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unsubscribe pancamo blkbox comm please unsubscribe pancamo blkbox com this user has become inactive and i wish to discontinue his participation in this mailing list marc newman mknewman lkbox com
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re drawing lines inverse xor you can also set the foreground to the xor of the foreground and background colors xsetforeground fg bg this works great for me at least with truecolor visuals
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re x load on the network bkline occs nlm nih gov bob kline writes can someone point me in the direction of any papers not necessarily formally conducted studies discussing how much traffic x apps generate for the network particularly in comparison with curses bases apps over telnet also does an x server typically buffer up user keyboard input a line at a time can the x client control this asking for keystrokes immediately thanks in advance for any feedback ncd has an excellent document titled host loading considerations in the x environment i received my copy by emailing support ncd com this may help out tim white university of south carolina tim otis hssc scarolina edu humanities and social sciences laboratory columbia s c
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re tektronix in article tgv com mahan tgv com patrick l mahan writes i remember seeing something in the x distribution mentioning support for a tektronix terminal in an x server is this accurate xterm supports x emulation what i was talking about was using an tek terminal as your x display i should be possible to write an x server that does this as far as i can tell but what i m asking is if there is already one mike hopper acs virginia edu i will not raise taxes on the middle class unknown
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how to mask the left button i am posting this for a friend whose news service is fubared as usual i will forward replies to him or if you want to try to reply directly try return path uunet sunfse ese lmsc lockheed com mcfar pr i have an event handler working for a buttonpressmask like xtaddeventhandler plot data display buttonpressmask false show mouse position plot data but i would like to be able to have two types of actions one to occur with the left mouse the other the right and perhaps one with the middle so my event handler would look more like xtaddeventhandler plot data display left buttonpressmask false show left mouse position plot data xtaddeventhandler plot data display right buttonpressmask false show right mouse position plot data however i don t know how to make my left buttonpressmask there didn t seem to be one in the event mask lists i had on hand although button motionmask looked promising my references also mentioned using to or two mask events can you use to and two masks would i want to in this case any help would be appreciated thanks lrm
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remote tektronics emulation hello i am looking for someone to help me with the proceedure for remote login via modem not ethernet to our new silicon graphics iris machines i can log in to them only as a vt terminal regardless of what i am emulating on my end i have communication software kermit which supports tek x and vt emulation the x windows manual lists xterm as the appropriate command to change the terminal type when i try it the reponse is unable to open window thanx in advance keith grider keith grider come on man let s go do the crimes kgrider magnus acs ohio state edu yeah lets get sushi and not pay repo man
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x r on sun cg comes up mono the prints out the following message about it s framebuffer cgtwo at vme d x vec xa cgtwo sun color board fast read anybody know the story on this can i have an impulse item instead henry d reynolds hdr ross com or hdr nidhog cactus org fone x ross technology inc fax hwy west suite austin tx
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how do i modify key map hello folks i m seeing these errors when i try to modify my key map mwm invalid accelerator specfication line x i ve added a line in the start up file before the line that starts mwm it looks like the following xmodmap keymapfile mwm i think that the problem has to do with a conflict between function keys f through f which already have assigned functions e g move minimize etc the odd thing is that i don t see these errors if i run xmodmap keymapfile from an xterm can anyone suggest a way to modify the key map specifically f through f and not have mwm motif window manager complain i realize this is a bit stupid but we only have time to implement not time to learn how to implement terry
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re xman source jlong b pps berkeley edu john long writes where can i get xman source i would like to get the binaries for xman for an hp but i would settle for source try xport lcs mit edu in direcotry contrib chun hung lin l t r csie ntu edu tw communication multimedia lab dept of comp sci info eng national taiwan university taipei taiwan r o c
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faq in comp windows x is there any faq list for programming in x windows thankx for the info bye venky
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editres under pie tvt wm hi looking for any advice or suggestions about a problem i m having with mit x r s editres in particular under twm variants for a start times out of but not always editres won t grab a widget tree when running on our ncd decwindows xterms which i m told will be fixed when the r not r xdm is installed ok so i tried running it on a sun running real r on the same network i get a widget tree but it s always for twm icon manager anybody know of any patches for a twm or b editres that i should look at thanks k
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repost xview slider hi xperts this is a repost no one responded to my desperate yell i can t believe there is no xview wizards any more i m using sliders in my xview apps usually with editable numeric field but i seem to have no control over the length of this field in some apps it appears long enough to keep several characters in some it cannot keep even the maximum value set by panel max value as i understand panel value display length which controls number of characters to be displayed in text items doesn t work in the case of slider despite the fact that panel h contains the following bit panel multiline text item panel numeric text item panel slider item and panel text item attributes panel notify level panel attr attr enum panel value display length panel attr attr int which gives a hint that this attribute can be used for sliders but setting this attribute gives nothing and xv get ting this attribute gives warning bad attribute and returns value strange thing is that dec s port of xview gives plenty of space in a text fields but not sun s xview can someone share his experience in managing sliders in xview with me and clear this problem any help is very much appreciated yuri yuri uk ac hw phy
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bit static color will clients like it i m writing an x server for some video generation equipment the hardware is truecolor in yuv space in x terms it has a bit static color visual i would really like to have the server just present this static visual but i m not sure if this will be acceptable to most x clients the three problems i see are the colormap though huge is static all pixels would be bytes wide because the hardware actually lives in yuv space the translation rgb yuv will introduce some rounding error being more of a server guy than a client guy i ask will these limitations thwart many x clients or will most of the x stuff floating around blithely accept what they re given i could write the server to also present a pseudocolor visual of e g bits but i d rather avoid this if not necessary i know there are no absolutes but i d appreciate hearing people s opinions and suggestions thanks frederick g m roeber cern european center for nuclear research e mail roeber cern ch or roeber caltech edu work r mail cern ppe geneva switzerland home
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polygon to raster converter required can anybody tell me if they know where i can obtain the source code for a polygon filling algorithm or any other graphics orientated mailing lists that may be able to help me thanks paul paul jaques systems engineer camborne school of mines rosemanowes herniss penryn cornwall e mail pjaques csm ac uk tel stithians fax
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graphics editor required see subject an opportunity for sales people persons entities i am looking for a commercial pd graphics editor with fairly limited abilities that runs under x and preferably uses motif widgets it must run on hp ux version either with or without the pex extension the sort of things i want are simple drawing resizing and moving of objects such as lines rectangles and text bounding rectangle operations are sufficient for object selection ideally it should also allow the creation and placement of more complex objects such as widgets e g text entry fields or labels but this is not mandatory does anyone have such an animal if you do please mail me with details including price especially run time licensing since it must be included in a product alternatively send glossies to me at logica newman street london w including technical info please for pd stuff i have some effort that could be put into porting thanks for any help nicholas young nicholas young
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help received from eei eeiihy vax xpert expo lcs mit edu inet mail user in vax and internet help
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core dump from getcons we are getting a memory fault and a core dump whenever we end a motif session under ultrix running on a dec an examintion of the core file leads us to believe it s from getcons does anyone know what this is all about marc marc wiener marc aip org american institute of physics sunnyside blvd voice woodbury ny fax
