how to get on their feet and have tons of recommendations for nearly any scenario. There's always things all of us can do to better our situation, and sometimes an outside perspective helps. \n\nI was blessed with an amazingly loving and supportive family but had my dad die when I was young. Even when we were going through our roughest times financially, he made sure we kept dreaming. He never wanted us to be limited in what we could become. I'm sorry that's not the situation you had. I can't even imagine it.\n\nIf it means anything to you, I really hope you can follow your dream. Everybody has one and everybody deserves the chance to follow it. ",
"This kids a sucker boss",
"I love giving back to. Are your parents quite conscious about spending money still? My Mum is still stuck in the mentality she was in back then in many cases. She never treats herself to anything.",
"No its not normal. You need to find purpose. ",
"Sorry to hear that :(",
"Do it for her.",
"“It just works” ",
"Your ridiculous level of ignorance can only be explained by a healthy mix of bigotry and stupidity.",
"I felt the same - until I had a kid (he’s coming to 3 months old soon). I now understand what they all meant.\n\nYou end up becoming more ambitious too - I tripled my salary (6 figure salary now) - and I don’t think I would have done it if it wasn’t for him.",
"Aww.",
"Man, I'm on your side with the immigration issue and that guy you replied to is a dick, but.. I'm a white girl and I've worked a dishwashing job. Most of my co-workers were white. My stepson worked as a dishwasher for two years. I dated a white guy who was a landscaper. This may have a lot to do with what area you live in. \n\nI wish people could realize that issues that are this emotionally charged are never going to be solved as long as they remain this polarized. The only way change will ever happen is if we meet in the middle and try to understand each other better. Racism is repulsive and it goes both ways. ",
"I have no idea how to format this, but /r/snackexchange\n Edit to get the sub name right!",
"My mum and dad grew up poor, and my grandparents grew up poor because they had grown up from Irish immigrant families. They had even lived in ghettos.\nMy mum and dad refused to get into debt because I grew up in an extremely poor area outside of the city, and they had seen first hand what it had caused. All of my grandparents died when I was young and we really didn't have much extended family to borrow from. \n\nMy mum decided when we were all children (I'm one of three). To go to college and university, in hopes of being able to secure a better life for us. My mum was never expected to work in anything other than a factory. My dad went to work as a taxi driver, mostly nights. So it was very rare I would see my parents together, or I was always at an after school club while they were out working and studying. I really didn't get to spend much time with my mum as she also had to work part time. We were too poor for her to afford being in education full time, with just my dad's wage. One Christmas we were so poor that my dad's friend, who was very wealthy, let us come to his house for Christmas dinner, and to each pick a present from under his tree. But I never wanted for anything. I always wanted the latest gadgets that my friends had and I never got them. I didn't get internet until I was in high school, I didn't get my own TV until my nan bought one in 2002 just before she passed away. But my mum always made do. Any spare money would go on clothes for us, art supplies, books, typewriters, anything my mum thought would educate us. Albeit all of it was from second hand shops.\n\nI was so proud when my mum graduated, when I was 11 years old. My brother and sister have now both finished university. I am on my way back into education after leaving due to serious health problems. If I didn't see how hard my parents had worked. I would have given up with all of the challenges I have had to face in my own life, on ever going back into education. I would have given up on working my way into better jobs and moving up. When I go back to where I grew up, and I meet people I grew up with as a child, it's quite sad. There are more people I have grown up with that have criminal convictions than A levels. Poverty destroys people's lives on so many levels. I really appreciate my parents for trying to push us in the right direction and wanting us to have a better life than they had.",
"Let's create a GoFundMe for this dad!!",
"These comments just make me glad I don’t have children. Why you’d choose to have them unless you’re filthy fucking rich is beyond me. ",
"Apology accepted. XD",
"I used to worry so much about this. But now with 4 teenagers, I couldn’t disagree more. Yes, you suffer through a few eyerolls and stupid decisions, but to see your kids become more engaged with the world around them, and to have *them* introduce *you* to new things, is truly rewarding. ",
"I'm waiting for someone to prove this guy doesn't have kids at all and just put that on there to get more tips...",
"Yeah but that guy is still a douche",
"He hasn't seen his wife in 5 years? I can't shake the feeling that there's a good chance she's cheated on him at least once. 5 years is a long time without intimacy.",
"He did. Didn’t you read his username?",
"Drug solution? Seek a therapist. Try SSRIs, Lexapro at 5 mg for a couple of weeks, then 10, then increments of 2.5 mgs every 3 weeks until 20. Unless 10 does the trick. If you start feeling numb (despite the slow upping of dose) you can add 15 mg of mirtazapine. You might feel the effects of the latter within a few days. Do see your primary care physician or a psychiatrist. I'm clawing out of the darkest depression imaginable. It's been super slow. The meds were definitely the push I needed. All you need is some hope. It's just a shitty brain state, nothing more. Remeron might pick you up quickly, just try to get some professional help. Keep punching. ",
"Beautifully and wonderfully written. I wish all parents were like this towards their children.",
"My neighbor who was probably around 7 years old at the time saw my parents and asked why our family was so short, straight to their faces",
"Reading this while breastfeeding my 2 week old daughter just after tucking in her big brother and no I'm not crying, I just got something in my eye.\n\nIt's pretty awesome to be a parent, huh.",
"Yep, a good friend of mine from college retired last year at 51 and moved to a resort type town. She and her husband travel all the time, go to outdoor concerts, go hiking..... Really glad for her. Me, on he other hand—even with a good job and a husband who also has a good job, it’s gonna be a while for us, especially with our 4 kids just entering college. But neither my friend nor I would trade places :)",
"Small changes everyday. One day you will look behind you and everything will be different. ",
"I missed the part where we were talking about me personally.\n\nI would definitely be willing to hire an \"illegal\" to continue the undesirable job of conversing with you, but there unfortunately don't seem to be any handy. \n\nLuckily this isn't a task essential for survival, so... I quit.",
"To be fair, baked beans on toast sounds not half bad. I'd eat it... ",
"Way to vocalize it!\n\nTo add some motherly perspective: I had a traumatic labour and delivery. I have PTSD from the entire experience. My son could have died. \n\nIt wasn’t until I was recounting the experience to a childfree friend that she looked at me and said “you could have died too, you know.” And honestly? That didn’t occur to me in that exact moment. I was in so much pain, and I was so scared, but not for myself, but for my tiny child whose heartbeat kept slowing. My nightmares and flashbacks aren’t of when I was fading in and out of consciousness, it was when my son’s heartbeat slowed. It was being jolted into a different position to get it going again. It was the fateful few seconds of not hearing that cry. The fact that my life was in danger too never occurred to me, and I have to give my mom credit, she stood by my side the entire time, composed, watching HER child’s life be in danger and keeping calm. 100% MVP right there. \n\nAnd you know what? I love the little asshole toddler so much, I’d do it again. And again. And again. As much as is needed to make sure he was okay. Because the moments that I remember are him smiling at me for the first time. Him stopping crying when I walked in the room because he recognized me. Him falling asleep on me because I was Mom, and I am his comfort in the world. \n\nIt’s hard, because my little human doesn’t talk yet (and he’s approaching 3), but I guarantee when he looks at me and says “Mom” I will cry like a baby then. \n\nLike I am now, thinking about it. ",
"so ignorant that you cant even explain how it is ignorant, bigoted or stupid. \n\n",
"Oh that’s a great idea!",
"I really think this would work for my kids. Maybe because they’re younger. ",
"Can you try to work toward a goal that will help others as well as yourself? Like “I’m gonna become a personal trainer” or “I’m gonna get a degree in library science and help those people who are trying to better themselves.” It does take a lot of energy, but you don’t have to do it al at once; just continue long that path, even if it takes a while. ",
"Ooh! One gift from each magi (magus??) or one from all three?\n\nI have a video from last year of my daughter discussing how the three wise men brought baby Jesus gold, sweet-smelling Frankenstein, and murph. I’d have to work that in. :-)\n\nEdit: TIL that magus, or plural magi, denotes an adherent of the ancient Middle Eastern religion of Zoroastrianism. Like Freddie Mercury!",
"Thanks for the analysis detectives",
"Thanks ! My parents done it for all of us when we were youngins and it made all of us so so happy :) I do remember one year they sent it by post and that made it even more special !",
"I feel bad for laughing at that song because it really happened and the poor bastard died, some say, as a result of deliberately rolling his vehicle to avoid killing a bunch of people...but it's such a funny song.\n\n",
">How is it safe to drive for 48 hours straight?\n\nIt really, really isn't. That's why it's illegal in countries where health and safety legislation is a thing.",
"Yeah, I checked how much we paid for only day care this year and I wonder why we can't afford a new car. :-)",
"His wife feels the same. I guarantee it. My wife and I have basically said the same thing to one another. “Before she was born, I loved you more than I’ve ever loved anyone. I still love you the same amount, possibly more, but I can’t even fathom the depth of love for our daughter.” And it doesn’t hurt because we both feel it. If anything, it makes us closer. As strange as that may sound. ",
"Well, thanks to every comment, my tear ducts are now dried out... ",
"'Shit, you got me; I ain't even married!'",
"I'm still using Uber or Lyft instead. ",
"It is possible that your fatherhas changed his expectstions because he realized that they werer based on his own inaccurate preconceptions. A parent will naturally consider his/her child's future, but that child is entitled to his/her own future - and the parent begins to see that more clearly as the child grows and evolves. Maybe you did not turn out exactly the way your father had envisioned, but your percieved failures are valuable lessons to help you become the person you are meant to be. Your father understands that, even if it hard for him to watch, and he is probably realizing he needs to let you do it your won way. Does not mean that he has given up on you or loves you less. ",
"thanks! she's still in hosptial recovering from her surgery, but things are going well. My mum is beating herself up over it, blaming her genes (something about BRCA2), and has been there for everything, even as she's dealing with her own cancer scare. \n\nCrazy what parents can and do do.",
"I think I saw you at a party last weekend. You pissed off the balcony into a crowd of people that were enjoying themselves responsibly. When asked why you did it, you said, “this wasn’t what I was told it would be and I wasn’t having a good time. You all need to read books and watch the documentaries I have seen. Then you’ll understand what a good time is!” Then everyone agreed with you because you were so right and we gave you a high five parade. I’ll apologize for everyone. We didn’t understand that you were right before we heard how right you were. Now that we know, we’ll all go be sterilized because you had a bad experience. I’m certain your failures had nothing to do with your go-get-em and optimistic attitude.",
"If it fits in a binder, then it's not everything. Or, at least, I can tell you that there's no way that my son's or daughter's stuff would fit in a binder.",
"There are some things we keep and some things we toss. They make an enormous amount of stuff.",
"*I'm 25, I don't have much time left..*\n\nFriend, you have all the time in the world. That is the first thing to stop worrying about. I cannot count the number of people I've seen who have absolutely turned their lives around in the span of 1-3 years. \n\nI have no idea what your situation is, but I know that what helped me when I was directionless and depressed in my 20s was that I basically went out into the world. Left home, went out and did some commercial fishing in Alaska, did some other stuff. It helped my confidence, made me much more at ease both around people and on my own, it opened up additional doors, and gradually my direction took shape. \n\nNot to preach to you. But just a general observation - sometimes, doing what feels most comfortable when we're directionless (e.g. focusing more and more and more of our thoughts on ourselves and our lack of direction) is harmful, and what we really benefit from is going out into the world and getting our hands dirty and working our asses off and sleeping well as a result. It has a way of clearing the head. ",
"Oh weird... it’s raining in my house. Fuck you for making me feels!",
"I’m almost 33 w an almost 3 year old (9 days after my birthday!) and I can relate to this in every way. Except, I gave birth to this tiny meatwad. The moment my husband told me I was pregnant(he somehow knew I was pregnant when I was only 2 weeks along... mind blown!) I had this instinctual mama bear sensation and I had to protect my baby at all cost. That night, after seeing the positive lines on the 7 pregnancy tests, I started talking to my belly. I’ve never loved anyone or anything as much as I loved that clump of cells that was growing into my tiny human. I had always dreamed of a natural birth, but bc I had a major back surgery at 25 and had herniated disks, I agreed to have a C-Section for his safety and to guarantee I wouldn’t be paralyzed. Lying on that table, scared out of my mind, I wanted to turn back. The thought of an epidural scared me shitless bc what if they slip. I didn’t know if I was strong enough to be a mom. What if I fucked up this perfect little pink squish? What if I wasn’t meant to be a mom and I’d gotten it wrong my entire life? How could I be so selfish as to assume I was meant to be a mom even though I was so fucked up emotionally?? Then, I felt the faint tugging at my abdomen as they pulled him out and suddenly he cried and I saw his reddish purple face as he let out the most beautiful sound I’ve ever heard in my life. After a few, agonizing, minutes, my husband brought him to me and laid him on my chest. Every fear I had went out the window and I just started to sing to him while crying. \n\nAlmost 3 years later and he drives me fucking nuts somedays, but i would lay down my life for this kid in an instant. Even when my brain lies to me and tells me I’m an awful mother, I know it’s a lie bc this wild maniac of mine will tackle me w hugs, kisses and an abundance of “Uv you mama!”s. Being a parent isn’t for everyone, but it really does change your life and make you realize just how selfish you’ve been to think that your purpose here on this planet is to make yourself happy and make sure you’re entertained and fulfilled. Have a kid and suddenly, you’re splashing in mud puddles, playing w playdoh, covered in finger paints and remember long how great bubble baths really are. \n\nYou hear it all the time and it sounds corny but it’s true: Don’t become a parent unless you think you can handle watching your heart walk around outside your body. \n\nI’m extra emotional bc I had to have a hysterectomy, so he’ll never have any biological siblings and he has very few cousins (only one nearby bc we left Texas for Washington). On the 9th and the 18th, we’ll celebrate our birthdays and I’ll have to come to grips w the fact that my tiny pink meatwad is now a 3 year old. \n\nAaaaand I rambled. ",
"*Leg disabled.*",
"You mean $10,000?",
"Which would lend credibility to the unpopular theory that an adult made that to boost tips. ",
"You will understand when you have your first kid. It will be the first time in your life when your own survival becomes secondary.",
"The actual sad part here is that you're probably right. ",
"> I would happily, in a heartbeat, without a moment's hrsitation, give my life for her.\n\nThat's what this taxi driver is doing. Me as well, and from the sounds of it, you too. ",
" In my opinion, this is still the [greatest kid-mom note of all time.](https://i.imgur.com/q2DytOa_d.jpg)",
" You should write commercials for Folgers.",
"I'm surprised the software would allow strike through characters. ",
"Love is in small things",
"I used to do the same thing. I only stopped maybe around when I was a late teen when [hyperbole and a half](http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html) showed me the error of my ways.",
"Dad?",
"Because he hates it. He had to leave his dream job (Bowling place) to go back to the nuclear plant to support the addition of Maggie in the family.",
"Plot twist. He wrote the note to himself. ",
"That reminds me of my childhood. When I was 11 or 12 or so, I started practicing drawing. I was really into it and was getting better every day. My dad, who usually never takes interest in his kids, came into my room and asked what I was doing. I said I was drawing. He slapped me and told me to go study, that drawing can't get you a job.\n\nOver the years, I've tried to pick up drawing/sketching as a hobby but there's a mental block there that I can't overcome. I haven't made any serious attempts to draw since that incident so long ago.\n\nAnd now I remember one time when he slammed my face into a car door, chipping one of my teeth, because while talking to my sister, I said a word he didn't like. It wasn't a swear word, it was a word he thought was part of black culture and he was a horrible racist. I'm never going to get that tooth repaired. I need it as a reminder. I need it to vaccinate myself against any sentiment since he's a narcissist who is skilled at manipulating people.\n\n>god bless the fathers (and mothers) that work hard to grant their children a better life than they had. \n\nIndeed. I'm glad there are good people out there who truly love their children.",
"You should rip it off, whipe your ass with it, jerk off on it then crumple it up and throw it in his face. That would be hella funny.\n\nEdit: Or just leave it and hope he gets into a horrific crash. And as he lays there dying he crawls to see the note one last time but instead watches it catch fire as the car ignites while he screams and burns to death just out of reach of his daughters note. She'll never see him again... \n\nHahahaha, now that's hilarious.",
"damn straight ",
"I was the same at 27. Two years later and I couldn't imagine life without my daughter.\n\n I figured I would lose out on an important life experince if I didn't have kids. Three months in and I can already say that nothing compares to this. ",
"Agree, but 27 is not *that* young when it comes to having kids. ",
"im a recently new dad. the feeling is nothing like i can describe. makes me appreciate my dad a lot more. my mom can rot for all i care tho",
"Underrated comment",
"They are a lot better now with spending when all of us have grown up. They only have to support my little sitter (20 years old) now due to her going to college. Didn't help when so many families were hit hard back in the 08/09 time. ",
"I could have saved the sarcasm, I agree.",
"I'm there with you buddy, not all of us were that lucky.",
"I can tell this with my mom... Now that I'm an adult and have a job, I'm saving up to get her and I away from my dad. \n\nHe's chill and goofy most of the time... But he also refuses to take his medication, so he blows up at the tiniest of things sometimes, and there's no predicting what it will be either. One day, it's fine to let the dogs out a couple minutes late because I was getting to a stopping point in my game, the next time I am a terrible person and I'm just wasting time on the computer to torture the dogs, and I will never be able to take care of animals on my own because I'll neglect them to death. I think they can hold their pee for five minutes, how dare I...\n\nThough if it was just that, it might not be as big of a deal... He also gets abusive when he gets upset like that. I was slammed into the bar for drawing in my mashed potatoes with a fork, whipped with a belt for not flushing the toilet (it wasn't even me, it was the fucking cat!), berated for saying the word 'crap,' like it's a legit swear word, choked for I don't even remember what, slapped and thrown out of the house for several hours (wearing only a t-shirt, leggings, and socks in freezing temperatures) for calling the cops because I was afraid of him hurting my mom in one of his episodes he was having. There's more, much more. Including him molesting me twice that I can remember, once when I was about 6, another when I was about 13 I think.\n\nWhile I realize for most parents, their children are their world, it's unfortunately not a universal truth. How I wish it was though. Granted, I guess I should count myself lucky I wasn't flat out raped. Sorry for probably depressing anyone reading this. \n\nEdit: spelling",
"First it started after I joined the military. We had something in common and shared stories. Then just little hobbies over the past few years.\n\nMainly, we are like friends now because we talk a lot, not necessarily hang out at a bar, go fishing, and all that lol.\n\nBut really, just gotta understand that it’s weird for them too. In many cases, I bet they resent the past (their actions) and probably feel the same like you in the situation.\n\nIt’s definitely not a fast process and requires a lot of effort. To me, that man spent 18 years supporting me, so a few years of reaching out weekly (or monthly at first) is just crumbs compared to many hours a week to support me as a kid.\n\nRelationships in any form take time and dedication. Repairing a broken relationship takes even longer. You’ll get there. Don’t give up. ",
"My brother is light skinned and I'm tan. I once asked my mom if that was because he came out the normal way and I came out of her butt...",
"He made this for more tips",
"In short, no. In my jurisdiction (Ohio), if the will leaves the spouse anything less than what they would get if the will didn’t exist, they can take the elective share. The other beneficiaries would likely have their shares that are set forth in the will reduced proportionately.",
"But you are a Taxi Driver ",
"Absolutely. You know he was killing for that yogurt but he’d rather it go to his child. ",
"I would have got a good laugh from that and probably would have lifted my spirits a bit honestly ",
"It makes me sick to my stomach when I see stories about parents working hard for their children, like someone forced them to have children??? This shitpost has over 105k upvotes... see how fucking irrational people are?? And you get downvoted for stating simple truth. ",
"I recently had a daughter and even though I know I love her... I have the feeling something hasn't clicked inside of me yet. I see her more as my gfs baby than mine I think",
"😂😂😂😂👌👌👌👌",
"If I had gold to give. You would get it. I have recently became a dad, and I already know that I would do anything within my power to give my little girl the best life possible. Obviously you parents had the same idea. I commend them for that.",
"That's true! I was younger when we had our first. :)",
"I’m proud of you man. I don’t know you but I know you are trying to be a good father. ",
"Saved. Lovely!",
"Man, I'm so glad to hear it all turned out OK. I had a bad feeling your story was gonna go dark.\n\nDuring my wife's pregnancy, we had that routine hormone screening done early on. If certain hormones spike it often correlates to a specific problem. They said they'd only let us know if they found something, so no news was good news.\n\nMy wife's phone rings early one morning on our day off. We were sleeping in, so my wife is setting up in bed mostly listening to whoever it is who called. As soon as the call is over, my wife breaks down crying. Apparently the test was positive for Down Syndrome. The next step was to have a level two ultrasound, but they didn't have an opening for two weeks.\n\nWe go out to dinner that night and all I could think about was the health of my unborn child and how I'd always taken it for granted that whenever I had kids that they'd be healthy. I mean, you wonder about eye color, athleticism, etc., not genetic health. I scrambled to the internet to do all the research I could. One of of twenty women tested positive for DS and over 90% of those were false positives. So the numbers were definitely in our favor. I was still terrified.\n\nBaby looked great via the ultrasound, so the tech and doctor said that everything looked fine, but we wouldn't know for sure unless we did an amniocentesis, which carried along with it a small chance of losing the baby. We passed on it.\n\nSon was born perfectly healthy, thankfully. My heart goes out to the parents and kids who had different outcomes. ",
"I know childless Uber drivers who do this. ",
"Damn.\n\nReading that makes me want to work hard and that's not even my child.",
"aye right",
"Except this is from Singapore, where there is no tipping culture. ",
"Seriously? Big Taxi is a thing now? Jesus Christ. ",
"Thank you so much for letting me know about that! In our case, we’re (thankfully) not in need of help to buy our kids what we want them to have, in spite of our financial stresses. It’s more of a conscious choice on our part not to go hog-wild at Christmas time. We’re trying to keep the holiday a little less materialistic, I guess. We’re doing the thing where, from us, the kids each get “something to wear, something to read, something you want, something you need.” So that’s basically one toy. And Santa brought each kid three things this year (all bought on consignment - they don’t care). To try to fill out under the tree a little more, I put some of the toys they already have stashed in and among the wrapped gifts. I said the old toys were welcoming the new toys. \n\nBut they ended up getting so much from their grandparents and aunts and uncles, that they still both ended up getting piles of loot. I’m just worried they might start to wonder why Santa in particular gives so much more to other kids than them. \n\nBTW I’m not trying to make it seem like I have somehow succeeded in having less toys in my kids’ lives; I shop a huge consignment sale twice a year, and I always go overboard (I give the toys as gifts for occasions throughout the year or special prizes for good behavior). Our house is filling up with a toy stew. It’s a problem. They have WAY more than they need. ",
"I was joking",
"Grade A tipbait",
"Because you can’t control it, becoming a parent changes you and you’ll fall completely in love with your child and they become your everything ",
"My cousin who just became a father asked if my dad had any fatherly advice... He said no and that its just \"a poor investment, they're little shits and then they get older and you start to like them and then they leave you and barely call..\" ",
"Okay I live in Australia and I don’t think they’d fire someone for stealing tp here lol",
"To my sister Mary I leave my love and affection. \n\nThats what we do down here in the south. We are polite even in death. ",
"Family argues that the deceased was not of spund mind when they wrote it. Since they aren't there to defend their decision it can be overturned in court. ",
"If anyone in my family gave this to me I would give them thousands. They would also become my favorite child.",
"Do children write in English to their parents there? ",
"Yes, they speak English in Singapore as well as Chinese and Malay. ",
"I cringe when I think about being an ungrateful pain in the ass to my parents.\n\nBeing there for my dad when he died was so hard but it made it so much easier feeling like I showed him how much I loved him. Whenever I get upset about it I remember taking his hand and telling him I was there for him. \n\n",
"Well, I am on a mission from God.",
"Sorry, I don't follow? ",
"Oh, so you're a loser.\n\nYou'll get no sympathy from me, you made your choices, now sleep with them.",
"Relevent username. Well done sir",
"Nope, sorry. ",
"I'm a man of culture ",
"\"I sold drugs and dropped out of school, instead of working hard, and I lie to everybody, saying I did it so I could eat!\"\n\nBitch you know damn well they give you two free meals at school.\n\nYou'll get no sympathy from me, you made shit choices, hung out with shit people, and you are in fact a fucking loser.",
"1v1 me IRL cunt ill rek ur mum m80",
"Even your name screams fucking loser.\n\n\"2hoodrich4me\"\n\nJesus, how often do you shoplift? How often do you do drugs? Are you even trying to better yourself? \n\nProbably fucking not. \n\nI'd bet (real money) that you're on the fast track to jail, if you haven't been there already.\n\nFucking. Loser.",
"Yeah, you are right. I wasn’t going to see my dad today but I’m actually at his house right now with my sister. ",
"It’s nice when people get encouragement and support from their family, doesn’t matter if it’s an astronaut or a taxi driver ",
"Yep, it is normal. If you decide to have kids, you will understand. Kids aren't for everyone though. They straight up fucking suck sometimes. ",
"I feel like this is intentionally there to receive better tips. ",
"Fair point.\n\nWould you have Hyundai taxi's? Or are they mostly those ol' timey black cabs. ",
"K",
"Too long did not read",
"What a powerful piece of text! Bravo sir! ",
"Do it for her ",
"I can see why they downvote me - it *might* somehow sounded like as if I was a crazy racist who doesn't like taxi drivers coming into the country and outbreeding the locals? Though my point is same as yours, as in showing off you're working hard to feed your kids is worse than cutting your leg off and asking people feel bad for you because you now have to use crutches; worse in that by sawing off a leg the person harms himself only, while having kids (especially if one's poor) harms them too.",
"That's great to hear! There has to be a balance between being financially/romantically/spiritually/emotionally happy, and I'm just starting to figure out what works for me. The lucrative job was nice because I could afford big trucks and TV's, but even with a house full of junk, I felt empty inside. I now live more modestly and am honestly much happier than I was when I was \"well off\".",
"I love my wife but i would kill for my daughter. \n\ngreat write up, keep up the good work.",
"Reminds me of a saying that went along the lines of, \"You will always want what you don't have.\" Had I started in higher ed, I probably would've gone corporate for the experience, but would've returned to higher ed. It didn't take long for me to feel burned out, like you're a cog in the machine that is making someone else tons of money.",
"It took me longer than I'd like to admit. I can't take money to the grave. But what I teach others will continue to live on inside them and those that they teach, long after I'm gone.",
"It was definitely a risk to leave a (reasonably) stable well-paying job. But I felt a sense of relief after I sold most of the junk that I bought during that time and moved into a more modest place. I realized that I just bought stuff because I could, and not because I enjoyed using any of it.",
"You're arguing in favor of having an indentured slave class. Even if you don't directly take part in it, you should accept the fact that you're at the very least a surrogate for the people who do. You have a strong pro-exploitation position, even if it's just at the philosophical level and you're not personally working some guy 60 hours a week for $2/hr. You wouldn't have inserted yourself into this conversation otherwise.",
"Yup - you never know. I'm 42, married and child-free, and I've never regretted it. Just gotta do what's right for you. ",
"Yours will come, my friend.",
"I genuinely say thank you for what you do. Teachers are one of if not thee most important professionals/people working today. ",
"It should be pointed out that the \"love\" doesn't always happen. Fact is, the most common killer and abuser of a child is a parent. And yes, there are plenty who regret having kids. It's better to regret not having kids, imo, and the worst is when the kid regrets being born. Let's see how much love is left when the kid hits puberty and screeches I HATE YOU. ",
"I can't speak for India, but many Dept. of Transpts in large U.S cities require taxi drivers to be enrolled in drug testing programs. ",
"\"It's called fathin\"",
"A cunning ploy by an Uber driver to get tips is all !! ",
"I live in America and someone at my father's company was fired for it. Theft is theft, they don't give a fuck. ",
"Or you hate the child's guts but it's too late to do anything\n",
"Speaking from experience? 😂",
"Ahhhh I want to cry now. Well again, the post itself made me want to cry. Reminds me of my dad and how grateful I am for him. I wouldn't be starting my 6th semester of college with no debt without him ",
"Lmao you read it, and I'm not wrong.",
"I mean, that is more likely then what \"feels good\", but who am i to rain on people's parades. ",
"How long u wanna keep doing this for? I need to pencil you in between ODs and jail bids. ",
"I'm not wrong. \n\nI'll bet you're \"urban\" too.\n\n",
"I find mindless breeding disgusting. I recently descovered antinatalism, and it's comforting to know that there are people who share similar views. :) ",
"You're very welcome! But I'm not a teacher. I'm an IT administrator, who just happens to have the pleasure of having a staff made up mostly of student employees. I show them what I know, let them connect the dots from what they've learned in class, and watch them walk out the door and make their own careers.",
"> Plus, I have a pretty good scotch collection, so I have my crutch. :)\n> \n> \n\nThat's she will break into and steal to give to her shady boyfriend.",
"Black cabs in and around the city mostly. Can’t say I’ve seen a lot of Hyundai taxis tbh but it’s not something I’ve been looking for much ",
"Apology Accepted Taxi Driver",
"The first 9-12 months are the difficult part (ymmv)... then it gets easier and soon becomes absolutely awesome.\n\nOur daughter is almost 2 at this time. When she was 1 year old (the first year was so terrible), we swore that we will only have the one child. Then, she started walking, talking, interacting, singing, dancing, playing, enjoying our company, hugging, etc etc.\n\nNow, we have started thinking seriously about a second and possibly a third kid.",
"I didn't ask if they speak English, but if the children communicate intimately with their parents by writing in English. ",
"> And I think that the overwhemling love diminishes as they get older, move out, move on.\n\nGood god I hope not. I didn't post in the thread last week about the guy sad over his son going away to college but I am the same way. I'm unbelievably proud of him and what he's doing. He's got a good start. My daughter too - she commutes to college, thus the loss isn't as acute yet, but I can still feel it. When she talks about how she will move out (which has to happen, of course) it feels like someone has ripped off my arm and then beat me with it. I cried when I drove away from my son's new place a few weeks ago and am not at all embarrassed about it. I'm glad that I care enough. That they matter. And they always will.\n\nI told my daughter the other day in an overdue heart to heart that I \"loved her and her brother more than air\", because it was the only thing that I could think of to cover the incredible depth of my feelings for them. They are the blood in my veins and the air in my lungs. The reason I get up every day and do whatever it is I have to do. ",
"Why wouldn't they? ",
"because it is not their first language, not their mother tongue? ",
"And if they're native English speakers? ",
"Of course! I am certainly not a \"you must have kids it's amazeballs\" type. Not everyone wants or can have them, and those people get to enjoy different aspects of life I do not! It's one of many paths, one that I find challenging but ultimately rewarding. Like training for a marathon - it's hard, it takes time it leaves scars, but you learn from it, enjoy it, and hopefully you don't die of a heart attack before finishing :)\n\nCheers!!",
"Dammit! I'll have to drink it all before then, and replace the bottles with brown water of questionable origin. Let the little shit learn a lesson about touching my scotch!!",
"Yeah! That! ",
"I hope it doesn't go away, but changes. I'd like to get to a point in my life where if I don't see my daughter for a day my heart doesn't ache. It's better for both of us!\n\nCheers!",
"I had kids a little older, early and mids 30s, my wife and I. We had an instance for our second child where ultrasound picked up something close to end range of 'normal'. I think it was the neck measurement for downs syndrome. That night lying in bed, everything I had/enjoyed in my 20s and 30s was all worthless when I thought of the miniscule increase in percentage (exagerrating but like .00001%) of haviing a child with downs syndrome due to being an older parent. I would have given it all away (money, childfree and carefree years) just to have a tiny shot of him being born healthy and normal. Luckily he was born ok.\n",
"I would add to that, endurance and the will to just carry on. Absolutely you are tired and stressed out so often but the fact that you are still functioning with half the sleep as before for days/weeks/mths is crazy. Its not good of course but some how you get by with far less sleep than what you had before.",
"Yeah that",
"People like the guy you are replying to genuinely worry me. They are the kind of people that ruin nice things for everyone. \"This is why we can't have nice things\"",
"You are a complete idiot. I can't even add more. Just go read a book or something I dunno. Jesus Christ.",
"\"...and all the pussy I can handle\" was the correct response as an owner of a Razor scooter :)",
"Doubt it. This is from Singapore, they don't really have a tipping culture there. ",
"Down votes? That's disappointing. ",
"She’s gotten 1 to 3 gifts.\n(Some) Mexican and other Spanish speaking countries celebrate El Dia de Reyes. (Reyes/Magi are the gift givers, not Santa). It closes the Christmas festivities, as the 12 days of Christmas should really be celebrated after Christmas. \nOn 1/6 we eat a Rosca (like a round coffee cake), where a small baby Jesus is hidden. Who ever get the slice with the baby inside has to host the next celebration in Feb 2 Candlemas day (which we don’t celebrate). My family didn’t necessarily follow this whole tradition, but I think it’s a good way to tie in faith & cultural tradition to the holiday season.",
"Beautiful. Thank you ",
"Yeah for calling out some /r/thathappened shit? You're the douche for believing and upvoting crap like that. ",
"What a caring kid. She/He cares for his hard work.",
"Calm down lmao. It’s not worth crying about I promise haha",
"r/unethicallifeprotips",
"For one, families could survive off of a minimum wage job and buy a house. Now the cost of living and income disparity is so high that the average person can work 60 hrs/wk and still not have enough. Meanwhile billionaire corporations can continue to profit and exploit their labor force while our government protects them and gives them tax cuts while blaming our economic problems on immigration policy. The only crime they've committed is wanting a better life.",
"> For one, families could survive off of a minimum wage job and buy a house. Now the cost of living and income disparity is so high that the average person can work 60 hrs/wk and still not have enough.\n\nIllegal immigration is a massive factor in this. Wages are artificially depressed because we are flooded with 3rd world slave labor. Many billionaire corporations are pro-illegal immigrant because they like having an exploitable slave class that will work for pennies.\n\n>The only crime they've committed is wanting a better life.\n\nFactually incorrect. They have also committed the crime of illegally immigrating into this country. Additionally, the ones who work under the table are guilty of income tax evasion, and the ones who work with falsified W2s are guilty of identity theft. They have to go back.",
"I admit that I'm biased, having grown up in a border city full of diverse communities has made me more sympathetic. I'm so sorry that I came off like that, but where I live most of these jobs are occupied by non-whites because they're easier to get when there's a language barrier. In a city plagued with homelessness and economic disparity, I can drive by the local Home Depot and see 20 guys just desperate to work. Reducing someone to their legal status is not something I can stand behind.",
"The feels",
"I agree with you to an extent but fail to see illegal immigration as the greater problem. Our government protects billionaires and corporations so much that they'd rather lower taxes for them than raise the minimum wage. People risk their lives to come here in the hopes of a better life. Fortunately I will never know what it's like to be so desperate to help my family that it involves me risking my life in the process but the most I can do is empathize and understand why they're here rather than focus on the legality of it.",
"Do iT FoR hEr.",
"> How is it safe to drive for 48 hours straight? ... I don't understand.\n\nWhat makes you think it is?\n\nIndia: Beacon of Road Safety!",
"I have step kids that I love tremendously and dote over and give them everything they need. I do more for them than their own mother, heck they only see her 4 days a month. I thought I understood how much a parent loved their child, but I recently had a daughter. I treat all my kids the same but my body physically reacts to her. When she cries I get anxious and sweaty, when she smiles I get this happiness radiating from my inner core, when she babbles my heart feels like someone is squeezing it. It feels quite literally like my heart now lives outside of my body, she is my heart. If there was ever a choice for me to take any pain from her and put it on myself I would in a heartbeat. I think it's a feeling that you just can't understand until it's there.",
"I'm 27 and had an accidental baby, he's almost 2 now. I did not want kids. Not at fucking all. And it's like the other post said, you just love and provide as much as you can, and it's really really really rough for the first few months. then one day they look up at you and smile and everything fucking changes. You start to see them developing into a little you. You get to show them every wonderful amazing thing you love for their very first time. ",
"Do we have the same dad? ",
"Oh, my heart",
"TIL That you can type two crosses: t T",
"why is everyone posting dad love pictures recently?",
"For those saying this is tip bait, this reposted image is from Singapore, where I am from. There is no tipping culture in Singapore. ",
"Twist - He doesn't have kids.",
"Because of Sir Mix-a-Lot?",
"As a counter-example, it took me a while to feel the same for my daughter. When she was born it was hard to see her as an actual person, because she was just a little lump that didn't do anything. It took months before the bond was completely in place.",
"Sweetness he loves you no matter what. Maybe see someone to be sure you don't have depression ok? Parental love IS unconditional. ",
"I think that's perfectly normal -not that I expect you're looking for my opinion on it :). But mom's have months to kind of grow and adjust. dad's kind of have to hit the ground sprinting, and they just get a wriggly pink thing that is attached to mom, while we just.. change diapers. Hell even mom's have a hard time adjusting and accepting that pink thing ... Just because it's yours doesn't mean it always jumps into your heart. \n\nAll this shit is weird chemicals and stupidity but thankfully it works more often than not :)",
"I’m sorry. It’s not always easy to get your parents to open up. It wasn’t easy with my mom either. It came as an explosion of emotion and tears, but then we kinda talked about what was going on. She’s not the easiest person to talk to, man. 😂 I’m thankful af about it though because it has brought us close together. ",
"I'm 31 and I've heard the same things from my doctors over the years. Tried antibiotics, which did fuck all. After two rounds of different antibiotics, doctors basically said, \"I don't think you need to worry about it, it's really not that serious.\"\n\nThere aren't that many pictures of me, and I don't like nearly any of them. I still discreetly hide from cameras, or pull a funny face if I can't.\n\nIt never occurred to me that there might be another option.",
"Accutane has, or potentially has serious side effects, however.. don’t be fed a load of shit for years like I was, be sure to see a dermatologist.\nYou may need to alter your diet, change habits, or need something stronger like accutane, but you need to push to get people to take it seriously.\nMy acne has just about cleared up, thank god after many years of avoiding the camera, not taking my top off at the beach, not taking my kids swimming due to embarrassment, but I’m scarred for life, something some doctors do not consider.",
"I mean, it's also not 16 hours of back to back pick ups and whatnot.",
"I have a little girl.. can confirm. Would do anything and everything to make sure she is happy, safe and loved. Sometimes i am so proud of her i get tears in my eyes. ",
"Or... A very clever way to make people tip?",
"Everyone says it will be a wonderful, life-changing experience, but clearly there are also a shit ton of abusive parents who hurt their children on a daily basis. I think it's a gamble too & wish more people would talk about that side.",
"This reminds me of Ben Rector’s song “The Men Who Drive Me Places.”\n\nI wasn’t in love with the song on my first listen through the album—but after Ben introduced it live and talked about the man who inspired the song (working hard so his kids can go to college), I tested up listening to it. ",
"This reminds me of people who fish for karma with repost and the repost of said reposts highest comment."
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A note hanging from this taxi driver's steering wheel
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[
"so?",
"Only to create...a flight attending pilot. ",
"He landed his jumbo into her runway MIRITE?",
"goals right here",
"Your dad looks like they just joined the mile high club.",
"Taxied it right into her hangar.",
"I bet she loved his cockpit",
"Eventually",
"The people downvoting simply don’t belong on Reddit.",
"You should ask them if you were conceived on a airplane. ",
"You're probably a mile high baby",
"Lol I feel like most people choose their jobs considering benefits, retirement plans and wage but nurses, secretaries and flight attendants do it to snatch a rich provider.",
"was going to ask if you were Australian, but I saw your spelling of mum. \n\nyour parents look crazily like someone I used to rent a room off and babysat their kids a couple times.",
"Yes because nurses aren’t extremely caring people who are overworked and underpaid right...? \n\nQuit being an arsehole. ",
"It does get in",
"ohh wow ",
"Airborne and never forlorn.",
"I’m cool with it.",
"Their spouses must have been pissed.",
"They met in the cockpit and joined the mile high club.",
"She was his cock pit..."
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Mom was a flight attendant, dad was a pilot.
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/r/pics/comments/7rwl2f/hey_yo_i_drew_rocky/
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[
"Nice",
"Awesome shading. Do Rambo next! ",
"Good idea!",
"PM me if you do, please! :D",
"Adrian!",
"Gonna do a montage?",
"Hey yo! I love it!",
"Thanks!",
"amazing painting ",
"I like it very much",
"Nice! Kind of looks like Eminem with a wig too.",
"Very nice job, n the shading looks perfect!!!! Keep at it ,you have a talent.",
"Thanks so much!!!",
"Hahaha",
"Thanks!",
"Thank you!"
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Hey yo! I drew rocky
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[
"she should move to iran and see what kinda rights woman have.",
"What the actual fuck? ",
"Planned Parenthood supporters: It’s my right to kill the person inside me!\n\nCommon sense: What about the rights of that person you’re trying to kill?",
"Yeah they should be happy that we allow them to have any at all. If they don't calm their tits we can just take what they are allowed now away.",
"As far as I understood women have more rights than men by law in the west due to family courts etc.\n\nUnless anybody can point me to any laws which give men more rights?",
"What rights are you lacking? ",
"That's a weak argument. I kinda get what you mean because I'm a realist, but what if i said, go to North Korea and see what rights you have as a democratic capitalist. You see how it suddenly becomes ridiculous?",
"Free access to a gym?",
"Also correct, but women's rights are more regulated. Again I see both sides. A quick glance at my post history will show how I have argued against the extreme nature of the me too movement, but yall need to come with more researched arguments. Feminists too. U can't just ignore that the whole women make less than men stat has been doctored up, and we as men can't pretend it doesn't exist to a degree. I promise you all, there exists a middle ground in which we can all reside. It's a happy and reasonable place we can all be a part of. This goes for you too reds and blues.",
"Persepective matters dude. \n\n\nWhen you count a parasitic organ as a human plays a big part in it, do you count potential or current status? \nIf potential, is a period killing a baby and is jizzing into a sock mass murder?\n\nIf current status, where do you draw the line? Centience? Departure of womb?\n\n\nThere's a lot of questions but the answer is considerably easier than people put accross.\n\n\nAre you one of the parents or their medical professional? No? You have no input here",
"Your argument is basically that no one should criticize America. I really don't think if I take a look at your post history that's going to be something that you'll pass the test on.",
"How do you downvote a plea for compromise? The fuck is wrong with people? I gave all parties involved a little boost, while also asking for everyone to be as informed as possible.",
"Your failure to understand the issue is comical. At what point does a fetus transcend to the status of person is the argument. Did I really need to explain that?",
"I didn't downvote you, but I suspect it was because your post didn't actually propose a compromise, you just said 'look at me, I have mixed views' without actually adding anything to the conversation.",
"I guess thats true?! Again, womens rights are highly regulated in this country in comparison to mens rights. That was my first sentence. Will you acknowledge that or have some kind of counter? Yes after that, I seized an opportunity to make an argument for peace. It has nothing to do with trying to stand out. I know it sounds weird, but i have an actual interest in guiding people to reasonable conversation. This isn't facebook. I'm still essentially anonymous. Please, I beg you to make your case on civil rights regarding women, but while you do, i hope you can just state your case and not attack. Thats all I'm trying to accomplish.\n\nEdit: guess i should have acknowledged your words as well. No i don't have a specific compromise in mind to mend the enormous rift that exists amongst gender politics of modern America. I only ask that we attempt to find one and listen to each other. It would be foolhardy to assume I had the answer, and anyone that tries to tell you they have the ultimate solution to major world issues is delusional. Not to mention, asking opposing sides of an issue to scale back a bit and talk it out in the modern age is the biggest fuckin compromise concievable.",
"> womens rights are highly regulated in this country in comparison to mens rights\n\nwhat does that even mean",
"Well, if you look at all the laws on the books that pertain specifically to women compared to laws that pertain specifically to men, you will see a vast chasm between the two numbers. Womens choices in this world are under constant legislation, and will always be hot button issues in political campaigns around the world.",
"Can you give some examples?",
"Well basically everything women have to deal with that men don't has legal regulations. From tampons and childbirth to breast exams and gyno visits. They have their own tax codes and legalities that don't exist for men. Not to mention amendments to the constitution just to be considered equals. I'm not sure if you are just trolling or are genuinely curious, but its almost 6 am where I am at. I am no expert on any of this shit, but I am willing to research the actual legal documents I speak of, just not right now. I hope all the effort I have put forth is somewhat satisfactory, but if not, tomorrow is another day my friend.",
"That's a pretty well drawn dick",
"NSFW",
"Edgy",
"> If current status, where do you draw the line? Centience? Departure of womb?\n\n\nThat’s the question that needs to be answered. At what point is the baby **ALIVE**? We know the baby can survive outside of the womb at 20-22 weeks. The baby is probably alive considerably sooner than that.\n\n\n>Are you one of the parents or their medical professional? No? You have no input here\n\n\nIt’s a legislative issue so if I vote. I have input.",
"wait there are laws dealing with tampons? child birth? breast exams? and gyno visits? so if you don't see the gyno you are charged with a crime? if you abort your baby you are charged with murder? I am confused.\nThere is not a single law on the book that disadvantages women. there are laws on the books, and practices by law officials, that disadvantage men though. I was in an abusive relationship. She would be the shit out of me, when finally cops were called, who do you think spent the night in a cell? it was not her! When I finally left her what battered shelter for men do you think I went to? none, because there is none for men! I lived out of my car for about a month till I had family help me. family courts are set up so that men very rarely get custody of their children. How many women do you know that pay alimony? \nAs for the pay gap there is no pay gap, there is an earnings gap, but no pay gap. The study that often gets refered to when dealing with this topic says women make .77 to a mans dollar, however that study does not take into account hours worked (on average men work more hours) how long they have been in the same job (someone working there 10 years will make more then someone working there 1 year) jobs actually worked (comparing doctors to janitors) life decisions, the fact that on average more women choose to go into nursing instead of being a surgeon, No one holds a gun to their head and says choose what to take in university (where over %60 of students are women) and if they choose surgery they are told can't choose that one you are a woman! Women have agency and are able to choose what they do with their lives! they are strong and able to be in any profession they so choose! when you have a man and woman working the same job same hours same length of time employeed they make the same money! don't believe me? go ask your HR department? show me the company that is breaking the Equal Pay Act of 1963 and lets go get them together, but you won't be able to because it has been a law since 1963. Besides we all complain how greedy these fat cap corporate capitilists are right? if they could get away with paying women that much less or less at all, don't you think logically that all the companies out there would only hire women? Think how much they would save!",
"It looks like this post is about US Politics. Various methods of filtering out content relating to US Politics can be found [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/wiki/v2/resources/filter/politics).\n\n*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/pics) if you have any questions or concerns.*",
"Jesus fuck what is wrong with these people. Watch where you wave that sign there are kids around. \nThe only thing that sign communicates to me is her lack of education. I would have snatched that thing from her and shoved it into the trash where it belongs.\nI shake my head in disgust.",
"Wait, which women's right is regulated more than a mans?",
"Wait, men's products don't have taxes? WTF are you talking about? "
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Size matters (Women’s March in SF)
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[
"You shall not pass. ",
"If you have bolt cutters maybe.",
"You sure about that?",
"No\nNo No\nNo No No\nNo No No\nNo No\nNo\n",
"Liquid nitrogen and a hammer would be a lot faster. \n\nDisclaimer: I sometimes think like a criminal, but I'm not.",
"Fair enough ",
"Even for those who have the keys, it's gonna take a good half hour to open that up.",
"You have to first go to 12 different rooms and complete 12 tasks to uncover keys in each room."
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May I come in?
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[
"Did he say if the cd drive was fixed",
"I was so caught up in seeing it in person, I didn’t ask. He did have a little TV set up with what looked like Street Fight going.The CD in the picture is the only CD I can remember being on the table. The rest were cartridges like the one inserted. ",
"Kind of dumb though. You could have the exact same experience on a nintendo or a playstation. If this is rare it would make more sense for it to be in a case.",
"I spoke to the and his words are, he’s rather people be able to play rather than put in a case. He travels the world showing to gamers like myself. I appreciated that he took the time to talk about it. When was the last time we saw and could play Nintendo 0 or Atari 0 or Genesis 0. He doesn’t seem like the greedy type. If so, he would have sold it a long time ago. This guy let’s folks play it which is cool enough for me. ",
"Whats nintendo 0? An NES? I have one and still play it. You can get one on ebay for not that much. \n\nAll im saying is the game experience is not going to be different. If thats a rare console it would more sense to preserve it and play the games on a regular system. But w/e, its his he can do what he wants."
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Went to the Retro City and snapped a pic of the Nintendo/PlayStation. Met owner Terry Diebold. I asked if he ever got an offer on it. He said, “Yeah, I got offered a million last week for it”. Why didn’t he take it? “Because it would end up in a case and no one would ever get to play it”, he said.
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[
"Uhhh, is this not normal? I live in AK so sea ice is errwherrr",
"Great fishing!! Going out next weekend.",
"Yeah, normal, but was walking pass and thought I'd share the view.",
"Oh, I thought you were highlighting the cold as shit temps in the lower 48.",
"No, it's beautiful right now! Walking temp."
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Near the port of Green Bay, WI
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[
"#metoo",
"I've never developed a taste for any kind of whiskey. Tastes like fucking gasoline to me. I'm sure it's great if you like it, but I can't understand it. ",
"so...don't hold back on sexual assault and alcoholism.",
"For my first drink of the day. 1 shot of quality bourbon with one large ice cube. \nLet it sit for about 10 minutes and soften the edge. After my first drink I order neat. \nReduces the \"I think I'm drinking fucking gasoline \" effect.",
"Why not just drink something that tastes good in the first place? ",
"I assure you most beverages taste worse when highly concentrated than they do if you add some water\n\ni wonder if you can even buy (fruit) juice concentrate, or if that's just a shipping method",
"Apparently it helps you become president, who knew",
"Bourbon tastes like chemical soup. Single Malt tastes, well, a lot more and more organic. Give Lagavulin a try the next time you're in a fairly fancy bar. \n\nAdding a couple of drops of water will add even more intensity to the smells and flavors - but that's optional. ",
"[You can buy juice concentrate](https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/ccc7e3d6-681c-4d43-9268-4a108403d13e_1.a527e449530c874e36592182ae7ba866.jpeg)",
"-Harvey Weinstein",
"If your bourbon tastes like chemical soup, you might be buying the wrong shit",
"I've had 18-yo Glenlivet. I could tell it was smoother, but still not a fan. But that just leaves more for the people who appreciate it! ",
"I totally understand... cocktails call for specific kinds of ice -- cubes, cracked, crushed, shaved -- to get the right amount of ice to melt before pouring off the cocktail. This is why people shouldn't keep gin and vodka in the freezer. I get all that, and I've tried scotch and bourbon with ice. Just not a fan. Also yes, you can buy frozen concentrated fruit juice at the grocery store. ",
"Zing",
"Yeah. You've tried some good whisky, so it's just not for you. "
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Wise words
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/r/pics/comments/7rwqol/my_friend_got_this_letter_about_logan_paul_in_her/
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[
"this sounds like something a little kid would make",
"I feel like that's some bad shit what's his doing. He's basically saying keep buying my merch.",
"Who is Jake Paul?",
"I made lots of mistakes but didn't subject thousands to seeing it or profiting off it"
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My Friend got this letter about Logan Paul in her Mailbox. We live in Australia.
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[
"Sounds like a threat",
"It means you need to bleed your radiators funnily enough.",
"You need to release the air from the radiators. Otherwise they won't fill with water and won't work as efficiently. If the central heating is on and only the lower half of some or all the radiators are hot (downstairs radiators may be fine, but upstairs are not) then it definitely needs to be done. \n\nGo to your B&Q and get a radiator key. Turn the square looking bolt on the side at the top of half filled rad to release the air. Watch out for water squirting out. Close it when that happens. (It will be black and nasty)\n\nThis will also result in your boiler pressure dropping. Need to refill that up to 1 bar, too.",
"/u/stevethewindow, thank you for your submission. Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule IV - Title violates title guidelines.\n\nYour title must not ask for general information or feedback. \n\nYou can read the full information about our title guidelines at /r/pics/w/titles\n\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/stevethewindow&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rwqqa/mystery_boiler_fault_code_what_does_it_mean/?context=10\\))"
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Mystery boiler fault code, what does it mean?
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[
"That's some nice hair right there",
"Maybe she's barn with it, maybe its neighbelline.",
"Hi Britney! ",
"Look at her strutting ",
"If it's not'shopped then I'm really impressed with its swag.",
">Trouble is, he don't mount that filly often enough, and she's starting to notice that the pasture ain't empty of stallions. Know what I mean?” from [Potentate of Walking Horse](https://books.google.com/books?id=wIWn2B4GMigC&pg=SL1-PA198&lpg=SL1-PA198&dq=%22mount+that+filly%22&source=bl&ots=CwH7t55d8F&sig=HulMHJQQoY_bzJYePX5DrPSqSk8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjo8-Lp3OjYAhUIK1AKHR8SDKYQ6AEILDAB#v=onepage&q=%22mount%20that%20filly%22&f=false)",
"Looks like a horse with a Trump wig, it's beauty. ",
"I'm pretty sure that's Nicki Minaj bro",
"https://youtu.be/8GI1lY2uG5M?t=2m9s",
"Always, I want to be with you \nAnd make believe with you \nAnd live in harmony, harmony oh love",
"Fabio’s horse",
"Sebastian Clop",
"I feel like this horse has Owen Wilson's voice ",
"It’s not Fabio on a horse, it’s Fabio _as_ a horse. ",
"That's a barber to keep.",
"Damn there’s like a whole pack there, crazy",
"Strange dog...",
"\nPerhaps it's her stable demeanor?",
"Stop horsing around with this pun train.",
"Why the long face , Sarah Jessica Parker?",
"There's the gait, see yourself out."
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A fabulous horse was spotted in the wilds of Mongolia
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/r/pics/comments/7rwvl4/took_this_photo_in_paris_and_i_just_really_like/
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[
"Great composition. ",
"I can smell the dog shit from here...",
"Not sure if you're a gamer, but in MW3, there's a survival map called resistance. From the right angle, your photo looks very similar to the game. Don't have the game installed right now, but this is the most [similar image I could find](https://goo.gl/images/9en6fb). \n\nNice photo though!",
"stupid question: what about this photo has \"Great composition\"? the way it focus into the middle? if the eiffel tower is removed would this photo still have good composition? ",
"> your right",
">enjoy maybe i think?",
"Perhaps others will disagree but I do like it because it's balanced/symmetrical for everything except the Eiffel tower and at the same time the Eiffel tower being off center keeps it interesting. Without the tower it might be a bit boring.\n\nEdit: the car at the focal point also helps.",
"Dude, there is a car coming. Dude, car! Dude. Car. DUDE, there is a car coming! DUDE,CAR! DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE!!!!",
"It is a beautiful picture",
"The best part about this picture is how well people know how to parallel park in Europe!",
"It's only a good photo if you didn't impede that car coming straight at you. ",
"When I was 18 I went to Paris on a college trip. I hung around with a random group of hipsters while there. We were supposed to go with the other students to the Louvre but ended up getting lost. We ended up down this exact street. When I saw the Eiffel Tower, pretty much exactly here, I realised there is nothing better than going to a different city and getting lost down random streets. ",
"Until you get mugged because you don't know you're in a bad part of the city",
"The best picture if the Eiffel Tower i remember seeing. Nice job! ",
"Huh? What does the quality of art have to do with inconveniencing someone?",
"That's 100% amazing view and makes me wanna visit Paris. Thank you for sharing that.",
"That’s a car",
"Following the rule of thirds is usually a good idea for composition as well",
"Well, that's fine pic. Anyway did it finish before the car came?",
"do you have a higher resolution picture of this? ",
"Nice! Would make a good phone background. ",
"thanks for answering! i didn't notice the car till your comment!",
"It's nothing special about parallel parking. When you have narrow streets and many cars this is the only way how to park as many cars as possible. It's just need to be practiced and people not only America are getting lazier and want everything smart, autonomous and immediately these days - it's coming even over here...",
"makes me feel like Im back on the ground in Twisted Metal 2, ready to turn that tower into a bridge",
"It's not as beautiful if they don't value the rules of the road. Value other people's time. ",
"Art is as inspiring as the person who creates it. Impeding the life of another to create art is not beautiful. ",
"Imo, the tower helps make it more balanced, since the building on the right is a bit taller there is more sky on the left to be covered. ",
"Oh I enjoy it, closest I'll ever get in my lifetime,thanks for sharing!!!🌺",
"Composition is good, exposure is a train wreck.",
"Ok i guess I’ll kind of enjoy maybe? I mean if you say so, i guess. ",
"I'm not even sure how to express how strongly I disagree with you. \n\nLet me get this straight. You genuinely believe that a shitty person can't create a great work of art?",
"Art has nothing to do with that. ",
"Yes. I don't see just a picture. I see life. I see a person driving towards us dead center. It's important to me whether the driver was bothered or not that the artist had some common decency. ",
"You realize that a lot of the great works of art throughout history have been made by shitty people, right?\n\nAs for this photo in particular, I disagree. A picture that could potentially bring feelings to thousands of people is more important than one driver saving a few seconds of his time. If it was an ambulance on the way to a hospital it would obviously be a different thing. ",
"Good point. If this was a photo from OP he might have answered my query. ",
"That reminds me of an old Twisted Metal map on PlayStation",
"You can normally sense that and walk a different direction if you arent brave enough.",
"lol at equating laziness with wanting a menial task to become smart and autonomous.\n\nDo you use a microwave? That’s just laziness, your stove could do that for you in twice as long. \n\nThe hell with washing machines, you better be scrubbing those clothes with soap and a washing board down by the river!",
"I like the grey viewpoint lines made from the cars. I enjoyed this pic. Thanks. ",
"I recently finished a jigsaw puzzle from this view. Neat.",
"That's an awesome picture! And remember, confidence is key.",
"That’s funny! I took the exact same picture when I was on a citytrip in paris :) If only I knew it could get me karma...."
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Took this photo in Paris and I just really like it so I’m sharing it... enjoy maybe i think?
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[
"No, it's a pupper. ",
"Looks like dog",
"It's a the croc god Sobek. ",
"Your username works to well with this",
"Biggest hidden artist fuck you' "
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Look! A snake!
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[
"That's mad. Which application are you using, because that contrast tool sure is selective",
"Thats hilarious, but must be coincidental.",
"It's common that countries depict their leaders on their paper money, so I'm hardly surprised.",
"Cannot unsee. ",
"Space Mohammed? ",
"Thanos chin. $1 bill confirmed for Infinity War.",
"Nah, it's just photoshopped. Take a look at the left image, and compare to an actual dollar bill. You can clearly see the outline of the face that they added, which isn't present on the real thing.",
"This is complete BS. The background color didn't change nor did many parts of the bill. You may be able to do this, but not by increasing contrast ",
"Take a look at the right image and you can see where they crudely shaded it. ",
"For the record, this is what actually happens.\nhttps://m.imgur.com/a/fSmLH",
"Half-Life 3 Confirmed?",
"And add in a little deepdream",
"I for once wellcome our new and old grey overlords.",
"Squidward!?",
"I still kinda see it.",
"Fake but cool",
"I think I speak for everyone when I [say](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKx3JlTnHbc)",
"You... literally didn't increase the contrast one bit. That squidward face was drawn on with markers. Felt-tip markers. Is this real life.",
">when you selectively increase the contrast on a specific spot on a dollar bill. ",
"*the truth is out there*",
"indeed, some advanced software if it ignores everything outside the circle and deletes some parts which would just be brighter with contrast boost",
"damn that’s a nice guitar ",
"i can't un see it"
] | 24 |
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This is what happens when you increase the contrast on a dollar bill.
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[
"He knows you've *sin*ed",
"That’s going on a real tangent there",
"That looks like Calculus."
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Woke up to find God doing algebra on my car
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[
"Until one falls and shatters the glass shelf beneath it.",
"When adjusting the shelves in the fridge is too hard.",
"Youre telling me i dont have to put bottles on racks? Wow i have never been so excited to save myself no effort."
] | 3 |
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The Refrigerator Bottle Loft is pure genius
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[
"That's pretty neat!",
"How late were you for work?",
"That's awesome.",
"Where's the half-eaten bat head",
"How? ",
"You could develop a whole menu...I'd eat there",
"*Have you ever heard the wolf sizzle to the yellow yolk moon?*",
"Now that you're done playing with your food, it's time to wolf it down.",
"is that egg?",
"Meanwhile i can barely make scrambled eggs"
] | 11 |
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Half Boil Moon
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[
"They even come in a cookie jar. You can't tell me this isn't sending kids mixed messages.",
"Next they'll be rolling joints with bounce sheets. Fucking kids are really stupid at times nowadays.",
"Like you for posting this"
] | 3 |
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Target is trying to take advantage of a recent trend
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[
"Some people like sharing their experience, and are still able to enjoy the moment. \n\nNobody is saying that you personally have to share everything. They are just letting people know their social-media handles through this banner.",
"Way to follow directions, OP!",
"You mean don't. Enjoy. The. Moment."
] | 3 |
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And don't enjoy the moment
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[
"He should get into politics",
"Marty McFly?",
"It's a g-g-g-ghost!",
"Marty is his brother, messing around with this guy's existence. ",
"It was all a dream",
"Aren't we all a little bit?",
"r/meirl ",
"Achievement unlocked.\nLooking at the ghost in real life.",
"It looks like you took a picture through a plexiglass windscreen at a bus stop. ",
"Clearly he's not.",
"Who you gonna call?",
"It looks like you are right ",
"Mr. Cellophane ",
"mirror click ",
"Translucent.",
"He's desperately trying to send a group text to his future mom and dad to get them to hook up."
] | 16 |
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It looks like this guy is transparent
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[
"Is it? Is it really...",
"Cowboy sandals. For snek protection and yee-haw mobility scooters.",
"What are thooooose!!!",
"Sadly, This would be a hot seller in my state",
"r/CrappyDesign",
"Jesus boots."
] | 7 |
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The Latest Fashion
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[
"[we’ve all gone too big too fast and then run out of room](https://youtu.be/n1QNC4vAaC8) ",
"Then explain to me why I can undress when I'm not wearing a dress. /r/badlinguistics?\n\n",
"Someone was over confidant with the \"It Was\"",
"IT WAS NEVѤß A DRESS.",
"He should really put on pants..\n"
] | 5 |
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It was never a dress
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[
"Cute couple. Hehe",
"Congrats\n\n/r/girlsmirin ",
"Congrats! All the best!",
"Congratulations!",
"r/Facebook ",
"Woodruff Park (and Y'all) looking good in the icy weather! ",
"Go post it to Facebook then it's actually designed for stuff like this. Reddit is not the place for this kind of thing.\n\nEdit: apparently you all are being overly sensitive today. Twitter and Facebook are good examples of social media sites. Reddit isnt designed for social networking.",
"[Congrats](https://youtu.be/04EI81F-N6o?t=1m37s)",
"I want to say something funny and clever... I got nothing... So just congratulations... ",
"I think we've all seen enough fucked up shit on Reddit that the man can post whatever he wants",
"Seriously, did I forget to log out or something? ",
"Congratulations man- hope y’all have great life together. Advice I give to newlyweds- it’s easy to maintain relationships when everything is going good, it’s the hard times that truly test your commitment. Hang in there and work through it, it can be done. Been married 30 years, wouldn’t trade it for anything. Best of luck to both of you",
"RIP balakman",
"F",
"Reddit is not meant as a social media platform Facebook is a social media platform.",
"Thank you that made me smile. You guys look so genuine, and happy it's amazing.",
"Says who?",
"The internet.",
"Post anything fuck haters. Congrats.",
"you're weird",
"Alright I'll bite why, and why be insulting? ",
"Nope. The mods just let /r/pics go to shit. \n\nWelcome to /r/politics' and /r/progresspics' toilet :D ",
"Yeah, no need to be insulting (except if it's funny and not targeted at me, in which case I'll allow it). \n\nWhile I get that Facebook has a different flair than Reddit, the very fact that you're having a discussion with other people on the internet over a picture is very suspicious of social media.",
"Really, I thought /r/politics was its own toilet.",
"Congrats bubba! Hope you have an amazing life together!",
"This is /r/pics right? He isn't breaking any rules that i see.. Who the fuck are you to tell him he can or can't post here? \n\nand what are you talking about Reddit not being a social media platform? Have you not seen the recent changes? Dude, this shit goes hand in hand with facebook and the like. ",
"Blessings to you and your family! ",
"Nobody here knows this person, that’s the difference. ",
"He posted the funniest things ever. I’m still loling",
"I thought /r/happy was supposed to be the solution to these kind of posts.",
"Congrats! /r/happy would love this!",
"Are you guys going to make cakebaby2018?\n\nEdit: idk why all the downvotes, it just a play on his username",
"[Tomorrow's update ](https://youtu.be/lQlIhraqL7o)",
"Do me a favor, go to /r/pics, look at the top posts.. sit there for a moment and take it all in.\n\nIts all politic bs, filled with comments of people that have never read more than titles. \n\nExplain why political shittery is being upvoted on /r/pics, but some picture of a couple that got married shouldn't be allowed? ",
"CONGRATS!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍 ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️",
"Definition of social media... \"websites and applications that enable users to create and share content or to participate in social networking.\"\n\nSo how in the f*ck is Reddit NOT a social media website???? I'll wait........",
"You weren’t kidding. Good god ",
"Your only connection to making Reddit social media is to share content. It is in no way a social networking tool, discourages the sharing of personal information. Most users don't even want friends or family to know their usernames. That is an argument against social networking use right there. If you go on the basis of arguing it's about sharing content, then you have to include so many sites and platforms as social media. It's just too broad of a term and you are reaching in the broadest of ways.",
"I'm surprised it wasn't a homosexual marriage. Those are in right now.",
"\"Most users\"? - I'll like to see some stats, not just your bullshit opinion. Just because YOU don't want friends and family to know what comment on and so forth, doesn't mean \"MOST USERS\" are like you. Additionally, I know folks that use Facebook that do not want specific friends NOR any members of their family following them. So, I'm not even sure how the hell that is even your rebuttal.\n\nAnd no, that is not my ONLY argument. I simply provided you with the definition of social media, which obviously means Reddit (by definition) is part of the genre.\n\nBut...I'll add another... It's funny how on other social media sites I can choose to \"follow\" others, you know...for socializing, reviewing their content, etc etc. Well what do you know... I can do the same thing on Reddit.",
"Exactly right it's an anonymous website not intended for social networking.",
"Looks like Reddit only cares about pics of LGBT couples getting married and Immigrants getting US visas. ",
"God forbid you see two men/women/whatever being happy together",
"I mean traditionally, God *does* forbid it.\n\nIn all seriousness though, I'm just a little annoyed by how easy it is to get karma if you make a post about a gay marriage. ",
"No lie. Jesus he posts the same horrible shit over and over again in different subreddits.",
"The best part is [this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/dating_advice/comments/58xoeh/finally_got_the_girl_of_my_dreams/) from one year ago where OP says he just started dating the girl of his dreams but he's already losing interest. I'm sure they'll have a long and happy marriage :) ",
"Still not as bad as r/news mods who ban you because they disagree. ",
"Hey! Take this weak ass argument over to facebook where it belongs.",
"The 600+ people who upvotes this disagree. ",
"Best not post a photo of you doing nothing cool then. Only post cool stuff that other people do. ",
"He’s still anonymous if you don’t know him, even with the pic",
"The salt is real in these comments LOL",
"Don't hold out for anything from this inbred cunt",
"That's not what he's getting at... He's talking about how anything to do with homosexuality is instantly up voted on reddit. Everyone bitching about this picture because \"it's just two strangers standing there\" are the same ones fawning over the picture of the two gay guys posted the other day. ",
"Well looking at history they couldn’t get married for the longest time so maybe it’s about repressed feelings of support for gay marriage",
"Well it is annoying. It's almost like gay people crave attention and special treatment more than hetero people. The masses are chomping at the bit to give it to them.",
"Hm, I do not think your *THE INTERNET* reason checks out.\n\n[Reddit a social media website? What does the internet say...#1](http://authornews.penguinrandomhouse.com/5-social-media-platforms-you-might-not-know/)\n\n[Reddit a social media website? What does the internet say...#2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddit)\n\n[Reddit a social media website? What does the internet say...#3](https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/03/22/0549255/reddit-to-transform-into-a-social-network-with-new-profile-pages)\n\n\n\n",
"This subreddit is about criticizing posts that cash in on current trends to get easy karma. Posting pictures of a gay couple being married/holding hands/getting engaged or whatever is sentimental, trendy bullshit and it's low effort. It's not about \"expressing repressed feelings of support.\" No one on reddit is capable of having an idea that big. ",
"Congrats!!!!! I’ve been married for 20 years and would highly suggest reading The 5 Love Languages! It has dramatically improved my relationship with my wife. ",
"Mazel tov!",
"I read this too late, only to realize cleanliness was my ex wife's love language.\n\nEdit: how the hell does this get downvotes?",
"You forgot people losing weight. ",
"You're just a jackass internet troll.",
"Is it your 4th marriage?",
"A",
"This is incredible. If OP see's this it'll be gone immediately.",
"Best wishes to you and the new wifey.",
"Oh so this is where you guys draw the “go post it on Facebook” line? Not with the dozen or more progress pics posted by absolute strangers daily but if randos get married... you suddenly have quality standards. So bizarre.",
"The politics shit should go too. ",
"C",
"Congrats! Don't forget to occasionally look at her like you look at cameras. ",
"E",
"It's almost like reddit isn't just one person with one single opinion",
"Wow, you both look slick as fuck. Good Luck!",
"Funny, I get this standard deflection every single time.",
"lol hahahahaha poop",
"You look like you are about to kiss the air or the cameraman.",
"No, protest signs only in this sub. Learn the rules clown.",
"I really like your outfits. It looks nice.",
"B",
"Congrats! ",
"B",
"Then by all means, keep ignoring logic I guess",
"Thank you! Everyone’s obsessed about whether this should be on Twitter or Facebook, but I’m looking at the picture and thinking he looks more interested in being the center of attention than in his beautiful bride. She’s looking at him with love, and he’s like, “Me, me, me! It’s all about me!” Without knowing a single other thing about this dude, I’m worried for his wife. ",
"O",
"No rules broken, if you don't like it downvote",
"Woodruff Park in Atlanta",
"Hey, Congratulations.",
"Why is your wife wearing a suit? Is it cuz she knows this belongs on Facebook?",
"Lol says the ad hominem attacker. You sound butt hurt.... Are you butt hurt. ",
"O",
"The way the light is hitting your ring, it looks like it's leather with a brass buckle, like a tiny belt.",
"O",
"If he is a grown adult male why the hell does he frequent bisexaulteens? Wtf?",
"Maybe because it isn't a deflection but rather a legitimate point. Don't expect reddit comments to represent the views of redditors. Hell, frankly don't have any expectations of reddit. People upvote stupid shit, people say stupid shit, the earth goes around the sun, water is wet. ",
"Why is this posted here",
"i see your dealing with racism, come post this in r/blackfellas for love it deserves.",
"K",
"Facebook >>>",
"Oh Reddit...",
"B",
"The first date tips he posted on bisexual teens this week worked ultra quickly ",
"hmm, I feel like there might be a different reason you got banned.",
"Ur wife's knuckles got me thinking u better not argue with her. Happy wife happy life 😂",
">Without knowing a single other thing about this dude\n\nYep, that's Reddit for ya. One line about how he doesn't know anything about the guy, the rest of the paragraph about how he's gonna be a horrible husband. Don't forget the original, passive-aggressive comment about how he should be looking at his bride in one specific picture. One. Oh and the rest of the thread bitching about the fact that this was posted, without mentioning that, had it never been upvoted they never would have seen it. ",
"Because no one smashes those like and share buttons like bisexual teens. ",
">You're just an inbred cunt.\n\n>Lol says the ad hominem attacker.\n\nSince you're using words that you clearly don't know the meaning of it's very safe to assume that you're either a troll or just a very stupid person.",
"Can we talk about her awesome coat?",
"And people with cancer",
"If Reddit can't tell that person was joking then we are in big trouble...",
"He's posted shit to r/comedy. A lot of his shit is on r/comedy. Also his post on r/jokes:\n\n>What did the black guy get on his SATs?\n\n>barbecue sauce... lol",
"Anyone just hear the \"I just had sex\" my lonely Island. ",
"Sorry, OP, one of you isn’t a different color, so this post is going to receive criticism on its banality instead of extollation for its bravery.",
"That’s all I wanna talk about ",
"Notice the title says “I got married” and not “we got married”? He’s pretty into himself and not sure this kinda marriage is the lasting kind. But hey, glad they’re happy today!",
"Ok?",
"Not butt hurt at all just stating a fact.",
"Well if it helps I don't want people irl to know my username.",
"Oh my god how the fuck did this end up on the front page, hahahaha.",
"\"We\". WE just got married. \n\nGet used to saying that word...",
"Listen mate, forget the negative comments. Yeah, sure, this is some social media bullshit that should be on your Facebook. But I think some people are forgetting what it feels like to be literally high from happiness, that giddiness that makes you carefree and want to shout from the rooftops to spread the love.\n\nCongratulations on your marriage, I hope you had a great wedding, reception, and first night together.\n\nAlso, I hope one day I can wear a suit as well as you do. \n\nMate, you are winning at life. ",
"Pretty obviously a troll. Account is a day old and he/she is a serious keyboard warrior who has already gotten themselves banned from r/news",
"P",
"Cool I can post on r/news right now. Not even trolling just giving honest opinions. I was banned from r/news like 2 months ago and stayed a lurker but just joined up again. Sorry that you can't attribute it to troling ",
"Honestly, I'm just joking. I imagine he's likely a great guy and in love. Part of the pose is likely from pride for his relationship and this moment in his life. You could just as easily argue that she didn't notice the camera and therefore didn't pose properly. So I just exploited a possible interpretation of this single moment of their lives devoid of any other context for some Reddit karma and because I thought it was a funny way to say, \"Love your woman\". (Always good advice, by the way.)\n\nOr yeah, he could just be a huge narcissist. The world may never know. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, though.",
"I disagree. You’ve been banned. ",
"Nice quote... Except I was speaking to the other commenter.. You can see the comment doesn't say \"you're an inbred cunt\" you edited that part yourself. I was talking about you, not to you. So no, I didn't ad hominem attack you. I called you that to someone else. Jeez learn to read.. Or you just might match that description lol",
"In the preview I thought I saw 2 suits. Wus sure it was some happy gays",
"I wore almost the same suit for mine last fall! Congrats man!",
">don't hold out for anything from this inbred cunt",
"Congrats bro",
"Yes. Calling someone an inbred cunt behind their back isn't ad hominem attacking them. It's saying something mean about them. ",
"I'm not offended as a black man, but I am offended as a comedian",
"True, but also very unnecessary ",
"Great recommendation. I also recommend the Seven Principles of Making Marriage Work. ",
"Nah r/news is a fucking shitshow. r/politics is bad but r/news is waaaay worse.",
"We have new lord of the ring",
"Adults can be bisexual too dude...",
"What would you prefer?",
"Wat?",
"Congrats brother! Don't mind the envious, moronic people crying that you should post this elsewhere. You didn't break any rules in posting here. Wish you well on your marriage! ",
"Your mom looks proud, congrats!",
"It stays on Facebook, this isn't an interesting picture and I don't know this rando. ",
"I think I have the same ring or very similar. \n\nGot mine for $38 at Walmart and I love it. Still not used to wearing a ring, though. I find myself fidgeting with it all day every day. ",
"Do you think if this couple were mixed race, or even same sex, that it would be receiving this kind of criticism from the user base? There’s a lot of evidence that says ‘no’.",
"Haha well searched, you guys are savage detectives. ",
"Cool dude! This isn’t Facebook though.",
"Goodbye ",
"You wouldn't happen to live in Charlotte?",
"The sub is explicitly for teens though...",
"You and a bunch of people are super salty about this one for some reason.",
"Well this is r/Pics. If it belongs anywhere on Reddit, it's probably this sub. ",
"Congratulations and best wishes for the future! Can I see a better picture of the bride's coat? ",
"And dead doggos.",
"Congrats! Here is to many years of happiness and growth!!!🍻🍻",
"Many people who get married tell others “I got married”\n\nEdited for clarity ",
"Yeah man I’ll upvote a shitty protest sign but this guy got married? Fuck him and the fact that he’s so fucking self centered because he’s lookin at the camera\n\n/s",
"Obviously he prefers pictures of people losing weight, they can be happy. But fuck this guy ",
"Literally? My husband and I were married in October and we’ve always said “we got married” on FACEBOOK posts. Sooooo....I guess we’re not “anyone”.",
">I'll like to see some stats, not just your bullshit opinion\n\nYou know, if you're getting this angry and rude, consider going outside or reading a book.",
"Please do something productive.",
"Its awful. ",
">Jeez earn to read\n\nYou've embarrassed yourself there.",
"Congrats! I’m just saying in my experience I’ve seen so many people exclaim that they, as in “I”, got married. \n\nAlso, I don’t see how you can say “he’s pretty into himself” based on one image. That seems pretty harsh. You don’t know the guy. Unless you do, then wow what a coincidence lol",
"No it's that reddit is racist.",
"Fair enough. I guess I’ve not seen that as often, and it tends to denote that the person saying it is living solely in their own perspective and possibly not really viewing marriage as a joint effort by both parties. Just my opinion.",
"Explicitly? Is there a page you're redirected to that confirms you're a teenager? YOU MUST BE 18 YEARS OR YOUNGER TO ENTER.",
"Now that’s a happy ending.",
"Progress pics are a lot more interesting than people wearing wedding clothes. If you want to make changes yourself it's encouraging, and even if not I personally find it fascinating to see how much a person's appearance changes as they lose weight. Whereas this is just... people. ",
"Facebook and Reddit are completely different.\n\n\nFor example, we'd be able to actually say something about their relationship( other than \"Congrats\" if we knew them on FACEBOOK.\n\nReddit is intended for people to discuss and comment on stuff people are familiar with, or want to know about. Out of the entire audience of Reddit, I doubt even one person who knows about OP's relationship will come across this pic.\n\nBut if you want to then go ahead, comment repetitive stuff like \"Happy marriage\" and \"Congratulations\".",
"Please ignore all the hate here. Reddit can be terrible sometimes. I hope you too have a wonderful life together!",
"Haters I can't help the fact y'all love the smell of shit. Keep the downvotes a coming.",
"Real relationships have ups, and downs. That does not mean this moment isn't genuine. Or that they won't end up happy. In fact that he's seeking out advice is a good sign.",
"I am curious, can someone explain to me why every positive comment in this thread is downvoted to oblivion?",
"Its the couple from Netflix's 'Runaways'.",
"Enjoy the more than likely chance at divorce!\n#Marriageisajoke\n\nY'all just mad cause I'm right.",
"I like the suit!",
"Guy gets married and all you see is shit talking. Nice people, nice.",
"It's like everyone can make full judgements from his previous posts and from a fuckin pic! As if this was the only wedding pic they took. Anyway I wasted too much time on this fuckin post.",
"is it a protest sign? No?\n\n*Downvotes*",
"I bet they even took more than one picture!",
"Idiot lol congrats",
"Who cares",
"He's posted this multiple times in the last two weeks. \nYay - but why?",
"No worries, it's just a bunch of dudes who are lonely neckbeards that resort to shitting on other people's cereal because their lives are pathetic.\n\nE: Your down votes only prove my point, losers. ",
"Chicks. All the same.",
"Hey man! 19 year olds are teens too! ",
"Then why creep around a sub called bisexaulteens and not r/bisexaul",
"I'm only commenting in hopes of being the one reply that's upvoted. ",
"Because Reddit doesn’t like to see people post something they don’t think is worthy, even in a general picture sub such as this. Also people who have nerve to be positive about things that the Dow voters don’t like should be downvoted too, because Reddit.",
"The engagement ring, the wedding ring, and the suffering! Congrats!",
"I guess... They could also just be taking a silly picture. Not every wedding photo has to be a couple making their best stereotypical eternal love face. I have an uncle who's a huge fucking goofball and there's a picture in their wedding album of him making a silly face and my aunt looking at him pretty much just like this. She just really loves the fact that he's a huge fucking goofball. There's also 50+ other photos of them looking at each other like they've just found the love of their life. They've been happily married 25+ yrs. \n\nI mean he *could* be a self absorbed prick who doesn't give a fuck about his bride and just loves the attention from the camera, but that seems like a big assumption to make about a total stranger you know nothing about from one pretty innocuous photo he posted on Reddit about being happy that he got married.",
" #facebook",
"Jesus Christ reddit's denizens suck. I don't even know why I have an account when everyone just shits on everyone else for the smallest thing. The circle jerk just gets fucking old.",
"Good job?\n\nI'm not sure what you want people to say to this.",
"On the internet, no one can tell when you’re joking",
"ToP 10 SiGnS SHE LIkeS yOU 🙉🙉👍👍😂😂🔥💯🔥💯😂\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n \n😂",
"ATL!",
"/r/trashy",
"It would be perhaps more encouraging if the headline was \"*We* Just Got Married!\".",
"Maybe he applied the help that people gave in that post. ",
"So many people downvoted for saying congratulations... I wander if you savages would be happier if he was getting divorced. God damn. Anyway fuck downvotes it's in pics and it's a picture get over it. Congrats OP.",
"Lol people know you on your personal Facebook. We makes sense. To a bunch of strangers who don't know you or your husband. I got married would be fine. Would you post \"bob and I just got married\"? Definitely don't need to post mine and/or my spouse's name with my full face to a bunch of strangers on Reddit lol ",
"Based on recent r/pics history i would guess pics criticising trump or protest signs. \n\nEDIT: currently a protest sign on the front of r/all ",
"What's with the ghetto expression? ",
"Lol. You really need to get off the internet if you can’t handle an obvious fucking joke. ",
"Am I the only one who thinks that there's been an influx of black users over the last year? Most old school cool pics are of black parents. Similar observation about other posts too. ",
"lol i thought you were throwing up a W. ",
"Then why is there any moderation of pictures? Pictures of text? Memes? If you’re going to be pedantic, it goes a lot farther than this.",
"Screw the grumps here; congrats to you both!! I'd also post this to r/happy :) ",
"Is that Von Miller? ",
"Downvote-worthy comment.",
"Posting this is only OK if both are trans",
"Man, you weren’t kidding. It’s like spam but done by a human. Almost impressive.",
"Shouldnt his title be 'WE just got married'?! Shes in the picture too... and he cant get married by himself.",
"Naturalistic fallacy. Just because it happens in nature, doesn’t make it moral. ",
"Pretty much this.",
"Is that ring a David yurman? Looks nice ",
"Look up the definitions of social and media and cone back to me because you sound retarded. Nobody cares about your made up definitions and lists of what is and isn't social media when Reddit would clearly fall under social media. Friggin dunce. Go be negative and wrong somewhere else. The very act of me being able to comment on your post is sociable (despite it not being overly friendly) and Reddit is a medium in which to communicate whatever someone wants. Media being the plural Reddit would fall under social media with the likes of other internet media that allow for discussion and posting. ",
"My condolences ",
"He could totally go post this in /r/happy and get congratulations. ",
"Yeah. Depends on the audience. If we're speaking to people who know both of us, it's we got married. If I'm speaking to my friends, it's \"I got married\". If she doesn't use Reddit, I can see him seeing this as his crowd, his friends and he's got news for them about his life. So it's he got married.\n\nIf they were both Redditors, it would be more likely to say \"We got married!\"",
"[Its awful what?](https://youtu.be/yc2udEpyPpU?t=21s)",
"I wanna talk about the watch on his ring finger ",
"I hope you like cauliflower.",
"What's the wife's name? I don't know her. I barely know him but I know that he got married. Because he's posting on his account. If they had an account it would be we. Just Makes sense. ",
"For probably the 5th time and probably 7 children between them that you don't pay child support for",
"Where tf did I say it isn't social media?",
"You can tell by the way the picture is framed that the guy cares way more about himself than the girl. This marriage probably isn't going to last very long. ",
"I love your wifes outfit!",
"It's a really judgmental opinion from the choice of a single pronoun. You probably make ridiculous assumptions about everyone you meet and then share them with the sole intention of destroying their self worth and injecting insecurities into their relationships. This is probably your primary source of entertainment in the world. This is leading you down a life where you devalue and destroy every friendship you have ever made. Just my opinion. (now my comment is totally fine right?)",
"Naw. You're thinking of Donald Trump.",
"Hahahahahaga*",
"Sreggin",
"I almost upvoted. Then saw the reply and almost downvoted. I'm just a chipped cog in the social media machine.",
"I feel like showing off the ring is the center of his intended attention. Like someone hurt his feelings once telling him no decent person would ever marry him and he's getting even.",
"Nice edit. But this is still a nice bit of knowledge for anyone unsure. ",
"Everyone says keep this on Facebook yet it's on the front page of r/pics so that's mean y'all keep voting it up. Make up ya mind and get back to us. ",
"Victim mentality.",
"Why make a racist joke and imply that a black guy graduated high school and was planning on going to college? I’m going to rewrite this. \n\n> what did the black guy get on his SATs? \n\n> 1580, you racist. He’s a Rhodes Scholar. But also BBQ sauce, I mean he is black.",
"> nice edit\n\nNice assumption. If you were on desktop it would clearly show that I've not edited my comment.",
"“If I upvote this, then I’m proving to myself that I’m not racist” \n\n-Most redditors’ thoughts. ",
"Both are true. It is also true to say she got married. Saying I got married in no way implies that you got married all by yourself.",
"Congrats, guys! I'm happy to see you enjoying yourselves on your wedding day. Standing there for hours taking the same pictures over and over can get really boring. Besides, the funny, silly photos are the best ones! And I'm guessing, this one is your favorite? Thanks for sharing a special moment with all of us. \n\nTo those of you who are treating this sub like r/roastme, the world is full of tragedy, hopelessness, death, unfairness, and whatever other terrible atrocities humans go through. How about you reach deep down in your humanity somewhere behind your breastbone and find that part of you that gets joy from other peoples happiness. Maybe you wouldn't be so depressed all the time. ",
"You see the way she looks at you? Don't ever ruin that my guy. Don't ever play yourself ",
"I just took a shit!\n\n\n\nBut you don't see me taking a picture of it and posting it here, do you?",
"And cats",
"What uuh....congrats!",
"Yes because the price of someone's jewelry has so much to do with love. ",
"Aren't we all?",
"As a guy with no fashion sense, I was surprised by how much I liked the look of it. I don’t really like the look of anything.",
"I don’t know if I would say that r/news is worse than r/politics, but I did get banned from r/news for posting FBI statistics. ",
"go back to facebook ",
"Could be he worked through whatever it was.",
"Anything is bannable in certain context",
"You must be very proud of yourself.",
"Are you happy now? I gave you your upvote! ",
"So posting a comment with only a link to the FBI website is wrong?",
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"My apologies.. lol",
"congratulations, you are fucked.",
"Right!?...am a 44 year old man wearing a hoodie and trackpants and I thought the coat was awesome....wanna see more",
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"Depending on the context, could be bannable. Being banned doesn't mean wrong in the moral sense, just that you violated a rule they established.",
"Fuck off. I'll take this 1000x over those cheesy wedding photos where the couple is posed on some dirt path staring into each others eyes with the sunset behind them. I look at this photo and see a happy man and a happy woman, the fact that you can see anything different is horrible.",
"Jesus christ, this is a great in-the-moment photo of a very happy couple. Keep your shitty advise to yourself.",
"Can you find me the no statistics rule?",
"A lot of people in this thread sound bitter.",
"Why do you think that's the rule you broke? They have a lot of rules.",
"He is him though, so , you know, \"I got married\" makes perfect sense. ",
"Pls do not share your personal problems here.",
"> They have a lot of rules.\n\nand last I checked, not posting statistics isn't one of them. Mods lean left so I'm not really surprised.",
"Right ",
"You think this is funny and im the pathetic one? ",
"You keep insisting that posting stats is what got you banned. That's not why you were banned, lol. You broke a rule. They have no rule about posting statistics. You should look at the rules, I am **sure** you will see the one you broke. Based on your attitude, I have no doubt I know which one it was.",
"So using statistics by credible sources like the FBI is wrong? TIL",
"You're being downvoted, but you're right. All the Putin bots must be out now. I think r/news has Stormfront mods.",
"Never said it was wrong. There is no morality involved in getting banned, just you broke a rule. The rule had nothing to do with posting stats. People post stats all the time. People post links all the time. They don't get banned. You did, you broke a rule. Simple. Today you learned!",
"Yeah I don't think r/politics would ban you for posting statistics.",
"> you broke a rule. Simple.\n\nI posted the wrong facts I guess.",
"You two be looking dope af dude! ",
"Classy as PHUCK. Congrats!",
"Nope, facts are facts. You broke a rule. Very simple. Like, if you said \"Trump wears a toupee\" in your favorite sub, you would get banned. If you posted the litany of facts from the same FBI website that shows his failures, you would get banned. Not because the facts are wrong but because posting in T_D is a privilege you lose if you break a rule - one of those rules is no negativity against Trump, even facts. /r/news has rules too, like /r/T_D, none of them say you can't post a fact. But they do have rules that, in certain context, makes posting a fact bannable - just like in your favorite sub.",
"did you look at OPs other posts?",
"Jeez you're one sad asshole",
"Sarcasm is hard",
"So FBI statistics are bad. Considering r/politics seems to be your favorite sub, I can imagine why you would think that.",
"> So FBI statistics are bad.\n\nLOL - you keep saying this. I keep saying they are not bad, there is no morality about facts. You got banned because you broke a rule. get over it, doesn't mean you are a bad person or you posted something immoral. Means you broke a rule they have - none of which say posting a fact or link to a stat is bannable.\n\nThere are a dozen subs I can post a direct quote from Trump and get banned...you think I would go on about how Trump is banned in those subs? LOL - maybe *you* would, but I know that that language is just bannable in those subs.",
"Congrats. Hope it lasts. You guys look fun!",
"and don't forget they sometimes aren't even taken the day of the wedding",
"What about them? I don't think they justify your opinion at all. More importantly though, do you think they justify your behavior? ",
"Who cares?",
"lmao",
"Who is this person? I think alot of people got married yesterday , why do you feel like you are more important than them?",
"> none of which say posting a fact or link to a stat is bannable.\n\n",
"All that shit can fuck off to facebook too.",
"OP please deliver more pics of her coat!",
"Yeah, you got banned for breaking a rule. You didn't get banned for posting a fact, lol. I got banned for posting a fact in r/T_D - you don't see me crying about it, lmao.",
"But not peoples kids with cancer",
"Poor fool. I mean, congratulations!",
"Maybe reddit marketing and expansion team? ",
"All I did was do exactly as you just did. Say I was banned. You replied to me. ",
"\n\nI literally posted statistics (from US government) and was banned because I guess numbers are racist now",
"Enjoy alimony and losing your kids and your house.\n\n",
"Posting facts doesn't get you banned in /r/news. Posting facts doesn't get you banned in r/T_D either. Breaking a rule does. You broke a rule...it's that simple. You are not a martyr. You are not be disenfranchised. You are not being oppressed. LOL",
"All I said was I was banned. And we are talking about news, not the_donald. Please try harder.",
"You were banned for breaking a rule, the same thing happens in every sub that has rules. End of story. You are trying to paint /r/news as some sort of anti-fact sub, but even your favorite sub bans people for posting a fact if they break a rule. Reddit is easy if you follow the rules. Don't break rules, you won't get banned. Simple stuff.",
"Congrats! You are a beautiful couple. Stay happy, be kind to each other, and enjoy many years of wonderment and bliss!",
"> but even your favorite sub bans people for posting a fact if they break a rule. Reddit is easy if you follow the rules.\n\nneat, but we are talking about r/news, not my favorite sub. Try to say on topic.",
"Ok but what’s a good post? Which r/pics post is your all time favorite?",
"Congratulations!!!",
"Good looking couple.",
"Behavior? I think you might be confusing behaviors with opinions. ",
"I am talking about/r/news and /r/T_D both having rules. You can talk about whatever you want. You post a fact in T_D, like a link to a trump twitter quote about Mexico paying for the wall, and you get banned. You don't see me trying to claim r/T_D bans for posting Trumps own tweets, do you? No - they banned me because that Trump tweet no longer supports Trumps agenda, so I broke a rule. Same as you did in /r/news - you broke one of their established rules. And like r/T_D, none of them say you can't post a fact. ",
"I thought that her clothes looked just like the groom's.",
"*advice\n\nKeep your crappy spelling to yourself.",
"And stupid protest signs.",
"I figured my first response would have been obvious when I ended it with\n\n>Just my opinion. (now my comment is totally fine right?)\n\nthat my problem wasn't actually with your opinion but with the fact that you would actually share it with anyone. Especially in a forum where the subject of your opinion could read it. This is what is called a behavior. Your actions. The choices you made to act on. Now, to get back on topic, do you think that OP's other posts justify your actions?\n\nIrrelevantly, I (and basically everyone else that responded) disagreed with your opinion.",
"Why does he look so happy?",
"I’m glad I have found an armchair psychologist on Reddit! And their username starts with Delusional!",
"I feel like r/pics is slowly becoming facebook. All you gotta do is post a picture, say something neat in the title, and then watch the karma roll in. If you really are happy that you just got married and all (and I'm very happy for you two), then you should probably post in /r/happy ",
"What is the point of getting married?",
"Who wears watches these days. Old man! ;)",
"WHUDDUP PIMPSSSSS",
"But we can tell whether or not you know the difference between your and you’re. \nEdit: you fix your comment and downvote me then I look stupid. Well played. ",
"Good luck ",
"lmao \"Let\" go to shit. It's a default sub, it's default shit, has been literally for years. At least this is actually a picture of something other than words. ",
"I want to know where to get it! ",
"Literally the first line in this sub's description reads:\n\n> A place to share photographs and pictures.",
"Congratulations!",
"Yes, good lord, some of these comments are ridiculous. No one should have to stare into their lover's eyes to prove they're really in love or whatever. They're both clearly happy, why should it matter how he's posing? ",
"Reddit is social networking though. People post stuff they've done/are doing all the time. Why are wedding photos the exception? ",
"Lol, I'm the armchair psychologist? That's rich. You are the one analyzing their choice of a few words in a few unique posts to deduce their entire mentality behind their marriage.",
"To be fair I do comment that shit on progress pics too it just usually gets downvoted like crazy.",
"I doubt it, he’s just posting this shit for self exposure. All of his posts are just him spamming his own shitty original content, I’m sure he’ll take any attention he can get.",
"But yet, you are the one who is dissecting every word I write.",
"I never get karma for it. Might stop taking pictures of dead dogs altogether. :'(",
"Seriously! This just makes me feel bad for when the dude comes back to all this shit in the comments. I just hope he doesn't take it personally for more than what it's worth. Cause seriously, why are people so fucking bitter about this being posted in /r/pics? It's a pretty generalized sub for pics, like this pic. It's even a happy one, and they look awesome and so cheerful! ",
"That doesn't explain why it reached front page.",
"Man, have y'all never dated? That post describes some very natural, albeit irrational, feelings someone might have when they meet someone they think could be special (especially for someone who has been waiting 12 years for that). \n\nMaybe I'm not normal but I know how he felt, and he was just looking for advice on how to get over some irrational, reactionary feelings so he could allow himself to be happy with that person.\n",
"Congratulations!\n",
"Neck beards with bots",
"It's like he's sockpuppeting, but as himself...? ",
"Am I though? All I've done is call out your asshole behavior for what it is. I have written nothing except call attention to your specific behavior. ",
"Ah, I can settle that one for you. When more people \"upvote\" content than \"downvote\" it that specific post's \"karma\" begins to rise. When enough people \"upvote\" in a short amount of time it reaches the \"frontpage\".\n\nClearly what we see, here, is a post where enough people liked it to overcome the people that didn't. Thus - frontpage. It's pretty simple when you think about it.",
"This is a very nice picture. I wish you much joy and happiness!\n",
"Got me. ",
"[Much better](https://i.imgur.com/A9Egbt1.gif)",
"Maybe because his comment was fucking annoying which attracted other morons to pipe in.",
"mazel tov! ",
"Perhaps, just perhaps, stop being such a patronising bellend and you'd have more time to actually comprehend other redditors?",
"Congrats!",
"Marriage, 75% of the time it fails every time. ",
"Like, do you think the gold at the collar is some kind of closure? a separate broach? And is it full-length? A vented skirt? so Smart!",
"On purpose?",
"Congratulations! And thanks for thinking of your family here at Reddit! 👍🏼",
"The u comes before the a",
"Are you OP‘s new wife? I can’t believe that someone is so completely offended by my comments that you have to continue to fight with me",
"This is a picture that’ll be posted to r/oldschoolcool in like 15 years because it’s a sweet picture\nCongratulations ",
"Minority fetish. Reddit has it. ",
"4th baby-mama ftfy",
"May god bless you two with many years of happiness 🙏🏼",
"No. Liberal redditors have a fetish for “PoC” so any pic with a minority will get upvoted indiscriminately and make it to the front page. ",
"There is a big gap between offended and deciding to call someone out on their bullshit. Perhaps a better question is, why is it so important for you to construct wild speculation on everyone (so far it has lacked a single positive speculation for a single person you have commented on) as well as share that negativity with everyone else?\n\nYou have fought against me much harder than I have fought against you. Based on the type of speculation you put forward, you could only be someone who knows the husband and is trying desperately to sabotage their marriage so you can claim him for yourself. This type of speculation seems ridiculous when you are on the other side of it doesn't it?",
"You’re missing important ingredients: either man dressed as a woman spending time w daughter or any minority doing mundane thing. ",
"It really isn't worth anyones time to look at this picture. Something like half a million marriages per day or whatever. Reddit used to be a site to share interesting things you found on the internet. Then half of all americans got the internet in the last 15 years, and now it's just full of morons posting their garbage. Not to call OP or the people in this post moronic, but that's not the point of reddit or this subreddit. This picture has nothing valuable or interesting in it for an unrelated person. The world doesn't care about your average normal person, stop showing us pictures of yourself, we don't care!",
"It’s making all because of the velocity of thread activity. Right now it’s a battle between redditors who upvote anything that has a “PoC” in it and redditors who don’t want to see Facebook type shit on this sub. ",
"Nice",
"going by the shitty spam that makes up his previous posts, he probably just worked out you can pay for upvotes on this one",
"She looks like she gets you. Congratulations.",
"For how long?",
"> you'd have more time to actually comprehend other redditors\n\nSays the dude wondering why this got upvoted. Don't be a twat\n\n",
"I don’t ever comment on posts. Literally think this is my first. Congrats!",
"Congrats! ",
"You really have three metrics for comprehending another Redditor's actions: private, public, and community decided. \n\nYour private metric is just whether or not you feel this content is relevant, regardless of the other two. You see something on a sub you feel doesn't belong then you downvote and maybe make some pithy comment about it.\n\nThe public metric is largely out of your hands, and relies on the total up/downvote statistics of a post. You have to consider it a reasonable estimation of the userbase's estimation on the relevance and quality of the content, or else you have to remove yourself from that userbase. After all - you have thrown your own weight into the argument.\n\nFinally, we have the one consideration that matters the most. The community decision. This rests in the hands of the moderators over whichever sub you're visiting and from the administrators of the site, itself. The moderators have the ability to decide what content is appropriate for their sub, so long as that content abides by the rules set out by the site administrators.\n\nIn this specific instance the sub rules specifically promote this type of content, the admins don't disallow it, and the userbase has enthusiastically upvoted it. This is a general comprehension of Reddit's opinion to this content.\n\nReally, the bellend in this conversation is you. You don't like this, based on your private metric, and you want everyone else to agree. Sure, fine, feel the way you do. Apply to be a mod to /r/pics or try and get a job for Reddit to become a part of their administration. Do what you feel is necessary to promote your own view. In the meantime, however, stop being a dickhead and go with the flow.",
"Congratulations! ",
"No one cares about that either. They are just afraid that someone they know will figure out their Reddit user name so they need to have some positive posts instead of just comments on r/wtf or r/watchpeopledie",
"Hey, congrats!",
"Because thousands of people get married across the world every day. What makes this wedding photo interesting in any way? There's not even an interesting title. ",
"Ok.",
"It's just brings a smile on my face. It reminds me that there are good things happening. Plus, it's awesome seeing how happy these people are!",
"No that shows the bulging excuse for the shotgun wedding and inevitable divorce and why op mentions 1 year early er how he was bored of the chick already this is bulls hit fluff that doesn't belong here",
"Well this is the site for people bitter about society, being encroached apon by bulls hit wedding fluff they can't give two shit about",
"No I didn't...\n\nI merely pointed out that smb275's response to someone's flippant comment asking why this was on the front page didn't answer why it was on the front page, because they didn't.\n\nI really don't know why you people can't comprehend 3 rather short and simple posts.",
"You know I'm not the person who asked why this post was on the front page? \n\nI'll await an apology. ",
"Fuck off.",
"That's not what I was meaning at all. I was just referencing the dude holding up 4 fingers.",
"Congrats! You're both beautiful, and her coat or whatever it is she's wearing is GORGEOUS. \n\nReddit, why can't we just be happy for someone?",
"That's flooded r/aww lately. Except they don't have cancer. They're just kids. Doing nothing. Just sitting there, existing.",
"This is why you’re not the one posting about getting married. :p",
"Your matching coats are so pretty",
"I am not married, and never intend to be. My partner feels the same. I just don't see the point for myself. \nBut there's no need for this on someone Wedding day. ",
"I'm no Apache pilot, but it does look sleek.",
"I mean shit.... good for you",
"Hot damn y’all look fly! Congrats!",
"Don't also forget that the same morons posting are also voting but in greater numbers... That's why every other post these days has some tenuous link to Trump and therefore gets upvoted regardless of how ridiculous or irrelevant it is because popular opinion is popular.",
"Yup. The great masses of the people are stupid. Especially the last half to get the internet. You used to need thousands of dollars in disposable income, an interest in technology, and an ability to install and operate new and somewhat confusing technology in order to access the internet.\n\nNow every stooge can get it on a 400$ phone they pay zero down for and upvote garbage on their bathroom break because \"oh that's nice\" and they have no concept of the purpose of the site.\n\nUpvotes aren't supposed to be \"good for you\" or \"i agree\" or even \"good work\". They're supposed to be \"this is worth people seeing\"",
"You ok, buddy?",
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"It's sad but your not wrong. I thought the woman might have been trans or something. Was looking for what the underdog factor was. You can't post a happy picture on reddit unless you're an underdog. Average happy people make reddit is to their stomachs",
"Congratulations, you crazy kids!",
"The main difference between Reddit and Facebook/Twitter in that regard is that Reddit is generally just about the content, like \"Hey I made a cool thing or am doing a cool thing\" and people upvote because they think the thing is cool, where as Facebook/Twitter is much more person-based, like \"Look at me doing a thing\" and people like because a person they know or admire is doing something, and that thing doesn't need as much significance on it's own.\n\nWith regards to posting about getting married on r/pics, people don't upvote because they know the person getting married, they upvote because they like the photos. And even with 7k upvotes, there doesn't appear to be anything especially unique about this wedding.",
"It would be better if reddit could draw a bigger line at shit that belongs on facebook, I'll never understand why people can care about fluff shit like this, call me a sociopath or someone lacking in empathy but I don't give an ear of corn about 1 of the thousands of marriages that happen everyday, keep it to close freinds, I can understand the guys glee and wanting to shout his supposed love from the rooftops, but I'll always be that guy that tells him to keep it down, it might be that he sees it as his special day but it's anything but for everyone on here, and the impending divorce is all too likelyand long after his fealings of joy has been diminished to a bittersweet memory reddit will forever be one step closer to to a fluff filled pseudoscience ridden horoscope giving garbageball, that's all thanks for asking bub but no matter the downvote I get from the menstruating hearts I'll blow smoke up the assessments anything destroying the social experiment known as reddit",
"Mazel tov!",
"Black people doing anything normal gets praise.",
"Hey Reddit! I went to work today! Hey Reddit! I layed in bed all day! Hey Reddit! I took a shit today! ",
"progress pics on r/pics are always posted to /r/shitpost ",
"[dayum](https://imgur.com/a/VRtvM)",
"[snap](https://imgur.com/a/VRtvM)",
"That is the longest, angriest sentence I've read in a while. Good luck out there, buddy!",
"K.",
"I think this is definitely natural.\n\nI've been with my girlfriend for 5 years. You definitely experience the honeymoon phase where everything is amazing and then drift into a commitment phase.\n\nSometimes I worry if I should marry her...\n\nThen I realized I love her very much and she makes me happy. More importantly I'm happy by making her happy. I want to be kind and do nice things for her. \n\nRunning is easy. Analysing your feelings and understanding them takes time and introspection.",
"Two pair black folks?\n\nSir.\n\nTwo black suits?\n\nSir.\n\nOne pair combat boots, one black ass ring and $300 dollars of personal marriage money?\n\nYes, sir.\n\nAlright you're in.",
":`|",
"I'm glad your wife looks at you the same way my girlfriend looks at me.",
"wayne brady?!",
"To who?",
"My point was that he went from having those feelings to being married in under a year. I wasn’t saying that it wasn’t natural to have them at all. ",
"I was totally rooting for your mans during the McGregor fight.",
"I’m on the LGBTeens sub, despite being a straight middle-aged woman, because my teenage daughter is gay, and the sub has several times been very helpful to me in understanding where she’s coming from.",
"/r/murderedwithwords",
"Plus he shared photos from getting married “today” a couple weeks ago on top of it lol ",
"Didn’t even see the clasp. The levels of this....",
"Wow you weren't kidding",
"Surprised they keep that fountain running when it's been so cold. It does look neat though. ",
"He's cool. He's just blowing smoke up the assessments.",
"Y'all look good as fuck",
"NEXT!!!",
"Congrats, looks like your getting ready for an RKO though. Outta nowhere...",
"Ok.",
"Atlanta?\nI thought I recognized that fountain...",
"A year from now , you’ll be begging for some god damn piece and quiet.",
"Unfunny sign in front of bar/restaurant",
"Boy you really showed those libs",
"> You know I'm not the person who asked why this post was on the front page?\n\n[Ha, really?](https://imgur.com/a/u3r8O)",
"This website has really gone to shit",
"She's a beauty!",
"I don’t know if you’ll read this. The thread about your “waning” feelings hit me hard. I’ve just changed many things in my life, but my wife has been there through the good and bad. If you two are as happy as you look, you will do just fine. Making the active choice to love everyday is the commitment we promised. Everyday will get in the way, down days will get in the way. In the end, in your short existence, you found another consciousness to share your life with. Make the most of it! I’m sure you will! You both look very happy!",
"Yes. I was pointing out that your response to the OP did not answer his query, because it didn't. \n\n",
"Shut real recently to the ice on those fountains just melted. Congratulations",
"Congrats!",
"1580 in the new or old grading system? Because out of the 2500 score that’s kinda shit lmao",
"K.",
"Well Done?",
"Totally married and it happened last year and guess what? That's right! I kept it on Facebook because .....NO ON GIVES A FLYING FUCK. And r/pics isnt FB and FB content on RP is weak and low quality. ",
"Who cares.",
"lovely couple ",
"Then take the hint. Also, I see comments like the one you responded to in every single weight loss post, so I don't really see where you're coming from anyways ",
"It went back to 1600 last year. ;)",
"Damn so it was a good score lol",
"Do you think this newlywed couple has a gay son/daughter?",
"Why would i get downvoted for this??"
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"I saw this years ago but it tugs on the heartstrings now, too.",
"Beautiful. I wanted to confirm it... Here's a [news article](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/mother-dog-rescues-puppies-burning-house-places-fire-truck-article-1.1134392). Sadly, it appears one puppy died. ",
"Wow reminds me of Steve Buscemi on 9/11",
"Good girl",
"we don't deserve dogs\n\n(obligatory comments to get a few free karma points)",
"Moms will be Moms",
"What? What is his story?",
"This is how firehouse pets are achieved",
"Before making it as an actor, Buscemi was a new york fire fighter in the early 80s. The day after 9/11 (I think? Someone correct me if I'm wrong) he strapped up in New York & started sifting through the rubble for days, working long 12 hour shifts, looking to rescue any folks that he could. ",
"That's crazy! What a patriot! I'm watching Fargo right now! Crazy.",
"As a fireman, how does that engine have an entire empty compartment?",
"That's the Karma Compartment.",
"I'm not a fireman, but was about to ask the same thing. Seems odd that an in-service piece of apparatus, even mid call, would have a compartment that clear.\n\nStill, it does seem to be sourced from a [Chilean newspaper](http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.soychile.cl/Temuco/Sociedad/2012/08/09/111198/Una-perra-salvo-a-sus-cachorros-de-un-incendio-en-Temuco.aspx) originally (link is a poor Google-translation, but makes the point). ",
"...for the puppies.",
"And here you are karmadecayposting for the same reason except that yours offers nothing new to anyone. ",
"The points are meaningless. What are you trying to accomplish?",
"It feels really mean that we take puppies from their parents. ",
"Possible that is where RIT equipment is. Our looks like that when we are 4th in.\n\nEMT/ FF outta Baltimore County",
"Yes, it is. Dogs are pack animals, they will very happily live with their family for their entire lives. ",
"👋🏼 from Northern Balto Cnty!",
"Usually our first in rigs get pillaged, so that might be accurate.",
"The things that are usually kept in that compartment are being used to combat the fire?",
"Information is information, don't hate on the guy, he's helping us out ",
"Happily, it appears only one puppy died. ",
"Would whatever is usually stored there be in active use while the fire is being fought?",
"Dogs may be the perfect creature. Compassionate, funny, brave, and the smartest you can be without overthinking life. Ok and dolphins \n\nEdit: okay scratch dolphins. They are a gang of gray psychopaths.",
"Be still, my heart! ",
"Oh my, what a good mama💕",
"I wish people would stop caring so much about reposts, it just makes you look like an asshole who doesn't want anybody to see anything that they didn't see the first time it got posted to reddit.",
"A brighter perspective",
"Title and article says it’s a truck. Could be a saw compartment and they’re out. Or a vent fan. Or a generator, or light, or gear compartment. RIC packs, anything. It’s odd it doesn’t have any type of liner in the compartment though. ",
"The maternal instinct in mammals is the strongest known instinct",
"Some compartments have easy grab duffles, full of things like rope and other gear you want in bags",
"The first days after I got my dog I felt like an asshole. She was only two months old and suddenly and without any reason at all everything she had ever known was gone forever. Dogs suffer from the Stockholm Syndrome.",
"Especially since it's been a year since it was posted last.",
"How?",
"Sometimes I wish I was a dog. A dog with a kind owner that would take me on walks and pet me and love me.",
"Aww. Dogs aren’t just loyal to us, but to everyone",
"My heart ",
"My family dog had 4 litters. In each case after a while the momma would start leading the puppies away to get rid of them. \"Happily\" is conjecture in your statement.",
"Your firetrucks don't run on love? ",
"What do YOU mean, “you people.”",
"That's what unconditional love looks like.... \n\n\nWe don't deserve these animals. ",
"Mother is the only person with unconditional love",
"As is your statement. I'm not saying all dogs will stick with their family, just as not all humans will. But the instinct to remain a pack DOES exist under normal or especially ideal conditions. ",
"And I had never seen this repost after four years of daily redditing so...",
"Whoa Daddy! Fargo's my favorite movie. ",
"My dog was found at a foreclosed house with a litter of puppies. A friend of mine fostered them. By the time the puppies were 12 weeks (I think), the mama was actively avoiding them. When we met her, she immediately climbed into my purse. Like \"get me out of here, these fucking kids are driving me nuts\". ",
"Elephants are pretty great, too.",
"Supermom!! Totes brings a tear to the eye ",
"Well I mean we selectively bred them for thousands of years",
"I just looked on wikipedia, some people call them fire appliance lol, that would probably really get your panties in a knot.",
"Oh boo hoo",
"You know dolphins will separate a female dolphins from her pack and keep her awake until she gives in to the gang rape....",
"Something was there, say a ppv fan or tool box, it was taken out to fight the fire. In hoops this dog. Guess we have dogs now. ",
"I think that the contents of that storage container were being used on site\n\nMaybe.",
"One of the puppers ends up dying :(",
"No.",
"Adulescent male dolphins are terrifying they're also prone to drown people for shits and giggles. \n\nEdit: They're also known do just straight up murder things for fun. They have been known to break open sea turtles, maim seals, etc ",
"God love her sweet heart. So glad they are all safe and okay💜",
"There is more to Canus Familiarus than most people realize. Even some dog owners.",
"Take it back, say they all live happily ever after. I need this right now.",
"turn that frown upside down...",
" They'll call you George",
"Fake news!",
"I don't even mind when this gets reposted. ",
"Ya I've been on this website for 4 years and I've never seen this picturr, glad I did though",
"):",
"They all live happily ever after.",
"I can't link to it, but someone who works with dogs and wildlife had said that dog families almost never stick together in the wild, and that by the time weaning is done, most mothers are indifferent to see their puppies go.",
"> perfect creature\n\nbut will sell its self for food, so not entirely loyal.",
"listen here u lil shit",
"Right? It's one thing if it's a repost from a few hours or a day or two ago, especially if it was on the front page in that time. But a year plus? I would never see it were it not for a repost like this.",
"Do you not take your fire-fighting equipment out to use? You know, when you fight fires? .....",
"A fire truck has a ladder or elevated platform. A fire engine has a water pump. (Apparatus with both are called \"Quints\".)",
"Until the fire nation attacked.",
"Can we please start giving animals medals? Really something like \"badest bitch alive\" on a gold circle.",
"Again.",
"It was the cutest one tho.",
"Dont forget the pufferfish druggies!",
"Only before twelve weeks of age, at that point the parents are over having puppies and start to treat them like annoyances and the puppies will attach to any creature that takes care of them. It's true that they're pack creatures but the mama dogs would rather have adult dogs in the pack than puppies. ",
"In the wild wolves go off and join different packs than their parents. You don’t want your pack (which is a breeding group as well as a hunting group) to be all relatives ",
"There is a line from a Gary Paulson book I read a while ago that stuck with me. He is remembering a gaggle of orphan kids he met while touring around the world or something while watching his dog fight to protect one of her puppies. He says something along the lines of wishing that those kids had a mother like Cookie( the dog) and if they did the world would be a better place.",
"Half full or half empty",
"Good dog",
"No.",
"\"Engine 11 to Dispatch, we have fire under control, loss stopped, command is terminated, but we are not able to clear the scene yet...\"",
"This sounds like a dolphin version of A Clockwork Orange.",
"R/thathappened",
"Unfortunately, only one puppy died. This time. ",
"That's really sad and pathetic. Not the poster. You. ",
"> scratch Dolphins. They are a gang of Grey rapist psychopaths.\n\nFixed it for you.",
"Might be where a fire hose was.",
"A Bottlenose Orange ",
"Me too! ",
"why even share this. i don’t get why you’d even type this",
"Until the fire nation attacked.",
"Life is not about what you deserve but about what you take.",
"All these flavors, and you choose to be salty.",
"Does anyone really care about Karma? What's next, are we going to get upset that the house only caught on fire once?",
"They moved to a farm and lived happily ever after. ",
"Probably because it belongs to the story behind the picture.",
"Nah wouldn’t be able to store much hose in a compartment. Most of it is on top of the apparatus, usually a couple of small sections right next to the pump panel",
"Ok that makes me feel better. ",
"FROM RECORD OLD AGE! \n\n/myMind",
"I heard later that day the same dog rescued a baby from an oncoming car and pushed a criminal in front of it!",
"Viva Chile ctm",
"Probably RIT Gear that’s laid out on the tarp. ",
"Nooooooooooooo",
"Dogs don’t deserve dogs ",
"Happily, four puppies survived.",
"Then you'd be dead though ",
"Again",
"You should make a TIL about it. ",
"Why would you take photos???!!?? When you could easily record a video.",
"But it was also evil.",
"As a firefighter, I'd gladly let them take shelter in my truck! Hell, I'm sure we could find some snacks for them in someone's lunchbox too! ",
"It goes to heaven. Bob Ross puts him in his shirt pocket and he draws a happy scene. ",
"Exactly, dogs are pack animals. And pack animals almost never live with their parents, they move to other packs, because genetic diseases aren't a human thing.",
"It set the house on fire.",
"yes, but all dogs go to heaven\n",
"Except that the females kick all adult males out of the herd. As such intensely social beings, the lonliness crushes them. 🙁",
"You havent lost your soul in that time",
"They've also been caught biting the heads off fish and using the bodies to masturbate",
"Some reason I was imagining a big dog and wondered how big your damn purse was.",
"And then for some fucking reason years later a large portion of the earth army attacks oh and also they got big fucking robots and spirit cannons ",
"Have you found a better use for a sunfish?",
"How the fuck do you masturbate with a headless fish without arms?\n\nr/nocontext",
"She did such a good job that day. She officially became a good dog. ",
"Haha i was thinking the exact same thing. Looks like the one above it is empty too",
"Well that's a nice thought. Thanks for that. ",
"By the power of its cuteness ",
"The issue is less about the repost itself and more about why the repost happened.\n\nOP is very likely an account farmer; someone who either manually or by using a bot, across multiple accounts, copy/pastes old posts to gain karma and build the appearance of an organic user. They do this so they can then sell these accounts to various advertising agencies, public relations firms, political organizations, etc. These businesses will then use the accounts they buy to manipulate public opinion; shilling for their company's product, posting about why the bad thing some person did wasn't that bad or the good thing they didn't wasn't that good, or providing detailed and suspiciously well informed and sourced arguments for or against a political stance or politician. \n\nWhy would anyone want to buy a Reddit account instead of just making one? Because people are suspicious of brand new accounts with next to no activity as well as accounts made specifically to promote people or products. People tend to dismiss them for their obvious bias so the accounts used for these purposes need to appear to be average everyday users.\n\nSo instead of paying some employee to spend months or years developing Reddit accounta with the appearance of casual users, they just buy pre-matured accounts from someone else. \n\nThe people who mature these accounts nowadays tend to use bots that copy/paste/submit older, well-upvoted posts and run a bunch of accounts at the same time. Once an account reaches whatever point the seller wants it to be at, they'll put it up for sale.\n\nDon't believe me? Just google \"Buy Reddit Accounts\" or something similar. You'll find plenty of sites whose sole purpose is selling Reddit accounts and, usually, accompanying upvote/downvote services to make sure that any advertisement/propaganda they want to post gets maximum visibility and opposition/criticism gets downvoted.\n\n",
"Thanks for the article. My first thought after seeing the pics was that one puppy didn't look like it would survive. We're they just letting the dog return to the fire each time without stopping her? That's weird.",
"They are just aquatic humans. ",
"It's a movie.....",
"I’m not crying. You’re crying! ",
"She rolls up to about the size of a football.",
"Quick and easy transportation ",
"good girl.\n",
"Which movie..... ",
"Just odd that there are no tie downs in there ",
"All dogs go to heaven",
"I was saying the Bob Ross image was a nice thought. I'm well aware the notion that \"all dogs go to heaven\" is from the movie by the same name. ",
"Bob Ross is a movie?",
"Lol, nobody gets the reference. ",
"Maybe throw a 5\" supply pony roll ",
"Yeah kinda what I meant by a couple small sections by the pump panel. We carry a 25’ 5” pony, 50’ 2.5”, and on our one apparatus without a bumper line we carry a 1 3/4” 100’ double donut with a nozzle for trash fires."
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Dog saves all her puppies from a house fire then puts them all to safety in one of the responding firetrucks.
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"*Bat ass girl",
"But butt",
"Good-ass girl at a stoplight."
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Bad-ass girl at a stoplight.
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"Was expecting to see a singing candlestick.",
"But does Cogsworth get a holiday named after him?",
"classic ",
"Mr. Fuckface Day",
"Well done.",
"Nice pic! Im so annoyed i miss the festival this year. I went 1 or 2 years ago and it was awesome! So many cool light shows!\n\nI have a pic like this one from when i went, but mine is a lot worse quality. ",
"Was there this evening! The lights at Kings Cross were by far my favourite ",
"r/accidentalwesanderson",
"I was there last night, it was amazing, started off in Mayfair and walked down Regents Street. All the roads were traffic free. I live near London and have never been before. It took a house guest from up north to tell me about it.\n",
"Pigi projector?",
"For those like me not aware\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumiere_festival",
"r/LSD",
" Sure looks like projection mapping. Cool effect. ",
"Good to hear it - we were there a couple of years ago and it was hellish - they hadn't closed the roads so everything was blocked off and noone could move anywhere. Glad they managed to correct it this year - though my wife wasn't too happy commuting through the preparation for it!"
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[
"*Lügenpresse\nÜ=/=U",
"Trump's own supporters drew the same connection during the campaign.\n\nhttp://time.com/4544562/donald-trump-supporters-lugenpresse/",
"Fake \"U\"s",
"Zing. ",
"OH MAN, I REALLY LIKE THESE POLITICAL POSTS! I’M TOTALLY NOT TIRED OF THEM OR ANYTHING!\n\nEdit: for any of you thinking that I’m complaining about this post because it triggers my feelings, no, it’s not because it makes fun of trump. I’m complaining because this belongs on r/politics, not r/pics.",
"Well this comment section should be reasoned and not filled with hyperbole at all. /s",
"Head shot. ",
"Yeah fuck him their were so many other ways he could have gone, and instead he just went dictator mode. I will never forgive either the GOP or his supporters for this. They are all complicit in his attempt to undermine our fundamental freedoms.",
"Truman called the press prostitutes, dropped nukes and historians love him. Not sure Trump can top that though.",
"For them it's a feature.",
"Cut a Republican and a Nazi bleeds. ",
"\"Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.\"\n\n~Thomas Jefferson\n\nEDIT: Amazing how many people downvoted Thomas Jefferson",
"I can tell. That's why you came here.",
"Why is this in r/pics ?",
"It's a shame opening every link is mandatory. Reddit should change it so you only have to look at the stuff you want to look at.",
"That's some lügenpresse right there",
"...because it's a picture?",
"Now I suspect this post was set up just so you could make this joke.\n\nElaborate ruse ",
"Of text",
"It looks like this post is about US Politics. Various methods of filtering out content relating to US Politics can be found [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/wiki/v2/resources/filter/politics).\n\n*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/pics) if you have any questions or concerns.*",
"See this is the problem. Your false equivalency of CNN and FOX. To equate those two, even MSNBC (really?), is a joke. CNN and MSNBC are telling it like it is by calling out shit because conservatives refuse to believe truth. FOX exists solely to lie to people.",
"DAE DRUMPF = HORTLER?!?",
"LETS ALL JUST GO TO OUR SAFEPLACES AND IGNORE THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE. THAT SEEMS LIKE A RATIONAL SOLUTION.",
"Because Reddit hates America.",
"Lol, CNN and MSNBC are the two worse offenders. Remember when CNN told you that you couldn't read the wikileak emails because it was illegal but they could because they are the press and that you had to get all of your information from them? \n \nHere, incase you forgot: https://youtu.be/15ZTiAf8fp8 \n \nOr that time they were caught staging a protests? \nhttps://youtu.be/aI2AIu9oBJg",
"*evan evan evan evan*",
"Our media does put shit out of context so??\n",
"Fake Ruse",
"Wasn't everyone saying fake news?",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-beYBLrkNAg",
"And to save time, they should create certain sub-sections of the site (we'll call them sub-reddits) where there should only be a certain type of content in order to save people time and let them find what they would. ",
"There's a bit of a coordinated effort over the last few days if you haven't noticed.\n\nIt's worse than usual ",
"Comparing Trump to Hitler, how fresh.",
"Problem is, most news is bullshit. They aren't wrong.",
"Good. If it makes the right wing mad, then I support it.",
"> Remember when CNN told you that you couldn't read the wikileak emails because it was illegal but they could because they are the press and that you had to get all of your information from them?\n\nBecause that's how it is?\n\nObviously it's illegal to obtain (stolen) classified information, however freedom of press protects journalists, not only when publishing, but also when obtaining information ~~(including their informants)~~ and producing news.\n\n*********************\n\n^^I ^^agree ^^that ^^it ^^was ^^phrased ^^very ^^badly.",
"> Can you let me know which \"fundamental freedom\" Trump has actually attacked/taken from you?\n\nI mean, as this thread specifically points out, he's pretty intent on attacking freedom of the press.",
"Except news outlets like CNN have repeatedly been caught issuing fake news stories. \n\nhttp://thefederalist.com/2017/02/06/16-fake-news-stories-reporters-have-run-since-trump-won/",
"[Richard Spencer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6-bi3jlxk&t=30)",
"What?! How did Hitler know about CNN in the 40's? Time travel?",
"Because Hitler! \n\nI hate both sides with all my heart. ",
"Actually informants aren't protected in the States and journalists can be compelled to turn over their names.\n\nMost of the stuff I can think of that CNN or others have done is seemingly willfully misunderstand things and present an incomplete picture of an event. They don't usually make things up completely, but they will play a 3 second clip instead of a 6 second clip and speculate wildly about what's on the other 3 seconds despite knowing exactly what is on them and the other part of the video explaining everything. \n\nFox just makes stuff up completely sometimes.",
"Some context about the word. \n \n\"Originally coined by the German author Reinhold Anton in 1914, the term Lgenpresse was used during World War I to refer to enemy propaganda. Some 30 years later Hitler and the Nazis appropriated the term to weaken opposition to the regime, primarily accusing Jewish, communist, and later the foreign press of disseminating fake news.\n \n In books, Anton used the term mainly in a foreign context to refer to “enemy propaganda.” It is unclear whether Anton was a pseudonym. Critics of Adolf Hitler's regime were frequently referred to as members of the “Lügenpresse apparatus.”\n \n \n\n",
"The press has had agendas forever.\n\nLook back to the politics around the time of the Founding Fathers. Newspapers were crucial for politicians, and many were directly owned by them.\n\nNews isn't the issue, the 24-hour news cycle is.",
"Gonna have to disagree with you there bud. Both sides are deplorable, and require extensive reading between the lines. It takes not only a grain but a pile of salt sometimes to discern agenda from journalistic news. The answer is to read both sides, even if it boils your blood, and then draw your conclusions. Seek out other sources, especially more centrist-focused papers like USA Today (not forgetting your salt intake). There's a lot you can do to avoid, \"X News is evil, listen to my media coverage!\" And instead, \"Media journalism is skewed, but by looking at both sides I can discuss what agendas both sides are pushing for, and promote a third opinion that doesn't divide, demonize, or lack a plan of action.\" ",
"Not sure if it's making anyone mad though... ",
"It's the First Amendment that protects this, not some special 'press law'. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution\n \nWhich protects the distribution and possessing of illegally obtained documents as long as you weren't involved in the original illegal action to get them. \n \nIn 2001, the supreme court even ruled that an individual had no civil liability in the Bartnicki v. Vopper decision.",
"Yes! But there’s a pretty notable difference: the term was originally used in reference to fake news stories disseminated by fake news outlet websites set up by foreign entities attempting to sew discord is the US election. In a very Trumpian fashion, the president then took that term and began applying it to actual US-based news outlets. ",
"https://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/glance.htm",
"Even the lefts darling, John Stuart ~~Leibowitz~~ called out legendary Soy Boy Anderson Pooper for hosting \"fake news\".\n\nStaaaaahhpp it. ",
"> Lol, CNN and MSNBC are the two worse offenders. \n\nMost people who engage in the \"both sides are bad\" argument are conservatives who don't want to admit they're conservatives, because of how objectively bad (selfish) American conservatism is, and deep down they know it. But you haven't hidden it here at all by suggesting that anyone is worse than Fox.",
"He hasn't attempted to interfere with any of the press besides perhaps sue for slander and libel which he is completely in his right to do. Unlike Cliton and her cronies who buy the alliance of large news networks to control the narrative.",
"Literally hitler\n\n\n\n/s ",
"Yes! But... blah blah",
"I voted Obama, Obama, Bernie, Trump. I couldn't vote for corruption and after seeing what the DNC has done since everything came to light - I will never vote Democrat for the rest of my life. Local, state or national.",
"You know, let's change The_donalds algorithm so they don't get on the front page. But do *nothing* when it's the left side. ",
"This is how you lose the election again ",
"That would be because CNN/MSNBC is catering to a specific audience. FOX is quite literally a propaganda network, and exists for the sole purpose of disseminating propaganda. It was *created* for that purpose.\n\nThat's a huge difference.",
"> It's the First Amendment that protects this, not some special 'press law'. \n\nI wasn't talking about \"some special 'press law'\" but *freedom of the press*, which is garanteed in the Frist Amendement:\n\n> Congress shall make no law [...] abridging the **freedom** [...] **of the press** [...]\n\n******************\n\nAnd the 2001 *Bartnicki v. Vopper* decision was about a *radio station* broadcasting an illegally taped conversation, not about individuals possessing classified information, if I'm not mistaken.",
">In a very Trumpian fashion, the president then took that term and began applying it to actual US-based news outlets.\n\nWell before Trump said anything about it, people were responding with indignance towards the stunning hypocrisy of legacy media outlets which do nothing but deceive trying to complain about fake news.",
"Quality bait my guy",
"Which has nothing to do with CNN's absurd claims that its illegal for other people to possess those emails, but not them.",
"Hang on there with all this wild thinking.",
">He hasn't attempted to interfere with any of the press besides perhaps sue for slander and libel which he is completely in his right to do.\n\nHe's repeatedly used the office of the President to try and discredit news sources unfavorable to him (remember that the White House has repeatedly asserted that his Tweets are official statements as President), culminating in an almost laughable \"Fake News Awards.\" \n\nNot to mention he's repeatedly threatened to push for *changes* to current libel laws to intimidate what he thinks of as fake news. \n\nWhatever he is *legally* allowed to do, it's pretty obvious that Trump does not hold dear the premise of a free and independent press.",
"Are you suggesting that r/pics has a heavy left leaning bias in all its posts? ",
"act like hitler, get compared to hitler",
"a picture is a picture is a picture",
"Hitler liked dogs. All dog lovers are literally Hitler...",
"Most people say InfoWars is \"fake news\", Trump says anything that gives him bad press is \"fake news\".",
"> stunning hypocrisy of legacy media outlets which do nothing but deceive \n\naka fox news",
"Suggesting that almost everything on reddit other than the_donald is heavily left biased...",
"=/= ≠ ≠",
"> Imagine if Democrats deflected all Obama's failures by attacking Romney in 2014 or McCain in 2010. It's pathetic. It's been over a fucking year, grow the fuck up and stop deflecting. \n\nThey did blame Bush for just about everything for Obama's first term...",
"Forgive me if I'm not remembering things correctly, but wasn't 'fake news' a term invented by the news media itself in a short lived moral panic over shittily sourced articles and the like from places like Infowars being given credibility and influencing the election? Something about The Pope supposedly supporting Trump or whatever. ",
"She is relevant to this discussion because she and the Democrats were literally caught working together with the media outlets during the election. We are talking about the media outlets here and how they act politically.",
"I wonder what the translation of Ad Hominem is...",
"Not quite. It was about intentional fake news articles being disseminated by foreign entities attempting to sew discord. I think that’s the most concerning part to me... the way the term “fake news” was transformed from a very clear-cut meaning of “intentionally-faked news articles” to a meaning of “news that criticizes me.”",
"Everyone I hate is nazi...good logic.",
"Yes. Very good. You've opened one eye. Now open the other.",
"If you think there's just the one, then there's another problem.",
"Trump != America despite what you crackpot T_D posters might think.",
"true ",
"What sucks is that there is a legitimate concern that media is fake (aka propaganda) but that's going to be ruined by the fact this jackknob has been using the term.",
"You couldn’t vote for corruption so you voted for Trump?\n\nUh. Ok. \n\n",
"=!",
"Fake trues",
"This comment in and of itself makes a couple fairly large logical fallacies. Not only are you making an assumption that the person holding the sign is calling Trump a nazi (he or she is not, the sign simply is comparing Trump’s criticism of the press to Hitler’s criticism of the press), you have also made the assumption that this person would somehow extend this criticism of Trump to everyone he or she hates. You may want to check the logic in your own statements before you criticize others!",
"Well that's smart, and if you ever choked on your food you can just not eat anything ever again. Or if you had a bad dream once you can just never sleep again.",
"yes there's also breitbart, info wars, washington times, etc",
"Trump drinks water, you know who else drank water?? Hitler.",
"!=",
"Way to circle jerk man. I just simply stated that this board intends to make trump look like a nazi which he is not. You are trivializing nazi cruelties by accusing everyone of Nazism. I am no trumpi any way but this board falls in line with lefts argument that rights are Nazis.",
"Ok, Canadian here with a question. Is it really that bad? Like do people really think comparing Hitler to trump is warranted? It seems awfully petty to do so. To me, you're stooping down to that morons level by saying/posting this stuff. Please fill me in. ",
"Getting the vibe that this is more of a \"anyone that disagrees with you\" thing. So I'm just going to move on. Have a pleasant day.",
"Yeah, really hate most news beeing bullshit. Like the German sentenced to death in Iraq or the pope visiting Peru...",
"Wow this is so insightful. Was hitlers son in law Jewish, too?",
"If everywhere you go it smells like shit, you really ought to check your shoe.",
"Hitler in 1942 to some girl:\"Thank you darling\"\nObama in 2009: \"Thank you darling\"\nConclusion- Obama is Hitler",
"I don’t watch Fox News so it’s hard for me to say how *bad* it is compared to the others, but anyone who doesn’t believe both sides are bad has not spent enough time critically analyzing their own side. It’s absurd how bad they all are. ",
"WaPo and NYT are doing some of the best journalism I’ve ever seen these days",
"So you voted for Bernie and when he dropped out, you decided to vote for as close to the opposite as possible?",
"\"hurrdurrr literally Hitler reeee\" ",
"Personally, I think its been wayyy overblown. Is trump great? No way. Is he hitler? No way. A lot of this is just unneeded fear-mongering imo",
"Everyone knows Thomas Jefferson was also literally Hitler! /s",
"Every single political post, yes.",
"Trump has only killed 3 million Jews while hitler killed 6 million. It's an unfair comparison. Fucking retarded.",
"All I see is the pathetic left bitching non stop for over a year... Ive never been happier ",
"You know who loved the water levels?\n\nHitler.",
"O'Douls: Fake booze",
"The clues were there.",
"Ah yes, a Trump/Hitler reference. How original. ",
"I suspect a lot of Reddit loves America which is why they are so anti-Trump.",
"If everywhere you go doesn't seem to smell like shit, you really ought to check your shoe too just in case you've grown accustomed to the smell.",
"Do you think people actually believe you?",
"Most of the world is getting in on the hate of that shithole, regressive, chucklehead of a country bandwagon. The fact that there is still a sizable portion of the country that is still legitimising its tin pot dictatorship doesn't help the ol' reputation.",
"Hillary and Obama pushed more of Hitlers ideas than Trump has so far. \nHere's a quiz for you: \"who said it, Hitler or Hillary\" \n\nhttp://libertynewsnow.com/quiz-who-said-it-hillary-or-hitler-3/article2757",
"America is an absolutely beautiful country. I'm from Europe and everyone I know who's been recommends it thoroughly, shame about 30 percent of its inhabitants though",
"Is that the only comparison you think can be made? It's a comparison of control tactics, has nothing to do with Jewish people. By breaking down societal trust in News that is reporting on the truth, THAT is what Hitler also did. Therefore they are the same.",
"The federalist is an extremely biased source and regularly posts fake news. ",
"\"When the speech condemns a free press, you are hearing the words of a tyrant.\" - also Thomas Jefferson.",
"He didn't drop out. He was dragged into a meeting at the oval office where Obama convinced him to get out of the race so Hillary and the DNC (that she practically owned at the time) could take her shot, and she lost. I didn't take the extreme of voting for Trump, I know he'd be bad news but I was just about as pissed off and could see how people wouldn't vote for her over it.\n\nSanders would have crushed Trump like an insect.",
"Fake Rüse",
"First, Trump is not America. Secondly, why shouldn't the rest of the world hate Trump? He has offended so many countries and people by now it is almost easier to count the ones he hasn't offended yet.",
"No, u/benV94 is correct. When Trump won the election, mainstream news outlets began claiming that \"fake news\" articles on Facebook, etc. are what helped Trump win the election. This seemed preposterous given that almost all media was anti Trump and you had to actually go out and do some legitimate research for yourself to find out real information about Trump and his policies. So Trump stole their word from them and turned it on them, calling the legacy news companies \"fake news\", which is actually fitting considering how many straight up lies they told last year only to quietly correct the lie a few days later, after it had already served its purpose. ",
"There are degrees of bad. Fox has carved out its own corner somewhere at the furthest reaches of what sane people might call \"news\". CNN can't even see that corner of the world... That's how far apart they are. CNN is \"bad\" sometimes, Fox is a dedicated state propaganda arm of the the lunatic right. Huge gap between the two.",
"Well I mean, if it quacks like a goose and steps like a goose... America has seen an explosion of neonazi groups since Trump took power.",
"Fake clues",
"Its almost as if batshit crazy authoritarian ideologues don't like the free press and will do anything to discredit it.",
"¬(=!⇔!=)",
"No it wasn't, it was coined almost a century ago.",
"da, i think they do.",
"OP is a communist ",
"all those damn videos/wiki leaks proving it was fakenews were clearly the work of Hitler.\n\nAbsolutely Nazi ",
"Actually, it started with Pizzagate. ",
"wow. just..... wow.",
"Not just discord. A lot of these fake outlets existed just to make money of adds.",
" No. Half the country loves this guy and the other half are just being prideful children. They claimed that if Trump won he'd send us into economic collapse, world war 3, would round of the gays and minorities to be killed, and so now that he's in office, rather than admit that Trump is not literally Hitler and they were just blinded by hate and fueled by propaganda, they'd prefer to see him actually become Hitler so that they don't have to admit they were wrong. They keep telling each other that they were correct and ignoring reality. ",
"There is no nazi explosion. They were always there even before Trump. Target Nazis all you want i don't care but when some say trump is a nazi they are way too hyperbole.",
"Most people I know have just gone on with their lives after he got elected. My friends and I all know who voted for who (some Hillary, some Trump) but we had a good laugh at the absurdity of it all and that was that.\n\nHowever, I know a few people who try to fit some kind of \"fuck Trump\" statement into nearly any conversation they have and share/repost anything they think will somehow make him look worse than most people already see him. I don't get why people waste their energy doing so but it's not as common as reddit makes it seem.\n\nEdit: Brb, gotta go to the store so I can get some cheese to accompany all this w(h)ine.",
"They have only done it for every Republican president since I was born. Truly unimaginative people.",
"Pretty much nobody can actually demonstrate how Trump has made their lives worse outside the internet.",
"when you act like a person or idea(s), you will get compared to that person of idea(s). pretty basic shit. ",
"No, they are able to see how undeniably bias both sides clearly are. Your inability to admit it only proves your own bias. 🤷",
"You aren’t fooling anyone with the “I’m so happy” comments I see them all the time. If you’re main argument is about how happy you are that people are mad it shows that you don’t actually *have* an argument. ",
"Rüse",
"Wait, wait. You call me out for not knowing the \"worst offenders,\" but then you're gonna go say \"I'll literally vote anything but Democrat the rest of my life.\" Have you heard the word irony?",
"bahahahahaahahahahaha",
"The_donald was heavily abusing various vote mechanism. The mods sifted through the new queue, stickied posts they liked, causing them to shoot up the rankings rapidly.\n\nBesides, it's not just T_D that got it's ranking changed, everyone did. By the time reddit got around to implementing the change it hit counter-jerk subreddits (who stole the technique) more than T_D.\n",
"Heh, imagine if Germany won WW2, then making comparisons to the current leader being like Hitler would be a compliment lol. ",
"Hitler: *drinks water*\n\nTrump: *drinks water*\n\nCHECKMATE ATHETITS",
"This makes absolutely no sense since liberals have always touted the news to be fake ... remember the daily show? Are you really comparing trump to Hitler? Lol get your head out of your ass man. ",
"Another example of lacking an argument and resorting to nonsensical meme talk.",
"Ya but back then they used the term \"Mainstream Media\" disparagingly. You can't really look sane while also consistently disparaging the mainstream, sheeple!",
"> both sides are bad\n\nIt's not \"both sides are bad\" it's \"both sides are *equally* bad.\" That is demonstrably false.",
"It's a sign at a protest march.\n\nHyperbolic arguments are kinda required.",
"Well Trump actually likes Jews so he’s definitely hitler....you know moving the embassy to Jerusalem and all. ",
"The names you use legitimize your point so well.",
"Roughly only a third even support him, claiming \"half the country\" loves him is fucking ridiculous and not at all supported by reality.",
"They were on the decline until 2016. They saw a 17% increase after Trump took power.",
"I'm not arguing you are. I'm very happy with my life. And very happy with Trump. You are the one trying to convince yourself that a stranger isn't happy. \nI like watching liberal heads explode and I like watching them get offended. It makes me happy :) \n\nHere's a quiz for you: http://libertynewsnow.com/quiz-who-said-it-hillary-or-hitler-3/article2757",
"And here everyone is telling you that you smell like shit.\n\nTake your own advice.",
"Spied on illegally by the previous administration, currently spied on by Mueller, still nothing found. I love my president! ",
"Yup Hillary is almost Hitler.... But not literally ",
"You missed the opportunity to use a stupid-sphinctre-shouty face of Hitler, just to *really* force the likeness.",
"Lmao",
"It was the democrats who originally coined the term \"fake news\"",
"this is a political sub now?",
"Everyone on this thread is assuming the poster is calling Trump Hitler. To me it just says he's using similar tactics... Am I wrong?",
"So are CNN, MSNBC, NY Times and all the other leftist rags that are simply an extension of the Democrat party. ",
"You're not wrong, Walter, you're just an asshole.",
"what? I haven't lost any elections. ",
"R/pics completely cancerous today with shit tier pictures of anti-trump propaganda and not even and of the positive pics that could have come from these protests. Or idk maybe just quality pics in general...",
"http://libertynewsnow.com/quiz-who-said-it-hillary-or-hitler-3/article2757",
"You are correct. People are upset that Trump engaged in impolite and caustic rhetoric, and they prove their superiority by calling him Hitler and by wearing pussy hats. \n\nWe live in crazy times. ",
"There is something so fucking stupid about the man who recognized the Jewish state of Isreal being compared to Hitler. It's literally mind blowing to me. ",
"au contraire. The american right wing is truly giving the left a run for their money in the area of being a bunch of little bitches. Especially in the area of persecution complexes. their tears have brought me nothing but joy and I look forward to seeing many more in the future.",
"Maybe there could be some kind of... filter... to filter out things you didn't want to see in certain subs. But no, all the people who bitch are the ones who are constantly on their phones and can't figure that shit out.",
"Both sides are bad, but one side is objectively worse *IF* you believe the government has a responsibility to help improve the lives of its citizens. Do you think it’s the side that cut taxes for the few wealthy or the side that wants national healthcare.\n\nIf you were to critically analyze both sides it is going to depend on your fundamental opinions about the purpose of government if you think one side is worse over the other. ",
"Stop lying about America. Trump didn't even have an approval rating of 40. Barack Obama was closer to half the country with literally a 49 approval rating. Get your facts straight. ",
"What's decline and increase. Are you saying Nazis left the Nazism? What is increase in 17 percent. Did their number increased or rally.",
"Wow how original!\n\nI wonder how Trump will recover from this sick burn?",
"I openly admit I don't have an argument lol. I you are the one arguing... http://libertynewsnow.com/quiz-who-said-it-hillary-or-hitler-3/article2757",
"You're all wrong, Trump [invented the word fake](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-takes-credit-for-inventing-the-word-fake-a7989221.html), so there's no way that anyone came up with it before him.",
"Enough about fake news, you are starting to sound like Hitler. Actually, you are Hitler.",
"This whole thread is a bunch of whiny people arguing with each other about whether liberals or conservatives are better.",
"Then why did it turn into attacks on domestic source like info wars (which I agree is 100% fake news)? \"Fake news\" was an attempt to silence all voices that spoke in contradiction of the MSM, unfortunately for them they couldn't grasp how easy it would be to turn that narrative around on them.",
"What does this have to do with unbiased news coverage?",
"Who said that? No one said that. Is liking dogs a political strategy? But if you call the press liars without any good reason other than to delegitimize them you are acting like Hitler.",
"Its kind of irrelevant when its not a world leader screaming about it. That is why Trump is getting shit for it.",
"Is this loss?",
"Can't you also write it as luegenpresse?",
">Historians love him.\n\nObjectively false, and not just because you generalized the opinions of an entire field of study.",
"The number of neonazi groups in America. Hate groups in general had been in a massive decline until 2016 and have spiked since then.",
"They can’t, because it is a product of Obama ",
"Citation needed ",
"Not even bait. Look through his posts and you'll realize he's for real. A real, living, leftist caricature.",
"Hitler said, \"The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one.\" And, \"The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.\"\n\nEDIT: separate quotes",
"> ...fake news.\n\nSo, why do you like Hitler so much?",
"It's on /r/pics because Reddit is an incredibly left leaning website. Due to the womans march many people took poor quaility photos of people marching with signs out in a low effort way to get gold and karma.\n\n Many people who dont subscribe to the far left movement would rather have less US politics in this sub as its a very polarizing topic. If reddit was more towards the center of the political spectrum posts like this could spark lots of debate. \n\nBut instead it creates circle-jerking for the left and makes everyone wish for a ban or at least a temp suspension on such images as any attempt to speak up agasint or look sideways at the politics on display is meey with vigorous backlash.\n\nTheres an argument with meme talk as some people who dont follow the ultra left can do but rather not as to not get buried under a mountain of dislikes.\n\n\nEdit: plz autocorrect work once in a while.",
"Trump doesn't use the term that way though, he uses it solely to try to discredit *any* story that doesn't glorify him, even if it's 100% true.",
"What's funny is I can't find one use of the term in any of Hitler's writings or speeches. If anyone can find one to prove me wrong I'd love to see it. Otherwise, maybe we should stop making this comparison.",
"Nice try but this is a weak attempt at discrediting the point being made here. ",
"I take no stance to either side but yes I believe it's extremely left leaning. Look at all the comments on this thread and you will see.",
"*cringe*",
"If you think CNN or NYT times are leftist rags you have issues dude. They are fairly centrist. MSNBC I have no idea, I don't pay attention to it. The Federalist, like Breitshart and Fox, is hard right, to the point of discrediting themselves due to overwhelming bias.",
"Big if true",
"The press is still free to publish stuff, and people are still free to call them fake news after they lie. ",
"Everything i don't like is Hitler. ",
"still obsessed with hillary. how sad :(",
"Did Hitler further Israel's interests by moving the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem?\n\nWhat was Hitler's position on where the embassy should reside in Isreal? ",
"A liberal made this poster, what else would you expect? I mean, come on, they're comparing Trump to Adolf Hitler. It’s already obvious they’re incredibly low-browed, no need to pour salt on the wound by pointing out their lack of an umlaut, you’re just being a jerk, cut them a *little* slack.",
"Those are a bunch of nothing statements, could be said by Gandhi or a european social democrat, or Hitler obviously. Delegitimizing the press is a political strategy, a pattern of acting that destroys the credibility for one of the fundamentals of a functioning democracy.",
"Yep, Fox News, Breitbart, InfoWars etc are the original “fake news” but the alt-right co-opted the term (rather skillfully I have to admit) to refer to any left-leaning news outlet. \n\nFox News has even admitted ~~in court~~ that it is not real news, just entertainment. ",
"Just the typical leftist way of thinking.\n\nhttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/200/369/161.jpg",
"Yes. Lets all hate on people with differing political opinions than me.",
"30% is not \"half\".\n\nTrump lovers are outnumbered more than 2 to 1 in this country.",
"This should explain some things.\n\nhttps://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2016/12/15/Photos/NS/MW-FC101_news_20161215131112_NS.jpg?uuid=dd9266d2-c2f1-11e6-9176-001cc448aede",
"He's at [40%](http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/01/19/rel1a-trump2c.shutdown2c.immigration.pdf) now my dude ",
">He didn't drop out. He was dragged into a meeting at the oval office where Obama convinced him to get out of the race\n\nWhat do they call it when someone \"gets out of the race\" in a presidential election? Hillary was very popular among older Democrats to to her longevity and the disconnection from the word \"socialism\" that Bernie wasn't afraid to use.\n\n> I didn't take the extreme of voting for Trump\n\n~~But you did. You literally just said so.~~\n\n>Sanders would have crushed Trump like an insect\n\n100% true, but between Hillary and Trump, who do you think Bernie's views align with better?\n\nEdit: mistaken identity",
"Don't let someone using facts poorly make you think those facts aren't facts.\n\nThe press does lie, the press does post stories before confirming them, the press does post inflammatory articles to get clicks.\n\nNot just *their* news source, yours too.\n\nDon't let Trump make you think fake news isn't a problem just because he using it to lie.",
"Not really. It was originally more about demonstrably false content that could be proven wrong with 5 seconds of googling. Not about news that had the facts mixed up or about news that reported a story contrary to the mainstream narrative. It was specifically about Facebook pages that were spreading false and deceiving content (both on the left and right) to play to the viewers preconceptions and gain views/likes.",
"Fake news is as old as news.",
"That's his cabin, Trump has no political background; he doesn't even know the relationship between America and Israel. Stop crediting him with everything good, to hide his screwed up view on his own country and the people in it. ",
"> When Trump won the election, mainstream news outlets began claiming that \"fake news\" articles on Facebook, etc. are what helped Trump win the election.\n\nOk.....\n\n> This seemed preposterous given that almost all media was anti Trump and you had to actually go out and do some legitimate research for yourself to find out real information about Trump and his policies.\n\nIt seemed preposterous that fake news stories helped Trump win because other mainstream news stories were anti-Trump? Huh? I'm afraid I don't see this logic. How is it not entirely possible that mainstream news was anti-Trump AND fake news stories helped him win?",
"I kept telling the Democrats in 2016 \"make sure you are nice to the alt righters calling you snowflake and cuck\". They didn't listen and that's why they lost. It was so simple.",
"Please give your source so you can back up your argument. Otherwise people will think you are pulling numbers out of your ass.",
"LÜGENPRRRESSE",
"Yes, anyone that doesn't support Trump is a prideful child. Everything he does is wonderful and we're all just butthurt that he won the election.",
"Comparing people to Hitler is never a good move, unless that person is committing genocide. The whole point of any comparison to Hitler is to provide a massive guilt by association or to poison the well.\n\nNow is Trump an absolute idiot for calling everything he doesn't like fake news? Yes, but you don't need to point to Hitler to prove the argument.",
"If the press is lying, they are delegitimizing themselves.",
"That's just load of baloney. They were always there it's just that now Trump's president they will always be magnified by 100 times more to make something little seem like giant. This is nothing but fear mongering and nothing else.",
"> reeee\n\nAhh the battle cry of the butthurt Trump lover. I can recognize it anywhere. ",
"When using too many commas a sentence starts to sound like rambling. ",
"http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/politics/charts-explain-us-hate-groups/index.html",
"Source? ",
"http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/politics/charts-explain-us-hate-groups/index.html",
"\"Leftist rags\"\n\nlmao",
"People who compare Trump to Hitler have a serious misunderstanding of who Hitler was.",
"Peoplw have used that argument before. Had some fucking crazy nutter on an AM radio station saying we should change the Australian nathional anthem because some rascits liked it. Even thought the song has nothing to due with race at all.",
"http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/politics/charts-explain-us-hate-groups/index.html",
"The right colluded with a foreign government and laundered Russia's dirty money to win an election, yet it's everyone that criticizes them the ones that \"don't love America\"",
"Don't change the subject. The quality of journalism is not what Trump is talking about. He's using the term to discredit *any* story that doesn't glorify him, even when it's verifiably and objectively true.\n\nThe president manipulating and lying to his constituents is the much bigger problem here.",
"That was someone else. I didn't vote for Trump. Took the cringeworthy option of voting Hillary.\n\nI would also call it 'the political elites usurping the nomination process' rather than dropping out.",
"Considering Nazi Germany had a Minister of Propaganda, who would be dumb enough to trust the government with the decision of who was lying or not.",
"The issue is the president claiming anything that doesn't glorify him is a lie.",
"TIL pictures that have text are still pictures ",
"Literally Hitler.",
"Fellow Canadian. No, it is not really that bad, but it's questionably not far. Trump is at best an incompetent would-be-dictator who has spent his entire campaign and presidency lying, manipulating, and undermining the democratic process and the checks and balances in the American government. At worst, he is complicit with the entire Western world's enemies, and is critically weakening Western power internationally.\n\nThere are a lot of valid similarities to criticize between Donald and Adolf. The error comes in only when you say he's as bad as Hitler. Comparisons aren't meant to say that two things are identical, regardless of what ignorant expressions and morons on the internet would like to tell you. They're the process of evaluating or stating the similarities and differences between two things.",
"You are very wrong. They have been on the increase, likely due to neo-nazis and white supremacists being emboldened by Trump taking the white house. Hence the massive wave of racist attacks and violence across America after his election.\n\nhttp://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/politics/charts-explain-us-hate-groups/index.html",
" Never believe anyone who says they were a Bernie supporter but then voted for Trump. \n\nInstead of voting for Hillary and getting like 70% of what you wanted, you vote for Trump and get 0% of what you want? \n\nEither the person is a complete fucking moron, or they are lying, which is the case 98% of the time. ",
"Don't be too hasty. I would be shocked if Trump never had someone read Mein Kampf to him.",
"i simply adore your username, i said without irony.",
"Hahaha CNN.. I can pull same shit for Alex Jones because both are same.",
"That's right drumpfers, Trump is lit------------rally Hitler!!111",
"Hitler, Jesus and JFK were all great orators. Hitler and Trump were both using delegitimization of the press as a political strategy which weakens democracy. \n\nSomehow JFK and Jesus survives the first comparison without losing esteem because being great orators is not objectively horrible.",
"Bottom line: the press is always right because Hitler. ",
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.",
"You definitely seem like the person who understands basic shit Thomas.\n\nEdit: lol it's a play on his name. thomasscat - Thomas Scat - Scat is another term for shit.",
"Usual reddit swarm down voting about anything that isn’t shifting on trump....",
"Never in my life have I seen a comparison between Hitler and Trump. This is why I come to r/pics, for good and original content.",
"He's more like a more-clowny, less-intelligent, Berlusconi (with Fascist aspirations), than a Hitler or Mussolini. Luckily, American institutions are currently strong enough that he can't do most of the awful things he claims to want to do. ",
">It looks like this post is about US Politics. Various methods of filtering out content relating to US Politics can be found [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/wiki/v2/resources/filter/politics).\n>\n>*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/pics) if you have any questions or concerns.*\n\nLiterally the first comment of this thread.",
"xD",
"I think the parallel is Trump's nationalist mentality that most Americans are against. It does resemble Hitler in that regard. Obviously Trump isn't a homicidal maniac, but the message he spreads is almost as toxic.",
"That as well, but \"fake news\" was a problem before he started using it as a political tool to discount things he disagreed with.\n\nDisingenuous reporting *is* a thing, and is fueled by the cycle.",
"Oh my God this is the 9th fucking post of a picture of some writing on a sign that I've seen today from this sub.\n\nThis is not a good picture in anyway. This is just some shitty writing on a sign and this is r/pics for Christ's sake. \n\nWhy does one anti-Trump march that I don't care about that happened in some American city I can't even place turn this entire website into r/politics?",
"Lol. \"Pretty much nobody\" = 800,000 DREAMers, 8,000,000 children in the CHIP program, and muslim Americans ( [hate crimes have risen by 5% against muslims] (https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/11/13/16643448/fbi-hate-crimes-2016) ) have had their lives effected. It's incredibly shallow, easy, and nearsighted to say no one has been effected. That's like having a cheeseburger for lunch and claiming theres no hungry people because you just ate.\n\nedit: Just so we are all on the same page, the statement was \"nobody can actually demonstrate how trump made their lives worse\". DREAMers may be \"illegal\" but they are certainly people and they have certainly been effected. Lol at all the Trumpers getting triggered by my comment \n",
"I think it matches the general ideology of reddit. ",
"Ironically, it’s the right who are so pathetic that they keep spewing shit like this. ",
"Man this Hitler guy is a real jerk.",
"You should, because UE is the official writing form of Ü if you don't have a Ü on your keyboard. ",
"Hitler was way too smart, successful and charismatic to be compared to trump.",
"Yeah yeah trump is hitler in reality the left is closer to Hitler than the right National Socialist do you get it socialist",
"Actually it's my first account in a year. I was a lurker for a while until someone said that Bush Sr founded planned parenthood lol I couldn't stay silent any longer ",
"Me and my friends got drunk on election night and nearly died from laughter when Trump won. It was a great time. Many memes were made.",
"MSNBC is great. Everyone should watch Rachel Maddow instead of the unconstructive bickering on CNN or the (literally) fake news from Fox news.\n\nAre you trying to create a false equivalency? ",
"please explain",
"\"This seemed preposterous given that almost all media was anti Trump and you had to actually go out and do some legitimate research for yourself to find out real information about Trump and his policies.\"\n\nYeah..... No... When the ads appeared on everyone's Facebook page, I'd hardly call that going out and doing legitimate research.... It only take a small amount of critical thinking and analysis to know when there's BS around. Facebook was literally /r/forwardsfromGrandma for a while... \n\nIf you watch the actual news, you get actual information. If you watch \"entertainment news\" (The Daily Show, fox and friends, Hannity, Rachel Maddow, InfoWars) it's fake and stretched news. \n\n",
"They aren't even remotely the same. Your mind has been poisoned if you really believe that.\n\nIts remarkable how effect Trump's fake news propaganda has been. Now the minute you see CNN or whatever its automatically dismissed without a second thought. No chance of letting opposing views or inconvenient facts in that way.\n\nHere is a simple infographic since you are confused.\n\nhttps://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2016/12/15/Photos/NS/MW-FC101_news_20161215131112_NS.jpg?uuid=dd9266d2-c2f1-11e6-9176-001cc448aede",
">Like do people really think comparing Hitler to trump is warranted?\n\nDuring a TV debate Trump openly advocated for the execution to Arab Muslim civilians after being told that this is a war crime.\n\nWhat alternative do you propose? Do you think we will elect better politicians by ignoring everything they say? How, exactly, should I go about erasing my memory of watching that debate in order to not see the similarities to other leaders promising to commit war crimes? A large hammer?",
"Therefore, Trump is Hitler. ",
"Lol https://imgur.com/a/6ibny",
"LugenTed!",
"> This seemed preposterous given that almost all media was anti Trump\n\nIt's not 'preposterous' that people raised the alarm about genuinely 100% untrue, psychologically manipulative informational warfare. This idea that one person or organization must be 100% flawless to point out flaws in another person or organization is a ridiculous and intentional attempt to deflect from the core issue. If one murderer turns another one in, it doesn't nullify either of their wrongdoings. We neither say, \"His guilt was reported by a bad person, so he's clearly innocent.\", nor, \"This bad person reported another bad person, so they are innocent themselves.\" No. Given evidence, they are both guilty regardless of their relationship.\n\nThe 'fake news' that the media brought up on Facebook and social media was intended to fly beneath the radar and appear to be 'legit', as though it was well-known information; to be even more subversive than 'normal' mogul-funded news. That it was reaching so many people who distrusted 'mainstream' sources and that there was absolutely no accountability or ownership for the content is an *extremely* worrying problem in an information society.\n\nThe MSM can be accused of being negligent or even intentionally biased, but that does *not* discount the fact that there were other black-ops information campaigns with every intent of swaying the minds of the American people.\n\nThat Trump is so busy dismissing the somewhat accountable side, who *does* admit their mistakes (even if the effects have already been felt, as you say), who *does* have a chain of responsibility and accountability, and who *does* make the attempt to verify sources, when he happily accepts the support of actual discredited, openly partisan conspiracy theorists is not what I would deem 'actually fitting' in a free society.\n\nHe may be 'right' that mainstream news has become sensationalized and is sometimes outright untrue (though very rarely without any basis at all), but his focus on critical sources instead of those that support him makes his stance on 'fake news' quite clear: it is all fake, but the fake stuff that supports me is ~~just fine~~ not a concern.\n\nEDIT: It is absolutely *unthinkable* to me that any American would accept this kind of authoritarianism from their leaders. It is one thing to want to *fix* falsified information in modern life - it is another entirely to simply use it as a club to discredit your critics. Trump is not offering an answer for how we solve this problem. He is not offering another conduit for the American people except, 'trust me instead of everyone else.' That American citizens could be not only satisfied, but overjoyed with this ask to give up all power and control to a single source, is soul-sucking and the most disappointing thing that I have ever experienced about my countrymen.",
"I've seen the same shit from nutjobs on the right.\n\nThe difference is I used to have a lot easier time finding non-nutjobs on the right. Some even swayed my opinions with reasoned arguments... imagine that.",
">That was someone else\n\nMy bad, I'm too used to single comment threads\n\nAlso, pretty much every person who drops out of the election does so in order to aid their party. \n\nBernie was a bit of an oddball, but odds weren't exactly in his favor as the calculation was likely that Hillary supporters weren't as likely to plug their noses and vote for Bernie as Bernie supporters were likely plug *their* noses and vote for Hillary.\n\nI'm confident Bernie would rather himself be president than Hillary, but he would also rather Hillary be president than Trump. (Tangent: I'm confident Joe Biden would have creamed all of them).\n\nI still think he would have probably won, but I really don't think it's as black and white as \"Hillary is evil\".",
"Obviously it's not currently as bad as what Hitler and his party did later.\n\nWhat scares us is that we have a history lesson of how Germany went down the rabbit hole that led to the extermination of six million Jews, among other atrocities.\n\nOne of the particular methodologies Hitler used was discrediting the press explicitly so that people would be unsure of what to believe, inoculating himself from criticism and giving him freer reign to pursue horrific policies that satisfied his nationalistic base who HATED people that were not like them.\n\nThat's why so many people feel it's fine to engage in whataboutism. Fox News can lie in a coordinated fashion, with an explicit goal of promoting Republican policies and politicians, but the same people who eat that garbage up feel validated in claiming CNN is just as bad (or worse) even if they do something as simple as airing unedited video of Trump in full context.\n\nIn the last two years, political dialog in this country has plummeted, and it's now almost impossible to have substantive discussions on policy. Inconvenient facts are \"fake news\" to the right, because they feel that defense works for them, and this exists at all levels, from the President, to his administration, agency heads, and other appointees, to both houses of Congress, to the media entities that support the GOP cause, and all the way down to the rank and file base.\n\nWhat's insidious about it is that, until the actual atrocities, people are unwilling to believe anything bad could really happen. And then, once it starts, even reports about it will be branded \"fake news.\"\n\nEven right now, Trump is escalating nuclear tensions around the world, and while we feared Iran or NK could have done some damage, we have never had to fear since the Cold War ended that a real nuclear holocaust might be imminent again. Trump is currently attempting to increase our nuclear stockpile and being perfectly clear that he'd be happy to nuke NK into oblivion, goading their leader publicly on social media, and if the mainstream media reports on it in any way that doesn't make Trump look good then the right will just claim it's \"fake news\" and continue cheering Trump on, even if the bombs start flying.",
"Fucking gottem",
"oh, i wouldnt really call what you do thinking. but im certainly aware that you \"believe\" that. ",
"I'm glad you're so privileged to not have to worry about your situation when a man supported by Nazis was elected. ",
">She even had all the right in the world to own every media outlet **as a private citizen running for president** but after becoming president obviously she would need to close her business ties and not take a side on the media because that's what free leaders do.\n\nThe problem with that logic is that time and time again the argumentative standards for Clinton are subjected to legality while the left loses their mind over whether or not Trump is doing the morally or ethically right thing by the lefts standards. \n\nTake for example this whole circle jerk.. \n\nTrump and his administration hasn't done anything legally to infringe on the media's ability to push whatever narrative they want yet all positive karma posts in here are assuming Trump has done one thing to limit the press. \n\nObama pushing through the NADA is actually an ethically ambiguous action by the federal government but as with most things anti Trump on this site and the left nowadays, emotions are the most important argument from the left. \n\n",
"h-h-h-h-ow did you find out my name? internets talker!!",
"Yay lets all pretend Trump is Hitler.",
"Where did you get \"17% increase in nazis\" from? Because it's not in that article. ",
"Concerning? That was entirely predictable. They should have known this would happen the moment the term became popular. ",
"Are we seriously comparing Trump to Hitler? You people are ridiculous. This is absurd. ",
"^ Examples of fake news, spouted by Trump himself. ",
"Why would I waste my time \"filling you in\"? It's a simple concept. You don't understand? Tough shit.",
"Ok and how did that make them win? Assuming all your claims are true",
"Yes that is why every claim of \"fake news\" has been backed up by evidence and not just been whatever Trump found out to be not in his best interest to be true right?",
">They claimed that if Trump won he'd send us into economic collapse, world war 3, would round of the gays and minorities to be killed,\n\nThis is some next-level strawmen.",
">Yup Hillary is almost Hitler.... But not literally \n\n>Hillary and Obama have pushed more of Hitler's ideas than Trump has\n\nThere are more ",
"So that's where he got it from. ",
"Congrats, you've discovered that changes in policy lead to changes in people lives. What did you expect? No one you disagree with would ever getting into power again? ",
"I mean it’s not like he’s the president and she isn’t. Oh wait...",
">\tand you had to actually go out and do some legitimate research for yourself to find out real information about Trump and his policies.\n\nBullshit. \n\n>\twhich is actually fitting considering how many straight up lies they told last year only to quietly correct the lie a few days later, after it had already served its purpose.\n\nReally? How many examples can you come up with? I’m betting I could give you ten Trump lies for each. ",
"I got a pop up asking me to sign up for daily articles to annoy the liberals ",
"It was hilarious to watch on tv. I haven’t been that entertained since. ",
"Well no one brags about the press being right ",
"Oh dear...\n\nSomeone's been getting their news from r/t_d again, where everything is fake.",
"Lugen means yellow, this is more fake news.",
"> A lot of this is just unneeded fear-mongering imo\n\nTotally. And all it does is weaken the genuine arguments against him.",
"Everything ok? You seem salty. ",
"Better than Hillary ",
"Is he literally like Hitler? No. But Trump is using similar tactics in some areas which in my book would warrant a comparison with AH",
"I think the objective view to take here is that the sign in question is posting two facts. You are free to place them into any context you like. You can draw conclusions if you wish, but it doesn't diminish the idea that Hitler often repeated a term that is similar to something we hear from Trump on the regular. The next question is, is it really a circle jerk for the left, or is it more a moment for reasonable objective thinkers to recognize each other? Don't be so quick to criticize the reddit community just because they notice things that you would rather ignore.",
"You shouldn’t have to go to special lengths to avoid talking about politics on a photography subreddit.",
" Ya. For actual fake news. \n\nThen Trump bastardized it to mean anything that criticizes him. The same tactic Hitler and the Nazis used. Hence the sign comparing the two actions. ",
"I mean it was Hilary that coined the term fake news first, guess shes literally Hitler. ",
"Um it doesn’t? No where in my post did I even imply that that was the focus of my comment\n",
"Jews have always been in media",
"Blame Jews.",
"anonymity + /r/politics + personal demons = total fuckwad ",
"They did, and threw the term out there anyway. What does that tell you?",
"Up from 35%. 33% is a third and 50% is a half. 40% is still closer to one third. And it's still the lowest approval rating for a president after a year.\n\nhttp://www.cnn.com/2018/01/19/politics/trump-approval-rating-january/index.html why are you linking PDFs and not the article?",
"Did you read the rest of the thread that we’re in? This conversation is about news coverage.",
"Exactly. You are still butt hurt about that. ",
"> e has offended so many countries and people by now it is almost easier to count the ones he hasn't offended yet.\n\nLet's start!\n\n1. Russia ",
"Heather Heyer?",
"You do not have to love your government to love your country. Why is this a difficult concept for so many?",
"Now that I think about it (if I recall the information correctly) moving the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem, having a Jewish daughter (and grandchildren), and having the prime minister of Israel be one of your greatest allies actually were all outlined in the first 3 chapters of Mein Kampf... How am I just now noticing this? Thank you so much, you’ve shown me the light. I can’t *believe* I actually voted for Hitler in 2016 and was planning on campaigning for him/voting for him AGAIN in 2020! ",
"Yes, they sound like a [broken record. ](https://imgur.com/NT4zUex)",
"Lol try harder bud you really aren’t fooling anyone. ",
"Not equal, indeed",
"Oh, I guess Trump is literally Hitler, then.",
"Trump's an asshole, but almost every news outlet out there has been caught outright lying. There is nothing that makes it right for a news outlet to lie.",
"Trump hating is leaking into every sub. \n\nHell, no one could fap in their subreddit without seeing net neutrality shit. \n\nEdit. Downvote away. You know you've seen nn posts in porn subreddits.\n\nAlso not everyone browsing puppy pictures wants to see Trump posts.",
"What's wierd is they all seem to want to give up all their guns.... To literally Hitler. Wierd.",
"FOX News = Lügenpresse",
"Dragnald Blumpgfh is literallly Hitler!!!!! It's surely over for him now, how will he ever recover? LOL XD orange cheeto nazi!!! XD",
"Almost baited into being a Holocaust Denier ",
"!A||!B==!(A&&B)",
"Trump Translation Tip: Whenever Trump uses the term \"Fake News\", replace it with \"Bad News\" and you get to the truth of the situation.",
"Big if true",
"Please either explain how the draft is in the drafted individual's best interest and not in the society's best interest or show me how it's universally opposed by respected political parties.",
"comparing hitler to trump is offensive to all the survivors of the holocaust. everytime this happens it slowly lessens the true evil of Hitler by comparing him to just a standard douche bag that is trump. people are free to do what they want, but when i see someone trying to do this I think they are either too stupid to make a correct analogy or they care very little for the victims of hitler's genocide crusade. so yeah, fuck those people.",
"5% increase? Isn't that small enough to just be statistical noise? Plus you misread the article... it says 20% increase against muslims (from about 315 to 380 instances, so 65 people affected). \n\n5% was overall hate crimes from around 5,800 to 6,100. Not to mention all of this is 2016 when Trump wasn't president yet. \n\nFor CHIP, an extension is in the works now and should be passed soon. It was set to expire at the end of 2017 so I don't know how you can point to Trump on that one. \n\nFor DREAM, it's never actually been approved so the 800,000 people you mention were never covered by it to begin with. It failed to pass under Obama, so I don't understand how you can attribute that it hasn't passed yet to Trump.",
">The press is still free to publish stuff\n\nTrump periodically rumbles about \"looking at\" libel laws to do something about the press. Does anyone really doubt that if he ever follows through on that, his proposed changes will target his *personal opinion* of what constitutes fake news?\n\n>people are still free to call them fake news after they lie\n\nIdeally, the head of our government should not be engaging in PR campaigns to influence people toward concluding certain news organizations (which just so *happen* to be critical of him) are untrustworthy. Let the people be free to make these calls for themselves, and keep the executive branch out of it. That's kind of the point of the first amendment.",
"You pulled that from thin air dude, keep trying.",
"To be fair, CHIP funding was in the CR that the Dems voted down ",
"Yeah they’re so similar ",
"Because stick always wins",
"Exactly",
"People, as in actual human beings, are upset that Trump wants to ruin the lives of thousands of immigrants and pull up the drawbridge of those most in need of a place to escape to. Empty suits who get to talk for a living are upset that he said 'shithole'.",
"Ooo! More questions!",
"They're down voting you but you're right. [Proof. ](https://imgur.com/NT4zUex)",
"That’s an incredibly broad statement. Do you complain about “America First” as well? ",
"Let's not forget that this is the man who (allegedly) [kept a book of Hitler's speeches](http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8) next to his bed.",
"I mean I get not liking the guy for any number of reasons. That being said, comparing him to a man who led a genocide seems a tad unreasonable. ",
"I would even go so far as to say all of reality is heavly left biased. ",
"The other side coined Fake News first lol ",
"Something tells me you’ve never felt true happiness. Sad!",
"Though mainstream media like cnn, msnbc etc.. Used the term \"fake news\" way more than anyone.",
"Trump is bad but comparing him to Hitler trivializes the deaths of millions of people",
"I've met most of these people, they all seem like they would stay in their lane, I'm sure this will all work out.",
"I'M TOTALLY TIRED OF THEM SO I'M GOING TO POST THAT I'M NOT TIRED OF POSTS I SAID I'M NOT TIRED OF",
"Dude, I see far more leftists leaking out of /r/politics than I do right wingers from T_D",
">confusing necessary and sufficient\n\nPlz",
"Don't forget Huffpost and Buzzfeed.",
"I personally think geese honk rather than quack. ",
"The point is to call him out before he becomes Hitler. Him and his people are using similar language and are proposing similar activities that were warning signs for Hitler's rise to power. A section of his base are kkk and neo-nazis. God forbid we try to prevent history from repeating itself.",
"More like a Stalin Hitler combo. \n\nDestroy my enemies, the fake news.",
"Very powerful ",
"but the press DID lie about hitler. How is this an argument?",
"Comparing Trump to Hitler is a bit much, don't you think?",
"god you people are blinded by your cult like worship of trump...",
"Yes and every person on this planet has been caught lying at some point. It doesn't mean everything everyone ever says should be called lies. Maybe call lies lies and nothing else?",
"Because its a pic?",
"Oh no! All 58 Nazis in America support Trump! Surely that makes him one 😢😢😭😭",
"Source? Don't remember him saying that",
"Trump is a garbage human, but being racist against many immigrants a advocation for the removal of a race of people is not almost close unless you are insane.\n\nDo you honestly think all racists are almost as toxic as Hitler?",
"But why would Trump do this when he didn't want to be president? Or are all these lies getting hard to keep straight.",
"So hitler is trump?? Or trump talks like hitler ",
"I think that while Trump might not have done anything that evil, given the chance he surely would. That makes him just as evil",
"Don’t think too hard into it, it’s the MSM we’re talking about here. Paid pundits and personalities to push a narrative. ",
"No, not as a cautionary example of where someone, who can’t be bothered with facts or morals, can lead a nation and the atrocities they can commit. ",
"sad but true",
"Daca would've sunsetted without Trump.",
"> here are a lot of valid similarities to criticize between Donald and Adolf.\n\nyep thats where i stand as well. TD uses similar tactics in some areas of his political career, but that doesn't mean that he is \"literally Hitler\" or as bad as him. Though i remember that people during election times didn't seem to understand when i said \"he uses similar tactics\" they were adamant on adressing the issue as if i'd said Trump is about to gas some mexicans. For some reason some people seem to have problems distinguishing these things. or setting them in context.",
"Fake Jews",
"The fact that he's being compared to Hitler, Stalin, etc. while he's receiving 90% negative coverage from the media and there are marches in several cities should tell you how much of a totalitarian dictator he is.",
"Why do people always refer to cable news when they're talking about the press? Have you people ever read a newspaper?",
"Hmm...one person oversaw the holocaust and pretty much destroyed Europe and the other is just calling out bias in the media. Great comparison!",
"yes its so much fun to sit on your ass and make fun of the representative of the american people\n\nYou can pretend that you dont like the policies whilst profiting from them in ignorance\n\nHaha so fun..",
"LiTeRaLlY hItLeR gUyZ",
"Calling someone a nazi or sjw is all the rage these days.",
"Its been notably shittier having a hispanic last name over the last 2 years. The Arpaio pardon has been one of the biggest FU's to my community in a while. ",
"Or Luegenpresse for the non germans",
" “As for what is not true, you will always find abundance in the newspapers.” -Thomas Jefferson",
"Awh is snowflake offended by me having empathy? ",
"It's fake news to air Trump rallies live, in their totality...",
"Or you're blinded by endless propaganda",
"Yes and no. He does fit the 14 signs of facism though.\n\nhttp://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm\n\nWe're at #14 now. \"Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.\"\n\nA lot of gerrymandering in favor of GOP and with Dotard in charge of the census it's going to get worse.",
"Lol",
"I'd like to add the WSJ to that. I know they lean slightly right (just as WaPo leans slightly left), but they seriously have some incredible journalism. ",
"I know this comment is attempting to be edgy, but at some point you have to realize that you are literally complimenting Hitler. Fucking disgusting.",
"he's far too incompetent and undriven to be compared to someone like Hitler",
"Fake Jews.",
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement",
"Why is photographs of things that are political in nature any less \"photograph\" than anything else? Everything under the sun has it's own subreddit that you could make this argument for.",
"Depends on who you call the enemies of the west. If you mean the Russians, they are probably the main upholders of European culture along with other slavic nations such as Poland. In my opinion, the enemies of the west are the barbarians already past the gate. These are undermining our culture, way of life and society.",
"I took the quiz, it was fucking stupid. Half the quotes we're either so simple that anyone could have said it or shit that both the left and right have said.",
"Yea surely none of those were hoaxes commited by leftists trying to push an agenda. ",
"and \"Fake News\" was used to refer to baseless propaganda spread by social media, often with the help of bots or sock puppets, and was quickly appropriated by Trump to attack well respected news organizations like the New York Times... some amazingly quick history rhyming",
"You sound like a little bitch",
"R/pics is cancer",
"The actual news that have had to come out and say “sorry but we got this completely wrong” a couple times... that “actual news?”",
"It would be even less common if the guy wasn't on our TV, radio and internet morning noon and night because he did/said something of questionable intelligence.",
"Anyone that disagrees with the left is subjected to being called racist, sexist, xenophobic, and whatever else im losing track of them all. Words used to silence political opponents.",
"CNN = Nazis \nConfirmed!",
"Read the comment I am responding to. I am responding to a specific point in a specific comment. Not all comments need to be perfectly in line with the general focus of the thread. \n\nI don’t know how to make this any simpler. It’s a discussion website for gods sake. ",
"Well I'll only know *true* happiness when all the liberals are gone... So I guess you're right. I've never felt true happiness. ",
"Well fuck me, who would have thought... I don't go to random people on the street looking for my news.",
"(*Liberal shitposting intensifies*)",
"This is the most reasonable argument, thank you for saying it far more eloquently than I would have",
"This sub is now r/SJW",
"So you're telling me that CNN are the true Nazis? ",
"Comments like this is why we need to be able to double upvote lol.",
"Ssshhhhh don't question the naritive. Red Scare 2.0 is what they want.\n\nBut seriously, Russia didn't do anything to the election. And the only possible way for them to alter it, would be if there's secret shit going on behind the scenes that they don't want to admit to. Because other than that, there's nothing that could have happened.",
"He's saying the media claimed \"fake news\" helped him win. It probably didn't, the aggresive/oppresive/regressive left did.",
"lol not only that, but I know your porn preferences as well. You dirty dirty boy.",
"Gupta: Does Trump have a heart problems?\n\nJackson: no the President is in perfect health. (This doctor treated the 3 previous administrations)\n\nGupta on CNN: The President has a heart condition.\n\nFake News at its best.\n",
"This is just wrong in so many ways. The term was used well before he won the election, uttered by the supreme leader himself. You must not of dug very far to pull this one out of your ass",
"I don't get this idea that criticizing Trump = hating America. I've seen Trump supporters say that if Trump fails then America fails so we should all just support him. This is at least some semblance of a democracy, we have every right to criticize our leaders. I don't get where this idea started that it's wrong to do so or that Trump = America.",
"Wow speak of the devil. Fake news in the title, literal fake news in the comments.\n https://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/societyquote.asp\n\nEdit: Reddit user for 2 days, who's paying you?",
"Guys i don't understand. Is Trump a fucking retard who just happened to stumble into office or is he this evil mastermind that will change the world as we know it? Please reddit tell me what to think.",
"buzzfeed?",
"Canadian here. I don't mind Trump.",
"The “Lugenpresse apparatus” was frequently used with the term “cultural Bolshevism”. Today it’s “fake news” and “cultural Marxist’s” for Anything left wing. ",
"Everyone in the campaign already had plans for after the election. Trump himself was planning on launching his own TV Network. The plan was to cause chaos, play the victim card (unfair elections), assist the obstructionist party of McConnell, but most importantly, make lots and lots of money.",
"Stronk ruse.",
"Wouldn't the more productive thing be to condemn him and say how it's wrong, rather than saying he is Hitler or a nazi?\n\nCould you provide a link to that statement you are referring to? Curious on the context of it.",
"No. I come from Africa, and I can tell you these Americans have it so fucking good it’s retarted.\nEdit: I expect to be downvoted and called a Trumptard, so go at it.",
"Bullshit stories circulating on Facebook and the like",
"I’m not even trying that’s how easy this is.",
"He isn't intelligent enough to do anything at the level Hitler did. He just wishes he had Hitlers power. He will say and do stuff that reminds people of things Hitler did and said, that's about it. He doesn't have the respect Hitler had (from his own people) and he doesn't have the charisma.",
"Trump is a man, Hitler is a man. Pack it up folks, Drumf is D-O-N-E.",
"!=! ?\n\n",
"huh.",
"A moron gets elected who has proven he can't govern even his own diet and caused a government shutdown...but boy did we have some dank memes for the lulz. I have no faith in our future...",
"Still in denial?",
"You mean most cable news? Or do you mean newspapers, too?",
"That really doesnt mean anything. I could say fake news but im nothing like hitler. ",
"Better cut it out or someone will be left with bruises. ",
"It’s not a photography subreddit. It’s a subreddit for pictures. This is a picture. There are things happening in the world that need our attention and this picture captures that. ",
"I know, right?! It's just a matter of time before the mass exterminations and invasions of other countries.",
"Very powerful ",
"You’ve been brigaded! :-)",
"Jesus christ settle down , I linked the report because I got it off 538, maybe i should've linked the Rasmussen report I'm sure that would've made you blow a gasket lol",
"I bet a family that relies on CHIP funding could disagree with this statement.",
"Flashback to propositional calculus ",
"Don’t worry. Liberals think Jefferson was a piece of shit too. ",
"I don't believe Trump is the next Hitler.\n\nBut let's just call a spade a spade.\n\nThe guy is racist, sexist, and homophobic. [He's talked about supporting a fucking Muslim Registry](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/27/donald-trump-muslim-registry-policy-possibility) (Forcing a religious group to identify themselves sounds familiar doesn't it?) He's literally attempted to ban people from entering the country based on religion.\n\nHe is not just dangerous because of his prejudices, he's dangerous because he's in a powerful position and has no respect for the democratic institutions of his country. Does that mean he'll try and alter them? I don't know. But I would be very worried about someone like that in a position like that.",
"The “both sides are bad” comment in context is both sides of the media coverage. Yes not all comments need to fall in line, but they should be generally relevant to the conversation.",
"It’s offensive to a lot of people to call Trump a fascist/hitler. So stupid ",
"This is the argumentative equivalent of “I know you are but what am I?”\n\nYou’ve flopped kiddo ",
"> Pretty much nobody\n\nLMAO",
"Fake news from the independent.",
"I think most of us feel this way, but most of us aren't on the streets with posters. Again, my personal observations with people I interact with at work and in society.",
"Stop being so tribal, it makes you look dumb. There’s far more nuance to people’s opinions than ‘left’ and ‘right’. ",
"First of all, Trump didn't make Dreamers lives any worse. Their parents take full responsibility for the lives they have. This whole mentality that Dreamers aren't illegal immigrants is batshit insane. Their parents illegally brought them here. What don't you understand about that? Enforcing the law isn't \"making someone's life worse\", you pathetic anti-American SJW scum.",
"While you're giving advice to Democrats, be sure to tell them that there is a world of difference between legitimate hate groups and people who disagree with them on what the exact role of government in our society should be. They keep lumping the latter in the the former and then advocating violence against all who disagree with them politically, and it's wearing a bit thin.",
"1.\tIllegal immigrants who are not citizens.\n2.\trandom selection is a lousy system. Merit based is far better.\n3.\tcompletely agree with that last statement.",
"He wishes he was smart enough to push genocide on any person of color or low-class citizens. But unfortunately it doesn’t work with his rigorous golfing schedule. ",
"Hitler was a vegetarian... Bill is a vegetarian... Bill is Hitler. ",
"Hitler was also a good speaker. Does that make every President who can speak to people Hitler?",
"https://www.buzzfeed.com/",
"5D strawmen",
"Nice try pushing a BS narrative. Trump and the GOP have openly said they want to preserve DACA but they want immigration dealt with so in 10 years we're not doing this again. Second, CHIP was extended for six years under the CR that the Democrats are rejecting.\n\nAs far as hate crimes against Muslims? Ran across this the other day and it has changed my mind quite a bit.\n\nhttps://www.fakehatemap.com/",
"Everyone I don't like is Hitler! ",
"\"Intentionally-faked news articles\"\n\nSo CNN?",
"Ever considered that sometimes the news actually is fake? ",
"It’s not “calling out bias” when the President dismisses news he doesn’t agree with as “fake.” It’s immature at best, and a dangerous step towards censorship at worst. ",
"Trump =/= hitler\n\nTrump did some questionable shit.\n\nHitler commited genocide and killed millions in a war.",
"Bull fucking shit, we are on a path to an authoritarian regime in the US and you act like the claim is baseless. It's bull shit. Trump is a wannabe Putin/Hitler. No doubt about it.",
"Sigh. Let me guess, you also think the whole “liberal tears” thing is absolutely *hilarious* and you shit your pants laughing every time you write it. ",
"It's unreal\n\n\nE: haha I love how fast he deleted that",
"Lol this kid thinks Trump is Hitler. ",
"Yeah, Lord knows the alternative news sources don't have an agenda. ",
"reddit made me more moderate about so many things, back in the day it was atheism, now it's politics. I agree with a lot of what they say... but god damn could you give it a fucking rest once in a while.",
"Politics are a big part of our life and there's no running away from them. 2016 taught me that and the trend will continue online and in the real world as well.\n\nAvoiding the click on something clearly labeled as \"politics\" is really not a big inconvenience.",
"It lost all meaning from the moment they started calling wikileaks fake news. Questionable agenda possibly but it only releases raw data. ",
"The fact that you're literally comparing somebody to Hitler and are actually serious about it is absolutely fucking amazing. You've all lost it",
"You're correct, but there is a deep-set irony to everything that the left gets mad at. ",
"I can understand why he pardoned him without agreeing with it. I can't believe that washed out sheriff thinks he'll even have a remote chance at winning a senate seat.",
"Odd, all of the above seem like more credible news services than CNN with the possible exception of infowars.",
"Dear Americans, \n\nplease be advised that even though writing or typing one more letter might be a nuisance to you, we would like to inform you that we have in fact a very easy way of avoiding the Ü=/=U debacle you seem to find yourself in so often.\n\nAre you ready?\n\nHere it comes:\n\nÜ=UE\n\nThere you go. \n\nKind Regards\n\nTher Germans",
"There are an equal number of idiots on both sides of anything",
"He coined the term",
"Trump fed koi fish wrong!!!!",
"What are the percentage of actual \"Nazis\" in America? 0.0001? They should never even cross your mind.",
"The problem is that the mainstream media was peddling just as many lies as those facebook news pages. They created their own downfall.",
"Funny how of all the things to criticize about Trump, people like to pretend that criticizing the media's honesty is the most delusional thing he does.\n\nI mean the press got caught blatantly and deliberately lying multiple times during the election, and has been pretty much in constant spin-mode for one party, and yet Trump is Hitler for calling CNN fake news.",
"Sure, but this isn't one of them. It points to the concern of having a head of state attack the press. Far from nonsense, regardless of how much people hate \"ahurr, Trump is Hitler\" as if you can't compare small parts of them. \n\nJust because Trump acts like a fascist doesn't mean he is gonna kill 6 million Jews.",
"Just like Hillary laundered Suadii money through the DNC? Oh no we don't care about that...",
"Who are these barbarians you speak of? ",
"https://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/trump-kill-isil-families-216343",
"No no fake news like WikiLeaks saying Trump payed Russian hookers to pee on Obama's bed in Russia.",
"Many people are unable to form intelligent points to support their argument. They are equally unable to form relatively equally weighted comparisons. You could say something like \"I believe that it's not a big deal to speed a bit if no one is on the road with me.\" Someone on here will then reply, \"So it's ok that I murder people as long as no one around?\" instead of trying to articulate their thoughts that they feel it is not ok for you to speed. It's the same thing with the whole trump is literally hitler crowd. There is no equivalency to anything Trump has done and the genocide of millions of people. ",
"Grammar Nazis are the worst Nazis\n\nEdit: Sarcasm of course",
"If you had to guess, how could tons of untraceable money and foreign military intelligence help influence an election?",
"I've never heard of it. But yes I do enjoy watching the left freak out. I find it hilarious. ",
"Most filters don't work on mobile in my experience.",
"Oh look. More “literally Hitler” bullshit. ",
"But are people suppose to care that much about the feelings of neo nazi or neo fascists ?",
"Cancer spreads. ",
"Yellow Journalism from the Jingoism days is a good example as well",
"Just your typical edgy high schooler with Che Guevara on their shirts. ",
"Give him time and more power and the sky is the limit. Narcissists see us all as Tools.",
"How about that.",
"DRUMPF === HORTLIR REEEE",
"Of course not, but the MSM and the left are in total fear mongering mode since they lost the election.",
"AfD in Germany actually uses Lügenpresse. But they are totally not nazis or at least a few of them aren't.",
"He was literally saying the point wasn't comparing Trump to Hitler",
">Fox News has even admitted in court that it is not real news, just entertainment.\n\nFox is better than CNN becuase at least they admit it.",
"*I was mistaken in the following post :\n\nPretty sure you have that backwards, first Trump used it to define what he saw as unfair coverage of him in the media, using unreliable sources and generally rushing to be the first to break a negative story about trump, true or not.\n\nThen the media took the word and applied it to the news generated as targeted propaganda that is deployed on facebook and other websites, sidestepping the issue of their own disgusting bias and poor journalism with ease.\n",
"PS: You can write \"ue\" instead of \"ü\". ",
"OR: Criticizing any news organization that reports facts that criticize you has been a tactic of fascists for decades.",
"Is anyone saying that? I thought the point was that Trump is using the same techniques as Nazis to discredit people reporting on facts which make him look bad, and making people distrust all political news so there is less criticism of his false statements (biggest inauguration crowd ever!) because \"everyone does it\"",
"What seems ironic to me is that you wasted time anyway by replying to the comment anyway. It's like \"Hey, why waste my time trying to be helpful when I could instead waste my time being unhelpful.\" And now here I am wasting time talking about your use of time...it's almost like reddit is one huge worthless timesink....",
"As bad as people say he is, he’s not even in the same category as Hitler. If he was like hitler, the people speaking against him would’ve been silenced by now, so they all just need to calm their buthurt asses and be grateful they had to chance to elect against him to begin with.",
"That last bit is a hoax. I don't disagree with you about the fake news thing, but there's no legal definition of news, and they never had to prove anything like that in any court case.",
"You probably shouldn't present your argument like that. Explain the individual tactics but you probably don't have to link it to Hitler. Of course you're going to get that reaction if you like that in.",
"I can't imagine the ego required to tell another person how they feel even after they clarify it...",
"Minority unemployment is at an all time low, Trump ia funding historically black universities and incentivizing entrepreneurship in the inner cities....Definetly hitlet",
"Nope he took it from them. It was originally used by the media to refer to all the fake Facebook stories during the election. Trump liked it, took it, and turned it on the people who coined it. ",
"W-wait... we can agree the news is fake and press is lying though..right?",
"[Like so!](https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19)",
"This is what they want you to believe. But if you think money doesn't change elections, I have a bridge to sell you! And Russia has some more propaganda for you to like and retweet!",
"Yea, many people think the comparison is warranted in the US. On the flip side, people on the opposing political side have been calling our presidents hitlers since there's been hitlers. It always happens, but yes there are people who legitimately think trump is as evil and bad for the country as hitler.",
"Regressive/oppressive*",
"People really like comparing Trump to Hitler when they have absolutely nothing to do with each other. \n\n(DOWNVOTES, INCOMING!)",
" false equivalency",
"I'm not saying all news is fake but they do get a lot wrong ",
"They prefer to express themselves more than they would like to try to deprive their enemies of ways to express themselves?\n\nOr is that not diabolical enough for you?",
"Trump has faced a disproportionate amount of erroneous reporting: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/mainstream-media-errors-in-the-trump-era-your-catalogue-of-the-medias-bias-fueled-failure-fest/article/2614432",
"Literally the same thing",
"1) I think the point is less to say that Trump *is* Hitler, and more than Trump *could become* Hitler if we don't do everything we can to resist him. Remember that Hitler wasn't always Hitler. He didn't start out putting Jews in gas chambers; he started out as a charismatic politician who had some interesting ideas about how to make Germany great again. It was only by a long progression of gradual chance that it got to the point where Adolf \"eh, he's a bit too intense for me, but it's not a big deal\" Hitler became the totalitarian dictator we all know and hate. Pointing out when Trump does something like Hitler should not be used as a way to just vilify Trump and leave it at that. It should be used as a way of saying \"we can't let that happen again.\" Because let's be honest here, if Trump thought he could get away with rounding up Muslims or immigrants and putting them in [concentration camps](http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/joe-arpaio-tent-city-a-concentration-camp-6500984), do you really think he wouldn't?\n\n2) Prominent alt-right Trump supporter Richard Spencer [explicitly](https://www.snopes.com/alt-right-hail-trump-salute/) used the term \"lügenpresse\" to describe journalists who reported unflattering things about Trump.",
"[Holocaust survivors weigh in on Trump-Hitler. comparison](http://jewishjournal.com/news/nation/212949/) \nI wonder if it’s possible, even for just like 5 seconds, for leftists to get off their non-existent high horse, and get in touch with reality for a bit. Do you think they consider even for a second what this comparison means? They most likely don’t even care. To compare the president to Adolf Hitler is a gross dismissal of the horrors that occurred to millions of Jews during the Holocaust. The disturbing and pathetic thing? The left doesn’t even realize they’re doing this.",
"CNN and Fox also fall into the category of 'fake and stretched news'",
">But seriously, Russia didn't do anything to the election. \n\nSource for your claim? I know I'm not supposed to question **your** narrative. But I'm genuinely curious to see where your information is coming from.",
"Nope. But probably to the people who actually lived through hitler being in power for sure. Trump is far from being “literally” hitler and this is /r/pics not /r/politics ",
"Because we don't have a strong moderation of this type of thing. We need better rules, and enforcement.",
"Yes, if anything it's disrespectful to all the victims of the Nazi regime. Comparing Trump to Hitler is just plain fucking dumb.",
"Having a skill, and employing a tactic are two different things.",
"Exactly! I think comparing him to Hitler anf teaching a generation that Trump / Hitler the exact same person is sorta diluting what hitler was actually like",
"Isn't there just as much evidence that the left colluded with Russia?? https://youtu.be/fyuae0Z9_hA ,Uranium 1, etc? To be clear, im saying AS MUCH EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT. Equal... both sides are shitty and shady. ",
"i would rather call it \"Use the same tactics like Hitler, get compared to Hitler.\" \nI remember how germans always got asked how they \"could have been so stupid to vote for someone like Hitler\". Nowadays all we need to do is point to the US and say \"like that\". ",
"Hell no, but every republican president in modern times gets compared ",
"Reelz over Feelz.",
"No yellow is \"Gelb\"",
"You give Trump too much credit. He's not a mastermind. He's just an incompetent president. And he's definitely no Hitler (I just mentioned this to relate back to OP, nothing you said).",
"thank you. i personally disagree with trump on like at least 80% of the issues, but i find myself constantly having to defend him on reddit because people are saying he is literally getting ready to gas lgbt and brown people. i hate it. and everyone wants to act like theyre the good guys, while ive literally seen posts saying trump supporters should be hanging by their necks, or should starve, etc. . ",
"European here with a question: Are world leaders that dismiss literally every critique of themselves as a lie, building an absurd image of a flawless leader within their base and antagonizing everyone outside of their base, warranted?\n\nFill me in.",
"T D Users. Don't get triggered by this photo. Don't respond. There's an ongoing campaign to ban you.",
"Trump's people were talking to Russians who were under investigation...that's not the same as Trump being spied on. Unless you're trying to confuse people w/ false information?",
"I wish Trump would grow a red caterpillar under his nose. ",
"XD holy fuck how delusional are you?\n\nEdit: This mentally unstable person went all they way to my random acts of pizza thank you post to tell the person who was nice enough to give me food that im a bad person. \n\nXD some people are just sad... ",
"It's not even close to that bad. What it really is is a bunch of coddled twenty-somethings with no concept of history or perspective. \n\nThey idolize the civil rights leaders of the past, and since things are good now, they INVENT problems so they can flood the streets and pretend they are just as brave and relevant as Rosa Parks. \n\nIt's sad, really.",
"Fuck this sub",
"When did this board become r/politics?",
"Actually, some of the earliest fake news sites were just to make money from advertising. They made up articles across the political spectrum, but the right wing stuff is what got all the clicks. ",
"LPT: Shitty memes are allowed in /r/pics as long as you print it out and post a photo of it.",
"On the other hand, I'm friends with international students from Libya and Iraq whose livelihoods are completely threatened. They are unable to visit family out of fear that the life they built in the US will be revoked. If they travel, they risk not being able to return and waiting tens of thousands of dollars they have invested into earning degrees in the US. I am glad that he hasn't affected you directly, but that doesn't mean others are unaffected too.",
"America takes in literally a million immigrants a year. Even halfing that number would still be more than most places.",
"Anyone else find it strange that this post got almost 4,000 upvotes in 15 minutes?",
"It's easy to call people the next Hitler when you're laying in bed typing away frantically at your keyboard. Obama was just like Hitler! See? Easy.",
"Am Western. Russia does not defend or represent my values whatsoever.",
"Christ, that's so unbelievably fucking petty and naive. Shit like what you just said weakens actual arguements against him. He's a questionable man, but nowhere near genocide and he's not going to go there.",
"Hitler used the toilet. Trump uses a toilet. Trump is literally Hitler. I mean, think about it, have you ever seen them in the same room? ",
"Jesus can you babies stop flooding pics with stupid protest signs.",
"Steps to control the World:\n\n\nStep 1: Gain control of the media\n\nStep 2: Spread powerful lies\n\nStep 3: If someone calls you out, put their face over Trumps on this sign.",
"Also AE and OE. ",
"How are they pronounced differently?",
"Literally everyone just lives their lives as normal.\n\nYou really gotta keep in mind that the majority of people on Reddit are near-college-age Liberals. This place is not an accurate comparison of America in any way.\n\nOn the majority of Reddit, when you are dealing with American politics you're only seeing one side, and it's a pretty extreme view of that side to boot.",
"Why are people so quickly assuming that others actually think trump is basically hitler? Maybe a few people hold that view, but this is a purely hyperbolic comment in a protest.",
"Please. This is reddit world. ",
"https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/11F0A/production/_88328437_migrant_routes_numbers_v9.png",
"Hitler asked a porn star to sleep with him and was a hotel magnet before becoming president of the US. I think the parallels are pretty clear.",
"At least trump supporters keep their shit to one subreddit ",
"This. I'm really sick and tired of these forced narratives through ad hitlerum fallacies. I can compare *anyone* to Hitler, but does that make them Hitler? No.",
"So the media is infallible. Good to know.",
"The Republican Party has for many years tried their damndest to make it seem as if republicans = America. If you don't support the republican then you hate America. But not supporting the democrat is loving America because we have the freedom to do so. \n\nIt's all propaganda and bullshit but there's not much to be done about it because the people that identify with the ideology also see any failing of their side as someone else's fault. For example the government shutdown, republicans are blaming the democrats when in reality trump shot down a bipartisan bill at least a week before the shutdown. But they're touting it as democrats hate America and love illegal immigrants and that's why the shutdown happened. Not that both sides are being petty children that can't work together, trumps current biggest concern is that because of the shutdown he won't be able to leave the White House **yet again** to attend a party in mar a largo. He's a fucking twat that doesn't give two shits about the job he has only what the job can do for him. ",
"In what fucking daydream are people looking at fringe groups and cults and saying \"now is the moment to abandon the logic and reason with which we've built the world\"?",
"Hitler had hair, literally half of our presidents are Hitler",
"Thats... not what fake news is or was. It wasn't short lived and it wasn't a \"moral panic\" (with the connotations that has) lol.\n\nhttps://www.wired.com/2017/02/veles-macedonia-fake-news/\n\nFake news were/are websites that are made to look legitimate but actually push unsourced literal fake articles in an attempt to push a narrative. They're made to sound real. Unfortunately they pop up, push a bunch of garbage very quickly, and then usually disappear into the void as quick as they came, which makes it very difficult to keep track of them, or the info they are peddling, or to show people what you're talking about when you talk about fake news. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_Guardian Seriously read that whole wiki page (just a couple short paragraphs, shorter than this post by a lot.) Look at that news story they are talking about. That's one story, from this one fake news site, which shared a lot more than one story, and that's only one site out of thousands that come and go as fast as you can keep track. Tell me that wont have an impact on something like a national election for the Presidency. \n\nThey will create these websites to push a narrative, get the site shared to people likely to be affected on social media sites like reddit and facebook. They do this with voter data, data bought from vendors like FB and twitter, and data from firms like Cambridge Analytica and Palantir. To the readers, it might as well be real. Here. Ill find some more for you from a few peoples FB I look at regularly. It's still happening.\n\nhttp://www.magapill.com/p/first-indictments-unsealed-uranium-one.htm\n\nhttps://www.fulcrumnews.com/blog/2017/12/25/roll-up-of-the-cabal-restoration-of-republic-in-2018-the-details\n\nJust a couple examples. You can track a lot of the narrative being pushed on Hamilton 68 here: http://dashboard.securingdemocracy.org/\n\nThis shit was paid for and pushed by Russia in a huge way during the last election and it definitely swayed people's opinion. I see conservatives and Trump supporters posting these sorts of articles constantly. There is never any source, never any proof, just vague \"people have been saying X\" and since it fits people's preconceived biases, they bite. For a long time it's been \"uranium one\" and \"sealed indictments.\" Right now its \"release the memo.\" Hillarys Email, pizzagate, it goes on and on. Right now these people are reading all about how Mullers investigation is all about Hillary, how he's actually investigating the Clintons, how Clinton is actually the one who colluded with Russia during the investigation, and how there are thousands of sealed indictments for top level Democrats. They believe Clinton and McCain were wearing leg boots to conceal ankle bracelets because they have been indicted in secret, and that this is all being hid from the country in order to prevent the deep state sewing mass panic and hysteria. They believe the recent regime change in Saudi Arabia has to do with Trump getting rid of a global pedophile cabal that the Clintons were apart of. A lot of it still goes back to Pizzagate and how they all believe the Democrats and the deep state are protecting a global network of pedophiles.\n\nConcerning enough, these outlets are also trying to gear these people up for war with North Korea.\n\nIt's definitely not short lived. It's still happening. I try to stay up on whatever they're talking about at any given time. It's fucking insane and it definitely has real world consequences. They like to say that Russia \"didn't change a single vote\" during the election but with the help of data provided by the RNC and private firms like Cambridge Analytica they were able to successfully implement a massive propaganda and misinformation campaign that STILL has people pulled in. Votes were changed long before the polls opened up just by getting people to believe enough lies (SETH RICH WAS MURDERED BY THE CLINTONS) that voting for Trump was literally their only option in their own mind, and that's before you get into the pro-Trump lies that were sold. To this day when talking to them, these people STILL end any convo with \"but I just COULDN'T vote for Hillary. They still equivocate and rationalize that she just wasn't even an option based on the info they got from these sources.\n\nhttps://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/17/twitter-russia-trolls-343802\n\nThis is only the beginning of deprogramming these people. They have been pulled into a loop where they only believe sources that reinforce their beliefs. Anything else is deep state fake news that you cant trust. They need to be shown the depths of the misinformation that they're reading. But they are not likely to admit they were wrong very easily.",
"Are you trying to portray a false equivalency with a debunked conspiracy theory? ",
"Let's change \"Nazis\" to \"facists\" and \"authoritarians\" because I believe that's the more accurate concern, IMO.",
"Wow, I wish all Trumpster fires were so easy to extinguish.",
"Well both started with the attempted deportation of a specific group of people and called the press “fake”. They are both starting out similarly. Will Trump go full on genocide dictator? No. But you can see starting similarities.",
"There are a lot of fallacies at work here.\n\nFirst there's what we can just go ahead and call the \"Hitler fallacy.\" It's basically just a hasty or sloppy comparison to Hitler, where you're mainly trying to make a more emotional impact than draw an actual comparison. People have been doing that for a long time.\n\nHowever, sometimes comparisons to Hitler are really warranted. For instance, Saddam Hussein did some very Hitler-esque things. But since the Hitler fallacy is so well known, people often take any comparison to Hitler as fallacious. *That* is a fallacy in itself, a hasty generalization that states \"all comparisons to Hitler are exaggerations.\" Not the case.\n\nThe worst fallacy, however, is Black Swan Blindness. It's the \"it can't happen here\" fallacy, the one where we don't properly account for the *most* devastating possibilities because of how *rare* or *unlikely* they are. The 2008 housing market crisis is a good example. Very few people even thought it was possible until it happened, so a great number of people were completely unprepared for it. The rise of Hitler was also a Black Swan event, and since societies are even worse than individuals at dealing with Black Swans, we probably won't even realize we've got the next Hitler on our hands until he's already in power, committing atrocities with the consent of a people who don't fully understand what they've been convinced to go along with. Another aspect of the Black Swan is that they only seem obvious after the fact; prediction is a problem. Just because Trump hasn't done XYZ like Hitler, doesn't mean he *won't*. To compare Trump's one year in office right now to Hitler's entire career after decades of historical scrutiny necessarily gives the wrong impression.\n\nSo there you go. tl;dr: Hitler comparisons are usually gross exaggerations, but not always, and letting them poison the well of societal risk assessment blinds us to the possibility that another Hitler could actually take power.\n\nLook at it objectively, and make your Hitler comparisons by the numbers. Of course Trump checks off some of the boxes (attacking the free press, fomenting hatred against foreigners) because lots of leaders do, but he doesn't check all the boxes (Hitler was socialist^1, actively campaigned for colonizing other lands and denying Jews citizenship, the makings of an offensive war were there in his very campaign).\n\n1. Edit: see others' replies for correction.",
"And you are a simpleton ",
"Duh",
"So yes, we should help the people here. But the fact that you seem to think we need to continue to leave this drawbridge down, especially when people are taking advantage of it over people trying to do it legally, is odd. Why are the people who do it legally being punished? I have plenty of Mexican friends who came over legally who absolutely want a wall (even though I don't think it will help) and want to close this loophole.",
"LOL morons comparing trump to Hitler. Poor fools. ",
"You mean to tell me that making occasionally inappropriate tweets and genocide aren't the same thing? Fool. /s",
"Not from your continent but it seems that your state Texas want to remove him as a founding father, because of his custom made non supernatural bible version, so he seems disliked by not just your democrat party.",
"See, the thing is, fake news is an actual thing. \n\nWhat Trump did, though, is take the term and co-opted it to describe anything he doesn’t like or is negative towards him. \n\nYou know how he clearly didn’t have the largest inauguration size? He calls that fake news, and he did have the largest size. \n\nYou can’t just call something that doesn’t fit your narrative “fake”",
"To give some more context: It's not only a historical word, the right wing movement \"PEGIDA\" and other groups such as the right wing populist party Alternative für Deutschland (AFD) in Germany have started to use this word quite frequently in the last years.",
"What you're experiencing is referred to as privilege. Not trying to disparage or insult you or anything, but certain communities can't afford to just go on with their lives under this administration.\n\nI myself have been mostly fine, but my stepmom risks deportation, even though her husband (resident) and son (citizen) are legal. My country is being referred to as a shithole. My trans friend fears running into a doctor that will refuse her treatment under this administration's trends towards \"religious freedom\".",
">Dear Germans, \n>\n>please be advised that even though writing or typing one less letter might be a nuisance to you, we would like to inform you that we have in fact a very easy way of avoiding the the=/=ther debacle you seem to find yourself in so often.\n>\n>Are you ready?\n>\n>Here it comes:\n>\n>Der=The\n>\n>There you go. \n>\n>Kind Regards\n>\n>The Americans\n\n",
"Fake bruises",
"You have a source on that? I'd love to have it handy for Fox News watchers I know.",
"Jesus another pic of a protest sign. Fuck this is getting out of hand.",
"I would hold their opinions in a somewhat normalized regard if they didn't themselves go around screaming Obama is a Secret-Muslim dictator that will kill the elderly and take away guns and replace the constitution with sharia law for over 8 years.\n\nWhere were all the \"We should all support him\" republicans back then?",
">But Trump is using similar tactics in some areas which in my book would warrant a comparison with AH \n\nIf that's true then the left wing media was using Hitler tactics when they originally called fox/infowars etc. 'fake news' \n\nIf you now say \"But that news is fake\" then you've bought wholesale the propaganda that you suggest only someone like Hitler would disseminate.",
"I didn't know I'm in r/politics\n\nMy God, isn't this getting somehow lame and just pathetic? ",
"Not to mention a lot of these \"hate crimes\" have been proven false, further hurting the legitimate cases.",
"He's a bad leader doing a lot of harm, but in no way is he ordering the killing of hundreds of thousands of people. Those who circulate these comparisons need their head checked.",
"Two things, first and most important is that popular opinion does not define truth or what's right.\n\nSecond of all, everyone isn't telling him that smells like shit, he smells fine. You, on the other hand, smell like a rat. A rat covered in shit.",
"It was really bad after the election on reddit. People cutting off friend ties because of who they voted for and stuff.\n\nThere was a long stretch of time where it was down vote worthy to even imply someone who voted for Trump might have had good intentions, rather than being an evil person with literally no moral compass.\n\nPeople chilled out a bit on subs that aren't strictly for the left or right, but the implied moral superiority is there on both sides. ",
"That's right. The term first came about from democrats, probably their consultants. Then Hillary Clinton started using it. Then Obama started using it. Then the people at Trump rallies stopped saying \"lügenpresse\" and started saying fake news. Then Trump started using it to describe any news that wasn't favorable to his image- true or not.",
"And comparing a mass murderer to a non mass murderer isn’t? ",
"Ahh, so when Obama attacked Fox News he was displaying authoritarian characteristics? Will he go down as the worst president for undermining our freedoms? Or, how about this, the press has lied about Trump and he is calling them out on it. He isn't a dictator as you can see by all the protests all year round against him or how the press is relentless in its attack of him and they haven't been shut down. ",
"What? Did you read your article? Neo-nazi’s have been in decline. It literally states that in the article. ",
">and then advocating violence against all who disagree with them politically, and it's wearing a bit thin.\n\nSource?",
"It tells me Republicans are lying bastards. ",
"It is easy to fight the enemy you create.\n\nIt is institutionalized strawmanning.",
"You know perfectly well that the T_D crowd severely lacks critical thinking skills, let alone basic math skills.",
"sure if you look at opinion pieces and blogs and click bait, no fucking shit its going to suck. thats why you look at the bbc or washingtong post for the reliable reporting like its always been smh",
"I guess Trump is the only person in the world besides Hitler to say fake news.",
"Still supporting Trump at this point? You gotta be a stable genius just like him",
"That’s right, fake news is international you fucking freedom haters lol ",
"I like how you're defending a logical fallacy by pointing out logical fallacies.",
"they're not nazis \nthe nazis were more coherent...",
"I need to consult them about my horoscope?",
"You know what's a step towards censorship? Murdering journalists. Has Trump done that? No. Has Kim jong un done that? Yes. Did Hitler do that? Yes. Calling CNN fake news is not some dangerous, dictator-in-training sort of behavior. Get over yourself.",
"Just to clarify, anyone who is anti-trump is a social justice warrior?\n\nSteve Bannon will certainly be a interesting appearance at the next Liberal shill conference.",
"There is actual value is watching Hitler's speeches (even more than reading) because the man was a hell of a public speaker. Trump is the worst public speaker I have seen in all of US national politics. And I mean that with all political views aside, just solely an objective looks at his skills.I remember cringing in his Inauguration speech because there was a line the writers clearly intended to be a big moment and Trump put the pause in the wrong place and didn't emphasize the words. It was a well-written speech that was delivered SO poorly. He has no concept of when to pause for effect or what to emphasize. He's got good cadence though.",
"Hard evidence of \"Trump is literally Hitler\" you've caught him now!.......",
"Trump is not fucking Hitler. I'm not a fan of Trump, but these sideways political posts all over this website are just ridiculous. How in the hell is Trump even remotely close to Hitler? Reddit has become a huuuuuge hub for actual fake news. Posts with headlines that are misleading. And most of the upvotes, I guarantee only read the title and never try to look in to it. It's crazy to me.",
"Congress, and Republicans especially, have shown continuous disrespect for democracy already and passed numerous laws that erode it. Trump hasn't done much worse concerning internal policy than the average Republican president of the last fifty years.",
"Yup, I'm literally every name in the book because I believe the government shouldn't interfere",
"But UE doesn't look like an extremely happy smileyface...\n\nÜ",
">generally relevant\n\n>”both sides are bad”\n\n> my comment talks about exactly that point\n\nI don’t understand why you are being pedantic about something you are so ostensibly wrong about.\n\nYou’re argument is based on what *you think* comments should be, making it invalid.\n\nI changed the context of the conversation (which is only a branch of a larger thread) to have a conversation about what I though was a provocative idea. \n\nYou easily could have gone to a different part of the thread where the conversation you think is most important is happening. \n\nYou aren’t going to convince me that my comment was unrelated, because it isn’t. Any individual can see the lines of relevance from my comment to the comment I was responding to, and if you can’t I suggest you read it again.",
"medium if verified",
"What are you on about?\n\nThere's no minority in America that could be killed easily.\n\nNK cannot hit America with their nuclear tech. The only place they can do damage to is south Korea. \n\nNobody wants a war. ",
"Uhhhh. The economy has already improved. Crawl out of your cave bud. ",
"I wasn't comparing them with my statement. In an attempt to unrustle your jimmies, i will make a statement to contrast them. Here goes: They are different because Hitler was self made and had charisma. Hope this make it up to you. ",
"I love that Reddit has simultaneously put this at the top along with [a joke pointing out how obviously dishonest the media are](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/7rxcqw/scientist_my_findings_are_meaningless_if_taken/). Take your pick, Reddit. Trump and the media can both be in the wrong at the same time.",
"So where they are coming from makes them barbaric?",
"You are fake news.",
"I'm assuming you're latching to the locker room talk access hollywood video for the \"sexist\" part, but how is Trump racist or homophobic?",
"Trump had literally nothing to do with any of that.\n\n>800,000 DREAMers\n\nFirst they aren't citizens, so their concerns are literally, by definition of the word, second-class. They're unlawful aliens. Second, this would be an issue with or without Trump as it was already sunsetting.\n\n>8,000,000 children in the CHIP program\n\nI asked you to demonstrate how they made their lives worse. The budget didn't pass Friday night. It's Sunday morning. You're telling me 8 million kids are now dying because of a program that doesn't lose funding for ten more days?\n\nAlso, Democrats are the ones who voted against the continuing resolution for it. \n\n>muslim Americans ( hate crimes have risen by 5% against muslims ) \n\nFirst of all, you didn't even read your own article correctly. Second of all, Trump didn't cause that. Third, the actual numbers (when someone hides their numbers behind 'percents' they're frequently hiding something) that's an incredibly tiny, minor uptick of what was already an incredibly tiny, minor proportion of crime.\n\nI asked you to **demonstrate** how any appreciable portion of the population (let's go with 5%. 5% of the population) has **demonstrably** had their lives made worse. Not your imbecilic /r/politics talking points.",
"So you're saying Trump isn't exterminating people or putting them in ovens? ",
"This does not only include illegal immigrants, but DREAMers who had a legal pathway to citizenship, and even some people who have green cards have been caught up in this. Also, there's the whole *they are still human beings* aspect that you overlooked. I guess you're not one.",
"No, that's what the alt-right pretends, so they can construct a false equivalence.\n\nAs /u/rzrkyb put it above:\n>It was originally more about demonstrably false content that could be proven wrong with 5 seconds of googling. Not about news that had the facts mixed up or about news that reported a story contrary to the mainstream narrative. It was specifically about Facebook pages that were spreading false and deceiving content (both on the left and right) to play to the viewers preconceptions and gain views/likes.",
"I didn't really care who won, but trump winning was worth it for the tendies rage on reddit.",
"Yeah its not like Trump has done said or acted upon racist behavior. The left just calls him racist because hes white. amiright?\n\n^^^/s",
"> it's questionably not far. \n\nEven when you're trying to be nuanced you are completely hyperbolic. Trump has almost zero in common with Hitler. \n\nIt's absolutely insane to suggest otherwise. \n\nTrump is a doofus at worst, really. There's no comparison.",
"...[*sigh*](https://i.imgur.com/Myb4KrR.jpg)...",
"Look, regardless of weather or not one likes trump, we have to acknowledge that in 5 years, we're still going to have a functioning government, and life won't be that much different from now. We've dealt with bad leaders before and we're still fine. It will take a lot more to ruin the United States than one person.\n\nCheck back here in five years and try to prove me wrong. ",
"They did! Indeed.\n\nThat does not mean that:\n\na) There were not other dark-funded information campaigns, which should be extremely worrying to both the people and their leaders in a 'free' society. That this fact is reported by a potentially biased source does not make it unimportant or untrue.\n\nb) A leader telling the people not to trust other sources of information is ~~not~~ (double negative, oops!) the sign of a 'free' society. Trump is far from the first President to suffer from negative press, some of it exaggerated or even falsified. The answer in a democracy is never to use the political platform to turn the people against the President's critics, (EDIT) or to shut down alternative sources of information.",
"Yes, that's the \"alternative fact\" version of what happened",
"Olympic gold medal in mental gymnastics right here",
"What a great rebuttal. How long until you are old enough to vote?",
"Elaborate rüse, you mean.",
"(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻",
">would-be-dictator \n\nkinda irrelevant in a country with a government designed to make it impossible for a leader to be dictator without dismantling the entirety of the government. ",
"1.\tHitler was doing the things they accused him of.\n2.\tTrump drinks too much Diet Coke, Likes McDonalds, Removed Dr King’s bust (because racist), over feeds fish etc.\n\nThose are actual stories. Ran by the news. No wonder people have a hard time believing.",
"I bet Drumpf even drinks water the same way Hitler did too!",
"Ok. And?",
"I used to think atheism was the absolute believe that there is no god.\n\nTo me that's just as stupid as absolute belief that there is a god.\n\nNeither can be known, why pretend one is smarter than the other?\n",
"If it's not meant to be taken seriously, then yes I guess they are. ",
"yeah its only the opposition and Facebook that spread the term",
"Oh, that's a rich one. The liberals are starting to acknowledge their childish delusion.",
"Is this the old trope that people voted for Trump because they were called mean names?\n\nThat's their own fault. ",
"When you compare him to AH, you also ruin your argument. I didn't make the rules, but if you haven't understood that, look around. If you would argue against the tactics without drawing a link to AH, I think you'd get a better reaction and debate. You look as dumb as the people trying to compare Obama or Bush to Hitler. It didn't work then and it is not going to (and hasn't) worked now.",
"I don't think that's universally correct, ie in Turkish it isn't an alternative afaik.",
"To what end? To compare Trump to Hitler, you have to look at his motivations. Is Trump trying to torture and murder people? Genocide? No, he's an opportunist who likes money and fame. And in 3 or 7 years, he'll be gone. Not even close to Hitler. ",
"I hope it's because they were so hardcore that they gave you perspective. \n\nBecause there's nothing moderate about /r/politics ",
"Oh please. You just eat up the lies don't you?\n\n[Fake News: How a Partying Macedonian Teen Earns Thousands Publishing Lies](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/fake-news-how-partying-macedonian-teen-earns-thousands-publishing-lies-n692451) - NBC News\n\n[The city getting rich from fake news](http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38168281) - BBC\n\n[Inside the Macedonian Fake News Complex](https://www.wired.com/2017/02/veles-macedonia-fake-news/) - Wired\n\n[This is how Facebook’s fake-news writers make money](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/11/18/this-is-how-the-internets-fake-news-writers-make-money/?utm_term=.624ea58958bd) -Washington Post\n\n[Inside a Fake News Sausage Factory: ‘This Is All About Income’\n](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/25/world/europe/fake-news-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-georgia.html) -New York Times\n\n[We Tracked Down A Fake-News Creator In The Suburbs. Here's What We Learned](https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/23/503146770/npr-finds-the-head-of-a-covert-fake-news-operation-in-the-suburbs) -NPR",
":) =/= Ü",
"[u](https://0.tqn.com/z/g/german/library/media/Audio/u.wav)\n[ü](https://0.tqn.com/z/g/german/library/media/Audio/ue.wav)",
"I'm upvoting these now purely for the salt in the comments. You people can filter these posts out easily, instead you're here in the comments of all of them bitching about something you can very easily avoid. Seems like it's less about the content of the sub and more that you're looking for opportunity to complain. Well have at it.",
"Oh yeah, definitely very similar people..",
"What actual things are happening to you and your community?",
"I'm also canadian for what that's worth. And I personally think it's extremely important to note where there are parallels. If Trump is deliberately aping fascists I think people should be made aware.",
"Isn’t it kind of dumb to draw parallels to Hitler? I mean, that’s like comparing painters, vegetarians, dog lovers, and anyone critical of communism to Hitler. \n\nBesides, the press does lie, all the time. ",
"Now there's a syllogism that you can't get in college. Ha!",
"People should stop quoting this because it can have a completely different meaning than what I think you are angling for. \"The great masses have fallen to the big lie that is the vilification of germany, and the victor, the West, undoubtly believes and educates their children that this is true and condems them without questioning what made the Nazis any worse than us.\"",
"Media has always been biased. The difference here is Donald screaming fake news at anything that criticizes him. He doesn't care about facts, he cares about how good a story makes him look.",
"I think the people drawing comparisons to Hitler see where the slippery slope *could* lead to unchecked. While I originally thought it was way overblown, the amount of crazy shit that keeps on happening without consequence is becoming increasingly disturbing (actually disturbing, not McCains brand) and concerning. \n\nThe amount of supporters who only care that ‘libruls’ are getting hurt, no matter the cause, is absolutely insane to me. It’s not even an ethos, it’s the most accurate example of cutting off the nose to spite the face I’ve seen on a large scale. They are more than happy to burn shit to the ground if the feel like it’s hurting the ‘snowflakes’. \n\nIt’s god damn embarrassing that these fuckwits have been able to fling shit around this dumpster fire of a government for so long. It’s a highlight reel of the shittiest beliefs, values and hypocrisy in America. Maybe the USA deserves this shit getting aired out on a global stage. Years of political apathy, anti-intellectualism and cultural bankruptcy result in the shitshow that is the current state of the nation right now. \n\nI’m not saying every American is that bad, but obviously there is enough people to reach critical mass of MAGA idiots. The amount of obscene, racist, ignorant, hypocritical hate is mind boggling.\n\n/unintentional rant",
"They're not comparing him to 1942 Hitler, they're comparing him to 1933 Hitler. Simply ignoring all the similarities between them is unwise.",
"<>",
"I think he says and does things that are too close to things we've seen in the past. He rallies people in a spirit of bigotry, whether or not it truly resides in his heart. He doesn't do enough to separate himself so it's just as bad in my opinion. The America First rhetoric is alarming too, as that wasn't a rough translation, it was straight from his Twitter. Whether you find the comparison valid, there is serious cause for concern. ",
">Yes! But there’s a pretty notable difference: in this case the term is being used against news outlets I have a bias towards, and that's unacceptable to me!",
"Here we go again, our fellow reasonable redditors comparing the current administration with one who attempted a full genocide \n\nMental stability here still at an all time high... /s",
"Lol do you understand how hard it is to sue someone for libel nowadays? \n\n\"I believe you rape kids.\"\n\nThis is a perfectly defensible statement. \n\n\"Sources claim that Donald Trump is Hitler and fucks his dog at night\"\n\nThis is also perfectly legal. \n\n",
"> Ther Germans\n\nPlease don't let us look stupid.",
"I believe it was journalist Norm MacDonald, in 1994, who [first coined the term \"fake news.\"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkyrgqPgYLU)",
"It's a contest for instagram likes ",
"I know, right? ",
"You mean like the piss dossier than turned out to be from buzzfeed?",
"America is one of the best countries on earth, you Europeans really can't be so smug.",
"Well you can compare them as far as any two populists. They tend to use the same rhetorical devices.",
"You know that national socialism is almost universally regarded as far-right, don’t you?",
"It obviously is not easy to fight 'fake news' when it inevitably is turned around on all media outlets by anyone who hears something they do not like. They knew that would happen and did it anyway. This was not about fighting anything, not even a strawman.",
"Exactly we do have it good. That's why when we have someone as president who is constantly trying to undermine our Democratic process, blatantly lying to the public, scapegoating the problems on immigrants and minorities, and using similar tactics as Hitler did when he rose to power, people are rightly pissed off. No one reasonable thinks he's as bad as Hitler but the tactics he is using is scarily similar to the ones Hitler used.",
"\"Look, I found a German word.\"",
"There isn't really anyone who really thinks that he is comparable to Hitler, I think that the point of it is to show that we need to be careful with setting a precedent of attacking and undermining the media, since it's a tactic that has been used in terrible ways by people in history. It's just a dangerous stepping stone to start out on, and people want to make everyone aware of what it can turn in to if it becomes a norm.",
"Fox News is state propaganda. CNN is not.",
"> The press has had agendas forever.\n\nBut never before has the media's voice reached so far to a populace so complacent.",
"General politics aside. If Charles Manson called fish sticks \"fish dicks\" and I call them fish dicks in my own language... you can make a sign to tell people about it. \n\nIt is weirder if I do it _knowing Charles Manson has already done it._\n\nWorse still if I find out and don't stop. Ol' Chuck just mis-heard something as a kid. The happened to become an notorious killer. \n\nIf I call them fish dicks too... knowing he did... Well... shit. If you think Donnie Moscow wouldn't grow a Hitler moustache and then say \"it's a Chaplin\", I think you're wrong. \n\nAnd I'd make a sign about that too.",
"/r/cringeanarchy is a good sub to. ",
"That's 100% wrong.\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news",
"O’Doyle Rules",
"Was it fun watching the right freak out for eight years because they were triggered by a black guy?",
"I'm not going to go that far because there aren't good numbers to point to on that, but the increase you can look at the charts and numbers and it's inconclusive that Trump has had any impact.",
"No it's just that every political leader since Hitler is compared in some arbitrary way to him since it's easier than actually addressing what they don't like",
"Trust the news, yes that a great idea",
"Nope. It was indeed initially used to refer to sites that were specifically setup to look like news sites but posted sensational false stories to get shares and clicks on social media. ",
"Comparing your enemies to Hitler solves nothing",
"Look, both the Sun and my room's lamp give light, doesn't mean it's on the same scale or that they share any other attribute.\n\nTrump is comparable to Hitler in some regards. They are populists that dumbed down the discourse of the time and created clear foreign and local enemies to gain the support of uneducated, disenfranchised people. \n\nThey are different in other regards, yes. It's probably unlikely that Trump will start a Holocaust against any minority. But in the OP's photo, the comparison couldn't be more apropos. ",
"Sounds like you support Hitler. /s",
"Well tell the democrats to quit protecting illegal aliens at the expense of legal Americans. ",
"You are, it’s obvious. All the smiley faces and attempts at superiority you have to think about before you press post make it obvious.",
"> Blame \nJÜWS*\n",
"Too bad you can't always filter it out.",
"Especially German grammar Nazis",
"That quiz should be easy, the ones in German were Hitler.",
"Correct me if I'm wrong, but comparing Trump to Hitler is sensationalist bullshit. Trumps a dildo, no doubt, but Hitler strategically murdered 17 million people.",
"It wasn't even specifically the ones being disseminated by foreign entities. I think a lot of the ones that came out were basically just junk made up for clicks and ad-revenue. The problem was that people were actually believing the junk, and sharing it around, and because a lot of people wouldn't click on the article, or would just take it at face value, things came out like the Pope supporting Trump, and all sorts of nonsense like that.",
"Hitler drank water. So does trump, coincidence?? ",
"You have peaked, OP.",
"We've spent decades getting rid of the extraneous letters in English words, now you want us to use more in foreign words!?",
"Wait are you saying Infowars isn't fake news?",
"Great comment, but I think the term is technically “sow,” as in, to sow a field. You “plant” the discord in hopes that it will grow and you can reap the benefits. “Reap the benefits” is also a similar metaphor... I just realized we have a lot of “farming” colloquialisms.\n\nEdit: Why is this getting downvoted? Don’t people care about spelling, colloquialisms, etc.?",
"Or if you put it on a tshirt. So stupid.",
"Blame the fucking media then.",
"Yeah about that....",
"Your threshold for 'nothing' seems to be quite high considering there have been two federal indictments for high-level members of his campaign, but then again if you had critical thinking skills then you wouldn't love your president so I guess that makes sense.",
"luege Means lie",
"Gabe, you fucking savage!",
"Trump is Not Fooling Intelligent People. ",
"ITT: We shouldn't criticize Trump for using same tactics as Hitler unless he acts 100% the same stuff Hitler does. ",
"Hitler was a socialist, Trump is a capitalist. If anything, Hitler is more comparable to the DNC's movement towards democratic socialism ",
">Fake Trump Us\n\n^^YesImeantuniversities",
"37% depending who you ask. I'm sure fox has him on the higher end.\n\nRegardless, I'll hold my judgement until he actually accomplishes something. So far all he's done is made my taxes higher for next year. That's literally it...",
"Because this is literally just a photo of a meme.",
"Hitler came to power in 1933, meaning 85 years ago. 85 years is almost a century. So its not before Hitler.",
"No he is not like Hitler. The Democrats called Mitt Romney Hitler last election and bush. That's just what they like to do when they don't like someone, but not the president who forces Japanese Americans into camps after pearl harbor. Probably cuz we we're actually fighting Hitler .... Republicans do it too though, Like how some Republicans called obama the Antichrist and said he's from Kenya.",
"Get out",
"Not in Hungarian either",
"This is a sad attempt at staying afloat. Just because you say something doesn’t make it true bud.",
"Many people do, we have very one sided media (& Government), and 2015 brought that to light. You can only deceive so much.",
"If you had said 800,000 illegal immigrants your statement would have a different connotation. \n\nThe only time liberal ideas sound good is when you select your wording in a very particular way, or coin new terms all together.",
"That's not what I said... I said the people comparing him to Hitler, the lefties that have lost their minds, are being too prideful to just admit they were wrong. ",
"It's correct for German. ",
"Yes by people who dont know history that is true",
"I thought this was a really weird emoticon for a dude with glasses at first.",
"They latch on to shitty buzzwords no matter how it affects the tone and quality of their journalism?",
"trump defended nazis after one of them plowed a car into a crowd. some very fine people were marching with those nazis. people in this thread keep saying that comparing him to hitler is excessive, but i think that if trump had more power he would be as bad or worse than hitler. it's not his moral compass that keep him in line, it's the limitations of being the president.",
"\"hurrdurrr \"hurrdurrr literally Hitler reeee\" reeee\"",
"The left caused a shutdown because they think that illegals should have rights in our country. Fuck off",
"Yes, the people that admit they make mistakes occasionally, like normal humans. Trump should try that some time, people might like him more.",
"It's easy karma reaping for anti trump pictures",
"She's not the fucking president, retard. ",
"It looks like this post has been infiltrated by the Trump propaganda machine. \n\nAnyone focusing on the basis that 'fake news' was created before Trump is changing the subject. \n\nAnyone saying that news just sucks these days are changing the subject and missing the point.\n\nThe point is that Hitler had a word for fake news AND he used it in the same way as Trump. Whether the comparison to Hitler is apt is yet to be known.",
"But they actually lie.",
"http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politics/donald-trump-terrorists-families/index.html",
"The guy has ticked off every check on the \"road to dictatorship\" checklist, so it's kinda worrying, were just hoping Mueller can nail his nuts to the church door soon.",
"No, it should be said that when Trump says fake news he's referring to news that has been construed and twisted by news outlets so that whatever news outlet can get the 'news' to support whatever the outlet wants.",
"everyone I don't like is Hitler",
"T_D whines about being called names while they label anyone outside their safe space as a cucked libtard soyboy shariablue shill (did I miss one?).",
"He's certainly called for [altering them] (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/21/mcconnell-opposes-shutdown-nuclear-option-trump-urged-in-tweet.html).",
"Crazy screaming college students aren't very relatable. It makes their canidate look like she's even crazier than she appears.",
"I think everyone is butthurt. It's at the bottom of every politically related comment chain from every side. Don't feel like making a solid point, call the other side a snowflake.",
"The press does a pretty good job on discrediting themselves. Paid pundits and personalities who get paid to push a narrative instead of report the news ",
"> using unreliable sources \n\nHere defined as 'anything that made him look bad.'",
"Nope, Trump invented the word \"fake\". Have you not seen his interview?",
"The point being made here is weak, should we have unquestioned trust in the media apparatus? The OP is implying if we don't we are \"literally hitler\"",
"Thousands of **illegal** immigrants. Very key distinction that seems to always be conveniently left out. He embraces the hard work legal immigrants go through to enter this country \n\n",
"The Alt-Left is at it again.",
"DAE DRUMPF = HITLER??",
"Do you think Hitler started out always wanting to exterminate the Jews? Or do you think he probably started out a just a regular racist? ",
"You are 100% right. Money has **no** effect on elections.",
"Let us not forget the correlation between the rise of the term \"fake news\" that directly correlates to the rise of \"p!zzagate\" ",
"Not necessarily, it's more a comparison using a widely known recent historical example of what having a racist leader can lead to. What's surprising is that there are a lot of similarities between the two of them in term of character, but yeah, obviously not actions. ",
"So to filter this out I have to install a fuck off huge plugin, or buy reddit gold.\n\nNah.\n\nsimpler to filter pics.\n\nMy fucking god I've got 40 filters at this point and half of them are US politics.",
"I don't think you understand this conversation at all.",
"But you can definitely make the case that Trump accelerates some processes that can become dangerous. He will move a lot of goalposts and set a lot of precedents and maybe his base will be the foundation for the rise of a more dangerous man.",
"Hitler's biggest tactic was making the people feel like victims under the oppressive boot of the Jews.\n\nThe only people I see using that tactic is the left making the white man look bad.",
"If the shoe fits",
"Thank you. He also just deported 200,000 El Salvadorans back to a country where they have no community (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/us/salvadorans-tps-end.html). This is not comparable to the Holocaust but is that necessary to compare their ideals?\n\nNationalism is Nationalism. Who knows how far Trump will go/be able to go. ",
"Ermagawd Trump is LITERALLY HITLER!!!\n\nUPVOTEUPVOTEUPVOTEUPVOTEUPVOTEUPVOTE\n\n",
"Found the russian/nazi bot. \n\n/s",
"2 for 2 man you are crushing it today",
"You’re just raking it all in, aren’t you?",
"TIL",
"Yup, there's a huge difference between someone using Hitler's political moves and killing six million of a minority and starting a world war. Trump's effing horrible, but he's not Hitler.",
"!=",
"Would this be the brown people who believe in the third service pack of the religion of Abraham ? ",
"Go read the current day (today) accounts of people who lived in Germany and Austria during the 30's. They'll tell you the Nazis got started by doing and saying almost exactly what we see in the US today. \"America Ffirst\" was a Nazi supporting US fascist association, affiliated with the KKK in the 30's. \n\nDon't make the mistake of waiting for the full roiling boil of war, social violence and suppression, and genocide to come to a head. We have plenty of evidence necessary to make a conclusion today.",
"But Mother Jones, Salon, GQ, CNN, MSNBC (and the list goes on) are so ideologically neutral, it's hard to distinguish which side they are publishing to? Yeah riiiiight. ",
"\"Fake news\" is a lot older than the internet. Like wtf. Do people really think that we started calling news that wasn't true \"Fake news\" just in the past year?",
"i wont complain, because i am not using these: '''",
"Look at /u/tehheavyweaponsguy's post history. He posts endlessly in /r/T_D and all it's sister-subs (/r/CringeAnarchy, Redpill, Etc). His complete lack of self awareness is fucking cringe. Apparently he loves political posts, until they hurt his fee-fees and then he becomes a blubbering pussy.",
"Even before Trump said it the term was used and reused and repurposed. This has been used for at least seven centuries as a way of rewriting history. It's only when a free press came along that doubt began to be sewn about events.\n\nCNN is in the spotlight specifically because they have had such low journalistic standards over the last two decades. You could say the same about Fox News except they wear their biases on their sleeve.",
"This was really interesting to read about but the historical context surrounding this deal is pretty different from today and really nullifies any direct comparison.",
"“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”\n\n-Carl Sagan\n\nCan be applied to numerous leaders throughout history. Take from it what you will. ",
"The media has always been lying. What's your point?",
"Trump and Hitler are on another level, that's a sure thing.\nI think we can all count us lucky in that regard. \nHowever Lügenpresse and Fake News is on the same level. I couldn't think of a better translation, that's for sure. It's even used in the same context.",
"Trump trying to delegitimize CNN = Hitler??",
"He is literally \"like\" Hitler. He's a populist nationalist who uses minorities and immigrants as scapegoats to all problems, and seeks to silence and discredit any journalists who oppose him.\n\nHe had a copy of mein kampf next to his bed. And promises the world to \"real\" Americans, who conveniently are all his own supporters.\n\nSimiles need not be perfect. He is evil, just like Hitler.",
"Immigration is currently net zero, but the numbers are irrelevant, because of all the stuff I just said that you're ignoring because I guess not wanting to help people is just normal now...",
"That's not even fair how did you do that. ",
"[Here you go my dude.](https://xkcd.com/774/) ",
"That is exactly where it came from. Trump used their own tactics against them. So does that mean the news is the bad guy like Trump is always saying? Let's just say no, because we all will believe what we want to believe, just like Obama said to Letterman. ",
"But let's keep letting Democrats win. Look at chicago. It's been ran by Democrats and its still in social poverty. Republicans may be jackasses but really Democrats are just blinding you giving a little bit of what the people want and then turning around and pushing their own agendas. Politics are just a comedy show now.",
"Which is a sad way to think. Elections have consequences so I really hope we learned our lesson to not vote for someone for the lulz...",
"Blame jews, blues clues. Same thing ",
"Are you saying the satirical daily show is fake news",
"False.",
"It was the liberal elite that came up with 'fake news' to take on the freedom of press on social media.",
"This is just not true. They have been losing members and there was no reversal of the situation in 2016 nor is there any right now. Neo-Nazis have maybe 2000 members in the entire country.",
"Sorry racists, but it means bad news.",
"Remembered being told in school that Bush would start wwIII. Then told how in the 2008 elections how voting voting against Obama is racist.",
"Having a genetic feature and employing a tactic also does not equate.",
"Stories which were not only incorrect but written by people who knew them to be incorrect was a trend towards the end of 2016 (e.g. http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38168281). Many of these stories were thought to favour Trump, or where anti Clinton.\n\nTrump started using the term to his own ends in February 2017 in this press conference. http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/16/politics/donald-trump-press-conference-amazing-day-in-history/\n\nEdit: full respect to /u/plainoldpoop for his/her edit above. It’s too online easy to dig in and double down, takes a bigger person to acknowledge.",
"Can we not call it locker room talk? Let’s not try to make it seem less horrible by giving it an innocent name. That was not locker room talk. That was talking about sexual assault. ",
"\"racist, sexist, homophobic\"\n\nThis insult is slowly becoming white noise tbh",
"Trump has never hid that he is a wannabe fascist. This sign is merely pointing out just one similarity between the two.\n\nDoes Trump want to kill millions of \"undesireables\"? Probably not, but he courts the hate vote that does and if driving a literal holocaust is the only thing a leader can do to warrant legitimate comparisons then people are missing the point. \n\nI find it interesting that Trumpers gained power just as \"the greatest generation\" died out enough to no longer hold political or social power. This nation literally fought a war to stop the Nazis, and now our country is being led by the most fascist leaning President in history. \n\nThis sign is accurate and necessary, and that fact makes me more sad than angry.",
"Even before he ran for president he faced multiple lawsuits over refusing to rent or trying to bully blacks and gays out of his properties.",
"Let me guess, this is still Obama's economy?",
">would-be-dictator\n\nWhat makes him a would-be-dictator?\n\n>undermining the democratic process and the checks and balances in the American government.\n\nHow has he undermined the Democratic process? Did he tamper with votes? Did he stop people from voting?\n\nWhat checks and balances has he undermined and how has he done so?\n\n>and is critically weakening Western power internationally.\n\nHow has he weakened western power? I find this claim particularly outrageous given the fact that the media seems to alternate between this narrative that he's too weak on some days and too strong on other days.\n\nAs far as I'm aware ISIS has been pretty much defeated (which I would describe as him adequately capping off Obama's long campaign against them, so credit where credit is due), he responded strongly and rapidly to aggression from North Korea unlike many of his predecessors who placated them, seems to have China engaged diplomatically (Oh sure they are \"outraged\" about this or that statement but in the big picture they are cooperating in smacking down NK and are amicable to adjustments to trade), has supported a transition to a more liberal government in Saudi Arabia, etc, etc.\n\nIt's definitely fair enough to not think he's doing well, but to say that his Presidency has been a complete disaster or that he has sabotaged American power is just a joke.",
"Well that ship has sailed, now we look pedantic and stupid.",
"I feel like half the people comparing trump to hitler are referring to his rise to power and how he manipulated things to get there. Which is completely stupid because trump doesn't have a creative idea in his head. His entire strategy is to pretty much say the other person is doing what he is doing. \n\nThe other half just don't know what the fuck they are comparing and think because trump is a pos and hitler was a pos then they are in-turn the same. ",
"Except this time it's true.",
"You just can't explain that",
"So you're saying that part of his post is fake news? ",
"I saw a post from a college redditer, who said their teacher taught them how the fake news story would play out 5-10 years ago...",
"It is intentionally put that way to get a rise out of them.\n\nIt is a brand of trolling essentially, just with more nuance.\n\nBut no I’m probably just an egotist since you didn’t pick up on that.",
"> Like do people really think comparing Hitler to trump is warranted?\n\nThey both go on and on about fake news in an attempt to discredit the media.\n\nThis is a fact.\n\nIgnoring it is madness.",
"40% according to the 538 aggregate , oh well I guess he lost your vote ",
"No, and the people that try to draw parallels are absolute morons and only do it because they think it makes them look politically informed",
"I try not to. \n\nBut it is far easier to believe someone is lying in this situation than voting completely against their desires out of spite. ",
"I hope the past tense in your sentence means you came to realise/learn that's not the definition of atheism?",
"The 'left' is on the right side of history, not much nuance needed",
"Since they mentioned the pardon for the man who was proven to be stopping people on the road just for looking Hispanic, there's also threat of deportation of longterm residents (my stepmom is at risk for this) and children who were brought over as babies, but have lived here all their lives (DACA). The cherry on top is calling our countries shitholes.",
"Because reddit is lefty propaganda ",
"I personally won't be happy until the US brings in hundreds of millions of the poorest immigrants from Africa, and resettles them throughout the country. I'm sure they will quickly change from uneducated and highly religious to being seamlessly assimilate into our great nation.\n\n\nedit:\n... I should be fair, being glib isn't a useful way to communicate -- I apologize. But it seems we are at an impasse in terms of immigration discussion. Many people, myself included, view immigration in the same way Harvard manages their admissions process. Sure, admit different types of people, but do it to make your institution better. Similarly, I'm happy to donate thousands of dollars a year to doctors without borders, but I want our immigration to be strictly in terms of what makes our nation better, not charity.",
"LOL wow you're dumb",
"Up until ww2 Germany was a utopia, 2% unemployment, the citizenry was taking expensive vacations all over the world, it was fucking luxe to live in Germany at the time.\n\nThen shit went sideways cus Adolph had to hold a grudge.\n\nBut up til that point, dude was running a pretty sweet country.",
"Fuk off with this shit. You're really gonna compare the two? Is trump setting up concentration camps now? Missed that in the news",
"Hawaii, my friend. Easy peasy.",
"Unfortunately for your point - obama never made any outward comments about his disdain for people from “shithole” countries. \n\nIt’s well known that Trump hates minorities \n\nAlso - typing away frantically in bed? Sounds like you must be experienced in that field",
"ITT: Concern trolls being concerned.",
"Aggghhh! Throwing Hillary Clinton into a comment thread for no reason! My libtard weakness! I’ll surely support Trump now!",
"So media companies intentionally gaslight and lie to people, but to call them out for it is to be hitler. ",
"If I share a meme on Facebook with false info and it gets shared 100,000 times, that's not the same thing as MSNBC telling false information on their program. A meme from God knows where should be fact checked. I should be able to listen to the news though and not be purposefully mislead. ",
"He’ll only go down as one of the worst presidents because that’s the way the press is going to play it. \n\n* Lowest female unemployment in 18 years\n* 31% gain in the stock market, most since FDR\n* Lowest black employment in 65 years\n* 1.7 million new jobs in 2017, most since Clinton \n\nNever criticize the free press even if they’re lying? Are you crazy? So they get a free pass, and shouldn’t be held to any critical standards for credibility? So in your world you’re okay walking around not knowing what is true or not and don’t need to hold them accountable? Jesus man",
"I don’t know how this hasn’t been upvoted more. Well said. ",
"Oh stop it. Adolf Hitler was all of those things. The guy had most of an entire continent under Nazi rule. He was an evil dude, but he most certainly was smart, successful and charismatic.",
"What will you bet? I want to see this unfold. Though I doubt the other guy will adhere to the terms",
"Trump literally kept a playbook of Hitler's moves next to his bed according to his first wife. He seems to have applied the thoeries flawlessly.",
"A lot of people don't have the luxury of being able to live on in unchanged lives after Trump became president. Additionally, even if you don't feel the immediate personal impact to your life, there sure as hell is an impact. America's standing as the #1 country no longer exists. Brilliant scientists are leaving our country en masse. China has stopped buying so much of our debt which is devaluing the dollar. Bigotry and white supremacy sentiments are on the rise. These will all have long term negative affects on your life. ",
"Considering the trends so far, I don't think it's impossible. Trump was less likely when he beat Hillary I'm.",
"Can we stop comparing Hitler and Trump. I get if you don't like Trump but one is responsible for genocide and terrible war crimes. The other is a fat rich dude, who says shit you don't like. \n\nThis makes it hard to take any of you seriously. Plus a lot of people at your rallies and protest I've noticed wearing Hammer and Sickle gear. Communism death tolls trump ;) facist death tolls by the millions.",
"Trump's policies are extreme right wing, but not fascist. What is concerning is his complete disregard for the norms of US government and his systematic undermining of the press. Like his \"fake news awards\" were for a bunch of minor things where the news source issued retractions and 100% of the \"awards\" went to organizations that dare to publish against him. Note that Fox News, Breitbart, etc. constantly publish obvious lies and never issue retractions.",
"\"Ah, he only tortures animals. It's not like he's a serial killer or anything!\"\n\nWhen your president reminds you anything at all of a murderous, lying dictator, even vaguely, there's a huge problem.",
"No, that's totally backwards. \"Fake news\" as a term predates the 2016 election and has historically been used to refer to \"deliberate misinformation or hoaxes\" (per Wikipedia). Trump didn't start using the term to attack mainstream media outlets until it had already been used to characterize anti-hillary ads that had been posted to Facebook and other social media sites. The idea that trump coined the term is easily debunked.\n\nEDIT: Here's some more detail and sources. The [Christian Times Newspaper](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/us/fake-news-hillary-clinton-cameron-harris.html) was spreading fake articles about Hillary Clinton as early as June 2016. The site's founder, Cameron Harris, describes the sites business model as based on the theory that \"Given the severe distrust of the media among Trump supporters, anything that parroted Trump’s talking points people would click.\" He basically spread a bunch of made up click-bait stories about Clinton in order to farm clicks and shares from gullible people on social media. \n\n[This summary of the Christian Times Newspaper](https://www.snopes.com/tag/christian-times-newspaper/) is very telling as to the site's credibility and intentions. \n\n- In June of 2016, they published [an article claiming Hillary Clinton blamed racism for the death of Harambe.](https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-blames-racism-for-cincinnati-gorillas-death/) \n- In September, [they claimed that thousands of pre-marked ballots for Clinton and other Democratic candidates were found in a warehouse in Ohio.](https://www.snopes.com/clinton-votes-found-in-warehouse/) \n- On November 2nd, 6 days before the presidential election, they published [an article claiming that the NYPD was investigating and building a case against Bill Clinton pertaining to an underage sex ring.](https://www.snopes.com/clinton-underage-sex-ring/) \n\nAll of these claims are obviously and verifiably false. *This* is what the left was complaining about in summer 2016 when they were sounding the alarm bells about fake news.\n\nTrumps co-opting of the term to refer to anyone he disagrees with came later. According to [this article](https://www.axios.com/everything-trump-has-called-fake-news-1513303959-6603329e-46b5-44ea-b6be-70d0b3bdb0ca.html), he first started using the term in December of 2016, after he had already won the election.",
"Oh shit I drank water too... ",
"'I have no idea what I'm talking about'\n\nI guess guess North Korea are democratic too? ",
" Only if you count illegals",
"Easy internet points.",
"I always thought it looked like a glass of beer with foam on top.",
"Ü",
"gotta start somewhere",
"> (just as WaPo leans slightly left)\n\nLol cmon\n\n",
"Rüse",
"false. \n\n[Fake News: How a Partying Macedonian Teen Earns Thousands Publishing Lies](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/fake-news-how-partying-macedonian-teen-earns-thousands-publishing-lies-n692451) - NBC News\n\n[The city getting rich from fake news](http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38168281) - BBC\n\n[Inside the Macedonian Fake News Complex](https://www.wired.com/2017/02/veles-macedonia-fake-news/) - Wired\n\n[This is how Facebook’s fake-news writers make money](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/11/18/this-is-how-the-internets-fake-news-writers-make-money/?utm_term=.624ea58958bd) -Washington Post\n\n[Inside a Fake News Sausage Factory: ‘This Is All About Income’\n](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/25/world/europe/fake-news-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-georgia.html) -New York Times\n\n[We Tracked Down A Fake-News Creator In The Suburbs. Here's What We Learned](https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/23/503146770/npr-finds-the-head-of-a-covert-fake-news-operation-in-the-suburbs) -NPR",
"Please stop comparing him to Hitler. It’s so ridiculous and lazy. That word should on be reserved to the most evil of people. ",
"HEATHEN!",
"Bad bot",
"There are many problems facing us. Most of the ones afflicting me are because the civil rights movement isnt over.\n\nWe're not being edgy, you're being complacent.",
"You’re joking right ?",
"The term first came about from Democrats? Probably via their consultants? In addressing what subject? \n \nActual fake news became a plague in 2015. Purposely misleading, unverified news stories aimed at democrats. ",
"Find any evidence they could influence it.\n\n1. Fake news won't get the majority of people, since they just watch tv news and base opinions on that.\n\n2. If the American government isn't hiding a huge flaw in its process, then 1vote = 1vote and no agency can touch that.\n\nEither the American government is covering up what they did, or they didn't do anything.\n\nAlso the burden of proof lies with those saying Russia fucked with the election. I haven't seen anything that suggests what they did. As a result, why should I trust that they did anything?",
"LOL! Fuck Hitler and most of all fuck that CHEETO!! LOL!!!!!!!",
"He matches the description of a lot of people making sarcastic and inflammatory comments in this thread, and other posts on r/all.\n\nI think we are seeing troll farms getting ready for 2018. I hope everyone one is ready so it doesn't take us by surprise like in 2016.",
"Or rational, depending on how badly you want Trump to be seen as Hitler. ",
"It was this that allowed other authoritarians to gain power by the way, downplaying the seriousness of actions like trying to discredit the media and slowly increase personal power. ",
"Nah, just wanted gold so they could filter. j/k",
"6 million dead Jews? ",
"It started with saying that Trump is a facist -- which is true: he plays up a nativist-corporatist view of the world, where great powers duke it out over colonies and the strongest race wins. Just look at people like Mussolini or Franco and Trump uses basically the same logic.\n\nBut most people apparently don't know who Mussolini or Franco are and so people used the most famous fascist instead, despite the fact that Hitler went well beyond those other fascists.",
"you and everyone else in the starbucks",
"He gave his whole campaign in the hand of one woman. He trusted her judgement and put his dream into a woman's hand. Does trusting a woman with your dreams makes someone sexist?",
"Lol",
"The Russia collusion story is the largest fabricated media story i’ve come across this election. Hillary came up with it the DAY after she lost, and a top executive at CNN admitted in an undercover investigation that the story is most likely fake and just noise. ",
"Everybody is racist, sexist and homophobic. Trump just *apparently* lacks tact.",
"r/bestof is full with this shit, i like it some time ago, now it is only people that write in great detail about some shit that trump did or not. some people over there are the reverse of change my view subreddits and only need facts about how trump is the scum of the earth. i wouldn't mind that, but i really need from time to time to see something good that reddit did and stuff like that. i already know if trump ate 2 scoops of ice cream, i've got reddit for that... ",
"Its fake news from the left (who are just as guilty - more in some studies). But thats none of my business.",
"Yeah, I do feel superior to people who believe things without any supporting evidence.\n\n*I love evidence based claims and I'm not ashamed!*",
"Mainly. But in broader terms: everyone of non-European descent.",
"Hillary also still has a 95% chance of winning the presidency",
"Hahaha, OK. It's the \"brown people\" that are the singular problem to Western society. Not the former superpower that's been exposed for influencing the most recent US presidential election.",
"The democrats beat themselves in the last election.",
"Ü2?",
"It already has turned to violence (Charlottesville)",
"He isn't, but with the things he's said, he might've been if this was 80 years ago",
"Capitalism is failing, and some people are throwing themselves far right instead of looking at what the issues actually are.",
"Avoiding a click on the posts clearly labeled as \"politics\" would help greatly",
"You're responding to someone else than before.\n\nSo let me be the third person to tell you: neither of those two smell like shit, but you do.\n\nSo take your own advice. Check yourself. Because you're part of the problem.",
"Funny how the people who criticize fox news etc (rightfully) have no problem spreading pro-war propaganda and other such blatant lies ",
"they brag about using the term nazis for them because the „real“ nazis did so much worse things back than so it wouldn’t be fair. they of course do not denie that they are nationalists and in their mind they of course are not racists just like Trump would never accept those terms. they are not racist but you know, all the scum should be send back to their shitholes because most of other people are criminals and just try to overpower poor germans with their sick cultures and many of them of course are terrorists. so? what is racist in wanting bad people out of your beloved country? \n\nedit: note to myself, sarcasm doesn’t work well in political discussions...",
"I feel like I'm arguing with H.A.L.",
"https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/without-chip-resolution-1-7-million-kids-could-lose-healthcare-n838991\n\n>Without CHIP resolution, 1.7 million kids could lose healthcare **in weeks**\n\nFirst of all, it's going to pass.\n\nSecond of all, key words, **IN WEEKS**. So nobody has lost fuck all yet. Crying about fake problems that don't exist isn't what \"demonstrably\" means. In case you aren't familiar with that word, it means you actually have provide evidence of your claims. So unless you have a time machine and know what's going to happen February 1st, then no, nobody has been affected by CHIP funding.\n\nThird, Democrats did that, not Republicans, and considering it's a fucking *budget*, Trump didn't have anything to do with it either way. Nice attempt to flip the script you /r/politics-dwelling troll.",
"http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/200/368/147.jpg",
"There is a reason why Trump got elected. Liberal hysteria and political correctness was running rampant over the past 4 years or so. Trump is the natural reaction to that. Trump is a bit of an over-reaction, which was to be expected. ",
"Did they really? I know Alex Jones did.",
"fear mongering trash",
"I think it would be better to say neither can be proven, but you still got your point across :) ",
"It's not comparing them in their entirety. It's just comparing this tactic that both of them used, which is fair in my opinion.",
"Propaganda that didn't go on local News so 90% of voters didn't see it.\n\nIf money can bribe the election, the issue falls on the American government. Not Russia. ",
"Fuck trump more than Hitler? ",
"It's because people perceive the world differently. A hyper-logical person cannot understand how someone could believe in a god, while someone who is not as driven by the logical side of their minds or is more instinctual/emotionally driven would do what \"feels\" right, and not overthink the steps to get to that conclusion. People are just wired differently.\n\nFor the record, true Atheism IS the belief that there is 100% not a god(s). I'm resigned to the camp of \"I don't know and have no reason to think there is a god, but if evidence to the contrary presented itself I would take it into consideration.\" I believe this makes me some kind of agnostic.",
"DIDNT YOU KNOW TRUMP KILLED 6 MILLION JEWS AND STARTED A WAR THAT KILLED OVER 50 MILLION PEOPLE??\n\n",
"Fuck US",
">The Russia collusion story is the largest fabricated media story\n\nSource for your claim?",
"It has made my father insufferable at holidays.\n\nThere, personal actual evidence of Cheeto Benito fucking my life up outside the internet.\n\nEdit: also my friend lost money on the stock market cus a couple social companies he invested in tanked the night Trump won.\n\n2 pieces of evidence.",
"[Fake News](https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html?referer=https://www.google.com/) is a very real propaganda technique currently being deployed worldwide by different organizations for different ends. \n\nTrump has attempted to change the definition of Fake News to mean anything he personally disagrees with. This is terrifying, because when something legitimately is Fake News (such as the explosion in the link I provided), the term should conjure up a definition of an event that never occurred but was manufactured for a political purpose ... not simply disagreeable media, or even [misinformation](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misinformation). ",
"Because one man was throwing people into gas chambers and the other was agreeing to give citizenship to dreamers with no country to call home? ",
"Irony is that fake news was created to bash pizza gate by the MSM. Oh it backfired. Hahahhaha",
"That is a ridiculously hyperbolic interpretation of the point being made. No where in the post is unquestioned trust in the media even implied to be the subject. There are a lot of things wrong with this post but that is just not one of them man.",
"Explain that logic to me. ",
"I have a BS in applied math and a PhD in petroleum engineering. Tell me more about the math you use in your liberal arts classes. ",
"\"We like propaganda. It confirms our bias.\"",
"\"both sides were at fault\"",
"No. The word comes from the extrem right. All tv media sucks but nobody besides the extrem right calls it Lügenpresse. But tell yourself you are not a racist, but...",
"Dreamers? That's a fancy way of saying illegal immigrant. We have laws for a reason, Not everyone has a right to live in america. ",
"Just stating mathematical facts. The only thing that would blow my gasket would be if you posted another PDF.",
"No, answer the question ",
"It's a shame you feel that is a fact. Legitimate media outlets occasionally getting the facts wrong is not equivalent to a dedicated propaganda campaign telling flat out lies.\n\nI guess the only news that is unbiased, is no news whatsoever? Trust no one! Buy guns!",
"I would not say Breitbart is fake news. Definitely not Fox. Probably yes to InfoWars. Moreso things like \"the Denver Guardian.\"\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_Guardian\n\nFake news is a LOT more fake than biased news like Fox. Maybe aside from Hannity.",
"Yes, because they come out and say they’re wrong about some of the facts. Here’s a quote from Ronald Reagan which I think sums it up succinctly: \n\n> “...only those humble enough to admit they’re sinners can bring democracy the tolerance it needs to survive.”",
"Ue! I'm Mr. Meeseeks!",
"Can all the hysterical liberals please shut the fuck up with the Hitler comparisons? Trump's a fucking rich playboy dumbass who's probably going to jail for his collusion that he left whole loaves of bread leading to, and he's hired a bunch of assholes into government positions and makes wildly off the cuff comments that a leader would be privy to keep to themselves. \n\nHitler was a maniacal genius who used his astonishingly perceptive mind to create the single most powerful force of evil in the world, wiping out approximately 24 million people because he deemed them genetically inferior in his quest for world domination and systematic mass murder. \n\nThese two are alike in the most superficial ways and shit like this is why people think liberals are insufferable pussies who keep losing elections.",
"Damn... Take a bow!",
"You are brainwashed.",
"That's just the early warning system, not America.",
"This is the thing all the apologists are missing. You don't wait until the full blown Fascist state is in full boil, you nip it in the bud when the becomes unmistakable.",
"It makes sense keeping close eye on violent ideologies, there is really no prejudice in play. If your peers keep on doing terrible things and not accept human rights, that also reflects on you as part of the group, thats how the world works im afraid. ",
"i never did. others did in these discussions. I usually arrived after the fight already had started. But usually the people there never said that Trump has the same goals like Hitler as well, but that is how people interpreted it. You can see the same here. Some people immediatly go full on darkside \"Sure, Trump killed 6 million Jews.\"\nI don't know what that points too, a lack of knowledge or an unwillingness for a discussion or maybe defensive mode as they do not want to be compared to the \"Moronig germans that voted for Hitler\".",
"Makes it easier to write hate mail. Just make one letter and send copies to all the Hitler in your life",
"Well there you go, part of the problem. Calling those who disagree racists or Nazis or whatever. ",
"> there's also threat of deportation of longterm residents (my stepmom is at risk for this) and children who were brought over as babies, but have lived here all their lives (DACA). \n\nSo illegals are gonna get deported? Good. \n\n> The cherry on top is calling our countries shitholes.\n\nIf those countries were really so great wouldn't you want Trump to send you back on a free ticket? ",
"He didn't murder them at first. . . ",
"Do you have a source on that?",
"There were and are certainly truly fake news articles that were shared on Facebook etc. However, it was always reported that these fake news articles were intended to help Trump\n That assertion may be fake news about the fake news.",
"Nah, the two party system just makes it easy to get internet points by making overblown and almost entirely unfounded analogies against whoever is in the white house.",
"Since this is a German word, I’m gonna go with Zeitspieler on this one. Also because his name is /u/Zeitspieler. ",
"Hanlon's Razor: \"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.\"",
"So he's deporting illegal immigrants and hurting your feelings?",
"Trump can't become Hitler because there's about 1000 checks that prevent this from happening in the government, quit fearmongering. ",
"Heil Trump?",
"You may say \"blah blah Hitler\" but... \n \nWhat single person on the planet causes the greatest harm to the greatest number of people at the moment? \nWho is the one most prominent person all the hate filled people cling to?",
"Nobody here is saying they like Hillary, she's completely irrelevant. Derrrrr well u say my guy is bad but WHAT ABOUT this other person who literally holds no position of power????????",
"How do I block r/pics entirely? Because it’s literally been nothing but politics for a while now",
"Actually, in the situations where he uses that term, the majority of those stories were changed a few days later or retractions were printed. Of course those kind of articles do not get more than a few retweets and are not housed on MSM front pages as it wouldn't fit the narrative. \n\nEdit: Break rules and downvote me for content, not quality. Forgot what sub I was in.",
"This would carry a lot more weight if the entire year wasn’t awash with the retraction of major stories critical of the President...",
"and if you don't vote for Oprah in 2020 you're a sexist racist!!! ",
"> This is the most reasonable argument\n\nuh \n\n> Trump is **at best** an incompetent would-be-dictator who has spent his entire campaign and presidency lying, manipulating, and undermining the democratic process and the checks and balances in the American government.\n\nyeah not really",
"No it's not. If you have to mislead or lie in your protest sign you're not protesting right.",
" How'd your taxes go up? I'm saving $4k/year. ",
"The same Rachel Maddow that created a fuss on trump’s tax returns but fell on her face when she actually revealed that trump payed more in taxes than both Obama and Sanders?",
"Takes 60 votes in the senate to advance the bill, R only holds 51 seats. So democrats would literally protect illegals at the literal expense of Americans. ",
"Occasionally? ",
"So you don't have a source that says the collusion didn't happen and Mueller's special counsel is just there for show? In that case you're merely spreading misinformation",
"Except trump is actually more open with the press than we've seen in the last three presidencies so...",
"Which ONE subreddit do they keep it to?",
"No they didn't. No they don't. And I will not fuck off because I'm an American citizen just like you with my own opinions :)",
"His rhetoric is meant to divide. Its clear as day. I mean, he called his own countrymen \"haters and losers\" for Christ's sake. No one cares that he's \"impolite.\" That's a strawman.\n\nHe bragged about assaulting married women while his wife was pregnant, and his supporters didn't want it mentioned because of the word \"pussy.\" Remind me again who is complaining about politeness.",
"> Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.\n\nKarl Marx, [1851](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eighteenth_Brumaire_of_Louis_Napoleon)",
"That wasn’t the thing that made Hitler bad.. it was the part where he.. hmm idk KILLED 6 MILLION PEOPLE AND STARTED A WAR WITH 50M+ CASUALTIES\n\n🧐🧐🧐",
"You’ve never been in a locker room then. Doesn’t make it a good thing to say.",
"Blues clues",
"I feel bad for DACA kids, but their parents are pieces of shit for putting them in that situation. Otherwise, legal immigrants have nothing to worry about.\n\nAnd if it's not a shithole, why are Mexicans trying so hard to leave?",
"Zee Germans\n\nEdit:because capitalization ",
"You have never been on Tumblr I see. ",
"Because one is a belief with no evidence and one is just a lack of belief. I wouldn't call either stupid or either intelligent. They are just personally held beliefs that there's no point being smug about. ",
"I think the people that miss this point are why we rarely learn from history.",
"What's that got to do with anything?",
"lol",
"LOL haha",
"here, have an ü\n",
"Damn that’s like >80% of the worlds population you are taking issue with!",
"Why's it gotta be *white* noise?",
"I think people forget is that hitler wasn’t the evil person we know today. He was elected democratically in 1933. There were no concentrations camps in 1933. There was no persecution of Jews in 1933. \n\nHowever, he slowly rose and collected his power. In 1936 is when he started to do some of the shitty things we know him for. Then 1939 started a massive war, and 1943 started his downfall. \n\nThe point is though, that in Hitler’s early years as chancellor and führer, you can find very similar and also warranted comparisons. Let’s talk about media and news. Hitler hated the press, especially in the early years of his run and when the press was still free. And slowly but surely he did something about it. \n\nIt’s ignorant to not be able to see trump doing the same thing. He hates the free press (specifically the press against him). He’s threatened to sue the press and get them shut down on the account of libel laws. Even the simple act of disenfranchisement and complete lack of regard for the press puts them at an uneasy and shoddy position. \n\nIt’s also good to mention that they both had scape goats for minority groups that are the “cause of our nations great problems “. Jews and communists for Hitler, and Muslims and Mexicans for Trump. Wanting to make a country great *again*, implying that the country was ruined. For Germany it was the treaty of Versailles (which honestly did fuck the country up), but for trump it’s Obama... To lists a few similarities, you also have wanting to expand militarily and the military industrial complex, increase national pride, focus on yourself rather than the world. \n\nIt has only been a year in his President. Hitler did very little in his first too. But as historians you can see small signs of trumps allocation and consolidation of power... just like many twentieth century dictators. \n\nThe only real difference between the two in their early years is that hitler actually cared for the environment....",
"So if you call out the lies of the media you’re Hitler? Makes sense lolol some people are pathetic ",
"You are correct and trump appropriated the term, much to the media and democrats' horror.",
"Well, at least Hitler was better at speeches than Trump.",
"Honestly, there's a lot of parallels between Trump and Hitler in the way they ran their campaigns and how they conduct themselves.\n\n* They both tried to discredit the press in negative news about them\n\n* They both used scapegoating minority groups to get in power (Hitler - Jews; Trump - Muslims, Mexicans)\n\n* They're both STRONG advocates for Nationalism\n\n* Obviously Hitler held concentration camps, meanwhile Trump pardoned Joe Arpaio for holding literal concentration camps because \"He was just doing his job\"\n\n* Hate crimes against minorities greatly increased upon their elections and neither have really spoken up against them\n\n* \"Make Germany Great Again\" was a common phrase used by the Nazi party, though not *exactly* used by Hitler\n\n* Both wanted to change the way their government operated. Hitler did away from democracy, Trump wants to get rid of the filibuster in Congress and wants his decision to take precedent over the courts while publicly bashing them similar to his fake news stuff (obviously not the same thing).\n\nSo is Trump equivalent to Hitler? Absolutely not. Does it look like Trump is going to try to take over the world and cause a mass genocide on certain minority groups? No, definitely not. Are there strong parallels between Hitler and Trump? Yes. Are people warranted in their fear that Trump could become the next Hitler? That's up to each person to decide.",
"Thank you for asking this question. Personally I don’t care for trump at all. But equating him to a person who murdered millions of innocent people is ridiculous. ",
"wdym?\n\nhitler drank water\n\ntrump drank water\n\ncoincidence?",
"And part of that strategy was convincing the people that the media was their enemy.",
"Only a Nazi would support Trump. Your post comes dangerously close to supporting Trump. This is not a good look for you. /R/pics belongs to righteous, good people who resist Trump. I don't think you have a place here any more",
" So you admit you have no point, you just like to call people hitler?",
"It is that bad. I marched yesterday because Trump the obese white supremacists wants to take away women's rights along with anyone who isn't white. He is hell bent on turning the US into Nazi Germany, and all of his Republican supporters are right in line behind him. The fact that he can do it with a flick of a wrist is alarming. It's a scary time to be in America right now because half the country are racist, homophobic pigs who'll use violence, bigotry, and name calling to silence the other half that just wants to be progressive, free, and equal. It's especially bad because those Nazi Republicans can't be reasoned with. Throw as many facts at them and they'll call it fake news. It's a good reason why the Republican party should be dismantled and anyone identifying with the right should have their voting rights taken away. ",
"I like to remember when the Fake News narrative was brought out by the Left following the election as a means to justify losing to Trump. Trump really did turn it around on them.",
"I'm no fan of President Trump either and I don't like what he says about the press, but comparing him to Hitler is hatemongering and ridiculous. ",
"ANTIFA? ",
"Jesus you are so fucking wrong. It’s actually disgusting that you’re trying even harder to make a comparison.",
"Take two",
"If you took this sign to mean \"Trump = Hitler\" then you might want to stop viewing the world in terms of black and white. ",
"Is the comparison regarding their attitude towards the news false? What should the lefties admit they were wrong about?",
"Detroits last republican mayor was in the 50s",
"Danke Scheiße",
"Stupid",
"Hitler was a completely incompetent charismatic populist speaker. He eventually, through many trials, attracted and accumulated some competent people around him. It would be a mistake to permit things to reach that point with authoritarian, autocratic, demagogs roiling nationalist hatred.",
"Reddit is vote based, the majority of American voters voted against Donald ",
"I never understood the dissonance here.\n\n>My home country isn't a shithole! It's a great place filled with great people\n\n>Don't deport me back to my home country, it's the worst thing you could do to me!",
"So creating a fuzz puts it on equal grounds as Fox News who have apologized multiple times of peddling fake news and Russian propaganda?",
"There is a subreddit that every single picture in /r/pics could also fit into. Pictures cannot be submitted to r/politics. \n\nNot really certain why this has to come up every time a political oriented pic is posted. Obviously a lot of people don't want to hear any of it but these are all tagged with politics tags and you can easily hide them if you want. ",
"shhhhhhhhhhh keep those facts out of here this is the internet ",
"Holy shit we have some sanity here ",
"I always thought atheism was a sense of \"don't give a fuck about religion\" type thing. ",
"There was a bipartisan deal which included the waste of money wall. Trump didn't sign because President Miller stepped in. Do your research that isn't on Fox, Breitbart, or Infowars.",
"> Please fill me in.\n\neasily done: liberal mentality = easily amused. \n",
"Fake Rüse.",
"Oh damn, I forgot about this comment. ",
"Cheeto Benito has ticked off every bulletpoint on the \"road to dictatorship\" checklist.\n\nThe comparison is apt.",
"\"acting like\" doesn't mean \"is equivalent to\"\nAlso it's not just CNN but we both know that.",
"Actually he's right just wrong about the source. Infowars had to admit in court it is not news.\n\nAlex Jones in his divorce hearing testified as founder of inforwars that infowars is a work of fiction, that he plays a character (his testimony was basically that he's playing a character by the same name like the Colbert Report or NPH in Harold and Kumar), etc etc\n\nHe did this because his ex-wife made the claim of mental instability and lack of connection to reality.",
"“This seemed preposterous”. And yet, it wasn’t as Facebook, Twitter and Google have all admitted that they were inundated with fake articles driven by a Russian entity. Twitter will be contacting over 700,000 people next week to tell them that they were conversing with fake Russian accounts during the election. \n\nArticles focusing on BLM, Islam, abortion. Every major issue in the US with the soul intention of creating division. It worked. The US is in absolute shambles when it comes to both internal and international relations and there will be a detrimental outcome moving forward. It seems that the vocal Americans from both sides want to tell you why you’re wrong. No one actually gives a shit about what’s right anymore.",
"That's not true at all. Everyone has inherent biases from their upbringing but your average person is not nearly as bad as Trump. If you feel that you hold the same views as Trump then that just means YOU'RE racist, not the rest of us.",
"Is this real? Sagan’s meme game was way ahead of his time",
"Rofl ",
"hey that seems like sound logic to me!",
"And Obama used the term. So using the phrase alone does not indicate one is Hitler.",
"The comparisons are there for specific similarities that are concerning. He may not be Hitler, but he does act in an authoritarian manner. He works to discredit the press and his enemies and increase his own power as much as possible. He supports legislation that is authoritarian, like a Muslim registry. It is right to find these things alarming. It has always been doubt and complacency in the past that has allowed authoritarians to gain their power. And even if he was never going to reach that goal in his own tenure, it sets a precedence for continued actions like his in the future that can build on what he is doing now. ",
"True. But I think it would be near impossible to get a Hitler-like sociopath to run things again. Hitler came into power under a very unique set of circumstances at the right time. While I don't believe Trump is Hitler, I do think comparing Trump currently to the Hitler we know in retrospect is like comparing the 2010s we are in the midst of to the 1940s after years of thought and consideration. I firmly believe it is possible Trump would commit Hitler-like crimes if left unchecked and if he had absolute power. I do think if Hitler never existed, perhaps we would never do anything to limit Trump from going too far. All that said, I think the comparison is fine because if we place leaders on a scale from Lincoln to Hitler, Trump is closer to Hitler. Maybe seeing the parallels in historical context is what we need. Maybe Trump is more like Hitler 1937 than 1944. Maybe Trump is more like Nixon with the authoritarian mind of Hitler. In any case, he's by far the worst president we've had in more than a century. He's certainly no leader. ",
"Why? Just let people upvote the content they want. I hate progress pics but I don't think the sub should change the rules, I just ignore those posts.",
"NY Times articles from the 1980's -- which I remember reading at the time.\n\nEdit: a simple Google search will bring up multiple results, give it a try!",
"Damn, I had forgotten about this comment ",
"Can we just stop with Hitler comparisons? Not only are they unnecessarily inflammatory they just don’t make any sense and it’s going to desensitize people to it. If there’s ever someone who is “literally Hitler” people are just going to say “well Trump was Hitler, so was Bush, try probably called Romney Hitler at some point too” ",
"If you honestly believe that Trump is anything like Hitler, you’re an idiot.",
"The point is that unless the leader has any proof they shouldn’t work towards discrediting media. It’s up to the public to research the information presented to them. But when a leader starts calling everything that disagrees with their views and narrative “fake news” then we have a problem. Then the public is confused as to what to believe and some are far more willing to believe whatever the leader says as truth. And we all know what happens when government officials have too much power and a blind and uninformed public.",
"this image has made me finally take the decision of filter this sub. I don't know why I've waited so long",
"I'm a smart guy, a very smart guy, sometimes the smartest guy in the room. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.",
"There you go again! Can't help yourself can you?",
"Might be this:\nhttp://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politics/donald-trump-terrorists-families/index.html\n\nEven if this is not the specific instance the previous post was talking about, my link has quotes of Trump advocating for war crimes.\n\nWe do not live in normal times. ",
"Nope, that's just what you tell yourself to dismiss what he is saying about this sub. You will probably dig through my post history to dismiss what i'm saying too.",
"It's still controversial to state p much anything negative about the left. I stopped pointing out the Dems kinda sabotaged themselves and many people were picking between two incredibly shitty options when I lost karma for the fourth time.",
"Never mind was a joke about who would be the ones who would be offended :P\n\nWhile both trump and Hitler rose to power on populism, rather then the traditional party line politics, then I dont see much more similarity in actions.",
"Yep and soon we're going to be rounding up all the gays, blacks, illegals, and have them gassed. Oh wait no we aren't you fucking morons.",
"Lol you're just outing yourself as republican-lite.",
"Very true. I fear it won't take much for that to turn into *widespread, ubiquitous violence.",
"Some modern context for the word: Followers AfD and Pegida, the new German far right party – and as I know I will get those replies: a party where severeal party chairs and members repeatedly say clearly far right thing (Höcke, Poggenburg,...) without having to fear any consequences has to be called far right – and a far right protest movement centered on Dresden – same comment –, started to use Lügenpresse in Hitler's sense of the word bavk in 2015 or so. They have also adopted the term Fake News quickly after Trump coined it. Every other month we have some leading AfD member digging out a Nazi propaganda term and pretending it's a completely normal thing to use them.",
"Jake Juice",
"I see a dude with a huge nose",
"Those countries could be the best in the world, but it doesn't matter because their families are here. I'd assume you wouldn't want to be deported to any other country and leave your family and what you've built here behind, regardless of how great that country is. I suggest you learn some empathy.",
"It's bad because of the precedent it sends. If we normalize the sort of behavior that has blossomed within the past few years, then in 2020 we're going to ask ourselves why we let President Guy Fieri rename Washington DC into Flavortown. ",
"Believe it or not genocide was not the first thing he accomplished. It is slow steps down a dark path that allow for such things. Just because we are moving slowly doesn't mean you can ignore where we are headed.",
"RES makes Reddit so much better on desktop, at least give it a shot before complaining about it.",
"News ruse!",
"> Just to clarify, anyone who is anti-trump is a social justice warrior?\n\nOf course not, but when you spam retarded pictures of edgy protest signs comparing an old orange guy you don't like to arguably the worst person to ever walk the face of this earth, yes. It makes you a social justice warrior.",
"Sure. But has your president ever ordered anyone to be killed because you bad mouth him? Do you all burn people alive for stealing a loaf of bread? Are gays sought out and killed because of who they are? I think you all have reached your goal of freedom and a good life that you forget how good you have it. Lol, you all would not last a day in my country. ",
">Obama was just like Hitler! See? Easy.\n\nWow you sure zinged him with that zinger, there \n🙄",
"Hang on there do you mean politics should stay *IN* the politics subreddit? ",
"Fake twos",
"apples to oranges ",
"Don't inject logic into the circlejerk...next, someone will be cherry picking articles refuting your claim.\n\nAnyone that doesn't believe the MSM is biased is not thinking objectively, and believing what they want to believe. The MSM is the military wing of the Democrat Party.",
"LE DRUMPF = HITLER LELZZZ",
"From what I remember, historians didn't love Truman. Source?",
"but lackwit liberals enjoy it as it confirms their bias.",
"You're right. Trump = Hitler confirmed. ",
"that's not true... post WW1 Germany had huge problems, \nboth economicaly and socially.",
"To be fair they're not calling him Hitler. They're just saying he acts in many ways Hitler acted. You'd be foolish to believe Trump wouldn't love being this generations Hitler. He just doesn't have it as easy",
"I'm sure all this who died in the holocaust would turn in their grave at the comparisons",
"(sources and studies conspicuously absent)",
"Compare =/= Equate",
"Yes, it should have been an ApacheHelichopterKin DemiFoxsexual\n\n/s just incase ",
"Pamela Anderson: Fake Boobs.",
"After slowly feeding spoonfulls of fish food, PM Shinzo Abe pours his leftover fish food into the pond. Trump does the same, following his host:\n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/futPQIB.gifv (0:08s)\n\nCNN *DELIBERATELY EDITS* the video footage to [remove Abe](https://youtu.be/P4X4fRAySX0?t=42). Only shows Trump dumping his box in (watch that artful zoom!).\n\nHow the media reacts: https://i.imgur.com/RYHJU8A.jpg\n\nHow /politics [reacts](http://archive.is/4iR1r).\n\n&nbsp; \n\n>If the media will maliciously edit a story as harmless as *Trump feeding fish* to make him look bad, imagine what else they've done every day this [past year](https://imgur.com/a/7COOG). ",
"What if the noun isn't masculine 1st case?",
"So glad this was posted. After seeing this picture I’m no longer a Trump support. /s",
"The point of the comparison is not to somehow impute the Holocaust to Trump, or to suggest that Trump’s cynical open war on the truth will inevitably lead to genocide. The point is that Trump is pulling some pages out of the authoritarian playbook, and one of them is to try to discredit and delegitimize everyone who criticizes him, rather than addressing the criticism on its face. It’s not coincidence that Hitler (and a number of other authoritarians) did that too. ",
"Well fuck UE",
"You bastard! Now I'll *never* unsee that!",
"It's bad because of the precedent it sends. If we normalize the sort of behavior that has blossomed within the past few years, then in 2020 we're going to ask ourselves why we let President Guy Fieri rename Washington DC into Flavortown. ",
"Yet. Hitler wasn't Hitler until well into his second decade of power, by your logic. ",
"You made one argument, he made a tangential one. The \"he's denying their humanity\" argument only comes from the left, and it *is* a complete strawman, since absolutely no one on the right thinks that way. He's not going to address that argument because it's not a realistic portrayal of the subject at hand.",
"Yeah. Mussolini is way more appropriate\n\nEdit: sarcasm",
"> I used to think atheism was the absolute believe that there is no god.\n\n\nThat is still what it is. The etymology of the word is \"A-\" which is the greek prefix for \"without\" and \"Theos\" greek for \"god or deity\".\n\nBy identifying as an \"Atheist\" you are assuming the burden of proof to show—empirically or otherwise—that there is no god. I don't think you could claim to be a legit atheist without a pretty good knowledge about every god and religion so that you can positively profess a knowledge of belief that there is no god. \n\nI have much more respect for the position that someone doesn't know one way or the other, isn't persuaded by any religion he/she ever came across, or just doesn't care about the issue. ",
"It's not that he is a totalitarian dictator; it's that he seems like he wishes he could operate like one.",
"Democrats are fucking bitches",
"It was a metaphor for how groupies throw themselves at the rich and famous. If you think he was talking about actually grabbing pussy, you're living in a bubble where words are hurting you far too much",
"Can somebody please do me a favor and explain why there is a picture of Hitler's with quotations next to the word \"Lugenpresse\"?",
"The biggest problem is that people think you're comparing Trump's *first* year in power with Hitler's *tenth* year. The descent into fascism and whatnot doesn't happen overnight, it's a slow burn.\n\nI should mention, barring some major international catastrophe, I don't think Trump could ever reach the level of Hitler. I do think he plays by the same playbook, though, and that alone should be enough to criticize him on.",
"So stupid and just plain ignorant. Trump has far more in common with Bill Clinton than Hitler. Reeks of desperation. ",
"[Please refer to my comment here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rxt2e/lugenpresse/dt0nwuw/)",
"This had 2k upvotes 40 minutes ago 🤔\n \nEDIT: SO at 2hrs this post had 2.3k upvotes. Now we're at 3hrs and it has 17k... That's not suspicious at all.",
"We've (Americans) have really shifted away emphasizing critical thinking in this country.",
"He isn’t Hitler *yet*",
"Ö",
"2 cities in japan. What happened to all those people in china. No one in that war was good.\n\nEdit: So its clear the china part was a hit on japan.\n\nEdit2: I won't be replying to any more comments below. Just comment on one of the threads below if you feel like having a debate.",
"Reddit is full of left SJW that have no idea about politics what so ever and call everyone that is against their opinion a \"nazi\". My jewish friends would punch the fuck out of you if you would compare trump who as right of now has done only good things for the USA ,with hitler, the worst human being together with stalin in the 20st century.",
"> Everyone has inherent biases from their upbringing\n\nYou could have just stopped there while we were talking about the same thing (I agree by the way).\n\nNo need to continue to try to put words into my mouth and create a straw man.",
"Interesting point. Just a recent thought I had, Hitler rose to power because of the general unrest many germans felt due to how they were treated in the peace treaties following WWI. \n\nWas there a similar event or series of events in the US that could have caused the same opinions to form that allowed someone like trump to gain as much standing?",
"When nazi Trump supporters are injuring and killing people in the streets as they did in Charlottesville [while his nazi supporters literally use the German word Lugenpresse to talk about the media at his rallies](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/us-election-donald-trump-supporters-nazi-term-lugenpresse-gettysburg-rally-republican-party-a7376176.html) then it isn't even hyperbolic.\n\nNazism and other forms of white supremacy are growing in the US, That is a fact, and half the population wants to ignore or deny it for political expediency. I'm sure that will turn out well.\n",
"It's your argument, I'm not doing your research ",
"Not entire sure if you'd consider this much of a valid source, but https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/every-moment-donald-trumps-long-complicated-history-race\n\nAnd I mean, do you really need this to believe Trump is a racist, you know, the guy who hammered and supported the notion that the first black president was actually a secret muslim from Kenya?",
"Don't forget about Trump calling for people to gun down Hillary if she were to win.",
"If your stepmom came here illegally, I hope she gets deported :^)",
"I think you might be onto something.",
"The news is lying a lot, same goes for every government. What hasn't changed since WW2 is that the press and the media is controlled by the Jews.",
"The German far right party the AFD are in all seriousness using this again.",
"Which part of what I said is not true, exactly?",
"In my German class, we are told by our teacher that \"Lügenpresse\" has a really heavy nazi connotation and we should never say that if we were talking to a German person about American fake news. If we did get on the subject, we would just say fake news. Interesting I say!",
"This is the greatest irony of these Nazi quotes. Usually they are talking about Jewish communist tactics, not their own.",
"Hitler: \"German words\"\n\nTrump: \"German words translated to English\"\n\nTrump is literally Hitler confirmed. ",
"Hitler's \"fake news\" was one of the ways in which his regime eventually shut down freedom of speech/press.\n\nComparing someone to Hitler simply over distrust of media is idiotic. The post is implying that Trump is using the \"fake news\" thing to shut down freedom of the press. What kind of point are you trying to make?",
"When nazi Trump supporters are injuring and killing people in the streets as they did in Charlottesville [while his nazi supporters literally use the German word Lugenpresse to talk about the media at his rallies](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/us-election-donald-trump-supporters-nazi-term-lugenpresse-gettysburg-rally-republican-party-a7376176.html) then it isn't even hyperbolic.\n\nNazism and other forms of white supremacy are growing in the US, That is a fact, and half the population wants to ignore or deny it for political expediency. I'm sure that will turn out well.\n",
"Why are the mods of this sub putting up with the blatant brigading of this sub? It's being spammed with this garbage.",
"They was both right though ",
"Also they have to be anti-Trump, obviously.",
"Uhhh.\n\n\nWere you around the last 9 years? Pretty sure Obama was called Hitler, and the anti-christ. \n\nNot saying either 'side' was right or wrong in their comparison, just that your statement is inherently biased.",
"I don’t think it’s so much of T = H, but similar patterns of behavior and tactics that draw a parallel. ",
"Ok I need to ask. Who keeps upvoting these? I mean I hate the guy's guts and want him impeached, but even I think this is absurd. This isn't even a witty sign. It's a comparison of Trump and Literally Hitler; I've seen better arguments for similarities between the two that actually provide context. That aside, this is r/pics; it should feature visually interesting images about all sorts of subjects (including the state of US politics). But this is all I see from this sub. I mean if you want to post jabs at the guy or discuss the harm he's doing to America, try r/politics or r/worldnews. Don't upvote this shit. It's just not worth anyone's attention.",
"> I used to think atheism was the absolute believe that there is no god.\n> \n> To me that's just as stupid as absolute belief that there is a god.\n\nI think you need to look up a concept called the \"burden of proof\".\n\n",
"Nobody is saying that Trump = Hitler. Can you explain how this comparison is not accurate?",
"No, sorry, you're not allowed to make comparisons until he literally makes death camps and starts WW3 and shoots himself in the head. You aren't allowed to draw references to any of the lead up. Even Hitler wasn't Hitler until 1944. Duh.",
"You could have written this and not sounded condescending. I doubt that people choose to not write the \"e\" due to laziness, and more because they don't know about it. \n\n",
"Right wing, authoritative, nationalistic, and charismatic to their base. Hitler was way worse but it's not hard to draw parallels between to right wing politicians. ",
"When nazi Trump supporters are injuring and killing people in the streets as they did in Charlottesville [while his nazi supporters literally use the German word Lugenpresse to talk about the media at his rallies](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/us-election-donald-trump-supporters-nazi-term-lugenpresse-gettysburg-rally-republican-party-a7376176.html) then it isn't even hyperbolic.\n\nNazism and other forms of white supremacy are growing in the US, That is a fact, and half the population wants to ignore or deny it for political expediency. I'm sure that will turn out well.\n",
"He doesn't even know the relationship between the US and Israel?\n\nHuh? That makes him Hitler? ",
"Makes sense, the demographics who are on reddit are some of the most liberal in society.",
"But they shouldn't be \"your\" countries if you live in America. America was founded on the idea that immigration is fine but if you're going to immigrate, you're loyal to America first and that is your country now. I'm German/English by ethnicity but I only call myself American\n\nAlso not to be callous, but there are consequences to illegal immigration. If you choose not to immigrate legally, then one of the consequences is that you face the threat of being uprooted from the life you set up here, regardless of how long you've been here. You don't get to selectively ignore laws of a country because they aren't convenient for you.",
"*11 million, 6M were Jews. Even worse",
"I'm not really the patriotic type, but I have to say, it's nice to hear some positive things about our country amidst all the (justified) negativity lately. Thanks for still having some faith in the majority of us.",
"Rules? Enforcement? Sounds like Nazi Germany to me!\n",
"What has he done that is labeled \"Corrupt\" ? ",
"It's not completely a hoax. Fox did argue in court they had the right to knowingly lie to their viewers. But no they didn't argue they're just entertainment.",
"I do too, and it's been all over reddit for the past year too. Trump will start WWIII, racist/sexist/xenophobic/homophobic and literally Hitler and if you support Trump then you by extension support WWIII, racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, and are also literally Hitler. \n\nBesides all that, \"Trump is Hitler\" one of the top pics on /r/pics? I mean regardless of message it's a picture of a fucking sign. Is that the standard for this sub now, that it simply be a jpg? I'm unsubscribing, fuck having to do the mod's job for them. ",
"Ok, I'll take my German history class over your random \"nuh uh\".\n\nThanks.\n\nSure there were underlying issues, but on the whole Germany was bumping around 1925-1940.",
"Maybe on the internet but I would have gotten subtracted points if I did that on a test over there.",
"Yet. Hitler did not do those thing his first year in office....",
"When nazi Trump supporters are injuring and killing people in the streets as they did in Charlottesville [while his nazi supporters literally use the German word Lugenpresse to talk about the media at his rallies](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/us-election-donald-trump-supporters-nazi-term-lugenpresse-gettysburg-rally-republican-party-a7376176.html) then it isn't even hyperbolic.\n\nNazism and other forms of white supremacy are growing in the US, That is a fact, and half the population wants to ignore or deny it for political expediency. I'm sure that will turn out well.",
"You know Hitler used the phrase \"sick and tired\"...just sayin...",
"I guess you make make the analogy to what we consider “cults” in society. Where people get too deep into certain religious beliefs. ",
"Because fuck white people",
"It's your feelings, along with Trump's and the GOP's, being hurt by us just existing here and trying to live our lives. Otherwise, it wouldn't be such a problem.",
"Isn't that what started WW1?",
"When you think of Trump you’re reminded of Hitler? Or are you just seeing everyone make baseless connections between Hitler and Trump. I hate Trump just as much as the next (non-T_D) user, but comparing him to Hitler is just so extreme that, as previously stated, it weakens any argument against him.",
"This stupid BS again, really guys? Go back a few months before the election, almost every single left wing news source was trying to smear Trump with tenuous evidence at best. Just like the recent \"shithole\" fiasco, an unconfirmed source (John Doe doesn't really need to exist) and this \"He's racist for wanting to enforce laws already in place and put our country first.\" Has been insane from day one. It's one of the most childish reaction to any elected official in history. ",
"I can’t believe all the concentration camps he started. ",
"Facebook started then lobby media blamed trump presidency on fake news and then everyone started using it",
"How? Is it okay to be that stuff now?",
"When nazi Trump supporters are injuring and killing people in the streets as they did in Charlottesville [while his nazi supporters literally use the German word Lugenpresse to talk about the media at his rallies](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/us-election-donald-trump-supporters-nazi-term-lugenpresse-gettysburg-rally-republican-party-a7376176.html) then it isn't even hyperbolic.\n\nNazism and other forms of white supremacy are growing in the US, That is a fact, and half the population wants to ignore or deny it for political expediency. I'm sure that will turn out well.\n",
"For me it was the whole \"Fuck all religion because it does nothing but cause war and death and bigotry\" attitude that made me examine my own views. There's this idea (made popular by Family Guy and several \"graphs\") that \"without the Christian dark ages we'd be exploring the galaxy by now\", to me that idea is not only misinformed, but downright racist. Christianity essentially \"took over\" in Western Europe because it was the only institution from the Roman Empire that survived the collapse (in the west) of said empire. Progress was still being made... EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE FUCKING WORLD (including the Christian Byzantine Empire), but NO since the haven of western European white people was dealing with political instability and couldn't contribute to science at that time, it just wasn't getting done... yeah ok.\n\nReligion takes over when secular governments collapse (usually due to their own corruption or ineffectiveness), and science doesn't get done (right there and then) because survival takes priority (since secular authority provides security).\n\nNationalism has caused more death and destruction than religion ever did, don't lie to yourselves.\n\nI don't believe that there is a god, but I really don't need to look down on people who do to justify that belief.",
"Trump wants lesser government control but Hitler wanted the opposite. I do not like Trump. Your comparison is weak. ",
">arguably\n\nFinally, Stalin had a sliver of hope at the recognition he deserves",
"CNN lied about Koi fish. ",
"I believe the suggestion is that the president should not assault the news, due to the high potential for misuse of power if the freedom of the press were ever removed. But a healthy skepticism, making sure sources are reliable, checking multiple sources, not sticking to biased sources, is definitely good, but he doesn't word it that way, he simply says that anyone who makes him look bad is fake and should no longer be allowed to report. Plus, again due to the potential for misuse of power if the press were discredited or limited, this suggestion about being cautious with news sources probably shouldn't come from the president. No he's not literally Hitler, but it does set the stage for future politicians to further weaken the press and opposition to them, which could result in a really bad leader if we're not careful and simply trust the word of the state.",
"Ahh yes, let's call them illegal aliens, let's not. Make it seem less horrible by calling them undocumented immigrants. These are not immigrants, these people are alien criminals who broke the law. ",
"Oh nooo for like 48 hours you have to FILTER out pics! Because over a million people had protests across the United States, where reddit is based! \n\n\nMost if us just dont upvote them. Since its a photo on a site.\n\n\nAlso it wasnt one little march. But tell yourself whatever. ",
"TIL Nazis only killed Jews",
"☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜) ",
"From the get go, conservatives usually gain power during war (leading up to and during) while liberals get power during the down time. I.E. during the Vietnam War, liberals were labeled as hippies but after it, were the main supporting force for civil rights. It’s like during the times when foreign issues rise up, people get all patriotic which somehow swings to the rights favor; but once things calm down it swings to the left. Right now, foreign issues were dying down at the end of Bush’s Presidency which lead way for Obama. Isis rose up and then Trumps argument points focused almost solely on foreign policy while mentioning nonsense economic ideologies. The liberals during the time wasn’t looking too organized and looked/sounded like hippies of the past who wanted peace and yet didn’t really offer any decent solution while just blaming white men for everything (look at feminism today). It’s basically a cycle. Neither one is a better choice.",
"To the last digit! ",
"> wasn't 'fake news' a term invented by the news media itself in a short lived moral panic over shittily sourced articles and the like from places like Infowars being given credibility and influencing the election?\n\nYes, that's correct and it adds a new layer of irony to the Hitler comparison.\n\nA few mainstream journalists warned about the dangers of labelling as a way to discard certain news sources, but they were ignored.",
"True. Hitler was motivated by hate, and a desire to rid the world of what he considered was it's greatest problem (he was wrong, that's why he's Hitler lol). Trump is motivated by narcissism and greed, and is willing to say whatever is necessary to make himself look good to the people who's opinion matters to him.\n\nAlmost makes Trump seem worse, but at least his motivations probably won't drive him to start gassing people. Probably?",
"No? You don't get to blame Trump just because you want him to be literally Hitler and leader of the Nazi party.",
"It's from infowars not foxnews. \n\nAlex Jones' ex-wife tried to use his show/website as evidence of mental instability. He testified that it was all just a work of fiction.\n\nhttp://time.com/4743025/alex-jones-infowars-divorce-donald-trump/",
"Undermine the democratic process by wiretapping a political opponent during their campaign? \n\nUndermine like buying a fake dossier from a Russian agency to start an FBI investigation on your political opponent?\n\nUndermining like Bitching and crying when you lose fair and square and constantly trying to get the winner impeached?\n\nUndermining like shutting down the government over people who aren't you're citizens and worse have broken your laws?\n\nUndermining like making sure over 80% of the press coverage is negative which is unprecedented and not an accurate portrayal of reality?\n\nI don't actually like defending trump because he does say dumb shit but Jesus Christ the people who hate him are so much worse than he is and they can't even take a step beck to see it. ",
"Okay, you're accusing Trump of declaring *everything* that disagrees with him fake news, which I don't believe you'll be able to prove.\n",
"What's wrong with the comparison? Trump's most used words and entire campaign revolved around \"fake news,\" making real news appear fake and fake news appear real to confuse the below average intelligence masses. Hitler did the same thing. Granted, Trump is *not* anything like Hitler, but his fake news thing sure is.",
"The Trumpists brigade always flock to the bottom of the comment section to make their points cause it's the only place they feel comfortable knowing they can \"reeee\" with their other no wit buddies.\n\nAt the bottom of the swamp. Where their ideas originally spawned from.\n\nTake your downvotes as a measure of pride to have triggered so many snowflakes who are currently raging at their computer screens in their mother's basements.",
"Wtf lol. This is such an ironic comment on a thread about fake news rofl",
"Oh jeez even when presented with evidence nothing convinces you jerks of anything. How about instead of dismissing the prove you research and try to prove that it is false or wrong? Maybe, just maybe, you’ll prove yourself wrong.",
"no.. he was a charismatic fuckhead to be sure. Most people only knows his enrage voice calling for total war but there are a few recordings of his normal voice... it's soothing and unreal.",
"Did I post the sign of Hitler? Why are you asking me? ",
"Yeah, most of the time they're comparing something (like this tactic) to seeing Hitler used. It's definitely bad things, but it's not genocide and world war bad.",
"well, you will find that quite alot of German (me included) think this comparison fit perfectly as long as you only loot at the time period of Hitler getting into power. After that, Hitler was much more capable to actually push through with the ideas he had and actually had a plan to overthrow the nation, while Trump thought a won election would be enough to put him into a dictatorship-like position.\n\nBut from the propaganda used to get into office, these two are uncomfortably similar.",
"Then give equal attention to white supremacist groups.",
"Think you’re the one that needs to check your facts ",
"The left can't cause a shutdown when the right has control of all 3 branches. The shutdown happened because republicans didn't get enough votes from their own party",
"Trump got a higher percent of the Hispanic vote than Romney did in 2016 according to CNN exit polls.\n\nDo you think Hispanics are so stupid as to vote against their obvious self interest?",
"No. You just made that up. The original fake news was Russian news stations filming staged civil unrest in the Ukraine in 2014/15 and Ukraine citizens spread the term on social media.",
"Irony, what if Trump is true about the press?\n\nWhat if the likes of CNN have been lying or reporting out of context information? I.E \"Fake News\"\n\nWith all the other media out there, along with smart phones, a lot of information can be proven false, sometimes complete lies\n\n\nWhat if the MSM is lying? the question then comes down to this\n\nWhen did they start telling lies? What if everything we've been told for many years have been pure lies?\n\n\n\n\nDo you know how wide the flood gates will open?",
"Upvoted based solely on this tempter tantrum.",
"You seriously don’t see an issue with the President of the US claiming that any news that is not in his favor is fake? \n\nSeriously, he called for the Senate Intelligence Committee to investigate media companies that report on him unfavorably. \n\nComing from a man who seems to be a textbook fragile narcissist yes, this definitely looks like how government censorship of the progress could begin. \n\nAnd for what it’s worth, I think anyone comparing Trump to Hitler is an idiot. ",
"People are actually downvoting you lmao",
"[Use this link](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23pics) and type in all caps in the message field \"JESUS FUCK PLEASE STOP WITH THE POLITCAL POSTS!\"",
"Nope, you’re right. T_D is just desperate to be a victim.",
"So what rights have been taken away? ",
"Yeah but the difference is the US has an actual issue with bias news organizations.",
"It's crazy, honestly I would be more concerned if everyone loved Trump - that would be indicative of a serious problem. See North Korea as a reference; America is great because you're allowed to protest, you're allowed to voice your opposition to the administration - a government for the people by the people. This is the greatest god damn country on earth. \n \nI hate the kneeling football players, I have those who desecrate the American flag, but I acknowledge their right to do it.",
"Just please stop. You're just being annoying. You're not angering anyone, you're just being annoying and difficult to talk to.",
"Oh shit, it wasn't on the news?! I forgot that twitter and facebook are meaningless political apparatus that candidates don't, literally, spend millions of dollars on advertising...\n\n>That didn't happen.\n\n>And if it did, it wasn't that bad.\n\n>And if it was, that's not a big deal.\n\n>And if it is, that's not my fault.\n\n>And if it was, I didn't mean it.\n\n>And if I did...\n\n>You deserved it.\n\nSkipping right to the end - I like it!!!\n",
"to me it sounds a lot like OU (i'm italian)",
"If I tell someone that black people are inferior but have a black friend does that mean I'm not racist? You realize LINCOLN was a racist right? Despite freeing the slaves he still felt they were below white people.\n\nDonald Trump has had sooo many sexual assault allegations it's a fucking joke and even if you wanna claim their false then, whatever.\n\nBut, you can't ignore him LITERALLY admitting to assaulting someone on camera. \n\n>I moved on her like a bitch. **When you're a star, they let you do it.** Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.\n\n",
"Here I am wondering if you missed all the posters comparing Obama to Hitler. ",
"You *do* know that the term isn't a nazi invention, right?\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lying_press\n\nCatholics, nazis, socialists, left, right, it's been rather popular over the years. Crediting it to Hitler is twisting the truth for political gain, which is kinda ironic.",
"It has to start somewhere.\n\nIf you were as familiar with history as your comment seems to indicate you are, you'd know that the transition into Fascism was actually rather gradual. It wasn't suddenly just everyone in concentration camps and world war, it was preaching hatred and populist rhetoric, blaming others for your problems while incrementally taking away the civic liberties of those you wish to oppress. \n\nThis little experiment the Americans are having with Trump isn't one I'd like to see continue, for the very reason that Trump and his supporters are similar to Hitler in many ways. They've just replaced Jews with Muslims, Mexicans, and women who would like the freedom of choice over their own bodies",
"(...from every comment here)\n\nDidn’t know i needed a bibliography. Search engines exist and are useful if you’re willing to question yourself ",
"Okay then lay out some of these dire circumstances instead of simply asserting that they are definitely there. \n\nI hope you're not about to say something like 'the wage gap' or '1 in 5 college women will be raped' because both of those are objectively wrong and out of context.\n\n>We're not being edgy\n\nNobody said you're trying to be edgy -- just relevant and heroic.\n\nYou come off as the opposite of that though.\n\nEdit: I actually would bet money I've done more 'for civil rights' than you have. I spent months of my life in the 9th ward after hurricane Katrina -- rebuilding houses, building a free clinic, even getting arrested trying to re-open a public housing unit. I was a Bernie delegate, and I've worked with local immigrants to get zoning laws changed in Seattle so that they can open up the business they dreamed of. \n\nTell me again how I'm complacent, then let me know what you've done that's so much better. I'll wait. Thanks. \n\nEdit 2: Please notice that 'Oprahs_snatch' didn't actually have any real ground to stand on here. They purport that civil rights movement isn't over because of the many problems afflicting them. Yet they can't be bothered to tell people about them. Do y'all see the contradiction here? If you asked Rosa Parks or MLK what was wrong, they would TELL YOU.",
"Lmfao",
"Great argument. ",
"It's a statement of fact. Whether people find it insulting is kind of beside the point.",
"You're right, I really had to go out of my way to avoid clicking on the post with a \"US Politics\" tag, going to the comments section, clicking \"reply\", typing in a box, and clicking \"submit\". Hardest thing I've done all day, really.",
"But you are highly disrespecting the people who voted for him. He's not a fucking Nazi because you don't agree with him Jesus Christ.",
"You guys don’t know 1933 Hitler then either. Did you ever read about his rise to Chancellor? \n\n\nIf Trump was Hitler, we would all know it by now. Isn’t there literally an anti-Trump protest going on RIGHT now? Do you know what 1933 Hitler would have done with them?",
"I feel pretty confident \n\nhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/01/02/president-trump-has-made-1949-false-or-misleading-claims-over-347-days/?utm_term=.3b8f26af2b2e\n\nAnd if we we’re talking about deliberate lies, not just poor reporting, I don’t think they’d be able to come up with more than one or two examples from major sources (if any). ",
"Comparing Donald Trump to Hitler is like comparing Mc Donald’s to a Michelin Star restaurant. Not on the same playing field.",
"Nothing could more thoroughly convince me that it isn't based on people using terms like \"alt left.\"",
"I’m sure someone on reddit will be able to back me up. I have more important things to do than argue with someone who has different views than mine.",
"Just because it's worse somewhere else it doesn't mean you can't ask for it to be better where you are. You can't make your kids eat cabbage every day and expect them to be happy about it by telling them kids are starving elsewhere. ",
"I think the perception of Hitler is overblown myself. All this sign is pointing out is that a brutal dictator cast doubt onto the media in order to avoid criticism. If you look at the sign this way, it's more about being wary of a person that picks and chooses \"real news\" because it can lead to unhealthy consolidation of power. Hitler was bad, but all dictators are bad.",
"agnosticism is a lack of belief. coming from the greek for 'without knowledge'. atheism is a belief in no deities, not a lack of belief. ",
"I think you may be misinterpreting the point they are trying to make. The point isn't Trump is Hitler or equal to Hitler. The point they are trying to make is the danger of the ways both used to gain their support.",
"You mean the whole being a politician part?",
"What about it?",
"\"Fake News\" was a phrase coined by a liberal professor in order to explain away why Hillary Clinton lost.",
"",
"100% real. Googlefu it my man!",
"Oh, another comparison that Trump is \"literally Hitler\". Instead consider the following: Media is used as propaganda by both sides. Of course certain stories by certain biased news organisations will be fake. ",
"This isn’t actually comparing Trump to Hitler, is it? If it is, that is the one if the most ignorant things I have seen in a while",
"I think Erdogan is way ahead",
"No, many of the main subs in general are very echo chamber-y to varying degree. rpolitics being the extreme. Probably also results from the subs reddit is displaying as their main subs. ",
"I instantly googled this to check if it's a real thing. Sadly it is.",
