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• Summary: The North Carolina bluegrass quartet releases its follow-up to the band's 2008 album IV.
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1. The accomplished and entirely delightful Wildwood--which has the same kind of unassuming, cordial warmth as Rawlings's Friend of a Friend album from last year--will ensure that their reputation only continues to rise.
2. Not many bands bring together bluegrass' past and present the way Chatham County Line do, and fewer still can do it this well; Wildwood shows they keep getting better as they follow new stylistic detours in their music.
3. As such, it's perhaps a little less satisfying and immediate than IV, which is still the band's finest album, but it seems to set them up to do anything they want on their next record. And it's also likely to help build their audience outward a bit.
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These veteran North Carolinians invariably put out albums of spirit, vim and polished Americana, with songs that boast powerful melodies and gorgeous harmonies. [Oct 2010, p.89]
5. There's also no faulting the band's performances. Banjoist Chandler Holt and mandolinist John Teer remain two of country music's most unheralded musicians, and bassist Greg Readling and guest percussionist Zeke Hutchins give the songs strong rhythm sections. There simply isn't anything innovative.
6. While not scaling great heights, Wildwood is modern, bluegrass-tinged Americana of undeniable warmth. [Summer 2010, p.88]
7. The North Carolina quartet's banjo lopes alongside their classy Americana tunes. [Oct 2010, p.104]
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/63728 | Cool Boarders
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The first title in the long-running PlayStation snowboarding series.
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• "Coolboarders" -- Alternate spelling
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Game Revolution PlayStation Jun 04, 2004 B+ 83
Gamezilla PlayStation 1997 74 out of 100 74
GameSpot PlayStation Jan 31, 1997 7.4 out of 10 74
IGN PlayStation Dec 13, 1996 7 out of 10 70
Electronic Gaming Monthly (EGM) PlayStation Feb, 1997 7 out of 10 70 PlayStation Nov 23, 2011 13 out of 20 65 PSP Nov 23, 2011 13 out of 20 65
The Video Game Critic PlayStation Feb 01, 2006 C- 42
High Score PlayStation Feb, 1997 2 out of 5 40
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/63729 | Bejeweled Deluxe (J2ME)
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You can also swap gems by clicking on one, then dragging it in the direction you want to swap. This can be faster and more efficient once you're used to it!
You can get a Hint at any time by clicking the purple Hint button on the left-hand control bar. This will cause a gem onscreen to flash briefly, indicating that it can be used to create a set.
However, every time you use the Hint button, you will lose points!
In Timetrial mode, you will also lose several seconds of time.
* Music Volume and Sound Effects: you can adjust these volume sliders separately to fit your preferences. * Fullscreen: If this is checked, Bejeweled Deluxe will use your entire computer screen. If it is not checked, Bejeweled Deluxe will be played in a window. It’s up to you to decide which you prefer. * Custom Cursors: If this box is checked, you will see special custom Bejeweled Deluxe cursors in the game rather than Windows standard cursors. If you have a special theme installed that changes your Windows cursors, you may need to activate this option to see the cursor properly in the game. * Help: This will show you instructions on how to play Bejeweled Deluxe. * High Scores: This will show you your best scores in both normal and timetrial modes.
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You can play Bejeweled in either Normal or Timetrial mode. Switch modes by clicking the appropriate button on the left-hand control bar. You will have to abandon your game in progress to switch game modes.
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In Normal mode, there is no timer and you can take as long as you like to make each move. The game will end when there are no more available moves.
Every set or cascade you create will cause the Bonus Bar at the bottom of the screen to increment upwards. When the Bonus Bar is full, you will proceed to the next level.
Each successive level increases the value of all sets and combos!
Timetrial Mode
Timetrial mode is for experienced Bejeweled players who want a fast-paced challenge. In Timetrial, the Bonus Bar at the bottom of the screen continually counts down towards zero. When it hits the bottom, your game is over.
You can replenish the Bonus Bar by creating sets and combos. The bigger the combo or cascade, the more the Bonus Bar will be regenerated.
Filling the Bonus Bar will take you to the next level. Sets and combos are worth more on each successive level, but the timer will also count down much faster!
You can press any key to pause the game while playing Timetrial.
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Alien Nation: The Udara Legacy
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Detectives (Eric Pierpoint, Gary Graham) learn that recent crimes are linked to a secret group of alien freedom fighters.
Cast: Eric Pierpoint , Gary Graham , Peggy McCay , Lane Smith , Michele Scarabelli , Terri Treas , Sean Six , Lauren Woodland
Director: Kenneth Johnson
Genres: Science fiction
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Ripple Effect
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Amer Atrash (Philippe Caland) moved from Lebanon to America with dreams of becoming a major fashion designer. But after 15 years, he is still nowhere close to realizing his vision, and repeated brushes with success have only left him bitter and disillusioned. When his wife (Virginia Madsen) tells him she's considering a divorce, the shock prompts Amer to confess a terrible secret that may be the cause of all his problems. He sets out to remedy his past in the hopes of saving his future.
Cast: Philippe Caland , Forest Whitaker , Virginia Madsen , Minnie Driver , John Billingsley , Kip Pardue , Kali Rocha , Charley Mae Caland
Director: Philippe Caland
Genres: Drama
Distributor: Monterey Media
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Release Date: July 11th, 2008|1 hr. 23 min.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/63767 | What is your child being taught at reception?
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EllieNW3 Sun 10-Mar-13 17:49:41
I would be interested to hear what your child is being taught at reception currently (reading/writing/spelling/maths)? Is the whole class being taught the same or is your child more advanced than others?
The reason why I am asking is that we are currenly living overseas (moving back to the UK this summer) and I think I made a bit of a mistake on choosing an IB school for my nearly five year old daughter. It's a long story but we didn't have much choice and the British curriculum school she was offered a place just didn't seem right and it had loads of negative reviews. When my daughter was at nursery (pre-reception) the teacher thought she was one of the most academically advanced so as my daughter was interested, she introduced her to blending words. Now at her current school the teacher has only just finished going through phonics, sorting words by starting letter and has only just introduced a spelling board for my daughter and she is supposed to be in the most advanced group. I am not as worried about maths, as she seems to know her shapes (3D as well as normal) and is confident with numbers, sorting etc etc.
As we are now moving back to the UK and we are looking for her to go to a British curriculum school I am panicking a bit. I have been teaching my daughter to read at home using the Oxford Read Write Inc (she is currently level 2) and I am focusing on the 45 high frequency words. Ideally, I wouldn't want to be doing as much teaching at home (as let's face it we would much rather be playing in the park) particularly as she already spends so much time at school. I have spoken to her teacher but I understand that they just aren't allocated enough time for teaching basic academic skills (there is a lot of focus on 'topics on inquiry'). Anyway, I could go on for ages. From my experience, whoever told me that there isn't much difference between the IB and British curriculum wasn't quite right (although I did know that IB might be a bit slower at the start, but didn't realise how massive the difference would be!).
Thank you for reading and I would really appreciate to hear your comments x
HorribleMother Sun 10-Mar-13 18:02:01
Are you worried that she'll be unprepared for English year 1? Because from sound of it she's pretty average (ime).
learnandsay Sun 10-Mar-13 18:08:59
My daughter could already read pretty well before starting school and has done lots of topics like farms, space, oceans and whatever, but as far as reading, writing and arithmetic are concerned I don't think the school has taught her anything. But then she knew a fair bit before starting, (probably more than the EYFS curriculum requires) and some way into what Y1 would require.
mrz Sun 10-Mar-13 18:09:45
The 45 high frequency words were scrapped in 2007.
There isn't a British curriculum England has a different curriculum to Wales which has a different curriculum to Scotland which follows a different curriculum to Northern Ireland. So it depends where you intend to settle when you return and next year England may have a new curriculum ...although a new curriculum for reception children was introduced in September ...confused
In England reception children follow the EYFS which is a play based curriculum ..in Wales children follow the Foundation Phase until they are 7 (play based) in Scotland children follow Curriculum for Excellence (you've guessed it ...play based in P1) and in Northern Ireland children follow the play based Foundation Stage ..
The English reception curriculum focuses on the Prime areas Speaking and Listening Personal Social and Emotional Development and Physical Development ...
EllieNW3 Sun 10-Mar-13 18:11:30
Yes, I am a bit worried that she would be 'behind' others. My friend's child who is in a British school here is a lot more advanced in her reading and writing (she is used to be the same as my daughter a year ago) but I guess she is more advanced that most in her class. Her school seems very pushy though. My friend told me that they are tested on 45 high frequency words by the end of reception. They are shown each word and need to say it within a short time and not sound the words out. They are then asked to spell the words too.
mrz Sun 10-Mar-13 18:13:36
The 45 high frequency words were scrapped in 2007 Ellie so your friend's school must be in a time warp
EllieNW3 Sun 10-Mar-13 18:19:12
Thank you for your replies. By the sound of it maybe the teaching in some of the British schools here is a bit old fashioned?
We will be moving to London but it does sound like that my daughter should be ok - phew (-:. I am Scandinavian so I started school at the age of 7 so I did think that some of the schools sound a bit too pushy for 4-5 year olds.
EllieNW3 Sun 10-Mar-13 18:21:19
mrz - clearly so (-:. I know at least two other British schools which still use high frequency words here in Dubai.
learnandsay Sun 10-Mar-13 18:23:54
I'm not sure if mrz meant no high frequency words at all or just a particular group of them which was scrapped in 2007. My daughter's school still uses them. I don't know how many but I think it's more than 45.
mrz Sun 10-Mar-13 18:24:52
EllieNW3 Sun 10-Mar-13 18:25:51
learnandsay - thank you for that. If your daughter supposed to know all of them by the end of reception?
EllieNW3 Sun 10-Mar-13 18:28:28
Sorry meant to say 'iS your daughter..?' (-:
mrz Sun 10-Mar-13 18:28:40
There are 300 HFW in the Letters & Sounds document
mrz Sun 10-Mar-13 18:29:24
They aren't meant to be taught by sight
learnandsay Sun 10-Mar-13 18:29:32
She not only knows them but has apparently gained access to the words cupboard where the words the class haven't been shown yet are kept and she seems to know quite a few of those too. The teacher told me that children who already know the words will be asked to spell them instead of reading them.
mrz Sun 10-Mar-13 18:34:22
learnandsay all children are meant to learn to read and spell the words
learnandsay Sun 10-Mar-13 19:00:31
I've heard you say that before, mrz. That's just what the teacher told me. I don't know what she meant in relation to the other children, (maybe nothing at all.) I didn't ask.
mrz Sun 10-Mar-13 19:01:24
I said it because it's a fact learnandsay
learnandsay Sun 10-Mar-13 19:03:26
That was never in doubt. But what the other children have to do has nothing to do with what my daughter has to do. Maybe that's why the teacher didn't say anything about them.
mrz Sun 10-Mar-13 19:04:54
Floggingmolly Sun 10-Mar-13 19:10:46
Your dd "gained access to the words cupboard". grin You crack me up, learnandsay.
I wonder how you'll cope when your dd's peers begin to catch up, or even overtake her. It's bound to happen.
mrz Sun 10-Mar-13 19:15:00
It concerns me that a "word cupboard" exists
intheshed Sun 10-Mar-13 19:20:21
My DD is in reception, she started in Sept knowing all her letters but not able to read or write whole words, so pretty average I think (unlike learnandsay's DD!). Now halfway through the term she is on phase 3 phonics, able to write simple sentences using phonics to make a good attempt at words she doesn't know, and has just started learning about using capital letters and full stops. With reading, she started on pink books and is now on red books, in what I think is the ORT reading scheme? I also read the Julia Donaldson Songbirds books with her at home and she can read the level 2 and some level 3 books.
In maths she can count to 100 and do some simple addition but I was told in parents evening she needs to focus more on being able to explain the relationships between numbers, eg knowing which is the highest/lowest out of 4 numbers, and number bonds to 10.
Hope that gives you some idea? I was told she is making good progress and where they would expect her to be at this age.
learnandsay Sun 10-Mar-13 19:43:23
I won't know what my daughter's peers are doing, so it's never going to bother me.
wild Sun 10-Mar-13 19:45:49
must get a lock for my words cupboard wink
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/63779 | Battle of the Atlantic
Can you raise the cash for the Battle of the Atlantic Museum?
Colossus codebreaking computer in operation, 1943
Catalogue ref: FO 850/234
The Colossus machine; FO 850/234
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This is a photograph of one of the highly advanced codebreaking computers developed at Bletchley Park. The job of this machine, called Colossus, was to try out thousands or even millions of combinations of possible codes in order to try and decode German messages.
The first Colossus was probably the most advanced computer in the world when it went into operation but after the war every single one was broken up because the project was so secret. This photograph is one of fewer than a dozen that give any idea of what the machines were like.
What’s the background to this source?
From 1940 onwards the greatest danger for Britain in WW2 was that German forces could cut off supplies of troops, food, medicine and equipment from Canada and the USA. This was exactly what the Germans tried to do. This campaign became known as the Battle of the Atlantic. The Germans used submarines (U-boats), aircraft and surface ships to attack shipping bound for Britain. U-Boats received information about targets and also about where to meet up with supply ships by radio. The Germans thought that their messages were safe because they were sent using the Enigma code.
In fact, British code breakers cracked the code, helping convoys to avoid attack. It also helped Allied ships and aircraft to hunt down U-Boats. The key development in cracking Enigma came when a British ship captured a U-Boat in May 1941. A team of code breakers including most famously mathmematician Alan Turing based at Bletchley Park, near present day Milton Keynes, developed machinery like the Colossus to help do this.
It’s worth knowing that...
The work of Turing and his colleagues played a key role in helping scientists and engineers to develop modern computers.
The Colossus machine itself was not used to break the Enigma code. It was used to crack a German army code called Lorenz.
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1. Describe the Colossus machine. Are modern machines this complicated?
2. Does the Colossus suggest that the British government invested a lot of resources in technology and intelligence?
3. What do you notice about the operators of Colossus?
4. Is the Enigma machine a valuable piece of historical evidence?
5. Do these sources help you to explain why the Battle of the Atlantic was so significant?
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Originally Posted by shellyRN07swavy
I agree. My hair never looked this good with cones and I was already avoiding sulfates. Honestly the moment I removed the cones my frizzy waves and snarls changed back into bouncy curls. Not the curls I had as a child but still curly. But I think in my case I might've been I was using so many cones between my cleanser/conditioner and styling products that it just made it impossible for moisture to actually penetrate the hair shaft ? So it seems like if you can get your hair into shape and finally figure out what works for it in general, how to treat it, keep it moisturized, etc., then, once you're confident, you can play with cones. Just make sure not to overdo it. And the best thing is you'll know enough about your hair that you know when you're overdoing it in the first place. But I'm only two months into CG and very happy. My hair has great definition and no frizz which is a real first. I just keep piling on the moisture and my hair says, "More please!" We'll see how I feel in a year or whenever but for now I'm not going to fix what ain't broken.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/63784 | 'How can you beat that typhoon?' Survivors pick through remains of devastated city
TACLOBAN, Philippines - A church spire, its cross hanging loose, looks down on smashed houses, wrecked cars, toppled power lines and snapped trees, as dazed survivors try to count the cost.
A bare-chested man in white shorts squats and wails. Another attempts the once-normal task of washing dishes in a container in a mangled van, as bodies lie abandoned around him.
Two days after one of the world's most powerful typhoons slammed into the Philippines, thousands were thought to have died in a single city: Tacloban.
Tacloban is near here where U.S. General Douglas MacArthur's force of 174,000 men landed on October 20, 1944, in one of the biggest allied victories of World War Two.
Today, men, women and children tread carefully over splintered remains of wooden houses, searching for missing loved ones and belongings. From the air, television footage shows trees pulled from the ground by their roots and ships washed ashore.
Not one building seems to have escaped damage in the city of 220,000 people, the coastal capital of Leyte province, about 360 miles southeast of Manila.
Survivors line up, waiting for handouts of rice and water. Some sit and stare, covering their faces with rags to keep out the smell of the dead.
One woman, eight months pregnant, describes through tears how her 11 family members vanished in the storm, including two daughters. "I can't think right now," she says. "I am overwhelmed."
At the airport, people wait in mud and water after trekking three hours by foot from Tacloban City, hoping to be evacuated by military aircraft. Roads to and from the city are impassable, littered with debris and fallen trees. "We are trying to get to Cebu or Manila," one distraught tourist says. "I must go out."
Only 110 people can squeeze on to each flight. The elderly, sick and children are given priority. Two soldiers carry a man who can't walk.
Jenny Chu, a medical student and local resident, can't recognize her village. "Everything is gone. Our house is like a skeleton and we are running out of food and water. We are looking for food everywhere."
"Even the delivery vans were looted," she adds. "People are walking like zombies looking for food."
Lieutenant Colonel Fermin Carangan of the Philippine Air Force recalls how he and 41 officers struggled to survive huddled in their airport office as winds that approached 195 miles per hour with gusts of up to 235 mph.
"Suddenly the sea water and the waves destroyed the walls and I saw my men being swept by waters one by one." Two drowned and five are missing.
He was swept away from the building and clung to a coconut tree with a seven-year-old boy.
"In the next five hours we were in the sea buffeted by wind and strong rain. It was so dark you couldn't see anything. I kept on talking to the boy and giving him a pep talk because the boy was telling me he was tired and he wanted to sleep."
He finally saw land and swam with the boy to a beach strewn with dead bodies. "I think the boy saved my life because I found strength so that he can survive."
Some expressed anger at the slow pace of rescue efforts but the country's defence chief, Voltaire Gazmin, denies being ill-prepared.
"How can you beat that typhoon?" he says. "It's the strongest on Earth. We've done everything we can." |
global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/63788 | @techreport{NBERw13865, title = "On Inferring Demand for Health Care in the Presence of Anchoring, Acquiescence, and Selection Biases", author = "Jay Bhattacharya and Adam Isen", institution = "National Bureau of Economic Research", type = "Working Paper", series = "Working Paper Series", number = "13865", year = "2008", month = "March", doi = {10.3386/w13865}, URL = "http://www.nber.org/papers/w13865", abstract = {In the contingent valuation literature, both anchoring and acquiescence biases pose problems when using an iterative bidding game to infer willingness to pay. Anchoring bias occurs when the willingness to pay estimate is sensitive to the initially presented starting value. Acquiescence bias occurs when survey respondents exhibit a tendency to answer 'yes' to questions, regardless of their true preferences. More generally, whenever a survey format is used and not all of those contacted participate, selection bias raises concerns about the representativeness of the sample. In this paper, we estimate students' willingness to pay for student health care at Stanford University while accounting for all of these biases. As there is no cost sharing for students, we assess willingness to pay by having a random sample of students play an online iterative bidding game. Our main results are that (1) demand for student health care is elastic by conventional standards; (2) ignoring anchoring bias would lead to a substantially biased measure of the demand elasticity; (3) there is evidence for acquiescence bias in student answers to the opening question of the iterative bidding game and failure to address this leads to the biased conclusion that demand is inelastic; and (4) standard selection correction methods indicate no bias from selective non-response and newer bounding methods support this conclusion of elastic demand.}, } |
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tina-fey-amy-poehler.jpgTina Fey in "30 Rock" and Amy Poehler in "Parks and Recreation."
Though "Parks and Recreation" wasn't "The Office" spin-off NBC had been hoping for, the episodes produced last season were uncomfortably close to what was going on at Dunder-Mifflin Scranton. Poehler's Leslie Knope, a mid-level bureaucrat in the Pawnee, Ind., parks department, was as cheerfully clueless as Michael Scott. In particular, she resembled the Michael of the early episodes, before "Office" writers like Greg Daniels and Michael Schur (the "P&R" creators) figured out how to soften him enough that you could understand how the man kept a job.
It wasn't until the last of those six spring episodes that Leslie developed some self-awareness and the show became much funnier for that. That trend has continued this season. Leslie still has an inflated sense of her job's importance and she still gets too enthusiastic at times, but she's not always dialed up to 11, and it makes sense why more laid-back supporting characters like city planner Mark Brendanawicz (Paul Schneider) or nurse Ann Perkins (Rashida Jones) would want to be her friend.
"I think what the writers intended as 'takes her job too seriously' read to some people as 'oblivious,' " Schur acknowledged in an interview earlier last month. "So we corrected a little for that this year in the scripts."
And by reining in Leslie just a little, Daniels, Schur and company have allowed the other characters to shine more. As Leslie's disinterested but fearsome boss, Ron Swanson, Nick Offerman is delivering a master class in comic minimalism; the less effort he seems to expend in a scene, the more hilarious Ron becomes. (An inspired subplot a few weeks ago put Offerman together with the equally deadpan Aubrey Plaza, as the department's bored teenage intern April; it was like the two were competing to see who could go smaller, and the viewer was the winner.)
As Leslie's obnoxious officemate Tom Haverford, Aziz Ansari isn't doing anything differently from last year, but because Leslie isn't the twit she used to be, it seems a fairer fight when he tries to make fun of her. And though Schneider and Jones are primarily there as the straight man and woman, they're extremely likable and they can deliver when called upon to drive the comedy in a scene. (Jones had a fine time last week role-playing as Leslie's nightmare first date.) And stand-up comic Louis CK has been a wonderful addition as a plain-spoken cop who's sweet on Leslie, but uncomfortable expressing his feelings. ("I was attracted to her in a sexual manner . . . that was appropriate," he tells the "Office"-style documentary crew that follows the characters around.)
Tonight's show is another strong one, with Poehler's former "SNL" co-star Fred Armisen playing Leslie's counterpart from Pawnee's Venezuelan sister city. Where Leslie (who's not as geo-politically savvy as she thinks she is) expects poor and humble people, Armisen is an arrogant, insulting boor who likes to brag about his palatial villa with its four satellite dishes.
"I already know who wins 'Project Runway,' " he tells Leslie.
Placed in another potentially humiliating situation, Leslie puts on a happy face, not because she doesn't know any better (which is how she came across last year), but because she believes that's what her role models would do.
As she explains, "That's why people respect Hilary Clinton so much: nobody takes a punch like her. She's the strongest, smartest, punching bag in the world."
No one's laid a glove on Tina Fey in a while, and with good reason. Her Sarah Palin impression last fall on "SNL" was memorably devastating, and when "30 Rock" is clicking, no other current comedy can come close to it, nor can many past greats.
The problem, unfortunately, is that it's been a while (arguably going back to before the writers strike of late '07/early '08) since "30 Rock" has clicked consistently. There will be brilliant episodes now and again — Oprah's cameo, Jon Hamm's final episode and the one where Jack and Liz turned into Muppets, to name three from last season — but they don't come as often as they did at one point in the series' run.
Now, it's not a sin to not achieve all-time classic status week after week, and Fey does set the success bar higher than nearly any other show on TV. "30 Rock" is trying to simultaneously satirize the TV industry in general and TV comedy in particular even as it's trying to tell vaguely traditional TV comedy stories. It's trying to blend together characters from across a broad spectrum of realism, from Fey's largely down-to-earth Liz, to Alec Baldwin's slightly broader Jack Donaghy, to complete cartoons like Tracy Morgan's unhinged Tracy Jordan and Jack McBrayer's childlike Kenneth. It's trying to do farce on a weekly basis, when even some great past sitcoms like "Frasier" only tried it a few times a season, and it's going for the record for most jokes per minute in American TV history. ("Arrested Development" and maybe "Police Squad!" are the only other shows that belong in that discussion.)
It's nearly impossible to do that many things well, all the time. So there are episodes of "30 Rock" that feel like brilliant comic symphonies from start to finish, and then there are episodes that feel like a collection of amusing gags that never quite cohere into anything. Last season, we got a handful of the former, a bunch of the latter, and an unfortunate couple of episodes (notably the one with Steve Martin) where virtually nothing worked.
The first two episodes of season four fall mainly into the "collection of gags" category, and they're not even particularly strong examples of that. It feels, at times, like the episodes are trying too hard to be self-referential, with lots of jokes at the expense of NBC and General Electric, and with Baldwin seeming to address the audience directly at the start of the premiere, helpfully titled "Season Four." And the second episode leans a little too heavily on recurring guest star Will Arnett (a k a Mr. Amy Poehler) as Jack's rival Devon Banks, a character who works best in smaller doses.
I'm not overly worried. "30 Rock" had a long period at the start of last season where the show was being overwhelmed by Very Special Guest Stars, but then it figured out how to use people like Hamm and Salma Hayek to good effect, and there were a number of great episodes in the season's latter half. And between the growing pains of season one and the writers strike disrupting season two (and the show needing time to regain its footing when it came back), there's never been a wholly satisfying pole-to-pole season of the show.
"30 Rock" (Today at 9:30 p.m. on Channel 4) The Emmy-winning comedy's fourth season begins with the cast of "TGS" struggling with economic cutbacks.
"Parks and Recreation" (Today at 8:30 p.m. on Channel 4) Leslie (Amy Poehler) welcomes a delegation (including Fred Armisen from "SNL") from Pawnee's sister city in Venezeula.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/63895 | Back to the Beginning with Singh's 'Big Bang'
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Author Simon Singh's new book is Big Bang: The Origin of the Universe. The author speculates about what came before the birth of the universe, and what may eventually happen at its end.
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In 1948, George Gamow and his student Ralph Alpher tried to show that the Big Bang model of creation could explain the abundances of the light elements in the universe, such as hydrogen and helium.
As each month passed, Ralph Alpher became increasingly convinced that he could accurately model the formation of helium in the few minutes after the Big Bang. His confidence increased when he found that his calculations agreed closely with reality. Alpher estimated that there should be roughly one helium nucleus for every ten hydrogen nuclei at the end of the Big Bang nucleosynthesis phase, which is exactly what astronomers observed in the modern universe. In other words, the Big Bang could explain the ratio of hydrogen to helium that we see today. Alpher had not yet seriously attempted to model the formation of other elements, but even predicting the formation of hydrogen and helium in the observed proportions was in itself a highly significant achievement. After all, these two elements accounted for 99.99% of all the atoms in the universe.
Keen to announce their breakthrough, George Gamow and Ralph Alpher set out their calculations and conclusions in a formal paper entitled 'The Origin of Chemical Elements', and submitted it to the journal Physical Review. It was due for publication on 1 April 1948, and perhaps this was what spurred Gamow to do something he had been secretly considering for many months. Gamow was a close friend of Hans Bethe, who was famous for his work on stellar nuclear reactions, and he wanted to add Bethe's name to the list of authors, even though he had contributed nothing to this particular research paper. His motivation for adding the extra name was that readers could enjoy the sight of a paper authored by Alpher, Bethe and Gamow, a pun on the Greek letters alpha (a), beta (b) and gamma (g).
Not surprisingly, Alpher took exception. He feared that crediting Bethe would diminish how the rest of world perceived his own contribution to the research. Alpher's name was already overshadowed by Gamow's co-authorship, because Alpher was the young Ph.D. student and Gamow the famous physicist, and adding Bethe's even more eminent name would only make things worse for him. Alpher had done more than his fair share of the work, and now it seemed that he was going to receive only a tiny fraction of the credit.
The paper was posted off for publication, which meant that Gamow could now relax a little, but Alpher still had plenty of work to do. This research was Alpher's Ph.D. project, so he had to write it up independently and in excruciating detail to demonstrate that he was worthy of a doctorate and was fit to climb the academic ladder. Once he had written his thesis, Alpher then had to undergo the ordeal of defending it. He would have to sit alone in front a panel of experts and convince them that hydrogen and helium could have been created in the correct proportions in the moments after the Big Bang. He also wanted to argue that there was a reasonable chance that other atoms could also have been created during this phase. Essentially, he was going to defend the results of his collaboration with Gamow, but relying solely on his own wits, unable to turn to his mentor for advice. If he succeeded, he would be awarded his Ph.D.
Such thesis defences are often public occasions, but it is not a spectator sport with mass appeal, so the audience tends to be just friends, close family and a few academics with a particular interest in the subject. In this case, however, news that a twenty-seven-year-old novice had made a major breakthrough had spread across Washington, and Alpher found himself arguing his case before a packed audience of three hundred, including newspaper reporters. At the end of his defence, the examiners were sufficiently convinced to award Alpher his doctorate.
Meanwhile, reporters had taken special note of one of Alpher's comments - that the primordial nucleosynthesis of hydrogen and helium had taken only 300 seconds. And that was what made the headlines in newspapers all across America over the next few days. On 14 April 1948, The Washington Post announced WORLD BEGAN IN 5 MINUTES. For few weeks Alpher enjoyed a degree of celebrity. Academics showed interest in his work, a curious public sent him fan mail and religious fundamentalists prayed for his soul.
However, the spotlight soon faded and, as he suspected, he became lost in the shadow of his illustrious co-authors, Gamow and Bethe. When physicists read the paper they assumed that Gamow and Bethe were responsible for the major breakthrough, and Alpher's name was overlooked. The spurious addition of Bethe's name for comic effect had extinguished any hope that Alpher may have had for some long-term recognition. Today, even physicists are largely unaware of Alpher's crucial role in the history of the Big Bang model.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/63896 | Study Questions Bone Benefits of Calcium, Vitamin D
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Taking calcium and vitamin D doesn't necessarily protect the bones of older women. That's the news from the same Women's Initiative Study that said low-fat diets aren't all that beneficial in fighting heart disease and other ailments.
Well, first we find out a low fat diet isn't necessarily healthier than a regular diet. Now comes another surprise on the health front. Calcium and vitamin D supplements may not help protect older women from osteoporosis. NPR Patricia Neighmond reports on the latest results from the seven year, 18 million dollar Women's Initiative Study. It's the same one that raised questions about the benefit of a low fat diet.
Barbara Duncan is probably typical of many female consumers. She just turned 40 and since her early 30s she's been taking calcium and vitamin D supplements.
Ms. BARBARA DUNCAN (Consumer): I'm taking 1,000 milligrams of calcium minimum per day and 400 milligrams of vitamin D. It's actually in the calcium.
NEIGHMOND: And like many of us, she's hoping these supplements will protect her.
Ms. DUNCAN: I'm hoping I'll be able to age and not be breaking my hips and my bones, keep me strong, strong bones, and I won't be a woman with a humped over back.
NEIGHMOND: The results from this study say, well, maybe. Researchers followed over 32,000 women between the ages of 50 and 79. About half were assigned to take what Duncan takes, 1,000 milligrams of calcium and 400 units of vitamin D every day. The other half took a placebo. After two bone density tests over seven years, researchers found this possibly surprising result. Among women taking supplements, there was only a slight gain in bone mass and virtually no significant difference in broken hips compared to those on placebo.
Researchers are quick to say this doesn't mean women should throw out their calcium pills.
Dr. Rebecca Jackson is an endocrinologist at Ohio State University, and lead author of this study.
Dr. REBECCA JACKSON (Endocrinologist, Women's Initiative Study Author): Post-menopausal women, especially women over the age of 60, can gain a modest benefit in preserving hip bone mass and preventing hip fractures from taking calcium plus vitamin D.
NEIGHMOND: Women over 60 are at greater risk for bone fractures and for them there was a 21 percent decrease in broken hips compared to placebo. And a greater benefit was found as well for women who faithfully took the supplements.
Dr. JACKSON: For women who took the full dose of 1,000 milligrams of elemental calcium and 400 units of vitamin D3, they experienced a significant 29 percent decrease in hip fractures, which was four fewer hip fractures per 10,000 women.
NEIGHMOND: Some researchers say the benefits of calcium might've been greater if the women had taken more vitamin D. They took only 400 units and many doctors now recommend twice that.
Dr. Joe Finkelstein is one of them. He's an endocrinologist at Harvard Medical School. He says vitamin D helps the body absorb calcium. The findings of this study, he says, suggest that for many women, calcium and vitamin D is only the starting point when it comes to protecting bones.
Dr. JOE FINKELSTEIN (Endocrinologist, Harvard Medical School): I actually think that most women should have a bone density test once they enter the menopause, and use that information to help determine whether or not they need therapy in addition to calcium and vitamin D to prevent bone loss.
NEIGHMOND: Drugs like disphosphanates, for example, that really target and shore up bones. But even if women need this extra treatment, Finkelstein says they should still get the recommended daily allowance, 1,000 milligrams of calcium and 400 units of vitamin D.
Women can get that from supplements or from food and food may just be the better option. Women in the study who took the supplement saw an increase in kidney stones. So women might want to take to heart the advice of consumers like Barbara Duncan, who knows where to find her calcium. In food.
DUNCAN: Your dark leafy vegetables have it, and milk, of course. But I prefer to take, eat the broccoli and the dark lettuce, the dark, dark vegetables have lots of calcium.
NEIGHMOND: Calcium is easier to digest in food, another reason why doctors recommend that when women take their supplements, they take it with meals. Patricia Neighmond, NPR News.
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External Recycle Bin Thrives on Human Misfortune
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This nifty concept is really quite simple: it’s an external hard drive that only stores what you delete. Of course, if you’re deleting something, you probably want to be rid of it, so the point of this thing is a little dubious, but still. The “Tempo” (as it’s called) was designed by Franco Cagnina, and while it makes sure you never permanently delete something it apparently can be used as a regular external drive with 250Gb of space (Is that “bits”? Shouldn’t it be “bytes”?). The colored LEDs covering the Tempo slowly creep upwards as it reaches maximum capacity. Besides looking good, the Tempo also reinforces the ideal of a “recycling” bin; something that you can add to and remove from.
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By Mary Beth Breckenridge Published: May 22, 2012
Is there anything better than making something from nothing?
That's what I like best about my new earring organizer.
I'd looked at some wall-mounted organizers online, but everything cost a lot more than I was willing to shell out. So I devised my own by gluing a scrap of window screening to the back of an old 11-by-17-inch picture frame, spray-painted black.
Earrings with plain hooks fit right through the screen holes, and I repurposed some Christmas ornament hooks for hanging my lever-back and hoop earrings. I can even hang post earrings by pulling the bottom of the organizer away from the wall a little bit to give me access to attach the earring backs.
Now my earrings are no longer in a tangle in a basket. Instead, they decorate my wall when they're not decorating my ears.
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3. Stabilizing genetic information to ensure safety of recombinant organisms.
Fv-fragment guided input module
To design detection-input mechanism with modular character, as opposed to the use of possibly existing two-component signalling cascades with specificity to e.g. parasite larval stages, we could exploit the specificity of antibodies to their substrate. Several teams in iGEM have used Ab's, attempting to alter the specificity of cell-surface receptors towards a desired target (e.g. Illinois 2008). To circumvent problems with direct manipulation of the receptor molecule, while incorporating the wide spectrum of potential targets, that could be recognized in an anitbody based approach, the Fv fragment of a given antibody is fused to the ligand of a suitable native two-component system. Figure 2 illustrates the principle of the Fv-fragment guided detection system.
1. . Expression of the Fv-ligand-fusion protein (detector protein). Since the production of Fv fragments in prokaryotes has not been successful so far, a eukaryotic system is preferred (e.g. Yeast).
2. . The detector protein is secreted into the extracellular environment.
3. . Due to the high specificity of the Fv-fragment to its substrate, the detector protein binds to a given pathogen.
4. . Spatial co-localization of detector proteins on the pathogens surface is mirrored by clustering of receptors for the ligand-fragment, in the detector cell. This leads to the induction of a downstream signalling cascade to trigger a response module.
The system has several features which render it interesting:
• An extremely broad array of potential targets that can be detected, exploiting the power of molecular recognition via Antibody fragments.
• A highly modular character. Exchangebility of specificity and potential to link the system to virtually any given response system
• Very close to real world applications (parasites, toxins etc).
Two central issues come along with this system:
• A suitable secretion system has to be found to allow efficient trafficing of the detector protein into the extracellular space.
• Production of false positives has to be prevented. A requirement for clustering and crosslinking of several receptors for signal generation could solve this problem.
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David Alciatore, PhD ("Dr. Dave") ILLUSTRATED PRINCIPLES "Squirt, Swerve, and Throw Wrap-up"
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In case you haven't noticed, I just dedicated the last 20 articles (almost two years worth) to
squirt, swerve, and throw. I'm sure many of you are thinking: "enough, already!" Well, before
moving on to other topics, I wanted to give some examples that bring together some of the
information in a "big picture" sort of way.
Diagram 1 illustrates all of the effects that come into play when using English. To refresh
your memory, squirt, also called deflection, refers to the angular change in the initial cue ball
(CB) direction due to an off-center hit. In other words, when you use English, the CB doesn't go
where you are aiming because of squirt. The amount of squirt increases with the amount of
English. For more information, see my August `07 through March `08 articles and NV 4.13, NV
A.17, and NV B.1. The CB also swerves (curves) on its way to the object ball (OB). The amount
of swerve depends on cue elevation, shot speed, and distance between the CB and OB. For
more information, see last month's article and NV 4.14, NV 7.12, and NV B.1. Sometimes, the
phrase "effective squirt" or the term "squerve" is used to refer to the net effect of both squirt and
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/63998 | The Origin of Life (RJS)
Among the issues shaping the origins debate, the most complex scientific questions surround the origin of life. Gerald Rau outlines some of the confusion and uncertainty concerning the origin of life in chapter 4 of his book Mapping the Origins Debate: Six Models of the Beginning of Everything. I’ve written on this before, but it bears repeating with emphasis.
From the point of view of science, the origin of life is a wide open problem with a great deal of speculation, some experiments, and very little hard evidence. Part of the problem, as Rau emphasizes, is that life formed rapidly on earth once it cooled. Well, “rapidly” depends on context of course. The earliest fossils date to somewhere around 3.6 billion years ago. Thus it appears that life formed within 1 billion years of the formation of the earth, within half a billion years of the time the earth cooled sufficiently to allow rock formation, and probably within a 200 million years or so of the time the earth cooled below the boiling point of water.
But how did life originate? Textbooks and such, especially at the K-12 and even undergraduate level often leave the impression that it is a solved problem – all that remains is to fill in minor details, dot the i’s and cross the t’s so to speak.
One website www.kidsbiology.com puts it like this:
Earth’s ancient oceans, while lifeless, but were filled with the chemicals needed for life. These chemicals were not alive, but they were there, sloshing around. They call these chemicals “Primordial soup”. Instead of alphabets, this soup was filled with amino acids, proteins, lipids, and other basic components that are commonly found in life forms today.
It is believed that life began on the shores of these ancient oceans, in pools of water called tidal pools. These shallow pools would have been full of this “life soup”. Over many millions of years, as the ingredients of life splashed around in these pools, possibly helped by lightning strikes, they formed the first cells.
Another site – geared toward helping students prepare for the SAT (sparknotes.com) says:
Life on Earth began about 3.5 billion years ago. At that point in the development of the Earth, the atmosphere was very different from what it is today. As opposed to the current atmosphere, which is mostly nitrogen and oxygen, the early Earth atmosphere contained mostly hydrogen, water, ammonia, and methane.
In experiments, scientists have showed that the electrical discharges of lightning, radioactivity, and ultraviolet light caused the elements in the early Earth atmosphere to form the basic molecules of biological chemistry, such as nucleotides, simple proteins, and ATP. It seems likely, then, that the Earth was covered in a hot, thin soup of water and organic materials. Over time, the molecules became more complex and began to collaborate to run metabolic processes. Eventually, the first cells came into being. These cells were heterotrophs, which could not produce their own food and instead fed on the organic material from the primordial soup. (These heterotrophs give this theory its name.)
Not only are these broad brush descriptions simplified – they are, quite simply, wrong. The atmosphere likely contained little ammonia or methane, rather a good bit of CO2 – more like Mars or Venus today. Electrical discharge, radioactivity and ultraviolet light make a mixture better classed as goo – and goo that is not exactly conducive to life. Even if there were shallow pools of amino acids, proteins, lipids – and organic soup – formation of life by chance as the textbooks suggest is not really a plausible hypothesis.
Rau refers to Simon Conway Morris’s book Life’s Solution: Inevitable Humans in a Lonely Universe throughout his discussion of the origin of life. Conway Morris emphasizes that we don’t really have a clue how life developed on this planet. The synthesis of organic goo – from simple hydrocarbons to larger polyaromatic hydrocarbons and even amino acids is straightforward. Such compounds are common in the universe. Many experiments have tested possible mechanisms for the formation of the building blocks of life, adenosine, ribose, amino acids, carbon chains. The most famous of these is the classic Miller-Urey experiment which is used to suggest that the “ease” of synthesis of amino acids in conditions resembling the early earth should make the formation of life inevitable. But cosmic goo and vats of tar are not well suited for the formation of life.
We can make this more explicit. Experiments have demonstrated that building blocks for life may be synthesized in a variety of conditions, some similar, perhaps, to conditions on the ancient earth. Yet never in quantity, never with much purity, not with selectivity, and requiring wildly disparate conditions for different pieces of the problem. Some need extreme heat, other compounds degrade almost immediately unless cooled. Some require basic conditions – some acidic. There is no “one-pot” approach. According to Conway Morris:
It is not my intention to suggest that the origin of life is a scientifically intractable problem, but at this stage of the proceedings simply to register mild surprise at the relative lack of experimental success. … The real problem is getting past this first stage, from the early organic ‘soup’ [however envisaged] to the metabolic and biochemical highway, with a functioning cell as its destination. (p. 47, Life’s Solution)
Even the simplest cell is an incredibly complex object. It almost certainly did not happen by chance. In some fashion the origin of life is encoded into the universe, either into the natural laws of the universe or through some supernatural “seed” or action.
The lack of any clear evidence or convincing mechanism for the formation of life makes this a something of a case study for the role assumptions play in the approach to the problem. Rau looks at the question in the context of the six models for origins that he has outlined (see the post Models, Models, Models for a description of the models Rau considers).
Natural Processes. One who holds to a purely natural view of the universe must, of course, assume that there is an entirely natural explanation for the origin of life. In some fashion the origin of life is encoded into the natural laws of the universe. The puzzle is to figure out how life came about. Along with naturalistic evolution, Rau adds those who hold to nonteleological evolution and planned evolution to the cohort who must look for a natural explanation. In his definition these groups hold a prior philosophical commitment to the idea that God did not intervene in natural events. (As an aside, this rigid definition of planned evolution is one of the reasons I find Rau’s models insufficiently nuanced. The gap between planned evolution and directed evolution is too large.)
Creationist Models. In contrast to the models that require natural mechanisms, both old earth creation and young earth creation hold that life is too complex to have arisen “by chance” and that it is far more likely that God created life intact – as the first cell, or as the different kinds of fully formed creatures. Many of the intelligent design arguments, such as those found in Stephen C. Meyer’s book Signature in the Cell, focus on the complexity problem as evidence for a designer. I did a long series on Meyer’s book, you can find this through the Science and Faith link at the top of the page. While I disagree with many aspects of Meyer’s argument for design, he lays out the complexity of the problem reasonably well.
Directed Processes. The final model, directed evolution stands apart from both the “hands off” evolutionary models and the creationist models. Unlike the other five models, Rau suggests that this model does not have a philosophical commitment that wholly determines the interpretation of the evidence. A number of explanations for the origin of life will emerge but “[t]he thing they will all have in common is the idea that God directed low probability events to achieve his purposes in creation.” (p. 99) This model suggests that direct interaction by God during the process of the origin of life shaped the outcome.
When making something we typically collect the materials, then assemble them according to some predetermined plan, often modifying the pattern as we go to achieve the desired result. Applied to the origin of life, this would mean that although certain raw materials might be formed by deterministic processes, the low probability of them coming together in the proper arrangement by chance could have been overcome by the action of an agent. (p. 99)
It seems to me that the directed evolution view does have a philosophical commitment that wholly determines the interpretation of the evidence. That commitment is that God directed the events to achieve his purposes. That direction may be indistinguishable from natural mechanism, or it may be in some fashion detectable, if only through the vanishingly small probability that an undirected process could have achieved the result.
The bottom line. I think the origin of life is an interesting scientific question, but it is a question for which we may never have a complete answer. We certainly won’t have an answer within my lifetime, or the lifetime of anyone reading this post. As Christians it doesn’t do us much good at all to argue about this one. The Big Bang and the origin of life may be one-off events where God played a direct “unnatural” role in the process, or life may have arisen through “natural” processes. Obviously those who deny the existence of any supernatural reality will dispute the possibility of a direct or indirect role for God, but it really is a philosophical commitment.
In Rau’s discussion I find the distinction between planned and directed evolution unproductive because it doesn’t really wrestle with what it means for God to be the creator and sustainer of the universe, including life. One of the commenters on an earlier post noted “All the categories seem to drive a wedge between God and nature, rather than view the workings of nature as the very hand of God; that the whole universe hangs together and is sustained by God.” This hits the nail on the head in my opinion. The definitions of planned evolution and directed evolution both drive a wedge between God and nature. This is seen clearly in the discussion of the origin of life here. This wedge causes us to ask ill-posed questions and insist on incomplete answers. My philosophical and theological commitments on the origin of life are not well described by either planned evolution or directed evolution as described by Rau.
My scientific view is that the origin of life is a complex, hard, and fascinating question. We will learn much in the attempt to understand the process whether a final solution is ever attained or not.
What have you been taught about the origin of life?