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a question i do not found in faq i created a pixmap or drawable window then used xdrawline function drawed a line as below fingure width p height p p i created the pixmap or drawable window only with size x but i draw line from p x y to p x y my question is dose the xdrawline function can finger out that correct p x and y for me if you calculate x and y x art tan degrees y x tan tan integer how do i prove xdrawline give me the right x y or not please don t ask me why i don t created a x pixmap no i don t wan to thanks in advance raymond h chui nswc n new hampshire ave silver spring md u s a voice ext fax email rchui opal nswc navy mil o o
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re a question i do not found in faq comp windows x in article apr relay nswc navy mil rchui nswc wo nswc navy mil raymond chui writes please igore my previouse calculation mistaked please see the correct calculation sorry i created a pixmap or drawable window then used xdrawline function drawed a line as below fingure width p height p p i created the pixmap or drawable window only with size x but i draw line from p x y to p x y my question is dose the xdrawline function can finger out that correct p x and y for me if you calculate x and y x art tan degrees y tan integer how do i prove xdrawline give me the right x y or not please don t ask me why i don t created a x pixmap no i don t wan to thanks in advance raymond h chui nswc n new hampshire ave silver spring md u s a voice ext fax email rchui opal nswc navy mil o o raymond h chui nswc n new hampshire ave silver spring md u s a voice ext fax email rchui opal nswc navy mil o o
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re title for xterm yet again the escape sequences you are speaking about here are non standard and dangerous in fact an ansi compliant sequence parser hangs on them why are there such strange esc sequences instead of compatible dsc o o o brain inside o o o o andre beck abpsoft mehl andre beck irs inf tu dresden de o o o
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x interactive performance we recently got an ncd x terminal to evaluate this is running xremote over a serial line i wanted to get some measurement of response time so i wrote a small xlib program which simply creates a window maps it and sends the first expose event to itself the program times the delay from sending the event to receiving it i thought this was the simplest way to test client x server round trip delays it s a similar concept to the ping c program is this a valid test to perform i ve also tried the xbench program available from ftp uu net which bombards the server with graphics operations but i just wanted to get a quantative measure of what is acceptable interactive response time has anyone got any ideas on this subject thanks andrew afielden mlsma att com andrew fielden at t network systems uk tel information systems group sun support email afielden mlsma att com
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creating a gif file we are looking for a x client which can convert a xwd or a bitmap file into a gif file for use on a macintosh thanks michel crnsu in p fr laurent michel crn gti bp strasbourg cedex france phone
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re pulldown menu periodically hangs application on openwindows skip koppenhaver skip eco twg com wrote has anyone found a fix for the following problem client software sunos x r server hardware sun ipc server software sunos open windows w patch a motif application will periodically hang when run against the openwindows server xnews the pulldown is displayed but then no button actions have any effect sometimes pressing return will unstick the application but not usually it looks like the pulldown is grabbing the focus and never letting go other windows on the display continue to get updated so the server isn t hanging if i log in from another terminal and kill the motif application then everything gets back to normal the same application when run against other x servers including mit x r xsun decwindows tektronix x terminal has no problems this is obviously a openwindows problem but i need a work around since most of our customers are openwindows users i have seen the same problem using a sparcstation solaris ow in my case it happens far more often than periodically help
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mail hello networld i m looking for an x mailreader is there a xelm andreas andreas dunker andreas appel hydromech uni hannover de we all live in a yellow subroutine andreas veeble han de the beatles
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re looking for an r xserver for hp update your to hp ux you get an r server and libraries greg hughes gmh fc hp com
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re creating a gif file in article aa crnsu in p fr michel crnsu in p fr writes path wldelft nl sun nl mcsun uunet gatech enterpoop mit edu internet news mail gateway from michel crnsu in p fr newsgroups comp windows x subject creating a gif file date apr organization the internet lines sender news athena mit edu message id aa crnsu in p fr nntp posting host enterpoop mit edu to xpert expo lcs mit edu we are looking for a x client which can convert a xwd or a bitmap file into a gif file for use on a macintosh thanks michel crnsu in p fr laurent michel crn gti bp strasbourg cedex france phone just look at the pbmplus package it does everything you could ever ask for in converting pbm to almost any format gif tga pcx etc arno duijndam
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re is it just me or is this newsgroup dead in article e d tgv com mahan tgv com patrick l mahan writes i ve gotten very few posts on this group in the last couple days i recently added it to my feed list is it just me or is this group near death seen from the mailing list side i m getting about the right amount of traffic and seen from my point of view i get far too much articles to keep up with them i am lucky if i can scan through the subjects from time to time dipl inform rainer klute i r b immer richtig beraten univ dortmund irb postfach tel d w dortmund fax new address after june th univ dortmund d dortmund
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wanted x security posting a few days ago there was a posting in this group by andrea winkler titled x and security x technical conference i was one of the instructors of that tutorial unfortunately my system purged the message before i had a chance to see it and i don t have andrea s email address if someone has andrea s address and or the posting i would really appreciate it if you d forward it to me thanks jeremy jeremy epstein internet epstein trwacs fp trw com trusted x research group voice trw systems division fairfax virginia jeremy epstein internet epstein trwacs fp trw com trusted x research group voice trw systems division fairfax virginia
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hp a graphics terminal emulators i would be grateful to anyone who knows about an x windows application that would emulate hp a graphics in a manner similar to the way tek graphics windows are implemented in xterm thanks for you help oleg roytburd oleg sdd comsat com
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andrew was re x toolkits excerpts from netnews comp windows x apr x toolkits paul prescod undergrad m i get the impression andrew is from the fsf but i don t know what it looks like either the andrew user interface system is supported maintained enhanced and distributed by the andrew consortium carnegie mellon the distribution terms are those of the x consortium not the gnu public license thus anyone can commercially exploit the andrew code without restriction to encourage membership however we defer universal release of the latest versions until consortium members have had an opportunity to explore the new capabilities to se what auis looks like you can try a remote demo you need an x server r is best on a machine linked to the internet give the command finger help atk itc cmu edu for instructions note the demo version does not use the motif look and feel scrollbar but one is available you can use it on the demo by changing an option in the preferences file and starting a new editor the andrew toolkit component of auis is ideal if you want to build applications using compound documents andrew s major feature is its architecture for recursive embedding of objects equation in table in figure in text for example this architecture extends to areas not usually found in toolkits including file stream formats cut paste and printing andrew also provides some of the most commonly requested applications word processor spreadsheet drawing editor and font editor the latter two are in version which will be generally released on the xr tape in december fred hansen director andrew consortium
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x graphics accelerators how can i obtain public information documentation and sources about xservers implemented with graphics processors i am specially interested in xservers developed for the tms texas instruments graphic processor please send answer to arana labein es
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xpm g is available on export lcs mit edu directory contrib and avahi inria fr directory pub xpm xpm f to g patch z xpm g tar z copyright groupe bull see license conditions in file copyright history of user visible changes g enhancements much faster close colors piping from to compressed files now handles gnu s gzip z format added xpmcolorkey attribute ability to specify which visual s colors to use ie now it s possible to read in a pixmap in a color visual but use the colors specified for monochrome added mono grey grey and color options to sxpm to demonstrate the xpmcolorkey attribute jason patterson jasonp fitmail qut edu au bugs corrected fixed bug where redefining none as a pixel stopped mask generation minor svr defines for string h fixed annoying closecolor bug related to read write color cells fixed minor bug in color value pixel overloading manual updated to include new red green blue closeness attributes jason patterson jasonp fitmail qut edu au the top imakefile was missing the depend target sxpm imakefile fixed so that l lib is set before the standard library location vivek khera khera cs duke edu lib xpmp h now defines bcopy as memcpy for vms required by recent versions of vms j daniel smith dsmith ann arbor applicon slb com the lib imakefile didn t work with x r arnaud le hors lehors sophia inria fr bull research france koala project