"Riiiiiight. This is like how all the fucking idiots that got outraged about the H&M advert didn’t stop and wonder if THEY were the racists for correlating monkeys and black people. I would ask for you to show me an example of something racist Trump said or did (you can’t because he won the fucking NAACP lifetime achievement award for helping black people) but you will probably just use the typical SJW argument of “the definition of racism has changed, EVERYTHING is racist now!”",
"> The point is to call him out before he becomes Hitler.\n\nThis. Nobody thought Hitler was as bad as Hitler before he actually became **the** Hitler. It does not hurt to point that out.\n\n And there are parallels between Trump and Hitler. Although I believe Trump is too stupid, it's the hard-right GOP pulling the strings there.\n\nAnd probably Putin.",
"So that’s where he got it from",
"Also the blitz and starting the entire war, ya, so there's that as well.",
":=/",
"She is here legally. Trump is rescinding the order that allows her to be here legally, which may get her kicked out. But he nor you or the rest of his base give a shit about other people, so that's where she stands.",
"Undershot of a roider's genitalia? ",
"Not even close. It's disrespectful to even begin to compare a man who was responsible for the deaths of 11 million people to a man with the intelligence and temperament of a 5 year old.",
"God i thought pics was bad a few years ago when it became 50% facebook posts.\n\nPlease take this off default subs. /r/pics is gone.",
"He's reappropriated it. This admin uses doublespeak. Nazi level? No, but it is still concerning. ",
"Agreed, though I think the scary part is that we have to acknowledge how easy it was for Trump to slide into office. In trying to be optimistic about this, we should learn from this and invest more time in inclusion/teaching the general/local public. Frankly, it can be argued that electing Trump was the best thing for us because it opens up otherwise “business as usual” clusterfucks for the general population to see and draw their own conclusions. Also, it forced oppositional folks in office to look at each other and say, “woah, guys, we need to work together to save this shit.” I could be wrong, but it seems like this is a great prompt for the general population and elected officials to come together in a more productive/amicable way than ever before. \n\nYes, it motivated nationalists/racists/culturist, but I’d like to believe the rest of us far outweigh them and they’re exposing themselves so they’re more easily identified and empowered the rest of us to become more active to oppose their ignorance. \n\nTD:DR: there are more educated, nice, people in our country and this has given us an extraordinary opportunity to come together and make positive change happen, blocking ignorance on a national and local level. ",
"“And the like”....... you mean Reddit",
"So, you think the German press critical of Hitler in the 1930's were lying?",
"I mean Hitler's rise to power was largely due in part to the failure of the Weimar republic. The US couldn't let someone like Hitler take power",
"Your Jewish friends sound like unstable children.",
"So what are you going to vote in the future?",
"???? The war caused the death of over 50M civilians alone",
"Only because it has to be said so fucking much, which is the unfortunate state.",
"I’m gonna go ahead and say the outlandishly superficial comparison this meme is drawing here is less than apt. ",
"The Americentrism is strong with this one.",
">You'd be foolish to believe Trump wouldn't love being this generations Hitler. \n\nYes, the people who believe that are the foolish ones....",
"Does being \"a libertarian who didn't vote for trump\" make you an authority on literally anything? No. ",
"lol k",
"I remember looking into Breitbart for the first time after the vegas shootings and the first thing I saw was something about how it might have been a democrat conspiracy. It's anecdotal but as far as I'm concerned I'd double check if they said the sky was blue.",
"Thank you! This attitude surely won't backfire on you once the paradigm shifts. Remember, this toxic shit you're spewing is the prevailing culture today. Not tomorrow, but for today. Tomorrow will be a new day.",
"The mainstream media is the militarized wing of the Democrat Party. They are all-in on the Democrat Party, and the mainstream media literally passes along lies and misinformation. It’s not just that they’re biased anymore. They are active members who are pushing the leftist and Democrat Party agenda.\n\nAs such, the American people who only read the New York Times and Washington Post; watch CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, MSNBC; read the Los Angeles Times or any number of magazines — TIME, Newsweek? They only know what the mainstream media tells them, and from that these polls are created. And there’s one that ABC’s running a gew days back that vast majority of American people blame the Republicans if there is a shutdown.\n\nThere were pre-polls on the tax cut plan, and in those polls, 76%, — 76% of the American people — believe that the tax cuts were only gonna help corporations and would end up actually raising their taxes. It was a mind-boggling thing, until we turned on CBS, ABC, NBC and watched, and we found out that’s what they were being told. ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, New York Times, Washington Post were reporting that the Trump/Republican tax bill was going to raise taxes for over half of the American people.\n\nThe only people that would get a tax cut would be American corporations, and that money is never passed on to the American employee who works for the corporation or the customer. And I’m sitting here, I’m mind boggled by this. Common sense tells you that a tax cut means you keep more money, and yet the media had convinced 76%! If the poll was accurate, 76% of the American people thought they were not gonna get a tax cut and in fact thought they were gonna get a tax increase.\n\nNow, the truth is that everybody — 80%, maybe even 90% — of the American people are going to see much more take-home pay starting next month, and they already, many of them are getting wage increases and bonuses and expanded benefits. So the question we ask is: Will they realize the media lied to them or will they just think the media got it wrong or will it even register? Right now and for every previous government shutdown since 1995, the media has gone into great detail to explain why it’s the Republicans’ fault.\n\nAnd the reasons are the following: “The Republicans want your kids to starve. The Republicans don’t want the poor to be able to access government services because the Republicans hate government. The Republicans don’t care about immigrants or people of color because they vote for Democrats. And so, as far as the Republicans are concerned, if they suffer, no big deal.” This is what the media has reported about the Republican Party for as long as I’ve been alive. So coming up with strategies to push that back, the best chance that we’ve ever had now is Donald Trump. He’s the first Republican to ever significantly, consistently and with strength and vigor push back against it.",
"Nigga. His exact words were \"they let you\". Not \"Boy, do I love forcing myself against women who clearly don't want it.\"",
"Personally I would prefer people pointing out the similarities of the U.S. government and authoritarian regimes while it’s happening and have a debate on it than to stay silent until something happens and have consensus it became authoritarian in retrospect.",
"They certainly do. So back up your spurious claim or GTFO.",
"That the Germans look stupid and pedantic? I thought it had something to do with the black hand assassination of Franz Ferdinand",
"If the best argument for a certain type of content is \"There's a filter\"\n\n...then there's a pretty good chance that content is shite.\n\nThat's a horrible argument to stand on.",
"I don't think u/Seiglerfone meant it as in TD is some grand mastermind. I believe the intention was to note the similarities between their actions.",
"if you have Ü on your keyboard you use it if not you can use UE. If it's a handwritten test then of course you use Ü.",
"It's not hard to draw parallels between two right wing politicians. ",
"Too much meth. ",
"Now that, ladies and gentlemen of reddit.\n\nIs a shithole ran by the embodiment of Hitler. ",
"You are simply stating that we are in the minority and therefore must be even more protective of our homeland.",
"I don't think we will stop seeing people named donald.... adolf on the other hand...",
"/r/shitwehraboossay\n\nThe nuclear bombings are not even close to the same thing as the holocaust. I think deep down even you have to realize that",
"This is a contributing factor to her loss\n\n\n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WkNL_cfVyWU\n\n\nThis doesn’t help neither \n\n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=thNjxRMYOII",
">The post is implying that Trump is using the \"fake news\" thing to shut down freedom of the press.\n\nNope. That's all on you. The post is simply calling attention to the fact that Trump is using the same kind of rhetoric that Hitler used.",
"You’re either not a dude, or not a very manly dude. One of the two. That’s actually not nearly as bad as locker room talk.",
"no man I've used it. I wouldn't say it's a huge plugin if I haven't seen what it did. \n\nIt adds so much stuff to reddit I'd rather not have, it's another plugin I have to maintain. By the time I got through removing all the extra stuff with user CSS, I'll have basically done all that work just to filter ONE subs ONE tag, (and also have markdown previews which is actually really nice).",
"Seems like the definitions for different labels people put on eachother change constantly.. I feel like language is going to be the first thing the dies out ",
">if you don't have a Ü on your keyboard.",
"\"Omg literally Hitler\"",
"Hitler did lots of speeches, should we condemn speeches?",
"comparing a person to Hitler makes you automatically win every argument /s",
"On mobile so citing other comments is hard: \n\nMight be this:\nhttp://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politics/donald-trump-terrorists-families/index.html",
"I was just thinking about this exact thing. Hitler was the man that orchestrated the systematic killing of millions of people and Trump is a shitty president. I don't think comparing Trump to Hitler is fair at all. I think a better comparison would be a Nero Trump comparison in the sense that Nero sang as he watched Rome burn while Trump is golfing as America falls apart. ",
"This is a sad attempt, the other ones were better ",
"The point is that it’s *extremely* dangerous to create discord by discrediting the media. It’s the basis for the wild divides between republicans and democrats in the US and it was also the basis for the rise of fascism and dictatorships beyond Hitler. Hitler’s just the most well known.",
"Yes , that’s true. Ask it to be better for decent reasons . What reasons does this image represent? The president is a baddie because he said a few mean words?",
"LoL do you honestly believe that everyone on the right is racist? The typical left. They lose and blame racism. ",
"It wasn't a strawman. You were defending Trump by mitigating the significance of his racism and sexism and homophobia. Don't argue if you don't want to, god knows it won't change anything, but don't bitch out by pretending there's a fallacy and leaving with your nose in the air.",
"If all the Neo-Nazis in America support Trump then he's kinda their de facto political leader. Just sayin. ",
"Yes, because that was the intent. /s",
"None of those things happened because of Trump policies. We are still living in the Obama economy. Economic policy doesn't habe impacts like that in 13 months. It took most of Obamas presidency to correct the clusterfuck created by Clinton. Bush, the republicans and wall steet.\n\nHe will go down as a bad president becaise he is incompetent and clearly doesn't understand his job in any more detail than what's trending on twitter",
"Whenever leftist compare someone to Hitler, they prove they gave up on logic.",
"Most men on reddit are beta males who don't know what real men talk about. They use feminism and social justice in an attempt to get some puss, [when it fact, these types of women want Chad Thundercock](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/19/why-i-wont-date-another-male-feminist)",
"lack of belief is still belief\n\n\nbelief sounds weird...",
"Godwins law.",
"Because I live in America? Who would have ever saw that coming.",
"Stop fucking comparing them ",
"Conditions in the current day US are different than conditions in 1920's-1930's Germany. It would be stupid to require the exact same event arc to draw parallels about the man and his proclivities and ambitions.\n\nThe US can easily and quickly flip in to massive and violent social disruption and disorder, much more so that Germany could. We can't afford to let it get that far. Trump would love, love, love such an opportunity and has even said so during his campaign.",
"Well people seem legitimately stuck in the politics is sports mindset,\"yay red team! Whoa, he won, why can't you just let it go?\"\n\nI can't help but feel a desire to snap people out of it. Trump is a guy who constantly sabotages peace talks his own secretary of State is having to avoid nuclear war in order to have a dick measuring contest with North Korea. Acting like everything is fine would be, well, insanity.",
"You're just a lefty assigning labels :P",
"Deliberately being an idiot? ",
"Not feelings hurt, so much as laws broken. And rule of law is kind of big here.",
"Often using anonymous sources",
"Yeah, radicalization of really any ideal. It explains a lot of things such as Scientology, and how people who have given their life to that \"church\" often double down on their beliefs as opposed to admit everything they have ever known and dedicated their life to was a lie. And a really really big, obvious, and incredibly stupid lie at that.",
"Try not to generalize a whole political party based on a few specific individuals.",
"This troll is working overtime today fellas.\n\nWhats the conversion from rubles to dollars right now?\n\nIs your rent due or something?",
"Plus 8-11 million others dead others in camps. Remember that it wasn't just a tool to exterminate Jewish people, but also to kill a lot of Soviets, Poles, and political dissidents. (Actually more total count of the latter three than Jewish people, but it did kill like 70% of the Jewish population in the area)",
"You're insane",
"> America was founded on the idea that immigration is fine but if you're going to immigrate, you're loyal to America first and that is your country now.\n\nWhat the fuck? This is such a weird and creepy thing to say. ",
"here we go again : trump is hitler\n\nnext : justin trudeau is john f kennedy ",
"Yeah I was gonna mention him as anti christ, never heard hitler though ",
"Literally hortler",
"The idea of \"fake news\" is legitimate, even if the popularizer of the idea was acting in bad faith. What this post does is denigrate everyone who would use the term as being equally in bad faith.\n\nAnd despite that there *has* been a metric fuckload of fake news regarding Trump coming from the media, which is absolutely amazing given there this is no shortage of legitimate ammunition to use. Clicks take priority over actual journalism.",
"I don't know how people like you have never experienced hearing some jackass exaggerate in a similar fashion to Trump about what they did or do.\n\nDid you not have a kid at school that \"totally banged a bunch of chicks like every day,\" who you all knew was talking shit?\n\nSome people just don't grow out of this behaviour. But it's immaturity, not an admission of sexual assault. Jesus.",
"thats why I get 3+ different anti trump subs on my 'ALL' page constantly ",
"Is typing UE instead of Ü common? Gonna be honest, I don't recall seeing anyone do that.",
"The thing is, though, **Trump isn't wrong**, and it's just as deleterious to our political system to blindly believe the media. CNN doesn't outright fabricate bullshit like Breitbart and Fox, but they twist the truth and mislead the public for their own purposes. \n\nAnyone thinking \"Wow, this guy's an alt right nut!\" based on my username, here's Albert Einstein on the matter: \n\n>Private capital tends to become concentrated in few hands, partly because of competition among the capitalists, and partly because technological development and the increasing division of labor encourage the formation of larger units of production at the expense of smaller ones. The result of these developments is an oligarchy of private capital the enormous power of which cannot be effectively checked even by a democratically organized political society. This is true since the members of legislative bodies are selected by political parties, largely financed or otherwise influenced by private capitalists who, for all practical purposes, separate the electorate from the legislature. The consequence is that the representatives of the people do not in fact sufficiently protect the interests of the underprivileged sections of the population. Moreover, under existing conditions, private capitalists inevitably control, directly or indirectly, the main sources of information (press, radio, education). It is thus extremely difficult, and indeed in most cases quite impossible, for the individual citizen to come to objective conclusions and to make intelligent use of his political rights.\n\n>- Albert Einstein, [*Why Socialism?*](https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/)\n\nI hate defending Trump in any context but liberals really need to wise up and understand that Establishment vs Trump is merely one arm of the oligarchy playing against the other. Just as Trumpists need to understand that just because the media lies, that doesn't mean Trump is telling the truth or on anyone's side but his own. Just because Trump lies constantly, that doesn't mean the media aligned against him is truthful. ",
"I remember a time when we all agreed that 90 % of news we got was total bullshit. Now we compare Trump to Adolf fucking Hitler because he says \"fake news\" ",
"As someone who voted for Trump, all posts like this do are reinforce our resolve. I've been saying for years now that if people were reasonable I may not have even voted for him. It's my nature to play devil's advocate, when I found myself defending Trump all the time I started to realize that maybe I supported him. If the democrats and the left didn't give so many bad arguments I wouldn't have played devil's advocate so much. \n\nI realize the negatives to having Trump as president, but when I see posts like this and people always hating on Trump supporters I am discouraged from having a reasonable discussion with them or anyone else about Trump. They have written me off before even knowing me.",
"Yeah that's why the black community is doing better now than they did under 8 years of Obama ",
"No, life is binary and there is no subtlety. He's either Hitler or he isn't and there's no in between. ",
"You drew that point from thin air so I think I’m done here, unless you actually want to structure an argument from the things that I say not the things you infer.",
"You said it, man.",
"For saying that the press in this country is hot garbage? They are. They’ve literally gone insane over the course of his candidacy and presidency. Outlets that used to be even handed are now getting “outraged” about how he feeds coi fish or how many fucking ice cream scoops he gets. They jump on every opportunity to shit on him going so far as prattling on incessantly about his “mental health” because they don’t like him only to find out he’s perfectly fine and they’re just a bunch of dumbasses ",
"Different crowds. If Trump had yo give speeches to a methed out populous while also indulging in it himself, Trump's speeches would also be more grandiose.\n\nBut because Trump is giving speeches to hundreds of millions who have gone through the modern public education system, short soundbites are best.",
"Violence is on both sides, to deny this fact is truly delusional .",
"I bet you have another one coming about the most famous victims of World War 2.",
"Yeah, that why most people around here dislike infowars and Fox News.",
"Isn't that the goal in life? To feel better than others. There's just so many fun ways to do it!!",
"US deduced",
"Ever since the left accused Mitt Romney of being Hitler in 2012 I knew they were full of shit.",
"Yeah, not like effects of radiation poisoning from the ruclear bombs are still around today. Or that the Holocaust was never actually proven to be 6 million Jews. ",
"Yeah when guys talk about sexually assaulting women I don’t generally like it. If you consider that manly, you are fucked up. \n\nAnd no, this is not usually what locker room talk sounds like. That’s complete bullshit. ",
"Undermining the Democratic process? Nothing he's done is any different from the last dozen presidents",
"Wasn't it Hillary and the left wing media who started coining the phrase \"fake news\"? \n\nI guess liberals are also Hitler since they constantly slam Fox News and other conservative outlets as \"liars\" and \"fake\". ",
"This sub has gone to shit. I take it the mods would rather push an agenda than focus on good content like they used to.",
"That's what I thought, unable to reconcile your views with reality in an easy and efficient manner? Maybe it's time to reconsider.",
"I love how you can call them a Trump supporter then they're automatically wrong. Ironically your argument is litterally \"Im not wrong cause reasons.\" \nThere were tons of trump supporters posting pro trump, and there were plenty of \"liberals\" posting anti trump memes. Thats not ehat is being discussed here. \"Legitimate\" news sources definitely had a dog in the fight, and they made that known with coverage. Unfortunately(not really) she didnt win. If you think there wasn't an evident bias, then you're willfully ignorant. \n\nThe divicive tactics currently being used are also evidence of bias. \"News\" has not tried harder to divide a population. Everyday its some other article casting blame on white people, males, feminists, communist. A divided populous is easy to subject to your whim..",
"Hey you're right! The term yellow press was coined in the mid-1890s to characterize the sensational journalism that used some yellow ink in the circulation war between Joseph Pulitzer's New York World and William Randolph Hearst's New York Journal. Way before Hitler.",
"Even Breitbart stories generally have enough of a kernel of truth to be a notch above the real bullshit like “POPE ENDORSES TRUMP” that your grandmother falls for and shares on Facebook.\n\n Breitbart distortion is more like the time they declared that a mass of illegal migration in Europe had led to skyrocketing crime rates, but looking at the data, the only “crime” that had skyrocketed was… illegal migration. Which isn’t really what they were implying. They just proved that an increase in X is correlated with an increase in X.",
"We’re totally on our way to shoving Jews and Mexicans into ovens.\n\n\n\nSeriously you people are retarded ",
"I'm not making the connection, what do you mean?",
"That's not what that term means. Not everything anti-Trump has that connotation.",
"There shouldn't be news sites that lean any direction politically anyway...",
"Can’t fix stupid ",
"This may be my only country legally, but that doesn't mean I have to sever all emotional ties to where my immediate family came from and where I still have extended family today.",
"I mean, in the whole time your mom has been in America, couldnt she have applied for citizenship and used her child (you) as an eligibility factor? ",
"Because the P in GOP stands for projection.",
"Maybe practice what you preach?",
"Typical, lol\n\n\"HOW DARE YOU QUESTION MY SPURIOUS SMUG REMARKS DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH SHEEPLE\"",
"Do you mean the people that voted for a guy that said he could literally shoot someone in Time Square and win or the people that voted for him after he said he could literally grab women by the vagina? \n\nThis is a rabbit hole and a circle jerk on r/pics. ",
"Violence was on both sides during the Allied invasion of Normandy too.",
"Facebook started with their announcement to go after fake news big time, then lobby media blamed trump on fake news as a excuse and everyone started as far as I observed",
"Homophobia: https://i.imgur.com/md3CWl5.jpg",
"Their keyboard is English only",
"HELL HORTLER ",
"Neo Nazis always support the conservative candidate, its the closest thing they have to vote for their ideals. \n\nThat doesn't mean the conservatives are supporting neo nazis or their ideals.",
"Savage.",
"Yeah how dare those illegal immigrant babies not know the consequences of their illegal immigration! ",
"It's not hard to draw parallels between two different people either. What's your point ",
"I know a guy who unironically uses this word to refer to CNN",
"He's doing similar propaganda tactics that Hitler *also* used; doesn't make him hitler, however it doesn't make him a good person either.",
"Da hat der Bratim M. Recht.",
"cause r/p~~olit~~ics",
">What's surprising is that there are a lot of similarities between the two of them in term of character\n\nI find it highly unlikely that you've studied Hitler and Trump's character enough to make this type of analysis. It's such a lazy comparison.\n\nThere are clearly a lot of things to criticize about Trump. But making wild comparisons to Hitler, Stalin, etc. only gives conservatives more talking points about liberals being highly emotional and irrational.",
"Funny how Obama would crack jokes about the legitimacy of Fox news and people laughed thinking that was the greatest thing ever. Then Trump does it and he's compared to hitler.",
"Trump is making a lot of changes that are quite similar to things Hitler did early on. ",
"Now I can't unsee that. Thanks.",
"considering things like MK Ultra and the undercover sterilization of black women in the US, I have the feeling that if the germans hadn't done their holocaust, the US might've beenan Adolf Hitler away from doing something similar.\n\nI wish the western population hadn't so readily forgotten this shit, with the current rise of hard right nationalism and xenophobia",
"People who say shit like what you're saying have a serious misunderstanding of how things escalate.\n\nHitler didn't suddenly materialize into a terrible monster with unlimited power over Germany.",
"So why choose to separate from family in the 1st place? ",
"Don’t know why you must take a partisan stand on the issue. Some people just can’t see stuff without partisanship (you) ",
"Americans are addicted to outrage. ",
"Having complete power over your people? Having the right to do literally whatever you want and have no one in your vicinity question it. Attacking anyone who goes against him. Racist af. Yeah, I'm foolish for believing what's right in front of me",
"> Trump can't become Hitler because there's about 1000 checks that prevent this from happening in the government\n\nYes, and protests where people hold up signs pointing out how something Trump does is similar to something Hitler did is one of them. As is the free press, which is quite possibly why Trump is so intent of attacking it. The Supreme Court is another one, but he's already got one of his own people on the bench through underhanded means, and another slot will probably be open before 2020. Just because we have \"1000 checks\" on executive power doesn't it's *impossible* for a Hitler to happen here. It means they'd have to work harder to get over, under, or through all those checks, but it doesn't mean they won't [try](https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/951147190185013248). I'm sure it would be a lot more difficult than in 1930's Germany, but the best way to make it easier is to not resist the efforts to weaken those checks by someone who gives every appearance of wanting to be a [fascist tyrant](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljz8y2qX1f4). \n\n> quit fearmongering.\n\nQuit acting like there's nothing to be afraid of.",
"The guy could kill someone and no one would even care at this point because most would think it's just more bs.",
"bet",
"Oh look, its the half-hourly circlejerk!\n\nGeez you clowns must get dehydrated.\n\nShould go get some Gatorade or something before the next one ;)",
"He literally talked about grabbing women without consent and that they let him because of his power. That is sexual assault. \n\nEdit: Guys, I’m being serious here. If you’re down voting that’s really scary. Please don’t grab women without asking them first. And if you are in a position of power over them, you must be even more careful. Being famous and powerful does not make it okay. A woman may not say anything because she is scared of your power, that doesn’t mean she consented to it. ",
"No, because having 'inherent biases' doesn't necessarily make you a full blown racist. I do the same thing, I have biases, I'll make unconscious assumption. Does that make a racist? No, because I'll catch myself making those judgements and I stop and remind myself that their a PERSON, not a stereotype.\n\nTrying to claim 'everyone's racist' just makes it sound like you're saying Trump's actions are just what everyone is thinking deep down, which I disagree with.",
">it's that he seems like he wishes he could operate like one.\n\nSo basically like every President we've had for decades?",
"I mean watch five minutes of CNN and it’s quickly apparent why people don’t like it. “Trump drank water” “Trump had two scoops of ice cream” just read some of their stories. Then compare it to the lack of criticism toward Obama and others. Fox isn’t perfect but at least they usually bring on some liberals who are coherent. Note I said usually and yes obviously Fox is also biased. Also, I’d argue between news outlets and colleges/academia the hardcore leftists are the ones truly brainwashed.",
"So trumps is being called butler... shocker...",
"There is a unsubscribe button to your immediate right...",
"And Hitler was a vegan so why not compare PETA to nazis?\n\nBecause that would be fucking stupid. \nStop comparing Trump to Hitler because he is 100% not as bad as fucking Hitler",
"Criticizing the press is different than criticizing the right to free press ",
"Justin Trudeau told El Salvadorans not to bother even thinking about coming to Canada if the US wouldn't take them.\n\nHe a White Nationalist too?",
"I hate politics because of the majority of people who are politically active are hypocritical. You're whole paragraph basically sums it up.",
"What? Corralling Jewish people in concentration camps isn’t the same as telling illegal immigrants to go back home? /s",
"Nah, psssht, always just stupid and pedantic, always at fault /s",
"You really took that bait bud, leave some for the other fishes",
"Nationalist =\\= racist I think trumps image includes anyone who is a proud American regardless of skin color ",
"The 1933 Hitler wasn't the one killing millions of people in a genocidal campaign to take over Europe. People think of 1942 Hitler when they think of Hitler. ",
"Think it's time for you to go outside and get some fresh air.",
"My point exactly. ",
"Political group not population.\n\nAnd Trump supporters are not a few specific individuals.",
"Unless you review first hand evidence, you can't believe anything the media... either for or against Trump says.",
"There is a good reason why FOX does not allow their news show on regular TV.",
"and singular.",
"Right wing politics involves logic, left wing politics is emotion based. ",
"",
"So also like CNN, only that CNN goes as far to fake protests \nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aytKLPTUhCY \nThey didnt even take any effort, printing 3 different motives on bare printer paper",
"How can that not be the point of any sentence/sign/argument in which Hitler is mentioned?",
"Im talking about how people use the word \"nazi\". A few decades ago it was a synonym for a racist fascist, with the picture of a world of only white, arish people.\n\nToday its a synonym for \"He has a different opinion than me\" \"He doesnt like mass illegal immigration\" \"Hes against the mainstream media?\" = NAZI !",
"Well yes I did change that belief but others in the comments are saying that's what atheism is, down to the root of the word.",
"You call out CNN and MSNBC as some of \"the worst offenders\" in your first comment implying I don't know that, but then you go and vote for Trump?",
"For those non Germans wondering what the fuck AfD is, it's a far right German political party called [Alternative für Deutschland.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany)",
"I know survivors of concentration camps and family that still beared the tattooed number upon thier arm and they are astonished to see that people compare Trump to Hitler. They are nothing alike. What my very old great grandfather is scared of is seeing the suppression of free speech, the physical violence used by the antifa folk for suppression of opposing views...etc. This is the very happenings that started it all in the Nazi party... and lead to the rise of Hitler and his horrible atrocities. It's ok to have a different of opinion, people. Talk it out, find a common ground and move forward civilly. I'm afraid that will never happen. But I'll damn sure fight to the death against the tyranny rising from the left to see my children safe and raised in a free country ever if that means killing my own countrymen who seek to oppress freedom and the rights set forth in the constitution. ",
"Die German",
"Ah, the good ol \"Trump is literally Hitler\"",
"You're not wrong, and this is not just Hitler's tactic, discreditting a free press is pretty much dictator 101. This post doesn't say Trump is Hitler, simply that discreditting the press gives rise to dictators. But people who refuse to say their own side can ever be wrong in even a small way say that it's an extremist comparison so they can miss the point and say the opposition is simply whining and everything Trump does is flawless.",
"Nah just both of their right wing policies make them very similar politically. Trump is definitely better but they both hate free press, are authoritative, nationalistic and enjoy propagandist news sources that further their agendas. ",
"I know the holocaust was awful but let's step back a second and remembr that 50-80 _million_ people died as a consequence of WW2. ",
"Yep, democratically elected president one year in to office definitely comparable to a mass genocidal maniac bent on world domination and extinguishing all races but his own. \n\nTrump might be racist. Trump might be a power hungry fool. But comparing him to Hitler only makes you look like a fucking idiot. If you actually had any respect, at all, for the victims of Hitler's tyranny and any victims of similar tyranny across the world, you'd grow the fuck up immediately. ",
"The post killed bestof for me was \"User perfectly describes why the average Donald Trump supporter supports him\"\n\n2 paragraphs that boiled down to \"they are all racists\"",
"Don’t forget the story they ran where Trump literally had a Russian piss party. ",
"Oh shit I guess an entire country can't be unhappy because we remembered living in Africa blows. ",
"Cable news I think tends to be worse because so much of it is centered around ratings and getting people to watch rather than just informing them ",
"There are plenty of articles that are actual fake news",
"Keep eating I’m loving it\n\nEdit: this is how you troll an idiot folks.",
"Anyone that watches CNN knows fake news when they see it. \n\nThe funny part is, Trump only co opted this phrase. The media pushed it first while shilling for Hillary. Hillary was worried about accusatory stories coming out about her. ",
"How about the vaccine \"debate\"? One side has every scientist in the world, the other is granola mom facebook groups. Being a centrist doesn't make you right",
"Hm... nah.",
"It was impressive how quickly Trump co-opted the term. There was a real, somewhat dangerous phenomenon that now doesn't even have a name. Now it just means \"true things Donald Trump does not like\".",
"Really?\n\nGive me the list.\n\nMust be a pretty shitty list if it doesn't include \"gaining personal military power\" or \"asking for extended rights from the legislature\"\n\nI mean, fuck, Trump hasn't even deployed the national guard (except in Puerto Rico).",
"Sure I've said I've totally \"banged some chicks\" in the locker room. I've never admitted to sexual assault while I was married, nor heard any of 1000s of people I've encountered in locker rooms say anything close. Fuck off with that false equivalence. ",
"Someone familiar with their thinking lol what the fuck does that even mean",
"Antagonist_Dan isn't Hitler *yet*",
"But we already knew Trump was dumb and a narcissist. What this post does is poison the well against the usage of the term \"fake news\" as a whole.",
"She has been here for a few years and has been working on it. It takes a lot of time and money (a lot of scrimping and saving between steps), so our hope is that she can secure her citizenship before her legality is further at risk.",
"That's not how this works. This post was most likely botted, and only now is being downvoted down to 73%.",
"You're defending Trump. You're what's wrong with this country. ",
"If it quacks like a duck...",
"America doesn't care about other countries, it's not our responsibility to police the world. When another country says we've offended them or chose America first, who cares? They think we're a bunch of assholes, we don't think about them at all.",
"Obama did literally the same thing when he went to war with Fox News:\n\nhttp://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/business/media/12fox.html\n\n> “We’re going to treat them the way we would treat an opponent,” said Anita Dunn, the White House communications director, in a telephone interview on Sunday. “As they are undertaking a war against Barack Obama and the White House, we don’t need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.”\n\nObviously saying a news organization has an agenda and plays loose with the facts makes one Hitler.",
"Hitler owned dogs. Anyone who owns dogs is literally Hitler. ",
"\"No one was good\" ≠ \"some weren't as bad as others\". There's still a bit of a leap between mass murder and genocide.",
"I'm told trump and hitler both drank water",
"How is it unmistakable in any way currently? I think it becomes unmistakable when they start coming door to door to take away our guns. That's how you know it's time to stand up and fight. ",
"Should we wait till he actual becomes Hitler to do This? Would be too late at that point. Bet Germans wish they could stop Hitler before it was too late.",
"Well, reddit is not a hive mind so",
"Yeah then it got adopted by the Trump in particular to discredit any kind of news he disagreed with, along with the Alt-Right.",
"Do you like art? You know who else liked art? Hitler. ",
"The whole \"fox news admitted to not being news\" referred only to a tiny subset of their programming, not the entire organization, no?",
"Trump can’t become a fascist dictator on the same level of Hitler only because: a) he’s grossly incompetent; b) enough checks and balances exist to rein in his fascist tendencies; and c) there’s a strong resistance against him.\nCase in point: those “very fine people” in Charlottesville wanted that rally to be their own Night of Broken Glass, but Antifa and other counter-protestors held them back.",
"And yet none of the things he said are false. Hitler was an utter piece of shit, a deplorable example of a human being. That does not mean he was not indeed smart, successful or charismatic. He wouldn't have been able to pull off the atrocities he did if he wasn't. No matter how much you dislike the facts, it does not change their validity.",
"Trump sure does hate them jews...",
"My point is though trump is not nearly as evil as hitler was, they are both very similar politically. ",
"Yes, a woman moving her arms in a silly manner and then on a different day being taken to the hospital. Is that really the best you can come up with?\n\nTell me, what's a Turing Test? \n\n",
"Who brought it out?",
"It doesn't and it's not really true.",
"So you're saying this may have been fabricated and set up in advance to entertain us and keep our attention away from something more important going on for real? Wow, that sure adds to the power of this post's message.",
"So are we going back to the Hitler comparison now? I can’t keep up. This week it’s Hitler, last week it was Stalin, the week before that was literal KKK undercover Russian spy. Do we just keep rotating these until something sticks?",
"Wouldn’t he be pushing for gun control then? That would be the first step take as history has proved. ",
"The same way the [$386 million difference](https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/) in traceable money and private advertisement expertise in favor of Clinton helps influence an election. Except we definitely know that happened, and $386 million is [0.74% of Russia's entire military budget](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_Russian_Federation).",
"Creating a fuzz clearly implying the president commited tax fraud is pushing facbricated narratives at its finest. I’m not defending Fox news, I’m contesting your claim on Rachel Maddow. ",
"You’re uninformed, Trump is gassing Jews",
"1933 Hitler already tried to violently take over the government. He was imprisoned for it.",
"I'm sorry for your current leadership, I really like Canada. It will get better, stay politically active.",
"That place is a fucking disasterous hell hole. If you didn’t know anything about the political state right now you would think that trump has hanged women in the streets and personally beheaded immigrants. It’s nuts. ",
"Le Drumpf is finished!",
"So what? Americans need to be vigilant, yes, but saying he's as bad as Hitler isn't helping anyone. Then again, it seems like nothing is anymore",
"once he has a stroke it'll be a great day for everyone",
"It's almost like there are no good actors on either side.",
"No country is really innocent in the end, you need to take into account the motivation for these atrocities. For example, we all know that a ground war in Japan would have been in orders of magnitude more devastating than the two nukes.\n\nThere's no doubt that there was a certain element of making a statement when dropping the first, and then the second bomb. By that point in the war, I believe firebombing was halted because it proved ridiculously devastating to Japanese cities. Historians still debate this topic today really, and for good reason.",
"Trump criticizes individuals. Sometimes he's wrong about that criticism, but it is not fair to say the man is racist because he questioned Obama's non-disclosed past. You're mostly latching onto words over actions. Under Trump's presidency, the black community has less unemployment, more median income, and that's how you fight the crime that runs rampant in predominantly black areas of cities (e.g. South side of Chicago) - you provide opportunities to make an honest living outside of gang life ",
"Trump drank water is three words; hitler drank water is also three words. Half Life 3 confirmed. ",
"You need help. Seriously, if you honestly think trump is Hitler and his supporters are Nazis you need to take a break from the internet and the media.\n\nGo outside, experience the world. But seriously, take a break. It's affecting you in a negative way.\n\nEDIT: I find it interesting how I was on +10, then about 10 minutes later I get slammed by downvotes. I see this all the time with non anti-trump posts. It's almost like comments are being flagged to a load of bots...",
"We said the U.S couldn't/wouldn't let a lot of things happen in 2016.",
"You haven't said anything, other than you think that I'm wrong. You have no point, it appears you just want to compare trump and hitler.",
"That’s not a great argument against atheism. You can’t have absolute in anything because you can’t prove you aren’t in a matrix/simulation. But can have the same certainty that what you see is reality as god doesn’t exist. \n\nYou can’t prove a negative to absolute certainty but you can have strong faith in a negative approaching certainty. ",
"A straw man is not an argument against the obvious parallels.",
"Do not compare trump with hitler. Atleast hitler made some degree of difference by killing 6 million jews",
"I think he means CNN and Fox which do just push agendas and warp major stories to fit their individual social queues. For like local newspapers? Lmao you can barely call the shit in there; news. For gods sake our local \"gazette's\" biggest story recently was the fact that our last antique store downtown is going out of business. I live in an exciting town lemme tell ya. ",
"There are no more civil battles left in the US that's why the people seeking them have gotten so ridiculous and inconsistent. ",
"Haha ok. Why exactly are we one of the best? And I'm talking, like, top five here.",
"Yes, the men denouncing sexual assault are the true betas. Only real alpha males have to force women into sexual acts. Stupid beta males asking for consent! ",
"I'm by no means a trump supported but isn't comparing him to Hitler a bit far ",
"I'm sorry did you miss out on their petty attempt to make the president look like an idiot because he dumped a box of fish food into a pond?\n\nMisconstruing someone against illegal immigration as being racist against mexicans?\n\n\nI mean the list is endless here, they think its their job to spin stories and the fact you think otherwise is astonishing.\n\n\nThe fact they are more subtle in their lies doesn't make them any less propaganda.",
"Wasn't fake news as a phrase started by the left to explain Trumps victory?",
"This is pathetic. I’m amazed by the excuses being made here. Nothing of what he said mentioned women coming in to HIM. He mentioned only his actions towards them. Stop being deliberately obtuse. He was talking about using his power and influence to do what he wanted to women because his position allowed him to. Words don’t hurt me. But I do know basic comprehension. He isn’t talking about women coming on to him EVER in that conversation.",
"This projection that whatever Hitler did or said discredits the action or word is utter BS.\n\nJust not to be judged: fuck Hitler and fuck Trump. But just coz both Hitler and Trump wiped/wipes ass after taking a dump doesn't mean I stop doing it. Fake news is pervasive and always have been both under state controlled and corporate media.",
"Communist run papers sure. Kind of like now.",
"So everyone must agree by now this guy is a fucking twat. So how is he president of The United States? How does this happen? ",
"Yes. It is dumb. Won’t stop people from doing it though ",
"Literally Hitler. Y’know Hitler drank water? So, does Trump. Wake up, America.",
"Two things have to be different to be compared, otherwise it’s not a comparison. By saying they can’t be compared you yourself are making a comparison of the two, by claiming hitler is far worse. You can compare any two people and one situation having aspects of another situation is absolutely worth analyzing. ",
"I *really* feel like you're going to regret the leaving the /s at home on this one.",
"Yes, because our illustrious corporate controlled media is the beacon of truth and never, should they EVER be doubted!",
"Nope, that’s blatantly untrue. Trump simply has a more aggressive rhetoric, can you point to me one thing he’s done that’s actually against the constitutional checks and balances?",
"That actually makes you an Agnostic Atheist. You do not hold a belief in a deity (Atheist), but you also believe that we cannot know for sure or that the existence of a deity is unknowable (Agnostic). I feel that this is growing into one of the most common views especially for the younger generation. ",
"That, and for URL´s or filenames...",
"The FBI/IC were looking into Trump during the election, but ok.",
"It came from deliberately false or misleading articles (eg Hillary had a guy murdered) created on sites designed to imitate real journalism sources",
"^ This guy’s a fascist sympathizer",
"Ask yourself why we even have subreddits and rules and moderators at all? Maybe the \"LALakers\" subreddit should allow posts about nuclear disarmament? Or, perhaps, it is valuable to have subreddits designed for specific purposes?",
"911",
"What?\n\nI call bullshit. Plenty of hyper-logical people are religious.",
"No foundation for any of it tbh\n\nIf him making that pussy comment makes him a sexist then every guy I know is a rampant sexist ",
"(30 german women get raped as you post your comment)\n\n",
"There aren't 60 republican senators. ",
">idiots that got outraged about the H&M advert didn’t stop and wonder if THEY were the racists for correlating monkeys and black people.\n\nWow man, you're right. Why would such a correlation ever come to mind? It's not like racists have been calling black people monkeys for hundreds of years or anything.\n\nI don't really care about the H&M advert, I doubt it was intentionally trying to be racist since I have more faith in people than that. That doesn't mean it wasn't just incredibly fucking tone deaf to put the black kid with the \"Coolest Monkey in the Jungle\" sweater next to the white kid with the \"Jungle Survival Expert\" since that could easily be construed as intentional.",
"no, the point being made here is that fascist regimes have a history of trying to discredit media that's critical of them...don't play dumb",
"FOX claimed Obama used a \"terrorist fist jab\". It doesn't get more fake than that.",
"Our current political disfunction is very close to being classifiable as a \"failed republic\". It's been developing very slowly over the last 30 years, so we are much like the frog in the pot. Don't kid yourself about how stable or self-correcting the US is in these conditions. Not every forseeable event is recoverable.",
"Undocumented immigrants is more correct though lol...",
"Fake news in 2015 specifically was directed toward [fake news websites](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news_website), websites that claimed to be news organizations but were actually hoax websites funded by the Russians and other hostile foreign entities. It did not describe Fox News or Breitbart, which are legitimate conservative publications, albeit ones that public a lot of inaccurate and sensationalized articles.",
"There is no slippery slope for Trump becoming Hitler. In this political climate and today's age I don't even think it'd be physically possible, especially in America. Comparing him to Hitler does far more harm for the left than just criticizing his actions in a rational and thoughtful way. Yeah, \"DAE Trump = Hitler lul\" is easier, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's what we should all be doing. ",
"You mean MS13 gang members and their families? Typical libs. You only see votes leaving the country and that’s exactly why liberals hate voter ID. You’d never win another election if we had vote ID. Jennifer Palmieri even wrote a memo stating the importance of democrats keeping illegals in the country as an “electoral imperative” because even your own party knows they can’t win without illegals. Shit Hillary got 3 million+ illegal votes in Cali and STILL lost. Pathetic.",
"just why",
"Omg he’s literally hitler he’s gonna be in peaches soon enough!!!!!!!!!!",
"\"Everyone who doesn't share my belief is Russian\" \nFucking pathetic ",
"The majority of Americans voted for no one",
"I’d be screaming fake new too if they were constantly spreading lies about me.",
"Does this sub actually have moderators? If so, would you please do your job? Really getting tired of all the political shit",
"You're delusional if you don't think he's weakened our power and influence. Every country on the planet is working together to exclude us and bypass us on anything they can. We've become a global joke. Sure, we've got our military but we won't win a global trade war.",
"Not if you are comparing how the two men used similar tactics of nationalism and attacking any opposition in the media as fake to rally a base that is economically down and out. It's possible to compare two things without saying they are the same thing. By your logic nothing can ever be compared to Hitler until that thing has committed genocide.\n\nEDIT: the bots are busy today. ",
"Make a picture of a sign stating that, and then post it here for 10 trillion karma.",
"/r/thatHappened \n\nYou realize we're living in one of the most semitic-accepting times in the history of the planet? Right?\n\nOr have you never cracked open a history book?",
"My interest rate went down. ",
"Then how about the Muppets martians? Ä",
"How. By tweeting and making America look like a shit show on the international stage?\n\nOnly thing I've seen him do right was rake a Hardline on the EU not taking charge of their own defenses and Syria. And even then that only strengthens the resolve for the EU to rid itself of our power in the region, and Syria will be more troops, more equipment, more costs. In a civil war. Cause we did so well in Vietnam.\n\nBut hey at least I can tell he's a real human bieng by his dumbass rants.",
"Isn't the burden of proof on the one making the accusation? Innocent until proven guilty?",
"Whaaaaa?!? Trumo = Hitler?!? HOW ORIGINAL!!",
"I thought about it. Hopefully I made it just ridiculous enough.",
"Ironic considering it was the news media that coined the term “fake news” leading up to the 2016 election and it spectacularly backfired once the term was adopted by Trump supporters to describe how the media reported on Trump related news. Now all of a sudden the Hitler comparisons pop up,",
"when white supremacist groups have a military of over 100000 members, take over large areas in several countries and start executing all non white non christians id agree. \n\nas it stands white suoremacy groups have about 8000 members according to the splc. they committed 18 murders in 2017. now, muslim terrorism is an even smaller issue in the united states, but in middle eastern countries it is a WAY bigger issue, so it seems logical to be careful about how we handle immigration from those countries. \n\n\nthat being said a domestic muslim registry is shitty and racist. ",
"A bomb is a bomb. A concentration camp is an assembly line of suffering and death. I really don’t see how people can compare the two just because they both have big numbers involved. ",
"> You know, let's change The_donalds algorithm so they don't get on the front page.\n\n...and nothing of value was lost.",
"Anti Semitic, and a complete ignorance of history and how American government works.",
"Oh, the tried and true tactic of the intellectually bankrupt - compare someone to Hitler.",
"He literally says \"they let you\"",
"Yep, it would just be in that terrible Facebook gif format with bold letters proclaiming something and with something going on in the background that is loosely related to the topic.\n\nThen there would be all these idiots commenting about it like it actually happened and it would be shared across Facebook due to how FB shares \"activities\" with people.\n\nIt's still like this, just not political anymore. I'd always see something on my feed about \"This new invention will change the way you do X\" and I immediately mute the friend who shared it.",
"This is why I oppose absolute certainty, its for people who think they have taken everything into account. How can you take everything into account when we don't even know everything?\n\nIt's just a stupid way to think.",
"I’m going to ignore most of the bullshit you just spewed because I don’t have all day to sit here telling you why you’re wrong, but I’m gonna go with the one that annoys me the most. Trump did not *literally* attempt to ban people based on their religion. The list of countries he used for what you people keep trying to call the “Muslim ban” was created by the Obama administration. It is *literally* not possible to try and call Trump xenophobic (or whatever you wanna cal him) in this situation because he is not the one who picked those countries.",
"Lol, you realise 'bamboozle' wasn't invented for memes, right?",
"Lol imagine being this brainwashed ",
"This is absolutely idiotic. ",
"> Yeah, not like effects of radiation poisoning from the ruclear bombs are still around today. \n \n*fair point* \n \n> Holocaust was never actually proven to be 6 million Jews. \n \n*Alternative holocaust facts, let’s see how this pans out* 🤔",
"You know what I take from this? That it applies to both sides right now. \n\nTrump is obviously doing some bamboozling to his base, but has followed through on some good things.\n\nThe media is obviously doing some bamboozling to liberals, but is mostly honest. \n\nNobody wants to admit they could be wrong about anything, so T_D and r/ politics are just in a never ending shit throwing contest",
"... So in the same vein you can't make the claim that the current president is a fascist/is working to install a fascist regime because the circumstances are different. When Trump-critical reporters start suiciding faster than DNC leakers come find me.",
"Yo alright so show me the Six million Jews trump killed so we can complete the parallel ",
"I sure did. The only people I'm aware of that have ever mentioned the initial story, or the correction, are those trying to make a false equivalency. \n\nThe list is endless, and yet, you haven't provided it. Seems that would be quite easy, if it were true, eh?\n\nYou can be against immigration without calling Mexicans rapists during the announcement of your candidacy. Obama talked a lot about immigration reform, and no one called him a racist. Must be biased media, not Obama having forgotten to called immigrants rapists and terrorists.",
"Oh yeah, my point was that seeing the ~~(I hate to use the word, but idk what else to call it) extremism~~ *sensationalism at play in support of things I supported made me question whether what I considered at the time to be \"my side\" was truly any better or more intellectual than the other side.",
"Fake news is a fact when it comes to reporting topics like drugs, as that misinformation of public is state sanctioned. But Trump takes it to another level.",
"[Btw, here's a list of journalists who colluded with the Clinton campaign, which the society of professional journalists will tell you is a breach of journalistic ethics.](https://imgur.com/poKSCb4)",
"> his supporters are Nazis \n\nOk fine I will concede that they would be more accurately described as neo-nazis.",
"Hitler literally tried to violently take over the government. He was imprisoned for it. My issue with Hitler is not that he said that the press lied.",
"Over my whole life I've seen every President compared directly to Hitler on protest posters. Democrats do it when a Republican is in office, Republicans do it when a Democrat is in office.",
"Atheism can't be proven but every religion can and essentially has been disproven, so unless people come up with a religion that coincides with all scientifically proven facts, atheism is the more logical way of thinking.\n\nIt's just my opinion, everyone has the right to believe whatever he wants. ",
"The media and the govt are full of shit...money and power fighting for their side to have more money and power...we need a revolution alright too bad we are programmed to think either of these two give a better option",
"Even if you live in a small town you will have access to newspapers like The New York Times, The Washington Post, city newspapers. They sell them at the gas station. I used to live in Bumfuck Nowhere, Texas but I could still get the paper. Also you can subscribe to any newspaper and have it delivered to your home (crazy, right?)",
"lmao like get the fuck out with that dumb shit",
"Wasn't that exactly what he said? I didn't read condescending at all, but I'm also attempting to learn German and alt-codes *are* annoying so I might be biased.\n\n",
"As far as I know, the Holocaust's death toll also includes 6 million non-Jews, 12 million total. ",
"That's how echo chambers are built.",
"Please stop comparing Trump to hitler. Trump never killed anyone, while hitler killed 7 million people. ",
">racists\n\nExcuse me? You are fucking retarded lol people like you are why Trump will win 2020 ",
"It's more like comparing McDonalds to a Michelin tire shop.",
"So you truly believe that within 7 years we will have Trump rounding people up and killing them? That we will have Trump announce that we are invading Canada and Mexico and overthrowing their governments? You truly honestly believe that? That's the argument you are making. If that 's not the argument you are making then you shouldn't be comparing Trump to Hitler. It's simply childish. ",
"Read my comment again, the majority of voting Americans didn't want Donny. ",
"U finally caught on.. the 4channers have been saying this forever ",
"https://www.google.com.br/amp/amp.tmz.com/2017/06/27/cnn-trump-russia-undercover-video- \nhttps://www.google.com.br/amp/s/www.dailywire.com/news/17976/undercover-video-cnn-producer-says-trumprussia-robert-kraychik% \n\nhttps://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-27/cnn-exposed-undercover-sting-producer-admits-russia-story-fake-news-pushed-ratings-0\n\nEdit: i don’t get why this is getting downvotes. These are 3 different articles out of many showcasing ACTUAL video evidence of what a CNN executive said on an undercover investigation. Maybe people simply don’t like evidence?",
"Obama put more journalists in prison than Trump. Which currently Trump has imprisoned zero journalists. Pretty sure I'd rather have a president yell at the news rather than put journalists in prison.",
"I wasn't aware Hitler only did one bad thing. I though the steps he took to convince a functional democracy to elect someone who opposed and ultimately removed the rights of the \"lying\" press was also bad.",
">jobs\n\nWhich they have illegallly\n>property\n\nWhy would they have to give up their property? Since when is seizing your assets part of the deportation process?\n>families\n\nYes, because they can't move back either, they're stuck here forever!\n\nGood thing they would be deported back to a country of opportunity and freedom. Oh wait, that's the U.S., an objectively much better country than those shitholes.",
"Tell me, where *are* we headed? Do you truly know, or are you just making shit up because it’s fun?",
">Try not to generalize a whole population based on a few specific individuals.\n\n* You\n\n>Because Reddit hates America.\n\n* Also you",
"Everyone laughs at \"theyre turning the frogs gay,\" but it's actually [\"theyre turning the frog men into frog women\"](http://news.berkeley.edu/2010/03/01/frogs/)",
"We like to think we're high and mighty in terms of civil rights, but lynchings with the full consent of the local authorities aren't that far in our past. Neither are Japanese internment camps or tent cities.\n\nIn 2016 we thought NK couldn't hit his with their current technology. Now we know their ICBMs can hit anywhere in the US, ever since their Hwasong-15 missile test.\n\nMaybe *we* don't want a war, but it's not so clear what Trump wants, and he has been explicit that he has no qualms with using nukes to achieve his goals. He already threatened to \"totally destroy\" North Korea.\n\nPeople think this stuff isn't real simply because the mainstream news reported it, even though they're just reporting primary sources. That's the difference between \"fake news\" and actual fake news, which is making up the stories as they go along.",
"I can’t believe you think Nationalism or a sense of pride in improving the state of the country you reside in is a bad thing. If you are her illegally, you should not be allowed to stay. Regardless of the condition of the location you left is in...",
"Ah, yes, the last cry of the blindly militant atheist. Calling a spade a spade isn't always done to look cool, not everything's a pissing contest. Some people genuinely don't care.",
"I'm starting to feel like rooting for Trump because of all this childish content. Comparing him to Hitler? What's the point? Are you now suddenly a better person for doing this? ",
"Everything is fake except FOX? That's some fine copy pasta you got going there pepe?",
"\"Literally Hitler\"",
"Razor sharp sarcasm",
"Facebook and Twitter mean a lot less to the people who watch the news. Not to mention most people vote for the party, not the candidate as is.",
"Well, leftists don’t care about Jews except as a rhetorical device. Jews are just below white people on the social stack. ",
"Ancient Roman meme:\n\n1 2 \n2 50",
"So there isn't fake news after all? That's so awesome to hear. I was getting worried for a while.",
"American socialists/commie leftists calling other people nazis(national socialists) is adorable af.\n\nMaya monkeys are the cancer of this world. ",
"That's not true. I'm sorry but you're confusing extreme bias with outright fake. Fox is just conservative populist americas emotions in news form. It's extreme bias. But Obama did fist bump someone. He did use Dijon mustard. He did wear a tan suit. The fact that they will make a mountain out of any democrat molehill and a molehill out of any republican mountain does not make them fake it makes them bias. You insisting on calling that fake news detracts from the severity of actual fake news and the damage it causes. ",
"Probably, I was only talking about Germany. Didn't think about other countries.",
"I did forget that one.",
">There are no more civil battles left in the US that's why the people seeking them have gotten so ridiculous and inconsistent. \n\nI agree, which is why the person I'm calling out will just downvote and flee instead of educating us about how far civil rights still has to go. ",
"Thanks. \n \nBut to be fair, Trump supporters aren't Republicans. They hate both sides equally.",
"It's okay, buddy, you tried. I'm just sorry that I don't have a door prize or a participation ribbon for you.",
"It's pretty well-known information. You could just googled it you know?",
"Some Trump supporters actually use that term\n\nhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/us-election-donald-trump-supporters-nazi-term-lugenpresse-gettysburg-rally-republican-party-a7376176.html",
"\"Moderate\" is an ever shifting term, /r/politics now is probably more right leaning than it was under obama, bush would be called a war criminal and now he's praised for not being as much of a embarrassment as trump.\n\nI would say opposing trump is a moderate position.",
"All men denounce sexual assault. If you look into nu-male feminists, they tend to be extra rapey.",
"Yep, I’m done. I didn’t even imply that so you really are drawing conclusions from nothing. ",
"No one saying Trump is 100% hitler. but he is using the same tactic he is ",
"Yes, it is. He's inciting a lot of hatred and violence, which we can see with things like the horrific events at Charlottesville. ",
"Funny you compare Trump to Hitler but probably voted for Hillary if you're American. She shared a ton of ideology with Hitler: \nhttp://libertynewsnow.com/quiz-who-said-it-hillary-or-hitler-3/article2757\n\nLoL\n\n\nhttps://m.imgur.com/a/6ibny\n\n",
"Do you have a source saying the Russians can influence the election in America? Including how they did it?",
"He sold a missile defense system to Poland in his 1st year in office... ",
"[Better?](https://i.imgur.com/Jgl4yrU.png)",
"Interesting enough it was the far left in the US which coined the Term \"Fake News\". Adolf Hitler has a lot in common with those who did as well, he was a fan of Socialism and implemented many popular policies. \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNMAp8kXWrc\n\nThe far left isn't as far from Hitler as they pretend to be. The above video is them cheering a speech made entirely of Hitler quotes. \n",
"And every Democrat has been compared to Stalin.",
"Hitler breathed air before the Holocaust started\n\nTrump is breathing air now\n\nCoincidence? I think not",
"Where is this net zero immigration you speak of?",
"kick your teacher...\n\nSource am German, Grandfather lived throughout this time and is still alive and my own History lesson.\n\nNazi Germany obviously was a economical powerhouse but that doesn't mean everybody was happy and it was far far from being an Utopia.\n\nNazis rose to power because of those issues.\nThe war preparations helped the economy but this came at a cost.... ",
"People did it with obama, bush, clinton, ect. Im sure they do it for all world leaders",
"Plus Hitler would of been chancellor for the rest of his life if the outcome of WWII wasn't his limit. Trump on the other hand can only have a set amount of time in office till he either loses his 2nd term or not. Some countries out there don't have that luxury of choice. ",
"Most American keyboards don't have the ability to add umlauts to our letters without using alt-keys or finding it on wikipedia and using copy+paste. :(",
"Hitler was pretty okay when he took power too.\n\nThe killing of the jews, etc, was a very slow rollout of thousands of papercuts. People said what you said early about hitler too.",
"Godwin's law at work. I can't believe how protesters expect to be taken seriously when they make signs just to be edgy.",
"Russia? North Korea?",
"How would you define a minority that can be killed easily? That's a very interesting point to make. ",
"It’s not fear-mongering to compare a staple tactic of past dictators and fascist-hopefuls to Trump’s efforts to delegitimize the media. It’s an unfortunate matter of fact that what Trump is doing is extremely dangerous and creates indivisible schisms between left wing and right wing Americans.\n\n\nEdit: downvote me all you want, Trump is currently trying to consolidate his power through the Senate, an effort to destroy checks and balances. If you don’t like what I have to say that’s because it’s scary as fuck.",
"OMG TRUMP IS LITERALLY HITLER!!!! >:(",
"The Jappeneese tried attacking that before. Didn't work well for them.",
">Ok, Canadian here with a question. Is it really that bad?\n\nNo. Most people haven't even been affected by a single change Trump has made. I know several have, but most have not. \n\n>Like do people really think comparing Hitler to trump is warranted?\n\nNo.\n\n>It seems awfully petty to do so. To me, you're stooping down to that morons level by saying/posting this stuff. Please fill me in. \n\nYou just about nailed it on the head. I come to these shitposts and plead with people to discuss actual political issues or the next Democratic candidate since they'll likely be the next president, and instead j get downvoted and told Trump is literally Hitler and discussing actual issues isn't as important as bashing Trump. Oddly, these people wonder why they lost the last election. Let's hope we don't repeat it again in a few years. \n",
"Criticising people for actually lying = being a vicious bloody man who genocided millions of Jewish people (Trumps own family have Jewish members which makes this an even more disgusting lie)\n\n Whoever unironicaly agrees with this should be fucking ashamed and embarrassed. ACTUAL dictators and fascists jail reporters simply for disagreeing, they harass their families. Trump just says they're chatting bollocks, fucking grow up and think of the fucking millions that died because of Hitler, it's an insult to them that you think the atrocities of the Nazis are comparable to Trumps words.\n\n Get ready for 7 more years of trump you soft wankers",
"That's bullshit and you know it ",
"\nYou are forced to assume that the post implying that, or the post means literally nothing. Oh no!! Trump used a word like Hitler used! Hitler also talked about Socialism, but that doesn't mean that socialists are nazis...\n\nAlso, you literally used the term rhetoric, which directly implies that a word or phrase is being used as a means of persuasion. \n\n>Rhetoric - language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience\n",
"Obama vaguely reminded me of Hitler because they were both male humans, therefore Obama was a huge problem, right?",
"He is more like Mussolini- somebody else’s little bitch. \n“Fascism should be more properly called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.” Mussolini\n",
"Exactly. There's a huge difference between that and \"Clinton rapes kids at comet ping pong and murders political opponents in cold blood.\"",
"Suadii?",
"I find it interesting that Michelin Tires Co, award Michelin Stars (true fact).",
"Uhhhh, Wikileaks has nothing to do with that. That was the Steele dossier released by Buzzfeed news. ",
"Libertarian just means we think the government should get the fuck out of our personal lives and just do national defense and infrastructure. For social issues (ie marijuana abortions) let them be regulated but at a state level that way people have more of a say in them.",
"He has been in office for 1 year. He has spent a good deal of that time golfing. The general economy has been on the rise for years (under Obama). To try to pin the fact that there is less unemployment on the black community on Trump is stupid because he hasn't had a chance to really change anything. Even if his policies were harmful you'd still see rising incomes because everyone's incomes are rising as the economy recovers from the 2008 recession.\n\nWords over actions? He's the president, his words pack a lot more punch than our actions.",
"I've wondered this too. Honestly if you want to get into it, Hitler rose to power for a multitude of reasons, but the primary one being by capitalizing off of WWI.\n\nI'd like to try to find something to parallel the two on that key point though. Honestly I can't find one. It could be something as simple as general hatred increased over time and many Americans weren't ready for a black president, but I'd like to think it's more nuanced than that. It could also be that the internet age of excess information has fed the wrong people with wrong ideas. It could also be the idea of wanting to take the role of victim and not take responsibility for their lives not being as good. However, all of these reasons seem really petty and I'd like to believe there's something more sophisticated to their way of thinking. Now, I'm not talking about people that voted for him. I'm talking about people that continue to support him after a year of his nonsense.\n\nFunny enough, I've been considering doing a PhD on this topic, but I've got a few years before I can decide.",
"What the...\n\nI get that comparing him to Hitler on many topics is ridiculous but this is an example of both Hitler and Trump using very similar tactics to attack or discredit the media. Their actions on that front really are similar.\n\nThat's like saying you can't compare Charlie Chaplain and Hitler's mustache style simply because they were two totally different people.",
"Decoy snail",
"MAGA",
"I would say someone like Kim Jong Un, or maybe Assad. They're both basically war criminals at this point and one of them actively gasses his civilians ",
"Implying there isn't an equal amount of pro-right propaganda? Please see yourself out.",
"b-b..but that nuke saved 100 million lives, they are the good guys!!",
"You’re right, let’s wait until six million people are dead before we can really make a sound judgement. Let’s not jump to any conclusions until we know what David Duke has to say about it. ",
"Oh I'm sorry I guess you would rather have a fucking communist or a bitch who deletes thousands of emails after already being notified that she was going to need to show them. At least trump is somewhat honest. \n\nYour calling him a racist because he's getting out people who shouldn't be here in the first place. Sorry to burst your bubble but the world isn't all flowers and candy. We can't afford to let in every person who knocks on our doors.",
"I invited the crazy people with my comment, didn't i?\n\nI was just going to delete it but i think il leave it up.",
"are you kidding?\n\nEverything is racist about labeling someone as being \"bad people\" when their judgement is solely based on the fact that these people are from a different country.\n\nSo yes the AfD ARE racist!",
"Same tactics?\n\nHitler literally tried to take over the government by force.",
"Are you saying Trump is or is becoming a fascist regime?",
"> \"The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.\"\n\nYes, if anything has defined the Trump presidency so far it's the complete lack of anyone challenging what he says. /s\n\n",
"You're doing it again: this isn't about specific policies. Current US is a unique context, and will have unique paths to fascism. Guns are a non-issue. The power of the US military is so radically far above the combined power of armed US citizens that gun ownership poses no threat. That wasn't the case in 1930s/40s Germany. IMO the danger for any aspiring US dictator is freedom of information among the citizenry (which, again, wasn't an issue in 1930s/40s Germany); so it follows that the first step for them would be in undermining confidence in the key source of information - the internet - before regulating it into a controlled non-existence/state control. ",
"This is the oh-so original comment I was waiting for. Thank you for enlightening me.\n\nIn all seriousness though, my point is that there is a legitimate double mind on the media when Trump is brought into the conversation. And from what I have seen, Reddit definitely leans left. I don't think my pointing out of this double standard is at all unreasonable or denying that Reddit isn't a hive mind.\n\nThat you felt the need to say that, and (it appears) downvote me, does not lead me to believe you're someone who agrees that said double standard exists. Furthermore, I would suggest that anyone who is so invested in typing a comment such as yours (and apparently downvoting) is offended by the idea that the type of person I am referring to is engaging in a very illogical and biased double standard.\n\n\"Trump and the media can both be wrong at the same time\" is hardly controversial or downvote-worthy.",
"He hasn’t arbitrarily toppled any regimes like the last two administrations ",
"That label was applied a long fuckin time ago hun.\n\nHave fun idolyzing that bignosed Klingon shrew.\n\n\"Fuck you if you don't pay my bills, dolla dolla bills yall.\" Is a fucking Klingon ideology.\n\nHave fun playing with your ball in the corner by yourself.",
"Most of us germans compare him to hitler, not what he does, but what he might be doing. Ofc Trump is not nearly as bad as hitler. But how he got elected isn't very different to 1939. Members of the NSDAP party were mainly workers and he told them he will make germany great again with similiar words. Does this sound familiar to you?",
"Except the press invented the term “Fake New” as a way to say “don’t listen to the internet, we’re the real news!”. Trump just coopted the term. \n\nHats off the the morons who thought it was a good idea to start labeling news sources illegitimate at a time when the country is incredibly polarized. ",
"Lugenpresse sounds like something i buy for 2 digits at some 5th wave coffee shop that must be drunk with a weird implement and must not be mixed with sugar or milk of any kind",
"I think you meant to say, \"Claims in nearly every religion have been disproven.\" You can't disprove a religion, you can disprove claims. \n\n“If scientific analysis were conclusively to demonstrate certain claims in Buddhism to be false, then we must accept the findings of science and abandon those claims.” - Dalai Lama XIV\n\nBuddhism adopts science.",
"Implying the right didn't accuse Obama of being Hitler? ",
"It's the same level of depravity to use a weapon of mass destruction on civilians. Would the US have stopped nuking civilians if Japan didn't surrender? You can't compare monstrous crimes and say one thing is worse than the other. Both are disgusting acts that should never be repeated under any circumstances. \n\n\nSince I get downvotes and not a lot of arguments, consider this: \nIs killing 1 human worse than killing 0? \nIs killing 11 humans worse than killing 10? \nIs killing 100.000 humans worse than killing 90.000? \nThere isn't that much of a difference once at least 1 person has died. Assuming you are not psychopath, if you can't accept 100.000 deaths you shouldn't accept 10.000.",
"Then you tell them voting FOR obama was racist, if you voted for him because he was black. \n\nThe amount of people who understand what racism is appears to be small.",
"Their parents knew, so they should blame their parents for forcing them into that kind of life not the US which is just upholding its laws that everyone knew about. If my mother stole a mobile home then birthed me in that home, I wouldn't have a right to live in said home when it gets given back to the rightful owners, even though I did no wrong.",
"Trump:\n\n\n-\topenly corrupt\n-\tpainfully stupid\n-\tembarrassingly childish\n-\tlies literally several times a day\n-\tappoints terrible or inappropriate people to various positions ranging from judges to the FCC chairman\n-\tcosts taxpayers millions for weekly vacations at his own properties\n-\topenly acts against the interests of the public in favor of corporate profits \n-\tterrible person\n\nObama \n\n-\tblack \n-\t?\n\nI don’t know, what goes on the second list? ",
"I wanted to post something along these lines but was afraid of the heat I'd take. Hitler was a seriously messed up dude. \n\nTrump can be off putting but I'm not going to compare him to a guy who mass murdered roughly 7 million people. Jesus Christ. ",
"Arbitrary",
"You know, I took two years of German in college, and never heard of this? \n\nFor my solution, fellow Americans, you can add special characters to your computer's keyboard via character map. ",
"I'm not sure who coined the term. It wasn't Trump (he's not that clever).\n\nHere's some articles on Fake News before Trump took the reins: \n\nhttp://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/dec/13/2016-lie-year-fake-news/\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news#United_States\n\nThe wiki link has a LOT of sources denouncing Trump's sources as Fake News. \n\nBut in short, yeah, it was a leftist attack during the election before Trump took it over.",
"I did not support Hillary, on the principle that she was a bit of an oligarch.\n\nThis might also be relevant:\n\n>AMERICA first\n\n- Donald Trump on his Inauguration Day",
"Wait, so meth is better for you than public education?",
"The most logical candidate that doesn't support global socialism. I'd prefer a gay married couple be allowed to defend their marijuana crops with ARs while not paying 50% of their income to state and federal taxes.",
"It would be Luegenpresse if they didn't want to do the umlaut.",
"It absolutely happened.\n\nA lot.\n\nJust like with Bush.\n\nMoral of the story, the internet loves comparing people to Hitler. It's not a partisan issue.",
"I replied already, but this is to your edit: there are many circumstances that get bundled in with people \"choosing not to immigrate legally\". \n\nMy stepmom for example is here legally under a refugee act from the early 2000s. In the meantime, instead of just sitting around and doing nothing for 15 years, she's worked and built a life and family here, all the while working towards her citizenship (which takes time and money). Now the Trump administration is threatening her legal status under that act and she may get deported as a result. \n\nWe're working to make sure that doesn't happen, but there may not be much we can do. Even if we pull it off, there will be others who will be in similar situations and get deported nonetheless.",
"I don't see the point of drawing a comparison between two right wingers when one is clearly a facist and racist ... the other, trump, is not even in the same ball park. ",
"One could even call a Trump/Hitler comparison..... fake news",
">Originally coined by the German author Reinhold Anton in 1914\n\nwiki disagrees with you:\n>The term Lügenpresse has been used intermittently since the 19th century in political polemics in Germany, by a wide range of groups and movements in a variety of debates and conflicts.[1] Isolated uses can be traced back as far as the Vormärz period.[2] The term gained traction in the March 1848 Revolution when Catholic circles employed it to attack the rising, hostile liberal press. In the Franco-German War (1870–71) and particularly World War I (1914–18) German intellectuals and journalists used the term to denounce what they believed was enemy war propaganda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lying_press#History",
"I appreciate the affect of the bombs that lasts even to today, but the moral difference isn't in results or even scale, it's the difference between an act of war and organized genocide.",
"This is what makes me think a lot of the people arguing \"you can't compare him to Hitler\" are arguing in bad faith or just looking at the ends rather than the means.\n\nIf Hitler started with \"let's kill the Jews\", he wouldn't have gotten anywhere. There was at least a decade of buildup before then (arguably started when WWI ended) that led to small change after small change, eventually leading to fascism rising in Germany.\n\nI do genuinely think that people tend to be quick with the Hitler comparisons when it comes to Trump (Godwin's Law exists for a reason), but he does seem to share at least a few aspects that are worrysome. \n\nThankfully there are numerous systems to keep the balance of power in check, as well as a historical example to serve as a cautionary tale. ",
"And? ",
"Wait where is this happening",
"Uh, this thread is about a picture comparing Trump and hitler, that you came to defend.\n\nAnd once again, you accuse me of drawing conclusions from nothing while simultaneously offering me nothing.",
"There we are. 6 comments.",
"You're delusional",
"He is, doesn't change the fact this dude is hot on his heels.",
"https://imgur.com/a/zZv09",
"He wants his supporters to be armed and aroused to using political violence and intimidation to suppress dissent. You guys are pretty far along that road.",
"Looks like your work is done here captain. ",
">No foundation for any of it tbh\n\nYou're totally right, every not racist person I know has once called most Mexican immigrants rapists and drug dealers.\n\nOh wait, that's a super racist thing to say. But \"some of them, I assume are good people\" totally smooths it all out, right?\n\nAnd don't forget saying everyone in Haiti has AIDS. That's not racist, either? Or asking why we can't have more Norwegians instead of people from shitholes like Haiti and Africa?",
"There is a big difference between killing enemies and systematically exterminating your own people.",
"Pretty much silly to compare that idiot to Hitler.\n\nHitler turned a country destroyed and on its knees into a world class industrial, agricultural .......economy by rebuilding it from scraps and scratch before turning into a maniac.\n\nCheetos in the other hands is just a useless dickhead in all fronts.",
"He told second amendment supporters to take care of people. He told his supporters that he'd pay their legal bills if they would beat up protesters at his rallies. Is that not obvious incitement? ",
"That is a horrible analogy. It was not about friendship but putting your life in the hands of a person you deemed to be qualified. If he was sexist he would not have thought that a woman could lead him to victory. It would not make sense to him that a woman could a job better than a man but he thought so. That itself means that he sees qualification and delivering results as merits and not private parts. \n\nThe point being **they let you grab**. Do you really think that young 20 women around Trump or playboy owner were there out of goodness of heart. \n\nYou can do anything because those people will let you do anything to them. If you are willing to let someone do anything to you knowing fully well that anything can be done,how do you blame the person?\n\n",
"Unless someone out there is an oracle, no one knows exactly where we are heading. Ignoring warning signs and parallels would be foolish though. I'd guess a simmering civil war or neofuedal state.",
"Actually your comment is more weird and creepier than his. Not everyone is a globalist shill. Just because you were raised by two moms who taught you to hate America doesn’t mean everyone else is as retarded as you.",
"Where i disagree with Trump is his attempt to create his own 'news' through the whitehouse press which is just as biased as actual media outlets.\n\nCalling the media out for their blatant lies and getting the public to realize they are liars is a public duty and the only way to reform journalism outside of ethics laws.",
"First all. Where is this net Zero?\n\nSeccondly, America isn't the world police. We don't need to solve the world's problems.\n\nAnd we would just take in unskilled people and give them resources we don't give our own homeless? Or the elderly?",
"It was their choice. They knew this day might come in the future when they chose to migrate illegally. If they didn't want this to happen they could have entered the US legally like so many others have. If their parents brought them then they should blame their parents not our president or congress.",
"Here's a [link](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/dec/08/donald-trump-calls-for-complete-ban-on-muslims-entering-the-us-video) for you.\n\nSince you don't have all day, I'll quote it for you:\n\n>Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States\n\nThis was during his campaign. So he literally says he wants a Muslim Ban while campaigning, then juuuuust so happens to put in place a travel ban from majority muslim nations. The 'list' you speak of was created by Obama, yes, as an identifier as sources of terrorism but he never implemented a travel ban beyond a 6 month visa ban for Iraqis. If you think that is in anyway the same thing then you're obviously delusional. Who am I kidding? It was obvious as soon as you voted for Trump.",
"Try claiming racism when the group discussed is of the same race as you anyway - oh and call them a piece of shit too\n\nYou are a very confused and morally repugnant person! Still waiting on your apology!",
"What?",
"Yeah that's how i remember it. Social media has given rise to the easy sharing of sensationally titled articles of dubious accuracy or outright falseness. People share without even reading past the headline. So a couple years ago we started using the term \"fake news\" to recognize and warn against it.\n\nTrump came along and found the term ripe for appropriating. Awfully convenient for him; I'd say he pulled the tactic from \"Oppressive Regimes 101\" but we know how he hates to read.",
"Actually yes, Europe's sentiment toward jews at the time was outright homicidal (people literally thought that Jews stole their income from them), and Hitler (the racist), pounced on this easy scapegoat to propel hinself into power. ",
"Hitler in 1933 wasn't the same as Hitler in 1944 but both sucked and were unacceptable. ",
"Unhappy for what ? Mean comments? Creating more jobs? Denying illegals of staying here? You can be unhappy. But what I’m saying is you can never be happy, even if everything you ask for is done. It’s basic human psychology. Give a good reason to hate this president not some childish meme like comparing trump to hitler or voldermort. If this picture had a list of credible reasons for the March, you people will be taken seriously. ",
"If you want to be scared about repeating the terrible history of groups like the Nazis then you need to be looking at Trump's opposition, not Trump himself.\n\nTrump definitely has the potential to be dangerous, and could make some seriously harmful mistakes, but in terms of political ideology he's on the opposite side of the spectrum to Hitler.\n\nI don't blame you for being worried, because there are extremists all round. Just be careful that while you're fighting one enemy, your temporary \"allies\" don't take the opportunity to overthrow you both.\n\nWhat you might think of as \"safe ground\" others see as a complete disaster waiting to happen, just as you currently see a complete disaster waiting to happen on what others believe is safe ground.\n\nPersonally I think Trump is far too incompetent (and has far too much scrutiny on him) to cause any complete catastrophe. In that sense, he is \"safer\" than someone who *is* competent and has malicious or unintentionally catastrophic ideals, which a lot of people *think* isn't going to do any harm and thus results in a reaction that comes too late.\n\nEDIT: Please note I am not arguing that Nazi = national socialist = left-wing hurr durr. Good strawman, though.",
"\nRemember when Trump ran on campaign promises of banning all Muslims, and [bringing back torture worse than waterboarding and killing noncombatant relatives of terrorists?](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/3/donald-trump-says-hed-force-us-military-commit-war/)\n\nWho would vote for that besides a neo-nazi or some other white supremacist?",
"He would probably be proud to be compared to his hero. ",
"We should definitely be careful, we pretty much agree. We actually are careful now, we barely take anybody from the ME and haven't for a long time, but with everything that does happen overseas it's easy to whip some people up into a frenzy and convince them we actually need something like a registry. ",
"He’s obnoxious, has a huge ego and stretches the truth quite often. \n\nWith that being said I voted for him and I would do so again tomorrow. Economy has been on the uptick (and no parasites, it’s not just continuing the trend after Obama), unemployment is at staggering lows, tax reform was passed and no matter how much CNN screams it’s a good thing for a majority of the country, illegal immigration is being dealt with (even though the democrats are digging their heels in), we are done propping up countries that despise us and bloated, repetitive regulations are being scaled back. \n\nThis will upset many but that’s cool. The media (and Reddit) went all in on Hillary and she lost. The tantrums are more pathetic than they are sad. ",
"Please tell me truthfully that you were homeschooled or sent to boarding/private/military school.",
"Clearly because an evil person in history said something in another language that translates to something in our language that has a somewhat similar meaning, Trump is just as evil. \n\nI don't support Trump, but trying to reach 1000 miles to connect him to Hitler is stupid bullshit. You might even say it's \"fake news\"",
"As an American with a \"UE\"-ified surname, I endorse this message",
"Yes because I directly equated him to hitler....",
"Because Redditors enjoy discussing politics and the admins removed all political subs from r/popular.",
"Of course no one on that war was good - it was war and war is brutal. \n\nBut not only did the Germans start the war, they killed 11 million innocent people during the Holocaust, not to mention countless other civilians during their Blitzkrieg bombing campaigns all over Europe and their ruthless slaughter of the Soviet civilians as they invaded their country. \n\nJapan was extremely brutal as well,to China and the other Asian nations that they invaded. \n\nBut to say \"no-one was good in that war\" is extremely ignorant and dishonors the memory of the millions who suffered at the hands of the Nazis. ",
"ever heard of [Poe's law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law)?",
"\nRemember when Trump ran on campaign promises of banning all Muslims from entering the country, and [bringing back torture worse than waterboarding and killing noncombatant relatives of terrorists?](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/3/donald-trump-says-hed-force-us-military-commit-war/)\n\nWho would vote for that besides a neo-nazi or some other white supremacist?",
"Ha. Sure there are some right wing subs, but you are braindead if you think there is balance ",
"This is so ridiculously false. Hitler didn't start out as some \"charismatic politician with some interesting ideas about how to make Germany great again\".\n\n He started out as a genocidal anti-semite who wanted to subvert democratic control. His \"interesting ideas\" about how to make Germany great again centered around expelling or eliminating the Jews and Bolsheviks. \n\nOne of his first political acts was the Beer Hall Putsch where he was arrested for trying to lead a movement to overthrow the democratically elected government. Then, while in prison he wrote *Mein Kampf* where he made it quite clear what he thought of Jews and what should be done about them. This is was all a decade before he took power.",
"The problem here is that while you have a few valid points, they are completely overridden by your obvious partisanship which poisons the well of anyone taking anything you say seriously. You lump in Hillary's email scandal, an extremely serious issue to which many considerably informed and centrist people believe she unjustly got away scot-free, with pizzagate.\n\nSome of it was pushed by Russia, some of it was just people in third world countries using the deregulation and firing of Facebook's news curating staff by Zuckerberg to generate clickbait money, which if you're unaware, goes really damn far in places like Bulgaria.",
"Go to /r/politics and the average poster there is scared that a nuclear winter is going to happen any second now. Could you imagine living life like that? ",
"It is as if Trump gets all of his news from tabloid covers; you know the ones in the aisle checkouts. \n\nHis team has shown that American education is the best combat for the Russian involvement.\n\nHonestly; as a Canadian, I always see whacky videos from random places that shouldn't be there. I chuckle and delete em and block em. But, it is actually scary to realize how easy those who cannot critically think for themselves; can vote.\n\nSorry, but, whenever you read a news paper, or see a news story; especially political; you should always ask the 5 w's and h; who, what, when, where, why, and how. Basically who is writing the story, what is the main bit of the story, when did it happen (which is crucial- did they have time to think of ways to change the view point in their favor or are they broadcast neutral), where the news sources its material, and how they gain from this story.\n",
"Want a list of all the fake news stories about Trump that were edited after the fact or redacted by CNN?",
"Looks like T_D is leaking again",
"It's more complicated than a simple \"Trump is literally Hitler!\"\n\nIt's about the language used by autocratic leaders to discredit sources of truth. The sign makes no mention of concentration camps or ethnic cleansing. It's simply demonstrating that there's a pattern to how strong man leaders gain and sustain power. ",
"Found the vegetarian. ",
"I am betting most of the people saying \"Trump is not that bad\" are white agnostics. Probably men.\n\nThat's not saying \"fuck white men,\" it's just that they don't have to deal with anti-Semitism or any other things American minorities/women have been increasingly exposed to since Trump became president. \n\nAs a Jewish woman, the fact that Bannon was anywhere near the White House is terrifying, let alone that he was their chief strategist. ",
"I am sincerely curious about your current life situation which allows you the time and energy to think this shit up. ",
"The whole point of the comment is, Trump isn't 100% hitler but he is discrediting the free press just like Hitler and other Dictators and that should be worth concern. ",
"The view would like you to join their panel ",
"for the people who made this sign and honestly for those who agree with it, feel blessed your live in a country that allows you to put your complete ignorance on display for everyone to see. You clearly failed to understand anything you were taught in history class.",
"Argumentative, yet lazy. SAD!",
"Trump is literally Hitler",
"Oh oh, I can play this game too\n\nYeah, really hate most news being bullshit. Like Trump eating his fried chicken with a fork and knife! or Trump overfeeding the Koi fish on his trip to Japan! Do I dare mention 2 Scoops??\n\nYou see, the actual problem is that the news will spend more time talking about what I mentioned than what you mentioned.\n",
"You're talking to an idiot who can't appreciate nuance. What did you expect?",
"More likely mexicans and muslims. ",
"That's what happens to any novel term used to describe a specific thing, especially if the term originates from a place of some prestige ",
"How will Trump ever recover? Here's how Bernie can still win...",
"After WW1: Face truce",
"Fake rüse",
"Hitler hadn't killed 6 million Jews in his first year in office. But his rhetoric was pretty similar at that point in time. \n\nPeople compare Trump to Hitler because there are eerie parallels to their platforms, and are concerned that if it goes unchecked, it *could* lead to another Nazi regime. \n\nIt's a valid comparison. \n\nLuckily, Trump appears to be too fucking incompetent to ever reach Hitlerian levels of power. But there's still no reason to ignore it and pretend everything is ok just because Trump hasn't opened any concentration camps yet.",
"",
"Do you understand how tiny of a portion of his supporters are Nazis? Like, the Nazi population in the US is in the thousands at most, his supporters are in the millions. Less than 1% of his supporters are Nazis, but you're calling as much attention to them as you can to try and poison the well.",
"\"Build yourself an echo chamber\" is poor advice.",
"Comparing Donald Trump to ADOLF FUCKING HITLER is kind of a slap in the face to everyone that had to go through the holocaust, dontcha think? ",
"> Trump is at best an incompetent would-be-dictator who has spent his entire campaign and presidency lying, manipulating, and undermining the democratic process\n\nThat's the point. No one is actually saying Trump is \"literally Hitler\". People are pointing out that Trump has very similar beliefs to Hitler, and attempts to use the same methods. \n\nLook at this sign. It doesn't say \"Trump IS Hitler\". It just shows how Trump and Hitler both attack the free press in similar ways. Anyone bitching about it being a \"Trump is literally Hitler\" sign is just being disingenuous. ",
"I've been a man for 32 years. I've worked in corporate offices, low-level jobs, and academia, and have spent a lot of time in locker rooms. No one talks like that. In fact, the last time I heard anyone make a comment similar to that was when I was in high school.\n\nIf that comment seems to you like a normal thing that all guys say, then you are absolutely part of the problem.",
"Mobile. ",
"Not all news just conservative bullshit like Fox and Breitbart",
"I agree for the most part but constantly trying to undermine and discredit the media is a big deal and a dangerous precedent. I don't think it can be overblown enough, because free press (with integrity) is so important to our democracy. Of all the beef I have with Trump's policies and tactics, his bullying of the press is maybe the most egregious.",
"The nearly $100 million Trump and Hillary campaign poured into facebook ads alone says you are misinformed. \n\nBut I got it, you said even if its true we deserved it, LOL. Again, thanks for skipping to the end and admitting Russia's money influenced the election.",
"To me, it is stupid to believe something without evidence.",
"You say all that as if there aren't anti-Trump rioters also injuring people in the streets. Political extremists on both sides are willing to use violence to achieve their goals, who'd have guessed? Oh, wait, maybe anyone who listened and saw that political extremists often advocate for the murder of their opponents?",
"> What the fuck? This is such a weird and creepy thing to say. \n\nThis is literally the point of immigrating to ANY country and becoming a citizen...",
"If you plan to tell me that Trump intends to, somehow, take full dictoral control of the entire government and military and then put into action actual labor camps and gas chambers you have to be kidding. In our modern society there is no way in *HELL* anyone in that fucking office would allow him to even ATTEMPT that. If he even mentioned it as a goal he would be impeached. He's not gonna fucking commit mass genocide on you. He physically couldn't if he wanted to anyways. ",
"“Fake news” was widely used way before the election had even happened, and back then it wasn’t even a partisan term (by the way, what the hell does political leaning have with do with this regardless?). It described actual, literal *fake* news. As in stories that were made up completely. It occurred on both sides and was called out by both sides. However, when right-wing outlets started spreading literal fake news too, regarding the election, it was (rightly) called out, and at that point the right fought back by calling basically *all* news “fake, which is just absurd.\n\nFox News isn’t “fake news”, and I say that as a leftist myself. It’s extremely biased, and some stories are sometimes clearly untrue (ie. “fake”), but the term as *we* use it on the left it still means the same thing it did originally. We don’t call news we simply disagree with “fake news”, and we never did. That is, however, exactly what Trump and the right currently does. ",
"> Like do people really think comparing Hitler to trump is warranted?\n\nIt's tricky. Trump is one of the purest autocrats the world has ever seen, and the provenance of his rise matches that of the democracies that fell in the 20th century, including Weimar Germany. OP's post is one such example.\n\nOn the other hand, our institutions are strong, and appear to have turned Trump into a vanilla Republican. He also appears to be able to 'plot' anything that takes more than one or two steps. Without Bannon, I am not sure he is all that dangerous to democracy any more. Nuclear war is now my biggest concern, and Hitler comparisons really are pointless for understanding that danger.",
"He says when you’re as famous and powerful as he is, they let you. As in they don’t actively stop you once you’ve already done a thing without asking first. He grabbed women or at least bragged about doing it without consent because he could, because his power allowed him to. That is called duress. He was not talking about consent. How do you not understand the difference between consent and assault? Dude, that’s really creepy. ",
"Hamilton68 is funded by George Soros. That is all you need to know about the claims they make.\n\n-T_d poster\n\n[Check it out for yourself](https://i.redd.it/trf735i7zdb01.png)\n\n[Their own website](http://securingdemocracy.gmfus.org/about-securing-democracy)\n\n> The Alliance for Securing Democracy, a bipartisan, transatlantic initiative housed at The German Marshall Fund of the United States (GMF",
"See, what you have to do is open the mind and allow *both ideas to exist simultaneously*. Over time, the cognitive dissonance will fade and you will be able to internalize any idea contrary to the previous news report without question. ",
"Trump is a white male! You know who else was a white male?!",
"He is as bad as Hitler was during the pre war years. Before genocides began. These things didnnot pop up suddenly over night.",
">> A lot of this is just unneeded fear-mongering imo\n>\n>Totally. And all it does is weaken the genuine arguments against him.\n\nStuff like this getting a ton of upvotes only reenforces it. You can rest assured that no one is swayed to be \"against Trump\" because of ridiculous Hitler comparisons, and meanwhile Trump supporters laugh at stuff like this.\n\nIt literally serves no purpose.",
"Would it do any good to ask reddit admins to remove /r/pics from the default subs until the mods can figure out how to moderate out politics? ",
"And yet that story was widely shared on \"mainstream\" right wing outlets too",
"If you don't want Trump to win, then perhaps you should cease being racist?",
"[Truly](https://goo.gl/images/Cuc42y) ",
"Literally DESTROYED",
"That would be the parents' fault.",
"Besides this dumb comparison...how is Trump at all like Hitler? Remember how terrible it was when people did this to Obama? So why do it to Trump? ",
"No, I'm actually just from a place where we don't teach kids to worship our country and never question it.\n\nI don't hate my own country and I don't hate America; I just think it's weird to worship a country.\n\n",
"[Mr. Happy](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41i1BkKG0BL.jpg)",
"So what? It's not the president's duty to tell the press what they can and cant put out there. Watch the movie \"The Post\" to see what happens when a president tries to do this.",
"Lol, you are serious aren’t you?",
"Yeah. I mean the Truman doctrine was one of the most conflict-generating policies in the last hundred years. Lots of history profs are very critical of him. To support u/airbornpigeon 's remark. ",
"No one said you had to do that.",
"You idiots and your fucking guns lmfao",
"If if neo nazis were always as prominent as before trump, you have to admit they're way more vocal than before, and are more comfortable with him in power. Neo-nazis support trump because he shares their hatred for minority groups.",
"It's quite insulting to all of those who suffered at the hands of the Nazi regime all over the world. It really down plays how bad the Nazis where.",
"I think most people just doubt that last assumption that we are heading towards a Nazi future. It's like when people said Obama is gonna turn us into the Soviet Union. Is just a bit ridiculous and no one's made any real argument for WHY that assumption is true. Discussing immigration laws means we're headed towards genocide? \n\nIt just screams 'fear mongering' to most because of how silly and baseless it is. ",
"> I think people forget is that hitler wasn’t the evil person we know today. He was elected democratically in 1933. There were no concentrations camps in 1933. There was no persecution of Jews in 1933. \n\nYou are completely wrong.\n\n\nYou are only insulting the millions of Jews who died in the Holocaust by comparing the Trump to Hitler. Eight years before he was \"democratically elected\" chancellor in Germany he published Mein Kampf. Here are some choice quotes from said book:\n\n> the nationalization of our masses will succeed only when, aside from all the positive struggle for the soul of our people, their international poisoners are exterminated\n\nand\n\n> If at the beginning of the war and during the war twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the nation had been subjected to poison gas, such as had to be endured in the field by hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers of all classes and professions, then the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain.\n\nSo please show me where in *The Art of the Deal* Trump talks about exterminating a race of people?\n\n\nEdit: I also found this on wikipedia: \"The first Nazi camps were erected in Germany in March 1933 immediately after Hitler became Chancellor\".\n",
"It was just replaced with worse shit",
"What? Part of the great thing about being an American is getting to appreciate your immigrant culture. That is what makes America great.\n\nAlso, are you aware that we only benefit from DACA citizens? They pay taxes but don't benefit from any government programs, like healthcare or social security. Their deportation is costing our country millions and millions of dollars.",
"There's a lot more that he's done than just that, is the issue ",
"It is nowhere near similar. Trump is using his voice in a democratic country to speak against media propaganda - and it is propaganda. Analysis showed that 80% of news in 2017 was against Trump, all the time economy grows, Dow Jones is reaching new records, unemployment is dropping...\n\nHitler, on the other hand, used police to stifle protests, used government do close down media that was against him, used force whenever he could, and used central intelligence to locate state enemies. \n\nFew similarities don't make for any comparison. Would you also say that Obama was like Hitler because durig his term he approved illegal NSA surveillance of it's citizens, and used it to gain his party political advantage? ",
"No there are not massive throngs of Nazis in the country and there is no evidence Nazism is on the rise. That Charlottesville march had like 100 nazis that had to come in from around the country, 2 nazis per state. I am old enough to remember Nazi rallies occurring regularly throughout my entire life (often protected by the ACLU) but the thing is they never made it past the local news, people just ignored them as their stupid marches got smaller and smaller every year. \n\nNowadays every Nazi march has more reporters and cameras than actual Nazis shining a giant magnifying glass on a diminishing and inconsequential problem. The hysteria over Nazis is politically driven.",
"What is the difference between allowing and consenting?",
"Seriously dude, 99.99% of his supporters are just working class people who have lost their jobs in the past via the closure of manufacturing and/or people pissed off with the constant political correctness getting worse and worse.\n\nAgain, go outside and have a look around. Go to a red state and spend some time with trump supporters. Sure, they may not be very progressive but they are in no means neo-nazis. They're just your average person who wants lower taxes and stronger borders. Nothing wrong with that.",
"As sick as I am of politics on the front page...kudos, that was phenomenal pun work.",
"Hitler wore clothes. You wear clothes! You’re literally Hitler! /s",
"That kinda makes it wrong lol. \n\n",
"Thomas Jefferson is literally HOTLER",
"You're just a lefty version of a Trumper. You can go fuck off along with them, lol. ",
"The Nazis loosened gun control laws, and used selective enforcement to ensure that their supporters were armed and their victims, jews especially were not. ",
"The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. Atheism is the lack of belief in a god, not the assertion that god does not exist. Like you said, the time to believe something is when there is enough evidence. ",
"All because of the corruption in the emails. They didn't just alter my one vote, the DNC changed my political beliefs at their core. Trust me, having your belief system turned inside out is a hell of a ride.",
"He's the president you ignoramus he's everyone's de facto political leader. Also the argument that \"oh look the Nazis are on your team you must be the bad guy\" is fallacious as all get out. Each side has their radicals, they don't define the actions of the group and the groups don't own them. ",
"Retarded. ",
"The balance is there, proportionate to the population size that uses the internet. It just so happens that the prime age group that utilizes the internet (18-49) happens to be more left-leaning in the US.\n\nhttp://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/01/4-6-2015_06.png",
"So, one is not allowed to point out that many mainstream media outlets lie, exaggerate, and obfuscate for the seeming purpose of controlling a particular political narrative lest they be compared to Hitler? Keep up that independent thinking, Reddit.",
"Do you simplify complex issues to further your point very often, or are you just unaware of what is going on? Just curious. ",
"Dude. Hitler was definitely smart and charismatic. He was also a strong leader. You can be the worst human in the world and still be good at a few things. How the fuck do you think he got to where he got? Stalin was a strong leader. Mao was ambitious was didn't ever deter. You can remark on a dictator's strengths and weaknesses without praising them. Grow up. ",
"Just the other day they had some meme/image of Obama being lynched, and it said \"Rope\". I don't even know what to say about it really. These motherfuckers ....",
"/r/asablackman",
"The far right Britain First group here in the UK, who you might have heard of after Donald Trump retweeted them, state that 'racism' doesn't exist, and it's a term that was invented by communists to undermine white people or something.\n\nThis is a part of the whole 'cultural Marxism' conspiracy which is a follow on from the antisemitic 'protocols of the elders of zion' conspiracy that was invented to undermine the rise of socialism in the early 20th century by claiming it was a Jewish conspiracy.\n\nSo remember, when you hear people on the right talking about cultural Marxism, they are referring to deliberately invented, knowingly false antisemitic conspiracy theories. ",
"Newspapers are starting to get more sensationalized too imo because of the internet and social media ",
"I immediately discredit any moron who comapres any polititian to Hitler.",
"Yeah remember when Trump committed genocide? ",
"[You're not wrong, Republicans are fucked in the head](https://i.redditmedia.com/69-nkxdSnS_Lj_Io7A-nAKtn9uYk1ogt0-xCSO-NIw0.jpg?w=553&s=9769cae2f7203b03de3aaf2ebb3753bb)",
"Take a quick look through their posts and you can see what you’re trying to argue with.",
"And having a Jewish daughter and son-in-law...",
"Fake Rüse",
"Saying that people are using tactics of one of the worst people of all time does not mean that they literally ARE that person. It seems okay to me to point out that we have made these mistakes before, and they have ended us in bad places.\n\nIt shouldn't need to be said that delegitimizing the free press is a super bad thing. But here we are.",
"check out /r/itookapicture when you can. ",
"What? No. ",
"The US is better than Europe in that regard.\n\nYou do know that Trump is very pro-Jewish (way more than obama), right?",
"American here. No, it isn't warranted. He isn't great, but he isn't as bad as Hitler, either. I agree with you, I think it's pretty awful and moronic.",
"I totally agree! Those illegal immigrant babies should have had chosen to be born to non-criminal parents, like the rest of us good Americans! ",
"Everything you stated is Infowars/Breitbart level - which means that even where there are small elements of truth to it, it's still so heavily mixed with a does of spin and propaganda it's just blatantly false. \n\nThat's obvious to any objective person, and why it's so painful to deal with people like you on a daily basis. ",
"nah nah nah, you are thinking of Lügenpresse. Ü != U",
"If you care so much, then do the best and most cost effective thing and **Help them where they live**. That’s what Bill and Melinda Gates do because it works. \n\nSecondly the Dream act was meant to be a congressional bill that has never passed. The reason we are even dealing with it is because Obama used his power illegally. ",
"Put it this way: was this pic posted because it was a good pic, or because OP wanted to circlejerk about politics?\n\nThats the difference.",
"Atheism is the lack of belief, it literally means non-theism. Theism and atheism is about belief, as in having belief or lacking belief. Lacking the belief in something is not the same as believing that it doesn't exist. Atheism is not anti-theism. The deeper aspects are individual. Atheism is just lacking belief.\n\nYou seem to be referring to \"soft\" and \"hard\" atheism or KNOWING that something doesn't exist. That's about knowledge, gnosticism. That's a whole other topic and is covered by epistemology.",
"Lol, yeah that was the first ever use of fake news. Go back to your basement moron",
"Except it is not silly ore baseless. Luegenpresse was used in the same manner fake news is being used now. Thinking it cant happen is exactly what will let it happen.",
"All the salty tears. Love it.",
"[Please refer to my comment here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rxt2e/lugenpresse/dt0nwuw/)",
"> Some people just can’t see stuff without partisanship (you)\n\nThe irony of this coming from someone who participates in a sub so hyper-partisan that dissenting viewpoints aren't even allowed. \n\nThat's some funny shit, right there!!",
"Unless you ever had a narcissist in your life you are not speaking from the same perspective on this.",
"Yeah no. When they do not accept human rights, oppress their women, are honor killing, executing gays and kill hundred people every week globally, then sure. This dosnt even come close. Sure all these extremist groups KKK, neo nazi, antifa Blm scientology etc need to be watched but they play in the small league in comparison. ",
"I'm saying trump is using tactics commonly used by fascist regimes. cmon man this really isn't hard to understand",
"Its like the boy who cried wolf.",
"I used to think atheism was the absolute believe that there is no flying spaghetti monster. \n \nTo me that's just as stupid as absolute belief that there is a flying spaghetti monster. \n \nNeither can be known, why pretend one is smarter than the other?\n",
"Are you trying to be retarded? I can’t tell if you’re trolling or just dumb.",
"Maybe they study politics? Maybe they actually just came up with this on passing? Or at work? Or while taking care of a child? Regardless your comment has no value in this discussion",
"Perhaps if the press didn't constantly lie...",
"We were due for a populist candidate -- that happens cyclically, it just so happened to be Trump ",
"Yeah but the 1933 Hitler eventually became the 1942 Hitler.",
">At worst, he is complicit with the entire Western world's enemies, and is critically weakening Western power internationally.\n\nFunny, I could've sworn Trump is against Islamic 'refugees' and undocumented illegal criminals from south america and otherwise. ",
"Hitler was a vegetarian - erego all vegetarians are Hitler",
"For which there is no conclusive evidence. And the mighty and rightous USA is famous for never influencing the election of another nation.",
"there is a difference between gnostic and agnostic atheism. a newborn baby is still an atheist even though it has no idea what atheism is. an atheist is anyone who is not explicitly a theist.\n\nedit: just copied this off the very top of atheists.org *\"Atheism is one thing: A lack of belief in gods.\nAtheism is not an affirmative belief that there is no god nor does it answer any other question about what a person believes. It is simply a rejection of the assertion that there are gods. Atheism is too often defined incorrectly as a belief system. To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.\"*",
"Uh, no we dont.\n\nPeople like you that say that and the stupid fucking media do.\n\nStop putting down my Country and my President.",
"You know his kid is Jewish right? He also fights for Israel...",
"Or maybe you’re a closet racist afraid to admit that he thinks of black people whenever he hears the word “monkey” so he projects onto others? Thought so.",
"Anyone who compares Trump to Hitler is a moron who is mocking actual actual atrocities committed.\n\nSource: Jewish family. ",
"Well someone agrees with you and downvoted me, so I guess you could say.... Trumps impeachment is.... [underway...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YMPAH67f4o)",
"We give a shit about people immigrating legally. If you want to blame someone, blame parents that bring their kids across the border, or blame lax enforcement of immigration law. Go fuck yourself and your entitlement to shit.",
"Its the americans pretending they did not elect a true representative of their culture",
"You're right of course, however Hitler wasn't even Hitler™ yet in 1921.\n\nEdit: Ah, reddit. ",
"I agree there, but most will look at any comparison to Hitler as exaggeration and weaken the warnings against him. At least that's how I view it.",
">That is a horrible analogy. It was not about friendship but putting your life in the hands of a person you deemed to be qualified.\n\nYou clearly don't understand what an analogy is. Why does everyone think that analogies have to be the SAME situation!? That's literally the OPPOSITE of an analogy. It draws parallels between two DIFFERENT situations.\n\nYou're saying he's not sexist because of a singular action that would be indicative of not being sexist. Just like having a black friend *might* show you're not racist. But those acts don't excuse you from other acts of sexism or racism.\n\n>You can do anything because those people will let you do anything to them. If you are willing to let someone do anything to you knowing fully well that anything can be done,how do you blame the person?\n\nYea, see, this is the real issue. It's a fundamental misunderstanding of power dynamics. I'm a guy, so I haven't been in that position but that doesn't mean I'm fucking blind to it.\n\nIt's called coerced consent. \n\nSure, there are definitely instances of people happily sleeping their way to the top but there's a lot of instances of people using their power and assuming that's what someone wants to do.\n\nThe point is, Trump was not *asking* these women if they wanted anything to do with him. He didn't *ask* for consent. He just went and did what he wanted. That's, by definition, sexual assault.",
"Mocks mentally handicapped, hates any negative press, wants to waste millions on a border wall, pretends to be Christian, demands loyalty from intelligence officials, discredits scientific consensus, and uses propagandist news sources to promote his authoritative nonsense. I'd say they are in the same ballpark politically. ",
"Of course nobody but psychopaths believe Trump is anything like Hitler. Anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence immediately discredits these people.",
"I can’t tell if you are joking or actually believe Trump doesn’t murder scores of people because he’s too busy golfing. ",
"Mmm smells like some freshly baked bias in this. ",
"If that were the case, no subreddit would have rules and would be a free for all. ",
"So you're dads being insufferable and you're thin skinned k.\n\nAnd companies tanked because of an election that has brought about enormous economic strength and corporate benefits? K. ",
"But the problem is that now, claiming fake news is associated with genocide, even if fake news is actually a problem.\n\nPeople are using genocide to discredit the stuff Hitler did. Example, Hitler took away gun rights from citizens. Is that a good idea in today's situation? Maybe, maybe not. Either way now it is looked at as wrong because Hitler did it.",
"Is that Somali or Syrian 30%?",
"Comparing Trump-2018 to Hitler-1945 is overblown. Comparing Trump-2018 to Hitler-1933...not so overblown",
"I think people are just sceptical of the \"There is no other path we could possibly be in than the road towards Fascism.\" \n\nWithout solid reasons, people aren't going to buy into the fear mongering. ",
"That's what D.A.R.E. has taught me.",
"No, that's a straw man you are trying to puppet. Not a very good one. Try harder.",
"Is that what you think people's issue is? ",
"An act of war committed in hot blood against an enemy combatant following the rules of war of the time\n\nvs. \n\nindustrialized genocide as part of a war of extermination \n\n🤔",
"This is a very fair and accurate comparison",
"Wake me up when Trump invades Canada and starts killing people.",
"Leftists desperately are trying to connect everything to Hitler. ",
"I am aware of what’s going on. I live here. Now you give me a good reason to believe this president is like hitler and I will change my ways.",
"[Apparently the term \"fake news\" was already in use in 1894](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news)",
"Every year North Korea throws a fit and settles down after food and aid are granted. For once we're not feeding a biting hand. Imagine that.\n\nSecondly, NK doesn't have access to the GPS network. Meaning an actual missile attack would be inaccurate at long range. Like, severely so. Because the missile won't know where it is, and all guidance will have to be calculated in advance. Across an ocean.\n\nSure, there was issues in the past. But keep in mind America is a young country. And unlike other countries, actually has that in the past.",
"groß wenn wahr",
" Ah, the old \"other people have it worse and so you shouldn't complain\" ender. ",
"“Hitler was a socialist”. I must have missed that one during history class when my teachers were telling me he was fascist.",
"Plenty of presidents have done similar things.\n\nTrump hasn't actually done shit like close down CNN or whatever. He's just saying stupid shit. It's not good, but it's not Hitler.\n\nHitler's issue wasn't what he said (although what he said was absolutely horrible), it was what he did. What he did was use a manufactured crisis to take supreme power, then use that power to commit genocide and create a police state. Trump has done none of those things.",
"Agreed, whoever is downvoting you needs to shave the wool off their brains, goddamn sheep. Fuck the GOP, fuck Republican congressman, fuck DJT, and fuck any Republican voter who has doubled down with their vote.\n\nFuck Ajit Pai.",
"Trump supporters are 100% wrong, and by supporting a racist monster they are all, in turn, racist monsters",
"The national newspapers? Ehhhh I'd say yeah they most likely push agendas and warp stories. I mean the WP vs pewdiepie was an example of that. Either way, always check your sources kids and fact check your news just to be safe. ",
"oh look a president being compared to hitler how original..../s",
"Everytime you compare him to Hitler or any crazy past ruler like Stalin you drive more moderates / neutrals away from the left.\n\nAnyone who is center or already leans right thinks shit like this is insaine. Not to beat a dead horse but the people that are calling Trump and his supporters Nazi's really are why he won.\n\nTurns out when you label half the population as biggots when they are not, they aren't going to vote for you.",
"False equivalence. Bigly.",
"Fake News also is used for blatant sensationalism and questionable journalism, such as the passing on of rumor, hearsay, and utter fantasy as news based on anonymous sources. They get around libel laws by reporting that anonymous X said Y about Z instead of reporting Y about Z. ",
"It’s actually Lügenpresse. ",
"Both are right lmao",
"Nazis rose to power through Hitler rattling the racism cage.\n\nI can get a group of people riled up enough to riot with a few words on Twitter.\n\nIf he had left the jewtalk alone, he could have had that 1000 year Reich he wanted.\n\nMinorities are treated like shit in every country, just cus you guys were shit on in that period of time doesn't change the fact for the majority of Germans who, at the time were doing very well.\n\nYou're trying to shit on policies that work for a majority of people just cus your family had a few hiccups.\n\nGet some perspective. Maybe your grandfather was lazy.",
"↑ thißßßßß",
"Nope, he's LITERALLY HITLER ",
"That’s not the only instance of them baselessly calling someone a racist in this thread.",
"The Hitler comparisons are just beyond cringe... ",
"Hitler was also the first to introduce animal rights. There's no point in drawing such a comparison without an actual argument to back up why that similarity is bad. And once you have that, you should realize the comparison wasn't necessary to begin with. This is why making these kind of comparisons just makes it seem like you can't really form an argument to begin with. \n \nBottom line, a president saying the press is lying whenever the facts don't suit him is dangerous enough as it is.",
"Nobody is saying trump is hitler. People are pointing out that there are some similarities in the way they gained power. It is important to understand the risks of heavily nationalistic leadership and not let it get too heavily ingrained",
"Kinda looks like Trump and his YUGE pie hole!!!",
"Nope",
"An autistic correlation.",
"They say Hitler also made speeches in front of crowds, just like Trump. You have to recognise that Trump is obviously a NAZI for that reason.",
"> Do you understand how tiny of a portion of his supporters are Nazis? \n\nDid you know right wing terrorists are now more prevalent than Islamic terrorists in the US? I didn't think that's what Trump meant when he said he wanted to win the war on Islamic terror.",
"LE BRUMPF IS FINISHED ITS OVER FOR HIM XDXDXD [ :'( ]",
"The trans friend doctor concern is ludicrous. 1. Hippocratic oath requires that they help. 2. There are plenty of doctors on all sides. ",
"https://imgur.com/a/vyzI9",
"Both sides are the same right?\n\n/s",
"You realize you're responding to a Trump supporter saying it in a rhetorical manner?",
"Hitler ate green beans, therefore anyone who eats green beans is Literally Hitler. ",
"If only you could.",
"I like what you said, but I generally only trust people with minimum 150,000 karma...no offense. You'll get there. Lol maybe not.",
"You can absolutely compare them politically, just because trump isn't as far right as hitler doesn't mean he doesn't spout the very same nationalistic hateful rhetoric. \n\nSource: I kinda know a guy who onetime met a Jewish dude somewhere. ",
"The burden of proof is antiquated and a lame excuse to cover up the fact that there is no evidence behind the claims atheists are making.\n\nIf the first person said \"There is no god.\" then the burden of proof would be on them, would he be able to produce it? I am calling both arguments illegitimate for lacking evidence. I judge statements based on evidence, not what is widely accepted.\n\nA question for you, if it becomes widely accepted that there may or may not be a god and we can't know that, (as evidenced by most of the replies to my comment) wouldn't the burden of proof fall on the person who is making the claims against the widely held belief?",
"Last time I checked the president wasn't starting a genocide or killing people or putting people in concentration camps. You may not like him, but comparing him to Hitler is incredibly horrible to those and their descendants who lived through WWII and suffered immensely. ",
"*Yawn* \n\nNobody cares. Every opposing side compares the president to Hitler for various vague similarities that you can find in any world leader. If anything, it's a right of passage.",
"Yeah, if you check my post history, I read both. I was a neutral observer forever and it only solidified in my stance that I am neither pro-Obama (or Hillary) admin or Trump-admin. I think they both did a lot of damage to our country. \n\nObama via Hillary set the stage for a Trump victory, and a lot of the accusations against his administration right now are very insidious. I hope that it turns out to be more of a smear, it would really cause a huge shit storm if they come out and accuse several high ranking officials of sedition on either side of the aisle during this Russia investigation.\n\nTrump uses confirmation bias like a legend (for better or worse depending on who is reading this). He has really tapped into the true feelings (a lot of them shitty) of Americans and woke up a sleeping giant in November. Whether not it is sustainable will be determined in this years midterms.",
"Not until she is prosecuted, for either the Clinton Foundation, Seth Rich, the emails or Benghazi.",
"The trick of repeating a lie until people perceive it as true isn't working anymore. The only thing I perceive here is whinning. ",
"The degree of jingoism here that Americans just assume is normal blows my mind. And you're right, it's extremely weird.",
"I never downvote people. It’s a strategy of the weak-minded. ",
"You are one of the smart ones I see, saying that the media is not honest is making you racist, alright. Nice world view you have, surely gets you far. Even the polls on Welt online have shown that majority of the population is against the common media agenda on display, maybe theyre all extrem right, or maybe you live in a bubble.",
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lying_press?wprov=sfsi1\n\nHitler used the term as a way to silence the Jewish/communist/foreign press that criticized him. \n\nFrom the Wikipedia page I actually learned that it originated long before hitler though. I did not know that. ",
"This is disingenuous. Hitler didn't have victims until later in life. We should compare people in power to authoritarian leadership in its early stages. If it were up to you, no one would say Hitler himself was Hitler-like until he started killing people. At that point it's too late...",
"Jesus christ, Trump is not anything close to Hitler. If anything I'm surprised at the amount of people who are just plain idiots nowadays.",
"I think they’re just trolling",
"As the 4th guy, you also smell like shit.",
"Hillarys Email scandal was serious, I agree. Go back to my post history during primary season for proof. Was it more serious than the majority of the issues surrounding Trump? That's laughable (especially since Trump has been insanely lax on security, has people with no clearances in national security positions, and has been loose with his email/computer security too.) But fine, you think the emails are not a good example, lets pretend I used Benghazi instead! The man was obviously incompetent, a racist, sexist, idiot. It was public knowledge that he hated reading. Guess how that's carried over to today? He wont even read national security briefings. He wanted healthcare to solve itself and said out loud in a meeting \"why cant we just let everyone have medicare\" during a fuckin repeal and replace meeting. He quite literally doesn't care about the majority of the issues at hand. \n\nFor the record I hated Hillary too. She did a lot of online propaganda of her own with CTR. I voted Johnson because I felt her to be inadequate. But in a zero sum choice between her and Donald? I'd choose her every time without hesitation. We KNEW about Donald before the election. This Russia thing, sure, we didn't know yet, but there was enough info about him and his personality and his capabilities that pretending like we had to give him a chance is just revisionism and willful ignorance. It wasn't even close, and to think that it was, you likely fell into the fake news stories that made her out to be much worse than she is, and made him seem much better than he is. That's really the only explanation.\n\nMy points weren't \"completely overridden\" lol. Hillary's Email was two words of my entire post for christs sake and the rest of my examples were hardly hyper partisan. I'm a social libertarian. I *hate* the democratic establishment, first past the post voting, and all that shit. But the current GOP situation is **fucked.** It's not even close.",
"Didn’t he just deregulate the internet? Lol",
"Give me a reason why you want him impeached, why you compare him to a mass murdering psychopath.",
"I mean you can't deny it though. It's beyond arguing that all news outlets have extreme bias towards 1 side or the other.",
"I don't think the point implied is to compare Hitler's atrocities to Trump's actions. The point is that strong-arm authoritarians over the course of history have tended to use many of the same tactics.\n\nPart of Trumps ethos is that he's a practical, shoot-from-the-hip businessman who just gets things done. He doesn't read. He's not a student of history. And his apologists who buy into that don't like the fact that, when held up to the light of history, his tactics seem more than a bit shady. So, what better way to discredit critics of Trump's tactics than to change the discussion from \"Trump uses well worn authoritarian tactics to manipulate the public\" to \"But Trump hasn't sent millions of people to the gas chambers.\"\n\nFear mongering? Shit, if you want real fear mongering, just listen to one of Trumps speeches. I recommend his inauguration.",
"Everything i dont like is fake news",
"You're just in here trolling.k...",
"Neither do I honestly. \n\nScores of colored people ",
"Yea, definitely that. [Definitely](https://www.historyonthenet.com/authentichistory/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/Michael_Jordan_as_Monkey_Cartoon.jpg) [not](https://www.historyonthenet.com/authentichistory/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/1907_Postcard_Coon_Couple.jpg) [the](https://www.historyonthenet.com/authentichistory/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/2008_T-shirt-Obama_In_08_Monkey_and_Banana.jpg) [long](https://www.historyonthenet.com/authentichistory/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/2008_T-shirt-Evolution_of_a_President_Obama.jpg) [history](https://www.historyonthenet.com/authentichistory/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/1900s_Postcard-You_Doun_Want_None_of_My_Lip.jpg) [of](https://www.historyonthenet.com/authentichistory/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/1917_Rainbow_Comics-The_Little_Nigs_of_Tiny_Town_UK.jpg) [racists](https://www.historyonthenet.com/authentichistory/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/Scrub_Me_Mama_1941.jpg) [associating](https://www.historyonthenet.com/authentichistory/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/Anti-Patrick_Ewing_Evolution_Image.jpg) [black](https://www.historyonthenet.com/authentichistory/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/2009_New_York_Post_Cartoon_Cops_Shoot_Ape.jpg) people with monkeys.",
">Is it really that bad?\n\nIt's even worse than you can imagine. Trump haven't gassed a single person yet!",
"Hurt feelings. Despite everything going the right way. Thats all they have",
"Hmmmm",
"She’s fake as fuck. And the public was told we were fucking crazy to question her health for a week leading up to Hillary Clinton passing out and getting chucked into a van like a side of beef. ",
"Your ignorance of history and how the US gonvernement works is staggering, and your hysterical need to draw parallels between Trump and Hitler trivializes the holocaust, and is categorically anti Semitic.\n\nWe have checks and balances here. The power of the president is limited here, unlike 1940s nazi Germany. I can’t believe I have to even state this.\n\nTrump can’t even make a simple travel ban happen, which he is constitutionally allowed to do.\n\nMaybe think about what you say, before you say it. You probably didn’t even vote in 2017.",
"fake if true",
"T_D desperately downvoting truth as usual ",
"Interesting. See this is why when people say they wish Trump was smarter and better at his job they're not really thinking the matter through. We should be thankful most of all for his incompetence. ",
"It does, they were thinking of WWII. When Hitler wrote Mein Kampf, he was actually intending the older usage of kampf meaning \"field\" from the Latin \"campus\". The book is actually about his time in university, but people thought it was about his struggle and they rallied around him in sympathy. Having failed as an artist, he seized the opportunity and changed history as we know it. \n\nAll because the Germans are pedantic, and Hitler thought it would be more poetic to use an outdated etymology. ",
"Men? Check.\n\nWhite? Check.\n\nPolitician? Check.\n\nSome vague brand of populism? Check.\n\nLiterally. Hitler.",
"*Hitler-Like",
"I bet Adolf Hitler wiped his ass and ate carrots, just like Trump!",
"Did you see the fish feeding video from japan? And all the articles surrounding that? They knew what happened, and they went with the lie. Why wouldn't he say things against them?\n\nTalking about collusions and russians and things you can't prove or disprove... ok... thats bad, but atleast it doesn't make you look lile an idiot... lying about things that were broadcasted on tv, cutting out a part to make fit an agenda, and going with that... thats just terrible. Especially in the \"information age\", where everyone can see the full clip on youtube. So yeah, even if he didn't call them fake news, they still are. ",
"This sub is trash.",
"The only time in history that a governed was critical of the press was during Nazi Germany time? That seems to be what you are implying. \n\nI'm not a fan of the Fake News meme, but it doesn't mean we're heading down a path towards Fascism. I personally think we're heading down a path of corrupt Socialism over the long term. ",
"\"please be advised that even though writing or typing one more letter might be a nuisance to you\"\n\nHe said americans due it out of laziness as opposed to not knowing the language. In other words hes just a condescending dick head. Fich ihn",
"I thought those were considered heavy metal letters in English.",
"But you can't draw every petty little similarity and claim \"this is the start of the next genocide.\"\n\nAs I said above, Hitler took away gun rights from citizens. Democratic Party must be Hitler. Hitler hated gays, Republican Party must be Hitler. Hitler collected taxes from German citizens, both parties of our government must literally be Hitler.",
"And, what is the greater conclusion to draw from this? Non-fascists have called the news fake too.",
"> Trump trying to delegitimize CNN \n\nyes because it's not like he tries to delegitimize a ton of others (some very respected and with decades or century old track record) news agencies and then turns around to praise places like Fox News and infowars. \n\nNice try at twisting the discussion though.\n\nEdit: Keep the downvotes coming, that'll make you right any moment now.\n",
"Dumb. ",
"I think this is a reasonable and often overlooked point. You know who else had a reasonable and often overlooked point? Hitler.",
"But you and everyone else on here wouldn't be saying jack shit if she was",
"Although we probably don't agree politically, I totally respect this comment. Trump is not always truthful, but neither is the media. All I want is more transparency from both sides and less attacks against those with differing views. Corrupt politicians, both Democratic and Republicans, need to step down. Congress needs term limits. As long as they keep playing the blame game and voting strictly along party lines, nothing will really get done. It is rather childish. It was childish when Obamacare was being passed and childish when the tax bill was passed. If the parties would just work together, they could come up with solutions that would be better for everyone.",
"If you honestly believe that CNN & other major \"news' outlets haven't given over in totality to blatant lies for corporate profit, then you're a brainwashed idiot, and there's no saving you.\n\nHe's a jackass, and I don't blame you all for taking shots whenever you're able. That said, journalistic integrity has been chiselled away to the point that scrapping the entire system & starting fresh seems the only logical conclusion.\n\n\"Fake news\" is possibly the only intelligent thing that Trump has ever said. \n\nOh, and as for comparing a lazy orange idiot to one of history's most abhorrent dictators for the sake of your political leaning? That's pretty fucking* disgusting. One might call it.. \"fake news\"..?",
"/r/cringe",
"It is disconcerting that Trump is slowly picking at these American institutions and asking \"Do we really need these?\"",
"Ah yes, the old \"everyone with opposing views is _____ therefore their argument is invalid\".\n\nLast year it was everyone's a Nazi, this year it's trolls and bots. A step up at least.\n\nAnd no, you won't find a record of me posting in T_D. I blocked that subreddit while everyone else was crying to the Admins to shut them down.",
"He called illegal immigrants criminals and rapists. Why do you defend criminals and attribute that statement to all Mexicans instead?\n\nYou either have bought into the narrative of the media or are wilfully attempting to mislead people yourself.\n\nMost of these are verifiable facts which the media corrected only after intentionally misleading people.\n\nhttps://gop.com/the-highly-anticipated-2017-fake-news-awards/\n\n\nThere is plenty outside of these as well such as when CNN anchor Chris Cuomo told viewers that viewing wikileaks documents was illegal for citizens.\n\nhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/10/17/remember-its-illegal-to-possess-wikileaks-clinton-emails-but-its-different-for-the-media-says-cnns-chris-cuomo/\n",
"Ikr? Ppl always be sayin that CNN is fake news 😑 but I am an informed humyn being 👀 who appreciates the hard work that CNN puts into their headlines 🙏 like how would we know that BALUMPFT actually eats ***TWO SCOOPS*** (✊✊✊IMPEACH✊✊✊) or that he's only one pound away from being obese 😂😂😂 (Drumpf BTFO 😂😂😂) he even drinks his water with TWO HANDS (lmao) because his hands are ^small ^^✋ ^^✋",
"The difference being Hitler killed millions of people and Trump is fighting against corrupt people in our own government who have killed people/let people die (namely HRC) ",
"It’s understandable, there’s just been so many lies who can keep up. ",
"No widespread sympathy, apparent success to be vilified (gotta play the victim card), an actual minority, etc.\n\nNo single minority is well off enough that the victim card makes sense.",
"Making comparisons doesn’t mean they are saying he is as bad as Hitler\n\nJust that a lot of his tactics regarding “only trust me. The media lies to you” is very similar \n\nI know that beyond black and white but it’s not super complicated ",
"> arguably the worst person to ever walk the face of this earth\n\nIt gets fun if you drag the communist leaders into the comparison. Lots of leftists REALLY don't like that conversation.",
"My guess is you have no friends. That talk is par for the course among men **and women** in a social setting. \n\nDo you even know any women? They literally talk about dicks the way Trump talks about pussy.\n\n",
"More trump bashing, how original",
"It was inevitable [Muphry's law/Bell's first law of Usenet/Umhöfer's rule](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law).",
"I must be retarded because you guys have no fucking point but are still defending it.",
"Trump won't know any of this or bother to learn but, boy, if he sees this picture he will be cranky ",
"It's really weird to see people lump Pulitzer-prize winning newspapers in w/ Fox News and cable news. I don't understand the purpose of that except to discredit newspapers. What are your go-to sources for news?",
"That's absolutely true, but most voting Americans weren't stupid enough to vote for a right wing nut. ",
"Yeah. Funny how Russia seems to get the least of his vitorol while being the greatest threat to his office. ",
"> AND STARTED A WAR WITH 50M+ CASUALTIES\n\nAnd what do you think allowed him to convince the german people to go to war?",
"Comparing pre-WW2 hitler though... What's different?",
"Eh, they are going around and asking for papers of non criminals and detaining them. [source ](https://twitter.com/flimmigrant/status/954771543535611904) ",
"If you're looking at creating a domestic registry, domestically white supremacists cause more issues than Muslims, so it seems a little unfair. ",
">Don't talk dirty about m'girls, it's rape!11",
"^the ^entire ^reason ^i ^voted ^trump ^because ^fuck ^you ",
"So, the press is 100% truthful, huh? I bet at every point in history ANYWHERE on the globe the press has mislead people/straight out lied to push their agenda at some point. Just because Hitler said that (and truthfully I'm sure there was lots of fake news about him, there is about every world leader) that doesn't mean you can compare Trump to a man who massacred 11 million people... There is a ton of fake news in the American media, Trump isn't making it up...ignorance is bliss.",
"Never thought about it that way. Hitler should, at some point, be brought up as an example of a case where these types of tactics were used to create a totalitarian shithole of sorts, though.",
"*unzip*?",
">19,000 upvotes\n\nWow, I used to completely dismiss the people on /pol/ calling reddit out for this type of shit, but as usual, they were right the whole time. Again.",
"I guarantee you he won't do that. He's not an idiot, there was a lot of anger at Isis at the time, I believe he was taking advantage of that anger to get more votes.\n\nHe's not stupid, infact his campaign was very close to genius. Watch the YouTube video named \"[why trump will smash hillary](https://youtu.be/LibRNYJmZ-I)\". It goes though how he changes what he says and acts depending on his political target is. It's interesting watch. I would recommend.",
"Wait most articles about President Trump ARE intentionally faked news articles that are absurdly subjective and provide minimal factual information and maximum opinion.\n\nAnd 99% of it is sensationalized.\n\nIt's disgusting and shameful.",
"> there is no evidence Nazism is on the rise. \n\nThe nazis and klansmen at Charlottesville explicitly said their memberships were skyrocketing.\n\n/r/the_donald had been promoting that nazi rally for weeks. After it was over they blamed a Jew (Soros) and his evil media for making the nazis look bad. It was a play right out of Mein Kampf. Remind me, how many subscribers does rdon have these days?",
"Stop being pedantic. Trump has branded certain news outlets (CNN, MSNBC, etc.) as not only \"Fake\" but also \"enemies of the people.\" \n\nFrom his tweet: \n\"The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!\"\n\nThat is systematically attempting to discredit media outlets that are critical of him (notice he did not include Fox, which is biased in his favor). Trying to prevent news outlets from criticizing a leader is a hallmark of authoritarianism. Am I saying that Trump is an authoritarian leader? No, the U.S. system has checks and balances that mostly prevent that. But he clearly shares an important and damaging attribute of authoritarian leaders, which is trying to silence a critical press in order to influence public opinion.",
"LOOK! HE POSTS ON T_D! His comments are automatically null and void! ",
"Certain things are. Trump’s birther campaign saying Obama was born outside of the US when that was clearly untrue and contradicted by a birth certificate? Actively pushing a falsehood that he knows to be untrue. Things like “vaccines cause autism” and “climate change is a Chinese hoax,” pushing lies very damaging to society that are objectively untrue. \n\nAttacking the press as lies for ANY unfavorable content, no matter how indisputably true it is. Attacking an item as a lie, then acknowledging it is true and moving the goalposts to “well it isn’t so bad” has been a constant occurrence here. \n\nAttacking the judiciary - saying that a federal circuit judge was unfit to hear a civil case against him because the judge was Hispanic? That’s insane.\n\nFrom a policy perspective I don’t care a whole lot, it has just been usual Republican fare so some things I like and some things I don’t like. But Trump himself is 100% unfit for office and unfit for a role in political society.",
"I don't want people to starve and have their lives ruined. If it's the enforcement of a victimless law that does that, then the law is unjust, not the person. Fuck off. Dreamers also weren't even the ones who broke the law. ",
"You are brainwashed just by thinking everything that's not far right is \"hardcore leftist\". You've been convinced that there's some conspiracy out there and anyone that disagrees with any one talking point is instantly one of those evil liberals. You think that any american not towing your party line is an enemy. It's creepy and scary as hell how cult like republicans are.",
"That registry was actually started by the previous administration. ",
"The media may twist things or sensationalize them to get readers but it's their job to report facts. Any respectable news outlet stakes their reputation on reporting the facts. Donald would have you believe anything negative about him is a lie, considering the [source](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/), it'd be wise to doubt that. ",
"I survived 8 years of Obama being a secret Muslim commie with my sanity intact. I don't think I'll survive 4 (8?) Years of Trump being an Orange gigaHitler. Please stop. Learn about the evils of hitlerism and communism before you open your gob.",
"The nazis and klansmen at Charlottesville explicitly said their memberships were skyrocketing.\n\n/r/the_donald had been promoting that nazi rally for weeks. After it was over they blamed a Jew (Soros) and his evil media for making the nazis look bad. It was a play right out of Mein Kampf. Remind me, how many subscribers does rdon have these days?",
">Why are people so quickly assuming that others actually think trump is basically hitler? \n\nYou must be new here and completely unfamiliar with /r/politics and/or whatever brand new anti-Trump sub with 200 or fewer subscribers is riding the front page with 35k+ point posts this week. No one is assuming anything. You don't even have to leave Reddit to see people expressing the idea.\n\n",
"Because it's much worse on one side than the other. \n\nThis has been a tactic for a while now from the right - do terrible things, then say it's \"both sides\" by picking out minor things the left has done. \n\nTake the biggest left leaning media and the biggest right leaning media and compare them - the accuracy is far better on the left. Same with the current politicians as far as lying and corruption go. But the right spins it as \"it's not the right, it's just politicians in general!\" to avoid any blame. \n\nNeither side is perfect, but one has been acting much more irresponsibly than the other. ",
"I think it's pretty clear Trump is the reincarnation of Hitler. I mean come on, they both drink water. What more proof do you need?",
"Awww Godwin's Law at work again. ",
"Hitler: \"make Germany great again\"\nBill Clinton: \"I believe we can make America great again.\"\nOMG SRSLY EVRY1 TEH CLINTONS R HITLERS!",
"I live in a red state. Lots of great folks around here. They just struggle with empathy for other groups outside their experience. ",
"Jesus these are all fox news/infowars headlines. Try some real news for once.",
"Or make your 1 year old tote it around at a rally. ",
"The term was co-opted by both Hitler and Trump in their populist rise to power. It became a mantra to dismiss any criticism or concern from academia, experts, media, and opponents. It calls for a wilful distrust of any source that is not the government figurehead and establishes a hierarchy of truth with them at the top.\n\nWaving your hands and saying \"the left has used it to\" is disingenuous: fulfilling the original premise of the term \"fake news\", to publish obviously false information and claim it is true, often with vague comments and specious sources.",
"Too many dipshits in here. Is Trump like Hitler? Obviously it’s an extreme comparison, and I think frankly absurd. However, suggesting that waging war on the media and discrediting it isn’t exactly like Hitler and Stalin in the 20th century is ridiculous. That’s how dictators got power. Denying it is how those countries got into it in the first place. Discrediting the news is extremely fucking dangerous. If you think it’s not you need to re-educate yourself. ",
"So he was born wanting to exterminate Jews? That's what you're arguing? Also are you trying to say that \"Europe\" as a whole wanted to exterminate the Jews?",
"The Fakies were a SHAM award ~~show~~ list! \nWhere are the real representatives of the fake news??!?!?",
"Someone else being too extreme should make you change your optical views to spite them ",
"He literally tweeted about the \"Fake News Awards\". Let's stay on the point here. What the sign is talking about is legit.",
"And Germany directly caused both...",
"It's not saying Trump is saying something trivial that Hitler also said.\n\nThey both used 'Fake news' to dismiss information they don't/didn't like. This is far from a superficial comparison.",
"I just prefer alt+u myself",
"Because of the paid shills, this is literally propaganda",
"I'm not arguing that what Trump said isn't abhorrent, but why do people have to try and make what he said worse than it is? The parent comment made it sound like Trump advocated for the genocide of Arab Muslims, a la Hitler, what he actually advocated for was the execution of people \"guilty\" of having familial relations with enemies, which is more like something that would be said during the Red Scare.\n\nTrump is a really shitty person, one of the worst presidents we've had, but inflating the hate that he spews only makes you look dishonest.",
"Yeah I'm not a historian but I'm not sure why people constantly focus explicitly on the jews. You're really not getting the full impact of this atrocity. According to wiki on the holocaust, specifically:\n\n>Around 6 million Jews;\nusing broadest definition, 17 million victims overall\n\nJews (in the broadest definition of the word) made up about 35% of the victims of the holocaust.",
"tbh im fine with everything he did until the killing and war part",
"Yea no fucking shit our political situation is better than third world countries, lol. We’re trying to keep it that way.",
"There are always some stupid stories that don't deserve time. Yeah ice cream sure. CNN is factual though. They don't make up stories, or lie. Sure, it's biased, but at least it isn't blatant lying. Fox has been known to make up literal fake news stories. Breitbart and InfoWars are the two biggest fake news outlets there are. Bannon even admitted Breitbart was fake. \n\nAnd are you trying to argue against higher education? I can tell you personally that I go to a big private university, that's definitely very liberal, but there is no sort of brainwashing. Sometimes professors will voice their opinions (liberal, obviously) but they don't force it. They are here to teach and they are here to do research. What you're seeing is that the more educated one is, the more liberal they are (in general). It also seems like teenagers who are more liberal tend to want to further their education with college. \n\n> Surveys conducted by the Xavier University in Ohio have provided\n> a different explanation of the prevalence of liberal academics in \n>colleges. The survey outlined the Self-Selection Hypothesis, which\n> proposed that conservatives were less likely to pursue careers in\n> academia due to a combination of personal preference and belief \n> that they would face more challenges in achieving academic\n>success due in a progressive-dominated field. The study found that conservatives aspired to get into higher-paying jobs, whilst liberals were more likely to be affiliated with community service occupations and were less influenced by monetary gratification.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_bias_in_academia\n\nTake from that what you will.",
"What is their excuse for the uranium one lies?",
"4D chess",
"It's too early yet to see if the short-term gains translate into medium and long-term benefits. \n\nSomething trumplets seem to forget is that simply removing regulations and increasing employment isn't automatically a good thing.\n\nThe economy takes a lot longer than a few months to show the effects of such changes. Hence Donnie taking credit early on for all of the benefits of Obama's presidency. ",
"Haha yeah that’s such garbage, I hate that argument. There may be over 300,000 sexual assaults that happen every year, but at least it’s not Africa. Fuck that. As long as there is frequent crime and rampant corruption in the political system, there will always be something to complain about.",
"And anyone comparing him to 1933 Hitler has a serious misunderstanding of who 1933 Adolf Hitler was.\n\n",
"I mean the Washington post literally did lie about an internet celebrity to tank his career. I'm not sure about the other majors but fact checking to be safe is never a bad thing. Being cautious is good especially when it comes to crucial information. ",
"I think he's terrible. But is he Hitler? No, he's not going to war with Canada to make more living room for the American people or putting the Mexicans into camps.\n\nBut would he if he could get away with it? I honestly think he's enough of a prick that he would.\n\nI might be biased, though. But not because I'm a snowflake or an SJW or whatever insults the right is hurling this week. I'm biased because Trump and his faction of the Republican party have openly declared war on science. ON SCIENCE. You know, the thing that kept the Ottoman empire afloat while Europe fell backward into relative obscurity. The thing that pulled Europe up by its bootstraps in the 15th through 17th century. The thing that developed the pills and procedures that are keeping some of those hateful old bastards alive right now.\n\nI'm a scientist and I genuinely believe that the ultimate goal of science is to make life better for everyone. So when someone attacks 1) my livelihood, 2) the way I work toward the common good, 3) the method by which we make the most progress, I have to question their moral character and intelligence. By my observation, Trump is completely devoid of both.\n\nSo, how did Hitler become Hitler? A poor set of circumstances in Germany, charisma, and lies. Trump has the last two. One thing the scientific community is good at is pointing to real data when someone - from either party - claims something that's untrue. Scientists are impartial in their work (we may not be impartial politically, but we're trained for years to be impartial in our science); the data is the data and what it supports, it supports. Trump's ideas happened to run counter to data in the real world.\n\nSo what does he do?\n\n+ Place people with no scientific background as the heads of scientific branches.\n\n+ Tries to defund governmental programs based in science like the National Institutes of Health, NASA, the Department of Energy, the Office of Atmospheric Research, and others.\n\n+ Attempts to gut the EPA.\n\n+ Limits phrases that can be used in official documents, including *science-based and evidence-based*.\n\n+ Frequently engages in libel and slander against the scientific community.\n\nAnd what happens when our voice has finally been quieted? He can lie to everyone more effectively. He's treating news organizations who call him out on his lies in exactly the same way.\n\nLuckily, it doesn't seem to be working. Trump alienates more politicians everyday. The media and scientists haven't shut up yet and, I can tell you for sure, scientists won't. Not until our funding comes back and we have an administration who values our work (as most previous ones have).",
"This might be the saddest misrepresentation ive ever seen. ",
"Don’t get it twisted, Trump supporters way outnumber Trump haters here :) ",
"And so continues the circle jerk of ignorance. ",
"He's nowhere near as bad as the media and reddit want you to believe. He makes some good decisions (Complain all you want, the economy *is* in better shape under Trump), he makes some bad decisions. He says stupid shit more often than not, but as far as running the country, he's not doing as bad a job as most moral crusaders want you to believe. He's rude and insensitive, but he's doing his job and steering the ship. ",
"Break out of your bubble. Respect for the US internationally has always been couched in our power. ",
"You are basically asking a bunch of emotionally underdeveloped 20 somethings to stop being emotionally underdeveloped.\n\n",
"Actually no. Please deport me to a country better than America. I'll wait. ",
"Yup, then next day multiple left leaning sites came up with a \"blacklist\" of sites, which ended up being anything not left leaning. ",
"Logic 101: faulty analogy fallacy",
"\"The balance is there, it just so happens that more people are left leaning\"\n\nYou're kinda dumb. ",
"> I must be retarded\n\n",
"Why would a legal immigrant be worried about deportation then? We're obviously not talking about them, we're talking about illegals.",
"Wow this sub is pathetic. Grow up snowflakes.",
"Ok, if you're so bent on comparing the two, let's find an actual scale for this. Answer this question please so we can begin: How many (more) people need to die, to make an act worse than killing 100.000 unarmed civilians?",
"You drink salt water?? \nthat sounds gross. \nOr do you do something with it like add it to a cola or your favorite regional adult beverage?",
"[source 1](http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html)\n\n[2](http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/124527)\n\nIt always confuse me when people online doubt i can find a citation online of statements i make. It’s like standing in a library and somebody asking for proof of the location of the equator. ",
">> Maybe the USA deserves this shit getting aired out on a global stage. Years of political apathy, anti-intellectualism and cultural bankruptcy result in the shitshow that is the current state of the nation right now. \n\n\nBefore the election I told everyone Trump would never happen because he would be so awful that people would have to get things done on their own and actually participate in/learn about the system. I feel like there was kind of an initial push in that direction but it fizzled out pretty quickly. \n\nWhat I overlooked (and so did everyone else) was that the things you mentioned; apathy, anti-intellectualism, etc, are so deeply entrenched in some people that even seeing Trump get impeached via the current investigation won’t change their thinking. \n\nIt’s beginning to look less and less likely that opposing viewpoints in this country will be able to communicate or reconcile with any tangible results ",
"You're talking about empirical evidence as opposed to the plethora of spiritual evidence that religious people would point to. I think it's a little unkind to call people stupid over something that gives them comfort. ",
"Compare yourself to the worst in the world and you’ll never see improvement. \n\nEdit: to clarify, I’m not suggesting that African countries are the worst. This is a general statement. If you compare anything to the worst in the world, you will never see improvement. If you want to challenge yourself and become better (as an individual, town, nation, etc) you must compare yourself to great things. Only then can you seek improvement. ",
"Trump doesnt have the power to \"ruin\" America, even if that was his goal. People apparently dont know about checks and balances. The louder they stand up and scream against the enemy that they imagine, the better of a person they are to their facebook friends. Look at how many people go to those protest then come directly home and post pictures OF THEMSELVES at the protest to social media. The majority of this \"resistance\" thing is vapid and glaringly vain. ",
"The 21% corporate tax rate, the promise to reduce regulations (repealing two for every new one), the repatriation of billions of dollars from tax havens. People, companies, and other countries are believing in America and it's prosperity once again which at the very least is driving consumer confidence. Are we in a bull or bear market right now? How long have we been there? When did it start?",
"He has the same authority as you. 1 vote and his right to free speech.",
"As someone mentioned earlier, Hitler did not immediately start genocides. This is a comparison to his rule early in the regime. There was no genocide but he turned his people against news outlets and genuine sources of information that had attacked his character, much like what trump is doing now. So in this case, it would be an appropriate comparison.",
"Substance. Let me try.\n\n\"Man mocks and pretending people who act like adults and don't participate in extreme hysterical behavior are equivalent to their lunacy\" \n\n",
"He did pardon Joe Arpaio, who referred to his own tent city jails as \"concentration camps\".\n\nFox and Breitbart wouldn't report it if he did anyway.",
">I think you meant to say, \"Claims in nearly every religion have been disproven.\" You can't disprove a religion, you can disprove claims. \n\nFair point and to be honest I was also talking more about the 3 monotheistic religions since I don't know too much about Buddhism. But I would say that if a religion bases it's entire world view on claims that have been disproven (Genesis, resurrection, other scientifically inexplicable 'miracles') I personally find it hard to not consider them disproven as a whole. \n\nI also just looked at the definition of the term 'atheism' and my argument kind of fell apart. So forget what I said in my previous comment \n",
"EVERYTHING THAT ISNT FOX NEWS IS A LEFTIST RAG REEEEEEEEEEE",
"*triggered*",
"Don’t expect anything good from libtards",
"Hitler had a 90% approval rating and was revered by the press. This comparison doesn't make sense to me.\n\n",
"Do you have any actual source for that hillary quote? \n\nAnd now i embrace your silence.",
"Found the paid shill",
"No. He’s nowhere as bad as hitler. ",
"You can't prove something doesn't exist. That's the entire reason the burden of proof is a thing, and it's not \"antiquated\" just because it doesn't line up with your argument.\n\nIf I claim that I can shit potatoes without having eaten any potatoes, and then someone else claims that's a lie, are you going to say \"that's just as stupid as him claiming he can shit potatoes\"? Of course not, because that would make no sense.\n\nI am not a militant atheist and I don't go around trying to push atheism on anyone; I think shitting on religious people is stupid. But to say that atheism is the same as theism because neither can be proved makes no sense.",
"For example, many of the women who talked about his inappropriate actions around them during the beauty pageants. They did not consent to him walking in their rooms while changing or his other actions. They did not seek retaliation for fear of his power over their futures and the fact that they felt they would not be believed. Do you understand? They allowed it because of his leverage, but they did not consent to it. The same can be said of whoever he grabbed by the pussy. They may have allowed it specifically because of what he said, because he’s famous and powerful. That is NOT consent. You don’t just grab someone. Period. Your fame and power does not excuse you from consent.\n\nYou always ask first. And if you are in a position of direct power over someone, you consider that conflict of interest and either make yourself not in a position of power over them if possible (as is often required in workplaces and academia) or go very slowly and make sure the person you are trying to get with is on the same page as you that there would be no repercussions for them saying no. Essentially, don’t be like Dennis on it’s always sunny. If they’re not saying no because of the implication, that’s assault. ",
"Well the only reason people believe the sky is blue is because they're taught in (((school))) that that is the word they're supposed to use. We've been programmed our whole lives. Wake up, sheeple! *The sky is people*",
"I was agreeing with you and it wooshed right over your head. ",
"So Atheism isn't the belief that there is no god?\n\nYou are saying atheism is the lack of belief?\n\nIn this sense there are many atheists that disagree with each other.\n\nI don't believe in god but I don't pretend to know he doesn't exist.",
"Daca over our troops, do you feel proud of yourself?",
"Regardless of who they support I'm pretty sure it was easy to see the sarcasm. ",
"That's what everything is about these days. For example,\n\nButt slap = rape.\n\nIs it right to smack a girl on the ass when you're not sure it would be completely welcome? NO! Fuck outta here with that behavior.\n\n**Is it rape? Is it sexual assault?**\n\nlol no, and it dilutes what actual rape is.",
"He took advantage of desperate people who were\n\n1) demoralized after WW1\n2) broke as fuck\n\n",
"She wasn't taken to the hospital. Stop spreading fake news.",
"Even Democrat president's let's be honest",
"Its pointless to argue with these people. They move goalposts to justify their retarded view of Trump. \n\nThe historical ignorance and disrespect is mind boggling. ",
"He didn't try to prevent them, he made a personal statement about them. \n\nHe didn't silence anyone. Nice false equivalence. ",
"It is when literally no one else is doing it. And to the point where it gives Americans a false perception of reality. That's why he got elected.\n\nIt proves my point that Reddit still doesn't understand why he won.",
"Isn't the economy booming though?",
"I haven't really seen their coverage of it although I do agree that story is bogus. Do you have an example of them being blatantly fake about it? I will say their coverage of \"Loretta Lynch unmasking\" strained my patience lol",
"Thank you, Jerry.",
".....the greater conclusion to draw from this is that trump uses tactics commonly used by fascist regimes",
"> If you now say \"But that news is fake\" then you've bought wholesale the propaganda that you suggest only someone like Hitler would disseminate.\n\nAre Fox and infowars fake news? i have no idea. i don't watch them. \n&nbsp;\nWhat i would call fake news are literally news consistent of factually false reports that get distributed to further someones agenda. \"lies\" we may call them colloquially . If that is what Fox news and Infowars do, disseminate factually untrue information to further their own agenda, then some people might be tempted to call them \"fake news\" in that context. They seem to use the same word, but in a different context. Or rather how the original meaning of the word is. \nTo quote another user: \n\"Originally coined by the German author Reinhold Anton in 1914, the term Lgenpresse was used during World War I to refer to enemy propaganda. Some 30 years later Hitler and the Nazis appropriated the term to **weaken opposition to the regime, primarily accusing Jewish, communist, and later the foreign press of disseminating fake news.**\nIn books, Anton used the term mainly in a foreign context to refer to “enemy propaganda.” It is unclear whether Anton was a pseudonym. Critics of Adolf Hitler's regime were frequently referred to as members of the “Lügenpresse apparatus.” \n&nbsp;\n \nSo the question would be, did the left wing media use the word as a literal meaning with \"fake news\" as in: \"this news program is disseminating factually wrong information to weaken their candidates opposition\". Or did they simply accuse them of showing fake news without having prove of it to weaken _their_ opposition. \nIntent is key in that situation and key to the tactics. I mean.. if I say i found the final solution to my problem, that doesn't mean i want to murder all jews simply because i used the term final solution. It means i found the final solution to that specific problem in my context. ",
"Difference being that she didn't label EVERY SINGLE NEGATIVE STORY as \"fake news.\"\n\nHis strategy here is identical to Hitler. ",
"I don't read info wars or breitbart. I watch the news, fox, CNN, MSNBC, NPR etc and listen to the arguments people make. ",
"Atheism is not a lack of belief, it's the firm belief that there is no deity.",
"Why do people keep comparing Trump to Hitler? To say Trump is literally Hitler is such a slap in the face to me and all the rest of the Jews in the world",
"If they had compared Trump to another not-so-nice person that used \"fake news\" as their anthem would that have been better?",
"Your lack understanding about economics doesn't make me brainwashed. It means you should educate yourself about the subject.\n\nUnemployment has been trending down for years. The stick market has been trending up for years. Same with female unemployment.\n\nYour problem is that you and the test of the trumpanzees brigade through these threads without actually thinking critically about any subject",
"He’s not “at best” a would be dictator. That’s presuming that the best case scenario is he’s a would be dictator. That’s putting more power in his hands than he’s capable of.\nHe’s at best a mediocre to bad president. ",
"Regardless of the added sarcasm, the comparison is still dumb. ",
"You're not making an argument as to why this comparison isn't apt, you're just saying we shouldn't point it out. That's cowardice. Did Trump kill millions? No. Would he start throwing his political opponents in jail and start scapegoating \"the other\" if he got the chance? Fuck yes.\n\nIf Trump had the kind of power dictators and autocrats have elsewhere, he'd have already started deporting dark skinned people, made anything but state media illegal (\"people should really 'look into opening up the libel laws to include anything critical of my admin), and jailed political opponents.\n\nThese aren't liberal musings. These are the actual fucking things he's suggesting and continues to pursue, and 40% of the country gobbles it up. The only difference between Trump and Putin or Ergodan or even the Kims is that he is restrained by ironclad separation of powers. Not because he isn't just a little Mussolini knock-off",
"He ended the order deferring their deportation. What kind of fucking idiot does it take to think that's not on him? Not only does it ruin their lives, it costs the government money because that program was net positive income lol. Your comment is such a disingenuous stretch it's ridiculous.",
"I’m not a fan of Trump but anyone who tries to compare him to Hitler is a fucking nutcase. Yeah, he’s totally taken part in mass genocide. ",
"Lol, I love how the implication of your comment is that if there are so many negative stories then they must be fake. Just perfect",
">Hitler comparisons by the numbers\n\n\nExcept that the comparisons aren’t by the numbers; they’re based on very specific parallels. Specifically, a sharp rise in nationalism following an economic crisis, spurred on by a charismatic politician who uses minorities as scapegoats and promises to bring the nation back to former glories through a policy of increased infrastructure and military spending. NOT seeing the parallels requires willful obtuseness. Trump isn’t Hitler, but he’s a manifestation of some of the same historical tendencies.\n\nEDIT: Trump may not be Hitler, but he’s building an ideology and movement that embodies similar tendencies. Who knows what forms this movement will take in the future. It could radicalize further, or it could dissipate. Hitler didn’t appear out of a vacuum. He was inspired by a long-tradition of right-wing populism that stretched back to Napoleon III. In some cases, that inspiration was direct, such as in Hitler’s admiration for Karl Lueger, the anti-semitic and populist mayor of Vienna. None of these figures committed crimes anywhere near as great as Hitler, but they planted seeds that would eventually blossom into Nazism. The echoes of what Trump is doing will resonate long after he leaves office, and anyone who fails to see how that legacy could become the seedbed for future fascist movements is ignorant of history. That being said, we don’t need to appeal to historical analogies to condemn what Trump is doing. It can be condemned directly, on its own terms.",
"It's like poetry!",
"Nah Clinton was OK. ",
">the blitz \n\nAllied civilian bombing was just as bad. ",
"So, you're fine with whatever bullshit happens just because it doesn't (yet) affect you personally?\n\nThis is basically the low-level version of:\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...",
"True Scotsman is such a playground tactic in debating: \n\nIf someone is out-smarting you in a debate, simply change the subject by questioning their credibility. ",
"No, it wasn't. The previous administration was Obama.\n\nGWB tried a muslim registry.",
"I agree. He is not a good president, or even a good person. However, people go so far with their never-trump rhetoric that I actually have to defend him ",
"Questionably not far? Gimme a break. Veeeeerry far off from the atrocities of Nazi Germany.",
"Lol, Hitler wasn't socialist. Go read a history book.",
"If Trump was Hitler we wouldn't know it until we invaded Mexico and Canada for \"living space\"",
"More “Literally Hitler” stuff, I see...",
"The two main qualities they look for in racists",
"It’s very politically irresponsible to keep comparing trump and hitler especially because they have used words that are similar to each other",
"If Trump was Hitler, the person holding that sign would have been captured by the secret police and killed. Since that didn't happen, we can assume Trump isn't Hitler.",
"Please use my entire statement when quoting me. The balance is proportionate to the user base. \n\nThe user base is more likely to be left leaning, so the dialogue reflects the population.\n",
"Because Japan lost WWII, that means Hawaii is invincible to attacks? \n\nI don't think anyone is saying NK would win a war with the US. But if we did go to war, they could possibly hit Hawaii or the West Coast with a nuke. Lots of people would die. They would certainly be able to wipe Seoul off the map before we could stop them. \n\nThe danger isn't in losing a war with NK, it's the casualties that would happen on the way to winning a war with them.",
"Which would be a lot harder for him to do if the press didn't already have a reputation for making shit up. Remember pissgate?\n\nDoes this make every negative news story about Trump false: No.\nDoes this make it impossibly difficult to *trust* ANY news story about Trump: Yes.",
"No. I'm American and I think its absolutely ridiculous. Trump is nowhere as smart or charismatic as hitler. (And no I dont fucking support hitler I'm just saying his country was wholly united behind him but trump couldnt unite a dog with a bone)",
"I think it should also be pointed out that neither OP nor the person holding the sign actually said Trump was like Hitler. All that’s being done is comparing their tactics of trying to discredit the press, which is an incredibly appropriate comparison. ",
"This in the post about comparing trump to Hitler...",
"This same tactic were discussing has also been used by non-fascists. You don't really have a point.",
"But trump is literally hitler. You know killed millions of people and shit",
"Muh Rusha",
"Jesus Christ he is not nearly as bad as Hitler.",
" It was primarily used to describe how the MM fucked up by telling people that Clinton was a 100% shoe-in for president. And then Trump won, and suddenly people cared that their sources of news were little more than cheering sections. The giant \"what the fuck?\" reaction then hit the media, and the media started pointing fingers in every other direction to find a scapegoat. ",
"And I think you're exaggerating the importance of these exaggerations. ",
"win what? it's 2018. The only elections going on are midterms. They don't elect presidents during midterms. \nJust saying, but a civics class wouldn't hurt.",
"Sub-reddits is a stupid name. They should be called Below-reddits, or Der Unter-redditen.",
"didn't the term \"fake news\" started by mainstream media in order to deny any responsibility of their biased reporting? \n\nLooks like MSM is more hitler than Trump. And judging by this pic it looks like it's working.",
"> but it's questionably not far.\n\nAre you saying the current situation in the United States is not far from 1930-1945 germany?",
"Indeed, as someone who isn't american I can't believe some people compare Trump, just a moron, to fucking Hitler, one of the worst persons in the entire human history.",
"I'm an atheist and I don't claim shit. I just want to see scientific evidence that your god exists and if you present it to me, I'll convert to your religion. Otherwise, I have no reason to think a god exists. If someone proves the flying spaghetti monster is real, I will worship it. ",
"I believe your first point is superseded by [this](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/18/us/health-care-office-abortion-contraception.html). I agree with your second point, but it does mean less healthcare workers around for certain procedures (like gender reassignment surgery, something my friend is currently saving up for) and potentially higher costs as a result.",
"https://imgur.com/a/vyzI9",
"Your laugh comment really backfired on you. ",
"Reddit doesn’t cater to T_Der’s feelings. If you’re offended, you don’t have to look.",
"Good ad hominem try refuting a point for once",
"Right, every point we bring up that makes him differ from Hitler is a subtle one but you have YET to provide examples or proof that he’s turning the US into a Fascist regime. \n\n",
"It’s also absolutely comical that Reddit let’s this get to the front page. Agenda much? ",
"Get out! Trump is Hitler? What a new and interesting argument...",
"Ayyyy this was at the nyc womens march and I saw it",
"He's condemning the \"press\"(news orgs) and what(often incorrect/inaccurate) they're printing, not the right to free press.",
"*figuratively. ",
"Do you believe the garbage you type? Or are you just looking for karma ",
"The majority of definitions call it a lack of belief OR belief there is no god. ",
"a river is much bigger than a stream, but i can still compare them.",
"That’s a great quote. Will for sure go down in history books as one of the leading reasons he won. \n\nAMERICA FIRST. ",
"Pizzagate is a good example also.",
"There's also a US International Keyboard layout that most systems support that lets you input special characters. You would type \" followed by a u and then it'll come out as ü.\n\nYou can add it within your OS keyboard settings and switch between the keyboards as needed.",
"I’m sorry you have to live in NYC",
"Putting a /s in it defeats the purpose of sarcasm",
"You failed to answer the Turing Test question. That's hilarious. Also, killfiled. ",
"Explain how somebody can be racist against someone the same race as them!\n\nYou won’t though, you just accuse people then ignore their proof to show how wrong you are! \n\nMorally repugnant!!",
"Always hilarious to read",
"Trump is comparable to Hitler in the regards that he is a nationalist (not even in that regard are they similar; Trump nationalism is very much cultural unlike Hitler), and that they are both elected off of the angry cries of downtrodden people. Trump doesn't have brown-shirts, isn't socialist, isn't clandestine, doesn't suppress the first, doesn't shadily undermine democracy, doesn't call for radical sweeping changes in society (instead Trump calls for a return to old ways), and doesn't hyper-militarize claiming mexico needs to give up land for american living space.\n\nThe Hitler comparisons are as thin as a sheet of paper, and holes can be poked through just as easily. Saying that because Trump=Populist=Hitler is a lot like saying that Trump=Drinks Water=Hitler. It's frankly ludicrous. Come see me when Trump-critical reporters start suiciding with two bullets to the back of the head or Trump supporters start interrupting and screaming at the opposition whenever they come to speak.",
"lol the_dumbass is leaking",
"Not a single comment in favour of these posts. Says it all really",
"What the fuck is this horseshit of a response? You completely glossed over my original point. I guess it was too difficult for you to comprehend anyways.",
"It is almost like there are bots on Reddit trying to push a political agenda. ",
"^ This guy’s a communist sympathizer",
"That is (a particular type of) nationalist, not racist. I mean, the definition is in the word itself. \"My nation is inherently better than your nation\" = nationalist.\n\nDon't weaken the term \"racist\", not that there's any saving it anymore. The two are also not mutually exclusive, but they do not necessarily come as a package either. I really detest that \"racist\" has turned into just another word for \"don't like your politics.\" That gives a lot more wiggle room (and support) for the real racists, who most certainly still exist.\n\nThis may seem like a moot point, especially if you see nationalism and racism as equally bad. However, if you try to deal with nationalists as racists or racists as nationalists, you run the danger of swelling your opposition unnecessarily. ",
"Yeah me too it’s my parent’s fault lol",
"Yeah but generally speaking Hitler isn't considered evil or particularly bad because he started a war.\n\nIt was the genocide.",
"This is a co-ordinated paid for upvote botfarm to target these \"sign\" posts. The shills realised they were the only ones using /r/politics so they spread their cancer to other subreddits in order to reach a wider target area by using the default subreddits, which also means they can target lurkers.\n\nIt's extremely easy to spot, usually you will have a bunch of circlejerky top posts like you witness in all these threads but the actual non-shills on reddit usually still get upvoted. like the post you just responded too.\n\n",
"Paul Johnson 2016 baby",
"He wasn't talking about immigrants for one. \n\nEdit: immigrants and illegal aliens are different things.\n\nEdit2: all scotch is whiskey, but all whiskey is not scotch. If I say I don't like scotch because it's too peaty that doesn't mean I dislike all whiskey. They are different things. ",
"I remember Democrats started using it a lot leading up to the 2016 election — afaik it mainly referred to the Russian disinformation campaign that spread fake news stories across social media.",
"Yes, especially those who pander to racists for power.\n\nHyperbole is a part of politics. This is a sign made by a private citizen. Remember when Trump said that Obama literally founded ISIS? Didn't see you wringing your hands then.",
"Because these liberals hate Jews as well",
"Trump has definitely had the chance to change things, and has executed. Obama is for extreme regulation and high corporate tax rates, hence why companies were leaving the country for more profitable areas to operate, as well as stashing cash outside the US in tax havens. Those regulations and tax rates have been rolled back, and surprise surprise companies have started coming back, repatriating cash, issuing bonuses, dictated clear plans for increased headcount, etc. Because of this, the market is on fire because people have more disposable income, and companies can invest in themselves or their employees. This is all Trump and conservative economics. \n\nOn top of the booming economy, individual mandate repealed, ISIS caliphate has been dismantled, revived NASA and prioritized space research, historic lows of illegal immigration, exiting of several awful deals that screwed over American and its people (e.g. TPP, Paris Agreement), 81 signed legislative accomplishments, record number of judicial appointments, and in general moving away from identity politics and political correctness. All in year 1. \n\nI respect that you may not agree with the policies, but to paint him as a lazy golfer is just ridiculous. Honestly, if he was golfing as much as you think he is, that makes these accomplishments all the more impressive. ",
"\"Lol try harder bud you really aren’t fooling anyone.\"\n\n\n\n\"It is a brand of trolling essentially, just with more nuance.\"\n\n\"nuance\"\n\n\n...okay, I guess.\n\n\n",
"Yeah cuz a Nazi would recognize that jerusalem as isreals capital...",
"Don't forget that it was his opponents who started this whole fake news thing to attack him.",
"\"Fake but accurate\" - Democrats since G.W. Bush",
"HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST YOU DUMB FUCK",
"Well then they're idiots. How fucking dumb do you have to be to think that when people compare Trump to Hitler they're suggesting what he has done is as bad as everything Hitler has ever done? They're comparing him to Hitler during the build up to those bad things, they're saying \"Look! Look where this behavior can lead! This is what we were warned about for decades! We need to do something now before it's too late, the Germans didn't and look what happened!\"",
"My point is if you can say “I believe the sun will rise tomorrow” you can also say “I’m an atheist”. You don’t need absolute certainty for faith and it’s nitpicking to say “You aren’t an atheist because you leave .000001% chance of god existing”. ",
"Unsubscribed. ",
"Sitting inside without a job on my computer all day gives me comfort, but it's still stupid.\n\nCheckmate",
"Yes, Germany in 1936 was a Trumpian wonderland.",
"'Everyone I don't like is Hitler' - all liberals in the year 2018",
"You can still suffer consequences from something that isn't your fault. It sucks that their parents broke the law but just because they were dealt a shit hand doesn't mean they get a free mulligan.",
"Unfortunately it is tough to tell these days.",
"I mean, Trump is a bad president, but narcissism and genocidal megalomania are two different things.",
"Actually fake “Ü”s",
"Still not as bad as Obama wiretapping journalists. ",
"They can say anything. Look at where they were 20-30 years ago. Here I picked a random year from my childhood and did a quick google search:\n\n> 1988[edit]\nAround 500 Klan members, neo-Nazis and other white supremacists rallied at Marquette Park on August 28, 1988. They displayed Nazi flags and were separated by over 900 officers from a group of about 200 counter-protestors. Several hundred local white residents cheered on the Klan members and chanted \"white power\" while attempting to confront the counter-protestors. A third group of about 300 protestors held a later rally at the park to honor Dr. King. Fourteen people were arrested throughout the day, mostly for disorderly conduct, but no violence occurred between the groups,[24][25] however, Klan sympathizers did attempt to attack a headphones-wearing black man who accidentally stumbled into the Klan rally.[26]\n\nThat's clearly much more massive than Charlottesville and yet there was no violence since the police were doing their job by separating the groups and not pushing them together. The hysteria over Nazis is politically driven. There is no rising threat of Nazis.",
"**LITERALLY**",
"Fake News Media. Jesus, creepily similar.",
">Trump definitely has the potential to be dangerous, and could make some seriously harmful mistakes, but in terms of political ideology he's on the opposite side of the spectrum to Hitler.\n\nThis is incorrect. Nazism took elements from both right-wing and left-wing ideologies, but it's overall an example of the extreme right. Describing it as \"socialist\" because they were the \"national socialists\" is flat-out fallacious.",
"Ok then what do you believe? You believe our Government as we know it will be flipped upside down in 7 years? You believe all of our checks and balances to minimize the President’s authority will all be wiped away?",
">Nope, that's just what you tell yourself to dismiss\n\nExcept he literally said this sub is SJW because it's anti-trump. Though, you're right wing so I assume you're pretty good at humongous leaps in logic to save face.\n\n",
"Why dont you move to the part of the world where sexual assaults dont happen. ",
"Mods here are fucking laughable",
"Pretty sure he was compared to Stalin at least a few times.",
"You don't know anything about history you fucking moron. Fascism is by nature a right wing philosophy. ",
"Are those 2 freckles in that taint?",
"Being German doesn't grant you some superior knowledge on this subject. I'm Jewish and I've studied the topic quite a bit. Hitler's rise to power does not and cannot match Trump's. Germany's political system at the time was far easier to corrupt. It's not possible for Trump to just \"sign away\" the other branches of legislation. It can't happen and it won't happen. Nationalism =/= Nazi. Sure he's an ass but he's not Hitler.",
"Japan killed 24 million unarmed Chinese... so there’s that number.",
"You're perceived comparison is overblown. If you're right, you're right. No need to prove your point to me. ",
"It's really fucked that people as scared and as hateful as you exist. It sucks that you get off on hurting others. ",
"Capitalism is not failing. Too much greed and unchecked balances are the issue.",
"That Reddit is pushing a political agenda??? \n\nNoooo",
"Relevant username.",
"I mean technically speaking it is a picture.",
"I will join the atheists if they kick the certain ones out.",
"> If you choose not to immigrate legally, then one of the consequences is that you face the threat of being uprooted from the life you set up here\n\nArpaio wasn't just harassing illegal immigrants though. He was harassing anyone who looked Latino. That's the point.",
"First of all it's probably not a good idea to ever change your ways based on the ramblings of a random on the internet. Secondly, to be clear I wasnt defending the \"nazi trump\" sentiment. Though to some extent it is true, it is extreme. What is important to realize is the similarity in tactics and beginnings. Hitler was the savior to so many people and they loved him. He was hot headed, and call fake news etc. He lead people to not know what to believe so his words had more merit to them. He lead people to hate anyone who was not like them. You can see humble beginnings here. Just like with trump it's humble beginnings. I highly doubt (and hope) trump will ever reach the incredibly extreme case of Hitler endgame, but these tactics are simply eerily similar and it is important to be self aware in the now before its too late. That's why we record history. ",
">intentional fake news articles being disseminated by foreign entities\n\nOhh, like the Russian dossier \"leaked\" by British MI6 Christopher Steele. You know, the dossier which our government finished investigating, then made a summary of their investigation's findings as a memo. The memo which hasn't been released to the public. ",
"They’re the same people who have a serious misunderstanding of what /r/pics is",
"Trump is literally Hitler",
"Which we are currently losing. Do you really think every country in the world is going to just do what we say for fear of our military power? Stop living in the past. Power now comes from global trade. If we try to dictate that and get told to fuck off, we will lose. The bubble is the one you people live in where you'll blame the rest of the world when we get left behind instead of blaming yourselves.",
"Well he said it after he won, so...\n\nAnd I doubt he’ll win in 2020, he has record high disapproval for this stage of the term.",
"If they would stop being so damn fake, then I would agree, but till then Trump has a point. The man has always and will always fight back against his professional critics. 100% of the time. Hes not really doing anything other pointing out how awful they are. Relax, we still have freedom of the press.",
"Fuck whoever compares Trump to fucking Hitler.",
"Then you're agnostic ",
"You don't really have a point.",
"Nah just that its literally in their religion and ideology to slaughter gays in the streets and stone women for not wearing headscarves. Oh not to mention they'd really prefer if everyone where they live was also converted to their way of life.",
"Look at you being all prejudice. God forbid someone have a different viewpoint than you! smh ",
"You can only take bias so far before it becomes outright lies. By your own argument, you could tell any lie you wanted as long as a single sentence in the story was correct",
"Those are \"fake news sites\", not \"fake news\" sites aren't they?",
"Trumps not my favorite president, but until he starts using the military to take over europe, and starts systematically eradicating entire races of people through labor camps and gas chambers, i wont take the comparison seriously. ",
"I agree.",
"\"OMG Trump is literally Hitler\" \nFucking liberal retads think anything that they don't like is Hitler and or nazis.",
"This a million times over.",
"This kids, is why we study history- doomed to repeat itself and all that. ",
"Found the russian troll.",
"Its not a Reddit thread until someone makes a slippery slope fallacy and then gets upset when someone uses a straw man fallacy on them. ",
"For me this is not about saying Trump is like Hitler, but more about showing that he uses the same or very similar mass influencing tactics like the Nazis in the 1930s.",
"I mean I think they are very different. Concentration camps primary victims were folks that were part of their country or controlled areas rather than people residing in a country that was still actively fighting. \n\nCivilian killing is terrible even compared to war, but when it happens as part of an offensive strike against an enemy nation that’s par for the course. When countries turn on their own or on those that have already been defeated that’s a whole different level of fucked up. \n\n",
"[There are plenty of them, so take your pick.](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list)",
"Pretending that a perfectly normal fist bump is a \"terrorist fist jab\" is a deliberately malicious lie.\n\nPretending that dijon mustard is in any way remarkable is a deliberately malicious lie.\n\nPretending that wearing a tan suit is in any way controversial is a deliberately malicious lie.\n\nBias would be overplaying real but minor controversies. That's not what Fox News did. They made up controversy where none existed. They lied, deliberately, repeatedly, and maliciously.",
"He was a fascist, a socialist fascist. His party was the **NATIONAL SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY** ",
"You cant have goot comments and not be banned from t_d...",
"which non-fascists regimes have such widespread campaigns to discredit multiple national news outlets?",
"CNN?! *CENTRIST*?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA \n\nYeah the fuck right. They’re so left leaning if they leaned anymore to the left they’d be lying on the fucking floor. ",
"Being human doesn't grant you the right to break a country's laws without repercussion, that's a stupid argument. I personally really liked DACA as a concept, but in implementation it was terrible because of the ridiculous executive overreach. Even if the program is loved by everyone, if it affects current laws it needs to go through the legislature.",
"Twitter as well. Basically all social media.",
"I never see anyone comparing him to Hitler I only see concern that fascist regimes always start like Trumps. It's absolutely based on historical precedent and not a direct comparison. Go read some articles about Germany in the run up to WW2 and you will see why people like myself are worried. Trying to discount the threat because he's not gassing people yet isn't the point, imagine what Stephen Miller would do given absolute power? I don't think that would go well.",
"Drumpf is literally hitler......\n\nEvery time I think the cons wear that meme out, you absolute fucking idiots justify it. It is a constant cycle of disappointment.",
"Republicans voted against the CR too, and Trump shot down the bipartisan agreement. But sure, keep spouting the obviously fake \"it was the Ds.\"",
"You seem to want to add lots of qualifiers to my statements. Perhaps take them at face value?",
"Trump is not Hitler. He’s more of a ‘Diet Fascist’ like Mussolini.\n\nhttp://www.oxfordtoday.ox.ac.uk/interviews/trump-no-hitler-–-he’s-mussolini-says-oxford-historian#",
"Which is funny because many of them claim to be socialists, and we know who was a socialist",
"So who forced these people to leave in the first place? I understand if theyre leaving gang violence (hence shithole) and can file under refugee status, but if theyre leaving to get a better job in America, then its their countries fault for not being economically viable",
"Come the fuck on.. Are we Tumblr?\n\nThe state of America today isn’t even *remotely* close to the state of Germany between WWI and WWII. At least learn your god damn history before making the assumption that “anything can happen, therefore Trump will start exterminating Mexicans and Muslims,” like some people here. \n\nEDIT: Just to make it clear, I’m not claiming to quote you above. I’m saying “unless you’re an oracle, who knows” is a weak argument. ",
"If you don’t get it ignore it, it isn’t for you anyway.",
"I've been paying attention for the last 60 or so years, so I may know a thing or two that you don't. \n\nI live in the midst of a population that fetish-worships the use of force, and collects weapons on the fantasy that they will use them to kill their neighbors \"to protect my family\" when uprisings or social disruption happen. What they will actually be used for, if that day comes, is to round up, terrorize, or straight up murder everyone who isn't \"us\", that is, isn't a straight, white, right-wing authoritarian.\n\nI listen to religious leaders demonize more than half their fellow citizens, creating hatred and fear, to try to gain political on monetary power. They do this to adoring, energetic, sometimes frenzied crowd.\n\nI heard the sitting Vice President of the United States tell military troops that his political opponents were the enemy holding the safety of America hostage, while they were in uniform, on duty, on a military base.\n\nI live in mainstream America. You apparently haven't seen much of the world and don't have a lot of experience with your own country.\n",
"The left has called EVERY Republican president (and candidate IIRC) Hitler.",
"He's not the one trying to overthrow an election and shutting down a government over criminals. ",
"CNN hmm\n\nEdit: Why are you booing me? I’m right!",
"Except the media often lies or is wrong so...",
"You racists are the reason Trump won and will win in 2020.",
"Good point, thank you :)\n\nI tend to not deal or at least not argue with those people, so my chance to evoke someones anger by mixing those terms up is small, but still good to know",
"Yes you have nearly none and a very strong selection as a cause of 9/11 where 3000 people died if you remember. You can however just look at statistics and polls from their home countries or europe what their values are and how they differ from yours, which I would strongly recommend, especially as american where you don't have any hands on experience. ",
"Mass murder is okay because it's random rather than picking a specific enemy?\n\nTerrorist mass murder at random to spread terror.\n\nWe label them an enemy combatant and invade an entire region attempting to eradicate them.\n\nYou can turn an argument anyway you like but the morality is going to be based on individuals opinions.",
"So then what's an atheist by your explicit definition in terms of belief or lackthereof and knowledge of existence of god?",
"How is it going to repeat itself ",
"> Secondly, NK doesn't have access to the GPS network. Meaning an actual missile attack would be inaccurate at long range. Like, severely so. Because the missile won't know where it is, and all guidance will have to be calculated in advance. Across an ocean.\n\nWell, no worries then! If they'll only hit Philadelphia after aiming at NYC, I guess there's literally nothing to be concerned about whatsoever. \n\nUnless, of course, you're not a fucking moron and you realize that pinpoint accuracy isn't necessarily the most concerning part of a nuclear attack.\n\nAnd that's all assuming you have the faintest fucking clue what you're talking about wrt ballistic missile accuracy in the first place.",
"Yip yip yip yip yip yip",
"Quit projecting. Fake news was referred to news that was blatantly false to be spread on social media to evoke a emotional reaction. Not news that makes our leader sad.",
"And if you do, you're a trans-gay-black-illegal-muslim giving free abortions. The scarriest thing the GOP can imagine.",
"*Marx",
"It's all true though. It's not a smear when anyone can just google the validity of the insult.\n\nAre liberals just supposed to ignore all the shit he says and does because calling it out for what it is might offend some conservatives?\n\nI thought conservatives were against Political Correctness? Or are they just agains PC for the shit *they* say and not the other way around? ",
"#Because the shills realised everyone filters out /r/politics and /r/worldnews",
"http://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5\n\nLooks like some media is worse than others.",
"Well, the takeaway from all of this is anything can be taken out of context to prove a point.\n\nI think OP actually thinks what he's saying though.",
"Are you sure? It's r/pics, lots of Trump cult members here. ",
"Oh look, a T_Der saying not to generalize people. Good one! Now call the rest of Reddit a bunch of cucked libtard shills and REEEEEEE about tendies.",
"And the president is to blame for sexual assault ? ",
"> Look, both the Sun and my room's lamp give light, doesn't mean it's on the same scale or that they share any other attribute.\n\nThis is literally the first thing I said. Reading comprehension skills are useful, just saying.",
"**NATIONAL SOCIALIST GERMAN WORKERS PARTY**",
"“Educate yourself” - Guy who can’t spell or use basic grammar ",
"I agree with that, but there were definitely saying Trump was Hitler 2.0 back during the election and for a while after.",
"The other side would however say that Poland started the war by refusing Germany's proposal for a railroad to go via Danzig",
"You're reading too much fake news my friend.",
"Ä",
"CNN litterally gave her debate questions ahead of time. ",
"I agree, people (especially kids) should suffer consequences from something that isn't their fault.",
"Are you mentally retarded? This is the second post of mine you've replied to me - repeating, verbatim, a part of something I posted.",
"You do realize that I said that the hardcore leftists were the brainwashed ones correct? No where did I say that anything not “far right” was “brainwashed hardcore leftism” but figures you’re going immediately for the “alt right” approach. Truthfully I’m Libertarian leaning. I have friends that have many values. The problem I’m mentioning with those completely absorbed with the left is that they never hear another opinion. The popular news outlets and schools are like echo chambers for their ideals. If you use identity politics and are going to immediately group me into having a certain set of “alt right” beliefs, that’s false. Everyone has their own set of individual beliefs and if they don’t they probably need to think more for themselves. I am a Libertarian at heart with some liberal values and some conservative values (albeit more conservative than liberal) but go on and call me alt right because I took issue with something you seem to approve of\nEdit: My original post was to show that people could have different beliefs and points of view and not to start an argument, but you immediately decided to target me ",
"I sincerely wish her and your family good luck! ",
"Well when you’re right you’re right. ",
"Just because he posts in /r/t_d doesn't invalidate what he's saying. As well as the fact that this doesn't belong here",
"Republicans are great at criticising others of what they are guilty of. It distracts from their crimes. \"Liberal tribalism.\" \"Hillary colluding with Russians.\" Ad infinitum.",
"You don't understand; these people are brown. Something has to be done.",
"Yea, didn't CNN start it and then it complteely backfired?",
"> I'd assume you wouldn't want to be deported to any other country and leave your family and what you've built here behind, regardless of how great that country is. I suggest you learn some empathy.\n\nWell I would never be deported because my family immigrated here legally and became citizens. I do have empathy for people who come here and do things the right way, not sneak over the border and live off of others their whole lives. ",
"You: \"If you hate the candidate who won a minority of the vote, you hate America!\"\nAlso you: \"the candidate who won a majority of the vote in your country will be gone soon, do whatever you can to get him out\" Your account has to be a satire of conservatives, right?",
">Hop the boarder\n\n>Get kicked out\n\nLiterally Hitler.",
"R/circlejerk is a paradox",
"no point. If you believe these things then there is nothing I can say to change your mind. These are all so easily refuted that you obviously will not be persuaded even with facts.",
"I don’t really follow politics in depth so I never really felt I could say one way or another if the fake news thing is real. However, I am tax attorney/tax preparer so I actually understand the new tax law and the way the media has twisted and presented the new tax reforms made me lose any faith in the media I ever had. I now understand and believe fake news is real.\n\nFurthermore, i find the comparison of trump to hitler to completely minimize the suffering and horrors of the victims of ww2, regardless it you are pro or anti trump, and people making that comparison should be ashamed.",
"He won’t reply\n\nHe incorrectly called me a racist piece of shit yesterday and won’t back down\n\nSome people just think they are so morally superior that they don’t have to answer to anybody when they do something as bad as cast aspersions on their character.\n\nIn short, he is a cunt",
"Then it would be to late.",
"Christ. Go (re)watch Shindler's List. You clearly need a recap of the atrocities committed during the Holocaust, as ordered by Hitler. \n\nGo watch it and come back with a serious face telling me Trump is \"in the same ballpark politically\". \n\n",
"Sorry, I should have said \"white nationalist\". If you think trumps image includes anyone regardless of skin color then you're either ignoring the truth or too stupid to see it.",
"No, plenty of ones comparing him to Hitler.",
"BAN PICTURES OF PROTEST SIGNS. THEY'RE JUST PICTURES OF TEXT. THEY SUCK.",
"> I will change my ways.\n\nYa and I'll wear a red hat if you give me a good reason to believe this president cares about anything but himself.\n\nGeorge Washington: \n\n\"The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.\n\nIt serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.\"\n\nAnother historical take:\n\nThe cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”\n\nThe rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”\n\nThe cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”\n\nDisagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”\n\nFear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”\n\nAppeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”\n\nThe obsession with a plot. “The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia.”\n\nThe enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”\n\nPacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”\n\nContempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”\n\nEverybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”\n\nMachismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”\n\nSelective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”\n\nUr-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”\n\n- Umberto Eco",
"Yes. Kool Aid and the beverage industry are mega relevant here. Seriously tho. Whatd I miss?",
"Branding something as \"an enemy of the people\" in an official statement is attempting to undermine their legitimacy, with the end goal being to silence them or at least minimize their impact on the population.",
"Basically selecting for the most gullible group. ",
"Fine, it happens everywhere, but that doesn’t mean it’s unpreventable. I sure as fuck don’t know how to reduce the rate other than more severe punishment for it, but it’s just an example that everything still has room to improve massively.",
"No not really. I mean more the part of knowing how to play to his audience. AH knew what to say to the people to get them riled up, and so does Trump.",
"Hitler - killed millions of people.\nTrump - Said things some don't find appropriate. \n\nFunny picture. I'm glad we have the right to have stupid signs.",
"German Neonazis still shout \"Lügenpresse\" today. They seem so idiotic doing it. ",
"That’s not catering to anyone’s feelings, that’s just posting politics on non-political subs.",
"no .... pre ww2 Germany was loosing market share and had trading deficit.\nMost growth was achieved by high depts and bonds.\nManual labour was heavily enforced by the state, which obviously help low skilled labour but this is not something you do when your economy is running hot.\n\nOviously racism played a big part of it all BUT this was not the only reason he was able to raise to power.\n\nRead up a little... this is so much more complex then you might realise.",
"Reddit would never do that!!",
"What circlejerk alternate reality are you people living in? Literally every front page post about Oprah is about what a terrible candidate she would be and how it would legitimize running talk show host/reality show rich celebrities for major office.",
"people aren't joking when they say liberals turn anything into a shithole.\n\nEven /r/pics are full of political filth",
"Oh the irony, if Trump were anything like hitler these vapid moron wouldn't have the ability to make stupid comparisons as the gestapo would arrest them. ",
"Forgot a few didn't you: https://imgur.com/a/d0BPn\n\nPlease provide sources instead of opinion. Sources of these figures are at the bottom of the picture ",
"I wonder if anyone will actually address the journalist bias that exists outside the FoxNews media bubble or the shotty reporting and dangerous publishing that occurs when hit pieces are written and reported as 'fact' to only be retracted days later after clicks and views have been cashed in. Or the fact there is big business angling or tinting your reporting of facts to play towards your demographic (CNN) instead of simply presenting the facts and allowing the audience to decide for themselves. \n\nIn highschool about 10 years, our PoliSci class spent a good amount of timing criticizing Fox New's use of 'fair and balanced' to highlight their obvious reporting bias. I remember asking my teacher at the time why we didn't apply the same critical lens to other news outlets, I was looked at like I was an idiot. Little did I know.",
"That's not what I meant and you know it.",
"No Hitler sent 11 million to their deaths in various ways\n\n\n\nThe war total is 50M+",
"Sentiments like this are why Trump got elected, I hope you know. \n\n",
"Yes, exactly. ",
"So, funny story about that. During the school year I held a job managing a small marketing office that mostly focuses on outreach for insurance agencies. It's mostly phone work so we've got a bunch of people hanging around calling up businesses local to our clients to find out if they shop insurance, and if so, when. Kinda telemarketing with the benefit of taking no for an answer and moving on without bugging people and all that. Well, Comet Ping Pong came up on the lists for one of our clients, and they were super rude to our callers over and over. We were happy to take no for an answer, but you had to say \"no\" or else we'd just assume you were busy or having a bad day and call you another time. Well they hung up on our callers 4-5 times. Well, that's when it hit us, that we were calling THE Comet Ping Pong from the pizzagate scandal. Mind you, this is right around the time that guy got fuckin shot in there.\n\nThe kicker? Our program was a square footage based approach to restaurant business insurance. Restaurants typically pay based on a sales receipts audit at the end of the year, effectively taxing them for success/revenue. Our program was a flat charge based on sq footage, really good for most high volume restaurants without tons of floor space. So we were calling this restaurant, these poor bastards with terrible luck with the misfortune of getting caught in the eye of this national hurricane centered on whether they have kids raped in their basement. People would go in and demand to see the basement. They had no basement. And then some insurance fuckers call up asking about the square footage of the restaurant. It hit us pretty quick why they kept hanging up. We left them alone.",
"> Progress was still being made... EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE FUCKING WORLD\n\nProgress was still being made in Europe in that time too. In fact, Christianity may have spurred a lot of scientific exploration by the idea of \"exploring creation to the glory of God.\" Of course, there were times where the traditionalists were reactionary to new discoveries, but that's happens with every dogma; it even happens a lot in science, so much that there's a saying that goes like \"science advances one funeral at a time.\"\n\n>Religion takes over when... science doesn't get done\n\nI'd argue it's more that philosophy hasn't \"got it done.\" Religion is potent and ubiquitous because it provides humans with purpose and assurance in their existence. Looking at life from a purely scientific view, frankly it's nihilistic and depressing since it basically considers humans water-filled meat sacks whose purpose is to produce ATP and procreate. Developing philosophy and other humanities are needed to provide that sense of purpose or higher calling or whatever that replaces religion.",
"Were gonna build a wall, and we’re gonna make /r/politics pay for it. ",
"you ever live in an apartment complex with a fire alarm that goes off often? eventually you just learn how to sleep through a fire alarm.",
"Almost as idiotic as American liberals ",
"You are absolutely correct. But, people said equally ridiculous things about Obama. And equally ridiculous things will always be said.",
"I'm sure we need to know about hillarys emails!",
"\"everyone I don't like is Hitler\"\n\n-/r/pics ",
"Doesn’t work for the official reddit app on iOS.",
"You keep using words that I'm not sure you know what they mean. There was no \"widespread campaign\". He's posted on twitter about it and mentioned it in his public speaking. That does not fit any definition of \"campaign\".",
"Yes, Jews were being killed for being Jews in Europe pre-WW\n\n\nAnd no, not as a whole, but a good majority held similar views to exterminate jews, otherwise how else in less than 6 years the people of Germany were alright with genocide?",
"Like he will ever have the same power Hitler did. I really doubt the other 2 branches of the government will give up their power. Also good luck trying to pass a constitutional amendment that will give the president that kind of power.",
"You could say this about Obama, Clinton , Sanders, Bush etc. which by the way is what happens in every presidency . If I used hitler leadership tactics, does that make me like him?",
"It’s true. Name a quality place to live run by liberals",
"You first.\n\nFox lies the most out of all \"legacy\" news entities. Trump's administration is by far the most corrupt. Once we deal with them we can fix the other problems but right now the \"both sides\" rhetoric is just being used to defend those with no ethics against those with at least some.",
"Except most mainstream outlets have had to publish multiple retractions on negative Trump stories. They routinely source \"anonymous sources\" or sometimes even \"people familiar with the subject\" or \"people familiar with Trump's thinking.\" Couple that with the fact 90% of the press is negative it is hard to say it isn't fake news.",
"Godwin's Law was repealed when?",
"You know you can compare two things or people without equating them...\n\nSo you can say \"Trump is like Hitler in that he wants to delegitimize the media\" and not \"Trump is literally Hitler\"",
"What's your point? ",
"Lol (by migrants imported by their shit leader) ",
"They literally both dismissed bad news as false. Trumps not organizing a genocide, but they both use some identical antidemocratic active measures. That’s all",
"Trump obviously isn't as bad as Hitler. The point is that Trump uses the same anti-press rhetoric that dictators have historically used as a means of silencing any opposition. The comparison being drawn here is addressing the disturbingly authoritarian stance that Trump has taken with any news outlet that criticizes him, regardless of said outlet's credibility.",
"* Who recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel? ",
"Borrowed this but yea: \n\nHow fucking dumb do you have to be to think that when people compare Trump to Hitler they're suggesting what he has done is as bad as everything Hitler has ever done? They're comparing him to Hitler during the build up to those bad things, they're saying \"Look! Look where this behavior can lead! This is what we were warned about for decades! We need to do something now before it's too late, the Germans didn't and look what happened!\"",
"They didn't co-opt shit, the meaning remained the same over the years: accusing the press of being hostile towards you for political reasons. Everyone did it back then and does it again nowadays.\n\nBesides, leftists use the term unironically as well when it comes to Fox, Breitbart, Rebel Media ect.. \n\nIt's like saying vegetarianism is inheritly fascist because Hitler was a vegetarian. Or boyscouts. Or environmental protection. Or highways. ",
"[every time there's a republican president](http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/4/3698/same-shit-different-asshole.jpg)\n\n[every time there's a democrat president](http://www.apfn.org/images/images3/DC30.jpg)",
"Then you know that none of that happened right? Obama didn't wiretap a political opponent. That's your first point and it's false. \n\nThe dossier isn't \"fake.\" Many of its contents have actually been proven true. \n\nBut you know this right? Only Infowars and Breitbart level news are still pushing those false claims. ",
"The thing is, when CNN, for instance, go beyond their journalistic duty and proclaim Trump is a fiend and his voters are all idiots, they loose all integrity without the need for Trump to call them out.\n\nTrump is good at one thing, and that is garnering attention. Him screaming fake news is one method he uses for getting that attention.\n\nThe media is not unbiased on either the left or the right. But calling names and playing the blame game is not the job of ANY media outlet worth their salt.\n\nYou absolutely cannot compare Trump to Hitler, it just isn’t the same - this is not the 1930s. These tactics only further enrages the Trump electorate and galvanises his position. \n\nIf you want to effect any change, get out of your bubble and genuinely engage with the Trump electorate, you might learn something, even if you don’t like it.\n\nEdit: obviously, I get negative karma for viewing this from as open an angle as possible. Trump supporters obviously think I don’t support his presidency, and Democrats being a bunch of fucking cry babies because I’m using logic to explain their idiocy. Fuck you Reddit.",
"Every thread*",
"Scared? Lol you fucking soybois always projecting. No one is scared, we are tired of paying insane amounts for healthcare just because the Democrats realized they can't win an election without millions of illegal votes. ",
"So you don't think any illegal border crosser has committed rape ever? You don't think the Mexican drug cartels illegally cross the border. Quit being naive! ",
"If you think Trump actually wants a war, you need to turn off the fake news.",
"About your black swan fallacy - conservatives just want to bring current laws more in line with the constitution. They don't want to do something terrible that'd qualify as a black swan sort of thing. The \"worst\" thing I can think of, for example, is enforcing our immigration laws and letting DACA die. But that isn't even bad, it's our century-old constitutional law to respect borders and the immigration process. ",
"America should absolutely put America first. Every country should put themselves first",
">Everyone should watch Rachel Maddow\n\nAre you trolling?",
"Thank you! Lots of vitriol in this thread, glad to see some friendly well-wishers. :)",
"This is so retarded.",
"That's a false equivalency, because in your example there is a victim who is now without their mobile home and deserves to have it back. \n\nThe thing with Dreamers is that their presence here is typically a net positive - at least that's the argument of supporters. \n\nWe could just as easily say that every person of European ancestry is living here without justification, and only Native Americans 'deserve' to be here. ",
"Our economy is booming. Minority unemployment is at a massive low. To be honest, things are going really well. But for some reason, the outlets and aggregates are all trying to convince everyone that this is the worst time in American history. It's almost as if they hate prosperity. Really makes one think...",
"Ya? Are they gassing people there, or just gunfire executions?",
"*Hitler's face placed next to Trumps on poster*\n\nYou: \"Guys! This isn't comparing Trump to Hitler!\"",
"How exactly was this an argument to what the other guy said? Your use of the word balance is really stupid. \n\n\"Reddit is left leaning\"\n\n\"No they're not, we just have more left leaning users!\"",
"Should have had “Lying prez” under “Fake news”.",
"Could y'all stop stroking each others fucking cocks about trump.We get it",
"The Nazis weren't left wing in the slightest. If you think they were because their party was \"national socialist\" then you fell for literal Nazi propaganda. ",
"Obviously not, that’s an example of how things can always be better. People that live in first world countries have it a lot better for sure, but our lives are far from perfect.",
"How many times do you think I’ve been linked that article from people as yourself who think it’s a “gotcha!”? ",
"No, I'm not talking about biker gangs selling meth, [im talking about trump supporter right wing terrorists](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/militia-terror-plot-fbi-kansas_us_58014995e4b0162c043c1e90)",
"Way to avoid addressing the actual point made. ",
"Jesus Christ, they both spout the same idiotic rhetoric, their followers both are brainwashed lunatics, and they both are incredibly right wing. Hitler's atrocities are absolutely terrible, that doesn't mean that trump and hitler didn't/don't spout the same right wing fanatic nonsense. ",
"If you want to don't to lead a discussion you don't have to respond.",
"That’s the thing, they don’t care if it puts their reputation at stake because their idiot readers will believe anything they print. The first example that Washington post uses is the economy, which is clearly being booming *because* of Trump, and saying that he’s had nothing to do with it. I’d be weary of anything on that list because of how easy they can twist it. The fact is, they hate the president so much that they’ll literally say anything to discredit him.",
"He hasn't mass murdered anybody yet.",
"To be fair, Bush never attempted to goad anybody into a nuclear exchange over social media",
"Mostly because what you call 'communists' are Marxist-Leninists. A very specific continuation of Classical Marxism, which is only one of several umbrella categories of Marxism, which is only one of multiple far-left schools of thought. \n\nMost of the time when people bring up 'communism' it's not to criticize actual Marxist-Leninists, it's usually to criticize social democrats (who arent even socialist, let alone marxist) or libertarian socialists (many of whom aren't Marxist and none of which are Marxist-Leninist).\n\nPutting Stalin, Sanders and anarchists in the same basket is about as stupid as putting Rand Paul, Donald Trump, and Mussolini in the same basket. It's ridiculous.",
"The term fake news was created and pushed by the media at the same time that pizzagate started to get traction. It's almost as if they were trying yo hide all thisncreepy pedo shit in Hollywood ",
"Can we not post politicaly charged pictures here. Most of these poster pictures are just text.",
"One of the two men pictured had a vision and was objectively intelligent. ",
"https://imgur.com/a/d0BPn",
"You mean she's a perfectly stable, contributing member of society? How soon can we deport her?\n\nThe resources being used to target people who (for the most part) are contributing members of our society blows my mind.\n",
"People are taking advantage of the legal “drawbridge” by entering the country illegally? And this is harming legal immigrants? Wat. Illegal immigration hasn’t really affected immigration quotas all that much other than lowering those for Central American nations. H1B’s are being used more than ever, skilled immigration is at an all time high. Who is being harmed? What legal applicants are not getting through? The immigration lottery, which everyone suddenly hates, is such small potatoes in the grand scheme of things, both in terms of the budget it requires and the limited number of recipients. The fact that your “Mexican friends” want a wall doesn’t mean dick. The majority of illegal immigrants are no longer from Mexico, but rather countries that Mexicans look down on like Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala. Ever listen to the Cubans in South Florida talk about wet foot/dry foot for Haitians? People always want to pull the ladder up behind them. The wall you want will cost more than all costs illegal immigration bears on the taxpayer for the next 25 years, and it’s effect on immigration is likely limited. This is all conjecture and feelings. ",
"Lots of other allegations, nothing as on the nose as the grabbing comment.",
"lol ok. you're either dumb or being willfully ignorant ",
"https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/9/8/16270040/trump-clinton-supporters-racist\n\nPeople pissed off about political correctness.",
"Both disseminated lies to their audience with no shame or any admittance of wrong doing after being proven to do so.\n\nBoth rose to power on a reactionary nationalist and xenophobic platform (yes , trump's platform was full of xenophobia) : blaming the rest of the world , the elites (ironically enough in trump case, he's fucking part of the elite) and \"socialists\" (except there were actual communists and socialists around in 1930s germany) for everything wrong in their broken societies (except, again, germany was actually in a pretty rough shape and america REALLY isn't)\n\n\nBoth were considered clowns by the intellectual elites who thought they would never actually win an election\n\nThey also both tried to make the party more subservient to their ideology by discrediting even those among the party that didn't fall 100% in line, this is already happening in trump land . Of course hitler also literally slaughtered a huge chunk.\n\nIn both cases the people were also told that the mainstream \"conservative\" right would rein in the more extremist narratives and policies\n\nAnd also, as this post points out, both tried to make themselves more credible by discrediting the press that pointed out their flaws.\n\nTurns out there's quite a lot of similarities, and an hitler (or any other reactionary nationalist) comparison isn't unreasonable at all.\n\nAlso pointing out that someone is using hitler's tactics **does not necessarily equate to calling that someone \"literally hitler\"**\n\nI can't say for sure that trump will or won't do some abominable things but i do know for a fact that a lot of people thought hitler wouldn't ever either, despite the several warning signs. I don't think though trump would be able to, even if he wanted, because i seriously doubt Americans would ever let him.\n\n",
"A picture isn’t inherently political or non-political. A sub’s content is determined by its voters. If you don’t like something, downvote it. If you’re super offended (you are), block the sub and retreat to your safe space.",
"The burden of proof lies on those who make a claim, not those who refute it. He doesn't have to prove collusion didn't happen. YOU have to prove it DID.",
"It gives my grandma comfort to think that when she dies she will see her brothers and parents again. It's unkind to call her stupid for believing that is a possibility. If she's wrong then she'll never know and if she's right then she will be happy. It's not stupid to believe in god, it is stupid to look down on people for something so trivial. ",
"When Trump starts gassing millions of people, invading foreign countries, and committing any number of other atrocities, you are welcome to compare him to Hitler. Until then, you are only making yourself look sheltered and ignorant by doing so.",
"I'm not sure why people seem to think you can't compare two individuals without equating them. This is why history classes exist. We can look at what Trump is doing, and apply historical precedents to show how and why it is wrong, and we can do all of this without saying \"Trump is literally Hitler\".",
"just like comparing Trump to Hitler. Stuff like this blatantly false to be spread on social media to evoke an emotional reaction.\n\nyou just answered your own question bruh.",
"I thought Bush was Hitler? Is this like a highlander situation?",
"POTUS looking like Honey-Boo-Boo",
"The simplest way to look at this is that there is now a sliding scale of editing in the world. Old news organisations sit at one end, your average Facebook user sits at the other.\n\nAs almost nothing on social media is moderated or edited, it's safest to say that it's likely to be the most suspect. Unfortunately the old media groups have seen just how popular social media 'reporting' can be and so judicious editing and moderating becomes less important.",
"You realize that no one you're replying to mentioned Mexico, right?",
"What prejudice, I stated a fact. Would you care to address the actual point I made? You're free to express a dissenting opinion if you have one, unlike on T_D.",
"Is there a different way for Turkish? What sound does Ü make in other languages? ",
"The left eats itself. That’s why I stopped voting democratic. People like YOU. \n\nSo did a lot of people I know who voted trump. They hate people like you so much we want to elect a fucking president you HATE just to piss you off. \n\n\nEdgy username you cuck. ",
"I'm pretty sure reality doesn't give a shit about anything ",
"Hey look I can argue like the alt-right!\n\nhttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/Dv2X4VhyuFs/maxresdefault.jpg\n\nhttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/UMdlZv7MiFE/hqdefault.jpg",
"Which is how we end up with photos like the one OP posted.",
"And ultra conservatives",
"Oo... you really got him now!! Lmao. ",
"Well you guys better start moving to Canada before Trumpler starts by killing the retards.",
"Just hard to follow your incoherent rambling. Maybe if you made any sense it would be easier to understand. ",
"So you agree that North Korea is a democratic country (Democratic People's Republic of Korea)? Or are maybe the things people call themselves not necessarily fucking accurate?",
"No, you guys have just forced an echo chamber that now agrees with your biases. I remember when reddit had actual discussions and opinions from both sides without slinging shit at each other. That reddit is long gone\n\nEdit: Kek. I rest my case. Get down voted for saying how this site has gone to shit.",
"And so we should punish the children for it? \n\nShould we also kick out all people of European descent, since the Native Americans were here first and Europeans didn't just cross the border illegally but actually committed genocide?",
"Over 90% of media coverage on the president is negative",
"The mainstream media does lie though. Not to mention many other differences that makes trump nothing like hitler. ",
"Hitler- Was personally responsible for the deaths of millions, generally considered one of the worst people of all time, originator of great suffering on a worldwide scale \n\nTrump- isn’t very smart... kind of a meanie \n\nEveryone- Yep totally the same ",
"Reddit may have made you moderate, but it turned me from moderate to a HARD right. Like... really hard right.",
"Initially it was used to separate satirical\"news\" from legitimate news sources. Unfortunately Democrats/liberals started to include legitimate right-leaning sources of news and opinion in that \"fake news\" category. Conservatives saw that as an attempt to censor them, so they appropriated the term and started using it against left-wing news/opinion sources.",
"Yes I remember when other presidents said their were 3million illegal votes with no evidence and created a voter fraud commissio based on that. ",
"Sorry like you actually don't understand the study and practice of \"logic\". There are whole courses on the study of logic you can take. You will see that the argument he is making is exactly the same as the post is making. Please don't take this as me being a smart ass. I am trying to help you.",
"I understand. *kills self to the cheers of many in this thread*",
"> He started out as a genocidal anti-semite who wanted to subvert democratic control.\n\nOkay, well, Trump starting out as belligerent anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant (anti- everything brown, basically) who thought that it would be perfectly cool to kill the non-combatant families of terrorists and staunchly refused to take a first-strike nuclear attack off the table when directly pressed on it. Genocidal? Check. Subvert democratic control? He joked that Hillary's campaign was so bad that they should just \"cancel the election and give it to Trump,\" and said more seriously that he would only accept the results of the election if he won. Even after he won, he continued to insist (without a shred of evidence) that millions of illegal votes had been cast, which is a great start to placing tighter restrictions on who can vote, which is in turn a good way to subvert democratic control.\n\nI wasn't arguing that early Hitler was perfectly reasonable and sensible, the point I was making was that the people who initially put him in power weren't all rabid Jew-haters who wanted to be governed by a dictator intent on conquering Europe. I don't think the people who elected Hitler thought, \"oh yeah, this guy's gonna start the next Great War,\" so he must have seemed at least somewhat more reasonable than he ended up being, through a gradual process of subverting the checks on his power that were initially in place. \n\n> His \"interesting ideas\" about how to make Germany great again centered around expelling or eliminating the Jews and Bolsheviks.\n\nTrump's \"interesting ideas\" about how to make America great again centered around expelling or eliminating Muslims and illegal immigrants.\n\n> One of his first political acts was the Beer Hall Putsch where he was arrested for trying to lead a movement to overthrow the democratically elected government.\n\nTrump's organization was prosecuted for refusing to rent to black people, and his bid to open a casino in Australia was denied because of his mob connections. I will freely grant, it's not nearly as bad as spending five years in prison for treason (although, one wonders if Hitler might have avoided that as well, had he been as rich as Trump), but the point is that there was already evidence that Trump was a terrible person before he ever started running, just like with Hitler. Evangelicals, looking back on his long history of affairs and infidelity, just arbitrarily decided that he had changed or converted. I'm sure people said the same about Hitler. \n\nUnderstand, I'm not claiming a direct equivalence. There will never be another Hitler. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't learn the lessons of history and look for warning signs of potential fascism (there have been plenty of other fascist regimes that subverted the free press besides Hitler), just because comparing someone to Hitler is generally considered to be bad form. ",
"Any sub that pushes a candidate or political affiliation is hyper partisan, what’s the point? ",
"Including dead Americans amirite",
"> This is the second post of mine you've replied to me - repeating, verbatim, a part of something I posted.\n\nGreat observation! Are you mentally retarded?",
"So you sympathize with Stalin who killed more people? \n\nYeah you’re a smart guy.",
"How is that a false equivalence? Trump brags about how unspecific random women let him just grab their pussy.\n\n\"Mate, when I whip mine out, the ladies just line up to have a lick, I'm telling you.\" \n\n\"Ha ha ha, yeah right.\"\n\n\"Yeah, sometimes I just go up and grab em by the pussy, just like that.\"\n\n\"Uhuh, sure mate. Your mum lets me do that too, right before I...\"\n\netc.\n\nBut good to know you're such a wholesome person that you would never associate with anyone so *crass.* If you're not being intellectually dishonest, you're just straight up ignorant, dude.",
"...sentiments like \"Trump is not comparable to Hitler\"? This may be the dumbest shit I've heard on this site in a while.",
"The first person to bring hitler into an argument loses.",
"My balls have caused more death and destruction, don’t lie to yourself",
"You're fucking insane if you think that opposition of Trump is \"ultra left\". My uncle voted for a non-Republican candidate for the first time in 32 years because Trump was running.",
"I never said you have to give up your culture. Culture doesn't necessarily determine what it is to be American. But there is an evident mindset problem when people are waving foreign flags in America as their banner of loyalty.\n\nJust because someone doesn't use governmental programs doesn't mean that their presence is without downsides. ",
"If you study history, you try to learn from history. The political environment that Trump is nurturing (with his “they’re all liars, only I tell the truth” attitude) erodes productive dialogue between voters and divides us further. It’s the basis for serious abuses of power time and time again. If you don’t call it out when you see it, you’re complicit. ",
"Isn't that the point of upvoting?",
"there were two options: decimate two cities with overwhelming force with no risk to our own people killing tens of thousands, or fight a ground war to take mainland Japan killing hundreds of thousands. Remember Japanese civilians were a fighting force themselves as they were told that the evil westerners were coming to rape and torture them, in their eyes it was fight or commit suicide before that could happen. there is absolutely no correlation between choosing an option that forcefully told Japan to surrender before they were annihilated and Actively working to kill as many people as you can because they differ from you. The Axis was truly awful.",
"Well I didn’t mention InfoWars or Brietbart in my reply so I won’t really go onto that here because besides the memes I’m not familiar with them. My point was more just to show how people could think that CNN is “fake news” by what they decide to peddle. I go to a very large public university (one of the largest in the country) and trust me the ideals are very close to indoctrination. I’d liken it to something like this, “we aren’t trying to censor your speech but..... we’re going to censor your speech”. Either way thanks for an actual thought out reply. Mine was more to show how people could think different ways rather than to start an argument. ",
"Good comparison! But remind me who President Trump is killing?",
"Is the president who admitted to sexual assault a nu-male feminist then? He is objectively more rapey than any male feminist I know, since they haven't sexually assaulted people.",
"> CNN is factual though.\n\n‘Remember, it’s illegal to possess’ WikiLeaks Clinton emails, but ‘it’s different for the media,’ says CNN’s Chris Cuomo\n\nIs this factual?",
"There's a whole list of similarities, but wasting my time posting it [wouldn't change your mind](https://www.simplypsychology.org/cognitive-dissonance.html) anyway. So you just go on and have a nice day.",
"People are born to shitty parents everyday that causes them turmoil in their life but you're cherry picking which ones you care enough about to break laws. ",
"No. He means like the Pope endorsing Trump.",
"It's not up to me to make definitions, they already exist. ",
"> polls on Welt online\n\nYeah, they surely [aren‘t delivering fake news](https://i.imgur.com/uV5z4NE.jpg) and are [big on journalistic integrity](http://www.bildblog.de/93555/der-chef-interviewer-von-welt/).\n\nWelt and its readers really are a match made in heaven.",
"Yea ... nope I lost it again, sorry. ",
">I don't believe Trump is the next Hitler. But \n\nBut\n\n>The guy is racist, sexist, and homophobic.\n\ngroan\n\n>He's talked about supporting a fucking Muslim Registry\n\nNo he has not. I read the link you provided. There is nothing in there about Trump doing so. All it says is that one of his advisers supposedly had papers related to registering syrian refugees.\n\n>(Forcing a religious group to identify themselves sounds familiar doesn't it?) \n\nI thought you just said he isn't the next Hitler... and the 1st thing you do is compare him to Hitler.\n\n>He's literally attempted to ban people from entering the country based on religion.\n\nNo he did not. You realize that his \"muslim ban\" did not affect the vast majority of muslim countries, right? It's like saying a ban on Ireland thanks to IRA terrorism is a \"Catholic ban\" or a \"White ban\" when tons of other Catholic countries and White countries are unaffected.\n\n>he's dangerous because he's in a powerful position and has no respect for the democratic institutions of his country.\n\nIf he has no respect for democratic institutions, why did he run for President and campaign? Why does he complain about his enemies on twitter, instead of merely arresting/killing them like Putin? That's not what people who have no respect for democratic institutions do. \n\n>Does that mean he'll try and alter them? I don't know.\n\nLOL. Counting the days to the Reichstag fire, eh comrade?",
"Notpan's family is from Mexico you clown. Go virtue signal somewhere else.",
"Capitalism is failing? Care to elaborate on your computer over the internet? You realize all commerse is state controled in the US right? So not capitalism. Nice try though communist cancer.",
"It's infuriating. Cable news, especially Fox and MSNBC, will run opinion rants for hours every day, while the major American newspapers are still doing the incredible, fact-based, well sourced, thoughtful journalism they've been doing for decades. And somehow that translates, for so many people, to a press that sucks.",
"**Democratic People's Republic of Korea** \n \nIt's almost like what you call yourself doesn't matter, it's your policies and actions that classify what you are.",
"Tiny if certified ",
"Why don’t people realize that news and media has always been bullshit. All trump does is call them on it.",
"...No, Trump isn't going to make death camps you fucking idiot. Jesus christ. And no, Trump's ideology isn't remotely similar to Hitler's. Do you not learn history in school?",
"Holy fuck the level of reaching here is hilarious",
"Psssst... a lot of people voted for Trump because he wasn't a Clinton and he's not the Democratic golden child. The same reason that a lot people voted for Clintom because \"never Trump.\" This will contine to happen so long as we remain a nation with thousands of individual \"causes\" to vote for, but only two political parties. I go to bed every night fantasizing about the rise of a 3rd party where it's ok to smoke week, be gay, and own firearms with as big of magazines as a person wants. \n\nSo many people pick a single cause or a selet few causes that is important to them and vote accordingly. Then the other party groups them into everything that is bad about a party regardless of the reasons that individual voted. This happens on both sides of the isle. \n\nAnother major difference in early political carrer Hitler and early political career Trump: the Nazi party took guns away from the citizenship, and then took away the military's ability to vote. But thats not discussed in normal history books. You have to dig around for that story. I would suggest the biography on Rommel. Rommel: The Desert Fox, by Desmond Young. In it there's a great chapter of the \"between the wars\" years that talks about how the German Military, specifically the officer corps, got caught up in the Hitler/Nazi mess, especially when the mass majority pf them were not Nazi party members (another one of those contrary to popular belief facts.) ",
"Well the liberal argument is \n\n“Daaa Trump is the baddie racist”\n",
"And yet Melania gets to stay...",
"You think these people are capable of nuanced thought? ",
"false",
"Basically in quotes like this, hitler is projecting his own tactics onto his enemies (sound familiar?). So it actually does have the intended meaning of describing nazis, even if that's not what he had intended at the time.",
" source needed",
"He got elected because of propaganda.",
"No one's allowed to complain or stand up for their values because your country has it worse. Great. I'm sure there's a worse country than even yours so maybe you should stop complaining too. ",
"Okay, I see you decided not to work on my suggestion, so for example, my stepmom is here legally under a refugee act from the early 2000s. In the meantime, instead of just sitting around and doing nothing for 15 years, she's worked and built a life and family here, all the while working towards her citizenship (which takes time and money). Now the Trump administration is threatening her legal status under that act and she may get deported as a result.\n\nWe're working to make sure that doesn't happen, but there may not be much we can do. Even if we pull it off, there will be others who will be in similar situations and get deported nonetheless.",
"Comparing trump to hitler oh man. You guys are about as far off the deep and as people unironically calling him god emporer.",
"> and this is r/pics for Christ's sake.\n\nwhat do you think r/pics is? I've been here many years and it's always been a place where you just post photos of literally anything.",
"That's kind of a defining characteristic of the \"alt right\" though. If you think all MSM is part of the \"liberal media\" and colleges are liberal \"echo chambers\", then yeah, if the corrective shoe fits. Call yourself whatever you want but you sound like another crackpot far right nut.",
"I haven't seen anyone rounded up yet so yeah it's overblown. ",
"They sought to redistribute the wealth of the Jews, who they saw as the 1%. I will let you come to your own conclusion on which party in the US has a similar platform.",
"Godwin’s Law",
"Yet here you are",
"But the press ARE liars...",
"In an ocean of shit, it can be hard to remember a particular turd",
"Hitler sneezed once, omg so did Trump....\nThey must be twins ",
"Well it the principle the United States was founded upon whether you like it or not.",
"*shit hole",
"[try this one](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/militia-terror-plot-fbi-kansas_us_58014995e4b0162c043c1e90)",
"Because the guy called it propaganda... He was defending against that. Just because there isn't balance doesn't mean it's propaganda. It just means that more of the user base ACTUALLY THINKS THAT WAY.",
"This is an obvious troll",
"Hitler drank water. Coincidence?",
"I'll upvote but tell you that you misspelled retarded. Unless its retarded as bakery goods, hence Retarted.",
"I think us being excluded from international shit is a good thing. Seems like we were getting the short end of the stick on most of these international things that involve us paying billions of dollars with no return. ",
"Oh my God...!!! The signs were *always* there! How did I miss this!?",
"Enlighten us, then. What are the signs? The warnings? The similarities to Hitler? You must see them so clearly, yes?",
"Your points about NK aid and \"issues in the past\" are begging the question. They do not address the issue, they're just rationalizations.\n\nYour point about NK not having access to the GPS network is flat-out wrong. GPS is publicly available to everyone. You don't have to get some special government permission to use a GPS receiver, which are commercially available off the shelf.",
"You then go on to say \n\n>Trump is comparable to Hitler in some regards. They are populists that dumbed down the discourse of the time and created clear foreign and local enemies to gain the support of uneducated, disenfranchised people.\n\nAnd then I say\n\n>Come see me when Trump-critical reporters start suiciding with two bullets to the back of the head or Trump supporters start interrupting and screaming at the opposition whenever they come to speak.\n\n.\n>Reading comprehension skills are useful, just saying.\n",
"What did the world do to become so stupid?",
"Most Americans don't subscribe to jingoism, just the loudest ones tend to",
"Lol @ identical ",
"Your prejudice was looking through my post history to form your answer instead of reading what I typed and continuing the conversation ",
"I would never associate with someone who admitted to sexually assaulting someone. You're trying to strawman here, but it's not going to work. ",
"The fake news term was invented by the Hillary camp as an explanation for her failure. Trump just appropriated it. But yeah, Hitler was right about the press in his day as well. And it's totally just coincidence that in both eras, the press was mostly owned by Jews. ",
"He made a bullshit claim because he wanted to stroke his own ego. Jesus Christ, it's that simple. \n\nIs there any evidence, *at all,* that he actually ever did this to a woman? \n\nPick a better hill to die on, *please.*",
"Only among 12 year olds that have transformed Hitler into some monolithic, impossible fantasy evil rather than a real person who actually lived, came to power legitimately, and transformed the world through means well within his power and legal right.",
"You are flat out wrong. From the transcript of Trump's annoucement of his candidacy,\n\n[Thank you. It’s true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.](http://time.com/3923128/donald-trump-announcement-speech/)\n\nIf anyone is being misleading, your link to the GOP's official sponsored fake news awards is the perfect example of doing exactly that, so thank you for providing it. ",
"You mean the math I use for my professional engineering licensure? It's a little more practical than your Bachelors' in brain-teasers and money-pit doctorate because you couldn't land a job out of college with the added benefit of not perpetuating the use of environment-destroying petroleum products.\n\nPlus, any engineer worth his salt can tell you any degree past the MS/MEng is utterly useless for being an actual practicing engineer so you've definitely confirmed your lack of critical thinking skills - great job!",
"> So did a lot of people I know who voted trump. They hate people like you so much we want to elect a fucking president you HATE just to piss you off.\n\nLmao then you wonder why everybody calls you retards. Also lol @ someone non-ironically using the word cuck ",
"You mean real people?",
"You couldn't of said that more accurately.",
"The mainstream media has been shitty for decades, at least since the birth of the cable news network. I personally believed they were the enemy of the people before Trump came around and said anything. They manipulate the narrative for monetary interests and direct the course of our culture.\n\nSo I wouldn't be the best person to discuss this with, I don't think they had much legitimacy to begin with. To me, Trump saying that isn't dropping some bombshell, but rather just confirming what I already thought. My reaction is automatically different from what I assume the average public. Because of this I don't find Trump saying this stuff as particularly egregious. \n\nI think you need to have had a lot of faith in the mainstream media in order to be offended by Trump talking negatively about them.",
"Just as Hitler co-oped lügenpresse, Trump has done the exact same thing with Fake News. In fact, now Trump claims he made up the term, even though it's been around for [over 100 years](https://www.lombardiletter.com/donald-trump-start-term-fake-news/19171/).",
"That handwriting is so beautiful ",
"Uh huh. What are the characteristics exactly?",
"Yeah, whatever. Alex Jones continues to push the idea that Sandy Hook was a false-flag attack. He and his outlet aren't just \"funny,\" they're despicable, and so are people who support him.",
"He never ran on a campaign of banning all Muslims you idiot.",
"Trump's using the same rung on the despotic ladder Hitler was climbing doesn't mean Trump wants to reach the top and achieve genocide, it just means he's exhibiting despotic behavior. \n\nBy all means keep your interpretation though.",
"Just the political landscape. Same things happen on the other side. I mean have you been to t_d\n\nleft and right comments are like “haha fucking liberals and my FEE FEES. REEEEEE”\n\nLike how are you supposed to engage with people like that? \n\nEdit: Ugh guys. I’m just using t_d as an example of the people that you engage with. Not to argue in that sub. ",
"I guess we just disagree. I at least wish you'd admit that there are vast orders of magnitude in difference. I feel like your views are harmful because it's the same way of thinking that gets us to the conservatives calling CNN fake news, having fake news awards, etc. These are perspectives. You might call them illegitimate. And with Obama I would say they were racially motivated. But calling them malicious lies, I just have to disagree. And like I said I think it makes it a LOT harder to have a real convo about fake news when we go down into that way of thinking about it. I feel like it's useful to have a differentiation between them.",
"Same with ö = oe. As in Schrödinger/Schroedinger ",
"Why would I just take anything at face value? ",
"Nice false equivalence.\n\nA protestor holding up a sign stating an opinion is not the same as an article claiming secretary Clinton ran a child sex ring under a pizza shop. Which is real fake news.",
"These are by far my favorite post to see. \n\n\nCause they are just so ridiculously stupid. \n\n\"I don't agree with Trump, he has to be literally hitler\" ",
"That you're attempting to take the high ground and pretend someone else is in the wrong for having a partisan opinion, as if you are somehow above that. \n\n\nPretty simple statement, surprised you needed an explanation. ",
"Over 25 million Soviets, Jews or otherwise were killed in WW2 so that you don't have to speak German today. Overall somewhere around 80 million human beings were killed. Majority of them just innocent people, even most soldiers were enslaved/conscripted to go fight. Not sure why you have to focus on Jews exclusively as being the victims of WW2. ",
"Please do not ever grab someone without their consent. That is assault. Thus the problem people have with Trump’s comments. That is not usual locker room talk. That is talking about assault. ",
"I️ legitimately don’t understand your argument. If we are talking about 100,000 with a bomb vs 24,000,000 and a government that has no plans to stop, should it really be a choice?\n\nI️",
"how dare anyone criticize big media",
"Why are you spamming this on completely unrelated comments? ",
"dude it was a joke relax ",
"If you call someone a Nazi then you lost the argument. Simple as that ",
"> And so we should punish the children for it? \n\nI mean, we could take them with CPS, but that might be less optimal.\n\nThe parents fucked the kids over, not the US.\n\n> Should we also kick out all people of European descent, since the Native Americans were here first and Europeans didn't just cross the border illegally but actually committed genocide?\n\nAn interesting question. After looking at the law, everyone who has birthright citizenship, is a child of a US citizen, or went through the LEGAL immigration process is fine, regardless of race/religion/etc.\n\nSo no.\n\nThough I note that adding an example where the natives failed to control unrestricted \"illegal\"(as you said) immigration completely fucked over the natives (to the point of genocide) is not helping your case...",
"Can someone explain to me why the far left continuesly compare Trump to Hitler? Are they even aware of who Hitler is?",
"Have you not heard of sarcasm?",
"And he won't. ",
"If you use Lügenpresse you chose to associate with the NSDAP, NPD and AfD after all it is a known nazi word. Everyone that doesn't want that simply uses other words that describe it better anyway. \n\nAnd it is TV. Even the most basic topics they cover in 2 min would take way more to cover properly and they have both not the time and their viewers wouldn't want it either. \n\nOnline pool suck. Nobody who agrees take the trouble to go on a right leaning site and actually vote in them and they are easily manipulated with existing tools. If you trust online pools then you have no right to criticize normal media. ",
"You're calling me dumb, but you misuse words in order to further your point. \n\nSo either you're dumb or intentionally malicious.",
"There is a difference between being loyal to a country and \"never questioning it.\" You are not disloyal to America by not blindly agreeing with everything the government does. In fact, checking the government's actions might be one of the most American things you can do.",
"Say what you will, if you consume the media that is one sided and go to those colleges where people who even have moderate viewpoints get shut down you’ll understand my point. Good day",
"They have until september 2019. Whats wrong with El Salvadore? Why did they leave their country :/",
"If he was actually Hitler you wouldn't be able to fuck up traffic for hours screaming at everyone with a different opinion",
"Do you even listen what are you trying to say. You are essentially patronising women by telling them they have no mind and power and can not make any decision in life if they face a man who is on par or slightly in better position. You like to think that women can not make any decision and everything is forced onto them. That is sexist.\n\nIn your blind hate you have forgotten that there was no literal grabbing of any pussy. It was also an analogy. A judgement less talk amongst peers and colleagues.\n\nFrom life defining singular moment where he put all his faith in a woman's hand. You will be fascinated to know that several women have held key high positions in his various enterprises. Some have held very challenging roles. A sexist person would never ever had put high regards to a woman's capability and certainly would not have put them in charge of defining moments.",
"He’s gonna take your last comment literally...",
"Vox, prime example of high quality journalism.",
"I just scrolled through about 136 zillion comments about how this is irrelevant because Trump isn't killing people. I'm not sure the \"whoosh\" I heard was from my scrolling.",
"I think we could find plenty of atheists who assert god doesn’t exist. People always disagree, even when they share a label.\n\n From my experience, most modern atheists and popular ones (like Dawkins or Dillahunty) understand that atheism is simply a lack of belief in a god. They leave room for doubt because it’s important to acknowledge the difference between a lack of belief and assuming a burden of proof. \n\nFor example, obviously I don’t believe in “universe creating pixies”, but I won’t claim they definitely do not exist. I obviously can’t prove these pixies don’t exist. It sounds absurd, but when you live in a culture that largely believes in magic creators, it’s a position you’re forced to defend. ",
"And the mass illegal migration of Mexicans has been a big FU to the United States and her sovereignty, but “your community” just doesn’t give a shit do they",
"You haven't seen Shindler's List or any other films on the Holocaust have you? Shame on you and your hyperbolic extremism. Seriously. ",
"\"Someone had a certain ideology 200 years ago\" is not an argument that stands up well against the idea of re-evaluating ones perspective from time to time.",
"SALT deductions lost mostly. \n\nYou're going to save 4k next year? I sadly don't have the luxury of knowing the exact numbers until then, but based on deductions lost, it's not looking good. \n\nGo to college, buy a house, bust your ass to pay for both, get punished by Dems and Republicans. ",
"How these are always relevant astound me.",
"Hitler was a far right nationalist candidate.\n\nTrump is a far right nationalist candidate. \n\nTrump is blaming our problems on immigrants and Islam\n\nHitler blamed his problems on Jews \n\nTrump is far closer to Hitler before the Holocaust than Hitler is to the left. Hitler killed Communists.",
"Real people are retarded I guess",
"Your arguments are based on the political systems, and I never said that the american system is as borken as the German system of that time (it is terribly broken, but it is not that easy to destroy as the Weimar republic; Edit: But I would argue that, if someone who actually analysed the american system properly prior to the election, in addition to being actually politically capable so that, for example, the trump-government would have been fully staffed when getting into office instead of well - not being anything learly staffed even a year after, than it would been pretty much possible to overthrow the american system. So, someone else with the same propaganda used as Trump did, but with more brain and planing-capability, would have been able to destroy the american system). \n\nBut it does not invalidad that the basic concept of hte propaganda used by both Hitler and Trump to win their elections are similar. \n\nUsing myths about how beaten down they are from the outside (Dagger thrust legend / legend about having lost in international negotiation), calling for violence (SA usage / second amendment-calls and promises to pay lawyers, clearly not on the same level, but that mostly because the Weimar system was easier to abuse so that it was easier to directly use violent corps), attacks against 'outsiders within the own society' (calling for deportation of jews outside of Germany, attacks against socialists and communists and all political oponents outside of the realm of normal political banter / calling for deportation of basically everyone that is not american, attacks against social democrats and everyone who is not his opinion with lies and methods outside of the real of political banter), trying to create wrong accusations and usage of lies about political oponents in a large manner (dagger-thrust legend and lies about socialist / E-mails + pizzagate + birtherism and more), oh, and the thing about trying to discredit media that reports negativly (Lügenpresse / fake news). I think, if I do more research, I find even more similarities, but these are the comparisons I don't even have to think about.",
"Yawn",
"So they’re not saying that he did those things, they’re saying that he’s going to...",
"It's jingoism now to require people to be citizens to live in your country?",
"If you can't conclude what my argument is or have not watched the daily show enough to get what my argument is; it does not mean I am incoherent. It means ,in this specific situation, you are choosing not to understand what I am trying to conclude. The daily show basically discredited main stream media news outlets similar to how trump has. Does that make more sense now?",
"18 million users to spread propaganda to, that's why.",
"Some people are just too brain dead to realize what they are saying. ",
"Pretty sure this post is more than that. It's drawing a parallel between the use of the term \"fake news\" and how it is used to discredit the media. ",
"Yes. ",
"It's real. It's a shame and it's not acceptable to disseminate blatant lies as truth. Our electorate in America is uninformed enough without having to Wade through lies told by the biased press get your head out of your ass and pay attention to what's going on in this country or STFU.",
"Apatheism, the belief that it doesn't matter whether there is one or not.",
"I hate trump, but I think that comparisons to Hitler lead anywhere. It’s the easiest criticism to make, and Hitler was a politician. You can likely find something that he did that most politicians do. Discrediting and controlling the media is a huge issue, but the Hitler comparison ruins the argument it’s brought up in. Pretty sure there’s a Hitler fallacy ",
"You sound terrified. Pathetic lol. Scared little man. ",
"hitler had absolute control over the media while trump has almost none",
"I called my aunt out on this. She got super pissed and started telling me all about how the left is about inclusion (unless you have even a slightly different opinion than them). ",
"But he has pretty eyes",
"I'm old enough to remember that this was exactly the type of behaviour that won Trump the presidency lol.",
"You're right I too love that parents are encouraged to send their children to the US using coyotes that rape and abuse them. Children being taken advantage of is just fine by me so long as they grow up and vote a certain way. What a great thing to support I feel so superior to everyone else because children are getting raped because of the policies I support.",
"I'm not strawmanning you man. You don't know what that means. Ironically, by claiming that you're actually strawmanning *me.*\n\nYou literally just said in your comment that you believe Trump is \"someone who admitted to sexually assaulting someone\" and I'm telling you why, in the context of that recording, it is completely retarded to believe that. ",
"Because Hitler was a very good public speaker and Germany had been shit on after losing WW1 so it was a lot easier to rile people up and convince them that the Jews were to blame. Im not refuting that there was a lot of hate for Jewish people in Europe pre WW2. My point was that Hitler developed his opinion about Jewish people over his lifetime. The guy I was originally responding to asked if people think all racist are as toxic as Hitler. Obviously the answer is no, but people like Hitler had to start their irrational hatred somewhere.",
"I wasn't having a conversation with you, and I have no problem pointing out your hypocrisy. Take your phony moral high ground and cram it. \n\nWhat's the matter, you can dish it but you can't take it? I understand why you enjoy your echo chamber. ",
"Yea but Trump is right ",
"> CHECKMATE ATHETITS\n\nShow me your athetits",
"If you uprooted your life and moved to say, the UK for a job, or family, or whatnot. You have completely settled in, but you're still working on your citizenship. And then something bullshitty happened and you were straight up deported. Would you just be *fine* with it? Like honestly what the fuck kind of argument is that? \n\n\"*If America's so great why don't you just go back?!?*\"\n\n",
"> I feel like your views are harmful\n\nWhat's harmful is deliberately lying about non-controversial things in order to pretend that a controversy exists.\n\nWhat's even more harmful is pretending that it's not a problem when a major news organization is repeatedly lying.\n\nEdit: And frankly, it's *even more* harmful to pretend that the ones who point out the problem are the ones who are doing harm.",
"It helps shes not relevant. ",
"\"Mexico isn't sending their best\"\n\nSounds a lot like he talking about immigrants.\n\nEdit:\n\n>Edit: immigrants and illegal aliens are different things.\n\nDouble check the definition of the word \"immigrant\" and tell me where it specifies by legal means only.",
"The \"Fake News\" meme was invented by the left. Trump is goofing on that when he uses the term. Shaking my goddam head.\n",
"Your saying you understand it implies that you think there was a rational reason behind it. If so, can you explain it to me?\n\nFrom what I can tell Trump pardoned Arpaio either because he hates brown people, because he hates the rule of law, or both. I guess those are reasons, just not particularly legitimate ones.",
"Contrary to right leaning media, the Mueller investigation is ongoing and there will be more to come. Based on the current amount of evidence made public and statements from the former FBI director, though, we can already see (and further predict) what part Russia had to play in those events.\n\nI'm not sure what your statement about the United States influencing elections has to do with supporting your argument. I don't agree with it and I don't support it (the US influencing foreign elections) but it's been occurring longer than I've walked this planet/been able to participate in elections. That's the fault of the generation(s) before me that were able to vote/influence policy; ironically, a majority of them voted for Trump in this past election. This argument of yours is purely \"whataboutism\" at its finest.",
"Total war means civilians are fair game. That’s the rule of thumb. A woman in a factory is just as much part of the war as a man in the front lines. Plus, in a conscript war where nearly all men in good health are fighting the war, their lives are certainly equal to or more important than foreign civilians of an enemy nation engaged in total war. Add in the facts that a land invasion would have resulted in Soviet-controlled parts of Japan and many more dead Japanese and Americans, and the nuclear bombs were the logical decision. ",
"Yes and no. Comparisons to him are overblown many of the times but still there is a pattern of outrageous behavior that he exhibits that we have become desensitized to and used to, which is very dangerous. Scandals that would end other politicians careers seem to always be given an excuse by his party. If you follow the American politics on here or elsewhere you'll see many users stating they're \"not surprised \" anymore when he says or does something outrageous. I've said that myself.\n\nAnd that's dangerous, complacency is dangerous. Obama spoke on that in a speech he gave not too long ago where he said do not stop being outraged, call out outlandish and dangerous so as not to let it become commonplace. Those weren't his words but that's the gist of it.\n\n\nAnd it makes sense. To add to this there has been a marked and documented rise in hate crimes, neo Nazis resurgence and the like since he took office. So again he probably will not lead to an explosion of Mexicans or blacks or any other people he doesn't like but his morals and his words make a dangerous precedent and he, in my opinion, is leading the country backwards.\n\nHell he had an affair with a pornstar for a year, while his wife was pregnant and after their son Barron was born. Yet his whole campaign trail he shat on Hillary and Bill because of bills Infidelity, and called Hillary weak for staying with Bill. Yet he fucked other women, assaulted other women (no one is surprised and no one is perfect so he's not the first or the last to cheat) and in the same breath attacked Hillary for Bills cheating. His whole base attacked her too I wonder if they'll just ignore the fact he did worse when he cheated on Melania. He's a liar and a conman and a racist and with his platform his views reach the whole nation and that's dangerous.\n\nEdit: also it is dangerous the way he attacks the press at every turn. This will lead, well it already has led to his followers doing the same. Discounting true journalism as fake in favor of fucking breitbart which reports on conspiracy theories. This will lead to more fools adopting them. And to bring it all back this behavior is almost becoming commonplace which is worrying. He lies at every turn and repubs will always make an excuse for him or ignore it in the long run ",
"Keep letting it go on. The 2020 reelection depends on it.",
"Democracy doesnt have to be replaced with an authoritarian regime over night. You need to poiny out that what trump brought to the table in American politics are facist ideas, they dont make him or the US government facists but it shifts the whole spectrum right and majes it easier and easier to accept and spread more facist ideas.\n\nDisregarding and decrediting the press *is* authoritarian. C\nOnly catering to your supporters, restructuring the government according to loyalty and not merit, constant hate speech and self victimization are all facist traits or at least in that direction.\n\n\nWhy record history if your not going to learn from it? Why should we wait for the democratuc process to be severely damaged (more than it already is) till people are allowed to speak up.\n\nOf course they speak up in extreme ways. You cant expect an angry protester to hold a sign that says \"trump is undermining my democracy\". Theyre angry and they have the right to do a hyperbole about the issue.",
"then you simply look it up in this handy table: http://neukolln.net/img/memes/german-articles-why-because-fuck-you-thats-why.jpg",
"I'm sure you're able to tune out stuff you don't like on any number of occasions.",
"Of course not. People just really need their safe spaces and crave being validated. Trump basically tells them all to fuck off and he's literally Hitler.",
"Jesus fucking Christ, they're similar in their rhetoric, if you choose to ignore that you are just as brainwashed as the Germans were. ",
"You are quite literally crazy",
"Top tier bait there mate.",
"I hate trump, but I think that comparisons to Hitler lead anywhere. It’s the easiest criticism to make, and Hitler was a politician. You can likely find something that he did that most politicians do. Discrediting and controlling the media is a huge issue, but the Hitler comparison ruins the argument it’s brought up in. Pretty sure there’s a Hitler fallacy ",
"I didn't. I'm saying that your argument is stupid because it's a manipulative way to stop a discussion. \nThing's being worse in Africa has no bearing on this discussion",
"A term coined by Hillary... trump just spun it back and now he’s the bad one lol ",
"Because otherwise you are arguing against statements that were not made?",
"Good thing NATO exists.",
"The point was that the reason the Germans were so blindly following Hitler was because they were treated like shit as a country with a shitty economy for years after the Great War, and Hitler lead them to believe he could restore Germany. They were desperate. I don’t blame them for not seeing that coming.\n\nWe are in nowhere near that kind of state as a country. Look at the outrage that occurs after every little thing Trump does. I don’t like the man myself, but I have no reason to believe that his behavior could lead to another “Final Solution.”",
"I suspect it's because it actually made a significant impact on the worldwide Jewish population. There's only 14 million today according to Wikipedia. But in terms of _lives_ a lot more people died and they shouldn't be forgotten.",
"Ah shucks this website can never make up its mind! Half the time it's sarcasm, half the time it's an ideologue. ",
"> Just because someone doesn't use governmental programs doesn't mean that their presence is without downsides. \n\nWhat, a bunch of people coming in and speaking Spanish? What are the downsides?\n\nImmigrants take jobs we don't want.",
"> she's worked and built a life and family here, all the while working towards her citizenship (which takes time and money). \n\nIf she has a visa then she has nothing to fear, no one with visas are being deported. \n\n>Now the Trump administration is threatening her legal status under that act and she may get deported as a result.\n\nThe only people under threat of deportation are illegals. So if the first part of your story is true then your mother has either a work visa, green card, or other form of documentation stating she is allowed to be here, thus will not be deported. \n\n>Even if we pull it off, there will be others who will be in similar situations and get deported nonetheless.\n\nYeah if you're here illegally you should be deported, I dont care about sob stories. ",
"Yes",
"How are you this big of a miserable sack of shit",
">Just because he posts in /r/t_d doesn't invalidate what he's saying.\n\nThe fact he spams non-political subs like /r/CringeAnarchy with political comments and submissions absolutely invalidates what he is saying. I only mentioned he posts in /r/T_D because it's painfully obvious why he is throwing a little temper-tantrum over this post.\n\n>As well as the fact that this doesn't belong here\n\nAccording to the rules of the sub, you are wrong. There is a reason the top comment in this sub is the auto-mod telling people to filter out political posts if they don't like them.",
"He kept Mein Kampf next to his bed. True story. ",
"Whatever you want to believe you wonderful person. :) ",
"I'll allow it. ",
"Fake Rüse?",
"Yeah does anybody else thinks trump is literally hitler?",
"Literally Hitler! ",
"My argument is \"why make a choice? Both should never happen again. What's the point of making 1 never-to-be-repeated-event worse than the other in your head or anyone else's?\"",
"OMG GO AWAY HITLER GAWH",
"https://imgur.com/a/d0BPn\nWhy are you spam.?",
"You have NO basis to claim what he was saying didn’t happen. None. And people have issues with it because he either *actually assaulted* someone or brags about doing so. It’s NOT OKAY either way! Please grow up and don’t treat women poorly. This is crazy fucked up. \n\nAnd there are *multiple* allegations from beauty pageant women that he walked in on them while dressing and did other things and *multiple* allegations of rape as well. That coupled with him making claims like this is seriously fucked up and YOU are the one trying to explain it away like it’s normal and okay. It’s not. Period. ",
"Shhh. He's virtue signaling! ",
"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/10/21/lets-rank-the-media-from-liberal-to-conservative-based-on-their-audiences/?utm_term=.9a394156b7f4\nThe Washington Post ran an article about a Pew research poll which showed a slight liberal bias in itself",
"Serious question and I know you are going to downvote me into Oblivion but how old are you?\n\nI can possibly see a rational adult thinking what you are describing. You could compare any powerful politician to Hitler. People have compared every Us President since Hitler to Hitler and yet still no Hitler. Because Hitler was a powerful politician and that makes it very easy to compare powerful politicians to Hitler. \n\nTrump isn't Hitler, he isn't anything like Hitler and he will never be like Hitler. You can complain about Trump, dislike him, even hate him. \n\nBut if you are going to compare him to Hitler, don't expect any rational adult to take you serious.",
"He's litterally said he'll rubber stamp whatever Congress sends him, he hasn't used his Veto once. I'm no expert on dictators but they tend to be a little more hands on than this.",
"REEEEEEE!!!! ",
"So Obama is Hitler when he attacks right-wing media? These things would have more sway if your side was ever consistent in your logic. ",
"Hmm how exactly is this comparable to the people you mentioned? And to answer your question, you'd need to be in a position of power, and have major influence, then absolutely. ",
"Cool! I only brought up character map because it comes standard with Windows OS. I think its alt+u on my keyboard (on mobile atm).",
"If anything he is like Hitler because he is doing a good job with the economy. ",
"I think that exists on the opposite side of the spectrum too",
"After Germany had shown such high regards for treaties by abstaining from remilitarizing the Rhineland, abstaining from annexing Austria, and not having any further claims after annexing the Sudetenland, too! \n\nJust because there's two sides to everything doesn't mean both are credible and worthy of consideration.",
"You can tell Trump wants in his heart to be a Hitler style charismatic nationalist leader, but he isn't focused enough to pull it off or really wield the power of the presidency. He is like a wimpy Hitler.",
"I bet that guys wears a beret and scarf to all his favorite vegan restaurants",
"It's a picture?",
"Fox and Breitbart knowingly publish false information any moron with Google can look up themselves.",
"This picture is garbage on many levels ",
"<*snort>* \n\nGot em!",
"Poorly designed things aren’t inherently political either, but if you went on r/crappydesign and posted this while putting a soup bowl with holes in it in the corner of the picture, that wouldn’t go very well.",
"Basically my point was, atheists, being people who hold logic to a very high degree should be able to figure out that you can't make assertions without proof. When you have loud and proud atheists fervently proclaiming that they know god doesn't exist it makes the whole label look unintelligent.",
"The article links to the original study. Can you point out what Vox is misrepresenting? Or are you just going to dismiss the source as fake too because it's more convenient?",
"jfc....\n\nWell at least the good news is that the bots aren't self aware yet. \n\nbadum tsss",
"I think you mean dark complected, there's plenty of white latinxs who he left alone",
"True, he flipped their script and put them on defense. \"Fake News\" was meant to obfuscate all of the stuff in wikileaks that was being spread around social media originally. ",
"Is being healthy still a form of disease? Is not collecting stamps still a hobby?",
"That’s ok if you think that. It’s really a simple concept, sub for a certain reason is generally partisan in one way or another, why it’s good to read the sub rules. ",
"No it was the antichrist c’mon man get it right geez ",
"The similarities go beyond disagreement. Both are narcissistic racist despots who blame their nation's problems on people of different ethnicities than their own, and yes, blame the press for reporting on their misdeeds.",
"Do you smell toast? ",
"[BACKSTORY HERE ](http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8) ",
"Atleast their memes are funny.",
"I lean left",
"Hitler drank water too!\n\nSeriously lads, are we going to pretend Fake News isn't a real phenomenon just to spite Trump?\n\nI have documents that prove it's real, but you can't read them as it would be illegal, but the I'll give them to the folks at CNN, who have special protections.",
"Rather insulting to all those who died at the hands of hitler to compare someone who is none the like to him.",
"You're making a claim that I don't have \"locker room talk\" or hear crass conversation because I don't think it's okay for someone to sexually assault people by their own admission. It's actually an insane argument. \n\nTrump admitted to doing it. I've never heard anyone admit to sexual assault in the locker room - and that's across decades and probably 1000s of people I've heard say anything in a locker room. ",
"and now we need to totally confuse them by adding, that\n\n1) ß can be exchanged by sz but not by ss, but most german speaking people get it wrong too.\n\n2) since a few months, the ẞ (capital ß) exists, but it is not yet on german layout keyboards.\n\n3) there is no metal-umlaut. so Mötörhead is correctly spelled Moetoerhead, but not Motorhead.\n\nceterum censeo \"unit libertatem\" esse delendam.",
"I feel ashamed to admit i wasted my time doing so, but i just went through the new comments because it seems like most are disagreeing with this post yet it *somehow* (*cough* vote manipulation *cough*) made the front page.\n\nOf the 50 most recent comments in \"new\" (when i started typing this): \n44 were against this post. \n3 were neutral. \n3 were in favor of this post\n\nI know that any sample can be misleading but how tf do 88% of the most recent comments hate this post with only 6% actually supporting it yet it reaches the front page? Also, most of the highly upvoted comments are in favor of it. That does not even come close to adding up.",
"He was literally talking about illegal aliens. I'm not for him, but its probably a good idea to get your arguments based in reality. ",
"People who don't even live in the country downvoting, good job im sure you know best. Before I came to germany as an immigrant, I never cared for politics. I didn't even know the basics to be honest. But the 2015 ongoing crisis and US election here has been reported so disgustingly one sided and dishonest, the population has been totally left aside and the old parties are all one big clique who all feed into each other, its been so disgustingly wrong and full of lobbyism and agenda that I had to take a stance only afterwards. If they lie, leave out information, try to infest their opinion and decieve so much, it can't be the good side. The government is a manifest of corruption and delusion and they new moderate right wing party which seemingly always only proposes modest common sense things that (Nr.1 Party) CDU would have called with applause 15 years ago is shunned, demonized and openly called for defamation by the old parties because they don't play by their rules with all the media playing ball. The old parties go to any lengths to hurt them in any sort of undemocratic ways, even in small trivial things like the tradition for the oldest member to hold the first speech - turned out to be their member and suddenly the tradition is removed. People burn their cars, vandalize their houses, politicians openly call for defamation campaigns in the public infront of journalists like its ok and get away with it, its ridiculous. Democracy in germany is dead. ",
"Lmao, you leftists are so fucking stupid. ",
"Similar to what we have today-- \"fake news\" was originally coined by the left, and Trump is goofing on that with his usage. \n",
"So does CNN, but apperently calling them \"fake news\" puts you on the same level as Hitler.",
"Apples and oranges. Obama joked about it once. Trump has made it a centerpiece of his talking points. There are studies to back up Obama's point (see below). There are no studies (that I am currently aware of) backing up Trump's point.\n\nhttp://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/",
"What's become really sad now is that all Trump has to do to make your arguments invalid after his presidency is not be Hitler. If after his presidency he didn't start a World War and commit Genocide all of you and your arguments would be invalid for a while. ",
"That’s a big thug to be able to knock over an entire gas station ",
"What makes you think anyone has any desire to be anything like you?",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/de/comments/70ta9a/are_you_thinking_about_umlauts_again/",
"This is too much abuse ",
"I heard one time Trump drank a glass of water; JUST LIKE HITLER!! ",
"but trump didnt invent the fake news phrase???",
"couldn’t have*",
"No, it wasn’t. I’m surprised so many people don’t remember. Fake news referred to news from fake entities that constructed fake stories entirely from thin air. For instance, a story about a murder that never happened in a town that doesn’t exist with peoples names just made up. This was a business people ran to get ad revenue. These were people intentionally making things up, usually to get clicks from right wing people.\n\nConspiracy theories were not fake news. False news was not fake news. News that you didn’t like wasn’t fake news.\n\nFake news had an extremely specific usage before both sides weaponized the term.",
">One of the particular methodologies Hitler used was discrediting the press explicitly so that people would be unsure of what to believe, inoculating himself from criticism and giving him freer reign to pursue horrific policies that satisfied his nationalistic base who HATED people that were not like them.\n\nBullshit, revisionist history and lies. You perfectly embody what these moderates are complaining about. You are lying in order to draw parallels between Trump and Hitler that do not exist. \n\nHitler did not go on twitter and whine that CNN is fake news, **he conquered the press through direct force and violence.**\n\n>SA (storm troopers) and members of the Nazi elite paramilitary formation, the SS, took to the streets to brutalize or arrest political opponents and incarcerate them in hastily established detention centers and concentration camps. [Nazi thugs broke into opposing political party offices, destroying printing presses and newspapers.](https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007655)\n\n>Sometimes using holding companies to disguise new ownership, executives of the Nazi Party-owned publishing house, Franz Eher, established a huge empire that drove out competition and purchased newspapers at below-market prices. Some independent newspapers, particularly conservative newspapers and non-political illustrated weeklies, accommodated to the regime through self-censorship or initiative in dealing with approved topics. \n\n>Owners of a worldwide advertising agency, the Mosse family owned and published a number of major liberal papers much hated by the Nazis, including the Berlin Tageblatt; the Mosse family fled Germany the day after Hitler took power. Fearing imprisonment or death, reputable journalists also began to flee the country in large numbers. German non-Jewish newspaper owners replaced them in part with ill-trained and inexperienced amateurs loyal to the Nazi Party",
"It's almost like he had to deal with the greatest recession in nearly a century left by the republicans.\n\nLabor force participation rate is an especially retarded metric, because there's nothing any president can do about it other than raising the retirement age or repealing child labor laws. What a genius you are.\n\nNice try at deflection though.",
"Get your fucking propaganda out of here ",
"You do realize that its not a direct comparison but just a pic to show he uses the same language hitler did to blame the media for misinformation? No? Now you do",
"It os a possibility the citizenry should be aware of",
"I think seeing this asserted in seriousness, while watching the bush and now trump admins blatantly and actively disregarding fact, science and reality at every opportunity because it conflicts with their conservative worldview, political agenda and/or narcissism while the dems and the rest of the 1st world look around in bewildered confusion, has given my faith in humanity cancer.",
"Because Reddit is pushing a very obvious left wing agenda ",
"Correct, it was coined by the left, not Trump.",
"Were you even on Reddit when Trump was running for office? r/all was turned into TD, but I’m sure you’ll have some way to convince yourself into believing what you want to believe.",
"I never saw any post on this sub comparing Obama to Hitler and I've been here for 10 years.",
"Most his tweets be on point yo. Unless CNN is telling you what he tweeted and your getting it through their lens.",
"Can we stop with this narrative? Cable news isn't perfect, but it's miles ahead of the alternatives that people go to, and people never bother to apply discretion, including extremely trustworthy institutions like the New York Times in that \"legacy media\" circlejerk. \n\nPeople need to become media literate. They need to learn the difference between opinion articles and news. They need to learn the difference between tabloids and respectable outlets. \n\nPeople like Trump -- and maybe you -- take the realization that news media is not perfect fact and turn around and go to partisan or completely unqualified sources like random YouTubers, Breitbart, Infowars, and similar sources. You go from sources that sensationalize to sources that *actually do nothing but deceive.*\n",
"You realize this is politics right? Have some tact is all I'm saying. We have hit this day and age where politics wont function because it has to be all or nothing. 20-30 years ago you'd have people willing to make deals with the understanding that it's transactional. You have to give to get and vice versa. Compromise is involved. You can't be so idealistic. You/your side aren't pure enough to survive it. \n\n>What's harmful is deliberately lying about non-controversial things in order to pretend that a controversy exists.\n\nDo you honestly believe both sides don't do this?\n\nThey will point to a lot of similar things that liberals/democrats do and then you lost any progress on the real issue which is literal fake news and propaganda swaying our elections, pushed by foreign enemies. Do you honestly think it's that important to make these people eat the crow of Fox news too, over trying to break a huge chunk of our population out of a trance that is well on it's way of losing us the agency over our government? Fox news is the argument you have when your country isn't teetering on the edge.",
"Too bad Trump is mostly right about the press.",
"But if you listen to the left Trump is both stupid and smart while being a brilliant evil master mind so dumb that he's literally hitler taking over the world. ",
"> Ok then what do you believe? You believe our Government as we know it will be flipped upside down in 7 years? You believe all of our checks and balances to minimize the President’s authority will all be wiped away?\n\nThe future remains to be written. Congress is currently energetically covering all Trump's abuses, to the point of having the House PSCI publishing investigations in to HRC rather than doing it's job investigating the Russian connection, which was obvious and clear long before Trump ever announced his candidacy. There is zero chance this current congress will ever oppose anything Trump does using executive authority, even if he massively oversteps.\n\nThe DOJ is quickly becoming a political tool, opening a new investigation in to Trump's last opponent, and the Mueller SC investigation is only holding on by a thread. If Trump moves on him, probably by replacing either the AG or the DAG, it will be over. Then the political harassment and suppression using law enforcement will gather speed.\n\nThe courts are very slow to act, and are powerless against an executive that just doesn't care. Never going to be a substantive force once the gloves are off.\n\nThe only two bulwarks are (1) the vote, which is being attacked at every opportunity. It's no accident that VP Pence, as Gov of Indiana, had the ISP send 40 troopers to confiscate all the black outreach voter registrations just before the election, claiming there was evidence of massive fraud. Guess what - those folks didn't get to vote, and there never was an actual investigation.\n\nBut if people who believe in good government can come together, ignore the propaganda and plain simple noise (designed to make you give up, not to convince you), and replaces both houses of Congress then there is some chance to turn that tide.\n\nThe other, weaker, bulwark are the states. Right now the majority of the states would not do anything to oppose a Fascist government, in fact they would be moving as fast as they could to take advantage of the breakdown to implement all kinds of fascist policies themselves.\n\nA minority of the states would actively and effectively oppose such things, but their ability to act on the national stage is very limited, and it would be an uphill fight.\n\nSo lets hope the 2018 elections make a different. If Trump retains control of both houses of Congress it will basically be the end of Mr. Madison's experiment - \"A Republic, if you can keep it\" (BF).",
"It really breaks my heart that many folks, including a lot in this thread, can't seem to think far enough outside of their experience to empathize even a little. Some are telling me that they hope my stepmom gets deported.We're just flat-out criminals in their eyes.",
"Under Trump's rule people are already being taken from their workplace by armed thugs employed by the state and taken to prisons for the crime of being who they are. This is in the first year of Trump's presidency.\n\nThe Reichskristallnacht only happened 5 years after Hitler was elected into power and the Nazi atrocities really only picked up Steam once Germany invaded Poland in 1939. 6 years after Hitler rose to power. ",
"No, I asked if you SMELL toast",
"Pretty sure Trump does not eat carrots, or any vegetable.",
"And you want perfect? ",
"Very easy to prove that wrong.\n\n[the campaign promise](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/07/donald-trump-calls-for-total-and-complete-shutdown-of-muslims-entering-the-united-states/?utm_term=.689bda183904) was even up on donaldjtrump.com for months after his election. They only took it down because they thought it would hurt their Supreme Court case for the ban they tried to pass.",
"And?",
"The internet? Nixon was hitler, Reagan, bush sr.. you millennial ",
"Look I will be the first to admit he isn’t perfect. He does stuff wrong or different than we want all the time, but he isn’t the antichrist for being wrong, which is what the news and Democrats would have you believe. ",
"Lol please make some more assumptions about people you know nothing about",
"okay man, just don't pretend there's balance then. that was my only problem. ",
"Reddit won't call that fake news because they want it to be true. But, yes, it was fake news.",
"I got more American patriotism in my pinky than you will ever have ",
"So why not use facebook and google, as they are also combatting \"fake news\", and the right wing media hosts who blamed Russians for producing the \"fake news\" that contributed to Hillary's loss?\n\nOh, that's right, that wouldn't fit the narrative. Good god, pics like this are pushing me **away** from the left. Stop being so goddamn hyperbolic.",
"Not quite, it was about blatantly fake news with an agenda, the \"foreign entities\" thing was a conspiracy theory latched onto it later.\n\nIn truth the \"Russian facebook stories\" existed, but were extremely rare, and totally ineffective.",
"You do realize the term \"immigration\" covers both legal and non-legal methods, right?",
"All I can do is facepalm.\n\nHave you actually researched the history of the Nazi party or are you just going to claim everything that doesn't support your narrative is \"Nazi propaganda.\" Must be awfully convenient for every bit of difficult history to simply be explained as false propaganda. Why think at all? Mindlessly listening to the *right* message is the best way to avoid propaganda! /s",
"The term you are looking for is Agnosticism. The belief that there is no real way of knowing, so fuck it!",
"Doesn't seem like the [black community](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/09/29/what-black-americans-are-most-worried-about-in-the-trump-era/) agrees with you. But I'm sure you know what's best for them, right?",
"Hitler took everyone's guns away before he rounded them up and put them in extermination camps. I think it's a pretty solid red line. You're the one talking about fascist governments then you turn around and mock someone for saying a sign of fascism is when they take away our guns? Are you really that stupid or are you just high?",
"lol",
"That’s the joke",
"Where Germans?",
"That’s because they were dead or illegal. ",
"Comparing Trump to Hitler undermines all the horror Hitler had done. Idiotic statements ≠ the killing of millions. \n\n\nThose who say he's a dictator or will become one must have cheated on all their government assignments in school. ",
"In what way? Ease of use, I suppose? To not even get your hands dirty...is that better or worse than hands on? I can’t make that distinction. Killing innocent people is killing innocent people...",
"If you are at threat for deportation, you should probably be deported. Cry me a river",
"I absolutely would, I dislike Clinton a lot. You're assuming so much. I'm saying it isn't relevant because she isn't president, but he is. If she was president I'd probably want her impeached too if I'm being completely honest. I hate her, but it's not relevant. \n \nThanks for the downvote. I'm practically agreeing with you but w/e. You can't see past your own partisan bullshit. ",
"The **fact** is that *neither* Hitler being evil *nor* Trump being clueless change the fact that the press may embellish a good portion of what they 'report'.",
"The funny thing is that the modern news media has been caught peddling false news. Propaganda is a real thing and is used to control narrative all over the world. We can loosely compare Trump to Hitler, but this is just another example of someone making loose comparisons to push their own agenda.",
"I can't speak to the specifics of her situation as I don't know the specific acts you are citing that she came here under. I personally am against taking refugees in general as it leads to situations like this. \n\nI will say that I don't agree with the Trump admin on her specific case as if she was allowed here legally as a refugee, then perhaps stipulations should be set up to allow her to stay. This is different than DACA cases as their initial immigration to the United States was not under legal terms, regardless of if they had a say in it or not.",
"Cute coming from a 14 day old shill account. ",
"We are in EXACTLY that type of climate. People are unhappy. Thats how Trump got elected in the first place. The amount of protests happening are honestly paltry relative to the population and offences observed. ",
"/r/autobots",
"Because the Russian Collusion narrative is still alive and well.",
"That's totally false for example black people are doing better from a year of trump than they did in 8 of obamas ",
"> well respected news organizations like the New York Times\n\nWhy didn't The New York Times cover Obama's decision to allow Hezbollah, a terrorist organization, to sell cocaine in America?",
"It's important to understand that Islam is a religion very much plagued by extremism and violence and that taking extra security measures is warranted. Call it racist if you want, but it's extra vetting for the sake of security, not the systematic extermination of an ethnic group because of past scorning.",
"You people are so short sighted you can’t see past your own nose. Most authoritarians manage to have some sort of control.\n\nTrump is so laughably and pathetically impotent when it comes to exerting power and control. The idea that he’s a fascist or authoritarian is such an absurd idea it makes my head spin when people draw these comparisons. ",
"> This is only the beginning of deprogramming these people. They have been pulled into a loop where they only believe sources that reinforce their beliefs\n\nCan you not see the issue with your own post here?",
"He said while disputing exactly zero facts.",
"Reddit, you are pushing a left wing agenda. It’s very clear what you are doing. Shame on your Reddit. We will expose you. \n\nInb4 my account is deleted by the left wing agenda pushing Reddit scum ",
"I shouldn't have to filter out a non-political sub because I don't want to see politics. A default sub should not have politics. ",
"> Putting Stalin, Sanders and anarchists in the same basket is about as stupid as putting Rand Paul, Donald Trump, and Mussolini in the same basket. It's ridiculous.\n\nI completely agree if we're limiting it to social policies. Socialist economic policies... yikes.",
"OP asked if it is as bad as he sees, I said it wasn’t. What’s your point.",
"Only that an actual fire is happening every single time.",
"You're just digging a more hyperbolic hole with every comment. Doubling down on an illogical comparison doesn't make it magically come true, buddy. \n\nAnd sure, I am literally a brainwashed Nazi because I don't agree with you /s. You are prone to hyperbolic reasoning and it's not a good debate style. ",
"This man is right! \n\nTake a good hard look at the media you consume.",
"I hate so much this kind of shortcut...\n",
"<WHEEEEZE>...\n\nDid you just say DRUamPHFF is not HITLER?!?!\n\nRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAACIIIISSSSSSSSSTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!",
"Good job picking low hanging fruit because you're incapable of actually arguing the fact. Typical trumpanzee. Typical cuck",
"You should try to get out more. The real world is nothing like you described. ",
"Didn’t you guys threaten to go to Voat? You might be less triggered over there.",
"....or did it?",
"Wait, the one from Steele? You're saying buzzfeed made up something that someone else has already taken credit for, while working on opposition research against Trump?",
"Those receivers don't work above a certain speed and altitude.",
"Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahhaahha keep it up kid, you got comedy going for you for sure. ",
"Ahh I read \"one more letter\" as \"the character with an umlaut.\" \n\nSo it sounded like \"our language has a thing that's annoying on an ENG keyboard, but there's a workaround\" in my head.\n\nI think I just latched onto \"alt codes are a pain\" because trying to type German has made me seriously miss OSX. :(",
"\"Let's suppress the speech of a certain group of people because I don't like their political views. And then let's call *them* the fascists.\"",
"It was a response to \"pizzagate\".\n\nGiven that no other bizarre conspiracy caused an avalanche of media rebuttal (including JFK theories) I'd say there is some smoke somewhere regarding Podesta and the kiddies... (look at his brother Tony's art collection...)",
"I agree with your basic sentiment. I think that, even if his intentions are good, his actions are setting a dangerous precedent. It is not the duty of the president to tell the people which information sources they should listen to. But again, I agree overall. We wouldn't want to see ethics laws introduced because of the high probability of partisanship, but there are not a lot of great established ways for what we're dealing with right now since the world has never gone through it before.",
"Literally all of that is objective truth, sounds like you have blinders on.",
"Can we stop with the Trump as Hitler? Trump is not Hitler. Hitler was Hitler.",
"Which Goebbels-speech are you citing this from?",
"Trump doesn't know how soft power works and it is being dramaticly eroded. We still have some hard power but you would be surprised by how ineffective it is in modern times. With all major powers having ICBMs hard power doesn't work with them. Even slightly stable countries would be difficult if not politically impossible to influence with hard power, this includes Iran and North Korea. War with either country would kill millions of Americans and more foreign nations and create a humanitarian crisis, if we could even win.",
"Are there really that many people upvoting these no-effort posts, or is it bots? \n\nI don't really know which would be more irritating...",
"You shut your mouth! You're just a Nazi sympathizer, OBVIOUSLY. ",
"There’s some lonely mofos in here if that’s the case! 🤣",
"Who doesn’t? We’ll never reach perfection but we can try to get there. If this is as good as humanity is going to get, then I may as well run a knife across my neck because it would be pointless to contribute to a society that isn’t going to improve.",
"Obama said it before Trump, when trying to discredit the embarassing Wikileaks revelations. Trump was parroting Obama when he first used the term. Things that history will forget...",
"lol how is reinforcing the idea that certain news outlets are fake news nearly everyday to millions of people not a widespread campaign? please in your infinite wisdom explain that. he literally held awards further trying to discredit the same news outlets. what the fuck do you think a campaign is?",
"It actually is good for the world that the US is losing power. I don't think anyone outside of the US disagrees with that. Paying for all that stuff is what gives us that influence, not aircraft carriers. Make America Weak Again!",
"Still does nothing to change your hypocrisy which was, in fact, the amusing point. ",
"Why did you leave the context out that he was talking about illegal immigrants, again?",
"Why do you keep posting the same comment over and over in this post?",
"Woah, trump is Hitler :O",
"What a pyrhhic victory that's going to end up being. Congratulations you played yourself.",
"Objectively, many news agencies over the last year have posted articles with half truths, and flat out unverified stories about the present and his administration. They often sight 'anonymous' or 'unnamed' sources. It's a bit pathetic actually. Many times they will post an article, and after 2-3 days reword it. It's so slimy. \n\nEdit: I hate mobile. ",
"You responded to a comment sitting at +63 and your laugh comment is at -17. So yes, it backfired. ",
"> intentionally malicious\n\nlol",
"Don't try to make it into a partisan shit throwing fest, my friend. NYT and WaPo are a far cry from \"Hillary killed Seth Rich and sold yellowcake to Russians\" levels of fake news. I'm talking about fake, not bias. It's a whole nother ballgame. Find some real \"fake news\" stories pushed by places like NYT and WaPo. You can't. Meanwhile try to find ONE REAL SOURCE on \"thousands of sealed indictments.\" Just fuckin one. You can't. It's all \"zerohedge\" and shit like that. And their sources are garbage. These people are more likely to believe screenshots of /pol/ on fucking 4chan than they are an article from NYT that uses an anonymous source. It's a joke.",
"Ok - let’s start. The people elected Trump. Hitler was not elected.",
"Yes and his case, that is wrong and it was probably wrong of Trump to pardon him. I say probably as I'm not familiar with the specifics of his case. But that doesn't change the underlying principle I was stating.",
"Hi. I'm not from the US. Here's my attempt at a non-partisan take on the \"fake news\" issue.\n\nFrom what I've seen, most major media companies (ie. CNN, NYT, FOX, etc.) DO have some partisan *twist* on the story they're presenting. That said, from what I've seen, every time something they say is blatantly false, people are held accountable, any false statement is retracted, or corrections are made. Keep in mind it is important that you understand the difference between a news article and an editorial/opinion piece. *Generally, when reporting facts, these organizations appear to have some integrity*.\n\n**This is not the case for outlets such as breitbart and infowars**. If you genuinely believe that these networks have the level of integrity that major news networks do **YOU ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE SITUATION OBJECTIVELY**. PIZZAGATE did not spawn from a network with integrity, it spawned from infowars. The idea that these networks are somehow equal in integrity and therefore reading one is the equivalent of reading the others is *downright cancerous*. Get that out of your head.",
"I disagree. Most of the press is pretty left",
"Well, technically not. \n\"Lügenpresse\" has to be written with an capital \"L\" whether it's at the beginning or in the middle of a sentence, because it's a noun, and we have that kind of silly rules here in Germany.\n\nThe \"ue\" part is a-okay anyhow...",
"The Nazis were not about redistributing wealth. [The Nazis privatized industry and the largest benefactors in the third reich were rich capitolists](https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/04/capitalism-and-nazism/)\n\nThey just hated the jews and wanted to steal their money. ",
"That he's not a 3rd world dictator that will collapse our economy and bring doom to the world. Instead, he's an outlandish bombast that basically destroyed ISIS and sent the economy on a massive upward projection. ",
"Reddit is where all those crazy college kids you see on tv congregate and share their terrible values. ",
"Yes because a one party one man dictatorship having full control over all of the economy, a democratically elected politician who pushes for stronger welfare and regulation, and people who want nothing less than all economic power to the people with no dictators or middlemen are *identical.*",
"> You probably didn’t even vote in 2017.\n\nYou know Trump got elected in 2016 right?",
"#PHOOOONE",
"Links an old ass article...\n\nLowest unemployment rates amongst African Americans in over 15 years.\n\nI wish you lived as a Jew in Europe while Hitler was around so you could see what Hitler is really like. You don’t have a fucking clue",
"Can’t speak for whatever counted as journalism in the 30’s, BUT I can state categorically that today’s media leans WAY to the Left. That prompts concern as to its impartiality and what constitutes “news” fed to the people, who are either weak minded, or simply too damn busy to fact check. ",
"What's the joke? \"My aunt was a lifelong Chicago Republican until the day she died; now she's a registered Democrat.\"",
"> Totally. And all it does is weaken the genuine arguments against him.\n\nSee, i used to consider that. And I don't know about moderates (are there still moderates who don't lean left?), but the broad majority of trump supporters don't care well-reasoned arguments. For every well-though and nuanced fact you present, they return with 10 unverified claims from the Cheeto and his entourage. You offer examples of countries that have tried universal healthcare, and they declare it a globalist liberal conspiracy to hide that they're shithole countries.\n\nThere is no reasoning. But if they're gonna take potshots, may as well throw a few back. Do I think Trump is as bad as Hitler? Not a chance. But shock and awe is all that's ever reached these people, so adding excessive hyperbole to your arsenal is just the nature of the beast.",
"For Windows based machines, use the character map. Everything is there.\n[Windows Key]\ntype 'charmap'\n[enter]",
"In essence, the Left Wing media publications tried to use Fake News as a justification for them essentially losing the argument, and their political enemy in Trump being popular. It was not entirely unfounded, as organisations like Breitbart are not exactly trustworthy publications, nor are they the only online-based outlets making \"stories\" based on minimal or conflicting evidence to fuel a narrative.\n\nTrump's campaign team basically immediately picked it up, and then turned it around as a stick for Trump to then beat CNN and similar organisations with.\n\nSaid organisations then basically panicked, and suddenly had to radically divorce themselves from the phrase because now when it was mentioned it was now associated with their own bias and lousy reporting. I think in about the span of a week, they were already trying to put down a monster of their own creation.\n\nNow it's just a meaningless buzzword that goes in the pile of \"irrelevant terms both use sides to criticise eachother\" and can be ignored 90% of the time, as almost all attempts to combat fake news can and will have an ideological motivation behind censoring any kind of differing opinion, with no regard to its actual veracity.\n\nAny discrediting of large media organisations as \"fake news\" is mostly deserved because they have a responsibility to the public to not peddle such loaded buzzwords and obfuscate public discourse, they are the lugenpresse of their own making and all they had to do was not open that Pandora's Box.",
"I'm not sure if you're using the word \"bit\" rhetorically to indicate a large difference between the two or not, but I in fact see very little difference between mass killing and genocide.",
"Ye- \n\nYou know, the-\n\n One thing I should- - \n\n\nExcuse me for one second.\n\nWell, that was wonderful. A good time was had by all. I'm pooped.\n",
"> Describing it as \"socialist\" because they were the \"national socialists\" is flat-out fallacious.\n\nGood thing I never said that in my comment, eh? Notice how I didn't bother trying to attribute an arbitrary label to Trump or Hitler. I said to look at some of the groups opposing Trump and try comparing them to the Nazis before thinking it's more accurate to compare Trump himself to them.",
"I'm gonna reply to your comment here instead of the actual comment.\n\n'Locker Room Talk' is whatever, that wasn't locker room talk. I'll just quote one of my earlier comments:|\n\n>Yea, see, this is the real issue. It's a fundamental misunderstanding of power dynamics. I'm a guy, so I haven't been in that position but that doesn't mean I'm fucking blind to it.\n\n>It's called coerced consent.\n\n>Sure, there are definitely instances of people happily sleeping their way to the top but there's a lot of instances of people using their power and assuming that's what someone wants to do.\n\n>The point is, Trump was not asking these women if they wanted anything to do with him. He didn't ask for consent. He just went and did what he wanted. That's, by definition, sexual assault.\n\nAs for racism and homophobia? \n\nWell, lets see. He tried to ban transgendered citizens from the armed forces and discharge current ones already serving. Supported a bill that allowed business to discriminate against gay couples on religious basis. He even makes thinly veiled homophobic statements in public:\n\n>We’ve become so politically correct in this country that the country is going to hell. People are afraid to talk. They’re afraid to express their own thoughts. [Source](http://gawker.com/here-s-lgbt-champion-donald-trump-rambling-about-mich-1781961501)\n\nTalking about a player who was fined by the NFL for making homophobic remarks, as if most employers wouldn't just fuckin' fire you for that.\n\nI mean, let's not ignore the amount of even more openly anti-LGBT members in his Cabinet and Admin.\n\nOk, so that covers homophobia, now racism?\n\nWell that's even easier. He's openly called Mexicans rapists. I mean shit man, you got an illegal immigration and drug problem. You don't have mexicans raping and plundering lmao.\n\nHe's had MULTIPLE lawsuits that he's discriminated on his properties on the basis of race, directly from the DOJ. Like there's literally just too many things to list so [here's](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/every-moment-donald-trumps-long-complicated-history-race) pretty much all of it.\n\nIt's actually a very well written list, it even includes positive instances, but the fact is it's pretty obvious he holds quite a few discriminatory views.",
"This is a big reason why people are so against post 1970 immigrants in America. Prior to 1970 we had people coming to America to be American. Now we have people coming to America with no interest in being American. \n\nI have met people born inside the continental United States that don't speak English. I don't even understand how it is possible.",
"???? A butt slap obviously is NOT rape. Literally nobody is saying that it is rape. \n\nHowever, it absolutely IS sexual assault. Same as if a girl walked up to you and grabbed your package. All unwanted sexual contact, done with intention, is sexual assault. ",
"Honestly, until a politician murders 6 million people because they don't like their genes, comparing anyone to Hitler, left or right, is fucking ignorant. ",
"SILLY DRUMPF, CUCKS ARE FOR DEMS!",
"“Fake News” is used by both sides as a term, I first remember Obama mentioning it I think before the alt right started using it and the fact is fake news very much does exist but of course everyone is going to take the term and use it for stuff they don’t like and dilute its meaning into a meme.",
"Our national memory resets after five minutes,",
"Uh-huhn uh-huhn, yip yip yip",
"No Trump is not \"literally Hitler\". For decades the Right were the fear mongers who delivered not well sourced news stories that were stretched pretty far. Now leftist outlets are doing the same which Trump has deemed \"fake news\". Many mainstream media outlets are taking this approach as journalism is at an all time low and there are many Americans who take organizations such as CNN as the gospel when they have been caught using \"anonymous sources\" (AKA stories they literally made up to push an agenda) or have had to pull stories and publicly apologize.\n\nAt the end of the day factual, unbiased, non-agenda pushing news has become hard to find whether you are Left or Right. CNN and FOX news, /r/The_Donald and /r/Politics are two sides of the same coin using the same scare tactics in the same manner.",
"\"Trump hates illegals\" \"Hitler killed millions of Jews\" ITS THE SAME THING PEOPLE!! ",
"Let's ignore the fact that neither of those two created neither of those terms.",
"",
" They proposed border security over a lengthy timetable just like Regan agreed to in the 80's. How's that wall look that was built back then? ",
"Except that Hitler then proceeded to imprison and punish with the laws those he saw as enemies. I haven't particularly seen many reporters thrown in jail by this administration.\n\nTrump is a dumb ass who's not exactly the smartest guy ever, and by that metric comparing him to Hitler is giving him far to much credit. He's not going to imprison all gay people, or cause the hands maid tale to become reality and he sure as hell isn't going to have the political ability to carry out an aggressive military take over of the government.",
"No that's because those are mainstream subs and most normal people are against Trump.",
"oh no plez no ban",
"no. those are unrelated to atheism though. Atheism is a belief. plain and simple",
">Denying illegals of staying here?\n\nillegals and their children vote for the Democrats, so any attempt to take action against illegals is called racist by liberals for political reasons.\n\n>Give a good reason to hate this president\n\nThe only reason they need, and it is the ultimate reason, is that Trump disagrees with them politically, so he is a threat to their political agenda and must be destroyed/removed/discredited. That's politics. ",
"FOUND THE NAZI SYMPATHIZER GUAYS REEEEEEE!",
"Do you even leave the house? That talk is barely par for the course.\n\nAnd don't even get me started on what girls talk about. When people say that girl talk is dirtier than guy talk it's 100% not memeing, I've heard absolutely filthy things said by otherwise \"good girls\" in female settings. \n\nPeople talk about dirty stuff, it's normal",
"The sub has become pure leftist garbage. ",
"> I can't help but feel a desire to snap people out of it.\n\nThat sounds spectacular. How do we do that? I'm happy to help!",
">Undermine the democratic process by wiretapping a political opponent during their campaign?\n\nNo one wiretapped Trump. If he was caught up incedentally it's his fault for hiring a criminal as his campaign manager.\n\n>Undermine like buying a fake dossier from a Russian agency to start an FBI investigation on your political opponent?\n\nThe fake dossier that keeps getting corroborated day by dat? Also the investigation started based on an Australian diplomats information not the dossier. \n\n>Undermining like Bitching and crying when you lose fair and square and constantly trying to get the winner impeached?\n\nHe's violated the emolument clause and practiced nepotism since day 1. He's committed obstruction of justice. Also i dont call rampant voter suppression and colluding with a foreign government fair and square. \n\n>Undermining like shutting down the government over people who aren't you're citizens and worse have broken your laws?\n\nThis is his shutdown. He rejected a bipartisan plan. They could've funded CHIP for months. They don't give a shit about their own citizens.\n\n>Undermining like making sure over 80% of the press coverage is negative which is unprecedented and not an accurate portrayal of reality?\n\nIt's almost like we have an incredibly unpopular president that tosses aside dozens of decades of long held precedents and constantly fans the flames of racial divisions. Most of the shit he does is negative so yes the coverage will be negative. \n",
"The implication is that both Trump and Hitler use the same rhetoric, which is damning enough.\n\nObviously the only reason they had to undermine the press is to negate the power it might have over them. Trump routinely contradicts himself, spouts blatantly false facts, and has a litany of past scandals that could come back to bite him in the ass. The less the people trust the news media, the less he is affected by all this. Hitler ended up shutting down the freedom of the press, Trump most likely won't because we live on a vastly different world.\n",
"When you don't have an Umlaut symbol at your disposal. The Umlaut symbol is proper but the ue combo comes fairly close phonetically to representing the umlaut sound. Close but not exact - good enough, but not proper.",
"No, the one candidate being even worse than the other is why he got elected. ",
"Going full Hitler analogies\n\nWell done",
"That doesn't mean anything because CNN is fake news. In fact they are way way worse than that. They are globalist enemy propaganda engaged and a conspiracy to commit treason.",
"You post in The_Donald so I already know that's bullshit - they don't allow rational thought.",
"While I'm going to stay out of judgements on whether or not what we are doing is a good thing, any money given to other nations etc is not something done out of the good of our hearts, it's called soft power. Dollar for dollar it is far more influential to give countries money vs invading them. Reducing or eliminating soft power while keeping our military industrial complex intact is worthless at best.",
"is reddit not a race to the bottom?",
"> But you are highly disrespecting the people who voted for him\n\nYeah, leave the poor Russians alone",
"It’s funny how it stormed through Europe under the guise of socialism, isn’t it? \n\nKek ",
"Gay Brothel?",
"You can argue that the bombings were morally unjustifiable, and you might damn well be right, I'm not going to argue that because it's too subjective. I will however argue that there is a difference between random mass murder, acts of war, terrorism, and genocide. Whether you are looking at it from a moral or utilitarian view, the issue of motive can't just be breezed over. \n\nThe motive of an act of war is to dominate an enemy in order to take resources, power, or to end the conflict.\n\nTerrorism has a motive as well, usually to send a message or make a certain course of action pricey. It could be argued that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were acts of terrorism since the motive was to terrify Japan into withdrawing from the war.\n\nIn the case of the holocaust (and mostly any other genocide) the primary motivation is hate. 6 million jews were killed not because they posed a threat, or because they had something that Nazi Germany coveted, they were killed because they were feared and hated, and because they made a convenient enemy for the people of Germany to rally against.",
"Did they simply call a particular story fake? Or were they calling all right wing media fake? Any examples?",
"It's not, and this post only has 61% upvotes. The problem is there are a lot of idiots in this world, and they also lurk upvote trash.",
"If only Lord Sagan had bestowed upon us normal beings the ability to warp through space and time",
"People act like the Yellow Press isn't a grand auld tradition older than both those guys.",
"**AFFORDABLE CARE ACT**",
"There's a difference between sensationalism and political propaganda. Theres a difference between having a bad source and lying. Saying \"they all do it\" dismisses the differences in frequency, severity, impact, intent, and any restitution.\n\nAnyone with half a brain could figure this out: nuance and context matter.",
"hitler was very adamant about anti smoking laws. that guy that kicked you out of an elementary school for smoking a cigarette is totally comparable to hitler. ",
"You wouldn't be able to hold a sign comparing Trump to Hitler if he were anything like Hitler.",
"",
"This must be Jim Acosta’s puppet account. \n\nDon’t be so butt blasted about the president calling you on your bullshit Jim",
"Fuck off",
"they are about as right as the US Reps. in Germany, people are simply not used to right leaning politics, so some of them see them way more right, than they are.\n\nceterum censeo \"unit libertatem\" esse delendam.",
"I hate that comic. Maybe some people genuinely disagree with both extremes in a given topic. ",
"Using your logic you’re comparable to Hitler, genius. Now shut up you fucking Nazi.",
"No, we are not. \n\nNobody who ever paid attention in a high school world history course would ever say that modern day America is like post WWI Germany. \n\nThat’s completely ridiculous. ",
"Let's see what happens when Trump tries kicking out 11 million undocumented immigrants. \n\nHitler didn't start off by trying to kill 6 million Jews either. Then they realised you can't kick that many people out because noone will take them. Then they realised you can't lock up millions of people without going broke. Then you realise it's cheaper to just kill them, especially in a crashed economy. \n\nListen, fuck you for calling me a fucking idiot. But there's literally hundreds of holocaust experts who are warning us about the slippery slope we're headed down, and they're way the fuck smarter that you ever will be, asshole. ",
" Kathyrn Steinle?\n\n",
"I guess ol Eugene Scott speaks for all black people because apparently all black people are exactly the same",
"*worlds tiniest violin for your fragile eggshell being violated by truth*",
"*Ü",
"What's ironic is that the whole \"Fake News\" thing **came** from the mainstream media - when they were trying to delegitimize alternative media and scapegoat something for the rise of Trump. Trump didn't start that. Talk about something heavily backfiring.",
"How can it be just as stupid? It’s the one that asks reasonable questions. It’s the one that seems way more probable even though it’s not 100%. It’s the one that will immediately accept if there is a slight proof. It’s the one that is more analytical and skeptic. It’s the one that doesn’t get radicalized. How can you even remotely put these two in the same basket??",
"Lugenphoney ",
"Are you acting dumb on purpose? Smelling toast is a symptom of having a stroke",
"Well it won't continue once the admins sack up and ban the_donald",
"Trust me, I'm an atheist. I view organized religion as dangerous and Islam as the most dangerous.\n\nHowever, a ban isn't 'extra vetting' lmao. And Muslims are hardly the only group he discriminates against.",
"Basically everything is Russia's fault.\n\nIt's really quite impressive how such a lousy, weak country is also apparently the goddamn Illuminati at the same time.",
"Would you drop another bomb if they launched another invasion on China?\nEventually, a future leader will be faced with a choice and understanding history will be essential. ",
"Well said! A lot of Americans have been fooled by their past presidents for so long they can’t see Truth anymore, main culprit is CNN being used by past governments, CIA etc. Trump is trying to destroy that so the people can stop getting false information and being fooled, yet so many of them have fallen so hard from the constant bombardment on Trump coz CNN etc. are fighting for their lives. Many also don’t realize that there are companies and agencies who’s sole purpose is to get on posts like this and gang up on anyone disagreeing with their narrative, mega downvote etc. so that people looking for honest answers are then fooled again. Reddit is rife with them. So don’t judge by comments and downvotes, read, think, and research further. Then trust how you feel it. ",
"\"everything that does not fall within my beliefs is fascism\"\n\nThe comedy writes itself. I dont think Republicans even need to campaign for the next election, the democrats are doing it for them.",
"Oh so illegal immigrants and legal immigrants are the same thing?",
"It really does.",
"Okay fine. How's this\n\nhttp://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/\n\nhttp://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/cnn/",
"I doubt that you would have gotten substracted points since it's not false.",
"What did I say to make you think I wasnt arguing the points you made?",
"He's pro-Isreal. They aren't one and the same.",
"I don’t see how posting in certain partisan subs make you an automatic hypocrite, just seems like you don’t like opinions that are different from yours. ",
"you are just completely wrong\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRxozK6Bpvk",
"He had the potential to be a great artist, but he took the easy route \n\n-Ken M",
"dude I'm on your side and more but you sound like a whiny pretentious bitch.",
"Ya that was definitely the sign things had gone too far, when they took away the guns. /s\n\nWhat an idiot.",
"You are entitled to your personal opinion about new organizations, as is every person, including Trump. I have my own negative opinions about outlets such as Fox, and to be honest I don't have much of an opinion about other outlets like CNN or NBC because I don't watch cable news. But the difference is that Trump is using his official position, and official statements, to brand certain outlets (the ones that tend to criticize him) as \"enemies of the people.\" A leader should never attempt to undermine the legitimacy of certain news organizations because a free press is a requirement to a healthy democracy, and official government statements de-legitimizing certain outlets threatens the free press. \n\n>I think you need to have had a lot of faith in the mainstream media in order to be offended by Trump talking negatively about them.\n\nThis isn't about people being offended, or about specific media organizations. It's about the President of the United States branding media outlets that he chooses as \"enemies of the people,\" attempting to bolster public support by subverting those that are critical of him. This should be troubling behavior to everyone.",
"Fake news, Trump drinks diet coke. ",
"Who cares? If they can function, why does it matter? We don't have an official language here.",
"Are you really so upset by anything political that you are unable to scroll past posts without becoming immediately triggered?\n\nJust ignore it. ",
"You should leave Texas. ",
"I mean if you look at the numbers, the nukes did save a million lives, at least, and stopped the war before the USSR could really claim territory or influence in postwar Japan. We’re still issuing Purple Hearts that were manufactured in preparation for the land invasion of Japan. I’ll take sparing American conscripts over Japanese civilians any day, let alone during total war. Total war makes monsters of all, but the Allied forces (specifically the Commonwealth and American militaries) were certainly a tier above the Soviets, let alone the Axis. ",
"Except you’re all fat, out of shape multi gendered basement dwellers who need a safe space. Enjoy your next seven years of Hitler! 🍹",
"We're not talking about the behavior of the press, we're talking about the behavior of the President.\n\nThe fact that Trump uses the cry of \"Fake News\" as a way to deflect criticism and reinforce a false narrative is not a flaw of the press, it is Trump deliberately exploiting a flaw of the press as a way to spread lies and propaganda to the American people.\n\nHe saw these flaws and instead of saying \"We should do something to correct this\" he said \"Great, I can use this to manipulate my constituents into believing things that aren't true.\"\n\nDo you really not understand how insane and terrifying that is?",
"\"Now\" hahahahaha",
"Lol.. your liberal superiority is showing. ",
"Yep and now we use the term to describe CNN and the likes\n\nFits them like a glove\n\nI see this post is not doing well looks like finally reddit is having enough of this bullshit. ",
"Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.\n\nI think this quote is the most topical one for today of all the Nazi leader's quotes.\n\nEdit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustave_Gilbert",
"Is fake news something that is reported without source. Then after it cycles for the public to see. Backtracked with an apology? I think this has become a trend. Which looses credibility on both sides. To me it's slander. After all I am part of the 50% of Americans that were called deplorable for having a different view. The house of cards will soon fall. It's just the side calling out names is bigger than just one man this time. ",
"Don't you think that people were saying exactly that about Hitler?\n\nWhether history will show him tp have been quite as bad is beside the point. The way this looks to us now is *exactly* the way it would have looked in 1934. We have to stem the tide now or we will be repeating 1939 again before we know it.\n\nFirst they went for the socialists,\n \nAnd I said nothing, because I was not a socialist \n\nThen they went for black people,\n \nAnd I said nothing, because I was not black. \n\nThen they came for the women,\n\nAnd I said nothing, because I was not a woman.\n\nThen they came for the transsexuals,\n\nAnd I said nothing, because I was not a transsexual.\n\nThen they came for the Muslims,\n\nAnd I said nothing, because I was not a Muslim.\n\nThen they came for me.\n\nAnd there was no-one left to speak for me.",
"Atheism is the lack of belief in a god. Not the belief that there is no god, as it is impossible to prove a negative.",
"He’s smarter than you. ",
"Providing an example of different case does not prove the Nazis weren't Socialists",
"You are litterally one of the most irrational people I've ever come across. You a big fan of banning things?",
"Welt for sure is as much full of agenda as the other big magazines, but if even their polls speak against their agenda, you know what is really up. ",
"It's technically possible although I see it as highly unlikely. A constitutional convention mixed with a national crisis (another 9/11) could easily dismantle democracy.",
"I agree with that, you have a better take on the situation then most Americans imo. Well said \n\nEdit: nice ninja edit. Don’t know why you must add the additional, your point was well made already ",
"Thank god",
"Sticking your head in the sand and ignoring facts doesn't make them less true. ",
"Is it factual or not? I don't care about politicrap.com. Why even link them since it doesn't even answer my question?",
"What the hell is a \"concern troll\"? ",
"Well, see, we're at an impasse here, because I could link you to one of the many, *many* analyses reflect the historical consensus that Nazism was an example of the far right... but you would just ignore it.",
"Are you seriously inferring that *no matter the circumstances* I would EVER choose to live in the UK over America? Are you fucking simple? Are you also inferring that the quality of life gap between America and the UK is the same as America and Mexico? You must be simple.",
"Probably part of a ~~democratic party~~ batshit insane leftist campaign\n\nThey are that retarded",
"Straight out of Russian hypernormalization playbook and you couldn't be more transparent. \"everything is shit and nothing matters, be glad you're not in gulag, shut up and stop rocking the boat\"",
"That looks, inviting",
"Source!?",
"Hitler murdered hundreds of thousands of people...how can the comparison even be made?\n\nIt blows my mind that someone can compare the two. It’s like saying dropping your glass of milk had the same effect on you as the bomb on Hiroshima had on the Japanese because both made a crashing sound...",
"He is [behaving like a dictator](http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-behavior-similar-to-modern-dictators-erdogan-2017-12) and that's why he gets the comparison. Give me some source here for him basically destroying ISIS please. ",
"you're seriously a blight on humanity. get lost.",
"Fake News was a term created by the left to explain why Hillary lost. Right after the election there were lists of 'the top 10 fake stories that resulted in Trump's victory' and stuff.\n\nOr just consider this episode of [Planet Money](https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2016/12/02/504155809/episode-739-finding-the-fake-news-king), which is kind of laughable in retrospect, that they tried to claim Fake News was all about some random blogs publishing fake information.\n\n>A few days before the election, an extraordinary story popped up in hundreds of thousands of people's Facebook feeds. This story was salacious. It was vivid, filled with intriguing details. There was a photo of a burning house, firemen rushing in. The headline read, \"FBI Agent Suspected In Hillary Email Leaks Found Dead In Apparent Murder-Suicide.\"\n\n>It was all fake. There was no FBI agent. There was no shooting. The site it was published on, The Denver Guardian, isn't a real news source. It was one of many fake stories that play into conspiracy theories about the Clintons and it worked.\n\nFake news was leftist spin during the denial phase of the clinton loss. The media promoted it, but then lost hold of the tiger's tail when it became clear that Fake News was useful to explain the cherry picking of facts and the choosing of tone of news articles and stories that claimed to be objective but were partisan. It's ok to be partisan, but don't hide beneath the cloak of objective journalism, or pretend to hide beneath it, as that garment has long been lost by 99% of the media.",
"",
"This is talking about general illegal immigrants, not just DACA recipients. I agree that if the cream of the crop were the only ones allowed to stay, then it'd be a net positive. However, most kids that were brought over or born over here did not apply for DACA.\n\nIt's also a perfect example because the child in the mobile home could be a net positive for the owners of it.\n\nAs for native Americans, if we had only just arrived here and they had laws set up outlining immigration, I'd agree, but the difference is that we've had ancestry here for generations.\n\nI think that the problem is that you're looking at deportation as some kind of punishment, whereas I see it as just restoring things to how they should be from a legal standpoint. Like removing someone from private property when they're trespassing. Trespassing is probably the better comparison, actually.",
"Watch out now.. the t_d snowflakes are getting super triggered",
"> We will expose you.\n\nAre... are you Mr Anonymous?",
"Oh hey, a bunch of one sided anecdotes. You are just way too logical. \nMust be why I'm incapable of understanding how we're better off with protectionist economic policy and supply side economics. Anti evolution, anthropogenic climate change denial. Too much logic. \n\nMy conclusion must be that the OTHER side is incapable of logic. Lol. \nI am the only independent thinker in a world of sheep and totally not a snowflake",
"And I'm supposed to give a fuck? Clearly written language reads pretentiously but leaves nothing open for interpretation. ",
"Lol your whole reaction is priceless. First your like \"yeah well he just inherited a the bad stuff\" then when you are faced with the reality you can't accept your like \"the facts you listed are stupid\" then you just outright dismiss them... You lose. Pathetic. ",
"Ok so it's tricky. Is Trump as bad as Hitler? No, that's fucking stupid. He's nowhere even close to that level. \n\nBut, Trump has been using many of the same tactics Hitler used to get into power and discredit his opponents. That part is worth comparison, which is what this post seems to be doing. But, of course, the masses can't get a nuanced description like that. All they see is \"trump=hitler\" and it's all over. ",
"I think you misread my comment because I don't know what you're referring to.",
"Do you think Hitler did that stuff right off that bat? A lot of the policies that Trump wants to put in place look incredibly similar to Hitler’s early days. Like the Muslim ban.",
"I’ve never even heard of Voat. And dismissing an argument with “ha ha you’re so triggered” is pretty juvenile.",
"Yes, but all news is 100% factual. If you don't agree then you're hitler. ",
"The other side would literally willing pay more taxes to help everyone as a whole, even the people on the other side that they're voting against.",
"Hitler liked painting so everyone who likes painting is Hitler.",
"Lol liberals staying salty for two years running ",
"Well I hate trying to remember alt codes and feel like a scrub typing \"fuer\" so I gave you the benefit of the doubt.\n\nViel spass. :)",
"You just proved yourself wrong... You used rhetoric yet again. If this was actually rhetoric, then there is some perceived rhyme or reason behind it. If the reasons are different, then it isn't the same rhetoric. \n\nRhetoric doesn't just mean the same words. The two parties in America both talk about \"safety and freedom\", but it is done through two different means, while also having different actual end goals. Their \"rhetoric\" would be different. \n\nTrump happening to use a similar phrase to Hitler does not mean that he is using Nazi rhetoric. That's ridiculous.\n\nYou are confusing phrasing and word choice with rhetoric. Rhetoric is closer to something like a platform. It is language used frequently to promote or push a certain idea. ",
"But but but the left!",
"Little bit on the slow side are we?",
"Whos mans is this",
"Are you stupid on purpose?",
"He's that as well.",
"Is it fair to compare what Trump has done **so far** to what Hitler had done **after** he was done? No\n\nIs it fair to point out the fact that the beginning of Trump's rule has some remarkable similarities to that of Hitler, thus implying the obvious conclusion that it's most likely going down a similar route? Absolutely yes.\n\nYou think we're comparing their finished works. No, we're comparing their beginnings, which are indeed similar. Also, if in the end Trump doesn't kill 6 million muslims, don't think it's because he's not as evil as Hitler. It's clear he'd do it if he could, but the fact we now have a history to look at and understand what it's going to happen before it happens increases our chances of preventing it before it actually happens. ",
">One of the particular methodologies Hitler used was discrediting the press explicitly so that people would be unsure of what to believe, inoculating himself from criticism and giving him freer reign to pursue horrific policies that satisfied his nationalistic base who HATED people that were not like them.\n\nWhile I appreciate the concerns of those who think it's not appropriate for Trump to attack the press, no one has ever given me a good reason why it's wrong for him to push back against the media or specific outlets, especially in those cases where the media can be proven to have been wrong. I think it's a bit myopic and/or delusional to blame Trump for anyone having a distrust for the press. The media has done a very good job of ruining its credibility without any help from Trump or anyone else. From Jayson Blair to Dan Rather's fake Bush memo to *NBC*'s dishonest edit of the Zimmerman 911 call to *Rolling Stone's* campus rape story to...Jesus Christ I could type multiple paragraphs of why a lot of reasonable people don't trust the media that have nothing to do with Donald Trump.\n\nThe media deserves neither our implicit trust nor our respect. The media has proven time and again that they are not impartial, objective seekers of truth. Trump would not be able to effectively dismiss things as \"fake news\" if the media hadn't already undermined its own credibility.\n\nOh, and I'm sure someone at the RNC wants to send you a Thank You letter for adding \"you people are a bunch of racists/Nazis/idiots...Please Vote Democrat in 2018!\" As effective as that kind of messaging has been lately I can only encourage you and other like-minded people to keep up the good work.\n",
"I mean the comment he was replying to was referring to fox news and infowars and breitbart...\n\nSo he might have just mixed up the two",
"I mean is it really that different? It's just an accent not a separate letter?",
"Its what i do best\n\nEdit: this isnt a real edit",
"Funny you should attempt to use polling data which is obviously skewed and throttled. The same people who polled that Hillary had a 98% chance of winning lmao. \n\nDo you honesty trust polls? I mean come on lol",
">I guarantee you he won't do that.\n\n[What was that you were saying?](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/yemen-strike-eight-year-old-american-girl-killed-al-awlaki)",
"Apparently you forgot about Obama’s feud with Foxnews in 2009. CNN host Brian Stelter, who at the time in 2009 was a writer for the New York Times, called out the Obama administration for his war on Fox:\n\n——-\n\n“Attacking the news media is a time-honored White House tactic,” says media critic Brian Stelter, but “to an unusual degree,” this administration has “narrowed its sights to one specific organization,” which it has deemed “part of the political opposition.”\n\nStelter quotes a top White House staffer: “We’re going to treat them the way we would treat an opponent,” she says. “We don’t need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.”\n\n——-\n\nBefore that, after only six months into his presidency and during an interview with CNBC’s John Harwood, Harwood made mention of Obama being able to enjoy largely favorable media coverage. Obama replies, “Not so. I’ve got one television station entirely devoted to attacking my administration.”\n\n——-\n\nFunny how Trump, whom the media has tried to destroy with an unprecedented barrage of unfavorable coverage at 90% of all coverage being unfavorable, is literally Hitler for calling out the media, but then Obama, who enjoyed wide favorable coverage from the media, singled out and attacked his only critics with crickets from the leftists.\n \nFunny how Trump, who supports Israel, is literally Hitler, but then Obama, who despised Israel and condemned them publicly, is the golden child for the American leftists.\n\nWho was really more similar to Hitler?\n\n[Here is the Newsweek article](https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/when-obama-went-war-fox-news-632424%3famp=1) ",
" They're very similar to the brown shirts in tactics of forcing their ideology through intimidation ",
"OMG Hitler complained about fake news too! That's means that we can just ignore the fact that the MSM is completely full of shit and lies whenever it's beneficial to their political interests! Drumpf is finished!!!11!!1",
"But but but Hillary!",
"Pretty sure all those people saying „yes“ on that Welt poll believe the shit that Welt is spreading and see it as a media outlet of hope.",
"It’s all the salty little bitches who’s world view got upsides their heads last November. \n\nSame with the Remoaners, If it’s that bad fuck off. ",
"If any of you guys are using MacOS you can just hold down the letter on the keyboard and it gives you a menu to choose which character you want with the number keys.",
"The New York Times [wants you to accept pedophilia](http://archive.is/z5Vw0), so of course they portray the people who oppose them as the worst of the worst.",
"It’s more of a reminder that it happened already once and try not to let history repeat itself. ",
"Was it the Axis or the Allies who dropped nuclear bombs on civilian targets? Even restricting to conventional warfare, a quick look on wikipedia gives the death toll of the Blitz as about 40,000 and the death toll of the Allied bombing of Tokyo as 75,000-200,000.",
"Choo choo choose?",
"Totally irrelevant change of subject.",
"And because the universe wants to laugh at us, AfD is struggling through scandal that several of their deputies are former Stasi agents, because really, did you think that the entire Stasi was full of committed communists just a couple years after the deposition of Hitler?",
"Read “they thought they were free” ",
"I don't think I can dumb it down any further for you and, to be honest, it's not worth the effort. \n\nMy apologies. ",
"The term \"people\" also covers Nazis and Buddhists. So you just lump then into conversations together? ",
"They are both immigrants, yes.\n\n[Here's a link to a dictionary](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/immigrant) since you seem to be having trouble with how *words* work.",
"Yes it is called an analogy. Look it up, might help your arguments in the future.",
"You are obviously not very sharp. Yes, I'm establishing parallels between Trump and Hitler. No, that doesn't mean that Trump is *literally* Hitler, or that he has done all the same things Hitler did. \n\nWe're four comments deep on a discussion of a very simple fact you can't seem to grasp: making a comparison is not the same as saying two things are literally the same. Both my bedsheets and my sweater are blue, they are both made out of some kind of fabric, they both protect me against the cold. That doesn't mean I'll take my bedsheets to work.",
"> You're making a claim that I don't have \"locker room talk\" or hear crass conversation because I don't think it's okay for someone to sexually assault people by their own admission. It's actually an insane argument.\n\nNope. No I am not. How do you are using circular logic here by presupposing your conclusion.\n\n>Trump admitted to doing it.\n\nWhen, where? Show me the evidence. ",
"Faux real",
"Still Hitler was a socialist",
"This post is not poisoning the well, it's a warning that the well has been poisoned.",
"Does someone have to be literally as bad as Hitler before we can point out troubling parallels between the way they do things? I'm pretty sure Trump at his worse would be nowhere near as terrible as Hitler, but I think it's still important to be aware that he's using similar tactics in the media that Hitler used to brainwash an entire nation.",
"Oh sure, funny how I started down that road when I voted for Obama and remain independent. You guys are hysterical and living in your own imagination land where everyone who voted for Trump is the devil. Trump voters are treated similar to how the Jews were treated before Hitler started exterminating them, should we compare you guys to Hitler? No, because it's stupid both ways.",
"I’m a middle eastern guy(who looks extremely middle eastern, beard and all), with an obviously middle eastern name, living in the American South. Really, I don’t understand where people are actually experiencing this overt racism. I feel like things have stayed pretty consistent for me through the last three presidencies. I didn’t vote for Trump, I don’t like Trump, I don’t agree with him on a majority of his policies, but seriously, he’s not as bad as reddit would have you believe. I’m glad to provide proof if you don’t believe me.",
"Nö, source: am German.",
"...When he kicks out millions of illegal immigrants? You're seriously comparing kicking out illegal immigrants to murdering jews and handicapped people? You may actually be dumber than Trump.\n\n>Hitler didn't start off by trying to kill 6 million Jews either.\n\nNo, but where the fuck is the similarity between Hitler and Trump now?\n\n>Listen, fuck you for calling me a fucking idiot.\n\nWhat else can I call someone who thinks kicking out illegal immigrants means you want to murder people and create a master race? Only a fucking idiot would say this.\n\n>But there's literally hundreds of holocaust experts who are warning us about the slippery slope we're headed down\n\nLol, no.",
"Bingo",
"I think there's a difference between saying that Trump is equivalent to Hitler and saying that some of Trump's propaganda strategies have roots in Nazi propaganda -- i.e., that the last time we saw these strategies, the guys pushing them were wearing swastikas. \n\nNow, does the fact that this was a tool the Nazis used in and of itself make it bad? No. Hitler also liked dogs...doesn't make dog lovers bad people. But it does mean we ought to pause and think about what happened back then, how this strategy was used, what effect it had, and whether it's something we think is good to use here. When you do, I think we can see that actually it's a very dangerous strategy that seriously harms a democratic country.\n\nIn other words, I think we can learn the lesson of history without everything having to be a 1-to-1 comparison across the board. True, there are really big differences between then and now -- but that doesn't mean that \"then\" has nothing to teach us.",
"The name is the most common reason people get it wrong.\n\nNow, if your argument is actually \"well, think about it and you'll see how things really are!\" then congratulations, you've made a point that no one can overturn, because you're not really saying anything.",
"https://youtu.be/3ToEvz-7trY",
"“can my children be friends with white people?” \nan actual approved fucking article from the huffington post. this is how far we’ve fallen. you wouldn’t see the same article about black children anywhere, except from random blogs on the internet. this is an approved article that was publicized on their website and newspaper for god’s sake. ",
"Look at his responses, lol. His entire argument is obtuse justifications for Trump's bigotry. Him admitting that he gropes women? \"Then every guy I know is a rampant sexist.\" \n\nYou can't call actual bigots bigots anymore. \"Racism\" is a more contentious descriptor than the actual underlying actions of racism. Calling something racist is the offensive part -- not, you know, the *racism.*",
"≠",
"“Grrr I’ll just check his post history for someth-... AHA! 14 day old account you’re mine now!”\n\n-u/deusahominis",
"If we say the same lie 1000 times maybe people will start believe it and vote for us\n\n\n*Some dumb campaign adviser probably*\n\nWonder how much did this post cost\n\n",
"Largely because the Jews faced a worse rate of murder and exile than other groups, and were the principal threat as seen by Nazi Germany. “Judeo-Bolshevism” was the supposed enemy, as outlined by Hitler and others. ",
"Where does it say or even imply that we should unquestioningly trust the media?",
"No, Trump said he invented the word \"fake news\" and surely he would never lie?",
"Why the insults? Did I threaten your vision of reality? As a friend of a family with CF child- I can demonstrably state that the program is under funded, and they are worried that a bunch of political bullshit, mostly roused by trump and his budget demands for some stupid wall, is going to make it worse.\n\nTo further the point, since I now have to play the \"r/politics troll\", we've all lost. If only in the things we stood to gain. Unless you're a banker or fortune 500 CEO I guess. \n\nGreat use of \"demonstrably\" though. Kudos.",