Which of the views above (or something else) best describe your thinking on the subject?
• Susan_G1
My organic chem prof (a Jesuit) was convinced that Oparin (primordial soup) was correct. I think that was the only science class in which that question was addressed. I was not as sure as he was.
I have no problem with God sustaining the universe and all of His creation by putting into effect the laws that govern matter and energy. It makes more sense to me than what a colleague of mine believed – that God was literally holding every atom and subatomic particle in place by His constant willing of it. That is the God of Rabbi Kushner. It may be the case, but to my mind, God is capable of more.
As a (former) scientist, I cannot fathom that God did not direct life in a manner quite beyond single celled organisms. It seems to me that life is far too complex to arise otherwise. What comes closest is a direct sci-fi-like terraforming. But I won’t know this side of life.
• Norman
Once we determine how life originated here on earth we get to figure out where the Universe came from and then what lies beyond that and beyond that and beyond …. and on it goes.
I do like the idea that life may actually have some systematics of origin that we can examine albeit possibly on the sub atomic level that is “somehow” ingrained into the structure of the material universe. I would tend to look at Morris’s work of convergence where we see on the cellular level a pattern arising that is directed by circumstances that are varied but tend to coalesce toward the same general results.
Not only on the cellular level but on the macro level that lead inevitably to humans although one can say it took 3-4 billion years of cellular activity and physical circumstances to bring us forth. And then we had to have just the right physical catastrophes happen ever so often just to set the stage for our unique appearance. There was abundant flowering and de flowering of life that seemly was a prerequisite in order to bring Homo sapiens into fruition for our so far short time span.
• AHH
It can’t be emphasized enough that the “origin of life” question is DIFFERENT from the “evolution” question. One is about how life got started in the first place, where scientific knowledge is quite dim. The other is about how existing life (however it first got there) branched out and developed through common descent, and there we have strong evidence at many points.
I’ve seen too many Christians, many out of ignorance but also some who should know better, take arguments against a natural origin of life (like those in Signature in the Cell) and think that these arguments somehow defeat “evolution” (common descent). If you see some apologist doing that, it’s a pretty clear sign that they are using dishonest rhetoric and/or that they don’t know what they are talking about.
• http://mikeblyth.blogspot.com/ Mike Blyth
I don’t know a whole lot about origins of life research, but I wonder if “we don’t have a clue” is a fair summary of the field. From your reading of Conway’s book, does it seem that he understands and engages the field as it is today and not just “primordial soup” as it was in the 60s?
• Marshall
Disagree … in both cases you are climbing a slope of increasing complexity against chaotic or entropic forces. At the bottom you are talking about chemical equiibria, as you move up you are talking about assembling and maintaining complex features, but (in a naturalist framework) in all cases you are looking for a pathway of incrementally successful teensy tinesy steps.
So before there were cells, I suppose there were free-floating proteins, similar to viruses, which evolved. The trick is to think of an environment that drives things in the right direction. One used to hear about clay crystals being catalyzed by proteins … seems like a cool idea to me.
• RJS4DQ
In neither case are you climbing a slope of increasing complexity against chaotic or entropic forces.
Rather in every step the entropy of the universe increases.
Sure, in a naturalistic framework there must have been successful tiny steps. But we have no evidence or mechanism as of yet. In contrast we have an abundance of evidence and at least part, likely most, of the mechanism for evolution of diversity once we start with a one cell organism.
• Marshall
Personally, it seems obvious that the universe is an extension of God, or of God’s
will, but identity doesn’t seem appropriate either. I prefer a teleological universe: the in-breaking Kingdom. God is going somewhere with all this, and we haven’t arrived yet. I imagine the process as somewhat like industrial chemistry … mostly the pot boils on it’s own and reactions progress, but at critical points the chemist turns the heat up or down or adds new ingredients, a bit of yeast to leaven the whole, as it were. Of course God can do much finer tweaks than that. Maybe we could call that “controlled evolution”.
Why would God do it that way instead of shazam hey presto? Because this works. Maybe laziness. Maybe because he likes the accidental effects arising from “free will”. Maybe he has no choice for reasons above my pay grade.
“We certainly won’t have an answer within my lifetime, or the lifetime of anyone reading this post.” … unless …. ;-)
• Marshall
In a closed system entropy increases, but in can decrease locally at the expense of increase somewhere else. Eg, refrigeration works to keep the butter cold although it consumes power that warms up the kitchen.
“In neither case …” Sincerely confused by this remark. Don’t you think a contemporary rain forest is more complex than a Cambrian algal flat? In the sense of “takes more bits to describe”. Less an example of a simple pattern. ???
• Susan_G1
Do you believe all life evolved from the first successfully replicating single-celled organism?
• Susan_G1
AHH, are “quite dim” and “purely theoretical” in the same ballpark, or do you think there truly exists something more than theoretical? Not hostile; I believe you have read more about this than I have.
• RJS4DQ
Of course the entropy can decrease locally, but only because it is coupled to an increase elsewhere. The slope is always “down” whether we are talking about origin of life or evolution of diversity. (Where down = increase in entropy.). I think it leads to confusion when we focus on the local situation and forget the whole picture.
• AHH
Well, I’m no expert at all. As I understand it there are bits and pieces and hints, some plausible theory (not for the whole process, but for some steps along the way) and some bits of those supported by (or at least consistent with) some bits of evidence. You could look up “RNA world” for one plausible hypothesis. So it is not 100% theorizing, but so far real progress has been quite limited. I tend to agree with RJS that this won’t be figured out in our lifetimes, and maybe any evidence is so lost in the mists of the past that it can’t be figured out, at least not with the level of confidence we now have with evolution. So Christians should not be dogmatic about it — maybe it happened “naturally” and maybe it didn’t but either way we affirm that God is the creator of life.
As I recall, there is a decent summary of the state of knowledge (as of a few years ago) in the book by Simon Conway Morris that RJS references.
• AHH
I didn’t claim that there were no parallels or connections between the two.
But they are distinct questions, one of which is pretty firmly settled (at least in basic outline) by strong evidence while the other is mostly a set of question marks. My main point was that it is detrimental to constructive discussion when the two questions are conflated.
• Marshall
Sure you can always find a larger system where the slope is down, but seems to me the question in your headline is, “What is pushing to local peaks up?”
That is, the mean atomic density of the observable universe is something like 1 proton per 4 cubic meters, and decreasing at an increasing rate. Very little theological content there. “For though your people Israel be as the sand of the sea, only a remnant of them will return. Destruction is decreed …” Isaiah 10:22 (and Romans 9:27)
• Rob Bradford
I agree with AHH. The origin of life question is remote from the evolution question. I was very impressed with Paul Tillich’s idea that God is existence itself. This probably makes the origin of life question pale in comparison with Tillich’s concept. However we may make sense of the idea, it could affect our understanding of the universe and how it began. |
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Also, in 5.8.8 and 5.10 there is a difference between -w and -W (note lower / upper case). The link to perlrun, above is older and doesn't mention the distinction. -W (uppercase) allows no override with no warnings; and so might be used in development with -w in prod if you want the chore of fine tuning your prod warnings with no warnings; as opposed to taking them out altogether like DrHyde.
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• "..Numerically sort the 'verse' keys before printing to get the correct order..."
Agreed 100%. Original POST corrected.
• "..I would question your departure from the array-based nature of verse storage in the first place.."
Reference for each of the verses separately informed that decision of mine.
If I have done, like so:
... else { push @{ $bible{$book}{$chapter}{'verses'} }, $_; }
Then output would have been like so:
"Genesis" => { "chapter 1" => { verses => [ "1 In the beginning God created the heavens and + the earth.", "2 The earth was without form, and void; and da +rkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hoverin +g over the face of the waters.", ], }, "chapter 2" => { verses => [ "1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the +host of them, were finished. ", "2 And on the seventh day God ended His work wh +ich He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work w +hich He had done.", ], }, },
which ofcourse is cool and probably faster [ not tested though ]. But I thought, what if we decides to refer to each of the verses?
• "..I would also question how your book/chapter/verse parsing would handle books like "1 Corinthians", "2 Thessalonians", etc.,.."
One can of course use the roman numbering like "1 Corinthians", "2 Thessalonians" would then be "I Corinthians", "II Thessalonians", "III John", etc
Finally, like I said in mine OP and you rightly pointed out this is all critically dependent on the exact format of the data johnko is parsing, which is not revealed to us
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You youngin' don't know how good you have it
by Macphisto (Hermit)
on Apr 27, 2001 at 23:12 UTC ( #76234=monkdiscuss: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??
I was having a conversation with kilinrax and we got onto the subject of how we wish online communities had sprung up earlier, or we wished we had discovered them earlier. The younger members of this community, like zdog, damian1301 and mt2k don't realize just what they've stumbled upon. I'm sure they recognize the value of the community here, but they probably don't recognize the stepping stone they've found.
It probably sounds like one of thoes "When I was your age..." bits, ( Hey! I'm only 21 ) but it is true. For those of you who either weren't able to get to online communities or those who were here before the internet really sprang up and got moving ( god bless al gore ), compare the rate of learning you experienced with the online community you joined versus how you were doing on your own. Granted, you might have been learning at a spectacular rate, but I'd be willing to bet that most, if not everyone, began learning at an accelerated rate.
I've been sticking my noses into computer books, and teaching myself languages since I was in the 6th grade. I started in BASIC and when I'd hear of something new I'd check it out. I was doing well. By the time I was in high-school, I was fixing the computer science teachers code,and helping out with the people who were maintaining the school networks. But, I can only imagine where I'd be if I had found a good online community. Yea, I had BBSes and USENET and all that, but it wasn't a constant community, and at times could get Troll laden, or run by egos. I can only wish I'd discovered alternative OSes like Linux, Fbsd, etc, when it first started up, but I'd never heard of it until college. I'd love to be at that level right now! I'm sure that had the online communities been around earlier, I would be far more advanced in my knowledge. I wish I'd been able to see the things that Chris was doing with seemingly random ideas and turning them into incredible project. Or to have tye or tilly to bounce ideas off of or have them take a look at my code and point me in a different, sometimes better direction.
When I started learning perl, I picked up Learning Perl by merlyn read it cover to cover and went searching for more to read. I lucked out on an online search and came across I've been here close to nine months, and i can't believe how fast I've learned. I've met a ton of great people ( as well as one surly drunken dwarf ), and gotten an education that my college never could privide.
In the conversation with kilinrax, I stated, "They don't realize what they've found," and cow piped up and said, "Or what they're doing to it." And she's right. There are those that are too immature to really handle how these places should be. I'm not saying it shouldn't be immature but we end up with people trolling and just trying to get rises out of other people, which in turn brings everyone down. But, on the other hand, some may come to the community a little rough and end up turned into a fine perl-monkey machine. I remember back when zdog would drive Ozymandias up the wall, and generally get on a lot of peoples bad sides. But look at what this kid does now! He's one of the more mature 15 year olds I know. A pontiff! 2907 xp! Putting out great japhs! I'm sure that online communities such as this contributed to his maturity. I hope I'm not wrong
If you think about it, every helpful thing you do here, helps someone out, makes them a better programmer which they hopefully pass on. What knowledge we propagate! We get to practically build them better, faster, smarter ... how cool is that?
Oh yea, and we're probably training our replacement ... :)
Anyone have any similar thoughts, or just think I'm full of crap?
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Re: You youngin' don't know how good you have it
by WebHick (Scribe) on Apr 28, 2001 at 01:19 UTC
You are definitely not full of crap! God, you have no idea how much I would have killed to know about this place back in May '99, when I started learning Perl on my own. As I mentioned in a recent node, I'd still be wandering around in the dark creating bad code and being proud of it.
This place has been a very educational forum for me and plenty others, I'm sure. Whenever I have a question, it's already been answered. Whenever I don't understand something, there's a good chance someone else has already explained it. And of course, the community itself is, for the most part, friendly.
As for the immaturity level - that applies to all ages. I generally work with people 20+ years older than me and let me just say: Have you ever seen a 40 year old man in perfect mental health throw a temper-tantrum? It isn't pretty. Moving on...I'll go out on a limb and admit that I'm 20. I have a habit of acting my age. :( But thankfully, many monks have tolerated it, but not for much longer I'm sure. And why should they have to? Acting like a brat only brings down the quality of the site. But on the other hand, "people" experience ushers maturity. And maturity increases the quality of the site. ::Ouch:: My brain hurts. But, without knowledge a person's people skills will lack because they will no longer have something intelligent to say. So, I've once again backed myself into a state of confusion... PerlMonks appears to increase both knowledge and relational skills, thereby increasing the maturity of any visitor who wishes to participate in the community long enough to benefit from it.
I know a very prominent CEO at a very cutting-edge and successful company who, when hiring new employees, takes an incredible approach. These college graduates come into the office to be interviewed for a very technical and well-paying job. They think that college has given them what they need to succeed and that they're some kind of commodity because they got a 4.5 GPA for their entire academic career. Most of them leave the interview in tears. This CEO forces them to realize that without real-world experience, they're nothing but a framed little piece of paper to hang on the wall. That without the ability to go where they need to get the answers they need, they're not worth investing in for they'll have a hard time progressing in their chosen field. Of course, that's just the first interview, the second concentrates on relational skills. I swear, this guy likes creating suicidal programming monsters!
Re: You youngin' don't know how good you have it
by patgas (Friar) on Apr 28, 2001 at 02:43 UTC
It seems I come from the same cloth as both of you. I'm 20, I've been teaching myself various programming languages since I was 8, and am just now beginning to use my knowledge for a (slight) financial gain.
Anyway, I compeltely agree with you about the benefits of a quality online community such as this. I've only been attempting Perl for about a month, and I was fortunate enough to find this place almost immediately. I can honestly say that this has been the most directly useful website I've ever used. I can gush on and on about PerlMonks, but I guess I should ramble on to my point:
While a solid online community is great, a real community is fantastic.
Even from my BASIC days, I never really found anyone that I could relate to about programming. I tried desperately to get my friends, even family, interested to no avail. In high school, I took a BASIC and C++ class ( for obvious GPA-related reasons *ahem*) and much to my dismay, noone there actually cared about the finer art of coding, they just wanted to make flashing pictures, or loop a curse word a 1000 times. They just weren't hackers, to use the cliche. I suppose I still blame my lack of getting any great projects completed partially on the fact that I never had anyone to motivate me. Writing a few cool hacks feels good, but when nobody understands or cares, you begin to feel a little dismayed. Fortunately, through discovering Perl (and Linux), I've found out that a couple of my friends were also closet geeks. Not to sound immodest, but they're not as knowledgeable about programming as me, but they're really willing to learn, and it's great to teach them what I know, and learn things in return.
So I can wrap this up by saying this: Use PerlMonks, PerlMonks is fantasgreat. But don't give up trying to find living, breathing people around that could be just as hacker-ish as you.
And that's why I'm not an English major...
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Re: You youngin' don't know how good you have it
by KM (Priest) on Apr 28, 2001 at 03:14 UTC
Re: You youngin' don't know...
by footpad (Monsignor) on Apr 28, 2001 at 03:34 UTC
Hm. Seems all the comments to date are from twenty-somethings. Well, let's see what a few more years adds to the conversation, if anything.
I've been working on computers for around twenty five years now. My first experience was with a teletype connection to a local (at the time) community college. I used it to play TREK and other games; I also used to to poke at the various libraries on programming and so forth. I never had a lot of time on it, but something stuck. I was 14 and the big argument of the day was whether or not it was wise to let TI-30 calculators into Math classes.
A few years later, the high school I attended purchased a TRS-80 Model 1, complete with the newly shipping cassette drive for off-line storage. I quickly devoured the BASIC manuals and started poking at its version of ASM programming. The next year, they bought three Model III's. The Math teacher, placed in charge of the nascent computer lab, would frequently rail at a friend and me regarding the huge amount of time we were "wasting" to write programs to play games, to do simple little graphics, ala the "Star Wars" titles (this was 1980; "Empire" was imminent), and writing D&D helper programs (Character Generators, Dungen Generators, Dice Rollers, and so on). He felt computers should be used for real work. We ignored him and continued to poke at them as best as we could.
After graduating (and a few adventures I won't detail now), I managed to land a very entry level database programming/PC Support job at a Federal Agency. It was here that I learned the wonders of being online. I parleyed an account at the local university, taught myself just enough Unix to use FTP and discovered wonderful treasures like the now-defunct SIMTEL20 archives and USENET. I would scan the archives like crazy, downloading free compilers, tutorials, sample code, and so forth (including copies of the infamous Phrack papers that I carefully hid from management). Spent way too many hours digging through what I found and reading what I could learn.
After graduating college, I (eventually) took a job with a commerical software company (detailed previously) and found myself a sysop of their CompuServe forum. In the year that followed, I learned more about the product I was working on and database programming than I had in the previous five years working for the TLA agency. Not only were the questions far more twisted than I could have invented myself, the experiences were far more varied than I could have imagined.
Throughout this time, I frequented BBS's, a few different newsgroups, FidoNET, and a few other communities.
I kept the CIS account after moving out of tech, primarily because I didn't want to lose track of the friends I'd made online; I also kept it after leaving that company, because it'd become my primary online interface. (I actually still have that account because every so often, some sends an email to it.)
Of course, these days, we all use the Web for such things. However, some things remain the same; specifically, there are communities that are worth investing time in. The Monastery is one and the current incarnation of that older support community is another. (I won't detail it because it's not really important.) When you are lucky enough to find people willing to freely share their experiences to teach and to help you avoid their mistakes, use that and learn from it (respectfully, of course).
The whole idea of Open Source, public domain software, and similar ideas, is that information should be free. When you find a trove of such information, savor it and contribute back. Doing so continues the success of the movement, introduces new people to its inherent fairness, and (as you point out) trains the next generation of leaders.
Today's 14 years olds are tomorrow's twentysomethings. By then, you Gen-X'ers will be running your own departments and leading your own teams. If you learn from the experiences you run into and the ones shared with you on your journey, you can avoid the mistakes that lead today's 40-year olds to throw temper tantrums.
By then, of course, I'll be pottering around some home, nursing acute carpal tunnel, sweetly reminiscing about the secrets one could learn through a 300-baud modem, and fondly recalling text adventures played on green screens with 7x9 pixel characters.
Show of hands: How many monks built themselves a terminal from a kit? (I'm thinking Heath 19).
Not entirely defunct...
SIMTEL20 still exists in some form...
Re: You youngin' don't know how good you have it
by dusk (Friar) on Apr 28, 2001 at 18:54 UTC
I'm 14, so obviously I've heard a lot of the "when I was your age" speeches. And...
You are definitely not full of crap..
As JAYPM (Just Another Young Perl Monk), I feel both honored and privileged to be a part of the PerlMonks community. With the help of PerlMonks, I am learning more and more about perl each day, and every helpful node I see, puts me at an advantage.
PerlMonks has been the foundation of my learning, since day 1; And I have never been to a more friendly and open enviroment dealing with programming.
I have been using UNIX for several months (although unrelated), and have been coding (or, fooling around with programming) since I was 11; I have experience with Logo, BASIC, JAVA, and now I'm learning Perl. And, from experience I can say that of all the references, and CS courses, nothing has been as helpful as PerlMonks.
PerlMonks covers everything for serious and newbie perl scripters..
• Seekers of Perl Wisdom: post a snippet, get a fix
• Categorized Questions and Answers: for a more broad question, ask away in a less chaotic part of the monastery
• Library: for detailed help on a specific element or idea
• Tutorials: having trouble (or no idea) how to complete a task? check this out
• Snippets Section: for small bits of sample code
• Code Catacombs: A very useful section for both sample code, and finding solutions others have wrote to problems of your own.
These sections, in my mind, hold the answers to Perl enlightenment.
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Re: You youngin' don't know how good you have it
by kevin_i_orourke (Friar) on Apr 30, 2001 at 15:32 UTC
I'm amazed at how much of a difference a community like this makes. I started learning Perl in Antarctica, without any internet access, only a copy of 'Programming Perl' and it was a slow process, all by myself.
Just being able to look at questions other people have asked really makes life easier. Tutorials and stuff like that are also very useful.
Kevin O'Rourke
Re: You youngin' don't know how good you have it
by traveler (Parson) on May 01, 2001 at 19:34 UTC
This site and concept are good even for "old farts". I've been programming for about 27 years. (I started with punch cards on an IBM026 keypunch for those who remember what that was). I learned C from K&R 1st edition (and the C Tutorial from Version 6). I started learning perl from merlin's book, but I cannot say that I've stopped. In fact, I learn something every day I read stuff here.
Thanks to all who contribute either questions or answers!
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64043 | note sundialsvc4 <p> Obviously, the algorithm that you present probably is not the <em>real</em> one, but this simply looks to me like something that ought to be able to benefit from sorting and/or grouping on the database level. Is there truly <em>nothing</em> that you can do in that query in order to produce aggregated results? Also: you still must have a breakdown of the timing, even if you simply print the time-of-day to STDERR at the point at which the query-prepare is finished and the point at which the first row of data is produced. I’ve got several terabytes of data storage on my computer right here, and even though it takes a while to move that much data around, and even though it’s not squirting through a large TCP/IP network, I don’t believe for a second that “16 days” can’t be very significantly improved upon. </p><p> You should also, just to be sure, <tt>explain</tt> that query (since it doesn’t use the verb <tt>inner join</tt>), to make sure that it’s not doing something absolutely insane such as a Cartesian product at any point. (16 <i>days ...</i> what would do that? Anything along those lines would. If there are no indexes, you probably just found your problem, and <tt>explain</tt> would confirm or deny it.) </p><p> Probably the number-one improvement would be any way whatsoever by which you can prevent all that data from being transmitted. The second would be to avoid a massive hash that must accumulate before its contents can be dumped. For instance, if the data were or could be indexed by what you call “marker,” then you could <tt>select distinct</tt> a list of those markers and process them one at a time, perhaps in parallel. It would no longer have to grind away for 16 days without producing anything and at the ever-present risk of producing nothing at all. If meaningful, it might be able to say, “I already <em>have</em> that file, and it looks like I don’t need to produce it again. (If the data were stored back in a table rather than a CSV, the server might be able to do that with the help of a <tt>join</tt> ... and the whole process might conceivably become the candidate for a stored-procedure or for a process running directly on the database-server, thereby avoiding across-the-network I/O. </p> 1000794 1000794 |
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August 12th, 2011, 01:10 PM
I don't do it that much, but when I do I can stay editing the post for a good ten minutes tweaking and adding things to it for the sake of an argument or so on.
August 12th, 2011, 01:22 PM
I do, especially if I make a grammatical error; I like to keep my posts neat. x)
August 12th, 2011, 01:37 PM
Well, I generally re-read my posts like 3 or 4 times before actually posting them, so I rarely do have to actually edit, but if I find something to change after the fact, I'll always fix it.
August 12th, 2011, 01:39 PM
After I post it? No, but before I post it there's probably some typos so I edit that before clicking Submit.
August 12th, 2011, 01:41 PM
I never proof read before I post, after typing up a bigger than usual post I'm MENTALLY EXHAUSTED so I just submit it before I somehow manage to accidentally delete it.
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August 12th, 2011, 01:50 PM
Frequently. Often to add a bit more detail on something I feel I left a little vague or to correct a grammar or spelling mistake that got past me.
August 12th, 2011, 01:57 PM
It never occurs to me to proofread the post beforehand, so usually when I'm sitting there proudly after making what I think was a good post, I notice that I've missed out a crucial word or made a grammatical mistake, so I try to edit it.
But it's too late.
The world saw it.
It's too late.
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August 12th, 2011, 02:16 PM
No. I usually don't read my posts even after I posted them.
August 12th, 2011, 02:24 PM
i do quite a fair bit, yes
August 12th, 2011, 02:44 PM
I edit if I see a typo or someone ninja'd me and I'd like to reply to them as well. I never edit to add more information that I didn't think of before though.
August 12th, 2011, 02:50 PM
It's a frequent thing for me. I write a post, I post the reply, and I reread it to see if I'm sure if that's what I wanted to say. if I find a typo or something that I should have not said, then I just click on the edit button and edit. xD
August 12th, 2011, 02:51 PM
Because you think it's wrong or because you just never think to or have any to add? I do it all the time. I'm always scrambling to add it because I'm afraid somebody will respond or see it before I add it lol.
August 12th, 2011, 03:16 PM
I almost always edit my posts, for various reasons, mainly grammatical or spelling mistakes, adding or removing content that would make my post better/worse, or to remake it entirely if I realized the point I was making was awful, or I misread the original post.
August 12th, 2011, 03:18 PM
I edit in things only if I left something out. Nowadays, I don't think I edit as often as I used to.
August 12th, 2011, 03:45 PM
I tend to proofread my posts a couple of times before actually posting them, so no not a lot -- however, there are times when the auto-spelling check thing does not work on my browser and I write a word wrong, so I have to edit.
August 12th, 2011, 05:06 PM
I used to think my posts out so well that I'd never have to edit them. Nowadays, I almost constantly find myself hitting the edit button at least once. It's like I always think of something important or witty to add (or find something worded badly) just as I hit Post Quick Reply so then I have to scramble to edit right away. :/
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August 12th, 2011, 05:10 PM
I can't be bothered editing most of my posts anymore, but I used to edit them all the time. I often forget pressing the disable smilie button, and want to keep changing my posts however.
I just edited my post btw because i spelled 'changing wrong XD
August 13th, 2011, 05:10 PM
Most of the time, surprisingly not. You think I'd edit more because I write my posts pretty quickly. Then I remember it's OVP and posting is easy. And then I cry a little on the inside for not posting anywhere else. ;____; But OVP!
Only times I really edit are if I notice a typo, if I remember something somewhat important, or if for some reason I post without actually finishing what I was saying. It happens sometimes.
August 13th, 2011, 08:52 PM
As any good regular here may know, I edit my posts incessantly. The reasons have been many over time, but not malicious.
August 14th, 2011, 06:12 AM
Yeah, for various reason really, maybe I did a typo or wrote something wrong. xD
Shining Raichu
August 14th, 2011, 06:19 AM
Yeah, I do it all the time. I probably average around 10 edits per post. Sometimes I can even come back and read an old post days later and edit it again. It's a sickness, really.
August 14th, 2011, 06:38 AM
Not so much these days since I've gotten myself into the habit of proofreading my posts just in case something reads a little funny. . . . though it does bug me quite a bit when something odd gets through. I tend to get paranoid over little mistakes and make a mad dash to edit the post before anyone can see.
August 14th, 2011, 08:03 AM
Sometimes, but only when I make a spelling mistake or if I want to add more input to the post.
August 14th, 2011, 11:02 AM
Sometimes if I'm trying to make a point clear, or if I'm too lazy to post again. :s
August 14th, 2011, 11:09 AM
Too lazy to edit post and spell check posts
Captain Fabio
August 14th, 2011, 11:11 AM
This really, but I normally preview a post before I actually post it so I won't have to edit it.
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August 14th, 2011, 01:41 PM
I'm usually too lazy to edit any of my Post but if I know that I wrote something that the grammar is so bad or wrote the incorrect information, then of course I will edit my post. The probably happens to me once a month.
August 14th, 2011, 02:12 PM
I'm never honestly happy with the posts I make so even though I read through them while I'm replying to threads, I'm still editing them for a little while afterwards unless I really can't be bothered, in which case the post will have been pretty short and generally awful anyway.
I normally have reasonably good grammar in posts but it's just the order of writing which I have trouble with; I'm always trying to decide which parts of the post should go where and I can mentally switch it around several times before making an edit. At which point, I often decide that I still don't like it and edit it back or even delete the post altogether!
August 14th, 2011, 02:18 PM
This. I edit mine a LOT. Mostly because I usually just type what I want to and then read it over once...if I'm in a hurry, which usually I am it makes for some very annoying mistakes and/or typos. So when I finally read my own post after it's made, I go back and I correct what I must correct. It's kind of an anti-ninja measure mostly...Post now, proofread and fix after ya know.
Captain Hobo.
August 14th, 2011, 05:38 PM
I usually will leave the mistake and say "They'll know what I mean" XD
But, every once in a while I will edit them.
August 14th, 2011, 05:42 PM
....Almost every time I post. I notice typos I didn't catch after I posted something, and sometimes think of something else to say to make my post more worthwhile.
Otter Mii-kun
August 14th, 2011, 07:15 PM
I end up editing most of the posts I make, usually to fix spelling/grammar errors and to clarify certain details. There are a variety of other reasons also that I can't really explain here. Sometimes I end up editing the same post several times over.
August 14th, 2011, 07:28 PM
I usually proofread before I post, but I do have to read over again after I post because I feel "insecure."
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Elite Overlord LeSabre™
August 16th, 2011, 05:39 AM
If I spot a typo I'll hit edit immediately. This seems to happen to me more often that I'd like to admit, but I'd rather not leave an embarrassing typo in my posts.
Pokemon Trainer Touko
August 17th, 2011, 05:32 AM
I rarely edit my posts after I post them because I'm too lazy 8D
August 17th, 2011, 08:20 AM
The edit button is useful if you do something wrong or want to add something but no-one posted below you :)
August 19th, 2011, 07:39 AM
I always edit my posts, but the reasons usually depends.
For example, if I'm posting in a CQ&F thread, unless it's a sticky, I always edit afterwards for some reason to clarify, or explain more since I don't like being beaten, therefore, I only add in the most important information immediately then go into detail within the next 5 minutes before the "you last edited" thing appears. If I'm locking a thread I'll edit in to add in the HerdierLock, since I usually don't have its url on hand when I'm locking (again within the five minutes). If I'm posting in general, I'll read over to make sure it makes sense and edit a few words (except for in trivia threads).
And finally if I'm creating a thread I'll edit it like 10 times within those 5 minutes because I'm obsessed with the formatting looking neat or something.
Betting I won't edit this post, though.
Maple Leaf
August 19th, 2011, 07:56 AM
Yes, I almost always edit my posts. I hate typos so much. ;;
August 19th, 2011, 03:02 PM
Nope, I just type, click post, and move along. =D
Mr Cat Dog
August 22nd, 2011, 12:21 PM
Not really. I tend to want to move on to other posts very quickly, so even if I make loads of mistakes in my posts, unless they're particularly egregious, I'll probably just leave them in.
Modding stuff, though, I'm careful to get right the first time. Normally that means proofing rather than editing... but I certainly put more effort into locking/moving a thread than non-mod stuff such as my daily OVP binge. |
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Old September 21st, 2012 (03:43 PM). Edited January 2nd, 2013 by Golurks Were Meant to Fly.
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~The Nervous System Challenge~
Nervous? You should be. (oh so punny)
-The goal of the game is to beat the elite four using six pokemon. Here's the catch:
-Your team will work somewhat similarly to the human nervous system, with a pokemon representing the brain, a pokemon representing the spinal cord, a pokemon representing each arm and a pokemon representing each leg.
-If the pokemon representing a certain part faints, it is dead and you can not use the advantages that pokemon gives. (so the challenge becomes harder and harder as you go, as more and more handicaps are placed on you - it's basically a modified nuzlocke)
-Here are the repercussions for when a certain pokemon dies (also, each penalty stacks)
-One of your leg pokemon: You can not run away from pokemon battles
-Both of your leg pokemon: You can not run, you must walk or use your wheelchair. (bike) You should try to use your wheelchair whenever possible.
-Left arm pokemon: You can not go into your bag during battles
-Right arm pokemon: You cannot switch pokemon in/out in battle
-Spinal cord pokemon: Once this pokemon dies, so do all the other appendages (so say good bye to your legs and arms) and you gain all the penalties for losing them
-Brain pokemon: Once this pokemon dies, the game is over
-You should catch all your pokemon before the third gym, but you don't have to. If you don't have all your pokemon after the third gym, optional rule number 4 is no longer optional. (So make sure you have your brain pokemon, because otherwise, you instantly lose. Also, make sure you have your spinal cord pokemon, or you can't use any appendage pokemon.)
-Trading is okay, as long as all pokemon being traded in are level five or lower (or eggs)
-Trade evolutions are okay
-No switching up your party (you must decide before you start the challenge (just putting it out there))
-However, you can have HM slaves before getting all your party members. Once a party member is obtainable, you must get rid of your HM slaves
-If a party member dies, you can fill their slot with an HM slave
-Obviously, HM slaves cannot go into battle, ever. If all your current challenge pokemon in your party faint, the challenge is over, similar to a nuzlocke
-And I think that's about it! :D
Optional Rules:
-1. You can only use electric types, pyschic types and any pokemon with a speed over 100.
-2. You have a time limit, as speed is essential in the nervous system. You have 24 ingame hours to beat the game. (you can set the time limit lower if you like)
-3. If a pokemon is poisoned, it is considered dead, as poison targets the nerves. If a pokemon is paralyzed, it is considered dead.
-4. Until getting your pokemon, you are inhibited (so if you don't have the pokemon representing your left arm, no bag)
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64091 | Cut Chemist
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His Vinyl Weighs a Ton: An Interview with Cut Chemist
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Cut Chemist: Outro (Revisited) EP
29 May 2012 // 5:00 PM
Cut Chemist's new single "Outro (Revisited)" is a frantic teaser from his forthcoming sophomore album Die Cut.
Cut Chemist: The Audience's Listening
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'Renegades of Rhythm' DJ Shadow + Cut Chemist - New York
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DJ Shadow and Cut Chemist forged their third turntable project, the 'Renegades of Rhythm Tour', from their careful curating of records from Afrika Bambaataa's collection.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64094 | From Dust
Chasing Achievements in ‘From Dust’ Makes Me A Better God | 11 Aug 2011 // 10:00 PM
In this god game you only become godly when you replay a level, and even then you're limited by the free will of your people.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64098 | Snow Patrol
Eyes Open
by John Bergstrom
16 May 2006
Even before Snow Patrol frontman Gary Lightbody drops Sufjan Stevens’s name, you get a good idea of what Eyes Open is all about. Lightbody sums it up earlier in the same song, when he asks, “Why would I sabotage the best thing that I have?” For all his wet-eyed emoting, then, Lightbody is a bean counter at heart. Because on the evidence here, the best thing Lightbody has is the money that comes from a world-beating, surefire hit.
You can’t accuse all bands of selling out on the album that gets them popular. Take Snow Patrol, for example. After a couple DIY albums, they were dropped from an indie label, meaning that they sold no albums outside their immediate families and closest friends. So you can’t blame them for falling in line when major label Polydor gave them a second chance. For some bands, hired-gun producers, radio-friendly mixers, and power chords aren’t a sellout—they’re survival. Plus, 2004 breakthrough Final Straw was pretty good arena-friendly indie-rock, targeting mainstream tastes without sacrificing Lightbody’s vulnerability and stinging way with a lyric.
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Eyes Open
US: 9 May 2006
UK: 1 May 2006
No, some bands sell out on the album after the one that gets them big. Because, at that point, they have the commercial capital to challenge themselves, their audience, even their label. Doing this doesn’t require an In Utero or Kid A, just some creative growth, the desire to peek around a new corner. Just ask the Flaming Lips. Lightbody, though, has turned tail and run toward the middle of the road… and past it.
Some people can’t stomach Woody Allen movies because they can’t watch without thinking of his personal life, however good the film may be. Eyes Open is far from a horrible album. It’s easy to listen to, it’s melodic, and it’s well-read. But you’re a strong (or naïve) listener if you can get past the calculation, the number-crunching, the crassness with which Lightbody has taken aim at the MySpace demographic. He might well be a Sufjan Stevens fan, but is it a coincidence that Stevens provides indie credibility and a name that plenty of “Friends” will actually recognize?
Maybe, just maybe, Lightbody merely noticed that “How to Be Dead” and “Spitting Games” were the two best songs on Final Straw, because most everything on Eyes Open attempts to rewrite them either lyrically, musically, or both. “You’re All I Have” is blissful enough, with its “Wouldn’t It Be Nice”-cribbing intro to the ooh ooh-ing and chugging guitars. But then, during the bridge, Lightbody gets stuck repeating the phrase “Gimmee a chance to hold on” four times in row, and you can almost feel him computing the radio-friendliness of his next move. “Beginning to Get to Me” swirls up some real tension, while “Finish Line” evokes a sort of washed-out euphoria. The music is professional, clean, and faceless. Try answering a question like, “What does Snow Patrol’s drummer sound like?”. Erm… ProTools?
The genuine moments are offset by tracks like “Chasing Cars”, which would probably be the result of programming “Alternative Power Ballad” into IBM’s Big Blue. It’s only a matter of time before this bit of treacle plays over the end credits of a Lindsay Lohan vehicle (This just in: right idea, wrong show: “Chasing Cars” has been placed on the season finale of Grey’s Anatomy). Even Lightbody’s lyrics seem to have been dumbed down. In place of a line like “Dr. Jekyll is wrestling Hyde / For my pride” from “How to Be Dead”, “Make This Go on Forever” offers this set of rhymes: not-got, should-could, fight-right, and long-wrong. And all this in service of a Britrock-by-numbers arrangement and over-the-top chorus that tries to be fatalistic but comes off like Andrew Lloyd Webber doing Fleetwood Mac’s “The Chain”.
Maybe this all sounds too cynical. But how much slack can you cut an album that comes with crowd singalongs already included (see “Shut Your Eyes”)? Lightbody’s supposed to be a humble, everyyoungman Belfastian. You might expect this sort of cold calculation from Robbie Williams or the Goo Goo Dolls. But Lightbody’s not Robbie Williams and Snow Patrol aren’t the Goo Goo Dolls. Yet.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64137 | Venstar Launches API for Its Thermostats
Patricio Robles, Contributing Writer
Jan. 23 2014, 01:00PM EST
Venstar, a thermostat and energy management system supplier, announced this week that it has added a built-in JSON REST API to its ColorTouch touch screen residential and commercial thermostats.
Using the API, developers can build applications that access a thermostat's sensors, and retrieve data reports and alert states generated by the thermostat. In addition, Venstar's API provides command and control functionality, enabling applications to change a thermostat's settings, such as its schedule. Documentation and code samples for the API are available publicly on the Venstar Developers website.
Applications serving multiple thermometers on a network can identify those thermometers using the Simple Service Discovery Protocol (SSDP). Customers must explicitly enable the command and control functionality, and the API respects device security settings by requiring a PIN when the thermometer's screen has been locked.
One company that has already integrated with the Venstar API is Remote Technologies Incorporated (RTI), a manufacturer of control systems for professionally-installed residential and commercial electronics systems. RTI customers using Venstar ColorTouch thermometers can manage those thermometers, along with all of their other home electronics, through their RTI controllers or RTI's mobile apps.
The Nest effect
Venstar's announcement comes on the heels of Google's $3.2bn purchase of Nest Labs, which makes a smart thermostat and smoke detector. Google's acquisition of Nest raised eyebrows not just because of the ten-figure purchase price, but because of the potential implications.
Some suggested that if the acquisition is to prove successful, Nest's API would play a crucial role. As Roberto Medrano, EVP, SOA Software, noted, the "Nest API, combined with Google’s heavily secured application platform, makes it rather simple for users. Invisible to them is the API working in the background to connect their thermostat and home environment data to their Gmail account, Android app, or any other piece of the Google product powerhouse. The API is the little nugget that will drive whatever success comes out of this acquisition."
Given just how big a role Google's products play in the digital lives of so many consumers, it would seem to be incredibly well-positioned to capitalize on the burgeoning "internet of things," but Venstar's launch of an API demonstrates that established companies aren't necessarily behind the curve either. Businesses of all shapes, sizes and ages increasingly recognize the importance of APIs and, most importantly, many are developing and executing their own API strategies.
In the smart device market, if companies like Venstar, which are well-established lucrative high-end and commercial markets, quickly add well-designed and easy-to-integrate APIs to their products, consumer-focused upstarts like Nest may be far less disruptive going forward when they come to market.
With that in mind, as APIs find their way into more and more devices, companies would be wise to prepare for the day when an API is more likely to be a standard feature customers expect than it is to be a billion-dollar differentiator.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64138 | The Yahoo Operating System
John Musser
Apr. 25 2008, 04:11AM EDT
At yesterday's Web 2.0 Expo keynote, Yahoo's CTO Ari Balogh announced YOS, Yahoo Open Strategy, a major transformation that will ultimately give developers access to a vast array of Yahoo services including mail, sports, search, the Yahoo home page, mobile, My Yahoo and others. It's an ambitious "rewiring" of Yahoo that includes development tools, an application platform, and unified social profiles.
The first public piece of this effort is the project code-named Search Monkey, initially announced back in February: an extensible, open approach to search. Later this year Yahoo will unveil Y!Open which among other things will expose social network services and tools for developers including news feed-style streams, which they refer to as "vitality".
Although this announcement comes only days after Google announced iGoogle is becoming a social network, Ari stated that "We are not creating another social network. We will rewire the entire experience to make it social. We don't think of social as a destination but as a dimension."
Yahoo's Neal Sample provides more background on Yahoo's blog and you can view the Ari's Web 2.0 Keynote here:
Yahoo used the occasion to remind folks just how vast their reach is: 500 million unique users and 120 pageviews per month. And with 10 billion relationships on Yahoo buddy lists and address books, "there’s a massive, latent social network within Yahoo!, and we’re going to bring it to the surface".
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[...] There’s a rapidly growing number of ways for websites to tap into online social networking services to allow their users to connect with each other. For publishers who want to add social network functions to already existing websites, one notable option is Yahoo!’s new Updates API, a web service that provides permission-based access to the actions of any user with a Yahoo! account. As part of Yahoo!’s Open Strategy (Y!OS), this API essentially allows developers to treat the Yahoo! network as a social networking platform (see our coverage of the Y!OS announcement and the YQL launch). [...] |
global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64164 | Eat To Lose Weight
Want to lose weight? You may think the answer is simply to eat less. Wrong. The solution is all in the eating.
Adapted From: Foods Cures, Reader's Digest Canada
If you can manage to ignore the siren song of ever-present vending machines and fast-food joints, there’s good news: You can eat enough to feel full, without taking in too much fat or too many calories.
In a study of 38 common foods, researchers found that high-protein and high-fibre foods were much more satisfying than high-fat foods. Cakes, cookies and other fatty foods were the least satisfying, which may account in part for why you end up gobbling down such big portions when you eat them.
If you really want to enjoy what you’re eating, focus on flavourful—and above all, filling—foods. Enjoy fibre- and nutrient-rich whole grain rice, tabbouleh salad and vegetable soup instead of nutrient-stripped white rice or bagels, fat-filled potato salad or cream or corn soup. Losing weight doesn’t mean going hungry, it means eating well.
Whole Grain, Fruit and Other High-Fibre Foods
Eat a bowl of brown rice topped with chickpeas and sautéed vegetables for lunch, and it’s likely you won’t want another bite until supper. High-fibre foods like these have few calories, little fat and lots of bulk, which keeps you full.
Aim for: 25 to 35 g of fibre per day. A cup of chickpeas has about 7 g and ½ cup of bran cereal has more than 8 g.
Fresh Greens and Raw Veggies
Head for the salad bar. Greens and raw vegetables like carrots, zucchini and broccoli are remarkably low in calories but high in water and slow-digesting fibre, so they tend to fill you up. Researchers have found that people who eat a vegetarian diet weigh and average of three to 20 percent less than meat eaters.
Aim for: five to six servings of greens and other nonstarchy vegetables per day.
Fish, Meats and Other High-Protein Foods
Getting enough protein when you’re dieting helps you lose fat, not muscle. A study by British researchers shows that high-protein foods help trigger the release of a hormone that reduces hunger.
Aim for: a good source of protein at every meal. Women should get at least 165 g of protein a day and men 190 g or about 20 percent of daily calories.
Researchers believe that the healthy fat in nuts helps people feel full, and the protein may use up the calories as it digests.
Aim for: 30 g or a small handful a day, in place of a high-carb snack.
Dairy Products and Other High-Calcium Foods
Here’s a reason to drink milk your mom didn’t know about: It may help you lose weight. Calcium may play a part in how fat is broken down and stored. The more calcium in a fat cell, the more fat it burns.
Aim for: 1,000 to 1,200 mg daily, about the equivalent of one cup of yogurt plus two cups of skim milk.
Start your day sunny side up. A single egg has 6 g of high-quality protein and 14 essential nutrients, such as zinc, iron and vitamins A, D, E and B12. Best of all, it contains only 85 calories. And since eggs are high in protein, it makes sense that they keep you full.
Aim for: three or four eggs per week.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64166 | Studied sound: Paying attention pays off
Inner Space
at Coupe DeVille's
Saturday, June 5
Every summer, after the students and other college hangers-on fall off the face of the earth, I make my yearly pilgrimage to Coupe DeVille's on the Corner to see a random act, for comedic value (summer is the one time of year when Coupe's isn't flooded by stereotypical students and going there feels a bit like braving the lions den).
Saturday night found me sitting at one of Coupe's fine outside tables, awash in a sea of checkered cloths, with barely a soul to ignore my presence. Besides my little bulkhead of journalistic endeavors, only one table graced by three boisterous souls greeted the band, Inner Space, at the time of their scheduled starting bell. So they waited for more merry youths to show, and so did I. But I studied the group as they set up, with an eye to deducing their sound. Here are a few of my notes, scrawled on my cocktail napkin:
Clue 1: The drummer possesses a fine set of dreads, while the group's other two members have long thick manes.