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re xt intrinsics slow popups in article minster york ac uk cjhs minster york ac uk writes bryan boreham bryan alex com wrote in article minster york ac uk cjhs minster york ac uk writes the application creates window with a button quit and press me the button press me pops up a dialog box the strange feature of this program is that it always pops up the dialog box much faster the first time if i try to pop it up a nd time rd th time it is much slower the shell is waiting for the window manager to respond to its positioning request the window manager is not responding because it thinks the window is already in the right place exactly why the two components get into this sulk is unclear to me all information greatly received the only time i ve seen similar behaviour is when an x application forked a child without setting close on exec on the x display connection file descriptor the shell waited for a configurenotify event that never arrived because it got picked up by the child sometimes the shell correctly got the configurenotify if the timing was right gary phillips email gary ioc co uk phone phones cix compulink co uk fax
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re imake help needed in article apr def bae co uk paul def bae co uk paul byrne writes can someone please give me some pointers to setting up imake in a sun openwindows enviornment i ve checked through all the documentation but can not find any clues sun s openwindows imake is broken i suggest installing imake pure mit s x r imake you can get it from ftp germany eu net in file pub x misc imake imake pure tar z byte dipl inform rainer klute i r b immer richtig beraten univ dortmund irb postfach tel d w dortmund fax new address after june th univ dortmund d dortmund
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x server for nt does anybody have an x server for nt that they re willing to share files or experiences bill steer westinghouse
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sun x r undeletable console messages we have an old sun here which gets occasional use when x r is started on it any console messages during startup are undeletable after x is fully started we run an xterm as the console the problem is that any messages that arrive before this starts go to the plain console refresh window fails to remove them the messages are a real pain since they sit in the middle of the screen obscuring anything else below them at boot time the lists two framebuffers dev cgfour and dev bwtwo we re running x in color and i suspect that maybe the offending messages are on the b w framebuffer and thereby not getting deleted my question is has anyone else seen this and is there an easy way to get rid of these messages please reply by e mail to hughm inmos co uk hugh mcintyre inmos ltd bristol uk btw sunos x r mwm ps i know i can redirect output of the relevant commands to dev null i m looking for a more general solution
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re bit static color will clients like it in article apr vxcrna cern ch roeber vxcrna cern ch frederick roeber writes i m writing an x server for some video generation equipment the hardware is truecolor in yuv space in x terms it has a bit static color visual i would really like to have the server just present this static visual but i m not sure if this will be acceptable to most x clients the three problems i see are the colormap though huge is static all pixels would be bytes wide because the hardware actually lives in yuv space the translation rgb yuv will introduce some rounding error being more of a server guy than a client guy i ask will these limitations thwart many x clients or will most of the x stuff floating around blithely accept what they re given i could write the server to also present a pseudocolor visual of e g bits but i d rather avoid this if not necessary even bit truecolor machines are in most cases running an emulated bit pseudocolor visual only to get standard x clients motif apps and thelike to run i strongly suppose you to emulate at least bit truecolor should be no problem only some translation rounding should not make big misfits bit pseudocolor more of a problem you have to emulate a colormap pixel indices conversion stuff furthermore you should run your default screen on this visual o o o brain inside o o o o andre beck abpsoft mehl andre beck irs inf tu dresden de o o o
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plane xterminal do i want one i ve been offerred an old bits pixel greyscale xterminal aside from the real people have already upgraded to risc architecture r servers do i want this xterminal i m concerned about the planes i ve only ever heard of mono and colour planes will i have any concerns with this plane unit specifically related to planes vs or thanks c ps all r apps run on r r servers right
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unix interest group where is it i know that this is not the correct place to post this but i have exhausted all other logical options i used to be on the info unix newsgroup mailer the mailers mysteriously quite coming around the end of last year all e mails requesting that i be placed back on the list have been ignored i have been unable to locate the administrator of this list if anyone knows of the internet address that i can send a the request to get back on this list can you please send it to me if you don t know of this specific newsgroup mailer i would appreciate the address of any unix related newsgroup thanks cutoff steve slosser ntsc rd navy mil ps sorry for the non x related question
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re bit static color will clients like it even bit truecolor machines are in most cases running an emulated bit pseudocolor visual only to get standard x clients motif apps and thelike to run i strongly suppose you to emulate at least bit truecolor should be no problem only some translation rounding should not make big misfits depends on the nature of the rounding x allows the user to do bit arithmetic on pixel values i e xor foreground and backgroun pixel values together to calculate a foreground color that when used with a function of gxxor fill change foreground to background and vice versa if your rounding does not preserve these types of calculations then clients that use them will break ken kenneth whaley kubota pacific computer inc email whaley kpc com walsh avenue santa clara ca
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re moolit and olit in article stevedavc y jz d netcom com stevedav netcom com steve davidson writes does anyone know the difference between moolit and olit does sun support moolit is moolit available on sparcstations moolit motif open look intrinsic toolkit allows developers to build applications that can switch between motif and open look at run time while olit only gives you open look internet chunhong vnet ibm com
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archie client xgetftp needs an archie client program does anybody know where i can get it thanks in advance kai
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re bit static color will clients like it in article apr vxcrna cern ch roeber vxcrna cern ch frederick roeber writes i m writing an x server for some video generation equipment the hardware is truecolor in yuv space in x terms it has a bit static color visual i would really like to have the server just present this static visual but i m not sure if this will be acceptable to most x clients the three problems i see are the colormap though huge is static all pixels would be bytes wide because the hardware actually lives in yuv space the translation rgb yuv will introduce some rounding error we tried to ship an x server once that only supported a bit truecolor visual the main problems we encountered were clients written with logic like the following if defaultdepth assume default depth is bit these clients need an bit deep visual in the root window to run correctly other clients didn t even bother to do that much and just outright assumed they had a dynamic visual class with a dynamic colormap xstorecolors doesn t work on cmaps associated with static or truecolor visual classes but many clients don t bother to check they just start throwing xstorecolor calls at you though both are clearly client error this is the case with so many clients that it s easier for you to expose bit pseudocolor as a default root window visual than it ever would be for all these client writers to change their clients to do the right thing paul pmartz dsd es com evans sutherland
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using message passing with xtaddinput in the past i have used named pipes to communicate between processes using the xtaddinput function to set up the event handling in motif does anybody know of a way to do this with message passing ipc i tried it here and no luck so far thanks
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red color on button on enter window this may be an faq but i dont know where to get the faq list my openlook application has a few buttons the first button turns red gets highlighted as soon as the sprite mouse is moved into the application window how do i suppress this vidyaranya