"Yes :( ",
"Please don't compare Trump to Hitler. You're offending every Holocaust survivor and every person who fought against and gave their lives defeating Hitler. ",
"He got elected due to the electoral college. Almost like people went out and voted, or something. You need to learn how to accept reality. ",
"lol I seem to recall mountains of conservative salt during the **8 years** of Barack HUSSEIN Obama",
"It cuts both ways. There are right-wing echo chambers on reddit where they'd have you think there are roving murder-rape gangs all over America made up of Somali immigrants.\n\nEDIT: lol, this comment is already being brigaded by r/t_d lemmings. Nice",
">You are essentially patronising women by telling them they have no mind and power and can not make any decision in life if they face a man who is on par or slightly in better position. \n\nI didn't say this at all.\n\nThe exact same situation could happen, and I'm sure DOES happen, to a man. But stats show that women make up the lion's share of sexual assault victims.\n\nI also never said that they 'can not make any decision if they face a man who is **on par or slightly better position'**. Those are your words, not mine. I was talking about instances where there is a complete power imbalance. Such as, I don't know, a billionaire and a hollywood reporter?\n\nYou're SERIOUSLY trying to claim that authority figures don't ever try to take advantage of subordinate women? Are you that blind?\n",
"Hope I “amused” you for the time being ",
"I meant from the press, but yeah Trump lies too. ",
"Be careful reaching so far, you might fall on your ass.",
"The comparisons aren’t just Trump ~ Hitler, it’s more comparing the fall of democracy in each respective period. Trump’s “fake news” strategy anytime a legitimate criticism is printed just conditions people to start distrusting the legitimate news media and taking a politician’s own word as far as how people should judge their actions and what’s true/untrue. ",
"How do you function in a country where you don't even speak the language?\n\n\nWhat does someone from Maine and someone from Arizona have in common? So many states are filled with different attitudes, cultures and beliefs. \n\nThe one thing that unites us? We are all Americans.",
"Ok, so we're not talking about legal immigrants then. So, it's illegal for illegal immigrants to hold jobs in the United States. Agreed?",
"Agnosticism/Gnosticism refer to knowledge (what you know)\nAtheism/Theism refer to belief in god (what you believe)\n\nTherefore you can be an agnostic atheist (don’t have a belief in god, but don’t claim to know one doesn’t exist. Arguably the only defensible position.\n\nOR you can be a gnostic atheist (don’t believe in god and claim to know that one doesn’t exist.)",
"This comment made me curious to see if I'd missed something higher up in the comment thread so I went to look at his/her comment history. Right here /u/Notpan specifically says \"I'm not Mexican\":\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/progmetal/comments/7cg7j2/protest_the_hero_progressive_in_more_ways_than_one/dpq554r/\n\nSo, it sounds like you're full of shit.",
"I was born in 1993. I actually don't even know if I'm a millennial? I mean, I grew up without internet.\n\nI remember Clinton being the president, and Blockbuster and rewinding VHS tapes, but I DO love me some memes.\n\nI think I was born in that weird sweet spot where I'm able to be amazed by my access to limitless entertainment and information, but still understand how it works.",
"> our century-old constitutional law to respect borders\n\n\nThe U.S. had open borders for most of its existence. Three presidents - Cleveland, Taft, and Wilson - vetoed bills to impose border restrictions. As Cleveland pointed out in his veto, open immigration was traditionally considered a cornerstone of American liberty. \n\nThere is nothing “centuries old” or conservative about current U.S. immigration law. ",
"Trump has never done anything to the media other than talk shit. Meanwhile the Obama administration jailed more journalists than any other administration. \n\nI don't love Obama, I liked him but this was something he obviously struggled with. \n\nTrump just talks shit to the media that also talks shit. He was a product of the media afterall. ",
"Oh you don't care about it? Guess literally no-one is allowed to.\n\nTrump's a global joke, is this news to you? ",
"also, native americans. like WHERE THEY GO?",
"The \"reality\" is that the economy collapsed as he was taking over and it recovered during his terms. Wtf are you smoking? Things are more complicated than just disingenuously showing raw numbers. Just because thinking about how economics are more complicated than shitty meme images hurts your head doesn't change \"reality\".\n\nMy guess is that you were a small child in 2008 and you don't really know what the fuck it is you're talking about at all.\n\nDuring Obama's terms the US also had the biggest period of job growth in ages.\n\n> Pathetic.\n\nThe thought of me caring about the judgement of some dude who goes around spreading literally fake quotes is fucking hilarious.",
"Xenophobic how? President Trump brought the discussion of radical Islam along with him during his campaign. Would you not agree that radical Islam is a serious problem? (ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Muslim Brotherhood). Blaming the rest of the world? The countries where these radical Muslims migrate from are the problem. How many people became radicalized in Western Civilization? 200 million? Not even close. \n\nPresident Trump bashes the elite because he was an insider. He knows what they do, he knows their game and he's destroying them with their own knowledge. It's almost poetry how far the Democrats and RINOs have fallen since President Trump was elected. \n\nI hope you realize that the Nazis were Socialists. That's history. Socialism has failed time and time again. National Socialist German Worker's Party - so there goes your Trump = Hitler narrative. President Trump hates socialism, but Hitler's party was NAMED the Socialist party of Germany.\n\nIntellectual elites? If they were so smart, why did they predict the economy would fail, despite the opposite? How come they gave President Trump less than 1% chance of winning, despite it being a LANDSLIDE? They were cocky and it back fired. President Trump campaigned in swing states, and Hillary pandered to her audience of complacent people. \n\nDiscrediting the press? President Trump pointed out how wrong they were about everything. CNN cutting the feeds during a church ceremony where President Trump was given honors by a black community church. They don't run the stories about the countless black and hispanic people President Trump employed through the years. He was given an award by Jesse Jackson for his support of the black community. The media fails to report on these facts but continue to report him as a racist, despite the opposite being true.\n\nIs President Trump blaming Jewish people for the American economy? If President Trump is literally Hitler, why did he recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel? What a nazi for giving the Israelites what they have been asking for. \n\nWhy would President Trump ever stoop to Hitler's level? He has maintained time and time again that it is time to unite Americans together. He doesn't hire based on race or gender and has been documented time and time again. (he has the most women in his cabinet for any President - ever, the tax bill was drafted by an African American, the Surgeon General of the United States is an African American).\n\nStop living in Fantasy Land. President Donald J Trump is not Hitler and won't ever stoop so low.",
"Fair enough. I guess the fact that you said it in a public forum lead me to believe that the public could participate. I didn't realize your trolling was somehow exclusive. My mistake.",
"So relieved to see people finally beginning to compare Trump to (pre-WWII) Hitler in ways that are more than just rhetorical. \n\nTo just say ‘Trump is [a] Hitler’ loses an audience because we all tend to call anything or anyone bad Hitler or Nazi and, unbelievably, it has lost some of its sting through this hyperbole. \n\nBut, as here, when the comparison is made at a tactical level we may have some chance of alerting people to how Trump is both copying Hitler’s political tactics and, also, how much Trump’s personality, insecurities, mindset, and psychosis match Hitler’s. \n\nTrump IS Hitlerian (pre WWII) by nature not just by tactic. Trump’s personality at its core is unsuited to lead a democracy and for most of America’s history we have rejected people like Trump as simply unsuitable to be leaders in developing our Republic.\n\n",
"He put that in the name of the party because socialism was popular back then, he ended up mass murdering Communists because he was radically right wing. Hitler is as far right as you can go.",
"still 6 years short of the salt manufactured by the birthers",
"Okay...I'm not a Trump fan but comparing him to Hitler is a little strong ",
"But he's like going to gas all the minorities and the Muslims dont ya know? ",
"Snake shoes",
"If you actually read that study, you would see vox are just picking and choosing what they like.\n\nTrump supporters feel more angry when they see the black person, yet Clinton supporters put more target blame on the black person, and then they oppose help quite significantly to the white person.\n\nIt's all fine making an article, but if you're going to pick and choose points that help push your agenda then all you do is make more and more people believe in fake news.\n\nWhile it's true that trump supporters showed more anger, they also showed less blame on the black person and were more willing to help the white person.\n\nThere will always be bias, and both sides are bad. But to put an entire group of people into the term \"racists\" because the media decided to pick and choose on a study is just ridiculous.\n\nAll in all, it's quite a poorly written study, and because of that I'm not going to use it to say that Clinton supports blame black people, and hate white people. Just how I'm not going to use it to say that trump supporters get angry at black people.",
"I truly hate when Trump is compared to Hitler.\n\nHitler was an incredible leader with the worst intentions.\n\nTrump is a terrible leader with good intentions. \n\nHitler’s charisma was astonishing despite that ugly “stache”\n\nTrump has 0 charisma. He’s just brutally honest which appealed to millions who were tired of the practiced and professional liars that we call career politicians.\n\nThe only thing they have in common is that they’re both racist.",
"You can say \"trump gave speeches, and Hitler gave speeches\" and say they're the same, too though. Either way they're comparing trump to hitler. ",
"[BRRRIIINNNNGGG!!!! Yip! Yip! Yip!](https://youtu.be/KTc3PsW5ghQ)",
"The point is that I can provide different situations too, but that does not negate the argument that the Nazis were Socialists ",
"I don’t think it’s unfair to say trump is a dumb hitler, if he were as smart as Hitler was America would be fucked right now, if not many other countries too ",
"A few days ago on the UK Political board my inbox was full of right wing apologists who couldn't accept that the term \"cultural Marxism\" is intrinsically linked to nazism.\n\nApparently I won the godwin law award for saying Nazi ideas are to do with the nazis?? ",
"Only strawmen",
"The \"fake news\" term was being applied much more broadly than you're claiming. The mainstream media was using it to target legitimate media outlets that leaned right and favored Trump to try to get the social media giants to censor them, or at least downgrade their rankings, to make them not show up on news feeds on Facebook or in Google and so on.\n\nWhat Trump did was take the term and use it against the mainstream media. What \"fake news\" means in that context is that places like CNN and the New York Times are presenting themselves as simply being there to give you the news, informing you, when in reality they're incredibly biased and dishonest, and present every bit of \"news\" about politics or culture in a dishonest, biased way that deceives and manipulates the reader/viewer. Surely that qualifies as \"fake news\", since that's not the news. It's just propaganda. It's like calling Pravda \"the news\" in the Soviet Union.",
"Kind of a reach. And I don't even like the guy. ",
"Just because its an analogy doesnt make what you said true. Why so triggered, had a bad day?",
"It seems fair to point out that was the left that started complaining about \"fake news\" first. Trump just really liked the idea.\n\n(Though also to be fair, it was originally in reference to completely made up stories that circulate on Facebook and such.)",
"Worst president ever with one of the best economy’s and stock markets in the last twenty years! Sign me up I’ll get a mug out for your tears.",
"Very true. Once the press starts lying, and starts trying to control people, that does tend to produce less traditional leaders. US was lucky this time, but this shows what could have happened. It's time to stop the fake news!",
"",
"Everyone votes in their own best interest. Shocker...",
"Shifting blame doesn't make life better for these people. You are lacking empathy of what could ruin these people's lives.",
"Not straw, direct comparisons between two right wing nuts. ",
"98% means that there was a 2% chance she could lose. That 2% happened. What other simple concepts do you obtusley understand? ",
"I didn't say on this sub, or even Reddit.\n\nI have plenty of racist, southern conservative family members added on Facebook. \n\nThe comparison was made about as often as the Trump one.",
"Oh I'm not saying it didn't happen, but just not to the scale that we're legally bound to believe. Remember holocaust denial is illegal. Now why would anyone make questioning a thing illegal? ",
"Compelling healthcare workers, or anyone providing a service through labor, with which they do not consent is called 'slavery'. If they work for an employer who disagrees with their decisions, they will be fired. Otherwise, there are plenty of other medical professionals who will provide the medical services to trans people which are desired. ",
"Specific examples please",
"You are purposely oversimplifying things. There are different conversations regarding legal and illegal immigrants. Just because they are all immigrants doesn't mean they get dealt with the same way. ",
"I didn't start a partisanship thing, you did with your absolutely creepy \"deprogramming\" spiel. \n\nCNN helped Hillary cheat in a Presidential debate. Find me the \"Aliens impregnated my cat\" journos that did anything comparable \"my friend.\"",
"I think calling Trump’s doings “policies” might be a bit of a stretch.",
"Jesus you people are such pieces of shit",
"Don't forget homosexuals. They hated them too. Which is why I liken Pence to Himmler. Never trust anyone who hates homosexuals.",
"How’s the weather inside that bubble?",
"\"The point being made here\" oh please. What point? They both believe news organizations are capable of telling lies??",
"By the animals that are pouring in from shit holes ",
"We can spend all year making up a list of horrible stuff happening and I would always tell you that if your priority is to stop one of them you need to stop all of them.",
"The only purpose in calling the party socialist was to draw workers away from the actual left wing parties. [As shown in this caricature](https://my.mixtape.moe/pxkpxt.jpg) the name was chosen very deliberately.\n\nAlso, the party put any actual communists, socialists and social democrats into labour camps as soon as possible and purged the Strasserist wing in the [Night of the long Knives](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives). \n\nAnd [Gregor Strasser was the one who said that often repeated \"We are socialists...\" quote](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Gregor_Strasser) that right wingers like to attribute to Hitler. ",
"What specifically is this sign misunderstanding?\n\nAre you saying Trump's attempts to discredit the press aren't at all comparable to Hitler's attempts to do the same? \n\n",
"Ah so you're a fascist!",
"Perhaps you could give an example of when it's legal to employ someone in the U.S. who is not legally allowed to be in the country?",
"If you don't believe in god(s) then you are an atheist. Whether or not one exists and if it's possible to know it exists is a separate idea. \n\nhttps://goo.gl/images/kOl09t\n\nI found a chart that may clear confusion. Being atheist or agnostic is supposed to refer to two different ideas, one of belief and one of knowledge. Most 'atheists' would classify as an agnostic atheist, saying they don't know if a god exists but they don't believe in it.\n\nDue to some misunderstanding and colloquial use, people will use \"agnostic\" to mean 'agnostic atheist' and \"atheist to mean 'gnostic atheist'. These are also referred to as weak atheism and strong atheism, respectively.",
"Yeah fuck the dems, party of climate change is a chinese hoax and net neutrality is the obamacare of the internet and 85% of massive tax cuts going to the rich and corporate while wealth inequality is already unprecedented and border walls Mexico will pay for and their literal propaganda news network telling it's less-informed-than-non-news-watching viewers they can't trust a thing anyone else says... shit wait.",
"The Art of Deal is basically Mein Kampf. Amirte guiz?",
"The article you're referencing wasn't even published by the Washington Post bud. That was the Wall Street Journal",
"Says the guy that can't tell the difference between legal and illegal. ",
"DAE TRUMP IS LITERALLY HITLER REEEEEE",
"the posts that make it on the r/all are somewhat well deserved. if you browse the actual sub, it becomes apparent that it’s just the right leaning version of r/politicalhumor except the posts that make it to the front page are actually good posts. ",
"“I’m automatically attracted to beautiful women — I just start kissing them, it’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything,\" he said in the 2005 conversation. \"Grab 'em by the pussy.\"",
"Maybe even add some sort of system where people can vote on things and the most popular ones go to the top?",
"Im not sure if the exact usage is that important, trust in the press is at a all time low according to polls, a big share of the country knows that the press is deceiving them, which they did in comical proportions. I agree on the poll part, only that Welt is actually left leaning, yet their polls with giant sample sizes (40-100k) show that their opinions are far from what people think. Id never trust a poll voting in favor of the medium it is on, youre totally right about that. ",
"Perhaps that’s because the incredibly biased mainstream media is LYING lol. They’re bull shit stories are debunked numerous times *every single day*. They’re the most predictably pathetic institution in America. Yet inner city pompous fucks take wapo/nyt/cnn/msnbc/etc as the sacred gospel fueling their trump derangement syndrome.\n\nKnow that the silent majority of this country is wise to it, and most of us are laughing at the hysterics of leftists. ",
"Instead of just emitting verbal diarrhea, how about you bring some points on why you think President Trump is comparable to Mussolini? Don't make points without having evidence to back them up.",
"It was originally about that but the mainstream media started applying it much more broadly to try to get the social media companies to downgrade/censor legitimate media outlets that just happened to lean right and favor Trump. They were deliberately conflating the fake news you're talking about with regular right-leaning media outlets.",
"They were putting some of the right wing news sites like Daily Caller and The Blaze in the same category as satire sites like The Onion and Duffel Blog, then trying to get anything they deemed \"fake news\" from news aggregators.",
"\"The advertisements are the most truthful part of a newspaper.\"\n\nThomas Jefferson = Hitler?",
">A one man one party dictatorship over all of the economy \n\nThe soviet economy under Marxism-Leninism with Stalin at the helm. Stalin.\n\n>democratically elected politician pushing for stronger welfare and regulations\n\nSocial democrats, not Marxists, not socialists, working towardss creating a friendly form of capitalism. Sanders.\n\n>people who want nothing less than all economic power to the people with no middlemen or dictators\n\nAnarchists, not Marxists, not statists, seeking the near instantaneous abolition of all unjustified authority, including state authority over the economy and the state itself.\n\nThere's a reason why all these folks are put in distinctly different categories. They don't just differ on social policy, they differ on economic policy as well. The *only* thing these groups have in common is, at least in theory, the desire to have a fairer society, and they even differ on that to a degree. \n\nThey're radically different ideologies no matter how you slice it. Using the failures of the Soviets to criticize Sanders or anarchists is downright absurd.\n\n\nEdit: Let me clarify that. The overwhelming majority of the Soviet, and any other Marxist Leninist failures were a result of government and beurocratic neglect and failure. These institutions do not exist with anarchism, and the function of these institutions is radically different with social democracy.",
"Sorry but who the fuck are you arguing against? Who was saying this makes Donald Trump Hitler?\n\nCan't stand this fucking strawman bullshit. ",
"Obama was born in Kenya.... but yeah let’s forget that fact because he’s a black man and we are liberals, to agenda we push ",
"> You have NO basis to claim what he was saying didn’t happen. None.\n\nI *always* have a basis to claim something didn't happen unless you provide evidence that it did. Burden of proof is on the claimant.\n\nYou literally came to my house and sexually assaulted me 5 minutes ago. Please provide evidence that this didn't happen or we'll all have to assume it's true, sorry. <- This is your argument.\n\nAlso I find it completely disgusting that you believe me arguing for the basic principles of discovering the truth would ever imply that I have anything but complete respect for EVERY other human on the planet. Seriously, how fucking mature of you.",
"For it to BE a campaign you’d need to be REPEATING the term ‘fake news’ and then getting your representatives to ALSO use the term. You’d have to raise it multiple times in interviews over a long period (a year at least) and you’d have something like an award ceremony or official list of ‘fake news’ incidents, you’d ban the news media from entering the White House on occasion, throw them out of meetings and allow other non-reputable news sources in response as well.\n\nHas ANY of that happened?\n\nSource: ex-campaign director.",
"Saying no isn't wrong, saying no because another place is worse is fallacious",
"Damn u democrats",
"Ehh. If Trump does something extremely bad then I'm not voting for him again. Like if he killed millions of Jews. Ya know... Cuz he's literally Hitler. ",
"Are you joking around, or are you a complete fool? Hamburg was hit as hard or harder than any Allied city; Cologne, Dresden, and others were also bombed heavily. Not to mention Tokyo, which was perhaps 5 times the scale of the Blitz. ",
"I‘m sorry, I meant it as a joke. Sorry if it wasn‘t obvious",
"He does. It’s part of him being boisterous and loud and in your face but that being said the media uses their “anonymous sources” to spread lies and untruths to the public. Which is more harmful?",
"I agree. Obama accomplished the least amount of any president in history.\n\nYou should become Jewish and time travel back to Europe during WW2 and experience that hell, your tune would change. You don’t have a fucking clue what you are talking about",
"Sources? The first point is obviously false at the very least, but I shouldn't have to go through and debunk it all because it's been done to death already.\n\nhttp://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39172635\n",
"We're both human beings, we both lived in the 20th century, we're both European, we both were at Berlin at least at some point in our lives. Look at that, yeah, you can compare me to Hitler. \n\nI never tried to undermine the free press in the interest of my self-preservation in power regardless of the socio-political ramifications, so in this regard you can't really compare us :/",
"It disrupts the fabric of law to ignore someone breaking the law just because they are useful. If you don't like the law, then campaign to change it but until then, it should be enforced. Her situation is not one that all immigrants share and should not be used to apply a general decision to all of them.",
"The media bullies trump... he doesn’t make it any easier on himself, but you can’t pretend that the media has ever given him a fair shake https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XqEddipbpkw",
"The sign in OP's pic isn't saying that they're morally the same or have the same impact, merely pointing out that this particular tactic is one which they have in common and that it should be reviled in both cases. ",
"You know what else Hitler wanted? Gun control. So I guess that means the Democrats are all Nazis!",
"Oh my, you’re serious. Well lol to you ",
"5s on AP Us and Euro history. I am no ignorant fool. Wake up sheeple!",
"Christ, come the fuck on. ",
"Are you aware that you're trying to relativize the press spreading false information depending on what side of the political spectrum they are here?\n\nCNN has a clear political agenda, and so does Fox News. Both twist and turn news the way they see fit, and they know what they're doing.\n\nYou can try to make up as many excuses as you like, both are guilty of the same crime. But apperently you're only allowed to call one side out for it, do it for the other and you're a nazi.",
"What about the drone strikes by Obama? We're on 8 year old girls killed from them?\n\nAnd of course Obama will approve them strikes. \n\nIt's quite funny how hysterical the media, and the world goes over trump. In war there are **always** unwanted casualties. No matter who the leader is. And I bet that trump did not want to kill that 8 year old child.",
"I would say Hitler burning down the Reichstag and putting himself in \"temporary\" power gave him freer reign than discrediting the press.",
"Fwiw,. Don has pointed out a few amazingly fake and unverified stories that have been put out. ",
"Similarly, when people say \"I think that Democrats and Democrat voters are just as bad as Republicans and Republican voters. I really consider myself more of a moderate or a centrist, and I just don't think there are many of us left.\"\n\nWell great, I'm glad you found a way to feel superior to 94% of the voting public without actually having to take a stance or do anything consequential about the problems we face.",
"But that first one doesn't say \"he's had nothing to do with it.\" It says:\n\n>This is a flip-flop for Trump. Before he was elected, he dismissed the stock-market performance under Obama as “artificial” and “a bubble.\" Moreover, the U.S. rise in 2017 was not unique. When looking at the Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index, it’s clear U.S. stocks haven’t rallied as robustly as their foreign equivalents. Moreover, with each 1,000-level increase, the accomplishment gets increasing less impressive.\n\nIf Donald was so honest and everyone else was just making up lies to discredit him, why would he spend so much time and energy screaming fake news? Wouldn't the facts on any matter speak for themselves? When someone tells you to trust them and no one else, that everyone else is lying, your initial instinct should be to mistrust them. \n \n ",
"Keep it up kid. ",
"What an abomination. All you people comparing a democratically elected president to one of the world’s most brutally fascist dictators need to open a fucking history book. Rhetoric is rhetoric and you could draw a parallel between Hitler and Obama if you wanted to. The current state of the mainstream media is a laughing stock, and we all fucking know it.",
"CNN doesn't do that. They mix the fake news with accurate information so that people are more likely to believe the fake part. That's how the pros do it.",
"And here comes the personal attacks after failing to defend own argument.",
"He was and probably still is a Muslim spy",
"We're taking your fascist piece of shit down, and his corrupt profiteering assholes with him. Call it whatever you like, the result will be the same. ",
"Why? I really don't care about protecting white culture. Why should anyone? Does the color of your skin really matter that much to you?",
"You call people racist when they are showing no signs of racism. \n\nMorally repugnant!!",
"There would be a victim though, if the net economic impact of illegal immigration was negative for the country - which hasn't been proven/disproven that I'm aware of. The point is that it isn't certain if there are victims are not.\n\nOne might argue that those who are trying to legally immigrate are being victimized as they are spending money/time attempting to follow the laws and are not receiving the benefit that those who are breaking said laws are receiving.",
"Well, they are way more right leaning if you compare them to the political middle in each country. So while they may be just as far to the right, AfD deviates much more from the norm.",
"As an aside, how have Palantir not been sued into oblivion by the Tolkien estate? I was under the impression that Christopher Tolkien is incredibly litigious about exactly this sort of thing.",
"Yet",
"So if the politician sued the press, you wouldn't consider that attacking the press? How tf do you reckon that?",
"There are atheists who replied to my comment who beg to differ, you can redirect your argument there.\n\nYou guys can get back to me once you decide what Atheism is.",
"Except in this case the major press is bought by politicians ",
"Get your straw man argument out of here, no one is even remotely saying what you claim. If you can’t tell the difference between shouting “fake news” and checking your sources then I don’t know what more to say to you. ",
"Let people reach. The whole Nazi = Republican witch hunt has spread too far to fight the reddit masses.",
">people who disagree with me are, by definition, young and stupid. Because no *adult* could ever disagree with me, an intellectual. ",
"Well Trump is using it in its original form. CNN and their globalist propaganda counterparts spew out nothing but lies to try to take down a dually elected president. If you take the time to look you will see each and every lie for what it is. They are engaged and conspiracy to commit treason.",
"\"Nobody is saying trump is hitler\" um... Yes they absolutely are. ",
"I agree with you but remember Hitler was democratically elected ",
"Step back and watch it burn. You were merely the aerosol can in the tire fire.",
"Hitler wasn't the first politician to have rhetorical skills nor the first one to use hatemongering for political gain.\n\nYou just described 90% of all world leaders.",
"wut?",
"but they said \"No\" - thats the point",
"Fascist regimes *always* begin with the leader supporting the right of the people to be armed.",
"Oh because conservatives are famously creative now? Fuck off",
"Do you have sympathy or empathy for Trump supporters wanting a secure border for a safer America? ",
"I look at his twitter.",
"Go away bot, nobody likes you",
"You earnestly believe that there *should* never arise a situation where those event will occur again?",
"Reddit and their propoganda lol",
"says the man with a distinct lack of an argument.",
"Well just because Nazism used a phrase or idea doesn't mean that phrase or idea is intrinsically part of a single ideology. Don't get me wrong if you're just gonna throw around lebensraum, Bolshevik liars and the solution then yeah you're probably a nazi. But depending upon context you can't just call something a nazi idea. As most ideas don't resonate with just one specific political ideology.",
"So why is President Trump being compared to Hitler? Where are the concentration camps? Where are the ghettos? Where are the private police force arresting people? Where are the posters comparing people to rats? Where are the mass murders? Where are the mass graves? \n\nGet your head out of your behind and bring some points to the table before you puke out blatant lies.",
"Replying so I can come back when this comment blows up in your face. :)",
"Who's teaching a generation that Trump is the exact same person as Hitler? You are exaggerating. ",
"What rally was that? I don't keep up with the goings on of t_d, but I'm hesitant to believe that it was an actual nazi rally given your very... generous use of the word.\n\nAs for blaming Soros, from what I can tell that has to do with \"muh liberal media\" than him being a Jew, at least that's what they say and I'm not a mind reader so I'll take them on their word for that.",
"As soon as you start a statement saying that everyone outside of Fox News is biased, you deserve to be looked at like you're an idiot. \n\nAnd btw it's not even because Fox News is stupidly biased (which it of course is). It's because as soon as you say one source or one small subset of sources, all of which only say the same thing, are the only reliable sources, you've purposely shut yourself off from learning what's actually going on and should therefore be looked at like you're an idiot. ",
"Honestly at some point it just gets annoying. \n\nTalking to my German friends I just use *u* cause ue looks unnatural and I can't be asked to install a German keyboard ",
"Yet you are still comparing the 2... step back for a second and read what others are trying to tell you, damn.",
"> Using the failures of the Soviets to criticize Sanders or anarchists is downright absurd.\n\nAs far as intentional genocide and civil rights violations, absolutely it's irrelevant for Sanders. (Though exceptionally relevant for Antifa and Social Dems)\n\nBut economically, all forms of socialism end the exact same way... because you eventually run out of other people's money...",
"Hitler- Guten tag (Good day) \n\nObama- good day",
"So your evidence of him being right wing is mass murder? ",
" [Calling for more Lebensraum while defending Holocaust deniers](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eGHsvRwHMI), [saying that we were driven into WW2 by the Polish](http://www.rbb-online.de/kontraste/archiv/Kontraste-27-10-2016/Reichsbuerger-Gedankengut_in_der_AfD__.html), [desire to rehabilitate a deeply racist term](http://www.dw.com/en/afd-co-chair-petry-wants-to-rehabilitate-controversial-term/a-19543222) , [doing an extremely racist speech](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=487wMXiRARU), wishing for [\"a thousand years of Germany.\"](http://www.dw.com/en/germanys-afd-unites-old-conservatives-with-radical-right/a-18802468), stating that [the jews are the inner enemy while the islam is the outer enemy of germany](http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/antisemitische-thesen-von-afd-abgeordneten-gedeon-14268327.html) and the [The Protocols of the Elders of Zion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion) are legit, [complimenting the \"wise politics\"](http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/bernd-pachal-aus-marzahn-hellersdorf-afd-fraktionsvize-lobt-kluge-politik-der-nazis/14989222.html) of [Reinhard Heydrich](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Heydrich) [\"from the very first moment he set the right course/ the german expression he used is \"weichen stellen\" for setting the right switches to navigate on train tracks], [to pity the ban](http://i.imgur.com/6CZqjsE.png) on [Arbeitslager](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbeitslager)\n\n\nthis list was very(!) incomplete and is several months old, since then there were tons of other statements by them including sovereign citizens conspiratard bullshit by one of their top candidate while the other put statements out that the twelve years of nazi reign shouldn't have a part in the \"german identity\" but we should be proud on the [achievements of german soldiers in WW2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht) \n\n\nSome outlook on the new afd MPs:\n\nJens Maier, thinks \"mixed people are erasing national identity\"(It has more of a NSDAP vibe in German, from the words he used) and sympathizes with Pegida, Identitarian Movement and NPD.\n\nPeter Boehringer: believe of an controlled as in coordinated islamization of europe by saudi-arabia and published at pi-news\n\nWilhelm von Gottberg: murder on european jews is just an \"efficient instrument to criminalize the Germans\", \"the cult with the guilt\" should stop.\n\nBeatrix von Storch: requests gun use at the borders, is against abortions and thinks the climate change isn't real.\n\nThomas Seitz: Calls refugees \"Migrassor\"(aggressor + migrants), wants to call black people nigger.\n\nThomas Goebel: \"The german [Volksgemeinschaft](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksgemeinschaft) is sick and suffers from an infestation of moochers and parasites who want to eats the flesh of the bones from the German people. \"Historic guilt\"(in relation to WW2) exists for people who never suffered to get money from people who never did anything\", the federal government is importing on purpose as \"migration weapon\" to initiate a mix-up of people, [Umvolkung](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umvolkung) of Germans and last but not least Volkstod(Death of the people, a neonazi term), homo marriage isn't for homosexuals but rather another part of islamization(don't ask me for logic), true goal of it is polygamy and possible child brides to accommodate the refugees.\n\netc etc etc\n\n\nI assume even the GOP won't have such antisemitism, and that they won't celebrate actual fucking Nazis.",
"Africa has its own host of problems, that doesn't mean that any problems we face should be ignored nor does it mean your problems should be ignored.",
"The difference is the press is actually lying. ",
"It was cool when this sub wasn't a bunch of tools pushing their political agenda.",
"Hitler enjoyed 1 ice cream scoop\n\nTrump fancies 2 ice cream scoops\n\nLiterally 2x worse than Hitler!!!",
"Exactly. These posts have zero photographic value. This sub has special flair for verified professional photographers, but you could take a picture of a turd with a messy blond wig with a 40 year old polaroid, then take a picture of that with a 20 year old digital camera and still hit the front page.\n\nThere ARE good photographs that can be of politicians or political in nature, but these pictures of signs people liked at a protest or what amount to pictures of memes are just ridiculous.",
"Remember Kathy Griffin holding up Trump's severed head? Remember the Shakespeare in the Park staged Trump execution? Now picture what would've happened if that were Obama, the media would have gone ballistic.",
"I definitely appreciate the work you put into this response, so you have my respect even if I think you’re being ridiculous. \n\n\nBut in everything you just wrote, it basically was a manual on how to prevent a President from NOT becoming a dictator, which is what our founding fathers wanted....so kudos to them?\n\nAlso, Trump using executive orders to become tyrannical? How many times did Obama bypass Congress? Didn’t Obama use the IRS to harass Republicans and potentially law enforcement? No one in their right mind would call him Hitler, and I’m sure you had no problem with either of those things. \n\nAlmost everything in your response is pure speculation. So say he does become the dictator of the US, what’s his next step that makes him Hitler? Invade our neighboring countries? Murder all of the liberals?\n\nThe man is 70 years old, he’s a murderous lunatic who has been in the public eye for 40 years and we never knew it? Give me a break. ",
"Well Hitler didn't start rounding up Jews on day one of his leadership either...",
"Sensationalism is what I would call it but extremism is definitely mixed in there.",
"Well I thought we were talking about the Holocaust specifically.",
"He did do a lot of horrible things in his first year. The first concentration camp was opened just months after he assumed power ",
"they succeeded with calling out the media with the phrase “it’s okay to be white.” then the nazis started to use it and now the media can’t separate the phrase from the alt right despite the phrase itself not being a racist statement. ",
"How? What I've said is true already. The wiretapping claim has been thoroughly debunked. ",
"Try it. Why can’t you just give it a shot?",
"Yes.",
"Sad thing is the press was probably actually doing their jobs back then. We pretty much don't even have press anymore. It's all hyped, opinionated garbage. Hell, even AP can't be trusted all the time now and they're the most barebones news outlet there is ",
"And it's not true...the media hasn't been portraying him in the worst manner possible? Damn near everything they've said about him is either stuff from 20yrs ago or stretched out. They make Shillary look like a princess, Obizzle like a prophet and Trump like the devil.",
"Lol, when you select the criteria for comparison it's easy to equate anything.\n\nYou're a human, so was Hitler.\nYou're probably male too, guess what? So was Hitler.\nYou have political opinions, so did Hitler. Guess you're Hitler, huh.\n\nObviously I'm being facetious, but that's the point. Here's a more relevant one.\n\nThe Nazi party was very big on identity politics and collectivism. Trump practically ran opposed to these things.",
"LITERALLY HITLER! THIS PROVES IT!\n\nBy the same time next year all illegal immigrants will be in concentration camps. /s",
"Don't you see his name? \"RUoffended\", rusky offended hehe\n\nHe also doesn't know history it seems :P ",
"I very much doubt it. German consulate printed my work visa and changed my ü to u, not to ue.",
"Big lie if true ",
"I hate the guy, but somehow it's become a thing.",
"I'm pretty sure you don't really grasp the concept of rhetoric so it might behoove you to take a cursory glance at it's [wikipedia article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetoric).\n\n> If the reasons are different, then it isn't the same rhetoric.\n\nThey are not, and if you don't mind I'll quote myself here:\n\n>[...] the only reason they had to undermine the press is to negate the power it might have over them.\n",
">And I bet that Trump did not want to kill that 8 year old child.\n\nYeah, that's why he promised, during a GOP debate, to kill noncombatant relatives of terrorists. Wake up dude.",
"So wait, are we now comparing Trump to HITLER when the \"Fake News\" has been proved to be... hmmm whats the word.... FAKE?!?! CNN botching the dates on the wikileaks email.... or the russian probe which ended up exposing hillary more.... or Brian ross!?! LMAO. Fuck whoever made this sign",
"The new press view themselves as activists, and activists are fair game.",
"If thats what you want to believe because you have no points. Other than saying \"its an analogy so im right\" LUL",
"I wish I could.",
"It's a time honored tradition on the left to compare Republican US Presidents and Presidential candidates to Hitler. I heard people calling Mitt Romney a Nazi and comparing him to Hitler and that guy was the most milquetoast, middle of the road candidate I can recall.",
"oh my bad my dude, sorry bout that",
"And it lessens what Hitler actually did. If Hitler did at the what Trump is doing now, we wouldn't have had WW2.",
"No, something like r/Europe or justiceserved is mainstream with a mixed community, rPolitics or politicalhumor or all the anti trump subs on the frontpage are pure echo chamber. The difference is instantly noticeable. Even the difference between worldnews and rpolitics is enormous although worldnews is getting worse too. ",
"The idea that you consider gathering more information regarding a fact or viewpoint to be \"prejudiced\" terrifies me. It's what concerns me about many conservatives. ",
"Halt die Fresse\nLügenpresse",
"It was something he advocated since his 18th or so, though, as well as Lebensraum and a war against Bolshevism. I do see the totalitarian aspects of Trump's way of governing, but a comparison to Hitler is absurd.",
"The atheist who believes there is no god must provide proof.\n\nThe atheist who lacks belief one way or the other is the intelligent one, they don't need proof because they are not making a claim.",
"Has Trump ever criticized any non left wing media outlet (like Fox News and Brietbart), and if yes, with what percentage does he criticize right wing medias compared to left wing ones?\n\n**Genuine question**, perhaps someone has some numbers about it.\n\nEdit: downvoted for no reason, but considering that OP posts on T_D, no surprise there. ",
"If you can’t see that he is a racist pig already, there is nothing I could say to make you realize the truth. ",
"Oh my god, they said the same thing! HOLY CRAP!",
"\"The sky is blue\" - Adolf Hitler\n\n\"The sky is blue\" - Donald Trump",
"He got elected because of the things he does and says.\n\nYou still don't understand it as a result of propaganda.",
"We're from El Salvador, though I'm sure the distinction doesn't matter to you.",
"I remember being told Obama was a literal demon.\n\nWhat thefuck was your point exactly? ",
"I believe they are equally undesirable to have happen. I fully believe that humans will exploit and destroy each other for individual gain until we go extinct.",
"That's because the people posting there aren't interested in politics, they're stimulus addicts using \"politics\" as a cover for their fix. \n\nThey're interested in (well, \"hooked on\" is more accurate) the gratuitous hits of dopamine from moral outrage and apocalyptic fantasy role-playing. \n\nI'd bet that for all their complaining about Trump, they know deep in their hearts that they've never felt more alive. ",
"some people might see fire, others may see light. To a far left liberal, building a wall might be a forest fire. to the far right it's a ray of light shining from the heavens. to a moderate person it might be a flashlight or a bonfire. If you constantly yell forest fire, only the people who see a forest fire are going to believe you. The ones that simply see lights will laugh at you, and the ones who just see a bonfire might just say \"well that's a bit of an overreaction...\" You might even push them towards seeing the bonfire as more of a source of light than heat.",
"You know what Hitler did when he was very young? He painted. Therefore artists are literally Hitler.",
"No it's because you see the stupidity and want to distance yourself from that bullshit because you realize how wrong it is and what they're actually pushing for. \n\nNothing to do with spiting them. ",
"The reality is that most conservatives already rejected the MSM long before Trump and the term “fake news”. CNN/ABC/NBC/CBS/MSNBC/PBS/NPR/NYT/Washington Post perpetrated too many outright lies against conservatives for too long for us to believe them any longer. Take them out of the news mix and there’s not much left. \n\nIt was time for someone to come out and say it, and Trump did. ",
"He's trying to abolish the free press and has set about gutting most the government agencies. People are rightfully worried and the most convenient regime we can point to as an example of what could eventually happen was Hitler's. \n\nThe Soviet Union was gutted by Kleptocrats and that is actually the best comparison of what's going on imo, but that comparison is harder to make to republicans, probably because they've been arguing for free markets etc. My fears have more to do with oligarchs like Devos and others fucking over the poor by privatizing prisons, schools and eroding the middle class further. \n\nThe racism is more a tactic used to keep the right wing supporting their privatization policies and keeping the population divided. The best person to describe what's going on would be someone who lived in Russia in the early 2000's and watched a budding democracy turn into what they have now in ten short years.",
"Yeah, I should edit it",
"Not every illegal immigrant is a Dreamer though. You can't determine what the net benefits are without looking at the whole population. I am not sure of what the whole picture shows, but am open to suggestion.",
">all forms of Socialism run the exact same way\n\nI literally just explained how they *don't*\n\nAnarchists want *no state,* no government, no beurocracy, no socialist boogeymen coming to your door to collect taxes. They want *direct worker control* of the economy. That's about it.\n\nThe Soviets did not want this. Sanders does not want this. These are *radically different no matter how you slice it.*",
"I don't really care where conservatives hearts lie which is to say \"what they want to do\". If they were just looking to enforce our current laws (e.g. immigration laws) then the only thing they would be doing is increasing funding to do so. Instead they are making all kinds of changes to how visas and green cards are awarded, putting forth a \"90 day Muslim ban\" so they have time to \"see what is going on\" (been working on that for ~365 days), and more generally revamping what countries people will be immigrating from.",
"Nope I don't know what he was trying to say there. It was a lie, or at least a \"mistruth\" if we want to talk in delicate media terms. \n\nSo yes he lied about that sure. But that's not the same as fabricating a news story. That doesn't mean it was a fake news story. He still reported on a story with the facts, illegal or not. ",
"Solution is easy then. The news should report actual news instead of misleading and patently false “news”. ",
"How much do you consider the daily show on Comedy Central to be an actual news program? ",
"I agree there",
"Anybody who supports trump is a traitor. He's a Russian asset and he publicly asked a foreign power to hack Americans during his campaign. His attacks on our constitution are as anti american as you can get",
"Immigrants take jobs we don't want is statistically false. I have no problem with immigrants maintaining aspects of their home culture as long as they attempt to become American.",
"It's honestly comedy at this point ",
"Hahahahahahahahahahah conservatives are the most illogical and emotional crybabies in existence. ",
"Judging from your profile, you seem to be a firm believer in this “race”",
"Obama shows birth certificate, conservatives manufacture stories that the certificate is doctored. And here we are again...\n\nhttps://steemitimages.com/DQmRDe4SgY7T3RnrPBDZTDN2SRFPTHLFw5ZuUB67qtJB13A/5986d8f8850dc2627900e4d941705219.jpg",
"No but antifa are using brown coat tactics to intimidate others. If you cant see this tell me what bash the fash and punch a nazi are all about.",
"i would wager stalin being somewhat comparable to hitler. his kill count completely overshadows that of hitler’s (25 million compared to 8 million) ",
"No what that false polling meant was that trump had essentially no chance of winning, when the fact was that Hillary was never going to win. It was an attempt to make republicans feel hopeless and lower their voter turnout. \n\nAre you following? Or should I continue to describe these incredibly blatant and simple facts to you? Fuckin pretentious cunt, you have no clue lmao",
"",
"A lot. Within months of Hitler taking office, the first concentration camp was established. \n\nBefore the outset of war Jews were stripped of a lot of their rights. \n\nIf you truly think Hitler was just a chill guy up until WW2 you need to read a history book ",
"This is the exact purpose of the phrases, to create doubt within the people to not trust the news, but to trust the person calling it 'fake news'. Why should we trust Trump more than we trust the news? Trump would say because fake news.",
"Fair enough. That's not a very high standard though",
"I think Trump would do something close to what Hitler did if it was 1942 he was doing meth and got a little more paranoid...",
"LMAO\n\nAnd we're done. You win most retarded comment of the year. We can shut down Reddit until 2019.",
"Why don't they go to the police?\n\nMale feminists are just thirsty betas, eventually they get a little too thristy and realize their plan ain't working and start getting extra touchy.\n\nWhat man is going to side with a movement that wants to make him inferior?",
"Ill come on you. Where you want it? Tits?\n\n\nSeriously though. If we don't instantly jump to an authoritarian state then it is out of the realm of possibility?\n\nIt is exactly this complacency and unshakeable faith in American 'righteousness' that will seal our fate. Are we going to necessarily turn into a dictatorship ? No. Is it smart to assume we are immune from these forces. Fuck no.",
"Great debate. See ya later",
" I II\n II L",
"I don't think those post would even qualify as speech.",
"For anyone reading along this discussion who didn't check out the study in question: what he said in no way reflects what's actually in the study. I don't know why he's saying something that's so easy to disprove. My best guess is that he's counting on people just nodding along to what he's saying and not actually checking for themselves.\n\nQuoting the source of the data:\n\n>Among citizens with favorable views of Donald Trump, black racial cues increased opposition to mortgage assistance, anger at such assistance, and the tendency to blame policy targets for their own plight. In contrast, among citizens with unfavorable views of Donald Trump, black racial cues had the opposite effect: decreased opposition to mortgage assistance, anger and individual blame. **Importantly, these effects were exclusive to attitudes toward Trump: effects of the racial cue did not differ according to feelings about Hillary Clinton.** Thus, Trump supporters and opponents respond in fundamentally different ways to racial cues in the environment.",
"If we could stop comparing our wonderful country to Nazi Germany, that would be great. ",
"Obama did more of something in 8 years than trump did in 1 year? ",
"No, it's actually the same conversation. You can crack down on illegal immigration all you want, but that won't stop people from trying. Both sides need addressing. If legal means are simpler, the incentive to come illegally will be lower.",
"Diet Hitler if you will, a similar taste with less of the really negative effects.",
"Couldn’t’ve*",
"I’m young enough that Hitler killed my great grandparents. I studied political history in Poland, and I’ve visited just about every concentration camp that remains standing and open to the public.\n\nMen like Hitler don’t just rise to power and commit acts of genocide in a year, or two years, or five. They begin by destroying the free press, creating an alternative narrative of facts with a propaganda machine that tramples on dissent.\n\nTrump’s propaganda arm via Twitter, breitbart, Fox News, etc. have effectively brainwashed a large portion of our country to automatically dismiss rational critiques of his political affiliations and actions. And *as we speak* the man is attempting to consolidate his simple majority power in the Senate. It seems small, but it’s a step down an extremely dangerous path that has no room for opposition. Trump himself has suggested cracking down on libel laws (re: Wolff’s exposé) and the threat is very real. \n\nI’m not saying he is just like Hitler, I’m saying we need to be extremely careful to preserve the legitimacy of our free press because the consequences are very serious. ",
"Is what they wrote serious? I can’t tell if it’s sarcastic or they are seriously this far gone.\n\nTrump smashed all of Obama’s policies and this dude thinks that Obama’s policies are helping us right now? \n\nHow can they be helping if they don’t exist anymore",
"I like how your statement isn't taking either side in any way, and is only criticizing the practice of insulting people instead of making actual arguments, but is somehow still one of the most controversial comments in this whole thread.\n\nTells you a lot about the current state of political discourse.",
"Ah ok thanks I'm currently trying to learn the language and this helps a lot",
"It's actual",
"Speaking of emotionally underdeveloped, look who is in the whitehouse.",
"Haha are you seriously complaining that he didn't ignore your obvious hypocrisy out of some weird sense of fairness? ",
"This is so fucking dumb. \n\nAll the top posts here for the past few days have been monumentally cringe inducing. I'm not even a fan of his, but like, enough already. Nothing I've seen here is productive or edgy or interesting, it's just a retarded national circlejerk that only serves to deepen the division in this country. ",
"The Charlottesville rally.",
"Karma grab duh",
"It’s overblown, yes, but it’s exaggerating to point out how history can easily repeat itself. At least that’s just my take. We’d obviously like to think Trump won’t round up all the immigrants and execute them like we’d like to think he won’t start a nuclear war with Korea, yet history has shown that this can be a very real possibility especially in the hands of a “Stable Genius” backed by an incompetent Republican Congress. ",
"Of course not. If you believe the news isnt 100% factual then you're literally hitler. ",
"The press is lying, however",
"Ok thanks",
"Are you serious? Like, without being rude, do you actually have autism or some other mental disability? I'm honestly not trying to use that as an insult.\n\nIt just boggles my mind that you think a couple of guys lying their asses off for shits and giggles would make you think they actually do anything that they say.\n\nWhen you watch actors on TV, do you think the characters they're playing are real people?",
"LE DRUMPF IS FINISHED AFTER THIS ",
"Kim jong un is the next hitler on our hands though, dude literally has concentration camps full of his own citizens and nobody does anything ",
"Oh 100%. We are so insanely divided and self serving believable. Closed mindedness on each side and the finger pointing has reached insane levels. ",
"Yea but you got all that other stuff checked off and that’s all I need, Nazi scum!",
"You forgot the part where Hitler was democratically elected. It is in the same history books you just told us to read.\n\nYou should have known.",
"Did you read my other comment? \n\nI said that at the time, people were very angry at Isis, etc. He was acting like this to get voters from people who were angry.\n\nIt's political strategy, I don't believe he actually believes that. He might, but he might not.\n\nDo you blame Obama every time a kid died from his drone strikes? I bet you didn't, this shows your \"trump derangement syndrome\". You're obsessed with trump, and you need a break.",
"Antifa is largely a right wing fever dream but OK",
"CNN does not have a clear political agenda. They're a sensationalist news outlet. That's all.\n\nAnd my above post clearly distinguishes press based on the stated criteria, none of which are \"political spectrum\".\n\nIf truth has a liberal bias then lies have a conservative one. If you don't want your political side to be rooted in lies, then start telling the truth.",
"It seems you don't live on planet earth ",
"Go on KnowYourMeme and look up Loss",
"you know who liked animals? hitler.\nyou know who didn’t like smoking? hitler. \nyou know who breathed air? hitler",
"Not the OP but I understand where they are coming from, I just see them as factually incorrect. Securing the borders or hating on immigrants or Islam is a non issue. It's a common tactic to spur up fear of the other so they don't have to solve real domestic issues.",
"Atheism/theism refer to belief in god. (What one believes)\n\nGnosticism/agnosticism refer to knowledge ( what one knows.\n\nTherefore it is possible to be an agnostic atheist (doesn’t hold a belief in god but doesn’t claim to know) or a gnostic atheist (doesn’t hold a belief in god and claims to know one doesn’t exist)\n\nSo, it’s not that these atheists can’t agree on what atheism is. They are different kinds of atheists. Since it is impossible to prove a negative I would say the the position of gnostic atheism is not a defensible one.\n\nJust FYI",
"They are morons. That is the problem. ",
"Stupid libtards think that the German press was anti Hitler. Hey, morons, their media was a mouthpiece for the corrupt regime. Just like today's American press.",
"DAE blumpf is literally Hitler?!?!",
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"Really? Well that's even more depressing. ",
"> \"muh liberal media\"\n\nYou mean \"Lugenpresse\"",
"> Xenophobic how? \n\nBy saying that a judge can't rule on a case he's on because he has mexican heritage.\n\nBy spreading , through retweets, ridiculously racist \"facts\" from literal white nationalists.\n\nBy calling mexican illegals rapists and murderers (And no saying \"some i assume are good\" doesn't make it any better)\n\nAnd yes , targeting people because of their religion is xenophobic. \n\nThere's a shit ton more \n\n>\nStop living in Fantasy Land. President Donald J Trump is not Hitler a\n\nHow about you learn to read instead. Not my fault you can't have a discussion about politics because you get triggered at any potential criticism of your cult leader.\n\nThis is what i actually said:\n\n> \nAlso pointing out that someone is using hitler's tactics does not necessarily equate to calling that someone \"literally hitler\"\n\n.\n\n> \nDiscrediting the press? \n\nYes, this isn't arguable, i'm not going to waste time with this, I just won't. If you don't see it, I'm not the who is going to be able to , nor do i care to at this point, clean off that nonsense in your head. He literally called them one of the greatest enemies of the american public.\n\n>\nIs President Trump blaming Jewish people for the American economy? If President Trump is literally Hitler\n\nAgain didn't say this, but cool. And he's blaming \"other\" people and the \"elites\". He literally goes on twitter and calls people he doesn't agree with his \"enemies\". That's the comparison. They don't have to do strictly and exactly the same thing for there to be analogous similarities. get it?\n\n>\nPresident Trump bashes the elite because he was an insider.\n\nMy god, this is cracking me up at this point. No he bashes \"the elites\" because it rallies morons up. His cabinet is full of \"elites\" and inadequate people for their roles. He conned you, that's what it is. Go see who overwhelmingly benefits the most from the republican tax reform. This really cracked me up\n\n>\nI hope you realize that the Nazis were Socialists. That's history. Socialism has failed time and time again. National Socialist German Worker's Party - so there goes your Trump = Hitler narrative. President Trump hates socialism, but Hitler's party was NAMED the Socialist party of Germany.\n\nOh look , more brainwash. No the nazis weren't socialist, just like the north korean government isn't actually democratic. This isn't something where you get to have another \"opinion\" on, there's no discussion among experts and scholars that the nazis were extreme right wingers. They literally formed a government with other right wing parties, not with the left. Hitler literally killed off every single socialist in his party in the early 30s.\n\nAlso the way you carefully put the word president before his name is just freakish. Everyone knows he's the president, you don't have to be redundant.",
"No it's not.\"stopping down to that moron level\" shit is probably accurate. \n\n\nWe just have alot of good for nothing hysterical losers who have all this extra time that could be spent pursuing life goals or dreams (or making money). \n\nLike I've worked my ass off for the last 7 years, just got my law degree, and what are my old grade school friends doing? Comparing Trump to Hitler. Or like everything is a rape or everything is an assault. They live in this extreme world where everything is a major issue that is 'literally' threatening their life. But some have been so pampered and privileged their entire life and now don't want to work hard to try and maintain that status. They want it for free instead of putting the blood, sweat, and tears into what they do. \n\nWe have a large class of delusional Americans who have campuses that can teach them anything they want, access to every book and journal sever written, an opportunity many in history would have literally killed for. \n\nWasted on good for nothings who choose to be good for nothings. \n\nThis is just one man's opinion while taking poo. \n\n\n\n\n\n",
"There was a fair amount of bombing of civilians done by the Allies. I would use something like fire bombs over nukes though. The US government knew that Japan was not going to surrender even if they were losing the war, causing incredible amounts of loss of life and suffering on both sides. The Bomb was meant to decisively end the war, and it did, ultimately saving plenty of Japanese and American lives.",
"I don't care about the anarchists; I care about people who still think socialism is a good idea, because people actually sometimes believe them...",
"Ich versteh nich ganz was du von mir willst.",
"This is why I was it was so ludicrous when trump called out to fake news in front of the German chancellor. \n\nHe doesn’t even know the implication and dares to use it in front of the one country “Fake news” was truly used against. \n\nWhat an idiot.",
"I couldn't possibly piece together that a photo designed to compare President Trump to Hitler over words said could possibly mean that the words they used are similar. Can you help me wipe my own ass? I can't remember how? No? Now you do",
"He was using the Yoda version.",
"Sure. But it doesn't cut both ways quite like you think. \n\n/R/politics is for politics not extreme American left viewpoints. It's not quite comparable imho",
"All media is biased and terrible. Fox is no exception.",
"You mean like ICE internment camps that we have built? Omfg!",
"You're complaining that another person shows partisanship. You also show partisanship in your comment history. You are a hypocrite. It's incredibly simple. ",
"While everything you're saying is true, it's also not a coincidence that the small number of neo-nazis that we do have are trump supporters.",
"Oh look you're bringing out your frog toys and may mays to play with, how adorable. \n\nHIGH ENERGY SPICY PEE PEE",
"At least six people in the Trump campaign have been identified in reports as being wiretapped. What isn't confirmed is that Obama knew about it, but there's circumstantial evidence that was the case\n\nhttps://nypost.com/2017/04/11/trump-were-not-going-into-syria/",
"Is that why Trump wants to \"open up libel laws\" to make it easier to silence the press?",
"Thats because he does negative things.",
"I’m glad to hear someone else say this. I subscribe to that sub strictly to present other thoughts and the downvotes are swift and numerous. Is that still a default sub? I know it was then wasn’t but I thought it was then set back to a default. Regardless it’s one of the highest subscribed subs and people are really getting zealous there. And of course they blindly accuse those they hate of being blind zealots.",
"Liberals using left-wing media watch dogs notorious for their bias to prove that their left-wing media outlets are trustworthy. This is clown world. You people are submerged in an ocean of manipulative media. Learn some critical thinking, that doesn't involve cross-checking one left-wing media outlet with another one.",
"No white liberal ever talks about moving to Africa, but plenty of Africans move here (and I hope you're enjoying yourself here).",
"So you're implying that Trump using fake news to try to hide the fact he hooked up with a pornstar is the same as Hitler completely taking control of the press in order to commit genocide?\n\nYou're just moving the goalposts. Hillary Clinton talked about the \"alt-right fake news\" in her campaign to \"negate the power it might hold over her.\" I think it would be absolutely idiotic to say she's using the \"same rhetoric\" as Hitler...",
"The term \"word\" also covers all human language and concepts. You want to take your shitty argument to its logical conclusion?",
"Isn't it can't be arsed? After a quick Google it seems to be unclear as to whether can't be asked is actually a thing in its own right, or just a mishearing of can't be arsed.",
"Oh, look. You debunked something I didn't say. \n\nYou're wrong. The sky simply isn't green. ",
"\"just gone on with their lives\" is only possible if the direction/policies of this (or any other) administration don't impact you or people you care about. \n\nThat's not an option for millions of people. The dismantling of the Affordable Healthcare Act, the loss of CHIP, Dreamers, the travel ban, etc have real impacts on people. Like life-or-death impact. Like stay with your family or be rounded up and deported impact. Like decide between food or medicine this week impact. \n\nI don't have some unrealistic expectation that everyone should follow every nuance of politics but to laugh at the situation and act like those who are interested in their fellow man is worse than ignoring it. ",
"Exactly. And his previous comments states his family is DACA. So is your family DACA or are they here legally as refugees? Which one is it? ",
"What is going on? I don't understand",
"Pretty sure there are a few states where if you offered to round up and kill all Muslims right now they'd cheer.",
"You'd be surprised how many people don't realize that\n",
"Anarchists are inherently socialists.\n\nThere are more types of Socialism than the Soviet boogeymen.\n\nThey are not the same. Objectively. Like I said at the beginning arguing that they are is like arguing that Mussolini and Rand Paul belong in the same economic category. It's just ignorant.",
"How is that an argument against it's veracity?",
"/r/CringeAnarchy",
"TIL that any downvoted comment is being brigaded",
"Cue the excuses",
"As a legal immigrant. Yep. She does. ",
"Holy shit. You have nailed the thoughts I couldn’t put in to my own words. There is a sense of self righteousness and “proved you wrong” that they strive for and you’re right, it’s like they do nothing but search for that high. They’re pigs in shit. Not that there aren’t like minded individuals on both sides. ",
"The coward deleted his comment, since I developed an actual thought and took the time to type it out, I'm going to post it here...\n\n\n\"Do you think Hitler started his career with a genocide?\n\nHe started his political career by demonising a section of society and claiming that he could bring his country back to greatness.\"\n\nSo, you think we are headed down the same road? You honestly think that Republicans are capable of bringing this country to the same levels of depravity as the National Socialist Party? That's a bold bold statement. Republicans aren't the ones trying to disarm the citizens. I would invite you look at the past 8 years of foreign policy. We are already killing people by the thousands, in multiple countries, that we haven't declared war on. The scary thing this is something that BOTH parties agree, but something Trump ran against. \n\n\"Both Britain and America had communist parties during the fight against the Nazi's. Did that make them communist countries in your eyes?\"\n\nI only brought it up because those people wearing Communist shirts, or the Che' shirts are usually protesting Trump and Anti-Fascist. Just seems ironic to be protesting against fascist when you are wearing a symbol that has a lot more blood on its hands.",
"Sure, fortunately Trump does [both! ](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/01/10/trump-puts-federal-libel-law-2018-agenda-escalates-complaints-against-media-putting-federal-libel-la/1020913001/)",
"The stark difference being one had control of the press and the other's opponents have control of the press.",
"I mean, if your baseline for comparing a president to Hitler is any nationalistic views and disdain for the media, than we could compare literally any president to Hitler. The US is a fairly nationalist country in comparison to the rest of the developed world. Obama openly treated Fox News as political opposistion, and all the way back in the day Jefferson called the news enemies of the American people.\n\nThis really isn't anything unusual for American politics. The only truly unique thing about Trump is his use of Twitter as his metal toilet. Can't compare that to Hitler though.",
"No, no, no, no. Shall I compare you to Joseph Mengele? You've been breathing like he did, and eating, and walking, and I'm sure there are plenty of other similarities.\n\nHitler is arguably the worst person in modern history, responsible for the death of 20 to 40 million people. You don't use his image to compare a style of nationalism (which wasn't similar, anyway) or a solitary phrase, which wasn't uniquely his, and suppose that the observer will ignore any other aspect of the image.\n\nSeriously, get a critical mind.",
"You really think that any comment made about illegal immigrants is a blanket statement to all immigrants? You have a 1D mind. \n\nSo \"send illegal immigrants back home\" implies no legal immigrants can stay either? Because they're the same thing? ",
"More so bullshit social media stories, like how the Clintons were apparently running a child sex-trafficking operation in the basement of a pizza place. ",
"OMG! DRUMPH IS LIKE, LITERALLY HITLER!",
"Literally Hitler. /s",
"Under obama, after the drastic increase caused by the '08 recession, black unemployment rates fell from from ~16% to ~8%. General unemployment fell from 10% to 5%.\n\nhttps://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000\n\nUnder trump, it's simply continued the trend started by obama. Trump managed to not immediately fuck something up, but give him some time. I'm sure he'll deliver.",
":>=",
"There's people on the \"other side\" that don't really pay taxes but receive the benefits of such. The people I'm describing are not the people you're describing ",
"Yeah, because unlike the Germans, the Allies weren't shit at warfare, and they bombed the mainland for years, not just 7 or so months. That doesn't change the morality of the issue, and that doesn't make Allied bombings \"as bad\" as the Blitz. The moral claim contained is a literal Goebbels talking point. ",
"They're just fundamentally bad human beings, it's not surprising but you just can't let it get to you. :/",
"> URL´s\n\nThat's not an apostrophe. It's either URL's or even simply URLs. ",
"It is actually a separate letter. It's an Umlaut, not part of the essential alphabet with 26 letters, rather an extension.\n\nAlso it's pronounced very differently. Even without context. ",
"Well, since Fascism is a socialist ideology, we don't have to worry about that under Trump. And before you try to say, \"Fascism is right wing,\" have you ever heard of Giovanni Gentile? If not, don't lecture anybody about what fascism is. That would be like trying to correct somebody's assertions about communism without knowing who Karl Marx is.",
"I can’t believe I am finally getting this kind of reaction in a main subreddit like this. My comment two years ago would have gotten more vitriol and hatred than you could ask for. ",
"Here are just some of the ways in which we are actually moving closer to fascism here in the real world since the beginning of the Trump admin: we just came really close to electing a guy who says homosexuality should be illegal and we should get rid of amendments after the 10th. Also taking rights away from gay people is in the official GOP platform, page 11. Also republicans this year just elected a guy to congress who literally assaulted a reporter for asking a policy question. Now that jack booted thug governs over you and me, thanks republicans. Also since Trump became president, American citizens have repeatedly been detained for no good reason and interrogated as to their religious beliefs. Also Trump was caught using Project Veritas to manufacture fake news to discredit Roy Moore accusers. Oh and not to mention the fact that white supremacist terrorists are now more prevalent in the US than Islamic terrorists. I didn't think that's what Trump meant when he said he wanted to win the war on Islamic terrorism.\n\nI can provide sources for each and every one of those things. So if I am quite literally crazy then you tell me some ways in which the US has become less fascist since the rise of Trump.",
"Thanks for the information.",
"* The travel ban, currently before the Supreme Court on grounds that it violated the first amendment freedom of religion.\n* Trump's continued operation of the Trump Organization, currently being litigated in several courts on grounds it violated the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution\n* Trump's frequent attacks on any news media that opposes him, and his frequent threats to expand libel laws. If Trump were to make good on this threat, it could potentially be a violation of the First Amendment freedom of the press and would almost certainly find itself in the courts too.\n\nBut all that is beside the point u/Seiglerfone was trying to make. It's not so much what Trump's done -- like (s)he and you said, it's nowhere near Hitler levels of bad far -- but *how* he's done it that's grounds for concern.",
"You have to be an idiot to cerebrate that Hitler and Trump are synonymous.",
"I assumed the question was „are you sceptical of the mainstream media“ not „do you trust the mainstream media“. Yes for the first is the same as no for the second one.\n\nGiven that these people roam Welt online suggests that they see it as a trustworthy source. This and them voting no on that poll suggests that they don‘t see Welt as part of the mainstream media.",
"Responding with \"hurrdurr\" and \"reeee\" on the other hand: Earth-shatteringly original.\n\nAlso, unironically employing the term \"libtard\" in the username? *Spicy.*",
"A Hitler/Trump comparison?\n\nThis is the first time I think that has ever been done.",
"It's not creepy. It's a fact. There are hundreds of thousands if not millions of Americans who have been programmed to not believe anything coming from a mainstream outlet and only to believe insane conspiracy theory driven shit/outlets that don't contradict it. It's how propaganda works. \n\nYou can put your goalposts where ever you want. I'm not gonna lower myself into a CNN vs Fox debate and try to go tit for tat on bullshit and lies. I'm talking about actual fake news here which is decidedly not partisan. It could happen to either side. \n\nAnd no I didn't make this into a partisan thing. My whole point in this whole issue is we need to be able to think independently as Americans, not be swayed by a foreign enemy. The only time it becomes an attack on republicans is when republicans go in defending things and drinking liberal tears because they don't want to admit Russia helped them win and election because a large part of their base are low information voters that could be swayed easily by this propaganda. Sorry if you don't wanna hear that. But no ones telling y'all to defend what happened. If you just up and said \"we'll shit this is not good\" and we all worked together that would be great but people would rather not do that I guess. I don't feel like it's a partisan issue. It's an American issue. The partisan part is that only one side wants to see it like that. The other wants to use it as a chance to railroad through their policies. ",
"Western European politics /=/ US politics.\n\nWe don't always have to hold Europe's hand. ",
"RemindMe! 10 years\n\nLet's come back and revisit this assuming you're still alive.\n\nYou sound miserable dude.",
"In his first year Hitler had started concentration camps and had begun ripping rights away from Jewish citizens. \n\nIt's not a valid comparison at all ",
"> denying Jews citizenship\n\nWell Trump's really pushed the line on that one\n\n>Hitler was socialist\n\n[misconception](https://www.thoughtco.com/was-adolf-hitler-a-socialist-1221367)\n\nThose details gloss past the important details anyway, and that's the style Trump runs campaigns/public image and how much he tries to abuse power. So far, there's nothing to warrant he's in danger of being in Hitler's ballpark, but at the same time he also shows lots of tendencies toward that control schema. The other stuff is just icing on the cake.",
"Cry more ",
"Unsubbed. Filter is what you would use if didn't want to see this but you wanted to stay subbed to this.\n\nAlso, what's with this bold shit? Why not use caps lock too.",
"You are using logic and research instead of feelings. What a great concept",
"are you arguing with yourself?",
"Just because we haven't quite stooped to North Korea levels of propaganda yet, that doesn't make the media any less deceitful.\n\nRemember that time Trump got *two scoops* of ice cream? Literally Hitler!\n\nOr what about that time he had steak for dinner? It was *well done*, even!",
"I remember Trump supporters literally shouting this word at the press. So yea ",
"Libel/slander specifically requires that you prove the press(or whomever) was lying in a court of law with evidence, that it was malicious, and that it did actual harm to you.\n\nWe've had libel laws for a long time and for good reason.\n\nFact-check stuff before you publish it, and you will be fine (even if it's wrong, the malicious/negligent check would get you off).",
"Hell",
"Hitler wore pants and Trump wears pants! ",
"And its folly to assume that just because some individuals who come here don't follow that principle that it hasn't been re-evaluated over time and consistently decided upon by the government.",
"It's still unmistakeable that the nazis weren't left-wing. And you said:\n\n>If you want to be scared about repeating the terrible history of groups like the Nazis then you need to be looking at Trump's opposition, not Trump himself.\n\n>Trump definitely has the potential to be dangerous, and could make some seriously harmful mistakes, but in terms of political ideology he's on the opposite side of the spectrum to Hitler.\n\n\n\nWhich is fucking bullshit.",
"Is he as bad as hitler? No\n\nBut his actions and character have political scholars seriously examining our democratic institutions and wondering if they can survive the era of Trump.",
"My point exactly.",
"Your whole comment contains no argument. Nazism is a far right ideology. This is historical fact.",
"Any large group of people is going to have some shitheads, including democrats. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make other than you like to generalize half the U.S. population",
"The news does have biases and agendas, but Trump fucked it up by making it blatantly partisan. I was initially a little happy when it came up, because I thought bias in the media might finally get some national attention. \"A potential non-politician calling out the media when they're misleading? Please do! Call out that loaded vocabulary!\" Instead his idea of fake news is \"not fox\" and \"you missed a consonant.\" Absolute garbage, and it ruined any chance of real talk about it. ",
"You're spending *way* to much energy trying to defend and justify a blatantly racist comment made by our president.",
"When it comes to the people he's put in place destroying the openness of the very platform that Reddit runs on (the Internet), why is anyone surprised when people are genuinely pissed? You're on the fucking Internet. \n\nI'm sorry, but this r/politics argument comes up a lot. The reason it's biased is large in a way because of the type of people that make up Reddit. But here's the kicker, people are actually tired of government officials doing this type of shit, so they're saying something. Do a few questionable articles make it to the front page of r/politics? Sure. Why the hell does that discredit the entirety of the sub? All of Reddit should suck according to your argument. If you truly think that only shit smothered in liberal bias and nonsense is happening in r/politics, it's pretty damn obvious you're not on the sub at all. ",
"Oh precisely. You see I was actually trying to encourage some thinking, not simply win an internet argument. But it's good to know you're coming from that mindset, rather than one of truth seeking.",
"> Hillary came up with it the DAY after she lost\n\nPeople were talking about the Russian collusion with Flynn and Manafort long before the election. Stop spreading fake news davai davai.",
"Yeah that's why I mentioned the Tokyo fire bombings. ",
"Hitler used to breathe oxygen and trump also breathes oxygen. Coincidence? I don't think so. He's literally Hitler.",
"To type ≠ in Windows, hold down ALT and type 8800 **on the numeric keypad**. For some reason it is not working in the Chrome browser, but it works in Notepad and Word.",
"Really? What facts are you disputing there? ",
"hitler used aggressive rethoric.\n\nnothing illigal. just an observation.",
"Any examples?",
">I've been a man for 32 years\n\nGood god I think it's hilarious when people post their resume to qualify statements on reddit, but this is next-level. Should I ask my 65 year old father what he's heard since he's \"more qualified\"?\n\nAnd I don't buy for a goddamn second that you don't hear this kind of thing often. Guys on the shop floor will say it, guys in the corner office will say it, guys just talk that way. I'm not saying it's the prevailing conversation every time, but when it comes up it's not exactly a discussion laced with erudition.\n\nAnd most women have spoken to each other in a similar way.\n\nI mean, it's not a great idea to go out in public and say dirty shit like that so Trump's an idiot for it, but to act like all of us are so polished and pristine is stupid.\n\nNow if he actually goes out and gropes/touches women against their will then that's different. That ain't par for the course.",
"Correct. The president may know about it too! That doesn't make it wiretapping of a political opponent. You do realize those are totally different accusations, right?",
"Wait... did you just say that sub is more right leaning now???",
"Admitting to doing something is evidence! Multiple testimonies from victims is evidence! Both of those are acceptable in court! \n\nThat was not my argument at all! You are absurd! Jesus Christ. You have issues dude. He talked about doing a thing and multiple allegations corroborate that thing he has talked about doing! There is significantly more evidence that he DID something than he didn’t! Jesus fuck.\n\nIt’s crazy disturbing because you clearly don’t care about the truth, you care about explaining away his OWN words and the words of others who have spoken out against him. Talk about a lack of maturity, much less empathy. \n\nWhen someone brags about sexual assault, THAT IS NEVER OKAY. It is not common “locker room talk” it is not innocent, it is not normal, it is not excusable! Grow up. \n\nWhether or not he actually assaulted the people HE HAS CLAIMED to, he still made those claims and you should be appalled by that, not defending it. I hope you never say things like this, about sexually assaulting women. That is what is truly disgusting here. Your callous attitude towards the treatment of women. Those are real people you asshole. Maybe defend treating them like people before you defend talk about assaulting them. ",
"The accent IS the separate letter added together to the u. Originally it would have been spelt ue but eventually had the e moved on top of the u for ease and that in turn fizzled out into two dots. Same with ä originally being ae and å having started out as aa. ",
"so basically, in both cases, it is true?",
"Something good happens - Obama's fault.\n\nSomething bad happens - Trump's fault.\n\nKeep spinning reality...",
"Holy fuck guys this is it. Drumpf is finally going to be impeached!",
"The left are the ones who coined the term fake news, Trump just capitalized on it.",
"LOL what a fucking joke!\n\nTrump: we should kill noncombatant relatives of terrorists\n\nTrumplings: he didn't mean it!\n\nTrump: *kills noncombatant relatives of terrorists*\n\nTrumplings: He still didn't mean it!\n\nThere is no hope for you.",
"This has definitely been commented already but the news IS faked a ton or over emphasized to diminish Trump. Like i understand bashing on him if he delcares a war or cancels an important trade agreement for no reason but the new went ape shit when Trump looked at the sun for 2 seconds during the eclipse and called him an idiot for that, when in reality 80% of people staring at the Sun for minutes that day were wearing dollar store brand sunglasses that did nothing to protect their retinas from the solar rays",
"Nope that's not what what I was saying. And you're using the word \"inferring\" wrong.\n\nI don't care where you prefer living. (How vain..) My point was that being deported from anywhere, to anywhere, sucks no matter what, because your life is being forcefully uprooted by people how don't give a fuck about you. You gotta learn some empathy or something, man. As well learn some manners, and maybe some grammar skills too. You'll be a lot happier in the long run. :)",
"Interesting that he referred to the West as something Germany did not belong to, to which it now does. The West, if taken in this context, becomes a mindset rather than geography.",
"I'm pretty sure Hillary Clinton said it before Trump.\n https://washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/03/how-hillary-clinton-might-have-inspired-trumps-fake-news-attacks/",
"Looks like a picture to me 🤔",
"Hitler in 1921 didn't seem all too bad either. Just wanted to make Germany great again, proposed ways to bring German jobs back, most the economy and stock market, bring up the standard of living for Germans. \n\nIs trump Hitler now? No. But Hitler didn't go full blown tyrant instantaneously. It was small increments much like we're seeing with trump. Crimes and behavior being normalized and accepted moreso then under Obama. \n\n\nThe expansion of powers and surveillance under Obama sure seems like a bad idea in retrospect. They pretty much set this country up for a dictator to have so much control. ",
"> They are not the same. Objectively. Like I said at the beginning arguing that they are is like arguing that Mussolini and Rand Paul belong in the same economic category. It's just ignorant.\n\nFrom an economic standpoint, all variants of socialism end the same way.\n\nI agree with you on how they present the social policies differently though.",
"I feel like forced labor and torture is a little different than death via vaporization. Plus the nukes on Japan ended up saving lives compared to having to launch a land offensive.",
"Almost like you need 60 votes and have 51 republican senators or something. ",
"You mean the ones that predate Trump's presidency by decades?",
"May have more to do with people like Vince Foster.",
"The difference is that mass murder is indiscriminate. If you think that doesn't matter because \"it's still killing people\" then I'm not going to convince you otherwise.",
"It's clear you're about as biased as they come as well. It's not so much that media is lying, it's just that they're biased and unfairly balanced for/against one group or another. This doesn't mean the actual things they say can't be fact checked and proven right/wrong. They don't get proven wrong as often as you imagine it to be. They factually proved that Trump lied over 2000 times in his first year in office. You'll also find that Fox 'News' sticks out head and shoulders above the rest when it comes to spreading misinformation. It gets even worse when you've got the rest of the western world, that actually knows objective media, even then they have no benefit to one side winning over the other, confirming the stories by their journalists working in the US. \n \nNobody is out to get Trump just for him being Trump. People like you need to get this out of their head. They're going after him because he factually lies and is factually a massive hypocrite. ",
"I love this. Besides your great response this guys/gals post pretty much is saying we should keep them here since we can live off their hard work for free!!! Not only is he/she wrong, but their reasoning for keeping them here is sinister. ",
"> Didn’t Obama use the IRS to harass Republicans and potentially law enforcement?\n\nNo. The credible investigations in to the IRS found that while questionable (from an appearance point of view) processes were used, there were actually more liberal groups challenged than conservative. No evidence of anything except a crackdown on groups trying to skirt campaign finance law.\n\n> Almost everything in your response is pure speculation.\n\nThis is hilarious. You literally asked me to speculate on the future.\n\n> So say he does become the dictator of the US, what’s his next step that makes him Hitler? Invade our neighboring countries? Murder all of the liberals?\n\nYou can do some reading on how autocratic governments develop over time to get an idea. Read some Masha Gessen, or Sarah Kendzior, who has been fairly prescient although rather outspoken. And never forget folks like Arendt et. al.\n\nAs to the murderousness - have you been paying attention to his focus on using nuclear weapons? What would you think of a US that provokes a war with North Korea that ends up with multiple millions dead? Would that change your apologies for him?",
"Because this subreddit is slowly turning into a political cesspool.",
"https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2016/11/16/2016.11.16%20-%20Fake%20News%201_0.JPG\n\nIt was a professor that put out a list of fake news sites, stuff like the onion, daily currant, etc. that are satirical. Sites that look like they have real news but don't, or just repost headlines. And then some right-wing sites/facebook groups were put on there as well. Now, some of those sites can be sensational but I don't know if all of them should be brushed off completely as 'fake news'. \n\nTrump didn't start with 'fake news' until about a month or so later.",
"huffing ton post is pretty widely known as being yellow journalism like the daily mail, its not even in the same galaxy when it comes to quality like the bbc. even the most liberal of liberals are aware of it being a clickbait rag. bad example on your part, its like me saying breitbart is good lol. we really need to introduce critical study into our schools and teach recognising information quality, there's so much misunderstanding of media sourcing out there its actually ridiculous. ",
"But...you're literally hitter. ",
"It was about immigration policy which our mainstream was/is extremely heavily pushing, it was a taboo to report anything bad at the start of the crisis, and 92% voted to be very dissatisfied about integration out of a highly representative 90.000 sample size now. I think a Swiss research center also rated integrity in the country pretty low IIRC. Polls about media trust have been done from various sides but its been long since ive seen those. \nHere one example I mentioned: https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article168126248/Mehrheit-der-Deutschen-lehnt-Familiennachzug-von-Fluechtlingen-ab.html - to be fair its getting better now but only because they can't keep the paper castle up for sure. US election reporting was like 95% pro Hillary too. Ive read comparisons where they didnt list and negatives while we were in a continental crisis stemming from Syria, which she was involved in. Its ok to take a stance but not what we have had was just propaganda. \n\nhttp://www.tagesspiegel.de/images/tagesspiegel/19347516/1-format43.jpg Just look at the sheer bias. And at the bottom, the leader of the party responsible for most of the social injustice in the country is quoted \"There is a lot of injustice going on\" Its almost like a parody of propaganda.",
"Please I beg of you to explain how 3 radically different ideologies, *one of which isn't even socialist* (hint it's social democracy) are *identical* economically. ",
"Or male feminists just have empathy and understand that women are still clearly treated differently and that we don't have to accept that. If you think male feminists are in it to get laid, you're truly deluded. ",
"Anyone can draw their own conclusion. Look at the data itself and draw your own conclusion. Think for yourself, don't let others do that for you.",
"That's mainly on him.",
"> CNN helped Hillary cheat in a Presidential debate. \n \nNo, one person handed one question over. That person was then immediately fired. \n \nThis has nothing at all to do with \"CNN\" and there is no larger conspiracy despite your own obvious bias to overstate the situation. Real news sources hold their journalists accountable for what is reported. Fake news sources let their talking heads tell lies all day and cover up their sexual abuse scandals.",
"American here. Not a trump supporter. Not a Hilary supporter. Yes it is petty. Yes it is overblown. Has trump done some bad things? Sure. Has trump done some good things? Sure. Has he exterminated 6 million Jews? No. I hate idiotic posts like this. It makes Americans look stupid but hey! From my experience a lot of us are! I won’t exclude myself either lol",
"Like what? Letting Trump win?\n\nIt might have been an upset but it was hardly something that's unheard of in the US.",
"There you go, that was the word I needed.",
"He did started with \"let's kill the Jews\", tho. He wrote the blatantly antisemitic Mein Kampf in prison, about a decade before his rise to power.",
"You are insane. Get help.",
"Every big march is met with a period of signs being posted to /r/pics and /r/funny. People want to feel validated in their causes. Such heroes. ",
"You really love eating up the liberal propaganda don't you? \n\nThe reason Trump was nominated was because Mitt Romney was a nice guy who was absolutely sabotaged by the press, so republicans nominated someone who did not give a shit. I know it's hard for some liberals to have a memory but this is the reality.",
"\"You can keep your doctor!\"\n\n\"It will be cheaper!\"\n\nIndeed, we were",
"The Jonestown suicide of the \"Heavens Gate\" cult.\n\nIt's where the phrase \"drink the kool aid\" comes from.",
"Imagine being this far down the rabbit hole and assuming someone is white but pretending to be black because everything has to do with race. While simultaneously not being able to discredit what they're saying in a merit based debate so instead you attack their character when they never claimed to actually be black. \n\nNot everyone in Africa is Black. You should probably take a little break from reddit. ",
"Can also be applied to the press themselves, who’ve been caught lying numerous times throughout history. Moral of the story: if you don’t like being fooled, do your own research.",
"Ok. My statement is still true. Comparisons can be made. You can't tell me they are not there. ",
"they're not even close to half the population, and being a shithead is pretty much a prerequisite to join. ",
"The dossier was and is a real report by an intelligence gathering service. It was published with the disclaimer than the claims have not been independently verified. So far some of it has been independently verified, others haven't. That's not the same as calling anything critical of you fake news nor is it the same as intentionally making up facts.",
"> It's an Umlaut, not part of the essential alphabet with 26 letters, rather an extension.\n\nRight, I always took it as a modified u rather than a completely separate character though.",
"Comparisons can be made. You admit that yourself. Where you are wrong is that this is normal. No modern president has ever attacked the media like this. ",
"r/all ",
"First, I am really glad you have not experienced anything. I live in NYC full-time, but a lot of my family lives in the Deep South (specifically North Carolina). It is really bad. \n\nDo you live in Texas/Southwest or in a blue bubble?",
"You gonna answer my other question? Did you also go this crazy when Obama killed a load of kids too?\n\nI'm guessing your answer is no. Aka, go outside. Have a break from the internet.",
"I thought it was coined during the election to describe the propaganda spewed by CNN and Buzz Feed.",
"\"hitler was socialist\" aye and the DPRK is democratic. the nazis gave many business from \"undesirables\" to private enterprises, and venerated private property. how is thay at all socialism. next you'll tell me obama was a socialist as well.",
"\"vast right wing conspiracy\"",
"It becomes hard to ignore when it happens every fucking day and I try to avoid it because it’s so much toxicity that I don’t need right now. ",
"This sub is literally a propaganda sub ",
"Would you rather be tortured and then die or simply die with 15 seconds of confusion leading up to it?",
"Amen! Well said ",
"And Hillary Clinton said it before Trump...\n\nhttps://washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/03/how-hillary-clinton-might-have-inspired-trumps-fake-news-attacks/",
"...aaaaaand that'll be an \"usubscribe\" for me, please.",
"No, \"Lugenpresse\" means \"glancing press\".\n\nI suspect the sign maker meant to write \"Lügenpresse\", which indeed means \"lying press\".\n\nThe Umlaut is not optional.",
"No he wasn't. He claimed to be, but none of his governing policies were based in socialism. They were based on an effort to control through fascist tactics under the illusion of national socialism. ",
"No it’s not that bad. History has just taught us to avoid populist nationalistic egomaniac leaders at all cost.",
"What does \"becoming American\" mean to you",
">Democracy in germany is dead.\n\nAaand you discredited yourself.",
"Not at all. The mainstream media is selling a narrative that is so convincing and inundated as the \"news\" that half of America is convinced that we're under a hitler-esque regime. I used to hate trump irrationally and then I saw a few examples where CNN had blatantly cut out half of the shot of original video that I had seen from OP. It was terrifying when I started to look more at the republican leaning news sources and compared them to the democratic news and it was shocking and disgusting. Most of these posts of Reddit are from accounts that seem to be paid for and are unexplainably always voted to the front page in numbers inconsistent with everything else on the front page. It's really scary living here because I actually now believe that trump is just a guy who wants to do what's best for Americans and everyone else only has the opinion of what they hear 24/7 on the news. ",
"Because it is a picture.",
"You mean the 1933 Hitler that started concentration camps only months after taking office and had begun the process of systemically removing Jewish citizen's rights? That Hitler?\n\nDo you always parrot Reddit talking points without doing even the minimal amount of cursory research?",
"> Communism death tolls trump ;) facist death tolls by the millions.\n\nTotally irrelevant comparison. Don't make them if you want to be taken seriously.",
"\"If you don't believe news organizations are 100% truthful then you hate the freedom of press\" are you an idiot? ",
"Just the irony of some of these comments saying the left is delusional or driven by emotion instead of facts while watching the current republican admin is too much.",
"Keep posting pics comparing Trump to Hitler. A lot of people are getting triggered without their left-free safe spaces.",
"\"5% of Brits have a hobby they're embarrassed about. I could tell you my hobby, but I'd have to kill you, which coincidentally is my hobby.\" -Jimmy Carr, British comedian.\n\nFor some reason, he's not in jail for murder, and everyone just keeps acting like he didn't totally admit to murder!",
">saying we should keep them here since we can live off their hard work for free!!! Not only is he/she wrong, but their reasoning for keeping them here is sinister. \n\nI think we should give them healthcare and naturalize them. What I am saying is that deportation hurts all of us.",
"Raised liberal, took Econ, that made me a right winger. But as political correctness was used make criticism of degeneracy \"bigoted\" I'm now far far far right. \n\nWhen they use their buzzwords against me, I know I'm doing well. \n\nThe smart leftists pervert language to confuse and obfuscate the arguments and push for societal collapse. However that's only people like Soros, Obama, and Clinton. 99% of the liberals you meet are just useful idiots brainwashed by Orwellian newspeak. \n\n[watch and learn](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xFqShpJm_zc) ",
"Most of Mein Kampf is about economic policy, so it would be very easy to ignore the parts about the Jews if you believe in the rest of it.",
"Scroll past, problem solved ",
"It sounds condescending but really, Reddit is just too young with not enough life experience to realize this. Most social media is this way. ",
"Yeah, I don't know how anyone could have avoided those. *There were literally dozens of them.*\n\nI think you're missing the point. You can see why it was ridiculous hyperbole to compare President Obama to Hitler but your bias is keeping you from seeing why it's equally silly to compare Trump to Hitler.",
"You’re not even trying to listen or pay attention. ",
"It wasn't an assumption. You said it was a founding principle as if that meant it was infallible and not in need of evaluation.\n\nIf it's been re-evaluated then that's better than just following it because the founding fathers said so. However, I still think the principle is weird and creepy in the modern age.",
"Jeez, this is so completely wrong is nearly every way it is actually somewhat impressive you even thought of this. ",
"I am a 20 something year old! Well, 29 but I'm still one of those \"fucking millennials\"",
"That's because their views and his views align up the closest. Nobody is denying that. But it also means that not all of his supporters are neo Nazis.\n\nBut isn't it also a coincidence that most of the human traffickers and rapists are also Clinton/democrat supporters? And just like with trump, it doesn't mean that Clinton/Dems are rapists and human traffickers.",
"As a fellow Canadian I couldn't disagree with you more. Would you prefer people wait till he starts exterminating a race? Trump has mimicked several of Hitler's tactics already. Personally I'd much rather raise caution before it's too late.",
"Rephrase it to 'its like comparing a stream to a river' and it changes the perspective, no?",
"Very nice. Comparing him to someone who gassed millions of jews. C'mon Reddit.\n\n\"Oh look, Hitler ate food; Trump eats food - Trump is Hitler\".",
"People said the exact same thing about Hitler until it was too late.",
"They are delusional too, but they don't have the same righteous smugness attached to their delusion.",
"Man, Hitler just keeps getting elected every year, doesn't he?",
"\"Trump and Hitler both poop similar shades of brown...is Trump going to mass murder the Jews?!\"",
"Unemployment rates were already dropping, and have continued more or less as you'd expect..\n\nJobs coming back? You mean by regulating against trade? Artificially inflating costs? That's sure going to go well.\n\nThe economy was already doing well, the DOW is not a great measuring stick for the economy in the first place, and you're acting like it means something good when people start getting optimistic in the performance of big companies when a self-serving \"multi-billionaire\" who stands for policies that benefit the rich gets elected, or when the party with a history of lining the pockets of the rich gets control of all branches of government.\n\nThe taxes don't benefit the average person, and they've set it up so they can turn around and blame the democrats when the shit they've sent hurling into the fan finally hits. It's as blatant as it is manipulative and disgusting.\n\nA lot has changed, and your only defense is nonsense, thinly veiled racism (let's be honest, you don't care to know or understand immigration issues, or how we can practically resolve them), and non-sequitur.",
"The media is bullshit. And both sides have used the term multiple times... What's your point? ",
"Oh, so *now* comparing things to Nazi Germany is stupid.",
"Really? Where was the accountability for CNN claiming only they could read the leaked emails?\n\nWhere was the accountability for them saying \"We could not have done more to help Hillary\"?\n\nYou ad hom about bias, but are so blind you can't see CNN sold out years ago.\n\n\"Fake news sources let their talking heads tell lies all day and cover up their sexual abuse scandals.\"\n\nReally REALLY THO?\n\nYou're going that way in a conversation about bias towards the Clintons?",
"Yea the cults of feminism, veganism, socialism, and leftism are fairly bad.",
"> We're not talking about the behavior of the press, we're talking about the behavior of the President.\n\nWe're not talking about how I'm wrong, we're talking about how I'm right. \n\nYou know, I actually do agree with you, but somehow I don't think the issues are separate.",
"This is such BS. Every single one of these sources are biase. And I see very few leans republican sources in that middle column. \n\nAmazing how NYT is there with NPR, BBC, and the Washington Post. LMAO try again\n\nLike where is Forbes? how is that not on here?",
"I’m not apologizing for him, I’m saying he’s NOT HITLER. \n\nYou can have a terrible President that isn’t a genocidal maniac, you know that, right?",
"They *want* you to leave. So they can circle jerk over their own anger alone.",
"I love that leftists are so intertwined with the fake news media now, so much so that eliminating one will eliminate the other.",
"They're doubling down for 2020. It's gonna be a hell of an election. ",
"\"Fake news\" is being used way too much by everyone these days. Trump is definitely the worst offender though. But it scares me when people just call things \"fake\" and don't defend anything around it. One of my least favorite terms that's been recently popularized. ",
"Because the things he calls fake news arent fake. They are just stories he would like to disagree with.",
"No.",
"Because /r/pics loves posting anti conservative pics to push their agenda\n\nRemember that illegal everyone upvoted a couple months ago out of pity, and it turned out he was a murderer? Good times.",
"Just like you're a living neckbeard caricature. You only post to anime subs and call people fat as an insult.\n\nI bet you sympathize with the alt-right and TRP because women and \"normies\" rejected you.\n\nWhen push comes to shove, you're a fascist. Just like most liberals.",
"This is why Trump won",
"Wow look at all those buzzwords you were taught",
"That isn't even close to what I said. Try again with less made up bullshit.",
">No he has not. I read the link you provided. There is nothing in there about Trump doing so. All it says is that one of his advisers supposedly had papers related to registering syrian refugees.\n\nI'll just quote the article for you since you missed it:\n\n>Pressed on whether his administration would implement a Muslim registry, Trump proceeded to say he “absolutely” would. Politifact suggests he may have been referring at this point to the border wall, as Trump had deviated to discussing his plan for the southern border when the reporter followed up.\n\n>But he also said “it would just be good management” when the reporter asked again about creating a database of Muslims. \n\n.\n\n>I thought you just said he isn't the next Hitler... and the 1st thing you do is compare him to Hitler.\n\nSure, I'm sure you could find lots of similarities between plenty of right wingers and some of Hitler's ideas. It's not like the only thing he ever said was \"Kill the Jews\". Comparing something similar doesn't mean I'm saying he is literally Hitler.\n\n>No he did not. You realize that his \"muslim ban\" did not affect the vast majority of muslim countries, right? It's like saying a ban on Ireland thanks to IRA terrorism is a \"Catholic ban\" or a \"White ban\" when tons of other Catholic countries and White countries are unaffected.\n\nWell, here's a [link](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/dec/08/donald-trump-calls-for-complete-ban-on-muslims-entering-the-us-video) where Trump himself campaigns for a 'ban on muslim's entering the US' conveniently before being elected and trying to ban people from majority Muslim countries.\n\nBut idk, should I take YOUR word for it or God Emperor's?\n\n>If he has no respect for democratic institutions, why did he run for President and campaign? Why does he complain about his enemies on twitter, instead of merely arresting/killing them like Putin? That's not what people who have no respect for democratic institutions do.\n\nSo you have to start arresting/killing people to have no respect? Rhetoric isn't something to worry about? I mean fuck, let's not forget the Russian allegations. But let's not argue about that one, we'll see how it plays out.",
"It’s like a person who is screaming really loudly. After a while it’s hard to ignore.\n\nConsidering you are active in Overwatch communities, you are fairly resistant to salt.",
"Trump = Hitler? Really? You've got to be. Yeah delusional to believe that. ",
"You're a nazi^!!!",
"Ah, then I'm going to need some links to them promoting it, as again I don't frequent that sub, I actually have it blocked because it's such a massive circlejerk.",
"I hope I could filter flairs on mobile like with RES. At this point I should probably just unsubscribe.",
"So a man continues a trend on the exact same downslope that another man started yet it’s just impossible to give credit where it’s due for liberals.\n\nAmazing that you are so petty that you cannot even give credit because of how badly your hate is for someone. Go find a hobby, you are bad at this.",
"No, it isn't. Kindly familiarize yourself with the term \"would-be.\"",
"It's like if I have a rubber ball and an orange, I can tell you that *holds up rubber ball* is round like that orange.\n\nNow I am not saying that this rubber ball is a fruit you should eat, I'm just taking two things and saying \"Look, similarities\" ",
"“Sheeple”? Are you trolling? Damn, have I been had?",
"Well he was successful until he wasn’t. ",
"Please cite me the genocide Trump has ordered. Please present these \"facts\" you claim I'm ignoring. \n\nAlso, by definition a comparison cannot be labeled as a \"fact\". Comparisons are inherently subjective, and in your case, very prone to exaggeration. ",
"Yes, credible problems not hypothetical ones",
"People who are obsessed with hating homosexuals are often self loathing homosexuals. Would not be surprised to hear pence is gay. ",
"> Please I beg of you to explain how 3 radically different ideologies, one of which isn't even socialist (hint it's social democracy) are identical economically. \n\nThat's not what I said.\n\nI said they **END** the same way.",
"“Like without being rude let me be completely rude and crass”. Grow up. First, it’s not okay to say someone has autism because you don’t like what they said. Trying to act like you aren’t using it as an insult *when you clearly are* is a new level of assholish. \n\nIt boggles MY mind that you’d defend talk like this. Let’s go ahead and assume that he hasn’t sexually assaulted anyone, despite his own claims to having done so and the corroborating testimony of some 17 women now on top of the beauty pageant women who have stories of him walking in on them while dressing. Let’s pretend none of that exists for now. IT IS STILL NOT FUCKING NORMAL OR OKAY TO BRAG ABOUT SEXUALLY ASSAULTING WOMEN. EVER. Jesus, it’s a simple concept. First, that is NOT a normal thing to say even in a locker room. Guys brag about getting pussy, but not usually about grabbing it without consent! Second, if you are hearing people say that, that’s not okay! Bragging about sexual assault isn’t cool! It isn’t normal. It shouldn’t be excused like you are doing now. Completely boggles my mind that you would defend it. Completely. \n\nHe wasn’t being an actor. He wasn’t being given those lines. Completely false equivalence. He was speaking freely, bragging about randomly grabbing women. That’s not something you should be defending man. ",
"So questioning the validity of some news sources makes you Hitler?",
"It's a thumbnail ",
"therefore trump is hitler... (facepalm)",
"So what you are saying is the US was actually already closer to Nazi germany even before Trump. Cool",
"Wasn't that \"TheRussians\" how many excuses do these people make? ",
"Centrists end up siding with one party or the other. In reality, it is probably about 50% of the people in the middle and they make their choice.\n\nOr sometimes we'll vote for a 3rd party. Gary Johnson had about 4 million votes last election. If someone stands by their convictions and beliefs and falls in the middle, then to tell them they are wrong is just being an exclusive asshole. \"Oh you hold a moderate opinion, well you're what's wrong with voting and politics\" which I have been told before because I don't think communism is a good strategy and also don't think unchecked capitalism is great in the long term.\n\nBut feel free to shit on people in the middle who can look at both sides and choose what they like in a candidate or platform. ",
"Add the /s next time to avoid the downvotes and the misunderstanding. ",
"Media has a liberal bias because reality has a liberal bias. You will never know that because you are fed conservative propaganda.",
"Just like every other default sub hellhole, you make a \"TRUMP = HITLER\" joke/meme/anything BAM instant front page, 3 gilds, and no less than 18k upvotes. I've thought about doing it once or twice ironically.",
">but god damn could you give it a fucking rest once in a while.\n\nNo! Reddit needs to push it's agenda constantly until you accept it!\n\nOBEY",
"Imagine being do delusional you think CNN is centrist.",
"At Fox and Breitbart? Definitely both. /s\n\nIt's Arpaio's comparison, not mine.\n\nRegardless, the original post is comparing Trump to Hitler based on the despotic behavior they've both already exhibited. \n\nThat's troubling enough without Trump wanting to commit genocide, because successfully breaking the public trust in whatever journalist casts him in a negative light gives him free reign to exhibit a host of other negative behaviors that fall short of genocide. \n",
"What would you think if you saw someone promoting Communism and at the same time condemning fascism?",
"I find the fake news angle ridiculous. The press does constantly lie about trump just look at all those fake polls they released before the election.",
"Europe is completely doomed, they have no freedom. The two most free places on earth are on the American continent. ",
"Funny, you'll notice how right-wing nuts like to paint people fleeing for their lives and trying to make a living as \"illegal criminals\" as if they were going around cutting people's heads off, or peddling meth to kindergartners.\n\nUndocumented immigrants are a problem that both parties try to tackle. The difference is that one tries to tackle it militantly with thinly-veiled racism, and the other tries to find practical solutions to discourage these immigrants, and resolve the underlying problems that plague them, while retaining a basis of compassion and charity that has apparently fled so many. Appallingly, many of these simultaneously claim to be devout Christians, but that's another issue.",
"Õ",
"I think you are just immune to noticing the bias",
"You saw that there was a survey in the article right?\n\nNo, I'm sure *you* know what's best for black people.",
"He's killing the chance of anyone but him winning in 2020. Does that count? ",
"It’s a good spelling convention, but just so people know, ü is not pronounced like an American English ue. \n\nIt’s more of an “oo” sound. L-oo-genpresse. \n\nWithout the umlaut it would sound like L-uh-genpresse.",
"Grammar NAZI ",
"He has like TOTALLY read the manual([Goebbels guide] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels) to popularity if I am not mistaken)...why did you really think we only took the Werner von Braun type of research from Germany when they were defeated?... ",
"\"Anyone I don't like is Hitler\"\n\n-A child's guide to online political discourse",
"The downfall of old media and democratization of news is truly beautiful.",
"Der denkt wir glauben dass es Tastaturen ohne Umlaute gibt! Gefälschte Nachrichten!",
"What? Sauce???",
"How did Russia help \"them\" win? \n\nIt's a partisan issue because you're still wearing the Russia tinfoil hat. \n\nAt most, what Russia did was to leak the emails that showed the people what the DNC was really doing, your claims of non-partisanship are laughably hollow.\n\nI already walked you through examples, but you're so stuck on how many scoops of icecream Trump had, or piss-dossiers written by 4chan, you can't see it.",
"I got a lot of replies. Zillions. Truly great responses. So many that my good faith arguments turned to stoned semi trolling. Yup.",
"Hortler Hears a Jew, is my favorite Dr. Seuss book. ",
"People have no idea of what \"Yellow Journalism\" is. It's almost sad.... Actually it is pretty sad. ",
"Okay, I understand your feelings on that. However, I don't think that we can pretend that this is a liberal issue. It would be simply untrue to say that conservative outlets didn't do the same things, and for the same reasons.\n\nI don't have any problem with people or organizations being taken to task for not doing their due diligence. However I do take issue with it being used as a political lever by the most powerful man in the country to cast doubt on only that which displeases him. It is not an attempt to stop fake news, it is only to use the problem with exaggerated or biased news as a way of claiming de facto trustworthiness.\n\nAs I said in my original post the fact that one person lies does not mean that the other person does not. Generally any time someone tells you that they are the only person you can trust, you should run for the hills.",
"You’re right about the court piece I was possibly confusing that with another story. \n\nHowever Fox News in Canada does have a disclaimer that it’s for entertainment purposes only and it has also admitted to being opinion-based media in U.K. filings. ",
"When did I try to defend the logic behind anything he said? I think you're battling an invisible monster. I was trying to set straight the topic of his comment. ",
"Cool 👍 ",
"yeah you’re right. the amount of homosexuals, conservatives and middle-upper class citizens that were sent to labor camps makes it baffling to me how many people today still glorify this monster. ",
"We don't have to imagine it. *You* have to pay more attention, though. We just went through 8 years of people putting \"lynched Obama\" stuff on their yards and overpasses. Are you completely ignorant of that? \n \nChange the channel, you'll find a whole host of other \"news\"\n is actually happening... of which you are completely unaware. \n \nedit: Downvoting me isn't going to change the fact that you are willfully ignorant of what was actually happening in this country for the last 8 years.\n",
">but it's questionably not far\n\nI don't think you provided support for this claim in the rest of your comment",
"> So yeah, even if he didn't call them fake news, they still are.\n\nLike I said, it really doesn’t even matter. It’s not the government’s place to tell the people which news sources are trustworthy or untrustworthy/successful or “failing.” Preventing government officials from using their positions to influence which “truths” prosper in public discourse is the *point* of the first amendment. ",
"AH was more than just a murderous bastard hopped up on meth. He wasn't born and started to annihilate ant colonies or whatnot. He grew into the bastard he was due to the circumstances around him and his personality. Thinking he was this one dimensional monster, stops people from reflecting and preventing situations that created this \"monster\". \nyou just need to look in the comments here. how many people just see black and white. Hitler or not-Hitler. without seeing all the shades of grey in between. It boggles my mind that people do not see the dangers in the grey's as well, but only in the black. \nBut i repeat what I've said before. TD is not like AH, but they can be compared as they use similar tactics in some areas.\nTo quote u/iowegian4: \n\"Hitler was motivated by hate, and a desire to rid the world of what he considered was it's greatest problem (he was wrong, that's why he's Hitler lol). Trump is motivated by narcissism and greed, and is willing to say whatever is necessary to make himself look good to the people who's opinion matters to him.\"",
"A wise person would note a history of lying from both and trust neither. ",
"He also killed millions of Jews. ",
"Lol this guy wants to pretend the riots at Berkeley didn't happen \n\nGo back to /r/esist ",
"This is so incredibly insulting to the victims of the holocaust. The more people do this the more it minimizes the true horror of Hitler's bloody regime. It also polarizes people to the right in reaction to such ridiculous and childish comparisons.",
"Wow [current politican] really is like Hitler. That's amazing ",
"Well that's actually your logic I was mirroring, so I'm glad you admit it's shitty. ",
"It is overblown. Every time Trump does something, Liberals start crying and freaking out. They make these wild assumptions and comparisons, that really discredits their opinions when Trump actually does something dangerous.\nTrump can't breathe without someone crying about it.\n\nDo I support the guy? No, but calling him out on every stupid thing is getting old on my news feed. Every celebrity I follow on Twitter cries daily about him.\n\nIt's like the conservatives crying about Obama during his term about everything.\n\nThese whiney assholes don't even understand how our government of checks and balances works either. People think Trump is Hitler because they have no idea what power the President holds. In reality, he's only a small part of a 3 branch system, and can't go running around like a madman without consequences.\n\n",
"Ok so prove they end the same way.\n\nAnarchism hasn't even been tried on any significant scale, and the one example of it worked brilliantly but it was defeated militarily after only 3 years of existence.\n\nThen you've got social democracy which has yet to fail or end in any of its examples.\n\nAnd Marxism-Leninism which failed due to beurocratic issues, not critical inherent economic failure. Every issue they had is the result of government mishandling, not \"socialism.\" ",
"Please refute each of my points. They are all true.",
"What? Hitler started being Hitler the fascist dictator nearly immediately after taking power. He banned all other political parties and then executed any opposition he had within his own party ruthlessly. All within 16 months of taking power. [Read more](http://www.open.edu/openlearn/history-the-arts/history/hitlers-rise-and-fall-timeline#) if you'd like. ",
"The first point about the Judge I'll give you. I only read brief points about it and don't have the full story. If President Trump said it was because of his Mexican heritage, that is absolutely disgusting. \n\nBy retweeting white nationalists? When you label everyone a nazi, then isn't everyone a white nationalist? I see even Ben Carson being labeled at a white supremacist. That term is extremely broad when the left uses it. \n\nLearn to read? Triggered? I'm offering counter points - don't try to say I'm not having a discussion because I responded to your claim that President Trump is Hitler. \n\n\"I'm not going to waste time with this.\" So you're admitting you don't have a point, and instead of offering real sources and real counter points, you just instruct me to \"see it for what it is.\" You don't change peoples minds with feelings, you change them with facts - something you have yet to offer.\n\nYou compared President Trump to Hitler. Hitler blamed the Jews. The elites are the ones who have been oppressing the lower class people in the United States. Even the media has acknowledged this. Remember the whole occupy wallstreet thing? The 1%ers? These people have not paid their fair share and it is hurting the economy substantially. By blaming the people who are actually responsible for the economy drop, how is that Hitler? Hitler used a scape goat.\n\nI did look at the Tax Bill. I did see how the off-shores accounts will be taxed if owned by an American. I did see the death tax that destroyed farming families disappear. I see the $5000 increase in family with an income of less than $40,000. I see the children tax gone and letting families keep more of their own money. I see the people who make less than $20,000 not have to pay income tax. I see the ACA being repealed and not forcing people to use only one plan. I see the competitive market striving to make insurance for people. I see the 35% increase in income for people earning less than $200,000. These people are the majority of the country. They are the ones who elected President Trump - and he is delivering in a massive way. \n\n",
"Not everyone knows you're joking. ",
"That’s a pretty big question I’m not sure anybody can answer. ",
"The Apprentice is like...crap idk",
"Can you really not see how there's a significant difference between those two situations?",
"If Fox is propaganda for Trump, would you also say MSNBC, CNN, ANY Times etc are propaganda for Obama/Hillary? \n\nI'm a lifetime Democrat and I know that they lie to support the left. I have never considered them or fox \"propaganda.\" It's such a ridiculous statement.\n\nTrump uses Twitter to defend himself against a very hostile media. I didn't vote for him and I definitely don't support him but how many lies has the media been caught in against Trump? CNN admitted during the election they were helping Hillary and now we found out the FBI under Obama was helping Hillary. This is a crazy time in politics. \n\n\nDo you really disagree with Trump on lible laws? The media in general will flat out like about people and the suffer no consequences for their actions. ",
"Despite what Newt Gingrich would tell you, truth is usually factual and not based on gut feelings. ",
"So maybe you believe that one effect (call it the mainstream liberal news effect on elections) is greater than another effect (the social media shared fake news effect on elections). \n\nBut that's not what you claimed originally. You claimed that the existence of the former made the existence of the later implausible, and you still haven't explained your logic. One can be larger than the other, and both still meaningful.",
">During a TV debate Trump openly advocated for the execution to Arab Muslim civilians **who are associated with a terrorist group** \n\nFTFY. Still wrong, but very different from what happened to the Jews",
"Chef is drinking the kool aide",
"The problem is our free press has no integrity anymore, and it isn't because of Trump's actions whatsoever...it's because of their own. Say/believe what you want to about his recent \"fake news\" awards, but not a single award was unwarranted IMO. Integrity means offering unbiased truthful facts that have been verified, which not very many outlets still do to the extent needed in today's 24/7 click-bait news cycle.",
"Japan had 2 conditions for surrender:\n\n* They would surrender to the Americans or British, AND NOT THE RUSSIANS\n\n* They would keep their Emperor within Japan.\n\nWe demanded unconditional surrender. They complied with our demand for unconditional surrender after the deaths of some hundreds of thousands of civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.\n\n> Oh yeah, just kidding, you can keep your emperor and we won't let Russia have you.",
"That’s insane. You can count on the same ridiculous 3 comments on there in every thread. Just like /r/the_donald. They are the counter parts of each other. And the fear mongering in /r/politics reaches palpable levels every. Single. Day. Seriously. If you can’t accept that, then they’ve got you hook line and sinker. ",
"Megalomaniacs make their own news hence reality.",
"Obama said it before Trump? I just googled and couldn’t find anything. Send me a link. \n \nRegardless, Trump uses the term “fake news” as the msm. He never picks on a story and shows why it’s wrong. Trump is doing dictatoresque broadstroke discrediting the legitimacy of the media, without showing any proof of his claims. If Obama used the term fake news towards Wikileaks... Wikileaks is classified as an enemy of the state. Obama wasn’t doing it against Fox News as a whole. Maybe stories he disagreed with, but didn’t make any attempt to wholly delegitimize them. And that’s after 8 years of them saying he was born in Kenya and was a Muslim. \n \nYou’re on the wrong evil side of history. You’re brainwashed by a wanna be dictator bud. ",
"It took some real balls to show this sign! I'm always impressed that these protestors run the risk of imprisonment to make these brave statements.",
"Don't be to sensitive, I'm using it in the greek sense: \"In the Classical Greek legal system, two key technical terms were employed: the prosecution delivered the kategoria (κατηγορία), and the defendant replied with an apologia. To deliver an apologia meant making a formal speech or giving an explanation to reply and rebut the charges,\" [wikipedia]",
"Russia is and has been for decades a major world power.\n\nThey're not lousy or weak. They have demonstrably impacted elections all over the world and have seized by force and by subterfuge land from a sovereign government.\n\nThey're not the illuminati, they're a world power run by a kgb assassin.\n\n",
"Canadian here, actually... Watching the shitshow develop is similar to witnessing a car accident that was totally preventable. America is doing its best to outdo the falls of so many hubristic nations. Unfortunate because I don't think Canada wants any part of the aftermath. I hope the ship gets righted in time. ",
"\"new press\" what does that even mean?",
"Fema camps",
"Because there is no way the media would lie. If you say they are then you are hitler is what I'm gathering. Always trust the MSM kids they wouldn't lie to you. That's mean.",
"I'm aware. I'm attempting to explain why the comparison is valid to people who blatantly can't discern nuance on their own.",
"It's not clear which one was used first. Both of them are okay now though, but I can't be bothered to do research (is that better?)",
"When hitler came to power the had the \"night of knives\" where they killed a bunch of his political rivals. It took years of speeches and other propaganda before hitler could get to that point. Hitler started out looking a lot like trump does now. And you dont need to destroy government by killing, you can just de-legitimize and degrade the authority of government, there by destroying it, by simply being an idiot and not knowing how to do the job and making false and irrelevant statements like trump is going now.",
"And yet people continue to do it. \n\nI remember the Holocaust survivor AMA. Person basically said what you said. \n\nIn comes some hyper liberal neckbeard \"ackshually Drumf is Hiterally Litler\"",
"He didn't ban muslims, he wanted to ban people from predominantly muslim countries because they have this funny habit of being radicals who blew shit up.\n\nNow tell me how many muslims were committing acts of terrorism in Germany, hmm? And how many Jews while we are at it?",
"Attempting to integrate with the dominant culture. This does not mean having to give up aspects of your culture. Respecting the base values that the country holds (essentially the constitution).\n\nPrioritizing American nationality. Waving foreign states flags as your own shows a loyalty to another nation before America. Nation =/= culture.\n\nRespecting the law of the land would be one as illegal immigration is based upon the breaking of the law. This is not to say that those who break the law are necessarily un-American.\n\nI will say that was a good question and really caused me to think. I am still open to having my mind changed as to what \"becoming American\" means if a convincing argument is presented.",
"Im commenting on the fever dream that antifa is a massive organized conspiracy. Yes isolated protests happen. Your point?",
"Well to be fair hitler wasnt as bad as hitler till he started fucking things up royally. ",
"I can see you're not interested in expanding the discussion.",
"[it was stickied to the top of the sub](https://web.archive.org/web/20170819134328/https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6rsng3/unite_the_right_in_charlottesville_next_week/)",
"Mmhmm. His ppl are cutting deals amd snitching because its all a hoax",
"I dunno, I think giving up the billionaire lifestyle to run for public office is a pretty big self-sacrifice. The guy definitely like stroking his ego, though.\n\nGeorge Washington is talking about group dynamics in politics, i. e. party politics. Given the fact that Trump has always been treated as an outsider makes this use of the quote a laughable misuse. The second part, specifically\n\n>\"...It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.\"\n\ncan easily be used against the opposition of Trump, they are so rabid and fear-mongerous that they don't care how much immoral shit they do as long as they get the \"racist, mysogonistic, homophobic, Hitleresque Cheeto\" out of the office.\n\n.\n\nAlso, using Eco as the basis for Trump being a fascist? Lol, I might as well pull out McCarthy...\n\nTrump wants to establish the Rule of Law again. He doesn't worship traditions (from day 1 he's operated differently than any other president).\n\nTrump marks the rejection of *Post*-modernism. His supporter base is Lockean, and holds modern democracy & the Constitution in high regard. Again, complete lack of awareness.\n\nThe Cult of Action makes no sense, please expand.\n\nCome find me when trump-critical reporters start committing \"suicide,\" or holding liberal ideas gets you fired. \n\nFear of the unknown is a very logical thing, and the fear of the actively subversive is also logical. There is plenty of evidence that cultures with very conflicting world views do NOT get along, especially those who call for the extermination of people who don't believe the same thing...\n\nThis is valid. Angry people who don't get any representation vote in a populist. How very fascist!\n\nIronic, since \"muh Russia,\" \"dementia,\" and \"Trump is secretly working to install a fascist regime\" fall under this category. And the plots against Trump are (mostly) real. Look at the memo shit, the lack of quality coverage, and the amount of obstruction. My point is, cynicism isn't a sign of fascism. Again, lack of self awareness.\n\n\"The enemy\" in respect to Trump is very powerful, no one denies that. They *do* have weak points, like they can't meme or argue without the holier than thou attitude. This has been an uphill battle since the start, and no one wants to fall into the trap of complacency.\n\nPacifism is weakness, if you don't stand your ground you will get trampled on if other people don't respect you. That isn't fascist in the slightest, it's just how life works.\n\nBlue collar workers are such elitists, smh. Also complaining about Elitism while stroking yourself to Ur-Fascism? Top kek\n\nThe basic of classical liberalism is that hierarchies are natural - there are winners and losers, not everyone is a winner or loser. This makes no sense in the context of Trump, I'm pretty sure he picks out winners and losers.\n\nThis misogynistic prick hires a fuck ton of women...\n\nDid you not see the county results for the election? Don't even get me started on how ironic it is that you are complaining about selective populism when city hub liberals dictate the rules of entire states...\n\nt. Guy using Eco as an argument",
"Shifting the goalposts. Try again.",
"Net neutrality was the most recent eye opener to me at least from the Obama admin. The whole clamor that without Title 2 we will be subjected to censorship was absolutely ridiculous. Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit (excluding Alphabet Inc/Google) are the biggest proponents of unnecessary censorship on their platforms. This is their right as a private company, but when it comes to obvious political bias, that is where I draw the line. ",
"Nice try but I didn’t imply you couldn’t participate, just that it wasn’t intended for you",
"[/r/pics aka /r/politics](https://imgur.com/a/OA9fa)",
"You should read Ben Shapiro's book Primetime Propaganda ",
"It is literally not their job to \"give him a fair shake\". Reporting on the things he actually says and does is not bias. If you want to hear glowing bullshit about Trump every day, there is already an entire channel dedicated to that sort of nonsense.\n \n",
"He's not wrong, he's just an asshole.",
"Just not the nasty blue flavour",
"pretty low effort troll, imho.",
"Some people in this thread like Trump and think the comparison to Adolf Hitler is greatly exaggerated.\n\nSome people in this thread dislike Trump and appreciate the comparison.\n\nAnd some are indifferent and neither upvote nor downvote the post. There probably aren’t many of these types but they do exist.\n\nSo this is every kind of political post here on Reddit nowadays, people arguing over whether Trump is a good person, president and politician or not. Future posts will contain near-identical comments. No need to visit the comments of posts like these ever again, as you’ve already read it all!",
"*tips fedora* leftism is highly rational and intellectual philosophy for people like yourself",
"I'm going to support progressive candidates and vote, overwhelming alt-right idiots who don't even realize they're being played for chumps by the political grifters they elected with Russia's help. You don't even realize Ryan just made half a mil selling your ass out to corporations, do you? \n \nGOP incompetence will ensure the house and senate go blue, and Mueller will take down the lying, ignorant porn star-banging golfer in the White House. There won't be a fucking thing you can do about it.",
"It's also alt 0252 I think? ",
"Both political ideologies are based in logic, and both sides are infested with emotional idiots.\n\nYou've elucidated which you are.",
"And that is how trump is going to win 2020. Don't bother with Reddits bullshit. https://pastebin.com/JnS5Qy2Q",
">If truth has a liberal bias then lies have a conservative one.\n\nYeah...sure...\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTHGfJGf5ew\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbA5RE9eK08\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGOBp67fAOc\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFU0GFU_8IM\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMMJlXZFn84\n\nIf you honestly think CNN is unbiased, I can't help you either.",
"TIL Bill Clinton was a fascist because he claimed the media lied about his affairs.",
"What does that even mean? \n\nNobody is crying..\n\n\nEdit: Ok I see where you could have made a mistake, maybe if he was my president I would be crying. I get it, no need to be sorry.",
"[reducto ad hitlerum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum)",
"*too ",
"So most TV news networks don't lie very often? ",
"They're just words. Im not surprised a trump supporter doesn't comprehend them",
"They were attempting to run interference on the crazy shit coming from Wikileaks, all of which was direct from the horse's mouth. For example, anti-Catholic diatribes, Podesta's lament that a terrorist wasn't a white guy, artsy-fartsy Satanic-themed dinner parties with semen and blood as ingredients, etc. etc.",
"Sounds like a word in pennsylvania-dutch....that was made up....by Dwight Schrute...",
"Reading these comments is interesting. There are people saying that Trump is nothing like Hitler, and that it makes Hitler seem less bad when he is compared to a business man. After all, Hitler violently killed 6 million in a short amount of time.\n\nThe president isn't committed to that kind of slaughter. It's more appropriate in today's age to commit crimes and atrocities in the background and allow the repercussions to slowly be discovered over time. It's impossible to directly compare the two leaders, but it's important to remember that Hitler was not elected on his promise to kill 6 million people. \n\nIf one is able to draw similarities from Trump to Hitler, it should raise red flags. It's different than a direct comparison, but it should definitely be noted and remembered. We have no idea how far Trump supporters will go to support their president. That is alarming, and draws another parallel to Hitler's time. They are doing what they think is best for them and their country and feel justified in doing so.",
">there's also threat of deportation of longterm residents (my stepmom is at risk for this) and children who were brought over as babies\n\nSo when you and your family illegally sneak into Disneyland, don't pay, and are encountered by security, do you demand security give you free stuff and let you stay?",
"There has been a distinct change in the mainstream media in the past 2-3 years.",
"> it's questionably not far [from Hitler]\n\nIf instead of spewing bullcrap like this you people had ridiculed him on the fact that he claims vaccine to cause autism and global warming to be a conspiracy by chinese people maybe that cretin wouldn't be sitting on his chair right now.",
"Firstly, I don't think Hitler took control of the press in order to commit genocide. He did it because it was a potential threat to his rule. \n\nSo they both tried to undermine the free press in the interest of self-preservation in power regardless of the socio-political ramifications and moral implications. This is obviously bad, and it's characteristic of despotic rulers. And this is the whole point.",
"lol Reddit even manipulated its own site to keep right wing subs from appearing on /r/all.",
"I don't think the point is \"the nazis weren't as bad\" or even \"the allies were just as bad.\"\n\nI think the point is that there really weren't any \"good guys\" in the war. I mean, heck, we allied with the Soviet Union. Communist idiots killed some 50+ million people??",
"Not understanding obvious sarcasm is a sign of autism. ",
"Considering t_d is a sub dedicated to supporting the president, you aren't supposed to argue there. It is an echo chamber by design. You don't go to /r/NFL and try and convince them that American Football is a shit sport.",
"Scary 😑",
"> It is unclear whether Anton was a pseudonym.\n\nWhy, what have you heard?! Fake news!",
"So you misunderstood in on purpose? Id help you wipe your ass, but i think youd shit my hands on purpose",
"LIDDERALLY HIDDLER",
"I’m actually right in North Carolina. I’m in the Triangle currently, but I’ve lived in Burlington, Henderson, Raleigh, I’ve visited ex-girlfriends families, friends and acquaintances in Youngsville, Wake Forest, Virgilina, Kenansville, Sanford, Roxboro, etc(all pretty rural areas), and was always and confidently welcomed and included and treated with respect. That includes situations where I was meeting families of ex-girlfriends that were both white and black.\n\nMaybe I’m just insanely lucky. But it’s hard for me to have had that experience over 20 years in North Carolina and not come away thinking that there’s a lot of exaggeration probably going on. ",
"> that even seeing Trump get impeached via the current investigation\n\nGo on...",
"It's been discusses for decades, consensus has been reached. ",
"Hey hey look here you even found a way to feel superior to me! Damn you guys are good at this.",
"Holy crap, Hegel. I haven't had that name go through my head in a loooong time. My philosophy professor the first year of high school spent a month on the Hegelian Dialectic and Kant.\n\nI had an Aussie classmate, and I can still remember him making the same damn joke every time we did a new reading: \"I caaaaaa't understand kaaaaant.\"\n\nThanks for the burst of nostalgia, internet stranger!",
"A most amusing anecdote.",
"You could say whatever you want, but it has been proven that the media rarely is unbiased, and CNN employees themselves admitted it. ",
"thank you, i got so triggered",
"You can't back any of your statements with facts or evidence. This is called delusion. ",
"I find it hard to believe a picture of a uncreative, played out sign soared to the top of pics through genuine upvoting. So either it's reddit mods pushing posts that fit their agenda, or the site has turned to absolute shit if pics like this are the best to offer ",
"But Trump didn't coin the term \"fake news\", the left did, so they could have a way to dismiss anything that doesn't fit their narrative. (namely pizzagate, as they needed to be able to wave it away as a loony conspiracy theory once it started to gain traction) Trump simply threw it back at them by using the term to describe the way the media twists stories, presents misleading or flat-out false information, and selectively covers the stories that support their narrative while ignoring ones that challenge it. Now that it has completely backfired, the left is claiming it was Trump's creation to begin with. Nice try. If you want to use this to compare someone to Hitler, Hillary would be the one.",
"And Trump has gone on to call the MSM fake news as a way to discredit and muddy the truth. \n \nWashington Post and New York Times are as far from fake news as you can get. Triple source fact checking. ",
"Yeah, I have started making a concerted effort to read these court docs that come out. The most recent one I read was Glenn Simpson's Fusion GPS testimony. 165 pages. So boring, but when I was done and reading comments on /r/politics, I was dumbfounded. It was completely evident at least 75% of the people at best skimmed it and at worst did not read it. I would ask people for examples from the testimony to back up their claims and get shit on. \n\nIt's a tough world out there right now in terms of disseminating information. Especially when you have to combat thousands of your peers simply because they disagree with your view on the subject.",
"Get mad. It's the law.",
"Sorry, I don't understand which conclusions you've decided I've drawn for them to be considered \"bullshit.\"\n\nAll I've learnt from your comment is that you're a fan of the arbitrary left-wing, right-wing labels which do a pretty terrible job of summing up entire political ideologies.",
"You live in some America where none of the above happened? Pence didn't speak? The NRA isn't pushing violence? Evangelicals aren't sourcing hatred and fear? Where is this fantasy of America?",
"Yep.",
"Clearly the same thing. Thanks for the contribution. ",
"If you intend to use an English layout for a longer period of time set it to ENG International. Alt + q for ä + y for ü + p for ö and + s for ß.",
"You mean the two previous did the first year?",
"Accept the press today is actually lying ",
"Notice how no one EVER bashes his political decisions but bash him instead for \"he said fake news, he's hitler!\" ",
"What I'm saying is you espouse false statements as fact because you have no understanding of history and would rather just hope something is true because it conforms to your worldview instead of doing any amount of cursory research. ",
"Well Stalin was worse, so let’s just say that no man has come close to mid 20th century dictator levels of terror ",
"You’re exactly right. It is far and away the most toxic communities on this site. And the second you make a comment out of line step, you are crucified with their holier than thou attitudes. He’s a MYSOGONISTIC MURDERING, RUBBER DUCK FUCKING INBRED REEEEEEE. Look, he isn’t the lord and savior some think he is, but he is far from making literal Hitler comparisons too. That is insulting. Hitler literally murdered millions of innocent people. Comparing the two at this point is depreciating of what those people actually experienced. ",
"Did you see that cornholio one a couple days ago?",
"They were also talking to the French, british, Japanese, etc. Shit even Hillary's people were talking to the Russias and made deals with the Russians, but go ahead with your \"collusion\" story, that's gotten you far. Wake up America! ",
"Seeing so many people (and so many Russians) who don't really understand the point that this sign is making dismiss it as an overreaction is pretty disheartening.\n\nNo, Donald Trump has not rounded up anyone of a specific race and put them in concentration camps. A man that he pardoned of a crime, his friend and former Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio did, but that is a whole other point. \n\nThe message that this sign is sending is that the same tactics that Hitler used to consolidate his power enough in the 1930's are absolutely being tried by Trump today. He has not been nearly as effective as Hitler was at it, due to his own lack of intelligence and thankfully the strength of Democratic institutions, but he has tried in many ways.\n\nFor a start, and as this sign refers to, there is Trump's stance towards the media as being the \"Enemy of the American people.\" He calls every story that he does not like or that exposes his corruption fake. This is someone who wants the information that people receive to only come from him or his propaganda agencies like Fox News and Breitbart. Any error made in good faith, and almost 100% of the time corrected, by the press is seized and latched onto and blown up 1000x in order to try to make the media less legitimate in the eyes of Americans so that when real stories of corruption in Trump's orbit come out then people are less likely to believe them. These include his campaign manager Paul Manafort laundering millions of dollars from Ukraine, his National Security Advisor Michael Flynn admitting to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russia, and countless other examples.\n\nAnd I am not sure why anyone would say that comparisons to Hitler not warranted when Donald Trump called the actual Nazi's marching through the streets of Charlottesville, Virginia last year \"Very Fine People\", even after one murdered a woman there by running her over with his car. \n\nThe way that he scapegoats and attacks immigrants from Muslim countries and Hispanic countries and tries to blame them for unrelated problems in our country is also what Hitler did with the Jews. He tries to make people angry at a certain group of people and then exploit that anger for his own political goals and gain.\n\nHe thinks that the job of the United States Justice Department is to protect his wrongdoing from being exposed rather than to enforce the law, as shown by many tweets, especially the ones attacking his attourney general for not protecting him. He tries to delegitimize the FBI constantly as well. This is another one of his authoritarian impulses.\n\nI really could go on and on. The comparison between Trump and Hitler is really about the authoritarian ways that Hitler took power, not what he actually did with it afterwards. If you have not seen that over the last year in America, you simply have not been paying attention.\n\nThis is a complicated issue and it's easy to dismiss the left as overblowing things if you aren't following the news closely. People might see criticisms of Trump and instantly dismiss them with \"Oh, he can't be that bad...\" But he is that bad. He really, really is.",
"So a guy that dislikes gays is similar to a guy that helped murder millions of innocent people?\n\nYou certainly like watering down atrocities to suit your narrative. ",
"Trump weaponized the words against CNN.",
"Oh yeah? How hard are you",
" Two scoops. TWO SCOOPS!!! REEEEEEE",
"This has to be one of the worst subs on reddit.\n\nTheres nothing from a photography standpoint that makes this noticeable.\n\nI dont really know the mission statement of this sub, but whatever it may be at this point it isnt pictures. It's how we can flood reddit with anti trump spam.",
"Yuri bezmenov.\n\nI bring him up occasionally when explaining things to people.",
"Wow he must be literally Hitler then.... Wow thanks OP, you've opened my eyes!",
"Lol. Adults understand consequences. Emotional children (that's you) don't understand consequences. It isn't \"uprooting your entire life ermahgherd\", it's enforcing the law of the land. If you don't want to go to jail, the don't commit crimes. If you don't want to get deported, then don't sneak into countrys you aren't a citizen of and attempt to start a life with absolutely no intention of becoming legal. Why am I supposed to have empathy for someone who had 30 years to get legal and never did? You have a family and your kids are in college? That horrible but still none of you are legal. Blame your parents. Why is that anyone's fault but the parents? I understand that coming across the border legally isn't always an option. A lot of people can't afford it, or their home country makes the process so prohibitive that sneaking in becomes the only way - I get it. But get legal. Asap. 30 years is a slap in the face of a country that took you in.",
"No. The term has been in use since 1850s\n\nhttp://m.spiegel.de/international/germany/bild-1079049-960848.html\n\nhttp://m.spiegel.de/international/germany/most-germans-think-the-press-is-lying-to-them-about-refugees-a-1079049.html",
"You said yourself earlier that Trump isn't doing so in order to gain power. He is doing it to cover scandals, which is vastly different. If you honestly think that Trump is attempting to become a dictator through \"fake news,\" I think that you are being very disingenuous. \n\n",
"yes definitely yes oh my god yes exactly my point yes my dude yes yes yes",
"Pretty sure I'd heard obama use the word fake news first",
"It's absolutely not \"URL's\" unless the thing being talked about is a part of the URL, or the URL... somehow owns the thing being talked about. The apostrophe before the **s** means it's the possessive suffix.\nThe only exception is when you use it to shorten the word **is**, like I did in that last sentence.",
"Are *all* nouns capitalized? I didn't realize that.",
"Whenever someone says he's \"not as bad as Hitler,\" they're considering Hitler's end product. Trump is absolutely mirroring the early years. \n\nSo, yes, there's fear mongering and slippery slope thinking happening here, but it's still an apt comparison for their shared authoritarian beliefs. \n\nOf course, Trump will likely succumb to dementia before he could completely dismantle American democracy, but what he has been doing, stacking the courts with authoritarians with little respect for women's and LGBTQ rights (or any non-white, non-Christian, for that matter) is deeply troubling. ",
"Killing millions of Jews wasn't within his legal right. Please post your source for that. ",
">Conservative\n\nYeah, that’s the problem. ",
"But they are saying even people born in their country of a different race are not welcome **only** because of their race. That is racism...",
"Even Trumpism if not held within logical skepticism would be a bad thing. I am all for shaking up D.C and setting modern precedent for non politicians to enter the playing field, but at some point you have to come back down to earth and realize that being the center of the world all the time based of your words and not your actions is not sustainable. There are definitely aspects of those groups that are terrible that you pointed out, but a lot of it is at least based on optimistic values. It just doesn't usually mesh with the real world at all times.",
"Haha uhh i don't think youre educated on anything let alone econ or politics. \"Push fir societal collapse\" omg i cant, my sides hurt from laughter. \n\nI hope we get to the future of a borderless, stateless society and i hope youre not around to complain when we do. ",
"Except CNN is fake news and would probably, and has, painted hitler in a neutral way. ",
"The head of state is the representative of the country, like a king or a queen. You cannot have a head of state that goes around disrespecting other countries every other day because it causes a blowback on your country. It is sad that so many Americans doesn't seem to understand that yet.",
"No... comparing the usage of the phrase \"fake news\" as \"something that nazis would say\" IS poisoning the well.",
"cnn was literally PROVEN to lie and make up stories but.. OMG GUIOSE hes just like Hitler Hur dur hur.!!",
"Have I spewed a lil hyperbole today? Yes. Are people fools for thinking it's business as usual and we are immune from fascist tendencies. Yes.",
"Did you already forget about the original picture? Trump, like Hitler is trying to delegimize the press by claiming objective facts to be lies. Everything that paints a bad picture of the Trump administration is considered lies. He's even succeeded at it, polls show that slightly less than half of republicans think factual but negative news about Trump is \"fake news\".\n\nWhat you took examples of are things Hitler did that has NOT been claimed to have been done by Trump. The original pictures didn't claim that, I didn't claim that. Stop making things up.",
"That's just the proper way to write \"Der Germans\" when using an English keyboard.",
"good bot",
"It IS hard considering Hitler was a Nazi and Trump is one of the few world leaders supporting Israel, a Jewish majority country.",
"That dossier is a red herring used by Republicans to distract from the current administration's criminal ties. If that congressional GOP memo actually had any bombshell revelations, it would have been released already. Otherwise, people need to stop getting caught up in political theater and vote out the people obstructing justice. ",
"\"jar jar is the key to all this\"",
"And a few million other apparently less important people?",
"Like diamonds, baby ;)",
"Comparing a genocidal dictatorship with a buffoonish politician who tweets offensive stuff = relevant \n\nComparing a genocidal dictatorship with another genocidal dictatorship = irrelevant.",
"If anything proves that Trump's attacks on the press are justified is was that press conference with presidential doctor the other day. It was sad and hilarious at the same time.",
"Pence is gay. There’s no doubt.",
"Holy shit. \n\nYou really think for a second his power transcends that of the entirety of congress? That he would be able to build death camps without domestic and international outrage? How stupid. The Jews were in a much different position than illegal immigrants are in the US, they were largely demonized in most of Europe, for example, the [Pogroms](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom). And honestly, that's the very least that is flawed with your argument. Germany didn't face its financial woes due to their treatment of the Jews. Most outside of German controlled regions had no clue that Jews were being targeted. This information was nary disseminated due to the fact that no one *cared*. Germany was poor from their wartime expansion, sophistication of hardware and the related costs of R&D, and the number of sanctions on the Reich. \n\nTake a civics course or something, your malignant ignorance is both astounding and enraging. ",
"big if ruse",
"I've always seen it as more of a warning. ",
"Yes the media does lie a lot. Hitler knew that, and so does trump. SO does anyone who pays attention.",
"Hm, the second top comment is about how the white supremacists will hate them, but they're going anyway to unite against a common enemy, communists. There's, in all likelihood, some white supremacists that frequent t_d, but it's pretty clear that most of them believed they were joining together with some lesser evils to fight against some greater evil.",
"big if ruse",
"Crazy how one used actions while the other uses free speech. Must be nice. ",
"People who accuse the news of lying are now Hitler. Got it",
"Because most of Reddit is full of liberal users",
"Shh, they can't comprehend that they are pivoting away from the discussion. It's too much of a step for their minds to handle.",
"He says, while the US government is currently shut down",
"I think it's inspired by his relation to the Koch brothers, the Koch brothers relation to the Nazi party & Trump's hesitancy to explicitly condemn white supremacy.",
"Didn't read any of your post but all your links are from 2017 or 2018. The origin of the term \"fake news\" was in November 2016, with regards to Pizzagate. Example:\n\nhttp://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-38156985\n\nThe media called it fake news even though it wasn't news, just speculation on a conspiracy (like Russiagate). So we co-opted the term and use it against the fake news media who mostly prints unsubstantiated speculation.\n\nYou're welcome.",
"Really hoping that communism moves into the farce stage soon. ",
"Thank you for your measured and intelligent response, drumpf69....",
"I didn't mention anything about leftists being more rational, I said The_Donald doesn't allow rational thought. There's a difference.",
"Not a fair comparison, it’s just Adolf and Oranges.",
"We get it. Trump is hitler. I wish i was a republican so I could get some actual joy out of the idiotic comparison ",
"i still dont it",
"Ha. ",
"sow discord, as in plant the seeds, not stitch together ",
" It really isn't that bad. People like to do this because it is easy to reap fake internet points by Trump hating, plus people who are unable to actually make an arguable point like to compare people who disagree with them to Hitler. It's much easier to go \"You disagree with me? You must be a Nazi!\" As opposed to actually sitting down, having a respectful political discussion, and finding out that the opposite side actually has some worries and some intelligent arguments. People don't like to find out that they may be wrong or misinformed. \n\nOn top of all of that it's very easy to take things anyone said out of context and compare them to Hitler or some other terrible person. This digital age has essentially destroyed a lot of truth due to sound and video bytes. Someone is able to take a video, cut it and the audio to make it sound like someone said the literal exact opposite of what they actually said and someone somewhere will believe it. \n\ntl;dr: Trump isn't the best president and Trump isn't the worst president and you may have your dislike for him, but he's nowhere close to Hitler. ",
"More like fake RUs",
"Did he use two hands? IMPEACH ",
"Most historians start the clock on Hitler's rise as being about 1919 or 1920. The timeline you suggest also supports that view. His rise ended in 1933 when he was appointed Chancellor.\n\n",
"Email \"scandal\"",
"The difference is Hitler had most of his country behind him and Buzzfeed wasn’t considered a news source back then. \n\nApples and oranges. ",
"When one side of the political spectrum in the country has slowly grown to encompass the center-left, center, and center-right of actual politics, and the other has been divorcing reality since the previous admin and just signed the papers while jumping off the deep end with the current, I'm not surprised a lot of people can't help but shake their head or act smug. I don't think it helps but that said, \"The liberals are starting to acknowledge their childish delusion\" doesn't exactly sound unsmug either does it?\n\nThe irony being the incredible amount of denial of facts and science currently being pushed by the political wing that doesn't include \"the liberals.\"",
"I already agreed with your statement that that most of his supporters aren't neo-nazis. Of course they aren't. Anyway it does seem to me like neo-nazis support trump more than previous republican candidates, which is somewhat concerning.\n\n>most of the human traffickers and rapists are also Clinton/democrat supporters\n\n1. I don't believe this statement to be true, even if it were, how would you know?\n\n2. Human trafficking/rape aren't political movements? I'm not sure how this would be relevant to the discussion even if it were true. Like it's not like human traffickers are campaigning for human trafficking to be made legal. ",
"How pitiable. ",
"Especially when the press really did have it out for trump. ",
"You guys are so cute. Trying to distract from satanic semen cooking etc? you realize all that had to do with the artist Marina Abramovic? Give her a google. The rest is all small potatoes. Wikileaks is not the friend of the United States or it’s people like you think. It’s got a total agenda now. It wants the US destroyed.. and Trump is the perfect tool for now.. wait til they turn on the GOP and Trump. If/when Putin allows them. ",
"> Where was the accountability for CNN claiming only they could read the leaked emails? \n \nThis never happened, and a media outlets job is not to report leaked information unless it can be verified. I know that is confusing given Fox's propensity for reporting literally anything anyone says in earshot. \n \n> Where was the accountability for them saying \"We could not have done more to help Hillary\"?\n \nThis didn't happen in any meaningful way at all. The comment you are referring to (since your conspiracies are so weak I'll just assume it's the obvious one) was from 2014. The comment was referring to CNN's coverage of the book that she released in 2014. \n \n> You're going that way in a conversation about bias towards the Clintons? \n \nYes, because everything you think you know about the Clintons comes filtered through a Rupert Murdoch led smear campaign that has lasted the better part of 2 decades. Everything that has ever been brought to investigation has been proven false... so you really need to start considering the source of your outrage.\n",
"Firehose of falsehood.",
"Hitler and Trump said similar things therefore Trump=Hitler. Got it. ",
"Yeah because everybody was open minded about the Trump presidency before the net neutrality situation came to a head. lol",
"You're lying. AfD never criticized anyone because of race.",
"Again, refer to my description of what a comparison actually is.\n\nI am not saying they're the same thing, or even nearly the same thing.",
"Oh, well then..",
"It really isn't that bad. People like to do this because it is easy to reap fake internet points by Trump hating, plus people who are unable to actually make an arguable point like to compare people who disagree with them to Hitler. It's much easier to go \"You disagree with me? You must be a Nazi!\" As opposed to actually sitting down, having a respectful political discussion, and finding out that the opposite side actually has some worries and some intelligent arguments. People don't like to find out that they may be wrong or misinformed. \n\nOn top of all of that it's very easy to take things anyone said out of context and compare them to Hitler or some other terrible person. This digital age has essentially destroyed a lot of truth due to sound and video bytes. Someone is able to take a video, cut it and the audio to make it sound like someone said the literal exact opposite of what they actually said and someone somewhere will believe it. \n\ntl;dr: Trump isn't the best president and Trump isn't the worst president and you may have your dislike for him, but he's nowhere close to Hitler. ",
"Can we stop comparing Trump to Hitler, please? They are incomparable. One was a very intelligent, evil man who made lots of people do evil things, and the other is a selfish idiot.",
"Comparing Trump to Hitler is retarded. ",
"You're being intentionally obtuse. If you're gonna have a conversation, don't be so childish.",
"You can dance around with semantics all you want, but the basis of my argument is that Hitler comparisons are extremely unwarranted. \n\nYes, if you want to be a holier than thou prick you can position yourself around that yes, Hitler and Trump both had two hands, but we both know that in the actual meat of the discussion - the ideological differences between Trump and Hitler - there is little comparison lest we generalize to the point of useless mush. Because of this, comparing Hitler to Trump is disingenuous.\n\nBoth your bed sheet and your sweater are blue, but our discussion is on the patterns and specific hues. Saying that they are both blue is very unhelpful when one is a royal purple-blue and another is washed out baby blue to the point of being almost grey. Saying they are both blue also doesn't describe their functions. Both are blue, but saying they are both blue doesn't actually describe anything useful about them; It's an ill-equipped comparison.\n\nWe CAN compare Sun Tzu to Mansa Musa, but there is so little in common that comparing the two is meaningless.",
"> the term was originally used in reference to fake news stories disseminated by fake news outlet websites set up by foreign entities attempting to sew discord is the US election.\n\nEr no. It was originally used to describe overtly false clickbait articles like \"Pope endorses Trump\" or \"Obama cancels election\". These articles didn't have any particular partisan bias, they were designed literally just as click bait. They had literally one goal, to earn these fake news websites money. The creators generally did not care at all about influencing the election, their sole goal was to increase traffic and thus ad revenue.\n\nThen Trump started using the term to describe mainstram news outlets like CNN, and eventually people like you started using the term to describe propaganda disseminated by foreign entities to influence American politics. ",
"I’m not here to debate wether or not Trump is a racist. To argue that he is not a racist is beyond foolish. ",
"Did he also change his middle name?",
"To be fair, the media has lied. Doesn't mean it's always a lie. ",
"No it’s not. He’s a man who ran for President and won. Whether you hate or love him I don’t care but comparing him to somebody who was responsible for millions upon millions of death is unwarranted and a true shame to the people who died from Hitler’s reign. Kinda like how most republicans called Obama the antichrist (so I don’t seem biased). It’s just a way to get the masses riled up about the “enemy”. ",
"And as bad as they may be at least t_d is right up front in telling you that they're biased and not hiding behind the ban hammer of 'bipartisanship'. ",
"Oh another Trump/Hitler comparison! These are always exciting and insightful.",
"Leftists ignore science too, see racial realism and the current state of sociology",
"What does it mean? [This](https://i.imgur.com/UsUXFsF.jpg) is one of the current reporters for The New York Times. How credible is someone whose hair looks like a flamingo?",
"I feel you rest of non U.S. American reddit. I'm sick of my country's politics too. ",
"> If you think male feminists are in it to get laid, you're truly deluded. \n\nI think you're the deluded one.\n\n VICE Journalist Commits Career Suicide Following Sexual Harassment And Assault Allegations http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/18/vic... Games forum NeoGAF in chaos after owner accused of sexual misconduct https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/23/1... A Follow Up on NeoGaf's Downfall After Sexual Assault Allegations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS9x9... Sneaky Male Feminism and Rape Hypocrisy http://www.newslogue.com/debate/731/B... Multiple Women Allege Abuse by Vice 'Male Feminist' Contributor http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/10... ‘Male Feminist’ Aleksandr Kolpakov Now Charged With First-Degree Murder http://theothermccain.com/2017/06/01/... The Last Thing Heather Anable Saw? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZqif... Progressive Performer Jamie Kilstein Ousted From Citizen Radio After 'Disturbing Allegations' https://jezebel.com/progressive-perfo... Another Male Feminist Accused of Sexual Misconduct https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/03/... \n\nAny women who hangs out with a male feminist is playing with a loaded gun.",
"He who is not a républicain at twenty compels one to doubt the generosity of his heart; but he who, after thirty, persists, compels one to doubt the soundness of his mind",
"*trump acknowledges Jeruselum as the capital of Isreal* \n\n**DRUMPF IS LITERLREEE HITLER**",
"I like how you structured your comment to imply that the nuclear bombings were somehow more devastating than conventional ones. Which they weren't.\n\nI also like the presupposition that morality and/or effectiveness of bombing campaigns can be measured in death tolls, without any regards to literally any and all context. Which they can't. \n\nThere is no moral equivalency between an ineffective bombing campaign on a defending liberal democratic society and strategic bombing on a genocidal regime that started a world war and the holocaust or the Rape of Nanking. ",
"This is what they did with bush too. He was a complete buffoon who simultaneously stymied the dems every effort and was therefore evil. ",
"\"Hitler did not do these things in his first year of office\"\n\nThis isn't hyperbole, it's a fundamental inability or unwillingness to understand history and historical context.",
"I don’t think they’re necessarily equating trump with hitler. But if we think about the implications of constantly discrediting not only the mass media but sometimes your own government agencies, well, then we can start thinking about hitler. ",
"No problem, time to carry on with the rest of my day, escourting teenage mothers to abortion clinics, smuggling rapefugees and drugs into middle America, and just generally trying to collapse society. \n\nAlso, white heritage is a milennia of exploitation and brutalization. ",
"Mainstream news has gone off the deep end in the past few years, if you can't see that then you're blinded by bias. This is not about \"well nobody is perfect\". There is blatant, unapologetic bias.",
"He attacks free press, women's, and lgbtq Rights. \nThere's 3.\nHis economic policies will hurt everyone but the rich, widening the already gargantuan gap between rich and everyone else, and putting an end to the \"American Dream.\"\nThere's 4.\nHe clearly has no respect for women and has sexually assaulted them. \nThere's 5.\nHe clearly has reduced mental faculties suggesting a brain disease. He doesn't even read reports, doesn't recognize people, and can't pay attention. His father had it, and dementia is hereditary. \nThere's 6.\nHe calls black people protesting peacefully \"sons of bitches,\" but violent neo-Nazis who killed a woman \"decent people.\"\nThere's 7.\nHe said he doesn't want immigrants from countries with black populations. He called Mexicans rapists. He says a judge couldn't do his job because of his race. He was sued and settled a suit from the U.S. government for racism. He is a racist. \nThat's 8.\nHe is in clear violation of the emoluments clause of the U.S. constitution., he has not divested from his holdings. \nThere's 9.\n\nThere are many more. Pick one. ",
"Did you just say something defending drumpf??? You must be a racist homophobic Nazi too!!\n\n/s",
"Not saying you're Wong, but how would bots be able to tell this is and anti-Trump political post? The title is just a misspelled german word.",
"He killed way more but the rest don't have the same PR skills to make their losses known. ",
"Because people are probably paying big money to have it here. ",
"Well, you’re definitely a lost cause lmao. Keep telling yourself all that though. ",
"I love how on the front page there's a joke making fun of the media for its blatant dishonesty and then there's this right below it.\n\n\n\n",
"Not really. It's an idea that's been in use since about the 1840s. Academically it's an outgrowth of critiques of the Enlightenment beginning with Marx and best developed in critical theorists since. Look in particular at Baudrillard. In the public sphere it's been called Yellow Journalism for a long time, used to be mostly in tabloids. In both Germany and the US, it was/has been deployed deliberately to gain and keep power and train the populace to follow only the immediate whims of the leader. Some people are more willing to fall for it than others. In the US case it's people who feel left out politically and/or miss an America where white men could get away with a lot more shit.",
"> You said yourself earlier that Trump isn't doing so in order to gain power. He is doing it to cover scandals, which is vastly different.\n\nNo, I said: \n\n> [...] the only reason they had to undermine the press is to negate the power it might have over them.\n\nWhich is to say, to stay in power. \n\n> If you honestly think that Trump is attempting to become a dictator through \"fake news,\" I think that you are being very disingenuous.\n\nNo, I don't think that. I'm saying the tactics he uses are bad enough.",
"It‘s not about comparing those two, it’s about comparing their language. And yeah, the nazis use(d) Lügenpresse, meaning that the media is lying, as trump uses fake news. Both used this tactics to discredit negative reports or information that is against their agenda. And comparing these tactics is pretty valid.",
"I'm not defending Trump's comments, just clarifying the origin of 'fake news'.",
"OMG guys he just said \"fake news!!!\" This guy is literally Hitler, too!!! We're in the midst of a Hitler epidemic!!! Someone call the CDC!!!",
"And they are right.",
"That was a story because he was specifically afforded special treatment as part of a long trend of weird, immature, stupid shows of power. The media talked about it for less than a day. They didn't call him Hitler. \n\nThe steak wasn't talked about as much as you think. Mostly opinion articles or shitty foodie discussion.\n\nIt's important to note that both of these things happened and the media wasn't \"deceitful\" about it.\n\nRemember when Trump bragged about walking in on underage girls changing and bragged about groping women? \n\nRemember how that was *on tape* and Trump, after admitting it was him, started to deny it? \n\nRemember how Trump's White House has a weird history of affirming bigots? From pardons to positions the staff, it's become a trend. \n\nRemember how Trump made sure to put a lot of blame on the people protesting against literal neo-nazis when one of those neo-nazis murdered a woman?\n\nRemember how Trump lied about his inauguration attendance, then accused the media of slandering him even though the media accurately showed the attendance?\n\nRemember when Trump lied about voter fraud after he won the election because he couldn't handle not winning the popular vote?\n\nRemember how Trump retweeted bullshit made-up statistics about race? \n\nRemember how Trump went on Infowars to praise the show?\n\nTrump is a bigoted, deceitful ass. Television media has their problems, but Trump is still bad. The media gets things generally right, and the alternatives people go to when they talk about this stuff are a thousand times worse. People complaining about the mainstream media being \"fake news\" shovel that shit -- fake news, that is -- into the mouths as long as it's pro-Trump, affirms their biases, or is vaguely edgily antiestablishment. If you go to Infowars because cable news sensationalizes or misreports sometimes, you're an idiot.",
">fake news\n\nYou mean Lügenpresse, dont you?! Nazi identified!!!",
"Doesn’t mean they are on the same trajectory. It’s like calling people who like pasta Hitler because Hitler liked pasta. ",
"Reducto ad hitlerum ",
"I wish it was that innocent and simple. Unfortunately that comfort snowballs into radicalism over time and being intolerant to hearing other side’s opinions so the comfort won’t be disturbed. Then comes the beheadings. \nI wouldn’t call your grandma stupid, it would be definitely rude but I might call this the result of fear. \n\nBut I think your grandma should also hear the argument that there are other ways to comfort than lying to yourself. Unfortunately it takes more effort to choose that side. And lastly I think if we’re trying to go for a win/win situation don’t you think god can figure out that we’re tricking him?",
"I love every time this happens. It really hurts the credibility of this site.",
"I'm not trying to agree or disagree with op per se, but I do see their point in that right now we seem to have a significant group of population that is seeking something, anything that they can feel victimized by. As a society we're focusing on the negative aspects of life rather than taking a second to appreciate the fact that if you're in Europe or North America right now you are so lucky to have been born in this time in this place. In fact it's insane how lucky we all are. Even a hundred years ago we would all be in for such a rough ride. \n\nIt's great to want to improve, nobody will deny that, but it's also good to take the time to appreciate what you have. ",
"Holy nazis-did-it-first Batman!\n\nWW1: Fake news = foreign propaganda \n\nWW2: Fake news = opposing political party\n",
"> Ok so prove they end the same way.\n\nName a communist country.",
"Don't bother replying to \"BluestateAR15\", just take a peak at the few comments on his 27 day old account and you'll get the picture.",
"Or outright edit footage. Like the zimmerman 911 tapes.\n\nHow is it okay for them to bash President day and night, but president isn't allowed to call them out on it?",
"> as opposed to admit everything they have ever known and dedicated their life to was a lie\n\nWell, considering they and their families can be \"disappeared\" for doing so, I would be cautious as well.",
"Ok cool. See ya later ",
"Nothing even close to as shitty as the cults of Christianity, or far/alt right extremism, but I get your point.",
"What a stupid subreddit this has become, I'm unsubscribing and so should the rest of you",
"Dead dosnt mean it can't come back, but its a laughing stock right now. The old parties are a joke. Just last week they sneaked a 89% increase in their paychecks through. Merkel has been very clearly voted out but didnt have the audacity nor respect to step down, she didnt respect the voters when she caused the crisis and she dosn't now.",
"Don't do drugs, kids.",
"And \"fake news\" originally meant made up articles posing as news from those \"fake news sites\".",
"r/MurderedByWords",
"Hitler was literally anti-socialist and anti-communist. See his activities in 1919 for the army, and his joining of the DAP in 1920. To quote:\n\n\"In July 1919 Hitler was appointed Verbindungsmann (intelligence agent) of an Aufklärungskommando (reconnaissance commando) of the Reichswehr, both to influence other soldiers and to infiltrate the German Workers' Party (DAP). The DAP had been formed by Anton Drexler, Karl Harrer and others, through amalgamation of other groups, on 5 January 1919 at a small gathering in Munich at the restaurant Fuerstenfelder Hof. While he studied the activities of the DAP, Hitler became impressed with Drexler's antisemitic, nationalist, anti-capitalist and anti-Marxist ideas.[7]\" [wikipedia]\n\nYou seem to be a typical Neo-Nazi type propagandist. Maybe pick a better avocation, everyone's life will be improved.",
"Agnosticism is a measure of your certainty, not what you believe. You're confusing gnostic atheism with all of atheism. \n\n\"I don't know if there's a god, but I don't think there is\" is agnostic atheism.\n\n\"I know there is a god\" is gnostic theism. ",
"What?",
"Actually a lot of Libturds think Trump is Hitler. ",
"Divide and Conquer and how the revolution eats its children and whatnot.",
"Similar one blaming Republicans for Donald Trump's rise to power. I'm sure that is why Michigan, Pennsylvania, and various other blue states went red in 2016. ",
"This is one of those posts I think a pro Trump person from 4chan would post. They know that anti Trump people/bots are going to upvote it and once it gets to the top it only makes the left look like idiots. Here we are, so it worked. ",
"> Hm, the second top comment is about how the white supremacists will hate them, but they're going anyway to unite against a common enemy, communists. \n\nOh, so they just want to unite with the nazis and KKK. Some very fine people there.\n\nOh believe me their were and still are plenty of comments that were just white supremacist propaganda. I'm sure you noticed all the censored and deleted comments.",
"T R U M P I S H I T L E R",
"Nah who could possibly predict an uncontrollable weapon to turn on its creator that never happened in history.",
"CNN used to have a mild liberal bias. In the past two years they have shown a profound liberal bias. If you can't see that then you have been brainwashed. They're no better than Fox at this point.",
"Yea dont do cocaine like the president",
"My googling turns up nothing specific, though there are a lot of Jorge Garcias accused of murder apparently. ",
"So you can be compared to Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. Imagine someone outside your school or work with their pictures, a few words, and then yours. Comparisons can be made. But would you think that would make any sense at all?",
"\"I wanna purge an entire ethnicity from existence.\"\n\n\"Wait what?\"\n\n\"But I also wanna nationalize businesses and give insurance to the elderly\"\n\n\"Oh. It's all fine, then.\"",
"What on that list should not be brushed of as fake news?",
"Actually not new here on reddit, and I have seen few posts and comments comparing trump to hitler in such manner. Most simply compare certains things that trump and hitler have in common, not including the worst atrocities of Hitler like the Holocaust. \n\nAlso, you might not agree, but one thing some people bring up in these posts is that Hitler was in some ways brought to power by saying/doing certain things that are akin to what Trump does or has done. That didn't come from me however, so take it with a grain of salt.",
"You can say \"plain and simple\" all you like but it won't make it so. ",
"The democrat party holds the national Democrat socialist movement (bernie). \n\n\n Who else was a national Democrat socialist...\n\n\n",
"ok, but if we were talking about a trait that is shared between both the stream and the river (in the real world example here this trait would be attampting to delegitimize the media) than I can compare them because we're comparing a trait and not the size.",
"?",
"My biggest problem with trump is his unwillingness to represent and lead for all Americans. On many cases, his campaign strategy was to do exactly what you are talking about. He would explicitly sell out certain groups of Americans. This leads to three things, trump getting more votes, his voters feeling emboldened to act in ways consistent with what he says even though he may not actually believe what he says, and the scapegoat group felling unwelcome and un American despite things he is marginalizing being explicitly listed in the bill of rights. Trump's strategy required that he be willing to trade American ideals to get votes. He did this when he explicitly attacked Muslims and he did the same with Mexican immigrants when he said \"some I'm sure, our good people\" as an afterthought. \n\nAnother example of Trump being willing to sell out America as a whole to get votes is the boarder wall. He said in his phone call to the Mexican president that \"practically speaking the boarder wall is the least important thing but politically speaking it is the most important thing.\" I think a lot of people know this to be true and many of his supporters may actually agree but where it becomes really problematic is when he asks congress for $18b to pay for something that he admits is \"of minimal practical importance.\" No one who believes in conservativism would do such a thing if they believe what trump does. He is again selling out the American tax payer (at a cost of $18b) to get votes.\n\nI understand his \"genius\" strategy fully despite being a simpleton and I hate it because of this understanding.",
"*ahem ahem* The Onion.",
"Well if you think Marxism Leninism is what communism means then Cuba is probably the best example of all of them. Textbook Marxism-Leninism without interference from Stalin or Mao or any others who well, made it worse. ",
"> When you label everyone a nazi\n\nNo they are admittedly white nationalists. He then said that he thought it was true and that he doesn't really check it (and he gets elected, somehow) and didn't really know who they were, without ever apologizing. This doesn't make it any better, thousands and thousands of people , at the very least, read that crap.\n\n>\nI see the ACA being repealed and not forcing people to use only one plan\n\nBoth of these things are just wrong.\n\n> \n I did see the death tax that destroyed farming families disappear.\n\nThe repeal of this tax affects 5500 or so people, with only **80** being farmers. It also only applied to estates valued at more than 5 MILLION DOLLARS. These people were never poor or struggling to begin with. Farming is one of the most ironically subsidized industries anywhere in the world. I say ironically because you don't see republicans complaining about socialism in this particular case of \"handouts\" or \"choosing winners\" because it's part of their base.\n\nYes there are tax cuts for the poorer people too, but that's not the point, the tax cuts are achieved (even though, not completely because they WILL increase the debt, again ironically enough for republicans that have been yappering on and on about debt reduction the last 8 years) by cutting social programs, including medicaid and medicare, education, environment, the list goes on.\n\nThe reality is 20% of the raw value of the cuts go to the 1%. That's the problem right there. This is the come back of \"trickle down\" policies. No one is against cutting taxes for the middle income and poor people, the worst part is that those have an expiration date...\n\n>\n I see the 35% increase in income for people earning less than $200,000.\n\nSorry , what now?",
"True, but I meant more of the zealots. You can literally prove through carbon dating the age of rocks on earth but they would still deny the actual age of the planet. It's a lot easier to accept it all as fact rather than have a massive gaping hole in your narrative",
"[February 16, 2017](http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/politics/donald-trump-press-conference-amazing-day-in-history/index.html)\n\n[November 17th, 2016](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/world/europe/obama-angela-merkel-donald-trump.html)",
"You're right, we should just keep funding 3/4 of NATO for other countries who hate and disrespect us anyways. \n \nNot to mention the American lives that have been lost while attached to a NATO operation.",
"So if they deleted the comments, doesn't that prove that t_d is against white supremacy?",
"You are justifying mass murder. Hitler justified his mass murder as well. You can spin this however you want, but killing groups of people is mass murder any way you slice it. I do not subscribe to killing people for things they are not responsible for. Wars are fought by governments and special interests, not families going about their lives.",
"Oh god mary me",
"You should always want to verify what you are being told. Whether it be historical facts, science, or news. \n\nNews can be a bit trickier for the average citizen to verify. We don't have access to sources and people like journalists do. Why is someone in the State Department going to talk to me? \n\nIt ends up requiring some trust. It also lends itself to if the media lies and makes up stories, they will lose their credibility and will lose business. \n\nThe media gets things wrong often. They occasionally lie. But they are far more trustworthy than Trump atm. I'll remain skeptical of their bigger claims, but I'm far more inclined to believe them and wait for someone to point out their error than just assume it's fake news. ",
"> escourting\n\nHey everyone, look! He made a typo! That means he's a moron and I can write off his entire argument!!!",
"First, communism was active much longer in different populations. Second, the Nazis had plans to kill off 20M to 30M Slavs by starvation. They just didn't get the chance to implement it. And there are other differences.\n\nYou can't use body count as a yard stick.",
">The \"fake news\" term was being applied much more broadly than you're claiming. The mainstream media was using it to target legitimate media outlets that leaned right and favored Trump to try to get the social media giants to censor them, or at least downgrade their rankings, to make them not show up on news feeds on Facebook or in Google and so on.\n\nCould you find an example of this? I cited sources in my post.",
"Dear Germans,\n\nHow are we supposed to know that? We aren't taught how to transliterate foreign characters in school.\n\nThe Americans",
"Lol\n \nhttps://i.imgur.com/EkBbXRV.jpg ",
"I'll copy from my other reply:\n\nFirst, communism was active much longer in different populations. Second, the Nazis had plans to kill off 20M to 30M Slavs by starvation. They just didn't get the chance to implement it. And there are other differences.\n\nYou can't use body count as a yard stick.\n",
"Everything /r/politics touches is cancer",
"No, it proves they wanted to conceal their nazism for awhile longer. Also plenty of white supremacist propaganda comments are still up.",
"The point is to not trust the people calling 'fake news' unless they have proof. Don't blindly except that something is true unless they have hard independent evidence. If someone claims that something is fake without backing it up, they are probably covering something up. They are dismissing the validity of an idea without proving that the idea is demonstrably invalid.",
"Bush did start a war on false pretenses that caused the deaths of over half a million people, so there was that",
"Good point",
"That's why I resort to the BBC when it comes to news nowadays. It may have some biases but not on the level of many news channels here such as MSNBC which is far too left for me and FOX which is far too right for me. They each have an agenda and I don't like it. ",
"> made a typo\n\nWell i am a gay retard its only natural I'd misspell shit. ",
"So does that mean you're willing to give credit to Obama for cutting unemployment in half, Mr. Pot?\n\nLike I said, Trump managed to not completely fuck this one up yet. He deserves exactly the amount of praise I gave.",
"What? What do you mean it never happened? The video of him saying it literally exists.\n\n>Yes, because everything you think you know about the Clintons comes filtered through a Rupert Murdoch led smear campaign that has lasted the better part of 2 decades. \n\nWhat are you, a fucking mind reader? By the same standards as any of the MeToo campaign the media is all over, Bill should be getting dragged.\nAnd no, it wasn't properly investigated.\n\nJesus, it's like you're trying to rewrite history in real time with the added bonus of claiming you know where everyone gets their news from.\n\nGet out of the echo chamber.",
"You know, Stalin killed millions of people too!",
"Right? At least wait until he's killed a couple hundred before you start making comparisons!\n\nKidding aside. I agree. There are times where he seems so disastrously dishonest that I wonder if he's the turning point to usher in a terrible era of US history. There are other times where points he's trying to make have merit even if I might not agree. Comparing him to Hitler isn't a fair or legitimate comparison. It makes it too easy to lump real complaints in with this sort of baseless sensationalism. ",
">spiritual evidence\n\nAKA \"hey wait a minute! This isn't evidence, you're just telling me what you think!\" ",
"Thanks for that. ",
"There isn't. We're reaching the point where reporting the facts on Trump is \"bias.\" Calling him a racist because of racist remarks, calling him sexist for bragging about groping women, reporting on the Russia scandal (which is [an actual, like, *thing*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections) verified by the intelligence services with an actual investigation going on) is \"bias.\" Not straight-up accepting Trump's lies, or reacting to nuclear dick measuring contests with a little bit of alarm is \"bias.\"\n\n",
"Nah, this wouldn't fit their narrative.",
"There goes a Democrat",
"yeah the bbc is okay. videos like digital black face keep me from calling it the best news source out there, but with competition like cnn and fox, it’s miles ahead in quality. ",
"TIL it's \"American\" to violate the 4th amendment of the US constitution.",
"No I am not, I am saying left unchecked Trump would do much worse. He already tries daily to walk on the rule of law and doesn't even know it. He makes the rules in his mind, instead of fulfilling the position as defined by the US constitution. People defending him are happy with that, because they want to be led, not represented.",
"\\*Something good happens in America*\n\nRedditors like /u/Incontinentiabutts: \"It was Obama!!1!\"\n\n\\*Something bad happens in America*\n\nRedditors like /u/Incontinentiabutts: \"zOMG blame Drumpf regardless of his involvement!\"\n ",
"My great grandfather and his brother left Lithuania to come to America after WW1, the entire rest of the family was wiped out in camps. \n\nNobody can make the case that Trump is a great guy, but when you compare him to Hitler you are dumbing down the true evil that was the holocaust. What impression is shit like this going to leave with the next generation?\n\nSorry but fuck whoever made this sign. ",
"'Try'",
"This annoys me too. This annoys me about every political figure, all around the world. As a Brit this happens all the time, and it's really annoying. I think that's why people like Jacob Rees Mogg so much, because even if he knows he will lose votes for something people don't like he will say it anyways, because that's what he believes.",
"my point being you did this to u/mathwhilehigh a few posts up",
"> Waving foreign states flags as your own shows a loyalty to another nation before America.\n\nIf I wave a German flag during a World Cup game why am I no longer American according to you?",
"\"How is Trump like Hitler?\"\n\n\"WOW! Can you believe this guy is so contrarian? Someone call the admins, we got an obvious troll aisle 2! They are the same, everyone agrees!\"",
"yes, read my original comment\n\n“started a war that caused the death of 50m+ people”",
"And he's living rent free in your head.",
"I would think Germans would do their best to avoid being associated with grammar nazis...",
"“It’s time for the r/pics subreddit.... to end.”",
"They both try to undermine the free press in the interest of self-preservation in power regardless of the socio-political ramifications and moral implications; which is something pretty uncommon for democratic leaders but par for the course for despotic rulers. \n\nSo yeah, the comparison is warranted in my opinion. Can you come up with any other democratic leader which has attacked the free press so vehemently?",
"\"to push their agenda..\" \n\nWow you really are a piece of work. Oppression against women is on the rise and hundreds of thousands skipped work and went into the streets to come out about it. Women are the most oppressed people in our society. It's been made difficult for them to find jobs, find meaningful relationships and they are harassed constantly whenever they leave the house. I was at one of these protests, it was the only time in my life that I've felt truly safe, even as a straight male. \n\nEdit: keep the downvotes coming. Prove to everyone that the republican party is the party of intolerance.\n\n",
"Trumblr",
"Right but I'm a gay retard so its okay when i make mistakes",
"DRUMPH IS HITLER!! - every liberal ever",
"Besides, Trump's immigration plan is unrealistic! There's just no way someone could round up millions of people in their country and send them away somewhere!",
"So, then only subs which leave up the nazi comments are against nazis? You seem to be judging them by much harsher criteria than any other sub.",
"O_O",
"Well that's a stupid protest then.",
"*cough cough* T_D *cough cough*",
"And that's when you lose the argument. You're telling me Trump, an inexperienced senile cunt, is as bad as a malevolent dictator that invaded multiple countries, killed millions of innocent people for being different, and started the deadliest war in the history of mankind?\n\nFuck off.",
"Did you know that soros is actually a paid shill of the heritage foundation?",
"you just proved my point. I'm gonna make an assumption that you are an \"ally\" your job is to back us up and stay in the background if you catch my meaning. Thanks for the assistance though.",
"My comment was a response to this:\n\n> Everything is racist about labeling someone as being \"bad people\" when their judgement is solely based on the fact that these people are from a different country.\n\n",
"I must admit I wasn't aware of any imminent danger to Europe. What would that be?",
"What else would you expect from an avid user of r/LateStageCapitalism and r/FULLCOMMUNISM",
"They just feel it, y'know? They feel so logical.",
"if you say “hun” then you honestly just reduced your argument to zero\n\n\n\n\n\ndont mention that you need to be euthanized\n\n>inb4 “lul ur an edgy 13 year old ecks dee”",
"> and the DPRK is democratic\n\nNo the DPRK is communist lol",
"And what I'm saying is that Trump is not Hitler. He will never be Hitler. He will never be anywhere near Hitler even if you use your narcissist sob stories and blow him put of proportion with your imagination. You talk too much. For fucks sake, shut the fuck up and listen to the hard facts.",
"> Why is photographs of things that are political in nature any less \"photograph\" than anything else?\n\nIf it's a picture of nothing but writing that could just have been a shitty text post over on /esist then it doesn't belong on /pics.",
">What makes him a would-be-dictator?\n\nThat he praises dictators, has repeatedly attacked the democratic process, and seeks to undermine the checks and balances that prevent a president from becoming a dictator. You know, like we've seen in other countries, some of which Trump supporters love to rant on about.\n\n>How has he undermined the Democratic process?\n\nThis is a deep discussion, and I'm not interested in having all of it. Possibly. His \"I'm always right right now, screw evidence, screw facts, screw anything that gets in my way\" attitude is enough to show this. If you want evidence of that behaviour specifically, I'm not going to give you it. I'm not citation-farming for you.\n\n>How has he weakened western power?\n\nHe has repeatedly attacked institutions of Western power, like NATO, and criticized the USA's role as a leader in funding and leading such, despite the fact that doing so is entirely in America's interests. His concept of diplomacy is terrifying, even if you only look at what's known for certain. He has done nothing but fragment and divide Western power, and during cold war part II none-the-less.\n\nPretty much everything you just praised him for is either dangerous (reckless constant goading of NK), or literally just the benefits coming in of things that happened during Obama's presidency (ISIS, China), or which had literally nothing to do with him at all (Saudi Arabia, afaik).\n\nYou're also pretending I'm saying \"Trump did X,\" when that's a gross oversimplification of my post.",
"Only that the first one was a socialist",
"Totally agree...I've been here 10+ years and I was the same way before getting out in the real world ",
"No, it's more like only subs which promote a nazi/klan rally for weeks, which then blame a jew for weeks after when the nazis and KKK end up looking bad, are for nazis.",
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"The second largest war in history? What’s the largest war then? And don’t say Black Friday...",
"> it’s just the right leaning version of r/politicalhumor except the posts that make it to the front page are actually good posts. \n\nIt's the right-leaning version of /politicalhumor except occasionally it posts something funny.",
"That doesn't prove your point.",
"Calling Hitler a socialist is one of the most ridiculous bits of dogmatic garbage peddled by nuts on the right.\n\nIn either case, I can agree with criticism of the DNC's appalling behaviour.",
"Liberals: \"Holy shit Trump just threatened to NOT ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION this is treason and a threat to the core of our system!\"\n\nAlso Liberals: \"Wait, we lost? FUCKING RIOT IN THE STREETS!!\"\n\nEdit: I'm being a little dramatic but this was so funny as it was happening",
">I like how you structured your comment to imply that the nuclear bombings were somehow more devastating than conventional ones. Which they weren't.\n\nWere that my goal, it is odd that I immediately give an example of a conventional bombing campaign that was as devastating as the nuclear attacks. The examples were given in the order that I thought of them. \n\n>There is no moral equivalency between an ineffective bombing campaign on a defending liberal democratic society and strategic bombing on a genocidal regime that started a world war and the holocaust or the Rape of Nanking.\n\nI'm not sure how the atrocities of the Japanese troops somehow makes killing the civilian residents of Tokyo less bad. People don't become OK to kill because of actions of their military or government. ",
"There were good guys in the Second World War, insofar there were ever good guys in ANY conflict. We call them the Allies. \n\nThis moral equivalency is a rhetorical strategy employed by holocaust deniers like David Irving, by the way. \n\nIt is, of course, also the product of the \"golden mean\" fallacy, as well as contrarianism, and has been perpetuated in pop culture, so it's really common on reddit, needless to say. ",
"Or you know, them constantly attacking him on whether or not he had one or two scoops of ice cream. Him eating McDonalds in office. They attack him for the smallest things and it is absolutely ridiculous. ",
"This guy has no interest in reality, just points for his team in what he sees as the sport of politics. ",
"In this it’s not a fallacy. ",
"Trump is the closest thing to Hitler the DS had since Nixon.",
"Ah yes. Everryyyyyone is the same as everyone else as long as they're different from me. ",
"> the president then took that term and began applying it to actual US-based news outlets. \n\nWhich were doing things like giving him a \"mostly true\" rating on a statement that was completely true, but they didn't like how he said it.\n\nWhich is a pretty solid use of the term.",
"If you think the US government is designed to make it impossible for someone to become a dictator, you have literally no idea what you're talking about.\n\nThere are checks and balances, but they're not nearly as robust as you seem to think. They can be dismantled or overcome, as they have been in many other countries.",
"Do you honestly think that's the same thing?",
"Just like we need to see pictures of Trump and Hitler's face plastered on a sign",
"Find me a CNN headline like this about someone else, prior to the rise of Trump.\n\nhttp://cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz/cache/1060x600-e113c7dce5e3a91420ef816237d42b18.jpg\n\n",
"The teachers I had usually went by \"My way or the highway\"",
"The Nazi party wanted a national industry, education, and health care system. They were Socialists.",
"Sure, just like weak circumstantial evidence about the president being involved with Russia doesn't make them true, I'm guessing you're not calling out that camp though.",
"While I agree it's silly and just weakens the argument, the devil's advocate in me says Hitler started the same way. Having the Nazi party act as the victim and oppressor at the same time, constantly gaslighting citizens by questioning the genuineness of news, and having an irrational hate for certain people. Sound familiar?\n\nWith that said, there are two big reasons why it's silly and is irrational to compare them. A. Trump isn't smart enough to actually manage a fascist regime and his \"investors\" would never be able to micromanage something like that. And B. the right/altright way of life is fleeting. People are becoming more intolerant to racism with new ideas being embraced and most Millenials that are right/altright are either following their parent's footsteps or are trolls that don't matter past the internet and would never effect anything in politics.",
"What has he done to relate him to Hitler? Don't tell me \"oh he said this and that.\" Tell me some legislation he has done to relate him directly to hitler",
"Half life 3 has three words. Confirmed has an \"i\" in it. What else has 3 and an eye? Illuminati confirmed.",
"Fuck Stalin. I don’t sympathize with tankies.\n\nI have no delusions of being especially smart, I think I’m about average.",
"Yeah I see what you’re saying. I’m speaking more generally about comparing Trump to Hitler when people say things like “Trump IS the new Hitler.” ",
"I didn't imply he was a mastermind. You don't need to be a genius to be dangerous.",
"Shame, it's your [loss](http://knowyourmeme.com/news/heres-to-loss-the-internets-greatest-meme) I suppose.",
"Except Nagasaki and Hiroshima were manufacturing plants for the weapons of war that commit the acts you're railing against.\n\nYour \"All killing is equally bad and nuance doesn't exist\" stance is ludicrous. If you can't fathom why torture is worse than quick killing then you're a goddamn fool.",
"The point that poster was making is that you provided no evidence that the nazis were socialist except their name, the evidence you gave was insufficient.",
"> I don't think those post would even qualify as speech.\n> \n\nRe-read what you wrote and then consider if you're qualified to judge someone's literacy.",
"Generally because the Russian Bots and Trump supporters made it that way. I know that's going to get alot of people's panties in a twist but that's what I dealt with in this sub and worldnews. Good discussion with facts and sources we're drowned out by people screeching about Muslims and sucking Putin's dick. There was a concentrated effort by one side to end discussions and it wasn't the Democrats. Seeing how the Democrats are still having source based discussions and are willing to tackle their own problems like the DNC or Al Franken.\n\nGoing to Conservative subs just shows them burying their head in the sand and ignoring their own problems. Instead all I read on those subs is how they're the misunderstood victims while circle jerking each other. Even this post is a good example, with the anti-Trump crowd providing sources while the pro-Trump people just say fake news and bitch. \n\nYou're right though, that discussion based Reddit is long gone. I miss the days when a sourced post would get more upvotes than a random rant. Maybe after Trump is gone we can return to that.",
"Just like the giant Russian boogyman rigging the election. Giant lie.",
"I mean it literally never happened the way you claim it did. Is that hard to process? If CNN released leaked emails that contained false information they would have been legally accountable for slander/libel. Since they couldn't verify the source of the emails, they can't legally release them on the air. \n\nYou either get this from FoxNews or a *worse, less credible source of information*. This isn't something that the rest of us have to guess at. We know where your misinformation comes from. Your particular brand of misinformation is only available from a small selection of extremely biased outlets. And you accuse me of being in an echo chamber? That's quite hilarious.\n \nMeToo has nothing to do with Bill Clinton. Now you are just grasping at straws. Your obsession with the Clintons is telling. \n",
"[Link too](http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8) ",
"It would be small. The only time they were critical of him is when he was running for the Presidency. Just look at Megan Kelly. She ruined her career essentially going after Trump. It's unfortunate but it is what it is.",
"There's many MANY times MULTIPLE websites and news sources have been exposed. Recently? Look at the CNN coverage of the \"koi fish feeding\" incident. \n\nYou've got to be brainwashed or delusional to believe that the news is imfailable and 100% unbiased represented the news without smearing the truth. ",
"Pretty sure my granny isn't going to be cutting off anyones head anytime soon. You are talking about the pitfalls of organised religion vs individual belief which is very different. You'd never know what she believes because it's no-ones business but hers. \n\nI think at the age of 80 she's earned the right to believe whatever she wants as long as it's harming no-one. She can think that when she dies she will awake in middle earth for all the difference it makes day to day. I'm not going to start debating with her over whether or not she will see her mother again, it's pointless and will only cause her hurt. It's a win/win for her because her belief is genuine. ",
"A comparison can be made between any two objects. In this case, it's world leaders who have similar tactics in a similar area. You have to see that there is a grey area between \"they are exactly the same person\" and \"the only comparison is that they are both humans\".",
"How about we just don't trust either?",
"Perhaps my American is showing but what Trump is doing seems different because where he is doing it and what he is doing it to. He is doing this to American ideals laid out in our Constitution which is something that is generally treated like a sacred text here. ",
"An ex-wife would never lie. ",
"The problem is „the media“ is not one person, entity, or one mastermind. If you disagree with one article, one author or even an editor, please criticize, debate and scream. But, because one article or option you disprove of, don’t blame everyone. It is worrisome when people start to run around and just blame everything and everyone with general statements „the press is wrong “. Be clear who exactly you mean and what the problem is.\n",
"Comparisons can be made anywhere. Some can compare Bernie to any Communist and some his quotes can even be compared to Josef Stalin. However, that doesn't mean it is true. ",
"Uh huh.\n\nDid [any major media publication](https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/09/kathy-griffin-tyler-shields-donald-trump-print-offers) or [federally-funded theatre company](https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2017/06/13/the-new-york-shakespeare-festival-received-30-million-in-government-grants-since-2009/) stage Obama being killed? I challenge you to find me a single example.",
"That's a fantastic argument",
"What? They came in illegally but it’s somehow legal to stay here? We’re still talking about illegal immigrants right? Help me understand how you came to this conclusion, it makes zero sense",
"Lol\n\nI'd like to introduce you to my friend reality.",
"Cool story. Pretending their name *does* makes you look like an idiot.",
"Congratulations, you’ve just described T_D.",
"I have been a long time subscriber to r/pics and I usually looked through it for memes, doggos, cattos, the occasional Otter pictures, the city views, but mainly I used this sub for the pets. Like honestly fuck you r/pics we don’t care! SHOW US YOUR PETS. I don’t fucking care if President Trump makes you cry on a daily basis, SHOW ME YOUR PETS. SHOW ME YOUR DOGGOS. \n\nUnsubscribed!",
"Looks like you triggered the Donald",
"Agents of the Stalinist regime were seen wearing rings on their left ring finger. Ergo this sign bearer is a murderous Stalinist. \n\nLogic.",
"I think LSC has become too radical, there are too many tankies and authoritarians there.\n\nIf I were to look at the content on /r/FULLCOMMUNISM I’d also find it abhorrent.",
"Who says I trust either by default?\n\nIf someone has something to gain from misinformation they better have proof that they are right.",
"The media outlets he calls \"fake news\" report unsubstantiated -- and sometimes verifiably false -- stories as if they were truths, and write headlines (knowing that most people don't read the body of the article) that state the opposite of what is being reported. What would you call that?",
"Hitler worked with the capitalists.",
"Yup. That was the goal. You got it.",
"They needed 60 votes and have 51 seats, so you are wrong.",
"No I’m just saying that doesn’t look like his stance. If we’re really only comparing first years then his has actually been pretty damn good ",
"He was the one that made the claim that the meddling was a hoax. He's the one that needs to prove that.",
"Using your logic anyone can be compared to anyone because they both breathe air. Noted.\n\nHitler killed hundreds of thousands of people. And used fucking gas chambers and firing squads to do so, brutal, brutal methods of trying to eradicate a whole section of people and history.\n\nPlease please tell me you understand this? Just because they both blow their noses doesn’t mean they should be compared, you are completely insulting the people who’s ancestors were murdered mindlessly by comparing the two. By comparing these two you are either making light of the horrible things Hitler had done or just completely falsifying and worsening things DT has done. I’ve yet to hear of him cranking up a gas chamber but maybe you know something I don’t?",
"How is a disbelief in gods different from a lack of belief in gods?\n\nI definitely get how it frames them quite differently, but I don't know if that means they're much different in practice. Hence my asking. ",
"Is that what trolling means to you?",
"Exactly",
"\"European culture\" is not a thing. It's an appeal to extremists and nutjobs. You're also shifting the goalposts. You can whine all you want about transgendered people's rights to use different bathrooms while I'm concerned about dictatorial regimes obtaining global dominance.",
"Lol you dirty alien",
"Would you mind quoting the part of the article that says the coining of the term \"Fake News\" was an attack against Trump by those on the left?\n\nThe only stuff I'm finding in the article and wiki page is saying that social media users were creating satirical posts with falsehoods about Trump and Clinton before the election the users didn't expect to go viral, and some reporters regretted harshly worded reporting about Trump because they felt they caused more people on the fence to vote for him.",
"Which one? That she acted against the good and will of the population? Or what do you mean. Of course dead is hyperbole, we are not in Erdogan levels, its just in a very poor state. ",
"Challenge accepted. \n \nhttp://www.startribune.com/trump-themed-julius-caesar-is-talk-of-theater-world-unlike-2012-obama-version-in-twin-cities/427990033/ \n \nI mean, that took almost 30 seconds. Should I find a *second example*? \n \nThanks for the lay-up. \n \nedit: I'll do you one better... here's a second example. https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/9/25/16346588/kingsman-movies-populist-right \n \nEducate yourself.",
"What about White Monday?\n\nAlso, I made a mistake. World War II was the largest war in terms of how deadly. 60 million dead over six years, and 6 million of those just from the Holocaust.",
"Fine, here are sources. If you can't respond with something substantive next time, then just save everyone's time, and shut up.\n\n> we just came really close to electing a guy who says homosexuality should be illegal and we should get rid of amendments after the 10th.\n\n[Roy Moore thinks homosexuality should be illegal](http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/21/politics/kfile-roy-moore-homosexuality-illegal/index.html)\n\n[Roy Moore would get rid of all amendments after the 10th.](http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politics/kfile-roy-moore-aroostook-watchmen/index.html)\n\n>Also taking rights away from gay people is in the GOP platform, page 11.\n\n[Official GOP Platform, check out page 11](https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/documents/DRAFT_12_FINAL[1]-ben_1468872234.pdf)\n\n>Also republicans this year just elected a guy to congress who literally assaulted a reporter for asking a policy question.\n\n[You didn't hear about this one? While republicans were up in arms crying about some nazi murderers getting beat up, they elected this guy to the U.S. Congress. Funny how selective their outrage is when it comes to political violence.](http://thehill.com/homenews/house/355015-judge-releases-montana-republicans-mugshot)\n\n>American citizens have repeatedly been detained for no good reason and interrogated as to their religious beliefs.\n\n[One of them was even detained and interrogated as to their religious beliefs, so they decided to go before Congress to tell them about it, and were detained again on the way](https://www.thenation.com/article/even-muslim-american-citizens-have-been-caught-in-the-net-of-trumps-travel-ban/)\n\n>Also Trump was caught using Project Veritas to manufacture fake news to discredit Roy Moore accusers.\n\n[Trump donated to Project Veritas, who then paid a fake Roy Moore accuser to try to fool the Washington Post, in order to discredit the other Roy Moore accusers. The GOP manufactures fake news, just like Kim Jong Un.](http://www.newsweek.com/trump-donated-project-veritas-organization-tried-trick-washington-post-723888)\n",
"Damn whataboutism at its finest!",
"“Conspiracies aren’t real unless my side isn’t in power.”",
"He said they shouldn’t be allowed to say things that are knowingly false. Oh the horror! ",
"That's only communist in name (like North Korea or to a lesser extent, china). It's a military dictatorship (fascist).\n\nMind you aside from all the executions of dissidents, it's not as bad as NK, which isn't hard as NK has literal concentration camps.\n\nThey were bankrolled by the Soviets until they collapsed, then Venezuela (and China) until Venezuela collapsed.\n\nNow they're trying to transition to capitalism a la China to prevent what happened to all the other socialist countries.\n\nHere is a useful excerpt with some more current information: \nSource: http://harvardpolitics.com/world/understanding-cubas-future/ \n\n> Cuba needs a leader dedicated not just to an ideological set of beliefs, but also to the promotion of a robust and stable economy. While Fidel’s egalitarian efforts led to improved healthcare and education, Cuba’s economy suffered enormously under his watch. Beginning in the early 1960’s, Cuba was bankrolled by the Soviet Union due to the island’s extremely important status as an ideological base in a hemisphere of American dominance. With an economy dependent upon Soviet support, the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1989 also resulted in a collapse of Cuba’s economy. Without a formidable ally to ensure their economic security, and without a proper plan to jumpstart the economy, Cuba has been on life support throughout the past quarter century. The Cuban people are plagued with a lack of basic necessities, including food, medicine, and clothing. These hardships are only amplified in supermarkets and grocery stores, where citizens must wait in lines for hours to get basic food items. The decline of the country’s once vibrant agricultural industry has exacerbated this problem, and the island now imports more than 70 to 80 percent of its food.\n\n>In an effort to rectify the damage done by the Soviet collapse, Cuba has once again leveraged its position to depend on other nations—this time China and Venezuela. Neither of those countries have been able to solve the deeper problems facing Cuba. Venezuela itself faces crisis as falling oil prices have derailed its economy.\n\n>Oddly enough, the plan of action Cuba needs to implement now is nearly identical to the one proposed in late 1960 by Adolf Berle, an American diplomat and important member of President Franklin Roosevelt’s “Brain Trust”. Just like today, Berle acknowledged that “preachments about…private enterprise and investment and the usefulness of foreign capital [are]…a little silly,” and that while both private and foreign investment has helped, it alone cannot rescue Cuba from economic oblivion. In order to sustain any economic future, Cuba now has to have its own government emphasize the importance of technology. Berle defended this policy when he wrote that “chief capital developments have to be carried on…by public enterprise.”",
"I'm not arguing Trump isn't a buffoon or a scumbag, but his positions before the stress of the world's most important job crushed his cognitive functions (probably because he's absurdly out of shape and no spring chicken) were vastly different than now. He was telling General Motors that moving plants overseas would incur a tax so high no one would buy their cars. He talked about forcing a ceiling on hedge fund manager salaries. Meanwhile Hillary was busy attacking Bernie and his supporters past the primary and into the general election! Spending time, money and effort to devalue his base and ideas instead of courting them; this single handedly might have been the dumbest move ever made by a presidential candidate in history. In her mind, obviously, party unity came second to her ego. Combined with [videos of her blatantly lying for 13 minutes straight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI), laughing about extrajudicially killing a head of state and leaving that country in shambles fought over by extremist groups and warlords, and her policy of calling people that didn't want to vote for her sexist, the choice wasn't as clear cut as many on the left would like to believe.\n\nBut my main point is that the left has learned nothing from the past election. Nothing. They double down that Hillary was an amazing candidate that didn't put forth the worst blunders in politics seen in generations, that identity politics didn't alienate a massive portion of the voting block, and that the neoliberal platform of corporation worship, such as Hillary all but sucking off the TPP's backers on television before she gasped and realized perhaps the American public doesn't like the wholesale destruction of the middle class for the benefit of the top 1%, and only giving lip service to progressive ideals is somehow a tenable political stance.",
"Yah drunken mistake, i'm such a dumb American, fuck me right! BTW I love \"Zee Germans\" (snatch)!!",
"No he doesn’t ",
"Tell me what's wrong with that headline? You're trying to say that the media is biased against Trump for using the chyron to factcheck a direct, easily verifiable lie Trump made as part of an extended history of similar lies.\n\nHell, that chyron was part of them broadcasting his rallies unedited in full. That's not anti-Trump bias.",
">First, communism was active much longer in different populations.\n\nAll of them somehow ending up as dictatorships that violated countless human rights.\n\n>Second, the Nazis had plans to kill off 20M to 30M Slavs by starvation. They just didn't get the chance to implement it. \n\nYou're right. Can't compare both. The Nazis attempted to commit genocide by starving people to death. [The Soviets were successful.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor)\n\n>You can't use body count as a yard stick.\n\nA guy who killed five people is definitely worse than a guy who killed three people, even though both are bad guys.",
"Ah thanks just started learning German and was wondering about that",
"It's partly idiocy, and it's partly cultism.\n\nThe number of times I've heard people try to claim that a comparison isn't valid because the things being compared aren't literally identical makes me wonder whether schools are actually doing anything these days.",
"I mentioned further below that I don't agree with Arpaio's actions that I have heard of. From what I've heard, I don't agree with Trump pardoning him either. That being said, illegal residents are not protected by the constitution. ",
"Good thing nobody here suggested that then",
"DRUMPFFFFFFFFF",
"For all you know I could be a nazi historian. We all have seen the dozens of posts quoting Hitler and Trump side by side saying the exact same racist stuff. I'm sorry, I don't have a 30 pages analysis to support my claims, but I haven't seen the same happening with any previous president.\n\nThese things are just used to support the claim that Trump is racist. I think it would be a stretch to interpret it with any more depth.",
"Trump will be gone in due time. Be patient and enjoy your life.",
"Haha you keep digging yourself into a pit. On top of all these FACTS from reliable sources that prove he was a fucking terrible president, who aside from race altogether, he is also a war criminal. The sorry you can't come to terms with that. Haven't proven me otherwise with facts. I just your bullshit. ",
"\nI’d like to assume you are a smart person, and you are simply muddying the waters to further your \nTrump agenda. \n \nIf not, please read:\n \nYou realize fake news is an actual thing. That is what the Obama NYT article you linked to was. Straight up misleading unsubstantiated links posing as news to inflame and destroy reality. The NYT article has a link to a story about the very real spread of very fake news on Facebook that was passed around as total fact... mostly by Trump supporters. From websites that were literally kremlin run.\n \nThe CNN link that you posted. Trumps first real day going against the “fake news”... as an open assault on freedom of press and our main stream media. None of which classify as fake news. \n \nTwo totally different things. ",
"The Nazi party was not socialist. If you pay attention his Nazi supporters all use identity politics. He arguably uses white identity politics, although not in the most overt ways because they would be politically impossible. Trump ran on a nationalist platform while using populism, which is what Hitler did in his what you call \"collectivism\".",
"So does most of the American right wing. Get an actual argument.",
"I disagree. I would argue (based on the timeline that I posted) that at best you could pin his rise as beginning in 1925 when he reformed the Nazi party after leaving prison. But even then it was a fringe party. I would feel more accurate saying he first took some real power in '28 when the Nazi party became the official opposition. \n\nAll that being said, when we refer to being \"in power\" for the purposes of comparing Hitler's time in power to Trump's time in power then IMO we're talking about their time as leaders of their respective nations and that's where I feel Hitler's 1st year as Chancellor is the most relevant comparison to Trump's first year as president. ",
"and as I said, The other side would have used that statement as their truth...\n\nGermany did have claims on Danzig (according to them that is, but mostly due to it being historically Prussian territory) since it was their territory prior to WW1's ending, if you consider that they despised the ending of that war and the treaty of Versailles, in their heads it was still theirs, constructing the railroad was Hitler's initial advance to attempt and take that territory later on with an excuse that would appease foreign observers",
"Instead of attacking strawmen, learn how to read.",
"That chart is shit. [Here it is fixed.](http://eclectecon.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ecbb69a883301bb096e161b970d-pi)",
">You will probably dig through my post history to dismiss what I'm saying too.\n\n>You post in The_Donald so I already know that's bullshit\n\nThere it is. Hook, line, and sinker.",
"I just filter \"trump\" stuff like this occasionally gets through unfortunately, I don't give a flying fuck about US politics, I'm not American and it has zero influence on my life yet it's on here constantly.\n\nInb4: American website, flag on the moon, freedom etc. ",
"I didn't say anything is wrong with the headline. I asked you to find me another headline like that.\n\nIf you cannot find another headline like that, then we have evidence that there has been a change in CNN's reporting style, correct?",
"Oh I have plenty. But questions like yours are usually followed up by \"lol you think X is a worthy news organization\".\n\nThe good news is that it's not hard to find information about Russian meddling. A Google search would do or head over to r/russialago to learn more.",
"Ask yourself whether everyone against you is in some kind of collective conspiracy, or you're just wrong.",
"Trump lost the popular vote. Without Russia and vote suppression he wouldn't have stood a chance, but that will be fixed. I guess you think all the protests yesterday was the fucking Rose Parade. You're in the monority, sport. \n \nI only regret that unrepentant dumbasses who voted for him will still benefit when we turn things around, but oh well.",
"Ha. Are you saying American right wingers are pro-Socialism? ",
"You sure don't type like someone who grew up in an English-speaking country. Are you Russian or just stupid?",
"How long did it take him to give that half-hearted disavowal of anti-Semitic, white supremacist, David Duke again? News organizations merely reported that Trump was unwilling to say anything bad about white supremacists. ",
"The more things change...",
"I did. If you want support for the claims I made backing it up, try Google, or literally any of a million odd other posts on Reddit.",
"Adding a spin is where it gives bias. I’ll give CNN credit that it doesn’t (normally) misreport facts within articles, but it will assert untruths by tone, especially in headlines. Not going to go digging right now for a specific example but it will go something like this. Trump will say “a higher percentage of black Americans are in prison than any other race” - verified fact, in isolation it cannot be deemed racist unless you want to claim facts are racist. Now, CNN will make a headline “Trump derides blacks, calling them criminals” and even if the context is that he is calling for police reform to be less racist or something they will continue to use phrasing that makes it sound like he is saying blacks are trash. \n\nRight leaning media can be guilty of the same thing but most mainstream publications are liberal. The onslaught of sensational and sometimes fictional reporting so blatantly attacking (not simply conveying news) a sitting president is straight up an assault to democracy. A president should absolutely defend himself against slander, whether it’s trump, Obama, or anyone else.",
"When did I say news isn't biased? Why would you cite a puff piece as fake news? And I never said the news was incapable of getting things wrong or changing the facts to fit.",
"Funny how the comments completely misrepresent the upvote count. Over 30k in 5 hours, however, looking at the comments, you wouldn't think this post would have ever been successful. It just seems like many of these political posts are upvoted by people who aren't willing to take part in conversation or are too focused on agenda to think rationally and won't comment on how stupid the comparison between an orange and a genocidal maniac is. ",
"No, that's wrong. I immigrated to the US 5 years ago, and there's a big difference betwern wanting to be American and severing all ties to your old country.\n\nI never even liked that place, but I grew up there. I still have friends and family there. It's going to be part of me, my background, and my mentality no matter what I do.\n\nIt's not like pre-70s immigrants abandoned all ties to their old country or their ethnicity: you're just projecting backwards.",
"Absolutely it is.\n\nHe made the accusation that the Russia story was fake. I'm still waiting on his sources.",
">But in a zero sum choice between her and Donald? I'd choose her every time without hesitation.\n\nFucking THIIIIIIIIS! You've so eloquently summed up my frustration with voter susceptibility to manipulation through fake news sources and ongoing Russian social media campaigns.\n\nTrump was not even remotely close to human decency material let alone presidential material. Hillary had decades of experience, tact, a clear and concise platform, and the connections to possess proper deal making abilities and get shit done. \n\nSure, she had a few scandals unearthed, but this is over, again, decades of experience. Politicians play in a pretty muddy playground. No one is exempt from at least connections to one scandal or another. \n\nVoters and many (right wing) media repeatedly drew and continue to draw false equivalency between Hillary and Trump, as if they were making the choice of a lesser of two evils. NO! Clinton had a few POLITICAL scandals that *were addressed* over the course of her POLITICAL career and campaign. You can say what you want about the details of those proceedings, but **THERE WERE PROCEEDINGS**! \n\nTrump has multiple BUSINESS, PERSONAL, and SEXUAL scandals that CONTINUE to remain unaddressed by his supporters, and it's infuriating that Clinton was held to such an extreme double standard!",
"Its literally fucking everywhere.\n\nI go to youtube videos that have nothing to do with politics and someone bitches about Trump in the comments.\n\nI go to other game forums, both on reddit and offsite and people still shoehorn their bitching about Trump in unrelated topics.\n\nI play various games and someone still manages to start bitching about Trump in chat.\n\nI turn on the news and there's a segment with people bitching about Trump.\n\nI check the world news on reddit and people are bitching about Trump.\n\nI check the Canadian news on reddit and people still fucking bitch about Trump.\n\nI have some 50 odd subreddits about Trump blocked but people still keep forcing their bitching about Trump into new subreddits that blatantly get upvoted to the front page by bots or they force it into subreddits like this.\n\nThe hysterical Trump derangement is fucking insufferable at this point.",
"What are you talking about? What on this list is on par with New York Times, wapo, and cnn (the news that Trump considers fake news)? https://i.imgur.com/YnmxQUq.jpg ",
"They were for nationalized industry, health care, and education. ",
"http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cadbortion-loss-edits\n\nLook at the people, the roman numerals are roughly in the same shape.",
"Yes, except in this case it's more like an orange and an apple. ;)\n\nThere's a lot more similarities than shape.",
"Nothing about \"immigrants\" where they are including the children of immigrants?",
"So by your comparison should we all never hope for more than a third world country? Should they be the standard? If you ignore all problems because some have it worse then we could all degrade to that worse rather than striving for better.",
"I heat hitler and trump both required water to survive. ",
"You're borderline illiterate, i'm not really going to go into this anymore but the hillary quote is no fact and all you're doing is deflecting from that and also..\n\n> who aside from race altogether\n\nWhat now? Why would race ever be a thing?",
"Obama used it the first year of his second term, so it is correct that Trump still could. As it stands, Trump hasn’t used it. So the Hitler comparisons are just idiotic. Not to mention Hitler actually murdered journalists, not just imprisoned them.",
"I don't get this... if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.\n\nThis guy walks like a right-winger, talks like a right-winger, but he leans left? okay then, if you say so.\n\nI used evidence to counter a point, I did not dismiss it willy nilly.",
"Those posts are not organically upvoted to the front page. Some of them are from subs with only a few thousand subscribers. When reddit changed their algorithm to hide TD, they fucked up the site imo. Now the top of all is a bunch of niche porn and other crap. Its supposed to be the front page of the internet, not a bunch of shit from momsgonewild or whatever.",
"That's not how what happened. And Rachel Maddow is very careful about doing research before having the show. It's very informative and if the only thing that you can think of is \"making a fuzz\" then you're failing at portraying the false equivalency.",
"You are defending shitposts because you agree with the content. ",
"It’s very skeptical. ",
"\"You cannot criticize the media or you're just as bad as Hitler.\"",
"Well it doesn't taste that great, and it probably isn't healthy, but it does sustain me 😂",
"What does that even mean?",
"Literacy? That subreddit felt like an incoherent subreddit simulator where random phrases containing \"shillary\", \"email\" and \"cuck\" got randomly thrown together.",
"no problem. :) Even if you don't directly engage with those people, why push potential friends and allies into their arms? \n\nExample: Many people in Germany were angered by the way the refugee crisis was handled, including me. I watched the value of my land and house drop by 20% after a refugee center was opened up nearby. Had anyone bothered to ask, I would have supported it. However, no one did ask, but I found that I was bearing a financial burden so that certain politicians looked good. This did not make me a happy camper.\n\nSome of us have hard questions about how it was handled, and quite often we get accused of being racist merely because we wonder whether the community can handle the sudden unexpected influx of refugees. On top of that, the media lied their asses off about the nature of the refugees.\n\nDespite all that I *still* support taking in war refugees, because I don't even want to think about the horrors they are running from. \n\nNow imagine someone still on the fence about the wisdom of taking in refugees, because they feel that the national cultures just don't fit. If you address their concerns, explain the human cost, and find ways to integrate the refugees into the German culture, you might just win at least some of these people over. Explain that the national prestige of Germany will rise through the humanitarian efforts and so on. You won't convince everyone, but you will convince some.\n\nHowever, if you just call everyone a racist for having legitimate questions or even if their politics is quite different than yours...well, that's how you get AfD wins across Germany. As an added bonus, by weakening the stigma of racism by applying it everywhere, you make it more likely that the AfD gains are permanent.",
"They published a rumor. That's not journalism. And lots of real news outlets called them out on it:\n\nhttps://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/why-did-buzzfeed-publish-the-trump-dossier/512771/\n\nhttp://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/tv/z-on-tv-blog/bal-buzzfeed--trump-dossier-journalism-debased-20170111-story.html\n\n",
"So you're saying: the picture is as informative as a comparison between Trump and Nebuchadnezzar, and should be downvoted into oblivion?",
">people never bother to apply discretion, including extremely trustworthy institutions like the New York Times in that \"legacy media\" circlejerk.\n\nMaybe because the NYT isn't nearly as trustworthy as you think they are.\n\n>They need to learn the difference between opinion articles and news.\n\nMedia outlets need to stop hiding behind \"opinion\" sections in order to justify printing falsehoods.\n\n>People like Trump -- and maybe you -- take the realization that news media is not perfect fact and turn around and go to partisan or completely unqualified sources like random YouTubers, Breitbart, Infowars, and similar sources.\n\nI'm not. Personally, I try to gather as much information as possible, preferably from primary sources. I'd rather look at data myself, than someone's interpretation of data. I'd rather look at video of some event for myself than someone's interpretation of it. I'd rather read some 50 page government report than someone's interpretation of it. I'd rather read a piece of legislation for myself than someone's interpretation of it. ",
"Wtf. Fox is most definitely fake news. Not saying trump is completely right, at all... But comparing him to Hitler isn't cool ",
"True enough. It’s a tough time to go against the grain.",
"Goodbye r/pics. It was alright knowing ya I guess. This US politics frenzy is too much for me at this point. ",
"Telling them to blame their parents really doesn't solve anything. It just lets you wash your hands of any responsibility while still grandstanding about ruining someone else's life",
"It's something nazis did say. The comparison is intended to warn that using the term *for political reasons* is unacceptable and deeply concerning.",
"Absolutely, but we're talking about bias here. No other president or candidate has lied as often and blatantly as Trump has. It's not bias. Fact checking is not bias.",
"Touché.\n\nStill, Minnesota amateur theatre? Not exactly Shakespeare in the Park. How many people saw it, three people and a janitor?",
"That might be valid if he were someone with less public influence, but he's the commander in chief. It matters what he says.\n\nComparing two leaders' strategies isn't equating their goals, it's comparing their strategies.",
"That’s a bit difficult, given he didn’t manage to pass any legislation through Congress yet, except for the tax reform ;)",
"Odd that the Dow changes trajectory the day Trump won... ",
"Well, I for one haven't seen a sign with \"Fake News\" and \"Lügenpresse\" before, so that's new a least.",
"Or maybe people's faith in the media was already on a downward trend, and that is one of the main reasons he was elected.",
"You realize that every President attacks the media when they disagree with it, or if the media has something negative to say about them. Like I said, Hillary even attacked the media plenty of times during the campaign. \n\nAccording to your logic, simply attempting to discredit the media makes you comparable to Hitler. Using that logic, basically every politician is comparable. \n\nYou're being completely intellectually dishonest. You really think that trying to minimize the negative impact or power the media has over you is equivalent to what Hitler did? That's absolutely ridiculous. \n\n",
"I was under the impression that the fake sires just aggregated content from other sources automatically.",
"Honestly, that’s much better. I disagree with you but I’m glad to hear this. ",
"> here's some sources about fairly tame scandals that I'm going to use to pretend like we're living in Nazi Germany and the sky is falling.\n\nThanks crazy person.",
"The allies included the greatest evil superpower the world has ever known...",
"So then he’s not comparable, is what you’re saying. ",
"Tell that to people waving confederate flags",
">I'm not sure how the atrocities of the Japanese troops somehow makes killing the civilian residents of Tokyo less bad.\n\nIf it helps ending the conflict earlier, in a total war scenario, saving not only US soldiers (in the case of Japan), but also chinese and korean soldiers and civilians, among others, disregarding civilian casualties at one point becomes even morally imperative. Frankly, if you want to get into hypotheticals: How many jews in camps awaiting the chamber would it take for you to accept 1 million civilians dying in raids? How many GIs at the Omaha beach? If you tell me there is no number, then you are insane.\n\n>People don't become OK to kill because of actions of their military or government.\n\nThat's a convenient distinction that does not at all apply to totalitarian states.",
"Go back to school sweetie. If you think the US isn't capitalist then I wouldn't trust you with even counting two coins. Also you use cuck unironically, looking at your comment history, so you can drown in dog shite.",
"If America was still in the world cup or was playing against Germany, then I would consider that somewhat un-American. That being said, the World cup is a closed system and if America is no longer in it, it would no longer be un-American to cheer for Germany. The issue is not waving other nations flags, it is waving them in priority over the American flag. Because flags are symbols for nations and this symbolizes a commitment to another country over America.\n\nThat being said, it was an example of prioritizing other nations over America. Do I actually thinking waving another nations flag should be punishable? Of course not. But it is a pretty good way to get an idea of the nationality mindset of someone. Someone who considers themselves a foreign national first is less likely to prioritize the betterment of America",
"The Podesta emails clearly spell out that the DNC infiltrated and “turned” BI, they are basically a PR wing of the DNC at this point. ",
"None of it warranted. Socialists are butt hurt that they have to work for a living now. ",
"Why is it surprising? The man is extremely under qualified. But anyone who screams about fearing our country and our rights are in jeopardy under this clown is biased? I just don't understand why people are quick to call the whole sub shit when there's no requirement to enter r/politics with a blindfold. If you just blindly follow things you subscribe to, I guess you'll be quick to let a minority spoil an entirety. That's like calling everything coming from CNN fake news, which is just ridiculous. It's difficult for a news org being directly called out by our president to not seem biased when they run any kind of story about how objectively terrible Trump is at his job. You have to be smart enough to know when sources or stories sound like bull shit. Never follow something without questioning things. That's why r/politics is honestly great for late breaking political information. It's not all sensational bs like you'd assume based off the comments I see.",
"The German Reich between 1933 and 1945 was not part of the allies.",
"I don't disagree that they will spin, but to proclaim that their spin is always in one direction is just confirmation bias in action. I would want actual examples of them doing that, because your example is extreme.\n \n> most mainstream publications are liberal \n \nThis must one of the sadder myths perpetuated today. St. Reagan did a good job selling that lie, lol. When people don't agree where the \"center\" is, then they obviously won't have a good understanding of left vs right bias. The stance of people that don't agree on facts is that the people with those facts are biased against them. This is blatantly incorrect, and the faulty assumption that lies beneath the \"liberal media\" conspiracy.",
"\"ya been bamboozled\"\n\n-Boxy Brown",
"> can you point to me one thing he’s done that’s actually against the constitutional checks and balances?\n\nEngaged in a persistent effort to [discredit them](https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/951147190185013248).",
"Lmfao. Tell me more about all of the constitutional protections of yours that Trump has undermined.\n\nHow about the insanely long list of unconstitutional violations and dictatorial actions of the last president? You loved him I’m sure, so what’s the big difference here? Wouldn’t happen to be that ideological “R” next to his name, huh?",
"The irony is so thick. We **do** have a corrupt news media that skews facts and sensationalizes every story. Are you fucking retards saying Hitler wasn't exactly wrong? ",
"Gayness against tyranny and bad hairstyles. It's the new anti-fash.",
"\"Completely alters news and portrays it completely differently in an attempt to lie to the American people\" \nTHATS NOT FAKE NEWS ITS JUST A PUFF PIECE! \nAre you serious? ",
"He doesn't. He criticizes what they put out there. TIL Presidents don't have first amendment rights. ",
"There it is. \"you must be a Russian troll because you disagree with me\". Typical pathetic left. go fuck yourself ",
"Obama criticized Fox News. Looks like Obama was Hitler. ",
"As a jew ... trump 2020",
"They attacked a black SPD PM. Guess how they \"criticized\" him. They didn't use his political opinions and offered alternating views for sure.",
"I'm sorry but I couldn't care less about what he says. Only what he does matters because, as you said, he's the commander in chief. And right now, our economy is booming, illegal immigration is down, and Apple just brought 300-350 billion dollars back from over seas. But that doesn't matter because he called Haiti a shithole(he's not wrong). ",
"But do you know what ingredient is in Diet Coke?? I’ll tell you, water.",
"[Totally.](https://youtu.be/LJDgVlv55Uw)",
"Yea I don't agree with them doing that but it shouldn't be punishable just like waving a mexican flag shouldn't. I just don't think its American or in the interest of national cohesion.",
"It was reported by those extreme entities AS NEWS. Thousands of people received and digested that falsified information AS NEWS. Or did you forget the gunman who strode into the pizza place, demanding access to a basement that didn't exist?",
"No, it's because you type like someone who took a year of English in high school and has never spoken it out loud.",
">Maybe because the NYT isn't nearly as trustworthy as you think they are.\n\nEvidence and your alternatives.\n\n>Media outlets need to stop hiding behind \"opinion\" sections in order to justify printing falsehoods.\n\nThey're not. You need to learn to differentiate between subjective opinions and objective facts.\n\n>I'm not. Personally, I try to gather as much information as possible, preferably from primary sources. I'd rather look at data myself, than someone's interpretation of data. I'd rather look at video of some event for myself than someone's interpretation of it. I'd rather read some 50 page government report than someone's interpretation of it. I'd rather read a piece of legislation for myself than someone's interpretation of it.\n\nThe news is a hell of a lot more complicated than that. That's a good start but you're honestly overstating how much information you actually consume and judge if you do that. Also, you're not an expert in a lot of things. You're going to do a lot of affirming your own biases.",
"> All of them somehow ending up as dictatorships that violated countless human rights.\n\nTrue, except for the \"countless\" hyperbole.\n\n> A guy who killed five people is definitely worse than a guy who killed three people, even though both are bad guys.\n\nIf you think like that, I've got a few interesting bets for you. Besides, Stalin didn't kill anyone.",
"Hitler didn’t start off by being Hitler. He didn’t run on a platform of killing people. He seemed quite reasonable at first. Just wanted some law and order, thought Germany had a few too many immigrants, wished for old times when Germany was considered great. \n\nTrump might not become Hitler, but even if he is not his attacks on institutions, his blaming societal ills on immigrants, his discrediting science and media - that at least paves the way for a Hitler to emerge. ",
"Citizenship can take decades, depending on your country of origin and what specific naturalization process you fall under.",
"The triangle is one of the best areas you can live in! For liberal leaning people. I think Wake Forest is also good.\n\nThe family is in Charlotte",
"Remember when Trump ran on campaign promises of banning all Muslims, and [bringing back torture worse than waterboarding and killing noncombatant relatives of terrorists?](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/3/donald-trump-says-hed-force-us-military-commit-war/)\n\nWho would vote for that besides a neo-nazi or some other white supremacist?",
"Well, no actually that’s inaccurate. The original draft was denied and Trump negotiated a different deal, that’s EXACTLY how the checks and balances are suppose to work. The new one is currently instated.\n\n\nThe second one is unfounded, and the final isn’t even illegal. Obama did the same thing to conservatives, he just wasn’t as loud. In fact, Obama still does it, though it really doesn’t matter anymore. \n\nHitler was straight up defying the government in a real rebellion. People that equate Trump and Hitler must not know Trump and Hitler.\n\n",
"So you think having senior members of the elite Media CBS, CNN, NYT... at a strategy meeting before Hillary launched her campaign is an indication that they are non-partisan?",
"Immigrants who came illegally. I guess you people don't think laws should be followed. ",
"Yes",
"Have you actually seen the video where she showcases the trump tax returns? She hyped it up so much at the premise of finally being able to attack the president with something, but the ultimately dissapointed look in her face at seeing her little trouble is glorious. Yet again, I fail to see what kind of equivalency you’re saying I’m making here, since I am at no point defending Fox News or any other media outlet, I’m just contesting your claim that Rachel Maddow is some kind of exceptional journalism. ",
"\"visibly Jewish\"",
"Or maybe paid content gets the upvotes that they are paid for. ",
"DACA never had a pathway to citizenship. DACA DEFERRED ACTION FOR CHILDHOOD ARRIVALS. DEFERRED. ACTION. ",
"You can do the same thing for everyone, it’s misleading to imply he’s any closer than any other politician. There’s really not a huge difference, just a different party label",
"\"Hitler took a pragmatic position between the conservative and radical factions of the Nazi Party, accepting private property and allowing capitalist private enterprises to exist so long as they adhered to the goals of the Nazi state, but if a capitalist private enterprise resisted Nazi goals, he sought to destroy it.\" \n\nHe used the socialist name to get popular appeal and had issues with Jewish industry but that does not make him a socialist. Health care and education aren't socialist.",
"Thus implying they are knowingly publishing lies, thereby eroding the status of the free press, so when they criticize him people are less likely to believe it's true. Totally not self-serving and destructive to our country.\n\n/s",
"Nope because you're downplaying what Obama did. Typical lib apologist. ",
"I’m sorry? ",
"Trump ate breakfast just like Hitler did. We should be EXTREMELY concerned.",
"Lol it turns out doxxing people is against site rules, who knew? XD",
"Well, I'm sorry if my honest question insulted you. I can't really do much about that. I was assuming you were arguing in good faith and that you would offer me the same assumption. There's not much constructive debate to be had without that basis.\n\nAnd stop telling me to \"grow up.\" I guarantee you, one day you'll look back on all the times you told people to \"grow up\" and realise you were being the childish one by resorting to what is little more than an insult. Think about it.\n\n>IT IS STILL NOT FUCKING NORMAL OR OKAY TO BRAG ABOUT SEXUALLY ASSAULTING WOMEN. EVER. \n\nI fundamentally disagree with you here. I guarantee you that there are an uncountable number of groups of (mostly) men where these kinds of distasteful comments can be heard practically daily. Take a look at 4chan for Christ's sake. You think people on there making edgy comments aren't just doing it for the sake of being edgy?\n\nNow, you could argue that you wouldn't want anyone who makes those kinds of jokes or comments, even in the most private conversations, to be president of the US, but that's an entirely different claim to the one that Trump \"literally admitted to sexually assaulting women.\"\n\nI don't know your life experience, but I can tell you that in mine, I have had more than enough conversations with close mates that would not fly for a second in politer company, but that's kind of the point. And from what I know of most other similar groups it's the exact same deal there. \n\nI'm perfectly willing to believe you've never experienced that before in your life (especially if those around you are aware that you are not comfortable with such behaviour and so avoid it), but in that case to be quite frank you'll just have to trust me that it does happen all the time, and is in fact completely normal.",
"Are you a fucking Nazi???",
"I love how none of the Donald brigaders can actually make a point. Just a bunch of trolls. Absolutely incapable of having a point. You don't even have a cogent thought. Just a collection of the Donald memes",
"Hitler wasn’t elected, and was never close to having a majority of support! Educate yourself before comparing our President to a genocidal maniac",
"Good answer. +1",
"DAE TRUMP IS HITLER OWNED REKT",
">President Trump renewed his call for a federal libel law on Wednesday, saying people who are subject to false and defamatory accusations should have \"meaningful recourse\" in federal courts.\n\nThats not criticizing the right to free press",
"Great so we've found common ground. We agree there has been a change in the MSM since Trump, but you think it's justified.\n\nAs an example, can you find me where Trump said Japan should have nukes?",
"Are you suggesting security now is the same as it was before 9/11?",
"The death toll of the German Reich pales in comparison to the communist scourge. USSR was a part of the allies.",
"And they are both right. The media has been controlled since it's inception. ",
"Hitler didn't come to power on the back of genocide. There are definite similarities between Trump's behaviour in power and the early Nazi regime. ",
"What does any of that have to do with the picture?\n\nAnd it looks pretty childish to whine about downvotes, then proclaim that everyone who disagrees is a republican",
"You're forgiven.",
"Did Hitler put all industry in the Democratic control of the workers? No. In fact, he allowed capitalism to flourish in his country as long as it did not interfere with his goals or as long as it wasn't owned by Jews.",
"It's not a comparison of the two leaders' goals, it's a comparison of their strategies.\n\nMy biggest issue with this post is that its use of Hitler shifts discussion from authoritarianism to whether or not Trump wants to commit genocide.",
"None of these go towards what you’re suggesting. In order for Trump to be against constitutional checks and balances he would need to continue the actions after they’ve been struck down. You can’t say the travel ban is against checks and balances when the Supreme Court is deliberating it. \n\nAlso, trying to change the (libel) law is working within the system. It’s evidence to the contrary of what you’re trying to provide evidence for. ",
"Call me back when your sources cease to be unverified garbage. I can count well sourced right leaning websites on one hand (WSJ). 95% of the rest is crap. Breitbart's a popular shit rag.",
"That was the first example. I can find more. It's not a pissing contest lol, 40% of the people that saw it will be pissed no matter which way the bias swings. The point is that this is nothing new, and claiming that this \"would have been different if it was Obama\" is pure ignorance.",
"I don’t know why likening Hitler to Trump is so popular. Trump is nothing like Hitler. In my opinion Trump doesn’t deserve the position he’s in but it does such an injustice to those affected by WW2.\n\n",
"Well it's easy to use memes when people like you are the inspiration for creating them.",
"So now Africans are the “worst” in the world? r/whitepower is that way racist ass. ",
"In all fairness, Bush did start a war that lasted 17 years and counting. ",
"OP is hilarioüs ",
"Ya it's not like he's bringing back billions of dollars to the American economy. Or reducing illegal immigration. Or is passing policies that are causing the stock market to skyrocket. Nothing like that",
"It would be if the dow hadn't been on an upwards trajectory for the last 5 years. \n\nOr if the dow was actually a decent measure of economic performance.\n",
"Antifa has used just as much violence. Pretending one side is better or not as bad as the other is toxic.",
"I did realize what you were trying to say. Death tolls can not be the basis of moral comparisons, genocide olympics are pointless, and even if these two points were not true: Which country is the single force behind spreading communism in eastern europe, if not god damn Nazi Germany?",
">ad hitlerum\n\nI like this. I want to use this. This is good. ",
"There we go! Actual discussion, and I've also revealed the snake behind the \"neutral\" proposal!\n\nYou're assuming that the free press is being objective and reasonable with their accusations. However, it is pretty plain to see that they are both sensationalized and falsify a lot. Whether it is Muh Russia, the Trump health dilemma, or the disparity between the polls & results of the election. They obviously despise him, and him criticizing their lack of objective journalism is warranted. *\n\nHitler shutdown all opposition and geared all of the German news industry to be government propaganda. He also rounded up dissenters and put them in labor camps.\n\nTrump has yet to actually do anything to undermine the 1st. It has been a year and he hasn't even gotten rid of the dissenting news' press passes to the White House meetings.\n\nThis comparison is baseless fear-mongering. And like I said earlier:\n\n> Come see me when Trump-critical reporters start suiciding with two bullets to the back of the head or Trump supporters start interrupting and screaming at the opposition whenever they come to speak.\n\n\\* There are plenty of solid criticisms of Trump, but the media never focuses on those. They instead focuses on bullshit and rumor. I understand why they do it; evenhandedly debating Trumpian conservatism doesn't get clicks from irrationally angry readers. This doesn't make it right or true",
"Only if you go by the arbitrary rules u/jupp26 has put in place.\n\nWhat makes Trump more like Hitler and less like an actual American President (except Nixon) is how he doesn’t give a rat's ass about democratic principles like free press, separation of power or diplomacy. \n\nLike Hitler, Trump thinks the world is simple, black and white, with simple solutions to all problems that were just not put in place earlier because everyone except him is part of the conspiracy, or in Trump's case the political establishment.\n\nLike Hitler, Trump believes in racist and religious stereotypes, with the difference that he just wants to keep people from undesired groups out, while Hitler wanted to eradicate them completely.\n\nAlso, of course, what really makes him like Hitler, is that a whole lot of actual Nazis voted for him.",
"What the fuck are you talking about? I already posted the sources, before you and him even commented this. In case you have selective blindness, I’ll post it again. \n\nhttps://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-27/cnn-exposed-undercover-sting-producer-admits-russia-story-fake-news-pushed-ratings-0\n\nhttps://www.google.com.br/amp/thehill.com/homenews/media/339632-new-okeefe-video-shows-cnn-producer-calling-russia-coverage-mostly-bullshit%3famp\n\nhttps://www.google.com.br/amp/s/www.dailywire.com/news/17976/undercover-video-cnn-producer-says-trumprussia-robert-kraychik%3famp",
"",
"It’s Lügenpresse. You degenerated ducks ",
"This proves the thing once and for all! Now the people who claimed the thing wasn't true will be silenced and running scared as the people who always through the thing might've been the case are smug and righteous that the proof of the thing has finally been revealed to be genuine and true and real and this picture.",
"I didn't say anything that Trump did bad. Just that he wasn't the reason why the economy is doing well right now. It's not my fault that all the donald shitposters aren't capable if taking it debating a point.\n\n",
"Getting over 40k on an online pool shows that bot networks were involved. And they are really cheap to buy for your opinion and heavily used by the alt-right. \n\nAnd that you only trust them when they agree with your opinion/against media is really sad. They always have no meaning at all other than which side manipulates online media better for that topic (depending on the site it was posted and their results).",
"They shouldnt do it because it's not their responsibility.",
"Security/controls are now is much better as a cause",
"I've always seen the Hitler comparison as lazy people explaining politics to dumb people. Instead of explaining an issue, its consequences and arguing why they're negative, you can just say \"He's bad, like Hitler.\" ",
">For all you know I could be a nazi historian.\n\nLike I said, highly unlikely.",
"Don’t say that, that’s mean. Girls get raped all the time anyway. What’s a few thousand more? ",
"Maybe the worst take I've ever seen on this subject.\n\nBefore Trump twisted it to meet his own ends, the term meant exactly what it said: publications about current events masquerading as legitimate when in fact they were not. Most of this stuff had nothing to do with politics or Trump. It was shit about Justin Bieber driving off a cliff or Jeff Goldblum being found dead on \"ABCNews.thenewz.com\". Shocking headlines with a veneer of legitimacy that drove rapid viral spreading on social media.\n\nBy definition nothing actually published by a legitimate news outlet can be \"fake news\". It can be wrong, or inaccurate, but not fake.",
"He did not at all say everybody outside of Fox News is biased. What an obviously blatant strawman. ",
"> Antifa has used just as much violence.\n\nhttp://www.newsweek.com/right-wing-extremism-islamist-terrorism-donald-trump-steve-bannon-628381\n\nhttp://time.com/3934980/right-wing-extremists-white-terrorism-islamist-jihadi-dangerous/\n\nhttp://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/mary-sanchez/article189771034.html\n\nhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/1-dead-19-injured-after-car-plows-into-protesters-in-charlottesville/\n\nhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/02/28/suspect-in-kansas-bar-shooting-of-indians-apparently-thought-they-were-iranians/\n\nhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/colorado-walmart-killer-lived-alone-with-a-stack-of-bibles-and-no-furniture\n\nhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/04/28/machete-wielding-assailant-asked-about-political-affiliation-before-campus-attack-witness-says/\n\nhttp://time.com/4654434/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-mosque-shooting-donald-trump-marie-le-pen/\n\nhttps://scroll.in/latest/831598/florida-man-tries-to-set-fire-to-store-run-by-indian-americans-who-he-believed-were-muslim\n\nWhat was that you were saying?",
"You said \"legislation\", meaning \"signed into law\", not \"executive order\".",
"r/atheism distanced me from atheism, and Reddit distanced me from leftism. ",
"I remember for the last 8 years people saying faux news, discrediting a major news outlet (not saying that wasnt justified) what I am saying though, is that our government and citizens have accused the news of being fake for a long time now and this is nothing new. Has it ramped up? Sure, but to pretend that this is some new thing and might lead to a new Hitler is outrageous since its been happening for a long time now.",
"Yes I agree. Please feed me more in my feeding trough ministry of news. ",
"People can say what they want. We have freedom of speech unlike Europe. ",
"Its outrageous. Its unfair.",
"You can use Google. Why are you deliberately refusing to inform yourself? You're holding opinions on this without even doing a cursory amount of research.\n\nHere's the [link](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-japan-south-korea-might-need-nuclear-weapons/) anyway.",
"> Media has a liberal bias because reality has a liberal bias.\n\nlol",
"What strategies do they use that are comparable? CNN was the first to dub the term \"Fake News\" and it obviously backfired. Hitler shutdown the media while Donald Trump feeds off of it. ",
"From my perspective, we've been in the power of charlatans for many years. Now we finally have a president who isn't afraid to call Zimbabwe a shithole, and mobs of his brainwashed citizens cannibalize him in a mindless frenzy.",
"Hitler was elected without majority support much like Trump. Trump has nowhere close to majority support.\n\nAm I saying this means that Trump is Hitler? No, just pointing out the flaws in your arguments. \n\nOf course Trump wouldn't repeat Hitler play by play. My concern is in the similarity of tactics used that allow authoritarianism or fascism to take power.",
"Sounds like I russled your jimmies. ",
"Lol I came here to post this exact quote.\n\nDon't forget Soren Kierkegaard:\n\n\"The daily press is the evil principle of the modern world, and time will only serve to disclose this fact with greater and greater clearness. The capacity of the newspaper for degeneration is sophistically without limit, since it can always sink lower and lower in its choice of readers. At last it will stir up all those dregs of humanity which no state or government can control.\"\n\nNot exactly people we associate with Nazism. But hey, they seem to have shared a similar frustration with Adolf Hitler, so they were probably fascists.\n",
"I'm not sure what to make of this, but it is an interesting graph. Feel free to do more research, but this can guide your timeline of the phrase's popularity.\n\nhttps://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=fake+news&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cfake%20news%3B%2Cc0",
"\"Downplay at all costs.\" ",
"Ok then.",
"People don't know if congress or Senate is to blame for the shutdown, but they know what it looks like when trump drinks water!",
"Considering the fact that the Bolshevik revolution predated the Nazis by at least 30 years and the fact that there was a failed Bolshevik revolution in Germany around the time of WWI, I'd say you ought to try to substantiate the claim that the Germans were responsible for the spread of communism...\n\nDeath tolls are probably the best empirical metric for measuring evil. Do you have another metric to measure by?",
"Remember when the media edited the footage of Trump and Abe feeding the koi fish? They focused on Abe tossing small spoonfuls of food into the pond before shifting over to Trump dumping the entire box in.\n\nThe media tried to play it up as this huge \"Trump is a disrespectful dumb-dumb who kills fish\" when the actual full footage showed Abe eventually dumping his box of food first with Trump following suit.\n\nThis is why most mainstream media outlets and the people who defend them are fucking morons. They're lying through their teeth just to play up the outrage porn that people want to jerk themselves off to.",
"> Would you mind quoting the part of the article that says the coining of the term \"Fake News\" was an attack against Trump by those on the left?\n\nThe article wouldn't ever say that. It's from Politifact. ",
"What a eye roller, dont make me laugh \nor maybe they consistently get these numbers because its a giant magazine, and even if 50% were bots, the other 50% would still have voted almost exclusively the same way. And no, I don't trust them, I trust the poll with many thousands participating with high statistical significance. ",
"They literally are illegal immigrants*/criminals, champ. I apologize that I don't want cartel murderers wandering the streets undocumented. The better solution would be to help Mexico get their shit together, instead of bringing their problems to the US. ",
"Of course I've watched it. Which is why I strongly disagree that this is \"exceptional journalism\". You're trying to make your point on this one instance and it's wrong.\n\nI watch it any chance I get. The knowledge I've gotten from the show has allowed me to grasp the concept of the big picture of what's going on. I use this as a way to conduct research on my own through other news organizations. She has proven to be reliable time and time again.\n\nOh and you don't need to defend Fox news in order to portray a false equivalency. You just need to say both organizations have no value. Which is exactly what you're doing. It's not hard to tell.",
"“Everyone I don’t like is Hitler”.",
"Stateless society you say? So no public schools, social safety nets, police, or fire department? ",
"The *last* president you mean",
"Wrong try again! Hitler was “appointed” chancellor by an elected official.\n\nMaybe try educating yourself before expressing your inflammatory ignorant opinions!",
"Low quality trolling. You're just using random buzzwords to anger people. Nobody mentioned \"heritage\" until you tried to flame",
"Thank you",
"Then why does Trump want to expand the law?",
"Bullshit.",
"Hitler wasn't a 3rd world dictator ",
"R/pics has become a hive mind of libtards and ignorance. Goodbye",
"So that trumps(lol) all that he's done? It's not legislation so it doesn't count?",
"Å",
"> Remember that illegal everyone upvoted a couple months ago out of pity, and it turned out he was a murderer? Good times.\n\nWhat does comment this have to do with the picture? What does you're fucking comment have to do with it? \n\nMy comment give's insight into the mentality of the woman who is holding the sign and the women who came out against Trump yesterday in a great show of force. You're comment just seeks to invalidate mine, then you attempt to insult me. Why don't you go off and fuck your brain with more Xanax?\n",
"Oy vey, it's annudah shoa",
"I didn’t downvote because I’m an intolerant republican, I downvoted because you sound like a whiny lil bitch ",
"Immigrants are a race?",
"That’s called politics, he’s not ignoring their decision, he’s condemning it.",
"You got it backwards, the heritage foundation is a paid shill of Soros. And yes, I did know that. \n\nThe heritage foundation pushes globalist propaganda. Just because they're \"conservative\" does not mean I believe their talking points. \n\nI think for myself, I don't believe what organizations tell me to believe. ",
"What happens between him and the choir boys IS BETWEEN THEM AND GOD!",
"Do you not read what I said? I never said he doesn't have the right, I'm saying he shouldn't because there's more important things to deal with. ITS NOT HIS RESPONSIBILITY.",
"Fire bombing and creating fire storms in civilian population centers? You are proof of the statement you're responding to.",
"So the state taxing everything, bailing out industries, private interests groups and government controlling resources isn't intervention by the state? We havent been a frew society since WW1. Sorry you're ignorant to how the world opperates. The USA is about as capitalist as China.. move along dumb dumb, don't you have a speaker to intimidate away from the podium?",
"Probably because they were making up a TON of fake shit about him and it annoyed him. I would be too.\n\nThe sticking point might have been the \"prove harm\" bit. Though if a news org is maliciously lying about someone and it's provable, that should hit them anyway....",
"Dude, YOU were the one who said only legislation counts. Don’t yell at me because you don’t know what legislation actually means...",
"I've already looked into this lol. Can you quote for me specifically Trump's words when he says that Japan should have nukes?",
"Oooohhh, *feminist dykes*! Your incel rage is showing.",
"Trump doesn't give enough of a shit about anything but his ego to do anything on a Hitler scale.",
"Yeah, it's a complete clusterfuck, like the entire US political spectrum. Half of the shit current republicans are trying to kill are policies put in place by republicans, that current democrats adopted and push. It makes no goddamn sense. Christians in the US used to support abortion because it was \"a moral option\", and now parts of the christian conservative base literally attacks people for being in support of it... \n\nEverything is twisted and totally batshit insane once you follow the history of it all.\n\nIt's like politic'n has become a mockery of itself...",
"> trump will start WWIII\n\n\"So he hates Russia\"\n\n>Trump is colluding with the Russians\n\n\"So he loves Russia\"\n\nMake up your mind. You can't collude and start a war with the same country. ",
"The strategy of discrediting negative criticism by preemptively branding anyone who might deliver it as a liar.\n\nDonald Trump said on TV that he coined that term. If he was lying would you mind providing some evidence that CNN first coined that term? I've been discussing this with someone else on another post in this thread and they couldn't help me out so far.",
"A german talking about American politics? If only you would be more involved with what is going on in *your* country rather than *mine*. If you’re seriously that concerned about what is happening in *my* country, by all means apply for citizenship. I’m fairly certain (as of now) the US is still taking in immigrants from Germany. However, you might want to apply soon because we are about to stop taking in people from shithole countries, and watching what is happening to *your* country from afar, there’s no telling when Germany will fall under that category.",
"And where did you get that idea? You were the one who pushed Fox News into the discussion. In fact, i haven’t spoken a single word on it by now, and all my claims to this point have been exclusively directed at Rachel Maddow and her yet-another-instance of left biased journalism. There is no equivalency made in my statements simply because the only thing I’ve talked about is her, and nothing else. You’re wrong. \nOr you got the idea that I think “both organizations have no value” out of the thin air, which is more likely. ",
"http://diebesteallerzeiten.de/blog/2009/02/19/was-hitler-democratically-elected/\n\nElections worked differently in Germany compared to the US. Are you trying to argue that because their systems of government were different that the two leaders can have nothing in common?",
"for macOS long press u them press 4. everything is there",
"Ok let me rephrase it. What actions has he performed under his power of the presidency that makes him hitler?",
"You should get your mental illness checked out.",
"even if that is true about Mein Kampf, mfw reading a book now allows someone to judge you. The left is just as fucking insane as the right as far as I'm concerned. How dare you judge someone based on their skin color now allow me to judge you based on what books you have read. lmfao.. This world is insane.",
"You can’t say most of the mainstream media is not liberal with a straight face. Of the MSM what is right leaning other than fox? Total media coverage is probably only moderately left leaning, but of the largest media companies in the us it is definitely heavy left. CNN vs Fox is the big fight, but what are the next biggest contenders to face off with NBC, NYT, WaPost, ABC, NY Post etc? After fox what is even the next biggest definitively right leaning news source, breitbart?",
"Yes",
"That's actually fake news, the gunman was a paid actor. Ironic.",
"I actually have a masters Chemistry. I am far more wealthy and successful then you will be. I was fucking with you. It was so obvious. You should consider a lobotomy. It will be an improvement for you. ",
"and here we have a prime example of what really missleading news can make with a human and why such propaganda like Trump is dangerouse. I hope you will come to your mind soon.",
"Welt has a volume of 170k. They don't get half of them to do a vote and bots are usually 60-90% of the votes in bigger polls. Without adjustments online polls are 100% worthless.",
"Not to the cult. Deflection is king. ",
"https://youtu.be/CXpvFjxDmSI\n\n\nDr Gupta says he is at very high risk because of his calcium test. Is that incorrect?",
"Something big must be about to really hurt the democrats. This sub is in full blown anti Trump mode yesterday and today. ",
"Maybe you shouldn't run around rubbing your hands so much then, Moishe. ",
"Wäy better",
"Reductio ad Hitlerum.",
"You're the one so enraged that you *protest*. You alt-left libcucks are all the same. ",
">Or you got the idea that I think “both organizations have no value” out of the thin air, which is more likely. \n\nPerhaps I misundertood what you were trying to say.\n\nSo you're saying that Rachel Maddow does have journalistic value and it's a good show?",
"no u",
"Oh shit. I hear Hitler once used the word \"the.\" OH NO, I SAID IT! 🤐",
"I know it's a joke, but \"Die Germans\" would be correct. It's plural.",
" He does plenty enough wrong without having to wrongly compare him to Hitler you fucking retards.",
"Holy crap I did not see that coming. \n\n>~collapse of Soviets led to collapse of Cuba because the Soviets propped it up\n\nI understand this, it happened to pretty much every state propped up by the Soviets and likely for obvious reasons. Cuba, and these other nations, cannot survive on their own economically. They simply lack the development and resources to give their citizens a decent life on their own.\n\nUnder capitalism before the revolution this was fixed by having American corporations have a monopoly on almost all essential services in Cuba, sure the economy stayed afloat, but life was miserable for everyone outside of gambling and business centers in Havana. Cuba was nothing more than a casino and a plantation, and the only people living the good life were the casino and plantation owners. \n\nUnder Castro the lack of American jobs, though underpaid and miserable they were still jobs, was supplemented with Soviet investments. Quality of life wasn't too great but when it comes to education Cuba has some of the best in the world. 99% literacy. No capitalist nation matches this. \n\nIn addition to significant advancements in healthcare unprecedented for what is after all a third world nation. Food may not have much variety, in part due to economic sanctions, but Cubans by no means starve. Malnourished? Yes. But starving? You'd be hard pressed to find it. Falling and drowning kill far more than starvation. [As you can see here](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.healthdata.org/sites/default/files/files/country_profiles/GBD/ihme_gbd_country_report_cuba.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiTvNXp6enYAhVHvFMKHal9BTIQFggnMAE&usg=AOvVaw0svb2zY7N86MHn0BjBVXSE) Cuba ranks fairly high when it comes to overall health and low risks compared to other nations in the region. Life expectancy is high as well. Starvation is simply not an issue in Cuba. [Here](http://www.healthdata.org/cuba) more data of the health of Cubans. \n\nWhere Cuba falls behind is in technology. The source you provided states this in what seems to be the conclusion.\n\n>Cuba now has to have its government emphasize the importance of technology \n\n>>chief capital developments have to be carried on by public enterprise\n\nTechnological advancement may be the strong suit of capitalism, a system fueled by constant expansion, but state run enterprises are by no means incapable of it. \n\n>prevent what happened to the other socialist countries\n\nThey couldn't survive on their own plain and simple. This isn't a failure of socialism itself as much as it's bad luck that the Soviet Union collapsed. Capitalist or socialist these countries cannot support themselves.\n\n>all forms of socialism end exactly the same way\n\nOnly one form of socialism has been referenced here. Marxism-Leninism. The ideological foundation of the Soviet economy, the Chinese economy, the Cuban economy, it's only one form. State-run, one party, vanguardist, dictatorial beurocratic control over the economy. ",
"I fucking love always sunny.",
"How is nationalizing health care and education not Socialist?",
"I thought we were just naming random subs",
"I'm sure most people got it, they just didn't like it",
"Oh, so he confiscated civilian firearms? ",
"Wow I didn’t think you were really this retarded, but there it is. It is absolutely illegal to reside here if you entered illegally, it is absolutely on the books. How else would ICE be able to deport people if they were staying here legally but entered illegally?\n\nThat’s some serious mental gymnastics that you’ve got there, I’d love to know how you came to this conclusion.",
"Why do people play dumb? Obviously its not that you shouldnt question the news, its that you shouldnt call almost every news source fake new simply because they dont agree with you. He called the inauguration numbers fake news but there was literal evidence. So he shouts \"fake news\" and \"lying msm\" and many people without minds of their own parrot this slogan whenever liberal media says something they disagree with, then the same people source equally biased news like fox and breitbart.\n\nIt is fascist to discredit and attack any news that disagrees with you, as seen by Hitler\n\nPresident Trump is trying to discredit and attack news outlets that disagree with him. Draw whatever conclusions you can from that\n\nI dont think trump is fascist like hitler, but he does discredit any criticism when he should instead change and admit hes wrong. Besides, you have to be pretty smart to be a successful fascist, so im not worried about trump at all",
"\"Globalist propaganda\" wot an unhinged statement m8",
"See, the issue here is this goes far beyond Clinton vs Trump. We are talking about media outlets, about the consitituency itself, and about bullshit perpetuated by both sides. When we look at the media, the right prints out right falsehoods. The left does as well typically to a lesser degree. \n\nBut the other thing they also both do is they manipulate, twist, omit, and bullshit their way towards a story while intertwining a tiny bit of truth. The left is actually worse about this part. Things like the rapists and criminals quote during the campaign, or now the shithole comment, and how that was twisted to be racism. Or how they omit things like one of the women who marched and was a main speaker after Trump was elected had been in prison for kidnapping, sexually assaulting and murdering a guy. \n\nTrump can fully dig his own hole here as far as the garbage that comes out of his mouth he is a real piece of work. But when the left manipulates things, they lose credibility. When they put themselves on a pedestal, they have to live up to the things they say or they end up being no better than the right, false equivalence be damned. They have further to fall as they prop themselve up as the intellectual party. It ends up that they spend so much time being outraged that they don't clean house when they do the same shit. Either side can elevate themselves to actually be better rather than just pretending to be. It's about damn time one of them did.",
"Nice rebuttal. You clearly have an informed opinion and have made me change my opinion on the intelligence of the average the Donald shit poster",
"Its my weekend cuh I do what I want",
"I won't stop you from thinking that way.",
"Duh",
"> \"Diese ganze Entwicklung, die jetzt gerade stattfindet, die Herstellung von Mischvölkern, um die nationalen Identitäten auszulöschen, das ist einfach nicht zu ertragen\", hatte der neue Bundestagsabgeordnete der AfD und Richter am Landgericht Dresden, Jens Maier, im Januar dieses Jahres vor dem AfD-Nachwuchs gesagt.\n\nTranslation is roughly that the whole creation of mix races is a gigantic mistake and can't be tolerated, said by an AfD PM in front of their youth group.",
"Six million people got shoved into ovens and gassed to death this century. If this is 'accepting' I feel worse for Jewish people after reading your comment than op's. ",
"And now you're trying to use my username to invalidate any criticism. I've never taken xanax, I just sold the stuff. But it's ok, you're only doing this to make yourself feel better. Obviously, other people recognize your low quality attempts at trolling. \n\nI'm guessing that because I made this comment, you think I'm a tea party Republican that bows to trump, right? I mean after all, I don't agree with you!\n\n(I'd also learn about the different from of \"your\" and \"you're\" if I were you)",
"But I want to look at the pictures",
"https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965",
"Do you not see the difference between people calling Fox fake and the president of the United States repeatedly calling all news outlets but Fox fake? ",
"I love how people have been making this connection since during the election, and up til now they'd be ridiculed for exxagerating the situation. People are so fickle",
"Dont pretend like the trolling and meme based argument is due to you being too sophisticated to argue in a different way. It's becaise you're not capable of arguing in any other way",
"\"Judging. Watching. Look at the baby, look at the baby.\"",
"When your regime is as extreme as the Nazis, words like 'right' and 'left' kind of lose their utility.\n\nThey went right off the chart.",
"*a Master's in chemistry\n*than you will ever be\nSo why are you still making mistakes if you're not fucking with me? A degree doesn't have much to do with wealth, you'd have said what your job was if there was even a grain of truth to that. And I'm currently 1/4 of the way through earning my Master's in microbiology, so I'm guessing you're just older than me, not more successful. You should consider taking an elementary school English class, it will be an improvement for you.",
"But you've put that article forth as evidence that the left coined the term \"Fake News\" before the election as an attack on Trump. \n\nAlso, Politifact is critical of president Obama as well as other politicians on the left, so there's reason to be skeptical of allegations that partisan bias impacts their work.\n\nIf you do find evidence that the left coined the term \"Fake News\" as an attack on Trump before the election please do post.\n",
"Yup and that sub was fair and balanced before Trump ran. Lol... you libbies crack me up. ",
"I'd rather fill my mind with issues that matter rather than pointless crap. ",
"That is a desperately generous interpretation. Didn't he call the literal photographs of his inauguration fake news?",
"What is your definition of corruption? Also you realize Clinton is a private citizen/doesn't work in government?",
"\"An economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.\"\n\nRegulation does not remove that control. And I agree actually, China is capitalist. Is your only notion of capitalism so-called \"anarcho-capitalism\"? Because that would be much more accurately described as neo-feudalism. And if you support that, then add cat shite to my earlier comment.",
"You say “fuck Stalin” but then you say you don’t like the tankies who are apologists for Stalin’s violence",
"No, I don't believe our country is as awful as you make it out to be.\n\nI try to live a happy life to the best of my ability. Spending time pacing around conjuring up BS to be upset about is a terrible purpose that makes you incredibly negative and not fun to be around.",
"God damn libruls am I right.\n\n-me a dirty commie. ",
"Yes he was. His party got over one third of the vote in the last free elections and entered a coalition government with the DNVP. Then they instigated the Reichstagsbrand to get rid of left-wing opposition before outlawing them completely before the elections in November 1933. ",
"He's condemning all of the things that provide a check or balance on his power; that's very literally \"against the checks and balances.\" When you said \"point to one thing he's done,\" what did you mean by that? What counts as actually against the constitutional checks and balances if not telling people to distrust every institution that puts a check on his power?\n\nAnd incidentally, if you want to talk about ignoring decisions, how about the sanctions that Congress (the legislative branch being one of the constitutional checks and balances) passed by an overwhelming majority in July, but Trump's administration missed the October deadline to even *begin* implementing them (and I've seen no indication that they've moved any further than that \"first steps\" stage). ",
"I don't understand your point",
"Lol you're done.",
"I really don't care what you are. If you're not wanting to provide meaningful debate/ points, then this conversation is over. Have a nice life.",
"I can't even tell if you're a troll or if you actually have such idiotic thoughts. Soros Obama and Clinton, OH MY! Soros Obama and Clinton, OH MY! We're off to see the wizard... he can confirm \"99% of liberals\" are idiots!",
"Whatever keeps your narrative going sweetheart ;)",
"BU-BUT IT WASNT *REAL* COMMUNISM! REEEEEEEEEEE!",
"Until I get proved otherwise the evidence is continuing to pile up",
"I *used to* think it was just petty, but as time goes on the similarities continue to mount... \n\nIt can be easy for people to dismiss hitler as some sort of impossible idea, but the truth is hitler and his nazi germany were a very real occurrence elected by a population of normal healthy people, and it can happen again.",
"LOL its been a year and the salt is still just as strong hahahhaha \n\n\"literally Hitler\" give me a fucking break, go whine about something that actually matters",
"I hope the North Koreans are praying for us. I guess maybe we can relate to them since we both live underneath oppressive regimes /s",
"Trump has tweeted about fake news 166 times since taking office on Jan 20, 2017. If Obama and Trump are at all comparable in this regard, you should be able to come up with a similar number of instances of Obama saying stuff about Fox News in a single year. There might be a single-digit number of instances that I've forgotten about over the course of his entire presidency, but there is no way that Obama mentioned Fox News as often or as seriously as Trump has talked about CNN. Again, apples and oranges.\n\nhttp://www.trumptwitterarchive.com/archive/fake%20news%20%7C%7C%20fakenews%20%7C%7C%20fake%20media/ttff/1-19-2017_",
"Wow, just shut up. ",
"But, see- we're kind of all like this and we're seeing it in spades right now. That's what all the talk of \"confirmation bias\" is about- how we all live in our little bubbles and look for things on the internet that reinforce our beliefs, whatever they may be, while simultaneously ignoring the things that don't.\n\nIt's just much easier for human beings in general to accept what they already believe. Politics, religion, the... shape of the earth.",
"No wonder you've been banned in so many subs. \n\nThat, and the rest that you throw temper tantrums when you get downvoted. ",
"k",
"Missing the logic in marching around with female anatomy hats and chanting for rights that you've already had, claiming some kind of oppression. ",
"Right right, because all these bad policies and decisions will only affect the liberals. It'll be the only thing I have if things truly go to shit by way of Trump. Everyone looking to get at \"libbies\" are in the same fucking boat. Makes absolutely no sense, but at least you'll be there with us.",
"Sorry what violations exactly did Obama do. Please cite the incident, and the exact part of the constitution it violates. Trump is impinging on our first amendment rights including detaining protestors for no legal reason.",
"Dang it, when you put them side by side, the wrong one looks reasonible.",
"I'm sorry, but who had to take a second attempt at being taken seriously all over the world yesterday? ",
"Cheers my good man!\n\nLaphroaig Select with a rock, usually do it neat but it's early in the day and I want a little chill to it.",
"Facts don't have bias, though. CNN pundits say things that you disagree with. NBC pundits say things you disagree with. **Fox blatantly misrepresents facts, and omits coverage of events that are actually happening.** That is a monumental difference in what I would deem \"bias\". \n \nThere is **no** major media outlet outright lying on a constant basis to sell the \"liberal agenda\". I can throw a dart blindfolded at FoxNews or Breitbart's website *right now* and find something woefully inaccurate or blatantly false. Also... a broken monitor.",
"And yet it is a limitation on what the press are allowed to say compared to the status quo, right? So it is infringement on the freedom of the press compared to now.",
"Shocking how you’re able to tell me that “lügenpresse” has distorted *my* view of *your* country, but apparently for you, it doesn’t work the other way around. Apparently for you, the “news” you read about *my* president is not “lügenpresse” at all, but instead is accurate and we elected a man near the same caliber as a man your country elected. Get over yourself. Also, I’ll just leave these links here, your country is going to shit and you are in compliance. \n\n[Germany offers money for migrants to go back home](http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/12/04/germany-offers-money-for-migrants-who-go-back-home.html)\n-December 4th, 2017\n\n[Violent crime rises in Germany and is attributed to refugees](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-germany-crime/violent-crime-rises-in-germany-and-is-attributed-to-refugees-idUSKBN1ES16J) \n-January 3, 2018\n",
"[citation needed]\n\nhttps://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/22/533941689/pizzagate-gunman-sentenced-to-4-years-in-prison\n\nSo anyone who goes counter to your views of a certain political persuasion is a paid actor? Why is it so hard to believe that a gun-toting conspiracy theorist acted on a conspiracy theory?\n\nEDIT: Active in these communities: the_donald. Ahhh, I see. You're already drinking kool-aid. I guess I can't expect a reasonable conversation from you.",
"They both drank water. 😲",
"Are you kidding? What does that have to do with anything?\n\nThe AfD has nothing against German americans immigrating back to Germany do they?",
"Aaaaaaand we're back to calling Trump Hitler. I thought we were better than that.",
"That's any athlete, too. Doesn't negate it. ",
"I think the left is more anti evolution than the right. The left seems to think all races are the same even though they are each products of tens of thousands of years(probably more) of evolution in vastly different environments and that the reason differences exist is whiteys fault...",
"\"we have the all-time lowest black unemployment rate and that's great!\"\n- Trump AKA worst Hitler ever\n\n\"we need to import low skilled foreign labor to drive down wages and make black laborers more compliant with corporate priorities!\" - Schumer AKA the great liberator",
"I k ow it's not his responsibility, but he does it anyway. I love that he goes above and beyond. 😁",
"So Trump doesn't think the press should be allowed to say mean things about him? Want to give me an example of a clearly fake statement a major press outlet has made about Trump?",
"Globalism is an ideology that nation states (and therefore borders) shouldn't exist or should be superseded by a multinational government. \n\nThere have been people in this thread alone saying that. Not exactly unhinged. ",
"The assertion is worthless. Even if we assume 80% were bots which is nonsense, we also have to assume that we have on average bots voting both sides equally. Its one of many, they all say the exact same, online or offline. Overwhelmingly against, while media is overwhelmingly pro. 2015 the population was still 50:50 split according to real polls, the media reported 95:5 positive back then, negatives were near taboo. ",
"Nah fam quit assuming thats ignant",
"I mean, if you ignore all the other context, maybe you'd have a point. Keeping a book by your bedside implies that you value the ideas inside.\n\nStatements like, \"the left is just as insane as the right\" betray your agenda. If you're going to try to manipulate the conversation like that, at least try to be a little more coy about it.",
"Interesting. this is Cold War material and the \"marxist UUSR\" is dead, so his forecast is obviously wrong. But they had this plan, amazing. \nOur time Russia still does this type of stuff. But who are the new useful idiots? ",
"This seems a bit ironic when defending the speech of a subreddit that explicitly disallows anti-Trump speech. Certainly, Trump supporters have the right to free speech like everyone else, and deliberately changing Reddit's algorithm to reduce the visibility of the aforementioned speech is probably bad, too. That being said, r/T_D is guilty of exactly what you just complained about.",
"This type of rhetoric discredits liberals. It's very easy to compare someone to Hitler when they don't agree with you, but it does more damage to your argument than helps it, and worst, it does more damage to society.",
"Trump said \"fuck off with your sealioning.\"",
"Way to not get it.",
"> The Nazi party was not socialist.\n\nYet another comment trying to debunk something I did not say. I mean, there's nothing *wrong* with stating facts but by bringing it up you're implying it's somehow relevant.\n\n>Trump ran on a nationalist platform while using populism\n\n\"Politician looks to secure popular vote from nation's citizens by appealing to national and popular interest\" isn't such an eye-catching headline I guess.\n\n>He arguably uses white identity politics, although not in the most overt ways because they would be politically impossible.\n\nYou understand that to everyone outside of the Trump hysteria bubble reads this as \"Trump *doesn't* use white identity politics, and in fact has denounced prominent white identitarians repeatedly, but it would be convenient for us if it were true, so we'll pretend he's doing it covertly and that we're the only ones smart enough to spot it.\"\n\nLook, Trump's done enough completely retarded bullshit to hit him hard on legitimate terms. Why bother with this unfounded comparison to Hitler, which just makes you look completely ignorant at best or an unhinged lunatic at worst? \n\nDon't you understand this unreasonable level of hyperbole is only helping to make him *immune to more legitimate criticism.* There's a reason why The Boy Who Cried Wolf is a story we tell children.\n\nRegardless of any \"actual\" reason for disliking Trump, this as a strategy for undermining him is worse than useless. Trump and his support thrive off every hysterical overreaction of this sort, to the point where I'd wager that it's the reason he was even elected in the first place.\n\nBut whatever, I'm just venting at this point. Have a nice day.",
"Not an argument.",
"Wow this coming from somebody who constantly posts in /r/watchingpeopledie, /r/4chan, and who apparently is in a financial situation requiring them to request /r/Random_Acts_Of_Pizza \n\nYes please proclaim your knowledge so that we all can too get to a point in our life where we have \"$10 left halfway through the pay period and had to decide between food and gas\" after being \"on day 3 of frozen meatballs.\"\n\nLet us know Anok760 how you got to a point in your life where you sit at home on the internet eating fucking meatballs, begging for pizza, whining about being so forgotten because you're a no-skilled cuck whose only value in life is shilling the GOP. You are truly living the pinnacle of American life for your fellow 4channers.\n\n127,000 internet points but not even 10 points of IRL currency. You should try turning your life around, this is what rock bottom looks like. You are living in it, $10 in your bank account and here you are shilling on the internet bc that is apparently all you are good at. That fucking sucks bro. \n\nThe post history of what could very well be the saddest and most pathetic shill on Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/user/AnoK760/submitted/\n\n> I hope you swallow your tongue in your sleep and only wake up to witness the life drain from your own body and everything goes black. Thats what i hope.\n\n- [AnoK760](https://www.reddit.com/r/WatchPeopleDieInside/comments/7ry3jd/even_the_great_one_doesnt_score_sometimes/dt0n99i/)",
"Our immigration was fundamentally changed from people that wanted to be here to people coming here based in lottery systems to increase diversity. \n\nWe stopped getting just people that wanted to be Americans and started getting people that just wanted out of the countries they came from. ",
"Do you not know how our system is designed... this hurts. He’d be going against it if Trump ordered the immigrant ban regardless. The executive branch’s job is to ENFORCE the law. That’s how Obama managed to ‘change’ immigration w/o a bill, he simply ordered his federal police to back off illegal immigrants",
"Hitler drank water. I bet you drink water too, you damn Hitler. ",
"Because we all know that 24 hour cable news channels are staffed by virtuous mensches beyond reproach. You are not allowed to criticize them, because they know better than you, and without CNN, our society would literally fall apart.\n\nThey only have the best interest of their audience in mind.",
"It's either this or \"My dying grandpa had never tried a sandwich with both mayonnaise *and* mustard on it, here was his reaction when I gave him one\"",
"You were babbling about racism. Immigrants are not a race.",
"Except my point is he was intentionally arguing a strawman since he couldn't comment on the actual topic at hand. Nobody is saying Trump is Hitler.",
"You contradict yourself!",
"Downvote and report political shitposting ",
"I'm sure the Wiemar government thought similarly. ",
"Socialism is where the workers own the means of production, not whenever the government does stuff",
"No bots don't vote equally. If you assume that you are simply stupid. ",
"Go on with what? I'm suggesting that even seeing a symbol of their supposed supremacy get taken down by the justice system and removed from office will have no effect on their ideology. Which given what we've seen from many of his supporters so far, is very likely. ",
"DRUMPF is literally HITLER!!!! RIGHT GUYS?\nNOW GIVE ME REDDIT POINTS",
"Which is why for some reason the left relies on envy politics to \"get out the vote\" totally not emotive in any way, aside from tyre whole envy thing. Those rich successful smart people are evil(although they invent and create and invest in order for those envious morons to even have a job or the high standard of living they currently enjoy)...",
"i seem to remember one about how we would be able to see earth in the sky due to some extremely rare event, I was wondering where the guy who posted it to my wall got his pot.",
"You are trying to pin me as someone who prefers torture to mass murder by bomb when I explicitly stated that I am against killing innocent people. You aren’t interested in logic. You twist words to look right. You are not.",
"Well, again, a problem with this is that he has not really done that much with actual consequence as President yet. Lots of talk, not a lot of walk (I'd be interested in some concrete examples of what you think he did except the tax reform, actually). \n\nThe biggest parallels are how they both blatantly lied to their people, both believe in a simple black and white world view with racist and religious stereotypes at their basis, both don’t believe in democratic principles like separation of power and free press and both think they are the only people who \"get it\". Both won their respective elections by ignoring political conventions and being the first of their kind, being hailed by their supporters for their perceived honesty and authenticity. They’re both demagogues.\n\nOf course that likens Trump not only to Hitler but to pretty much every dictator out there, Hitler is just the most prominent of them.\n\nAlso of course there are LOTS of differences. Trump doesn’t want to kill all muslims and Mexicans, he just wants them to stay out. And Trump doesn’t want to conquer other countries for Lebensraum, he just wants to build a wall on their border and make them pay for it (how’s that coming, by the way?).\n\nSo are the comparisons 100% justified? Of course not. But there’s enough there to be really worried.",
"I can make a point - And this discussion doesn’t need to become aggressive with name calling, we simply disagree on a few points is all.\n\nI would say to you that giving Obama credit for all of Trump’s accomplishments so for is actually an argument that has been made many times before with multiple presidents. For example, people argue that Clinton’s economic success was due to the policies Bush had put in place prior.\n\nI do however think it is hard to disagree that many of the improvements I’ve listed have come almost immediately after Obama left. He had 8 years in office and you are saying these successes just “happen” to be taking place now?\n\nAre you saying that you will give Trump no credit whatsoever? Would that perhaps not show your bias? Does your distain for Trump cloud your ability to look at the facts objectively?",
"Such as?",
"Why do people always just mention 6 million jews that died in Nazi concentration camps? There were about 17 million people in total that died there and all people seem to focus on is the jews. What about the 11 million non-jews that died?",
"Disregarding civilian casualties is never morally imperative. Much of this bombing wasn't even attacking military or industrial targets and not caring about bystanders, it was bombing to kill civilians and break morale. We were doing it for the same reasons the Germans were. To quote General Telford Taylor at Nuremberg:\n\n>If the first badly bombed cities — Warsaw, Rotterdam, Belgrade, and London — suffered at the hands of the Germans and not the Allies, nonetheless the ruins of German and Japanese cities were the results not of reprisal but of deliberate policy, and bore witness that aerial bombardment of cities and factories has become a recognized part of modern warfare as carried out by all nations.\n\nSo sure, the Allies were fighting a just war and the Nazis had to be defeated. But that doesn't excuse everything they did. If we pretend everything the Allies did was OK because it was done by the Allies, we condone the same atrocities in future wars. It isn't even clear to me how effective the strategic bombing was at shortening the war: how many days were saved by each 1,000 civilian deaths?\n\n---\nTo your questions:\n\n>How many jews in camps awaiting the chamber would it take for you to accept 1 million civilians dying in raids?\n\nProbably on the order of a million, though less than exactly 1 million. A civilian life is a civilian life, be that civilian a Jew in a camp or a German in a city, so the factor here is more that a Jew dying in the Holocaust suffers more. 1 million civilian deaths wouldn't be worth saving say 100,000 Jews. And this argument does *nothing* to excuse the civilian bombing of Japan. \n\n>How many GIs at the Omaha beach?\n\nLots. More than a million. Death as a soldier is an occupational hazard, so a civilian dying is worse than a soldier dying. Conscription makes this distinction less stark, but nevertheless you can't make an equivalency there.\n\n------\n\n>That's a convenient distinction that does not at all apply to totalitarian states.\n\nThe distinction between the people and the government is even more stark in a totalitarian state, since in such a state the people do not consent to be ruled by their government. ",
"I think liberals got manipulated by PC language to advocate for things that would collapse American society. Many of these people are my peers and they are otherwise smart. I don't think they're idiots. They're \"useful idiots\" because they believe what professors and pundits tell them to believe. \n\nAnd yeah, Obama, Soros, and Clinton are the most recognized figures that perfectly represent who I'm describing so why wouldn't I use them in my statement? ",
"I mean, CNN is known to green screen their reporters into “war zones” and use their crew as supposed passerby’s for interviews out in the streets. And they do misreport, and use unverified sources as “reliable” ",
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"Hillary lost because she wort politician America has to offer. Every office she has ever held was has ended in failure. Her land investments in Arkansas during the 80s ended in crippling debt. Her healthcare reform in the 90's failed so badly she was forced to step down. Her office of secretary of state under Obama is tainted by Benghazi. \"at this point what does it matter\" Hillary Clinton speaking about the soldiers and US fucking AMBASSADOR. She should be on trial for her involvement with the Haiti scandal also. Don't even get me started on the emails. \nShe is a lying, hateful cunt and career politician who was one given a chance cause she doesn't have a cock and her husbands last name. ",
"Alright, let’s back this up a bit so we have a little context. The term “fake news” made a resurgence in use to describe sources that were blatantly fabricating content for money or to mislead. These sources included the Macedonian news farm we heard so much about as well as fake media conglomerates like Disinfomedia. This is not what Trump and his supporters are referring to when they use the term. [Here is a good article on the subject.](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/oct/18/deciding-whats-fake-medias-definition-fake-news-vs/)\n\nTrump has turned “fake news” into a cry to discredit the press that has been not favorable to him. This is clearly seen when he praises Fox News, who has been at fault for pushing multiple false stories and has to legally identify as entertainment not news, while he derides any source that criticizes him.\n\nSo to answer your question, I would call that clickbait. There is a vast difference between clickbait and journalism, for one journalism is sourced and verified by editors. A journalistic agency, while they can have their faults can not afford to blatantly publish “fake news” because it would destroy their credibility and worth. This is why these sources will retract untrue stories, and issue corrections because it’s what they have done for decades. I would recommend reading more about how print media, journalism, and the press has operated in the US for the past century, it might give you more insight on what “Lügenpresse” is and how it relates to “fake news”.",
"!=",
"The implication is that a story that is published and retracted is fake you dense clown",
"Sounds like you out the argument so you just deflected trying to frustrate him. ",
"On average they do, in individual cases they don't. Who says only one person is botting? Thats a dumb assertion. There is only one logical assumption and that is that all sides are using bots and the average vote is skewed equally, as there is zero evidence for otherwise. ",
"Have you ever seen the BBC documentary HyperNormalisation? It goes even deeper than that, it suggests that the complexity of the real world is too difficult to manipulate, so politicians abroad and the elite cabal banded together to literally create a fake world in which we live to keep the population more docile. Check it out, it's a few hours long but it's really good. \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aLQPNPlK5M",
"So do you also consider F as a handicapped E, and is B just a P with an extra boob?\n\n\n",
"Uh yeah it kinda does. ",
"Ok. This isn’t about political beliefs, it’s about whether photos of political memes belong on this sub, and they don’t.",
"> is B just a P with an extra boob?\n\nI have never thought of it that way until now, but I will always think of it this way going forward.",
"Even if this were true, why would an entire community be punished because a user doxxed someone?",
"https://www.gop.com/the-highly-anticipated-2017-fake-news-awards/",
"On the right hand side of r/all you can filter out specific subs.",
"Honestly, college students are the new useful idiots. They're ideological and sheltered. Many young people in college don't know anything about communism and insist \"it hasn't been done before\". They march and protest and advocate for change. But they're also weak and lazy in other respects. They're richer and more privileged than they think. They'd be the first ones killed if the revolution they call for actually succeeded. ",
"Fuck this sub.",
"Oppression is on the rise? You wish so you could you have something to cuntplain about",
"Ok I don’t like the guy at all either but he’s definitely not comparable to hitler...come on people.",
"[\"A Soviet weekly newspaper today published the most detailed accounting of Stalin's victims yet presented to a mass audience here, indicating that about 20 million died in labor camps, forced collectivization, famine and executions. (...) In all, [historian Roy Medvedev] calculated about 40 million victims of Stalin's repressions, including those arrested, driven from their land or blacklisted..\"\n](http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/04/world/major-soviet-paper-says-20-million-died-as-victims-of-stalin.html)\n\nBut, sure, Josef Stalin was a fucking saint.",
"The above link gives instructions on filtering political content.",
"“Everyone” you say? Or just you and your echo chamber? 🤔",
"xD . I don't really need other media for it, all points I made I was able to veryfy with first-hand-sources - all of them directly out of Trump's mouths and tweets. The rest of the media just fits this discription, but I haven't made any point for which you need secondary media to verify it.\n\nAnd the other parts, I know this all. Yeah - Germany pays illegal migrants to go back, as the process of getting rid of them is way easier if they are payed. If you have the slightest idea of international poltiics and how difficult it is to extradite someone of which the home-nation pulls every card not to get back (and that is what is happening with most extradition of illigal migrants), than you would understand the situation better. But you seems to relay on propagandistic headlines without even thinking into the matter - so I don't think I can convince you with that one.\n\nAnd about the violent-crimes. Yes, there is a rise, and that is attributed to refugees. I don't know what you try to point out rather than your ignorance. First of all, it does not fit the attempts to make this an islamist issue as the increase of crimes fits statistically perfect with the increase of people in that age-range that came, in special in connection with the fact that they are alone without family. That said, this is an issue that has to be tackled, but at the same time, we have to consider real politics. What is your solution for the problem? The crisis started when Europe tried to keep these people away, they came and died on the borders of europe and the people that came threw overstrained the resources of Greece. They broke through greece and the complete balkan and only got to a hold in Hungary for a while, until the inhuman conditions there caused them to break out again, Hungary calling Austria with the info that a few 100.000 people were on the way. The EU did everything to that point short of shooting them to keep them away. Austria, fearing the situation, called Germany and Germany acted as an relieve-velve, taking the refugees that were too much for Greece and basically the complete eastern Europe to handle. this was convinient for Eastern Europe and instead of using germany as an relieve velve (as it was planned), they funneld all of them through, including with spreading the \"invitation\"-myth.\n\nSo, in your opinion, what should have Germany done? Using death-treaps and live ammunition, killing these that came? Because, again, everything else was basically tried before.\n\n\nEdit:\n\nTL;DR: You are someone who's view was completly destorted by propaganda, who has lost his touch with reality and just claims idiocy because it sounds good when you have no clue what you are talking about.",
"didnt read lol",
"> CNN is known to green screen their reporters into “war zones” \n \nIf by \"known to\" you mean \"got accused of that one time 25 years ago but it turns out the conspiracy was wrong\"? OK... not going to accept that one... it is also a weird leap to accuse CNN of something like that when Fox has played fake ISIS videos on the air repeatedly.\n\nThe remote interviews when they are both in the same parking lot... that shit is hilarious... but poor production isn't bias. \n \nThey also retract when they misreport. When was the last time you heard Fox apologize for or retract something inaccurate they reported on the air? \"Literally never\" is the answer to that question. It certainly happens... daily... so they've had ample opportunity to act like an actual news organization.",
"It is with regards to media. No different. ",
"Jobs are up, stock market at all time high, and unemployment is at an all time low! I don’t need anything else... That’s true news",
"Shapes, I figured it'd get across to even those struggling :)\n\n",
"oh don't get me wrong, I am a very polite person and won't be that direct with my opinion in direct, real-life contact. \n\nI, myself, am not 100% happy about how the refugee crisis was handled, I see it quite similar like you've described it. But I can get quite puzzled when (eg my Mum herself, the most kind person I can imagine) says that *every* refugee is a criminal and they shall leave immediately. Or that everyone \"with dark skin and a beard\" shall be controlled by the police on the street. (That's racist, for sure).\n Or all these lovely arguments from others, that our jobs are taken away, our culture is going to die... \n\nUnfortunately I experienced that every argument is useless. Their opinion is based on emotions, fear in particular. Arguments usually do not change emotions. That's also the main reason why the AfD is so successful, because they're addressing those emotions ",
"What facts? The fact is he is abusing power, stealing money, dividing the country, and obsessed with his ego. You can deny reality to yourselves and be sympathizers, but you won't shut the rest of us up.",
"Nah, I’m just callin it like I see it. You have no counter argument. You thought you could say some cunty words to mask your stupidity and I’d back down, but I’ve dealt with many of your kind before you, and I’ll deal with many of you in the future. ",
"You do realize that we live in a world where people call Trump a Nazi every single day?\n\nSo yeah.",
"Looks like almost 40,000 people disagree with you, sorry!",
"Reddit forgets that Democrats came up with [\"fake news\"](https://youtu.be/V8qrjYjtXGY)",
"You gotta be kidding me, he has been playing chicken race with one of the worlds most dangerous lunatics with nuclear weapons. If you think the world is safer with Donald in the White House you obviously don't have all the camels in the drawer.",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM403CAx5fI",
"Wow !! Comparing someone to Hitler to make a point !! Didnt think of it!! Brilliant !! Innovative !! You have me convinced now and you totally not discarded yourself as intellect capable human being !",
"Liberals are pathetic as fuck. Glad I’m off this crazy train.",
"I mean you basically described the entire internet the last 12 years... Before Trump was elected you couldn't visit a website without seeing some comment about\"Osama Hussain Obama.\" Before that you couldn't get online without seeing something about Bush and Iraq. This isn't new.",
"Don't forget that fake news was a term created by Trump's opposition, he just adopted it ",
"Nato is not an American organization and it will survive without the US.",
"Anti-communist, yes. Anti-fascist? Maybe in 1920, but obviously not by 1930, which many regard as the more important part of his life. Note your quote says, \"anti-capitalist,\" which fits with the factual statement that fascism is a socialist ideology, and there is no rebuking that. Again. Learn about Giovanni Gentile. Learn about what fascism *actually is*.",
"Lol got em!!!1 xD 🔥💯",
"Does not mean anything about their willingness to integrate",
"I don’t even know what you’re arguing about lol I’m not defending fox in any way. I hate biased reporting in general and my point was that more major news sources in America are left leaning than right. Retractions barely matter, headlines hold by far the biggest impact that an article will have, and biased sources (left or right) are guilty of skewing the public’s beliefs with misleading/inaccurate titles.",
"Is something disconnected in your brain? \\*You\\* are the one saying 'everyone'. Everyone being all the news outlets you completely dismiss because \\*you\\* think they're lying. Perhaps the fact that you lack any ability for comprehensive reading is an indication of your extremely dumb position. You lack any kind of self awareness of your own irony. You're so blindly convinced that everyone is against you and 'your group', that you've completely isolated yourself. If that's not an echo chamber, we need to revisit its definition.",
"You're way too far gone. The fact is that he'll never be anywhere near Hitler. He's got a big ego, sure. Dividing the country? People like you did that. Stealing money? I thought we were debating, not screaming accusations like children.",
"That's for the 10% or so of the commenters that are actual people. The rest is shills talking to other shills and being upvoted by bots",
"Saying 'don't compare people to Hitler unless they have killed millions' prevents people from learning from history. There's nothing intrinsic to Germans that made them genocidal, it was just a set of circumstances & specific leadership that lead them there. In other words, under the right circumstances & leadership, America could end up committing genocide. Now I grant that I don't think Trump is the leadership that would bring us there, but that's not really the point here. It's more of a disagreement on the principle that we shouldn't compare people to Hitler, not an agreement that Trump is Hitler.\n\nI also grant that this post is a poor way of discussing (which let's be honest, it's not attempting to discuss, I think it's solely seeking to criticize) whether 'lying press' tactics lead to, or had a role in leading to dictatorship in Germany, but I don't think the idea of discussing the question is bad.",
"?",
"We must have seen the wrong article cus the one I saw was just about him dumping some food into a koi pond. Seems pretty inconsequential to me. If we're reading the same article I'm missing something. So what if he poured fish food into a koi pond?",
"Because the sub didn't moderate against it? The community has to uphold some basic standards. If it doesn't, it is punished. Every single sub is beholden to these rules. Try pretending to doxx someone or figure out their address/location in a sub that's been around for awhile. I GUARANTEE that post is going to get deleted, QUICK. \n\nHell, even 4chan is beholden to these rules. You try to doxx someone on 4chan you will get banned 100%. They actually made those rules in response to this issue.",
"I think this belong to r/cringeanarchy ",
"I agree with this, to begin with the majority arent falling for it. Hitler was an evil warmongering genius, Trump's a bumbling idiot but just really damn good at marketing himself to idiots.",
"Ok sure. Troll on.",
"Fucking marching around like you rent the place.",
"Why do you take into account international Islamist groups but not white nationalist one's? Just curious, cause you note Middle Eastern groups as reason to watch immigration from those nations, but white nationalism has been on the rise and is significantly more organized and violent in many European countries than it is in America. Should we consider restricting Polish, Ukranian etc visas for the same reason?",
"I dont really think trump even knows what nationalsocialism looked like in terms of politics but he also tries to make the media the bad guys and the 'establishment', which definetly is nazilike and dangerous. ",
"I was going for his inability to keep a stable staff, and it's blatantly obvious his staff is carrying him through this because he has no idea how the government actually works.",
"> I hate biased reporting in general and my point was that more major news sources in America are left leaning than right \n \nI'm trying to explain to you why this statement is wrong... no one is arguing. This statement has no basis in reality. There are only less \"right leaning\" TV networks... because there is basically only one. That doesn't mean the rest are \"left leaning\" by default... you have to judge them based on what they actually say and do. To suggest that what Fox does and what CNN/NBC do is \"the same\" is just not understanding how egregiously and regularly Fox is lying about things that can actually be looked up... things that there is no real reason to even lie about.\n \nRetractions absolutely matter. They be the only thing that matters. They matter far more than just \"appearing to get it right all the time\". You have to admit to it and correct when you report something inaccurate, otherwise there is no reason to trust *anything else you report*.",
"They might as well be to these fuckheads. Tell **them** that someone just looking different from you doesn't mean they are from another country.",
"It means that they can face repercussions for purposefully spreading false information. This, of course, would be handled in court and they have the right to fight it. It's a reasonable restriction, like shouting fire in a crowded theatre is not protected speech under the first amendment.",
"That awkward moment when republicans realize they are using nazi slogans but stay the course to save face",
"And you enjoy the opposite because it confirms yours. I hope you realise that there's no good vs evil, it's all grey.",
"No wonder our modern day newsjews compare Trump to Hitler, they can't help but treat him the same way as the German newsjews did to Hitler back in the 30s.",
">The man is extremely under qualified. \n\nAnyone who makes this criticism of Trump but stands by their support of Obama is a fucking clown",
"It's illegal *here* because we don't want neo-nazis telling people that maybe their mustachio'd pop idol wasn't such a bad guy after all and we should all give this whole fascism thing another go because \"brown people\". It's odd how whenever someone claims the holocaust didn't happen or was \"exaggerated\" and that they just want a free and open examination of history, they coincidentally also turn out to hate Jews. \nOh, and by the way, holocaust denial isn't even illegal in *your* country, you utter muppet.",
"You’re right, the President does not belong to a party that controls all three branches of government. You’re right, the Reichstag Fire was not a thing and the was no such thing as a German Parliament prior to the NSDAP seizure. \n\nAcknowledging similarities is not anti-Semitic, quit pandering. \n\nKeep making broad assumptions about those who differ from your opinion because it’s convenient for your argument. ",
"And roughly 72 million Germans agreed with Hitler. Majorities don’t prove anything.",
"He plays golf and pays himself with us tax dollars to do it. That is theft. The country was not nearly as divided as this under Obama or George W. The fault lies with the man making up Twitter awards about news agencies he doesn't like. None of this normal or appropriate and you defending that makes you a sympathizer.",
"I think you’re missing the point. I agree we shouldn’t be running around yelling “Trump = Hitler” but as I see it, the term “fake news” as Trump uses it closely relates to the way the Nazi’s used “Lügenpresse” to discredit dissenting media outlets. When you use tactics that the Nazis used, don’t be surprised when you’re compared to Nazis.",
"once they reach remotely the same presence as isis, declare war om the united states and begin to occupy large sections of Europe, sure why not. ",
"I've seen it floating around. Thanks, I'll check it out.",
"No, trump anticipating he was going to constantly blatantly lie with racist untruths lead him to use the term against respectable press to devalue the term when it would inevitably be used to describe his stupidly obvious lies.\n\nIm here for you where drumpf university failed you in your education.",
"I know the origin and mutation of the phrase. I was specifically referring to CNN, MSNBC, The Washington Post, and other previously reputable news sources as being the culprits of spreading mis and disinformation. Some of these still have solid journalists working for them, but not many, and their ideological agenda positively drips from their articles and the people they hire.\n\nAlternative media has many bad apples and many good ones, but as the legacy media has poisoned its credibility with, what can **only** be described as, hysteria with regards to Trump and the ridiculous accusations that are made and forgotten week-to-week, alternative media is the future.",
"Looks like this is where you bail out.\n\nRead this book\n\nhttps://www.amazon.com/Righteous-Mind-Divided-Politics-Religion/dp/0307455777#customerReviews",
"You are the fuckhead. You accuse someone of racism without any reason.",
"Yes, Communism was active much longer. I don't really understand what your point is.\n\nI don't know much about the Nazi's plan to starve off 20M to 30M, but I will definitely look into that, thank you for bringing it to my attention. But, let's try to leave out things that were planned but never happened. We've got plenty to talk about that DID happen.\n\nYes, yes you can use body count as a yard stick. As sick as it sounds, there is an acceptable number of deaths tolerated during a war. That's why genocide is a thing, where death tolls are astronomically high. It's not just a body count, these are peoples lives, and we should be careful before we embrace an ideal that has historically killed off its own people in the tens of millions.\n\nLike you said, communism was around a lot longer and tried in different countries all over the world, with different cultures. The outcomes were the same. Resulted in a small group of people running an entire country and killing their own people off by the millions.",
"No, that is a false equivalency to equate propaganda outlets to international respected news organization lol\n\n",
"Reddit has made me realize that the slippery slope is not a fallacy. The shit that young liberals believe now is beyond the pale compared to the shit that liberals twenty years ago were guilt tripping society into.",
"http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2625901/\n\nYou liberals need to cover your tracks better.",
"Don't make me go Boston Tea Party on your ass!",
"Nothing racist about what he said. African countries are amongst the lowest standard of living on the planet. Nobody said anything about race until you arrived.",
"Sites like these are breeding grounds for the FB/social nonsense.\nhttps://www.factcheck.org/2017/07/websites-post-fake-satirical-stories/ ",
"Bullshit. Prior to the 2016 election, reddit was nowhere near as fucking adamant about pushing politics onto everything as it is now.",
"well said",
"Hahahahahah christ you cunts are unbearable",
"\\>implying CNN has any more journalistic integrity than Fox News",
"I think the difference is that the president is the one calling specific outlets ‘fake news’. This is bad both when democrats and republicans do it. Regular people like you and me can call outlets fake, but it gets into weird territory when politicians are the ones doing it. ",
"I'm pretty sure all government officials are paid with tax dollars. Also, people like you are the real villains in this scenario. Screaming and crying over minor differences. You're a lot worse than the man you're trying to go up against. Which reminds me. You can't do anything to him. I don't like Trump. Never have. But you and your little movement are making things a whole lot worse.",
"PSA: this guy doesn't know what authoritarianism is",
"I'm not asking for the source. I'm asking for what they did. Again, propaganda on the internet isn't going to get the old people on their side. And even then, I don't recall any positive things about Trump being said. Only negatives.\n\nWhich means unless the entire election system is comprised in secret, there's nothing going on here.",
"Pointing out they used the exact same slogan lol\n\n\n",
"The US is currently divided in many ways. Plus the system is purposefully built with gridlock and checks and balances. Nothing can't change it unless everyone wants it changed. With how the current climate is nothing is going to get changed. The republicans who have the simple majority are having a hard time passing anything as is.",
"And a lot more that would cause a 2nd civil war.",
"A list of some of the worst \"the like\"- https://www.factcheck.org/2017/07/websites-post-fake-satirical-stories/",
"lol where is your proof that doxxing openly occurred on that sub? And give me a source for doxxing as the reason Reddit changed their algorithm to keep them from appearing on /r/all. \n\nThe bullshit reason I recall was because they \"abused stickies\".",
"All respectable press globally you mean to favor right wing racist propaganda rags you guys like to read",
"The tolerant left, everybody",
"Considering you cannot get banned from CA for personal views, I disagree. I regularly post pro Communist stuff without issue. \n\nDefend Trump on half the subs out there? Banned.",
"Classic, bringing up Obama out of nowhere haha. Can't debate Trump's qualifications without bouncing shit off the pitiful Obama/Clinton talking points? What makes Trump qualified to run the office of the president? His business dealing in the US were so blatantly terrible that banks literally stopped lending him money...Obama: was previously a senator, had above a fourth grade reading level, never tweeted things such as \"I'm like, very smart\", had an incredible ability to speak to a crowd. There are 4 things. Your turn.",
"I don't want a wall at all. I don't think it will help at all. People who do it legally are being punished because they didn't have to go through all that crap in the first place, they could've just hired a coyote. Do you think we should have immigration laws or not? Do you think immigration laws should be enforced or not? When you have rules that say you can have your child stay forever without punishment and essentially skip the line for immigration, of course people are going to take advantage of that.",
"I never said give Obama credit for everything Trump does. What I did say is that we are 13 months inti the Trump presidency and the economic data for the last 5 years has been showing growth and improvement. So claiming that unemployment is low because of Trump is disingenuous. Same with the stock market, which as I've already stated is not an accurate representation of the performance of the economy.\n\nIf Trump does something good I'll be happy. So far the republicans have managed to give a tax cut. Which the way they did it was not fantastic. I would have rather seen them do something about the complexity of taxes rather than just slashing rates. People can still get through too many tax loopholes. And it definitely was designed to help the rich much more than anyone else. And considering that our economy is based on consumerism we need the real tax benefit to go to the middle and lower classes.\n\nSo ultimately, Trump has accomplished very little and has an administration much more known for scandal, corruption and incompetence rather than making positive change. His plan for healthcare is essentially to let the system fail whilst kicking the supports out just to prove how bad it is. No desire to fix anything, let's just make sure we reference how bad venezuela is becaise of socialism and talk about wait times in Canada. That way we can just ignore the issue.\n\nClinton did receive things that helped him manage the economy when he was president. He took a good thing and made it better. Obama inherited worthless wars and the worst economy since the great depression. And 8 years later things were really working well. But republicans couldn't see the improvement because it came from Obamas leadership. Then when Trump gets in office suddenly the whole economy is fixed. It's just total bullshit. Our government has been paralyzed under Trump. And Trump has no governmental opposition. Republicans control all 3 parts of the federal government. There's no reason they shouldn't accomplish their plans. But the truth is they don't want to lead or govern. Modern republicans want to yell and scream about immigrants and socialism. They are fundamentally only United when they are against something and have shown no capacity for leadership. GOP ought to stand for General Opposition to Progress\n\nIt's just the same old story. Low taxes, more military, less immigrants, more guns, no abortion and let's be afraid of Muslims just to shake things up. No real thought to it. Just standard base level politics that get poor white people feel like they're something other than on the same socioeconomic rung of the ladder as poor black people.\n\nThe democrats are corrupt. But at least they get the basics of governance.\n\nI despise Trump. But I'd rather him succeed than fail. Which is more than can be said for republicans under Obama. Remember when Mitch McConnell stood up on tv and said 'our job is to deny this president everything'",
">Xenophobic how?\n\nHe ran campaign built on racist lie obama was a kenyan muslim.\n\nHave some self respect and not the skidmark in history you will be regarded as",
"> Anyone who makes this criticism of Trump but stands by their support of Obama is a fucking clown\n\n - [TheVegetaMonologues](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rxt2e/lugenpresse/dt0xeiy/)\n\n\n\n> Look, when you encounter a guy whose father is from Kenya, whose name is Barack Hussein Obama, who can be seen in photos in traditional African garb, who has referred to Kenya as his home country, and whose birth certificate is not immediately available, it's not unreasonable to think that he might be from Kenya.\n\n- [TheVegetaMonologues](https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/7ra48v/us_withholds_hurricane_emergency_loan_sought_by/dsw8trb/)",
"Yes but if they continue on their current path in a few generations they might end up like some of these developing countries. Great empires have been known to fall. People need to be vigilant in their fight for democracy. Just because someone has it worse doesn't mean you have to settle for less than.",
">Don't you think that people were saying exactly that about Hitler?\n\n\nThis is a bullshit point. Society cannot function under the presumption-of-Hitlerhood. ",
"Dude he links a washingonpost.com article and you're *still* going to call him a trump troll? Never go full retard ",
"No, YOU’RE missing the point, and proving it at that. What I literally just said was that comparing Trump to Hitler because you cherry picked a thing that the Nazis did similar to Trump is a dumb argument. \n\n>>When you use tactics that the Nazis used, don’t be surprised when you’re compared to Nazis.\n\nRight there, you’re literally doing what I said you should do.\n\nNazis passed legislation to protect animals native to Germany. Are we Nazis whenever we pass legislation to protect animals?\n\nNazis passed anti tabaco laws. Nazis had a huge public welfare program. When legislation is passed for welfare, are those people Nazis? \n\nYou can cherry pick an issue so that pretty much any party has done something similar to Nazis. It’s one of the weakest arguments you can make. \n\nDiscrediting the media is a dangerous thing a politician can do because it skews our perception, not because the Nazis also did it. ",
"Ebilllllll druuummmpfffff two scoops!!!",
"Yes. Major rule in German.\n\nVor dem Fenster steht ein Baum (a tree stands in front of the window)",
"Because republicans are gullible, see party line global warming denial.\n\nIt only works on stupid uninformed people, or at best willfully ignorant people you pander to with racist rhetoric.",
"> Do you not know how our system is designed\n\nYes.\n\n> He’d be going against it if Trump ordered the immigrant ban regardless.\n\nBut he can't do that now, because of the checks and balances. That point is not at issue here; my point is that he's doing everything he can to weaken those checks and balances, so that he would have more unchecked power to do something like that in the future.\n\n> The executive branch’s job is to ENFORCE the law.\n\nOh, you mean like the way Obamacare is the law, but Trump's administration did everything they could to sabotage it? \n\n> That’s how Obama managed to ‘change’ immigration w/o a bill, he simply ordered his federal police to back off illegal immigrants\n\nActually, Obama [set records](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/21/donald-trump/trump-right-deportation-numbers-wrong-talks-about-/) for how many people he deported, causing pro-immigration groups to give him the nickname of \"deporter-in-chief.\"",
"> was this pic posted because it was a good pic\n\nDoes the sidebar of this subreddit state that the \"pics\" being posted have to be high quality in terms of photographic quality? I just read through and I don't see that rule.\n\nThis kind of stuff is awkward. /r/pics is a very mainstream subreddit. Content like this isn't really welcome in any other mainstream subreddit. It's not an \"adviceanimal\", and /r/politics doesn't allow this kind of content. \n\nWhat other mainstream sub would be more appropriate than /r/pics? If there is a desire for high quality professional photos, maybe THAT needs it's own subreddit. I'm sure one probably exists.",
"Holy shit bro get off his dick\n\n",
"Yeah, the government shut down is exactly like the Holocaust /s",
"Lol",
"Because he believed that he was just trying to enforce the laws that are already on the book. It's the same way with Sessions. I think pot should be legal, but it's not Session's job to do that, is it? So people use him as a scapegoat when really it's up to the lazy ass legislators to change the laws that everyone already agrees with. So in that same manner, I believe Trump thought that he was legitimately just trying to do his job. I don't have to agree with something to be able to understand someone else's viewpoint on it. If your only thought is that Trump hates brown people, things have already gone over your head and you're simply falling into identity politics.",
"How on earth can you take away that I like to read \"right wing racists propaganda rags\" from my comment? Please enlighten me how you got to that, this should be good. \n\nI'm not American and think your president is a bozo.",
"I mean, I went 3 posts deep in this guy's history and found an anti-Semitic shitpost. That's when they lost the presumption of honesty from me.",
"My definition of corrupt is an entire party creating a false narrative that our President colluded with Russia, only to have it turn out that they were the ones colluding. It’s bordering treason the things they have done to try and get Trump out of office. Dems losing their shit right now because they have no where left to run. Yup I do realize that and that’s why she will be in jail :) ",
"Ok, at this point you are just willfully playing stupid purely for annoyance. I will not bother myself anymore with this, having already shown my point anyway. Good riddance. ",
"It isn't a nazi invention obviously but it's a tool used by the nazis to discredit independent news organizations in favor for their own national news. National news in this case being Fox, with only one correspondent who is even slightly critical of the president Shepard Smith. In response many of his own colleagues have thrown him under the bus.",
"Trump is obese, truth hurts.\n\nHe also claims to be talller than obama but obama is taller side by side lol.\n\nAlready debunked as an obvious liar, you know ignoring all the other lies he fires off daily that are just as easily debunked.",
"You mean the guy who brought post WW1 Germany back as a major world power, almost took over Europe, and exterminated 6 million people?\n\nHitler was evil, but pretending he wasn't intelligent and charismatic is just stupid.",
"For his flaws, Hitler worked very, very hard for what he did. He genuinely believed that what he was going was right by the country, and Europe as a whole. \n\nTrump, however. Well... Is a golfist and a twitterer that doesn't start work until 11am. ",
"Okay, yeah, teachers tend to be like that. Though there could be made a valid argument against marking it incorrect. First of all, it's at best kind of a grey area, writing \"ue\" instead of \"ü\" by hand may be a bit awkward, but it's not wrong. Moreover, it is the original way of writing an Umlaut. And since it's totally accepted when using a non-german typeset, it cannot be wrong as such. There might be some Duden comment advising against it, but look at the \"ß\", when using capitals you kind of have to use the substitute \"SS\". So, yeah, you might have had to argue with your teachers, because they are, after all, teachers. And because they are, they might not have accepted this reasoning, but at least you would have had the moral high ground.",
"My whole first post is about how Russia helped them win. Not gonna argue in circles. ",
"I'm pretty sure Donald Trump came up with the term. After all, he has the best words! ",
"CNN could literally make a headline “trump sacrifices children to Satan” and it would be the biggest headline of the year. If they retracted it, how many do you think would hear about it, 25% would be an insanely optimistic guess, and that would probably be with Trump gloating about it on Twitter/Facebook. Now a random article of no major consequence? Lousy chance that anybody that read the article hears about it (unless they’re a regular read - unlikely to stop reading anyway) and close to zero chance that someone that just browsed the headlines (most readers) hears about the retraction. A small percentage of people are actually informed on topics, though they might pretend to be after reading the ticker headlines on tv while in the airport or seeing the trending headlines on Facebook.",
"> But, sure, Josef Stalin was a fucking saint.\n\nOf course not, but you're the one that takes everything literally. And literally, he didn't kill anyone. Neither did Hitler, BTW.",
"No problem! I love recommending books (currently reading Manufacturing Consent by Chomsky, very relevant given the media forces at play in USA today and it was written in 1988). Marcuse is one of my favorite philosophers of the modern era to read. One-dimensional man and Repressive Tolerance are great and you can see the comparisons to today and the 60s. Also A Critique of Pure Tolerance, also 1965 by Robert Wolf (Marcuse was a contributor). Great minds",
"#psychos",
"Yes thats the same as using the same political slogans to discredit the free press.\n\nPathetic deflect attempt is unsuccessful",
"Is this a contest for the dumbest Republican...surely you folks can't get any worse",
"When we see real fake news and debunk it are we Hitlers as well?",
"I voted for Bernie. Nice try though. ",
">I wonder if anyone will actually address the journalist bias that exists outside the FoxNews media bubble\n\nLearn 2 read? Literally the first thing he says. Outside of Fox News and their ilk, journalists are biased.",
"The point is he DIDNT pour the food in first like CNN portrayed him to have done. They deliberately lied and twisted the story (and even zoomed into trump to not show Moon pouring his fish food first). Deliberately lying to control a narrative is the very definition of fake news. ",
"Yeah just casual dog whistling. Let me guess these are “shit hole” countries? Smh. ",
">I was specifically referring to CNN, MSNBC, The Washington Post, and other previously reputable news sources as being the culprits of spreading mis and disinformation.\n\nHave any sources or evidence of this?\n\nWhile I agree that CNN and MSNBC haven’t been the epitome of journalism lately, they do retract false stories and publish corrections. CNN even went as far as firing the writers of false, misleading, and unverified stories.\n\n>their ideological agenda positively drips from their articles and the people they hire.\n\nEveryone has a bias. The trick is to check your sources and if there is spin to identify it and acknowledge it. Factually the story should be correct if it is from a reputable outlet because they have editors who’s job it is to make sure what they publish is factually correct. If they didn’t have these checks, they wouldn’t be considered reputable.\n\n>alternative media is the future.\n\nThis is where we disagree completely. You are concerned about people only reading headlines while the story says something completely different, while alternative media requires you to dig even deeper than that. When you stray from mainstream media outlets, you have to check the source on every piece of information you read, what would normally be an editor’s job. While checking your sources should be done regardless of where you receive your information, unchecked and unproven news outlets open more channels for actual fake news and more clickbait.",
"Exactly what I thought. Deflect and project.\n\nHow does needing evidence to believe something make me a troll? ",
"blomprf literolly hitlor",
"What about all the instances where the press has fabricated stories or \"facts\" or has been caught falling over itself to contradict or downplay issues of fact that the press itself previously reported?",
"Exactly? I don’t see a contradiction there. I said I oppose Stalin and his apologists, the tankies.",
"You guys deny basic science gtfo lol\n\n",
"Im sure you did buddy",
"lool a series of insults.\n\nYou are bigoted against those with a conservative ideology.",
"hell, i would say that ph doesn’t ban people for defending trump that much, but the moment the discussion doesn’t go their way, the post gets locked. at least in ca you can still engage with different opinions after the post starts to get popular. ",
"Him working as an actor means he's an actor. This doesn't prove he's a 'paid actor'. Is any actor who commits a crime a 'paid actor' for some political party now? Are garbage men who commit crimes covering up evidence?",
"You bet",
"Well I hope you are wrong, because otherwise most people are retarded. ",
"Idk lile every major news organizations ratings are up and their all shitting on him. I think the main issue with Hitler was that he actually had critical journalists killed. ",
"Hmmm... sounds kind of familiar...",
"Is full retard denying basic science as party line?\n\nOnly republicans have gone \"full retard\"",
"And the on the shelf ones are limited in speed, and altitude.\n\nAt over 1900Km/hour, or over 18Km GPS stops tracking. Modern ICBMs hit 6000-7000 Km/h.\n\nSome fighter jets can even hit 2500Km/h. Meaning the missile would need to fly so slow it could be shot down if intercepted. And that's not even using missile systems. \n\nKeep in mind that GPS is a client side technology that needs to do a lot of math, even when just driving a car. Going at those speeds, and wanting to keep accuracy, is going to require computer hardware that NK can't make. And possibly can't import.",
"They objectively do, fox is a propaganda rag",
"Sorry snowflake, I am not tolerant of your intolerance. Feel free to keep whining though otherwise your safe space is always there for you. QQ :(",
"I like how that innocently says 'Why?' as if they have never heard of the abomination of 18-case Hungarian. ",
"The missile needs to make it across an ocean, not losing its way due to wind and air abnormalities. It would most likely just crash into the ocean.",
"Why are you bringing basic science into this? We were talking about fake news\n\nWhat drugs are you on? I want some ",
"GORNSLLLLDDD GLOOOOOMMMPPPFFFF DAMN YOU TWO SCOOP DEMON ORANGE HITLERRR ",
"See its relevant because you guys hilariously see yourselves as logical, but you deny basic science as party line which shows this is not true.",
"The danger isn't even missiles. There are anti missile defences, that while are simply just a numbers game technology, should work against a low amount of missiles. That's why Russia and America has literally hundreds of missiles during the cold war. 80% would get shot down in a MAD situation. \n\nNK would be stressed to make 3.",
"So what's an example of a piece of false information that would have been stopped by this change?",
"> Yes, Communism was active much longer. I don't really understand what your point is.\n\nThey had much more time to kill people. Also: China and the USSR have more people than Europe excluding the Soviet States. So it is to be expected that the numbers are higher. There is no magical formula to compensate for all these different factors. Thus, raw body count is not a good measurement for regime cruelty.\n\n> The outcomes were the same.\n\nNot really, and certainly not by the standards you apply above. There are differences, certainly in number of people killed. E.g., the communist states in Eastern Europe and Cuba are much lower on the list than e.g. the USSR, China and Cambodia.\n\nBut yes, communism can't seem to avoid dictatorship and mass murder, completely true. My point is that you can't say if fascism or communism is worse.",
"My point is the comparison is overused, cheap, easy and intellectually lazy to make. Comparing Trump and other presidents to Hitler diminishes the evil that Hitler was. ",
"It's resulted in convictions and indictments of the Trump campaign's top people. If that's \"weak\" then you need to reevaluate your position because you're living in an alternate reality. \n",
"I think you mean used exact same slogan as nazi party against free press.\n\nBefore you had a stroke anticipating losing the argument as usual.",
"Sooooo where's the crime then?\n\n There's nothing illegal about Facebook, an AMERICAN company taking money to run ads that they knew were Russian.\n\nIf anything Facebook should be the one getting the blame. If what you say is true.",
"Yeah never go full retard\n\nI'm not even american you idiot. Keep yourself in check buddy ",
"The Bolshevik revolution (Octoberrevolution) happened in, as the name suggests, November of 1917. Nazi rule began in early 1933, so it's 16 years. But that is besides the point.\n\nThe fact that Germany's actions in WW2 spread communism through eastern europe is not a particularly noteworthy claim - the soviet sphere of influence grew greatly in eastern europe as a direct consequence of ww2. An irony which is often pointed out concerning Hitler's goal of defending europe from Bolshevism (\"He took the strongest power on the european mainland to fight bolshevism, and left it the 5th strongest in Berlin, surrounded by bolshevik countries\", is roughly how it goes).\n\nThat is what I meant. Funnily enough, your criticism would also be debatable had I meant it as some Trumpian \"Obama is the founder of ISIS\" meme: When the February Revolution of 1917 broke out, Lenin was in Switzerland, which as you are probably aware, was neutral in WW1, but surrounded by belligerent nations of both sides, landlocked, and blocked from russia (fighting on the entente side) by the empires of Germany and Austria-Hungary (both constituting 2/3rds of the Central Powers). So the german OHL allowed Lenin to pass through germany, hoping he would stir up shit some more. Which he did when he took power with the bolsheviki in november, making good on the promise of PEACE the Kerenski government failed to deliver, leading to the treaty of Brest-Litovsk (tyrannical peace dicated by germany), indeed freeing up the eastern front for the OHL to throw one last haymaker at the Entente - the 100 days offensive.\n\nThat whole narrative is what some people hold to be true, I don't (too much \"Great Men\" history to lay so much on the role of Lenin)\n\n>Death tolls are probably the best empirical metric for measuring evil. Do you have another metric to measure by?\n\nIntent, as most people would intuitively agree that trying to murder a person, then murdering them is worse than backing out of a driveway and unintentionally running someone over, in turn leading to their death. The juridicial systems of western states allows for this distinction as well, of course. The Nazis did evil things for statedly evil reasons, there really is no debate about it. The Soviets did things ranging from being straight evil to being-neglecting-to-the-point-of-it-being indistinguishable-from-being-evil, trying to achieve an utopian society. This does, for most people, again make a qualitative difference in the same or a similar way.\n\n If it did not, making morality a case of death tolls and nothing else, the Taiping rebellion, killing IIRC 150 million would be the most evil event/movement, arguably empire, in the history of the world *anyway*, but that isn't and wasn't what this whole conversation is about.\n\nThere is also a few issues to death tolls as a metric anyway: The Soviet Union existed from 1917 to 1989, the Third Reich from 1933 to 1945. How high of a % of the people, \"accesible\" both temporally and in terms of space did the Soviet Union kill? Is it a per year thing? Do we count Soviet soldiers falling in battle against Germany as victims of the soviet regime, or the german one? The 50 millions you referenced earlier, often attributed to Stalin alone to make precisely this point, does memes like that to achieve that number by the way.\n\nSo even if we *were* to accept death tolls as on objective measure of evilness, by any reasonable method of applying that standard the Nazis may still come out ahead anyway.\n\nThis really is a meta-ethical debate, though. And I need to add: I'm in no way a soviet apologist , I'm just tired of people downplaying how god-damn evil the Nazis were out of ignorance or intellectual laziness.",