Clue 2: There seems to be no vocal mic.
From those clues I came to the conclusion that the group was an instrumental jam band (dreads signify jam or occasionally reggae, but rather than looking like they could smoke their clothes if need be, all except the drummer resembled stereotypical computer programmers). And, by Jove, I was right on the mark.
From left to right, Inner Space is made up of a keyboardist, guitarist, drummer (whose set bore four toms, if I am not mistaken), and a bass player, and after 34 minutes of slowly setting up, the group got down to it. Instead of taking the group's whole sound in at once, a method that has often proven the death knell for jam bands, I decided to study each part in turn, where the changes were, and what my impression was. Here are my notes for the first song:
Section 1: One bass note for two minutes w/ wahwah guitar noodling. Rapid fire and tasty organ lines
Section 2: Pipes of pan-type keyboard sound. Wah guitar chords
Section 3: Nintendo game sounds effect on the guitar. Drums doing the same thing as before, bass a little different flourishes at the end of that one note.
My scribblings continued in this vein for the entire 15 minutes. Let's just say that studying Inner Space closely made me appreciate what the group was attempting much more– though parts of their songs appeared to be made up on the spot, the group would pull back together for a nice melodious section where the non-percussion instruments played complementary parts.
The entire group was well trained in their instruments, especially the keyboardist, whose runs could be heard beneath the guitar more than occasionally. I might venture to add that placing her a little more out there in the group's sound mix would be a nice change. I guess once in a while studying really does pay off.
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Toru lost his most of his memory in an accident. He can't remember anything that's happened in the past six years. Toru struggles, and with time, he slowly recovers his memory. He feels as if he is a different person now, and he hates "the other guy" - the "himself" from six years ago. Thinking Fujishima was his friend, he felt like he was being watched over by a guardian angel, but in the end he was betrayed. Miserable and emotionally drained, Toru is trying not to live in the shadow of his past. He's trying to move on with his new life... but harder he tries, the more he finds himself being pulled in by Fujishima.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64245 | Palace in Angola
Palace in Angola, Luanda
Clients: Tecnilab
Start Year: 2008
End Year: 2009
Short Description:
The palace is more than 100 years old and built using colonial style architecture with mansonry consisting of two storey balconies and an internal court. The building has experienced some settlements in the center that caused substantial cracks on the facade.
Aim of monitoring:
To monitor the cracks and settlement over the frontal facade.
Systems: SOFO
Number of sensors: 12
Main results:
Presidential Palace in Luanda
SOFO sensors location
Related Papers:
Application of SHM techniques in the restoration of historical buildings: the Royal Villa of Monza, A. Del Grosso, A. Torre, m. Rosa, B. Lattuada, 2nd European Conference on Health Monitoring, July 7-9, Munich, Germany - 2004
Monitoring of Heritage Structures and Historical Monuments Using Long-Gage Fiber Optic Interferometric Sensors - An Overview, Branko Glisic, Daniele Inaudi, Daniele Posenato, Angelo Figini, Nicoletta Casanova , The 3rd International Conference on Structural Health Monitoring of Intelligent Infrastructure - SHMII-3, November 13-16 - (on conference CD) - 2007
Long-term deformation monitoring of historical constructions with fiber optic sensors, D. Inaudi, N. Casanova, B. Glisic, 3rd International Seminar on Structural Analysis of Historical Constructions, Guimaraes, Portugal, November - (Univrsity of Minho Publisher, pp. 421-430) - 2001 |
global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64283 | Are Zombies Logically Possible?
And Why It Matters
A philosophical zombie is a being physically indistinguishable from an actual or possible human being, inhabiting a possible world where the physical laws are identical to the laws of the actual world, but which completely lacks consciousness. For zombies, all is dark within, and hence they are, at the most fundamental level, utterly different from us. But, given their definition, this singular fact has no direct implications about the kind of motion, or other physical processes, the zombie will undergo within its own world. Under quite standard physicalist assumptions, such as certain assumptions about the 'initial conditions' of the zombie's world and that of the causal closure of the physical1, a zombie's behaviour, as well as its underlying physical state, should be indistinguishable from the behaviour and physical state of a genuine human being.
The first case envisaged above is that of the beloved 'zombie duplicate' -- in particular, my philosophical zombie is one which is physically indistinguishable from me. This is the case most usually invoked in discussion, since it can be granted that I, at least, definitely do possess consciousness. But if we grant that human beings in general are conscious beings then the second case will serve our philosophical thought-experimental purposes just as well, while avoiding the (perhaps ultimately irrelevant) complications that perfect physical duplication might involve. For example, it is arguable that the only possible world that could have a perfect physical duplicate of me would have to be totally physically identical to this world and hence might be the very same possible world. This problem could arise independently of any concerns we might have that consciousness is somehow a relational property, via an assumption of the complete causal inter-connectedness of the physical realm.
It is, of course, far from clear that any two worlds that are physically indistinguishable are thereby the same world, but assuming otherwise at this stage seems to come close to begging one side of the question to be explored here. However, I don't think this worry is really very plausible, even if we accept physicalism, since it appears quite possible for there to be physical things which are completely causally isolated from each other. Many modern cosmological models allow for this, or even demand it. If so, possible worlds could differ physically in ways that have no effect on the physical states of certain parts of them, and hence there could well be a physically different world with a physically indistinguishable duplicate of me in it.
Before considering the mere logical possibility of philosophical zombies, I want to digress briefly on the matter of their actuality or nomological possibility. A real zombie would be an actual being who is either physically identical to some human being, or is physically identical to some genuinely possible human being but who is utterly lacking in consciousness. To assert that zombies are nomologically possible would be to assert that in some world that shares all of its laws with the actual world there is a being identical to some actual or genuinely possible human being who is utterly lacking in consciousness. Of course, the existence of a real zombie would entail that zombies are nomologically as well as logically possible, but the reverse entailments do not hold.
The robust sense of reality so necessarily lacking when discussing the logical possibility of zombies, should instantly reassert itself if we ask, even while, for the moment, granting the possibility of zombies, whether there are, or are likely to be, or ever have been, any real or even just nomologically possible zombies. Clearly, the question of whether there are any philosophical zombies actually lurking among us is a form of the venerable problem of other minds. I take it that this question deserves the same kind of answer as other distinctively philosophically skeptical questions, such as whether the world might have been created five minutes ago, or whether there is any 'external' world at all.
Note an important difference here between skeptical questions like those of other minds and external reality and what I take to be quite non-skeptical, though distinctively philosophical, worries, such as the problem of the freedom of the will. The problem of freedom depends upon a tension between commonsense, intuition and certain interpretations of what we know (or think we know) about the laws of nature. This tension is such that the intuitive appeal of belief in the existence of free will seems to be in prima facie conflict with scientific knowledge, and the familiar arguments against the existence of freedom exploit this tension in various ways. The skeptical hypotheses are not like this. They conflict equally with all of intuition, commonsense and what we know about the laws of nature. Thus trying to defend seriously either the actual existence or the nomological possibility of zombies would require denying those laws of nature which seem to link physical states to states of consciousness. Of course, we don't know very much about these laws, but it is already abundantly clear that there are any number of quite particular regularities between neural systems, states and processes and varieties of conscious experience, and many of these are already being scouted out by our rapidly developing neurosciences (for just one striking example see Tong et.al. 1998).
So the worry that there are real philosophical zombies somewhere hereabouts, or that they are even nomologically possible is a kind of skeptical worry. How, in general, should we respond to specifically skeptical challenges? It would be great if we could show that the challenge was incoherent, but that's a rare treat. More typically, it seems evident that the skeptical worry is a worry at all just because it is prima facie coherent, that is, it seems to be at least logically possible. For example, I don't think there is much doubt that the hypothesis that, for example, the universe was created five minutes ago in precisely the state it was in five minutes ago is coherent, and that is tantamount to saying that it is logically possible that the world was created five minutes ago. Similarly, it seems fairly obvious that it is logically possible that I am in the matrix right now, or being deceived by the evil genius about the very existence of an external physical world.
But I don't believe that any of these hypotheses are true; in fact I regard them as spectacularly unlikely, and in violation of certain physical laws which I take to hold in the actual world. You probably agree with me on this. Furthermore, I think that I know that the world was not created five minutes ago, despite the fact that I concede that a 'radically young' universe is logically possible. Philosophically speaking, I think that any epistemological theory which led to the conclusion that I did not know that the world was very old solely on the basis of the logical possibility of the opposite and utterly independent of whether or not it is true that the world is very old, would be a deeply flawed account of knowledge (that's not to say such flawed account have never been offered).
Roughly speaking -- though philosophy has shown there are many subtle niceties to the subject -- a proper epistemology should endorse a kind of 'conservatism of belief', which can be pugently expressed via the mechanic's cliché 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. My current belief that the universe is quite ancient serves me well. It fits in with many other of my beliefs. It does not lead me astray and is amazingly well able to integrate with new evidence that I pick up every day talking with others (say about what happened yesterday), reading the newspaper or browsing the web science pages. This belief has passed all the epistemic tests it needs to count as knowledge2 (though it may begin to fail these tests at any time). One might complain that just fitting in with a general system of belief and evidence cannot be enough for knowledge. Quite so. What is needed in addition is simply the truth of the belief. But, since the world is in fact very old, I do know that fact.
We are in exactly the same sort of epistemic position with regard to the question of real or even just nomologically possible zombies. I don't believe there are any. Nobody can give me, nor is there any, evidence that it is zombies that surround me rather than fully conscious human beings. So my belief is well supported, stable and unassailable. I am under no epistemic pressure to change or even examine this belief and can remain secure in my knowledge that there are no philosophical zombies and that in fact the laws of nature which link brain states to states of consciousness rule out zombies as nomologically impossible.
But this knowledge does not show that philosophical zombies are logically impossible. It is much harder to show any such a thing. Nonetheless, some philosophers contend that philosophical zombies are logically impossible, and this paper will focus on one argument recently advanced by Robert Kirk (1999). It is claimed that there simply are none of the possible worlds invoked in the zombie definition. No being physically identical to me, in the appropriate sense, could lack consciousness3. This is a strong claim. It is far stronger, for example, than the claim that zombies are nomologically impossible, for this only asserts that in any possible world that shares all its 'natural laws' with our world any physical duplicate of me will be as conscious as I am. The claim that zombies are nomologically impossible is also distinct from the claim that they are physically impossible. Distinguishing nomological and physical possibility assumes that the realm of natural law might (logically might) outrun that of mere physical law. Notice that if in fact all natural laws are physical laws or logically supervene upon physical laws then there are no worlds that agree on our physical laws but differ in some natural law. Then, since there are evidently laws which link physical states and states of consciousness, the logical possibility and the nomological possibility of zombies would come to the same thing, for then any world that differed in its natural laws from our world would also differ in some physical law. But, as we shall see, there is very little reason to collapse this distinction4.
On the other hand, if the laws which link physical with non-physical properties are 'natural' without being, or logically supervening upon, physical laws then zombies could arise by breaking these natural laws without breaking the physical laws. If mental properties are non-physical, then it seems quite reasonable to claim that laws linking the mental and physical are themselves not physical laws (in just the way it would be reasonable to deny that laws of economics are physical laws). The issue would then come down to whether or not such natural, but non-physical laws, logically supervene upon the physical laws. But, obviously, simply to assume that all natural laws logically supervene upon physical laws would beg the question against the logical possibility of philosophical zombies. Or, in other words, it would suffice to show that zombies are logically impossible to show that all natural laws logically supervene upon the actual physical laws5. But that looks to be extremely hard to show. If any kind of 'non-physical world' is logically possible and if it is logically possible for such a realm to enjoy its own set of natural laws then the supervenience claim would obviously be in jeopardy. I have no idea how one could even begin to argue that such lawful but non-physical realms are logically impossible, and am equally at a loss see how the laws of such realms, if their possibility is granted, would have to be logically supervenient upon the laws of our physical realm. For one thing, since such realms would agree on all their physical laws (trivially) the supervenience claim entails that they would have to agree on all their laws -- so at most one such realm would be possible. There would still be many different possible non-physical worlds since they could presumably differ in their 'initial conditions'. But they would have to share their laws. One might claim that such realms could differ in their 'substance' while agreeing in their 'laws' but I really have no idea what such a claim really means. Nor do I see how 'mixed realms' that contained both physical and non-physical components would, of logical necessity, have any and all of the laws which govern the non-physical side of things depend upon the physical laws. So this seems to be a very ambitious and hence not a very promising way to attack the idea of philosophical zombies.
And, contrary to the opinions, or at least the hopes of many, the idea of zombies is important. For to claim that zombies are logically possible is to deny a very common form of physicalism. I want to emphasize this point: it is the mere logical possibility of zombies that refutes physicalism. If, say, my philosophical zombie is logically possible then there is a possible being which shares all my physical properties but does not share all my mental properties. Thus mental properties are non-physical properties and the physicalist assertion that everything is ultimately physical is false. An ontologically liberal functionalist cannot escape either, since the idea of a 'functional zombie' is a simple extension of the idea of a 'physical zombie'. In fact, if, as seems reasonable, we assume that functional properties logically supervene upon physical properties, then the possibility of a philosophical zombie refutes functionalist physicalism no less than it refutes 'bare physicalism' (see Chalmers 1996, especially chs. 3 and 4).
This is a real problem. I've sometimes heard it said that the idea of zombies -- like that of certain other bizarre, purely philosophical thought experiments -- is so weird that we just don't know what to say about them, or that we just have no way to assess their logical possibility. And therefore (therefore?) we needn't spend any time worrying about them. Not good. This is tantamount to saying that we don't know what to say about the truth of physicalism and have no way to assess its truth or falsehood. Good friends of physicalism ought not to take this line. They know perfectly well what to say about zombies: such monstrosities are not logically possible. The question is whether there is any way to convince someone who is neutral about physicalism of this without begging the question.
I've also heard it said that physicalism is not meant to be such a 'strongly metaphysical' claim that it would have such exotic implications about the nethermost regions of logical space; rather, physicalism is supposed to be a kind of quasi-scientific, empirical claim that the creatures of this world, and in particular human beings, are purely physical creatures. And, just as physics doesn't care that it is (or might be, so to speak) logically possible for quarks to have radically different properties in some merely logically possible worlds, philosophers shouldn't care about hypothetical possibilities of Cartesian minds, or whatever other wild psychical or ectoplasmic metaphysics one might dream up. This sort of reply misses the point, and the strength of the zombie challenge.
Consider that the mere denial of physicalism does not entail that zombies are possible. The former is entailed by the existence of Cartesian possible worlds -- worlds in which there are non-physical entities and properties: mental substances possessing mental properties as postulated by Descartes. But there could be Cartesian worlds even if philosophical zombies are logically impossible6. So it is not at all the case that the zombie hypothesis is just a fancy way of dressing up anti-physicalism.
At the same time, I would think that philosophers are right to be wary of asserting that physicalism is logically necessary: that there are absolutely no possible worlds that contain non-physical entities and/or non-physical properties. The metaphysical visions of Leibniz or Spinoza, for example, do not appear to be flat out impossible.
Such modesty does not weaken the zombie argument, in fact it is irrelevant to it. For the possibility of zombies just shows that consciousness is not itself a physical property, nor even a property which logically supervenes upon such.
Of course, we don't have a very clear idea of exactly what makes a property a physical versus a non-physical property. But we can use the rationale of the zombie argument itself to help us get clearer about such properties. Here is a first pass at a sufficient condition for being what I will call a radically non-physical property:
(R) if some thing, x, has a property, P, which is such that it is logically possible for something physically indistinguishable from x to lack that property then P is a radically non-physical property7.
My philosophical zombie, if it is logically possible, will reveal that there are mental properties of consciousness which are radically non-physical properties by this criterion. And that seems intuitively correct. However, some properties which intuitively present no difficulties for a physicalist outlook are hereby declared radically non-physical. Any relational property will come out as non-physical by this criterion. For example, a Canadian one dollar coin has a possible physical duplicate which is not money at all. However, it is easy to extend our criterion of non-physicality to cover relational properties thus:
(R*) if some thing, x, has a property, P, which is such that there is a possible world which is physically identical to the actual world but in which x's physical duplicate lacks P, then P is a radically non-physical property.
Note that the specification of the possible world that tests for non-physicality might have to include the total history of the world. If the actual world was in fact created five minutes ago then it may be that there is no real money in it (only lots of perfect counterfeits), if one defines money in terms of being printed by a legitimately authorized mint (as opposed to miraculously appearing out of nowhere with the rest of the world and being treated as money by the similarly newly created denizens of that world). Thus test worlds may have to be totally physically identical to the actual world. This identity might even have to extend through 'future history' as well. For example, it is conceivable that the property of inertia is a relational (and physical of course) property depending upon the total distribution of matter throughout all of space and time. So if -- as seems unlikely to me -- properties of consciousness are in fact relational properties then it will be the logical possibility of whole 'zombie worlds' that will reveal that such properties are radically non-physical.8
We might now define a rather weak form of physicalism simply as:
(P) There are no radically non-physical properties.
Now it is clear that the mere logical possibility of zombies is enough to refute physicalism insofar as it reveals the radically non-physical nature of at least some mental properties and insofar as any reasonable version of physicalism (such as (P) for example) rejects the existence of such radically non-physical properties.
Showing that philosophical zombies are logically impossible would thus make the world safer for physicalism. But on the other hand, a proof of the impossibility of zombies which rested upon a premise asserting or implying the truth of physicalism would be worthless. That would just beg the question.
Robert Kirk has recently (1999) presented an argument attempting to demonstrate that philosophical zombies are logically impossible. I think the argument does not succeed, but its failure is instructive, although in the end not surprising. Kirk proceeds by reductio, assuming that a zombie is possible and from that deriving a contradiction. His method involves supposing that a zombie suddenly acquires qualia. To prevent misunderstandings based on this notoriously troublesome term, let me reassure the reader that no pernicious assumptions about the nature of qualia are at play here: the term 'qualia', both in Kirk's paper and throughout this paper, just stands for the properties of subjects that make them, in the constitutive rather than causal sense, qualitatively conscious. Qualia are simply the properties we have and zombies lack just in virtue of our being conscious. The acquisition of qualia seems quite straightforwardly to transform the zombie from a non-conscious to a conscious being, and in fact into a being just like us. Kirk's argument then proceeds:
4. But my zombie twin is by definition unaffected by anything non-physical.
5. So he is unaffected by acquiring non-physical qualia.
6. In order to become conscious as a result of his acquisition of non-physical qualia he would have to be in some way affected by them
7. Since he is not so affected, he, at any rate, does not become conscious. (1999, p. 6).
Of course, in this part of the argument premise 5 is highly problematic, if not incoherent. It is true that the zombie is not physically affected by his sudden acquisition of qualitative mental states, but it does not follow from this that he is unaffected tout court. To suppose that all affection is physical affection is just to assert physicalism9. That is, to a first approximation we can define 'being affected (by x)' as the acquiring or the losing of a property (because of x). The zombie, by hypothesis, gains qualia, that is, certain properties of qualitative consciousness. Thus he is affected. But, also by the hypothesis of Kirk's reductio, these properties are radically non-physical. So to deny the non-physical affection of the zombie is to deny that there are any such properties to gain, i.e. to assert a physicalism at least as strong as (P). We already know that if physicalism is true there can be no zombies so we have here no argument against the existence of zombies independent of the assertion that physicalism is true. No friend of zombies will deny that physicalism implies that zombies are impossible, but equally no friend of zombies will be impressed by an argument from physicalism to the impossibility of zombies.
But Kirk is not offering such a simple-minded and hopeless argument against zombies however. Points 4 through 7 are just the warmup. He wishes to deduce from the fact that the zombie will not be physically affected by the acquisition of qualia the conclusion that the zombie will not notice or think about his transformation or the qualia that produce that transformation. From this he attempts to deduce further that if zombies are possible then we too, being in effect zombies with qualia, as in the thought experiment, cannot notice or think about our qualia, or even tell the difference between different qualitative experiences.
Let us first consider the claim that the zombie cannot notice the qualia that it acquires. Here the assumption, dormant until now, that the physical laws governing the zombie (or the zombie world) are the same as the actual physical laws, comes into play. It has to be further assumed that these laws guarantee the causal closure of the physical world. As noted above, this is the assumption that every physical event is determined entirely by physical conditions and events to the extent that it is determined at all. We don't know for a fact that the causal closure of the actual physical world is true, but very fundamental conservation laws in physics seem to suggest that it must be if our physics is at all on the right track10. I'm happy to grant physical causal closure for the sake of the argument. Given this assumption, it indeed must be the case that the acquisition of non-physical qualia cannot have any indirect or downstream physical effect on our zombie any more than it can have an immediate physical effect.
Kirk's argument then proceeds as follows:
8. Telling the difference between the subjective character of two perceptual experiences requires detecting them; and that requires ... being sensitive to or affected by them.
9. Since zombies are by definition unaffected by anything non-physical, my supposed zombie companion cannot tell the difference between non-physical qualia ...
11. Since the friends of zombies maintain that I am nothing but a compound consisting of a 'zombie companion' and non-physical qualia ... their position entails that nothing can detect differences between non-physical qualia, hence nothing can tell the difference between the subjective character of smelling tea, and that of smelling coffee.
12. But many of us can tell the difference between the smell of tea and the smell of coffee.
13. Therefore we are not compounds of the sort the friends of zombies maintain we are, and zombies in their sense are not genuinely [logically] possible. (p. 9)
This argument compresses several intermediate inferences. First there is the claim that if zombies are logically possible then we (ordinary conscious human beings) are compounds of a purely physical zombie plus non-physical qualia. Although rather a perverse way to put the point it must be correct. I say 'perverse' since on the assumption of the possibility of zombies the only possible difference between us and them is the non-physical qualia that we possess and so of course we must be 'physical zombies' plus qualia. Or, to put it more sensibly, if we think of ourselves minus qualia we end up with zombies and if zombies are logically possible then it is coherent to think in this way.
Now, I (and Kirk) take it that being able to tell the difference between, for example, the taste of tea and that of coffee involves more than mere behavioral discriminative abilities, for the zombies possess these but are nonetheless said to be unable to 'tell the difference' between the taste of tea and coffee. What they lack, then, is no physically manifestable ability but rather the kind of knowledge of what tea, or coffee, taste like which conscious experience affords (readers will recognise that we are very close to Jackson's famous Mary argument here, see Jackson 19??). Normally, we think that it is this knowledge that grounds the ability to discriminate the taste of tea from coffee but that is true, at best, only in normal cases of human perception. We could, in principle, devise a machine that could chemically discriminate coffee from tea with as much accuracy, and similar categorizing dispositions, as human beings, but we don't think that such machines thereby necessarily possess any qualitative consciousness of tastes. Non-conscious discriminators are certainly possible (in fact there seems to be a great many of them, from thermostats to sunflowers). Zombies are an extreme case of non-conscious discriminators, which possess exactly the same discriminatory powers that we do, but without the consciousness that normally attends such powers.
Thus, of course, to all appearances, zombies are able to tell the difference between the taste of tea and coffee. My zombie, for example, will utter sounds which can be interpreted as English statements about how different the taste of tea is from that of coffee, and in what ways these tastes differ. Do these utterances have 'real meaning'? I don't think the answer to this question is at all obvious, but let us suppose that zombies can speak real English (or a homonymous and synonymous variant of English) so that when they claim, for example, that they are conscious they are making a genuine claim, a claim which is, unfortunately for them, simply false.
If they can make such claims, then presumably zombies can have real beliefs. Again, it is not really obvious to me that this is the correct interpretation of zombie behavior and neural activity11. But let's suppose that this is OK, so that zombies do have genuine beliefs about various things; most significantly they have beliefs about qualitative states of consciousness. One might wonder, I suppose, how zombies could acquire concepts of states of qualitative consciousness in the complete absence of consciousness, even if it is granted that they can possess concepts in general. But blind people can have concepts of visual consciousness despite lacking it, so it is difficult to claim there is a difficulty of principle here. Many of the zombies' beliefs about qualia are true beliefs, such as the belief that the smell of roses is a pleasant smell, or the belief that there is a certain thrilling feeling that attends riding a roller-coaster. But all their substantive beliefs about their own conscious experiences are uniformly false (althought they have, as do we, various logically trivial beliefs 'about' self-referred experiences which are true by default, such as the belief that right now I am either having the experience of tasting cinammon or I am not). Of course, zombie beliefs are one and all non-conscious beliefs, whereas many of our beliefs are conscious. But there doesn't seem to be anything incoherent in the idea of non-conscious belief.12
These zombies will even have, or appear to have, ostensive beliefs of the form: so strawberries taste like that (just after 'tasting' their first strawberry). The ostensive act here will fail simply because of a lack of a referent for the demonstrative. However, there is nothing particularly mysterious in themselves about such beliefs, if they are beliefs, nor anything about them which especially concerns the zombie problem. We have all at one time or another had this sort of false belief, or 'cognitive failure'. It is of course very weird that zombies are so systematically mistaken even about such intimate judgements about their own (putative) experience. But no one claims that zombies aren't weird; lots of logically possible things are weird (like flying pigs, the worlds of Harry Potter or Frodo Baggins, etc.). The question is whether zombies are as weird as square circles.
Notice that if it was logically impossible for something to have beliefs about things that could not physically affect it, then zombies could have no beliefs about these presumed non-physical properties of qualitative consciousness. Then it might seem there would be a quick route towards the conclusion that zombies are logically impossible. The argument would go like this. Zombies could not have any beliefs about qualia, either before or after their transformation from qualia-less to qualia-enjoying creatures. But then they could not tell the difference between distinct qualia just because 'telling the difference' involves, at least, having some beliefs about qualia. But we are, or are equivalent to, zombies that have acquired qualia. So therefore we can't tell the difference between distinct qualia. But since we can, we get a reductio of the claim that zombies are logically possible.
This is not a very convincing argument however, because it rests on the extremely dubious premise that it is impossible to have beliefs about what cannot physically affect one. Beliefs about mathematical objects or abstract entities in general present obvious difficulties here, as do beliefs about possible physical things that we cannot be in physical contact with (e.g. events outside our 'light cones'). In general, the difficulty with this line of argument is to present a case for this restriction on belief, and concept, formation which is independent of the assumption of physicalism, an assumption which would in this context once again beg the question. In any event, I don't want to explore this avenue further here, since it plays no part in Kirk's argument.
Having granted that zombies can have genuine beliefs, let us see how the rest of Kirk's argument fares. I think it rests on a basic mistake in epistemology. It is a mistake to think that there has to be any physical change in a believer to transform beliefs into knowledge. I think that however knowledge is to analysed, it will be possible for all the conditions of the analysis to be met save for that demanding the truth of what is believed. This is obviously true for common theories of knowledge. On justified true belief accounts, it is easy to imagine situations where the only thing preventing a belief from attaining the status of knowledge is the fact that the belief is false. There are lots of justified false beliefs which, if they had been true, would have amounted to knowledge. Suppose you tell me you were in Simcoe Hall yesterday afternoon. You are generally trustworthy and I understand your utterance, and thus form the belief that you were in Simcoe Hall yesterday. Because of a slip of the tongue however, you mispoke yourself; you were actually in Simcoe Hall the day before yesterday. So obviously I don't know that you were in Simcoe Hall yesterday, but I would have known if you had been (everything else in the siutation being kept the same). A similar point clearly holds for reliability theories of knowledge and, I would venture to assert, any other reasonable account.
I think zombies are in an epistemic situation akin to my example, though one as all encompassing and strange as befits their peculiar nature. They have every reason, so to speak, to believe that they have qualia (always recalling that we have granted that they can have and, in virtue of their understanding of English and physical indistinguishability from normal human beings, do have beliefs about qualia). They are, to use another model, epistemically virtuous, at least they are as virtuous as we are, and if we can manage to have knowledge about qualia then so could they -- if they only had any qualia to have knowledge about.
So what happens when, as Kirk imagines, a zombie suddenly acquires consciousness? First, the zombie is affected, but non-physically, just by gaining certain properties that it lacked before. Of course, nothing physical changes, by hypothesis. And yet the zombie's false beliefs about its own mental states suddenly become true, and they become knowledge too. Friends of zombies will say that the zombie now knows what things taste like in virtue of actually having the conscious experiences which carry this information, whereas the earlier, non-conscious beliefs about tastes, referred to nothing, hence were false, hence could not constitute knowledge about how things taste. Zombies are, so to speak, very close to being able to tell the difference between tea and coffee, lacking only one, alas essential, component; they are like the man who says 'I'd be rich if I only had money'.
Consider this from the side of the zombie. Suppose a zombie is asked to think about or 'internally compare' the tastes of coffee and tea. The zombie thinks for a while, and carefully sips some tea and coffee, then soliloquizes about this 'difference' for awhile, doubtless saying many things that are true of the tastes of tea and coffee. But the zombie's remarks are grounded in utterly false beliefs simply because the requisite experiences are just missing. Of course, this kind of zombie would never seriously entertain the idea that it is a totally non-conscious being. It's epistemic situation is the same as mine and if I have no good reason to wonder whether I am a zombie then neither does it. But that doesn't eliminate the possibility that it is a zombie, any more than the fact that I have no good reason to believe that I am a brain in a vat shows that it is logically impossible that I am a brain in a vat.
One might wonder whether a zombie could know it was a zombie. I don't see anything absolutely preventing a zombie coming to believe correctly that it was a zombie, but I doubt that would be knowledge, since it would be an irrational belief13. What evidence could there be in favour of the zombie hypothesis? Since the zombie hypothesis requires the idea that the zombie inhabits a very peculiar sort of possible world, I don't think there could be a route towards a rational belief that it was a zombie. What could ever lead it to rationally conclude that it was in such a bizarre, merely logically possible, world?
But doesn't this whole analysis imply that it is logically possible that I am a zombie, right now, even as I, apparently, consciously think about my own consciousness? Not at all -- at most it shows that from your epistemic point of view it is logically possible that I am a zombie (and if zombies are logically possible at all this is hardly surprising -- the problem of other minds is a skeptical problem which is not incoherent). For I have conscious beliefs about my experience, and they are what form the basis of my knowledge that I am conscious. If you are wondering whether you are a zombie, I ask you just to consider whether you are conscious. You have conscious experiences; you are conscious that you are not a zombie, and that entails that you are indeed not a zombie. A conscious belief that one is conscious is self-validating; it cannot be a false belief14.
It is instructive here to compare my knowledge that I am not a zombie with my knowledge that the world is ancient, and was not created five minutes ago in the exact state it actually was in five minutes ago. Although I do know that the world is very old, it is logically possible, and perhaps more, that I am wrong. The fact that knowledge that P logically implies that P is true does not threaten the claim that what is known might be false. It is an analytic fact about knowledge that:
NEC(Kp ==> p),
but of course it does not follow that
Kp ==> NEC(p).
My epistemic situation with regard to the age of the world is in fact somewhat more perilous than this suggests. The fact that I consciously believe that the world is ancient -- which I do of course -- is logically independent of the age of the world, that is
POSS(CBEL(Ancient) & ~Ancient ).
Contrast this with the status of my knowledge that I am not a zombie. There, I am on much firmer ground, for my conscious belief that I am not a zombie logically implies that I am not a zombie, that is,
NEC(CBEL(~zombie) ==> ~zombie).
It is logically impossible that I, in my current state of consciousness, am really only a zombie. Of course, if zombies are logically possible then there is a possible being who is physically just like me but who is a philosophical zombie. But that being can't be me, simply because I consciously believe that I am not a zombie while my zombie duplicate does not. It's also true that, so far as I can tell 'from the inside' it is logically possible that I might become a zombie in the next instant (I might lose consciousness for all sorts of reasons). But if this did happen I would then lack the states of consciousness which currently ground my knowledge that I am not a zombie; right now, I have such states, I am aware of them, and they logically preclude my being a zombie (a power which the consciousness of my belief that the world is ancient utterly lacks about its object).
So if I'm not a zombie, I know I'm not a zombie. And, of course, the converse holds as well, so: I'm not a zombie iff I know I'm not a zombie. The zombie has no such beliefs, even though it unconsciously -- or, better, non-consciously -- believes that it is conscious. Too bad for it, all such beliefs are false.
Kirk's argument against the logical possibility of zombies does not succeed. I think I've given a logically consistent tale of how zombies could transform into conscious beings such that this transformation would give them knowledge of the difference between the experiential qualities enjoyed in consciousness. This does not show that zombies are logically possible, but it does support that contention, for the burden of proof must always lie on those seeking to deny that a proposition is logically possible, since the claim of mere logical possibility is inherently a very weak claim. Physicalists should remember that their doctrine entails that zombies are logically impossible, which may give them some comfort. On the other hand, any argument based upon this entailment advanced in support of physicalism would be viciously circular. Thus, any argument against the logical possibility of zombies which aims to bolster physicalism has to be independent of the claim of physicalism. I think it will be hard to come up with any such argument; and I don't think that Kirk has done so.
Finally, let us consider the worry of epiphenomenalism, which may seem pressing at this point. That is, it may seem that if zombies are logically possible then qualia have got to be epiphenomenal, since a philosophical zombie can be transformed into one of us without any change in the physical world. Now, it may be that a philosophical zombie which is miraculously endowed with consciousness, as in Kirk's thought experiment, will have only an epiphenomenal consciousness. It's important to see that this does not entail that our consciousness is epiphenomenal. First, let's get clear about the kind of epiphenomenalism that is at issue here. I will call it 'physical epiphenomenalism', meaning that consciousness has no physical effects. Perhaps in theat distant world in which some erstwhile zombie suddenly acquires consciousness, these mental properties obey their own intra-mental causal laws, and have their own causes and effects within the mental domain, But it seems that, on the assumption of physical closure, nothing physical can change because of the introduction of consciousness and thus the new mental properties cannot have any physical effects and thus they count as 'physically epiphenomenal'.
The thought experiment of the zombie who acquires qualia thus perhaps shows that epiphenomenalism is itself logically possible (as I am inclined to suspect it is in any case). But it does not follow that our consciousness, in this world, is physically epiphenomenal. This can be demonstrated very simply: overdetermination is not logically impossible. Given Kirk's implicit assumption of the causal closure of the physical world, there is a purely physical sufficient cause of every physical event. Given that the logical possibility of zombies shows that the properties of consciousness are radically non-physical, the efficacy of these properties cannot ride directly on the efficacy of physical properties (as they do in, for example, identity theories). It does not follow that qualia are epiphenomenal since they may be overdetermining causes of physical effects. The laws of nature in the actual world include laws linking physical states to states of consciousness and, it may be, laws linking states of consciousness to certain physical states. In the logically possible world where the zombies live, these laws are broken (by hypothesis), but the physical laws are left unchanged. It may be that the result is that any qualia introduced into that world become physically epiphenomenal. But our world is not like that, or at least not necessarily like that. The mere possibility of overdetermination shows that the possibility of zombies does not entail epiphenomenalism. The fact that qualia are epiphenomenal in the zombie world does not imply that they are epiphenomenal everywhere. Fundamentally, this is because causation is not a matter of logical necessity. The fact that it is logically possible that a massive object released near the Earth will not fall does not show that gravity lacks causal efficacy.
So the logical possibility of zombies does not imply epiphenomenalism. Would the logical possibility of epiphenomenalism imply the logical possibility of zombies? Not directly. It is not clear how to argue that the existence of a possible world in which qualia are physically epiphenomenal entails that there is a zombie world, a world where qualia are lacking altogether despite that world's total physical similarity to the actual world. But perhaps the possibility of epiphenomenalism strengthens the case for zombies insofar as it easier to suppose that inefficacious properties can be eliminated from a world, thus transforming an epiphenomenalistic world into a zombie world.
However, the logical possibility of epiphenomenalism does share something important with the logical possibility of zombies. They both refute physicalism. This follows from the assumption that physical properties, in a world that shares our physical laws, are efficacious (because efficacy is guaranteed by the laws, so that if we have the same laws we'll have the same cause-effect relations). If there is such a world where qualia are inefficacious, then evidently qualia cannot be physical properties. And, on the twin assumptions that functional properties supervene upon the physical and that functional properties are efficacious, the possibility of epiphenomenalism also shows that qualia cannot be functional properties.
Some possibilities that are mere logical possibilities would thus have some very significant consequences for physicalism. Physicalists ought to be worried about them, and seek some arguments independent of their physicalism to show that these are only apparent logical possibilities. I have argued that Kirk's efforts do not succeed, but perhaps there are other ways to show that zombies are no more possible than square circles, or colourless green ideas.
William Seager
University of Toronto at Scarborough
1The physical realm is causally closed just in case every physical event is determined to occur and have the properties it has only by other physical events (to the extent that it is determined to occur at all). Thus if the physical realm is causally closed then two worlds that are indistinguishable physically up to, or perhaps simply at, some point in time will evolve in physically indistinguishable ways thereafter, modulo any possible indeterminacy inherent in physical law. Indeterminacy would be accommodated by looking at the class of possible futures licensed by indeterministic physical law: two worlds identical up to, or perhaps simply at, time t will share exactly the same class of possible futures or, in other words, the same futures will be ruled out as inaccessible from these worlds as they are at time t.
2Many of these tests are quite independent of me. For example, if my reasons for believing in an ancient world have, unknown to me, been undermined then perhaps my belief will not count as knowledge (the Gettier examples are simple cases of undermined evidence, although very much more subtle cases are possible). Here we see some of the subtlties that abound in epistemology. Of course, my belief that there is no undermining evidence unknown to me bearing upon the age of the world is also on a pretty sound epistemological footing. Sound enough, in fact, to underwrite my knowledge claims about the lack of such evidence, and hence the age of the world.
3The caveat is needed since physicalists disagree about whether or not physical history and physical environment must also be duplicated to avoid zombiehood. Fred Dretske's theory of consciousness, for example, actually predicts zombies which are locally physically identical to normal human beings, but must differ in their history of physical interaction with the world (see Dretske 1995). See below for why the caveat makes very little difference to the zombie argument against physicalism.
4So far as this argument goes there could still be creatures very much like us who lacked consciousness in a world that was perhaps only subtly different from the actual world. If this is a genuine logical possibility then it too is a problem for physicalism, but not one to be discussed here (see Kim ?? on global supervenience).
5I am assuming that a world in which certain 'laws' held but were violated by miracles is a world with different laws from those of the actual world. Or, to put it another way, I'm assuming that the actual world is subject to a kind of 'metalaw': there are no miracles.
6Descartes himself would have denied the possibility of philosophical zombies, because a being physically identical to one with a mind would not be able to behave in all ways like the being with the mind (for example, the putative zombie would not be able to speak sensibly in general, do mathematics, etc.). According to Descartes, matter-in-motion just does not have the intrinsic resources to organize fully or creatively intelligent behaviour. However, even on a Cartesian account, there could be 'temporary' zombies. This is evident because animals are zombies according to Descartes even though they engage in very complex behaviour susceptible to mentalistic explanation. According to Descartes, humans, too, seldom use their minds to guide their behaviour; most of the time the body is left to its own devices. Kirk makes what is a perhaps common error about Cartesianism where he says that on the Cartesian doctrine, 'an exact physical replica of myself [who lacked its Cartesian mind] would not behave like me; it would collapse like a disconnected marionette' (1999, p. 2). On the contrary, such a being would be something akin to an ape, able to get on quite well, but incapable of scaling the heights of distinctively human intelligent behaviour. Thus there could be fairly long stretches of behaviour during which the merely physical, and utterly non-conscious, replica would be behaviourally indistinguishable from the original.
7Note the extreme case of things that are totally non-physical, i.e. which have no physical properties. Any two such things are physically identical and thus any property which the one can have and which the other can lack will count as a radically non-physical property. This is as it should be. Logically trivial properties, such as either possessing an essential non-physical component or not, which everything must have, do not count as radically non-physical. That will not cause any troubling consequences in what follows. Nor does it seem exactly wrong to classify them as such, since every physical object will also have such properties (trivially).
8Note that by the phrase 'zombie world' I am not implying that this is a world devoid of consciousness, only that we may require physical identity of a whole world to generate even a single genuine philosophical zombie.
9Perhaps Kirk intends to define zombies so that they cannot be affected in any way whatsoever by non-physical properties. If so, zombies cannot acquire qualia and Kirk's argument becomes incoherent (a point made by Michael Neumann in personal correspondence).
10Very complex issues lurk here. The status of energy conservation in general relativity, for example, is very vexed and rather unclear. We also know that quantum mechanics permits 'temporary' violation of energy conservation via the time-energy uncertainty principle. Could the mind exploit such indeterminacy? Orthodoxy would doubt it.
11It seems defensible to claim instead that zombies are completely mindless; that in the absence of consciousness there are no mental states at all (this seems to be Searle's (19??) position based on the claim that mental states are those states that have the potential to become conscious to their subject). However, even taking such a strong line would still leave us with the zombies' mentalistically interpretable behaviour (both outer and inner, neurological). Thus we could define states of F-belief ('F' for faux), F-desire, etc. which zombies possess and which are, from the outside, so to speak, semantically evaluable and explanatory of behaviour. Whether we pretend that the 'F-' is there or not seems to make little difference in the end, at least in the matter of unconscious mental states.
12Zombies can also have higher order beliefs about their own mental states (or F-mental states). Thus if zombies are logically possible then higher order thought (HOT) theories of consciousness (see Rosenthal 1986) are refuted. So, for that matter, are the first order representational (FOR) theories that make consciousness a matter of the impact, or potential impact, of possibly non-conscious mental states on the belief-desire system (see Dretske 1995 or Tye 1995). Zombie representational states have such impacts without generating consciousness. Or, to put it another way, if HOT or FOR theories are true it is logically necessary that they be true. If there is a logically possible world which refutes a HOT theory it will be a world with zombies (or, somewhat more cautiously, a world with 'partial' zombies -- creatures with the requisite HOTs to make state X conscious while X remains non-conscious).
13I do not believe there is any psychiatric or neurological syndrome in which patients claim to be philosophical zombies. In Cotard's delusion, people claim to be dead, but they are only claiming to be 'Hollywood zombies'. They have not and do not think they have lost consciousness, as is evident in their claims that they can smell their own flesh rotting or feel worms crawling over them.
14Thus I am, in a way, disagreeing with another of Kirk's premises, namely that 'qualia cannot detect qualia' (1999, p. 8). Kirk's reason for accepting this premise is that it is trivially true because qualia are 'properties, not acts, much less acts of comparing or distinguishing' (1999, p. 8). While that is true, there might be other ways, as suggested in my text, that having qualia validates, or transforms into knowledge, certain beliefs about qualia. Kirk perhaps also neglects the fact that there is conscious thinking as well as conscious experiencing. |
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Jo is my neighbour, I moved in two years ago, she is forty with two daughters, Tori who is twenty and Zoe who is sixteen; all three are very good looking. Fortunately for me Jo’s husband walked out six months ago.
Late one afternoon Jo called me to help her move some heavy furniture in her bedroom. After lugging wardrobes around the room she asked me if I wanted a drink. Sat in the lounge she offered me a beer and sat next to me on the couch.
“Thanks Rich you really are such a help, I couldn’t have done that on my own”.
After a few minutes she kicked her shoes off and curled her legs under her, I couldn’t help noticing her pretty little toes; her legs were quite nice too. She then nudged me with her elbow and said.
“Still it’s not the way I wanted to get you in my room though”.
I looked at her quizzically and smiled, noticing not for the first time her nice tits.
“Yeah I’ve wanted you in there fucking me for a few months now”!
Then she leant over and kissed me passionately. As I pulled her close and kissed back she ran her hand over my hardening cock.
“Wow that feels nice and big, come on Rich fuck me and make me cum like a slut”!
She stood in front of me and pulled her shirt and trousers off, followed by her g-string; her tits were nice and big, with large nipples, my eyes went down to her pussy which was trimmed nicely; she ran her hands down over her tummy and began to rub her clit. She lay back on the couch and lifting and spreading her legs began to frig herself softly as she moaned.
“C’mon rich fuck me and make me cum; I haven’t had a cock in me in months”.
My shorts hit the floor as I moved forward and began to suck and caress her tits. As she moaned I moved down and began to lap at her sweet cunt. Her juices were flowing now. My cock was like an iron bar as I slipped it into her pussy watching her eyes widen.
“Oh fuck yeah, that's it fuck me, I need a good hard fucking”!
I began to pump into her faster and faster as her tits wobbled on her chest.
“C’mon Jo cum for me, and I’ll fuck you again”.
“Oh fuck yes I'm cumming oh fuck yes”!
Jo sat up and pulled my cock to her lips slowly she swallowed it down into her mouth. At this point she went wild and began to bob her head up and down gagging on my cock; so much saliva was running onto her chin and dripping onto her tits.
“Oh shit baby I'm gonna cum in your mouth”!
After I filled her mouth with my seed she laid back and smiling she wiped her lips with her fingers and sucked them clean.