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re asynchronous x windows no it isn t it is the x window system or x or x or any of a number of other designations accepted by the x consortium in fact doing man x on pretty much any x machine will tell you the x consortium requests that the following names be used when referring to this software x x window system x version x window system version x there is no such thing as x windows or x window despite the repeated misuse of the forms by the trade rags this probably tells you something about how much to trust the trade rags if they can t even get the name of the window system right why should one trust anything else they have to say i used to think this way and not just about x for example incorrect english constructs such as its raining or it s window id annoy me however there comes a time when popular usage starts to dictate the way things really are in the world indeed the fact that x won out over news was really down to popular opinion i know we all think it s technically superior as well on a related topic who is to say that color is more or less correct than colour being irish and hence using english english as opposed to american english i always use the latter except of course for api terms such as xalloccolor and colormap in a world that uses the term windows to refer to microsoft windows perhaps the time has come to accept x windows as a valid term for x i think that this is a more concise and uncluttered term than say the x window system and let s face it almost everyone uses it ultimately we all need product sales to more than just x literate people in this respect product recognition is important and a short snappy descriptive title x is positively obscure will help when dealing with the average punter it s sad i thought i was a software engineer indeed it is unfortunate that x did not become popularly known as windows and let ms worry about whether it should be called microsoft windows or the microsoft window system or how about just plain microsoft to summarise or should that be summarize the point of this message i think there are far more pressing issues facing the x community than worrying about subtle distinctions in the naming of the window system or should that be windowing system whatever gets recognised is fine by me i agree that one should be careful in interpreting what trade papers say however i would be reluctant to come to this conclusion purely on the basis of how they name the x window system gerard o driscoll gerard odriscoll dps co uk du pont pixel systems ltd
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xm and ow server we have a program written with x r and motif it runs fine on the sun x r server and macx when that program is run under the sparc and the ow server the program crashed itself along with the server it crashed before the first window had showed up i got the following error from x xio fatal io error broken pipe on x server perot after requests known processed with events remaining the connection was probably broken by a server shutdown or killclient i have run the program with xmon and below is the last twenty lines or so from xmon before both the program and server crashed request getproperty delete false window win property atm type atm long offset reply getproperty format type none bytes after request getinputfocus reply getinputfocus revert to parent focus win d request changeproperty mode replace window win property atm type atm format data request getinputfocus please email to me if you have any idea of the above problem thanks in advance mw chiu mwchiu tigr org
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re asynchronous x windows in zztop dps co uk gerard dps co uk gerard o driscoll writes no it isn t it is the x window system or x or x or any of a number of other designations accepted by the x consortium there is no such thing as x windows or x window despite the repeated misuse of the forms by the trade rags i used to think this way and not just about x for example incorrect english constructs such as its raining or it s window id annoy me however there comes a time when popular usage starts to dictate the way things really are in the world well yes and no i don t particularly want this discussion to spark a lengthy debate but i do think it s worth pointing out that popular usage is not always sufficient excuse in this case for example i think an appropriate parallel may be found in the pronunciation of proper names if people commonly misspelled or mispronounced your name would you feel compelled to change it probably not the same is true of x the x window system x x and related monickers are proper names in the same sense that any product name is a proper name in fact some of them are trademarked names the fact that many people get them wrong is largely beside the point as for the trade publications that promulgate things like x window or x windows or any of the other nonsensical variants one often sees consider the fact that these publications are supposedly written by journalists would you trust the facts of a journalist who couldn t be bothered to get the name of his her source right would you trust a product review by someone who got the name of the product wrong popular usage is as it may be but i for one am all for holding people who claim to be journalists to a higher standard of correctness indeed the fact that x won out over news was really down to popular opinion i know we all think it s technically superior as well x technically superior to news well in some alternate universe perhaps
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unisys emulation has anyone seen source to an xterm package ready to perform unisys terminal emulation got a clunker and got a connect return mikell cactus org mikell cactus org calame linebarger graham pena attys at law
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cfp andrew technical conference reminder plan now for the andrew conference date the dates are as noted below we have not changed them submission extension we are still accepting papers tutorial topic converting andrew source code to c this tutorial will discuss the steps necessary to convert a site from c extended with classc to c conversion of the source code requires only a couple of steps run the converter fill in missing type information describing this will not take long the remainder of the day will be spent learning how to write objects in c and practicing andrew technical conference and consortium annual meeting june carnegie mellon university pittsburgh pa the conference will be held on the last thursday and friday in june a tutorial will be on thursday the th and the conference proper on the th with the annual meeting at the dinner on the evening between the two days all conference attendees are welcome at the annual meeting though only consortium members will be able to vote this year s theme is application construction by non programmers much of the effort on x toolkits has been aimed at programmer construction of applications there have however been some excellent uims systems built on top of x papers addressing the theme will consider questions such as what is needed for application construction by non programmers can we avoid programming altogether or is a simple language needed is it sufficient to create applications or must users be able to create new widgets should widgets and applications be able to print themselves your participation in the conference is welcome papers are appropriate on the theme or any aspect of the andrew user interface system including applications experience with users new objects reviews of and proposals for revision of internal andrew protocols we expect to have an rs with video projector available if you would like to do a demonstration paper proposals should be submitted by may acceptance will be june with final papers due by june send papers via electronic mail to wjh andrew cmu edu fred hansen director andrew consortium
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xarchie available on export please accept the following announcement for comp windows x announce gf a completely revamped version of the x browser interface to archie xarchie is now available as export lcs mit edu contrib xarchie tar z for those not familar with archie or xarchie i include part of the manpage intro xarchie is an x browser interface to the archie internet information system using the prospero virtual filesystem protocol archie provides information about files available for ftp anywhere on the internet xarchie displays this information using an easy to use point and click interface xarchie allows you to further explore ftp sites by examining directories returned as query matches and allows you to retrieve files located this way xarchie has been extensively tested on r r and a variety of other flavors of x and on a wide range of machines a summary of the new features from the readme follows major improvements include multiple selections allowed in browser for use with other new features fwf multilist widget ability to expand directories in browser real fully integrated ftp implementation ability to save and reload query results as well as print them ability to resort results and sort results by user definable pseudo weights online help browser color resources done so that they don t break mono displays fwf fileselector widget for local file operations makefile dst s supplied for the imake impaired george george ferguson arpa ferguson cs rochester edu dept of computer science uucp rutgers rochester ferguson university of rochester vox rochester ny fax
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re regression testing and x megan grenenger megan cs uq oz au wrote i d appreciate any feedback on capture playback tools for use with x clients any comparisons comments on regression testing tools would be great particularly xtm xrunner autotester and sri s capbak smarts and exdiff how about starting where i could find any of these for the commercial ones at least a phone number would be appreciated bill poitras molecular simulations inc tel bill msi com burlington ma fax ftp mail mail ftpmail decwrl dec com offers ftp via email subject cr help cr quit
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re how to get bit color with xview frames amathur ces cwru edu alok mathur writes i would like to know how i can set the depth of the frame to be bits i tried using the following xlib code am i using a completely wrong approach here is it possible to set the depth yes and colormap for a window created by xview what am i doing wrong look up xv depth also you might want to try using xview colormap segments instead of xlib for your colormap stuff they will probably be easier for you to use and since you are using a truecolor visual you won t be losing anything compared to straight xlib jonathan hue island com