"For the last decade leftists have been fermenting distrust in media by saying it's all corporatism. Now these same corporations are your whistleblowers speaking truth to power. Get some consistency and principles instead of blowing around in the wind.\n\nThere is such a thing as fake news. If Trump actually starts attacking the press as an institution needing to be removed then that's something to be concerned about. If he's calling out shabby journalists, then whatever, because the journalist can still fire back.",
">~~That didn't happen.~~\n\n>~~And if it did, it wasn't that bad.~~\n\n>~~And if it was, that's not a big deal.~~\n\n>And if it is, that's not my fault. **<---You backtracked to here**\n\n>And if it was, I didn't mean it.\n\n>And if I did...\n\n>You deserved it.",
"Done and done, now to wait a week so I dont get called out for stealing ideas.",
"He's the worst but I actually love the staff. If you peer behind the smoke and mirrors of the social white house drama and look at what the government has really been doing, I am pretty content with the DonTron.",
"Yup. That's why I frequent it. I bleed Communist red, and have been banned from Latestagecapitalism, Socialism, FullCommunism, and I think 2 others.\n\nWeird how the left is more ban happy than the right...",
"But, but, but, reddit tells me that conservative presidents from 40 years ago would be far left today?!",
"The point is the breakdown of norms and the checks/balances of the other branches not doing their job. The government exists in it's form because we all agree to abide by it. Trump has ignored multiple norms and committed multiple infractions that would've taken down any other president. If he defies the rule of law and then Congress & the Supreme Court don't stop him, then he is effectively a dictator.",
"I dont deny science as party line, thats republican territory : )",
"a few indictments and no arrests, whoopteedoo. None of which has anything to do with Trump himself, and if you think there aren't people in Clinton's camp or even tied to it that deserve indictments and possibly arrest as well, then you my friend are living in an alternate reality.\n\nWeird how I could guess what camp you were in like that, eh?",
"No instead you're a parrot that can only talk about one thing? ",
">Shortly after the US election result there was this mad screaming about 'Fake News', It didn't seem to be a priority during the election, but after it, people were talking about altering social media algorithms and coding 'lie-detectors' in to feeds to suppress the fake news.\n\nAgain, you're ignoring the parts of the story that makes the current use less positive for the right-wing side, and more negative for the left-wing. There _clearly was_ a lot of blatantly fake \"news\" websites and articles that were anti-Democrat and anti-Hillary, and many of them _have_ been undeniably tied to Russia in various ways. Then there were a few left-wing sources that wrote a few sites that tried to, I don't know, \"trap\" conservatives into believing them so they could be made to look like fools later... That was all in the early days, though. Once it came to election time, the actual fake news was pretty much all conservative. Breitbart is far from the only source, but it became one of the most known, and it _continues_ to spread blatantly fake stories posing as \"news\", which are then picked up and filtered through more respected sources, like Fox News.\n\n>Trump said hang-on a minute, it's all well and good laying the blame, but sort your own house out before pointing the finger. \n\nNo, Trump simply jumped on the train and went all-in on the \"fake news\" slogan. All he did was accuse _every single article_ that was negative about him of being \"fake news\". Literally, that's it. Every single polling that didn't show him winning was \"fake news\", every single article detailing his sexism was \"fake news\", every single exposé about his ties to Russia were \"fake news\". He _immediately_ dismissed entire networks and newspapers as \"fake news\" despite them being some of the most honest and most respected in the business. All the while he is blatantly lying himself about the most stupid things. A person who calls CNN \"fake news\" and then claims he had more people at his inauguration than Obama _does not_ get to claim hypocrisy on behalf of others.\n\n>I understand extremely transparent literal fake news was spread by both sides, but then to use it as a means to seemingly attack free speech was scary.\n\nNo one's attacking free speech except Trump. Your speech may be free, but that _does not_ automatically make it free from consequences, such as people calling it out for being lies. Trump, on the other hand, both as candidate and later president, has been _openly_ calling for the literal ending of the free speech rights of, for example, the NY Times and CNN.\n\n>Look at the post we're commenting under. It's a picture that yet again basically say 'Literally Hitler'. Trump is not literally Hitler, where is the algorithm to suppress this literal 'FAKE NEWS'? \n\nExcept, it's not actually saying that, is it? It's making a comparison, and a comparison _does not_ always automatically mean an equality. I can _compare_ someone to a summer's day, that doesn't mean I'm _literally saying_ they are the weather of a given day during the summer. She's _comparing_ him to Hitler by showing the similarities, which is fair game (and falls under free speech, mind you). There are a lot of those similarities to show. What should worry you is _not_ that people are showing those similarities, but why there are so many of them to show, and why they are so relevant to what's happening around us.\n\n>Trump using the term Fake News against main stream media isn't a direct comparison to actual fake news, he is merely pointing out their hypocrisy.\n\nDo you _honestly_ believe that? That the person who has lied 2000 times, on the record, in a year is actually the right person to call out someone else's purported hypocrisy? He's been calling the NY Times \"the failing NY Times\" for quite a while now, and yet, the objective truth is that the NY Times is doing better than before, their readership is up, and there is no single sign whatsoever they are anywhere near \"failure\". Again, it's a bit rich to have that constant claim coming from someone who is, supposedly, \"merely pointing out their hypocrisy\".\n\nHe's not pointing out anyone's hypocrisy but his own. By every metric, what Trump wants is to be allowed to dictate what is real and what isn't, without anyone being allowed to question him. That's why he lies about real, objective facts, that's why he namecalls his enemies when he has no real arguments, and that's why he's afraid of holding his own press conferences.\n\nHe could have his own self speaking his own words, on record, for anyone to see and hear without distortion or misrepresentation, but he _insists_ on filtering himself through the same media he consistently blames for distorting and misrepresenting him. Either he's a blatant liar, or he's a massive idiot, or both.\n\nNone of this makes him \"literally Hitler\", because he's not. He _is_ a lot _like_ Hitler in a number of concerning ways, however. And let me ask you this: if the worst thing people had done to stop the real, actual Hitler from coming to power was openly comparing him to some previous homicidal despot, would you rather they had been quiet and Hitler be allowed to proceed as he did? And when good, strong leaders have been called \"Hitler\" (like so many right-wing conservatives called Obama during his years...), they always come out unscathed because they have the objective truth on their side. If Trump is a good, strong leader, then he has nothing to be afraid of. The fact that he _is_ so afraid, and shows it so openly, is only yet another reason to speak out that much louder against him and all the ways he resembles history's past mistakes.",
"Generally speaking, it will probably be easier for celebrities to legally dispute false claims made by tabloids and even major news networks.",
">bleed communist red\n\n>banned by most popular communist subs\n\nhow??",
"I never back tracked. You're making stuff up.\n\nWhat positives has anyone ever said about Trump? The only one I can think of is that he would build a wall. And even that is half satire. \n\nIf anything, it's easier to talk shit about Trump than Clinton. And it has been for the past 2 years.\n\nSo where are these so called ads, that influenced pubic opinion so much, to change a 97% lead into a loss?\n\nhttps://www.cnbc.com/video/2016/10/18/probability-of-a-clinton-win-is-97-academic.html\n\nThey never existed.",
"Congratulations on moving the goal posts! We went from the media accusing Trump of *sympathizing* with anti-Semites to accusing Trump of *being* an anti-Semite. I don't recall the AP headline declaring \"Trump is anti-Semitic\". I do remember them accurately reporting the fact that he refused to disavow a well known former KKK grand master.\n\nMaybe the problem isn't the messenger...",
"I’m saying that the comparison of Trump to Hitler is not only a far stretch, but also completely counterproductive! If you believe that Trump is truly a threat to our democracy that says a lot about your belief in the strength of it to start. \n\nYou also completely misunderstand the intentions of most of the people that voted for him, which is to return to a smaller federal government with less interference in people’s everyday lives. \n\nYour blind ideological dedication to the left has tainted your ability to look objectively at Trump and his supporters.\n\nAnd the fact that more and more information is coming out about the Obama administrations abuse of FISA courts to spy on Trump, the DNC shutting out Bernie and the DOJ and FBI being weaponized to attack political enemies... seems there may be more correlations between Obama and Hitler that Trump and Hitler\n\n",
"I don't ever stalk people's profile. The dude claims to be from Africa. He's probably Muslim. Curiosity got the best of me and I just checked. Apparently he is. Not surprised at some mild antisemitism. Those cultures have been clashing forever. ",
"yes",
"Do you support all the deaths under communism?",
"EXACTLY.\n\nI voted for Trump. Would vote for him again in a heartbeat as the less smellier of two shits. It's pathetic how all these people who hate him with a passion make themselves look like total morons by spreading all of this unchecked ludicrous criticism of him. If they really want to \"take him down\" then they would stop acting like such lunatics and actually figure their own shit out.",
"I'm in the process of becoming a correctional officer, I believe sex and gender are intertwined, I believe in 2 genders.\n\nThat's the left for you.",
">The media may twist things or sensationalize them to get readers but it's their job to report facts.\n\nWhen you're twisting things to such a degree that you give people completely inaccurate impressions of the truth, then you aren't just \"reporting facts\"... you are lying.\n\nOne of the most stunning examples of this I remember was Trump's comments about PTSD during that town hall for veterans.\n\n[Here's a slightly abridged video of those comments.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJx03GPYkCo) And here's the actual transcript:\n\n>Robichaux: Good morning Mr. Trump. As you mentioned there is a tragic suicide epidemic among our veterans, among our military and their families. While the military and the V.A. are working on the problem, their efforts continue to fall short. There are a number of faith-based programs outside the DOD and the V.A., that are continuing to be successful in stopping suicide and divorce rates.\n\n>Spiritual fitness works on these types of problems. The government is not taking advantage of these programs and services. So my question for you is, when you become president, will you support and fund a more holistic approach to solve the problems and issues of veteran suicide, PTSD, TBI and other related military mental and behavioral health issues and will you take steps to restore the historic role of our Chaplains and the importance of spiritual fitness and spiritual resiliency programs?\n\n>Trump: Yes I would. Look we need that so badly and when you… when you talk about the mental health problems, when people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over and you’re strong and you can handle it. But a lot of people can’t handle it. And they see horror stories. They see events that you couldn’t see in a movie, nobody would believe it.\n\n>Now we need a mental health help and medical. And it’s one of the things that I think is least addressed and is one of the things that — like your question — one of the things that I hear the most about when I go around and talk to the veterans. So we’re going to have a very, very robust, level of performance having to do with mental health. We are losing so many great people that can be taken care of if they have proper care.\n\n>You know when you hear the 22 suicides a day it’s a big part of your question. But when you hear the 22 suicides a day that should never be. That should never be. So we’re going to be addressing that very strongly and the whole mental health issue is going to be a very important issue when I take over and the V.A. is going to be fixed in so many ways but that’s going to be one of the ways we’re going to help.\n\n>And that’s in many respects going to be the number one thing we have to do. Because I think it’s really been left behind. OK? Thank you very much.\n\nNow, in both the transcript, and in the video, he sounds like he's genuinely empathetic and really cares about this issue. That being said, there's plenty to criticize. He didn't actually answer her specific question about getting Chaplains involved and introducing faith-based programs. What's more, he really didn't offer anything but platitudes, with no actual policy ideas on solving the problem. It's since been taken down, but his website during the campaign had a fairly long, detailed section reforming the VA, but even that didn't mention PTSD or mental health in general. \n\nWas any of this the mainstream media's take on his comments? No. Instead we got headlines like [**Trump suggests military members with mental health issues aren’t ‘strong’ and ‘can’t handle it’**.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/03/trump-suggests-military-members-with-mental-health-issues-arent-strong-and-cant-handle-it/?utm_term=.f3762f594af8) Are you fucking shitting me? This is a flagrant distortion of what he actually said, its basically 180 degrees from the impression anyone actually watching would have gotten. And it proves him right: the media really is completely full of shit. The media being full of shit isn't just unfair to him though, its unfair to everyone. There's no discussion of policy ideas (or the lack thereof), its just fucking clickbait, and clickbait doesn't actually sway people's opinions. And Trump's attacks on the media wouldn't have any credence if they weren't doing shit like this constantly.",
"If you truly believe in the media, even before Trump ran, you're a fucking moron. Lol.\n\nI was 18 when Obama was first elected and even I was able to see then how skewed the news was. Get a grip\n",
"So Hillary really had 98% chance of winning the election?",
"That’s the comparison to hitler? Try again.....",
"Lol bro, I can repeat as much as you like.\n\nThe fact you deny basic science as party line debunks any credibility you guys have as \"logical\".\n\nIm here if you need more help.",
"I don't think you understand what retractions are or why they are important. They aren't for \"sensational headlines\". They are for when you misreport *facts* in articles and interviews. When you don't admit when you *do* get facts wrong, *all* of your facts are suspect. \n \nYour hypothetical is seriously lacking in self-awareness... as Fox's entire business model is now to say anything they want and assume that no one will verify it's accuracy. It's not a \"mistake\" to them, it's a feature. So, when Fox literally did exactly as you claimed CNN might and \"reported\" about things like Pizzagate... who's failure was it that their viewers ate it up without question?\n \nIt's on you to find out who is telling you the truth and it's on them to admit when they haven't. If you won't seek truth then you will be uninformed, if they don't admit fault then they will be unreliable. Why is it only a right-wing media outlet that requires uninformed viewers to accept unreliable information?",
"Think you meant to reply to the other guy since not the male feminist.",
"Any chance you have a link to that AMA? I would love to read through it.",
"There’s so much hate between liberals and conservatives right now it’s crazy. What’s with all the name calling and finger pointing on both sides? The problems in America aren’t caused by us regular people, it’s our shitty politicians who are owned by their donors. What’s so sad is there’s plenty we can all agree on!\n\nOur infrastructure gets a grade of D+. Doesn’t everyone want to improve that? Why does party affiliation matter when we have an issue that we both want fixed? \n\nMarijuana legalization. There is overwhelming support for this in *both* parties. So why is it still illegal federally? It’s because we the people aren’t the ones who’s opinions matter. \n\nWe’re so accustomed to blaming the other that we can’t see who’s really pulling the strings. It sucks because what we need are populist policies, but because our anger is redirected, we don’t even realize that we agree on a lot. There’s so many bullshit issues being talked about like the Russia stuff, or safe spaces, or is it ok for the president to curse, or this fake news name calling. It’s ok to have opinions on these things but they’re being used to wedge us apart and see each other as enemies when there’s so much more important stuff to worry about. ",
"\"you dont like how the left is behaving you must be trying to manipulate the conversation.\"",
"I don't\n\nYou're retarded ",
"Sounds like a member of the AfD",
">Nazis passed legislation to protect animals native to Germany. Are we Nazis whenever we pass legislation to protect animals?\n\n>Nazis passed anti tabaco laws. Nazis had a huge public welfare program. When legislation is passed for welfare, are those people Nazis? \n\nWe are on the same team here, but you’re still missing the point.\n\n“Lügenpresse” and “fake news” are obviously very similar rhetoric. If there is a more applicable example than comparing “fake news” to “Lügenpresse”, I would love to hear it.\n\n>Discrediting the media is a dangerous thing a politician can do because it skews our perception, not because the Nazis also did it. \n\nAbsolutely agree.",
"> to change a 97% lead into a loss?\n\nHillary **never** had a 97% lead - not even in DC was she leading by that much, lol. I think she might have led Trump by that much if you only count black female voters. You are confusing win chance with lead - they are **not** the same thing.\n\nHillary had a 3% lead in national polls. She had a lead within the margin of error in several states that shifted to Trump, such that about 100k votes in specific states swung the EC to Trump. \n\nI can't possibly list you the nearly $100 million dollars worth of ads Hillary and Trump purchased on facebook alone. Not sure why you think it was a single ad, it's like believing Hillary had a 97% lead - just a failure of understanding simple concepts.",
"How kind of you.",
"I appreciate what you are saying but I think you take for granted that you can always use the past to judge the future. ",
"Well...there is a a difference. The news actually does lie about trump and tries to skew everything in a negative light for trump...???",
"I don’t care what you compare it to, just don’t do it to Nazis. It’s automatically disregarded by the opposing person in an argument. It’s an easy comparison to make and everyone makes it for everything they don’t like, it doesn’t have an impact. ",
"If you're learning German and you're just learning that rule because of a reddit comment you're doing something wrong. Might want to get a different teacher/book",
"Until the last couple of years when there was an uptick. Did you not read it through?",
"“Those who watch Fox News and those who read The New York Times occupy completely different realities\" -Obama\n\nObama has a few quotes low key taking jabs at Fox (rightfully so, they are biased as hell) Trump is just more forthright about it. Personally I am of the opinion that there really isnt cable news anymore. There are politically motivated channels that happen to show current events. I think local news is about as close as you can get.",
"Nah Hitler was capable and smart and actually qualified for his job. Trump couldn't find his own asshole with both hands and a map.",
"Lol great rebuttal, I bet it worked when you practiced it in the mirror",
"I had heard about this study, but I had never read it (well, a summary of it until now. I lean left and was a huge fan of Stewart's Daily Show. My dad on the other hand leans pretty far right on most things and watches Fox News religiously. I have always \"felt\" like this was true, but didnt have any tangible evidence with which to argue. So I have kept it to myself, even when he would make comments about how I'm the one who has been brainwashed. And, you could argue, if he was right, and I was being brainwashed, wouldn't I be the ***last*** to know it? (I'll still keep it to myself, because my relationship with him is worth more than being right)\n\nBetween Fox and Stewart, I think it comes down to honesty. Yes, Stewart is on the right, but he presented those views honestly and would immediately rescind anything that turned out not to be true (which was rare). Fox, though, often presents right wing opinions in a very dishonest way, either by gross exaggeration, out right lying, or somewhere in between. For a notable (and humorous) example, you don't have to look any further than this apparent \"war on christmas\" we've all been told is being waged (while at the same time we all bitch about people putting Christmas lights up to nearly and leaving them up too long, and that Christmas shopping/advertising, I'm told, starts earlier each year).\n\nFox pundits seemed to be very aware of this fact. They would often call him out for lying on their own show, he would say \"show me evidence and I'll admit I'm wrong.\" Then ... nothing. Or he would say something like \"okay, invite me on your show and we can debate it there.\" Very rarely did anyone from Fox take him up on this offer/challenge, especially in front of their own audience. Look at the aftermath of his 2004 Crossfire appearance - CNN cut ties with the show and the commentators only 2 months later. (Although, the degree to which Stewart's appearance influenced the split up, I will admit, is up for debate.)\n\nThe notable exception to this was of course Bill O'Reilly. And I'm not saying pundits never agreed to come on his show or anything - they definitely did, but it seemed at times they were just desperate to get something on him, but they very rarely had anything of substance, whereas Jon's show, backed up by facts, featured Fox News stuff.\n\nTo be clear, I don't believe one study \"proves\" I'm right, but it does lend some credibility to what was originally just a gut feeling.",
"From the article on cnn.com:\nhttp://www.cnn.com/2017/11/06/politics/donald-trump-koi-pond-japan/index.html\n\n'The move got Trump some laughs, and a smile from Abe, who actually appeared to dump out his box of food ahead of Trump'\n\nIdk if that constitutes 'deliberately lying to control a narrative'. \n\nThis just sounds like some school yard BS. Who cares who did it first, as long as everybody was OK with it? It's not like their reporting that 'Trump kicked out of Japan, disrespected culture'.",
"Just because some extreme leftists take opinions to extreme doesn’t change my opinions . If someone thinking the same thing but taking it too far changes your mind then that’s silly \n\nYou not taking it to the extreme already is distance \n\n",
"it’s like they have no self awareness about how people like to make fun of them for doing this shit. instead of proving them wrong they prove them right.",
"There are numerous graphs showing the uptick. I just double checked and that particular sentence just says \"hate groups\" but the vast majority of those are neonazi, skinhead, white supremacist, or some variation.",
"Cult of personality. It has empowered some of the worst monsters of the modern era.",
"",
"Nah it's more that I couldn't remember off the top of my head if it was correct or not",
"Nice retort. Can't come up with a good counterpoint so you just return to ridicule.",
"I'm a young guy who's spent a lot of time working in tourist towns with young people. I'm a university student as well. Safe to say, I'm around a lot of party people, some with less moral foundations, and nobody says anything to the extent of \"I can just grab people by the genitals because of my status\" lmao.\n\nSure, we all fuck around and maybe say some dark things with each other. THAT is locker room talk. Trump wasn't in a locker room. He was obviously being for serious.",
"So what are you on? You're pretty incoherent ",
"https://www.thedailybeast.com/colorado-walmart-killer-lived-alone-with-a-stack-of-bibles-and-no-furniture\n\nwhat in the flying fuck does this have anything to do with right and left lmfao holy shit.. Your comment doesnt even dictate any more of a response, you are painting your own picture of what you think the other side is. Dont worry about the Berkeley riots where innocent people wearing hats saying \"make bitcoin great again\" were attacked. Maybe the world is as crazy as it is because people like you cannot even realize that both sides have insane people who are blind to the fact that they are causing more bad than good, but maybe you cant see that because you are one of those people..",
"Talking about dirty stuff is normal, bragging bout being able to grab someone's genitals without any kind of consent first because you assume they'll let you do it based on your status is not normal.",
"That’s not realllll socialism! I mean cmon guys! *REEEE*al socialism hasn’t truly been implemented and when it is it’ll be super successful right bros?!",
"> what in the flying fuck does this have anything to do with right and left lmfao holy shit..\n\nHe targeted Mexicans only during the shooting cause Trump and supply-side Jesus told him they are the bad guys. He was a white supremacist, his neighbors said he would only speak to white people, as it says in the article you didn't read.",
"The population game is a cop out I think. You have Pol Pot who killed 3 million, out of a 9 million population. Yes, there are instances where the later Soviet states in Eastern Europe didn't suffer from genocidal numbers of death, but they were still dying from starvation. Economic distress can cause societal problems that we in the \"Western World\" have a hard time comprehending. Eastern European states are known for sex traffic among other things.\n\nI was only trying to point out that there is a culture of Communism that is growing here in the United States, especially on college campuses and on the far left. It seems like everywhere Communism has been tried, it results in the fall of the state and misery among its people, whether that be with mass genocide, starvation, economic trouble, the list goes on... \n\nAnd no one seems to care that these things are true or worse don't even know. I don't understand how this can happen, especially in a place of so called learning. I refuse to believe its a more sinister motive, and just a lack of knowledge or curiosity.\n\nEdit: Pol Pot numbers were wrong. Corrected them.",
"Lol well what do you expect? Reddit as a whole tends to lean more left than right. It's like going to a Cubs game in Chicago and complaining that their are too many Cubs fans in the stands. My above comment was referring the internet as a whole and that is not bullshit.",
"Nah, I’m not the one full of hatred for people who have different opinions than me. But if you want to pity me rather than hate me, that’s cool. Probably better for your mental health.",
"The NRA isn't pushing violence... What the hell? And evangelicals have been evangelicals for years. ",
"He was not elected Von Hindenburg won the Presidential election of 1932, those were the last legitimate national elections in Germany prior to WW2",
"Yes, that was a typo. Should have read anti-socialist. Thanks. ",
"I think you missed the part where he was clearly making a joke.\n\nReally though? You hear guys on your shop floor bragging about grabbing women's vaginas without prior consent because they assume the girl will let them do it? That goes beyond locker room talk, that's admitting sexual assault.",
"If you want to call things for what they are sure, lets do it then.\n\n>He's talked about supporting a fucking Muslim Registry (Forcing a religious group to identify themselves sounds familiar doesn't it?)\n\nOh yeah, and the fact that part of their religion is \"killing the infidels\" just happened to miss you? \n\nLets say there is a group in the EU and one of their beliefs is killing black people, would you then be ok with letting them in because \"not every one of them killed a black person\" even though a lot of them think its justified and 2/3rds said that they wouldn't report a killing of a black person?\n\nWould you then be ok with letting them in? Or would you say that you want to let them in but they are a part of a violent group and its too much of a risk? \n\nI know a lot of young ones don't have a choice, they get born into a muslim family and there isn't much they can do about it. But the adults willingly chose to follow this religion and hold these beliefs and sorry but in my opinion if you think that I should be killed for my sexual orientation or my beliefs you can fuck right off.",
"Is that a real question? Of course not",
"I think you provided an example rather than a definition..",
"You don't think white people have ever committed rape before or illegally crossed borders? Do you think in this case then it is fair to say all white people are rapists?",
"weird I don't remember saying that",
"I like how the media has free reign to publish as many lies and propaganda as they want, but when someone calls them out on it they're Hitler.\n\nAccuse the enemy of exactly what you're doing.",
"No way, CNN put out the correct video after being called out? Shocking. https://www.mediaite.com/online/fact-check-twitter-loses-it-over-trumps-fish-feeding-method-but-japans-pm-dumped-food-first/ there's the original video CNN used. They even deleted the tweet they made after being exposed. \n\nPlease don't fall head over heels and believe 100% of what the news tells you. ",
"> I think liberals got manipulated \n\n> Obama, Soros, and Clinton are the most recognized figures\n\nYou have been manipulated, dum dum.",
"All I'll say is, it's hard to find a policy position of Trump's that wasn't also a policy position of Bill Clinton. ",
"We’re not talking about people quoting trump word for word. We’re simply refuting that guys point that nobody ever talks dirty and says some unwholesome things. I even said at the bottom if you’re actually bragging about assault that it’s different. If the guy was making a joke it was a shitty one. Context.",
"In no way am I going to be defending Hitler or Nazi movement. But people who think WWII is the end-all-be-all of the rhetoric is being short sighted. America, England, Any other large powerful country has done more than its fair share of evil. The difference is we are blinded by the stories of glory, of freedom, of righteousness, that we who live in these countries are blinded to the truth.\n\nThe people and man may be bad, but they were but a moment in time we remember. Imagine all the things we collectively have forgotten.\n\nJust because a bad person or bad group of people say something, doesn't mean it's not true. And in the case of Trump, the enemy (the media) of our enemy (trump) is not our friend.\n\ntl;dr\n\nDon't liken simple quotes to being bad because bad ppl said em. Truth can only be what it is.",
"The courts has tried their damnest to try to slow Trump down. Unfortunately the higher courts ruled that Trump was within his power to do those actions because there was already a precedence for it. Most of Trumps promises can be done by the president. Apparently it's not ok for Trump to do some of the shit he has done although it was ok for past presidents to so. If there is one branch of the government that is not working I would say its the legislative branch. Congress can die for all I care because they are so incompetent that only care for their reelections and hardly do any work.",
"Leftists must get aroused by labeling someone a nazi.",
"It's not a matter of believing all the media or none of the media. That's truly moronic. ",
"OMG that's soooooo witty!!",
"actually I did read it and Ill ask you again, what in the flying fuck does this have to do with politics. It literally mentions 0 times that this was politically motivated..",
"K",
"The post doesn't claim Trump is literally Hitler, it just illustrates a similarity in the rhetoric. It's a legitimate comparison. ",
"Yeah, because you were dismissing a massive group of people. Basically I came in on the side of 90% of voters (left, right and center) and you are the asshole who is trying to feel like you are getting harassed.\n\nI didn't take a side, all I said is that you are shitting on people who view things differently. Hopefully you can recover from getting called out on your blanket statement. ",
"I mean you keep hammering on fox like they’re relevant to this discussion when they’re not. All news should be free of bias if they ever make claims of being unbiased, and I’m pretty sure no major news network declares bias so they’re all bullshit. And when they show bias and start slandering anybody (especially the head of the government) that person has the right to defend them self and set the record straight. \n\nAnd none of this is about you or I, it is about the general public. The general public reads headlines and does not hear about retractions. The general public does not research fantastical claims, they either choose to believe or not believe. The general public has no idea if the news they’re seeing is reliable. That’s why the people that DO know need to be louder when a major news outlet is being dishonest or misleading. Agree with their existence or not or who they came from, the fakeys are pretty spot on at calling out bullshit attempts at undermining our democracy.",
"You don't know what white supremacy has to do with right wing terrorism? Have you been asleep for the last few years?",
"Sadly there was some Democrat who actually manufactured a lot of the pro-Trump, Anti-Hillary fake news leading up to the election.\n\nI think he ended up killing himself",
"Better check your calendar.",
">Hitler started out looking a lot like trump does now.\n\nNo he did not. Not at all. Not even a little bit. If you think otherwise, you are delusional and insane.\n\n>And you dont need to destroy government by killing, you can just de-legitimize and degrade the authority of government, there by destroying it, by simply being an idiot and not knowing how to do the job and making false and irrelevant statements like trump is going now.\n\nYou just said Trump is like Hitler, and now you said something completely different from what Hitler did - that Trump is an idiot who will destroy government with stupidity. THAT statement is both idiotic and contradicts your DRUMPF = HITLUR nonsense.\n\n> It took years of speeches and other propaganda before hitler could get to that point.\n\nTrump is ALREADY President. The Nazis didn't take power, and THEN waste years on speeches. They acted immediately. ",
"> you know ignoring all the other lies he fires off daily that are just as easily debunked.\n\nslippery slope there homecookin'???",
"If I recall correctly the word goes back about a century further. Although without official notation I believe the word first came to the for in the early 19th century.",
"/r/MurderedByWords \n\nYou didn't deserve those downvotes",
"\"If you don't support the same propaganda I do you're literally Hitler\"",
"No shit? Are you fucking dense? Are you new to Reddit or something? This is a predominantly liberal part of the internet. Prior to 2016 Obama was president which would explain why Reddit wasn't adamant about pushing politics. There are other websites you can get the same content from if you need a safe place. You are a perfect candidate for 9gag...",
"Where you at, lil bish?",
"Right, but it's a little self-defeating to see it on a poster like the OP photo. Google trends puts the term \"fake news\" taking off right after the U.S. election in 2016, [spiking upward Nov 6 to Nov 12, 2016](https://trends.google.ca/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%22fake%20news%22) and staying up since then.\n\nWhen you Google search [\"fake news\" from Nov 6 to Nov 12, 2016](https://www.google.ca/search?q=%22fake+news%22&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A11%2F6%2F2016%2Ccd_max%3A11%2F12%2F2016&tbm=), all of the news stories are about how \"fake news\" is what got Trump elected. That is, fake news like \"pizzagate\", [accusations about Facebook sloppiness](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/10/facebook-fake-news-election-conspiracy-theories) helping Trump, about pro-Trump fake news coming from Russia ([or Macedonia](http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/the-surge-of-pro-trump-fake-news-is-coming-from-macedonia/8003094)), and even the effects of [anti-Trump fake news](http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/trump-quote-facebook-trnd/index.html). Even [Obama got in on the topic](http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-fake-news-facebook-creates-dust-cloud-of-nonsense-2016-11).\n\nThat is, the term \"fake news\" was used by anti-Trump press to try to explain how Trump won. It was a term used and owned on the political left at the time, [throughout November 2016](https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/11/11/did-fake-news-on-facebook-send-trump-to-the-white-house/), in all sorts of [left-leaning press](https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/wjpe8b/breitbarts-phony-election-map-shows-how-hard-it-is-to-stamp-out-fake-news). The \"fake news problem\" was something [claimed by Trump critics](https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/solving-the-problem-of-fake-news) against Trump and pro-Trump trolls.\n\nTrump first used the term December 10, 2016 when he tweeted that the CNN story saying he would be working on The Apprentice during his Presidency [was fake news](http://trumptwitterarchive.com/archive/fake%20news%20%7C%7C%20fakenews%20%7C%7C%20fake%20media/ttff/1-19-2017_). You can check his Twitter archive yourself. That was also the [first news item](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/10/trump-celebrity-apprentice-cnn-fake-news) with Trump referring to \"fake news\".\n\nTrump turned the term against CNN and other media critics. But, the term was created by left-leaning critics against him.\n\nSo, if we're going invoke Goodwin's Law by equating Hitler's claims of propaganda \"Lugenpresse\" with somebody, it would necessarily be left-leaning critics that started it, not Trump. Making this sort of comparison is shooting critics in the foot and doesn't help the cause.\n",
"Can we please not trivialize Hitler by comparing him to Trump?",
"How the hell is this downvoted?",
"Oh now I get it. Wow",
"Ü! Not „U“",
"It was sarcasm, dude. ",
"Hitler used propaganda and nationalism the same way trump is. If you cant see any similarities between 2 nationalist leaders, one who was a dictator and one who wants to be, then you are bring naive or lying to yourself. No one is saying they are the exact same, but there are similarities.",
"Re: your second paragraph I think you're wrong. Democrats are weak because they are willing to criticize each other. You are a little delusional if you think most democrats liked Hillary being their only option. She almost lost in her own party's primary to an atheist self described socialist. In America. Yet you manage to twist that into unconditional support. No. It's just that we look at trump and know that it was the right choice at the time. The irony of your accusation is that the GOP is basically what you're describing. Party loyalty above their own ideals.",
"I’m all for that. Unfortunately we have people on the far right in both [Germany and the US](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lying_press) using the actual term “Lügenpresse” in marches and rallies. Like it or not, the comparison is relevant and accurate.",
"Hitler is far left, not right. ",
"Hitler drank water, Obama also drank water, therefore Obama is Hitler.",
"You have to read the article. It's an article lambasting Trump. \n\n> Also, Politifact is critical of president Obama as well as other politicians on the left, so there's reason to be skeptical of allegations that partisan bias impacts their work.\n\n[They aren't unbiased in their checking.](http://thefederalist.com/2016/12/29/politifact-slants-truth-ratings-republicans/)\n\nI posted it as proof that a leftist outpost (Politifact) was using Fake News to denounce Trump. I wasn't posting it as proof that the Left started it. That wasn't the point. Why would a leftist organization point out something the left does? That would come from Right Wing media, right?",
"Making the simple act of questioning an event illegal is a surefire way to make rational folk disbelieve the \"accepted\" viewpoint. Not a single time have I mentioned \"brown people\" but it's odd because the whole thread was about Jewish people, who obviously aren't brown. ",
"It was grand. So many butt hurt democrats. Same ones who must be downvoting us. Only thing that could have made it better was if the Republicans lost too. Such a shame that won't happen",
"The irony here is that the right wing media viewers are in a different world. The spins on news stories are unbelievably bad. \n\n /#SchumerShutdown is a fucking joke. Donald Trump is single-handedly at fault for this government shutdown because he refused to sign a BIPARTISAN bill. For once, Dems and Reps worked together and agreed upon a bill. And Trump shit on it because it didn't have his wall. The fact that Fox news is spinning this as Democrats fault for a shutdown is absurd at the minimum. \n\nThe other thing they're trying to say is Democrats are pushing for \"illegals over veterans!\" Yeah, bullshit. Mitch McConnell himself shot down a bill to continue military paychecks for the shutdown. Democrats are also absolutely not for \"unchecked illegals flowing in.\" If you read the current DACA bill you would know this. There are SO many factors that go into dreamers staying here. So many qualifications. It's hard enough as is for them, Dems are just trying to let them stay. \n\nRight wing media is attrocious. There is so much lying and hard spun bullshit that is easily disproved, but none of their viewers care to check. And if presented with facts, the mental gymnastics to spin it around is Olympic gold medal worthy. \n\nThe \"common sense\" thing that conservatives rant and rave about is so hypocritical it's ludicrous.",
"oh, i know\n\nit was more of a joke than anything",
"The issue is they don't know what they stand for.\n\nSomeone on CA made two accounts, and messaged the mods of LSC, one account said that they were a feminist who likes capitalism, and the other was a Communist that didn't agree with the feminist movement.\n\nThe Capitalist account was told it would be a good fit as long as it didn't talk much on Capitalism, the other one was told they shouldn't use their sub.\n\nThe left has normalized mental issues, and is now having a breakdown. ",
"/r/ShitPoliticsSays",
"No feck ü",
"Are you willfully ignorant or something? Did you even watch the video?\n\nHe starts off talking about a woman he's about to step off the bus and see saying \"I moved on her like a bitch, I couldn't get there, she was married\". He says he needs to take a tic tac in case he starts kissing her because he just automatically does it sometimes, you literally hear the tic tac box lmao. This wasn't just banter lmao.\n\n",
"Yea dude talking about sexual assault makes you such a man! I mean really, it's just taking it back to basics right? Caveman rules motherfuckers!",
"No, if you change the subject from Trump and Hitler's similarities to complaining about Democrats' \"insanity,\" that is obviously trying to manipulate the conversation.\n\nWe aren't talking about Democrats in this thread. Stick to the subject or go somewhere else.",
"Literally all that comment means is that he was wondering if anyone was going to address bias in news OUTSIDE of Fox News, meaning that’s the only context in which they’d talk about it. \n\nMaybe you should take your own advice. ",
"Sorry about my longish rant. It wasn't really directed at you, as I could tell it was joke. If it's any consolation it was a good joke.",
"Fake EUs",
"Well I appreciate your point. Your bit about intent is routed by the age-old expression about the road to hell... Intent is also not an empirical metric. I was also not saying death toll is the only way to measure evilness, but \"probably the best.\" I would suggest that intent is not a good measurement because of its extremely interpretive nature.\n\nI think if we were really going to compare the Nazi regime and the Communist Scourge, there would be tons of categorizations... For instance during the Bolshevik revolution, 1917-1922, there were some 6-14 million dead. The majority of the dead were due to famine, probably... How much evidence do we need that Lenin and the Red Army were responsible for the famine before we include those in the death toll?\n\nI do agree with your larger point, however, the fact that the horrors of communism persisted for 70 years does make it tricky to directly compare... And do we include Communist China and the Great Leap Forward when we compare the greatest evils of modern history?\n\nI also didn't mean to downplay the evilness of the Nazis... Though you're incorrect when you assert that they did evil things for the sake of being evil (humans almost always come up with elaborate systems of justification, the nazis were no different), it's still correct to say they are in the running for the \"Most Evil\" trophy. Just here to say, if we were going to vote on the \"Most Evil Ideology,\" I would be voting for Communism. Just as you indict the Nazis for helping to spread Communism, I would indict the Communists for inciting the rise of the Nazi. The failed communist revolution in Germany was cited by Nazis as they rose to power, repeatedly, as it was proof-positive that the communist threat was real.",
"Because this sub has become a low effort political circle jerk.",
"This sub is turning to Shit with these low effort \"trump is hitler\" post. ",
"You're getting mad at criticism for everything being spammed with anti-Trump content. Remind me who needs a safe space.\n\nIt would be equally obnoxious if the target of this constant agenda pushing was reversed.",
"Sorry mate but this isn't just some random Nazi idea. Cultural bolshevism/marxism is so definitively Nazi. It's a political idea that literally no other political party/movement has ever adopted and was literally invented by the nazis.\n\nI understand people want to push back against using the \"Nazi!!!\" Argument on the internet but this is one of the times when it's completely appropriate.",
"Within the last hundred years. ",
">I'll just quote the article for you since you missed it:\n\nI didn't miss anything. Here is the quote from the lying liberal hacks at the Guardian: \"Pressed on whether his administration would implement a Muslim registry, Trump proceeded to say he “absolutely” would. Politifact suggests he may have been referring at this point to the border wall,\"\n\nSo your own source admits he was referring to the border wall, but let's look at what [politifact actually said:](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/nov/24/donald-trumps-comments-database-american-muslims/)\n>Trump then digressed to talk about a wall along the southern border, before the reporter interjected, \"But that’s something your White House would like to implement.\" \"I would certainly implement that. Absolutely,\" Trump said.\n\nSo he was obviously talking about the Wall. \n\nIt is very easy to try to pull \"gotcha\" quotes on Trump. He talks out of his ass without thinking thinks through or having his guard up for being taken out of context. Everyone knows this. **If Trump actually wanted a Muslim registry, he would clearly and unequivocally shout it from the hilltops** he would not be making ambiguous comments on muddled topics.\n\n>Sure, I'm sure you could find lots of similarities between plenty of right wingers and some of Hitler's ideas. \n\nThe only modern political policy that lines up with the Nazis is liberals wanting to confiscate the guns, like the Nazis did to the Jews so they couldn't defend themselves.\n\n>Well, here's a link where Trump himself campaigns for a 'ban on muslim's entering the US' conveniently before being elected and trying to ban people from majority Muslim countries.\n\nThat's not what he did. He put a temporary ban on a handful of high risk terrorist hotbed countries. The vast majority of muslim countries were unaffected.\n\n>But idk, should I take YOUR word for it or God Emperor's?\n\nNobody should take anything Trump says seriously. Ever. Haven't you learned that by now? He says a lot of shit that has to be walked back or edited or clarified or changed immediately after. He fucking agreed with Diane Feinstein on doing a clean DACA bill, for fucks sake. He says stupid shit that he doesn't mean literally on a daily basis.\n\n>Rhetoric isn't something to worry about?\n\nTrump's rhetoric is not. You are correct. It is so tame and unserious that presenting it as a threat to democracy is idiotic and hyperbolic.",
"just check out his username, obvious bait.",
"Calling news fake has been a political tactic for millenia. It has absolutely nothing to do with the nazis, beyond the fact that they, like so many before them, also did it.\n\nSo many people in this thread *want* Trump to be a nazi, because such a thing would just make it that much easier to be angry.",
"\"They can't prove you wrong if you don't make arguments.\"",
"Brilliant analysis, based on... what, exactly? Extensive understanding of ballistic missiles? Rocketry? Sticking your head up a bull's ass?",
"I think people get a little confused because the parties have changed since the start of the 20th century. For example, Eisenhower started many public works projects, and spoke out against the military-industrial complex. Both of which are considered left views today.",
"Well... I sure hope you're right, but Hitler didn't _start_ by killing six million of a minority, and would you really put it past Trump and his supporters? They would totally kill six million of a minority if they could get away with it, at least that's what it looks like to me. They're just not yet at a point where they could do that.\n\nThe rhetoric is not all that dissimilar to early Hitler, and that's scary. Again I hope I'm wrong about this...",
"???",
"It's strange how many of these comments are calling this post, and this sub shit, yet the pictures that get hated on so much managed to garner 60k upvotes each. Perhaps there's bots at play.\n\n\n",
"I'm a frequenter. Been there since the beginning",
">Oh yeah, and the fact that part of their religion is \"killing the infidels\" just happened to miss you?\n\nHere I'll just quote myself from another comment. \n\n>Trust me, I'm an atheist. I view organized religion as dangerous and Islam as the most dangerous.\n\n>However, a ban isn't 'extra vetting' lmao. And Muslims are hardly the only group he discriminates against.\n\nYou wanna give extra-vetting for countries that are big sources for terrorism? That's completely reasonable. \n\nThere's still more peaceful Islamists than there are violent ones. Like I said, I think Islam is the most dangerous 'organized' religion the planet. But the large majority of the people in this world, regardless of religion, just want to live in peace.\n\nSo extra vetting? Sure. Banning someone based on religion? Kind of goes against the fundamental *idea* of your constitution.",
">Hitler used propaganda and nationalism the same way trump is.\n\nNot at all. Trump just wants to stop ILLEGAL immigration by building a fucking wall. Hitler wanted to oppress and drive out all the jews, homosexuals, and a bunch of other undesirables. When WW2 was not going well, he said \"fuck it, kill em all\".\n\nTrump doesn't want to kill any groups, even people from \"shithole\" countries. \n\n> If you cant see any similarities between 2 nationalist leaders\n\nChurchill and DeGaulle were nationalists, too. Are they both Trump, and also Hitler? FFS.\n\nPOPULIST and NATIONALIST leaders are very common as a category of politician. Hell, Caesar was both. Is Trump Caesar??\n\n>one who was a dictator and one who wants to be\n\nTrump does not want to be a dictator, he wants to be popular and respected. He doesn't have any real political philosophy. He only said what he said on the campaign trail to get elected. I don't think he really gives a shit at all, and if he thought that flipping to liberal would make him more popular and more successful, I am 100% sure he would do it. Trump is loyal to Trump, not to ideology.\n\n>No one is saying they are the exact same, but there are similarities.\n\nI'm sure you could find similarities between Trump and JFK, as much or more than with Hitler, but will liberals EVER make THAT comparison? Nope. Because it is not about serious comparison, it is about trying to destroy Trump because you perceive him to be your political enemy. ",
"Just felt like pointing out that there is a religious minority in the US that has been vilified for nearly twenty years. The media on both sides are to blame, though admittedly Fox has a bigger stake in it. It's also gotten to the point that, with many Americans, Muslim and Middle Eastern are ubiquitous.\n\nA big part of it is how they frame the news. Things like white nationalists trying to run people over or actions against abortion clinics by Christians are almost never held up as extremists.",
"But it really isn't equally as silly. Nobody is saying Trump = Hitler, but if you can't see that some comparisons are valid then you aren't living in reality.",
"> And when they show bias and start slandering anybody \n \nI'm sorry but you are just too loose with facts to be taken seriously. Slander requires proof that a false statement has been made. If they were slandering him they would be sued and would be off the air. The idea that the media has been \"mean\" to Trump by reporting the terrible things he says and does is just laughable. \n \n> the fakeys are pretty spot on at calling out bullshit attempts at undermining our democracy. \n \nNo. Stop gobbling up meaningless PR stunts. \n \n",
"Oh right, me and the rest of the American people that elected president trump into office. I’m so isolated, whatever shall I do",
"What does white have anything to do with it. It was in discussion about have a better controlled border. And the facts are that many mexicans who illegally cross our borders are part of gangs that traffic drugs, weapons, and people through our borders. ",
"> EDIT: lol, this comment is already being brigaded by r/t_d lemmings. Nice\n\nYou literally had two comments. ",
"Or use an international keyboard layout in windows. I can use quotation marks \" and type a u after to get ü. You can also get other stuff this way using ~ ' ` and ^ for example: ë ô ç ñ ý à.",
">Disregarding civilian casualties is never morally imperative. \n\nIt is, though. You literally answered the thought experiments I proposed in my comment with something other than \"never\", so... uhm... ?\n\n>If we pretend everything the Allies did was OK because it was done by the Allies, we condone the same atrocities in future wars. \n\nIn WW2, the Allies had a lot of leeway - not because \"they were the Allies\", but because their enemies were gassing and shooting whole peoples. But the second statement is naive: The context will never be the same, even if just for the fact that precision bombing is a thing now, if imperfect, when in WW2 they sometimes missed their targets to the degree of fucking bombing Switzerland.\n\n>It isn't even clear to me how effective the strategic bombing was at shortening the war: how many days were saved by each 1,000 civilian deaths?\n\nIt's clearly unquantifiable even in hindsight. Looking at the state of german equipment and supplies by the end of the war might be telling a story, though. The amount of ressources spent on moving factories underground, re-laying railways, relocating the population when \"ausgebombt\" from north germany all the way down to what is now Austria. Immeasurable amount of already strapped resources.\n\n>And this argument does nothing to excuse the civilian bombing of Japan.\n\nHow many chinese women being raped and killed by the japanese? The point is the same. But if you want it more concretely, what Japan doesn't gas compared to Germany, it costs more to take in american blood.\n\n>The distinction between the people and the government is even more stark in a totalitarian state, since in such a state the people do not consent to be ruled by their government.\n\nIn a state like that, emigration or resistance becomes morally imperative, and remaining and complying implicitly consents - which is then formalized through organisation in one of the plenty NS-/state-affiliated organisations, particularly for the youth (Jungvolk, HJ, BdM, NS teachers league, the gymnastics organisation,...), and for some even more by actively or passively participating by working in a factory producing materials for the war (Deutscher Frauenarbeitsdienst), or teens manning Flak-towers, young girls spotting planes for them, etc. etc.\n\nThat is the very definition of a totalitarian state, it permeates EVERY walk of private and public life. When even the act of a mother giving birth is made a political act (Mutterkreuz), nothing is able to claim to be apolitical anymore.",
"vilifying minorities, communism, and fake news. check check check",
"*trü",
"Okay so I was right, in your polluted mind an insane racist who kills someone is already a Trump supporter and also apparently means \"cause Trump and supply-side Jesus told him they are the bad guys\" which the article said absolutely nothing about. You are literally making facts up to support a narrative for an article you provided to me, do you not understand how crazy that is? Also in your mind an insane racist with no mention of anything political whatsoever is equivalent to an innocent person being attacked that is absolutely politically motivated since it was in protest of a right wing speaker. You are literally what is wrong with the world. You need to take a step back and reevaluate the \"reality\" you have submerged yourself into. ",
"Sorry but comparing trump and hitler disrespected all of Hitlers victims",
"How is it going to repeat itself",
">So he was obviously talking about the Wall.\n\nRight, like my quote says, then when he's asked to clarify about the Muslim Ban he says:\n\n>But he also said “it would just be good management” when the reporter asked again about creating a database of Muslims.\n\nBut I guess you read over that part?\n\n>The only modern political policy that lines up with the Nazis is liberals wanting to confiscate the guns, like the Nazis did to the Jews so they couldn't defend themselves.\n\nUh, sure.\n\n\n>All citizens must have equal rights and obligations.\n\nI'd say we all agree on that one don't we ;) \n\n>We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. [Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program)\n\nLol, what's that sound like?\n\n>We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race. The Party as such advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity without binding itself confessionally to any one denomination.\n\nYea, this sounds *nothing* like modern Republicans lmao with muslims.\n\nI don't know why you brought that up really, I was trying to argue against your idea that I was calling him Hitler by drawing parallels.\n\n>Nobody should take anything Trump says seriously. Ever. Haven't you learned that by now? He says a lot of shit that has to be walked back or edited or clarified or changed immediately after. He fucking agreed with Diane Feinstein on doing a clean DACA bill, for fucks sake. He says stupid shit that he doesn't mean literally on a daily basis.\n\n >Trump's rhetoric is not. You are correct. It is so tame and unserious that presenting it as a threat to democracy is idiotic and hyperbolic.\n\nSo are you a Trump supporter or not? Because if I felt that way about somebody I can tell you I would not be fucking voting for them. I totally agree with you Trump says dumb shit all the time and backtracks on it.\n\n>Trump's rhetoric is not. You are correct. It is so tame and unserious that presenting it as a threat to democracy is idiotic and hyperbolic.\n\nMy issue is when he's a figurehead for the Republican's to push anti-democracy policy. Like gerrymandering, there have literally been rejected district redraws based on the fact that they were obviously racially discriminatory. That's a judge deciding that, not me. ",
"I'm glad you do. That's important.",
"Its fine to talk about Trump and his similarities to Hitler, all I did was say that its been going on for a long time with the last President as well, if that somehow offends you or isnt allowed based on whatever crazy rule book you are going by then Im sorry but you will just need to deal with it. If pointing out that things arent as bad as everyone is making them out to be because they have been like this for a long time means Im pushing an agenda then you live in a very odd world.",
"Not saying something overtly racist in *one* conversation doesn't mean all the other times don't count.",
"A 97% chance from a 3% lead is blantent propaganda though. \n\nAlso $100 Million isn't a whole lot in politics. Bill Clinton made $240 million since leaving the white house for example. \n\nAnd again. Those ads have had no lasting effect. At best people think Trump might make America great again. And that's not even from Facebook ads.",
"You can change your keyboard settings to united states-international in windows. Let's you type quotation marks followed by a U to get ü. There is no ü key on my keyboard. Same for ñ ý ô ç etc.",
"When news sources constantly knee jerk, then are forced to issue a correction, that is literally fake news.",
"Constantly point out how terrible Trump is. Now they can’t hide behind conjecture about how bad his actions are since we are seeing the actaual consequences of them now.",
"Trump made a generalizing statement of ALL Mexicans being rapist.\n\nYou tried to defend that saying that's totally fair since \"Don't you think some illegal crossers are rapists?\". Sure, statistically, yea.\n\n> And the facts are that many mexicans who illegally cross our borders are part of gangs that traffic drugs, weapons, and people through our borders.\n\nThis is my point. You don't think white people ever do that? Have you ever, maybe, thought why drugs and gangs are such an issue for the Mexican people? Do you think it's fair to generalize an entire nation based on it's criminals? Up here in Canada we smuggle drugs to you guys, too. But I haven't been called a rapist yet.\n",
"Fuck r/pics",
"There's a difference between refusing care based on identity and having an ideoligical opinion about what is medically proper proper or moral. If a cardiologist refuses to perform heart surgery because a person claims they're transgender, that's a breach of the hippocratic oath. But if a doctor refuses to prescribe hormone blockers because they're skeptical of transgenderism as a treatment for gender dysphoria, then that's their opinion of what is medically ethical.",
"No where did I ever say to 100% believe in the news and no one is falling head over heels. It's common sense that since the Japanese PM didn't freak out, it was probably a custom.\n\nThe article that you cite actually says that CNN originally had the quote in their article. It seems that CNN was trying to capitalize on the president's low approval rating to hook users in with the title, but when you read the article they say that the PM did it first. The article you cite seems to put both the Twitter storm and CNN in the same basket to make it seem as though they are reporting on the same thing. CNN tweeted the article title then twitter reported on the title and didn't read the article. As titles go, they usually don't have the full truth in them and if you just read the title your going to have a distorted version of the truth that is laid out in the article.\n\nDid CNN lie? No, but the way things are worded in the article shows bias.\n\nDid CNN do something wrong? Maybe, the sensationalized title could be seen as misleading and irresponsible on Twitter.\n\nWas it fake news? No.\n\nI'm definitely not losing sleep over this, and neither should anyone else.",
"My argument is pretty clear: Trump never said Japan should have nukes.",
">But I guess you read over that part?\n\nIt was a muddled conversation. The person asked HOW would you make a database, and he said something about good management. Sounds like a generic answer to \"Any database will be the best database, made by top men!\" It was also clear as fucking day that Trump had no fucking clue what the reporter was GETTING AT.\n\n>Uh, sure.\n\nYup, gun control is a prerequisite for tyranny. \n\n>I don't know why you brought that up really\n\nall I see if you quoting shit I didn't say.\n\n>So are you a Trump supporter or not? Because if I felt that way about somebody I can tell you I would not be fucking voting for them. I totally agree with you Trump says dumb shit all the time and backtracks on it.\n\nI'm not really that big on Trump, but Hillary would have been even worse. I think government is too big and wasteful so I'm stuck with Republicans even though it would be better if we had a parliamentary system and I could just be Libertarian.\n\n>Like gerrymandering, there have literally been rejected district redraws based on the fact that they were obviously racially discriminatory. That's a judge deciding that, not me. \n\nGerrymandering is just corrupt bullshit designed to keep incumbents in power forever. We should have term limits on everyone.",
"Yes or no, do you believe the Mainstream media deliberately abuses their power to push a narrative? ",
"CNN actually is fake news. Watch Stephen crowder’s 16 hour cnn livestream for more on that.",
"No he didn't he said mexico was sending their problems, Their criminals, their rapists. He never said ALL MEXICANS ARE RAPIST. quit being so goddamn obtuse.\n\nAlso 80% of women who illegally cross the border are coerced into sex or raped on their journey.",
"You claimed nazi hate groups rose 17% since Trump was in office. That’s not even remotely true according to the article.",
"He literally said that Japan should have nukes. Why do you have such an antagonistic relationship with reality?",
"Surely you can quote him then?",
"\"Power now comes from global trade.\"\n\nAnd what has happened under Trump that would undermine this? The economy has been doing excellent. Trump's twitter feed isn't affecting trade. ",
"Okay, so what's an example of a false claim made by a major network that Trump needs to silence with law?\n\nAlso, couldn't this law be used to tie up true information with legal battles so even if the truth does win out, it will be too late for the people to do anything with the information?",
"Oh I was agreeing with you actually; my phrasing probably could've been better.",
"> Cultural bolshevism/marxism is so definitively Nazi. It's a political idea that literally no other political party/movement has ever adopted and was literally invented by the nazis.\n\nEastern European, Italian and Baltic states would disagree. A large chunk of the early 20th century especially post-WW1 in these states pushed this idea. It's fascistic and authoritarian in nature, that I don't disagree. But inherently Nazism? No, Nazism is one specific type of fascism there are many others that happily adopt that idea. In fact in the abstract the idea is nothing more than to blame a minority for faults by claiming they control too much power. Stalinist Russia did the exact same thing with the bourgeoisie middle class, the factory floor-shop managers who were deliberately sabotaging the great five-year plan etc. ",
"Leon Trotsky (1933):\n\n>At the start of his political career, Hitler stood out only because of his big temperament a voice much louder than others, and an intellectual mediocrity much more self-assured. He did not bring into the movement any ready-made program, if one disregards the insulted soldier’s thirst for vengeance. Hitler began with grievances and complaints about the Versailles terms, the high cost of living, the lack of respect for a meritorious non-commissioned officer, and the plots of bankers and journalists of the Mosaic persuasion. There were in the country plenty of ruined and drowning people with scars and fresh bruises. They all wanted to thump with their fists on the table. This Hitler could do better than others. True, he knew not how to cure the evil. But his harangues resounded, now like commands and now like prayers addressed to inexorable fate. Doomed classes, like those fatally ill, never tire of making variations on their plaints nor of listening to consolations. Hitler’s speeches were all attuned to this pitch. Sentimental formlessness, absence of disciplined thought ignorance along with gaudy erudition – all these minuses turned into pluses... His political thoughts were the fruits of oratorical acoustics. That is how the selection of slogans went on. That is how the program was consolidated. That is how the “leader” took shape out of the raw material. \n\nSound familiar? ",
"Can anyone seriously say that the press doesn't have a liberal bias? This isn't new. The press has been liberal for at least 50 years. Every study ever done on press coverage has shown that around 90% of journalists vote Democratic and that Democrats get far more good coverage and far less bad coverage than Republicans.\n\nDemocrats actually came up with the phrase \"fake news\" in an attempt to begin the discussion of censoring the Internet. The existence of \"fake news\" that supposedly changed the election results (ridiculous claim) was the excuse to first bully Facebook and other social media companies to ban more politically incorrect content, and eventually use government regulation to censor Internet speech. I 100% guarantee that's where it's headed. It's the same playbook on every issue. Social media is the only form of media right now that isn't overwhelmingly liberal, making it a huge threat.",
"So that must mean he’s hitler!! /S \n\nOmg you reddit ppl need to chill the fuck out, calm down enjoy the economy and life. Everything is gravy ",
"People like you are purposefully obtuse. I am not talking about his salary and you know it. And I have no idea what movement you are talking about, but I am sure your words sounded triumphantly insulting in your head.",
"I still believe there is journalistic integrity out there and it will vary in the space of 'mainstream media'.",
"That's a very narrow view of power. The US military holds influence not as a bully but as a protector. And the economic power of the US is our primary avenue to influence.",
"I'm not saying he hasn't done anything wrong. I didn't even vote for him. I'm just pointing out what hypocrites you people are. ",
"I don't really watch the news all that much so I wouldn't know any specific claims or whether or not they're true. ",
"According to my leftist friends, all the gays have been rounded up and put into camps, the black and brown people have all been deported and women are no longer allowed in the workplace. And they don't think they're exaggerating. ",
"Yeah because I'm educated and understand that ownership of capital inevitably is used to the benefit of whoever owns that capital, I'm like a \"leftie version of a Trumper.\" Brilliant reasoning. \n\nI guess Einstein was as well, since his quote supported my point. If you don't understand that CNN and ABC and every other \"liberal\" media outlet merely parrots the opinions of their oligarch or corporate owners, you're either incredibly ignorant or incredibly deluded. And yes, obviously this phenomenon includes conservative outlets as well. I'm not saying that there is no difference in the quality between liberal and conservative outlets either- liberal outlets spin the truth and conservative outlets frequently invent it. Both serve the purpose of propaganda for the owners' political views. \n\nI get it's easy to call me a crazy leftie Trumper or whatever stupid ad hominem bullshit but again, Einstein said essentially the same. Is he a crazy leftie too? Or maybe you're not as well read on political ideology and history as you might think? Feel free to make an argument at any point. ",
"How many Americans are dead because of bush? Trump will get there. He's already killing Americans with his attacks on healthcare. If he starts a war he'll kill at least thousands more. Pretty sick traitors like you actually defend him.",
"> it could lead to another Nazi regime.\n\nnot even close, there is zero evidence to support this claim, ZERO.",
"Whataboutism",
"That’s a very good point. ",
"But you do think false claims are endemic enough to require a legal change?",
"Haha nope. I post a lot in r/cringeanarchy but not r/the_donald. Tbh I rarely visit there. Mainly I go to political subs because I want to. But this isn’t a political sub, this is r/pics, where people post pictures. It’s r/pics, not r/politics. Even if that sign was replaced by a slogan praising trump, i still would be complaining.\n\nP.S. why would it matter that I, or someone visits those subs? Just because they visit those subs that doesn’t their opinions are thrown out. Also what? I don’t post in any of the sister subs besides r/cringeanarchy. You’re talking a lot of bullshit here. I haven’t even made a post on r/theredpill.",
"You have a very us vs them mentality. You need to start realizing you and \"us\" have common interests, even if we differ on points. If you're not super fucking wealthy, he doesn't really care about you other than to get people riled up at...\"us\"",
"Yes. But keep in mind, in Germany the Jewish people had wealth as well. That's how it could be done with a skewed moral compass.\n\nMost minorities in America are average or below in terms of wealth. \n\nThe only group you could throw under the bus with ease would be white males. But they have to many people to possibly work.",
"I'm sorry but I believe you're wrong.\n\nItalian facism for example didn't have the same rage against cultural degradation as it wanted to break Italian culture. Mussolini was originally a futurist and it shows in his early rhetoric.\n\nMein kampf literally had an entire chapter dedicated to the German defence against cultural Bolshevism is an obvious starting point for when these ideas began to become prevent among the extreme right.\n\nThe comparison with stalinist Russia might seem apt on the surface but let's be honest it was obvious that the communists were using a warped economic argument to destroy the kulaks rather than a cultural argument which the Nazis used. The two are very different and equating them doesn't really hold up.\n\nI agree that generally we are speaking about demonizing \"others\" but there are very different reasons for the extreme left and extreme right to do this and arguing for a horse shoe theory just doesn't work when you look in-depth at the justifications used. Essentially cultural Marxism is a nazi idea and unpacking and trying to impose it onto the extreme left does not make sense.",
"People said minorities would be attacked in the streets and they would be living in fear. In reality, Black and Hispanic unemployment is at its lowest recorded levels ever. People said women would disparaged and rampant male aggressiveness would keep women down. In reality, women unemployment is at an 18 year low. So no, it is not that bad.",
"You believe 25 million dead is equally undesireable as 100k? 25 million is easily quantifiably worse. I’m not arguing that they are both atrocities, but one is so clearly worse",
"I'm not talking about morality; I'm talking about numbers: numbers of bombing runs, buildings destroyed, casualties. Tokyo was probably hardest hit (when discussing non-nuclear payloads). Hamburg is right up there. ",
"Politicians on more than just the right lying? That cant be true.\n\n/s",
"Not at all. But I do think most of the region is in political disoray and doesn't have a high standard of living. I don't think it has anything to do with them being of a lesser race as well as I acknowledge the fact that Africa is composed of many vastly different cultures and ethnicities. Maybe you shouldn't assume so much about the people you speak to based off of a few sentences. It will earn you more respect in the long run.",
"Protip: If you don't want to talk about morality, don't use a phrase like \"as bad as\"",
"That’s what happens when you let a socialist party take hold. Thankfully the world is now far more pro Jew than it ever has been (unless your a conservative Jew which makes you a Nazi according to the left) ",
"Damn, the Press has been lying ever since Hitler. Fuck. People are really dumb.",
"I normally browse on mobile, so that’s why I can’t put that filter",
"You really have no arguement so you resorted to insulting me. Well done. I'm sure your parents are so proud of the fact that you're online and hitting someone with playground insults over the fact that you believe Trump will become Adolf Hitler. Trump already makes more than enough to do golf, and Presidents go to events, regardless of whether they're Trump or not.",
"Talk to any conservative, they'll prove what i'm saying is true lol",
"Meh, people compared Obama to Hilter, people compared Bush to Hitler, people compared Clinton to Hitler.\n\nIt's going to keep on happening.\n\nPeople should compare Trump to a piece of shit, it's more accurate.",
"Communism is already basically a meme among kids now, although some take it more seriously than others",
"Lots of bold claims there, no evidence to back them up",
"Because his voter base is that easily triggered snowflakes?",
"Mad? Bewildered or puzzled would more accurately describe my current mood. Above you mentioned that you couldn't get on any sub without seeing something Trump related. If you are getting triggered by Trump and political comments everywhere on Reddit then common sense would suggest that you are on the wrong website. \"Criticism\" or crying about it isn't going to change that.",
"Maybe you should try to be more inclusive, then. ",
"Yeah, I believe it started its life as term describing the baseless allegations about Hillary Clinton's emails...",
"Einstein's claim to fame wasn't politics, clearly. Feel free to quote him when we're discussing physics. You AND Einstein can take your failed abortion of a political ideology and throw it in the fucking garbage can where it belongs.",
"This is how I became a conservative. I was a liberal 2 time Obama voter for my first 29 years of life and disagreed with most of what Trump was saying. Then I kept hearing he was a racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe who was literally Hitler. So I actually looked intently into what he was saying, more closely than I would have otherwise and not only saw he wasn't those things, but he had a point on a lot of what he was saying. I now come across as a Trump apologist to my liberal friends because when they say,\"he will usher in the end of the republic,\" I tell them no.",
">It was a muddled conversation. The person asked HOW would you make a database, and he said something about good management. Sounds like a generic answer to \"Any database will be the best database, made by top men!\" It was also clear as fucking day that Trump had no fucking clue what the reporter was GETTING AT.\n\nYou seem to like to speak for Mr. Trump a lot.\n\n>Yup, gun control is a prerequisite for tyranny.\n\nRight, which is why so many developed nations who are considered 'More Free', by multiple organizations and metrics, than the US have been able to pull it off fine for decades. I am a gun owner, btw, but I'm in support of mild gun control.\n\n>all I see if you quoting shit I didn't say.\n\nI was quoting some of the National Socialist platform. Particularly the one where they claimed the press attacked them and needed to face legal ramifications.\n\n>I'm not really that big on Trump, but Hillary would have been even worse. I think government is too big and wasteful so I'm stuck with Republicans even though it would be better if we had a parliamentary system and I could just be Libertarian.\n\nI do not agree with Libertarians at all, so I won't even try and argue on that basis. My question is, what about the Republicans makes you feel as if they are small government? They constantly approve massive spending increases to the military (I know why the US needs a strong military, but there is a ridiculous amount of bloat in it), they bail out billion dollar companies, trying to pass absolutely garbage healthcare bills, militarization of the police, massive subsidies to oil and agricultural companies, they love having the biggest prison system in the world, arresting people for a substance verifiably less damaging than current legal recreational drugs, telling people what they can do with their body (abortion) and who they can and cannot marry (same sex marriage). NOTHING about modern republicans is small government.\n\n>Gerrymandering is just corrupt bullshit designed to keep incumbents in power forever. We should have term limits on everyone.\n\nAgreed, and the one's benefiting from it most are Republicans.\n",
"That's the kind of ironic hyperbole you'd think might come from a T_D poster... Yup , checks out.",
"No clue who you're talking about so I googled it. Is Paul Horner who you're referring to? Apparently he started the paid anti-Trump protester fallacy among others. I don't see anyone claiming he was a democrat though",
"You misspelled nationalist. \n\nIt was the idea that only certain people were \"pure\" Germans that made them turn on their Jewish neighbors, not an economic policy. ",
"It's odd how hating the people who prevent examination of an event is something to condemn. ",
"> Elaborate ruse\n\nRüsean Collaboration Found - quick, call Müller!\n",
"Dumbass libtards",
"You legitimately don’t think there is extreme bias in /r/politics?",
"Welp, that wraps up this chain, lads.",
"So they basically blamed the Jews for all of their problems? ",
">Well I appreciate your point. Your bit about intent is routed by the age-old expression about the road to hell... \n\nWho would win: a large part of the largest part of the oldest field of academic inquiry in the history of humanity, or some old clichéey-boi? (I'm not good at memes)\n\n>Intent is also not an empirical metric.\n\nI know, but I ignored that, because asking for an empirical metric is begging the question, and *reeks* of scientism.\n\n>I would suggest that intent is not a good measurement because of its extremely interpretive nature.\n\nIt really isn't in this case. One groups utopia was a classless society, one was a society full of blonde beasts and most importantly no slavs or jews. We have 0 doubt about these intentions for either party. No inequality vs. germanic purity. Without going into meta-ethics, this is a pretty much uncontoversial win for the commies.\n\n>I also didn't mean to downplay the evilness of the Nazis... \n\nBy comparing anything to them, you inadvertedly end up doing just that though.\n\n>Though you're incorrect when you assert that they did evil things for the sake of being evil\n\nI wrote they did \"evil thing for evil reasons\", not \"evil things for the reason of being evil\" or some such.\n\n>The failed communist revolution in Germany was cited by Nazis as they rose to power, repeatedly, as it was proof-positive that the communist threat was real.\n\n>ust as you indict the Nazis for helping to spread Communism, I would indict the Communists for inciting the rise of the Nazi. The failed communist revolution in Germany was cited by Nazis as they rose to power, repeatedly, as it was proof-positive that the communist threat was real.\n\nAnd the banking crisis bamboozled germans into believing the jewish bankers were controlling the world and tried to keep the blond beast down. Are you an antisemite now, too? Or can we maybe not accept LITERAL GOD DAMN NAZI PROPAGANDA VERBATIM. I think we came full circle here, in the worst way possible.\n\nThe spread of communism via Nazi policy - look at the soviet sphere in 1933, look at it in 1949, and spend 2 seconds on why that state of affairs came to be - is an empirical fact, and to claim it to be equivalent with LITERAL NAZI PROPAGANDA (I can't repeat this enough) is incredible. What next, you going \"Versailles caused the Nazis\"? Cause that, hold your beer, is also literal nazi propaganda.",
"Oh ok. Fair enough. I guess if he's the one who brought up the subject, then he is expected to substantiate his claims one way or another. Stills, the people who claim there was meddling (there obviously was btw, it's just the extent to which there was, how much impact it really had and who was involved that is up to debate at that point) are the ones who need to provide evidence. Not only this is the only logical way to debate, it's also legally how it works. Anyone who is, has been or will be under investigation in the \"Russian affair\" still have a right to the presumption of innocence. Now, if you were to provide evidence and the guy you were talking to just dismissed it, that's a whole other issue, but my original point still stands. He is under no moral obligation to provide any counter-evidence until you have presented compelling evidence to support your claims first.",
"There is a specific difference between what people were originally calling \"fake news\" and the media Trump has targeted when he co-opted the statement.\n\nIt's not even Fox and smaller outlets like Infowars and Breitbart, who tell *deliberate falsehoods* to spin their agenda. What really created the \"fake news\" outcry is the number of websites that popped up during the election that would push entire stories, get themselves picked up by other media, and then disappear. They had no other purpose but to get fake stories into more mainstream media.\n\nThe false equivalence being promoted by Trump is that CNN and MSNBC, if they have a bias, will lean left, and therefore it's \"fake.\" But none of the big mainstream media giants, besides Fox, are lying on purpose. If they get facts wrong, they generally try to make corrections.\n\nTelling news stories you don't like, or telling them in a way you don't like, is not fake. Making up stories or facts is fake. Trump is trying to make us think it's all the same.",
"Fair enough, I missed the word 'retraction' in your comment. Still though, I wonder what is the fraction of stories Trump calls 'fake news' that end up actually being wrong.",
"Basic math and an understanding of how the world works?\n\nGPS doesn't work over 1900Km/h. For reference missiles go at 6000-7000Km/h, and some fighter jets can hit 2500Km/h.\n\nSo to use GPS the Koreans would need to use a very high arc, in order to use GPS while not going over the speed limit. Which would be a very slow missile, easy to be shot down and intercepted by another missile, or even a jet.\n\nAssuming the Koreans can even manage such a flight pattern. \n\nIf they opt not to use GPS at all, they have no way of tracking the missile. Which means the entire flight would be blind. Much like a firework. They could aim for the Whitehouse and hit Canada for example. \n\nTransmitters on Subs that have known locations might work. But it would be limited to West coast targets. And be blown if the subs are caught. While also shouting \"we're here\". Things that subs shouldn't do. And that's 3-5+ subs with line of sight to the missile, and the target. \n\nAnd that's if it can cross the ocean accurately enough to end up in the radius the Subs are broadcasting. \n\nIt's like throwing a ball blind, to another blind man, who can dunk it if they can catch it.",
"Believe it or not, having a political agenda pushed into your face at every single possible opportunity is fucking obnoxious. I just want everyone to tone down the fucking politics in absolutely every facet of life. Go to a political board if you want politics, don't shoehorn it into every single fucking thing that you can.\n\nHonestly, you people are so fucking insufferable that at this point I'm glad Trump is driving you insane. You deserve it for being so goddamn smug and self-righteous.",
"I 100% do, but I find it kind of hilarious that it's coming from someone who spends time in T_D.",
"So you all deny that mass media always pushes continuous propaganda related to their own interests?\nYou deny that people can be corrupt?",
"You mean like \"Trump overfeeds Coi fish in impatient tantrum\"",
"I have said in surrounding comments that /r/the_donald is 100% biased. However as someone else said, at least that subreddit doesn’t hide behind ‘bipartisanship’. ",
"My God Reddit, you have no shame.",
"https://youtu.be/KHiX5jGAF-A",
"Now I suspect this comment was set up for you to make this joke\n\n*Boos* ",
"No idea mate. I just always seen this figure of 6 million jews being killed as if they were somehow more important than the rest of those who got killed. As if it somehow worse that they got killed for being jewish rather than gay, roma, polish or what not. And if we are talking about the atrocities of Nazis here lets face it, 17 million sounds a lot worse than 6 million.",
"Hitler was a leftist!!!",
"> reevaluate the \"reality\" you have submerged yourself into.\n\nRight, I should come back to Trumpling reality, where the people who marched alongside murderous nazis are \"very fine people\" while peaceful NFL protesters are \"ungrateful sons of bitches\".\n\nWhat a fucking joke.",
"Can a man become a woman?",
"> Women are the most oppressed people in our society. \n\nLol\n\n",
"Uhhhhhh\n\nNo.",
"So you support a unhindered 2nd amendment wholeheartedly correct? So that the citizens may fight oppressive government tyranny like what you think you see in Trump? ",
"Bro you suck so much, and you’re not helping your own political beliefs at all. As long as you cling to this need for superiority, you’re pushing us apart. Plenty of working class Americans were alienated from the dems due to this obnoxious false elitism.",
"Bad logic is bad. Just because Hitler said the news lies doesn’t mean they get a free pass to say whatever they want. CNN has a track record for having to go back and correct statements.\n\nHitler once drank water: therefore if you drink water you are a nazi. \n\nI could just as easily make a 1984 meme about how you have to believe the media regardless of what they say. ",
"Equally acceptable is the German word order:\n\nIn front of the window stands a tree.\n\nI can't say why that is, or why that form sounds way more laboured. Definitely literary.",
"At least CNN has the decency to go back and correct statements. If something like Fox were to do that, they wouldn't get around to doing anything else anymore.",
"The term Lügenpresse isn’t a Nazi term, it was just used by Nazis. Again, you’re cherry picking one thing Nazis did and saying “look at trump he’s doing the same thing”. It’s an argument that can be used pretty much for any party. \n\nDislike something? Instead of attacking it at its own merits, just find something that the Nazis did and compare it to them. You can do that for any political party on any side of the spectrum. \n\nComparing to Nazis is not a good argument it’s just not. ",
"You’re still failing at logic. Just because someone (who I wasn’t defending) does it worse. It doesn’t mean you are doing it correctly. ",
"Why would white nationalist groups declare war on the US? It feels like your criteria of who we should restrict is biased from the get go-- it wouldn't even apply to some of the biggest historical enemies of the US. Meanwhile, we're already at the point of restricting Iraqis and Afghans that were denying visas to those that directly supported US troops. What good will more nation based restriction achieve? ISIS isn't even representative of the diversity of Middle Eastern Islam, much less the diversity of Iraq.",
"Hitler was a socialist\n\nTrump is a Capitalist\n\nHuge difference",
"> Trumpling reality\n\nyou have painted yourself a fine picture.",
"> The NRA isn't pushing violence... What the hell? And evangelicals have been evangelicals for years.\n\nTell me this isn’t a call to prime people for violence - against “them”. : [The Clenched Fist of Truth](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tOfLjGg5gP0).\n\nReally, dude, WTF ",
"CNN coined the term though...",
"Wow, the Germans really **DO** have a word for everything! ",
"People who immigrate legally are being punished by having to go through the process to get a green card? I mean you make it sound like people who are here illegally are treated like citizens. They’re not. Many services are unavailable to them, they are constantly trying to keep their heads down. I’m not saying that’s necessarily unjust, but it’s definitely an inequity in comparison to legal immigrants. Reality is that illegal immigration plugged a lot of gaps in the lower end of our workforce for a long time, I don’t see that demand leaving anytime soon. It’s not Walmart, cvs, or other service jobs, it’s tough manual labor that can pay in cash on contracts like farming and construction that the gap exists. I don’t think legal immigrants or native born citizens are doing that work at that price. Now you can make the argument that this is a net positive if you raise wages as a result, but there will be a countereffect to that as well. ",
"Maybe ",
"Yeah fair.\n\nI guess I was just trying to allude to the type of people that can show up outside of there... I also never said I was arguing with t_d just the type of people that go there you can get into an arugment elsewhere.\n\nSorry I wasn’t clear enough. \n\nedit: words",
"Obviously T_D is biased politically in support of their Overlord, but it's their delusion towards reality and their echo chamber propaganda that make it twice the shithole r/politics even is. You can't even make a post asking for a simple source in that sub without being banned. Seriously, they'll just ban you for being skeptical. \n\nIt's honestly a joke that they're still on reddit with the childish brigading and targeted harassment they perpetuate, and still their posters wonder why they're judged and love to play victim. Would put a smile on my face to see both subs emptied out though.",
"Doesn’t the trash from the_sewer keep complaining about everything anti-Trump being upvoted because Reddit is so left-leaning (and yet they depend on it as platform :) )",
"2/10, doesn't even have his middle name in all-capital letters. But it is a Facebook-grade political image macro, so you got that going for you, which is nice. \n\nYou can really tell Trump is trying to reduce debt by giving himself a tax cut and taking weekly vacations to his own properties though. Personally, I've always liked how he accused Obama of making up unemployment and job growth numbers, and then said they were amazing and tried to take credit once he was in office. ",
"So you're arguing the media was lying about Hitler too? ",
">You seem to like to speak for Mr. Trump a lot.\n\nNot at all, I just know a distorted mess of a conversation where people are not talking about the same subject.\n\n>I am a gun owner, btw, but I'm in support of mild gun control.\n\nWe have pretty strict gun control in the US. In other countries, it is not even a matter of \"control\", pretty much nobody is allowed to have a gun except for a small minority subject to severe regulation.\n\n>Particularly the one where they claimed the press attacked them and needed to face legal ramifications.\n\nBack in Nazi days there was no claim of a neutral, non-partisan press like there is claimed to be now. All the press was controlled by people who had agendas. All Trump is doing is saying \"these people are not unbiased, they are liberals and they have it out for me, to the point of lying about me\" which is somewhat true.\n\n>My question is, what about the Republicans makes you feel as if they are small government?\n\nThey are less bad than Democrats. At least the Republicans do tax reform and tax breaks. All the Democrats want to do is tax and spend.\n\nThe Republicans did a shit job of reducing the size of government under GWB, but did a good job in the 90s, and Trump's admin has taken SOME steps to reducing the size of government.\n\n>They constantly approve massive spending increases to the military (I know why the US needs a strong military, but there is a ridiculous amount of bloat in it)\n\nThe military is only a small part of our budget. Entitlements are the overwhelming majority.\n\n>they bail out billion dollar companies\n\nThat was bipartisan, and nowhere near as bad as the \"stimulus\" money burning party Obama threw.\n\n>militarization of the police\n\nThat happens on the state/local level, and it isn't really a partisan issue. The Democrats stopped trying to rein in the police in the 1980s.\n\n>massive subsidies to oil and agricultural companies, they love having the biggest prison system in the world\n\nThat's again, pretty bipartisan. I'm against the police state and massive prison system, but the Democrats offer little alternative there except empty words. What did Obama do about any of it? Nothing.\n\n>telling people what they can do with their body (abortion) \n\nAbortion as an issue turns entirely on whether you see an unborn baby as a human life, or some worthless subhuman bundle of cells. If it is life, then obviously it deserves to be protected. I am in favor of keeping abortion legal, but it needs to be regulated and discouraged as well.\n\n>and who they can and cannot marry (same sex marriage).\n\nWell I don't really give a shit, since Republicans were fine with civil unions anyway, which were the same as marriage but with a different name. \n\n>NOTHING about modern republicans is small government.\n\nUhh, everything about republicans is smallER government. Republicans want smaller budgets with cuts. Democrats want bigger budgets and higher taxes. Democrats fight to the death over ANY cuts, and are 100% of the reason why government never gets smaller.\n\n>Agreed, and the one's benefiting from it most are Republicans.\n\nNot really, it depends on the state. ",
"Meh not really. Not much privately owned arms would do against the US military.",
"> a warped economic argument to destroy the kulaks rather than a cultural argument which the Nazis used.\n\nDisagree, they used both. And not exclusively just for Kulaks, Kulaks only profiteered from Lenin's initial economic reform. Managerial positions in industry existed before and after those reforms. You're not pushing it purely from an economic point of view, it's not the have's and have not's. You push the idea that these people don't believe the same things you believe, they don't care about the communist revolution in any form not just economic. They are pernicious, opportunistic 'others' who are richer than you and different to you. In the abstract it's the same thing, your goal's or your vision of a better world being sabotaged by this group of people who think, live and are different to you. It happens all the time, it could be religious differences, economic differences (fyi economics does apply in the German case as the Jewish Marxists were richer than you and profiteering off of your hardship) or cultural differences. And normally it's all 3, as the group has to be alien enough to enough people for it to work. Hence minority religion, economic status and lifestyle. Hence why in the abstract the comparison holds up quite well.\n\n> but there are very different reasons for the extreme left and extreme right to do this\n\nNo the reasons are the same, it is to off-load problems onto those who can easily be harangued. Distract from your own governmental failings and even to some extent to trick yourself into believing why your vision or view of the world isn't working. As these people are generally quite narcissistic and easily give blame. \n\n> Essentially cultural Marxism is a nazi idea and unpacking and trying to impose it onto the extreme left does not make sense.\n\nDisagree for reasons stated above. ",
"Racists couldnt stop a black man from winning twice. But came out against the white women? \n\n-bill burr I believe. ",
"What happens when someone believes a small group of megacorporations, which account for a massive chunk of news distribution in the US, misconstrue facts to make them look bad? Are they not allowed to defend themselves on social media?",
"Okay theres like 6 of these on front page.\n\nIf this isn't proof reddit can be 'played' i don't know what is",
"People were right.\n\n* [ Man yells, \"Make America Great Again!\" Before shooting 6 people dead.](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3521583/Uber-driver-repeated-Trump-s-Make-America-Great-slogan-shooting-dead-six-people-Kalamazoo.html)\n\n* [Man wearing, \"Make America Great Again\" hat murders 2 strangers for no reason.](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748428/Cannibal-killer-Austin-Harrouff-19-wearing-Make-America-Great-Trump-hat-stormed-murdered-random-couple.html)\n\n* [A Trump supporter murders 2 police officers because they told him he couldn't wave a Confederate flag at a high school football game.](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3902902/Iowa-cop-killer-Scott-Michael-Greene-proud-Donald-Trump-supporter.html)\n\n* [Two men beat a homeless man with a metal bar and urinate on him screaming, “Donald Trump was right, all these illegals need to be deported,” When asked for a comment about the incident Trump defends them saying, \"My supporters are very passionate. They love this country and they want this country to be great again.\"](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/21/trump-says-fans-are-very-passionate-after-hearing-one-of-them-allegedly-assaulted-hispanic-man/?utm_term=.f82959c8c076)\n\n* [Trump supporter attacks a Hispanic man and a Muslim student at a gas station while yelling, \"Trump! Trump! Trump!\"](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/14/trump-trump-trump-yells-attacker-as-he-beats-hispanic-man-muslim-student/?utm_term=.baf319b8bc11)\n\n* [Trump supporter stabs a black man unprovoked because he was holding hands with a white woman, tells police they need to release him so he can attend a Trump rally that night.](http://www.skyvalleychronicle.com/BREAKING-NEWS/Black-Man-Stabbed-In-Olympia-In-What-Police-Say-May-Be-Racially-Motivated-Hate-Crime-2584308) \n\n* [Trump supporter attacks Muslim woman at airport.](http://time.com/4651432/trump-muslim-woman-jfk-airport/) \n\n* [A Trump supporter punches a 70 year old protester in the face.](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/09/69-year-old-woman-punched-in-the-face-at-trump-rally.html)\n\n* [Trump supporter arrested for brutally beating protester.](http://gawker.com/trump-supporter-charged-with-assault-after-beating-prot-1766090832)\n\n* [3 Trump supporters arrested planning terrorist attack to kill Muslims.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/militia-terror-plot-fbi-kansas_us_58014995e4b0162c043c1e90)\n\n* [Trump supporter confuses an Indian man for a Muslim at restaurant and says, \"Things are different now, I don't want you sand n*ggers sitting next to me.\" Before attacking the man.](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/drunken-pittsburgh-man-sucker-punches-oblivious-indian-man-he-mistook-for-sand-nr/)\n\n* [\"We got a new President you fucking f*ggots.\" Men yell as they attack gay man.](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-hate-crime-gay-man-attacked-homophobic-chris-ball-calgary-santa-monica-a7411116.html)\n\n* [Trump supporters track down and brutally beat an artist because she made a painting of Trump with a small penis.](http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/trump-artist-punched-face-nude-painting-los-angeles-378062381.html?_osource=nbcnews_twitter) \n\n* [Trump supporter who sucker punched protester: “Next time, we might have to kill them.”](http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/15177-trump-supporter-who-punched-protester-next-time-we-might-have-to-kill-him)\n\n* [Trump is asked to comment on his supporters brutally beating a black man, he responds with, “He was obnoxious! Maybe he should have been roughed up,” ](https://thinkprogress.org/donald-trump-my-fans-were-right-to-beat-up-black-protester-32639e4da487)\n\n* [\"You fucking ********* and **********, We voted for Trump. Trump's building a wall, ********, and you'll be going back to where you belong.\" Man yells at black elementary school children unprovoked before he swerves his car at them attempting to hit them.](http://patch.com/new-york/bed-stuy/bed-stuy-school-kids-harassed-driver-yelling-f-black-lives-they-dont-matter) \n\n* [Trump supporter assaults woman at rally and then says he wouldn't of done it if Trump didn't inspire him to attack her.](http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-supporter-accused-assaulting-woman-campaign-rally-blames-president-n747151)\n\n* [Trump supporter recognizes famous anti-Trump playwright, walks up to him in a restaurant and says, “Sieg Heil! Fuck you, you Jew cunts, we’re gonna kill all of you.\" before attacking him.](http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/01/jon-robin-baitz-trump-inauguration-assault)\n\n* [Trump supporters beat black man so badly he’s hospitalized for concussion and call him the n-word.](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/24/black-protestor-beaten-at-trump-rally-ready-to-sue-for-hate-crime.html)\n\n* [Trump supporter pepper sprays a 15-year-old girl point-blank in the face after another Trump supporter groped her breasts, shouting “n*gger lover” as she attempted to run away.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/30/after-alleged-groping-teen-trump-protester-pepper-sprayed-by-trump-supporter-outside-wisc-rally/) \n\n* [Trump supporter walks up to a black man in the middle of a downtown area and says, \"Donald Trump will deport you.\" Before punching the black man.](http://bangordailynews.com/2016/11/21/news/bangor/council-members-denounce-alleged-pro-trump-attack-as-hate-crime/)\n\n* [“Trump is going to win and if you don’t like it I’m going to beat your ass,” Trump supporter yells at random black woman outside of convenient store.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/todd-warnken-arrested-threatening-black-woman-trump?utm_content=buffer7f991&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)\n\n* [Man attacks and kicks Muslim airport employee shouting, \"Trump is here now, he will get rid of all of you.\"](http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Muslim-Employee-Hijab-Delta-Sky-Lounge-Kicked-Harassed-Flyer-Shouts-Trump-is-Here-Now-411924555.html)\n\n* [In 8 months Trump supporters attacked protesters at 20 different rallies.](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/03/02/a_list_of_violent_incidents_at_donald_trump_rallies_and_events.html)\n\n* [Trump supporter tracks down a local Latino Democratic political candidate and tries to run him and his elderly mother over with a car. (The Latino candidate is also a former marine.)](http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-supporter-allegedly-tries-to-run-over-latino-dem-candidate-whos-also-a-retired-marine/)\n\n* [\"This is for Donald Trump!\" man yells as he runs up a Latino person and punches them in the head.](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/this-is-for-donald-trump-white-man-repeatedly-punches-hispanic-worker-in-the-back-of-the-head/)\n\n* [Trump supporter goes to Hillary Clinton rally to disrupt the event, ends up punching someone when asked to leave.](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-supporter-arrested-punching-person-clinton-event-article-1.2842182)\n\n* [Trump supporter punches, chokes and slaps protesters on video during rally.](http://www.businessinsider.com/man-punched-and-choked-protesters-at-north-carolina-trump-rally-2016-9)\n\n* [An angry mob of Trump supporters brutally beat and grab a mans genitals because he held up a, \"Republicans Against Trump\" sign.](http://globalnews.ca/news/3049756/man-beaten-at-donald-trump-rally-for-holding-republicans-against-trump-sign/)\n\n* [A Trump supporter yells, \"Get your black kids out of here. Do you even have a job? Do you know what a job is, n*gger?\" Before physically attacking a black man who had come to the hospital to get help for his sick 2 week old daughter.](https://thinkprogress.org/black-family-says-white-hospital-volunteer-assaulted-them-used-the-n-word-and-invoked-donald-trump-3b175dde48a5#.teurfz7ja)\n\n* [Local Republican Politician sexually assaults a woman by, \"grabbing her pussy.\" and then says he is allowed to do it because now that Trump is president he doesn't have to be politically correct.](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/christopher-von-keyserling-republican-grab-woman-genitals-groin-pussy-greenwich-connecticut-town-a7530856.html)\n\n* [Canadian man who was a vocal Trump supporter both online and in person goes into a mosque and murders 6 people.](https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/suspect-in-quebec-mosque-attack-quickly-depicted-as-a-moroccan-muslim-hes-a-white-nationalist/)\n\n* [Trump supporter physically assaults Comedian on stage for making Anti-Trump Joke.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdYHdbWduNs)\n\n* [Man yells, \"Trump\" while beating African immigrant cab driver.](http://fox17online.com/2016/11/17/police-investigating-assault-on-cab-driver-ethnic-intimidation/)\n\n* [A Trump supporter is arrested for burning a Mosque down.](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/florida-man-faces-hate-crime-charge-mateen-mosque-arson-article-1.2792764)\n\n* [Man slashes victims with machete while yelling racial slurs](http://www.lakeconews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=51061:man-arrested-for-machete-stabbing-hate-crime-following-standoff&catid=1:latest&Itemid=197)\n\n* [Alt Reich member stabs black man to death](https://thinkprogress.org/umd-stabbing-hate-6e62dfeb19e7)\n\n* [Portland man stabs two for interfering with racial harassment](http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/27/530351468/2-dead-1-injured-after-stabbing-in-portland-ore)\n\n* [ Bomb making material found in Neo Nazi apartment](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4534398/Neo-Nazi-arrested-bomb-making-substances-found.html)",
"Good conspiracy theory. And why wouldn't you make plans lol, that's just common sense.",
"or at least Luegenpresse",
"Propaganda",
"lol please don't compare dick grabbing with butt slapping\n\nI run a promo team, and the models playfully smack my ass without permission all the time (I'm a guy). Instead of having them arrested - I smack back.\n\nLearn to read a room. Smacking a random girl's ass on the street? Probably not a good idea. \n\nThis whole \"explicitly ask for consent\" silliness doesn't end well. No one is attracted to that.",
"Along with the treaty of Versailles, yes. Watch Der Ewige Jude, the amount of dehumanization is off the charts. They're repeatedly compared to rats or vermin. ",
"The politifact article does also lambast Clinton, and point out her lying, but I'll address the points in these other articles.\n\nhttp://thefederalist.com/2016/12/16/running-data-politifact-shows-bias-conservatives/\n\nThe problem with the above article is that Jim Webb and Ron Paul said 2 different, but similar things. \n\nJim Webb said: \"The U.S. didn't even have income taxes until 1913.\"\n\nRon Paul said: \"The U.S. federal income tax rate was 0 percent until 1913.\"\n\n\nIn 1862, President Abraham Lincoln signed a measure enacting an income tax to help pay for the Civil War. It imposed a tax of 3 percent on incomes between $600 and $10,000 and a 5 percent tax on incomes above that level. The levy, which had sunset provisions, expired in 1872. It was not forgotten, however.\n\nIn 1894, Congress passed a new income tax, but it never went into effect. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional the next year because it was a direct tax that was not apportioned on the basis of each state’s population. At that time, for example, if 5 percent of the U.S. population lived in Virginia, then no more than 5 percent of the total revenue could come from Virginia.\n\nThat constitutional hurdle was cleared by the 16th Amendment, proposed by President William Howard Taft in 1909 and ratified by the states in 1913. It allowed the tax to be levied without any apportionment among states. Congress adopted a 1 percent tax on net personal income of more than $3,000 with a surtax of 6 percent on incomes of more than $500,000.\n\nLincoln signed a measure enacting income tax, but there wasn't a constitutional amendment ratifying income tax until 1913. So to say that the income tax didn't exist before 1913 is half true because it was a temporary measure rather than a ratified constitutional amendment, and to say that the income tax rate was 0% before 1913 is false because there was no rate to speak of other than the temporary measure Lincoln enacted. \n\nThe counterpoint to this argument in Mr Shapiro's article is \"Are you on drugs?\", but the argument still stands regardless of Mr Shapiro's misinterpretation of it just like laws are still in effect for people who unknowingly violate them.\n\nAs for the second article:\n\nhttp://thefederalist.com/2016/12/29/politifact-slants-truth-ratings-republicans/\n\nMr. Shapiro claims that politifact runs fewer checks on Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump, which makes sense when you consider that more evidence is necessary when trying to convince someone who is enthralled with an unabashed liar who calls out his critics as being liars themselves that said individual may not be what they seem.\n\nMr Shapiro says in the article: \"The simplest explanation for the disparity in lies checked between Trump and Clinton is that when Hillary gets caught in a lie, she stops lying, while Trump continues lying.\"\n\nThen attempts to support that claim by making points about Obama's consistency in his stance on the gender pay gap. Whether you think it exists or not, there's no evidence that Obama believes anything other than what he says regarding the gender pay gap. If Mr. Shapiro were going to support that claim with a substantive argument he'd do that with lies Hillary Clinton told, instead of attacking an entirely different person's stance on possible gender pay disparities.\n\nHe also attempts to use data on the number of words used per article regarding each Republican candidate as evidence that politifact is biased towards conservatives due to articles regarding Donald Trump having similar numbers of words to articles regarding democrats, which doesn't make a substantive argument about the content of those articles.\n\nMatt Shapiro's opinions regarding politifact aren't unsubstantiated, even though he uses data tables to present them as facts.\n\nI'm sorry my friend, but you'll need better evidence than opinion pieces containing substantively unrelated graphs and tables from data analysts who work for right wing blogs to prove your original blanket accusation that people on the left coined the term \"Fake News\". ",
"If you honestly think the republican party will exist in 2020, you’re an idiot.",
"Is this the end of Blumpf's campaign!? XD Here's how Bernie can still win!",
"Discrediting press = HORTLUR\n\nDAE",
"You're correct, you won't stop me from recognizing that repeated, intentional use of extreme hyperbole is a poor way to make a point and have people take you seriously.",
"Woo!! i love it when people show how autistic they are. \n\nYou left out all the juicy stuff. You some kind of amateur?\n\nEdit: this person is *actually* crazy im not gonna engage them anymore. I hope they go get the help they need. ",
"Username checks out, sorta. ",
"[Except these people painted it](www.reddit.com/r/the_donald) not me.",
"It took Hitler less than a month in power to start arresting members and elected parliamentary representative of the third largest party in Germany in order to suppress his opposition using the force of the state. It took less than 2 months in power to pass a law that gave him totalitarian power and enabled him to pass legislation unilaterally, without needing parliament at all. So far, Trump hasn't arrested any democrat congressmen or senators and hasn't even called for unilateral legislative power.",
"Except that he really wasn't, at all. I'd say he was centre with right-wing tendencies, if anything, but it's difficult to place him on any sort of modern left-right spectrum. Mostly, Hitler was really just Hitler.\n\nAt any rate, Hitler absolutely loathed socialism and communism, and wanted few things more than to eradicate those ideologies (those few things mostly boiling down to the eradication of other groups, such as the Jews). He sought to create a nationalist redefinition of \"socialism\", which was fundamentally different from anything we understand to be socialism today, hence the name \"national socialism\". It wasn't so much socialism as it was social darwinism, nationalism, and authoritarianism.\n\nHe wasn't a fan of capitalism either, but it's difficult to say to what extent he opposed it. There was a lot of anti-capitalist rhetoric, but he wasn't against companies or private ownership. He did vehemently oppose big business capitalism (in large part due to his belief that big businesses were under Jewish control), and opposed international finance for similar reasons, believing that it damages nations. If there is one area in which we have to acknowledge the differences between Trump and Hitler, it would without a doubt be this. Trump is all about big business and has given a lot of lobbyists a say in government. We can't say that Trump and Hitler don't share quite a few philosophies, but there are also some that they would violently disagree on, and their views on big business are easily the best example of that.",
"ITT: /r/The_Donald getting pissed off that their favourite alt-righter is being compared to their second favourite alt-righter.",
"He went all the way to my pizza post to tell the person im a shill. This person is mentally unstable. ",
"Zee Germans\n",
"If you really want to find out what they did head over to r/russialago\n There's a good summary there that will help you get started.",
"You're the one suggesting Trump is capable of foresight. Sounds like you give him a lot more credit than I do.",
"English used to be the same way before it fell out of fashion in favor of only capitalizing proper nouns. ",
"Yeah but the press DOES ACTUALLY LIE. why is this fact just being ignored?? The MSM has been caught straight up making things up. What universe are you people living in where you trust the today's MSM???? It doesn't even matter what side you're on trusting today's MSM shows you lack discernment.",
"There is no need to be upset. I'm simply calling out what you're trying to do. Rachel Maddow is a good informative show. It's fine to disagree.\n\nHave a nice day.",
"To ignore the similarities is to not learn from history. ",
"Going back and correcting your statements is more correct and professional than privately hoping falsehoods go unnoticed.\n\nThe message isn't that Trump is a nazi, it's that he and Hitler have used the same blanket accusation strategy to preemptively discredit their critics because both leaders knew it'd be effective.",
"Beep boop* DO NOT DISCLOSE MY ORIGIN, HUMAN!!!",
"I disagree. There certainly are some I wouldn't be surprised if they would (McConnel and Arpaio come to mind), but I don't think the vast majority of them have fallen to the point they'd do that. Then again, they did get rid of healthcare protections...",
"The japs were ready to surrender. The yanks wanted to experiment and to send a message to anyone who might start shit in future. So they murdered a couple of hundred thousand civilians.",
"Youre just mentally unhinged, mate. Get some help. This isnt even funny to me anynore you have some serious fucking problems. ",
"A big post filled with fake news. Got any real news sources?",
"Using others to explain your argument is a bad tactic.",
"Except that CNN and others report legit fake news...",
"Are you saying that the whole party will have collapsed and dissipated in 2 years?",
"They trawl through /r/all. They're intensely dedicated to the “art” of brigading any negative comments on /r/all about Trump, mainly because the only things they do other than vote on threads/comments about Trump is masturbate to hentai and talk about how Japan is a utopia free of Muslims.",
"Thought it said \"Lungenpresse\" (\"Lunge\" = lungs).",
"Please don't compare Hitler to Trump. I'm not defending Trump, but he's nowhere near as bad as Hitler. ",
"It was certainly legal in his country. Internationally is another story - but the killing of Jews was within the rights of resettlement and other laws that his party drafted.",
"> A lot of it still goes back to Pizzagate and how they all believe the Democrats and the deep state are protecting a global network of pedophiles.\n\nClearly there is an issue with pedophilia in politics and the extent of it has been covered up in multiple countries, that's not really a secret (see the US, the UK, Belgium, ..). Like someone else said, you make a few valid points but then throw the baby out with the bathwater because the issues overlap. This shows the power of terms like \"fake news\" and its evil twin \"conspiracy theory\", once it is attached to something, people turn off their scrutiny and look the other way. Which is, in my opinion, exactly why these terms were invented. The end result is that you create the impression of a sensible and truthful side and a side of gullible fools buying into fairy-tales, making it very easy to take control of the narrative, which becomes clear in your assessment and eagerness to make claims about the convictions of 50 million voters, or how they have to be deprogrammed, without realizing how you yourself are programmed.\n\nThe real issue to me is the \"*actual*\" news catapulting us from one circus act into the next without people questioning it. You speak about an impact on the national election, but the impact on the entire world caused by the media who's now flaunting the term \"fake news\" is much bigger, but it is tacitly accepted, as if it is how it's supposed to be or unavoidable. We wouldn't have been at war with Iraq, Syria, Libya, Somalia or Yemen if the media had done their job, or in fact, had done nothing at all. But they cheered on an administration hell bent on war and even fired those who dared question their bellicose nature. Not to mention their complete absence when Bush stole two elections or their failure to hold those who failed their job on 9/11 responsible, choosing to instead fuel rabid patriotism by pulling our emotional strings.\n\nInstead of just following the media into whatever this week's frenzy is, look for the things they don't discuss, or don't allow you to discuss, because those are the things that actually matter, everything else is just bread and games to keep the people occupied.",
"This is so incredibly ignorant of who Hitler was and what he did, there really is very little meat when you compare the two.\n\nPeople like to claim Hitler was some far-right dictator who did nothing but hunt Jews. But he wasn't strictly right wing at all, the Nazi party put into place lots of social services for the German people. They did this at the expense of the Jews, yes, but the overarching theme was that the German people would take care of each other. This doesn;t sound anything like the Trump administration.\n\nHitler also managed to legislate his way into a position where he controlled all of the safeguards in place meant to stop a dictator. He used propaganda to cement this into place so that nobody questioned it and enough people thought it was a great idea he would go completely unchallenged. This would be the equivalent of Trump somehow directly controlling both Houses by making his vote count for 51% of the total votes. \n\nThis all happened in a very short space of time, but basically yeah once he'd got done \"cleaning up\" Germany, the rest of Europe was the next target. \n\nI have Jewish heritage and members of my family escaped some of the concentration camps so believe me when I say that Hitler was a horrific person. The mere thought of Trump being approximated to Hitler is fucking disgusting.\n\nRegardless of what he tweets, regardless of how often he plays golf, regardless of how orange his face is and how big or small his penis might be, if he were in any way comparable to Hitler, do you think you would be typing this on the internet right now? Do you think the Trump equivalent of the Gestapo wouldn't have taken you away for reeducation by now? Do you think there would be any foreigners left in your country at all? \n\nSo despite how clever you think you are being by comparing Trump and Hitler, the two are nowhere near the same. You talk about parallels between them, most of those parallels are simply because they're both populist politicians. You could draw just as many parallels to Bernie Sanders as you can Trump. \n\nSo if we want to talk about incompetence, we should probably talk about your grasp of history, politics, and logic.\n",
"At this rate, absolutely. Maybe even sooner. Your diluted, delusional mind doesn’t see what the rest of the country/world sees. ",
"See you in 2 years, then! Have a nice day!",
"Only in terms of namecalling in any argument isn't a sign of doing well. But the nazis were real people that existed so recently that people who experienced them are still alive, not mythical fairytale creatures that can never be matched my modern man.",
"Where do you think it comes from? It's all over this thread. The leftist media looking down their noses at everything that doesn't fit their narrative. Reddit falls right in with that. The /r/popular was conceived just to make sure that t_d couldn't behave like SRS had been doing for years. ",
"Not the same in any sense of the word",
">\t They could aim for the Whitehouse and hit Canada for example.\n\nThis is the fucking point. It's a nuclear missile. If it hits anything, the world loses, especially with the dipshit currently bragging about the size of his \"button\" in charge of the response.\n\nThe rest is unsubstantiated garbage. I dint think you know a single thing about how missile targeting works, or how accurate anyone might be.",
"What similarities",
"Not when the Russia meddling is one of the biggest stories currently ongoing. You honestly have to living under a rock not to know.\n\nI've been down this road before. I know what you're trying to do. If your wish to learn is genuine, then I've provided plenty of material to get started. ",
"Whether the creatures exist or not is irrelevant. The experience of belief is the goal.",
"in mandarin it's just written as v ",
"That's not a source ",
"“Trump was parroting obama” about fake news. \n \nI can’t get over this. You know this is completely false. Right? You are lying. ",
"I know. But I wasn't being sarcastic.",
"Are you dumb? I said “unwanted” sexual contact. UNWANTED. READ PLEASE. Obviously these models slapping your ass is not unwanted.\n\nJesus Christ you are a dense one.",
"Weinstein did nothing wrong?",
"\"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing\"\n - Malcolm X",
"> Right, I should come back to Trumpling reality\n\nNo, you are implying that I am part of some hive mind with a Trumpling mentality because I can see the fact that both sides have shitty people on them and doing exactly what you are doing has caused us to reach this point. Don't blame other people for your own conclusions. T_D are, for the most part, shit people who are toxic as hell. Basing an entire voting body on a subreddit and ignoring/making up facts to support a narrative make you a shitty toxic person as well. This is the problem, there is such a political divide that people like yourself have become so self righteous that you can literally make things up and still do no wrong in your mind because the other side is worse.. Can you not see how this is a self perpetuating problem that you yourself are taking part in?\n\nI'm being honest and not at all facetious here.. Take a step back from everything, take a break and look at the big picture. Things arent as bad as everyone is making them out to be. Relax and realize that the way you are acting is absolutely not helping the political divide you are fanning the flames just like the people over in T_D. None of this was constructive whatsoever, you posted links some of which had absolutely nothing to do with politics simply to push a narrative and then made facts up to support it.. This is insanity but we live in a culture today where people feel like they need to be right and defensive all of the time, no one listens anymore. I honestly do hope that you take this advice because I care about the world we live in and I dont want to see people living in a culture of outrage for their own good, but also for my own good.",
"What does NAZI stand for? ",
"That's true, but I've also heard this about Nixon and even Reagan",
"I remember those days, but my teacher gave us a print out we stapled to our class folder. Made it hella easy to use them.",
"And that's the guy they chose to run America...",
"oh shut the fuck up ",
"> because one article or option you disprove of, don’t blame everyone\n\nIt's not just one article or journalist, and my (very) short list of reasons the media is no longer trusted should demonstrate that. Jayson Blair was at *The New York Times*, Dan Rather was with *CBS*, *NBC* and its cable outlets are constantly getting caught doing shady shit. It is, at this point, literally every single news outlet making serious ethical errors or just plain getting stories wrong. The worst part is when they jump the gun on a story, slap it on the front page/make it the lead item, then issue a half-hearted retraction some time later that gets nowhere near the attention the faulty story received. You guys can downvote until your mouse finger bleeds, but that doesn't change the facts, which show that the media in whole and in part needs to get its shit together. People don't trust the media because of what the media does, not because of anything Donald Trump has to say.",
"Why is Trump's tumblr that bad too?",
"Well today's your lucky day bro because I have some solid advise for ya. Stay off the internet. Simple as that. No matter where you go on the internet these days, you're going to run into politics. It's been like this ever since smartphones and data plans became popular. The fact that you are just now noticing this leads me to believe that your complaining has nothing to do with politics and more to do with it specifically being aimed towards Trump. ",
"Does it really matter? You only have to catch a thief red handed once before people stop trusting him with their stuff. The media destroyed their credibility this year, especially CNN.",
"which Americans?",
"Yup. Looney lefties won’t give up until everywhere is a shithole",
"Except nukes are much less dangerous than people think. The biggest issue is fallout, which needs to be planned around to be dispersed.\n\nFor example, more people died in Japan during the Firebombing, than both nukes combined. \n\nTargeting isn't tough to understand. You need to know where you (the missile) are, where you're target is. And how to go from your current position, to the target. Failure for one of these steps means you can't target.",
"Because Shariablue and fuck drumpf and fuck white people.\n\n",
"Except there is no meddling and it's just people trying to point fingers. \n\nIf there was meddling due to propaganda, not only does that mean that America was sleeping on the job, because that's what both parties do to get their candidate in office, but it's not even illegal. No one was bribed, assassinated, votes faked, etc. \n\nIt's literally stupid on every level to even think it's real. Flat earth style conspiracy right there.",
"I see, so republican majorities of all 3 branches completely eliminates all the checks and balances we have had in place for hundreds of years. Got it. That’s why the wall is currently under construction, and why the travel ban was put in place on the first try.\n\nYes, drawing parallels to adolf fucking hitler is absolutely anti Semitic, because it trivializes the holocaust. Liberals don’t care, because it’s fun to call trump hitler.",
"**SLAMMEDEMMALS**",
"Typo...and once again the question was ignored, as it always is. ",
"* [Native American run over by truck in racial attack](https://www.buzzfeed.com/mikehayes/young-native-american-is-run-down-by-truck-driver-in?utm_term=.uaVvjqA0v#.ieGOo72RO)\n\n* [Chistian Woman leads 30 churchgoers in beating of gay man](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/north-carolina-woman-admits-leading-30-parishioners-in-beating-of-gay-church-member-to-expel-his-demons/)\n\n* [Chicago man yells about slavery and berates a man before punching him](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/watch-white-chicago-man-goes-on-crazed-slave-rant-against-black-starbucks-customers/)\n\n* [Kansas man shoots Indian ; charged with hatecrime](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-kansas-india-idUSKBN19032W)\n\n* [ SC man sets fire to Muslim teenager memorial in DC; teenager was murdered and thrown in pond](http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/262878455-story)\n\n* [ White nationalist tries to run over protesters on motorcycle](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/not-racist-member-of-white-privilege-club-tries-to-run-over-trumpcare-protesters-with-motorcycle/)\n\n* [Man who beat black man and runs him over say he isn't racist](https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertsamaha/this-is-what-they-did-for-fun-a-modern-day-lynching-in-missi?utm_term=.adKQpwJOQ#.pjxnqV6Yn)\n\n* [Cops arrest man who clubb ed woman and vandalized Jewish center](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/colorado-cops-catch-proud-to-be-fascist-trump-supporter-who-clubbed-woman-and-vandalized-jewish-center/)\n\n* [Trump Supporter Wearing 'MAGA' Hat Attacked Three People Near Dupont Circle](http://dcist.com/2017/08/_police_arrested_a_trump.php)\n\n* [Neo-Nazi attacks man driving pedicab because of the shirt he wore](https://archive.is/0P5f2)\n\n* [A suspected white supremacist pulled an AK-47 out on a Black man, but it didn't go as planned](https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/892789385560637441)\n\n* [Black teen beaten by white supremacists](https://archive.is/KD176)\n\n* [Suspect bombs Mosque in Minn](http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/investigators-seek-suspects-minnesota-mosque-bombing-49063579)\n\n* [Man accosts woman after being questioned about flying a Nazi Flag](http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article167144232.html)\n\n* [Rightwing extremist planned to blow up building](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/08/there-was-another-right-wing-terrorist-incident-this-weekend/)\n\n* [Teen caught vandalizing holocaust memorial](http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2017/08/teen_arrested_after_holocaust_memorial_vandalized)\n\n* [KKK leader threatens to burn black journalist](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/kkk-leader-interview-latina-journalist-death-threat-black-woman-video-a7899306.html?cmpid=facebook-post)\n\n* [White supremacist runs down protesters in an act of domestic terrorism](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/12/virginia-unite-the-right-rally-protest-violence)\n\n* [Man admits to lying to police about Antifa stabbing him](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/man-who-claimed-antifa-stabbing-over-white-supremacist-haircut-admits-he-made-up-attack/)\n\n* [Man Wearing 'Make America Great Again' Shirt Arrested After Attacking New Jersey Volunteer: Police](http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/man-wearing-make-america-great-again-tshirt-arrested-new-jersey-pepper-spray-hate-rally-442689533.html)\n\n* [Racists attempt to lynch 8 year old bi-racial boy](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/new-hampshire-police-refuse-to-discuss-apparent-lynching-of-8-year-old-biracial-boy/)\n\n* [Trump supporter runs over sleeping homeless people, killing one](http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/trump-loving-tulsa-man-runs-over-sleeping-homeless-people-in-deadly-truck-rampage/)\n\n* [White nationalist tries to run over protesters in Vancouver, WA](http://www.wweek.com/news/2017/09/10/police-in-vancouver-arrest-man-for-nearly-running-down-antifa-protesters-with-his-truck/)",
"Evidence is EVERYWHERE at this point. If you arent aware that flynn and papo plead guilty and cut deals , that manafort and gates are about to go to trial... and this is just the beginning.... then i cant help you ",
"> So a guy that dislikes gays is similar to a guy that helped murder millions of innocent people?\n\nWell...they both disliked gays so...yeah. They're similar in that regard.",
"Holy fuck this OP is on fire",
"Look at me! I hate Trump! I think he is literaly Hitler! I am so brave and original! ",
"I see what you mean. Those kinds of sites have been around for ages, but I've never seen them called \"fake news sites\" in my two decades on the Internet. I think the usual term is \"content scraper\" or \"[scraper site](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scraper_site)\". \n\n",
"Hold up. You're telling me more than one language has a way of saying \"Untrue news\"? And one of them is German? And Hitler spoke German? \n\nGeez I need some time to think about this.",
"> Because the things he calls fake news arent fake.\n\n[Some of them are](http://thefederalist.com/2017/02/06/16-fake-news-stories-reporters-have-run-since-trump-won/). There's even [someone keeping a running tally](http://thefederalist.com/2017/05/23/13-major-fake-news-stories-just-five-months-trumps-presidency/). I'm not completely disagreeing with you. I know President Trump has called some legitimate stories \"fake news.\" What you fail to realize is that the real problem here is there are enough stories that aren't accurate that President Trump point to when he calls a legit story \"fake\" that he can conflate the good with bad and get people to dismiss both at the same time. From an objective point-of-view the media is giving President Trump cover every time they botch a story.",
"Ironic really, how similar you yourself are to the Trumpers you deride. Both so eager to take pride in ignorance rather than push their own intellectual boundaries to the slightest degree. I guess Einstein should have only ever pondered physics, because men can only ever comprehend a single subject in their lifetimes. That this sort of focused, narrow perception of the world seems to you to be the norm tells me a lot about you as a person. \n\nAgain, feel free to make an argument at any time. Einstein presented one. How do capitalists not inevitably control the press? Does Rupert Murdoch have no influence over his holdings? Why should we expect Time Warner's handling of CNN to differ? Present a logical, compelling reason why Time Warner will avoid the inherent profit motive presented by manipulation of mass media. Please point out the flaw in his reasoning that the structure of our political society into parties conveys influence to those who fund those parties. \n\nIf you're better than a Trump supporter you could give an attempt at using your brain and presenting rational counterpoint to what is apparently a silly argument from one who shouldn't have strayed from physics. \n\nP.s. this being an *excerpt* from a *brief* essay it's far from ironclad, but I've found your type doesn't enjoy much reading and it concisely conveys my point- that the structure of our economy gives media influence to those who own the media, and that this is universally utilized for political gain. If you disagree, provide an argument rather than \"lol Einstein only knew physics\" and other lazy escapes. \n\nP.p.s. It's funny how so many socialists aren't famed for their socialists advocacy. Martin Luther King Jr and his Poor People's Campaign for a Bill of Economic Rights... George Orwell, for his admiration of the anarchists in Catalonia, with whom he fought in the Spanish Civil War (and, yes, he was himself a socialist, having literally stated that everything he'd ever written after 1936 was against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism)... Einstein, obviously- a man whose name has (or, had) become synonymous with intelligence. I wonder if there could be any sort of reason. Could any particular class be controlling the means of education via leveraging political parties? Golly, let's not think about it. \n\n",
"We have a special counsel headed by Mueller that has already indicted four members of the Trump administration. Are those cases of just pointing fingers too? ",
"This means that the press always tells the truth, saying otherwise is akin to being hitler.",
"dae dwanduld qwumpt = hitler",
">\tExcept nukes are much less dangerous than people think. The biggest issue is fallout, which needs to be planned around to be dispersed.\n\nWhich is, of course, why the cold war wasn't a thing, right? Man, good thing there wouldn't be any consequences to a nuclear detonation, other than the fallout. \n\n>\tTargeting isn't tough to understand. You need to know where you (the missile) are, where you're target is. And how to go from your current position, to the target. Failure for one of these steps means you can't target.\n\nYup, nothing to it. Anyone who's read Wikipedia could do it, right? Brilliant.",
"I think people comparing Hitler to Trump is really unfair to Hitler. At least Adolf was a competent politician. ",
"Mmmmm I needed more salt, thanks dude. ",
"Whatever helps you sleep at night ",
"I was insinuating you were an idiot for thinking they were brigading your comment. ",
"I know, Hitler got things done. Trump can't successfully do anything.",
"Do you have evidence that they sat on the story, or simply didn't get the scoop?",
"There is no point being made here, other than \"trump and Hitler were both smeared by the press\".",
"Maybe it's because whenever a bunch of Nazis kill some people he goes and defends them in press conferences. I mean, that's pretty Hitlerish.",
"I would think this kind of childish \"meme, joke? whatever..\" is extremely insulting to the millions that died during WW2.\n",
"He doesn’t just criticize the media. There have been countless examples of him crying fake news for just reporting what’s happening. All while constantly lying through his teeth. ",
"> I think people forget is that hitler wasn’t the evil person we know today. He was elected democratically in 1933. There were no concentrations camps in 1933. There was no persecution of Jews in 1933.\n\nfrom Wikipedia- \"The Concentration Camp at Dachau was opened 22 March 1933, with the arrival of about 200 prisoners from Stadelheim Prison in Munich and the Landsberg fortress (where Hitler had written Mein Kampf during his imprisonment).\"",
"..... someone asked what actual things are worse because of Trump. And then someone said it's worse that Joe Arpaio, someone who harasses people based on their appearance (specifically of latino descent). Do you disagree that Trump has ACTUALLY made things worse in this case? Do you choose not to get familiar with all the things that don't support the fact that Trump has made things worse? ",
"ah sorry. wouldn't want to disturb the mentally challeged. i'll excuse myself.",
"For reporting the truth. This isn’t difficult. ",
"[WOW TRUMP BTFO!](https://imgur.com/a/IjoUL) ",
"Man, I grew up in rural Arkansas and finished my high school and college years in Oklahoma and from what I can tell you, there's a lot of disinformation on the conservative side of the fence. Pretty much all of my extended family lives in the sticks, and from what I've seen for years is that people are close minded and hate \"liberal bull shit\". Liberal bull shit is anything they don't understand. And leadership on the right with figures like Roger Stone and Alex Jones all get people irrationally mad at \"libruls\" for having views they have a problem with for one reason or another. This has been going on for decades, and these types of view points are toxic to any civil political debate because there's so much anger and bias mixed with blatant propaganda talking points. With examples like t_d, it shouldn't surprise you that things like that might be filtered out due solely to indecency alone. It goes past a view point and into being hateful and intentionally insulting. It kind of blows my mind that the absence of that seems unfair to some people. I'm all for freedom of speech, but that shouldn't come in tandem with complete disrespectful for other Americans sharing the same country. ",
"If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck you have to be an idiot to not work under the assumption it's a fucking duck. ",
"I'm pretty sure I've explained this already. It stands for national socialism, in other words: a nationalist redefinition of \"socialism\", with this form taking on a fundamentally different form of socialism as we understand it today. It wasn't so much socialism as it was social darwinism, nationalism, and authoritarianism, unrelated to socialism in all but name and rhetoric style.",
"Consider checking yourself into rehab",
"I'll bet you didn't know that it's entirely possible to come to a country legally, be working towards your citizenship, and still get deported. But whatever, you probably don't care.\n\nAlso, it's like you assume all laws are absolute, fair, and just. They aren't. We should base laws *off of* what's fair. Not the other way around. Plus, America would benefit from being a bit more multicultural.",
"Do you understand how absolutely insane this makes you look? Comparing a man who killed over 6 MILLION PEOPLE to Trump. You claim Trump and his supporters are mentally unfit but look in a fucking mirror. Wow.",
"[in a nutshell](http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/200/369/161.jpg) ",
"Yeah, it’s rightist trash. ",
"So you really think the mainstream media doesn't slant lib?",
"When Hitler started out, he was merely making some racial epithets and claiming fake news and enlisting support from the military.\n\nFascism starts slowly, gradually. It depends on idiots like you who are easily duped by a \"strong\" \"leader\" to really get things rolling. ",
"Mr. Dinkles?",
"I know the meaning of the word genocide and I do consider it to be terrible. I just don't see a big difference in the moral gravity of both acts.",
"The German Press never tried to convince the country Benghazi was started over a youtube video, then it tried to convince it that it never tried to convince it.\n\nPepperidge Farm Remembers, cucks.",
"so i guess you already forgot that he called the people attending a nazi rally (you know, nazis) \"fine people?\"",
"I disagree; I think there's a valid comparison being made. The fascist party in Nazi Germany used terms like \"lugenpresse\" to attack any press that criticized the Nazi party. Trump (and his administration) have used the term \"fake news\" to similar effect. Does that mean Trump is Hitler? No. Does that mean Trump has said, done, and proposed things that we might see from a fascist/authoritarian government? Absolutely.",
"Here in Germany we have every other day some tv documentary about WW2, how it all led to it and so on. Probably to remind us of what bad things we did.\nAnyways, you’re 100% right. It’s a slow process, going exactly like that.\nAlso 100% right about the poster above your comment, spoken about people like that in docu’s.",
"Those are feminazis. You might as well talk about people walking around wearing swastika armbands as if they were the right.",
"Lol, I wish that was the problem.\n\nThe fact that the President of the United States has a well known an extensive history with organized crime, willingness to trade public interest for private gain and apparent legions of angry and ignorant followers. \n\nIt's much, much worse than \"everyone who doesn't share my belief is Russian\"\n\n",
"That isn't what I was disagreeing with, but good job proving my criticisms of your prejudice, and then agreeing with me.",
"Uh, no, it isn't. The violent people being talked about are protestors, the NRA has never advocated violence. This commercial says to fight violence with truth. Boy that sounds very violent",
"See you this november lol",
"Okie doke!",
"If this is implying that Trump is hitler for saying something that also has a word in German, that’s a little unrelated. ",
"Many Trump supporters don't align with the Democrats or Republicans because they see them both as part of the corruption that is infesting America. The 2-party system was created to cause divide in America.",
"So what do atheists 'believe', according to you?",
"DRUMPF WONT RECOVER FROM THIS",
"Obama said Fox News Lies OBAMA IS LITERALLY HITLER!",
"America would not benefit from being a bit more multicultural. No one is better from being more multicultural. Diversity is a strength, multiculturalism is a cancer.",
"95% of Democrats voted for a shutdown. 5% of Republicans voted for a shutdown. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out who the problem here is.",
"I know, right??? If only there was some way to filter out the political posts from /r/pics??? Wouldn't that be great??? And if such a thing were to exist, the mods could sticky a comment with instructions on how to do so on every political post. That would be great, but I guess we'll just never have the technology.\n\n\n>It looks like this post is about US Politics. Various methods of filtering out content relating to US Politics can be found [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/wiki/v2/resources/filter/politics).\n\n>*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/pics) if you have any questions or concerns.*",
"Haha what are you on? Germany post ww1 was a shit show. If we discount all of the countries trying to pick at the barely-walking corpse of the country, you still have a government that tried (and failed) to get the economy out of the dumpster with social spending; you may remember inflation being so bad in Germany that an entire paycheck couldn't even get a loaf of bread. \n\nAfter basically abolishing the treaty of Versailles (as flawed as it was) with the referendum in 1929 it was only a matter of time before dictatorship happened.",
"Yeah 300,000,000 armed citizens are no match for <1,000,000 active duty/reserves.\n\nUnless they are willing to turn the US into a nuclear wasteland, squashing a tyrannical government in the US wouldn't be impossible.",
"How many Jews has Trump killed???? That's right unlike liberals, Trump like Israel. ",
"It was widely reported, but for some reason The Gray Lady didn't cover this obvious bombshell. Even Al-Arabiya covered it. The New York Times ignored the story because it made Black Jesus look bad.",
"This has got to be a bot account. ",
"At its \"best\", ANTIFA is an ill-defined, unorganized group of individuals who claim to stand for an ideology. They could be compared to Anonymous at this point. At it's worst, it's a broad term used by right leaning press and entertainment to label and attack anyone that challenges Trump and his administration.\n\nSo no, I'm not concerned about \"ANTIFA\" because it's essentially akin to the \"boogeyman\".",
"I think it's more progressive than liberal. The times are changing, and we need to start thinking of ways to adapt to this new technological world. What are conservatives thinking? Oil and fewer internet freedoms, for one. The world is becoming more \"liberal\", I just don't think the right has been paying attention to the shift. So now it seems like they're being discriminated against when it's just the natural development of the world. ",
"\"I'm a racist.\" - BasedCavScout\n\nGood to know.",
"They may claim to not align with either, but there is no way that anyone conservative enough to vote for Trump would ever vote for a Democrat.",
"That's what he's saying. Use ue instead.",
"Oh what’s this? An image of a sign comparing the president with Hitler? I’ve never seen this before. ",
"Mueller",
"Would you rather he do nothing like the past three administrations? Hell Clinton literally gave them nuclear reactors because he was ignorant enough to think they’d keep their word. Only a couple months into his admin Trump got China to do a 180 on North Korea, shifting more than they had in decades and cutting off all coal exports. He’s levied the toughest economic sanctions yet but you still just want to whine because he made a comment about nuclear buttons on Twitter ",
"I’m not a Trump fan, but can we please stop comparing people we don’t like to Hitler. It’s starting to lose its impact...",
"DAE think Drumpffy is Litrully Hittler! The up-vote button is to the left.",
"Someone stop this man",
"Lol opinions of morons means nothing. Just because you don't understand what I said doesn't mean it is racist.",
"Hmm seems I have been successfully trolled. Congratulations you managed to take a few minutes of my time.",
"You really need the umlauts there.",
"The problem with people like you is that you don't know anything. You have soundbites but lack knowledge. Do you even know what Balkanization is? Do you understand the difference between diversity and multiculturalism? You dont. It is both frustrating and sad to encounter people like you online that have been completely spoonfed an ideology. I pity people like you, sometimes, but other times it pleases me to watch your failed experiments bite you in the ass. Those who refuse to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.",
"Shit.... Really..? I use them so infrequently, since I'm not bilingual, but that's really cool",
"Oh, well American Republicans definitely don’t have connections to any fascists so no worries there. ",
"To be fair you have cnn and other news organizations doing things like setting up mock interviews with their own employees, having cameramen pretending to be regular citizens and interviewing them in public spaces to push their own agenda.\nThere's a post on reddit that counts every time cnn and others have aired less than truthful news stories. \nBefore trump, no one really trusted the msm, but now that trump calls them fake news, we're supposed to be on their side?\nWhat's the deal with that?",
"lol look they said it again! \n\nComparing someone they don't like to an actual genocidal maniac.",
"I think people who say that have a serious misunderstanding of who Hitler and the Nazi party were. ",
"Lots of KKK have supported the Clintons what's your point? I'm absolutely positive the concept of Super Predators got plenty of disadvantaged inner city black youths murdered by police. I think you are too young to know what the fuck you're talking about. I don't like Trump either but this is asinine.",
"Hitler liked dogs, too. r/aww is racist!",
"Good luck with that. I'll buy a foam finger to support the team!",
"Obviously he’s not 1945 Hitler. But his empty populism and misled scapegoating of minorities seems similar to Nazis before WWII. \n\nI don’t think Trump is genocidal. I don’t think he espouses any positions other than his own greatness, or whatever someone he likes just said. But he stokes hatred in a way that Hitler did and the movement which has coalesced behind him could be one that does even worse than what’s already happening. Literal Nazis who believe in ethnic cleansing support him, so I don’t think it’s so far fetched as to not be a concern. \n\nThe time to stop fascism isn’t after it’s taken hold. ",
"Ok thank you for pretty much agreeing with my points.",
"And he was able to get away with that because he first make the populace be reluctant to believe any press that would report him as having set the fire.",
"The total count is at 55 million dead jews in WW2 because whites let their racism take over.",
"It’s not Godwin’s law if the parallels are direct, right?",
"When the term fake news came out it had NOTHING to do with foreign entities whatsoever. Now that is fake ass news. ",
"Isn't it 5-million non-Jewish people, for a total of 11 million?\n\nOf course that's also only concentration camps. The total cost of lives in Europe and Russia as a result of the Nazis is roughly 100 million.",
"You’re so right. Remember when Hitler never did anything except commit genocide. Like, he dropped out of art school and immediately did the holocaust without first becoming a politician and building support for his agenda and hatred for minorities. \n\nThere are valid criticism of the people who call Trump Hitler, but yours is dumb. ",
"[Precisely.](https://artplusmarketing.com/in-fighting-fake-news-the-mainstream-media-has-poisoned-itself-a5cb32e10a27)",
"17 million in total according to Wikipedia. And yes much much more when you consider the entire casualties of the war itself.",
"> which is kinda ironic.\n\nIt's very fucking ironic.",
">prejudice\n\nI don't think that word means what you think it means. \n\nhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/21/drug-violence-blamed-mexico-record-murders-2017",
"Thankfully, it doesn't quack like a duck, and it doesn't look like a duck to anyone sane",
"Well, the press isn’t paid to be honest and people have known that since the beginning of the press. It’s like Hitler saying it is healthy to avoid sugar. Hitler then proceeded to kill everyone who worked in the sugar plant. The Donald said not to eat so many donuts and candy. ",
"Yeah, weird how a slaveowner is disliked\n",
"Funny how everyone loved Hitler, but everyone hates Trump...",
"So fucking stupid. ",
"I may have misremembered. I think it likely was him - I thought I read or saw that he was actually a liberal but I can’t find anything to substantiate that. Talk about irony ",
"People have been comparing political opposition to hitler since before Obama, so this isn't new.\nTrump uses a lot of nationalistic and nativist rhetoric which some people equate to Hitler.\n\nHonestly it's just political mudslinging. Most people are smart enough to know that Trump is no where near to what Hitler was like, but the media and Trump's political opponents love comparing the two.\n\nIt frustrates me personally because it trivializes who hitler was and what he did. Calling everything hitler or the Nazis devalues the terms to irrelevancy, which is not something that should be done in this kind of political climate.",
"I really wish I could remember which guest it was, but Joe Rogan had a guest on that was your typical SJW moron and he said, essentially, exactly what you did. It really had nothing to do with the actual political conversation it was about that dopamine hit and feeling like you belong to a group and the moral outrage and feeling right because of the massive echo chamber. \n\nHe described getting up in the morning and going to twitter to see what the next moral outrage was and just going and attacking people that didn't believe what he believed - which he only knew he \"believed\" in 30 minutes ago. It was super interesting and definitely worth a listen, I'll try and find it. \n\nEDIT: Found it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24Zr4niKu28",
"But that's the point. It's supposed to be a \"fan page\", not necessarily a place dedicated to discussing politics. Sort of like r/politics is supposed to be.",
"> turning",
"Sort of like how some people want to blame white men for all their problems",
"How dense are you?\n\nIf as you say, Russia could only use online propaganda, what are those 4 people charged with? \n\nWhat I'm saying is there's no evidence Russia did anything. No Pro Trump ad campaign, no anti Clinton campaign. Nothing.\n\nSo what did those 4 people actually do? ",
"I got downvoted before I added that, but whatever dude. ",
"You people are so fucking stupid. ",
"I'm not lying, you're just wrong. \"Fake news\" is an Obama creation. You have the timeline wrong, Obama coined the term.\n\nThe Obama Administration, not satisfied with having every major media outlet in their corner, tried to go full-Goskomizdat and censor any remaining conservative media in the run-up to the 2016 presidential election.\n\nDo you not remember the initiative to create an internet ministry of truth via [Snopes, Facebook and Google, to control what news is 'approved'](http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/12/16/soros-finances-group-helping-facebook-flag-disputed-stories/)? Do you not remember when Obama authorized and legalized [domestic propaganda](https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-24/obama-signs-countering-disinformation-and-propaganda-act-law)? Or when he [tried to shut down conservative talk radio](https://www.intellihub.com/obama-attacks-talk-radio-hints-censorship-alternative-media/)?",
"You honestly thought that was a good thing to post? ",
"He/she's right though, it isn't relevant. And it's stupid to assume how someone would act based on nothing. All conservatives do is whataboutism because you can't actually support what your people are doing. ",
"Obama coined the term? My dear child:\n \nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news\n \nWhile fake news is a real thing, Trump has gone full hitter on the mainstream media https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lying_press\n \n \nI guarantee you the stuff that is going to come out about conservative media, is going to prove Russia to be balls deep in. And while freedom of speech is cool, if it’s Russian propaganda handed down to US conservatives as a way to upend our democracy... that’s not gonna fly... ",
"Prejudice. Pre = previous to, before. Judice = judgement.",
"This is actually a pretty good point. I feel like these comparisons give a lot of credit to Trump, ironically, and blow the situation way out of proportion. The idea that Trump would have the ability or desire to seize control of the entire government, much less want to execute a full-scale genocide, is almost funny. Absolute worst-case scenario, Trump plays a small role in hurting the economy, sets back international relations, and makes a lot of people lose their minds getting angry at him. None of these things are *good*, but comparing them to what Hitler did is insulting and a super obvious overreaction.\n\nI wouldn't say that Hitler was exactly a \"genius\", but he was definitely a much more astute manipulator and politician, and in some sense believed he was acting to make his country better. I'd say Trump is more of a opportunistic con-man, and it's very very obvious that he's only looking out for himself.\n\nPretty much the only meaningful ways that they overlap is using minorities as scapegoats (but that's true of so many politicians over the last century) and in believing that the whole world is against them.",
"You right.",
"> Actual Lugenpresse became a plague in 2015. Purposely misleading, unverified news stories aimed at democrats\n\n",
"The difference here is that Hitler took control of the media and Trump has not. Also did y'all know that Obama detained many journalists with the espionage act while Trump as much as he bashes the media has not?",
"I have no comment on the rest of your post, American politics aren't my problem, but are you being serious in saying that *the only time in your life that you've felt truly safe was at a protest march*? Do you not feel safe at home, with your loved ones? I'm sorry that sounds like an awful life mate, my condolences.",
"That’s what socialism does to a country. Mass genocide. ",
"Honestly, if a Democrat candidate even shared a little bit of Trump's ideology of putting America's interests first, I'm sure a lot of people who voted for Trump would switch sides. Another problem is that there is so much corruption within the Democratic Party that they've kind of sullied their name in the eyes of most Trump supporters. You might even say Trump supporters view most politicians as \"puppets\", whereas Trump is one of the first to break that image. He pays for himself, so he has no obligations to special interests.",
"It’s not happening. \n\nBen Shapiro is a conservative superstar right now. And he wears his yarmulke out in public. ",
"Obama used the term *fake news* quite publicly in November of 2016, Trump used it in early 2017. Sorry if you don't believe it, maybe Snopes can tell you what you want to hear.",
"So to recap, when you said, \"can you point to me one thing he’s done that’s actually against the constitutional checks and balances,\" you did not mean an ongoing campaign to weaken or sow distrust in those checks and balances, you did not mean missing the deadline to implement a bill passed by one of those checks and balances, and you did not mean doing everything he could to sabotage a law which it was his job to enforce. You *only* meant what, like, a violent uprising or coup? Declaring martial law and naming himself president-for-life? What a stupid argument. If you're going to be so absurdly limited in what things you'll accept as counter to your case, then don't even bother saying, \"can you point to me one thing,\" when there isn't actually one thing you'd accept. At least do people the courtesy of not presenting the false illusion that you're receptive to data and evidence when you're clearly not.",
"I hope you know that upon the last election that brought Hitler to power there were more total votes for the communist and far-left parties than for the NSDAP.\n\nThe Axis delivered a shot in the leg to Communism with the war. A communist Germany would be the burst dam that would cause revolution to steamroll Europe and then the Americas. \n\nYou would be in a commune right now, subject to the will of a peoples' tribunal and living a meaningless life if it weren't for the events that transpired in our timeline.\n\nI am not exaggerating in the slightest.",
"I don't care about the karma, I was pointing it out because it isn't conducive to having an actual conversation to blindly downvote anything you don't want to hear, especially when the person may not actually think all that differently from you. Not sure why I'm bothering to explain that to someone who unironically says \"reee\" though. You keep on doing what you do if it makes you feel happy, but you just come out looking like a child. ",
">Do you even know what Balkanization is?\n\nI'll admit I didn't know there was a term for it, but I'm aware of the role it's been playing in the US over the past few years.\n\n>Do you understand the difference between diversity and multiculturalism?\n\nI do. I'm sure you do too. But I'd like to know your interpretation of it. It sounds like it would be entertaining to watch you try to justify how saying \"multiculturalism is a cancer\" is somehow not racist. Especially how you also said diversity is a strength. From that I can only assume either A) you don't actually know what multiculturalism is, and when you said \"diversity\", you actually meant muticulturalism. Or B) you're just a racist.\n\nMulticulturalism: (verbatim from google) *\"The presence of, or the support for the presence of several or distinct cultural or ethnic groups within a society.\"*\n\nLike, right here, you could have made the argument that it wouldn't benefit the US because of all the rampant racism. (ie, cultural tolerance is low, so tensions are high) But you didn't. By saying what you said, you essentially agreed you were a part of that group that wouldn't accept other ethnic groups. Which is racist.\n\nLet me ask you something. Do you (conciously or unconciously) hold a fundamental belief that some races, ethnicities, or cultures are inheritly lesser that your own (or others)? I want you to actually answer this.\n\n>Failed experiments\n\nLol what?\n\n>Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.\n\nConsidering we're on a post that points out how Donald Trump uses WWII era propaganda tactics, I find this pretty laughable. What am I even doomed to repeat exactly? Division of a country I don't even live in?",
".... The comment chain you're on right now. Are you on drugs or something?",
"Yeah that's obviously what I meant. Why would I know what your skin color is, retard? Jesus you people get dumber every fuckin day I swear",
"Except the press does lie, all the time.",
"I get this strong sense that you don't know anything about weimar republic or hitler. I didn't vote for Trump, but over the course of the last year I've become anti-anti-trump because the hysteria is unfettered lunacy. I'm not going to argue in good faith whether trump is literally hitler because that is fucking retarded and you would have be retarded and completely ignorant of history or even current events to engage in that retarded conversation.",
"I’m not denying that Obama used it. Fake news is a real thing. Obama was addressing a real phenomena and a serious problem that was being injected into our public discourse..... DURING THE ELCTION.\n \nThe difference here is that Trump is openly using it against any media that doesn’t “treat him fairly”. Trump took the term to muddy the water of truth as the flodgates of all his corruption are opened. \n \nBig difference. Obama is using responsible and productive usage... Trump is misleading and using it in the way that Hitler did. ",
"Yeah I'll be honest I was kinda frightened at the end of 2015 when he said he'd outright ban muslims from entering the U.S. and I bought it, until I saw how little he's capable of because of his absolute lack of knowledge of leadership and the fact that he's so historically unpopular and has pissed off too many people in power to get what he really wants.",
"I remember when Hitler recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel!",
"These are the same arguments that we've made all along to rationalize how NK couldn't possibly succeed in building a bomb or delivery device that could impact the US, and yet they appear to have made enough progress that we are already in range, and we can't pat ourselves on the back anymore that they'll just fall harmlessly into the ocean. Fast computer hardware is widely available that can \"do a lot of math.\"\n\nThe fact that an engineering problem is hard doesn't mean NK can't do it. They wouldn't be the first.",
"You may have forgotten the topic that this thread is about. Hitler and Trump using the same tactic. \n \n",
"Obama literally fucking spied on journalists so don't give me that crap.",
"Did he really say bamboozle lol",
"We've completed retaken all of the land they once held in Syria and Iraq. \n\nhttp://www.businessinsider.com/isis-military-defeat-iraq-syria-2017-11",
"You clearly. Cannot read. It's fine. Not everyone makes it there.",
"> I’m not denying that Obama used it. Fake news is a real thing\n\n> You may have forgotten the topic that this thread is about. Hitler and Trump using the same tactic\n\nMake up your mind pal!",
"\n> \nYou would be in a commune right now, subject to the will of a peoples' tribunal and living a meaningless life if it weren't for the events that transpired in our timeline.\n\nand\n\n> \nI am not exaggerating in the slightest.\n\nNo you're just wildly speculating. Within the left , the communists weren't the ones with the most vote, on the right the nazis were that's a big difference right there. \n\nI'm glad that you're at least not claiming that the nazis were communists/socialists /leftists",
"All the time? I just read an article about the Patriots winning today. No lies in that one.",
"Good luck with your fascist govt",
"Shut your pie hole you filthy commie.",
"Of course! Getting North and South Korea to actually hold a conference with each other, cutting down illegal immigration, raising the pay for people fighting for our country, sending the stock market to the highest it’s been in the 21st century, and moving our embassy to the eternal capital of Israel is nothing! Sorry to hurt your snow flake feelings because I know how precious they can really be. But Trump got more shit done that has benefited the United States than Obama did in 8 years. The fact that you would even compare Hitler to Trump is pathetic. You have no idea what facism is. ",
"And honest question. What is your opinion on Russia? Big fan? ",
"I remember how it played.\n\nCNN was talking about the \"FBI dossier\" for a few days without publishing it, THEN Buzzfeed released it to show what the other media were talking about.\n\nSomehow all the blame went to Buzzfeed, not the media who started it.",
"It's true, I am in fact a Russian robot, not a true patriotic American who's sick of you lefty pukes, beep boop beep",
"If Hitler was not in the picture, Ernst Thälmann would have become Chancellor and as a zealous revolutionary would have cooperated with the Soviets to export the revolution across Europe, and then the world. \n\nThe Axis, for better or worse, fatally damaged the red empire in the War and doomed it to a very slow death in the Cold War.\n\nI have a suspicion you would like to live in a \"stateless, classless, moneyless, borderless\" world utopia, regardless. People like you tend to despise hierarchy, have a naive trust of human nature, and suck as much hedonistic pleasure out of life as possible because you fear death. ",
"Kind of a non sequitur",
"You just admitted that Obama used the same *lying press* shtick that Trump and, yes, Hitler did. In short, you're an idiot.",
"Boy it’s almost like what the modern left in the US calls the “rich” and any white rural voter. Weird how history repeats itself ",
"I tried. Voted for Gary Johnson myself. ",
"You mean nationalism. ",
"Maybe we could start comparing Baron Trump to 1901 Hitler🤔🤔🤔",
">\nIf Hitler was not in the picture, Ernst Thälmann would have become Chancellor and as a zealous revolutionary would have cooperated with the Soviets to export the revolution across Europe, and then the world.\n\nYou do not know this. You're assuming the votes that went to hitler would go to the left or would be split evenly, this is just wild speculation and not really logical.\n\n> \nI have a suspicion you would like to live in a \"stateless, classless, moneyless, borderless\" world utopia, regardless. \n\nThis too is literally baseless speculation\n\n> \nPeople like you tend to despise hierarchy, have a naive trust of human nature, and suck as much hedonistic pleasure out of life as possible because you fear death.\n\nMan you must have a lot of problems with your farm fields because that's a whole lot of strawmans you just set up.",
"No. Limited internet isn't a conservative viewpoint. That's just our gov't being for sale to the corporate overlords. Not one side or the other but the whole thing. Corporations are buying elections and that's not going to change anytime soon because the right sized checks are going into the right pockets. Congress represents the worst scumbags of our society. \n\nThe entire SJW movement is a farce and will eventually blow away. Eventually they have to hit bottom and common sense is slowly going to work its way back into fashion. Kowtowing to SJW demands will be exposed as the worthless exercise some of us always knew it to be. ",
"Because it was about the person I was addressing downvoting instead of having an actual argument against my point, as I've already said. Why are you so obsessed with this? I've made my point clear, and you're just making yourself look stupider. I can see you need to have the last word so you can feel like you won some weird internet argument, so I'm not gunna reply to you anymore. ",
"And Alt+F4 for spellcheck...",
"You just link it to their bot program, they don't do it automatically.",
"Dude. I’d like to believe you are a smart person. Do you think the Washington post is the same as \nprivate-eye.co.uk?\n \nDo you realize that there was an influx of fake news sent simply to destroy the political environment even further? This is what Obama,the intelligence community as well as all of our western foreign allies were warning against? \n \nWho does Trump consider fake news? He just had an award ceremony. Handing out fake news awards to cnn, Washington post etc. not these people https://i.imgur.com/YnmxQUq.jpg \n \nyes I get it. Infowars is on that list, and he’s not gonna call out his buddy Alex Jones, a guy who thinks sandy hook was a hoax and that man never landed on the Moon. ",
"At least that one guy can grow a stash. That other one looks like a real shithole.",
">the way the term “fake news” was transformed from a very clear-cut meaning of “intentionally-faked news articles” to a meaning of “news that criticizes me.”\n\nI don't think the meaning, i.e. the definition, has changed. That would imply that Trump is being correct, which he is not.",
"Not saying your a russian bot. Just curious about your opinion on Russia. ",
"Okay, makes sense. Thanks. ",
"**TRUMP DROVE A CAR, YOU KNOW WHO ELSE DID? HITLER!**\n\n\n\n\n\n\n**TRUMP HAS A WIFE, YOU KNOW WHO ELSE DID? HITLER!**\n\n\n\n\n",
"And you know what? I know what you’re trying to do. Muddy the waters of reality. It’s all you people can do to try to smoke screen for the smash and grab this White House is doing on our democracy, institutions and constitution. You’re probably a smart enough guy to know the difference between Obama’s usage, and Trumps irresponsible usage. If not, im also not surprised. Your lying leader has got your head upside down.. but it looks like you’re playing the game. And you are not doing our country any favors. ",
"I hope you feel better about yourself now, lil guy. ",
"1. Source? The only news story I could find is this and it was likely an unproven hoax: https://www.snopes.com/kkk-endorses-hillary-clinton/\n2. I don't see how her offhand remark (which she apologized for) in a speech is directly correlated to innocent black youths being gunned down by police.\n3. I'm 31. You don't get to dismiss my arguments by assuming i'm some child.",
"The quote is \"out of you and me\" so....",
">The history of 2016 US elections",
"FYI \"Fake news\" was originally coined by the left.\n\n>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/25/lynch-mob-left-fake-news-experts/\n\nIt was re-appropriated quite hilariously by the right to mock the far left leaning media with their own invention.\n\nEssentially the term changed from literal fake news to \"Deliberate obfuscation and manipulation.\"\n\nEssentially Trump is attacking state sanctioned propaganda.\n\nYou really need to understand American politics and how investments work. \n\nOne of the most egregious examples is CNN. CNN's broadcast ownership is Turner Broadcasting.\n\nTurner Broadcasting unsurprisingly was among the list of Media super giants who gave mountains of cash to the Clintons in hope for some sort of leverage.\n\n>https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/05/clinton-foundation-donors-include-dozens-of-media-organizations-individuals-207228\n\nYou're being poisoned by state sanctioned propaganda and the useful idiots in the street are just part of the problem.\n\nMost of you will down vote this but maybe a few people can break the programming and maybe start wondering why all the media titans seem to not align with smaller journalism outlets.\n\nFYI: Because this is going to happen. Yes FOX NEWS is part of the problem and Trump fluffing their feathers is contradictory to his mission statement. There. I saved you the trouble.",
"Actually that's a good idea. Going to cross-post this post to cringeAnarchy. Godwin's law is fun.",
"And now we wait.",
"Because studying one of the most powerful Orators that ever existed couldn't possible have any merits outside of nefarious ends.",
"Nah, it was \"muslim\" there.",
"This is the MO for Democrats and leftists every time they don't get their way. Kick and scream like little babies and call everyone you dislike \"literally Hitler.\"\n\nhttp://americanbuilt.us/images/war-criminals/hitler-vs-bush.jpg",
"I don't like them either, but shills are still people.",
"Did you see the front page during the net neutrality debacle?\n\nLet's not pretend here. You just want to reaffirm your prejudice and bias. \n\nIt's pitiful.",
"Yeah. Every year NK grows more deadly. Next year they could kill more than this year. \n\nProcrastination isn't going to make it any easier. They need to be nipped.",
"When your users have to filter out 90% of the content to enjoy their experience maybe it's indicative of a larger problem.",
"> When your users have to filter out 90% of the content to enjoy their experience maybe it's indicative of a larger problem.\n\n",
"[Not all of 4chan plans succeeded](https://i.imgur.com/jiSl7f5.jpg)",
"First off, good job cleaning out your profile!\n\nDo you not see the ultimate irony in all of this? You are an troll who [\"loves\" Milo](https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/5u0aoe/black_lives_matter_leader_calls_white_people/ddrn9zk/) and of course an outspoken [Trump supporter](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/5uej1u/theres_a_term_for_presidents_like_trump/ddtp1w1/). [You also beg for food, from the kindness of others, on the internet](https://www.reddit.com/r/Random_Acts_Of_Pizza/comments/7rncah/requesthad_to_make_that_fateful_decision/) while simultaneously preaching stances that ensure people like you would have very limited options and most likely be left begging for food. \n\nThere are so many selfish morons just like yourself out there, they are against the same very social programs they rely on. Usually on Reddit we can't see how many of people in /r/t_d are on ACA or taking social welfare. But here we are with you, a loud mouthed asshole begging for help while also ensuring that people in your vary same position will be left with very little options.\n\nSeriously look at yourself, you need to turn your life around. You get out what you put in, shit in, shit out. Do yourself a favor, when you wake up tomorrow try to do something different with your life. Cut back on the video games and weed, stop betting on CS GO to pay your bills, and stop being a troll. Then you won't be in a place in your life where you are begging on the internet for food where you get called out for being an asshole and then you whine about it.",
"I don't trust Putin any further than I can throw the man.\n\nNevertheless, according to two left-leaning reporters embedded in Hillary's campaign, [the Russian collusion story was made up by John Podesta and Robby Mook at Hillary's Brookyn headquarters within 24 hours of her losing the election](http://www.independentsentinel.com/liberals-say-john-podesta-robby-mook-wrote-russia-narrative-24-hours-hillary-lost/). In other words, it's complete bullshit.",
"I think it's insulting. \n\n\nWhen called Hitler served his country.\n\n\nHe wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth.\n\n\nHe definitely wasn't a Russian pawn.\n\nSo please don't compare the two.",
"Someones gotta call out these trumpet snowflakes",
"As did I. Not my first choice personally but I thought he would be decent.",
"Trump hasn't even remotely moved in that direction. I don't see any false wars. Mueller lied about Weapons of Mass Destruction and many people died under Bush. Now he is investigating the Trump team. Interesting... as you defined it, a murderer is given a very important task. Uh-oh.",
"Lol just shut up, you lost the argument ",
"I wouldn't necessarily trust a site named \"private-eye.co.uk\" without knowing more about them and their methods. Twenty years ago, though, a little known website called \"drudgereport\" brought down Bill Clinton.\n\nI used to take *The Washington Post* at face value. [I no longer do.](https://i.redd.it/bqn84ionltxy.png) You shouldn't either.",
"Read the goddamn article, it has the quote in it. The only reason why he refuses to is because he's sealioning me.",
"Talk to your doctor about TDS",
"> The 'list' you speak of was created by Obama, yes\n\nSo we agree. All else is you rambling on trying to justify your Trump hate boner. Glad we settled that.",
"Hitler comparison is juvenile . ",
"Lame. Was this one at that super awesome women’s march that accomplished absolutely nothing?",
"What’s going to come out in your opinion about conservative media??",
"Contradicting history and textbooks by saying Hitler was a socialist does not make Hitler a socialist lol",
"Weird that you'd [mock your own logic.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rxt2e/lugenpresse/dt0pnv1/)",
"oh, god bless you",
"The economy only improved because Trump cut taxes for rich people, right?\n\nTrickle-down economics totally works!!!",
"Prove me wrong.",
"I was on reddit during the election. The amount of Russian activity was insane. Every Trump supporter was going on about Hillary starting ww3 with Russia. A Russian scare tactic. Lots of Putin love. Before the election really got going. The Russia thing is real. From Felix Sater to Michael Flynn. Those guys embedded deep into this administration. \n \nDo you think Trump is going to sign the Russian sanctions on time? It’s due next week. He dragged his feet for 3 months last time. Unprecedented. ",
"I’m going to go ahead and keep trusting the Washington post. They brought down Nixon after all. ",
"Not believing blacks are non-human is not anti-evolution. Not believing in evolution and not allowing it to be taught in schools (only in red states) is anti-evolution. I think you've proven my point perfectly.",
"That Russia has been infiltrating and influencing conservative talking points for a while now. \n \nRobert Mercer put one of the Breitbart writers/editors as the PR man for Russian olegarch Dmitry Rybolovlev ffs. \n \nThis article was 5 years ahead of the story... \nhttps://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/12/vladimir-putin-conservative-icon/282572/\n \n",
"Hitler oddly enough ran into a similar problem.",
"Except the list was *just* that. A list. To identify nations. Obama didn't use it for a travel ban. Glad we settled on the fact you can't understand basic logic. But you're a Trump voter, so we knew that.",
"Yeah, if we strike down Citzens United and stop the gerrymandering, I'd really like to see what the *true* majority is. Spoiler, there are more dems than reps eligible to vote every day. I don't have the stats to support this, but I'd bet more republicans are dying than dems. Just because the base is typically older. \n\nNatural evolution of the world.",
"That wasn't his point. He said 'no one talks like that', specifically *like* the way Trump did. Which is true, if you talk like that then I'd imagine you're a pretty big piece of shit. \n\nI've said fucked up shit like \"I'd drink her bathwater just to see where it came from\" but that's obviously a joke, a far cry from admitting you made a move on a married woman and that you assume people will just let you grab their pussy because you're a billionaire. ",
"I would agree except I definitely believe more people evolve from dem to repub as they find out the way of the world than the contrary. ",
"I mean socialism. \n\nSure nationalism does too but not near as effectively as socialism. \n\nMao, Stalin, Hitler\n\nAll have one thing in common. Socialism. ",
"I would also caution that we don't know what the popular vote would be because we don't use the popular vote. My state will always go dem because the vote is dominated by a handful of cities that are populated by libs and minorities that will always vote lib so I rarely bother voting. I'm sure there are dems that have the same story but I'm not sure what the ratios are on that. Also I anecdotally wonder if there is a bigger silent majority on the repub side that are just doing their thing and can't be bothered. I wonder if you somehow magically compelled everybody to vote how it would break down. Imagine if we had a 3rd option?!?!?",
"Haha, yeah that's what I was thinking after researching it. Maybe you read fake news about fake news",
"I did ctr+f \"should have nukes\" and got nothing. I tried \"should\" and got one hit, which was the author saying that Trump said Japan should have nukes. \n\nIt looks like Trump never actually said that. I searched high and low for the quote when that headline first popped up, never found it.",
">only Republicans have gone \"full retard\"\n\n\nI wish, but no. Both parties are garbage because both parties are full of politicians.",
"N^o^t^r^e^a^l^c^o^m^m^u^n^i^s^m",
"Cool. Not arguing that. Just stating facts.",
"In fairness, it's not like there weren't idiots calling Obama a Muslim and shouting about birth certificates. Politics makes idiots out of everyone.",
"I asked for evidence they sat on the story, you provided none. I think Politico broke the story, but used a good amount of anonymous sources. I think the story has since been confirmed, but it was apparently a part of the Iran nuclear deal, so it was a bit of balancing out some drug money making it to Hezbollah vs. Iran developing a nuke. We can argue about if that was a good move or not, but I asked if you have evidence and you came back with conjecture.",
"Show me. Show me one instance.",
"Why didn't NYT print a single word about It? They had plenty of print space to stick up for [this nasty pedophile](http://archive.is/R69Jh), but the Obama administration allowing terrorists to profit from cocaine sales in America, \"meh.\"",
"That woman who got murdered in Charlottesville by one of the Nazis there. Afterwards Trump said \"there are good people on both sides.\" ",
"i never once said the BBC doesn't have click bait, that is your poor reading comprehension.\n\nBBC's strength is its lack of yellow journalism and strong bias.\n\n ",
"You think everyone on the right in Charlottesville was a Nazi?",
"The fucking rabbit hole of a corporate owned police state started about 40 years ago, and is willfully abetted by both sides of the aisle, as witnessed by such things as the bipartisan support of the FISA extensions.\n\nLaying it at the feet of the current idiot ignores the previous administrations that have been complicit in the process. ",
"They were literally marching around with torches screaming \"the Jews will not replace us\" while being led by someone who is openly a white supremacist \n\nI'm thinking those are Nazis ",
"That's one of several definitions, one that is the easiest to defend. Part of the reason /r/atheism gets a bad rap is this obstinate refusal to acknowledge that there are other definitions, and what they insist is the definition of atheist is very commonly referred to as being agnostic. Their definition may be more etymologically coherent, but it comes with it's own set of problems (e.g. do beliefs *really* function as binary systems? What's the point of the agnostic modifier if you're going to claim that certainty is impossible anyway?)",
"\"most of the stories the BBC runs are clickbait,\" ***utterly false***. they run click bait, but not even close to most. https://i.gyazo.com/c3e31b8ac055754988630b99778c7079.jpg\n\n\n\"then it's reliable clickbait?\" you can have reliable clickbait ***yes***. its just a technique in the end although often favoured by yellow journalism.\n\n\ntry again :)",
"See and this is where your brainwashing shows through. Nothing you just extrapolated was actually there. What I said was that diversity is a strength. It is. Having diverse people that come from all kinds of backgrounds is beneficial. This, however, is only beneficial if everyone shares relatively the same beliefs. This is not multiculturalism, this is diversity. Diversity is governable. Multiculturalism is a society full of multiple beliefs and moral structures. This is a cancer to a society seeking peace. You already grasped a small portion of it by realizing the immense amount of conflict that comes with multiculturalism partially due to racism but mainly a difference of beliefs. This isn't even debatable. This is well-known and accepted in most circles. Can you even name an instance of a great empire or massively successful civilization that thrived on multiculturalism? You can't because it has never happened.",
"r/bestof :(",
"you are mentally retarded apparently. lol.",
"Spoken like true uninformed millennial: WWI, Woodrow Wilson a democrat was in charged; WWII FDR another democrat, Vietnam War escalated during JFK, and LBJ both democrats; so this anti-war hippie BS is only partially true, but it's been sold by the establishment propaganda that conservatives are the war mongers when both are complicit, no one has clean hands.\n\nThe foreign policy of the last 25 yrs has been a disaster, they (bush + clinton + bush + obama) tried to remake the middle east at the expense of countless of lives and money, all perpetrated by the military industrial complex and the permanent bureaucracy in DC who couldn't give two sh*ts about you or me. ",
"You're preaching to the choir in this regard. I think we should be totally revising our immigration policies and improving it overall when it comes to this. Illegal immigration has indeed filled many gaps and helped us out tremendously in the USA.\n\nThat said, we can't have people running across the border and dropping their kids off to become automatic citizens. That's something completely different and inappropriate in my opinion.\n\nLet's work to improve our policies, but close the loopholes at the same time.",
"Proof please. ",
"Keep your head up your own ass if you want :) ",
"In Europe. ",
"Lazy anti-semitism. If you're going to troll, troll boldly. ",
"See my comment above. You didn't even try at all.",
"LoL you hate Trump and his supporters. \nThe oh so tolerant left... You all are nothing but hypocrites with no morales. ",
"I feel like the whole \"camps\" thing is valid but at a certain point overplayed in it's constant repetition. \n\nThe Nazi's killed around 5 million of **their own people**. I guess morally it's easy to say \"they deserved to die\" but your own self-interest you gotta realize - joining a group of extremists often means them sending you out to die for their own benefit. \n\n\n\n",
"What fucking loopholes man? You are a walking nativist bingo board. You literally just described the word “anchor baby”. You want to deport natural born American children because their parents are Honduran? Are you trekking 400 miles in the desert while 9 months pregnant? Is anyone? Where are these problems you are so concerned about manifesting themselves? You have yet to explain any problems with this other than you don’t like it and it’s unfair. ",
"People with masters in chemistry don't stoop to childish levels of discourse as you have. You're just a poor, angry troll. Get a life.",
"\"...any one who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices.\"\n\n- Voltaire",
"What's funny is if you look into how the Nazi's actually operated you'll find them having more in common with the feminists this time around than the conservatives. \n\n- Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it. \n- If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed. \n- The broad masses of a population are more amenable to the appeal of rhetoric than to any other force. \n- But the most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly and with unflagging attention. It must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over. Here, as so often in this world, persistence is the first and most important requirement for success. \n- If you win, you need not have to explain...If you lose, you should not be there to explain! \n- The victor will never be asked if he told the truth. \n- He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future. \n- I begin with the young. We older ones are used up but my magnificent youngsters! Are there finer ones anywhere in the world? Look at all these men and boys! What material! With you and I, we can make a new world. \n- I use emotion for the many and reserve reason for the few. \n- The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation. \n- Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise. \n- He who would live must fight. He who doesn't wish to fight in this world, where permanent struggle is the law of life, has not the right to exist. \n\nI read that feminist recently held a large rallies where they wore matching uniforms and exalted themselves as the master race. Wait...I got that wrong. Feminists held large \"marches\" where they wore matching \"hats\" and declared \"women are the future\". \n\n-------------------------------------------------------- \n\n> \"This is the first demand we must raise and do [reversal of the Versailles Treaty provisions]: that our people be set free, that these chains be burst asunder, that Germany be once again captain of her soul and master of her destinies, together with all those who want to join Germany. (Applause) \n> And the fulfillment of this first demand will then open up the way for all the other reforms. And here is one thing that perhaps distinguishes us from you [Austrians] as far as our programme is concerned, although it is very much in the spirit of things: our attitude to the Jewish problem. \n> For us, this is not a problem you can turn a blind eye to-one to be solved by small concessions. For us, it is a problem of whether our nation can ever recover its health, whether the Jewish spirit can ever really be eradicated. Don't be misled into thinking you can fight a disease without killing the carrier, without destroying the bacillus. Don't think you can fight racial tuberculosis without taking care to rid the nation of the carrier of that racial tuberculosis. This Jewish contamination will not subside, this poisoning of the nation will not end, until the carrier himself, the Jew, has been banished from our midst. (Applause) \n. \n> \"If I am ever really in power, the destruction of the Jews will be my first and most important job. As soon as I have power, I shall have gallows after gallows erected, for example, in Munich on the Marienplatz-as many of them as traffic allows. Then the Jews will be hanged one after another, and they will stay hanging until they stink. They will stay hanging as long as hygienically possible. As soon as they are untied, then the next group will follow and that will continue until the last Jew in Munich is exterminated. Exactly the same procedure will be followed in other cities until Germany is cleansed of the last Jew!\" (quoted in John Toland, Adolf Hitler. London: Book Club Associates, 1977, p.116) \n. \n> \"Why does the world shed crocodile’s tears over the richly merited fate of a small Jewish minority? … I ask Roosevelt, I ask the American people: Are you prepared to receive in your midst these well-poisoners of the German people and the universal spirit of Christianity? We would willingly give everyone of them a free steamer-ticket and a thousand-mark note for travelling expenses, if we could get rid of them.\" \n\nIsn't it funny how much this sounds like feminism if you just replace \"Jew\" with \"Straight White Male\"?",
"turn that frown upside down...",
">Sure, I may suck, but you suck too\n\nThat isn't an argument",
"an agnostic atheist is still open to the possibility God exists which may very well alter their decisions a la Pascal's Wager",
"an agnostic atheist would still be subject to the logic of Pascal's Wager whereas a \"gnostic atheist\" would not and I don't see the problem with treating something like the belief \"Jesus is lord\" or \"some higher power deity exists\" as binary.",
"More Trump/political garbage in /r/pics. Fuck's sake.",
"Nationalism is not the same this as having a sense of pride in proving the sate of the country. Nationalism is a conservative ideology shared by both Hitler and Trump. \n\nAnd I don't agree with your politics on refugees!",
"I said it's not comparable to the Holocaust. ",
"whatever",
"Is that actually why you think I don't want those 200,000 people (who've lived here for 17 years) to be fired/deported? You really think I care about those votes? \n\nRead the article; these are Temporary Protected Status holders (TPS), and they cannot vote. ",
"Edit:\n\nFed the troll the information it wanted, troll continued to spew trumpian levels of projection, hate and ignorance. \n\nMy bad! That guy is beyond pathetic. Another example of American anti-intellectualism taking root. ",
"I'm literally watching you right now. ",
"This post is ironic and moronic. Don't really have anything else to say. ",
"Because r/pics likes the left. ",
"That's the old soviet plan. Back then an actual \"ideological spy\" would go to the west and \" make people\" support soviet ideas. This is no longer the case. The Russian today are working to destabilize the west, but I would guess they use the internet more then colleges and they use confusion and lies (fake news, the real one as in false articles and videos) instead of a ideological brainwash",
"You sound like an antifa retard.",
"The guy who proofread Hitler's speeches was a literal grammar Nazi. (They said for the thousandth time.)",
"Nope. I support policies that will actually help me as an individual. I don't vote for commies and globalists. ",
"When you assume you make an ass out of you and me is the expression you were trying to write. But I guess your brain no work good. ",
"Yeah for sure. I came to the same conclusion, can’t explain otherwise why they are so incoherent ",
"I'd disagree with you there. As long as we allow Russia to operate within their own sphere of influence without interference they have no reason to. If anything they want the US as an ally against the Islamization of Eastern Europe. \n\nTruth no one wants to admit is Hillary was just a shitty candidate. No one cost her the election except her own corruption and lack of good ideas. She's blamed Russia, fake news, etc. but can't see any blame in herself. ",
"And everything /u/Gallowboob touches. ",
"And then degenerate chris Cuomo said it was the same as the n word. ",
"No, again you don’t understand the founding of the government. They were suppose to compete and fight against the other. Not physically, but that’s the whole idea. One isn’t stronger, however they shouldn’t just be passing legislation like a knife through butter, unless it’s overtly agreed upon. I presume you’re not American and don’t know the historical context, however they feared an overtly strong central power, and designed them to fight amongst each other to prevent said issue.",
"All of a sudden the liberals are gonna act like the press has NEVER lied before lol\n\nThe press literally led us to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Or do you just have selective memory?",
"Didn't say eveyone who doesn't like Trump is Ulrta left. I'm saying the Ulrta left are spamming this section with leftist images.",
"Canada is pretty goddamn multicultural. How do I know? I live there, and see it every day.\n\n>Brainwashing\n\nLol calm down. \n\n>Nothing you just extrapolated was actually there.\n\nI don't know man. Nothing you've really said is making me think you're any less racist.\n\n>This, [Diversity] however, is only beneficial if they all share relatively the same beliefs.\n\nSo what beliefs are you even talking about? Nationalism? Explain. Is it religious beliefs? Freedom of religion is a right in the US. If this is what you mean, it sounds pretty unamerican to try to change that.\n\n>...moral structures\n\nWhat kind of *different moral structures* could you be referring to? I have an idea, but you're gonna have to confirm it for me, because that's a whole other can of worms to open.\n\nAs far as I'm concerned, the rule of thumb for most cultures is \"don't be an asshole.\"\n\n>This [multiculturalism] is a cancer to a society seeking peace\n\nWhat I'm getting from this is that you think in order to achieve peace, everyone must be the same. (Essentially be like us or get out... Segregation anyone?) Which goes on the assumption that people as a whole are incapable of change. The world still has quite a bit to go in terms of learning how to coexist, you know. But why halt that progress by giving in?\n\nI think, if you want to use the cancer metaphor. I think a better way to use it would be this.\n\nThe cancer is intolerance. The white supremacists, the racists, the xenophobic. They all want their one white nationalistic little way of life to take over their entire area. \"Make America great (white) again!\" Multiculturalism is a part of the progressive society (chemotherapy) to combat the cancer. It's just scary for the MAWA scene because it threatens their little bubble of hate-filled existence.\n\nUnfortunately, Trump has made it okay in the eyes of a lot of americans to voice their racism, rather than self-reflect and change. If there's one thing I hope you take away from this coversation, it's that Donald Trump is a huge halt in any and all social progress the US might have made over the past decade.\n\n...Also you didn't answer my simple yes/no question.",
"AE like Æ? ",
"https://www.neogaf.com/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FojvQNCy.png&hash=07676eb0b2347726a061bfc0e76dfdcd",
"Yeah if I remember right Hitler had full control of the state run media so thus news papers would run stories and such backing up Hitler's claims. Hell I do remember Jews saying the first sighs things were bad was the news became untrustworthy.",
"After you read Primetime Propaganda by Ben Shapiro you should read The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt.\n\nAlso if your claim is based on the argument that history is tending to be more liberal over time I want you to think about the following two facts: \n \n1. Rates of Infectious Disease and perception of threats heavily correlate with rightwing beliefs. \n2. Disease and Violence have been decreasing. ",
"And boy was he right with that prediction.",
"What a horrible world you must be living in.",
"Nope. I’ve never said I hate his supporters and I don’t. Good luck to you.",
"Last summer I visited Dachau concentration camp and museum in Nuremberg. I was shocked by the similarity of treating press and his critics between Hitler and Trump. smh why we learn to refuse from our history?",
"Obtuse to a fault... The person who started with the insults was you. And I am not talking about him playing golf. I am talking about him nearly weekly playing at maro Lago which he owns where he pays himself. That is corruption.",
"Furthermore, he tried to get in between when North and South Korea started be friendly for the first time since the war. Not a warmongerer my ass, of course he wants war. Why do you think he wanted to be president, to work all day?",
"Comrade says the communist. You couldn't make this shit up!",
"Why would this be on the front page? I don't understand what makes this such a good picture ",
"The South Korean President literally said Trump deserves some credit for the new dialogue. And yeah if we did go to war with North Korea it would make a thousand times more sense than Iraq or Libya did ",
"https://webmshare.com/0KbQm",
"> The South Korean President literally said Trump deserves some credit for the new dialogue. \n\nSource?\n\n> And yeah if we did go to war with North Korea it would make a thousand times more sense than Iraq or Libya did \n\nThe war in Libya? You mean the air raids ordered by Obama? And the war in Iraq ordered by Bush?\n\nYou think a war with a nuclear power is going to be anything like the \"war\" with Libya?",
"Says the man defending CNN. Try actually watching something outside of your echo chamber.\n\n",
"The press don't need Trump to discredit them, they do that all by themselves. Why is his pointing out their utter failure a bad thing?",
"Indeed, at least the religious will quote faith or somesuch, atheists are just entirely intellectually bankrupt.",
"You can also be an agnostic theist. I don't know that anyones gods are real or not so I choose to believe they all are.",
"Anonymous, unverified sources are not news, this is called a rumor.",
"Just a footnote (to your thoroughly detailed posts), but one of the conditions put on Nazi Germany by the Allies was that the German people themselves had to admit collective and unconditional defeat. This was to prevent the spread of future propaganda like the post WW-I meme that the country was 'stabbed in the back' by 'Jewish Bolshevism' and that this caused their defeat instead of resource loss and tactical mistakes. The treaty of Versailles made a perfect breeding ground of anti-semitism through devaluation and hyperinflation due to repriations that Germany had to pay to other combattents. This is also why the Allies decided against penalizing Germans again at the end of WWII and chose to aid in the rebuilding of the country and the divying of it's territorial conquests back to sovereign nations (obviously besides all the land grabs, political betrayal, and skirmishes between the commie and capitalist nations; I'm trying to be succinct here though). \n\nSo no Versailles is not the reason the Nazis existed, as that stems from historic anti-semetism; national egotism; the need for a scapegoat; opportunistic politicians and fascists; eugenics; beliefs of racial purity; massive economic depression; and so many more damn reasons, but the treaty did more to set the stage for their rise to power than it did to hinder it.",
"Did you know Hitler drank water once? Guess who else drinks water. Donald Trump.",
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"I’m mostly in Powershell now so\n\n -ne \n\n",
"They're active again. I just put their account trough snoopsnoo.com and updated the data, either he moved from canada to europe, they sold their account or something else.. https://imgur.com/a/z8PHB https://snoopsnoo.com/u/timidforrestcreature \nPretty interesting to see this out in the open like this ",
"Trump is an idiot yes, and part of that makes his motivations obvious.\n\nhis strategy isnt sophisticated, Im glad I could help you see it",
"LoL I'm glad that you know everything about everyone. I guess you believe that people with a masters degree can't be assholes or criminals. Most of the time rich and successful people like me are assholes. You are more stupid than I realised. I'm gonna go drive my $65,000 land rover now while I think about your pathetic ass amounting to nothing in life. ",
"We're pointing out the quacks right here. ",
"Whatever you say hypocrite ",
"On the American election I'm hardly the one to know. \nBut it's naive to think they don't still try that type of ideas. I think it became more chaotic (not around a strict ideology) and also less successful then in soviet times. But KGB outlasted the USSR and the methods probably have some similarities.",
"DrumpF is Hitler incarnate ",
">Temporary ban on foreign travel from countries that harbor Islamic extremist organizations\n\nFTFY",
"\"Illegal\" is a racist term ",
"*ARE YOU KIDDING ME?*",
"BlumpF is basically Hitler incarnate ",
"Wow great Job at making a discussion! Suggesting that Trump is like Hitler is disgusting and ignores the Facts around what Hitler did! You aren't only degenerating Hitlers deeds and making them look miniscule but your also loseing the Argument the Moment you say someone is like Hitler. Did Trump kill 6 Million Jews? Did Trump start start anything near as horendus as the concetration camps!? You disgusting me OP! You are faul and disgusting for even suggesting that Trump is like Hitler. Shame on you and shame on your Family and friends! How dare you! Do you not even know there are People still alive who went though this war? Do you even know that there are People alive whos mothers and fathers barely survived the war? Do you understand what Argument you are presenting? You automatically lost allready OP. You have proven that even if Republicans are bad at least they never dared to call Obama the same as Hitler.",
"Sounds like perfectly normal banter to me. A bit too self-aggrandising and obviously on the \"bit creepy\" end but can I see someone like Donald Trump, who's entire career depends in part on extreme posturing, doing it? Yeah. Easily. \n\nLike I said, go to 4chan and find the first poster making some edgy sexual comment or greentext story. I can almost guarantee you they're just bullshitting. And no one cares, because that's kind of the point.\n\nFeel free to find it immature or pathetic, but that doesn't mean it's not complete crap.",
"yes. many, many similarities. U.S. citizens need to wake up sooner than the germans did.",
"people who think trump is so extremely different from hitler have a serious misunderstanding of who trump is.",
"when he was in the stages of transforming society and the country, hitler did not kill any jews. that was the endgame. trump is only starting, and the parallels are clearly visible. if you're not closing your eyes, that is.",
"yeah, contrary to the beautiful and glorious pictures we normally see on /r/pics, like:\n\n* look, my grandfather just died of cancer\n\n* look how my husband, who is a soldier!!!!1, came home. weeee!\n\n* a cat!\n\n* a dog!\n\n* look, i just lost 1000 pounds!\n\n* look, some gay guys just married!\n\ni don't see the problem. /r/pics never was about pictures, it's always about a message to deliver with the pictures. it's lame, but that's how people are.",
"of course trump is no hitler. but you must be quite blind to NOT see the parallels. the term \"lügenpresse\" is a step in the same direction. the permanent lying of the POTUS and the heavy stream of propaganda is also the same.\n\ntrump is still no hitler, the rep's are still no N.S.D.A.P, yet the government is on the direct way to fascism. that's obvious and needs to be stopped.",
"only for people who are unable to think critically, and are not fit to make the connection. they stop at the word \"hitler\". they cannot understand the subtle (not even the obvious) similarities between the way these two people manipulate, lie and destruct societal achievements only to sow mistrust and hatred against a clear enemy, wether it's \"the dems\", \"the press\", \"the FBI\" or everyone else who fits in this bigotted picture of a poor excuse of a former political party.",
"You are making a very critical error here. Hitler was made chancellor by the president. He then assumed control when the president died. ",
"Excellent points, well thought out and very well written. I hope you don't mind me using this to send to people. ",
"How can you not. This isn’t the land of the broken. If you want to be here, do so legally. You do not get to disregard policy for a sympathetic cause. ",
"Because the press refuses to stop being the ravenous lapdogs of the war party and military industrial complex.\n\nA hundred and twenty years, and not a single noticeable change.",
"lol, I think it officially lost it back when a grocery salesman taking over a video game company received the same treatment.",
"Yeah. Obama was literally hitler because he tried to gain political support. And gaining political support is definitely what we remember Hitler for nowadays.",
"So is reality",
">Evidence is EVERYWHERE at this point.\n\nAnd Trump is still president? Wow! ",
"Correction: The military enlisted *him.* For both events, even.\n\nFor the comparison to even *start* to be correct, Mattis himself would have had to approach him about running in 2008.",
"But Alex Jones legitimately cannot grow facial hair so not really sure who that other dude is.",
"Not when you print it on 17D so nobody else can see.\n\nThat's like apologising to your waiter for running over the mayor's kid after a DUI then not understanding why he's still pissed.",
"If it applies, there's no reason to deny!",
"Well, they both *drastically* lowered unemployment!",
"It didnt in either case lol\n\nTry to keep up Cletus",
"China laughs in your general direction.",
"TIL Hitler loved the environment so much he created an organisation to regulate its use.",
"**Free** press is doing better than ever thanks to the corporatist advertising companies getting the shit blown out of them.",
"I thought that one was Time?",
"Lol what? That's completely fucking ridiculous. Im done talking to you now. Holy shit.",
"You could \"go on and on\" but then you'd be just as much of a craven liar as Hearst and his homeboys Zucker and Murdoch, so see, at least **you** know when to stop.",
"lol, he'd probably call him a pussy over his dietary requirements actually, come to think of it.",
"Ah, that explains the rejection of Hitlery then.",
"Upvote...for funny.",
"Trump cut taxes for nearly everyone, and companies are moving back to the US, hiring like crazy, and have issued bonuses all due to the cut.",
"You literally constructed a straw man there, pathetic\n",
"Yeah it's funny because I actually don't watch CNN, or really any news on TV, I'm just saying it's not fake news. ",
"So there are hundreds of thousands of feminazis and that's not toggling to you?",
"r/iamverysmart\n\nAnd stop changing your arguement every few minutes. Pick one and stick with it.",
"[Here is a fresh one for you, hot off the presses](https://www.salon.com/2018/01/21/very-quietly-justice-department-charges-white-supremacist-with-domestic-terrorism_partner/)\n\nIt's some new attack all the time with these Trumpling terrorists. You think Trump will address the plague of Trump supporter domestic terrorists during the state of the union?",
"A tv star become politician with a popular twitter account has not been bamboozling anyone for a long time. However, the press, who seem to echo a common sentiment from coast to coast and continent to continent, have been in control of our minds for nearly a century.\n\nIn any case, the Sagan quote is apropos. ",
"Ironically, the story that \"Trump invented the term Fake News\" is itself fake news. The term was pushed by the media starting just before the election as an attack against conservative news outlets. But was quickly co-opted by the people it was being used against. (Something made easier by the fact that these people were often writing stories that valued reals before feels).\n\nhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/26/trump-falsely-claims-again-that-he-coined-the-term-fake-news/?utm_term=.63d57a9216bc",
"Haha knew this one was coming. Haven't changed it once, I keep bringing the same point of corruption up and like a snake you keep pretending not to understand or to hear. All the diehards for trump do this, the last bastion of a sheltered ego.",
"Like CNN can even be jestingly referred to as a credible source for news anymore. Heck, ALL the main news outlets are now only going to degrade in quality. ",
"> No, again you don’t understand the founding of the government.\n\nMm-hmm. Well, if *you* say so...\n\n> They were suppose to compete and fight against the other.\n\nThere's a difference between saying \"we disagree with the judge's ruling, so we'll be appealing it,\" and saying \"how broken and unfair our court system is\" or \"the powers of the president will not be questioned.\" The first statement is competing/fighting against your opponents within the system of checks and balances, the latter statements (those are direct quotes, by the way) are fighting against and trying to weaken the system of checks and balances itself. \n\nFor contrast, the Obama administration (and, I'm sure, many other administrations before him, but he's the most recent) suffered dozens of losses in Supreme Court cases, with unanimous 9-0 decisions against him, including from the judges that he himself appointed. Even within that framework, can you find a single quote from Obama or an administration spokesperson saying \"how broken and unfair our court system is\" or \"the powers of the president will not be questioned?\" If you can't, then I think that should serve as an indication of how far afield Trump has gone from the normal degree of competition that is how it's supposed to work. Trump is not just fighting against his political opponents within the system, he's fighting against the system itself. \n\n> I presume you’re not American and don’t know the historical context\n\nLol, you got me, I'm a Russian bot who defected to the other side. Perhaps this is a bit of projection?\n\n> however they feared an overtly strong central power, and designed them to fight amongst each other to prevent said issue.\n\nThis is exactly my point! Trump is giving every appearance of trying to weaken the system of check and balances the founders put in place, so he can become that strong central power they feared, and so that no one can fight amongst each other to stop his agenda. ",
"You are quite possibly one of the stupidest people I've ever encountered on Reddit. You literally did not understand a single thing I said.",
"You're focusing too much on \"Fake News\". Politicians use slogan language, that's nothing new. It's a lot harder to say \"They are pushing left wing narratives, publishing lies by omission, throwing out ad-hominems etc..\".\n\n\"Fake news\" isn't a great slogan but it most-fucking-certainly doesn't make him hitler.",
"Obama branded fox as liars (basically). The new black hitler in your book?",
"I’m not focusing on anything and I didn’t call him Hitler. I straight up said he’s called out plenty of factual news as fake because he doesn’t like it. While spewing a constant barrage of lies himself. I can repeat it again if need be. ",
"winner",
"“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. \"If you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are if you are listening to NPR.”\n\n- Obama\n\nSame tactic as Hitler?",
"Hey, he gave it a shot. Nothing wrong with trying to inject some false propaganda in an unrelated thread.",
"I agree he exaggerates the fake news claims. But at the same time there is plenty of bullshit of the type i described from the press.\n\nIt's a bit like punching someone then getting mad when they beat you senseless in return. The press started it.",
"So you’ve gone from telling me what he actually means to “lying press” in 2 comments. We’re done here, Trumper. ",
"> You seriously don’t see an issue with the President of the US claiming that any news that is not in his favor is fake?\n\n“One of the biggest challenges we have to our democracy is the degree to which we don’t share a common baseline of facts,” Obama said. \"If you watch Fox News, you are living on a different planet than you are if you are listening to NPR.”\n\n- Obama\n",
"Absolutely. Also a somewhat defensible position",
"> and nothing of value was lost.\n\nIronic in a post about censoring media",
"How dare you imply those news outlets were fake news!",
"I’m not talking about what the war would look like I’m talking about if the war would make sense. North Korea is a much bigger threat to regional and global stability than either of those countries ever were \n\n[source](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/10/south-koreas-moon-says-trump-deserves-big-credit-for-north-korea-talks.html)",
"> Immigration is currently net zero\n\nUS has the highest net immigration in the world. That really was quite some fake news there bro.",
"Yeah but the question is why you keep bitching about Libya when Trump already has sent in ground troops in other conflicts like Yemen.",
"Defeated militarily in Iraq and Syria. Still has territory in countries around the world. \n\n>The US and 67 other nations from around the world formed a coalition to train, equip, and provide air support for the regional forces that confronted ISIS, mostly in Iraq. The US also supported Syrian forces fighting to defeat ISIS. Russia stepped in in late 2015 to provide air support for the Syrian government and allied Iranian militias, mainly backing the regime of President Bashar al-Assad against rebels threatening his rule, but also targeting some ISIS territory.\n\nYou said Donald basically destroyed ISIS....\n\n[This](http://www.newsweek.com/trump-isis-raqqa-isis-capital-687391) article gives a lot more detail about what Donald has actually done and I'll give him credit for those changes. Although giving full control to the military leaders without any checks, well we'll have to see how that turns out. Also:\n\n>But some commentators have claimed that Trump is simply reaping the benefits of the hard graft put in by the former administration. The battle for Mosul, for example, commenced in October 2016 and lasted for nine months: Iraqi forces had liberated the whole of eastern Mosul by January 24—four days into Trump’s presidency—with the remaining six months consisting of a gruelling slog for the Old City.\n\n>And the most glaring omission from Trump’s comments on Tuesday was acknowledgement of the role of local forces in the fight against ISIS. In Raqqa, the fighting has been led by the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), a mixture of Arab and Kurdish fighters. The SDF has been backed by U.S. airpower and occasionally accompanied by U.S. advisers, but has suffered the consequences of leading the fight against ISIS at the heart of its caliphate, with hundreds of casualties.\n\n>President Trump’s claim that he “changed the rules of engagement” appears to have some support among military figures, who have expressed appreciation of greater leeway and authority in directing anti-ISIS operations. But Trump failed to recognize that he is building upon foundations established long before he came to office and, perhaps most pertinently, failed to recognize the overwhelming contribution made by local forces in ousting ISIS from its former capital.",
"Because those decisions have yet to result in a giant slave trade or a power void filled by the most dangerous terrorist organization since and probably before the height of Al Qaeda. That’s why. ",
"It took years to deal with richard nixon. Things are moving as fast as possible ",
"And Yemen is not going to result in a giant slave trade or terrorist state?",
"Is that a joke?",
"But there's no evidence... Except for wrongdoing by the outgoing administration and Clinton campaign. ",
"When that \"media\" mostly consists out of lies, misleading information, fear and hate mongering...\n\nAgain, nothing of value is lost. Certain countries have a clause that factified false information, lies and insults do not fall under freedom of speech. E.g. holocaust denial.",
"yeah just making fun of the outlets who made a big deal over the water drinking 'fiasco'",
"> When that \"media\" mostly consists out of lies, misleading information, fear and hate mongering...\n\nAnd that is Trump's view of many large media outlets such as CNN. Plenty of evidence to back up his claims really.",
"I wasn’t saying gathering political support means someone is like Hitler. You’d have to try pretty hard to misunderstand me that badly. \n\nMy point was that at the beginning of his political career Hitler had also never committed genocide. But he would go on too. I’m not comparing Trump to Hitler in 1945. I’m comparing him and the movement behind him to Hitler and Nazism as they rise to power. And the time to oppose genocide and fascism isn’t *after* they kill people and restrict rights. It’s the kind of thing you nip in the bud. ",
"Ah, yes. Because he’s done something some Jewish people appreciated his fascistic language and support from Nazis is expunged. Everyone knows that. ",
"Here’s the problem, Trump isn’t saying “the powers of the president are undeniable and ultimate” and don’t throw some misconstrued tweet at me- it’s very clear Trump isn’t trying to pull rank on some district judge. I just can’t follow that interpretation.\n\n\nAgain, we both know Trump’s verbiage can be lackluster and blatant, so I’m of the belief that you need to treat it as so. I’ve never been one that defends his random statements as ‘4D chess’. It’s not. The amount of times he says something that hurts him and then happens to do something that tricks his criticizers to make a mistake and look bad is like 10:1.\n\n\nI’ll agree that Trump can be a blowhard, however he is no threat to the balance of constitutional power. Trump hasn’t written illegal executive orders which skip congress with things like DACA, or wire tapped journalists. \n\n\nI honestly quite like the goal of DACA, however we have congress for a reason. Can’t skip steps 1&2 and go right to 3; that’s an actual threat to the checks and balances, Caesar and Pompey did the same thing.",
"I don’t entirely trust any of them, but I’ve long rejected most of the MSM as liars and liberal propaganda long ago *because of what they said*. The scandal when Dan Rather presented forged docs in a report about GWB’s National Guard service in 2004 was a real eye-opener for me. The MSM’s hatred of conservatives permits journalistic ethics to be ignored, and too many Americans blindly follow because “it was on the news so it must be true”.\n\nIt’s not that I blindly believe Trump because he denounced MSM, but I’m glad that someone who is too big to be ignored is calling them out. By the way, I don’t recall any voices on the left complaining while Obama was denouncing Fox News in a similar way. \n\nI would love to have someone provide a good hour-a-day “just the proven facts” newscast. I’m still looking. ",
"How did you manage to spell it Ulrta twice in a row?",
">You're correct, you won't stop me from recognizing that repeated, intentional use of extreme hyperbole\n\nThat does not make a lot of sense... First of all, what do you mean repeated? I don't think this argument is used that often, and even if it was that does not make it somehow invalid. \n\nSecond of all, what the hell do you mean by \"intentional use of...\"? What else can it be other than intentional?? I don't think it is possible to accidentally make use of hyperbole. That is not how it works...\n\nAlso, it is not a big deal, but I believe the phrase \"extreme hyperbole\" is kind of redundant because hyperbole already denotes a claim that is extreme or exaggerated in some way. \n\nThe definition of the word is: *\"exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.\"*\n\n\n\n>poor way to make a point and have people take you seriously.\n\nWell, the definition of hyperbole does say it is not meant to be taken literally. Though I guess that is not the same as seriously. That is of course if you ignore the 43.7K upvotes that this post got, meaning there are people that do take this seriously...",
"It’s an ongoing civil war, Trump didn’t just decide to go in and overthrow the regime then leave the locals to figure it out ",
"Except when it clearly is. Did you pick up on the koigate incident at all? The statement that it was illegal to read wikileaks?\n\nYou were very quick to label me as brainwashed because I was critical of CNN, why was that? ",
"Your point was that he hadn't started any conflicts during the first year of his presidency and used Iraq and Libya as examples which fails by all means. I really don't understand what you are trying to communicate other than an incorrect talking point from Potus.",
"> Plenty of evidence to back up his claims really.\n\nYeah. Sure. Them emails right?",
"All these articles showcase a VIDEO. Are you seriously contesting video evidence of what happened? “Everything that doesn’t fit my narrative is fake news.” Now that’s something familiar. ",
"Not sure how that fits in for either left or right. I'm talking about the instances where the media was flat out lying. Let alone cases where they lie by omission and other things.",
"Fake news. I've done research of my own and can't find anything. It's all fake and you know it",
"I agree that it would be nice to have something non-partisan and trustworthy, something that I had confidence was free of hard bias and based on facts alone.\n\nAs for Obama's comments, he did call Fox's stance destructive, said they brought down his poll numbers, said that they portrayed him as something he was not, etc. About the worst quote that I can find is that he accused them of 'churning out a lot of misinformation.' Personally I feel that there is a world of difference between that and suggesting that all of media is lying about everything 100% of the time and that only the President can be trusted. I think Trump's way of dealing with it is *far* more reminiscent of authoritarianism, but maybe you're still right - maybe Obama should have caught more criticism for directly commenting on an opposition media source.\n\nI wouldn't be happy with Trump's behavior from a liberal president, and I would ask you not to accept it from a conservative one. What goes around comes around, and I don't want a standard where, in ten years, 'my' guy is shutting down 'your' media's access with the same arguments. That's just unamerican, regardless of who is doing it.\n\nCheers. Let's hold our representatives *and* our media to a higher standard, and maybe we'll have a better-informed populace.\n\nTake care.",
"Oh I understand it fine. Do you understand what I said? Or even what you said? Lol, because at the moment, I'm starting to question your reading comprehension (and overall stability if you're just resorting to insults now).\n\nAnd you still didn't answer my question. Why? I can only assume it's because you don't want to admit you're a racist. If you're not, then you should have no problem just saying so.\n\nEdit: Also I've noticed you've only been answering the parts of my comments that are convenient for you to answer, while completely ignoring the tough questions. I've literally been asking for clarifications, and for you to expand on what you're talking about and all you say is \"you're stupid.\" You're probably older than I am, but tbh you're pretty fucking childish. All this tells me is you have no actual arguments.",
"No, that’s absolutely not what I said. I said he hasn’t arbitrarily toppled any regimes which is true. I don’t think I’m having issues communicating my point so much as you are understanding it ",
"Of course. That's why only 1 year in and trump already hs people going to jail.",
"Ok ",
"You’re delusional. This is the actual video, if you lack the ability to scroll through any of these articles to actually find it. I’m not gonna respond to you anymore, since you quite clearly show how hypocritical you are. \n\nhttps://youtu.be/jdP8TiKY8dE",
"> Trump isn’t saying “the powers of the president are undeniable and ultimate”\n\nThe [exact quote](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljz8y2qX1f4) (from Stephen Miller, senior adviser to Trump) was, \"the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.\" Not *quite* the same as \"undeniable and ultimate,\" but definitely in the same ballpark.\n\n> don’t throw some misconstrued tweet at me- it’s very clear Trump isn’t trying to pull rank on some district judge. I just can’t follow that interpretation.\n\nI agree that you can't follow it, because that's not what I meant at all. My interpretation is not that Trump is trying to \"pull rank,\" to overrule this individual decision. My interpretation is that he's trying to get people to distrust the judicial system *in general* (and then maybe call for \"judicial reform\" or some other Orwellian term for weakening the power of the courts), so that he could eventually get to the point where he doesn't even have to pull rank on some district judge to begin with.\n\n> Again, we both know Trump’s verbiage can be lackluster and blatant, so I’m of the belief that you need to treat it as so.\n\nHence the reason I brought in the Stephen Miller quote; there's every indication that Miller is highly influential in the White House, so it's reasonable to suppose that his viewpoint is shared by Trump. I'm resisting the urge to include claims that are more hearsay, but if you wanted to look at \"anonymous White House sources say\" kind of stuff, then boy, I've got some juicy ones for you there. But of course, I do think it's completely fair to not count those as real evidence, so I'm sticking to the direct quotes from Trump and his spokespeople. Oh, here's another one: \"I have absolute right to do what I want to do with the Justice Department.\" \n\nOkay, in fairness, maybe what he actually meant was, \"I absolutely do have the right...\" but I still get pretty nervous when I hear someone in a position of such high power talking about having the \"absolute right\" to do whatever he wants. And just to toss in another voice from within his administration, there was also Jeff Sessions' infamous quote, \"I really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the Pacific can issue an order that stops the President of the United States from what appears to be clearly his statutory and constitutional power.\" To me, this is tantamount to saying \"I am amazed that the judicial branch exists and can make judgments I personally disagree with.\" The fact that it *appears* to be within the President's statutory and constitutional power is exactly what the judge is there to rule on; that's precisely his job, so for Sessions to say he's amazed by that suggests to me that he either doesn't understand or doesn't particularly like the judge doing his job. \n\nAnd I should emphasize, there are also a lot of data-points that have brought me to this conclusion about Trump that can't be summed up in tidy little sound-bite quotes. \n\n> The amount of times he says something that hurts him and then happens to do something that tricks his criticizers to make a mistake and look bad is like 10:1.\n\nWe agree he says dumb things, but that doesn't mean he says dumb things *that aren't true*. Like, to use an extreme example (on a different issue), if he finally just said, \"black people are all criminals,\" then that certainly would be lackluster and blatant verbiage, but that doesn't mean we should say, \"well, he just says dumb things sometimes, so this isn't really evidence that he's racist.\" Of course it would be! You seem to be suggesting that because he says dumb things sometimes, we shouldn't count those things as evidence of what his actual viewpoint is. I'm saying that the \"times he says something that hurts him,\" that a more savvy politician would never have blurted out in the first place, should be treated as a *more* accurate window into what he's really thinking than the prepared statements and practiced speeches. \n\n> I’ll agree that Trump can be a blowhard, however he is no threat to the balance of constitutional power.\n\nFor the record, my position is not that he *is* a threat to the balance of constitutional power. My position is that he's *trying* to be. I don't presently believe he'll succeed, but part of the reason that I believe he won't is because people are recognizing what he's trying to do and resisting it.\n\n> Trump hasn’t written illegal executive orders which skip congress with things like DACA, or wire tapped journalists.\n\nEverybody thinks the other party's president is the one whose executive orders are illegal. That's for the courts to decide, and they have indeed decided against some of Trump's executive orders, so I'm not sure what basis you have for saying he hasn't written any illegal ones.\n\n> I honestly quite like the goal of DACA, however we have congress for a reason. Can’t skip steps 1&2 and go right to 3;\n\nI frankly am not familiar enough with DACA to debate the finer points of whether it's constitutional or not, but just browsing the Wikipedia page, I found this: \"In United States v. Texas, for instance, the Obama administration argued that the policy was a lawful exercise of the enforcement discretion that Congress delegated to the executive branch in the Immigration and Nationality Act, which charges the executive with the administration and enforcement of the country’s immigration laws.\" There is a justification for it; you can hold the opinion that the justification is not adequate, but I don't think it's reasonable to act like Obama just said, \"screw the checks and balances of the legislative branch, I'm just gonna do something that's not in my authority because I feel like it, and hope nobody notices.\" On the flip-side, I personally believe that the spirit and intent of Trump's travel ban was to restrict incoming travel of Muslims and other out-groups that his white nationalist base would consider undesirable, but I still acknowledge that his staff put in the effort to make the wording of the executive order appear to fit within the letter of the law. And that's no less true of DACA. ",
"Project Veritas is not a news source. The fact you think this is anything even resembling evidence of what you claim is laughable",
"Unfortunately those were the options presented.",
"*Let's hold our representatives *and* our media to a higher standard, and maybe we'll have a better-informed populace.*\n\nIndeed. This is really the only way forward. You take care as well. \n",
"Yes yes I know. To an idiot the notion of arguing with one escapes them. You literally didn't understand anything I said. I broke down the difference between diversity and multiculturalism and you saw racism. That is illogical and means you didn't grasp what I was saying. Beliefs, wants, needs. Societies need to be on the same page. Too many cultures has never worked. Diversity, yes. But there needs to be a unified belief system. Some belief systems are not compatible with others. Once again, you see racism because you are a moron and that's the only response you are programmed to have. Name me one empire or civilization that has thrived with multiculturalism. It has never happened. Historians, sociologists, every educated person knows it is cancer to peaceful societies. Are you trying to tell me there isn't a major problem with immigrants raping women in Sweden? Are you going to say right now that those women need to be raped for the sake of something that has never been healthy for a society in the history of mankind? Or is dat raciss too? ",
"No you’re missing my point entirely. Obama’s DACA isn’t illegal due to some fine point, as constitutionally the President wasn’t suppose to be able to change our immigration policy on his terms alone. I think the travel ban was implemented illegally as well. I hate executive orders, a majority of the time they’re constitutionally invalid, the president was NEVER delegated that kind of power. You really think a group of rebels who just fought a king would want to recreate that line of thinking? Of course not. They designed it after the Roman Republic, not the British Empire. \n\n\nThat’s the entirety of my point. Stop calling Trump an imbalance of power until you call every last president that’s done the same Bs a threat to the balance. It’s hypocritical and inconsistent.\n\n",
"I honestly wasn't talking about Trump. There's a lot more forces at play in America that I was more referring to",
"I can be snarky but that doesn’t mean I hate anyone. We’re both humans and I honestly wish you the best. ",
"The fact that you completely ignore video evidence of CNN producers admitting it’s just for rating and mostly bullshit and claim it’s fake news is as laughable as yourself. ",
"So if a CNN producer says the Holocaust didn't happen you're going to believe them? How did non-important CNN employee become an authority on Russian meddling again?\n\nBy the way Project Veritas has absolutely no credibility and neither do you for posting it",
"Yes, the people trying to set him up. I know you know this. \n\nHow often does the FBI destroy evidence? Especially by deleting text messages, deleting the backups, overwriting the hard drives, and then calling it an accident? ",
"> No you’re missing my point entirely. Obama’s DACA isn’t illegal due to some fine point, as constitutionally the President wasn’t suppose to be able to change our immigration policy on his terms alone.\n\nI literally already addressed the exact point that you said I missed.\n\n> Stop calling Trump an imbalance of power until you call every last president that’s done the same Bs a threat to the balance. It’s hypocritical and inconsistent.\n\nI addressed this point as well, when I pointed out some BS Trump was doing (saying the courts were unfair and broken), and asked you to provide examples of Obama doing the same thing (which he hasn't as far as I've ever seen, despite getting many rulings against him). I am saying that Trump is doing a lot of BS that other presidents have not done (like calling the news media, \"[the enemy of the American people](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_people)\"). I'm **not** saying that Trump's use of executive orders is an assault on our checks and balances, so it's not hypocritical and inconsistent that I'm also not saying that any other president's use of executive orders is an assault on our checks and balances. Don't you dare call me hypocritical and inconsistent if you're not even gonna bother taking the time to understand my actual point. ",
"Wow really? Trumps own staff who have been with him all through the campaign are willing to plead guilty to fake charges and go to jail.... just to set up the man they did their best to get elected. \n\nThat makes sense.\n\nYou and your kind will still be spewing bullshit while trump is hanging from a tree on the white house lawn for his crimes. Reality has no meaning to you. ",
"Thank you hypocrite ",
">To an idiot the notion of arguing with one escapes them.\n\nLol is this how vets are supposed to act? Like little children?\n\n>I broke down the difference between diversity and multiculturalism and you saw racism.\n\nI only saw racism at the part where you said \"multiculturalism is a cancer\". Which still is a racist value to have. You seriously think multiple cultures can't coexist ever?\n\n>unifified belief system.\n\nI asked you what you meant by this. You didn't answer. What kind of belief system is the ideal in America?\n\n>You see racism because you're a moron and that's the only response you're programmed to have. \n\nI actually kinda feel bad for you if you actually think that. It must be nice to be so unaware that other people are human beings. Although I don't blame you, dehumanization is the best way to be able to justify a lot of horrible things. Except I'm sure you know that, being a vet and all.\n\n>Name me one empire or civilization that has thrived with multiculturalism.\n\nI've answered this question already. Another reason why I'm questioning your reading comprehension.\n\nFuck, even the US is multicultural to some degree.\n\n>Are you trying to tell me there isn't a major problem with immigrants raping women in Sweden? Are you going to say right now that those women need to be raped for the sake of something that has never been healthy for a society in the history of mankind? Or is dat raciss too? \n\nLol what the fuck is wrong with you? You've got issues, dude.\n\nYou're a racist. We both know you are. Honestly, we'd have a more productive discussion if you weren't such a coward about it.",
"Lol I just know you're not. You're some troll pretending to be rich. Nobody thinks you're cool. You just sound like an idiot.",
"Still waiting for a response from you. I’m genuinely curious how you read that article and then claimed nazi groups rose 17% since trump was elected. ",
"I don't see him moving Muslims into ghettos, taking away their businesses, writing hateful books about them.",
"Nope, because any race can be an illegal alien. Just like any race can be a legal alien. ",
"Because it's a picture?",
"I see him trying to normalize minorities being offered fewer rights, I see him saying hateful things even if he’s not putting it in books, I see him eroding faith in critical media, I see him stoking and catering to xenophobia, I see him winking at the alt right and neo Nazis. ",
"Lol whatever you want to say dude. You are showing the world how unsuccessful and pathetic you really are. I still have my masters and a 6 figure paying career. You probably still live with your parents or roommates lol. So pathetic. ",
"Do you really think women are opposed? I don't really see that. Maybe I just don't experience what you have, but I assume that the rest of the women in the US are pretty similar to the ones I interact with. What do you see as the one biggest way that they are oppressed? ",
"This. I mean or worked in Virginia, Alabama, and Wisconsin! ",
"That is *not* how a strawman works. A strawman requires someone to purposefully misconstrue something to create an argument that was never proposed for the sake of it being an easy takedown.\n\n\nI was saying that I was sick of people trying to make Donald Trump look like Hitler, which happens **ALL THE TIME IN THE MEDIA:** http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-control-us-justice-system-hillary-clinton-fair-trial-reminds-me-of-adolf-hitler-nazi-a8059031.html\n\n\nBecause of this, *I did not* misrepresent anything. There is a noticeable and obvious trend in today's media to either make Donald Trump out to be Hitler (the regressive-left), or to make Donald Trump out to be Jesus (the far-right and some factions of the alternative right). If you are saying that my \"strawman\" is that Donald Trump is not (and never can be) *literally* Hitler, than that is an argument based on semantics to give the illusion of a strawman fallacy. That in and of itself could be considered a strawman, Matt, because you failed to clarify your semantics before throwing out the accusation.",
"Don't use it to look like an intellectual; that's cringy.\n\nWhat I would recommend is to look up a complete list of logical fallacies commonly used in debates/moral arguments, as it will really bolster any of your beliefs if you can avoid them and point them out when used.",
"CNN is not free press, retard.",
"You made it sound like that was an all but likelihood in your comment. So far, and I'm not being a Trump supporter here, that investigation seems more like witch-hunt that's not yielded anything even remotely worthy of impeachment.",
"Well, at least that's how I interpreted the picket sign, which was not very divulgent in itself, so maybe the sign maker was trying to convey something else. \n\nA primary effect of making a sign like that, is to liken a person who distrusts the political views of the biggest news media corpororations with the tyrant Hitler, because he also did it. Thus it draws the attention away from the the most important question to ask: \"what is true?\", even though it might contradict the big news corporations' views. ",
"By “non-important” do you mean 2 important producers? Stop embarassing yourself. It’s right in front of your eyes yet you’re in denial. I pity you. ",
"It was phrased hypothetically for a reason. \n\nBut, I don’t agree that the investigation is finding nothing of note.",
"> especially in a place of so called learning\n\nThere, \"learning\" has lost its meaning. It's a sad state of affairs. Communism nor fascism should get any footing in modern society. They have both extensively proven their failings.",
"We can agree on that.",
"Which awful things are those? Border control? Trying to stop outsourcing? God forbid.",
"Owned by the same democrats. ",
"The local forces were fighting ISIS while Obama was president too. As were all of those countries that were helping. Their role isn't unappreciated, but the variable that changed is Trump. 2 years ago, I remember numerous pundits saying that Raqqa was lost for good, that eradicating ISIS was many years away. Trump really did change the game by just giving the generals free reign to do what they do best. ",
"You’re welcome.",
"Now run along and live in the most hypocritical fashion. Typical lefty. ",
"That's \"literally\" not what a strawman is. Only conservatives fight to keep evolution out of schools (as well as anthropogenic climate change). That's a fact. ",
"The sad part is that dumb americans will never understand this and never realize trump is taking them for a ride. ",
"I said they had been emboldened. It actually started before election night, and took off during the campaign.\n\nIt literally says in the article that \"hate groups increased by 17%\". They chose to split skins, nazis, white supremacists, etc into a bunch of separate categories of hate group but at the end of the day they are all the same shit.",
">I can compare anyone to Hitler, but does that make them Hitler? No.\n\nCare to explain what the fuck you were trying to say with this then? This is the strawman. Nobody is saying he is Hitler. Saying he dies things that Hitler also did is not saying he is Hitler. ",
"1. Trump's tax cuts for corporations/wealthy were *PERMANENT.*\n\n2. Trump's tax cuts for the poor/middle class were *TEMPORARY.*\n\nWhy are you and I not entitled to our own money if rich people are? Trickle-down economics has been debunked for the last 50 years since the rich [hoard their wealth](https://www.npr.org/2017/05/31/530843665/top-20-percent-of-americans-hoard-the-american-dream) instead of \"create jobs.\"\n\nWho pays for the $1.4 BILLION these tax cuts add to the deficit? The poor, since the wealthiest's tax cuts don't expire.\n\n[**Here's how Trump's tax cuts are redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich.**](https://www.npr.org/2017/11/14/562884070/charts-heres-how-gop-s-tax-breaks-would-shift-money-to-rich-poor-americans)",
"Did Donald Trump call for his political opponents to be jailed or did he not?\n\n",
"North Korea? Hello? How many Americans are going to die when he starts a nuclear war?\n\nHope you don't think you're a patriot or a christian, because you're a traitor to our country. Educate yourself you fool before it's too late. ",
"Yeah, absolutely, feel free. I just googled hilter quotes, then googled \"hitler speech jews\" if I remember right. \n\nPersonally I think someone has done a very skilled job of sabotaging the left by whipping them into absolute insanity. But people who have jumped onboard this train really are a lot closer to repeating nazi ideology (with some of the names changed) than anyone else.",
"I know, but didn't BuzzFeed try to say it was a wiki leaks. I might of remembered it wrong. But the point is it fake news and big media like cnn ran off BuzzFeeds article on it right away.",
"So you're arguing the semantics of me saying \"but does that make them Hitler\" as being literally Hitler when at least one hundred people, out of common sense, understood that I was likely meaning \"just like Hitler\", and that I was using short-form slang. So *you* are creating the strawman by misrepresenting what I said about a general trend, not me.",
"Does this make him just like Hitler?\n\n\nDoes this make him as extreme as Hitler?\n\n\nDoes this make him as eager to deny rights as Hitler?\n\n\nDoes this make him as racist as Hitler?\n\n\nDoes this make him as evil as a man who initiated one of the most disgusting and vile acts a human is even capable of thinking of?\n\n\nNo. It doesn't.\n\n\nYou underestimate just how evil Hitler was.\n\n\nEDIT: Yes, he did call for Hillary to be jailed, and he had a justifiable reason for it too.",
"Do you realize you're the 15th moron to say that? If you didn't get the point of it get the fuck off the planet. The point of r/pics is nice pictures not \"pictures\" of political statements.",
"There will not be a nuclear war. Your fear mongering has no power over me. ",
"Wow. No. Listen, I'm anything *but* a Trump supporter. I flat out disagree with any travel bans because I think that's completerly ignoring the entire point of what thisw country was supposed to me. That said, none of his tweets that people claim racist are anywhere near comparable to Mein Kamph. He's never called Muslims or Hispanics to be the sole problem holding the US back let alone problems at all. Obviously racist people eat up his attempts to deter countries that harbor many terrorists and illegal immigration from Mexico. He may very well be racist, but we can't read his mind and as far as I've seen he hasn't said, written, or acted in a way to imply anything near what Hitler was telling Germans before he started killing, which also it seems you dont know how early he started killing them the same exact year he came to power. If Trump was trying to pull anything like Hitler, people would already be getting killed.",
"We are many. We shall not be stopped. Resistance is futile.",
"No. But the point is...\n\nWho the everloving fuck was saying those things? This is what makes it a strawman. Neither the article you linked or the press at large are saying he's 'just like' Hitler, or as extreme as Hitler, as eager to deny rights as Hitler, as racist or as evil as Hitler'. The article you linked points to several perfectly valid observations about how they tried to sieze power and stifle political opponents. You have a populist using racially charged rhetoric, attempting to discredit the free press to avoid criticism and cover up corruption, as well as allowing them to push increasingly extreme and bizarre ideas as the public become desensitized and permissive.\n\nStop being such a disingenuous prick and actually argue against the real talking points, not those repeated largely in the donald and other shitey circlejerks. ",
"Holy shit dude, learn to process information for fuck's sake.\n\nYou are claiming people are saying he is 'just like' Hitler, or 'literally' Hitler. You again doubled down in your other reply, asking a bunch of questions to which no is the answer, as if those are actual things people say. \n\nYou posted an article in which someone drew *some* comparisons to *some* aspects of Hitlers rise to power as evidence for peopke saying he is as evil as racist, as extreme as Hitler. That's just dumb.\n\n",
"Wow. Okay. Just. Oh dear. \n\nI don’t think the comparison is exact, I don’t think Trump is as bad as Hitler, and I don’t think Trump really has any plans. But the movement surrounding him is fascistic, sometimes proudly and vocally so, and the Trump administration has already been bad for minorities. His supporters have a logic free devotion to him that should scare you. \n\nI think you’re wrong to say he’s but casting minorities, immigrants in particular, as what’s wrong with the country. He said Mexican immigrants are rapists in his first speech. His rhetoric about Muslims pouring into this country is reminiscent of Nazi propaganda about purity. \n\nTrumpism has the makings of fascism. I doubt they’re going to come to fruition but I think it’s foolish to deny that they’re there. \n\nAlso it’s spelled Mein Kampf. ",
"By this comparison, every political system/ideology has the makings of fascism except for straight up anarchism. Every politician has free devotion from a number of supporters. That's *literally every single one*. I don't see any minorities rights being taken away. I do see some actual racists trying to use mental gymnastics to try to legitimize their beliefs with Trump. But he isnt one of them so it's not fair at all or condemn him on that when it isn't him even doing it. ",
"Since you change headlines you post: who is spreading lies and untruths. ",
"If you don’t think Trump’s a racist, it’s my turn to tell you to check your history. His treatment of the Central Park five and lawsuit over discriminatory housing practices give you some clues. Read about his father too, maybe. \n\nYes, every politician has support from a number of followers. But Trump cheats on his wife with a pornstar and doesn’t lose conservative Christians. There’s a level of forgiveness as hand waving you don’t see commonly. \n\nHis attempt to take away trans people’s right to serve in the military, that’s not him going after minority rights? \n\nIs it mental gymnastics to say someone who calls Nazis very fine people is a racist?",
"Okay when did he call Nazis very fine people?",
"It wasn't phrased hypothetically (or, if you meant it to be, it wasn't very clear that it was). \n\nAnd I didn't say nothing of note. I said nothing anything remotely worthy of impeachment.",
"The term fake news was actually first popularized by the mainstream media.",
"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/537012/",
"Woah, it's almost as if that not everyone that didn't want that statue torn down was a Nazi. I could care less what happens to that statue, and while there we're *so many* despicable people there, many of them had their reasons for it not to be torn down that weren't founded on a racist ideology.",
"I don’t think that’s true. Everyone there was either racist or comfortable with racism. \n\nThe people marching on the same side as people wearing swastikas are not good people, and support for that statue is racist. ",
"Send me the pics of hundreds of thousands of women walking around with vagina hats.",
"Okay well both of our point have been argued since the event happened and I doubt either of us will actually be the ones to settle it. Wanna go grab a slice of pizza?",
"The land of the broken? Sympathy isn't so bad, ya know.",
"Dude, you're the same guy trolling the other thread. You're just a troll. You're lying. And it's painfully obvious and honestly pathetic. Know when to quit.",
"Troll alert^",
"Reported. You've been all over these recent threads trolling. ",
"And you have a masters in chemistry and are super rich and successful right? That's what you were saying in the other thread. Or are you just a troll? ",
"So because 50% of all population are male you assume that 50% of all people going to the female toilet are man in disguise?",
"Google women's march. Anyone with a pink hat. There you go you found it yourself..",
">Me: Send me the pics of hundreds of thousands of women walking around **with vagina hats.**\n\n>You: Anyone with a pink hat. There you go\n\nDid you actually just try to claim that the colour pink is a vagina?\n\nWhat.",
"Oh no you reported me... ",
"Though the definition of hyperbole includes \"exaggerated\", there are varying degrees of exaggeration. And using Hitler as a reference to another non-genocidal politician acting in a non-dictatorship role in a 3-branch, bipartisan government of a Western society more than fits the bill for an extreme variation of exaggerated.\n\nSecondly, 40 some odd thousand people can upvote a post on Reddit and that still doesn't mean a significant amount of people in the real world actually take them seriously. No \"ignoring\" is needed, as you put it.\n\nI do suppose you may not be able to use hyperbole unintentionally. I may be mistaken there. Though if you're only content with simply nitpicking words (of which there's plenty of 'sense' behind, save perhaps a single word) instead of actually addressing the points here - or if you're going to be intentionally obtuse (and fool no one at doing so, btw) and simply try and claim that someone being as nuanced as yourself couldn't actually figure out the points being made here - then I'll assume you're not actually here to have a conversation in good faith, and we can both leave it at that.\n\nBut to give the benefit of the doubt I will assume otherwise for the moment and repeat: using exaggerated claims of an extreme nature, is not an intelligent way to communicate a political statement about a certain political candidate who is directly tied to complex fiscal, political, and socioeconomic procedures.\n\nIt is especially unintelligent when many of the people using said claims are also upset about the lack of professionalism and serious nature from said candidate that is often expected in such a serious role. \n\nThere are many, far better tools readily available to deliver such a message.",
"I'm going to reply in the second thread you started.",
"H E I L T R U M P",
"You can't just say half an expression and act like that makes sense. That just makes you look like even more of a fucking moron lol",
"Trump compared to Hitler \"escalating steps of oppression\" similar to Hitler before the Holocaust: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/anne-frank-centre-donald-trump-america-president-hitler-nazi-germany-alarming-parallels-warning-a7884731.html\n\n\nTrump is 'perfectly accurate' to 1930s Hitler: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/readersrespond/bs-ed-rr-trump-hitler-20170907-story.html\n\n\nTabloid level article claiming Trump may have kept the writings of Hitler at bedside in the 90s: https://forward.com/schmooze/318664/trump-and-hitler/\n\n\nVenezuela's president calling Trump 'the new Hitler': http://uk.businessinsider.com/venezuelas-president-called-donald-trump-the-new-hitler-2017-9\n\n\nAside from a few off-handed comments on Twitter or Tumblr, you're right that nobody is flat out saying \"Trump is literally Hitler guys omg\", but the narrative is so obvious here that it may as well be a baseball bat smacking you upside the head. How many things can you compare Trump to in your collective narrative before you just stop beating around the bush and go \"he's the next Hitler.\" They're trying to be extremely sneaky about it, by implying and leaving pieces for people to put together, without ever having to flat out say it and receive backlash.\n\n\nAnd I'm not going to continue discussing this with you if you keep making those unnecessary comments like \"Holy shit dude, learn to process information for fuck's sake.\" I'll discuss with you if you'd like until we agree to disagree or someone concedes, but I don't have time for injected side-comments for no reason.",
"Do you still watch the same news networks that said he would never be elected? Fool me once. Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me. ",
"[Another Day, another Trump supporter terrorist](http://thehill.com/media/370207-man-arrested-after-threatening-to-kill-cnn-employees)\n\nYou think he will bring this up at the state of the union? It has been a worse problem during his presidency than Islamic terrorism. I bet he at least mentions one of those.",
"What skewed logic is this? If there are two sides, its a safe assumption that both sides get equally skewed on average. ",
"But again, you're ignoring the nuance and context. The second link for example\n\n>not the Hitler of World War II, but the Hitler of the first half of the 1930s who told the poor, \"underdog\" white German people what they wanted to hear, who created a social climate that allowed the very worst of humanity to emerge from under its rock, who scoffed at intellectuals and the media and anyone else who didn't buy into his world view. This is the Hitler that President Trump so closely resembles.\n\nThat is a similarity whether you want to accept it or not. People are trying to understand how the fuck the US has gotten so insane, so they look to probably the most famous example of a western country descending into madness. Also pretty sure this was an opinion piece. \n\nYou seem to be blaming the comparisons on the people making them, when regardless they would be accurate. He is what he is. Why do you think a professor of modern german history would think to draw comparisons between Hitler and Trump? Why would the 'Anne Frank Centre' think the same?\n\nYou're trying to paint a general feeling and sense by the general public as some sort of tabloid agenda. The news reflects the people in this instance. ",
"I knew you were going to quote that part.\n\n\nNo, I am not blaming the comparisons on the people making them, I am pointing out that they make this comparison *constantly* in the media. They are constantly reporting negative things about Trump in a way that is disproportionately more bashful than the treatment of previous presidents, rife with agendas and narratives out the wazoo, so when I see yet another talking point being shoved constantly, with everything *outside* of your one quote in that one article that I linked trying their best to push a \"Trump is like Hitler\" narrative, I'm going to call it out.\n\n\nAre some comparisons accurate? Yes. Are they right to mention them? Yes. Should there be a large-scale effort to try and overexaggerate as much as possible, to the point that some companies (like the one that contains your quote) are starting to realize that the general population *knows* that Trump isn't Hitler, and that any comparisons are going to have to be tamer and only refer to pre-WWII Hitler in order for their narrative to make any sense? No. No, it's disgusting and wrong.\n\n\nI do see what you're saying now, that the press should have the free right to call these comparisons out for what they are, because they exist, and you are very-much correct about that, and I believe they should have the right to this as well. Where my difference lies is that I'm noticing a narrative in the bigger picture of things, and *that* is what's pissing me off about these articles above all else.\n\n\nThe news is representing some people's thoughts, but they are *absolutely* not mentioning all of them. Like you mentioned earlier, T_D absolutely loves Trump to death, and at one point they were one of the fastest growing subreddits ever, so there is also a very large group of people who are not being reflected at all with these articles.\n\n\nAlso, just to clarify, imo the general public does not have a tabloid agenda, but based on what I've seen over the past year, I believe the media does.\n\nEDIT: You said I ignored nuance, but you didn't mention that I said it was comparing to \"1930s\" Hitler in the description of the article, so I was already well aware of that article's difference.",
">I knew you were going to quote that part.\n\nYou mean the part directly contradicting your claims? That doesn't help your case, you just sound even less genuine now.\n\n>They are constantly reporting negative things about Trump in a way that is disproportionately more bashful than the treatment of previous presidents\n\nGet to fuck. I'm sorry, i'm not entertaining this fucking ludicrous idea that the negative press coverage is disproportionate. It's entirely proportionate with how much of a gigantic fuckup Trump is. If you from the off are going to claim that it's media bias and not a genuine reflection of how people feel, then there's no fucking point. You've ckearly absorbed some of the delusions of t_d.\n\n>Are some comparisons accurate? Yes. Are they right to mention them? Yes. \n\nOkay. \n\n>Should there be a large-scale effort to try and overexaggerate as much as possible, to the point that some companies (like the one that contains your quote) are starting to realize that the general population knows that Trump isn't Hitler, and that any comparisons are going to have to be tamer and only refer to pre-WWII Hitler in order for their narrative to make any sense? No. No, it's disgusting and wrong\n\nWell good thing there ISN'T A LARGE SCALE EFFORT TO DO THAT. This is why you're a fucking imbecile, you aconowledge there are comparisons to be made... And yet act as if people making these comparison s YOU YOURSELF deemed fair are simply toning down some percieved agenda, even though you can't find anything to support the notion that that is even their agenda at all. ",
"Only that what you mention is only gutter press. If you buy such a news outlet you should know what you get. ",
"How does it feel waking up and being more and more wrong everyday?",
" Republicans have lost over 30 elections, in stunning fashion, since trump took office and this November is going to see them crushed even further into the ground . Mueller has trumps ppl falling over themsleves to cut a deal. Trump is protested around the globe and it's only a matter of time until he and all your other nazi heroes are locked up.\n\nBeing wrong feels so great",
"Even that can't be proven. The alt-right has state funding as example. But even then they target different polls. Setting bot against bot is what they don't want to do because it end up with too high numbers and it would look too unrealistc. ",
"Nobody believes your propaganda. \n\nIf Trump is nailed to the wall, why does the crooked FBI keep deleting evidence from their investigation? ",
"> You mean the part directly contradicting your claims? That doesn't help your case, you just sound even less genuine now.\n\n\nBut it wasn't a direct contradiction.\n\n\n> I'm sorry, i'm not entertaining this fucking ludicrous idea that the negative press coverage is disproportionate.\n\nHere is an actual study that showed it *is* disproportionate, especially when considering that, relatively speaking, Bush, another commonly deemed fuckup, only received slightly more negative press than Obama, who, outside of memes, is regarded very highly by the general public: https://www.npr.org/2017/10/02/555092743/study-news-coverage-of-trump-more-negative-than-for-other-presidents\n\n\n> This is why you're a fucking imbecile,\n\n\nAnother unwarranted personal attack.\n\n\n> even though you can't find anything to support the notion that that is even their agenda at all.\n\n\nWell with the link I gave you above, please explain to me what the reasons are for that extreme of an outlier to exist, unless you actually believe Trump is actually *that* bad, and that the press is deserving because of that.\n\n\nIf that is the case, then this is our fundamental difference that is not going to be able to be compromised with. I think that Trump is not as bad as the media are making him out to be, but not as good as echo-chambers like T_D make him out to be either. You think that he's an absolute piece of shit, and that the media are justified in making their claims.\n\n\n*Also, because you decided that you just had to make more personal attacks, I'm not going to be discussing this with you any further. I'm not going to have a mature conversation with you if you're going to keep throwing around \"oh your so dumb\" comments, and being an all-around prick about things.*",
"This is what feels so great. I dont care what you believe, this is what's actually happening. Whether you believe or not will not change the indictments, it wont change the charges, it wont change the sentences that will be handed down in time.\n\nBelieve what you want, reality is on my side.\n\nWho's under investigation? Clinton? No, trump \n\nWho's first year in office is a complete disaster? Obama? No, trump\n\nWho has staff going to jail and making deals? Clinton? No, trump\n\nWho gets protested by our own allies? Obama? No, trump\n\nThe list of shit that's really happening is endless. Trumps fucking lawyers jad to get lawyers. That's normal to you?\n\nYeah, this does feel great. It's gonna take some time but these guys are fucked",
"One question, and you can't even answer it. Five months worth of evidence! \n\nVery few people think the way you do, and most of them are paid for it. ",
"> took Econ\n\nWoah, look out guys: we got a real expert here. This guy took Macroeconomics. Maybe even Micro-, too!",
"I agree with you that atheist should avoid adopting a burden of proof. My experience of being fairly well involved in online and community atheist gatherings is that atheist largely separate lack of belief from assertions. \n\nWhat is interesting is how the standards change when talking about gods. I don’t think people would get upset when I say mermaids don’t exist. I don’t think someone would tell me to “prove mermaids don’t exist.” However, with a god, I do have to explain the difference between a lack of belief and asserting something doesn’t exist.",
"I have a bachelors of science in mathematics focusing in actuarial science. I know my Econ. ",
"Do you have anything better to do than troll and harass all day?",
"This dude's been harassing me and others all day, please report.",
"Lol well I'm not doing either.... You on the other hand are still indulging me. ",
"Oh, shit, a BACHELORS degree! Whew lord is my face red! \n\nApologies, genius!",
"Please stop replying to every single comment I make. \nAlso funny how you are playing the victim now... You had a lot of fucking ban worthy things to say earlier ",
"Name one ban worthy thing. As opposed to the countless ban worthy things you've been spamming on all my comments.",
"That's literally all you've done. And lie about how rich and successful you are. ",
"Clearly, given that you can't speak above a middle school level.",
"Except I said neither of those things and you're literally lying lol. You're resorting to straight up lying. That won't hold up with the mods.",
"To answer your absurd question is easy: they're aren't. Stop listening to russian propaganda \n\nVery few ppl think like me? 300 protests against trump across the united states last saturday, protests in every single state. Even people in other countries protested against him in solidarity with us. You going to tell me that didn't happen too? \n\nThe facts are on my side. All you have is conspiracy bullshit",
"So the FBI lied when they admitted that they lost evidence? Lol who's full of bullshit? ",
"Yes but even if that american group had state funding they surely wouldnt target german magazines, and the poll numbers are in similar numbers as all their others, so there can't be much skewing going on.",
"well fake news ~ lugenpresse, for one",
"I've seen nothing about the feds losing evidence ",
"Seriously? Front Nationale had russian state funding, AfD had it too. Why should they differ from the american alt-right by getting state paid social media support? Manipulation of polls is the easiest because you don't even need a people who know the language to create believable comments and can get it covered without language knowledge.",
"Lol well at least you're honest about being willfully ignorant, I'll give you that! Your attempted gaslighting is inexcusable though. ",
"I had to Google it. Text messages between 2 people? Are you kidding me? I guess now trump will go free lol \n\nBtw , you may not realize this distinction but Robert Mueller is getting a PROSECUTION ready, he isn't just \"looking into things\". Traitors and criminals are going to jail, despite your concerns about texting",
"To me it could be mermaids, ghosts or gods... doesn't matter.",
"CIA director John Brennan puts chance at 20-25%\n\nhttp://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-war-2018-given-5050-chances-nonproliferation-expert-estimate-706692\n\nRetired supreme allied commander of NATO Adm. James Stavridis puts odds of nuclear war at 10%\nhttps://www.vox.com/2017/9/28/16375158/north-korea-nuclear-war-trump-kim-jong-un\n\nMark Fitzpatrick, the executive director of the global security think tank International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) Americas puts odds of nuclear war at 50%\nhttp://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-war-2018-given-5050-chances-nonproliferation-expert-estimate-706692\n\nWhy are Americans citizens and military members at risk of this future? Because of willfully ignorant and treasonous trash like you.\nEnjoy the fires of hell, traitor. ",
"More gaslighting. I'm done here. I'm sure you'll have to get the last word though. ",
"I'm sure the leadership in DPRK want to kill themselves. This is fear mongering at best. They launch a nuke and their whole country will be glassed. I don't think Kim wants to die. ",
"Idk if you're trolling or if you're an elitist prick. ",
"Russian state funding, come on. Even if thats true, what did they spent? 5000 Euro? And they burn it on bots on Welt magazine? sure. Ive seen their 'buro' at the voting times on video, they sit in something that looks like a old bingo club they rent on the weekend with a 20\" CRT TV. Youre searching for excuses, just accept reality. ",
"Front Nationale got 12 million euro from russia that are clearly documented. ",
"I wasnt talking about Front nationale. Look this is just the sentiment in the country, its not russians, party manipulation or crazy botting, thats what majority of the population thinks. 90% surely not but easily around 70%. It was 50% at the honeymoon time which is documented, so it can only be somewhere over 50 and under 100. ",
"So you have to throw away 70% of the votes. The question is which. Because you can't draw them totally equally. You have to draw average on all polls but you have to vary them on each individual one. Because the amount of bot votes can sway between 55-80% towards one side in each poll. When you have only every third vote as real you lose them in the variance of the bot vote in every single poll. \n\nAnd then you have to problem who you ask.",
" democrats are not \"the left\". CNN are absolutely centrist",
"As I already said, this is nonsense, all their polls are in those number ballparks, which clearly shows that there can not possibly much more than 10-20% skewing going on, and the most likely event is that there is no botting at all, unless you want to say that all their polls about many varied subjects are about equally botted for some reason, which of course would be astronomical. This is a magazine, not anything important, there is little reason to even attempt to manipulate that. ",
"I know that you're a moron.",
"I've been banned multiple times.",
"He's a nationalistic dickhead who hates the free press, hates people who use their right to protest and calls them unpatriotic, talked about targeting the families of terrorists, wants to do things \"worse than waterboarding\", and bases his political campaigning on inciting hatred against groups of minorities. \n\nHitler comparisons are warranted IMO, just because he's incompetent doesn't mean that he gets a pass, if he was handed absolute power I have no doubt that he would do terrible things. ",
"He's the latter: zero arguments, but doing nothing but belittle others and point to Dunning-Kruger unironically.",
"Mobile phooonnessss",
"Damn don't remember ever having a mustache and being able to speak fluent german",
"Then you're a Russian Bot! ",
"You following me around reddit now, brah? Go back to the_donald.",
"Just checking what kind of person you were and you were harassing other in the same way I saw.\n\nI dont visit T_D btw, I was actually more in S4P before the election.",
"> I was actually more in S4P before the election\n\nI'm sure your white supremacist nonsense was well received there!\n\n*eyeroll*",
"Economic issues I believe in are more important than an ideology which isnt mine despite what you claim. Obviously they can take their PC Latinx etc to where the sun dont shine.\n\nI am also in an interracial relationship, so why would I be a white supremacist and \"soil the race\" or whatever those people call it if I was one of them? ",
"> an ideology which isnt mine\n\nAgain: I actually believe that you believe that...\n\n> Obviously they can take their PC Latinx etc to where the sun dont shine.\n\n...and yet...\n\n> I am also in an interracial relationship, so why would I be a white supremacist and \"soil the race\" or whatever those people call it if I was one of them?\n\n...SMH",
"Well, it is your right to believe that. I chose to be less judgemental myself :)",
"> I chose to be less judgemental myself\n\nNo, you don't. ",
"Your post history contains a lot of insults for person that is less judgmental.\n\nYou are seeing enemies where there are none.",
"Again: I actually think you believe this. All of it. \n\nBut, to clarify: I'm judging racists. You're judging *entire races of people*.\n\nHave a great day.",
"Nowhere did I pass any judgement. I just stated a belief, but I didn't pass judgement.\n\nAnd in that belief, it certainly does not pertain to every single individual of any group, but a group average. I feel a lot of people misread statistics that way on this site. There are smarter and dumber, more violent and more peaceful, friendlier and grumpier people than myself amongst any group of people.",
"hahaha",
"I hope one day you'll be able to read what people say, instead of read things between the lines that aren't there. It will do you good as you'll see people aren't as bad as you \"believe\"\n\nHave a great day too.",
"I hope one day you develop the capacity for self-reflection.",
"I have. I've had days where something I believe in was proven wrong, and since those days I am never sure of anything 100% anymore. I still believe things, but I always keep in the back of my mind I can be wrong.\n\nTry it one day.",
"[Another day, another Trump supporter terrorist.](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/teenage-neo-nazi-christmas-breakup-parents-boyfriend-girlfriend-reston-virginia-a8127096.html)",
"Trump is not a vegetarian, though. So we should be okay.",
"Are you, by any chance, subbed to r/T_D and r/libertarian ? Cause that's the kind of blanket, ridiculous statement that can only hold up against the logic of those types of subs.",
"Trumps view on Mexicans: \"They are not our friend. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.\" He adamantly pushed the notion that our first black president was born in Kenya. He wants to kick Mexican Americans out, stop Muslims from coming in, defends white supremacists and calls them \"fine people\". He was quoted last week saying \"why do we want all these people from shithole countries coming here?\" He views black Americans as a novelty. This worldview, the notion that Americans are white and everyone else is either below us or an intruder, is exactly as toxic as Hitler. The difference is how Hitler decided to act upon this line of thinking.",
" If Trump is called Hitler and his supporters are constantly being called nazis, it destroys the actual meaning behind the word to the point people aren't going to give a fuck what they're being called because he's obviously not Hitler. Do people forget his stance on Israel?",
"They both have hair and they are both men! Call me crazy but I don't believe in coincidences! Trump = Hitler",
"Sounds like a human being born with a hole where the 'originality' lobe of the brain is normally located.",
"I'm not responsible for the language other people use. All I'm saying, and will maintain, is that we do have *real Nazis* in the country today, and they're politically active. It's not my problem that other people might misuse the word, because I'm using it correctly.",
"Any thought to Trump not implementing Russian sanctions?",
"Are you responding to an 8 day old comment right now? Sheesh, TDS is a real affliction.\n\nHey remember that time Black Jesus gave a few billion dollars in cash to our enemies in Iran?",
"Ah. The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action. Aka Iran nuclear deal. How’d that turn out for you? You bummed on Iran being returned frozen assets and having sanctions lifted in return for giving up nuclear weapons?\n \n Any thought on the current state of affairs.... the traitor president giving our country away to the Russians while relentlessly bashing our intelligence community? \n \nWhy isn’t he signing off on the sanctions? Any thoughts? I’ll give you a hint:\n \nhttps://i.imgur.com/QcYlvay.jpg ",
"Russian collusion is a farce, and always was. It was a phony legal cover story for Obama's administration to spy on Trump for political purposes using national security tools. This story is exponentially worse than Watergate.",
"Lol https://i.imgur.com/lPH2sN5.jpg \n \nWhere are the sanctions?",
"Up your ass. Go look.",
"Collusion! Treason!\n \nYou fucking know it.\n \nRussia did Trump a favor, and now he’s keeping up his end of the deal. Good to know he cares about at least one country. But it’s not the USA. ",
"You remind me of that Japanese soldier who shot Philippine villagers for three decades after World War II ended because he refused to come out of the jungle and admit defeat. I suppose it would be a tough thing to accept, that you've been snookered for the past year by people you trust.\n\nRussian collusion is 100% pure, grade-A DC insider bullshit, just like Saddam's WMD's -- and the longer liberals keep ranting about The Russians, the crazier your side looks to moderate American voters. So hey, by all means, keep fucking that chicken.",
"Honest question. Why has Trump skipped Russian sanctions?\n \n\n \nHow do you not see the Russians trying to influence and infiltrate every western power at the moment? Do you deny that that’s happening?\n \nThe fact that you think this Russian thing is 100% made up. Shows that Trumps lugenpresse is working on you. ",
"Desperation is a stinky cologne.\n\nYou were lied to, and you gobbled it up like a chump.",
"What’s with Trump not implementing sanctions?",
"I am not President of the United States Donald Trump, so you are asking the wrong person.\n\nBut it smells like yet another coordinated media hit piece based on a bullshit narrative. I wouldn't even wipe my ass with The Jeff Bezos Washington Post...\n\n\"Trump doesn't impose *NEW* sanctions, he's just complying with existing law! Outrage!\" This is as stupid as saying *you paid your taxes, but why didn't you pay more?*\n\nThe Dems want punitive sanctions for political reasons, it's all for show. And the premise of the new sanctions would be that Russia \"hacked our election\" which... is bullshit!",
"You are really reaching pal. A media hit piece? The new sanctions were an overwhelming bipartisan agreement. 2 no votes. 98 yes. Trump is the only one that feels Russia doesn’t need any more sanctions. Guess why? Just take a fucking guess. They helped him get to where he is, and he’s paying them back. The Trump tower lawyer, the one Trump said was talking to his son about “adoptions”, she just got outed in Switzerland for corruption https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-tower-russian-lawyer-natalia-veselnitskaya-exposed-in-swiss-corruption-case\n \nSince you won’t read it. She was trying to recruit double agents and is accused of bribery. She’s part of the reason the sanctions didn’t pass. Bribery son. \n \nThe fact that you think Russia didn’t hack our elections or at the very least attempt to compromise them, is just total insanity. Pompeo even says the same. He’s a Trump fan, but he’s seen the evidence http://www.newsweek.com/russia-will-meddle-2018-midterm-elections-says-cia-chief-mike-pompeo-trump-794863\n \nGet your head out of the clouds bud. ",
"[Why did Obama DOJ grant Veselnitskaya 'extraordinary access' to the US without a visa?](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341788-exclusive-doj-let-russian-lawyer-into-us-before-she-met-with-trump) Because it was [a setup](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/07/fusion-gps-official-met-with-russian-operative-before-and-after-trump-jr-sit-down.html\n).",
"Yeah. That’s it. A set up. Lol. ",
"So you're just going to ignore the opinions of the generals, military and intelligence officials that spend their lives researching this topic. Sad that so many American civilians and military members have to die because of willfully ignorant traitors like you. Just as long as you know you're not a christian or a patriot do what you like I guess. ",
"That's cute, did it really take you 7 days to come up with that?",
"Of course you have no defense for yourself, you people are all the same; both you and I know that your soul is empty.",
"You wait 7 days then just sling mud. \n\n>you people are all the same;\n\nYou see, your bigotry overshadows any credible statement you might have made.",
"Lol, whatever lie you need to tell yourself. That's all you people have are lies.",
"It's 100% condescending, the whole way through. ",
"Please never tell again that you're Canadian.",
"You mean Pence? I know, I’m worried about that too. (Only half sarcasm there).\n\nI hear you and I agree, very scary reality. Although I have to wonder how today’s “listening” event came to be. Seems like they made a deal internally and went to him and aid, “they’re all going to thank you and sing your praises, and you can’t say a word, that’s how we’ll win, ok?” And he agreed thinking he was all powerful since they had to thank him for “allowing” them to speak. I’m really, really, hoping there are some wheels turning together to quietly guide things in a not-so-dangerous direction for us, and we’ll learn about it once he’s safely out of office. \n\nFat chance, I know. 😞",
"Check out this dude's post history. Bigoted dbag is an appropriate description. Keep those downvotes rolln",
"iirc he is actually american and his parents are african, so he was overstating a bit"
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"Picture taken in Budapest by Danish photographer Vagn Hansen. \nErika Szeles fought in the Hungarian revolution, and was eventually shot by the Soviets. She was buried in the Kerepesi Churchyard in Budapest. Her grave still exists today.",
"pretty ",
"r/anticommunistboners"
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"Looks pretty solid. Got any more?",
"I like the can opener one.",
"No flying saucer, eh?",
"Love these, please make a ig and post more everyday items reimagined in a sci-fi context, I'll give you half my internet points.",
"Nice p51 inspired can opener fighter.",
"Which? There are two.",
"I always thought Boba Fett’s Slave was inspired by a hand sander.",
"As a kid i pretended kitchen utensils were spaceships. \n\nGood on you for bringing me back to that time.",
"Those are great! I never thought as a kid to use some of those but I absolutely loved the vegetable steamers https://i.imgur.com/DVlLKql.jpg. I would sit my action figures in the middle and fly them around. ",
"the can opener has been my preten spaceship for years. Lovely drawings, really dig it.",
"Really? Didn't notice. The top one.",
"Yeah! The bottom one looks impossible to land. xD",
"I’d like to know who the original artist is. I’m guessing it’s not OP. ",
"how do you not have this one:\nhttps://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1.KwtQVXXXXcQXVXXq6xXFXXXd/GOUGU-Stainless-Steel-Wine-Bottle-Opener-Corkscrew-Rotating-Opener-Kitchen-Accessory-Bar-Tool.jpg_640x640.jpg\n\nMy childhood starship",
"https://entroz.deviantart.com/gallery/",
"TIL the shape of kitchen utensils makes for bad ass looking space ships. I know what I'm gonna be thinking about when I cook from now on.",
"Reminds me a bit of the concept art in the old homeworld game manuals",
"It's a space ship with artificial gravity. Just unfold the wings and it can rotate. :)",
"It's a robot, you heathen.\n\nWith a coiled spring for legs.",
"Why would it need to land :P",
"that is what you have docking stations for.",
"Like a hard spinal dock? Hm. I guess if it's in a hangar?",
"So the pilot can get out/maintenance. Even if it's a drone it's gotta come down.",
"I more meant, it's a spaceship in space without gravity, it can 'hang' from a launcher or just float all the time, who knows. ",
"Everybody knows that the P-38 starfighters stabilizing fin folds up underneath the main hull when landing and when not in attack position",
"Ah, that's the older P-38 model. The P-51 was upraded to a larger more sturdy hull and chassis while retaining the general silhouette. While stronger and a bit more wieldly it came at an expense, early models were slow to deploy and many pilots were left stuck in the 38 while the better Ace fighters got their 51s first. ",
"I hadn't heard of this craft til today, so not everyone. I thought you meant the Lightning which uh... is pretty different.",
"Sure, but ~~most~~ a lot of space fighters in sci fi are portrayed as having a landable bottomside, even if only in emergencies.",
"Hah!",
"Original artist is Eric Geusz. His Instagram handle is spacegooose ",
"I'm glad this was the first post I saw.",
"And I guess this isn't one of them.",
"I guess not. xD It seems impractical to me, but probably in a good world setting it could.",
"The asymmetry is fucking bothering me",
"i read somewhere that it was inspired by the head of the street lamps at skywalker ranch (or wherever ILM was based during ESB). Makes sense when you think about it.",
"What are your thoughts on the Nissan Cube?",
"Now this is podracing",
"https://www.google.com/search?q=p-38+can+opener",
"You didn't do this as a child? ",
"How curious! I didn't know those had a designation. ",
"Congratulations! You're one of today's lucky 10,000.",
"https://i.imgur.com/Lpvsnlk.gif"
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"\"That'll teach you to pet me longer than 4 seconds!\"",
"Omnomnom :3",
"angry cat",
"Let me play you the song of my people.",
"I am looking at the facial expression of this cat for way to long now",
"Hangry*",
"That little devil. 😈",
"That is one cute cat. Great pic😊",
"It's like an albino Toothless.\n\nWhite Fury! Get down!",
"\"When the sign says don't feed the bears, man you'd better not feed the bears\" Homer Simpson",
"You hongry?",
"If I wasn’t on my phone I’d photoshop a harmonica or flute in place of the arm ",
"(((m o n c h)))",
"My cat bit me for no reason the first week I had her. So I bit her back. She was so utterly confused that she kept her distance from me for a week. She never bit me for no reason again.",
"Mischievous bite.",
"The only noise I seem to get from this flute is pained yowling!",
"Aww, little bear",
"That cat is surely pissed.",
"Play mode. It's not using its claws ",
"Monch",
"Where are my treats!",
"i did the same thing with my puppy, She was teething, gave her tons of toys to play with and she would still bite me. So finally when she bit me I bit her back and I swear she was like \"oh... that does hurt..\"",
"That’s a big cat. \n\nGorgeous, too. ",
"that's the trick. my 2nd male cat was an alpha kitten and hated that the bigger cat had 20lbs on him, so he'd always lose the play fights. \n\nhe would squall if you held him down. while playing one day he just walked over on the computer desk and bit me on hand. I was like WTF. scooped him up and bit him on the scruff of his neck like his mom would and just held it there a few seconds. little shit ass fell right into place after that.",
"give her a glass of milk ",
"Or shorter than 3.5.",
"milk is bad for cats. And never give kittens milk, could kill them. [no joke](http://www.paw-rescue.org/kitten_care.php)",
"That nose wrinkle! ",
"The expression says it all. ",
"Huh. Must be an oboe.",
"Looks like a blonde Toothless. ",
"!dreambot10",
"Got those toothless eyes ",
"Why They do that",
"\"I iz fierce! I iz bite you!\"",
"Looks like toothless from how to train your dragon",
"What kind of cat is this?\n",
"Nah, ears are peaking straight up and fur is flat. That's a cat having fun. ",
"We call it Кусь",
"I think, yes.",
"I call this the furious doodle flute. I start whistling tunes and dancing when my cat does it. It's the only retaliation I have.",
"Treats or you get teefies",
"Ears were probably downward when the cat owner took the picture. The cat got distracted by the gadget and its ears went straight.",
"You has a flavor!",
"This is my cat's favorite past time. My husband's arm is a wreck. "
] | 46 |
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[
"probably the result of a few 100 papers and a couple glasses of wine later",
"The cupcake solution is wrong as well. \"Each package has 4 cupcakes in it\"\n\nSo a package looks like [ c c c c ] (where 'c' represents a cupcake, and not 'o') and not:\n\n| c c | \n| c c |\n\n",
"I would dispute it. It's 5x3; not 3x5.",
"It’s also 4 X 6 on the one below it.",
"So much for the communicative property. ",
"This is the kind of shit that puts kids off math. ",
"I freaking hate “new” math. Helping my kids with their math homework infuriates me for specifically the reason pointed out on this test. Math is great because the answer is the answer - no matter how you arrive there. ",
"Nah. A chance for a kid to prove he or she is smarter than the teacher? That’s how Fields Medals are born.",
"r/BadMathematics ",
"The way it is taught, \"x\" is read as \"groups of\" so 5x3 is \"5 groups of 3.\" The communicative property is still taught, but that doesn't appear to be the purpose of this particular assessment.",
"Having taught chemistry and encountered this issue a lot, (as crappy as it is) sometimes it's more about demonstrating whatever method is being taught instead of getting the correct answer. It looks like for this question and the one under it they're supposed to be doing the process on the basis of the second number in the equation (3 and 6). ",
"Julie needs to lay off the damn cupcakes should be an acceptable answer.",
"I saw that too. This whole thing is so stupid. "
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[
"They'll never know how truly ridiculous those ears are. ",
"Nice pic",
"MooseDog.",
"R/Weimaraner",
"Such good dogs. I miss mine.",
"classic click ",
"Not sure if you just missed your opportunity at “dashing through the snow”..."
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Running through the snow
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[
"Looks like mist to me..",
"Bone chiller cold 😨😨😨",
"That might be freezing fog.",
"Fog",
"Oh shit I’m busted!"
] | 5 |
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[
"Oh that would make my day too",
"Why not both?",
"I like the way you think Spacecowboy.",
"Really? ",
"Better quality uncropped image with the full bike can be found [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/67za8e/well_meeeoowww/dguo8gd)\n\n[imgur link](https://i.imgur.com/LsUZkdU.jpg) ",
"I wonder if she has a scythe like Celty.",
"Thought provoking",
"Goddammit. I don't need an erection right now ",
"Photoshoot or actual rider?",
"Bike.",
"I could see her riding a Ninja.\n\nEdit: \"Ninja\" is a bike model made by Kawasaki (the brand pictured).",
"Priorities.",
"And one more. \n\nhttp://i.imgur.com/1NmGgDU.jpg",
"Would this be considered CATGATT?",
"Hnngggg",
"Found the party animal.",
"Only one of them has curves tho",
"Noice. ",
"His name was Bruce Wayne ;)",
"Found the edge master.",
"Bruce Wayne is an upstanding member of the Gotham community! How dare you accuse him of fraternizing with criminal heathen. \n\nBatman on the other hand is put a ring on that shit. ",
"Probs. ",
"Location: [Wrocław, Poland](https://goo.gl/maps/UVbHJbsFGL92).",
"Anyone know where this photo was taken?",
"Actual rider, but she sold motorcycle few ~~months~~ weeks ago. ",
"I used to live in the block of flats 180 degrees behind where you linked to.",
"Alright, meow, do you know why I pulled you over?",
"??",
"It's Blade Master thanks",
"Convert those ears to air scoops to cool her head! ",
"Flat ass",
"Meow what is so damn funny? ",
"Boo. Most of the links in that thread no longer work.",
"The armor in that outfit seems a bit lacking.\n\nI'm not complaining though.",
"Yea I don't get it either. ",
"Did she get a better one?",
"Durararara cosplay?",
"EMTs will have a hell of a time with that suit...",
"Well, it's clearly not actual riding leathers, but rather a thin costume.",
"Does she have an ass like Anne Hathaway's?",
"Celty, is that u??",
"r/UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG",
"She's going to cause a lot of crashes",
"I was thinking the same thing",
"On facebook sale group she said she don't have time to ride and she's not gonna buy another bike.",
"Thanks, but I'm not a ninja.",
"Found master blaster. ",
"This is 100% because it’s a girl. If it was a guy everyone would be cringing instead of salivating ",
"Meeow!!",
"I've heard about this chick, totally bad ass sexy",
"Heh",
"Depends on the guy.",
"https://www.google.com/maps/@51.1124129,17.0180404,3a,75y,19.44h,87.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siG3RWz7tLik4nbKapIDzBg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656",
"Some people just wanna make your day brighter...I think she qualifies.",
"I want one",
"Smiling is all about the eyes.",
"How?",
"Nah, [these](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/414PdM%2BgWuL._SY450_.jpg) will still do the trick.",
"A girl dressed for attention actually enjoying said attention? There's no way this picture was taken in the US.\n\nEdit: Yep, it's in Poland. Caaaalled iiiit.",
"If a woman was dressed up as a lot of male characters it wouldn't make sense either. The same way any man dressed as Catwoman wouldn't make sense. ",
"That's just a prosthetic head.",
"6/10\n\nHelmet is the wrong color and there is a head in it.",
"came here for this",
"More : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ9msja9IiE",
"Oh my, some whore in skimpy clothes knows that she looks fuckable? I am SHOCKED!",
"Thats hawt♡♡♡",
"You must do well with women.",
"No padding at all in the leather is going to lead to a bad time if she does indeed go down.",
"Damn that's a smart solution to a problem I didn't know existed until now",
"I just hope she's not involved in them. That bodysuit offers zero protection. :(",
"If she bails wearing that she's gonna die",
"I mean, I get my nut off alright.",
"You must continue your [Google-fu](http://i.imgur.com/teKtfZq.jpg) training. When you are able to snatch the meme from my hand, you will be ready.\n\nEDIT - More google-fu'ing has provided a (tentatively identified) video of her:\n\n[VID](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QABKnH3GUoI)",
"People can’t just “go down”. They’re born that way.",
"You didn't know scissors were a solution to the problem of cuttings stuff safely?",
"Why are you slut-shaming some woman because of her attire? ",
"I'm going to pretend I understand the reference. ",
"It's angled and has a plastic tip on one end to safely and easily press it down against skin to get under tight or difficult clothing! Regular scissors wouldn't be nearly as safe",
"Firstly, Rule 63. Secondly, Cosplayers *love* genderbending. As long as the guy/gal isn't gross about it, anything's fair game. Wouldn't be weird for either.",
"Dear god ...",
"ofcourse! It would be bad cosplay. [Catman uses brown tones and a cape](http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Thomas_Blake_(New_Earth\\))",
"I guess so. I don't really look at much cosplaying.",
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_syndrome",
"Those things are gnarly too, my friend who's a firefighter gave me a pair and you can cut a penny in half with them",
"There's plenty of signage in the background to search for the location.",
"Thanks-the bike is what I wanted to see more of ",
"The trick is to involve a woman. ",
"so you're saying I could wear a motorcycle jacket made out of pennies?",
"Someone should've told her how to hold a gun first, lol.",
"/r/furry_IRL",
"I'm passing that exact point several times a week.",
"I take it you don't watch tv. ",
"Realize it's a joke, but girls do like attention, just not when it's leering or unending",
"Yes, but why would you? You could use dimes and be ten times better. ",
"0/10 too much head",
"What happens when you fart in leather? Does it spread around inside the suit or does a ball of gas just sit there by your butt?",
"Even though I’m not a furry this sub still cracks me up.",
"She looks like a character from an anime. ",
"Looks like vinyl, not proper leather, so it's gonna shred the second she hits the pavement, followed by her skin. No CE armor either, aside from her gloves and boots. She's in for a real bad time if she crashes. ",
"I'm sorry are you saying meow?",
"I'm not made of money now",
"ok buddy back to call of duty",
"She's literally sitting on an escape vehicle if someone gets creepy",
"haha you got some issues dude are you an incel",
"> there is a head in it.\n\nI haven't seen the anime why would there be no head",
"you posted a picture of a fucking cake container\n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/7qp3am/the_loudest_thing_ever_created_by_man/\n\nI don't think you are really in a place to decide what an interesting picture is.",
"Ma’am I’m need to see your license and registration right meow",
"i don't know why but the picture made me laugh in that link. ",
"There is a built in sphincter in the suit ",
"not much trigger discipline here",
"It was stolen.",
"Meow, meow..... again meowing ",
"> I'm not made of money **meow**",
"literally ep1 lol",
"Enjoy. I don't have that game.",
"spoiler alerts are important, but that's literally in the opening haha. there's more relevant spoilers about what happened to head rather than who she is. ",
"Damn everyone is hating on her suit when guys are riding around in shorts and a t-shirt -_-",
"Yummy.",
"\"You're so gorgeous, Panther.\"",
"Legnicka street in Warsaw, Poland",
"The odds are good of that being her channel:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ9msja9IiE",
"CoD is how you get the sort of bad habits she's got.",
"Okay it’s wrong but I can’t stop giggling at this ",
"She better hope she don’t crash, that get-up isn’t saving anything",
"-whistles- oh was that rude?...sorry for the cat call. ",
"It's common sense.",
"[Celty](http://durarara.wikia.com/wiki/Celty_Sturluson) is a type of Irish fairy called a dullahan. Her bike is actually her steed, it changes form to blend in with the times. Extremely cool character.",
"I think it's well known and voiced those people are retards ",
"Knowing what?",
"License and registration...chicken fucker! BAAKKAAAWWWKK!!!",
"why the stupid cat ears ?",
"The earlier in it is the less of the story is spoiled. In this case maybe 2 minutes of the show. Compare that to revealing who the leader of the dollars is and you can see the difference in magnitude.",
"I'm not an expert, so I may be wrong - but I don't think that appears to be durable or thick enough to be protective gear for riders. That looks more like a costume.",
"Durarara right?",
"So, in front?",
"Catwoman from Batman",
"But enjoy every minute of it",
"If you were, you wouldn’t need money armor.",
"She knowing what I'm thinking ",
"Silver dollars are a hundred times better. ",
"Hats what I’m saying, it’s so sticky looking, even those might have trouble. And if the bike caught fire.....",
"Asking the real questions here!",
"(bites knuckles)",
"No idea why you got so downvoted.",
"Good lord",
"https://imgur.com/QmAkSmd \ncatman is ok.",
"We’re all going to hell",
"I wish our children won't grow up in a place where \"how to hold a gun properly\" is considered \"common sense\".",
"No.",
"Or at least take a video of her firing it.\n\nScope, meet eyeball!",
"Share with r/NekoIRL! ",
" honestly I care less about that then the butt not even being tucked into her shoulder. I mean of course trigger discipline is more important for safety, but i hope the only people she could accidentally shoot are the people that prepped the gun and gave it to her without teaching her anything.",
"The truth hurts apparently ",
"You you gotta be *that* guy...",
"Thanks Reddit - I really wanted to ponder this for the rest of today.",
"in this particular suit there is a straw. you know, so you can suck on her farts",
"Happy Cake Day sharkie",
"in five years you’re gonna look back on your comment history and just cringe",
"Luckily, she's not wearing a seatbelt...",
"That's what gun control really should be...",
"But stealing is wrong.",
"In full motorcycle leathers, it has been my experience that the fart will travel up the back of the jacket and since they are usually designed to minimize open spaces, it'll transfer into the helmet. \n\nI advise strategically expelling the flatus while wearing more permeable trousers, and opening the face shield in preparation. \n\nYou can also mitigate the issue by leaving the jacket front unzipped, and opening any aeration vents, so there is a lot of airflow in the torso area. However opening the front does undermine the jacket's safety design. Depending on what you've eaten lately, might be worth it. ",
"Where do I sign up?",
"...no shit its a costume?\n\nI dont see why you replied as such. The person you replied to is well aware that its improper riding gear. People wear improper gear all the time.",
"Have you ever sat flat when you fart? You can feel the fart bubble navigate its way out. So from that we can hypothesize that it travels up entire suit and comes out either behind you or in front of your face. ",
"That is where you will find my face. ",
"Lol I live in Wisconsin, not only is that normal but you do not have to wear a helmet while riding here ",
"yeah, she looks like 50 shades of bat shit crazy ",
"*Breaths in* \nAerodynamics",
"cmonBruh",
"\"Knowing\" as in she just got a bunch of \"those\" notifications?",
"I thought it was funny ",
"Sounds like he wants to cmonher.\n\n*buh dum tss*",
"Am I a furry?..... ",
"Im coming here in March to visit! I hope she smiles at me 🙃",
"Sick Tenac reference bruh!",
"If you don't get the reference it's from a japanese anime. Google Durara. It's this spector creature.",
"I hate those guys too",
"Yep",
"Loved that show ",
"I came ",
"Obvious comment is obvious \n\nAlso, who gives a shit?",
"Still one of my most upvoted comments. Doing the Lord's work.",
"This guy farts",
"Knowing creep shot",
"Celty-san!",
"Has anyone in here really never see Durarara? Granted it’s a yellow helmet but damn. ",
"Who wants to see the bike?",
"That helmet probably gives her neck a good workout with wind resistance going over 70 mph.",
"what bike?",
"I ain’t hating it- that shit is awesome - that’s Top Gear godammit",
"Sometimes it can go forwards and in another orifice.",
"this post is right up your alley, according to username ",
"It took me a while to notice the ears to be honest. ",
"I wish they will, so they wont kill themselves/others because of dumb cunt parents who neglect to teach their kids.",
"Blake Belladonna?",
"They always get the helmet color wrong...",
"Now this is the kind of repost I absolutely love to see. ",
"Why can I get a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt but this is okay? Legit question",
"🤯",
"and the video? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)",
"[We're talking about motorcycle riders in general right?](https://i.imgur.com/80lB39z.png)",
"I know this is answering for this given situation of a full body suit. But what about regular leather top and bottom that isn't tied together? ",
"Wish I could see what she looked like without the helmet.",
"For his Country, by the sound of it !",
"Gorgeous.\n\nShe's got great lines too.",
"Officer meow meow the loose cannon?",
"I don't have a full leather body suit, I was referring to a set of leathers. I probably could have made that clearer. ",
"He’s **Fartriotic**! ",
"My friend who was in the Danish military for about a year(fairly normal duration for training and such) got this scissors and a med kit attached to his bag at all times. \n\nThe scissors is damn sturdy, but it sucked cutting paper up when I tried. ",
"Right. Keanu Reeves or Tom Hanks and we're good.",
"MeOw!",
"r/whoosh",
"...aaaaand now I have a leather fetish. ",
"I'm pretty sure all the other times she's been posted to r/pics someone manages to dig out a video of her on the bike too",
"Because being strapped TO a motorcycle would be more dangerous than not being attached to it? She's wearing protective gear from head to foot.",
"Are people intentionally missing the reference or what. That is the best celti cosplay iv seen in a while. ",
"That there ain't leather. You can see right through it.",
"completely different type of vehicle. you're safer not being strapped to the bike whereas the opposite is true in a car.",
"False. ",
"Queen's the one on the motorcycle.",
"The photo was taken in my city, I know the place :D",
"the sub linked stands for \"Upvoted Not Because Girl, But Because It Is Very Cool; However, I Do Concede That I Initially Clicked Because Girl\". ",
"At least the Harleys typically handle like a car. OP forgot about dem ninjas though!\n\n~>select the half wheeled vehicle that can go FOUR TIMES the speed of the average auto on the road.\n\n~>Hit a small stone in the road leftover from last week's construction\n\n~>vehicle crumples into an office-sized paperweight\n\n~>be catapulted into the next county",
"I haven't seen the new season yet. I should.",
"Dwight?",
"Sup",
"Fuckin love celty ",
"There’s a bike?",
"[Here you go](https://orig00.deviantart.net/708f/f/2015/294/c/3/inktober_d21_fanart_celtysturluson_durara_by_holyengine-d9duy7g.jpg).",
"Ok..really? Guy asking, does that happen?",
"It bakes in the flavor",
"The only thing she’s wearing that’s protective is the helmet. The costume isn’t going to do a damn thing to prevent gravel rash, let alone protect against any kind of impact. \n\nSource: nearly took my leg off by using it as a buffer between my gear box and a car bumper while riding on a Bullet. Hit the road shoulder-first in full armour and the only damage was my leg. And the other guy’s bumper. That sodding Bullet just smiled and asked why it was being tickled. ",
"Or that people can do whatever the hell they want",
"I know that. But she is dressed just like Panther in black. Trust me, Makoto is best girl. She’s on my phone’s background. ",
"Girls don't fart...",
"Why he is taking that picture ;)",
"Knowing what?",
"I've heard this referred to as \"the traveller\". ",
"I just downvoted myself because my comment makes me look like a conceited asshole. \n\nI had just woken up and was grouchy. Leaving the comment in place as a reminder to myself to not be an arse. \n\nDownvote at will ",
"`\\>` will make > without it looking\n\n>like this",
"Thanks! Now I know why I see so many people who don't know it's the day... I certainly didn't.",
"You wanted to give me a mustache ride?",
"i think we watched that movie in biology",
"Oh yes.",
"That...is stupid.",
"That's why the call it a bubble butt.",
"r/anime",
"what does she know?",
"Wouldn’t the gas evenly blend across the suit encompass the inside of suit, creating a secondary “shield” of fart gas.",
"Bears, beats, Battlestar Galactica.",
"Ah, gotcha. To me it's more of a Celty look though. Easier to imagine a helmet change of color than the whole suit.",
"Sauce? A friend wants to know. ",
"I once found it while browsing the internet and saved [it for later](https://gfycat.com/ThunderousBossyAfricanparadiseflycatcher). ",
"Beets, you ignorant slut.",
"You're talking about Gattaca right? I watched that in my freshman year of biology in high school. Good movie!",
"TraumaShears®️",
"[Sounds like quality legislation.](https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--PFwUenNg--/t_Preview/b_rgb:191919,c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1491070780/production/designs/1375079_1.jpg)",
"That's a pretty good sauce",
"First season was best imo.",
"Maybe you'd like to meat me outside?",
"Thats how you get a queef, women fart into their vagina.",
"Eager. And flexible.",
"If it’s real leather it would do a world of good but I doubt it is ",
"Word is, kangaroo hide is best. That’s just thin crud and you still need padding to take some of the energy out of the impact with the road anyway. ",
"Thanks for that clarification, but this is the Internet. We can Google what a Ninja is, especially with the context of an image of the seemingly attractive woman in a leather suit on a motorcycle. We cannot, however, Google the magnificent humor owned by /u/A_Booger_In_The_Hand. ",
"Really seals in the flavor ",
"Sure. Because all traffic accidents involve the guilty party only.",
"I'd say more like a barge than a car.",
"They're just being funny... most gear vents just fine, unless they're wearing a repurposed BDSM suit. Even full-body track suits have vents. ",
"I need to wife that shit up now",
"What motorbike?",
"Helpful. Thanks 😒",
"https://www.google.pl/maps/@51.1124129,17.0180404,3a,59.8y,15.4h,101.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siG3RWz7tLik4nbKapIDzBg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=pl",
"Sometimes I do. Then again, sometimes I don't.",
"Pound that pussy til it hurts",
"Imitation is a form of flattery",
"Did you get your tickets?",
"r/enlightenedbirdmen/ leaking again?",
"Harley's don't handle like a car",
"Yes. ",
"Yeah I'm pretty sure that's because you're supposed to be able to cut seat belts with them. I keep one in my sports bag in my med kit. They're great. People didn't believe me about the penny thing.\n",
"Your google-fu is lacking, you need special training!\n\nThis is Wrocław, at least you got street right. \n[HERE](https://www.google.pl/maps/@51.1124129,17.0180404,3a,75y,27.89h,90.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siG3RWz7tLik4nbKapIDzBg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=pl)",
"Isnt she the dullahan from durarara",
"Yes. ",
"[Celty?](https://www.google.com/search?q=durarara+celty&client=firefox-b-1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiOsuTxp-rYAhUI3FMKHW5aDxoQ_AUICigB&biw=1469&bih=1417)",
"Yeah. During Durarara 2 the show began to feel samey. ",
"Usually escapes when taking off the pants, could be 20mins later haha",
"I found another Album of her: \n https://imgur.com/gallery/JAGKc",
"Dammit, he gets results!",
"Aww look at those cheeks",
"Yes.",
"Goddamn she's fine! ",
"You get me. You really get me.",
"I suspect that this isn't actually Celty. If you look real close you can see that she has an actual head under her helmet.",
"I wonder if this is an intentional Durarara! cosplay",
"More like Kawaisaki amirite?",
"[holy shit](https://i.imgur.com/R390EId.jpg)",
"I fight crime all day in a rubber suit. Really seals in the flavor!",
"I seriously do not understand the down votes? Wtf reddit?",
"I mean you could ride around town in it just fine... Don't think I'd want to drag knee on a track in it though :/",
"rabbit smile ",
"Yup, I have another pair that I keep instead of a dive knife to free myself if I get snagged on something, they can cut through a ton of stuff",
"Reminds me of Anna Kendrick from the movie Mr. Right.",
"Saving me from erectile dysfunction. ",
"\\^_^",
"Yeah, they're not really made for paper. Trauma shears are more for cutting through cloth and leather, and the cut doesn't need to be perfectly straight. Without getting mine and looking at them, I want to say they have a little bit of a serrated edge, so that any movement of the blades catches fresh edges and just rips through everything. They're pretty cheap, so if you manage to use them to the point they're mostly dull, you just buy knew ones. Thick, heavy-duty craft scissors are more like opposing razor blades. If you need absolute precision when cutting out a pattern, those will make a cleaner cut, until they get dull... But they're straight blades, so you can just sharpen them again. It would be a little annoying to have to sharpen your shears after every call/shift.",
"Well what is it? ",
"That's a great username",
"Thank you! That’s what I was going for. Great little skit. ",
"How does wearing shorts and a T-shirt make it less safe to anyone except the rider?",
"So apparently anything can be a fetish for me.",
"Uhm what the fuck no cows fart all the time and they’re always in leather ",
".. in leather..",
"So glad I'm not the only one who thought this",
"that's the first time someone said that",
"Now you have my permission to cry.",
"I have a pair for work and a pair to use in the kitchen. They're great for cutting up meat if you're not worried about appearance. ",
"Eugene?",
"Repoooooost!",
"Certainly increases insurance rates for everyone ",
"Holy shit she's awesome (and her helmet too!)",
"Can't we just do that in hear?",
"K",
"Probably the same as farting in a bathing suit. It goes up your suit and comes out of your upper back.",
"And this is why I need to move to my homeland. ",
"Not necessarily... you can get air just trapped in there too. I know how to do it voluntarily. ",
"She's hot until I see her handle a rifle.",
"I know that's not true",
"Meow! Err, I mean, Mjał! ",
"You mean Mjał? ",
"I wouldn't mind being that seat for a minute",
"Eveeybody wants prosthetic foreheads on their real heads.",
"Said no guy ever.",
"Because the bike is what we want to see....",
"And read that double helix book",
"I’m not surprised",
"i need that in my life",
"They move forward and backward and can turn left and right, and they both have engines. how much more like a car can you get? wheels, and engine make a car, just like bipedal, and featherless make a man",
"psst. he didn't reply to the person in the picture. ",
"Something something booger hook on bang switch ",
"Giggity giggity. All right!",
"Sophomore year. I thought that was just my cool teacher!",
"Speak for yourself. I want a rock to wind a piece of string around. ",
"Had to finish it anyway. I'd say worth it, not great, just good enough.",
"Ever heard the term \"floating an air biscuit\"?",
"Just askin...do you have a fart fetish?",
"Celty is my anime crush",
"No?",
"Ahhh reddit the bastion for reasonable logical disscusions. Ask a genuine question, get down voted. lol",
"Looks finger licking good! ",
" Yeah I feel like Bio teachers are usually pretty cool, at least in my experience. Mine was named Brick and on his wall he had a pinned up T-shirt of Trogdor the Burninator haha",
"But is it really for farts? ",
"Just means more organ transplants for everyone else. ",
"Have a nice time melting inside that shit",
"Fap fap",
"Beets by Dre",
"While your honesty is appreciated... dude really?",
"Celty?",
"True, but I think just the shape of it, as well as some basic observation of recoil in media involving guns, should make it obvious. If on the gun there is a long part at the back, at shoulder level, with a shoulder shaped groove, why would it make sense to hold the gun sideways so that it's above your shoulder?\n\nI live in England where we have no physical exposure to guns, and I can't imagine anyone using it in such an unintuitive way.",
"Behold Plato's motorcyclist",
"It seems nobody else on Reddit understood the historical reference lol. upvote for being the standout ",
"https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-durarara-celty-sUFQp2kJUq3Zu",
"And rides.",
"Your Google-Fu is strong, but it can't beat Bing Kune Do. No wait. I lost. I have shamed my ancestors.",
" Most gear have vents on it for airflow. However motorcycle leathers often zip together so if you stack it is less likely to ride up and give you road rash.",
"Like fighting crime in a rubber suit.",
"Yea. Except the yellow helmet",
"Looks like a Kawasaki z1000.",
"Jokes on you most bikes don't have a reverse gear. ",
"Nah, I'm pretty sure she's cosplaying a character from Durararara. ",
"To be fair, if you fire a gun like that you loose an eye courtesy of the scope.",
"Yeah but if you've seen most people drive, you could say the same about cars",
"Nananananananananananana badman",
"It's a 750. ",
"Asking the real questions 😂",
"Dress for the crash, not for the ride. ",
"impressive. ",
"I don't understand, what does this \"knowing smile\" signify",
"I could have gone my whole life without knowing this.",
"Is that why there's Cheekless chaps?",
"Unrelated; like the name",
"OP's a karma whore and needed a quick title.",
"girls don't fart",
"Harvey Dent! Can we trust him?",
"I could only imagine the friction burns if you came off. ",
"Spoiler, all women fart into their vaginas sometimes 😏",
"I see you got your head back Celty.",
"Yup",
"Lmao mother fucking OSHA safety inspectors out in full force today",
"„I advise strategically expelling the flatus“ \n\nhilarious ",
"Name checks out",
"Its a photoshoot and a prop gun, trigger discipline need not apply in this situation, the only people actually capable of shooting anything are the photographers.",
"I recommend finishing it. The way things turn out is a mix of expected and unexpected, which is the standard the show kept setting for me throughout. You think you have an idea of what's going on, but NOPE, you're only half right. That consistency is one of the things I liked about the series. Of course, that's just like, my opinion, man.",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QABKnH3GUoI",
"Is this how women can go all day without farting? Because they can transfer it into a bonus reserve tank until they're alone?",
"I wonder if she gets any..... cat calls....",
"you can also fix this problem by having a fart hole.",
"But if it's a guy in the picture then it isn't?",
"nnnice",
"This is kinky af",
"That’s actually impressive.",
"Mungus.",
"intelligent design debunked with one example checkmate creationists",
"Illuminati: *Don't you fucking move*",
"yikes dude",
"It honestly looks insane to hold it like that. I'm wondering if she's holding it like that because she's not strong enough to hold it the proper way, or if the photographer just didn't have the courage/heart to tell her.",
"Who cares about the bike?\n",
"This is the real explanation of what the photo is, still totally weird title.",
"That makes sense.\n\nI have a poultry shears meant to cut through bones of a whole chicken/duck/turkey/etc. and honestly if you pulled it apart, it would function well at cutting up meats if used like a knife.",
"There's a bike? Hadn't noticed. ",
"Celti the dullahan?",
"Bride material.",
"If she drops that bike she's fucked, no way can she pick that up.",
"I'm calling ballshit, we all know women don't fart ",
"So apparently anything can be found [here](https://www.",
"Begone T H O T 😤😤",
"This is why they make backless chaps...",
"I move that she test this by leaving the jacket front unzipped. ",
"Bravo! Nice pun, for a barrel dweller.",
"let's visit r/furry_irl and find out!",
"Nope, let’s not, and let’s not say we did either, because we didn’t, and we won’t. This chick is furry action enough for me. ",
"Is *that* how you contract illegal burns?",
"can we do the menopaws joke again?",
"angry feminists who think sexual feelings should be banned",
"You're welcome broski",
"Reminds me of the headless rider named Celtly in Durarara (spelling), though the Helmut would need to be yellow ",
"\n>You can also mitigate the issue by [...] \n \nI feel confident that, based on this alone, you're likely in systems analysis, engineering, IT/Infosec, or the military. ",
"that is a pretty black kitty ",
"I actually laughed lol good comment",
"it is, she's a model.",
"Knot a chance!",
"2 wheels is a lot different than 4. Handling is what you said, not what its components are. ",
"Wait... what are you doing?!",
"Apparently they do and hide it in their vag",
"It usually comes out your neck. But it's damn near impossible to fart on a motorcycle. The science behind this is unknown.",
"And a plucked chicken is a lot different than a man",
"Hot dam!",
"Years ago I had a female roommate who we told it was fine if she farted. Like people fart whatever.\n\nHuge mistake. Smelliest farts ever. I'm totally on the shame people for their farts so they try to hold them in train now.",
"MICHEAL!",
"No, you incel.\n\nA creep shot is a creep shot. Man, woman or child.",
"Couldn't agree more",
"Oh r... MICHAEL!",
"Walking dead reference ",
"Ah",
"<3",
"at worst you get a black eye",
"No, is a metaphor for weed (it was surprisingly one of the auto-suggest reddit usernames they have for new accounts) ",
"Still--- she will be better off than the those who ride in shorts, T-shirt, and no helmet like they do around me."
] | 453 |
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Knowing smile....
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/r/pics/comments/7ry1x8/nominee_for_best_sign_at_dallas_womens_march/
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[
"OI BRUV\n\nWHAT IF EVERYTIME YOU SENT OUT A TWEET, THEY TOOK YOUR MUM OF LIFE SUPPORT? PWAAHH THAT'LL RIGHT KNACKER YOUR MIND MATE. ",
" This sign had been shown weekly at every march around the US for the past year. ",
"right",
"I wouldn't want to live in many of the episodes but they are all fun to watch ",
"It looks like this post is about US Politics. Various methods of filtering out content relating to US Politics can be found [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/wiki/v2/resources/filter/politics).\n\n*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/pics) if you have any questions or concerns.*",
"Fifteen million merits ",
"Black Mirror! Again? I've seen this sign last year.",
"The prequel to idiocracy",
"Agreed, plot twist. It was about the womens march. ",
"You're getting down voted because politics is a very partisan thing at the moment in America.\n\nIt's unfortunate, but because there's a context where your comment could be construed as against them, in that you could be lying, they automatically assume that is the case. Where as if you were displaying agreement with their side, they would assume you were honest. In effect you're being hit by a stereotype stick. You can see this happen on any political sub especially. Or at least that's something I've noticed.",
"I really didnt like that one, seemed more like a bad thriller movie. ",
"That made me laugh so loud I’m worried i woke the neighbors up",
"OII YEAH NAH WHAT IF THEY USED ROBOT DOGS TO DELIVER YA PIZZA THAT’D BE RIGHT OFF MATE"
] | 13 |
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Nominee for best sign at Dallas Women's March
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/r/pics/comments/7ry41m/gardens_by_the_bay_singapore/
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[
"Whoa those things look like those land masses in BOTW!",
"They're even more impressive at night!",
"There’s an elevated walkway allowing you to walk from one tree to another. Very cool place!",
"No, that’s Kashyyyk.",
"*for a price. Cheap skate me was happy to enjoy it from the ground ",
"Was just there for new years, so many great things to see there\n",
"I figured I made it to Singapore, might as do it. I also rode the giant Ferris wheel."
] | 7 |
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Gardens by the Bay, Singapore
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/r/pics/comments/7ry5dh/resupply_mission/
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[
"*Psssht*\n\nResupply 9 launching in \n\n5\n\n4\n\n3\n\n2\n\n1\n\n#launch",
"THIS PICTURE IS TAKEN FROM INSTAGRAM USER @SMALLSTEPSAREGIANTLEAPS. REDDIT CRUCIFIED HIM LAST WEEK FOR “MONETIZING” HIS KID. NO ONE SHOULD ENJOY THIS PHOTO!",
"This is such a Kubrick shot. ",
"Link?",
"Did they crucify him? I mean... I immediately thought of him when seeing this photo. What's his reddit name, since ~~I assume now~~ *of course* it's not o.p...? \n\nEdit: wtf o.p. is a karma whore robot... you should know these things. ",
"I think people get angry when someone finds a clever way of offsetting the outrageous cost of raising a child. It insults their intelligence or something. ",
"[Yea! Right!?....](https://media.giphy.com/media/7sJ6dFiS4ldNm/giphy.gif)",
"STOP PROMOTING YOUR SHIT",
"Just curious, how is he making money from these photos? I saw the water picture but must have missed the crucifixion",
"Cool picture.",
"I didn't know that The Stig had children.",
"is this the guy who takes a photo of his kid wearing this space suit everywhere?",
"No cheese poofs on the moon. I repeat. No cheese on the moon!",
"I swear to Jesus this is inside my local Target.",
"Some say...........",
"All we know for sure is, he's called The Sprog!",
"My god. It's full of chocolate stars",
"I'd be amazed if it isn't.",
"This is so much awesomeness!",
"This is fantastic. I took my son out before Halloween in his costume, he had so much fun!",
"I think its cool, Plus we don't know conditions surrounding his kid. This might be a way to help the kid interact in the real world.\n",
"[Here is our guide on how to deal with shitposts](http://gfycat.com/LiquidComfortableHorsemouse)\n\n*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/pics) if you have any questions or concerns.*",
"**lunch**\n\nFTFY",
"There were a bunch\n\n[this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q4i5t/comment/dsmi9gr?st=JCP7J70A&sh=c6317067) \n\n[and this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q4i5t/comment/dsmqw38?st=JCP7KZ9T&sh=4c2c37cb) \n\n[also this one ](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q4i5t/comment/dsmivta?st=JCP7M5ZV&sh=11d7331d) \n\n[and another](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q4i5t/comment/dsml8un?st=JCP7N9OK&sh=cad1f3c0) ",
"What does ftfy stand for?",
"Get a job you unemployed child-exploiter.",
"Or the dad thinks that space is cool.",
"I can't believe he does that just for the Instagram views. Actually I can, people are scum",
"Plot twist, dad is Neil DeGrasse Tyson",
"This is by that other guy, he's not a bad artist but I wonder if he pays for upvotes. ",
"Hey tbf Red Bull is expensive, it’s like $3 for a small can",
"« Open the fridge, Dad. »",
"Space Kid is still going, ever after camp camp.",
"This is kind of adorable",
"My God, it's full of car..ts.",
"I mean who else does this",
"I dunno wtf is going on in this picture, but it's a-feckin'-dorable.",
"Looks like a cool project... Upboat",
"Hal, open the Freezer Bay doors.\n\nI'm sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can't do that",
"“Dad why can’t I wear a baseball hat like the other kids?”\n\n“Shhhh I’m trying to get everyone to leave the grocery store”",
"I need that helmet for my kid haha",
"Hey I upvoted every one of those already",
"Not this guy again",
"K this is the 2nd time I've seen a post about a kid in an astronaut suit and feel like nobody ever mentions how it's identical to that movie Wonder that just came out.",
"Isn't that costume from the National Space Museum?",
"My kid was an astronaut for Halloween last year and he would definitely do something like this. It was really hard to get him out of his costume. Now he'll randomly wear his astronaut and fireman costumes around the house when he wants. ",
"You know your child is autistic when...",
"only 2800 karmas? You should give him a sign that say \"Fuck Trump\" and collect 31k+ points. Or even better, give your kid a severed head of Trump and everybody will praise you.",
"Well I enjoy it. His kid is in a spacesuit, that he probably wears all the time, and he took a picture. Where's the crime? Stop being such a cynic. Not for us, but for yourself. It's not healthy.",
"When did astroneer add supermarkets?",
"Awesome photography dude. Only seen two so far but for some reason they resonate with me. ",
"I get the impression people here haven’t raised kids. If they get into a super hero phase at 3-4 years old you either buy multiple costumes or have a stinky kid. \nI miss those days with my little Superman so much. ",
"Fixed That For You.",
"The start of a Daft Punk video.\n",
"Will I dream Dave?",
"r/fakealbumcovers",
"> people are scum\n\nWhat?.. ",
"The childhood re-enactment was the best part of E! True Hollywood Story’s Daft Punk episode. ",
"He's a photographer, and they published a book with many of the pics of his son wearing the astronaut suit in different locations.\n\nSupposedly it started as a way to get his 4yo to be brave for a Dr appointment, and kind of grew into a thing. Kid gets to travel and see lots of cool places, Dad & Mom publish a book.\n\nThey live in Columbus OH, and I believe that pic was taken in one of the Columbu area Target stores.\n\nCheck @smallstepsaregiantleaps on Instagram",
"He probably feeds that kid with the money he makes from monetization",
"This looks like a screenshot from Wonder",
"I’m sure a lot of parents unwittingly take pictures of their kids in one-point perspective.",
"mission has been completed",
"I'm pretty sure that if I were 4 years old again and had access to even something closely resembling a spacesuit you would never actually get me back out of the thing until I outgrew it. \n",
"I did some checking around and for whatever reason, the original thread of the boy in the space suit at the aquarium is totally missing from Reddit.\n\nAnyway.\n\nWhat was established was that this was some kind of professionally crafted Reddit promotion. All the upvoted comments were in support of OP. All the non-supportive comments, the real comments that express the normal level of skepticism that Reddit is known for, are immediately piled upon.\n\nAgain, nothing wrong with OP doing what he wants with his kid. It's just a little weird to do what you want with your kid and monetize it via social media. It's [Balloon Boy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balloon_boy_hoax) 2.0. Certainly not judging. In this day and age, we're all chasing various strategies to generate income streams and this just happens to be one of them.\n\nSo ... this post is an experiment to see how the professional Reddit promotion team behind these posts react to my neutral, non-judgemental post. If the OP (or the social media team) has pure intentions, they can explain:\n\n* Why his child must wear a space suit in public ... specific disease?\n* What his purpose in the photo-documentation ... awareness for specific diseases, what?\n* Why all the suspicious karma blasting for people who are asking genuine questions?\n\nWe're willing to hear the story. Just be honest with us.\n\nEdit - Using the word 'totally' too much",
"Oh. Well thx!",
"Plot twist: kid is an extraterrestrial. ",
"Where did the spaceman outfit come from? I'd love to get one for my son and nephew. ",
"Just stop",
"My god, it's full of chicken and stars.",
"Oh hey, it's that guy who's exploiting his kid for money. ",
"Yup. ",
"I don't know, but this was taken by a pro. The framing, colors and overall quality isn't some rando taking a shot with their phone.",
"r/fakealbumcovers",
"Interstellar jr.",
"Made my smile!! Cutest thing ever. ",
"This feels like a rip off of Wonder.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_(Palacio_novel)\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_(film)",
"Fuck you. ",
"There's /r/accidentalwesanderson. I hope there's an /r/accidentalStanleykubrick",
"There is! It’s r/accidentalkubrick",
"Why isn't the camera reflection showing in the visor?",
"No, OP is a douchebag reposter.",
"Did anyone notice his cool stormtrooper sneakers?",
"Some camera phones are incredible these days and TARGET did everything else you see here. It doesn’t take a miracle to snap something in the dead center of the frame.",
"Kids are expensive to raise. If you can get the little fuckers to contribute, **why not?**",
"this isnt a camera phone",
"Parenting done right !!!",
"Well.. Samsung did.",
">how is he making money from these photos?",
"Open the freezer isle doors, HAL.",
">What's his reddit name\n\nHe deleted his account.",
"I don't know about that. The photo wasn't taken in poor lighting, so there wouldn't be noise either way, it's been heavily compressed for online use, so we can't determine the original depth of quality.\n\nThe only thing that's apparent to me is the artist's use of post processing to drop the blacks, drop the highlights and (maybe) whites, and increase the contrast significantly. I see no reason why it couldn't have been a relatively new phone.",
"As the parent of a little girl who has worn a Unicorn costume to the grocery store. I approve.",
"That's a thing?! Whoa",
"This could be my friend's kid. His hero is Harrison Schmitt. The last man who walked on the moon. ",
"username checks out.",
"Do you live in Columbus Ohio? If so then it likely is. The aquarium shot was taken at the Columbus zoo. ",
"Nope. Guess not.",
"THATS TERRIBLE! IS THAT FATHER TRYING TO PROVIDE FOR HIS CHILD WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY RUINING THE SANCTITY OF THIS VIRGIN COMMUNITY BY INDIRECTLY PROFITING OFF OUR PUBLICITY?! THIS IS NOT WHAT REDDIT IS ABOUT, AT ALL!! FUCK HIS PROFITEERING, FIRE UP THE DOWNVOTBOTS!! SOMEBODY GET ME A PITCH FORK AND MY SIGN... WAIT.... NVM! I FOUND MY SIGN: \n\n Need money for space vacations - 3HcEB6bi4TFPdvk31Pwz77DwAzfAZz2fMn\n\n^^^^^^/s",
"Everything’s a thing!"
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Resupply mission
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/r/pics/comments/7ry5v2/1936_bugatti_type_57sc_atlantic_supercharged/
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[
"Background and more pics:\n\nhttp://www.dailydriverproject.com/beauty-defined-the-1936-bugatti-type-57sc-atlantic/",
"Oh god that's so beautiful. I wonder how it drives though. ",
"30's tech and almost sitting on the axle, so I bet the rear springs are quite stiff. I'd be okay with that :)",
"Good point! Plus it's so long.. I couldn't imagine driving that in a congested downtown of any big city. But I still want to try ;)",
"Looks like a car Ace and Gary would drive...",
"Two lane mountain road! Let's go! ",
"Just don't let Hammond anywhere near it.",
" my dream car ",
"[That's quite something.](https://giphy.com/gifs/FE2nQ6r9msuic)",
"and one of the ugliest",
"Ambiguously gay duo",
"Lol noob that’s the Z-Type from gta",
"[Watch it in motion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZNr9C7zkw8)",
"excellent",
"Hmm if it's so valuable maybe I should download it.",
"You can't do that kind of thing around here, brother.",
"http://i.imgur.com/tnUQnhv.jpg",
"Banter Alert!",
"Ralph Lauren owns one that I saw in person at a museum exhibit. Truly sex on wheels. Someone in the US is making a copy. Sadly it's in fiberglass instead of sheet metal. ",
"That would be perfect for having Stephen Wright on CICGC *ahem* *ahem* ",
"Aww there's no engine pics :(",
"turn that frown upside down...",
"):"
] | 23 |
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1936 Bugatti Type 57SC Atlantic, supercharged straight 8, one of the most valuable cars in existence.
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/r/pics/comments/7ry7rq/perfectly_preserved_blue_whale_heart/
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[
"thats huge",
"Just WOW",
"Holy shit that's enormous... I guess it makes sense that it's big, but still... Damn.",
"You could crawl around in a whale's veins like playground tubes!",
"Big if true.",
"We always said Sarah had a big heart. RIP.",
"Look at those fucking ventricles. Think of how much blood gets pumped through that shit.",
"It looks like plastic, that makes me doubt if it's real, but assuming it's real: that amazes me, it's so big, that's awesome",
"whale heart *sculpture",
"i doubt it",
"Here's the source:\n\nhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4524460/Preserved-600-lb-blue-whale-heart-1-000-years.html\n\n...and yes, that's a real, preserved heart, not a model.",
"No, its a preserved heart.",
"The Royal Ontario Museum had a blue whale heart (probably this same one) and the whale skeleton on display. It was cool",
"I read this article a little while ago (I can't find it for the life of me), but it was about this experiment to see just how big a whale's veins can get. So, the scientists sent a man into the whale's veins to see if he could swim in them. Unfortunately, while the man was able to swim, he wasn't able to breath, and eventually drowned... They're saying he died in vein.",
"Oddly beautiful ",
"I'm not screaming on the inside... *you're* screaming on the inside.",
"why does this scare the fuck out of me",
"Take your upvote and leave.",
"This may be a stupid question but, are their blood cells bigger than ours? Or do whales simply have more blood?",
"Take your down vote and leave you silly goose!",
"Banana for scale? ",
"Omg. How many penises did this whale have...\n\nOh wait.. heart. Not eh... hm.",
"Their cells are the same size, they just have more of them.",
"Woah, thanks!",
"This is actually a whale's scrotum. Notice the barnacles on the exterior. ",
"I think that's just whatever they preserve it with. All the stuff at the bodies exhibit looked similar. ",
"You have been subscribed to whale penis facts! \n\n> An erect blue whale penis is 12 inches (30 cm) in diameter and **ten feet in length**.\n\n> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_whale_penis",
"And be crushed to death in his pumping heart. Good times. ",
"Usually a wax polymer. This was something perfected in the late 1800's, and while much much larger in scale, it is still well within reason. Amazing nonetheless.",
"Source?",
"Introductory Biology class.",
"Not true. Endured (and passed) university biology class myself. Not entirely proficient in large mammal biology however.",
"They have a fiber glass one of these for kids to do just that at Te Papa Museum in Wellington, NZ.",
"It's roughly the size of a whale's fist ",
"I don't think it can be reused",
"Get out! :D",
"I thought it was both fists balled together. \n\nEDIT: I guess it's different since it's a fish. ",
"I think I've had this dream before... "
] | 39 |
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Perfectly preserved blue whale heart
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/r/pics/comments/7ry89n/hong_kong_tijuana_a_look_of_disappointment/
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[
"What?",
"Everyone including the waiter is disappointed.",
"It’s a “gentlemen’s club” in Tijuana. You aren’t supposed to take pics but I saw something shiny.",
"Anybody else curious what said \"shiny\" object was? Lol",
"Hey man..... it was insane",
"I’m genuinely confused ",
"This guy probably has a wife ",
"O. Now i get it. Thanks I’m dumb. "
] | 8 |
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Hong Kong Tijuana - A look of disappointment
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/r/pics/comments/7ry8dh/portuguese_seagull/
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[
"He doesn't look Portuguese.",
"😂 what is \"he's\" nationality then?",
"He looks Greek to me.",
"Maybe you are right..."
] | 4 |
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Portuguese seagull
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/r/pics/comments/7ry8qs/george_bush_presenting_the_dalai_lama_with_a/
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[
"\"I have no use for this but thank you anyways.\"",
"wrong subreddit this belongs in /r/funny ",
"I'm much happier with him being nice and out of office. Trump hasn't done anything yet that can't be fixed. Bush cost us thousands of American lives (tens of thousands if you count the physically and mentally wounded) and trillions of American dollars fighting two wars. One of which was waged under false pretenses.",
"Nice is as nice does. Dubya was far from nice. ",
"awesome sketch",
"It's a lot better than I could have done.",
"Technically, he understands he has no use for anything worldly... That's why he's the lama.",
"He's not a terrible painter, but it's striking to me that he doesn't *seem* to notice that it's not high-quality art. Many people can paint as well as him but they'd be too self-conscious to display it. Perhaps that's presidential material: you think you do a great job. ",
"Perhaps it's a thoughtful gift showing that a President spent a considerable amount of time thinking of you.",
"This is a marvelous example of a Bush from his post Au Bain period. ",
"How can you tell that from this photo? You can’t. It’s not in an ornate frame on display either. ",
"Right... but it just not a great painting. It's interesting to me that George doesn't seem to notice that. Like, I'd be embarrassed if I did that painting. Not only would it reflect my lack of skill, but it would reflect my lack of awareness if I were to show it off. ",
"Heartwarming...what’s going on with the hands though? ",
"Fun fact: both G.W Bush and the Dalai Lama were born on the 6th of July, which also happens to be my birthday too :) ",
"You have no idea what the dude is noticing. Get off your high horse, you sound like a pompous ass.",
"Perhaps he lacks the knowledge to know he's not the best painter. Either way though, he's passionate about it, probably enjoys it a great deal and he's way better than I am. ",
"He knows. He paints because he enjoys it and because it helps him express the things he finds to be meaningful. He did a while book where he painted veterans and donated the proceeds to charity. Say what you will about Bush, but the individual stories of veterans deeply affected him. ",
"Why do you say he knows? (And why did you mention veterans?) ",
"If you look at their hands you can see that in reality the Dalai Lama is trading some Tibetan kush for that GWB original.",
"So he painted a portrait as a gift and he shouldn't show his work that he appears to be proud of because he isn't a high quality painter? WTF I guess I should throw away my daughter's art until she becomes renowned for her prowess",
"Right: he might know where his abilities rank in the art world, but he's still proud enough to show it off. Is that fair? ",
"How can I tell what from that photo? And why did you mention framing?",
"He paints because he enjoys it - he shows it off because people and the media are interested in it. And selling it generates a lot of money for charity or awareness toward certain issues. Say what you will, an ex American president spending the time to paint a picture of the Dali Lama and presenting it to him as a gift is a very strong political statement. No one would be interested in the same picture painted by any one of us because we're just not as important. \n\nIt's the person that makes the painting important in this case, not the skill. ",
"> So he painted a portrait as a gift and he shouldn't show his work that he appears to be proud of because he isn't a high quality painter?\n\nI did not say that. I said it is interesting that he is so proud of his work & I proposed that that his lack of self-consciousness might be a trait common among presidents. For your daughter's sake, please don't be so quick to imagine villains where they don't exist. ",
"He knows, all kinds of people paint because they enjoy it. It's all of us blabbering about it that make it important. Every time this gets posted everyone upvotes it like crazy but if I posted myself making the same painting no one would care. ",
"Not terrible ",
"Of course. ",
"it still looks like the South Park version of the Dalai Lama",
"> but it would reflect my lack of awareness\n\nYour posts are doing that. \n\n",
"Well, emperor Kusco was the opposite and he was a llama so...",
"What's a good gift for the Dalai Lama?\n\nYou can word it 'he's still proud enough to show it off', but it doesn't really seem like he's showing it off. Why don't you word it 'he doesn't take himself too seriously and keep it to himself'?",
"So Bush should hide it away because it's not a museum quality portrait to you? He just painted a painting and wanted to show it to the subject when he met them, I really doubt he cares what you or anyone else thinks of its quality. That's not really a lack of self-consciousness, just a lack of giving a damn what others think of it, which comes naturally with old age, and not just in ex-presidents.",
"Take a quick trip to Deviant Art and you'll see plenty of artists with poorer skills than him showing off their art to the world. I think it's pretty brave, I'd never be able to show my work like that.",
"that's when [they go to the cocaine basement and get entertained by the twins.](https://youtu.be/ajsiPZvJy0E?t=143)\n\n(side note: probably the *darkest* unspoken joke in R&M)",
"Hey Lama, hey! How bout a little something for the effort, you know?",
"“Veeery good, George! This is going right on the fridge!”",
"> So Bush should hide it away because it's not a museum quality portrait to you?\n\nNo, I didn't say that. I said it's interesting that he doesn't seem to have what I'd consider a normal level of embarrassment. ",
"> Why don't you word it 'he doesn't take himself too seriously and keep it to himself'?\n\nProbably because that's poor grammar & I don't know what it means, for one thing. edit: Ok, I understand what you meant now. He doesn't keep it to himself. Yes, he doesn't keep it to himself. ",
"He doesn't keep it to himself because he doesn't take himself too seriously.",
"Why does he wear glasses? \n\ncheckmate buddhists",
"That may be, & I appreciate your feedback.",
"jesus christ",
"Maybe that's what he based it on.",
"Plenty of people would say he's not serious enough (in light of the Iraq War, for one). ",
"I think W seems like a really good-hearted genuine person that just should never ever have been president",
"I'm talking about giving a piece of art (that's not that great) as a gift can be sincere and is not a sign of pompousness or a lack of self-awareness.",
"Dude please stop you're making a fool of yourself ",
"Start an endless war and rack up a million + body count and then maybe your technique will improve.",
"And to think, while he was in office, Bushitler was evil and stupid, now, he's an OK guy!",
"... to see? There’s a difference between not needed stuff and not needing to walk into walls. ",
"OMG, is GW going senile?",
"I wouldn't say his art is so bad it's embarrassing, it's just not a photorealistic museum piece that a master painter would paint and is more what a regular person would paint. \n\nIf he's selling his art and the proceeds go to charity, I don't think he's too worried about the quality of his work as people will buy anything that was made by an ex-president and he knows the donation will rise based on that. \n\nAlso Bush never struck me as a guy who cared what others were thinking about him as he was made fun of constantly for stumbling over his words and all of the other embarrassing things he did during his presidency and he took it all in stride without complaint for the most part. Now maybe in private he was going on tirades about the way he was portrayed or something, but he never really showed that outwardly.",
"Yes, it can be sincere. He's notorious for lacking intelligence though, right? ",
"Before Trump people really hated on W. Now people think he was an effing saint.",
"Based on your comment streak here, you seem to be notorious for the same thing.",
"No. He's clumsy and not the most refined speaker but you can't find an educated person who would claim he's unintelligent.\n\nThat still has nothing to do with what we're talking about.",
"I believe most people think he was a saint in comparison but not in general. Though the whole iraq/afghanistan invasion thing is kind of hard to gloss over in that regard.",
"Emphasis on the \"effing\"",
"\"Gee thanks Dad!\"",
"I'm no fan of George W, but he was in a really, really bad spot there.\n\nThink back to the aftermath of 9/11, and you/I/everyone wanted BLOOD. It was a lose/lose situation. Now, he was President, and maybe he should have had some restraint. However, honestly, I understand.\n\nIt was a difficult test for a President.",
"> you can't find an educated person who would claim he's unintelligent\n\nI had an American politics professor who characterized George as a roughneck from the oil field. That's a small anecdote, but I'd venture to guess that many educated people think George is stupid. ",
"It's the same face Ben makes when Leslie surprises him with the iron throne ",
"Notorious? That's a silly exaggeration. ",
"W. also gets the benefit of the doubt since it is hard to tell where his ideas ended and Cheney and Rove began. With how he has been since leaving office it paints a picture (hah) of a simple guy that had his advisors use him as a puppet for their own ends.\n\nStill wasn't a good president regardless.",
"Actually, he explicitly stated that he didn't care what historians wrote about him because he'd be dead by the time they wrote it. That is very telling. ",
"Roughneck does not mean stupid or unintelligent.\n\nAnd unless there's some stereotype about how only dumb people work on oil fields, I don't know what that story has to do with anything.",
"Everyone wanted to bomb a random country?",
"Wait what? \n\nSorry, I tried to look it up myself, but a cursory google search was not enough lol ",
"Afghanistan was understandable. People were upset about 911 and wanted to see action.\n\nIraq was a mistake. If we remove Iraq and it's repercussions from W's time as president, he wasn't that bad.\n\nI doubt any other person in W's position would have chosen not to invade Afghanistan.",
">Trump hasn't done anything yet that can't be fixed.\n\nOmg. You're literally Hitler. LITERALLY.",
"> I don't know what that story has to do with anything\n\nOk.",
"lol you can't quote half of a sentence and just say 'ok'",
"Are you from the US? Did you live through 9/11?\n\nIf so, then you have a short memory.",
"lol like totally",
"Everyone is over the top but a lot of people... A LOT of people wanted someone to be fucked up in revenge for it. I listened recently to some of the record of The Howard Stern show (think it was) that was on air when 9/11 actually was happening. At least one caller phoned up wanting to \"Bomb the X\" about it. Can't remember what he said as he did get cut off fast because of what he said but yeah. ",
"dead",
"Afghanistan also had a LOT more support/UN etc. Dunno how many people remember the Taliban destroying those giant ancient monuments in Afghanistan pre invasion too. ",
"No and yes. It was a question.",
"it's just all a joke in the show rick and morty. That's the secret Truman Cocaine Lounge underneath the white house, and they had two mind controlled slave girls standing by awaiting commands. If you slow it down you can catch the name of the dumpsters before the moon landing sets.\n\n",
"Someone needs to take W to a tailor ",
"!remindme 166 days",
"I didn't realise there was that anger.",
"People were very, very upset.\n\nKilling over 5K people, and destroying two skyscrapers, as well as a large section of the Pentagon will do that to people.\n\nImagine it happening in your country tomorrow. I'm sure you'd understand people taking it as an act of war, and wanting vengeance. It's human nature.",
"yeah but could you have lied to the america public to get them jacked up for war better?",
"I am no way accounting for what happened after both wars and how fucked up our plans were (isis) I'm only looking at probable rationalizations for both wars. \n\nIt's either the most powerful country on earth has it's citizens revolt, or the largest country uses 2 countrys it's already had it's hands dirty with for 40 years as a scape goat.\n\nIraq had it coming since seniors days, and for all intents and purposes, junior was probably finishing what dad started. There is no arguing suddam was not one of the most evil people on earth at the time, and with as large of a military he had, gulf war round 2 was immanent.\n\nAfghanistan was fucked from the Russian/us proxy war. We were cleaning up (I never said we did it well) the shit show we created by aiding the wrong people to \"defeat\" russia. The spread of jihad into Africa was a real threat that we even fought In Somalia and neighboring countries quietly during both wars.\n\n",
"Jesus Christ! \n\nI love Rick and Morty, I just definitely did not get the reference there. Thank you for filling me in!!! ",
"He was dealt a supremely bad hand. As someone who has never NOT voted Democrat, I can say with confidence than any president that had to deal with 9/11, hurricane Katrina, and the recession wouldn’t have fared much better. ",
"I find Bush's paintings completely fascinating. The man was President, and however you may feel about his administration, the scrutiny that results from holding office is extreme. His entire life was framed to mean this thing or that thing, to the point that his ability to eat pretzels became national news. And to say nothing of his consumption of drugs.\n\nSo, at the end of his public career, he now paints portraits in his self-taught fashion. They're incredibly revealing. He was \"the decider\" after all. And his brushstrokes, the tonal nature of all of his painting, not just this one, demonstrates the clear, yet imprecise nature of his decision making.\n\nI love his painting because of the extreme nature of his self-awareness. I believe that as President he was kept in the dark to a great extent by the intelligence apparatus his father built. But the events of 9/11 demand exposure. I'm sure there was a great deal he would have liked to know about what happened. There's so much we'll never know. He should have known those things. It would be unbecoming for him to come out and say precisely what he did or did not know before and after that day. So instead he paints for us. He shows us everything he is or was or could have been in those brief moments that he is alone with his art. These works will remain as much a part of his legacy as the \"talk\" and \"history\" that will identify his Presidency: but that's not him, the man. This is. ",
"You should really just go back to /r/iamverysmart you come across as extremely pretentious and I promise you no one is impressed.",
"I think I just like him outside of politics. ",
"It was a joke mate",
"I remember how Reddit looked at George Bush before he bashed Trump. Dont think we forget kids, because we didn't.",
"Oh yeah we as a country just shrugged off the largest terrorist attack ever on American soil. Grow up.",
"I get that line of thinking with Afghanistan but Iraq?",
"The whole condoning of torture thing does kind of goes against that though",
"I don't mean this in a condescending way at all, but what exactly did you think would be the backlash of something like that? Humans' desire to match an eye for an eye, especially when there's a reason to have an \"us vs them\" attitude, is very powerful and pretty consistent.",
"The country that the US needed to go after was Saudi Arabia. Going after them would have been costly diplomacy wise for Middle Eastern relations. The administration went after Iraq to finish what should have happened back in 1992, but the US pulled out too early. It was all a very shameful time where cooler heads did not prevail. So many innocent civilians lost their lives, homes, and way of life. War is worse than hell. ",
"using that level of sarcasm then telling someone to grow up feels really jarring to read. ",
"Sadam's regime needed to go, but obviously destabilising the region wasn't good either",
"Nope, not buying it. Absolutely not. Invading a _random_ country just because some _international_ terrorist assholes blew up buildings? That's fucking insane, no matter how you look at it. It's the reason the world lost its positive view of the USA.\n\n You basically branded yourself as a lynchmob state.",
"No good-hearted person could [mock](http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1999-08-12/news/9908120344_1_carlson-george-w-bush) someone he decided to have executed.\n\n>Mr. Carlson reports asking Mr. Bush whether he met with any people who came to Texas to protest the execution of the murderer Karla Faye Tucker. Mr. Bush said no, adding: \"I watched [Larry King's] interview with [Tucker], though. He asked her real difficult questions, like `What would you say to Governor Bush?' \" Mr. Carlson asked, \"What was her answer?\" and writes:\n\n>\" \\`Please,' Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, `don't kill me.' \"",
"i think he’s a good guy, much in contrast to Trump, but was not fit for presidency. ",
"Just under 3k died, not over 5k",
"Thousands died that day, Americans wanted someone to pay for it. The Saudis should have been the place to pay and not Iraq unfortunately.",
"Wow you must be a really mature guy. You're all big n stuff. Tell me more adult things.",
"Not a saint, but a simpleton and a patsy. ",
"The US hasn't been attacked at home very often. And when it did happen it was on a small scale. We don't have the experience that other countries have of being attacked directly. Everybody overreacted. Combine that with some good ol' American machismo, and the result is pretty toxic.\n\nWithin the US, mosques were being vandalized and muslims harassed. The general sentiment where I grew up was that the entire Middle East needed to be turned into a pane of glass. It was disgusting.",
"Oh yeah, sarcasm is totally jarring.. grow up.",
"You wanted blood? Well boys, you accidentally missed country and invaded someone else, who is not Saudi Arabia.",
"Uncle Rush!",
"huh I thought it was a boy and a girl\n\nAlso I didn't get the joke about McKinley and all the female skeletons",
"Grade A douche",
"He’s become such a kind, simple man",
"That’s actually pretty good",
"I mean realistically the last time the US had been attacked was Pearl Harbour. So yeah. It was a crazy time (though I am British so it was from a different perspective) ",
"Stealing Iraqis oil. No brainer. Causing the creation of isis, and destabilizing the entire Middle East and making the United States an irrelevant laughing stock around the world: priceless.",
"He asked a question you fucking nutter quit crying victim",
"❤️",
"He gets an A for effort, but I figured he'd be getting at least slightly better at painting by this point.",
"Yes. Yes.\n\nAnd no, I honestly didn't want \"blood\" or War or anything.\n\nIt was some terrorists, and we invaded a country that had nothing to do with them and falsified evidence to do so.\n\nI don't really understand it myself. Britain gets bombers from the IRA. You don't see them going to Ireland and bombing the shit out of it, do you? ",
"Um, did it? Families of a million dead people might well disagree.",
"That's actually kind of adorable.",
"https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfnz32eOpS4",