Cupping my cock she smiled as she said. “Mmmm so nice and tasty, but you gotta leave the girls will be home soon; but come round and fuck me soon and you can fuck my other hole as well”!
Smiling I pulled my shorts on. “Jo come round to my house soon and I will fuck you all afternoon hunny, I'm gonna fuck you till you scream, you're gonna love my cock in your tight ass”.
I left after kissing her once more and strolled home, neither of us had noticed Tori had been spying on us through a crack in the door.
Three days later in the evening there was a knock on my back door. Tori walked in as I was sat at the kitchen table reading the paper as the kettle was boiling. She was dressed in a pair of tight shorts a tight crop top and bare foot; her toe nails were painted a sexy bright pink.
“Hi Rich how’s things”? She said as she sat down. Smiling she came right to the point.
“I watched you fuck my mom, it was fucking horny especially when you came in her mouth”.
I smiled at her as she continued.
“I told Zoe as well”.
“So what did she say”?
“Well she said. Good for mom. She asked me to tell her everything as she undressed. She got so hot and horny she lay on her bed and frigged herself right in front of me”.
“Wow what did you do”?
“I got naked with her licked her pussy till she came in my mouth, then I made her lick my cunt and ass and came in her mouth”.
This came as a shock to me thinking of these young sisters pleasuring each other thinking of me fucking their mom.
“We chatted after and we both want to fuck you Rich, Zo?ot really horny when I told her you were going to fuck mom in the ass”!
She smiled widely as she ran her foot up my leg. “I think Zo?ants to try a cock inn her ass, but she is a virgin still and I don't think she could take it, she can barely take a big dildo in her cunt. So Rich did you fuck my mommy in the ass”?
I smiled at her and nodded my head. “Yes I fucked her upstairs in my bed. I filled her ass with my cock this afternoon”.
She grinned back as her foot rubbed along my thigh. “So was it good, did she like it, and was her ass nice and tight”?
I reached down and started to rub her sexy little toes. “Yes it was good, and she screamed the house down as I filled her ass with cum, she dipped her fingers in and licked my cum off them”.
Smiling as she rubbed her foot over my cock. “Mmmm that feels nice and big, do you want to push that into my tight young cunt, do you want to fuck me and make me cum screaming”?
I stood up and walked behind she leant her head back and smiled as I ran my hands over her young tits, they were firmer than her moms, oh god they felt good in my hands. I pulled her top up and began to caress her nipples as they got hard. Her legs dropped open and she began to rub her pussy through her shorts. She began to moan softly and whispered.
“C’mon Rich fuck me, take me to your bed and fuck me make me cum like you did my mommy”!
I pulled her up and kissed her as I led her up the stairs and into my room. Laying her on the bed I pulled her shorts off revealing her young shaven pussy, her lips were glistening with her sex juices her hands came down and began to stoke herself as I stripped off my clothes revealing my nice hard cock to her. She smiled as her eyes widened.
“Oh wow that is fucking big, do you think it will fit in my young cunt, oh fuck Rich let me suck it; I wanted to taste your cock in my mouth. Please let me suck your cock and cum in my mouth”!
I pulled her up and began to rub my cock along her lips as her tongue flicked out over my helmet I grabbed two bunches of her hair and slowly began to push my cock into her sweet young mouth thinking to myself how I was fucking her mouth just hours after I had sodomised her mom. I watched her gagging on my cock saliva running down her chin onto her tits. As she rubbed it in I began to cum, filling her mouth with my seed.
“Oh fuck baby swallow it all down, oh you dirty bitch take it and swallow it”.
She grinned at me as she licked her lips. “Mmmm tastes so good, c'mon fuck me now fuck my young cunt, it needs your big cock, c'mon fuck me hard, fuck me and make me cum”!
As she was saying this she brought both of her feet up to my cock and began to rub it softly with her sexy little toes. I grabbed her legs and pulled them wide open looking at her all the time.
“Baby I'm gonna fuck you nice and hard but first I want to lick that cute little pussy”. Lowering my head I began to lick along her slit with my tongue as I slipped a finger inside her, she began to moan as I moved my tongue to her clit which was standing proud.
“Oh fuck that's so good lick my cunt make me cum, oh fuck yes make me cum”!
Pulling up I watched her fingers flashing over her clit, I edged forward and slowly pushed my cock just inside her cunt. I looked down at her angelic face and with one hard thrust sank my cock deep into her hot wet slippy cunt.
“Oh fuck yeeeeeeeeeeessssss that's fucking good, oh fuck yes, yes, yes. Now fuck me as hard as you can make me cum”!
I began to pump in and out of her pussy feeling her muscles gripping onto my shaft as I pulled out, she was getting so wet her juices were leaking onto my balls. After a few minutes I rolled her onto her hands and knees and began to do her doggy style, managing to go deeper into her as she pushed back onto my cock. Her moans were getting louder now.
“Oh fuck yes, yes, yes, yes, fuck me, fuck me, oh god make me cum”!
I gripped her hips and buried myself deep inside her as she went into a prolonged orgasm.
“Oh fuck, yesssssssssssssssss oh fuck yesssssssssssss”!
I felt her cum all over my cock, her cunt going into spasms of pleasure. At this point I began to run a finger around her asshole, but she reached back and moved my hand away, looking over her shoulder she whispered.
“Just fuck my pussy, mommy might love it there and Zo?ight want it there but I don't, ok”!
I just winked at her and rolled her onto her back and began to tease her pussy with my fingers as she again began to rub her pretty little toes over my raging hard on.
“Tori do you want me to fuck you again”? She smiled sweetly and nodding her head said.
“Oh my god yes fuck my tight cunt, make me cum like a fucking bitch”!
“Well you have to do something for me then”.
“What? Not my ass though, anything else just not my ass”!
I passed her the phone and told her.
“Phone Zo?ell her what we are doing and see if she wants to come and play”!
She smiled sweetly and made the call as I sank deep into her pussy again, I began to suck on her toes as she began talking to her sixteen year old sister.
“Hey Zo?guess where I am and guess what I'm doing. No not that, I'm in Rich’s bed and he's fucking me nice......... oh fuck yes deeper..... Nice and hard on his bed. Yes it’s fucking great, oh fuck oh, oh, oh, yes......... Oh and guess what he fucked mommy’s ass right on this bed a few hours ago. Ummmm yes I did tell him, no don't be embarrassed I think he wants to fuck your ass for you, no I wouldn’t.... oh yes, yes, yes make me cum.... no not in my ass. I wouldn’t let him, ok. Rich she wants to speak to you”.
I took the phone off of her and pulled her up and pushed my cock to her mouth. As s he began to blow me Zo?egan to speak.
“Hello, are you really doing it to my sister”?
“Oh yes she fucking loves it, she is sucking my cock hard right now, where are you Zo?You're on the back of the bus. Are you alone? Good what I want you to do is play with your pussy then when you get home come right in and show me your wet pussy”.
“Ok Rich I'm touching myself through my pants, oh my pussy is so wet, are you gonna fuck me, oh god yes please fuck me hard I’ll do anything for you, I want you to take my cherry”.
“So you little slut you're a virgin”?
“Yes I've never had anything bigger than a finger and a small dildo in my cunt”. She began to whisper huskily. “Please fuck me and take my cherry, and then fuck my bum like you did to mommy, I think it looks good, it felt good when I fingered my ass last night”!
My heart began to race as this sixteen year old began to talk dirty to me, I couldn’t wait to get my cock in her virgin holes”.
“Get here quick and I will fuck you till you scream”!
I pulled out of her sister’s mouth and turned her over again then began to fuck her pussy nice and slow as I massaged her ass cheeks. Five or ten minutes later I heard footsteps running up the stairs. The door burst open and in walked Zo?ressed in her school clothing. Dark pants a white blouse and a dark blazer. Dropping the blazer on the floor she smiled at us and said.
“Wow its fucking true then. Wow Tori you look like you're enjoying that her trousers were off in seconds leaving her in her bra and a very small g-string. She leant over and watched my cock going into her sister’s cunt, I felt her hand reach down and cup my balls. Looking up she smiled and said.
“Let me taste her juices on your cock Rich”!
I took a handful of her hair and guided my cock into her mouth, she struggled a bit at first but began to get used to it quite quickly, and then she began to suck my cock, with pure abandon.
“Oh fuck” she said as she took it out and guided it back into her sister. “That tastes so good”.
Moving to Tori's head she kissed her softly then pulling her g-string off she spread her legs in front of her and whispered.
“Tori suck my cunt make me nice and wet, c'mon sis, make me cum like you always do”!
Tori's head went down as she began to lap at her baby sisters pussy, it might be wrong watching this incestuous act but fuck me my cock got harder watching Tori pleasure her little sister. I couldn’t hold back and again filled her up with my seed making her cum again and moan loudly into Zo? young pussy.
I pulled out and offered my cock to Zo?o lick clean once she had done this she smiled and quickly rolled Tori onto her back and then lowered herself onto her face.
“Oh yes Tori lick my clit, I'm gonna eat all that lovely seed out of your pussy”. She smiled at me and began to lap at her sister’s pussy greedily sucking the juices out of her.
I sat back and watched them doing things to each other that sisters shouldn’t do, but fuck me it was so fucking hot my cock was getting harder by the second.
Tori looked at my now hard cock and smiling as she fingered her sister said. “Zo? think he's ready to fuck you now”.
Zo?lanced over and with a grin a mile wide and her face covered in a mixture of pussy juice and sperm said.
“Oh god yes please fuck me take my cherry make me a real women”!
I moved behind this young girl looking at her slim hips and firm little titties, her pussy like her sisters was shaven bald. It looked so small and tight like a fresh rose just beginning to open up. I rubbed my cock across Tori's lips making her open up.
“Get me nice and slick for your little sister Tori”.
Her mouth opened and engulfed my cock she began to gag and spit onto it when it was nice and slick she pulled herself up and rolled Zo?nto her back. She began to kiss her face lingering to give Zo? sexy French kiss, her hands began to move down her young sisters body caressing her firm little tits; as her lips moved slowly down her chest and began to suck her nipples Zo? legs dropped open revealing her sweet little pussy, it was shaven bald and opening up like a flower, her lips were glistening with her pussy juices. I knelt between her legs and began to slowly rub her clit making her moan softly; I slipped a finger into her tight little pussy as Tori's mouth reached her pussy. It was so fucking horny watching these two sisters incestuous behaviour. I pulled Zo? feet up and began to suck on her sweet sexy toes, eliciting another moan from her. Tori by now was sucking and fingering her sister making her pussy really slick.
“Please fuck me make me a woman, c'mon fuck me and please fuck me hard”! As she moaned I moved up and began to rub my cock along her slit, I slowly pushed into her going in about an inch.
This made her moan even louder. “Yes, oh yes, more give me more, c'mon please fuck me”.
I looked at her pretty little face and gripping her thighs pushed deep into her in one long thrust. This had a massive effect on her. Her mouth went wide and the breath left her body in one long whoosh.
“Ooooommf, Oh fuck yes, yes, yeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssss”!
I held still deep inside her for a second as Tori leant back and began to frig herself, I then began to fuck Zo?ice and slowly. I pulled out and pushed right back into her watching her face as a look of pure ecstasy passed over it.
“Oh Jesus that's so good, c'mon fuck me make me cum”.
I began going a little faster as Zo?ulled her legs up and rested them ankles on my shoulders allowing me do fuck her a little deeper.
“Yes, yes, yes, yes, oh fucking god yes, that's so good, oh fuck yeeeeeeeeeeessssss”!
Zo? pussy was leaking like a broken faucet, dripping her juices onto my balls; her sweet pussy was so tight it felt like I was being held in warm velvet vice.
“Oh fuck yes Zo?ou're so fucking tight, do you like my big cock in your tight young cunt”?
She smiled up and nodded as she continued to moan loudly. “Oh fuck yes, fuck this young slut, fuck me hard and fast”.
I began to pump into her harder and faster as she thrust up to meet me. Her pussy suddenly clamped down on my cock as she arched her back and shouted loudly.
“Oh fuck yes, yeeeeeeeesssss, I'm cumming, oh fuck I'm cuuuuummmmmmmmmmmming”!
I held still deep in her young pussy as she convulsed in orgasmic pleasure on the bed. She opened her eyes and smiled at me.
“Mmmmmm that was so fucking good, oh god I feel so good”. She reached over and pulled her sister to her and kissed her sexily the whispered.
“Rich hasn’t cum yet, let’s suck is cock till he cums on our faces”. I leant back as they crawled over and began to caress my genitals. As Zo?rabbed my cock and moved it to her elder sisters mouth and rubbing it along her lips, smearing her lipstick she grabbed Tori's hair and said.
“Lick my pussy juice off, c'mon slut lick it off”. Tori opened her mouth and slowly licked along my shaft as Zo?orced her face onto my cock, though she was four years younger she seemed to be the dominant sibling, Tori began to smile as she bobbed her head up and down my shaft.
“Mmmmmm Zo?our juices taste so nice on his cock”.
As these two girls began to work my cock I could feel the seed rise.
“Oh fuck girls I'm gonna cum, oh shit I'm cumming”.
Tori gripped my shaft and began to rub me off. “Open up Zo? want him to cum in your mouth, you little slut”.
Grinning Zo?pened wide and pushed her tongue out just as I began to cum, the first shot hit her on the nose and eyes, then she moved her mouth closer and I filled her mouth up with another three shots. She leant back and opened her mouth to show her sister. Zo?ushed Tori onto her back and grinning she grabbed her tit and squeezed it till her mouth opened up; slowly she dribbled all my juices into her sister’s mouth with a final kiss she smiled.
“Tastes’ nice doesn’t it now swallow it all down Tori”.
As I sat there she continued to kiss her then got Tori to lick her face clean.
As they were dressing both girls kissed me then Tori said. “We have to do this again”.
Zo?rinned and said. “Oh yeah, and maybe we can get mommy to join in”.
My cock twitched as Tori grinned widely as she contemplated this.
Grabbing her school bag Zo?issed me and thanked me then they both ran off home.
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2009-07-07 18:48:12
Please proofread your texts prior to submitting next time. I wanted to like the story, but it became difficult to read through.
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2009-07-07 10:11:33
i nutted im jst horny for incest anyway except doin it to my own family idk crazy shit.
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2009-07-07 09:49:13
I'm all for dirty talk, but you're making it a bit unrealistic.
2009-07-07 09:15:08
Quite a reasonable effort for your first story.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64297 | Riding With Mom
"I know, Mom. I will."
"Sure thing, Dad," I replied, quickly slipping by in the doorway facing away from him to hide the boner that had exploded in my pants so suddenly at the sight of my Mom. My face was red. This had never happened before. Why would I get a hard on seeing my Mom in her nightdress, something I'd seen probably hundreds of times before? It was ridiculous!
"It’s gorgeous, isn't it?"
"There's a real beauty, here, isn't there?"
"Ok, Dad. We'll tag along."
"No, give me a push. Come on, don't be shy, and give my butt a boost." She stepped into the stirrup and started to lift herself up. I swung my open hand down and pressed it against the bottom of her ass as she started to rise, pushing up until she could swing her leg over the saddle.
Mom sat there for several moments. Then, she stretched her arms behind her, bracing her hands against the bed and arching her back, like she'd done on the horse’s rump that afternoon. "I feel so alive out here," she whispered.
I nodded, too numb to speak.
But she acted as if nothing was out of order. "Hey, sleepyhead, it’s about time. Dad's been up for hours. He couldn't wait so I told him to go on ahead. Get up and eat while I saddle the horses."
I didn't respond. My breathing was dragged into the hollow of her neck.
I nodded into her.
"Oh, you bad boy. That's soooo naughty."
"Come on, sit up, it’s ready now. Come on, get up."
"Aren't you eating?" I asked.
"I ate with Dad, sleepyhead," she answered. "Eat up while it’s hot."
"Do you find me attractive?"
"Do you like looking at me?"
"Yes," quietly again.
"Yes, Mom."
"Yes, Mom, I understand."
"Sore? No. Look harder."
I reached out to touch her but she stood up quickly and backed away. "No. You finish eating and then come help me with the dishes."
I brought my dishes to the sink when I finished. Reaching around her, I dumped them in the sink. Picking up a towel, I reached for a cup to dry.
"No. Just leave them. Stand behind me and watch out the window for your Dad."
I did as she asked. She swirled the water around but she was really wasn't washing. She'd done only one cup and a plate the whole time she'd been standing there. Clearly, doing dishes wasn't on her mind.
I threw the towel onto the counter beside the dish rack. She turned her head slightly to look at it, then back to the sink. I did nothing. Her hands stopped swirling. She just stood there. I reached forward to grasp the sides of the undershirt and slid it up over her hips, baring her ass and leaving the shirt bunched at her waist. I waited again, just taking in her gorgeous butt.
Finally, I said, "Do you like it when I look at you?"
"Lean forward a little." She did, stretching her hands to the far side of the sink, still in the water.
"Open your legs. Just a little." She shuffled her bare feet a little to the side.
"Why did you do that at the table? Did you want me to look at it?"
"Look at what?"
"My pussy."
"No," I said, grasping her hair and gently tugging her head back. "When you open your legs like that, it's not a pussy anymore, is it?"
"What is it?"
"A cunt."
"That's right. You wanted to show it to me, didn't you? You wanted to show it to your son, didn't you?"
"Yes. I wanted to show it to you, to show my cunt to my son. I can't help it."
"You're a very naughty woman, Mom. You let me fuck you yesterday. You waved your ass in front of me. You knew what you were doing. And you let me fuck you. Didn't you?"
"Yes," she hissed.
"You're going to do more naughty things with me, aren't you?"
I hadn't touched her but her breathing had become rapid and deep while we talked. So had mine. I placed the back of my hand on the counter beside her, cupping my palm upwards.
"Squirt some of that into my hand," I said in a firm, commanding voice, nodding my head toward the plastic squeeze bottle of Mazola oil she'd used in the frying pan. She didn't question me. She lifted her right hand and squeezed some into my palm.
"More," I said.
She squeezed more. I pulled my hand back, careful not to spill it, and turned it over onto the top of her right cheek, spreading it down over her butt, cupping the bottom and squeezing it, pushing the Mazola into the flesh as I pressed it back up. I returned my hand to the counter. Still holding the bottle, she filled my hand again without waiting for me to tell her. I brought it back and covered her left cheek with the slippery oil. After spreading it around, I moved to her other cheek and fondled it for a minute before returning for another handful. I let this drip slowly into the crack at the top of her ass, then, using the edge of my hand on the thumb side, I pressed between her cheeks, sliding it up and down, making sure the knuckle of my thumb grazed and even dug into her anus.
"Give me a big handful, then push back and open your legs more." Again, she did as she was told.
I shoved the whole handful into the crack of her ass then quickly shoved my hand between her cheeks, pressing the slippery goo against her rosebud, and then moved my hand under her ass, cupping it and catching the extra fluid. I pushed it back up against her ass and rubbed forward along the bottom of her pussy. Oil was dripping down the inside of her thighs. I started massaging her pussy, back and forth, rubbing not quickly, but firmly sliding through her slick crevice. I started pushing my fingers farther in, and when my hand was fully forward, I stretched my thumb up to her little rear whole and pressed it in. I did this again and again.
I still held her hair in my left hand, keeping her head back, her face looking up at the ceiling. She was breathing very hard. She looked so awesome! I was now getting three fingers into her and pushing my thumb up to the knuckle on every pass. She was incredibly slippery. She grunted a little each time my thumb pushed into her little hole.
"That's right, Mom. Grunt. I like the sound of that." I pushed forward again but this time I didn't stop my thumb at the first knuckle, I slid it in all the way, and held it there. She rewarded me with a longer grunt. Keeping my thumb completely in her, I started moving it around in a small circle. I pushed all four of my fingers into her, and started pushing into her, pulling back but never out because her ass followed my hand as had it withdrawn. She really wanted it, at least her body did.
I pulled her upright, sliding my left hand around to the front of her throat. I rasped into her ear, "If Dad wasn't here, I fuck this right now," wiggling my thumb in her ass to emphasize my meaning.
"He's gone," she gasped, "He went to get help because your horse was lame this morning, too."
"What? He's not here?" I almost shouted. So that's why I was treated to the undershirt display. Well, I guess things were going a little beyond what Mom had expected. I turned her and steered her over to the bunk, Dad's bunk. I saw that he'd actually rolled the mattress and placed it neatly in the middle of the bunk.
Standing before the bunk, mother in front of me, I told her, "Grab the rails."
She leaned forward to bend over for me.
"No, on the top bunk."
She stood back up and did as I said. I pushed her legs wider apart, kneeled down slightly and brought my cock up into her pussy from behind. I stood, shoving her up with me. Grasping her hips, I pulled her a step away from the bunk, and started fucking her in slow, hard thrusts. Within a minute the thrusts turned into lunges, and a minute later I was jack hammering into her. Then I stopped, ordering her to hang on to the bunk, I pulled her back farther until her feet left the floor. Holding her thighs, I held her splayed out and started lunging into her again. I didn't speed up but I really slammed into her. On each plunge I stood up on my toes, tensing the muscles in my legs as I bulged my cock in her cunt. We were both grunting like animals. I didn't stop until her muscles spasmed on my cock and I felt her drench my balls with her juice.
I walked her forward, set her feet on the ground, and then pushed her onto the bunk and over the rolled up mattress. I grasped her ankles and spread her legs widely apart, then pushed her cheeks apart with the thumbs of both hands. I pressed the head of my cock against her little hole, which was still open the size of a quarter from the action of my thumb, and twisted her head to its side.
"What's my name, Mom?"
"That's right, Roger," I said as I pressed harder, slipping my cock into her hole. I kept up a steady, gentle pressure until my cock slid all the way in and my pelvis was pressing firmly against her butt. She let out a long grunt all the way in. I stayed pressed into her, glorying in the moment. Then I started to move back and forth, just a little, slowly. Every few times, I suddenly thrust hard into her, and then rolled around in a circle while fully plugged into her. I kept repeating this. As her grunting became louder, I reached down and grabbed her hair in both hands, pulling her head back. I really started grinding my cock in her ass. This was absolutely incredible. Mom may not have known it, but I had never fucked anyone in the ass before. I loved it. It was such a power trip, to hear her grunting and moaning, right out of control.
I suddenly stopped moving, staying still. I pulled out of her very slowly, then pushed back in, then out, completely. Her ass was pulsing, opening and closing, her thighs quivering.
"Please, don't stop. Please."
I pushed my cock into her, slowly until her cheeks were once again against my pelvis. I held her tight against me and started to shove back and forth in a big circle, then pushed her down onto the rolled up mattress and really started pounding on her. Every time I pounded down on her she released a loud, long grunt. Our fuck became frenzied. Finally, she let out a loud wail just as I gushed into, not spurting, but almost like a steady hose of cum.
I fell forward onto her back, gasping for breath. "Oh, god, oh god, oh god."
I don't know if I fell asleep or if I passed out. But I was aware of opening my eyes and realizing I was still on top of my Mom. I got up, stripped off my boxers and put a kettle of water on. Mom appeared to be sleeping, still splayed lewdly over the mattress. When the water boiled I brought a cloth and some soap over and started to clean her. She opened her eyes and smiled at me.
"So, I'm guessing that was a real Rogering. You seem to really like doing that."
"It was fantastic, Mom. I'm sorry if I got carried away. I didn't mean to hurt you."
"You didn't hurt me. But it isn't the gentlest thing for a woman."
"I'm sorry, Mom."
"It's alright. I might let you do it again, if you're a good boy."
"If I'm good?"
"That's right." She stood up, pulled the undershirt over her arms and threw it to the floor, then walked over to the table and sat down in the same chair where she'd shown me her pussy that morning. "Come here," she said.
I went and stood before her. She opened her legs wide again. "See."
I knelt down in front of her. She reached out and cupped my head in her hands, her fingers playing with my hair. She tilted my head forward forcing my eyes to look directly at her pussy.
"Kiss it," she commanded.
I leaned forward, bracing myself with both hands on the floor between her legs, and covered her pussy with my mouth. I started licking her, pushing my tongue in and dragging it up and down in her slit. After a few minutes, she pulled my head in hard, and started to fuck my face. She became very agitated, pushing forward more and more, thrusting harder on my mouth glued to her pussy, fucking my tongue held stiff in her quim. Suddenly, she rocked forward too far pushing me over onto my back, my shoulders rolling against the hard floor. Her legs clenched my head tightly in a vice-like grip, her pussy never breaking contact. My head on the floor, she continued pounding on my face, her clit rubbing against my nose as she hunched again and again against my lips. Finally, she held still, her thighs shuddering on my face, and then she relaxed. A moment later, she stood, walked over to the counter and picked up a dish towel. Calmly walking by me on the return, she casually threw the towel down on my face, "Clean yourself up," she said. She stooped to pick up her tennis shoes and walked out the door, stark naked, turning left from the trail up the mountain.
Scrambling to get my running shoes on, I grabbed my shorts from the floor and ran out the door. I could see Mom, beautifully naked, striding up the grassy meadow a hundred yards away. I ran up the hill after her, naked myself.
Cresting the hill I looked frantically about for her. I couldn't see her, even though the meadow flattened out for quite a ways. She couldn't have moved fast enough to get out of my sight.
"Lose something?"
She was lying in the grass, off to my far left, braced up by an elbow, wearing only a cocky smile. I went over and laid down beside her on the grass, on my back. I didn't say anything and for the longest time, neither did she. Finally, she said, "Well, we've certainly fucked each other. What's next?"
"I don't know, Mom, I don't know," I replied, thinking about all the complications we now faced in our lives.
"Well, I do," she said, quietly.
When she didn't expand, I asked, "What?"
She rose up on her elbow and looked down at me. "Now you can make love to me," and then she laid back.
I got up on my elbow and looked down at her. Her eyes were closed, a slight smile on her face. I leaned down and brushed my lips against hers. I kissed her. Then again, and again, until she parted her lips and started to kiss me back. She put her arm around me and we started really kissing. When I pulled up, she said, "That's more like it," and pulled me back down. We kissed for several more minutes before she pushed my head away. "You know, son, you haven't sucked my breasts for 20 years."
She arched her back, thrusting her tits up. Her nipples, I could now see, were standing up hard. I leaned down and took one in my mouth, sucking it up and then pushing my closed lips down around it, then swirling it around in my mouth before dragging my teeth gently back along it.
"Ohhh, that's nice. That's it. Suck them. Yeah. Slowly. Yeah, like that. Do it that for a long time."
I did as she asked. I sucked and pulled on her hard nipples until I thought they'd come off. She didn't seem to tire of it. She continually moaned, murmured, and arched her back, lifting off the ground to push her tit into my mouth as I tugged on her nipple. Eventually, I parted her legs and shoved my cock into her again. We had a long, slow fuck in the meadow on the side of that mountain, blissfully unaware of anything else in the entire world, mother and son. I came close to coming many times. Her pussy was magic. It massaged, pinched, squeezed, milked, twisted and scraped me. Just when I was about to burst in her, she'd do something to stop me, squeezing my balls really hard, biting my ear, and so on. Then her pussy would start working on me again. When we finally finished, I lay on her, my cock still in her, kissing her, squeezing her nipples. We didn't talk, we just enjoyed being close.
At last, I rolled off and sat up. Mom sat up beside me and I put my arm around her. Something made us turn and look behind us at the same time. There, about a hundred feet away, looking down at us, was a bear with two cubs playing about her. As we watched, frozen into inaction, she turned and ambled away, her frolicking entourage tagging along behind.
It was late afternoon when we headed back to the cabin.
"I guess help with arrive tomorrow afternoon," Mom conjectured. "I'm starving."
I smiled as I followed Mom down the hill, staring at her pear-shaped cheeks, my cock already hardening. "Me too," I replied. "Let's drink the rest of the wine and really have a little party."
Mom put on a flannel nightie (she'd been expecting the nights to be cold on the trail) and started rustling up some grub as soon as we reached the cabin. I put on my boxers, fetched some wood and started a fire. Then I scrounged all the extra pillows, blankets and a comforter and spread them in front of the fire. That done, I went to see if I could give Mom a hand.
"No," she said, laughing, "I don't think I can use the kind of help you have to offer." She took a big sip, finishing her first glass of wine.
"Hey, no fair. You've got a head start," I complained.
"And I'm going to keep it too. I'm going to get a good sleep tonight, so don't get any ideas. So fill up my glass before you get yours, young man," and she held her glass out to me.
"Yes, ma'am," I saluted, and poured two large glasses of wine. Standing behind her, I held her glass ahead of her. When she reached for it, I leaned forward, pulling it away.
"Oh, you tease," she grumbled, not yet realizing that my crotch had pressed against her ass, nestling my cock lightly in the valley between her cheeks. She made a grab for the wine and I spilled a little but was compensated by her action which also parted her cheeks, allowing my now stiffening member to lodge securely, still pointing down but pressing up with vigorous anticipation.
"OHHH, YOU! You bad boy," she berated me, trying to push me off, but finding that this simply worsened her situation (or improved it, depending on your point of view). She stopped, submitting to my pressure forcing her against the counter, but said, "No way, Roger. I have to eat, and I don't think I'm up to any more tonight. Maybe in the morning, ok, hon.?"
Not to be deterred, I responded, keeping it lighthearted, "Ok, dear lady, but I demand a kiss in reparation." I set her wine down and pulled her face back and to the right so I could kiss her from behind. I put all my effort into the longest, sexiest kiss I could muster, all the while swaying my hard cock gently from side to side in her cheeks.
When the kiss ended Mom whispered, "That's very nice but I just don't have your youthful stamina."
I kissed her mouth quickly several times, slipping my tongue just a little inside. "You might find that you do if you just let something get started," I whispered back. I plunged my tongue down into her mouth before she could answer. After a minute, I slid my hands slowly up her sides, cupping her breasts and squeezing them a little, then bringing my fingers up to squeeze, roll and tug her nipples. Ending the kiss prematurely, I said, "But let's eat first anyway." And turned away. "I'll get extra wood for the fire."
We ate our meal and drank our wine in front of the fire, talking about many things. Mom and Dad's life before I came, me when I was little, and various worldly issues that revolved around relationships between people, nothing about politics or the war or sports. I offered to get another bottle of wine, our third, while taking the plates to the sink. When I returned, Mom was stretched out on her tummy, holding her empty wine glass in front of her. She looked gorgeous with the firelight playing over the backs of her legs, her hair lying back over her shoulders. Kneeling down to fill her glass, I casually pulled her nightie up over her ass, and stroked her cheeks.
"Hey, buster."
"You have to pay to get your fill, lady," I laughed back at her. When her glass was full, I said, "Oh, I forgot my glass," and returned to the counter. While I was there, I asked her if she'd like me to put some skin lotion on her, to which she replied, "Yes, but you better be good." I assured her I would and came back carrying her lotion and something else I'd picked up from the counter.
I started applying the lotion on her feet, working my way up her calves and then her thighs. I took my time. By the time I was ready to do her back, she had emptied her glass again. I hadn't remembered to fill mine.
"You'll have to take your nightie off, Mom, for me to do your back."
"Just push it up, honey."
"Nope, if you want the backrub and wine special, you have to follow instructions. Come on, up you go." I helped mom get up to her knees, leaning back into me as I pulled her flannel nightie over her head. She was a little dozy from the wine and the heat of the fire. I ran my hands over her tits, pressing them and tugging on her nipples.
"I'm just helping your circulation before you lay down again," and gently pushed her forward, naked, onto the comforter. I filled her glass again, squirted a generous portion of lotion between her shoulder blades, and started rubbing it into her back, working in large circles, pushing down more firmly whenever I was directly behind where her nipples would be pressing into the floor below. I kept applying more lotion, squirting it on in little puddles. Every once in a while, Mom would raise her head and take a sip of wine, then flop back down, more heavily each time. I never touched her ass.
"That's lovely," she slurred, when she took her last gulp.
That's when I pulled my hands back to the small of her back and started scratching the little dimples she had just above the rise to her cheeks.
"I have to do your bottom now, Mom. It's the only part left. It has to be done," I whispered gently but firmly, trying not to intrude on the crackling of the dying fire. I squirted some fluid on her left cheek and then some on her right, I started slowly massaging her prominent, pear-like globes, gently squeezing them as I pushed them around, and pulled them apart to apply a spreading pressure. I squirted more on and slowly worked that around as well. Then, I squirted some directly into her ass crack, let it soak in, then squirted in more. "Oops," I cried as I pressed my fingers in a cupping motion between her cheeks at the bottom of her buttocks, catching the extra fluid and pushing it back up against her little hole. Holding my fingers there, I squirted more fluid in, letting it pool over her rosebud and soak in.
"Roger," she burst out, hoarsely, her voice betraying a hidden excitement.
"Just relax, Mom. I'm almost finished. Just rest now." I pressed my middle finger in, laying it along her rosebud, and slid it gently back and forth, then pulling it up and swirling its tip around her little hole. She hadn't yet realized that I'd been soaking her butt and her little hole in the mazola oil I'd grabbed from the counter. It wasn't the best thing to use, but it was all I had. As I pushed my finger tip into her, she protested again. "It's just part of the massage, Mom, just let me finish."
When I slid my finger all the way in and started slowly working it in and out of her ass, part of the massage routine lost its value. "No, Roger, don't, don't."
"Mom, remember what I said about giving things a chance? Just give it a minute."
I squeezed even more Mazola around her hole and pushed two fingers in. She dug her pelvis into the floor, away from my merciless intruders, grunting. I kept pushing in, loving the sound of her grunts, "I can't," she cried, "I can't!"
"You can," I whispered back harshly, "and you will!"
"No, no, don't, Roger, don't."
I pulled my fingers back, and then shoved them in again, pressing deeply into her cheeks. "Yes’s," I hissed. Suddenly, I pulled my fingers out of her, paused, then slid them down along her peritoneum and wiggled them into her cunt.
"Oh, my God, oh my god," she panted. I twisted my fingers around, loosening her up for a minute, and then started jamming them back and forth into her, increasing the tempo, pushing in harder, faster. Her panting became ragged. I stopped, twisting around again, and then started jamming in more slowly but more firmly. She started grunting again, moving her pussy back against my hand. I was very excited and breathing quite raggedly.
Pushing my hand in, I held it there while I twisted my body with my feet to the left, outside her widespread legs. I leaned my torso down, pressing her back flush to the floor as I aimed my cock and nudged it up against her little hole.
"No, Roger, don't. Wait, wait until tomorrow."
"I can't," I rasped back, and pushed the head in.
"OHHHHH, OHHHHH, UNNNGGHHHH," she wailed as I slid in. She was tight, but slippery, being very well oiled. I pushed all the way in, and fell to my chest lying across her. I stayed still, feeling her tight pucker gripping me, convulsing around the root of my cock. Slowly, I started moving. Out a little, and back. Again. Out and back, again and again. I started pressing in, grinding a little, just a little. Soon, I could hear little grunts with each grind into her cheeks. I started working my fingers in her pussy again, in time with my fucking of her ass. I pulled my fingers out and slid my long finger up to her clitoris and pressed it in there, swirling it about in tiny little circles. She began moving her ass back onto my cock, groaning, moaning and grunting all at once.
I pulled my hand quickly out from between her legs, around her hips and back onto her clit. Lifting myself, I straightened out behind her, between her legs. I moved my cock back between her cheeks, pressing it into to her opened hole. I let it hover there.
"Push your ass back on my cock, Mother."
"Come on. Push back. Fuck me with your ass."
I could feel the muscles in her thighs before she moved. And then I felt the exquisite feel of her round, puckered hole pushing back and enveloping the head of my cock. Suddenly, she shoved quickly upward, exhaling a loud grunt, "UNNNGGGHHH!" followed by many quick shoves in succession. She was going wild! I felt my hand on her clit brushed roughly aside as she replaced it with her own. I reached around and grabbed both her tits, squeezing them hard and pinching the nipples tightly as well. Each time she buried her ass around my cock, I tensed my thigh muscles as hard as I could, bulging my cock into her. We were in a frenzy. This was not tender lovemaking like we'd had that afternoon on the mountain. We were each stealing something from the other. Abruptly, I released my goo in her with explosive force. She began violently twisting her ass around on my cock, frigging herself frantically until I could feel her legs clenching and shuddering uncontrollably. We collapsed on the floor, panting raggedly.
After a long while, Mom blurted out, "You little bastard. What you make me do. You little bastard."
"Be honest, Mom," I countered. "You've had boring fucking all your life. I'm your son, and I know you. I know what you need, and I know what you really want."
A long pause followed.
"You're still a little bastard."
"I know. I'll leave you alone tonight, but I'm having you in the morning. Understand?"
No answer.
"Do you understand?" I repeated.
Quietly, "Yes, I understand."
"All morning," I insisted, "they can't get here until the afternoon."
"All morning," she acknowledged.
The next morning, both Mom and I learned how she could get her mouth down over my whole cock, using copious amounts of saliva generated while I held her head firmly down on me. I found that I could even continue fucking into her as I held her head tight, for a few thrusts, more and more each time. Eventually, I exploded in her face. I hadn't meant too but at the last minute, I couldn't help it, having never done it before. I immediately felt ashamed of myself but she didn't mind. She laughed at the huge amount of come dripping all over her, like it was a ridiculous joke that anything could be left after last night. I laughed too and then pushed the head of my cock back into her mouth. She slowly, sucked and licked it, milking the tip while looking into my eyes until I was soft. Unbelievable!
We cleaned up and had breakfast. Just as I was wondering if I had anything at all left and how I was ever going to live up to my manly demands of the previous evening, we saw riders coming around the bend in the trail, Dad at the lead. My ride with Mom was over.
As we rode back on fresh horses, I wondered about how things would go once we got back home. I no longer wanted to go away. Ever. I wanted to stay and have Mom again and again in all the ways I was starting to imagine.
And then the image of her rocking my head back into the floor popped into my mind, and the way she'd strode back across the room tossing the dish towel down into my face as she walked nonchalantly by, "Clean yourself up," she'd barked.
Maybe, this wasn't going to be so one-sided, I thought, just as Mom twisted around in her saddle to look back at me, the two of us again bringing up the rear. Keeping her eye on me, she smiled and leaned forward to grasp the horse's mane. She was still looking back, smiling, as she lifted her ass up to the edge of the saddle….
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2015-05-06 18:00:28 hot now
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2015-04-11 19:40:03
I have just spent the whole weekend fucking my mother and my young sister.I was fucking my sister on her bed have just taken her twelve year old maiden head and was about to dump all my spunk in her sweet little cunt when my mum walked in on us. she said are you both enjoying your selves. my sister Oh yes mummy his cock is all the way up me and i love it . mum then said well when he is finished with you he can also fuck me as well. i looked up and said your on mum i just about to cum in her then i'm all yours i have always want a double ender.
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2015-03-31 21:51:11
@Anon 2015 02 23 04:51:04
Ever thought maybe they were the same person? Just suggestion.
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2015-03-30 20:26:42
My pussy is still throbbing
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2015-03-13 04:51:04
Nice story. It's from Alwayswantedto who posted it on Literotica dot com. He's recently retired and deleted all his stories there. So guess it's a good thing to have some of his work still around. Just give the author credit!
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64298 | There’s nothing sweeter than that sensation sin has to offer. The feel of an adrenaline rush in knowing I might get caught is to me by far the most thrilling of all. It began as a young girl when my dad talked me into taking my clothes off as we drove down old country roads. Sitting in that seat next to him naked feeling the cool summer breeze whip through my hair and on my naked body left me crazed. And to know I was trusted with a secret was even more intoxicating to me. It was during one of these drives also that I came to enjoy what my dad called …‘a daddy’s rinse’. Because of my young age he never penetrated me, but he would let me slide on his rock-hard dick. I remember feeling my little ass split, as I’d slide excitedly back and forth over him and, to feel it pulsate under me as my pussy ripped over it was unimaginable even to me then. I’d brace myself against his chest, as we lie deep in a grassy field, far away from the dirt road. I had told him I had to pee but he insisted I pee on his dick. I hovered, hesitantly at first, over him wondering if I should but then let a stream of hot pee pour out of my little pussy. His eyes were overjoyed as warm pee dripped over his hips as I belted him with a continuous stream. I was hooked on it. Pleased by the expression on his face, especially when he placed his lumbering dick, after having ejaculated by fucking me through clenched thighs, up to my pussy and pissed. As his hot urine burned a welcoming scream of delight on my pussy and dripped down my legs, it touched me forever. I stood holding my pussy open, as he pissed, and kept my eyes on his promising never to mention it to anyone. As the years slipped by, I became very attached to my dad.
There’s a name for the bug that now bites at me …nymphomania. I swear, if I could butter-up a fireplug with my hair conditioner, believe me, I’d fuck it! At thirteen I was already looking in the frig for wieners or carrots anything to soothe that burning itch in my pussy. I remember the night I crawled on my tummy, like a starved little bitch, down the hall and into the kitchen as my parents slept. I had seen a cucumber earlier that I’d fallen in love with and had meant to put it to good use. It must’ve been a good 7 glorious inches in length and a whopping 2 inches thick. All I could think of was comparing it to my dad’s big dick. I braved the frostiness of my token lover as its chill sent shivers up my back. I had slipped it down my panties and then made my way swiftly back to my room. I hadn’t even reached my bedroom and my pussy was already weeping for it. I guess she sensed what I couldn’t. I shut the door as quietly as possible trying not to let the lock snap into place, but in my eagerness it bolted loudly as it fell into place. I yanked my joy-toy quickly out of my panties and thoughtlessly tossed it into my closet and leapt into bed. It hit with a hardy thump against the wall. I lie still with my eyes shut as I heard the door to my parent’s bedroom open. I knew it had to be my father because my mother had begun to go to bed with her escort, prince Valium.
Then as my door creaked open, I froze and lie very still. I was going out of my fuckin’ little mind. I was breathless. Breathing harder than I had during any of my adventures with him in days gone by or with any of my vegetables, and he knew it! I could hear him being very excitedly in his fear as his hands slid slowly up my thighs. It didn’t bother me that he was my dad. All I wanted was that he goes through with it this time and fucked me! So, when he tapped his fingers along my inner thighs, I split open like a butterfly for him and waited for rewards. His hot breath beat down on my hairs as he took whiffs off my moist pussy.
When his tongue kissed my hairy lips I inadvertently let out a soft, but audible gasp. I could’ve cared less if he my mom heard me or if she was awake. At last, I was going to enjoy my first real fuck!
“Did you find what you wanted?” he asked in a low husky whisper. I ignored him, feigning sleep, but then naively nodded that I hadn’t.
“Oh,” he cries, “…poor baby has an itchy pussy and no one wants to help her.” I breathed lightly. I felt his hands slowly lifting my nightshirt. I swallowed but kept still. As the shirt swept over my hips he struggled as he tugged trying to get it past the weight of my ass. I lifted my hips, slightly, and let him have access to me. His slipped under my panties’ waistband and began to pull them off of me. As they rode down my hips I could feel my body tense to the excitement and to the soft blows of the cool night air on my naked body. I could hear dogs barking out in the distance as my cotton panties slid easily down my thighs. I opened my eyes to see as he pulled them off from one leg and then slid them back up the other until they cling around my thigh.
“You look beautiful, baby,” he whispered wetly into my ear as he swept a hand over my pussy and cupped it over my panties. He pushed them to one side and worked warm saliva on it and as he lathered up my warm pussy with it he slipped a thick calloused finger between my lips. I tensed, not in fear but in delight, as it slid up and down my slit.
There was moonlight coming in from an open window next to my bed and I could see his shadow as he worked to pull his erection out of his pants. He then took my limp hand and placed it over it and had me clutch it in my hand. I could feel its size as it gently slipped through my grip while he probed his finger deeper into me. I slid my hand to its shaft and began masturbating it. He bent over me, and in whispers, asked if he could fuck me, saying, ‘would you let your daddy do it to you?’ I turned my head towards him and as I squeezed and stroked his dick in my hand I, in a panting whisper, gave him consent.
He had me slide down towards the edge of the bed where my legs dangled. He knelt between my legs and began kissing his way up my thighs towards my wet pussy. I gasped. When his tongue spilt my pussy open I instinctively wrapped my legs around his shoulders and pulled him towards me. His hot breath swept over my tummy as his tongue slid up and down my pussy parting hairs, and, my pussy. I clutched my hands on the bedspread and tried hard not to let out my excitement as his tongue sank into me, and then scratched burning little circles over my clit. I remember asking him if this time he would put it into me. He kissed my pussy and then kissed his way up to my right breast and nursed feverishly on it, and then assured me he would.
As he pulled his foreskin back over his dick, he let a big glob of saliva fall on its head and then began smearing over it. I watched in excitement as my chances grew nearer, and fixed my eyes on the tip of his large head as it neared my pussy. When he lifted my legs and held them up at his waist he let me feel its stiffness. I groaned. It crushed against my moist pussy with forceful thrusts as he tormented me with sinful stabs. My mouth was wide open, gasping in delight, as I lie waiting for what I imagined would be better than any carrot I’d ever had. He kissed my lips, leaving his dick pressed throbbing on my pussy, and again asked if he could fuck me. His voice was excited with traces of awe. I reached up and wrapped my arms in an embrace around his neck and, squirming on him, assured him that he could. I promised my vow of silence and with that assurance I felt his large head gently pop into me. I grabbed his wrists and, moaning softly, held on as his groin crushed up to me, as he slipped into me effortlessly. His thrusts became energetic and a bit more forceful with the assurance that I could take it. And I did, all seven inches of him!