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announcing the motif mailing list i am glad and proud to announce the new mailing list for the pd motif c bindings i got over replies in about one week of people interested in such a list and the software has now been properly installed so the list is now up and running for those interested in joining please send e mail to that extend to motif request cv ruu nl or rvloon cv ruu nl the blurb everyone who joins gets follows as well as the original announcement for where motif can be obtained enjoy welcome to the motif mailing list the motif mailing list is a mailing list dedicated to motif the pd c wrapper library for motif where people can ask questions about motif swap stories and give new ideas about new directions and improvements for the bindings all requests of an administrative nature like subscription removal etc should be directed to motif request cv ruu nl all e mail sent to motif cv ruu nl will be sent to the entire list so please make sure when using vacation type programs that will reply to messages automatically that the address for the mailing list is excluded from auto replies enjoy ronald van loon in theory there is no difference rvloon cv ruu nl between theory and practice dcv group utrecht the netherlands in practice however there is hello motif world over the past half year there have been a lot of relatively minor changes to the motif bindings imake support has been improved a few defaults have been changed and a lot of other small things have been added this is basically a release which drops the gamma status next release will incorporate some improvements by stefan schwarz and possibly will support x r and motif x note to all of those who keep copies of the archive please retrieve this distribution during off peak hours and delete all previous copies here is the original announcement history the university of lowell supported by a grant of the open software foundation has developed a wrapper library that encapsulates motif widgets in c classes all resources of these widgets can now be set through member functions while objects can be used in callback functions the library was made available for free or nominal cost for anonymous ftp at however the library contained a large number of bugs and oversights and only worked under x r due to lack of subsequent fundings the bindings are no longer actively supported by the university of lowell i ronald van loon at a certain point last year have taken the lowell bindings fixing the bugs i came across adding missing memberfunctions and enhancing functionality and made the bug fixed library available for the general public for anonymous ftp made possible by rick murphy at dec new release i am now pleased to announce a new and updated release of the motif bindings this release offers full motif and x r support support for xbae widgetset two additional widgets written by myself that can be used to indicate progress in an application imake support nb this release relies heavily on the existence of imake and its config files on your site i have tried to provide the bindings with a standard makefile tweakable for those unfortunates without imake i have not severely tested the standard makefile though contact me if you have problems the reason for calling this a gamma release lies in the fact that i do not have a multitude of platforms to test the imake files on lots of testfiles even somewhat useful programs an article i wrote on the usage of motif x and c previously posted on usenet where to get the new motif bindings ftp anonymous ftp at decuac dec com directory pub x note please be patient as the network link is quite slow please do not ftp large files during working hours also note that there is also a motif jan tar z file at this site this is an old version of the bindings e mail those who don t have ftp can send me e mail and i will send the bindings by e mail request those who use the bindings and find bugs or see room for improvement please contact me and i will try to incorporate them in a future release in case of bugs a bug fix of course more information contact me at rvloon cv ruu nl if you are desperate then you can call me at that is utrecht the netherlands those within the netherlands call enjoy ronald van loon in theory there is no difference rvloon cv ruu nl between theory and practice dcv group utrecht the netherlands in practice however there is
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manual unsubscribe request i am on the list under two addresses i think tom capmgtsci com and zuma tom netcomsv netcom com please delete the second one zuma tom netcomsv netcom com thanks sorry for the screw up tom tulinsky capital management sciences west los angeles tom capmgtsci com
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looking for updated xview textedit source w d n d support the xview version source distribution included in the contrib section of x r included the source to the textedit program i d like to take the sources and modify them to add support for a tooltalk like message server and maybe for tooltalk while i m at it since the sun supplied textedit binary doesn t seem to speak tooltalk however the sources in the r contrib area seem to be for an older version of textedit than the version shipped with openwindows for example the own textedit includes drag and drop support and a dropsite in the main control area while the source in contrib xview knows nothing about drag and drop the textedit c included in the xview sources says it s version dated while doing a what textedit on the own binary says textedit c copyr sun micro dragdrop c copyr sun micro tooltalk c copyr sun micro ds relname c copyr sun micro so does anyone know if the sources to textedit are available i d really like to work from the latest source if possible please reply by email and i ll post a summary if there s enough interest matt landau waiting for a flash of enlightenment matt centerline com in all this blood and thunder
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input focus to a window other than where the pointer is i have noticed in framemaker x on both the sgi and sun platforms that certain dialogs such as column layout for example respond to keyboard traversal even though the pointer is not in the dialog window and even though the window manager keyboard focus policy is pointer how is this done i would like to emulate this behavior in my application it seems a reasonable behavior since when a dialog is popped up from a keyboard action the dialog is not guaranteed to be under the pointer and the user should not have to reach for the mouse just to move the focus alternatively i m open to any suggestions as to what is the right way to insure that popups get the focus when they appear particularly when they are invoked from the keyboard and one s keyboard focus policy is pointer allen barnett whose wife graciously allowed to use her account
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which x events are generated on application exit i m writing an application running under x using motif and i need to do some stuff when the application quits now when i shut down my x windows session it doesn t seem to send a sigterm or whatever signal to my application i m trapping various signals like that therefore i thought i could use an x signal to check for my top level window being destroyed however i seem to get destroynotify events whenever i move windows is there any way for me to check that the window is actually being destroyed some field to check or some combination of events replies by e mail please and i will summarise thanks for any help ian ian compsci liverpool ac uk
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xavier av extension to interviews dear folks it s a pleasure to be able to announce the release of a new freeware program xavier an audio and video extension to interviews xavier extension av class for interviews is a c class library that adds multimedia capability to interviews it allows composite multimedia objects to be built from media objects specifically it adds audio and video objects to the classes available in interviews and it does so without changing the source code for the original classes though several configuration files for interviews need to be changed via a patch file currently the xavier audio classes are only supported on sun workstations with an audio interface such as the sparcstation xavier has been tested in the following environments sun machine sparcserver sparcstation ipc os sun os or later c sun c ver nec ews machine ews os ews ux v rel wsos release release c c release it can be obtained via anonymous ftp from interviews stanford edu in pub contrib xavier large demo tar and xavier tar we are preparing a mailing list for information regarding xavier if you are interested please contact xavier tsl cl nec co jp i will add your e mail address to our list reference o rei hamakawa hizekazu sakagami jun rekimoto audio and video extension to graphical interface toolkits the third international workshop on network and operating system support for digital audio and video san diego rei hamakawa e mail rei tsl cl nec co jp o o c c systems research laboratories o nec corporation o miyazaki chome tel o miyamae ku kawasaki fax o kanagawa japan
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re pulldown menu periodically hangs application on openwindows in article rgt innonv ssdc ssdc sterling com rlee ssdc ssdc sterling com richard lee writes a motif application will periodically hang when run against the openwindows server xnews i have seen the same problem using a sparcstation solaris ow in my case it happens far more often than periodically i don t know if there s a corresponding patch for solaris but this sounds like the following bug which is supposedly fixed in the solaris x olwm jumbo patch window system can hang in an errant pointer grab actually i suspect that the ow problem may be different since the readme file says that this patch is just a sunos x version of the ow olwm but maybe that line came from an earlier version of the patch and they forgot to take it out in the version barry margolin system manager thinking machines corp barmar think com uunet harvard think barmar