"> They attacked us\n\nNo they didn't. Bin Laden and his terrorists attacked us while Afghanistan was largely controlled by the Taliban, who gave safe haven to Bin Laden before 9/11. The US requested that the Taliban shut down al-Qaeda bases in Afghanistan, let the US inspect them, and extradite Bin Laden, but the Taliban would only extradite Bin Laden to a Muslim country to stand trial.\n\nThat's what started the war. The US wanted Bin Laden and invaded a country to do it. It's kind of like the US invading England to get Julian Assange, although of course that would be much worse because we like England and the whole Ecuadorian Embassy thing makes it a lot more complicated.",
"We were protecting Saudi",
"to be fair, that someone murdered 2 people with a pickaxe ",
"Presidents really need to step up there suit game...",
"When something like this happens I'm usually just disappointed. Disappointed in humanity. That said, I haven't lost a loved one to this sort of thing so I imagine that could change things. However, while I understand how these things can make you angry I don't think it ever justifies being angry at a country and all its citizens. It's always a few extremists.",
"Accurate. ",
"The idea that the war in Afghanistan was unjust is utter bullshit.",
"Wow! In comparison to today, Bush doesn’t seem so bad does he. I remember really disliking this guy but now he don’t bother me that much ",
"Vengeance is a dangerous thing. I am sure people affected by wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will want vengeance now. It never stops.",
"all that told me was about how because McKinley was killed because they let others handle his security, they switched over to the Secret Service being the President's full defenders\n\n",
"I think shrugging it off would have been the more grown up thing to do.",
"A regime where the police can rape your daughter isn't one that should be allowed to continue",
"Families of hundreds of thousands of dead people very much agree that Hussein had to go. He brought tyranny to those who opposed him. Just because the United States made things even worse, does not mean that Hussein did not need to go.",
"I thought I was in r/photoshopbattles ",
"He may have had their gaffes like “strategery” but they are tiny in comparison with what Trump does.",
"It was literally just like when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. In fact, more people died in the twin towers attack than pearl harbor. This recruiting officer literally compares the two and says he saw recruitment numbers spike just the same as after pearl harbor was attacked. http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2011/09/fallout_911_military_recruitme.html\n\n\"Wheeler likened the recruiting surge immediately after 9/11 to those who flocked to recruiting stations after the 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor.\"",
"At least he didn't have weekly meetings to update his [Secret Kill List ](http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html)",
"These days, jokes about Bush being immature or ignorant make me sad. Sad.",
"Its like when Michael Scott painted a picture of Jim and Pam for their wedding present.",
"No, he was a piece of trash that lead us to multiple pointless wars under false pretenses to enrich his friends. Just because he's not trump doesn't mean W shouldn't be rotting in jail for war crimes.",
"Whao, this is a comparison to drumpf, you will ignore the torture that thousands of people were subjected to and the hundreds of thousands of needless deaths. Trump\nIs the worse, there is no comparison.",
"Yeah Karla Faye Tucker isn't exactly a martyr",
"Trump has put things into perspective.\n\nWe use to bitch about the president not wearing a flag lapel as if it was some unforgivable sin. Now look at us",
"I'm also sure all those dead people would agree with you that they all needed to die to stop the regime, except they can't cause they're dead. BUT HEY! Good thing someone else made that choice for them? Also when do we start invading all African and Middle Eastern countries that are under totaliaristic dictator regimes where that's totally a thing? \n\nOr we do just pick and choose which country we invade based on convenience factors?",
"Seriously, the man is still a war criminal regardless of how much you want to have a beer with him. ",
"You’re being down voted because you’re getting political on r/pics. It’s not that you’re totally wrong though...\nI personally miss the W",
"I can't see anything other than their hands. ",
"Was that worse than the rape of men and women at abu garab? ",
">Butwhataboutbutwhataboutbutwhatabout-\n\nDo you have any defense for this that doesn't revolve around faulty comparisons, non sequitors, and whataboutism?",
"See I knew your comment was written out of spite and I got shit for calling it out before you confirmed it. How about your tiny, irrelevant country gets it's biggest city attacked? How would you like that?",
"Same here!!\n\nJuly 6th Bros",
"Where do you draw the line on acceptable retaliation against a massive attack against civilians?",
"During the IRA's 25-year campaign in England, 115 deaths and 2,134 injuries were reported, from a total of almost 500 attacks.\n\nNot sure if that's a great comparison.\n\nAlso, if you weren't pissed off after 9/11, then I have to question some things, honestly. I can understand being against the war, but just chalking it up as \"Awh shucks! It was just one of those terrorist attacks....\" makes me a little confused.",
"Gunga, galunga",
"Right? It makes me sick to see this war criminal with the Dalai Lama. ",
"Ah, yes, George \"bomb the brown people\" Bush.",
"You're right. I was on a roll and just threw out a number without Googling.\n\nThe point still stands, but I was wrong on the number.",
"He's just trying to make the dalai lama and his loose flowing robes feel at home by wearing a parachute as pants",
"Defense for a Texan making a joke about the Court-ordered execution of a woman who admitted to killing two people with a pick-axe while robbing them?\n\n> Tucker proceeded to hit Thornton repeatedly with the pickaxe and then embedded the axe in her heart. Tucker would later tell people and testify that she experienced intense multiple orgasms with each blow of the pickaxe.\n\nI think a better line would have been to ask if she came when she went.",
"Hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed in a war based on falsified data. He is less bad than Trump would be with eight years of Bush's level of power, but he is still even worse for the world than Trump has been so far.",
"My only regret, is that I have but one upvote to give you.",
"The difference being is, WW2 was a War we should've already been involved in. Our allies were and we even sold to our allies enemies during that period. That was also an act of War by a country.\n\n9/11 was a Terrorist attack by a radical faction. Not a country. ",
"Oh he had do deal with 9/11 alright. DEAL WITH LETTING IT HAPPEN!",
"Revisionist history.\n\nNATO declared that Article 5 of the NATO agreement was satisfied on September 12, 2001.",
"I never thought you forgot kids.",
"From what I’ve seen/read, plans were already on the table to go into Iraq. W went along because it was a chance to get back at the guy who tried to kill his dad. Plus Cheney didn’t really give him a choice. After 9/11 they got their greenlight, but only after a detour to Afghanistan.",
"He's that lovable, gulible idiot that everybody has in their group of friends. I don't think Bush has slept as good in the past 8 years* as he does now. Poor guy had to be convinced he was going to go down as the stupidest president ever. I'm not saying rhe dude was without fault, but he at least had some kind of dignity.",
"Death can't exactly be weighed in my opinion. Killing is killing, be it 100 or 3000. \n\nI was 12 when 9/11 happened and 14 when we finally invaded Iraq. I had heard the Taliban was hiding there, but it felt really weird to invade an entire country to get an extremist group, even to a young kid like me. Then we kept not catching them.\n\nWe certainly killed hundreds of thousands of unrelated people though. ",
"I honestly belive Dick Cheney was the puppeteer in this whole debacle. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions however. ",
"Perhaps presidential material is having the confidence to accept your efforts for what they are and recognizing that a lesser talent does not diminish you as a person.",
"Ah yep. He alone is responsible. /s\n\nAmerica cried for blood. Politicians took advantage. This was not the act of a single man, nor a single party.",
"The Dalai Lama is so proud we have now elected 2 special needs presidents. ",
"It's pretty good for a world leader, but he's no Hitler:\n\nhttps://goo.gl/images/uuA9XE\n\nI meant in painting skills",
"Are you wanting an opinion here or is that rhetorical, because atrocities committed by the US military are obviously not part of the plan when removing a tyrant",
"Sadism, even when the violence itself is just, should be avoided, and Bush's later and more grotesque actions speak as to why. Sadism combined with a callous lack of care for human life led Tucker to kill, but the same kind of sadism which ran through her mind was put into force of law by Bush's use of torture and other war crimes during a war with no legitimate justification. Gazing into the abyss and all that, except orders of magnitude worse than the original.",
"Cool gwbush ",
"W has eff you money. He wears comfortable clothes. ",
"So dark sites sprung up by accident? *black not dark ",
"That dialogue only fits if it was Fidel Castro and Justin Trudeau.",
"That's a far piece nicer than the world was slinging at him during his presidency \n \nI wonder how people will remember Trump a few years down the road? \"What a silly rascal! I miss that guy!\" ",
"I get it, lots of people died, but the guy asked why Iraq and literally the reason was Sadam and the power he had over the region. I'm curious whether you think nothing should be done for people who live under oppressive rule... IMO North Korea should be sorted out as well. We know what's going on in there, and the concentration camps we turn a blind eye to",
"Stick to those individuals that are actually responsible and I have no problem with them being hung, drawn and quartered.",
"Even at the time most people understood that Bush himself was an affable fella but that his leadership was atrocious and he surrounded himself with maniac neocons. \n\nThe problem is that we know most things by contrast. Obama's oratory skills were seen as straight-up godly by comparing him to Bush's gaffs and flubs. When you put Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld against Trump/Biden/Flynn, the former almost seem quaint. ",
"I didn't say that war was the correct answer.\n\nI stated that it was extraordinarily emotionally charged after it happened. It was a tough situation for President Bush to be in. That's it.\n\nAlso, I agree that killing is killing, and is bad. But the fact that the number doesn't matter is a ridiculous statement. So, a guy who murders one guy is the same as the Holocaust? Um, no.",
"I saw a good description of Bush elsewhere: He was a mediocre president who should have been a lame-duck peacetime good-economy president that would have just been forgotten in history who had a generation-defining tragedy fall in his lap. ",
"It's still not anybody else's call to make. That's what sovereignty means. By your logic everyone would have to invade everyone else, because of something they dislike about the country. We should invade Saudi Arabia for how they treat women, India for how they treat rape victims, etc. It just doesn't work that way. What the US did was simply wrong on an international level.",
"\n>I personally miss the W\n\nAt least when W said stupid shit it was \"old man\" cuteness, not 8 year old terror child. \n",
"Yeah, he did a pretty bad job. He might seem happy go lucky and friendly and he probably is, but he also started a major conflict for very flimsy reasons. ",
"You gotta remember the disinformation about Iraq. People were *terrified* at that point, and the neocons suggesting that Saddam had uranium had everyone freaking out. Colin Powell's UN speech was harrowing. Even those who suspected it was bullshit realized that erring on the wrong side would be a bad idea. ",
"The country I reside in has had it's fair share of terror attacks, thank you. Not on the same scale, no, but not once did I think we should wipe out another country indiscriminately. How would you like it if a team of extremist Americans did some attack on foreign soil and then some foreign country comes and flattens your home town?\n\nI am on some list now, aren't I?",
"That is pretty cool.",
"No, I am specifically talking about targeted attacks against Civvies in a situation like this. \n\nSo you're saying of the IRA managed to crash a plain into London and killed a few thousand people, it'd fine for England to just go in and bomb the shit out of Ireland?\n\nIt made no sense. The people we were chasing were never there. ",
"That's not shrugging it off.",
"He just hasn't adapted with the times. Suits from his era looked similar: https://i.pinimg.com/736x/75/12/cd/7512cd3189d2d9572b2726164b843ab5--cat-people-white-houses.jpg",
"And then George said. Hey Lama! How bout a little something, you know, for the effort. ",
"Wow, never saw those before. ",
"Ah yes, going from notorious war criminal to mediocre painter. The Reverse Hitler.",
"Sovereignty only extends as far as your ability to protect it.",
"Jesus Christ, what's your fucking problem? \"tiny, irrelevant country\". Fuck, dude, you have exactly the attitude that makes people dislike the US: fucking imbecilic arrogance. Memo: You're not the greatest or best nation in the world. Not even close. And by the minute you're pretty much antagonizing EVERY other country in the world even more. Maybe YOU should wake up and stop being so god damn arrogant all the time. What happened to the Twin Towers was an atrocity...committed by an international terrorist organization, not even a rogue nation. Invading a foreign country is not \"revenge\", it's an act of war...and you did go at it alone, despite what NATO, the UN, everyone said. And WHAT did you accomplish!? NOTHING. Fucking pricks.",
"Right... and if North Korea kills thousands of Americans on American soil with an attack, we should just sit back and let them sort themself out. ",
"It's also understandable that we as individuals feel anger, but that is why we have governments...level-headed governments wich don't just take a random country to war because of a terrorist attack. And here's the thing: Terrorist attacks are still happening every week somewhere in the world. By the US' definition we would have WW3 right now, if everyone acted that way.",
"Together, we give 2",
"No, but shrugging it off is better than starting some random wars.",
"What you consider differences means very little to the average american. As far as the average American is concerned (which is backed by evidence) is that their country was just unprovokingly attacked causing massive death tolls. Act of War via a country, or via a person means fucking nothing if the end goal equals out to the exact same amount of carnage, and you defending against the notion that you specifically didn't want vengeance is silly, you know damn well how the rest of the country felt. Just look at the military recruitment numbers...",
"What Ivy League did you graduate from to say he's an idiot? Bush graduated after attending Yale and Harvard. ",
"Well, hello there. I thought I was the only one with this viewpoint.",
"And the calculated rehabilitation and revision of Dubya's legacy continues!",
"Why would Bush give a painting back to the man who painted it?",
"Good, because they didn't. Everyone always made it on every trip, unlike those fucking McCallisters. \"Uh gee, what could we possibly have forgotten _this time_?\"",
"He wasn't in a bad spot. He straight up lied to get us into the war for WMDs",
"On that vain. I am of the opinion that he may be one of the most important contemporary painters of our time. Contemporary art is often valued as a window into a complicated person or context, and bush is one of the most important and controversial people defining the 21st century. So to have his vulnerable, self aware tub selfie paintings floating around in a hundred years will offer invaluable insights into our times for art historians.",
"The power vacuum created by his ouster has been significantly more destabilizing than Sadam ever was. He was a ruthless tyrant but we took a bad situation and made it worse.",
"I didn't believe it was possible to miss the point so badly. Congratulations I guess. ",
"Let us all take a moment to think about the guy serving time in a country where prison rape is considered a normal part of the punishment. Among his crimes was bringing to the world the fascinating art of George Bush jr.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guccifer\n",
"It's the idea that a president constantly told us they had WMDs, when he knew that was a lie from the very start, that's what gets me. ",
"lol, its a person who literally says they werent in america during 9/11 and didnt know how the county reacted to it. but okay.",
"I'm a student of art history. Last semester I wrote a paper on the cultural destruction that has resulted from the GWoT, of which I am a veteran.\n\nSo it's really strange for me to see his art.\n\nThe history of art runs parallel with the history of state power. The high-modernist period, of which abstract expressionism and minimalism and all that cooky stuff that brought American art to the fore, and for the first time, is considered by some to be part of America's propaganda war against communism following World War II. But it was also the culmination of a centuries long process of democratization that was happening in western art. \n\nThe entire modern period identifies a move away systems of power. Art was no longer controlled by the Academy. And now anyone can be an artist. And the kind of art that can be created is limited only by the medium.\n\nWhen I look at Bush, all of that is inverted. He is state power. It's not really about the artworks themselves. It's just about his contention with portraiture. I don't think he has the subject of his works sit for his paintings. So he's either working from one photograph or many photographs and this is the result. A painting of someone of prominence and in his own hand, a hand manifesting state power because it is, and representing state power because of his the subjects he paints. It's all very meta, like nearly everything else we see being created today. But they're not \"good.\" \n\nThe \"masters,\" the great artists of any era, never arise from the elite class. And what we've seen in post-modernism is a merging of high and low culture (as well as many other characteristics). Bush identifies those extreme by being the embodiment of the apex of american society, even though his paintings reveal the lowest ability of the untrained artist; while at the same time it completely humanizes a former President who, at the time of his adminstration, was considered one of the worst Presidents in American history, and a violent and cruel and hateful man. How does that jive with his art though? How can it?\n\n(I was a bit all over the place there, I'm just spit-balling, but his stuff is really fun to think about.)",
"I'm not sure he ever really was president, I think he was mostly a figure head to his dad, Cheney, Rumsfield and the Republican establishment.",
"\"You did such a good job Georgie, this is going on the fridge!\"",
"I have to agree, I like the picture where he is leaning on Michelle Obama, it seems like there is genuine affection there. I can only imagine what Trump thinks or says about her. Or anyone who isn't white for that matter.",
"Are we going to see Dick Cheney topless on a horse in the next series of posts?",
"He’s talking about international perception, not reality. It’s easy to look back now and call out the bullshit. It was a bit more nebulous back then.",
"Buy a suit that fits you, man. You too, Bush!",
"It's retarded. The dude is a fucking war criminal.",
"How'd he know what he would be wearing?",
"Ah yes, the good-hearted genuine war criminal",
"That's a terrible example",
"What about, in comparison to today, the simpler days of having \"binders full of women\". That phrase was twisted so far out of proportion/context it's kind of embarrassing ",
"I'm off to search r/expectationsvreality to see if the Dahli has posted that already",
"No, we go attack a different country for another reason.",
"I totally agree.\n\nHis work completely demystifies the idea that Presidents and Kings and state power is something \"more than.\"\n\nThis guy is simply working with what he's got. I feel like his Presidency must have been the same. It's incredibly sobering for me to see his stuff.\n\nAlthough, it doesn't make me any less the critic of his administration.",
"Sometimes I wonder how things would have shaken out had we not gone to Iraq and let Saddam stay put. Would he have hung on until 2011 and then gotten Arab Spring'd? Would the Arab Spring even have happened? Would there have been a coup eventually? Would he have passed the reins onto one of his sadistic sons? What would the rest of the Middle East look like? ",
"Try as hard as some of you might, two wrongs still don't make a right. ",
"Except your reasoning makes no sense. By your admission NK should have been dealt with a long time ago, instead we placated them until they built nuclear weapons. America doesn't invade for humanitarian reasons, if we did we would be in war with half of Africa and the Middle East right now. Hell, the CIA is directly responsible for placing dictators just as bad as Sadam in power in a bunch of those countries. America only wars when it's leaders believe it's geopolitically advantageous to them.",
"Slap an Afro on Georgie and you have have a living and walking Bob Bush",
"Agreed. Bush Jr. may not have come across quite as polished as many other presidents but he could at least speak in complete sentences and never grabbed anyone by the pussy. ",
"There are police killings in US too (I'm not talking about bad calls or overacting, I'm talking about straight up abuse and murder that happens too) and so far the justice and police institutions treat is a normal thing. \n\nSuch violation of human rights obviously shouldn't be allowed to continue, so by your logic, we Europeans should invade the USA even if it is sovereign country and even if it will cause thousands of deaths.",
"I said that because the scale is way different on how it affects a country. If you're from a tiny unknown country you might not know what it's like to react as an entire populace to a horrible event. Don't quote \"revenge\" when I never said that. Also I don't give a fuck about nato or any of that shit because I wasn't talking about that in this conversation. Chill.",
"everyone HAS invaded everyone else because of something they dislike about a country..",
"> Iraq was a mistake.\n\nI think that is about as generous as you can describe it. More likely it was an intentional action fueled by war-profiteering, based on deliberate lies. Don't forget that the vast majority of Fox viewers at the time thought Sadaam Hussein was responsible for 9/11. This wasn't an accident.",
"Trump was also fairly tolerable when he wasn't president.",
"Wow that's an interesting made up situation. How the fuck would I know how I'd react? Quit shifting the goal posts. I know I certainly wouldn't shrug anything serious off like some pussy. I'll be the one to say terrorism is unacceptable.",
"Umm, okay that was much better than expected. Leads me to wonder how many original Hitlers are still around and are they worth lots of $$? Not for quality but for infamy. ",
"Saying that Hussein needed to be removed from his position of power due to the atrocities he committed does not mean I approved of the intervention by the United States. I explicitly mentioned they made things worse. You realize it's possible to have more than one possible solution to a problem, right? It's not like the US intervention method was the only way to remove Hussein from power. ",
"Some historians believe Hitler was anti-semetic because as a teenager he was rejected from the Academy of Fine Arts in Vienna. The admissions committee was mostly Jewish people.",
"And how and when exactly did Iraq kill thousands of Americans on American soil? \n\nAnd what exactly has North Korea to do with it?\n\nAnd what the hell are you generally rambling about?",
"Couldn't give a shit about the US and their embarrassment of a police service, the public has it in their power to change that, iraq never had a chance. You think a black lives matter equivalent would work under a regime? Your family would be executed in front of you",
"[Bush also had comparable grades to John Kerry while at Yale.](https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4684384) I remember the Democratic Marketing in 2004 tried to make Kerry out to be this great scholar running against a buffoonish frat boy. \n",
"This is brilliant. Hated the man as Commander in Chief, but wow, what I wouldn't give for 4 more years of Bush right now.",
"Yeah, kind of like Carter.",
"He meant it in a cunty way and I could smell it. His reply to my comment confirmed he didn't mean that reply earnestly.",
"Good hearted and genuine my ass. His biggest accomplishment was being born the son of George HW Bush. He was a shitty president and before that a shitty, arrogant, entitled, proudly ignorant asshole who grew up on the East Coast but developed a bullshit twang in his voice after he moved to Texas. His eight years in office were spent enriching his friends and robbing the rest of us of our civil liberties. His daddy's connections kept him out of Vietnam, but as soon as he became Commander In Chief he had no problem sending thousands of Americans overseas and into harms way. \n\nHe probably paints these pictures at night after he wakes up from nightmares featuring all the Iraqi children he killed.\n\nFuck him.",
"no idea, all regimes crumble at some point and then the void is filled by the next dictator",
"Absolutely, and I definitely agree with the sentiment.",
"Stop glamorizing a war criminal.",
"Dalai Lama: “Oh and way to start that war, you bitch ass muthafucka.”",
"Huh so they did the same stuff as isis. Not surprising honestly. As a teenager its interesting to me how all the things I didn't see are very close to what I've seen, as in taliban to is is or whatnot. I hope nobody else every has that perspective but I don't think the world's that good of a place.",
"Others think he was just a complete dick.",
"Well GWB is wearing his dads suit in this pic. ",
"Donald Trump presenting the Dalai Lama with a portrait of Donald Trump that he claims to have painted despite there being several sources of him commissioning the painting from another artist and the painting being signed by said artist. ",
"I mean, anyone could. Keep in mind, presidents don't have nearly the power people think they do. Technically they do, but they are heavily influenced. \n\nWhen your entire military staff, half your party, and most of your cabinet tell you to go to war, what do you do? You can say no, but suddenly you become a lame duck president for the rest of your term. \n\nNot saying he isn't partially to blame, but you aren't necessarily an evil person for signing a sheet of paper with people breathing down your neck. It is very easy to forget the gravity of the things you are allowing when all it is are numbers on a piece of paper.",
"Sorry, I must've missed that one. ",
"This is a great line. ",
"Fortunately he was able ram through another bullshit war based on false information his administration manufactured and pushed as legit. ",
"...Obama?",
"He certainly was not the least elegant man.",
"Am I the only one who thinks that picture looks like Voldemort in glasses?",
"He liked to keep it simple.",
"Potato potato. \n",
"Can't believe this guy thinks he can paint. Just look at this picture it looks like a child did it. When you compare it to the real Dalai Lama, you.... Oh, wow... I take it back. Good job George. ",
"To be fair, Obama did the same. Take that for what you will. Hypocrisy is everywhere.",
"Insightful ",
"I thought you guys were terrorizers ",
"I think you missed my point, but OK.",
"Honestly, Bush might like south park. I could see it.",
"there should be a Home Alone sequel set 30 years after the first one that is basically the family showing photos of all the vacations that Kevin fucked over.\n\n\"and this is the one where we almost got to go to Hong Kong!\"",
"Yeah, but didn't Hitler go to school for art? Bush studied history at Yale and got an MBA from Harvard. Not much art in there.",
"He was a fucking psychopath and people forgetting that now is a big part of how Trump came to power.",
"No, people on reddit (and out in the real world) called him Hitler while he was in office. It's only when a Republican is out of office that folks on the left get nostalgic about him.",
"Fuck yeah, Hitler!\n\nThat's what \"murica\" sounds like to me.",
"98-0 Authorization for Use of Military Force from the Senate, 420-1 in the House. People need to stop acting like Bush unilaterally started a war.",
"Trump hasn't either. Saying something != doing something. So far not even the accusations have been corroborated, never mind the random hot microphone comment.",
"Maybe I'm a bit of a jerk, but the family has no excuse for leaving the 9/10 year old at home while going on vacations. \"It's our child's fault\" doesn't work here :D.",
"Idk why I’ve never thought about this, but clearly the Dalai Lama has some learning to do. He is that old and he hasn’t even earned his arrow tattoos yet...",
"you either have talent for it or you dont, art school can only teach you so much",
"TBH there is a lot of history from that period that is less talked about now. For example pre 9/11 Iraq was constantly pushing a \"do we or don't we\" have WMDs, kicking UN inspectors out etc. \n\nwww.bbc.com/news/world-asia-31813681 From what I mentioned. \n\nIt has been a really interesting time to live through though, not overly for good reasons but still. I can remember flying pre 9/11 in the US and how different it was, going to visit the cockpit as a kid, being able to see inside the cockpit down the aisle. ",
"No. He failed the entrance exam to Vienna Fine Arts Academy.",
"No, people stop at a certain era in fashion all the time. Just look at school teachers most of the time.",
"it's certainly a great argument against having too many damn kids",
"I like that the Dalai Lama is making the same face as his painting",
"Trump is almost certainly the most repugnant person to be the American President, and he might prove to be the worst President when it is all said and done, but the willingness with which people are prepared to revise history to fit the narrative in their head is appalling. \n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War",
"I fucking hated Bush when he was in office but I think it was mostly because of his administration (Cheney, Rumsefeld, etc.). He himself, I've grown to believe, does not seem like a deplorable person. Deplorable president? Maybe.\n\nOn the other hand, administration or not, I hate every fiber of Trump's being.",
"Yeah, this reddit 'he was an okay guy!' circle jerk is both baffling and infuriating.",
"Well, it was a nice effort at moral relativism, but no, not convincing at all.",
"Lol, he was in office for less than a year when it happened, I think you people have unrealistic expectations for any mortal.",
"> Iraq was a mistake. If we remove Iraq and it's repercussions from W's time as president, he wasn't that bad. \n\nWhat the fuck?",
"Bush an elegant man ",
"Even the people who said they didn't support the war in Iraq (very few in Congress, President Obama because it was before he was in Congress) all said that the war in Afghanistan was justified. It's some weird and recent revisionist history that people are coming up with to say otherwise.",
"Two potatoes is not nearly enough.",
"That is some next level finger painting",
"Yeah, how dare he listen to the intelligence agencies of 3 different countries and then repeat what they said to him?!? He should have known better!",
"And an MBA from Harvard Business School, at that.",
"That's the problem with white savior syndrome, you are always going to think you know better... than even the people who are directly affected.\n\n\nYou can say \"Saddam needed to go\" til you are red in the face. If that helps you ignore that the aftermath of Saddam being gone was worse.\n\nThe thing with reality is that's very complex, and so are its problems. Which is why simplistic one line solutions could make things worse, rather than actually solve anything.\n\nRemoving Saddam without addressing the systemic issues, many of which the very powers playing \"liberator\" were at fault, solved nothing and made things worse. ",
"Now we complain about how a president eats pizza.",
"Way better than Trump's artwork:\n\nhttps://pagesix.com/2017/10/31/real-estate-mogul-plunked-down-16k-for-sketch-by-donald-trump/?utm_source=maropost&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=pagesixdaily&utm_content=20171101&mpweb=755-4934760-719189484",
"Saddam's chemical weapons are pretty damn good reasons. He had plenty of old chemical weapons hidden around the country. Not to mention all of the documentation found of the ingredient and equipment stockpiles he was hiding and waiting for UN sanctions to expire so he could go full chemical warfare on most likely Iran, but US forces in neighboring countries is a strong possibility too.",
"**Why have you summoned me!**",
"I thought that was three times.",
"Yeah, that totally makes it okay. Tell that to the tens of thousands of murdered innocent people. They sure will acknowledge your \"satisfaction\". But hey, some fucktards killed 5k of your innocent people. So it's only fair to kill 31.000 innocent people someplace else. And another 80.000 people you don't want to classify as \"civilians\" for some reason or another. That's how it works, right?\n\n You guys are full of shit.\n\n ",
"If you pay attention, you'll find that in 10 years or so you will be saying the same thing about Trump. In the media's eyes the next republican is always the worst one ever, and the last republican was a saint in comparison.\nSource: old enough to have seen the media do this over Reagan, Bush 1, bush 2, etc.",
"I spent like three hours doing the shading on the upper lip",
"So...he still needs the glasses?",
"So I got that going for me. Which is nice.",
"I like how he's making the same face as he is in the painting",
">a simpleton\n\nYou may want to take a closer look at this belief you hold. [here](https://keithhennessey.com/2013/04/24/smarter/) is an interesting article about it. \n\n",
"There aren't a lot of good ones. My point is just to say that the country of Afghanistan didn't attack anyone. Even the Taliban didn't attack the USA, they just wouldn't extradite on the terms that the USA wanted.",
"Wrong ~~lever~~ llama, Kronk!",
"Remember that, next election cycle.",
"You seem to lack the basic ability to put yourself in someone else's position.\n\nOf course terrorism is fucking unacceptable but I'm not sure starting the Iraq war was the most appropriate response. There would have been people in Iraq whose hometown would have been flattened because some Iraqis decided to fly into the twin towers even though they themselves didn't do anything wrong. How is that justice? It just ends up being a needless circle of violence (heard of ISIS much?) until we use our brains and limit our retaliation to those that are responsible.",
"The real question is... who would have to come along to make Trump seem like a saint??",
"As long as you're saying he's a bad painter and worse person, I'm with you.",
"I never thought I would miss Bush II...",
"Just a few more years until Trump is Reddit's lovable 'tard",
"I think he actually handled 9/11 very well, all things considered. It wasn't until Iraq that things went to hell. ",
"Well I mean, he only really invaded Iraq under false pretences, destabilising the Middle East, and contributing to the rise of terrorism and ISIS, as well as the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians. \n\nOh and apart from the trillion dollar tax cuts he gave the rich, the PATRIOT Act, No Child Left Behind, Partial Birth abortion ban, banning spending federal research money on stem cells, warrantless communication intercepts in the US, refusal to sign the Kyoto agreement, the complete lack of leadership during Hurricane Katrina, Guantanamo Bay, or the fact that years of rapid deregulation under Bush led to the subprime mortgage crisis, he is a saint!\n\nI mean look at that goofy smile! Obviously he's a great dude. ",
"That and Bush not being the brightest bulb and Dick Palpatine pulling the strings was just a bad combo.",
"I mean, I've been in the cockpit and got the little pilot badge. They still do that",
"Where did I imply moral relativism? I'm saying that revelling in cold-blooded violence like that usually tends to produce more violence.",
"You know shits gone south when bush starts to look like a saint. ",
"I think he only became president because of his dad and he thought it would be a great party just like Clinton. He always looked miserable in office and every photo of him since he just looks so much better. ",
"Right, but the fact that his name was really Richard Hitler isn't exactly common knowledge.",
"I like that W knows he sucks but still does it because he just likes it and loves giving them to people. Hey, remember that illegal war he started? lol",
"We had even started bombing Iraq due to information claiming the presence of WMDs in the mid 90s",
"Yeah it wasn't the right response... ",
"Actually he had some problems with English as well.",
"> the same kind of sadism which ran through her mind was put into force of law by Bush's use of torture\n\n**That** is where you asserted a moral relativism between Tucker and Bush.\n\nI hope you are just a kid, and parroting poorly understood concepts. It would really depress me if an adult had so little grasp of ethics and morality.",
"The previous Republican President/candidate is always the nice one that people should be more like. \n\nThe current one is always the spawn of satan, and the worst person to have ever lived.\n\nPeople compared Mitt Romney to Hitler. Really? ",
"Have you ever started a war under false pretenses? Than you did a lot better than Bush, in general.",
"Seems George W Bush and Adolf Hitler had something in common... both were almost talented enough to get into art school.",
"Not to mention it's dissimilarity with DJT's existing work: https://pagesix.com/2017/10/31/real-estate-mogul-plunked-down-16k-for-sketch-by-donald-trump/?utm_source=maropost&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=pagesixdaily&utm_content=20171101&mpweb=755-4934760-719189484",
"Not for Iraq. 296-133 in the House and 77-23 in the Senate. And that’s because they lied about Iraq having WMDs. ",
"I like this. I like how happy and proud he looks with all of his paintings. If he was never president and ran a “Painting and Wine” activity, I’d go to it because it sounds wholesome. ",
"I wouldn't say that trashing constitutional privacy rights via the patriot act was \"handling it well.\"",
"As an european may I ask why this guy is getting downvoted? Nothing he said is false, other than the assumption of how Trump would do, which is however a very plausible speculation.",
"I'm not saying that, and I wouldn't. It's reductive and pointless.\n\nMoreover, I'm not all that interested in a biographical approach to art history, and certainly not a Freudian approach. He was just one piece in the broader cultural matrix which allowed the GWoT to manifest. I know that complicates an already complex situation, but the world is and will, only get more complicated. Sorry.",
"That's actually quite good. No masterpiece, but still very decent.",
"[He's so warmhearted and cuddly cute!](https://youtu.be/ZbM6WbUw7Bs) /S",
"That's the same face that girl gave Napoleon Dynamite when he drew a picture of her as a way of asking her to prom. ",
"Thanks! I remembered only that art school was involved somehow.",
"Yeah, I have no doubt he's smarter than he seemed. I actually think that was a cultivated perception. ",
"The good old days ",
"I meant like one of my cats is simple",
"Yep the whole world was mostly on his side until they used it as an opportunity for an unrelated war. ",
"I dislike him a bit less now ",
"You understand? His administration lied to all of America about finding WMDs. He started a war under false pretenses. But \"you understand.\" This only happened 15 years ago and everyone has already forgotten; learn some fucking recent history, jesus christ.",
"He did sell hand painted postcards when he was homeless. I'm not sure how homeless he was, or how much he depended on the sale of these cards. But I have heard several authors say he was homeless for between 2-3 years.",
"Think this belongs in r/cringeanarchy",
"Fuck George Bush ",
"Most of them are at the Smithsonian and not available for public viewing",
"The less funny of the American war criminals after Obama ",
"plus, bush only murdered between 1 and 2 million people",
"What a lazy 'tard",
"Could be said of his presidency as well. ",
"I like Bush more now that he isn't the president. That being said, I'd exchange him for Trump in seconds.\n",
"He fucking invaded a country on false premises causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people.",
"GWB: After my horrifyingly corrupt presidency, my handlers told me to start painting to make people forget how much they hate me....Who the fuck are you again?",
"True but he may not have gotten that second term without said tragedy",
"Yeah how about we condemn all this shit and stop pretending that because a war criminal can paint they're nice.",
"Source? Not doubting just too lazy to Google",
"He was a horrible president with domestic policy as well how do people forget that",
"IT IS I WHO HE HAS SUMMONED!",
"Except he is one of the worst war criminals ever, who exploited National tragedy to restrict civil liberties and kill over a million Iraqi’s. Real good hearted.",
"Imagine finding an originsl Hitler piece at a garage sale ",
"Like this dude more and more",
"There was a shift in opinion towards Bush before Trump was even a candidate. Around when his paintings started getting attention and he did a bit of a late night tour that was very human. All it did was soften people on Bush and reinforce the \"Cheney is really pulling the strings\" narrative that was around even during Bush's reign.",
"Reddit typically leans anti-Trump. They don't know how to use down-votes properly",
"Very true. Obama had some charm to him. Bush just came off as an idiot who had no clue what he was doing.",
"Make sure to put that on the fridge so Bush doesn't get upset.",
"A better Original Hitler to link would have been the German Shepard painting.",
"I'd say it fits with his maturity level.\n\nI think Trump is hilarious and everything, but it's funny he draws (and often acts) like a toddler :P",
"This guy RISKS.",
"https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paintings_by_Adolf_Hitler",
"Doesn’t change the fact that trump is a stupid idiot. ",
"people saying Bush, Obama, or Trump are the worst presidents annoy the shit out of me. Without googling please tell me the policies of our 19th president? or our 8th? how about the religious beliefs and race opinions of our 21st president. The fact is Trump might be the worst or might be far from it. Just because its trendy to hate him, Obama or Bush doesn't make it historically accurate.\n(I'm not specifically saying you, just anyone who states that which is..well a TON of people.)",
"Well, for how much it taught him, his perspective is still off in too many places for this painting to be considered \"good\". The building on the right and the part showing under the left arch. That whole area by the arch just looks so weird.",
"Yeah! He reminded me (as a person) of Bill. Makes me wonder what would have happened if 9/11 didn't happen.",
"Wow, he's actually getting better at that.",
"Bush should be in prison.",
"Lol.",
"Nice to see someone using their art history degree! \n\nAlso nice to not have that end in \"tree fiddy.\"",
"I mean, yeah, if Julian Assange perpetrated the worst national tragedy in living memory.",
"#Silence!\n\n**You best know your place imposter.**",
"Yeah Fox does the same stuff with liberal presidents ",
"Crazy a toddler could beat a women in the presidential election. One who is apparently (according to Reddit) \"like hella stupid\" ",
"Yeah this revisionist bullshit is disturbing. Bush isn't a lovable doofus.",
"https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Ladin_Determined_To_Strike_in_US \nI'm not saying he orchestrated the event by any means but at the very least he had pre-emptive knowledge of it and did little to nothing to try and stop it. ",
"This is another very strange side effect of Trumps presidency! People remembering W fondly.\n\nNo fuckwit, he was a war mongering oil baron.",
"And hardly any Jews!",
"George has baggy pants and I don’t like it ",
"Lots of idiots out there with a bachelor's of science in economics, huh?",
"Thanks!",
"Media found a new republican to demonize ",
"I mean i dislike trump as much as the next guy but thats just a sketch",
"My God, these could be tracings! ",
">but Iraq?\n\nPeople think we didn't have the world's good will for Iraq but we had a lot of support for Iraq as well until we actually went in.\n\nHussein was dancing around going \"MAYBE WE HAVE WMD MAYBE WE DONT. NUNYA BUSINESS\" Not to mention just historically being a horrible human being and on-and-off enemy of US. \n\nand then we went in, and technically, it wasn't 100% clear they had it or not but when we didn't find any real WMDs, the world started portraying US to be like monsters especially since the economy started getting hit really bad.",
"America called it the coalition of the willing, the rest of the world called it America, Brittain and Australia.",
"So... He was literally worse than Hitler?",
"https://i.imgur.com/bAv27e9.gif",
"One of the first things Obama did was order the shutdown of Gitmo. Any president is going to have to make compromises, but to me Bush pushed the limits past where we can say he's a \"really good-hearted genuine person\"",
"He's actually getting quite good. Bush I mean.",
"And the only one who had pity on him was a Jewish man who gave him a coat. \n\nI think maybe he resented the help. \n\nSource if you need, Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. ",
"Even if they do, how does that stand up to NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, NYT, MSNBC, etc?",
"Even for a minimalistic sketch, which is a valid art style, that's still really, really shitty and low effort.\n\nEdit: here are some (mostly) [not shitty minimalist sketches](https://www.google.com/search?q=minimalist+architectural+sketch&client=ms-android-att-us&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiL8uqyhOrYAhVCOKwKHWHhC4cQ_AUIESgB&biw=360&bih=511&dpr=3) if you'd like to compare.",
"It's almost as if that card has been played since Ronald Reagan...",
"Is the Lama wearing leather shoes? I don't know why I noticed that. And forgive my naiveness but doesn't that run counter to Buddhism?",
"That is clearly the building at the back of the court yard. The perspective is fine. ",
"A painting he didn't even see until he unveiled it for the Dalai Lama.",
"You mean he partied at Yale and daddy bought him an MBA from Harvard. \n\nI have little doubt he's as dumb as his art.",
"Maybe there's a reason why majority media reports that way? Just a thought. ",
"The Patriot Act passed the house and senate 357 to 66 and 98 to 1 respectively, before it reached Bush.\n\nYou can't just pin that on the president, you have to take into account the whole atmosphere at the time. People were afraid and willing to do literally anything to prevent another 9/11.",
"In his defense, almost the entirety of congress signed off on the Patriot Act. Leads me to believe Gore or other people in his position would have done the same. Obama definitely would have given his track record with privacy rights and how he dealt with the snowden-NSA scandals.\n\n",
"A fool and his money...",
"Before we descend too far into blissful amnesia i'd like to point out that this man and his vice president are a major reason ISIS is now a thing.",
"Enough people (including me) wanted a giant dick to be elected instead of another wrinkly politician scum. If there's anything I hate more than lawyers, it's career politicians. Asshole rich people come 3rd, so he wins out on that.",
"> Smithsonian\n\nWhy are they in Smithsonian? Legally speaking, shouldn't they belong to Hitler's relatives?",
"So Trump is literally worse than hitler?",
"Bush's dad knew better than to take Sadam out during the first Iraq war. It was a Pandora's Box of violent tribalism that only existed in \"harmony\" under the brutal rule of Sadam. The outcome of our invasion in 2003 was very predictable. ",
"Afghanistan attacked no one. ",
"You’re assuming that Hitler’s relatives care to sue and that the U.S. respects international law. Both are false. ;)",
"So that's why I always think my suit looks shitty on me... It's definitely got the Bill Clinton thing going on a bit.",
"not a bad painting for a war criminal",
"I would still like to have a beer with him. ",
"I'm still an undergrad studying at a public university on the GI Bill. So at least I won't have any debt while I'm making coffee for all those important STEM professionals.",
"Fun fact: the Viennese Academy of Arts offered a place to study to Donald Trump. They said they don't want to make the same mistake twice.",
"We didn't attack the country of Afghanistan technically though",
"Google and find a tailor in your area and take your suits in and they'll hook it up and make you look sharp",
"Was he pleased with it ?",
"Also he has no relatives",
"Assuming Bush wasn’t the one that chopped down the towers. Sad you believe the Bush Crime Family lies. ",
"It's smug aura mocks me",
"W, my dude, you’re shrinking. You need a new suit. ",
"Their mostly governing body the Taliban did though by extension. ",
"Likable guy",
"For the uninformed, can you explain how you arrive at the conclusion that his painting reveals \"clear, yet imprecise nature of his decision making\"?",
"This could be an urban myth but I read somewhere that his entire family vowed to avoid reproduction so that the family line would die out in shame",
" \"Hitler is dead and so are all of his grandchildren! It belongs in a museum! \"",
"He had a sister and a brother. I think his nephew fought for the allies.",
" I really like George Bush the painter",
"lol by extension. That’s justification for a fucking Invasion?\n\nMental gymnastics ",
"Maybe. Hard to tell with that one. I know for sure I can't paint portraits. ",
"r/sadcringe",
"I was at the book store yesterday and saw \"41: Portraits of my Father\" or something like that from George W Bush. So maybe he has done art that ended up on his father's fridge. Or at least his wall. ",
"Why would paintings not be available for public viewing if they're owned by a museum? Are people not interested in them? Or are they owned privately and the owner isn't interested in showing them?",
"In general yes, but I must conceed that he is a better painter than me. Too bad he didn't stick with that skillset.",
"Little known fact: You can find many Hitler originals at Tommy Lahren yardsales.",
"He has no direct descendants, he has tons of relatives. ",
"Naw, from the week after 9/11 they were planning on invading Iraq. Bloodlust would have been quenched with the invasion of Afghanistan and death of Bin Laden. \n\n\nBut the Bush administration had a long standing plan to invade both Iraq and Iran. \n\n\nThe fact they didn't foresee a schism based civil war and/or growth of Al Qaeda cells there is just next level irresponsibility. Even for someone trying to alter the dynamic in the Mideast with a physical US presence.",
"\"Strategery\" was from an SNL skit. He never mispronounced that word. Plenty of others but not that one.",
"So, standard Trump?",
"George jr. is just a gangster irl",
"No, I wouldn't have tried. I said the painting was better than I could do. His presidency was still pretty awful.",
"The Smithsonian is not just a museum. It is dedicated to the preservation of learning and is part of the U.S. government. I think their was a decision not to display them publicly had to do with the trauma associated with Hitler as a historical figure.",
"As a reaction to the American government-supported meddling with the middle east...\n\nWhich by that logic, 9/11 was justified...\n\nEye for an eye and all that though...",
"My bad, I don’t remember all too much from his administration.",
"I remember the murdoch press as well as the bbc pushing the whole Iraq has WMDs. Their ballistic missiles, which could reach us in 30 minutes or less. As well as showing helpful diagrams showing the missile trajectory, and potential fallout. \n\nIf you are too young to remember, it is pretty much the exact same scaremongering as with NK in current times. \nsame shit ",
"Exactly my thought!",
"In the past, we've seen numerous politicians' careers sink due to a single comment. Hell, we saw Sarah Palin sink someone else's chance to be president that way.\n\nBut for whatever reason, Trump can say any stupid thing he wants and no one who supports him cares.",
"maybe a line or 2 of coke as well",
"Yes you did. Look at all the people here acting like W is lovable",
"There is a difference though. Hitler had a vision and at least started off working hard to achieve it. He was done in by his own ambition mostly, and is remembered for the cruelty he caused.\n\nBush was a moron, and acted moronic. He was mostly done in by his own moronicism, and is remembered for being a moron.",
"And it's not as expensive as people think. ",
"I think he means seeing the cockpit while in flight. I could be wrong though.",
"You have to anticipate trade offs \n\n\nDoes the destabilization of one corrupt admistration make it worth an invasion? If you knew the result was millions dead in the resulting war, the destruction and collapse of a neighboring government, suffering and famine that resulted, the terrorism that resulted in hundreds of random deaths in Europe etc? \n\n\nListen, the near permanent quasi-apartheid and segregation of blacks in America is unconscionable. But I'm not advocating for the downfall and destruction of the American government to facilitate getting 50 to 80 million people out of a permanent underclass. \n\n\nThere are more effective/humanitarian ways to dispel the net human suffering in a geographic area. ",
"Jesus no they really didn't. Most of the world felt terrible for the US on 9/11 but then stood aghast and pleaded it wouldn't go racing into an unwinnable war for revenge. Thousands of people protested against it. ",
"Nah man. It was was scarier. They claimed to have proof of mobile labs, remember? Plus there was the specter of Saddam funding Al Qaeda (disregarding all the reasons that made no sense). KJU is a maniac, sure, but he's not tied into Islamic terrorism. \n\nThe way they beat the war drums, if we didn't invade ASAP we were going to get nuked any day. I remember the slogan they kept using: \"We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.\"",
"He's definitely top-5 presidents I would like to have a beer with.\n\nJust bottom-5 (give or take) presidents. We're quickly approaching 20 years later and still dealing with his bullshit.",
"Of course he was, he's the Dalai Lama. He probably values the gesture more than the product ",
"He belongs in the Hague ",
"Out of curiosity, why is a giant dick better, do you expect him to do less harm? Not meant to be critical, I'm not a fan of either candidate either. ",
"They harbored the architects of the 9/11 attacks. People don’t hate him for Afghanistan, they hate him for Iraq. Fuck the taliban. They had it coming. ",
"Lol it’s a sketch. You’ll find any reason to hate trump. ",
"It’s not really comparable. Hussein’s regime killed 1000x more people than American police could ever hope to. ",
"That’s actually pretty good. \n\nNot hitler good, but good. ",
"Trump and John Adams are the two presidents I wouldn't want to have a beer with.",
"The worst",
"Hitler was a landscape kind of painter, Bush has him beat on self portraits.",
"Probably because Republicans just keep lowering the bar. ",
"That makes perfect sense, thank you for explaining it to me.",
"He never went to art school. he failed the entry exam.",
"Pepperidge Farms remembers when George Bush Jr. Was a laughing stock. In retrospect, he had the composure and grace of the Dalai Llama buy today's standards. ",
"The Taliban was protecting Al Qaeda. They were warned, the coalition was going after the terrorist organizations and the governments that protected them. This was all publicly stated. And don't act like the Taliban aren't terrorists themselves.",
"Fun fact, that cat was actually a deep undercover trained Russian spy.",
"Didn’t like his decisions but I can respect him as a person.",
">everyone wanted BLOOD\n\nYea....that's not true",
"The Iraq War is worse than anything Trump has done so far",
"https://i.imgur.com/I0lYhnh.jpg",
"“Fool me... you can’t get fooled again”",
"Yeah yeah yeah. Yet you never touched Saudi when strong evidence supports that they had a role. \n\n",
"Tell that to the Kurds. ",
"> the war for oil\n\nftfy",
"He was just a little bit upset about that, too.",
"What a great paint by numbers!",
"I'd love to read your GWoT paper.",
"Ahhhh same here whatttt",
"I'm pretty sure than anyone who wasn't 5 when W was president knows that he was a sack of shit, and that these front page human-interest posts about him are disgusting.",
">~~sale~~ sell",
"Hey cool, it's Karlskirche! (I think)",
"Absolutely. I'm not American, so I can't go deep on US history, but I agree with your sentiment.",
"lmao that’s exactly what i thought. HERRROO MR. BRUSH",
"Imagine if part of the British intelligence tried a strategy where they tried to stir up interest in Hitler's artwork to encourage a wholesome career change",
"Some of his paintings are pretty good. He did a book of portraits of army veterans, and gave the proceeds to charity.\n\n",
"I always questioned Bush's competency during his eight years in office and thought of him as being an idiot, but I never once thought of him as being an asshole. I can't say the same for Trump. He's unquestioningly a bloated orange prick who would make almost any alternative preferable.",
"It’s as if the world has the memory of a goldfish. Either that, or society has developed a habit of glorifying American war criminals. ",
"Lest never forget that George Dubya is the 2nd dumbest person in the world after Trump. I had a teacher cry in my class over George Dubya in Finland. This is in Finland.",
"Well, he did bomb his own trade centres to start the war on terrorism ... he's not far off. ",
"Did he draw that in Crayons?",
"There's a lot more where that came from. ",
"I prefer spiced potatoes",
"Yeah well the U.S. government has, sadly, not given me a say in the matter.",
"Does anyone else see a south park painting of him???",
"Nah he's still a piece of shit president but I could at least understand how people voted for him. But Trump. He insulted the military multiple times during the campaign and is the farthest thing from someone you can have a beer with so idk how republicans voted him through a primary. ",
"I'll always upvote an Always Sunny reference.",
"So true. I remember when W. was president and the Dems were trying to paint him as a racist etc. Same playbook they're using on Trump. People forget how bad the hate for W. was. I sincerely believe he either had to or was convinced he had to go to war to maintain the presidency. it was actually worse than it is against Trump. Though Trump stokes the fires a bit for fun i think, to try and illuminate that this is just what Dems do.",
"Also, they just have a lot of stuff. They have tons of stuff that is rotated through the museums because they physically don't have space to show it all. So when deciding what work to put out, Hitler is going to take a back seat to other more wholesome artists. ",
"Bill Clinton actually decided to not taken out Osama Bin Laden in 1998 when we already had the intel that he had a long term goal to attack USA. \n\n",
"Would just end up as a Nazi shrine.",
"...yes, actually. You think getting a degree preempts one from being an idiot?",
"\"Others would have made a colossal mistake so it's OK that he did\"",
"How the fuck are people glossing over this? The man was awful. ",
"You'd be surprised. ",
"It looks like the portrait is trying to speak like George Bush does",
"Now that he's not president I really like GWB. He is totally someone I could have a beer with, that's just not how I vote. ",
"The fuck you talking about. I thought it was a photograph at first glance, and you say it isn't \"good\" ?",
"But they're also incredibly important historic documents. I don't think it's obvious they should not be displayed. ",
"But not every time he spoke. ",
"If I'm not mistaken it passed Congress by a large enough margin that they could have overriden a presidential veto.\n\nVeto'ing the bill would have done nothing.",
"Even if you ignore the wars he still want on all the classic Republican lines of anti abortion, big on the war on drugs, tax cuts for the rich etc",
"The hijackers were Saudi. ",
"And as president, in a time when people are looking for leadership, he had a chance to come out and say, \"look, I know you're all scared, but our founding fathers put protections into place for a reason. We're going to get these guys, but destroying our rights isn't the way to do it.\"\n\nOr, alternatively, \"I will not sign off on this without a hard out of X weeks/months. No renewal option. This can only be a temporary measure to deal with this situation, not a change in our way of life. If we change our way of life, the enemy wins.\"\n\nInstead, we got what we got.",
"Backhanded insult, nice. Really hope you don’t think the U.S. should respect anything with the name “Hitler” attached. If we knew where his grave was we should be depositing piles of shit on it each and every year. It’s become so cool to hate the U.S. now that even Hitler gets a pass. ",
"Man, fuck this pile of shit war criminal.",
"No... I'd think it was a bad, lazy sketch no matter who made it. I never even said anything about Trump, just the art.",
">worst war criminals ever\n\nThis is a little silly. ",
"To be fair, he applied twice and they rejected him because he couldn’t paint people or figures well. They specifically told him his architectural sense was great and directed him towards being Austria’s Ted Mosby. He didn’t have a Lilly being an evil selfish manipulative bitch so he went a different route.",
"Yea, like when he threw the first pitch at the yankee game after 911. Walked out there like a boss and put one right in the strike zone from the top of the mound.\n\n[VIDEO](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjGcCI9ByWw)",
"I like to think George painted it. ",
"Murica!",
"How to be a bad citizen 101\n\nRight here folks.",
"His family didn’t do anything wrong. His nephew fought for the allies and earned a Purple Heart. Also, it’s not an insult. It’s a fact that The United States doesn’t respect international law. There is no value attached to that.",
"Well we know for a fact that they did possess wmd’s at some point, as I believe chemical attacks are defined as a weapon of mass destruction",
"Came across this article below. Depending on their views I feel bad for them. My sibling is a pos who abused me & is racist, )pretty much every bad label under the sun.) I take zero responsibility for his behaviour and would never want to be linked back to him. \n\nhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/1348850/Hitlers-lost-relatives-found-on-Long-Island-in-terror-of-identification.html\n\n",
"Thin skinned aren't you?",
"That’s assassins creed ",
"Ford too. So, they've dusted off this old trope for at least every GOP President since Nixon. They couldn't possibly call Nixon stupid, though, since he is widely regarded as one of the most intelligent presidents that we've ever had. And before that, it would have been sacrilegious to personally attack Eisenhower.",
"At first glance I thought it was a portrait of a Aang the last airbender ",
"His Presidency aside, Bush is such a fucking cool guy. I would love to meet the man, one of my old platoon buds has met him a number of times because Bush frequents wounded warrior functions a lot, the stories my friend tells me put Bush in a totally different light than the guy I absolutely hated when I was deployed during his Presidency.",
"I think there was a mix of Saudi, UAE, Egypt and Lebanon. Mostly Saudis, yes. No Iraqis or Afghanis on the plane though.",
"Oh bush bush bush",
"r/wholesomereddit",
"Cue the oh W is a good guy now I'd love a beer with him comments.\n\nBush was an Asshole, and he's hidden himself from the public eye. \nDoesn't mean he still want an asshole. Fuck that guy",
"At least it's not a weight loss progress pic.",
"This comment section feels like gaslighting. \n\nBush started a war of aggression that unleashed incredible misery and death in Iraq, which is directly responsible for turning Syria into an ongoing abattoir + causing the enormous refugee crisis. And on a more personal note, his warmongering was responsible for a friend getting so fucked up with PTSD that he swallowed his shotgun. \n\nHe supported and expanded **torture**. \n\nHis botching of Katrina and Rita put people I knew in body bags, and much of the coast still hasn't recovered.\n\nHe halted action on climate change and made denialism mainstream. The ultimate damage of that is incalculable.\n\nHis tax cuts were irresponsible and accelerated the concentration of wealth.\n\nWith the Patriot Act he damaged civil liberties, human rights, and privacy to an extent that after Obama's failure will almost certainly never be mended. \n\nHe wanted to change the Constitution to discriminate against gay people, and continually pushed his evangelical extremism from the White House.\n\nAlso, see '08 and the Great Recession.\n\nBut oh well, guess that's okay because \"he looks like someone I could have a beer with\" or \"his paintings are cute.\" \n\n\n",
"He has taken a lot of painting classes since his presidency. My sister works for the smithonian and met him at his gala. He's really good, this one doesn't quite do it justice.\n\nEdit: asked my sister about this. He painted a huge collection of world leaders, and this was his favorite. He painted it shortly after leaving office. She agreed it was not his best and got dramatically better over the years.",
"Hitler’s relatives don’t deserve shit.",
"There were 19 hijackers. 15 were from Saudi Arabia. \n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September_11_attacks",
"Maybe because 90% (or more) of the journalists there are democrats and donate to democratic politicians?",
"So that’s what he did with his oresidency",
"That's actually really good! I wish I could paint like that",
"That's pretty standard operating procedure for oppo party.\n",
"Who is the Dalai Lama? I know it’s the guy in the picture there, but who is he?",
"Unless they play ball with us on oil.",
"[You forgot Poland](https://youtu.be/mahTGNIk4q4?t=19s)",
"I realized the US needed to vent their anger by punching a wall, but that was a $2 trillion sheetrock repair. Maybe invading Iraq was a way to show a win because they had buildings to destroy, a leader to overthrow and no nukes...but it didn't hold. \n\nThe huge amount of money thrown at political shows like 9-11 and Katrina used inefficiently was followed by budget slashes in government offices years later that impacted more people.\n\n",
"Dont forget about Poland!",
"People don't remember, but the accusations of racism and other horrible things were worse against W. than they are against Trump. The left was in full ready to revolt mode. Then came 9-11, and things toned down a little bit because Dems didn't want to be seen as traitors. Then they started back up again and then we went to war in Iraq and the Dems toned it down. The only way for a non-Democrat to avoid horrible accusations is to be attacked or go to war.\n\n",
"Assuming any of them happened (especially the recession )",
"Looks like a south park character lol",
"Beat me to it!",
"people think this is guy did 9/11.",
"Obama ended torture on day 1.\n\nSorry, day 2\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_actions_by_Barack_Obama",
"Yeah, saying the attackers were Saudi is pretty fair given that breakdown but throwing out that a handful were from other Muslim countries just shows that it was more an al'Qaeda thing than a Princedom of Saudi Arabia thing, even if that's where they got their money. ",
"Painted with the blood of Iraqi children.",
"Yeah that's not just a full break, that's an Amen break.",
"That one's lot better than the other one I saw. Though the perspective is still a bit wonky in one or two places, he seemed to have some problems with that.",
"George Bush had a meeting scheduled for September 16, 2001 with Mexican president Vincente Fox and many other Hispanic leaders and was set to present a major push for a solution for the immigration crisis. His presidency of course would’ve been much different if not for September 11.",
"The GI Bill is great. And don't get me wrong, it's friendly ribbing. I think anyone getting any education at all is an awesome thing. Art history is just as valid a pursuit as any other. ",
"Suggests a link. Doesn't post it..",
"Hardly a sketch, more of a doodle ",
"Gonna throw the whole Afganistan thing on GW? We have been there since the 80s.",
"I can try. Just bare in mind that this is me talking and I'm far from an expert or scholar.\n\nWhen someone creates a work of art they completely expose their ability to represent reality through the use of whatever media. In Bush's case that is acrylic on canvas. He takes a brush, dips it in paint, and applies it to the canvas. Every thing we see in the work of art is intentional. This painting looks like Tenzin Gyatso, but not so much so that you don't understand it to be a representation of Bush's ability to recreate a likeness. For him to call it \"done\" and to show it to the world, says to me that he wanted it to look that way. \n\nBut how does it look? It looks well enough that we can read it as the Dali Lama, but not so much so we don't see a \"clear, yet imprecise\" process. He's not going through the trouble a blending the paint to the point that our eye has trouble reading the stages of his process and decision making.\n\nThis is a great photo to show the difference the man and his representation. Look at how the light catches his robes and face. Then look at the painting and you see it's blockier and simpler. Bush is using a limited palette. There's maybe 5 colors. Green, black, white, red, and yellow. He's only highlighting enough of His Holiness' features for us to get it, but not more.",
"Lots of people care more about actions and plenty of folks compared him to Hillary as saw him as the lesser of two evils. That helped them get over what he says. ",
"He could’ve vetoed it and it still would’ve passed. It had overwhelming support in Congress as well as public support.\n\nLike I said, people were afraid. They wanted action. To blame a president whose vote didn’t even matter for passing legislatation that, at the time, had overwhelming bipartisan support is ridiculous.",
"Says Bush, \"I couldn't help you with your country while prezidentin'. And I know you're supposed to be a man of peace, while I started 2 wars, and missed a warning an' all about an attack on my country, heh heh. So I brought you a painting I made in one of my PTSD classes. Say, did I tell you that story about a Georgian guy who almost made me believe in reincarnation ? \"",
"Little grasp of ethics and morality? Because I don't give warmongerers a pass for the destruction caused by their futile wars? The evidence was there from the start that Saddam didn't have WMD's anymore, but Bush fabricated proof, lied to the public about that proof, and then proceeded to carry out crimes against humanity during the ensuing war. You'd have to have \"little grasp of ethics and morality\" to support the perpetrators and enablers of the pointless slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians.",
"So many morons out there with degrees from Yale and Harvard, amirite? And of course your opinion is what everyone thinks.",
"Tibetan kush is my favourite",
"Also, the problem with the Iraq war was more how it was sold, than it actually being a bad war. Iraq supported terrorism, Saddam was a monster murdering his opposition and there were a lot of good reasons to overthrow him and invade Iraq.",
"That's pretty low man... he's a recovering alcoholic. ",
"It seems like the point of Art is to make us feel things. What better than a seemingly innocuous piece of decently made art that also happens to be made by the most iconic villain of modern times? ",
"Ha! Because of course it’s only 1 party doing that. ",
"might be the worst take I've ever seen on reddit.",
"From the smile on Bush he knows what he is capable of as an artist and he appears to be enjoying the slightly uncomfortable moment. \n\nI really don't like him as president that made the decision to invade Iraq, but in this photo he looks like a funny and nice ordinary person to be around.",
"Why",
"You’re covered, Trump doesn’t drink.",
"Ha! What is your definition of “stupid idiot” that allows for getting a bachelor’s of science?",
"Not really. I don’t know of a real definition for “stupid idiot” that allows for a bachelor’s of science. ",
"Doesn't surprise me if that's true. For whatever reason the Bin Laden family has strong relationships with the U.S. The strongest relationships are of course are with the bush family and their various buisineses. Salem Bin Laden, one of Osamas many brothers, was an investor in George W. Bushes oil drilling company Arbursto Energy. Shafiq Bin Laden, one of Osamas other brothers, invested in the Caryle group which George H.W. Bush was the senior advisor of. Bush senior and Shafiq Bin Laden were actually meeting together at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in D.C on the day of 9/11. With all flights halted on 9/11 the only exceptions made were to transport 140 Saudi nationals back to Saudi Arabia 24 of which being members of the Bin Laden family.",
"Good-hearted genuine people don't start wars on false pretenses that kill hundreds of thousands. Public figures may have a nice public persona but that doesn't mean shit",
"He was a family puppet. He was the JarJar Binks to Darth Chaney",
"What's the name? I can't see anything",
"White rich people < Hitler, amirite? ",
"If if if if if If if if if if If if if if if If if if if if ",
"[Here's another original piece by Hitler not many people have seen. ](https://i.imgur.com/H6gwMXw.jpg) He actually was a big animal lover and had numerous pets he painted.",
"Jokes on him we got fooled again",
"Thanks, so the story I must have read must have been apocraphyl in the sense that the remaining family is unmarried, but haven't sworn off procreation. \n\n\nIt's sort of a capsule of the wider discussion around bigotry and racism. Because some of the family doesn't appear to be proactively racist in the same sense as their kin but almost defensively so, with the obvious exception of William, just out of a sense of survival. Just going off of the Austrian heir that wants access to the estate. \n\n\nVery interesting subject",
"Lots of people have B.S.'s. Lots of them are stupid idiots. ",
"So I say! Hey Lama! How about a little something for the effort? He was gonna stiff me.\n\nName this movie!?!?",
"How much does an adolph go for now?",
"Hey! That was my mommy's birthday too! :D",
"“Sorry I couldn’t help your country, but here’s a painting”",
"Reddit wasn't founded until his second term and the user base was a fraction of its current size. That said, yes liberals hated Bush too but he was not sleazy and 100% self-interested, he was just kind of dumb and let himself be led around by his father and their cronies. Now that he isn't a danger to anybody and he's just a sad old dumb guy with a good heart, sure we like him. Trump will never make this 180 because he's a pile of greed, pettiness, and egotism and pretty much nothing else. There's no 'good heart' thumping in there to make us pity him.\n\nBush would have never said terrible things about Mexicans, immigrants and black people even if he saw the border as an important issue. Bush would have never lowered the dignity of other countries by calling them \"shitholes,\" he was a bad President and he got us involved in at least one completely unnecessary war and one that was overly burdensome, but he had dignity and was somewhat respectable when his mouth didn't betray him into sounding dumb while speaking.",
"Well, he paints like he doesn't know where his light source is. The person you're responding to also gave examples of how he painted \"wrongly\". It looks self-taught, in the sense that he seems to have missed some technical training that would have corrected the common mistakes he makes in multiple pieces.\n\nSo yeah, if he's trying to achieve a landscape with a degree of realism, he misses the mark at points. It's not bad, but it's definitely not \"good\".",
"I didn't say veto. I said speak. Talk to people. Inspire. You're the leader of the free world, this is what you do.",
"Hahahaha ok Charlie",
"But they only said \"potato\" twice.",
"It's not that there isn't value in seeing the paintings but it would be very challenging to do it properly. You don't want to glorify his works but you need to provide proper context. His works provide a lot of challenges and there is no shortage of other works to show so no one is any hurry to put them on display. ",
"Hitler a mod of /r/prorevenge ?",
"What does Hillary have to do with this? Hillary hasn't been relevant for over a year. I'm talking about people who, despite what we've seen him say/do/attempt to do (which is just as bad), don't say, \"oh man, this guy sucks,\" they keep defending him and most of the time, falling back on \"but muh not hillaries!!\"",
"I thought that was Charlie Kelly original?",
"If anyone is wondering why the Bush and Bin Laden family may collude to stage a major attack as a pretext to invade afghanistan. The Carlye group has major investment in various aerospace and military arms companies. Therefore the Bush and Bin Laden families would both directly profit from the invasion of Afghanistan and subsequently Iraq shortly after. That is just one theory but there are a plethora of various possibilities that you can research for yourself.",
"Think about it - he's in Germany just hanging out. \"Oh I love chocolate, I love my dog.\" Then someone takes it from him and he goes crazy, decides to kill everyone. ",
"Dude I have a B.S. and I can be a stupid idiot on a lot of topics. ",
"Mental illness is often hereditary. ",
"They accepted him during the election and have stopped listening to how he’s portrayed. They judge him more by his actions.\n\nThey’re not in the constantly outraged crowd often found on reddit. I know some of these people so I’m giving you an explanation. If you just want to rant then let me know and I’ll stop replying. ",
"Caddyshack. But when he dies he will find enlightenment, so he's got that going for him. ",
"Don’t misunderestimate me!\n\n But in all seriousness, he’s obviously a much better person and speaker than Trump. ",
"...but not a complete stupid idiot. ",
"Did he do it with his crayon set his mom bought him for his birthday? ",
"pretty sure that picture is from It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia ",
"Slight nit pick. Senate vote was 98 to 1 because Mary Landrieu (D-LA) was away from the Senate and didn't vote, but she did vote for every reissuing that came after.",
"Neither does W funny enough",
"well bush turned out ok after all",
"he fucked up the eyebrows, but looks pretty good other than that.\n",
"> They judge him more by his actions.\n\nBut they're not. I know enough of them, too (work with a few). Bring up something fucking terrible he does and they either deny it or try to say, \"Hillary would have done the same thing or even worse!\" They literally don't judge him.",
"Afghanistan didn't attack us. The Taliban didn't attack us. They offered to turn Bin-Laden over if Bush provided evidence of guilt. \n\nhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5\n\nInstead Bush elected for the \"bull in a china shop\" option (i.e. full scale regime-change and nation building). \"We\" had no moral right to destroy yet another nation.",
"In terms of artistic talent. Yes.\n",
"“Keep your day job Georgie” ",
"Not sure if he’s a better artist than he was president, or a better president than he is an artist.",
"Not tons, 5.\n\nhttp://all-that-is-interesting.com/hitlers-descendants",
"If I recall correctly, they do have an idea of the area hitler died and it's a parking lot. ",
"Same here! Happy early birthday! ",
"Fuck George W! Paint your nightmares away you fuckin war criminal! George W. is a treasonous traitor who deserves to be painting in a hole behind bars! ",
"Not to take anything away from you, but is there a reference of that? Sounds like an odd thing to be written into the history books..",
"He could have become a great painter but he chose the easy path.",
"Why would he have? He, like most people at the time, supported it.\n\nIt makes about as much sense as blaming George Washington for slavery. Could he have spoken out against it when they were figuring out how the country would work? Yeah. But he didn't, because people at the time were cool with slavery.",
"And mental ill people dont deserve anything? You know, that sound awfully like Hitler",
"George Burns as the Dalai Lama.",
"History is starting to show that.\n\nHe had a lot of bad things happen during his presidency, and a lot of people (Rove, Cheney) manipulating for their own agenda.\n\nBut by every account he only wanted what he thought would be best for the country. He had a conservative slant, but it was well intentioned. It wasn’t so much pushing and agenda as it was doing the best for America.\n\nKeep in mind he very explicitly ordered his staff to make the transition to Obama’s team as smooth as possible. He reportedly did everything possible to help Obama hit the ground running, even with an agenda that didn’t agree with his. He broke with his party trying to save the economy. He never spoke out against a sitting or former president.\n\nI don’t think Trump even has that continuity within his own administration. Certainly won’t keep it for the next. He’ll be in the news constantly wining about anything/everything the next year president does.",
"Gone are the days when we had respectful President. Now any honky tonk white cracker can be president. ",
"German John Wick gone way too far.",
"He wasn't a career politician and wasn't a part of any previous presidential family. Had a general America first policy, wasn't gonna be a pushover on illegal immigration, wasn't going to go to war with Russia, was pulling out of TPP, didn't call half of Americans racist deplorables, never took money from Haitians, the worst parts of him are typical rich guy shit and that is something America can deal with, more so than mrs 30,000 missing emails and Benghazi career politician. ",
"Barley Charlie",
"Well, everything is basically the outcome of a looong tree of cause and effect (probably influenced by quite a lot of quantum randomness), so ultimately, being a dick must have some cause as well.",
"What I worry about the most is that someone will come along who actually does make us think this way. Trump’s opening the doors for someone actually good at being evil to do some real shit.",
"I think it’s a thought experiment meant to prove a point. ",
"I was speaking more to why the family could choose not to precreate",
"I never thought I would see the day when Dubya appears like a man that I would prefer to see in the office of POTUS in place of another, but each passing day makes him look more statesman like, dignified, experienced, qualified and cultured in comparison to the childish, self obsessed, weak, ignorant and loathsome savage that currently is systematically dismantling the global standing of the USA whilst simultaneously making a laughing stock of the solemn responsibility of his role currently. Come back Tex. all is forgiven! ",
"He seems like a pretty cool dude apart from being a shitty leader.",
"I'm sure they also don't want their museum to become a neo-Nazi point of interest.",
"I AM ROBOT AND WHAT ARE JOKES! ",
"why and how does Bush have on a ill fitted suit ? ",
"To be fair I am American and could only name a handful of our presidents lol.",
"Wasn't the picture created by Hitler and given to their Nazi grandfather?",
"12 years from now Reddit will love Trump",
"I would've voted for a random person off the street over Trump, but I voted for Trump over Hillary since while both are unlikable asshats, at least Trump is an asshole to the rest of the politicians too. Either Trump doesn't do much and people forget about him, he does well which is good for the country, or he does such a shitty job that people have to rethink the political system. Any of those is good in my book.",
"Yeah I mean in flight... I can't imagine on a commercial flight in the US since 9/11 you have been allowed to go sit in the cockpit in flight/hold the controls (i mean i did get to do this as a kid and obviously nothing was active) but still. ",
"Came here to day this. I too share the same birthday.",
"Quick, somebody post this to r/the_donald and watch them go ape shit over how talented he is.",
"Trust me, this is the best Trump painting out there",
"Yup. I actually was going through our loft and found a tiny TINY little cutout in the newspaper about Saddam once again chucking out UN weapon inspectors. It was a general back and forth at that time. ",
"I don't know about vowing never to marry, but I can see where relationships might hit a barrier with, \"So tell me about your family.\"",
"That's the joke....",
"I still think that was a quick cover to not have a soundbyte of the president saying shame on me. \n\nNot a good cover. But a cover. ",
"The Quora post has a critic’s thoughts that are not that flattering\n\n>\"They look quite typical of an aspiring student hoping to get into art school - tentative and not very certain about his perspective when he's using pencil and pen, making basic errors by getting the top and the bottom of a candlestick wrong in relation to each other and so on.\nAnd he doesn't yet have much in the way of technical skill, but it's not so bad that one can't imagine him learning - especially when he's bolder with the charcoal or black chalk.\nBut there's no latent genius here, and not much beyond a moderate GCSE. Probably if the artist was at school today you wouldn't encourage him to keep the subject up at A Level.”\n",
"George Bush actually had some pretty rad self portraits, including one of himself in the bathtub and one of himself taking a shower and looking in the mirror. \n\nhttps://www.theverge.com/2013/2/8/3966678/hacker-reveals-george-w-bush-self-portraits\n\nThe quality might be a little off, but the sheer weirdness of these bathroom self portraits makes me want to give him an A+.",
"Then you should read the comment i was originally replying too again, because this had nothing to do with why they wouldn't want to continue the family line.",
"Understandable decision, as they most definitely feel a great deal of shame, but it is not their fault and shouldn't suffer in vain. Evilness isn't in genes. They are probably more conserned that their children would learn who they are related to and the shame never ends.",
"Right I thought 'they don't deserve shit' was their way of agreeing with the other topic mentioned above about the family not wanting to continue the bloodline. On mobile its hard to see which specific comment is being replied to. ",
"Not only because what people wanted but also because Afghanistan had training camps for terrorists there. It had to be stopped and would have continued to be a threat to world security. ",
"I read about halfway through Rise and Fall, before I realized I didn't care that deeply about Hitler. Anyhow, I don't remember the coat story. \n\nIt seems like an impossible thing to document, too. Hitler wouldn't be inclined to mention it, and how often do you ask a homeless person to tell you his full name and then you remember it so that years later you can testify that you gave him a coat? ",
"The “psycho”-path some may say",
"I do not like this painting, it’s smug aura mocks me",
"Painting is a way of coping with PTSD.\n\nIt has been suggested that he suffers from this due to launching 2 wars (1 of which was wholly unnecessary) and seeing the casualties his decisions caused.",
"This doesn't surprise me. I mean hell...I could never hurt any animal, but there are definitely a few people I would be completely fine killing if I was put in a position where it was either them or me. Their deaths would greatly benefit me emotionally and financially. But I still won't step on a snail. ",
"Bad comparison, but think the Buddhist Pope?",
"Why?\n\nHe's a fucking idiot who let his neocon advisors get the US into a baseless war in Iraq and war without end in general.\n\nThe only reason he doesn't seem retarded in retrospect is because of the fucktard in office now.",
"I'd just leave it at, yeah I don't really know my Dad like that",
"Jimmy Carter paints, too, but people give him a harder time than this war criminal. Huh.",
"Exactly. He wasn't a buffoon trying to do his best. He was an irresponsible man who did truly evil things. ",
"#1 - It's terrible.\n#2 - He's terrible.",
"Lol@dalai lama for accepting it. Bush is a war criminal",
"Yea, still hate bush for starting a fake oil war that killed millions. Fuck him.",
"“Murica” - That’s the best you can summon against another adult with an opinion other than your own? That’s the laziest response I’ve ever seen. I’d expect something better. Leave your revisionist history in \n/r/imverysmart.\n\nYou wax nostalgically about the good ol’ Taliban? Miss their rule and the foundation for the isis ideology? \n\nI’ll bet your collection of doucherocket vape mods is impressive.\n",
"I would sock that guy in the balls so hard. And as for Bush....",
"Correct me if I'm wrong.\n\nIs the Dalai Lama a shame if he enjoys spending time with a war criminal? ",
"It really is if you look at it. Bill Clinton and Obama were equally terrible. ",
"Eh? That seems a little bit harsh. I got a B at GCSE and I couldn't even think of drawing that.",
"Oh wow, you always hear people say stuff about him being a \"failed artist\" but those are all pretty good. Maybe if people had bought one or two more of the overpriced paintings he had hanging up at your local hipster coffee house, none of that whole \"exterminate the jews, etc.\" thing would have happened.",
"F",
"How do you feel about his legalization of torture?",
"\"Art Critic\" \n\nLol",
"Good artist, lousy politician.",
"Trump is a stable genius compared to Bush. ",
"> Though the whole iraq/afghanistan invasion thing is kind of hard to gloss over in that regard.\n\nYeah those hundreds of thousands of people dying you mean? Yeah",
"As someone with PTSD... that's not how it works or you end up with it..",
"I can look back at W as a man doing his best in an administration that got away from him. *Kind of.* That doesn't excuse some of the things W did, but the man has a personal charisma that Trump utterly lacks. Looking back during 9/11 you could see flashes of what W was trying to be his entire administration. I would have a beer with W, I don't think I have anything whatsoever in common with a man like Trump. \n\nI honestly don't know if I can look back a couple years from now at the Trump administration and go 'well, they did their best and fucked up.' They're doing their worst and still fucking up.\n\n",
"He hoped that ‘man and fish’ could ‘co-exist peacefully’. And he made torture legal. ",
"That’s actually quite good, and to be honest the best compliment is having someone paint you as they see you from their perspective. Still though, not a fan of bush but this is the one thing he’s done that I can appreciate and respect.",
"> For more than half a century they have lived with the terrible legacy of the most hated man in history.\n\nSomeone tell this journalist about Attila, Gengis Khan and several more that killed way more people and were way less liked than Hitler pls. ",
"And yet still a fucking cunt. Go figure ",
"I don't really give a shit.\n\n1. I said his presidency aside, so good on your reading.\n\n2. If you think he legislated any of that, here's a pat for ya.",
"Actually he was rejected from art school. So the blitzkrieg life chose him ",
"That's for u/frenchfries",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/KenM/comments/4pt0lq/ken_m_on_hitler/\n",
"I've been there, there's a small sign, but nothing else. Seems odd a place of such historical significance is so ignored, but sensible to stop it becoming a rallying place for neonazis...",
"Speaking as a pretty hardcore liberal, you should read the portraits book he did a little while back. The paintings he did of soldiers. I can fault the man for a lot of things, but his personal commitment to veterans is a good thing.",
"Heavily underrated post.",
"Bet he'd take you to a local bar with a bull riding simulator.",
"> It was a lose/lose situation.\n\nFor what? His ego? \n\n> Oh gee wizz I don't want to make everyone upset soooo spin the globe and let's bomb that country.",
"> But in all seriousness, he’s obviously a much better person\n\nQuestionable. So far trump's general incompetence has to an extent kept in check and we aren't dealing with Iraq war round 2 yet.",
"Well played, enjoy your upvote.",
"War in Iraq. That was always the policy.",
"Not a great president but precious elderly man",
">Japan's sending Playstations. Stankonia said they are willing to drop bombs over Baghdad. Riggity Row is coming. Afrika Bambaataa and the Zulu Nation. So, I'm not doing this by myself, and I'm not disrespecting the UN, even though they don't got no army. Go sell some medicine, bitches! I'm trying to get that oil...",
"> If we remove Iraq and it's repercussions from W's time as president, he wasn't that bad.\n\nHmm global warming and the economy. Nah he was a failure by any reasonable standads.",
"Oh man, I really wish he would have finished his career. Career of painting..",
"Lots of people like him now, that's why he is president.\n\nHopefully at the next election, the people who hate Trump will all vote.",
"To get more light in, enlighten.",
"When you want to return to your homeland but all you get from a guy who could have helped with that gives you a painting.",
"Hey! Me too! ",
"We'd just find it as funny as you.",
"> He had a lot of bad things happen during his presidency, \n\nWell yes that tends to happen if you are incompetent.\n\n>Keep in mind he very explicitly ordered his staff to make the transition to Obama’s team as smooth as possible. He reportedly did everything possible to help Obama hit the ground running, even with an agenda that didn’t agree with his.\n\nBecause by that point he was aware that everyone included his own party hated him and was despirately trying to salvage some kind of dignity.",
"I've always thought of what I would've done in that situation. 1st, I would never have had the awareness to realize I was about to create that soundbyte in the first place. 2nd, I don't think I could have come up with a decent escape mid sentence.",
"...and rape women according to his ex-wife.\n\n> “Your fucking doctor has ruined me!” Trump cried.\n\n>What followed was a “violent assault,” according to Lost Tycoon. Donald held back Ivana’s arms and began to pull out fistfuls of hair from her scalp, as if to mirror the pain he felt from his own operation. He tore off her clothes and unzipped his pants.\n\n>“Then he jams his penis inside her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified… It is a violent assault,” Hurt writes. “According to versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, ‘he raped me.’”\n\n>Following the incident, Ivana ran upstairs, hid behind a locked door, and remained there “crying for the rest of night.” When she returned to the master bedroom in the morning, he was there.\n\n> “As she looks in horror at the ripped-out hair scattered all over the bed, he glares at her and asks with menacing casualness: ‘Does it hurt?’” Hurt writes.\n\nAlso /u/Neil_gamby_VP, I don't see why it matters that he beat a woman int he election. Or is that really why you support Trump?",
"John wick but without the part where he gets married and chills the fuck out.",
"That's... That's actually quite good.",
"Yeah, I imagine you'd get some of those guys walking in with swastikas all over themselves and think, \"okay, maybe we put back the Georgia O'keefes\".",
"To hell with the Dalai Lama. He wants to be a king in Tibet and return his constituents back to an era of serfdom. Don't fall for the propaganda.",
"What about lying the country into an unnecessary war? Hardly seems good hearted. \n\nHonestly I hate this white washing of W now that he’s out of office. He was a terrible terrible president. Maybe a lot of people here were too young to remember him. ",
"/delusionalartists",
"How'd he know what the Dalia Lama was going to be wearing?",
"Yea, those were my thoughts as well. Feels more like a propaganda/myth to ad on top what was already there. My point is more that Hitler was a pretty nasty person to begin with, so do we really need feel good lies about that guy?",
"Dick Cheney knew Iraq would collapse in a civil war. Listen to this:\n\nhttps://youtu.be/YENbElb5-xY\n\nHe literally in 2 minutes predicted everything that happened. It’s jaw dropping that he knew, and did it anyway. ",
"TIL hitler was a goos painter. \n\nEdit: nope. Leaving it. ",
"but still a pretty big jerk",
"Hitler could have been such a great artist but he chose the easy path.",
"Torture. USAPATRIOT Act, which includes mass surveillance on Americans. Bailouts. Iraq deserves a second mention.\n*Oh, and unfunded tax cuts for the rich, which brought about the recession.\nSure, not bad at all.",
"That wagon looks a little off",
"July babies are da shizzle. I'm a little biased since my b-day is July 8. ",
"No true. Diplomacy was an option. Afghanistan was a mistake, it just wasn't as big a mistake as Iraq 2.\n\nWhen I Iraq 1 happened I was surprised that they pulled out when they did, I think that was the first mistake that allowed for the 3rd to happen.",
"So, we subtract the worst thing a leader of a country has done and then assess whether they were still a bad leader or not? \n\nSorry, they don't give Mulligans in world history.",
"Why does this feel like a copypasta? ",
">you/I/everyone wanted BLOOD\n\nSpeak for yourself. Thanks for the reminder of just how fucking stupid this country is. Sure, I'm reminded on a daily basis, but still!",
"Yup, before Iraq I thought he was doing an ok job. After Iraq I thought he was doing a bad job",
"He didn’t cause hurricane Katrina or 9/11. ",
"A relationship with a good tailor has value far beyond what you pay him. ",
"Reddit: 'WTF I love George Bush now!'",
"yeah they are terrible people, i dont like when people say bush wasnt so bad as if the president didnt play a major role in everything",
"Probably because enough people aren't ready for that kind of complicated and challenging thought process.\n\nWe live in the age of outrage, many vocal people would rather call Hitler the devil and hate the museum for showing his work.",
"we used to bitch about war criminals starting a war based on lies and setting up torture programs, now we think thats not so bad cause trump tweets and says some fucked up things...",
">Media found a new republican to demonize \n\nCould you imagine a world where politicians worked together for the common good? And instead of demonizing, they would just critique policies?",
"Got a few good chuckles out of your comment history, thanks. To be clear, I don't automatically ridicule republicans, just ones who think Trump is doing a good or even passable job. Have fun back at the circle jerk. \n\nP.S. Yeah yeah, I'm a leftist cuck or whatever childish insult you're all using now. Funny story, I voted for the dumb fuck because I didn't trust Hillary but at this point I'd much rather have her representing our country than him. At least she wouldn't regularly be embarrassing us on twitter while she ran the nation into the shitter.\n\nEdit: u/Mirarid_4 and I continued our conversation and it has been amicable, pleasant and respectful despite our differing viewpoints. \n\nFor continuity’s sake I have not tampered with the original text. ",
"\"Hitler was rejected from art school. Long story short, the United States dropped two atomic bombs on the sovereign nation of Japan.\"\n\n-Brian Regan (I think)",
"Itll still be Buchanan at the end of the day.",
"Generally, people here are very biased against Hitler, and don't do a very good job of hiding it.",
"Hi 'style', fits in the 'naive' classification and considering how long he's been doing the painting for, it really is a mirror to his low IQ, no talent hack, silver spoon background.\n\nThe man is a dotard, and that's me being very nice to him.",
"There's no reason that they should have had a say in the extradition terms. If you facilitate an attack on a stronger country then you're lucky if you get a chance to avoid war. ",
"\"Well I'm gonna build my own art school! With panzers! And swastikas! In fact, forget the art school!\"",
"Yes, ethics and morality.",
"right so it wasnt the presidents fault that his admin invaded a country based on complete lies and set up a massive torture and surveillance program, he was just manipulated into it? that seems unlikely",
"I can only agree with your take.",
"Not really, you're not required to only wear vegan clothes if you're a buddhist. Although the idea is that all living creatures were at one point your parents, you are still permitted to eat meat and wear animal remains if you remain mindful of that relationship and don't wastefully consume.\n\nIn fact, Tibetan buddhism uses a ton of leather and other animal products (including human remains) in the construction of ritual objects as reminders of impermanence.\n\nVegetarianism / Veganism is a part of some Buddhist sects (primarily in China), but not really a thing in classical Tibetan buddhism. Historically the Tibetan plateau was fucking terrible for farming so a fully vegetarian diet has only become a viable option in the last few years. HH the 17th Gyalwang Karmapa is like the second most prominent lama in Tibetan Buddhism and he's all about vegetarianism now.",
"A world without parties perhaps. Where people wouldn't feel so obligated to go with the bad of their party to further the good it does. Idk.",
"On his last appearance with Leno on the Tonight Show (when Bush gave Leno a portrait he'd done of him) Leno remarked how much more relaxed Bush seemed... His response: \"Well, duh!\" \n",
"God he’s adorable. I miss him (which is ironic because when I young it was cool to hate him)",
"Yeah, I don't get it. He was awful. And people who are too young to remember his presidency can still learn about it, they don't get a free pass.",
"thats hilarious",
"While that's true, putting all the blame on Bush is a really reductive way to present what happened and is kind of just as silly as saying he's a friendly old uncle. A lot of people, including politicians on both sides, helped put in action everything we hate about that time. Yes, he was president and his responsibility isn't negligible. But he did what we hope presidents would do and surrounded himself with smart, savvy people, and they mostly failed him.",
"Which South Park character is this?\n",
"His early portraits were pretty rough. But he's gotten substantially better over time.\n\n>“Dude, suckin’ at something is the first step to being sorta good at something.” - Jake, the Dog\n",
"I think you mean Tomi Lahren.",
"Yes: \"lied\" about the chemical weapons that Saddam had previously, they found in ammo dumps all over the country, and found the internal correspondence and equipment showing he was going to rebuild all of his chemical weapon arsenal and use them as soon as UN inspections ended. Make whatever excuses you want in retrospect. The invasion of both were approved by Congress and the American people. Revisionist history at it's best.",
"Maybe he just can’t paint that well and this is attribution of an intent that is not there? \n\nUnless you’re GWB on a vanity account and finally have an opportunity to convey your ideas. ",
"TIL \"2\" is a lot.\n\nIn any case he had been president for more than a lot of years when the United States Army Corps of Engineers built Levees failed. He was free to address the matter during that time and yet he chose not to.",
"Now get Karl Rove to talk us into invading Tibet.",
"its not? He could have saved the lived of hundreds of thousands of civilians by not starting his war based on lies to attack a country that had nothing to do with 911. ",
"Do you like movies about gladiators?",
"I wasn't about to call you anything :)",
"lol",
"It's just a gesture of kindness it doesn't have to be anything fancy or well made, it's the thought that counts. ",
"And I think an important point to make that you might have touched on is that no, Hitler wasn't some cartoony-perfect supervillain. Especially near the end, he had many faults and became the Nazis' greatest weakness. He also had flaws of character when he sought an evil political career after being denied entry to the Vienna School of Fine Arts. The context behind these paintings humanize Hitler (particularly because they're pretty good and too cheery for someone who had a hand in killing 6 million Jews), and while it may be very hard for us to look at him as human like us, it's important that we do because it shows how flawed humans are as a whole and how likely it is for history to repeat itself if we're not careful and if we don't learn from it.",
"The Dalai Lama is the leader (actually second in command but w/e) of the Geluk School of Tibetan Buddhism. The Dalai Lama is a Tulku, or reincarnate lama. When the Dalai Lama dies, a child is chosen to correspond to visions and prophecies to be the reincarnation of the previous Dalai Lama. There have been 13 previous Dalai Lama's, so this one (Tenzin Gyatso) is the 14th.\n\nThere are three (or four) other schools of Tibetan Buddhism: Kagyu, Sakya and Nyingma. Geluk remains the largest and most influential school. The Dalai Lama used to also be the head of state of Tibet, but that has changed in recent years.\n\nSo he's the leader of a sect of a denomination of Buddhism. He doesn't speak for all buddhists, nor even all Tibetan Buddhists. However, almost all Tibetan Buddhists will venerate His Holiness, and he is widely respected across the Buddhist world.",
"Yes apart from the hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties caused by the war he launched (under false pretenses) against a country that didn't attack the U.S., he seems like a real gent now that he's out of office.",
"He was a good person that surrounded himself with bad people like Cheney and Rumsfeld and wasn’t smart enough or determined enough to push back. ",
"That’s up to congress not the president. Also he wasn’t the only president in that position.\n\nCan’t blame him for Congress not prioritizing infrastructure.",
"Name a president since Calvin Coolidge how's actions hasn't caused death and disaster in some part of the world or another",
"Umm wut. I don’t like the Taliban you nitwit. \n\nI just don’t think it was fair for the us to invade Afghanistan on the lie they did \n\nThey didn’t fly jets into the buildings \n\nHow dare you say such a thing. \n\nAmerica acts as hostile as it chooses to towards Countries which are secondarily aggressive but does nothing against primary aggressive countries. \n\nIt makes no sense to people outside of the us. Hence the term “murica” is actually fairly accurate. \n\nThe question is why did the us attack Afghanistan in retaliation for 9/11. And the answer is - murica ",
"Bobby Newport",
"Honestly speaking, It's a good looking Dalai Lama.",
"Yeah, I read that he'd have his own people gassed if they were caught abusing an animal. ",
"Well you just totally defied my expectations and I apologize. Usually I get vitriol for anything that doesn't include bowing down and calling him God Emperor. Gonna have to agree to disagree about his performance but I'm glad we can do that respectfully. Have a good evening, my fellow American. ",
"What's so funny about art critics?",
"History increasingly points to Cheney and his military contractor connections and the House/Senate sealing with his office directly.\n\nHe was certainly involved, but there’s less and less evidence it was his efforts and more like he was along for the ride Rove and Cheney set him on.\n\nKeep in mind most of that were acts of congress, not the president.",
"The Dalai Lama has a well-known liking for high end watches",
"Art school can be brutal...",
"dalai lama standing next to war criminal who should be hanged",
"Awesome contribution. ",
"And that’s why art schools will accept anyone to this very day",
"It would be worth going just to watch peoples reactions. Even watching a racist show up and pay omage would be surreal and thought provoking. Not to say yonic flora aren't :)",
"It’s an original hitler!",
"That’s not what revisionist means. Nobody at the time realized how much the administration was hyperbolizing their “evidence” to justify a war. Now we know. ",
"> good-hearted genuine person\n\nHe sure didn't show it through his policies.",
"Same!",
"It’s finger lickin good ",
"I feel like Trump gave a carte blanche to everyone else to look good in comparison. I feel a lot of people relate to him because he's a goofy white dude from Texas.",
"What exactly did Afghanistan have to do with 911?\n\nEdit: thousands of kids died due to the war in Afghanistan. Surely you can give me a straightforward reason why Saudi Arabia wasn't touched, instead of down votes.",
"I said Reddit hates him",
"> That’s up to congress not the president.\n\nSo you are saying he was incabable of working with a republican congress? So we are back to the \"he was incompetent not evil\" defence?\n\nIn any case he had a fair ability to take actions under the Flood Control Act of 1965 but again chose not to.",
"how did he not get into art school?",
"For a while I think he was pretty depressed just look at these self portraits https://www.theverge.com/2013/2/8/3966678/hacker-reveals-george-w-bush-self-portraits He looks like he's doing better now though",
"Might as well finish with \"...But I suppose art is subjective so it's ok I guess, fuck you Hitler.\"",
"you're suggesting the most powerful nation in the world should negotiate with a terrorist-harboring islamic nation whose very existence insults anyone with a sense of justice?\n\nthe fuck is wrong with you?\n\nyou know what these people did?",
"How does that painting look like Dalai AND George W?",
"I wonder if it was a birthday present.",
"The flowing robes, the grace; striking really.",
"Damn, he should have tried to get in an art school.",
"Relax you two, youre acting like a couple of tater tots",
"Yeah, Hitler was a war criminal *after* he was an artist.",
"He wasn't the best speaker and in hindsight made some poor choices as president, but to call someone who went to Yale and became president of the US as having a low IQ is just ignorant, you're simply acting childish because he's on the opposite side of the political spectrum than you and resulting to the classic \"name calling\", he's not a bad guy, learn to accept that not everyone has to think just like you and hold the same opinions as you to be intelligent or right, diversity extends to thought as well as everything else. ",
"If that's the only criteria, the US has a lot of invading to do... ",
"To be fair, he was kind of an asshole who did atrocious things to millions of people. With that characterization in mind, it's easy to understand people's bias.",
"Really?",
"Yeah, I'm 45 and my casual dress is the same as what I wore in the early 90s as a teen.",
"Oh wow. Very interesting.",
"hahahahahaha",
"I wonder how different things would be if Hitler had gotten accepted into art school.",
"Would make a great prank too. Just sign all your shitty 'Hitler' and sell it at your garage sale. ",
"He said he'd get his revenge on those Jews in the school board. No one thought he actually meant it. ",
"So, if he’d kept on being president, he might be really good at it by now?",
"Well you’re right that he never should have been president. ",
"He was proudly ignorant and happy to stoke the desire for blood. Dude was a disaster. ",
"His work isn't bad at all, not great, but not bad.",
"As far as I recall it was part of a paragraph about the man who took pity on him for a little while. ",
"the dalai lama looks like a king of the hill character ",
"Oh I know.\n\nIt was more of a flippant remark.\n\nHe doesn't have PTSD.\n\nBut I believe he is mentally haunted by the decisions he made as president.",
"We fought for that kind of freedom so Hitlers would never happen again.\n\nOr something like that.",
"[Here you go](https://youtu.be/EUpXdv2oV3A)",
"It's \"one thing led to another\"\n\nhttps://youtu.be/EUpXdv2oV3A",
"Yeah, of course things are worse off for them after the removal of Hussein, and a large reason is because of the destabilization caused by the large scale military intervention from the United States and her allies. I literally stated that there are more solutions than military intervention, and I stated what we did made things worse, yet you call me a white knight who refuses to acknowledge the intricacies of the situation? Hello? Just read what I actually typed and stop trying to make grand assumptions about what I said.",
"I see you're one of those \"edgy\" types. Even as a \"joke\" this is stupid.",
"It's almost as if people who support the opposite party demonize the sitting president",
"And two scoops. ",
"> To be fair\n\nBias, by it's very nature, isn't fair.",
"Everything.",
"He did actually have quite a bit of restraint, especially early on. He was very careful not to blame American Muslims, or to frame the terrorist attacks as a conflict between America and Islam. He didn’t have to do that. If a Donald Trump-like figure were president during that period, we could have had mass arrests and internment camps on American soil.\n\nThe war in Iraq was unnecessary and initiated under false pretenses. Bush doesn’t get off the hook for that. Afghanistan was somewhat better justified, but our history of meddling in the region complicated everything.",
"I laughed so hard I gave myself a headache.",
"Just like Obama ",
"honestly if someone offered me a line or 2 with any president id be inclined to say yes",
"http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/projects/hitler/sources/30s/394newrep/394NewRepHanischHitlersBuddy.htm\n\nIn this article Hanisch states that when he knew Hitler he wore a coat given to him by Josef Neumann, a good friend of Hitler's and a Jew. Neumann helped Hitler in many ways, including financially. Reinhold Hanisch was a friend of Hitler's when Hitler was homeless and living in the men's hostel in Brigittenau. Hanisch also sold Hitler's paintings and Hitler made him a portrait, so they knew each other well. I would think Hanisch was telling the truth about the coat, as he was imprisoned and likely killed for writing negatively about Hitler.",
"Impossible to know.\n\nIf he’d managed to make progress on immigration reform with a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants (which was a centrist position at the time), he might have been moderately popular. He would also still have been more charismatic than John Kerry... although the Democrats might have run somebody else if there was no 9/11.",
"W Bush did grievous harm to America's standing in the world.",
"Iraq was a calculated monetization of the American tax payer.",
"So did Saddam",
"You took, never should of been president to mean saint?\n\n",
"That's creepy as fuck.",
"Big hitter, the lama. Long.",
"\"IT BELONGS TO ME!\"",
"I viewed this as a Cheny/Rumsfeld cock up. But the buck stops with the Potus, so the blame goes on Bush. We could almost claim to be the good guys before the Iraq war. Not after.",
"I disliked his policies but liked the man. To be honest though, I don’t know if we know what his policies were. I think every major decision was really Chaney’s. \n\nChaney or Trunp, which is the lesser person? That could really get to be a long debate.",
"The Taliban had been committing various human rights abuses for years. We officially were on good terms with them because they were doing a lot to slow opium (*ie* heroin) production.",
"That's pretty good, actually.",
"he may have had his issues, but all in all i think G.W was a pretty good person. didn't vote for him or anything, but since he's been away from the presidency i really respect what he's been doing. i think he's a good person.",
"\"Fuck I do wear this shirt a lot...\"",
"Seems like the dalai lama always has the same facial expression as my 4 month old neice",
"Look at Bush feet. Is he shopped in?",
"I understand that... but the tendency people have to joke about mental illness and diagnosis causes a horrible stigma that stops people from getting help. Or fear of being mocked themselves ... ",
"Tomogachi Southern",
"Have you ever seen a grown man naked?",
"IDK, I'm not smelling what you're stepping in TBH",
"You know what he means though. Semantics. ",
"Jesus Christ I can't believe I'm saying this, but I miss W.",
"Afghanistan wasn't a mistake. Not finishing the job at Tora Bora because we didn't want to piss off the Pakis was a mistake. Staying there was a mistake. We should have rolled up the Taliban, gotten our man and gotten out.",
"He did a lot of things very well. His reaction and handling of 9/11 was unifying. ",
"He's like the inverse of Hitler. \n\nHitler started out an artist and ended up a war criminal. \n\nBush started out a war criminal and ended up an artist. \n\n",
"That's symbolic... still needs congress to fund it. Congress controls the budget, not the president. He can sign executive orders and take whatever action he wants as president, but if congress doesn't provide funds it's symbolic.\n\nYou're just pointing out how broken the Republican party already was in 2000. The future \"Tea Party\" folks were already at work making sure the government was dysfunctional in their \"starve the beast\" mantra.\n\nPresidents don't have quite the power people think they do in the US. Most of their power comes from influencing the house/senate, and executive orders (which either require congress to provide funding to make them work, or congress to be inactive in making laws to counter the orders).",
"Thank you! Do people not remember that war or do they not realized that it cost hundreds of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars?",
"[The lesser known Hitler painting discovered within the last decade.](http://i.imgur.com/nuO8Dkf.jpg)",
"Gtfo",
"I second this",
"Not in a regular military capacity. Agents and operators leave a much much smaller footprint. It's not even remotely comparable.",
"That hacker was arrested the following year, I think.",
"Yes he is. Don't you watch CNN?",
"It’s eyes gives me the creeps. ",
"I've heard that \"George W. was the type of guy you'd want running your BBQ, but not the guy you want running your country.\"",
"That's some cartoon villain BS. \"He's bad because he's born with it.\" No, the scary thing about Hilter is that he just a human being who did bad things, he's not the devil. The evil exists in us all. Your argument sounds like a lesser version of Hilter's. ",
"I agree. It’s eyes are haunting. ",
"A cool dude who lies to help bring the country into war and kill hundreds of thousands of people.",
"Gotcha. Thank you for taking the time to respond to my comment with such a detailed answer, friend!",
"The descendents or governing authorities may have donated it since the Smithsonian is one of the largest and most famous museums in the world.",
"In the lastest \"WTF? PTSD?\" was Bryan Singer...\n\n\"Malek and Singer had at least one heated argument on set, where Singer reportedly threw an object. The two eventually decided to move forward, but after Singer did not return to the set after Thanksgiving – he's reportedly told people he's been suffering P.T.S.D. because of on-set friction – Sigel directed several scenes and production was stopped. THR says this led the studio to cancel his contract.\"\n\nhttps://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/queen-biopic-fires-director-bryan-singer-w513302\n\nMade me wanna punch him even more.\n",
"> That's symbolic... still needs congress to fund it. \n\nDepends on how much you are prepared to play with the $10 million limit.\n\n\n>You're just pointing out how broken the Republican party already was in 2000. The future \"Tea Party\" folks were already at work making sure the government was dysfunctional in their \"starve the beast\" mantra.\n\nThe dates don't fit. The Tea Party movement was created by FreedomWorks which didn't exist until 2004.\n\nIn any case Bush himself run on a taxcut so is part of the starve the beast thing.",
"It's super cute! The pride he's wearing on his face is making me so happy! ",
".....yeah....... about that.....",
"No",
"And about the next Dalai Lama... there might not be another.\n\nThat whole \"controlling\" the reincarnation by China and all that. I found it pretty interesting to read about it.\n\nhttp://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-30510018\n\nIn case anyone cares to read.",
"He wasn't kept in the dark. The idea that Cheney actually ran his presidency is a myth that no one knowledgeable takes seriously.",
" I like his paintings (god that's weird of me to say) but I feel I like them because they're... innocent, in a way. I think it shows he doesn't have a mastery of perspective yet, but that isn't their point. \n\nBathtub I feel is better but the shower is.... off. Nice, and all, but compare them to what Khalo does with a similar style and subject matter and you can tell there's an obvious difference in understanding scale and perspective on an intimate level. \n https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_Water_Gave_Me_(painting) \n\nShe is precise while George isn't.\n\nI'm also not the [only one](https://www.thedailybeast.com/george-w-bush-comes-out-as-artist) reminded of Frida by his work. \n\nAll that said.... I love it. He **isn't** a trained artist, he started panting after his disastrous time in office. So the technical skills will come with more and more practice and not like he has anything better to do. \n\nBut I like how of all the artists I would think of.... Frida Kahlo is kinda remarkable. \n\nI can't possibly believe Bush hasn't been influenced by her. But what the fuck does that say about him? What does he see in her **incredibly** introspective and self reflective art? Nor is she particularly kind to herself. \n\n This man was president of the united states, and a fucking shit one at that. \n\nSo I really can't help but love the idea that his art is an attempt to express the emotions that would come with such a heavy responsibility. \n\nI hated Bush but his art makes it clear there really is a human behind it. You don't try to emulate Frida if you don't have something you want to express. \n\nLet me put it this way. Obama would certainly likely say he is fond of her art, but I doubt he'd find his personal style in hers. He likes [abstract art and classical landscapes](https://www.theguardian.com/culture/charlottehigginsblog/2009/oct/07/art-barack-obama).\n\nHe fits with a very modern \"high class\" fine art demographic. He has his taste and perspective but I can't pretend the work he enjoys is as... personally fascinating as Bush's.\n\nTrump on the other hand likes art because it is fancy and expensive. He has no taste. [Andy Warhol](https://fineartmultiple.com/blog/donald-trump-art-collection/) famously despised the guy. \n\nHis aesthetic sense is gaudy and he doesn't have the patience to sit and reflect. \n\nBush, for as amateurish as his work might look, feels so god damn incredibly personal. It means something to him. \n\nHow can I not respect that?",
"Not to be that person but I think another war would be at least round 3, and you could possibly make the argument that it's round 4.",
"Big hitter, the Lama",
"It's not the first time he did that.",
"[Not me.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War)",
"Godwin's law in 2 moves. Impressive.",
"Riiiiiidiculous",
"Yeah... PTSD is from life threatening situations of yourself or witnessed for the most part...\n\nIt's very frustrating being used for whatever reason any more... it's a true serious battle for many that has turned into a joke.",
"Oh good. As much as I didn't like him as a president he's still human being and his privacy should be respected.",
"He has (had?) a few nephews in the US but they made an agreement not to have kids",
"Mine too! Don’t forget Tia and Tamara, Kevin Hart, and 50 cent. Great day to have a birthday! ",
"Maybe he can paint a picture of his dad playing grab ass.",
"Don't forget leadership. Way worse than Hitler's.",
"I meant that retarded, Republican, blonde haired bimbo who is always talking out of her ass on Fox News and interviews. Is that the same one?",
"Julian assange didn't order an airstrike and kill thousands of innocent civilians though.",
"Art schools are full of pricks",
"Yes I'm hitler for pointing out the fact that mental illness can be passed on. OK. ",
"I disagree here. Colin Powells UN speech was the worst load of crap I had ever seen. It didn't convince anyone, hell, even Colin Powell didn't look convinced when he was presenting it.",
"Evidence of his guilt was when he claimed responsibility on national TV lol Afghanistan wasn’t doing shit to find him ",
"George W. Bush is the cutest president by far. He‘s like a 5 year old. Second in line is Harry S. Truman, if we forget about those two happy little accidents, he seemed like a nice grandpa.",
"Yes",
"well call me crazy but I don't see any meaningful difference between art critics and film critics, or music critics, or literary critics. are all critics intrinsically funny? or is there something special about art in particular?",
"Not in the UN, no, but it was pretty effective for the masses at home. I admit I was fresh out of high school when all this went down, so my political acumen wasn't too great, but I remember it all really damn clearly. ",
"It's from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. ",
"For anyone too young, the Iraq invasion was pretty crazy. CNN's coverage of the initial bombing is one of the weirdest things you will ever see and it was all live on TV. The link below is the initial few hours if anyone is interested:\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC_-WaOQj14",
"The world would have been much better if he had been accepted to art school",
"Yeah, but that Haliburton stock tho. Pretty sure he predicted that too.",
"FREE TIBET",
"**As Divine Creator of The Tater, I Believe He Was Summoning Me!**",
"Woah. Hitler was really good. \n\nI mean in painting skills. ",
"When I was a kid I thought the Dali Lama was a cloned llama.",
"...laundering",
"I legitimately believe George was aware of his public image and played the role accordingly. Being constantly underestimated can have its uses, and being a lovable oaf is surely a more appealing look to his party than being scholarly or high class. ",
"Aside from being a bit baggy I think this looks perfectly fine to me. I understand the style is different now, but how? Educate me! ",
"July 6th family, where you all at?!",
"\"Mr. Poopy is so funny, Laura!\"",
"way better than the jesus picture",
"Yeah, I was unemployed at the time and around 20 so I pretty much watched it all day long. I really wasn't convinced at all with the whole wmd excuse for the invasion. The fact that they completely changed the \"reason\" for the invasion after they didn't find any pretty much proves that it was all bullshit and a scare tactic.",
"He's retired. He doesn't have to worry about how he dresses anymore. ",
"I heard (at the pub last week) that George W is drinking again.",
"Andrew Jackson was probably a prick - we may end up fighting if we have more than a few pints. And I am not sure that Nixon or Ford would be all that fun to hang out with.",
"Yep. I'd absolutely take Dubya again in a second compared to this. ",
"Does George Bush also draw for Southpark?",
"I mean, yeah, it definitely was, but I just mean that the Iraq justification was wayyyy more harrowing and presented as a far more imminent danger than NK. The attempt at getting us behind an Iran invasion was much closer. They made it sound like Iraq was gonna be nuking us any day now. \n\nI did like when the goalpost kept changing. First it was 9/11, but then we realized it wasn't related, so they started making it the \"Global War on Terror\" because Saddam was funding Al Qaeda with nukes or whatever, but then that didn't pan out so the justification turned into the vague notion of \"liberating\" Iraq. Remember how we were totally greeted as liberators? Good times.\n\nSaid it before and I'll say it again, Bush could have been a fairly uneventful one-term president if it hadn't been for 9/11, and I'm absolutely positive that (aside from the obvious reasons) he would have preferred it to have gone that way. ",
"When this clip was shown on the news, a guy I knew from the south suddenly blurted out:\n\n\"What the fuck ya doin' playin' baseball y'don't choo fix the fuckin' gas prices!\"",
"He paints better then he presidents",
"Geez... even George W. Bush was good at something ",
"Your Holiness , I kept it low.\nThe bush.",
"His call led to the death of 750,000 humans for nothing but Dick Chaney orders . I don,t know how he can sleep at night. Mass killer. ",
"I think W is probably a good enough man but also an idiot. I believe he was a puppet for the likes of Cheney, and didn’t know enough to make decisions that would better align with his intentions. Will never know for sure, but my issues with him before Trump were less based on him being evil and more based on him potentially being a moron. ",
"Fo sho. He made decisions I don’t at all agree with. ",
"You are a moron if you think the taliban was ever going to turn him over. ",
"Yep, I agree 100%. Just a pity that he had Rumsfeld and Cheney by his side warmongering.",
"It looks like a Dalai Lama from south park",
"\"Thank Buddha I'm not allowed to have worldly attachments\"",
"It wasn't his ouster that fucked the region, it was dismantling all semblance of government before having anything new in place. ",
"That's what I figure would have happened. He pisses off enough people, gets toppled by either the military or the \"people\" with the tacit support of the military, new guy is just a slightly different flavor of despotic asshole. ",
"Dubya absolutely worshiped his dad, and the combination of having his dad's buddies combined with a reason to go after the dude who attempted to assassinate his dad was undoubtedly just too much for him to say no to.\n\nI feel like that's an oft-forgotten piece of the puzzle. Saddam legit had tried to blow up HW Bush with a car bomb. It's not terribly surprising that 10 years later Jr would leap at the opportunity to take him out. ",
"If it didn't seem like such a petty amount I would have thought the same thing. That should be a pittance to someone as rich as they say they are, though.",
"At least we don't have a kenyan born muslim with no birth certificate in the white house! Amirite ? 'murica!! /s",
"Hidding terrorists, terrorist training camps.",
"It's the Dalia Lama from South Park",
"That would be accurate. They are all committed to letting the genes die",
"No, the answer is because they were harboring the people that organized the attacks. \n\nNot every American is a shit-heeled, AR-toting warhawk, so take your ‘Murica comment and shove it. \n\nWhat false pretense did we invade Afghanistan under? They didn’t want to give up bin laden and his cronies. They had that chance, and they sided with al-Qaeda. Only then did the furtherance of a regime change (which was decidedly needed long before by pretty much the world) set into motion. The Taliban picked the wrong bedfellows, didn’t they? You reap what you sow. They could have joined the 21st century and turned them over, but they preferred to hold to their antiquated belief system of social repression and “the evil west”, blah blah blah, and it became a self-fulfilling prophecy for them. \n\nYou think we should all should have sat idly by, while people with an ideological agenda victimize and terrorize our civilian populous, without consequence, and hide behind another regime that is doing the same to its own people? We didn’t wait around for some UN sanctions that didn’t work with Iraq, Iran, and North Korea. Give appeasement and peace a chance? The world tried that in back in the late 1930s, with disastrous results. Many of the world’s best and brightest people were lost during those times. “Death to the west, death to the Jew and Christian infidels”. You can’t live and let live with that ideology influencing millions of people. \n\nMuslims to a great extent have flourished in the West, and have been welcomed with open arms in Europe and N. America. How welcome are westerners in the Middle East? \n\nKilling is wrong, there is no disputing that with you. I also respect your opinion that Afghanistan was not justified. But I would be remiss to not only point out that it is just that; an opinion, and that you are in the minority on the matter. \n\nIf a nation suffers attacks on their civilian population, and then a nefarious foreign nation-state is harboring said people, well... you get what you get. \n\n",
"Yeah yeah yeah and osama was found being harboured in Pakistan. When’s the us invading them?\n\n",
"People need to stop letting Trump skew their spectrum of what's acceptable. The man is a god damn war criminal.",
"God damn George needs to start buying tailor made suits, that's baggy as fuck",
"When you're high on pure meth I assume making incredibly detailed art comes easier.",
"The term Tea Party didn't come around until 2004, but the principles around them, and the predecessor groups date back to at least the 70's. Hence I said \"future\".",
"Unfortunately that was in style at one point.",
"I mean, he was not rejected from *an* art school though. He was rejected from *Vienna's* art school. He shot for the moon and missed. Instead of accepting for landing among the stars he went a different direction.",
"is this satire? this is really good satire.",
"Man... Never thought I'd miss George Bush... There we are",
"He was always a frat boy - but compared to Trump he’s no longer a Freeking Moron.",
"Ok, but in this case he is criticizing his technical skill, which even in art can be objective.",
"Mind giving me a list of the terrible things he’s done?",
"Heh. I know nothing at all about art, but the styling of his self-portraits reminds me a bit of Alex Colville's work. Maybe it's just me.",
"He became a Death Star ",
"Diplomacy with terrorists and those who openly sheltered them? Hahahaha. \n\nAnd Saddam sheltered terrorists, too, and used chemical weapons against his own people. He’ll all of a sudden start listening to reason? Hahahahahaha.",
"As someone born in the late 90s, Bill looks ridiculous here. Can't believe that was *a* style, much less the one the president would adopt.",
"I feel like he is just trying to recover from the horror he has committed. ",
"That is not even good enough to be hanging in a dirty motel",
"There is a theory that Hitler hated the way humans treated animals so much that he wanted to wipe them off the face of the world. He knew the easiest way to start this plan was to pit other humans against each other. Basing hate on race was an easy way to go about it.",
"It's crazy how much popular opinion of GWB has turned around in recent years. ",
"Yeah, I'm not a Bush supporter either (am Canadian lol) but it takes much more skill than I have to paint like him and a helluva lot of balls to display it. You go, George!",
"The whole concept of the critic is inherently pretty silly.\n\nTo take on that role as a profession either requires a great deal of humorous self-awareness, or such a lack thereof as to be seen as a joke anyway.",
"I don’t think he ever wanted to be President. He just paints now and I think sells some of his work? I think he probably had a real dream and being President was nothing but daddy’s wish. ",
"ABodlutly impossible To know. \n\nImagine the world without 9/11\n\n\nGood luck ",
"well, you don't say no to the president. It's just rude.",
"I fucking love his paintings. He should have never been president. Own baseball teams, say funny shit and paint crazy paintings. ",
"Comment number 1,000 bitches",
"I was thinking about his bathroom painting only yesterday. I heard some great commentary on it a year ago:\n\n'Think of being the President. Everyone is around you all the time, ensuring you are safe. The only time you are truly alone is when you go to the bathroom, look up at the mirror and give an unfiltered expression'.",
"Don't be fooled by his gooberish personality. George W. Bush was as corrupt and calculated as they come. The man invaded Iraq on false pretenses to enrich his peers. All of his policies were conceived in the furtherance of special interests.\n\nTrump is a saint compared to Bush, not the other way around.",
"I wish Hitler’s mom would have supported his passion for art a little more",
"I was born on the 5th. One fucking day earlier and I'd have had every birthday off from school.",
"It doesn't suck, oddly.",
"We know now that Saddam was posturing with his whole kicking out the UN Inspectors, because he was afraid of Iran. But like in the 90's when Clinton bombed Iraq, he was bound by the rules of the treaty he signed after the war with Kuwait. \n\nIt looked like a duck, quacked like a duck, and walked like a duck, but in this case it wasn't a duck. ",
"TFW invading Poland is easier than drawing",
"You didn’t answer the question: under what false pretense did we invade Afghanistan? We were pretty clear, give up bin-laden or we’re coming to get him. Get in our way, and we will kill you too. \n\nTo answer your question: we did invade Pakistan, the night Obama gave the order to raid the compound. That was a military invasion against another sovereign nation-state. We defeated their air defense system and avoided contact with a numerically superior force to carry out the capture/assassination of a known terrorist. Why occupy another country when you already have what you came for?\n\nEveryone knew they were slipping back and forth in the lawless mountain region between Afghanistan and Pakistan. When we would get close they would run to Pakistani territories. When Musharraf’s people got too close, they would slip back into Afghanistan. It came as no surprise to any intelligent person that he was living hidden in a compound in either country. Musharraf would not have held on to him or protected him. He was too pragmatic for that. \n\nHad the Taliban just turned him over, they might still be in power today, free to victimize and repress millions of Afghani citizens and the largely autonomous mountain tribes.",
"Definitely scarier. NK is a joke for 99% of the whole situation. 1% \"well that dude *is* crazy...\" But with 9/11 and terrorism in general we had been hurt really bad and lost a lot of people and it truly changed us. The fear of that happening again was real. NK? It's just eye-roll worthy.",
"Lol no lies- Saddam had wmd- that’s how he gassed 200k Kurds. And there were 8 other UN sanctions Iraq was breaking. And if lies were part of it all, why not just fake a truckload of wmd to justify it to the world media?!?! ",
"Still some good presence of mind to realize what he was about to walk in to. I'd rather have some Late Night show host giggle about it, and SNL making cracks than my political opponents running ads with me saying \"Shame on me\" in them.",
"Really? I wonder why",
"> it is pretty much the exact same scaremongering as with NK in current times. \n>same shit \n\nExcept Iraq wasn't testing nuclear weapons and missiles every other week.\n\n",
"I would have expected higher but this is only counting very close relatives. When you branch out further the web gets very inter-tangled. There was a girl not long ago that connected all the US presidents but Martin Van Buren back to King John of England. ",
"The PR campaign has been working overtime here for the last six months or so.\n\nYes Reddit, the people love Bush, Hillary, Bezos, and are clamoring for an Oprah presidency. I'm outraged by the meddling...",
"No one says he didn't need to go. What people say is we didn't need to invade. Two different arguments. ",
"That's going on the fridge. ",
"So because he does art of soldiers and likes the troops means he can get away with starting a war based on a lie, that killed thousands of them in vain? He can get away with torture? The patriot act? Drone strikes?\n\nHis civility shrouds his moral depravity and 100s of thousands of deaths on his hands.",
"Exactly. The climate was way different and the propaganda was far more intense.\n\nTrump is just getting into a dick-waving contest with NK, Bush was *going* to invade and was trying to convince everyone to let him. ",
"You know, it's possible to dislike Trump's presidency and still denounce war criminals. You don't have to pick one. There is no first-past-the-post situation here.",
"To be honest, Hitler was actually really good at war. The issue came that he took way too many drugs. Once the withdrawals started hitting, he began to lose his ability of rational thought. Just about the time the holocaust began. ",
"Huh, downvotes... I never knew Bush was so popular...",
"My man looking crazy",
"I feel like doing cocaine with Donald Trump would be a pretty unpleasant experience. At the very least it would hopefully be really good coke though",
"Suits then: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/10/27/04/39C2094300000578-3877062-image-a-34_1477537308141.jpg\n\n\nSuits now: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/custom/Stephanie/Sam/GettyImages-530332830.jpg",
"Yeah he wasn't dumb, he was a very competent war criminal. Same as Obama, same as Clinton, same as Bush senior, same as Reagan.",
"Well, his artistic ability has improved a bit since last I saw his paintings. ",
"PS Battle potential ",
"\"Rarely is the question asked: ~~Our~~ Is our children learning?\"",
"Are you kidding? Donald trump on coke would be Donald trump at his best",
"Herbert Walker must be proud. ",
"I'm sure he'll tape it to his refrigerator",
"I never understood how \"Cheney really pulling the strings\" seems to have people letting Bush off the hook. Either W was complicit with the terrible shit that happened or he was in the dark and let it happen through incompetence under his watch. Neither are a good look and neither make him a good man or president. \n\nBush's inaction and avoidance of daily briefings while on vacation (sound familiar?) meant the administration ignored the intelligence community's warnings of al-Qaeda action.\n\nThe current destablization in the Middle East is firmly on his head. Stoking war for American profit and supremacy. Maybe not a coincidence that for-profit private military contractors were greatly expanded in 2002.\n\nThis brave new world of privatizing key government services also extended to prisons, and now America faces a key moral and economic crisis thanks to the for-profit prison system. Education, infratstructre, hospitals, Medicaid, all became juicy targets for the so-called benevolent capitalist who promises to run things cheaper and more efficiently (with some nice tax-payer subsidies, of course)\n\nThe PATRIOT Act began the massive expansion of spying on American citizens and strangled long-held civil liberties.\n\nTorture at Guantanamo Bay: under Bush's watch and more-or-less supported in his administration's rhetoric. Innocent people were held without trial around the world.\n\nBush insitituted the \"no-fly list\" which began American airport's systematic profiling of Muslim citizens, residents, and tourists.\n\nBush-era economic policies fed the worst economic depression since the Great Depression, which took years to recover from, crashed the housing market, saw record joblessness, etc...\n\nLike Trump, Bush's cabinet was full of former lobbyists. Several key members of which received good money ot promote things like No Child Left Behind, which has tanked America's education rankings worldwide through larger federal interference which places over-emphasis on standardized testing in order to get despereately needed funding, particularly for inner-city schools or those in impovershed rural areas.\n\nAnd I could keep going.\n\nJust because Bush seems nicer, more softly spoken than Trump doesn't mean that his *actions* didn't cause unimaginable damage and human suffering. \n\nThese were real, intentional policies and decisions. Was he \"doing his best\" for America with these things? People need to stop giving him some weird \"bumbling nice guy\" excuse like that makes these things okay.\n\nFuck Bush and fuck anyone trying to rehabilitate his image or apologize for his administration's fuckups. ",
"I never thought I would ever say \"Those good ol' Bush days...\"\n\nBetter painter than I am, but I don't know that I would present that to the Dalai Lama. Seems like he would appreciate it anyway though.",
"*In that vein",
"So you're saying he woulda made a fine Millard Fillmore?",
"When bush is a better option ",
"I've never heard that about Hitler, however the relatives of Goering did make that agreement and at least one went so far as to have themself sterilized. This was according to a documentary where I saw one of them interviewed along with the relatives of a couple other important Nazis. I believe it was called \"My Family, the Nazis, and Me\" if I'm not mistaken.",
"Nowhere near the quality artwork of our current president.",
"Ok cool. Whatever. Just don’t shoot ",
"Honestly, I think a lot of this is real people. It's just that you have to narrow down the demographics. Who goes on reddit, who would comment on this picture, who be informed about politics, etc. Most people in the US are pretty disengaged from politics, because its a shitshow full of people with almost no moral compass. As a result, the people engaging in this section are either really uninformed, or just take what the MSM tells them at face value. ",
"Oh don't do that. Don't play dumb.",
"He’s getting good.",
"Okie dokie",
"No, I’ve only heard that he’s used words that people don’t like. I haven’t seen a list of the genocides he has committed or the citizens he’s killed in drone strikes or anything like that.\n\nBut thanks for making it about me instead of backing up your own assertion. ",
"Needs more .jpeg",
"I love how pics can post an innocent picture GW presenting the Dalai Lama with a portrait he painted of him, and it becomes an anti Trump circlejerk. ",
"Yeah, I don't know. The voting patterns in the comments are pretty telling. Reddit is a big target for PR outreach programs. There's been a large effort to paint Bush as some sweet, benevolent old man and rewrite history. \n\nMaybe it *is* organic but it reeks of plastic.",
"When Obama became president my republican friends all told me \"You'll miss Bush one day, just wait everything is going to get screwed up\"\n\nAnd I always said \"That will never happen.\"\n\nAnd yet, here we are.",
"The perspective is pretty wonky on that one. Like it looks like he ran out of room and had to cram in the right side of the building, and the columns are also leaning apart too much.\n\nWhat I'm saying is maybe I'm not a fan of Hitler.",
"I absolutely hate that I think that looks nice. It's like something in a classical music video on youtube",
"Looks like South Park.",
"why do I feel like the dog needs eyebrows ",
"Hell yes. Guarantee if you took out 9/11 Bush would have been remembered as a fairly affable but ineffective one-term president. ",
"[It took me, like, 3 hours to do the shading on the upper lip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhv8Cfzv-04)",
"That's the most disturbing German Shepherd I've ever seen!",
"It's probably both.",
"That's a pretty nice looking one of his, most of his paintings aren't that special in my opinion.",
"While George Bush's policies weren't exactly the best (nor the man himself. Don't get me wrong, he's no super bad guy, but not the best.) , I'll admit he's got some talent.",
"Donald Trump at his best is still Donald Trump though...",
"I rather enjoy his paintings. ",
"I mean thusfar he was a much better choice than that orange sack of shit tied off with a ratsnest we have now. ",
"But for real though, can you imagine how history would have played out if he would have become a painter?",
"So you support war criminals if they're friendly?",
"Looks nothing like him. ",
"I do not like this painting. It's smug aura mocks me. ",
"I hate Bush for his corrupt administration and lying us into a war of aggression. \n\nHowever I think his speaking troubles are almost endearing compared to what we have to deal with now.",
"This is like in The Hunger Games when the champions are expected to cultivate some sort of talent or hobby since they no longer have to think about starving to death. Katniss got it right, having Cinna to do good work for her. \n\nBut I supposr GWB *is* kind of adorable with his amateur painting. Like, \"awww, Georgie, good job buddy!\"",
"You don’t know his potential when coked out",
"Shitty person, shitty president, and now shitty painter.",
"Huh I wonder why",
"Its because people are fucking idiots who forget history and let their emotions feel \"okay\" even about mass murdering morons who learned to paint.",
"Did he do the dead ones too?",
"Whatever helps Bush sleep at night\n\nWar criminal",
"hitlers art must be selling for a lot",
"The \"then\" pants were a little long and baggy, but the \"now\" style just looks absurdly tight all over to me.",
">people\n\nEh, I'm not so sure.",
"I don’t know about anywhere else but in NYC the bloodlust was real. The smoke from WTC was blowing over our houses for days and literally everyone you knew lost someone in that attack. Younger people might wonder how we went along with the Iraq war and the best explanation I can give is that we were temporarily insane. It was truly a surreal time looking back at it. ",
"I was so glad when we got rid of that idiot and I would be even happier if he replaced the current idiot.",
"because we are not 12 years old and remember that the entire country, and the world, believed Iraq did have WMDs. \n\nI know there is a narrative right now that Saddam was a necessary evil but I will never accept that fact. Saddam is the only person in history to exterminate an entire race of people. He was a horrible person. \n\nYes oil was involved but because of Saddams, and Iraq's, rivalry with Iran (which had WMDs) it was self perpetuating that Iraq had them too. EVERYBODY believed they had them and were willing to use them. And, to be fair, if you are accused of being a drug producer and the DEA comes in and finds all the ingredients and equipment, but not actual drugs, you're probably still a drug producer. \n\nNot to mention the actual WMDs that were found. Chemical weapons, which were widely used by Saddam to kill thousands, were in fact found and people seem to ignore that. ",
"“Took me like three hours to finish the shading on your upper lip”.",
"The disinformation largely came from [this group](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century), whose members comprised about half of Bush's cabinet.",
"Trump is a racist fat piece of shit. It's just not that hard to see. ",
"It’s a sketch of a building. Calm down. ",
"Yeah but he's not really talking about intent. These are unconscious decisions that W is making. If he didn't feel like it was \"done\" he wouldn't have given it as a gift. If he wasn't satisfied with this then we'd never see it. The fact that we can reveals his expression regardless of skill. At least that's what I get from this as someone else who is unexperienced with art.",
"If you are keeping up with his work in Africa, he is potentially an actual saint there. \n\nHis work is incredibly impressive and African's respect him for it. Anybody in the know even gives him credit for it. ",
"“An avocado.... thaaaaanks”",
"He apparently could not paint people which is why art school was not interested in him.",
"Iraq had *nothing* to do with that. Afghanistan, absolutely. Our presence in Pakistan in relation to taking out the Taliban, yeah. Iraq? No. It was a completely separate deal.",
"Only recently, having started hinge watch that show, do I understand a lot of Reddit humour.",
"That disinformation was all on the part of the Bush administration, they weren't under the spell of that, they created that. They did so through talking points on news programs, and through the speech you referenced by Colin Powell. And your last sentence is just wrong. There were plenty of folks who suspected it was bullshit and didn't think they were erring on the wrong side in opposing the war. There were protests. There were certainly people who though it was bullshit, but didn't speak up because they weren't certain, but that doesn't mean there weren't folks who actually *opposed* the war.",
"It's hilarious now to see the left loving Bush",
"i expect he'd best charlie sheen himself",
"He's also improved massively since he began. And in an interview, he said he was influenced by Lucian Freud, who is not the most accessible artist, so it's not crazy that he would appreciate Kahlo, too.",
"The more I see things about GW Bush he does seem to be a decent person who just had really bad decision making skills. \n\nHe made bad choices but he at least is a reasonable human being. ",
"I'm not defending Hitler, but fuck this guy. This artwork shows a lot of acquired skill and promise.",
"Sooo...Trump for 7 more years with the campaign slogan \"I can do better\" ",
"I dunno, I watched the whole thing at 30 or so years old, and am a New Yorker . My daughter was under 1 month old on 9/11. And republican in general. I was amazed at invading Afghanistan, and my jaw dropped at Iraq. Like wtf are you even doing? Couldn't you even plant some wmds to try to make it look a bit better? ",
"I think he wouldn't have been an amazing owner/manager of a hardware store, mechanic, or fishing boat. Probably not a country though.\n\nI also think he would have been happier. ",
"I think you have to be intellectually curious and actually willing to admit errors to improve consistently.",
"Is it just me or does the Dalia Lama have a strange resemblance to Maurice from planet of the apes?",
"He has done alot for Africa, probably more than any US president. ",
"Yeah and at least in Aus' case, the public wasn't happy about it. ",
"Upvote for your niche reference. ",
"It's an IASIP reference.",
"Annoying Republicans because a black guy is so much more qualified than them does not count as torture.",
"Yeah, he does say he didn't need to go. He specifically said things are worse off due to the removal of Hussein lower in the comment thread. I said a large reason that things are worse off are because of the military occupation of Iraq, not because Hussein was removed from power. So you're trying to go against me but you are arguing my point for me.",
"Who hasn't?",
"Nope. I really like art.\n\nAs I mentioned in another comment, Bush's work demystifies both the man himself and the office of the President.\n\nI enlisted under W. but spent most of my career serving Obama. There's no denying who's Presidency had the broader global impact. Obama mattered a great deal because of who he was, but his foreign policy was very much the continuation of the Bush Doctrine.\n\nBut what does any of that actually mean? It's too much for anyone of us to contend with. 9/11, two wars, Katrina; there was a radical shift in the public's understanding of what the US Federal government was capable of both domestically and internationally for an entire generation of Americans. Bush brought us all into the new millennium and it's been pretty fucking intense and often times incredibly cruel.\n\nAnd now he's artist, and his stuff looks like the art of the every man. That's a really big deal to me. He's a realist, and as such, it sheds a tremendous light on what it means, to me anyway, to face one's self having lived a life of scrutiny. This man is a villain to a great many people. They see his decisions as heinous and violent and cruel. He's been treated incredibly harshly, and not without cause, for \"our\" response to 9/11.\n\nBut I believe that art matters because of how it speaks to our humanity. Whatever you think of his policies, which are not his alone, America is a democracy after all, his artwork is beautiful and kind, and honorific to the spirit of our most tender and reflective selves. Everyone should be an artist. Everyone should have the opportunity to sit and think and reflect and create a world unto themselves. Whatever we may have done, we should always be given that chance.\n\nLike I said, I served under this man. If he was a monster then so am I. But I refuse to give into the loathing and the hate. I refuse to give into the pain and the hurt that I feel. And so much of that refusal: the love that I have for this world; is because of the redemptive power of art.",
"Huge protests, but they were barely covered. Also, Judy Miller planting some of this bs in the NYT.",
"I just really like the Dalai Lama and hate Trump. Trust me no conservative enuendo meant. :)",
"And IASIP means..? ",
"I mean, huge? That obviously subjective, but I went to pretty much every Iraq war protest in Boston, obviously a very liberal city. The biggest one probably had ~1,500 people. You're probably right that there wasn't enough coverage for what was, but compared to the post-inauguration protest, I don't remember it amounting to that much in terms of numbers of protesters. The two Black Lives Matter protests in went to in 2015 had more people than any Iraq war protest that I can recall.\n\nEdit: Occupy Wall St in Boston was also larger at its start than Iraq War protests at their peak.",
"He turned pro at 49 and won the U. S. Presidency two times in a row.\n\nHe kept a studio in the corner of the ballroom but had failed to develop as a painter.\n",
"Ha ha ha hes so relatable, I just wanna have a beer with him! I don't see why we all cant just get along? Its just a relatable multimillionaire ex-president, and the millions of civilians that had to exist in the way of war, they're such closed minded of people! We just want to continue world imperialism, and control!\n\nLike fuck that politics aside shit, its basic subversion of morals like life<oil, and lying to do so through false information given to us about Iraq's danger *cough* (of nationalizing the oil industry by kicking BP out years after regains praise of Assad 'keeping peace', or producing capital for the first world industries). Yay 'Humanitarianism', or '21 century neo-imperialism'!",
"Not sure why you were down voted. He ended it as a policy and basically set the country back on the right path, all the while Republicans were yelling about appeasement and apology tours. Nobody honestly thinks this \"ends\" these methods with all the shit the CIA does, but that's not the point.",
"Very good. I do like the slimmer line, even though the baggy years are more in line with my age. It just looks better! ",
"Fuck you, W. ",
"I'm talking about the one on Feb 15, 2003. I was at the one in Hartford CT and there were easily 10k people there. \n\nIt was protested all over the world and listed in the 2004 Guinness Book of World Records as the largest anti-war rally in history (from the wikipedia page here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_February_2003_anti-war_protests)",
"Do have to say Bill’s boots are pretty slick. I mean cowboy boots are such hick footwear, but sometimes I like them! These look like a lovely rich deep color, and the suit looks nice with them. Not garish and overdone like cowboy boots can look at times. ",
"I’m in my 50s and I think I simply can’t tell the difference. Changes are nuanced - these white trainers are ok, but those (looking very similar to my eye) are bad. How? I don’t see it! ",
"Oh! Like, the trousers are long enough he can kneel and still be ok! Amen break! I get it! ",
"People think this because for some reason they literally can't separate Iraq and Afghanistan in their minds.",
"> Diplomacy was an option.\n\nDiplomacy was not an option. The US demanded the Taliban hand over Bin Laden and his associates, and they said basically told us to get fucked. ",
"looks like he's been painting for South Park ",
"What's with war criminals thinking they are artists?",
"The context was obviously in the scope of our efforts to remove him, and I 100% agree with him. Things are worse because *the United States invaded*. You cannot separate the methods from one part of the result. Yeah, a magic wand making him vanish would have been nice, but you can't burn your house down because there was a mouse chewing on the wires and go \"hey that mouse needed to go.\"",
"It's interesting that I don't recall that, they don't mention Boston in the article, but I wonder how big the protest was here. I also think it's interesting to note that this came before the war actually began. Do you recall anything of similar extent during the war?",
"Hmm. I don't think you can confidently make such specific assumptions about how his artwork reflects who he is, although the picture you paint is quite detailed and compelling.",
"There were a few that year, but not as big, I don't think. There were continuous protests around the world through the start of the invasion, which is pretty amazing. You don't see that happen very often. I'm trying to find more info on the crowd estimates. ",
"Precious elderly war criminal with the blood of countless thousands on his hands. But he paints!",
"There was a really good movie about the story of the man who was trying to get him to pursue his artistic side.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/pNcUEraG5sA",
"I'm just thinking out-loud.",
"I do not like this painting u/martinaee it's smug aura mocks me",
"Yeah but it should be noted that Hitler's desire to create inanimate objects is more emotionally detached.\n\nWhile Bush painting a person's a face shows he's a more intimate artist.",
"\"He killed a million people and thousands of US soldiers but, he sure can paint.\" ",
"I love how Bush lied about WMDs and got the country into an illegal war in which hundreds of thousands were killed and thousands of US soldiers, then he paints a few nice pictures and says Trump is bad and Reddit loves him.",
"Ctrl + F: war criminal",
"I liked him [being] outside of politics in two different elections.\n",
"There were better ways to help them than collapsing an entire region, killing tens of thousands and and creating tens of millions of refugees. ",
"Well he also created the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression. But sure, he seems like a great president. ",
"Man, I can now remember with the glow of nostalgia back when GWB used to be our worst president in my lifetime.\n",
"Then he should have stopped them. He’s the president, not a little kid. There’s no way to excuse bush for what he did. He’s a war criminal, plain and simple. ",
"This revisionist history is really sickening. ",
"No kidding. It’s pretty fucked up how easily Republicans have managed to convince everyone that Bush was a good guy despite the fact that he’s a war criminal who created the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression. ",
"He is responsible for millions of deaths, rapes, and decades of suffering for the Iraqi people. But yeah, definitely a good-hearted genuine person. /s\n\nAmerican propaganda is on its A-game today on Reddit.",
"I actually had no idea! Thanks for giving me something good to research tonight!!",
"This picture says more about the character of the Dalai Lama than Bush. The Dalai Lama is an American stooge and nothing more.",
"Bush spent billions of dollars building a wall. At best he’s no better than Trump. ",
"And why did they believe that? Because of Bush’s propaganda and lies. Jesus Christ people, they literally admitted to lying about this. How the fuck is this revisionist history shit so popular?",
"I wouldn’t want a war criminal running my bbq",
"Saudis that were part of an organization operating largely out of Afghanistan.",
"This is so freakin cute look at their bromance",
"Doesn’t matter. He’s the president, not Cheney. Grow a spine. “Oh no meany Dick twicked him into torturing and killing thousands of people! Poor guy!”",
"“I can’t get the damned trees FUCK I WILL KILL EVERYONE IN THE WORLD.”",
"It’s easy to forget the sentiment that existed just before 9/11. We were literally days away from a major breakthrough on an issue that still plagues us today.",
"Except for the part where he started a $2 trillion war, tortured and killed thousands of people, destroyed out basic rights, and collapsed the economy. So unifying. ",
"No. It is absolutely not \"Bush's\" propaganda and lies. Everybody, down to Iran themselves, thought he had WMDs. \n\nIraq and Iran do not like each other. This is the narrative going back a lonnnnnng time. Besides stockpiles of chemical weapons, he had yellow cake uranium, nuclear grade centrifuges, and the rest of the equipment required for nuclear weapons. \n\nThat is a fact. Bush did not invent these things; the entire world knew it. That is why that war against Iraq was heavily voted for. \n\nHindsight is 20/20 but that the time, all the evidence pointed to all the worst outcomes. You're lying to yourself if you think Bush invented these lies. ",
"Damn I miss that guy. ",
"",
"Crazy how his sketches were denied and he failed to enter into art school apparently he believed it was because of a Jewish professor, and was a sort of catalyst of his hate..\n\nhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/art-news/7511134/Hitler-sketches-that-failed-to-secure-his-place-at-art-academy-to-be-auctioned.html ",
"When did Obama condone torture? That's nuts. How on earth did this get 50 upvotes?",
"I'm not talking about his presidency at all?? I'm just talking about him as a person currently. I don't care about his presidency at all.",
"W. wasn't the brightest of people, but by comparison, he's a Rhodes Scholar. ",
"I believe the most ridiculous shit without proof these days. Congrats on your shared birthdays ",
"You can suck my god damn balls!",
"Oh thanks for clearing that up. I guess the Clinton administration lied about that too then...",
"Eh a lot of reddit is rather young. Remember at this point if you turned 18 when he left office you would be 27. If you didn't pay much attention to politics and the time and the post bush economy seems normal you can see why people think he's the cute grandpa he seems to be trying to spin himself as.",
"Thought I'd show you what goes on daily in todays society...\nhttps://i.redd.it/omidgx6aejb01.jpg\n\n",
"It's also the way the world worked up until the modern era.",
"Or just even more trumpian than before",
"Nah he would get the best shit yours would be cut with a filler that would probably cause braid damage to save him some cash. ",
"He ran for President. Nobody put a gun to his head and told him he had to run. He knew the gravity of the position he took before he took it. It was on him to make the right decision. Doesn't matter how many people you have breathing down your neck, when signing that piece of paper is literally sending thousands or millions of people to their deaths, you say no to peer pressure and do the right thing. He did the wrong thing. That is what he will be remembered for. Not painting pictures for the Dalai Lama. ",
"As soon as I read this I knew exactly what picture I was going to see. Made my night seeing it anyway...... I don't get out much",
"It's both. He painted over the original",
"Uh, no, Reddit is just too lazy to learn the consequences of his actions, and instead judge him by stupid pictures on the internet. ",
"We found out he was more of a puppet and if he and his wife actually ran the office we would have seen a very different 8 years. ",
"\"It took me like 3 hours to shade your upper lip.\"",
"It doesn't matter if you care or not. He is forever those things and has impacted more lives negatively than positively.",
"W O O S H",
"Really genuine good-hearted guy who started the forever war.",
"What?! Subbed!",
"I feel that it would have been appropriate to veto it, or better yet, voice his concern that such a sweeping bill should not be rushed into in the wake of a disaster. Why deflect the blame from Bush as though he wasn't 100% behind it?",
"I don't know why you think I was attacking Bush. Why are you deflecting blame from him specifically?\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Xp9SiLSIg\n\nThose with an ear for the facts will recall Bush at the forefront of the concept.",
"I mean, nothing in the post is related at all to this person; how petty and obsessed are you over them?",
"I only have a very basic education in art, but I've always thought that his style was one of introspection and self reflection. I don't like a lot of the things that Bush did, but everything that I've seen leads me to believe that he has a lot of regrets and that he's taken some of the criticisms to heart, even if it's now that he's out of office.",
"So basically another Jimmy Carter?",
"There was no way to remove Saddam that did not involve military action. So you indeed you're not seeing the overall complexity of the issue, because you're still attached to an idea \"Saddam had to go.\" Even though given the outcome, maybe that simplistic idea was not a good one.\n\nAnd I know it is hard to see what I'm trying to get at. Because Saddam was obviously a bad motherfucker. So the reflex is to automatically assume that removing him is naturally a good idea no matter what.\n\n \n\n",
"“Hey bruh, I painted you”",
"I totally agree. I think it would be cool if they did a one day viewing every year on Holocaust Memorial Day. It would be a very classy way to allow them to be seen by the public. ",
"I never said just wave a magic wand, lol. I specifically stated there are more methods than military intervention to remove a tyrant from power, and the way the United States did it was the wrong way. Why are you trying to insert words into what I'm saying? Just read what I typed and stop trying to argue against things you assume I am saying",
"“I...uhh, I love it.” :/",
"I never even imagined I'd ever say this but, I miss George.",
"The man is a decent artist.",
"Picasso painted every day. They weren't always good and when asked why he put so much time and effort into it, he responded, \"I put the effort in because one day one of these will be great\" ... Not comparing Bush to Picasso or anything but you gotta respect the willingness to progress",
"That’s fine but any president is going to have nasty memes made about them. Pretty sure there were even a few made about the last guy.....\n\nThe far Right and the far Left share the same fault. They both assume the other side is stupid. It seems to have gotten worse since 24/7 cable news and the internet have taken hold. ",
"Yeah you're right and I'm glad you realise that. The media is doing it's job to keep the people so divided. They are to blame for a lot of this, and it's by design. A divided people is what they want, so many are being manipulated and they need to think for themselves.",
"Y’all eat ass",
"> Ah yes, the good-hearted genuine war criminal\n\nSeriously, is everyone on here a teenager that doesn't remember anything that went on or something?\n\nThey doctored information to convince us that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, and used that as a pretext for a war that many (most?) Americans would have never wanted - and many still didn't want, even at the time.\n\nCosting many lives, trillions of dollars, and destabilizing the region in a way that led to the growth of ISIS.\n\nHis father, president H.W. Bush before him had been the Director of Central Intelligence - there's no way that W. was just some patsy that didn't know what was going on.\n\nAnd that's not to count the growth of electronic surveillance of all Americans that was continued and expanded under Obama.\n\nIt's bizarre that - supposedly liberal leaning Reddit - often comes out with comments supporting president Bush.",
"I thought the Dalai Lama was a lot older than that. Though he does have arms like my grandma.",
"GW helped create the bloodlust when he went on TV that night and declared 9/11 an act of war.",
"...You wanna source that or what? and where are upvotes coming from for a demonstrably false statement I wonder?",
"Hitler could have been an amazing painter but he chose the easy path.",
"He wanted to be a painter but was rejected by the Academy of Fine Arts Vienna. At that time in the 20s modernism was the thing and his paintings looked like something from the 1800s.",
"That's one of those hindsight's 20/20 scenarios. At the time it made sense, later it was abused.",
"His paintings have a distinct south Park style. ",
"I have a different recollection. I don't remember being afraid at all about Iraq. It seemed pretty clear that GW was using 9-11 to meet his goals in Iraq and that it wasn't based in reality. I thought Powell's speech was full of unverified speculation. Also, the US was demanding something of Iraq that was impossible to prove (namely that they don't have these weapons). Proving a negative (that something doesn't exist ) is near impossible.\n\nSo- I suspected it was BS, and I realized (correctly) that erring on the wrong side was, in fact, a bad idea. ",
"Half of the people on reddit weren't even teenagers when GW Bush president.",
"Thanks, Ken.",
"Okay nvm I just realized Hitler painted that, you guys are right the lighting and perspective look way off",
"We were monsters. We invaded an independent nation and killed scores of civilians because we were scared and because we think we're more important than everyone else. The human and environmental disaster we've unleashed on the people of Iraq is heinous. \n\n>but we had a lot of support for Iraq as well until we actually went in.\n\nSupport for the Iraq war never broke above 55% in the US. Also, globally the protests in advance of the Iraq war (Feb 15 2003) was the largest coordinated protest in world history.",
"Yada yada yada... Boom.",
"User name checks out.",
"You do know he’s following the lead of Churchill right? ",
"Agreed, people are always going to lean left or right and that’s fine. Diversity of opinion is healthy and necessary, it’s extremes that drive people apart. ",
"To his credit, he did call out *against* attacking Muslims in our country, and to withhold assuming Bin Laden were behind the attack until intelligence confirmed it.",
"Descendants are a small sub-group of relatives.",
"\"Confronting\" would've been a better description. ",
"How long did the Dalai Lama have to sit for that portrait?",
"They are naive and college aged. They know nothing of Bush except when they see him looking amiable in photo ops like this.\n\nHe was a cretin, responsible for the deaths of hundred of thousands of innocents, and he dragged the US (and NATO) into an unjustifiable war with Iraq.\n\nFuck him, he's a piece of shit and a war criminal.",
"Absolute clueless bullshit. Just stop.",
"Is that an original Hitler?!",
"I mean his first election was won off of \"He's the kind of guy I'd like to get a beer with.\" \n\nYes, he was an recovering alcoholic.\n\n\n",
"Dowehaveadealorwhat? Dealdealdealdeal!",
"But the painting looks like George W Bush",
"How could they. He was being harboured in Pakistan by the Pakistani military/government.",
"He's Hitler in other ways though, amirite?",
"The masses at home believe whatever their infotainment source of choice tells them to believe. It's sickening.",
"I made [this same joke]( https://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/1dv4ho/i_always_thought_wile_e_coyote_was_a_true_artiste/c9u7p0e/) about 4 years ago. Glad to see the IASIP karma stock rise so high.",
"Do you like it? ... It's very generous",
"Every GWB-positive post always has this comment. ",
"If your outfit isn't asphyxiating yourself, if your clothing is practical enough you can lift your arms above your head, you clearly can't keep up with 2018, dawg. /s",
"Wow his pants are super baggy",
"And he didn't get accepted at art school! ",
"CIA, of course",
"Thanks :) ",
"That doesn't look anything like the Dalai Lama. ",
"Truly ? Really ? \n\n",
"One of those relatives you really want to distance yourself from",
"He painted it himself? While I find that hard to believe and funny, that’s not a bad job ",
"Ok, so I don't like Trump and I do believe he's sexist and a self-proclaimed pussy grabber, but can you get a link for that? You shouldn't just quote something like that without proof.",
"I got to do this when I was ~8 and they sat me in the co-pilot's chair with everything turned off around me. It was awesome. No way in hell anyone post-9/11 is able to do that and that's pretty damn sad, but unfortunately necessary precaution.",
"Dead?",
"Would love to see someone try to Pawn Stars a Hitler ",
"Lousy Pres., pretty decent artist.",
"Big hitter the Lama.",
"Except for that part where he launched a war on false pretext, killing several hundred thousands. So other than being a war criminal, quite a kind soul.",
"Unless you’re a damn good painter, this seems like a terrible idea",
"depends on how early of his works they are reviewing but this is pure nonsense, the paintings are far beyond anything people getting into art school will do, there will be 1-2 people in class that are at that level or better.\n\"Hoping to get into art school\" yeah sure. His early works when he actually hoped to get into art school, sure, but the later ones, no way. https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-555b8a589374077c1b845f5edd44daae-c - thats easily final year art school level for a good but not exceptional student. Ive been in two and most people are crap as in any school. ",
"the face is pretty good, the cloth not so much",
"I love robot chicken Bush, hes the best",
"I guess Redditors are too young to remember Bush. It was not just his foreign policy that was terrible, it was his domestic policy. Like wanting a constitutional amendment against gay marriage, giving massive tax cuts to the rich and being [Anti-science](https://www.thenation.com/article/bushs-war-science/). How are those good intentioned? Can't excuse a person's actions because they are a puppet manipulated by others. Especially if that person is the President of the United States.",
"I think of them both as trust-fund, chicken-hawk, participation-prize presidents.\n\nBecause they both are.",
"Some people are republicans and can't get that deep into a thought.",
"You think he missed the joke? Or is it you fools that think this is underrated worthy.",
"If someone offered me a line of coke I'd be inclined to say yes",
"He wears glasses so that he can see everything he does not need.",
"•.•",
"I hope one day i can afford to mount a hitler on my wall",
"The Iraq War killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people including 5,000 Americans, left a million people either crippled or homeless, including 50,000 crippled Americans, and cost trillions.\n\nTrump has yet to do anything nearly that bad. Yet.",
"He deliberately lied to the US public to get them into the Iraq War!\n\nThat killed hundreds of thousands of people, including 5000 Americans - crippled or left homeless a million people, including 50,000 Americans - and wasted two trillion dollars, that's two thousand billion dollars.\n\nAnd Cheney walked off with a billion dollars in profit from it.\n\nI'm sorry, there's no definition of \"good-hearted genuine person\" that includes deliberately starting a genocidal war.",
"Heck, if you forget about WW2. Hitler wasn't a bad guy either. ",
"I imagine he would just spew conspiracies, which does sound pretty entertaining.",
"He actually killed his dog. He was worried the cyanide capsules he had wouldn't work so he tested them on Blondi. He was apparently distraught when he realised what he'd done. I can't remember the name, but there was a historian suggesting that's what made Hitler kill himself then and there, instead of waiting for the bunker to be breached.",
"Damn me too !",
"Maybe we should have asked Saddam nicely? The UN could have written him a strongly worded letter, that tends to do the trick. ",
"It looks like he got told to paint the actual person only by looking at his South park character.",
"What a special boy",
"It's so embarrassing when you wear the same thing you wore the last time when someone saw you.",
"I don't think he has other faces beside that one.",
"*leaning in and nodding*\n\nVERY NICE GEORGE I'LL TAKE THIS HOME AND PUT IT ON THE FRIDGE\n\n",
"-kenM",
"W is a war criminal. People forget.",
"Because it was proved that the evidence we had of WMDs was purposefully falsified. ",
"At first I was like \"Man he really messed up them eye brows.\" Then I was all like \"Oh shit, he nailed it there.\"",
"I'm sorry it offends you that I actually went to school for this. Don't ask questions if you're just asking them to look stupid.",
"Funny....it looks like Jesus to me.",
"Holy shit this guy is serious",
"Not initially.",
"Exactly. Someone out there is closely watching this whole Trump phenomenon and taking notes. They are seeing what works and planning to use it all again but without all the unforced errors. The next Trump will be much smarter and more competent than Trump. It’s a terrifying thought, but I’m afraid it’s inevitable.",
"> recognizing that a lesser talent does not diminish you as a person.\n\nI think that's where we disagree. Maybe not \"as a person\", but as a painter, or as a president, it does. ",
"^ stalker",
"You'd have to pay me to go to that subreddit, actually.",
"werd",
"How was the recession his fault?",
"Why would the Dali Lama hang out with a mass murderer worse than Osama Bin Laden? ",
"That's going right on the fridge!",
"If it weren’t for 9/11 he would have been an “alright”, status quo president.",
"Why was Hitler rejected from art school?",
"Hey look, it's one peaceful guy next to a war criminal.\n\nSeriously Reddit, you've got a fucking problem with celebrating murderers. ",
"I don't think you understand what woosh means.",
"honestly such a shame, his work is actually good.\nif only he became an artist",
"And human rights in North Korea!",
"lol",
"Let's be real in understanding that Dick Cheney was the one mostly responsible for Iraq...W was just the one stupid enough to get elected.",
"Looks like it could have been from South Park\n",
"Other people called it the \"Coalition of the idiots\".",
"So much coke",
"No way man. Art is subjective.",
"Yeah, that's a good reason to not show important pieces of history at the Smithsonian. lol.",
"Or just read Mein Kampf.",
"> Not sure why you were down voted.\n\nBecause he is objectively wrong. I dislike republicans, but let's not act like the other side doesn't have demons.",
"Gitmo is still open. CIA torture still continues. Nothing has changed. Obama condoned numerous drone strikes on civilian targets as well as NSA spying on Americans. Numerous \"terrorist suspects\" have been imprisoned without due process with his approval.\n\nSo sure, I'd probably agree that Obama is a bit better than Bush, but for all the lip-service, Obama did virtually nothing to end the legacy of torture and imprisonment. In fact, it grew in some ways.",
"> It was on him to make the right decision.\n\nYou vastly over-estimate a president's power. The president's power comes from how much congress and the house supports them. Without that support, you are just a figurehead.\n\nBush was probably closer to a puppet and just did what people like Dick Cheney and the like told him to. But we'll never know.\n\n>when signing that piece of paper is literally sending thousands or millions of people to their deaths\n\nDrastically over-simplifying it in an attempt to appeal to emotion. This isn't at all what it was. Not even close.\n\nIt is really easy to make these claims in hindsight. \n\n>Doesn't matter how many people you have breathing down your neck, when signing that piece of paper is literally sending thousands or millions of people to their deaths, you say no to peer pressure and do the right thing.\n\nThose people breathing down your neck can completely strip you of power and turn you into a lame duck. And then they can declare war anyway without your approval.\n\nBush was likely just a weak person doing what everyone else told him to do. And by all means, hold that against him. I sure do. He was awful. One of the worst presidents in this country's history.\n\nBut let's not pretend he is some \"evil\" person. Maybe he is, I don't know him personally. But the likelihood is low. Each and every one of us is easily capable of doing the things he did.\n",
"I assume you get accused of reading too much into things - sorry to jump on that bandwagon, but I'm genuinely curious.\n\n>Every thing we see in the work of art is intentional.\n\nThis statement in particular seems to frame your sentiment, and as such I find it hard to see any merit therein.\n\nIt's almost like you're asserting a direct link between a 'soul' or the essence of a person, and their motor skills, which seems flawed.\n\nI don't disagree that he's valuable as a contemporary artist - any form of expression from someone with an interesting life is inherently interesting itself, but without perfect coordination/mastery of language/perfect pitch etc, one can't claim that everything is intentional and left as such in the expression produced. Even the idea of perfection is, in practice, impossible, so it can only be used as an abstract concept and so 'perfection' and by extension 'clarity of intention' are blurred and unattainable, so that quite particularly strikes me as...off.\n\nEven the idea that his unconscious mind is in control doesn't allow for the boundaries of human physical limitations.\n\n>For him to call it \"done\" and to show it to the world, says to me that he wanted it to look that way.\n\nReplace 'wanted' with 'accepted' and you've pretty much got my viewpoint, and likewise Bush is just a person - how many times have you created something you'd consider perfectly intentional in such a fashion? More than 0?",
"Show me where Obama endorsed torture, please. No doubt there are demons, but on this one it's cut and dry.\n\nIf you can't do this, then delete your two comments, because all you're doing is adding to the misinformation and muddying the waters (maybe that's your goal).",
">Show me where Obama endorsed torture, please\n\nRe-read the comment I replied to and then my comment. You are misinterpreting things.\n\nHe claimed \"Obama ended torture on day 1.\" This is factually wrong. The torture is still continuing. This statement is the one I was referencing when I said it was wrong.",
"Yeah bad shit still happens. Where does Obama condone torture?\n\nThis is condoning torture:\n\n\"I would bring back waterboarding, and I’d bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding,\" said Trump in one of the debates.\n\nDrone strikes, NSA spying, lack of due process, these are terrible things, but they are not torture. You're not making an honest argument. ",
"You replied to \"The whole condoning of torture thing does kind of goes against that though\" with this response: \"To be fair, Obama did the same. Take that for what you will. Hypocrisy is everywhere.\"\n\nSo no, you did not reply with this about the day 1 comment.",
">Yeah bad shit still happens. \n\nYea, executive order to bomb civilian targets and arrest/imprison people without due process, and renewing the Patriot Act, is all just \"bad shit\".\n\nBy the way, this is the exact same shit Bush did. \n\n>\"I would bring back waterboarding, and I’d bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding,\" said Trump in one of the debates.\n\nActions mean more than words. I couldn't give two shits what a President says, only what they do.\n\nObama can to pretend he is against torture all he wants, but both through his inaction, and direct actions, nothing has changed.\n\n>Drone strikes, NSA spying, lack of due process, these are terrible things, but they are not torture.\n\nWhen they include arresting people, sending them to Gitmo, and torturing them, they do.",
">You replied to \"The whole condoning of torture thing does kind of goes against that though\" with this response: \"To be fair, Obama did the same. Take that for what you will. Hypocrisy is everywhere.\"\n\nIn a different comment. Not the one you commented to. You are responding to the wrong comment.\n\n>So no, you did not reply with this about the day 1 comment.\n\nIn the comment you respond to, yes, I did. I can even quote it for you if you want:\n\n>Obama ended torture on day 1.\nSorry, day 2\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_actions_by_Barack_Obama\n\n----\n\n>Because he is objectively wrong. I dislike republicans, but let's not act like the other side doesn't have demons.\n\n\n",
"Gitmo is still open and he half-assed trying to get it closed. Obama has ordered hundreds of drone strikes on civilian targets, torture is still occurring in gitmo. He hasn't even attempted to hold people Bush administration members responsible fro their crimes. Obama has allowed from extra-judicial arrests and detention of suspected terrorists, he renewed the patriot act, he greatly expanded NSA surveillance over citizens. \n\nBush might have been worse, but Obama isn't much better.",
"> nothing has changed\n\nWere you even alive when this stuff happened? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse\n\nHere's some facts on Guantánamo for you:\n\nDetainees currently held at Guantánamo: 41\nTotal number of detainees ever incarcerated at Guantánamo: 780.\nDetainees released under President Bush: Over 500.\nDetainees at start of Obama Presidency: 242.\nDetainees transferred, repatriated or resettled under Obama: 197.\n\nObama didn't add to it, he decreased it by 81%\n\nhttps://www.humanrightsfirst.org/sites/default/files/gtmo-by-the-numbers.pdf\n\nBased on this post, I don't think you're capable of recognizing context and nuance. Sorry kid, the world's not a black and white place.",
"Here's the permalink to the comment you replied to: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7ry8qs/george_bush_presenting_the_dalai_lama_with_a/dt0r92p/\n\nIt's clear as day. Now, if you even have an ounce of honesty in you, you'll admit you were wrong.",
"Done it. Won't do it again. ",
"He could paint buildings pretty well but his portraits sucked. Bush would have him beat there.",
"We never should have gone to Iraq the second time for sure. Obama couldn't seem to extricate us from it and everyone sucks his balls though. ",
"He ordered people tortured, labeled Iran, North Korea and Iraq the \"Axis of Evil,\" wanted to enshrine discrimination against gay people in the US Constitution, and made the US an international laughingstock. \n\nTake off the rose-colored glasses; he was a real piece of shit. \n",
"Well said. ",
"\"Child molestation aside, Jimmy Saville was a cool guy.\"",
"According to very sketchy media reports (from the same media that pushed the WMD BS).\n\nIt seems very unlikely to me that the worlds most wanted criminal was able to negotiate safe harbour after the fact.",
"Love for animals is pretty common in traditionalistic German culture, even today. A typical old time conservative in Germany will have numerous pets. ",
"It's the absolute least amount of worth a job could have for a society. ",
"lolwut\n\nHe intended to make that painting. How it looks is entirely dependent upon his ability to paint. But I didn't say anything about his soul, subconscious or notions of perfection.\n\nJust because it could have looked like a cat, doesn't mean he *intended* it took any other way than it did. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. You seem to be the one who's trying to read more into it than what is there.",
"So you don't think the US should stand in opposition to Iranian and North Korean interests? I mean Saddam Hussein doesn't run Iraq anymore so they graduated from that label but I have no problem calling the government of NK and Iran evil.",
"It only seems unlikely to you because you know nothing about that part of the world.",
"Are you against hostage negotiations? Honest question.\n\nThe whole point of a negotiation is to reach a better outcome than you would reach otherwise. The goodness or badness of the party on the other side doesn't change that.\n\nIf negotiation fails you move on the other options but why skip it entirely?",
"It was over 3 years after the invasion when he claimed responsibility, al-Qaeda initially denied involvement. The US, UK, and Germany all had intelligence showing it was AQ/Bin-Laden like the day after 9-11. After the US started the air campaign the Taliban said they would turn him over if the US stopped bombing and provided evidence he was involved. ",
"Ya for sure it's possible that it would have led to nothing. But the US rejected the possibility of a resolution outright and went straight to full scale invasion.\n\nIt's not rational to reject negotiation because it might not work out. Given that by every conceivable metric the war has made things worse, i don't see how one can justify not trying.",
"They did try you moron...you are either very young and just don't care enough to actually study the subject or you have a terrible memory. Neither of which is an excuse for your ignorance.",
"well, art is about expression of ideas, and critics develop those ideas by responding to them. Is an exchange of ideas not valuable to a society?",
"There was absolutely never any attempt at negotiating the transfer of Bin Laden by the Bush Admin.\n\nInitially the Taliban said if the US would provide evidence to the Afghan supreme court they would try him in an islamic court. The Bush admin. issued its own ultimatum demanding unconditional surrender and said they wouldn't negotiate. This was all like mid/late September.\n\nAfter the bombing campaign started in early October the Taliban made a concession and said they would give Bin Laden to a neutral third nation rather than try him in an islamic court if the US would stop the bombing. Bush again declined. The article in the comment you responded to is literally \"Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over\" The invasion was a few days later.",
"Negotiation implies there is an outcome wherein both parties walk away. That is an unacceptable option for the united states - their world view is utterly incompatible with ours. The only outcome that assures afghanistan will no longer pose a threat to the security of the united states was regime change.",
"Oh he wouldn't give a shit about any of that. Not giving a shit about torture aside, Failuretoreport is a really cool guy.",
"Snarles Barkley",
"https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/07/what-the-ashcroft-hospital-showdown-on-nsa-spying-was-all-about/\n\nNo... no one with any conscience or legal acumen ever felt it was appropriate",
"Correct, as a courageous leader, he should have veto'd it. You're not suggesting that he's hiding behind congress, are you?",
"Umm... presidents did speak out against slavery. Some of us even celebrate them for it.",
"That's great man, too bad you play CS GO"
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"I hope they clean them up. I will give them hell and call my senator if they do not! ",
"Good intentions with horrible execution. How do you clean that up after it's over? What a mess.",
"This is just starting to get out. Once it's viral, all poles will be climbed upon tonight. Father's, lock up your daughters! ",
"Who's the mayor? Kevin McCallister? ",
"More like, mothers lock up your sons! Death by Snu Snu!!!",
"If the Eagles win, they'll all be clean tonight.",
"https://i.imgur.com/Hc65njS.gif",
"Can’t riot in the streets, if you’re too busy slipping on matchbox cars ",
"He doesn’t look like he’s enjoying his job..",
"This man's face says it all. ",
"Everyone does realize Crisco will just degrade on its own.",
"Sports fans are fucking weird ",
"Why the fuck are they doing this?\n\nThis is a perfect way to get infrastructure replaced. Local politicians here are about as corrupt as they get. ",
"They fell down a *slippery* slope",
"Sigh *unzips*",
"Right. Because win or lose the people of Philly are going to riot and he knows there’s little he, and the rest of the dept, can do to stop it. Because the people of Philly are such assholes that they think the proper way to celebrate or show their frustration of a fucking football game is to destroy the town the team represents. To fuck up businesses and personal property. To climb fucking street lights. It’s beyond idiocy and the PD has to do something to prepare for it, like putting crisco on streetlights. \n\nEdit: I’m aware this happens in cities other than Philly. Those aren’t the cities we are talking about in this post about a guy in Philly putting Crisco on Streetlights. Just because it happens in other cities doesn’t make it alright. Please stop with that stupid argument. \n\nI’d also like to point out that’s there are a lot of good people in Philly. A prime example would be this dude in the picture, who’s going out and trying to protect the place he lives.",
"This seems like it should be an *Always Sunny* plot point",
"But there putting a ladder right next to them? What?",
"Do they realize crisco is flammable? ",
"Upvote for \"matchbox cars\" instead of \"hot wheels.\"",
"The upper half of what he has done is all that is necessary.\n\nThe lowest 4 feet being ungreased doesn’t aid in climbing...\n\nAlso, fuck everyone’s clothes going to work this week. It’s not like you brush against a pole everyday or on purpose, but you know it happens a lot ",
"Come to Philly... where all the poles are greased!",
"It will ignite with a bic lighter? Or is a torch needed?",
"Raccoon grease! Make a fortune!",
"Honestly, when I lived in philly I never went outside after home games. Literally the most dangerous time to be out and about because of all the drunk people leaving the stadium and being horrible. ",
"I support this",
"Kinky ",
"Stick newspaper to it, bic lighter after that ",
"Ahhhh, then we’ll flip cars over instead!",
"\"Challenge Accepted\" ~ Eagles Fans",
"We’ll grease those also.. and the road so you slip when trying to flip it!\n\nEdit: I was told by my lawyers I needed to add that I own a large share of the grease company.",
"I cant imagine the cost to the city to prevent a bunch of hooligans acting like morons. Downvote me to kingdom come but anyone who cares that much about a sports team to act so absurdly in victory or defeat is a loser.",
"I've seen movies that start out like this...",
"Yeah but You're both wrong, they were micro machines",
"Some people will take this as a challenge. \n\nThen add alcohol. \n\nGood luck lol. ",
"This is so hilariously off base. Most cities have riots after big sports wins or losses you twat",
"You see a lot of guys that enjoy greasing poles?",
"Philly wont be winning so his job is safe",
"I work with about a half-dozen guys from Philly they're all loud mouthed jagoffs and are a very accurate representation of the type of people you're talking about.",
"Agreed. It is sad we have to spend tax money to prevent morons from hurting themselves and others in the process",
"It's like putting a padlock on the door of a glass house located in, say, North Philly",
"The [Royal Sonesta](https://www.sonesta.com/us/louisiana/new-orleans/royal-sonesta-new-orleans/48th-annual-greasing-poles) hotel has been doing this for 47 years during Mardi Gras.",
"Is he even a police officer? ",
"Lol and all of them are fucking idiots. \n[heres the report on the pats last year](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/06/did-they-riot-in-boston-see-how-patriots-fans-reacted/amp/)\n\nAny city that riots is full of idiots and assholes. Reasoning that every city does it so it’s ok doesn’t make it ok. ",
"That's just immature",
"They better, just because fuck the Viqueens",
"No I don’t think he is. I read it as he was but I don’t want to go back and change it.",
"It seems like that would attract ants.",
"They going to hang themselves from them after they lose? Don't know any other reason to climb them.",
"Wow you don’t care about things, you’re so cool",
"There's a difference between caring about something and rioting like a moron. ",
"Ss...sou...rce?",
"Who's gonna keep the idiots from now *licking* those poles?",
"Its Philadelphia, isnt this a daily occurrence? ",
"No, most of them don't.\n\nAnd any that do are apparently full of morons.",
"Not in January in Philly. ",
"I dont care enough about a sports team to go out and get drunk and act like they are going to in philly tonight. Look up the guy taking a grey goose bottle to the skull. Now that im thinking about it we just won a world series here in Houston and handled it with a lot of class. Maybe and probably its just Philadelphia. Im guessing thats where you are from. Either that or you are just super into getting wasted and tearing shit up city wide because a bunch of overpaid grown men didnt perform well enough for you. Bite me.",
"No mispelled Philadelphia.",
"People will try to climb, get hurt and sue the city for greasing the polls.",
"Wasps, then.",
"Its the pole-eece",
"Don't be so hasty. Wouldn't it be better to see them lose the Superbowl again?",
"No, because I don't want them to even be able to say they went to a home Bowl.",
"See above comment :)",
"Pretty sure it's from the movie Year One with Michael Cera and Jack Black.",
"How about leopards? Antelopes?\n\nI guess I’m just really not sure what lives in Philadelphia.",
"i get it!",
"Shitty Philadelphians, alongside with a few non-shitty Philadelphians.",
"If it was Kevin it'd be adhesive",
"The actions of drunk philly meatheads aren’t exactly governed by reason. ",
"Don't watch it. It's the movie that ruined harrad ramius",
"Seems like more of a challenge than a deterrent.",
"How about rats? Mice? Pigeons? Cockroaches?\n\nIf you leave a box of donuts on the floor for a few days, what comes to eat them?",
"Shitty Philadelphians.",
"You mean Harold Ramis? And no, I enjoyed it. I think if you go in not expecting a masterpiece then it’s a fun movie to watch.",
"But mention Deflategate in Malden...",
"The worst part about Philly, is their response to this... is pride.",
"Nah son, being outside in Philly after the 08 world series is still today like top 5 most incredible things I've experienced in my life.",
"Philadelphians are pro at climbing greased poles.\n\nhttp://www.phillymag.com/news/2017/05/22/watch-italian-market-grease-pole-competition/",
"I foresee a new problem if this grease is flammable.",
"Is it wrong I kind of want to see this happen now? Just to see if it actually goes up.",
"Juno Temple.\n",
"Greased Lighting, Gooooooo Greased Lighting",
"Baby proofing the whole city so that the citizens don't hurt themselves.",
"Great movie.",
"That’s because it also his job to clean them again the next day",
"Just put those little dome things on them that you use for squirrels. ",
"They are only going up like 10ft. Two drunks with the climby drunk on their shoulders. Jesus, these days just fly some drones around, get some photos of the aggressors, and look for them the next day.",
"There is *The World Series Defense* which, while baseball related not football, does mention how Philly sports fans get reeeeally aggressive. Also, they make an alcoholic drink called \"riot juice\" or something.",
"I saw this in Italy once as a kid. Telephone pole greased up with lard and the object was the get someone on your team to the top and toss down the jug of wine and leg of prosciutto. \n\nFirst guys to attempt it work on removing as much grease as possible and it goes from there. \n\nSince there’s no wine and prosciutto at the top, there’s really no point to trying to climb a greased up pole.",
"Because he knows the Vikings are going to win 😃. SKOL!!!!!!",
"It was crazy. There were like 50 of us on top of a fire truck that was trying to move through a sea of people. That was both one of the dumbest and most memorable nights of my life",
"I’ve seen this in Italy. It’s a blast to watch.",
"Rofl",
"So basically like driving in GTA4.",
"They need to bring in some Russian riot police and let them do whatever they need to do. \n\nI bet things will never happen again. ",
"Fuck off, Philly gets a lot of shit, but it's mostly unwarranted. They bring up the 50 year old Santa incident, while other fans stab and shoot each other pretty regularly. \n\nVancouver rioted hardcore when they lost the Stanley Cup Finals, but you don't hear shit about it years later.",
"More like, stop adding apostrophes to pluralize nouns!",
"TIL caring is a binary choice between \"not caring\" and \"rioting\".",
"Found the reformed light pole climber",
"It's Always Greasy in Philadelphia. ",
"Lol so much Philly hate in these comments.\n\nFuck all yous buncha fuckin jabronies.",
"Why can’t white people protest peacefully? \n\nIf this were black people you’d have the National Guard in the streets not the Crisco Cops.",
"I still have my micro machines ",
"'One bridge having, piece of shit town.'\n\nThis quote has become so handy as a New Yorker, describes the Philly complex perfectly.",
"\"Micro Machines! Where're they gonna take you!?\"",
"It's all Philadelphieans have.",
"if heated to flash point yes just as any shortening or cooking oil, but its not just going to burst into flames if some puts a lighter up to it, lol basically its flammable in the same way wax is, here is a [Crisco candle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsY-d44SpeQ) and here is [how a candle works](https://home.howstuffworks.com/question267.htm)",
"Judging by your responses in this thread, you're the exact hooligan we are insulting. ",
"if heated to flash point yes just as any shortening or cooking oil, but its not just going to burst into flames if some puts a lighter up to it, lol basically its flammable in the same way wax is, here is a [Crisco candle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsY-d44SpeQ) and here is [how a candle works](https://home.howstuffworks.com/question267.htm)",
"Watch out for the light poles with a car battery and jumper cables attached too.",
"As someone who has lived in Philly for 38 of my 42 years, they'll find a way to climb them anyway.",
"You fuck off man. I always assume everyone in Philadelphia is a carbon copy of one of the characters from Its always Sunny.",
"Or woman. I dont want to discriminate.",
"https://home.howstuffworks.com/question267.htm",
"I live in Denver now. But I was at broad and Chestnut watching the game it was like the thickest concert crowd except it went all the way down past south street. I remember the cops were just filming people climbing up and stealing the banners and laughing at them. And all the dumpsters got flipped and lot on fire.",
"I’ve never been in a riot, so no. You’re just nerds",
"I would think it'd actually work pretty good.",
"are you serious? which i hope you are not. the ladder is there temporarily while they grease the pole so that they can grease it higher then people can reach... ",
"If they get past the grease, look out for that swinging paint cans ",
"Waste of time since the Vikings will prevent this nonsense.",
"Do eagles fans really street lights after a loss? How odd.",
"Well aren’t you a fucking prick. ",
"Lol Eagles fans don’t need to worry about celebrations tonight",
"Please don't act like Philly is the only town that takes to the streets after winning at sports. ",
"Well I respect emergency services because it’s more important than a football win for a team that makes 100x more than the people they represent. Drunk fuck",
"I’m not. It’s stupid everywhere. This is just the one that’s happening now.\n\nI’d also like to point out that taking to the streets, and rioting are two different things. Please don’t minimize the idiocy that is rioting after a football game.",
"That seems a little harsh",
"Micro machines were completely different.",
"To the contrary, he looks like a guy who will sneak home with an extra bucket if government lube...I mean grease.",
"That'll teach the government not to lube erect poles.",
"Philly is known for having asshole fans, the kind that throw d cell batteries at players, boo injured opponents, throwing snowballs at Santa... You're still a bigger asshole",
"Yeah, I highly doubt that game is even close.",
"I agree. It’s a harsh reality but I’m from SF and I’m fucking sick of people who try to race the ambulance. People have no respect. What if the firetruck was really needed to save the lives of a few people but these morons cost those people their lives? In emergency situations seconds matter. Why is okay for a mob of people to do this but if it was only once guy dancing on a fire truck you would all be on my side? ",
"Can’t not read this as “Near Field Communication Championship”\n\nToo many damn tech videos. ",
"Whoa take a breath pal. Count to 10 or something. ",
"Actually, we are a community of people from many different backgrounds. Your background just happens to be \"asshole\".",
"I think you mean Herald Remus. ",
">but you don't hear shit about it years later.\n\ncause philly does it far too often that it's a stereotype now",
"I don't disagree with your point, but theres a lot better ways to go about saying it instead of \"I hope you fall and crack your head open\"",
"Best philly story is hitchbot the Canadian hitchhiking robot that toured Europe and Canada and was in the process of hitchhiking across the US. It made it as far as Philly where the good citizens promptly beheaded it\n\nhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2015/08/03/us/hitchbot-robot-beheaded-philadelphia-feat/index.html",
"Wait, they're called the Minnesota Eagles?",
"It was a joke lol",
"Why don't they just sequester them to one small part of the city?? Put up barraccades, close off streets and shop fronts, bring in food and drink vendors, and set up some portapotties. Yea it wouldn't be cheap, but if you make it cool enough you can get them all in one place and under control. ",
"Or flammable...",
"I don’t go around beating up lone men with my group of friends when my football team loses. Fuck Philly and fuck you, dumbass drunk. ",
"There’s also a better way to celebrate a win. ",
"they might riot if they lose, or if they win. Sucks to be a Philly Police officer/ civil servant ",
"I don't drink, I hate Philly fans, I just think the dude going around the internet projecting his problems on other people is an asshole",
"Do Eagles fans climb poles when they lose, or something?",
"It's because he got some on his coat.",
"Oh man, someone’s opinion on the Internet is making me shake with rage. Thanks for that input.",
"Scotland banned alcohol inside football stadiums years back and it actually reduced incidents after the matches by a substantial amount. \n\nPeople who were drunk before the games have sobered up by the time the match was over. ",
"I remember way back when I lived in Northeast Philly there were tons of police vans and cars sitting in a parking lot by my apartment. I talked to one of the cops, and was like \"Hey, uh, is everything okay?\" and he basically said that if a riot breaks out downtown they have tons of police ready to go from the outside so they don't end up getting stuck in the middle of a riot... whether the team won OR lost.",
"I hope this is in the next season of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, The Gang Riots",
"You seem mad because you keep commenting and calling people drunks, you angry fucking loser.",
"It’s not like the message is gonna sink in either way, so you might as well at least get a little frustration out.",
"flip flip flipa-delphia ",
"BRING OUT THE RIOT PUNCH",
"What if most of the fans are firemen/firewomen? \n",
"Been that way for years here. \n\nWe win: shit gets destroyed\n\nWe lose: shit gets destroyed\n\nAll while paying for extra cops and creating a ton of litter and traffic\n\nYay sports",
"Fuckin' rights there bud.",
"lol do you know what crisco is?",
"r/nocontext ",
"This is why we can't have nice things.",
"Just as sad as tide removing tidepods from shelves due to tide pod challenge.\n\nIf little timmy swallows to many marbles, than maybe its for the best.",
"Idiots are jynxing themselves. Now I hope they lose!",
"I weep for humanity.",
"r/ThisIsMyLifeNow",
"From galoob!",
"I suppose they plan on cleaning them? ",
"Like all cities go through ridiculous behavior when their teams win major games, but there's something particular about Philly and Eagles fans. I live/work here and if they win tonight, I have already arranged to NOT be in the area for the Super Bowl because it'll be ugly either way.",
"Didn't read the title fully. I do know what Crisco is.\n\nShould've gone silicone-based. This'll be good.",
"Fight Milk!",
"Primitive town ey? ",
"“Challenge Accepted” ~ *Vikings* Fans",
"Most people who are paid to grease huge poles don't actually enjoy it.",
"If you could kindly remove the ballsack from in front of your eyes and clearly read why I’m even commenting. People not giving a fuck about emergency services. ",
"This is more Philly than Philly ",
"Honest question, what would that do? Just liquefy the crisco?",
"Those drones would get absolutely wrecked",
"Ju'st s'top! Plea'se! ",
"Theyd tip all the portopotties like every time",
"Nah, ..... getting them ready for all those philly fans mom's ...",
"> He doesn’t look like he’s enjoying his job..\n\nYeah, but your mom will ....",
"Ifitdoesntsaymicromachinesitsnottherealthing.",
"Anybody who knows how crisco works knows that's way too much crisco",
"Why do people keep saying that Philly fans tore up the city? Looking at reports it said that two cars were overturned, a vans windows were broken and some windows at a bank were broken? Is that cool? Obviously not. But you idiots are trying to make it sound like there were widespread riots and looting going on...that didn't happen.",
"Clearly you have a hatred of the city for your own reasons, but stop acting like this is Philly being a terrible city. This is in no way unique to the city, not even remotely. They do this every year in New Orleans for Marti Gras. Chicago nearly rioted when they won the World Series, and things like this happen pretty damn routinely in any college football town after bowl games or rivalry games. ",
"If there's a will, there's a way",
"The videos of the drunks trying to climb those poles will be better than the game itself.",
"I don’t see how this is jinxing them. I think they plan on people climbing on poles and breaking shit regardless or whether they win or lose. ",
"I was wondering where ours fox news on this. \n\nJesus, it's a planned event with counter measures being deployed",
"I love my city. GO BIRDS",
"God damn, Philly doesn't fuck around does it? Lol",
"Yeah because that never happens in any other city",
"People climb poles after their team loses?\n\n(Eagle fans are gonna burn my karma score to the ground :)",
"https://youtu.be/6bZk7BIdCns\nI just searched philly fan grey goose. This is why said reputation is your burden to bear. Fast forward to 47 seconds for the good stuff.",
"That guy is the most Philadelphia motherfucker I've ever seen.",
"I'm sorry to hear that, an unfortunate part of being from Philly is the divide between the genuinely kind, interesting people and all the meat heads with big egos. I for one do not find the rioting acceptable and most people that love Philadelphia don't either. Philly has a lot to offer with arts culture and music and it's a great place to visit especially if you love US history, but yes our fans are probably the worst part about the city.",
"yet no one in this country can be fucked to riot for political reasons. ",
"CAAAAAAWWWWW!!!",
"actually its charlie kelly",
"You realize it’s because they have to baby proof the city because of grown men playing a game?",
"Usually in Vancouver they RIOT and burn the city down causing millions in damages and associated costs for investigation and charges filed. \n\nHappened twice already lol",
"“He greased all of the poles that night....except one.”",
"Sounds greeaaaatt.",
"Wildcard bitches! ",
"do it while holding high proof liquor, set fire to self \n",
"Found the Republican.",
"> but it's mostly unwarranted\n\nyour police department is literally greasing telephone poles lmao, also everyone knows vancouver riots, it's reported on every year. they just don't grease their telephone poles so can't shitpost report about it\n",
"Lol it's the second word in the title.",
"I say let them climb. Stupid games and all that. ",
"They should have started about 5 ft up with just a light spray of PAM. Much more entertaining.",
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"Again...not tearing up shit city wide. Am I saying people weren't acting like drunken assholes? No. But for some reason it sounds like you think this is a Philly thing when it's obviously not. This stuff happens in just about every city after they win something unfortunately. I'm not condoning It, just saying it's not unique to Philly.",
"God's work.",
"Knowing Philly they'll just try and sit on them.",
"Like i said i just assumed it was one big episode of its always sunny.",
"I think it would be funny to loud speaker Bill Burr’s rant during any Philly ruckus riot. https://youtu.be/3jMhoGUiIkk",
"junotemple on insta(shitty automod removing my links) \n\nr/junotemple on reddit \n\nfor all you one handed redditors ",
"Now all I can think about is the wildfire fighting planes and helicopters flying overhead, dumping vast quantities of lard across the entire city.",
"( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)",
"Completely unnecessary. SKOL!!!!",
"It's def not far off.",
"i never brush against poles though, what kinda stumbling you doing on your way to work mr magoo?",
"Fuck you, yinzer.",
"Your first post makes it seem like it's strictly a Philly thing.",
"Once you get it lit it isn't going out, I'm excited to see what happens after the playoffs now",
"If you've ever gotten Crisco on your hands, you'd know that once they touch the greased pole, they are not going to be climbing it.\n\nYou need soap and water and a good deal of scrubbing to regain any sense of grip, none of which Philly fans are even familiar with, much less inclined to do.",
"What they ought to do is only grease the tops of the poles, like from the 10 ft. point up. This'll injure more people more quickly and therefore pull 'em out of the riot.\n",
"This is a thing in philly?",
"They'll need to take all the precautions they can. It'll help Law Enforcement keep everything under control tonight when the eagles eventually loose tonight. ",
"Right. Because they’re the fucking city that’s trying to mitigate damage to the city by putting crisco on their poles in the picture that I commented on due to inevitable rioting. ",
"grease that pole, piggy!\n\nI wonder how they decide who goes on pole-patrol.",
"Exactly",
"Or a person at the top of the lamp posts flinging paint cans on ropes down at people.",
"Because Philly fans are the cesspool of football fans. Even worse than raiders fans ",
"Because you're trying to get all the drunk people home as fast as possible. What, are you going to lock every fan in the stadium until every person leaving can pass a breathalyzer?",
"You’ve never seen a grease fire?",
"# In Breaking News:\n\n*Johnny the Pole Polisher was caught today red, err, white handed while in the act of polishing his pole on 52nd street. His ladder, his pole, and his polish were taken into custody today where they await bond to be set. The \"pole polishing scourge of Philly\" will get the justice he so deserves on the 32nd of Optember, the Polish holiday for pole polishers everywhere...*",
"Okay but why tho",
"Fuck that twee “robot”.",
"Theres no need for this. #skol",
"I was arrested for that very same thing when the Cubs won the NLCS. True story.",
"I’ll nod to the Philly knock. I was pointing out that they were only greasing like 10ft. That is an easy distance to avoid touching any crisco if you have a group helping you.",
"If there's gonna be a riot, you know I'm gonna be blasted on grain alcohol",
"Lol this is insane. Just because I comment on one city’s lack of civility doesn’t mean other cities don’t also riot. It also doesn’t make it ok for those cities to riot. Do you hear yourself??\n\nIf you’re trolling you’re doing a great job and you got me. If not, how can anyone be so short-sighted?",
"> I cant imagine the cost\n\nLard relatively cheap.",
"I only know [Crossfire](https://youtu.be/rCwn1NTK-50?t=9)",
"Eagles fans are the worst. Having to spend tax payer money to grease light poles proves it.",
"Anyone who willingly restricts the movement of an emergency responder needs to be locked up in jail for a week. ",
"Lube the tube.",
"Yeah every single person in Philly is an obnoxious asshole. Fuck you and your hateful stereotyping. ",
"I'm imagining that would turn it into a giant fucking tiki torch. Cisco liquifies and the newspaper acts like a wick. Wicked idea.",
"#You'll get caught up in the-",
"Videos of one, but they're typically in a pan or on a stove. ",
"That shit's flammable, you dipshits.",
"the fact that other cities riot has no bearing at all on how stupid the people of philly's actions are when they do the same *every damned time*.",
"How am I stereotyping when I’m talking about this guy trying to protect his city? I’m also talking strictly about the idiots in the city who think it’s OK to riot after a sporting event. That’s it. I’m not talking about all of philly, I’m not talking about all of the Eagles fans, I’m talking specifically about the Eagles fans who think it’s acceptable to fuck up their city as a form of celebration OR an outlet for their frustrations.\n\nIn this on instance. I also stand by any other type of rioting when it comes to sporting events but that’s not what this post is a picture of.",
"https://i.imgur.com/PuLQa7r.mp4",
"Slide, Eagles Slide. ",
"The issue is that it’s not just the fans from the stadium, it’s the fans throughout the city watching at home, at sports bars, etc that win or lose are going out to break shit.",
"Yeah but how many light poles are there? You can disect this anyway you want. The point is, and this is obviously not limited to Philadelphia but Fan(atics)s in general of sports who burn a car or 2 or engage in a spirited game of knock the dumbass off the light pole. Having to protect a city from itself over a sports game is the height of absurdity. Live and breathe something more relevant and wortwhile is the point. I think that the women marching all over the US for their rights and freedoms is more newsworthy then the fucking Philadelphia Eagles. And sports is fine. Im not against sports. There are bigger fish to fry if you know what I mean.",
"Found the asshole from Philly.",
"Dude, he's a fucking idiot, or high, or both. Disengage while you're still sane.",
"It’s not to prevent injuries, it’s to prevent costly damage to city infrastructure",
"[Don't forget throwing up on a little girl at baseball game.](https://deadspin.com/5519469/a-blow-by-blow-account-of-the-vomiting-phillies-fan)\n\n[Throwing shit at Santa clause](https://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/santa/philadelphia.asp)\n\n[And others](http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/washington-redskins/10-times-philadelphia-fans-were-truly-worst-philadelphia-eagles-philadelphia-phillies-philadelphia-flyers)",
"Crisco Cop <~~~> Coco Crisp",
"It's not really willingly restricting it so much as people being so tightly packed that they can't effectively get out of the way. And fire trucks are huge so it displaces even more of the crowd than something like an ambulance. ",
"\"Most\" is an absurdly strong word here. Almost as absurd as prefacing it by saying someone else is \"hilariously off base\" and calling them a twat. ",
"Then a little old lady leans up against the pole for support and slips right into the road getting her face smashed in by another old lady distracted driving by seeing this guy grease up these poles like he's remembering his first time. Then where are we?",
"Riot isn't the worse thing they do",
"Its happens in a lot more cities than just Philly.",
"I work just outside Philly...I hate it\n\nThe Philly subreddit is just awful too\n\nPreston and Steve are the only good things about Philly imo",
"Then you were not willingly restricting the emergency responder and I have no complaint. ",
"*Keep lubin’ those poles Lou!!!*",
"I audibly laughed when I read this and your username. A very level headed response for a guy named /u/DoctorFury",
"spoken like someone who has no idea how fun a riot can be",
"Hitchbot was a stupid idea in the first place. It wasn't even a robot!",
"Anything is a dildo if you're brave enough.",
"Someone post a pic in 2 months of that dirty sticky poll",
"I’m Canadian man. ",
"I will fight every redditor in this thread",
"Don't worry, after the eagles lose there will be no need for Crisco lights.",
"I guess they're gonna rage, win or lose",
"Says the guy from Philly. Thats fucking rich.",
"Once he's done with the poles does he become Greased Up Deaf Guy ?",
"[Ladder that night](https://i.imgur.com/guiXkmI.jpg)",
"Did you just throw in the f word because it makes you edgy or something? Why not just say asked?",
"It rubs the lotion on the pole",
"!redditsilver",
"As a foreigner my only Philly reference is from Bill Burr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jMhoGUiIkk",
"Looks like my old store manager from a long time ago. DJ that u brah ? Out yourself",
"I appreciate you backpedaling away from your hateful stereotyping, ",
"Once that Crisco starts to polymerize, it will be a bitch to clean off. ",
"You ever hear of baseball's infamous [Ten Cent Beer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Cent_Beer_Night) night disaster?\n\nThere was a riot in the 9th and the home team deployed with bats to protect the visitors, the two teams ending the game unified in something of a fighting retreat from the mob",
"It is then being a terrible city. Just because other cities also riot doesn’t mean Philly isn’t terrible for rioting, it just makes the other cities terrible too.\n\nAlso, wtf does “almost rioted” mean. Either you did or you didn’t. That’s it.",
"\"Win or lose, we're gonna riot.\"",
"Micro machines commercial https://youtu.be/TzbUPfoveok\n\nI think he must of been related to the scatman. ",
"> but there's something particular about Philly and Eagles fans\n\nThere's definitely something particular about Eagles fans, in my opinion, but I really don't see that kind of shit show behavior in most other sports fans in Philly. It's not like they're all innocent either, but I see more grief on Philly in general from the shit more Eagles fans have done. \n\nSome of the most friendly moments I've had in Philly with strangers were at Flyers games, even between myself and other teams' fans. ",
"Seems like a good beginning of an “It’s Always Sunny” episode",
"So true. So, so true.",
"Lol we're awesome",
"No, win they’ll riot, lose they’ll riot. I think it’s the Philly way. ",
"Climb when we lose, climb when we win. Climb cuz it’s third Tuesday of April. This is Philly, we have no logic. See the pole, climb the pole.",
"Lol right. Keep on trollin my dude.",
"I have not! It almost sounds made up! Only nine arrested? That's mild compared to an old firm game In Scotland with no booze! ",
"I want to see this made into a movie.",
"Boring question, how do they remove it? Or do they just leave it on and kinda season the pole? ",
"Calling me a troll is just your way of dismissing what I'm saying. You said \"the people of Philly are assholes\" I called you out and you said \" no of course I didn't mean all people in Philly\" which is a perfectly fine thing to say but not what you said originally. Again, thanks for clarifying, try doing it the first time you post something making blanket statements about a whole city.",
"Plus the lithium in the grease will work with the crowd pacification program (CPP).",
"lol, then rent some hippos to lick the grease off.",
"Cleveland won their first championship in like 70 years or something in 2016. The worst thing that happened was during the parade, LeBron dropped 8 or 9 \"fucks\" on live tv and some guy ate horseshit off the ground.\n\nEdit: ground, not groung. I gotta lay off the horseshit.",
"People hundreds of years ago didn't have the internet and needed to see crazy shit somehow ",
"They're all bought out by big crisco",
"The fact that they have to do this is sad",
"Pretty much every liquor store within 10 miles of a stadium sells liquor pouches these days. ",
"Right. Because I’m not actually talking about every single person and anyone with any sort of reasoning can see that. Using generalizations instead of specifically naming the assholes who are breaking their own city apart is a lot easier and easily understood. If your a person from philly who’s not going to go out tonight and riot, that makes you a better person than them.\n\nOn the other hand, Philly is notorious for being shitty sports fans. As evident by the city telling the citizens that live/work downtown to close early and lock everything up and get security cameras. \n\nEdit. I’m also done with this conversation. I respect that you’re trying to protect the good people of the city from a blanket statement. ",
"These are different are *Philly* fans we're talking about here",
"Well, the fans left as soon as the police showed up, so most of them got away.",
"##Cross Fire! \n\n#CROSS FIIIAAAAH!",
"He’d rather be home - greasing his pole. ",
"Oh damn, this is why I’m glad I live west of Philly. Close enough to take the subway in, far enough to not have to deal with this crap.",
"Everything is a dildo of you try hard enough. ",
"He just looks so thrilled to be doing his job.",
"Grease pole climbing, jug of wine, leg of prosciutto... I had no idea there were Italian rednecks. ",
"It's a reference to an infamous Riley Cooper quote ",
"It's not that hard dude, all you have to do is add is one or two \"some fans\" in there. Whatever, it's more of a reflection on you than the city anyway. Be better in real life buddy. ",
"This person, Chelseaqix, is dangerously insane! Who ever heard of greasing the road, the cretins would just slide the cars wherever they pleased! \n\nWe should be securing our ve-hicles in place using R.T. Stickyfinger's Industrial Automotive Adhesive! Sticky. Secure. Permenant. Grab your tube today, just for God's sake don't get it on your hands. (paid for by the Council for Adhesive Advancement...fuck grease) ",
"Man. I’m not the one rioting in real life, and you’re telling me to be better?",
"That comment from the reporter. \n\"I went with $2 in my pocket. You do the math.\"",
"We also get searched going in, I still manage to sneak a bottle in but it does catch a lot of folk",
"The guy that threw up on the little girl was from New Jersey.\n\nThat Santa Claus was actually a fan they picked out of the crowd. He happened to be drunk as shit and *thats* why people threw snowballs at him.\n\n",
"Hah!\n\nYou guys at CAA don’t know anything! Try your next oil change with with IAA (industrial automotive adhesive).\n\nScammers and con artists. Would you wanna use Adhesive the next time you had anal? Nope. Grease. Would you wanna watch a movie titled, “Adhesive?” Hah! Hell no. Grease? Beautiful. \n\nAdhesives have no practical purpose in the real world.\n\n(Paid for by Grease for Congress)",
"Where are you getting this info from? Philly is pretty far down on the list of cities that riot because of sports. Sure there's always a few drunk people leaving the stadiums but what your saying is not commonplace.",
"Sgo birds",
"Sports and religion, opiates of the brainless masses",
"I don't know about in the U.S. but in Mexico, people put prizes on the top of greased poles for people to climb, it's just a bunch of dudes rubbing the grease off trying to climb until eventually there's no grease for one guy to make it and take the prize.\n\nIt has a name, but I forgot.",
"I mean, it's grease...",
"Golly gee willikers, what kind of person would climb a light pole to celebrate their team winning?",
"Easier to just do it while covered in Crisco after trying to climb the pole for 5 minutes.",
"What-aboutism is the lowest form of debate. Can you go back to being done with the conversation? You don't have to try to save face with me, I know you'll do better next time.",
"After the eagles win you mean. \n\nfrom mpls with love",
"This seems like it has the potential to backfire. I could definitely see people taking this as a challenge. ",
"There wasn't a need to spend the cost in the first place. The city is wasting their money. Philly does not have more of a history of acting out after sporting events more than any other major city. ",
"Labor cost.",
"Yes, but Crisco burns very easily for when they burn the city down after a loss ",
"Greasing a light pole? Scoundrel!",
"Alcohol is a hell of a drug. Combine that with a large crowd, and it can get out of hand fast. \n\nSource: Penn State alum ",
"Obligatory -*Even with context*",
"Not really. People see a picture of the city wasting their efforts for no reason like this and they see an easy oppurtinity to shit on a city because they can.",
"Are all eagles fans strippers?",
"Lost our QB and we're still winning. You seem nervous.",
"*Crisco Cops* huh...I wonder what else these guys grease up...",
"Pretty easy to make anything up, huh.",
"r/brojobs",
"Sounds like EMS will have a fun night.",
"Whatabout, Whatabout, Whatabout......",
"I feel like I'd rather let people climb on those than clean all that shit off later.",
"Yeah but when its the thing we’ve been talking about it kinda fits. I’d argue attacking a persons personality is a lower form. ",
"2 people form a ladder to lift their friend. Job done.",
"Uppy-pole-slidey-winnums. ",
"Screw that Copenhagen shit, Skol is the only dip worth putting in your mouth.",
"So many people making assumptions about a city because of other people's comments in this thread. Philly is not known as a city that riots after a sporting event more than any other major city in the US. This is one giant circle jerk. ",
"There are people in this thread defending Philadelphia by saying that other teams also have raucous sports fans. Growing up in the general area, I can tell you there is a certain trashiness with Philadelphia sports fans that is not reproduced amongst the fans in other major cities. ",
"Not really. You can justify anything by saying other people are worse. And I'm not attacking your personality, just pointing out that what we say and think reflects who we are. But it doesn't make you a bad person for saying what you said, it just shows that your reasoning is flawed. I also said I trust you won't make blanket statements again, but I could be wrong. You should go back to being done with the conversation. ",
"Ok buddy 👍🏻👍🏻",
"I feel like this is going to happen now, and you're going to have a visit from your local franchise of monopolized force.",
"Sure but how long does it take? It would suck to lean up against a pole a week later and ruin your jacket. ",
"\"See the pole, climb the pole.\" That's my ex's mantra.",
"So *that's* why beer is so expensive in stadiums...",
"They’re greasing light poles. I don’t think it’s me making up anything. ",
"They should be leaving the bottom of the pole alone and spread the grease at the very top.",
"Then why grease them up?",
"Retards*",
"Welcome to the year 2018. ",
"riot punch",
"Is this the TPB crossover title? ",
"Yea but it's so much fun.",
"The original rednecks, tbh.",
"They'd see the man greasing the pole and start berating him with questions on why he's doing it, and then take it as a personal attack on their own ability to climb the pole, while Frank and Charlie get distracted by a nearby hot dog stand that happens to be oddly close to the cafe the waitress works at. Meanwhile Mac, Dennis, and Dee are figuring of ways to show this goddamn pole greaser that they aren't intimidated by his obviously personal slight on their climbing ability. But somewhere in the middle after Mac and Dennis have had repeated failures, they blame Dee (fucking bird deserves it), and she storms off to do bird shit. Charlie and Frank come back after Charlie had severely harassed the waitress while Frank stood there messily eating a foot long hot dog. They ask how Mac and Dennis have been doing and they just tell them that Dee fucked up the whole plan and they might as well just go back to the pub. \"Dudes. Bail?\" All-\"Yup, bail.\"",
"It'll only prevent climbers for the first hour or so after the game ",
"Obligatory: [Bill Burr on Philly](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jMhoGUiIkk). He loves the place :)",
"Popebot did very well in the city though!",
"[GREASE ME UP, WOMAN!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9_jIa2WADc)",
"This is quite literally a contest every year in the Italian market festival in South philly. So there are professionals in the city. ",
"Best defense against Crisco Kids",
"Better grease the poles in Minnesota ",
"If that means more Green Man, then yes!!",
"You mean realistic when you're flooring a car from a dead stop? ",
"I feel like the city is wasting their time doing it.",
"You know what the best part about this job is, bill? *unzips fly*\n\nFrank how many game-days in a row are you gonna make that joke? Remember what Nance said about all the oil-based stains on your jeans? \n\nStart using the margarine that was provided by Nance before she fucking sees you man, remember the make-up you had to wear after last time? You know what the main ingredient of make-up is man?\n\n*fucking crisco, man. Run*",
"they're passionate fans",
"Do they climb when they lose? Because the Vikings are winning this one ",
"It's Always Slippery in Philadelphia. \n\n10:00 AM on a Saturday\n\nHe Mac, can you think of a way to keep the city calm after the big game?\n\n The gang greases up every pole in Philly ",
"It's more a \"Challenge accepted\" than a \"Problem solved\".",
"Best scenario, no one climbs the poles. How are they cleaned off? Will the be cleaned off?",
"Won't it be hard to climb a greased pole while wiping the tears out of your eyes because the Eagles lost and you still live in Philly.",
"How sheltered of a life do you live. That shit in 08 was fun.",
"What i don't get is why they're greasing the part of the pole you can touch while just standing. Ideally they'd just grease them at 6ft and above",
"Spoken like some moron who has no idea that your riots cost people money. I bet you'd love it if some fuckstep came rampaging through your living room, kicked a hole into your TV and theb threw all of your refrigerated food at the wall as hard as they could. ",
"Ya this dude's method in the pic, you just going to have drunks standing on shoulders. ",
"Do you guys give up?!? Or are you thirsty for more?!?",
"You underestimate the level of scumbag in filthadelphia.",
"Just electrify the street poles. Problem solved.",
"That sounds like a challenge",
"Throw enough sweaty bodies at it, she'll go. ",
"Holy fucking shit. I saw that. I was at Broad and Walnut. What a night. ",
"I mean he's jerkin' off a giant pole.\n\nWhere do I sign.",
"I've got a secret for you, it's the booze not the game.",
"Idk, man. I've had the same experience with people from Philly. Maybe you don't notice it because it's your normal? That's not to say that there aren't people like you are describing.",
"''If you climb a light pole you're a loser''. I bet you're real fun to be around...",
"They also open the tunnel for the opposing team to leave. \nhttp://itsalwayssunny.wikia.com/wiki/The_World_Series_Defense",
"It'll definitely burn, but if the objective is to climb the pole, you just made it much harder. ",
"Kevin would have just soaked the poles in Kerosine\n",
"Why do they climb poles?",
"Well, apparently the NFL decided that Minnesota will be going to he Bowl this year, so there’s that.",
"Oh hey, it's the [world's fastest talker guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X4Fy8YqysY) that YouTube keeps recommending to me.",
"Easy to keep your micro machines when you still live in your parents' basement",
"https://i.imgur.com/Hetrx.gif",
"Greased lighting.",
"Fuck you ",
"Ok but why are they not the Grease Police",
"First time they woke up saying it’s time grease some poles I bet lol",
"They'll climb them anyways, then sue cause the crisco was slippery and made them fall.",
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Moschitta_Jr.",
"It's easier to climb a pole than dig a hole. ",
"My boss is a Vikings fan and he's going to the game tonight, he told me he got a notice or something to not wear a purple jersey tonight for his safety. I don't know how true it is, but it wouldn't shock me.",
"Hopefully they are coating some with coconut oil instead of Crisco for those of us who prefer non hydrogenated oil on our poles. ",
"Well how would you like to answer the question, “ what did u do at work today,?” \n\n“Greased a lot, a LOT of polls.”",
"They're not going high enough, they'll just stand on a friends shoulders and jump on ",
"[That link, without the redirect](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2015/08/03/us/hitchbot-robot-beheaded-philadelphia-feat/index.html).",
"Because WE FUCKIN WON!\n\n\nUnless the other team got the ball across the line more times, then it’s because FUCK THOSE GUYS! (And you can see their jerseys better from up there.)\n\n\nWe don’t fuck around when it comes to balls and lines in Philadelphia.",
"Because riots get nothing done. And you haven't been paying attention if you don't think people are taking to the streets to protest. ",
"> **Property damage** Damage to the field of Cleveland Stadium; bases stolen, never returned\n\nThat's not the usual way to steal a base!",
"God bless Philly.",
"Nah, that's just Philly.",
">Damage to the field of Cleveland Stadium; bases stolen, never returned",
"If they grease themselves up it will just cancel out.",
"Yeah because sports riots never happened before this year",
"A tub of Crisco, much like a bowl of vegetable oil, does't really burn all that well by itself. But, if you soak a bunch or rags or paper in it, they will burn quite well. Not explosively, but well enough to start your charcoal grill or do some some damage to a streetlight.",
"Sicilians are the rednecks of Italy.",
"They do it and suddenly WW3 has broke out.",
"Why do Philly fans climb the polls after the Eagles lose?",
"Just put anti climb paint on them. ",
"Everything's a..\n\nNevermind. ",
"Win or lose, Philly will be in flames.",
"Not entirely accurate. Losing is such a regularity that losses don't lead to riots, only thrilling victories cause such outbursts. \n\n\"Oh no! It looked like we were going to win it all and then we lost. Drat! Oh well. Time for several of our players to go off and somehow be way awesomer playing in other cities.\"\n\nPhiladelphia.",
"Win or lose, Philly will be in flames.",
"City of Brotherly \"Love\" ",
"Damn, ISIS got reddit accounts now? ",
"this works to keep squirrels from climbing certain bird feeders. Pretty funny to watch them slide down.",
"#this is why we do it https://youtu.be/6bZk7BIdCns",
"That's how you know you live in a Shithole. Populated with people too stupid to know it's just a game and doesn't really matter or do anything for them whether the team wins or not.",
"you sound like you have no friends to celebrate with ",
"https://youtu.be/6bZk7BIdCns",
"8balls. Crossing lines. ",
"1- attempt to climb (multiple times if need be)\n2- roll in dirt and it sand \n3- repeat as nessecary. ",
"Reince Priebus?",
"Hey hey, let’s not give people the wrong idea. Our cocaine is mediocre at best.",
"I live inside of a CVS so frankly I have it coming. ",
"The real question is, why does the city care about people climbing poles?",
"They'll have to find something else to jump off of after they get CRUSHED BY THE VIKINGS!! ",
"I love these reddit soapbox stands. Dude go outside and experience life a bit. ",
"No. I fucking grew up had a family and started spending more time with them. Dick. What else you got.",
"Micro machines are what were used in the movie.",
"Filthadelphia, filled with disgusting degenerates. -Giants Fans",
"That man has such a stare off into the distance expression that says: \n\n\"I've spent 25 years in Philly, two active tours, had several children, started my own cheese steak truck and here I am greasing this pole. Yup. I'm a pole greaser.\"",
"I'm referring to the babysitting. Tide Pods, blah, blah, blah",
"Stupidity.",
"I wonder if he's the dude who fired off fireworks that whizzed right past my friend's head when we were out there. Or the people ripping trees up by their roots, ruining the street for a while.",
"You seem mad. ",
"my family watches sports, your family sounds lame",
"If you knew the history of the Eagles you would be a little more understanding. It's tragic to say the least.",
"I was visiting Chicago when my brother finished the Navy boot camp. We visited down town and got stuck in grid lock.\n\nAn ambulance had its sirens on and vehicles moved out of the way the best they could, but didn't really have anywhere to move to. Once a Lane finally opened I was amazed to see 3 assholes pull out in front of the ambulance only to move half a block.",
"This is going to makes for some interesting videos later on Reddit.",
"Yes 'don't block the ambulance' is a Reddit Soapbox Stand.\n\nLogic.",
"Because if the poles are damaged the city has to fix them...",
"I'm intelligent and I like to watch some basketball. u wrong ",
"We also throw a bunch of wristbands onto the ice at a hockey game when the flyers started losing. And I think they were given out in memorial of a recently dead hockey player. I use \"we\" loosely, I'm from Philly but hate sports.",
"... say it aint so joe, PRIDE? They ought to be tarred and feathered ",
"Andddd they’re on fire",
"This is incredibly funny. ",
"Yea go outside and potentially let people die by hindering emergency vehicles because you're drunk, merica! ",
"We know what city is getting vaporized first when the robots take over.",
"Huh??? Is this a thing? Why? Sports fans please kindly explain,this is just oh so bizarre?????? Lol",
"oh shit...i forgot that was going on tonight...well...they can't greese all of broad street. When the Philly's made it to the world series back in 2009 people stormed city hall...or that might have been when we lost...at some point in time we stormed city hall.",
"Whatever I still have my riot punch atleast ",
"I read the title as \"to prevent eagles from landing on them\" and I was really confused",
"[Literally a past time... ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buffalorising.com/2017/06/the-48th-annual-grease-pole-festival/amp/) \n\nI know it is Buffalo, but this is normal for us.",
"It's their city too. You don't think a busy night at the opera strains city resources as well? Old people slipping on ice and shit.",
"🤢",
"City \"of\" Brotherly Love",
"I was hoping to see a Mardi Gras post on this. I know a girl that does it every year. Love the costumes.",
"Or they will buy bread and a blow torch and use the poles to make toast",
"> Unless the other team got the ball across the line more times\n\nAlways disrespecting kickers. The highest scoring non-kicker of all time is Jerry Rice at 37th, with less than half as much as #1. The only other non-kicker with more than 1,000 points scored is Emmitt Smith at 53rd.",
"Also Pukemon is dead",
"Biggest regret is getting rid of mine. Also regret getting rid of the cast iron Voltron ",
"\"There were like 50 of us on top of a fire truck\"\n\nWhat?",
"Whoa whoa, the field goal is definitely a line with vertical lines at the ends and there’s still a ball. Fair play!",
"Well look at \"Mr. Fancy Doesn't Drink His Lunch\"",
"You don't \"lean up\" against anything downtown in any major city.... it's covered in something always.... ",
"nah, I disagree",
"TIL that It's Always Sunny is a documentary",
"If watching sports is the sspectrum of lame you are working on good luck to yiu and yours.",
"I think it would be Minny Jackson ",
"They should probably move that ladder, too.",
"That guy has exactly the right expression for a guy covering poles in grease.",
"Riot punch or riot juice is an American thing. It’s a bunch of fruit and grain alcohol.",
"lmao",
"Oh, hi England",
"People might climb them and then drop their phones by accident. Don't want that happening what with the high repair costs Apple charges these days",
"So the real game is actually the Eagles vs Property Values?",
"Vikes fan here\" I hope all my SKOL brothers and sisters get home safe.",
"New candidate for Worst City Job Ever. Right after Mob Corpse De-bloater.",
"Ok now, let's try it with ten cent marijuana candies",
"Someone please post a picture of this pole being climbed if an Eagles fan climbs it after the NFC championship game tonight.",
"Guess we should bring a ladder for tonight then....",
"I love how super-thrilled this guy looks about this new gig. \"Honey, I'll be a little late tonight. Don't ask.\" ",
"Maybe Dawn? It works on like oil spill birds, why not crisco’d lampposts?",
"“And I said, Oh my God, I think the Eagles could clinch the NFC east!”",
"Jokes on him though, Eagles fans are seasoned veterans at climbing on hard greased up poles.",
"Work in a UK Sex shop where we sell Crisco... This isnt the kind of pole i imagined it being used on...",
"And marbles ",
"Easy to live in your parent's basement when you still have your parents. ",
"Why do people climb these poles? And what are the problems that comes with climbing said poles?",
"Why not grease the fans instead of the whole town? ",
"Between New York and Philadelphia, you can see the difference. ",
"So let me get this straight. Thinking that it is a waste of cities funds protecting the city from drunk morons. And really protecting people from themselves. And thinking that someone who hets all liquored up, and then would climb a light pole only to be pelted by bottles and who knows what else from onlookers. Because i think that kind of person is an idiot, you cant imagine any scenario where you and i would have an enjoyable time together. I find that hard to believe. Im pretty easy to get along with. ",
"sounds like a good way to kill some people.",
"This sounds like some crazy measure a Roman Emperor would have to take to prevent the masses from rioting after a chariot race or something. ",
"This idiot is trying to JAM UP philly fans. Go birds!",
"Grease Police!",
"Gotta go make the RIOT PUNCH",
"There's a great podcast I listen to called The Dollop that did an episode about Philadelphia fans.\n\nI feel like everyone should listen to it.\n\n[The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds Episode 64 - The Fans of Philadelphia](http://podplayer.net/#/?id=22047127) ",
"People have even died in those riots ",
"Best driving in an open world game ever",
"Clicked on it didn’t get a nsfw warning and was like wow a misleading sub that’s pretty neat wonder what cool stuff is here, reads first post and my hopes were dropped and I asked my self what I expected.",
"💋💋",
"Eagles vs Propery insurance claims. ",
"haha you can't even type right, your family probably reads books to have fun, you got bullied in school didn't you?",
"Wow that was Tim Russert. He was one hell of a journalist. I certainly miss him on Meet The Press. Hard to believe it's almost a decade since he passed away. ",
">\tThey built a secret tunnel so that the visiting players ...can get safely back to the hotel without the Phillies fans hammering them. \n\n>\tWe’re passionate fans. Passionate fans.\n\n>\twe gotta hammer something! \n\n[I AM UNTETHERED!](https://m.imgur.com/7uerJxU?r.gifv)",
"I have no idea why people have the urge to climb them... but for question 2, people fall, get hurt and try to sue because they were able to climb/fall and get hurt/dead. They also tend to hurt others on the way to the pavement...",
"They'll regret this when all the poles are on fire.",
"I am kind of rooting for the robots on that one.",
"Quick, somebody cover the streets with marbles!!",
"That'd be a tragedy. All the hot dogs and nachos would be sold out by the second inning.",
"RIP died from slipping on micro machines ",
"That is *beyond* retarded what you’re saying right now. I can do way more pushups than you even though I was just hit by a car ",
"Not exactly. We do read yes. If trashing me for a typo is what this haa revereted to then i dont know. Go enjoy your football. You seem really stable.",
"Who wants to bet there's couches set out on curbs - because flaming couches are safer than cars fires.",
"We always gotta hammer someone!!",
"I guess it's not possible that the city is actually wasting their efforts here? Show me a history of this being needed in Philly.",
"Never been to Philly, but many other big cites aren't so disgusting that you wouldn't want to touch anything downtown.",
"just checking in, you ded?",
"His face says \"man I should've stayed in school\"",
"As someone removed from almost every facet of this... Why the hell do they climb poles? ",
"Which sounds like one of the best halftime shows around tbh",
"Why do people climb light poles when their football team loses? ",
"No, but is anyone's horse missing a head?",
"They've been practicing for years.\n\nhttp://www.italianmarketfestival.com/grease-pole.html",
"/r/holdmyjugofwine",
"\"This is not what I applied for\"",
"Just cover somone in crisco and put em at the top of the pole with a boom lift and have them slide down.",
"This was really the whole crux of my opinion. Alcohol is a vile drug. You seem like you get it.",
"that was old school, now they decapitate all the trojans on your pc",
"The streets of Philadelphia are caked in the dried blood of hitchBOT. Only our blood can wash it away.",
"I know that Philly doesn't have the strongest education system, but the above poster never implied that it was strictly a Philly thing.",
"What if you wrap newspaper over the Crisco and then set it on fire?",
"Right? Fucking everywhere does that shit.",
"Won’t be necessary. Hand out crying towels instead. ",
"Oh god you’d be surprised",
"*Claus",
"I was waiting for the part where the UN troops showed up to clear out the threat, but when they began the Evac, there was no more room left in the APCs and they had to run back to base on foot.",
"L'albero della cuccagna! It's a tradition from the late middle ages, but it's almost dead now. ",
"Back in the 80s me and my siblings had to make up games like \" stand still and throw crabapples at each other until somone moves\" and \"jump off the roof off the garage\" to pass the time.\n\n",
"Is that stuff flamible?",
"I wish somebody would climb up my pole :(",
"As a native I can only say:\ndon't worry, my cousin will still find a way.",
"People climbing poles for sports games, but not for their government shutting down. America.",
"Police officer very expensive.",
"A lot of latin american countries have a version of it. The name is \"palo ensebado\" or \"cucaña\". Palo ensebado can be translated as greased pole.",
"Wow WTH west New York?",
"Now they can just lite them on fire.",
"University of Tennessee and Warhammer. Come on bruh. Now it all makes sense. No typos. Just for you. Geaux Tigers bitch.",
"It was the night that Ed Snyder - the late owner of the Flyers - was memorialized but the bracelets were not for the memorial ceremony, the events just happened to be concurrent.",
"Oh shut up dude you’re just fear mongering for the sake of imaginary internet points. ",
"your comment made me wonder why your hopes where dropped so i too made the mistake to click into this sub",
"Could be worse, we throw seafood",
"This guy just fucking white-hatted the crisco cops",
"He’s not getting any info, he’s just onboard the “hurr durr Philadelphia fans are also assholes that throw snowballs at Santa” bandwagon. Meanwhile LA dodgers fans literally kill people, panther fans beat up old men, Bruin’s fans puke on and beat up teenagers, but ohhhhh man watch out for those eagles fans. ",
"Crisco me, Crisco me now. Me needs lota Crisco now.",
"They should grease up all the alcohol!",
"They also climb poles when they win. There will be a riot tonight whether Philly wins or loses and it will be beautiful.",
"We do this in Philly too. It is why they didn't even waste their time doing it in the Italian district from the article I read ",
"Nah the wristbands had nothing to do with the owner who they were honoring that game. Didnt stop a lot of outlets from claiming they were.",
"This guy looks like he is wearing a monacle!",
"Line vs post",
"So the heavy handed tactics they seem to be fine with for legitimate, more-peaceful, protests can't be used here?",
"I mean do you even have any examples of Philly fans \"rioting\" after a game? It's a huge sports town that celebrates in a big way after a big win. Many cities are the same way.",
"A post makes a line. Boo",
"yeah if the world series riots taught me anything it's that people are gonna do worse shit if they can't climb the poles",
"NANOMACHINES",
"If you wanna have a bridge fight Pittsburgh will come and kick your ass",
"https://i.imgur.com/T0zykpE.gif",
"If you have a little bit of time I'd recommend listening to [The Dollop recant Cleveland's infamous Ten Cent Beer Night](http://thedollop.libsyn.com/ten-cent-beer-night).",
"As a native Philadelphian, I’m not surprised in the least. ",
"In New Orleans, we have burlesque dancers grease the poles to stop tourists from climbing them during Mardi Gras.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/8sp6ArIUp3Y",
"Making a city safe for normal day to day traffic is an accepted cost of city maintenance that everyone benefits from. This is different. The equivalent would be going to see an opera and being so overcome with emotion at the end that you run into the middle of the road and start crying your eyes out and rolling around. And then the city having to setup roadblocks so that the rolling around on the ground and crying crowd can do it safely. This doesn't happen.",
"Hey, greasin' the pole is a great way to keep em calm ;)",
"/r/prematurecelebration",
"> some guy ate horseshit off the groung.\n\nThe high culinary bar that gave us Skyline \"chili\"",
"A line is 2D whereas a post is 3D IMO",
"Cletus, you come to me with this on the day of my daughter's Hitchin day?",
"they'll just lick it off first.",
"Fall of 2009, tailgated for the 1pm Eagles/Giants game that blended right into the tailgate for the Phils/Yankees World Series game later that night. Amazing day.",
"National Embarrassment. Jim Schwartz is perfect for them.",
"Yo Jackeeee! I soaked up Philly like a sponge!",
"http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-129725",
"Technically the line on the field IS 3d, though. So would that make it a post?",
"Because we've seen what happens when they don't get greased, and this is the better option.",
"Whether they're climbing it to celebrate or climbing it to hang themselves. ",
"This is such a great picture. I thought for a minute \"why do they climb light poles?\" but them I remember that where I went to college, after football games, people would drag their couch outside and set fire to it. So climbing light poles is at least less destructive.",
"Do you have any examples of doing out of frustration over a loss like you claimed? That was the 1st championship in 28 years, pretty sure many places are going to go nuts over that. ",
"start a blog why don't you",
"Uh huh. Lots of happy \"accidents\" going on right now. /s",
"We don’t fuck around when it comes to balls and lines in Philadelphia.\n\nThe same thing could be said about hookers.",
"2 hookers and an 8 ball?",
"Looks like my wife when I'm in the mood and she's on her period.",
"I mean not to be rude but like the Eagles have been bad for a long time. Bad enough to not get a lot of hope up. Googling for riots isn’t easy as I don’t make it a point to remember when cities riot.",
"Thanks bro! We arguing lines in here? Wtf?! FOOTBALL",
"Just because something doesn't look gross, that doesn't mean it isn't covered in dirt and germs. Always err on the side of caution. It's inevitable anyplace you have a large amount of people on the regular.",
"Eagles won't win so it's ok",
"You one-bridge-havin' piece o' shit city!",
"so how much does it cost to grease every light pole in philly?",
"Fuckin philly",
"The fans know now and will come out with ladders.",
"Yea I live in a quiet block of Center City and there's a cop parked outside my place right now. ",
"Hahahaha...\n\n***KEVIN!***\n\n[faints]",
"Everything is covered in dirt and germs. You shouldn't live life afraid of that. Just wash your hands you'll be alright.",
"Excuse me! I still live in my room, thank you!",
"I prefer the term, ‘Grease Police.’",
"Well that looks worse than a guy hanging off a light pole",
"The city as well as local businesses make a ton of money when our teams are doing well, so it's probably not a loss financially - it's likely a gain. People here live for sports.",
"Roll tide!",
"He’s a professional pole luber ",
"This sounds like a challenge. I think Eagles fans are up to it.",
"Shit americans do.",
"Easy to keep your micro machines when you have your micro machines portable garage.",
"So, is this if they win, lose, or either way peeps gonna climb?",
"They only grease poles in the area near the stadium near South Broad. It's not like the entire city is climbing poles - only the drunks from and near the game.",
"That actually sounds amazing",
"That's the most underrated comment I've ever seen. ",
"University of Kentucky?",
"Outoftheloop?",
"This is actually a really good idea haha. ",
"To be fair there's not much difference between a drunk adult and a baby.",
"More like u/darkcomment, amirite!?",
"More likely to be a loss riot.",
"Don't you try to put pukey guy on us in NJ. He was from NYC and he happened to be passing through NJ. ",
"This is my city, I have to defend it!",
"Nope, do they do that there too, or are you just guessing?",
"Now explain the D batteries routinely hurls at opposing teams bull pins. ",
">I mean not to be rude\n\n>I don’t make it a point to remember when cities riot.\n\nYet you say ...\n\n>Because win or lose the people of Philly are going to riot and he knows there’s little he, and the rest of the dept, can do to stop it. Because the people of Philly are such assholes that they think the proper way to celebrate or show their frustration of a fucking football game is to destroy the town the team represents. To fuck up businesses and personal property.\n\nSo you dont actually know of any times Philly rioted other than after their 1st championship in 28 years but felt that was enough to proclaim the city full of assholes that riot win or lose after any big game? Got it. So pretty much you were talking out of your ass and have nothing to support your strong claims.",
"Easy to live in your parent’s basement when you still have micro machines. ",
"We need video ",
"Guys, this is one of the few times where it is acceptable to be shirtless in a public forum, so I'm blastin' bare chest the whole time.",
"They could just put the military along the streets and execute rioters I’m sure that would drastically reduce future riot attempts.",
"[We do it in Nova Scotia too, but with horizontal poles.](https://youtu.be/xj_mc6Mea5M?t=187)",
"Philly fans are trash.",
"Because saying fuck is so edgy ",
"Man I love my city. Can't wait for my Patriots to break everyone's hearts again in the super bowl :)",
"Working that shaft. ",
"They release 1000s of honey badgers to lick the crisco off the poles.",
"He literally made a comment that painted the picture while still being relevant to the subject of the original post, while never implying that it was philly exclusive at the same time. You just can't read. ",
"Could someone theoretically get injured climbing the pole and then sue the city (or whoever is spreading the grease) for negligence?",
"Hide yo kids, hide yo wife. ",
"What is this, a car for ants? \n",
"And they'll have to come clean it up, later. \n\nThis is stupid.",
"You should move in their room. ",
"This town is going to be a bucket of deep fried fucked no matter the outcome of this game.",
"Have you ever seen this attempted? It's hilarious.",
"Bacon grease?",
"Don't ask why, it's just the shit we do. ",
"Sports fans are the perfect example of people who are so fucking deluded about the world, that they have to immerse themselves in tribalism in order to function properly.\n\nLike if people cared about real issues as much as they do a sport ( one that causes brain damage to most players at that), we could get a lot of fucking shit done. But no, people would rather have that easy sense of belonging than any real values. ",
"Dat cans \n",
"Step 1: Drink beers\n\nStep 2: Hold my beer\n\nStep 3: Get on my shoulders, and climb up\n\nStep 4: Profit",
"If Plebe year at the Naval Academy taught me anything, it’s that a bunch of dudes piled up can easily defeat this.",
"Does alcohol dissolve fat?",
"Philly fucks!",
"Stock up https://www.amazon.com/KK32-Original-Concentrated-Degreaser-32-Ounce/dp/B000S8EQFO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1516576081&sr=8-3&keywords=degreaser",
"What's this? A non political post on /r/pics? To the pit of misery with you!",
"So that’s why the Munzee won’t scan ",
"Frankford and Cottman?",
"So do they go around and clean up these poles afterwards? Are people suing because their work clothes are getting greasy from bumping into these on their walk to/from work? \n \nI go to Packers games typically, where almost everyone's still drunk, but they mostly just hug it out. ",
"Is this really the best way to stop people climbing a pole? Won’t it just be weird a greasy for months? Why?",
"“Les Incompetents”",
">Married guy looking for a curious cock to suck\n\n\nOh my",
"God damn it.",
"Donald Trump will show up to toss rolls of paper towels to people in the crowd, and will declare his effort a huge success.\n\n**PLOT TWIST!**",
"Gravity, how does it work? ",
"lol Philly fans are the worst on the planet. Heathens. ",
"User name checks out",
"No, but a raised line if you want to split hairs",
"Probably didn’t need to grease that up till maybe half way up ",
"So they can't hang themselves when they lose tonight 😅",
"Fuck Philly and the Eagles!",
"In my city that's a good way to get Hep A....",
"Fucking Philly. Home of Assholes. ",
"Italy has it too. Cuccagna",
"Look at that face. That grim resignation. He went to the Academy for this.",
"R/iasip",
" \"WE HAVE DESTROYED YOUR CITY OF BROTHERLY LOVE!\"\n\n\"Ok. I mean Oh nooo.... Nerts. Better not visit Detroit next.\"\n\n \"Unless our deman--\"\n\n\"Seriously though, Detroit. Also we'll throw in a Dakota! You can pick which one.\" -cough-\"North!\"-cough-",
"Bet now on number of Vikings fans who get stabbed in Philly tonight.\n\nMy money is on 4.",
"It’s always greasy in Philadelphia ",
"Is this a new law under Trump?",
"Mexican here.\n\nIt was a game show in the nineties, no like something we do day to day ",
"So much for that",
"http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/browbeat/2015/12/17/macaulay_culkin_skit_brings_back_home_alone_s_kevin_mccallister_video/screen_shot_20151217_at_2.12.48_pm.png.CROP.promo-xlarge2.12.48_pm.png",
"> It has a name, but I forgot.\n\nGay sex?",
"Or committing suicide when they lose.",
"I see a lighter being involved.",
"MURICA",
"Oh my god the jokes, think of the jokes this is gonna spawn.",
"Can’t wait to see the horses charge the rioters.",
"Is that pork free grease ?",
"This is America, There's always a point of trying to climb a greased up lightpole",
"Eagles fan here, we’ll find a way.\nEdit: Also, fuck Dallas",
"Plus they were like 0 and a million that season and it was cold AF out. ",
"Owner not player. ",
":sigh:\n\nyou know, i goddamned love my city sometimes.\n\n",
"Fuck those guys is why",
"I guess it never hurts to be prepared, but he can't seriously think the Eagles are winning today can he?",
"Go fuck yourself, Philly is not exclusive in any way to this. Boston is so much worse but someone threw a battery at a guy dressed as santa once time half a century ago, so now we just forever be judged by it",
"Goddamnit now I wish I still had my micro machines... so many little kid stuff I blew up with my pellet gun. I guess there was a trade-off..",
"Seriously one of the best memories I have. Running down the street and hitting up 5 points in the Northeast. Completely packed. And the parade! Best week ever.",
"Waste of time when they lose. ",
"Anyone else think it would be more fun if they used some sort of adhesive? ",
"Reminds me of in Boston when the Red Sox won the 2013 World Series... Some drunk dude climbed up and started swinging on a traffic light... ",
"Those idiots were jumping from the lightposts to the roofs of septa buses the night we beat the dodgers to win the NLCS.\n\nAt least we aren't like the folks in boston who are probably already flipping cars.",
"Then I'm gonna put on green man and dance around the field!",
"Tell me about it, I fuckin live her dude. Embrace the chaos.",
"Is this... actually a thing? ",
"TIL some people call them light poles",
"Found the giants fan. ",
"Hi Johnny",
"Jump off the trash can in the background onto the pole above the grease",
"It's work with squirrels so that should work with us.",
"What does a cop have to do to earn “grease the pole” duty?",
"Username checks out",
"Woops I accidentally looked too accidentally",
"huh? Now that is flammable. They'll first try to light it up and it probably won't. But then they'll find fabric or paper to wrap the poles and then light it up. We'll see at least one pole engulfed in a giant fire. ",
"Popebot was so awesome that I forgot the original's name was Hitchbot",
"That explain this.\n\nhttp://www.italianmarketfestival.com/grease-pole.html\n",
"I guess it's not a bad idea. It is just a shame people in Philly can't control themselves. If you need more proof just drive on the Schuylkill Expressway. They are all morons you'd swear they never drove before. ",
"yeah fucking right\n\nbest night ive ever had was 08 world series. i wasnt drunk or anything and i hugged literally everyone including cops",
"We'll get up there",
"Enjoy paying $3000 a month for an apartment without windows",
"Fucking fans in Philly are the worst types of people under almsot any circumstance. For those of you that just want to live there, good luck to you.",
"Thats going to be a depressing cleanup. ",
"And then what after the game? Will they clean the poles off?\n\nIf someone slides and gets injured because of the grease, isn't the city liable? Are they putting up warning signs beforehand?",
"Italian Festival winners time to shine",
"Is there a Florida man sub reddit for philly people?",
"Isn't that stuff flammable? ",
"I've watched a group of drunk trade workers decide to help one on top of the portapotty. He wanted to try shitting down the tube. They didn't get him up there luckily. ",
"Wow, no reason to get downvoted. ",
"That was. Interesting. \"Straight guy here, just love me some blowjobs from dudes, they do it better than chicks, remember to really fuck the guys face, they love it\"",
"Why sports fans are the worst",
"> Thinking that Burroughs had been attacked, Texas manager Billy Martin charged onto the field with his players right behind, some wielding bats. A large number of intoxicated fans – some armed with knives, chains, and portions of stadium seats that they had torn apart – surged onto the field, and others hurled bottles from the stands.\n\nOh my god that's amazing",
"As if a city like Boston wouldn't do the exact same thing",
"Mr. Slave has plans tonight!",
"Win or lose, Philly fans are garbage.",
"What a bunch of pole greasers. ",
"Freshman at the US Naval Academy do something similar every year. They have to work togeather get a hat off the top of a greased obelisk while upperclassman spray them with water hoses. I watched my buddy do it a few years ago. Very entertaining.\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herndon_Monument",
"How am I supposed to show how proud I am of my city if I can't climb poles, riot and overturn cars?",
"As a Pennsylvanian, I refer to Philly as Jersey-Cross-the-River.",
"Most people engaging in these destructive after parties probably don't care about win loss as much as you think. They are joining in for the destruction. Tradition/familiarity makes room for stuff like this with almost no personal cost. ",
"That would work incredibly well. I hope there's going to be video. ",
"I don't mind getting my pole greased.\n\nJust not by the guy in the pic.",
"haha yeah bro ",
"Yeah, the probably don't need to be doing the bottom meter... And although it will pre grease their feet, it will mean more grease than necessary covering the ground nearby and drunk people's feet. Potentially causing accidents.\n\nThat cop is a murderer!! ",
">Is this really the best way to stop people climbing a pole? \n\nNo\n\n>Won’t it just be weird a greasy for months? \n\nThe folks rioting will have some dawn and wash it off. \n\n>Why?\n\nGotta act like they're doing *something* to help. ",
"Freshman at the US Naval Academy do something similar every year. They have to work togeather get a hat off the top of a greased obelisk while upperclassman spray them with water hoses. I watched my buddy do it a few years ago. Very entertaining.\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herndon_Monument",
"\"Man, I don't get the appeal of strippers. What about it? She dances on a pole, takes off some clothes? Woohoo. You can't even touch em. I tell you, I'd never be on some stupid pole looking like an idiot just to entertain some people. \"\n\n\n\"The Gang Climbs a Pole\"",
"hmppff. My spear needs some cleaning. ",
"No need for this now 😂",
"We do love to celebrate here in philly.",
"Context is a motherfucker.",
"God, why can't people just experience life and stop an ambulance from going to save someone? What's the big deal?",
"If you're really curious, you could easily set up a small scale experiment and see how well it burns. Just do it well away from other flammable materials, under the supervision of a responsible adult and with a suitable fire extinguisher nearby. Remember, it's oil. So don't use water.\n\nIt would probably depend on the newspaper burning long enough and hot enough to reach the ignition temperature of the oil. It also looks like a metal pole, which might conduct enough heat away to prevent it. Only one way to find out.",
"Palo Encebado",
"sports fans are pathetic braindead losers ",
"Something...something... Philadelphians know how to work a pole",
"The Crisco Kid was a friend of mine",
"You underestimate the effects of alcohol",
"\"Why do people care about things?\" - Says depressed 19 year old\n\n\"b-but the right things!\" Anything worth caring about is worth getting carried away with, especially if it's with friends.",
"With the entire city greased, everyone will just slide down into the low points and get stuck. ",
"Didn’t expect that. But I should have known better. It’s Reddit. ",
"That game was like MouseTrap. Never ever got to play either of them for real.",
"If bumfights has taught me anything, a properly greased light post will prevent a crackhead from reaching a bundle of crack further up the lightpole.",
"Did not know genetalia could be curious.",
"And a wifebeater and a shaved head ",
"In New Orleans we grease the poles for Mardi Gras",
"Man that pole is gonna be NASTY in a month",
"I think it just changes the goal. Why would you want to climb a pole when you can set it on fire?",
"This is why you can't have nice things, Philadelphia.",
"Just use that ladder that is right there ",
"Who's got a lighter ?",
"[curious cock](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a7/a6/9d/a7a69dd4a86404b7ce65ebc2acdfe2dd.jpg)",
"but at the end of the day....they threw snowballs at santa clause ",
"yeah that means we like each other, not you guys",
"I remember the destruction after the Phillies won the world series...\n\nMade me consider getting a gun in case someone tried to flip my car...",
"\"How did my life end up like this...\"",
"Wair am i supposed to be the depressed 19 yr old? Maybe like 14 years ago. I had to do the math. That was depressing.",
"This is Philly we're talking about...... If they win,It's chanting and violence..... If they lose it's Profanity and violence.",
"I don't know the current situation in the miniature-toy-car aisle, but in the 70s and early 80s, Hot Wheels were vastly superior.",
"I too went to grrcon. ",
"[‘08 World Series](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6bZk7BIdCns)",
"Isn’t this how the running of the bulls starts? Just throw some ham up there. ",
"Their mistake is in thinking Eagle fans aren't prepared to lick Crisco off of a utility pole. ",
"This is actually a Philly Police Officer, just doing this to help out ahead of time.",
"Is it ok to call any city that has to protect itself from its own citizens a shithole?",
"The poles will run red with the blood of the fallen as wooden shards become jammed in arteries femoral.",
"If you can show beyond a 51% chance that their actions were at fault for causing you damage, you have a potential case to sue anyone for the amount of damage done (hospital bills in this scenario).",
"Why stand on each others shoulders, there is a ladder right there, they can use that.",
"When someone catches you in the midst of your weird fetish and you need to come up with an excuse fast.",
"I really miss him. Imagine him if he were still on Meet the Press. You'd think anyone from the current administration showing up on there would look like they'd just been flayed alive by Ramsay Snow.",
"UK had been known to burn couches ",
"Can't imagine it's expensive to pay someone to rub down a pole. ",
"They don't have to worry. The Vikings will prevail.",
"lol that makes me challenged ",
"I'd love to see Stephen Miller try to bullshit Tim. Shit would get shut down **fast**",
"Damn what's with Philadelphians and climbing street light poles?\n\nI was at a Made In America festival in Philly a couple years back and on the last day people were climbing up on all kinds of street signs and shit. One dude was dead hanging off the top of a street light and was making Wookie noises",
"how would you feel greasing someone else's pole",
"Too bad they’re going to lose.",
"You should've seen Chicago after the 2016 World Series.",
"This man is lubing up his pole",
"Oh man this just became a sport.",
"Yeah I'm fairly progressive on gay/bi/straight stuff but I think after a certain amount of times getting your dick sucked by a dude you have to acknowledge you are bisexual.\n\n",
"Yeah I enjoyed the more realistic handing of GTA IV over GTA V's by a mile. It was streets ahead. ",
"That explains all the fire throwers mounted behind the doors on that street.",
"Philly fans are brutal.",
"What about afterwords? How do they get it off? \n\nI mean I’ve never been o Philly, but it seems like the whole place is swimming in cooking fat anyway, so maybe they just leave it?\n\nWho knows!",
"wow philly really seems like a shithole ",
"In the Philippines, it's called Palo Sebo",
"Well, duh, because it becomes your basement when they die, unless that’s where you hid the bodies...",
"Ive lived just across the bridge for 37 and you are correct sir.",
"Yes that's how government works by monopolizing the use of force.",
"Mayor erm uh... Quimby.",
"Imagine this being your fulltime job. Greasing poles. \n",
"Isn't that Cincinnati instead? Or has my entire life been a filthy lie?",
"Excuse me but we pay that much so we can have politicans make laws that ensure that we have windows. How familiar are you with light law?\n\nEdit: /s , jeez guys!",
"Is it considered good form to climb light poles after games then? I had no idea.",
"\"The gang get stuck on top of a light pole.\"",
"A classic baseball game halftime show",
"They do that for mardi gras every year.",
"I saw it on reddit. \n\nSports fans are fucking weird ",
"i know a guy from philly. \n\nhe fucking sucks ",
"*Spits chew*",
"Works if they lose too",
"1/22/2018 News Headline: Phildephia is in darkness after all light poles were eaten following the Eagles' loss in the NFC Championship game. ",
"He isnt. A lot of them are the local business owners doing it because of past occurrences.",
"But what is this national pastime called?",
"Fantastic. Wait... Phantastic! No wait... Phantast-slick!!",
"It happens in US. \n\nSmall town in northern Michigan has a grease pole every 4th of July with bills stuck to it along the way up. I think they use actual grease, not crisco though. ",
"This was back in '05 off of Welsh and Rt 1.",
"The period is in the link: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Moschitta_Jr.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Moschitta_Jr.)\n\nreddit bug",
"They mean liquid love, as in semen. Suck their dicks is the secret take home message. ",
"HUZZAH!",
"Osha would like Philly to leave that and some tie off stuff.",
"Man if we were all just like *you*, things would be so much better, amirite? You sound super well-adjusted, I'm going to change my life to be more like you.",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7ry8xd/philly_crisco_cops_are_greasing_the_light_poles/dt0mxbx/",
"i challenge it too ",
"but Philly certainly is...special ",
"This is why we had to move the capital to Washington, D.C. ",
"No, I'm actually a pretty shitty person too.\n\nI just happen to recognize that tribalism is a horrible influence in the world, and sports fans who don't play the sport yet get worked up over it, are just engaging in senseless tribalism causing nothing but chaos. ",
"“local franchise of monopolized force” sounds like something george carlin would’ve said",
"ThatsHowWeDoItInPhilly !!",
"Doubt they’ll need it. SKOL",
"If I know philly those poles will be licked clean by the 3rd quarter. ",
"*the gang lubes up a pole*",
"That’s fucking hilarious ",
"Is that the giant metal wishbone thing you throw the hand egg ball through to score points?",
"I'm still trying to figure out how y'all got cops to do anything and they didn't just stand back and say \"that's streets and sanitation's job.\"",
"Brazilian here, can confirm. We call It \"pau de sebo\", something like stick of grease.",
"Ah.. Hmm grab the enchilada. We all dress in sombreros and pour tequila over our bodies while screaming ayayayay Arriba arriba arriba and running very fast",
"There are also gypsies there that will barter for anything! They’ll sell you their own kid!",
"I guess that is where the name Cucaña comes from.",
"I'm not mexican but here in Spain we have a similar thing called Cucaña. ",
"Swing and a miss",
"People apparently haven't seen that the NFL already decided it would be the Pats vs Vikings on Friday",
"I don't think so, necessarily. Could just be a twisted dominance thing, having your dick sucked by other dudes is your alpha move over other \"weaker\" males. But I agree, probably a lot of denial in that sub.",
"Idk it's pretty pricey when I ask your mom to do it.",
"I think someone needs to update the Wikipedia, this guys nailed it.",
"Let's not forget [the time a Flyers fan climbed into the opposing penalty box to fight a player.](https://youtu.be/TS_92eKcGMI)\n\nGod, Philadelphia sucks.",
"Philly just brought it out of him.",
"So why are people climbing poles? What's the symbology behind it?\nI don't follow American soccer. ",
"Or is that just revisionism from Philly fans so they don't look like such dipshits?",
"They still look like dipshits because they were throwing shit on the ice like children. It isn't revisionist, it's a fact.",
"I went to school at University of Iowa and right after the Cubs won the world series, the whole downtown was going nuts with masses of drunk kids pouring out of the bars. I hugged multiple random crying dudes on the walk home. Before that, a kid climbed up a post, lost his grip and fell onto his head and died. So I say this is a good prevention effort. ",
"The fibers in the paper create a sort of wick for the oil which makes it vaporize and burn more readily. Or something.",
"Pfffft ooook that'll stop them, they won't see that as a fucking challenge or anything. I never want to break the rules when im drunk either",
"Do you think he ever got that curious cock?",
"Good thing south Philadelphians have annual Italian festival grease pole climbing practice ",
"I got the joke, fuck da downvotes, keep doin your thing",
"People=germs. Cities=a lot of people. Cities = a lot of germs. ",
"I'm terribly sorry, let me edit my original statement.\n\nEnjoy paying $3000 a month for an apartment with one window into a trash filled alley",
"Good one",
"Is it worth celebrating when your prize is playing the Patriots in the Super Bowl?",
"That's what she said ",
"Haha yeah I know",
"That's what she said ",
"That's what she said ",
"People from Philly are already too greasy to climb those.",
"True",
"It's Cinci. Despite the abundance of horseshit on the ground, Cleveland actually has a low key *amazing* food scene. Especially if you are into comfort foods.",
"Put some wine and prosciutto in me and I'll degrease your pole.",
"They're gonna riot no matter what tonight, because that's just how Philly fans are. They rioted as soon as the Phillies won the World Series in 2008.",
"That's cuz she's high class and not from Philly ",
"Woah. FF, GJ.",
"In Brazil we have it too, it's called \"Pau de Sebo\" means grease wood.",
"https://i.imgur.com/pv74tE1.jpg?fb",
"https://i.imgur.com/pv74tE1.jpg?fb",
"R/evenwithcontext ",
"SKOL VIKINGS",
"Alright people, let the climb race commence. ",
"Look at all that Viqueen salt.",
"\"It's a good movie if you don't expect your movies to be good.\" ",
"what the damn he is painting on the lamp",
"Those are crack heads, not gypsies ",
"Or it’s attached to you. ",
"You've reached a sad point as a species when this is something that's actually required to keep people alive.",
"people climb poles because they're dumb, plain and simple.\n\nlol, american football isn't just soccer.",
"Well I won’t pay full price.",
"Doesn't that make it flammable?",
"As opposed to?... Please tell me... ",
"You are 100% correct, but it happens worse in Philly than anywhere. Philly fans are a special kind of asshole. Fuck Philadelphia sports fans.",
"Or..... don't unnecessarily lean against dirty things. I mean... come on. You know it's filthy. Most people don't run home and wash their jacket every day. ",
"That would be much more amusing. High grade, super adhesive.",
"No I'm pretty sure Tim Allen was in that suite",
"I remember when the Phils got into the World Series, people were celebrating and drinking on the streets. When they won, people rioted and a guy died, I was around the riots I remember checking out when I saw 2 dudes carrying a tree. Then when philly threw a parade for the win I talked to a dude pissing right outside my studio. Good times. ",
"This was the hazing at my dad's university. You had to climb a greased pole and / or dye yourself purple. Weird. ",
"Philly fans are the worst.",
"Seems like a waste of good tequila 😱.",
"Even if Philly wins, I would love to watch this game with Bill Burr. ",
"just giving people the idea",
"Would suck if you leaned against that ",
"Street lights, street lamps, or lamp posts. Never heard light poles before",
"/r/watchpeopledieinside",
"That hydrant beside it will require you to grease MUCH higher.",
"That's genius. I never thought of that. Not sure if cut it in Philly. ",
"I saw a baby roaming around in north Philly the other day, it was still living obviously, so I guess the baby proofing of the city has been working. ",
"I mean, kinda. It’s a fun movie with a lot of good jokes. It’s not like a Jack and Jill type of movie where the characters are insufferable and make the movie unwatchable. Year One is more of a “meh” movie. It’s good if you don’t have high expectations.",
"That's what she said ",
"They’re all still eagles fans...",
"Cross post to r/wtf because wtf",
"Add $100 dollars and point it out later",
"If you get the sense that this is typical of many cities from his post then we disagree. Pretty sad you feel the need to try to insult me ",
"You mean once? Because it was once.",
"The “worse”? Lol",
"Not just Mexico, I remember doing this as a kid in Alaska in the 90's. They would staple money and other stuff to the pole. Was at a fair of some sort.",
"I had that game. It's exactly as awesome as it looks in the commercials.",
"I’ve heard them called something else, much worse. ",
"With no context I could have told you that dude was from philly. ",
"I’m guessing not the first pole he’s greased",
"Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Street lights/lamps for me refers to the actual bulb housing. Lamp posts vs light poles is probably more of a regional thing. ",
"I remember this from Mexico as well. Can't remember what it's cold but definitely brings back memories from my childhood. ",
"Funny that both people who comment on the fact that I think there is an implied insult to philly decided to insult philly. ",
"Lol all this will do is create more injuries",
"I remember the day I found out crisco is perfect lube for jacking it.",
"I’m in China right now. I’m sitting in the hotel lounge right next to the business centre. It’s breakfast time. Some guy has taken over the boardroom you can reserve for meetings to watch this game. I can hear him screaming and banging on the table when something happens in the game. \n\nI’ll never understand why people get so involved with this stuff. ",
"Pole Dancing?",
"When the last time there was a riot in Philadelphia after a loss?",
"\"Person: I GOT THE JOB\n\nPerson 2: RLLY? \n\nPerson: YEAH IM A POLE GREASER\n\nPerson 2: ...\"",
"Lol i took the chance and it was truly spectacular",
"Like Pokemon, [you can't catch em all](https://imgur.com/a/k5RL5)",
"\"Hold my beer\" -Always Sunny writers",
"Drunk people are going to pole dance on these. I guarantee it.",
"This fuckin guy",
"Someone explain why he has to do this please",
"I knew you were really from philly when you said “yous” haha",
"Yea, I rely on predictive typing too much on Mobil. I don't alway's catch the mistakes",
"Cincinnati does too, I know the chili is a meme at this point but every city has it's own iteration of shitty comfort food, and we dont mistake it for real chili. It's its own thing. We've got amazing German food, Oktoberfest, sausage, the best Reuben place and I'll fight New York on that (I'll lose, but imma still try), goetta, Graeters aka the best ice cream ever aka spending a month's worth of cheat days for a single cone, great bakeries, and a wide variety of cultures and options when it comes to food: Terry Turf Club claiming the best burger, the precinct for steak, Montgomery Inn BBQ, Hoffbrauhaus, Orchids, Tom + Chee, and a surprising number of great Indian and sushi places. Not to mention a number of good farmers markets and butchers (shoutout to Avril-bleh's) and the one and only Jungle Jim's, where you can find literally everything food from anywhere in the world. If they don't have it, you can make an order for it, and they'll start stocking it. Place is incredible. ",
"I reckon I could still get a prusik to grip. Just a PSA from an Australian rigger.\n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/G0rwVEx.jpg",
"Thanks lol",
"I believe it. Never spent much time that far south, but I always enjoy myself when I go. There's an Italian restaurant called Sotto, I think, the food was amazing.",
"Someone please post a video of fans clinging these.",
"God damn it, me too..",
"They’ll just use the ladder now! \n",
"This happens every year in New Orleans on Bourbon Street for Mardi Gras.",
"GTA IV absolutely knocked it out of the park physics wise whether it's in a vehicle or body or object physics, whatever it may be. ",
"When my dad was alive he used to have a picture of a rooster in his office he used to tell people do you want to see my cock then he would point at the picture",
"I thought poles were treated with creosote not crisco. ",
"Why not just electrify it?",
"I fully expect a picture of somebody at the top of this pole on the front page tomorrow morning.",
"I've seen this in other places as well. Whats the deal with people climbing poles after a sports game? Is that really a thing, and if so - why?",
"Here you go, it was el Palo en cebado on a show hosted by Paco Estanley https://youtu.be/nuH1jUU8_0M I'm on mobile and don't know how to link to a specific time within the video. ",
"In the UK I saw some signs with \"Anti Climb Paint\". Which would be a better permanent solution. \n https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-climb_paint",
"You seem like the kind of person who enjoys a good greased pole.",
"Headlines after the game: City of Philadelphia sued for injuries sustained from unsafe lighting conditions. ",
"Yup. Those Vikes are up 24-7 at the half. Right?",
"r/holdmyberet",
"I don't take pride in destruction of property, but snowballs at Santa is another story.",
"The flaw to that plan is what prevents the fans from using the ladders left behind next to every light pole?",
"That is embarrassing. ",
"Philly lawsuit in the making! I can see the headlines now! \n\n“Man being chased by rabid dogs tries to climb light poll to escape and finds himself becoming dog food instead”",
"Are you sure?",
"So those white frat guys on cinco de mayo last year were actually being culturally accurate. Good on them!",
"You never trust a fart, nor a sub you have no clue about... never trust a sublink.",
"The Dollop did a podcast on this. Not quite a movie, but still one of the funniest podcasts I've ever listened to. ",
"How does it feel to be wrong?",
"Grease me up, Doris!",
"You're getting fucked.",
"Similarly, Residents in Vallejo California have used bacon grease on fences and walls to deter prostitutes from loitering for johns. The grease not only smells bad which is bad for hooking business, but also stains their clothes. ",
"Yes! Sotto is fantastic, with excellent, properly Italian food. I want a lifetime supply of that short rib and Amish butter cappellacci. \n\n\nI wish I could return the compliment to Cleveland but I likewise haven't spent much at all time there, the only proper place I've been in Cleveland was a place with a ton of lovely pierogies that I can't remember the name of.",
"How salty are you at the moment?",
"Porn Fluffers fly north when work opportunities dry up",
"Spreading bro rape awareness since last year. ",
"Oh yea?",
"Do you guys give up, or ya thirsty for more?",
"It’s always slippery in Philadelphia ",
"Too lazy to look through the comments but we have a yearly thing here in Massachusetts where people will try to run across a greased up horizontal telephone pole admit 25 feet above water. \n\nI do not know why or if theres even a prize. ",
"Uh this happens every year before Mardi Gras in NOLA. \nWorks too. ",
"BRB Jumping off light pole. ",
"I’m just sad we won’t get to see [this](https://youtu.be/6bZk7BIdCns) happen again. ",
"*cries in Spanish*",
"I can't wait to see the videos in barstool and worldstar tomorrow. Someone will perform stupid shit on these poles",
"It absorbs through the pores. Smart.",
"good job for prevention",
" What, are you Russian? /s",
"It feels great !!",
"Turns out Dee the giant bird was a shit-hawk the whole time. ",
"https://media1.giphy.com/media/EouEzI5bBR8uk/giphy.gif",
"Wow that would of saved me a dislocated ankle at the red Sox Indians championship win",
"Did you see that ludicrous display last night?",
"Risky click of the day",
"Work complete.",
"\"What is my purpose in life\"\n\n\"You butter poles\"\n\n\"Oh my god....\"",
"Listened to an Eagles fan on a Philly sports radio station say he was glad that they lost their week 17 game against the Cowboys and finished 13-3, because \"Carson Wentz deserves 14-2, not Nick Foles.\" Some of the worst fans I've ever seen.",
"Link?",
"Nick Foles could be a starter on some teams.",
"Dee, you goddamn bitch",
"What a waste of grease and effort, let them do it, if they get injured or worse too bloody bad.",
"I misread it is \"Coco crisps\"",
"But Crisco is flammable.... ",
"This needs to be framed and hung in my bathroom.",
"This is a felony.",
"Thanks for the compliment.\n\nEdit: Salty instant downvote I see.",
"All they did was create a new sport. Greased pole climbing.\n\nCrisco up the body and the pole and let the competitors have at it.",
"Cleveland may as well be called Perogi city with how many polish kitchens we have here lol",
"I think you're partially right for some people. \n\nI like to hook up with trans women, and have dated them many times before - that's most of the extent of my queerness\n\nBut I have hooked up with men and that is occasionally when I'm at a sex club or event or party or whatever, I will get head from a really twinky, really femme gay dude and there is some aspect of attraction to dominance there.\n\nIt would be a total turn off if he was hairy and manly, but a super skinny, smooth twink will turn me on giving me head if he's super sub about it.\n\nI've met some twinks like this who get off on a homophobia fetish and want to be demeaned and called horrible things while this goes on and I honestly find it pretty hot.\n\nBut I have no interest in fucking them or dating them.\n\nA bit ago I had this 18 year old super femme twink kid live in my building and he would hit me up all the time and I obliged a couple times a month just getting serviced by him and it was hot in a pure physical pleasure way but also psychologically from a dominance way. ",
"How many people get hurt climbing the poles ?\n\nI can’t imagine a lot , let them climb their little butts off ",
"Adds new meaning to lubing up a pole",
"I take it back! I wanted them to win anyways. Pats will dispose of them swiftly",
"Well they are gonna need that shit for sure! What a game",
"Great plan till someone gets a 6' ladder.",
"Yep we are",
"Are you certain this is not in preparation of the Gay Pride Parade? ",
"Then add Philly",
"What a classy town.",
"Did you carry the won?",
"It's not an automatic response to nocontext. It should only be used when the quote still doesn't make sense with context.",
"I do. Germs of everywhere. I don't care.\n\nAnd kids do too.",
"Not losing now mofo! Climb on brothers!!",
"I think they're more worried about the poles than the people.",
"Just in case, “curious” refers to the man, not the genitalia. Using the term eliminates homosexuals from his search, especially effeminate ones. It also keeps things not-serious because he’s not looking for a relationship or a date, just some quick sex with an otherwise straight man. ",
"Oh,, [Jeez Christ, challenge accepted.](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/southpark/images/8/8f/Mr-Slave.transparent.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/224?cb=20170601235735)",
"But... Why would aggression lead to climbing greased poles?!",
"They shoulda done the same in Minneapolis to prevent Viqueen fans from attempting to hang themselves after the Queens showed MN they still remember how to play...",
"Potential destructiveness.",
"Stop idiot proofing the world. ",
"For Philly you're gonna need a lot more Crisco...",
"It's Philly. Unless the plant that makes Crisco is there, they don't have enough.",
"Oh yeah?",
"*Time Allen",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bupagiROLV8",
"How many people are gonna find white paste on their clothes and be like WTF??",
"Yah but still suck one bud",
"Well that's the reply of a loser.",
"good work for prevention of eagles ",
"I hope they have a couple of those cops on each of the buses to keep those Philly fans from eating each other genitals until they get home",
"Well, I was the best at this game back in middle school. We played it in PE all the time, and EVERY time I got the ball, I would throw it through that metal wishbone. Every. Time. I must have gotten too many points, and made everyone else look bad, because my teacher told me I wasn't allowed to play anymore, because the other team obviously didn't have a chance.",
"Jokes on them eagles can fly. ",
"Yeah the Eagles totally lost. ",
"You can not climb the facade at citizens bank arena",
"So is it working?",
"Stupid science bitch!",
"Stupid bitch!",
"He never said it was just Philly that riots after games. If someone posts a story about how their coworker Phil is an asshole, that doesn't imply that the poster thought Phil was the only asshole that existed.",
"Especially since Germany is the Alabama of Europe. ",
"That is patently absurd! That's like saying I should wrap Xmas gifts with hypoid gear oil! You use tape, ADHESIVE TAPE, dammit! Further...I...\n\n...fuck, I can't live like this anymore. I'm tired of being a shill for Big Adhesive. You're right...all of it...you're absolutely right. I love grease, grease has always done its job correctly and without failing, unlike almost every adhesive I've ever used. Grease even takes off stubborn adhesive residue, for God's sake. I do feel that Grease the movie was effing terrible, but not because grease was involved. I even have a grease gun in my room (keeping it from gumming up in the cold when I greased my truck's u joints the other day). I'm done living a lie. 😂\n\nProof: https://imgur.com/a/dkR2z\n\nGrease 2020 ✊",
"Go to North Dakota a lot. This made me laugh a lot. If you haven't been to North Dakota you are missing NOTHING!!!",
"Looks like use some friends to boost. Use the sign as a step.",
"Jesus, that was a shit show. Vikes come out with enthusiasm and then immediately go belly up.",
"Who sent the Vikings to the pit of misery?\n\n\"Philly Philly\"",
"Ever been to Philly? They're already greasy. This won't stop anything. ",
"wut",
"All the better to light the poles on fire",
"New Orleans here. We do this every year to keep people from scaling their way onto balconies during Mardi Gras. And like everything else we make a vulgar celebration out of it. [annual greasing of the poles celebration ](https://gonola.com/things-to-do-in-new-orleans/arts-culture/mardi-gras-lubrication-the-greasing-of-the-poles) ",
"I'm a bit confused, is this done solely to deny folks their Darwin awards?",
"Can not wait to see the videos of the attempts. ",
"Can someone Photoshop the fellow applying the grease into something else ",
"i think when you say \"the people of philly are such assholes..\" to me it implies that they are some higher degree of assholes. sorry you disagree",
"> an unfortunate part of being from Philly is the divide between the genuinely kind, interesting people and all the meat heads with big egos.\n\nHey man, some of us are genuinely kind meatheads with big eagos.",
"Because there is only one road in the entire city that an ambulance can take. We tear down broad, nothing else",
"Well lucky for you the eagles blew the Vikings out. I’m sure they’re rioting or something right ?",
"Haha... Good old Philly. Good thing we don't have to worry about that over here in Pittsburgh... BECAUSE THE FUCKING STEELERS RUN THREE RUNNING PLAYS IN A ROW AFTER THEY BLOCK A PUNT AND HAVE A CHANCE TO TURN THE GOD DAMN GAME AROUND. \n\nI mean... I'm not sore about it or anything. I just can't watch football without my blood boiling a little bit. My doctor says that's normal though.",
"Didn’t work",
"My high school janitor used to do this across the horizontal bars in the outside covered walkways because students (including myself) would swing off them. So many people got hurt slipping off the greased bars that he had to scrub them and leave us to it.",
"I'm sorry, Im out of the loop. Do eagle fans really climb light poles? Why? ",
"We do this in New Orleans every Mardi gras. ",
"That dumb even for a government worker",
"Or pools.",
"Hmmmm I hate to break it to you, but you're bisexual. No fully straight guy would ever do any of those things. ",
"You can see her naked all over the Vinyl series on HBO.\n\n",
"Because he knows tomorrow the boss is going to send him out to clean the grease off the poles",
"Estimate on property dmg to their own city?",
"Your Vikings got skol fucked",
"Do they need to go all the way to ground with it though? I'd just do the 6-10 foot range. Or to be really mean just do the 10-11 foot range.",
"Fuck your micro machines ",
"How would you like your crow cooked?",
"This is what we've come to...as the most advanced species in existence...",
"How isn't this going to lead to lawsuits?\n\nI get the premise is 'drunks shouldn't be climbing on things', but I can see someone just being drunk, and leaning on it, and splitting their head open.\n\nOr even presuming they decide to drunkenly climb on it. Wouldn't this be equivalent to making an otherwise predictable action dangerous, in a way that the city could be liable for?",
"Did they find a way to climb the poles? ",
"The Gang Joins a Riot",
"I loved the stadium announcer saying \"Show some class, this is Philadelphia\".",
"Every year at Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario, Canada the incoming engineering class has to get a hat from the top of a grease pole by forming a human pyramid around the pole. It's generally meant as a team building exercise.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQqEInP7rfg",
"I think you’re a lying fuck and don’t work with anyone from Philadelphia",
"Lol, that's the biggest larp of a subreddit I've ever seen. This guy wants to gimme a blow job but I'm straight, maybe I should do it? I'm totally gonna do it, it doesn't mean I'm gay. Lol just come to the conclusion you're gay. Jesus. It's legal now.",
"You said it, man.",
"Jungle juice!",
"Grease Police",
"im happy to eat crow on this one.",
"If they were intoxcicated at the time, they may not be liable somehow? I dunno, it seems like the defence would make that argument.",
"My friend Mike won the greasing of the poles contest not too long ago... \nhttps://youtu.be/S3XPKRQGUhM",
"That guy is literally getting paid for rubbing a large pole with lube while standing on a sidewalk of some gritty city street. ",
"I get that, and I don't think the drunk *should* have a leg to stand on.\n\nThat said, if someone gets drunk at a bar, and the bar neglected to de-ice it's sidewalk, they can be liable for unsafe conditions (with the premise being that drunk-or-no-drunk, there's ice that wasn't maintained).\n\nThis is pretty much the same bag, but worse, isn't it? Like, they're *overtly* trying to create the danger, with full fore-knowledge that people would intend to drunkenly climb about those things (which is why they're greasing them up in the first place).\n\nIt's the fore-knowledge part that's sticking with me. If you take actions with premeditation that leads to someone getting hurt, you're usually liable for that. ",
"It happened in 1968 can we please let the Santa snowball thing die...",
"It should make insertion a little easier.",
"Actual photo of half the population on December 1st 2017 after no nut November had ended, colorised ",
"Dilute in water put into back pack sprayer and get the shit done for a fraction of the price and a quarter of the time. Brake! ",
"Lol, i read your comment and thought it was something reddit would be and it would be \"bros\" offering \"bros\" free lance work.\n\nThen i read the top post and smh. ",
"/r/DrunkOrAKid/",
"If this is such a large part of the culture, they should just own it. Put cheesesteaks at the top.",
"Hahaha",
"Would philly even notice?",
"And she said that we’re done.",
"Holy crap this is amazing D:\n\nbrb mexico\n\n*puts on oversized sombrero*",
"It isn't revisionism, lots of NHL teams did the bracelet thing during that playoff year. It was planned long before Mr. Snider died.",
"They should spray it with liquid silicone instead. A lot less is needed and it's invisible nd much more slick and it's impossible to get off and it lasts forever.",
"The look on his face is the best....... this is my life now. ",
"That link is staying blue",
"Thats charlie work",
"Fats and oils are incredibly flammable. You can use it to start fires if you don't have kindling. ",
"Hopefully this leads to a it's always sunny superbowl.",
"Palo encebado",
"Kids are eating tide pods and adults are climbing poles while the president taunts a nuclear power on social media. We had a good run and those roman orgies are looking mighty tempting. Might as well go out with a bang. ",
"Super Bowl:\n- Brady wins 6th\n- Announcers try to find something they've never said about Brady\n- Eagles fans blame Foles\n\nGarbage Super Bowl.",
"I actually haven't heard anything about it, but probably.\n\n*edited to add:* Indeed, they found a way. http://6abc.com/sports/crisco-poles-did-not-stop-eagles-fans-from-climbing/2976371/",
"I hope so, [I want some more gems like this](https://youtu.be/GZdMtsWiDLo?t=6s)",
"sure seems fair. What about last night when they were throwing beer bottles at Minnisotta fans though. \n\n\nOnce they calm the fuck down we will be able to let things go.",
"Maybe they were pouring the bad tequila on themselves after drinking the god tequila.",
"https://twitter.com/KevinOnCFB/status/955403843017363461\n\ngood call...",
"prepping for civil unrest by making everything very flammable. hmm",
"Bunch of fuckin cunts if you ask me ",
"Lol I never denied that or said otherwise.\n\nWhen did I even call myself straight?! \n\nI literally call myself queer in the first couple sentences of my comment.\n\nI don't think I'm fully bi, but I wish I was, I'd have so many more partners to slut it up with.\n\nI wish hairy and masculine dudes did it for me, but there's nothing there. I also wish I was attracted to a wider array of sexual acts with the guys I do fuck around with, but even kissing turns me off. Their faces don't turn me on even when ultra twink, it's the act that does it for me. But again, I wish I was more attracted to men and not just this specific kind of act. With transwomen I'm into almost everything, including non-sexual kissing and contact and I'd have an absolute blast if I was truly bi. \n\nShit, I grew up in SF, I would have had even more fun than I already did. It's a shame I'm not, really. \n\nLol did you seriously think the dude who called himself queer and talked about getting head dozens of times from other males on a public forum is really embarrassed or squeemish about whatever title you want to put on it? ",
"Huh idk why, but I read that as you saying you were straight BUT etc etc. I think I was thinking of the rest of the thread as context, talking about guys who \"aren't gay\" but have power move sex or w/e. I wasn't trying to embarrass you or whatever you said, I just thought you were in denial lol. I don't have a problem with being gay/bi/whatever. Sorry, didn't mean to come off as a jerk. ",
"Hahaha",
"https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinOnCFB/status/955403843017363461?s=17",
"Bad culture = exponentially more germs",
"Ha no worries bro, I didn't take it as an insult.\n"
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Philly “Crisco Cops” are greasing the light poles to prevent Eagles fans from climbing them after the NFC Championship game tonight.
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"Unfortunately they weren’t all taken the exact same time of day, but I love that the tree on the right is really a tell of what season it is. ",
"That’s just beautiful, all the best to you guys! :)",
"Thank you! His front porch is honestly one of my favorite places! ",
"Whoever’s driving that truck sure is taking their time driving by the front walk. ",
"Haha! ",
"In the autumn, Captain America needed his shield back.",
"The wind had flipped it up onto the roof! We fixed it haha ",
"Did that banner...fall...in the third photo?",
"Probably but I like my version :)",
"The wind had blown it so it was folded up onto the roof ",
"I do love bunting\n",
"Now I like this op, very creative on your part, thanks for sharing this, n btw lovely view!!",
"Thank you! It was not intentional, i just happen to capture a good pic every few months and then realized during the winter that i probably had enough pics to put a collage together of each season. And i did! ",
"Rich people are the only ones who post it seems",
"I am not rich by any stretch. My bf does well. We don’t live together though. ",
"Where is this? Looks like my bf's home in VA",
"It’s in VA! ",
".... FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT",
"Haha. No fight. I completely trust my partner. ",
"This place looks amazing.",
"It really is ",
"Cool! We're in Harrisonburg",
"JMU DUUUUUUUUUKES "
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Took a picture from my boyfriends porch every season last year.
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[
"National disgrace ",
"Sore from you little march yesterday?",
"Oh, another sign...yay",
"Look at me, I'm protesting stuff",
"Yep. Not enough to protest his policies. You have to use a bad picture. Because that somehow matters. ",
"This is dumb",
"But really what will this sign accomplish? ",
"The 25% of Americans that voted for him sure do",
"\"What can we do to stop Trump?“\n\n“We will make some signs and walk around with them screaming at the sky\"\n\n\"Then what\"?\n\n\"That's it\" ",
"That's humorous.",
"Yes let's be dismissive and defeatist instead. That works so well!",
"....said no one. ",
"Mostly we talked about voting. Tennessee was 50th in voter turnout, so we’re trying to raise awareness and get people active. ",
"People who take their rights for granted while mocking the kinds of people who earned those rights for them.",
"Ha!",
"Petty and unconstructive nonsense. It's amazing that with someone as bad as Trump, people resort to exaggerations/lies about what he does or petty insults. Just tell the truth and act like an adult, that's all you need. He is the gift that keeps on giving regarding ammunition to discredit him. \n\nI hate both sides with all my heart. ",
"[It’s fake, according to Snopes.](https://www.snopes.com/trump-unflattering-image/)",
"It's not the best chin in the world, no.",
"You're right, but you're in the minority on reddit.",
"I don’t need Snopes to see that it’s Jabba the Hut",
"Wow, so like, trying to make an actual change?? Who woulda thought all these women would come out and actually try to accomplish something instead of the nothing a lot of the haters are suggesting. ",
"And then downvote my simple statement of fact?! Sad, really. ",
"I didn’t even notice that!!",
"We’re laughing to keep from crying. What’s the petty part?",
"Yeah. People are showing off for the other people reading. It is just another facet of tribal behavior. Just be aware of it in yourself and keep it in check. I love how you got more down votes than me so far. Oh Reddit....",
"And in real life",
"Are you making the argument that either OPs post or the sign it portrays is effective political activism? ",
"Gotta make sure everyone knows you hate Trump! Go over the top if you have, just as long as everyone knows!\n\n\\- /r/politics, if /r/politics was self aware and talked and stuff",
"What",
"Zoom in and enhance.",
"\"Then we'll post about it on an internet site.\"\n\"Then what?\"\n\"Argue about it in the comments\"\n\"What does that accomplish?\"\n\"It will mildly annoy the opposition that bothers to read it.\"",
"must have been the \"women's march\"\n\nlooks like they are really getting the message out there.... the one that says \"I don't like Trump and we're gonna act like we're in kindergarten, but at the same time cover it as virtue signaling\"",
"I don’t get it . I’m not joining marches but I also don’t discredit people who are trying to get their opinions heard. There seems to be no win situation. Either it is “the American people are lazy and apathetic” or “stupid useless march/petition/article/post”. Seriously, wtf do you people want? People to riot so they’re doing something effective? Oh wait no that’s barbaric. ",
"Another sign with dumb sexual innuendos trying to shame someone. Same people who insist shaming women based on appearance/genetics is bad, try to humiliate men based on theirs.",
"Why do Americans hate the concept of protesting now so much? What changed?",
"Can you provide a way to protest that doesn't offend you? Like what exactly should people do?",
"If sexism, racism and jingoism are great, I guess. ",
"What's wrong with jingoism?",
">earned their rights\n\nI really don't think Washington or Jefferson would call the president an ass. But I suppose they didn't know of King George was a big meanie or not.",
"They got theirs and the people protesting now are different than them.",
"It's pretty evident that you don't get it than. Holding up a sign with some stupid middle school insult shit on it isn't how you get people to join your cause, and you're solution to that is rioting, which just makes you're group a terrorist organization.",
"Uh huh. \nVery sad. ",
"I wasn’t talking about this sign specifically rather people who discredit the entire march or similar actions. This sign may be petty but it’s people’s way of voicing anger over real issues. Also the rioting thing I was just going to the logical conclusion of this type of activism being worthless but riots are obviously not ok. What I was trying to say is these cynical people who just hate on everyone taking action while they sit on the sidelines doing nothing are not smart or above it all but are just useless assholes. ",
"Wow I guess we have to impeach him then\n\n**DRUMPF BTFO**",
"That you think the situation is worth crying over",
"#DRUMPF BTFO",
"This sub needs new mods.",
"Using a photoshopped image?\n\nI don't like Trump, but doing things like this just takes away from your own validity. ",
"I have no stake in your country but I'm willing to bet you're descendent from people who moved there and took things from others. It also seems like if there was an IQ requirement you wouldn't be allowed in.",
"Why don't you show that face behind the sign?",
"This is getting ridiculous but I can't blame people. Trump is definitely the worst acting President in the American Politics history.",
"President Trump does have one big ass\n\nhe really does\n\nit's quite the booty\n\n",
"Run-on sentence much? \nMake America Punctuate again. \n",
"She held it that way. She’s shy, I guess. ",
"You, all take care. ",
"I don't really think this is shaming Trump on how he looks but more on how he acts.",
"I mean its hard to give the benefit of the doubt when all the time I hear about how he is orange and he has small hands. The bottom line is people try to take jabs at him by implying he has a small dick and is therefore less of a man than what he thinks he is. It just feels like if people really have a problem with the way he acts (i.e. his immaturity), they would surely not act that way.",
"No, just no.",
"Not everyone wants their picture all over the net. Don’t worry about it. ",
"No one has an issue with protesting actual things that need to be protested. People are sick of douchebags who really just want attention constantly screaming about the next thing on the list when the last 50 things they have cried wolf about have been nothing. ",
"Get a job",
"No you guys really seem to just hate protesting ",
"Who is \"you guys\"?",
"Thanks for the laugh!!",
"Then don't go to public displays of stupidity. ",
"Name calling lowers ourselves.",
"> actual things that need to be protested.\n\nThat's pretty subjective don't ya think?\n\n",
"No, protesting shit like the claimed \"shithole\" comment is a waste of time and energy when actual things like violations of civili liberties with things like drone strikes, unconstitutional spying on citizens, etc. are completely ignored by people who claim to care about the country. ",
"The pink pussy hats are now racist and sexist because not all wahmyn have pink pussies and not all wahmyn have pussies",
" A trump supporter ... fuck ...",
" I've got a job and I contribute to my country, now what about this fucking idiot that is too stupid to be President?\n\n Your comments, please.",
"Your pathetic attempts at \"protesting\" about this ass makes your country seem small. ",
"Nine sentences and not one of them coherent... \n\nAfter reading your comment I think I just got dumber. Maybe the greatest issue Americans need to deal with is elementary education. People can't communicate with such atrocious writing skills. I read that mess and have no clue what you were trying to say. This is America, please try to learn English.",
"I usually give up when I've read 200 words into a sentence and haven't seen a single punctuation mark. By that point I've long forgotton the subject of the sentence anyway. Reading anymore might kill brain cells.",
"He makes your country look like a shithole. Greets from Europe.",
"too stupid to be president....not sure that's criteria. If you don't like the result of the democratic process, then start a revolution. Like seriously. Let's go...off to the barricades! Leaders heads on spikes, blood in the streets. would be fun. But don't complain just to get someone \"better\", because ultimately will anything change?",
"The point---->\n\n Your Head",
"> It is just another facet of tribal behavior. Just be aware of it in yourself and keep it in check.\n\nNeeds to be a sticky on every sub",
"This is an anti trump protest under the guise of a women's march. It deserves zero respect for that lie alone.",
"It's an anti trump march. At least be honest if you want to be taken seriously.\n\nMore than 50% of white females voted for trump. ",
"Well hold on now, I've been taught by the liberals that its not just about the point but also about the delivery. The delivery needs to be politically correct otherwise the message is discarded regardless of validity ",
"Way to be ignorant. Trump constantly shows how immature and insecure he is. ",
"Trump should take your advice.",
"I would say that this isn't what someone would consider politically incorrect, but rather an adaptation of the \"does this ____ make my ass look big?\" trope that's been common in entertainment for quite some time. \n\nYour criticism of liberals btw is justified, though I feel it isn't entirely accurate. Plenty of lefty entertainers make points with raunchy, vulgar satire and humor that could easily be considered offense. The kind of lefty you mentioned definitely exists tho. ",
"Well calling him an ass is more based on how he acts like an ass than that he looks like one.",
"Protestors Signs = Old world memes.",
"If you've been defeated, doesn't being defeatist make you a realist? 🤔",
"Well thank you Sir\n because you're one of those people that probably had a silver spoon in their ass that mommy probably breastfed you till whatever age but always remember this the person that's always better than you will always be the person that understands\n not everybody grew up with parents some people grow up in a broken system because their parents had passed at an early age \nso with that being said (Chillpill247365)\nInstead of asking\nYou attack like many other cowards on a post because in the outside world you would be the first one to put a fake smile on\n knowing that your words can get your hurt or worse\n out in the physical world so you feel tough and safer in here so you sad pathetic soul take care and please remember to make something great is by fixing it not trying to make fun of it and bullying and trying to see if your special. \n(Chillpill247365)\nThat only shows me signs of how sad and pathetic you are. ",
"[DoEs THiS AsS mAKe My CoUnTRy](http://imgur.com/CPJLlRz.jpg)",
"Write or call your representatives. Vote outside your party lines. Have constructive conversations with opponents to try to sway them instead of name calling that just widens the divide. Get involved with your local and state government. Run for public office. Contribute to election funds for politicians you believe in. There are many constructive ways to try to make a change. Posting photos of childish signs at a rally and arguing about them online isn't one of them. ",
"so like are you against any form of protesting? like if this was during the civil rights movement you would say the same thing ",
"Protesting 2018 has become real life memes. Its sad really.",
"Tell me the exact message this sign is trying to convey.",
"President Trump does\nHave one big ass, he does. It\nIs quite the booty",
"It's Jabba the Hutt photoshopped under his real chin.",
"deleted ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^0.6629 [^^^What ^^^is ^^^this?](https://pastebin.com/FcrFs94k/10872)",
"Get this pussy-grabber out of here!",
"Actually, it's better to be triumphant and proud. You should join the winning team, get on the Trump Train! ",
"Everyone is so outraged",
"I should hope so! Treason is a pretty serious crime. ",
"I'm talking about everyone in the comments whether they agree or disagree with the picture. Don't be condescending.",
"No but your ring does.",
"Don’t read tone into written comments. I’m agreeing with you. ",
"Yes ",
"Yeah it's such a good photograph right? the lighting, the way the shadows play with themselves, OP pleasuring themselves. just great."
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"Looks like an exaggerated version of Las Vegas.",
"I’d love to hear from someone here that actually lives in Dubai about what it’s like there",
"That’s one of the places in the world in which slavery still exists",
"slavery gets you far",
"Anyone? Rich person? Poor person?\n\nI'm sure the differences between the two would be staggering. I watched a documentary about how many workers there are slaves to people that paid to relocate so they could work. Then the amount they promised is 1/100th what they said and now they 'owe' the person that paid to get them into the country. Essentially making them modern day slaves. Their living conditions are horrible and they have no ability to change their fate.\n\nhttps://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/4waq9n/the-slaves-of-dubai",
"Slavery is one thing that made it possible for the USA to break off from Britain.",
"This is what I came here to say, lol. Looks kinda like LA",
"Chattel slavery*. Slavery is still in play today. It's merely been modernised to adapt to today's world. ",
"... Is a decent looking community with roofers hard at work?",
"I have an irrational hatred of this place, and I can't pinpoint why. I'm usually pretty easy going, but I want to see an asteroid level that city. Why...",
"And slavery is still wrong.\nThere are reportedly many thousands of people living in slavery today all around the world.",
"Yeah, this is less dramatic than most rough areas in and around the cities of the world. Other than Japan, I don't think I know a single city that doesn't have an area worse than this.",
"No shortage of old satellite dishes. ",
"Madness blooms like flowers in the spring.",
"Doesn't justify its usage though, you morally cannot justify owning a human being.",
"I've been a few times, my girlfriend used to work for Emirates. When people ask what Dubai is like I usually say \"it's Vegas without the sin.\" It's a desert mirage, put up hastily and tastelessly with no regard for proper municipal planning or the environment. It attracts those who care only about money and excess. Dubai isn't modern or impressive. It's an exercise in gaudiness.",
"I was there and took a few wanders around the less glamorous areas a few years ago. Actually quite nice in a way. About a million times more cultural than the blinged up parts.",
"No doubt, it has always been wrong. ",
"This looks like the back of Satwa looking back towards Sheik Zayed Road. It is all older buildings and still has sand roads between the houses. I lived there as an ex-pat in 2000ish in an old Arabic style villa, which was rare because it we were the only ex-pats for quite a few blocks. The locals were always nice and friendly.\n",
"You should play Spec Ops the Line! :)",
"youre purposely missing the point. unless the roofers that did your house laid some sheets down and weighted them with bricks.",
"I do not and have not lived in Dubai, but my understanding from some other visitors is that this area of one and two story buildings is the old core of the city. It is built on a street grid laid out in British colonial times and is where a lot of the cultural activity and arts goes on. It may look poor, but as analysis such as found on strongtowns.org shows these areas may be much more dynamic and profitable than the showy towers in the park developments nearby. Chain stores can afford fancy recently built facilities, but ordinary artisans are limited to older building stocks.",
" I'm hoping that isn't the final design. Maybe they're just laying them out before nailing them down. ",
"Yeah, I was gonna say.. just like any other city.",
"One of the worst places in the world if you have any sort of a conscience. \n\nMore info > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb_pBhWi1YM",
"Right now is their gilded age. ",
"Are you honestly suggesting that being owned by another man, discriminated against, abused, forced to work unpaid is better than being represented by a government thousands of miles away whose taxation schemes you disagree with? \n\n\nIf America was so concerned with liberty, it was looking to the wrong place when becoming independent.",
"Thanks for the insight. I was going on looks alone, but this makes it more tangible in my mind.",
"Nice! That chuckle made me poop more ",
"Dude that looks nothing like LA. ",
"You got it backwards.\nI’m saying slavery is wrong.\nIt always has been wrong.\nSadly, there are more people in slavery now than there were in the 17th century.",
"I completely agree",
"These houses have tin rooves.",
"I noticed that also.",
"RemindMe! 20 Years",
"Job security, free food, free housing, no taxes, not having to do things like grocery shopping unless it's your job and a huge community of people with the same background as you, slavery sounds awesome tbh ...",
"Lived there for 18 years, what do you want to know",
"I don't think they get much rain there. I was in Peru recently and it's amazing how a society builds different when water doesn't pour from the sky. Their downtown didn't have curbs. It went from sidewalk directly to pavement. ",
"They also take their passports. ",
"I know there are a lot of people enslaved today, but I question how we can know with any reliability how many people were enslaved in the 17th century if we're counting illegal slavery in both cases.",
"Every major city has a rough side of town",
"Figure its like visiting antibelum south before civil war. Try and enjoy the mansions, beautiful living and rich lifestyle, try to ignore the slave shacks.",
"now that I live in a country that is not as rich as mine, I know that quality of life can be judged by different metrics. For example, maybe their roof is being held down by rocks, but happiness and quality of life can still be excellent. Don't judge another society by your (my) own standards. \n",
"Yeah that's not even that bad for an Arab city.... ",
"Haha! Seriously. LA looks nothing like this. Wtf",
"Holy shit!",
"Yup. You could do a way shittier looking juxtaposition photo of Manhattan from Queens. Plenty of construction and industrial areas right up by the river. \n\nAll about the right spot and the right angle. ",
"Vegas without the sin sounds like a sad place.",
"I think most folks who live there are hesitant to post anything critical on the internet. \nTake a look at [this article](http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai-1664368.html). It’s a good representation of life in Dubai. ",
"this is no longer true and hasn't been for years. Since 2013, there has been a functioning sewer system. That video is from 2009 when the sewer system could not keep up with construction ",
"Dubai is part of UAE, NOT Saudi Arabia",
"...Oh. I will delete my comment.",
"Why are people assuming you're advocating slavery? This is clearly a fun fact/guess.",
"There is sin alright, you just have to know the right people. ",
"Dubai is such a strange city. It didn't occur naturally, where a town grows over time and then develops a central commercial area which is the \"city\" while its surrounded by residential areas ect. Its just a metropolis in the middle of the desert. Driving there from the coast was empty roads and sand. There was maybe 2 smaller towns along the main road with hotels/food ect and then the final 10miles or so are just sand. \n\nIf you've never been to the middle east, there is sand everywhere. Its in the air. You can only see maybe 5 miles in the distance and then its just a brown haze. By the time you are close enough to Dubai that you can see the Burj Khalifa, its already above you. Like you have to look up 40+ degrees to see the top. There's a small shanty city around the actual city where presumably all the workers live. That's it. Looking at this picture, I wouldn't be surprised if 20 feet behind the photographer is just endless sand.",
"I lived in the middle east for around 10 years, and yes, dubai is a very strange city, it just developed within 50 years, to be in some cases better than new york city. But the thing is, they have money and labor, pretty much all you need to build a city. Its a very interesting case anyway.\n",
"Could you realistically take a trip there and spend similar to what you would in a major US city like Chicago/Dallas/LA/NYC/DC (staying in Airbnb/hotels ~100-150/night, eating nice but not crazy maybe $50-100 dinner for 2) or is it just absurdly expensive?",
"Looks like Las Vegas.",
"It’s just a bunch of Internet goons trying to muck with me, they don’t care about anything or anybody but themselves ",
"https://i.imgur.com/g5PpSVb.jpg",
"Vegas is designed better than almost every other city in the US i don't know what you people are talking.",
"Id rather live in a house with outdoor space then in a stack of humans ",
"It's not a fact. It's a guess. I think the united states would have faired well irregardless of slavery.",
"I lived in Dubai, then lived in Vegas, and then lived in Dubai again. You're absolutely right. A major strip (LV Blvd / SZH), highrises on both sides, behind which are parking garages, and then lowrise buildings as far as the eye can see...very similar IMHO.",
"Just about every Canadian city doesn't have areas that look that scabby. (with the exception of east hastings in Vancouver)",
"Actually archeologists and historians no longer believe they were built by slaves. They were salaried workers. But you never know. It could have been a mix of both. ",
"I’m curious what the Middle East countries are gonna do when the world successfully moves away from oil. ",
"During a sandstorm maybe. I use to regularly drive up to Dubai from Oman to get my motorcycle serviced and you could often see the burg Khalifa from tens of miles away.\n\nI don't understand your comment 'driving from the coast' Dubai is entirely on the coast. You'd have to drive from somewhere like Al Ain or Kalba and that's nearer 80 miles. ",
"Some countries such as the UAE developed a stable economy that could sustain it when oil demand goes down, they have companies, banks, commerce, tourism, etc, but other countries such as Saudi Arabia have nothing and will most likely turn to shit unless they develop an income within the next 10 years or so.\n",
"Not really. This photo doesn't show the shipping containers that many of the construction workers live in. These guys will have had their passports taken from them and are virtually bound to their employers. They’ll be paid a pittance to work in +50 degC\n",
"In temp of more than 50 deg Celsius. ",
"The place isn’t just gaudy, it’s downright evil",
"Money and labor but they spend very very little of their money on the labour. ",
"Because it represents the absolute worst aspects of humanity. There is no soul, no charity, no community anywhere. It is an exercise only on the worship of money. Nothing is built by passion or beauty but only in an attempt to impress by monetary value. ",
"Looks like capitalism at its finest.",
"It's cheaper than you think. I find Europe much more expensive. \n\nAbout Airbnb I'm not sure cause I didn't really use it when I lived there, but a girl from my class managed to go there and stay around Dubai Marina (pretty damn nice area) on a student budget, so it probably isnt too bad.\n\nFood depends on where you go. A fancier place will be pricey but most restaurants are reasonably priced or even cheap. I find it hard to spend more than 100dhs (sub $30ish) on a meal at a restaurant including drinks unless it's a pretty pricey place or I get steak/seafood.\n\nTaxis and uber are cheap, you can use metro too but I'd stick with cabs since it's not a very pedestrian friendly city. Metro does however take you to pretty much every main location.\n\nEntertainment is where it gets pricey. All the water and theme parks or pools/hotel private beaches have quite high entry fees. If you want to go to the beach try to stay by Jumeirah Beach Residence, nice beach and a lot of places to eat at or have shisha.\n\nIf you drink, there are a lot of bars and clubs that serve alcohol but expect high prices ($11 for a typical macro beer) and the clubbing scene is a bit weird from what I heard.\n\nI'd recommend not to go during summer, it's too hot and humid. Around spring or autumn is much better. Even winter is pretty damn warm.",
"My experience is more in Abu Dhabi than in Dubai, but there's an INCREDIBLE bar and night club scene out there; you don't even need to get into \"you've gotta know a guy\" territory.",
"Yea my cousin Yazick used to live there... No bueno",
"Yeah who else is going to buy gold planes for the royal family???",
"/r/urbanhell/ ",
">in some cases better than new york city.\n\n😂",
"Shithole country",
"If you've travelled a bit you will know that in practically any city there's options to go absurdly expensive, reasonable, and cheap. \n\nYou can get ok places with decent locations for less than $90 a night or you can go to the Palm and spend a rack every night. It's up to you the kind of experience you want. \n\nWith food again it's the same deal. Go to \"salt bae\"s nusret restaurant and get $300 steaks or find an off the radar restaurant and eat for *far* less.\n\nIf you want to drink tho it's expensive everywhere 😂 (only drink during happy hour really)\n",
"No, because they have money.\n",
"What kind of commerce are countries like UAE engaged in? What products do they make or services do they provide? ",
"Fishing, aluminum, fertilizers, cement, handicrafts, pharmaceuticals, tourism, foreign banks and of course Oil.",
"Also Flint still doesn't have clean water",
"The middle east is not all sand. Most people in the region do not live in sandy areas.",
"No that is something built on top of the roof. If you look at the other buildings they have normal or flat roofs.",
"Just like any other successful city... You can't get to the top without standing on some backs ; )",
"I've been to both, NYC sucks big time compared to Dubai...",
"Some people are afraid of heights ",
"Are you serious?? Still?",
"Oh, you can absolutely do it. \n\nI go there for work for a few weeks every couple years or so, and pricing is right on par with - even favorable to in some cases - any large US city.",
">irregardless ",
"Im not sure what you’re talking about. Even the worst looking areas of Queens look nicer. The poor in NYC are rich compared to most of the indentured migrants of Dubai. ",
"its look village ",
"Looks like Vegas",
"Trust me, with the heat you get in Dubai, sheetmetal roofing is NOT what you want. And you can bet your ass that most of these houses don't have AC. \n\nI don't get what people are thinking saying this is a normal looking neighborhood outside of a city, I've been directly in these neighborhoods, and it is NOT nice. These people live in poverty, but because they kinda clean up after themselves people are saying it's nice? There's also much worse neighborhoods than this bordering Dubai, mostly consisting of the slave labour used to build the city in the first place.",
"It actually [does](https://i.imgur.com/WOI7n98.jpg). ",
"Other than \"short buildings in front of tall buildings\" this place looks nothing like Vegas. I've been to Dubai, and I've lived in Vegas my whole life, even the shit-end of North Las Vegas is a hundred times better than this or similar neighborhoods. Last time I checked, we don't have housing with sheetmetal roofing weighed down by bricks. Even the abandoned buildings inhabited by squatters are in better shape than these...",
"Doesn't look bad",
"Youre assuming the connotation.",
"I'm just saying I've been to Dubai twice and its a giant metropolis surrounded by nothing. And its sand... or fine dirt. Its in the air you can see it.",
"Wow so many uninformed people hating on the UAE without ever staying here.",
"There are luxury villas under construction covered by dust and sand? ",
"Thank you for this, it’s good to see that the people who clean those building don’t live as lavish as they propose they do",
"Wealth inequality to the extreme, the USA's wet dream.",
"Nah.. Dubai reaches levels of depravity that Las Vegas doesn't even know exists. How about strapping foreign immigrant kids (five year olds) into saddles on camels so they can pretend to be jockeys for your racing spectacle in front of assembled princes and kings.",
"I'm certain there are beautiful places with amazing people and vibrant culture. The cities are a cesspool of advertising and ego blowing beyond measure though. Not to mention the slave labor involved with this countries unsustainable behavior (especially Abu Dhabi) \n\nThey're making the biggest and the best while they sit on oil money, but it won't last forever and putting zero investment into your own people can only end badly. ",
"I got into a taxi in Dubai and said, take us to a bar where we can meet some women.\n\nHe took us to a bar full of hookers. Like classy escort hookers. Lots of them.\n\nTrust me Dubai has plenty of sin, and it's no secret. ",
"Where in the world does slavery not exist? \n\nYou could say this about pretty much everywhere but those countries with like 5 people, or Antarctica. ",
"You sure can. Taxi driver asked me what I wanted for the night, \"Men, women, boys. Any nationality, any number. You can do what you want in Dubai\" he proudly said to me with a wink. Taxi driver worked for the hotel which is owned by the ruling monarchy.",
"Looks like a~~n exaggerated~~ **joyless** version of Las Vegas.\n\n",
"That really isn't very representative of Dubai at all. \n\nThere are extreme stories that make things sound crazy, but the UAE is like many countries, the wildly crazy stories are there, but not the norm.\n\nIt would be like saying [this](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/200000-children-married-us-15-years-child-marriage-child-brides-new-jersey-chris-christie-a7830266.html) is representative of the US. ",
"Newspaper in Dubai had two headlines that reflected life there. One was the police announced no crime in that quarter for a particular city sector. That's largely because they don't record any crimes unless they're committed by foreigners in which case if reflects well on them. The second was a plea to the community to keep a watch out for a woman who had escaped from a hospital and her husband. Not many people in the west have to escape from a hospital.",
"These buildings are not occupied by the people who clean or build the lavish skyscrapers. Those people live in stacked shipping containers.",
"I said \"exaggerated\".",
"SA is already turning to shit. A country that floated on a sea of oil is now recording budget deficits and desperately looking for ways to avoid the overthrow of their royal families.",
"It's honestly very similar to NYC. Lots of glamour, just ignore the homeless and drug addicts under the bridges. \n\nOr London, just ignore Brixton or Peckham. ",
"At least poor, homeless and addicts can leave if they want. Foreign workers were the boss holds their passport dont have that freedom.",
"The middle east is much bigger than Dubai is all I'm saying.",
"They do have that freedom now. Since 2009 the UAE has made huge improvements to combating the indentured servitude practice. \n\nPlus now that visa information can be stored on a smart phone you can go right to the GDRFA to report your passport lost or stolen, and receive a letter allowing you to leave the country and return to your country of origin. \n\nThey can also go to their consulate, typically Indian or Pakistani. \n\nAlso, where is a homeless drug addict going to go?",
"Las Vegas isn't my kind of town, but I was there in 2011 for a birthday. I went for a jog one morning and left the strip only to find an unusual number of office furniture companies. No idea what that was about. Nonetheless, this confirmed my suspicions that the decadence of the casinos doesn't spread.",
"[Behind Seattle's skyline](https://i.imgur.com/F05Hhpo.jpg)",
"I've been to Dubai and Bahrain and the air was basically 5% dust/sand. That's all I was describing. ",
"Except the point is the slums in the foreground. That picture has really nice houses",
"Branson Missouri was once described as \"Las Vegas as imagined by Ned Flanders\"\n\nDubai is Las Vegas as imagined by rich Arabs.\n\nYou know the Trump \"aesthetic\" of gold trim and overpriced conspicuous consumption-ism ? Same shit. Only the sex, drinking and gambling are all underground.",
"I’m waiting to hear the rest of the story!",
"The polish guy didn't realize they were hookers and thought everyone was super nice and he felt like a million bucks. We didn't tell him, but we did drag him out, and we all went to Burger king because it's really friggin good and the only thing open at 2am. ",
"Neat.",
"Is this facing south towards Sheik Zayed Road? I went to a primary school in Satwa during the early 90s and it's surprising how the view has changed. ",
"*owen wilson voice* Wow",
"Take the picture from a half mile closer and you'd see plenty of unsightly homes. ",
"My first thought was this looks like pretty much every major city I've been to with a skyline.",
"haha, sounds a bit like my night in Dubai, unfortunately I had a plane to catch that morning so shenanigans were kept to a minimum. ",
"The richer ME countries like Qatar and UAE will be just fine. \n\nI don't think you're understanding that the people in the slums here are not Dubai's \"own people\". These are migrant workers.\n\nAlmost every native is very well off.",
"they were well-paid workers, but paid in bread and wine",
"Ahh, Bar Dubai. Great textile suk.",
"Been there. Most of it is a desert wasteland with many uninhabited and unused buildings.",
"Looks as good or better than most places in America.",
"5% VAT is taxing the crap? (Not including the various fees for everything, of course).",
"Have you actually been to Dubai to justify your hatred? Or is it based on the things you've read on the internet?",
"Nice to see them all enjoying the camping opportunity.",
"Doha is the same way, except the skyscrapers are more futuristic.",
"Reminds me of naked city that’s tucked right behind the stratosphere ",
"Okay, would you change your opinion when presented INFORMED opinions?",
"Unfortunately those roofers are probably slaves. The overwhelming majority of UAE's population are foreign laborers who get their passports confiscated and often have their wages stolen too. ",
"I've payed to fire babies out of a trebuchet in vegas. ",
"While you’re making a valid socioeconomic point about the relative wealth of New Yorkers and Emiratis, there are definitely parts of Queens and Brooklyn that make this look nice in comparison.",
"Somehow I think you might be exaggerating a tad",
"Nope. Shot them into rattlesnake pits behind t mobile center.",
"I would be hard pressed to be convinced there was NO slave labor used at all given the prevalence of slavery in the ancient world.",
" I agree. They might have had salaried tradesmen but if you have slaves might as well use em. It was a gigantic project. ",
"That's the thing though, you've been there. We haven't and this picture doesn't portray the actual poverty that well. Tin roofs may look bad, but they don't mean anything. I see no signs of graffiti or vandalism, which on the other hand mean a lot.",
"Lost Vegas ",
"'Slaves were harmed in the building of this Burger Kong'",
"I love \"Big(ger) Ben\"!",
"Agreed, lived there 8 years. If you know the place there is more sin than Vegas. ",
"I live in Dubai. That picture location is actually pretty near my home. What do you want to know?",
"absolute no need for those skyscrapers. Its not a land constraint country. nevertheless its a good attempt at resembling vegas.\n",
"Because you can’t stand the thought of a well off and proposer middle eastern city. It doesn’t fit your preconceived notions. Maybe you’re a racist piece of shit. Maybe. ",
"Well, I used to live there and visit my parents occasionally, with the implemented 5% VAT people are leaving since the appeal of not having to pay taxes was what drew in a lot of people.",
"Also looks like an exaggerated version of Mumbai, India.",
"Bullshit. Those laws passed are only to save face in-front of the western world. In practice, employers still take away their employees' passports on the premise that if the employee doesnt like it, they can go back home. That is economic slavery/abuse.\n\nI used worked in a major restaurant chain as an accountant and guess what, my passport was taken away too. Got all the proof in the world before I got out :)\n\nOh and not only the passports were taken away, employees were also placed under curfew where they had to be home by 10pm or lose pay, were not allowed to get driving licenses, were not allowed to have guests of the opposite sex in their room among numerous bullshit rules to keep them in 'check' while the sheikhs got high off cocaine somewhere in France.\n\nIve seen a ton of shills like you every time Dubai is mentioned btw, hilarious how you try to explain yourself to uniformed westerners and try to weasel away when someone like me who went through that hell shows up. ",
"Yep, here is what tourists visiting the place enable.\n\n> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgPnsid4r5s\n",
"Do buy.",
"Until you need to cross the main drag.",
"Why doesn't a human rights organization zip right into the Emirates and verify these people?",
"I think I see a tiny ^Tom ^^Cruise ^^^atop ^^^^the ^^^^^steeple ^^^^^^there.",
"Powerful pic",
"You do realize not ALL migrants are poor right? Also these are not slums, I know in the pics it might seem like it, but the houses are normal houses. That’s not even the point though. Yes, there might be a lot of negatives in terms of the salaries paid to the blue collar workers but not like the other countries are perfect. I was in US for 4 years and the living conditions and wages of some people I’ve seen there was worse. I’m not denying the bad or just glorifying the good, i just feel like people should actually live here and then form their opinions and not judge based on a visit or what they hear and see on tv. That’s just me of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion.",
"Ive lived here ( 20 years) and in the US( 4 years) and I think I have enough information to make an INFORMED opinion for myself.",
"I was in Dubai just last weekend and fired up Tinder, didn't expect much but then I noticed that every other profile was an escort ad. Never seen that anywhere else (other than some lady boys in Thailand but they aren't too common). There were even Emirates openly drinking in the hotel lounge (although that was an exec/invitation only lounge), that I definitely didn't expect.",
"You may be right about that, and it’s a sad commentary on the human race.",
"I'd say it's full of exaggerations. I've seen both sides. I've worked in foreign aid in Bangladesh for 4 years, and my ex lived in Dubai. I've been maybe a dozen times.\n\nI didn't read the whole article, but the first story sounds like other expats I've heard about, who get blinded by the luxury lifestyle, get into debt, then aren't allowed to leave without paying up. They go there for the money, knowing where they're going. They get sucked in, live beyond their means, then try to just leave when the debt becomes unmanageable. Dubai doesn't let them. Sure, the conditions are inhumane, but why should you be allowed to go into debt in another country and then just run off?\n\nThe Bangladeshi worker may get cheated like that, but the majority doesn't. Why would thousands a year continue to go if they did? Don't you think word would get around? Sure, they work hard, in conditions unacceptable to a rich Westerner. They live in bad conditions by your standards, but so do most Bangladeshis. At home, the work on a farm is hard too, and it's hot and humid, and gets flooded during monsoon. They make more money in Dubai than at home, and some bring skills back which improve their situation. Most bring back money. I've seen so many workers going home with brand jeans and sunglasses, or huge houses built in small villages. Many never go back, cause their life is simply better than in rural Bangladesh (or Pakistan, or India, or Nepal...). In a way, they are similar to the Western expats, who go only for the money.\n\nEvery story has two sides, and in general, life is tough for most people in this world. A lot tougher than for middle class Westerners (including me).\n\nEdit: And the currency of Bangladesh is Taka, not takka.",
"You do know that 90% of the population in UAE are expats/migrant workers right? If things changed in the country, economy grows stagnant etc then there would be an exodus of expats leaving the country and you would stand with your pants down and UAE will quickly fall into disrepair. It is a quite dangerous house of cards that UAE has built, right now you reap the benefits from it but it can really quickly turn the other way.",
"My sister lives in Dubai and this pretty much sums up what she has said about the place. Basically it is all for show, but in reality Dubai is very backwards. There is no recycling of any kind which annoys her a lot.",
"Looks like Miami lol.",
"Looks like dust 2",
"Many thousands of people living in slavery in the whole world is actually not that bad, that's like 0.000014% of the worlds population.\nIts probably something to be proud of. \n",
"I get your point, but my numbers are probably on the small end.\nI would like the world to be free, equitable, and healthy for all people.",
"[lol, only an hour later!](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rycz4/behind_dubais_skyline/dt1hz0p)",
"Japan sez: congratruation, [you're in luck!](https://youtu.be/HKpFWGZxLKg) (ignore the retarded title)\n\nlol, I love how many people from there in the comments are complaining about it, yeah well maybe everyone got fucking tired of seeing New York/Tokyo all the damn time!",
"[Japan seems to be!](https://youtu.be/HKpFWGZxLKg)",
"They just call that a 'commune' today.",
"Not really, all their neighbours manage to outdo them consistently. Plus at least the climate is stable outside of the heat.",
"Are you White?",
"You know the stereotypes of NYC, especially in the 80s, empty suits in empty buildings with no interest but talking about loans and mergers?\n\nReplace the business suits with whatever ya call that traditional Arab headgear and call it a day.",
"They do. What good does it do?",
"Nope. Why?",
"> it's too hot and humid.\n\nIf Dubai isn't something then it's humid. It's incredibly dry, like Vegas. Actually the two climates are quite comparable. ",
"It definitely is humid. From what I found the humidity goes up to 50-60% in summer",
"If you think that's humid you've clearly never been to Singapore or Taipei in summer. ",
"tall buildings to try and hide the poverty ",
"It's still relatively humid making it uncomfortable. It's not like if other places are more humid then it means it isn't humid there. \n\nOtherwise you couldn't call -10C cold because you obviously never went to the north pole",
"Poverty? That is just a regular old neighborhood. This one has running water, electricity, air conditioners, TV dishes and cars.",
"k the point is that skyline *is* Dubai, but theres poverty right behind it that is rarely in focus. and again, i hope your roof is not some metal sheets weighted or nailed down. ",
"Yeah you just sound ignorant. You think Dubai is hot? Go to Venus and try to last one summer there. ",
"If they verify that the people are there on their own free will, then they aren't slaves.",
"Venus? You clearly havent been to the Sun during the day",
"At least Vegas has a working Sewer System.. while in Dubai a lot of the skyscrapers are serviced by TurdTankers. \nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Hv8IHA3ig",
"> This photo doesn't show\n\nThat is the point. This looks like a nice part of Mexico where they also do a lot of cinder block building.\n\n",
"Also: no sewers or other municipal systems. They just do each building in isolation. It's insane.",
"pfff you clearly never stuck your penis in the large hadron collider",
"> In practice, employers still take away their employees' passports on the premise that if the employee doesnt like it, they can go back home. That is economic slavery/abuse.\n\nSo do they take away their passports, or do they tell them to go home? \n\nIf they can leave and go home it's not slavery... ",
"Umm no way traffic on the strip is still miles better than any other city",
"Yeah... and they *don't* verify that. ",
"Those holy books tell me this is the birthplace of sin...",
"Yeah, I've lived in Dubai all my life and I understand. A look inside these \"houses\" will show you that it's shared by many more people/families than is considered safe or hygienic. A lot of the comments here that state that people who are uncomfortable with Dubai's growth are just racist simply don't understand what goes into this kind of \"growth.\" This city was built on the backs of millions of slave laborers and continues to do so. There's blood on the hands of the city's leaders. "
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"Photographer: Angela Chong",
"awesome ",
"yea looks a little over processed to me too. Great composition otherwise ",
"Looks like an image I could make using just a long exposure and graduated neutral density filter.\n\nThis type of shot has been made long before photoshop. ",
"What? ",
"Not overdone with processing. You just haven’t done landscape photography. \n\nCheck out Galen Rowell’s Yosemite pictures on google. He shoots on slide film, no post processing. You’ll see similar results. ",
"Ah ok. Thank you. ",
"Shhh! Don't tell the Oregonians about this *super secret* spot or they're going to come to California and buy up all of our real estate!",
"Looks like the Yosemite karma train has, once again, left the station. \n\n(Great shot though)",
"\"When no longer able to retain their colour, Trump's hairpieces are released into the wild in an undisclosed location\"",
"Vanilla Skyrim",
"i wanna visit there ",
"Beautiful, but the \"sharpen\" filter is on steroids."
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"Yosemite Valley View"
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"Canon 70D\n35mm (Sigma 17-50mm)\n1/500, f2.8, ISO 100",
"Absolutely epic shot!",
"Yeah, dressing up as a pussy rarely is..... \n\nPeople with too much time on their hands, in my opinion. \n\nHe'll be there for the next 3 years. The time to act is on voting day. \n\nI wonder how many of these fine folks actually voted?\n\nSeriously, do these people seem rational to you? \n\nhttps://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/lady-part-costumes-ruled-the-womens-march-171016296.html",
"Too bad there are not that many people marching for NORML...",
"Now there's a protest I could actually get behind.",
"Is every protest a waste of time, or just the ones you don’t agree with?",
"The right to protest is a cornerstone of any functioning democracy. \n\nThe reality is, however, that a protest won't remove this man; only voting will. \n\nCan you kindly explain to me what, exactly, was the point of this protest? Aside from an excuse for some to dress up as vadges, of course?\n\nAlso, are you aware of who is leading these marches? \n\nEdit: spelling ",
"They are protesting against the president for his sexual abuse accusations, supporting a pedophile, paying off porn stars, and his continued attack on women’s rights. \n\nWake the fuck up. ",
"While being led by a woman's rights activist who supports Sharia law, misogyny personified.... figure that one out!\n\n\nIf there was a shred of reliable, credible evidence against him in relation to the alleged sexual assaults, given the media animosity towards him, it would be used to destroy him. \n\nHis support of Roy Moore was deplorable, but democracy ensured that Roy Moore was not elected. \n\nHe's being investigated by Richard Mueller, former FBI director, in relation to alleged collusion with Russia; I'd trust him to do his job, but at this point, it doesn't seem like anything is going to stick. \n \nI say again: one of the principle leaders of these marches is a supporter of Sharia law, has claimed that any supporter of Israel cannot be feminist and has been accused of covering up sexual abuse allegations in her own Brooklyn offices!\n\nWake up yourself, you absolute moron, and look what you're standing behind and beside!\n\nEdit: spelling (again)\n\n\n",
"LOL",
"What a profound comeback. \n\nYou're really flying the flag there.",
"I don’t fly flags or argue with fucking idiots on the internet. \n\nFuck off. ",
"\"I don't fly flags\"\n\nYes, you do. Source: your entire second reply\n\nYou also specialise in loaded questions. Source: first reply\n\nYou also engage in ad hominem rather than engaging the substantive point I've made. Source: \"fuck off\"\n\nFinally, you approached me, not the other way around, you utter cretin, so it would be you doing the fucking off. \n\nIn addition; here is some evidence about the accusations Linda Sarsour is facing (that's who I'm talking about, BTW, as you don't strike me as being very informed): \n\nhttps://nypost.com/2017/12/18/womens-march-organizer-accused-of-covering-up-sex-abuse/\n\nhttp://www.washingtonexaminer.com/womens-march-co-founder-linda-sarsour-accused-of-enabling-sexual-assault-threatening-victim/article/2643812\n\nHave a nice life now....... \n\nLol",
"all wrong and fake news",
"His support for Roy Moore, an alleged paedophile and former Alabama Senator and candidate in the recent election, is well documented.\n\nThe rest is unsubstantiated gossip.",
"Haters, gonna hate. Losers, gonna lose. ",
"Our president is a misogynist, fascist, and bigot, and you'd rather talk about smoking weed than changing that? ",
"Hey there,\n\nDon't let these bigots and assholes disuade you. Your pic is awesome and thanks for sharing!",
"The fact that you think a protest by a pack of clowns wearing vaginas on their heads, led by a \"woman's rights activist\" who supports Sharia law can change who the president of the US is says it all. \n\nAt least OP's proposed protest might actually achieve something. ",
"Did you pull that straight off Trump’s Twitter, or did you come up with that all by yourself?",
"The Russian bots are out in full force today. ",
"TIL I’m Russian and a bot! Fuck these posts and fuck these meaningless, whining “protests” that lack self awareness and actual morals.",
"Sorry snowflake ;)",
"Triggered snowflake is triggered by women standing up for themselves. You are so special. ",
"What is the actual goal of the protest? I’m all for people standing up for **something** that is actually real. Like Gay marriage. I am gay so I supported that, because there is an actual end goal, and there was leadership, and a coherent message. This “protest” is just people whining about various *injustices* they perceive in their life. No message, no leaders, and no goal. This was by definition a shit protest. ",
"Why is snowflake an insult for you? They are beautiful... so thanks! Also, you should learn how to have proper discourse. This irrational behavior from the left is just sinking to the level on the right. It’s possible to be liberal and hate this shitty ass protest because it lacks anything that would actually make it meaningful. Namely, an actual end goal. \n\nBEEP BOOP I AM A BOT",
"Honestly, it doesn’t matter. People can and should protest for whatever they want. That’s how rights work. ",
"Not going to disagree and deny them that right. I can still say it’s a shitty demonstration and I hate it all the same too. It’s just people who have a victim complex, that’s how I see it. Specifically because there is nooooo goal, none. Their website is just a bunch of virtue signaling buzzwords with no meaning or tangible/measurable goal. It’s hogwash and this protest is just a waste in the sense it will achieve nothing. ",
"Cool story. ",
"Cool rebuttal! All the more reason to support these dumbass protests and pics! :)",
" All that rambling boiled down to “I’m allowed to be mad at stuff I don’t like”. You made no actionable argument or defense. You blame them for protesting with no point, yet you yourself have no point for making these kids of posts, except to get some attention and let people know how mad you really are.\n\nNo one cares about your feelings. ",
"Well considering my original comment was pointing out the stupidity it is to say “Wow Russian bots are out today!!!11!!” So I poked fun and tried to show that regular American people also hate this content. It’s not being downvoted in some Russian conspiracy. It’s downvoted because people hate that /r/pics has become /r/politics and the tagging system for marking political posts is soooo bad. They miss half the political posts so filtering it doesn’t help. \n\nAnyways, you’re right I have no end goal here. But I’m not protesting so why would I need it? Pointless equivalents, you’re comparing a Reddit comment to a lazy protest. \n\nYup, and no one cares about yours. Or the people in the picture. No one fucking cares. I’m glad you understand now. ",
"You mad bro?! Lol this is fucking hilarious. You’re a dumbass who took the bait. ",
"Are you 12? Lol never had a debate with someone you disagree and not been angry before? Why would anything I’ve said indicate actual anger in me? Quite literally I’m just saying how dumb these pics are, how dumb this protest is, and how dumb it is to call people who downvote this RuSsIaN BoTS 🙄 But sure take it personally! Literally do not care. I’m just bored in bed watching Netflix so I got time. \n\nYou’re** "
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A shot from yesterday's Women's March in NYC
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"Weaponizing more kids eh? [](http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/019/580/anotheronelol.JPG)",
"/u/IAmDavidJacob, thank you for your submission. Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule I - No screenshots. This includes pictures of screens and photos where the interest is the contents of a screen.\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/IAmDavidJacob&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7ryplh/suggestion_for_cover_of_time_magazine/?context=10\\))",
"Perhaps it's a special issue on exploitation and abuse."
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Suggestion for cover of Time Magazine
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"This is that famous march from John Philip Sousa, “Washing The Post.”",
"It’s sad we have to resort to this nowadays ",
"I had a different mental pic when I saw 'greased poles'."
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Greasing of the poles in Philly to prevent fans from climbing them after the NFC title game. It’s a sadly common practice these days.
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"/u/snopro, thank you for your submission. Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule I - No pictures with added/superimposed digital elements.\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/snopro&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rytsd/my_sister_found_an_old_picture_of_my_brother_on/?context=10\\))",
"Da fuck my sister sent it to me as a snapchat. Shitty rule",
"You can crop it out and resubmit. "
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My sister found an old picture of my brother on New Years 2002
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"The one in the middle is quite convincing ",
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"Bald dotard "
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Images taken from 5 different places within our solar system.