I couldn’t sleep afterwards. My thighs were left quivering when he left my room, and I was left like my panties dangling. I kept replaying the fuck over-and-over in my head until I was certain I’d captured every grunt and every thrust. I wanted to imprint it so I’d never forget it. My sore pussy was left dripping saliva, cum, and juices as it pulsated in its struggle to get back its shape.
My dad had left me squirming in bed, thoroughly fucked. But I had finally come to the prominent status I secretly yearned to achieve with him --a pleased bitch. From then on I knew I’d never have to touch another vegetable ever again.
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2011-03-27 07:00:52 hot. I had my very first fuck from my father at just 8 years old. Instead of taking me to school, he took me to a motel...he had it all planned. We watched xxx movies, my first.
Then dad told me he was going to fuck me...after he took some pics....I did not even know what fuck was/???
He made me..get nude, then took pics of me..on my back..legs open wide. Then he fingered me...broke my cherry..ya, i bled.
His cock was huge, it hurt going in me. We fucked lots. Since then, I am 12 now.....we go out at nites with the car. Dad goes into bars...and gets men...they pay to fuck me in the back of the dad drives around. I think a big black guy got me pregnant now...His cock was so was in my womb...for sure...I could feel him spurt soooo damn much sperm into my belly. No wonder his baby is in me.Dad thinks it is funny.
2006-07-04 17:33:14
great story thanks for posting it...
2005-04-22 06:41:22
Great story up to the part where he fucked you and it just stopped. Should have told us more about that part. gave it a seven... Keep writing more...
2005-02-24 20:34:55
Very good, hope we have several more parts!!
2004-12-09 09:03:19
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64299 | Cass McCombs, The Musical Art Quintet, Ayshay, Atlas Sound, Wax Idols — what we're listening to right now.
Cass McCombs' Wit's End, released in the spring, was as elegant and somber as a candle-lit church. It was consistent, too, both sonically and thematically. In contrast, Humor Risk, the singer songwriter's second LP this year, is eclectic, brighter, and less restrained. "Robin Egg Blue" is a breezy, nod your head side-to-side number, and "Mystery Mail" is crunchy hard rock. However, Humor Risk is hardly all smiles. After all, it's Cass McCombs. "The Same Thing" is upbeat, but the lyrics are chilling. And "To Everyman His Chimera" (a female monster that breathes fire) sounds like a sequel to Wit's End's "County Line"— it's stripped down and fraught with tension. On the whole, Humor Risk is as infectious as pop but so substantive that it resists being called it. (James H. Miller)
This lively local string quintet formed at Sunday jam sessions at Revolution Cafe (homebase of its label) with the purpose of fusing classical to Argentine, Cuban, African, and electronic dance rhythms. Not a novel concept, but main composer-bassist Sascha Jacobsen's concoctions hop nimbly through a world of styles while impressing with ear-catching intricacy and handsome technique. ("Turtle Island String Quartet high on Ástor Piazzolla" springs to mind.) Occasionally the project errs slightly in its earnestness — the jazzy positivity of "Life is Beautiful" is a bit relentless, although little kids will dig it — but indelible tracks like "Milonga de San Francisco" and Afrobeat-inflected "Fela Feliz" are spirited treats that will have you twirling across the floor. Musical Art Quintet performs Fri/18, 8 p.m., $10/$20 at the Collins Theater, 1055 Ellis, SF. (Marke B.)
It's nice when a record begins and immediately you feel as if you are being summoned into a secret ceremony. Raised in Kuwait and born in Senegal, Ayshay (Fatimi Al Quadiri) translates traditional Islamic songs into haunting and hypnotic spells on Warn-U. These tracks creep way under your skin, layered and looped vocal chants, alongside witchy electronics that bridge the gap between Grouper, Zola Jesus, Dead Can Dance, and Ofra Haza. There is something refreshing and rewarding about a debut that understands its scope. These four songs, coming in at 20 minutes, illuminate a singular vision and new voice that we're sure to hear a lot from in years to come. Simultaneously sensual and creepy. (Irwin Swirnoff)
The incomparable Bradford Cox's genius lies in his ability to mate transcendent lightness with cumbersome human vulnerability. His third release as Atlas Sound, Parallax, is the most refined example of this skill thus far. Shimmering harmonic tones blossom throughout Cox's celestial pop songs, but his stream-of-consciousness vocal musings are forever steeped in melancholy. "When you're down, you're always down," Cox cries over twinkling harpsichord loops on "Te Amo." "My Angel Is Broken" is an anthem for the downhearted driven by summery surf guitar riffs. Featuring piano and backing vocals from MGMT's Andrew VanWyngarden, "Mona Lisa" is a jangly cosmic joyride. The album's closing track, "Lightworks," floats off into oblivion like a lost balloon in the night sky. (Frances Capell) |
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Posted by Mark Angelillo, Mar 11, 2008.
Our first localized beta is finished. Without much fanfare until today, Snooth Talk slipped out of beta late last week after a few days of rapid development, changes and improvements. Many thanks to the beta testers. Your suggestions were extremely helpful.
Snooth Talk is a forum, but it tries to steer clear of traditional forum design and aesthetics. It's simple, it's clean, and it's completely integrated into the site. Before now I didn't feel that there was a comfortable way to carry on a global conversation with your fellow Snoothies and wine lovers. Now we can really begin to discuss what wine means to us. Snooth Talk is integrated into the Grapevine, so you'll be able to quickly find out if your friends have been talking, also there are now email notifications and RSS feeds if you want to stay in the loop. Still, we've got plenty of improvements planned in the coming months. I imagine you'll see the ability to post a tasting note into the forum if you would like to discuss a specific wine. You'll also begin to see content from the posts in Snooth Talk making its way into other parts of the site -- places where it will be relevant to see it if you'd like to read a bit more in depth about a specific topic, or if you're interested in hearing what the community thinks.
We're going to turn our attentions back to the data for a while. We'll be cleaning data and deduping records and adding content and merchants. We want you to be able to find and buy that bottle you've been eyeing, so if it isn't available for purchase right now, bookmark it and stay tuned. And please do let us know if there's a store you love that we're missing.
Finally, if you signed up for the beta during this round (and I'm happy to report there were quite a few of you!), we've got your requests safe and sound. Thanks for your offer of support -- you'll be added to the list soon.
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Hard starting in the morning
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Subject: Hard starting in the morning
From: "Sumner Weisman" <>
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:24:37 -0400
Cc: "Triumphs" <[email protected]>
If the previous evening was damp, or condensation occurred (which would
evaporate during the warmth of the day), it may be the ignition wires or
distributor cap. You can get a spray to waterproof them, but it's better
to replace them if they're old and porous.
Condensation can occur at sunrise or sunset when the air is cooled to the
point where the dew point and the temperature are equal (100% R.H.).
That's when you see dew on the car surfaces (or frost if it's below
Sumner Weisman
62 TR-3B
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:28:46 PDT
From: "Keith McGahan" <>
Subject: Won't start in the morning
I thought that I had fix the starting problem from I had a few weeks
ago, but now I have a new starting problem. In the morning when I go to
start the car, the engine will turn over but it won't start up. In the
evening when I go to start the car it starts right up. I believe that I
have checked all the wires, plugs ect. Does any one have any
TR4 64' CT31334L
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64479 | Call for Papers Reminder (extended): World Congress on Engineeringand Computer Science WCECS 2011
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Call for Papers Reminder (extended): World Congress on Engineering and
Computer Science WCECS 2011
CFP Reminder (extended): World Congress on Engineering and Computer
Science WCECS 2011
Draft Paper Submission Deadline (extended): 16 July, 2011
Camera-Ready Papers Due & Registration Deadline: 30 July, 2011
WCECS 2011: San Francisco, USA, 19-21 October, 2011
The WCECS 2011 is organized by the International Association of
engineers and the computer scientists. The congress has the focus on
the frontier topics in the theoretical and applied engineering and
computer science subjects. The WCECS conferences serve as good
platforms for our members and the entire engineering community to meet
attracted more than one thousand participants from over 30 countries,
and our conference committees have been formed with over two hundred
and sixty committee members who are mainly research center heads,
faculty deans, department heads, professors, and research scientists
from over 20 countries.
All submitted papers will be under peer review and accepted papers
will be published in the conference proceeding (ISBN:
978-988-18210-9-6). The abstracts will be indexed and available at
major academic databases. The accepted papers will also be considered
for publication in the special issues of the journal Engineering
version of the selected papers may also be included as book chapters
in the standalone edited books under the framework of cooperation
between IAENG and publishers like Springer. For reference, the
following post conference edited books of our recent IAENG
conferences: Trends in Intelligent Systems and Computer Engineering,
Advances in Communication Systems and Electrical Engineering, Advances
in Industrial Engineering and Operations Research, and Advances in
Computational Algorithms and Data Analysis, have been published by
The WCECS 2011 is composed of the following 15 conferences (all will
be held at the same location and date):
ICCB 11
International Conference on Computational Biology 2011
ICCE 11
International Conference on Chemical Engineering 2011
ICCS 11
International Conference on Circuits and Systems 2011
ICCSA 11
International Conference on Computer Science and Applications 2011
ICCST 11
International Conference on Communications Systems and Technologies
ICEEA 11
International Conference on Electrical Engineering and Applications
ICEIT 11
International Conference on Education and Information Technology 2011
ICIAR 11
International Conference on Intelligent Automation and Robotics 2011
ICIMT 11
International Conference on Internet and Multimedia Technologies 2011
ICMHA 11
International Conference in Modeling Health Advances 2011
ICMLDA 11
International Conference on Machine Learning and Data Analysis 2011
ICMSC 11
International Conference on Modeling, Simulation and Control 2011
ICSCA 11
International Conference on Soft Computing and Applications 2011
ICSEEM 11
International Conference on Systems Engineering and Engineering
Management 2011
ICSPIE 11
International Conference on Signal Processing and Imaging Engineering
WCECS 2011 is now accepting manuscript submissions. Prospective
appropriate style) to WCECS{at} by 16 July, 2011. The
The first page of the draft paper should include:
(1) Title of the paper;
(3) A maximum of 5 keywords of the paper.
should be stated in the email.
It is our target that the reviewing process and the result
notification for each submitted manuscript can be completed within one
month from its submission. The reviewing process is to ensure the
quality of the accepted papers in the WCECS congress. The conferences
have enjoyed high reputation among many research colleagues.
WCECS Congress Co-chairs
Prof. Craig Douglas (WCECS Co-chair)
Distinguished Professor of Mathematics, University of Wyoming
Visiting Professor, Computer Science Department, Yale University, USA
Co-Chair, Biomedical Engineering IDP
Professor of Electrical Engineering and Professor of Surgery
The Henry Samueli School of Engineering & Applied Science
University of California, Los Angeles, USA
Former Chair, SPIE Health Care Engineering & Technology Policy
Former Vice Chair, Health Care Engineering Policy Committee, IEEE
Prof. Jon Burgstone (WCECS & ICIMT co-chair)
Faculty Chair
Center for Entrepreneurship & Technology
College of Engineering
University of California, Berkeley, USA
Board Member of the Rock Center for Entrepreneurship at Harvard
Business School, Harvard University
Professor of Electrical Engineering
Department of Electrical Engineering, Jack Baskin School of
University of California, Santa Cruz, USA
The IEEE Third Millennium Medal (2000)
and Signal Processing Society
Former Associate Editor of the IEEE Transaction on Automatic Control
Professor of Computational Linguistics
Former Head of Department of Linguistic Computing, University of
Trier, Germany
and Knowledge Engineering (GTW)
Prof. Lei Xu (ICSCA honorary co-chair)
IEEE Fellow and IAPR Fellow,
Member of European Academy of Sciences,
Chair Professor, Department of Computer Science and Engineering,
The Chinese University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong
More details about the WCECS 2011 can be found at:
It will be highly appreciated if you can circulate these calls for
papers to your colleagues.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64506 | Youthful abandon
What is it about being at home that makes my kids think they can act like mindless barbarians?
Slack Dad is recovering gently from half-term, thanks for asking. He spent the final days of this interminable juvenile bacchanalia wondering why it is that the brood, who mind their Ps and Qs when staying at granny and grandpa's (again, many thanks) should so completely abandon them once they return.
What it is about the home, their real-life parents, that makes them think they can act like mindless barbarians? Is there a sign above the front door we haven't noticed? ("Abandon all respect, ye who enter?") I suppose it's a simple matter of releasing tightly pressurised urges, but how did they get these urges in the first place?
What are they for? What does it serve, in either the short or the long run, to reset as the default answer to any and all requests, however manifestly reasonable, eg "Get your hand out of the toaster", a flat and automatic "no"? It causes unnecessary friction and makes the grown-ups tired. We don't actually give in - we're not complete milquetoasts - but it doesn't half grind us down, this gratuitous insubordination. Was I like this at their age? (Which, for the record, tops out at nine.) Surely not. No one was. We would have been spanked back into the Stone Age. There is something in the water, the mood of the times. And with odd, unforeseen twists: such as the law known as Inexplicable Bad Influence Syndrome.
What happens is that Child B, who is generally as good as gold (or as close as you're going to get to that condition in these debased and frantic times), comes round to play with your own offspring, hereinafter referred to as Child A. Child A, in fact, can also be as good as gold, etc, if not nearly consistently enough for you to be entirely happy. Child A, yours, suddenly starts acting as if he or she is auditioning for a remake of The Exorcist. Cheek isn't the word for it; rank effrontery is more like it. The parents are dissed, publicly and with a timbre and timing seemingly calculated to cause a maximum level of astonishment and outrage in the parent.
The details are too painful to go into right now. However - and this is the funny thing - Child B continues to be as good as gold. Angelic to the point of being Victorian. Child B observes Child A's horrific demeanour with the detachment of a naturalist, and then asks for more of that lovely broccoli. When the parent of Child B returns, you hand the offspring over with a trembling hand and ask if there is any chance of a semi-permanent swap.
It's all about showing off - I know that, I'm not a complete idiot - but why does this so invariably happen? Although I have a horrible suspicion that my children, when visiting, never adopt any cherubic standards of grace and manners. When I ask, on picking them up,"Was everything OK?", it is with the kind of trepidation that one asks a friend how his five years spent chained to a radiator by a Thomas Harris psychopath went. One expects, frankly, the worst.
At least we know enough not to waste our money on books written by the experts. No one is an expert. The thing is to see what other parents are doing. Here one places a lot of trust in the commonality of experience. First, one studies to see if they have a technique, or whether they are winging it as desperately as you. I have a hunch they often are, but thinking along these lines is quite alarming. By "technique" I mean "ad hoc attitude, which one adopts in order to reassure other parents that one has not in fact lost all control of the situation".
One that serves well with the right kind of parent - almost invariably a father - is a bluff parody of inhumanely patrician discipline, in which one addresses the boys as "boy", the girls as "young lady", and jocularly announces a regime of bread and water and more or less indefinite incarceration. Interrupted by the odd Latin lesson and a mild to severe flogging. All very obviously a joke, for, as you say this, the children are in fact riding their bikes down the stairs, setting fire to your trousers and screaming like baboons.
As for doing anything that might actually modify their behaviour in order to reach a base level of civilisation, forget it. One may as well try to influence the orbits of the planets. For, like planets, the youngsters return to their courses. Whether it is the tedium of continuous mischief, the dawning of selflessness, a hard-wired instinct for self-preservation,or simple exhaustion, one cannot really say. All one knows is that, miraculously, it happens, and that when you say "please do X", they actually do it. In their own sweet time, of course. |
global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64507 | The practical feminist
With her 1962 book Sex and the Single Girl, Helen Gurley Brown became a spokeswoman for sexual liberation. But her three decades as editor of Cosmopolitan also made her a hero for working-class women, says Jennifer Scanlon
Helen Gurley Brown
Helen Gurley Brown. Photograph: George DeSota/Getty Images
More than three decades before Sex and the City became a television phenomenon, Helen Gurley Brown wrote Sex and the Single Girl, a guidebook for women who wanted to live large and stay single. The book was a rallying cry for unmarried women, exploding myths of lonely spinsters, and became a sensation on both sides of the Atlantic. It was published in 28 countries and 16 languages and the fame it brought led Brown to the position for which she became legendary: editor of Cosmopolitan magazine. With its provocative covers, featuring lots of hair, bare skin and cleavage, the magazine quickly came to stand for a new kind of female: fearless, independent, and undeniably sexy. It too became an international success - after the British edition was created in 1972 other countries followed and the magazine eventually reached more than 100m readers around the world.
Over the years, Brown has been interviewed by countless journalists but ignored by scholars. Critics point out that she peddled cleavage on every month's cover of Cosmo, suggested that women should work the system rather than overthrow it, and even saw her offices taken over by protesting feminists. Yet to me Brown deserves a place in the pantheon of 20th-century feminist leaders. She was not just an infamous promoter of women's sexual liberation, she was a working-class woman's role model who declared herself, her magazine and her message feminist.
But can a woman who peddled cleavage be a trailblazer? Helen Gurley Brown was an early and influential advocate of open discussions about female sexuality. In the postwar period, western women got lots of advice on how they should live their lives - namely through men and marriage with sex subordinate to both. Single women who could not attract a husband were pitied; single women who had the temerity to choose not to marry were scorned. During those years, Brown, a secretary and then an advertising copywriter, held off on marriage and dated widely, including colleagues and bosses, living, as she would advocate for her readers, in "superlative style". She allowed herself to feel and act on sexual desire, which she considered as natural for women as for men. "You inherited it," she said simply, encouraging other women to allow themselves the same sexual desires - and freedoms - men enjoyed.
When Sex and the Single Girl hit the bookshops in 1962, Brown's philosophy resonated deeply and broadly. The book spent months on the bestseller lists and was published in 28 countries. The Kinsey Reports, the fruits of research into postwar sexual practices, had already demonstrated that Americans practised more sex than they preached. Sex and the Single Girl went further. It offered women inspirational case studies rather than scientific analyses. Women who hoped to find their own proclivities for sex and sensuality affirmed found in the unapologetic Brown the spokeswoman they craved. By focusing on women's calls for steamy sex rather than matching washer-dryers, she developed an enormous following among single and married women alike. In the aftermath of the book's publication she received so much fan mail that her local post office eventually decided they would no longer deliver it. Three years later, Brown took over the ailing Cosmopolitan magazine in part to connect with these devoted fans. Her followers considered her a liberator who freed them from the confines of an outdated but still intact ideology.
Brown also came to understand that her high sales figures meant she could have fairly free reign over her publications, which included numerous books. But had she had her way, lesbian sexuality would have emerged in her writings from the start. Brown fought, first with her publisher and then with the higher-ups at Hearst, to include queer sexualities not as aberrations but as normal elements of grown-up life. In drafts of her most important books, and in the template for Cosmo, she had stories of lesbians inside and outside of the workplace. Brown lost the battle several times but waged it anew from time to time, wanting to celebrate the many ways in which women found expression socially and sexually. Her notions about sex were lesbian-friendly from the start.
Brown's famous Cosmo covers were visual examples of her philosophy, and they resonated with millions of women and across more than three decades, contrary to what some other feminists might have believed or hoped. Brown intuitively understood that not just men but women enjoyed looking at beautiful women, and believed that all women benefited from seeing female sexuality writ large. She understood well that women, as feminists later would claim, "performed" femininity as they put on and took off skirts of varying hemlines, cosmetics and heels. She balked at the idea promoted by other feminists of the day that women had to forgo these practices to become liberated. Yes, women's sexy appearances invited men to look, but Brown would never apologise for that. Sex, and sexiness, formed tools if not weapons in women's arsenal.
Unlike Betty Friedan, the author of The Feminine Mystique, who wanted to liberate middle-class housewives from their boxed-in lives, or Gloria Steinem, whose Ms. magazine targeted college-educated women, Brown deliberately targeted working-class women with her game plan for liberation. A child of the Great Depression, who came of age in a single-parent family, she had the brains but not the opportunity to attend college. Instead, she worked in low-paying white-collar jobs in her earlier years, and felt an affinity for the secretaries, retail clerks and airline attendants who read her books and magazine. Like her, these women often had to find ways to work the system, since they hardly had the privilege to beat it. Even if they wanted to leave off wearing makeup and dresses, which many did not, they would have been hard pressed to find jobs that allowed them to reject the female uniform of the day. These women largely pursued jobs, not careers, and if they worked the system again after hours by relying on men to pay for their nights out - well, they could hardly have had much of a social life on their salaries alone.
It wasn't that Brown did not push for greater changes for women. She actively worked for the equal rights amendment, which would have constitutionally guaranteed women in the US rights equal to those of men, and for reproductive rights, including abortion. She looked for opportunities to promote the practical changes endorsed by more political feminists, but still maintained that her women had to play the system as best they could. Brown advocated work (not men) as women's greatest ally, but she also understood the limitations of the work world just as she understood the limitations of men. She knew that her working-class followers might find only one or two job titles available to them regardless of their skills - and might repeatedly watch less-qualified men be promoted over them. They should, as a result, always allow men to pay for nights out, for babysitters if they were single parents, and for alcohol if they happened to invite a man in to their apartment. When others repeatedly faulted her for this philosophy of manipulating rather than refashioning the economics of sex and gender relations, Brown's response was simple and direct: "I deal in reality."
In 1970, feminists targeted Cosmopolitan, among other women's magazines, as being hopelessly stuck in an anachronistic past. They took over the offices of the staid US woman's magazine the Ladies' Home Journal, and once inside feminists were able to push the magazine to offer greater coverage of women's paid work and interests outside the home. But when they tried to take over the offices of Cosmopolitan and demand feminist content, they encountered not an uncertain male editor but a woman who let them know that she saw her magazine as already feminist. Her readers, she knew, wanted to read about men and sex as well as money and work, and she saw it as her responsibility as a feminist to give them more rather than fewer choices about how they lived their lives.
In the end, many women who remained only partly aware of, or unmoved by other feminist leaders, found an affirming vision and voice in Brown. Countless women were touched by this pioneer who promoted women's empowerment - and feminism - in her own upbeat, practical and fearless way.
Bad Girls Go Everywhere: The Life of Helen Gurley Brown by Jennifer Scanlon is published by Oxford University Press on 25 June. |
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'I did not call Tony Blair a smarmy git'
What does he really think about the prime minister? And just how angry is he that Labour let him and the Lib Dems down? As the second volume of his candid diaries is published, Paddy Ashdown tells all to Stephen Moss
I had expected to find the allegedly retired Paddy Ashdown relaxing in his cosy cottage in Somerset; I couldn't have been more wrong. In his small and immacutely organised office - a battery of communications equipment on the desk, political cartoons and photographs on the walls - his computer is whirring, the fax is humming, his phone is bleeping, an unseen secretary is taking messages. He has just been on Radio 5 to discuss the "war" (a word of which he heartily disapproves in the present context); is preparing to appear on Question Time (a wretchedly ill-starred mission); and is planning his maiden speech in the House of Lords. He anticipates my first question. "How is retirement? I'll tell you when it starts."
He asks me to wait while he sends a rapidly typed email. I sit on a low settee about two feet below his swivel chair. Not intentional, perhaps, but the result is a kind of implied subservience. His friendly wife Jane, who is clad in overalls and about to take delivery of wood for the winter, brings us mugs of coffee. Their dog parks himself in the doorway to listen to the interview. He doesn't bite, though Paddy occasionally does.
You call Blair a "smarmy git" in the new volume of your diaries, I say at the beginning of one question. That's as far as I get. "I did not call him a smarmy git," he says. "I said that people saw him as a smarmy git. There's a fundamental difference in those two statements, although the press don't seem to be able to make that distinction." Later on, I ask him whether his wife knew about his affair with Tricia Howard before the press went to town on it. This time, I get about a third of the way through the question. "Look, there've been acres and acres and acres and acres and acres and acres of coverage of this," he says, "and it doesn't need any further comment from me."
This week sees the publication of the second volume of the Ashdown diaries, covering the period from the 1997 election to his resignation as leader of the Liberal Democrats and the election of Charles Kennedy in August 1999. While less diverting than volume one, it is fascinating on his relationship with Blair and the attempt to build a coalition between their two parties.
The problem, of course, is that "the project" - Ashdown's bid to unite the progressive forces in British politics and bring the Lib Dems into government alongside New Labour - came to nothing. This week, the joint cabinet committee which was one of the chief fruits of the Blair-Ashdown negotiation was suspended. The diaries chart a passionate relationship that ultimately ended in a tearful parting. If a week is a long time in politics, four years is an eternity.
Was Blair stringing the trusting Ashdown along, hedging his bets, keeping the Lib Dems on side just in case he needed them? Ashdown thinks the thesis not just cynical but ridiculous. "I challenge any fair-minded person who doesn't start off with a preconception to read this book and conclude that he wasn't sincere about it. No prime minister, given all the pressures on him, would have devoted so much time to it if he wasn't serious."
I make the mistake of pursuing the "Blair the betrayer" line. "The cynic could easily believe that, and it's not an unreasonable proposition," says Ashdown, "but the facts point in completely the opposite direction. You have to believe that this was such a deep-laid plot that (a) he could do it for four years; (b) he could do it by devoting so much time to it when he was hugely under pressure; and (c) it was so cleverly laid that he was also confusing his own cabinet members." He cites the fact that John Prescott calls him "the liberal".
So why did Blair abandon the project and leave the Lib Dems out in the cold? Ashdown blames opponents of reform within the cabinet, in particular Prescott, Gordon Brown and Jack Straw. This cynic is less than convinced and wonders why the all-powerful Blair didn't drive it through immediately after the 1997 election when his mastery was indisputable. Ashdown accepts that that was the moment when it would have been possible to bring the Lib Dems into government and draw up a joint programme.
"He could have done it in the first months," says Ashdown. "The real opportunity was missed between the election and November, as with so much else. I said to him then, 'If you don't do it now, it'll get more difficult.' He could have done all sorts of things. He could have done Europe. Are you suggesting that there was a conspiracy not to do Europe as well? The fact that he didn't do what he could have done in the first crucial months of this government does not necessarily mean that he was intent on betrayal."
Wasn't he furious that Blair reneged on his commitment to hold a referendum on PR? "I was pretty grumpy about it, but in politics you deal with realities and here's the reality. If we had had a referendum on PR after the votes for the Scottish and Welsh assemblies, we would have lost."
Ashdown's view of Blair is double-edged. He clearly likes him and accepts that he has redrawn the boundaries of British politics, but he thinks the PM's vision is fuzzy and the failure of the project a historic error that will rebound on the Labour party. "The third way Blair tried to put together was already in existence," says Ashdown. "It's called liberalism, though Blair's is a rather weak version of it. I don't think he's closer to establishing a philosophy. It's still a jumble of ideas without a connecting thread. Some of them are very good, and very liberal, but it's still a jumble."
This is where the "smarmy git" comes in. "I went to see Blair once and took a taxi which dropped me in Whitehall. Without any prompting from me the taxi driver said, 'What do you think of the prime minister then, because I think he's a smarmy git?' So when I went to see Blair, I said: 'This bloke just said this to me. I'm afraid he reflects a view that would be acknowledged by many of those who might otherwise support you, and the reason for that is that the public like to see politicians' backbones and no one can see yours.'" This was evidently one of the rockier evenings in their lengthy political affair.
Blair's chameleon qualities confuse his enemies, says Ashdown, but they also alienate the public. "So many people who could be Blair's supporters, activists, helpers, proselytisers don't join in because they find him an enigma. All politicians should be an enigma, but he is completely unresolved. People want to know where you are coming from. When you become leader of a political party, the public spend some time sizing you up and then you take on to yourself a sort of shape. Some politicians - Ken Clarke, Michael Heseltine - play to their shape. I've watched Charles [Kennedy]. At the start it was very difficult for him; he didn't have a shape. But after the election he has a shape - blokeish, tells the truth, unpompous, unstuffy..." Likes holidays, I suggest. Ashdown concurs. "Charles Kennedy and Ken Clarke - the anti-heroes of politics."
The thought of Iain Duncan Smith as Tory leader makes him chuckle. "We have one huge secret weapon - the Tory membership. It always and consistently selects the wrong person; it has done so in byelection after byelection, in Newbury right the way through to Romsey." Yet Ashdown does not believe that the Tories will be wiped out, or that the Lib Dems can replace them. "How do you take over from the Tory party? There is a perfectly respectable centre-right position in this country. If the centre-right doesn't have a candidate to vote for, do they go to the Liberal Democrats who, if anything, are further to the left than Labour are? The answer is no."
"Where are the Lib Dems?" asks Ashdown. "We're a centre-left party. Where are the Tories when they're electable? They're a centre-right party. How do the Lib Dems replace a centre-right party? Only by adopting centre-right policies, which manifestly we're not going to do. So we can borrow votes from the centre-right while they're disenfranchised and that's a perfectly good tactic, but it's not a good strategy. As soon as they have a decent centre-right leader, they will go home."
Ashdown wonders what will happen to New Labour, already weakened by the loss of Mandelson, when Blair goes. Might that be the end of New Labour too? "Who follows Blair?" he says. "There is only one person - Brown. Will it be New Labour in the Blairite form? No it won't. It won't be old Labour either. Maybe it'll be somewhere in the middle - middle-aged Labour. But it certainly won't be New Labour. If Blair gives way to Brown, it will be Camelot converted into Gormenghast. Owls will hoot as you go up Downing Street, but maybe that's what we need after all the flim-flam and the gold and the glitter, a gloomy, faintly Gladstonian figure who goes around counting his ministers' postage stamps."
So is Ashdown's cherished project - the convergence of New Labour and old Liberals - dead? "The chapter is closed but the book isn't," he says. When does it happen? "The likely result is that it won't happen again for a political generation, until after Labour has lost an election, but ultimately it will happen."
• The Ashdown Diaries: Volume II 1997-1999 is published by Penguin Press, price £25.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64517 | Computer code in films: hidden meanings or irrelevant nonsense?
From the the scrolling text in The Terminator to the hacking methods in The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, one programmer is on a mission to crack movie codes
The Doctor examinines an SVG file taken from Wikipedia
The Doctor examines an SVG file taken from Wikipedia. Public Domain
Ever wondered what those Matrix-style green holographic codes that flicker across computer screen in films actually mean? You know, those seemingly complex algorithms in The Fifth Estate and unbreakable cryptograms in Doctor Who? Well, programmer John Graham-Cumming has the answer.
"I was watching the film Elysium and some coding came up as the space station is rebooted, and I thought: 'This is really familiar', so I tracked it down," explains Graham-Cumming, who started coding at the age of 13 on his BBC Microcomputer and is now a well-known blogger and programmer. "It turns out that the code is actually taken directly from the Intel software developer's manual, which I found amusing. So I tweeted that and got hundreds of responses." Last Friday, he launched a Tumblr to compile more examples; by Monday morning it already had 11,000 followers and Graham-Cumming was inundated with suggestions for movie codes to crack.
Code from Elysium
Code from Elysium. Photograph: John Graham-Cumming/Tumblr
The process of identifying the sources of movie codes is actually quite simple. Graham-Cumming takes a screengrab and immediately gets a sense of whether the code is possibly legitimate or utter nonsense. If an unusual character or variable stands out, he picks it out and Googles it. In most cases, whether the codes is purporting to guide a missile or rifle through confidential databases, it's likely to be a pretty mundane cut and paste job.
There are some real howlers. Graham-Cumming was tickled while watching Antitrust, a thriller about a wannabe Bill Gates: "I cracked up watching these computer nerds looking at code, nodding and saying: 'Whoa, this is great man,' when it was really the most basic Java script that is completely meaningless." In The Terminator, we see the world through T-800's head-up display, yet the scrolling text accompanying the crosshair in his vision is the harmless assembly code for an Apple-II. But the sources for fake coding just get better: in one episode of Doctor Who, Matt Smith looks intently at some hovering code, yet on closer inspection, it's the reference for a simple image file – a picture of a lightwave – lifted from Wikipedia.
Code in The Terminator
Code in The Terminator Photograph: John Graham-Cumming/Tumblr
Computer programmers must laugh when they see characters in films adjusting their thick-rimmed glasses, furiously typing, then gazing at a code that probably only says: "Hello world." Graham-Cumming finds it surprising, though, that these details, which might be central to a plotline, are rarely given more thought and attention by directors, particularly as plausible codes are so easy to find through open–source websites such as GitHub and SourceForge.
However, there are some impressive examples of programming detail. Jurassic Park was clearly ahead of its time: actors worked on realistic, high-performing Silicon Graphics computer systems and in one classic classic scene, teenager Lex Murphy logs on to the computer and exclaims: "It's a Unix system, I know this," which relates to a real operating system.
Code in The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
Code in The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Photograph: John Graham-Cumming/Tumblr
More recently, The Social Network provided a visually compelling, technically authentic narrative about the process of programming. When Mark Zuckerberg, played by Jesse Eisenberg, types the commands for "facemash" using PerlScript, it is woven in with his explanation of the procedure in plain text and HTML on his blog. In David Fincher's The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, heroine Lisbeth Salander is depicted as searching for files using the same process that real developers use. With the rise of high-definition screens and screen-capture tools, and with gadgets such as Google Glass increasingly likely to be used on screen, there will only be more opportunities for smart-ass code-reading. Directors take note. |
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Just found out about a potentially annoying WordPress 2.8.3 security issue. Basically, anyone can reset your admin password without any confirmation. This could be a major annoyance if someone decides to reset your admin password constantly.
I just tested this (on one of my own test blogs, of course) and it actually works. After anyone visits the URL, it sends the new password to your e-mail address. If you’re in the middle of doing something in your admin panel, you may have to login again.
Luckily it’s just a one line fix, which you might want to implement if some annoying person thinks it’s funny to reset your password. WordPress 2.8.3 was just released a little more than a week ago. Do I hear a WordPress 2.8.4 coming soon?
If this happens to you, and for some reason you don’t receive an e-mail with the new password and find you can’t login to your blog, you might want to look into resetting your WordPress password through phpMyAdmin.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64583 | "The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Next" is the third and final film (not counting upcoming American remakes) in the stunning trilogy based on Stieg Larsson's best-selling novels.
Larsson's "Hornet's Nest' made many of the 2010 best-of book lists. The movie version belongs on 2010 best-of cinema lists.
"Hornet's Nest" stands alone. You can see it without having seen the two previous films in the series, or having read the books. Flashbacks and recounting narrative bring you up to speed.
What's fascinating about "Hornet's Nest" are the uncanny similarities between the film's Mikael Blomkvist (Michael Nyqvist), crusading publisher of the fictional Millennium magazine, and Julian Assange of the very real WikiLeak.
While the connection isn't direct, Blomkvist's cyber-manipulation in the third film, as well as that of Lisbeth Salander (Noomi Rapace), the "Girl" of the movie title, in the previous films, is the new cyber face of espionage. The ultimate James Bond gadget is the worldwide web.
In "Hornet's Next," Salander is virtually inert, first in a hospital bed, recovering from near fatal injuries in the beating-fight with Alexander Zalachenko (Georgi Staykov), revealed in the second installment to be her father, and known as Zala, a former Russian spy who fled to Sweden.
Salander, next confined to a maximum security jail cell and then seated at her courtroom trial, doesn't get to kick the hornet's nest until Zala's henchman, Ronald Niedermann (Micke Spreitz), more menacing than ever -- especially now that it's revealed he's Salander's half-brother -- shows up for a Cain and Mabel sibling sting.
This is gritty, startling and extreme cinema, directed by Daniel Alfredson, who also directed "The Girl Who Played With Fire," from a screenplay by Ulf Ryberg, based on Larsson's novel.
"The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Nest'," MPAA Rated R (Restricted. Under 17 Requires Accompanying Parent Or Adult Guardian) for strong violence, some sexual material, and brief language; Genre: Crime, Drama, Thriller; Run time: 2 hr., 27 min.; Swedish, with English subtitles; Distributed by Music Box Films.
Credit Readers Anonymous: "The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Nest" was filmed in Sweden, including Stockholm.
Box Office, Dec. 10: "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader," opened at No. 1 with $24.5 million, with "The Tourist" opening at No. 2, with $17 million.
3. "Tangled," $14.5 million, $115.6 million, three weeks; 4. "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part 1," $8.5 million, $257.6 million, four weeks; 5. "Unstoppable," $3.7 million, $74.2 million, five weeks; 6. "Black Swan," $3.3 million, $5.6 million, two weeks; 7. "Burlesque," $3.2 million, $32.5 million, three weeks; 8. "Love and Other Drugs," $3 million; $27.6 million, three weeks; 9. "Due Date," $2.5 million, $94.8 million, six weeks; 10. "Megamind," $2.5 million, $140.2 million, six weeks
Continuing: Because of popular demand, "The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Next" is screening through Dec. 16 at Civic Theatre of Allentown's 19th Street Film series at Theatre 514.
The Girl Who Played With Fire" was also held over in August in the 19th Street Film Series, which also gave "The Girl Who Played With Fire" its Lehigh Valley premiere.
Unreel, Dec. 17:
"Black Swan," rated R: Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis star as a ballet dancer and her rival in a thriller directed by Darren Aronofsky ("The Wrestler," "PI"). The film opens Dec. 17 at Civic Theatre of Allentown's Theatre 514 and moves to Civic's main theater following the Dec. 18 conclusion of the "A Christmas Carol" stage show.
"Tron:Legacy," rated PG: "Tron, Tron, Tron ... Tron." Sam (Garrett Hedlun), receiving a signal from the old arcade, goes for a digital meet-up with his dad, Kevin Flynn (Jeff Bridges).
"Yogi Bear," rated PG: Hey, hey, hey ... Dan Aykroyd voices Yogi and Justin Timberlake voices Boo-Boo in the live action-CGI return with Anna Faris as a documentary film-maker back in Jellystone Park.
"How Do You Know," rated PG-13: Writer-Director James L. Brooks asks the musical question of Reese Witherspoon, who dishes it out between Paul Rudd and Owen Wilson, all watched over with hoary grace by Jack Nicholson.
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I enjoyed Of Gods and Men, so I'd be willing to give this a look. Really... are you going to demand your money back if it doesn't measure up?
That ship looks almost like a mix between a Bird of Prey and the Defiant... given Dorn's penchant for inserting his character into all things Trek, the Captain Worf thing could happen... guess we'll see.
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It's quite possible that future science has determined that learning calculus is the easiest and most intuitive at that age, and grows more difficult in later years - much like certain century-old beliefs about teaching languages are currently challenged and earlier-is-better arguments put forth.
But future science might have found similar shortcuts to the learning of medicine or comparable fields. Or then it's simply a technology issue: rather than inefficient lectures, one gets the facts from interactive media - and needs much fewer facts (relatively or even absolutely) because the entire pool of facts is now available to one, pre-digested, through various expert programs and whatnot, and cramming it into one's brain would only be counterproductive.
Any good scifi ought to tackle the problems of general education in a world that offers way too much for any poor pupil's brain to cope with, and grows worse in that respect by the day. Should only absolutely necessary things be taught, tailored for each pupil so as not to overload him? Would novel education techniques help? Should no facts be taught at all, because the time would be much better spent teaching the pupil to learn by himself? Centralized classroom-style education obviously survives in Star Trek, but AFAWK only as a hobby project for the well-intentioned but potentially utterly incompetent Keiko O'Brien...
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I have a lot of goals.
1. Learn the ropes of my new position. I just started a few weeks ago. I've already been sort of useful, but my new boss is extremely busy and doesn't have time to point me to everything I need. There have also been issues getting me set up with the software I need, so I can't even do what I need to do. Things might be tough for a while.
2. Get a bigger place this summer. That one's a question of money and location.
3. Finish editing my friend's novel.
4. Finish editing my own novel (a NaNo from last year.)
5. Work on a visual novel with my girlfriend.
6. Continue working on SagaSim (the world simulator linked in my sig.)
7. Get my son's medical issues addressed (or at least get some progress going.)
8. I have a couple other story ideas I'd like to put down, too. One of them, I am already writing. Should probably turn out as a short story.
9. Rebuild my primary Web server since it's kind of a mess.
10. Take a vacation with my girlfriend sometime this summer. May go to Montreal.
I always have a lot going on.
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The doctor can fix it but that doesn't mean that boxing isn't dangerous
If the doctor can fix it then what's the "danger?"
If the EMH's objection is to any activity the could possibly produce an injury, then that covers quite a bit of ground. We saw Picard riding a horse at a canter, Crusher (iirc) once treated a crewmember who broke their arm playing parrises squares.
just because an injury can be healed doesn't mean an activity can't be dangerous. A potential for injury is what makes something dangerous.
It's indeed an interesting question. In Star Trek, they can cure cancer with ease. Does that mean they can eat and drink and smoke whatever and as much they want, and excessively lie around in the sun? There are so many things that we should not do today because it causes cancer. Because right now, cancer is mostly deadly. But what if it could be cured by taking a pill?
Same for AIDS. If we could cure AIDS, could we finally fuck around senselessly?
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when you pretend to be hard at work to get your mom off your back about homework, but you're really watching tv shows on hulu.
I was ninja studying last night. Learned everything off of bones and house. Think I'm ready for that biology test now!
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A punk rock band that formed in 1995 and broke up in 2004.
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verb; the act of having sex on a certain object or within a certain place.
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There are a few items on the list of 100 things to do before I graduate that I need to sexecute in my time at Cornell.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64693 | AE, American Eagle, a chain of stores similar in fashion to A&F (Abercrombie & Fitch). Many "preps" shop at Ae's, choosing their fashion for its close proximity in style to that of A&F for a lot less money. Clothes at AE tend to be more conservative, choosing to cloth the individual rather than giving up a free peep show. Although conservative it remains fashionable amongst "preps". AE lacks a wide range of selection so many preps wear the same clothing items.
AE offers polos, khakis, skirts, bathing suits, and sheer logo tees.
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Abbreviation for the "Action Express" round seen used so often in Dersert Eagle pistols. Comes in 7 round clips and is extremely powerful, capable of punching a hole through light tank armor and easily penetrating kevlar vests. If the bullet is hollow point, it will enter the target (i.e. a 55 gallon barrel), and leave a hole the size of a nickel, but upon exiting leave a hole the size of a soda can.
A Desert Eagle, equipped with .50 caliber AE rounds is quite possibly one of the most powerful guns ever made.
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(acronym) American Eagle Outfitters. Saddam's chain store.
I got my new ghetto backpack full of anthrax at AE.
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short for american eagle, a chain clothing store. american eagle is often compared to abercrombie and fitch by selling more expensive clothes that are highly worn by preps everywhere. the clothes are cookie cutter and worn by everyone, very unoriginal. however, ae is more conservative and a little less price and less fashionable than abercrombie.
omg, american eagle is having a sale soon!
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The bestsest cutest clothes ever *American*Eagle* wayyyyy *PREPPY* and *NOT* that *EXPENSIVE*
*that shirts from AE right?
*its way real cute!
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*how much was it?
-only like $35.
*thats totally cheap!!
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Check out that dude's AE. He's got one fine ass!
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1. (adj.) of an annoying or hindering nature
2. (n.) a person of an annoying variety, usually conscious of the annoyance they exude.
Frickermann! That camper just ruined my kill streak!
Dude, stop being such a frickermann.
That frickermann IB project is due tomorrow and I haven't even started!
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After engaging in anal sex, the penis is dressed like German dish with sauerkraut and German toppings alike. The other individual performs fellatio on the German dish, which tastes similar to a regular German meal.
Most common toppings; Saurkraut, spicy mustard, cheese, and semen (best served hott)
Works well when accompanied with a Shitler (see term for more details)
I asked this slut what kind of food she was in the mood for. She said German, so I parked the car and made her a German Taco. Lesson: Always keep sauerkraut in you're car.
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The act of making a someone else eat a sour patch candy for the sole purpose of shutting them up when they are either complaining, wining, getting on your nerves, being unreasonable, being mean, getting upset or any other reason you would want them to shut up.
Normally just shaking the box and placing it in your console is a sufficient warning. If you don't have the box of Sour Patch candies, you can just make the noise the box makes when you shake it (like a chika chika sound) and that will remind the person they are on thin ice and are about to be handled.
In the event that you actually HAVE to Sour Patch someone's ass, they must eat a minimum of two Sour Patch candies. This creates an extreme sour flavor and a sharp twinge under the ear area. Normally this will stop the unwanted behavior.
Great for car trips, small children, grandparents and anyone who hates sourness.
"If you don't quit your bitchin' I'm going to Sour Patch your ass!"
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similar to the dreaded c (cancer) but in this case p (pedo)
(A) omg did you hear about that man over there
(B) what man?