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re xsun not running on sparcclassic herzog dogwalk eng sun com brian herzog sunsoft product engineering writes i m just guessing here but i d guess that x r expects the cg to have x resolution and the version of the cg in the sparcclassic is x i ve used x r with classics set for both x and x you can choose which resolution you want in the prom monitor before booting one person had trouble with x r that was fixed by using the multi screen version here s how our version was built you can just copy usr local x r bin xsun from farside rutgers edu if you just want to see whether this version will work r distribution installed from pub r mit and contrib on export lcs mit edu patches installed from pub r fixes on export r xsun multi screen patches installed from contrib r xsun multi screen on export mar solaris patches installed release update from contrib r sunos patch on export mar compilation is with gcc configuration is standard except that the root is usr local x r per rutgers conventions
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re a question i do not found in faq in article apr relay nswc navy mil rchui opal nswc navy mil writes i created a pixmap or drawable window then used xdrawline function to draw a clipped line i created the pixmap or drawable window only with size x but i draw line from p x y to p x y my question is dose the xdrawline function can finger out that correct p x and y for me if you calculate x and y if you re asking does the x server perform clipping correctly when drawing lines the answer is yes
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comp windows x i would like to keep track of x development on a ux ultrix openwindows currently i cannot use the newsgroup comp windows x and would like to use the email based info thanks folkert boonstra cap gemini innovation dutch research centre burg elsenlaan phone p o box fax ga rijswijk nl e mail boonstra capints uucp
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problem with dni and ow can anybody help me i am having a problem displaying images greater than bytes on a sparc ipc running openwindows and dni my program runs on a vax and displays images on the ipc with no problems if i use openwindows the program uses the following lines to display the image it is the xputimage routine that crashes ximage ximage ximage xcreateimage mydisplay defaultvisual mydisplay myscreen ddepth zpixmap image xwid ywid xputimage mydisplay mywindow mygc ximage xpos ypos xwid ywid the error i get is xio fatal io error on x server galaxy after requests known processed with events remaining xlib f ioerror xlib io error system f linkdiscon network partner disconnected logical link trace f traceback symbolic stack dump follows module name routine name line rel pc abs pc b b bbe bbe d d a a myxsubs my imtoiks af test main e ee i have a simple test program if anyone would like to test it thanks paul paul jaques systems engineer camborne school of mines rosemanowes herniss penryn cornwall e mail pjaques csm ac uk tel stithians fax
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standard colormaps i m working on an x r application and have concerns regarding standard colormaps the x r documentation says usually a window manager creates these colormaps i wonder what window manager the writer had in mind neither twm or mwm seem to create standard colormaps of course one can use xstdcmap to create standard colormaps however xstdcmap doesn t seem to try very hard to avoid conflicts with the default colormap when i use standard colormaps created by xstdcmap the rest of my display goes black so it seems as if use of standard colormaps causes the very problem standard colormaps are intended to avoid perhaps if every application used standard colormaps things would be wonderful but not many applications seem to use standard colormaps finally the operation of the functions xmugetcolormapallocation xmustandardcolormap and xmucreatecolormap seem inconsistent with the section of the x r xlib documentation according to the section of the x r xlib documentation p for grayscale colormaps only the colormap red max red mult and base pixel members are defined the other members are ignored to compute a grayscale pixel value use the following expression gray red mult base pixel xffffffff xmugetcolormapallocation defined in mit lib xmu cmapalloc c is used by xmulookupstandardcolormap defined in mit lib xmu lookupcmap c to select red max green max and blue max values for the call to xmustandardcolormap when the rgb gray map property is specified xmugetcolormapallocation sets red max to of the total number of cells in the gray scale sets green max to of the total number and sets blue max ot of the total number referring to section one would expect xmugetcolormapallocation to set red max to the total number of cells in the gray scale when the rgb gray map property is specified xmustandardcolormap defined in mit lib xmu stdcmap c sets red mult green mult and blue mult all equal to referring to section one would expect green mult and blue mult to be ignored when red mult green mult and blue mult all equal xmucreatecolormap defined in mit lib xmu crcmap c constructs a gray map the sum of red max green max and blue max gives the maximum gray value referring to section on would expect red max to give the maximum gray value
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xlib timeouts i am in the process of modifying an x application that uses xlib i d like to include a timer driven facility for network polling but cannot see how to do it using xlib i know it can be done with xaw using xtappaddtimeout and xttimercallbackproc how do i do the same using xlib thanks for any help please email dave wilson computing centre rhodes university grahamstown south africa
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how to unsubscribe from mailing list i try to unsubscribe from this group by sending an email but that doesn t work could some one tell me the listserv address and command for me to unsubcribe i am leaving this friday th april and the mail box will overflow soon after that thanks philip nguyen research engineer flexible manufacturing research and development centre fmr d mcmaster university main st west hamilton on l s l voice ext or fax e mail phil flex eng mcmaster ca
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how can get a pixel value from a drawable how can get a pixel value from a drawable without having to copy it to the client as an ximage and use xgetpixel i want to select pixels from an animating window on the server without having to copy the whole lot back to my client x r any pointers appreciated gordon gordon c watson meteorology department edinburgh university scotland janet g c watson uk ac ed internet gcw met ed ac uk
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how to resolve different font formats hi all i tried to run softpc a pc emulation software program installed on a silicon graphics workstation from a human design system hds x terminal and everything went fine except the fonts could not be converted from one type of format to the other hds uses different font format from sgi worksation so i have the following questions how do you resolve different font formats from different machines is there a program to convert one type of font format to another if you have similar problems experiences and have found a solution please let me know your help will be greatly appreciated thank you in advance for your help and information tom nguen edwind lims lerc nasa gov
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re archie client get xarchie instead o o o brain inside o o o o andre beck abpsoft mehl andre beck irs inf tu dresden de o o o
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re standard colormaps in article rjdk inncnh senator bedfellow mit edu jgealow mtl mit edu jeffrey c gealow writes i m working on an x r application and have concerns regarding standard colormaps the x r documentation says usually a window manager creates these colormaps i wonder what window manager the writer had in mind neither twm or mwm seem to create standard colormaps standard colormaps were spec d with the intention that window managers would make them available this doesn t mean that every window manager author in the world immediately dropped everything they were doing and implemented this at top priority the esge server we ship makes the xa rgb best map available at startup it doesn t wait for window managers to do it of course one can use xstdcmap to create standard colormaps however xstdcmap doesn t seem to try very hard to avoid conflicts with the default colormap when i use standard colormaps created by xstdcmap the rest of my display goes black so it seems as if use of standard colormaps causes the very problem standard colormaps are intended to avoid perhaps if every application used standard colormaps things would be wonderful but not many applications seem to use standard colormaps does your hardware have only one clut since standard colormaps typically devour all entries there is no way it can avoid displacing the entire default colormap if your hardware has only one clut i don t believe standard colormaps are intended to aboid possible colormap flashing between clients using the default coilormap rather colormap flashing will be avoided between two clients that use the same standard colormap an example would be two clients that need a full color range would both use xa rgb best map or whatever it s called under x r if you are trying to avoid colormap flashing with the default colormap your best bet is to try to load all the colors you use into that colormap if you can t do that then you ll get flashing on a one hw clut framebuffer now if your window manager used the same standard colormap as your client this flashing could also be avoided perhaps some window managers have command line options for selecting standard colormaps paul pmartz dsd es com evans sutherland
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imake support for xmosaic imake support for xmosaic although xmosaic is a great program in general it unfortunately comes without imake support so i created one until marc andreessen finds the time to incorporate it in an official xmosaic release you can easily do it yourself use anonymous ftp to get ftp germany eu net pub x misc xmosaic imake tar z the file s size is byte you will need gzip to unpack it have fun dipl inform rainer klute i r b immer richtig beraten univ dortmund irb postfach tel d w dortmund fax new address after june th univ dortmund d dortmund