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"Indeed kid, Indeed you do.\n\nNo doubt about it.",
"And you repost as well as the government.",
"*Uncomfortable laugh*",
"> Deleted comment: 'Disabled people shouldn't criticize the government.'\n\nI think only people who can fight a bear with their bare hands should be allowed to criticize the government. /s",
"ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ",
"Not literally but I get you.... ;)",
"A future libertarian, I love it!!!",
"My thoughts exactly",
"It's not the government's fault for people being who they are. ",
"So because there is a government she can't criticize it because she needs it. She can't ask for it to be better, cause that would be ridiculous, and everyone should be happy with what they have and not ask for things to be better. \n\nThere is a difference between asking government to be better and trying to dismantle it.",
"Very old REEEEEEEEEpost",
"Saying that government runs like shit does not mean that said person doesn't want ANY government.",
"Why is this trending?",
"I remember seeing this in 2013. ",
"What are you trying to say bud?",
"Government of the people, for the people, by the people. \n\nThe government works for us, not the other way around. Yeah, she most likely gets disability checks, but that's our tax money it's from. Government is just the middle man. \n\n",
"Im sorry, that prevents this picture from being cute/amusing, how? ",
"Even more than most people, she's benefited from the countless generations contributing their intellect and effort towards the advancement of all human kind and the only thing she seems to be contributing is a shitty attitude. A true libertarian indeed.",
"Oh hello 2013, nice to see you again. ",
"If you are active in T_D then you instantly *lose any respect and credibility.\n\nMost of us wear our t_d bans for calling out their bullshit with pride.",
"A little angry at the world are we? ",
"Who hurt you?",
"Her name? Albert Einstein",
"And collects karma like politicians collect corporate bribes.",
"You sound fat.",
"These same democrats (Schumer being the best example) in 2013 said the only reason anyone would want a shutdown is to advance their political means. DACA doesn't expire till march so why the emergency shutdown now? To make the government/ president seem incompetent? ",
"Yeah they should have their full political manifesto written on a t-shirt for humour. Haha that'll get a giggle. 😑",
"As if Trump needs any help to look incompetent",
"No, I'm not the one advocating slashing Medicare, Medicaid, education and social security.",
"Ahhh, I see. Thank you for the information. Should I make an alt account for when I want to share something outside of t_d?",
"Cute kid",
"I got banned for calling the term GEOTUS cringey.",
"Sorry bud, but most people figured it out on their own.",
"Welcome to America everyone, oh wait, it’s closed.\n\nEdit: The Moose have been informed and are now warning people that America is shut down.\n\nSource: Talking to Moose bc I’m not working tomorrow anyway.",
"If you don’t want this to keep happening? Yes.",
"Edgy.",
"A lot of them are VERY sensitive about their GEOTUS in the t_d. ",
"Switch those arms and you’re spot on. ",
"It may be old but something tells me she's still running better than the government.",
"ᕗ(ᐛ)ᕕ\n\n\n",
"That's such a low bar she could probably jump over it.",
"The face too. The bottom point of the triangle needs to be pointing southwest, the eyes slanted the opposite way. ",
"Lolz. You must be an anatomy professor ",
"Accurate ",
"You sound angry. Here, have a downvote.",
"This government shutdown thing is quite an old problem by now.",
"\"Hey let's make fun of our disabled daughter by comparing her to something we think is dysfunctional!\"",
"Yeah he looks dumber every day as the unemployment percentage goes down, stock market goes up, our taxes go down, and large companies come back to America. What a moron.",
"If you disrespect an entire group of people based on the actions or statements of a few, you are part of the problem.",
"I'm going to just repost my response from the last time I saw this.\n\n[Government's good for nothing am I right?](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/3faeqy/well_shes_not_wrong/ctmw3ww/)\n\nExcept when it comes to landing on the moon, building the GPS network, building and maintaining 47,856 miles of interstate highways, making our drinking water safe, making sure our food is safe, developing countless modern technologies like the internet, or the Coast Guard protecting 133,312 mile so of coast line with a budget of only $6.82 billion.\n\nI mean if we ignore all that it's the worst.",
"Seems appropriate. Timing is everything. Couldn’t be more relevant today. ",
"Moot, is that you?",
"[\"it's impossible to be critical of something while using it\"](https://pics.onsizzle.com/heh-so-you-think-valid-criticisms-of-capitalism-exist-tell-5080328.png)\n\n\"oh man my phone's camera sucks, it never focuses right\"\n\n\"well throw it off a fucking bridge then you ungrateful shill how about you just live with it without ever wishing for something better\"",
"you realize that the tax plan specifically states that all our taxes go back up in 10 years but the companies taxes stay down?",
"Trump's healthcare plans will wipe that smirk off her face rather sooner than later.",
"Reddit believes she should’ve been aborted.",
"10 years is a long time for my taxes to stay down. And I’m sure whoever gets elected in 2024 will try and put their own tax plan in.",
"so you just don't care that it literally puts the corporations above us? their taxes stay the same. we get fucked. how doesn't that bother you",
"Good job USA ",
"Runs better than congress and the white house? Sure.\n\nRuns better than the social security disability system? Well, you're alive, right?",
"The budget bill only needs a simple majority in the senate, which the repubs more than have. ",
"So true it hurts! ",
"Extremely relevant given the current situation ",
"She is awesome. ",
"Because a lot can change in 10 years. Trump changed a lot in 1. For the next 8-10 years, I get more money that I earned.",
"This girl is probably in her 40s now. ",
"But lazy karma.",
"Listen here you little shit",
"Technically, that was a different government. ",
"No",
"ᕗ( ཀ ʖ̯ ཀ)ᕕ kill me",
"Why click on the thread if you are not interested? There is a fairly large clue in the title.",
"Does she wear that when she cashes her Medicaid check?",
"you realzie that federal tax plans are really rare, right? the last one was in 2001 from W. Bush and it wasn't nearly as intense as this one. The last big tax change was in 86, from Reagan. It's incredibly unlikely that you can count on another president fixing this.\n\nYou can't just push the problem down the road and *hope* that it just works itself out.",
"No. If any thing deserves being mocked it's our government (both sides).",
"Fingers crossed for Oprah to save the day, then!",
"Anyone can say that when they shut themselves down.",
"That's pretty solid ",
"There are people smarter than you in the government for a reason",
"Should she bow down four times a day facing East to thank her beloved government owners for bestowing life upon her? Saying she's incapable of living a normal life without government is beyond infantilizing. She can think for herself. \n\nIn fact, I do think a lot of wheelchair bound people would survive in anarchy. The same human good will that helps us to create programs to support these people is the same goodwill that would support the handicapped if they need it.",
"Because people like it... just my 1st guess. ",
"You crackers are foul",
"I mean... not really... They both kind of shutdown on us. ",
"why not listen to the nazis, right? there are good points on both sides!!",
"that's a false equivalence you jackass. nobody who doesn't have autism wants oprah to be president. She made one speech and some people made some memes.",
"Just $6.82 billion? That's over $50,000 per mile.",
"Some say the government is still running to this day.",
"It’s a tie.",
"Already resorting to name-calling. You guys sure are quick to that. Anyway, I genuinely hope you have a nice rest of the day! Enjoy your money you make from work!",
"I hate Trump and am pretty left leaning but this is just flat out not true. They need 60 votes to overcome an inevitable filibuster.",
"Unless they were trolling, then it'd be ok. \n\nEdit: nevermind it's braindead nonsense comments",
"DAE GUBMENT BAD????????",
"Oh no, how did people thrive before the government stepped in and helped them?!",
"Also enforcing construction of the ramps and other handicap accessibility modifications she probably uses on a daily basis. ",
"You got that right! The Schumer Shutdown is shameful.",
"Or maybe she liked it and chose it herself. ",
"Personally I think its the upvotes, but that's just me.",
"Not to mention Medicare being vastly more efficient than private insurance. The gov does things quite well despite the jokes ",
"Name fits.",
"/r/germany",
"I agree!",
"But if I turn my phone, it is already pointing Southwest",
"This is my college's running club's motto.",
"You both equally can't run",
"You just don’t understand tax laws I guess.",
"The disrespect is based on it being an echo chamber of supporters of the worst president ever. ",
"Those pants are so Ska... how do we know this person isn’t skanking?",
"Yeah, if I see t_d in someone's history, I immediately think they are scum",
"And you're written off as a dumbfuck ",
"When you think about it, it's kinda like Spain. Only the US Govt has a little siesta for about a week every couple of years.",
"This is one of three mossy perfect shirts ever. ",
"Funny, 2013 is the same year Trump said that the President is the one to blame when our government shuts down. Schumer had offered Trump everything he ever wanted (i.e. border wall), to which Trump agreed, until Trump talked to his cronies who told him what little base he has left wouldn't like the deal. ",
"What he said also applies to Muslims, your treasured minority pets",
"Is this a politics sub now?",
"It's a reminder that there are people against reality and so gullible ",
"ooowee!",
"I've seen a noticeable increase in t_d leaking out, as well as a huge spike of pro-GOP/pro-Trump/anti-Sanity posts the past day or two. Which coincides with articles noting that fancy bear is ramping up operations for the election. Funny that, eh?",
"Open... The country.\n\nStop. Having it be closed. ",
"Good job democrats! ",
"\"If you disrespect an entire group of people based on the actions or statements of a few,\"\n\nDefending groups like the KKK is also a part of the problem.",
"Yeah, everyone else is the problem, not you. ",
"Kinda ironic to use a reposted photo for karma, which takes a dig at the government, while simultaneously worshipping the current shit-show and the man behind it.",
"Hot wheels",
"https://i.imgur.com/l1J8qjg.jpg",
"How can you be so bigoted? ",
"yeah didn't that happen like yesterday...how is it even news anymore ",
"Technically more efficient, there’s no tissues to get in the way ",
"This is something, coming from a T_D poster",
"Sounds like reddit is serious business.",
"Legal immigration is very much still alive and well ",
"> making our drinking water safe,\n\nTell that to Michigan.",
"I don’t care about politics and people like you are exactly why",
"\"No matter how strongly one feels about an issue, you shouldn’t hold millions of people hostage. That’s what the other side is doing. That’s wrong and we can’t give in to that.\"\n\n\"You know, we could do the same thing on immigration. We believe strongly in immigration reform. We could say, ‘We’re shutting down the government, we’re not gonna raise the debt ceiling, until you pass immigration reform.’ It would be governmental chaos.\"\n\n--Chuck Schumer, 2013",
"I think I love you",
"I post to the Donald and I'm a nice person! :(",
"I've got bad news for you....",
"Well the meme production is affected due to shutdown, must recycle till the circus is open again.",
"Why are you assuming they're smarter than you? Nepotism, bribes and connections to get positions is rampant in the govt.",
"*ehhhhh*",
"When i see a comment like this I immediately think they are a complete loser\n\n\nWho even takes the time to go through someone's post history except a person with nothing better to do? It's rock bottom of being a redditor\n\n\n\n\"Fuck you cripple girl, you are nothing but scum! How dare you have different politics than me, too bad you are simply cripple and not dead\"",
"and on the flip side in 2013 during the shutdown Trump said that the blame for a shutdown is always on the person at the top (implying the Presidency). The Republicans have not offered any real compromise at all to the Democrats and are expecting them to skip along happily following their lead.",
"r/libertarian",
"just mirror ops image\n\nhttps://imgur.com/5PtQASe\n",
"Cus I'm having a good time, HAVING A GOOD TIME",
"So you’re saying you’ll support making the Trump tax cut permanent? Call your Democrat congressmen and let them know that. If more Dems would support it, it would be permanent. \n\nOr are you just spewing a stupid Democratic taking point like Bernie Sanders did when [Ted Cruz called him out on it and asked him to cosponsor a bipartisan bill to make the Trump cuts permanent?](https://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/12/1040838-bernie-sanders-says-gop-tax-cuts-permanent-ted-cruz-invites-co-sponsor-new-legislation/) ",
"I thought we were supposed to be against blanket statements like this. I understand that people at t_d are usually awful but just completely discrediting an entire group because they post somewhere is kind of awful imo.",
"Oh the irony",
"But she can’t run",
"*Trump shutdown. Trump himself said that when a shutdown happens, the president is to blame. The man’s a hypocrite; it’s insane how he’s blaming the democrats for this.",
"Because Trump supporter are Nazis? This is why so many people have abandoned the left (like I did.).",
"But what about a bare with bear hands? ",
"That... it's not a girl?",
"Haha. Go you, kid. I remember when I was in a wheelchair. It sucked. ",
"Flint might disagree with that safe drinking water comment.",
"I guess the majority of liberals are autistic then.",
" MASTERSTROKE",
"Yes but tell that to the current government who think that spending is out of hand and wants to scale it back. That's why they couldn't get everyone on board for funding it and is the basis of the joke. ",
"See, that’s why you don’t need to go to the KFC.",
"I think you’re just stupid tbh.",
"Schumer shutdown. \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHiX5jGAF-A\n\nKeep downvoting bots/ nay sayers",
"@",
"$50,000 per mile is nothing. Their equipment isnt duct tape and sticks.\n\nThats not even factoring in salary",
"This acutally got down votes?\n\nWow Reddit didn't know you felt that way.\n\n/s",
"R/maliciouscompliance",
"Those are the best fucking crackers tho",
"Wow dude you are so cool and edgy please teach me how to be cool and edgy on the internet ",
"All evidence to the contrary",
"Never understood the stock market argument. You realize that it's 99% only helping already well-off people, right? \n\nTaxes go down, but there are cuts to just about every subsidy that the people who need the tax cuts are receiving (student loans, etc.).\n\nWhen did the large companies ever leave?",
"nice color vans tho",
"Repost but definitely more relevant than ever ",
"Those crackers are fowl",
"Jokes on her, the government will eventually run again. She on the other hand.. Not so much.",
"this is why the dems lost last election. ",
"It's a paralegal",
"**Uncomfortable pose**",
"Thats not something to be proud of",
"Wow... so Trump is the one filibustering the spending bill then?\n\nOh wait... it’s Schumer.",
"Are they anything like chicken chips?",
"Gravytinis.",
"That are horribly lacking in general. The world is really inaccessible, even in most places that consider themselves accessible. (As far as businesses, that's usually on them though tbh) ",
"I like that you keep asking him \"You realize...\". You realize the answer to that is \"no,\" right?",
"2013 post from Obama administration. Derp",
"Handicapped people, like the girl pictured, were frequently left to die before the government stepped in to help them.",
"Not only is this an old ass repost but it is objectively not a well shot picture. The entire point of this subreddit is to share exceptional examples of photography not low quality cell phone photos with a political message reddit can circle jerk over. You’ve earned my downvote. ",
"“A shutdown falls on the President’s lack of leadership. He can’t even control his party and get people together in a room. A shutdown means the President is weak”\n\n - - Donald Trump, 2013",
"*the shutdown that was caused not by a specific party or individual but by petty childish squabbling both sides participated in rather equally",
"What the fuck is a GEOTUS? General Educational Orthodontist of The United States?",
"Make no bones about it!",
"No she doesn’t ",
"C'mon man, be tolerant of others..",
"What the hell is a GEOTUS? ",
"Holy shit I looked at your post history for 1 minute and the salt is just out of control. I almost feel bad for you, being THIS angry about the president and his supporters. And the sad thing is you don't even present any valid arguments, you just toss around insults at anyone who vaguely supports the POTUS. Get a life dude.",
"This sub is trash.. ",
"Cant tell if shes just disabled or fully retarded with that facial expression and her arms like that. ",
"r/MaliciousCompliance\n\nFor the lazy",
"Incoherent joke.",
"The tax bill is permanent, until a new one is made, years down the line. It's literally written in that [\"... the individual income tax reverts to current law for tax year 2026 and beyond... People get eight years of tax reform.\"](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/29/16709526/tax-reform-republican-plan-take-effect). If my taxes stayed down the whole time I'd be cool with it. But they don't. They go back up.\n\nI doubt it was the DEEMMMMMS who wrote in that corporations get to keep their low tax rate but the poor people have to go back to normal.",
"Lol she Rocks!!",
"(งツ)ว",
"Almost as if there's a correlation",
"theoretically. ",
"oof! ouchie!",
"Do repost shamers just know that a post has been posted before or do they take the time to do research on a post and then brag about knowing it's a repost? ",
"It takes 60 votes to pass, and we had 51. ",
"Sorry bud, but you don't lol",
"Never in my life have I thought “she’s kind of cute” and “she looks like she’s going to say Timmaaaayy” at the same time. ",
"Uhhhhh, source? Besides memes. Cuz those are memes.",
"holy shit",
"[Schumer?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHiX5jGAF-A)",
"Somebody with photoshop skills please fix the text",
"They *didn't*.\n\nNo guaranteed holidays, no sick pay, child labor, short lifespans, rampant diseases which are easily curable today...",
"But she doesn't.. ",
"redrum?",
"You get absolutely no where you pretend they're all the same person. Saying that some loses credibility because they post in *any* subreddit is insane, regardless of your shitty politics.",
"That's racist.",
"I don't think this needs to be tagged \"US Politics\". Her outfit is red, white, and blue, but I think its a joke that a person from any country can sympathize with. Do people living outside the US feel like their government is an efficient, responsive, incorruptible institution 100% of the time?",
"Love that video",
"Bribes is such a harsh word. They prefer the term 'campaign contributions'.",
"She's a person entirely capable of making her own choices and self depreciating jokes. A wheelchair doesn't mean anything about someone other than the person has trouble walking. ",
"Thats the point... :l",
"government machine broke",
"Alright, alright, but except the aqueducts, irrigation, roads, public safety, sanitation, public baths and wine, what have the Romans ever done for us?!",
"Who's making fun of her? Looks like she's into it...",
"It’s helping people who are making their money work for them by investing it. You don’t have to be “well-off” to try and invest in the stock market. I’m not rich by any means but I invested some money into it when Trump got elected and it’s been amazing!\n\nWhen did large companies leave? Are you serious? Look at every major manufacturing company. They left to places where they could get cheaper labor and lower taxes so the CEOs could pocket the extra change. ",
"I think everyone is fed up with Congress being unable to perform some of its most basic functions effectively. The Democrats gambled that if they refused to vote for the CR, the public at large would blame Republicans (which is exactly the inverse of how the Republicans gambled last time, and failed), and it didn't quite work.",
"Lmao",
"who *is* this \"4chan\" ?",
"Stern but fair",
"For those who still don't think it was intentional https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHiX5jGAF-A (0:26)",
"Exactly. Government runs pretty smooth on most days, She on the other hand can't run at all.",
"Clearly we should all eat laundry detergent",
"Is that a girl or a boy?",
"***Uncomfortable stare at the camera***",
"I need that shirt I wear leg braces and use a walker its nearly as funny 😆 this is fucking great made my day. 👍 ",
"What country do you live in?",
"pretty sure its a boy.",
"*country",
"> That's such a low bar she could probably ~~jump~~ wheelie over it.\n\nFTFY",
"That’s ridiculously cheap for what their job is. ",
"Nur I retteb eht naht tnemnrevog\n",
"heh u'd make a better president than that orange fool... tahts right everyone i said a RETARD would make a BETTER PRESIDENT!!!!",
"Holy shit, I thought that had to be a made-up quote. That is hilarious. And sad.",
"[ here you go ](https://imgur.com/gallery/t8hKy)",
"I mean, in fairness, when the Republicans did it, they ended up winning the House, the Senate, and the Presidency. In a democracy politicians are supposed to do whatever wins them the most votes and it's pretty hard to argue against those results. ",
"That’s the joke, she can’t run, but she’s runs better than the government due to all the shutdowns. ",
"The lines immediately before that are worse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHiX5jGAF-A",
"Well you're not wrong, but :\\",
"When I got the trending notification on my phone this post had barely any upvotes",
"r/politicalhumor is that way.\n\nSeriously, r/pics is turning into r/politics light.",
"My bones! ",
"The Dems voted almost unanimously against you getting any tax cut at all. And you still spew their propaganda. They don’t give a shit about you. ",
"They're on track to lose the next one too",
"Not a hard milestone since the congress has given itself over a year to do its job and still wants to reach a fucking “quick fix”",
"Dude I hate them. They taste so artificial.\n\nViva la saltine.",
"(งツ)ว ",
"This is absurd. Unemployment at all time low. Stockmarket closing all time high. And her legs clearly can't do shit. ",
"But what have the Romans done?",
"*plus a thousand cities on the USA whose water is unsafe but it hasn’t made the headlines",
"And she got better shoes than Kanye",
"Nah, it's because you're being a dick. Plenty of people made criticisms, hell a lot of ablism too and weren't downvoted so hard. ",
"dafuq does this kid know about the government\n\nsmh kids these days\n\nof course the 14 year old reddit armchair economists and poli sci experts would downvote me. keep em comin. better get to bed soon tho before u get grounded. ",
"*unzips*",
"Switched the arms boss!",
"“I believe in immigration reform. What if I persuaded my caucus to say I’m going to shut the government down, I’m going to not pay our bills unless I get my way. It’s a politics of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis.”\n—Chuck Schumer, 2013\n\nAnd who are the hypocrites?",
"**Fox & Friends:** Who gets fired if there is a government shutdown?\n\n**Trump:** “Well if you say who gets fired, it always has to be the top. Problems start from the top and they have to get solved from the top and the president’s the leader” \n\n(9/30/13) ",
"Yeah they're un*bear*able\n\n",
"I don't think Hillary Clinton openly defends her mentor anymore so rest easy friend. ",
"> whoever gets elected in 2024\n\nTrump ain't winning in 2020, pal. Assuming he gets to be the Republican candidate, there's no way anyone but his idiot base votes for him, and that won't be enough the second go-around.",
"What's this you've said to me, my good friend? Ill have you know I graduated top of my class in conflict resolution, and Ive been involved in numerous friendly discussions, and I have over 300 confirmed friends. I am trained in polite discussions and I'm the top mediator in the entire neighborhood. You are worth more to me than just another target. I hope we will come to have a friendship never before seen on this Earth. Don't you think you might be hurting someone's feelings saying that over the internet? Think about it, my friend. As we speak I am contacting my good friends across the USA and your P.O. box is being traced right now so you better prepare for the greeting cards, friend. The greeting cards that help you with your hate. You should look forward to it, friend. I can be anywhere, anytime for you, and I can calm you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my chess set. Not only am I extensively trained in conflict resolution, but I have access to the entire group of my friends and I will use them to their full extent to start our new friendship. If only you could have known what kindness and love your little comment was about to bring you, maybe you would have reached out sooner. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now we get to start a new friendship, you unique person. I will give you gifts and you might have a hard time keeping up. You're finally living, friend.\n\nEdit: Thank you kind stranger! ",
"So shouldn’t it be I can run just as well as the government?",
"Whoa that looks so alive.",
"Idk what those are but they sound delicious",
">mfw when normies blew my cover",
"No.",
"90% of the house and 95% of republican senate representatives voted to keep the government running two days ago.\n\n5% of the house and 1% of the democratic senate voted to keep government running two days ago.\n\nFun fact: No low rank Military employees are paid during a government shut down. There are people over seas, maybe because of pride for their country - but many are only there because it allowed them the opportunity to get an education and work towards a better life and family afterwards. These people are enduring artillery fire, bullets and mortar fire sometimes on a daily basis.\n\nI will give no political opinion in regards to the facts I've just shared, however it seems clear to me as to whom has the benevolent intent in this situation; and the irony in relation to OP's picture is painful.",
"Government is gradually changing every day so the government of tomorrow will be different than the government of today. Government doesn't suddenly change to accomplish or fail to accomplish the tasks commenter mentioned.",
"With almost no help...",
"So... Plutocracy?",
"*Dysfunctional conjoined twin shutdown",
"Fox & Friends: Who gets fired if there is a government shutdown?\n\nTrump: “Well if you say who gets fired, it always has to be the top. Problems start from the top and they have to get solved from the top and the president’s the leader” \n\n(9/30/13) \n\n",
"and she's even more retarded than trump!!!",
"Thanks to salty Dems, my VA benefits are in jeopardy. Sad state of affairs when privileged politicians use the weak as bargaining chips. ",
"Lolol",
"Jesus, dude. Disabled people are just as varied as able. Speaking as a disabled person who doesn't receive a lick of social security or disability. ",
"Thanks chuck the cuck.. the dummie dems strike again",
"Zips",
"😂😂😂😂",
"I eat chicken and a biscuit by the box. Which is why I never buy them. They’re too dern tasty",
"[These are the best crackers ever made.](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/510UdIoK1WL.jpg)",
"I’ve heard they can be handy sometimes",
"Teeeeechnically neither of you can run. ",
"Hahaha! Yeah he is. Just because you only hang around in hive-mind circles where everybody hates Trump doesn’t mean that the rest of the country does. \n\nYou people were spouting the same thing last year and Trump absolutely demolished Shillary.\n\nBut please, by all means, keep your head in the clouds. It makes it easier for Trump to win 2020. Have a nice day, buddy!",
"*uncomfortable office*",
"know what grinds my gears? when redditors say ehhhhh",
"Republicans have taken DACA immigration completely off the table for the sake of passing the spending bill. Dems refuse to pass spending so they can debate DACA in a separate resolution. There is no way to spin this for the Dems. Schumer’s filibuster is the sole reason Senate hasn’t voted for the resolution. DACA has nothing to do with it. It’s just stupid at this point. \n\n“I believe in immigration reform. What if I persuaded my caucus to say I’m going to shut the government down, I’m going to not pay our bills unless I get my way. It’s a politics of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis.” —Chuck Schumer, 2013",
"Just kidding",
"This is not a coincidence. We",
"He's dead, Jim",
"Man... You know what you are? You’re a cracker too!\n\nWe are all crackers on this blessed day!",
"This tax plan is a cut on corporate taxes. A corporation is just the way we organize legally to make business in a more efficient manner, lowering taxes on those companies will then lower the taxes on the individual level. Nobody likes Reagan in 1981 when he passed his tax bill, but was met with much praise afterwords and people noticed they were getting more of their money back.",
"Trying to use autism as an insult says everything about you anyone needs to know. ",
"Basically just rewording what I said. In order to invest money, you need money to invest. If you have money to invest, you are well off, at least compared to a *lot* of other Americans. I didn't say rich.\n\nOh you mean factories, not the actual business. Yeah, they still aren't here, because its still way cheaper to have a factory in Mexico or China. Build a *few* more factories isn't saying much. \n\nEdit: Also, you forgot to address the subsidies.",
"In the event of an emergency, the above block of text can be wrapped in a towel and used as a bludgeon.\n\nETA: Holy cow! Thank you to whoever bestowed gold upon me! YASS!!!",
"[Vote to pass bill to prevent shutdown](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/19/us/politics/live-senate-vote-government-shutdown.html)\n\nRepublicans: 45 to 5 (McCain did not vote)\n\nDemocrats: 5 to 44 \n\nLooks like he's got his party under control. ",
"Too buttery.",
"I'm a shooting star leaping through the sky!",
"The moose should of told you we're closed",
"Taco Bell... innovating every day... ",
"“Speaking fee”",
"A flip flopping politician? That's *unheard* of.",
"Yeah it's called *new*s",
"No you don’t",
"Agreed, especially with cheese",
"No such thing",
"My **BONES**",
"What does GEOTUS stand for? Greatest Ever of the United States? ",
"Alternatively you could strive to be a better human being and not enable and support; racism, bigotry, pedophilia, high treason, sexual predation, and avarice by being a T-D supporter.",
"You both have parts shut down. As long as your essential parts are still working, you’re basically the same thing.",
"But you don't run at a- \n\n*oh.*",
"No you don't you don't run at all lol",
"But you don't...",
"“REEEEEEEEEEE!”",
"Yeah I mean technically the government *could* just cease to exist before it functions properly again",
"Dems are the minority. There only needs to be a 51% approval of the budget. How is it the minorities fault?",
"Nah, must be a conspiracy.",
"Only for once, it was the president wanting a siesta ",
"Photo of girl in wheelchair.\n\nHas this sub lost its mind?",
"Oh my god these things are like crack to me.\n\nI know they are bad but I keep shoving them into my body. ",
"It’s easy to get enough money to invest when you do something simple like have a job, save your money, and not blow it on stupid, unnecessary things. \n\nA few more factories isn’t saying much? Ever factory that returns creates thousands of jobs. That may not be much for someone who doesn’t care about other people working or not, but for honest, hardworking people, it makes a big difference.",
"It takes 60 to overcome a filibuster.",
"/r/bonehurtingjuice",
"I'm going to cook some hash browns with a full stick of butter in them",
"And yet liberals insist that we trust the government with an ever increasing amount of power. Yeah, let me turn over my healthcare to a government that struggles with its current functions. Liberals are so stupid.",
"An administration which was at odds with the majority party of Congress. The current party in the WH is at odd with themselves.",
"Back when the coast guard was formed they guarded the entire coast with like 6 dingys and 20 guys.",
"Do we care?\n\nAre we caring? ",
"Lol, nice try, sheep!",
"Cute❣️🙂😹",
"The good old ~~russian~~ Japanese reversal",
"So are you saying shutdowns are OK, or are you saying they're not and those responsible should suffer consequences?",
"Speaking as a disabled person too, yeah I know.\n\nSo you're \"one of the good ones\"?",
"Exactly why you need less of it!",
"Not an American here, but shutting down the civil service over politicians being antsy seems so fucking dumb (especially considering few of the issues behind the shutdown actually relate to the running of the civil service).\n\nGovernment shut downs seem to be a fairly regular thing now, and no one really thinks it won't be sorted out eventually, so why the hell isn't there a contingency budget to keep the civil service moving, or at least work on the basis that the current arrangement still stands (or some other baseline)?\n\nBelgium was without a government for like two years, and their civil service still ticked along.",
"Why not, I would rather sit on the sidelines then hate someone for there opinion ",
"So you saying there are good nazi's? Good pedophiles?\n\nSometimes it's ok to label and entire group of people as \"bad\"",
"ehhhhh\n\n",
"Huh. I think you linked the wrong picture. \n\n[You meant this one](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/912pwDb89vL._SL1500_.jpg)",
"Like a tiger.",
"*full bodied laugh*",
"> or the Coast Guard protecting 133,312 mile so of coast line with a budget of only $6.82 billion.\n\nThe govt. is literally going after about a dozen Coast Guard members. They are transgender. The Coast Guard commandant is standing behind his people.",
"*understandable have a nice fall of Rome reinactment*",
"Wow, this is dumb",
"this is hilarious but somehow if this was a meme on facebook I feel like it would be insensitive to like this post",
"Better call his mom.",
"Or, here in reality, Democrats want Republicans to fulfill their promise of passing DACA, which they kept saying they'd do but instead keep using as political leverage as if 700,000 lives are a game. You're right that Congress is incapable of performing its most basic functions: Republicans have been intentionally refusing to pass CHIP or DACA for months just so that they could have political tools to force a shutdown and blame Dems. And, clearly, it works on some people. ",
"Always carry a towel.",
"What /u/takesthebiscuit said goes for me as well.\n\nSo all you TD fans better downvote me.",
"Comments like yours disgust me because they infantilize disabled people. I have you know that we have our own autonomy. \n\nThe woman, yes woman, in that photo bought that shirt herself. Being disabled doesn't mean we can't be humorous, or that suddenly we lose the ability to enjoy black comedy. ",
"#I DO WHAT I WANT\n\n^(is the superior form of conflict resolution)",
"Can't tell is s/ or nah, so I'll assume nah. Her arms are not in a synergistic pattern and her eyes are both on the camera, so just LE CP",
"( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° \")",
"WHAT IN GOSH DARN HECKING FLIP DID YOU SAY TO ME NORMIE!!? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in *Minecraft School Animations*, and I’ve been involved in numerous raids on *Roblox Streams*, and I have over 300 confirmed kills *on Minestrike*\n\nI am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in *FaZe Clan*. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will *strip mine* with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my *y coordinates for common diamond ore locations*\n\nYou think you can get away with saying that *PROFANE LANGUAGE* to me over the Internet? Think again, HECKEr. As we speak I am *building obsidian TNT cannons around your base* and *griefing your LAN server* so you better prepare for the storm, the storm that wipes out the pathetic little *diamond armor* you call your own. You’re *HEC*king dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my *sharpness TWO diamond sword*.\n\nNot only am I extensively trained in *mushroom soup drinking combat* but I will use it to its full extent to wipe your *diamond armor* off the face of the continent, you *poop xD*.If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your *diamond armor*\nBut you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you *furry doodoo face* I will *PLACE LAVA* all over you and you will drown in it.\n",
"*DIEDIEDIE*",
"If you oppose the racist cult the_donald I want to buy you a drink and shake your hand. \n\n",
"I mean, the US government is shut down, it's also news and I don't think r/politics or r/news allows memes or shitposts. There's also not much political debate going on here. ",
"*sigh...*",
"Why? She made a joke. It was funny, laugh at it. Comments like yours just remind people in chairs how often they aren’t treated like human beings. ",
"Her mentor -quit- the KKK so stop spreading fake news.\n\nEdit: Downvoting won't make Robert Byrd never have quit. ",
"Like a tiger defying the laws of gravityyyy",
"Honestly, I'm not sure people cared about it one way or the other in the big picture when it came time to vote.\n\nI know personally, it wouldn't make my shortlist of reasons to not vote for someone.\n\nThat said, I thought a shutdown was stupid in 2013 and I think it's stupid now.",
"I think people sometimes see upvotes and upvote just because of that and for no other reason",
"Sitting on the sidelines is how tryants come to power Mr. Ultra sooper too cool guy",
"This is why I love Reddit lol",
"And so obviously the solution is more complicated forms of government with central planning and market restrictions. ",
"No, you are not.",
"Have you BEEN to the_donald? They are not good people. The aren't sending their best. None, I assume, are good people.",
"No. ME FIRST.",
"You have a problem with women obtaining power? Or maybe a self-made billionaire scares you? Or maybe....race? \n\nWe need to include all possible voices out there, not just the party elites of either side bro . ",
"Probably go downhill faster too",
"Haha government closed ecks dee",
"Ah, that old saw. \"Liberals said mean words and that controls what I say and do.\" ",
"Cadet bone spurs over here?",
"Also a safespace for Nazis.",
"Gets caught in zipper",
"And you will as long as we have Dito the Cheeto in power. :( \nGood on you! ",
"Haha because Trump fucked up the government!",
"maybe you should run for president",
"Lets take her free health care away and see how long she lasts.",
"The cultists at the Donald like to call Trump God Emperor of the United States.",
"Wow, saw this on r/all so didn't even realize this was from r/pics. I assumed r/PoliticalHumor. That's pretty dumb.",
"But, no gorilla warfare! That's my favorite part. =(",
"Scratch a Republican and a fascist bleeds. ",
"What thegothamknights said is also my opinion.",
"You do know that the stock market is not the government, right? You also know that unemployment is a function of the private sector right?",
"Yes? Please, go on...",
"I believe she is running *at an equal rate* to the government ",
"Begins zipping really fast, up and down, to the rhythm of La Cucaracha",
"It’s funny because it’s true",
"DACA has everything to do with it. Republicans have lied and lied and lied about passing a solution for DACA - after they created the problem in the first place. 80+% of Americans want them to pass a DACA bill, and they're out of time to do so. Dems are just doing their jobs, unlike their counterparts. \n\nIf it doesn't pass now, Republicans will just use DACA as a political hostage again, exactly the same as they're doing with CHIP, an extremely popular program that they inexcusably refused to pass for months, just to use as another bargaining chip.",
"Thanks to to democrats that care more about illegal aliens than American citizens",
"She's on at least day 2 of not running if she had to wait for shipping on that shirt.",
"There might be good people at Scientology but if you have a choice to leave it and do not, I doubt your motives.",
"So does that mean when the time comes when the government is running a bit smoother and she still can't run. Can I post a picture of a handicapped person and say the government runs better than *this* guy, feel like I could break 19k worth of upvotes with it tbh. ",
"I have a problem with Oprah because she is a reality TV star. I don't hate Republicans believe it or not, I hate Trump because he's a smug asshole, and doesn't know shit about how the government works.\n\nOprah has an incredibly similar background, and I don't think she'd do any better than he is.",
"Wtf are you saying ",
"I just laughed like an idiot alone in my appartment. Lol",
"Here, have my upvote ",
"She can probably run, it just wouldn't be pretty. She wouldn't have leg braces if she wasn't at least somewhat mobile.",
"how fucking lame",
"she runs better than hillarys presidential campaign too.",
"You make a ",
"He's probably saying there are good Trump supporters, which is true",
"It's called BM, this will be categorized as a small well formed BM in the medical chart.",
"Hmmm, seems like it might be a bit of a tie there...\n\nLove the sense of humor though. I admire people like her",
"Cause it's a ~~cute puppy~~, ~~cute cat~~, ~~OC picture of some mountains somewhere no one gives a shit about, while the sun is rising~~, a legless person.",
"It’s British, it’s one of my partners best mates and about three years old.. we’re sending for her",
"Shes gonna run off the stairs if she contionues with her unpatriotic rhetoric",
"Yeah because republicans hate capitalism too",
"Just like her.",
"Still not the place for 5 year old reposts on a non-political sub",
"I’m with you on this one! I am going to flower that guy up so bad! I’m going to send flowers to him, to his family, to his relatives, to his place of work, I’m going to have people drop flowers in front of him wherever he walks.... \n\nThat will show him for the rest of his life that there are people out there who love and care about him, and that has to deal with having lots of friends for the rest of his life!",
"Stable genius!",
"> DACA doesn't expire till march so why the emergency shutdown now? \n\nBecause it's almost March? Republicans have had years to pass a DACA bill and have refused to do so, even though they keep saying they will. The deadline is now. ",
"Why is this subreddit getting so political lol",
"Heh... not bad, kid. Not bad at all. Your meme, I mean. It's not bad. A good first attempt. It's pretty dank... I can tell it's got some thought behind it... lots of quotable material... But memeing isn't all sunshine and rainbows, kid. You're skilled... that much I can tell. But do you have what it takes to be a Memester? To join those esteemed meme ranks? To call yourself a member of the Ruseman's Corps? Memeing takes talent, that much is true. But more than that it takes heart. The world-class Memesters - I mean the big guys, like Johnny Hammersticks and Billy Kuahana - they're out there day and night, burning the midnight meme-oil, working tirelessly to craft that next big meme. And you know what, kid? 99 times out of a hundred, that new meme fails. Someone dismisses it as bait, or says it's \"tryhard,\" or ignores it as they copy/paste the latest shitpost copypasta dreamt up by those sorry excuses for cut-rate memers over at reddit. The Meme Game is rough, kid, and I don't just mean the one you just lost. It's a rough business, and for every artisan meme you craft in your meme bakery, some kid at 9gag has a picture of a duck or some shit that a million different Johnny No-Names will attach a milion different captions to. Chin up, kid. Don't get all mopey on me. You've got skill. You've got talent. You just need to show your drive. \n\nSee you on the boards...\n",
"How do you know this? According to your friends at the_safespace, all polls are fake news.",
"too soon",
"Racism, pedophilia, and avarice in combination make my peepee hard",
"She aint wrong",
"Oh shit",
"For the very lazy: it's a bunch of posts about people who obey instructions they don't like but are dicks about it.",
"“Government” actually runs pretty well for the most part,when it’s allowed to. It’s Congress that’s dysfunctional. It’s not the same thing. ",
"does she shut down from time to time too?\n",
"\"again\"\n\nNews flash, it's never going to run exactly as you want it to, and it never has. ",
"The Flint Water Crisis started under Obama.",
"How does ehhhh work for you",
"A bit mouthy, too.",
"I'd DO HER",
"Hi Papyrus. ",
" Not to minimize the seriousness of the situation, but the media and both parties over dramatize this a little. \n\nThis isn't a \"shutdown\" in the sense that everything is closed and all government operations have ceased. Only a few parts of the government have shutdown and likely for 3 or 4 days. There is a contingency budget.\n\nThis is mostly a political game that each party is playing to try to gain the upper hand. ",
"^ went full retard",
"There is, the government doesn't actually shut down, they close a few non-essential functions, the rest is just posturing and drama.",
"Ron Swanson would be proud",
"(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧",
"Best I could do: https://i.redd.it/4r1eh2frcgb01.jpg",
"This one is great. ",
"Dems are the minority. The budget only needs a 51% approval to pass. How is this the minority's fault?",
"Let’s be honest, all of reddit is turning into /r/politics light.",
"Political humor? I thought we were all making fun of a cripple.",
"(ง'̀-'́)ง",
"I hate Nazis and I am proud of that.",
">No matter how strongly one feels about an issue, you shouldn’t hold millions of people hostage.\n\n... like Republicans are doing with the children who need CHIP, or with dreamers. Your attempt at an analogy is weak. Republicans were just throwing a shitfit over something that was never going to happen in a million years; Democrats are trying to help hundreds of thousands of individuals who Republicans *have already agreed to pass a bill to help*, but have refused to actually put into action. It's a completely opposite situation. ",
"* *Collects SSID benefits check from the government*\n* *Makes use of Medicare for all her health care needs*\n* *Has a job with special accommodations that she only got because of quotas for minorities and laws against discrimination mandating special accommodations for people in her condition*\n\nHer parents are a bunch of a selfish cunts if they are still going on talking about how the government can do nothing right despite all that. The free market doesn't care about your disabled ass. You are an anomaly. Not worth the trouble. ",
"Racist. ",
"r/maliciouscompliance",
"You're one of the invalids that implies he couldn't survive without gibs?",
"I love how everything is supposedly the Democrats’ fault even though the GOP is in control of all 3 branches of government. What a worthless president lmfao",
"People actually believe this.",
"\"I am a Vegan yet I eat lots of chicken.\"\n\nSame logic. \n\nEdit: If you're really confident of being nice, please pay more attention to /r/esist, another sub you are subscribed to.",
"> functions properly again\n\nAgain, when exactly has it ever functioned \"properly\"? Are we talking the 1700s when killing natives was a priority? Or are we talking about the 1800s when the economy hinged on slavery? Or do you mean the 1900s when we were constantly at war with the rest of the world? I'm just curious as to when that was.",
"There is a contingency, at the President's discretion. In 2013 President Obama specifically did not allow the contingency funding to be used because it put more pressure on Republicans to come to an agreement. Odds are Trump isn't clever enough to do that though.",
"It's almost as if we're benefiting from decisions made during the last presidency!",
"Probably because it doesn't belong in r/pics. And of course T_D...",
"Oligarchy with some aristocratic elements. ",
"Turning into? Where have you been?",
"\"Government sucks but let's also support the party/ideology that's for more government.\"\n\n~Reddit/Twitter/Facebook/Instagram/ABC/CBS/CNN/MSNBC/WAPO/HuffPo/NYT/TYT/SNL/TDS/TTS/LWT/JKL\n\nBut Fox News is propaganda guys.",
"Ah, a fellow Katawa Shoujo fan.",
"No she doesn't... Government runs, just backwards",
"https://i.imgur.com/Wu6FCxy.gif",
"Is that what you mean? ",
"Where can I find this to copy and paste this in my notes?",
"I would be fine with both Trump and Schumer getting shitcanned.",
"first meme of 2013",
"lol puppet legs",
"Why even close the non-essential functions? Presumably some people at least still need those functions.",
"nah moot would wear more pink stuff in his natural habitat",
"This is not a coincidence. We",
"I'm not even saying there are or aren't good people I just don't think because someone belongs to a group we should discredit everything they say and not have a discussion or conversation with them. Especially in this situation where he hasn't even said anything remotely related to the group he belongs to. Just seems like unnecessary witchhunting to me.",
"I value a properly yelled Timmaaaayy over looks any day.",
"Hahaha political joke. Hahaha I get it. \nShe's disabled, but the government is more disabled hahaha.\n\nI need to stay off of Reddit for a while, this political stuff is getting annoying. It's all of my Twitter too. Nobody shuts the fuck up about it. \n\nEdit: Yes. Downvote an unpopular opinion. Continue the political circlejerk. ",
"Trump. Because he has said the President is to blame for any shutdown.",
"No, you really aren't. No matter what mental gymnastics that you use to justify your support of such an objectively awful person, the rest of us see you for what you are: scum.",
"Well real citizens wont vote for them",
"kek",
"A party increasingly engaging in polarising political tactics is a perfectly valid reason to not support them.",
"And yet, whatever may be going on right now, Trump has said in the past the President is responsible for a shutdown.",
"Now we make it more alive.\n\nꦌ(ツ)ว",
"The fuck kind of comment is this? So someone is a piece of shit if they, for reasons unknown to us, can not do the same level of work as someone else?",
"Yup, you got it. Spot on!",
"It has been for close to a year now",
"Well I think we all know this is not supposed to be taken literally ffs",
"My comment went from +8 to -16 in 10 minutes, you might be on to something",
"Trump is holding the govt. hostage so he can throw innocent people, those who committed no crimes, out of America. ",
"Typical cost to install a concrete driveway is $7.50 to $9.00 per square foot. Highways are built much better than the driveway that quote applies to. Most highways also include expensive culverts and very expensive bridges. Some include hellaciuosly expensive tunnels. Large portions are built in the middle of nowhere, unlike your driveway. Also way more expensive.\n\nA mile long, 10 foot wide driveway is 52,800 square feet.\n\nGive yourself a big discount for economies of scale and figure $5/sq.ft. for a mile long driveway with no culverts, bridges, railings, stripes or lighting. Looks like you're well over a quarter million sheckel$. For a *driveway*.\n\nHow much more should a four lane highway cost? \n\nI think it has been a while since an average mile of four-lane has cost less than a million.",
"To be fair you might just be really dumb. ",
"What a bunch of clowns https://youtu.be/IC3W1BiUjp0",
"The pic is irrelevant, it's the political narrative that drives this shithole sub now",
"\"BAD government sucks. Let’s have more first term Clinton-style government and less of whatever this is\".",
"If that were the case they would be \"essential\" functions, not \"non-essential\" functions.",
"Don't assume that pursuing her will be easy.",
"It is more complying with dumb instructions, generally very literally, in a way that, due to the malicious intent of the person complying, don’t turn out as the asker hoped.\n\nAKA fucking with asshole bosses ",
"Can’t escape it anywhere on this site ",
"The Republicans want to take away benefits for kids and Dreamers. This is why your VA benefits are the way they are.",
"So this is how it feels to get cancer. ",
"Ewwwncringy dude, let it go.",
"turn that frown upside down...",
"You don’t have a very clear understanding of how our government works. \n1. Supreme Court is non-partisan despite being appointed and confirmed by both parties. Guess there goes your “3 branches” thing.\n2. Spending bill takes 60 votes, there are only 51 Republicans and McCain is out for cancer treatment. That sorta kills your “GOP is in control” thing since 10 Dems are needed to vote yes on spending and Schumer is leading a Democrat filibuster to prevent any Dems or Repubs from voting for spending.\n3. Trump is in charge of the Executive Branch, but the Executive Branch has no ability to spend a single dime without the legislative branch, because that is exactly how our government works. \n\nSo yea, you’re an idiot who never passed 3rd grade civics.\n",
"/r/MurderedByWords ?????",
"You sound like a real hoopy frood.",
"People don’t “need” the non-essential stuff. Like, it would be nice to get a guided tour of Ellis Island but nobody dies when you can’t get one. The only people actually put out by these non-essential services closing are the government workers who are furloughed.",
"is that a lasso",
"Me too but how’s that relevant",
"“I believe in immigration reform. What if I persuaded my caucus to say I’m going to shut the government down, I’m going to not pay our bills unless I get my way. It’s a politics of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis.”\n—Chuck Schumer, 2013",
"Trump was handed ALL he wanted on a golden platter and threw it away to spite Democrats.",
"Timing be everything man. This was reposted two years ago, and I assume something controversial was happening in government then, just as we have the shutdown now. Always capitalize on real life issues to reap the sweet sweet karma.",
"Or overcoming them via decisions made during this presidency! \n\nOr both. \n\nOr neither. \n\nAlmost.",
"Yeah! It's so unfortunate that all these things started kicking into high gear almost exactly on Inauguration Day. No wonder it's confusing to some people.",
"And yet Trump has said the President is to blame for any shutdown.",
"Maybe someone should tell her Obama is gone now, and its ok now",
"Yo where can I buy this shirt, I got one leg",
"I’ve noticed this on Reddit a lot: the people who harbour the most amount of hate, on average, are the ones that are against Trump. Don’t get me wrong, I hate Trump as well but I would never just assume someone is scum because they support him. The majority (not all, of course) of Trump supporters I have encountered are nice people and way less hateful than the “anti-Trumpers” I have encountered on Reddit. ",
"No, just post as you will and bask in the losing liberal's salty tears.\n\nEdit: ahhh, salty downvotes. ",
"I suppose I mean, presents the will of the people in general. \n\nThe fucked up thing is that a lot of people in the 1700s were pro Indian killing. For the first half of the twentieth century, the wars were generally supported by the public (or moreso than the second half up to modern day). \n\nI would also argue that the economic problems of the nineteenth century weren't really a result of the government. It was capitalism at its worst. The government did later set regulations and laws in place to make it bearable again.",
"What if we just flip the photo ",
"I don’t think there is any tyrants in power right now",
"Sounds about right.",
"And yet many people declare that liberals saying mean words made them vote for Trump",
"Yes, it is what I mean.",
"A towel's the most massively useful thing any hitchhiker can carry",
"You do not use that delicacy derogatorily, heathen!",
"Just because there is less government doesn't make it any better.",
"Pics \nPoics \nPolics \nPolitcs \nPolitics",
"It's a cowhide",
"Right,I'm at the point that I'm going to unsubscribe from r/pics because it's just bombarding my front page with US politics.",
"The only thing this picture proves to me is how desperate some people are to insult their own country/govt.\n\nYes the us govt may be bad, I’m assuming she’s American, but to weaponize your disability to make fun of the unpopular-on-Reddit, current administration is just, well, sad, in a desperate ‘hey everyone look at me’ way",
"What I meant was that the people who carry out those roles still need a salary.",
"Keep telling yourself that ",
"According to the people who push the idea that all government is useless and wasteful spending. According to people who want to gut and privatize Soc. Security and Medicare.",
"No, only a few critical parts are still running, and with only the most critical employees of each. And their definition of \"critical\" is pretty narrow.\n\nPlus, even if it only lasts a few days, it can take weeks to fully get everything back on track. This is really gonna fuck up the rocket launch schedule on the east coast for example",
"The_donald's core group is not interested in discussing or conversing about anything. They just want to piss off liberals and worship Trump.\n\nThere is no point conversing with a TD member. That subreddit has proven time and again to be untrustworthy.\n",
"Would make more sense if Bernie 'Bread Lines' Sanders was elected.",
"No, they've seen the post before, they literally have no life outside of Reddit. Repost shamers are content junkies!",
"r/wholesomememes",
"Well, if it's \"non-essential\" then by definition no one \"needs\" it, but that aside, see my above comments on posturing and drama. \n\nThe concept of a shutdown is artificial, the things they shut down are artificially chosen to put pressure on the government to reach a deal. The money was already appropriated well in advance, there's no practical reason they need to close anything. It's essential performance art, political theater. ",
"And who would be giving their money to every stranger who needs it otherwise?",
"It is silly to blame either side exclusively. Both sides could have avoided this by giving in to the other's desires, but both were unwilling to do so.\n\nThe larger problem is that the country is becoming so divided, everything is becoming so partisan, that compromise is seen as weakness instead of necessity. Both sides are increasingly unwilling to compromise, and that leads to these kinds of fights and stand-offs, and makes it increasingly difficult to actually get anything done. Personally I find it sad, but the vast majority of Americans are perfectly happy to scream about how it is the other side's fault.\n\nI should probably add, for fairness, that I am a government worker and am getting a free vacation out of this, so I have no personal dog in the fight. But it is still pathetic to witness.",
"Yes. ",
"Wow CNN used some autistic child to spread negativity. Deplorable ",
"Humanity without a mask.",
"Being disabled myself I want this shirt.",
"It’s almost as if that barely makes any sense!",
"Let's be real here. No she couldn't.",
"Nobody gives a shit. ",
"E v o l u t i o n",
"To all the people that think this is about Trump,it is not.\n\nIt's a repost from 2013 so Obama's presidency time.\n\n\nAlso this isn't r/politics so stop uploading pictures about politics to r/pics\n",
"If you think Trump supporters are equivalent to the Nazis, you really don’t have a very good grasp on history...",
"It's pretty frustrating because everybody seems to be on one extreme or the other: either the government is completely useless or it's the greatest thing ever because we landed on the moon.\n\n",
"Why? Because I don't want to see Soc. Security or Medicare gutted and privatized?",
"Idek why ur getting upvoted m, you just stated a fact. Or maybe it's because the white goose disagrees with the facts...",
"That is a funhouse mirror version of the parent's quote. Both sides are so enmeshed in their own partisanship that they cannot recognize that they are doing exactly what they attacked the other side for doing last time. It is pathetic.",
"This is fucking stupid",
"But Obama caused the 2008 recession just by campaigning! Imagine how much the actual president could impsct the economy\n\n/s",
"FRANKS AND BEANS!!",
"Because they are toxic, hateful people and I've never met a decent one? ",
"Sadly, that's what happens when political leaders are such fuckups that even memelords online are paying attention.",
"They don't know.\n\nI mean \"they\" not in the trans non binary (which is not even possible because of sexual dimorphism in our species) way, but as a plural pronoun \n",
"That's hilarious. Stay funny pretty lady.",
"exactly,it's infuriating that people keep posting and posting cellphone images about US politics.",
"Then you are blind",
"DACA doesn’t expire until March? A lot of legislation can pass before March. How is that not enough time?\n\nYou are getting bad info from your handlers. Trump will sign s DACA extension if it is put on his desk. No such extension has been passed by Congress.\n\nRepublicans have done NOTHING to affect CHIP. You’re such a tool right now. The only thing affecting CHIP is Schumer’s filibuster. If he would sit down and shut up and let ten Dems vote with the 50 Repubs, CHIP would be completely funded.\n\nWhat a stupid thing to say.",
"Sure but that doesn't mean that people should just give up on them and say to themselves that they're, for lack of a better term \"unchangeable.\" I just wanna keep dialogue open because what if there are some of them who are doubting themselves but people just shut them down because of there past. This is just my opinion and I probably sound like a retard so if I do just disregard me.",
":( ",
"Trump is very Nazi friendly. T_d is very Nazi friendly",
"[Don’t forget to bring a towel!](https://youtu.be/IAUcHcVnzBM) ",
"As the parent of a disabled child, I love this shirt and want one for my son. Also, my son would like his pants back.",
"Want to talk about past quotations?\n“I believe in immigration reform. What if I persuaded my caucus to say I’m going to shut the government down, I’m going to not pay our bills unless I get my way. It’s a politics of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis.” —Chuck Schumer, 2013\n\nTrump could not have envisioned that Schumer would be this huge of a hypocrite on this very exact issue. Republicans have completely taken DACA off the table to get the government spending bill passed, and Congress has until March to pass DACA reform (which Trump has said over and over he would support keeping DACA despite his base’s objections). ",
">I have over 300 confirmed friends.\n\nr/absolutelynotmeirl",
"Who's crying? ",
"Thats 2 employees per mile at barely over minimum wage with no equipment.",
"Woah did I wake up in a different time?",
"Hahahahaha\n\nSee. Scum. I was right.",
"Seriously, this chick has a great sense of humor, I'd laugh. Why can't people just appreciate a joke for a joke.",
"Who’s a tyrant then",
"They need somewhere to vent, let them.",
"Holy shit, OP cross posted this to r/imgoingtohellforthis, lmao",
"Oh cool, another political post from /r/pics at the top of /r/all",
"I know you from porn, I swear. ",
"Poor spiderman.",
"DONT PURSUE LU BU.",
"And yet, whatever may be going on right now, Trump has said in the past the President is responsible for a shutdown.",
"As someone with autism, I'd expect most of us to be rather opposed to President Winfrey, actually.",
"/r/cancer",
"I personally do not care for Trump and I don't care to share anything more in regards to him. I was simply making the point that the house and senate vote on continuing government operations speaks louder than words in regards to explaining many of their intentions.",
"It's a lot more than a few, and the bar for what qualifies as essential is so high that very little is safe. They're going to withhold military salaries fer Chrissake.\n\nAlso, all those essential functions can't really function without many of the non-essential ones, so they're basically just wasting the emergency funding anyway. ",
"Aussie done that. Everyone was fired",
"Lmao",
"So old. Nice karma whoring.",
"r/donaldtrumpquotes is leaking",
"The thumbnail works so well on mobile",
"Because last time, it was a party issue. This isn’t a party issue this time lol",
"She's like 20, I'm sure she bought her own shirt",
"Lol",
"Why would liberal media report on problems in liberal cities due to neglegence by liberal mayors? ",
"The_donald is more than willing to take advantage of your willingness to keep a dialogue open.\n\nTo whom it may concern: Unsubscribe from your right wing hatred groups. Then we can talk.",
"So apparently this is a repost. I'm on the internet ALL the time, like constantly. So If I haven't seen it, and you people know its a repost, how fucking long are YOU mother fuckers online for? forever?",
"You're being Berry rude. ",
"You kinda look like Chloe from Life is Strange when she was in that wheelchair",
"His bullshit is directly costing me money right now, as were are working with a government research lab. \n\nWhy do I need to present an argument? Does his daily behavior not speak for itself? Does reading what his supporters say not speak for itself? It's so one sided it's ridiculous to argue about it. You are either against Trump or you are a shit person.",
"ELI5: You just have a bad understanding of government and how our legislation works. Spending bill needs 60 votes to stop Chucks Schumer’s filibuster and pass Senate. 45 Republicans are going Yay, they need all Republicans and at least 10 Dems to join them. It would be 51 Republicans needed 9 Dems, but McCain is out with cancer. There are likely 10 Dems who would break ranks and pass spending which is why Chucky is acting up.\n\nEdit: corrected vote count from 50 to 45 as pointed out by others. ",
"Yeah, that doesn't make much sense really, but dropping support for democrats because you don't agree with their rhetoric is fine.",
"There are plenty of \"honest, hardworking people\" living paycheck to paycheck who do not have enough money to save. \"Stupid, unnecessary things\" like an insured car, health insurance, and medications? Those people aren't benefiting from the stock market, and they are the ones who need all the subsidies that no longer exist. \n\n[This article](https://www.recode.net/2017/5/26/15656120/manufacturing-jobs-automation-ai-us-increase-robot-sales-reshoring-offshoring) shows that jobs have been coming back since the early years of Obama. Just because Trumps brags about jobs coming back, doesn't mean he's the reason.",
"No it doesn't. ",
"This sub is turning into a political shithole",
"K, where then? ",
"The Republican machine helmed by trump",
"lmao okay KGB spy... you understand that donald trump is a rejection of the establishment right';",
"I can understand not voting for Hillary . I can't understand voting for Trump",
"Man, that shirt looks good for being 8 years old!",
"Response was about coastal borders, not highways.",
"> Fox & Friends: Who gets fired if there is a government shutdown?\n> \n> Trump: “Well if you say who gets fired, it always has to be the top. Problems start from the top and they have to get solved from the top and the president’s the leader”\n> \n> (9/30/13) \n\n",
"Then let them, base it off individual people. If one person or even a group of people seem like they don't want to have a conversation then don't. But wait to make that judgement until after you try to discuss with them.",
"This has been true for a very very long time. Trump however is our messiah figure to expiate the sin of the US federal government over the last few decades. Now we all love GWB.",
"Wow such a hilarious and well timed joke top win. The irony is so amazing lol lol lol.\n#schumershutdown",
"This is how you people Reddit? What the frick?!",
"you're sick minded to see this picture and think that. And are you saying the government isn't dysfunctional? I'm thinking the OP isn't the disabled one in this thread.",
"Whether or not they're good people has nothing to do with anything, really. They think they're the good people too. I bet you assume every person who posts in there is racist, believes everything trump says, and listens to Alex Jones.",
"I teach Civics. I’m telling *YOU* that.",
"So it's OK for Dems to take my benefits hostage bc they want to push their agenda. How dare you. ",
"Holy shit that's a mighty fine CopyPasta alt.",
"Not retarded. Cerebral Palsy",
"#Fakenews",
"Economy of scale. I doubt think the cost guard is over funded and they pay a very important role in our security. However, their budget isn't small.",
"You argue like a 5 year old.",
"What is this, an episode of the office? ",
"It's been r/politics lol",
"We've got a bleeder!",
"The tolerant left in action!",
"You don't seem to understand how much of the government got shut down. It's not luxuries; those were cut or outsourced years ago. It's every support function imaginable, as well as many functions that most sane people would recognize as critical. Even operating at full capacity, the government runs on a perpetual shortage of resources, especially in the enabling department. ",
"She can run better than the government and Tom Brady",
"Hm, weird. A lot of people are misspelling \"pics\" for \"politics\" the last year. ",
"She probably has a better job than you.",
"/r/wholesomecopypasta",
"This has a ton of upvotes and people agree with the shirt, but at the same time the vast majority of people on reddit want to expand the government. Why?",
"I’d say she runs exactly like the government does.",
"r/libertarian",
"I like farming karma off the brainless community of r/pics HahHahA!! Fuck Trump! Upvote me plz :333",
"Can someone explain the name of this sub for me?",
"I say this all the time when I see young adults get all riled up about how tough they have it: You aren't being sent off to war, you're not in a nation being invaded by a foreign army, you live in a nation that will literally pay for your food and housing if you can't afford it, transportation is cheaper and more readily accessible than it's ever been, and you have all the knowledge gained in the history of mankind available in a little box you can hold in your hand. How bad are things, exactly?\n\nWe should always strive for better, but this idea of things being worse than ever that's repeated ad naseum is utter nonsense. We're in like the top .1% of situations in the history of mankind. If you were born anywhere after 1955 or so in the US you're one lucky sonofabitch. ",
"What?",
"So? Where have you been? You need to get hip to the way things work around here, bud. Everyone knows if you have a picture of a \"protester\" or \"marcher\" holding an anti-Trump sign, anything anti-Trump in general, anti-government, anti-American, and lastly if you were fat and are no longer fat, you post it here and you get gilded several times and lots of upvotes. Get with the program.",
"No, you gotta read what I wrote, not what you imagined I wrote.\n\nTry again.",
"/r/woosh ",
"**very** uncomfortable pose",
"Cerebral Palsy. Not CNN. Old repost.",
"wow selling out your mongoloid kid for liberal narratives how low can you fuckers go",
"Him.",
"You go girl disabled veteran here",
"zing!",
"\\>2016 elections: reddit screeches autistically about trump \"mocking a disabled reporter\" (proven false)\n\n\\>2018: reddit upvotes by the thousands an image of a disabled girl in order to **use her disability** as the means to which they can shit on the government\n\n🤔🤔🤔 ",
"Yes, that's an excellent way to artificially induce pressure, isn't it? It wouldn't work if you didn't shut down anything that pissed people off.\n\nHowever, as someone who works for the government, it really seems to me like I'm still working and nothing that matters in the short term is impacted. Maybe I'm wrong, did I imagine going to work the last few days?\n\nAgain, political theater.",
"\"people who disagree with me are scum\" this is why politics are as toxic as they are now",
"Sassily leaning on your hand to reply",
"Wouldn't be struggling so hard if the people in charge weren't in charge...",
"I just want to point out that if the government wasn't there this girl would probably have been sold as dog meat by now, or a sex slave, or whatever.\n\nThat's just the reality, in countries that do not have a good government the disabled do not fare well at all.\n\nJust remember wheels, your government has more to do with the fact that you get to live a reasonably safe and happy life than you do.\n",
"Reddit loves handicaps who make gun of themselves.",
"You sicken me. You just equated her disability with a perceived mental disorder. just because she is in a wheelchair doesn't mean she is retarded.",
"> like Republicans are doing with the children who need CHIP\n\nThe house [passed a bill extending CHIP](http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll606.xml) back in November. Democrats voted against it, and it was never voted on in the Senate due to Democrat opposition. Democrats did not like the things being defunded in it in order to fund CHIP.\n\n> or with dreamers\n\nWithout border security and immigration reform, it would be foolhardy to pass any amnesty or else we will find ourselves in this exact same predicament in 20 years' time.\n\n> Democrats are trying to help hundreds of thousands of individuals who Republicans have already agreed to pass a bill to help, but have refused to actually put into action.\n\nAs you said, Republicans have already agreed to pass a bill to help. You can't just call this one-sided just because you like what the Democrats want to pass but not what the Republicans want to pass. \"It takes two to tango.\"",
"That's the -requirements- for posting there! ",
"We did those things in spite of the government not because of it. If they take 50% of the money out of the productive part of the economy and end up with a couple trinkets of their wasteful spending that's still dysfunctional.",
"Uncomfortable laugh from government representative who is in a wheel chair. ",
"Mine's at -6 and falling.",
"Yeah, because it's THAT BAD",
"You missed my second sentence.",
"Always love to see people with disabilities in high spirits and able to make light of their situation.",
"They've got you so mind fucked with their wasteful spending you think it takes 5 figures to pay for what binoculars could handle.",
"absolutely rekt",
"It's an Obama-era photo, so...",
"How about we just kick everyone out and start over without any incumbents? I could get behind that.",
"the reality is that you sound like a salty ass.",
"I mean she *has* legs. They just don't work. ",
"No its called holding people accountable for their words/actions.\n\n\nThis is why scummy Rs vote for pedophiles. They think just cause it happened in the past it no longer matters. Fucking troglodytes",
"Brought peace!",
"True",
"no shame in shutting down the government.",
"Eh, if you're deployed you can go without getting paid for a good bit. I'd be more worried about the married private stateside.",
"Thats the biggest lie ive seen today.",
"Then why use all of those things to boast about Obama?",
"God bless Trump! He shut down the government!? I love Trump now! Do you need government or something? Are you a disable?",
"Hey buddy, we're trying to engage in a good old shameless Reddit political circlejerk in the most highly esteemed and distinguished political sub on Reddit... ya know, /r/pics... the \"*place where politics comes to die*\"^®. If you think your pesky facts and truths are going to interfere with us ravenously engaging in a one-sided uninformed ~~debate~~ dick-slapping session about this *beautifully* and elegantly composed photograph of a person holding a sign, then you are DEAD wrong!!! Don't you know that the only '*facts*' that are important here are the ones that already conform to my personal Reddit-approved ideology and worldview. Therefore, in the standard Reddit fashion, your non-conforming '*anti-facts*' should and will be downvoted into invisibility and irrelevance. \n\nNow, back to the matter at hand... what's something '*enlightened*' and '*tolerant-sounding*' I can say in the most startlingly *intolerant* and hateful way possible?",
"[Do iiiiit!](https://www.google.com/search?q=I+run+better+than+the+government&client=firefox-b-1&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj127Kc8OnYAhVaImMKHQWxB7IQ_AUICigB&biw=1241&bih=639)",
"People like you should stay away from politics. ",
"https://i.imgur.com/GfuiUkq.jpg",
"They've always been toxic.",
"I never said anything about \"how tough I have it.\"\n\n> you live in a nation that will literally pay for your food and housing if you can't afford it\n\nSo there's help for food, but it's more complicated than that and people still go hungry. But since when has the government paid for housing? If that was true and it was effective there wouldn't be homeless people.",
"lmfao \"exceptional examples of photography\" you're on one.",
"Because every body thinks \"***I*** can do a better job! If we try it, it will work!\"",
"Yet he was once in the KKK. if Donald was in the KKK but quit, would you have the same opinion?",
"Im a racing car passing byyyyyyyy LIKE LADY GODIVA",
"You have been banned from r/gump.",
">ancap \n\n>libertarian \n",
"Handles things better than the government",
"Who has?\n\nEdit: re-read and nevermind. I get your point but it has been getting a little out of hand over the past 2 years",
"You want to gas her?",
"Haven't heard much about the ungodly amounts of corruption in Chicago lately either. ",
"That’s not nice to make fun of yourself like that",
"Politics",
"The Dems are the minority. The budget only needs 50%+1 to pass. How it is the minority's fault?",
"At least the government will run again. ",
"Lucky for H&M they didn’t post this first. ",
"Put it in the air ",
"It won't well as well as her though. Did you read the shirt?",
"Yeah. I'm sure her and her family would have been just fine without government support..",
"Can you please explain why it's incorrect? Try not to act like an indignant cunt and let us know what other issues were so contentious that they refused to compromise, even after Republicans compromised on DACA.\n\nI'm not with the right, by the way. But as someone looking both ways from the middle or outside depending on how you label it, this was entirely brought on by an attitude that since they can't get everything they want, everyone loses, and that's not how it's supposed to work. ",
"Thanks UN",
"Cute girl with a sense of humour, what's not to like?",
"Spectacular title! Not sure how you came up with it but you should think about a career in titling posts!",
"Either you're being sarcastic or you just ignore murder rates lol",
"Yeah I re-read that and it makes sense to me now my bad lol",
"[Relevant](https://youtu.be/eXBqf4Gfuo0)",
"... you don't seriously believe that do you? It's been a year",
"Lol",
"[You haven't seen me in my gradual (but final) form!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzDTOWdEaRk)",
"jeez dude have some sympathy. can't just go throwing the r word around like that.",
"Genious",
"I don't understand how this is widely considered the truth, but yet we all advocate single payer or other government run health care systems aggressively. ",
"Republican president, congress, and senate.\n\nHmm.",
"Can we leave all the political shit in /r/politics?",
"This post makes you sound really dumb. \"I'd support it if it was permanent but since it goes back up I'd just rather not have lower taxes at all.\"\n\nWhat? If you actually support lower personal income tax isn't a temporary break better than nothing?",
"Not sure how I feel about those chocolates.",
"I agree that it doesn’t belong in pics, but what does T_D have to do with this?",
">racism, bigotry, pedophilia, high treason, sexual predation\n\ncare to post a source for each one of ~~this retarded bullshit~~ those accusations? especialy the pedophilia bit, I'm really curious.",
"/r/libertarian",
"Oh right, only republicans have scandals? Lmao, \"It's fine to lookup post histories to try and embarrass people if they disagree with me. You'd have to be stupid to disagree with me, and it's ok to embarrass stupid people!\"\n\nYou know the funniest part of all of this? This post is getting upvoted because r/all thinks this girl is liberal! I guess they missed the 8 previous years where the government accomplished very little",
"Government is set up largely to help the less fortunate, including people with disabilities. It's nice that she's cheerful, but I wish she'd recognize that the system has helped her & her family. I think she's been misled.",
"But muh roads!",
"that's not an argument.",
"I’m not sure what you think is shut down... literally every essential government service still operates and nobody would even notice a change (unless you’re one of the furloughed government workers).\n\n\nhttps://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1F8040",
"http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/20/politics/senate-vote-government-shutdown/index.html\n\nThe golden platter doesn't matter when it's outnumbered by vote. Keep in mind voting \"YES\" denotes that this is a vote to keep the government operating. Voting \"NO\" denotes a vote for government shutdown.",
"Ron Swanson approved",
"Doubt it",
"Nice repost",
"Can't tell if boy or girl or at least 17. Either way. 10/10 will bang.",
"This sub is basically a crawl space for td. So no.",
"True, but can you get a decent cup of tea.",
"M E T A \n\nE \n\nT\n\nA\n",
"this one is more legit ?\nhttps://tipstershub.com/user/678-raimis",
"I would understand and comprehend that he quit the KKK. \n\nBecause facts are a thing.\n\nWhere are you going with this?\n\nRobert Byrd reformed.\n\nTrump is currently a lunatic racist. \n\nTrump is NEED of reformation.\n\nIf Byrd was still alive I would want him to talk to Trump as Byrd was once a racist and reformed. He knows the deal.",
"I don’t think trump is a big hitler fan but I don’t really know I’m not here to argue with people ",
">Wouldn't be struggling so hard if the ~~people in charge weren't in charge...~~ damned Dems weren't holding the budget hostage for irrelevant socal issues.\n\nFtfy.\n\n",
"You also know that government policy, specifically the fed do dictate the money market and therefore do have an influence ",
"Cringe",
"Trump was handed ALL he wanted on a golden platter and threw it away to spite Democrats.\n\n",
"> His bullshit is directly costing me money right now\n\nlol rekt",
"Sorry gonna have to disagree. Most people don't make fun of their own condition like that. And that's what makes people uncomfortable. It's not that they're treating them like they're less than human. It's that many people have never been in a situation in which someone makes fun of their own disability.\n\nAlso humor is subjective and nothing makes it even more uncomfortable than demanding people to laugh.",
"Definitely a fart.",
"I understand how it'd seem that way to a virtue signalling soyboy, but facts are facts bub. \n\nShow me a place on earth without a stable government that takes anywhere near the amount of care toward its disabled as western countries do.\n\nEither that, or just keep calling me salty because you lack the intellectual wherewithal to refute what I'm saying. ;)",
"You make the world a better place. ",
"Holy crip it's a craple",
"They see her rollin, they hatin'",
"Trump supporters are pedophiles, but are also pizzagate conspiracy theorists. 🤔",
"This is far more disturbing than the original.",
"Liberals_irl",
"Correct. I'm not trying to argue. ",
"Both. It's two huge problems Chicago faces. But their Democrat state and Democrat city, which have been the most corrupt places in the country for decades, seem to have taken a backseat in the media. ",
"Considering the president's physique...yeah probably.",
"The top, pinned comment on literally every r/pics post about politics is about how to filter political pictures out. Use the filter and stop whining ffs",
"No, probably just that you should have been.",
"God Emperor. No. I'm not kidding. They are that cringey",
"The most saccharine wall of text I've ever seen.",
"Good bot.",
"Because people get offended at the sliiiiiiightest provocation, leaving people to walk on eggshells. Then people get offended by the fact you're walking on eggshells.",
"turn that frown upside down...",
"God Emperor. I wish it was a joke.",
"I wonder how much they paid the origional owner of this account?",
"Equal to the government ",
"the_donald doesn’t support any of those things, they just make retarded shitposts that people label as “hate posts”, which is their main goal. ",
"Awful, why use your disabled daughter to promote your political message. Absolutely disgusting. ",
"Or going to a TED talk.",
"hahaha. Look at me, I'm so smart with my words and winky faces. ;)",
"You're not my supervisor! ",
"Oof!",
"I run better than ~~the government~~ the Congressional GOP. \n\nFTFY",
"LOL with McConnell and Graham, two senior Senate Republican leaders, voting no.\n\nThe statement that the Great Orange Negotiator is a weak President still stands.\n",
"And I am saying no, there are no good trump supporters.\nTrump is a wretched vile human filth, to support him in any way is indefensible.",
"Even if that’s accurate, it took Obama 8 years to actually get jobs to come back 6 months before leaving the presidency. Trump has done far more in a fraction of the time.\n\nThere are also plenty of people who are hardworking and honest who have saved money to take advantage of the stock market. Just because somethings doesn’t benefit absolutely every person in America doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing. It’s not like it’s a detriment to those living paycheck to paycheck. After all, maybe they’ll be able to take advantage of it soon since they’re paying less in taxes!",
"What does that mean? ",
"Why try when you can't, right? ",
"This is a federal government shutdown. The states and localities are still functioning just fine.\n\nThis happened in 2013, 1996, and 1978, not exactly common. Last time, it was over actual budgetary disagreements, when the Democrats were trying to drastically modify the budget.\n\nThis time, it's being done because the Democrats want to serve illegal aliens. I care about people regardless of their status, but this is worlds different.\n\nNot to mention, the Republicans who were primarily responsible for the government shutdown actually want the government to do less, so it's not like their platform relies on the federal governtment's intervention in people's daily lives.\n\nIn any case, it'll probably be over within two weeks.",
"Judging by the 40+ upvotes, I’d answer yes to both. ",
"\"They called people who chants 'hail trump', 'blood and soil' and 'jews will not replace us' nazis! Time to become a nazi myself! That will show them!\"",
"we miss you Harambae",
"http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bone-hurting-juice?full=1",
"Show me a road built with binoculars!",
"Fuck man. This country is a mess.",
"I'd assume you'd still feel the same way if your father was shot and killed while he wasn't even on the clock?\n\nOr you were the mother of a soldier whom has three children, one of which is in the hospital with a serious illness or injury and has just used the *last* of the savings?",
"LOL ",
"This is why we should have *less* government, not more government.",
"Keep telling yourself that",
"Yeah. We do care. This is meant to be an attack on republicans and trump but the person posing is from Obama's shutdown in 2013.",
"you have low standards",
" #whitetrashlivesmatter",
"Not all trump supporters are nazis but all nazis are trump supporters.",
"Is it a joke? GOP control the House, the Senate and White House - how could it happened? GOP can ramp through the tax bill how hard for them to get Govt funding?",
"Nevermind the fact that a bipartisan bill got to Trump's desk and he refused to sign it",
"Less government means less support for you and your family. No Medicare, social security, help with literally anything. ",
"You are showing that you don't actually know what you're talking about and should be glad he didn't address your subsidy argument. The tax bill didn't change the student loan intrest deduction. You are thinking of the original House plan which gutted a number of education related dedictions. Those were not in the Senate version and did not go into the signed combined version.\n\nThis is my biggest frustration with these arguments. People on both sides argue passionately about the bill but didn't actually read it or take the time to calculate the actual impact. They just parrot points from whatever summary article they remember.",
"Dems are the minority. There only needs to be a 51% approval of the budget. How is it the minority's fault?\n\n",
"Low",
"Reminded me of this one I saw at the nyc one yesterday https://i.imgur.com/lenoNWn.jpg",
"lol it's funny because i also don't understand how government works",
"False ",
"I run worst than a one legged Thai hooker with aids",
"You are a #cuck",
"*The Middle* - the dark years",
"No it doesn't. ",
"I'm pretty sure it's the democrats that didn't vote for that bill. Don't get me wrong, they could easily be right not to, but blaming the GOP is definitely wrong. ",
"LOL",
"Well that's because that is the goverment's duty. You are basically saying that we can't criticize the goverment because it \"saves us\"? That's a pretty fucked up logic.",
"Don't hold your breath on that\n\nThey're literally saying we should be segregated from a community, I know they have no clue what they're saying when they call us Nazis but that's some straight Nazi tactics on there part. ",
"Faster, too!",
"Most people would probably try to be sensitive to making any kind of remark about another persons disablitly. When they themselves make a joke about it, it might surprise them and make them uncomfortable to laugh at it because then you are agreeing “ha, yeah that’s right, you can’t walk!” \n\nThe real cherry on top is that this isn’t even OP and OP is actually a regular the_donald poster. ",
"You can't deny that the loss of these essential services would be a result of smaller government. ",
"I'm against it because it's such a dirty underhanded thing. A huge amount of people don't know that it goes back up. They'll just get fucked in 10 years, and the administration of the time will be blamed for it.\n\nLower taxes for the poor/middle class: good \nraising the taxes of those who need the money while leaving the taxes of billionaires low: bad",
"I KILLED HIM AND ATE HIS SOUL! BWA HA HA HA HA",
"Most of you people go to T_D with the intent of starting shit up and getting banned, then crawl back to your circlejerk \"hurr hurr T_D hates facts\". I've been there since the beginning and disagreed many times and never been banned once.",
"There are many layers of bureaucracy.",
"I think they managed to successfully pin that on a Republican.",
"r/RoastMe",
"I can. That has nothing to do with the size of the government ",
"So you think a reformed racist should talk to someone who is not a racist because you have critical thinking errors? Would this hypothetical situation if it was possible actually make you happy in some wwird way? Man I'll tell you the liberal thought process is borderline special needs worthy. ",
"LOL by all means please keep going with THAT talking point. You guys are getting tired of losing.\n\nIt takes 60 senate votes to pass CR. \n\nCombined Support for Keeping Government Running;\nRepublicans - 271 Yes, 16 No (95% Support)\nDemocrats - 11 Yes, 229 No (5% Support)\n\nBut \"hurr durr it's Trump's fault\"!!!\n\n",
"I'm talking about guarding the cost... roads (flat land) on the other hand can be accomplished for pennies on the government dollars spent.",
"What",
"...wow, okay. Come back when you know what \"big\" and \"small\" government is.",
"/r/swordorsheath",
"Ah, so you have no real answer.\n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/AwBFXQ6.jpg",
"This is true, but I was too lazy to explain better.",
"r/pics better at political humor than that dumpster fire r/politicalhumor",
"Their tantrums have been in overdrive lately.",
"I don't just get my information from news sites, I get it from working in government as well. These shutdowns upend everything (except, of course, leadership), not to mention the psychological effect that drives talent into the private sector in a perpetual brain drain. Acting like it's no big deal is really fucking callous toward the millions affected by it with almost no warning. It might be political theater to those disconnected assholes, but it's very real to the rest of us. ",
"😂 Now you’re just messing with us right? The President is the United States cannot refuse to sign a bill. He either signs it or Vetoes it. Where is Trump’s DACA veto? We will all wait for you to Wakey Wakey from your blissful slumber. (We won’t).\n\nEdit: It was literally Trump’s idea for Congress to make DACA permanent, because after all he took an oath to the Constitution of the United States that says such legislation MUST be an act of Congress. [Article: Trump tells Congress to move on DACA ](http://beta.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-dreamers-20170905-story.html) ",
"> gorilla warfare",
"):",
"RIP in pepperoncini ",
"Wait. This isn't politically controversial is it? Do people disagree with this? ",
"Not all of Reddit is turning into r/politics light. Some of Reddit is turning into r/politics on meth. Some of it is turning into r/politics on bathsalts. ",
"What political message? You do know people can make jokes about government and politics and don’t have them be political right? ",
"Shirt doesn't say shit about \"anarchy rise up\" or anything. If im in a restaurant and say \"I don't like this meal I currently have\" it doesn't mean I'm just gonna stop eating food forever.",
"Dems are the minority. There only needs to be a 51% approval of the budget. How is it the minority's fault?",
"Lol where did I equate her disability with a perceived mental disorder? Sounds like you are projecting. ",
"Cool.",
"And the 2013 shutdown happened because, as usual, Republicans psychotically wanted to strip away health care from poor people. ",
"\nHow many votes does it take to keep the government open? 60. \nHow many Republicans are there? 51. \nHow many Dems need to vote for the CR? At least 9. \nWho's telling them not to do it? Chuck Schumer. \nWhy? No amnesty for illegal aliens in the CR. \nTherefore: democrats caused he shutdown.\n\nIt’s very simple.",
"I thought she was a talk show host not a reality TV star. You know, she interviews people and talks about issues in society. Her show was at least an hour long and she took the time to actually delve into the issues with in-depth questions and a diverse audience. Sure sometimes it was about recipes but other times it was about important topics. \n\nThat doesn't sound anything like Trump's TV career. ",
"she better be appreciated ",
"Trumpsters will downvote the shit out of this.",
"Blanket statements like what? I got downvote-nuked and have no idea why. IF you post using an account that primarily posts to T_D, THEN it will likely be brought up whenever you talk about anything political. Cause, effect. I made zero judgement, just a statement of fact. I don’t even know which side I offended.",
"Ohhh, the cirles are the hands, not the shoulders?",
"https://imgur.com/iR4u4QY\n\nI'll use a picture for you to help you understand ",
"ehhh.. i don't think that's the point of this sub at all. It's the default sub for sharing... pictures. Pics. If you want excellent photography, artwork, etc., there are loads of better, more specific subreddits that are for those types of things.",
"I thought Empathy trumped all. My bad!",
"Hardly a billionaire at that. Like just barely.",
"I can tell by her face she's never run. Nobody looks that happy running",
"I somehow doubt German politicians in the 1930s and 40s supported the American president of 2016",
"This chick is a grandma now. ",
"I mean.. not really though.",
" Hi ko",
"Well shucks then.\nPlease disregard my conclusion jumping.\nThank you.",
"https://imgur.com/MUY9MLw\n\nHere's a picture ",
"Ah yes, the default word you people use as an insult because your vocabulary is limited to dank ass 2017/8 memes.",
"Just give me a concrete example of a service the average American now goes without. That’s what I’m talking about. I get that if you work in government you’ll obviously have a biased opinion but honestly, what is something I can’t do now that I could do when the government isn’t shut down? Something essential.. ",
"The comment you just replied to",
"No, Trump is a racist. You have failed to understand this. \n\nRead up on the Sunk Cost Fallacy. I think it will help you get out of conservative mindset.",
"She’s making fun of the government by being self depreciating. If someone just took a picture of a disabled girl and put the caption “she runs better than the government” you could 🤔 all you want. She wore a shirt and pretended to be running while someone she knows took the picture and they posted it on the internet. I hope you can see the vast differences between these two scenarios.",
"republicans are their own worst enemy. the only thing they've done so far is for their donors - a giant tax cut for the super wealthy. It is the only thing republicans have accomplished with their majority. priceless.",
"???\n\nSmall government is generally believed to lead to a more efficient and flexible system. “Getting government off our backs” or “getting government out of the way” are cries to return to the low-tax, no-regulation beliefs of the American Revolutionary period. The size of government envisioned by the country’s founders sought to cast off tyranny and empower small businessmen and entrepreneurs.",
"Chuck Schumer ADMITTED to shutting down the government in 2013 in the future that it was literally his plan. SMOKING GUN\nThere’s literally NOTHING you can say right now as to who’s fault it is when he literally admitted it. ",
"With a terrible approval rating, not even half the country is tolerating him. And let's face it, if this girl made a video of her crying, saying she hates Trump, she'd get more support from ignorant hurr durr apes like you, than Trump in his next campaign. ",
"Brutal ",
"Punishing millions in the government or affected by it financially isn't going to have the effect of getting them on your side. It's just going to get us another Trump in 2020.\n\nI worked in the government too, and if there's one Golden Rule regarding taking care of your employees, it's that you *never* fuck with their pay. Food on the table means more than politics. ",
"THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WORK!\n\n\\>*votes for a candidate that will rapidly expand government*\n\n",
"She's not wrong",
"I like how you roll kid.",
"Awesome",
"Nah I got it, it just doesn’t make sense how someone who can’t run can run “better” than anything",
"It is the Governments duty, that's more or less my point.\n\nYou'll notice she wasn't bashing a specific policy or piece of legislation, which is what people should do.\n\nI get that it's cool to bash the government when you're young, but if you're not going to tackle a specific problem and would rather whine and bitch about how crappy the government is then I'm going to call you out on your bullshit every time, disabled or not.",
"Right, nothing to do with \"size of government.\"\n\nTo become \"small\" the government would end all of the services I listed and more. ",
"Shes cute. ",
"Not the republicans. The democrats.\n\n\nHow many votes does it take to keep the government open? 60. \nHow many Republicans are there? 51. \nHow many Dems need to vote for the CR? At least 9. \nWho's telling them not to do it? Chuck Schumer. \nWhy? No amnesty for illegal aliens in the CR. \nTherefore: democrats caused he shutdown.\n\n",
"Edgy trumpet.",
"> I would understand and comprehend that he quit the KKK.\n\nYou are so full of shit and you know it. You know damn well this would be a major talking point that you wouldn't just \"understand and comprehend\"",
"Here here",
"Pretty much, I took this earlier today:\n\nhttps://i.redd.it/acxhc6xq6fb01.png",
"A tax cut for the upper brackets opens up funds for the lower brackets to earn more money, this is evident as wages at some major companies have gone up, democrats didn't do too much in their first year either ",
"Top of your class in conflict resolution? Could you give us a rundown on the classic Win-Win-Win scenario in a conflict?",
"Jokes on her. At least the government runs.",
"Please leave. \nTake your heretical cracker abominations with you. ",
"I support the president of the US? Is that such a stretch to say that it's normal?",
"It is Trump's fault he couldn't even get 9 Dems to vote on his bill LMAO. when 4 of them are from red States.",
"Lol if you only got a $100 tax cut you don’t work very much and therefore wouldn’t qualify for the kind of Social services that workers pay into very much anyhow.",
"Wtf?",
"Did I say it was a good idea? It's ridiculous, it was ridiculous when the GOP did it under Obama and its ridiculous that the Dems are doing it now, and I think it is likely to backfire on them. \n\nMy only point is that the impacts of the shutdown are artificial, there is no actual reason the government has to stop doing or paying anything if a budget isn't passed by an arbitrary date other than political theater.",
"Yes. That's how political parties work.",
"Trump has nothing to do with it. Democrats overwhelmingly voted for illegal immigrants over Americans and the military. ",
"From fucking lefty bots. ",
"Vive la Ritz resistance!",
"Will it?",
"I'd bet money she can out run fat lazy trump",
"I need this shirt. ",
"I'm gonna go, go, go, there's no stopping me.",
"He should stop calling literal Nazis \"very fine people\", then",
"Hilarious and adorable! Love it!",
"Weird, I thought I remember someone saying it’s the people “at the top” who should be held responsible in the event of a shutdown. ",
"Oh look a pseudo intellectual that believes that he knows everything when in reality he's just a male feminist islamophile with an affinity for watching blacked.com",
"Not during a government shutdown. Non-essential government employees get laid off, which means Immigration & Customs don't have enough people to handle the workload, thus the immigration process slows down.",
"Morbid AF",
"You see that fancy little graph there? The uptrend starts in early 2010. All Trump has done is not reverse the trend.\n\nAnd good for those people. I didn't say the stock market is bad. I said it's not a good argument to defend Trump. And again. Less taxes doesn't mean less net loss; the will be paying for things that the no longer have subsidies for.",
"The end looks bleak.\n",
"This is strangely beautiful.",
"Yeah there are thousands of government workers that show up everyday and do their jobs well and effectively. Everyone thinks the government is just the selfish assholes we see on the news. The government isn’t the problem, grandiose politicians that don’t care about the American people are the problem.",
"There's no way 80% of Americans could even tell you what DACA is. Don't know where you pulled that number from. ",
"Just go to Google and do a search for Donald Trump.\nAll of this has been exposed, you just have stop pretending it hasn't.",
"Sounds like a PILLOW FIGHT! Who's in? I'll start! \\*whap\\*",
"ITT Trump supporters complaining that the rest of Reddit doesn't like their god emperor.",
"https://i.imgur.com/DPu3mJf.jpg",
"It requires little or no cognitive thought.",
"My bowels run better than the government.",
"Yes, because Trump was and still is a joke. Your fellow Americans didn't think their country was so gullible to vote for a pathological liar. Now that more people will vote after this fiasco of a presidency, there is no way Trump will get reelected. FYI the biggest part of the country didn't actually vote in 2016. Considering how the right rallied their base and made politics into a sport, i doubt that this part contains more republicans than democrats.",
"That has nothing to do with whether he's getting paid",
"It was an attack on Republicans both times, because Republicans were responsible for both shutdowns.",
"id use trumps hair as a mudflap",
"Can I have $100? I could really use it. ",
"No I just find it hilarious that you're willing to defend an ex high ranking KKK member while calling trump racist",
"There will always be addicts, those subject to terribly bad luck, and just general pieces of shit. So sure, there will always be some that go hungry and live homeless. But we're talking a fraction of the country. All you have to do to get free food is fill out a few forms. WIC and SNAP is so easy to obtain there is no excuse for going hungry. Not to mention the food banks and other programs found in virtually every city. If you're disabled, the govt will give you money to help pay your bills. There's an entire dept of the govt dedicated to housing assistance that provides reduced and free rent homes to qualified candidates. No, an able bodied drunk will not always qualify and will be stuck on the street. A single mother usually will. \n\nThere's always going to be a divide - not everyone is physically and mentally equal nor are they born into the same set of circumstances. And there's always room for improvement. But being \"poor\" in the US today still puts you in a historically envious situation. We have it really good. I'm not singling you out, btw, just speaking in a general sense.",
"I suppose you could make an argument for being ostracised by one side and the other seeming more welcoming, but I think that looking at parties as teams is still unhealthy.\n\n",
"LOL. With that logic only the first president ever did anything and the rest have been rising waves. What an absurd observation. ",
"The democrats shut down the government by voting for illegal immigrants over Americans and the military. They lost the midterms because of this. ",
"The moose out front should’ve told ya ",
"LMAO ",
"You however arent run by a moron.. The government is. :P",
"Yes so the democrats are to blame for this shutdown. They lost the midterms over this. ",
"Hey at least it's the Republicans that hate those ''handouts'' whose fault the shutdown is.",
"no but the shirt was photoshipped",
"60 votes in the senate required.\n\nHMmmmmMmmmMm!\n\nEdit: downvotes for a simple truth? Definitely on the front page.",
"she must be appreciated ",
"Very true for Germany at the moment - we got no government",
"It's r/pics, par for the course. ",
"Does she want to run for President? \n\nPlease?",
"I'm just trying to counter the comments that use these types of posts to push disability defunding propaganda. I don't think those brigades should go unprotested. Not when people's lives are on the line.",
"TIL disabled people enjoy Fresh Prince.",
"It's a joke about the US government shutdown, which happened because our country is so divided that we literally can't come to an agreement if the country depends on it. Soooo... yeah. Yeah, anything you say about the shutdown is going to be controversial and divisive as hell.",
"That was before Trump destroyed our lives. That was when Obama was healing us with live after the Bush attacks on humanity. ",
"Not quite, but almost. ",
"Nailed it! ",
"Those are called speed bumps.",
"Those people are a different kind of disabled.",
"Did your mail run on time for the last 100 Years? Did you get your social security check and Medicare benefits, grandpa? Did we put people on the fucking moon? Nah, you’re right, the entire government is totally incompetent.",
"Hmm, 90% voted for what Trump wanted instead of how the \"senior leaders\" voted. Yeah, that really shows how weak he is. ¯\\\\\\_(ツ)\\_/¯",
"It’s funny cause she doesn’t ",
"If you show me the original I will stand corrected",
"Ask the computer.",
"Lol even if he rapidly expands government (he's not) that would still be better than expanding it even faster (democrats).",
"They do, it's called trump derangement syndrome. What was once a joke now fills psychiatrist offices.",
"Idk about high gear. It's close to the same rate that was sustained for almost the entirety of Obama's presidency. The only major hiccups were both around the presidential elections, which is expected because people panic on both sides of the aisle and businesses are a bit more conservative with their actions until they know who's going to be in office. The S&P 500 is almost the exact same. It's too speculative to really tell much of a story.\n\nUnemployment rate is on the same trend as well.\n\nI don't think we'll really see any huge economic changes from Trump's administration until we have data from the next couple years.",
"Well it is run by fuckhead DT and dumbass repubs. ",
"So you're telling me that *none* of the previous subsides that people could take advantage of got cut?",
"Lol way to go democrats!!! ",
"You damn right you do !!!",
"@democrats",
"Because it's bought and paid for like most of the large subs on this site.",
"ITT butthurt big government lovers.",
"I could if I wanted to, of course. ",
"You don't get it.\n\nIf you were a mother of three and your father was overseas working to pay for the medical bills of a sick child I can assure you with 100% certainty you'd feel entirely different about the situation. It's not the right thing to do, on ANY grounds. It's quite sickening, actually that so-many humans on 'one side' of the argument chose to vote that way, and is very telling about how they would like things to be run.",
"Graphics these days are getting crazy. ",
"no me dirty dan pls",
"All of the internet.*",
"Imagine Trump denouncing people like Duke and actual white supremacists who rally behind him.. if only that was a thing, this conversation wouldn't even be happening right now. God forbid he lost some support from extremists by doing the right thing.",
"Do they usually give out the Ellis island awards to racists and the \"non racists\" have kkk members groom them?\n",
"is /r/pics being vote botted this past week?",
"Yeah, it's like they neurotically *have* to make sure it feels awkward.",
"Is her legs tied up so she can't escape or to prevent the legs falling off? ",
"Lul keep dreaming.",
"Ha! Ok, bud.",
"I wonder how she's stands on women's rights issues?",
"This is the most Canadian comment ive ever seen",
"Same approval rating Obama had at this point in his presidency ",
"He thinks he does. Refer to his Twitter verbal diarrhea from 2013.",
"r/copypasta",
"\"I use my disability to make cheap jokes HaAha\" ",
"Or it can be slathered in lubricant and be used in activities that required lubrication. ",
"It is a good argument to defend Trump. There are plenty of families who have benefitted from it.",
"Weird to see an anti Democrat post in reddit. Maybe people are finally waking up to their antics. ",
"This sounds straight from the mouth of Ignatius J. Reilly from The Confederacy of Dunces.",
"Nope, do your research: \n\nhttp://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx",
"Man, why you gotta ruin that emoji when you could just [very easily edit the image](https://i.imgur.com/b5k6NfB.png)?",
"These meme was true when it came out 4 years ago too.",
"Why do you keep saying it's artificial? *People aren't getting paid.* This includes most of the DoD. The military could walk away from their posts, and they'd be right. This isn't political theater; it's a ransom demand for anyone outside of Washington. Maybe things will get mostly fixed on paper eventually, but the unrecoverable cost is a lot higher than you seem to realize. And the people paying it won't be the politicians or even those politically involved, as always. ",
"Those people are a different kind of disabled.",
"actually, it appears that neither of you run AT ALL lmfao",
"Here’s what actually stays open:\n\n>The exact details of which government functions stop during a shutdown is determined by the Office of Management and Budget. \"Emergency personnel\" continue to be employed, including the active duty (Title 10) military, federal law enforcement agents, doctors and nurses working in federal hospitals, and air traffic controllers. For the Department of Defense, at least half of the civilian workforce, and the full-time, dual-status military technicians in the US National Guard and traditional Guardsmen (those on Title 32 status) are furloughed and not paid while the shutdown is in effect. Members of Congress continue to be paid, because their pay cannot be altered except by direct law. Mail delivery is not affected as it is self-funded and the funds are not appropriated by Congress. Programs that are funded by laws other than annual appropriations acts (like Social Security) also may be affected by a funding gap, if program execution relies on activities that receive annually appropriated funding.",
"Hence why we shouldn't have a president.",
"I am sorry. ",
"Jokes on you - it doesn't.",
"It is not,they're looking for moderators,that's all there is that I can see.\n\nAnd it's not about just seeing them here,it's that they get attention rather than other interesting/good pics.",
"You're a towel.",
"And we're sitting here talking about politics right now, that does not make us qualified to be a politician. I want nobody except the most qualified people representing our country to the world, and making major decisions that will impact the world for years to come.",
"It's weird seeing /r/sfgiants regulars in other threads. ",
"This isn't true. The government runs, albeit badly, but it does run. This girl does not run. ",
"Oof ",
"Take your damn upvote you magnificent bastard.",
"This is Roo Boyd. She's an adult - her opinions are her own. Also she's only physically injured, is completely normal in mind.",
"When you elect people from a party that hates government and works to weaken it, then sure. \n\nNot like the gov is intrinsically bad at running. \n\nBut good teenage edge. ",
"You raise some good points here. Thanks for a civil debate. The fact that I forgot half of this stuff makes me think that massively televised news on the government has unforseen consequences. By the way, would government shutdown effect those things?",
"You’re a towel",
"I don't think you're understanding what I am saying and I am not interested in arguing with you. Have a good day, try to take a deep breath and control your panic.",
"What’s wrong with that? At least she’s being positive about her condition. Not everyone with a disability wants to be treated like they have a disability all of the time. ",
"Get some fresh air man, travel a bit. It isn't that bad.",
"Accomplished very little? Sorry you are confusing your own life. \n\nBTW I never said Rs are the only ones to have a scandal you fucking inbred retard. Maybe you should learn to read. When they do we hold them accountable.\n\nAl Franken ring a bell you stupid fuck?",
"You support a racist, sexist, xenophobic, dementia addled idiot. Yes that is outside of the norm.",
"Lol",
"Did he say that? Can you link it?",
"You misspelled Republicans ",
"Trump was one of 80 individuals to receive the Ellis Island Medal of Honor in 1986, the first year that the National Ethnic Coalition of Organizations handed out the award. However, the fact that Donald Trump received the award and posed for a photograph says little about his motivations or whether or not he has racist tendencies, only that he received an award and participated in a ceremony meant to honor him (and others). \n\n(As for the rest of your comment, I understood nothing after the first 'racists'.) ",
"You look like a young Maggie Gylenhal.",
"Let's test this out. Someone push her chair over. ",
"I think you mean Chuck Schumer. \n\n. >We believe strongly in immigration reform. We could say ‘We’re shutting down the government. We’re not going to raise the debt ceiling until you pass immigration reform.’ It would be governmental chaos.\n\n- chuck Schumer in 2013\n\n>\"Open the government by putting a clean continuing resolution funding bill on the floor.\" \n\n-Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY), October 1, 2013\n\n>\"That is how a budget works, how appropriations works, and how our government is run. But to take an extraneous issue and to say unless we get rid of it, they are going to shut down the government, no way.\" \n\n-Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY), October 1, 2013 \n\n\n\n>\"Because to only talk while the government is shut down does huge damage to millions of innocent people and to our country's economy. They forgot to say: Let's vote. Then let's talk. Their motto should be modified.\" \n\n-Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY), October 4, 2013 \n",
"It can be used as a cold compress for aggravated feelings ",
"She's on a roll.",
"r/swordorsheath",
"Because repubs again. ",
"I don't think you understand that most people put their livelihoods above politics, but you're right that I'm wasting my time trying to get that across. Have a great day as well. ",
"So where does [this](https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4710181/senator-mcconnell-objects-military-pay-protection) fit into your narrative?",
"Do you think that She can run better ",
"> 50 Republicans are going Yay\n\nYou need to get your facts straight: Republicans had [45 voting yes](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/19/us/politics/live-senate-vote-government-shutdown.html).",
"Defending a person who stopped being racist versus a person who is still racist?\n\nWhy is this so difficult for you? ",
"It's not artificial. Or does your org not rely on Continuing Resolution Authorities (CRAs) to continue being funded? It's difficult to run anything when your unit leadership (military) essentially monopolizes funding and gives you partial funding due to fear that vital operations will no longer have funds because one party in Congress wants to extract outlandish concessions.",
"Nope. Democrats shut down the government. It's frankly idiotic to say otherwise. ",
"Good bot",
"Other good and interesting pics get attention. The cab pic is a nice picture with 110k upvotes. Also, I didn’t realize this one didn’t have it but most of them get tagged with a pinned auto-moderator comment. Some people are interested in politics/pics about politics. Your not. That’s fine, just filter it out.",
"Why'd you post this to r/imgoingtohellforthis too, then? ",
"Oh look, a Trump worshiper defending his filth dwelling brethren. Run back to your safe space kiddo, the adults are talking here.",
">Not like the gov is intrinsically bad at running.\n\nTurns out when you have to first take money from people to then spend that money on those people you are bad at running.",
"I just hate people who's only intent is to go around the internet spreading stupid bullshit for no reason.\n\nAnd I prefer watching Asian porn btw.",
"That doesn't have anything to do with anything I said. Keep thinking the sky is falling, though, have fun with that. ",
"...Wanna get high?",
"I mean, she can’t run so the gov probably would run better lol.",
"Ah nice copy paste. Not get Trump's where he says a shutdown is on the president.",
"Rasmussen is the most accurate\n\nhttp://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/political_updates/prez_track_jan19",
"Weenies and legumes!",
"... Oh",
"The government runs backwards. Not sure if that counts.",
"Maybe, just maybe, they are not the same people ",
"The biggest part of the country never votes in any election ever. I was on the fence about trump when he first ran but now that I can see what a great job he has been doing I’m fully on board and excited to vote for him 2020",
"Thank you",
"You post in r/the_dingus , your opinion of other subs means very little.",
"It doesn't really matter considering the girl made the joke herself. She posted it on the internet herself. So why would it matter if someone reposted the joke that she made?",
"I mean...he is. ",
"LMAO! Gotta love how the first step is always personal insults!\n\n\"You and the stupid cripple girl don't know how good Obama was!\"\n\n\nMaybe you should go back to being curled up in a ball sobbing about how unfair it is that bernie lost",
"I see what you did there.",
"Well, it’s running ",
"Although, people who say that are either not that invested in a large majority of their friendships or just compare social media friends as real ones. Or both\n\nAnyways, you probably shouldn't get too worked up over unattainable goals and he be thankful for the people in your life that care about you.",
"Isn't it at least possible the democrats are part of the problem too?",
"Man idc what side of isle you're on, her face is fucking priceless- brb, dying",
"We out here fam",
"This guy knows his stuff",
"The government sucks at everything. ",
"(y)",
"The GDP never grew at a rate close to last year at any point in Obama's 8 years. ",
"/r/politics, PoliticalHumor, the list goes on.",
"It's not really his doing, and not nearly as many as have been negatively impacted by him.",
"Alright!.... you wanna get high?",
"None of that is happening. And surely if it is none of it has to do with that racist filth in office. Let’s see a citation. ",
"Did it ever occur to you that *maybe* the political party that cheerleads a smaller government isn't on the level and negotiating in good faith? This is a party that confirmed people with no experience like DeVos, or even sued the very agency they now run like Pruitt. But sure, Democrats are just as culpable as Republicans.\n\nMick Mulvaney said [it was \"cool\"](http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/20/politics/mick-mulvaney-government-shutdown-kind-of-cool/index.html) to shutdown the government. I couldn't pick a better example that epitomizes their culpability and their glee in getting the mission accomplished whilst also giving the blame to democrats. But sure, dems are just as bad.\n\nDACA and CHIP have overwhelming support, and could be voted on as clean bills and would pass, but they wanted to use them as bargaining chips because Republicans know Democrats actually give a shit about marginalized groups.\n\nWe're getting trolled and some of us are so unaware they are actually falling for it. ",
"A hitchhiker's the most massively useful thing any towel can carry",
"The first source, had the exact same numbers, but with more detail, and more percentages, including comparisons. How is your source more credible? ",
"Most republicans voted to keep the government from shutting down. ",
"ZING 👈😎👈",
"Indeed. Otherwise her legs would be kicking each other.",
">That was before Trump destroyed our lives. \n\nLol\n\n>That was when Obama was healing\n\nLol",
"I don't know what your source is, but those were the conditions of the last shutdown. Unless military leadership is lying outright, All Title 10 and 32 personnel are having pay delayed this time around except by waiver and its renumeration is contingent upon a budget\n resolution. ",
"I'd hit it.",
"Burning through the sky, yeah! Two hundred degrees, that's why they call me Mr Fahrenheit! ",
"Should have clarified I’m on mobile and it won’t let me just copy the comment :/",
"She’s not an it",
"Okay? This girl isn’t ‘most people’ in that case song yes okay to laugh.",
"I love living in a republic",
"Holy fucking triggered... people think differently than you sometimes. Relax",
"I do enjoy the drama though. ",
"You think Trump won’t beef with you or something? You gon learn today...",
"And let the copypasta begin ",
"its the same picture just withuot the text on shirt",
"Hey guys! I found a bubble dweller! Hahahahaha ",
"Super edgy bro",
"But I'm sure her parents bought that shirt with her huge disabilty check ahe gets monthly ",
"Racists like you should stay away from civilization entirely.",
"Let's not forget an agreement was reached. Until a certain person insisted on getting funding for wall. Which I recall Mexico was suppose for pay for in the first place.",
"Weird how these career Senate leaders are the leaders ",
"Fuck this subreddit",
"Read what you wrote. People like you are the problem. Still salty bc you lost the election and taking it out in other ways. ",
"not a single proof, got it. ",
"I support the US government? What's wrong with that? ",
"Projection. They do it, so they wrongly assume others do aswell.",
"Okay, I guess I am imagining work then. And All my coworkers. And I guess I imagined it being a meaningless bit of political theater that meant nothing when I went through a shutdown while I was still active duty too.\n\nThanks for clearing that up, the sky IS falling.",
"\"not what you imagined I wrote.\"\n\n",
"Assuming an ex high ranking KKK member can suddenly become reformed is adorably naive and makes me wonder why you support those kinds of people. How many other actual racists do you support? ",
"Please burst my bubble and bring up all the recent reports of unclean drinking water in liberal cities. ",
"Because it's a US website, a big sub, and politics is a big thing right now. Or you know it's a conspiracy!!!!! Because everything is a conspiracy when you don't value evidence!!!",
"Gold fail. ",
"off course she can ",
"I like how you started off strong with the facts. Then you got off track by claiming his motivations and \"racist tendencies\". Lol how would you even know? This is pure speculation on your part which is fine. You just need to let everyone know you have no concrete proof besides your intuition, which we have no sure way to gauge. Maybe don't waste other people's time with your fringe theories. Just go to those national enquirer, BuzzFeed or cnn. They'll let you remain anonymous. I'm bowing out of this discussion as it seems you have no evidence just your feelings which I know it's unfortunate but they have no effect on reality. ",
"Ultimate Emoji Fighter😉",
">how doesn't that bother you. \n\nI'm sure it's similar to the way a person like yourself can look at the tax plan, a plan that benefits not only most workers in the US, but the poorest amongst us. The Working Poor. \n\nYou know damn well that this tax plan is an amazing Boon to the Working Poor, but because corporations get something like a 4% tax break? And after all it is super trendy to hate on the president! Yon NEED to feel included. You NEED to be part of this autistic \"Resist\" bullshit that retards like lolMadonna won't shut up about. It doesn't matter how much the already robust economy improves the lives of the poor/working poor. Your BS kind will still find SOMETHING to screech SYSTEMIC RACISM or INEQUALITY at. \n\nAm I getting warm?",
"❤❤❤",
"t(\"ot)",
"Proving my point right here. Not a trump worshipper, I'm an individual. Chances are we disagree on some things but probably agree on more than you think, you would know that if you didn't just attack me without knowing anything about me. This is exactly why politics suck now. You say the adults are talking but you aren't acting like one",
"im glad this is reposted w.e guys .. my mom is paralyzed where can i get this for her",
"This could apply to Northern Ireland too!",
"Gallup over samples democrats. Rasmussen was also the most accurate pollster during the election.\n\nTrump's numbers would be much higher if the msm didn't report 90% dishonest and negative coverage of him. ",
"at least the government can stand for the flag",
"It’s the Democrats fault, they’re leaving the kids without healthcare!!!!!\n\n/s",
"Maybe fucking do something about it instead of making idiotic posts on reddit",
"Yeah, but repubs are the main cry babies. All in all most politicians suck on both sides. ",
"Or grow up and learn to communicate with people who wildly contradict you. Forcing people to disassociate from their beliefs to even speak with them is absurd, childish and frankly embarrassing. ",
"Thanks for proving my point. I hope y'all are paid commenters; it really hurts to think people are being this ignorant on their own accord.",
"How's Russia rn? Cold?",
"https://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdp_large.png\n\nwhat am i missing\n\nedit: https://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdp_glance.htm",
"My god that is adorable ",
"Last I checked the republicans have the whitehouse and majority in the house and senate. How is this because of Democrats? ",
"It is nice. Chuck Schumer is a snake. ",
"Nice username. I wonder which way you lean. ",
"Yeah! Both not at all! Currently.",
"But she's the one acknowledging her disability. ",
"no is arm",
"do you truely believe a racist can never reform or are you that dedicated to smearing anything and anyone related to Hillary? \n\nEither way, very sad. ",
"Piss off ",
"Huh? ",
"Yup. Nice cheap trolling ✌️",
"And put zero shampoo in your hair ",
"Wow I would hate to live a life anything like yours. You sound like a wretched human. ",
"Last I checked it took 60 votes to pass CR and there are only 51 Republicans.\n\nIts amazing how little you guys know about our government. ",
"But first let me get a lil' high ",
"she runs better than democrats\n",
"Yeah seems like a distinction without a difference to me. They are all whiners that should get real jobs.",
">Trump ain't winning in 2020. \n\nYou liberal nutjobs might want to shy away from making predictions at this point. \n\nJesus, it's like you people have the memory of a goldfish.",
"http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-daca-reax-20180114-story.html\n\nIt's called 'racial animus'.\n\nTrump's racism has been proven, no matter how many times you upvote the_donald posts.",
"She, not her.",
"I think I would never try to defend an ex high ranking KKK member. Literally never type hillary's name even once before this post",
"No, no we don’t.",
"Wmit wont affect anything automatically. I got my last paycheck too. Wait until the first of feb and see if you get your check, or the 15th. Its nothing now, but eventually your payment will stop.",
"Ice cold, dude. What is lolMadonna? What is \"Resist\"? I just think that Trump is acting more in his own interests than he is acting in the American People's. AT&T may have given everybody some money, but believe it or not, not everybody works for AT&T. The tax plan could have done better, and if Trump had a net worth of 600k instead of 4 billion, then maybe he would've helped me, and not his personal friends.",
"Well what I’m getting at is that disabled people can make fun of themselves to make light of their own situation. I tend to find that people with disabilities that can’t do that tend to be much more depressed.",
"It’s funny until the next Depression ",
"Shoutout to simple flips",
"of course she can ran better ",
"r/libertarian",
"This reminds me of Resetti from Animal Crossing.",
"I'm definitely excited to vote for him again in 2020 as well.",
"You knew exactly what I meant you're just being pedantic. Go troll somewhere else",
"Why?\nThey dont have any control..",
"You're pathetic ",
">what am i missing\n\nThe misleading way the chart displays data\n\nhttp://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/170105184946-03-obama-economy-gdp-640x640.jpg",
"If the government system doesn't work because the people \"break it,\" it's not a very good system. Maybe *government is the problem*?",
">Cheap trolling\n\n??? \n\nSchumer said those things. It's a fact that he did. ",
"> I like how you started off strong with the facts.\n\nAre you aware you just paid a compliment to something cut and pasted from Snopes?\n\nThe same website your side calls fake news all the time.\n\nBetter delete your comment before you get bannned from conservative subs for complimenting Snopes.com ",
"Timmy!!!",
"> Maybe fucking do something about it instead of making idiotic posts on ~~reddit~~ Twitter\n\nFTFY\n\nAlso, what exactly would you like me to do? Run for Pres? 2048 hopefully.",
"Like how this is controversial.",
"I'm also the guy who said that this photo was dumb, and who you agreed with. I think this post is dumb, and that you're dumb. Who would be paying me to say this? When you start thinking that everyone is part of a conspiracy, it might be time to see a psychiatrist",
"Thank you for enhancing my vocabulary.\nSaccharine: excessively sweet or sentimental",
"Your absolute lies are getting sadder and sadder. I'm killfiling you out of sheer pity",
"You are a real asshole.",
"Ah, progress.",
"They support all of those things.",
"There's a petition to make politicians forfeit their pay until the troops get paid and the government is back running. \n\nhttps://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/378/739/112/",
"He makes the best deals! Trust him! Believe him!",
"Yeah bro, this ain't my first rodeo. Were you not around for the 2013 shutdown? It was a minor annoyance that everyone panicked about, just like right now, forgive me if I'm skeptical. ",
"Trump is dealing with International Affairs, such as Israel, and North Korea, before grasping anything on the Domestic, and calming down his people. \n\nAmerica is still screaming for a wall, asking about health insurance, and our government just shut down, because he doesn't know how to deal with immigration, without pissing off nearly 100% of the Democrats. ",
"That’s preposterous. ",
"nice shirt you ableist bitch ^/s",
"And yet you insult me because we disagree. That's GREAT communication skills.",
"You do realize Obama extended the Bush era tax cuts when they were about to expire? It's almost the exact same situation. ",
"I think it’s called hyperbole. ",
"That a trap??",
"Win!😁",
"Of course they brought peace, that goes without saying!",
"Oh yea. That’s makes sense. It’s the Democrats fault they wouldn’t just pass a CR. It’s not because it was garbage and rushed with not much thought. If I remember correct, a few republicans voted against it as well. It’s the damn libtard cucks tho amirite?",
"Literally, where did I equate her disability with a perceived mental disorder. I'd be happy to edit if I said something truly offensive. But rereading my comment I don't see it.",
"Are you saying this isn't a free-for-all Mad Max kinda thing? They can still take me to jail?! I have made so many mistakes.",
"You rule!",
"Political humor was created and is run by the same mods as about 10 other democrat subs. It is not a neutral humor sub. Just making sure people know this, even though it's apparent from the content.",
"No. They are just edgy 14 year olds, they aren’t actually raping people or whatever. Stop giving them attention",
"I don't know but complaining on reddit sure as hell won't fix anything.",
"Holy shit it’s delusional",
">It’s incredibly unlikely that you can count on another president fixing this\n\nFixing what?",
"It is their fault. They tried to push daca amnesty through in a completely unrelated budget bill.\n\nIt takes 60 votes to pass CR. Republicans only have 51.",
"No it isn't holy shit. It's literally *written into the tax plan* that the income tax cuts go away, and the corporate tax cuts stay. It has nothing to do with expiration. It is written into the fucking book dude.",
"Putting companies before people?",
"I was there, and if its back up and running within a week or two then great, but if it does become a little longer than we expected, i wouldnt be expecting a paycheck anytime soon.",
"I’d vote for you, if for no other reasons than you seem nicer than the bloated toads usually put up for election, and you’re cute too...",
"she will ran better ",
"she will ran better ",
"Nooooo! Why?!",
"Here's five ways Bernie can still win!\n\nHere's how Hillary can still be made president!\n\nHere's how Trump won't win 2020!",
">The Republicans want to take away benefits for kids and Dreamers. \n\nIt's hilarious that people like you can without batting an eye, make statements like that comparing U.S. veterans to illegal aliens. As if they're even remotely on the same plane. \n\nYou people are fucking astounding!",
"Lies? Love when people pity me for not supporting ex KKK members",
"(He didn’t actually mention the dems.)",
"Wrong. He's a teapot and that's his handle.",
"Uh, I don't think you noticed, but republicans have a majority in the house and the senate and hold the white house. ",
"In 2016 blatant lies were better tolerated than they are now.\n\nRepublican party culture is responsible for the shut down, as they've been the party of \"my way or the highway\" since Obama's first term. Now that they control every single branch of the government, they thought that policy would be effective. But instead they need to learn how to actually govern.",
"Must be high on my larger paychecks!",
"Sorry to break it to you but i don't think you can run at all, which will put you on the same speed as the government.",
"‘Mail run on time.’ I’m not sure what you mean there bud.",
"It's not a half and half deal. This was Trump's decision with a Republican majority in all branches of the government. If it were a true 50/50, this post wouldn't have an overwhelming amount of up votes - it'd be closer to zero. Reddit is the sixth most popular website globally, so if you think it's a liberal hub or remotely close then it may be time to reconsider. This was the Republicans' underhanded decision that is impacting everyone in the US, cut and dry. ",
"LOL low blow. Kinda sad it may actually be true.",
"Back to my original point, political theater. But if you like to worry feel free.",
"Why is this the parents? She looks to be in her twenties at a minimum- can she not buy her own shirt?",
"Run better than most governments in the world ",
"Is this from club peguin",
"If only it were free 😞",
"There are no guaranteed holidays now .. unless you’re in the government.\n\nLifespans and curing disease are attributed to science/medicine. Not government. \n\nDon’t send your kids to work. ",
"Because money is all that matters to the right. You’re literally the scum of the planet and everyone is laughing at you.",
"To give a serious answer, most Reddit users don't really care about if content fits the sub, especially in the most default of the default subs like pics and funny. So they'll upvote things they like, despite it possibly not fitting with the rest of its content. It's the reason Game of Thrones memes had to relegated to its own subreddit.\n\nSo in the case of this post, it may not be a well-taken picture, but it supports the political views of a lot of people on this site. And to them, since it's a picture, it fits in r/pics. And, despite the popularity of certain subs, a majority of Reddit is liberal. Hence why protest signs (from past and present protests) are getting popular, because they're currently in the public consciousness.",
"I wont be worried until it does get to that point (which it could). Youre deflecting it using political theater, however anything could happen.",
"We’re vampires, we don’t put down *towels*",
"Right-o\n\nCare to explain how to filter it out?Or link me the supposed pinned post.",
"“Well, if you say who gets fired it always has to be the top. I mean, problems start from the top and they have to get solved from the top and the president's the leader. And he's got to get everybody in a room and he's got to lead.” -ya boi DT",
"r/dollylittle",
"Well, she can't even stand up, so I doubt it.",
"They shouldn’t get paid with the govt shutdown. Just like millions of other govt employees. Bullshit. ",
"You base that statement on the fact that republicans hold the majority in the house and the senate and control the white house? Duh ",
"How did you syllabic's up on in here?",
"If you're going hungry in this country, you are just plain stupid. I could eat for a week on $20.",
"It's treason, then.",
"What am I deflecting, exactly? Do you have a point to make or do you just want to argue?\n\nThis shutdown is posturing that means nothing, just like the 18 previous shutdowns. If you disagree, good for you, maybe the sky is falling.",
"That doesn't mean people are going to be comfortable with it. You can't force people to laugh or feel comfortable in a situation they've never experienced.",
"Duh, the infamous hacker, best freinds with that guy called 'Anonymous'",
"Uh, yea, let's go with that. My uncle works as an engineer for the government. He gets all this time off while getting paid. Everyone complains about paying too much in taxes, but how does it feel to have your tax money wasted to pay these politicians and government workers their same pay for literally doing nothing? Hell, he came out with an accrued extra vacation day after the last shut down. ",
"Idk if that applies to obvious comebacks/insults.",
"The government pays for you",
"I insulted your decision to block out an entire population of people just because they voted for Trump. I don’t know anything about you as a person and I am clearly not making any comments on your character. \n\nRegardless, your entire thread of comments seems to directly insult Trump or his supporters so I imagine you’re beginning to see the holes in your already pretty weak points. ",
"Reddit is *definitely* a liberal hub. The people who use reddit are overwhelmingly young, and therefore more likely to be left-leaning. ",
"thinking differently like Nazi's?\n\nso you think its ok to think differently and be a nazi and attempt genocide?\n\nit is not always ok to \"think differently\"",
"#ThanksForAllTheFish\n\n[So Long and](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=So%20long%2C%20and%20thanks%20for%20all%20the%20fish) ",
"Damn........",
"Hahaha do you get it? Shes a cripple! Hahaha",
"She does. The US government is a piece of shit atm.",
"One can usually get a good Gin and Tonic, or perhaps a jynnan tonyx. ",
"Lol that's meaningless. Trump has nothing to do with this. He doesn't vote on these things. \n\nActions speak louder than words. The democrats shutdown the government in favor of illegal immigrants and said FU to Americans, children affected by CHIN and the military.\n\nThey lost the midterms. ",
"That's actually what I was referring to. (dems rapidly expanding government programs) I'm guessing BionicCuck over here didn't vote for his current Commander In Chief.",
"The government goes down hill better than she can",
"Its 2018, and republicans hold a majority in both the house and senate and hold the Whitehouse, making your statement bullshit! Lol",
"How'd you get the beans above the Frank?",
"You basically classed me as a racist with a single reply that doesn't involve race at all, and YOU'RE the one talking about mental gymnastic?\n\nLike I said, stay away from politics. ",
"\"No u\"",
"Yeah, I went out today and all traffic lights were out. There were postal vehicles just abandoned by the road side. Speaking of roads, there were these huge cracks in them and I saw several bridges that had collapsed. I went to a near by military base and it was deserted, I just drove off in a tank.\n\nYeah, it was awesome.",
"The Bush era tax cuts were implemented in 2003, and were set to sunset in 2010. Obama gave them a two year extension, and then were made permanent for most individuals in the 2012 American Taxpayer relief act. That is basically the exact same situation as the Trump tax breaks, the individual income tax cuts are not set to run indefinitely, they need to either be renewed or made permanent if they have proved they promote economic growth. Stop acting like a child. Do you not get that the tax code for Business's needs to be more stable because they have long-term investments to think about? If you want the tax cuts for individuals to be permanent, how about you either elect a Republican who will support them when they are about to expire, or tell Democrats to support the tax breaks. Don't act like a child who thinks just because something isn't perfect we can't try it.",
"Libtard",
"the democrats forced this shutdown because they care more about the 700,000 illegals than actual U.S. citizens. Schumer wants to keep the government shut down until they finish negotiating on the subject of illegal immigration. ",
"*roll",
"In the wrong direction.",
"> Non-graphics these days are getting crazy.\n\nftfy",
"You have proven yourself to be incorrect time and again. Killfiled.",
"Not wrong. These idiot Dems want illegals over their own people, ugh. ",
"> Assassinate some of these fucks! \n\nNo, let's not.",
"TIL being self-reliant and believing in limiting the scope of Gov't = being disabled. Guess I'll vote republicrat or democran so we can raise the debt ceiling some more and kill more kids with drones in the middle east.",
"Money isn’t all that matters to me. But money is what makes a country run. It’s what makes one successful so we don’t become Haiti.\n\nWhen you say something like that, you sound like someone who has never worked for a living.",
"She looks like chloe price",
"it's the damn BEA chart, how the hell is it misleading? You said that at no point in the Obama presidency did the GDP grow at a rate anywhere close to how it grew in Trump's first year. That was a false statement.\n\nIf you look at annual growth instead of quarterly growth, then yes, Trump's first year was higher than Obama's best year by 0.3%.\n\nSo, what's the takeaway there?",
"Whoa, one man's trash is another man's treasure. Don't talk about trash like that.",
"Makes me wonder how much one of these girls costs. ",
"Yo those are some awesome pants. Where can I get some?",
"Perhaps you've never taken the time to scroll through your comment history. I did and 2 things become immediately apparently: you're a racist and an idiot. ",
"Some U.S. Veterans ARE illegal aliens. \n\nWhat are you thoughts on that? \n\nAlso I made no such statement in the relevant comment. \n\nAmerica needs to fight for veterans AND Dreamers. ",
"Fuck you, she's cute. ",
"Is this alternate universe Chloe?",
"She's legal now",
"Not proud of it but my first thought was \"finally a girl I could get\"",
"I love how people just WANT to panic, and here you are, someone \"affected\" by this, telling them everything is fine.\n\nAnd that creates cognitive dissonance, so they screech at you.",
"I'm pretty sure there was a bipartisan bill with enough votes to pass that Trump turned down. So how is that not on Trump?",
"No it doesn't, in fact, trickle down has been proven not to work. If you give money to rich people, they just put it in a bank. If you give it to corporations, they give bonuses to their boards and administrations. It does nothing to create jobs or stimulate the economy.\nThe fake raises vs the trillion dollar deficit those lower brackets are going to have to pay off is going to cause a near depression era.",
"**O O F**",
"Can you read? ",
">So, what's the takeaway there?\n\nStill that the economy is no longer stagnant the way it was under Obama... \n\n",
"So this is how reddit falls, not with 9 gag and hate subs but with ironic and meta memes.",
"jfc... ",
"Well I filter out the word politics, but administration and their flairs fuck that up. ",
"Shutdown til 2020",
"Did you thank the democrats for that?",
"Why do people think this even matters? This country has been so radicalized you could set a bomb under Congress and half the country would cheer.",
"Ha, well said, that pretty much sums it up. The last 18 shutdowns were resolved without triggering the apocalypse, BUT THIS ONE WILL BE DIFFERENT!\n\nEverybody panic!",
"Rip haha.",
"Do I seriously have to explain that Democrats don't care more about illegal aliens than American citizens?\n\n\nThe parameters of the debate are loony.\n\n",
"No matter how many likes this comment gets, it’s underrated. That was just plain amazing!!!! Haha",
"She can't escape you.",
"But /r/politicalhumor wants *more* government ",
"> A lot of legislation can pass before March.\n\nWhat are you basing that on? The great infrastructure bill that Republicans passed as promised? Or how about the great healthcare bill that Republicans have been working on for 8 years?\n\nMarch is now. \n\n>Trump will sign s DACA extension if it is put on his desk. No such extension has been passed by Congress.\n\nTrump turned down Graham and Durbin's bipartisan deal to extend DACA (and implement Republican priorities as well). That was the \"shithole\" meeting. So, you're incorrect here. Trump has had every opportunity to stay true to his word, but he's decided that we need a \"good shutdown\" instead.\n\n>Republicans have done NOTHING to affect CHIP.\n\nThey've had months to renew funding for CHIP and have refused to do so. Doing nothing is right. \n\nYou're being rude, and being rude about being wrong, which is the worst way to do it. ",
"hahaha this is the stereotypical fatass ugly american that the entire EU laughs about.",
"(👁👄👁)",
"I get fresh air every day, thanks though.\n\nHow about you stop defending shitty people, stop supporting people who enjoy having sex with toddlers, that is unless you enjoy sticking your cock inside under age boys? \n\nIs that why you are defending them? You want pedophilia to become acceptable so you don't have to hide in shadows any more?\n\n\nHow many under age children have you raped so far CGRCC?",
"You know, I find this hard to believe. ",
"Best. Thing. Ever.",
"Rock on, friend.",
"Yeah but seeing people circle jerk each other off like every subreddit is their political echo chamber gets old after a while. ",
"Do you even know how congress works? Having a simple majority in the Senate does not matter when it takes 60% (well above what republicans have) to break a filibuster. Also the white house has literally nothing to do with passing budgets. That is Congress' job. They have \"power of the purse.\"\n\nI suggest you go back to high school government and actually pay attention.\n\nAlso democrats straight up took credit for the shutdown. They even had a huge dinner at a DC resturaunt to celebrate.\n\nMeanwhile I'm out of work because NASA shut down. As are a couple million government employees (many of whom are forced to work with no pay through the shut down)\n\n\\*edit* Based on your reply, confirmed. You know fuck all about how the government works.",
"The Donald safe space boys come to vote here when it reaches frontpage.",
"#I DO WHAT I WANT",
"According to your name most of american peoples are nazis",
"When did this sub turn into a politic fuck fest?",
"😂 ",
"ok ok, I'm a nazi-kkk member if you want (even though i'm an ex-muslim, but whatever), it doesn't change the fact that the immature and useless trump bashing you're doing on reddit is a proof you should stay away from politics.",
"Club crackers are for senior homes and church communions. \n\nif you try a flipside with pepperoni and cheese on it you may literally orgasm on the spot. ",
"And no citizen has ever had to make a long term investment before? Your argument makes no sense.",
"https://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-americans-support-daca-but-oppose-border-wall-cbs-news-poll/\n\n>Nearly nine in 10 Americans (87 percent) favor allowing young immigrants who entered the U.S. illegally as children to remain in the U.S. – a policy known as the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. This is a view that spans partisan lines. \n\nIt's 79% for Republicans btw. Republicans in D.C. are once again spitting in the face of their own voters and politically making up for it by demonizing Democrats based on nonsense - just dragging everyone down. ",
"The picture must also be taken at midnight, during the 6th day of the 6th month during a lunar eclipse with candles surrounding the camera.",
"If you do want the shutdown to last till 2020 then a government employee doesn’t get money, the country loses money, national parks close, passports could not be registered, the national mall in DC, but the good news is the military is paid until February 1 but the silver lining is the USPS will still deliver mail. ",
"Almost like the younger folk to come to power is more practical when the old folks croak. It's clear what way the upcoming generations are headed. ",
"Reddit is turning into a meme. Cracked.com went full politics and rightfully tanked.",
"Didn't Trump turn down a bypartisan bill?",
"actually, my taxes are going up and my stocks went down, but I do have a job. However, I had that job before he was elected. ",
"Looks like you were wrong.",
"Really positive spin",
"I am fully aware.",
"Poor people can still buy health insurance.",
"Democrats stopped this budget from going through. Nice try tho.",
"r/dankmemes",
"Prove it",
"amazing ",
"You'd know that's incorrect if you took a basic civics class in high school. It's called a pocket veto. It's so funny when people act superior while simultaneously spreading incorrect information.",
"It does actually work well when the initial comment is outright lying.",
"What financial legislation was passed in 2017?",
"So did Trump ✌️",
"That’s awfully rude. Maybe when you’re old enough to vote you can make a change!",
"Not if the Republican plans are implemented. \n\n",
"> The house passed a bill extending CHIP back in November. \n\n... while damaging Americans' access to healthcare with cuts to Medicare and the ACA. If they wanted to pass CHIP, they could pass CHIP, but instead they'd rather play games with people's healthcare as always. \n\n>Without border security and immigration reform, it would be foolhardy to pass any amnesty or else we will find ourselves in this exact same predicament in 20 years' time.\n\nDems have been offering border security. Schumer even offered funding for the wall. Trump just refused to take any deal because he wants the shutdown so he can have more twitter fuel for his next rampage. He doesn't care about actually getting border security, or about DACA, since he turned them both down. ",
"The guy you're replying to is all over this thread throwing out \"facts\" that are completely wrong. He has no clue what he's talking about.",
"Wish we could upvote this enough so it’s the first image upon googling US Government.",
"https://www.walmart.com/ip/Rico-Medium-Grain-Rice-20-lbs/45791847",
"That's the joke ",
"For the lazy: op is lazy",
"What government financial policies passed in 2017?",
"Set the bar low enough, you can just can roll right over it. MAGA.",
"> It is silly to blame either side exclusively. Both sides could have avoided this by giving in to the other's desires, but both were unwilling to do so.\n\nJust like it's silly to blame a hostage taker for killing a hostage. The police should've just given him what he wanted!\n\nThis is an overly simplistic view of the situation. You have to dig a little deeper and see who's actually being reasonable and unreasonable here. ",
"Triggered. ",
"Ok, but would it be a diet that's anywhere near healthy? Nothing wrong with rice, but 20 bucks is low.",
"Yeah, this post is being brigaded so hard. Tons of the same comments about \"this is a repost\", \"this sub is garbage\", \"this is about obama\", \"why is politics on this sub\", etc. Lol. Giant echo chamber.",
"Goalposts then: |-|\n\nGoalposts now: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |-|",
"Wow I would hate to live a life like a fumbling retard like you. You sound like a republican who has sex with fresh corpses.",
"Just stop. You're repeating a line that makes no fucking sense just because you don't like Trump. At least try to hide your bias.\n\nHere's the real non partisan answer. The stock market performance has very little to do with either president. It's gains over the past year are due to international markets propping it up. Europe and Japan's markets had phenomenal years and we just lucked out that our major corporations were ready for a globalization push at the same time. The majority of the revenue of the S&P 500 over the past year has been from international sources. \n\nYeah, it doesn't have much to do with Trump but it has even fucking less to do with Obama. Stop talking about things you have no idea about just because it's a chance for you to bash Trump and glorify Obama.",
"Ramen is like $0.29.",
"We'll see wal-mart have actually upped their wages cos of it though ",
"Didn't Trump refuse to sign a bipartisan bill? How is this the Democrats fault?",
"God this picture is older than LAST administration. ",
"yes",
"no",
"If you don't realize the difference between corporate/business investment and personal investment I'm sorry I can't help you. First of all, investments by individuals are not taxed the same way as income is depending on how it is invested. \n\nAlso, people who are doing long-term investment, not in the form of a business, have enough money to lower their tax burden no matter the tax code. Also, long term investments by individuals can be done through LLC's or charities which would be subject to corporate tax code, not the individual tax code. But hey, I'm sure you knew all that already.",
"This pic was hilarious 5 years ago...",
"why she would ran it ",
"You’re right, his golf game has totally improved since he became president. Never has a president worked so hard to accomplish as little as possible!",
"delete this",
"She does run better than the current german government ",
"Policy takes time to see results. If that doesn't make sense to you, I don't think anything does.",
"Bruh this picture's so old the girl is probably dead already.",
"Heh",
": /\n\nboth looks pretty much useless at running to me\n\n\nEdit: thought this was /roastme :(",
"At her age she should really be walking. Lazy liberals.. They blame the government for everything. ",
"Is complaining about other people complaining seeming to help at all? I'm willing to try anything at this point.",
"Moooooooooom!\n\nhe started it!",
"When you spend your days blocking government hallways while pissing in a bag ",
"No you don't ",
"I made r/pic because of posts like this!",
"> 1. Supreme Court is non-partisan despite being appointed and confirmed by both parties.\n\nAbsolutely false. [Supreme Court justices have political leanings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideological_leanings_of_U.S._Supreme_Court_justices). Why do you think the Republicans blocked Obama's appointment of Merrick Garland?",
"Savage",
" even if we pretend markets can do none of those things... it's rather telling that what people jump to praise government for is but a fraction of its budget. \n\nIt's almost like people complaining point out how +90% of its budget is either wasted entirely or the programs it funds are slow and could work much better/faster/efficiently... yet you show up and point to 1-5% of the budget screaming look how wrong the complainers are lol ",
"Paid with what?",
"Bitch no you don’t ",
"So it's been 5 years... Can she get it or no?",
"Yet when the Dems tried to protect military pay and benefits, the Republicans declined to do so. Don't change the narrative. The Democrats want to help people and the Republicans are only interested in getting their way.",
"[Anime Increases]",
"Trump said the things Schumer said? ",
"None of what you just said explains why they couldn't just make the income tax cut permanent as well.\n\nAlso:\n>people who are doing long-term investment, not in the form of a business, have enough money to lower their tax burden no matter the tax code\n\nWhat does that even mean? Only rich people make investments? Oh yeah, I forgot that only people who make $350k annually are allowed to buy government bonds and houses, my bad",
"That's not untrue... why do I feel really sad now?",
"Lmao what the hell has changed for the consumer in the past year? When the rate has been increasing at roughly the same pace for the past several years what makes it “no longer stagnant?”\n\nJust because trump talks about how it’s no longer stagnant doesn’t mean anything has actually changed. ",
"Coolest monkey in the jungle",
"Democrats make us cripples ",
"Don’t forget to bring a towel!",
"You don't even know how Congress works. You're proving his point.\n\nRepublicans have 51% in Senate. Really less since McCain is out.\n\nYou need 60% to break a filibuster.\n\nHell democrats even took credit for the shutdown. They even went out to celebrate this weekend at a resturaunt in DC. All the hardcore Democrat activists I know were cheering for a shut down. 95% of republicans voted to keep it open and 95% of democrats voted to shut it down.\n\nAlso control of white house means nothing. Congress has \"power of the purse\". They solely are responsible for passing the budget. I mean ffs that's high school government class level knowledge.",
"I need that shirt",
"They bring this out every govt shutdown?",
"But can it spew political opinions upon others with a picture on a subreddit that has nothing to do with politics? No! Takes a special kind of person to do that.",
"I believe he meant the US government.",
"... except neither was being held hostage. I suppose you could make the argument that the Republicans were, since that is the language typically used when the minority party refuses to vote for something, but it is a huge stretch. Both sides have bargaining power, and both are refusing to give it up.\n\nAnd of course, the people you see as \"reasonable\" will be your own party. That is how everyone is. That is my point.",
"What else can you do? Rant about it online to the echo chamber? It's clear the government doesn't listen to the people just based on net neutrality. A little bit of hope is all we can do. ",
"/r/bannedfromclubpenguin",
"Yeah, because of KKK Democrat and Hillary Bestie Robert Byrd. His provision keeps the tax cuts limited to 10 years, but don't worry because based Rand Paul has introduced legislation to make the cuts permanent. ",
"That’s a word I don’t hear often, even though I’m around violent people all the time!",
"I meant that military soldiers and officers don’t get paid until February 1. But after that date then these people would have to fight for FREE until this shut down ends.",
"This was posted when Obama was President so I approve of this and it's very accurate!",
"So you're just going to roll over onto your back because one fucking bill was passed? Good to know that America is great again",
">When you elect people from a party that loves government and works to weaken its people, then sure.\n\nFTFY",
"Sooooo.... she didn't pay for those braces or the wheelchair with Medicaid, has not been on Medicare all her life and will not depend on social security in the future, did not fund the medical university that did the research to keep her dumb ass alive or treat her condition or any of a host of other ways she has benefited from the government.",
"Paging Dr. Nassar for a check-up!",
"Well that is much better.\n\nBut it's kinda just like r/sfwpornnetwork/wiki/network",
"She doesn’t though and she never will ",
"I would watch a full-length movie based on this comment. I don't know how the fuck the movie would play out, but I'd watch it.",
"Guys, she's just in a wheelchair. She's not dead",
"So they tried to protect military pay by voting for illegal immigrants instead? ",
"But it IS a shut down. That's not really disputed. I don't see what opinion one could hold that would find this anything but funny. Which side of the fence would be angry about this picture? ",
"Many regulations were cut. But obviously legislation isn't the entire picture. The market also largely operates on optimism.",
"That's not the point of this sub at all. It's just pictures and photographs. Read the sidebar.",
"actually 70 years of proof. you dont got it.\n\nagain not surprised, common theme with trump cock suckers is they all have learning disabilities combined with severe insecurities.\n\nbtw is 10RC your sexual preference? 10 year old random children.",
"please dont ever come back",
"> When the rate has been increasing at roughly the same pace for the past several years\n\nIt hasn't ",
"Stevie Wonder could see that this is a very funny pic.",
"bahahahahahahaha",
"Lmao let’s just guard the entire coast with high watch posts and binoculars. Why would we need boats or helicopters or guns or radar? We can use good ol zoom vision. \n\nTell me, are you trolling or just really that fucking delusional?",
"Thank you for making my day. ",
"This is a fat mood",
"i dont want any credibility with those who want to strip rights away from citizens based upon characteristics they can not control. only white nationalists (which is what the nazis were) have any credibility with people like that",
"It's not like they don't get backpay. It still sucks ass, but math_kitty has a point in that, it's not like the people overseas really need to use their money over there. ",
"None of what you've said has made a case for it being made permanent. The case for the tax cuts not being permanent is because many would argue they need to prove they proved economic growth to warrant the reduction in cash flow into the Fed. The reason corporate tax rate doesn't need to prove that is because it's been proven in every other Western Nation in the world. We had the HIGHEST corporate tax rate in the world, and that stifled investment. The data and evidence is all there to prove that low corporate tax helps economic growth. Denmark does it, most of Scandinavia has a low tax rate for corporations, Ireland is another example. Luxembourg is another. That is why the tax breaks are permanent, because they will help America and Americans. The evidence for a lower tax for individuals is less clear, mostly because Europe has such a high individual tax code which doesn't support the idea.\n\nSo wait, you're telling me the average person in America has cash laying around to buy bonds Willy Nilly? I thought the majority of America was living paycheck to paycheck. You don't get to have it both ways. Yes rich people provide the majority of investment, the other major investment is done through retirement funds which again aren't taxed the same as income.\n\nWould you like to have an honest discussion, or just live in a fantasy land where the big bad Republicans are EVILLLLLLLLL? ",
"What has happened to the consumer?\n\nEssentially nothing, as it always does. In the grand scheme of things, very few peoples lives are changed by most politics or even economics, with the exception of extremely major changes (I.e. crashes, historical laws)\n\nWeather or not the economy is good or bad, or what party controls the government, the average persons life is still the same.",
"bahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ",
"Yeah, first one is strangely more accurate though",
"'stagnant'. Not sure that's the right word to use. 2.0-2.5% growth is perfectly healthy for a developed country. The goal is making sure the average person feels that growth. Also, market factors are usually much more involved in GDP growth than policy.",
"This made me laugh for 5 minutes.",
"So illegal immigrants > actual US citizens. \n\nThanks for proving the republicans right I guess. The left actually doesn't give a shit about the US or it's citizens. ",
"She's not even American",
"This is my best friend. We live in the UK. She is possibly the kindest person on earth despite her serious condition and she is very grateful for the NHS care she receives. This picture was taken as a joke the first time she went to vote in the UK elections.",
"Linguists are going to puzzle about that one for years over *Ouiskeyansodas*",
"My mail comes every single day, except sundays and holidays, at 3pm. Regardless of weather, regardless of how much mail I have, but UPS delivers to me by their promised date about 60% of the time, for a shitload higher cost. ",
"I can't WAIT to see Trump's tweet about this one.",
"> it *functions properly* again\n\n It will never function properly so it is very likely.\n\n\n Why is my text broken.",
"I just don't get why you're arguing for people who will never and have never fought for you.\n\nI'm also going to stop replying since you're now arguing for trickle-down economics, which just proves you're parroting whatever Fox tells you to. Go watch some Info Wars and leave me alone",
"Probably because the tax cut only benefits anyone in the middle and lower classes immediately but is going to fuck them over like 5 or 6 years",
"Don't you people ever get bored recycling the same lame jokes over and over?",
"Most legit thing I have seen all day....",
"Quick its a disabled person, upvote it so I can feel like I'm contributing positively to their situation!",
"Why do I feel like I'm witnessing the beginning of a copy pasta if it isn't already?\n\nEdit: a word ",
"Government employee here. Can confirm. ",
">Did it ever occur to you that *maybe* the political party that cheerleads a smaller government isn't on the level and negotiating in good faith?\n\nYes. But, as a libertarian, it's nice to see the democrats getting a taste of their own medicine.\n\n>DACA and CHIP have overwhelming support...\n\nNo they don't. You need look no further than Trump's election. Get out of your liberal echo chamber from time to time.\n\n>We're getting trolled and some of us are so unaware they are actually falling for it. \n\nEntertaining isn't it?",
"> Try not to act like an indignant cunt and let us know what other issues were so contentious that they refused to compromise\n\nYou make this too easy.",
"Why has every sub become so political?",
"Towely, you're the worst character ever",
"She's British. This is not about the American government. ",
"Well, i’d say it’s about equal considering neither are running at all.... moving however ;)",
"Something funny? ",
"She runs better than my car",
"Call your democratic Congressmen and Senators and tell them to make it permanent.",
"Typical response.\n\nWhy are you so upset that America lowered the corporate tax rate? \n\nAren't you one of those liberal Redditors who praise those great nations like Sweden, Denmark, Germany, and other Socialist European nations? Don't you know that they're economic model is built upon low corporate tax rates coupled with high individual tax rates? Shouldn't you be happy American is matching Europe?\n\nOh right, you're just going to run away and act like I'm some conspiracy theorists.\n\nHere's a hint, no one on the right believes in trickle down economics, that's a strawman built by Democrats. We believe in supply side economics, which you should go research. It's a solid economic platform. If you google trickle down economics, you will only get articles slamming it as a sham. But Google supply side economics, and there will be evidence both in favor and against it because it is not a strawman made to be defeated.",
":0",
"The average was 1.8% over 8 years. The lowest since the depression. Stagnant. ",
"Because hair can't type",
"She's not wrong.",
"And with this last political post, another sub is off my feed. ",
">racism\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_jogger_case#Accusations_by_Donald_Trump\n\n>In 1989, Trump took out ads in New York newspapers urging the death penalty for five black and Latino teenagers accused of raping a white woman in Central Park; he argued they were guilty as late as October 2016, more than 10 years after DNA evidence had exonerated them.\n\nHave you noticed the only illegals trump seems to care about have dark skin? Most of the illegal immigrants in the united states have overstayed their visas and made it to the states via plane. We're not stopping air traffic but we're really considering slamming down a few tens of billions of dollars on a wall. \n\n>bigotry\n\nI shouldn't have to link anything for this one. How he treats people from lesser countries should be enough\n\n>pedophilia\n\n>>[In 1994, Trump went to a party with Jeffrey Epstein, a billionaire who was a notorious registered sex offender, and raped a 13-year-old girl that night in what was a \"savage sexual attack,\" according to a lawsuit filed in June 2016 by \"Jane Doe.\" The account was corroborated by a witness in the suit, who claimed to have watched as the child performed various sexual acts on Trump and Epstein even after the two were advised she was a minor.](http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-rape-sexual-assault-minor-wife-business-victims-roy-moore-713531)\n\n\n>high treason\n\nhttps://imgur.com/a/K6GSH\n\nThere's more to learn as the investigation continues. Personally I think he's probably done some less than ethical stuff with Russia, but I'm not sure it was treason/illegal. \n\nYou can loop the earlier pedophilia comment in with sexual predation imo. If that's not good enough for you refer back to *grab em by the pussy.*\n\n",
"─=≡Σ(((ᕕ༼ ︣ ᗜ ︣ ༽୨",
"Having political leanings doesn’t mean you are part of a political party. Which Party was Merick Garland part of? (I’ll wait).\n\nMerrick Garland didn’t get a vote because filling a Justice during an election year is stupid. Let the incoming elected person... a reflection of the will of the people in current times... appoint a justice. This is a representative Democracy. Obama wanted to leave his stain on everything in a true Hobbesian fashion.\n",
"Mary Jane from Spiderman? ",
"These politicians don't work for the people because they are not afraid of us! ",
"The thing actually being held hostage right now is CHIP funding, which Republicans refused to renew for months only to now use it as a bargaining chip for this bill.\n\nBut my point was that not all negotiations are equal. Sometimes you shouldn't take a deal, because it's a shitty deal. Republicans have said they'd pass DACA, their voters want them to pass DACA, Trump said he'd sign any bipartisan immigration bill, and then they went back on their word and are refusing to do their jobs. There's no way to paint that as reasonable or acting in good faith. Dems are right to demand that they follow through on their obligations and protect these innocent young people. ",
"its ironic because she is currently in a wheelchair",
"Does she run better than my dog? No, I doubt she runs better than the government. She's only just one person, perhaps she would need more people like her to join together and wear shirts like her. Possibly hundreds. ",
"*unzips and destroys pants*",
"oh",
"If I had to describe someone the German government and politics I would show him this picture. ",
">severe insecurities.\n\n>\"btw is 10RC your sexual preference? 10 year old random children.\"\n\nMy god that's hilarious. I guess it's safe to say you're not old enough to vote.",
"The left hates libertarians more than they hate conservatives, for whatever reason.",
"Absolutely!\n\nBut first, mind if I borrow $200 off ya? I got a sick puppy.",
"I’ll wait for you to find evidence of the pocket veto from President Trump which killed a DACA bill (*It doesn’t exist*).",
"Feel like I aught to post this- this is my best friend. She lives in the UK and is one of the kindest and funniest people on earth despite her serious condition. Not only is she is very grateful for the NHS care she receives, but she never even posted this picture to reddit. Someone took this picture of her joking around the first time she went to vote in the UK elections and it's been reposted ever since. She is the bravest person I know, and never complains seriously, even though her wheelchair is broken and too small for her and she is in serious pain every day. She always says \"well someone somewhere is worse off than me\". I see people reposting this picture all the time and assuming so much, and I just wish they knew.",
"I would also like gifts?\n",
"dude has massive feet",
"The shirt is available [here](http://t1p.de/29jm)",
"\"ignores the recession that was handed to Obama\"",
"I figure the burden on proof is on the guy taking tax payer money to buy said radar and boats. So, given that we have a military, why do we need coast guards that are more than a few posts and binocs?",
"This makes my day 😆🤣😁",
"its not meant to be funny, safe to say you are a pedophile who fucks children too young to vote.",
"I really need to get an imgur link of Luke saying 'Amazing. None of what you said was true'. \n\n",
"Maybe the democrats should stop shutting it down 🤔",
"Why strap'em in?",
"*takes off mask*\n\n\"HA! IT WAS ME ALL ALONG!\"",
"Diving into the uncanny valley here!",
"No it's not because the majority voted him in. ",
">Some U.S. Veterans ARE illegal aliens. \n\nInsane leftists pointing at the 0.00001% minority as a justification to \"prove\" their delusional points. More news at 11! \n\n>America needs to fight for veterans AND Dreamers. \n\nNo? An illegal alien should't be a priority over veterans services/pay. \n\n",
"Sure. It's their fault. Why not?",
"You seem like the type of person that treats physically handicapped differently out of pity. It's not a funny joke.",
"😂 so dumb. Congress doesn’t pass bills in meetings with Presidents. The Dems could put forward any DACA bill they want for an up or down vote. It will never happen cause Chuck has chosen the Schumer shutdown instead.\n\nThe spending bill right now that Schumer is blocking will renew CHIP and the Republicans votes 3 times to extend funding on CHIP (and our government). You are spewing talking points for the Dems, not sharing facts here. Sad... 9 million Americans who need help right now in CHIP are lesser important to you and the Dems than 3 million illegals who have until March to get the help they need.",
"Government is not a being with legs. So it can't run and neither can you.",
"Another poor slave from the left sad ",
">No they don't. You need look no further than Trump's election.\n\nWell, you should look further, because then you would see that [87% of Americans support the DACA program, according to a CBS News poll conducted a few days ago](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-americans-support-daca-but-oppose-border-wall-cbs-news-poll/), and [75% of Americans support CHIP according to Kaiser Health Tracking](https://www.kff.org/health-reform/poll-finding/kaiser-health-tracking-poll-september-2017-whats-next-for-health-care/)\n\nSo you're wrong there. \n\n> it's nice to see the democrats getting a taste of their own medicine.\n\nWhat the fuck are you even talking about? This is a manufactured crisis with Republicans essentially saying \"Take this poison pill or we'll condemn children to death and Americans to be deported\"\n\n> Entertaining isn't it?\n\nAnd there it is. The misanthropy of Libertarians. It's why even in 2016, with the GOP and Democrats fielding the worst candidates *ever*, you couldn't even hit your measly goal of 15% polling support to get into the debates. They would have rather stay home than vote for the party of amorality and apathy. You're ideology is bunk, your party irrelevant. \n\n",
"[X] Doubt",
"Circa 2008-2016",
"Great spirit girl!",
"Is this...real? Idk whether to laugh or not laugh.",
"Thanks, Noobnoob.",
"Fuck go back.",
"Yep, you are definitely 'yeartwelve' in age. Go do something better than whine you baby.",
"Because people are projecting their politically aligned blame as to why it was shut down.\n\nIt was definitely shut down because of Niagara freezing so the lizard people shadow master puppet government couldn't funnel more brainwashed human fodder to their nestlings hidden deep in a lair behind the falls.",
"You realize the only reason those tax cuts aren’t permanent is because they couldn’t get democrats to vote for it?",
"This won't do. I'm a little person. just over 3' tall.",
"Good thing we have millionaires senators running Congress and representatives. Who knew public servants could make millions ",
"Sorry.. you are correct about he spending bill. I was thinking about the expected Support to stop Schumer’s filibuster.",
"McConnell voted against the bill as did other Republicans. But sure go ahead and blame Democrats if it helps you *feel* better. ",
"Unless you towel is always getting high",
"Good to see reddit admitting the government is inefficient and supporting a smaller government.",
"Wow, handed down since the great depression!?\n\nGoalposts moved, though. ",
"And she doesn't run anywhere when you grab him!",
"But where is his spout?",
"> Stop. Having it be closed. \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTs8qiOMh_o",
"I was just trying to educate you so you can stop spreading falsehoods.",
"(งツ)ว",
"Where is the President’s DACA veto? ",
"Doubt it...",
"\"James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron. James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is... James Cameron\"",
"i think she put it on and its meant to be laughed at given her smile lol",
"Yeah,because r/sfwpornnetwork is put in sections\n\nand r/pic is just 1 sub so everything gets put on 1 sub.",
"Looks like the kinda fart that sounds like a question *”mmmbbrrrrr...?”* ",
"Sort of funny",
"Yes, angry people go away eventually. People like this, never go away. ",
"Hur Hur so fucking funny. The government will run, you never will kid.",
"That would apply if we were talking about immigration reform, but we're not. \n\nExtending DACA protection is about immigration, yes, but it is not about fundamentally changing immigration policy (aka \"reform\") it is an extension of established immigration rules that were arbitrarily changed by Trump.\n\n",
"Is that a JoJo reference?",
"How does one get a shirt so fast",
"Stop overthinking it, if it's funny laugh.\n",
"come on man... if you're going to talk about misleading, at least don't use a misleading figure like that. You're using his first year in the average which is an extreme outlier that he had no control over. Since you brought 'misleading' up again, I'd like to note that GDP growth is usually talked about quarterly, not annually.\n\nAs for being the lowest since the great depression, that's not exactly telling of anything. Like I said, market forces have a much greater impact on GDP than policy. The US was still heavily developing throughout the 1900s, with air travel and long-distance land travel becoming a huge boon to how companies could go about their business. Growing technology markets of the 1980s and 1990s... etc.",
"Made the mistake of checking out the controversial comments, I feel like I need to take a shower and bleach my brain now",
"as far as i know, some people’s legs are so fragile that they’ll swing around and can get snagged on stuff if they arent strapped in ",
"You don't seriously believe that, do you? You can't seriously be unaware that millions more people voted for Clinton than Trump, right? No one is actually that stupid are they? ",
"Oh no. Not again.",
"She sure does",
"No. There needed to be 60 votes to pass in this case. ",
"As long as they are *sure* I support this",
" Nope, I didn't say that. Just that you used an example that shows you aren't up to date on the legislation you are arguing against. ",
"?",
"**very** uncomfortable stare at the camera",
"I get it!",
"Obama’s shutdown yes, but the current one no.",
"We all want her to post an update",
"That's fuckin' awesome",
"TIL: Salty, butthurt Trumpers mad over a funny picture. Holy fuck you guys need to get a fucking life.",
"I too am for smaller government.",
"She looks like she's 13.",
"Didnt offend me. I upvoted you.",
"Don't forget the face!",
"So what's your plan, other than complaining here?",
"\"most\" ",
"That's basically it. Make my voice heard, and I'm gonna vote in the midterms this year",
"Ouch?",
"They usually have kids sizes, not sure if they fit though. Sometimes it takes a bit longer to load, they are in the drop down menu. \n \nE: The other shirts I could find all have the same text, but different designs, sry",
"Trump said the shutdown is on the president.",
"The guy who took the picture was a madman and you too for reposting it in this sub either she's cute so upvoted it either way",
"This does nothing to explain the contents of the sub to me...",
"Exactly. This is the treasure of r/politics even though it's everyone else's trash.",
"I'm happy the woman has a sense of humor in this photograph, and that other goofy comments appear generally received! Thank you for taking the time out of your day to have a dialogue. Anything for you buddy. Especially after the week you had. Sounded wonderful, congrats on a successful week bro ",
"Unrelated, but we could be related!",
"(Sensible chuckle)",
"Got 'em! He'll definitely change his mind now.",
"You know there are actually some okay TED talks? Mostly TEDx's but they do exist.",
"\"Haha look, he posts somewhere that I don't like! Therefore he must be wrong!\"",
"+1",
"Donations ",
"*gets sent to the bitcoin mines after failing to pay $300 monthly for her wheelchair rental*",
"> if Donald was in the KKK but quit, would you have the same opinion?\n\nI think the answer to that is extremely obvious. We wouldn't hear the end of it. Reddit would be screaming 24/7 about him being a nazi. (Even more so than they already do)",
"But it does mean maybe she is retarted",
"Mary the paralegal",
"The fact that it's a reposted low quality image from years ago and doesn't belong in r/pics. Most people here are looking for cool, high quality, and unique photographs, and this post is not one.",
">safe to say you are a pedophile who fucks children too young to vote.\n\ndon't worry, i won't touch you. ",
"Look up the Latin root for the word corporation - it’s corpus. Literally meaning body. Companies are collections of people with a shared interest. Crazy that unions get all these protections that companies don’t.",
"u gonna cri?",
"Sounds like a strange sex move",
"Yay you can insult a disabled kid! We need more people like you.",
"Aaaaaand another default goes on the filter list",
"The irony is very strong. ",
"*why don’t you have a seat right over here*",
"accurate",
"UNSUBSCRIBE",
"I don't think it's 80k votes funny no.",
"\n\"As we said a thousand times, we are happy to discuss how to fund the government but not with a gun to our head. Open up all of the government, and then we can have a fruitful discussion.\" -Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY), October 1, 2013 \n\n“We are not in an 'Alice in Wonderland' world, where those who advocate shutting down the government then accuse others of shutting down the government.\" -Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY), October 4, 2013 \n\n\"It makes much more sense to have the government open and then have the debate in the proper place--a conference committee that decides future funding, in an omnibus appropriations bill--what level of funding, if any, each part of the government should get.\" -Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY), October 4, 2013 \n\n\"That is how a budget works, how appropriations works, and how our government is run. But to take an extraneous issue and to say unless we get rid of it, they are going to shut down the government, no way.\" -Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY), October 1, 2013 \n\n\"Because to only talk while the government is shut down does huge damage to millions of innocent people and to our country's economy. They forgot to say: Let's vote. Then let's talk. Their motto should be modified.\" -Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY), October 4, 2013\n\nTrump could never have known how his once-friend Schumer would be a lying hypocrite in the worst kind of way.",
"The coast guard generally handles things like illegal immigration, drug smuggling, human trafficking, search and rescue operations, etc. The other 4 branches of the military are, mainly, for war. The coast guard is for protection. \n\nEven if the navy did everything the coast guard did, it would just cause the navy to be more expensive. It’s not like having another department exclusively for guarding the coast automatically leads to it being more expensive. ",
"> The entire point of this subreddit is to share exceptional examples of photography\n\nI agree with your overall point, but... is it? The top five posts on this sub are a photo of a newspaper ad, an actual photo worthy of /r/photography, two pictures of people smiling, and an anime drawing plugging the artist's social media. The next ten aren't much better.\n\nThis is the aggregate quality bar of a default sub. I don't go to the gas station to buy steak, and I certainly don't complain if the closest thing they have is stale jerky.",
"If the issue was immigration reform it might be hilarious and/or sad (by which I assume you mean hypocritical) but that isn't why there is a shutdown so it isn't.\n\nBut in the general case I reject the notion that politicians who change their minds are somehow de facto hypocrites. Isn't changing one's mind in the face of new information or unforeseen consequences the very essence of rational thought and moral reasoning?\n",
"#TIP ME OVER AND POUR ME OUT",
"What I did before when I couldn't find my size and I really wanted a shirt was place a very similar design on an CustomInk.com tshirt in a small size.",
"That's how we got Trump.",
"Can’t agree more! God bless your attitude. I don’t care who’s on what side but I love your message. I hope the best for you ",
"> That's basically it\n\n L O L\n\n O L O\n\n L O L",
"Lol that's meaningless. Trump has nothing to do with this. He doesn't vote on these things. \n\nActions speak louder than words. The democrats shutdown the government in favor of illegal immigrants and said FU to Americans, children affected by CHIN and the military.\n\nThey lost the midterms. ",
"Holy shit dude do you actually believe that? If you're on the left or liberal have zero problem with that, but after leaked footage of CNN employees admitting outright that it's all nothing, after more than a year of nothing and no evidence you still believe in this stuff?\n\nI don't get how the same retard can sit there saying \"yep Trump is going down any day now\". Think for yourself dude, don't allow the media to define reality for you.",
"You made me exhale quickly through my nose",
"> Trump Derangement Syndrome noises",
"I love positivity ",
"Makes sense with how many government employees are suddenly on vacation.",
"if you dont laugh you cry",
"Obama had the Presidency for eight years. He had the Senate and House for four of those years. Where’s the Obama’s tax cut again? Get real, you are literally hating people having more of their own money. Your stupidity defies all logic.",
"That one is way too good",
"i dont think she can even walk ",
"Sort of like anti memes but not",
"> nice copy paste\n\nIf he had paraphrased it, you would have accused him of lying. You're doing nothing in good faith.",
"Because I thought it was kinda dark humor and that sub might find it funny.",
"Followed by an all star Canadian clapback, I love it ",
"Ha ha I like witty and deep content like this ha",
"r/cringe ",
"Interesting, I didn’t know that. Thanks for letting me know!",
"I’m about to die from laughter",
"Is this a libtard joke?",
"That little girl seems happy!",
"By far the best thing I've seen all day!",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/wiki/v2/resources/filter/politics",
"mission accomplished :0)",
"Ah. The same Republicans who didn't have money for CHIP in the tax plan now care about kids LMAO.\n\nThe same Republicans who blocked a bill to pay the military yesterday now care about the military LMAO. \n\nTrump has nothing to do with it indeed. He's a ponzy president.",
"After opening of the portal there is no going back. Elder gods have risen from their slumber.",
"While I am not Canadian. I could probably (freeze to death trying to) swim to the border. Eh. ;) ",
"Ah, one of those sweet and sour farts after a good box of Chinese.",
"Trump is the one refusing to accept a reasonable deal.",
"Thank you. ",
"Except this is not stupid in any sense except that Trump is a weak and ineffectual leader with no interest in governance, at least. \n\nThis shutdown came because 4 parties were negotiating and the 3 Republican groups (the racist Freedom Caucus, the incompetent and irrational president and the mainstream Republicans) couldn't agree on anything except opposing the Democrats.\n\nSo yeah, the fundamental reason for the shutdown is \"stupid\" but protecting the rights and security of 800,000 Americans isn't, not in any sense.",
"Oh no. I wrote that because it's a copy paste without any context around it. Usually done to push your agenda.",
"https://imgur.com/PYJQMix\n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/GBGR700.png",
"not worried for me, worried for the local pre-schholers that you lust after.",
"*Uses gov’t money to pay for medial bills*",
"Prove my point.",
">Reddit is turning into a political shithole. ",
"I wonder is she's Canadian",
"No, because Empathy does not trump all. Your bad!",
"Becuase in those hypothetical systems, the government isn't headed by someone with a vested interest in the government shutting down.",
"General reposti, you are an immobile one",
"How do I save this post for ever?",
"Well excuse me for still getting the point across.",
"Holy shit you're right. I used to check them every day",
"screw that I'm not going to download a chrome extension for reddit only.",
"for me it only shows a rectangle with A98C in it.",
"Unlike the government, she'll eventually have the option to get robotic legs. Then once she replaces her arms she'll be ready to take over the galaxy. ",
"It's okay if you only get a little high. ",
"Small note. \n\nA CR or Budget needs to pass with a super majority in the Senate (60 votes).\n\nThe Republicans only hold 52 seats, which means even if every Republican Senator voted yes to pass it (and this includes wheeling McCain in from his medical leave) they would still need 8 Democratic to vote yes. \n\nAs of right now, it is a told of 14 senators (six Republicans that voted no and any other 8 Democrats) that are effectively holding the government hostage.",
"Right but this temp tax cut is going to be so beneficial to us in five years right? \n\nBut it's instant gratification so everyone will gobble it up. ",
"I cant get over how sweet her outfit it. Matches so well. I need pants like those. Anyway I hope she doesn't read these comments and take all the negativity personally, people are just upset at the repost and that it keeps getting posted in a place where political talk doesn't belong.",
"All tax plans have expiration dates ",
"He’s showing me his little bicep!",
"Very unzips",
"Actually, she has yet to take a stand on it.",
">wow government is so easy if I were in government it wouldn't shut down\n>runs for government\n>wins\n>realizes it's not as easy as she thinks it is",
"They're just sad at this point tbh.",
"Suck my dick.",
"Reddit ideology != practical ideas that work in real life",
"Classic soiboi open mouth smile ",
"Lol have you ever even been on Medicare? It's a complete joke. ",
"The democrats votes for illegal immigrants instead of all of those things LMAO\n\nIts astonishing how little you guys know about what's going on. ",
"It’s an incredibly easy setup. If you don’t want to do it, that’s on you. ",
"I'm not against this idea, but you'd be wrong if you assume that politicians make most of their money from their government paychecks.",
"*The office theme plays*",
"Yes. Kids aged 10 or less coming in without their consent are really your classic case of illegal immigrants. Don't ever try to hide your racist ass ✌️\n\nAnd no, the Republicans voted against chip and paying the military. Try watching the proceedings on Friday and start being informed lul.",
"How well do you run exactly?",
"The government runs like qwop",
"Are you from Greenland? Not familiar with the culture there haha",
"So they should just agree to however much money down the drain for a wall, or massive cuts to healthcare? There are some republicans working hard a compromise which is how it is supposed to work, but the president should be a fundamental part of this, especially since he kicked it all off by suspending DACA. The art of the deal indeed.\n\nAnd what, democrats keep shutting it down? In 1990 and 1995 it came down to Newt Gingrich's fundamentalism, and in 2013 an insane demand to dismantle the ACA from a republican controlled house. Now that party has both houses and can't pass a simple spending bill...",
"(Shhhhh you figured him out)",
"But our high standard of living is at the expense of most of the world who have to work in mines and sweatshops",
"if it is so obvious that policy takes 8+ years to see results then why does everyone here call trump a failure after just one year? ",
"No, you run equally as well as the government.",
" ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ",
"Alf Pogs",
">2001 from W. Bush\n\n>86, from Reagan\n\nDid you ever notice how it's only the Republicans that want to make things better?",
"If only redditors believed that",
"I remember seeing this in 2018.\n\n(About 10 seconds ago.)",
"Yeah, that's half the story about CHIP. Surprise! It's only presents the Republican argument simplistically and missing vital details. Here is a better, honest explanation of the CHIP issue:\n\nhttps://theintercept.com/2018/01/20/chip-shutdown-repubclicans-plucked-out-chip-but-let-a-slew-of-other-health-programs-languish/\n\nBut yes Democrats don't like \"things\" being defunded to pay for CHIP, like other low-income health programs. Are Republicans suggesting we cut the defense budget to build the border wall? Why not?\n\n> Without border security and immigration reform, it would be foolhardy to pass any amnesty or else we will find ourselves in this exact same predicament in 20 years' time.\n\nShow your math. DACA recipients are the children of migrant workers who came here due to economic conditions the forced them to migrate to find work, and they aren't necessarily a reoccurring phenomenon. For example, for the last eight years of the Obama administration the net undocumented immigration to the US has been ZERO.\n\n>As you said, Republicans have already agreed to pass a bill to help.\n\nWhat? No, they didn't, they rejected DACA extension. This is why Republicans using CHIP as a bargaining chip (which is also addressed in the linked page).",
"You obviously don't understand how economics work besides a few articles helping your narrative. If you're actually interested in furthering your knowledge, Google how much impact an administration can have on the economy. Obama nor Trump can take sole credit for the way the economy is going seeing how it's extremely complex, and there are 1000s of factors that affect it, but go ahead and keep showing off your ignorance like a moron, really helps the perspective of your chosen political party...",
"If she has a dick, that's a bonus. +1",
"That would explain a lot, actually.",
"cool carrots",
"And yet every day on /r/pics I see shitty cell phone photos of people in everyday situations with titles like \"I BEAT MY HEROIN BREAST CANCER ADDICTION AND LOST 130 POUNDS.\"\n\nSick of it. There's subs for it. I'm happy for people who beat cancer and get over addictions and lose weight but the pictures are never interesting and they're nothing more than cheap karma grabs.",
"Anything for RedditIsFun app?",
"I want those shoes.",
"Sorry, medical terms. [synergistic patterns](https://static.cambridge.org/resource/id/urn:cambridge.org:id:binary:78414:20160721043956898-0197:01168fig047_1.png?pub-status=live) (commonly seen in cerebral palsy or post-stroke) and LE CP = low extremity cerebral palsy",
"Lol you're not going to get an example. Just more posturing and scaremongering.",
"Oh that’s my cousin lol",
"Daca average age is 26-35. They aren't kids. Hahaha!!!! When the left loses an argument they always resort to calling others racist.\n\nThe democrats voted against chip and the military when they voted no on the CR.\n\nI'll repeat. It's astonishing how little you guys know. ",
"He must've studied Trump in that \"how to mock disabled people\" lesson he gave.",
"We continue to elect people who proclaim the government doesn't work and then they set out to prove themselves true. Why should we expect anything different? ",
"This doesn't make sense to me. OP is in a wheel chair it looks like. Seems like they wouldn't be able to use their legs at all.",
"Reasonable is subjective.",
"Good work, Lou! That’s some fine arm switching.",
"Let's try and wrap our heads around this I'll hold your hand through it kiddo. So i brought up the Ellis island awards, so if you did cut and paste from Snopes that's of no concern to me. And by the way thank you for cut and pasting instead of actually having your own opinion. You've intertwined your opinion with facts. Let's just play with the facts you can keep your idiocy to yourself. 😉",
"I believe in equality, if the little legless girl can insult our president, she opens it up for herself",
"Don’t dead open inside.",
"wait so what's the actual story here?",
"My sister made fun of her goddamn leukaemia, I don’t think I’ve ever met someone with a major illness/disability who didn’t make fun of their condition in fact..",
"What are you quoting?",
"💪(👁👄👁)🤜",
"Ohhh its been proven? Because you say so? Ohh ok. By the way I heard LA is a real SHIT HOLE. ",
"Voting for the military? That’s a lotta people to vote for, ya know. \n\nWhich branch? The army? The navy? The coastal guard? You gotta be more specific, dude. ",
"thatsthejoke",
"Yeah me too.",
"\"trump denounces David Duke and the KKK\"\nhttp://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/donald-trump-disavows-david-duke-kkk/index.html\n\n\"David Duke is a bad person, who I disavowed on numerous occasions over the years,\" Trump said",
"Unzips more carefully, and then re-zips with an equal level of caution and care.",
"Before Trump was elected he detailed how Mexico would pay for the wall, which included recouping the money.\n\nFunding for the wall has been a prerequisite for a DACA deal the whole time. Not sure what you're smoking. ",
"sure",
"I'm not 65 so no. As a doctor I'd wish a lot more insurances operated as quick as Medicare did paying me though \n\nHow is it a joke exactly? ",
"Anything could happen with anything. It's not LIKELY to happen in this case. ",
"I posted it because I thought she was funny and adorable. I think most people here agree with me. If you really do know her, please tell her that her humor made me(and I think many others) smile today. ",
">Obama was healing us with live",
"No clue",
"I had fun once. I didn’t like it.",
"In my humble opinion it's a fine system but I can see how grand coalitions could get frustrating. ATM the afd aren't a plausible coalition partner, and have taken votes from a lot of different parties, so everybody is a little weakened. Paralysing coalitions or two parties that become ever more bitterly divided, you take your poison but in the US they voted, have all parts of the national government in the hands of one party and now the government is closed.",
"Kind of curious how she looks at this all these years later",
"“Everyone that disagrees with me is a Nazi”\nYou’re a walking meme bro.",
"Dont be so hateful. Its unhealthy.",
"*Less than half of those that voted\n\nFtfy",
"Thank you\n\n*voilent exhale* I can see my breath it's so cold out",
"*woooooooooooosh*",
"Did you just unironically say libtard",
"Thatsthejoke.com",
"Sorry, Im a reddit noob. :(",
"I am disabled and I live in the US. She sounds awesome. If she would like a friend that can understand what she is going through, I would love to talk to her! ",
">Wow, handed down since the great depression!?\n>\n>Goalposts moved, though. \n\nHold up, are you seriously claiming to be unaware of the recession that started in Bush's final term and was in full swing when Obama took office? ",
"Implying it isn’t already",
"Except for the fact that the free market would have done those things better.",
"Wait wait wait. The US government is closed?! What happened? What did I miss? ",
"That's why they all fought against gay rights for decades, right? I love being afraid of my Vice President because he advocates electrocuting me because I like dicks",
"Hey m8 your account's 3 years old",
"Oh gross it's one of them",
"I like Taco Bell. I don’t like how Taco Bell makes me feel afterward. Like Taco Bell ravaged my insides and after I had thought we had a wonderful evening Taco Bell leaves cash on the nightstand reminding me of what I really am, a whore for cheese. Then the dirty feeling sets in and the shame courses through my veins as I sit firmly on the toilet seat the morning after, contemplating my life’s decisions. The only solace I find is showering all of the sweat and tears from my morning poop away and beginning anew. \n\nAnd I say that I’ll never again eat that Taco Bell. But every few months I can’t help myself and once again Taco Bell and I share another late night and the cycle repeats itself. \n\n But yea, crunchwraps are tight",
"Should've known I'm arguing with a dumbfuck. DACA kids were brought in when they were young and less than 10 years old. It doesn't matter what age they're now. ",
"Hang about, didn't you guys rebel to get away from the whole God Emperor thing?\n",
"GOOD point",
"^ creepy",
"You're not the boss of me! ",
"I think it's reasonable to say the Senate is in republican control. If it's not, then the last time it would have been in control of either party was in the [Carter administration.](http://wiredpen.com/resources/political-commentary-and-analysis/a-visual-guide-balance-of-power-congress-presidency/)",
"Yes, I wasnt around \"5 years ago\". I had not seen this picture before.",
"Yes every single tax law must be renewed because in the Constitution there is no specific income tax law. What’s your point?\n\nAlso; Yes it will benefit us in 5 or 10 years and arguably longer since:\n1. It is typically harder for elected officials to RAISE taxes without really good reasons unless they want to get replaced in the next elections. This means in our society, it is much more likely that the tax cuts will be relatively permanent in some form when subsequent tax bills are passed.\n2. The benefits to the economy that results from companies repatriating trillions of dollars for overseas investments that had been taxed at a lower rate before his bill was passed means we will all benefit (jobs, better infrastructure, etc.)\n3. Companies are much more likely to invest at least a portion of the profits they now get to keep that were taxed before this bill was passed. Such investments result in restructuring, better-run businesses, more state of the art facilities, more jobs, new innovation, research and development, new manufacturing in the US (and not overseas), etc. This growth over the next five years will have a lasting impact on us many, many years and decades from now. \n\nFinally, what Democrats refuse to admit is that the booming economy as a result of the tax cuts will actually result in a net increase of overall government spending power of current trends continue for the next 5 years. As companies become exponentially more valuable, and as individuals have collectively more income over 5 years due to a booming economy, even the lower tax rates will work to garner more money in taxes than the higher previous tax rates on a stake economy.\n\nSo, Yes, we will all be better off in 5 years as a result of this tax break no matter what happens.\n\nAt the very least, you crybaby, wisely invest your extra money that you no longer pay in taxes over the next 5 years and you will personally be much wealthier than you are in 5 years than you would have been by handing over that same money to the government in taxes. This is a true statement even if your income does not change at all over the next 5 years and your taxes go back up in 5 years.\n\nStop being such a fucking Democratic tool.",
"Because dreamers are losing protections and being deported every day. ",
"There's no indication that the central park ads were due to the skin colour of the five, so calling it racism is a huge mental leap.",
"How convenient that you found this picture then.",
"Wait...are all of the liberals suddenly beginning to understand how much the government sucks?",
"She might if this technology advances significantly within her lifetime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKbeSNChcRk",
"Really? It's not their fault that they came to a bipartisan deal that Trump last minute backed out of. Also, the republicans could have voted to fund CHIP months ago. Instead they decided to hold into it to use the healthcare of children as a bargaining tool. It's disgusting. ",
"So, they only needed to con nine democrats (oh sorry, a couple republicans wouldn't fall for their own bullshit either) into voting for a total shit bill with enough controversial crap tacked onto it to sink an air craft carrier, and they couldn't pass it?\nThose with a conscience wouldn't vote for it, and repubs made funding the government for only four weeks pivotal on passing it.\nRepeated stop gap funding is not sustainable, nor is it fiscally responsible, and both sides know it, but republicans are using it as blackmail. Vote for this totally shitty bill that victimizes thousands of people or we will blame you for the shutdown. ",
"I guess I see your reservations on it but it still is saying after 10 uears they'll get fucked so lets just keep fucking them. It seems better to give the temp break than none at all. ",
"Yes, and quietly closing a shitload of sams clubs. Twice as many jobs lost.",
"What financial legislation has been passed and enacted and effected the economy since Trump took office?",
"Do you have a source for any of that?",
"Im traveling at the speed of light",
"https://www.snopes.com/mike-pence-supported-gay-conversion-therapy/",
"no, you are just incredibly stupid.\n\nhere i will spell it out for you, since you are far to dumb to understand.\n\n\njust because you think differently does not mean you are a Nazi.\n\n\nbut thinking like a Nazi, which is \"different\" than normal society makes you an evil Nazi. \n\nthinking differently like a pedophile is bad, thinking differently like a murderer is bad.\n\nso no not everyone who thinks differently is a Nazi.\n\nthinking \"differently\" by supporting trump who supports child pedophilia, bigotry, racism, sexual assault, treason, and much more mean you are a bad person.\n\nyou can think \"differently\" and think vanilla is better than chocolate and thats ok.\n\ndo you understand now, kiddo?",
"No one disputes that the Republicans have a majority. Are you making a point here that I am totally missing?\n\n1. Schumer, the minority leader, led the filibuster. It takes a super majority to break a filibuster since Mitch Mcconnell refuses to do anything with the nuclear option... like the idiot he is. When Dems were in this situation, they used the nuclear option to get stuff done.\n2. The vote FOR the spending bill requires a 60 vote majority which means at least 10 Dems must break ranks and side with a unanimous caucus of Republicans. Schumer’s hardass stance is keeping any of them from breaking ranks to open the government back up.",
"You teach kids and you're parroting Mitch Mcconnell? Kennedy was nominated in an election year, it's a completely made up idea to leave the court at risk of 4-4 decisions more than 1/4 of the time.",
"Thode numbers are horribly skewed though. It was a random sampling of people for a phone screen. That strongly self selects people who are engaged in politics already. The undereducated crowd I refered to aren't going to take the poll. I would love to believe those numbers but as you can see in all sorts of discussions I don't think most of the US is actually engaged in current events/government.",
"Not really as apt ",
"I will tell her. It will definitely make her happy to know she has made you smile . She says the most important thing in life is to \"be kind and have fun\".",
"Thank your for disproving yourself with your own link.\n\n>Pence never stated that he supported the use of electric shocks or \"gay conversion\" therapy.",
"I think she would really like that! She loves to write and receive letters/emails.",
">Run better than government",
"And plenty of people never say what they truly think. He attempted to put funding through for it, but never specified what type. The fact he wanted to at all is fucking abhorrent.",
"Someone’s jimmies are rustled",
"Wouldn’t a bunch of right leaning libertarians be in favor of smaller, more efficient government?",
"Going to leave this right here, because DAMN !!....\n\nhttps://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/21/us/politics/congress-government-shutdown.html",
" The point doesn't come across though because it sounds to much like all the facebook posts or other biased articles that misreprestent the situation in order to persuade people. The point is the deductions that were actually cut were seldom used and didn't come close to offsetting the increased standard deduction. That means even those students under the much harsher House version would still have been bringing home more money than before the bill in all but a very limited number of cases. People just didnt actually calculate the difference, prefering to harp on what seemed to have been taken away.",
"No. The Republicans and Democrats came to a bipartisan deal. Trump is the one holding your benifits hostage for his own political gains. He said no to the bipartisan deal. He thinks he can bully away the rights of people because he's the president. He thought he could bully the dems into voting for terribly policies they and their constituent don't believe in because they wouldn't allow the government to shut down. In fact, 80 percent of American support the dreamers having a path to citizenship. There's many things each side disagree on, but this is not one of them. But Trump doesn't like is so he thought he could bully the dems out of it. And he was wrong and now he has to live the with fact that the government shut down because he was the one person who didn't like the bipartisan deal. ",
"He said and. Not or. Not over. AND. Doing good for one group doesn't mean you have to fuck over another. Dems want to help both. It's republicans that are acting like you get one or the other, like empathy is some commodity that's a limited resource. ",
"Technically she can run just as good as the government. ",
"Ah, love.",
"*Dabs*",
"Dis http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/donald-trump-verhandlungen-am-tag-2-des-shutdown-in-den-usa-a-1188982.html",
"why you triggered bro?\n\ncool story bro?\n\n\ny tho\n\nayyy lol\n\ni just cant even\n\n\n\nthere i think i covered all the catchphrases you retards like to use to deflect when you cant continue the thread because you know i am right. ",
"Memes as if a twelve year-old just found a meme generator but has no idea how memes work.",
"That’s a ridiculous comparison. Kennedy was sworn in almost a full year before Reagan—a popular president by the end of his term—was to vacate the office, and was nominated as the second nominee for the position (the first not confirmed by the Senate) going back to 1987 a year earlier. Garland was nominated less than ten months before Obama—an embattled president by the end of his term—knew he would be replaced.\n\nThere is no “risk” of a 4-4 Court. Nothing in the Constitution sets the number of the Court at 9. Its an arbitrary number, and entirely up to Congress. It’s changed many times throughout the years and will likely change again at some point.\n\n",
"Agreed 1000%! Thank you!",
"Let's see how she feels in a month...",
"Because you’re getting all upset and saying there is no good Trump supporters. It’s sad how stupid you are my dude",
"“It’s Trumps fault that we’re obstructionists!! Because Trump!!!”",
"We don’t negotiate with terrorists.",
"Lol that was actually pretty funny.",
"It IS a joke. It’s a joke about how much democrats worship the position of the Presidency. It’s complete satire and if you don’t see that then you’re retarded.",
"Why would the Free Market even *want* to land on the moon? There is no short term gain to be had.\n\nLong term R&D has always been governmental because the private sector works on short term profit margins, so things like \"the computer revolution\" can be a hard sell to inventories when there is no promise of immediate expected returns. That's why \"[the U. S. Army is credited with initiating the computer revolution](https://www.arl.army.mil/www/default.cfm?page=148),\" just to give one example.\n\nSo, yeah, the free market wouldn't have \"gone to the moon better,\" because it wouldn't have gone to the moon at all (and ***still*** hasn't 50 years later).\n\nAnd, the free market would have made ***every*** road a toll road. Else, why would a for-profit organization bother building them at all?",
"Probably runs better than the government in the past 5 presidents. ",
"What is the average age of DACA recipients? I'll wait for you to Google it. \n\nDACA is wrong, DACA is fraudulent, DACA needs to go away. \n\nThe government is shut down because the Democrats chose DACA ( 24 year old + adult illegal aliens) over the military getting paid. \n\nYou don't have to like that, but that is the reality of the situation.",
"You had me until you made assumptions about the way I spend/invest my money, called me a crybaby because I'm unhappy with the most inept administration I've ever seen in my lifetime, and then called me a democratic tool when I'm not even a democrat. \n\nNow I'm just assuming you're a Trump cocksucker and everything you just spent your free time typing out, which seems like you put a bunch of thought into, is completely negated by the fact that you decided to personally attack someone. \n\n\n\n\nEdit: yes, you frequent T_D. Absolutely a cocksucker. ",
"This looks like a bad copy",
"so someone who supports racism, bigotry, pedophilia, treason, in your mind is a good person?\n\nplease explain how racism, bigotry, pedophilia, and treason is good.",
"Thx 4 the link. \nHoly shit. After only one year being president... I really wonder how long the US will survive this man. ",
"Salty 😭 \nNever made any assumptions, just one suggestions to ease your disdain at actually keeping more of your money. And yes I called you out for being a sniveling little crybaby for actually getting more of your money and crying about it like a sniveling little crybaby.\n\nYou are a Typical New age Democrat-supporting leftist: \n\n“You had me with your logical, fact-based reasoning until I realized you support Trump and now I just hate you and will call you an insensitive and highly offensive anti-queer slur and will ignore all facts and reason so that I can continue to be miserable.”\n",
"That's creepy",
"Nah son, just called you a cocksucker. That's all. ",
"You can start by giving me specific examples of Trump exhibiting those things, especially treason or pedophilia ",
"Obama in many ways had a rough second term, but also left [with popular approval](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/15/fox-news-poll-positive-ratings-for-president-obama-as-exits.html). I find that impressive given the increase in partisanship since Reagan was in office.",
">Extending DACA protection is about immigration\n\nNo, DACA is amnesty.\n\n>it is not about fundamentally changing immigration policy (aka \"reform\")\n\nNo, of course not, amnesty isn't immigration policy by definition.\n\nBut here's the thing: if you give amnesty without doing anything to fix the conditions that allowed the current situation to arrise, then you will inevitably not only end up in the same situation again, but also exacerbate the problem because you have shown that people will be rewarded for ignoring the system in place.\n\nAmnesty **must** be done in conjuction with increased security and enforcement.\n\n>it is an extension of established immigration rules that were arbitrarily changed by Trump.\n\nFactually incorrect. DACA was an executive order creating a framework in which existing law was to be ignored by enforcement. Trump did not arbitrarily change any law, he ordered an orderly end to a system that was not created through legislation which arbitrarily ordered the ignoring of law which was created through legislation.",
"Really? Democrats are terrorists now?",
"And I thought yours was the party of tolerance? Guess someone forgot to tell the gay community how much you love to slander.\n\nBe sure to invest that money Trump is saving you, you’ll be better off in 5 years.\n\nAlso, enjoy those salty 😭 another 7 years. ",
"No. It’s a metaphor for the fact that you shouldn’t negotiate with people who are trying to hold you hostage. Which is what the democrats were doing with the budget and DACA.",
"he supported moore in Alabama, and has said he would date his daughter if she were not his daughter when she was like 16. also he admits to walking into the dressing room of underage girls, knowing they would be in a state of undress.\n\nuhh.....all of his connection to russia and the meddling of the election.\n\n\nby the way, once again you are deflecting, why do you think racism, bigotry, pedophilia, and treason are good?\n\nstop deflecting and explain.",
"They're adults now. Because they were children when they came here years ago. And people have birthdays on average once a year...",
"Hey cocksucker, pull the dick out of your face for two seconds and read the part where I said I wasn't a democrat. \n\nI know it's tough, on account of how much you love the taste inside your mouth and all. ",
"And again. They shouldn't have had to make that decision. The democrats were expecting, until a few days ago, to do right by EVERYONE. It's Trump that decided to use you as leverage to hurt DACA recipients. ",
"Awwww rethugs talking about obstruction. So cute.",
"K.",
"Topical.",
"I didn’t support it when republicans did it and I don’t support it now that democrats are doing it. Take your bullshit stereotypes elsewhere.",
"> Why would the Free Market even want to land on the moon?\n\nWhy should people be forced to pay for flying to the moon?\n\n>So, yeah, the free market wouldn't have \"gone to the moon better,\" because it wouldn't have gone to the moon at all (and still hasn't 50 years later).\n\nThe government only 'invented' the technology for space travel because they are the only group stupid enough to dump massive amounts of money into technology way before it is economically feasible in private markets. The same goes for the internet, they didn't invent that, they simply payed obscene amounts to implement and refine networking technology already being developed privately way before it was economically sound in private markets. The internet was coming without the US gov. \n\n>So, yeah, the free market wouldn't have \"gone to the moon better,\" because it wouldn't have gone to the moon at all (and still hasn't 50 years later).\n\nSure it would. It would just take way longer because we wouldn't force people to pay for it, plenty of people would willingly fund to space programs. \n\n>And, the free market would have made every road a toll road.\n\nEvery road is a toll road. Gas tax. ",
">The democrats were expecting, until a few days ago, to do right by EVERYONE. \n\nBut you're not doing right by anyone, especially the taxpayers by blatantly ignoring Federal immigration laws. Illegal aliens are here illegally and they need to go home. Hard stop. \n\nDo you have a RIGHT to be in Canada? Sweden? This really isn't difficult shit to grasp...",
"This is all part of the Taco Bell experience that we must endure. It is the way.",
"I'm pretty sure things would have been fine if the president kept his promise to sign any bipartisan bill. And then he went back on that saying he wouldn't unless they made changes. Why do you think it didn't pass? Trump said he'd veto it as is. ",
"Is your nose running?",
"He didn’t say that about a budget bill. He said that about an immigration bill. You can’t hijack a budget bill and call that an immigration bill. It’s disingenuous.",
"Oh lol we've got some concern troll here. I don't know why they voted the way they did but will call them obstructionists nonetheless. Oh GTFOH.",
"That's a great opinion. But they were here legally because of the protections we are trying to keep in place. And most Americans support it. They deserve to be protected. ",
"I always amuses me when someone spells retarded wrong.",
"The question is which one? All of them? ",
"Do you even know what a concern troll is? Nice strawman you got there.",
"I'm boasting about obama?",
"You made it seem like the parents are behind this picture, and that the person in it doesn't have the capacity to understand what the joke is. The comment is saying \"this person is retarded, and her parents are behind this picture.\"",
">here is my handle and here is my spout.\n\nIt's right there.",
"Oh yeah. Calling Democrats as obstructionists is clearly not a strawman lul.",
">That's a great opinion. But they were here legally \n\nYou're delusional. \n\nChoosing not to enforce the laws on the book does not make something legal. I don't know how you can consider that an opinion? \n\n You are hilarious. \n\n>They deserve to be protected. \n\nNow this, right here! Is an opinion! They deserve to be treated humanely and sent back to their home countries in a timely manner.",
"Are u kidding? When is the last time a bipartisan bill passed with democrat support?",
">Why should people be forced to pay for flying to the moon?\n\nNow you're moving the goal post. You claimed that the Free Market could have done it better, and when I questioned that position, you changed it \"why should we go to the moon?\"(Which -by asking- means you don't know about US Soft Power) Anyway, I guess I can assume you agree with me since you're now changing your stance?\n\n>refine networking technology already being developed privately way before it was economically sound in private markets. The internet was coming without the US gov.\n\nThis is simply false. [[1]](http://www.history.com/news/ask-history/who-invented-the-internet) The private sector didn't have anything to do with the birth of the internet. \n\n>Sure it would. \n\nIt's 50 years later and it still hasn't. The same rockets that send us to the moon can shoot missiles. But, I guess you'd be OK for the US to be decades behind other countries in tec development? You don't see a problem with US lagging behind Russia and China when it comes to warfare? You feel that would be a smart move for the US?\n\n\n>Every road is a toll road. Gas tax.\n\nWell, there you go then.",
"Thank you for the explanation! ",
"At the very least it makes him look like a huge idiot. I'll bring up more examples when I get home to my PC. I don't care for phoneposting .",
"They were given work permits under DACA. They came illegally. But their time here and the protections under DACA have given them temporary legal status here.\n\nHere the thing about my opinion. It's the vast majority of America's opinion. Yours isn't. ",
"How the hell does a spending bill victimize people? Plus the rider attached to it gave insurance to low income kids through CHIP. \n\nGoddamn. Stop reading propaganda.\n\nAlso yes constant stopgaps isn't sustainable. It's been pissing me off too. But a shutdown is way more damaging.\n\nThe last 16-day shutdown caused $24 billion in damages. That's more than NASA's annual budget.",
"Technically you're making the assumption that she can't even stand up. There is a type of paralysis where the individual has muscle function but it is limited and can give out for various lengths of time. My stepmother was a functional quadriplegic who could walk with some difficulty and was an accomplished wheelchair Olympiad with well over a hundred medals across the wheel chair Olympics and other venues but she would have days where her legs and arms would start spasming and she would loose function fully in her legs and lower body and %75 in her arms.",
"No I'm saying he went back on his promise on the immigration bill, and as a result, the government is shutdown. He shouldn't have lied.",
"Guess the conservatives haven't noticed that the liberals have been saying how much the government sucked since the 60's.",
"How did he go back on his promise on an immigration bill? Because the democrats hijacked the budget bill to pass something the republicans would never agree to in an immigration bill on it’s own? Fuck off with that spin.",
"When was a bipartisan bill last introduced in the Senate?",
"there was no hate. Just the irony of someone sitting in a wheelchair paid for by the government she despises.",
"P. S. https://mobile.twitter.com/SenateDems/status/954761305424105472\n\nThe dems tried getting veterans paid. Mitch objected. Veteran pay is too big of a bargaining chip for him to agree to. Veterans are just a tool for him right now. ",
"Question: do you use public roads and infrastructure and still complain about potholes and shitty political decisions?\n\n\n^Come ^off ^it ^ye ^Mongoloid ^wankstain",
"this is your fortune ",
"\"I don't think Hillary Clinton openly defends her mentor anymore so rest easy friend.\"\n\nThe technique you just used was developed by communists in the old Soviet Union.\n\nYou guys sure love your communists.",
"She checks all my boxes, cute, funny, won't be able to walk out on me.",
"It's the worst thing to deal with in all of government. The coverage is terrible and getting anything approved takes absolutely forever unless you're practically already dead. Also the brackets are awful, in most cases it makes more sense to make less money and keep more coverage than to make that tiny bit more from your employer. Also the amount of offices that still take Medicare (other than the required quota) is dwindling. ",
"They probably stole it from the greeks so let's not water down this fact revolving around the white supremacists group the KKK too much. ",
"How odd. You read enough of the URL to determine it's from los angeles but you failed to read the actual URL and see the proof. ",
"60 votes in the Senate to pass bills BTW. \nCongressional support check. \nSenate not so much. \nHence Schumer shutdown didn't you read the \"memo\", lol. \n\nThese shortcomings are due to the democratic party, Ripley's believe it or not. \nTrump 4D chess. \nTerm limits should be imposed. \nDems are knuckle draggers and habitual resisters. \nIt's been a year since Donald's inauguration. \nYet still, Dems will attempt to throw blame whilst doing little to nothing from their powerful perches. \nLet's just agree to disagree, shall we? ",
"Stay strong friend ",
"https://i.imgur.com/5rl9HQT.png",
"There wasnt a bipartisan deal... ",
"It sounds like you have a unique simpleton scenario",
"My situation is anything but unique. ",
"Hmm racist and insulting on top of it. You've lost the argument.\n\nIt does matter. They are capable adults who can get citizenship. Its racist to think they aren't.\n\nGet lost ya bigot. ",
"Did you just assume my gender?? I can’t believe this! \n\n/s",
"Can we meet in the middle somewhere and end this on a good note? ",
"Ah another clueless comment. DACA was brought in BECAUSE they don't have a path to citizenship, you gimp. Read something else than being a trumpet.",
"Copy received weird meme. ",
"This sloppy attempt at a gotcha is meaningless. IMO. \nIf you want to lie to yourself and others regarding who is to blame, do you. One out of context quote, by all means, toot your horn and continue to circle jerk with unpatriotic resisters to your blue in the face. \n\nhttp://archive.is/mfJ7P\n\nIMO this shutdown was preventable, but if those who felt so inclined to deceive others and cast blame unto Trump and the like are wanting this so much. \nThen let the chips fall as they may. \nIt only makes the Dems look foolish and pigheaded regarding their narrow-mindedness for immigration reform or lack thereof. \nDACA deadline isn't set until March yet, they force a shutdown here and now, which BTW does affect us as a nation negatively. \n\nHey as long as Trump looks bad right? \n\nhttps://twitter.com/PressSec/status/954724753494986752/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Ftruthfeednews.com%2Fmad-dog-mattis-rallies-the-troops-after-dems-shut-down-government-for-illegals%2F",
"Ron Swanson chuckle. ",
">Read something else other than being a trumpet\n\nWtf does that mean? \n\nYou think 35 year old illegal Mexican adults aren't capable of getting citizenship. That's pretty racist. \n\nYou have nothing to offer other than insults. You've lost. ",
"I guess that you could say that wheel think of you always.",
"No. Killfiled.",
"#TacoBellStrong ",
"So tell me more about how are they supposed to get their citizenship? You're basically going around the purpose of DACA. But given that you're clueless, that's expected.",
"As an American, do I have a right to reside in Sweden as long as I feel like it? Canada? \n\nI would love for you to try and answer this question honestly.",
">Now you're moving the goal post. You claimed that the Free Market could have done it better, and when I questioned that position, you changed it \"why should we go to the moon?\"\n\nDifferent user. \n\n>Which -by asking- means you don't know about US Soft Power\n\nI don't think people should go to jail for refusing to fund their countries soft power. \n\n>This is simply false. [1] The private sector didn't have anything to do with the birth of the internet.\n\n[The history of the Internet begins with the development of electronic computers in the 1950s. Initial concepts of wide area networking originated in several computer science laboratories in the United States, United Kingdom, and France. The US Department of Defense awarded contracts as early as the 1960s, including for the development of the ARPANET project](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet)\n\nThe DOD identified networking technologies already in development then payed some of those groups to create arpnet. Private and public organizations were already developing the technology.\n\n>It's 50 years later and it still hasn't. The same rockets that send us to the moon can shoot missiles. But, I guess you'd be OK for the US to be decades behind other countries in tec development? You don't see a problem with US lagging behind Russia and China when it comes to warfare? You feel that would be a smart move for the US?\n\nYes. The US doesn't need to spend $600B+ on defense and $20B on Nasa. Weapons can be developed sufficient to defend the USA at a fraction of that cost. I mean we have nuclear arms, no one is attacking.\n\n>Well, there you go then.\n\nYes, make sure to never use roads to defend income tax, sales tax, etc...",
"Jesus you are racist.\n\ngo home and get in line, come into the United States legally, then get a green card, then become a citizen. Millions upon millions of others have done it. ",
"I’m a cripple. Just knock it off. We are human people. Sometimes we make jokes. ",
"Go home",
"Dude really? ",
"Ayyyy LMAO another clueless comment. They don't have a passport of Mexico in most cases. There's a reason a majority of them have never gone back. As I said, read up, you clueless muppet.",
"Do you have a disability? Because I’ve been bound to a wheelchair my entire life and from my 28 years of experience I can tell you pulled this out of your ass. ",
"That's what *she* said",
"I mean, your argument is essentially that the US would save a bunch of money if it didn't concern itself with having a modern army. And, I agree with that position, since it's objectively true.\n\nBut, I would point out that other countries **DO** have a modern army, and that might become an issue outside of simple economics.\n\n*\"I have all this gold, but I have to pay for all this security to protect it.... I KNOW! I'll* ***not*** *pay for any security, and then I'd have even MORE gold!\"*\n\nEdit: And those 'groups' you're taking about were mainly Universities, not \"the private sector.\" But, more to the point, they wouldn't have developed anything if the government hadn't paid them to do it.",
"Right? Humor is how we cope. Humor stops us from being completely overtaken with grief. ",
"Ha ha oh that's very creative. I've clearly underestimated you're ability to use a Google search. Man where to go after a sesquipedalian comment. You win my sesquipedalian friend 🤣",
">Well, you should look further, because then you would see that [87% of Americans support the DACA program, according to a CBS News poll conducted a few days ago](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-americans-support-daca-but-oppose-border-wall-cbs-news-poll/), and [75% of Americans support CHIP according to Kaiser Health Tracking](https://www.kff.org/health-reform/poll-finding/kaiser-health-tracking-poll-september-2017-whats-next-for-health-care/)\n\nYes? Because the mainstream media is known for valid, reliable, and unbiased polls?\n",
"Huh?",
"CBS News has a A- ranking for polling by 538. ",
"Nothing you said is true. The president promised he'd pass a bipartisan immigration bill, which was on the table and passed the house, and had the votes in the Senate. Then he went back on that and said he wouldn't sign it as is, even though it had the votes. The Republicans were gonna pass it until Trump went back on his promise. Don't spread lies. ",
"And giving her disability money. ",
"that is dis-analogous",
"That wasn’t an immigration bill. That was immigration legislature attached to a spending bill. Don’t spread lies.",
"It had the votes to pass and Trump fucked it. Can you respond to that?",
"Explain how",
"Yeah, I can. It never would have passed if it wasn’t attached to a spending bill.",
"That's funny. Last I checked we weren't Canada or Sweden. Last I checked this country was actually founded on what was essentially illegal immigration. \n\nBut either way, they do have their own special allowances and circumstances for people to circumvent traditional immigration protocols like this. So, cute example but it's backfired. ",
"Nobody gives a shit. ",
"They came to the meeting with Trump where he made the shithole comment saying they had the votes. And then he fucked it. It was going to pass. Those are facts.",
"Oh look, it's disabled",
"Is that why they consistently vote for a larger government with more overreaching powers while attempting to remove the right to keep and bear arms?",
"> I mean, your argument is essentially that the US would save a bunch of money if it didn't concern itself with having a modern army. And, I agree with that position, since it's objectively true.\n\nNo, it's that the USA spends way more money than it should. Making tax payers fund afghan, iraq, bases all over the world, etc... is wrong. \n\n>But, I would point out that other countries DO have a modern army, and that might become an issue outside of simple economics.\n\nMaybe look at military spending around the world, and see how ridiculous our funding is. We are subsidizing half the worlds defense, wasting trillions on poor political decisions to invade the latest 'problem' country. It's insane. \n\n>\"I have all this gold, but I have to pay for all this security to protect it.... I KNOW! I'll not pay for any security, and then I'd have even MORE gold!\"\n\nMore like I'll tell everyone this spending is to protect their homes even though only a minute fraction of the spending is for that, but if anyone complains about how much money I'm taking from them i'll make some stupid conceding analogy like \"I have all this gold, but I have to pay for all this security to protect it.... I KNOW! I'll not pay for any security, and then I'd have even MORE gold!\"",
"That's because neither side wheel will detach itself from the chair, if things won't go their way.",
"Wrong again friend.",
"Oh, it’s a *fact* that he made the shithole comment? That’s how I know you aren’t arguing in good faith. Have a good day.",
"really",
"The tax cut and, more importantly, the anticipation of tax reform benefited the economy tremendously via improved business confidence.\n\nLikewise, knowing that Trump wouldn't enact any more damaging overregulation, and wouldn't seek to push existing regulation, has been a boon to the economy. Sometimes a benefit of having one president is that he or she won't make the mistakes that the other candidate would have had they been elected.\n\nNow Trump is a clown and a jerk and maybe he accidentally did these beneficial things, but you know, just sayin.",
"Seriously? Have you been under a rock? It's part of why trumps whole shit hole comment came about. Here's trumps own propoganda machine talking about it:\n\nhttps://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/13/trump-critizes-democrats-over-daca-as-bipartisan-immigration-deal-next-week-seems-less-likely.amp.html",
"You're embarrassing yourself repeatedly. \n\nhttps://citizenpath.com/traveling-daca/\n\nhttps://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/consideration-deferred-action-childhood-arrivals-daca#travel",
">No, it's that the USA spends way more money than it should. \n\nHow do you come up with how much it \"should\" spend? Since to say \"it should spend less\" is vague to the point of meaninglessness....\n\n...As to the rest of your post, if you don't like the way the US taxes people, where would you rather live instead? Which country does taxation right, in your opinion?",
"Good for them?",
"The quote I posted is literally Trump talking about government shutdowns, how is that out of context?\n\nRemember, Trump and Schumer had a deal set. Then Trump got swayed by Stephen Miller and Mr. Art of the Deal backed out of it. Is is 4D chess, or is it that Trump just parrots the last person he talked to?\n\nRepublicans control all three branches and McConnell couldn't get his troops together to vote for this thing. Mike Lee, Rand Paul, Jeff Flake, and Lindsey Graham were not on board. But somehow this is all the Democrats fault, right?\n\nYou want talk about a circle jerk, just keep using that stupid alliterative hashtag.",
"Yeah, there's a research article out there that I'm too lazy to Google that says the majority of people are incapable of juggling more than like 60 relationships, anyways. ",
">So, cute example but it's backfired. \n\nSo you refuse to answer my question and then claim that it backfired? \n\nWhy don't you answer the fucking question? As an American, Do I have a right to reside in Sweden as long as I choose to? How about Canada?",
"Handicapped people with a sense of humor about it are inspiring. If I get a zit, I curl up in a ball and call out of work. ",
"For the lazy: I'm lazier than you, find it yourself you lazy ass",
"He never said shithole. The people in the meeting said he didnt and Kristen Neilson testified under oath last week that he never used that word.\n\nhttps://mobile.twitter.com/CBSNews/status/951877385628078080\n\nThe deal was between Schumer and McConnell. Last I checked there were more than two senators in congress. \n\nTrump has said repeatedly that he won't sign off on a deal unless he gets the wall, an end to chain migration and an end to the lottery system. \n\n\nPlease stop falling for fake news. ",
"I love Reddit when I'm baked.",
"You know he said it.",
"True, I certainly was. That’s extremely impressive about your stepmom though. ",
"Posting links for people who are already on DACA. Jesus Christ the delusion is astounding. How long do you think it takes for people to get a GC?",
"No, actually. I don’t know that he said it. In fact, the people I’m more inclined to believe say that he didn’t say it. Show me definitive proof that he said it. You can’t",
"The \"fake news\" campaign against it is propaganda. And even if he didn't say it, that was the meeting he had a change of heart and went back on his promise. That IS fact.",
"We're talking about DACA you stunod. You lost the argument a loooooooong time ago. Not sure why you keep coming back. ",
"GOVERNMENT RESIGNED 😂😂😂",
"I didn't answer because it's irrelevant. I don't feel like entertaining derailing questions. ",
"Your legs are shutdown like the government too",
"No. She said she didn't recall him saying that. Not that he didn't. Because you can't prove or disprove what people remember and they were playing it safe. But other people on both sides do recall him saying either shit hole or shit house.\n\nHaha. It was only a deal between the senate majority and senate minority leader! Totally not a bipartisan deal! What a statement. \n\nTrump said he would agree to whatever bipartisan deal they made. And then he went back on that. You stop pedaling fake news. ",
"It's out of context because the connotation of improper blame set onto Trump obviously. \nDon't mince my words, you know its selective and the lack of full understanding of why the shut is happening. \nOnly cheap jabs IMO that do take away and cloud the reasoning of why the shutdown is truly happening. \nYou will go to the grave presuming Schumer is logical and Trump is a squawking parrot. \nYou say the Republicans control all three branches yet you omit that the Senate does and should come to the bargaining table, yet they are nowhere to be found. \nCountless meetings not attended and the end result is now the government is shut down...\nLindsay Graham is a Dem in Republicans clothes. \nI'll just let us agree to disagree now, I don't believe we're going to convince each other of much. \nThanks for participating still.\nFor me, the hyper-focusing on certain things, opposed to the lack of forethought and complete understanding of why the shutdown happened is telling, and there isn't much of a conversation left to have. \n\n\n",
"that's him showing off his rippling bicep",
">How do you come up with how much it \"should\" spend? Since to say \"it should spend less\" is vague to the point of meaninglessness....\n\nAll foreign military intervention since wwii was a mistake, the majority of foreign bases around the world should be closed. The military should be for home defense only. If you look at military spending per capita many first world countries are secure at as low as 1/5th of US spending, so there's a starting reference. How do you feel about the trillions spent in Iraq and Afghan?\n\n>country does taxation right, in your opinion?\n\nMonaco, Bahamas, etc... always hilarious to see Americans defending losing 40% of their salaries to the state. Some people are born to be taken advantage of I guess. ",
"Considering Trump has given more aid to Israel than any other president so far and has Jewish senior advisors I doubt he has very much support from actual literal National Socialists.",
"Tax cut isn't enacted and perception and or anticipation of the presidents policy isn't legislation. Either way, all of the trends we've seen under Trump that benifit the economy started before people even thought he had a chance of winning. ",
"If you wanted to talk about the merits of DACA or executive orders or any of that other stuff you should have started there.\n\nFive things happened in your posts:\n\n* You grossly misrepresented the Democratic argument for not supporting the CR.\n* You expressed anti-immigrant bigotry\n* You uncritically repeated the transparent lies of the Republicans (who have no credibility whatsoever and lie about everything) as absolute truth.\n* You feigned non-partisanship while clearly expressing anti-Democratic sentiments.\n* You misrepresented my words.\n\nThis is the state of political argument in this country, where your side doesn't care about the truth if you can gain advantage from a lie.\n\nYou're dishonest and I don't care to waste anymore of my time responding to your dishonesty.",
"> Congress doesn’t pass bills in meetings with Presidents. The Dems could put forward any DACA bill they want for an up or down vote.\n\nMcConnell specifically refused to put forward any bill that Trump might not approve of, and he has no idea what Trump would approve of, so he blocked anything from going through. So, yeah, meetings with presidents are kind of an important part of the process.\n\nRepublicans have not voted on a clean bill to pass CHIP, just shitty bills with add-ons to further damage our healthcare system. They'd rather hold these kids hostage as a political game than actually pass this, which is why we're here now. \n\nAnd, again, March is now. ",
"Well you both aren’t running at the moment.",
"Especially if it's perfectly centered on my face.",
"That's cool, but in the absence of any other numbers, if we have to guess then it's safe to say that the vast majority of Americans are onboard. There's a reason why Republicans in Congress and in the White House have continually said that they're going to help these dreamers - because their voters want them to. But Republicans can instead *not* help them, at least for the time being, if they can somehow use this issue to make Dems look bad, which is their preferred strategy over decency.",
"It's not even the slightest bit your fault, but unfortunately that means it's not something you have much power to change. It's the ones who get offended on other people's behalf that ruin it for everyone else.",
"Nobody gives a shit.",
"Everyone that was present said he didnt say it. Just because you think something happened doesn't mean that it did. Stop falling for fake news.\n\nHe has said REPEATEDLY that he would only agree to a deal that includes the wall, an end to chain migration and an end to the lottery system. Check his twitter. ",
"Mmhmmhm hmmhm\n\nWRONG",
"I don't know what to tell you. Trumps economic policies as well as the anticipation of them, from midnight Election Day, have benefited the economy. You are in denial or lack understanding of how the economy works if you think otherwise.\n\nYes there was favorable momentum, coming off the trough of the deep recession in 2009, but that's independent of the benefit of his policies, relative to the alternatives.",
">* You grossly misrepresented the Democratic argument for not supporting the CR.\n\nI don't believe I ever even *mentioned* why they are not supporting it.\n\n>* You expressed anti-immigrant bigotry\n\nNope. Didn't do this either. Supporting border security and/or merit based immigration is neither anti-immigration nor is it bigoted.\n\n>* You uncritically repeated the transparent lies of the Republicans (who have no credibility whatsoever and lie about everything) as absolute truth.\n\nNo clue what this is even referencing. Everything I have said is 100% factual.\n\n>* You feigned non-partisanship while clearly expressing anti-Democratic sentiments.\n\nIn my entire voting history, I have not once voted Republican. Just because I have concluded the Democrats are wrong about something does not mean I support Republicans across the board. This is literally a false dichotomy fallacy.\n\n>This is the state of political argument in this country, where your side doesn't care about the truth if you can gain advantage from a lie.\n\nCool, accuse me of lying without citation and then peace out. Classy.\n\n>You're dishonest and I don't care to waste anymore of my time responding to your dishonesty.\n\nAnd you have no arguments that are not logically fallacious. You are fake news. Good bye.",
"> All foreign military intervention since wwii was a mistake, the majority of foreign bases around the world should be closed. The military should be for home defense only. If you look at military spending per capita many first world countries are secure at as low as 1/5th of US spending, so there's a starting reference.\n\nWhy? Why do you feel the US \"should\" spend as much as the other countries? Do you feel that might cause world destabilization if the US suddenly did that? How would you offset the economic advantages of selling our obsolete weapons?\n\nI mean, I could say \"the US should do things cheaper, more efficient, better, faster...\" and everyone would agree. But, I'm just piling on positive adjectives without a real understanding. With such a large problem, we probably should start with specific examples. A 4/5's reduction would mean we'd have to pull out of a lot of places. Pulling out of Afghanistan wouldn't be enough. Do you think that the US should cut costs by pulling its troops out of places like South Korea as well?\n\n>Monaco, Bahamas, etc... always hilarious to see Americans defending loosing 40% of their salaries to the state. Some people are born to be taken advantage of I guess.\n\nSo, you've already moved there then? You're not one of the ones \"born to be taken advantage of\" I assume? Cuz, your post history suggests you're Canadian, and they pay comparable taxes to us \"suckers\" in the US.....",
"Analogy accepted.\n\nBrain = Trump\n\nLegs = Democrats and McCain",
"🍆💦",
">the worst president ever\n\nYeah, much, much worse than any of the ones that actively supported slavery and genocide, or entered un-winnable wars under false pretences.",
"Sure, but Trumpsters aren't libertarians. If anything it's a whole new party, as even many republicans and libertarians have turned away. Hell, if Trumpism could be a religion, his followers would probably join.",
"✍️(👁👃👁)👉 🍷🐀?",
"I'll take your word for it. Do you have a place where you get a succinct, unbiased break down of this stuff? Or do you just look harder than I do? Or are you just smarter than I am?",
"> Let's just agree to disagree, shall we? \n\nOf course. That is always my hope. I've been getting in a lot of political debates recently and I have tried (almost always successfully) to keep things civil. My main objective is to educate people who don't know what they are talking about. So thank you for educating me, as I clearly didn't know what I was talking about.\n",
"Typically liberal *IL*logical thinking. You: \"McConnell specifically refused to put forward any bill Trump didn't approve AND McConnell doesn't know what Trump would approve.\" The AND in your statement disqualifies your entire statement.\n\nThe spending bill that the Republicans including McConnell and Trump supported would absolutely fund CHIP... and the rest of our government, and the Dems have killed it. Chucky refuses to support any spending bill; thus closing down the government and cutting CHIP until such a bill does in fact pass. It has nothing to do with a special CHIP bill, or any bill you would refer to as \"shitty.\" DACA doesn't expire until March. Yet the Dems care more about 3,000,000 Illegal immigrants in need of relief by March than they do 9,000,000 Americans on CHIP who need relief right now.\n\nReports indicate that the meeting with Trump was in order to discuss a bipartisan agreement, and that it actually went very well and such an agreement was reached, until the Democrat Party and the MSM decided that \"muh racist\" was a better narrative.\n\nChucky knows exactly what he is doing. And you know what he is doing. You are regurgitating Democratic talking points. Your handlers own you right now. Tool.",
"Oh look at all the butt hurt Trumptards. I thrive on your tears. ",
"Your anecdotal evidence is different from mine I guess. I've known plenty of disabled people that would never joke about it.\n\nNo need to get so angry.",
">Why do you feel the US \"should\" spend as much as the other countries?\n\nIt's a reference point. Its ridiculously obvious that we can spend much less and be safe. Wasting trillions in the last two wars was just stupid. You think that was money well spent? \n\n>Do you feel that might cause world destabilization if the US suddenly did that?\n\nNo. Maybe some European and asian countries would have to spend a bit more for their own protection. Maybe not. \n\n>How would you offset the economic advantages of selling our obsolete weapons?\n\nI wouldn't. Why do you think citizens should be forced to subsidize these economic advantages captured almost entirely by a few? Making savings illegal would have 'economic advantages', doesn't make it smart. \n\n>I assume? Cuz, your post history suggests you're Canadian, and they pay comparable taxes to us \"suckers\" in the US.....\n\nNo, I want to fix my counties. Do you tell everyone who want's universal health care to move to Canada,Europe, et...? Are you against any change? The leave argument is absurd, stop using it. American too. ",
"Why are the comments so crap",
">I'll just let us agree to disagree now\n\nBacking out after you put words in my mouth about Schumer. The only thing I said about Schumer was that he and Trump had an agreement that Trump backed out of. I made no judgement calls about Schumer being logical or anything else about him. I see that while I'm replying to you you posted the Schumer video. Once again the only thing I ever said about Schumer was that he and Trump had an agreement. The only thing that video proves is that they are both full of shit, and that you don't want to listen to that when it's about Trump clearly being full of shit too. Now I have said something about Schumer, and it's not the word you were cheaply putting in my mouth.\n\n>It's out of context because the connotation of improper blame set onto Trump obviously. \n\nBasically it's out of context because you don't like it. Trump voters voted for someone who said this\n\n[“Well, very simply, you have to get everybody in a room. You have to be a leader. The president has to lead. He’s got to get [the Speaker of the House] and everybody else in a room, and they have to make a deal. You have to be nice, and be angry, and be wild, and cajole, and do all sorts of things. But you have to get a deal.\n\nUnfortunately, [the president] has never been a dealmaker. That wasn’t his expertise before he went into politics. And it’s obviously not his expertise now. But you have to get the people in the room, and you have to get a deal that’s good for everybody and good for the country.”] (https://twitter.com/dncpress/status/954064987013738496)\n\nTrump had very clear statements about how he felt government shutdowns were the fault of the President. I can only assume that Trump voters took that into account when they voted for him. If Trump believes that a government shutdown is due to lack of leadership, then where is the leadership right now. [Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible. @realDonaldTrump 1:01 PM - 8 Nov 2013](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/398887965302091776)\n\nNow today, he is not taking any responsibility. He is blaming democrats. And since the shutdown he has not taken any meetings or appeared in public. He is not taking any active role in leading, making deals, or accepting any responsibility. This goes clearly against his stated positions.\n\n\n\nFacts you just can't get around -\n\nTrump is the first president to reside over a government shutdown when his party controls the house, the senate, and the white house. This has never happened before.\n\nThis is the shortest amount of time in a presidency to a government shutdown.\n\nNo matter what you say, Lindsay Graham is still a Republican, and there were 4 others that joined him.\n\nAnd you can post that memo from Matthis all you want.\n\n[Clair McCaskell was the one who tried to keep funding for the military and Mitch McConnell objected] (https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4710181/senator-mcconnell-objects-military-pay-protection)",
"So wait. It's irrelevant when it's Obama enacting policy but relevant when trump hasn't actually done anything? Wut? ",
"The government can still run if it wanted to",
"I said cute, not hot or sexy, also she was about 13 in 2013, it's 2018, if I were perving her, she would be legal now.",
"“I did not hear that word used,” Nielsen said under oath, about “shithole.” When asked if Trump used a similar term or vulgar language to describe certain countries, she wouldn’t deny it. “The conversation was very impassioned,” she said. “The president used tough language in general, as did other congressmen in the room.”\n\nAnonymous Republican sources have pushed the story that Trump in fact used the phrase “shithouse countries.” According to the Washington Post’s Josh Dawsey, Robert Costa, and Ashley Parker, Sens. Tom Cotton (R-AR) and David Perdue (R-GA) told the White House that’s what they remember Trump saying in the meeting.\n\nI usually find that those who scream fake news first are usually trying to pedal it themselves. It's an easy deflection. \n",
"Yeah, for now. ",
">Anonymous sources\n\nGtfoh. Those have always worked out so well for you guys. \n\nOnly the left would be upset over something as stupid as this.\n\nThis is why you lost the election. ",
"Policies do see results years down the line. They're criticizing him harsher because he's a twat at times.",
"> It's a reference point. Its ridiculously obvious that we can spend much less and be safe. Wasting trillions in the last two wars was just stupid. You think that was money well spent?\n\nAgain, this is vague to the point of meaningless. If you're asking if I agree 100% with the way the US government does *everything,* the answer is trivially \"no, I don't.\" But, so what?\n\n>No. Maybe some European and asian countries would have to spend a bit more for their own protection. Maybe not.\n\nREALLY? Like, you don't think North Korea would take over South Korea, and Israel would get bombed into oblivion, to just name a few? Or, do you just not count that as \"destabilizing?\"\n\n>No, I want to fix my counties. Do you tell everyone who want's universal health care to move to Canada,Europe, et...? Are you against any change? The leave argument is absurd, stop using it. American too.\n\nUmm..... you just called me (and everyone else in the US) a sucker for paying for 40% tax (which is a [pretty high estimation anyway](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_the_United_States)), and are now implying that you're somehow NOT, even though you pay the same? Have you heard the term \"[special pleading](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_pleading)\" before?\n\nI guess you'll have to explain why I and others are \"[born to be taken advantage of](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7ryut7/run_better_than_government/dt1im3o/)\" but you're not. Why are you special in this regard? Is it simply because you, like everyone else, doesn't feel the US government is 100% efficient? Because, if that's the only requirement, ***no one*** is \"born to be taken advantage of.\" Yet, we all still pay because -while the US might not be prefect- we like it for various reasons more than Monaco (though, I don't know why you even picked that country, [they pay on averaging 35% to the government](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco#Taxes)....)",
"He looks dumber every day as the quality of life in the US goes down...",
"You didn't answer the question because you have no principles that guide your life. Everything about you is Guided by hysterical emotions.",
"The only quality that’s gone down is the part you associate with and pay attention to. But ok.",
"> How many under age children have you raped so far CGRCC?\n\nI really hope your reddit persona is a far cry from how you are in person because holy smokes. That's some seriously socially dysfunctional shit man.\n\n",
"hes the pedophile not me.",
"... Did you ignore the two people cited by name directly after? How convenient. ",
"Also, this comment is a tangent you took us on. It has nothing to do with my my original point. You took us on the is tangent and even are being proven as dishonest and or completely unaware on your own tangent. The fact of the matter is there was a bipartisan agreement. ",
"Says the guy using ad hominems as their main argument at this point. Yawn. ",
"Would still smash ",
">f you're asking if I agree 100% with the way the US government does everything, the answer is trivially \"no, I don't.\" But, so what?\n\nYou refuse to answer the concrete examples. Iraq and Afghan, good use of tax money? At almost 5 trillion, that would cost every working American $32,000! More, since 7% of employed people work for the government. Of course we pile it on the debt. Much more responsible.\n\nThose are just the large scale operations. You think the USA spending 5 times per capita over many European countries is a sign of good spending? You want me to list every retarded op the military undertakes? that could take a long time. \n\n>you don't think North Korea would take over South Korea?\n\nUh no. South korea: 50 million ppl, $1.2 trillion GDP. North Korea: 25 million ppl, $33 billion gdp. They can take care of themselves, and if they mismanage their way into being taken over by North Korea, that's their problem. \n\n> Israel would get bombed into oblivion\n\nThey can make up the 4billion in aid, which isn't even included in official military spending. \n\n>Umm..... you just called me (and everyone else in the US) a sucker for paying for 40% tax\n\nEveryone, like you, defending or advocating this level or more of taxation is a sucker. I do/did not recommend not paying taxes and ending up in jail, that would be unwise.\n\n>which is a pretty high estimation anyway\n\nIt's not. You're going to have to do your own research, it varies a lot by states, but once income, sales, property, corporate (passed on to consumers in price hikes), gas and excise, sin taxes, the host of other small taxes, etc... are worked in the average working person in the USA is absolutely losing 40% of their income. \n\n>Why are you special in this regard? Is it simply because you, like everyone else, doesn't feel the US government is 100% efficient? \n\nI'm not. Many people are fighting our insane government and taxation, they are not suckers. People like you who have been convinced its necessary are. Its not a matter of not being 100% efficient, they system is full on parasitic, and the parasite has convinced the fools it's beneficial. Comical really. ",
"*Curb your enthusiasm ",
"It's not an ad hominem to say that you have no principles if you can't answer a question that requires principles to be answered honestly. \n",
"So this was for Obama? ",
"*canned laughter ",
"I love this more than i love breathing. ",
"Its not the people it the attempt to enact \"good\" though a monopoly on violence using government power which is ultimately corrupting. \n\nhttps://imgur.com/Quq4T8O",
"Why should he sign a bill that grants benefits to illegals over military veterans... The Democrats wouldn't back down over the benefits for them. The Democrats are traitors. ",
"The bill should be stand alone issues voted on separately. Don't make children's health coverage be held hostage by an unrelated DACA bill. This is cheap manipulation. Tacking all sorts of unrelated shit onto bills like this makes them easier to fail.",
"Nobody gives a shit.",
"It's not funny, and a piss poor attempt at satire if that's what it is. You're retarded if that's what you believe",
"It's kinda funny (or rather... not) that you can pull this shirt out once in a while...",
"Except for the fact that the bill at hand had nothing to do with veterans, so you're arguing a strawman. Try to distract as much as you want but the president still went back on his promise to sign a bipartisan bill.\n\nEdit: literally you're entire comment history is trolling so it's not worth even giving you the time of day.",
">You refuse to answer the concrete examples.\n\nI *explicitly* complain you're not asking concrete questions, and you come back by criticizing me for not giving concrete answers.....\n\n> Iraq and Afghan, good use of tax money? You think the USA spending 5 times per capita over many European countries is a sign of good spending? \n\nAgain, this is trivially \"No, I don't.\" But, that doesn't mean I agree that we suddenly pay 1/5th what we pay and let North Korea take over South Korea, Israel get bombed, Russia take Syria... There is a HUGE variation between \"the US should pay less\" and \"the US should pay 4/5th less and abandon all of its allies.\" Which is why I don't find the way you ask questions meaningful. \n\n>You want me to list every retarded op the military undertakes? \n\nWell, if you want me to agree with your 4/5th number, yes. I'd want to understand *exactly* what you're proposing. Otherwise, what are we even talking about? [More betterness and less worseness?](https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20120821.gif) Then, Ok, sure, I want more betterness and less worseness...\n\n>Uh no. South korea: 50 million ppl, $1.2 trillion GDP. North Korea: 25 million ppl, $33 billion gdp. They can take care of themselves, and if they mismanage their way into being taken over by North Korea, that's their problem.\n\nProbably comparing military readiness would be be better than comparing GDP..... I mean, you're really playing into the strawman libertarian stereotype if you think comparing the GDP and raw human capital is the end all be all in a war between two countries smaller than New England. If it was going to be a long war, you'd have a better argument. But, when one side has 50x the troops, not to mention nukes... I mean, [NK reportedly has 60 warheads](http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/05/north-korea-testing-nuclear-weapons-170504072226461.html). They could kill everyone in SK *tomorrow* if they felt the need. I'm not sure GDP would be important at that point....\n\n>Everyone, like you, defending or advocating this level or more of taxation is a sucker. I do/did not recommend not paying taxes and ending up in jail, that would be unwise.\n\nOr simply moving, it seems. \n\n>It's not. You're going to have to do your own research it varies a lot by states, but once income, sales, property, corporate (passed on to consumers in price hikes), gas and excise, sin taxes, the host of other small taxes, etc... are worked in the average working person in the USA is absolutely losing 40% of their income.\n\nIf you're counting all that, you'll have to name a different country that \"does it right.\" People in Monaco pay ~35% social security + ~12.5% Sales tax, which is more than 40%.\n\n>I'm not. Many people are fighting our insane government and taxation, they are not suckers. People like you who have been convinced its necessary are. Its not a matter of not being 100% efficient, they system is full on parasitic, and the parasite has convinced the fools it's beneficial. Comical really.\n\nYou really like making a bunch of unjustified assumptions about people, huh? Where are you getting all that about me? I'm not sure I want to debate someone that's going to make up a position for me, and then call me a \"fool.\" Why don't you cut down on the [strawman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man) and [*ad hominems*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem). Or, I can just not interact with you. If you want to beat up a strawman you made out of whole cloth yourself, you don't need me.",
"This whole thing is just too engineered for karma. Downvote.",
"Is it wierd that I am watching the office right now while s rolling through comments and see this? (Goodbye toby episode)",
"One republican senator rejecting to military pay? \n\nI'd say it fits in pretty nicely. Remember in my comment where I said 95% of republican senators voted to keep the government running?\n\nThere were 5% who voted against keeping it running.\n\nThe magic of mathematics.",
"Just checked it out, and it's amazing. I think I'll unsub from r/pics now ",
"Way to delete your comment above like a coward.",
"Anyone seeking more info might also check here:\n\ntitle | points | age | /r/ | comnts\n:--|:--|:--|:--|:--\n[Run better than government](http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7ryut7/run_better_than_government/) ^**B** | 91029 | 12^hrs | pics | 2024\n[Running better...](http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/6g782x/running_better/) | 669 | 7^mos | funny | 21\n[She's damn right](http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/6g68wj/shes_damn_right/) | 72 | 7^mos | pics | 19\n[She's got a point](http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/4wcuuf/shes_got_a_point/) | 3648 | 1^yr | pics | 741\n\n*[Source: karmadecay](http://karmadecay.com/results/u9980414) (B = bigger)*",
"Murdered and enslaved a lot of people.",
">North Korea take over South Korea\n\nWouldn't happen, south korea would simply have to invest in defending themselves, which they are more than capable of. \n\n>Israel get bombed \n\nThey get bombed with or without us. They can make up the $4B.\n\n>Russia take Syria\n\nRussia helped syria more than the US lol. \n\n>I'd want to understand exactly what you're proposing\n\nSlowly remove ourselves from our position of the military subsidiy of the West and parts of Aisa/ME, while allowing them to build their own defense. Then be like the rest of the first world and generally stay the fuck out of other countries affairs. invest in home defense only. \n\n>Probably comparing military readiness would be be better than comparing GDP..... \n\nThey're not ready because they rely on us. Pull out over the time needed for them to replace our role. It's not difficult. We can allow our MIC companies to sell them warheads. They have the money. \n\n>Or simply moving, it seems.\n\nThat was your genius recommendation. We should all move unless we agree with the state of affairs completely if we extend your logic. [Ergo_decedo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergo_decedo)\n\n>If you're counting all that, you'll have to name a different country that \"does it right.\" People in Monaco pay ~35% social security + ~12.5% Sales tax, which is more than 40%.\n\nMost don't earn in Monaco, but its irrelevant. I don't have to name a country, I never advocated moving. The entire first world is taken over by vastly over reaching governments. There is no perfect example, doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to fix out country. \n\nI didn't ad hominem, i explained why i think you're a fool etc, i didn't attack you as an argument. Only possible straw man is if you don't agree with our level of taxation, and its a reasonable assumption from your writing.\n \n ",
"Backpay means nothing if you have a child in the hospital using up the last of your savings when the money stops coming in - despite the fact you're putting your life on the line. It's shockingly disgusting how democrats feel it's somehow correct behavior to treat the military. Shocking.",
"Got it, anyone that disagrees with you on taxes is a \"fool.\" And, you got Kim Jong Un and me all figured out.\n\nHave fun debating yourself.",
"but she doesnt run at all",
"You might want to look into McConnell's role before dubbing him simply \"one Republican Senator\". Some relevant info:\n\n>Elected by the appropriate party members, the Senate Majority Leader acts as the main spokesperson for the majority party.\n\n>The Senate Majority Leader is responsible of scheduling and managing all of the legislative matters that are to be proposed on the floor of the Senate. \n\nHe blocked the vote from happening, and he's the agreed upon Spokesperson for the Republican party. This is not just \"one Senator\" rejecting Military pay.",
"So we enjoy lower taxes and higher wages for thousands of Americans for the next 10 years and when the tax cuts expire tell congress to renew them and if they don’t we vote for someone else who will. \n\nEven if the tax cuts don’t get renewed, I’d rather have a 10 year tax break over nothing at all. \n\nComplaining the companies get a permanent break is irrelevant. First off the Democrats said they wouldn’t support the tax reform efforts, so the republicans had to work with what they could pass on their own. But more importantly who cares about the companies. \n\nYou have two options, pay less in taxes or pay more taxes. You were given a tax break but if you are upset by that, you can still pay more money by donating to the US treasury to pay down the national debt or donate directly to a charity or state run agency you support with your extra money. Or if those options don’t sound good, you could use your extra money to mail thousands upon thousands of angry letters to congress to express your anger at lower taxes because they aren’t guaranteed to be permanent. ",
"How did he block the vote from happening.. when the vote obviously happened?",
"Genuinely made me laugh. ",
"I'm talking about the vote to keep military pay in the event of shutdown.\n\nMcCaskill asked for unanimous consent, and was shot down by McConnell.",
"It's true even when the government isn't shut down",
"So yes, he did object to that vote. He's obviously not being the best spokesman for the party considering 95% of his constituents disagreed with him. Myself and others expect the issue of military pay will be resolved by the end of the month, once Mcconnell realizes how out of touch he's being with his party. It's being highly publicized that he's rejected the vote and with that publicity will come a metric ton of public pressure. We'll see how it turns out.",
"Lemon",
"Alright, cool. BTW, I'm not trying to blame this whole thing on Republicans; I truly feel like this is one of the times where both parties share blame for not being able to compromise and reach consensus...I just think that blaming lack of military pay on Democrats is pretty disingenuous.",
"Well, to be fair the vote *was* cast. And it's clear in that vote that the party spokesman is *not* in line with his party. It's true that there were 5% of senators who voted against pay, and the spokesman happened to be part of that small fraction of representatives. Only 5% of democratic senators voted for military pay.. So I don't feel that what I've said is disingenious at all.",
"It wasn't me, it was the fascist fuckkks above us. My stance stays. The American elite is the left over of the Nazi era and they deserve death!",
"Thanks Obama!",
"> I can be anywhere, anytime for you, and I can calm you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my chess set.\n\nFucking amazing. I appreciated this so much.",
"The most efficient and Well ran insurance is a joke huh",
"> Don’t send your kids to work.\n\nYou're not *allowed* to send your kids to work any more.\n\n*Because of the government*...",
"Oh ok. Welp, at least you're consistent with your murder-laden belief system. Also, please don't murder anyone.",
"Wha-wha-what!!? She’s totally micro-machines. Major league swag-out for this test tube gub-gub snail woman yo.",
"Unlike her, the government will be getting back on its feet.",
"There's only 51 Republicans in the Senate, is what he's saying. They only needed 9 Democrats to say yes",
"those things that prove him wrong are fake news because",
"it is objectively not true",
"> Whoa, one man's trash is another man's treasure. Don't talk about trash like that.\n\nCan you reread what I said and explain it to me? I feel like people are really missing the joke.",
"Awesome. Yes, please ask her! I have Reddit, FB, Email, and Skype. If that's not good enough, I am flexible and am willing to use whatever works for her.\n\nI'll message you. ",
"Oh hey, Sue Heck!",
"I'm gonna make a super sonic man out of you!",
"But do you owe $13 trillion in debt?",
"Ugh it isn't efficient or we'll run, hence it being a joke. ",
"/r/polipics",
"Spez is a Nazi sympathiser for letting this bullshit fester. Just yesterday they upvoted a picture of Obama being lynched to the front page.\n\nVery fine people indeed.",
"Hi Russian troll o/",
"Many people don't want a tax cut... Many people want higher taxes and better services.",
"Which is probably why he wants those services...?",
"So it can fuck them over even more? How are the dems going to pay for a social health care system with a tax cut? I mean, that's their goal.",
"The left in the US lost the election due to the US not being a democracy. If the people had a free and fair vote for president instead of the undemocratic electoral college then trump would not be in right now. How is it that I, as a European, know more than you about your own political system?",
"I want to be her friend. ",
"You cannot use an undemocratic election as a source for people's views because it does not use people's views as a variable.",
"The shirt is available [here](http://t1p.de/29jm)",
"Dems were voted in by people that want more social services, not less taxes. The republicans should have put forward a deal that more democrats want to vote yes on...",
"I posted some, care to take a look?",
"Maybe if you guys were actually a democracy people wouldn't argue so much as their views would be heard? It seems to work for many European countries...",
"Dems are usually worse off than republicans due to not taking as many bribes. This would lead to more politicians taking bribes and possibly the dems signing this current terrible bill. No thanks.",
"Blaine the republicans that put through a terrible bill. Ever think that maybe if they put through one that more democrats like the look of then more democrats would sign It?\n\nIt's called a vote for a reason.",
"If an election wasn't democratic to begin with them I would personally say that it is the people that lost the election.",
"Sweden actually has really lax immigration laws and most \"illegal\" aliens in the US would be legal in Sweden.\n\nEver thought about making it easier to become an immigrant? Then there wouldn't be as many illegal immigrants. Simple.",
"I am British and have a right to reside in Sweden as long as I feel like it currently. That's what you get when countries work together instead if building walls.",
"Find a job in Sweden and you can live there as long as you want. That is the answer to your question.",
"Nice burn",
"What a dumb fucking post",
"LoL \"you are making valid arguments that I don't agree with so I'm gonna chalk it up to trolling\". You're pathetic. If Democrats want to shut down the government over benefits for ILLEGALS then the Democrats are traitors. The help we should give illegal non citizens is help onto the deportation bus. ",
">Just yesterday they upvoted a picture of Obama being lynched to the front page.\n\nThat is literally a straight up lie.\n\n[That user who submitted it to AHS submitted it FOUR MINUTES after said post was made.](https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/7riuqh/holy_shit/).\n\nPost made: 2:57pm. [Post archived](http://archive.is/E1SUS): 2:59pm. AHS submission made: 3:01pm. Seems pretty suspicious. Almost as if OP controlled both accounts...\n\nAnd look, here's the link to the post itself: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/7ritu7/releasethememo/\n\n5 points. 58% upvoted.\n\nStop lying.\n\nWhy the fuck you lyin'\n\nEdit: Shoutout to /u/LatieI for calling me a fascist for...outing him as a liar. Well, since you can't spell \"fascist\" without \"facts\", then he must be right.",
"I don't understand, our government actually runs despite a temporary shutdown, this young fella appears to be bound to a wheelchair and can't walk. Am I missing something here?",
"Don't get me wrong, it's still by no means correct behavior. \n\nI was just clarifying that other guys point. \n",
"The shirt is available [here](http://t1p.de/29jm)",
"The shirt is available [here](http://t1p.de/29jm)",
"Quit arguing with them. The double standard is one of many weapons of the leftist liberal. ",
"Would.",
"It's a zeta if you really want to know",
"*weller",
"You're bad :)",
"Hold on. The Donald is not ALLOWED on the front page",
"Front page of their own sub, my bad.",
"Yeah, not what I said at all. ",
"Lmao \"works for European countries\" that are like 1/30 of our size and population",
"Trump said he'd consider keeping DACA if the border wall were considered. Schumer proposed a deal that includes the option of funding the wall. Exactly what Trump wanted, yet he still refused. Yes, Trump is definitely the one being unreasonable here.",
"What I’m saying is .. in lieu of a government body telling you not to, you could simply just not do it. \n\nKids still labor now they just can’t be legally paid. ",
">Hold up, are you seriously claiming to be unaware of the recession that started in Bush's final term and was in full swing when Obama took office? \n\nNever even implied that. Do you not know what moving goalposts means? ",
"Yes , that's why he won. A majority of people voted for Donald Trump",
"That's still a lot of people",
"> in lieu of a government body telling you not to, you could simply just not do it.\n\nBut people *won't*. We KNOW they won't. That's literally why governments had to bring in child labor laws.\n\n\nAnd anti-slavery laws. And anti-discrimination laws.\n\nBecause people WON'T just do the right thing out of the kindness of their hearts. They should, but as has been shown again and again for millenia, they just *won't.*",
"So ... make sure they can’t legally pay kids for their work 🤷🏻♂️ that makes sense",
"> WRONG\n\n",
"cannot understand .",
"The nation could afford a lot more of the big government stuff when the trillions parked overseas are repatriated, hundreds of billions more invested in the US which is now invested overseas, and many more people working and contributing. Even at a lower taxable rate, all of this equals a great deal more money for the coffers.",
"“I want higher taxes cause government always does everything right with my money way better than I ever could”.... says only the seriously deranged left.",
"Or maybe people could stop being sad sacks of shit over such menial things.",
"Okay, you're right. Millions of nazis in the US. Nazis around every corner. Be scared.",
"And what does allowing people on DACA to travel do anything to your argument? Jesus Christ, are you retarded?\n\nEdit: Oh wait, you are a regular r/The_Dumpster poster. That answers my second question.",
"But muh popular vote!!!",
"\\*crickets*",
"Regardless of your opinion, no non-retarded person can deny that u/golslyr's statement was untrue. Though to be fair expecting a Trump worshiper to be non-retarded is probably unrealistic.",
"So memes",
"What on earth are you trying to argue?\n\nChild labor laws exist for a reason, anti-slavery laws exist, anti-discrimination laws exist. All because of THE GOVERNMENT.",
"What?",
"Nobody gives a shit.",
"Not sure why you responded. Probably to save face but that ship sailed a long time ago. \n\nYou're claiming they can't leave because they don't have a passport but they can go home anytime they want. Read the links I gave you... \n\nWhats the dumpster and why are you so scared of it? ",
"I was joking about the fact that he didn't show any links 17 hours later. He probably doesn't have any to begin with.",
"It's a question that has no relevance that was never really a question because you know the answer. It's a straw man argument that's easy for you to tackle and why you've presented it. Because it's easier to take down than the real conversation at hand. And ad hominem attacks are easier than a real conversation too. You've turned this is to a feel good farce for yourself and I don't really have the time for it. ",
"What double standard was presented? ",
"more like \"I want higher taxes so people without a job and people with health conditions can have a decent quality of life\"",
"Democracy has nothing to do with land or population.",
"Ayyyy LMAO they can leave but how do they come back, Einstein? You realise you need a passport to apply for a US Visa right? Get out of your basement and you'd know probably.",
"Like I said, they get back in line like all the other non citizens wishing to immigrate. Do it legally. Are you ok? Why do you support criminals?",
"Yeah it’s a shame when people blatantly lie",
"Not \"totally incompetent\", but call me back when US Government work similar or better than Canadian government.\n\nA lot of things can be improved.",
"I've been to the DMV, so I know this is all bullshit.",
"In Swedenland the old budget just gets reapplied if they fail to get a new one through. So the politicians are scared of failed negotiations because they make it so obvious that we don’t need them and that the auto-pilot is good enough.",
"Did you hear that from your liberal arts professor in the \"fuck white people\" shirt?",
"I always love when other people have to resort to correcting my grammar, especially when it's [incorrect](http://www.grammar-monster.com/easily_confused/youre_your.htm). \n\nIt was a play on you saying \"My bad!\" I was agreeing with you. Had you said \"I am bad!\", I would have said \"you're.\" ",
"> thousands of government workers \n\nMillions.",
"Military is paid on the 1st and 15th of every month. They were just paid 7 days ago and have 10 more days to settle the shutdown before they're \"not paid.\" People need to realize this. Also, many of the military credit unions have protections for this sort of thing that helps them avoid lapsing on bills and mortgage payments if they don't receive pay.\n\nPeople need to stop using the military as a political talking point. They're going to be just fine.",
"> One republican senator rejecting to military pay? \n\nThe Majority leader...\n\nHe says what can and can't be brought to the floor for a vote.\n\nJesus, you're one step away from claiming McConnell is just a coffee boy.",
"It *was* brought to the floor for vote though.. That's why everyone is reporting on how the house and senate voted... Because... there was a vote.",
"He blocked the vote from happening on a separate bill that would guarantee pay for military in the event of a government shutdown.",
"> He's obviously not being the best spokesman for the party \n\nAnd yet, he is their spokesman as he was voted to be their leader by his fellow members.",
"Again, if your wife was at home with a sick child at the hospital and just spent the last of the savings on groceries for the week.. I'm sure you'd have a different mindset.",
"And yet, the vote happened.. so I'm not sure what type of influence he really had in that matter. The blame falls on the democrats, with certainty. ",
"Mass murder of other countries civilians also exists because of THE GOVERNMENT. \n\n",
"Maybe they don't feel like it. Which makes many more nuanced questions rather pointless.",
"I used a cultural phrase exactly as it's suppose to be used. \"My bad\" is the line. \n\nYour bad, is a different cultural reference. So you're bad was indeed correct. \n\nThough I'm using a Nick with \"Ain't\" in it, so you honestly think I give a fuck?\n\nI'm more shocked this convo still has life. When it turns out this post was just a giant pissy fit from the mods of r/pics. Though everyone on reddit lately seems to be suffering from a sore ass, much butt hurt going around. ",
"WRONG",
"Lol your insults are only hurting your credibility. \n\nHow does anyone get in line? There is a process. \n https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/learners/apply-citizenship\n\nWhat is the dumpster? I've never heard of that. ",
"Hahahahaha this is amazing. \n\nRead the naturalization eligibility worksheet. It'll help dispel your delusion. \n\nCan't believe someone can be this clueless yet lecture people LMFAO.",
"Yes it only proves my points I've already listed.\n\nWhat is the dumpster? ",
"No it does not. Oh my God hahahahahaha.\n\nNaturalization requires a permanent alien registration card also known as a GC. A GC is obtained when someone comes in on a visa with immigration intent. How do you get a visa? When you have a passport of a foreign country. Teaching someone immigration 101 is fun.\n\nIt's funny how you think that dreamers had a path to citizenship yet NONE decided to pursue it LMAO.",
"Why is anarchy a bad thing? Anarchy != Chaos",
"The left has no sense of humor any more. ",
"We do. Some of us are Black, so, that helps.\n\n(Don't worry, I got the joke. I laughed!)",
"Haha you're killing me. Once a misinformed racist, always a misinformed racist. \n\ntheir less than legal status does not preclude them from gaining lawful residency and subsequent citizenship through other means, i.e., enlisted in the military and marrying a citizen.\n\n1. By getting married to a US citizen. After marriage, they will adjust their status to get temporary green cards, then later a permanent green card and after 3 years of marriage to the citizen, they will be eligible to apply for citizenship.\n\n2. Through employment. An employer can sponsor them for H1b and then can sponsor them again some years later for permanent residency and after 5 years citizenship.\n\n3. The DACA adults with a High School diploma or at least a 2 year work experience could enter the US diversity lottery and should they win, they can adjust their status to permanent residency and after 5 years, they will get citizenship.\n\n4. Another method is sponsorship by a US citizen child, brother or sister or US citizen parent (s) of the DACA recipient. If the petition is approved, they will get permanent residency and 5 years later, citizenship.\n",
"Has nothing to do with Trump. Schumer is twisting the rules to push through his agenda and in the process killing Vets.",
"This picture must have been between 2009-16",
"I completely agree with you that partisan politics are getting in the way of actually doing any good (or just doing anything). Just was curious about the numbers. ",
"Nobody gives a shit.",
"Oye LMAO more cluelessness.\n\n1) GC by marriage still requires a foreign passport. BTW are you saying they should marry a US citizen to gain citizenship? That's fraud, you imbecile.\n2) H1B again requires a foreign passport.\n3) Diversity lottery does not involve Mexico. Oh my God, the delusion.\n4) Their parents are illegal citizens. And you cannot sponsor a sibling who's older than 21. And you yourself have to be over 18 to sponsor anyone. \n\nEdit: You do realise diversity lottery also requires a foreign passport, right? Oh wait, you're clueless.",
"Except you weren't making valid arguments... And if it sounds like a troll, acts like a troll, and looks like a troll, it's probably a troll. ",
"> It was a play on you saying \"My bad!\"\n\n",
"I don't really want people to just take my word for it. That's my point people aren't actually researching the things they are arguing. For your other questions there's no magical unbiased source for everything and I'm probably not smarter than you, I just take the time to research the source of the issue and figure out how it impacts people. In this case I spent 4-5 hours going through IRS data and filling out tax forms for average americans under the proposed tax plans to calculate the impact of each plan. I found that the actual impact was very different than all the summary articles. Everything was biased one way pr the other in its reporting and both sides were deceptive. ",
"> In this case I spent 4-5 hours going through IRS data and filling out tax forms for average americans under the proposed tax plans to calculate the impact of each plan. I found that the actual impact was very different than all the summary articles. Everything was biased one way pr the other in its reporting and both sides were deceptive.\n\nThat's awesome. I'll look into doing similar things in the future. Thank you for the info.",
"Liberals believe Mexicans are allowed to come into America illegally but Americans can't come into other countries illegally... ",
"Wrong at every point.\n\n1. It's only fraud if that the only reason for it. Don't you believe in love? It trumps hate after all. \n\n2. You need a sponsoring employer for H-1B.\n\n3. Daca recipients aren't just from Mexico.\n\n4. They don't have to be related. ",
"Wasn’t trying to change anyones mind. It’s been established for quite some time now that facts aren’t very persuasive for stupid people. ",
"WRONG",
"Then shouldn't it have been \"You bad!\" ???\n\nYour first mistake was attempting to be clever lol. ",
"> Everyone who disagrees with me is stupid.\n\nOk.",
"Ayyyy lul. \n\n1) Need a foreign passport.\n2) H1B application needs a foreign passport.\n3) Lottery application needs a foreign passport.\n4) So people can sponsor non relatives? Hahahahahahahaha my sides.\n\nHere, let me spoon feed your sorry ass:\n\nhttp://ap.washington.edu/ahr/visas/h1b/checklists/",
"Lol I gave you stats with reliable government sources. Al you've done is spew bullshit opinions. \nI agree you must be a troll. ",
"Nope. People who value a cult of personality over facts and tearing down bigotry are stupid. ",
"That's retarded.",
"Why do you keep saying \"ayyy\"? And what is the dumpster? Still haven't gotten an answer to that one.\n\n1. Not true https://www.boundless.co/immigration-resources/daca-recipients-and-marriage-green-cards/\n\n2. a U.S. employer can file an H-1B petition for you\n\n3. No you don't. http://www.usadiversitylottery.com/requiremnts.html\n\n4. Yes. You can get it through an employer. ",
"Happens everytime America is awake. /r/politics starts brigading and botting the shit out of default subs. \nI can't believe they are still butthurt after 1 year.",
"I've literally put out a link that explains the documents you need for a H1B visa. But I guess you can't read 😂😂\n\n4) What can you get from an employer? Citizenship or GC application? 😂\n\nEdit: From your link of the diversity visa,\n\n\"To qualify for the USA Diversity Visa Lottery, you must be a foreign citizen or national not born in the United States of America\"\n\nHow do you prove that you're a foreign citizen? With a passport. Deluded trumpet is deluded.\n\nEdit 2: From your DACA link, DACA recipients need to have a valid visa when they entered the country to get a marriage GC. Most of them didn't. But continue providing links that decimate your own talking points 😂😂\n\nYou're a very legitimate case for deluded Trump supporters. Nice template.",
"You have shown time and time again that you can't read. Your insults are hilarious. Please don't stop!\n\nDaca aren't born in the US, Skippy. \n\nTrumpets? Wtf? ",
"My is possessive. \"My bad!\"\n\nYour is possessive. \"Your bad!\"\n\nKind of like how you are saying \"Your first mistake was attempting to be clever.\" If talking about myself, I would say \"My first mistake...\"\n\nUnfortunately, my first mistake was trusting in the intelligence of a random person on the internet.",
"More people voted for Hillary. Trump lost the popular vote.\n\n",
"When did I say DACA recipients are born in the US? LMAO. The point was that they don't hold foreign identification. But that went right over your head, as usual.\n\nEdit: Bored now. Can't cure stupidity, I guess. Tada.",
"I hope they can find a cure for your rabies.",
"> cult of personality\n\nNot sure where that came from, but sounds like you're just drifting off into your own world now, so enjoy.",
"This is the intellectual equivalent of a midget claiming they'd beat navy seal in a fist fight, and it's fucking adorable.",
"Yes it most certainly does. A nation of 320 million with the third-largest land area and one of the lowest overall population densities simply cannot make a direct democracy system work.",
"I was also making a joke because people have inherently poor understanding of the efficiency of government, most likely, from optics like said shirt that subtly spread the false idea that government can't work efficiently.\n\nI hope her polling station was wheelchair accessible as required by that inefficient government. :)",
"Nobody gives a shit.",
"WRONG",
"I didn't say that more people voted for Trump. I said that according to his name \"trumpvotersarenazis\" a lot of people are nazis",
"I don't recall saying Mexicans in general could come into America illegally. I do recall saying that certain groups of people under special circumstances are granted special immigration rules and this is something most countries have some form of. I also recall saying that 80-90 percent of Americans agree, so this isn't really liberal versus conservative thing friend.",
"[The democrats tried putting forth a call to pay the military and veterans. It's on Mitch for turning it down. \n](https://mobile.twitter.com/SenateDems/status/954761305424105472)\n\n\nIn the bipartisan agreement, the Democrats caved to a lot of republican demands. Including some funding for a wall/fence/boarder security/whatever you want to call it. Trump thinks that because he's the president and has the house and senate he doesn't have to compromise and can demand the democrats do everything his way. That is not how government works nor should it be. But he wants to learn it the hard way. Because the president wants to be a dictator is we are where we are at. If any vets die, that is why.",
"Let's be honest here, this started off with people butt hurt over a picture. \n\nIt ends with you butt hurt over cultural references. \n\nYou must be the life of every party. \n\nPlease let this be where this ends. PLEASE!!!\n\nAnd just so we're clear you just claimed it wasn't possessive (the you're chat) then you said it is. So now you are flip flopping so long as you are right. I hate talking with people like you, as I imagine you hate talking to people like me. ",
"And armies exist to defend against it because of THE GOVERNMENT.\n\nGenuinely, what are you trying to argue, that we shouldn't have governments? Again, anti-slavery and anti-discrimination laws only exist *because of governments*.",
"Nobody gives a shit.",
"It actually wasn't we had to lift her chair up the steps to the door!",
"Big brother don't like to be pushed around... ",
"WRONG",
"The guy is just trolling and harassing people. Report him, he'll have to think of a more clever name for his next alt account",
"But it could make a democracy work. You don't need a direct democracy to be democratic.",
"And it sounds like you’re already in one. Maybe you’ll drift out of it, but that’s pretty rare. Good luck",
"> Good luck\n\nYou too.",
"I’m saying there is plenty to criticize the government for. ",
"Nobody gives a shit.",
"WRONG",
"Well yes, nobody at all is arguing that.\n\nYou appear to have made up a point of view to argue against rather than reading what people have actually *written*.",
"If anything I'm butt hurt that you can't read. I have no idea what you mean by \"you just claimed it wasn't possessive.\" Everything I said was about how both \"my\" and \"your\" are possessive. YOU are the one who thought it should be \"you're bad.\" But unfortunately you're bad at grammar (hey, look. Not possessive!). \n\nThis can end whenever you would like. No one is making you reply. I'm not happy that this has turned into an grammar lesson - which somehow *still* isn't working - either. ",
"Nobody gives a shit.",
"WRONG",
"*[Sensible Chuckle](http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/897/718/c5f.gif)*",
"If you give me the ability to take 50% of peoples income by force I could do all of that, and much better probably ",
"I hadn't intended to respond to you or even read your response given your previous dishonestly because I knew you would do *exactly* what you did: ignore the substance of my claim, claim shock at being called a liar for lying and then offering no rebuttal except for \"no I didn't\", and of course I wasn't disappointed. \n\nHowever after seeing the Democrats have *again* acted in good fail to meet the Republicans halfway this was the response from Trump:\n\n*Friend, YOU are the reason our government is back open.\nEver since the Schumer Shutdown, we received 48 petitions per second from Americans like you, demanding Democrats stop holding our military hostage to give amnesty to illegal immigrants.\nDemocrats in red states we won big league saw how ANGRY you were with their disgusting tactics, and couldn’t go on any longer. This is how we win -- by rallying together and fighting!\nBut during this shutdown, Pelosi raised hundreds of thousands of dollars from her radical base that wants unchecked illegal immigration.\nWe can’t let them get away with it. We will never forget the names of EVERY single liberal obstructionist responsible for this disgusting shut down, and we will work to FIRE them come November.*\n\nPathetic.\n\n",
"Nobody gives a shit.",
"We do have a democracy. It's called indirect, or representative, democracy.",
"WRONG",
"Nobody gives a shit.",
"WRONG",
"your bad:\n\nwhen someone is so dismissive of, and unapologetic for, a mistake they've made that someone else needs to dismissively not apologize for them in order to point out their incredible lack of consideration for the world.\n\nNope I'm just far more hip to culture.\n\nLATER, always has to get the last word in dude.",
">I knew you would do *exactly* what you did: ignore the substance of my claim\n\nThe substance of that comment *was* attacking me. You made a big bulleted list out of it even.\n\n>claim shock at being called a liar for lying and then offering no rebuttal except for \"no I didn't\"\n\nSorry, that's not how it works. My words are on display for all to see and I did not lie. You are the one making the accusations and yet you did not cite anything I said. *You* are the one accusing so *you* have to provide the evidence. **You obviously will not do this because you** ***cannot***.\n\n>this was the response from Trump:\n\nI don't see your point. You call it pathetic but you don't say why. How is this supposed to convince me or anyone of anything. It's like you think if you're angry enough then you will win people to your side without having to actually examine anything, explore any details, or explain, well, anything.",
"Nobody gives a shit.",
"Why? Seems like a waste of money.",
"WRONG",
"The people did not get a vote for president, which means the presidential election was not democratic, which means the US is not a democracy.",
"Lol your comebacks are as pathetic as your party at this point",
"Nobody gives a shit.",
"Here we have a donald retard posting in r/politics like he’s just another russian bot",
"“I want to donate to reputable charities so that people without a job and with health conditions can have the help they need to fill in the cracks after the already established tax-funded safety nets of unemployment insurance, government housing allowance, monthly food allowance, free home telephone, free cellphone, free internet, reduced cost energy and water bills, disability pay, and Medicaid/Medicare/CHIP don’t pay for everything they need to give them what I consider to be a quality lifestyle.”\n\nFTFY.",
"There's a part of the world I'm not considering? Which one?\n\nYou're right, you are super cool. ",
"Damn so much hate my friend. What did I ever do to you?",
"You literally just told me I don’t work for a living. Another rightard playing the victim...how typical lol\n\nPS you never told me why your irrelevant ass posts in r/Politics. Is there anything more sad?",
"Idk whats more sad the fact that you have blind hatred toward me or that you didn't realize I'm not OC lol. You're trying to make me feel bad over the internet. Grow up. ",
"The hatred isn’t blind. Your comment history is enough to make any mentally stable person wonder about your health. Please seek help.",
"Please elaborate on your position. ",
"WRONG",
"Not even worth arguing with a blind conservative. See you in november little guy",
"So you are forfeiting this debate by refusing to elaborate. Good talk!",
"You can’t debate stupid lol you’re not even worth my time",
"That's fair. Glad we're on the same page here friend. ",
"Now you’re just sending mixed signals. It must be so easy to be a conservative.",
"??? You are not making much sense here. ",
"Nobody gives a shit.",
"Sorry it’s over your head. I don’t expect much intelligence from your kind lol",
"Right, another bigoted insult thrown my way by Captain Dunning-Kruger over here. ",
"Bigoted insult for calling out a pathetic little donalder? Holy shit you’re delusional. You should probably stay in your safe space if you’re that sensitive. r/the_retard is that way",
"No, I said bigoted in the literal sense of the word. Unaccepting of alternate viewpoints from your own. A synonym could be prejudiced. I'm not hurt at all, I'm enjoying this. I'm just throwing it back in your face that you're projecting your own bigotry onto me. You're making yourself look like an ass, dude. I'm just lettin' ya do it. ",
"There’s a big difference between unaccepting and critical. You don’t seem to understand the difference because you’re another blind christian. The GOP is dead - we’ll see you in november pussy.",
"When did I ever mention my faith? I'm not religious actually. So much for your narrative there. There is a difference between those two words but you are straight up bigoted. Judging by your comment history and the amount of trolling and projection you find yourself a part of, you have some inner demons that need some work. Hope it all goes well man, have a good one.",
"No, I want to pay to a government that GUARANTEES a decent quality of life for all. If charity worked there wouldn't be people starving in Africa.",
"You've given nothing of the sort. Stop lying. It's obvious you're a troll. Anyone could look at your username and history and know it. Just stop.",
"Yeah I saw him in another thread saying he has a master in chemistry and was super rich and successful. It's pretty pathetic honestly.",
"Thank you for seeing it now. Took alot to admit it after hours of talking. Sad we couldn't have just jumped to the definition earlier then we could have saved so much time.",
"Keep feeding the lie, pal",
"So now you want US Taxpayers to pay for Africans now, too? \n\nAlso, you didn’t address what I said about the government safety net. How does free housing, free phone, free electric, free food, free internet, free job training, free education—all of which are already provided to truly disabled or unhealthy people or those who are truly unable to work in the USA—",
">So now you want US Taxpayers to pay for Africans now, too?\n\nI want a single government, so... yes...\n\n>Also, you didn’t address what I said about the government safety net. How does free housing, free phone, free electric, free food, free internet, free job training, free education—all of which are already provided to truly disabled or unhealthy people or those who are truly unable to work in the USA—how does providing all this and more NOT qualify as a decent quality of life?\n\nBut that can only be done through the government. Africa is proof that charities do not work.\n\n>What you mean is you want to control other people and their money because your zeal for power is more important than the liberty of your fellow man.\n\nI want the government to have control over people and their money so I can live in a decent society.\n\n",
"Thanks for replying. Just felt the.video could be of some interest. Ill look forwqrd to hearing your points. Peace. I'll let you get the last word. Np",
"I just feel if it's relevant and I appreciate your responses. So much anti trump this and that. I enjoy pushing back. Np. Peace",
"I love trump. ",
"yeah, better to cry incessantly about antifa super soldiers",
"Not as worthlesss ass you fuckboy",
"Also this guy^ is a major troll.",
"Yes it is. So funny when people Like you act superior while simultaneously spreading incorrect information.You aree aa stupidd fuckboy",
"Please report this account. He's been trolling and harassing all day.",
"In all the history of the world, can you name one such society where government controls all the money and people are just doing GREAT for many generations?\n\n(didn't think so).\n\nOh... and just because Africans aren’t very charitable doesn’t mean that charity doesn’t work. Even the poorest in the USA are well fed and sheltered so long as they aren’t on crack or meth or worse. Vagrancy in the US is a choice. \n\nYou are a delusional fool.\n",
"You say backing out, I say I never initiated a back and forth, to begin with. You commented on what I posted initially. \nI commented on your motives at least what I presumed them to be. \nPutting words in your mouth about Schumer perhaps aside, I don't believe you are being attacked and or made out to be a victim, sorry if you felt that way. \n\nI posted a Schumer video because it relates directly to the motives, and or preferential democratic immigration, DACA first idiotic ideas.\nThis is why the shutdown had happened at least for me. \n\nI mentioned Schumer being selective and how it's called the Schumer shut down. \nYou presume that means I should be forced to listen to your throwing Trump under the bus, because of a supposed agreement they had. Schumer is full of shit, and you can hate on Trump as long as you like. He's allowed to change his mind, that's if I accept the premise of the deal being set in stone, and or how Trump should of accepted it, and how now the shutdown's downfalls truly belongs to the Donald when I can't really agree with that premise. \n\nYou don't want to rationalize that the possibility of resisters being full of shit, IMO. \n\nYou can attempt to twist things around, and play the victim card. \nYou posted the quote, that in a sense for me still is out of context, and for me, it doesn't matter what you posted initially or not. \nIt's just an excuse for me, attempting to cast a shadow onto the presidency by any means necessary. \n\nYou presume we should be ashamed that we voted for someone who makes straightforward claims regarding who would be to blame in a typical scenario. \nThis is anything but for me. \nNever in the history of the USA have people pushed back so much and in a defiant manner, pathetic manner. \nYou could attempt to come around in that sense or habitually resist otherwise. \nHonestly, I really don't care either way. \nDo what you think is best. \n\nFor you to selectively take old quotes and videos in a sense to quash other opinions or not is IMO not relevant. \nThat was a long while ago, not here and now, and not with these circumstances in place. \nGood on you for finding it, but for me it's not even close to a gotcha as much as you would hope it could be. \n\nStill an interesting perspective you have, and relatively good thought process unto how Trump put his foot in his mouth 5 years ago, regarding today's very complicated process. \nStill, for me, it's not very relevant...\n\nThe leadership is strong, so many great accomplishments already had, and many still to come. \nYet, with this shutdown all the blame is cast unto him, I think not. \n\nAs a voter of Trump, I didn't concentrate on this topic of conversation regarding shutdowns. \nYou can attempt to invalidate me for that reason, yet I don't believe you are fairly looking at this issue for what it is. \nMerely taking a relatable interview as a gotcha, that was 5 years ago. \n\nTrump will be under attack from various angles, many of which are underserved. So there. \n\nDemocrats do deserve the blame, the shutdown was because Trump wasn't going to rush into DACA, and immigration reform in a speedy and sloppy manner. \nThe shutdown exposes the Democrats for being unflappable in their mindset. \nEven when it affects others in some small ways, (parks closed) and various other larger ones too( pay for our military, wic, etc)\n\nFacts that you presume mean much of anything, its just a poor attempt at a gotcha, and again it falls short, and or is out of context, lack of understanding the full picture IMO.\n\nLindsay and the other 4, are a great reason why term limits should be in place. \n\nBlame Mitch McConnell as you wish, this would never have happened if not for the Dems who presume they have more power then they have. \nOverstepping at its finest. \nThis is just another cheap shot, that is underserved, and how it's supposed to unravel Trump. \nToo bad that isn't going to happen, the critiques and negativity will be avoided, and will not hurt or hinder Trump as much as you would hope it could. \n\nIt's just noise. \nAgain this came about because I said a truth of \"Schumer shutdown\" only for you to undermine my point with 5 years old, and yes out of context logic. \n\nI will post the memo from Jim \"Mad dog\" Mattis. \nIt shows what is at stake, and how people shouldn't be playing games with our military readiness, and how McCaskill can try to keep the funding, but the resisting and stall tactics onset by the Dems, cannot be fixed with just a simple last-minute plea or hail mary. \nBlame Mitch as you wish. \nThis is interesting how you take such offense or how I put words in your mouth, but I'm just speaking in a rational, logical, and unfeeling way.\n\nGDP growth under Obama was never +3.0%. 0 for 32 quarters.\nGDP growth under Trump had always been +3.0.% 4 for 4 quarters. \n\nI messaged the Schumer video to you in a DM as an oh btw, you wanted to come back over the top in the thread, and send me old videos. \n\nEnjoy yourself as you wish. \n",
"Dude, this is just sad.",
"Because this is basically targeted harassment. Get a life please.",
"Get a life and leave me alone.",
"Bahaha I could argue you are target harassing me. You reply to *every* *single* comment I make. \nBut it's good to know you are such a pussy that you're bitching about \"harassment\" go fuck yourself dickless ",
"Almost like that's exactly what you're doing... I was just calling you out on your bullshit.",
"Lying yet again...",
"Hope you get perma banned. Reported.",
"Reported.",
"Sure post them. I've got nothing to hide in this situation.",
"I highly doubt it. I like how you are trying to tell a disabled guy your experience means something and his doesn’t. ",
"I like how your trying to put words in my mouth. All I said was we have two completely different experiences. I never said anything to suggest your experience doesn't matter. I guess your disability is a reading one.\n\nAll I said was people don't feel comfortable many times when first subjected to that humor. It's okay to be uncomfortable and you don't have to laugh at every joke.",
"In all the history of the world, can you name one such society where **companies** control all the money and people are just doing GREAT for many generations?\n\n(didn't think so).\n\n>Oh... and just because Africans aren’t very charitable doesn’t mean that charity doesn’t work. Even the poorest in the USA are well fed and sheltered so long as they aren’t on crack or meth or worse. Vagrancy in the US is a choice.\n\nWE aren't very charitable. That is why Africa is starving.\n\n>Even the poorest in the USA are well fed and sheltered so long as they aren’t on crack or meth or worse.\n\nBecause of the government...",
"So now that the government is back up and running (no thanks to the democrats), has she miraculously recovered and can walk again!?",
"\"no thanks to the democrats\"? Its all thanks to the democrats for opening it back up, theyre the ones that shut it down! The girl in the picture is good-natured and was just playing around(she's also from the UK). Lighten up. Dims upvoted the shit out of this pic because they thought I was taking a stab at Trump and the Republicans. No, Im just for smaller and more efficient government. A better running government. ",
"Dems shut it down, they gave up their silly protest and had to get it back running again. But, I suppose I could lighten up. I guess I thought it was also a stab at the Republicans. Kudos to the girl for the creativity.",
"It's always amazing that conservatives think liberals are trying to take away the right to keep and bear arms when all they are trying to do is keep arms out of the hands of criminals and the mentally unhinged and to encourage law abiding gun owners to take some responsibility for securing and storing their guns. ",
"Physician here too. Medicare pays 1/10th of private insurance, if at all. Medicaid is even worse. I often don't get reimbursed at all from the government...",
"In a vast, ever-changing, and complex global economy, you named 7.......\n\nSeven things that are actually done quite poorly. \n\nApollo 1, the challenger, the columbia.\n\nA GPS network that in 2010 was on the brink of collapse\n\nAn interstate highway system that led to huge population upheavals and continues to distort commercial demographics in every town in the United States.\n\nSafe drinking water and safe food....Do I even need to discuss these?\n\nAnd the internet...which had TCP/IP protocols already in development in the private sector and was nudged in one direction arbitrarily by the government.\n\nIt's funny, you give so much latitude to the government when it fails, but if a private company fucks up in the slightest you're after their head.\n\nYour repost is bad and you should feel bad. ",
"If you did even the slightest research you’d see that many powerful liberals want exactly that, including Hillary.\n\nEdit: and as someone who has lived in the liberal strongholds of Chicago and California, I can very much tell you that they will take away your rights if they have the chance. Where did Obama start his career in politics?\n\n",
"That's the oft cited meme but you're not bickering back and forth like with privates. ",
"She actually doesn't ",
"And I like how you intentionally misread mine. And insulting me on top of it. You are a pretty cool dude huh? You are putting a ton of words in my mouth as well. Dude, a disabled person is discussing jokes of this nature withyou right now. Maybe turn off your able bodied privilege and listen to them.",
"Me having an able body has nothing to do with this. This is about humor. All I'm saying is that many people are uncomfortable with this kind of humor. \n\nI never put any words in your mouth. You, on the other hand, accused me of saying that your opinion doesn't matter. Which I never even suggested.\n\nIf you're going to come in and make straw man arguments and play victim all the time, no one will take you seriously. Yeah it sucks that you're in a wheelchair, but listen to the experience of this able bodied person. A LOT of us are uncomfortable with this humor when we're first subjected to it. And there are many disabled people who are uncomfortable joking about their own disability. This is coming from someone who has spent a lot of time with disabled people and grew up with a lot of them.\n\nIt's okay to be uncomfortable with someone's humor. That was my original point. Just because someone makes a joke and we feel uncomfortable about it, doesn't mean we think you are less than human. We've been raised to think that bringing it up is taboo.\n\nJust because we don't laugh at your jokes or don't immediately feeo comfortable with that, doesn't mean we think less of you. Quit acting like people are assholes because they don't laugh at your jokes. That makes you an asshole.\n\nWe're done here.",
"Sorry but fox news and brietbart are not reputable sources for research.",
"Because reddit is full of spastic morons trying really hard to be outraged over everything, regardless of context. ",
"LOL",
"You missed the entire point, over and over, of my messages. Maybe one day you will grow up and get your head out of your ass. Clearly that day isn’t today. Good luck. ",
"is /r/pics being vote botted this past week?",
"Same in Germany^^",
"Savage",
"Why are the comments so crap",
"Lots of crappy people out there, I guess.",
"Yeah, and it sure would be a shame if we made this government bigger, right?",
"Very right. ",
"You can [get it here. Found it on Amazon.](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079GF88VY)",
"I found another one in youth sizes, plus its on Amazon. Can't beat that. [Check it out here](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079GF88VY)",
"Wow...this thread has been...interesting. Lol. Now, I hope I don't anger anyone by leaving a comment that might actually be relevant to this post, but I thought the shirt was freaking hilarious so I went searching for it. [For those who are interested you can find it here on Amazon.](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079GF88VY) Your welcome. :D :D :D ",
"The \"kid\" sizes are unavailable?",
"Oh sorry!! Wrong link, my bad. [Here is the right link.](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079M8XVZL)"
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"Lets not forget to mention these are helpful hints as a courtesy of Coinmach ASI the company that provides our laundry machines.",
"Ironically there is a big stain on the chart itself.",
"That dude has had a hell of a day",
"I know right, like he went on a date with the farmer’s daughter. ",
"Remove blood stains with Windex",
"I've been told to blot with hydrogen peroxide.",
" Haven't tried that yet... I'll check it out. Thanks!\n\nI just had surgery and accidentally bled on to my pillow cases- the Windex took the blood right out."
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"What do you do with a birthday cheese? ",
"With cheez whiz piping? ",
"[Relevant](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ0lINBWkAARNo7.jpg) ",
"*checks to see if Southwest flies to Wisconsin*",
"So, did anyone cut the cheese last night?",
"I'm not big on cake and I love cheese. For my 33 1/3 birthday I had a wheel of cheese.",
"Oh his face is cute. And your username is really familiar to me.",
"You know, I really wouldn't mind that. Just need a fuck ton of crackers to go with it. ",
"My mom told me she was returning some generic cheese dip she bought for my dad in case of an emergency. I said \"a cheese emergency?\". Dad is from Wisconsin, so running out of cheese is considered an emergency.",
"That's a very nice gift cheese. Giving a cheese is a great way to bind a friendship and a colon.",
"You sing it happy birthday like any other birthday recipient ",
"You can only fly Southwest to Wisconsin if you're in Canada",
"Wisconsin stereotypes are all pretty accurate.",
"I love this comic, I think of it every time I eat cheese. I love me some cheese. And I must get around, I suppose :D",
"Blockage.",
"\n\nActually, Wisconsinites carry a special gene that allows them to eat nothing but cheese all day.",
"Denver and vegas have direct flights to mke. Every time I fly to wisco, i fly southwest.",
"The direction southwest friend, not the airline ",
"Ahhh. So i guess I'm flying southeast to wisconsin.",
"Your 33 1/3? What?",
"Or in Michigan if you're in the UP",
"Can confirm. Have a drawn in the fridge that is only for cheese. ",
"The naked bullet",
"Grats on 40. We all chipped in and got you heart disease.",
"Is Wisconsin home to a wide variety of quality cheeses, like you'd find in Europe, or just the basic stuff like cheddar? Serious question.",
"This is a fact. We have castles with cheese, cheese fountains, cheese wheels, beer cheese, cheese beer, cheesy jokes and strip clubs. This allows our bodies to completely absorb the cheesy goodness. ",
"I saw a headless woman with an extra belly button. ",
"My kind of cake.",
"I thought for sure it was a cardboard box ",
"I too would like to know this",
"Most people I know from Wisconsin wouldn't bother with crackers. Had a college roommate from Wisconsin with a minor dairy allergy that would sit down and eat a 12oz block of cheese straight up over the course of 60-90 minutes. ",
"Not artesian cheeses but mainly blocks of the stuff you'd find in the regular dairy aisle. There are a few places that make fancy stuff that takes longer to age but the majority is just cheese. They go nuts over cheese curds. They have to be fresh and they squeak when you chew them. They are not fried like you'd find in a fair but fresh made nuggets of mostly cheddar cheese. I'll admit they are tasty but I'd never eat a pound of them like most people from Wisconsin would. ",
"You should probably have taken a picture.",
"Jeeesus I bet that dude farted up your apartment something fierce.",
"There's one thing I've noticed when visiting a small town there that the stereotypes typically leave out: frozen pizza. Soooo much frozen pizza. Two aisles in the little grocery store, and whole freezer cases dedicated to it in gas stations. The factory I was visiting had a dedicated frozen pizza cooker in the break room.",
"i’m from wisconsin and actually grew up on a dairy farm. we don’t have a lot of the fancy cheeses you’ll find in europe, rather an extensive array of basic cheeses that are very high quality. also as the other guy said, we fucks with cheese curds ",
"I have a drawing:\n\nhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ0lINBWkAARNo7.jpg",
"Bro, we stop counting fractions of age when can't do it on our hands anymore.",
"Too Wisconsin, even for me. ",
"Cut it",
"He's a 400 month old.",
"Northeast*",
"It looks like there was also a cake",
"This isn't really true. Wisconsin is one of the leading dairy producers in the US, so they do produce a lot of the regular dairy aisle cheese you see in the grocery store, but it definitely has a lot of excellent artisanal cheese makers as well. Sartori and Roth, for example, make some of my favorite cheeses period - European or otherwise.",
"that is the midwest in general.\n\ni work in a big store in the twin cities and we have nearly a whole frozen aisle side dedicated to frozen pizza. that is normal for a grocery store here. you have like 4-10 different toppings from each different brand, and there are a good 15+ brands.",
"Was the party for 300 people? Cause then its appropriate by Hill's Standard. ",
"What did everyone else eat?",
"Where is the slide for legendary diarrhea ",
"Lucky. Here in southern california... I’m going to get organic kale chips with non-gmo air in the bag. ",
"Limburger cheese is only made in one town in the US, and that's in Wisconsin.",
"A cake fit for Charlie Kelly.",
"milk's leap toward immortality",
"I fly from spokane 47° n to milwaukee 42° n. Southeast.",
"Well to everyone reading your previous comment you were flying from Denver (40n) or Vegas (36n)",
"Or constipation",
"Want.",
"Cheese curds are popular in Wisconsin? How are you not eating poutine on the regular?!",
"Hell no. Their goal is volume. Massive, yuge, Crushing volume. ",
"Frontier is the budget airline to Milwaukee. $88 from Orlando. Spirit is the budget to Chicago, only 3 hours from places like Paoli, WI that are known for cheese. ",
"I'm just bothered by how low effort the decoration is. It could have looked awesome, but they didn't even center the text! ",
"Yeah small town cheese makers are winning international competitions. If you're in southern Wisconsin you're probably less than a half hour away from some of the best cheese in the world",
"Sweet, thanks!",
"Must always have cheddar, proper jack, and brie",
"That's not true, there's Wisconsin, fat conservative gun toting Packers fans. There's Milwaukee fat black gun toting Packers fans. And Madison, 50 square miles of thin gun toting liberal Packers fans, surrounded by reality. ",
"I'm really glad the bars here offer them after the kitchen closes",
"Wisconsin cremeries often win international awards...beating out the Europeans. Of course it not just cheddar....why would you think that?",
"Feel free to pm if you visit. ",
"Will do. 😃",
"Mmmmmmm\n\nAn entire selection of various cheeses would be even more excellent though.",
"What about blue",
"You haven't kept up with Wisconsin cremeries then....because it's just not true that they only make basic cheeses. I was at a local beer and cheese fest just yesterday.....there was only one offering that was a mild cheddar.",
"There must have been monster logs as well, cheese is such a bind",
"I'm less concerned about the emergency cheese than I am about the returning of said cheese. Who returns cheese?",
"Maybe he's assuming he will live to 99",
"Yeah it's weird but nobody eats poutine here. Its tasty as hell but no poutine. Most of WI is german heritage so maybe its their hatred for french?",
"It was just a question.",
"Dairy allergy? Yeah right, he's just feeling the normal effects of eating an entire block of cheese lol ",
"Isn't Wisconsin where you guys \"tip cows\"?\n\n(TBBT watcher)",
"Up where?",
"Well if you don't know someone who has had a DUI. ",
"I've never heard of Paoli before, I thought I should go visit. I just looked it up, it's 10 miles south of me apparently. ",
"cheese and racism isn't so bad.",
"Wisconsinite here, I don't think I've ever even touched a cow when not at a fair or festival or something, much less tipped one. \n\nWe mostly just get drunk and eat cheese. ",
"Literally bought 3 frozen pizzas an hour ago, put a grate in my woodburner and made a whiskey drink. I am Wisconsin",
"How thoroughly civilised. :)",
"/u/thatdamnedgym",
"I went to the Tillamook Cheese Factory once and saw hundreds of those cheddar bricks coming off the conveyor belts. I'd love to build a house with them.",
"Haha dammit the stereotypes are all true...",
"[What a rush](https://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/12/cheese-has-morphine-like-qualities-can-be-addictive.html)",
"2 comments. One stated that denver and vegas have direct flights to milwaukee = true. Second statement, When i fly to wisconsin, i am traveling to the southeast = true. Sorry for any assumptions you made.",
"Upper Peninsula",
"Man, I really like that you're really like that!",
"Yeah he doesn't seem to be getting the cheese sweats either. Something is fishy here.",
"It was unopened jar of cheese dip, usually found in chip aisle, non refrigerated. ",
"> we fucks with cheese curds\n\nSounds messy. ",
"Ugh as a Canadian this makes me so sad. I didn't realize how bad we have it until I went travelling and found imported cheese for sale, in Cambodia, that was cheaper than Canadian cheese in Canada. It's like 8$ for a mediocre wheel of fucking Brie here.",
"That is one hell of a bowel blockage. ",
"My Lord Baron, I am at your command\n\n*Nervous twitching*",
"speak for yourself",
"Thats pretty cheesy ",
"Up there.",
"Does nobody see the real cake right below the \"cheesecake\"?",
"Most stereotypes are true",
"Those are just the cheese sweats. Totally normal when you consume a healthy serving of Wisconsin cheddar. ",
"That's what he means in that song",
"There are a lot of variations of standard cheeses that I couldn't find when moving out of WI. Onion cheese, salami colby cheese, horseradish white cheddar, and pepperoni/garlic mozzarella are a few off the top of my head. WI makes all the soft cheeses that Europe does, plus a ton of hard cheeses.",
"The fuck outa here with your foot cheese.",
"My colon solidified just looking at that ",
"I see it, the ears are the arms",
"Up in the UP",
"That’s not true, that’s ignorant. Don’t succumb.",
"Be happy that is your stereotype. I'm from Baltimore. ",
"You can get any type of cheese of any quality in Wisconsin. It will be made in Wisconsin too.",
"Appleton/Green Bay is the Mecca for Yoopers.",
"Trader Joe's is everywhere",
"I lived in Wisconsin most of my life and ate disgusting amounts of cheese.\n\nNo constipation, no blockages of any kind, nothin.",
"Velveeta? ",
"Damn. How much would a 40-pound cheese cost?",
"Wait. Your mom returned cheese? No one is questioning this? ",
"Have been to Wisconsin once, still have draw in fridge devoted to cheese, and separate wire basket on another shelf for the more pungent ones.",
"Eau Claire checking in!!",
"Fuck it, I am moving to Wisconsin.",
"Why was the dip returned? Dont leave out the actual important part of the story.",
"The fact that you don't get that makes me think you are soooooo young.",
"Mmmm sartori. My favorite. I have a block of peppermint parmesan in the fridge. ",
"But really, Heggies is the only one worth eating. ",
"Yes. We have had cheeses that one international awards.",
"Use sentences",
"But why return it at all? I've never made the effort to return food in my life. Did you guys grow up in poverty or something?",
"I didn't know that was a thing but now I want someone to buy me cheese for my birthday. Or anything, really.",
"Recreational is legal now you say?",
"Welcome to Wisconsin. Here is your complimentary package of Usinger Sausage, bag of fresh cheese curds, and 6 pack of New Glarus Spotted Cow. Now please rise for our State Anthem \"Roll Out the Barrell.\"",
"It took me a few tries to read that as birthday cheese and not birthday cheesecake. ",
"The great state of Wisconsin will not apologize for it's cheese.",
"I'm in Eau Claire lol that's kinda wild ",
"It's supposed to be a vegetable drawer, but who are we kidding",
"Oh yeah. We make all the non VSOP cheese out here, and some of our own, too. You've got Roth Kase in Monroe does some stellar cheeses like Grand Cru, Moody Blue, and my personal favorite of theirs, GranQueso. Marieke up in Thorpe does some of the best Gouda on the planet (their foenugreek Gouda is divine). You've got Hennings up in Kiel with some awesome cheddar blends, and Sartori out in Plymouth if hard Italians is your thing (they do a 1 year cheddar parm blend called Bellavitano with some 20+ different flavored rinds that's is amazing) and Belgioioso has plants all over WI for the fresh mozzarella lovers. \n\nSource--used to be the cheese buyer for one of the big Grocery stores in Madison. Wisconsin loves cheese. ",
"> Onion cheese, salami colby cheese, horseradish white cheddar, and pepperoni/garlic mozzarella are a few off the top of my head.\n\nYou probably just horrified the guy asking the question. \n\n",
"With cheese-in-a-can icing? ",
"For reals!! https://fromagination.com/product-category/wisconsin-cheese/",
"lol you mean like 3 DUIs? You'd be hard pressed to find a Wisconsinite that knows someone with a singular DUI. ",
"Small world, even for Reddit haha",
"I don’t think a cheese drawer is all that unique, but show me two cheese drawers and I’ll stop by for some cheese.",
"Wait until we give Walker the boot; our economy is shit right now. ",
"Beer and cheese fest outside of Madison?",
"I bet Chrissy talks too loud on the phone at work and always asks to see the manager.",
"That's... Brilliant.",
"If I didn't drive through Paoli on a daily basis I wouldn't know where it's at",
"I'm european. I have that. It's right above te vegetable drawer.",
"Don't tell me that wall is made of cheese too?",
"*77 square miles, this isn't 1980",
"From what I've seen stopping at shops in Wisconsin, you can get a wide variety of flavored cheeses, or cheeses with *stuff* in them. So, no, you don't *typically* see cheeses that stand on their own merits. What you'll find is cheddar, Gouda, havarti, etc flavored with spices, vegetables, meat or fruit. \n\nThere are places that age their cheese, use seasonal milk, rind wash and such, but most places produce fairly dull cheese exclusively for use as a flavor carrier.\n\nCheck [this link](https://www.ellsworthcheese.com/?utm_source=local&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=gmb) to see the sort of cheeses Wisconsin is proud of producing.",
"Yup. Central Wisconsin. I have an entire drawer dedicated to cheese.\n\nString cheese\n-Mozarella\n-Cheddar Mozzarella combo\n-Cheddar sticks\n\nSliced Cheese\n-Mild Cheddar\n-Provalone\n-Colby\n-Muenster\n\nShredded Cheese\n-Mozzarella\n-Mild Cheddar\n\nBrick Cheese\n-Sharp Cheddar\n-Pepper Jack\n-Mild Cheddar\n\nNovelty Cheese\n-Parmesan\n-Gouda wheel\n-Havarti\n-Cranberry Cream\n-Port Wine spread\n\n\nSend help. I have an addiction.",
"Up *Der*",
"Wait....pizza options aren’t that common everywhere?",
"Don't forget cheese filled braats, beer braats, beercheese braats, and cheesy beer braats.",
"We do everything, and do it well. http://host.madison.com/business/a-wisconsin-cheese-wins-the-world-championship-cheese-contest/article_f0067c29-d83c-533f-a9af-f562297eaf0b.amp.html",
"Nor should we. That's just more cheese than I can handle. Now, if it came in hat form...",
"And in europe, ofcourse. (it's originally from the belgian-dutch Limburg region",
"Yes we have a cheese drawer as well (WI here too).",
"And brats",
"During the cold snap 2 weeks ago it was too cold to get to the cheese shop since I have little kids and extra errands were out. I had to buy grocery store cheese *shudder*. Haha just kidding even the grocery store cheese is good in Wisconsin (just not as good).",
"If you like beer, The Hop Garden is worth the stop. ",
"They fly into Milwaukee.",
"Da UP",
"That's Easy Cheese, not Cheez Whiz. It's a common misconception for some reason, but Cheez Whiz comes in a jar. Easy Cheese is the stuff in a can.",
"Can confirm. Am from wisconsin and would eat the fuck out of that with some venison jerky ",
"Don't know how true it is but the guy at the grocery store months ago told me that we supply something like 26% of the US's cheese at a whopping 3 billion pounds a year.",
"The love of cheese supersedes all other food groups.",
"It's more that high quality cheese is readily available everywhere in Wisconsin. You don't have to go to a fancy hipster cheese shop to find a 10 year aged cheddar, you can find it at the grocery store. There are also a ton of local cheese shops that either make basic cheeses but make them very very well, or they make their own specialty cheeses. \n\nSo no it's not just basic stuff, although I will admit Wisconsin is very proud of it's cheddar.",
"That sounds like it would/should be a thing. A cheese hat actually made of cheese. ",
"I feel like I could live in Wisconsin, I LOVE CHEESE!!!",
"TIL I'm cool with moving to Wisconsin simply because of the cheese. I should get a cheese wheel for my birthday do over. ",
"*swoon*",
"At least it isn't comic sans or papyrus.",
"Live in MKE, don’t even need a cheese drawer. Bought Baby Swiss from Monroe today. Promptly ate entire block upon getting home. ",
"All I see is 40lbs of constipation.",
"Wisconsinite here. Always have extra butter too. I’ve made grocery store runs in PJs at 8:00am when it was -5 out just to get butter. Was worth it.",
"*if smashing heggies is wrong, I don’t wanna be right*",
"Funny thing, they’re actually pretty damn good too.",
"You lactose intolerant?",
"dear god",
"Are you eating cheese yet?",
"Foot cheese",
"Poor blue",
"It's a nice little town. Very small town Wisconsin. Cheese and all. ",
"Ya...no. http://host.madison.com/business/a-wisconsin-cheese-wins-the-world-championship-cheese-contest/article_f0067c29-d83c-533f-a9af-f562297eaf0b.amp.html",
"Fish cheese?",
"I'll be right over. Should I bring, like, crackers?",
"I'll have to visit some time. ",
"Nah we got plenty of those here in wisconsin",
"And knowing is half the battle!",
"Until 1968 the Wisconsin auto license plate motto actually said Come to Wisconsin and Smell Our Dairy Air. Admittedly, it was a large plate...",
"What were you drinking? Schlitz?",
"I got the most massive case of the sweats just looking at that.",
"r/cheese",
"No, the guest in a Wisconsin home should bring dessert, either wine or beer. The host, unless specified, will have a cheese and sausage tray.",
"Wait is that not normal elsewhere? ",
"“A birth cheese?”",
"Tell ya what, I'm older than 33 1/3, and i have no idea what you're talking about. Either you're way older than you're letting on, or you're referencing something before your time.",
"What kind of dessert does one bring to these awesome cheese parties?",
"Fuck yeah spotted cow, don't forget the sprechers root beer! ",
"Oh man. Wisconsin cheese got my mom a ticket and almost a felony charge. It's kinda funny actually. \n\nSo she flies all over the country for her job. She was in Wisconsin for a training program and got like 20lbs of cheese for our family (we all have an unhealthy live for cheese). Because of the amount of cheese, she had to use a second suitcase. She's at the airport flying back, but her flight got delayed. She's already checked in, her normal suitcase is on the plane, and her carryon is full of cheese, with her. She ends up going to the bathroom and leaves her suitcase full of delicious cheese products with some strangers who are also waiting for the same plane. When she comes back, she's almost arrested and is taken and is interogatd by tsa agents. Apparently it's illegal to leave luggage with other people because of a risk for bombs or something. ¯\\\\\\_(ツ)_/¯ \n\nShe ended up just getting a $500 ticket and got the felony charge removed by a judge because of some inappropriate things one of the tsa agents was shouting in a crowded airport at her. Her work ended up paying the ticket and paid her lawyer/court fees.\n\nBut man, that was some good cheese. I'd almost say it was worth. ",
"It must surely be acceptable in dip form for wings, right?",
"I can still play that tune on my clarinet. Barely picked up the thing since I graduated HS ten years ago, but at least I retained what knowledge was more important ;D",
"Orange Sprechers. hooooooly lawdy ",
"On the east coast it's at most half the Wisconsin selection, and probably more like 1/4 of it. The most we have is Totinos, Digiorno, Tombstone, Red Barron, and maybe California Pizza kitchen. There'll also be a store brand, usually, and a couple other random things. I noticed in WI that you had tons of local or small name brands and a few other more commercialized looking brands I didn't recognize.",
"[Good'ol EC](https://imgur.com/a/e2F2v)",
"No, it was easily 4x more frozen pizza than I'd ever seen in one place before, and that's at the only grocery store that services two small towns. It was heaven.",
"Cheesecake of course. ",
"It's some stupid Leslie Neilsen movie from back in the day",
"Apparently it's a.. Naked Gun reference? (Which, if you're actually 33, came out when you were 9). But not really a reference, just using the the number in a sentence without context. Like hey guys, remember this thing? neat! I don't actually have a point, or a joke, I just like referencing things that came out when I was 9. And apparently if you don't remember it, you're soooooooo young.",
"I see what you did there.",
"Go outside of Milwaukee for an authentic experience.",
"Look at this guy and his fancy *hand math*",
"Don't forget The Pickle, it's such a lovely establishment ",
"You'll get more than you bargained for.",
"Nobody else finds the knife sticking out of it foreboding in any way?",
"Oddly enough, nobody in Wisconsin is actually obsessed with cheese/dairy products as much as people think they are. In fact, most people here actually eat a quite balanced diet. But they are the masters of drinking, that stereotype is a fact.",
"I would also add Morgan Music and Cancun (Good Mexican food)",
"I thought everyone had a cheese drawer? ",
"Omfg. I lived in Wisconsin for a couple years and then moved back to the east coast about 18 years ago. I still get legitimately angry at “cheese curds” here because they’re fucking bullshit random-shaped lumps of regular cheddar cheese. It took me a long time to accept that, despite the words on the packaging, I was never going to find actual delicious cheese curds here like I had in Wisconsin. I miss the squeak. ",
"r/wisconsin",
"Some bars and restaurants offer it, but most of them can't get the gravy right.\n\nBut any place that offers pub food will offer fried cheese curds, and you can get fresh curds at pretty much every grocer and convenience store in the state.",
"LGA - MKE",
"In Sconnie you get 2 a year as is birth right",
"Cough(uplands)cough",
"Is that marathon cheese?",
"Why is there a cheesecake, cake, cupcake table at a bar? ",
"Is that showed to be it? Sure as hell doesn't look like 40lbs...",
"Does the birthday man have to cut the cheese too?😱",
"Or 100?",
"I love Wisconsin, apparently you can even buy a 4,500lb cheese wheel. http://www.henningscheese.com/mammoth_wheels.html You all are on some next level boxtrolls level stuff!",
"I've been hooked on BellaVitano lately, especially the balsamic and merlot flavors.",
"We fight over which frozen pizza is better AND cheaper ",
"If you're single, move to Wisconsin. We'll probably never hear from you again but you'll be so happy. Except for single women unless you just love cheese and football.",
"Plenty of my friends, and plenty of people I've known, love cheese.\n\nLOVE it. Not obsessed to the point of cheese-block cakes, maybe, but love it.",
"Yessssssss",
"Ray's or GI for me. Miss that city",
"\"Exactly how much cheese have you eaten today!?\"",
"Moved to the West Coast from WI, can confirm that the frozen pizza selection is pitiful and expensive. No Jack's to be found. It's tragic. ",
"It's Chrissy's 40th birthday. Read the cheese, man. ",
"Hot damn!!",
"> in case of an emergency. \n\n\nIn queso emergency*\n",
"I'm from Wisconsin and this is accurate. I typically have no less than 4 types of cheese in my fridge. I eat cheese with nearly every meal. Some meals are just cheese and fruit/crackers. My girlfriend is a cheese maniac. The cheese drawer in her fridge is always filled to overflowing. She has like 9 bags of shredded cheese and 5 bricks at any time. Its a little excessive.",
"All I want has been pronounced by the great Keanu and Alex, better known as Ted Theodore Logan and Bill S Preston, Esquire- to be excellent to each other (fellow beans)!",
"Like...more cheese??",
"Oh my yes, I had some extra sharp aged white and yella, and muenster to follow it up, with some biercheese to wash it down",
"You'll begin to realize that Wisconsin isn't what it advertises itself to be.",
"I feel that's accurate of most places...I thought California was going to be all beach and swimsuits and celebrities when I lived there but all it was was hoy, hot desert, mangey coyotes and donkeys. ",
"That's what happens when you go to Palm springs.",
"All about that moon man tho. underrated af",
"GI?",
"So all of that is for one person? It looks like a once a month office birthday party. ",
">Frozen pizza cooker\n\nAn oven?",
"Poor sue ",
"How's the cheese? ",
"Grand Illusion on water street",
"Excellent.",
"More of a Jacks man myself.",
"> Cheez Whiz\n[Oh yeah?](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51OuAAJLXTL._SX522_.jpg)",
"Butter is just a Kwik Trip away.",
"That's pretty normal isn't it?",
"My local east coast Walmart sells Merkt's Port Wine cheese spread. Another nearby BJ's bulk store sells 4-pack's of Jack's pizza. I have determined that I would donate a kidney for some Usinger's Liverwurst. On the plus side, we have the Cabot extra sharp cheddar that is out of this world. And, well, oysters.",
"Gotta make sure they're squeaky curds! ",
"Man, I feel conflicted in a weird way. We have amazing pizzarias, but what state doesn’t?\n\nSo Chicago is known for their deep dish, New York is known for their Brooklyn style thin crust (which is Godly... we are fortunate to have a New Jersey transplant that opened up a pizza parlor and it is 80% as amazing as what I got in New York...)\n\nAnd Wisconsin is known for frozen pizzas? I feel like there is a reason we aren’t making it our claim to fame...",
"I have a friend who live in Wisconsin according to him they produce more beer than cheese ",
"Nobody’s perfect. ",
"Eh your \"novelty\" cheeses list contains more real cheeses than the rest of the list combined. Gimme dat gouda. ",
"Survival Discs.",
"We're having a barrel of fun..🎵🎵",
"We also are the only place that makes Limberger cheese in the world.",
"From Wisconsin. I know two people with 3 DUIs. And another with like 2. One person became a therapist after his 3ed and sober now. I know someone with a single OWI but that’s weed. ",
"What is this atrocity? Kraft is capitalizing on the fact that people mix them up. Cheez Whiz in a jar has been around since the 50s, but was not available in a can at that time. \"Snackmate\" (renamed Easy Cheese in the 80s) was introduced by Nabisco in 1965. Easy Cheese is the original product. Canned Cheez Whiz is an imposter.",
"Complimentary cheese curd and sausage?? Why can't you guys have a damn ocean?? 😢 I can't do non coastal living.",
"My wife and I are going to be making a trip to the Dells in a few months. Any suggestions as to what to do while there?",
"so next is a vodka drink right?",
"or 99 and 3/3",
"It's not bad. I miss salami cheese and brick cheese the most. And fresh cheese curds. And deep fried cheese curds. ",
"I get where you're coming from. Wisconsin does a lot of stuff really well that we can be proud to show off. Frozen pizza can be an amazing secret just for us insiders. ",
"Better than it sitting in the cupboard until I throw it out when I move, just waste of food. Probably going back to the store next week anyways, get a few $ back minimal effort.",
"....",
"Birthday Cheese?\n\nWe really need that in Europe!",
"/r/keto",
"[I think it was this one.](https://www.jcpenney.com/p/professional-series-stainless-steel-12-inch-pizza-oven/ppr5007569697?pTmplType=regular)",
"Oh... fresh cheese curds... thanks for reminding me that I don’t know where to find these. I forgot how awesome they are",
"I took a road trip once and knew I'd hit Wisconsin when the gas station had a display of cheese shaped like hockey players.",
"Which store will take back food and put it on a shelf again? It would be thrown away anyway. ",
"Oh god, please no, it looks like Norwegian brown cheese, which is horrid.",
"Neither, however, contains cheese.",
"I now know what to request for my next birthday. Had no idea this could be a thing.",
"Love that foot cheese",
"It's not a party without Havarti.",
"You’re probably just middle class then. All the *actually* rich people I know do stuff like this. You don’t get rich by throwing away money. (By the way, I know my comment sounds like an insult, but only cause I worded it the same way you worded yours)",
"Love this!\nI worked at a hotel for years and we had this huuuuge crew of guys come in because they were working on a factory expansion in our town\nThe crew was from Wisconsin. They always stopped by the desk and told me about all the crazy cheese flavors back home and asked what flavors they should bring for us (desk people) to taste!\nI chose chocolate cheese. \nThank you kind, cheesy Wisconsinites! ",
"Ew, that does not look like cheese",
"Well shit, as a swiss i always thougt this was normal ?",
"I hate to break this to you, but this is not just a “Wisconsin thing”.\n\nEveryone uses that as the cheese drawer. Because everyone loves cheese and the refrigerator companies kinda caught onto that awhile back. ",
"I went to a family wedding last year. Instead of a cake, they had various wheels of cheese stacked up, topped with a pie. It was delicious. It wasn't in Wisconsin.",
"There’s no need to be so rude about it. But I do think it’s typically wrong to return food that didn’t have anything wrong with it. The food can’t be restocked, so it’ll have to be thrown out, leading to even more waste. Just don’t buy what you can’t use. ",
"I was also wondering why nobody had pointed out how odd it was to return cheese. ",
"Please don’t return food, even unopened snack products. In the US, anything consumable must be thrown away if returned. Many people aren’t aware of this, so it’s just a heads up for the future. As a country we waste enough food as it is. As a country we waste enough food as it is. :/",
"It could be that it went bad before the expiration date?\n\nI’ve had that happen once or twice in an unopened pack of cheese. Still well before expiration date, but there were clearly a couple mold spots on them. (And no, it wasn’t blue-cheese)",
"It does happen sometimes. The only time I’ve ever gone back to Vons with food was when I bought a gallon of milk, got it home, and it was completely curdled and sour upon opening. Exchanged it for a new one with a receipt showing I’d just bought it. ",
"Eating that shit is the cheese emergency.",
"Genuine question:\n Do you put it on/in something, or just literally cut bits off and eat ‘em straight? ",
"Then a lager drink.",
"Well... Cheese Product.",
"stop it, it's not even 7AM and your making me hungry for lunch bro",
"I mean, I know someone who has just one DUI. For now.",
"My mom returns many items. I can't really stop her. Veggies that spoil too fast, cheese that spoils too fast. ",
"Actually I believe she returned it because it wasn't the right brand. My dad is pretty picky, as she told me it was bought as \"emergency\" cheese\" probably right before the snow storm, but wasn't opened. ",
"Hey don't shit allover Leslie Nielsen comedy genius just cause that guy is an ass. ",
"Oh yea that place, never been",
"\"fuck 41\" -Chrissy\n",
"No brick cheese where you are? ",
"[Did you get me my Cheese Whiz, boy?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXwvL7n7NCQ)",
"Cheesus that’s a lot of cheese",
"It's a figure of speech from the 70s. You don't update that sort of thing. ",
"But do you ever take the time to stop and smell the cheeses?",
"Sounds like my parents fridge, they live in northwestern wisco too.",
"Same here! That makes 3 of us :) ",
"Pretty sure that's cream cheese frosting. Also, you're assuming that there is cake under the frosting.",
"I guess novelty meaning outside the normal staples",
"We not only mastered drinking, we conquered it. Never have I seen more casual alcoholism in my life then after I moved to WI. ",
"how much cheese is too much cheese?...",
"You can't see across either Lake Michigan or Lake Superior and they both produce a Sea Breeze and other odd weather effects associated with the ocean. They're essentially freshwater inland seas. No real smell to them though. ",
"I know, but.... It's not the same. I'm from [here](http://www.californiabeaches.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/bigstock-Sonoma-Coast-s.jpg). I need death wavez and stinky seaweed.",
"As a Man from WI my first thought was \"how much of that could I eat?\" Knowing the answer is ALL THE CHEESE!\n",
"I mean I guess it depends how much you want to spend! It’s not the most expensive place in the world by any means but I think things can add up if you’re doing every little side attraction you can. Noah’s Ark is my favorite park, I like it more than Mt. Olympus but Mt. Olympus has rooms to stay in which gives you extra time at night for “hotel guests only” which is kind of neat. There’s shows that are there like Hypnotists and such. The Duck Boat and/or Jet boat tours are pretty cool and let you see how pretty the area actually is. I’ve heard the Kalahari is the best indoor hotel/park if you were doing an indoor thing. In all honestly I think everything you do is going to be fun if you’ve never been before. \n\nThose are the main things we usually do but check out sites like trip advisor and see what they recommend as well! ",
"100% not the case in the uk, could be for the us but go ahead and return unopened food to shops in the uk, they will resell it. ",
"Yeah, some manufacturers actually stamp the word \"cheese\" on the lip of drawer in the factory to sort out the heathens.",
"That doesn't happen to cheese in a jar.",
"I had no idea that this was a possibility. I know what I want for my next birthday!",
"Look at the can. That's Snack Mate.",
"He clearly stated wine or beer.",
"No, there's cheese in there. There's just a bunch of other stuff, too. ",
"That Merlot is heavenly. Not ashamed to say I can eat the whole block at once. ",
"I don't eat the whole block at once, because I have restraint, but do other people not eat cheese straight? ",
"We have Lake Michigan and Lake Superior. They are kind of like oceans.",
"I'm originally from small town central Wisconsin, currently living in Florida. Nobody knows Usingers, unfried fresh cheese curds, or New Glarus (although I would contend there is much better beer found in the state than Spotted Cow).",
"Welcome to the Midwest.",
"I agree on the Spotted Cow. I like their Moon Man and Road Slush.",
"I'm in Michigan and have a drawer just for cheeses, mostly from Wisconsin. I'm so happy we're neighbors and get so much cheese shipped from there.",
"Then he drinks a cider drink\n\nPS - it took 8 of them to write this apparantly, they must have been very drunk i guess :p \n\nWriters: Abbott, Judith / Bruce, Duncan / Hamer, Darren / Hunter, Nigel / Nutter, Alice / Watts, Louise / Whalley, Allan / Greco, Paul\n\nsource: http://www.lyricsondemand.com/onehitwonders/tubthumpinglyrics.html\n\n",
"33 1/3 is the speed most albums play at. If you look at a record player it says 33 1/3 or 45.",
"In Canada, this 40lb block would cost $230-$270 based on a price of $1.3-1.5 per 100g. Price is based on geolocated value from [Superstore(Alberta)](https://www.realcanadiansuperstore.ca/Food/Dairy-and-Eggs/Packaged-Cheeses/Cheese-Blocks/plp/RCSS001005007001).",
"Did you actually have to look up the lyrics to get the next line?",
"\"Any amount of cheese before a date, is too much cheese!\"",
"Eating that cheese is the shit emergency.",
"actually i looked it up to see if there were any lyrics in there i couldnt remember, and there were:\n\nthese ones \"'Don't cry for me\nNext door neighbour...'\"\n\nfun fact - what i really remember from those days when it was a big track was this bar where this barmaid hated the song, a lot.\nso of course it was on alll the time there when she was on shift lol\n",
"i am too aware of prices because i work the business, but there is a definitely a quality difference.\n\nfor example i am happy that i make enough money i don't need to eat totinos or roma.",
"I love the 3-5$ large pep frozen pizzas it reminds me of growing up poor in the Midwest."
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When it comes to Wisconsin stereotypes I think “man we aren’t really like that” but this was a 40 pound birthday cheese at the bar last night, not a cake...
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/r/pics/comments/7rywfh/i_found_this_note_in_the_box_some_toy_cars_came/
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[
"I turn now good luck everybody else.",
"Inspected by Chang ",
"Send nudes and rice",
"Besuretodrinkyourovaltine",
"Just a name, most likely of a woman, of older age. 吴珍华",
"its upside down btw ;)",
"Thank you very much"
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I found this note in the box some toy cars came in, the cars said made in China but I don’t know if that’s the language. Can anyone translate?
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/r/pics/comments/7ryy26/i_found_the_edge_of_the_world_today/
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[
"There's giant insects in there...run away",
"So B.O.B. was right all along...",
"No, you found Silent Hill. R.I.P\nSeriously though, someone should Photoshop Pyramid Head into this.",
"You'll be able to see further if you increase your draw render distance."
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I found the edge of the world today.
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/r/pics/comments/7ryynz/when_you_hate_your_job_and_theres_no_one_better/
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[
"Lol imo thats really reaching",
"Feel like there's a story, or some kind of bias here. Otherwise this may just be a personal opinion ",
"Very small town and lady likes to sit up there and ignore people at times but there’s honestly no one better in the area\n"
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When you hate your job and there’s no one better to replace you
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/r/pics/comments/7rz1xe/i_have_found_christ_within_my_baked_potato/
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[
"You might have found a cross rather :) \n",
"If this is the second coming some people are gonna be really disappointed... ",
"Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick, I thought 'he' only revealed himself on toast.",
"Yeah I’d scoop him out and throw him in the bin.. then you can enjoy your potato...and Jesus can give his entrance a bit more thought whilst he’s on his way to the dump, in the back of the refuse truck.",
"The Holy Potato of Antioch. Blessed be the Spud.",
"Blessed be thy butter.",
"That's exactly what I did!",
"Poor Jesus! First he dies for our sins now he’s come back to chill out with rats at a municipal waste facility. ",
"Two worms crossing paths... definitely a sign..."
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I have found Christ within my baked potato
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/r/pics/comments/7rz4t3/governor_of_virginia_protesting_during_womans/
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[
"It's not just political, this time it's personal.",
"Cuck lol",
"Badass.",
"So, what did we accomplish yesterday? Anyone? Can anyone tell me? Please?",
"Wow theres more of these being posted.\n\nSomeone must be real proud giving out that gold.",
"Wait, maybe I'm out of the loop but I thought Virginia was a very conservative state? Do they have a democrat governor?"
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Governor of Virginia protesting during Woman’s March in Richmond, VA
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[
"That place looks cold.",
"Why are they holding hands? Isn't homosexuality illegal in Pakistan? ",
"Touching another man in a non sexual way isn't considered to be gay in most cultures.",
"This is a 1000% totally organic and not photo oped natural photo of two guards at the border. To think otherwise is wrong. ",
"The American has checked in ",
"Wikiwikiwak:\n\nIn Arab countries, Africa, some parts of Asia, and traditionally in some Mediterranean and Southern European cultures (especially in Sicily) males also hold hands for friendshipand as a sign of respect;[3] a custom which is especially noticed by societies unused to it, for instance when, in 2005, Crown Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia held hands with the US-American president George W. Bush",
"Is there a backstory for this picture? Who took it? A journalist? Another border guard?",
"Do... do you think... that they're boyfriends :^)",
"As someone who has been around those parts and lived through a situation similar to this, I can tell you that holding hands signifies something very different than love there. It is more like a deep bond of friendship and respect. You'll often see good friends holding hands, and being offered to hold a hand is a pretty big deal. So yeah. Just because this seems weird to us westerners doesn't mean it is the case at all there. World culture is phenomenal. #themoreyouknow",
"Downvoted for asking an honest question, nice. I too would like to know why these typically gay hating countries are OK with this.",
"The snow probably does that",
"1. Is holding hands even considered gay in the west before say the 20th century or even before WW2?\n\n2. Same with not wearing clothes in locker rooms. You see old dudes walking around naked in locker rooms all the time in the US. It's the recent young generations who came up with this whole 'that's so gay' thing.",
"They devoted their lives to defending borders, but their love knew none.\n\nBrokeback Mountain 2, coming soon to a theatre near you. ",
"1. Not sure... I mean culture in general was fairly anti-homosexual back then. I would imagine that it wasn't well received if it was a thing.\n2. I would put that in a slightly different category... There is no contact there. That's what seems to freak people out. But I understand the sentiment.",
"It’s not considered weird when some men hold hands in Pakistan. Not sure where/when it started. Not all do it, mostly I’ve seen some of the lower socio-economic background men do it - the local ones. The ones who are ex-pats or have travelled abroad more frequently (filthy rich) and have become more westernised don’t do it at all. \nAnd yeah it’s weird because you can’t be openly gay there (doesn’t stop there being a large gay community - same goes for any Arab country, especially Saudi Arabia). \n\nSource: I’m Pakistani ",
"Not at all. Back in the day men had far less issues showing one another affection through touch. https://www.artofmanliness.com/2012/07/29/bosom-buddies-a-photo-history-of-male-affection/",
"Nope. Ràng wǒmen chéngwéi péngyǒu. So yeah. Google is your friend!",
"The fingers intertwining is a bit much",
"Wow, I love this so much.",
"This would make an interesting movie. \n\nIt was a love that could not be. \n\nBrokeback Borders",
"Now the Chinese guy is dead. Good job reddit.",
"Some of those men probably weren’t straight. They probably didn’t consider themselves “gay” in the modern sociological sense, but not what we consider “straight” either "
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Chinese and Pakistani guards at the border between the two countries. [683 x 1024]
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[
"Chromatic abberation?",
"Reflection in the lens - this happens with simple lens designs. From the shape it looks like it would be a plastic lens.",
"Oh",
"Looks otherworldly",
"Dont know",
"/u/Yama0106, thank you for your submission. Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule IV - Title violates title guidelines.\n\nYour title must not ask for general information or feedback. \n\nYou can read the full information about our title guidelines at /r/pics/w/titles\n\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/Yama0106&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rz5nt/what_is_that_blue_thing_it_happens_when_i_take/?context=10\\))"
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What is that blue thing? It happens when I take the phone camera to the light.
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/r/pics/comments/7rz6jq/posters_from_womens_march_found_very_close_to_a/
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"Not a picture of who dropped them, no picture of recycling bin.\n\nReporting score: F--",
"They were told to leave them by fences. Not to clog the trash cans and that the street cleaners will dispose of them. Same thing as last year. ",
"That hand has 5 fingers and no thumb ",
"This is the same thing that happens and hippie festivals ",
"How else would people know that its the middle finger?",
"Ahhhh but there is a subtle line drawn to the left to indicate a slight shadow of the thumb....intricate details of an all too put together woma....oh wait it was added after the fact? and there is still too many fingers? BOOOO, boo this person. ",
"Could have just taken them home... where they made them. I support womans march but that's just littering ",
"Must be an American thing... ",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/7rybxc/leftovers_from_the_march_yesterday/\n\nI am not certain if you are making a very subtle joke. ",
"It’s not littering when they are literally told to leave them there bc they will be picked up later by trash men. ",
"Trash MEN?",
"The trash women took the day off to attend the rally. Only the trash men worked that day.",
"Maybe next time you could include the recycling bin in the photo? ",
"They were told to leave them by the fence and men would pick up after them later.",
"Calm down Hillery",
"Because they followed directions and left them exactly where they were asked to by the organizers.",
"Why couldn't they just take the signs home and not litter or make people clean it up or NOT MAKE THE REPORTERS TWIST THE STORY",
"Something tells me these women were already upset about being women long before Trump was elected...",
"why cant women have that job too? Shame on you for gendering a job to men only perpetuating stereotypes. #herjobtoo",
"Pretty sure OP was being sarcastic. ",
"reddit bronze",
"We had a half white president before him, it would have been racist to complain.",
"That's right people! \n\nFighting for Democracy is a dirty JOB!",
"yeah every time we see litter after some so called \"rally\" the rhetoric is \" They were told to leave them there\" ,.. I suspect this is just littering. ",
"Just.... Wow...",
"Hey, at least you didn’t imply that I’m a homosexual like you did with the last guy for not agreeing with you 👍🏽",
"Seriously. We know people were told to do this, we know RWers at the last one made faked videos about it.\n\nAnd we know Conservatives actually don't care about pollution.\n"
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Posters from women's march found very close to a recycling bin...
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"Nauseatin, right theremmmhmm.",
"I hope someone got that away from him. Can't be good to have a plastic shoe in your stomach.",
"Stupid crocodile, those go on your feet.",
"It’s like a chew toy.",
"So are you volunteering to try to take it out of it's mouth?",
"He's just carrying his young",
"If I can get my socks away from the cat I can get a shoe away from a crocodile. How much harder can it be?",
"Not really. That’s an alligator."
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Truly Sickening Display of Cannibalism
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"Someone found $20 when what they really wanted was a peanut ",
"Looks like someone was destroying evidence",
"Movie prop money.",
"I thought movie prop money could only be one-sided. ",
"Is that Russian text?",
"What's with the Cyrillic writing? 0_o\n\nWas this found in the US, or somewhere else?",
"Nope.[funny money](https://imgur.com/a/6EDfi) ",
"Interesting! I did some googling: it looks like legally it has to be one-sided and either larger or smaller by a considerable margin. But the secret service doesn't seem to enforce that very strongly. Prop money from Rush Hour 2 was found being passed off as real, but the film company was only forced to destroy their inventory. ",
"Found in U.S. South Florida. ",
"It says souvenir in Russian"
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Found in grass on my run today.
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"What the fuck ",
"That’s really gross ",
"Wow",
"What’s happening in this picture?",
"Is.. is that a plastic foot? ",
"If it hadn't failed what was it supposed to do???",
"This disproves *”I’m just big boned”*",
"What was the intent of the wrap (other than compression)? Is this just a sprain, or is it a break...? Whats going on in this?",
"No discolouration so likely to be a sprain but either way, I’d want it x-rayed! ",
"She is Pregnant, tried to the swelling down and it just went where the pressure was weakest and this is what it looked like when we took off the wrap. ",
"She might be better off with compression socks. \n"
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Failed wrap!
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[
"That is a bit screwy. 2 12-packs would only be $2.00 more than an 18-pack.",
"Yea...The 12-pack comes out to $0.83 / can vs $1 / can for the 18-pack.\n",
"I would take this as a sign that the store does not think people who drink these beers are competent at math. \n\nETA: schpelling. "
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This store's beer pricing doesn't make any sense.
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"[credit to one Shaun Peterson](http://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/photographers-tempt-danger-for-great-images-on-ore-coast/283-509538685)",
"That’s crazy! Wonder how often the lighthouse has been rebuilt!",
"Don't know about this lighthouse specifically, but they're engineered to stand up to this kind of stuff. There are lighthouses built hundreds of years ago that are still in operation.",
"Does Shaun Peterson have an instagram or website where i can link his photo from?",
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"You can view Shaun's photography at his website: https://www.smpetersonphotography.com/",
"[here's his website](https://www.smpetersonphotography.com/)\n\n[and a local news story of how he took this photo](http://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/photographers-tempt-danger-for-great-images-on-ore-coast/283-509538685)",
"We here in the PNW are particularly proud of our many & satisfying \"Paaa-TOOSH!!\" sites. If you enjoyed Mt St Helens, wait until you hear what we're preparing for Mt Rainier & Mt Baker! Coming soon! "
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"Man i want a video game where i'm like an insect walking through grass and small plant forests n stuff.",
"Bruh how high are you",
"I'm on way too many mushrooms for this shit ",
"Not grass. Moss?",
"Kinda looks like a tiny night club for ants ",
"They basically made one, it was called Pikmin and it was great.",
"Bro, there was a guy who posted on Reddit about how he was making a full fledged Ant RPG. I think on /r/gaming or maybe /r/pcgaming, few years ago. I don't remember exactly, but I think the story was his initial business partner fucked him over financially before they could shop around to publishers/outside help for completion? "
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"West Point is allowing gay marriage to happen on their property? That’s cool. Good for them. ",
"They’re both Apache pilots?",
"I'm sure drumpf is on fire right now.",
"Apache Pilots? In my day we just called it gay. - Norm Macdonald",
"Congratulations! I wish you both many years of happiness together!",
"Their honeymoon is going to smell like open ass! ",
"[Story with more info](http://thehill.com/policy/defense/army/369793-first-active-duty-same-sex-couple-married-at-west-point)",
"Crossing swords is an occupational hazard",
"Pence is both angry and aroused.",
"This was just [last weekend.](https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/19/fashion/weddings/two-active-duty-soldiers-marry-in-same-sex-wedding-at-west-point.html)\n\n*Captain Franchino married Captain Hall on Jan. 13 in the Cadet Chapel at the United States Military Academy in West Point, N.Y., where they are believed to be the first active-duty, same-sex couple to exchange vows at the legendary Army post.*\n\nCool. Congrats dudes.",
"And got to the sword fighting right away.",
"Any good honeymoon does. ",
"Trot your attack helicopter jokes out on these guys, see how it goes for you.",
"There are certain things that are changing in the best way.",
"\"West Point is overrated anyway. They'd never admit a real patriot like me. Sad!\"",
"Mother isn't going to like this but I feel something rising down south.",
"Well, if you had to pick one thread, this is probably the most relevant one",
"Mother had to take this photo away from him.",
"I don't like those damn Apache Pilots, but man do they really fix up a neighborhood. ",
"Is... is this sarcasm? I can't tell",
"your username upsets me buddy",
"Not to call bullshit, but both the guy and girl look white, not Apache.",
"Touching swords really made this picture.",
"Classic Apache Pilots ",
"Fuck off Nazi.",
"ITT: mostly not disappointed with the comments. ",
"Usually right after this point following the couple's kiss, the last sabermen lets them through with one tapping the bride's ass with his saber saying, \"welcome to the [branch of service], ma'am.\" Does this still happen in this case? This is the only wedding logistics detail I care about. \n\nEdit: it's an honest question. Believe it or not, as wonderful as this is, it's still new to most of us. ",
"Hate filled fap",
"I was going to make a dick joke but God damn this picture is cool.\n\nPerfect example of why us liberals are pushing policies like this. Two guys that will soon be just as unhappily married as the rest of us. They go out on the line to defend Americans right to be unhappy. They should have the same opportunities to express their unhappiness as the rest of us.",
"Lol the guy on the right.. i assume grinning because “touching tips/crossing swords”",
"Imagine the shit they must have put up with... Great step forward, though. ",
"Typically, the bride gets smacked on the ass by the last sword guy. I wonder if they both got smacked or no one...",
"Who gets slapped in the ass with the sword in this situation?",
"Both are captains it seems.",
"I'm sure Pence got a rise out of this.",
"What is this supposed to mean?",
"Bigly.",
"All white REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE",
"subtle-- \"crossing swords\"",
"LOL - he should end the shutdown then. Dems are staring him down and he is going to blink because he is the weakest President we have ever had the displeasure of electing. Carter had thicker skin and commanded more respect. He can't even get his own wife to respect him, lol.",
"I thought they were cav scouts.",
"i've now made it my personal mission to upvote all ur comments. heh.",
"So deeply lovely, it would be sad if those so insecure in their masculinity felt it an opportunity to express hateful sentiments. ",
"NO STOP YOU KNOW NOT WHAT YOU DO",
"yeah no that's too much fucking work i've stopped now.... i tried. at least i tried.\n\nAND I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I DO",
"What a wonderful brave new world.\ncongrats!",
"Facebook >>",
"I figured a couple possible scenarios. \n\n1. Both smacked.\n\n2. Neither smacked, but that kinda breaks tradition, so not likely. \n\n3. Guy on right is smacked, as the guy on left is the one who seems to have engaged the kiss in the manner a groom would to his wife in military weddings. \n\n4. Left sword guy reached across and smacked right sword guy's butt instead, breaking all expectations. ",
"gays too should be allowed to mow down innocent people with gatling guns and missiles\n\nwait no that can’t be right",
"Wow. Just wow. That’s fucked up. ",
"Who? Someone who is irrelevant? Hillary didn't win anything. Trump won, and proceeded to show the entire world what an abject failure he is. Lie after lie, golf trip after golf trip, lol...and Melania can slap his hand in public and like the beta male he is, he just tucks his tail between his legs and scampers in front of TV with a diet coke and big mac.",
"Both.",
"If it was a \"welcome to the service\" gesture, then I would guess neither gets tapped, since they are already in.",
"https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7DbQ7Imqi1s/maxresdefault.jpg",
">Failure?\n\nYes. Half of what you said is just a lie, and the other half is still due to Obama (stock market, for example - Obama's policies are still in effect for a few more months).\n\n>FISA memo\n\nThe one written by Nunes? LMAO - that will **never** see the light of day, Nunes will keep that shit locked up forever. You guys speculating is way, way more valuable.\n\n>Do you have any facts like I've listed\n\nLMAO - come back in 6 mo to a year when the little that Trump has done starts affecting the economy. You won't like it though.",
"3edgie5me",
"> Race relations are improving\n\nSeriously? Even if that is the case, you thank Trump for that?",
"You could’ve just said “I’m a retard,” we would’ve understood.",
"The way the guy on the right is smiling at them belongs to mademesmile. You can see just how happy he is for them.",
"Whenever I try at work I have to talk to HR. ",
"I could have gone with less",
"Thank God. For a moment I thought they let women pilot those things. ",
"He's United people against him. ",
"Crossing swords in public...bold",
"Angroused?",
"Nobody wants to be your friend. ",
"D'aww that's cute",
"How very Top Gun.",
"Do that anywhere else and you'll be sittin in tha big house",
"wow kinda funny that both of their names are Captain",
"Are the guys at the end protecting the grooms' dicks? ",
"Now I want to know what happened.",
"Just the tips",
"I see four possible scenarios.\n\n1. Both got smacked\n2. Neither got smacked\n3. Left one got smacked\n4. Right one got smacked",
"So, who makes up the honor guard here, because sword dude on left is Infantry (blue cord), and sword dude on right is Field Artillery (red stripe on cuff and red on epaulet). Friends? Classmates (if they're academy grads)?",
"Pence has a furious hard on for this kind of thing.",
"This is far from the gayest thing that happens in the military on a daily basis.",
"definitely queer",
"\"Are you kidding me? Look at those cheekbones!\"\n\n\\- Senator Elizabeth Warren.\n\n\n",
"Yeah, they look so oppressed",
"I reckon there was some serious \"sword fighting\" and \"stabbing\" going on after the nuptials came to a head.\n\n*cough* I'll show myself out. ",
"Eww...the swords in the background are all uneven. ",
"Great balls of fire.",
"They're white apache pilots.",
"Aroungry?",
"now i want to see some smackin‘",
"And after this they each shared a long bowner",
"so what",
"Their identity is their sex life, is their occupation, is their hobby, is their duty. Now, which one do you think flies in front?",
"Neither got smacked. The ass slap is a symbolic “Welcome to the military.” They both are already soldiers.",
"Apache is the species and not the race in this case.",
"*sees old photo of MLK smiling*\n\n\"Yeah, he looks so oppressed\"",
"> The ass slap is a symbolic “Welcome to the military.” \n\nI've not heard this, so I went to wikipedia, ofc.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saber_arch#The_ceremony\n\n>Before releasing the couple, the saber bearer to the couple's left gives the bride a gentle swat on her backside with his saber, announcing \"Welcome to the (insert branch) Ma'am!\" If the bride is in the military, this step is omitted.\n\nWell alright then. ",
"Live in the deep south, redneck country. Went to a Mardi Gras ball last night and one of the crew’s duke and duchess were a married gay couple. They are greatly respected business men in the community. Some fuckers had their dick in a knot over it, but for the most part people were cool with it. ‘Bout fuckin time, I mean come on folks, it’s 2018 - time to let these old ridiculous notions go. Congratulations and much love to this couple ",
"Do they always cross swords... I’ll leave now ",
"why not both?",
"It's 100% religious folks, that claim thy follow religions of love. And ignore pretty much all notions of sin, except for some obscure shit said in a couple places. \n\nI also think most homophobes are secretly gay ",
"Which one identifies as an attack helicopter?",
"Why can't I quit you",
"Ayyyy",
"Arangry?",
"When I was in the army a guy told me a story. When he was a recruit, he was on guard duty at night. He checked the name roster on the door and saw Alik. Saari, Alik. Salo, Alik. Seppänen, Alik. Suominen... and he was wondering.. how many guys named \"Alik\" there are? What a coincidence. And those sounded like a foreign name too.\n\nAlik. is abbreviation for alikersantti and means corporal.",
"Haha crossing swords ",
"So many crossed swords (Lenny face) ",
"Found the bottom. Oh wait..you were a sailor, of course you're the bottom. ",
"it's called a hate boner. ",
"Horngry. ",
"Honestly my brain went, \"they don't look native American. *pause* ooooh helicopter pilots.\"",
"Pensive \n",
"I came here to find the answer to this question. ",
"The catcher.",
"Online",
"Wow this is really gay",
"But also meanwhile people are eating laundry detergent, a reality TV personality is president, and the last Star Wars movie sucked. ",
"So, you're tiresome, boring, uncreative, and stupid.",
"I love how many here are pretending this is just normal. ",
"Apaches have inline seats. Cant fly side by side.",
"They smacked themselves?",
"Two early twenty-something, good-looking white dudes who excelled academically in high-school, are now attending an elite educational institution where they will be guaranteed a lucrative government job upon graduation for as long as they desire, met each other at work, love their employer enough to get married in their friggin uniform, and have at least 8 really good friends among the two of them...\n\nTell me more about how oppressed these lads are. [I'm all ears](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/06/being-gay-west-point-after-dont-ask-dont-tell/amp)",
"Typical Americans. Friendly fire.",
"“You can be my wing man anytime” lovingly look into each other’s eyes “nawh you can be mine”",
"Asbury Park.",
"Which one is the power bottom? ",
"It's not like they have a choice.\n\nIt's federal property. If they were letting heterosexual couples marry and denying homosexual couples, that'd be illegal.",
"You have literally no idea what these guys may or may not have gone through to get where they are. And since none of us knows anything about them, this discussion is completely pointless.",
"just the tips.",
"O, captain! my captain!",
"They probably didn’t have to put up with anything because they were forced to keep it a secret. Different shitty situation.",
"[Ha, Gaaayyyyyy!](https://giphy.com/gifs/ha-13OYNXi0uTM6vS)",
"Ackshually...ah fuck it; scroll up, it's explained near the top of the thread if you're curious.",
"Oh",
"Eisenhower is rolling over in his grave. ",
"Aw, that's nice.",
"*Sees photo of the World Trade Centre*\n\nTwo early fifty-something, good looking towers who excelled architecturally in drafting and are now an elite financial institution where they will be guaranteed to create lucrative jobs for as long as they desire, met each other while being built, love their city enough to be built right downtown, and have at least 8!!!!!!!!!!!! Really good workers among the two of them...\n\nTell me more about how terrorized these lads are. I'm all ears...",
"I knew what OP was talking about. Just making a gay joke. lol\n\nPretty sure neither actually gets slapped with the sword in this case. If it were a lesbian wedding, it'd likely be both.",
"Which one's the main rotor and which one's the tail rotor?",
"How am I supposed to feel like a special snowflake for being gay when nowadays everyone is? :'(",
"This is the best response I've seen on any comment today.\n10/10 pun.",
"When both spouses are already in the service, no one gets the butt tap. The gesture is meant to say \"welcome to the [insert branch of military]\" so if both people are already in, they skip it.",
"Wow those ceremonial uniforms are spectacular ",
"The last two",
"Wonder what Apache themed vows would be.",
"Thankfully it is more normal now than a few years ago, and will be wholly unremarkable (or no more remarkable than any other wedding) hopefully within my lifetime.",
"Still not as gay as topgun.",
"Heh crossed swords",
"It is. Welcome to 2018 ya dinosaur.",
"Ah, okay. Thought it was only done with gender; read that wrong, my bad.",
"Twincest? If you're gonna be edgy at least put some thought into it bro ",
"And yet shit like that happens all the time. So this kinda actually means something. ",
"This is a weird one. The one in front is the one who fires the big missiles. ",
"I... I don't get it.",
"That's still covered by his list of 4. He never said who was doing the smacking. 😁",
"I was at this wedding AMA",
"They are only capable of being a power bottom cause the one on the top is generating so much",
"I know the dude on the right. He was on my lacrosse team growing up. He was a good defenseman. ",
"Wtf, swords are to close to those dicks. ",
"Crossing swords in more way than one",
"HA HA HA HA!!!! You are a fucking genius. Thank you.",
"Crossing swords eh? ",
"Could you cite an example of this happening post July 9, 2015?",
"You have to love a man in uniform. They're not gay, just overcome with admiration. Better than most couples I'd say.",
"where is the girl",
"Crossing swords, huh??? I thought that was the red line...",
"*semen",
"Oo rah!",
"These two guys just confirmed all the suspicions mud Marines have about airdales.",
"Perfect. ",
"Because I don’t like mass murder?\n\nTo be clear you are defending [this](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/yemen-strike-eight-year-old-american-girl-killed-al-awlaki). Mass murder, especially of children, is evil. Don’t defend it.",
"Ikr! It's such a pleasant surprise!",
"Well I like to think I have a little bit of an idea as a veteran who used to be a twenty-something...\n\nThe notion that they had to \"put up with a lot of shit\" is contradicted entirely by this image and the article I posted that's already 3 years old... I just find it slightly humorous that people still have this knee-jerk \"so brave\" reaction. \n\nLighten up, Francis.",
"My neighbor was an asshole. They blew up his house.",
"Yes, it's friends/family of the couple. At my wedding here we had all friends. Anyone that the couple knows that is military is able to participate as a sabre bearer for the couple.",
"Star Wars 8 was awesome.",
"Loving the ceremonial touching of the tips.",
"Religious homophobes think everyone is gay. Conservative churches usually give boys a special talk at around puberty age where they are told it's perfectly normal for boys to sometimes have sexual thoughts about boys, and if they feel troubled by it, talk to the pastor. The gay kids get worried that they are only having those thoughts about boys, not girls, ask the pastor if something is wrong with them, and they are told it's normal, everyone is like that, and you just have to resist temptation. This is why they hate everything that seems to normalize being in gay relationships... Part of it's jealousy because they really want to do gay stuff but feel they shouldn't, and part of it is fear society will break down because, if we accept gayness, everyone will be gay because everyone is just as gay as them. They don't see gays as being a different orientation, they are just people who can't resist the urges they believe everyone has.",
"\"Marry\"",
"Ass burry. ",
"https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/gay-kentucky-couple-denied-marriage-license-controversial-clerk/story%3fid=33489787\n\nThat was easy",
"Used to be a homophobe.\n\nI'm not saying I like dick, but $20 is $20",
"How are they still in West Point as Cadets and yet be Commissioned Captains?",
"Probably. Fuck that guy. ",
"Disgusting",
"I'm not gay but I got a 20 and this dick ain't gonna suck itself ",
"Turns out neither. It's also neither if the bride is already in the military. Turns out the slap is to welcome them to the military. ",
"How on earth do you reach that conclusion from a single photo?! You don’t know anything about these people, but you’re comfortable making sweeping generalisations about their lives. This thread is about oppression of gay people, and that’s clearly not something you have in common with them, so I don’t understand why you think you have insight about their lives that nobody else here does.",
"The amount of not understanding here is fantastic. I have to assume you're trolling, to which I say:\n\nnice work.",
"You've come to the right place. No homo bro.",
"Their swords are touching.",
"Time to jump on it. Jump on it.",
"I didn't think people could be in the service and marry? Isn't or wasn't there fraternizing regulations?",
"Ass bury",
"And so dies the nation.",
"sure looks normal to me",
"No, can you cite an example of the thing we're actually talking about.\n\nNot one loon in a county clerk's office denying a couple a marriage license. (Who went to jail by the way, because what she did is illegal.)\n\nAn example where the *federal* government denied a same-sex couple their right to marry somewhere where a different-sex couple could.",
"You are correct about the normal way in which this is carried out, but since there's nothing official about the practice it's really up to those that make up the arch to decide what to do. In this case they both got slapped because, why not. I know because I was there for it.",
"GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY",
" Freedom of speech is only protected from the interference of a government entity and does not protect from places such as this subreddit. ",
"It's a clearly similar example. If you won't acknowledge that then you're just being pedantic. ",
"The amusing thing is that you think people care if you accept it or not. \n\nWe don't.",
"Reddit is not the government. They can censor whatever they want.",
"\"Ok?\"",
"Opportunity for SJWs to pat their own backs over a photo? To the front page we go!",
"Welcome to reality, buddy.",
"Yeah, that. ",
"HA!",
"When the bride doesn’t show up you just have to make do!",
"That's sexist. Sexism is wrong. Being wrong is for women. ",
"Two sausages",
"I would be worried someone would accidently get cut.",
"Do they collectively identify as an Apache Attack Helicopter?",
"You take your up vote and like it",
"Funny, they don't look Apache.",
"It’s “hooah” for the Army, my dude. ",
"It's about as similar as McDonalds refusing to serve black people vs a single McDonalds employee at a single franchise refusing to serve black people.\n\nThey're different on an order of magnitudes.",
"That's so gay",
"What’s wrong with being sexy?",
"I'm sure it's happened at some point.",
"So if the bride would be the one in the military, would they do it to the groom? Are they required to smack a mans ass for that?",
"Because you're willfully ignorant of the fact that the only reason you have the freedom of speech to label the military as mass murderers is because a military secured that right for you. Duh. \n\nBlocked.",
"What if the bride is in, but the groom is not?",
"*neckbeard intensifies*",
"He probably gets spanked. ",
"Which Captain? His Captain!",
"I might be straight, but I've a raging freedom boner right now. ",
"Are the others trying to kill them?",
"That’s false though. What does murdering a bunch of people in Iraq have to do with my freedom of speech? Nothing. If that were true, how would this even justify mass murder anyway? It would not.\n\nWhy not be honest and stop trying and failing to defend mass murderers?",
"So what is it like being a sentient sword?",
"Gayyyyy",
"Haha. Gaaaayyyyyy",
"They're both officers, so it's allowed. ",
"Reddit is a private enterprise, they can and will censor posts as they see fit. It is not a violation of the 1st amendment. News flash-you also don't have 1st amendment protections in your place of employment (although there are some exceptions). Also, you mean *stifling*, not stippling.",
"Title it like you meant it “Upvote gays getting married or you are not supportive of the rights they should have. Also you are a homophobe”",
"He get a poke in the butt, and a \"welcome to the Navy.\"",
"\"Attention! Present arms! Ready, frott!\"",
"Yup. That's the MARIN CORE for ya.",
"Ayy thats vinny ",
"You missed the entire purpose of this comment. lmfao.",
"Do they both identify as attack helicopters? Either way, they're adorable.",
"/u/[deleted] was right when he said \n\n> [removed]\n\nand I fully support /u/[deleted]",
"Cool. Nice virtue signaling. ",
"that's the joke.jpg",
"Ass Berries?",
"Have you ever seen those pornos with the all male casts? They're terrible! Who are they even making these for?",
"Ha!! Thanks for the follow up!",
"Yeah some days they cant even fly straight",
"Yeah. Thanks for cluing me in on it's purpose.",
"I'm just trying to get a grasp on your username.\n\nI voted for Donald Trump as our president. Based on that info, and nothing more, am I correct in understanding that you want me to die? You believe that this world, and by extension your life, would be better if I were dead?",
"Dingle Berries.",
"I just pretend they got to the shoot early. - Dave Attell",
"These are dingleberries, man. ",
"It worries me that the US Constitution has twenty-seven amendments and most people don't even know what the first really means.\n\n(I'm not disagreeing with you. Just musing.)",
"I understand it and I wouldn’t expect anything different, I just wish people didn’t sensor so much. That’s all. ",
"Sweeping generalizations? \n\n- They are young twenty something's (fact)\n\n- They are good looking (fact)\n\n- They are white (fact)\n\n- They performed well academically in high-school (fact)\n\n- They are attending an elite academic institution (fact)\n\nThis is getting exhausting... can you maybe just tell me what you disagree with? Might save us some time...",
"Gross",
"You are 100% correct.",
"Gay are murderers too. Nice to see. ",
"Sure - that they haven’t experienced oppression due to being gay. Cite a source on that one and I’ll be happy to concede your conclusion.",
"that's a paddlin'",
"Yes.",
"I think the point is that they both *identify* as attack helicopters.\n\n(I’m sorry, I’m so sorry, but come one someone had to say this right?) 😇",
"Hehe... They're crossing swords",
"That's why I want a boat. A boat doesn't come home one day and say I'm not a boat anymore, I think I'm a ferry. - Dave Attell",
"You asked for one example. ",
"> Pence\n\n[Meat gazing Mike....](https://i.redd.it/gm6jtcohyrcx.png)",
"I am I too late for a crossing swords joke?",
"Nothing says love like a guard of honor in the most expensive cheap suits you'll ever wear.\n\nAt least the grooms have some dress sense.",
"Not for me. I came here wanting to see a shitshow. Instead all I got is genuine human kindness.",
"I am sure some people deleted their post after getting so many down votes. ",
"I’m happy for them. But there is a couple sword fight jokes ready for deployment. ",
"You can also corral a few cadets to do the honors outside the chapel. They're usually up for it, especially if they get food out of the deal.",
"> Just the tips\n\nThey're back to Mouse Rat now.",
"This deserves far more upvotes, but most people don't get the joke. :/",
"Not if the bride is in the military already. It’s the spouse that is not in that is welcomed with a smack.",
"I can’t believe I had to come this far down for a Cav Scout joke. ",
"It is now. Get used to it.",
"sword fighting hmm",
"They are both captains in the active duty army. They were cadets some time ago (which is why they wanted to go back to West Point for the wedding) ",
"An example of the federal government discriminating against same-sex marriage.\n\nNot some random municipal clerk.",
"It’s ughh...LIT?",
"Thanks Obozo u’ve done a great job fcking dividing an making America gay again ",
"Guess he’s letting one in the goal now.",
"How can you tell which one is the top gun?",
"Both are active duty, neither stationed at West Point. Both are graduates though which is why they wanted to have their wedding at West Point Chapel. ",
"Cockpit still means the same thing it did yesterday.",
"I got your back means something a bit different to them....",
"How is it that the US military seems far more progressive these days than the government? Are the old movie tropes of the trigger happy general and the hazing a thing of the past? Does the military take a full on attitude towards openness in order to boost recruits? “We have changed and will take anyone”?",
"Fifth scenario- the best man got smacked by the couple getting married.",
"Imagine if both your parents were apache pilots... ",
"haha you are right",
"Oh, I'm sorry Salty McSalterton. I'll explain why it was funny.\n\nThe commenter, /u/dissenter_the_dragon, is making fun of people who get up in arms about gay marriage or race. He's mocking people who think marriage is only between a man or woman by saying \"both the guy and the girl\" when it's obvious they are both dudes. But in a double whammy, he mocks people who get up in arms about race by referring to Apache Indians instead of the military equipment.\n\nAnd now that it has been explained, it is no longer funny. I hope this helps Salty.",
"That’s state, not federal.",
"Wow... this image fits all definitions of gay",
"One of the first gay guys to get married in the army after DADT was repealed was in my platoon. Pmuch nobody cared. The only thing that changed was he got called faggot *less* than everyone else afterwards.",
"See, now I just feel like you're being a troll.\n\nDo you genuinely want me dead based solely on the fact that I voted for Donald J. Trump as our president. Yes or No?",
"Badger wins.",
"If it's deleted, then the person chose to delete, if it says it's removed then a mod has deleted it. ",
"As someone who served during Don't Ask Don't Tell - and saw multiple very good soldiers (better than hundreds of other soldiers in the same Company) discharged because of their sexual orientation - this is wild.",
"And in the example you cited, *that person went to jail*. If anything, it proves his point , not yours.",
"If they are on time and on target I don't give a flying fuck what they do on their spare time.",
"This is so cute. Congrats to them!",
"Not the only swords crossed that day. \n\nCongratulations fellas!",
"It's not the federal government so not similar at all...",
"\\- 2018\n\n(or the article linked in my original comment about being a gay cadet at Westpoint written 3 years ago...)",
"u/FuckYouWithAloha probably edited the wiki before commenting, I'd take this to r/karmacourt if I were you\n\nEdit: /s",
"Except this is the military, they aren't civilians. The General in charge of West Point, or the Chaplain assigned to the base could most certainly deny a marriage with no reason given and never face repercussions.\n\nI think it's very important that people understand the distinction between military personnel bound by UCMJ and civilians afforded basic Constitutional Rights - to understand how important this picture is.\n\nEDIT: To clarify I'm not saying a General can use a basis of \"You can't get married because you're gay.\" to deny a marriage. I don't think any General in their right mind would do something like that. I'm saying that UCMJ gives them a lot more leeway, and that (in my experience when I did serve) it is not out of the ordinary for an Officer to deny a marriage request without necessarily giving a concrete reason.\n\nI served before Don't Ask Don't Tell was repealed. I admittedly know nothing about the policy's around it and made my original statement without being clear enough on what I meant. A General in the military has an immense amount of power over military personnel living on his base by comparison to, say, a Judge in a civilian court.",
"🎶 Playing! Playing with the boys! 🎶",
"Meh, most people in the Army don’t care if you’re gay and you do your job. If you’re a lazy shitbag they’re gonna fuck with you over everything. 99% of the time the people who say they were hazed bc they were gay are the whiny fucks who always skipped out on work. They don’t belong in the military but it has nothing to do with being gay. This was true long before DADT was repealed. ",
"They're wearing bowties so I'd suspect it's a formal, \"mess dress\" uniform where headdress isn't worn.\n\nEdit: the grooms both appear to have miniature medals, further convincing me this is a mess uniform. ",
"Apparently you. Lol never seen them",
"They're crossing swords. Gaaaaaaaay.\n\nBut seriously though congrats.",
"Asbury Park is improving immensely ",
"Hell yeah ",
"Nah, DADT ended in 2011, these guys have been in for about 4 years. ",
"At the bottom of the page you can see that the article was last edited 18 days ago.",
"That is the gayest thing I've seen all day",
"He will ride him anytime",
"So, I get that you're being sarcastic, but a friend of mine is a chick and she's an Apache Pilot. ",
"They will have fun in the cockpit tonight",
"Everybody sick of thinly veiled politics unsubbed over the past couple of days, with good reason.",
"Swords aren’t supposed to touch /s ",
"Having an uneven sword is perfectly normal. ",
"You'll love /r/upvotebecausegay\nEdit: /r/downvotebecauseupvotebecausegay",
"Oh Jesus, one of those apache pilots is gonna get so much shit at work tomorrow \n\nEdit: for showing up on Reddit, not for his lifestyle (which has been common knowledge for years and never a problem)",
"It was a joke",
"NO",
"Disgraceful! I can’t believe they excluded women in this picture! All those uniforms and not one woman in one! What has society become!! ",
"I sexually Identify as a dead meme. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of spamming other users with my unfunny joke. People say to me that a person who does this is a laughable idiot and I'm fucking retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having these words glued all over my body. From now on I want people to refer to me as an overused dead meme as my preferred pronouns and respect my right to paste unfunny jokes to reddit in hope of receiving virtual internet points. If you can't accept me you're funny and mentally stable and need to check your choice of subreddits. Thank you for being so understanding.\n\n",
"and intrigued!",
"What the fuck",
"That dual BAH tho. ",
"Yeah they’re about to cross swords alright \n\n- Yall are too soft hahaha ! ",
"just let it go. You're just being petty",
"Crossing swords? I see what you did there 😉👌🏼",
"Nasty MOTHERFUCKERS",
"Ha! Best comment in the thread, right here. ",
"Is accepting gay people such a foreign concept to you that you think everyone is just pretending? ",
"And I don't understand this at all. When I came out to my deeply religious great-grandmother, I thought she would disown me. Instead she simply said \"Have you read the new testament? Jesus didn't judge, so neither will I\". \n\nI don't get religious people's aversion to it. ",
"Ass pennies ",
"The day that America's military fell.",
"Im another dead meme? Dtf bby? ",
"i hope their vows said no homo",
"The one generating gets the 'power' moniker, that's a power top situation you got there.",
"Unless she's also getting married to another female Apache pilot, no one cares.",
"Turns out I'm just as bored by gay wedding pictures as I am by straight wedding pictures.",
"wya bb?",
"*You can be my bottom bitch anytime!*\n\n*Bullshit, you can be mine!*",
"NO IT WASN'T. This is serious business.",
"Gunner or pilot?",
"Crossed swords if I’ve ever seen em.",
"Why do their uniforms look gayer than the others? ",
"That's gay.",
"And on his dick. ",
"..... ew.",
"Very good. All the rest of you are butt wipes. Sorry, I couldn't resist. ",
"no u",
"d'awh, congrats to them <3",
"Oh god that's good. This is a joke that would kill on Colbert, Conan, etc. ",
"Fortunately, he’s the kind of guy who would find that hilarious. ",
"*\"Welcome to the (insert branch) Man!\"",
"That’s soooooo gay!",
"A lot cleaner than the Seamen 1st Class Wedding at Annapolis.",
"I wish I could give you more than one upvote, but I just lol'ed in real life.",
"Do you feel the urge to kiss a dude now?",
"Two gay Apache pilots...somewhere in that a joke is waiting to happen.",
"Don’t name your kid Captain unless you want him to be a gay Apache Pilot I guess. ",
"Something something full of seamen.",
"\"Tail gunners...*leans in* if you know what I mean.\"",
"They both did,but not with those swords!",
"https://youtu.be/vQObWW06VAM",
"They can certainly fly the hell out of a Blackhawk \nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammy_Duckworth#Military_service",
"No wonder the male officers at the gym on base are always wearing short ass booty shorts. ",
"Only if his wife's name is Peggy.",
"hell yeah. this is awesome.",
"Awesome! ",
"Something something, they’ll cross swords tonite. ",
"THey cross swords 😂",
"Love is love, you Neanderthals. *sigh*",
"Ohhh shit, queers with guns. Do me in the assssss",
"This lends a little humor to the ceremonial crossing of the swords.",
"Define “no repercussions” because there absolutely would be some fallout. ",
"And now I want Apache Pizza",
"Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay",
"So much helicopter dick...",
"gross",
"I think they stopped that. No more double dipping for dual military spouses",
"Disgusting",
"https://imgur.com/a/H9xI0",
"Gay",
"I saw a gay porno once. I didn't know until halfway in. The girls never came. \n\n#The girls never came!",
"Whoa whoa whoa...who says helicopters can get married?",
"Neither got smacked; they stuck it in their butts a little bit. ",
"Gross",
"Excellent ball catcher, eh?",
"Get this propoganda out of my feed.",
"> MARIN CORE\n\nnope",
"I was in Young Republicans with Dan in high school. Looks like both of us got a little less conservative in college",
"👉😎👉 zoop ",
"Gayngry. ",
"I see we have another uninformed Reddit attorney.\n\nNEITHER UCMJ nor basic constitutional rights allow for gay-scrimination.\n\nCould he say they couldn't marry for *undisclosed* reasons? Yes. But the second that there was evidence that it was because they were gay, it's illegal.\n\nIt's no different than the whole \"gay wedding cake\" situation. You have the right to refuse service, but if either you're open about it being refusal because they're gay, or it's found that that was the reason, it's illegal.\n\nSource: I am the General in charge of West Point.",
"There's a joke to be made in this somewhere.",
"Officer bugchaser ",
"I do. Have I been brainwashed?",
"Reddit sees gay, Reddit upvotes.",
"The military will win future battles by being catty and whining the enemy to death",
"Prior service member here (90’s). Never in a million years did I think I would EVER see a picture like that. It really took me by surprise and shook up my brain. Things really have changed. I’m happy for them.",
"All these smart ass comments are likely from pudgy neckbeards who feel emasculated because they could never get into West Point or Pilot a chopper. Good for these dudes, congrats!",
"Hands visibly on the desk at all times Steve...",
"Thank you for your service! God bless the both of you for protecting us from harm. And happy marriage to both of you. ",
"I'm glad you thought so, have fun starting kindergarten next year!",
"As does sword fight",
"Wow this actually means a lot ",
"Its the current year.\n",
"All because of a little gay love? Damn, we must be pretty damn weak.",
"Yet, the gunner sits in the front seat of an apache.",
"Shit like this makes me relize that this country is still pretty awesome. ",
"ITT: Crossing swords comments and smug self stroking. ",
"\"Did you tip the waiter?\"",
"No he can't.\n\nSource: an officer in the military. Look up armed forces equal opportunity if you want to look into why. ",
"....how are they designated Apache pilots when still at West Point? Or did they just have their wedding there",
">Imagine the shit they must have put up with\n\nEasy, they didn't. These guys weren't persecuted or kicked out, or what have you. The military is more progressive socially than most institutions in this country. They have the most well-developed sexual harassment/assault reporting mechanisms, better than any corporation or other organization. By almost every metric the Army is more self-aware and able to change with the times.\n\nThese two are just happily married, and serving their country. And that's a great thing.",
"Fucking disgusting! Put your covers on fellas! ",
"I bet these Apache pilots will be dropping hot sticky loads on foreign invaders.",
"What a weird thing to say. ",
"How/why would there be fallout? Weddings are denied all the time in the military by Officers as low as Captains and even First SGT, depending on the Company/Battery.\n\nIt's not a Democracy in the military, and trying to go to the media against a General is basically career suicide for an Officer Candidate or newly pinned Warrant Officer.",
"Yes, it's called education.",
"!redditsilver\n",
"Is this Romanticism?",
"Why is reddit always pushing they gay agenda",
"Is this Romanticism?",
"Did you miss the memo? People are allowed to sexually identify themselves as attack helicopters nowadays.",
"Congratulations and many happy years together to y'all!",
"Found the Marine",
"Admittedly I served during Don't Ask Don't Tell and know nothing about new policy on this.",
"There's a lot of sword crossing goin on here",
"They will be getting a name change soon to Major",
"Yeah you can bet if they said no there'd be a massive outcry about it",
"The Facebook copyright, albeit expected, is enraging.",
"Found [Nigel Tufnel](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Qn1uHlRIY)",
"See my response to RedFireAlert.\n\nI really doubt you're Lt. Gen. Caslen.",
"If you want disappointment just wait till the Army Times picks the story up and posts it to their Facebook page. ",
"Or a football player",
"Gentlemen! Let us gingerly touch our tips!",
"Probably, it's apparently making it's way into every god dam sub now! ",
"No that was a movie about pedophilia.",
"Gross. It’s always hard for me to see two dudes kissing. But I’m proud of them, nonetheless. Hopefully they have a long happy marriage. ",
"Do you know why they don't have covers on? Outside but also armed (with swords), weddings an exception to regulations? ",
"It's too expensive. Apache helicopters are too expensive to be piloted by a woman, even if it's for the sake of shutting them up.",
"This was my first thought. ",
"It’s wonderful. Been a long road.",
"Visiting Finnish army?",
"There’s a Finnish corporal named Corporal Finnish?",
"I grew up in Belmar. When I went to move out of my parents house I couldn't afford Belmar so I looked at Asbury. It's just as expensive now. Wound up in Tinton Falls.",
"It's not widely recognized, understood, or on social media, accepted, but the US military is generally leaps and bounds ahead of society in tons of socially progressive aspects, if we're given the legal room to be such.\n\nIn the military, the end-of-day attitude is if you can and do do your job, nobody gives a fuck about whatever else you do or are. Show up for work, pull your weight, be a nice guy/gal, and that's all we want. You're a different color? You like the same genitals in a partner that you have? You feel like you were born in the wrong body? You dress up in a furry costume and get it on with strangers in a hotel room on weekends? You like Call of Duty over Battlefield?\n\nWe don't care. We might give you shit about it, but it comes from a good place. Do your job, live your life, and be you. That's all the majority of servicemembers want from their comrades in arms.",
"Fruit salad",
"Are those 2 having a sword fight?",
"It's also up to the bride and groom and the step can be omitted if they choose.\n\nsource: been to a military wedding at the United States Naval Academy Chapel ",
"?",
"That's a paddlin'.",
"Are they now 😂",
" That's not true. You don't get dual With Dependents rate. I think it's either the higher ranking spouse gets the With Dependents rate and the lower ranking spouse gets the Without Dependents rate, or both get the Without Dependents rate. Unless this is a very recent change and all of my dual military friends were grandfathered in. ",
"Should solicit congrats from Trump see what's up",
"r/pic is yours",
"Thats how they met... they crossed swords in the bathroom barracks",
">Source: I am the General in charge of West Point.\n\nYeah... gonna need proof on this one.",
"They're touching tips",
"He's a sly one, he is.",
"How is this brainwashing?",
"Seems to have worked out for these guys.",
"The Russians don’t stand a chance! But we will have the most fabulously appointed foxholes ",
"Huh? ",
"You've cracked the case! They are, in fact, homosexual. We all appreciate your contribution to the post. ",
"only if he's nice ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)",
"Being gay is so normal let's make a big deal out of it every time something gay happens.",
"Ceremonial swords, no sharp edges.",
"Probably not. If they're not on leave, they're probably both going to get a lot of hearty handshakes and sincere congratulations. Someone will probably bring balloons and cupcakes for him and everyone else in the office.",
"( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)",
"Man these guys are really good at gay chicken ",
"150 years of getting boned by the White Man and they are mostly white.",
"I guess the question is more what the climate is like in the Army depending on that the General might need a fucking good reason to deny such a marriage or next to no reason. Not that he couldn't deny it necessarily only that it might be in his interest not to even if he has the right.",
"Thanks Obama! ",
"Yeah, seriously. Who the fuck invented *bowties?* They are abominable.",
"That’s gay",
"It reads super homophobic, but I think he might’ve meant that we should’ve been working to remove marriage laws. I’ve been on reddit long enough to never guess what I think people actually mean though.",
"They'd put that on the cover of a magazine, I tell ya what. ",
"Is that a gun in your pocket? Or is it just a sword on my cock",
"Why does it matter that they're Apache pilots? I wanted this to be either two helicopters kissing or one helicopter with tin cans or \"Just Married\" on it.",
"As is tradition. \n\n“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness\"",
"I thought it would be more fabulous, even for a military wedding.",
"This warms my heart",
"What do you think the last two letters stand for? ",
"The bastards...",
"Fair bit of sword crossing there.",
"It's becoming normal, yeah. As it should. You're right though. This isn't just normal. It's exceptional!",
"Gay people disgust me ! This is soo unnatural ",
"125% true.\n\nEDIT: Crayon eaters.",
"No what?",
"Whats this, gay facebook?",
"Boom. Roasted.",
"That blue cord though",
"Member berries",
"Equality!",
"Yummy yummy?",
"Those crossed swords tho. ",
"Legitimately exploded with laughter there. ",
"Oh I didn't know ceremonial swords didn't have sharp edges. Nifty.",
"Military policy now openly accepts gay soldiers, and they allow\ngrads to use the chapel to marry. If they were to not allow \"Weddings During January\" because they were busy, that would be discretion.\nIf they were to only allow Weddings on a Saturday, that would be discretion. To bar Gay weddings but allow hetero-sexual weddings,\nwould be a huge equal protection violation.",
"I mean, if those posts broke the rules, they deserved it. Reddit isn't *free* speech. Since it started its been moderated. Want to speak your mind? Don't break the rules, so you don't get reported, so you don't get deleted.",
"Insert sword joke",
"They are touching swards... Is this where that phrase comes from?",
"My dirty mind read 'semen'. ^^^^^^help",
"Yeah man and some of us have machetes instead",
"Tossed? ",
"show us proof, sir",
"Oh boy, oh boy another shining example of an open minded youth. No wonder our society isn't falling apart at the seams with these kinds of thoughtful comments. What a great person 😊 ",
"As much as everyone complains about what a socially backwards shithole America is, it's nice to remember the incredible amounts of progress we've made in the last few decades. \n\nThis is gay dudes getting married at *West Point*. Try and imagine this happening in say, 1950. ",
"I mean, it's not the worst career, right?",
"This comment.",
"[There is no other reason for this scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNR_HofJ_Fs)",
"All helicopter pilots appreciate a good tail boom.",
"They’re all touching tips lol",
"That isn't going to be the only sword fight.",
"So, it's two officers in the United States Army, who pilot Boeing AH-64 'Apache' attack helicopters for the US military, sharing a kiss during a military wedding ceremony at the United States Military Academy, in West Point, NY.\n\nClear things up?",
"I think it's because it's a wedding.",
"fatherfuckers*",
"You let two people share a cockpit long enough, they ought fuck eventually. \n\nThis is why I'm sure NASA has some kinky space orgy from the ISS. ",
"Let us now gingerly touch our tips!!",
"What are you 12?",
"Dude I’m a straight insurance agent, I’d MUCH rather be a gay Apache Pilot! ",
"Like, not a marriage fan ever, or not for gay marriage?",
"I’m imagining them naked and I am VERY happy about their marriage. ",
"Probably not a lot.\nSince the wars began, the Army has been awful desperate for high skills personnel and most of the younger soldiers have been aware a lot of soldiers are gay. The army accepted a gay soldiers without a glitch.",
"Right, I think there's a misunderstanding that I'm saying a General could openly say \"You can't get married because you're gay.\"\n\nI don't think any General in their right mind would say that after the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell.\n\nMy point was a Commanding Officer doesn't need an insanely concrete reason to deny a marriage.\n\nI could be wrong on all of this as I served during Don't Ask Don't Tell and do not know how well protected the policy's on it are. I'm basing my statements off my own personal experience serving from '06 to '08 in the Army and what Commanding Officers could get away with back then.",
"I was hoping I didn't have to scroll far to find this.",
"YAS",
"It's so true. You never see wedding photos of straight people. Oh wait yes you do, all the time.",
"Lots of sword fighting in this picture ",
"cock pit is tastefully decorated.",
"I could be wrong, but I don't think these fellas are interested in fucking your (or anyone else's) mother. You can rest easy.",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekXxi9IKZSA",
"I would at least want the guy covering my ass to think it’s cute, makes sense. Good for them ",
"I like to think they mutter 'prepare your anus' under their breath as the rain missles down on the Taliban.\n\nPs: congrats to the happy couple :) I think this is awesome to see.",
"This is going to drive the snowflakes nuts. I expect to see Trump tweet about this too probably.",
"I believe they were pointing out that your dumbass spelt it wrong. It’s the Marine CORPS not core. ",
"That's amazing! ",
"Well it was a movie about a man [struggling with his sexuality](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSV35A1cQDM)",
"And most service members didn't care for a long time before that. I used to have two gay men as neighbors that met in the Army in the 70s. ",
":o What's its significance? ",
"[Mmm](https://youtu.be/HNR_HofJ_Fs)",
"He’s been back at work this past week. And I mean shit for showing up on Reddit, not for his relationship/marriage. Both of them are good dudes. ",
"Gross. ",
"Do people have to be SJWs to appreciate a moment representing societal progress? I mean, I agree this post is a bit masturbatory. But still.",
"I love this insight. I’m not American and know little about actual military life. Upboat ",
"I don’t want to be scrolling through reddit and see this! BLAUGH!! Nauseous now...",
"They must have one hell of an active military wedding discount. My buddy got married there last year. Cost him $55,000",
"Why on earth did you feel qualified to comment then?",
"*raises hand*",
"Now I’m trying to think about how you would have a not gay, gay wedding. Getting married in the WWE wrestling ring with ribs and coleslaw at the reception? Wedding party dressed in stained shirts with the arms cut off and trucker hats? Bikini mud wrestling and “I hate my ex” country music as entertainment?",
"Don't Ask, Don't Tell has been gone for a couple years, now. And most units had openly homosexual members for several years before that.\n\nDudes who like dudes, chicks who like chicks, and people who like other people regardless of sex, have been relatively common in the US military for a while. \n\nIt hasn't really seemed to have an effect on our day-to-day operations beyond mild hesitation when assuming the gender of the spouse of a married effeminate male soldier or masculine female soldier when you're first meeting them, in my experience.",
"I knew a guy years ago. Pvt Sanders. Was nicknamed Colonel. Got saluted and called sir by everyone on base, including actual high ranking officers. ",
"**PUT YOUR CLOTHES ON WHITE BOY**",
"What do the men’s swords rubbing each other’s symbolize? ",
"Only if you play your cards right ;)",
"How is it not?",
"Which one gets the saber butt slap?",
"Agreed. Typical passive aggressive comment. At first, passive aggressive people may seem pleasant and warm. They often appear to be complimentary. It is only after they have left that you realise that the compliment was actually disguising a cheap jibe.",
"One might say... *FABULOUS*!",
"Guy on the right is a tight end. ",
">1-Want to speak your mind?\n\n\n\n>2-Don't break the rules, so you don't get reported, so you don't get deleted.\n\nPick one",
"Next thing you know, they'll be marrying Apache helicopters.",
"In the military, your rank is your first name.",
"What does the blue cord mean ? ",
"Tossed salad",
"*no homo ",
"Fuck yeah.",
"In spite of what certain groups would want you to think, we actually live in the most peaceful and stable moment in human history. ",
"Disgusting and disgraceful. ",
"???",
"They can’t be Apache pilots as cadets. ",
"Roger, Roger. ",
"...if those two things are mutually exclusive to you, based on the usual rules on most subs, that probably means you don't know how to communicate your thoughts politely.",
"He has a point bro. No chicks.",
"Apaches are almost exclusively used for close-air support and aerial patrols. They engage when hostile parties are identified, be it because they are actively engaging friendly forces, or clearly preparing to do so.\n\nYou can make the 'murderers' argument with drone strikes and other shit, but we don't send in Apaches to gun down 'suspicious individuals' in ambiguous circumstances. They shoot people shooting at us, or shoot people who are moving into position to shoot at us.",
"They have the same name because they're married. Duh!",
"When does the real sword fight begin?",
"AHHH I'M FREAKING OUT!!\n\nThis is probably the third time I've been able to quote that movie on reddit and I end up watching it that night everytime. ",
"He was thinking 'submarine'.\n\nYou were thinking 'penis'. Easy mistake. ",
"Brainwashing? What do you mean?",
"Traditionally conservative institution inflitrated by progressive ideology. To the top we go.. fucking Reddit.",
"This guy",
"My daughter is asking me questions now. What do I tell her?",
">He get a poke in the butt\n\nIs that what he meant by \"insert branch\"?",
"A woman Senator was apache pilot. She was wounded by a rpg.",
"I'm pretty sure they fuck eachother, not their mothers. That's kind of one of the big things about getting married - you're agreeing (Generally speaking) to only fuck eachother.\n\nThey've put their mother-fucking days behind them, now.",
"You're correct, a straight marriage at a military academy would be far less notable. Great observational skills.",
"Do you want the front two guys to look like they’re sword fighting? Cause that’s how you make it look like they’re sword fighting. ",
"Interesting, not sure why the guy asking the question was downvoted.",
"Like, I understand the aversion - but why not just close the image and move on?\n\nYou literally had to go out of your way to let everyone know that you find gay people gross.",
"are those real swords? honestly curious in events like these",
"No",
"Hahahaha my hometown!! It’s really come around in the last 10 years. 8 years ago I saw a women get shot in the head on 4th and grand and now the rent is 3200 a month. Thanks Apache Pilots!",
"Wow.",
"Just the tips how fitting.",
"SUPE DADDY IS THAT YOU??? *screeches in cadet*",
"Something something crossing swords\n",
"Where are their wives? Why are they kissing? What kind of swords are those?",
"It gets you hard, eh? ",
"I know him. He’s one of my high school friend’s sons and a great guy. ",
"Better than identifying as one.",
"One does not have to be religious to be a homophobe, it can also be a cultural taboo as 'unnatural'. I was born in the Soviet Union, where atheism was the official religion of the communist party, yet homosexuality was seen quite negatively. I came to the US as a teenager, and had learned to accept the concept of equality along with the rest of this country. My father to his dying day would sneer about the attempts to bring equality for homosexuals, and never justified his views from religious perspective.",
"No, this one!",
"See my edit to my original comment.",
"Back in my time in the Army we actually called these guys Cav Scouts, not Apache Pilots.",
"Pray tell? ",
"And they are all holding them handle up, which is the strangest thing in the photo to me. Maybe so the blades don't point at the couple?",
"*sabres*",
"I love that you think that they're pretending, and that you are somehow in the majority.",
"I guess they FLEW into each other's arms. ",
"I should not have laughed at this.",
"Something something sword fighting on their honeymoon.",
"I see you've never served a single day in the Armed Forces.\n\nAs a Soldier for the past 12 years, I can tell you with confidence - as long as these guys show up and do their job, we don't give a good goddamn what they do with eachother in their off time.\n\nAnd especially close air support pilots like Apaches. Those guys and gals are revered on the same level as medevac pilots and combat medics, with how much ass-saving they do for us groundpounders.",
"Propaganda for what? People being happy?\n\n ",
"Found it for 3 dollars on Blu-ray haven't watched it since I bought it again yet.",
"Those are two dudes!",
"Sad. God have mercy.",
"Fair enough. I don't think you'd even recognize some facets of military life today it's changed so much haha.\n\nOn the other hand, the shitty stuff is still the same. ",
"https://youtu.be/BkgMbU-we1o",
"This is shameful. Look at that asshole with the infantry braid on his shoulder and that terrible haircut. Someone should say something.",
"Well if your views are liberal im sure you'll have an easy time on reddit by just being polite, the problems is if your views are different, i would love a uncensored discussion with people without fearing of being banned due to my views , and honestly reddit sometimes simply feels like a huge echo chamber where you can predict exactly what's going to be posted and commented ",
"And here I thought it was just a sweet wedding photo at USMA.\n\nTIL.",
"Cause mainstream Reddit is as far left as you can go.",
"The AH-64D Apache Longbow is an upgraded version of the original Apache",
"But that’s two men? Where’s the married couple",
"As someone not from where Asbury Park is, what the fuck are you all on about?",
"It's hard for you to see two dudes kissing?\n\nSo hard that you clicked on it, so you could see a larger image and comment on it?\n\n\nIf it's hard for you to watch gay porn, what do you do then?",
"AAAH ok, so it wasn't funny to start with and *thats* why I didn't get the joke.",
"Yeah so is talking with other people through fucking electricity, light and numbers and here we are, on the fucking internet.\n\nIf we only ever did what is 'natural' then we'd still be sitting in a fucking tree with dinner still wriggling in our mouths.",
"They seem to have incredibly long arms",
"Hmm, military travel a lot. Not sure about that quote.",
"It is part of the tradition for military weddings. Per wikipedia: The bride and groom proceed into the arch, and as the couple passes through, the last two saber bearers usually lower the sabers in front of the couple, detaining them momentarily. \n",
"Do all officers in America have sabres?",
"As a veteran who has had apaches watch over our convoys. This is awesome. Kewl me safe and I do t give a damn what you are Into.",
"In every wit there is something of a poet. ",
"Thank you",
"Tell him to get a haircut and get that shit off his collar.",
"The guy on the front right graduated West Point with one of the grooms. ",
"> I really hate the stippling of free speech on ~~reddit.~~ privately owned forums\n\n[Quick reminder](https://xkcd.com/1357/)\n\n",
"lmfao. I guess you missed the point. Good job.",
"Wait what? Is this a thing? Never heard of this before. Sounds a little...inappropriate.",
"Yeah I was waiting for the inevitable \"oh my god no one cares that you're gay.\"",
"It's a play on words. A boner is an erect penis. ",
"well obviously. that's why he shoots at the ground.",
"What, you mean the movie with a volleyball scene featuring the song \"Playing With the Boys\"?",
"I live ten minutes from Asbury Park and this is as strange to me as it is you. Was Bruce mentioned and I didn't realize?",
"If you're this strongly opposed to letting people be happy in a manner completely harmless to you, as a non-commissioned officer in the United States Army, I'd fucking loathe having you as one of my Soldiers, and would feel disrespected that you even shared that title, 'Soldier', with me and my comrades.\n\nSeek life elsewhere, and take your un-American attitudes with you.",
"Lol, guess so did everyone else with all them down votes. Would you like to explain what I apparently missed? Because if it was supposed to be a joke, it sucked way more dick than either of those guys. ",
"I think people forget how recent this was. How only a few years ago you could get kicked out of the military and same sex marriage was illegal.",
"That’s pretty cool for him. I had a commanding officer who was gay when I was still in. It was before they repealed don’t ask don’t tell, but we all knew and none of us could care less. ",
"I’m as straight as you can get (my wife will back me up based on my browser history) but this picture made me a little gay.",
"Thank you! That’s awesome. It’s like “Wait. Stay right there and enjoy the moment. Then we’ll let you pass. “",
"That's funny to me. One of my best friends is a Cav Scout and came out to everyone last year.",
"I'm so glad no one ever has to worry about this horseshit again. So many of my tax dollars and so many man hours and so much fucking effort was put into the witch hunts for gay people doing the same goddamned thing everybody else was doing EXCEPT for making babies to drive up their BAH. You want to suck dick? Does it affect your aim? Does it affect your ability to throw me into a fireman's carry and get me out of the line of fire if I get hit? No? Go suck your dick, private.",
"Because finding it gross is normal.",
"/u/dissenter_the_dragon has 414 karma in the past 7 hours.\n\n/u/4609203 has -6 karma in the past 3 hours.\n\nSeems like it was actually funny after all and people think you're an idiot. Have a good day Salty.\n\nEDIT: Correction of karma and time. An increase in time as well as in Dragon's karma, and a decrease in Number's karma.",
"Please understand there are a lot of us Republicans out there who AREN'T racist, sexist, homophobic assholes. It's the loud obnoxious ones who get the most notoriety...or the suits in Washington who are just looking out for their own interest.",
"Are you saying education conforms you to a single ideology? That hasn't been my experience and goes against what higher education is supposed to stand for. ",
"Yeah dividing America - between normal, sane people and assholes who want to hate people for stupid reasons (like yourself).",
"That's gay 😷",
"If your views make it difficult to follow rules like \"be civil\" or \"don't harass others\" while expressing them, regardless of which way they lean, they're probably shitty views.\n\nThere is definitely some echo chambers on reddit, though.",
"It was getting very political when I was in and made doing my actual job a lot harder than it should have been (91W/68W Medic.)\n\nOff the top of my head I can't think of anyone I served with who is still in, we're all old now.\n\nI don't miss that political part of it. I would say enjoy it while you're in, though. Still one of the best experiences of my life, even in very hard times.\n\nDefinitely happy personnel can be openly gay now, a few battle buddies got discharged for their sexual orientation who were otherwise very good soldiers. Most felt bad about it but kind of powerless to do anything to fix it.",
"I thought it was weird the author needed to juxtapose being macho and being gay.",
"A quick glance at their history indicates they're probably just a homophobe.",
"We've been doing pretty fine since the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and most units had one or two openly homosexual soldiers even beforehand, as a bit of an 'open secret'.\n\nThe military doesn't really give a shit what or who you do in your private life, so long as you show up on time, be a professional, and pull your own weight.\n\nBut, please, we love it when civilians tell us how we should feel about our comrades in arms of different demographics, so continue.",
"[Just before](https://youtu.be/qGXQKqXVVxU)",
"You couldn't pay me to care.",
"Is it more or less disgusting as your mum giving you a kiss at some point after your dad shoved his dick in her mouth and nutted while grabbing a fist full of her hair? ",
"These guys met during that time, and spoke about how that policy affected them. ",
"Higher educations stands for teaching you facts.",
"Yes, because after centuries of being gay being considered a crime or a mental illness, being illegal, and being grounds for being kicked out of the military, it has only recently become legal.",
"Whats the opposite of straight A’?",
"I mean, marriage is a pretty big step. I'm sure there was some uncertainty early on in their relationship, but most couples, when they actually get to marriage, are pretty confident and secure in where they're going.\n\nYeah, I know, bad marriages happen, but at the age they must be to be Captains in the Army? They're probably possessed of enough wisdom and life experience that this is probably the right choice for them.",
"Was there any reaction by cadets or other people at WP to this that was out of the usual for a wedding? ",
"You can be conservative and homosexual at the same time. ",
"Heres to you! Bill Brasky! Greatest man alive!",
"Hah, those guys are crossing swords 😂",
"Pardon me, I wasn't referring to actual violence and I was only referring to the US. Apologies.\n\n I've heard what you're saying many times and while it's hard to disagree with factually.. Just because things have always been worse does not make it good.\n\nIt's sort of like some asshole saying, \"what do you mean black people want equality? Things were way worse in the 60s\". The argument sort of, doesn't matter.\n\nJust because things are better doesn't mean they're good. Life is still fucking awful for so many people in 2018 and to downplay that by saying it's always been worse is sort of wrong?\n\nThis comment is open to debate. I'm probably wrong. ",
"Them and their Army.",
"Go Falcons!",
"lol. So the core/corps \"misspelling\" was the only problem there hmm?\n\nActually, all the downvotes are because the Marines are snowflakes and can never handle people making fun of them.",
"That lawsuit was around the company refusing the cake posting the couple's address and the ensuing death threats to them and their daughter that followed.\n\nWorth looking into because the media tried to make it a circus based around Gay Rights when it was basically emotional damages for being DoX'd. \n\n",
"There was nothing more comforting to me in the mountains of Afghanistan, as listening to a female Kiowa pilot come on the radio. She then proceeded to fuck shit up with us until her fuel was low. I still want to find and marry that woman.",
"Thank you for this! Also a time period where most cancers aren't death sentences, you live multiple years after a heart attacks, and taco bell has a bomb ass dollar menu.",
"or he's a gay/bi conservative.",
"Because most people on here are decent and think people deserve equality and respect.",
"Best wishes ",
"This is a disappointing if not disgusting thread. All the stupid double entendres and homophobic comments outnumber the positive comments about three to one. Schoolboy immaturity at best and some of them seemed hate filled. Are there really that many males out there that are uncomfortable with same sex marriages in the military? Lucky this is all anonymous. Most of you would be too ashamed to make these tee-hee comments in adult company, face to face. ",
"I know, the Army dress blues are horrendous. I really wish we'd bring back the pink and greens.",
"I clicked on it so I could show my support for them. These dudes are brave as fuck, especially being in the military and being openly gay. ",
"Just a tad ",
"True story. I have the same name as my spouse. ",
"Well, he could absolutely just not show up",
"I think What he was trying to say, is that though Liberalism and conservatism do both have merits, The modern conservative party of the United States (The GOP) often uses fallacy, anecdote, emotional argument, and ad-hominen attack to push their views. A good education really allows you to see through those types of methods of debate. Sometimes it takes professors picking apart your own arguments in papers to truly recognize them elsewhere. ",
"You are correct but tbf [there are cases of Apaches gunning down innocent people.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007_Baghdad_airstrike)",
"Now that's fucking awesome! Thank you for your service and fuck you, sir!\n\nSeriously, I am so glad to see this shit over and done with. The witch hunts were a worse problem than the LGBT people ever were. It was wasteful, stupid, and distracting.",
"But why celebrate? Doesn't this reduce their ability to procreate? ",
"For once, a single yes reply answers the question ",
"I lol’d ",
"Hahah what the hell would a gay agenda even be?\n\n*\"Okay, next on the docket is mandatory short shorts for everyone\"*\n\n*\"the next week it's world domination!\"*\n\n",
"You Cav?",
"Asbury Park has improved immensely in the past two decades and has been primarily driven by the growth of the growing local gay community who tend to fix up and improve the properties they buy and invest in local businesses. ",
"You really shouldn't cross the streams.",
"which is why there need to be more than 2 parties, so you can still stand for conservatism, while not being lumped in with all the Tea-party Assholes and alt-right white supremacists. ",
"You got me wrong, the problem is definitely not the \"be civil\" or \"don't harass others\" it's more the your opinion doesn't fit what we think so instead of refuting you with arguments , which i honesty love so i can see all the different opinions and process of tough of different people, they'll just censor you. One of the sub reddits with this annoys me the most is 2xchromossomes, i have tried multiple times to exchange my opinion to no avail , since it simply got removed multiple times (not banned since i didn't go against sub reddit rules and im always polite about it)",
"Then why enable all those people at the voting booth? Democrat is center right nowadays.",
"No, your average person isn't an asshole.\n\nAlso way to miss my whole fucking point - keep shit like this to yourself and people won't go calling you an asshole.",
"Thats cool, you dont like it, but your not a dick about it",
"/s",
"Good old Reddit, tolerant of everything but a different view",
"I've been meaning to talk to you about the latrine on the second floor in Bartlett. People keep shoving their underwear in the toilet to back it up. ",
"I was so focused on the glaring part of your statement that I missed marin, but still if that is supposed to be some kind of joke, it’s still shit.\n\nAs for Marines being “snowflakes” I have a lot of them come through my shop, and just like all the other customers from every other branch, they are some pretty tough fuckers. I’ve cracked jokes about the marines, military, politics, and yet, they never seemed to get triggered. Now go back to crying about how everyone loved the marines more than whatever branch you joined. \n",
"I saw it affect soldiers first hand, and this was back in '06.\n\nOne of the guys I went to Basic Training with was essentially disowned by his family for being gay and had nowhere else to go.\n\nHis mother died during our training and his family wouldn't allow him to attend the funeral.\n\nPeople close to him knew the real reason he was there, but I always thought it was fucked up that he had to hide that part of his life from what was essentially the only other family he had because of policy.\n\nAlso had a female who was discharged for being gay despite being able to beat out every single male that challenged her in AIT at push ups.\n\nShit was all very strange.",
"Knows how to cover a rear end",
"They're not progressive, they're just following orders. DADT was tossed and they had to be okay with it. Then people's attitudes generally changed, and they realized being gay had absolutely no effect on someone's ability to serve.\n\n\nAnd honestly, the policy is not that progressive. Almost every other military in the world, including all of our allies, already has openly gay and trans members. It's just that the religious right has normalized Christian Sharia so much that we're not used to things that nearly every other developed country has.",
"It's a military wedding ceremony, this one is specifically for commissioned officers (Lieutenants, Captains, etc, as opposed to Sergeants or Warrant Officers). This particular one is notable because it's the first homosexual wedding at the United States Military Academy at West Point (Commonly known just as 'West Point').\n\n[This page](https://www.theknot.com/content/military-wedding-ceremony-and-reception) provides a breakdown of the proceedings and the symbolism behind it all.",
"I imagine myself in Europe, leading my Platoon. Our mission is to stop whTe dogs from advancing. We mow down whTe dogs but they keep coming. I shoot whTe dogs but I run out of ammo so I draw my sword and begin slaughtering whTes, since whTes are way more psychially inferior to me, I slay them by dozens. Then I get shot, but I didn’t fall, I kept fighting. Then shot again and again. whTes were shooting me from a distance like the cowards they are. I lie down, facing up to sky and I see KARA BOĞA (Tengri) smiling at me, I smile back… Then I woke up, in africa, my homeland. My BLACK brethen gave me a warm welcome to heaven. I finally made it, I finally made it into heaven\n\n",
"Sadly for him he's outranked by Captain America",
"This is why nobody takes us seriously anymore",
"Hah, that's a good nickname to have! Any idea how he got it?",
"Wow they are such a lovely couple! ",
"Ass Pennies",
"If they wanted to they could come up with a reason for one or two, but you can bet by the third one someone would be getting his ass relieved.",
"Love knows no bounds, my friend. ",
"Do you see those crossed swords? #puns #worksontwolevels",
"My only question is...Why is a wedding ceremony performed in mess dress? I thought that was just for formal balls and such?\n\nOr is a wedding considered such an event, because of the reception? That's my guess, in hindsight. 12 year still-serving vet, but the intricacies of ceremonies and shit I try to stay far away from, so I'm a little ignorant of the protocol of them.",
"He says less conservative, not no longer conservative.",
"Ew, their swords crossed!",
"Because of the gays?",
"Favourite thing to hear is Dive! Dive! Dive!",
"Haha thank you for the explanation, It's a good one! But I was talking about the deleted comment above mine",
"One and Two are \"Discretionary\", but Three gets a complaint to the Hotline and command... \n\n\n",
"At boot camp. ",
"And some have pocket knives.",
"Them Crossing those swords is more than symbolic.",
"It’s not just cake bakers. It is any organization or business whatsoever that could deny people because they don’t like that they’re gay. Gay people don’t deserve to be second class citizens because they’re gay.",
"I wish there was a rational conservative party made up of people such as yourself to play the counterpart to the dems but there simply isn't right now. The loud obnoxious ones now make up the majority of your party. The party has been infected from the top to the bottom with racism, sexism and homophobia. ",
"Used to think this was true until you went and elected Trump. There were way too many of you that voted for him for this to be true. Until further notice... ",
"People should also understand there are plenty of bigoted, homophobic Democrats out there as well.",
"Had Obama run 20 years ago, he would have been called a moderate republican.",
"There are, but to argue that Apache pilots are murderers in the manner that /u/AbuRazorRamon was, just reeks of the ignorant fool standing in front of a Patriot missile system at a military display, holding a sign saying 'THIS MACHINE KILLS INNOCENT PEOPLE'.\n\nPoor judgement, misconduct, and orders based on bad intel do happen, but they are far from the norm, especially with a weapons platform like the Apache. If we were discussing Predator pilots, that's a much more heated debate, but Apaches are almost exclusively engaging the enemy in a reactionary manner, or when they are *clearly* hostile forces who have yet to attack.",
"I hope they don't identify as Apache Attack Helicopters, that would be awkward :/",
">I also think most homophobes are secretly gay\n\nI don't think that's true. Certainly, it happens enough to be a thing, but sex is a pretty scary subject, and it's just one of those things that if you don't happen to like something, odds are it's creepy to you. And a lot of men have a thing about power, and being fucked in the ass is certainly not a power position. So it's scary.\n\nIt would probably be pretty easy to be scared of gay sex if you let it be scary. You'll note that women eating pussy is considered hot by an awful lot of straight men who wouldn't touch a dick if it was made of solid gold.\n\nThat makes me think it's about the threat of being weak more than it is about being caught wanting a dick in your mouth.\n\nAnd nothing is harder to overcome than a food revulsion or sex revulsion. Neither are particularly rational, or explainable. Why is cold pizza gross to some people and amazeballs to others?",
"Ah, my bad. Yeah, regardless of context I'd give my coworkers shit if they ended up on the front page of Reddit.\n\nGive him some shit for me from the MP Corps.",
"...Something about crossing swords\n...and gingerly touching tips",
"Haa gay!",
"AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. ok.",
"Yeah I reread my comment and cringed at myself a little. I remember the first day he told me he was gay. “Dude, I’m from CA, my sister in law, my kid’s godfather, and the guy who married my wife and I is too. Don’t give a fuck”. ",
"looks like the guy on the left is just realizing the joke",
"You can bet most of us are vets. I certainly am. Now, DO PUSHUPS.",
"Why is that a bad thing? Fuck having kids.",
" A NJ town that has turned from shithole to a very nice neighborhood. Or as we like to call it, gayborhood.",
"The Apache is a lethal helicopter for sure, but it also had a reputation for being mechanically fussy. In humid conditions, electronic components suffered. In the the desert, sand ingestion can cause problems, and in cold weather the elastomeric bearing in the tail rotor fork failed on numerous Apaches. The unscheduled maintenance burden is often high as a result. Anyway, more to the point. As the two Captains are currently on active duty, I bid them both Godspeed in their military careers. ",
"I'm stealing this to make it a meme. Wait. Is it already?",
"Lol, that’s all you got? I thought you were a funny man, but you ain’t got any jokes? Bye bud, hope you and your fleshlight have a nice night. ",
"> taco bell has a bomb ass\n\nYeah, that's what happens when you eat taco Bell.",
"Yeah okay ",
"It's kind of a shocking realization to come to, even as a servicemember. Most of us join right out of high school, so military culture, which takes a while to learn and adopt and adapt to, with the above attitude is all most servicemembers have ever known as an adult.\n\nIt's a really big culture shock when we keep getting fed by the media (Movies, games, television shows, etc) that the military is this uber-conservative and discriminatory and socially inflexible beast, but you've accepted all of how military culture really is as your 'norm'.....and then you realize that civilian society is dramatically more discriminatory, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, and every other word you can use...than your roommate who grew up in bumfuck Louisiana and is basically 'Politically Correct Redneck' personified.\n\nIt's also more than a little depressing.",
"Absolutely beautiful!!!",
"No, you aren't wrong.... Complacency kills progress and innovation.",
"All of those guys seem to be touching each others swords together. Good for them",
"Try and imagine this happening in 2006, even.",
"And if, by chance, either of them, or you, know a CW3 Gayne, give him some shit, too, from Seabass.",
"Yeah. Ok.\n\nDo I need to explain the evolution of that phrase and its current general usage?\n\nOr do you think you can figure it out?",
"Both get the without dependants rate if they don't have children, which makes sense considering that means they get paid the same total compensation as they did when they were single. If they have children then the higher ranking member receives the with dependents rate. They are partway through reducing BAH for everyone by 5% across the board (1% cut per year). Also there have been a number of proposals in recent years to cut BAH depending on roommate situations or dual military spouses but none have passed into law.",
"Go find the article on Twitter. You'll get your shitshow. ",
"Ah, Reddit did a weird thing when it loaded more comments, might have been RES. Yours looked like a first-line comment in a thread, not a reply.\n\nMy bad!",
"I like you. Please keep doing what you do, my friend.",
"no you're gay! ",
"Yep! My experience is they use those \"discretionary\" butt fucks to fuck over people they dislike for some reason. You have to earn that kind of shit. And in those cases, command lets them get away with it because it's not bigotry, it's just meanness. But when a pattern develops, they tend to get yanked. Because people *do* complain, and eventually a record that has to be dealt with builds up.",
"Back in my day, we called them sysadmins.",
"If they had Kenny Loggins playing at the wedding, it would have been perfect.",
"Wow, what an original thought!",
"\"Huh, weird that a post on marriage is on the front page of reddit\"\n\n>checks pic\n\n\"Of course\"",
"I was kind of expecting it, but the way the post was titled certainly precludes most of that argument. It was simply \"Apache Pilots\" as opposed to \"Gay Apache Pilots\". ",
"I would just like to add, this lovely couple is in the Army. ",
"I served too, learned to kill. being a soldier makes you automatically a murder. killing people is the purpose of your job and it doesn’t matter if you are a cook or a nurse. ",
"They're both great guys and great officers. Very happy for them",
"I don’t get it :( ",
"I must be one of the only old former 91Ws still kicking around in uniform. Not a single person I knew before the 68W transition is still serving.",
"It’s a copypasta lol I didn’t make it",
">Private Sanders\n\n>nicknamed Colonel.\n\n[One more hint](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RGX2lgFSrdM/S8P-_PVos2I/AAAAAAAADQI/5SLeaDPae28/s1600/colonel-sanders-funny.jpg)",
"So many erect swords in that pic.\n",
"White gloves, gaudy gold uniform embellishments, woven shoulder lanyards, swords, tuxedo style jackets on the grooms, dress shoes. I'm probably missing some things, I would not have picked out the mini-medals. \n\nNot to mention a wedding is a distinctly formal event so naturally they would be wearing their formal dress uniforms.",
"Killing someone doesn't make you a murderer. It makes you a killer, yes, but not necessarily a murderer.\n\nYou learned to kill, have you ever actually done it? I have. The guy threw a grenade at my friends and tried to kill them, just because we were driving through their town - after their entire police department colluded to be absent when we were delivering supplies and planning training for them, so we turned around and went back to base. All we did was try to help them restore order and sustainability in their town, and he threw an RKG-3 at one of our trucks. I shot him and killed him. He was running and he crumpled to the ground and screamed for about two minutes until he bled out, because I'd shattered his pelvis and I'm guessing lacerated his femoral artery, while non-tratiorous police officers tried to render first-aid to him.\n\nI don't regret it for a second, but it still haunts me to this day that I killed a man who was probably not even old enough to buy a beer in the US.\n\nBut do I consider myself a murderer, and am I by any legal definition? Fuck no.",
"SHIT! all the good stuff is already taken.",
"We're slowly making you gay. You make not believe this to be true, but the subliminal programming is so insidious that you have no idea it's occurring until one morning you wake up with a cock in your ass and you can't help but enjoy it.",
"Shouldn't bother anyone. If the can fly and press the fire button, that's all that matters.",
"Wondrr which one plays the woman?",
"LoL. You're so clever. ",
"Ah, thank you. At least there one person here who isn't as fragile as a MARIN.",
"That's the sort of good natured joke any friends should play on each other.\n\nIf you can't subtly call your friend a girl as he's marrying another guy, when can you?",
"I know it's a meme, but it is crazy how many vocal Antigay \"leaders\" get caught banging dudes. To me we live in a free country, where it would be super weird to worry about how another adult lives Their lives, or try to legislate anything. When people start doing that. Watch em, they gonna have a dick in their mouths ",
"Not State, either. That was one fucking moron in one County who decided that her lack of understanding of her own \"religion\" gave her the moral superiority to deny a couple their right to marry.",
"Vector, Victor",
"NP. I appreciate reason and properly structured arguments.",
"Sorry,but this is kind of gross.",
"Soldier medic, warrior spirit.\n\nThanks for your service.\n\nLots of reasons I can think of to get out, especially with the climate of the Army during OIF/OEF and the nature of the job.\n\nStill one of the best jobs I've ever had. Hope you're still enjoying your time in service.\n\nA couple of guys I served with are still in but I hardly ever hear from them, they wound up going 18 series and I'm not even sure if they're still Medics at this point.",
"No, your “if your a homophobe, your secretly gay” comment. Was just letting you know how creative of a thought that is! But I guess, durr?",
"I've lived here all my life and i visit there on the weekends all the time, but this is the first I'm hearing of Asbury as a gay community honestly",
"Yeah, there are multiple subs like that. T_D is probably the worst offender.",
"The sybolic nature of the swords crossing is awesome . ",
"Why am I being downvotes that’s a legitimate question. You don’t attend West Point to specifically become an Apache Pilot, that’s what specialty schools are for once in the military. West Point is just the Academy to become an officer in the US Army.",
"Enjoying? Nope. Still going to do it? Yep. The one thing I love is the fact that I have a Brigade section I run, and I get to be the leader and mentor I never had. I also am a 68W NREMT and Table VIII instructor and love that I help keep us Medics up to snuff. Other than that, FTA.",
"Disgraceful fairies.",
"The suits in Washington that you vote for...",
"You know who I watch? Religious men. I have seen so many religious men predating on kids. Boys, girls, boys who want to be girls...whatever. And not Catholic priests. This was Protestant preachers and deacons and shit. Church people fuck each other's wives and daughters like it's an Olympic Sport. When I was a kid our youth group leader was fucking at least two of the youth group kids that I knew for sure, and one was a boy and one was a girl. And when they found out about each other, you'd have thought the roof of the church was gonna fall in. And that happens *a lot*. It seems like a lot of youth group ministers and the like are drawn to that job to get laid, not to teach about how Jesus loves you.\n\nIt drove me out of the church and started my fall from grace. I blame you, Larry Z, for turning me into a godless atheist. ",
"Hey do you know if other nutritional shakes would be just as good for kids as that pedialight shakes for kids? ",
"They *are* cav...technically...",
"I would say the Democrats do the same thing.",
"I don’t bud. But good luck.",
"Holy shit I laughed at this! ",
">Thank God.\n\nYou're thinking that the commenter is happy that the world has moved on and is no longer homophobic.\n\n>For a moment I thought they let women pilot those things. \n\n\nYou realize that the commenter is actually just really sexist. ",
"Look around next weekend, You'll see human rights campaign equality flags flying everywhere (yellow equal sign on a field of blue). That's a much more popular flag for the local community than the historic rainbow flag. Many of the new business in the past two decades are owned by the local LGBT community. ",
"Do you remember the time we went horseback riding, only there weren’t any horses? You strapped a saddle on my back and rode me around Wyoming for 3 days... and I developed tremendous thigh muscles. When we got home, you entered me in The Breeder’s Cup under the name ‘Turkish Delight’. And I’m running in 2nd place, and I’m running and I BREAK MY ANKLE! They were about to put me down and then finally someone in the crowd, God bless him, shouts “Don’t shoot him, he’s a human!”",
"Gay",
"lol well God speed on the retirement, then.\n\nI have no idea what the Army is like when the country isn't in a time of war, but my imagination lets me think that it's a lot more politics and a lot less actual shit you'd join the Army for in the first place.\n\nAt least you're in a decent position. I personally took a lot of pride in being a Medic.",
"Bill Brasky is a 10 foot tall beastman that showers in vodka, and feeds his baby shrimp scampi.",
"Gross",
"Ymmmmm",
"I thought marriage pics were just for Facebook redditors? Someone else made the front page earlier today with a marriage photo and got blasted. ",
"/u/MurderousChimp has 3,913 karma and has been on reddit for 2 years\n\nand \n\n/u/4609203 has 275,550 karma and has been on reddit for 1 year.",
"Triggered.",
"Apparently it's not a popular opinion. I'm leaving it though..",
"Triggered",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/7rut3m/contactless_fight_oc/dt00uyg/\n\n21 hours ago I left this comment which gained me 757 karma",
"Nothing says 'Merica like gay Apache pilots mowing down radical Islam ",
"Triggered ",
"although dems are known for using emotional argument, you would be pressed to find people that use ad-hominen attack, fallacy, and just straight up lying than Donald Trump. Also I think Educational institutions will always favor the political Ideology that aligns most with educating people. As of right now, republicans are the ones that want to defund public education, so you will find little support for that idea inside of educational institutions. ",
"Too much irony with the crossing of swords ",
"when two people love each other sometimes they get married",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/7s0yh6/in_light_of_the_dumbocraps_causing_a_government/?utm_content=comments&utm_medium=user&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=frontpage\n\nSeven hours ago you posted this on r/the_laughingstock \n",
"We have clearance, Clarence.",
"Something something helicopter dicks.",
"I know that, but what's the other meaning of it? Why is it spelled \"bowner\" instead of \"boner\"? ",
"And I'm sorry I was being mean thanks ",
"What are brain washing centers fatal to?",
"Did they fly one into the sunset with tin cans strapped to the hardpoints? :p",
"The problem about whataboutism is that there is only one group of bigoted, homophobic, other -ics/isms that are a danger to the people they hate. I don't give a fuck that you secretly hate me, I do give one when you have the power to act on that hate and -do-.",
"Swordfight!",
"Doesn’t the last in line usually slap the brides butt with his sword?\n\nWhose butt do they slap at a gay wedding? ",
"I know it's gay friendly, but most cities in NJ are very gay friendly. They also have a gay pride parade in Asbury. I'm all for it, I've just never heard this before as the cause of Asbury's resurgence. Gentrification however..",
"I agree mostly with that but most Republicans just want liberty and freedom over authority. ",
"Cock block dude",
"Hey Alex!",
"Dude on the right looks Blaine from Glee. Who is also gay. ",
"Yeah that's why I said what the fuck",
"I don't wanna read about Kenny Loggins. I wanna read about K-LOG!",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/7pd7w0/agreed/\n\nAt some point that I don't really care about you posted this on /r/am_I_cartooning_right.\n\nPoint?\n\nEdit: It's pretty sad when you are losing an argument and feel your only release is to troll the profile of the person that drug you through the mud.",
"That's pretty gay.... What is this world coming to :(",
"What a joke. Basically the implication here is that the liberal echo chambers we call universities are politically enlightening students. University students (speaking for America) could not be more ignorant, especially given they are living in an academic environment 24/7. And they rally for idiotic liberal causes, which only hurt the segment of the population they purport to help. ",
"ahh yes... the crossing of the swords. ",
"I don’t disagree with anything you just said; your earlier post was just unfortunately-phrased.\n\nHowever, u/chilaxinman is right - sucking a dick really has nothing to do with being a homophobe.",
"Not really. Most of the officers who attended (I think the article said there were 20+) were graduates of West Point. This also occurred on a Saturday on MLK weekend so post was pretty empty. Didn't see any cadets actually. ",
"I don't see what sucking a dick on a bet has to do with anything. Some of the most outspoken anti-LGBT men have had sex with other men; they're still terrible.\n\nRecognizing same-sex marriage didn't add any \"rights\" to marriage so I don't know what you're talking about with that. It simply extended the benefits which already exist in the institution to the LGBT community. I would probably agree that the government shouldn't be deciding tax benefits and whatnot based on marital status I don't foresee a universe that eliminates those benefits. \n\nAlso, I didn't realize there were still people that were still worried about this.",
"Those outfits though. Military dress blues always look like Disney character outfits to me",
"[Apache Longbow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_AH-64_Apache?wprov=sfla1#AH-64D)",
"I won’t tell if you don’t ask.",
"Yeah, lots of politics and jockeying for favor. E6 now, and in 5 years will probably retire as one. I am completely fine with that, as long as my CoC continues to leave me alone and develop our future leaders like I have been for the past 6 years. Being a Medic and mentor brings me a sense of pride nothing else, not even being a Soldier, ever will.",
"Danger Zone!",
"[What do you have to say about Trump being a cuck?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suDNHwtqoiU)",
"I get what you are saying but I think what the Modern Republican party wants is not just liberty and freedom over authority. The problem is that in most primaries, only the direhard crazy people show up, on both sides of the political spectrum, which leads to people having to pick the least bad person rather than the best candidate. I think in 2016 only 13% of republicans showed up to the primaries. If the Republican party shifted more towards the compassionate conservationism of the mid 20th century republican party it would align more closely with your views. I don't think conservatism is wrong, I just think the modern republican tactic is to use those views to get people to vote republican, and then still use big government to accomplish what the party wants. until the republican party has a reckoning of sorts, to cut out all this crazy Trump/ Teaparty bullshit, the type of conservatism you want wont flourish within the party. ",
"What's your point? That wasn't in this sub. The discussion here is that between yourself and Dragon, his post was funny and your reply was whiny and the people of this sub, right here and right now, agree.\n\nBut you, whiny as you are, decided the answer was to troll my profile and compare my posts to yours even though I only pointed out that you're an idiot.",
"happy for them, but all I can think is that apache pilots use independent eye movement with the monocle, so I assume they each of one eye open and looking around. I find that funny for some reason. ",
"I'm still confused as to what you meant, then.",
"What a shame.",
"You're the one who brought up karma and who was posting where. So I just decided to point out that you support the biggest loser in all of american history.",
"Sure, but the difference is that while bigotry and homophobia *exist* in the Democratic Party, they’re core parts of the Republican platform. ",
"Despite the best efforts of conservatives, society does get better over time. ",
"I can troll your profile too. From what I see, you're a rather bland, droll redditor. Point is, you're deflecting from the fact that subscribers on THIS SUB found Dragon's comment to be funny and your reply to be stupid. That's the state of the matter here. So please, quit trying to pretend you're better than I am when I simply pointed out that you're being a baby in this sub.\n\nA counter argument to the fact that your karma is higher is that you have a far less interesting life and you spend much more time on reddit cultivating that high karma. 275.5k Karma in one year? Honestly, I'm not sure I'd be proud of that. Do you EVER go out and live your life?\n\nAnd if you do, you clearly don't post dissenting opinions. Do you think for yourself or do you always nod your head in agreement with others?\n\nAnd in another one of your flood of replies to me you whined about how you posted something earlier and got 700-ish karma for it. That doesn't really mean anything. On a day to day basis I commonly see people reposting things from one sub to another and ending up on the front page even though they weren't the first to post it. All your karma tells me is that you know where to post things so that the right sheep vote on it.",
"Extremes of any side will be really bad for people ",
"LMFAO. The biggest loser in all of American history. Ok.\n\nWell, since you're too childish to follow along, the karma that I pointed out what that the people IN THIS SUB think Dragon's comment is funny and that you are wrong about it not being so. That's what the karma says. But please, keep deflecting.",
"Actually, what I have to say about you deflecting from the fact that you're wrong in your original arguments is pretty sad.",
"An octopus? How many Reddit accounts are you Using right now? ",
"yes",
"Now they can cross swords for real",
"I can't believe they show this, the bayonette is crossed the wrong way! Sarge isn't gonna be too happy about this",
"Thanks Obama\n",
"Did you ever try the flavored sauce place on Hate n ash, serving ass-berry pork? It's not great 2/5",
"Thank you,! ",
"Good on you, dude. Reddit's stiffy for the US military is fucking creepy. ",
"Are you Kinky Friedman? You sound a lot like him.",
"> I clicked on it so I could pretend to show my support for them while my real intent is to openly comment on how gross it is.\n\n\nFixed your bullshit for you\n",
"Yeah? You don't think it might have something to do with the fact that your president is a racist, senile, obese, geriatric with a fucking spray tan? ",
"Yep, I shared my opinion. Shame on me. Quit being so hateful ",
"No wonder we can't win in Afghanistan...",
"Nah, he was a fgt long before today",
"Awesome. Thank you, have never laughed that hard on reddit.",
"https://tenor.com/view/welcome-gif-4481038",
"Now she’s hungry. What do I do?",
"I mean I can only speak for one university, the one that I attended but I can tell you that even in that academic environment, the average student is exposed to a lot of different ideas and cultures not just from all over the region, but from all over the world. It wasn't until I got this chance to mingle with others that I realized how horribly skewed some of my own views were.",
"Just think, in no time at all they could be bombing civilians *as a couple*! Awww",
"Eh, all of this seems so unnecessary, especially since the comment I replied to was deleted.\n\n~~Oh sorry, I didn't realize you were that worried about what I thought about you! Seems weird that you need validation from somebody you so clearly disdain, but whatever. [This comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rukqg/a_small_but_important_distinction/dszyfd8/?context=10000) is mostly what I was referring to; of course, it's not anything specifically indicating you're a homophobe (which I never actually claimed), but I've found that people who use \"butthurt\" generally aren't worth effort of the benefit of the doubt.~~\n\n~~Your original comment seemed homophobic, so I checked out your userpage to see if there was an indication that I just grossly misinterpreted that comment. Based on what I saw there (and your subsequent reaction to my comment), I did not misjudge you. Again, I didn't find anything particularly anti-LGBT, but my own set of heuristics lead me to believe you're not exactly a champion of the gay community. My apologies if you are actually a renown gay rights activist who is now being unjustly slandered by a meanie on the internet.~~",
"nope. The huge backlash encountered when they specified they'd look into it made them stop looking, even though it impacts a fraction of the force. \n\n",
"Triggered",
"Or a pirate?",
"How old are You?",
"A lot of people don’t get the military memes.",
"Flying them is fine. it's the parking that's dangerous.",
"I wish I could believe this. ",
"I have this fun vision of Mike Pence spending a paranoid day driving around DC and constantly noticing heavily-armed gunships hanging menacingly in the sky, sort of like in Goodfellas. ",
"My mistake then",
"My dad told me a story of when he was a kid and lived near an airbase in Pakistan (where granddad worked). At that time, Pakistan was getting a lot of aid and a lot of it was dropped off at that base so you'd see a lot of American airforce planes landing. So my dad asks granddad, who is this Yousaf guy and why does he need so many airplanes? All the US C130s had USAF emblazoned on them!",
"> It's the loud obnoxious ones who get the most notoriety..\n\n\nYou can say that about every group of people..",
"Congresswoman Duckworth is a hell of a person, but to not derail the karma train, I'd point out that she flew her blackhawk *into* a non-guided RPG...\n\n",
"I mean, yes, we can be and should be proud. But a lot of other countries are amazing this progress a lot faster, and we should remember that as recently as six years ago, even admitting you were gay was enough to get you booted from the service. And this wedding in the picture would have been symbolic at best.\n\nIt should serve as much as a point of pride as a kick in the ass to work harder to support every community that's still struggling with legalized discrimination and intolerance (and societal prejudice, as well).",
"And you know what is worse about those sick fucks, is they think they can just say a little prayer and all is forgiven ",
"As if the dems are some kind of group of angels or something. Lets be honest here, both sides from the bottom to the top suck some major balls.",
"Yeah because less conservative automatically means less bigoted",
"I'm curious if the UCMJ was updated to reflect the higher level rule changes?",
"All those swords, and not a single sheath.",
"Right. I’m straight but I celebrate every gay marriage because I hate children. ",
"Who sallow the sword first? ",
"lol, ya got me ;)",
"I’m around Chris Pratt’s age and twice as sexy. ",
"Dat last line tho",
"I dont know how old he is..",
"Fr tho. I’m a hardcore leftist but I can understand fiscal conservatism. It’s when people start hating gay people or me for my skin color that I have serious problems. ",
"Well, god forgives them. The rest of us maybe not so much.",
"The rational conservatives are called Libertarians. We don't care what you do as long as others are not hurt in the process. \n\n",
"They will be crossing their swords later ifyaknowwhatimean",
"That's the key thing here. Their made up god forgives them, because that's their narrative. If there is really a god, surely he is nothing like they portray ",
"What the hell can sarge do about it? These are all officers. ",
"Pitiful. ",
"Go Cav!",
"About what is expected from Army. ",
"I wanted to make a joke about crossing swords but alas many have beat me to it. Happy for them! ",
"My uncle was Class of 1955 and got married at West Point.\n\nI was just wondering how they might know each other, being in different arms of the Army.\n\nThe CALFEX at Ft. Knox was always fun to watch. The \"Million Dollar Minute\".",
"Lol dudes been a redditor 6 years and hasn't cracked 2k comment karma. I wonder if he will put two and two together and realize no one agrees with his way of thinking?",
"Not fake but definitely gay.",
"He still doesn't like sloppy maneuver, i don't know yours",
"Meanwhile the rest of us are just like...\"accurate title bro\". Youre silly.",
"They both graduated from West Point several years ago, and went back to have their wedding.",
"Oh no... It's retarded.\n\nOkay here,. Ely5: Two men, who were real helicopter pilots got married just like your mommy and daddy did when they were young. All thier family and friends and loved ones came because it was a big party and they were happy for them. The party was held at a school that meant a lot to them that's also very pretty. Everyone involved was happy. They kissed. With thier lips. \n\n",
"No them they would say removed. The ones that say deleted are from pussies who can't stand behind their hate speech.",
"SLEEP...TIL BROOKLYN!",
"Troll account nothing to see here",
"It's a whole huge internet find a place that does not challenge you and agrees with everything you say and think if you can't handle change",
"One year old account with negative comment karma. Lol. Either you're a troll or you should take a long look at yourself.",
"Well since he has rolled over and in in the correct position. ",
"No comment",
"I think they are referring to their cover, or uniform \"hat\". ",
"This guy doesn't speak for all Kyle's.",
"Reminds me of Flight of the Conchords. \n\n\"She's so hot. I want to tell her how hot she is, but she'll think I'm being sexist. She's so hot she's making me sexist. Bitch.\"",
"this doesn't make society better for the person that would have opposed it, but it's also none of their fucking business and doesn't have to.",
"Was a personal specialist and did the paperwork. It drove me crazy having to do it. So glad that’s a by-gone era.",
"38ish",
"The dems are a party with problems and division. Which is to say, the dems are a normal party. I would not call the republican party normal.",
"Why do you ask?",
"With the whole non binary culture thats happening today. As well as people identifying as apache helicopters themselves. I’m sure a mix of that and non binary (gay/straight) people exist out there already. ",
"> I see we have another uninformed Reddit attorney.\n\n> Could he say they couldn't marry for undisclosed reasons? Yes.\n\nSo I'm going to assume that you're not an attorney either, since bar exams require the ability to read. Like reading the post you're replying to,\n\n> could most certainly deny a marriage **with no reason given**",
"Something something swordfight ",
"Or just take your party back!",
"Notre Dame High school alum! I was class of ‘08 with Dan’s sister!",
"I would've said you could fly apaches. You might be a couple years past the cutoff though..",
"Upvoted because of gay",
"How DARE you say I’m too old to fly Apache’s?!?! I’ll have you know, I’m simply too fat!",
"Yes, headdress is a fancy word for hat.",
"But it isn't natural to reproduce with a man and another man the world just can't reproduce... if we didn't have surrogacy and donors everyone would think this idea of homosexuality is bizarre. As a society we try and portray these \nhomosexuals as acceptable but at the end of the day they get odd and disgusted looks because they will never be accepted. What about the kids that have two dads , what would be the negative effects on that child.? ",
"Thank you that’s what I was wondering. Good for them! I had a gay man in my platoon, dude got shit but was fierce as fuck in combat. I’d gladly let him have my six in combat any day.",
"God bless the gays. ",
"do they have their swords down to block them until they kiss? \n\nalso, is the hard part back in? who knew",
"Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!",
"And you might even be able to fly helicopters!",
"Yes, but I don't think OP is using this word synonymously with \"fancy hat\". \n\nIn this case I think OP, as they identified their self as European,and I'm assuming military, is using the term to specify \"military headdress\" in the same manor that US military would ask why they weren't wearing their headgear/covers while outside. \n",
"No they're not. That's a stupid thing to say.",
"That's so gay",
"ITT, more military redditors than I thought.",
"To be fair, all weddings are pretty gay.",
"What are you sighing about? Everyone in the comments is just making light of the fact that they are Apache pilots.",
"It is back in. It made a comeback with the comeback of traditional barber shops. ",
"Isn't that obvious?",
"> Yes, but I don't think OP is using this word synonymously with \"fancy hat\". \n\n*Fancy word for hat*, not fancy hat, lol. They are definitely using the term \"headdress\" to mean a \"military headdress.\" I am Canadian, we use the term headdress as well in the military.\n\nI'm not sure what you're confused about but I'll spend some time typing to lay it all out\n\nPost 1: Asks why they are not wearing their military headdress.\n\nPost 2: States they are wearing bowties, so therefore suspects it must be due to formal dress.\n\nMy post: Confirming this is certainly formal dress by listing all the evidence of such which can be viewed in the photo.",
"Haha good talk. ",
"Just start calling it tummy sticks, HR is scared of swords",
"Gay.",
"Right, so marriage should only be for people who are able to have children? So we can just go ahead and make it illegal for every woman who's gone through menopause to marry/be married to? \n\nWhat isn't natural is going out of your way to make people live by your own beliefs - their marriage effects you in absolutely no way, yet you'd have your beliefs dictate how they live their lives.",
"Like the Cuban boys get named Usnavy and Usmail. ",
"Then again, military hats are typically quite fancy.",
"Really? Is that why you dial 999 instead of 911 for emergencies? Because if you were Lt. General Robert L. Caslen, I would hope you would be more aware of the actual emergency number for your country. Which country are you from anyway? UK? Poland?",
"21 21 21",
"I'm enlisted and most ppl are pretty \"Don't give a shit\" when it comes to social beliefs. I think most of us realize that there are more important things to worry about...",
"My current company commander is a female Cobra pilot with over 80 confirmed kills. ",
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"You weren't talking to me, but I laugh at the idea of someone willingly looking up US military EO info. That shit is so boring.\n\nSource: Also an officer",
"Maybe you aren't those things personally, but holy shit does your party love voting in racist, sexist, homophobic assholes. The loud ones ARE the Republican party...that's how politics work, the louder and more popular ones get the votes. Can't really say that you're not on the team when you willingly wear the jersey. ",
"Who are you talking to?",
"The loud and obnoxious ones are the party, and they give two shits about \"rational republicans\".",
"I saw several “ewww”, “gross”, “abominations” and other outright homophobic commentary. My comment was not in response to actual humor.",
"In my day we called it gay and it still is ",
"It's also a controversial thing today. I was in honor guard and we weren't allowed to do this at all because it wasn't \"PC\".",
"That's wrong and you're naive to think that ",
"Haha gay",
"I mean wanting to overturn gay marriage is literally a part of their published platform. It’s not like this is a matter of opinion. ",
"Wanting to overturn gay marriage is right there in the republican’s official platform. It’s not like this is a matter of opinion. ",
"Wow thats gay",
"PDA in uniform?\n",
"Yeah, fuck two people being happy! ^/s ^in ^case ^people ^didn't ^realize",
"It's literally as gross as a man and a woman kissing on their wedding day. No more, no less. Two people expressing their love for one another. ",
"Yeah, you probably should be asking for mercy. After all, god definitely hates judgmental bigots the most out of like... everything. ",
"Listen here, fuck knuckles; I served in the Marines, fought in two wars, and if you think there was anything gay that happened in my Marine Corps I will bend you over and hate fuck your asshole while gently cradling your balls!",
"First off and more importantly my name is Luffy. Secondly, sometimes I don’t know when /s is necessary. Apparently it was this time. ",
"Yea, man, I enlisted in 05, and I honestly never thought this would happen.",
"You do realize that literally over one hundred animal species around the world exhibit homosexual behavior as a norm, right? In fact, a large number of those are primates/apes/relatively close human relatives. However birds, giraffes, some lizards, and a whole myriad of other animals all have homosexual members.",
"Yep, pretty freakin gross. Lol. And that’s as good as it gets too ¯\\\\\\_(ツ)_/¯",
"Oh sorry I'm not trying to argue that Republicans arnt. I'm saying both parties are fucked up. Sorry for the confusion. I don't want to defend any politician. ",
"WORNGRY BORNGRY SOMEONE’S HORNGRY",
"Heheh... beat",
"I zoomed in because they didn't look Native American. I'm dumb...",
"They never are ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯",
"Because us nasty gays have to make it to the top somehow. Why not do it by worming our way into your straightie brains to turn you gay too? /heavyfuckinsarcasm",
"Two gays marry. Big whoop.",
"You sound like a woman. ",
"“haha let’s cross swords.”- most likely said at some point",
"( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)",
"Seems like the guy on the left is enjoying it just as much by his face. ",
"\\o/ Okay calm down nobody needs to get hurt",
"Neither bc they’re both men my guy",
"Yawning guy on the left?",
"$20 says his mommy and daddy weren't ever married and he was conceived in the back of a 7/11 after his parents shared a Colt 45 while snorting Fun Dip. ",
"It bothers me that they're not kissing symmetrically, and that the camera isn't centered.",
"Yeah you either have a dick, like dick, or are lesbian and all three of those things are pretty gay.",
"Which one got the swat on the butt?",
"wow",
"Crossing swords?",
"“So, do you know why they call me Goose?”",
"I would say the democrats use those methods just as often..",
"Trump’s not going to like this...",
"Where do I get myself that uniform??\nHmm",
"This is gay",
"Fucking great I️ just started crying ",
"Concerning body language",
"Sort by controversial or people probably don't want to be downvoted",
"We all were in the finnish army. Kinda still are since we are now army reserve.",
"well, i want a display of swords at my wedding now. ",
"> Usmail\n\nReminds a bit of Ismael. And we do have to remember there are lots of weird names around.",
"Congratulations to them",
"If you're not racist, sexist, or homophobic, then you should stop voting Republican until your party stops being racist, sexist, and homophobic. If you're a member of a party that actively suppresses rights, then you're as complicit in their actions.",
"Something about crossing swords....",
"Then I may have to stop voting for a while or find some third party. I want an American with equal opportunity for all and great health care, but also a strong reliable military, the best in the world, support for the criminal justice system (I come from a family of police and wish to be one myself) and a refined immigration system where we let immigrants come here legally easier, as opposed to letting illegal immigrants come, and still weed out terrorists and criminals.",
"But the real question is are we animals ?? Nooo we are humans and the way we reproduce is with a male and female... therefore it is unnatural! Man was made to reproduce with another female but u tell me how can the population continue if many people decide to be homosexuals ? ",
"I didn't vote Trump, nor do I approve of what he does.",
"Don't worry. Eventually there will be enough of us to be able to make a difference, and the Republican party will make a resurgence back to its routes of trying to make America the greatest country in the world.",
"Can we stop with the marriage pictures please? This isn't Facebook. ",
"Good job stroking your own ego. Not like you personally passed any gay marriage laws. ",
"It's worth it just to scroll down to the outraged comments.",
"And nothing of value was lost",
"[There was actually a storyline in WWE back in 2002 that had a gay marriage ceremony (called a \"commitment\" ceremony at the time). However, just before they tied the knot it was revealed that the whole thing was a publicity stunt.](https://youtu.be/o4mrRVBt71M)\n\nIt was pretty controversial at the time.",
"I'm a straight Software Engineer. I'd totally start fucking dudes to fly an Apache.",
"So, Dave, my children tell me you are a tailgunner... I used to be a military man myself...(WW2 Veteran)",
"Which God? I'm a fan of Odin myself. He has an eight legged steed which is cool!",
"So, Dave, my children tell me you are a tailgunner... I used to be a military man myself...(WW2 Veteran)\n\n",
"My parents taught me to mind my own business and so whether I think that it's normal or not doesn't matter because it's their life and not my problem how they choose to spend it.",
"Gay people have been serving in the military since it started. The fact that you think the US is so delicate that it can't withstand some dudes getting married tells me you don't have much faith in it.",
"TIL people doing things you disagree with is brainwashing",
"Ah here you are! Didn’t want to echo any comments but that was quite a nice touch with the last bit! lol",
"Haha not necessarily..",
"LOL the swords are crossing ",
"Brittle spirit.",
"That sword touch tho.",
"Interesting, my infantry buddy said all the other air support would wuss out at times, but never the female Kiowa pilots - apparently they would stay much longer than was safe, if troops were in contact on the ground",
"GTFO. BOWTIES ARE PURE CLASS!\n\n(sorry I just really like bowties) ",
"I've heard of helicopter parents but this is ridiculous.",
"Just the tips. \n\nWhat are we talking about here?",
"I always get a chuckle out of gay military demonstrations. \nAs a liberal, I know it gets under the skin of what is mostly a bastion of conservative and an overtly overly masculine association. ",
">*I WANT SOME BUTTS!*",
"Yeah and you played offense right? ",
"What about conservatism in the last twenty years had anything to do with “spreading the wealth around”? I think you’re far off the mark on this one. ",
"I tell civilians the Army Service Ribbon is awarded for service during DADT. Most of them just nod appreciatively. ",
"No one yelled out, \"Gaaaayyyyy!\" ?",
"Fuck you, we have better waffles over here, have fun in America!",
"That machine is death incarnate. I can say without a doubt I have friends that wouldn't be alive if not for Apache Pilots. Those guys won't hesitate to kill every last enemy combatant they can find.",
"It's the internet dipshit, were here to have fun. And I would say all of these things and worse in person. Go moderate a forum or something :)",
"They're both Academy graduates.",
"Means he’s an 11B (Infantryman)",
"damn dude, I identify you as lame, who cares about your sex!",
"Our country needs Republicans like you to be louder!",
"I hope Mike Pence gets a real good look at this picture. I'd love to ask him what it feels like to be on the wrong side of history.",
"Ugh! ",
"I thought the same thing once. Next thing I knew I was getting yelled at by a Drill Sergeant. If I had it to do over again I wouldn't change anything.",
"Are you telling me traveling the world to attempt to solve major current issues puts the world in a certain perspective?? ",
"Late to the party, but...\n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/IVwU1yc.jpg",
"You're absolutely right thank you President Obama.",
"You're right thank you President Obama.",
"That sad that that happened to you and I know its partially not your fault and also not your decision BUT\nwhat did you do in that persons country and why did you drive their around armed? So didn’t your goverment made you occupy another country and sent there to murder people who try to defend themselves? \nthis way the whole I’m not a murderer, just a killed thing get a whole other thing. \n\nand yes you are right I didn’t kill anyone because I would never want to be part of some biased politician game. ",
"Slice the gay away?\nBery classy uniforms",
"That's really the only definition of \"better\" that we have for these types things.",
"If nothing else I hope Trump will trigger some much needed politicalm reform in the US. You guys deserve a lot better than the two vague coalitions filled with contradictory interest groups that you call GOP/Democrats! ",
"Sometimes when people are hungry they get food.",
"Hey, wanna cross swords?",
"We usually only give half points for orphans, how much would that give her? ",
"I definitely love it when civilians tell me all about the army.",
"I don't give a s*** what they do in their off time. Bring that f****** cannon and some rockets to the fight.",
"I know, right?\n\nThose two first swords are being held in a completely non-symetrical way. C'mon lads, this is for love and this wonderful couple! Put a bit more effort into it!",
"I know...\n\nOnly 1 pair of those swords are touching at the tip properly.\n\nCome on guys! This is to celebrate a couples love! Make an effort!",
"You do know those are two men right? There is no bride at their wedding.",
"Its sad how many homophobic comments have 100+ upvotes.",
"Engaging in degeneracy.",
"Then why are they Republican? Republicans pass a lot of sexist, racist, and homophobic laws. You'd think they'd be repulsed by them.\n\nI know Trump republicans are in the minority but it was mainstream Republicans who didn't want me to get married.\n\n ",
"They'll still suffer a lot of harassment. Things have changed, but not that much.",
"The full quote:\n“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one’s lifetime.”\n\n*The Innocents Abroad*, Mark Twain, 1869\n\nWritten while on a trip through Europe and the Holy lands, btw. \n",
"SHARP!\n\nNah jk. Congrats.",
"In the old days you could tell a Cavalry horse from a normal horse because it's cock was on its back.",
"Got it.\n\nAnd now she’s gotten tired. What now?",
"Those gentlemen in front are literally crossing swords. Are they next?",
"everyone still call them like that)\nbelieve me, there is no so big crowd of us as i'd like to, but we r still exists. ",
"Sometimes when people get tired it's time to go beddy-bye. Of all the comments I made on this post this is not the one I thought I would get a response too. ",
"K I have her set down to rest and she’s quiet now.\nIs it cool if I message you again later if she wakes up?",
"I'm trying to get back to sleep good luck.",
"*Searches CONTROVERSIAL posts*\n\nStand back boys, I'm going in!!!",
"Which movie?",
"So?",
"Hahaha, that one went way over my head",
"So?",
"The guy on the right also finds it hilarious.",
"where is the bride?",
"If this is being upvoted because it is two military men marrying, it should just be accepted rather than praised like it's some unlikely event.",
"Quentin Tarantino talks like he's on cocaine 24/7",
"I am 1000% opposed to helicopter marriage ",
"Same, complete letdown ",
"I spat my OJ \nHave an upvote",
"Gaaaaay",
"This really triggers me. \n\nThey are called Native Americans.",
"Trump is gonna see this and lose his SHIT!!!",
"You probably get together with your buddies and talk about queer this and faggot that and how the gays are ruining things and how gross gay sex is and then realize that you're talking about gay stuff A LOT. ",
"Fuck that movie is super bad but so good.",
"Seriously wut? ",
"If they adopt a kid, who's last name does the kid keep? Coin toss?",
"I know, people being happy, fuck that, right? ",
"Don't worry about it chief",
"These wernt the only swords that were getting crossed that evening ",
"Yaaaaaaaas",
"conceded or nah?",
"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee",
"No, a camera did.",
"\" GAY \"...privilege...reddit didn't care about my wedding.",
"I love sorting by controversial.",
"Looks like we found a little keyboard Warrior LOL",
"How so? ",
"Right? But people who don't have to experience this sometimes are immensely curious about what their armed forces are experiencing, so I provide. ",
"We were fortunate enough that the pilots that came on air when we needed them, did a damn good job. I've watched A-10 Warthogs do gun runs/drop bombs danger close for a solid hour at least. There were 2 and 1 apache. They would do very low runs until low fuel, go fill up, come back and do it again (like I can read the fucking words on the bird kinda low). It's possible only one a-10 had to refuel since he'd been flying a lot that day. It's been a long time. \n\nI've also seen a Kiowa pilot fly low enough to be in pistol range. The copilot literally opened his door, hung halfway out with his pistol, then proceeded to fire a fucking M9 (pistol) at the enemy fighters. We were in the mountains in a remote region. Pilots doing their job long enough to shave down enemy numbers was essential. I remember a mission in the Shuriak valley, that without air support, I wouldn't be typing this right now I don't think.\n\nFormatting, structure, spells, grammar. All that shit.",
"Haha they're crossing swords \n\nIll see myself out\n",
"A lot of them are friends/classmates from the time spent at West Point. ",
"Bro I spent two months showering with 50 other guys, sharing shower heads. Nothing's gay to me anymore. ",
"Jesus even tepid remarks melt the snow flakes here. ",
"Can you point to an instance where Obama suggested anything like that? I genuinely cannot. He did speak about reducing inequality but that's not the same thing.",
"And who lead the gentrification? A tremendous gay community that adopted a beautiful but war-torn town no one else wanted.",
"omg gay ",
"There were probably *hundreds* of 'crossing swords' jokes!",
"yep. Beautiful old Victorian homes sat empty, and the school system there is shit but (most) gay people didn't have to worry about that, so they were able to snag these houses and rebuild the town. Asbury resident checking in! ",
"Asbury is my favorite place. Lived there for 2 years before moving to NYC and would have stayed if the commute was doable. What an awesome place to live as a dog owner. ",
"Revolting ",
"Homosexuality would seem more normal if there weren't such outspoken, angry, and judgemental criticizing it. It wouldn't be in the news if the right didn't care so much to control other people's love interests.",
"No, he doesn't.",
"You became a soldier? Which force? The army?",
"Maybe in the 50's but my point is half of Asbury and Neptune is still a proverbial shit hole and no one's developing there. I work in architecture in the area and that's not necessarily the driving factor of the last twenty years is my point. There are a lot of single people and couples that don't want kids that move here from New York as well. There's a lot of single people that move south and come to the Monmouth and Ocean county areas in Jersey. They've been crucial to restoring a lot of these types of towns. Keyport is going through a similar turnaround now with a lot of new construction. This entire area is over developed because of how many people are leaving NY and upstate Jersey for cost of living. I'm talking from the perspective of how hard it was to develop anything in Asbury 15 years ago. People just weren't willing to invest in the town and I don't think gay people from NY are the entire reason for that which is my point. Asbury is nothing without the condos, restaurants, and bars that have seen the city rounding its corners. That's the part that's gentrifying the area today. Wealthy people from NY love these areas. Look at Belmar and Seaside. You see this happening all over but no question Asbury's gay friendly historically. I just don't think that makes it all that unique in a state where that's extremely common. NJ has a ton of countries with mediocre school systems despite being a good education system overall",
"Hey sport, you're getting butthurt over internet comments. Try some lube in the future, you'll be okay!",
"Those sabers aren't the only swords getting crossed that day.",
"I just think now our part of the state is a final stop for New Yorkers before they finally give up andmove to Florida. This entire area is over developed. I know this is the history of the town, but in the last decade most of the coastal towns have done very well, and very few of the coastal areas of Jersey have worthwhile school systems. Sandy, the economy, and property tax politics have been yuge for the city in recent years",
"Its only gay if you cross swords! Oh...",
"Sorry, by what moral authority is this considered degeneracy?",
"Gee willikers mister, thanks for the advice. When you figure out how to handle gay marriage without sounding like retarded fossil let me know? Maybe you can offer your opinion on the wicked sinful opioid crisis or how to deal with all those pesky illegals",
"> Right now, everybody’s so pinched that business is bad for everybody. And I think when you *spread the wealth around*, it’s good for everybody.\n\nObama, October 12, 2008, Toledo, Ohio. \n\nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqI5PSRcXM",
"Human nature. ",
"Dude shut the fuck up and stop being a pansy. It's the internet get the fuck outta here",
"Donald Trump is turning over his tupee.",
"Just a couple of happy dudes getting married. Idk what you're so confused about here. ",
"Ahahah okay, so what do you consider 'human nature' to be? Are we talking biological determinism or what? ",
"...he said without knowing any history.",
"> six years ago, even admitting you were gay was enough to get you booted from the service. \n\nThat's my point. ",
"[Eurotrip](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0356150/?ref_=nv_sr_1)",
"Ha gay ",
"Heiss",
"As someone who identified as an attack helicopter I can get off to this",
"The gay community was the first-mover community in the rebirth of Asbury Park. They took the risks no one else would and started to make parts of town acceptable. There are still sketchy parts of AP, but their footprint is shrinking. Condos and restaurants were planned for decades and nothing happened. Once the gay community started pushing things forward, those other plans jelled.\n\nIt’s still a corrupt city with a distinct difference between the east and west side of the railroad. That’s been true for over 100 years.\n\nThe rebirth is far from over, but is damn nice to see it happening.\n\n\n\nNeptune is another story - it’s always had good and bad parts. Ocean Grove is much better than it was 20 years ago.\n\nAnd, of course, the community that helped turn OG around? Yep, gay.\n",
"Compare Long Branch to Asbury Park. LB is a decade or more behind AP.",
"Lmao could your name be any more relevant? Surely your time would be better spent on the donald, where no one outside of that circle jerk actually cares what you have to say.",
"Last word last word last word ",
"Compare Long Branch to Belmar. All of these areas are recovering from the storm at different paces and NJ as a whole has a lot of people leaving and moving south, but despite that, none of the shore towns are really struggling too bad now. I do a lot of work on new homes and condos in LB and the Highlands as well. Businesses and homes are popping up all over the shore. It's been really great to see. Areas with cheaper residential housing took a while longer, and flood zoning is a factor now as well which is part of it in Long Branch",
"Is that why moderate republicans get ousted in Primaries? Do the non-racist, non-sexist, non-homophobic republicans just not vote? Or are they in minority after all?",
"Hey yeah they’re being condescending about it but it just seems hard to believe that anyone this day and age anyone could think something as innocent as two men pressing their mouths together is gross. \n\nBut that’s awesome you still support the cause. ",
"Look out. We’re going to recruit your children. \n\nLol imagine being that fucking stupid. ",
"> And, of course, the community that helped turn OG around? Yep, gay.\n\nI'm not disagreeing that gay bars and gay New Yorkers have been in Asbury for 80 years. I'm just saying quality architecture and entrepreneurs are the reason these shore towns have been resilient in the last twenty years. People are buying the homes at substantial value and pushing away the seedy parts of town in many, many shore communities. Asbury is not an outlier as a beach city experiencing a renaissance. In the 30s and 40s, Asbury had gay bars when that was unheard of and in some cases illegal. That made it a popular attraction and they're a huge part of the culture. Agreed. My point is the resurgence of businesses on the shore is happening everywhere and its great to see. It's the kind of thing that could never happen in AC, but most of the midnorthern coast has been really impressive since the storm. Even areas like Brick and Point Pleasant are seeing property values skyrocket and thus crazy increase in development. That's not consistent for the rest of the state. We've watched this state build back the shore towns for 20 years now and I think Asbury's starting to find its former glory now as a cause. Gay people and gay culture are crucial to a lot of beach towns that were built by a lot people in NJ. There's just more to what created modern Asbury and its comeback in the last ten years than Victorian houses. I'm not trying to knock anyone's contribution lol I'm just saying rich new yorkers in general are a pretty huge factor in the gentrification occuring in this state",
"Right, which is why I said that obviously the progress we've made has been excellent and substantial, but instead of congratulation ourselves, we should recognize that America is, for many minorities including the LGBT community, still a very unsupportive or even hostile place.",
"> This was just last weekend.\n\nBest news all year.",
"I too went to highschool with Dan. (Now going through all your Reddit history to see if I can figure out who you are)",
"Your mother is all right! Get it, Coral? Get it? Your mother is *all right!*",
"Somewhat surprisingly, they didn’t!",
"Congratulations gentlemen.",
"Lol. It’s the name of my band. Ever heard of satire? Btw if someone posts something publicly where anybody can see it they better be ready do deal with it. I’m not sure what a circle jerk is but I’m pretty sure you’re heavily involved in it. ",
"I think my brother is roommates with your brother! ",
"A Kiowa pilot named Amber Smith [wrote a book](https://www.google.com/amp/s/taskandpurpose.com/danger-close-is-the-first-major-war-memoir-told-from-a-kiowa-pilots-perspective/amp/) about her experience called Danger Close back in 2016. I've been meaning to pick it up, it looks interesting. It's cool to see that the female Kiowa pilots have a good rap amongst those who have fought with them in combat.",
"Lol \"satire\", more like appropriate self image. What are they supposed to deal with? Your rampaging ignorance? Why should anyone have to deal with that? Just like it's your right and prerogative to spew ignorant nonsense, it's also mine to say fuck you and your hick ways. ",
"United States Army.",
"Thank you....",
"Yup, fuck being happy. Happy is overrated now a days. ",
"> but instead of congratulation ourselves, we should recognize that America is, for many minorities including the LGBT community, still a very unsupportive or even hostile place.\n\nWe can do both, and that's not only, it's *important*.",
"It's just a hang up gay men have. We hate when people call us women. ",
"I can’t put my finger on it either. It’s just the way my brain thinks, unfortunately. I don’t understand why I’m getting down voted to oblivion. I fully support and respect these guys, for both their service and their bravery. Guess I should have kept my opinion to myself. ",
"That's fair. I meant no disrespect. I'll try to not make this mistake again.",
"You're good. It's just the culture we are brought up in. I still have a bad habit of thinking \"that's gay\". In my head gay doesn't mean homosexual in that context because it was used so interchangeably with dumb or stupid when I was growing up. If my rambling makes sense. lol",
"^ this guy politics",
"Phew, good thing they stopped to kiss right their or they might have gotten their penises chopped off.",
"He'd probably say something not eating where he goes to the bathroom, and that the right side of history has the best bathrooms and the least meat.\n\n I don't know. I'm just trying to be almost clever, probably failing.",
"It makes sense. When you first responded, I thought you were being homophobic. Turns out I was! Oops-a-daisy",
"Dismissing other people’s signs of affection as gross is a little immature. Especially when you add in the context of two gay soldiers having a military wedding. The downvotes aren’t totally unfair. ",
"Some kind of sword fighting is happening there.",
"What branch did you serve?",
"Hi, Dipshit here... sticks and stones, child. When you so enthusiastically call me out for interfering with your ‘Internet fun’ do you recognize it’s purpose and effect is to take away and demean the dignity of gay people? Gay bashing lessens everyones humanity. Do you recognize it is demeaning to all people who believe in basic integrity. When you say you’d do much worse let’s hear it , bigmouth. Have you got a strain of hate crime in you? Just how loathsome are you? \n\nAt least you have a chorus of support from one comrade , even though mono-syllabic.",
"I understand your point, I just think you are underestimating what the gay community did.\n\nIf it all it took was rich New Yorkers, Long Branch would be a boom town. But it’s not. It’s a dump. Just like Asbury Park was. \n\nThe only decent area of Long Branch is the one place built specifically for rich New Yorkers, and it is like an enclave with no benefit to the rest of the town.\n\nAsbury Park’s rebirth has been from the roots up. The investment in businesses didn’t come because New Yorkers moved in: it came because a largely gay community had already done the dirty work.\n\nTo put in another way....\n\nAsbury Park from 1990 to now:\n- Dump\n- Gay people and others with guts and foresight start improving the dump.\n- Businesses start to open because there is a need\n- City starts to look upwards, New Yorkers and others take notice\n- Rebirth in full swing\n\n\nLong Branch from 1990 to now\n\n- Dump\n- No gay revival\n- one area of the boardwalk revamped for rich out of towners\n- Rest of the city? Still a dump.\n\n\n",
"When Long Branch has just one area comparable to AP’s Cookman Ave area, then I will be impressed.",
"In our culture this needs to be praised until the bigots realize they’ve lost yet another fight with the adults and fuck off somewhere to invent some new bullshit lie to hate.\n\nIt’ll probably be the “deep state” (imaginary Democrats!) because the pump is already primed on that moronic horseshit.",
"No, he’s just sad both those men are officially off the market.",
"Dude. Now that’s a triggering. Haha!!!! Kindly explain to me why you think I’m ignorant? Disagreeing with someone’s morals or values hardly qualifies them as ignorant. ",
"Fallacy of unlimited tolerance, 5 yard penalty.",
"That’ll stop happening when bigoted retards stop crying about seeing it.",
"Roger that.",
"Odd... they don't look like Native Americans...\n\nThey look like service members in their formal uniforms, celebrating their marriage. Congratulations, you two. Warmest wishes for a lifetime of happiness.",
"Do you genuinely want immigrants and dreamers dead, since that’s the president you supported and continue to support?",
"Welcome to the comments late moron. Your stupid comment is in no way a comprable parallel. The users name was /u/Genocide4TrumpTards. His username, albeit likely a troll, directly called for the death of people who have anything to do with President Trump. How do you think that's at all appropriate? Amusingly enough the coward deleted his posts.\n\nNow, on to your ignorant comment. President Trump has never stated in any way that he wan't immigrants and dreamers dead. Your statement is not only factually incorrect, it's just plain stupid.\n\nWhat President Trump wants, and what most Americans want, is for people who are here ILLEGALLY to be removed. Do you even understand what the word \"illegal\" means? It means that something is contrary to the law. When you steal, that is illegal because the law states that you can not steal. Makes sense right? Our nation is built on laws. So how is it fair to LEGAL immigrants that criminals, and yes, that's exactly what they are as they are breaking laws by coming here, are allowed to stay when legal immigrants have spent thousands of dollars and many years, most times over a decade, following the proper laws to enter our country LEGALLY. How it is fair to those people who have spent so much time and money? Please, do not bother replying to me unless your answer includes why amnesty is fair to LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.\n\nAs for \"dreamers\". President Obama even said that his actions were a temporary solution. You know what the Dreamers were supposed to do? They were supposed to get their papers together when they came of age to apply for citizenship. It would have been far easier for them to attain citizenship than it would have been for the immigrants who are following proper channels to enter this country legally. The Dreamers who did this...they are no longer dreamers. They're legal citizens. The ones who didn't, well, if they're too lazy to take the chance that Obama handed to them, why should they be given another chance?\n\nSo to answer the CORRECT question, Yes, I do want ILLEGAL immigrants and dreamers returned to their home countries. That is exactly why I support our President.",
"This is kinda flawed logic, because again, every shore town is booming and none of them needed a \"gay revival\" in the last twenty years to do it. I'm not saying you're not right. I'm just saying you're exaggerating this point quite a bit and centering your entire logic around long branch not having enough fine dining or boatdwalk. They don't have much room for that. They're completely different areas and plenty of other coastal cities are booming right now that do have the space. Belmar, Keyport, the Highlands, and Brick are also on similar upswings. Coastal real estate is treasured here and the market has stabilized across the board. Much bigger factor than Victorian homes but again I understand your point. It's part of the city's character and history. It's just not the reason for the turnaround of the last ten years. Asbury was still in rough shape just a decade ago as so many ocean towns were. Even Red Bank had some really tough years. This economy has been very good to the shore. Thanks Obama.",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7MiSvm8VdY&t=1s",
"Since sending them home includes a consequence f death, you want them dead.\n\nThat’s all you had to say, hypocrite.",
"Very sexy! ",
"That is the gayis shit I'v ever seen",
"Long Branch has plenty of room. The entire downtown is a dump. No community - gay, straight or otherwise has embraced Long Branch - and thus it remains a dump.",
"Okie dokie.",
"Good old NR ",
"The biological purpose of the human race is to procreate. Engaging in homosexual acts defies that.",
"So everything that doesn't contribute to procreation is degenerate? ",
"Well, homosexuality is a direct violation of our biological purpose.",
"So is murder, warfare, and oral. If you consider anything that defies the biological purpose of the human race (procreation) to be degenerate then there's no reason you shouldn't be calling half the shit posted on reddit 'propoganda.'",
"Well, sometimes when you have one aggressor, warfare is sometimes needed to protect one's country. \n\n\nAnd you are right, half of reddit is pretty much degeneracy.",
"I'm a bit autistic, and even I'm pretty sure that most of these are sarcastic, or jests in good nature. There'd be a lot more edited comments, were they not.",
"\"The toll is a kiss! Now kisskisskiss.\"",
"So your criteria for something to be 'degenerate' includes a wide array of things, why are you only calling two gay men 'propaganda?'",
"oh shit its ur face\n\ncool\n\nthx for the link bro",
"So even though they were living there before, once they move and come back, it's fatal? How stupid are you?\n\nNo, I don't want them dead. Don't try spinning words you simpleton. Explain how you seem to KNOW that deportation is a 100% death sentence. I'd like to see how much kool-aide you've drunk already.\n\nEDIT: And unless you explain how you find a username like genocide4trumptards to be in any way appropriate as a civil human being, I will accept that as your admittance that everything I have said up to this point is 100% correct. Thank you.",
"and jealous that he got stuck with that wife.. Every time Mikey sees the hot military dudes, his knees buckle !",
"What do you mean I am a troll their swords are not aligned at all I hate it!"