(A) the man with the long greasy hair and the big milk bottle glasses next to the park
(B)oh yea him
(A)well apparently he is a "dreaded p"
(B)omg thats just awfull
by monster munch November 01, 2009
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307,775 words of epic storytelling, crazy complex headcanon, and mindblowing character development, all encased within both the book and movie canon of How To Train Your Dragon, yet maintaining accuracy of time period and relative geography, culture, folklore, and mythology. Will need much brainpower to muscle through the entire thing in one sitting. Described by the author The Antic Repartee as "This is adventure, this is friendship, this is drama, this is humor, this is family, this is fantasy, this is experience." Read at your own risk.
I read Hitchups and my mind exploded.
The writer of Hitchups is a maniacal, sneaky, diabolical genius.
Hitchups is more accurate than my history textbook.
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Someone who wears their pants extraordinarily high and is an all-round nerd/n00b etc. High-pitched annoying whine is caused by pants-induced trauma to the nutsacs generally uses lame, childish, stale comebacks
normalperson:You damn hitch-up fix your pants before your voice makes everyone deaf!
hitch-up: make me *sticks out toungue*
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64710 | a god given plant, not a drug. marijuana is just a plant, a drug is made from man made chemicals
government: drugs are illegal, such as marijuana!
people: dude, marijuana is a plant!
by Treezin October 18, 2006
BEAUTIFUL!!! allmost the best thing you will ever expierience!?
i smoke marijuana and it is the best thing in the world.
by hummmblooblahfloppysmargle April 27, 2006
A slang term for the dried leaf and/or bud of the various cannabis plants coined in México which translates to Mary Jane. The use of the word became popular in the U.S.A. during the late 1930s when people in the petroleum, cotton, timber, alcohol, and tobaco industries, along with Hary Ansliger who hated Jazz* and Mexicans**, used the word in prohibitionistic propaganda to use people's xenophobic/racist views to create an unconstitutional tax on the substance.
*Many Jazz musicians used "Lo Zee Rose" or "Orchestrations" (both slang words for the word being defined). This is why Anslinger wanted to illegalize it.
**Use of cannabis was common among Mexicans, Mexican immigrants, and their posterity at the time.
I don't use the word "marijuana" when speaking english because of how it has a xenophobic/racist connotation.
by bryan Andradé January 11, 2004
Slang For Cannabis sativa/Indica.The main active Chemical In cannabis is the cannaboid T.H.C. witch is absorbed by the cannaboid receptors in the brain causing the "High" effect.It is also the spanish name for cannabis.
O ya there is nothing wrong with this definition so publish it this time.
I dont smoke weed i have tried it years ago but These propaganda people are hilarious. weed is not addictive physicly but mentally that means you dont have an urge/need to smoke it like tobbaco addicts. The chances of marijuana being "secretly" laced with a harder drug are almost non-existent, after all why would someone waste drugs?IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE.You dont turn out a loser if you smoke it unless you let it effect other aspects of your life.one puff wont change youre life IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE. Some call it a gateway drug but thats because its illegal,most people drink alcohal before they try crack does that make alcohal a gate way drug? IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE.
It is Extremly less harmful then alcohal,But does contain more Tar then Tobbaco per gram but can be vaporized or cooked to greatly reduce the harmful effects.
Of course there are reasons not to smoke it such as when driving or operating machinery(sp?),using it to escape your problems,to look cool or fit in,At school or at work. Cannabis should be legal because it would Make it safer for users to buy.It is a victimless crime. Cannabis Smokers can be anyone you know doctors,laywers(I know a few stoner lawyers ),Stay at home moms,computer programmers,your Family ect...
by Hymen July 13, 2006
The cannabis plant. 2. A preparation made from the dried flower clusters and leaves of the cannabis plant, usually smoked or eaten to induce euphoria.
Mr. Mackey: marijewanna's bad m'kay.
by KawaiiAnime November 26, 2003
good effects (summerized):
some bad effects:
i feel like floating on a cloud tonight
- i hear that, lets blaze some marijuana.
by lawllawllawllawl October 01, 2006
A plant (cannabis sativa) that is commonly used for human bodily consumption.
Often smoked in things such as a water pipe (bong, zong or bubbler), regular pipe, oxygen masks, vaporizers, hookahs, blunts, joints, and spliffs, or eaten in things such as brownies or cookies.
Marijuana comes in standardized portions, that then vary dependant upon your dealer. The main divisions are Nick, Dime, Dub, Quarter, Half, Oscar, QP or Cutie, Health, and Baby. Of the lowest quality (but still worth smoking) weed, a Nick is 1.4 gram, a Dime is 2.8 grams, a Dub is 6 grams, Quarters weigh in at 7.1 grams, a Half is 14.2, and Oscars are 28.35 grams, or one ounce. QPs/Cuties are quarter-pounds, or 4 ounces, Helath is short for Health Points, or HP, which is a half pound, or 8 ounces, and a Baby is one pound, or 16 ounces. The first few (Nick through Half) are called such because of their pricing; a nick is $5, a dime is $10, a dub is a bouble dime, so $20, a quarter is $25, and a half is $50 (they're based on a $100 standard). Everything over that is not standardized in monetary amounts, just size; it comes down to your dealer or provider for those pricings.
There are multiple differet varieties of marijuana, divided into three different types. Type One is the basic stuff: it will get you high, but isn't as strong as type Two. Type One green is marked by gray ash, inflamed eyes (red and/or glassy), and intense paranoia. Type Two weed is characterized by whiter ash, glassy eyes, decreased paranoia, and mild hallucinations (nowhere near the same as Savia Divinorum, Acid/LSD, or Mescaline). Type Three weed is special. Much likehow you cut cocaine with other drugs, this is grown or mixed with other drugs, thus making it hard to judge or characterize a certain persons' high.
Type one includes regular, or regs, Type two include crip, or crippie/crippy, and Type three includes Purple Haze (weed mixed with acid) and White Widow (weed mixed with coke, also called "dirty").
There is also a supertype of weed, called "hydro". Hydro is any marijuana plant grown in a hydroponics system, and therefore, any type can be grown hydroponically.
This is probably a pointless addition, but it should be noted that the consumption of marijuana in any of its forms is considerably safer than any other drug, be that tobacco, caffeine, or any of the considered harder drugs. There are no chances of losing your mind or any of the like when doing marijuana, like there are on acid, nor is it a lethal addiction, like with oxycontin and crack.
The three most popular ways to do marijuana are (in no particular order) smoking, eating, and drinking. With eating and drinking, there are very few risks. The main one is overdose, and the others fall under the categories of drving accidents and potential jail time. Overdosing on weed is nearly, but not entirely, impossible. One would need 5 (five) pounds of solid THC (tetrahydracannabanoid, the active ingrenient) in their system in order to overdose. In smokers terms, you would literally need to smoke a bowl a second for two days straight. For browniws, since on average, about half of a gram goes into a batch of brownies (roughly a quarter ounce of 'reg' weed), one would need to eat 4,500+ BATCHES of brownies in the same amount of time. Cookies usually have twice the potency, so about 2.250+ batches of cookies. For drinking, one would have to imbibe half a gallon of pure THC, or a gallon and a half of Green Dragon, which has roughly 33% THC per fluid ounce. Granted, one can make stronger (higher THC concentration) brownies/cookies/drinks, but when you do, you're wasting expensive weed (again, not all weed is as cheap as regs).
Smoking, however, opens a slew of problems and risks. For one, its illegal in the States. This makes smoking less viable, as it gives of smoke and a potent stench. Beyond that, one must remember that they are smoking, and that has its own risks. Mostly, carcinogens. That, if you didn't know, is the stuff in the smoke that can (and usually does) cause cancer.
One must also concider, though, some of the most popular ways to get high on marijuana involve a filtration system involving water. Carcinogens are primarily water- and alcohol-soluble, so smoking through a bubbler, a bong, or a zong that has a water or alcoholic chamber through which the smoke must pass through, will considerably decrease the amount of carcinogen intake.
Marijuana, if legalized, would stimulate the economy and decrease crime rates. Beyond all of the silly reasons, like "its good for anorexics" and "people would eat and make restaurant owners rich", the economy would boost dramatically. Marijuana is a fast- and easy-growing plant, requiring only 12 hours of sunlight and regular watering (for which there are systems that are fully automated), that can be made into incredibly soft and durable materials, such as clothing and paper. If Marijuana was legalized and sold by the government at current prices, the economy would boost dramatically. Were it regulated with the same force that cigarettes and alcohol are, crime rates would plummet*. The government would make a considerable profit off of all parts of the plant, all the way from the leaves down to the stems and seeds. Leaves would be smoked, obviously, stems would be made into cloth and paper goods, and seeds would be planted and sold. Similarly, the glass and plastic companies would receive more business, further stimulating the economy. Crime rates would drop because the growth, sale, and usage wouldn't be illegal. Obviously, driving while intoxicated and public intoxication (like being stupid-high) would be illegal, but gettng baked in the comfort and safety of your own home would not be.
*Another thing to worry about is the fact that marijuana is a gateway drug. This is not true in the idea that people who use marijuana are more likely to become addicted to another drug, but rather in the fact that dealers don't make much money off of herb, and try to open their customers to other, often harder and more expensive, drugs. If marijuana was sold legally, like at a gas station or at liquor stores, there wouldn't be harder drugs to sell people on, so they wouldn't be introduced to them, and further on that, they wouldn't feel the need to try them to keep their dealer happy (so said dealer won't cheat them).
It is also true that there are more first-try addicts to cigarrettes than there are to alcohol, and far more first-try alcohol addicts than there are to marijuana. Average statistics and polls show 98% addiction rates in tobacco smokers, 76% addiction rates in alcoholic inbibers, and a 52% addiction rate in marijuana users.
Beyond that, Marijuana is a naturally occurring plant of sweet scent (even to a non-smoker) and good physical attraction. Only downfall? Bees are affected by THC as well, and Marijuana pollenates with THC (which I find quite commical to watch).
Everyone reacts differently, but the same, to Marijuana usage. Some people get sleepy, some people get hungry, some people get intro/extro-verted, others get stupid or silly, some get gigly, and some get all of the above. In all my experience of smoking and eating with all of the people I've done it with, no-one but no-one has ever wanted to go out and do something harmful whilst on the "drug." The criminalization of Marijuana was done based off of a slanderous campaign (starting with the movie "Reefer Madness", portraying a marijuana user getting high and killing his family, followed by himself), and has only stayed illegal because it has been illegal. If stoners would have reacted to the campaign against the herb, the outlawing of marijuana would have been lifted just as quickly as Prohibition. The problem is, they were too busy getting stoned and not being worried to react appropriately. A shame, truly.
Beyond its recreational usage, Marijuana is a highly recommended choice by doctors for the treatment of glaucoma patients, extremely depressed patients, and HIV/AIDS -positive patients. In some states, such as California, Nevada, and New-York, it is entirely possible, and probable, to be prescribed G-13, or government weed, for any of those three reasons, as well as a few similar ones.
As a final note, let me point out just a few things. it is a well-known and widely accepted FACT that many of our founding fathers, as well as many of our greatest minds (in America) have smoked Marijuana. George Washington and Benjamin Franklin, as well as Abraham Lincoln, have in their personal diaries or in the first-hand accounts of relatives/co-workers/servers, recorded information regarding their use of Marijuana. This has been true for many a political leader, confirmed as recently as JFK, and even more so than that, Bill Clinton (although, we're told he didn't inhale. Right.).
Peace, love, and marijuana.
1."Hey man, can I get a quarter of that mary-j?"
2."Sure. Speaking of which, want to smoke a jay?"
1."Sounds like a plan. Next, we'll hit my bong, and be good for the night."
2."Yeah... this government weed is the shit!"
1."Hells yeah"
1. "Man... you want to do anything?"
2. "Nah, dude, I'm too blazed on this marijuana. Let's stay home and watch tv, dude."
1. "Yeah... just remind me not to smoke before I work, I don't want o lose my job because I was too stoned to move."
2. "You got it. Weed friends don't let friends lose their jobs, bec--"
1. "Because then they can't afford weed. Duh!"
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Outwardly, Supposedly. The most likely assumption
The ostensibly heterosexual man keeps threatening to shove things up his co-workers asses. The No Child Left Behind Act is ostensibly for improving education.
by Jimmer September 03, 2004
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64715 | An evil little creature, that is seen in the forest or when your super high. If you ever see one of these creatures be aware that it is ploting against you and all of society. This creature is bent on taking over the world!!!
person a (while looking at his hand): Oh Shit!! It's a squirrel!!
person b: WTF?!?!
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by Stinko Man February 04, 2003
a person who gives alot of blow jobs.
they alway have a mouth full of nuts
guy #1: that hoe is such a squirrel
guy #2: yea every time i turn around
she got a mouth full of nuts
2. a goofy, hyperactive person
1. Let's go shoot some squirrels with my BB gun.
by zachwolff October 16, 2003
by Red Squirrel January 04, 2004
by xsenia January 12, 2005
while giving that definition, i totally just squirrelled.
by GISSUM December 31, 2009
"see her? squirrel!
...thats my squirrel."
"hey man that was my squirrel you just hit on"
by henryyyzie September 09, 2007
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64716 | making someone look at or
I tinged him good. His eyes burst and he cried tears of blood after seeing that shit.
by Bonertown January 28, 2003
Any embedded foreign object or small growth needed to be removed from your skull via non-invasive outpatient surgery.
The Dr. had to remove a "ting" he got by playing with his pellet gun, it's not so bad it was only a few stitches.
by Deeconchested January 15, 2013
a word that can replace a object, action or question
im going to go do ting
please pass the ting
by leelum22 April 05, 2011
The best soft drink in the world. Like Lilt but actually made with Jamaican grapefruit.
Favourite drink of ex 6music dj George Lamb.
Guy 1: Right now I'm nutty for Ting.
Guy 2: Oh yeah, it smacks of win. Lilt is proper wooden.
by andTing August 21, 2010
Boy: Hey, what you up to tonight?
Boy: Lets do this ting!
by It Ends Here. June 06, 2010
Yet another example of tin-eared rappers butchering the english language... and everyone lapping it up
moron: we doin' big tings bro
moron's friend: ye wurd up massif to erryone in da hiz haus boh! boh! boh!
by felix c March 27, 2007
Pretty lady
by Anonymous September 07, 2003
A Ting is a text that is composed of songs lyrics, thus being a textual way of singing, coined Tinging.
I'll just ting my girlfriend some marvin gaye lyrics. bitches loves marvin gaye.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64794 | Steven Spielberg Is Making a Halo TV Show
Steven Spielberg will executive produce a live-action TV series based on the video-game franchise Halo, he announced today at an Xbox event. The show, World of Halo, is for Xbox Live — which means Microsoft is getting into the original programming game, too. On the one hand, hey, anyone would kill to get Steven Spielberg onboard with a project! On the other hand, his most recent shows are the nonentity Falling Skies and the short-lived Smash, The River, and Terra Nova. No word yet on when exactly the show will launch or what exactly we'd have to do to get Beyoncé's "Halo" in there somehow. |
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Promoting Make Presentations Accessible
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We welcome your help telling presenters, trainers, conference organizers and others about How to Make Presentations Accessible.
Resources & Pointers
Audience & Messages
1. Conference organizers - make your whole conference accessible, require that your speakers make their presentations accessible
2. Presenters - reach all of your audience!
Blog & newsletter ideas you can use
See W3C blog 20 Feb 2012
Tweet ideas you can use
(Note: short URI to blog post:
E-mail ideas you can use
See Feb 2012 WAI IG e-mail
(Note: short URI to blog post:
To conference organizers:
main points:
• please add a link to this document on your website wherever your provide information for speakers
• please send this link to your speakers and encourage them to make their presentations accessible
• consider including accessibility as a requirement in speaker contracts
example 1 (drafted by Shawn)
Subject: [Acme] Conference Quality Improvements
Hi [organizer],
You can improve the quality of [your conference | conference name] through accessibility. *Inclusive conferences and presentations are accessible to people with disabilities and work better for all your attendees, including those without disabilities*. There are many additional benefits of inclusive presentations, especially if you are in a large venue, have remote participants, provide podcasts of presentations, or make material available after the conference.
W3C WAI has a resource to help conference organizers and presenters improve your events:
How to Make Presentations Accessible to All
*Because this is so important, I am writing to ask if you would send this link to your speakers and encourage them to make their presentations accessible*. (and let me know if you do, as we are tracking outreach on it :)
(As always, we welcome suggestions on how we might improve this resource in future versions. You can comment on the blog post at or send e-mail to the publicly archived list or WAI staff-only list )
Thanks for your help making conferences and presentations more accessible!
To presenters:
EOWG planning & record keeping
2012 blogs, newsletters, references, etc.
Mailing lists
• WebAIM - 20 Feb, Jennifer
• VICUG-L - 20 Feb, Jennifer
Presenters for Specific Conferences
e.g., the conference organizers said they were sending (or had sent) the info to their presenters
LinkedIn groups
2012 EOWG Recent Contacts
• W4A 2012 - sent email to General Co-Chairs Julio Abascal & Markel Vigo, 26 March, Shawn (and Shadi before that :/
• WWW 20120 - sent e-mail to conference contact, 20 Feb, Shawn
• ICCHP - ?, Shadi
• distributed to 17 people via private email campaign, Feb. 20, Jennifer
• SXSW interactive to Hugh via personal e-mail (reply: This is great -- we *will* try to get this out to speakers... in future years, it would help a ton to get something like in October or November (which is when we first start communicating with speakers) shawn: That URI is stable and you can add it to your template for communications for later this year. ;) update: "we incorporated into the last-minute e-mail that ISA (interactive speaker assistants) are sending to speakers.") - 22 February 2012 - Shawn
• An Event Apart to Jeffrey Zeldman via personal e-mail, to Marci Eversole via contact form (reply: Thanks Shawn, I will pass this information on for you. Marci) - 20 February 2012 - Shawn
• Digital Accessibility Expo organizers to [email protected] and Kevin Price direct e-mail - 20 February 2012 - Shawn
• UN Enable Newsletter - 27 February 2012 - Vicki
• Promoting the use in own organisation (National Board of Social Services) planning to expand to rest of organization: Ministry of Social Affairs and Integration and translate into Danish - 16 March - Helle
• presented at Canberra Barcamp 2012 - 17 March - Andrew
• Noticed this recent project, Making Events Accessible launched by Social Care Institute for Excellence. On March 25, sent Feedback to request that "Making Presentations..." be included (Jennifer).
To Do:
Conference that specifically want to target (mostly those that overlap with the primary audience of WAI work):
• AccessU conferences held by Knowbility next: May 15 to 17 in Austin
• ATIA, Jennifer, Feb 22, 2012 - but would be good to follow up later
• European eAccessibility Forum
• Accessibility barcamps/unconferences (NOTE: Jennifer emailed Jennison directly about this on Feb. 22, but individual follow-ups would be good, closer to the dates), including:
• Web Directions conf series
• Webstock
• Edge of the Web
• ...
(Andrew wonders why just conferences that have a primary target of WAI work? - ah, because of EO's charter? {shawn replies: yup.})
Vicki says: even so, :) many others to reach, so I would like to propose contacting: UN Organizations, I can reach the conference persons in a number of the organizations (e.g. UNOG, UN NY, ITU, ILO, WHO, UNCTAD, UNHCR, UNDESA etc.) {shawn happy for you to contact all these!!!}
Presenters & bloggers that presenters read
• Chris Brogan (Consider whether Jennifer should ask Glenda W-H to promote How to Make Presentations Accessible on his site).
• Chris Heilmann's site -- since he attends a lot of conferences, he might be willing to promote |
global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64799 | WakeWorld (http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/index.php)
- - 6 speakers with (2) 4-Channel Amps?? (http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=750758)
ship_of_fools 12-07-2009 8:32 PM
I currently have 4 in-boats speakers running on one 4 channel amp. <BR> <BR>1 set of speakers are mid boat, right next to the drivers and passenger seat. The other set is front of the rear bench, on the sides of the boat. <BR> <BR>I would like to add 2 more speakers up in the bow. <BR> <BR>All speakers are Polk Audio DB651's and both amps are Cadence SQA-4's. <BR> <BR>What would be the best way to wire all this together? Which amps should be running which speakers? <BR> <BR>I was planning on leaving the rear 4 as they are and bridging the other amp for the fronts?? <BR> <BR>These 6 speakers will all be running on the front channel as I also have tower speakers. <BR> <BR>(Message edited by ship_of_fools on December 07, 2009)
deltabri 12-07-2009 9:02 PM
I would just make it easy and add 2 more speakers (8 total).
ship_of_fools 12-07-2009 9:32 PM
That is an option too. <BR> <BR>I have 4 extra Polk Audio's (from upgrading the tower speakers) and the 1 amp. Just not sure where I would put the other 2 speakers?? <BR> <BR>Just thought I would hold on to them for spares.
chpthril 12-08-2009 4:01 AM
If i'm reading your post right, you have 4 cabin speakers and 2 tower speakers currently running off two 4 chnl amps. <BR> <BR>Ok, without looking up the specs on the amps, or knowing what tower speakers you have, here is what I would recommend you do with what you have: Wire the 2 bow speakers to chnls 1 and 2 of one of the 4-chnl amps. Next, wire the 2 port side main-cabin speakers in parallel to chnl 3 and do the same with the 2 starboard side on chnl 4 of the same amp. This leaves the 2nd 4 chnl to power the tower speakers.
ship_of_fools 12-08-2009 5:29 PM
I actually have the tower speakers on their own amp. I updated the tower speakers to HLCD's and got a new amp for them. I used to have the SQA-4 and the Polk Audios on the tower. Now they are extra, so I thought I would add some speakers in the bow. <BR> <BR>I also have a 12" Wetsounds sub running on another amp. <BR> <BR>I am leaning toward just bridging the 2nd SQA-4 and running the bow speakers off of it. Does that make sense? Or, would it be better to bridge one set of the cockpit speakers?
chpthril 12-08-2009 7:14 PM
Ok, the SQA-4 does 100W's x 4 @ 4 ohms, 150W's x 4 @ 2 ohms, and 300W's x 2 in bridge mode. So, if you ran the pair of bow speakers bridged, that would be 300 watts RMS.....I believe your polks would go poof! And I would definitely not run 2 of the four main cabin speakers bridged with the other 2 not. <BR> <BR>Wired like I laid out above, the bow speakers will be running @ 100 watts RMS and each main cabin would be running at 75 watts RMS. This is very respectable power for a speaker that's rated for 55 watts RMS/165 peak.
joe_crawley 12-08-2009 7:33 PM
"All speakers are Polk Audio DB651's and both amps are Cadence SQA-4's" <BR> <BR>Those polks don't handle hardly any power, so I would urge you not to bridge. <BR> <BR>You should just run the new pair in parallel with one set of the cabin speakers and you'll be perfect- 75 watts to the DB651s is <u>absolutely</u> ideal.
ship_of_fools 12-08-2009 8:28 PM
Thanks for the replies. <BR> <BR>The SQA-4 is only 4 x 60W @ 4 ohms, 4 x 100W @ 2 ohms and 2 x 200W @ 4 ohm bridged. <BR> <BR>The Polk Audio DB651's are rated at 60W rms and 180W peak. <BR> <BR>So running them in parallel I would only be getting 50 watts to 4 of the speakers, correct? <BR> <BR>I see where bridging would be too much but I don't want to take anything away from the cabin speakers. And I already have the second amp. <BR> <BR>So maybe just run the 2 bow speakers on 2 of the 4 channels of the 2nd SQA-4 amp?? Can I do that - not use 2 channels? <BR> <BR>Or, can I run them bridged and turn the gain way down??
99_slaunch 12-08-2009 8:50 PM
Why not run them of the head unit?
99_slaunch 12-08-2009 8:51 PM
Why not run them off the head unit?
joe_crawley 12-08-2009 11:44 PM
They'll sound better if you run them off of 2 channels instead of bridged- bridging will certainly increase distortion. <BR> <BR>Aaron- In theory a head unit can push 35 watts, but in reality they only put out 15-20. This is actually more than enough if you don't crank your music. But generally if you have multiple amps you probably crank your music occasionally and then you'll have a weak link in the chain, which will sound like crap when you turn it up to 11.
882001 12-09-2009 4:54 AM
bow and midship -ran in series for 8 ohm load <BR>rears on their own channel. i find that i like no bow speakers so people can get to a more relaxing spot. not everyone wants to rock all the time.
ship_of_fools 12-09-2009 7:46 AM
882001 - I agree with having a "quiet spot". <BR> <BR>That is another reason why I was trying to wire these up to their own amp. I could turn the gains down or pull the RCA's if I need to temporarily turn them off.
jmcdanie 12-09-2009 8:30 AM
FJK, if you put them on their own amp, just add a switch to the remote wire from the head unit to the amp. Then you can just flip a switch to cut the amp off....quick and easy.
882001 12-09-2009 6:22 PM
just run a rca volume knob on the front <BR>. and wire the midship and back together in series and the fronts on there own channel.
mikeski 12-09-2009 8:36 PM
Off the head unit??? hope you are kidding... <BR> <BR>Option 1: Just use one amp parallel the 4 in boats to the rear channels and run the bow off the front channels <BR> <BR>Option 2: As you described front amp bridged to the fronts, rears all on their own channels. Don't push those bow speakers. <BR> <BR>In either configuration set the crossovers in highpass at 100hz. The problem with Polks is the low tweet crossover point. An extreme but viable solution would be to change the cap on the tweet XO to a higher value. Raising it from 2500 to 4000hz would double the power handling of the tweeter. Whatever the value of the existing capacitor is, divide by 2 and solder that one in series.
chpthril 12-10-2009 4:17 AM
"<i>882001 - I agree with having a "quiet spot". <BR> <BR>That is another reason why I was trying to wire these up to their own amp. I could turn the gains down or pull the RCA's if I need to temporarily turn them off.</i>" <BR> <BR>Does you head unit not have front and rear RCA outputs and a fade knob? Run the "Front" RCA's to the "Amp1" input, where the 2 bow speakers will be wired, then run the "Rear" RCA's to the "Amp2" input where the 4 main-cabin speakers will be wired. When you want quite time in the bow, roll the fade to rear!
ship_of_fools 12-10-2009 11:07 AM
TigeMike, My tower speakers are on the rear RCA's. <BR> <BR>Mikeski!!! Can you go into a little more detail about adding the new cap? <BR> <BR>What do you mean by the XO? <BR> <BR>I have 2 "things" on the back of the speaker now that look like caps. Not sure which is for the tweeter. <BR> <BR>Out of the 8 Polk Audio speakers I have, I had to re-solder at least 4 of them back on because they had worked loose or broke wires from when they were brand new. <BR> <BR>One of them says 0.35 mH and looks like it has a winding on it (so it may not be a cap). I have no idea what the other is, it doesn't have any markings. <BR> <BR>Would I be able to get the cap I need from Radio Shack? <BR> <BR>Does this just double the power handling capacity of the tweeter? <BR> <BR>What about the driver? And the overall power requirements? <BR> <BR>Does it affect the sound quality? <BR> <BR>Thanks
chpthril 12-10-2009 12:15 PM
Sell the unneeded 4 chnl and apply it towards an EQ. This will give the ability to fade/control volume to tower, rear, and front.
ship_of_fools 12-10-2009 2:07 PM
TigeMike, I already have an Clarion EQS746. How would an EQ fade 3 - front, rear and tower. (rear is my tower)? <BR> <BR>Also, as I mentioned, I don't want to take anything away from the existing cabin speakers. If I ran 4 speakers off of 2-channels I would only be getting 50 watts to each speaker (not 75). <BR> <BR>What would be the problem with running the bow speakers off of the 2nd amp - even in bridged mode? I can turn the gain down? <BR> <BR>And, I like Joe's idea of a switch to kill the power on the front amp if I need to.
chpthril 12-10-2009 2:52 PM
I'm not extremely familiar with the Clarion, but some EQ's have volume controls for each RCA output, such as front, rear, and sub. <BR> <BR>Although running 2 speakers in parallel @ 2 ohm does divide the total watts output to each speaker, you are doubling the speaker surface area in the main cabin by adding that 2nd pair. In your case, @ 2ohms, the 4 main cabin speakers will only be getting 10 less watts then if they were on their own chnl @ 4ohm. IMO, that 10 extra watts will not be noticeable. This is a very common setup. <BR> <BR>There is no problem with just using 2 chnls of a 4 chnl amp and running the bows of only half the 2nd amp. It just means one more amp to mount, added power draw, more power cable, etc. But again, no reason you cant do it, but it's just my opinion that it's not needed. <BR> <BR>I would not bridge these, 200 watts, IMO, is just too much. not to mention the added current draw of bridged v's stereo mode. <BR> <BR>Gain dials are not volume controls. They are intended to set it and forget it. Using a simple on/off switch in series of the remote turn-on wire for that amp is the best method for turning off a single amp.
ship_of_fools 12-10-2009 3:29 PM
The Clarion EQ does have front, rear and sub - but that still doesn't allow me to have front, rear, tower and sub. I haven't seen any EQ's that will do that. <BR> <BR>I think am I going to go ahead and use the 4th amp to run the bow speakers and leave the cabins as they are. I will probably add the switch to the remote turn wire to control that one amp. <BR> <BR>I am curious to see what Mikeski has in mind with the caps. That might determine if I bridge the bow speakers or not.
joe_crawley 12-10-2009 3:47 PM
you'd be trading sound quality for extra power handling if you increased the crossover point.
mikeski 12-10-2009 10:57 PM
yeah, nix the XO mod idea. David sent me a message, they are a 2nd order filter, not a first order so it has a cap and coil. You would need to change both, probably more trouble than it's worth.
ship_of_fools 12-11-2009 3:33 AM
OK, thanks Mikeski and David. I'll leave that alone. <BR> <BR>Now - to Bridge or not to bridge.... <BR> <BR>I have had these speakers wired in a bridge mode before, just to try them out. I thought there was definite improvement over having them wired to just one channel. <BR> <BR>But, if I blow them they won't sound good at all....
ship_of_fools 12-11-2009 3:34 AM
Oh, and if I was going to bride one pair - should it be the bow speakers? <BR> <BR>I do realize if it wasn't I would lose my ability to remotely turn off those speakers. <BR> <BR>(Message edited by ship_of_fools on December 11, 2009)
mikeski 12-11-2009 9:36 PM
Final Answer: <BR> <BR>Pull amp 2 and put in the attic as a spare. Wire it per Option 1 in my earlier post (same as what TigeMike has recommended). If you want to turn the bow speakers down just a PAC LC-1 or Schosche line level control inline to the RCA's to the front channel of the amp. This is exactly how my boat speakers have been wired since 2006. My amp is a bit more powerful than yours. The MMC's lasted from 2005-2008, I have one summer on the db651 (not db651s, those are shallow, but I assume your "s" is just for plural, not the actual part number).
ship_of_fools 12-11-2009 10:17 PM
OK - Thanks for all the input. <BR> <BR>Yes, the speakers are db651 and not the shallows - so the "s" was just for plural.
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Nov. 16, 2010 (Chicago) -- Stem cells taken from belly fat may be able to boost cardiac function after a heart attack, preliminary research suggests.
In a study of 14 people who had a heart attack, fat-derived stem cells reduced the amount of damaged heart tissue, increased blood flow in the heart, and improved the heart's pumping ability, compared with placebo.
Due to the study's small size, however, the difference between the two groups could have been due to chance.
"But given the dramatic and consistent results, we think it is a real effect," says study head Eric Duckers, MD, PhD, of Erasmus University Medical Center in Rotterdam, Netherlands.
U.S. stem cell researcher Douglas Losordo, MD, of the program in cardiovascular regenerative medicine at Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago, tells WebMD, "The evidence strongly suggests fat stem cells can stimulate the repair process after a heart attack. But these are still early days. We have to await the results of larger randomized trials [pitting placebo against fat stem cells] to determine if the method improves quality of life and extends lives."
It's not the first time heart attack patients have been treated with stem cells. But previous studies used bone marrow stem cells, Duckers says. "The advantage of fat-derived cells is the ease with which you can get them."
"You don't get enough stem cells from bone marrow, so you have to culture them in the lab, a process that can take six to eight weeks," Duckers tells WebMD. He estimates that the 40 cubic centimeters of bone marrow typically removed yields about 25,000 stem cells.
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By James Clear on 10 October 2011 (Updated 24 October 2011) 0 comments
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"Successful entrepreneurs know their weaknesses as well as their strengths."
The line above is a classic small business maxim that I believe most of us would agree with. Self-aware people are well-positioned for success and when it comes to being self-aware I have noticed two distinct types of business owners: entrepreneurs and managers.
We All Start The Same
In the beginning, everyone is a hustler.
You're a fire starter. You have to be. You can't bootstrap an idea into a profitable business without a little elbow grease.
Things start to change, however, once you accomplish a small amount of success. When you cross that valley of the unknown and realize that you're actually going to stay in business...well, then it gets interesting because most people settle into one of two categories.
Entrepreneurs vs. Managers
Entrepreneurs are go-getters. After they build a business, they are ready to push the envelope once again.
Day-to-day operations bore them to a certain degree. Sure, they are interested in continuing to grow their first company, but in their mind the daily grind of business is something to be delegated.
Entrepreneurs start companies because they want to change things. They expose gaps in the market. They are always moving on to the next idea.
Once entrepreneurs build one profitable business, they say, "Watch me. I did this once and now I'm going to do it again."
Managers believe in the business they built so much that they want to cultivate it on a daily basis. Once their first business is profitable, they view it as their personal responsibility to take it to the next level.
Managers may delegate some things and they certainly might tell themselves that they delegate often, but truthfully major business decisions usually go through them before they are approved.
Once managers build one profitable business, they say, "We're profitable. Now watch me take this worldwide."
You Can Be Successful Either Way
Let's get one thing straight: both entrepreneurs and managers can be wildly successful with their businesses.
It's not about one style being better than the other, it's about choosing the style that's best for you. I'll give you an example using two of the most successful business men of our time.
Richard Branson vs. Steve Jobs.
Branson is an entrepreneur. His Virgin brand now encompasses over 400 different businesses. 400! When he succeeds with one business idea, he is on to the next. In fact, the following quote from Branson is one of the reasons I wrote this article.
"An entrepreneur is not a manager. An entrepreneur is someone who is great at conceiving ideas, starting ideas, building ideas ... and then handing them over to really good managers to run the business." -Sir Richard Branson
Steve Jobs was a manager. Last month, Apple had the largest market cap of any company in the S&P 500. Jobs built a $300+ billion dollar business by operating in a manner very different from Branson.
Jobs was famously a micromanager and a perfectionist. Employees have noted him calling out tiny details in design changes (all of which had to be approved by him), grammatical and spelling errors in company documents, and so on. He would even answer customer service complaints as the CEO from time to time.
Which Are You?
Branson and Jobs have both been incredibly successful at building their businesses, but they have done so in very different ways.
For some of us, being a manager is the path to success. For others, being an entrepreneur is the best bet.
If you're an entrepreneur, then keep building businesses. If you're a manager, then focus on a single subject matter and become brilliant. This is about finding your strength.
Which type is best for your small business? More importantly, which one are you?
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theojjj 09-18-2010 05:48 PM
jk stereo upgrade help
I have a 2008 jk unlimited, it has all the factory stereo in it. I want to put in a aftermarket sub. Can anyone help me with a couple of questions.
-Does the standard head unit have rca outputs, if so how many?
-What is the max rms on the standard speakers?
-Would i be able to connect an amp to the standard speakers to make them sound better?
Jma20a 09-18-2010 06:37 PM
a new headunit would be first. that would give you the ability to hook up a sub and an amp for upgrading the speakers.
Loic 09-19-2010 03:30 PM
on oem speaker I would think a max of 35 w rms (maybe more like 15..)
snobrder540 09-19-2010 03:53 PM
you don't want to amp factory speakers they usually have a max power of less that 20 amps. if you replace the headunit the factory speakers typically will sound a little better and then you would have the rca outs for a sub and possibly front and rear speakers. i'll be building a box for my tj to hold a sub and two amps(one for the sub and another for speakers) in the next few weeks. i'll post some pics as i do it.
theojjj 09-20-2010 02:06 AM
it looks like I'll be getting new speakers all round and a new headunit. Does anyone know the sizes of the standard speakers.
Jaydogg25 09-21-2010 10:41 AM
stop by a local stereo shop and have them look @ your factory radio. starting about 2007 w/ the wrangler they started to use can-bus wiring for radios.. so may not be a normal $15-$20 wire harness. may need the $130 one. just a little warning. 2008 wrangler radio parts
you probably have the factory Infinity system in the jeep as it is...which makes it alittle more fun to do. since there will be a factory amp in there. sometimes can't just swap stuff w/o changing everything. some of these systems already cross over the factory speakers and aftermarket are made to run more full range.
if you do have the infinity system and a can-bus wiring i would realy look into how much you plan to spend. bc sometimes you may have to replace radio & all speakers as well as re-wire speakers to radio. though sometimes you get lucky and can use factory amp and just replace speakers.
if the only thing your looking to do is add a sub and you like the way jeep sounds then just do that. you can do that to any radio. no rca's on factory radio. only difference on installation from a factory radio compaired to aftermarket are the rca's & amp turn on wire. though u can get a line level converter to change factory speaker wires to rca's make sure you get full range signal or factory sub signal. it's not as clean as a aftermarkt signal but will get the job done..sometimes if you turn off radio you may get a "thumping sound" since amp turn on wire would be hooked up to ign. source and not amp turn on off a aftermarket radio.
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:mod:`concurrent.futures` --- Launching parallel tasks
Source code: :source:`Lib/concurrent/futures/` and :source:`Lib/concurrent/futures/`
The :mod:`concurrent.futures` module provides a high-level interface for asynchronously executing callables.
The asynchronous execution can be performed with threads, using :class:`ThreadPoolExecutor`, or separate processes, using :class:`ProcessPoolExecutor`. Both implement the same interface, which is defined by the abstract :class:`Executor` class.
Executor Objects
An abstract class that provides methods to execute calls asynchronously. It should not be used directly, but through its concrete subclasses.
:class:`ThreadPoolExecutor` is a :class:`Executor` subclass that uses a pool of threads to execute calls asynchronously.
Deadlocks can occur when the callable associated with a :class:`Future` waits on the results of another :class:`Future`. For example:
import time
def wait_on_b():
print(b.result()) # b will never complete because it is waiting on a.
return 5
def wait_on_a():
print(a.result()) # a will never complete because it is waiting on b.
return 6
executor = ThreadPoolExecutor(max_workers=2)
a = executor.submit(wait_on_b)
b = executor.submit(wait_on_a)
def wait_on_future():
f = executor.submit(pow, 5, 2)
# This will never complete because there is only one worker thread and
# it is executing this function.
executor = ThreadPoolExecutor(max_workers=1)
An :class:`Executor` subclass that uses a pool of at most max_workers threads to execute calls asynchronously.
ThreadPoolExecutor Example
import concurrent.futures
import urllib.request
URLS = ['',
# Retrieve a single page and report the url and contents
def load_url(url, timeout):
conn = urllib.request.urlopen(url, timeout=timeout)
return conn.readall()
with concurrent.futures.ThreadPoolExecutor(max_workers=5) as executor:
# Start the load operations and mark each future with its URL
future_to_url = {executor.submit(load_url, url, 60): url for url in URLS}
for future in concurrent.futures.as_completed(future_to_url):
url = future_to_url[future]
data = future.result()
except Exception as exc:
print('%r generated an exception: %s' % (url, exc))
print('%r page is %d bytes' % (url, len(data)))
The :class:`ProcessPoolExecutor` class is an :class:`Executor` subclass that uses a pool of processes to execute calls asynchronously. :class:`ProcessPoolExecutor` uses the :mod:`multiprocessing` module, which allows it to side-step the :term:`Global Interpreter Lock` but also means that only picklable objects can be executed and returned.
Calling :class:`Executor` or :class:`Future` methods from a callable submitted to a :class:`ProcessPoolExecutor` will result in deadlock.
An :class:`Executor` subclass that executes calls asynchronously using a pool of at most max_workers processes. If max_workers is None or not given, it will default to the number of processors on the machine.
ProcessPoolExecutor Example
import concurrent.futures
import math
def is_prime(n):
if n % 2 == 0:
return False
sqrt_n = int(math.floor(math.sqrt(n)))
if n % i == 0:
return False
return True
def main():
with concurrent.futures.ProcessPoolExecutor() as executor:
for number, prime in zip(PRIMES,, PRIMES)):
print('%d is prime: %s' % (number, prime))
if __name__ == '__main__':
Future Objects
The :class:`Future` class encapsulates the asynchronous execution of a callable. :class:`Future` instances are created by :meth:`Executor.submit`.
Encapsulates the asynchronous execution of a callable. :class:`Future` instances are created by :meth:`Executor.submit` and should not be created directly except for testing.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64956 | Cog Caverns
Population: Metroplis (25,000+ people live here)
The Cog Caverns is one of two cities in Nemora large enough to be considered a metroplis. Originally a collection of small underground Gnome cities in the northern caves, the cities each grew large enough that eventually the borders of the cities began to overlap each other.
Cog Caverns is the most technologically advanced city in Nemora and perhaps all of Kuranthia before the plague. It is the only city to have access to the steam and combustion engine, possesses a large construct army, utilizes the assembly line method, and the gun.
While Cog Caverns is a power house with its economy and technology, the city generates a large amount of pollution. Some of the more nature friendly races (such as the Elves, Shifters, and Lizardfolk), resent the Gnomes for this but have talking over terms for a more eco-friendly environment. There have been some extremists, most notably the Druids of the Grey Vale, that have openly attacked the city for its disregards to the environment.
Government: Cog Caverns have a constitution that was established long before most other governments were enstated in Nemora. The Gnomes, being a race of efficiency, have revised the constitution several times in attempts to create a stable yet speedy government. The Gnomes have a democratic society and probably the most effective one in Nemora.
The government structure is as follows: There is a Governor, an elected official, who has a single term of 6 years in office. If there is enough public support, he may run up to 2 more terms, each of 6 years. A Governor will usually have a group of advisors and the amount will range from 6 to about 9 advisors.
Military: Gnomes, in general, prefer not to fight on the open battlefield. As a result, Gnomes have developed an army of almost entirely constructs, known as the Clockwork Army. Gnome mages, marksmen, and rogues still enlist in the military to maintain the constructs, pick off enemies from afar, and scout enemy positions but it is extremely rare to see a Gnome fight in the front lines.
Inhabitants: Cog Caverns is mostly inhabitated by Gnomes but there is a fair number of Dwarves, Goliaths, Half-Elves, and Humans. It is rare but Shifters and Half-Orcs will make an appearance. Poisondusk Lizardfolk are basically nonexistant within the borders of Cog Caverns. Other races can be found with varying degrees of success.
Relations: Cog Caverns and most other regions are more or less neutral, except with 2 regions. The Gnomes are trade allies with most of cities but not close allies.
Durith and Cog Caverns were engaged in the Construct Wars about a decade ago. The Gnomes devasted Durith and ever since Durith has been an inconvience for the Gnomes at every turn. The other city of note is Harrax, which Cog Caverns is close allies with. The alliance started from trade but quickly grew to a more committed alliance.
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4. Alice's browser shows Alice the authentication page for and she signs in, establishing a new session at
For the duration of the signed certificate, Alice's browser can create valid identity assertions for whenever she wants to log into a web site with Persona.
Steps 3-5 can be skipped if Alice already has a valid session with, for example, from logging into her webmail or an intranet portal.
How websites interact with IdPs
Let's say Alice wants to sign in to Her browser would generate and sign an identity assertion containing the certificate from above and present it as proof of her identity.
Because the certificate was issued for, 123done fetches the support document from It then extracts the public-key and compares that to the signature on Alice's certificate. If the key matches the signature, 123done knows that the certificate is legitimate and can finish logging Alice in.
Security and trust
The BrowserID protocol, and thus Persona, are built on standard public key crytography techniques.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64979 | Eliezer Yudkowsky
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Eliezer Yudkowsky
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Eliezer Yudkowsky at the 2006 Stanford Singularity Summit
Born (1979-09-11) September 11, 1979 (age 35)
Nationality American
Eliezer Shlomo Yudkowsky (born September 11, 1979[citation needed]) is an American Machine Learning researcher, writer, blogger, and advocate for friendly artificial intelligence.
Yudkowsky is a resident of the San Francisco Bay Area.[1] Largely self-educated,[2]:38 he co-founded the nonprofit Machine Intelligence Research Institute (formerly the Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence) in 2000 and continues to be employed there as a full-time Research Fellow.[3]:599
Yudkowsky's interests focus on Artificial Intelligence theory for self-awareness, self-modification, and recursive self-improvement, and on artificial-intelligence architectures and decision theories for stable motivational structures (Friendly AI and Coherent Extrapolated Volition in particular).[3]:420 Yudkowsky's most recent work is on decision theory for problems of self-modification and Newcomblike problems.