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posix message catalogs can someone tell me in words or less how to compile posix message catalogs so that i can use them with catgets catopen etc i know what the format for the catalogs is but don t know how to compile them please reply to chas blackwhite com thanks in advance chas black white software inc leaders in systems software solutions s bascom ave suite contact black white for information on campbell ca x windows osf motif software support osf motif ms windows gui builders add on widgets editors and help systems info blackwhite com c and ada motif bindings
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registration andrew tutorial technical conference andrew tutorial and technical conference when thursday and friday june and deadline for registration june where carnegie mellon university in pittsburgh pennsylvania sponsor andrew consortium of cmu s school of computer science schedule the tutorial will be on thursday followed by dinner and the annual meeting the conference proper will be on friday all conference attendees are welcome at the annual meeting wednesday june check in after pm informal reception pm thursday june tutorial a m pm conference dinner pm annual meeting pm friday june technical conference am pm cost tutorial fee includes breaks lunch and tutorial materials conference fee includes conference dinner breaks and proceedings rooms student housing night housing is tight around the campus area so please register soon if you prefer to stay in off campus housing please contact us for suggestions mary anne cowden will be handling registration you can contact her by email mc b andrew cmu edu or by phone registration form please complete the attached form and return it to mary anne cowden andrew consortium technical conference carnegie mellon university smith hall forbes avenue pittsburgh pa cut along here name address organization email phone tutorial conference housing night total enclosed please make checks payable to carnegie mellon university
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keyboard mapping and window placement questions these are two common subjects so i hope someone has had to deal with these specific questions if my application depends on modifiers what is the best lookup method my choices are to call xgetmodifiermapping for each key press with a modifier or make the call once at the init of the app and store the modifiers in a lookup table i would like to do it the second way but i can t seem to get the notify when the user uses xmodmap to remap the modifiers i know that when an app calls xsetmodifiermapping a mappingnotify event is generated non maskable which i can pick up and modify my internal table but i don t seem to get any notify events when the user uses xmodmap if i use xt all o reilly has to say is is automatically handled by xt if i use xlib ala xnextevent i get nothing this all stems from problems with users of the sun keyboard and the numlock plus various alt meta etc modifier requirements i would like to place a popup so that it will be to the immediate right of my main window i want it at the same y coord and their right left sides touching what i need to ask for is the x y coord of the window manager s border for the main window this should ring a bell with anyone who has called xtmovewidget immediately checking the x y after the move and seeing that it is right and in their next callback asking for the x y and seeing that it is now offset by the wm border any help would be most appreciated darcy darcy mccallum mentorg com
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save under with x r i have the following problem on x r servers when a window of my is obscured by a pop up window which has the save under attribute set the subwindows of my window are not restored normally the subwindows are redrawn when the parent window gets an expose event but because the save under attribute is used for the pop up window that obscured my window no expose event is sent when exposuremask is set for the child windows those windows are correctly updated when the popup window disappears however then the application gets too many expose events and you see extra redraws everything works fine with x r is this something that is changed between x r and x r obvious is it something i do wrong is there something that the popup window should do which is also mine is this a bug in x release greetings hans bos domain hans xelion nl xelion bv uucp sun nl xelion hans postbus phone
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overriding default wm behaviour i posted this about tow weeks ago but never saw it make it then again i ve had some problems with the mail system apologies if this appears for the second time usually when i start up an application i first get the window outline on my display i then have to click on the mouse button to actually place the window on the screen yet when i specify the geometry option the window appears right away the properties specified by the geometry argument the question now is how can i override the intermediary step of the user having to specify window position with a mouseclick i ve tried explicitly setting window size and position but that did alter the normal program behaviour thanks for any hints robert ps i m working in plain x using tvtwm robert gasch der erste mai ist der tag an dem die stadt ins oracle engineering freihe tritt und den staatlichen monopolanspruch de meern nl auf gewalt in frage stellt rgasch nl oracle com einstuerzende neubauten headers from uupsi expo lcs mit edu xpert mailer thu apr remote from aolsys received from uupsi by aolsys aol com id aa thu apr edt received from srmftp psi com by uu psi com b psi psinet via smtp id aa for thu apr received from expo lcs mit edu by srmftp psi com psi psinet id aa thu apr edt received by expo lcs mit edu thu apr received from enterpoop mit edu by expo lcs mit edu thu apr received by enterpoop mit edu id aa thu apr received from usenet by enterpoop with netnewsfor xpert expo lcs mit edu xpert expo lcs mit edu contact usenet enterpoop if you have questions to xpert expo lcs mit edu date apr gmt from rgasch nl oracle com robert gasch message id nlsun oracle nl organization oracle europe subject overriding default behaviour
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re x toolkits excerpts from misc apr re x toolkits sivesh pradhaan rebels b i do not have finger so is there any other way of accessing this service like mail server or telnet or ftp you can use telnet xhost atk itc cmu edu telnet atk itc cmu edu run demo
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realtime x tensions hi iam looking for information on any work that deals with real time support in x windows would be happy if you could provide any pointers or information thanks lakshman lakshman ms uky edu
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wierd xdm behavior dear sun and windows people i am running sun workstations with sunos and vanilla x r i have a bunch of xterminals as well today i had my xdm fail at about it was impossible to login to a host from an xterminal the message was the xdm too many retransmissions in my xdm errors file i had the following entries error pid server for display terminated unexpectedly error pid warning keyboard on display could not be secured error pid server for display terminated unexpectedly i also had error pid warning keyboard on display could not be secured error pid server for display terminated unexpectedly error pid warning keyboard on display could not be secured error pid server for display terminated unexpectedly also at the console the login box would come up for about seconds and then it would go away it would do this continuously i could login from another workstation to the hosts in question however i could not login on the console i tried killing xdm and restarting it but that didn t help i finally rebooted all the hosts which hurts when done in the middle of the day any help would be appreciated thanks phil phil neal systems programmer statistics department gn university of washington seattle wa usa look another bit repo man the movie
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re realtime x tensions i am looking for information on any work that deals with real time support in x windows would be happy if you could provide any pointers or information concurrent has a product called realtimex tm that is a set of real time extensions to the x window system realtimex is currently supported on the concurrent series and series with the ga graphics accelerator if you need want more info let me know sam black once you remove the absurdity from human existence there isn t much left black westford ccur com concurrent computer corporation
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re x interactive performance for image display about frames per second seems to be the lower limit for interactive operations for just bringing up an image for viewing less than second seems to be a good number of course the measure of response time should be based on the applications you are planning to run
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frame buffer question for x r sun x window installation on a sun with cg alone and with cg as screen and cg as screen questions are there any hardware configuration changes on the cg and or cg devices that need to be made other than pulling out and inserting the cg frame buffer in the vme bus the cg is called a graphics accelerator as apposed to a frame buffer what is the significance of this to the x server and how do we install the sunos driver x to be compatable i would appreciate any information on this i am posting this on the behalf of dr john charlton who does not have net access please reply to him directly at charlton bme unc edu or just send it at this address and i will forward it thank you for your help anay panvalka cs unc edu
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re plane xterminal do i want one in article c srv w watserv uwaterloo ca chudel watarts uwaterloo ca chris hudel writes ps all r apps run on r r servers right the bit server should work fine as far as i know xterminals running older versions can run the latest apps as long as the host machine has the r libraries installed i could be wrong though mike hopper acs virginia edu i will not raise taxes on the middle class unknown