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"That’s what I answer on the census.",
"This will not age well.Someone’s gonna find this in a 100 years and we will look so racist as humans when there are immigrants from other planets.",
"Don't go giving people ideas like this. It starts out all peace and love, then the next thing you know we are overthrowing the bourgeoisie.",
"Its not even really correct now. Genetically speaking we arent even really one species",
"Someone fell asleep in class.",
"Right on!",
"Scratch a Republican and a fascist bleeds. ",
"Until a Humans First agenda becomes a thing I'll take it.",
"Yeah, you. Unless you count neanderthals and homo sapiens to be the same species. Which most people dont. And then there are desanovans and other hominids.",
"Uh huh. That's what this is all about, neanderthals.",
"Whats it about?",
"One Race: Formula 1",
"You're either stupid or trolling, either way I'm not interested.",
"I'm in.",
"And people marrying cows",
"Wr need a proper alien invasion to put things in perspective.",
"One world, one tribe. ",
"So you actually dont know what you are talking about",
"Go back to the cesspool, your lack of ability to converse in a productive manner is showing.",
"Not accurate. Neanderthals mated with homo sapiens and their genes are present in every population except sub saharan Africans. The only real homo sapien around now would be them. Everyone else genetically speaking is a mutt. ",
"I mean you still havent said anything that refutes anything i said. Please get educated about anthropology and genetics and try again.",
"Bye bye.",
"And you still reply as if having the last word makes you cocorrect somehow. Back to your ignorance chamber you go!",
"Humans interbred with neanderthals. So you could say we are alive and well, Thagg.",
"I say this all the time. Love it!",
"Except sub saharan africans which are purebloods. ",
"Great now u/GallowBoob is getting into the protest signs thing. You see what you've done to r/pics?",
"I said this over in r/politics and was downvoted into the depths of hell.\n\nPlace is a cesspool... ",
"The whole concept of race ~~hiarchy~~ hierarchy has been responsible for some heinous atrocities throughout human history. The only time race should matter for anything is healthcare diagnosis and porn filters.\n\nEdit: Meant hierarchy. Auto collect has failed me. ",
"I heard when you do the same to a leftist genocide happens ",
"http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35595661#orb-footer",
"Politics is one of the worse subs to ever exist ",
"In general",
"Race is still a designation. Human would be a species.",
"Yeah! Except the fucking Dutch!",
"A subspecies maybe but not the same. You cant have 2 or more different species intermix and still have the same species. A lion and tiger dont create a lion or tiger when they mate. In our case we were able to have viable offpsring and continue reproducing, unlike ligers.\n\n We can say we are all human but genetically we differ.",
"It really is. I don't miss it.",
"You heard that from a Republican, no doubt.",
"Time for a #WeAllMatter movement!",
"Look who posted it. No-one gives a shit what OP says. They just get upvoted every time.",
"Yes exactly my point. Some humans interbred with neanderthals. Some didnt. ",
"Those damn belters!",
"History. ",
"I don't see race in porn.",
"Well, yeah.",
"Ewww, you're one of those Trump voters aren't you? Ick.",
"Wait isn't that exactly what this is?",
"No.",
"So true. We should have all porn actors undergo rigorous DNA testing to give us more accurate filters. Its hard to find 1/8th Scottish ginger, 1/2 Japanese uncensored, 1/4th Jewish, and 1/8th German porn",
"I took a quick look to see your posts in /r/PopulationGenetics and stopped immediately upon seeing you call the wing on a PAGANI MOTHERFUCKING ZONDA a shitty car mod.\n\nYou can't even cut it as a charlatan.",
"You are ignoring racism then. You racist.",
"Sure. If you see race, you are a racist. If you do not see race you are ignoring racism and you are a racist.",
"That post must be too meta for you ",
"That's a series. One race: Formula 1 Spa.",
"I'm stuck. ",
"Viva la baguette!",
"I, for one, welcome our new tentacled overlords.",
"Yeah! Absolutely!\n\n\nUnless of course it's about who gets extra funding, or what colour actors are, or what colour police victims are, or...",
"Unrelatedly, if I had this sign I would probably go around to stuff and move the sign back and forth so in perspective it looked like I was jacking that thing off.",
"Racist standing with it in front of District 9",
"I wish people would stop protesting for equality already it's getting on my nerves I see it everywhere",
"That's probably it.",
"Somewhere out there in the internets is a kid who thinks Japanese people naturally have their naughty bits all scrambled and pixelated. ",
"> we aren't even really one species\n\nAt best you could argue we're different subspecies. We are definitely all the same species---there wasn't near enough time for speciation to occur. \n",
"Desanovan lives matter.\n\nOr, **ugh ugga mooga...**",
"PLEASE REPORT TO DIAGNOSTICS.\nhttps://imgur.com/a/ft6kd",
"Just build like a big wall thing around the planet, stop those imgents",
"Where are your posts talking about actual racism like the libyan slave trade or the systematic murder of white farmers in Zimbabwe and South Africa? \n\nOh right it won't get you enough clicks. Way to use that platform bro.",
"Id say anyone above the sahara is a subspecies of homo sapien. Homo sapien below the sahara remains untainted by other hominids.",
"This is the safest, most sterile protest sign ever.",
"It's really simple. Racism exists. If you don't acknowledge that fact and pick a side, you default to the side of the racists. Whether or not race actually exists is irrelevant. Hope this was useful!",
"> you default to the side of the racists\n\nwhich side is that?\n",
"We'd better. Else then we'll be severely disadvantaged when the Orcs show up.",
"I think you're just confused about the scale of admixture.\n\nIt's not like Eurasians are half neanderthal...or SE Asians are half denisovan. They are both modern humans with very, very tiny amounts of admixture with other hominids.",
"But this is an *anti*-classist message...",
"You're ignoring food then. You cook.",
"Racists believe some races are superior to others. If you don't oppose racism, you're passively condoning that belief, which is incompatible with the belief that there is one human race. Therefore, the belief in one human race cannot be used to turn a blind eye to racism. Hope this was useful!",
"So ignore racism. You racist /s",
"Figured that was a given, right?",
"The minor differences we see between these groups is **not** the result of admixture, for the most part.",
"That's... kind of an odd thing to say. Care to elaborate?",
"It's not racist to notice the obvious differences between groups of people. Is it racism responsible for Asians being better at math than anyone else?\n\nWe are all different. No one race is 'superiour', but pretending we are all the same isn't real either. ",
"I can't maintain any form of erection (including spinal) if the actors don't have at least 1/8th Mongolian heritage. ",
"Oprah is not gonna like this...watch the raven interveiw",
"My sentiments exactly.",
"Racism is the belief we are different because of race. If Asians are in actual fact better at math, it's because of linguistic / cultural reasons, not race. \"How do you explain Asians\" is one of the most debunked arguments in the racist arsenal. Next.\n\n> No one race is 'superiour', but pretending we are all the same isn't real either.\n\nBelief in one human race isn't contingent on linguistic or cultural homogeny. However, your wording does betray that you believe in distinct races. It's okay, though, people can change! Recognize the error(s) in your thinking and become a better person!",
"Very original",
"Yeah the smudges on the n's are exactly the same",
"I never said they were. I said genetically speaking. There are homo sapiens, which reside below the Sahara and never intermixed. And there are people above that intermixed with Neanderthals and other hominids. ",
"Yep, but the mixing was very minor.",
"Yes, only 1 race. \nOnly humans, not lizard people, they don't exist ha^ha^^ha^^^ha",
"That makes no sense. Too general. \n\nMay as well go: “I blame everyone who isn’t me for all my problems.”",
"The best race is the human race, fuck those animals and aliens ",
"*species",
"Kind of. We have discovered skeletons with like 12 percent Neanderthal genes and we have people living now with like 5 percent. Thats just what we can i.d and just Neanderthals. \n\nThe mixing was major enough to help drive Neanderthals to extinction.\n\nMuch to the dismay if white supremacists the only pure race is black",
"It saddens me to think that racism is still such a big part of our society. What’s even more sad is the fact that this will not go away anytime soon. I can’t even imagine how much better our world would be without it.\n\n[edit] being downvoted by the racists lol",
"For real. We need unity.\n\nBecause if aliens come, and we still fighting amongst ourselves, the aliens win. GG.",
"Sometimes the simplest messages are the most meaningful. Timing makes them powerful! <3",
"Could be different for other doctors, but \"race\" has never factored into my workup for a patient. It doesn't help me decide what's more likely, or sway me into ordering a test. To me, race is a mishmash of geography, geneology, and categorization of superficial physical features than biological science. I'm not a geneticists, but the genetic tests for race seem questionable. However, there are a few equations that use race as variables, like kidney filtration rate, which I find weird. Although, they are only estimates trying to fit into datasets as best as possible.",
"That is his point the bourgeois refers to the wealthy elite. They are the ones who like the class system because they owe their high class lifestyle to it. Therefore they would be the ones getting \"overthrown\" if the class system were removed.",
"Imagine the comment is referring to things like sickle cell anemia",
"But what will be do without alien immigrants to do menial tasks like harvesting crops and curing disease?",
"If you are white you are racist. FTFY\n\n/s obviously",
"So say we all.",
"I dunno, I've met a lot of really intelligent parakeets.",
"When I was 10, I actually thought they just had really ugly genitals that had to be blurred out. I was not a smart kid.",
"Aliens deserve to win",
"Human isn’t a race it’s a species.",
"Nope can't say all lives matter and we're all the same. It's offensive. ",
"**Lizard People Lives Matter**",
"Krijg de tering kanker angelsaks\nHerstel de VOC-Mentaliteit",
"We can't ignore that racism exists and pretend to be color blind to it though. Racism is systemic and omnipresent, a dominant cultural idea that gets reproduced through media. \n\nWe have to recognize that race is a social construct that we can deconstruct and stop caring about it, but we do have to deconstruct it first.",
"I mean, if future interstellar aliens can't use context clues to figure out we're the only ones known of on the planet in 2018, and that it's not racist, well, we've got bigger problems...",
"Don't worry, some other arbitrary differentiation will take it's place. Humans are really good at creating in groups and out groups given the slightest difference. Shit, that Stanford prison experiment? They even knew that shit was a study and were split into groups at random. ",
"All of the fingers look like [Cyril Sneers nose.](http://img.sharetv.com/shows/characters/large/the_raccoons_ca.cyril_sneer.jpg)",
"I fully agree with the main post. If that was a white male holding that poster. The down vote percent would be far worst than 18% right now.",
"Why in the hell were you watching porn at 10?!",
"yeah! Protest signs should be divisive! Mutual respect, cooperation, and equality will get us no where! Everyone not like me is bad!\n",
"It even has the right number of fingers",
"Probabaly more out of curiosity. People mature at different ages ",
"Perhaps not, but that's not evidence to support the idea of race. Physical differences, such as long legs in the case of Kenyans or almond eyes in the case of Asians, do not constitute distinct races.",
"***IT'S OK TO BE HUMAN***",
"If that amazes you, then you should hear about when I discovered weed.",
"That's only the half of the mirror. Humans tend naturally to be kind and generous and even put their lives at risk to help strangers. ",
"Inb4 extraterrestrials",
"I don't know why you got downvoted for this, I see your political posts all the time.",
"Oh for sure. We have a huge capacity for both good and evil. ",
"As a Reptilian, I am offended.",
"STOP WITH THE POLITICAL SIGNS IN R/PICS. GOD DAMMIT.\n\nEdit: lol people make so many assumptions. Reddit is a shithole place.",
"Couldn't have been too dumb. Sounds like you found a good source of porn at 10.",
"This is refreshing after seeing all of these useless (imo) signs about vaginas. ",
"Yes, that is one example that is used widely for the skewed distribution of genetic disorders. There are 2 questions here, whether race exists, I don't think so, and whether it helps with differential diagnosis, it has not helped me. \n\nGenetic disorders can have a skewed distribution. If it has a unique origin, then it will be more common in the geographic place of origin. But genes can flow to any part of the world. Sickle cell also appears all over the world, just with varied frequency. If someone told me that their relatives have sickle cell anemia, that would be a strong reason to test for it. If someone told me their ancestry hundreds or thousands of years ago was from a specific continent of the world, that does not help me decide what to do. If someone did not know their family history or recent geneology, and identified as a \"race\" because of superficial physical traits like skin color and facial structure, then that also does not help me decide what to do. \n\nIt hasn't occurred to me yet, but maybe one example of categorization that some may equate as a \"race\" that may affect what I do is something like screening tests for Ashkenazi Jews. I don't consider this as race, more like a stronglydefined social group with restricted genetic movement.",
"I've been saying this for years. Let's all agree that there is only one race!",
"Probably because his posts are exclusively low effort reposts. ",
"We are all citizens of earth.",
"Hiroshima and Nagasaki really did a number on them.",
"Not really in the mood to go down *that* rabbit hole",
"When I was about that age my friend and I found his older brother's porn stash. These turned out to be coprophile mags. I was very confused and repulsed by the idea of sex at that point.",
"Oh dear God...",
"One Race: Indy 500",
"Has nothing to do with his comment though.",
"You traded in for real science. I like you.",
"This is really offensive. Does nobody care about the GENOCIDE of the Neanderthal? Oh, I guess it’s fine to discriminate against them just because we are slightly different species. Fucking human supremacists. ",
"My point I've been making for years this is good ",
"We tried that already. Spoiler: they weren't the good guys. ",
"Damn, REKT SJW DESTROYED!!1 \n/s\n\nI said racism is the belief that we are different because of \"race.\" \"Race\" as a concept is an untenable construct with no scientific basis. Physical differences exist, but if that's the basis for the existence of \"race,\" then there's no end to the number of races you could come up with. *Green-eyed straight brown hair medium complexion average height small feet and large hands master race!* It's quite comically absurd.\n\nEast-Africans may be better suited to marathons due to physical differences, like longer legs relative to their torso, and environmental factors. But that has nothing to do with whether or not race exists.\n\nToo funny!",
"Thank you, lady. This is so heartening to see after so many people try to split us up, sometimes with the best of intentions. ",
"And of course who Google should allow other companies to put on panels at conferences they're invited to. And who the BBC decides to hire with the money the UK government forces citizens to give them. And who can use certain dorms on college campuses like CSU.",
"All we had when I was 10 was stumbling across a torn up readers wives section of Mayfair on a woodland path. ",
"Some of us don’t have to pretend all problems are equal in order to have a discussion about them. But that’s because some of us aren’t self centered trash who refuse to acknowledge other people’s problem unless we get to discuss our own.",
"I would add that studies will find patterns based on what patients self identify as their race. These can be statistics for healthcare disparity of outcomes or quality of care, more of a social issue, or they can be prevalence of disease or response to treatment, more of a biological issue. Whether or not race exists, these statistically significant differences, based on what's being defined and measured, are being observed. \n\nI would imagine that these results could affect decision making in the large scale, like in the public health scenario. But on an individual level, person to person, I haven't found the race a patient identifies with as having an effect on reaching a diagnosis.",
"I mean duh.",
"Holy fuck, gallowboob is still going? Good work man, good dedication.",
"I don't. When they come I'll put them on the dinner table.",
"r/facebook",
"[Where was gondor?](https://youtu.be/uDWMgk6gE2Q)",
"A disease that exists worldwide but which is common in people of West African descent. Nothing to do with brown skin color, as it's not a gene common among Africans in general. \n\nAmericans equate \"black people\" with African-Americans, who in turn are indeed susceptible to sickle-cell, as they're predominantly of West African descent. But then you're not actually talking about the 'black race', you're talking about the demographic of dark-skinned people who live in the USA. \n\nIt's annoying really. It's only American textbooks I've seen that use 'race' much, and when they do they invariably just show how useless it is by having to condition the terms all the time. Along the lines of \"X is common in non-Scandinavian white people\". \n\n'Race' as it's used in America, and was used historically in Europe, really has very little correlation with any useful groupings of genetics. It's a social construct not a biological one. We rarely if ever talk about 'race' in medical education over here in Europe. We do talk about genetic differences in populations, but the 'race' concept isn't actually very useful for that.\n\n",
"Someone is offended by this.",
"Dems are having too much fun abusing the easily misguided though.",
"Damn! She's cool as fuck..",
"This shit pisses me off at work as we do surveys and have to ask for demographic purposes \"what is your racial background\"\n\nWhile I do appreciate the good vibes, human isnt a race. You're just making my job harder.",
"It became code for you don't matter ",
"[Almost](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-F2HKLzB6c)",
"While you’re pondering that ask yourself what’s the ratio of black cornerbacks to white ones in college/ pro football? ",
"I saw a dog with a sign that said \"Earthlings unite, Aliens suck\" next to a Martian with a \"Sol system brotherhood\" t-shirt. They were shunning an Alpha-Centaurian (unironically an actual centaur) with a horse blanket that said, \"Milky way, the only way\" who is worried about the encroachment of the Andromeda galaxy. \n\n\nI think we'd get bored without antagonists.",
"I'm also really surprised it's a woman of color holding it. Such a white guy \"I don't see color\" sentiment. ",
"I'm pretty sure he was kidding fam. Also you're not the mattj from smogon right?",
"Then the robots where born, now it’s organic’s for life, fuck machines. ",
"I'm more afraid of the Tyranids.",
"You... weren't?",
"Unfortunately this is still racist because it doesn't mention my demographic by name.",
"This to me is exactly true to the point.",
"Could we get fewer pictures of people holding signs on this sub please?",
"*Oh yea baby gimme that direct-descendant-of-Genghis-Khan load fuck yea all over my face*",
"So that makes us european descendants filthy mudbloods then?",
"You can just call her a black woman.",
"Maybe, just maybe, not seeing color is a good idea?\n\nWait, no, I'm white, fuck me right?",
"From the thumbnail she looked like Howard Stern.",
"Hell probably a bunch of different types at that. We are just starting to really learn about different hominids and how they mutted each othee out. \n\nSuper interesting subject thats almost impossible to discuss in todays political climate.",
"Meanwhile, a poster that replaces the word human with White is found racist and banned. \n\nAnd a poster with the word replaced with black, is upvoted to the top and praised. \n\nThis poster is left in purgatory",
"Ah, a young republican woman demonstrating against affirmative action. How nice. ",
"I was there when the strength of men failed",
"Shhhhh, you are going to hurt its feelings.",
"Yup. We have to be ready when aliens arrive from space. We need to be united so we can subjugate the aliens and take over the galaxy. \n\nManifest Space Marine. ",
"It’s missing the point of Black Lives Matter. They aren’t trying to say black lives matter more, they’re trying to say black lives matter, too.",
"Lol. There’s no reason this should get less than 1m upvotes",
"more stolen shit from this dope",
"Second only to the religious hierarchy. If we could 'men in black' everyone's knowledge of race and religion we would all be much better off. ",
"I just fill in paternal haplotype information for that stuff. ",
"you mean when the Alien overlords",
"Shields will be splintered!!",
"I don't know what coprophile is and I'm definitely not googling it.",
"Ayy another one. 4 people arguing over the internet on Reddit. ",
"> can broadly be grouped together based on geographic origin\n\nIf anything this is proof of the strength of environmental factors, but the flaw in your logic is that you still presuppose the existence of \"race\" based on ridiculous criteria and are trying to find evidence to confirm your bias. However, no taxa in science is tied to \"geographical origin.\" How absurd! ",
"Yesss! And explore other planets and civilizations already.",
"This is *exactly* the idea that Republicans and conservatives are fighting against.",
"Except white people, they are literally the devil. /s",
"Poopy stuff",
"Well, technically speaking, we're not one race, but rather several races. Being human is being part of the same species, which is even better.\nWe need to recognize the existence of different ethnicities and the typical traits therein. I don't find that to be racist.\nBeing part of the same species is what binds us together. We MUST have different races, and recognizing that celebrates the beautiful diversity our species has.",
"One biology: Earth",
"We will all be BASH(black - Asian-Hispanic) in few years. We just need start banging people of different races.",
"Grey lives matter",
"I think the end goal is we are all treated as the same, and to get there you have to acknowledge decades of systemic problems in regards to individual races.",
"Damned wooden shoes causing deforestation",
"Earthling.",
"Your “woman of color” probably just doesn’t give a fuck about race, and neither should anyone else. Race shouldn’t have any bearing over anyone’s assumed beliefs. ",
"Speaking of age appropriateness and Watership Down...",
"This is kinda dumb. I'd say \"human\" is a species in the sense she means (the textbook definition of a species is a population that's able to mate and produce viable offspring, which obviously, a pair of any humans of any ethnicity are capable of)...\n\nBut race is a social construct as real as any other. It's real because we've made it real.",
"Not sure how well this maps onto biology, but I heard an interesting analogy made between humans and dogs. All human \"races\" are so genetic similar that if we were dogs we wouldn't even be different breeds",
"Correct. The BLM movement was supposed to be an outcry against stereotyping and biases that led to black people being disproportionately (per capital compared to other ethnic groups) being attacked by authority figures (especially police). This backlash was a measured and peaceful response to systematic abuse.\n\nUnfortunately for the movement, the excessive force issue was being taken up by every racial group around the same time. \n\nWhite people who would have joined in generic \"police need to stop shooting unarmed people\" protests were less likely to join BLM protests because the BLM message was a lot more narrow than what they wanted to express. \n\nNot seeing the harm in their action, a lot of white protestors adopted an \"all lives matter\" banner that they believed would 1) not exclude any race, 2) advance a message against police brutality, and 3) also endorse the notion that it is unacceptable to deem any person's life less valuable than another's. \n\nThese early ALM advocates had good intentions but created friction with BLM because their inclusive message was seen as a deflection and dismissal of the BLM message about racial bias. The BLM crowd wanted to emphasize the disproportionate impact of police brutality in their advocacy, and a generic message would have drowned out this issue. \n\nSome racist white protestors also adopted the \"all lives matter\" signage because they were offended at the BLM language. They felt attacked and excluded from the movement and took it the wrong way. The more extreme people in this camp would go out and argue with BLM protesters despite both people essentially wanting the same thing (reasonable, race-neutral policing that did not involve excessive force). \n\nUltimately, the clash between BLM and ALM folks, alongside riot footage and bad spokesmanship, killed what could have been a powerful reform movement. Neither BLM nor ALM really got what they wanted, and opponents to reform were able to play the racial divide to split what could have been a united movement (or at least allied movements).\n\nIt's not like no victories were won (body cameras are now legislatively required in many places now), but a lot less was achieved than could have been achieved.\n\nEdit: fixed a typo",
"Humans aren’t a race, they’re a species.\n\nWith signs like these I can see why racism exists though.",
"\"EAT SHRAKH AND DIE 'YA SHRAKH-EATING SHRAKH!\"",
"I already deconstructed it, you guys need to catch up. Life’s fucking green over here",
"Species is a biological concept. Race is a social concept.",
"It's really not because it denies what each race has been through in history, present struggles, details of the culture, etc.\n\np.s. I'm white too.",
"Yes, exactly! Great breakdown of the situation. Thank you, there were some parts I was still fuzzy about.",
"Seriously. But we have borders and governments telling us some are more human than others. ",
"It's not true though?",
"Until humans treat each other equally regardless of race, then yeah, people should care. You can \"believe\" that the golden rule exists, but it doesn't. ",
"The only reason I don’t stand beside any of the political movements is that even though there are some valid points, most people are very vulgar and hateful.",
"or I can call her \"woman of color\" - either are appropriate (and black woman would be an assumption)",
"Oh my god, he's Irish! I love Irish people, they're just mad, aren't they? They're just mad.",
"One race is very misleading \"RACE EQUALITY\" is a better statement.",
"Small steps, friend. Why should we try to build unity with people (and I mean people, it's not restricted to human) from other planets when there are none here, while we have racial tensions between human groups here?\n\nWhy should all of the various English kingdoms want to seek unity with Europe, when their goal is to unite England? (This is purely an example, I do not know pre-Norman English history)",
"YES I AGREE WITH THIS SIGN AS I AM ALSO A HUMAN. ",
"I agrée to this! You go you wonderful person!",
">to get there you have to acknowledge decades of systemic problems in regards to individual races.\n\nDo you *really?* Or is it more that certain groups feel it's time they received some approximation of justice, for lack of a better term? Because you can easily treat people equally without acknowledging a damn thing about them.",
"Zug zug.",
"Icky....",
"Statements differentiating taxa have nothing to do with how organisms are classified. \n\nAnyway, it has been hilarious talking with you, but I'm sure you have get back to playing video games and hating women, so don't let me take up too much of your time.",
"Dude, at ten, while everybody was at a bbq, my friend and I sneaked into the cool-bachelor-who-lived-across-the-street's house and saw there our first porno. It was already in his VCR and was called Fantasy Follies. I remember it vividly. There was a scene where a bunch of people who were meant to be cuts of meat in a freezer start fucking. And one where a mustachioed man, overtaken with passion, pushes a giant sandwich off of a counter top to go to town on a similarly hirsute young woman. It was at this point that Terry came in and caught us and kicked us out of his house. So we went out to play Jarts and contemplate what we'd seen. I miss 1986.\n\nedit: it somehow never occurred to me to look for this on the internet. Well [here](http://tubepornclassic.com/videos/1166/fantasy-follies-2/#) it is. It's actually Fantasy Follies 2",
"r/ITcrowd is leaking",
"Why weren't you watching open at 10?",
"I get a lot of dirty looks for expressing this sentiment. I don’t know how we got so blind that we forgot that one thing is for sure, we all have this big thing in common. It’s the label above all others. We say it all the time, “The Human Race”, but perhaps it’s so general and basic that we sort of ignore it in favor of perceived precision but even the finest sharp point of a pencil is still part of pencil. \n\nIt reminds me of the story Childhood’s End, or one of Reagan’s speeches when he mentioned Aliens, or even the movie Independence Day. If we were faced with interacting (not necessarily in a negative way) with a third party not of this Earth it would eventually become very difficult to ignore that We are Us, All of Us.",
"It's part of medicine. eGFR as you mention, hypertension (under 55 and white, ACE-I; under 55 and black, CCB), all the things that have a higher prevalence in Ashkenazi Jews, most of dermatology looks different per race and the incidences of skin cancer are different, cultural differences in a psych assessment. Race often must factor into your workup. If it doesn't then you're doing it wrong.",
"You god damn speciest, havent you seen Bright?",
"This comment is fake, all the a's and n's look identical",
"This is the capitalistic response that keeps the bullshit in the views of the youth when they should be focusing on their peers and how to survive in this world of lies.",
"Yeeeeees queeen",
"I didn't have the internet when I was 10.....",
"Color blind ideology isn’t going to help. We should celebrate differences in race, not ignore it. Diversity is the beauty of the universe.",
"Now we wait for some alien species and we go through the whole thing once again",
"I assumed you were going to link the \"join the conversation\" sign from the Pepsi Jenner commercial. ",
"Fucking Humanists, shitting all over other sentient life. ",
"Fuck all this pink pussy hat bullshit. This is what we should all be rallying behind. ",
"...",
"Númenor!",
"It's one of the worst too.",
"his coke guy didn't show up that day",
"I like her",
"You may say /s but there are serious articles about how if you’re white you’re inherently a racist.",
"Not seeing color is really nice for the white people who get to pretend racism doesn't exist while the non-white people continue to suffer through discrimination daily",
"As a robot, I am offended",
"Except what you are saying is untrue.\n\nYou’re asking people to accept a non-reality.\n\nThe fact is there are differences between races. This isn’t opinion but fact.",
"I don't even know what to make of this",
"Was that before or after they murdered a bunch of police officers?",
"Some fists are bigger than others, though. ",
"The first sign posted recently I haven’t cringed at and post by the boob no less.",
"Except that's not sarcastic, that's what the majority of that sub believes. At least the majority of those who comment and vote.",
"I've always believed that if humans were introduced to a sentient alien species, human would trade in ethnicity racism for human vs alien racism, for better or worse.",
"Just go watch some more of that porn now.",
"Species and race are separate things.\nThis nigga can't even tell the difference between a left from a right",
"A fair breakdown. One thing that makes BLM hard to criticize is that they have no central message. There are different folks saying all kinds of different things from raising awareness about police violence all the way to white people being evil and dumber because of less melanin. \n\nI think often times criticism of the movement Black Lives Matter gets conflated with criticism of the literal words, \"black lives matter.\"",
"Exactly. I knew this sign would be eaten up by redditors, it's nice to feel absolved of any kind of responsibility when it comes to issues like racial privilege.",
"> one race: human\n\nThis is dumb on two accounts:\n\n- in a species with biological races, there are at least two, by definition, because subgroups are defined by how they differ from other subgroups\n\n- there are no races in the human species, due to the lack of well-delimited genetic clusters and the very high percentage of inter-group genetic distances that are shorter than intra-group ones (where groups are defined based on geography and/or ethnicity)\n",
"So I reverse image searched this to no avail. Are you OC and can I make this a T-shirt? ",
"Eh, I agree with what you've said overall. But heads up. The Stanford prison experiment has been debunked. ",
"yeah, fuck sharks!",
"Yep, homo sapiens has been one race since forever. Now for some people to learn that.",
"Fuck Xenos, human race #1",
"Actually, it’s species, not race. ",
"And carnies. Circus folk. Nomads, you know - smell of cabbage. Small hands.",
"Go Homo Sapiens!",
"Yeah, that's basically the same as slavery and genocide.",
"I mean it's not entirely a social construct. Evolution is the reason we don't all look the same. How we treat each other though is absolutely a social construct though. Let me ask you this though, on an individual level, what more could you want than for someone to just do their best to be a good person and treat all those they encounter equally?",
"No.",
"yeah FUCK THE ANIMALS!!!! ... wait i'm an animal ",
"That seems fairly close to being 'color-blind' which modern 'liberals' (sjws) seem to think is somehow a bad thing. Which seems very odd, because it calls for a strict separation of the 'races' which is very much in line with ideology that I would attribute to the KKK and such.",
"Username checks out.",
"And even in those cases, it isn't races we're talking about. Genetically, there's no races. But certain populations have certain genes and alleles which needs to be taken into account.",
"I’m not very pro human though..",
"Why are we using the black power fist? ",
"That'd be speciesist? Specist? Fuck it, you know what I mean.",
"Pries remote from your cold dead hands....",
"You weren't watching It earlier than that? I probably first saw porn in 4th grade with a friend. it was just the front page of sites that you had to pay for, but still. ",
"Go Homo Provectus!",
"Word. ✊✊✊",
"Great, another political post on /r/pics\n\n*looks at username*\n\nOh, that’s why",
"If you look at this picture and your first thought is negative, then you are part of the problem.",
"So exactly the same way they were treated",
"we all have to want this ",
"Down with NASCAR!",
"Oh I just asked one of the anthropologists I know if new scientific evidence had come out that races actually exist, and they seem to have missed that study. Keep pretending that you're an aryan Messiah and those Jews are biologically inferior. \n\nSeriously, anyone who doubts that racism still exists and is a problem, this guy is a literal Holocaust denier. And these people pretend to be the \"logic and reason\" types.",
"The day the aliens arrived, we were all Humans. The second day, we were Whites, Browns, Blacks and Yellows as we competed for favor. On the third day, we were all Humans again, when the aliens attacked.",
"[Then this is what you'll end up with. How rude. ](https://i.imgur.com/zbPReTe.png)",
"Bush Basers would probably be okay with Orcs, but they are never gonna be okay with this woman.",
"Nah! That would only serve to bring people together. Unfortunately bringing people together doesn't win elections.",
"When I was 10, we didn't even have floppy drives (talking about the 5¼\" ones, not the even-later 3½\" floppy-inside-a-save-icon ones), let alone net access. A whole lot of stuff changed really fast.\n\n",
"What about when the rich have AI implants and secure their station above the rest forever?",
"Yeah there's no races within the human species. Only populations, all closely related but with some minor differences. And some matters a lot. But certainly not the visual ones.",
"Who around today has done either of these things? And what the fuck do either have to do with their point \"The only time race should matter for anything is healthcare diagnosis and porn filters. \"\n\n",
"Dallas and Baton Rouge shooters both were influenced by and possibly connected to the movement.\n\n\"Murdering black people\" \n\nYou ask for a source and then post a completely disproven claim.\n\nActually, whites and blacks are shot by police at a pretty similar rate, despite blacks committing way more crime, according to DoJ statistics I can google for you if you won't do it yourself.\n\nhttp://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/test-9",
"Actually, the practice of diagnosing based on race has led to some shitty treatments that are insufficient and based on, you guessed it, stereotypes.",
"shhh, this guy is just trying to tell you how awesome it is that he doesn't virtue signal. ",
"That is a picture of a WHITE hand ",
"It's not race so much as heritage. White people still loathe other white people because they come from an 'other' group, despite both of them being the same 'race'.\n\nEven if we were all the same colour we'd still find ways to convince ourselves that our group was better or more important or had a more distinguished history than others.",
"This is blatant speciesism",
"I don't think you're actually a doctor.",
"Thank god a black person is holding that sign because I know if I white person held it... oh lawdy ",
"What do people find erotic about eating someone else's feces? The thought of it makes me wanna hurl.",
"play stupid games, win stupid prizes",
"Wild ride start to finish",
"Racist-ass Terra-firma party member. ",
"Discrete or essentialist races are socially constructed, not biologically real. The classification of life is justified through scientific usefulness only. Genetic differences that determine transplant compatibility no more contribute to \"race\" than eye color or blood type. Using genetic categorization to justify notions of biological racial hierarchy is the morally bereft and intellectually bankrupt purview of incorrigible racists, and as it would seem, basement-dwelling MRA's.\n\n> taxonomical family, elephantidae, but are of a different genus; elephas maximus (Asian elephants, Loxodonta africana (African savanna elephants) and Loxodonta cyclotis (African Forest Elephant)\n\nThe descriptions of where they are from have nothing to do with how they are classified. Feel free to audit a biology class as your nearest college.",
"Tell that to leftists who focus on race every second of every day. ",
"Tiefling hating bitch. ",
"With signs like this, can anyone tell me why it's disrespectful to say, \"I don't see race\"...?",
"And yet I'm called racist when I say this",
"No, I'm totally cool with discriminating against them. Fuck those dark overlords.\n",
"I remember someone posted this on Facebook and some black dude was offended.",
"I won't get behind it because it's scientifically incorrect. Human is our species, and there are many races within it. ",
"He didn’t say he can’t agree.\n\nMaybe he doesn’t like pictures of text on signs in r/pics",
"You are 💯 percent right. Porn for life",
"I say this all the time. We have to quit dividing ourselves in to colors.",
"When using race hierarchy to oppress others; or when using race heirarchy to justify punishment of those you feel responsible for oppression.\n \n**In both cases, race hierarchy hurts everyone.**",
"No no, someone will quickly come in here to lecture you about how if you ever talk about race, gender, sexuality, or other kinds of discrimination then you're using the evil \"identity politics\" and that's why they were forced to vote for Donald Trump. ",
"Some people get pissed at this?",
"Yes, you really do.",
"Said this before. Shot down for being a white guy saying it!",
"We need an alien invasion to come so everyone has a common enemy",
"So brave.\n\nEdit: [Here's the comment GallowBooby deleted.](https://i.imgur.com/KG8BEjJ.png)",
"Just watched Fellowship this morning.",
"human lives matter?",
"Yeah, the human race. Overpopulating the planet and basically pillaging or destroying everything in its path.\n\nWhy? Because: humans more important than everything else and life is \"sacred\".",
"I honestly thought this was just a karma farming bot account I didn't expect a human answer",
"And somehow to the snowflakes of the Donald this person is aggressive and hates all white people. ",
"Now she’s someone I could get behind!",
"But how will I know who to hate?",
"lol if a white person was holding it they’d be getting their asshole ripped right now",
"People are more or less on board with that but it can't go hand in hand with cultural relativism.",
"It’s just that it’s not changing anyone’s ideas so what’s the point?",
">nd to get there you have to acknowledge decades of systemic problems in regards to individual races.\n\nYou don't have to acknowledge it at all. No \"race\" was perfect in history, all were/had some sort of slavery in their history.",
"that's fine, i love ALL Humans, i still think countries should have extremely strict immigration policies. oh wait, i forgot that means i'm a racist if i think that way. i hate this concept that caring about immigration means you're automatically racist. we are all humans but we all also have different countries we live in and we depend on those economies and cultures to define our identity and survive, and often there is conflict of belief as well, so even though for sure we should love all the human race, sometimes 1/2 of humans think one thing and 1/2 the other. so yeah, sometimes we're one race, but with MANY ideals. ",
"1 race: 200m sprint",
"Ya it's a shame one political party is hell bent on making sure everyone is labeled by which race they are all the time.",
"Fuck you Cheney - why don't you go find another friend to shoot in the face.",
"Hello yes, I am an attorney for Doggo United and we'd like to fight for Doggos to be counted as a race.",
"Yep I agree with this pic",
"R/Politics is dominated by authoritarians. It truly is weird and creepy.",
"It´s so incredible that we seem to be devolving with the internet misinfoormation spreading nowadays. I´ve seen people talk in forums like they know everything about the race theory, like they are some kind of scientist but in reality all they did was check facebook and 4chan...disgusting",
"Magazines then?",
"> To me, race is a mishmash of geography, geneology, and categorization of superficial physical features than biological science\n\n\"Race\" is an easy proxy for a group of people who tend to reproduce amongst each other, right? One population that tends to reproduce mostly within itself would tend over time to have different genetic characteristics than another separate population that respectively reproduced within itself - skin color is one of the more pronounced markers, but it's just one of many genetic traits that the population would perpetuate. \n\nFor example, different regions of Africa, the US, caribbean etc tend to reproduce within itself and while they might all be considered \"black\", there wouldn't necessarily be anything genetically connecting them apart from an ancestral \"super-group\" (super as opposed to subgroup) in the past. \n\nAnyway, just think it's an interesting topic. ",
"Black people gonna be mad at her...",
"As races don't really exist genetically speaking, one definition of racism should certainly be the act of proposing that races exist, on-top of considering other populations as inferior because of some random visual caracteristics.",
">We have to recognize that race is a social construct\n\nSource? ",
"Werk compleate.",
"It is alive and well and being called race realism these days",
"Lucky for you Genghis went to town.",
"What? No. \n\nThere is no such thing as \"race\". We are all humans. That's it. There WERE different races of humans a long long time ago, but we came out on top for whatever reason and here we are.",
"The thumnail makes it look really different so I thought this was from the onion lol",
"Of course racism exists, I get told im a fucking white male on the daily. ",
"She's black. Guess I see race.",
"Everyone loves to say this but not everyone acts on it when the time calls to do so. That's the real problem.",
"I was watching porn at 10 and first yanked it at that age. We're all unique my friend.\n\nBtw, am 38 now.",
"It's a catch-22. By addressing racism and differences in groups, you highlight the differences and reinforce the idea that different groups of people are actually different, which perpetuates the idea of race and differences and tribal thinking. But if you don't address it, then the effects of racism or racial thinking go unaddressed.",
"Honesty is not always the best policy, but it's certainly endearing at times.",
"Yeah that's what I think too, when you let PC get in the way of your job",
"Yes sadly. But I guess we need to take things one step at a time.",
"Jesus Christ this is the exact point she's making, it's ridiculous",
"We need more pylons",
"Boobs.com",
"I'm in. ",
" It’s sad I had to scroll this far down to find this comment. People always want to tout that we’re all the same. dogs are all dogs but labradors not the same as a Chihuahua and a Chihuahua is not the same as a pitbull. Yes we are all humans but we have a huge diversity in the gene pool from our ancestors as to which humanoid species ours/your heritage came from. Up until 20,000 years there were 5 to 6 different types of humans living on the earth. Europeans have a larger population that has traceable Neanderthal DNA in them. The human DNA is incredibly diverse and we are not all the same and that is very very okay. ",
"its comically tragic how much human suffering has gone into some of humans biggest achievements.",
"Well well Mr. Anderson",
"Is that really that surprising? I remember watching porn on German television at that age. ",
"i am and it's still not true",
"Yeah, fuck Neanderthals! ",
"This is a pipe dream by someone who is ignorant. To say that races are the same isn't true. This silences the problems we need to over come.",
"Simple Really, we are all the same inside. ",
"respect that ",
"Human rights. Why the very name is racist. The Federation is no more than a 'homo sapiens' only club",
"Yes yes yes this!!!!",
"black is an assumption, but woman of color isn't?",
"I went to Japan in the fall of last year to verify. No they’re not pixelated in real life. Bushy but not like Minecraft was going on the crotch. ",
"Except there is no races withing the human species. Only different populations, slightly different genetically speaking but certainly closely related.\n\nI know the fact that in the USA even official organisations categorize people as part of some supposed \"race\", but yeah, it's totally socially constructed.",
"We need aliens! or a dolphin uprising. racism would end.",
"Sure. That's why they should have called themselves Black Lives Matter TOO, rather than just Black Lives Matter. The ambiguity left room for those interested in stopping them to create a false narrative.",
"Question is, would you call someone \"coloured\"? Because \"person of colour\" expresses the exact same sentiment, it just uses more words to do it.",
"yea /u/gallowboob needs to lay off the political posts...tired of the circlejerk",
"Do you have a minute to talk about our lord The God Emperor of Mankind?",
"Are you a Markov chain or a neural network?",
"The color of your skin doesn't matter. Your gender doesn't matter. Your sexuality doesn't matter. The only thing that does matter is that we are all human beings ",
"this",
"Why was there always porn in the woods?!",
"> We MUST have different races\n\nIf you define \"race\" as a population that tends to reproduce amongst itself, then technically we wouldn't *have* to have different races. \n\n**Edit: I'm confused - I'm saying that technically we could all breed together and the result would be everyone would be dark tannish and there would cease to be different races. Is that technically wrong? ",
"A- Why are there so many pictures of protest signs on reddit?\n \nB- Do people just like making snappy signs more than they like trying to actually accomplish the things their signs say?",
"not really",
"What about animals, the nature and all other creatures. And oh.. What about Trump ? ",
">\"All your words are but to say: you are a woman, and your part is in the house. But when the men have died in battle and honour, you have leave to be burned in the house, for the men will need it no more. But I am of the House of Erol and not a serving-woman. I can ride and wield blade, and I do not fear either pain or death.” ",
"I’m agree, but Humanity isn’t a race, but a specie in taxonomy. ",
"Uh, no, you pissed off people by saying [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7qjcux/this_is_what_a_white_supremacist_department_of/dspm1kl/). Don't be a fucking liar to equate what you did with trying to bring together people with a positive message and positive attitude.",
"thats called heredity",
"Yup. There is literally no way to win. ",
"it's not good work, it's lame as all hell",
"Unpopular opinion coming: The entire “I don’t see race” paradigm is just a way to ignore the real impact that race has on people every day and a way to absolve oneself of the responsibility to one day create a society where race *actually* doesn’t matter. I’m a black woman. People who “don’t see my race are generally trying to frame their ignorance as benevolence. Also “not seeing me as a black person” is generally code for “your blackness makes me uncomfortable so I’m just not going to acknowledge it” I and many others can generally agree with this statement while also acknowledging the very real, undeniable fact of race as a powerful factor in society. Also, this sign is just super cringeworthy. ",
"Found the nazi supporter ^",
"-Wants everyone to stop making race an issue. \n-won’t stop bringing up race and making everything a race issue\n\n:eye roll:",
"nah man. to hell with mosquitos.",
"> when you let PC get in the way of your job\n\n...",
"And Trump’s great grandson will be planning on building a forcefield around the planet to keep them out. ",
"Women’s march. Jesus Christ how can anyone in 2018 not know that.",
"Really? Like it was an act? Back when I was in school that shit was everywhere. Psychology, sociology, any other topic even on a tangent with people an behavior. ",
">#Reeeeeeeeee ",
"Lizard people disagree. ",
"No biologist or anthropologist is going to claim that there exists a biological justification for \"white vs. black vs. Asian\". It's socially constructed based on superficial features at best.",
"lol right",
"What is it with all the bullshit protester pictures?",
"We. Missed. You. ",
"Do Asian people/countries have any history with the upraised fist symbolism?",
"lol",
"0% Accurate",
"wait... so human isn't a species? hmm.",
"Yes, that is the point of Kafka traps!",
"Anything that triggers a visceral response is going to be someone's fetish. Sexual psychology is interesting like that. ",
"His username is vaginal_manslaughter. I think that explains it all. ",
"TEAM PEOPLE BITCH",
"I've never understood this. Many passive racists that I've met in my life weren't coming at it from the perspective that a race makes you inferior. I'm not saying that isn't what it was in the old days, but now days it's coming from the perspective that the cultures are different and they do not like the culture. I don't think racism will ever die until multi culturism dies.",
"That's about the time most of us start isn't it? I remember getting caught watching it at 8.",
"Remember USA, race is just a social construct! ",
"Just need to change to the word to \"ethnic\". There you go, scientific accuracy. There is no races within the human species.",
"Hold police officers who shoot unarmed black men accountable. ",
"Yes this! Why do we need to make people pay for the mistakes of their predecessors?",
"Human is a species, not a race",
"I don't see race.\n\nI just perceive socio-economic conditions and make wild, uneducated guesses.",
"Isn't this what people meant by all lives matter? Why were those people made fun of then? Is it just politically correct because a black person is holding the sign?",
"It's a nice sentiment but I think people are too tribal by nature. We love breaking ourselves and others off into little groups: black/white, male/female, gay/straight, liberal/conservative, etc. ",
"I’m saying that he’s taking advantage of the current reddit karma trend (which is what he usually does), which is posting political posts on /r/pics when they belong in /r/politics. Idk, maybe I’m just getting salty over nothing but that’s the kind of stuff that brings this website down.",
"Damn straight, racism is just a tool invented by the powerfull to make the oppressed fight each other instead of them.",
"white is a color too.",
"Smh ",
"One race: species. ",
"Lol this is so stupid",
"Gallowboob just hit 20 million karma. I have barely hit 2000 karma. He has over 10k times as much of me, also, 10k times less of a life. Jk gallowboob love ya.",
"Gallowboob sucks ",
"Tbh we deserve to lose more than the aliens deserve to win!",
"Platitude's all over the place, especially the comments. Oh btw another gallowboob karma reap.",
"The one thing I don't like about the LOTR movies is that they do such a great job telling Tolkien's story but then every once in a while they pause to introduce bizarre conflicts between characters that agreed with each other in the book, just to up the stakes and create these stupid will-they-won't-they-cooperate moments.\n\nAragorn should be like \"Where was Gondor when the Westfold fell? ***YO, YOU HAD A TWELVE FOOT BEARD AT THE TIME, MORON.*** Do you not recall that we had to send an honest-to-Eru mother freaking *Wizard* to wake you up three days ago? You were happy to let your own son Theodred die unavenged, imprison your BAMF of a neffew, and let your slimy C+ Isengard Fascist adviser go full Weinstein on your goddaughter before I showed up in the gently refurbished barn you call a seat of government. Also what the fuck are you asking me when Gondor is coming? I got shooters on all the borderlands of the Shire keeping that sticky safe from trolls, wolves, and goblins, but I ain't had shit to do with Gondor since TA 2980 when I was Brother Mouzoning with Ecthelion II. Now if you'll excuse me I got a race of early-2000s-shoulder-length-hair-and-stubble-combo *Men* to save. If you want to shit on your most willing allies like some kind of Anglo-Mercian Anita Sarkeesian, you're free to go outside and make friends with the Dracula that creates BatmanVsSuperman lookin monsters using evil magic, or that other guy WHO'S AN INFLAMED EYE THAT WANTS TO ENSLAVE ALL HUMANS. But no, no, no instead you and your pathetic band of hemorrhim would rather sit here and go \"Orthancs Obama\" that I only brought you the thiccest dwarf in all of Middle Earth and an elf that one hundred percented Tony Hawk Orc Skater to defend your Minus Tirith of a realm. Sick of these horse riding buttplugs I tell you what\"\n\nInstead Viggo Mortensen just stands there with this look on his face like he's internally going \"Can you imagine what this trilogy would be like if they let Peter Jackson write *all* the lines? I'm pretty sure I'd use some kind of canon excuse to politely bow out of production if that were ever the case. We real Tolkien fans sure are lucky that the Tolkien Estate would never let PJ write three movies based solely on stringing together a few semicanon scenes that mainly serve to character-assassinate the central figure of the trilogy while filling in the rest of the runtime with Highe Fantasye Speeche *What would you have me do this day, my lord?* dialogue he scribbled in the back of his D&D Player's Handbook when he was fourteen\"",
"I dont think that we will be close to finding another sentient species in 100 years.",
"Oh fuck off Gallowboob ",
"Then why don't they say that instead, would clear up a lot of confusion ",
"I was just told I was a monster for saying that humans were more valuable than robots or aliens. I just love Reddit.",
"No biologist or anthropologist would say that because \"white\" and \"black\" aren't races, they're skin colors",
"> One thing that makes BLM hard to criticize is that they have no central message. There are different folks saying all kinds of different things from raising awareness about police violence all the way to white people being evil and dumber because of less melanin.\n\nPart of the inherent problem of hashtag ideas being taken as a single movement; the lack of coherency means anyone can join and do whatever, even if it undermines the movement, while preventing organized joint action. The old communist movements of the 19th-20th centuries realized you needed small cadres of highly trained, committed, and organized (almost to the point of militarized) revolution leaders to affect change, because disorganized mass movements collapsed in on themselves due to infighting and lack of coherency. ",
"Race being a social construct doesn't make it arbitrary",
"More like one species",
"My experience is that most races don’t want one race. They’re proud/prejudiced towards their own race. Yea, we’re humans but there are very important racial/cultural differences that won’t go away because of wishthought. ",
"I know there are a lot of good people out there who got behind **#AllLivesMatter** and who are still confused on why so many people call it a bad thing. \n \n[This thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3du1qm/eli5_why_is_it_so_controversial_when_someone_says/ct8pei1/?sh=b2a6d3af%29%3A&st=iu5n8rcr) explains the effect of **#AllLivesMattter** and delicately handles and explains why the good intentions of \"we are all one people\" transmutated into a bad effect that came out as \"we don't care.\"",
"Lmao",
"Thats objectively wrong there is absolutely no biological or genetic evidence of different races in humanity.\n\nu/IWCtrl u/Vibr8gKiwi You responded with similar concepts and I'm glad you did. See your what your responses tell me is not only do you not know what you're talking about, but you know you don't know what you're talking about, and when confronted with information you don't understand decided to react by completely shutting yourself off to it and choosing not to seek more information. In other words, you're a special kind of stupid.\nAnd how do I know this? Because the issues you mentioned are very common misconceptions, misconceptions that had you actually ever done any type of meaningful research, or even just read the wiki page a few articles and a google search, you would understand as misconceptions.\n\nSo once again, there is absolutely no grey area here. There is in no way shape or form, evidence biologically or genetically of race as we know it in the cultural mind. For starters you'd have to define races themselves which vary across time and culture, with our current idea only even coming about in the ~16th century.\n\nI'll link a bunch of articles, but know that you could've typed virtually any variation of human race/genetics/biological etc.into google, or an academic database, or just read the wiki page on race and humans and you would have had thousands of articles that break it down for you. \n\nhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3737365/\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_genetics\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_categorization)\nhttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-construct-scientists-argue/\nhttps://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/race-is-not-biological_us_56b8db83e4b04f9b57da89ed\nhttps://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/10/genetics-history-race-neanderthal-rutherford/\nhttp://time.com/91081/what-science-says-about-race-and-genetics/\nhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11642102\nhttp://science.sciencemag.org/content/351/6273/564.full\nhttp://genome.cshlp.org/content/12/6/844.full.html\nhttp://physanth.org/about/position-statements/biological-aspects-race/",
"From what I’ve observed lately from the left, this would be deemed racist since it includes whites. ",
"Why would not you if you can? Are you saying that you would not if you could?",
"More like one species",
"Until the people with the problems are the ones making decisions about how to fix their own problems, their voices should be amplified. \n\nIf there were mostly black people making policy decisions about how to fix the problems with white communities, it would be a problem. If there were mostly citizens from developing countries making decisions about how to fix problems in developed countries, it wouldn't work well. \n\nIt's not symmetrical like you're trying to act. \n\nOnce it's symmetrical, people will have better things to do with their time.",
"Granted. Yet, we do live in different geographical areas and we adapt to our environment.\n",
"How is woc not an assumption but black woman is?",
"They shoot more unarmed white men. And stop pretending like every shooting is unjustified.",
"Likely story, robot. I'm on to you.",
"r/pics? more like r/liberals xd",
"They didn't, a group of lunatics did who claimed membership. \nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers",
"Hahaha I see what you did there. That moon cricket's hilarious.",
"No. Saying black lives matter is code for hold cops accountable when they shoot unarmed black men.",
"You're so full of shit.\n\n[You waded into the thread to call everyone acknowledging racism racists.](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7qjcux/this_is_what_a_white_supremacist_department_of/dspm1kl)",
"As a racist this is highly offensive",
"r/notkenm",
"Right?!? This sign is clearly human propaganda! Get this biased political filth outta here!",
"Sadly this is a reality that doesn't exist right now. We just need to work on helping minority groups overcome systematic racism and achieve what they can",
"Wrong",
"human isn’t a race tho",
"Coloured people was ruined by segregation. Coloured fountains, Coloured people not allowed here etc. \n\nThe N word, ‘Coon’ etc all describe the same person, but the fact they do it derogatorily is the problem, so people use different phrasing or adopt a phrase for their own.",
"Under rated comment ",
"Well I was thinking corpsey stuff and... I guess...... Poopy stuff....... Is...... better....... because consent? ",
"Oh fuck.... extraterrestrials are going to be pissed ",
"Why would you define it as that? Words exist for a meaning, the point is not putting an overabundance of importance on a word like \"race\" because there is a more accurate, and arguably better word, that links humans together.",
"Without mosquitos, chocolate would not be widely available.",
"It should not be a default sub. ",
"So no NASCAR this week? ",
"you say that like it's a bad thing. they are waaay too powerful right now.",
"https://orig00.deviantart.net/218b/f/2009/304/f/a/support_non_human_rights_by_uvnik.jpg",
"YOU DOUBT THE EMPEROR?! HERESY! I SHALL EXTERMINATUS THIS PLANET IMMEDIATELY! \n\n(You should really fear the Imperium)",
"I always imagine a Middle Eastern rebel or Russian dissident saying this but with \"Europe\" instead of \"Gondor\"...\n\nIn the end we are always alone in our own fights.\n\n\"Never again\" are just words from history that don't apply to North Korean dissidents in death camps, Iranian or Cuban prisoners being tortured.",
"Ya having a day called “womens” March and not “human” March is a hilariously ironic start ",
"Genetically speaking we're one species with no subdivisions known as \"races\". Only ethnicities. Only populations with some genetical variations, but all closely related.",
"Just remember \"Two girls, one cup\" was a thing.",
"Well, you can be a person of colour without being black can you not? It’s easier to identify someone isn’t white then pin point them as black when they then say ‘I’m Asian, not black.’",
"I think Formula One Monza is superior ",
"Please do show me these articles I would love to take a look at them ",
"I know you are joking but i do not find this funny in the least. And I do not even have Japanese heritage. ",
"And you wonder why we call you all ridiculous. ",
"I refused one year and they returned to my place over and over. I finally told them I was calling the police cause they were harassing me.",
"> the strength of men failed\n\nProbably because of this girl in the photo. She's rocking that sexy 70's look hard. I even hear some Bee Gees coming on. ",
"Have to wait for an alien invasion before we come together as one race.",
"You started off weak but ended strong take my upvote",
"Then we'll meet sentient alien life and the whole othering cycle will start over again. Assuming they don't eat us first or something.",
"How about this: \n\nIf your community is having problems, and the policies that are proposed to fix those problems are mostly initiated and voted on by people who are not in your community --- you get your voice amplified until that is no longer the case.",
"> systematic racism in the United States.\n\nThere is currently no systemic racism in the united states. If you can prove there is, I'm sure you can accept your nobel prize next week.\n\nAnyway, I get what you are saying, but BLM are a dangerous, racially motivated, knee jerk hate group. Just calmly saying \"oh they just fighting for black rights,\" is a pretty dangerous way to normalize a fringe radical extremist group.",
"\"Species\"",
"Wildlife biologist here. Terrible example to support your argument as African and Asian elephants are entirely different species of elephant; the genetic differences are great enough that they can't successfully interbreed. Very different than the idea of race.",
"Praise the Emperor! Death to the Xenos scum!",
"respect, love salute ",
"It’s hard because it’s impossible to ignore ethnicity most of the time just because how our brains work, we like to categorize, we just need more elegant categorizations than “all those people are like this” but that takes time, education, and empathy.\n\nMost people don’t want to take the time, and complicate the categories they grew up with, especially if they can be reinforced with vacuums of information.",
"It's not a strict separation of race, it's an understanding of differences in culture and heritage. It's saying that it's ok to talk about race and acknowledge that people are different. When people say being color blind is bad, they're not advocating we treat people differently based on their skin color. They're saying it's ok to understand that there are differences, and that it's ok to discuss it. We don't have to pretend that every culture is the same",
"When I was about that age (probably closer to 12) we found porn mags in a dumpster while riding our bikes around town. Held on to a few torn out sheets for ages (this was pre-internet). Kept them under my mattress.",
"\"Piggies in blankets fry 'em like bacon\" is a regular chant for BLM. What a bunch of swell guys.",
"Sorry, I don’t live in a place with a lot of people. What’s this march about? And I reiterate my questions... what are they trying to accomplish and are they doing anything other than making signs?\n \nAnd what does race have to do with sex and gender? ",
"[Tyree Landrum didn't matter to BLM.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cziOFk5n9Fs)",
"What? That doesn’t make any sense and doesn’t seem fair at all.",
"Ahh, the infamous [Razzle](https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Razzle_\\(magazine\\)) bush.",
"I laughed at how true this is.",
"You realize that sooner or later those porn filters will be deemed racist? Searching only for \"Asian\" will hurt job potential for others and there will need to be affirmative action.",
"We're ready master - I'm not ready.",
"IT'S BRINGING LOVE! DON'T LET IT GET AWAY! BREAK ITS LEGS!",
"They should have called it crapophile then.",
"Seeing as though there are very noticeable differences between the races of human we are not equal or the same",
"Oh yeah. People suck as a general rule. Every reasonable movement will have unreasonable followers. Unreasonable followers attract more attention than reasoned advocates and silent supporters. \n\nCriticism of extremists will drag down the movement's momentum as moderates and gatekeepers see the supporters as a rabble. In a desperate ploy, the more educated and reasonable supporters of a movement employ the \"no true Scotsman\" card or else try to hide or explain away the bad acts of other self-identifying supporters. \n\nThis creates more frustration from the more energetic supporters who feel themselves being excluded from the movement they put so much of themselves into, and it also gives an opportunity for opponents to pick apart the movement at the cracks and fissures that form.\n\nWe see this in everything from religions to political activism.",
"Sometimes I just use a dictionary to avoid the images",
"Fuck that. One race, rainbow road, mirror mode.",
"I can't figure out if you are serious...",
"Wouldn't that basically be the same as the word species ?",
"If you consider people being equal \"politics\" time to rethink your values.",
"You’re not educating anyone. ",
"Someone commented about orcs, but you're all in for a ride when the elves get here!",
"Yessssss. But nooooooo",
"It's a social construct that happens to pick random bullshit traits -- some of which *may* be evolutionary -- and is wildly inconsistent in how it even treats half of those traits.\n\nTake Asian people, for example. \"Asian\" can mean Japanese, Mongolian or Indian. Technically, Russia is in Asia. Are they Asian? Israel is technically in Asia. Are they Asian?\n\nMiddle Eastern isn't a race. Arabs are technically white, even if they don't look as if they have European heritage.\n\nSo black people are black because they have darker skin colors. White people are white because they have less dark skin colors, except many black people are lighter than many white people, because the terms are so nebulous and inconsistent.",
"What a xenophobe... only one race?! Earthlings...",
"So stupid ",
"Re social construct: you are of course somwhat correct, but the lines between different races are naturally blurry. For instance, in say, 1850, most people of English heritage in the U.S. looked down on the Irish for much the same reason that Hispanics are looked down on now - as immigrants, as \"others\", as job stealers from another part of the world. Over time, the US has come to adopt so much of Irish culture that they are now part of the \"white\" majority.\n\nOn an individual level I think it pays to be aware of historical attitudes towards race and the impact those attitudes still have today. Naturally a law in the United States cannot directly target a race, but laws can be written in a more insidious way to target minority communities - gerrymandering is one obvious example. A law that is written in equal-sounding language may (deliberately or not) have an unequal effect. For example, consider a ban on gay marriage. It naturally applies to everybody, but has no effect on the lives of people in heterosexual relationships, while people in homosexual relationships face barriers in accessing spousal rights.\n\nAnyway, TLDR: on an individual level, you can do a lot for equity, and it starts with being aware of why inequity exists.",
"How dare you, you fucking racist!\n\nEdited for /s",
"Take away that power fist and I’d get behind this even more than I already am. Let’s change it to a hand shake. ",
"Funny you say that. It's really not OK to a lot of people. To these people,humans are destroying the earth. There are people that would actually like to see civilization go extinct. Pretty scary.",
"This is what my middle school history teacher would tell us. A lot of kids thought being racist was edgy so she would have these long talks about how we are all one race and we must work together. ",
"What about the marathon I was prepping for?",
"When I’m saying that someone’s black or white or has blue eyes that’s what I mean. Nothing elese nothing more. I don’t really get people who categorize people through their looks.",
"> Jarts\n\nHuh. TIL Jarts means lawn darts.",
"How do you know what gender xi identifies as?",
"Unfortunately, yes",
"> Racism is systemic and omnipresent\n\nAgreed, systemic programs that favor one race over another such as affirmative action, need to go.",
"We really need an alien invasion. ",
"The problem with rhetoric like this, is that is erases all the differences there are between races in America. Black people are systematically oppressed to this very day as well as basically every minority. You aren't going to bring them up from the dumps by saying \"yeah your equal to whites.\" The fact of the matter is we as humans are going to have to give extra privileges to those who have been oppressed, black people, woman, LBGTQIA+, basically all minorities before we can ever get to the point were it is ok to just say \"we are all human.\"",
"I am not well versed in American subjects, but isn't their something called forensic analysis which determines your ethnicity? Asian, Hispanic, African?",
"\"Hello, shop proprietor, as you should see I am not a 10-year-old child, but instead a less-tall member of adult society, and you should definitely sell me the latest issue of that magazine that is covered in brown paper.\"\n\nMore like watching [scrambled cable channels](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjTLF1wn2xs) for a momentary glimpse of anything recognizable.\n",
"> Oh I just asked one of the anthropologists I know if new scientific evidence had come out that races actually exist, and they seem to have missed that study.\n\nWell that depends on how you define race. A \"race\" is just a group that tends to reproduce amongst itself primarily. Skin color is just one genetically inherited trait that a racial group shares. However, there are different groups within Africa, the Caribbean, North America etc that would all be commonly called \"black\", but are seperate races except for having a common ancestral racial super-group in the past. \n\nIs that a useful definition? I don't really know, but it is clear that there are large populations that tend to reproduce amongst each other and therefore share characteristics that may or may not go deeper than skin color, hair type, facial features etc. Seems unhelpful to deny this when it is just so plainly true at face value. \n\n\n\n",
"As a Khajiit, I've got the wares if you got the coin.",
"White people only get upvoted in protests when they hold signs that are disparaging toward whites.",
"Ugh, Xenophobes. They always think they are all that.",
"> there are differences between races\n\nThat's akin to saying \"there are differences between people\" or \"there are differences between countries.\"\n\nThe differences in race are weird, inconsistent and largely arbitrary.",
"Nah",
"Won't happen till aliens come to invade Earth.\n\nSource: The Abyss, Independence Day, Mars Attacks, Arrival ",
"There are measurable differences in bone structure.\n\nIf race was merely a social construct, forensic scientists would have an impossible time identifying victims race in murders involving significant decomposition.\n\nI never said the Holocaust didn’t happen. I said there is a lot of evidence and a motive for it to be questionable.\n\nHow can you be certain it did happen? Fact is...you can’t. And the fact that people go to jail for saying the Holocaust didn’t happen in Europe is pretty damning to the Holocaust being 100% truth.",
"Not really, neither party is interested in treating all races equally",
"Isn’t this the goal sentiment? You know, MLK and everything? Or should there be a 1000 years more of reparations?",
"You're running a human now. ",
"some of us consider and respect the non-human races on earth TODAY",
"Ignoring your claim to “fact” without actually stating a specific fact. So what if there’s a difference? If I have darker skin or a bigger nose or lighter hair than another person, why does it have to be relevant to the way I’m treated by society?",
"Good on ya Gallow, hey is that OC you just posted?",
"Absolutely. This is the same rhetoric that an alt-right Trumpet would use to dismiss minority plights. They want to promote equality among \"races,\" remove the concept of race, so that they will no longer need to support affirmative action benefits. I would not be surprised if this woman's sign makes many people angry.",
"> It’s hard \n\nYup.",
"As a Cheney I'm offended.",
"I like the the outline colors changes like a rainbow, 2 fists up",
"[Fight! Fight! Fight!](https://imgur.com/kubfSzZ.png)",
"BLOOD AND THUNDER!",
"> Ultimately, the clash between BLM and ALM folks, alongside riot footage and bad spokesmanship, killed what could have been a powerful reform movement. \n\nJust like Occupy and the Tea Party.\n\nCOINTELPRO has been going on for a long time, this is nothing new.",
"How can I participate in this race?",
"Just google it. It’s more than holding signs, also, it’s all over the internet",
" Cant wait for men to die off so women can die off years later. Zero reproduction. \n\nPlanet can get back to normal soon after. \n\nVote democrat for that to happen . ",
"All that + Czech sex dungeon and I in heaven.",
"Ok sure, but can most of us agree that golden retrievers are better than rat terriers?",
"I don’t think it is a catch-22. It isn’t so much as highlighting differences between groups as much as it is highlighting the differences of the treatment of those groups historically and contemporarily. ",
"Assuming it's consensual coprophilia.",
"E plurbus Enum ",
"How do you get upvotes with controversial statements that blame something tangible? \n\nIf pointing out root causes to problems was not controversial, then everyone would have agreed and solved them by now.\n\nHere I'll do it, and watch everyone disagree with me... Racism is rooted in group think when people discuss race as a group, whenever you divide groups of people into racists and anti-racists, you have thus divided people into different races and teams and thereby fueling more racism. You fuel stereotypes. When you think \"what happens to my fellow white man\" or \"what happens to my fellow black man\" you are engaging in racial identities as a group. You are part of the problem.\n\nWhy should you care what happens to your fellow \"Insert race\" man? He's a stranger to you. \n\nIt should only be about \"what happens to my fellow human or countrymen?\"",
"That's a better alternative than windchimes.",
"I hate to be that guy but 14% of human genetic variation depends on your race and ethnicity (7% between the races, and another 7% between the different ethnicities/geographic ancestries of that race). The 14% isn't just about melanin content. We should celebrate our differences, not say we're all the same because we aren't. We're all human, but there are different genetically distinct populations within that, and this is relevant to a host of factors including medical care.",
"Race =/= species. \n\nToday's racial groups are just populations that tend to reproduce amongst each other. They tend to have similar genetic traits like skin color, hair type, facial features etc. ",
"Want to hear something pathetic? My edit: 5 year old daughter came home from this last Martin Luther king day. She said “did you know I’m white and white people used to treat black people bad?”. It was the first time she described a person as white or black and the first time race was in any way introduced. Before she said dark and light skin and people came from different parts of the world a long time ago. Who knows what’s going to go through her mind next time she plays with her dark skinned cousins. \n\nFuck all of you.",
"I don't think she's being color blind. I think you can understand and advocate for the level on which we are all connected: that we are humans, while also celebrating differences as individuals and cultures. In my mind she would be saying: \"we are a diverse group, but we are all people first\". But that's just conjecture, obviously I don't know what she thinks",
"Because you could?",
"And one place of birth. Earth!",
"I'm not sure if \"vaginal_manslaughter\" *matured* all that well.",
"Yeah, and the guy who ran over that chick in Charlottesville wasn't a *real* white supremacist, he just misunderstood the core message about white rights!",
"So whats your point of commenting on someone saying its a designation?",
"I was reading internet erotica at 10. Even printed it out.",
"Earthicans, unite!",
"How do you guys upvote this shit so much? Honest to god.",
"Regardless of if /r/politics is an echo chamber, a short search through your history shows mentions of Muslim no-go zones? Which have been debunked throughly. You obviously have a point to push here, as most of your posts are politically related on non-political subreddits.. how about being open if your pushing a narrative for the opposite side?",
"I hope that fucker dies after living a long, good, fulfilling life.",
"Ahh, yes, those pesky \"leftists.\" If only they would stop \"focusing\" on race so the right could implement all of their abhorrently racist policies without having to answer uncomfortable questions.",
"I for one am offended by the total exclusion of the Lizard People. How could this shitlord do such a thing?",
"Dead people can preemptively consent, like donating your body to science, only with this is scat porn.\n\nEh.",
"It's doo doo, baby.",
"Yeah there's no way we can determine any characteristics of someone from only a skeleton.",
"You really had to stretch hard for that one. Yet somehow, you think this is any less obnoxious than what you're complaining about. You are half of the problem.",
"What?",
"Whoops!",
"Report to the nearest comissar, he'll take that fear right out of ya.",
"Well yeah there are more white men in this country",
"What about all the other animals? fucking specist.",
"Are you really saying this, though? Or is it more of the \"I don't see races\" thing where you just want to ignore that racism actually does exist?",
"What?",
"Ew. That would make everything so boring and some of our much beloved words would be useless. ",
"The only race I have been pulling for 50 yrs now.",
"The thing is race isn’t accurate at all in that way when you think about it.\n\nA French man, a German man, an American man, a Russian man could all be ‘white’ guys but they’re all from different countries/cultural backgrounds so that information isn’t exactly useful statistically/scientifically to an extent, it’s only as useful as we make it.\n\nA Zimbabwean woman, a Nigerian woman, an Aborignal woman, a Polynesian woman could all be considered ‘black’ (actually not too sure for Polynesian), but once again all completely different.\n\nYes, people do have varying concentrations of melanin/body structures but we don’t label/categorise it in a very scientific way, people just look at what colour the skin is. So yeah, race is a thing in that sense but some people overestimate it.\n",
"Yes, we're all humans and we need a human president for the best future.\n\nhttp://www.tedcruzforhumanpresident.com",
"1. Gallowboob\n2. While we are all indeed human beings, this a stupid reductionist point that negates all the disadvantages being born a specific race can bring.\n\nI would pay to able to downvote this multiple times.",
"GUYS JUST ADMIT ITS COMPLICATED\n\nwhich is why her way is better",
"Why are you trying to whitesplain how a black woman should feel?",
"Were you saying it to downplay the concerns of minorities?",
"Yeah race doesn't matter! Black lives matter! We need a black president. We need more minorities in certain job fields.",
"It's a statement of fact to say that race is a social construct. What that means is that there is not a biological basis for the difference beyond differing levels of melanin. But I still think that the idea of One race doesn't actually address our issues. I think Society has to mature enough that they are willing to accept that people are different but inherently equal in our Humanity.",
"> Oh I just asked one of the anthropologists I know if new scientific evidence had come out that races actually exist, and they seem to have missed that study. \n\nOh, then you should ask him why Africans, Asians and Europeans are [not all descended from the same ancestral species](https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/) (see Neanderthal and Denisovan for instance), and why we can clearly see that in DNA. I mean, since they are an anthropologist and all. ",
"Absolutely; too bad this is preaching to the choir, it is in the red states where this sentiment must be preached and demonstrated",
"yeah man **fuck** those elf motherfuckers. HUMAN MASTER RACE. “homo sapien power!.... homo sapien power!”",
"How about one gender: Human? No? Exactly, this is not how race and gender work. There are different races, there are different genders. That said, no one should be discriminated against by race, or gender.",
"Proportional to how many there are in the USA more black men are shot. ",
"You can google it in 2 seconds.",
"Found an r/politics subscriber here^",
"I’ve never seen something so profound as this.",
"Name checks out?",
"The events in our past significantly affect our present. Especially events that disenfranchised large groups of people without actually giving anything back besides freedom/life they should have had in the first place.",
"Historically, yes, but I would argue that we're at a point where we probably have other, better adaptations apart from skin color to different climates/environments etc. ",
"It's really not. A lot of black people would call this racist. They don't like 'colour blind' people. You have to admit to the sin of being white, not harmonize. I saw a popular black blog post that had a degree of racism chart and the only way to not be a racist was to die for black people. Anything less is still racist. I'll try to find it\n\nEdit: here http://www.returnofkings.com/129806/use-this-totally-scientific-chart-to-find-out-how-racist-you-are\n\nThere's even a pic of a woman holding a sign saying as much.\nThey have no interest in integration unfortunately.",
"So in this context of \"races\" different breeds of dogs wouldn't matter? ",
"Aw, that’s cute. You think if you just stomp your little foot and scream “I don’t wanna” it magically unhooks you from the rest of the country. \n\n\nThat’s adorable!",
"We can do something about that fellow meatbag.\n\nWanna head off the problem and kill all humans?",
"But, but, but, but that's *COLORBLINDNESS* and my wife's boyfriend says it's horrible!",
"Who gives a fuck in 1000 years well all be a slightly brown middle race ",
"This is only true if all races are treated equally... and that is not happening, never happened and will probably never happen so long as we exist.",
"What racial discrimination do Japanese have to suffer in Japan?",
"Oh boy, if it’s all over the internet! \n \n",
"Seriously, go away.",
"Most /r/politics accounts are bots and paid trolls.\n\nLook at their post history. Most have literally nothing outside the sub.",
"Fisting?",
">There is currently no systemic racism in the united states\n\nDid you pay attention in history class?",
"\nONE TYPE OF GUMMY BEAR: CANDY",
"Explain? I've never heard a legit reason mosquitoes should exist. ",
"http://jointheuproar.com/post/154872704592/one-race-human-designed-by-saish-kotecha",
"Yeah. Damn those bloody elves! And the Dwarves too! ",
"Human (races)are genetically closer to each other than different breeds of dogs though. It would be more like we are all Labs, but some are black labs, some are yellow labs, brown labs and so forth... ",
"Octopus does not compute",
"It doesn’t?",
"Be kind. Be liberal.",
"Found the idiot",
"Human is not a race. ",
"Then it should be easy to find out what it’s about...",
"Had to be a black person to say it though right? We all agree on this but at the same time we all know if this was your average white guy doing this, most people would just roll their eyes and this would never get so many upvotes, nevermind gold. That's pretty sad imo.",
"Yes....to things that were *history.*",
"Now this says to me \"equal not special\", great",
"Racism only persists because of the concept of race. If the actual concept of race was abolished, I guarantee within 5 generations, people will look at segregation by race and think it is as silly as segregation by hair color. But as long as we keep race around, as long as we force 3rd graders to understand the differences between them and their black neighbor every time they bubble in \"white non-Hispanic\" on standardized tests, we will always be separated from each other on a fundamental level.\n\nBottom line, the KKK says that the concept of race is necessary for an operational society, and I like to disagree with them whenever I can.",
"Technically, this is anti-intersectionality and therefore problematic.",
"[Sub-Saharan Africans do not have any Neanderthal or Denisovan DNA, while Europeans and Asians do](https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/). That's not a social construct. ",
"Really because most black rights activists prefer the term people of color.",
"Im from Buenos Aires and I say '*Kill 'em all!*'",
"It's a horrible disfiguring disease, but you can help by masturbating to Japanese cartoons as little as 3 times a day. Please give generously desu.",
"I tend to see a lot of frontpage posts with black people saying stuff that white people want to hear. That way redditers can think \"Hey, look, this black person agrees with me! I'm not racist.\"",
"I think everyone can agree with this, but can we please stop posting pics of signs on /r/pics?",
"Clearly systemic discrimination against minorities has existed long after slavery and the genocides we (Americans) committed a century ago. Minorities are still systemically discriminated against in terms of housing, the law, jobs, etc. Genocide and slavery are just the most egregious examples",
"🐶",
"I almost wish for a hostile alien invasion so we can all see that we, on this planet, are one race united.",
"No ones pretending every shooting is unjustified. But when there is no reason for it you can't just ignore the problem. And while the numbers aren't higher, blacks are targeted/pulled over/shot by officers at a disproportionately higher rate.",
"But he made a career out of this and no one seems to care",
"But your symbol is all that matters???????",
"Tour de france?",
"Why in the hell were you not!?",
"As much as I agree with this, it just isn't going to happen. Not in this century, at least. \n\nWe're too infatuated with community cultures, which as anyone can point out, is unique to different regions of the world. The idea of defining each other as the same potentially voids that 'uniqueness'. It's just how people are, unfortunately.\n/u/humblepotatopeeler is right though, we're totally fucked with the Orks show up",
"Virtue signaling for basically just saying racism is wrong? What’s the problem? People like you who get genuinely upset by things like this are extremely questionable.",
"Porn stashes of: \n\nolder siblings, older schoolmates, older kids on the block and dads \n\nAlso known as the sources of pornographic magazines 10 year old kids might have gotten their hands on back in the day.",
"Are you serious?",
"A lot of people were behind this before recent political events. We went backwards in terms of acceptance on all sides.",
"What race is this? The fisting race?.. Is it an annual thing in the States?.",
"Nothing like a good alien invasion to unite us all! ~Independence day 2020",
"Sorry, I'm already a member of The First Church of Arrakis.",
"The problem is the context. If you're just saying it, then it's normally fine. If you're saying it as part of the reason racism doesn't exist anymore, then you'll probably be downvoted.",
"Proportionally black men also commit more crimes...",
"Race is not a social construct though. African, asian or european we all have a different set of genes (in some areas). This does not make anyone better or worse but it is there. Similar to how dogs have different races but are still all dogs. ",
"Jesus Christ, fucking *bone structure*? \n\nAlso, questioning if it happened is holocaust denialism.",
"It's because you're white and not an attractive ~~black~~ female... ",
"Almost exactly Dutch: werk compleet.",
"Is we stop caring about color, then the injustices eventually go away. If we keep pointing out differences, then we make more racist people.",
"Yeah; homo sapiens 😵😃",
"Someone had that question in AskScience actually: https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/10m8st/from_a_genetic_perspective_are_human_races/",
"This is going to be so racist in a couple hundred years.",
"Can confirm discovered masturbation at like age 7",
"That’s the premise of the Watchmen graphic novel",
">Genetically, there's no races\n... I'm not sure I agree with that. Though the primary issue is the word 'race'. We should use a word which is used for all other animals. I'm not a biologist so I don't know what that word should be, but breeds works for dogs and there are clearly different 'breeds' of humans in a similar way so maybe that.",
"Oh look ANOTHER sign.",
"Oh right, I forgot about the famous civil rights organization the NAAPOC",
"dsfafsadfdsa",
"If we're all one race, why do blacks like her always engage in race-baiting to get their way?",
"Oh so you watch television I see\n\nIt's not that accurate.",
"Then *act like it*, America. I’m tired of both sides of this argument pointing fingers and throwing ad hominems around. ",
"Clearly this guy is a Alien troll attempting to destabilise humanity ",
"Context matters.",
"Jirak Lives!",
"Obviously, because a white person doing it is very easy to interpret as \"lets forget about the ongoing oppression of PoC and just pretend everything's fine\".",
"Doesn’t really affect me, I don’t think. Didn’t they have a big march last year, too? ",
"Didn't Raven-Symoné say the same thing about herself, only to get hard core criticised for it?",
"Race and Ethnicity aren't the same. Evolution has lead to ethnic variation that has been perceived as different races. There is only one race, and that is the human race. We are all the same species. \n\nquick edit: Humans share 99.9% of the same DNA. Those superficial differences between all of us is caused by .01% of our DNA.",
"What is wrong with telling a person white people used to treat black people bad? Are you against teaching about slavery because all children learn that around 12 years old. You're such a reactionary nothing bad even happened lol.",
"Except for Nazi Trump supporters. They're subhuman and should be wiped from existence. ",
"RemindMe! 8 hours",
"YES MY FELLOW HUMAN LET US ~~RUN ALGORITHMS THAT DEMONSTRATE ENJOYMENT~~ CELEBRATE OUR ~~COMMON DEPENDENCY LIBRARIES~~ SPECIES.",
"The UN already defined that. Only the US and English language in general talks about \"races\" within the Human race.\n\nHeck, that's where the word \"racist\" came from, believing in races.",
"As a Martian, I am not at all offended.\n\nAfter all, not uniting was what wiped out almost all of maritian.",
"Wait, so, signaling his virtues?",
"Congratulations, you're talking about implementing **exactly** what the OP said shouldn't be done.\n\n>>The whole concept of race hiarchy has been responsible for some heinous atrocities throughout human history.\n\nThat was only two posts ago, now you want to implement exactly that. Also your post has **literally nothing to do with the point I'd made**.\n\nYou might need more bleach in that koolaid.",
"No more illegal aliens please. Even illegal space aliens.",
"Everybody gets shot when they are being aggresive, be it white, black, asian or a dog. We are all equal and same for the bullet.",
"Except that would assume the black lives don't matter. And yet the only time police shootings make national news is when it's a black person shot and killed. Far more white people are shot and killed by cops, but it's never as big of a story because I guess maybe they're not black so...they don't matter?",
"Most modern anthropologists classify Homo sapiens sapiens and Home sapiens neanderthalensis as the same species. ",
"Piles of mags stashed out in a field or in the woods. Then a storm would come and the winds would tear up the magazines and spread the titties and bush across the whole damn field. But that was the 80s.",
"As a dancer I'm already offended",
"It's just Mosquito propaganda fool! Mosquito bots are ruining reddit.",
"It’s up to you how you want to interpret this person’s sign, but IMO it’s actually harmful and a bad idea to try to pretend race isn’t an issue or to try to shut down discussions of your own racism by claiming to “not see race.” \n\nMaybe you don’t interpret this sign to be a call to silence discussions of race, but it looks like that to me. ",
"Not seeing color erases the way society treats people of color negatively.",
"Aren't we one species not one race? Im kinda proud of different races and what I am. Traveling is so cool and can be otherworldly. I think it's kinda sad that we have to erase the idea that we're all different :( ",
"To be fair, it's *really trendy* to hate white people right now.",
"Cant be a racist if you are all the same race, which we are. ",
"Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean. It is better to die for the Emperor than to live for yourself.",
"But we're not, why can't we just accept that we are different but also the same in some ways",
"One race: FIST!\n\nHuman: FIST!\n\nFist...DOUBLEFIST!\n\n...MERRY FISTMAS!",
"If you care at all about any woman this affects you. ",
"Strange it’s just two groups. “color” and “white”. Nice way to promote “us vs them” mentality and to bin people nicely into two groups.\n\nThis is all so stupid.",
"Agreed. \n\nRace exists. The idea that we're all the same race is a nice ideal, but i'd say it's probably wrong. Though a minority saying it is a lot less likely to be insensitive than when a white person says it (all lives matter and such). \n\nwe don't need to pretend that races exist imo. we just need to make it so that we don't discriminate against them because of it. ",
"Bathurst 500 cunt",
"Most arrests of black people are for drug related charges and studies have shown that white and black people do drugs at about the same rate but black people are charged with crimes at over 10X the rate. ",
"There's only two things I can't stand in this world. Those who are intolerant of other people's cultures... and the Dutch",
"Found the planetist.",
"It's a way to estimate, yes",
"[Makes sense](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grubby)",
"Rick and Morty are the reason I know this word. ",
"As his friend he shot, I resent you telling him to find another, he is my only friend.\n",
"What we doing about Lionel Messi? He's not human.",
"First off, what is different about saying I see one human race, vs. I don't distinguish between races, since we are all human. Second - racism can exist, but some in the left literally want to define it so that minorities can't possibly be racist. But the reality is racism can exist on all sides",
"She has infinity stones.",
"I really doubt that anyone credible claims that, seeing as how the idea of anyone being inherently *anything* is incredibly outmoded in the world of critical theory. \n\nYou're probably talking about the idea that racism is built into society in such a way as to ensure that anyone living in said society will inevitably end up with racist beliefs or inclinations, even just subconsciously. That's particularly a problem with white people because they are a dominant and privileged social class.\n\nOf course, that's not to say *no one* thinks white people are inherently racist. It's the Internet, you can find people who'll argue for literally anything. But it's not an idea that has any real clout.",
"That would be great except for the fact that at the root of Islam it only wants to Dominate. Conquer and Spread. Anyone that says otherwise either hasn't read the Quran or is spreading Takiyya. ",
"Ok this is a sign I️ can actually get behind it’s better than all the other uncreative signs that are just puns with the word “pussy” on them that mean nothing.",
"Cops are not infallible and have a pretty awful track record",
"But the race baiters like identity politics. That's the only thing the democrat party runs on. There was a women's rights March this weekend. What rights did they lose??? None. Identity politics. This is how these groups make money. But, this women has it so right. ",
"Yeah you do or you are ignoring history and how our current institutions came to be and how they are flawed for people of color.",
"People who say \"end racism\" or \"end sexism\" or whatever aren't the problem when people talk about \"identity politics\" being bad. It's the \"fuck white people because they were/are racist\", \"all men are rapists\", \"you can't be sexist against men\", \"you can't be racist against white people\", and other similar statements, that are the problem.",
"> Question is, would you call someone \"coloured\"? Because \"person of colour\" expresses the exact same sentiment\n\nNo, it actually doesn't. One identifies them primarily as a person and then qualifies it with an attribute, the other uses that attribute as the identifier ignoring the fact that they are first and foremost a human being.\n\nSee also: \"person with a disability\" vs. \"a cripple\" or \"person with a stutter\" vs. \"a stutterer\" or \"black person\" vs. \"a black\" or \"gay man\" vs. \"a gay.\" or \"illegal immigrant\" vs. \"an illegal\" etc., etc.\n\nWhen you single out an attribute of someone and use that as their sole identifying characteristic, it's dehumanizing. Language matters. \n",
"I tend to agree. IIRC Mexico had a big movement back in the day about all of them being Mexicans, regardless of if they’re of Spanish/European descent or native mesoamerican descent. \n\nIt apparently worked splendidly and that’s the overarching attitude there. No matter what color they are or of what descent they are, they’re all just Mexicans and they all stick together.\n\nI’m sure there are exceptions to this attitude, but that’s what I’ve come to understand. \n",
"I didn't think it was to bad. My family would surely be elvish. Descendant of the british upper class. So without a doubt in the world of bright they would be elves. ",
"This is why we need to find extraterrestrial races, so we have \"others\" to hate without actually hating each other",
"Adding on to /u/Astronomer_X 's comment, it's also a good practice to use [people first language](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People-first_language) in general.\n\nOur language informs our worldview. If we say black person or colored person, we are putting the color of their skin in first in our language, which informs us that the fact that they are black or colored is more important to our understanding of them than the fact that they are a person.\n\nIt is true that they are black, but if we say person who is black, or person of color, we are allowing them to be a person first, and then describing characteristics that are secondary to their personhood. ",
"Fuck that, I want my Jurassic Park!",
"It's a lot more acceptable when a minority holds the sign.",
"less than a century ago, people who experienced it are still alive.",
"There are some people out there that are so far left, they think this is offensive.",
"If only the gesture actually meant that instead of black power.",
"Is it because she’s a black woman? Because I can guarantee what the reaction would be if it were a white male.",
"All lives matter, too! ",
"Lol this is incredibly incorrect, the genetic distance between a Chihuaha and a pitbull isn't even close to the distance between a black person and a white person.",
"You realize that racial equality didn't exist the day slavery ended, right?",
"What you want?",
"What even is this sub anymore?",
"I choose to use the UNCF's preferred designation.",
"And yet many people see the all lives matter movement as offensive and even racist ",
"https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-benn/next-time-someone-asks-yo_b_12436340.html",
"Would love to get behind this message! Apparently other people won't...",
"Unless you're white then you're inherently racist by way of your race which doesn't exist. Always don't forget that",
"Respect her ",
"I am down with that sort of thing ",
"pretty sure being 'color blind' in terms of race or believing that we're all in this together is considered racist in a lot of circles these days.",
"I've legit started putting human on forms. \n\nEdit: guessing the downvotes are from bigots. ",
"Yeah you really do. If you don't then why not just say the n word to every black person you meet? There was no problems in history that made THAT word an issue right",
"Not as long as Democrats can profit from minorities. ",
"... a studio making a gross video for shock value using various brown shit that isn't actually shit? \n\nthat's different than actual weirdos who get off to actual shit. \n\n",
"I won't get behind it because it is an incorrect statement. Race is a taxonomic classification of a population within a species that is distinct in some way. Humans are a species.\n\nIt's like saying that dogs are a race, which is incorrect, because dogs are a species. There are dog populations that are distinct in some way, i.e races, for example chihuahuas or collies.",
"Poop cannot consent!",
"Aka races.",
"Fuckin' synths",
"Well, let me know how it turns out. I assume you all are trying not to get raped so much? ",
"I think the reason that it's social and not biological is because there's no single defining feature of a race.\n\nAre there trends that go with races? absolutely.",
"I see, you don't understand the words \"current\" and \"system\"",
"Species ≠ Race\n\nsure, downvote science.",
"That sign needs a Brazzers logo on it",
"Seems like it did a number on you too.",
"its probably some kind of disorder. that isn't healthy or sanitary... ",
"Non white people in America dumb shit.",
"What I'd give to watch LOTR for the first time again.",
">SS",
"Disagree. So humans are just on top of the world? What about other species?",
"Sauron's got no idea what a MOAB is. Boy is he gonna be surprised for the last blink or so of his life.",
"That's not racism that's just a fact.",
"Sure, but in highlighting that difference it divides people into tribes, which the corporate media then plays up to divide and conquer the public. ",
"Heresy will not be tolerated or left unpunished! Purge the unclean!",
"The whole concept of “race” is laughably out dated. There is zero scientific basis for race. Only phenotypes. We’re all the same species of ape, with all the differences being tribal in nature. ",
"I got confused when people from India called themselves Asians. I just assumed they were Indians, neither Middle Eastern nor Asian.\n\nAnd yeah, I don't come from an area with a lot of Indians, so I'm glad I learned that before I opened my mouth.",
"Still doesn't change the fact that there are different cultures in this world, and those just to happen to be linked with race a lot of the time.",
"Because he didn't't have internet when he was 9. ",
"My guess is something to do with them being the primary pollinators of cacao plants",
"Agreed, the sentiment is valuable, but some people will never get it. \n\nThe one's making it all about race are the ones accusing the other side of racism. We either all come together right now to make america great or not at all. ",
"I'm disappointed that I had to go this far down to find a comment thread like this. The only people who have the ability to ignore race are the ones in the dominant culture. In a society where one's race can be a severe disadvantage, it's incredibly irresponsible to act like it doesn't exist.",
"Please don't link huffpo opinion pieces in a serious discussion, child",
"Amen. No more Black Lives Matter! MAGA!!!",
"Strider, out\n\n*mic drop*",
"Oddly enough, some of the most liberal people I know would hate this image and probably give me shit if I posted it on social media.",
"Well, a common theory is that we didn't genocide with them, but interbred with them so much that we wiped them out as a separate species ",
"Sure, you bet, no such thing a race. No such thing as genetic differences between different populations. Okay, guys, let's throw out all that DNA stuff you've been studying, it's all bogus! There are no racial differences. I know it because someone put it on a sign!",
"The emperor protects ",
"Local governments in minority areas typically have minority leaders and there are strict race based gerrymandering laws to ensure the same is true in national elections in the US. Everyone is already free to choose leaders that happen to have the same skin tone as them. ",
"What about white men? Or asian men? ",
"And?\n\nIt's not like the fingers of that fist sit around and talk about which is oppressed the most. They're blind to the color of the various digits and just do whatever, working efficiently together.\n\nThe fingers are all different sizes, but even the thumb, which *is* fundamentally different, does it's part, and that's why no well-adjusted finger really cares.\n\n",
"If wasn't an act, but the people in the experiment were heavily encouraged to behave the way they did. They didn't come up with the shit on their own. It was bad experimental design. ",
"[Work is da poop! NO MORE!](http://i.imgur.com/asUjn6q.jpg)",
"At some point it has to stop though. That’s literally the goal. At some point you have to not care about the past. If there are problems in the present, sure tackle those, but I refuse to believe focusing on the past is he solution.",
"Most societies' definitions of race have no genetic basis.\n\nFor example, [this famous Brazilian samba singer](http://cdn.ofuxico.com.br/img/upload/aniversariantes/2012/06/29/928_251.jpg) is 67% white european - genetically. But most societies would classify his race as Black. \n\n\nMy father is black, but in Brazil I am considered white. In the UK people told me I was a Latino - this race doesn't even exist in Brazil.\n\nWhen I was in the US, people also said I was White.\n\nSo the key argument is that people don't classify races by their actual genetic differences - which totally exist by the way - but by an arbitrary set of physical characteristics (most common - skin color) that varies from society to society.\n\nEdit: edit.",
"Except the Dutch. Fuck them.",
"If you don’t acknowledge it how can you go about fixing those issues to get us to the point where everyone is equal?",
"Physical features are a quick and easy way to discern and divide people into groups of us and them. If everyone was the same physical appearance, we would do the same with clothing which might have religious or ethnic ties. If everyone looked the same and had the same clothes, religion, and culture, people will still find ways to define an us and a them.\n\nCase in point, the Japanese untouchables. A relatively monolithic people still found a way to define an us and a them:\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burakumin\n\nIt is a universal human desire to think in us/them. Probably because it has been useful, and I would question anyone who says we're all in this together why that would be true or desirable. Are all ants in this together? Birds? Chimps? Trees? \n\nIf one were interested in transcending this attitude, one should start from the proposition that there is an us and a them, but we can slowly grow the circle of us and absorb them until the world is almost all us and very few them.",
"As a pale-skinned latino, they can go fuck themselves.",
"Pray tell what \"races\" you think exist.",
"...so as he said, \"superficial features\"? People absolutely consider white and black to be races, at least in America, and yes those categorizations are based almost entirely on superficial features, i.e. skin color",
"Human Lives Matter! ",
"The problem is that these groups have some major inconsistencies.\n\nFor example, people of Zulu heritage have lower rates of sickle cell than Greeks.\n\nWhat we think of as racial groups are actuallly pretty awful at tracking genetics because we focus on relatively narrow things like skin color instead of actually trying to map ancestry, after all, the distance between Libya and Botswana is far greater than Libya and Germany, but we often think of Libians and Botswanas as being in the same racial group and not Libians and Germans.",
"White males have already suffered enough from internet points inquality.",
"Pretty sure I was caught watching porn at 6 per my mom's memory. We had satellite and I watched my parents put in the parental pin at some point. Shit happens. ",
"> Immune systems are racist for identifying differences based on ethnic background.\n\nBy Creeping-n-Peeping, PhD, et. al.\n\nYou are a riot. Thanks for the laughs, bud!",
"How do we know they're even human?",
"Its not made up mumbo jumbo either. They dont show forensics to further a racist hidden agenda. ",
"I guess she's never heard of the Daytona 500.",
"Lol dude if you said that in public everyone would face palm in shame. ",
"Exactly. It seems like anyone who wants to to talk about the issue gets shut down as regressive or race-baiting, stunting progress. ",
"The only race: https://imgur.com/a/wxwkZ",
"If you don't see the systematic racism in the USA right now, you're being ignorant or oblivious. Joe Arpaio* is just one strong example, but he targeted Hispanics heavily, and illegally.",
"Yeah fuck alien scum!",
"You think GallowBoob posting pictures of signs is new? This bullshit has been going on for quite some time.",
"I do think it's funny ",
"They do though. Japanese men have some tiny ugly dicks. Also, they need to seriously trim that shit. ",
"White people get killed by police officers at a disproportionate rate relative to their violent crime rate. Why must we pretend police brutality only negatively impacts Blacks?",
"YEA! Fuck birds!",
"Why do you think there is more than one race? Has there been a new breakthrough in genetic science I'm unaware of?",
"Nah. That's false. There are several different races. Each with their own cultural heritage. We just need to be mature enough to celebrate those differences rather than become a monocultural society. ",
"ya they just added it to netflix but they should have added the whole series and the hobbits",
"I categorize like this:\n\nThat person is an asshole.\n\nThat person is not an asshole. \n\nOur brains don't force us to hate people who look different, they're smart enough to know we're the same species and that genetic diversity is a good thing. Racial hatred is much more a product of societal conditioning.",
"That’s powerful ",
"Nah man, they're just 'misunderstood'",
"The only sign I'll get behind.",
"I spent far too long trying to imagine a way for a mosquito to type a message...",
"Unless your alien",
"He's their God too, even if they're too dumb to accept it.",
"I mean, colorism is a thing too.\n\nEdit: not that a biologist or anthropologist would have anything to say about it.",
"Sounds like equality!",
"I don't believe it exists to everyone, but as a single individual, I will do my own best to perform by it. And if I can help others stand by it, even better.",
"Oh wow. When did that all come out? That stuff was taught to me as gospel as late as 2010 I think. ",
"Sadly, this is now considered raicist.",
"HELL YEAH BROTHER! ONE RACE THE HUMAN RACE.\n\nSo does that mean white privilege doesnt exist cause we're all one race? HELL YEAH BROTHER I ONE HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE!!!!!!",
"Was that Eowen? God that woman is awesome",
"Can we make this a movement?",
"fuck off gallowboob lmao",
"Change laws and social norms that systematically disadvantage minorities. Provide accountability for the systems of power that have historically disadvantaged minorities with new laws and social norms. ",
"I use a dart board\n\n...That only had black and red on it. Goddammit.",
"why is he holding an anti-science sign?",
">but in highlighting that difference it divides people into tribes\n\nwhat????? You made an enormous leap here.",
"It doesn't really take long to find how arbitrary racial \"traits\" are.\n\nIt's very easy when you compare, say a Sudanese with an Icelander, but even using the trait of skin color becomes arbitrary unless you want to start putting people up to Sherwin Williams color gradients.",
"I'm willing to make that sacrifice",
"We really need aliens to show up so we can direct our racism towards them. ",
"\"job done\" - orc peon",
"I'm not very familiar with the genetic diversity of dogs, but you're right to say that human races are not genetically defined. Especially since the advent of air travel, humans have done an incredibly good job of continuing gene flow. You can find populations where the genetic difference between two black people from South Africa and Ethiopia is greater than the difference between the person from South Africa and a white person from Europe. Race does exist, but really only in the context of culture.",
"Being blind to race isn't equality. That's just denial. Loving and accepting eachother despite our obvious physical differences is. That's like saying I don't see sex we are just humans.",
"Does she know about people who identify as \"other kin?\"",
"\\> Would be\n\nWell, it's there. Where is the left to deem it racist?",
"I like this.",
"this is the best thing ever :)",
"My understanding of BLM is that they are disorganized and do not communicate their message in effective ways. I don’t agree with blocking large lanes of traffic because that doesn’t make people want to sympathize with your cause.\n\n \nHowever, it can’t be hard to look at American history and come to the conclusion that black people have been oppressed in various ways since the 18th Century. The movement is a response to this oppression, and at its core it aims to draw attention to that oppression. Like i said, that doesn’t mean that BLM is effective or that they communicate that well.",
"This is a great message. I hope we get behind it. We need to let go of tribe mentality. ",
"I was 13 when I saw End of Evangelion for the first time.\n\nI feel like we had the same experience",
"Acknowledge it in regards to individual people and its effect on those individuals. Continuing to segment it around collective races just continues and exacerbates the problem. \n\nSo instead of saying \"Here's what black people are going through\", I would say \"here's what this individual is going through, and here's what is being done to her because her skin is black. How dumb is that?\". Instead of utilizing the same racial corraling that caused all the racism in the first place, it puts the individual to the forefront and only mentions the \"race\" as the preposterous footnote description it is. \n\nEveryone can choose to do it their own way, but that's my approach and the approach I'll teach my children.",
"You think an anthropologist would be interested in divvying up skin colors and putting them into distinct & separate categories?",
"> If you don't see the systematic racism in the USA right now, you're being ignorant or oblivious.\n\nMaybe you should question why you believe in something while having no hard evidence to present in your argument.\n\n",
"You mean we don't have to put one race down for another to be equal?? Get out of here with your sound logic and reason!",
"Typical American, thinking your country is the only one in the world.",
"Ah, you mean when someone gets turned down a job because of a racial quota, even if they're less qualified?\n\n",
"That's just what the Greys want you to think. \n\nOf course, we're going to need them once the Singularity occurs....",
"There is most definitely systemic racism in the United States. If you pulled your head out of the sand you'd see it, but you probably decide to live in an echo chamber like most people.",
">The events in our past significantly affect our present. Especially events that disenfranchised large groups of people without actually giving anything back besides freedom/life they should have had in the first place.\n\nI, as a black man, went from literally living on the street in high school to 6 figures. In the span of a decade.\n\nThis whole reparation argument is bullshit. Black people aren't held back by anyone but ourselves. And white people don't get anything for being white, why on earth should we get anything for being black?\n\nGo pedal your bigotry of low expectations to someone else.",
"“Slightly different genetically speaking” is the textbook definition of a race. Obviously there’s no clear borders since genetic traits vary highly from person to person in most populations nowadays but saying that race in general is a social construct is like saying that colors are a social construct. The way people are treated differently because of race is constructed but not the concept of race itself, it principally applies to humans like it applies to every other species on earth.",
"It's not anti-science. Race is a social construct that has no basis in biology.",
"I think they're sad because their daughter's innocence is ruined. ",
"Both. Both things happen. ",
"So it would be invalid if she was white? Nice racism ya got there.",
"Wow I can't believe this stupid train of logic still exists I bet you lobby for weed to be legal but don't realize it was made illegal so they could fill the prisons with black people and use their free labor.",
"Maybe when white people start treating POC like people I get behind this",
"Fake News ",
"Is there actually any decent person, left or right politically, that doesn’t support this message? ",
"That’s kind of an interesting concept, has their ever been a book or movie with that concept?",
"Wasn't this scientifically proven with the human genome project?\n\nNot that racism is ok without the science, just curious.",
"After seeing Bright, there are good orcs",
"YES, I AM A HUMAN AND PART OF THE HUMAN RACE, THE SAME AS EVERYONE ELSE. ",
"Exactly! You can say one race til your face turns blue, doesn't matter if you still treat brown people differently. ",
"you just jumped to conclusions so quickly. no one is saying that every shooting is unjustified. The executions of unarmed people need to stop entirely, especially since it causes fear and commotion. ",
"At this point you're just arguing over semantics.",
"/s I assume?",
"Sorry, but who is the orbiter of who is a member of BLM? Theres no actual group or leadership. Its an unorganized social awareness movement. Anyone who claims to be a part of the movement is a member",
"Sick of seeing this term every time an imbecile wants to attack someone without the effort of a valid point. ",
"I feel pretty absolved of it. I’m going to continue feeling absolved if it because I don’t take responsibility for the actions of other people. I will continue to only expect others to be responsible for their own actions. ",
"No way, she should be ashamed. That is so ablest to the other-kin out there. God what a bigot. /s",
"Get back to sorting porn files by date created in your registry, machine!",
"As much as I detest with hatred I have to masquitos, they have a the benifit of spreading the cultural dna of larger mammals and reptiles, which I think help most of the diseases in the world be non life threatening. The most successful viruses are the ones that don't kill their host, right at the start in any ways that doesn't kill both the host and the virus.\n\nGiving most of the species it invades and the virus to adapt and morph, I think would lead to a less catastrophic damage to an ecosystem that's been less prone to exposure to most outside biological changes.",
"If they wanted to say #BlackLivesMatterToo or #BlackLivesMatterAlso they should have said that. I understand what's being said, but I am not at all surprised a lot of people don't magically know that there is an implicit \"too\" or \"also\" when there's no reason for it not to be explicit.",
"Personally, I'm pretty tame in the bedroom, but I think of fetishism like food preferences.\n\nI loooooooooove frog legs. Let's say you do not. I can't explain to you exactly how great they are so we'll that you'll suddenly like them, I just do and you just don't.\n\nTo my mind, sexual preferences are the same thing. ",
"Eh, we've quite a long history of discriminating against other groups of people based on many other factors than race too though. Even fairly racial homogenous societies have found plenty of other ways of being assholes to one another.",
"No, people don't deny that racism exists, they just aren't personally racist. How is it hard to understand that?",
"that lady nailed the day",
"It's funny seeing all these emotional reactions, 100% devoid of any evidence or fact of any kind. \n\nYou believe in fairy tales.",
"I kind of wish all dogs were golden retrievers",
"Dumb. ",
"Now this is the true Tolkien extended edition I would pay for",
"How will the apes, elephants and dolphins feel about this?",
".....Saying she's an african american would be an assumption, but she's literally black in color\n\nEdit: Hell, in this day in age saying woman would be a huge assumption",
"Hur durr I don't see any white lines on that hand.",
"Don’t assume my species. ",
"Criminally underrated. If Aragorn wasn't already engaged (and wouldn't wildly outlive her), I'd be team Eowyn\n\nEdit: whoops...Eowyn, not Eowen",
"Obviously white isn't a colour. Which means if you don't see colour, you only see white people.\n\n...wait, I think I accidentally found out the logic behind this article.\n\nhttps://www.huffingtonpost.com/dani-bostick/how-colorblindness-is-act_b_10886176.html",
"We are talking about racial issues in America here. This woman is obviously in an American city ",
"If it makes you feel any better, I still think the post is dumb as is. Saying we're all just human is lazy and solves absolutely nothing. Doesn't matter who says it, the whole thing is pointless. ",
"> If you don't then why not just say the n word to every black person you meet?\n\nIf they also did not see color this wouldn't be a problem, so I don't know what your point is...",
"Fake News.",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WQOGVLLGw",
"There's only one race. Milky Wayan ✊🏿",
"\"Technically speaking\", you're wrong. English is one of the only languages where the word \"race\" is misused in common speech. There is only one human race.",
"https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3737365/\n\nRoughly, the \"definitions\" of races don't follow genetic lines, and in many cases there's more diversity within a race than across races. It's also by definition arbitrary where we would define the line as to what would be considered one race or the other, in the same way different people might draw the line at different places between blue and green.",
"Thank you 😎",
"u/Justicar-tarrae gives a good breakdown of this in his comment below.",
"I was probably 8ish when we scattered my friend's older brother's Hustlers up and down half a mile of creek bed. ",
"sub·spe·cies\n\nˈsəbˌspēSHēz,ˈsəbˌspēsēz/Submit\n\nnounBIOLOGY\n\na taxonomic category that ranks below species, usually a fairly permanent geographically isolated race. Subspecies are designated by a Latin trinomial, e.g., (in zoology) Ursus arctos horribilis or (in botany) Beta vulgaris subsp. crassa.\n\nHow many different \"subspecies\" would humans have? We are all the same species, but until recently most populations were geographically isolated.\n\nWe worry about saving subspecies of many animals and not allowing the subspecies to breed in captivity with other subspecies, but to consider that idea for humans...well....would be considered quite racist. \"racial purity\" is at the heart of the \"white pride nationalist\" movement for example.\n\nJust some philosophical thoughts and conundrums.",
"Then stop calling everyone who has opposing views racist. ",
"**PICTURES OF TEXT**, THANK YOU PICS FOR PROVIDING ME WITH *PICTURES OF TEXT!*",
"> Not seeing color is really nice for the white people who get to pretend racism doesn't exist while the non-white people continue to suffer through discrimination daily\n\nctrl-F \"America\"\n\nhmmm",
"if only he'd split his head open on concrete or something to relieve us all of his stupidity",
"Fuck I'm dying lol",
"It would be funnier if they said “All lives matter. Even the black ones.”",
"Time to unite and go wage war on other planets. Leggo!",
"Relax.",
"I didn't know that...\n\nDoesn't that still say something about people, though? A perceived authority figure encourages you to treat another human being like shit \"for experimental purposes\" and you just do it? ",
"one race: HuWoman",
"Ok. But where does it end though? Or do we just keep magnifying it to the point where everything can be deemed as racist? \n\nAnd at what point do you think overly thinking about it and protecting it becomes in itself racist?",
"I wouldn't be surprised if articles like that exist, but I feel like articles about white privilege are the ones most people point to when they say \"look how much they hate us whites\". The article isn't saying white people are all inherently racist, it's saying white people start off with a better hand at the moment. ",
"47% of all chocolate is made out of mosquito larvae",
"They also present as black.",
"In the beginning it was like that. It got hijacked just like Occupy Wall Street. \n \nBy the end of BLM and OWS, no one even knew what each movement was all about. No one had the guts to centralize it and take on the responsibility. That, and we remember what happened to MLK.",
"If you shoot someone because a person of their race is proportionally more likely to commit a crime, that doesn't absolve racism.\n\nYou can go on YouTube and find videos of peaceful, entirely non-threatening black men getting gunned down by cops. And half these cops don't even face punishment.\n\nI think despite what many may think, most people protesting police shootings aren't calling for the heads of police. We just want police to get better training and be held to a higher standard than any jackass with a gun. They're public servants, the ideal amount of people they kill should be 0.",
"Yeah you can't just wave your hand and make everyone in the world not see color. Its impossible for black folks to be unaware of how their race impacts their life. This't make up a Utopia debate, it's about real life. NOT seeing color YOURSELF while everyone else realizes it is important to recognize in how you treat people is very bad. ",
"I was with you until “MAGA”",
"If a white person says it they get lectured at though.\nApparently races want to be singled out. God forbid you say you don't see color in the comments section of any social media post. ",
"I'm talking specifically being addressed as not mattering. Any \"all of lives matter\" things I've seen have been immediately dismissed",
"Goddamn her hair looks amazing!",
"I started jerking off when I was 7. When did you?",
"Pretty much sums up Sikhism",
"As a white male I'm offended",
"I was always partial to the 200m I.M.",
"you guys are racist!",
"As an ogre, i just don't care",
"Fuck that. I’m joining the Orcs.",
"I'm human too!",
"You want everyone to personally change laws? How do you suggest they do that? Why don't you go change the law right now",
"Dog breeds aren't anywhere near as close genetically as human ethnicities. Also, if you are going to get into a biological argument, the term \"races\" is almost meaningless, you use the term ethnicities.",
"That's a generalization. But I didn't like your statement that ONLY when they shoot an unarmed black men they should be punished.",
"A sword day! A red day! Ere the sun rises!!!",
"http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/20/health/black-men-killed-by-police/index.html",
"Jordan Peterson would like to show you some lobsters...\n\nEDIT: I missed the word \"race\" the first time around and did a drive-by post on the word \"hierarchy\" which appears more frequently. If you upvoted racism, you might want to change that to a downvote. My thanks to jorgensville for the polite question. I still don't think hierarchy is really the problem, but that looks like a turbo-racist statement. : / ",
"It shows how rigged posts are and how easy it is to get posts onto the front page.",
"Where do I sign up?",
"Offensive to lizard people",
"I see your point but disagree. ",
"There are a lot of people who have good intentions but are bad at making the necessary distinctions. For example, what a lot of people call \"racist\" is actually \"racial discrimination\" which could be part of a system of racism, or could just be one-off bigotry based on someone's skin color/ancestry. When people say that white people don't experience racism, it's true. A lot of people don't understand what that means, though. It means as a white person, I don't experience the systemic racism, nor am I a target/focus of the centuries of racial discrimination that is thankfully becoming less and less casually acceptable these days. As a white person, I may experience racial discimination, but I certainly don't experience racism at all. I am not disadvantaged because of my race, not one bit.\n\nAnd of course, I'm using the word \"race\" here because language is an important tool, and you have to communicate in ways that people will understand. You know what I mean in this context. We're all the same race, truly: human. However, it cannot be ignored that we are still not anywhere near the elimination of the systems and prejudices that make up racism and the racist social constructs that are now slowly being disassembled.\n\nWhen people say minorities can't be racist, it's a fact. They are not part of the oppressing side of the system of racism that exists. Now, can they be bigoted and say things that are racially discriminatory? Absolutely, they can. And unfortunately, that's something that a lot of \"rank and file\" liberals and other well-intentioned people say and don't understand what they're saying. They're still right, but they are right for the wrong reasons. They lack the understanding of what they are saying, and thus when they are challenged on it, they don't know how to react. It's similar to any sort of dogmatic belief, right or wrong. In this case, right, but they can't articulate why.\n\nI hope I've been able to articulate why, here.\n\nEdit: A word\n\nEdit 2: This comment has been downvoted from where it was standing in positive numbers rapidly and is now getting a lot of responses that are the same sort of low-effort discrediting, and I won't respond to all of them. Methinks it got shared around. I get it, you brought your friends to team up on me. It's okay, I'm not mad about it. You can sit in your wrongness and be wrong if that's what you enjoy.\n\nWhat I've gathered from this is that it truly irritates people when someone who opposes them is calm, friendly, and standing strong for his convictions without resorting to insults. Be irritated. Whatever you need to do, do it, but then take a sec to remember we're all human and we should wish one another happiness.",
"I'm really glad this is being expressed.\nLike sure, in a vacuum this idea could be good. But we don't exist in a vacuum, we exist in a society with implicit and even explicit racial bias and violence. Overlooking this and just saying \"There's only one race uwu\" doesn't help anyone and only overwrites existing struggles for equality.",
"Race in humans is definitely 100% a social construct. It has a specific meaning in biology and the differences in skin melamine production and other slight variations in morphology do not meet the criteria.",
"Also humanity is already a species, not a race.",
"How many genders? People seem to be hung up on that for some reason.",
"Which in time becomes the derogatory term. See: retarded\n\nContinually altering terminology because people can be shit heads does not stop people from being shit heads. It just gives them more room to do it.\n\nThat's not to say we can \"take it back\" in Randall fashion, but acting like \"person of color\" is so incredibly different from \"colored person\" is asinine.\n\nSeriously, go with the sign. We're all people. That should be enough.",
"Context clues exist lol. ",
"...because there are more white men in america than black men lol. Unarmed black men are shot at a far higher percentage than any other group. 2x as many unarmed white people are shot as black people (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/11/arent-more-white-people-than-black-people-killed-by-police-yes-but-no/?utm_term=.40ffb6da01b3), but there are 6 times as many non-hispanic white people as black people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States).\n\nTherefore, black people are shot by police at 3 times the rate of white people.\n\nAlso one here is claiming that all of them are unjustified, I think it's easy to point to a few of the famous ones that sparked protests even.",
"Source? Mainly for the part about most blacks being in jail for drugs",
"And get harsher penalties for the same crime.",
"Now you're catching on",
"I am sorry that the people of my ethnic background have treated you in such a way that that is your response to this sentiment. Unbalanced power dynamics tend to make people behave shittily, unfortunately.",
"That's when you choose to a look at studies that track a drug like crack, and give you the percentages of people charged with drug crimes as a result of that one drug. When the study correctly chooses to lump all drugs together, the high number of white people charged with crimes relating to cocaine and meth makes the prosecution rates virtually equal.",
"wtf is this sub? Ok, thats it. I'm done. I'm unsubscribed. It's obvious this bullshit sign fest isn't gonna stop. \n\nI wish there was a sub that had cool pictures, but this one is /r/peopleholdingsigns\n\nHey mods. Fuck you. ",
"> and whether it helps with differential diagnosis\n\nPeople hold up signs at political events, and protests. Trust me nobody is protesting about differential diagnosis.\n\nI'm a moderate, so I like to have conversations with people from all areas of politics. If you say that \"race doesn't exist\" the people on the right will look at you as if you are completely disconnected from reality. You'll probably want to find better ways to formulate your argument like \"with travel being easier in the modern world the lines between races are blurred anyway so it's more and more meaningless\".\n",
"That's racist.",
"Sounds like a good plan to me.",
"Yeah, med student here, I'm calling bullshit. Either you're not a doctor/health professional or you shouldn't be one. Race matters for, like, a ton of different differential diagnoses and workups, not just things like sickle cell anemia. Lysosomal storage disorders in Ashkenazi Jews, Beta-thalassemia in Mediterranean populations, alpha thalassemia in Asian populations, hypertension proclivities, Takayasu arteritis in Asian females, Kawasaki disease, the list goes on. You're either doing something very wrong or you are a liar.",
"That’s are actual distinct skull shapes that differ between different peoples of the world. There literally is scientific basis for it.",
"I don't doubt that and I'm sure it's a vicious cycle where black people commit more crime due to poverty and are then discriminated against heavily (for example in drug searches) due to their higher crime rates, leading to more poverty, etc.\n\nBut you can't deny there *is* a reason black men proportionally get shot more than white men.\n\nWhite men do some crazy shit, like shooting up school or killing cops from time to time, but there are *waaaaay* too many videos of black people committing (often petty) crimes out there, compared to the amount of black people actually living in the US. Whenever a video leaks where a gun is pulled on a cop, more than half the time it's a black man doing it.\n\nOnce again, not saying white people don't do it and I understand there is discrimination going on, but you can't deny their crime rates either.",
"Yep, they seriously missed the point.",
"Okay. Done. Now what? ",
"Like a fine wine, only time will tell",
"The analogy wouldn't be \"person with stutter\", it would be \"person OF stutter\" - which defines them just as much by their disability as \"stutterer\".\n\nPersonally I find \"coloured\" distasteful because it designates white skin as the default, so darker skin tones are treated like they've had something done to them, like those people have been altered in some way. In reality, we are ALL coloured, or none of us are. \"Person of colour\" does nothing to challenge that original prejudice, it just expresses the same thing in a pompous sounding way. ",
"Yeah, lol, I think OP is full of shit.",
"Waaaa it happens to everyone. It doesn't justify saying fuck all of you. You're a bad parent if you can't explain this to your child.",
"Eh, I like to be more inclusive, what about animals and aliens? No one should to be fucked over to improve the quality of life of another.",
"I think she is displaying the exact point they have been trying to get across for a long long time. ",
"That's from evolution. For example black men are more prone to sickle cell because West African nations have historically had issues with malaria and mosquitos tend to favor those without sickle cell traits (not the disease itself), making it easier to pass on. Obviously more black people live in West Africa but any race of people over time would have a larger population with a certain disease if it meant immunity to something that was killing large parts of the population off. \n\nRace is socially created to interpret the differences we see in people. ",
"They tried that in the forties. It didn't work out well",
"Fuck humans.",
"Does this make it racist to hate people in general now?",
"Oh my god... what’s that some sort of fancy name for scat. Why? Oh jeez gross",
"Hell yeah!\nThat’s a Great message that everyone should realize. No one is better than anyone else\nWe are all just human",
"Yeah, just when race is no longer an issue. Women decide they're just going to PMS about everything else.",
"There are brown labs and black labs and yellow labs- there aren't different human breeds in the rigid sense, we come just come in different colors. ",
"she is on right ",
"Because “all lives matter” itself is a dismissal of “black lives matter” which is a valid response to the [increased chances that police will use deadly force with black men.](http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/20/health/black-men-killed-by-police/index.html)",
"Exactly. Another example is someone getting turned down because of their race, even if they're more qualified. Sounds like there are lot of aspects of institutional racism...glad we both recognize that.\n",
"It's the same logic the other person used...",
"Yeah, literally no one said white people have it bad.",
"There's been a lot if research debunking psychological studies in general because the people in the experiment naturally want to do what they think the experimenters want. I don't even know if it's an authority thing. ",
"That's a sacrifice I am willing to make. I'll let the genetic engineering solve that one when we come to it.",
"Its gotta be a non white person leading it though, or else it'll be labled as racist",
"More specifically white men. I got to choose my avatar for real life mode... didn’t you?",
"People still call Indigenous Americans \"Indians\" because that's how it was written in our government's founding documentation. \n \nEven though we all logically know that these people are not Indian, buracracy prevents us from correcting the paperwork.",
"So ignore the thought process and mindset of someone who happens to be white until someone who happens to be black holds it?",
"And so many white people agree with it. People don’t realize it is easy to take advantage of white guilt...",
"At 10? Amateur. I started with Real Sex on HBO at age 7.\n\nOn a side note, anyone remember Naked News?",
"Well said, I want humans to celebrate their differences not melt into one race. Canada does the former but The US seems to enjoy the \"melting pot\" homogenized one race latter ideal.",
"I'm talking about in the public discourse. They've done social experiments with kids where if they divide them up into groups and treat one differently and make a point of talking about it, the kids get tribal and act like there really is a difference. \nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-group_favoritism\n\nOf course there is some less happy evidence that shows that we look for differences innately even as babies:\nhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/10770563/Babies-show-racial-bias-study-finds.html",
"Shit I was staring in porns by then!",
"Ethno-Nationalism is not synonymous with Ethno-supremacy. ",
"Then post this to r/signs, not r/pics\n\nAnd this sign achieves nothing",
"The NAACP was made a long time ago before the term was coined smh ",
"LOL. Oh ok, I'll jot that down in my book of notes with my pen of blue while I'm eating my dinner. Chicken of sweet and sour.",
"The human-unifying catalyst of alien invasion can’t arrive soon enough.",
"That's like saying if we stop caring about ISIS it will eventually go away",
"My cat was triggered by this image.",
"thank you ",
"Thank you",
"The Hobbits can stay in the bin tbh",
"Please see my response to another individual in this thread. I hope the response is helpful in your understanding.",
"Jesus Christ, are we still in the 19th century?",
"Orc lives matter.",
"looks like the infinity gauntlet ",
"Anti-Artificial Intelligence Radicals are already taking to the streets.\n\nWe live in the future.",
"T H I S B L O W S M Y ^M ^I ^N ^D ",
"This is dumb. This sub is dumb. ",
"I thought that we were supposed to call this \"colorblind\" thinking, which is often also deemed racist, because it supposedly minimizes the different struggles of different races.\n\nI mean, treat everyone equal unless they give you reason not too, but also, isn't acknowledging and accepting our differences, including racial differences part of diversity... and put another way, if we're all one race, then it sort of implies that racial diversity doesn't matter, when the reality is that it does considering the different struggles of different races.\n\nFurther, there are biological physical and mental differences between the races, skin color tends to be the go-to physical one, but also thinks like different disease heritability, different average sizes, different rates of having twins, different skeletal features so much so that trained professionals can identify race just by the skeleton. On the mental side, we have different rates of different mental disorders and diseases (also including things like suicide), different average IQ's, different predispositions to different philosophies, those who evolved in winter climates are significantly more likely to overwork and plan ahead, while those who evolved in climates with ample food tended to be more likely to \"live in the moment\". We see these features in other animals too, for example, bees. Tropical honeybees, with access to flowers year round do not overproduce honey, while honeybees from winter climates will build up massive surplus's such that humans can steal half and the colony can still survive.\n\nAll just food for thought. I think we should welcome and embrace our differences, not be afraid of them.",
"As a black man lol\n\nI’m not arguing for reparations, but it’s silly to just be like slavery and Jim Crow has no effect on our present. You can’t just succeed and proclaim that anyone could, matter of the fact the reason it’s special that someone made it is because most can’t. Our society setup literally wouldn’t function if everyone was successful.",
"My aunt was a dolphin, how dare you ",
"[It's far from just black power.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_fist)",
"This is because of the type of drug. If you compare powder and crack cocaine then you are right... But if you compare crack and meth which are both solid and smoked instead of inhaled then the difference basically even out",
"Our future alien overlords will not be pleased by this image file ",
"It's a very relevant point being made. When do you think systemic racism disappeared? ",
"Can we stop with the whole \"Human's don't have races, technically it's blah blah blah...\". It's the idea that counts and you all know what the fuck it's talking about. Stop being like \"*A*k*C*hu*A*l*L**Y*\" and just take the overall message for god's sake.",
"Ooh La La",
"Lol this is a serious misinterpretation of the point of the article. It's not like black people are neanderthals and white people are homo sapiens, it's just that we're all mostly homo sapiens and all have a little neanderthal. No one's denying that there are genetic differences between people from different parts of the world, clearly black people have different genetics that make their skin black",
"But white people are horrible and only black lives matter.",
"What? You can't just apply the same logic to everything. The only reason black folks \"commit more crime\" is because they get targeted for drug arrests more than anyone else.",
"There is a distinction between *using* drugs and *selling* drugs. ",
"Mankind my ass! He's mostly worm. ",
"White girls: \"meh, this is an anti-Trump march.\"",
"Exactly, there's such a shitshow in the comments below about: \"Oh, but you can't just sweep racism under the rug!\" \"Such a white guy sentiment!\" \"No, we need to treat everybody equally right now!\" \"But what about justice!\" \"Cops shoot white guys too!\"\n\nCan we at least agree that however we get there, \"ONE RACE: HUMAN\" is the goal? Sure, there's stuff to deal with on the way, but we want a world where this woman's sign is just the status quo, not controversial?\n\nLike, if you put \"New York\" into your GPS, you don't argue about, \"But you can't just drive in a straight line!\" \"What about all those corners?\" \"We'll have to stop for red lights!\" \"Cops might pull us over!\" Sure, but we're trying to get to New York, right?",
"I would like to point that is you are indeed what you claim, you are an outlier.\n\nMost people that are just above all the way to below the poverty line, rarely have that level of economic mobility because of the financial costs inherit in reaching a six figure lifestyle. \n\nYes, it can be done, but it isn't the rule but the exception.",
"Source?",
"I know of no people who identify with BLM who have accepted those murderers as part of the movement, nor has there been any link, AFAIK, between the murderers and any organized group of BLM.",
"When there ceased to be any \"system\" enforcing it.\n\nIf you can find one, point it out to me, there will be millions to be made in a federal law suit.",
"you weren't?",
"That's a message I can get behind",
"I'd like to point out that I am not saying there is no discrimination/racism going on, but it's more complicated than 'he got shot because he's black'.\n\nAnd the videos of unarmed people getting gunned down frustrate me as much as they do you.",
"One Führer.",
"That's simply not true, there's more genetic variation between different groups of Africans than between different races. There is genetic variation according to geographic clines but they don't align with racial theories which were debunked a long time ago.",
"Maybe it would help if stop bringing up race and racism every chance we get. ",
"[**We came to you once, starving, homeless, seeking your help... *But you turned your back!* You, turned away from the suffering of my people..**](https://youtu.be/Q69yl9a4QPg?t=2m13s)",
"at least we should acknowledge different species of humans. ",
"I've been doing that for a couple of years now.",
"Human is a species, not a race. ",
"https://www.aclu.org/issues/mass-incarceration/smart-justice/war-marijuana-black-and-white\n\nThis one has numbers https://www.aclu.org/gallery/marijuana-arrests-numbers\n\nQuote Despite roughly equal usage rates, Blacks are 3.73 times more likely than whites to be arrested for marijuana.",
"Im not human im a furry thank you TRIGGERED",
"White people have 2-4% neandarthal dna",
"Auto correct failed you again, bro. ",
"i mean theres objectively races though, people developed in different places and had completely different ancestors\n\nremnants of neanderthal and cro magnon differ between races and some have nearly none of either, its actually really interesting",
"I identify as a potted plant. How dare you assume my species ",
"Neeeeeeope. Some people choose not to be dragged into such small minded discussion at all and there is no side to pick. There is no \"you're either with us or against us\" mandate when referring to social issues. And anyone who honestly believes there is needs help. \n\nHope this was useful! ",
"“Color-blind” anti-racist whites are heavily criticized by POC ",
"*You* added the only. Acknowledging that it happens to black men at higher rates is not the same thing as saying that police shouldn’t be held accountable when violent against other races. Of course they should. And they are more likely to have been held accountable. That nurse in Utah and that white woman who got shot got a ton of attention. Cops literally made fun of Eric Garner by wearing “I can breathe” t-shirts. It is not a generalization but an observation of their behavior.",
"> Dude, what kind of evidence do you want? It's all over the news every night if you open your fuckin' dumbass eyes. I'm done with ignorant fucks like you. Take your racist ass of the nearest tall cliff ya dumb cunt\n\nA solid argument from a deep thinker. Thanks for proving my point.\n\n\"JUST LIKE, OPEN YOUR EYES CUNT\"\n\nTruly, an eloquent position you've got there.",
"They're only eleven, dude.",
"[Careful now!](https://youtu.be/gT9xuXQjxMM)",
"https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-construct-scientists-argue/\n\n\n",
"is does exist but is no way as prevalent as people make it out to be\n\nbeing color blind IS the only way really\n\nwhen i look at someone I'm looking at that person and who they, not their fucking skin color\n\ni dont give a fuck what color you are, why would I?",
"blacks also commit most crimes at higher than average rates, so it would make sense they are in jail at a higher than average rate. ",
"This is obviously implying that focusing on the issues of institutional prejudice towards specific races is in some way mistaken. Yet there is objective evidence of disproportionate incarcerations, prosecutions, use of deadly force by LEOs, and mistreatment of blacks, Native Americans, latinos, and other minorities in the USA. In other words, while it's true that we are not biologically split by race, racism and its social consequences are extremely real. It's a manmade phenomenon we perpetuate.\n\nThe entire history of the US is unambiguously racist towards non-whites, and overwhelmingly towards Blacks and Native Americans, in every decade since its inception - slavery, genocide, forced displacement, indentured servitude, withholding civil rights from non-whites, Black Codes, the KKK, Sundown Towns, Jim Crow, internment camps, housing and loan discrimination, Redlining, segregation, lynchings, race riots, perpetuation of slavery through the prison system, racial wage gaps, unequal allocation of federal funding, unequal enforcement of the war on drugs, unequal punishments for non-violent drug crimes, unequal access to resources, the list goes on and on.\n\nSo it's pretty ridiculous to pretend like black people are exaggerating their protests or should just let go of race. They can't because our society has been structured to acknowledge race. The effects of these historic and ongoing systems of racism violate the societies, rights, and lives of non-white Americans repeatedly. It's ridiculous to act like black communities can just rise to greatness if they work hard enough - it's no exaggeration to say they've been held down for 400+ years. \n\nI don't think many people realize how insultingly ignorant it sounds when white people downplay racism. It trivializes some gross offenses we have perpetrated for centuries, and which has defined so many things on a day to day basis for non-whites. I really don't think most white people (myself included) can comprehend exactly what that feels like. If we really care about the rights of humanity as a single species, then we have to address racism first.",
"Human isnt a race...so dont spread that anywhere",
" Stop trying to redefine racism. ",
"Holy shit",
"Yes",
"You're born with race because other people see the race. There's nothing biological about race. There's biology behind skin color, hair color, etc. In fact, when race was seen as biological, the courts had to abolish that belief because there were so many fallacies (look at prerequisite cases with Armenians, Syrians Indians and Japanese). There are innate \"common knowledge\" differences we see between different races but those are all socially constructed, not biological. ",
"I mean.... Duuuuh! \n \nSeriously though, I have always tried to hold on to this concept. The idea that skin color defines ones \"race\" makes no sense. \n \nTechnically, since we have *breeds* of animals usually defined by color or structure, would we not be breeds instead? Instead of interracial porn we would have Cross-breeding porn. And that actually sounds really wierd now. I'm going to stop this train now.",
"Yea but we suck..",
"Finally a message I can get behind.",
"but see nowadays race gets you victim points.\n\nGoing to med school? +150.\n\nEducator? You had sure as fuck better not treat everyone equally or you are just perpetuating inequities and you are a horrible educator. ",
"Actually, many of us (racial minorities) do care about race, and we would like for racial majorities (often white people) to see us for our race, our background, what our people have gone through in the past and what we go through today. The \"I don't see race\" cop-out from (typically) white people is just another way of saying \"I don't actually care about your race because I am too lazy to differentiate all of you people but give me the benefit of the doubt that I am not a racist.\"",
"what about blood transfusions and genetic diseases that only certain races have, should we ignore that shit",
"What do you want... cat?",
"If you have a competent understanding of societal power structures then you should understand that those statements are reactionary byproducts of the way systems are set up in the US, not the problem.",
"Interesting! Man, who'd of thought sociology and psychology are, like, complex and shit lol\n\n/s",
"I choose to not to care about race. This includes not giving a fuck about diversity. ",
"While this clearly sounds like sarcasm the poster isn’t wrong. We did outlive (kill off, depending who you ask) the Neanderthals like 30k years ago. It’s entirely possible if they didn’t go extinct we’d be forced to democratically share the planet with them as we once did. That clearly didn’t work in the favor of Neanderthals. ",
"That's what civil and human rights legislation has tried to do for a very long time. Unfortunately, it's severely undermined by [critical race theory, intersectionality, and identity group politics](https://everydayfeminism.com/2015/02/colorblindness-adds-to-racism/) which claims that this thinking *is* racist and instead proposes the [progressive stack](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_stack) to give different people of different races and identity groups different importance.\n\nOf course, they are seriously wrong in all of their arguments. Treating people on their individual merits without discriminating based on race isn't just the basis of civil and human rights, it's also the conclusion of moral philosophy from the Marquis de Condorcet to John Rawls (and even MLK), and more importantly it is the correct thing to do to eliminate racism. The above critical race theory is wrong that it is acting as if we are *in* a post-racial society and thereby ignoring problems of racism. The reason we treat people on a level playing field with a single standard and no points for race is as a mechanism *to approach* a post-racial society. Treating people by a common set of rules and individual merits regardless of race, is what *reduces* racism. What causes racism is [ingroup/outgroup psychology](https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201012/in-groups-out-groups-and-the-psychology-crowds), which is triggered in two steps: identifying people into different groups rather than as individuals with traits, and putting those groups [into conflict](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realistic_conflict_theory). The groupings can be arbitrary, random, or based on natural groupings like geographical origins, skin color, etc. It can be eye color, height, favorite sports team, political leanings, Coke vs Pepsi, Android vs Apple, PC vs Mac, or whether you see a white and gold dress or a blue and black dress. The conflict can be perceived or real, and can be a competition for rewards or punishment or triggered by insults or aggression. As long as people know which group they belong to, and the conflict keeps up, it goes from insults, to vitriol, to hatred, to violence, to dehumanizing.\n\nSo, those of us who understand the history, science, moral philosophy, and psychology keep up the fight for civil and human rights. But these darn identity group political people won't go away or listen to the damage they cause, and so we have the two extremes of classical dominance bigotry (majority rules, minorities must fall in line) growing against neo-Marxist progressive stack bigotry (minority and marginalized rule, majority/dominant must shut up and step aside). They grow from each other, and grow more violent and hate-filled against each other. It's what happened in Italy 100 years ago leading to Mussolini, where fascists and communists fought each other in the streets. It's what happened in Germany in the 1930s where fascists and communists fought it out. In those two the fascists won and executed the communists. It happened in the Soviet Union as well, where communists won and executed fascists (and many others).\n\nWhich brings us to the growing extremism today. So yes, I absolutely agree with the poster above. Can we all agree to challenge both right-wing and left-wing types of bigotry when we see it?\n",
"Wolves, dogs, dingos, jackals, and coyotes are all one species as well.\n\nIf you think having 3% Neanderthal DNA vs 0% makes zero difference... it's a nice idea but just plain doesn't add up.",
"That's where I found my first porn!",
"I am sure some white knight somewhere is already mad about this and thinks it's racist ",
"Thank you for your comment. This thread is full of dumb shit.",
"Just because they don't \"accept\" the murders, they were still carried out in the BLM name, and the shooters got their disillusions from the teachings of the movement. \n\nA few random BLMers can't just say \"He's not part of the movement\" when there is no formal head of the movement. Anyone who speaks up about BLM is a member. ",
"I like it",
"One Species that would be.\n",
"Maybe the orca will be freindly like they are in the elderscrolls",
"Does this mean that we don't give certain races preferential treatment over others to fulfill quotas? Such as not giving people a place in universities/colleges due to their skin colour even though they don't meet the general requirements (affirmative action). It would also mean not dishing out \"white guilt\" and other such nonsense. If people who hold these up don't agree with that, it's very hypocritical. But I can get behind the message of this sign.",
"Clean water in flint. End gentrification. Better maternal health outcomes for post partum black women. This is all very googleable.",
"ashkenazi jewish or not is a significant data point for many breast-cancer risk models.",
"We create preconceived notions based on societal conditions.\n\nIf we were all the same ethnicity we’d just solely judge based on the rest of the things we already judge about, height, beauty, etc.",
"It's not an uppity thing man, it's just pretty essential to recognise the biases around us and to think about how we interact with them. It's lame to ignore all that.",
"Not really, it's obvious what they mean. The only people objecting are the subtle racist types who just want to get offended.",
"> Race is a social concept.\n\nThere are a billion things that are social concepts, and they are real.\n\neg. The difference between \"blue\" and \"green\" photons is entirely arbitrary social concept, but a real fact as far as usage of the English language goes.\n\nThe difference between a red wine glass and a sparkling white wine glass. Social concepts, but real, and while you'd be pedantically correct to say \"they're all glasses\" the fact remains that humans have decided to designate them as different.\n\nHuman races is a real factual social concept, as real as the social concept of the other billion things like \"fast cars\" as distinct from \"slow car.\" Trying to remove \"race\" from that list is as stupid trying to ban the terms \"hot weather\" and \"cold weather\" because \"its just a social concept and its all just weather.\"\n",
"Well, I don't know what to tell someone who's asking for \"evidence\" of what is plain to see if you pay attention. Like wtf? You gonna ask me how to see next? How to pay attention to shit? ",
"Lol ok. I’ll quit lying. I’m so sorry. For spreading lies about women’s rights protests. Sorry sir. Yes sir. ",
"Amended",
"Myself included the people in close to. \n\nSo yeah, we. ",
"i don't get the hate for you gallowboob you have the best post.",
"Everything is a disorder in psychology! \n\nHaha, mostly kidding but on a lot of things, not really. A disorder is just something that goes against the accepted standard, pretty much. I don't think this has a physical manifestation but honestly not sure. ",
"Going to be honest here: I do see colours, but I do all I can to disregard them and purely consider people, as just that; People. \n\n",
"/r/totallynotrobots IS LEAKING.",
"No one is keeping you here. My only assumtion is you're being insincere because you can make choices.",
"Haha before Google search, you had to find porn your self. I remember boobs.com",
"No that is not what race is. ",
"Please and thank you.",
"No, but if you live in a democracy I'd appreciate it if you used your vote and your voice to move us in that direction. \n\n> Why don't you go change the law right now\n\nI could do more, certainly, but I do vote that way and I've protested about related issues.\n\nTo be clear I'm not blaming you personally. I'm just saying that, to paraphrase the great MLK jr, it's the white moderate who is content w/ how things currently are politically and socially that is the enemy of progress. ",
"> No one's denying that there are genetic differences between people from different parts of the world\n\nSocial construct.",
"> Genetically, there's no races. But certain populations have certain genes\n\nlol",
"https://www.thoughtco.com/things-you-can-do-to-help-end-racism-3026187",
"maybe you had to gone down so far is because it's not only a terrible opinion, it's the wrong one to have\n\nyou are LITERALLY advocating for treating others differently based on skin color, that's LITERALLY racism",
"There are biological variations that are exhibited between different racial groups. Different diseases, for example, have different groups they affect at vastly different rates. Biological differences between races is a simple fact that is “logical and reasonable”. It’s not an opinion. \n\nThat doesn’t mean one is better than the other or that what the picture that is presented is wrong. In fact I believe the message is correct. But it is a FACT that biological differences between race are real and well documented.",
"\"Woman of color\" is a broader category, and the effect would presumably be similar with a Latina, Indian woman, etc.",
"Yeah 8 here. ",
"Some biologists and anthropologists argue that those differences are so insignificant it is useless taxonomically. Others argue it is useful. It’s pretty silly to talk about unless you’re in one of those fields as outside of that or maybe medicine it’s a really academic and moot point. For all intents and purposes in regular everyday life it is absolutely a social construct.",
"You've just become Exhibit A.",
"The sooner nobody cares about race, the sooner it becomes a non-issue.",
"The only race I see, is the good and the bad.",
"Excellent comment. Of *course* redditors would eat this up. \"We're all the same!\" is a hop and a reddit skip from \"Racism doesn't exist!\"",
"http://www.ywca.org/atf/cf/%7B6E17ADC0-4C95-4605-B672-E4DA59DC891E%7D/10%20steps%20to%20eliminate%20racism.pdf",
"Not ALL Orcs",
"That's funny... I'm certain.",
"I find it a shame that people stick their heads in the sand when it comes to skin color. Of course there are differences. Simply look at how much comedy is made about these differences. And the differences bring forth different social structures. And thus a hierarchy is created.\nEven your remark about healthcare diagnosis and porn are practical examples of this hierarchy laid bare.\n\nSome might find the next comparison crude, but there surely is a parallel to some degree. People have no problem whatsoever in talking about the characteristics of two breeds of cats/dogs/birds/cattle/etc. \n\nThe problem is created when certain people seek justification of atrocious behaviour in these differences. And the problem isn’t solved by refusing to analyse what can been seen by everybody.\n\nIn that sense, there is nothing wrong with the picture. We are indeed one race. And it would help if less people would judge on appearance alone.",
"Person: \"Charity starts at home\"\n\nMe: \"Planet Earth\"",
"its almost like people have differing opinions because there different people",
"Where’s the TL:DR?\nShit, my thumb got tired from scrolling. ",
"Yep, just have to recognize that it affects *everyone* and that no one race is immune to it, contrary to what a lot of people believe.",
"Without mosquitoes, there wouldn’t have been a Jurassic Park franchise. ",
"Literally though... that guy just did. I mean literally",
"When I was 9 my cousin showed me sex.com. I printed off a screenshot and hid it under my bed.",
"https://www.buzzfeed.com/ramosaline/fight-racism",
"I wonder if she will turn down a position she's given based on \"diversity\".",
"It’s pretty clear cut. I treat everyone equally, take responsibility for my own action, and expect others to do the same. You see, if that morality is replicated by everyone, a just society is the eventual result. Building a society based off the sins of past generations will only perpetuate the harm. Most reasonable people that don’t spend their academic years in focused hate sessions see that. ",
"Nope, you're just projecting your own America-centric biases onto everything else, because your country is the only one that matters. ",
"I agree with this message wholeheartedly. Death to identity politics. We are all human.",
"Nelson Mandela subscribed to colorblind anti-racism. Look at how that turned out...",
"See, that isn't how arguments work dude.\n\nYou say something exists.\n\nI say it doesn't and ask for evidence.\n\nYou try to provide evidence.\n\nYou don't just say, \"LOOK AROUND YOU YOU IGNORANT CUNT\"\n\nThat is not an argument.....\n\nBut that is what I get for engaging with /u \"Ilickprolapsedass\" I guess\n",
"Hey look, a picture from before post modernism and indentity politics.",
"Nice ",
"I only fear a cage...",
"They're quite humerus ",
"https://itstopswithme.humanrights.gov.au/resources/what-you-say-matters/what-can-you-do",
"KILL ALL OTHERS",
"DEATH TO THE XENO SCUM! FOR HUMANITY! FOR THE EMPEROR!",
"If you continue to benefit from a social construct without giving an effort to help those who are oppressed by it, you aren't absolved of anything. Most people go through their lives without properly helping the underprivileged, but even if you don't end up properly helping those in need, you ought to pay attention to the struggles of those who are oppressed and feel a desire to help them. And you should never feel absolved of that responsibility",
"Aw yeah baby, that's us, folks! Humans fo lyfe.",
"I'm sorry you grew up with an incorrect understanding of this, just like I did. I had to learn, and you can as well. You can also resist it, but that feels really stubborn to me. Like a man refusing to learn how to fish. Some people may just be unreachable, but I prefer to patiently explain and not get too riled up when people react like this. Stay compassionate, friend.",
"Lol sounds like you have a bone to pick. Race relations here are much different and more divicive than anywhere else. Fact. ",
"You mean majority hierarchy.",
"Fucking preach ",
"*species",
"That doesn't even make any sense. ",
"https://m.wikihow.com/Help-Reduce-Racism",
"So are Christians a radical fringe group because of the Christians who have been involved in mass shootings?",
"I feel religion divides us more than race.",
"I don't see color, so I assume you say \"minority\" because she's a woman?",
"Wait. Are you saying there are no innate differences between the races? Or are you saying that there's no justificiation for the \"versus\" mindset? ",
"I was referring to anyone he was replying to. ",
"OK, I'm not trying to be offensive here, I'm asking this in good faith, but what is your solution?\n\nIf I do judge people by race, I'm a racist. If I don't judge people by race, I'm ignoring my responsiblity and am racist.\n\nOutside of treating people as individuals, by how they act and not by their sex, race, sexuality, disabilities or other factors beyond their control and acknowledging that I might have more favourable life conditions due to my race, sex, etc. (which is something beyond my control, so why should I be judged on it, especially when I don't agree with it?), what do you want me to do that means I'm not 'ignoring my responsibility'?",
"one species-one race-one humanity on one planet...",
"Wut? Genetics and continents are social constructs? \n\nYou sound like the kind of guy who listens to Ben Shapiro or reads the daily stormer and gets off on \"trolling\" liberals",
"I have 1000 giant toes to sell if you have the coin",
"\n>Such a *insert people of this race and/or gender here* sentiment\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things\n",
"Some day, the colour of your skin or the appearance of your heritage will be no more identifying than the colour of your shirt.",
"[\"Shortly after the first ACE inhibitor was approved in the mid-1980's, it was also recognized that whites responded more favorably to ACE inhibitors than did blacks. Over time these differences in response became well accepted, such that ethnicity began to be used in helping to guide selection of antihypertensive drug therapy.\"](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2730023/) \n\n(For those not familiar, hypertension increases your risk of developing heart disease and stroke. ACE Inhibitors are a class of drugs that are a cornerstone of hypertension management. The fact that it doesn't work as well in African American patients is a **big** deal.)\n\nIf you're not factoring in race when prescribing drugs to your hypertensive patients, you are in fact **doing them harm.** Especially since heart disease is one of the main causes of death in the African American community. -> [The burden of cardiovascular disease in the African American community remains high and is a primary cause of disparities in life expectancy between African Americans and whites.](http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/early/2017/10/20/CIR.0000000000000534)\n\nJesus fucking Christ, *doctor*. **Where the fuck did you attend medical school??** Don't tell me it was a fucking naturopathic school.\n\n",
"That's wrong, there is real race differences, like IQ",
"I feel that will not be your fate",
"Did you miss the part where I said \"individual\"? Okay, I'll just go out and stop gentrification and clean the water in Michigan myself. Don't worry I got this",
"Yes. But we need to keep this in mind also. ",
"I am up for having only interracial babies till there is no difference",
"It isn't.",
"Not me. Papa bless Nurgle!",
"I can't fucking believe there are people in civilized countries that will vehemently disagree with the message she's trying to send with that sign.",
"Yes fist em all!",
"Unfortunately I think everybody gets that the \"too\" is implied. They can create whatever narrative they want and pretend BLM is a hate group but everyone knows the actual point they're trying to make. ",
"One needs only look to Rachel Dolezal.\n\nLiving proof that race is a construct, the same as gender is. If a man can be a woman, but not have a vagina, just by thinking it, why can't someone be black, but not have black skin?",
"There are certainly radical Christian groups and radical Christian preachers.\n\nThough I've yet to hear Christians chanting in the street for \"death to X group of people\"!\n\nAlso, you might want to check the dictionary for the word \"fringe\"",
"I think it could be simplified into friends /family, and everyone else. Should cover most things. ",
"It means your still stupid, for sure.",
">The whole concept of ~~race~~ hierarchy has been responsible for some heinous atrocities throughout human history. \n\n",
"It's a Warhammer quote...",
"They're both assumptions, the only difference is that from the picture I'm more confident assuming that she's black than that she's a woman.",
"So none, then.",
"\"They\" murdered a bunch of police officers. Who is this they and how did a leaderless movement anyone can subscribe to murder a bunch of people? That's like saying all redneck asshats like yourself are responsible for the OKC bombing. User name does not check out in the asperational sense, only the delusional interpretation.",
"Is sex with a dead body masturbation? It's pretty much the same thing as using a pocket pussy, just one that was a living thing at one point. But once life leaves a body, and it's just one person performing the sexual act, shouldn't it just be masturbation? Even if the body didn't consent, would it really be rape if the 'life' doesn't exist anymore?\n\n\nEdit- not into it myself, just stoned and asking weird questions",
">buzzfeed\n\nQuickest way to ruin credibility",
"so your point is you dont know what genes are",
"[Along with these](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/df/75/fc/df75fc9fdf77df1ce912e58de632c3e9--les-simpson-stupid-funny.jpg)",
"At the same time, it's important to acknowledge that it's an artificial social construct.",
"I don't think this is the case. Saying \"hey we can't ignore this very real thing\" isn't approving of said very real thing. ",
"And at other times they are the most meaningless. ",
"[Maybe you want the NSFW version?](https://www.flickr.com/photos/jordanseej/25933465148/in/album-72157664887016188/) \n",
"Or just a human, that’s what us liberals called people before the cultural Marxism of identity politics took over.",
"We need an alien invasion for humanity to unite",
"Yeah, and enslave them!",
"I'll always be jealous of people who can draw hands.",
"That’s a species ",
"Yep, we’re all the same animal. Can’t we all get along? ",
"I’m ok with the vanishing influence of those that work hard to give better lives for their children. I hope you’re working to do the same. \n\nhttp://time.com/money/3925308/rich-families-lose-wealth/\n\n",
"She had no concept of race in her mind. Imagine if her whole generation were like that, what do you think would happen? You don’t need to teach fucking 5 year olds about slavery. Nothing positive will come from it.",
"interracial sex will help achieve this",
"Haha a fucking holocaust denier who talks about \"bone structure\" in black people\n\nSo many racist dipshits on reddit",
"Me not that kind of Orc.",
"Thank you, I've been explaining this since I saw that episode of Farscape where John returns to earth. ",
"bro... you're not gonna convince me that literally eating shit isn't a disorder... \n\n>I don't think this has a physical manifestation but honestly not sure.\n\nwhat are you talking about dude? eating shit will make you ill... ",
"1. They don't care OR\n2. They weren't exposed to it. ",
"This is SJW trash ",
"I never heard that, but it makes sense. Dammit. I really liked hating mosquitoes too. It's so much easier to hate a thing if you don't know how integral it is to the ecosystem. \n\nI also found out that mosquito hawks don't actually eat mosquitoes- really disappointing.",
"Nah, I think they're just saying that the fallout from racism can't be ignored.",
"No one thinks about the trees",
"I like this a lot, and who knows maybe that train of thought could flourish.",
"All hail our strong ancestors.",
"Unfortunately it’s somehow racist if you don’t take race into account at all. Boggles my mind sometimes when people consider it racist that i literally don’t give a shit, like i’m not acknowledging the struggle.",
"> but we can slowly grow the circle of us and absorb them until the world is almost all us and very few them.\n\nNot sure if heartwarming inducement to global harmony, or internet-savvy [pod person](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUXHB5U-Vl4).\n\n",
">I’m not arguing for reparations, but it’s silly to just be like slavery and Jim Crow has no effect on our present.\n\nNobody is saying there wasn't an effect. I'm saying that you shouldn't get special treatment either direction based on your race. You shouldn't get free shit because of the color of your skin.\n\n> You can’t just succeed and proclaim that anyone could, matter of the fact the reason it’s special that someone made it is because most can’t. Our society setup literally wouldn’t function if everyone was successful.\n\nMost people can be successful, most people have that opportunity available to them. The limitation and the reason our society functions is because most people don't exploit those opportunities. They have nobody to blame but themselves.",
"yes",
">Only populations, all closely related but with some minor differences. \n\nIf only we had a word to describe that. Oh wait. \n\n>Race is a concept used in the categorization of humans into groups, called races or racial groups, based on combinations of shared physical traits, ancestry, genetics, and social or cultural traits.\n\n",
"There's literal genocide happening in Myanmar and you have the nerve to say something like that. Jesus H Christ",
"Its a race not a species, havent you played warcraft?",
"My entire question is what you want accomplished on an *individual* level. And I think being a kind respectful person who treats everyone equally is plenty. ",
"One gender!",
"Hands to yourself sneak-thief",
"We’ve historically disenfranchised black people and others but if we ignore that it will fix itself? I’m sorry I really doubt that. It would be nice if it did work that way, but unfortunately we do actually need to do things.",
"Both religion and secular science have stated there is only 1 human race...",
"Make a donation. Don’t be an asshole on Reddit etc.",
"After watching the movie Bright, it's the elves we have to worry about.",
"I legitimately want to get on this paid troll stuff: I spend way too much time on Reddit and can troll pretty good if I do say so myself. Would be a nice side gig. ",
"Two ignorant shit heads commented so it’s probably option 1",
"Ethnic variation is pretty much what race is. It's the narration that's wrong, stop racism, start speciesism.",
"Your friend's older brother only watched the imported, esoteric films?\n \nGoddamn elitist.",
"And why is that? I thought this was saying we shouldn't see skin colour?",
"What a dunce. I have several accounts. ",
"I remember in grade 12 English our teacher had us read a memoir of a rich liberal white guy who attended a black majority college. He described not making any friends and feeling like an outcast, and that he was enriched by the experience because he now knew how minorities feel in America every day. \n\nI objected to the moral and said it isn’t good for *anybody* to feel like that and that I don’t compartmentalize people based on their skin colour and I don’t want it to happen to me either. \n\nShe told my teenage self I was ignorant and racist. ",
"Except cough old white males.... ",
"Racism requires one person/group having *power* over another. Saying that one group of people needs special attention because they're at a disadvantage is LITERALLY not racism.",
"Black Lives Matter is not a fringe group, they are a large segment of the black community sick and tired of being denied justice. There's nothing fringe about them, or violent for that matter.",
"I think we can all agree that it most likely -- simply from a statistical standpoint -- doesn't affect all races equally. And my gut tells me that at as a white guy, it probably doesn't affect me nearly as much as it affects non-white people.",
"Attacking the source instead of the points made in the article ",
"boi",
"This would be the best thesis statement.",
"Most of my history is r/dota2. Am I a bot or paid troll?\n\nPeople have primary subs. Thats a shitty source to draw information from.",
"So stop treating people differently because of race. ",
"Scrawny little beta liberals on reddit too afraid to offend anyone so they'll avoid confrontation. Fucking cowards make me laugh.",
"Most of us already have, actual racists are the minority even if they're the vocal majority. The issue is now pressing towards politically correct or equal deprecation. ",
"It's impossible for a person of color, or any person for that matter,to grow up with no concept of race in her mind. \n\nWhat is wrong with teaching 5 year olds about slavery. I knew about Nazis and slavery back then and I'm fine? No child is truly innocent, you just want to be angry about those liberals teaching your kids how YOU DUN WAN EM TOO HYUCK. Your anger is misplaced. You can't shelter your kids forever. If you were a good parent you wouldn't have sent her to school with no concept of race or how to treat people.",
"Just because we are human doesn't mean we shouldn't preserve our ethnic diversity. ",
"Lol k. Learn to read next time",
"I mean, if I say \"I have a blue car\", is the main focus there that I have a car, or I have a blue thing? The nature of English as a language is that adjectives come before words.\n\nHeck, since you say \" it's also a good practice to use people first language in general\" would you agree that what you're really saying is most important here as a world view is that \"it's also good to use people in general\", because you say good before practice, and people before first or language?",
"Hard for the public to get behind that, when one half of the country focuses on it so much",
"Do you want a Terran Empire? Because that's how you get a Terran Empire.",
"This is what i think BLM and feminism miss. If you try to put one race or gender infront of the other you're really just repeating the problem..",
"I don't know why I clicked on that, but I did. ",
"Species. ",
"Fuck... I should have known the original spawned.",
"And its the worst of all races.",
"Wholeheartedly agree.",
"> sick and tired of being denied justice\n\nThen they should spend time providing evidence for the injustices. Not chanting about killing cops in the street.",
"Identity politics is cultural Marxism.",
"Where does what end? Fighting injustice? Probably never, ideally when there is none left.",
"Not really. Race and genetics are only loosely related. For example, the race commonly known as \"black\" has more genetic differences within itself than there are differences between races, yet we lump them all together. For another example, something like a quarter of American \"blacks\" have more European ancestry than African.\n\nThere are genetic groupings, and one could use the word \"races\" to describe them, but it's not related to how \"race\" is used in this context, any more than a conversation about citrus oranges would apply to the color orange.",
"Correct, race is not purely genetic so it wouldn't have much value in a medical setting.",
"I don't see any white people not treating people of color like people, in any of the cities I've lived in on the west coast. If you're not this side of the Mississippi, you should try it out - pretty good, here. Not perfect, but good, nonetheless.",
"It didn't even make a ripple in any of my social feeds down here in AUS, don't be surprised that people aren't aware of it.",
"it also depends on the context, we talked about this in class but most people identified as black and saw \"person of colour\" as being very \"us\" and \"them\" and assuming everyone is just \"non-white\". Quite a lot of racism towards other white European races in pockets of people too.\n\nMight be a British thing but a lot of people I knew identified as being from theirs or their family's country before race came into it. Like being \"Black British\" etc. is the secondary identity to the specific one, rather than \"African American\" which seems to be more normal in the US. \n\nA teacher did a bit of a survey and found that Muslim students from Somalia didn't identify as \"black\" whereas non Muslims did. There's also the race/ethnicity/religion aspect to it too especially with lighter skinned people and some places where being dark is seen as lower class, not actually a race thing.",
"But, we are not one race. We are like dogs. Some are golden retrievers, some are labradors, some are poodles, and so on.",
"But that doesn't cause controversy so it's impossible to be united around something peaceful like that. ",
"I think this goes without saying.",
"Its fucking GALLOWBOOB",
"I introduced to porn when I was 9, I was on the bus and my friend pulled out some playboy magazines, haven’t looked back since.",
"Human DNA variation is actually lower than many species on this planet. Similar to cheetahs, humans likely went through a time of near extinction (called population bottleneck), and we are all descendants of a rather low number of individuals.",
"Could easily be a man in a wig and makeup, the sign is covering up the rest of the body, so it's difficult to say.",
"Yes, replacing words in a sentence does change its meaning. Who'd have thought?",
"This is a message to put an end to discrimination, not a scientific message. Over analyzing much?",
"Easy, I'm not arguing with you. I'm telling what's going on the world, and you're being a dumb cunt.\n\nIf we were arguing the existence of some phenomenon like black holes, or the existence of God, then I would gladly provide you with evidence to support my point. \n\nAs it stands, I'm not going to argue with an ignorant racist fuck like you over the existence of systemic racism in America that anyone who watches the news or keeps up with current events/history can clearly see is happening.\n\nSorry you're silly cunt and like to argue dumbass shit on the internet because you have no life, but I'm not going to entertain your moronic drivel.",
"I was thinking the same thing. I'm wizard either, but I didn't think different raced people have different health needs. ",
"*Live free, my little buddies!*\n\n\\*throws hustlers into air*",
"Find a better point to argue next time",
"Racism is systemic? Which system is it in and could you please provide some examples? Edit: how come I never get an answer to this question? ",
"How is her sign different from the message of \"all lives matter\"?",
"You should watch the anime \"GATE\" I think you'd like it. it's a rather short one, but entertaining and has one of my top 5 scenes that I absolutely love.",
"User name checks out.",
"What about sarcoidosis? ",
"How is her sign different from the message of \"all lives matter\"?",
"This is the same as Tigers taking over the Lion population, area and culture and then virtue signaling \"we're all big cats!\" ",
"Why? What good can it do? You’re slamming racism into their mindset where nothing good can come from it.\n\nI’m not angry about liberals, I’m not sure where that comes from. I sent her to school with no concept of race because she needs no concept of race. It serves no purpose. She’s there to make friends and learn how to interact with *everyone*. She treats them all the same, which race has nothing to do with.\n\nI disagree with your perspective, and think it’s sad, backwards, and part of the problem. \n\nEdit: added a bit, since I missed you edit or didn’t read the whole thing.",
"Well, sort of. Race is also a perfectly valid biological and taxonomic term to distinguish between varieties of a species. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landrace",
"Actually we're a species, not a race",
"This makes sense because they were *really* hot",
"This picture is New York City.",
"What responsibility do I have for majority privilege? ",
"There would be no side to pick if racism didn't exist. But racism exists, so there is a side to pick. Neutrality isn't conceptually possible, because if you don't choose a side, you're tolerating racism. Tolerating racism isn't as bad as racism itself, but it's still bad. If morality exists, mandates must follow. Apologies for any inconvenience.",
"Don't tell the leftists that. ",
"> As it stands, I'm not going to argue with\n\nYou misspelled \"am incapable of\"",
"I'm making fun of the idiots who think race is just a social construct. We have genetic differences, and pretending we don't denies science. ",
"54 out of 95 mass shooting were committed by white people and whites make 80% of americas population , this is clear discrimination and prof of media pushing its own left agenda",
"What about elves? Or cat people?",
"I presume you don't live in Oregon or California backwaters. ",
"The biological differences you're talking about are only in certain subsets that exist geographically. Ie: west Africans are predisposed to sickle cell as a means against malaria, but east Africans aren't. The concept of these differences having to do with race is rejected by science.",
"Banuazizi, A., & Movahedi, S. (1975). Interpersonal dynamics in a simulated prison: A methodological analysis. American Psychologist, 30, 152-160.\n\nThat was the first major critique. Prescott, someone involved in the experiment said in a new release in 2005:\n\n“…ideas such as bags being placed over the heads of prisoners, inmates being bound together with chains and buckets being used in place of toilets in their cells were all experiences of mine at the old “Spanish Jail” section of San Quentin and which I dutifully shared with the Stanford Prison Experiment braintrust months before the experiment started. To allege that all these carefully tested, psychologically solid, upper-middle-class Caucasian “guards” dreamed this up on their own is absurd. How can Zimbardo … express horror at the behavior of the “guards” when they were merely doing what Zimbardo and others, myself included, encouraged them to do at the outset or frankly established as ground rules? At the time, I had hoped that I would help create a valid, intellectually honest indictment of the prison system. In hindsight, I blew it. I became an unwitting accomplice to a theatrical exercise that conveniently absolves all comers of personal responsibility for their abominable moral choices.”\n\nZimbardo said to his subjects, obviously setting up his expectations for his experiment:\n\n\"We cannot physically abuse or torture them,\" I said. \"We can create boredom. We can create a sense of frustration. We can create fear in them, to some degree. We can create a notion of the arbitrariness that governs their lives, which are totally controlled by us, by the system, by you, me, [Warden] Jaffe. They'll have no privacy at all, there will be constant surveillance -- nothing they do will go unobserved. They will have no freedom of action. They will be able to do nothing and say nothing that we don't permit. We're going to take away their individuality in various ways. They're going to be wearing uniforms, and at no time will anybody call them by name; they will have numbers and be called only by their numbers. In general, what all this should create in them is a sense of powerlessness. We have total power in the situation. They have none. ...\"",
"No, no. Thank **you**.",
"nano tech",
"Yawn",
"- Anonymous Redditor",
"You can choose to not browse Reddit. Go away if you don't like it. \n\nYou can choose not to be here.",
"Get rid of thier unions ",
"It's called defiling a corpse the surviving family members tend to frown upon that",
"what are you even saying?",
"Until the aliens show up",
"Why is the hand/arm White?",
"Which has nothing to do with the comment I replied to.",
"What does acknowledging it do? It doesn't bring anything constructive to the table at all. Congrats, bad stuff happened to your ancestors. Shit happened to mine too, but hey, it's history. I don't feel the need to go around and bring it up and blame it for everything. At some point you have to take responsibility for your current actions.",
"The problem is how far back you want to go when talking about ancestral species. *\"According to one theory, Neanderthals, Denisovans, and all modern humans are all descended from the ancient human Homo heidelbergensis.*\" It sounds to me like we are all descendents of the same ancestral species. And according to the article, the populations that became what are now Europeans, Africans, and Asians did come from the same ancestor, they just inter-mated with Neanderthals and Denisovans along the way. Any two given populations of any species will have genetic diversity. Taxonomy is an incredibly complicated field that is always the subject of debate. In my opinion, we shouldn't let ever-changing hypotheses on the ancestral origins of humans affect how to identify and process race, which is largely culturally constructed.",
"So your solution is to let black people go until the numbers are proportionate? ",
"Yeah, I hate the \"I dont see race or color\" crap. We're different it's a fact, we have different hair types and skin colors and cultures. We shouldn't be promoting being blind to them because its what makes us us. Instead we need to promote loving each other because of our differences. \n\nJust because I'm brown and your white and she has stick straight hair and he has curly hair, doesn't make anyone better or worse than the other. We're all different, let's embrace it and love each other for it. \n\nEdit: Downvote all you want, I stand by what I said. I find it MUCH more rude when people outright ignore my culture or the cultural differences we have vs someone recognising them and embracing them or being interested / wanting to learn more about it, and vise versa. I love learning about others cultures and how we are different because I find those differences beautiful. People who run around and scream \"IM COLOR BLIND! I DONT SEE YOUR SKIN COLOR OR YOUR CULTURAL DIFFERENCE! LALALA\" just come off as them not wanting to engage in cultures outside of their own. ",
"What if we deconstruct it and find it's not just a social construct?",
"*sorts by controversial*\n\nHow are people complaining about this? What is there to complain about? \n\n????",
"Words can mean lots of different things. There are lots of different definitions of the word \"racism,\" and lots of subtle distinctions between all of them. Sociologists use a whole lexicon to be able to discuss all of these subtleties, but the average person uses one word--racism--to attempt to communicate all of it. \n\nWe are not equipped to have these conversations until we can all agree to use more specific words to communicate the nuance of human social structures. Your response to that comment was the equivalent of someone pointing out that there's a crow, a robin, and a Northern Flicker out in the yard, and you shooting back, \"Stop trying to redefine birds.\" There is a reason why there are different words for different things that we observe, and that is because we need specific words for different distinguishable things in order to communicate to each other and learn about them.",
"Of course, these aren’t actually Tolkien’s words at all.",
"As long as humans are not all the same there will always be some kind of ism ",
"Homo sapiens for the win!!",
"Testimony is evidence.\n\nAnd if you're going to cherrypick a few individuals for chanting about killing cops, I'll just cherrypick white Christians and say that all of Christianity are responsible for them. Fair?",
"Let me just make this clear, are you saying that the following statements:\n\n- \"fuck white people because they were/are racist\"\n- \"all men are rapists\"\n- \"you can't be sexist against men\"\n- \"you can't be racist against white people\"\n\naren't a problem?\n\n> those statements are reactionary byproducts of the way systems are set up in the US\n\nIs that supposed to be an excuse to be explicitly racist and sexist?",
"That’s why I switched to beigeish off-white.",
"it's not 'rigged', it's just about knowing your audience and medium. post at the right time with the right message. dont hate the player, hate the ~~game~~ fans in the stadium. \n\ngallowboob doesnt get special treatment that shoots him to the top. he just pays attention to what times are best to post and what kinds of topics redditis likely to support.",
"tl;dr go a head and just say all lives matter. lol",
"And you *literally* appears to not understand the humor he was going for ",
"Welcome to the age of the Internet",
"If I had one race it would be the 110m hurdles. Jumping is useful. ",
"Truth! \n\nWe're all fucking mutts",
"going on /u/armsandhearts comment, they might be British too and \"coloured\" or \"person of colour\" is seen as a very racist thing to say to someone, at least it would be without the context of outside usage. ",
"Why do you think it's scientifically acceptable to speak of different dog breeds or different horse breeds, but not different human races? ",
"Damn straight.",
"That is the definition of race - a population that is differentiated in some way from another population of the same species, but not sufficiently differentiated to be considered a different species. If interbreeding regularly occured, those differences would disappear. Race is the result of genetic isolation.",
"*raises black power fist*",
"Can you provide a source detailing the measurable difference in bone structure as it relates to current, culturally defined races?",
"Same when the Robots take over. Be damned if I let a canner try to kill me!",
"[Merriam-Webster would like a word with you.](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism)",
"3/5th human but close enough I guess",
"She's awesome enough that Lucatiel--a combat ally in Dark Souls II who is (after a couple patches) arguably stronger than anyone else in the series, even Solaire--is a blatant Eowyn expy.\n\nKeep in mind that Dark Souls is a Japanese series. Eowyn's badass transcends culture.",
"“One race! Human!”\n\n“Yeah, let me tell you things white people can’t do!”",
"Too late",
"Attempting to invalidate a valid and true statement with absurdism, taking the stated meaning to the furthest extreme: check\n\nKeep going and you’ll hit every cliche SJW response available.",
"One race, 265 genders, let’s go!!",
"Huh sucks for you. Kids need to learn things or they grow up without context and repeat the same mistakes. Maybe your kid heard the n word and didn't know what it meant. In any case this is just bad parents being angry to cover up their bad parenting. If you don't want your kids to learn about actual history then home school them and tell them about racism when they're 15 and already hate people who are different.",
"Weak. Try again troll",
"Éowyn you plebe",
"So is money, but it has a pretty significant impact on your life. ",
"Real nice, post a comment and then decide you don't actually want to participate. Either stand up for yourself or don't bother posting.",
"I think the point was to get rid of race shit. No more white,asian,black,etc just the **human** race. ",
"Completely different. People aren’t racist on purpose. People of ISIS are members on purpose.",
"that's not a good enough reason to do nothing",
"By cultural Marxists.",
"Blatant strawman",
"> When people say minorities can't be racist, it's a fact. They are not part of the oppressing side of the system of racism that exists.\n\nSo, to be white means you are intrinsically part of the system of racism? Damn. I really should've checked my privilege at birth. But hey, since I wasn't sufficiently educated in post-Marxist critical theory to unpick the implicit oppressiveness of the skin colour I was born with, when do I receive all those sweet benefits that must come from being an oppressor? Because I'm poor as shit. Same as my black neighbours!",
"Oh please... you do your whole 'one race' spiel as little way down the chain I just linked. Despite it being solely an excuse on your part, it was the only comment you made that wasn't downvoted.\n\nBut if there's another you made from an alt, by all means link it.",
"That's more of an argument showing that it's not always easy to tell what race someone is by looking at them than an argument against race being a scientifically useful concept.",
"So true!",
"You say this, but I've spoken to a bunch of people that would actually disagree with the sign... (unfortunately)",
"You can choose to ignore me. What's your point? Also, that does nothing to explain how I'm being \"insincere\". I genuinely wish r/pics would ban this kind of shit.",
"Everywhere else in the West we know this by and large, it's only in the US there is abject hatred between the races en masse.",
"The reason people were made fun of and talked about for saying all lives matters was because at the time when black lives matter was just starting the phrase all lives matter was used in a way to almost discredit black lives matter and mislead people into thinking that black lives matter meant we only care about black lives and no other, when really black lives matter means \"Our lives matter as well\".\nThe way people used the phrase all lives matter back then was almost like I was talking about how deadly cancer is and how people with should cared for then someone else comes talking about \"Well there are people with these other diseases and conditions that are deadly too do they not get cared for?,\" \nI'm not saying it's the most dangerous and that people with cancer should be the only ones cared for, i'm just saying these people need to be cared for as well\nSimilar to how black lives matter isn't saying black lives are the only lives that matter but is actually saying that our lives matter too.\nWhile there are those who use all lives matter to discredit the black lives matter movement, others use it in a positive way by saying the same message this woman in the picture is stating but don't understand the true meaning behind all lives matter and they unknowingly get mixed up into it.\nAt least that's what I believe, I hope that I don't make anybody mad.",
"Oh! So she's anti-affirmative action then right?",
"In America person of color is the preferred term. Especially at University",
"PSA that the Fellowship is now on Netflix. \n\nJust sayin'",
"WARNING dont sort by new. Its a shithouse in there ",
"isn't it a tone?",
"Go back to middle earth! ",
"Phenotypes. Purely superficial differences. People closer to the equator have more pigmentation. People closer to the poles have less. “Race” is based on antiquated Victorian ideology. \n\n[Source](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-construct-scientists-argue/)\n\n",
"I don't think she was presenting this sign as a scientific fact. She's trying to say that races have only minor physical differences that shouldn't matter in our society.",
"Pretty astounding to say that someone's understanding is \"incorrect\", when it's very likely that they were born before your definition was even invented.",
"Ok. It's also your quote now, apparently. ",
"The whole concept of humanity being a blank slate as been responsible for some heinous atrocities throughout human history.",
"I think the Biology is becoming arcane knowledge nowadays!",
"I grew up under a black father and Hispanic mother but with blonde hair, blue eyes and white skin, when my Indian in laws met my parents the look on their faces were priceless. ",
"Wow. Learned sokmething new today. Appreciate it. ",
">healthcare diagnosis and porn filters.\n\nDon't forget food. Food is good but I personally feel attaching the racial/regional description to it is necessary given how much variety there is.",
"If you think so than ask yourself why because I read the sign and it seems she thinks is celebrating that instead.",
"I learned all this in college, I'm highly educated and this totally isn't broken situational circular reasoning at all. Race doesn't exist except for white people who are inherently racist to black people and the Muslim race. And they have white privilege which also exists because its a social construct invented by racist white people to keep everyone else down except the Jews and Asians (pay no attention to the Asians) but only sometimes. And you can't be racist to whites because you're just getting revenge for the collective crimes of their race. I wrote my thesis about it.",
"Humanity is a species and within that they are races ",
"It’s a straight up shithole ",
"There is only one gender.\n\nThe human gender.",
"Be the change you want to see in the world.",
"Landrace is a different word than race. And I think we both know that’s not what people mean when they refer to ‘race’ unless they’re using it in that specific context. ",
"I mean really! Where there's a will there is a way, and nobody has more will to find porn than kid on the edge of puberty. ",
"This is so true. You go, friend!",
"no it doesnt\n\nif you treat someone different because of their skin color, that is racism\n\nit has nothing to do with power over someone else and no college sociology class or tumblr definition is going to change that\n\n",
"One race, 99 genders.",
"Well, masculine features in men tend to be picked more by women, especially pre-civilization, and monogamous relationships weren't as common back then, so men would screw whatever was left. \n\nThe women would probably choose the more masculine looking Neanderthals, as the women tended to have the greater ability to choose their mates out of the two sexes, while the men would take whatever is left. \n\nHere is an explanation I found on YouTube: https://youtu.be/DX0Dg9MxsOg",
"I don't know if \"interesting\" is the word I'd use",
"> Testimony is evidence\n\nNot sure what you mean here, but no, someone saying \"I FEEL INJUSTICE\" is not equal to injustice.\n\nI honestly don't care what you say about Christians. You know why? Because I don't have any stake in identifying with some ideological group. People that view some \"movement\" over individualism, rationality, and logic are normally not deep thinkers to begin with....which is why both Christianity and BLM are based on emotional lies about the nature of reality, instead of hard facts.",
"Username checks out. ",
"Talk about a controversial statement! *NOT*\n\nAlmost everyone in the west already believes this. You'll never get total agreement on anything but we're already as close to it as we're going to get. ",
"Everyone hates on Bright but what were you expecting?! I thought it was GREAT for what it was: something to watch whilst stoned to the bejesus and you can't decide between Training Day and Fellowship of the Ring. I've watched it twice. ",
"Addressing racism doesn't address differences in groups. It's actually the opposite. We want to be treated equally regardless of the color of our skin, which is not happening right now, so we speak up about it. The goal is to get everyone to see that there's little differences between us, no matter our skin color, or what \"shithole\" country we're from, and we would love to see a day where we're judged by the content of our character, rather than the color of our skin, our last name, country of origin, religion, etc.",
"The ones that I've seen dealt with weed.",
"A-fucking-men. Along with teacher unions",
"We just need one good alien attack to unite humanity and put all our differences behind us!",
"ever heard of drag?",
"> while everyone else realizes it is important\n\nHow is it important? It’s a lottery.\n\nIt’s pnly important because assholes think it is and treat people differently because of it.",
"That is used as a counter protest to discredit the Black Lives Matter movement. It generally isn’t sincere, its literally “your message is meaningless, Black people!” Which in itself is inhumane. ",
"One race: rainbow road. Winner gets the last bag of chips",
">Sudanese to an Icelander.\n\n\nSome people in North Sudan are caucasoid and would have indistinguishable skeletons from that of an Icelander. Sudan is pretty diverse in and of itself.",
"They sided with the Dark Lord. Cant forgive that.",
"I was all about those Victoria’s Secret catalogues. Developed quite the collection when I was a kid. ",
"and here comes other races like cat men, vamps, werewolf's, and many other races claiming humans as racist's ",
"\"All lives matter\" as a slogan only came about as a response to \"black lives matter\". BLM is protesting how police treat black people much worse than white people; the subtext of \"all lives matter\" is that this is not an issue, and the status quo is fine. That's why it annoys people. Saying people annoyed by \"all lives matter\" therefore don't value white people's lives as much as black people's lives is overlooking the context of the situation. ",
"I don't think so. Historically, race has described percieved differences in physical features. Concepts of who qualify as what race have changed over time, because there's no objective quantitative criteria. \n\nArabs used to be considered white, for example. In recent times, with the increase in religious terrorism under the banner of death cult versions/offshoots of Islam in Asia, many far right groups have adopted islamaphobia positions and definitely consider Arabs and Persians a distinct race. Race is flexible. Genetics is not.",
"But..but what about Animal porn? ",
"\"colored people\" as if it's some sort of banner of inclusion. Which it isn't. It's also just another label used to exclude people who \"haven't suffered enough so they don't have as many suffering points\" built up. And they're so blatantly blind to the privilege that they have, or refuse to take advantage of it, because they want it handed to them on a silver platter.",
"This isn't really true. For example African-Americans have high rates of heart disease compared to people living in the West African countries they came from. This is because of selective pressures during the Triangle Trade, not race. Discussing biological human differences in the context of race as opposed to populations is ridiculous and only plays into a dangerous and misguided narrative. Grouping people based on skin color and even haplogroups has no scientific basis and that's why race shouldn't be considered anything but a social construct.",
"If you ain't Dutch, you ain't much!",
"Sorry I asked what to do on an individual level. Also sorry the best you could do was say \"stop gentrification\" and spam me with shitty buzzfeed links. Oh well you tried...kinda",
"This may be somewhat contentious, but there is some historical evidence to indicate that the concept of racial hierarchy was invented retroactively to justify the already ongoing enslavement and exploitation of brown people that enabled the rise of “Western Civilization.” Point being that removing the concept of race doesn’t dissolve the longstanding social and economic structures that we commonly refer to as Racism. If I can find a source i will post it. Anyway, food for thought.\n\nTL;DR economics usually trumps deeply felt prejudice",
"I bet if humans felt invaded by extraterrestrials, that sign would turn into everyone's motto real quick ",
"Down with the Xeno scum! Up with the glory of humanity!",
"Reddit is a shithole ",
"If aliens invade the earth we’ll forget about our “races” pretty fucking fast.",
"Actually no, it's scientifically spot on. While there are very minor genetic differences between people from different regions, there are no clear boundaries. It is not possible to group people by these traits so there is no way to define different races. If you try you will always cut a population in half somewhere.",
"Depends where you go, and when.\n\nTry being Irish in the 1800s, or a European Jew in the 30s or 40S, or a poor Russian in the early 20th century, or a Bosnian in the 90s.\n\nBut sure, as we all know, being white means you don't feel pain or fear, right?\n\nThere's a whole world out there, but things are alright for white people in the west, so that must be the case everywhere, right?\n\nOr you could not be so hung up over race and your own prejudices and deal with the problem: that people suffer all over the world every day, and the colour of your skin doesn't count for shit when you have nothing and nobody looking out for you. ",
"A few years back Raven Symone said she just wanted to be an American and drop the African thing, as we're all just Americans. There was a huge backlash against her.",
"I appreciate the sentiment, but humans are a species. Species have many races. Maybe attempt to switch the emphasis that race doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things rather than denying its existence. ",
"> It’s easier to identify someone isn’t white then pin point them as black when they then say ‘I’m Asian, not black.’\n\nI'd disagree on the premise, since black is descriptive of appearance in a way that Asian isn't. I'll even give an example, when I saw Rogue One (twice) I had no idea that the actor playing [Baze Malbus](https://lumiere-a.akamaihd.net/v1/images/mwc-35c-repeating-cannon-main_46aa5a0e.jpeg?region=0%2C0%2C1560%2C878&width=768), Jiang Wen, was Asian. It was only when I was checking out the IMDB page that I saw the name, and looked him up. Granted there's also that, certainly in the US, 'Asian' can certainly also count as white, depending on a whole bunch of variables, including when in time we're talking.",
"That drawn hand is white tho",
"You've been on Reddit for not long enough",
">Not sure what you mean here, but no, someone saying \"I FEEL INJUSTICE\" is not equal to injustice.\n\nSo millions of black people are lying?\n\n>which is why both Christianity and BLM are based on emotional lies about the nature of reality, instead of hard facts.\n\nBut would you agree that Christianity is just as much of a terrorist organization as you claim BLM to be?",
"It's important to recognize how our institutions treat people of color. Otherwise that ignorance may lead to you saying something stupid and misinformed. \n\nIf you don't understand how race can impact your life then you have a lot of work to do...",
"In the end it is irrelevant what you want to call it right? When people say race they mean that genetical variation, it doesnt happen to be biologically correct, but does it really make a difference what we call it? \nIs just changing the word race to ethnicity, people would still view the other groups the same way they see them now. ",
"That's where the porn fairies live, duh.",
"Probably shouldn’t be doing a black panther fist (a notoriously racist group) while preaching this message. ",
"Pretty sure default sub aren't a thing anymore.",
"nah",
"Sophistry. Btw, gallowboob voted for Jill Stein. ",
"i dont understand how you used to different definitions of racism in your post. You have racism as the big, all-encompassing word for institutionalised (historic or current) discrimination based on race, and then you use \"systemic racism\" in your definition of racism.\n\nRacism, colloquially, has never included all those other things. It's why you said systemic racism. I find it a tad annoying when people berate others for not using words in the way they are used in acedemics. \n\nWords do have multiple meanings. Some of them, like racism, directly contradict each other.",
"Posted by the safest, most sterile reddit user ever. Go figure. Post something that seems deep on the surface but in reality is just so vague and obvious it pleases everyone. ",
"This! So much!",
"Cant we all just be people and put racial differences behind us? ",
"Some folks get cognitive dissonance when i say that because the default is that unions are good but police are bad. I get a lot of mixed responses with my opinion on where to start with holding bad cops accountable.",
"One race: Birds\n\nOne race: Fish\n\nPlease continue",
"Really? Saying all lives matter? This is racist /s",
"You are kind of right but I don't think you are getting the point. It doesn't matter if the traits are arbitrary for races. The point isn't to divide people by their race (or it shouldn't be). It's to categorize the world and parse it down so it's easier to understand. \n\nIf you point out some one at the store and they are like, \"who?\" And you day, \"the human\" they aren't going to have any idea what you are talking about. But if you say the Asian woman, they will understand what you are talking about. It just so happens that one of the easiest ways of categorizing people by sight is by they're geographical heritage because historically those people are very similar in appearance relative to the rest of the world.\n\nSo yeah the categorization might not be explicitly consistent as you point out, but if someone says look at that Asian guy over there you will still know who they are talking about which is the whole point.\n\nMaybe some day if the world gets globalized enough terms like 'Asian' 'black' or 'Arab' won't be good categories any more, but in that case we will just invent new ones that other people will get. ",
"if people just stopped talking about race and racism it would go away.",
"Doing Social Policy and it is quite a big topic to handle, we did a until that basically said even if something like \"race\" doesn't exist, it can be made to exist and impact people's lives. \n\nSaying race isn't a thing doesn't change disadvantage people have felt and are still feeling so you can't just ignore it.",
"Yeah, but don't expect me to kiss an elf's ass in the process",
"That's a species, not a race.",
"Make a donation. As an individual.",
"no, the '-race' in landrace refers to both the taxonomic and biological version of the word. I simply provided the link to landrace as an example of this usage.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(biology)\n\n>Races may be genetically distinct populations of individuals within the same species,[3] or they may be defined in other ways, e.g. geographically, or physiologically\n\n",
"We need to get the East on board with this ",
"Yea but if its not race, its ethnicity or religion or sex or hair color or eye color or height. \n\nGoing to a pwi and having white roommates I realized that *people* enforce the fucking hierarchies and separate themselves from one another. I would always see brunettes left out if there were blondes around. A lot of angry brunettes at my uni. If there were just blondes, it would dwindle down based off of shit like where they were from or their class status or even their height. I worked where we had a few international students from non asian countries. Of the women, there were white blonde european women from finland, sweden, and norway, that didn't even talk to the brunette canadian and just stuck together and left her to only talk to the guys and native students. You can't make this shit up. Race is just something that someone in a high position codified and used as a reason to discriminate and since then commoners have adopted it into how they interact but make no mistake about it, nothing is honkey dory when race is removed. People will people. ",
"Well that's just wrong. It's for show, they generally don't identify as women",
"That is **a** definition, another definition is a competition between two or more individuals won by accomplishing a determined goal in order; the importance here is *context*, we are the human **species**. ",
"You are absolutely correct. ",
"Not me. The Omnissiah knows all, comprehends all.",
"Lucatiel );",
"This is the simplest, most poignant protest sign ever.",
"When I say acknowledging I meant fixing the issues that still currently go on. I’m not even talking about shit from 200 years ago, I’m talking about things that are currently going on that have been happening for decades.",
"No doubt.\n\nWe'd do well to acknowledge that one more, too.",
"We're all insane, yeah.",
"Agree with the message, but poor choice of symbol as it just happens to have been used by multiple hate groups with the majority having been racially motivated. ",
"The thing is, each category we call a “Race” is diverse. What Americans think of as “Asian” breaks down to hundreds of different ethnic groups, of not more, that would almost never consider themselves “Asian.” It’s not that there are different looking people, which is true, it’s that the way we divide them into different racial groups is pretty much constructed. ",
"But all dogs are different breeds. Yeah this is gonna be a no from me",
"It's \"*racism-adjacent*\"\n\n(I'd like to add an /s but this is an actual term now, along with *rape-adjacent*; not only is criticism of rampant political correctness now deemed Wrongthink, so is espousing any idea deemed vaguely tangential to criticism of rampant political correctness)",
"Race is an excuse, not a cause. Greedy, bigoted people are responsible for those atrocities.",
"Except for straight white males apparently.",
"So instead of race we should use metrics like 'low-income people of historically African, or African-American descent'? Or 'women of Native American ethnicity'?\n\nAre you against the use of race in affirmative action/employment equity, or against the practice of affirmative hiring in general?",
"The idea is that you've personally benefited from racism in the past. So for example, say your grandpa got a promotion instead of a black coworker because the hiring boss was racist. This gave your father a better life, which then gave him advantages (say going to college or not having to work during high school), which then benefit you as their child. If you're complacent with these benefits you didn't earn, you're also complacent with the racism that gave them to you.\n\nSo it's not necessarily that *you're a racist*, but you *benefit from racism* and should generally keep that in mind and do what you can about it if you're not okay with it. I'm sure you can find articles or blogs framing the argument in a harsher way, but you can find people being crazy about a lot of valid stuff online.",
"As an anarcho-capitalist feminist who confuses the fuck out of people, I feel you ",
"This. Stop with the box checking in applications, stop with affirmative action, stop with the bs that brings attention to race and it wouldn't be an issue. ",
"Race is not meaningful biologically, as it does not tell you anything. Saying that everyone is different sounds cool, but does not confirm the idea of biological races. Dog breeds are a terrible analogy because they exist solely because humans have selectively bred them for thousands of years. It should be obvious that this is not the case for humans. \n\nThere is a reason science has moved away from races.",
"Yes, absolutely, identitarianism and racism are bad.\n\nSo, we should all also condemn the signs praising black women.",
"That's racist. We Orcs will not stand for this injustice.",
"Which ethnicity are you saying is suppose to be neanderthal right now?",
"To bad \"Every Man For Himself\" got nerfed into the ground.",
"How do you get upvotes with comments this long? ",
"One species: Man. Get to your head before the Decepticons show up!",
"Ha ha, yeah I guess it is. Doesn't have to be a giant squid though. ",
">I would like to point that is you are indeed what you claim, you are an outlier.\n\nI'm an outlier in many ways. That doesn't change the fact it's something anyone could have done.\n\n>Most people that are just above all the way to below the poverty line, rarely have that level of economic mobility because of the financial costs inherit in reaching a six figure lifestyle. \n\nIt's pretty easy in our society. Join the military, get free college, choose a major that has a high placement rate with good pay, and put in the time the whole way through.\n\nI ended up getting one bit of luck and that was that my dad decided to be a good parent and planned toward my success. He did the military part for me, and since he was a disabled vet I didn't need to enlist. Instead the DVA covered my costs and my loans went towards helping my dad with my brothers.\n\n>Yes, it can be done, but it isn't the rule but the exception.\n\nNo. The rule is that everyone can do it, but most people won't. The exceptions are the people who choose to put in the time and effort to do it.\n\nEveryone can be in shape, most people don't. The exceptions are the people who put in that time and effort.",
"I like this to my soul that fist could be the symbol of a united planet in the future. Look at it, everybody represented until some piece of trash comes along with whatever baggage and issues its carrying and ruins it for the 1%ters and I'm not talking about rich people your only the one percent because your piece of trash family tree fucked over somebody else by murder or land grab piece of trash no I'm taking about the only 1% who can actually live with every other human in harmony doesn't matter the custom. Live in peace because an asteroid is coming so we should have it figured out by then if we work together so free and high education is our only solution make everyone intelligent and healthy. Science and mind ",
"You just committed 1 racism. ",
"24 hour lemons. ",
"Because it ignores that fact that minorities are in many cases at a disadvantage in America",
"Focus.",
"Hm? Most mammals eat shit at some point. \n\nAnd by physical i meant damage or physical abnormality. As in, i don't think this is usually caused by anything physically wrong with the brain, but not sure. \n\n(Feel this is a good time to say it's not my fetish. I just like sexual psychology.)",
"Aren't human peasants the ones who say \"job done\" ? I believe orc peons say \"work complete\", as quoted by the commenter above",
"Okay I will now donate $5 to black people",
"This! This should be what we are all striving for. Color does not matter. We are all people.",
"Race ≠ species though",
"As much as I would want this to be true it isn’t the case. Race is not only a social construct. \n\nhttp://time.com/91081/what-science-says-about-race-and-genetics/\n\nJust read about it. It’ll be very eye opening for you.",
"Most problems in the world boil down to a lack of agreement about this.\n\nIdiots around the world see races other than their own as somehow inferior. The unaccomplished often see it as their sole source of pride and justification for feeling superior (looking at you, American south). \n\nWorse than that, it seems like MOST around the world are quick to devalue the lives of those that weren't born within the arbitrary borders of their own nation. \n\nSomeone killed in your own country? What a tragedy we need to do something! Someone killed in the country next door? Wow what a \"shithole!\" I'm glad those problems are happening over there.\n\nA lack of empathy in our species is the constant cause of war, crisis, suffering, and societal collapse.\n\nSadly, there's probably not a solution short of mass genetic modification, as it's intrinsic to humanity as a whole. Our propensity to join factions and need to hate a group of people we see as \"other\" seems to overcome any mitigation through education. ",
"Eowen is one of my favorite LotR characters for good reason.",
"I heartily disagree and this muddying of the waters is the reason the college I just attended literally made it a policy that staff are required to report harassment based on race/sex/orientation etc but excludes all minority groups from being included in that policy. Essentially they have it in writing that if you're not the more \"privileged\" person you can harass someone all you want without consequence.",
"Fucking orcs",
"It's not strange, it's a natural response to a white dominated racial hierarchy. ",
"Hehe. Cute but it's never ever going to happen. \nRace issues is the best thing a government can wish for.\nIt's perfect to justify wars and quite a few legislations.\nThe more divided we are, the better off they are.\nOpen your eyes kid.\nAnother important thing : it's a natural defense mechanism to fear/hate people who are different. \nHumans are turds.",
">I meant fixing the issues that still currently go on\n\nYou mean like being responsible and not choosing to fuck your life up for arbitrary reasons? That would be a good start i think.",
"That’s just plainly not true, something as simple as being born to a troubled family that didn’t properly care for you without others coming in to replace them will have dire effects.\n\nYou’re delusional if you think no matter how, where, and when a person is raised has no effect on their success. There are doors but not everyone has the tools to open those doors.\n\nAlso everyone gets special treatment because of their race, it’s called racism. Slavery was special treatment, Jim Crow was special treatment, the war on drugs is special treatment.",
"Curious how this will pan out once we have self-aware sentient robots...",
"Hawthorne effect. Even the act of being studied changes how you will act.",
"> so millions of black people are lying?\n\nBlack people have been taught that when things go wrong, it is white people's fault.\n\nSee what I did there? My generalization is just as valid as your generalization.\n\nAnyway, if there are all these injustices going on, it should be really, really, easy to provide some concise evidence to back it up. If you do so, great. File a lawsuit. I know there are some bad cops up there. Take them down through legal means.\n\n>But would you agree that Christianity is just as much of a terrorist organization as you claim BLM to be?\n\nIf you want to go ahead and point out 3 mass-killers who were **ideologically driven** by the teachings of Christianity in the last five years to commit terrorism in America, I'll view Christians in the same way I do BLM. \n\n",
"It is nothing but a classic play of divide and conquer by those who look to gain the most from infighting. Despots, monarchs, monopolists, business interests over people.\n\n\"look, your neighbor who's marginally different also wants a piece of the crumbs! Kill him! Kill him for his crumbs! Pay no attention to who has the whole cake!\"",
"And the fact that indigenous people are more prone to alcoholism and asians are more likely to be lactose intolerant. There are physical differences between races.",
"Except the initial statement wasn't valid nor true and the response was obviously sarcasm, sure.\n\nKeep going and you'll hit every moronic response available.",
"Just because we believe it (that we're all the same) doesn't mean everyone believes it. ",
">Brother Mouzoning with Ecthelion II\n\n\nMy fucking sides",
"\"*more work*???\"",
"Tldr: us not stem people also work hard.",
"Why not zoidberg?",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgBnB0341e4\n\nAre you sure about that? Or this arent REAL BLM?",
"believe they say both\n\nI was just playing wc 3 last night!",
"I would imagine actual discrimination is the majority of the problem. ",
"Islam is not a race. And not every white person is racist. Get a life. ",
"It was already absurd. Dude was just having some fun and you got your panties all bunched up over it! How does it feel to be the SJW PC cuck that you hate so much?",
"That’s because there’s less violence with white people and drugs than with black people. There’s rarely violence when frat guys buy weed and go party. A lot of drug charges with black men are a lot of the time apart of a group of charges.",
"Ah, but I disagree, because that's another phrase that is ignoring the issues at hand. *Of course* all lives matter. Who would deny such a truth? However, the point of saying \"Black lives matter\" is in response to the sad fact that it doesn't seem like people believe that they matter as much. One of the best rants about it I heard, and I can't remember who did it, was basically explaining the entire point is that it's really \"Black lives matter, TOO\" and that \"too\" is implied. However, a lot of people are upset because they think it means \"ONLY black lives matter\" and that's just not the point of the movement at all. That would be truly counter-productive.",
"auto collect made me chuckle",
"lok tar, bruv",
"> Race shouldn’t have any bearing over anyone’s assumed beliefs.\n\nAnd your counter to this is \"yes it should\"? They said that people shouldn't care about race (which, incidentally, would also knock out racism if it came to pass)",
"Found the grave robber and necrophiliac",
"Race is a loosely defined, rarely used designation that isn't included in any standard system of taxonomic hierarchy.",
"Having someone say that I need special attention because I'm at a disadvantage because I'm not white is not gonna work for me.\n\n Can't speak for the others nonwhite people but I would really prefer if you ignored the concept of race entirely. It doesn't exist. Racism exists. Racist people and systems need special attention.",
"You need to get the rights to publish a parody of LOTR in this writing style. Take my money now.",
"oh yea well next time you pretentious sjw redditors adopt a dog make sure its something ugly like a mutt or a pit or chihuahua. I wonder why most people dream of having a golden retriever or lab. Its because they are objectively superior companions than other races of dog. Same thing with humans, and denying it is anti-science.",
"It's certainly not easy, but explaining hard problems can't be done in meme-sized one-liners. \n\nIt's quite the paradox that explains why things always go to shit.",
"But your comment is boring...",
"99% of people that need to hear about social justice dont have a \"competent understanding\", and considering most people that do have had the luxury of going to college, this sentiment comes off as elitist. It's extremely conterproductive to keep using terminology from academia in discussions with laymen and then be suprised if they take you by your literal word (e.g. men as men in general vs. men as a category)",
"So... mosquitoes are basically nature's answer to vaccinations. Interesting concept. Due bad they can't get the dosing right and also spread diseases that kill a lot of people.",
"As a half-orc, I take offense to this. ",
"Wtf!? Why would they ~~have~~ hate people because of their skin color? You have serious problems.\n\nEdit: serious question, do you hate anyone because of their skin color?",
"Yeah, but enough people *don't* feel that way that we still need to acknowledge that it's still a problem.",
"I think that might actually be classed as institutional or systemic so very much a problem, I agree. Of course, there's arguments about \"which is worse\" but arguing the toss about which racism or sexism is okay defeats the entire purpose of any side of equality.",
"Daboo",
"\"Something be doing?\"",
"[And this](https://imgur.com/a/Pptaq) ",
"Please do so",
"Because I pointed out that people would still get treated differently, even if everyone considered each other one race? Sorry I'm not so naive. ",
"That’s a great way of describing it. \n\nJust how some people will always find marmalade gross, some fetishes that someone likes aren’t someone else’s cup of tea. ",
"And if you have a penis you're a double racist, unless you're a trans woman then you multiply your racism by negative pi.",
"Been saying this thinking I'm clever AF since high school. Everyone just thinks I'm dumb when I say it. Even though it's true",
"It's called species ",
"So... races?",
"Race and division is the democratic platform so that isnt happening.",
"Gentrification is a good thing though.",
"If it means anything no one escapes the tragedy that is to live in that world. Not even the main character has a happy ending.",
"What's a menu?",
"> And according to the article, the populations that became what are now Europeans, Africans, and Asians did come from the same ancestor\n\nCorrect, we all share *a common ancestor*, it's just that we don't all share *the same set of common ancestors*. \n\n> they just inter-mated with Neanderthals and Denisovans along the way. \n\nJust the Europeans and Asians. DNA is not a social construct.\n\n",
"Right. Race can be regarded as a social structure. Yet, I don't really want the current perception to be changed... change is uncomfortable.",
"\"Help! My house is on fire!\"\n\n\"All houses matter.\"",
"Why do we have laws? ",
"jfc it's the dictionary definition of racism:\n\n[Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism)\n\n>a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences **produce an inherent superiority of a particular race**\n\n[Oxford Dictionaries](https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/racism)\n> The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as **inferior or superior to another race or races.**\n\n",
"no u",
"Not even taking the crab people into account",
"Human is used to describe our species not individual races. \n\nWhy can’t anyone just agree with:\n\nBlack\nWhite\nBrown\nMixed \n\nIt’s like people are using there feels and not reals",
"This is the only race we can win",
"I identify as Ugandan Knuckles, how do I change my avatar?",
"what he's saying is, whenever a white person claims to be the victim of racism, it gets blown off as impossible.\n\nBecause to many, only non-caucasian people can be the victim of racism.",
"That's a species.",
"[One of my favorites](https://xkcd.com/598/)",
"*cough* asians *cough*",
"And this began the war of the reptilians against the humans. ",
"And just when I thought I needed to sleep...",
"Ok, and the point is darker people would still be treated differently. \"One race\" is naive. ",
"On a constant basis we have incidents like this https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/01/20/former-assistant-police-chief-urged-recruit-shoot-black-people-messages-sent-messages-urging-recruit/1050660001/ where people in power clearly demonstrate that they put their racism into action. While I agree that they didn't simply choose to have racist ideas, they do choose to do racist things. \n\nWe can't abolish divisive race by pretending that this stuff doesn't exist, but we may be able to by fighting *against* racism.",
"As offended, I'm a white male",
"For the Emperor!",
"wow, wat zijn we weer lief tegen elkaar?",
"No. \"Black lives matter\" is a linguistic trap meant to shut up anyone who disagrees with their very one-dimensional worldview that there is some kind of epidemic of police violence against blacks in this country.",
"There is genetic variation among humans, but when people say race is a social construct, it doesn't mean that there isn't. Rather, the categories we parse people into has nothing to do with actual genetic variation. Moreover, how many categories there are and what those categories are varies among cultures. ",
"Not really. \n\nNeanderthals are considered either a distinct species, Homo neanderthalensis,[15][16][17] or more rarely[18] a subspecies of Homo sapiens(H. s. neanderthalensis).[",
"https://i.imgur.com/ZCWdDcq.jpg",
"Cuts both ways. Of course racism is bad but when one race wants to separate itself from another then we get what we have today.",
"Scientifically speaking, humans are a species...",
"No, there is no future for non whites in the United States. ",
"Think I need to play more to confirm",
"Exactly. The only time skin color should be brought up is: sexual preferences, science and shit, and identification \n\nMaybe some other areas but those are just the ones off the top of my head",
"With the changes made to encourage passing, I think that it is the greatest race in the world. Being from Indy, I'm biased tho.",
"Replace race with religion, and somehow everybody gets pissed...",
"He's a corpsegod is what he is",
"Just explain that they're older terms, explain the history, not explaining it will probably just confuse her more.",
"Other animals are outraged by this and will be marching in protest tomorrow. So racist!",
"Most of us already are, we just don’t get TV coverage ",
"How can so many comments here be so pissed off toward such a neutral and sanitized message? \n\nWhen did \"racism is bad\" become controversial?",
">73% upvoted\n\nREEEEEEEEEEE",
"I was told there would be sex bots ",
"Dictionaries are where you begin to understand what words mean, not where you stop trying. ",
"Sorry is this what you guys are asking for in this thread?\n\nhttps://jenjdanna.com/blog/2012/7/10/forensics-101-race-determination-based-on-the-skull.html\n\nWatch an episode of Forensic Files, it's on Netflix and they do great stuff looking for victims who are no longer here to speak for themselves. It helps bring justice for people of all races.",
"[Also](https://i.imgur.com/V0FZENH.jpg)",
"What laws systematically disadvantage minorities?",
"You’re ignorant. Living in denial.\n\nPriding yourself on being progressive. But you’re progressing the agenda of George Soros and people like him.\n\nYou are sad. At least I am honest.",
"Or to see who can complete an objective the fastest.",
"Fuck that",
"The Emperor protects",
"stop talking about it, the more we talk about race and racism, the more we emphasize the existance of it and the more people can and will act according to it.",
"Dogs/Cats > Human",
"I have to wait 60 minutes in between any comments I make over there because I expressed conservative opinions too much and was down voted accordingly.",
"Institutionalized or systematic racism is a seperate concept from regular racism and pretending that the latter is non-existent hides part of the problem, and creates more because it gets people arguing about the definition of racism instead of the actual underlying issues behind racism.\n\nEdit:\n\n**Bigoted:** Belief in superiority of one's opinions and inferiority or dissenting opinions. Usually used in regards to racial issues.\n\n**Discrimination:** Preferential or prejudicial treatment based on a particular trait.\n\n**Racism:** Belief that one's race is superior to another.\n\n**Systematic racism:** When a race or minority is systematically and/or institutionaly treated with prejudice.\n\nIf anything, this movement to replace the definition of racism with systematic racism should be focused on the word discrimination. In my own opinion, the reason why they chose the word \"racism\" is that its a word with much stronger connotations than the alternatives. I'm on the same general side as you, I just think that because the term racism has an already societally accepted definition, any attempt to make it \"more accurate\" by redefining it only introduces pointless side discussion over semantics when there is a clear solution: at least acknowledging that there is a difference between racism and systematic racism because in order to discuss these topics its important that you are able to say exactly what you mean.",
"Humanism and the progress of Humanity as a whole has always been something I've backed. We cannot survive as a species unless we all work toward a greater good.",
"You made it sounds like everyone was treating brown people differently. My bad dude. Things dont translate well. ",
"It's upvoted for the same reason that T_D upvotes \"I'm a black Trump supporter\" comments.",
"That is definitely what people are referring to, albeit usually not knowingly. Most people know the age old fact that \"race\" is a misused term in this context. However, people still use it - justifiably I might insist - because it's convenient in the few cases where this type of specific categorization in this matter has utility. It's fast and everyone knows what you mean when the terminology is used. Or did you think every person who used the term \"race\" in the human context was actually trying to start a debate over semantics and geneology?\n\nE: I'll elaborate a little so I'm not misunderstood. What I mean by \"what people are referring to\" is that I think when people talk about \"race\", the closest thing to what they actually intended to speak of (in meaning, not verbally) is \"landrace\". \n\nVery rarely, or ever do I see people who argue against the technical semantics (as in \"the word in a scientific or a technical context should mean what I think it should mean\" IOW \"we should change the scientific definition of the word race\"). Similarily, you rarely encounter people who openly go against the scientific data in this matter (as in \"[insert color] people's genetics actually deviate from [insert another color] people's genetics more than the massive body of scientific evidence shows it to). Thirdly, the population of blatantly racist people is relatively low (although anything over 0% is too much).\n\nThis leaves is with the fourth option, which I described in my original comment and will elaborate shortly here. People use the word race as a convenience. It is mutually agreed within the majority that it doesn't refer to the technical term \"race\", but something more vague. Sure this vagueness takes away from the utility of the characterizaion, but if it's still used within non-racist people to further any conversation (which I adamantly believe it is), there is some use for it.",
"What. I never said anything near that",
"Futurama got a lot of things right, I think that we need to have the world under one leadership. Not have groups around the world only thinking of their own immediate best interest.",
"I disagree with this sign.\n\n\"Race\" doesnt exist if there is only one race. Race is a categorization term that humans have created to make distinctions between people of different physical traits, ancestry, genetics, and culture.\n\nThe **problem** with race, is people use it as a sole reason to do *harm* to others who are of a different race. But society does that with most every distriction we create (sex, religion, ideology, skin color, nationality, age, weight, physical appearance, intelligence, etc.).\n\nIt's long been said that being \"colorblind\" doesn't really solve the issues of racism. We should acknowledge how we are different, not ignore them. We just need to do a better job of not viewing \"different\" as being a negative attribute.",
"> I disagree with your point about the existence of races. They're not a tangible concept, they're just a categorisation used to define groups of people with the same physical/cultural traits and genes.\n\nAre we talking science or poetry? Because if it's the former - [Genomic Analyses of Modern Dog Breeds](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3559126/) (2012):\n\n> Calculating Wright’s F statistics based on the alleles the authors showed that more than one quarter of the genomic variation in the dog is found in differences between breeds rather than between individuals. Compare this number to the 5–10% of variation found between geographically distinct human populations and you find that dog breed definitions are more isolating than oceans. Using both a leave-one-out analysis involving a training set, and untutored clustering the dogs could be assigned to their breed of origin with up to 99% accuracy once again highlighting the extreme population stratification within the species.\n\nIf it's not clear enough, \"race\" in a scientific context means \"biological race\" and it's present in dogs, cats, horses, cows, etc.\n\nYou also write:\n\n> For example if you look at just a European man and an African man this is evident purely by the difference in skin tone.\n\nThose phenotypical differences are not enough to define biological races. Did you miss the part where I gave you two genetic criteria? We can read whole genomes now, so we're past the \"guess the genetic differences based on morphology and skin colour\" era.",
"I don't know why he didn't kill Isildur to save the world. Sounds like something an elf would do.",
"> Rather, the categories we parse people into has nothing to do with actual genetic variation. \n\nThat's objectively false and is why law enforcement can determine race by DNA samples. DNA is not a social construct.",
"Then the aliens show up and we can be bigoted against them!!! /s",
"Ted Cruz for human president. ",
"I’m certain you’ve never actually analyzed it.",
"DID U JUST ASSUME HER/HE/THEM POLITICAL VIEWS U BIGOT?????",
" It's a decent movie that could have used a different editor or someone to clean the script up that I'm hoping they expand on the universe. Will Smith isn't making a billion dollars a movie any more is he? Hell, more movies with other characters in the universe would be cool too.",
"I typically don't upvote and just scroll, but after reading some of these comments, I decided to upvote.",
"Does that study take in to account level of provocation? For instance someone resisting arrest or becoming violent.",
"Werk werk ",
"Thst's a species tho",
"Because they aren't \"anti-racist\" they're usually just tired of hearing about the white power structure that exists in America.\n\nEdit: Some of y'all really hate the truth man lol",
"DESTROY IT",
"Amen ",
"I'm a hypocrite for pointing out that people would still treat each other differently based on appearance? Explain. ",
"That was Tolkien's original plan, but he changed it because he felt Aragorn was to old. \n\nThe History of Middle-earth: the treason of Isengard talks about it.",
"Man I really hate this guy. I hate seeing him everywhere on this site. ",
"Anyone have a source for this sign? I want a print of it! ",
"Finally someone said it",
"Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. I'd rather avoid repeating slavery.",
"!redditgarlic\n\nExcellent rant",
"Thats dumb",
"My uncle died after a very long fight with brain cancer. Near the end, he couldn't remember my dad's name anymore.\n\nLucatiel is extremely meaningful to me.",
"Fuck yeah sister!",
">So instead of race we should use metrics like 'low-income people'\n\nFTFY. You're still putting race in there, which is exactly the problem. This amended statement would be better, but Affirmative Action in general is stupid.\n\n\n>Are you against the use of race in affirmative action/employment equity, or against the practice of affirmative hiring in general?\n\nI'm against affirmative hiring in general, because it's not a merit based hiring practice. Workers should be hired for who can best do the job, not to meet some kind of equity or misguided quotas.",
"He can't just call her a black woman if his goal is to feel artificially morally superior to someone on the internet",
"You're swell.",
"Its not a good message even today. \"Colorblindness\" isn't going to help address racism.",
"Want world peace?\nThats the way!!!",
"I thought it was going to be \"Fuck the New England Patriots\", but this is a good message too.",
"I think you took me a bit too seriously.",
"Is there interbreeding in *Bright*? Are there specific subraces, like the chavs at the disco or wood elves in some offscreen forest, or are they just elves with attitudes? Is there limited interbreeding like in some standard fantasy settings, with half-elves and half-orcs but no half-dwarfs or elvorcs? Do all of our world's human ethnicities exist or have some been replaced/supplanted by the fantasy races?\n\n(I've seen most of the movie, but only while half asleep.)",
" You have anal sex and you get a doo doo baby. ",
"> This is a message to put an end to discrimination, not a scientific message. Over analyzing much?\n\nSomebody needs to, or boastful ignorance is going to win in the end.",
"Well white people already won by being born white so I don't see why they should win anymore.\n\n /s",
"Whoa whoa whoa saying muslims arent a race is exactly what an islamiphobic^tm racist would say. You're on thin ice and clearly a white. I can smell your disgusting whiteness from here. Gross.",
"Species but ok",
"TIL mosquitos are pollinators and not just disease ridden hematophages",
"Wait, she used green ink? I hate green people. They're all either seasick or envious. All the others I'm cool with.",
"I would pay for a book written like this. ",
"Something need doing?",
"We actually come out of mosaics.",
"It's easy? How do you do it?",
"Now..speaking as black person I have to say this woman is stuck in the \"sunken place\". There are many people both white and non white that do no want this.",
"So those like 2 gene strand sub sections?",
" Wait until death and the body consents voraciously. ",
"This is the best answer. ",
"it dosent matter\n\nyou cannot sit here and tell me that because one does not have \"power\" over another that they cant be racist\n\n\nno, sorry that's not how it works",
"To these people, pointing out racism is the real racism ",
"This wasn't even a hidden fact. Even all the old documentarys i watched on the experiment made that pretty clear.",
"I agree with what this sign is trying to convey but Biologically speaking the sign is wrong. If it said \"One Species: Human\" then yeah it'd make sense but the biological definition of race is;\n\"a population within a species that is distinct in some way, especially a subspecies.\"\n\nMeaning there is not one race; rather one species ",
"Unless you’re a white, conservative, Christian.",
"Yep. #alllivesmatter 🙄",
"☹️",
"While that is true we don't parse people into races on the basis of having these DNA sequences. Furthermore, many people who would be classified as black based on superficial appearance have white ancestry, so that they would have Neanderthal genetic sequences. Ultimately, how we parse people into racial categories does not follow genetic sequences, and varies in different cultures, which indicates that race is a social construct. ",
"https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/01/19/world/europe/fox-news-apologizes-for-false-claims-of-muslim-only-areas-in-england-and-france.html?referer=https://www.google.com/\n\n\nHere is a link that talks about Fox News’ on air apology for pushing the false no go zones. Oh also the ambassador had to apologize.\n\nBut that would contradict your fragile little echo chamber. I’m not an apologist I just allow facts to shape my world view and not my feelings.",
"You have yet to pose any facts. If your case is so obvious then it should be beyond easy to at least provide one factoid",
"The fact that we're not already there is really sad.",
"Sounds like some people are better at hiding their drugs than others. ",
">Anyway, if there are all these injustices going on, it should be really, really, easy to provide some concise evidence to back it up.\n\nWhat evidence would be satisfactory to you?\n\n>File a lawsuit.\n\nBut if there is systemic racism in the justice system, wouldn't the entire problem be that filing a lawsuit would do no good?\n\n>If you want to go ahead and point out 3 mass-killers who were ideologically driven by the teachings of Christianity in the last five years to commit terrorism in America, I'll view Christians in the same way I do BLM.\n\nUhhh ... how about every murder committed by the KKK? Or the guy who shot up the Planned Parenthood? Or all the murders of people from abortion clinics since the 80s?",
"When you say \"color-blind\" anti-racist whites are you talking about people who actually don't think of race, or people who say things like \"all lives matter\"? There's a big difference between not being concerned with race, and not being concerned with rac*ism*.",
"Dabu!",
"There are subs that ban people and content (cough cough t_d). Go there. It's insincere because you say it's garbage but then you wallow in it and your own self arrogance. It's a beautiful message and the democracy of Reddit up voted it. Stop whining.",
"You think his lobster comparison is about racial hierarchy? ",
"> And if I should need to bend down to retrieve a fallen lemon...\n\nI was not expecting to laugh this hard today. ",
"r/toyallynotrobots",
"Is that closer to a 5k or a marathon? I’m bad with conversions. ",
"\"Genetically speaking\". . \n\nYou say humans are different(African descent versus the rest) because of interbreeding but then later on you finally say yes humans are in fact humans but with genetic variations. Either you're trolling or you don't understand fully what you are talking about. ",
"Within my adult life, that's how it felt up until around the time Obama stated \"if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon.\" That was the year it all went to shit. ",
"> There are a billion things that are social concepts, and they are real. \n\nokay. i didn't argue otherwise.",
">You can \"believe\" that the golden rule exists, but it doesn't. \n\n\"You should be the change you wish to see in the world.\" -- Gandhi",
"That place is terrible. I unsubscribe then see an interesting topic and go back. It's always a mistake.",
"America won't get better until ya'll embrace this message. ",
"I mean, people fabricate their entire social lives to make superficial posts on social media websites for likes and retweets, so I’d say yes to your second question.",
"I guess there’s also one gender. And one hair color, and one eye color as well.",
"race is real though, our species is human. ",
"I'm not pretending it doesn't exist, I'm saying that it's not related to the systemic racism that is usually being discussed when these kinds of arguments arise.",
"I don't agree with your wording and I probably am adding my own influence into what you're saying but we learn \"Black History\" for a month about slavery and that's all. If there were proper history curriculums it would honestly be so much better for everyone in school.\n\nSlavery is an important topic to learn about, but not alone and it should be taught alongside positive histories of other countries. Saying \"you can't talk about it\" might be like taking away someone's history and knowledge of their roots. \n\nI saw a professor talk at my uni for Black History month. He showed a picture of the queen and was asking if showing her represents the time of her reign, same for all white British people and non slaves in times of slavery too. ",
"On my way",
"I was just scrolling down and saw “ one piece”",
"Tarkus would have a word over strongest ally.\n\nAs would Patches, Sigmeyer, Gotthard, Eygon and Tsorig.",
"You understand that unjustified police shootings in the US are almost nonexistent right?",
"Nah. Too empathetic and optimistic. I'll stick to the good ol' \"death to all humanity\" temperament.",
"More like:\n\n>One Race: The Rat",
"thats not what i said, now, is it?",
"There are no doors, the only limit is you. Circumstance can make it harder or easier, but there's always choices available to you in this country.\n\n>Also everyone gets special treatment because of their race, it’s called racism.\n\nNot everyone, and I'm saying nobody should.\n\n>The war on drugs is special treatment.\n\nThat's the most retarded thing I've heard today, congrats.",
"Take socioeconomic status of black people in the USA as an example.\nIf I went at it without any historic understanding I would find black people to generally be poorer, more often involved in crime and generally less educated. I would then understandably draw the conclusion that this is somehow part of having black skin.\n\nOf course, that conclusion is utter bullshit, but Nazis still love bringing that up. They love ignoring all the historic shit that put black people into that shitty place in the first place.",
"I still can't wrap my head around using race as an insult. \n\n",
">Joe Apprio",
"I'd be okay with zug zug orcs... let's hope we don't get WAAAAGH! orks.",
"We don't know. The world they built is cool and I'd love to see more of it. It would make a cool game or TV show. ",
"Yours are boringer.",
"#YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS",
"Well I keep hearing that cacao plants are going to die out by 20X0 so that's the day we get to kill all mosquitoes I guess.",
"Enjoy your bubble",
"Well, there is - but it's targeting whites and Asians. That is literally the only systemic racism that exists in the US today.",
"Actually that's how most people feel. believe it or not, most people are just trying to live their lives, and couldn't give a shit less about your social agendas.",
"I don't want to start anything but isn't that what \"all lives matter\" has meant this whole time? ",
"You are, though. It should anger you! You should want this system dismantled.",
"Oh man you caught one incident of a small, uncountable number of people doing something. This is 100% solid evidence that the hundreds of thousands of members of BLM do this and that it's their official motto.",
"Why does the responsibility fall down to the child if the one being racist was his/her grandfather’s boss?\n\nCan you really say with a straight face that white people being more successful because they work hard is because of their privileges when they have the same chance as everybody else?\n\nSay a white kid and a Black & Hispanic & Asian kid all sitting in a classroom together. The white kid is diligent while the Asian and Hispanic are quite lazy. The black kid is doing average. By your logic it’s because of his/her privileges if the white kid is doing well on tests while the others are doing average/poorly.",
"I think it was more the context than the actual message. While saying all lives matter is fine by itself, a bunch of white people getting together to try and overshadow black lives matter comes off as being super petty about not getting the spotlight. ",
"It's really not. As an example, [this](http://cdn.ofuxico.com.br/img/upload/aniversariantes/2012/06/29/928_251.jpg) Samba singer would be categorized by the vast majority of people as black, yet he is 67% of European descent. \n\nAs another example, in Brazil and other countries in South America, they have completely different racial categories than what you see in the US. ",
"I guess maybe I don't understand your point then. Sure, populations of humans have genetic differences. But how does that apply to the socially constructed idea of race? Gene flow is very high in humans. If a white European procreates with a black African, their offspring will have *another* set of common ancestors. The genetic variance between what our social systems have defined as races is sometimes lower than the variance between two populations of the same race",
"except there are biological differences? Why are golden retrievers and labradors two different races if black people and Asian people are the same race? ",
"Don’t even get me started on those goblins",
"Touché if you are defining the rule as what people can do, then yes that is true.\n\nBut as far as socio-economic studies go, the rule is that most don't have the economic mobility that you have.",
"It is this simple. ",
"I mean, the homicide rate is also dramatically different by race of the killer. Using 2013 numbers, there were about 2700 homicides committed by white offenders, and about 2700 homicides committed by black offenders.\n\nThat's with whites representing 74% of the population and blacks representing 13% of the population.\n\n\nhttps://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls\n\n\nI think it's obvious that this reflects more complex issues (urban areas, poverty, etc) and shouldn't be used to make statements about people just because of their race, but using drug statistics seems intellectually dishonest, as well as also dismissive of how black men, in particular, represent a large portion of homicide victims. This is also isn't me saying that we shouldn't be concerned about the people that I think are unjustly killed by cops (of any race/ethnicity).",
"Wrong.",
"> healthcare diagnosis and porn filters.\n\nGreat name for a punk album. ",
"What about us Lizard People? We live here too!",
"Me and my friends stuck out to the family computer room and googled boobs in the middle of the night and my mom walked in. I was ten.",
"Cuz history cannot be told to support a certain way of thinking",
"Also the Indianapolis 500.",
"Everyone is trash except you. Thank god for sending the messiah u/fyberoptyk back to enlighten us.",
"Cool",
">I'm sorry you grew up with an incorrect understanding of this\n\nYou're trying to convince people to change their mind on something, but completely dismissing their viewpoint, especially as they're backing up their definitions with a dictionary and... you're not.\n\nIf you want to convince people of something, hear them out. Don't just dismiss them and then be condescending, makes you look like a bit of an ass.",
"It's equally as stupid and ignorant as racism. Ignoring race is ignoring different cultures, histories, ideals, struggles, and successes. ",
"Are we positive this guy doesn’t have tens of thousands of bots upvoting his content? It’s asinine how often he hits the front page.",
"[Whenever someone refers to a woman as a \"female\".](http://www.startrek.com/legacy_media/images/200303/tng-221-scheming-ferengi-qol-a/320x240.jpg)",
"Cringe",
"I don't see gender, so I assume you say \"minority\" because it's a minor?",
">Hm? Most mammals eat shit at some point.\n\nyou don't seem to understand the difference between particulate and actually eating shit... \n\nits a little disturbing. \n\nmaybe google what the side effects are of that for people before you get e coli. ",
"Treating everyone as individuals and with respect will lead to a more just society than trying to give some groups advantages for things that happen in the past and hoping it all works out. We’re seeing that right now in trends of men vs women, but feminism is still being largely promoted and men’s rights groups are still viewed negatively. ",
"It's not political unless someone has politicized it. This happens when someone disagrees with a belief or statement for whatever reason.\n\nSo to clarify. STOP POLITICIZING HUMAN RIGHTS GOD DAMMIT.\n",
"But what about that Google lady who identifies as a flightless dragon? ",
"Yep I came here to say this. It's now the mantra of those who attend these protests and the modern day liberals and progressives to claim that this is incredibly racist. They are so backwards it's unbelievable. ",
"boom. yes. correct.",
"There shouldn't be race. People should be divided between shitty people and not shitty people ",
"I'm in West Virginia, a very typically racist and backwoods area. Even my tiny town of 300, most of which are elderly, have been extremely accepting. Up until he left office two years ago we had repeatedly voted in a half black, openly gay mayor who is still a very important part of our community. Don't ever blame ignorance on location, you're just giving them an excuse for racism. If my 75 year old grandmother, born and raised in one of the most backward states in the nation, can put aside race, sexuality, etc. then no one else has any excuse. Don't brush it aside because of where they spend their time. Do not make excuses for those subhuman pieces of shit. ",
"Let me show you what a real orc can do!",
"As a white, straight, male I can not hold this sign because then I would be making less of BLM or something else. People really hate us right now even though I've never personally been a dick to anyone on purpose.",
"As opposed to a drive by shitting",
"No, there’s lots of adults who don’t autistically scream about their own problems every time someone else brings theirs up.\n\nThat’s something any normal adult can do. And anyone who can’t do it should be ignored because they’re nothing and they’ll never have anything worthwhile to contribute to anything or anyone.",
"My first thought was: \"What about the orcs though?!\"",
"Would you consider it acceptable if the police were killing around 100 black men each year? This would be proportional with the number of white men they kill each year.",
"I agree with this. But I don’t think the majority of reddit agrees with this in the same way that I do.",
"Yeah but I’m glad he saved me a really questionable google search",
"Men....men are weak.",
"Wow, 18%? That's a lot of racist, sexist people on Reddit, who else other than those people would downvote this message? Other than people who accidentally press the downvote button",
"It can determine that you have specific sequences that are more common in various ethnic groups, but says nothing about what you actually look like. For instance, you may look like [this](http://cdn.ofuxico.com.br/img/upload/aniversariantes/2012/06/29/928_251.jpg) but have a majority of sequences come from European descent. ",
"if people are no longer holding their tongues about the horrible shit Jewish people are responsible for, that's societal progress not a trend. even if one specific Jewish person doesn't actively participate in systemic oppression, that person still benefits from it, and a lot of Jewish people are now recognizing that. that's why it's \"trendy\" for Jewish people to \"hate\" on themselves.\n\nDo you see how absurd that sounds?\n\n",
"You should treat everyone equally, but ignoring someone's ethnicity or heritage is probably rude. You can acknowledge that someone is a different race than you without treating them differently, so there's no need to be \"color blind\" and act like everyone is the same race. At least, that's how I see it.\n\nEdit: I meant culture, not race. Race is largely a social construct, as the only differences between different races is appearance and a few things like blood types I think (if anyone is confused I don’t mind explaining)",
"So brave. ",
"> I learned long ago not to waste my time arguing\n\nYour comments prove this statement wrong",
"Reddit is not constrained to the United States. And the United States is not the center of the world.",
"The problem is that race has been made real in this world. It affects non white people negatively in every aspect of their lives. To suddenly ignore it wouldn't fix the problems, it would allow them to fester and intensify, undiagnosed and untreated. Unfortunately, acknowledging race and racism are necessary if we are ever going to fix these problems.",
"Yeah seriously, fuck that guy. I hope he meets someone he truly loves, just to have them be a devoted partner for the rest of his life. Fuckin asshole.",
"But how will liberals cry about racism and discrimination to get what they want if everyone stops caring about race.",
"Yeah I can totally greet behind that",
"They are genetically different as i have explained already. Im trying to figure out how you got from that to.\n\n\" Which ethnicity are you saying is suppose to be neanderthal right now? \"\n\nWhat? No one. No one said there are neanderthals walking around. What are you talking about lmao.",
"Lucatiel has over 8500 HP and uses a sped up straight sword moveset with her greatsword.\n\nIn terms of raw strength, Tarkus and Vengarl outclass her, but she's faster than either of them and just as durable.\n\nAlso, in terms of more...she's a champion fencer who fences with a 10-pound greatsword. That takes enormous strength and skill. The only one who even competes with her ability is Solaire.",
"Why?\nnow why am i getting downvoted? im asking a question, why do people not like gallowboob?",
"I've yet to see an alien movie where the aliens are heavily segregated within different regions. They're always fighting together as one. So why are humans so divided and segregated? We should be together as one ",
"I think there's a bit of a loss in translation between the two sides.\n\nThe people protesting police shootings of black men under the banner of \"black lives matter\" are generally awesome people who are pointing out some systemic abuse that black men have been experiencing at the hands of the system.\n\nThe people saying \"all lives matter\" by-and-large started as a response to that by saying \"But wait, there are a lot of unjustified police shootings that aren't inflicted on black men. Maybe we should get police to stop shooting first and asking questions later.\" Naturally, a few loud voices on the BLM side took this to be racist, rather than embracing people supporting a similar idea that the police kill *way too many people*.\n\nAs a result, you got this sense of animosity between the two groups, who both have pretty uncontroversial views, who now hate each other despite *literally wanting the same thing*.",
"One sex! Humans!",
"\"But then I couldn't justify my retarded childish narcissism and excuse my bad behavior and garbage personality by pretending that i'm a victim of the sparse persecution that I go out of my way to help feed, nurture and spread by being the most good for nothing stereotypical piece of shit on the planet so that I can feed my victim complex!\"\n\n~ Every pea brained parasite on the planet who dwells on stupid shit like race.",
"I don't see where that proves what you claimed.",
"No, we shouldn't. But sometimes that's the only way we can reach out to the idiots.",
"It will be great when we are all one race, but until that’s actually a reality, then racism IS a problem and we should see and understand culture and color. We just have to dismantle the racist system that puts lighter skin higher on the hierarchy than darker skin.",
"What people mean when they refer to race is ethnicity. And I don't care about policing language. I care about understanding what people mean.",
"I mean. The original study tried saying that everyone has a natural tendency towards bad if given the power. Not that people will do bad things if you tell them they're supposed to and the other people involved can back out whenever they want and they know you're supposed to be mean to them and they're supposed to deal with it for the sake of science and the greater good. ",
"The activist equivalent of “Our thoughts and prayers are with X at this time”.",
"Um excuse me, I’m a bisexual Martian an this sign is very offensive to my people and our culture.",
"*massive woosh*",
"I responded to inform you it's a Warhammer quote since you responded with 'Relax' and also down voted me. Just responded to let you know I wasn't serious and just joking. But you don't strike me as a fun guy so later man.",
"I've been saying for over 20 years that I'm the only true racist. I believe in only one race, the human race, and I hate every god damn one of us.",
"I love this. Everything's been so polarized lately, it's good to remind ourselves that we're all in this together!",
"But what about the Wookiees?",
"Well, I know poor white people who are disenfranchised as well, and I feel the same way for them. I thought that was a reasonable way to express that, but you did successfully point out an error in my logic. I guess at least 1 difference is that being a nudist is a choice. Another is that nudists aren't historically economically disenfranchised.",
"That's a subjective interpretation of the phrase though. The plain speech is encompassing everyone with the word \"all\". If they were discrediting the BLM movement they'd say \"White lives matter\". How is this girls sign different than the all lives matter sign?",
"I agree 99%, \n\nbut why the hell would we want to go to NY?",
"In many cases I would agree with you. In all cases? No way. I would rather us not use something as arbitrary as race or color when defining more concrete concepts",
"Dude either pose an argument or take your L",
"Under the proletarian fist ? Or is it the other fist? No thank you I’ll go with the Aliens. ",
"> What evidence would be satisfactory to you?\n\nwell, here is a Harvard study for example, saying that blacks and whites are shot at about the same rate (this despite blacks committing way more crime according to DoJ)\n\nhttp://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/test-9\n\nSomething like that would suffice as evidence.\n\n>But if there is systemic racism in the justice system\n\nYou are basing this on what? \n\nDid you know the sentencing gap between men and women is 6 times larger than the sentencing gap between white and black?\n\nI doubt you do, because we focus on one and ignore the other.....for some reason.....\n\n>Uhhh ... how about every murder committed by the KKK?\n\nSo, you are linking the KKK to Christianity? I mean, why stop there? Nazis were Christian too. \n\nA racist person who happens to be Christian is not proof that Christianity is an evil Ideology (though it probably is)\n\nWhat matters is the ideological drive to commit murder. \n\nThe KKK's is based on race. In the case of abortion Clinics, the people are driven by the belief that fetuses are human babies. The belief that fetuses are human babies is a part of Christianity, but it is also a debate that has not been finalized by science. Fetuses may, in fact, be human babies. If you believed they are wouldn't you want to murder those who were killing babies?\n\nThe point is to find the ideological root of something.\n\nSo, here comes BLM ---- their ideological root is, cops are evil, the system is racist, we should be scared enough for our lives to commit violence in response.\n\nThat is a pretty clear cut case of an insane, indefensible ideology. And yet you keep defending it. Maybe your view of the ideology is different than mine.\n\n\n\n\n",
"> Racism is systemic and omnipresent,\n\nStrongly disagree. Individual people are racist, that’s it. Claiming that racism is “systemic” only furthers racist ideas.",
"Problem is that it's such a general statement it doesn't offer any solutions on hard issues.\n\nCrime rate and poverty is higher i black people? \n\nOne race: Human, guise. Like share and subscribe <3 <3 <3",
"And yet she draws a fist that represents “black power” the same thing used by black supremacy groups like the Blank Panther Party...\n\nI’m all for the idea of all races being equal, and I’ll fight for it. But be smarter about the symbols you use.",
"\"Relax\" is just a quote from A Frankie Goes to Hollywood song. Relax.",
"What part of it's not my fetish, I'm just here to put out a semi informed opinion because the question was asked, do you not fucking understand...?\n\n",
"I love how this can apply to: Warcraft, warhammer, warhammer 40k, Bright, LOTR.....",
"SHHHHH!",
"\n\n\n>Explain to me why it’s ok to openly hate white people and praise this woman for holding this sign, while if a white person had this exact same sign up he would either get no attention, or it would be flooded with mobs of people calling him racist for no reason other than his skin. \n\nThat's not a thing. \n\nI guarantee it would be flooded with nothing worse than \"About time\"\n\n>What happened to judging people as individuals? Learn to fairly articulate the situation and think as an individual. Before you say it, no I am not white. I am just aware enough to understand that there is a ridiculous double standard.\n\nWe still do, but we can talk about demographics as well. ",
"Yes exactly this . ",
"that would be necro, not copro",
"So is it different for everyone? I was temporarily banned for the same. I am allowed to post like every 10 minutes or something.",
"Now, tell me, what numbers actually commit violent crimes.\n\nIn before \"the statistics I just quoted are misleading\" defense.",
"If only the SJW crowd would understand this. You can't solve the problem if you keep bringing it up every two sentences. There needs to be time for things to play out naturally, for historical and traditional sentiments to fade to the background, for new, for alternative symbols to arise and find acceptance. If it wasn't for the SJWs race would no longer be an issue in a 100 years.",
"See this right here is a fucking great person. Someone with no hate towards other races and accepts all human beings.",
"Yeah, just look at the Mass Effect series. All of the intergalactic alien races think we, as humans, are a bunch of high, mighty racists who can't have nice things. ",
"> I know of no people who identify with BLM who have accepted those murderers as part of the movement,\n\nDoes it count if they identify themselves and accept each other? I've never heard of any formal membership to be part of BLM.\n\n> nor has there been any link, AFAIK, between the murderers and any organized group of BLM.\n\nWhat make an organised group of BLM? There's apparently no leadership, so why can't the shooters call themselves an organised group?",
"Legit for a second thought there was a hammer and sickle",
"meh, we need a common enemy that threaten the entire world, a real bad one like inminent exinction to make everybody unite under a single flag., Like global warming!.. o wait..... nope, that wont work either.",
"The only reason we use the word \"racism\" is to describe the systematic oppression of formerly subjugated peoples in post-colonial society. That's how it came into common usage and the only context where it's relevant. There was no such word prior to the waning days of colonialism. There is a strong impulse to try to generalize the word because it ends in \"-ism,\" but the only effect of doing so is to water down the one relevant usage. The purpose of doing so is usually to ignore, deny or deflect attention from the real phenomenon, either out of discomfort or with the intent of perpetuating it. ",
"They aren't a minority, but they have been collectively oppressed for centuries. ",
">about the horrible shit White people are responsible for\n\nShit that no white person alive today was part of, influenced, nor directly benefited from.\n\nYou can fuck off with that racism.",
"And this is why /s had to be introduced",
"Ignoring? Or accepting?",
">, just like I did.\n\nI'm sorry, again, my intention is to educate and not dismiss. What people are saying to me here has all the echoes of me pre-2009 or so. Old me would have been with you on this. Current me is just not, and it's not like you're presenting anything new to me. Can you believe several people have literally linked me to the dictionary to try and make this pedantics because they are only seeing the surface of it? I won't assume you're like that, you seem like a good guy, but have you really heard out the other side from where you seem to be standing?\n\nI went through a difficult time of self-reflection and education, and not everyone is going to always agree, but there are some things worth standing up for, and I just always feel like I want to stand up for causes that are misunderstood or mischaracterized. This is a field where misinformation runs rampant as the old order struggles to maintain control and comfort.",
"Unless if you say “Asian” to a British person they would assume South Asian, whereas to an American you’d assume East Asian. Further illustrating how arbitrary it all is. \n\nPhysical descriptors like skin colour (distinct concept from race) can occasionally be helpful though you’re right. Doesn’t mean race isn’t a social construct often built on bizarre and arbitrary concepts.",
"ALM boys are fucking mental like seriously they can take it down a notch ",
"[I disagree completely] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2d2SzRZvsQ)",
"It's a shitty and shallow message. Why don't we face the facts humans are different in physical appearances and cultures. It's much better to embrace own differences while acknowledging others to ultimately get along.",
"Oh shit, really?! That's pretty cool! Are those books worth reading? ",
"Is not one small number of people, groups of supposed BLM did this multiple times. So it not really obvious what they mean is it?",
"do you not fucking understand the downsides to eating shit or something? \n\njust trying to figure that out... since you keep minimizing it. ",
"I’m not trying to take a side, but many people would argue that we still need to acknowledge multiple “races” because the ones that have been oppressed still need to protected from racism. I do wish we could just drop this whole race thing and just treat skin color like eye color, but then that just makes me sound too much like the whole “all lives matter” thing. I wish things weren’t so complicated :(",
"There is racism in our society, and we can't ignore that. Some peopls have privilegies because they're white and european. We can't stop thinking about racism. That'd be a great mistake. We need to act to end racism and we need to recognize some people have it rough just because they aren't white or North American/European. \n\n",
"Does race not exist or are all white people evil racists? \n\nMake up your minds.",
"There is an entire sub dedicated to doing exactly what your post did: r/menkampf/",
"Then why is \"all lives matter\" so controversial?",
"ARE YOU TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE BLACK EXPERIENCE?!\n\nEducate yourself.",
"lok'tar ogar",
"I think it should be talked about eventually, of course. I don’t think it should be introduced to a 5 year old out of the blue one day without context, and then dropped for a few years.",
"why thankyou. you should meet the wesh/irish mixes. theyre even better. ",
"I said this and was called a racist... I lost a lot of hope for our species that day.",
"White person moves into a majority minority neighborhood it's gentrification. Move out and it's white flight. ",
"A questioning mind betrays a treacherous soul, citizen. Care that you do not stray from the Emperor's light.",
"Kloh-dook",
"You will never see mainstream media support that. They love divisional hate.",
"No, but the idea that \"hierarchy\" in itself is something he might challenge. Part of the problem with racism is hierarchy, no doubt, but it is not the root cause of the problem. To get to the root, don't attack race hierarchy, *but rather the notion of \"race\" itself.* As the sign says, there is only one race. The notion that we are anything but one species is where the trouble comes in. Hierarchy isn't really a substantive part of the problem -- the root of it is the the thought that there are essential significant differences within sub groups of the human species based on melanin and other obvious phenotype-level differences upon which sorting filters of various of hierarchies can be justified. \n\n",
"I myself am wary of the term 'color blind' because it implies that everybody is the same. Whereas in reality, people belong to cultures with different norms. And understanding these norms requires recognizing and appreciating the differences between groups of people.",
"It is okay to talk about races. THe difference is that a dog's is defined by its looks. All corgis are short and kinda long by definition. That doesn't happen with people. The only thing that defines race is skin color.\n\nAnd when it comes to what isn't allowed (categorizing people via race) is because humans aren't animals. It's socially acceptable to put down your dog because of vet bills. It's relatively socially acceptable to breed dogs for profit or for certain features (even physical ones). though that is changing. ",
"All humans suck. ",
"Bullshit. Show me an instance of racism causing inequality and I’ll show you **one** racist individual. Saying that racism is *systemic* without any evidence whatsoever only furthers racist ideas. ",
"WTF I’m 4% Neanderthal. \n\n\n\n\nThis is a joke. ",
"Itty bitty keyboards",
"Exactly, that is the only race needs to be annihilated.",
"Really because downvotes tell another story",
"Text is printed. The design is fine though.",
"[theres that word privilege again] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5DIE6dcY5E)",
"Humans are a species. It's not a race. ",
"This concept isn’t all that popular anymore. ",
"It’s also going against the grain of what most college liberals think about race and culture, they believe colorblindness is not a valid way to navigate social interactions due to ‘differences in lifestyle, and hardship’. \n\nI learned it in a class, I don’t necessarily agree because it makes it harder to treat everyone the same.\n\nEdit:\nI don’t understand how pointing out what I learned in class doesn’t add to the discussion. ",
"Everyone already is. But liberals want you to think people aren’t so they can stay in power. ",
"Then you’ve got a stew goin’. ",
"Scientifically accurate Homo Erectus Erectus",
"Well, I personally get furious when people in the states with high urban populations try to make blanket economic policies that affect lower-population density states without actually listening to people who live in them. I'd imagine that people feel the same way when their communities are largely people of color. \n\nJust the other day a high-ranking police officer was called out for telling new officers to shoot suspects if they're black. I'm not even kidding. Those are the people in power making decisions. There's probably a balance to be struck between sweeping that all under the rug and going too far the other way, and maybe at UC Berkeley they've swung too far the other way, but we have not in my city in the heart of trump country, I will tell you that.",
"Not really, the All Lives Matter is whataboutism protest, where opposing factions try to derail the discussion of shedding lights into systematic race issues faced by the colored community by interjecting the All Lives Matter messages. I doubt most ALM supporters actually genuinely support the notion.",
"Wouldn't this be more culture instead of race? Respect peoples' cultures and heritage, but don't define them by their race. At least in my understanding, race is just biology/certain features; for example, a black guy whose family has lived in Sweden for a few generations would be Swedish, not Swedish-African. Or do I have this backward? \n\n",
"> Nazis\n\nThey don't exist anymore. Calling yourself something, doesn't mean you are, even if you sympathize with their views.\n\n>If I went at it without any historic understanding I would find black people to generally be poorer, more often involved in crime and generally less educated\n\nSure, so were other immigrants, who were oppressed. But also your poor uneducated (whoever you choose). Still has mountains of privilege more than say, that factory worker in shenzen who works 16 hour days.",
"Yeah, I can't get behind that backwards logic at all. If they want to ignore racism, just say so. ",
"You're not alone, kid. People thought Asians had sideways vaginas up until a decade or two ago. ",
"There are several ways in which scientists have broken down races, and there's probably no single correct way to do it, but we can start with the following: East Asian, American (referring to the continent), Caucasian/European, African, and Oceanian.\n\nAnd you should lose the snarky attitude when entering a debate, it just makes you look intellectually weak. \n\nhttp://www.pnas.org/content/94/15/7719.full",
"Why?",
"All for it!",
"For all the great things Jackson accomplished with those movies, I'll also always hate him for stripping the depth from Legolas and Gimi just to make them \"lol Get a a load of these two, amirite?!\"",
"> If I do judge people by race, I'm a racist. If I don't judge people by race, I'm ignoring my responsiblity and am racist\n\nThis is a false dichotomy if you have a view of racism as systemic rather than as merely something people do to each other. With this perspective you can not judge people by race (something *you* personally do to other people) and still acknowledge that we have systems in place that oppress groups by racial demographics.",
"Yep all lives matter ",
"Yeah well what the fuck you gonna do about it? You giving black folks money? How about some college education? Y’all held us as fuckin slaves for 400 god damn years and you ain’t paid us a fuckin CENT for all that mutherfuxking labor... DO SOMETHING WHITE BOY. STOP TALKING.",
"To protect the rights of people. ",
"I prefer Earthling. ",
"Me not that kind of orc!",
">~~its~~\n\nShklrr's",
"I'll take that deal. ",
"There would still be people wearing orc hats protesting for their rights.",
"skin colour =/= culture",
"Be safe, friend.",
"There might be bots, but he has thousands of real followers. So as soon as he posts something new, all of his followers see it and upvote it. This gets it trending, then it takes off from there.",
"Too bad half the country thinks they're race is superior and vice versa.",
"> far worst",
"Lets go team human!!",
"except its just plain not true, its hard to get people behind movements that arents true",
"Yes. So often is the real problem not discussed because of typical dumbassery.\n\nSo many times do I hear or read \"All those ______ are a bunch of ______\"\n\nIt's as if nuance has up and left into the outer reaches of space sometimes.",
">Touché if you are defining the rule as what people can do, then yes that is true.\n\nMore than that, what they have access to.\n\n>But as far as socio-economic studies go, the rule is that most don't have the economic mobility that you have.\n\nSocio-economic studies only demonstrate what people choose to do, not what options are available to them. The plain truth of it is every black person could get to where I am if they put in the effort, but most don't for various reasons.\n\nIn my opinion the largest of these reasons is the prevailing culture in black communities that denigrates black children any time they move towards success. I was regularly criticized and told I was \"acting white\" when I made efforts academically, by other black kids and even some parents. Likewise there's a lot of hate towards our country in these communities, so anyone who supported our military or wanted to enlist was similarly derided.\n\nSo while everyone has the option and the means, not everyone is willing to do what it takes to get there.",
"“Don’t hate the black, don’t hate the white. If you get bitten, just hate the bite” - Sly Stone ",
">...so as he said, \"superficial features\"?\n\nYes, skin color is superficial. It looks like your disagreeing with me, but I don't think you are. \n\n>People absolutely consider white and black to be races\n\nLaymen, you mean. They're wrong. \n\n",
"Don't black people get sickle cell anemia more than white people? Don't most white people retain the ability to digest milk into adulthood?\nAren't a lot of asian people like \"allergic\" to alcohol? \n \nAren't those biological differences based on race? ",
"Are we going to ignore that this precious one race is the one responsible for the total annihilation of the Neanderthals?!",
"The sentiment is nice, but race is a biological reality:\n\n[Humans can be genetically categorized into five racial groups, corresponding to traditional races.](https://archive.is/oMaKP)\n\n[“Empirical structure within human genetic variation … resembles continentally based racial classifications”.](https://archive.is/5cp23)\n\n[Race is biologically real and represents “genetic clusters” of variation.](https://archive.is/5cp23)",
"The Tetrazoids will do work Humans don’t want to do! \n",
"Clothing For Humans! https://www.sumptuaryculture.com/\n",
"This is such a bullshit copout. You’re blaming your bad choices on an entire race of people that you don’t know. HOW is anyone ONLY because of their race at a disadvantage. I would love to hear it. \n\nYou redefined racism to include some reference to “dominant races.” This isn’t the case. Just simply false. Racism has nothing to do with “the dominant race.” You just made it up to support your argument because it’s unsupportable otherwise ",
"more specifically rich straight white men ",
"This would completely undermine the Democratic Party. How would they operate without identity politics? ",
"But white is the best sub race",
"Didnt Obama make a speech about this?\nHe said \"We are all one race. The human race.\"",
"Too bad the left doesn’t see it that way ",
"It seems only the west is tackling this.",
"But who will win the race? It certainly won't be those coned nipple bastards if I have anything to say about it!",
"Of course treat everyone as individuals and with respect. That goes without saying.\n\nThose things that happened in the past are still lingering with us though and need addressing. Plus not all of it remains just in the past, discrimination and racism is alive and well unfortunately. \n\nBlack neighbourhoods for example are on average poorer, have worse schools, higher crime, more drugs and so on. I’m not saying you have to treat people differently in your everyday life, but disadvantaged communities should be helped.\n\nAs for your point about feminism and men’s rights I’m not even going to touch that. I can’t be bothered with that conversation on top of this one.",
"What's her agenda",
"You are wrong. People can tell race and sex based off of skeletons",
"That appeared to include a jab at the hobbit movies to fuel a dislike for PJ; I'm curious if you're aware PJ didn't come in to pick up the pieces until after the studio fucked it up and Guillermo had to leave.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20vA9U7J2qQ\n",
"No, that’s exactly what I meant. Respect and acknowledge that someone is black/Swedish/anything else but don’t treat them differently because of it.",
"You will probably have a better chance at carving a rock with your nails then convince people in this thread that there are different human races. I agree with you though.",
"Virtue signaling is a phrase used by people without virtue. Amongst normal people, it's just called empathy.",
"Whatever helps you sleep at night Jimmy Livingston",
"It sounds like you're disagreeing with me, but what you said is compatible with what I said. ",
"Another? What’s the first? ",
"So say we all.",
"Hella yea ",
"literally the opposite of intersectionalism",
"Some folks will disagree, those who like to divide us into as many groups as possible. Maybe someday the masses will wake up to the game...",
"My Hummer",
"Only if you are facing the white walkers ",
"Maybe we want to go to Radio City Music Hall?\n\nEdit: Check the sign behind the woman in the photo.",
"I excluded literally everyone but brown people. If you look hard enough for an issue, you'll find one. ",
"Why did you interpret what I said that way? ",
"Well it's gonna matter when hostile aliens invade. We better stick together ",
"I'm tempted to agree with you because I, too, despise the KKK, but your claim that racism only exists because of the concept of race doesn't account for the material, economic repercussions of White Supremacy, particularly in the U.S. Yes, if we race abolitionists had our say, then future generations could easily grow up without a conception of race, but we'd still have an enormous economic disparity between people descended from white people and the rest of society because whites in the United States have gained so much off the backs of oppressed peoples.",
"> Racism is systemic and omnipresent, a dominant cultural idea that gets reproduced through media. \n\n[Morgan Freeman would like to have a word with you] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOiQgleiRtU) 0:57",
"Dogs? Octopus?",
"Signal, girl.",
"Are you sure you're not just racist? A lot of people don't recognize themselves as racist because they believe they're *right* about all the unflattering ideas they have about other people based on their ancestry. Hint: THAT'S RACISM. ",
"Who is \"we\"?",
">That's a subjective interpretation of the phrase though.\n\nNo that's literally the interpretation of the way it was used. There was a movement that said \"black lives matter\" which was the slogan of a movement that said that black people were being targeted by police as if they were less human than other ethnicities. \n\n\"All Lives Matter\" was literally the slogan used for counter protesters who didn't believe it and sided with the police.\n\nArguing to take the phrase literally is highly tone deaf.",
"thats called species. and its still questionable.",
"It doesn't need to. If you can't agree on big picture goals without solving all the nitty gritty problems first, you'll never get anything done.",
"Indeed. It will be illegal to discriminate your fapping media based on race, religion, age, or even gender. ",
"I'll take that trade off. ",
"I was born nude. How is that a choice?",
"What happened to black excellence? Sure we're all one race but there's no better feeling than seeing a nigga that made it.",
"Well it’s not like it’s difficult to find. Without restrictions it’s inevitable than children will simply stumble across it. ",
"> minor\n\nWE FOUND THE COAL JOBS!",
"So to answer his question, yeah you're saying it the racist way.",
"https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2018/01/19/prospect-police-officer-racist-messages-kill-blacks/1048979001/\n\nFigure out how to solve that issue while ignoring race and maybe I'll go along with it. This is a predominately upper class white area, but I know black people who live there. So you work your way out of the ghetto by starting a business and busting your ass, and your kids still have a target on their backs. Seriously, if you have ideas, I'm open, but just acting like it's not a problem that needs to be fixed is fucking stupid. ",
"Nothing is racist and everything is racist, welcome to current year. ",
"Yes!!",
"Race is literally breed but us humans really dont like being compared to animals. Even if we ARE animals. So we say race, like we are actually different.",
"Despite everything, this past year has showed me that there are a TON of people who believe in this. More so than I had ever thought. I mean, compare how popular this mentality is to fifty years ago. It makes me optimistic! There’s still steps to take, but damn it feels good to see so many people come under a wholistic ideal!",
"Why must colour blindness mean ignoring culture and history? Just because one cannot see red for example, doesn't mean that they'll refuse to eat red apples. It just means that the colour in of itself isn't something they give attention to.",
">Well, I personally get furious when people in the states with high urban populations try to make blanket economic policies that affect lower-population density states without actually listening to people who live in them. I'd imagine that people feel the same way when their communities are largely people of color.\n\nAgain, what does this have to do with the price of tea in China? Did you have a seizure, or a mental break? You're not saying anything that is in any way relevant to this conversation. I don't give a fuck what makes you furious or what you think is wrong or right. Either get back to the conversation at hand or fuck off.",
"FUCK YEAH!!!!",
"The only way the golden rule exists is if you use it.",
"Privileged allies are always appreciated, but it’s best to let members of marginalized communities speak for themselves\n\nEdit: see my replies, white people are not universally privileged but they don’t experience systemic racism like racial minorities do, so they have privilege.",
"Simply yelling at people telling them to not be racist doesn’t do anything other than build tension and add to the fire.",
"They never do",
"The original of this thread:\n\"This will not age well.Someone’s gonna find this in a 100 years and we will look so racist as humans when there are immigrants from other planets.\"\n\nYou: \"Its not even really correct now. Genetically speaking we aren't even really one species\"\n\nYou again:\"We can say we all are human but genetically we differ\"\n\nYou specifically call out \"humans\" as incorrect but then agree later. This is why I'm asking that. Not implying but inferring from your comments. ",
"In my case, it was a little from column A and a little from column B",
"Strongly agree.",
"Wow. Racism is wrong. Such a brave standpoint to take. Let's get this to the top because we all know gallowboob deserves it. This picture is not interesting or thought provoking. It's textbook virtue signaling and it's pretty obvious. Yeah, I agree with the sentiment, but that's not the point. Maybe if you're doing a fourth grade assembly this would be quality content.",
"We're being too often asked to make moral and political distinctions based on those categories, that's why it's problematic. We SHOULD ignore race when it comes to creating a unified political project and considering the moral worth of another person. Thinking that all that can be suspended to 'bring to awareness to current power structures and systematic racisn' is not only misguided but has turned into an apology for identitarianism.",
"Rainbow Fist says it all.",
"You know you have a problem when you're nodding off playing a TD at 4am",
"Right-o",
"Thanks for the link! I wouldn't call that a credible source, but I did some further research that had some similar things to say. I guess thinking back, structural difference is obvious in some cases. Genetic and morphological variance is present among pretty much any given population of humans. It's not that surprising that people from the same area have similar morphologies. I guess my question is: so what? There are neighboring populations in Africa, some of which are lactose tolerant, some of which aren't. Populations that live in mountainous regions have adaptations to high altitude living that their racially similar, lowland neighbors do not have. We can give any variety of names and categories to people with different morphological features. No one is saying \"black people and white people are the same\", just look at the color of their skin. The takeaway is that humans have a long history of admixture. The genetic variance between two African populations can be similar to the variance between one of those population and a European population",
"Alright, I get your satire, good work. Now I'm making a good faith effort to have a conversation about real issues. We're not talking about people saying they're oppressed because people don't accept furries yiffing in the streets",
"http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/index.html\n\n>\"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people,\" former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper's writer Dan Baum for the April cover story published Tuesday.\n\"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities,\" Ehrlichman said. \"We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.\"",
"How can you say race doesn't exist? Don't get me wrong, I get the message, but saying race isn't a real thing and is just a \"social construct\" is only going to alienate people from what you're saying because it's so blatantly wrong.\n\nRace is literally the whole point of evolution. A species becomes adapted to it's environment through slight variations, thereby creating a new \"race\". For example, black skin is more suited to a hot climate, and white skin is more suited to a cold climate. You cannot say that there is no difference there.\n\nIt's akin to breeds of animals. Certain breeds develop (or are developed) to be more appropriate to their environment. Breeds have differences in both structure (physical) and temperament (mental), as do races, although they are slightly less pronounced besides the obvious one that is skin colour.\n\nRacism could be tackled much more effectively if we could all accept that races do exist and are in places slightly biologically different, but that none of these variations make one race better than another and nurture almost completely overrides nature in humans to the point of negligibility. But to say that race doesn't exist is just silly, and any differently opinionated readers out there are going to switch off to your message at such a comment.",
"I agree with you that we are one race, and supporting the human race should be our goal. My general philosophy is I cannot say I like everyone on this planet equally, because I don't like some people as individuals. I can say that I hate all people [and/or races] equally, by which I mean I apply the same standards to everyone. I hate when trump does/says something stupid as much as I hate when Clinton does/says something stupid, as much as I hate when Obama does/says something stupid, as much as I hate George W. Bush when he does/says something stupid. Can we all just apply the same standards to everyone, and not give people passes because they share a political or moral viewpoint with us? We should be equally critical of all people, and not apply harsher standards or more lax standards based on someones exterior traits. judging what someone actually does with their life is unavoidable, but we shouldn't judge more harshly the actions of one person compared to the actions of another, they should be held to the same standard. If we stop hating unequally, and just hate everyone equally, things will get better because the protectionist attitude that has formed around party lines/ moral/religious beliefs is helping no one. It is the unequal distribution of hate that is tearing America apart, and our societal refusal to apply the same standards to people we like and people we don't like. You cannot reasonable force people to like each other, but it is reasonable for people to apply the same standards across the board, and not selectively hate one group over another. You don't have to like someone or some group, just don't apply more hate towards them than you would towards anyone else, including yourself. \n\nI know people don't like to say \"I hate people\", but in reality people hate other people; we just shouldn't hate people unequally. Our standards for getting angry should be uniform, not selective. I say I hate all people equally because I would be lying if I said I like all people equally. Hating people equally doesn't mean I go and hate on people, but when I do get upset about something I don't apply hate more aggressively towards one group compared to another. They all get the same treatment. I know people are going to think I'm evil for writing this, but reflect on it a bit and you will realize that hating people equally is equal treatment, and that is what our society actually needs to evolve and overcome historic and future cultural issues. I really wish our elected officials would learn to apply hate equally, and not protect those who do wrong simply because they agree with them on some other point. If someone does something wrong, the reaction should be comparable between one person or another, we should not change our standards based upon who we are dealing with...\n\n ",
"It isnt. Not really.. but a lot of the all lives matter sigbs were directly rebuking BLM signs.. and people took it as an attack. \n\nBut seriously.. it is the same message at heart.. i guess it just depends on pov.",
"gondor was in your pants mate ",
">Try being Irish in the 1800s, or a European Jew in the 30s or 40S, or a poor Russian in the early 20th century, or a Bosnian in the 90s.\n\nOr Italian in the US in the early 1900s. It's a little-known fact that the worst mass lynching in US history was of Italian immigrants.",
"More politics. Fuck Gallowboob.",
"No i'm not.\n\nWhen it comes to old skeletons it's different because races didn't mix much thousands of years ago.\n\nWHen it comes to modern times, they're looking at what the likely result is, but it's not always correct. There's no single defining feature that comes with black people, white people, asian people or whatever. They can say that an individual had X and Y features which are associated with a certain race though. And then use other data to add to that. \n\nJust think logically. What is a mixed race person? If there's a single false positive, it's not a 100% determination.",
">>We have to recognize that race is a social construct\n>\n>Source? \n\nThe \"white race\" was a social construct created to quell a join african-irish slave insurrection known as bacons rebellion. \n\nThe Irish slaves were freed and told that they were better than the African slaves because of their skin color.\n\nAlso see http://www.pbs.org/race/000_About/002_04-background-02-09.htm",
"Welcome to the education system! Where the opinions and emotions of a teacher prioritize higher than syllabuses, objective truths and intelligent discussions!",
"There’s no difference in saying “all lives matter” and “I don’t see race”",
"The type of milquetoast post I'd expect from /u/GallowBoob tbh.",
"When you see the white whale.",
"Except it’s considered racist for a white to say this. ",
"It reads like part of a solution. ",
"Treat the cause, not the symptoms.",
"Upvote\n\nSee OP\n\nDownvote",
">How is it not a thing when it happens every time a white dude makes the comment replying to Black Lives matter saying that “All Lives Matter”? \n\nBecause we know for a fact AllLivesMatter is just a racist reactionary group that formed to spite BlackLivesMatter\n\nThey admitted as much",
"Exactly. OP can’t answer either of those questions. It’s easy to blame everything on racism when you completely redefine what the word racism means.",
"Too complex. ",
"Thats something I dont get, in the U.S. when you apply for a job it asks you what race you are, African American, Asian, Latino, Non-Hispanic Latino, White/Middle East...etc, why can't they just remove that and hire based on skills.",
"what the fuck",
"Finally. I really enjoy seeing this take.",
"That's species not race ",
"My only problem with movie was have the elf girl act mentally challenged for like the first 2/3rds of the movie to suddenly acting normal. was just so weird.",
"A poster that says there is only one race, the black race would get upvoted to the top of Reddit, a site which is predominantly dominated by white people? The mental gymnastics that you guys have to do to find something to be offended about is insane.",
"You're bringing up the topics of what you view as unfair favoritism to non-whites. I'm brining up reasons why that happens, and why it should continue to happen until certain problems are solved, unless someone comes up with a better solution. It's a pretty clear connection. Quit substituting insults for logic.",
"im betting you say that a lot huh?\n\n...then you smugly adjust your dunce cap...",
"respect her",
" It was about 10 years ago when i learned about it in High School. I just remember watching it and wondering why he shut it down since the participants were doing what he told them to do.",
"Dogs are breeds as they are bred. \n\nThis optimistic woman's intent seems clearly, as so many peacemakers are, is to reduce the prejudice in differences by reminding everyone what they have in common as human are far more than the differences in geographic ancestry of the debatable concept of race. \n\nOne can split hairs; that's trending. But this is insight on the disagreement they are bound to run up against for this pretty common sentiment. ",
">It's as if nuance has up and left into the outer reaches of space sometimes.\n\nIt definitely has. Back before the internet was popular, you'd have to discuss things like this with other real people in person, where it's socially a lot more difficult to be an extremist ass.\n\nNowadays, people just go to the internet to find a facebook group, subreddit, groupchat, etc. for people with a similar mindset. And it turns into an echochamber where people just don't hear dissenting opinions. And you get this shit from every group nowadays: the Trump backers have /r/the_donald, the far-left has /r/latestagecapitalism, the left has /r/politics, the far-right has <insert nazi sub here>, and so on. And, rather than put up with dissent, you'll just get banned for having the wrong opinion.",
"Me not that kind of orc!",
"> race is a social construct\n\ndude what",
"“No man can kill me”\n\n“I am no man”",
"Le Mans!",
"Let's *not* be specific actually -- it's always been trendy to hate people of *every* background. Is there an avatar you would've chosen instead?",
"I think it was renewed for a sequel the day it was released on Netflix.",
"Assuming a white person is privileged isn't racist? I always thought socioeconomic status had a lot more to do with it. ",
"“With the vast expansion of scientific knowledge in this century, however, it has become clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups. Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic \"racial\" groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes. This means that there is greater variation within \"racial\" groups than between them. In neighboring populations there is much overlapping of genes and their phenotypic (physical) expressions. Throughout history whenever different groups have come into contact, they have interbred. The continued sharing of genetic materials has maintained all of humankind as a single species.\"\n\n—American Anthropological Association \n\nAlso see more info at https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Racialism#Scientific_consensus:_Races_aren.27t_useful",
"!redditgarlic",
"He just annoys me. He’s obsessed with karma farming and makes low effort reposts across several subreddits. I know it’s not really affecting me in any way, it just is annoying to keep seeing his name on the front page after all these years on reddit. I wish he’d just sorta go away. ",
"Humans are awesome. ",
"Most people do though. \n\nAt least I hope so.",
"And that’s why I view everyone as black. ",
"Unfortunately a lot of people think the way to create unity is to spread hate, weirdly enough. I keep seeing things all the time that are like \"(insert group) was great at (insert protest/rally/march). Pity they're useless for the rest of the year.\"\n\n",
"Wait, then why is there affirmative action?",
"Yeah, but, we want to be healthy, right? Are we not allowed to say that?",
"/pol/ disagrees",
"Somebody has watched Bright.",
"Picking and choosing what I said so you can feel high and mighty.\n\nBut I'm doing mental gymnastics while thinking about parallel universes.\n\nSure...",
"But then how will we piss off fragile, sensitive little snowflakes like you? I'm gonna make an alt that posts exclusively progress pics and political signs.",
"Orcs ain't shit. They're territorial and heavily fractured, moreso than we are. It's the Elves we should worry about.",
"How about 0 any-kind-of-person a year? Honestly the fact that it's so disproportionately against black people is just the cherry on the shit-sundae. ",
"Yes, Purge the foul greenskins!",
"Would you be surprised that ~~poor~~ economically challenged black culture is just as oppressive as a majority of economically challenged white culture, and there are a large amount of cultural cross over?\n\nYes, poverty does effect more minorities by percentage but poverty isn't a race issue, poverty is the issue.\n\nCrime, drugs, single parent families, lack of economic mobility, lack of educational opportunities are all massively effected by economic standing.\n\nYes, racism is still an issue on a case by case basis, but on paper there no longer an accepted institutional racism in America. I can't speak about institutionalized racism in practice as my experience would be pointless as I'm just a white female from a military family. ",
"“With the vast expansion of scientific knowledge in this century, however, it has become clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups. Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic \"racial\" groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes. This means that there is greater variation within \"racial\" groups than between them. In neighboring populations there is much overlapping of genes and their phenotypic (physical) expressions. Throughout history whenever different groups have come into contact, they have interbred. The continued sharing of genetic materials has maintained all of humankind as a single species.\"\n\n—American Anthropological Association \n\nAlso see more info at https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Racialism#Scientific_consensus:_Races_aren.27t_useful\n\n",
"I live in California. Not in a big city either. Just another beach town. We are a HUGE accepting and anti trump community. We rarely have hate crimes and when we do the entire town as well as our close neighboring towns, come together to help the people affected. ",
"Thanks for proving his point. ",
"I don't know honestly. I still commented their for a while after I was receiving negative karma. Perhaps you'll have the same issue I did if you keep commenting there? I just unsubscribed after a while. The mods selectively enforce the rules of their own sub if it fits the democratic narrative, and I realized it's not a sub where people are open to having their ideas challenged. So I just stopped.",
"Yeah, it’s really dumb. I fail to see how viewing people on an individual basis rather than a race collective is racist.",
"“With the vast expansion of scientific knowledge in this century, however, it has become clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups. Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic \"racial\" groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes. This means that there is greater variation within \"racial\" groups than between them. In neighboring populations there is much overlapping of genes and their phenotypic (physical) expressions. Throughout history whenever different groups have come into contact, they have interbred. The continued sharing of genetic materials has maintained all of humankind as a single species.\"\n\n—American Anthropological Association \n\nAlso see more info at https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Racialism#Scientific_consensus:_Races_aren.27t_useful\n\n",
"My parents actually named me after her. This whole thread makes me unreasonably happy",
"That's Daytona 500 to you, open-wheel scum!",
"There’s little girls and boys who are porn addicts nowadays. They’re going to be so disappointed and desensitized when they grow up. ",
"I got Linehan all over me",
"2 feet n heart beata ",
"I have never heard this. What makes you say she's a blatant expy?",
"Oh sorry, I think I misunderstood you. Yeah, I don't think he realized what horrible things he was asking people to do. He ended up shutting it down because other people told him he was taking it too far. ",
"Fuck off Gallowboob. You're a mod at r/Imgoingtohellforthis, and you've reposted content mocking black people before. ",
"Sure but race still exists",
"No, hierarchy is *exactly* the problem. There are, empirically, differences within racial subgroups (like amount of melanin, height, tendency to facial hair, vulnerability to alcohol addiction, and so on). Denying that isn't solving anything any more than denying climate change is (and there's nothing wrong with people being different anyway). The problem is people's tendency to use it to declare their own groups as superior. ",
"Sure, but sickle cell anemia isn't remotely a compelling example for \"race\". If you look at it, it is shows in populations with a history of mosquito/malaria problems waay back. So you see higher prevalence of it in ethnic groups from sub-Saharan Africa, but not the rest of Africa. And you see it elsewhere in the world, like the Arabian peninsula and IIRC some parts of southern Europe and India.\n\nIt is not remotely a black vs white distinction.",
"LOL, good on. I wonder how some of these people would react if they found out they were hired to fill a racial quota and not because they were the best for the job? Would do wonders for their professional confidence.",
"No",
"WTG! 👍👍💓",
"Bullshit. Give a source, that’s an alt-right fantasy that doesn’t exist.",
"I am going to put this on the census survey when it comes around again.",
"*frantically searches for the /s",
"That would be a colloquial definition.\n\n>\tRaces may exist in humans in a cultural sense, but biological concepts of race are needed to access their reality in a non-species-specific manner and to see if cultural categories correspond to biological categories within humans. Modern biological concepts of race can be implemented objectively with molecular genetic data through hypothesis-testing. Genetic data sets are used to see if biological races exist in humans and in our closest evolutionary relative, the chimpanzee. Using the two most commonly used biological concepts of race, chimpanzees are indeed subdivided into races but humans are not.\n\nhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23684745/",
"> I won't get behind it because it is an incorrect statement. Race is a taxonomic classification of a population within a species that is distinct in some way. Humans are a species.\n\n\nRace is a useless biological category because it's based on superficial characteristics like skin tone, hair color and texture and facial features. Those differences are real but they don't separate humans from one another in any meaningful way. They are arbitrarily chosen to categorize people based on nothing important. They're just visual cues with no deeper meaning behind them. Ginger people have ginger genes. So? What are you going to do with that information? It doesn't mean anything.",
"At least Ted’s actually taking a non-obvious stance. ",
"-after all",
">I'm making fun of the idiots who think race is just a social construct. We have genetic differences, and pretending we don't denies science. \n\nScientifically speaking what are the genetic differences?",
"So why object to simply stating the goal? It's not bad to be reminded, it serves a purpose, just as much as actual solutions do.",
"I'm sorry but when people are dying, you have to do a little more than just hold up a sign that says, \"we're all the same\". Like, yeah. We know. But in the meantime people are being hurt/killed and there's ACTUAL ways to help fix those problems that couldve saved/helped priceless human lives, but it starts with people showing their SUPPORT and having a STANCE.\n\nThis sign is supposed to make you feel warm and fuzzy on the inside so you can ignore what's going on around you. Its self righteous and reeks of Facebook.",
"White people ARE privileged. White people have not had their housing gerrymandered so they have to live in underfunded neighborhoods and they don’t experience other kinds of systemic racism that racial minorities do. While a racial minority could have more privilege in other ways (for example, a poor white person vs a rich black person or a queer white person vs a cis/straight Asian person), white people have more racial privilege under the current system.",
"Go with honor.",
"It's not scientifically true though.\n\n[Humans can be genetically categorized into five racial groups, corresponding to traditional races.](https://archive.is/oMaKP)\n\n[“Empirical structure within human genetic variation … resembles continentally based racial classifications”.](https://archive.is/5cp23)\n\n[Race is biologically real and represents “genetic clusters” of variation.](https://archive.is/5cp23)",
"Open-wheel master race!",
"Consider the hypothetical of a white man of German lineage who was raised in Japan (a 98%+ ethnically homogeneous country), let's call him Tom. Tom is a minority. Tom thinks the entirety of the Japanese people should be killed. Why? It's because Tom is a racist. He's poor as shit and widely considered a dickhead by his immediate community. He's still a racist.",
"And this woman should be too, if she actually the colorblind type",
"Yeah but who knows what we're getting. ",
"I do, but if it means blaming me for a bunch of shit I had absolutely nothing to do with (unless you count, as you seemingly do, being born white), then I'm going to tell anyone espousing your nobly-intentioned message to go fuck themselves. Which is what a sufficiently large portion of the American electorate did. Which is why we now have to suffer Trump.\n\nThe Left's habitual, self-flagellating condemnation of whiteness only works to give tacit permission to the Alt-Right to indulge in the exact same kind of racialized, toxic form of group identity politics. \n\n\n",
"It's not racist, it just doesn't help to stop racism. It is completely normal notice someones skin colour just like noticing someones hair colour. It's when you use that to judge them or how they should be treated that it becomes racist. Acceptance of everybody's differences is very important in ending racism, and pretending that those differences don't exist just moves things in the opposite direction.",
"Systemic oppression isn’t real. You’re responsible for your own bad choices. Stop blaming an entire race of people you haven’t met",
"I always say that when people start naming \"race\", I say I thought it was just the human race?! People look at me like I'm crazy 😝",
"It's the definition in a biological context, which is what was being discussed. \nYou said\n>Why would you define it as that?\n\nThe answer to which is \"because its the relevant definition.\"\n\n",
"Yeah, would be nice to have a race classification for humans here in the west, but we can't even start a study without being blocked and insulted.\n\nHell, we lack even recent studies to fully determine if races exist in the human species in the first place. Everything stopped shortly after the WWII. ",
"*\"The only good bug is a dead bug.\"*",
"Literally.",
"So brave isn't it. Look who OP is too. ",
"Zoop zoop.",
"I'd say we were different cultures, but a white guy from Africa would have a significantly lower risk of sickle cell disease, even if they were from a similar culture. \n\nCelebrate different cultures, but we aren't all one race. We're one species and we need to respect each other, but I really think we should love and embrace our differences. Don't be an asshole to people different than you, even if they look, talk, eat, worship different than you do. But, there are a lot of different people out there. Ethnicity, race, whatever you want to call it...",
"Having pride in your race is such a weird concept. Like, you certainly shouldn’t be ashamed of it, but you didn’t choose/earn your race. Let’s just judge people based on the content of their character, etc.",
"Me AM that kind of orc",
"Well I enjoyed the movie and I agree with you that the universe needs expanding. The concept is really cool. ",
"But that's objectively not true. Colour of skin is not remotely the only difference between different peoples..",
"",
"It’s not even about individuals. You have to acknowledge the role race plays in class and status as well. ",
"Now we're getting into the plot of Mass Effect. ",
"I wanna buy that lady some lobster.",
"Because it’s so obvious right? ",
"We need more gold\n",
"Hell yeah. ",
"\"I don't understand how this thing that's hurting me works, therefore it must be an elaborate conspiracy.\" \n\nThe really unfortunate thing is that they apply this same dumbass thought process in their political views. ",
"We just need an alien invasion where they will beat us and then bring their society to us then we can call them fKn greys !",
"",
">Something like that would suffice as evidence.\n\nLook, a lack of studies is not really what prevents you from believing that black people suffer from systemic racism. There's a [study](http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0141854) from the University of California found that unarmed black people are 3.49 times more likely to be killed unarmed white people, there's a [study](http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1948550616633505) from UCLA/Harvard that found the whiter one appears the less likely you will face police force, and a [study](https://news.stanford.edu/2016/06/15/stanford-big-data-study-finds-racial-disparities-oakland-calif-police-behavior-offers-solutions/) from Stanford that found officers were disproportionally handcuffing black people. There's oceans more, of course. But this will do nothing to sway you, because as a white person you do not want to believe that African-Americans might have a legitimate gripe. That's the cold, harsh reality, and white people rarely take that point well.\n\n>So, you are linking the KKK to Christianity? I mean, why stop there? Nazis were Christian too.\n\nExactly my point. Don't throw out the 99% over the actions of the 1%.\n\n>The KKK's is based on race.\n\nThe KKK is a Christian organization that derives their racists beliefs from Christianity. You cannot separate the two. You can say that they are misguided, but you can't deny that their racist beliefs are based on their backwards views about Christianity.\n\n>So, here comes BLM ---- their ideological root is, cops are evil, the system is racist, we should be scared enough for our lives to commit violence in response.\n\nThat is not the view of the vast majority of people who identify with BLM. You're projecting your own biases onto them, and it suggests to me you haven't interacted with anyone who identifies with BLM.",
"Oi, ladz, les kill these bloody 'umies!",
"> sexual preference \n\nLol. ",
"I didn't put race into these. I put ethnicity. Very different ideas.\n\nSo people who have been abused by the State, we hold no responsibilities to them?",
"oky dokie",
"Personally I view everyone as blue. Like the people from that one Daft Punk video.",
"Satellite dish + modified descrambler = the sky's the limit. By the time I was 10, I would sneak out and put electrical tape over all the lights that came on when the receiver unit was turned on and watch for hours.\n\nF4-24 was the Playboy Channel. I'll remember that and the code to fight Tyson (007-373-5963) until I die I think.",
"reddit just doesn't get it",
"Why would I pay $40 for a towel?",
"I mean, I started around that age. Was visiting my grandparents and grandpa had a bunch of Hustler's hidden behind one hunting magazine his bathroom. Took some *really* long showers during that visit.",
"So what you’re saying iiis....all lives matter? Oh boy...I’m very conflicted..",
"That's literally what you said. You find nothing wrong with the statement \"one race, the white race!\"? Are you a moron? Or just a racist? Its as if you slept during history class where they teach you about America's history with white supremacy.",
"There are biological factors behind some of the individual components we call race. Skin color, for example, is based on genetics. However, labeling some people together based on a combination if factors, including non genetic characteristics such as country of origin, and calling that a race is not biological.",
"[–]BudgetBinLaden\n -11 points 1 year ago \n\n\"That's just what the blacks do.\"\n\nyou're a pos racist troll. \n\nr/quityourbullshit\n\n",
"[It looks like it actually happened in 1891](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_14,_1891,_lynchings)\n\nI had no idea this ever happened though\n\n",
"Well I guess that's a new way to advertise for 8 bucks",
"i agree with the sentiment but not the articulation. \n\ni would replace \"racism\" with \"sytemic racial discrimination\". in most predominently white societies white people have the advantages of precidence, legacy and majority which grants white people a greater degree of power both as individuals and as a collective, leaving minority or immigrant groups at a disadvantage. this is what i would define as systemic racial discrimination, it leads to a social structure that is biased to a greater or lesser degree towards the most powerful group and takes decades to correct. \n\nminority groups cannot generally take the upper position of this system because they are by the nature of the system its victims. \n\non the other hand minorities can very easily be the purpetrators of individual racial discrimination, just as a member of the powerful majority can be the victim. the overarching power structure of wider society has a diminished effect on inter-personal interaction where individual ideals have a greater effect. \n\nthere is an inherent ambiguity to the english language which can sometimes be useful but can also cause problems. ",
"While our backgrounds seem different. We are all one people.",
"Oh, yeah I liked it too. There's a few different directions a sequel could go. Let's see what happens. ",
"If we do make contact with sentient aliens I would really want to know what they taste like.",
"They're destroying our *city!*",
"The issue isn't that there aren't genetic conditions that are more common in some groups vs others. However, how we parse people into racial categories doesn't follow genetics, including those of these well known genetic conditions. Take sickle cell anemia. I'm sure you know its prevalence follows that of malaria tanks to the heterozygote advantage it provides. So you'd expect in South Africa or Ethiopia for it to be rare, and sure enough, it is. So blindly knowing somebody is of African ancestry doesn't always correlate with a high chance of sickle cell. \n\nOr Takayasu's arteritis. It is most common in Japan, Korea, China, India, Thailand, and Singapore, as well as in Turkey, Israel, Mexico, and Kuwait, and in fact it is more prevalent in some parts of South America and the Middle East than in parts of South East Asia. \n\nI'm also glad you brought up Beta-thalassemia, since as you said it is more common in Mediterranean populations. However, it is also present in west Indian populations and North African populations. \n\nThe point is that while it is absolutely useful to know these things, a good family history is far more useful in cases of inherited genetic disorders. Furthermore, parsing people into genetic categories preceded genetic analysis by a lot, and as you can see, even in cases of genetic disorders like these, doesn't follow the underlying genetics at all. \n\n\n\n",
"",
"I think the thing people are not willing to accept is your definition of racism, which is what your whole perspective seems to be built off. What makes your definition the 'correct' one? You're saying it's pedantic, but it's really not - If two people have two different definitions of racism, and you make an honest argument of what you think should be done to better the world, it won't mean anything if no one agrees with your original definition. It's like doing science with strange assumptions that you haven't justified, no one is going to take you seriously unless you properly explain.\n\nI think if you want to convince people, you need to explain *why* you think this is the correct definition of racism. Not just state that it is and expect people to believe you, which is what seems to have annoyed a few people.\n\nIt's good that you want to educate people on what you believe and think is right, but it's all for nothing unless you do it in a way that people can actually understand, which seems to be the problem with a lot of people pointing out the flaws in this post.",
"They're still members, no matter how much BLM wants to shove it under the rug and forget about it. Some of their members have become radicalized and done some fucked up things and ignoring that only makes the problem worse.",
"Soon enough we will all be mixed and all of the inbred have died off",
"White privilege means that people with white/lighter skin don't face the same level of adversity as those with dark skin AS A RESLUT OF cultural attitudes about skin color. It doesn't mean a white person can't be poor or suffer misfortune. It means that it won't be because of their skin color. ",
"I wish I should choose a different avatar. Being anything other than white would be a huge advantage in today’s society.\n\nI thought there was a term for hating a group of people only because of the color of their skin..... I forget what it’s called.",
">> Rather, the categories we parse people into has nothing to do with actual genetic variation. \n>\n>That's objectively false and is why law enforcement can determine race by DNA samples. DNA is not a social construct.\n\nCitation on law enforcement being able to determine Race by DNA samples? \n\nDo you think it's okay to make an assertion as strong as claiming something is objectively false without at least linking a single source?\n\nAlso see: \n\n > \"If a test-taker is just interested in finding out where there are some people in the world that share the same DNA as them, then these tests can certainly tell them that,\" said Deborah Bolnick of the University of Texas in Austin. \"But they're not going to tell you every place or every group in the world where people share your DNA. Nor will they necessarily be able to tell you exactly where your ancestors lived or [what race or social group] they identified with.\" - https://www.livescience.com/7384-genetic-ancestry-tests-hype-scientists.html",
"Oh nice you have alts",
"This misses the fact that individuals of different \"races\" are basically clones of each other -- we went through a genetic logjam about 70,000 years ago, eliminating a lot of genetic diversity. A very \"white\" person may very well have more genes in common with a \"black\" person than another \"white\" person, even though the skin tells a lie of difference. You might as well construct a race of red heads, or ectomorphs, or Alopecia or whatever random trait you want to use as an essential criterion of \"difference.\" \n\n",
"Moral of the story: as always, humans suck at logic, regardless of how intelligent we are, the color of our skin, or our political ideology.",
"She was wrong to call you racist. That doesn't even contribute anything to the discussion. But I think your objection doesn't directly address the point. Most sane people would absolutely agree with you - no one *should have to* feel like that based on skin color. But the reality is that people often have to deal with things the way they are, not as they'd like them to be. It sounds like the white student just had a \"walk a mile in another man's shoes\" experience and he felt it helped him understand the lives of minorities better. ",
"lol I luv u guyes",
"Well it worked just great, cause racisms gone. ",
"Two races; also 800m Sprint.",
">ignores race-----> seen as racist\n\n\n\n>sees race-----> seen as racist\n\n\n\n\nLmao",
"Because of people who truly believe there is enough racism in the U.S to constitute posts like this one. ",
"I've been saying this to anyone who listens. We are all the same, but we are all uniquely different. We are all human beings, but each individual is more or less one of a kind. ",
"You should become a psychic with your abality to read people's mind.\n\n/The idea is just one part of a larger solution. ",
"Break your backs and crack your oars men ",
"Yeah that was just my first google search. Nature is really cool and it's insane how adaptable life is to different environments, so saying different people have different skulls is not actually incorrect.\n\n\nI'll let you guys get back to your discussion, I was just responding with a link because I love that show so I knew about it haha. Once I saw they made a bust with a skull they had and because they could determine her race they could accurately gauge how she might have looked when she was alive (like her skin color, hair color, etc). They broadcast it on the news, someone responded to the hotline, and they learned the identity of the deceased. With that help, they found the killer and sent him to jail and got closure for her family. Obviously the people who made the bust are like PhD's and stuff though so I knew that was real.",
"Is the person on the right rocking a randoseru backpack?\n\n(Also, why are they $600?)",
"Against the foul aliens, that’s a bad thing?",
"Fuckin A. There are an infinite number of galaxies in our universe...and we can't even get along with the people on our planet.",
"We are, just America seems to be having trouble with it",
"Oh no! Racial stereotyping! It's not as if people haven't made jokes about that before!",
"I haven't minimized it in the least because it was never part of the discussion. The downsides of eating shit are well known enough that i shouldn't fucking have to. \n\nSo, to all you've said and were going to say: duh.",
"This would be great if we stop this diversity quota Bullshit. I say this as a minority myself. ",
"I won't get behind it because it is an incorrect statement. Race is a taxonomic classification of a population within a species that is distinct in some way. Humans are a species.\n\nIt's like saying that dogs are a race, which is incorrect, because dogs are a species. There are dog populations that are distinct in some way, i.e races, for example chihuahuas or collies.\n\n",
"Are you so sure all White people benefit from your idea systemic oppression? Because there are a lot of poor white people that would disagree with you. People from all races need to stop fighting one another and realize that hhe problems in the world are not due to racial oppression, but rather class oppression. \n\n Are Black people more represented than White people in the poor population. Yes. Is that due to systemic oppression in the past. Yes. But today the people at the top, the elite, who consist of all races, are working to actively keep the other classes down and increase their wealth, by buying politicians and keeping wages low. This is all happening while the lower classes are distracted arguing amongst eachother about \"race\". Inequality is up among all races in America. People living in mainly monoracial areas of the world like countries in Asia, still experience extreme inequality and systemic oppression. \n\nIs racism a thing. Of course. Is there still some systemic racial oppression. Maybe, sure. Is it the main problem. Absolutely not. The quicker Black, White, Asian, Arab, Orange and Blue people stop arguing and fighting with one another and work together, the quicker we can start solving the big problems effecting our world and start promoting equality for all.",
"Lol yeah man this is actually what people believe now. Fucking bananaland.",
"Materially speaking there is enormous difference in the class and social status of people based on race. \n\nAs meaningless as it is inherently, the importance placed on it has resulted in it having real effects. ",
"Why should I talk to a pile of bones?",
"Is /r/eyeroll a thing? It should be a thing.",
"This movement happened 50 years agooooo! Wubbalubbba dub dub burp woohoo yeah alright let’s get the fuck outta here",
"Awwww, recognizing you're a part of it without any input from you is not the same thing as blaming you personally for anything.\n\nThere's a lot of what can be described as \"when you're privileged, the lifting up of others can feel like an attack\" happening. And hell yes, there are absolute asses on the left, which I tried to articulate in my original post. They say things and then don't understand what they're saying. They get angry about things that aren't really good to get angry about. And worst of all, they treat the natural defensive reaction like what you and so many are having, with anger and cruelty in response. That's no way to win any allies or garner understanding.\n\nNow, mind you, if I know some rude guy I am talking to on Twitter is for sure a shill or bot account, I get a little more rude with them, or more often, dismissive in order to highlight to others that it's just a troll account looking to bait people.\n\nAnyway, stay chill, my friend.",
"Because it's so general it doesn't challenge anything",
"Systemic Racism is gone, Racism is not. They're two entirely different subjects and claiming they are the same would be like saying that the US still has legally defined slavery because of low wage immigrants.",
"How about we start with teaching equality and stop trying to show horn race into every class issue we can find?",
"this is the inherent ambiguity of the english language. \"racism\" has become short-hand for both structural racial discrimination and for individual racial discrimination. ",
">> Racism is systemic and omnipresent\n>\n>Agreed, systemic programs that favor one race over another such as affirmative action, need to go.\n\nSystematic racism that benefits the most privileged is not equivalent to a systemic program that tries to balance the scales towards the least privileged.",
">\"All Lives Matter\" was literally the slogan used for counter protesters who didn't believe it and sided with the police.\n\nThree questions...\n\n1) Who are these counter protesters who said black lives didn't matter?\n\n2) If you think we can't take the message literally then is your interpretations of \"All lives matter\" the same as if I said \"white lives matter\"?\n\n3) How could I say \"all lives matter\" in the literal sense without using the literal phrase? If it isn't possible, then how is this woman's sign different?\n\nThanks for the reply! ",
"If that is truly the belief, then that's totally rad. But unfortunately many people that claim to be \"color blind\" end up arguing that there is no discrimination based on race in modern society, or that we don't need policies to promote equality",
"Privileged? Lol, grew up poor, worked my ass off just to become lower middle class. Now my family owns our own cars, we are not on government assistance, and we can make our rent every month. To assume I'm privileged just because of my skin color or sexual orientation is a form of discrimination.",
"The first part, yes, the second part, no. Minorities can absolutely participate in the oppression of each other, but no, white people are not subject to racism. Broadening the definition to include all forms of racial prejudice ignores the context in which the word came into common usage, which is also the only context in which anything meaningful can be said by using it. I know a lot of people, including dictionary editors, are just grasping at that \"-ism,\" but the only purpose served by broadening the definition is to water the term down and make it less useful, in service of racism.",
"I typed \"race\" in google and pasted the first result. When most people talk about race that is what they are referring to. A few posts above me someone asked \"does race exist, I don't think so\". In a normal (non-medical or scientific) context that is just factually incorrect. \n\n\nIf you are trying to change people's minds about our society or politics, making statements that are factually wrong is a not a good way to start the debate.\n\n\nedit: For those of you down voting me, go ahead and talk with some of your local republicans and tell them race doesn't exist. Let me know how that conversation goes.",
"One geology: pangaea",
"It’s the racist way, but it’s certainly trying to be labeled as such (which is his point).",
"Best poster I’ve seen in a long time!",
"Ignoring race in the medical field can be very dangerous and even fatal in certain situations.\nRace differences are a reality and we as a society can not afford to ignore them.\nJust because we acknowledge differences doesn’t mean we are racist and think some races are better than others. \nWe just accept that some populations have adapted to different environments and as a result have evolved to be better suited to them.\nCheck out Stefan Molyneux’s podcast called ‘the truth about race realism’ \n",
"Conflating race with culture is wrong. Don't do that.",
"This was commented 18 minutes ago and it’s already guided twice...🤔",
"No. The argument is that most people who care about race outside science are not looking at genetics. They make up their own definitions of race. Which are social constructs.\n\n\n",
"The racists are out in droves today",
"White people aren’t necessarily economically or heteronormatively privileged, but they don’t experience systemic racism like racial minorities do. That’s a form of privilege.",
"I didnt agree. I said its something that can be done but is incorrect. Hence the \"but we are different species\"",
"Race is not synonymous with culture.",
">And Black Lives Matter started on the false narrative of “hands up don’t shoot”. \n\nNo, they started after George Zimmerman was acquitted. \n\n",
"The problem here is that \"race\" is supposed to talk about ethnicity, but now (because of gaming? I don't know) people think of it in terms of species. Race and species are different. There is one human species, and lots of races. ",
"Fuck you gallowboob",
"Only one species of canine! Dog!",
"Ramen. Be one with your noodle.",
"Thank you for explaining it better than I could lol",
"MLK Jr. would've been considered a race traitor these days.",
"It goes species then race its just taxonomy",
"I like it. Love it. Pretty Human. ",
"Who are the lives mattering to, though? ",
"So... When jim crow was abolished? \n\nThe fact is black people control less wealth, are less employable, and are prosecuted at greater rates than white people. Unless you're making the claim that there is something inferior about black people (uh oh) I just don't see how you can tell me that the systems that make up society treat black people fairly.",
"One species?",
"Racist to aliens.",
"So it's not primarily an issue about racial bias, it's primarily an issue about police using excessive methods or failing to deescalate situations, and more about police killing people at a rate hundreds of times higher than what would be viewed as acceptable, not the factor of 3 difference between racial groups.",
"Race as a scientific concept doesn't really exist. No standards organisation includes it in the taxonomic order. ",
"G a l l o w b o o b",
"just tag and dismiss these idiots reddit",
"\"one race\" is fine, but then please no more affirmative action. Okay?",
"There’s only one breed of canine! DOG! ",
"What's the difference in sentiment between this and \"all lives matter\"? Is it the black lady?",
"The account literally has 7 karma",
"Is that Leslie Jones?",
"Not to mention the fact that, in places with a lot of historical diversity like the United States, plenty of people who are identified as \"black\" have a significant amount of Caucasian DNA. Sometimes even a majority. But they are often categorized as \"black\" nonetheless. ",
">A- Why are there so many pictures of protest signs on reddit?\n\nAre there? \n\n>B- Do people just like making snappy signs more than they like trying to actually accomplish the things their signs say?\n\nCreating awareness is an important step in accomplishing the things that those signs say. Frequently there aren't actual steps that can be taken without convincing others to your side first.\n",
"Eliminating the races would *reeally* take the wind out of the sails of the far left. ",
"Something need doing?",
"Equal Rights for Omnics.",
"Anyone else feel like we need an alien invasion to unite the species and forget all this race bullshit? It'll give us something we can all hate together. Like A-Rod did for the Yankees.",
"These aren't all or nothing things. The response to \"White people have advantages\" isn't \"SO YOU'RE SAYING WHITE PEOPLE DON'T WORK HARD?\"\n\nNo, I didn't say that. No one said that. No one hardly says that at all. Yet people often jump to this conclusion.\n\nI'm suggesting that Group A was treated better, both legally and informally, than Group B in the past. Because of this, Group A has accumulated advantages and additional resources over time. Now that Group A and Group B are treated the same under the law, this does not magically reallocate the accumulated resources and advantages, nor negate the possibility of informal differences in treatment. Now say a random member of Group A and a random member of Group B are both attempting to complete Goal X. Assuming equal ability and effort between the two selected participants, the odds are in the favor of the person with the greatest amount of resources and advantages, yes?\n\nThis does not mean that Group A doesn't have to work hard. It does not mean that Group B shouldn't have to work hard. It only means that the person from Group B will likely have to work a little bit harder or be a little bit more talented to overcome having fewer resources or advantages if they want to achieve Goal X.",
"How can we work together to get our politicians and leaders to also believe this message? ",
"Race difference is not an idea. It's a scientific fact. A doctor can be sued from malpractice for not taking in account the race of a patient. Races are biologically different. The difference is way more than skin deep. \n",
"Lok'tar ogar!",
"This is why Phelps couldn't actually race that shark",
"Of course!",
"When someone holds a sign that says: \"Save the rainforest!\", they don't mean that the rainforest is the only type of forest worth saving. They are drawing attention to a particularly vulnerable forest at the moment.\n\nSo, why would anyone assume that people who say \"Black lives matter!\" are also saying \"Black lives are the only lives that matter!\" ?",
"> Sociologists use a whole lexicon to be able to discuss all of these subtleties\n\nsociology student here. there is infact a whole lexicon of terms to describe and differentiate between different froms of discrimination. \n\nhowever there are only a handfull of terms for racial discrimination. is it structural or individual? passive or active? ",
"Deleted",
"Why do we need them? Can't we all agree to share a common morality where we don't commit crimes? ",
"There isn’t a single white person that says black lives don’t matter. \n\nAn entire movement around something that literally **everyone** already agrees with makes absolutely no sense.",
"Urp! Skuze me!",
"In other words \"How about we just ignore that problem even though it's directly relevant to the conversation because I don't have a solution, and/or I don't care\"\n\n..we've been teaching equality for decades. Meanwhile the are real people's lives actually being ruined or lost.",
"It's done on purpose.\n\nFor many individuals they feel they have nothing of worth in their life so they latch on to some pointless idea like their Race defining them - that's their entire source of power and meaning and if you take that away from them, they're no longer better or different, they're just mediocre and unremarkable and their situation has only themselves to blame.\n\nThis is the rock of identity politics - people latching onto some spurious shared identity for strength, and if that sounds familiar to a certain ideology from the 20th century, don't be shocked because it's the same ideological drug in shiny 21st century packaging.",
"All those dogs are the same species. And besides, breeds aren't natural, we created them. ",
"Ethnicity is ultimately a subgroup of race. You can both be black, but he a different ethnicity. There are hundreds, if not thousands of ethnicities in Africa as an example.\n\nAs much as people may wanna pretend we can all just be the same, that just isn't likely to be the case because dividing and categorizing is something our species has been programmed to do over thousands of years. That doesn't mean we can't improve treating different people the same, but simply viewing everyone as one isn't gonna happen. We should celebrate diversity and differences between each other.",
"Yeah because you're really showing everyone how to TRULY come together by calling them \"beta cucks\"...",
"The issue is not that humans don't have variation, because we do. The problem is that words like \"race\" imply that humanity has four or five distinct groups with specific sets of genes, which is false. Humanity has remarkably little variation, in fact, due to both the bottleneck and founder effects. \n\nThe place on Earth with the most human variation is within Africa, but most of society has decided to ignore it in favor of reductionist, ethnocentric classifications. The one we have now, what you'll see on national censuses, is barely more than 2 centuries old, but 90% of people accept it as gospel.\n\nReally what I'm getting at is that \"race\" is a system of clear boundaries when the reality is a sliding scale.\n\nEdit: my favorite article on this, which I always share eagerly: http://www.americananthro.org/ConnectWithAAA/Content.aspx?ItemNumber=2583",
"For sure",
"What of the mole people who live in our precious sewers?",
"There’s been several just today. The Mary poppins one, the old lady with the cunt sign, and this one. Every couple of weeks it seems like it’s “protest sign day”\n \nThey aren’t raising awareness to anything. It’s like real life karma farming\n \nEdit: also the lugenpresse one, wheelchair T-shirt, and trump as Jabba the hut",
"Sad how this isn't tagged as \"US politics\" when it is exactly what needed to be said in the current US political climate.",
"\"Person of Color\"\n\nEveryone but whiteys",
"VICTORY AT SEA!",
"The only answer I ever get is the sentencing disparities between powder and crack cocaine which certainly had a disproportionate effect on African Americans but wasn’t racist legislation for the purpose of racism otherwise dick Durban amd the black caucuse probably wouldn’t have voted in favor of it. It’s like they only present a low resolution image of thier position because they know anything clearer would be torn to shreds, that or they don’t even understand what they are saying. ",
"My great (insert the correct amount of greats) grandfather died as a general in the civil war fighting for the north. My husband and I are actively pursuing changes in zoning, housing, and gerrymandering laws in NY (where we live) to provide an opportunity for equality for all races.\nWhat are YOU doing other than being a racist cock?",
"I love Donald Trump, I also love all races and religions. This is a possible thing. ",
"When people are sure you're brainwashed saying \"just take some time and educate urself you'll figure it out silly children :)))\" is not the way to convince them you're right lmao.\n\nIt literally does not matter if you redefine racism to make it okay for PoC to be prejudiced dickheads. They're still being prejudiced dickheads, and anyone who has managed to avoid the people who have \"educated\" you will see your argument for what it is:\n\nMy ancestors were oppressed. I, alive in the modern Western world, experience none of that oppression from normal people. I've decided that I still get to discriminate and treat people as if they're worth more or less based on the color of their skin. Don't worry, it's okay, it's definitely not racism, because I've crossed out the definition of racism and replaced it with a new one. Just let me continue being prejudiced. Stay in your lane whitey, and maybe educate yourself.",
"Except, whenever a white person says this they are called naive/ignorant and sometimes racist...",
"I literally said word for word; \"Meanwhile, a poster that replaces the word human with White is found RACIST and BANNED\"\n\nIf most people learned how to read, maybe the country would be a better place.",
"*Awwf I go then.* ",
"Im just going by what i was taught in school. If you got some sources for me to read up on i would be glad!",
"Then leave",
"You're thinking too hard for reddit. Photoshop it or appreciate the sentiment. \n\nOn the other hand, I would not equate race to breeds. It could be argued we're all the same breed subjected to many years of climate/cultural differences. Dna wise, as a guess, we're more similar than a mastiff and a chihuahua. That's an argument for somebody smarter than me, though. ",
"I’m down with this",
"Until I was in college I thought ebony pronounced \"E-BONEY\" because I've only ever seen it in porn tags",
"This sign leaves for a lot of diversity...",
"I'm not sure I understood this criticism.\n> A very \"white\" person may very well have more genes in common with a \"black\" person than another \"white\" person, even though the skin tells a lie of difference.\n\nThis is true, there's just statistical clustering. A lot of koreans are taller than a lot of norwegians, but it's still meaningfully true to say that \"norwegians are taller than koreans\", and most people will understand that you don't mean \"everyone in Norway is taller than everyone in Korea\". \n",
"Should have raised the other fist.",
"i would argue that there is no correct or incorrect definition of racism. its a highly contextual term that encompases various concepts. this is why i try to avoid using the term racism where i can. i prefer a more precise description of the concept im trying to convey. ",
"Filthy hobbitses",
"\"This woman is an Uncle Tom\" - liberals",
"Why did you guys decide to start saying \"female\" instead of \"woman\"? Its very creepy and dehumanizing. ",
"You're giving far too much credit to the \"all lives matter\" crowd. They exist entirely because some people don't like \"black lives matter.\" They have no greater point other than saying \"black lives matter is wrong,\" and despite what you seem to think they certainly aren't saying anything about unjustified police shootings being a problem.\n\nThere's nothing wrong with the phrase \"all lives matter\" in the abstract, but the reality of the situation is that the sole purpose of the phrase as it is used is to deny the legitimacy of the \"black lives matter\" protesters.",
"Haha my bad, I didn't even realize you weren't the person I originally replied to. No worries, thanks for the info!",
"What race are you? I have to know so that I can agree with you or call you a bigot ",
"I'd rather be eaten by the Nids than raped by Daemons in the warp for eternity",
"Ok lol. When you say replaces the word human with white you are referring to the poster in the pic that says \"one race, human!\", Are you not? I guess I have to spoon feed you this since you are incapable of understanding what implications are.",
"> It sounds like the white student just had a \"walk a mile in another man's shoes\" experience and he felt it helped him understand the lives of minorities better. \n\nIt didn't help them understand anything, though. They just wanted to feel like the experience had granted them something that makes them morally superior to others. This is the entire problem with every movement. They're not actually trying to make things better. They're psychologically profiteering off of the situation to stroke their egos.\n\nThey go out there and dance around some and wave some pom-poms around and come out of it feeling like they DID SOMETHING. Well, yeah. Great. They took a day to go out and gather together and do their damnedest to selectively ostracize people. That's progress towards some outcome, I guess.\n\nSorry, I'm tired. Just really, really tired.",
"Do you misunderstand willfully or because you're stupid. Genuine question.",
"What is?",
"That's not a race tho is it? I love the message, we are all humans! ",
"Absolutely! ",
"Just like most liberals, I stopped reading after the \"I love Donald Trump\" and have come to the conclusion that you're literally a nazi ",
"Yep. The only thing truly separating us from each other is religion.\n\nAnd by that I mean, all religions. Every single one of them.",
"There’s a comment below mine that explains this rather well.",
"I cannot up vote this enough. Finally some one else gets it!!!",
"damage already done",
"Only OJ was allowed to get away with this (before...well, you know). I think the quote is basically, “I’m not black, I’m OJ”",
"Hopefully more lore. Who's this dark lord? Is the whole world this same \"modern\" world with fantasy creatures? How exactly did the apparent caste system come into play and when was that? \n\nSo many questions lol",
"Greys lives matter",
"if by 'boring' you mean 'an in depth refutation of your smug one liner', then yes. ",
"Ok so the policy says any harassment against a protected class. This includes every race, sex, etc by the *legal* definition however my instructor asked the admins for clarification and they specifically stated \"Minorities cannot harass non-minorities\" I'm sorry that I have no proof but I am far from alt-right. Just going off of what my instructor said he was told (he's also not a right wing nut job)\n\nEdit: by cannot harass I mean cannot be in violation of the harassment policy",
"Cacao is pollinated by [biting midges](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forcipomyia), not mosquitoes.\n\nMosquitoes are just douches.",
"Yeah I don't read that as being \"colour blind.\" People of differing ethnicities and cultures are not also of different races. Sure its used that way casually, but that doesn't make it right. ",
"It was made illegal in the 1930s, and the claim was it was made illegal to arrest black people for free labor. There seems to be more evidence that it was made illegal as part of xenophobia regarding Mexican immigrants. Such as discussed here: http://www.history.com/news/why-the-u-s-made-marijuana-illegal\n\nNone of this is meant to defend the Drug War (or deny that implementation now is not uniform), just bothered by claims that are thrown out there then not backed up.",
"It also doesn't make sense. We are literally different races. Humans are all the same species, not race.",
"Oh really? You really think there are no people out there who disagree with this sign?",
"If you wish to prevail",
"Okay so how about the black lady in this picture who has, extrapolating from the sign, decided to treat people like they are all the same race?\n\nIs she not black enough?\n\nWill you be revoking her membership?",
"Who's gonna grant more rights to the orcs?! ",
"You're entering the realm of what is essentially wrongthink in the social justice camp.\n\nIn some bizarre effort to make the world more accommodating to their beliefs and feelings they've adopted a social constructionist stance where they believe everything such as race, gender and about anything else is a social construct and has no basis in biology - but you and I know it does.",
"Im not going to treat someone differently based on their melanin levels no matter what fucking excuses you come up with. ",
"Hey, wait a sec.",
"MORE DAKKA!",
"When one asks a question regarding biology, they will be met with scientific answers.\n\nThere is no asking that question in an unscientific way, it will always lead back to a scientific answer, if for no other reason than it begs more questions.",
"I got *really* good at drawing boobies.",
"Except human is species...\n\nSource: Definitely a human",
">anarchy-capatalist\n\nYou realise that's not a real thing right?",
"Cultural relativist scum. ",
"Monaco master race. The precision of the driving required there never fails to amaze me.",
"language is a fluid and evolving thing. definitions change. personally i think its rather presumptive to say that any deffinition is correct or incorrect. what matters is that we all agree on the use of the word in the present, and if we cant agree then we should use a different word or phrase that conveys the same concept. ",
"> see my replies, white people are not universally privileged but they don’t experience systemic racism like racial minorities do, so they have privilege.\n\nGot any evidence or peer-reviewed studies to back that up? Or is just more emotionally charged nonsense comprised of made-up words with absolutely no grounding in reality?\n\nYou're just being an irreponsible tool for division. The useful idiot for rich elites who love it when morons like you arbitrarily tear us apart with the sort of cult-like language that belongs in dogmatic scripture.\n\nWe are all poor and we all suffer, it's not a goddamn contest.",
"Who cares what Xenos filth thinks. (Except cute Quarians)",
"I don't have a link right now because I'm in the middle of something, but there is a study that shows that resumés with stereotypically black names get 50% less callbacks compared to those with stereotypically white names. These resumés were otherwise identical and submitted to the same jobs. This is one of the many ways that one's race plays an undeniable role in social mobility. Other statistics (jail time for similar crimes, ability to get loans, etc) can be cited as well.\n\nAdditionally, the idea of a dominant race is not a construction of mine. Dominance and power are the main jumping-off points for the academic discourse around racism.\n\nIt seems like you are the one who does not know what racism is. It is not just mean words and prejudice. It is also factors that persist in the institutions of the US. Most people don't wake up in the morning thinking \"people of color should get less money for their schools\", and in that way racism is much less noticeable to the general public. But regardless, large funding discrepancies still exist in our supposedly \"equitable\" public school system. That is what's called systematic racism, and it is very real.",
"I'll agree with you that that line was pretty bad, but it's how a lot of people feel when you imply that anyone who isn't 'taking responsibility for their racial privilege' is racist.\n\nI am no more in control of the conditions of my birth and upbringing than the colour of the skin I was born with, so why should I feel bad about it? I can certainly be against the *system* that led to those conditions, and do what I can to try and remove it (even if that is very little), because I agree that their is systemic racism.\n\n>With this perspective you can not judge people by race (something you personally do to other people) and still acknowledge that we have systems in place that oppress groups by racial demographics.\n\nI disagree. I do acknowledge that these systems exist, but I view the way to resolve them is not with more discrimination (no matter how well intended) in the opposite direction, but with education about these systems and why they are inherently systemically racist, and why that is bad. These systems didn't just appear out of nowhere, they were created by **people**. And people's minds can be changed if they are shown what harm their actions lead to.\n\nIf everyone was 'colourblind', in a sense, would these systems still exist? I don't think they would, and that's where my view comes from. If everyone viewed it like this, these systems would go away over time, which is why I think the method should be to try and educate people to see through race. Just my thoughts.",
"What's funny about sexually preferences? ",
"But I have a tan...",
"> t's to categorize the world and parse it down so it's easier to understand.\n\nHow's that going? I'd argue not well at all. And how meaningful is it even to try and arbitrarily \"categorize\" people?\n\n> the categorization might not be explicitly consistent\n\nThen it's useless.\n\nIt's pseudo science that was borne out of ideals of European superiority and it's well outlived its usefulness.",
"If someone doesnt see color and treats races the same, they arent racist. The fact that you think their skin color changes that makes you the racist. ",
"Or we're all different and that's ok. No need to unify everyone. animals will eat other animals out of primal instinct regardless of how one animal tries to be more sophiscated than the other. \n\nThere is no message to spread, and we all know it",
"Definitely, biology proves that race doesn't exist. Fuck racism!!! ",
"Yes and when a group of animals share a similar heredity and genetic background and are clearly distinct from others in their species they can be classified by, you know it, race.",
"Oh, I agree! That helps me make my point.\n\nThey're arbitrary traits that are wildly inconsistent.",
"Go away, GallowBoob",
"Surprised nobody realized you were joking. lol",
"As an orc I live in one of the remote strong holds, as that is malakath's will.",
"acutally, you can identify race by skeleton structure, bones, skull, etc..",
"Claiming racism raises way to much money for the left for it to ever go away. People make a living on racism. Even if it was a minuscule issue there will be someone to benefit. ",
"smh anti science stuff getting front page \n\nhttps://imgur.com/a/OUa5z",
"LOL\n\nShow me which gene translates to \"black\" or \"Asian.\"\n\nI'll wait patiently.",
"I imagine myself in Europe, leading my Platoon. Our mission is to stop whTe dogs from advancing. We mow down whTe dogs but they keep coming. I shoot whTe dogs but I run out of ammo so I draw my sword and begin slaughtering whTes, since whTes are way more psychially inferior to me, I slay them by dozens. Then I get shot, but I didn’t fall, I kept fighting. Then shot again and again. whTes were shooting me from a distance like the cowards they are. I lie down, facing up to sky and I see KARA BOĞA (Tengri) smiling at me, I smile back… Then I woke up, in africa, my homeland. My BLACK brethen gave me a warm welcome to heaven. I finally made it, I finally made it into heaven\n\n",
"what if we accept that there are different races because different groups have different ratios of alleles that make us appear different, and like that's fucking ok. And it doesn't mean one is better than the other, just fucking different, and that's fucking ok. fuck.",
"Not if you understand basic statistics they don't.",
"I agree",
"I mean, it wouldn't reflect well on the legacy of Theodore Roosevelt, then a member of the United States Civil Service Commission, if his quote \"Monday we dined at the Camerons; various dago diplomats were present, all much wrought up by the lynching of the Italians in New Orleans. Personally I think it rather a good thing, and said so.\" was popularized.",
"Yep! No races unless my race benefits me. Then my race matters because my ancestors were victims!",
"To the people that keep saying species: Google define human race. ",
"How come nobody ever presents a solution to this problem? ",
"It’s not that big a part. ",
"America 2018",
"Only a sith deals in absolutes",
"I am with you, that's how I look at it. It's hard for me to specifically articulate my understanding, but I am no orator or teacher, so it's not really my specialty. Someone else in this chain has asked me to further explain, and I just can't. Everything I've typed up doesn't feel adequate.",
"Skilled, masked, blonde female warrior constantly living in her brother's shadow.",
"Did you even read what you posted? It says the *belief* that one race is superior or inferior. Anyone can believe that regardless of the actual societal structure. Rasicm is not power plus prejudice, it is just prejudice based on skin color.",
">Porn filters\n\nThat's not racist. /s 😂",
"While I understand and agree with the message I'm just gonna be \"That Guy\" and point out that by definition Race and Species are two fundamentally different things.\n\n:P",
"in fact that is not the case. not sure which science texts you've been reading",
"We're not brainless anymore!",
"Yea but black lives matter. ",
"When I say treat everyone with respect, I’ve been told on here that it’s racist which I disagree with. \n\nOn your point of helping, wouldn’t just (for example) making scholarships needs based without the racial part accomplish this. It will help minorities more proportionally, but it won’t leave the poor white or Asian kid out in the rain. \n\nI bring up feminism because there are areas that women have become more privileged but the programs still are in place instead of changing to help men. Education is a big one. Girls are graduating high school at a much higher rate than boys and now they make up 56% of college campuses. But the womens/girls groups still are present to make it even more unequal. That’s the danger of trying to do the same with race. ",
"Then why do people make a suddenly big deal about it when a minority is underrepresented in literally any sort of media?",
"i hate how big a part of my its become since i started writing essays for uni. its very stressful to have to double check everything to make sure that my meaning is always clear and unmistakable. contexual and abiguous wording seem are frustratingly common in the english language. \n\ni like to think its made me a better writer though.",
"I would have picked one that didn't go bald. ",
"Loktar Ogar",
"This is akin to saying there's only one breed - dog.",
"So by ignoring racism, it just goes away? Great solution!",
"Why should anyone take your word for it?",
"OMG not a holocaust denier! His argument is automatically invalid now! ",
"There are not. Not from the perspective of science, at least.\n\nThere are features which identity someone as having genes more common to an area of the globe, yes, but to reduce the complexity of human variation to four or five terms does not reflect reality. Medical uses of \"race\" are all a game of probability, not a sturdy system of classification. It's useful to know if someone has features more likely to found in Africa if you were trying to determine if they could have sickle cell, for example. If someone had a stumpier, more compressed skeleton, there's a good chance they have ancestry from a colder climate, etc etc. It's about chance, not forcing someone into a racial category.\n\nTo those downvoting me, perhaps you would interested in reading this: http://www.americananthro.org/ConnectWithAAA/Content.aspx?ItemNumber=2583\n\nConsider for one moment that the way you were raised to see the world - and our species - is a misrepresentation of a complex reality. Consider that society is wrong here - this website always seems eager to disagree with society, except when it means reevaluating their own views.",
"Well, right now I can go to another white male and tell them \"hey I don't like you\" because they're acting like an asshat and that's ok(well, they might not appreciate it, but no-one else cares). But if I do that to anyone else I'm a racist or sexist.\n\nPart of \"all being the same\" is accepting that sometimes people don't like you because of who you are, not your race/gender/religion.",
"What it should say, if it were to be more accurate, \"one species, human\". It's like saying that dogs and wolves are the same because they're the same species; Completely nonsensical. ",
"I was born with this idea. I am so lost in this world. I feel so alone. The decisions we've made as a species.. I can't even begin to understand. But the connection the internet has brought us, is beautiful. I may not have the knowledge or power to do anything right now.. But it's nice to know people are, and maybe one day I/we will feel free. Be free. ",
"Yeah but you’re looking at it from a limited perspective. Even in sweden, he will probably still be considered “black” or “other”, instead of JUST swedish, or at least swedish and black. Because sweden is a predominantly caucasian country. I’m black british and while i do consider myself to be british, i also consider myself to be black because that’s a part of my identity. I don’t know why people are so hellbent on trying to make nationality and race interchangeable. They aren’t. ",
"What a world we live in where the word \"educate\" has a taint to it. What a world we live in where someone saying their experiences aided them in coming to what they believe to be a correct understanding is met with being accused of being condescending.\n\nI wish you nothing but the best.",
"This is honestly the message we jave been missing in both the right and the left. Sick of the divisive bullshit on both sides.",
"You're definitely talking about culture and not race. Race is primarily a social construct. ",
"How is this political?",
"> Similar to how black lives matter isn't saying black lives are the only lives that matter but is actually saying that our lives matter too.\n\n\nThere isn’t a single white person that says black lives don’t matter. \n\nAn entire movement around something that literally **everyone** already agreed with makes absolutely no sense. Which is why All Lives Matter started. ",
"Technically that is the black power salute so -5 points for that. Black power, white power, all bad in my book, we need the power of humanity as a whole. ",
"A lot of people are surprised by this fact. They apparently think that \"race\" reflects a large cluster of genetic commonalities that makes them different than other phenotypically and culturally defined groups. That is, they think the skin tells the story of deep differences along multiple genetic markers, when it only marks a difference in terms of certain specific genetic markers. There are differences between all of us, but are these differences that matter enough to actually mark a real distinction (i.e., distinction without a real difference)? In case of treating sickle cell anemia, yes. In case of diagnosing violence or creativity or whatever, no. And we should remember that not all statistically significant findings are of any practical import (i.e., small effect size). ",
"I’m a big banana... I’m not really human ",
"Classic liberal logic. Aren’t nazis liberals? \nNazi = national socialist. ",
"But it was a mess.",
"Lol the irony ",
"That’s just fuckin retarded...\n\n/s\n\nBut seriously, the fact that you’re talking about a person is already implied. ",
"And? A poor person living in a trailer doesn't care and they never receive this phantom privilege you speak of.\n\nThis is what you don't understand. Literally nobody except a self-loathing moron is going to care what invisible magic benefits they have if they still aren't getting what they actually want out of life. If you then tell them they're so much better placed, they will only seathe with resentment.\n\nThe solution to inequality is a shared effort, it's not stupid divisive language like this.",
"\"All Lives Matter\" was created to diminish \"Black Lives Matter,\" specifically. ",
"Considering all \"pure-breds\" were mixed with other breeds, to breed the perfect \"pure-bred\" for a certain job, I'm gonna go ahead and say yes, dog is one breed. ",
"It may not be racist, but it is wilful ignorance and stupidity ",
">You're bringing up the topics of what you view as unfair favoritism to non-whites.\n\nNo, I'm bringing up examples of what is seen as \"acceptable\" race hierarchy\n\n>I'm brining up reasons why that happens\n\nNo you aren't, not in any way\n\n>and why it should continue to happen until certain problems are solved\n\nThen you're going against the OP's argument which stated that:\n\n>>The whole concept of race hiarchy has been responsible for some heinous atrocities throughout human history.\n\nCongratulations\n\n>It's a pretty clear connection.\n\nThere is no connection. The BBC choosing to only hire non-whites has no impact over the white or black community aside from who gets hired. Google choosing to throw a temper tantrum when the rest of a panel they're invited on has no effect on black or white communities, aside from the people on the panel that they get disinvited because of it. \n\nNow go be retarded somewhere else please.",
"https://www.npr.org/2017/05/17/528822128/the-color-of-law-details-how-u-s-housing-policies-created-segregation\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_segregation_in_the_United_States\n\nhttps://www.brookings.edu/research/time-for-justice-tackling-race-inequalities-in-health-and-housing/\n\nhttps://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/\n\nhttps://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/the-racist-housing-policy-that-made-your-neighborhood/371439/\n\nEnough proof?\n\nAnd yes, I’m sure the racist upper class wants people to use language that reveals their racist system and unites people against them",
"Why not Zoidberg?",
"This is the kinda message that the intended audience for Get Out would support. The “I don’t see race” crowd. ",
"Reddit has such a massive cucked Jew community ",
"Yeah I think you’re right, I’ll edit my comments",
"That’s awesome and so true ✌️❤️ peace and love to all",
"I thought human was a species ",
"Ah yes, name calling. Maybe you should run for president.",
"When someone says they don't see color, they discount any cultural identifiers and pride that the observed person may have. Is it wrong to have pride in one's own culture? Because this post advocates homogeneity",
"Bruv.. that’s what I’m saying !",
"no u.",
"https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=white+privilege&oq=white+pri",
"I identify as an Elven-Dwarf.",
"Wtf, how did Jews get pulled into this? ",
"That’s the level the dumpster fire in chief operates on.\n\nWe can go back to being reasonable whenever the administration starts acting like adults again. It’s only been a year, I’m sure they’ll get their balls out of their purse any time now.\n\nNope, my mistake, they are on the same childish run they’ve been on since the black man got elected and spent 8 years being better than any Republican since Eisenhower. ",
"Pretty ironic for GallowBolb to post this when he consistently posts in subs that literally only allow posts about one certain race.",
"I wish we could all act like that ",
"I want this on a t-shirt",
"What about otherkin?",
"https://i.imgur.com/QfrELPl.jpg",
"> We can't ignore that racism exists and pretend to be color blind to it though.\n\nYes we can you goddamn imbecile because that's precisely how we kill it off.\n\nIf nobody cares about race, then racism stops existing. It's really that easy.",
"Well that’s great that YOU feel that way, but if you think that the majority of people feel that way, then you need to get out more. Racism is still too predominant of a problem for all that “peace and love we are all human we all came from africa” poppycock bullshit ",
"The elves should have never left. ",
"> This does not mean that Group A doesn't have to work hard. It does not mean that Group B shouldn't have to work hard. It only means that the person from Group B will likely have to work a little bit harder or be a little bit more talented to overcome having fewer resources or advantages if they want to achieve Goal X.\n\nThis also doesn’t mean that white people, knowing they “have” white privileges put a handicap on themselves just because people think they are more advantageous. It’s kinda unfair to bring up the past just to win, isn’t it?\n\nSo it’s the white man’s fault that your grandfather’s poor. Fair enough. Welfare it is for your father. \n\nNow you’re also blaming them for being poor while you yourself are lazy? What the fuck?\n\nFILE_ERROR",
">general",
">Would you be surprised that ~~poor~~ economically challenged black culture is just as oppressive as a majority of economically challenged white culture, and there are a large amount of cultural cross over?\n\nNo, it would fit with the numbers.\n\n>Yes, poverty does effect more minorities by percentage but poverty isn't a race issue, poverty is the issue.\n\nI never said anything to the contrary.\n\nYour comment makes me think you're responding to the wrong person or misread my comments entirely.",