Yudkowsky was, along with Robin Hanson, one of the principal contributors to the blog Overcoming Bias[4] sponsored by the Future of Humanity Institute of Oxford University. In February 2009, he helped to found LessWrong,[5] a "community blog devoted to refining the art of human rationality".[2]:37 LessWrong has been covered in depth in Business Insider.[6] Core concepts from LessWrong have been referenced in columns in The Guardian.[7][8] LessWrong has been mentioned briefly in articles related to the technological singularity and the work of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute (formerly called the Singularity Institute).[9]
Yudkowsky contributed two chapters to Oxford philosopher Nick Bostrom's and Milan Ćirković's edited volume Global Catastrophic Risks.[10]
Yudkowsky has also written several works[11] of science fiction and other fiction. His wide-ranging Harry Potter fan fiction story Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality illustrates topics in cognitive science and rationality.[2]:37[12][13][14][15][16][17] The New Yorker described it as recasting "the original story in an attempt to explain Harry’s wizardry through the scientific method."[18]
1. ^ www.yudkowsky.net
2. ^ a b c Singularity Rising, by James Miller
3. ^ a b Kurzweil, Ray (2005). The Singularity Is Near. New York, US: Viking Penguin. ISBN 0-670-03384-7.
4. ^ "Overcoming Bias: About". Robin Hanson. Retrieved 2012-02-01.
5. ^ "Where did Less Wrong come from? (LessWrong FAQ)". Retrieved September 11, 2014.
6. ^ Miller, James (July 28, 2011). "You Can Learn How To Become More Rational". Business Insider. Retrieved March 25, 2014.
7. ^ Burkeman, Oliver (July 8, 2011). "This column will change your life: Feel the ugh and do it anyway. Can the psychological flinch mechanism be beaten?". The Guardian. Retrieved March 25, 2014.
8. ^ Burkeman, Oliver (March 9, 2012). "This column will change your life: asked a tricky question? Answer an easier one. We all do it, all the time. So how can we get rid of this eccentricity?". The Guardian. Retrieved March 25, 2014.
9. ^ Tiku, Natasha (July 25, 2012). "Faith, Hope, and Singularity: Entering the Matrix with New York's Futurist Set It's the end of the world as we know it, and they feel fine.". BetaBeat. Retrieved March 25, 2014.
10. ^ Bostrom, Nick; Ćirković, Milan M., eds. (2008). Global Catastrophic Risks. Oxford, UK: Oxford University Press. pp. 91–119, 308–345. ISBN 978-0-19-857050-9.
11. ^ [1]
12. ^ David Brin (2010-06-21). "CONTRARY BRIN: A secret of college life... plus controversies and science!". Davidbrin.blogspot.com. Retrieved 2012-08-31. "'Harry Potter' and the Key to Immortality", Daniel Snyder, The Atlantic
13. ^ Authors (2012-04-02). "Rachel Aaron interview (April 2012)". Fantasybookreview.co.uk. Retrieved 2012-08-31.
14. ^ "Civilian Reader: An Interview with Rachel Aaron". Civilian-reader.blogspot.com. 2011-05-04. Retrieved 2012-08-31.
15. ^ Hanson, Robin (2010-10-31). "Hyper-Rational Harry". Overcoming Bias. Retrieved 2012-08-31.
16. ^ Swartz, Aaron. "The 2011 Review of Books (Aaron Swartz's Raw Thought)". archive.org. Retrieved 2013-04-10.
17. ^ "Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality". fanfiction.net. 2010-02-28. Retrieved 2014-12-29.
18. ^ pg 54, "No Death, No Taxes: The libertarian futurism of a Silicon Valley billionaire"
Further reading[edit]
• Our Molecular Future: How Nanotechnology, Robotics, Genetics and Artificial Intelligence Will Transform Our World by Douglas Mulhall, 2002, p. 321.
• The Spike: How Our Lives Are Being Transformed By Rapidly Advancing Technologies by Damien Broderick, 2001, pp. 236, 265–272, 289, 321, 324, 326, 337–339, 345, 353, 370.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64980 | Fortune (magazine)
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The June 16, 2014 issue of Fortune, featuring its Fortune 500 list
Editor Alan Murray
Categories Business magazines
Frequency Triweekly
Publisher Time, Inc.
Total circulation
First issue February 1930
Country USA
Language English
ISSN 0015-8259
Fortune was founded by Time co-founder Henry Luce in 1929 as "the Ideal Super-Class Magazine," a "distinguished and de luxe" publication "vividly portraying, interpreting and recording the Industrial Civilization."[4] Briton Hadden, Luce's business partner, wasn't enthusiastic about the idea—which Luce originally thought to title Power—but Luce went forward with it after Hadden's sudden death on February 27, 1929.[5]
In late October 1929, the Wall Street Crash of 1929 occurred, marking the onset of the Great Depression. In a memo to the Time Inc. board in November 1929, Luce wrote: "We will not be over-optimistic. We will recognize that this business slump may last as long as an entire year."[6] The publication made its official debut in February 1930. Its editor was Luce; its managing editor was Parker Lloyd-Smith; its art director was Thomas Maitland Cleland.[7]
Fortune December 1941 issue
Single copies of the first issue cost $1 ($14.12 today) at a time when the Sunday New York Times was only 5¢ (71¢ today).[6] An urban legend says that Cleland mocked up the cover of the first issue with the $1 price because no one had yet decided how much to charge; the magazine was printed before anyone realized it, and when people saw it for sale, they thought that the magazine must really have worthwhile content. In fact, there were 30,000 subscribers who had already signed up to receive that initial 184-page issue. By 1937, the number of subscribers had grown to 460,000 and the magazine turned half a million dollars in annual profit.[8]
From its launch in 1930 to 1978, Fortune was published monthly. In January 1978, it began publishing every two weeks. In October 2009, citing declining ad revenue and circulation, Fortune began publishing every three weeks.[10][11]
Marshall Loeb was named managing editor in 1986. During his tenure at Fortune, Loeb was credited with expanding the traditional focus on business and the economy with added graphs, charts and tables, as well as the addition of articles on topics such as executive life, and social issues connected to the world of business, such as the effectiveness of public schools and on homelessness.[12]
During the years when Time Warner owned Time Inc., Fortune articles (as well as those from Money) were hosted at
Fortune lists[edit]
Fortune regularly publishes ranked lists. In the human resources field, for example, it publishes a list of Best Companies to Work For. Lists include companies ranked in order of gross revenue and business profile:
List of managing editors[edit]
There have been 17 top editors since Fortune was conceived in 1929. Following the elimination of the Time Inc. editor-in-chief role in October 2013,[15] the top editor's title was changed from "managing editor" to "editor" in 2014.[16]
See also[edit]
1. ^ "Exhibit 99.1". Time Inc. Retrieved May 10, 2014.
3. ^ Fry, Erika (June 2, 2014). "What happened to the first Fortune 500?". Fortune. Retrieved August 2, 2014.
4. ^ FORTUNE prospectus. By Henry Luce. Fortune, September 1929, Volume One, Number Zero.
6. ^ a b Okrent, Daniel (September 19, 2005). "How the world really works". Fortune.
7. ^ "Current Magazines." The New York Times. February 2, 1930.
8. ^ Massey, Laura (December 11, 2010). "Fortune". Peter Harrington London. Retrieved 10 August 2014.
9. ^ Background
10. ^ RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA (23 October 2009). "Fortune Magazine Will Drop From 25 to 18 Issues a Year". New York Times.
11. ^ Pérez-Peña, Richard (October 23, 2009). "Fortune media kit". The New York Times.
13. ^ Primack, Dan. "Time Inc. becomes America's oldest startup". Retrieved 30 July 2014.
14. ^ Barnett, Megan; Serwer, Andy. "Inside the all-new". Retrieved 30 July 2014.
16. ^ Kile, Daniel. "Alan Murray Named Editor of Fortune". Retrieved 30 August 2014.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64981 | GNU Core Utilities
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GNU Core Utilities
Developer(s) GNU Project
Stable release 8.23 (July 18, 2014; 10 months ago (2014-07-18)) [±][1]
Written in C
Operating system Unix-like
Type Miscellaneous utilities
License GNU GPL v3
The GNU Core Utilities or coreutils is a package of GNU software containing many of the basic tools, such as cat, ls, and rm, needed for Unix-like operating systems. It is a combination of a number of earlier packages, including textutils, shellutils, and fileutils, along with some other miscellaneous utilities.
GNU coreutils capabilities[edit]
Programs included in coreutils[edit]
The list spans the programs from coreutils 8.23.
File utilities
chcon Changes file security context (SELinux)
chgrp Changes file group ownership
chown Changes file ownership
chmod Changes the permissions of a file or directory
cp Copies a file or directory
dd Copies and converts a file
df Shows disk free space on file systems
dir Is exactly like "ls -C -b". (Files are by default listed in columns and sorted vertically.)
dircolors Set up color for ls
install Copies files and set attributes
ln Creates a link to a file
ls Lists the files in a directory
mkdir Creates a directory
mkfifo Makes named pipes (FIFOs)
mknod Makes block or character special files
mktemp Creates a temporary file or directory
mv Moves files or rename files
realpath Returns the resolved absolute or relative path for a file
rm Removes (deletes) files
rmdir Removes empty directories
shred Overwrites a file to hide its contents, and optionally deletes it
sync Flushes file system buffers
touch Changes file timestamps
truncate Shrink or extend the size of a file to the specified size
vdir Is exactly like "ls -l -b". (Files are by default listed in long format.)
Text utilities
base64 base64 encode/decode data and print to standard output
cat Concatenates and prints files on the standard output
cksum Checksums and count the bytes in a file
comm Compares two sorted files line by line
csplit Splits a file into sections determined by context lines
cut Removes sections from each line of files
expand Converts tabs to spaces
fmt Simple optimal text formatter
fold Wraps each input line to fit in specified width
head Outputs the first part of files
join Joins lines of two files on a common field
md5sum Computes and checks MD5 message digest
nl Numbers lines of files
numfmt Reformat numbers
od Dumps files in octal and other formats
paste Merges lines of files
ptx Produces a permuted index of file contents
pr Converts text files for printing
Computes and checks SHA-1, SHA-224/256/384/512 message digest
shuf generate random permutations
sort sort lines of text files
split Splits a file into pieces
sum Checksums and counts the blocks in a file
tac Concatenates and prints files in reverse
tail Outputs the last part of files
tr Translates or deletes characters
tsort Performs a topological sort
unexpand Converts spaces to tabs
uniq Removes duplicate lines from a sorted file
wc Prints the number of bytes, words, and lines in files
Shell utilities
arch Prints machine hardware name (same as uname -m)
basename Removes the path prefix from a given pathname
chroot Changes the root directory
date Prints/sets the system date and time
dirname Strips non-directory suffix from file name
du Shows disk usage on file systems
echo Displays a specified line of text
env Displays and modifies environment variables
expr Evaluates expressions
factor Factors numbers
false Does nothing, but exits unsuccessfully
groups Prints the groups of which the user is a member
hostid Prints the numeric identifier for the current host
id Prints real/effective UID and GID
link Creates a link to a file
logname Print the user's login name
nice Modifies scheduling priority
nohup Allows a command to continue running after logging out
nproc Queries the number of (active) processors
pathchk Checks whether file names are valid or portable
pinky A lightweight version of finger
printenv Prints environment variables
printf Formats and prints data
pwd Prints the current working directory
readlink Displays value of a symbolic link
runcon Run command with specified security context
seq Prints a sequence of numbers
sleep Delays for a specified amount of time
stat Returns data about an inode
stdbuf Controls buffering for commands that use stdio
stty Changes and prints terminal line settings
tee Sends output to multiple files
test Evaluates an expression
timeout Run a command with a time limit
true Does nothing, but exits successfully
tty Prints terminal name
uname Prints system information
unlink Removes the specified file using the unlink function
uptime Tells how long the system has been running
users Prints the user names of users currently logged into the current host
who Prints a list of all users currently logged in
whoami Prints the effective userid
yes Prints a string repeatedly
Other Utilities
[ A synonym for test; this program permits expressions like [ expression ].
System utilities
See also[edit]
1. ^ Brady, Pádraig (2014-07-18). "[coreutils-announce] coreutils-8.23 released [stable]". coreutils-announce (Mailing list). Retrieved 2014-07-20.
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global_05_local_5_shard_00000035_processed.jsonl/64982 | John Barrymore
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This article is about John Barrymore, Sr. For his son John Barrymore, Jr., see John Drew Barrymore.
John Barrymore
Barrymore in 1920
Born John Sidney Blyth
February 14 or 15, 1882
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, U.S.
Los Angeles, California, U.S.
Spouse(s) Katherine Corri Harris (m. 1910; div. 1917)
Blanche Oelrichs (m. 1920; div. 1928)
Dolores Costello (m. 1928; div. 1934)
Elaine Barrie (m. 1936; div. 1940)
John Barrymore (born John Sidney Blyth; February 14 or 15, 1882 – May 29, 1942)[a] was an American actor on stage, screen and radio. A member of the Drew and Barrymore theatrical dynasties, he initially tried to avoid the stage, and briefly attempted a career as an artist, but appeared on stage together with his father Maurice in 1900, and then his sister Ethel the following year. He began his career in 1903 and first gained attention as a stage actor in light comedy, then high drama, culminating in productions of Justice (1916), Richard III (1920) and Hamlet (1922); his portrayal of Hamlet led to him being called the "greatest living American tragedian".[1]
Early life: 1882–1903[edit]
Maurice and Georgiana, Barrymore's parents
Barrymore was born John Sidney Blyth in Philadelphia, and was known by family and friends as Jack.[5][6] Although the Barrymore family bible puts his date of birth as February 15, 1882, his birth certificate shows February 14.[7] He was the youngest of three children. His siblings were Lionel (b. April 1878), and Ethel (b. August 1879).[5] His father was Maurice Barrymore, an Indian-born British actor. He had been born Herbert Blyth, and had adopted Barrymore as a stage name after seeing it on a poster in the Haymarket Theatre in London.[8][9] Barrymore's mother, Georgie Drew Barrymore, was born into a prominent theatrical family. Barrymore's maternal grandparents were Louisa Lane Drew, a well-known 19th-century American actress and the manager of the Arch Street Theatre, and John, also an actor whose specialty was comedy.[b] Barrymore's maternal uncles were two more thespians, John Drew, Jr. and Sidney.[10]
Much of Barrymore's early life was unsettled. In October 1882, the family toured in the US for a season with Polish actress Helena Modjeska. The following year his parents toured again with Modjeska but left the children behind.[11] Modjeska was influential in the family, and she insisted that all three children be baptized into the Catholic Church.[12] In 1884 the family traveled to London as part of Augustin Daly's theatrical company, returning to the US two years later.[13] As a child, Barrymore was sometimes badly behaved, and he was sent away to schools in an attempt to instill discipline. The strategy was not always successful, and he attended elementary schools in four states.[14] He was sent first to the boys' annex of the Convent of Notre Dame in Philadelphia. One punishment that he received there was being made to read a copy of Dante's Inferno; he later recounted that, as he looked at the illustrations by Gustave Doré, "my interest was aroused, and a new urge was born within me. I wanted to be an artist".[15][16] He was expelled from the school in 1891 and was sent to Seton Hall Preparatory School in New Jersey, where Lionel was already studying.[15] Barrymore was unhappy at Seton and was soon withdrawn, after which he attended several public schools in New York, including the Mount Pleasant Military Academy.[14][17]
In 1892, his grandmother Louisa Drew's business began to suffer, and she lost control of her theater, causing disruption in the family. The following year, when Barrymore was 11 years old, his mother died from tuberculosis; her consistent touring and his absence at school meant that he barely knew her, and he was mostly raised by his grandmother.[14] The loss of their mother's income prompted both Ethel and Lionel to seek work as professional actors.[18] Barrymore's father was mostly absent from the family home while on tour, and when he returned he would spend time at The Lambs, a New York actors' club.[14]
In 1895, Barrymore entered Georgetown Preparatory School, then located on Georgetown University Campus, but he was expelled in November 1897, probably after being caught waiting in a brothel.[19] One of his biographers, Michael A. Morrison, posits the alternate theory that Barrymore was expelled after the staff saw him inebriated.[20] By the time he left Georgetown he was, according to Martin Norden in his biography of Barrymore, "already in the early stages of a chronic drinking problem".[14][c] 1897 was an emotionally challenging year for Barrymore: he lost his virginity when he was seduced by his step-mother, Mamie Floyd,[21][22][d] and in August his grandmother, the main female role model in his life, died.[23]
Ethel Barrymore, as a beautiful young woman, in a three-quarter length portrait, seated, facing front, wearing an elaborate gown and holding a bouquet of roses
An incident in 1901 had a major impact on Barrymore. In March, his father had a mental breakdown as a result of tertiary syphilis, and Barrymore took him to Bellevue hospital.[28][29] He was later transferred to a private institution in Amityville, Long Island, where he suffered a "rapid descent into madness".[30][e] The Encyclopedia of World Biography states that Barrymore was constantly "haunted by the bright and dark spell of his father",[31] and his close friend Gene Fowler reported that "the bleak overtone of this breaking of his parent's reason never quite died away in Barrymore's mind, and he was haunted by fears he would suffer the same fate".[32] The same year, Barrymore began an affair with a beautiful artists' model, "Florodora girl" and aspiring actress named Evelyn Nesbit, who was a mistress of architect Stanford White.[33] Barrymore later described Nesbit as "the most maddening woman. ... She was the first woman I ever loved", and he proposed marriage to her. Nesbit's mother did not think that, as a struggling artist, Barrymore was a good match for her daughter. To break off their relationship her mother sent Nesbit away to school in New Jersey.[34] In 1906, White was shot in public by Nesbit's then-husband, Pittsburgh millionaire Harry K. Thaw. Barrymore expected to testify at Thaw's murder trial on the issue of Nesbit's morality; he worried that he might be asked whether he had arranged for Nesbit to have an abortion, disguised as an appendectomy, even though Nesbit had undergone two previous "appendectomies". Barrymore was never called as a witness because Thaw pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity.[35]
In May 1902, Barrymore was fired from his newspaper position after producing a poor illustration for the paper while hung over. He spent time as a poster designer but realized it was not lucrative enough for his lifestyle, which was being partly financed by Ethel, who was also paying for their father's care.[36][37] While discussing his future with his brother, Barrymore said "it looks as though I'll have to succumb to the family curse, acting",[36] and he later admitted that "there isn't any romance about how I went on stage. ... I needed the money."[38]
Early stage career: 1903–13[edit]
Bust-length images of the three Barrymores sitting together at a table. Barrymore has a moustache, as he does in most photos.
Barrymore began to contact his family's theatrical connections to find work and approached Charles Frohman, who had been the producer of Captain Jinks and had also been an employer of Barrymore's mother Georgie a decade earlier. Frohman thought that Barrymore had comedic potential but needed more experience before making a Broadway debut.[36] Barrymore joined the company of McKee Rankin, Sidney Drew's father-in-law, on the Chicago leg of their tour, at the W. S. Cleveland Theatre in October 1903. He first played the minor role of Lt. Max von Wendlowski in Magda,[39] and in November when the troupe produced Leah the Forsaken, he took the small part of Max, a village idiot with one spoken line.[40]
A year later Barrymore appeared in his first Broadway production, in a small role in the comedy Glad of It, which only had a short run. Afterwards he played the role of Charles Hyne in the farce The Dictator at the Criterion Theatre, which starred William Collier.[41][42] During the play's run and subsequent tour across the US, Collier became a mentor to the young actor, although his patience was continually tested by Barrymore's drinking, which led to occasional missed performances, drunken stage appearances, and general misbehavior.[43][44] Collier taught Barrymore much about acting, including coaching him in comic timing, but "at times regretted his sponsorship" of his apprentice.[45] In March 1905, while The Dictator was playing in Buffalo, Barrymore's father died in Amityville and was buried at Glenwood Cemetery in Philadelphia.[46][47] At the close of the US tour, The Dictator visited Britain from April 1905, where it played at the Comedy Theatre. The critic for The Observer wrote that Barrymore "admirably seconded" Collier.[48][49]
Barrymore and Katherine Corri Harris sitting on a park bench, both wearing jaunty hats and looking at the camera
In mid-1910 Barrymore met socialite Katherine Corri Harris, and the couple married in September that year. Harris' father objected to the relationship and refused to attend the wedding.[57] Shortly after the ceremony, The Dictator went on tour, and Harris was given a small role in the play. According to Peters, Barrymore "began to think of his marriage as a 'bus accident'".[58][59] Film critic Hollis Alpert wrote that, within a week of the wedding, Katherine was complaining that she saw her new husband too infrequently.[60] Barrymore's increasing dependence on alcohol was also a cause of marital problems, and he explained that "unhappiness increased the drink, and drink increased the unhappiness".[61]
Pen and ink sketch showing slim, art-deco style figures of John and Ethel Barrymore
Barrymore's next two plays – Uncle Sam and Princess Zim-Zim, both from 1911 – were critically and commercially weak, but the second work introduced him to playwright Edward Sheldon, who would "reshape ... [Barrymore's] entire career".[62] In January 1912, Barrymore appeared together with his sister in A Slice of Life at the Empire Theatre on Broadway, which ran for 48 performances. Charles Darnton, a critic for The Evening World, observed that "Barrymore takes delight in 'kidding' his part not only to the limit, but perhaps beyond".[63] A review in The Washington Times stated that "Barrymore inimitably imitates his uncle John Drew".[64]
In July 1912, Barrymore went to Los Angeles, where he appeared in three short-running plays at the Belasco Theatre.[i] He returned to New York in October, where he took the lead role in 72 performances of the comedy The Affairs of Anatol at the Little Theatre. Although the critical response was lukewarm,[68] Barrymore's salary for the play was $600 a week.[69][j] He began the following year by appearing in a short run of A Thief for a Night in McVicker's Theatre, Chicago, before returning to New York, and the Thirty-Ninth St. Theatre, for a two-month run in Believe Me Xantippe.[70]
Entry into motion pictures, and theatrical triumphs: 1913–24[edit]
Barrymore sitting at a desk in profile, looking at a picture of George Washington
In late 1913, Barrymore made his first confirmed feature film, the romantic comedy An American Citizen, with Adolph Zukor's Famous Players Film Company. When the film was released in January 1914, Barrymore "delighted movie audiences with an inimitable light touch that made a conventional romance 'joyous'," writes Peters.[67] A reviewer for The Oregon Daily Journal thought that Barrymore gave a "portrayal of unusual quality".[71] The success of the picture led to further film work, including The Man from Mexico (1914), Are You a Mason?, The Dictator and The Incorrigible Dukane (all 1915). Except for The Incorrigible Dukane, all of these early films are presumed lost.[66][72]
Barrymore spent the second half of 1915 making three films, including The Red Widow, which he called "the worst film I ever made" in his 1926 autobiography.[75][k] In April 1916, he starred in John Galsworthy's prison drama Justice, again at the instigation of Sheldon.[26][76] The play was a critical success, and The New York Times thought the audience saw "Barrymore play as he had never played before, and so, by his work as the wretched prisoner in Justice, step forward into a new position on the American stage." The critic went on to say that Barrymore gave "an extraordinary performance in every detail of appearance and manner, in every note of deep feeling ... a superb performance."[77]
Upper body portrait of Blanche Oelrichs, sitting side on, turning her face to the camera
Blanche Oelrichs, Barrymore's second wife, who published poetry under the name Michael Strange
From early 1916, Barrymore had been living apart from Katherine, and she sued for divorce in November 1916.[78][l] By the time the divorce was finalized in December 1917, he had taken the lead role in the film Raffles, the Amateur Cracksman.[79] He had also tried to enlist in the U.S. Army following the country's entry into World War I, but Army doctors revealed that he had varicose veins, and he was not accepted for military service.[80] For over a year beginning in April 1917, he appeared together with Lionel in a stage version of George du Maurier's 1891 novel Peter Ibbetson. The play and the two Barrymores were warmly regarded by the critics.[81] Around this time, Barrymore began a relationship with a married mother of two, Blanche Oelrichs, a suffragist from an elite Rhode Island family with what Peters calls "anarchistic self-confidence".[82] Oelrichs also published poetry under the name Michael Strange. While their relationship began in secret, it became more open after Oelrichs' husband was commissioned into the army and then posted to France.[83]
Both Oelrichs and Sheldon urged Barrymore to take on his next role, Fedya Vasilyevich Protasov, in Leo Tolstoy's play Redemption at the Plymouth Theatre.[84][85] The critic for The New York Times felt that, although Barrymore's performance was "marred by vocal monotony", overall the performance was "a distinct step forward in Mr. Barrymore's artistic development ... There is probably not another actor on our stage who has a temperament so fine and spiritual, an art so flexible and sure."[86] In 1918, Barrymore starred in the romantic comedy film On the Quiet; the Iowa City Press-Citizen considered the film superior to the original Broadway performance.[87]
In 1919, Barrymore portrayed a struggling lawyer in the film adaptation of the Broadway show Here Comes the Bride, which he followed with The Test of Honor. The latter film marked his first straight dramatic role on screen after years of performing in comedy dramas.[88] Later that year, when Barrymore again appeared on stage with Lionel in Sem Benelli's historical drama The Jest, audience members "agree[d] that the American stage had never witnessed finer acting", according to Peters.[89] Alexander Woollcott, writing in The New York Times, thought that "John and Lionel Barrymore hold spellbound each breathless audience",[90] and he commented that Barrymore "contributes to that appeal by every step, every hand, every posture of a body grown unexpectedly eloquent in recent years".[90] In November, Barrymore began filming Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, playing the dual leading role, and the film was released in theaters the following year.[91] Wid's Daily thought that "it is the star's picture from the very outset, and it is the star that makes it", going on to say that Barrymore's portrayal was "a thing of fine shadows and violent emotions".[92] The Washington Post was in agreement, and considered the performance to be "a masterpiece", and "a remarkable piece of work".[93] The film was so successful that the US Navy used stills of Barrymore in its recruiting posters.[94]
Violet Kemble-Cooper and John Barrymore half-sitting, half-lying in an eager embrace on a couch, about to kiss
In 1921, Barrymore portrayed a wealthy Frenchman in New York in the film The Lotus Eater, with Colleen Moore.[102] In September, Barrymore and Oelrichs went to Europe on holiday; cracks were appearing in their relationship, and she fell in love with a poet during their extended stay in Venice. In October, Oelrichs returned to New York and Barrymore traveled to London to film the exterior scenes for his latest movie, Sherlock Holmes, in which he played the title role. He then returned to New York to work on the film's interior scenes in January 1922.[103] Barrymore became involved in the pre-production work for the film and provided designs for Moriarty's lair. The film was released later that year[104] and was generally thought "a little dull and ponderous, with too many intertitles",[105] although James W. Dean of The Evening News of Harrisburg opined that "the personality of Barrymore is the film's transcendent quality".[106]
Barrymore, cleanshaven, in an all-black costume as a brooding Hamlet, sitting on a chair, looking slightly to his right of the camera
Barrymore as Hamlet (1922)
Barrymore decided next to star in Hamlet on stage, with Arthur Hopkins directing. They spent six months preparing, cutting over 1,250 lines from the text as they did so, and Barrymore opted to play Hamlet as "a man's man", according to Norden. Barrymore later described his Hamlet as a "normal, healthy, lusty young fellow who simply got into a mess that was too thick for him ... he was a great fencer, an athlete, a man who led an active, healthy life. How can you make a sickly half-wit out of a man like that?"[107] Barrymore again used Carrington as a vocal coach; rehearsals started in October, and the play opened on November 16.[108] The production was a box-office success, and the critics were lavish in their praise. Woollcott, writing for the New York Herald, opined that it was "an evening that will be memorable in the history of the American theater".[109] while John Corbin, the drama critic for The New York Times, agreed, writing that "in all likelihood we have a new and a lasting Hamlet".[110] The reviewer for Brooklyn Life stated that Barrymore had "doubtless won the right to be called the greatest living American tragedian".[1] In 1963, Orson Welles said that Barrymore was the best Hamlet he had seen, describing the character as "not so much princely – he was a man of genius who happened to be a prince, and he was tender, and virile, and witty, and dangerous".[111]
Barrymore and Hopkins decided to end the run at 101 performances, just breaking the record of one hundred by Edwin Booth, before the play closed in February 1923.[112][n] In November and December that year, a three-week run of the play was staged at the Manhattan Opera House, followed by a brief tour that closed at the end of January 1924.[113]
Films with the major studios: 1924–32[edit]
News of Barrymore's success in Hamlet piqued the interest of Warner Bros., which signed him as the lead in the 1924 film Beau Brummel.[107] Unhappy in his marriage, Barrymore – aged 40 at the time – sought solace elsewhere and had an affair with his 17-year-old co-star Mary Astor during filming.[114] Although the film was not an unqualified success,[115] the cast, including Barrymore, was generally praised.[116][117] Around this time, Barrymore acquired the nickname "the Great Profile", as posters and photographs of him tended to favor the left-hand side. He later said: "The right side of my face looks like a fried egg. The left side has features that are to be found in almost any normal anthropological specimen, and those are the apples I try to keep on top of the barrel."[118]
Barrymore, cleanshaven, standing in costume as Captain Ahab, including a false right peg-leg, holding onto ship's rigging
At the end of this run of Hamlet, Barrymore traveled to Paris, where Oelrichs had stayed during his residence in London, but the reunion was not a happy one and the couple argued frequently. When he returned to America, she remained in Paris,[123] and the couple drew up a separation agreement that provided Oelrichs with $18,000 a year and stated that neither could sue for divorce on the grounds of adultery.[124] While he had been in London, Warner Bros and Barrymore entered into a contact for three further films at a salary of $76,250 per picture.[125][o] He later claimed that his motivation for moving from stage to films was the "lack of repetition—the continual playing of a part, which is so ruinous to an actor, is entirely eliminated".[126]
Portrait bust of a young Dolores Costello, facing the camera, looking stylish and slightly unhappy or bored
As filming finished on The Sea Beast, work began on Don Juan, the first feature-length film with synchronized Vitaphone sound effects and a musical soundtrack.[130][131] Although Barrymore wanted to play opposite Costello again, Jack Warner, the film's producer, signed Astor.[130] After completing his Warner Bros. contract with When a Man Loves, with Costello, Barrymore joined United Artists (UA) under a three-film deal. For the next three years, according to Morrison, he "enjoyed unprecedented prosperity and spent lavishly".[132][p] Nevertheless, he received some harsh reviews. Critic and essayist Stark Young wrote in The New Republic that Barrymore's films were "rotten, vulgar, empty, in bad taste, dishonest, noisome with a silly and unwholesome exhibitionism, and odious with a kind of stale and degenerate studio adolescence. Their appeal is cheap, cynical and specious".[133]
In 1927, Barrymore planned to revive Hamlet at the Hollywood Bowl, but in August he canceled the production, without explanation, and began filming the third of the UA pictures, Eternal Love, for which he was paid $150,000.[134][q] In February 1928, Barrymore obtained a quiet divorce from Oelrichs; she eagerly agreed to the separation, as she was in a relationship with a lawyer, Harrison Tweed, whom she later married. Barrymore and Costello married in November that year; their daughter, Dolores, was born in April 1930 and a son, John Drew Barrymore, followed in June 1932.[135][136] Barrymore purchased and converted an estate in the Hollywood Hills into 16 different buildings with 55 rooms, gardens, skeet ranges, swimming pools, fountains and a totem pole.[137]
Barrymore, made up as Svengali, with a beard, staring intently at Marian Marsh, seated with her eyes closed peacefully, whose shoulders are being held defensively by Bramwell Fletcher, who looks concerned
Years of transition: 1932–36[edit]
Barrymore's first film for MGM was the 1933 mystery Arsène Lupin, in which he co-starred with his brother Lionel. In The New York Times, Hall called Barrymore's performance "admirable" and wrote that "it is a pleasure to see [him] again in something in a lighter vein."[144] The same year, Barrymore starred as jewel thief Baron Felix von Geigern together with Greta Garbo in the 1932 film Grand Hotel, in which Lionel also appeared. Critical opinion of Barrymore's acting was divided; John Gilbert's biographer Eve Golden refers to Barrymore as seeming "more like ... [Garbo's] affectionate father than her lover",[145] while George Blaisdell of International Photographer praised the dialogue and wrote that a viewer would be "deeply impressed with the rarity in screen drama on which he is looking."[146] Grand Hotel won the Academy Award for Best Picture and was one of the highest-grossing films of the year.[147] It was later added to the National Film Registry.[148]
Greta Garbo and Barrymore standing, in a close embace, about to kiss
Barrymore with Greta Garbo in Grand Hotel (1932)
In 1932, Barrymore appeared in three films. For RKO Pictures he played a borderline-alcoholic lawyer in State's Attorney, before he returned to MGM to play an escaped lunatic in A Bill of Divorcement, opposite Katharine Hepburn in her screen debut. Film scholar Daniel Bernardi later noted the humanism demonstrated between Barrymore's character and his family, particularly the "close bond" between father and daughter.[149] In his final film of the year, Rasputin and the Empress, Barrymore, Ethel and Lionel co-starred.[150] Physically, Barrymore had deteriorated since filming Svengali, and he had gained weight because of his drinking. Peters notes the "dissipation of the once ascetic face, a dissipation only underlined by the studio's attempt to reconstruct with lights, filters and make-up a spiritual beauty that had been corrupted." The film was a critical and commercial failure, and MGM lost significant amounts of money. The New Yorker thought the three Barrymores had produced their worst work.[151]
The year 1933 was a busy one for Barrymore, and his decline began to be evident. He appeared in five films during the year, including as a meek schoolteacher-turned-businessman in Topaze, opposite Myrna Loy, and Dinner at Eight, with Lionel.[152][153] Peters opines that Barrymore's portrayal of a washed-up alcoholic actor "could well have fixed ... in the public's and MGM's mind that John Barrymore was a drunken has-been."[154] After the run of films with MGM, the company ended its contact with Barrymore amid its financial woes caused by the Great Depression. He then signed with Universal Studios to portray a troubled Jewish lawyer in Counsellor at Law. During filming he struggled to remember his lines for even small scenes. Filming was stopped on one occasion after more than 25 takes when he struggled to recall the right lines; it was a problem with which he began to suffer regularly.[155] Despite the problems, Norden believes that this was "one of his best film performances".[152][s]
Color lobby card of Barrymore facing Carole Lombard and holding her roughly by the arms, as if scolding her (the other photos are black and white)
In December 1933, Barrymore agreed with RKO to film Hamlet. He underwent screen tests and hired Carrington to act as vocal coach again, but during one session, his memory failed him again, and the project was eventually scrapped.[156] Barrymore starred in two films released in 1934, the drama Long Lost Father and the screwball comedy Twentieth Century. In the latter film, Barrymore played madcap Broadway impresario Oscar Jaffe, a role in which he demonstrated a "rare genius as a comedian". Morrison writes that the portrayal was one "that many consider to be his finest contribution to film".[136] In 2011, the picture was added to the National Film Registry, where it was described as Barrymore's "last great film role".[157]
Decline and death: 1936–42[edit]
Group shot of six in Renaissance costume; the three central figures hold swords together, Three Musketeers-style
Word about Barrymore's problems on and off the set spread around the industry, and he did not work on another film for over a year, when he had a supporting role in the musical film Maytime. His divorce from Costello was finalized in October 1936, and he married Barrie in November the same year. The couple had a heated argument in public shortly afterwards, and he again spent time in Kelley's Rest Home and hospital, which cost him an average of $800 daily, draining his finances.[137] When he came out, he collapsed on the Maytime set. On January 15, 1937, he was served with divorce papers, and a month later he filed for bankruptcy protection, with debts of $160,000.[169][170][t] The divorce was granted in April, but the couple reconciled before it was finalized.[171]
Barrymore decided to work on more Shakespeare roles. In June 1937, he signed up with NBC Radio to produce a series of six episodes under the name Streamlined Shakespeare, which also featured Barrie. The first program was Hamlet, which was well received by critics. The New York Times commented that "Shakespeare's lines uttered dramatically by the voice of John Barrymore sweep through the 'ether' with a sound of finality; it seems that they are his words and no one else could speak them with such lifelike force".[172][173] Peters disagrees however, and considers that "because he was desperate he pressed too hard and ended by caricaturing, not capturing, his great Shakespearean acting".[174][u]
Publicity shot of a noticeably older, heavier Barrymore, wearing a fur coat; side on, facing slightly to his left
Fred MacMurray, Carole Lombard and Barrymore making funny faces behind prison bars; MacMurray and Lombard fiercely show their teeth, while Barrymore crosses his eyes goofily
(l to r), Fred MacMurray, Carole Lombard and Barrymore in True Confession, (1937)
Barrymore and his wife both appeared in supporting roles in the 1939 screwball comedy Midnight, her only film role. The New York Times thought the film was "one of the liveliest, gayest, wittiest and naughtiest comedies of a long hard season" and that Barrymore, "the [Lou] Gehrig of eye-brow batting, rolls his phrases with his usual richly humorous effect".[177] The film was inducted into the National Film Registry in 2013.[178] Barrymore and his wife appeared together in the stage farce My Dear Children, which opened in March 1939 at Princeton University's McCarter Theatre. He played the lead role, Allan Manville, an ageing hammy Shakespearean has-been.[26][179] Because of his failing memory, Barrymore ad-libbed constantly throughout the show. In some points the new additions were an improvement, but he also greeted friends in the audience, and used profanities freely.[180] Nevertheless, the show was a success. Life magazine wrote that "People flock to see [Barrymore], not for polished performance, but because he converts the theater into a rowdy histrionic madhouse. Sometimes he arrives late. Sometimes he is tight. Usually he forgets his lines. But he always puts on a great show."[181] When the show reached Broadway, Life wrote that "Barrymore's return to Times Square was a huge professional triumph".[182] Brooks Atkinson, writing for The New York Times thought that Barrymore was "still the most gifted actor in this country. ... Although he has recklessly played the fool for a number of years, he is nobody's fool in My Dear Children but a superbly gifted actor on a tired holiday."[183] Barrymore and his wife continued to argue during the play's run, and she left the play part way through the tour. They attempted a reconciliation when the production reached New York, but the couple divorced in late 1940.[182][26]
In October 1940, Barrymore returned to the NBC Radio network to work on Rudy Vallée's show, now called the Sealtest Show. Barrymore recorded 74 episodes of the program, continuing in the vein of self-parody, with jokes about his drinking, declining career and marital issues. On May 19, 1942, while recording a line from Romeo and Juliet for the show, Barrymore collapsed. He was taken to the Hollywood Presbyterian Hospital and died there on May 29, from cirrhosis of the liver and kidney failure, complicated by pneumonia.[185][186] Shortly before his death, Barrymore returned to the faith of the Catholic Church.[187] Although Errol Flynn's memoirs claim that the film director Raoul Walsh "borrowed" Barrymore's body before burial to leave his corpse propped in a chair for a drunken Flynn to discover when he returned home,[188] Gene Fowler, a close friend of Barrymore, stayed with the body all night and denies the story. Barrymore was buried at Calvary Cemetery in Los Angeles on June 2.[189] In 1980, Barrymore's son had his father's body reinterred at Philadelphia's Mount Vernon Cemetery.[190]
Picture of Barrymore outside, from the waist up, pensively smoking a cigarette and facing to the left
The New York Times obituary stated that during the period when Barrymore's performed in Justice, Richard III and Hamlet, the actor "was accepted by most critics as the foremost English-speaking actor of his time ... equipped both by nature and by art."[191] The Washington Post agreed, noting that during his stage triumphs and early years in film, "he was the great profile, the darling of the 'royal family' of the stage."[2] Many of the obituaries made the point that Barrymore fell short of his potential. The Manchester Guardian thought that he "might with some self-discipline have added his name to the list of truly great actors ... yet he dissipated his energies".[119] The New York Times noted that he could twist his abilities "to parody, burlesque himself and play the clown", and they considered that it was "unfortunate that the public in recent years saw him in ... [that] mood. It was a mood of careless abdication".[191] The Washington Post observed that "with the passing of the years – and as his private life became more public – he became, despite his genius in the theater, a tabloid character."[2]
According to Morrison, Barrymore's stage portrayals of Richard III and Hamlet were a model for modern performances of these roles. His interpretation along psychological lines was innovative, and his "dynamic portrayals ... changed the direction of subsequent revivals."[192] Barrymore's natural acting style reversed the stage conventions of the time;[193] his "'colloquial' verse speaking introduced to the stage the vocal manner of a postwar gentleman."[194]
Pencil sketch of Barrymore's head, face on to the artist
Barrymore, drawn by John Singer Sargent, 1923
Barrymore was honored on few occasions by the entertainment industry and its members. Although both his brother and sister won Academy Awards, the only award Barrymore ever received for his screen work was from Rudolph Valentino in 1925 for Beau Brummel. Valentino created an award in his own name and felt that his fellow actors should receive accolades for their screen work.[195] When Barrymore attended his ceremony at Grauman's Chinese Theatre in 1940, he left more than the customary hand and footprints in the theater's forecourt: aided by the owner, Sid Grauman, Barrymore left a cement imprint of his facial profile.[196] In February 1960, for his contribution to the motion picture industry, Barrymore was inducted into the Hollywood Walk of Fame, with a star at 6667 Hollywood Boulevard;[197] Barrymore, along with his two siblings, is included in the American Theater Hall of Fame.[198] The Barrymore "Royal Family" of actors continued through two of his children – his son with Costello, John Drew Barrymore and his daughter with Oelrichs, Diana – both of whom became actors, as did John Jr.'s daughter Drew.[199] Barrymore's brother Lionel died on November 15, 1954,[200] and their sister Ethel died on June 18, 1959.[201]
Barrymore's star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame
There were several celebratory events in 1982, on the centenary of Barrymore's birth. The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences and the Museum of Modern Art jointly hosted a commemorative program of his work, which included numerous excepts from his films and interviews with some who knew him, including Barrie and his one-time co-star Myrna Loy.[203] The same year, in celebration of the centenary of the Actors Fund of America, the US Postal Service issued a postage stamp featuring Barrymore and his siblings.[204] In February 2010, an intersection in Fort Lee, New Jersey, was renamed John Barrymore Way on what would have been the actor's 128th birthday. The intersection marked the spot of the former Buckheister's Hotel, where Barrymore had his 1900 stage debut in "A Man of the World".[205]
Portrayals and characterizations[edit]
A cleanshaven Barrymore, seen from behind, over his left shoulder, glaring to his left
"The Great Profile", photographed in the 1920s
Barrymore has been used as the inspiration for characters on stage and film. He performed as himself in a number of works (including The Great Profile, My Dear Children and Playmates), and in the Ziegfeld Follies of 1921 he was played by his friend W. C. Fields. In 1927 the Barrymore family was parodied in The Royal Family in which a character based on him was portrayed by Fredric March, whose performance Barrymore admired.[206] The play was staged in London in 1934 as Theatre Royal, with Laurence Olivier in the Barrymore role,[207] and adapted as a film in 1930, with March reprising his performance.[208]
In 1991, Paul Rudnick's comedy I Hate Hamlet, performed at the Walter Kerr Theatre, was set in Barrymore's former apartment. He returns after a séance, dressed in his Hamlet costume. Nicol Williamson played the Barrymore role.[209] Three years later, a London production, Jack: A Night on the Town with John Barrymore, ran for 60 performances at the Criterion Theatre, and Williamson again played the lead.[210] Barrymore, a two-person play by William Luce, premiered in 1996 and depicts Barrymore shortly before his death in 1942 as he is rehearsing a revival of his Richard III. Christopher Plummer played the title role.[211] A film version was released in 2012, with Plummer again taking the main role.[212]
Notes and references[edit]
1. ^ Although the Barrymore family bible gives the date as February 15, the birth certificate states February 14.[5][41]
2. ^ John Drew died in 1862 when Barrymore's mother was 6.[215]
3. ^ A 1934 doctor's report stated: "Since the age of 14 has been more or less a chronic drunkard."[21][216]
5. ^ Maurice remained institutionalized until his death in March 1905; his children were regular visitors.[218]
10. ^ $600 in 1912 is approximately equal to $14,500 in 2014.[221]
11. ^ The other two were Nearly a King and The Lost Bridegroom.[222]
15. ^ $76,250 in 1925 equates to a little over $1 million in 2014.[225] He was also given a suite at the Ambassador Hotel, Los Angeles, including all meals, and a chauffeured limousine.[125]
17. ^ $150,000 in 1927 was worth a little over $2 million in 2014.[225]
18. ^ The Man from Blankley's is a lost film.[226]
1. ^ a b "Plays Reviewed". Brooklyn Life (New York, NY). November 25, 1922. p. 14.
2. ^ a b c "Barrymore Dies at 60". The Washington Post (Washington, DC). May 30, 1942. p. 12.
3. ^ McCaffrey & Jacobs 1999, p. 32.
4. ^ Norden 2000a, p. 178.
5. ^ a b c Peters 1990, p. 9.
6. ^ Kobler 1977, p. 25.
7. ^ Norden 1995, p. 1.
8. ^ Peters 1990, p. 10.
9. ^ Fowler 1944, p. 14.
10. ^ Peters 1990, pp. 10–12.
11. ^ Morrison 1997, pp. 34–35.
12. ^ Kobler 1977, p. 31.
13. ^ Peters 1990, pp. 18–21.
14. ^ a b c d e Norden 1995, p. 2.