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menubutton widget question i m trying to create a button that has both a label and a bitmap using the menubutton widget is this possible right now all i get is the bitmap no sign of the label any help would be appreciated scott
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how to access bit color on cg we have a sun and we have just acquired a cg frame buffer card the cg is supposed to support both a bit color visual and a monochrome visual the default visual for the xnews server is the monochrome and we are unable to change it to the bit visual we have tried using xgetvisualinfo to get a visual of depth but had no success xdpyinfo gives no information about a bit deep visual only monochrome there are two possible solutions if someone has patches for x r xsun server could they forward them to us otherwise could someone instruct us how to access the bit color in openwindows jon herlocker email herlock lclark edu lewis clark college portland or
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xsun not finding default font sol hi netters i ve just built x r pl under solaris i ve used the multi screen patch as well as the r sunos patch and everything builds great except for that error message xsun gives me upon startup it says cannot set default font path stuff deleted and cannot set default font fixed if i supply the fp option it doesn t complain about the font path but still complains about the font i have symlinks from usr lib to the place where my distribution lives could somebody help me joel joel reymont z code software corporation e mail joel z code com redwood hwy suit b san rafael ca
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re desqview x on a pc and network traffic in article qdeck com support qdeck com technical support writes in article qtk rn picasso cssc syd tansu com au gpatapis boyd tansu com au writes what sort of traffic is generated with the x calls i am curious to find out the required bandwidth that a link must have if one machine running dv x is supporting multiple users clients and we require adequate response time anyone have any ideas i expect the limiting factor will be your server machine not the network itself to give you a real world example here at quarterdeck we have roughly people using dvx to talk to a bunch of unix boxes novell file servers and each other it s not too much of a load on our ethernet with maybe concentrators so you have people on each segment if you had a badly loaded net or the apps you wanted to run were very network intensive you could run into some slowdowns but the biggest problem would be the machine itself say you have a with plenty of ram and a fast hard disk and network card if you have people running programs off it you re going to see some slowdowns because you re now on effectively a mhz of course dvx will attempt to see if tasks are idle and make sure they give up their time slice but if you have working programs running you ll know it well i can buy a bigger and more powerful server machine because of the significant drop in price year after year the link i want to use though isdn k is costly and the bandwidth limited that s why my interest lies in seeing if such a link can be used and see what traffic goes through it having said that if you can tweak the programs being run by adding in calls to give up time slices when idle and that sort of thing you could probably run people on a given machine before you started seeing slowdowns again this time from network bandwidth hmmm has anyone at your centre monitored the traffic at all are you running any standard ms windows programs like word what sort of packets go blazing through what size link do you have mb or mb what is the average traffic flow going through your network or do you have few high peaks and then many low points it all really depends on what the programs are doing ie you re going to see a slowdown from x bandwidth a lot sooner if your apps are all doing network things also what do you mean by network things i vision using ms windows and other windows applications over the network were the processes are running on the server and all i am getting are the displays i am wondering how good is the x and subsequently dv x protocol in transferring these images with x calls and displaying them on a client s machine quarterdeck office systems internet support tom bortels pricing ordering info qdeck com tech questions support qdeck com bbs fax compuserve go quarterdeck q fax from touch tone phone for technotes on demand george patapis pan metron ariston telecom c s s c lane cove email gpatapis cssc syd tansu com au p o box a sydney south fax nsw australia voice
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hp interface architect hey gui folks does anyone out there have experience with the hp interface architect gui dev tool if so can i call you and ask a couple of quick questions i promise i ll be brief the questions are simple and of course i ll call on my nickel jeff copeland jeffcop i isc com x interactive systems corp now a systemhouse co jeff copeland jeffcop i isc com x
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xv has escaped no not another false alarm not a it ll certainly be done by next week message no this is the real thing i repeat this is not a drill batten down the hatches hide the women and lock up the cows xv has finally escaped i was cleaning its cage this morning when it overpowered me broke down the office door and fled the lab it was last seen heading in the general direction of export lcs mit edu at nearly k per second if found it answers to the name of contrib xv tar z have a blast i m off to the vacation capital of the u s waco texas jhb
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searching cad software hi out there i m looking for mechanic construction cad software either pd sources or sun binaries respective the licence who knows any package and a source site to get it thx fabian fabian hoppe phone elsternstr fax w gevelsberg email fabian vivian w open de germany
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is there a simple way to check what action a mouse button will take w o actually executing it somehow one of my xterminal users has made it so that a click of mb right automatically kills all clients oh my thanx fish john r vanderpool internet fish eosdata gsfc nasa gov nasa gsfc hstx vox so you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it s sinking racing around to come up behind you again rw dg
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anybody have patched version of xroach for tvtwm i read about the code you can put in to most applications so that the virtual desktop stuff in tvtwm doesn t confuse them or is the application confusing the virtual ness chicken the egg but wanted to see if it has been applied to a version of xroach i never could quite get ssetroot to work either any suggestions luckily xv root quit does the trick for the most part also i ld be quite interested in hearing more about the icon region for each virtual window under tvtwm that i read a thread on last week here thanx fish john r vanderpool internet fish eosdata gsfc nasa gov nasa gsfc hstx vox so you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it s sinking racing around to come up behind you again rw dg
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help in developing a x windows interface for gdb hi i am trying to write an x windows based interface that runs on top of gdb could anyone help me in understanding the way we are supposed to fork gdb off as a subprocess i currently use pipes but when i try and debug this program the following happens program main int x printf enter x scanf d x printf x d n x output the program hangs without returning the output of the printf statement when i type in a value like then all the printf s output comes out at one time is there any other way besides using pipes to do this i e like ioctl or something else thanks deepak deepak mulchandani advanced products research and development laboratory motorola semiconductor products sector austin tx deepak inxs sps mot com
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motif server for ascii terminals does anyone know of an x server for character cell terminals doesn t have to be anything fancy as long is it works
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re finding out state of state keys eg capslock and numlock in aa blue arbortext com rps arbortext com ralph seguin writes my question is this is there a means of determining what the state of capslock and or numlock is i don t know any way except to see what modifiers are on in th keypress event of course if there is some reason why you need to always know the state of modifiers even if your windows don t have the keyborads focus you can always ask for keypress events from the root window then you get all the keypresses and you always know what have been pressed an even more pointed question is there an easy means of making an x keyboard act like a pc keyboard ie capslock is active and the user presses shift a i d like to get a lowercase a instead of a i think this is just a question of how to implement xlookupstring you can always write another function that interprets the keypresses as you like you can look at the implementation of xlookupstring from the xlib sources and then modify it a little bit sami tikka hut fi g sami s tikka o hut admd fumail c fi live long and prosper
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looking for drawing packages greetings i am developing an application that allows a user to interactively create edit view a visual model i e topology of their network and i was wondering if anyone knew of any builder tools that exist to simplify this task in the past i have used visual edge s uim x product to develop other guis so i am familiar with uimss in general the topology will support objects and connecting links once the topology is created i want to provide the user with capabilities to support grouping zooming etc i am looking for some form of a higher abstraction other than x drawing routines to accomplish this specifically the zooming and grouping aspects may prove difficult and certainly time consuming if i have to roll my own suggestions greg greg software mitel com
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