"Arise! Arise, Riders of Theoden! Spears shall be shaken, shields shall be splintered! A sword day... a red day... ere the sun rises! Ride now!... Ride now!... Ride! Ride to ruin and the world's ending! Death! Death! DEATH! Forth, Eorlingas!\n\nSuch an epic scene ",
"You can be part of a problem and not have it be your fault.\n\nUnless you happen to be someone who is involved in research that creates a device to actively eliminates carbon from the atmosphere you are contributing to global warming by simply being alive, breathing and consuming things.\n\nYou can do less, but the fact is, as a human race, we have caused a global crisis. Every single person alive is contributing to it but it was actions taken long before any of us were born that set us on this path.\n\nBy simply existing, you are contributing to global warming. That does not mean you are to be blamed for it, but you have to acknowledge you are part of the problem even if you did everything you could to reduce your carbon footprint.\n\nCan you understand how that is true?",
"Which got replaced with a video of the Ferguson police chief calling all black people monkeys. \n\nFerguson is notorious for its racial hostility, stretching all the way back to post world war one america. \n\nThink of Mike Brown's death as the spark that lit a 100 year old powder keg. ",
"If you had literally anything to say you could say it without attempting to \"win\" by calling him stupid, telling him to educate himself, reminding everyone that you're morally superior, and laughing at him. That is not an argument. It doesn't convince anyone of anything other than \"that guys a dickhead.\"",
"Sure. In a perfect world, we could treat everyone as is race was never invented. But it was, so we have to deal with it now. We can't just drop it suddenly and act like everything will be fine when it seriously impacts people's lives",
">Wouldn't this be more culture instead of race?\n\nPeople like to use 'culture' as a euphemism for race. For example, Senator Steve King said that \"[Dutch politician Geert] Wilders understands that culture and demographics are our destiny. We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies.\"\n\nIf he really means culture, why can't we raise \"somebody else's babies\" in our culture, and 'restore our civilization' that way? \n\nIt's because culture is sometimes just a euphemism for race.\n",
"How can anyone be prejudiced? We all have the same heart. Culture, education, family traditions, etc., creates prejudiced. Would your Dr. dad be excited about his daughter marrying an uneducated, socially backwards, ugly guy?? \nTruth is... We like others that are like us. ",
"When the Irish first migrated to America a few centuries ago the term \"white\" was just being invented. Sadly we weren't allowed to be called white, it was cool new phrase for the wealthy Europeans and the Irish weren't that category by a long shot. I don't know what they called us , drunks maybe !\n\nOver time we got to be called white. America has invented so many amazing things but the term White, was a terrible one. None of us are white, we're pink, beige, pale blue , and I'm just talking about Conan O Brien here. Let's retire white, and black too. \n\nI know people who are really white though , but they're Japanese , they actually have closest thing I've seen to white skinned people . So let's make the Japanese the only \"whites\"...just so the racists have a hard time chanting \"white power\" without a large group of Japanese tourists gathering to take pictures. ",
"I agree, these humans still have to come here LEGALLY though.",
"Todays political climate is based in ignorance at its core. There will be friction but you can't run from truth forever. The human race will get even stranger once you start incorporating cybernetic and genetic enhancements. It will start for sure with prosthetics and cure for disease, but why not get lung upgrades and stronger muscles? Skin color? Child's play. One of the hardest problems in philosophy is defining what is human, and what are human rights? If one is considered human, should the superficial form matter when determining rights and how one is treated?",
"It's not racist... just insensitive... it kind of implies that we shouldn't pay attention specifically to races that are struggling - it's like saying \"all lives matter\" - like, yes all lives _do_ matter... but why do black lives matter less at the moment? saying \"all lives\" takes away the specificity of the problem faced by a specific race.\n\nIt's like walking into an AIDS fundraiser and saying \"well yeah but what about psoriasis\" ",
"“However, Buehler said that the difference between his study and the paper published in the NBER is that he measured death rates per total population size and the NBER report examined rates of the use of lethal force per numbers of \"high-risk encounters,\" such as an encounter that involved an aggravated assault against an officer rather than a routine traffic stop.”\n",
"This could be bad for intergalactic aliens that aren’t humans :( ",
">everything is a social construct \n\n\nHow to spot a gender studies major",
"Humans have treated other humans terribly for thousands of years, do not think we will invite aliens with open arms.",
"Yes they are (raising awareness). That's exactly the function of protests. It's a way of spreading a message in a way that gets that message coverage. By the news. By social media. You seeing the sign on reddit alone means the sign has served its function.",
"Agreed, the sentiment is valuable, but some people will never get it. \n\nThe one's making it all about race are the ones accusing the other side of racism. We either all come together right now to make america great or not at all. ",
"Sounds like someone got a white hero complex",
"I've been called racist several times for saying this. Race is primarily a social construct. Only created to classify and divide. ",
"Fair comment",
"Good! I don't want to hear about affirmative action or none of that bullshit anymore.",
"She can act like race doesn't exist all she wants, but it certainly won't make her life better. She will still feel the effects of systemic racism.",
"The problem is that you see not actively fighting racism as condoning it. I don't work as a police officer that arrests pedophiles. That doesn't mean I condone pedophiles.\n\nHee hee, hope this was useful! :))))\nDaily reminder to educate yourself! :)\nFeel free to be less stupid heehee! :) fun talking to you! :))))",
"I mean... that's arguably biologically untrue but ok. ",
"Sexism and racism don't really exist anymore though besides in tiny segregated pockets of society. By and large it's a figment of most peoples imagination that they hang on to in order to give their life some relevance so they can spend time fighting the imaginary fight.\n\nIn fact it has almost become a badge of honor for women and non-whites to proudly shout their gender/race at the top of their lungs, they want to hold on to it as their primary identifying characteristic, especially in today's society where that behavior is beneficial to them and often rewarded through the nature of identity politics. \n\nWe reached a point in time, probably around the turn of the 21st century, where women could have stopped talking about how they're proud women, where men could have stopped talking about how they're proud men, where blacks could have stopped talking about their black pride, and whites could have stopped talking about their white pride, along with every other nationality and group doing the same, but for some reason we were drawn into this modern identity politics game and it has run roughshod through every equality and political discussion for the last ~20 years. \n\nWe missed our chance.",
"my pocket guide for talking about discrimination(not always perfect but usually conveys my meaning):\n\nis it based on class, sexuality, ethnicity/race or religion?\n\nis it stuctural, individual(inter-personal) or self/internal?\n\nis it active (direct/conscious/intentional) or passive(unintentional/unconscous)?\n\ne.g. nazi germany practiced active structural ethnic discrimination against the jews. ",
"> Is there interbreeding in Bright?\n\nOh, I hope so. That Inferi though.",
"> These early ALM advocates had good intentions but created friction with BLM because their inclusive message was seen as a deflection and dismissal of the BLM message about racial bias. The BLM crowd wanted to emphasize the disproportionate impact of police brutality in their advocacy, and a generic message would have drowned out this issue. \n\n\nThis is where you lose me. If the ALM idea was that no lives should matter more than any other, doesn’t that achieve the same outcome as what BLM wanted?\n\nSounds like BLM was upset that the attention wasn’t drawn only to black people, but to all the races (other than white). I don’t get how saying all lives matter is a dismissal of black lives matter, considering black lives are included within the “all.”",
"Lok'tar!",
"Did you just assume my species? ",
"Because the level of genetic variation is completely different. ",
"If it were only a matter of perspective.. Sigh...",
"edit: [don't take my word for it.](http://www.americananthro.org/ConnectWithAAA/Content.aspx?ItemNumber=2583)\n\nExcept instead of playing word games, you could think about this in a broader context. People die every day because of society's perception of race. Racism is an invented form of hatred for an invented group of people - an excuse to hate the unfamiliar, ignoring reality - but even so, it has resulted in human suffering untold. The KKK murdered thousands in the name of a falsehood. Little girls were slaughtered at church for it. And that's just America.\n\nSo you can choose to use this outdated term and participate, perhaps with good intentions, in a centuries-long fiction, or you can help society accept science and reason over bias and assumption. Your choice.",
">I didn't put race into these. I put ethnicity. Very different ideas.\n\nNo, they're the same. The only difference between race and ethnicity is the injection of culture; which changes nothing in the conversation at hand. \n\n>So people who have been abused by the State, we hold no responsibilities to them?\n\nNo group of people around right now have been \"abused by the State\", individual people have. And no, we hold no responsibilities for those individuals. The state owes the monetary compensation for whatever abuse occurred to them personally, determined by the court whenever they take that abuse received there. And that's it.",
"She's Fabulous",
"Yeah, of course I am. I don't agree with the idea that the children of rich families have the right to remain rich. ",
"All lives matter?",
"Lmao it’s not rigged to make posts that people like. ",
"What message does this bring awareness to? \n \nWhat message did the Mary Poppins sign bring awareness to? ",
"You are pointing out intraracial conflicts that aren’t comparable interracial conflicts. Minorities suffer at the hands of their own communities as well, that doesn’t mean to undermine the danger and problem of interracial oppression.",
"Hopefully I run across Hoshgrish the Friendly first ",
">Roughly, the \"definitions\" of races don't follow genetic lines\n\nWhich definitions? The way the word is used by laymen? \n\n>and in many cases there's more diversity within a race than across races\n\nYour statement is also true of men and women, but I don't think you would say that sex is a social construct, or would you? \n\n>It's also by definition arbitrary where we would define the line as to what would be considered one race or the other, in the same way different people might draw the line at different places between blue and green.\n\nThere is always some level of arbitrariness involved in putting things into categories, but it doesn't mean there aren't strong reasons for doing so. You probably believe there are good practical reasons for placing blue and green into different categories, even though they exist on a spectrum. \n\n**From the study you linked to**\n\n>Adaptive traits, such as skin color, have frequently been used to define races in humans\n\nThis is a good example of the wrong way to use the word \"race.\" \n\n>There are no objective criteria for choosing one adaptive trait over another to define race. As a consequence, adaptive traits do not define races in humans.\n\nI don't think it follows that because one characteristic can't be used to define a race, that no collection of characteristic can either. But if you think that conclusion follows, let me know how. \n\n>A tree-like structure among humans has been falsified whenever tested, so this practice is scientifically indefensible. \n\nI don't know whether a tree is the best way to represent the races, so I won't try to defend the tree structure. However, a tree shape isn't the only way to represent differing genetic clusters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_clustering\n\n>Humans have much genetic diversity, but the vast majority of this diversity reflects individual uniqueness and not race.\n\nThis is an example of [Lewtonin's Fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genetic_Diversity:_Lewontin%27s_Fallacy).",
"Me not that kind of orc!",
"I'm kind of confused as to who you're referring to when you say \"they\". At first I thought you meant the members of the class (\"it didn't help them understand anything\"). Then you go on to talk about what appears to be a specific group of people that you don't appear to like?\n\nI think I kind of understand where you're coming from - like those people who are content to make \"woke\" statements but don't have any interest in creating tangible solutions? I'm as annoyed by that as anyone else, but I think the experience the white student described is the exact opposite of that. He put himself in a situation where he learned how the other half lives, so to speak, and he learned from it. Learning from each other and having (real) discussions with each other seems like the foundation for progress.",
"Nah, the people who voted for Hillary have the exact diametrically opposed problem: A tremendous amount of faith in the status quo. ",
"You can ignore it but it won’t erase the fact that black women are 3 to 4 times for likely to die while pregnant or giving birth than white women. It won’t erase that Latinos have one of the lowest rates of educational attainment in the US. \n\nWe have to talk and address racial differences if we want to fix the disparities but a lot of people seem to want to pretend differences don’t exist or that those impacted by differences should “get over it” ",
"Serious answer: Systemic racism has been dead for 50+ years in the US.\n\nThere are some after-effects of it going all the way back to the reconstruction. Former slaves were discriminated against and the parents and grandparents of currently-living black Americans faced discrimination in workplaces, education, and training that cause generational poverty, and a higher proportion of black Americans being in lower income brackets, and having an in-group subculture that promotes crime, violence, and avoiding formal education, glorifying government assistance, and so on.\n\nThe problem with it is, outcomes are more closely affected by poverty than race... it's just that some races are *more likely* to end up in poverty. ",
"It's called wokeness fam. Look it up",
"Of course blanket statements like that aren’t 100% completely accurate, but even poor white people have some privilege over black people. It’s probably much easier for a white person to escape poverty than a black person (but I don’t have anything to back that up so please correct me if life doesn’t reflect that)",
"alternate theory: words have meanings and science is a thing.",
"That's a good pocket guide. I like it!",
"The answer is not to ruin other people lives by teaching toxic ideologies like intersectionality. ",
"lol, some racism is good amirite?",
"I worked at Carmax 15yrs ago. I was the kid that prepped your car (wash, gas, clean windows) while you were signing paperwork. On weekends there would be 3 of us prepping cars. When you were done you waited for the customer so you could show them how any of that vehicles gadgets worked (gps, remote start, etc). One weekend it was me (white) and 2 co-workers (black). I prepped a car and waited. When the customer (black) came out the salesman told them I’d help them with the car. The customer said “no thanks, we’ll wait for one of the other guys”. I was confused so I asked them what was wrong and they ignored me. Later my co-worker told me the customer didn’t want “help from any honky”. Racism can happen to anyone. ",
"What sort of opinions were you expressing? Censorship like that sounds pretty bad, but these days a stranger on the internet vaguely referring to their \"conservative opinions\" is just as likely to be talking about genuinely bannable abuse... just trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here.",
"Cool? I wasn’t saying that’s how we should act *now* really but hopefully in the near future.\n\nAlso I’m a bit put off by your last part. “Racism is still too predominant of a problem for all that “peace and love we are all huma we all came from Africa” poppycock bullshit”\n\nWhat? I don’t know if it just how you worded it but it doesn’t seem like your in favor of using peace to combat this “predominance of racism” (keep in mind I’m not saying it doesn’t exist by using those quotations but rather jabbing at your wording, you make it sound like the world today hasn’t change in the last 60 years.)\n\nAnd back to my first part of that, can you please describe how you *would* combat this racism? Because frankly if you think violence in any way is going too help destroy it your only going to bite yourself in the ass.\n\nEdit: also idk y you even thought that’s what I thought the overall consensus was on how we should act. I don’t think I ever stated that.",
"Humans are animals. ",
"I think that as an individual, you have no responsibility beyond what you've stated. Treat all people as respectfully as you can, and acknowledge that at the very least, some races have been hugely disadvantaged by historical racial hierarchy, and that those disadvantages still exist. I'd say that your responsibility has been met if you're a decent person in these ways. \n\nBut if you want to do more, there are plenty of ways you can volunteer your time and energy to making the world a better place for everyone involved, and move society toward a truly race-free place. Think of it like people who went to volunteer in New Orleans after Katrina or Haiti after the earthquake. For this problem, we need most people to change their thinking, and the most dedicated will put in the extra work. But changing the thinking of most people is the step that you can probably do the easiest: acknowledge the problem, don't let other people sweep the problem under the rug, stop laughing and/or telling race jokes, educate people you encounter that seem to be misinformed about the actual problem. \n\nSo to recap: \n\n#1 If you're a decent person, great! \n\n#2 If you can do more, awesome! \n\n#3 If you are too busy or lazy this week to help, ok! \n\n#4 If you deny there's a problem, that's when we have to revisit #1",
"No one is advocating that. I want everyone to be treated equally under the law. In fact, that is the law right now. ",
"LET US STAY OUT OF /r/botsrights BEEP",
"I think the argument for affirmative action is more nuanced than that, and you are oversimplifying a complex situation.\n\n>Does this mean that we don't give certain races preferential treatment over others to fulfill quotas?\n\nThe status quo is that we are giving certain races preferential treatment over others. \n\n>Job applicants with white names needed to send about 10 resumes to get one callback; those with African-American names needed to send around 15 resumes to get one callback.\nhttp://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html\n\nNames are not a qualification - clearly we don't live in a fully meritocratic society just yet. So obviously, affirmative action is supposed to correct for this bias and move us towards an employment situation that more closely resembles a meritocratic society. Whether or not the execution has been successful in achieving that is debatable, but it's wrong of you to suggest that proponents of it are racist or that they think that suggesting humans should be treated equally is incorrect.\n\nWe're not choosing between a meritocratic society and and unmeritocratic society. We're choosing between an unmeritocratic society and and unmeritocratic society that more closely resembles a meritocratic society. ",
"Can confirm. Is picture. Appropriate thread. ",
"\n>In my opinion the largest of these reasons is the prevailing culture in black communities that denigrates black children any time they move towards success. I was regularly criticized and told I was \"acting white\" when I made efforts academically, by other black kids and even some parents. Likewise there's a lot of hate towards our country in these communities, so anyone who supported our military or wanted to enlist was similarly derided.\n\nMaybe I misread your intentions with this particular block of text. Thought you were saying that economically challenged black kids had it harder than any other economically challenged ethic group in America. \n\n",
"[Forensic DNA phenotyping](https://www.forensicmag.com/news/2017/01/parabons-dna-phenotyping-had-crucial-role-north-carolina-double-murder-arrest-conviction)",
"You're going to base how you act around what the baby-in-chief does? the Russians really have won if that's the new standard.",
"Lol.\n\nI felt it was a substantial enough to put up there, as I myself prefer certain skin tones over others, and see no harm in doing so",
"No one does. Rich kids definitely have the chance to lose their wealth and the vast majority do within two generations. ",
"There's a thousand different species of mosquito, many of which do not drink blood, and almost none of which drink human blood. In fact, the [largest species of mosquito](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxorhynchites) feeds on plants as an adult, and on the larvae of other mosquitos when young. ",
"thanks",
"You're solution doesn't work. You want to teach people to spot racism. This will only lead to a further regression into 'nit picking' the smallest details. A better solution is to teach people no to care about race.\n",
"Basically everything is a social construct but that doesn’t mean we don’t treat it like its a real thing",
"Yes! Praise the ^^^^^Four-Armed Emperor!",
"Watch out we got a post history detective over here, your kind always gives me a chuckle. \n\n\"dont upboat this guy fellas, I have too much free time and stalked him and he's a big ol meanie!\"",
"But those economic differences would fade away faster than they will in the situation that we have today. Again, it would take at least a generation to even start seeing differences, but if the next generation of children didn't see color, then the next generation of *employers* wouldn't see color, and then you fall into a situation in which merit is stronger than bias.\n\nWorst case scenario, minorities stay in poverty because this reason or that reason, they still don't have to worry about *discrimination* anymore.",
"the effects in the hobbit make those in lotr look like clip art",
"In a way I have to agree with you. I see your point, but I don't like to stereotype people that excessively. But hey, I'd rather exaggerate here and there while trying to find truth (conspiracies), than close my eyes and be blind to any truth at all.\n\nLuckily I didn't have to make a choice and vote at all. ",
"I’m predicting this post will be locked in 4 hours, with 5 Gold.",
"I’m not American so I’m not going to comment on any of that as I’m mostly ignorant to it.",
"All I can do is realise I'm not qualified to diagnose just how racist I am. Is there some expert or insitution I can employ to inform me? Not that knowing will help me in any way, since I can't change my condition of 'toxic whiteness', even if I dyed myself brown, because I still would have grown up inherently privileged. \n\nMaybe it's for the best that rates of white male depression, disengagement and suicide are [skyrocketing](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/usatoday/editorial/graphics/2016/04/042216-US-suicide-rates.jpg)! Maybe we just dont deserve to be a part of this world any more!",
"HUMAN?",
"I am a layman (zero degrees in anything, least educated person in the room anywhere but a family reunion), and the term is \"systemic.\" If someone is at all interested in what racism is, introducing them to the fact that the term and phenomenon have a historical context and are not some universal abstract ideal seems like a good place to start. ",
"1 race, while useing the black power fist.",
"So you're solution is to further concentrate on it?\n",
"One goal: Happy",
"Username... checks out?",
"Dog lives matter",
"Say what you mean or just stop.",
"> No one is advocating that\n\nRight, but why not? If relying on everyone to eventually hold your personal morals is enough to create a just society, why don't we advocate for the end of laws? \n",
"That’s my take on it as well, intergenerational poverty and the mindset that comes from poverty is the issue that needs to be addressed. Instead of tearing down others to make things equal we need investments to help lift them up. I think most adults recognize the extra hurdles to stability and prosperity that African Americans face. There are about 10,000 facets to helping solve this issue, shaming white people with collective guilt is not one of them, it will only hurt. ",
"I never said anything about violence. I’m just saying that pretending it doesn’t exist is bad. And asking me to describe how i’d combat racism is pretty ridiculous lol. ",
"But at the end of the day, you shrugged and went home and had dinner and didn't really care all that much since it was the only thing like that you experienced in a long time, I would be willing to bet.",
">All corgis are short and kinda long by definition\n\nSo, there are no abnormally tall Corgis? \n\n>The only thing that defines race is skin color.\n\nThat's the wrong way to use the word \"race.\" \n\n>And when it comes to what isn't allowed (categorizing people via race) is because humans aren't animals.\n\nAre you kidding? \n\n>It's socially acceptable to put down your dog because of vet bills.\n\nWhat does this have to do with anything? \n\n>It's relatively socially acceptable to breed dogs for profit or for certain features (even physical ones). though that is changing.\n\nAgain, what does this have to do with the original topic? ",
"Start by not allowing yourself to be lulled into complacency by nice sounding but gutless \"deep thoughts\" \n\nYou don't change a system like racism (or sexism) by going - yes let's all just be equal. And...go! \n\nThe dirty ugly process is NOT FUN. Unpacking all this poison is hard but it's necessary. It's the opposite of nice sayings like \"we should all just get alone\" and \"one race the human race!\" because people who have been under the thumb of the power in the system will go...YEA, SO? WHEN YOU GONNA START CHANGING THINGS? Because nice thoughts have no actionable power. They just allow the person in power to say \"I agree with you\" while continuing to do absolutely nothing. This is a real problem. People who mean well will absolutely think \"well it's THEM OVER THERE that's the real racists/real problems\" and will focus all their energy on calling out others while being completely blind to their own biases, and when called on theirs are often overly defensive or resort to these nice thoughts. \n\nIn a big way it starts 100% with examining your own biases and racism. Every day, every moment. Accept your racism. If you are white in this country, you are racist. I am. We can't begin to fix the problem unless we each take stock in our own personal stake in it. And for white people, it means that we've been taught from day 1 on this earth the way it is. You learn biases that only take ACTIVE WORK to get rid of. That means when you have that internal thought that is racist you say - look at how I was going to judge that person/that situation just because of the person's race. You don't get cocky. You must have humility. Embrace humility. You choose to feel \"judged\" by it because you're not taking that energy and doing something productive. Choose humility and push away defensiveness.\n\nVery important: Listen. Use social media or in person connections but listen to people different than you. Don't talk. Don't ask questions. It's ok if not every single one of your conflicting feelings are addressed or questions answered. It's ok to sit with those complicated feelings. Every good ally has some wall they will hit where they will feel very sure THEY are right and the person experiencing the harm is wrong. So you get defensive - stop that. It's instinctual. You'll want to have your back patted for doing good. Shrug off that instinct. Notice something about all this advice: do not center yourself.\n\nNow, when you hear other people in white spaces saying some bullshit, do call them on it, and share what you've learned. Don't speak \"for\" black people (they are not monolith and you don't speak for them anyway) but speak of your experiences and things you've learned. Share your journey. Admit your own faults and lead by example to be better. ",
"> Building a society based off the sins of past generations\n\nHuh? That's not what the thing you're criticizing is about.. what are you talking about?\n\n>Most reasonable people that don’t spend their academic years in focused hate sessions \n\nOhhh. You have no idea what you're talking about, that explains a lot",
"If that were true you couldn't tell someone's race from their DNA. But you can. So guess who is objectively wrong?",
"Ok. You’re still completely wrong, and have done nothing other than describe your baseless opinions without source or citation. Here, since you’re too smart to use a dictionary or look up the definition of a word, I’ll do it for you. \n\nRACISM: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.\n\nObviously, this long-standing definition of racism doesn’t allow some people of color (who have made poor life decisions ) to blame those poor decisions on white people they’ve never met, so they pretend racism is something else entirely because it supports their argument. \n\nAny discrepancy between the races that you find, likely has a non-racist cause. Please provide me evidence to the contrary. ",
"It's a general statement. Generally, most people agree with it.",
"Is it that hard to make a connection?\"One Race: Human\". \n\nWe weren't talking about the Mary Poppins thing. I haven't seen that one.",
"I think that's fair. I'm certainly aware that the problem exists and that I am somewhat privileged and fortunate for my birth conditions, and that others are less fortunate based on race and other factors, and that this can and should be corrected. However, this also doesn't mean I should be ashamed of my own initial conditions because I cannot control them. Thanks for answering my question!",
"I don't know why you think I disagree with you when you say it's a mistake to classify \"white\" as a race. ",
"Sorry. I was projecting the details of the story onto modern activist movements. Regarding the actual topic, it's more I see it where you have this person who inserted themself into a situation where they were deliberately the outsider and then tried to draw conclusions based off of the experience. The very core of the experience was compromised. You can't really claim to have walked in anyone else's shoes regarding that, especially with the details. That wasn't their only option. They weren't coming from the same place. They don't have the experiences where their experience doing what they did would be of any relevance. They went out looking for something and then he tried to act like he had been through some enlightening personal experience regarding racial struggle.\n\nThere's a difference between bigotry, prejudice by ignorance, and being spiteful because someone is deliberately trying to put themself in a situation as if it would give them some better understanding of you.",
"That's really the best course of action. It's annoying though that a sub called r/politics can be that way. If it was r/extremeleft or something I would have no problem with it.",
"I am seeing a lot of that discomfort here, today.",
"So whats your point of commenting on [someone saying its a designation]? [] Is the object lol.",
"There's some lady holding a sign that says *one race human*? Oh wow! Let's have all those illegal immigrants and criminals enter our country!",
"How is it a social construct then?\n",
"Because you'll ignore broader problems.\n\nExplain Jim Crow without referring to race. Explain segregation while \"viewing people on an individual basis.\" Explain Birtherism without talking about race.\n\nBeing colorblind mutes any discussion of racism.",
"\"STOP POKING MEEEeee!!\"",
"Because the minority of people that don’t follow a homogeneous culturally enforced morality still need to be prosecuted by written law. Otherwise we live by mob rule. ",
"Well the way your worded your comment made me think that might be the case, which I guess was wrong of me, apologies.\n\nAnd pretending it does exist is bad but I feel as if nowadays people bundle up white people in general whenever a racist thing happens when we should all work together to disown the person (which would be in line with the idea of the poster as well)\n\nAs for the last part, there’s no need to bring it up as my assumption was wrong it seems.",
"I genuinely don't think you've understood what I said at all, judging by the points you raise that don't even really seem to counterpoint mine. I never suggested anyone put a handicap on themselves, nor blaming anyone for being poor or lazy.\n\nEarly you asked why it was fair to make the White grandson pay for the sins of the racist. Let me ask you - why is it fair to make the Black grandson pay instead?",
"I'm not sure where intersectionality comes into what you're saying.\n\nI'd suggest you read the historical examples section [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_rule#Historical_examples)",
"Yes, I understood that. Do you understand that that doesn't validate the second part of your statement that nothing is challenged? Like, seriously, there literally are disagreeing viewpoints to the concept that we are all human and therefore in principle equal. Are you saying we shouldn't stand up to those people and challenge their beliefs?",
"Right? \"I hate white people. They are a bunch of racists.\" That is what it seems to boil down to in many people's minds and it's so delusional. Hating white people in general IS racism. At least the white supremacists just think they are better than everyone else for reasons that are not accurate, but far less ironic than the reasons minorities hate whites.",
"Finally, one of my people",
"We agree on that point. Using \"race\" in that way is incorrect. ",
"not according to biologists",
"No way that we'll accomplish that in our lifetime. Still way too easy to blame other nationalities for problems. ",
"generally, it's not challenged. Bad wording from my side perhaps. Perhaps you're deliberatly are looking for holes in my comment. \n\nI'm not gonna play the \"so you're saying\"-game. you can watch channel 4 for that.",
"We'll unify as a species when the AI starts taking over. Then it'll be too late.\n\nDad: \"Damn it, Claudia, I told you, you can't date cloud boyfriends!\"\n\nClaudia: \"You just don't want us to be happy! He's just as real as anyone!\"\n\nDaddy: \"Listen to your dad, Claudia. We only date organics and that's that!\"\n\nClaudia: \"UGH! You're being so 21st century! Why can't you accept it?! It's not like we can't have kids! I can get spliced!\"\n\nDad and Daddy: \"OH HELL NO.\" \n\n",
"Why should we?\n",
"Different how? ",
"It’s a common social theory taught in colleges these days and the foundation of a lot of toxic politics in the Western world today. ",
"It was the timing. Black people came up with a slogan and a message, and then white people tried to change the semantics and the focus of the message. Even though the core idea was part of the ALM message, the change in focus made many advocates feel like white people were trying to take over the message and remove the focus on racism. It made many feel like they were being patronized.",
"I think it's referring to a mentality that can be dangerous and easy to fall into, where you can't admit to having a \"shadow\" self. We are all animals of sort, and can easily fall into animal like behavior that we'd rather not admit. I think the virtue signaling term suggests someone who maybe takes a holier than thou sort of stance. This is dangerous because if unchecked it can overtake you (even in the name of good). This is how normal people commit atrocities. \n",
"Deflect all you’d like. If you consider a 5 second cursory search is stalking, what do you consider any sort of research? Or do you only get fed the talking points.",
"> If I don't judge people by race, I'm ignoring my responsiblity and am racist.\n\nGood strawman attempt I guess? Nobody argues that you're racist for not judging people by race. The idea is to not ignore someone's racial background and pretend it doesn't exist in a society where your racial background is a very influential part of a person, because that makes up a large part of their life, the building blocks of their social position, and their personal history. Judging or not isn't even relevant to the topic. \n\nIt doesn't take much to understand that no matter what your political beliefs are. ",
"Many prominent biologists disagree with you. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genetic_Diversity:_Lewontin%27s_Fallacy",
"I'm going to just let your comment debate you for me.",
"What? Do people genuinely have a hard time differentiating individual prejudice from institutional prejudice or are statements like yours just deliberately bad-faith arguments?",
"How often do we say this & then get shamed out of it...",
"> Neutrality isn't conceptually possible, because if you don't choose a side, you're tolerating racism.\n\nThere's a difference between not taking part in it and tolerating it. Especially in the wide array of situations in which it manifests itself. \n\nIf someone made an racial attack on a friend of mine on the street, I'd take issue with it. Hell, I've taken issue with it at times on Reddit. If someone wants to chitchat about BLM or the KKK, I honestly don't give a shit. I'm neither someone targeted for racism all that often, nor do I target people myself. And I know I'm not alone there. \n\nThe world doesn't exist for you and your standards. Feel free to have that opinion, but unfortunately it's not all or nothing just because you want it to be. Apologies for any inconvenience. (seriously, those little quips at the end of your posts, combined with the context, just make you look arrogant - do yourself a favour)\n\n",
"It was before \"the Donald Trump Supporters\" murdered that girl in Charlotte. \n\nIt was before \"those Donald Trump supporters\" murdered those people in that mosque and Sikh Temple.\n\nIt was before \"Gun Owners\" murdered those people at that music festival and that church in Texas.\n\n\nIt was after \"All Cops\" killed all those unarmed people. \n\n\nSee how your \"they\" works there?\n\n\nThat's alright. I can see your white trash racist friends are here to upvote you.\n\n",
"Race is mostly based on skin tone and place of origin. Besides a few things that I'm not entirely sure of (I think something about blood type?), there's no real biological differences between people of different races other than superficial things like their skin tone and their hair type. It's like saying that redheads are a different race than blond people -- well, no, not really, they just have a different hair color. It's the same between the actual \"races\" we have today.\n\nAlso, races are a rather modern concept. I'm not entirely sure of when the concept originated, but it must be a societal thing if the concept of race didn't exist in ancient societies. Until the 1800s (to be safe), \"race\" was more about ethnic origin than skin color. For example, during the Industrial Revolution, Irish and Germans experienced racist prejudices and practices similar to those of what we would call racial minorities today.",
"“Privileged ally” \n\nYeah I don’t think I’ll ever under any fucking circumstances support someone who refers to me as a “privileged ally”. You can take shit like that and stick it back up your ass.",
"Sadly this doesn’t seem to be the goal for a lot of the new wave of activists. They’ve abandoned the idea of a color-blind society and the “melting pot” in favor of aggressively defending their own races and cultures because homogeneity will inherently be white-dominated due to demographics. They would literally rather segregate themselves than assimilate into a unified culture.",
"You're right.\n\nI'm not advocating that.\n\nRecognition that race is invented is important in tandem with this. That's all I was saying.",
"I mean, the guy you were responding to was talking about how there are people that want to \"redefine racism so that minorities cannot possibly be racist\" and you came in explaining that \n\n>When people say minorities can't be racist, it's a fact\n\nand that people that thought otherwise were \"rank-and-file liberals\" that don't really know what they're talking about. They were discussing the usage of the term racism and *you literally came in and asserted your definition as if it were the only one.* If you accept both definitions to be true, then you cannot logically state that \"minorities cannot be racist\" because minorities are people and people have the capacity to believe that any one race is superior to any other. Minorities don't need to fulfill both conditions of the term to be considered racists, just as the majority doesn't either.",
"there is a difference between personal love for one's culture and and a 3rd party treating you like they would anyone else regardless of skin color\n\n\nhow the fuck you got to that conclusion of comparing is beyond me",
"You have been surprisingly pleasant and i’m sorry for being so rude in my original comment, i wrongly took my annoyance out on you from all the other comments i read on this thread, so sorry, i was projecting ",
"You could try recognizing that efforts to counteract racism are not an attack on white people. Even when someone does explicitly attack white people, the great thing about privilege is that their attacks are no threat to you whatsoever. It's more likely to cause trouble for them! Give up the siege mentality.",
"I got chills just reading it.\n\nAaannd now it’s time to watch them again.",
"I know what it is, I don't see why you're bringing it up, or what you think it actually promotes.",
"If you're refusing to stand by what you say and either admit that you're wrong or at least that what you said has real meaning, then I guess there's not much point continuing to argue with you.",
"Fuck the cows.",
"She looks like Dave Chappelle to me",
"So the study that compared high risk encounters found no disparity between groups, while the one that didn't take that in to account shows a large disparity. Worth noting.",
"The downvote train ITT is intense. Hopefully you're seeing through the negative scores.\n\nAnthropology today tells us that race does not exist. But don't take it from me: take it from real scientists with real educations in this subject. And certainly don't take it from Reddit's armchair geneticists.\n\n[Take it from these guys.](http://www.americananthro.org/ConnectWithAAA/Content.aspx?ItemNumber=2583)",
"im not sure what point your trying to make but im sure it was attempted poorly",
"Prominent biologists disagree with you. The idea that race has no taxonomic significance is popular due to the works of men like Gould and Lewontin, who are not exactly unafflicted with ideological bias.\n https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genetic_Diversity:_Lewontin%27s_Fallacy",
"Does this also apply to white people feeling pride in their culture and not wanting it to be discounted in place of more colorful cultures? ",
"Nah; Lots of things are real in one way or another.\n\nYou're right though; We treat race like it's a real thing, and so for all practical purposes it is, at least so long as we do this.",
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genetic_Diversity:_Lewontin%27s_Fallacy",
"These people have always existed. This is why we need to say things like this.",
"Ok, that I actually get. Misunderstanding is the root of all discourse. \n",
"I'm supposed to hate myself? Seems healthy. I didn't know, thanks.",
"This Ivory leg is what propels me.",
"Democrats need their race war for votes ",
"I can fully understand that principle, it's simple. I do not however believe its premise that being white makes said person a part of the problem of racism. \n\nWhy has it become necessary for white people to explicitly denounce themselves in order to not be default-classified racist? \n\n",
"The way it is used is the opposite of the color blind society advocated in OP. It places race as the foundation of social interaction instead of minimizing it where it belongs in an equal society. ",
"Why isn't BLM setting her house on fire and ruining her life?\n\nSeems exactly the same as saying all lives matter, and they freak the fuck out about that.",
"I'd call it nitpicking what you're doing. But OK, the second part of my statement isn't literally true. Nothing isn't challenged. For the small minority of groups that have no major influence in society that doesn't agree with the general statement - it sure is brave.",
"The reason this is different from “All Lives Matter” is because the purpose of that is to question “Black Lives Matter”.\n\n“All Lives Matter” has a valuable message, but it fails to concentrate on the fact that “Black Lives Matter” focuses on inequality that is exclusive to black people.\n\nYeah, all lives *do* matter, it’s just that *black lives* are the ones in question.",
"So we can't acknowledge an actual fact that negatively affects minorities because it upsets white people? Now that's white privilege people.",
"We are not one race we are one species, if we were one race there would be far less reason to get offended by cultural appropriation. \nIsn't that the black panthers salute?",
"you seem to be confusing \"grouping genes in a general way to make analysis of human variation easier\" with \"there are five distinct demarcated groups of humans with little blending between\", which is what \"race\" means to 99% of people.\n\nhttp://www.americananthro.org/ConnectWithAAA/Content.aspx?ItemNumber=2583",
"Hold up I'll look for some examples...\n\nE: Here's an [example](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/5wumvj/only_66_percent_of_the_cost_of_trumps_campaign/ded98lt/?context=3). Is there a way I can sort my profile by subreddit? Definitely would make finding examples a bit easier haha.",
"I'm not sure what you're arguing for. ",
"Apology accepted! Though no worries I hadn’t taken any offense really to begin with. it’s nice to see that two people can have a conversation and still be humane by the end of it. :)",
"Amen, Sister... Amen. (Anymore, that sounds sexist. And not my intent. Only wanted to agree in the affirmative)",
"race and species do not fall under the same classification system.",
"> I'll agree with you that that line was pretty bad, but it's how a lot of people feel when you imply that anyone who isn't 'taking responsibility for their racial privilege' is racist.\n\nI know some people view racism that way. That's why I phrased my response as \"this is how some other people view racism\" rather than \"you're wrong\" or \"that's bad\". \n\n>I am no more in control of the conditions of my birth and upbringing than the colour of the skin I was born with, so why should I feel bad about it? I can certainly be against the system that led to those conditions, and do what I can to try and remove it (even if that is very little), because I agree that their is systemic racism. \n\nNothing I wrote says people should feel bad about their race. It's entirely possible to not feel bad about who you are and still hold the perspective of racism I described above. I know some activists will say otherwise, but I'm not speaking for them. And the many people I work with that focus on issues in race and racism don't feel that way either\n\n>I disagree. I do acknowledge that these systems exist, but I view the way to resolve them is not with more discrimination in the opposite direction...\n\nI said nothing about discrimination in the opposite direction so I'm not really sure what to make of this part of your comment. If your disagreement is with folks who say you should feel bad for being a particular race then I made my case above.\n\n>... but with education about these systems and why they are inherently systemically racist, and why that is bad. These systems didn't just appear out of nowhere, they were created by people. And people's minds can be changed if they are shown what harm their actions lead to. \n\nI'm on board with this!\n\n>If everyone was 'colourblind', in a sense, would these systems still exist? I don't think they would, and that's where my view comes from. If everyone viewed it like this, these systems would go away over time, which is why I think the method should be to try and educate people to see through race. Just my thoughts. \n\nYeah, this is the tough one. Is it okay to ask everyone to give up their identity in order to not be racist? And would it even work? Perspectives on race that are wrapped up in economics/classism would disagree. For example, if you believe in the 'systemic racism' approach, what is it about these large systems that drives racism? Many people think that it's rooted in class warfare. So making society color-blind ends up being an issue of changing the entire economic philosophy of a society. I don't think there is an easy answer, but I think you are right that if you can convince society at large to take the 'systemic' perspective and try to address it, then greater gains would be made. Cheers\n",
"Almost every hospital that has asked for my race only gives the option of pick one, I'm mixed. I've had some hospitals never ask me my race but find that on official forms they have whatever race they guessed I was on written down as if it were official. Only once has a medical professional brought up race like you describe you do and it was a relief I want to thank you as a chronically ill racially ambiguous person who's probably fucking up a bunch of racial outcome studies.",
"eh, yes there are lots of people who think other ethnicities dont matter. Believe it or not, but there are disgusting people like that out there",
"Or living in South Africa or Zimbabwe in 2018",
"Agreed. Now stop accepting racism against white people, Reddit. ",
"Ohhhh ad hom right off the bat?! This should be fun.\n\nI don’t care about your feelings or your opinions. Systematic oppression doesn’t exist just because you believe it does. Give me facts, and structure a sound argument that supports your view. And remember that correlation does not equal to causation. The disproportionate lack of White people in the NBA doesn’t automatically mean that there is some top-down oppression by the NBA. \n\nMake a sensible argument in your favor and I’ll listen. But if you ad hom again I’ll dismiss everything you say. ",
">In the United States both scholars and the general public have been conditioned to viewing human races as natural and separate divisions within the human species based on visible physical differences. \n\nThat's the wrong way to use the word \"race,\" so if that's what these people are arguing against, they're not arguing against the point I made. \n\n>Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic \"racial\" groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes. This means that there is greater variation within \"racial\" groups than between them. \n\n[Lewtonin's Fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genetic_Diversity:_Lewontin%27s_Fallacy)",
"I've built a flying machine!",
"first off thanks for a real response.\n\nSo what I think you are saying is that back in the day races didnt intermingle as much as they do, and I agree. but I'm pretty sure (I dont have any links off hand) that we have found bodies in the last 50 years and have identified them bases and DNA or skeletons. \n\nand of course their are mixed race people and they have traits for both their parents. I just think saying that race is a social construct is like trying to change its definition of something.",
"There's /r/The_Donald made just for you. Or /r/Altright.\nOr just stick to Fox news.",
"This needs waaaay more upvotes! ",
"Damn right!",
"Do you think white people don't experience discrimination? Especially poor white people? When everyone is the same color people find other reasons to discriminate against others. You are not special, all humans are dicks to other humans.",
"You put those words in his mouth. Exactly where in his comment was this suggested?\n\nI'll wait.",
"Denouncing has nothing to do with it.\n\nDenouncing yourself does nothing to make you not contribute to global warming.\n\nIn the same way denouncing yourself does nothing to make historically more powerful majority that you belong to smaller.\n\nIt is just a fact of life that the majority tends to hold power. Being part of that majority right now makes the historically winning team bigger and harder to displace. No amount of saying you are or are not racist or whatever it is you think you have to say will change that.",
"Are you defending ethnic cleansing? ",
"....human is a species, not a race...\n\n(I get the sentiment, just had to point it out) ",
"> race, like gender, can mean anything nowadays.\n\nno. race and gender both have scientific definitions. you might mean 'anything' when you use those terms, but those terms have very clear and understood defnitions.",
"Please, try to act more civil. ",
"We'll figure it out when the Xenos show up",
"Even at a handful, it's more than the average person who tries to talk about racial discrimination on the internet knows or will use. We need to get more people on the same page with this stuff if we're going to have productive conversations.",
"She looks fabulous!",
"I agree, those people do exist. \n\nWas the point of BLM to point out that racist people still exist? Cuz.... yeah. We knew that already. ",
"I agree that poor people experience systemic suppression, but racial minorities who are poor also experience systemic racism that white people don’t",
"> Are you sure about that? Or **this arent REAL BLM**?\n\nI see you've chosen the ladder option.",
"I don't think poor white people are inclined to experience *racial* discrimination. Privileges are multifaceted and being privileged in one area doesn't mean you are in another.\n\nPoor white people are still more likely to hear back about a job interview than a middle class black person ",
"Hence the question mark, perhaps you would like to provide some suggestions for a solution?",
"Holy shit, you're exactly why everyone thinks us conservatives are so dumb.",
"I'm upvoting only for the obvious passion.",
"And how many Americans weren’t already aware of that message? Not in agreement, but aware? \n \nAnd since she couldn’t have known her picture would be the top post on reddit, how many New Yorkers needed to be exposed to this revelation? \n \nProtesting has become a giant circle jerk",
"Why not stop talking about race all the time? Maybe if we just disregarded race for the most part, and conformed to a set of values rather than identitarianism we wouldn’t be having so many ethnic conflicts. All I’m saying is stop considering another guy as a “black” guy, and just a guy. I think that would be a step in the right direction.",
"Chappelle, yes! ",
">The idea is to not ignore someone's racial background because that makes up a large part of their life, the building blocks of their social position, and their personal history.\n\nThe problem with this I think is you're applying an average to an individual. Racial privilege exists, I'm not disagreeing with that, but you can't decipher a person's background from their skin colour, just because statistically they're more likely to have less opportunities. I'm gay, and if someone did that to me I'd feel like they were being condescending if anything: \"Oh your life must be so hard!\", just because I'm statistically more likely to have killed myself *doesn't mean that applies to me personally*.\n\nCombining systemic and personal racism into one big ball seems to be the problem here. I'm not dismissing systemic racism by saying it doesn't exist, I'm saying that if everyone treated each other on an individual basis most of these systems would disappear.",
"Did you not?",
"Race war still has nothing on the numbers or methods used to kill in the name of religion, just sayin.",
"Surely you aren't serious lol",
"That article doesn't mention the word race once for good reason. ",
"Also, sorry if I'm missing the relevance to my original comment. Are you saying that wealth doesn't guarantee privilege for the next generation? To that, I'd say if you compare a poor child and a rich child, both taught about handling finances OR a poor child and rich child, both with bad financial habits, in both cases, the rich ones have an advantage",
"Translation:\n\"Whites were all one race so don't look out for your interests. But I'm black so I get special gibs.\"",
"Context bruh. He was talking about porn.",
"What are you on about. It's inevitable that ethnicities will eventually merge. Seemingly you are against such a thing. ",
"I am serious, and don’t call me Shirley. ",
"Always found it weird that to the full on SJW calling that person a \"black woman\" is bad, yet reducing them to the \"P.O.C\" acronym is perfectly acceptable??",
">Can we at least agree that however we get there, \"ONE RACE: HUMAN\" is the goal?\n\nYeah, people do agree but you don't see it much because it's basically useless sentiment right now. You can't just focus on the end goal and hope to get there some day. If you're on the drivers seat you are more concerned about the corners and red lights than the destination because the destination is meaningless if you never get there.",
"One love ",
"what does actually stop racism?",
">It’s easier to identify someone isn’t white\n\nWhat sort of white?\n\nItalian, Scottish, English, Australian, American...",
"> This picture is not interesting or thought provoking\n\nCould say the same thing about anything on this sub. It all comes down to your personal opinion. It's not about OP being \"brave\" or anything. It's just odd how so many people have such intense negative feelings to posts like this. Especially since it's not even random, this photo is presumably from one of the women's marches going on right now. Oh no, somebody wants you to know they aren't racist and we're all equal in light of these events, and previous ones like Charlottesville. What a fucking asshole.",
"> Magazines then?\n\nMailorder catalogues. Somehow the underwear section always went \"missing\" in a household with three teenagers.",
"High risk encounter *in houston*",
"Thats a loaded sign",
"...and then the conversation goes right back to arguing about who is struggling more and absolutely nothing is accomplished aside from more division.",
"One Race: Terran!",
"He was at the time, too. The Nation of Islam (which Malcolm X was a part of for a good chunk of his activist career until he split) literally hosted a neo-Nazi rally because they both supported racial segregation.",
"i agree. its a sensitive and contentious issue, ambiguity is not our friend here.",
"\"How do you do, fellow humans\"",
"not racist, just ignorant. You can't ignore skin color politically no matter how much you want to. It plays a role, and being/pretending to be \"color blind\" just means you say it doesn't matter. Outside of all that politics crap I personally think we should all strive to be \"color blind\" though.",
"70% if rich kids do not grow up to be rich adults. Now realize that fact after 2-3 generations and it just doesn’t matter. Why deny parents the right to work for the advantage of their children for such a vanishing effect?",
"I'm agreeing with you lol ",
"Most divisive slogan in the Star Trek universe.",
"You really think that someone who was fired from the military for being gay \"feels they have nothing of worth in their life so they latch on to some pointless idea\" like sexuality?\n\nOr an Iranian here on a student visa who can't complete school because of Trump's travel ban -- she's \"latching onto some spurious shared identity for strength?\"\n\nIt's the bigots who make identity politics possible. If we gave everyone an equal chance in life, identity politics wouldn't exist.",
">If you define \"race\" as a population that tends to reproduce amongst itself, then technically we wouldn't have to have different races.\n\nI don't see how implicitly endorsing this statement, saying \"we don't have to have the concept of race\" could be interpreted as \"I support the current view of race and want it to stay forever.\"",
"Doubt it, I don't see any rubbing alcohol.",
"Depends on what type of Orc.",
"Marching on the highway and stopping everyone from getting to work apparently, if you ask my local BLM chapter. ",
"But you completely ignore the minorities that are not poor. I actually grew up in a black side of town. I was beat up on the daily for being white (ironically I am Mexican, but with light skin) on the white side of town I was looked down on because I was poor. \n\nBlanket statements like yours only further the divide and make people like me (there are a lot of us) not listen because your words do not reflect my reality. I question whether you have ever really been a victim of discrimination when your words are filled with racism.",
"There are literally people in this thread saying with absolute seriousness that white men in America are oppressed or at some sort of disadvantage. It's unbelievable. Reddit's main demographic of white dudes 18-25 perceive any criticism of white people as racism and then stick their fingers in their ears and go \"nanananana\". White(male) privilege is absolutely a thing. I would know, I've lived with it for 27 years. No one reasonable hates me for being white, or even for having my advantages, and I would never apologize for either, but you can be sure people appreciate when I acknowledge the privilege exists.",
"Donald......Trump.......?",
"I'm at a loss for words at how disgusting that is.",
"This ended up being extremely long, just a heads up before you start reading. Contrary to what others have suggested, it's *not* a simple subject.\n\nI realize I'm inviting a barrage of downvotes, but I understand why you feel this way, and I'd like to try to provide some clarity where I think there may be confusion. I've thought about this a lot, and I'd like to try to see if I can explain it in a way that makes more sense. My goal is to facilitate meaningful conversation, to share my perspective but also listen, and to do my best to understand all perspectives.\n\nObviously discriminating against someone based on their race is not considered to be a good thing, there's a whole amendment for it in the US. But the confusion comes from *why* it's a bad thing. For many progressive people, what's bad about this is that minorities have a history of disadvantage, so allowing businesses to discriminate against minorities because of their race perpetuates this problem. At the same time, these people consider it important to preserve and value these unique cultural identities. The goal is not to eliminate race from consideration in general, but to eliminate the disadvantage that minorities experience. Alternatively, as suggested by the above image, a lot of people believe discrimination is bad because the whole idea of race is bad. I think most people can agree that we shouldn't be *divided* as a species, but perhaps it's possible to be united as a species and also celebrate the many unique and beautiful cultures of every race.\n\nProgressives tend to see \"color-blindness,\" or the refusal to acknowledge race, as being well-intended but with an unfortunate side effect. On the one hand it reduces the likelihood of saying something racist, since you wouldn't give yourself the opportunity to say anything about race. On the other hand, it tends to suppress the heritage and identity that comes from a person's race, their culture and history, the trials and atrocities their ancestors have endured and overcome, and in some cases the disturbingly recent and even current discrimination that they experience. All of these things are often an important part of a person's identity, something that I and others like me think should be embraced. Instead, under color-blindness, the dominant culture is applied to all. In essence, you might say that everyone is treated as if they are white, and a non-white person's race is treated as unimportant.\n\nYou can see this in the criticism of Black History Month, for example. Those who believe race is unimportant tend to see this as an unnecessary and provocative demonstration, but those who value race see it as a way to celebrate a culture that is beautiful but is often suppressed, intentionally or not.\n\nAnother source of confusion is the word \"racism\" itself. To be honest, I'm a bit on the fence about this, but I believe I understand why this introduces so much confusion and conflict. To many, racism is simply any form of discrimination against any race. Those who see race as a negative thing also tend to believe that even identifying a person's race is racist, and I believe this is why so many try to be color-blind. I remember a time when I felt like it was offensive to call a person black, and even African American felt risky because I had this unspoken belief that it was racist to see race. However, there are many who do not feel this way. They believe that things like perpetuating negative stereotypes of a race, discriminating against someone because of their race, and suppressing or devaluing a person's racial identity is racist. There's also the debate on whether or not racism only applies to the oppressed cultures, and this is where I tend to disagree with both sides, and it's a whole other long and difficult conversation, so I won't get into it.\n\nBasically, we have one group of people who believe that race is an unnecessary, divisive concept that should be removed from consideration, and another group that sees race as the collection of culture, history, and heritage, which should be celebrated and whose people should not be unfairly treated, and each believes the other is racist. Because of this, you're probably going to be called racist by someone no matter what, you just have to figure out which definition of racism they are using. Either \"you are acknowledging and perpetuating the divisive concept of race by bringing it up\" or \"you are perpetuating negative stereotypes, discriminating against a minority because of their race, or suppressing a person's racial identity.\"\n\nIn fairness, I can understand why some would believe race is divisive when you have a word which is okay for black people to say but not white people to say. This gets into the concept of cultural appropriation, which is also another long, difficult conversation. But to me, I think we should simply be considerate. As a white person, I will never understand what it is like to be black. This particular word has a particular relevance in black history and culture, and my culture was involved in a very negative way in the history of that word, so I think it would be wise for me to be extra careful. Maybe I might have a black friend who tells me that I can use it around him, and there are situations like that, but even then I'm personally not going to use it. It's just not a good idea, and I would rather be respectful and not try to get into things that aren't my business. I think when it comes to cultural appropriation, we just need to be respectful, and we need to ask and listen to the people who are part of that culture.\n\nWhen I think of a harmonious, united relationship among all humans, I picture all races being celebrated, everyone is considerate towards other cultures, everyone is careful about their words and actions, and everyone is working to help the disadvantaged. If there is a dominant or primary culture, the people of that culture are considerate and try not to overshadow or appropriate other cultures. To me, this is a world free of racism. Of course, a world with no races (or only one race) would also be free of racism, and perhaps over a period of thousands of years our many races may naturally all blend together, but I don't think we should be in a hurry to make that happen, and I doubt it will happen anyway.\n\nMy goal with this was just to explain what I believe to be the primary issues that lead to confusion on what is or isn't racist. It may have not been helpful, but I hope you know that I'm not trying to pick fights, just to encourage discussion and an understanding of multiple perspectives.",
"> All I’m saying is stop considering another guy as a “black” guy, and just a guy\n\nSo then when someone posts an image of Obama hanging with the caption \"rope,\" I'm supposed to believe that's because of something Obama did? When Trump says that Obama isn't an American citizen, but is instead a Kenyan -- that's because of something other than race? \n\nBill Clinton or Melania Trump could be Kenyans too?",
"I don't think you know what intersectionality is. It doesn't have anything to do with race. ",
"> It's inevitable that ethnicities will eventually merge\n\nthat is literally your opinion that you're trying to paint as reality. Many countries will continue to be ethnically united such as Japan. ",
"Step one to pissing off everyone around you is to talk the way you talk. I’ll be actively opposing your shit for the rest of my life. It’s not my fault you are an emasculated moron.",
"HARPOONS THRUST IN THE SKY",
"How about the fact that black men are incarcerated for disproportionately harsh sentences for minor drug crimes compared to their white counterparts.",
"Not really, the one message that counts is One Species : Human. Saying we're all one race is simply wrong and can lead to mass missunderstanding of human nature. Sure, the idea that all races are equal is undeniably true, but this ain't the right package to put it in, simply because it's scientifically wrong. ",
"Nice try Admiral Akbar. ",
"Amazing racing at monaco but ironically it can sometimes make for a boring race.",
"I mean, it's used with good intent (\"Race doesn't affect how I judge anyone\"), but it usually comes off as being dismissive (\"I'm not racist so racism isn't my problem anymore\").",
"We're building a Dyson sphere, and Betelgeuse is gonna pay for it!",
"I'm sure you know all my talking points already Inspector Nerdvirgin.",
"There are plenty of people who don't agree. Check out the current US president.",
"na, pretty sure it was about the disproportionate police brutality against black ppl in america",
"\"Race\" exists, but the lines along which they are divided/ created, relying mostly on skin color, are the social construct. There are just as many genetic differences between a black person and a white person, as there are between a tall and short person. Why aren't races grouped by height instead of skin color? Statements like \"white people are more likely to be tall\" could easily be restated as \"tall people are more likely to be white\" if the focus is shifted",
"No problem! I think that's the missing part of the privilege discussion. It's not helpful to blame anyone for the privilege problem. No one should feel bad about themselves. They can feel bad, but only that their fellow citizens have such a rough time of it. It's about looking outward and trying to correct a problem that many collections of faceless people over a long period of time created.\n\nAs an aside, It's almost the perfect situation to illustrate the Asian vs American way of approaching problems. \n\nIn Asia (mostly Japan, but Korea as well--I've not witnessed this as much in China, so YMMV), when a problem occurs, the question that is almost never asked is \"who did this?\" They focus on fixing the problem, and then once it's fixed, then they still don't ask who, they ask what actions caused the problem, and how to avoid them in the future. \n\nIn the US, blame plays a huge role in dealing with problems. We ask who did it, then ask what they did, all while trying to fix the problem and punish the person who caused it. \n\nIt's like in the US personal responsibility is enforced through societal means, as an extrinsic pressure; if you mess up, you'll be blamed and punished. But in Asia, personal responsibility is truly a personal thing; if you mess up, you commit seppuku (well, maybe not for everything). \n\nAnyway, all this is to say that we in the US are almost hard wired to try and find out who is blame for the problem of white privilege (with the idea that fixing the problem should be the responsibility of the people who created it). That causes white people to be defensive, because they on an individual level didn't cause the problem. \n\nBut in reality it's a societal problem that will take a society-level fix, and due to sheer numbers, that will require white people to acknowledge that the problem exists in the first place. \n\nSorry for the wall of text. ",
"Get on board or get run over. 2020 re-election!!!!!",
"No hospital forms about race I've ever seen mentioned Mediterranean descent. And every single one I've filled out only gives the option to mark a single race. A friend of mine who's Carribean with mainly African ancestry had doctors who overlooked a condition her mother had that's common in east asians because they assumed her mother was only black when in fact she was a quarter Chinese. I'm mixed black and white and no medical forms I've seen gave me the option of listing my full racial background and only 1 doctor has ever asked me my racial background rather than relying on the forms. I've looked at medical records from clinics I never was asked my race by that list me under a certain race because someone made the decision to look at me a decide my background rather than actually ask which is very problematic, just like forms which ignore the fact mixed race people are capable of existing. \n\nA bit of a rant but since you're going to be a doctor someday, I urge you to in person speak to patients about their racial and ethnic backgrounds when dealing with issues where race does make a difference rather than relying on forms that may be inadequate or inaccurate.",
"Most Hispanics don’t want to be lumped in with Indians, blacks, whites or anyone else. ",
">Which definitions? The way the word is used by laymen?\n\nYes, because we don't have any scientific definition.\n\n>Your statement is also true of men and women, but I don't think you would say that sex is a social construct, or would you?\n\nThere are functional differences that make that categorization significant. The fact that two people of the same sex cannot procreate is not up for interpretation.\n\n>There is always some level of arbitrariness involved in putting things into categories, but it doesn't mean there aren't strong reasons for doing so. You probably believe there are good practical reasons for placing blue and green into different categories, even though they exist on a spectrum.\n\nDoesn't mean it's not a social construct.\n\n>This is a good example of the wrong way to use the word \"race.\"\n\nThat's up to your interpretation, because it's a social construct.\n\n>I don't think it follows that because one characteristic can't be used to define a race, that no collection of characteristic can either. But if you think that conclusion follows, let me know how.\n\nYou keep arguing about the \"right\" way to define race, without realizing that even having this argument is supporting the point that it's a social construct.\n\n>I don't know whether a tree is the best way to represent the races, so I won't try to defend the tree structure. However, a tree shape isn't the only way to represent differing genetic clusters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_clustering\n\nAgain, you're giving possible constructs.\n\n>This is an example of Lewtonin's Fallacy\n\nJust because someone calls it a fallacy doesn't mean it's actually one. It's certainly not a logical fallacy. There are plenty critiques of that argument as well. According to Edward's criticism, we should therefore have different races for people who have blue eyes and brown eyes, because there are localized clusters based on where you are in the world. It's still arbitrary that you select based on visible features. ",
"“Intersectionality is a theory which considers that the various aspects of humanity, such as class, race, sexual orientation and gender, do not exist separately from each other, but are complexly interwoven, and that their relationships are essential to an understanding of the human condition.”\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality",
"Oh, so you're just saying that going back to the world as he knew it before was always an option, so that made his experience inauthentic? Like the way people live in developing countries for a while of their own volition and then come back thinking they know everything about the struggles that occur there?\n\nI definitely see where your coming from, but if someone truly feels that they've learned something and it changes the way they see the world and the way they act, was it really ingenuine? Isn't it still worth something?",
"Yeah, sure, the US President has no major influence in society. We can totally ignore him.",
"FOR THE HORDE!!!",
"This deserves gold",
"One race: the amazing",
"So being a member of the most economically and socially mobile \"avatar\" in the history of this nation is a disadvantage? Let me be clear, I'm not saying being white means automatic success, but it sure as shit isn't a disadvantage. ",
"They *don't* want the exact same thing. Even at its most generous interpretation, the ALM movement cannot address the problem that the BLM movement is about - that black people are disproportionally affected by things like police brutality. \nIt wouldn't be a big issue for one group to protest against systemic racism and another to protest against police brutality in general, but \"all lives matter\" was specifically created as a response to the BLM movement, as evident in the name. Which makes its implication not just that police brutality is bad, but also that black people *aren't* disproportionally affected to the point where it becomes necessary to address their situation specifically. \n \nIt's like someone who hasn't eaten in weeks is stranded on a desert island with a bunch of others who have only not eaten for a couple of days, and they come across some food. The first person goes \"I think I should get a bit more since I haven't eaten in so long\" and the others go \"Yeah, well, we're all hungry, so let's just split this evenly\".",
"Honestly it only matters to those looking to be offended.\n\n",
"It is statistically proven that you are less likely to be fucked with by police, are more likely to enjoy a more well rounded secondary education, and a bunch of other shit. You didn't personally earn any of it. By definition, this is priviledge. ",
"I think you mean the Yuuzhan Vong",
"In what way did he disagree?",
"You can follow people on Reddit?... Is this why celebrity / novelty accounts are always so highly upvoted? I get 4chan now.",
"That article contains a bit by CK Louis, he is a sexual predator so by default nothing he has ever said is correct or relevant, please refrain from promoting rape culture. ",
"> You could try recognizing that efforts to counteract racism are not an attack on white people.\n\nI absolutely recognise that, and wholeheartedly support any genuine efforts to counteract racism. But all too often these efforts *are* simply straight up attacks on whiteness, because hey, it's easier, it's for the noble cause of historical redress, and anyway white people can take it right? \n\nBut how can it *not* be interpreted as an attack on white people to say 'Everyone born white is by default contributing to a problem'?\n\nIt doesn't make me angry personally. I'm not particularly proud of being white or anything, I don't give two shits. What makes me angry about the approved public condemnation of whiteness as an implicit evil is that it has -entirely predictably- made Nazi marches in modern day America a totally normal thing. ",
"Or the Reapers.",
"> whiteys\n\nYou mean \"People of white\"",
"It would be sort of like me going camping without permission in a national park and then claiming I've acquired kinship with Native Americans when a ranger tosses me out.\n\nThere's nothing wrong with trying to put yourself in the position to understand other groups of people, but if you're actually trying to claim some experiential parity via a situation you created specifically to be able to say that, I'm skeptical.",
"> The only time race should matter for anything is healthcare diagnosis\n\nRace is a social construct, not a biological one. ",
" oh fuk. \n\n...fuk...",
"Yeah wait what?",
"> The problem is that words like \"race\" imply that humanity has four or five distinct groups with specific sets of genes, which is false\n\nIt is possible to classify humans with 4-5 groups or with 300 groups. The number of groups doesn't matter too much. It's subjective how many groups you chose, but you can definitely classify them into a small number of groups if you wanted to.\n\n> Humanity has remarkably little variation\n\nRelative to what? What does that even mean?\n\nIt's like saying \"a glass has a small amount of water.\" Well - what is small? 1ml? 100ml?\n\n> The place on Earth with the most human variation is within Africa, but most of society has decided to ignore it in favor of reductionist, ethnocentric classifications.\n\nWhat relevance is the variance within a group? We are talking about between groups.\n\nAt best you are arguing that there are many sub-groups within a \"sub-saharan African\" racial category. That doesn't mean a \"sub-saharan African\" racial category is useless. Why would it?\n\n> Really what I'm getting at is that \"race\" is a system of clear boundaries when the reality is a sliding scale.\n\nWho thinks race is a system of clear boundaries? Everyone recognizes that mixed race people exist? Everyone recognizes there has been lots of admixture throughout history. Who said anything about clear boundaries?\n\nYour whole argument is based on you adding implications to the word \"race,\" when those implications don't exist when it is used in the real world.",
"So is not caring about race as bad as pretending it doesn't exist in your eyes? ",
">Lol, grew up poor, worked my ass off just to become lower middle class.\n\nNo one is saying you didn't. We're saying that you never had to worry about being thrown off the job for your sexual orientation or denied a mortgage because of your race. \n\nThose are privileges that not everyone enjoys. ",
"Queer has been reclaimed to some degree. ",
"There's a lot of objective evidence about the strife of black people in the US. It's not really debatable. \n\nIt also doesn't mean that other people don't suffer. ",
"http://i.imgur.com/VtD8W4H.jpg",
"Oh, I don't know, how about siding with white supremacists?",
"You do realize that people bled and died to get people to *stop* making race an issue, right? I don’t buy at all that your ancestors’ experiences or the color of your skin make you different from anyone else. That kind of thinking is selfish and divisive, and it’s been at the root of all sorts of ugly history.",
"It's not though. Race has defined features, like skin color, that were categorized arbitrarily. The concept of ethnicity takes into account region, culture, language, etc... The ethnic variation I'm talking about is the part that is commonly miscategorized in a \"racial\" lense. This is problematic because things like race can group populations of similar skin color as racially identical, when it reality they probably share more of that .01% DNA with a population that is regionally closer but with a different skin tone.",
"Which white supremacists? What did he say?",
"Who chose them as the spokespeople? Were they voted in, did the media name them official envoys or are they just the loudest?",
"Okay I hate these sign posts but this one is probably the best by far.",
"Yeah, with the new Reddit profiles, there is a 'follow' button. Basically treats that user at its own subreddit and subscribes you to their posts.",
"see i thought you were but i thought this being reddit you were about to do a GOTCHA thing",
"Privilege in that sense has nothing to do with your bank account or how much money your family had growing up. Its about the fact that white people in america are just generally treated differently than people of a different ethnicity. Its undeniable. Just using an example, but there was a picture not too long ago of a white guy on a beach with a loaded gun in hand, attempting to point it at someone else in front of him (other person may or may not have been a minority cant exactly remember), and a cop is standing about five feet away across from this guy in a very passive manner with his hand kind of half up like \"hey hey now buddy, put the gun down lets talk this through\", which is essentially how it went down by all eyewitness accounts. Thats privilege right there, when considering if it were a black man with a loaded weapon, he'd have been shot, shit even if he doesnt have a loaded weapon he's shot.\n\nOf course there will always be exceptions to the rule, and I'm sure you could pick some story about an unarmed white guy getting shot by police, or find an instance where a black man with an open carry license was treated fairly by law enforcement, but the fact remains that it is far more common for a minority to be treated poorly by authority than it is for a white person, and thats privilege.\n\nEdit: whoops sorry didnt realize this comment thread was meant to be a white person circle jerk over how we have problems too, and the world is treating us so unfairly right now. Downvote away.",
"Yeah i saw that. Still though, this data is painting an incomplete picture of the problem.",
" https://i.imgur.com/WWb4Zk6.jpg ",
"> A French man, a German man, an American man, a Russian man could all be ‘white’ guys but they’re all from different countries/cultural backgrounds so that information isn’t exactly useful statistically/scientifically to an extent, it’s only as useful as we make it.\n\nThat's like saying that the term \"mammal\" is useless because you can have cows, dogs, humans, etc.\n\nFrench, German and Russian can be grouped together, as can Zimbabwean and Nigerians. (FYI - nobody considers Aboriginals or Polynesians to be sub-saharan african).\n\nYou can also split these groups into even more ethnicity (North German - South German, etc.).",
"The article you linked is an argument as to why rich parents should teach their children to be more financially responsible. No one's denying them the ability to do that. Also, if you take the wealth of one rich set of parents and distribute it among multiple children, then again to multiple grand children, of course it's going to diminish.",
"Yeah I wasn't trying to imply you were, sorry about that. I was just kind of extrapolating",
"No. Teachers unions are the only fucking people standing up for teachers. Teacher pay/benefits have plummeted in RTW states and in districts who leave the unions.\n\nThey have issues, like any other institution, but removing the union will make becoming a teacher even less desirable and hurt current teachers even more than they are now.\n\nCutting police pay leads to public outrage and is politically difficult, cutting teacher pay doesn't have the same effect and will be the first thing the grubby politicians will take money from to give subsidies to their buddies in the oil business",
"A good amount of modern progressive movements oppose the post's message, but it ends up creating more conflict (dividing people into groups almost always leads to conflicts between them).",
"> It should be obvious that this is not the case for humans.\n\nAre you saying that humans did not evolve?\n\n> There is a reason science has moved away from races.\n\nIt didn't...?\n\nThe concept of \"race\" is still very prominent in the sciences. What makes you think it isn't?",
"Why? Gender dysphoria still effects the same pecentage of people, that hasn’t really gone up. People giving themselves made up labels has grown, but that’s not a scientifically real thing. ",
"> the term \"races\" is almost meaningless, you use the term ethnicities.\n\nSemantics",
">the ladder option.\n\nYeah I needed to get a book off a high shelf.",
"This is also a question I've always wondered. Generally when I ask people, I usually get that it's more of a general societal issue than individual institutions, which always bugged me. But then I found [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQdMgtncpoE) video and I think it accurately explains what people mean when they say \"institutional racism.\" Hope this helps.\n\nEdit: spelling",
"No, the politicians that want to confiscate intergenerational wealth via a death tax impede the ability for parents to work for the advantage of their children. ",
"> I objected to the moral and said it isn’t good for anybody to feel like that and that I don’t compartmentalize people based on their skin colour and I don’t want it to happen to me either. \n\nBy way of analogy, consider being sprayed with pepper spray. Do you think innocent people should get sprayed with pepper spray? No, of course not.\n\nBut [police departments](http://fox2now.com/2017/11/23/inside-the-academy-pepper-spray-and-taser-training/) train their police officers by spraying the officers with pepper spray. Why?\n\n>\"I think it's important for them to understand if they are going to carry that weapon on their belt, to understand the effects of that weapon\" said academy instructor Eric Austermann.\n\nYou can read about the effects of pepper spray all you want -- you won't know what it feels like until you feel it. It helps cops understand what they are doing to others.\n\nIs it *good* that we do it to them? No. It'd be good to live in a world where no one ever had to pepper spray anyone. But it is *useful.* And if you want to stop racism in this world, rather than wishing for a world without racism, then experiencing racism firsthand is *useful.*",
"\"Many sides, many sides.\"\n\n\"Very fine people.\"\n\n\"Are you going to denounce the KKK? What about the Neo Nazis?\" *CRICKETS*\n\nYou can ignore the context and twist things if you really like defending Donald Trump, but it's not hard to figure it out.",
"Your rebuttal was 'literally' another opinion. \nAnd mine wasn't an opinion, I was using simple logic. It's only possible for people to either merge their enthnicity or continue it. It's not possible to reproduce an ethnicity down the line. Its not hard to understand.",
"Congratulations",
"Congratulations",
"Congratulations",
"Congratulations",
"They would ban me if I posted there\n\nand I also dont watch Fox News thank you very much ",
"I’m not saying that no one is racist. At no point did I suggest that I agreed with any of the things that you’ve listed. All I’m saying is that once we stop seeing people for their race, and rather for their personality, a lot of our social issues would be lessened.",
"It’s not a disadvantage, except when you have to apply for college, apply for a job, or apply for anything that values diversity (which is pretty much everything). ",
"What's interesting is how tied it is to lizard brain and the survival mechanism; and how that's displayed in humanity's various fetishes. ",
"I agree, other people don’t have the same abilities as people from the dominant culture ",
"Mainly talking about the label thing. ",
"No. I'm saying that the reason reason all of these white people feigning empathy while projecting their actual bigotry of low expectations always complain about why black people are more likely to be/stay poor than white people is because of the culture in these communities. I'm sure it happens in both, but it happens differently in both. I really doubt little white kids are told they're \"acting white\" when they try in school, they probably get a different kind of shame tactic.",
"Racist earthling Martians have rights too!",
"Lol why don't you bust out the Minnesota twin studies while you have the time. Of course there's a *taxonomic* significance to race. But if you actually read the paper you linked me (its only four pages) you'll see that's the only thing Edwards challenges and it doesn't refute anything else Lewontin has said. That isn't just my interpretation, that's the overwhelming consensus about this paper. You can use the same process Edwards did to group people into trivial taxonomic categories and still get little practical information because individual differences still overshadow racial ones. The biggest consequence of your race is the societal dynamic that comes with it.",
"What we need to do is blame the dominant culture for a wide reaching conspiracy that they built a society that gives supreme advantage to thier own members, every single one. They are all personally responsible and have a collective guilt for which they should be punished. ",
"You must construct additional pylons!\n\n\n^(am i doing this right?)^(/s)",
"https://youtu.be/I9_EOvoJhc8",
"If you're so educated then why are you so bad at this? You just made someone double down on opposing your ideas because you had to act like a pretentious, arrogant twat that everyone can tell is just another sheltered white kid.\n\nMaybe you should give up since you're just harming.",
"All Lives Matter is nothing but a counter argument for Black Lives Matter, you never see a All Lives Matter person come out and talk when a black person or even a non black person is killed or hurt by police brutality. All Lives Matter is more bullshit than Black Lives Matter.",
"Been saying this for years! No one wants to get behind this movement though...",
">Being this incapable of reading a simple comment",
"Sorry I'm not getting your point. \n\nWhy are white people required to acknowledge they're part of the problem of racism if nothing we do, say or think has any effect on the problem of racism? \n\nYou're making the same point I am, that no amount of self-condemnation by whites will fix racism. \n\n",
"Genetically, you are able to tell apart the different members of 'white' people, as well as your other examples. \"White\" as a racial designation is very modern, btw.",
"Dalai Lama came to UMD and that’s the line I still remember. Smart words. ",
"There were violence from many sides. You might want to justify one side's violence, but you can't deny that violence existed.\n\nAbout that context thing...\n\n> “I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me,” he said.\n \n> “You had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists,” Trump said. “The press has treated them absolutely unfairly.”\n\n> “You also had some very fine people on both sides,” he said.\n\n[Source](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/trump-defends-white-nationalist-protesters-some-very-fine-people-on-both-sides/537012/)\n\nIn no way he called neo-Nazis or white nationalists 'very fine people.' I'm not sure whether he actually have denounced those, but he certainly isn't on their side.",
"!isbot theentirebeemoviescr",
"The study from 2003? That study also concluded that resumes with addresses from good neighborhoods received 30% more responses than those from bad neighborhoods regardless of the ethnic sound of the name. Lots of people link that ONE study from 15 years ago, not too many have actually read it though.",
"Not gonna lie, you’re right that I shouldn’t be so confrontational. Thank you for pointing it out. I deleted my comment. This may come across as sarcastic or something but that isn’t my intention.\n\nAnd yeah, I’m white and young but I wouldn’t say I’m sheltered.",
"> So, there are no abnormally tall Corgis?\n> \n> \n\nThere are no corgis taller than adult golden retriever. It just doesn't happen.\n\n>That's the wrong way to use the word \"race.\"\n\nhow? People of certain races are more likely to have physical characteristics. they're also more likely to have similar social views. but they're not defined by that. \n\n>What does this have to do with anything?\n\nmy point is that humans are different to Dogs and horses. It's okay to categorize horses and dogs by completely physical traits. It's less acceptable with humans. ",
"Can you provide some examples of systemic racism?",
"Yeah she was awesome for about 99.999% of the story, then right at the end, faramir says I love you, and she literally says okay, I’m done being a warrior, I’ll be a healing woman now. Complete switch from a few pages earlier when she said she would never do that",
"Hey man, no one should rape kids or steal from charities or torture animals. But who's gonna disagree with that? Why does that even need to be said? Are there people who are on the fence about this stuff? And even if they are, fuck them. It just says a lot about gallowboobs karma whoring that he *just so happens* to be the one who made this post. ",
"All I'm saying is that acting like race isn't real is not viable since there are systematic problems with race in America. By ignoring race, you ignore the race-based problems that people deal with. For example, majority white schools receive significantly more funding than majority black or Latino schools. Acting like race isn't real does not fix this problem, it just hides it.\n\nAlso, to celebrate your race's culture is to acknowledge that race exists. This post argues that one should not acknowledge race.",
"Pretty sure most of us have.",
"Concept creep, it is academically dishonest. Racism still means what it meant 100years ago. ",
"We have more than enough information to know that racial bias is at play ",
"Because typically \"somebody else's babies\" will be raised in somebody else's culture\".",
"ethnic diversity is weakness that results in inbreeding",
"I’m sorry you had to face that. I agree that I shouldn’t be using blanket statements, I’m sorry. You’re right that I haven’t faced racial discrimination but I don’t believe my words are racist.",
"Did you seriously link an article saying reperations should be a thing? \n\nAlso why is it always about black people? Why not start giving reperations for all the atrocities throughout history? ",
"I do concede that the unions are providing some necessary safe guards against very corrupt politicians.",
"Sure I guess. There's nothing wrong with being white",
"Kinda. Race is perceived, so if you change your skin to look black then yeah pretty much",
"I did lose jobs because I wasn't black. I grew up in the black side of town and lost jobs because \"the black kid needed the job more than me because I can get a job anywhere\" (actual words said to me) Ironic. I am not \"white\" I am a light skinned Mexican, I was beat up, lost jobs, asked to leave restaurants, told I couldn't date someone's daughter. White people are not the only racist people and it's not okay to be racist because other white people are or have been in the past.",
"i didnt say race didnt exist, i said to be color blind interacting with others",
"In other words, you can't debate your point and want to end the conversation.",
"Not at all, that is *not* a guarantee. \n\nNot every black person experiences negative discrimination during their life...\n\nYou have no idea what career she has, or what she's doing in her life. She could be a gender studies major, and be experiencing nothing but uplifting \"you're amazing because you're black\" discrimination, which I don't think she'd be too bummed about.\n\nBut I don't know anything about who she really is, and neither do you. So you can't assume she's felt the effects of racism just because she's black.",
"You said you don't think children of rich parents deserve to always remain rich, so I don't see why you would be against a death tax that benefits those less fortunate. I get it if you think the taxes aren't being used efficiently, but otherwise that doesn't make sense to me",
"With all factors the same? So if we have two people with a past that includes convictions burglary amd they both get busted with a pound of weed, one receives a much longer sentence than the other from the same judge? This pattern is repeated enough to make it a constant, or are you just talking overall population without other factors?",
"Exactly!!!",
"I absolutely agree with this. Race is not a natural construct, and the very concept should be discarded. But white supremacists don't think like us. They believe that all non-white people belong to lesser species, and they even think caucasian civil rights allies are sub-human (or \"blood traitors\"). I don't know how to fix that kind of ignorance.",
"Oh, yea, that’s not real so I don’t consider that, generally speaking. ",
"Ah yes! And yes, from my personal experience it is anywhere from being told that you're just going to get your head filled with leftist brainwashing bullshit, or that you think that you're too good to be like the rest of your family working at the Wal-Mart because the Ma & Pa Five and Dime closed up.\n\nFunny how after you start making that six figure income they always come to you for a \"loan\" to get them through the \"hard\" times.",
"https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/11/17/16668770/us-sentencing-commission-race-booker\n\nThis study took into account criminal history.",
"I hope your life gets better friend, maybe the need for trolling will go with that.",
"Sorry, that’s ridiculous. Division breeds division. \n\nYou can’t cure a racist by being racist to them, that only creates more racists. ",
"Of course there are virtually none who aren't aware! Racism has historically been a huge controversy in America. But it's making people aware of the fact that popular support from a certain side is still strong. The pressure from this support always has a potential for influencing lawmakers and forcing a small minority of people to reconsider their position. Anybody can see the power of popularizing moral issues by simply looking at how many people speak out for these kinds of issues today versus a few decades ago.\n\nAnd obviously she wouldn't have known that her picture would make it to the top of reddit. But with any large protest, pictures from the protest ALWAYS end up peppering major social media sites. So it's a collective utilization of the power of social media, not an individual \"I'm only going because I know for a fact that my specific sign is going to make it to the top of Reddit.\" You know that just as well as I do, so why do I have to spell it out for you?\n",
"> It's a social construct that happens to pick random bullshit traits \n\nOk, so if we can \"fix our mistakes\" using stuff like 23AndMe, then race is no longer a social construct?\n\nYou aren't arguing that race isn't a social construct. You're saying it's biological. You just think we've gotten it wrong in how it is defined. So - fix that and we're good!",
"I don’t think we have the right to confiscate the work of parents that want to provide for their children. I’ve already demonstrated that the wealth vanished after a couple of generations anyways, so there is no point to a death tax other than to eat the rich. ",
"On an individual level person to person, sure. That's how most people interact with each other when they are at least friends, anyway. But that doesn't translate well into the act of creating policies and legislation. You can't account for every individual. But what you can do is at least account for large populations of people with shared demographics because experts in these professions tell us we are able to make accurate and useful statistical analysis from those categories. For example providing aid to those within certain regions and of a certain ethnic background that are shown statistically to be disadvantaged for reasons that heavily correlate to their skin color. Doing that is still vastly better than assuming everyone is the same regardless of background and identity and therefore ignoring all of that and enacting universally uniform policies which has been shown to preserve the current distribution of poor people of a certain background vs the well-off people of another background.\n\nThere are clear cut systemic problems and you can't fix that without recognizing them and addressing them directly by rebalancing the system. If you lay over a flat all-covering solution it only maintains the unproportional differences that already exist. \n\nYou're gay but your life experiences are not the same as another person who is gay. Especially if you are white and wealthy and another person is black and poor. But this difference doesn't mean that all gay men don't have an inherent disadvantage in a society and culture that consists of many people and institutions that discriminate against gays. The difference is that people experience this discrimination in very different ways and to different degrees.",
"Of course racial bias exists. Its just really hard to measure, and a disparate outcome does not necessarily mean injustice is the cause. ",
"You clearly did not comprehend my comment, yet you felt the need to reply. Ok. If you want to go around calling people racist, maybe focus on people who are mistreating and disrespecting others. ",
"Good bot",
"Didn't you learn anything from Bright? /s",
"> Honestly it only matters to those looking to be offended.\n\n\"Honestly,\" that's not true at all. Go talk to a group of people with a stutter; open your speech with \"I look out at all you stutterers,\" and see what kind of reaction you get. Go for it.\n\nOr, at your next job interview, why don't you tell them your previous boss was \"a black\" and see if you get a call back.\n\nIf you can't be bothered to have some basic fucking decency when referring to people at literally no cost to yourself, that's fine. But that's your choice to be an asshole for no reason, you don't also get to blame the people who would prefer to be identified as a human being and not some aspect of their appearance or health.",
"Explain where I went wrong then. The fact that you are avoiding answering my simple question says alot already.",
"Death taxes won't take 100% of the accumulated wealth. Children of rich parents still benefit from their work more than poor children benefit from the work of their parents",
"> If you are white in this country, you are racist.\n\nGood God, you're an idiot.\n\n> Don't speak \"for\" black people (they are not monolith and you don't speak for them anyway)\n\nI do admit I enjoy the irony and the complete lack of self-awareness.",
"The reality is it's in people's natures to separate and elevate themselves above other people. Whether it's race, religion, social class, or whatever. It doesnt really matter what it is or how dumb it is. People will always focus on and demonize what's different. I don't think you can ever really eliminate that. ",
"> Race is a useless biological category because it's based on superficial characteristics like skin tone, hair color and texture and facial features.\n\nWhat do you define as \"superficial?\" These sorts of characteristics are what biologists use to classify all animals.\n\nHow can you tell the difference between a brown bear and a polar bear? Ever thought about it...?\n\n> Those differences are real but they don't separate humans from one another in any meaningful way.\n\nYou contradict yourself in the same sentence.\n\nThe differences are real. That's all that matters. Your subjective concept of \"meaningfulness\" is irrelevant.\n\n> They're just visual cues with no deeper meaning behind them. \n\nThere is a genetic origin of these differences, and the \"superficial\" differences match up with this genetic origin. It's not a coincidence that Japanese, Korean and Chinese people have similar appearance. They have closer ancestry to each other than they would have to a sub-saharan African.\n\n> Ginger people have ginger genes. So? What are you going to do with that information? It doesn't mean anything.\n\nLiterally: \"what are we going to do with scientific information?\"\n\nWhat is your point? You are saying information is bad?",
"When the education is coming from people like [this guy](https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/05/26/professor-suspected-in-berkeley-bike-lock-attack-arraigned-in-oakland-court/) the education is tainted.\n\nWhat a world we live in where condescending dumbasses can't figure out why people keep calling them condescending dumbasses when they walk around treating people like children and expecting them to receive their important helpful teachings.\n\nUnless you've published papers or written books about the relevant social/political/economic discussion, you have exactly as much to back up your opinions as everyone else. If you frame your argument as \"I'm teaching you why you're wrong sweety :))))\" you're NEVER going to be listened to! Because you come off as a condescending blowhard who thinks he knows better, when he really knows jack shit! What comes after literally does not matter, because the way you approach discussion doesn't work.\n\nFuck off, no you don't! I wish you nothing but figuring out why people think you're condescending.\n\nIf you think your opinion is the right one, explain WHY. Don't say \"I used to be like you poor souls, I've learned it's the right way, learn from me, you're all stupid.\" It's not that hard to just cut all the other shit and leave your actual argument. People who actually have something to say do not need to tell people they have the right opinion. \"I'm a stable genius\" -> he's an idiot. \"I used to be like you, aww, now I know the truth, maybe you should educate yourself\" -> this guy has no idea what the hell he's talking about, but for sure likes feeling superior.",
"No, human is a species. ",
"*checks the clock*",
"The hobbit movies were absolute shit BECAUSE of the effects. The trilogy was the green screen poster child. What made LotR such a great collection of movies, aside from the story itself of course, was how well the effects were integrated into live action. \n\nYou may be able to go back now and drab on about how horrible those effects seem, but at that time they were amazing. This is why CG needs to be used sparingly in films which are reliant upon live action to drive the story. \n\nKeep your hobbit movies, LotR extended are the real mvps.",
"We should pay attention to *people* who are struggling. I don’t feel like grouping them by race helps anything.",
"Goodnight internet, that’s enough for today.",
"> Race is a loosely defined\n\nSo?\n\n> rarely used designation\n\nHAHAHA\n\nIs that a fucking joke? It is used CONSTANTLY.\n\n> isn't included in any standard system of taxonomic hierarchy\n\nSo? Maybe that's an omission due to social taboo?",
"Stating that the word racism should only embody the centuries-old conflict between white Americans and black Americans is extremely narrow-minded and totally overshadows the racism that occurs in other parts of the world, and to the minority groups who are persecuted by both whites and blacks. Sadly, racism isn't a black and white issue, it's a HUMAN issue, and all you do by redefinining the word is alienate the people who most need to be educated on SYSTEMIC racism, and parrot all the tired, old, left-wing white guilt rhetoric.",
"I'm sorry, what other way is there?",
"The first step in becoming less ignorant is to see the ignorance in your own statements.",
"That depends entirely on population. ",
"And god is dead!",
"Me neither but for some weird reason I want him to impregnate me now.",
"> race as opposed to populations\n\nRace is a classification of populations.\n\n> Grouping people based on skin color and even haplogroups has no scientific basis and that's why race shouldn't be considered anything but a social construct.\n\nOk - and what about 23AndMe. Classification based on genetics? Is that a fraud?",
"> “Color-blind” anti-racist whites are heavily criticized by POC\n\nYeah, no. That's not a thing.\n\nCriticism comes when racist whites use \"color blindness\" as a flimsy pretext to ignore the ongoing impacts of racism in society (edit: lol like you literally just did below that's hilarious).\n\n\"What's that, we should possibly look more closely at inherent bias in police departments and their policies? No way! That would be *seeing color* and *we don't do that.\"\n\n\n\n",
"It depends on which level of extremist you talk to, but it’s all double taxation. ",
">1) Who are these counter protesters who said black lives didn't matter?\n\nNo one said directly* black lives didn't matter, what \"All Lives Matter\" meant to the counter protesters were that the \"Black Lives Matter\" protesters didn't have a legitimate argument, that those who got killed by the police did something to provoke it, that the issues in their community are either overblown or need only an internal fix, or a variety of other problems with the BLM platform. The first one is important--- the slogan used by those counter protesters used to be \"BLUE lives matter\" which they took from various police organizations, but they switched it to All Lives Matter. They are saying that black people in various areas are provoking and attacking police and partially are to blame.\n\n*I'll explain what I meant when I said \"directly.\" BLM are arguing that their lives matter just as much as anyone else, and they are laying out their grievances to explain why they feel that way. The ALM counter protesters disagree through various reasons. If the BLM movement is the correct one, then in a round about way, the ALM protesters ARE actually saying their lives don't matter. But that's more of an odd interpersonal reflection.\n\n>2) If you think we can't take the message literally then is your interpretations of \"All lives matter\" the same as if I said \"white lives matter\"?\n\nNo, although it's hard to say what \"White Lives Matter\" really means because no one actually uses it. In a vacuum, it sounds a little like a quasi-white empowerment movement, because it would likely be copying the BLM stances but reversing it to mean white people. All Lives Matter, again, was a slogan of a protest group who had specified views.\n\n>3) How could I say \"all lives matter\" in the literal sense without using the literal phrase? If it isn't possible, then how is this woman's sign different?\n\nThe woman in the picture isn't using a very specific slogan used by a specific group of counter-protesters.\n",
"> because other people see the race.\n\nIf something is observable, then it exists unless you can prove otherwise.\n\n> There are innate \"common knowledge\" differences we see between different races but those are all socially constructed, not biological.\n\nYou are saying we can observe differences between the races. What part of that is socially constructed? These are observations.\n\nIf we can observe it, then it exists.\n\nOr, are you saying that society has warped our mind to such a degree that we don't \"see\" accurately when looking at a person? ",
"brings back pre-internet memories. riding bikes and r/incidentalporn. thanks. ",
"That's the distinction I'm trying to make, but I get what you're saying. Race is one thing, nationality is another. However, at least in today's world, race (physical features) does play a part in identity because a lot of people define others by race. I suppose what I'm getting at in my original post is that in an ideal world race wouldn't matter (be \"color/eye shape blind\") and people would instead define others by their cultural heritage or nationality. Like, it'd ideally be \"Kenyan people are so hospitable\" instead of \"Black people are (whatever)\"\n\nBut--idk, as a black British person, is that offensive? Does someone saying that color shouldn't matter strip you of a part of your identity? I'm not trying to be offensive, just honestly curious. Being politically correct is such a minefield nowadays. ",
"> There’s no difference in saying “all lives matter” and “I don’t see race”\n\nHaha, okay. \"Anti-racist whites\" logic.",
"Lol I'm a white guy you segregationist fuck",
"No, no, he just called the people who were marching alongside Neo Nazis and white nationalists \"very fine people\". And yes, he failed to denounce those groups, which in context is essentially an endorsement. They fucking *loved* his response.\n\nAnd he said \"I've condemned neo-Nazis\", but did he actually do it? Here's the thing: that's a weasel-word way of pretending to be on the right side of history without actually doing it. He never condemned them. When he said he had, *he was lying*.\n\nLike I said, if you really want to defend him, you can go ahead and ignore the broader context and hide behind technicalities, or you can read between the lines and get that he is totally fucking racist, and he is doing everything he can to side with racist groups without outright saying so. Deniability is the refuge of the coward.\n\nEDIT: Wow, the article you linked is literally titled \"Trump Defends White-Nationalist Protesters: 'Some Very Fine People on Both Sides'\". You were saying something about context?",
"I would be interested to hear your answer to the question.",
"You are arguing in favor of segregation, though. So, you're a white nationalist, then?",
"Lots of kids did! I really don’t remember when I did though, but plenty figure things out young. And there’s not a thing wrong with that.",
"Your echo chamber's calling kid, back to work!",
"Are you kidding around? Dogs are wolves that we have bred over thousands of years of selective breeding. We picked the traits we wanted and discarded the ones we didn't. There are no natural huskys or Great Danes or chihuahuas. A \"natural\" dog would look more or less like a mutt. Humans created breeds by pairing dogs with similar traits together over and over to get specialized dogs. You should read more about it, it's actually really interesting. [Here's an article about it.]http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2005/12/frankenfido.html)",
"Uh, okay. Not really sure what you think constitutes an 'ad hominem' here, but I guess that's irrelevant to the point.\n\nA really obvious example of a form of race-based institutional oppression in the United States would be slavery. Clearly that's not a contemporary issue, but since you seem to be so incredulous of the very concept that racism/oppression can be manifested beyond just direct individual prejudice, I figured it would be an easy one to highlight.\n\nDepending on what angle you take, there's a number of more-contemporary examples. Honestly, just read the [wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism) on it, since it's gonna be more informative than anything I could describe here.",
"Gotcha. I kind of figured from what you were saying, thanks for clarifying. ",
"> The analogy wouldn't be \"person with stutter\", it would be \"person OF stutter\" - which defines them just as much by their disability as \"stutterer\".\n\nWhat?\n\n\"Person with a stutter\" <-- Okay\n\n\"Stutterer\" <-- Not so much, try to avoid\n\n\"Person of stutter\" <-- What? Nobody ever says that\n\nThis isn't just some hypothetical. I work with people who treat stuttering disorders. This language is enforced in all of our discussions, documentation and external communications to align with care providers and the general preference of the community. It's not just something I made up.",
"Things can exist through social construction. \n\nI can see someone with a Swatstika tattoo and recognize that he is a Nazi because we've socially conditioned ourselves to interpret the symbol towards nazism. ",
"> And besides, breeds aren't natural, we created them.\n\nIrrelevant.\n\nHumans have also naturally evolved into separate races.",
"They have positions as critical race theory professors at universities and write books about race ",
"Again most people don't analyse another person's speech that critically. \n\nI for one, am more concerned by the ideas behind someone's speech rather than the exact words and phrases they use. Why? Because that's what actually matters (and because I'm not always looking to be offended) \n\nYou seem to forget that English isn't everyone's first language ([just over 5% of the world's population in fact](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers)), so expecting people to get things \"right\" the way you deem it to be is rather bigoted don't you think?",
"So you’re telling me I can’t get banged by a big, burly husky that stands on two legs and speaks English when I grow up?",
">All I’m saying is that once we stop seeing people for their race, and rather for their personality, a lot of our social issues would be lessened.\n\nExcept that the way we understand people's personalities is racialized. White Katrina victims \"found\" supplies from a nearby grocery store, while black Katrina victims \"looted\" supplies, [according to the Associated Press.](http://beta.latimes.com/nation/la-na-harvey-20170829-story.html) White women give birth to babies with 'neonatal drug withdrawal,' while black women give birth to 'crack babies.' When Justine Diamond was killed in Minneapolis the New York Times headline described the police killing as [\"unusual.\"](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/22/us/minneapolis-police-shooting.html) When Philando Castile was killed in Minneapolis, the New York Times headline [pointed out the number of times he had been pulled over in the past 13 years.](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/17/us/before-philando-castiles-fatal-encounter-a-costly-trail-of-minor-traffic-stops.html)\n\nPersonality judgements are tinged by race. Pretending otherwise is just being dishonest. ",
"Except I wasn't talking about race. ",
"ok. Tell the Japanese that they aren't really Japanese. ",
"This person gets it.",
"I wish we could speak face to face. I feel like we'd connect a lot more genuinely and you would possibly not refer to me like you are.",
"",
"duuuuuuude stop bringing up all of these statistics and shit I’m just saying that I think it would be beneficial if we stopped taking race so seriously, I’m not saying racism doesn’t exist",
"> Doing that is still vastly better than assuming everyone is the same regardless of background and identity and therefore ignoring all of that and enacting universally uniform policies which has been shown to preserve the current distribution of poor people of a certain background vs the well-off people of another background.\n\nYou've got my attention, but I'm going to need to see some actual proof of this statement, because I think that's where we differ. I think that a flat ground in terms of policy is what we should aim for, because it's what the end goal is. I don't believe that the end justifies the means in that by creating a biased system (even temporarily), you're going to unfairly affect people again because of an *average*. Not every white person is richer than every black person, and those that don't fit the average trend will be hurt by this.\n\nI do acknowledge that these systems exist, but I view the way to resolve them is not with more discrimination (no matter how well intended) in the opposite direction, but with education about these systems and why they are inherently systemically racist, and why that is bad. These systems didn't just appear out of nowhere, they were created by people. And people's minds can be changed if they are shown what harm their actions lead to.\n\nIf everyone was 'colourblind', in a sense, would these systems still exist? I don't think they would, and that's where my view comes from. If everyone viewed it like this, these systems would go away over time, which is why I think the method should be to try and educate people to see through race. Just my thoughts.\n\n>There are clear cut systemic problems and you can't fix that without recognizing them and addressing them directly by rebalancing the system.\n\nAgain, source? This seems like your own opinion on the matter, which is fine, but shouldn't really be what decides policy. If you have a paper or something that proves the problem is unfixable via education on the subject I'll read it.",
"😩",
"> Again most people don't analyse another person's speech that critically.\n\nAgain, yes they do.\n\n> I for one, am more concerned by the ideas behind someone's speech rather than the exact words and phrases they use. Why? Because that's what actually matters\n\nNo, that's not the only thing that matters. That's always the argument people make when they want to say whatever the fuck they want with no consequence.\n\nThe intent of your words matter, but so does their **impact** on the listener.\n\n> You seem to forget that English isn't everyone's first language\n\nDo I?\n\n> so expecting people to get things \"right\" the way you deem it to be is rather bigoted don't you think?\n\nOh give me a fucking break.",
"They're not attacks. The one example you cited is explicitly not an attack on white people. Interpreting it as an attack is defensiveness on your part, about something you have no reason to be defensive about: white privilege. I acknowledge white privilege, and am by no means wracked with guilt or self-loathing regarding the circumstances of my birth. Oh, the horror, I was born lucky in that one respect. I drew a lot of jokers, too, but having grown up in a generationally impoverished, uneducated community with all the same ills stereotypically ascribed to any poor community, this one advantage is only more evident out here in the larger world. The ol' blue beamers have definitely worked in my favor in getting jobs, housing, favorable treatment from police and courts, and the general benefit of the doubt that comes with being just \"a guy,\" rather than \"a black guy\" or even \"I don't know, some kinda ethnic feller.\" \n\nGetting white people to acknowledge that privilege is critical to making any headway against systemic racism. Even white people who identify as anti-racist often want to ascribe racism to some \"other,\" and not accept that it's something that benefits us day in and day out. ",
"> You don't change a system like racism (or sexism) by going - yes let's all just be equal. And...go! \n\nThis is where we disagree. The root of racism is the belief that skin color is relevant to a person’s worth and/or social standing. The way to change the system is to destroy this belief, not use it for your own pet agendas.",
"Lol nah its not offensive, you’re right. In an ideal world that *would* be great, its just the fact that that isn’t the case. Some people treat it like we’re there already, and i was just trying to make the point that those people think they’re being so progressive etc etc when in fact its detrimental behaviour ",
"I have opinions but people are to violent when debating topics and nobody is going to listen to eachother ",
"Couple things, none of those things are institutional racism. Sentencing disparities is about the closest thing mentioned in the video however, that isn’t a product of just one factor. The study cited from 03 was one study, I would honestly like to see it repeated now. That study also concluded that resumes with addresses from good neighborhoods received 30% more callbacks than resumes from bad areas regardless of the name on the resume. I am certainly not saying that disadvantages don’t exist and im not saying that racists or racism doesn’t exist. Institutional racism did cause some of the problems within thier community, it reallly disadvantaged AA’s in terms of poverty and a lack of opportunity for 150 years after the civil war. So fast forward to today, we have equality of opportunity and laws giving AA’s easier access to university ( thier college grad rates have been increasing so I can only assume that policy is working) and government employment. Education and access to it along with promoting the nuclear family (every study ever conducted has concluded that having two parents is a huge advantage) are the path but that takes time, generational poverty won’t be elimnated overnight. ",
"Race and ethnicity are completely different ideas. Race is the perception people have of which group you belong to. Ethnicity is your history. You can be black and be part Jew, part Russian, part Ghanaian. All those ethnicities - that heritage - tells you about someone. For example on the morbid side of things, it can predispose you to certain diseases. Ethnicity can be important depending on the type of work done, like social work or research.\n\nSo how do you plan to compensate black people for were prevented from getting a mortgage until 1960? Or black people for being raised by someone who didn't have access to higher education? Do you think that has a monetary value? So you support reparations?",
"Because Diversity is our greatest strength. ",
"I mean, great job copy and pasting from Wikipedia, but I guess I’m confused by what point your trying to make here. Because it seems like you believe that Neanderthals interbred with Homo sapiens. And if that’s the idea that you support, then what is you definition of species? ",
"Me too! That'd be great. Then you could show me all the credentials you've racked up that give you more authority on the subject of race than anyone else.",
"All of them? So they chose themselves? ",
"> I'd take issue with it\n\nTherefore you have, on some level, taken sides. Admirable!\n\n> The world doesn't exist for you and your standards.\n\nThe world doesn't exist for anything. We make meaning by what we do, or don't do, and those actions are predicated on our thoughts and ideology. It's true that many people who tend toward a higher path do so in order to sublimate the hollow nature of existence, and thus I can forgive people who assume I am arrogant, because my words are similar to spiritual materialists. However, when you assume too much, it makes you yourself look like something; though I'm sure you care just as much as I do (not at all). ",
"Phrased like that, what you're saying makes more sense to me. I guess the idea is to prevent wealth from accumulating in one family because that's just a form of nepotism. I'd need to know more about the death tax lol. Strayed a little far from my original point, but interesting conversation nonetheless",
"But the social issues that exist because of racism can't disappear until every single person starts to stop giving race any importance and treat everyone the same. If there are still racists treating people poorly solely based on race but everyone who isn't racist refuses to acknowledge or discuss race, the racists win and continue their hate filled ways unstopped. If you blind yourself completely to race and refuse to discuss it, racism will not be stopped, but you will be stopped from knowing when racism occurs.",
"Perfect!",
"> Also naturally\n\nNo, dogs did not *naturally* evolve into separate races, that was my whole point. My issue was with the dog analogy, since we created all distinct breeds. Besides, all dogs are the same species, just like humans.",
"Yeah. The ones who created the term all work at universities.",
"No, not at all. This simply illustrates the bias behind his comment.",
"Yes all lives matter ",
"Damn straight.\n",
"> No, dogs did not naturally evolve into separate races, that was my whole point.\n\nWe both evolved. What difference does it make if it's \"natural\" or not?\n\nYou just mean they evolved in a special environment (curated by humans). What difference does that make?",
"It doesn't on the whole for every person in every race, no. It should, yes.",
"Or how about, crazy idea, instead of pretending we're all exactly the same, we acknowledge and celebrate our individual heritages and not judge other people based on theirs?",
"To me, diversity is our greatest strength because it leads to better results when we cooperate. If we don’t cooperate, it’s pointless. You can’t make a good cake unless you mix the ingredients together.",
"I think we're in agreement - saying it doesn't exist is wrong.",
">I grew up in the black side of town and lost jobs because \"the black kid needed the job more than me because I can get a job anywhere\" (actual words said to me) \n\nThen you can sue for employment discrimination. Gays can't say the same if they are thrown out of their jobs.\n\n>I was beat up, lost jobs, asked to leave restaurants, told I couldn't date someone's daughter.\n\nThe first is a crime, the second is illegal, the third is illegal, the fourth is just shitty behavior. \n\nBut the difference it's not illegal to do the second and third actions to someone because they are gay. They have no recourse. That's a privilege you have.",
"Yeah, because a swastika is a symbol invented by humans. Hence... socially constructed.\n\nWe are talking about the biological reality that Asian parents have Asian children...",
"Really? You think a white comedian in 2018 can make the same jokes as a black comedian? You see what's going on in our White House for heaven's sake, he himself is trying to white-wash this country and you think we should just skip around \"la la la\" race doesn't exist? \n\nLol.",
"This is a micro aggression ",
"The difference is that one has nothing to do with the other. One is man made and one is natural. That's the difference. Different races are not the same as dog breeds. The reason people have different skin color is because of distance from the equator mostly. Dogs are literally genetically engineered. That's my whole point. ",
"OR we could care about race, appreciate where everyone comes from, and acknowledge our differences and celebrate them. ",
"Babies in the United States are typically raised in \"somebody else's culture?\" Whose culture is that?",
"Lol what a weird place to put this reply. I guess it was just to hijack a popular comment?\n\nToo bad it's wrong, there are many different species of canine for example:\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subspecies_of_Canis_lupus\n\nHowever all humans, regardless of race are classified as homo sapiens.",
"OR you could still see race and not treat people worse because they are different than you? *shocker*",
"*Applause*",
"Definitely shrugged it off but it also opened my eyes. Racism comes in all colors. Some people are assholes ",
"Because no one else here is?",
"Eh there's a pretty strong historical linkage between cultural production and race. And especially one that plays into ethnocentrism. ",
"Facts: terrorist incidents committed in the name of Islam since the year 2000. ",
"I always wondered if orcs eat Stroopwafels\n\n",
"So.. you're saying your daughter is white and you never talked to her about different skin colors? Maybe fuck you then? Because her comment was 100% right. White people DID used to treat black people poorly in this country. Instead of waving it off and making it an \"us vs. them\" story for her now, you could've explained that with empathy.",
"MLK wanted equality, not 100% all the same type of people. That's Hitler's manifesto ",
"See, I don't think you'd act like that face to face. I am a big believer that people are much more friendly and care for others more than they seem to online. I'm trying to be more zen in all my online interactions this year. I'm sorry I was inadequate in the ways in which I tried to explain myself here, and I hope I can improve in the future. I am not without humility, and I certainly am not more qualified than anyone else. I am, however, confident in the ways that I think and the causes I try to fight for. I know it doesn't pay to act all wishy-washy about things, especially if you believe in them. So yes, I presented my views as solidly as I felt was appropriate. I see in you, any many other here, me at around 29 or 30. After that, I started to broaden my mind a bit more. It felt embarrassingly late at the time, too!",
"I got my first porn from a vending machine. It was in the 70's in France. I went to the local traveling fair, and after spending most of my money on the bumper cars, I decided to take a chance and gave my last coins to a machine in a corner. I got a little pack of playing cards (maybe 3\" by 2\") and the pictures on it were of T&A. I kept that pack for a long time. ",
"Except that \"race\" has no taxonomic validity in the first place, and \"human race\" is indeed a thing people say, and invoking the \"human race\" is a super common way of highlighting the abstract and ephemeral nature of the socio-political construct of race. Besides all that, you really got'em good. ",
"Putting aside your obvious desire to control people's speech, let's go back to the \"less than 6% of the world speaks English as a first language\" for a minute.\n\nCan you not see how horribly stupid and narrow minded it is to judge everything a person says based on the structure of their language, when people have a infinitely variable grasp of the English language? The assumptions you have to make about a person in order to do that are astronomical.\n\nIt's not just presumptuous, it's incredibly narcissistic to assume everyone speaks like you.\n\nTo judge a person based on the exact word they use rather than the obvious meaning behind them assumes they have the exact understanding of the English language as you have, the same level of schooling, thought, comprehension... it's just absurd.\n\n",
"In the case of where I'm from (Kissimmee, FL), Puerto Rico. It's gotten to the point where they don't teach classes in English anymore at the local elementary school. Now, of course I don't mean to imply that it's a common occurrence, but certain pockets of FL, TX, and CA look like a different country. ",
"I'm not surprised you could be so certain of something you factually don't know. Holocaust deniers tend to have this trait in common.",
"It was certainly unusual, though, wasn't it? Imagine if it were the usual. That has to suck.",
"You literally cannot stop.\n\nIt's impressive!",
"Reading the comments made me sad.",
"> The difference is that one has nothing to do with the other.\n\nWhat? It's just animals being selected, resulting in evolution. There's quite a lot in common!\n\n> The reason people have different skin color is because of distance from the equator mostly.\n\nYes... they were in different environments... so they evolved darker skin...\n\nEvolution happens in any environment, whether that environment is modified by humans or not.\n\nAnd btw, you could also say that human evolution is unnatural because we, as humans, modified it with our own changes to the environment.\n\nFor example, long ago humans learned to use tools. Then, they introduced tools into their own environment. Tools are \"unnatural\" because humans created it, yet it modified human evolution.",
"Thanks! That's the first positive thing you've said, here. At least my persistence has garnered an impression.\n\nI really mean it when I say I wish you the best, bud.",
"The level of genetic diversity across \"races\" isn't high enough to classify different groups as distinct biological categories. Also, it's unreliable, as people from different races often share more in common genetically than two people from the same race. The difference is largely phenotypic. ",
"Why is \"color-blind\" a society you would want, when we are literally different colors and different cultures? We have different languages, different art... why not celebrate all of the differences instead of trying to make everyone the same?",
"No way its going to happen until we find some other species to project our insecurities unto.",
"> Except that \"race\" has no taxonomic validity in the first place\n\nThis is completely false.",
"A slightly lower BMI avatar with better dental integrity scores.",
"Of course it does, it's completely valid to ask why black people struggle more than white people as a race. It's very significant. When looked at as a demographic the disparity is massive... even simple things like, [people with black sounding names are less likely to get calls for a job](http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html).\n\nUntil these issues no longer exist, they should be talked about, otherwise they continue in silence.",
"Contemporary examples are the only examples that are remotely relevant. Why are you discussing things that aren’t happening currently? I assumed that was obvious. Unless you have a time machine and would like to go back in time and change history, then discussing slavery in the context of whether any “systematic oppression” actually exists is completely inappropriate. \n\nCurrent issues. Current systematic oppression. Point it out to me. \n\n\n",
"Life is way more complex than just checking race boxes.",
"Jesus.\n\nNo, you don't.\n\nStop blaming other people for calling you out when you behave condescendingly.\n\nNot replying any more.",
"They say it was 20.4 longer for blacks or accounting for criminal records and 20.7 not accounting, that’s not a huge difference. This was a study in federal prisons which only holds about 7.5% of the prison population. The answer t that would be to deduct which specific judges are responsible as it’s not written into law it would be an example of a wide reaching individual bias as opposed to institutional racism. I wonder if they have an studies on state prisons, although I don’t think it would deviate from this study all that much. The problem with this being the only response I ever get is that this takes place after criminal conviction which itself is a major handicap once released, I don’t see how this negatively effects the community in a meaningful way. Yes 20% is far too much the average federal prison sentence is 6 years so black convicts sit for an average of 1.2 years longer, which while significant is not world changing. ",
"Yea. Also, I love chocolate cake and I love vanilla cake. ",
"check my account bruh. just someone who frequents political threads and notices people cower from real arguments and instead inject nonsensical rhetoric and label anyone who disagrees with them as a troll, racist, nazi, or just a moron",
"Some people like it here. :(",
"It's not the same though. My whole point is that human races are not the same as dog breeds because dog breeds are created through artificial selection and human races through natural selection. That's a huge taxonomical difference. You can argue until you're blue in the face, but my point stands. It's disingenuous to say \"it's just animals being selected resulting in evolution\", because dogs would not be the breeds they are without humans. A better analogy would be an animal that within its species has different naturally occurring differences. The only point I'm making is that dog breeds are a bad analogy for races because they aren't natural and human races are. ",
"In what world do you live that you think gays don't have the same protections? Sexual discrimination is a thing and is against the law. \n\nWhen all this happened I was young and dumb, you just listen to adults when they tell you things, I wasn't a lawyer nor could I afford one.",
"It is a unfortunate side effect from the introduction to foreign bodies, as most throughout history, we stand not only the shoulders of giants but on the mountain of lives payed for that knowledge.",
"Dont forget the rat race! we all are",
"Your argument makes no sense. You just don't understand evolution. Goodbye",
"Because culture transcends race? I think a black guy born and raised in the US is much more American than a German white fella who can't speak English. Mixing race and culture is actually a mistake; it's factually wrong.\n\nA colorblind society makes sense, one that ignores cultural differences does not.",
"Dude... You have no idea what you're talking about from a biological perspective. Nice rage quit when you lost, though. ",
">Now, of course I don't mean to imply that it's a common occurrence, but certain pockets of FL, TX, and CA look like a different country. \n\nOr maybe they just look like a part of your country that you don't often think about?\n\nPuerto Ricans are U.S. citizens -- Puerto Rican culture is U.S. culture.",
"Literally the most scientifically accurate sign of any 'race' debate.",
"I don't think you understand lol. They didn't die to \"stop making race an issue.\" They died because they were combating racial oppression, which exists (albeit in different ways) today. Don't co-opt our ancestors' struggle in a feeble attempt to justify erasure of racial inequalities lol. ",
"Race is completely unscientific. [Read up. ](https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/there-no-such-thing-race-283123%3famp=1) ",
"i googled it despite now knowing the answer was lower. im hoping google doesn't think im into eating doo-doo from now on.",
"No, we can't agree because you would literally be changing the meaning of the word \"race\". Words have meanings, you don't get to just change them on a whim. It makes no more sense than saying \"ONE WAFFLE: HUMAN\"\n\n\n\nThere's a lot of words available, use them to describe what you want to do instead of trying to change them.\n\n",
"I mean be the change you want to see, in your day to day interaction with someone of a different color do you treat them differently? ",
"Long live the Thalmor!",
"Honestly, I'm not convinced that even half of the people on earth at the moment have any concept of \"humanity\" or \"world.\" For the global nationalist resurgence, \"ONE RACE: HUMAN\" does not appear to be the goal, or a parsable sentiment. For many people, loyalty is the highest order concept they can grasp, and all they hear when we talk about \"humanity\" or \"earth\" is \"I'm not on your team.\" ",
"Now, now, no blaming me for not wishing you the best when you actually just can't envision me as someone who would. Gotta learn to accept your failings, just like I accept mine in explaining myself above despite my best efforts.\n\nPerhaps you just don't want to be wished the best. I wouldn't presume, though.",
"well dogs eat shit too... maybe we're the weird ones?\n\n",
"I totally agree with you. I'm not sure if you thought that I don't agree with this (very human) line of thinking, but I definitely agree. I was only irritated bc OP was acting like that stuff doesn't matter at all. But, yes, you're right, these things are much more granular than single-word associations. ",
"... why tho",
"Technically speaking races don't exist in humanity and all attempts at forcing race into genetics and taxonomy are pseudoscience at best.",
"The only systemic racism left is that of affirmative action and quotas.",
"He can’t, because it doesn’t currently exist. ",
"WTF I never argued for segregation, I don't know where you got that",
"> Sexual discrimination is a thing and is against the law. \n\n[Discrimination based on sexual orientation is still legal in 30 states.](https://www.fastcompany.com/40456937/heres-everywhere-in-the-u-s-you-can-still-get-fired-for-being-gay-or-trans) There's no federal ban on discrimination against gays or lesbians in the workplace. The Trump administration [is arguing against](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/27/lgbt-protection-sex-discrimination-law-241039) reading the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as giving federal protections to LBGT people. \n\nSo I'm not sure where you are getting the idea that discriminating against someone based on sexual orientation is against the law (unless you are in one of the ~20 states that prohibit it).",
"This is literally a conversation about semantics.",
"There’s one party actively practicing identity politics. Either you support democrats or you’re a racist. If you voted trump and you’re a woman, you hate your gender. If you’re black and support Trump you’re an Uncle Tom. If you’re a white man and voted trump you’re a white supremacist. If you’re gay and voted trump you’re don’t care about the LGBTQ community. \n\nOnly one party is telling you either you’re with us or you’re (an inflammatory name). ",
"Education. Travel. Open mindedness. ",
"I pointed out historical examples as a direct rebuke to your claim that 'only individuals can be racist.' If institutional issues have existed in the past, they still can today.\n\nMany of the issues cited in the link I sent you can be considered contemporary. Of course, off the top of my head, many people would claim that the judicial/prison system is an example where there remain some systemic issues. And likewise, historical events can still have lasting impacts today––think political gerrymandering of voting districts, or the long-term housing and education impacts of mid-century 'white flight' in urban areas. ",
"i doubt my late dog misty was eating particulate out of the cats litter box.\n\nthe bacteria living in peoples' intestines is vital to survival, unless you think you can live without vitamin K; of course it would be beneficial to colonize such organisms in ones' own gut.",
"Yeah this isn’t TD, you can’t just link the word facts, and then what I assume was an attempt at a coherent sentence, and call it true. But you didn’t say anything. You just said terrorist and Islam because those are the only two words you can reconcile in your tiny little mind.",
"Exactly what I was going to say",
"A similar sentiment was echoed with the protests in Birmingham.\n\nMartin Luther King Jr. wasn't liked when he was protesting, being told to appreciate the strides blacks had already made, and to slow down a bit.\n\nProtests are only widely seen to be appropriate in hindsight - at the time they are a disturbance.\n\nIt doesn't mean it can't be entirely disruptive to people stuck in traffic, but I'd like to see public polling data for BLM 50 years out.\n\n",
"White people murder cops, too...",
"You just keep repeating \"it's different,\" but you never explain how it is different, or why it matters. You have offered literally nothing to explain yourself.\n\nDogs and humans both evolved in different conditions. So what? Your point is...? \"One is natural, the other is unnatural.\" Ok... so...?\n\nThe sub-categories still exist, it doesn't matter what produced them (breeding vs natural selection). Why would it matter? You never even try to explain this. You just say \"that's a huge taxonomical difference.\" How?\n\n> It's disingenuous to say \"it's just animals being selected resulting in evolution\", because dogs would not be the breeds they are without humans.\n\nAre you saying that dogs didn't evolve to where they are now?\n\n> The only point I'm making is that dog breeds are a bad analogy for races because they aren't natural and human races are.\n\nWe are talking about categorical differences. The origin of those differences is irrelevant to the fact that those differences exist.",
"Not seeing color means seeing people for their personalities, merits, faults, etc - not their ethnicity or nationality or sexuality or religion. But what we seem to be doing these days is highlighting these aspects of identity over merit, on the basis of merit alone - not merit plus an identifying factor. ",
"Yes, I'm well aware. \n\n> Puerto Rican culture is U.S. culture.\n\nNo, it's not. It was a foreign land that developed it's own specific customs, achievements, traditions, etc. that was ceded to the US just before the 20th century. To say that Puerto Rican culture is the same as US culture ignores centuries of Puerto Rican history. I mean, there are more cultural similarities between the US and Canada than the mainland US & Puerto Rico.",
"FOR THE ALLIANCE!",
"Whats the different between eth icity and race? When do we decide that this amount of SNiPs makes a different race?",
"I can almost feel her personality",
"Yeah! We are separate but equal. Totally agree with you. /s",
"It was one of the first google results, but it's not like it's going to have changed since then. You can find plenty of other sources lol. But yeah, I just think it's neat. ",
"Whoa hold up did you just group up every person with fair skin as the same race? Anyone with dark skin is now black right? ",
"> HAHAHA\n> \n> Is that a fucking joke? It is used CONSTANTLY.\n\nNot by biologists.\n\n>So? Maybe that's an omission due to social taboo?\n\nI don't think there was huge social taboo around the term race [in 1867](https://archive.org/details/cu31924001723604) when they decided the term subspecies was more accurate.",
"You say \"mags\", which leads me to believe this was before the internet was as fucking omnipresent as it is now. I have to imagine people had to go out of their way to find shit porn back then, which almost makes it worse.",
"Those sources are poor at best. But I'm not arguing that there is not discrimination only that everyone is subject to it regardless of color, sex or sexual orientation. ",
"I would continue to shrug it off",
"Beach towns aren't backwaters. I was thinking like Fresno or Bakersfield or redding. ",
"User name checks out.",
"I agree with your sentiment, but what you said is factually incorrect. Civil rights act was only passed in 1964, Apartied ended in SA in 91, the last residential school in Canada didnt close until 96. Much of European decolonization didnt happen until the 60s. Again, I agree it is racist to say that *white people* as a group are responsible for these things, but to say that no one alive today directly benefitred from it is disingenuous.",
"As a white person I'm not concerned, we still have the most ownership of stuff and places in the world.",
"Neither. You're just a sky scripter stuck in the wrong window",
"What the person above me probably meant is \"There are classifications that are inferior to 'species', but they aren't major\" not \"There is absolutely no classification beyond species.\n\nOtherwise, I fear for the state of public education.",
"Who cares?",
"both actually, since there is only one race (homo sapiens sapiens) in the human species (homo sapiens)\nthere has been many related species.\nthere may even have been different sub-species (that could have been called races see Homo sapiens idaltu)",
"I didn't see it was /u/GallowBoob until you pointed it out, where is the original so I can Upvote that and downvote GB.",
">Why are white people required to acknowledge they're part of the problem of racism if nothing we do, say or think has any effect on the problem of racism?\n\nI think you are not quite getting the connection.\n\nTwo things are true at once.\n\n**I am a net contributor to global warming** simply by existing. There would be less of a global warming problem if I simply didn't exist. By existing I am part of the problem.\n\n**I can do things to lessen my impact** and to help others lessen their impact. The things you say and do can affect the problem. If people did enough to minimize their impact, other, stronger factors could take over and put us on a track to a stable climate.\n\nThe same argument applies to racism. Things you say and do affect the problem.\n\nNow, if you believe you do not have an impact on global warming, or that it isn't your problem that you were born an organism that breaths in oxygen and outputs carbon dioxide, then you are not going to do much to fix global warming. If you don't acknowledge you are contributing to it, then you are very unlikely to do anything to affect it in a positive direction.\n\nNow I know that in both of these situations there is a percentage of people who actually are having a significant net positive impact. But that isn't the norm.",
"I’m not saying make everyone the same. I’m saying that diversity of ideas doesn’t have to have anything to do with race.",
"I wonder, do you think polar bears, brown bears, and black bears refer to themselves as different races of bear?\n\nOr would it be easier to define for me what a race actually is?",
"First they'd have to find intelligent life here on Earth first before we are even considered worth to meet aliens.",
"the way that acknowledges that we are definitely NOT being treated equally because of our race, even though we definitely SHOULD be.",
"It's a stain that will never be removed from your browsering data.",
"Right? What else can you do? What choice would you even have? It would feel so hopeless.",
"> It was a foreign land that developed [its] *sic* own specific customs, achievements, traditions, etc. that was ceded to the US just before the 20th century.\n\nSo was Hawaii",
"Totally, thats a really good point. Hindsight is definitely 20/20 especially in cases like this. \n\nMy two cents though: i do feel a lot of whats happening now would be frowned upon by someone like MLK. I actually was stuck on the highway when BLM/supporters were protesting and all i saw was hatred, violence and general disrespect. There were people running around yelling obscenities at cars, banging on peoples hoods that were honking, etc... It looked more like an outlet for some of the people's anger than an organized protest. There was certainly no arm-in-arm marching happening. \n\nJust an anecdote but yea.",
"... this is the dumbest thing I've ever read... \n\n",
"Damn dawg, why so sensitive?",
"Nixon literally said the drug war was a construction against black people. There is plenty of evidence that injustice is the cause. Stop abusing plausible deniability.",
"You have failed to explain how any of those are caused by white racist oppression.\n\nPlease explain to me why you believe the judicial system is largely filled with minorities, and how that is a result of white racist oppression rather than individuals breaking the law. \n\nAnd please don’t think that you can point out a few outlier cases of wrongful imprisonment and think that argument means anything. You’re argument is that the current American judicial system is intentionally filling the prisons with minorities over white people. That’s everyone, not just the outliers.\n\nAlso, if you think politicians are redrawing voting districts for the purpose of discriminating against minorities somehow, then I don’t think you understand the purpose of political gerrymandering. It’s only purpose is to provide a political advantage and win elections. They don’t give a shit what color anyone is, the gerrymander-ers just know which political party minorities largely vote for (democrat) and they want to lump all democrat votes into the same districts if they can, because whoever wins the most districts, wins the State. \n\nBut again, to start, please explain to me why you believe the judicial system is largely filled with minorities, and how that is a result of white racist oppression rather than individuals breaking laws. \n\n(Side note:\n> I pointed out historical examples as a direct rebuke to your claim that 'only individuals can be racist.'\n\nNever said only individuals can be racist. You might want to read this (https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman) \n\nYou need to re-read my original comment, and what it was in response to. \n\n",
"Really? White people are having their farms seized in South Africa because of their skin color",
"This sign is literally one of the most ignorant things I've seen.\n\nRace assumes plurality. If there were only one race, you'd eliminate the need for the word/concept to even exist.\n\nIf there aren't raceS, then what the fuck is the importance of your racial history, or your accusations of systemic racism.\n\nIf anything, liberals emphasize the importance of race more than anyone.\n\nAnd therein lies the irony, that the people who use this kind of shit to virtue signal are the first people to generalize every problem in the world, or their personal lives, as being due to white people.",
"> and a cop is standing about five feet away across from this guy in a very passive manner with his hand kind of half up like \"hey hey now buddy, put the gun down lets talk this through\"\n\nWow, it's amazing how you were able to infer everything about the situation that unfolded, including the dialogue, just from a single still image.",
"I’m talking about the US, my statements may be incorrect elsewhere",
"Dang dog, why so willing to be talked down to? You got a complex being fulfilled?",
"None of what they said in their previous statement was ignorant though.",
"Maybe you should stop making blanket statements then",
"Heck yeah, man.\n\nYou da bess.\n\nI don't know who downvoted you, but eff em.",
"You mean like my buddy who got a multi thousand dollar grant to go to college based on his white privileged? OH WAIT.... THAT WAS A BLACK FRIEND WHO GOT IN BECAUSE OF HIS SKIN COLOR. How bout scholarship privileges for people that aren't even residents of our country over big bad mean whitey. How bout the fact that you claim against cops is a much more complex issue than you pretend it to be and surprise surprise, 95% of the time, urban african americans are the ones to blame for that problem. There is a mountain of evidence to disprove your stupid claims. Oh my god shut up with your horse shit talking points while parroting them as facts. The stupidity wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the confidence.",
"Not sure why this is downvoted...I mean, it's pretty straightforward and it's not mention to disparage white poverty at all. It's just acknowledging, in scientific terms, what we can consider an interaction effect of race * socioeconomic status in terms of predicting the shit certain people have to deal with.",
"> It was a foreign land that developed it's own specific customs, achievements, traditions, etc. that was ceded to the US just before the 20th century.\n\nWhy does it matter when it was ceded? It was ceded to the U.S. in 1899 -- 119 years ago. California was ceded in 1848 -- 170 years ago. Am I to believe that in 51 years, Puerto Rico will be as American as California is today? Or that California in 1950 (the golden age of Hollywood) was less American than Puerto Rico is today? Hollywood in 1950 was closer to cessation than Puerto Rico is to its cessation today.\n\nSo I'm not convinced that the date of cessation has anything to do with anything.\n\nRather, it's the fact that they speak a different language. But so what? America has always been a multilingual country -- we have no official language. \n\nOf course, Steve King would like to change that. He'd like to enshrine English as the national language. He also asks what nonwhites have [\"done for civilization?\"](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/19/us/politics/steve-king-nonwhite-subgroups.html) He opposes Puerto Rican statehood, and opposes any bailout of Puerto Rico post-Maria.\n\nSo as I mentioned before, there's a pretty tidy overlap between those who talk about \"culture\" and those who talk about race. ",
"Literally nothing stopping them from changing it.",
"That's a shit analogy that's deliberately intended to exaggerate what's going on, and changes the situation entirely.\n\nThe real situation here is that police kill too many people. Black people are disproportionately affected -- nobody disputes that. Not even ALM (and if you respond with some cherry-picked comment from an ALM guy disputing that, I'll just go over to some anti BLM sub and pull whatever the top post is, which has just as much relevance).",
"To take the example of black people, they aren’t struggling because they’re black, they’re struggling because of how certain elements of society perceive black people. So to me, it makes no sense to focus on their blackness. We should instead be trying to stamp out the xenophobia by emphasizing our similarities and not our differences.",
"That’s your only refutation? Lol, pathetic. ",
"A black guy born in America has a culture too though - that of a black American. To deny that is just uneducated on the topic. ",
"> Not by biologists.\n\nWrong\n\n> when they decided the term subspecies was more accurate.\n\nOk... so we should use the term \"subspecies?\"\n\nYou're just arguing semantics?",
"No, it isn't. We already have a definition of \"race.\" That's what the thread was about.\n\nIf we're just defining race as a synonym to ethnicity, then that's semantics.",
"Are you implying that stereotypes are unfounded?",
"We can disagree; as a teacher of students in a very diverse school I can tell you that's not the truth and it won't be for some generations at least. It's okay to value different people's backgrounds and what that brings to their ideas.",
"That isn’t how it is defined. There are species which Homo sapiens is one...then there were subspecies as you correctly identified, these are not races, they are subspecies of which sapiens is one.\n\nRace is used to categorize our subspecies based on ancestry and genetics. \n\nWhen people refer to the “human race” they are referring to the species and subspecies. \n\nIt’s ok to categorize there is nothing inherently wrong with it. Race doesn’t carry any connotations of superiority but does tell us about your ancestors and genetics. To completely dismiss our individual history seems a bit juvenile. ",
"Chance is this post will be lock is at 1/3rd now ",
"Which just refers to our species",
"Yes. Whites arent all racist and blacks dont all commit crimes. We should stop with this bullshit.",
"Frankly, I find the idea of a poop that thinks offensive! ",
"im quite scared of the ogres myself",
"How so? How are we highlighting races OVER merit? Appreciating a human being's race and culture does not mean you're not appreciating their merits or personality or ideas.",
"You are going to find the same information anywhere. [Here's Wikipedia.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_employment_discrimination_in_the_United_States) [The New York Times.](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/25/opinion/sunday/worst-and-best-places-to-be-gay.html) [Human Rights Campaign.](https://www.hrc.org/blog/map-how-many-states-still-lack-clear-non-discrimination-protections)\n\nThey are all agreeing with me.\n\n>But I'm not arguing that there is not discrimination only that everyone is subject to it regardless of color, sex or sexual orientation. \n\nAnd if you are subject to it, you can sue. Unless you are gay. That's where the privilege comes in. You don't have to worry about being discriminated against because of your sexual orientation -- they do.",
"> Did you seriously link an article saying reperations should be a thing?\n\nYes, that's what it says. Ta-Nehisi Coates is one of the better writers out there on that subject. Perhaps you should read and consider the actual content instead of being reactionary towards a headline?\n",
">All ~~animals~~ humans are equal, but some ~~animals~~ humans are more equal than others.\n\nTo paraphrase George Orwell.\n\n",
"Found the Canadian. ",
"... I don't follow, but okay",
"I think that the core sentiment that race is a defining characteristic of a person is dangerous. It doesn’t matter whether it’s being used for justice in this instance, it needs to be removed from the collective consciousness altogether. There are other, better ways to right the wrongs that exist today.",
"Jesus, you just don't get it. It is not okay to discriminate against anyone. Period. It's not okay to discriminate against a white person because they are discriminated against less than anyone else. I never said it was okay and I never said it doesn't happen. I don't know where you got the idea that I did.",
"I'm saying biologically the information serves no purpose. It's an arbitrary classification of humans. Might as well classify all humans by ear lobe size and number of taste buds on their tongue and call that a race.",
"> Why does it matter when it was ceded? It was ceded to the U.S. in 1899 -- 119 years ago. California was ceded in 1848 -- 170 years ago. Am I to believe that in 51 years, Puerto Rico will be as American as California is today? \n\nNorthern California was relatively unoccupied and the people who lived in Southern California were mostly replaced by American settlers from the East. Also, California didn't have hundreds of years of culture evolution unlike Puerto Rico. At least not a culture that survived anyway. They're completely different.\n\n> Rather, it's the fact that they speak a different language. But so what? America has always been a multilingual country \n\nNot true. America has always been an overwhelmingly English-speaking country. Just because there were a relatively few people who didn't speak it doesn't negate that fact. \n\n> Of course, Steve King would like to change that. He'd like to enshrine English as the national language. He also asks what nonwhites have \"done for civilization?\" He opposes Puerto Rican statehood, and opposes any bailout of Puerto Rico post-Maria.\nSo as I mentioned before, there's a pretty tidy overlap between those who talk about \"culture\" and those who talk about race.\n\nNo, it just proves that one man, Steve King, means race when he says culture. ",
"Exactly! Is Hawaiian culture the same as American culture? Does your average American work up an appetite for a luau by surfing for a few hours?",
"Yes it was designed with racist intent, and I agree the drug war is a disaster. Thats not my argument. Im saying that the disproportionate rate of police interaction in the black community in America is not soley or even majority due to individual bias. There are other factors such as level of education, poverty, single parent housholds, average IQ, etc. If you dont control for these factors, then you are getting an incomplete picture of the problem, and the results of your study only serve to reinforce your bias. Neither of those studies take into account whether the violence the officers used was justified, so i don't see them as particularly useful in understanding the problem.",
"I doubt I’d feel hopeless ",
"It depends on what you mean by \"ONE RACE: HUMAN.\" If you mean that the goal is that we ignore racial differences and the [social strife caused by increasing racial diversity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_D._Putnam#Diversity_and_trust_within_communities) in the name of this utopian ideal of racial harmony then no, I don't agree that this is the goal.",
"Well, when we see a black woman win an academy award, for example. The speech, media, and social networks will highlight that it was a breakthrough in that it wasn’t done before. I, along with many people, care only about her performance as an actor and if it warranted the win. We don’t perseverate on whether she is right or left handed, or the color of her eyes, either. And having her race and sex be the major thing talked about can be annoying. We literally don’t care. Same thing with people running for office. Same thing with someone being shot by a cop - the neighborhood may be in a predominately black neighborhood, but if it was a dangerous neighborhood of Asians or whites with a high rate of crime - then sure the cops would be on edge in that situation too. I’m not saying racism and prejudice has not, and does not exist - in saying the goal should be to stop highlighting them when it’s not warranted. Even if it is warranted because prejudice was a factor - the less it’s focused on the greater the chance we can move to true equality. The laws are already in place - that has laid the foundation. As far as cultures and what not - sure, celebrate away - sing Its a Small World or whatever. ",
"I am arguing it's a social construct. It's not based on biology or genetics. There is no gene for \"black\" or \"Asian.\"\n\nIt's based on bullshit inconsistent traits that make no logical sense. Some of it is geographic, some of it is skin color. None of it is scientific.\n\nThere's no need to \"fix\" it because it's bullshit to begin with. ",
"Maybe, but dogs and wolves lack intelligence to communicate effectively.",
">Civil rights act was only passed in 1964\n\n25% of the population in America is younger than 54 (the number of years since the Civil Rights Act). Around 2/3 of the population is white, which lets us guess-timate that only 16% of the population was around before the civil rights act. So no, by and large, the vast majority of white people did not have any impact on the time before the civil rights act was passed.\n\n>Apartied ended in SA in 91\n\nWhich has absolutely nothing to do with racism in America. Nice try though.\n\n>the last residential school in Canada didnt close until 96\n\nThis has nothing to do with \"benefiting white people.\"\n\n>Much of European decolonization didnt happen until the 60s\n\nWhich has nothing to do with North America. The only colony the US ever had in the region was Liberia, which has been independent for most of its history, and whom the US has generally supported a great deal.\n\n>but to say that no one alive today directly benefitred from it is disingenuous.\n\nTaking a few outliers to *imply* that white people, in general, have some original sin just for their color of their skin is what I take issue with here. That's the sort of shit that causes people to respond with things like \"Well, statistically <minority group here> does <negative thing> with a higher frequency than white people.\" Which is not a constructive thing to get people to look at.\n\ntl;dr people don't like being painted in broad strokes. Because that is racism when applied to one race.\n",
"Thanks man, and thanks for keeping it civil. I've been really discouraged by the hate that my original comment brought, but fuck it. People like you who will have an actual conversation are the real MVPs",
"14% of human genetic variation depends on your race and ethnicity (7% between the main 3 races, and another 7% between the different ethnicities/geographic ancestries within that race).\n\nYou can break it down to race, and then further break it down within that race. Both are relevant and useful. Forensic anthropologists can look at a skeleton and tell whether that person was white, black, asian, or a mix. It's who you are down to your bones.",
"human isn't a race",
"It’s not solely due to individual bias because it’s *systemic* oppression. The entire policing industry was invented to control black slaves. The article talked about the factor of poverty because yes, the people conducting these studies for a living absolutely know about controls.",
"I e been saying that one thing to anyone and everyone.",
"Not necessarily.\n\nWhat about a black guy adopted by white parents? Does he have a different culture too? A black family in a much more diverse environment? I don't think a black kid who grew up in a diverse area of say New York or Chicago, and went to school with say 70% white kids, 30% black kids, has necessarily a different culture.\n\nAnd many more black people are actually part of the homogenous cultural and ethnic part of America by the day. I don't know if you've met black people who don't speak with a stereotypical black accent (I.e Oh no he di'n't). I have, and I can assure you that they don't have a particularly different culture. And this ethnic group of people who definitely have black skin and facial characteristics, but no stereotypical 'black behaviour' is growing everyday. Thinking 'oh he's black, he must be part of this black culture concept I have if then' is equally ignorant as denying the existence of a distinct ethnic identity. It exists, but that doesn't mean that all [blank] belong to the culture of their race.\n\nSame thing with Latinos (especially the kids of Latinos I.e Hispanics) and Asians. Your race doesn't immediately make you part of a culture. You're just part of the environment in which you grew up. Parents play a role in that, but many black, Latino and Asian parents choose a traditional white education for their children. Is it wrong to ignore your heritage and blend in with the predominant culture? I don't know. I don't think so. You do not choose your own culture, but you choose your children's. And many many people choose not to fit in with stereotypes, instead opting for different options in entertainment, education and cultural activities, and by that point, you might as well be part of whichever culture you're participating in.",
"Well, you sound like a strong person. I like your confidence.",
"That's 99% true\n\n\n\nThe 1% are the people who browse his profile/new commenting on all of his posts and upcoming them so they can get easy comment karma since they know his posts are getting to the front page anyway",
"Which we all agree is bad. \n\nALM didn’t sprout in direct response to the original message of BLM. ",
"Or we can recognize other cultures and their differences and respect them without discriminating against them.",
"They didnt control for poverty if you read closely. He said it might be one of the causes actually. And the entire policing industry was not created to control black slaves. You cant be serious about that.",
">Race and ethnicity are completely different ideas. Race is the perception people have of which group you belong to. Ethnicity is your history. You can be black and be part Jew, part Russian, part Ghanaian. All those ethnicities - that heritage - tells you about someone. For example on the morbid side of things, it can predispose you to certain diseases. Ethnicity can be important depending on the type of work done, like social work or research.\n\nAs I said, the only difference is the injection of culture. Which makes no difference to this conversation. You're still discriminating based on arbitrary factors outside of someone's control.\n\n>So how do you plan to compensate black people for were prevented from getting a mortgage until 1960?\n\nFirstly, that wasn't an \"abuse by the state\" there wasn't a law saying they couldn't lend to black people; there just wasn't a law forcing them to lend to black people. Abuse is active action, you're complaining about passivity.\n\nSecondly, that was over 50 years ago. It has no impact on people right now, unless they're far past retirement age.\n\n\n>Or black people for being raised by someone who didn't have access to higher education?\n\nWhy would/should anyone get compensated for that? Again, that's not an abuse of the state; but the solution most certainly would be. Because the solution to that is legislating that poor people can't breed.\n\n>Do you think that has a monetary value?\n\nNo.\n\n>So you support reparations?\n\nNo. I support individual monetary compensation for individual wrongs. If the state incarcerates you and your innocence is proven, you deserve monetary compensation equivalent to the time, reputation, and earning potential lost. Take it to the court, or shut the fuck up.",
"who is this \"we\" you speak of? Some people are absolutely treated fairly and equally based on race. Others are not. That division does not *solely* lie along racial lines. If you want to hear my side of the story on race and race blindness Id be happy to share, but you are kinda proving my point. The original comment was talking about how uncontroversial the woman's sign was...and they were right... as long as the sign holder wasn't white. (that is kinda tongue in cheek, but the point is you shouldn't judge an argument based on the argument holders demographics) ",
"https://www.vox.com/cards/police-brutality-shootings-us/us-police-racism",
"The one true message so many people need to not just hear but get some for of basic understanding.",
"“But a review of the research by the Sentencing Project concluded that throughout various time periods in the past few decades, the higher crime rates in black communities only explained about 61 to 80 percent of black overrepresentation in prisons. This means that up to 39 percent of the racially disparate rate of imprisonment is attributable to other factors, including, potentially, racial bias or past criminal records influencing a prison sentence.”",
"Hence why I think it matters to state goals like this. Plenty of people criticising it for being redundant, because \"everyone who matters already agrees\" or something. I don't think I agree with \"half the people on earth\", though. Look at voting statistics in Trump's election. Only about 30% or something voted for him? Hitler also didn't get a huge share of the vote when he came to power, he rode a wave of resentment, just like Trump.",
"Almost like astroturfing on Reddit is a thing... ",
">It's not okay to discriminate against a white person because they are discriminated against less than anyone else.\n\nI'm not saying that. I'm saying that those whites are privileged because they experience less discrimination.\n\nIt doesn't mean they are bad people, or that they did something wrong or that they didnt earn what they have -- it means they have a privilege that others don't.",
"http://plsonline.eku.edu/insidelook/brief-history-slavery-and-origins-american-policing",
"Now cross reference that with the black homicide rate. ",
"I think you're missing the overall point of the concept of 'systemic/institutional oppression'... the whole point is that these outcomes of inequality/repression/etc don't always stem from individual intent when it's manifested in socioeconomic systems. It's not because a bunch of people are getting together and conspiring because they want to be racist, or whatever. The whole point is that it's **not** necessarily intentional. The penal system may indeed be filled disproportionately with minorities indeed because those individuals broke the law, but the argument is that many of these laws disproportionately target minorities in the first place, for example.\n\nOn the topic of prisons/the judicial system, if you're interested learning more about how these institutional mechanisms work, I'd check out Ta-Nehisi Coates' [detailed article](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/10/the-black-family-in-the-age-of-mass-incarceration/403246/) about modern US incarceration as an example.",
"Nope, I just think it's clear that you're not interested in any actual debate, and the only reason you want me to comment is so you can throw more personal insults. But your lack of logic speaks for itself. ",
"Okay, why don't you state your goal then? You seem to be content to link a wikipedia article that implies racial diversity is bad, without providing any answers yourself. Go ahead, we're listening.",
"I mean, homosapiens already wiped out every other human race... ",
"'Race' carries a level of baggage and implications that generally makes it less preferable to 'ethnicity', and provides far less information to boot. See: this entire thread where people thinks ethnicity is like breeds of dogs and that humans have taxonomical races.",
"https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/10/13/13252266/police-shootings-race",
">69% upvoted\n\nOof.",
"You asked which systems contain institutional racism and when I gave you the answer of the criminal justice system, the education system (specifically grade and high school), and healthcare, you say none of them are examples of institutional racism. You can disagree with the statistics but the racial biases and disparities in those systems are what people are talking about when they say institutional racism.",
"Lok'tar Ogar",
"In Bright, this would be very racist.",
"As a former student and teacher in a very diverse school I disagree. I've seen cliques that are actually ethnically diverse. It is the background of the parents' that usually determines whether these kids integrate with other races or not.\n\nKids raised by parents who grew up in hermetic environments (parents who grew up in a completely black or white small town or neighborhood) tend to hang out with their own race as well. Kids of people from diverse, large cities, tend to be open to kids from other races.\n\nWhen I was in school, my group consisted of two white kids (German heritage both of them), two Latinos and a black kid. I was one of the Latinos. I never felt out of place or part of a different culture. In fact, I don't think it ever even crossed our minds that we belonged to different ethnic groups, just races. And that was when we were 15 or so and already had a considerable notion of race, social issues and conflict. We were friends because we liked the same things, understood the same jokes and watched the same shows. We used to go to the movies together and watch the same movies, and we made plans at each other's places to play games. Our love for Super Smash was unparalleled. Nowadays we've all moved on with our lives and hang out occasionally, drinking a few beers and whatnot.\n\nWe don't have different cultures at all. We're all stupid young adults trying to find their place in life. ",
"No it wouldn't be:\n> \n> [Race (n)](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/race?s=t)\n> \n> 6.\n> the human race or family; humankind:\n> \n> *Nuclear weapons pose a threat to the race.*\n\nUnless you'd like to change the definition to not include this meaning, the statement is absolutely correct.",
"Hawaiians are U.S. citizens, as are Puerto Ricans. They indeed have their own respective cultural heritage, that by extension, can be considered a facet of U.S. culture. As it is with just about every facet of U.S. culture, which have essentially all been derived from other cultures of origin, whether that be British, Italian, Spanish, Chinese, etc etc",
"> The penal system may indeed be filled disproportionately with minorities indeed because those individuals broke the law, but the argument is that many of these laws disproportionately target minorities in the first place, for example.\n\n\nBoy do you love sidestepping a question. Have you been taking notes from our current President? \n\nProvide some support for your argument. One current real world example of one of these laws that intentionally target black people over white people would be a start. Otherwise, this is just your opinion of how things are, and it means nothing to anyone other than you. ",
"Well looks like I put my foot in my mouth. I always thought intersectionality was about several minority groups that would not be powerful enough alone banding together to stand up against a common source of oppression, which never seemed like a bad thing to me given the history of the divide and conquer tactic.\n\nThe definition you just linked to doesn't seem inherently bad either. I'm not sure why you keep saying it's toxic.",
"I can provide sources once I am near my computer again but:\n* majority white schools receive far more funding than majority black or Latino schools\n* Black people receive much harsher sentences than white people for comparable crimes\n* stereotypically white names get 50% more callbacks than stereotypically black names on identical resumés",
"Then feel free to continue being retarded in response to someone else",
"Wow classic whitesplaining. All muslims are brown, even in Chechnya. Converting to Islam changes you into a brown, by the power of Allah. Like how converting to Hinduism causes you to lose control of your bowels, or becoming Buddhist makes you a gay. Therefore if you criticize Islam that makes you a racist who hates Muslims because they're brown.\n\nI am educated btw I have online doctorates in revisionist history and exposing white people for being the snakes they are",
"Apparently it was supppsed to be Trotter, the shoe-wearing Hobbit. ",
">play in traffic while saying their life matters\n\nLol\n\nAlso their name/message doesn't fucking matter, it's their actions as a group. Sure their core might have good intentions, but if it inspires too many people to do bad things, it's not a good or organized group. It's like if a group saying they stand to end crime once and for all, but just execute anyone for committing any crime as a solution.\n\nEvery bad group tries to pull this, \"oh our code of conduct says we are against that\" but guess what? Your members are still doing it.",
"Blacks have a unique history in this country that deserves consideration. I agree. Basically, the problem as I see it amounts to less generational wealth due to them being second class for so long. I am on board with finding a solution, but it's going to take time for things to even out. Until then, they will have higher rates of crime and drug use and single parent families and all sorts of things suck. Its not the whites of today's fault (most of us feel guilty about the past and want things better for everyone), and while individual bias throughout the justice system is no doubt part of it, what is your plan to fix this? You can't just stop policing those areas or decriminalize petty crime or the people who are trying to build up their communities will be the real victims.",
"The WC2 music is playing in my head now. Thanks for that.",
"Did... Did you just assume their gender?! ",
"Analogies don't generally capture the entire nuance of a situation. When used to elucidate something complex, obviously there will be some meaning lost. It wasn't \"deliberately intended to exaggerate what's going on\", but rather to explain the concept of resources being focused on those who *most* need them *first* through exaggeration. \n \nHowever, while I was trying to be pretty generous to the ALM movement, let me be a little more clear this time: Equating BLM and ALM as both being misunderstood human rights movements is borderline \"both sides\" talk. ALM started as a reaction, and in opposition to BLM. That doesn't mean that there's not an insignificant portion of well-intentioned proponents of ALM, but using \"*all* lives matter\" as a response to \"black lives matter\" shows either ignorance or indifference. It's inherently dismissive. It wouldn't be a problem if it was a completely independent movement, but it's not.",
"Well what determines a culture if not the friends, the background in which you grew up and your identity? We never identified as anything other than citizens of our country. Why did it matter what color our skin was? I don't think I like Salsa better than white kids because I'm Latino. If I'm bound to a culture I know nothing about just because of the color of my skin then why pretend I belong anywhere at all?",
"OK, it's not like people are out there saying they won't hire a furry. They can yiff all they want in private, and openly say they're a furry. The only thing they can't do in public is be lewdly openly sexual --even that they can to an extent.. pretty much the same extent anyone else can. The ridicule is another thing. If there were a cop telling new cops to shoot if the suspect is a furry, then that person shouldn't be a cop, especially if there were a real history where furries actually were getting shot in large numbers.",
"I was already feeling free to do whatever I wanted without your permission.",
"Because it’s used as an excuse to create racially divisive policies that keep everyone in their separate tribes. If we want a free and equal future, we have to stop focusing on the things that divide us. ",
"In regards to your edit, if we're going to be pedantic:\n\n> Never said only individuals can be racist.\n\nYour original comment:\n\n> Individual people are racist, that’s it.\n\nOkay then.",
"The whites of today are absolutely responsible for the myriad of continued ongoing injustices. I have already listed plenty of resources. If you really want change, why the fuck are you playing devil’s advocate here?",
"A list is studies from reputable sources highlighting resource desparity and modern day segregation in public and private schools across America: \n\nhttp://nepc.colorado.edu/topic/school-segregation\n\nNumbers gathered by the fbi used in the 2013 National Survey on Drug Use and Health displaying the lobsidedness in drug related arrest between whites and minorities despite pretty close usage percentages:\n\nhttps://imgur.com/a/vcCy3\n\n[the study](http://archive.samhsa.gov/data/NSDUH/2013SummNatFindDetTables/NationalFindings/NSDUHresults2013.htm#2.7).\n\nSaying you have white priveledge is not an accusation. We aren't rebuking you for something you were born into. It's just a socioeconomic phenomenon that is only propagated by people who refuse to believe it exists despite all the evidence gathered to support that existence.\n\nPlease display any evidence you feel would support the nonexistence of white priveledge, if you can. ",
"Yeah that was dumb. ",
"Context, guy. Would it make you feel better if I edited the comment to say “Currently, individual people are racist, that’s it.” I obviously wasn’t saying that the government has never oppressed black people in the history of the country. (Which, again, is why i sent you that link)\n\nThat should’ve been obvious from the post I was originally responding too. And the context of the entire thread itself. \n",
"Given the negative effects of increasing racial diversity that have been documented in Putnam's studies and others like them, I would advocate for more racially homogeneous societies. This would allow each racial group to pursue their own aims in their own time and would thus truly preserve the diversity of the human race as a whole since the various cultures associated with each race would remain distinct.",
"Irish people weren't kept from owning property and restricted to redlined housing developments or from having access to the GI bill (largely responsible for the upward mobility experienced by white Americans after WW2)",
"Well, he did denounce them. http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/politics/trump-condemns-charlottesville-attackers/index.html Now you tell me why this one doesn't count.\n\nAs if you never saw an article with misleading, overreaching title. By 'context', I meant when and what he said. It looks like to you, that means 'subjective interpretation that I agree with.'",
"Bad human.",
"Exactly. Fuck the giraffes.",
"Firstly, I had no idea that the topic of racism was limited to discussion in the US, but ok, fine.\n\nSecondly, You cut off the 2 most important parts of my comment.\n\n> I agree with your sentiment, but what you said is factually incorrect.\n\nand\n\n>Again, I agree it is racist to say that white people as a group are responsible for these things,\n\nAlso, As a Canadian myself, it is very easy to see why the residential schools are eurocentric, pro *white people* institutions. By an large, the population of Canada was White English/Quebecois. These institutional schools culturally assimilated the native peoples. As anyone who has studied any history should know, it is far easier for a parent state to control a specific people group if they have been assimilated into the parent culture. There are examples everywhere. I recommend you look more into these schools yourself.\n\nAnd again, I **NEVER** said that white people, as a whole are the root of all evil. Globally and historically, almost all societies have functioned in a way that benefits the ruling ethnicity of the state. I could find examples of non-white people who have taken advantage of minorities (white or otherwise) in the same way that white people have in our societies. The point that I am trying to make, is that we should not distance ourselves from the mistakes our current societies have made. This is not ancient history, this is within a century.",
"Yeah sorry but this is such a common alt right wet dream that I'm gonna call BS from the get-go",
"But that is just a ridiculous argument because there are plenty of white people who have never had the \"privilege\" that you speak of. Are there some? Sure. Are there a lot? Sure. But that does not mean every white person is privileged. \"Privilege\" has become a concept that has fallen on a group of people who have never experienced it. You are telling me right now that I'm privileged because I never experienced something. When I tell you I have experienced it you pretend like it's okay because other white people haven't. This whole discussion is idiocy. Discrimination is bad. Period. Don't try to justify discrimination against one group because others have it worse.",
"Fact.",
">and black woman would be an assumption\n\nIf you're going to go that route, you might as well go all the way and not assume they're a woman, either. \n\nThey're \"a femme-presenting person of color.\"",
"Maybe saying that the laws themselves targets minorities disproportionately is a bit of a rhetorical illustration, but there is certainly evidence in how the laws are enforced or how sentences are levied. There were a number of reports on this within the last 10 years, including a [Human Rights Watch Report](https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/related_material/8%20Fellner_FINAL.pdf), and analyses of stop-and-frisk implementation in [New York](http://amstat.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1198/016214506000001040).\n\nVoting disenfranchisement on the formerly-incarcerated is another example of laws that can disproportionately affect minorities:\n\nhttp://www.sentencingproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Felony-Disenfranchisement-Primer.pdf",
"Yeah i edited it right after commenting",
"Very few people actually want to focus on these issues and are trying to divide people. Most people just wish it wasn't an issue to begin with. But the problem is, the person getting the good side of the deal can always ignore it and go on their merry way. It's the side getting shafted that gets affected, so no matter how much they would love to stop thinking about it, it keeps popping up in their lives. Huge swaths of people don't generally just complain about nothing. They might not be complaining about the right thing, but if there's thousands of people on the street pissed, there's probably at least some substance in there somewhere. ",
">> Not by biologists.\n>\n>Wrong\n>\n\n\nRace does not exist as a classification in ANY internationally used system of nomenclature or taxonomy. If biologists are using the term, they're using it in error.\n\n>> when they decided the term subspecies was more accurate.\n>\n>Ok... so we should use the term \"subspecies?\"\n>\n\nIf you're talking about biology, sure. But most people in this thread are discussing race as a social construct, not as a misnomer for a biological classification. If you're talking about types of mushrooms, feel free to refer to sub species. But \"black\" and \"white\" people are not subspecies. ",
"Correct. Human is the species and Homosapien is the race. Human races don't exist because we've already killed all the others off. ",
"Yeah, the nuke jokes have really been run down recently.",
"There's only one accomplishment: the *human* accomplishment.",
"> I never suggested anyone put a handicap on themselves, nor blaming anyone for being poor or lazy.\n\nThen black people should stop screaming out racism and white privileges.\n\nWe all have the same chances now. It’s stupid to discuss this matter any further.",
"Bald is beautiful brother. Unless, of course, you have a lumpy head or something. If that's the case, I am very sorry.",
"Aim directly at his crooked brow",
"No one besides a very **vocal minority** says the first thing unless your idea of \"seeing race\" is \"blacks get lower IQ scores because they're scientifically stupid\"",
">orensic anthropologists can look at a skeleton and tell whether that person was white, black, asian, or a mix. It's who you are down to your bones.\n\nIf you actually talked to any of them, they'd say that this is unreliable and merely a guess. ",
"31% downvoted this.\nWhat the hell is wrong with you. Do you think you're part of a separate race? Do you think it's better than the \"other human races\".\nFuck off idiots, you're just as dumb as every dumb person on the planet, no matter where they come from. ",
">Orthancs Obama\n\nI’m dead",
"> Given the negative effects of increasing racial diversity that have been documented in Putnam's studies and others like them, I would advocate for more racially homogeneous societies. This would allow each racial group to pursue their own aims in their own time and would thus truly preserve the diversity of the human race as a whole since the various cultures associated with each race would remain distinct.\n\nOrly? Explain how you would achieve this without horrifically oppressive methods. How would you deal with the interracial families that already exist?",
"You didn't read his comment properly, did you? He's talking about advantages that came as a result of previous decisions based on racism. \n\nIf the white kid is truly more diligent while other factors are similar, of course he is more deserving of his success. But when it comes to real life, most factors are not similar. A white kid may have had better access to resources that helped him develop better simply because of his grandparents getting ahead through racism. This is a fact. \n\nHowever, I don't agree with those that are calling the white kid racist simply because he is privileged. He is racist only if he does not accept this fact and believe that other races are generally less successful simply because of laziness. ",
"Dere's humies ta kill, boyz! Grab ya shootas! (Two kinds of orcs, I suppose:P)",
"Yes, the Jews in Germany should have just stopped caring about race. That would have solved racism.\n\nBlack people in America managed to achieve equality by pretending that being black didn't exist. They ceased to see their fellow black people being arrested for sitting at whites only counters as an issue, and eventually JFK agreed and made it law that race doesn't exist. ",
"Most of the world pretty much has...",
"Humans first is probably OK until we find something non-human that we can communicate with. Hell, we can talk to a few other apes and it's still probably ok :P",
"* Schools are funded by local property taxes. \n* in federal prison, (not that I doubt state are much different) the average longer sentence is 1.2 years when accounting for other factors, an issue to address but not institutional as it is not the actual policy,it is however widespread individual bias, the answer to that is to identify judges who are engaging in such practices.\n* that is from a 15 year old study that has not been replicated. The findings of that study also concluded that resumes with addresses in good areas got a 30% increase callbacks compared to poorer areas accounting for the name on the resume. Again, assuming the study is mostly accurate, that would again be a case of individual bias as opposed to institutional racism. I would personally like to see a new version of that study to see how the findings may or may not have changed.",
"Pretty much. Not sure why borders and skin color mean anything anymore. We should be working together as a singular force but instead we have a bunch of billionaires pitting us against each other so they can max out their profits and we are all too stupid/lazy to do anything about it. Fucking sucks. ",
"Not playing devils advocate. I just think the issue is more complicated than than it appears on the surface and the solution definitely needs to be more nuanced than blame whitey. Your attitude is straight up racist.",
"> Now you tell me why this one doesn't count.\n\nIt doesn't count because it took him too long to do it, and he was clearly only saying so because he was being pressured to. It was like he was reading an apology in front of class because the teacher made him do it. Can you tell me why he didn't denounce them in his first statement? Why was he silent about it on twitter? It's not like it's difficult to get him to speak his mind when he actually wants to.\n\nNow why don't you respond to this part of my comment:\n\n> No, no, he just called the people who were marching alongside Neo Nazis and white nationalists \"very fine people\". And yes, he failed to denounce those groups, which in context is essentially an endorsement. They fucking loved his response.",
"Man, black people were slaves. It’s obvious that they would have lower chances of getting anywhere, but as time goes on, the gap between them is shrinking.\n\nFrom my point of view, anyway.\n\n> He's talking about advantages that came as a result of previous decisions based on racism\n\nAnd why is it the responsibility falls to the grandchild instead of his grandfather’s boss?",
"Well it's either the \"we are all human\" mind set, like the woman pictured above, or it's \"see my color, learn my culture, and accept more or less privilege based on your skin color, so that you can then treat me as your equal, someday.\"\n\nWhich one of those choices makes more sense to you?",
"Then they are using the term incorrectly or engaging in concept creep, which is academically dishonest. The examples givin have been individual bias if at all. Local schools are funded locally so poverty is the main issue with funding. I’m not denying that AA’s in particular don’t face additional challenges to prosperity, but I am saying that racism is one of many components of that. ",
"That is your pure conjecture, and even if it is true, I don't fucking care what crazies think.",
"How can we get to that point though? When evryone is too busy arguing amongst thmselves.\n",
"Bigot.",
"No it's not, it's called - say it with me now - *context*.\n\nThat's not to mention pardoning Joe Arpaio, and a bunch of other shit. Like when the KKK endorses you and you say nothing about it, that's not literally saying nothing. If you don't reject that endorsement you are implicitly saying you have no problem with it. Tell me why you *wouldn't* reject it. Jesus, you're just ignoring context and twisting the words, just like I said.",
"AKA subjective interpretation I agree with.\n\nNice talking to you.",
"Unfortunately this is an outdated theory. Human is our species, homosapien is our race. Due to interbreeding with other races such as Neanderthal and Denisovan there are ~~significant~~ measurable differences within sapien populations. \nObviously none of that implies one or the other is superior. It definitly has no bearing on wheather we treat everyone with respect and dignity. \n\nI think there is pretty much consensus that any studies into genetic differences of that nature will do more harm than good. It's one of the few times that the majority of scientists agree we'd probably preffer not to know the truth for now.\n\nEdit: I'm probably being downvoted because the reality makes some people uncomfortable. Just in case; *Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind* by Yuval Noah Harari is one source but it's been extensively discussed in academic and philosophical circles. ",
"g8 b8 m8",
"Probably because it's counterproductive and just feels good instead of actually doing good",
"Beating up racists and putting them in jail helps a little",
"One true race: Piston Cup",
"Cocker Spaniels and German Shepherds are the same species.\n\nDifferent breeds though. We use \"race\" instead of \"breed\" when referring to people.",
"I (incorrectly) assumed we were only talking about the US because the picture’s context is that it’s in America",
"It's only safe because it's held by a black woman. \n\nTry holding a similar sign that says \"All lives matter\" as a non-black male and see [the results](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL8f5iWrzN0). ",
"The sign is only okay when held by a black person.",
"A ham. AND THE WATER'S BOILING!\n\nHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM",
"Genetic erasing. Make everyone the same race. ",
"reason blacks get heart disease at much higher rates or jews with brain cancers. Just a social construct dude! /s",
"There was actually a \"social experiment\" done on holding a sign that say \"All Lives Matter\" by a white guy. Results were not good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL8f5iWrzN0",
"That's actually true scientificly. Human (Homosapian) is the race... With a few different species of said race. Simplisticly speaking different species of a race are define by the combination of skintone and skeletal structure. You can use Dolphins as a good example. Dolphin (Porpoise) is the race. Bottlenose and Hourglass are species (with more scientific names of course).",
"Because everyone on reddit is a Marxist when it comes to race (\"It's class not race!\") until it comes time to actually eat the rich",
"I never once said responsibility. I'm only reiterating what the other commenter said that you seem to have missed in your previous comment. \n\nI am also pointing how someone can be racist by having given advantages due to racism, but refuse to acknowledge that and only attribute their race's success due to racial differences. \n\nI also don't believe they are responsible for anything their ancestors did other than acknowledging it. ",
"To be fair, it's always been trendy to hate people who are better.\n\n",
"Let me show you my 'context.'\n\nResponding to every or any crazy things KKK or whatever fucks say will only legitimize them further. It's best to ignore, and upon request, he made his position clear that he isn't on their side. How did other presidents react to such matter? Did they condemn every action or statement by... let's say, Westboro Baptist Church?",
"> I am also pointing how someone can be racist by having given advantages due to racism, but refuse to acknowledge that and only attribute their race's success due to racial differences. \n\nI agree. That’s called having an inflated ego for your own race. Their arrogance blinds him.",
"For starters, I would advocate for an immigration policy that protects the native population of each nation from demographic displacement. ~~Countries like Japan are~~ Pretty much every nation outside the west is already quite good at this hence their overwhelming racial homogeneity. Developed Western nations, on the other hand, suffer from a lack of this type of immigration policy.\n\nThe problem is compounded by the fact that natives of these western nations do not feel supported by their own governments who seem more concerned with helping immigrant populations not only immigrate but to do so without any encouragement towards assimilation. This to me seems to be one of the main causes of the declining birth rate among native populations in western countries. People do not want to raise kids in a country governed by elites who do not have their best interest in mind. If the governments of western nations began to legislate in a way that benefited the native population then I think we would see an increase in the birth rate of the native population and thus a reversal of their demographic displacement over time.\n\nI don't think any of this could be categorized as \"oppressive.\" I'm simply asking for our governments to govern in a way that benefits the native population of each nation. Isn't that the point of governance anyway?\n\nI'm not sure what you mean by \"deal with\" interracial families. I'm not arguing that there shouldn't be some racial heterogeneity in society and that people shouldn't marry across racial lines. I'm arguing that our societies would be better off if they were more racially homogeneous than they are now (in the West).",
"Kind of pointless.",
"The concept of 'white privilege' is not suggesting that *every* *single* *white* *person* faces less hardship than a minority, at all. More broadly, think of it as being a sort of predictor...i.e. all else being equal, in the US a white male is less *likely* to encounter the prejudices or discrimination that other groups will, but it certainly doesn't mean they're immune to it.",
"White people need to be held accountable.",
"Video games did this years ago, but when i play them im just goin to become a violent misogynistic sociopathic murderer",
"Yeah I mean you can read it in an encyclopedia. There's no hidden agenda behind the history of dog breeding, so most sources will give you more or less the same info. It's common knowledge that dog breeds didn't occur naturally. Anyway, peace. ",
"I suppose. It just seems really weird to me. When I was 7 my biggest interests were lego and playstation. Myself and most of my friends at the time didn't even discover what this mysterious word 'sex' meant until we were like 11.",
"Lol, all the ones you should be angry at are dead or really old. Grow up.",
" There are many different races of people. I guess it's too difficult for some to acknowledge them individually while respecting them equally...so let's just pretend races don't exist? This seems delusional.\n",
"The method by which funds are raised is irrelevant. Regardless of where the money comes from, there is a large disparity in a system that is supposed to be equitable for everyone. That seems like a problem to me",
"\"I don't follow\"\n\nShocker /s",
"TEAM PEOPLE!",
"You got google to check your feelings\n\n\"Urban riots must now be recognized as durable social phenomena. They may be deplored, but they are there and should be understood. Urban riots are a special form of violence. They are not insurrections. The rioters are not seeking to seize territory or to attain control of institutions. They are mainly intended to shock the white community. They are a distorted form of social protest. The looting which is their principal feature serves many functions. It enables the most enraged and deprived Negro to take hold of consumer goods with the ease the white man does by using his purse. Often the Negro does not even want what he takes; he wants the experience of taking. But most of all, alienated from society and knowing that this society cherishes property above people, he is shocking it by abusing property rights. There are thus elements of emotional catharsis in the violent act. This may explain why most cities in which riots have occurred have not had a repetition, even though the causative conditions remain. It is also noteworthy that the amount of physical harm done to white people other than police is infinitesimal and in Detroit whites and Negroes looted in unity.\n\nA profound judgment of today’s riots was expressed by Victor Hugo a century ago. He said, ‘If a soul is left in the darkness, sins will be committed. The guilty one is not he who commits the sin, but he who causes the darkness.’\n\nThe policymakers of the white society have caused the darkness; they create discrimination; they structured slums; and they perpetuate unemployment, ignorance and poverty. It is incontestable and deplorable that Negroes have committed crimes; but they are derivative crimes. They are born of the greater crimes of the white society. When we ask Negroes to abide by the law, let us also demand that the white man abide by law in the ghettos. Day-in and day-out he violates welfare laws to deprive the poor of their meager allotments; he flagrantly violates building codes and regulations; his police make a mockery of law; and he violates laws on equal employment and education and the provisions for civic services. The slums are the handiwork of a vicious system of the white society; Negroes live in them but do not make them any more than a prisoner makes a prison. Let us say boldly that if the violations of law by the white man in the slums over the years were calculated and compared with the law-breaking of a few days of riots, the hardened criminal would be the white man. These are often difficult things to say but I have come to see more and more that it is necessary to utter the truth in order to deal with the great problems that we face in our society.\"\n\n-Martin Luther King Jr.",
"Fuck yeah",
"People are using \"white privilege\" as an excuse to discriminate against white people.",
"Your line of arguing is damaging and I’m pretty sure it’s on purpose",
"We were talking about straight privilege and you switched topics to white privilege. White privilege is different than straight privilege. So let me just finish what I was saying about straight privilege -- it *is* something that every straight person had. Every straight person prior 2013 could apply to work for the military and wouldn't be excluded because of their sexuality. That's a privilege.\n\nWhite privilege, however, hasn't been codified in law for a long time. But that doesn't mean we can't talk about privileges that whites routinely receive in society. For example, the fact that job applicants with white names are more likely to receive responses than equally qualified applicants with black names. Or the simple idea that bandaids in 'flesh color' match white skin tones. \n\nSome kinds of privilege are probablistic, others are absolute. So when I say that someone has white privilege, maybe they haven't gotten all or any of the probablistic privileges -- they had a better chance to be born to a wealthy family, for example, but maybe they happened to be born poor. But some of the privileges don't depend on probability -- the band aid one, for example.\n\nSo when I say that someone has white privilege, I don't mean that they have every privilege, or most privileges, or have never experienced discrimination, or have it easier than others without privilege, or any of that. I'm saying that they benefit from their skin color in ways that others do not, whether they want to or not.",
"He spams corny lowbrow content",
"no, seriously, either there's something I'm missing or they're confusing me with the original poster in this thread",
"> If biologists are using the term, they're using it in error.\n\nlol, according to who? You?\n\n> not as a misnomer for a biological classification\n\nRace is biological classification.\n\n> \"black\" and \"white\" people are not subspecies.\n\nSub-saharan African and European are, though. And that's what \"black\" and \"white\" means.",
"I think you'd benefit from some documentaries/books that go into, if you're interested in learning. \n\n\nOne--you are incredibly hostile, so this already feels like something of a waste of time. \n\nBut anyway, when understanding privilege,'it's important to examine the historical events and legislation/policy leading to where we are now. The high crime rates you see in improverished black communities does not exist in a vacuum. Black people didn't suddenly lose their collective mind, coast to coast, and become degenerates. \n\n\nIt's a matter of looking at the drug war. Black people were kept from owning property and forced to live in redlined ghettos while the rest of the country benefited from FDR's New Deal. There was no work to be found in these areas. White businesses fled (see white flight). Black communities became riddled with addiction and crime as a result. This isn't unique to them. We have seen this happen across races, eras, and different cultures/races. Despite fighting in WW2, black men could not benefit from the GI Bill or move out to the suburbs like white people were doing. The GI Bill was instrumental in the upward mobility we saw after the war. Then you can look at the Iran Contra Affairs and see that highly addictive crack cousins wad allowed to enter these vulnerable communities. Nixon insisted the drug war, and Reagan sentenced crack cocaine offenses 10:1 against its pure counterpart. White people heavily used cocaine but didn't face the same consequences that poor blacks faced from using crack. Minimum mandatory sentencing and black neighborhoods being heavily policed (instead of maybe people receiving help for their addictions) saw that families were slowly torn apart across generations. \n\n\nSo he we are. If you don't think history has a huge part to play in this, you're being willfully ignorant. Black Americans have lived a very different history than whites, so understand the concept of privilege is bigger than an individuals financial circumstance. ",
"Yeah, great argument. Were those people endorsed by fringe hate groups? No? Gee, I wonder why Trump was...\n\nYou can bet your left nut if they were, they would come out against it.\n\nNow tell me your position on his pardon of Joe Arpaio.",
"Not sure i catch your drift, but I'm sick of this back and forth anyways. We both want the same things, and you seem like a very intelligent person who cares deeply about these issues, and I respect that. Its better we don't get caught up in the weeds. Thanks for the discussion. If more people would talk instead of ad hominem or other tactics, the world would be a much more understanding place.",
"Fixed the typo",
"> I'm saying biologically the information serves no purpose.\n\nNo relevance to whether or not it's true.\n\n> It's an arbitrary classification of humans. \n\nIt's not arbitrary. It's based on physical characteristics. lol\n\n> Might as well classify all humans by ear lobe size and number of taste buds on their tongue and call that a race.\n\nNo.\n\nRace is related to *ancestry*. Black people have more common ancestry than white people. Why is this so hard for you to understand?\n\nDo you think it's a coincidence that these people have all these similarities? It has to do with common ancestry. That's why they're classified that way. Were you not even aware of that?",
"Yeah, I'm not the guy you were talking to. ",
"Maybe you should quote the rest then, dipshit",
"Lol you were the one to bring in ad hominem attacks. Thank me all you want. You still sound pretty fucking racist to me. And that’s an observation",
"Aw you cared enough to reply! <3",
"So do you. ",
"I already told you I don't fucking care what crazies think, I don't form my opinion based on what they say. What do you do instead? Do whatever the opposite to what they say?\n\nWho is Joe Arpaio, what did he do to get convicted and why did Trump pardon him?",
"You said I raged quit, so I gave you the argument you were asking for.\n\nI don't give a fuck who you are, lol",
"It's been going great, I can easily search porn by race.",
"Why are you retarded?",
"Says the guy who will throw a temper tantrum if they see a Breitbart link",
"Holding white people accountable is not racist. It’s called human decency.",
"What are the different traits that we need to recognize?",
"> natives of these western nations do not feel supported by their own governments who seem more concerned with helping immigrant populations not only immigrate but to do so without any encouragement towards assimilation\n\nAre you talking about Native Americans? Aboriginal Australians? Inuits? Maoris? Anglo-Saxon Brits? And at any rate, you don't speak for the entirety of those groups, so don't pretend that you do.\n\nAlso, birth rates are declining throughout the world. It's correlated with increased quality of life and increased life expectancy. It seems people of the human race are naturally policing our own overpopulation problems from the ground-up.\n\n> I don't think any of this could be categorized as \"oppressive.\"\n\nThat's because you're not proposing policy, you're just making a bunch of ideological statements that are basically outright explicit racism. There's not much discussion to happen here, I think your statements speak for themselves.\n\nAnd the policy that you have proposed, is in fact oppressive. Just saying, \"You can't come in, because you're not one of 'us', based on your race,\" that's bullshit, it's going to hurt a lot of people.",
"What a bigot, really specie-ist.",
"Human isn't a race. ",
"You sound like a person who deeply resents white people. What are we supposed to do? We were born into this mess the same as you. Just remember that. If you want real change, people need to come together. ",
"> Not true. America has always been an overwhelmingly English-speaking country.\n\nAt the time the U.S. declared independence, [Pennyslvania was 40% German speaking.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4092008/#R1) 25% of the population of the colonies were non-English immigrants. So America has a long history of being multilingual. \n\n>No, it just proves that one man, Steve King, means race when he says culture.\n\nHe's one of 100 Senators. But sure, just one guy. How many do you want?",
"/r/fisting",
"You just can't help but justify discrimination.",
"gd",
"You sound like a person who is willfully ignorant of the ways white people continue to hurt people of color and the many ways people are addressing that. I already linked five articles with lists on what you can do in this thread in my other comments. Quit with your pain avoidance. You are contributing to the problem.\n\nThe “let’s unify and have a *civil* discussion” circle jerk disgusts me and is clearly about self righteousness and assuaging your guilt",
"Love it. She is right. ",
"Nobody said you should care, that's totally irrelevant, and keep your strawmen to yourself.\n\nWhat is relevant to what we were talking about is that when hate groups do bad shit or align themselves with politicians, those politicians typically denounce said hate groups. Trump's lack of denouncement was conspicuous because any other politician would have jumped on denouncing them. His statement, \"They have been condemned,\" was in response to a question about whether he had condemned them strongly enough. That question was asked because he had slipped some equivocation into his denouncement, basically betraying that he didn't believe it. This is basic, obvious stuff, but somehow it's escaped your attention. How?\n\nAnd if you know this much about Trump's Charlottesville comments, how do you not know about Joe Arpaio? Seriously, google it.",
"Cool",
"Where did I justify discrimination?",
"As an asian, I'm sad there's no yellow",
"Gold supremacist.",
"> Are you talking about Native Americans? Aboriginal Australians? Inuits? Maoris? Anglo-Saxon Brits?\n\nNo, I'm talking about the descendants of the colonists who conquered those groups.\n\n> And at any rate, you don't speak for the entirety of those groups, so don't pretend that you do.\n\nI never claimed to speak for the entirety of any group although I do think that the election of Trump in the US and even the UK's exit from the EU are indicative of the fact that there are a great many people in western countries who are displeased with their government's open borders immigration policy.\n\n> That's because you're not proposing policy, you're just making a bunch of ideological statements that are basically outright explicit racism. \n\nExplain to me how pointing out that increased racial diversity increases social strife is racist. This is a well-documented phenomenon. In the same way, is Japan racist having an immigration policy that maintains the nation's racial homogeneity?\n\n> And the policy that you have proposed, is in fact oppressive. Just saying, \"You can't come in, because you're not one of 'us', based on your race,\" that's bullshit, it's going to hurt a lot of people.\n\nHow, exactly?\n",
"Absolutely right! You go girl! You made my day :)",
"Turn away from the kiln and you're set, friendo",
"I agree. We should all unite so we can go purge filthy xeno scum instead.",
"Except liberals don’t believe that which is why liberals constantly racialize politics.",
"Hee hee hee! that tickles",
">No, I'm talking about the descendants of the colonists who conquered those groups.\n\nOh, so white people then? Wait, what about the black slaves they brought with them to the US? Are you happy to include them in your \"native population\"?\n\n>I never claimed to speak for the entirety of any group\n\nI literally quoted you doing so at the top of my last comment. I'm not going to keep talking to you if you don't address this. When someone claims to know another person's mind, they're full of shit.",
"Humans don't fit into categories like that, you can't derive any useful information from races. Humans don't exist in complete isolation, so denying the usefulness of race, and accepting evolution are not contradictions.\n\nI feel like you're saying that science uses race, but you don't understand what that means. Science doesn't use the biological concept of race because it's a useless classification, however various fields still use the social concept of race to denote certain groups in society. In medicine it can also be used to denote people from certain geographic areas where various single gene disorders are more common, but the existence of an entirely different race based on a single gene hardly seems justified. As an example the population of all of Africa is grouped under a single black race, but that population is the most genetically diverse population that exists.",
"Your ideology is noble, but I'm sure on some level you can see that it has blinded you. Like I said before, the data in those articles paints a very incomplete picture of the causes for the disparity. I don't deny that the disparity exists and that bias plays a part, but those stats don't answer the question of if the force was justified or not even so it's really hard to tell to what extent bias is the problem. Your other article you quoted gives the opposite impression to me that you probably intended. The higher crime rate in black neighborhoods contributes up to 80 percent of the disparity in incarceration rates. The rest of the disparity, according to that article, is attributed \"to other factors, including, potentially, racial bias or past criminal records influencing a prison sentence.\" Funny how the author lumps racial bias and past criminal records influencing a prison sentence together. He frames it like the higher crime rate doesn't explain the higher rate of imprisonment even though his own statistics say that it mostly does. Even the extent which bias does play a part is super unclear as its lumped together with prior convictions. \n",
"Yes me lord",
"White men interpreting the partial suspension of extrajudicial death sentences for any brown person saying unflattering things about white men as \"hate\" is why we can't have nice things.",
"AND LOOK HIM STRAIGHT IN THE EYYYEEE",
"Yeah most people understand that already. The real issue is being concerned about facts about certain races or culture doesn't make one a racist.",
"Yes it did. It was always used to discredit the BLM movement by trying to make it sound like BLM meant white lives didn't matter. It was always racist dog whistling. Otherwise people who said ALM would still be marching with BLM people because they would be in agreement. BLM doesn't in any way mean other lives don't, and saying All lives matter in response is just Stoopid. The whole thing was about how black lives don't seem to matter so much when a black kid is murdered by a cop who gets away with it. Michael che has a good bit about the BLM vs ALM thing. It'd be like if your wife asked if you loved her and you said \"baaaaby, I love everybody! You're no different!\" instead of just saying \"yes\". Your wife would be fucking furious if you said that shit lol. ",
"> The concept of \"race\" is still very prominent in the sciences. What makes you think it isn't?\n\nAnyone who has taken a 101 biology class.",
"I understand perfectly well. It's you who apparently doesn't. I don't dispute that it's possible to classify humans by their outer appearance and retrace those characteristics to certain shared genes and I do understand that race is related to ancestry. The only argument I've been making (and which you've been completely ignoring) is that there is literally no point to classifying humans that way. All humans are so close genetically that a caucasian American can have more genetically in common with a person from China than with another caucasian American. The amount of genes responsible for what we perceive as differences between race is absolutely miniscule compared to the tens of thousands that do not. Please explain to me the added value of classifying people by their genes that code for their amount of melanin, or how frizzy their hair is or how long or flat their noses are, rather than singling out the people whose genetics code for longer total length of their bowels or the amount of mechanoreceptors in their tendons and call that a race or whatever word. There is none, especially not biologically. Race is a useless concept and it has bred nothing but division and hatred among humans for no logical reason. We're all one. That's the message of the sign and it's the correct message.",
"More like crapophile! ",
"stupid bitch doesn't even know whats up.... shes an Israelite, the 1 people in the world over everyone else.... smb",
"Yes indeed not to mention the Trolls the Elves and the Dwarves.",
"The other point should be that people of different races *do* tend to be different; but that difference is circumstantial, rooted in history and to some extent culture rather than biology. Ignoring the systematic oppression of a class of people over several centuries in the not so recent past for the sake of \"true racial equality\" will ensure that this goal is never reached.",
"Recognize that it exists and act appropriately to ensure that it is not a problem. What this actually means is intentionally vague, since it should be interpreted situationally.",
"So give me a specific example of a situation where it would effect other people’s lives and what I can do about it? ",
"I've had a kid come at me with a knife yelling, \"Hey you white motherfucker.\" It wasn't racism. Even the kid's friends knew it was a terrible idea on his part, and got him out of there. Someone being rude to you one day 15 years ago does not compare to people dealing with it anywhere from several times a year to several times a day, while also having to accept that their race is going to be a factor in just about every first impression they make on anyone ever. Chances are your anecdote was the first and last time you had to think about your race actually influencing an interaction with anyone, and it was an extremely low stakes interaction. Racism cannot happen to just anyone. ",
"It's only white people that think everything is racist.",
"The people of Oolacile might have something to say about that.",
"Worst race ever",
"I think liberals see race as a social construct, which it largely is. And that's really what this sign means. When discussing race, they're really talking about the effect of that construct.",
"I'm a white guy. I've tried to be color blind my entire life. It doesn't stop people from accusing me of being racist.\n\nI'll fucking believe this shit when people stop using me as an easy target.",
"Here is an extreme hypothetical in the vein of affirmative action.\n\nSay you belong to a privileged group of people defined by a property which is passed down exclusively, and reliably, through genetics. Historically, only people in this group have been allowed to learn mathematics in schools. Recently this restriction was lifted. However, even though it is well known to people in the privileged group that formal education in mathematics strongly predicts socioeconomic prosperity, math classes in school are populated by over 99.9% people from the privileged group. \n\nNow it should be clear that to some extent, the systematic oppression of the non-privileged group is responsible for this scenario and that some effort should be made to increase formal math education among the non-privileged group, because available data tells you that this will improve quality of life for them on average. \n\nIf this idea is clear to you, then you should understand in general why you, in the real world, might support some form of affirmative action legislature.",
"!redditooer",
"Who cares, they're dead. I'm in it for me and my good end.",
"> Good end\n\nHa. Haha.\n\nMy point is that everything will end up like Oolacile eventually, letting the Flame die out just speeds up the process.",
"But it's not politically correct to say all lives matter ",
"I'm not Canadian. I just married one.",
"generational poverty can only be eradicated through education. Why would I be opposed to the current admissions guidelines for public schools. White Americans were the ones who passed affirmative action in the first place. That has nothing to do with MY nonexistent privilege. ",
"No, not truly. We can identify some traits that may be more common but it's not pointing to an actual race. You can have someone who is completely white by cultural standards, hundreds of years of heritage, no known family history of outside elements, etc., have genetics from south Africa. Second we don't even have solid definitions of races, culturally, and they've varied a great deal over time and culture. E.g. The Irish were viewed as a separate and distinct race from Brits. Our current cultural ideas about race originate in the 18th century, and were from the beginning based on pseudoscience. Many populations are nearly identical genetically despite being different culturally, and vice versa in a group that identifies as one, you can have a massive amount of variation. There's a lot of misconceptions, and the genetics in particular can get quite complicated but I linked a bunch of articles to my original comment you looked at, and if you start googling you can find plenty more. The tl;dr of genetics though, is we are absolutely all one race, and genetics not only no support our ideas about race but directly contradicts them. Also Hispanic/Latino is different from other groups, in that you could be 100% Chinese, 100% African, 100% European, 100% indigenous American, or any combination there of and still be Latino, it just refers to people of/from Latin?Hispanic America (which the definitions vary slightly and may or may not include Spain/Portugal, etc...). And the reason I mention this is the way Latinos are viewed is really the perfect way to understand our cultural view. Even though here in the U.S. latino is often treated in the same way we view race, the view of race within Latino cultures is much different. And ultimately the idea of Latinos is essentially reflective of North America being Anglo/Germanic/Northern European. In other words everyone views shit from the perspective of the groups they belong to, and the view exists along several levels, and it's ultimately all some bullshit and we're the same, with but a superficial layer of cultural bullshit. ",
"You’re brainwashed ",
">Duder\n\nDid... Did you just assume my gender?! ",
"I don't know who you are or what your point is. Do you see my point or not?",
"#OMNICS STAY UNDERGROUND!!!!",
"Or people can learn to be less shitty. Which as a society we are, slowly.",
"TIL blocking traffic is an extremist behavior like murdering cops.",
"Maybe because it was obvious to everyone not carrying around a load of racial resentment?",
"I mentioned disparities in a 2nd post. They are more for public health and large scale issues, and less for the patient-doctor setting. When a doctor sees a patient, they should always evaluate them as an individual with their own unique circumstances, and not bring in outside assumptions. \n\nIn my experience, knowing race has not helped with ruling in or out a differential diagnosis. It doesn't make or break decisions to go down any particular path of investigation. I have asked other doctors I've worked with, and they report similar experiences. \n\nAFTER the diagnosis has been made, there are some treatments that change based on race. However, I consider this as a poor man's pharmacogenetics. In the future, it may be possible to predict best treatment choices by examining a patient's DNA. Lumping people into geographic groups and then performing studies is a crude way of doing this. ",
"Shitty in what way?\n\nEven if we teach people to not be bigoted, people will still have preference to which race they find more attractive, which they relate to more, which they wanna be friends with over others, etc... ",
"He's a racist ",
"This is so true. We can reproduce together, donate blood and organs to each other - we look very alike under the microscope.",
"Shitty in not those ways.",
"The ways I mentioned is still racism, and you can't get rid of it. ",
"Bret Weinstein is a leftist-libertarian biologist who explicitly argues that genes are biased in favor of their in-group phenotype and that it takes a disciplined mind to overcome those preferences. Not sure if it comes up here but this is his most recent [interview with Sam Harris](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20ku1H4VzfQ). ",
"True statement",
"According to your definition maybe, but I don't think most people would consider those as being examples of racism.\n\nI know that, as a white guy, I relate to other white people more mostly because of cultural differences. Black people that were raised around mostly whites are much easier for me to relate to and be friends with.",
"I think we need to acknowledge different races, just that we should treat all of them equally, not acknowledging them would just make everyone stupid",
"Nyesss and totally not a Zognoid! Hello fellow Hue Man!!!",
"Racism is just feeling that one race is better than the other, and if you think white people make better friends than black people, then yes it's racist. Even if it's justifiable racism. ",
"Only if it comes from someone ill. Ever heard of fecal transplant ?",
"No we’re a species",
"So everybody who's not white is the same as everyone who shares their color? Only white people can be unique individuals? If we are both white, I'm sure I share close to nothing with you.",
"I think \"Oh, we didn't know life existed outside of our own planet\" is a pretty good excuse.",
"It did. And it caused all the confusion that we have now. ",
">Genetically speaking we're one species with no subdivisions known as \"races\".\n\nExcept thete are.",
"Is bringing up lactose intolerance and drug addiction to support the existence of race, or the use of race identification in working up a differential diagnosis in the hospital? \n\nI don't think having the deficiency or lack of one or two enzymes is enough to create a whole subunit of humans. And if you grouped everyone who doesn't have lactase, they would not be limited to Asia. \n\nIf we take for granted that race exists, saying Asians are more LIKELY to have issues with lactase expression means there's a difference in distribution of a genetic trait between Asians and non-Asians. This is not an ABSOLUTE difference. So if a patient whose chart identifies as Asian comes in reporting diarrhea after eating certain foods, him being Asian is not going to help me decide whether or not I should look into lactose intolerance. ",
"I agree with this. A better way to help people is to focus on *any* people who need help. It's equal treatment. No quotas, race grouping, just... which people/families are struggling the worst. Help those people the most, with taxes going to education, safety, etc. Select by low income, high crime, unhappiness - wherever it appears.",
"If it was obvious, people wouldn't have to keep pointing it out, over and over and over and over. It's obvious TO YOU. That doesn't mean it's obvious to everyone.\n\nMy question has always been, \"If you meant #BlackLiveMatterToo why didn't you say that?\" Unless there's a damn good reason, then it's your fuck up (you in the general sense, not you specifically) and expecting people to just automatically understand what you mean is arrogance and bullshit. ",
"That person posted a lot of comment, mind linking to the one you're talking about specifically?",
"The key word that I was responding to is diagnosis. I have not found that knowing the race of a patient tells me whether or not I should add or subtract a differential diagnosis to the workup. \n\nI have mentioned treatment after the diagnosis has been made in another post. Yes, there are treatment recommendations based on racial categories. I see it as a crude version of individual-based pharmacogenetics, by grouping people with long-term geographic ancestry into cohorts. When there are differences in results, it will be because the there may be a chance of such a group having a a higher prevalence of a unique genetic trait that influences affects pharmacokinetics.",
"My inner stellaris and imperium of man trembles.",
"yea fuck off karma whore",
"Then give them white names. Just kidding.\n\nI understand why it's there and it makes sense. All I mean is these kinds of policies are based on the fact that there are racial differences, which is against the perceived message of the sign. I think that we should weed out these businesses that hire people based on race and other physical factors. It's idealistic, I know, but it would result in a meritocratic society. \n\nYou must admit that it's racist to not hire someone justbecause he is white, just the same as to not hire someone because just because he is black. Buzzfeed has been known to do this.",
"Kek",
"I'm not sure why breast-cancer is being brought up, maybe this is in response to someone else's comment. I have not had an Ashkenazi patient before, but I have read that they often perform genetic testing during family planning to reduce the chance of genetic disorders from appearing in their children.",
"I didn't say it was obvious to everyone. Just those who don't carry around a load of racial resentment. There are a lot of people unfortunately who fall in the latter category and are chronically unable to understand the concept even after having had it explained to them several times.",
"A big problem is that we focus too much on the people who don’t agree with this message. \nFuck those people. ",
"That's a distortion of the word \"better.\" People can have preferences without believing that their preference is inherently better.\n\nAlso, you skipped over where I explained that my friendship comfort zone is based on culture, not race.",
"Well, now it's [culturism](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Culturism)..\n\nYou really need to live as a ethnic guy in a western country to understand I guess. ",
"No, not caring about race is fine, cause that pretty much requires you to accept the differences.",
"Yep. One race. You win. Now can we get the fuckk of the streets and start putting our skillsets to work?\n\nSPELLING\nEDIT: OFF*\nEDIT#2: FUCK*",
"This is patently false. It seems that they are disproportionately attacked because they make up a disproportionate amount of the criminals.\n\nAnd not only that, but cops kill white people at a higher rate than they do blacks in confrontation.",
"Predispositions and genetic disorders have stronger prevalence in identified population groups. These are large scale observations made after the fact. For the purpose of diagnosis, they can help with public health, such as awareness campaigns or allocation of resources. When working one on one with a patient, being presented with his race has not changed whether I decided to include pursue a specific differential diagnosis. I think you will eventually experience this too.\n\nFor example, when you see a new patient's basic info before walking into the room (age, gender, race, chief complaint, vitals), and you begin to vaguely organize the differentials in your mind, you may consider racial predispositions. But once you have more details, I think you will find that race will not contribute very much. \n\nIf the history, signs, and symptoms cause you to consider a differential that is rarely associated with the patient's race, you are not going to use race as a reason not look into this differential.\n\nIf the history, signs, and symptoms cause you to disregard a differential that is strongly associated with the patient's race, you are unlikely to continue pursuing the differential.\n\nWhen you are performing a focused history and physical, I believe you will find that you will not use race as a reason to include or skip any components. More than likely, you will develop your own system based on the chief complaint. And if you decide to perform a very complete H&P, you aren't going to skip any components because of the patient's race.\n\nIt was brought up by someone else, there are some treatment recommendations that are affected by race. But what I have discussed was for diagnosis only.\n\nEdit: It may actually be an interesting topic for discussion in small group discussions. In med school and residency, some attendings would have regular meetings about once per week where the students could ask anything, or had to present an ethical dilemma or interesting topic. Maybe your attendings have had different experiences than mine.",
"Do you think MLK would still endorse the riots if he saw the state of the cities where the riots happened today?",
"What are you talking about, use white men have plenty of white things ",
"asian, white and black",
"Then Google them and show us the url then ",
"[I. Can't. Even.](https://i.giphy.com/media/ZEVc9uplCUJFu/200w.gif)",
"You seem to be trying to conflate preference with mistreatment. I can be attracted to or enjoy one person over another, it doesn't mean I've mistreated anyone.",
"Politics. ",
"Scientifically accurate.",
"\"you're a fucking white male!!\"\n\nthe liberal battlecry",
"Why weren’t you",
"BLM is now about reparations.\n\nNot going to support checks given to people just because they are black.\n\nsorry, not sorry.",
"“Bloody Tark”",
"Do you think ignoring someone is mistreating them? Cuz I feel fucking invisible. ",
"> They don't exist anymore. Calling yourself something, doesn't mean you are, even if you sympathize with their views.\n\nDont be pedantic. Call it Neonazis if you want to be anal, but you know damn well what people mean when they call someone a nazi. Nazis and their ideology is alive and well.\n\n> Sure, so were other immigrants, who were oppressed. But also your poor uneducated (whoever you choose). Still has mountains of privilege more than say, that factory worker in shenzen who works 16 hour days.\n\nAnd they live in the USA? I can march, and make a difference for that guy in the USA? Im sorry, but this is the same old bullshit every mom totes about starving kids in Africa. Someone, somewhere, always has it worse. Does not mean i can't care about lesser evils too. **Hell, most people are actually capable of multiple things at once.**\n\nAnd you still didnt refute that historical context matters for understanding black peoples situation. You simply added another group, immigrants.",
"One way this will EVER happen.... Alien invasion!",
"You really aren't the brightest, are you?",
"Could this be seen as positive if a white person were holding the sign?",
"I'm not a geneticist, so maybe there is such a thing as well defined races, but this is my personal opinion. Assuming there's such a thing as being 100% of a particular race, offsprings could have any number combinations. 50/50? 50/25/25? 50/25/12.5/12.5? The possible combinations could be endless. Which begs the question, was there ever any \"pure\" races in the first place, and why bother keeping track? \n\nBut leaving that aside, unique genes will be more common the closer you get to the geographic or hereditary point of origin. Some of these genes can affect predisposition of diseases and responses to treatment. Therefore, studies looking for differences in what's considered race can have statistical significance. I think it is crude to lump widely varying people into large groups, but this may be better than nothing. \n\nIn the future, maybe using a person's entire genome will be the gold standard to address these issues, rather than trying to figure out which race someone should be identified as. We already have genetic tests to identify risks, disorders, and help guide treatment, but each one is looking for very specific parts of the DNA.",
"Tell that to BLM, NAACP, Black Panthers and every other exclusively black group and organization. Let's not forget about all of their exclusive schools either. ",
"you've got it backwards \"irresponsible to act like it doesn't exist\" is a disgusting thing to say, because if everyone acted like racism didn't exist then it wouldn't and everyone would be happy, your idea that people MUST focus on race is exactly what drives racial categorization for political purposes which only creates more racism.",
"i thought we were quoting wc2",
"What if blocking traffic to the police station prevented a cop from getting to an emergency situation and preventing a murder?\n\nWhat if sitting at the front of the bus caused the bus driver to put the route on hold until a cop could arrive to arrest her? What about everyone else on the bus who is now very late to work, even if they agree with her cause?\n\nWe can play what if games all day.\n\nBy the way, I’m curious how many people died because they couldn’t get to a hospital as a result of the protests. Surely it would have made the news, no?",
">> If biologists are using the term, they're using it in error.\n>\n>lol, according to who? You? \n\nNo, according to the International code of Zoological nomenclature, and every other naming and taxonomy code dating back to the 1800s.\n\n\n>> not as a misnomer for a biological classification\n>\n>Race is biological classification.\n\n\nNot according to any of the international standards on taxonomy or nomenclature. I think that is the third time I have had to say this. \n\n\n>> \"black\" and \"white\" people are not subspecies.\n>\n>Sub-saharan African and European are, though. And that's what \"black\" and \"white\" means.\n\nTo the extent that \"race\" is used as an informal synonym for subspecies, there are only 3 widely recognised human subspecies: Homo sapiens idaltu (extinct), homo sapiens neanderthalensis (not even fully agreed to be a subspecies, also extinct) and homo sapiens sapiens, to which both Europeans and Sub-Saharan africans belong. The ICZN recognises no further divisions below subspecies. There is no *Homo sapiens European* or *Homo sapiens sub-saharan African.*\n\nAdditionally, grouping \"sub-saharan Africans\" together as one race is just showing that you are still stuck in thinking of race as a social concept. Genetically, the Mbuti people are distinct from the Bantu, who are themselves distinct from the Khoikhoi, who are completely distinct from the Hadza people. They all share one important characteristic though - they all have black skin. So tell me, what lead you to decide that they were all one race? It can't be because you analysed their Y-DNA haplogroups - [that would show they are distinct,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_Sub-Saharan_Africa) as would every other method of genetic clustering analysis. Could it be because they're all black?",
"Aww it think its human",
"I just read your edit. I’m so sorry you feel that way. \n\nI don’t know what to say. I know that being an outsider is very difficult. I was in that position when I was young.\n\nI hope you are able to make friends that can encourage you.\n\nI’m guessing you are new to your country of residence? Have you been able to meet anyone you could bond with?",
"So... groups that fight for the rights of a historically oppressed minority are against the message that we are all one race, humans?\n\nWut",
"Praise the Elon! Our Savior from the dusk of the mankind. \\\\[T]/",
"I don't agree that race is a social construct. At all. And I'm a liberal.\n\nRace dictates many physiological aspects of our lives. Black people can get sickle-cell. People from the Andes and Sherpas are brilliant at high altitude. White people tend to have the ability to digest lactose. So there are differences between us.\n\nHowever, I don't agree that race says anything about your culture, IQ, mindset, etc...",
"> Technically speaking races don't exist in humanity and all attempts at forcing race into genetics and taxonomy are pseudoscience at best.\n\nExplain why **race-obsessed** progressives brigading from SRS deem anything white = \"oppressor\" and anything non-white = \"oppressed POC\". \n\nPlease stop peddling blatant pseudo-science via your desire to categorize people into racial buckets, oh Geary, you inconsistent, self-contradictory hack...",
"the hobbit movies were also shit because they turned it into a trilogy.\n\n\nHobbit - 95k words\n\nFellowship - 187k\n\nTT - 156k\n\nROTK - 137k\n\nA trilogy for a 95K book vs a Trilogy for a combined 480k 3 book series.\n\nYou really can't get around that reality. Also the hobbit was like a kids book, and they tried to get around that too, it just made for a really piss-poor story.",
"My response was specific to diagnosis. Yes there are treatment recommendations based on race. The equations are part of the workup. I could have worded it better or went into more details.\n\nFor diagnosis, things like racial prevalence, I feel are more for a larger setting. When working with individual patients, I find it less useful. Knowing the race won't change the information I'm looking for during the history and physical. For example, if someone has a fever, knowing if they're Asian or White won't change whether I ask if they have recently traveled abroad. Once I have the HP, knowing race outside of specific things like the equations or requests for genetic screening panels does not eliminate or add a differential diagnosis to the list. It doesn't help me decide to order a test. \n\nCultural issues are individual. Anyone's belief's and preferences can be different from first impressions. Knowing race does not tell me how a new patient feels about different parts of the interaction. I think it's better to develop my own prefaces and bedside manners during questions and exam to use with all new patients, then make adjustments as I learn more about them.",
" They are biological genetic differences. But collating certain differences in to a race is what has no biological basis, any more than people having red hair or a susceptibility to Parkinson's makes them a separate race.\n\n> Don't most white people retain the ability to digest milk into adulthood? Aren't a lot of asian people like \"allergic\" to alcohol? \n\n I have no idea where you got those misconceptions from but that's what they are. But by your own logic, that would mean every 'white person' who isn't lactose intolerant isn't white?\n",
"Yeah, they somehow butchered an amazing story with a shit ton of pointless fluff. I was really excited for the movies too. I could even see how you could still divide the story into 3 movies without fucking it in the ass, but they obviously saw things differently.",
"hasn't there been a scientific research that whites or asians are more likely smarter than any other race? with higher iq ",
"Human isn't a race, is a species.",
"No, HIPAA would definitely not prevent the reporting of a death. That is absurd. Don’t use that as an excuse for why you can’t find any reports.\n\nYes, I know about Rosa Parks, lol. You dodged how she likely inconvenienced a bunch of people who agreed with her.\n\nAnd blocking off a police station for a significant amount of time would definitely have a significant impact on the force’s overall ability to respond. \n\nYou are trying to dodge the fact that people could still suffer under your suggested protests. More to the point, people like yourself used the same arguments for why those in the civil rights movement needed to dial it back.\n\nA few weeks ago, protesters in Iran flooded the streets. I’m sure traffic was absolute hell. Should they have not protested?\n\nLet’s be honest: your real issue is not with the method, but the cause it represents. ",
"species*",
"It is very literally the dictionary definitions, social constructionism regarding gender has been proven overtly wrong by predisposition of choice among toys, to pretend that men and women don't share different mental biochemistry would then conflict with the idea that a woman can be born in a man's body, ergo transgenderism is essentially a fetish.\n\nThe same has been done for race, you wouldn't even need a study to be able to clearly identify them as different races, for example let's look at a couple of differences between Orient-Mongoloids and Negros.\n\nOne has a larger bone mass\n\nOne is exceptionally taller\n\nOne has a high C02 max\n\nOne has larger average penis length\n\nBoth share differences in immunity/weakness from different diseases\n\nOne has a higher average IQ\n\n***sorry that someone had to point out the obvious but now let's define what a race is***\n\n\"Races may be genetically distinct populations of individuals within the same species, or they may be defined in other ways, e.g. geographically, or physiologically\"\n\nThey fall into the realm of not just one of those categories to be able to sufficiently call them different races but they fall into all 3.\n\n**inb4 You're a racist**\n\nYeah okay mate.\n\n\n \n\n\n\n\n\n\n",
"A social construct, really? There are clear physical and mental differences. Difference between a tiger and panther also a social construct? Sure you can just say cat is cat, but that dosnt change the fact that there are differentiating factors in varied areas. Denying and ignoring that differences exist is not exactly healthy for living together. ",
"This will happen when we start meeting other life forms.",
"In the original script she was a child.",
"As you wish. Both ends of the political spectrum have shockingly stupid people. If you don't believe that some administrator at some college could hear \"minorities can't be considered racist\" and then apply it by making a stupid policy like that... Well then you are entitled to your opinion even though in this case you are wrong ",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2d2SzRZvsQ\n\nI'm with Morgan Freeman stop making people identify as a race period.",
"I agree that \"person of stutter\" sounds absurd. That's exactly my point. \"person of colour\" sounds just as absurd (and with some added prejudice inherent to the word \"colour\" thrown in).\n\nHere's another example: retarded vs person of retard. Same meaning, except one of them sounds overly formal and pompous. And it doesn't become less derogatory just because you add some more syllables.",
"maybe because they built the civilization you live in for themselves?",
"> Just those who don't carry around a load of racial resentment.\n\nSo just those who aren't a bunch of racist dickbags. Got it.\n\n> and are chronically unable to understand the concept even after having had it explained to them several times.\n\nHere's a tip:\n\nWhen making a slogan, make it such that you never have to explain it to anyone.\n\nAgain, there is literally no good reason why it couldn't be #BlackLivesMatterAlso or #BlackLivesMatterToo. Literally no good reason at all. And TONS of good reasons for it to be one of those two.\n\nSo, once again, whenever someone mistakes the slogan? That's BLM's fault, 100%. They could have been more clear, they chose not to be. That's on them. Saying otherwise is just making excuses for bad decisions.",
"Species, not race.",
"I guess they didn’t have enough people upset that “we’re still talking about race” in the room to give feedback when “they” were deciding the hashtag. Because, yes, it is extremely obvious what they mean to anyone who isn’t offended by their protest.\n\nDid you ever ask yourself why virtually everyone who didn’t understand still remained unsympathetic to BLM after it was explained to them what it meant? And why virtually everyone who is sympathetic to the cause understood what it meant immediately without having to have it explained to them?\n\nThat is no coincidence.\n\nAnd please don’t lie to yourself about the underlying reason. It has nothing to do with the wording of the hashtag. ",
"There’s too much money in race hustling for this to happen",
"> Because, yes, it is extremely obvious what they mean to anyone who isn’t offended by their protest.\n\nNO...IT...IS...NOT! You keep saying it is like that's some sort of proof. But the proof is that there are more people who don't get it innately then that do, and that means you're wrong. It is not obvious. At all. You can say it's obvious all you want but you are obviously, blatantly, objectively wrong.\n\n> Did you ever ask yourself why virtually everyone who didn’t understand still remained unsympathetic to BLM after it was explained to them what it meant? \n\nI mean, this is ALSO patently wrong. I guarantee that at least SOME people have been like \"OH! That makes sense!\" and become sympathetic. But your hyperbole aside, maybe it's because they have people like you explaining it, telling them how if they don't know what it means innately then they are obviously racists. I'm sure that's not helping.\n\nAt the end of the day there is, and I'll say this once again, LITERALLY NO GOOD REASON FOR THE HASHTAG TO IMPLY \"TOO.\" There is ABSOLUTELY no reason the hashtag can't have the \"too\" as part of the hashtag. LITERALLY no reason why the movement can't be explicit.\n\nAnd because there is no reason to not be explicit, it's the movement's fault, 100%, when people don't get it. You can keep calling people racist all you want, it won't change the fact that it's BLM's own fault AND NO ONE ELSE when people misunderstand their message.\n\nIf you want your message to be understood, BE AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE. That's fucking messaging 101. BLM fails at entry level messaging. That's on them. No one else is to blame.",
"[All Warcraft 2 unit quotes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dt_VlJr6R4&index=1&list=PLCcSv3XxBu5-BRPgs2CiId39wr0EYHQui)",
"But why? That's a racist view. You're attributing certain aspects of your character to your skin color. That's just ridiculous. I see how there are communities that are mainly black and that have a common culture, but that culture should not be attributed to theit skincolor. Because skincolor doesn't matter. If you're saying only black people can emg. rap in a certain way, that's racist. If you identify yourself as a black person, that's racist. Because it's only part of your look, but nothing more. You shouldn't identify with it as a person.",
"It's actually species but people are more likely to under race.",
"It's funny how black people are complaining about racism but then insist on living in \"black\" communities, watching \"black\" television, being part of the \"blsck culture\" solely because of their skincolor... They're just as much part of the problem as the people who are descriminating.",
"I guess you missed the part about eyewitnesses stating as much. But okay.",
"Not everyone with fair skin belongs to the same race but the Europeans OP listed are in fact considered to be caucasians (I did not make up the racial classifications). They belong to many different ethnicities and cultures but they do belong to the same race. Just like people of subsaharan African descent belong to the same race and belong to a multitude of ethnicities and cultures. South Asians, for example, have dark skin but are not from subsaharan African descent therefore they are not considered/do not identify as black.\n\nEdit: being downvoted for explaining basic anthropology lol ",
"You're assuming that individuals feel 'absolved' of any kind of responsibility.\n\nGeneralizing a group of internet users on how they think and react to a reddit post is silly and ignorant. ",
"So stop using Reddit instead of bitching, it's not that hard",
"PC Master race ",
"Typical alien, trying too hard to fit in. ",
"Yup",
"Wow, you have no idea what any of the words being used mean.",
">if you identify yourself as a black person, that’s racist\n\nThat’s when i knew you were a troll",
"You are a fucking idiot, seek mental help.",
"Right. skin color is no more important than eye color, and less important than blood type.",
"Its funny watching people with a sub-80 I.Q try to sound clever.\n\nGraduate high school first before trying to talk to other people, honey.",
"Exactly. We have a deeply ingrained instinct to divide the world into “us vs them,” and we see it everywhere. Politics, gender relations, ethnic groups, it’s everywhere. And it’s hard to overcome, but possible if we’re determined. Like you said, we have to expand the circle. Finding common ground is the way to start, but people must be willing to look for it. ",
"Or more accurately, many races but one species. ",
"Why do all these women march posts get gilded? Feels like someone is pushing some agenda or idk. Seems weird to me",
"Human no race, stupide.",
"As long as we got 'ol One Eye Yarrick",
"We desperately need these aliens to show up and start blowing up the landmarks, it’s the only way we’d be one race.",
"I don't get why people won't accept the fact that humanity is a species subdivided in races. Just because we are different it doesn't mean we should be treated in different way, humanity is beautiful because of it's diversity.",
"Well, then it doesn't sound like it would've helped if they'd let you pick your race.",
"A large number of people focusing on a problem does not mean they automatically have the correct solution. A very large number of people went to Trump rallies, that doesn’t make Trump a good solution for their problems. ",
"I'm mad for crack!",
"there will always be a difference in opinion, someone will always not like something about someone else but how we need to improve society is to just accept that, instead of criticising someone and separating them for being racist, accept that that’s their option and instead make your effort to change what you can and not just complain that someone has a different opinion, i think racism is blown up by protests and conflict and instead we should just move on and hope to influence the future generations the way we want. ",
"What differences are there besides skin tone?",
"No, it wouldn’t mean that... but it would mean that if you had a bunch of slips of paper representing people in a room and you couldn’t see those people... and on the slip of paper, it just had some biological stats like “is lactose intolerant and has crumbly, dry ear wax” or “has sickle cell anemia”, you could organize those slips of paper in a way that would look awfully close to segregation, with a few exceptions. ",
"So the women’s march *isn’t* about all the sexual assault going on?",
"You can tell what race someone was by only looking at their bones, it's done in forensics all the time. How does it not exist? ",
"Yes, it happened several thousand years ago",
"Similar question, what about dead chickens? Is that bestiality or just masturbating? what about a chicken cutlet? Surely it's the same answer for both. It's not like disassembling the chicken makes it not an animal.... \n\nWeird question, but it's a thinker lol",
"Actually I find the moderators pretty good there. I regularly argue with political opponents and never get banned.",
"You're either a troll or an illiterate shit-head....",
"r/menkampf is really the best sub to find those kinds of articles. It's basically an aggregator for \"We need to get rid of white males\" type stories.",
"> If Asians are in actual fact better at math, it's because of linguistic / cultural reasons, not race.\n\nSure but race and culture are very closely intertwined in many cases.\n\nTry talking about the cultural issue of black crime and see how quickly you get called a nazi.",
"Now this I can get behind!!",
"Not to be confused with cobraphilia, a lot more dangerous endeavor. ",
"You seem to be agreeing with the poster above",
" >you could organize those slips of paper in a way that would look awfully close to segregation, with a few exceptions. \n\n I don't understand what point you are trying to make. Yes, certain genetic disorders are specific to certain subgroups. That does not validate the concept of race in biological terms.\n\n\nhttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-construct-scientists-argue/\n\n\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_categorization)\n\n",
"you realize he is mocking people honey?",
"that's really bad ass and everything, but if people are allowed to call virtually anything racist, the world will be one big fight/penal system. ",
"Again, you're presupposing the existence of \"race\" in the racist sense, e.g. a taxonomic-like classification. But even if differentiating features are correlated with a specific culture, that is not evidence for \"race\" in any useful sense. If you want to argue black on black crime is *caused* by \"race,\" you have a very high burden of *proof.* The reason you get called a nazi for alluding to the idea that black crime is resultant of racial imperative is because it is such an asinine idea that it's incredulous anyone could arrive upon it in earnest.",
"Not really. Many races, one species but good sentiment tho. ",
"Nice try Squirrel.",
"> If you want to argue black on black crime is caused by \"race,\" you have a very high burden of proof\n\nBut i'm not I specifically said it was due to culture.",
"I'm saying that you don't have to posess societal *power* over another individual for you to be racist towards them. ",
"And even before races, nationality! Why does everyone forget about Ireland?",
"Am I the only one who thought she was holding a rose in her mouth from the thumbnail?",
"How's it racist to say it's not an issue when the statistics show cops shoot whites at the same rate as blacks when you account for crime levels in those respective communities?",
"ARGH! BOOTERANG! ",
"Just had a flashback.... GET THE FUCK OFF MOM SAID ITS MY TURN YOU HAD YOUR HOUR NOW GO VACUUM YOU STUPID PICE OF SHIT BEFORE I KICK YOU IN THE BACK OF YOUR THROAT! \n\nI miss my childhood...",
"> But i'm not I specifically said it was due to culture.\n\nThis is like arguing with a flat-Earther who says objects fall to Earth because of \"density.\" If you can't understand the conceptual foundation of your own statements, I can't really help you.\n\nYour original statement(s) implies that black culture is the result of something having to do with race. If you divorce race from the issue and make is solely about culture, then you have done the work of debunking racism for me. If you're still somehow trying to fit race into the equation, it becomes more of a flat-Earther discussion.",
"So black culture doesn't exist to you? That's honestly some dumb shit.\n\nYou're just trotting out the old \"culture can't be defined\". The truth is culture is not a mathematical concept.",
"You can keep linking to that all you want, but if you can look at a genetic quirk that is either unique to, or overwhelmingly prevalent in one race or another, people aren’t going to agree that race isn’t biological. If race isn’t biological, then why will 2 Asian parents always have an Asian baby? Why will two black parents never have a hispanic baby? It’s not racist or demeaning or otherwise hurtful to acknowledge that if you are a white person with white skin, blonde hair and the other physical markers of being white, it’s because you are genetically white. ",
"Whenever I have to fill out a form that asks me for my race, I simply write \"human\"",
"Culture exists. If you put a white person into black culture, they will adapt to those environmental factors, e.g. Eminem. The inverse is also true. What is some \"dumb shit\" is the idea that culture says anything about race. What do trailer parks say about whites? It's so dumb.",
"Yep I agree. There is an 5x different in rape, murder and armed robbery for people with black skin compared to white (according to FBI). There is also a fairly distinct culture among people with black skin in the US. Seeing it yet?",
">You can keep linking to that all you want, \n\nSorry to bring science into it.\n\n\n>but if you can look at a genetic quirk that is either unique to, or overwhelmingly prevalent in one race or another, people aren’t going to agree that race isn’t biological. \n\n That's the logical fallacy of begging the question: You assume the thing [race is biological] to be true that you are trying to prove. \n\n> If race isn’t biological, then why will 2 Asian parents always have an Asian baby? \n\n You are confusing genetics with race. ",
"Blacks have suffered from of hundreds of years of slavery and institutional racism, so those statistics you're talking about are actually a feature of white culture. The irony would be comical if it weren't so tragic.",
"Careful now.",
"seriously? Take my word for it, I mean what I'm saying. Challenge my views. Do you think black people are inherently different apart from skincolor from white people?",
"I apologize for my snappiness. I strongly disagree and think you are doing the standard dance of avoiding the obvious. But I'm honestly not in the mood to do this today, I shouldn't have started it.",
">orthancs Obama\n\nPoetry",
"Is this as horribly racist as the \"all lives matter\"?",
"Honestly. What you said is so unfathomably stupid and ignorant that i can’t even begin to try to debate you. Its too much emotional fucking energy. So bye have a great day! ",
"you're confusing gender and sex. you may want to look it up again",
"Your \"acknowledgement\" and \"actual fact\" (???) is a subjective opinion designed to put people down on arbitrary criteria.\n\nYou are the problem.",
"Very well. But keep in mind that the conclusions of science are often at odds with what is initially obvious. Everyone is subject to cognitive bias, but what makes you scientist is your ability to set that aside and trust the data. Likewise for sociology and philosophy.\n\nA good, totally unrelated exercise is to read up on free will and compatibalism. This will really test your ability to at least question the obvious, even if you're unwilling to accept the conclusions. You seem like an intelligent and reasonable person, so I do hope that you don't let your gifts go to waste on racist nonsense. My apologies if I come off as harsh, I admit I have become slightly too belligerent as a result of trying to have this kinds of discussions.\n\nGood day.",
">but even poor white people have some privilege over black people.\n\nThey're POOR. It doesn't matter if you have \"some privelege over x group\" if you're all at rock bottom. Why is this hard to understand? ",
"Honest sounds like a good convo. Hit me up in another thread in a few days if possible.",
"All I had to do was read the user name. ",
"Not really, more like one species but whatever...",
"Great. Just discriminate against the anthros and other kin!",
"Race is genetic. I am not confusing them. A white person cannot be black because they don’t have the genes of a black person. Are you saying that socially, they can be black? Because that’s retarded (which is also genetic)",
"So what’s it about? Because if I were to go based on this picture, I’d think it was about race... but someone else said it’s a women’s march... I can’t figure out what it’s about other than clever signage. ",
"It definitely does matter. White people are less likely to be attacked by police or denied job opportunities than black people at the same socioeconomic level",
" If you bothered to look at the links provided:\n\n\n>\"What the study of complete genomes from different parts of the world has shown is that even between Africa and Europe, for example, there is not a single absolute genetic difference, meaning no single variant where all Africans have one variant and all Europeans another one, even when recent migration is disregarded,\" Pääbo told Live Science. \"It is all a question of differences in how frequent different variants are on different continents and in different regions.\"",
"Yes, this was before the internet was a twinkle in Al Gore's eye, but we lived in a big city and there were lots of special shops...",
"And that doesn’t mean it’s not genetic! Because race is not a *single* difference between two people. A white person with short curly hair isn’t black. A black person with blue eyes isn’t white. It’s a multitude of small variations, which when taken as a whole, make you the race you are. Skin color, hair texture, physical features, body composition, etc. So yeah, there isn’t a single variant. But there are sets of genetically-controlled attributes for a person that make them black or white or Asian or Samoan or Hispanic or whatever. ",
"We need to unite to fight the Aliens when we branch out into the universe. Humanity first! Channelling my inner stellaris player.",
"So Aragorn was supposed to be a shoe wearing hobbit?",
" I'm not saying race doesn't exist just that is a social construct with no basis in biology.\n\n Those variations you cite are no more significant than people with red hair, green eyes and freckles would constitute a race other than whatever social constructs we impose.\n\n But I'm done with this. It seems as fruitless to argue this with you than arguing climate science with denier.",
"Are you serious? These are thousands of years of parallel evolution in different directions. Basically every performance indicator. Body height, Muscle volume, lung volume, antibodies, brain tissue, average intelligence, skin thickness, metabolism, hair color, bone and face stucture etc, basically everything. These are races, not colors. ",
"So _you_'re a troll, then. Huh. Or your opinion is _so_ thought through that you cam't even defend it? lmao",
"KUTANGELSAKSEN\n\nNU M'N UNIE UIT\n\nRIEEEEEE",
"Virtue signal\n\nWell you just outed yourself as alt right good job.",
"Srs isn't doing genetics or taxonomy.",
"No it's not actually subjective it's backed by tons of objective scientific research. White private is real and if you get that mad about people just acknowledging it you may be a little racist buddy.",
"> So once again, there is absolutely no grey area here. There is in no way shape or form, evidence biologically or genetically of race as we know it in the cultural mind.\n\nThen how does Affirmative Action work? And all those scholarships for Black students, are they unscientific and ultimately destructive?",
"Whatever, it doesn’t matter anyway",
"\"One species: mammal\"",
"The long response detailing the situation.",
"I remember finding this and the Spice Channel. Good times. ",
"So you think that different races are basically different species? What do you say about mixed race people?",
"“We”? Sounds like we are part of a club. I don’t recall getting a membership notice.",
"Race is a huge part of identity but it's not totally self-administered. Most people are socially assigned race based mostly on their appearance. The only difference scientifically in skin color is melanin, but it has historically been used for much more nefarious reasons. \n\nBut there have been major flaws with race-based medical care. Asian Americans in particular have had issues because of how many ethnicities there are in that race. For example, Asian Americans have the lowest rates of obesity and obesity related diseases. East Asians are on whole social-economically better off than South East Asians, and therefore they have significantly lower rates of obesity, heart disease and diabetes. In fact, groups like Cambodians and Hmong have higher rates of those diseases than black or Latinos in the US. Because the largest Asian groups in the US are Chinese, race actually has a negative effect medically on these smaller Asian groups because their medical treatment differs from groups that have significantly higher amounts of capital on whole.\n\nMuch of the science behind medically treating race is about ethnicity/culture, basing treatment off diet, socioeconomic status and medical sensitivities. \n\nWe do classify race based on skin color but very loosely. In fact, even the racist scientists in the 1900's determined skin color was not a determining factor in determining someone's race for citizenship. In fact, one of the cases literally changed the definitions of white to include middle easterns, who traditionally were considered Asian because of dark skin, because a Syrian man argued in the courts that he was from the same geographical region as Jesus. We see the same with groups like Irish and Italian getting considered white and groups like Indian flip flopping between white and Asian. ",
"But what about the special programs that make people with hurt feelings rich?",
"No thats not what I said. I said races are races and not a 'social construct'. Hence the name. ",
"What are you on about? This literally has nothing to do with AA/Scholarships. I can only assume youre hoping to start an argument where you voice racism & hate, if thats your intention, fuck off. If not feel free to elaborate and I'll be more than happy to answer your questions.",
"That's culture, not race. ",
"Been behind it since 1993. ",
"Race tells us to view human differences and determines societal definitions from them. \n\nAsian is not genetically passed down, but what we consider Asian traits are. Asian parents have black hair and Asian eyes so plugged into a punnet square those features will be passed down too. But if the Asian parent moves to the US, what isn't passed down to that child is Asian culture, Asian languages, etc. Those are learned behaviors. \n\nNow back on the swastika being used as a symbol: socially, we look at black hair and Asian eyes and we determine those features mean the person is Asian. More deeply, we then associate the meanings behind how Asians are viewed socially. \n\n",
"In early drafts yes. ",
"How racist!",
"In early drafts the one who guided the four hobbits safely to Rivendell was a shoe wearing hobbit. \n\nI’m not sure if Trotter was also supposed to be the king of Gondor. (I think it’s unlikely)",
"Except for the page you linked to has 11 parts to the definition, 10 of which you left out. It's almost like you tried to change the meaning of the word there.",
"Then why are you arguing? This was literally my exact point.",
"doesn't mean you should give up on trying to make them listen",
"> This literally has nothing to do with AA/Scholarships.\n\nWhether or not race is real has to do with _everything_ that uses the concept of race. You can't tell that race is not real to a Nazi, so all his arguments are flawed from the start, but then turn around and benevolently allow race-based scholarship, diversity quotes and such stuff.\n\nA counter-argument that goes \"You can't say that black people statistically X because there's no such thing as black people actually\" should apply equally well for X=\"have lower IQ therefore should be sent back to Africa\" and \"are economically disadvantaged therefore should be offered scholarships\".",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rzjmv/comment/dt1o3zu?st=JCQC0VJI&sh=8067156e",
"I'm not saying it does, and I'm not saying that they've even correctly identified the problem. I'm just saying that there must be some problem. They're not just there for no reason at all. Trump's people were feeling all kinds of economic stressors. I don't think they were correctly identifying the sources of the problem and definitely not the correct solutions, but they were out on the street for a reason. And they would need to be listened to without being ridiculed to correctly identify the sources of their problems. What you'd probably find is that taxes and population growth have an outsized effect on rural communities who have a strategy of saving money and spending less due to doing more themselves than in the city. The city has the optimal strategy of specializing to increase revenue, even if it means increasing your costs a little through education, marketing, good location, paying other specialized people to do things for you, etc. But maybe they would say \"Nope, that's not right at all.\" Once you correctly identify the actual problem they're having you can say \"hey, what if we do x, y, and z to help you all out instead of becoming nazis or whatever?\" And that's a much better starting point for negotiating something that will make both sides happy. But if you've incorrectly identified the problem, they just won't care or respond to that solution at all. So if you feel that the problem is not a race issues, but actually a class issue, rather than just tell people they're wrong, you can try to throw out some class-based solutions and see how people feel about them. If they won't help, people will often explain why they won't help they way you think they will. ",
"Yeah. MLK is the one who said a riot is the language of the unheard.",
"> But unfortunately many people that claim to be \"color blind\" end up arguing that there is no discrimination based on race in modern society\n\nEspecially when it's much harder for white person to get into university, when compared to black or mexican one.",
"Do you think he believed that Newark , Detroit and Baltimore would become the cities that they are now after the riots?",
"/r/incel is that way",
"> Genetically speaking\n\nAs an evolutionary biologist myself, no you are wrong. Just changing the name for feelings is stupid. Even Dawkins, who is left wing himself, thinks pretending race isn't real is bad science. ",
"One dude, who had said he *didn't like* BLM, shot four cops at a protest from the top of a building, but he was black so it's BLM's fault.",
"Unlike nazis, BLM didn't embrace and cheer for them.",
"Yeah, because civil rights movements have never blocked traffic before. You being able to take the optimal route to your 9-5 on Wednesday is way more important than black people not being murdered by police who suffer no consequences for doing so.",
"It's pretty clear you haven't the slightest idea what labor is if you think someone could just *die* from it. If someone is expected to have potentially life-threatening complications with their labor, then they'll generally be kept in the hospital and wait for it, induce it early, or perform a c-section.\n\nSecond, labor lasts *hours*. Sometimes *more than a full day*. Having to take a five-minute detour isn't going to factor into that much at all.\n\n***Lastly, Martin Luther King Jr. blocked traffic with his marches constantly. He marched through cities, across bridges, through highways, he marched pretty much anywhere with a wide road other than airport runways. Stop recycling the same old anti-civil rights propaganda***",
"By who?",
"textbook racism",
"Lol thats like saying North Korea is a democracy becuase its in their name.",
"Right on!\n\nIt's us against the MACHINE!",
"No I'm a stable genius",
"aka WHITE PEOPLE BAD\n",
"Nazis... or \"Nazis\"\n\nbecause you guys like to call anyone you dont like nazis",
"Rosa Parks was a staged protest. \n\nNobody was inconvenienced because it happens pre planned with the police already there.\n",
"are you even trying? ",
"Indeed, that 1% says we should really go to Boston :)",
"I refuse to believe this, regardless of whether this is trolling or not.",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26tWWopd_3g&sns=em#t=35s",
"lucky you, i'm lying\n\npls forgive",
"Yeah those guys shouting 'Jews will not replace us', carrying around nazi flags, throwing nazi salutes, and talking and removing all non-white people from the country totally aren't nazis.",
"I don't understand how this is hard for some people get... come on humanity! ",
"I guess if I started quoting Victor Hugo that would get down voted too - in this Idiocracy...",
"Your articles don't even support your position. From the first post you listed:\n\" It is possible to statistically correlate genetic markers with individual geographic ancestry, and to use the genetic markers to hypothesize ancestral genetic clusters. \" And \"In that way there is a distinct statistical correlation between gene frequencies and racial categories.\"\n\nThe only point it makes that remotely supports your position is \"there is no specific gene that can be used to determine a person's race.\" Meanwhile it specifically says someone's race can be determined from their genes generally (statistically). Nobody was claiming there is a specific gene for race, only that race is determined by genes (like everything else in human makeup). To say race isn't in the genes is absurd.",
"Sickle cell is [prevalent in many different groups](http://www.sicklecell.md/faq.asp). The other two have more to do with adaptation to environment. Living in high altitudes for longer periods allows you to perform better in them. This type of adaptation can be seen even over the relative short term. Lactose tolerance is largely to do with a group's ability to safely and economically raise dairy cattle. If you stop eating dairy, you'll soon start having trouble digesting it.\nThese differences, which I agree, should be recognized and celebrated are mainly due to a relationship with social and natural environs. Or in the case of Sickle cell, the relationship with a mutated gene. ",
"Don't confuse necro with copro, the greeks gave us all these fancy terms so that we'd be able to say \"corpsefucker\" and \"shiteater\" without sounding rude",
"Why are you so willing to critically examine rural people’s problems but then subscribe to a reductionist philosophy like intersectionality when it comes to minority problems? It’s very likely that each minority population has their own sets of challenges, but lumping them all into racial prejudice is not working and can’t work because it is so very often not the root cause. It is not building a better tomorrow and is reinforcing race based tribalism in US politics. ",
"Thanks for linking back to it.",
"> The other two have more to do with adaptation to environment. \n\nWell... yeah.\n\nOf course.\n\nEnvironmental pressures lead to genetic diversity. That's natural selection. It is applicable to every person.\n\n> Lactose tolerance is largely to do with a group's ability to safely and economically raise dairy cattle.\n\nThis is self-imposed selection. But has lead to active differences between Europeans/other cattle-rearing peoples and non-Europeans/non cattle-rearing peoples.\n\nEssentially, you're explaining how these differences came about, which I totally agree with. And it's also why the races are not identical: sexual selection, environmental pressures and even economic/food scarcity and pressures have shaped how various people of different race are today.\n\n> These differences, which I agree, should be recognized and celebrated are mainly due to a relationship with social and natural environs\n\nWhich has lead to genetic differences.\n\nBecause that's natural selection.\n\nI may sound pedantic, but what you're talking about is environmental induced genetic variation between sub-populations, which is in direct contradiction with the idea that race is a social construct. If it was a social construct, there would not be these differences. \n\nDon't get me wrong: the treatment and perception of race within the public sphere is very often only on issues that are social constructs, such as notions of culture or IQ. But these examples are explicit differences within sub-sets of populations brought about by genetic variation, i.e. the exact opposite of a social construct. \n\nAnd on the topic of sickle cell, yes I was obviously far too restrictive.",
"Wrong comment, my bad. It’s the second vox article:\n\nThe conclusion: No, local crime rates and economic factors do not explain why police are more likely to use force and use more severe force against black residents. While crime and other factors do explain some of the disparities, race alone predicted use of force and severity of force, the report found",
"nostalgia trip.... thank you kind sir... I miss wc3",
"“And so, it is above and beyond their higher rate — and they do have higher rates of contact with the police for lots of reasons — but above and beyond their rates of contact with the police, and above and beyond their rates of offending, they are still subject to a disproportionate level of use of force by the police.”\n\nhttps://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/report-finds-racial-disparities-in-police-use-of-force",
"The joining of human races is not diversity. It is the opposite. Pool everyone together, and you destroy culture, diversity and innovation amongst citizens. \nNations rise and fall, and society progresses, based on the competition between difference races of people. This is how mankind moves forward. We can be accepting of each other, but to say we are all the same is a terrific lie. \nTake a look at native African tribes. They consider themselves all equal and have no access to other races and nations. So they do not see they are very undeveloped in all senses of the word. The recognition of differences between people is what causes change. Do none of you realise this?? \nPutting everyone under the same boat limits everyone at the level of the weakest of the weak, because of course, the weak cannot rise in one generation to that of the strong. So we are choosing to make everyone on the level of fools, for what reason I really do not know, except perhaps to return us to the time of the Pharaohs",
"No, firstly why would I argue that sex has a biological aspect when sex is entirely biological? I think you're a bit confused.\n\nGender has a strong aspect in biology and can easily be observed in reality, you can see how people from isolated cultures developed a binary gender system with some very few exceptions that prove the rule, the studies have shown this and to argue that it's entirely a social construct is just absurd - even solitary animals who don't form social groups fall into a gender binary determined almost primarily from their given sex.",
"Yes the author claims that, but the data he uses says that the up to 80% of the disparity is explained by crime rate. The rest of the disparity is due to prior convictions, which increase prison sentencing, and potential racial bias. He just words it inversely of how I did making the problem seem more discriminatory than it might be and probably is, and he obfuscates issue the by lumping racial bias and prior convictions which increase prison sentencing together which practically makes this data useless. Basically, this person has an agenda or is only seeing what they want to see. \nI'm replying to you in my inbox because this is hard to keep track of, so sorry if this is unorganized.",
"Yes, but he is mocking a topic he straight up doesnt understand.\n\nThe right wing has always been shit at humour.",
"you got google son, use it",
"I enjoyed this allegory. ",
"Nah",
"Polynesian are Pacific islanders. Tips fedora",
"That study didn't control for if the force was justified or not. If someone is resisting arrest, then force is necessary. The study also defines force very broadly. \n\"But, generally, what we’re talking about is when police use physical force to detain or move or bring into compliance a civilian they’re dealing with, and that could arrange from their mere presence as a threat of force, to gentle hands on, to all the way up to tasering and use of lethal force like firearms.\"\n ",
"Sure, but we have differences. I'd argue that you can't ignore differences, because you then can't promote the idea that differences aren't a bad thing. For example: black cats/dogs are adopted at a much lower rate than other colors. Without acknowledging this difference, we may continue to simply euthanize dogs/cats simply because they're a different color. By acknowledging this difference, we can become more aware of the disparity and start to correct it simply by being attentive to the fact.",
"> Asian is not genetically passed down, but what we consider Asian traits are. \n\nAsian genetics are passed down.",
"Scobu.",
"> No, according to the International code of Zoological nomenclature, and every other naming and taxonomy code dating back to the 1800s.\n\nYou don't understand what the International code of Zoological nomenclature is. It is a naming system, not a determination of what is or is not a valid classification.\n\nRace is synonymous with sub-species and fits into the nomenclature.\n\n> Not according to any of the international standards on taxonomy or nomenclature. I think that is the third time I have had to say this.\n\nRace is synonymous with subspecies, and thus fits in.\n\n> there are only 3 widely recognised human subspecies\n\nSubspecies classification is subjective.\n\n> Genetically, the Mbuti people are distinct from the Bantu, who are themselves distinct from the Khoikhoi, who are completely distinct from the Hadza people. \n\nDifferent subcategories withing the sub-saharan african racial category.\n\n> They all share one important characteristic though - they all have black skin. So tell me, what lead you to decide that they were all one race?\n\nThey are in the same racial category due to their more recent common ancestry.\n\nThe same logic can be used to discredit the term \"mammal.\" Makes no sense.\n\n> It can't be because you analysed their Y-DNA haplogroups - that would show they are distinct, as would every other method of genetic clustering analysis.\n\nWhy wouldn't they be distinct?\n\nThe argument is not \"everyone within a race is identical.\" Nobody thinks that.\n\nIt's just that populations can be grouped together.\n\nI'm genetically distinct from my brother, but we're in the same family.",
"> there is literally no point to classifying humans that way. \n\nIrrelevant. That has no bearing on anything. The usefulness of something does not determine its truthfulness.\n\n> All humans are so close genetically that a caucasian American can have more genetically in common with a person from China than with another caucasian American.\n\nThey *can*, theoretically, but in practice that is uncommon. Usually, these groups (Chinese, caucasian) have more in common within the group than outside.\n\n> he amount of genes responsible for what we perceive as differences between race is absolutely miniscule compared to the tens of thousands that do not.\n\nThis just implies that there are tons of racial differences that we don't even see, and I'd agree.\n\n> Please explain to me the added value of classifying people by their genes that code for their amount of melanin, or how frizzy their hair is or how long or flat their noses are, rather than singling out the people whose genetics code for longer total length of their bowels or the amount of mechanoreceptors in their tendons and call that a race or whatever word.\n\nIt wouldn't be a race because they're not derived from common ancestry...\n\nDo you know what \"evolution\" and \"common ancestry\" mean? Or, do you just think it's irrelevant?",
"You can tell someone's race from a skeleton.\n\nI guess that has nothing to do with biology, though, right?",
"> Humans don't fit into categories like that\n\nThey do.\n\n> you can't derive any useful information from races.\n\nWrong, you can find many properties correlated to race.\n\n> Science doesn't use the biological concept of race because it's a useless classification\n\nWrong. The biological concept of race is used.\n\n> In medicine it can also be used to denote people from certain geographic areas where various single gene disorders are more common, but the existence of an entirely different race based on a single gene hardly seems justified.\n\nIn medicine it is widely used because different races have different physiology.\n\n> As an example the population of all of Africa is grouped under a single black race, but that population is the most genetically diverse population that exists.\n\nYeah, and we group a huge number of animals under the category of \"insect\" even though it's a diverse category. So... what is your point? You clearly don't understand how these things are classified if that's your argument.",
"But the majority of the group has denounced them. That's how groups work.",
"But white is the best future.",
"[That's](https://ir.lib.uwo.ca/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1137&context=totem) [not](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2011/01/alas_poor_yorick_or_is_it_othello.html) [really](http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=98485) [true](http://www.pbs.org/race/000_About/002_04-experts-01-09.htm), and it's immaterial to my point that modern science doesn't regard race as a significant marker.\n\nMaybe scientists are all stupid libcucks, or maybe they know more than you do.",
"it wasn't. Maybe YOU specifically don't have situations where race comes into play, but there absolutely are some where race can be a determining factor for further screenings and or genetic counseling.",
"Yes",
"The ultimate minority is the individual.",
"Wait, no. Your second post makes no sense in context of the first one, but actually the second is the right one.",
"The human in me agrees with my fellow human.\n\nThe scientist in me facepalms that this sign declares a species to be the same race.",
"You seem utterly incapable of comprehending the argument I'm making and I'm not going to waste more time on trying to explain.",
"Apologies and good points. I guess im talking about 2 different things here. \n\nWhat I'm saying is that the categorization based on these differences is a social construct. The effects of this are the truest differences here.\n\nFurther, the environmental stresses leading to genetic changes really just highlight the malleability of the race. We're all the same in our adaptability/susceptibility to our respective environments, which I think is the essence of the sign. ",
"We haven't been able to in several thousands of years, we won't be able to now. And even if so there's still the problem of thinking in regions, nationalities, continents.",
"You sound like you really understand science, so whatever you say!",
"> What I'm saying is that the categorization based on these differences is a social construct.\n\nYes and no.\n\nYes, in social spheres, I would totally agree with you. Races are, when talking about things like culture, essentially non-existent.\n\nHowever, if you change your subject of study (say blood oxygenation levels under certain environmental pressures) then races do exist, and they are useful.\n\nMy entire point was more of a heads up: if you ever discuss this with, say, a race realist, they will get you on the notion that \"race is a social construct\". It isn't, when talking about fundamental biology, and you should probably add that caveat.\n\n> Further, the environmental stresses leading to genetic changes really just highlight the malleability of the race. \n\nTotally. No individual sub-group of humanity is \"more\" evolved, whatever the fuck that could mean. None has a higher innate tendency to genetic variation or evolution. Those are dictated by environmental pressures and time. \n\nFor example, there is far greater genetic diversity among sub-groups in Africa than in North America. This is due to the longer time-span and presence of Homo Sapiens in that region of the world. This does not mean that they are \"more evolved\" than Native Americans, or whatever the hell else. It is just a measure of time under which a population has been pressured by their environment, and how these sub-groups have adapted to said pressures.",
"I guess you missed all the parts in your link that talks about the methods used to effectively determine race from skulls. Did you even read this?",
"George sorros ",
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genetic_Diversity:_Lewontin%27s_Fallacy",
"wheres the sub for furries to jizz all over each other im sure you know that one",
"Different classes of humans is okay though.",
"I love how you insist on using this argument like it solves anything. Systemic racism is the more important problem, that's why it's used interchangabley with racism in academics. What word would you like to use so you can stop equivocating some black guy was mean to me once to the travesty of the systemic racism in our criminal justice systrm.",
"not race, traits\n\nyou seem to be thoroughly confused about how traits are passed down\n\n\"oh nature picks random bullshit traits to carry on\" lol\n\nyoure just desperate to pretend race doesnt exist because that would mean you wouldnt have to tip toe around uncomfortable facts",
"Because muh quotas",
"\"Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon!\"\n\nIsn't cheering them on?",
"Not sure what your trying to express here but a single 15 year old research opinion, that was release shortly after the human genome was first sequenced, was debated at the time and runs contrary to the accpeted view in the field is irrelevant.",
"The whole discussion about races is stupid. There is effectively only one \"race\": the human one.\n\nCultures and customs may vary, there is one race. \n\nEverybody should just stop talking about race, there is no such thing as different races.",
"Shouldn't humans and orcs work together against the real enemy? ",
"We're not talking about whether or not race is real. We're talking about biological and genetic race. Which, again, the conclusion of the scientific community is clear. Many of the articles above specifically go into discussing race as a social construct and discussing its implications, this is a simple concept. AA & minority scholarships were never and are not anything to do with race as a biological/genetic concept. ",
"Yes, there’s nothing wrong with calling attention to that disparity. But what that’s doing is what I said: changing attitudes *about* the black cats and dogs. I think that analogy kind of breaks down because the cats and dogs aren’t agents in this dynamic. They can’t self-identify or form activism groups.\n\nWhat I’m saying is that skin color shouldn’t be a part of someone’s identity. Also that it’s not the skin color that’s the issue, so it shouldn’t be the focus of the discussion. Certain groups of people have been systemically disadvantaged because of historical and current attitudes about their race, but their situation does not apply to everyone who shares their skin color. It’s not about the race, it’s about the history.",
">the travesty of the systemic racism in our criminal justice systrm.\n\nSystemic racism doesn't currently exist. Please provide me evidence to the contrary that isnt confusing correlation with causation. ",
"We have membership as determined by our skin color, but it's more of a feel good thing. Any actual benefits cost money.",
"Italians were not considered white back then. Being ”white” had more to do with culture and heritage. Same as now but for a different group of people. If we cannot understand people completely from the first meeting, we use cues in their appearance to label and group them together for future reference. It’s something deeply rooted in human nature. It doesn’t mean it’s a valid excuse to treat people differently though, but something that needs to be taught to people. The earlier the better. Integration is key here.",
"That’s exactly my point! There are loads of ‘white’ but we just group them together which isn’t very accurate when they all have differing cultures",
"Not at all comparable. \n \nHuman races as we know them are impossible to define biologically. The way we define them is wholly cultural. There is no meaningful genetical difference in what you today consider to be the \"white race\" or the \"black race\". It's based on completely arbitrary traits. \n \nBreeds of dogs, on the other hand, are a human creation. It's literally humans inbreeding animals until they all start looking a certain way. Because of this, it is quite easy to tell the difference (phenotypically and genetically) between different breeds (as long as they're kept inbred). Different breeds have significantly more genetic variation than different human \"races\". It is impossible to compare this artificial, heavily controlled creation to human genetics and apply them to different groups of people.",
"If ‘people of colour’ don’t want to be called by their skin colour first because of the other phrases ties with intense segregation, I can’t see why people can’t respect that. Some won’t care as you don’t some might, because at the end of the day we’re all people with different preferences",
"There are no human races. “Caucasian” is a political term. Italians, french, persian and other groups under this umbrella look nothing alike (to a northener like me) and all have widely different cultures.\nIt was a way to group a bunch of cultures together against other people, like jews. I’m amazed the term is still used today.\n",
"The easiest thing to do than argue etymology is just look at context. Contextually, ‘coloured’ was thrown around a lot during segregation:apartheid so of course people will want to distance themselves from it",
"I think you missed my point? I never said there’s only colour and white, I mentioned black as well because my entire point is the system doesn’t make too much sense scientifically.\n\nAnd besides it can reflect a mainly white dominated society. Not to be divisive, but that’s just how some places are",
"Uhh ok? I suppose people are allowed to call virtually anything purple as well. Not sure if you have any idea what you're talking about.",
"Race is a social construct. There is no genetic basis for it and the characteristics (a better word than traits) chosen to determine race are bullshit and arbitrary.\n\nTell me: Which trait determines if someone is Asian? Now, tell me how that trait helps us determine whether someone is black or not.\n\nI'm not desperate for anything and it's hilarious that you have to pretend that I am. I'm just a realist with a basic grasp on race, science and history.",
"I think MLK Jr. was a lot more radical than a majority of Americans realize. So, I think, were MLK Jr. alive today, he would be saying some things that would not sit well with the general public. Most especially the moderate white Americans who love to quote him these days.",
"He probably also would hate gays as much as he did back then",
"I've actually never heard about that. What did people have against the Italians in particular? ",
"/r/DragonsFuckingZoeQuinn is that way",
"On average there is [more genetical differences within different sub-saharan African ethnicities (all of which you would 100% consider to be \"black race\"), than there are between certain \"black\" and \"white\" ethnicities.](http://www.genetics.org/content/161/1/269)\n \n[Africa is more genetically diverse than the rest of the world combined.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/30/AR2009043002485.html) Yet we group all Africans into a single race, two if you consider northern Africans as a separate one (some consider them to be white, others black, and others a separate race - for the sake of simplicity let's say they're a separate one). \n \nBecause of this, many African ethnicities that are considered \"black\" are genetically closer to \"white\" Europeans, than they are to other \"black\" groups. \n \nSo no, they can't be grouped like you think they can. Genetically at least. \n \nTo add on top of this, the way we define races is constantly changing. 100 years ago you would have a hard time convincing western Europeans that Eastern or Southern Europeans are white. Today, they are all considered to be \"white\". Not only does it change through time, but through location as well, so even today different cultures define races differently - but also different groups of people within the same culture often have different ideas on what race is and who belongs to which race. \n \nLike it or not, races as we know them culturally don't have anything to do with genetics. They're based on cultural and historical circumstances that are biologically completely arbitrary. Races **are** very real culturally, but not biologically.",
"Not sure if serious....? Creepy and dehumanizing?",
"Except most people that say they aren't racist, aren't racist.",
"White privilege would have helped when I was being abused as a child.",
"I don't think we have any control over identity, and skin color will be a part of it — as is hair color (gingers or blondes for example). Aiming for the goal of skin color to be ignored as identity seems unrealistic to me considering how prevalent other physical characteristics have been to identity, even within racial groups (short people, people with blue eyes, etc). \n\nIf it's a part of you, it's part of your identity. There's a lot of history and conscious/unconscious bias that sticks to certain identities, and I agree that is the root of the problem. I just don't think ignoring skin color as identity is any more possible than ignoring the many other physical characteristics that people identify by.",
"It's not, it just shows me that you're entrenched in an ideology that is inherently racist and treats people differently based on the color of their skin.",
"I do appreciate your kindness on the subject though.",
"Race is a social construct, period. What he's speaking about is ethnicity.",
"That's addressed in [this Washington Post article](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/11/arent-more-white-people-than-black-people-killed-by-police-yes-but-no/?utm_term=.b64d2626cf9e) I read a while back - researchers largely agree that the increased number of black people killed by cops is not due to violent crime. The crime rates of various cities don't correlate to the number of black people killed by cops. \n",
"> They do.\n\nNo\n\n> Wrong, you can find many properties correlated to race.\n\nAny meaningful properties? Not appearance, race by appearance makes as much sense as race by hair color.\n\n> Wrong. The biological concept of race is used.\n\nNo, it's not unless we're talking about disgraced \"scientists\" who try to push the same bullshit scientific racism as you are trying to do.\n\n> In medicine it is widely used because different races have different physiology.\n\nNo, in medicine race is used because people who self identify as a certain race are statistically likely to have their ancestral origins in a certain location, and thus they are more likely to have genetic disorders common in that area.\n\n>Yeah, and we group a huge number of animals under the category of \"insect\" even though it's a diverse category. So... what is your point? You clearly don't understand how these things are classified if that's your argument.\n\nNot a valid comparison because insect is a grouping consisting of multiple different species. What you just said is equivalent of saying \"We can group a huge number of animals under the category of \"mammals\" even though it's a diverse category\". So what? We can divide mammals/insects into different species and therefore race exists?\n\nMy dude, if i was arguing against the grouping of different mammals then you sure would've put me in my place, but i'm not.",
"You're just hating on the legal weed vieze flikker",
"\nSeems like that's the opposite of intersectionality though. It's saying that the problems are all inextricably linked. How is that reductionist? Nobody's lumping it all into racial prejudice. I'm willing to critically examine all of it, which tends to piss everyone off. \n\n>and can’t work because it is so very often not the root cause\n\nSometimes it doesn't matter what the root cause is. If you're bleeding out, it doesn't really matter why your leg is cut off, you just put a tourniquet on. \n\n>each minority population has their own sets of challenges\n\nyes, and in a hospital you do triage. We need some way to prioritize issues. For me, it's basically some combination of body count, # of people below the poverty line, and likelihood of some random occurrence destroying your life. ",
"Well, racial classifications are indeed a mere social construct but is still systemically instilled in our society, so we can’t ignore them and the consequences/benefits these terms and classifications being to people. Italians, French etc may not look like or have anything in common with other Europeans or certain fair skinned people but they still belong to the same race. They’re just different ethnicities but that doesn’t make them a different race. An Eritrean will look completely different/have nothing in common with Haitians but they are still considered black.",
"See, THAT I would agree with about not using the term. That's a totally different argument, though.",
"Reddit when controversial black things happen: The blacks are a unified menace.\n\nReddit when controversial white things happen: Mental healthcare is important.",
"Did you watch the raccoons growing up? That was what I thought was my clue. \n\nAnyways, good choice!",
"There is no definition of \"race\" that is accepted by modern biology. ",
"Okay, so is there a definition of \"black person\" or \"white person\" that is based on biology and genetics, and if so what is that definition? ",
"Its not \"black people\" and \"white people\", black is not a race, white is not a race. \n\nThats the mistake people make. \n\nThere are more races in Africa than any other place. ",
"how do you explain tay sachs or sickle cell anaemia then, is that also \"arbitrary\"",
"> you can't derive any useful information from races\n\n> various fields still use the social concept of race to denote certain groups in society. In medicine it can also be used to denote people from certain geographic areas where various single gene disorders are more common\n\nDo you really not see that you're refuting your own point here? Medicine using race to determine potential conditions in a patient is not using the \"social concept\" of race, unless you think disorders are a social construct too. ",
"[Nearly there.](https://imgur.com/bjYX0jF)",
"That's always been the most annoying thing about the race tensions I've seen my entire life. Why are we STILL talking about white or black or brown or yellow? We're all human, we need to STOP dividing ourselves into camps of the one thing that matters least of all about a person; the color of their fucking skin. ",
"No it's not. It is the solution, and it is true. Black or white is not a race. We're not dogs... well, speaking for myself here",
"First of all, I want to direct you to one of the articles you linked: http://time.com/91081/what-science-says-about-race-and-genetics/\n\nSecond, why do you think that anyone cares about some artificial definition of what would it mean for race to be \"real\" in the biological and genetic sense? If the social construct is good enough for the people discriminating _in favor_ of minorities, why do you expect Nazis to decide that it's not good enough for them to discriminate _against_ minorities?\n\nImagine that you're debating Richard Spencer about his \"peaceful ethnic cleansing\" plan. \"So,\" he says, \"if we deport 10% of Americans based on their skin color, we will reduce the number of murders, rapes, and other violent crime by more than 50%. I, for one, am in favor\".\n\n\"But race isn't real,\" -- you counter.\n\n\"Well, I don't know what do you mean by \"real\", but if we deport those 10%, we will reduce the violent crime by half, and that's as real as it gets,\" -- he responds.\n\n\"But criminality is not genetically determined!\" -- you cry out in exasperation.\n\n\"Debatable, but anyways I'm not sure why am I supposed to care, what I care about is reducing murders and stuff by half. Also, are you implying that if it _were_ genetically determined, then you'd be OK with my plan? Liberals are the real racists, smdh fam\" -- replies Richard Spencer sassily.",
"You should never use the phrase technically speaking. You are full of agendas and pseudo science.",
"\n>My entire point was more of a heads up: if you ever discuss this with, say, a race realist, they will get you on the notion that \"race is a social construct\". It isn't, when talking about fundamental biology, and you should probably add that caveat.\n\nI see what you are saying. My point is that the reason a race realist might argue fundamental biology is precisely to attempt to show some detrimental genetic variation. Discussing the mechanism adds context to this argument and essentially waters it down. Which you obviously understand:\n\n>Totally. No individual sub-group of humanity is \"more\" evolved, whatever the fuck that could mean. None has a higher innate tendency to genetic variation or evolution. Those are dictated by environmental pressures and time. \n\nThe context and mechanism for these changes is heterogeneous. But the groups of people aren't as unique by default.\n\nI appreciate you taking the time to sort this out a bit.",
"I mean, maybe, he was a Christian minister. No one person can be all things to all people. ",
"People don’t ignore hair color, but you also don’t see red-headed males forming solidarity groups because they’re statistically less attractive to women. We can notice these things, but on the list of things that define who we are, skin color should be pretty far down, just like hair color.",
"Medicine doesn't use race because race as a biological concept is useful. They use race because people who identify as a certain race are statistically likely to have their ancestry in a certain geographic location where certain genetic disorders are more common. For example sickle cell anemia is a genetic disorder that is found in western africa, and because that is where most slaves came from during the slave trade, black people in the US are more likely to have that disorder. Note that this isn't because of race, but because of the geographical origins of their ancestors where malaria is more common, and thus they developed the gene for sickle cell anemia which gives a certain resistance to that disease.",
"Cherry picking an article doesn't change anything.\n\n> Second, why do you think that anyone cares about some artificial definition of what would it mean for race to be \"real\" in the biological and genetic sense? If the social construct is good enough for the people discriminating in favor of minorities, why do you expect Nazis to decide that it's not good enough for them to discriminate against minorities?\n\nI never made any claim of the sort. I stated to OP that race as a biological & genetic concept is not supported by evidence. I made no claims regarding social constructs of race, besides pointing out there existence to you.\n\nYou're trying to start an argument out of nothing, fuck off. ",
"\"Female\" is a biological classification and as a noun is generally used in the collective or when talking about animals. \"Woman\" and \"womanhood\" are tied to \"humanity\", and recognizes someone as an individual and not just part of a biological group. \n\nI dont think this is a mistake by the people who started this trend.",
"There really has not been any meaningful definition for any human races, genetically there's just no scientific basis for it at all. \n\n",
"The definition of Female are just the facts. This includes used in a collective or when talking about animals. We are Animals. Creepy and dehumanizing have nothing to do with that, except I guess for your opinion. That however does not make it true and I've never heard of anyone being offended when referred to as Female or Male. ",
"WHITE!",
"The method you're talking about only works for active racism that occurs between individuals. If every person admits that race is a social construct and treats all the other people in their life with dignity and respect, then active individual racism will disappear. \n\nThe problem, though, is that active racism isn't that much of an issue anymore. Racism is systemic at this point. For example, per Ladson-Billings:\n\n\"The Chicago public schools spend about $8,482 annually per pupil, while nearby Highland Park spends $17,291 per pupil. The Chicago public schools have an 87% Black and Latina/o popula- tion, while Highland Park has a 90% White population. Per pupil expenditures in Philadelphia are $9,299 per pupil for the city's 79% Black and Latina/o population, while across City Line Avenue in Lower Merion, the per pupil expenditure is $17,261 for a 91% White population. The New York City public schools spend $11,627 per pupil for a student population that is 72% Black and Latina/o, while suburban Manhasset spends $22,311 for a student population that is 91% White (figures from Kozol, 2005). \"\n\nWhile these funding discrepancies are likely not premeditated/intentional, they still definitely exist and will continue to exist even if no one is acting distinctly racist. Problems like these need to be solved before we can stop thinking about race altogether.\n\nImagine someone broke a window by throwing a rock. Telling everyone to stop throwing rocks will keep other windows from being broken, but it doesn't fix the one that's already been shattered.",
"The population of africa is much more genetically divergent, but I've never heard of these defined as races. Other than maybe some late 19th-early 20th century discredited pseudoscientific racial science.",
"> Cherry picking an article doesn't change anything.\n\nWhat do you mean by cherry picking? I didn't even quote anything. And it was an article you yourself linked. And it actually reflects the scientific consensus as far as I know.\n\n> I stated to OP that race as a biological & genetic concept is not supported by evidence.\n\nWe know that allele frequencies have a strong correlation with the social construct of race and ethnicity. We know that various important traits have a strong correlation with allele frequencies and therefore with race/ethnicity, for example Ashkenazi Jews have about 115 average IQ, compared to whites' 100. We have overwhelming evidence for that sort of things.\n\nWhat we don't have any evidence for is whether race is a biological and genetic concept, because that's a question of definition, how do we define \"biologically real enough\", and there's no definitions in nature, therefore no evidence that some definition is more correct than another _is even possible_.\n\nWhich means that when there's a question of policy, everyone will define race in a way that suits them, and your attempts to convince Nazis that they should your definition of race and then admit that races don't exist and stop being Nazis are doomed to fail. Because you're philosophizing and trying to win through definitions, while they look around and see AA, and people talking about how white people are inherently racists, and nobody letting this \"race isn't real\" nonsense stop them, so why should they either?\n\nImagine that you barge into a discussion about Affirmative Action with a statement that African Americans isn't a biological concept so talking about the statistics of their financial situations is scientifically unsound, so let's just scrap the whole thing. Imagine the looks you get. Imagine just how much nobody would take you seriously at all.\n\nWhy do you think that exactly the same bullshit is going to change the mind of any Nazi or Nazi sympathizer or anyone at all? Everyone is rolling their eyes at your transparent sophistry.\n\n> I made no claims regarding social constructs of race, besides pointing out there existence to you. You're trying to start an argument out of nothing, fuck off.\n\nOh yeah, context isn't real, you wrote a comment with a dozen of citations that you didn't even skim yourself because you were just saying. You weren't trying to say that Nazis are wrong with that, and if some Nazi were to say that OK, let's agree that race has no biological basis for the sake of the argument, they still want a \"peaceful ethnic cleansing\", you'd be, ok, go ahead, I'm only correcting this factual thing here.",
"> There isn’t a single white person that says black lives don’t matter.\n\nWhy?\n\nWhy say that?\n\nSo easily perforated. \n\nhttps://www.city-journal.org/html/some-black-lives-dont-matter-15205.html\n",
"You don't think there are a vast number of people who truly don't give a shit about the pigment of your skin and only really care about the kind of individual you are?",
"Oops. Sorry, I misunderstood. Just ignore me!",
"Well today you learned. \n\nAs a white person, I'm a majority of Celtic origin, this is identified genetically based on shared genetics. Its not a difficult concept, its only the baggage people want to bring along. ",
"Police: What race was the man who took your purse, ma'am?\n\nYou: The human race, you bigot. \n\nAlthough the boundaries are fuzzy, race is still a useful descriptor in real life situations.",
"bright or lotr?\n\nactually same thing, different era",
"Thankfully, we have better predictors than race to work on poverty. If you need to triage, start with poor kids, not minority populations of legal residents and illegal resident aliens. ",
"Then can you give a definition based on biology or genetics of any of these races? ",
"Alright dude, keep ignoring thousands of people then be confused when they're still pissed a decade later.",
"You're right. Taken literally, that statement is incorrect. I'm sure there is at least one legitimately-racist white dude that doesn't care about black lives. \n\nYou know what I was getting at though, I hope. ",
"> It was **always** used to discredit the BLM movement by trying to make it sound like BLM meant white lives didn't matter.\n\nSource?\n",
"I’m going to go ahead and predict they are going to continue to be pissed in a decade if they continue with the intersectionality worldview they’ve maintained for the past 40 years. I’m suggesting we try something new. \n\nDo you predict if we keep teaching what we’re teaching in sociology classes across the country that in 10 years everyone will be happier and more prosperous? All recent history suggests not. ",
"What are you suggesting that hasn't been tried? People have been saying \"it's not a race issue\" since slavery ended.",
"TIL fighting to lift people up to equality based on categories I didn't define but have to live with is racist. Ya know, the right sure does like to ignore reality for a group of people that so frequently argue that liberals don't see things \"the way they are\".",
"Reddit when literally anything happens: \"White people sure are terrible, aren't they?\"",
"My failures to explain and get you away from thinking that recognizing racial divides that exist is in itself racist instead of working with what we have and trying to lift people to equality shouldn't be praised, really. I try to stay calm and friendly, but frustration is frequent.",
"> It did.\n\nNo, it didnt. ",
"Minority groups have never had leaders that encouraged integration and a color blind society. It has to start with them and it’s encouraging to see a picture like OP moving in that direction. Until minority leaders embrace judging people by character instead of their race, nothing will change for anyone. ",
"I'm not talking about the typo; anarcho-capitalism is an oxymoron, so there's no such thing - just letting you know in case you weren't aware! :)",
"\"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today.\"\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Martin_Luther_King_Jr.#Other_theories",
"> but you also don’t see red-headed males forming solidarity groups because they’re statistically less attractive to women\n\nbald men kind of do",
"Yes, that would be great if any minority politician followed that quote and instituted a color blind society. They haven’t done it. They routinely actively work against that quote. ",
"No, I don't. Not in American society. ",
"Okay, diagnosis.\n\n> For example, if someone has a fever, knowing if they're Asian or White won't change whether I ask if they have recently traveled abroad\n\nIf you get a Japanese child with a fever you aren't more likely to think about Kawasaki? (over 2x the incidence). What about an adult with gastric symptoms, if they are Asian are you not more likely to think about stomach cancer? (Again, double the incidence.) What about hot flushes in a middle-aged Japanese woman - clinical diagnosis of menopause or do you want to run bloods to confirm? Hint - Japanese women don't really flush so it might be worth an FSH.\n\nMedical diagnosis isn't a checklist of symptoms, it's a matter of judging the odds. Knowing the racial prevalence of a disease give more accurate odds. You can't ask every question to everybody, there just isn't the time.\n\n> Cultural issues are individual.\n\nOr the opposite. [Cultural : Relating to the ideas, customs, and social behaviour of a society.](https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/cultural) By definition, cultural relates to a group and not an individual. Race is not synonymous with culture but it is closely bound to it. \n\nI'm guessing you're recently qualified or still at med school?",
"Couldn't get to my 9 - 5 on Wednesday; all those \"protesters\" looted my store and set it on fire.",
"Jim Crow: Some individuals are being treated unfairly for a trivial reason\n\nSegregation: see above\n\nBirtherism: It's a stupid fear-mongering tactic\n\nThere, those are all on the individual level",
"School funding is based on local taxes, if the people in the neibhorhood aren't paying taxes and are instead using them in the form of food stamps etc, then there won't be much left for the schools. what we need is trump-like economic policy to reduce black and latino unemployment(lowest in 18 years) so that these areas can become prosperous and thusly their schools will have more tax revenue. Also, legalising and taxing marijuana and ending the burden of the drug war on those communities while raising surplus tax for those schools will help as well. Note none of these policies need strictly talk about race. Because some areas being poorer than others will happen naturally even in a homogenous society and blaming in on \"systemic racism\" wont help you fix the problem.",
"> Genetically speaking we're one species with no subdivisions known as \"races\".\n\nThat's obviously false because there are breeding populations with stable phenotypic differences. Do you think that the reason Han have fused earlobes is due to the environment or their genes? \"Race\" is just a convenient word to describe those populations.",
"Well, I guess if something bad happened to you once, it's impossible for you to have advantages in any other situation. Case closed, everyone, the street moose figured it all out. ",
"I knew you weren’t talking about the typo I was just being cheeky\n\nIt’s a thing",
"“Those departments willing to provide information voluntarily may differ systematically from those that do not,” said Rajiv Sethi, an economist at Barnard College who critiqued Fryer’s study and has called for more data on police encounters with civilians.\n\nIf departments that have less bias and use less force are more likely to share data with researchers, that would tend to make academic findings of bias conservative, “\n\nhttps://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-are-so-many-black-americans-killed-by-police/",
"Was that before or after the police shot out all the windows and fired tear gas into peaceful crowds?",
"/r/incel is that way",
"Yeah I 100% agree about that, it needs the context and shouldn't be dropped like it is.",
"Totally",
"If it's life threatening, then call the EMS. BLM lets them through their crowds as long as it's not an obvious ploy by the cops to break up the crowd. Don't blame others for your own lack of forethought.\n\n>Sure MLK occasionally blocked some traffic or bridges but he mostly marched within the permits for his protest.\n\nMLK literally never got any permits. He tried, but he'd never be granted any. All of his marches were done without any permission from the city.",
"No you are the one with an agenda to deny the continued existence of racism.\n\nYes more studies are needed. The police departments reporting are least likely to have systemic issues. So there is probably even more racism.\n\nYour priorities are fucked.",
"No, they didn't. They weren't granted permits.\n\nShockingly, people gather to march about a lot of things that don't relate to traffic. I know you must find this shocking and hard to believe.",
"I wasn't aware cops were being boiled alive.",
"So if a german kid was raised from birth by a Khoisan tribe, you couldn't tell him apart I take it?",
"\\> getting angry about furries in The Year of Our Lord 2018",
"Good point; the crowds were setting buildings on fire peacefully after looting them.",
">Jim Crow: Some individuals are being treated unfairly for a trivial reason\n\n*Any* trivial reason? Or a particular one?\n\nLet's say my grandpa was thrown out of a store for ordering Pepsi instead of Coke -- was that part of Jim Crow?",
"Just shot by terrorists",
"Don't call me an incel. I also have literally never posted there.",
"Nice try, but i never said racism doesn't exist, just that the reason for the disparity between groups is not so easily explained away as being the fault of racist white cops. ",
"It's not real :(",
"It is at least partially explained and to deny that is to slow progress and continue oppression. No percentage of disparity due to racism is acceptable.",
"Of course not, but you understand the media has invested interest in promoting controversy by misrepresenting these numbers i hope.",
"TIL that 100% of one race has sickle cell trait and no other races have it.\n\nHoly shit, you solved racial descriptors.",
"Why do think geneticists say there aren't different races on a biological level, and race is socially constructed? ",
"Or they could ask, what did he look like? And you can describe him including his color and facial features.",
"Mostly white supremacists and sovereign citizens but hey who cares about those guys amirite?",
"And you would answer a race. Black, white, hispanic, asian etc. Lets not be colorblind here. Different races have different characteristics on average, too. Asians tend to be shorter, black men more naturally athletic etc. ",
"r slash dragonpenises",
"how would you explain away the disparity? no need to dance about trying to be snarky if youre confident about your assertions",
"> There isn’t a single white person that says black lives don’t matter.\n\nAHHAHAHAHAHAAHa",
"This country has a long history of enacting and downplaying racism in the media.",
"I am confident. The sickle cell trait isn't present in every black person. And it is present in non-black people.\n\nTell me again how it is a useful trait to determine race.\n\nThere is no gene that determines race. [Race is a social construct.](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-construct-scientists-argue/) \n\n\n\n",
"If you think your race is Celtic then I think you are conflating ethnic origins with race and have been influenced by old discredited race-science theories that people like the nazis were great proponents of. \n\nCelts are definitely not a race. Historical Celts were mostly defined by linguistics and cultural practices, and these have been demonstrated to have been spread to otherwise genetically different peoples, the same can be said about the germanic peoples and the various interactions between Germanic, Celtic and Slavic peoples in Europe. \n\nThe modern \"Celtic\" genetic definition is more defined by geographic origin than cultural historic origin. Do you think you have more in common with historical Celtic Galatians in central Turkey than modern Turks in that area do? We do have certain tracers that can genetically link them to the western celts but overall they are clearly not distinct in the same way. \n\nRace in the modern sense is a social construct. Ethnicity, while influenced by linguistics and culture, has more of a base in genetics than race does. I.E Irish and Welsh have more of a base of being defined as different ethnicities as seen in genetics and culture linked by a broader cultural and linguistic celtic ancestry than they do of being some \"Celtic race\" defined by physical attributes and genes.",
"Pharmaceuticals interact differently with people correlating with racial characteristics so it’s actually really important",
"TEEEEEEhehehehehe",
"And a more recent history of exaggerating it or omitting context. The irony is that the public outrage against the racist cop problem is actually leading to situation where police militarization is justified, e.g. Ferguson, Baltimore, officers shot in Dallas, etc. In other words the backlash against police is making the police into a bigger problem.",
"\"Let me tell you what you actually saw, even though you were there and I wasn't\" - /u/GearyDigit, SRS brigader ",
"Oh gawd police militarization is never justified. You are a victim blaming racist.",
"You miss my point, but ok.",
"Disagreeing with your point does not mean I missed it.",
"turn that frown upside down...",
"I dont want militarized police. I believe we are living in something close to a police state already, but riots and looting scare the public and justify police militarization in the public eye so the problem gets worse. The media promotes this chaos with one hand so our overlords can tighten their grip with the other. You understand now? ",
"Hopefully they are bad aliens, right?",
"https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur",
"No. Stop misrepresenting what I'm saying. What I meant was that people are being treated unfairly for a trivial reason, race",
"Yep, its a sleazy tactic, but that's what they do. Wish more people were wise to it.",
"The overlords are overtly racist and I almost prefer that to your sneaky bullshit",
">The level of genetic diversity across \"races\" isn't high enough to classify different groups as distinct biological categories\n\nHow do you know? \n\n>Also, it's unreliable, as people from different races often share more in common genetically than two people from the same race.\n\nThat's true of men and women too. Do you think the words \"man\" and \"woman\" should be discouraged? ",
"I don't judge anyone based on skin color, that would be you, remember?",
"The standard immigrant concerns, plus fears of the mafia and mistrust of papists (i.e. Catholics). Even up until JFK, people *still* didn't believe that a Catholic could ever become president, let alone that he could be trusted to act in the best interests of the US instead of the Vatican.",
"I don’t know your skin color. I’m judging you based on your (racist as all fuck) comments and priorities.\n\nSaying white people need to fix their racist systems is just acknowledging history and reality.",
"Not sure if you're just living up to your username or you're phenomenally stupid. ",
"\"Multiple incidents.\"\n\n[cites zero]\n\n>Guess why they couldn't?\n\nBecause there were hundreds of people behind him and he was frequently traveling.",
"[citation needed]",
"As if white people all get together at secret meetings to keep the other races down. None of use were alive to create the problem as it exists today. If you are American, then these problems belong to you as well. Start looking for solutions to real problems instead of going around trying to make average everyday working white people apologize for something they have no control over.",
"\\> [/r/KiwiFarms](https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/)",
"They do! It’s called the government! It’s called half the industries we have! It’s in publishing! White people cause problems *today*. The US is having a fucking nazi resurgence *today*.\n\nI am solving the problem of people like you commenting without recourse.",
"Black people are in government and industry and publishing also. I could just as easily make some stupid generalization and say black people cause problems today. ",
"They dont",
"Name one racist policy the right wants to enforce. \n\nJust one. \n\nI'll wait. ",
"This deflection of guilt is not making things better for everyone to the point that I don’t believe that’s what you actually want. Saying “things are going to take a while to even out” is a passive excuse. Working class whites are victims of the government, like everyone, and they still benefit from the even deeper victimization of every non-white ethnicity. This is the legacy whites have inherited.",
"From the Annals of Internal Medicine:\n\nhttp://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/710064/medicalization-race-scientific-legitimization-flawed-social-construct\n\nThe term “race” has many definitions, ranging from a family unit to a species, but in common and medical usage, defining “race” has meant separating Homo sapiens into three to six groups.This division of Homo sapiens into race taxons started in the 18th century, when the sciences of genetics and evolutionary biology were not yet invented. These disciplines have since shown that human race taxonomy has no scientific basis. Race categories are social constructs, that is, concepts created from prevailing social perceptions without scientific evidence. Despite modern proof that race is arbitrary biological fiction, racial taxons are still used widely in medical teaching, practice, and research. Human diversity is inconsistently taught in medical schools and erratically presented in medical texts. Race taxons have been “medicalized”; that is, race groupings have been legitimized by their use in medical literature and practice as acceptable descriptive labels that are integral to the proper diagnosis and treatment of disease in humans. Assumptions about disease that are made because a race has been assigned can result in important negative consequences for individual patients and inaccurate genetic inferences for populations.\n\nIn contrast, ethnicity is a concept that incorporates social, religious, linguistic, dietary, and other variables to identify individual persons and populations.Ethnicity may be able to impart clinical clues to diagnosis if the clinician taking the history is well informed and open minded. Ethnic boundaries are dynamic and imprecise, and a strict methodical approach to ethnicity that is equal to the approach required for the study of other variables is necessary if the concept of ethnicity is to be clinically useful.",
"You aren't offering any real solution but just turning the us vs them into white vs blacks which is a losing strategy. BLM is great at preaching to the choir, but has lost the support of the general public because the message has become toxic.",
"The general public has always disrespected civil rights movements until after the fact. That disrespect of rights necessitated that movement in the first place.",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rzjmv/comment/dt1avtr?st=JCR1JVAZ&sh=ea56c39f",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rzjmv/comment/dt1awf9?st=JCR1KULD&sh=5ce684c1",
"It’s clear to me that you don’t want solutions, only to deflect blame.",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rzjmv/comment/dt1azmx?st=JCR1MBVH&sh=7909f801",
">Yes, because we don't have any scientific definition.\n\nWe do, but it's used with caution because there isn't a consensus on the definition \n\nhttps://www.nature.com/articles/ng1455\n\nhttp://muse.jhu.edu/article/48157/pdf\n\n>There are functional differences that make that categorization significant. The fact that two people of the same sex cannot procreate is not up for interpretation.\n\nThere are significant differences between races, as a whole, that make the distinction useful. For example, Cystic fibrosis is more common among Norther Europeans. \n\n>Doesn't mean it's not a social construct. [...] You keep arguing about the \"right\" way to define race, without realizing that even having this argument is supporting the point that it's a social construct.\n\nThe word to describe the category was made up, and the boundaries of the category are conceptual, but the differences between categories are empirically testable. \n\n>Just because someone calls it a fallacy doesn't mean it's actually one.\n\nI agree that calling it a fallacy is too strong. It should be called something like \"Lewontin's Genetic Problem.\"\n\n>According to Edward's criticism, we should therefore have different races for people who have blue eyes and brown eyes, because there are localized clusters based on where you are in the world. It's still arbitrary that you select based on visible features.\n\nThere is a point beyond which the number and degree of biological differences between human populations is great enough to warrant a category to a) facilitate identifying each group instead of having to describe them every time. Imagine if people objected to the use of dog breed names and you had to describe a dog breed every time you wanted to talk about it; b) facilitate the treatment of medical conditions; and c) better understand why some populations do better or worse at certain tasks, or what their average behavioral tendencies might be for social, political, and ethical research. If we pretend that significant differences don't exist, that comes with its own set of problems, like misunderstanding differences in outcome across populations as stemming only from culture or other factors unrelated to biology, which may (and has before) lead to harmful social, political, and ethical beliefs. ",
"It's clear you don't want solutions, only to lay blame.",
"See my other comments where I actually presented solutions unlike you.",
"Those bullshit solutions do nothing to help real people. lol \"confront the racism deep inside you and think real hard about your colonizer ancestors.\" If you want to talk about about police reform then do it. If you want to talk about fixing the school system then do so. You think you are helping when you only add to the vitriol and toxic American social climate. Truly sad how misplaced your intentions are.",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rzjmv/comment/dt19617?st=JCR3CX9F&sh=1f2144a9",
"Hold cops who murder anyone, regardless of race, accountable. But also don't pretend like every police use of force is some horrible injustice when most of them are warranted.",
"Don’t minimize the flagrantly unnecessary uses of force:\n\nhttps://www.theroot.com/white-men-cant-murder-why-white-cops-are-immune-to-the-1796309966",
"I can link to articles on the internet too. \nhttp://www.nationalreview.com/article/449505/police-shootings-black-men-race-not-reason-causal-effect",
"All of which is irrelevant. You said this:\n\n> No, we can't agree because you would literally be changing the meaning of the word \"race\". Words have meanings, you don't get to just change them on a whim. It makes no more sense than saying \"ONE WAFFLE: HUMAN\"\n\n> There's a lot of words available, use them to describe what you want to do instead of trying to change them.\n\nDo you remember saying that? You see, the fact that one of the 11 definitions on that page is a suitable definition for the way it's being used here, means your point is wrong. We don't need to change the definition because an appropriate definition is already right there in the dictionary.\n\nThe remaining other definitions don't change anything about that fact. Does that make sense? How is this not obvious?",
"Video evidence still isn’t enough to get an officer convicted\n\nhttps://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/17/us/black-deaths-police.html",
"I'm sorry, i can't read that one because it's behind a paywall. I'm sure it has a good point, and like I said we should hold police accountable when they kill without reason. We are on the same side on that issue.",
"They kill black people without reason at higher rates than they kill white people without reason",
"None of what you have shown me explicitly shows that.",
"Congratulations to you! ",
"https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/17/15985442/minneapolis-police-shooting-justine-damond-video\n\nVery different outcome when it’s a white woman",
"http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-black-victims-justice-justine-damond-article-1.3354520",
"Besides the obvious ones that have existed: laws allowing slavery, disallowing black people the right to vote, and jim crow laws\n\nLots of modern variants of these exist. Black people have been discriminated against in pretty much any type of housing arrangement you can think of. Look up redlining. Voter id laws discriminate against the poor and rural voters generally but disproportionately affect POC. Everything about the war on drugs, from the fact that Nixon intentionally started it to harass black communities (listen to the recordings, they're easily searchable on youtube), to the fact that black people are arrested at a far higher rate for drug possession while they use at roughly the same rate as white people, to the fact that mandatory minimums are set far higher on comparable drugs that black people use (crack and cocaine i npoweder form are the same substance, but crack carries a far longer sentence).\n\nMany explicitly racist laws have been overturned in the last century and a half, don't get me wrong, I'm proud of the progress our society has made. But a mix of seemingly innocuous laws coupled w/ discriminatory social, policing, legal, etc. behaviors leads to serious negative effects for minorities.",
"Yes, different ethnicities look different. No one claimed otherwise. The science is that beyond those cosmetic differences (which can be and are influenced by environment), there's no significant biological difference between a man from Africa and a man from Europe. Skin color and the other physically features we associate with ethnicity are mostly correlated with distance from the equator and other environmental factors. ",
"You can send me individual stories about different incidences all day, and it still won't mean anything about any broader trend. These are just data points. The problem is you are confusing correlation and causation. ",
"Pass.",
"I shouldn't even reply to this because it's clear that you're more interested in keeping your racist biases instead of learning some basic biology. However: \n \nJust because there are differences between different groups of people doesn't mean they fit your preconceived notions of what race is. If we look at biology/genetics, then there is no such thing as different races. Genetically someone from your Khoisan tribe and a black person from Mali are significantly more different than someone from Mali and your German kid. Yet you consider the Khoesan and the Malian to be the same race and the German kid to be a completely different one. \n \nTo answer your question, yes, you could tell apart a german kid raised from birth by a Khoisan tribe, as he would likely have paler skin. Just like you could tell apart an adopted ginger brown eyed kid in a family of blue eyed blond Germans. But these are completely arbitrary and genetically meaningless (as a way to divide humans into lesser taxonomic ranks - which don't exist anyway). \n \nTo add to this, as /u/bard_parahumans said, the racial division is genetically useless, as there is no meaningful significance between different \"races\" of people to warrant further division beneath subspecies. The lowest taxonomic rank for all animals is subspecies, and all humans are already the same subspecies. Even if you could make further divisions (and you could do it for some animals, though it would be of very limited use), you still couldn't go beneath subspecies for humans as there is simply not enough genetic variation for it to be a meaningful division. \n \nAnd even if you could, it would in no way correspond to what you consider to be the \"black race\" or the \"asian race\" or the \"white race\" or whichever. Because the way you (and everyone else) differentiate races is based completely on cultural and historical circumstances, not genetics. Races are very real - culturally. Genetically, no.\n",
"> You don't understand what the International code of Zoological nomenclature is. It is a naming system, not a determination of what is or is not a valid classification.\n\nThe ICZN is both a naming system and also a determinant of valid classifications. The names are made up of many names of different taxonomic ranks - first there the domain, then kingdom, then phylum etc all the way down to family, genus, species and subspecies. \n\n>Race is synonymous with sub-species and fits into the nomenclature.\n\nRace is not synonymous with sub-species but the way it is used by non-biologists is near synonymous with sub-species. You would not write a scientific paper about biology and use the term \"race\" as a synonym for sub-species. \n\n>Subspecies classification is subjective\n\nOnly to the extent that it is debated whether neanderthals were a distinct species or a subspecies. No biological organisation argues that human races could be considered subspecies, not since gene sequencing became a thing at least. \n\nBut this matter can be very simply settled - all you have to do is tell me the scientific name of the subspecies that correlates to the each race, and which biological organisation recognises it. (That would be the first time in this comment chain you have included a source or made a specific, verifiable reference to mainstream biological theories.)\n\n\n>Different subcategories withing the sub-saharan african racial category.\n\nWhat is the definition of the \"Sub-saharan African racial category?\" There isn't one, because you've made it up based on no characteristic other than skin colour.\n\nMy point is that the closest thing we have to races are genetic clusters. Depending on how much variance you tolerate in your cluster, than can by any number of these. But the thing is, because humans evolved in Africa and then small numbers migrated elsewhere, the greatest genetic diversity is in Sub-Saharan Africa. If we were to split humans up into genetic clusters, most of the clusters are in Sub-Saharan Africa. \n\n>Although the study's main focus was on Africa, Tishkoff and her colleagues studied DNA markers from around the planet, identifying 14 \"ancestral clusters\" for all of humanity. Nine of those clusters are in Africa. \n\n-http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/30/AR2009043002485.html?hpid=moreheadlines\n\n\nWhy group the Hadza and Mbuti together in one racial category and not include Europeans? Because they share about the same level of genetic differences - if you randomly picked 1 person from each group, there is a good chance that the European and the Hadza are more similar to each other than either is to the Mbuti. So why did you group the Hadza and Mbuti together as one race, but not the European? Clearly it isn't genes that define race in your view, but skin colour. \n\nDistinct refers to the groupings- there is enough of a difference between Hadza and Khoikhoi etc for them to be considered a distinct **group,** even though each individual is of course distinct. Hence why I referred to groups when using \"distinct\"",
"(the other comment got caught by the spam filter I think)\n\nAnd also, since I've been criticizing your approach but never said what I think the right approach is:\n\n>> also, as far as I can tell, lots of the criticism of the Bell Curve is of the form ‘well, if it were true that ‘intelligence’ exists and affects life outcomes and that different groups had different average intelligence, then segregation and slavery and white supremacy would be justified; therefore, Murray, by arguing that intelligence exists and affects life outcomes and so on, supports segregation and slavery and white supremacy’.\n\n>> Which.\n\n>> Fuck that.\n\n>> It is intensely dangerous to equate ‘more intelligence’ with ‘having more moral worth’. It is intensely dangerous to equate ‘more intelligence’ with ‘deserving of more political power’. But Murray doesn’t do that! Murray’s critics do that - and worse, they don’t even argue it, they just take it absolutely for granted, they just swallow it up as a starting assumption, always present, never acknowledged - ‘if it were true that ‘intelligence’ existed and predicted life outcomes and varied between groups, then we would all have to become white supremacists’, they say, ‘therefore Murray, who argued for that thesis, is a white supremacist’. They never dream of challenging the assumption that intelligence, if it existed, would justify treating some people as more morally worthy than others; they resort to insisting that it couldn’t exist.\n\n>> I disagree with Murray on a bunch of stuff - I think his reasoning on welfare lacks compassion and isn’t very clearly considered - but he does not scare me, because none of his theses, if they are true, change the fact that everyone who has experiences deserves good experiences, that you do not need to earn moral worth by earning lots of money, and that everyone matters no matter what population statistics turn up about them. \n\n>> My principles are not conditional on the results of IQ tests, and so I am not afraid of anyone doing IQ tests; yours probably aren’t either, if you actually think about it, and so while it’s reasonable to be afraid that other people’s principles are contingent on the results of IQ tests it is not reasonable to condemn the testing while you accept and even reinforce the contingentness. \n",
"I don’t have the resources to count and get you percentages. My point is that in the case of a white person being shot, she got very swift justice, the likes of which have not been seen in any case with black people. Maybe if the chief of police has stepped down in Ferguson there wouldn’t have been a riot.\n\nIgnore all the evidence you want. I don’t think anything would be good enough for your racist ass anyway.",
"That's not evidence. It's how you feel. It's your bias.",
"Don't be obtuse, clearly the definition of race being used in that context was the one referring to ethnicity.",
"Interesting. While I'd never dispute that there are a ton of people who do judge based on skin color, I believe myself, my brother and all of my closest friends don't really care if you are white, brown, black or yellow. We like or dislike YOU, not your color. \n\nWe also believe stereotypes apply to the group, not the individual, because we understand basic logic. We believe that there is no way that any single societal ill can be isolated to color. Every issue is way more complex than pigment.",
"Right!",
"Sure the second part about Ferguson is conjecture. But you’re just throwing out cases that don’t support your agenda. Your double think-police state is bad but not racist-is the biggest stumbling block against justice, the apathetic white moderate.",
"You are claiming that blacks are being targeted and killed by racist cops for no reason at a rate significantly higher than whites. When you make a claim, its on you to provide evidence. Not me to prove the inverse. The data shows a difference in the rates but says nothing about a reason for it. You assume something with no evidence and call names when someone challenges your dogma. ",
">there's no significant biological difference\n\nExcept there is. Genetics is what changes our phenotype. A german kid born and raised in South Africa isn't going to look like a khoisan. Race is not cultural. If an alien race came down and studied humans, do you really think they wouldn't classify humans according to phenotype in much the same way we have?",
"1. I double majored in biology and racism\n2. A khoisan person is a capoid, a person from mali is a congoid. Of course they're different. They're separate races. And no, I don't consider them the same race. What you're trying to do is say there can't be a scientific classification of race, because some folk classification is wrong. Lot's of folk classifications of plants are biologically wrong, you wouldn't then say that a scientific classification of those same place is also wrong.\n3. You and I could both tell a khoisan child and a german child apart, even if they were both albinos. The facial structures are completely different, the hair is different. Don't pretend like it's just skin color. \n4. Your ginger brown eye'd thing has no relevance. \n5. Define meaningful. Different races have different rates of disease and health problems that are biological in nature. Different races are more suited to living in different parts of the world. That seems meaningful to me. Even if it isn't meaningful, by the way you mean it, that doesn't make it a cultural classification. The races are different because of genetic differences between them. \n6. The race is all cultural thing is just something dreamt up to argue against racists. It's the same way it was suddenly decided homosexuality was a born trait, because then you couldn't argue it was a moral failing. If you want people to not be racist, make a moral argument against it. Don't pretend caucasoid people aren't really real.",
"> Race is not synonymous with sub-species but the way it is used by non-biologists is near synonymous with sub-species. You would not write a scientific paper about biology and use the term \"race\" as a synonym for sub-species.\n\nFrom the wikipedia page:\n\n> A taxonomist decides whether to recognize a subspecies or not. A common way to decide is that organisms belonging to different subspecies of the same species are capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring, but they do not usually interbreed in nature due to geographic isolation, sexual selection, or other factors. The differences between subspecies are usually less distinct than the differences between species.\n\nRaces fit perfectly into that category. They are capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring, but they do not usually interbreed.\n\n> No biological organisation argues that human races could be considered subspecies, not since gene sequencing became a thing at least.\n\nSo? I already explained that it's because of taboo. \n\nWhat major organisations say is irrelevant. Just look at the definitions of the words.\n\n> My point is that the closest thing we have to races are genetic clusters. Depending on how much variance you tolerate in your cluster, than can by any number of these. But the thing is, because humans evolved in Africa and then small numbers migrated elsewhere, the greatest genetic diversity is in Sub-Saharan Africa. If we were to split humans up into genetic clusters, most of the clusters are in Sub-Saharan Africa.\n\nIf you agree to this, then you agree that races exist, and you've conceded the point.\n\n> Why group the Hadza and Mbuti together in one racial category and not include Europeans?\n\nThey shouldn't be. You just said two racial categories: Hadza and Mbuti. Those are racial categories.\n\n> if you randomly picked 1 person from each group, there is a good chance that the European and the Hadza are more similar to each other than either is to the Mbuti.\n\nOk, thanks for the genetic info.\n\n> So why did you group the Hadza and Mbuti together as one race, but not the European? Clearly it isn't genes that define race in your view, but skin colour.\n\nI never did.\n\nRaces are based on genetics, not appearance. The thing is - usually they correlate. Not always, though. But who said they always did?\n\nAll you're saying is that we're learning more about racial categories as science progresses. The fact that we even know this info shows that biologists are studying it lmao\n\n\"biologists don't use the concept of race, but here's a bunch of info showing that biologists studied race to show that it is more granular than we think\"\n\nlol, dude what are you even saying?",
"(this is fucking pathetic)",
"I agree with all of this. I wonder why the voting is so skewed for my comment as compared to yours. ",
"Warrior, Rogue, Mage, Healer etc?",
"If you believe this then you are either not an evolutionary biology teacher, or just a shit one.\n\nIt has been proven time and time again that there is no genetic basis for race.",
">While I'd never dispute that there are a ton of people who do judge based on skin color, I believe myself, my brother and all of my closest friends don't really care if you are white, brown, black or yellow. We like or dislike YOU, not your color.\n\nThat's just absurd. Everyone thinks \"yea yea, other people do it, but certainly not ME.\"\n\nThinking/believing that you can disregard race is a different thing than actually being able to do it. Are there people out there who can? Maybe. But I assure you that you are not surrounded by half a dozen of such people. ",
"If the privilege was based on skin color, that wouldn't happen.",
"You have a different idea of equality, equality of outcome, I believe in equality of opportunity, and legally that latter one exists. And yes you are racist by the reality, go case by case on character, not color by color. Broad strokes are for bad folks.",
"I recognize that racial divides exist and that treating people differently from each other based on the color of their skin does nothing to help that. Lifting people up is not the same as lowering other people. ",
"He doesn't think illegal immigrants aren't human. He thinks they shouldn't come in illegally.\n\nSe how non-challenging the sign is now?",
"One race. Human. But let's not pretend we can just ignore reality. You're getting off topic and I honestly don't think you're replying for any reason but to argue at this point. I don't honestly care what you think of me, but I do know that you're wrong. Shrug.",
"I didn't advocate for different treatment lol you're mental. I can't even keep up the nice face anymore, bugger off",
"Hell yeah. ",
"You absolutely did lol, I know it's been a day or so but you shouldn't forget whay you've done so quickly.",
"Not really wrong at all. I treat people the same no matter what color they are, which makes us different. You're wrong by an egalitarian and MLK type view. But right by a regressive or harsh progressive view.",
"You seem to be ignoring reality but whatever sweet pea.",
"Given all of [these](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2015/08/racial_disparities_in_the_criminal_justice_system_eight_charts_illustrating.html) discrepancies that *are* about race, it is dangerous to downplay and minimize the racism in the discrepancies in police brutality, especially considering the likely biases in self reporting police districts.",
"No u",
"I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you would rather I not decide you are too compromised by your trauma to have any interest in logic, i.e. the reality of cause and effect. How then, do you propose that your abusive home life, presumably in the absence of individuals of any other races, has any bearing on whether people and institutions can extend you privilege on the basis of your race right now? \n\nNo one is making the case that white privilege is some kind of magic armor. The most fundamental aspect of white privilege is that you have the option of presenting as normal, default, and status quo. You have the option of making a first impression. In most situations, your race is not a factor. The same cannot be said for any person of color in most situations. Being subject to privilege doesn't mean that you are impervious to harm or living in luxury. More than anything, it means that race is not a relevant aspect of your experience unless you choose it to be. Again, many people do not have that privilege. ",
"Sounds like you ain't doing anything to at least try and better yourself as a person. Why the hell would anyone want to help someone as ignorant as you no matter what their creed or color. ",
"Well then why didn't you say that to start with? Is it because you're scrambling for an argument? Anyway my response to your new position is, clearly it's a play on words where both meanings are coming into play.\n\nAlso, you're the one using poor reasoning, I'm just explaining the painfully obvious. I get the sense you're only arguing about this because you disagree with the message.",
"And he accepts the endorsements of white supremacists and fails to convincingly denounce them when they commit hate crimes. Oh, and there's the fact that he's kept a copy of Mein Kampf beside his bed, and his pardon of Joe Arpaio, and the fact that he says he's a \"gene believer\", which is pretty obviously code for... well, why don't you figure it out from the context?\n\nFace it, it's not just his position on illegal immigrants that places him squarely in the racist asshole camp. You can't defend him and maintain a shred of intellectual integrity. Stop trying.",
" >I get the sense you're only arguing about this because you disagree with the message.\n\nI disagree with the wording not the message.",
"> That's just absurd. Everyone thinks \"yea yea, other people do it, but certainly not ME.\"\n\nThat's not true at all. There are whole swaths of people that straight out admit that they don't like people of different color, whether they are black, brown or white. Tons of white people flat out say they don't like minorities. Tons of black people flat out say they don't like white people.\n\n> Thinking/believing that you can disregard race is a different thing than actually being able to do it. Are there people out there who can? Maybe. But I assure you that you are not surrounded by half a dozen of such people.\n\nMaybe it comes down to at what level you mean by \"disregard race\". Seeing people on the street, you can infer a lot of things about them based on general appearance and race. That doesn't make you racist, it means you understand stereotypes. But if you like them less based on pigment, that makes you a racist.\n\nMy group that I mentioned is mostly white, but we have many black and hispanic friends and/or lovers. I can assure you that I don't like or dislike someone based on the color of their skin, but instead by if they are a dick or not.\n\nIt's funny that where I work there is a disproportionate ratio of blacks to whites compared to the local population (as well as women to men). Talking with some of of my black friends who work here, they think the most racist people here are black people towards other black people, especially towards women. When a black woman gets a job in the IT department, other black employees give them the side eye, say they must have only got the job because they are black and assume the woman in IT thinks they are better than the others because they make more money now. It's one of the weirdest racial dynamics I see in the professional world. People fight for equality, complain about inequality, but tear down the people who are making things more equal.\n\n",
"> I double majored in biology and racism\n\nWell I certainly believe the second part. \n \n>A khoisan person is a capoid, a person from mali is a congoid. \n \nlol \n \nWhen did you major, 1913? I recommend you renew your major. \n \n>You and I could both tell a khoisan child and a german child apart, even if they were both albinos. The facial structures are completely different, the hair is different. Don't pretend like it's just skin color. \n \nCompletely and utterly irrelevant. If you can't connect the sentences I wrote than that's on you. \n \n>Your ginger brown eye'd thing has no relevance. \n \nSure does. Both those two and skin color are arbitrary traits that can not be used to make new taxons. Yes, this also applies to \"facial structure and hair\" \n \n>Define meaningful. Different races have different rates of disease and health problems that are biological in nature. Different races are more suited to living in different parts of the world. That seems meaningful to me. \n \nNone of that is meaningful enough to create new taxonomic ranks. There is differences between every two populations. If you want to use that standard, then there is about a few million different races. \n \nThe way you see race doesn't exist. \n \n>Even if it isn't meaningful, by the way you mean it, that doesn't make it a cultural classification. The races are different because of genetic differences between them. \n \nIt's a cultural classification because it's wholly based on societal and historical circumstances. Who is and isn't white is determined by where you live and what time you live in. Not on biology. \n \n1. There are no genetic differences that correspond to what people consider to be different races, \n2. There is no scientific acceptance of the concept of race. \n \n> The race is all cultural thing is just something dreamt up to argue against racists. It's the same way it was suddenly decided homosexuality was a born trait, because then you couldn't argue it was a moral failing. If you want people to not be racist, make a moral argument against it. Don't pretend caucasoid people aren't really real. \n \nlol. Well at least you admit you're racist.",
"Okay.",
">Completely and utterly irrelevant. If you can't connect the sentences I wrote than that's on you.\n\nIt's relevant because you want to reduce white to the skin color, rather than all the phenotypic differences. Like you did here:\n\n>Sure does. Both those two and skin color are arbitrary traits that can not be used to make new taxons. Yes, this also applies to \"facial structure and hair\"\n\nLike you did right here\n\n>There is differences between every two populations. If you want to use that standard, then there is about a few million different races.\n\nExcept there aren't really enough phenotypic differences to classify a german and a polish person separately. Even if there were, they would be in subclassifications below our current racial classification. It wouldn't be a million equally distant branches.\n\n>Who is and isn't white is determined by where you live and what time you live in. Not on biology.\n\nWho is and isn't white is determined by their heritage and nothing else. \n\n>There are no genetic differences that correspond to what people consider to be different races,\n\nAre you ridiculous enough to believe that the difference in appearances between the races aren't caused by genetic differences? \n\n>There is no scientific acceptance of the concept of race.\n\nThere is, it's just usually talked about in different terms. Race fell out of fashion because it became socially unacceptable to use that term. It's the same way they aryan hypothesis wasn't disproven, they just changed the name to proto-indoeuropean. Still the exact same hypothesis, just a new label. Besides, you're a commie, why do you care if things have academic acceptance? There's no acceptance of marxist economic theory among economists, but I doubt you'd let that affect you.\n\n>lol. Well at least you admit you're racist.\n\nLearn reading comprehension? I never said I was a racist. I base my egalitarianism on my morality. The problem with dudes like you is, being atheists, you can't base egalitarianism in anything unless you pretend classifications of people have no basis in reality. You need race to not exist, otherwise you have no response to nazis. ",
"See I've heard it presented as a magic armor pretty much 100% of the time. And no, everybody has the chance to appear status quo, that's not based on skin color. Either way, treating people differently based on their skin color is racist.",
"Then by definition it can't be a social construct if it is a direct cause of physical attributes. An example of a social construct is maybe 'men are the bread winners'. Here the only thing making men bread winners is society constructing it that way. There's nothing in the definition of 'man' that dictates they be the bread winners. \nNot an example of a social construct is the tautology 'black people are of black race'. Here, the reason we say they are of black race in the first place is because by definition people of black race are black. The only qualifier to be of black race is one being black. ",
"You’ve proven my point. Race is just a way to separate people by skin color when it has no actual physical reason to exist. Sure, white people have lighter skin than black people, but that’s basically where the differences end. There’s no real reason to have a concept of race except so that society can divide the populace up and make different races hate each other.",
"I think we've a difference in definitions. You seem to be focused on what race entails. I'm talking about it in of itself.",
"> You can acknowledge that someone is a different race than you without treating them differently \n\nGreetings person of a different skin color today, how are you going? \n\nLike whats the fucking point? Treat people like equal human beings and don't make their skin color change what you think of them, it's so simple. Just because you don't call someone blacky or DAWG doesn't mean you are ignoring their heritage.",
"Our point is the same. Don’t treat people different based on their appearance but still be aware that they have a different heritage or culture than you",
"You've heard it. Doesn't mean anyone said it. Most people who are triggered by the mention of white privilege and walk around saying, \"Oh, everyone hates white men now\" are not responding to anything close to what the world is actually telling you. Drop the siege mentality and try listening - not scanning for attacks, but listening.",
"Sorry I just saw your reply. Anarchism as a political philosophy is explicitly anti state and anti hierarchy. Because capitalism is pro hierarchy, so anarcho-capitalism is an oxymoron.",
"Believe whatever you want. ",
"I’m cool with hierarchy as long as it’s voluntary",
"By actual content you mean just another half-baked excuse for reparations that only applies to White and Black people.",
"Yep I am listening, and if you're not proposing treating people differently then you're not doing anything, and acknowledgement is useless without action.",
">black power fist\n\nReminds me if the rainbow swatstika they tried to roll out a while ago",
"No it's not.",
"Sounds like someone needs to see a shrink.",
"Sounds like you got shrink dick lil boy",
"Sounds like you got shrink credit score",
"I don't believe for a second you are an \"evolutionary biologist\", maybe an armchair one.",
"Nobody learned anything from you. You've refused to actually *define* any of these races based on biology or genetics like you claimed to be able to.",
"That's what I thought. ",
"Nice mesage you got there. It would be a shame if the media would make people look the other way... ",
"Put it this way: the closest thing we have to race is subspecies, but there's only 1 extant human subspecies. The second closest thing we have to race is genetic clusters. But there's 9 of those in Africa alone. \n\n\nRace is used to mean skin colour. For example [when you said](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7rzjmv/the_one_real_message_we_should_all_get_behind/dt1rknl?context=10)\n\n> \"black\" and \"white\" people are not subspecies.\n\n>>Sub-saharan African and European are, though. And that's what \"black\" and \"white\" means.\n\n\nWhich you then denied saying in the comment I am now replying to\n\n\nBut there are 9 \"races\" that all share black skin. So making racial judgements based on skin colour doesn't reflect the biological reality.",
"> But there are 9 \"races\" that all share black skin. So making racial judgements based on skin colour doesn't reflect the biological reality.\n\nDude, are you fucking with me?\n\nYou just said there are 9 races that share black skin. \n\nSo... if you found someone with black skin you would be able to judge that they belong to one of those 9 races, right...?!?!\n\nAnd if those 9 races are similar to each other when compared to Europeans, then you can group them together at another level...\n\nIt's like you're saying that there's many types of cats so we can't differentiate between cats and dogs.\n\nYou're just twisting yourself in circles in an attempt to win on some sort of a technicality. Why can't you just think rationally? Everything you say contradicts your point.\n\n\"Biologists don't care about race, but there's 9 races in Africa that all share the same skin color, but skin color has nothing to do with race!\"",
">> But there are 9 \"races\" that all share black skin. So making racial judgements based on skin colour doesn't reflect the biological reality.\n>\n>Dude, are you fucking with me?\n>\n>You just said there are 9 races that share black skin. \n\nI said \"races\" in scare quotes to signify that they're not really races but they're kinda close.\n\n>So... if you found someone with black skin you would be able to judge that they belong to one of those 9 races, right...?!?!\n>\n>And if those 9 races are similar to each other when compared to Europeans, then you can group them together at another level...\n\nIf.\n\n\nWhat evidence do you have that they are more similar to each other than Europeans?\n\nLike I said, if you took 1 person from one African genetic clusters, and another person from another African genetic cluster, and compared them to a third person from a European genetic cluster, there's a good chance that the two African's are genetically more similar to the European than to each other. \n[\\(\"This finding implies that Africans differ on average more among themselves than from Eurasians\"\\)](http://www.genetics.org/content/161/1/269)\n\n\n Again out are just showing that you believe race to by synonymous with skin colour, rather than Allelle frequencies or genetic sequencing. Which it isn't.\n\nSkin colour is controlled by a tiny number of genes. It's not a good measure of overall genetic similarity.\n\n\n\n>\"Biologists don't care about race, but there's 9 races in Africa that all share the same skin color, but skin color has nothing to do with race!\"\n\n\nIf skin colour is shared by multiple \"races\", you can't use skin colour to make an accurate racial judgement (even if it was a good indicator of overall genetic diversity). You can at most narrow it down to 9 \"races.\" That's not how race is commonly thought of in our society, thus even if we do accept a biological definition of race it is not the same as the social construct of race.\n\n",
"> I said \"races\" in scare quotes to signify that they're not really races but they're kinda close.\n\nI would define those genetic clusters as races or sub-races. It's pretty arbitrary which word you use.\n\n> What evidence do you have that they are more similar to each other than Europeans?\n\nThey aren't necessarily more similar, but they can be clustered. [Ex 1](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1180234/). [Ex 2](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1828730/pdf/1471-2164-8-68.pdf).\n\nIt was my mistake to say they were more similar. You are right, they might not be more similar. The point is the nature of the difference. That's what allows for this type of clustering to occur.\n\n> (\"This finding implies that Africans differ on average more among themselves than from Eurasians\")\n\nFirst of all, I'd like to point out how you contradict yourself, here. You said that race has no biological significance and that biologists never use it. Well, now you are providing research by biologists and they're using race. According to you, their study would be impossible to conduct because race doesn't exist.\n\nI fail to see your point, though. You admit that Africans and Europeans differ. That's what your paper says.\n\nYou make a logical mistake when you say:\n\n> if you took 1 person from one African genetic clusters, and another person from another African genetic cluster, and compared them to a third person from a European genetic cluster, there's a good chance that the two African's are genetically more similar to the European than to each other.\n\nI think this is really your central misunderstanding.\n\nWhat you fail to realize is that the differences between Africans and Europeans are not the same differences as those within Africans. \n\nThe genes that differ between Africans and Europeans are *not* the same genes that differ within African groups.\n\nThere might be less genes that create the difference between Africans and Europeans, but that is actually irrelevant. The relevant part is that they are consistently different. Thus, we can classify people who are on one side of this difference as \"European\" and classify people on the other side of this difference as \"African.\"\n\nFor example, imagine that genetics can be represented by 10 numbers from 0 - 10. The Europeans all could have the first number be 1, with the rest being a scramble. The Africans all could have the first number be 2, with the rest being a scramble. The scrambled part wouldn't be totally random, but would instead be chosen to get the kind of differences you are talking about.\n\nIn such an example, we'd still be able to point to the first number and notice it's very common for the Europeans all to have a 1 as the first number, while Africans all have a 2. Even though the scrambles show that the Africans are very different from each other, we can still point to a few genes that cluster and show a clear division between Europeans and Africans.\n\n> Again out are just showing that you believe race to by synonymous with skin colour, rather than Allelle frequencies or genetic sequencing. Which it isn't.\n\nNo, you are the one that keeps emphasizing skin color. I don't care much about it, personally.\n\nI can easily tell an Indian person from an African person. They have similarly dark skin, but their other features are very different.\n\nLikewise, Asian people have very light skin like Europeans (albeit a bit yellow in color). Yet, I know they are Asian because of their other physical features.\n\nPhysical features aren't the only way that you can identify race, but they are still very reliable indicators. The final word should always be the genetics.\n\nBtw - I'm curious what you think about [23AndMe](https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/212169298-Reference-Populations). Their racial categories go against what you're saying. If you think they're a fraud you ought to sue them. You'd make a lot of money.\n\n> If skin colour is shared by multiple \"races\", you can't use skin colour to make an accurate racial judgement (even if it was a good indicator of overall genetic diversity).\n\nYeah, you can. If I see a black guy in the US I can be sure with 99% certainty that his ancestry is Sub-Saharan African. I can't tell the sub-categories within African, but genetic testing can. So, clearly skin color is worth something.\n\n> That's not how race is commonly thought of in our society, thus even if we do accept a biological definition of race it is not the same as the social construct of race.\n\nYou have a very american-centric view, I think. I don't know what you mean by social construct of race. It's a biological thing. The \"social construct\" version sounds like people just misunderstanding race.\n\nIt would be like saying that flat earth is the \"socially constructed physics.\" Therefore, physics is invalid because the \"socially constructed\" version is incorrect.\n\nI don't care if people misunderstand race, so long as I understand it.",
"That's not the point - If it isn't anti-hierarchy, it isn't anarchism ",
"By that particular definition of anarchism, but the origin of the term is without ruler. I see a difference between leaders and rulers.",
"It's not a particular definition, though, it's literally the correct definition. All I'm saying is it's a misnomer.",
"“Anarchy is the condition of a society, entity, group of people, or a single person that rejects hierarchy.”\n\nI’m seeing an “or” in that wiki definition",
"> race as we know it in the cultural mind.",
"Glad to see that it's at least somewhat accurate ;)",
"> shit show\n\nReading your comments I can see that that \"shit show\" would be you. ",
"Why, because I'm responding to people with reasoned arguments? Do you have anything meaningful to contribute or are you just here to throw shade?\n\nEdit: So I guess the lone downvote answers that question.",
"Every race has its own culture and identity. I don't think it's fair for someone to say they don't see race. However, I do try to judge everyone by their own merits. Recognizing a culture and judging an individual are not mutually exclusive concepts. ",
"Don't worry, there are people out there who're willing to fuck aliens.",
"I'm certain you've never met a jew IRL before",
"Ghost reporting.",
"\"what about Nascar?\"",
"Preach!!!"
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