15. ^ a b Peters 1990, p. 29.
16. ^ Morrison 1997, p. 36.
17. ^ Morrison 1997, p. 37.
18. ^ Morrison 1997, pp. 36–37.
19. ^ Kobler 1977, p. 41.
20. ^ Morrison 1997, p. 38.
21. ^ a b Kobler 1977, p. 50.
22. ^ a b Norden 1995, p. 3.
23. ^ Peters 1990, p. 45.
24. ^ Peters 1990, p. 38.
25. ^ Kobler 1977, p. 70.
26. ^ a b c d e f Norden 2000a.
27. ^ Peters 1990, p. 77.
28. ^ Kobler 1977, pp. 67–68.
29. ^ "Barrymore is Insane". The Minneapolis Journal (Minneapolis, MN). March 30, 1901. p. 4.
30. ^ Morrison 1997, pp. 38–39.
31. ^ Byers 1998, p. 28.
32. ^ Fowler 1944, p. 104.
33. ^ Peters 1990, pp. 79–80.
34. ^ Kobler 1977, pp. 75–76.
35. ^ Kobler 1977, p. 90.
36. ^ a b c Norden 1995, p. 4.
37. ^ Morrison 1997, p. 39.
38. ^ Morrison 1997, p. 30.
39. ^ Morrison 1997, p. 40.
40. ^ Peters 1990, pp. 88–89.
41. ^ a b Kobler 1977, p. 26.
42. ^ Morrison 1997, pp. 40–41.
43. ^ Fowler 1944, pp. 114–15.
44. ^ Morrison 1997, p. 41.
45. ^ Alpert 1965, p. 126.
46. ^ Kotsilibas-Davis 2000.
47. ^ Kobler 1977, p. 85.
48. ^ a b Norden 1995, p. 5.
49. ^ "At the Play". The Observer (London). May 7, 1905. p. 6.
51. ^ a b Morrison 1997, p. 42.
52. ^ "Miss Barrymore Did Well". The Wichita Daily Eagle (Wichita, KS). May 5, 1907. p. 17.
53. ^ "Columbia—Jack Barrymore in The Boys of Company B". The Washington Post (Washington, DC). p. 13.
54. ^ Morrison 1997, pp. 43–44.
55. ^ Norden 1995, pp. 7–8.
56. ^ "Fortune Hunter Delightful Comedy". The New York Times (New York, NY). September 5, 1909. p. 9.
57. ^ Kobler 1977, pp. 97–98.
58. ^ Peters 1990, p. 127.
59. ^ Morrison 1997, p. 47.
60. ^ Alpert 1965, p. 136.
61. ^ Fowler 1944, p. 142.
62. ^ Kobler 1977, p. 100.
63. ^ Darnton, Charles (February 1, 1912). "The New Plays". The Evening World (New York, NY). p. 19.
64. ^ "Theater Notes". The Washington Times (Washington, DC). February 4, 1912. p. 11.
65. ^ Morrison 1997, pp. 51–52.
66. ^ a b Norden 1995, pp. 80–83.
67. ^ a b Peters 1990, p. 149.
68. ^ Morrison 1997, p. 50.
69. ^ Kobler 1977, p. 107.
70. ^ Norden 1995, p. 8.
71. ^ "Drew's Family Scion Shows His Heritage". The Oregon Daily Journal (Portland, OR). February 10, 1914. p. 8.
72. ^ Peters 1990, p. 154.
73. ^ Morrison 1997, pp. 50–51.
74. ^ "Good Melodrama at the Longacre". The New York Times (New York, NY). October 20, 1914. p. 13.
75. ^ Barrymore 1971, Chapter 1.
76. ^ Morrison 1997, pp. 52–53.
77. ^ "'Justice' Done Here with Superb Cast". The New York Times (New York, NY). April 4, 1916. p. 11.
78. ^ Kobler 1977, pp. 123–24.
79. ^ Power-Waters 1942, p. 183.
80. ^ Farwell 2000, p. 52.
81. ^ Morrison 1997, p. 56.
82. ^ Peters 1990, p. 163.
83. ^ Peters 1990, pp. 163–65.
84. ^ Morrison 1997, p. 59.
85. ^ Alpert 1965, p. 187.
86. ^ "John Barrymore in Tolstoy Tragedy". The New York Times (New York, NY). October 4, 1918. p. 11.
87. ^ "John Barrymore in "On the Quiet"". Iowa City Press-Citizen (Iowa City, IA). December 31, 1918. p. 6 – via open access publication - free to read
88. ^ "The Test of Honor". American Film Institute. Retrieved December 6, 2014.
89. ^ Peters 1990, p. 185.
90. ^ a b Woollcott, Alexander (September 28, 1919). "Second Thoughts on First Nights". The New York Times (New York, NY). p. 42.
91. ^ Morrison 1997, p. 74.
92. ^ "John Barrymore's Performance a Tremendous Drama in Itself Alone". Wid's Daily XII (4): 2. April 4, 1920.
93. ^ "'Beginning Today at 3'". The Washington Post (Washington, DC). May 2, 1920. p. 3.
94. ^ Norden 1995, p. 92.
95. ^ Morrison 1997, pp. 72–78.
96. ^ Dorsey, Earle (March 14, 1920). "St. Patrick and Some Others". Washington Herald (Washington, DC). p. 23.
97. ^ Woollcott, Alexander (March 8, 1920). "The Play". The New York Times (New York, NY). p. 7.
98. ^ Kobler 1977, pp. 158–59.
99. ^ a b Power-Waters 1942, p. 73.
100. ^ Morrison 1997, p. 124.
101. ^ Morrison 1997, pp. 124–25.
102. ^ "Reel Chatter". Iowa City Press-Citizen (Iowa City, IA). July 19, 1921. p. 33 – via open access publication - free to read
103. ^ Power-Waters 1942, pp. 77–78.
104. ^ Davies 2001, p. 18.
105. ^ Werner 2014, p. 224.
106. ^ Dean, James W. (May 11, 1922). "Screen Personality? What is it? See John Barrymore". The Evening News (Mechanicsburg, PA). p. 16 – via open access publication - free to read
107. ^ a b Norden 1995, p. 14.
108. ^ Morrison 1997, pp. 126, 134 & 142.
109. ^ Morrison 1997, p. 214.
111. ^ Orson Welles (October 27, 1963). Monitor. BBC Television.
112. ^ Morrison 1997, p. 232.
113. ^ Morrison 1997, p. 144.
114. ^ Peters 1990, p. 250.
115. ^ Peters 1990, p. 251.
116. ^ "New Rex Theater". The Sheboygan Press (Sheboygan, WI). September 26, 1924. p. 14 – via open access publication - free to read
117. ^ "Barrymore is Great in Beau Brummel". Corsicana Daily Sun (Corsicana, TX). August 5, 1924. p. 5 – via open access publication - free to read
118. ^ Kobler 1977, p. 259.
119. ^ a b "Obituary: John Barrymore". The Manchester Guardian (Manchester). June 1, 1942. p. 6.
120. ^ Peters 1990, p. 247.
121. ^ Croall 2000, p. 125.
122. ^ Gielgud 1979, p. 81.
123. ^ Peters 1990, pp. 248–49.
124. ^ Peters 1990, p. 265.
125. ^ a b Kobler 1977, p. 208.
126. ^ Power-Waters 1942, p. 99.
127. ^ Norden 1995, p. 97.
128. ^ Kobler 1977, pp. 219–22.
129. ^ Hall, Mordaunt (January 16, 1926). "The Sea Beast". The New York Times (New York, NY).
130. ^ a b c Norden 1995, p. 16.
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Parti Québécois
Leader Pierre Karl Péladeau
President Raymond Archambault
Founded 11 October 1968 (1968-10-11)
Merger of Mouvement Souveraineté-Association,
Ralliement national
Headquarters 1200 av. Papineau, Suite 150, Montreal, Quebec
Ideology Nationalism (Québécois)[1]
Sovereigntism (Québécois)
Social democracy (Québécois)[1][2][3][4]
Political position Centre-Left
Policies Fiscal: Centre-Left
Social: moderate liberal (left)
Official colours blue, green
Seats in the National Assembly
30 / 125
Politics of Quebec
Political parties
The Parti Québécois (French: Parti québécois[5], PQ; pronounced: [paʁ.ti]) is a sovereignist[6] provincial political party in Quebec in Canada. The PQ advocates national sovereignty for Quebec involving secession of the province of Quebec from Canada and establishing a sovereign state. The PQ has promoted the possibility of maintaining a loose political and economic sovereignty-association between Quebec and Canada. The party traditionally has support from the labour movement, but unlike most other social-democratic parties, its ties with the labour movement are informal.[7] Members and supporters of the PQ are called "péquistes" (Quebec French pronunciation: [pekɪst];[8]), a French word derived from the pronunciation of the party's initials.
Pierre Karl Péladeau was elected party leader on May 15, 2015.
The party is an observer member of COPPPAL.[9]
The PQ is the result of the 1968 merger between former Quebec Liberal Party cabinet minister René Lévesque's Mouvement Souveraineté-Association and the Ralliement national.[10] Following the creation of the PQ, the Rassemblement pour l'Indépendance Nationale held a general assembly that voted to dissolve the RIN. Its former members were invited to join the new Parti Québécois.
The PQ's primary goals were to obtain political, economic and social autonomy for the province of Quebec. Lévesque introduced the strategy of referenda early in the 1970s.[11]
Lévesque and the PQ's first government[edit]
In the 1976 provincial election, the Parti Québécois was elected for the first time to form the government of Quebec. The party's leader, René Lévesque, became the Premier of Quebec. This provided cause for celebration among many French-speaking Quebecers, while it resulted in an acceleration of the migration of the province's Anglophone population and related economic activity toward Toronto.
The first PQ government was known as the "republic of teachers" because of the large number of scholars who served as cabinet members. The PQ was the first government to recognize the rights of Aboriginal peoples to self-determination, insofar as this self-determination did not affect the territorial integrity of Quebec. The PQ passed laws on public consultations and the financing of political parties, which ensured equal financing of political parties and limited contributions by individuals to $3000. However, the most prominent legacy of the PQ is the Charter of the French Language (the Bill 101), a framework law which defines the linguistic primacy of French and seeks to make French the common public language of Quebec. It allowed the advancement of francophones towards management roles, until then largely out of their reach – despite the fact that 85% of the population spoke French and most of them did not understand English, the language of management was English in most medium and large businesses. Critics, both Francophone and Anglophone, have however criticized the charter for restraining citizens' linguistic school choice, as it forbids immigrants and Quebecers of French descent from attending English-language schools funded by the state (private schools have always been an option open to everybody). The Parti Québécois initiated the 1980 Quebec referendum seeking a mandate to begin negotiation for independence. It was rejected by 60 per cent of voters.
The party was re-elected in the 1981 election, but in November 1984 it experienced the most severe internal crisis of its existence. Lévesque wanted to focus on governing Quebec rather than sovereignty, and also wanted to adopt a more conciliatory approach on constitutional issues. This angered the more ardent sovereigntists, known as the purs et durs. Lévesque was forced to resign as a result. In September 1985, the party leadership election chose Pierre-Marc Johnson as his successor.
Despite its social-democratic past, the PQ failed to gain admission into the Socialist International, after the membership application was vetoed by the federal New Democratic Party.[12][13][14]
1985 defeat[edit]
The PQ led by Johnson was defeated by the Quebec Liberal Party in the 1985 election that saw Robert Bourassa return as premier. The Liberals served in office for two terms and attempted to negotiate a constitutional settlement with the rest of Canada but with the failure of the Charlottetown Accord and the Meech Lake Accord, two packages of proposed amendments to the Canadian constitution, the question of Quebec's status remained unresolved and the Quebec sovereignty movement revived.
Return to power under Parizeau[edit]
The PQ returned to power under the leadership of hardline separatist Jacques Parizeau in the 1994 Quebec election. This saw the PQ win 77 seats and 44% of the vote, on a promise to hold a separation referendum within a year.[15] The following year, Parizeau called the 1995 Quebec referendum proposing negotiations on sovereignty. After leading all night, the final count showed 49.6% of voters supported negotiations that could eventually lead to sovereignty. On the night of the defeat, an emotionally drained Premier Parizeau stated that the loss was caused by "money and the ethnic vote" (which led to accusations that the PQ was racist) as well as by the divided votes amongst francophones. Parizeau resigned the next day (as he is alleged to have planned beforehand in case of a defeat).
Bouchard government[edit]
Lucien Bouchard, a former member of Prime Minister Brian Mulroney's Cabinet and later founder of the Bloc Québécois, a federal-level sovereigntist party, succeeded Parizeau as PQ leader, but chose not to call another referendum due to the absence of "winning conditions". Bouchard's government then balanced the provincial budget – a feat achieved in Canada only by the federal government and a few of the ten Canadian provinces at that point – by reducing government spending, including social programs. The PQ was re-elected in the 1998 election, despite receiving fewer votes than the Quebec Liberal Party led by former federal deputy prime minister Jean Charest. Bouchard resigned in 2001, and was succeeded as PQ leader and Quebec Premier by Bernard Landry, a former PQ Finance minister. Under Landry's leadership, the party lost the 2003 election to Jean Charest's Liberals.
Return to opposition[edit]
Mid-late 2004 was difficult for Landry's leadership, which was being contested. A vote was held during the party's June 2005 convention to determine whether Landry continued to have the confidence of the party membership. Landry said he wanted at least 80% of approval and after gaining 76.2% approval on the confidence vote from party membership on 4 June 2005, Landry announced his intention to resign.[16]
Louise Harel had been chosen to replace him until a new leader, André Boisclair, was elected 15 November 2005, through the party's 2005 leadership election. At the time of Boisclair's election, the PQ was as much as 20 percent ahead of the Liberals in opinion polls, suggesting that Boisclair would lead them to a landslide majority government in the next election.[17]
Splintering on the right and the left[edit]
Progressives on the left wing of the PQ perceived a rightward move by the party towards neoliberalism under Bouchard, Landry and Boisclair. In 2006, a new left-wing party, Québec solidaire, was formed which included many activists who would have formerly been members or supporters of the PQ. Over subsequent elections, the QS would attract increasing support from left-wing sovereigntists disillusioned with the PQ, while on the right, the ADQ and later the Coalition Avenir Québec attracted the votes of right-wing and soft sovereigntists, resulting in the PQ being squeezed from both sides.
Third place[edit]
The PQ was unable to maintain the momentum it briefly had under Boisclair, and in the 2007 provincial election, the party fell to 36 seats and behind the conservative Action démocratique du Québec (ADQ) in number of seats and the popular vote: this is the first time since 1973 that the party did not form the government or Official Opposition. Boisclair said that the voters clearly did not support a strategy of a rapid referendum in the first mandate of a PQ government. Instead of a policy convention following the election, the party held a presidents' council. The party caucus in the provincial legislative assembly was said to have supported Boisclair continuing as leader.
On 8 May 2007, Boisclair announced his resignation as leader of the PQ.[18] This was effective immediately, although Boisclair confirmed he would remain within the PQ caucus for the time being. He was replaced by veteran MNA François Gendron, pending a leadership race and convention.
PQ leader Pauline Marois greets voters in Quebec City on the eve of the 2012 general election.
Former Bloc Québécois leader Gilles Duceppe was the first to announce his intention to run for party leadership, on 11 May 2007. He was followed the same day by Pauline Marois. In a surprise move, Duceppe withdrew on the 12th – leaving Marois the only declared candidate. No other candidates came forward, and on 26 June 2007, Marois won the leadership by acclamation.
In June 2011, the party was shaken when three of its most prominent MNAs—popular actor Pierre Curzi, former cabinet minister Louise Beaudoin, and Lisette Lapointe, the wife of former premier Jacques Parizeau, followed the next day by a fourth, Jean-Martin Aussant, quit the party to sit as independents over Marois's support for a bill changing the law to permit an agreement between the City of Québec and Quebecor Inc. concerning the management of the new sports and entertainment complex in Quebec City.[19] Unrest continued later in the month when a fifth MNA, Benoit Charette, also quit, citing his dissatisfaction with the party's sole focus being sovereignty. Beaudoin rejoined the PQ caucus in 2012.[20]
Marois minority government[edit]
The party won a minority government under Marois in the 2012 provincial election with 54 of 125 seats in the National Assembly. It embarked on a program of "sovereigntist governance" in relations with the rest of Canada, to return Quebec to balanced budgets through higher taxes and debt reduction, to increase the use of French in public services, and to address resource development in Northern Quebec. However the PQ's 'new Bill 101' did not pass. The centrepiece of the government's program was a Quebec Charter of Values which would have curtailed minority religious identity by banning the wearing of religious symbols by those in the employ of the government, particularly Sikh turbans, Muslim veils and Jewish kippas.
2014 defeat[edit]
Based on the charter's growing popularity among francophones, Marois called an early election for 7 April 2014 in an attempt to win a majority government. Despite leading in the polls when the writ was dropped, the campaign went badly due to several mishaps. The recruitment of star candidate Pierre Karl Péladeau, whose comments made sovereignty and the prospect of another referendum a focus of the campaign, as well as feminist Janette Bertrand suggesting that wealthy Muslim men were taking over swimming pools, among other incidents badly hurt the PQ.[1] Marois' government was defeated by the Liberals, led by Philippe Couillard, in the 2014 provincial election which resulted in a Liberal majority government. The PQ won 25% of the vote and 30 seats, its worst result in terms of popular vote since 1970. Marois announced her intention to resign as PQ leader that night.[21]
Stéphane Bédard was chosen interim parliamentary leader by the PQ caucus on 10 April 2014.[22]
On the 20 October, 2014 Lévis by-election, PQ candidate Alexandre Bégin came in third place, with 8.28% of the popular vote, only narrowly beating Québec Solidaire.[23]
Péladeau leadership[edit]
On May 15, 2015, Pierre-Karl Péladeau was elected permanent leader.[24]
Relationship with the Bloc Québécois[edit]
The Bloc Québécois (BQ) is a federal political party founded in 1990 by former Progressive Conservative MP Lucien Bouchard. It has traditionally had close ties to the Parti Québécois, and shares its principal objective, sovereignty. The two parties have frequently shared political candidates, and have supported each other during election campaigns. The two parties have a similar membership and voter base. Prominent members of either party often attend and speak at both organizations' public events. Gilles Duceppe, a former Bloc leader, is also the son of Jean Duceppe, a Quebec actor who helped found the PQ.
In June 2014, Mario Beaulieu, a former PQ riding president and Bloc candidate, was elected leader of the Bloc Québécois. Notwithstanding his previous ties to both parties, Beaulieu has been critical of what he sees as a too timid approach to sovereignty by both the Bloc and PQ. Beaulieu's election as Bloc leader was more warmly received by the PQ's rival party, Option nationale, than by the PQ.[25][26][27]
The party's symbol was designed in 1968 by painter and poet Roland Giguère. It consists of a stylised letter Q, represented by a blue circle broken by a red arrow. The creator meant it as an allegory of the Parti Québécois breaking the circle of colonialism which he claimed Canada was imposing on Quebec and opening Quebec upon the world and the future.[28]
The creator represented the second letter of the two-letter acronym only (see the Hydro-Québec logo, also an example of a second letter design).
Second logo of the party, used from 1985 to 2007
Compared to the Quebec Liberal Party, which has completely changed its logo often, the PQ has made very few significant modifications to its logo during its history. In 1985 it made the circle and arrow slightly thicker, and placed the tip of the latter at the centre of the circle. The original saw it span the whole diameter]. When placed upon a blue background instead of a white one, the circle was commonly turned to white, the single main design variation currently observed.
The party revealed a new logo on 21 February 2007, at the beginning of the 2007 provincial election campaign. While maintaining the basic style of past logos, the Q was redesigned and modernized. In addition, the tail of the Q was recoloured green, in order to present a more environmentally friendly image of the party.[citation needed]
Party policy[edit]
The Parti Québécois centres on the protection of the Franco-Québécois identity, up to or including the ultimate result of sovereignty-association. Sovereigntism, however, is 'Article 1' in its party program.[29]
After then-French President Nicolas Sarkozy rejected the long-standing "non-interference, non-indifference" stance towards Quebec should it seek sovereignty in 2009, PQ leader and Premier Pauline Marois' visit to France in October 2012 saw her reinstate it with French President François Hollande.[30] Also during her visit, Marois commented that "Canada's current foreign policy corresponds to neither our values nor our interests".[31]
The PQ delivered a brief to the reasonable accommodation commission on minorities, which conducted holding hearings across the province. The commission briefing looked to reformulate the relations between Quebec's francophone and minority populations. Its task was to be a platform for the PQ's protectionism of French.[32]
Marois stated there is nothing dogmatic in Francophones wishing to declare their existence even if it includes developing legislation requiring newcomers to have a basic understanding of French before becoming citizens of Quebec.[citation needed] (Note that there are no official citizens of Quebec[citation needed]; residents of Quebec are citizens of Canada.)
Further to her desire to protect French in Quebec, during Marois' visit to France in October 2012, she recommended that the "French elite" conduct themselves only in French on the international scene.[33]
Marois stated the PQ understands the arrival of newcomers is attractive and they donate largely to Quebec's growth, but she stated that does not imply that to better assimilate them that "we must erase our own history."[34]
As of 2014, the PQ electoral program describes the party’s main commitment: "Aspiring to political liberty, the Parti Québécois has as its first objective to achieve the sovereignty of Quebec after consulting the population by a referendum to be held at the moment that the government judges appropriate."[35]
Other electoral issues were the Quebec Charter of Values, and language.[36]
These are the slogans used by the Parti Québécois in general election campaigns throughout its history. They are displayed with an unofficial translation. The elections in which the PQ won or remained in power are in bold.
• 1970: OUI – Yes
• 1973: J'ai le goût du Québec – I have a taste for Quebec
• 1976: On a besoin d'un vrai gouvernement – We need a real government
• 1981: Faut rester forts au Québec – We must remain strong in Quebec
• 1985: Le Québec avec Johnson – Québec with Johnson
• 1989: Je prends le parti du Québec – I'm choosing Quebec's party / I'm taking Quebec's side (double meaning)
• 1994: L'autre façon de gouverner – The other way of governing
• 1998: J'ai confiance – I am confident / I trust
• 2003: Restons forts – Let us stay strong
• 2007: Reconstruisons notre Québec – Let us rebuild our Quebec
• 2008: Québec gagnant avec Pauline – Quebec winning with Pauline
• 2012: À nous de choisir – The choice is ours
• 2014: Plus prospère, plus fort, plus indépendant, plus accueillant – More prosperous, stronger, more independent, more welcoming
Party leaders[edit]
Until 5 June 2005, the office of Leader of the Parti Québécois was known as President of the Parti Québécois.
Party leader Years as party leader Years as Premier
René Lévesque 1968–1985 1976–1985
Pierre-Marc Johnson 1985–1987 1985
Guy Chevrette 1987–1988 acting leader
Jacques Parizeau 1988–1996 1994–1996
Lucien Bouchard 1996–2001 1996–2001
Bernard Landry 2001–2005 2001–2003
Louise Harel 2005 acting leader
André Boisclair 2005–2007 -
François Gendron 2007 acting leader
Pauline Marois 2007–2014 2012–2014
Stéphane Bédard 2014-2015 acting leader
Pierre Karl Péladeau 2015-present -
Leaders in the legislature[edit]
When a Parti Québécois leader does not have a seat in the National Assembly, another member leads the party in the legislature.
Parliamentary leader Years as parliamentary leader Comments
René Lévesque 1968–1970 René Lévesque sat as an Independent member until the 29 April 1970 election.
Camille Laurin 1970–1973 René Lévesque did not have a seat from 29 April 1970 to 29 October 1973.
Jacques-Yvan Morin 1973–1976 René Lévesque did not have a seat from 29 October 1973 to 15 November 1976.
René Lévesque 1976–1985
Pierre-Marc Johnson 1985–1987
Guy Chevrette 1987–1989 Became Leader of the Opposition when Johnson resigned on November 10, 1987. Remained parliamentary leader after Jacques Parizeau became party leader from 19 March 1988 until Parizeau won a seat on 25 September 1989.
Jacques Parizeau 1989–1996
Lucien Bouchard 1996–2001 Lucien Bouchard did not have a seat from 27 January 1996 to 19 February 1996.
Bernard Landry 2001–2005
Louise Harel 2005–2006 André Boisclair did not have a seat from 15 November 2005 to 14 August 2006.
André Boisclair 2006–2007
François Gendron 2007
Pauline Marois 2007–2014 Pauline Marois lost her seat on 7 April 2014 and announced her resignation as leader.
Stéphane Bédard 2014–2015 Interim leader following Marois' defeat and Péladeau's election
Pierre Karl Péladeau 2015–present
Party presidents[edit]
Until 5 June 2005, the office of President of the Parti Québécois was known as First Vice-President of the Parti Québécois.[37]
Party president Years as party president Comments
Gilles Grégoire 1968–1971
Camille Laurin 1971–1979
Louise Harel 1979–1981
Sylvain Simard 1981–1984
Nadia Assimopoulos 1984–1988 Nadia Assimopoulos served as acting leader (then known as president) from 20 June 1985 to 29 September 1985.
Pauline Marois 1988–1989
Bernard Landry 1989–1994
Monique Simard 1994–1996
Fabien Béchard 1996–2000
Marie Malavoy 2000–2005
Monique Richard 2005–2009
Jonathan Valois 2009–2011
Raymond Archambault 2011–Current
Leadership elections[edit]
General election results[edit]
General election Leader # of seats won % of popular vote Result
1970 René Lévesque
7 / 108
23.06% Third Party
1973 René Lévesque
6 / 110
30.22% Official Opposition
1976 René Lévesque
71 / 110
41.37% Majority government
1981 René Lévesque
80 / 122
49.26% Majority government
1985 Pierre Marc Johnson
23 / 122
38.69% Official Opposition
1989 Jacques Parizeau
29 / 125
40.16% Official Opposition
1994 Jacques Parizeau
77 / 125
44.75% Majority government
1998 Lucien Bouchard
76 / 125
42.87% Majority government
2003 Bernard Landry
45 / 125
33.24% Official Opposition
2007 André Boisclair
36 / 125
28.35% Third Party (Liberal minority government)
2008 Pauline Marois
51 / 125
35.17% Official Opposition
2012 Pauline Marois
54 / 125
31.95% Minority government
2014 Pauline Marois
30 / 125
25.38% Official Opposition
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Royal East African Navy was a naval force of the former British colonies of Kenya, Tanganyika (Tanzania), Uganda and Zanzibar. Formed in 1952 to replace Royal Navy's Naval Volunteer Reserves in Zanzibar (est. 1938) and Tanganyika (1939) and was disbanded in 1962 with the independence of Tanganyika from Britain. The assets of the REAN was handed over to the East African Railways and Harbours Corporation.
The HQ for the REAN was in Mombasa, Kenya and headed by a resident officer from the Royal Navy. RN ships were re-assigned to the REAN and identified as His/Her Majesty's East African Ship (HMEAS). Initially it was a 200-member force.
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Han/Roman comparison
Happy New Year, Doug. I think you're right that all the material referenced to the WW Norton book needs to be taken out. It will take a bit of time though. Whether it needs to be protected after that depends on whether TI takes on board what we are saying about copyright. Yes, after lengthy ;-) consideration, I do want to run for admin. Do you want to nominate me? Itsmejudith (talk) 17:17, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
One alternative is to put the copyvio template on that blanks the page until the issue is settled. Moreschi offered to nominate you, take him up on it and I'll second you if that's procedure, what do you think? dougweller (talk) 17:22, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
I can see that so far you have deemed me unfit to edit wikipedia; although I disagree with your contention, it is within your abilities as an administrator to prevent a user from making edits. Therefore, in order to save you the displeasure of banning me, I will stop my editing of "comparison between Roman and Han empires" and other articles I have been working on until such time as you feel that I should be able to edit wikipedia. Please inform me of your decision if you do feel that way. Thank you.Teeninvestor (talk) 20:39, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
????? I didn't write any article about tv shows. I have written three articles so far. Also, not to be complaining, but i would welcome it if you found a source about this article yourself and added information to the article; your criticism is very welcome, but work is helpful too.Teeninvestor (talk) 16:56, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Working on sources that I can afford, but it may take a few weeks I'm afraid. You did create a talk page for the 100 best comedy shows/episodes/whatever asking what made it notable, a good question and the reason for the template on the article. I've run out of time for a few days to do anything lengthy, if no one comments on what you've written I'll try to find time. remember, there is no real rush (except of course for copyvio problems which I don't think exist anymore, there we do act fast and sometimes drastically). dougweller (talk) 17:44, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Oh that article. I didn't put up the template because I didn't have much knowledge on the subject, so I merely raised a question to the user. Any contributions by you would be appreciated. Just to note, I am in the process of rewriting paragraphs based on Norton(e.g. restoring the material so it doesnt violate copyvio{I have yet to receive a letter from the publisher, therefore I assume it is copyvio). I'm sure you will agree Norton is a credible source. As to the 5000 years book, I have found you A description of the books the publisher (A big publishing firm in China) has published(It's in Chinese unfortunately). As you can see, the publisher is quite a big and relatively reputable publisher in China. ,, These websites are lists of books they have published.
search:内蒙古人民出版社 in any chinese book site, and im sure you will get results. Here is the website of the publisher: I know it is preferable to have english sources, and i am in process of getting these sources. search neimenggu renmin chubanshe (pinyin rendition of the publisher's name)in google, and you will see it is cited in even english books. Teeninvestor (talk) 18:14, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I have added page numbers for all my book sources except a few secondary sources e.g. I checked an article found some claims that were sourced to that book. See structural history of the Roman Army in that respect. In terms of the 5000 years book and sun tzu's art of war, I do own them and so I have added page numbers. Sorry that was me I forgot to log in. Also, can you help me rewrite several paragraphs that were deleted because of copyvio and now I have to rewrite based on the source Norton books. We can settle the OR, and 5000 years thing later. I believe getting that information restored is first priority. Do you have any problems with the economics section(proposed restoration)????(teeninvestor) (talk) 17:11, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Did you see my suggestion regarding the chinese history book? Although I see your objection, I believe it would be a good source for say, description of han agricultural methods, equipment and other noncontroversial details. However, the statement han economy is largest needs more verification. Teeninvestor (talk) 15:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Dougweller, when will you be able to get the conceiving empire book? We're waiting for that. As to the chinese source, I believe it can a temporary solution.Teeninvestor (talk) 16:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I have no idea how long it will take to get it. I don't think we can have 'temporary' solutions, it's either suitable for a WP encyclopedic article or not. WP:There is no deadlineand it's better to have a shorter, good article than a longer one that for instance can't be verified by most of our readers.
Most Common Name "Shedu"?
Hello Doug, seeing your knowledge in Ancient Near Eastern Studies, I would like to get your input here [[1]] . I wanted you to look over my findings, on the grounds that the current name of the article is not the most common name in the english language. Perhaps you can validate this finding or make your own suggestion to what is the best name for the article. I would appreciate your input here, perhaps you can come across some findings of your own. Thank you in advance. Ninevite (talk) 20:58, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Happy New Year!
Happy Darwin200 Year! . dave souza, talk 22:27, 1 January 2009 (UTC) (for story line see Darwin's Rhea#Discovery)
Dear Dougweller,
Wishing you a happy new year, and very best wishes for 2009. Whether we were friends or not in the past year, I hope 2009 will be better for us both.
Kind regards,
Majorly talk 21:02, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the wishes, Doug. All the best to you and yours, too! . dave souza, talk 22:27, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Restoration of material from Norton.
I have decided to restore several paragraphs rewritten because no one seemed to have objections to them. This is NOT an attempt on my part to restore copyright vio material. Although I am not a big fan of copyright law, I don't want to break it or cause wikipedia to be sued over it. I only reinserted it after putting it up for a day and no one submitted objections(I knew you were on at that time because you posted several messages on the talk page). If you had complaints, please address them on talk page. Right now, it seems like no one has objections. Don't worry; I will only restore the paragraphs I have written in talk page. Also, regarding inline citations, I'll get to that after we deal with some other concerns(finding another source, adding technology section, etc...). Also, regarding Original research, I believe that sources that only compare one empire can be used to provide context. The reader could make his own comparisons from the facts. As to direct comparisons, I think Norton could be a good source.Teeninvestor (talk) 00:33, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Can you show an example of inline citations? cause WP: Citations isnt very helpful. i used the first method I found for most citations.Teeninvestor (talk) 15:47, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
As well as WP:CITE, see [2], [3], [4], [5] - it's hard work. :-) dougweller (talk) 20:19, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
RE: Do you know why H5+R1A (talk · contribs) is editing your User page?
Hi there,
I'm not sure why he's editing my user page actually, I don't think I've blocked the user or his socks.
The Helpful One 22:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Ah ok, thanks for clearing that up! :) The Helpful One 18:41, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
RFC at WP:NOR-notice
A concern was raised that the clause, "a primary source may be used only to make descriptive claims, the accuracy of which is verifiable by any reasonable, educated person without specialist knowledge" conflicts with WP:NPOV by placing a higher duty of care with primary sourced claims than secondary or tertiary sourced claims. An RFC has been initiated to stimulate wider input on the issue. Professor marginalia (talk) 06:07, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi there. You deleted some of my additions to the Sphinx article. I accept some of your corrections, and have added the required extra references etc as suggested. However you also deleted some significant extra material, seemingly on the grounds that you supposed it to be original research. These OR assertions are incorrect. I have therefore reinstated the original text (more or less) but have included the necessary references to the work of the original authors from whose voluminous papers I have extracted and summarised these points. I hope this now meets the standard. I don't understand your assertion about the "errors such as that about the Geological Society meeting" - I have deleted it meanwhile, but please clarify?Wdford (talk) 23:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Schoch had a booth at the meeting, with photos, etc, for a morning or an afternoon. It's called a poster session, and there are perhaps hundreds of them at a GSA meeting. Other geologists wander among them and perhaps chat a bit. Schoch never claimed this as an endorsement of his work, this all comes from John Anthony West in the first place, and was just an anecdote with no evidence behind him. dougweller (talk) 06:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, it is still OR, because you are using statements by others to come to a conclusion. Eg, unless Lerner connects the channel he discovered to the age of the Sphinx, then you can't use that. If he does, fine, tell us what he says. The paragraph starting 'per Doctor Schoch looks like OR also, and as Giza still receives heavy rainfall so far as I know it's incorrect anyway. The para starting 'the primary counterargument' is all OR (see WP:SYNTHESIS. Ditto the para starting 'However the erosion. You are clearly coming to conclusions yourself based on other people's work. That's fine in an essay, but here we just report what reliable sources have to say and let our readers some to a conclusion. See WP:NPOV about the weight given to various views (not that I'm raising that as an issue here now), and WP:NOR. dougweller (talk) 07:00, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the very useful feedback. I have left out the less-important elements, and have now inserted only the important but disputed material using direct quotes from the original texts. I hope I have done it correctly. I agree that Lawton himself is not generally an objective source, but Reader's paper is being published here in full and without Lawton's censorship.Wdford (talk) 18:10, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
And thank you. I tried to go through the article bit by bit detailing what I was doing and why. I think it's still necessary to have a bit of why Bordeau disagrees with Reader, and more about why Egyptologists disagree (the archaeological reasons). Then the thing to do was to think about WP:UNDU and WP:NPOV, so ideas are given coverage that their significance shows they should have, or however it's worded. A bit tricky, but the idea is that an idea not taken very seriously doesn't get the same attention as one taken more seriously. I will say that I think Schoch's prominence over Reader and Coxill's ideas has more to do with publicity than anything else. dougweller (talk) 18:19, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I think Schoch gets the nod because he came on the scene first - Reader has added a lot of extra value, but in most things he agrees with Schoch, and so naturally it is "Schoch, supported by Reader" rather than the other way around. I also think its wrong to suppose that Reader is more credible than Schoch - scientifically their methodology does not seem much different - all that Reader has done differently is to deduce that the Sphinx may have been carved hundreds of years earlier rather than thousands of years earlier, which makes the Establishment a bit less unhappy, and he has done so with less publicity.
I am happy to enlarge the reason why Egyptologists disagree, in this section as well.
However, I disagree with your removing "what the authors didn't say". In all cases the rebuttals failed to explain all the evidence, namely why did their proposed process affect only the one small area and not all the other rock of equal age as well? Both Schoch and Reader clearly stated that no explanation other than water erosion could explain ALL the evidence, and Gergis is already complaining that inserting detailed quotations each time is more than is required. Surely it is not OR to word a point so as to make it clear what it says and what it does not say - especially as this is scientific evidence rather than just an opinion (perhaps we should move the deductions re the timing to the end, to correct the UNDUE??) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wdford (talkcontribs) 13:26, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Of course, neither Schoch nor Reader are full-time professional geologists. One reason not to use Lawton's site is that he calls Schoch a Professor of Geology, which is not at all accurate, geology is part of what he teaches (at a non-degree level), but only part and not a minor part, and he does little if any serious geology research. As far as OR goes, we report what authors say without getting into our own discussions about it, and certainly without making any deductions of our own. And there is still the issue about the mainstream view being given much less coverage than other views. dougweller (talk) 14:27, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
True - but the fact that they are not full-time professors does not invalidate their observations, and it should not undermine their deductions either? If so, the world would not know that Troy really existed? However I agree with your concern about UNDUE - this extra material was only included in an attempt to address OR - so I have greatly reduced the size of the section to comply. I am happy with the current version, if its acceptable?Wdford (talk) 15:52, 5 January 2009 (UTC
Schoch is a full time professor, I meant that neither of them are full time geologists so far as I know. I started a discussion on WP:UNDUE on the talk page, let's see how that runs. dougweller (talk) 15:58, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Re: Martinjacobson1
Hello. I noticed you detagged Martinjacobson1's userpage. I'm fine with that, I had only tagged it as attack because of concerns that it may have violated WP:BLP. Saying someone was addicted to heroin isn't exactly flattering. But of course, it does seem to have some legitimacy; I had some reservations about CSD'ing the article and they were obviously founded. Apologies for the inconvenience. » \ / ( | ) 13:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
No problem. I did tell the editor I thought it was inappropriate for his userspace. dougweller (talk) 15:59, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Deleted: Egolf Tarheel Tour
Why was this article deleted? I wrote this wikipedia page as a project for my internship, the first thing I did was just to get it up there. It got marked for speedy deletion, so I changed and added a bunch of stuff to insure that it would not be seen as advertising which it is not. I added a schedule of tournaments and past winners of events as well as references. Egolf Tarheel Tour is a legitimate Developmental Golf Tour, similar to NGA Hooters Tour, which has a wikipedia page. Please help me to make this page so that it meets your guidelines.
Thank you, Robert Friedman —Preceding unsigned comment added by Refriedm (talkcontribs) 17:17, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I just saw what you wrote on my talkpage. I am working on getting it userfied and will then add outside sources. Thanks Refriedm (talk) 17:51, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Indefinite protection of articles is prohibited by policy (and that's especially true for "preventive protection"); that was the sole reason behind my unprotection action. Seeing the influx of activity you are referring to, I would say that using long-term semi-protection would have been a wiser course of action, but that, of course, would have been impossible to predict when I lifted the protection this morning. Rest assured, it was my intent to watch this article further, but, as you realize, one cannot watch everything full time, so others had to deal with this in the past half day. At any rate, I semi-protected this article for one month due to the reasons you laid out above. If you still disagree, feel free to bring this to ANI. Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:36, January 5, 2009 (UTC)
Happy with this, but after the month I shall probably reprotect, this has a few year to run and it will get wilder as it goes on. I may take it to ANI later this year to see how long we can run at a time with semi. Thanks. dougweller (talk) 21:55, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Agreed, but we shouldn't be depriving good editors a chance to make useful contributions to this article, even if it means more work for us reverting all that end-of-the-world crap. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 22:02, January 5, 2009 (UTC)
Ah, I think it may be or become eligible for indef semi - "Administrators may apply indefinite semi-protection to pages which are subject to heavy and persistent vandalism or violations of content policy (such as biographies of living persons, neutral point of view)." Did you mean indefinite full protection? dougweller (talk) 22:08, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, that's what I talked about originally. Indef semi in this case may be fine; or we could try one-months increments to see how it goes.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:19, January 6, 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:An#Copyright_vio_needs_speedily_deleting - John Sloan (view / chat) 22:34, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks - I asked too soon, I managed to get there in the end. dougweller (talk) 22:36, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Promised Land
Hi there,
Just checking the reason why my 'good faith' edit was removed. I thought I included a citation...
Ojh23 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ojh23 (talkcontribs) 01:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
You sort of included a citation. But you removed the 'reflist' template which made the other references invisible, you should have used the 'cite your sources' ref /ref with <> -- look in the edit window, bewlow the tick box for watch this page, next to sign your posts. You called the author 'Dr' which we don't do, and you didn't mention that he is speaking from a Muslim tradition which I think is an important part of the context. I have one other non-technical concern, is he speaking for the Muslim tradition or is this just a personal opinion of his? Do you know? dougweller (talk) 06:10, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Sorry - didn't realise about the 'Dr.' etiquette and I'm afraid I don't understand technical computer-speak stuff. I should have edited without the refs disappearing, but didn't realise I'd done this. On the last point about Guillaume, he was a professor of Old Testament studies at the University of London; generally when scholars are writing scholarly treatises and books they are written in the spirit of rational, academic debate, and not opinion. If you would rather, I can mention that my citation of Guillaume takes account of the fact that he was also a prominent Islamic scholar. However, his commentary on the Scriptures was frequently published by the SPCK - Society for the Promotion of Christian Knowledge, which would suggest he was not 'speaking for the Muslim tradition'. I will wait to hear back from you before changing anything.
Owen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ojh23 (talkcontribs) 15:36, 6 January 2009 (UTC) Sounds good. Use the Preview button next time, when I forget I often have it wrong. I'm sure Guillaume is ok, just add that he was an Islamic scholar (don't call him prominent as that would be a personal opinion). As we have an article on it, put his name within [['s, so it shows up Alfred Guillaume. Look at this Land==ki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Footnote_system to see how to do references, they go between the ref and /ref (both surrounded by <'s and >'s. Which are, as I said, on the 2nd line below the edit summary window. I'll tidy it up if there is a problem. dougweller (talk) 16:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
I just want to bring to your attention that User:Davidx5 went ahead and re-created his Hispanic (updated) article again, this time as Hispanic (European View).-5- (talk) 14:14, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I requested CSD as a recreation of deleted material. Verbal chat 14:34, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks everyone, nothing for me to do then! dougweller (talk) 15:10, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Happy New Year!
Hi Doug. Hope your quiet evening in went well. We did much the same, but it seems like a long time ago. Co-nom would be absolutely great. A bit busy at work this week, but haven't forgotten and hoping to put the RfA in say by the start of next week. Cheers. Itsmejudith (talk) 17:50, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Many thanks for your co-nom - hard to recognise myself in your description ;-) Have done draft answers to questions now. Itsmejudith (talk) 17:58, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Rules of the game
Hi: I don't mind if pages are undeleted or whatever but could you possibly arbitrate this whole charade? Obviously there are things I just cannot discuss and since this is an anonymous place you must appreciate that right? Sincerely, Manhattan Samurai (talk) 16:08, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
EEStor advert tag
Hi, I removed the advert tag from the EEStor page after doing a minor edit to make it sound less like an advert. Since you added the advert tag I thought I should let you know. Please see my entry on the EEstor discussion page for more info about my thinking on this. Thanks, Stephen Luce (talk) 19:41, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for this. dougweller (talk) 21:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Davidx5 (talk · contribs)
Thank you. As far as I can tell, this user defines as American anyone who does not agree with him. I suspect that this is a fixation which we are not going to eradicate. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 12:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Just as a headsup, it looks like he's back to changing the statement by Anthony. I honestly don't think he'll ever change. Templarion (talk) 20:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I doubt it. Right now I've reblocked him so he can't use his talk page. Thanks for letting me know. dougweller (talk) 20:21, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Bronze Age
Respectfully, I propose to reinstate your deletion. What do you mean the article does not exist? I provided a full citation for it? It is a journal article (ie. hard copy), not a web article as the citation indicates. If you supply me with your email address I can send you a scanned copy. Then, after reading it, if you wish to critique its contents you can do so on the Talk page and comment accordingly. The article appears to be written by Mr Keys based on the work of others - it does not claim to be his own research. Kind regards--Calabraxthis (talk) 16:10, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Ok, but I know it is a magazine article (journal usually implies academic), it is just that the BBC doesn't list it as in the magazine issue you mention. That confuses me. If you click on the email this user at the left of this you can email me, and if you can't add an attachment I'll email you back, I'd rather not put my email address on my talk page. dougweller (talk) 16:14, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks - I have sent you through an email with a message so that I might send you an attachment of the scanned article. Kind regards--Calabraxthis (talk) 17:23, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Paper folding
Was it really necessary to remove the entire edit? You could have just asked for a better reference. Please do try to bite less (even though I'm not a newbie). — sjorford++ 18:31, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
My experience is that that rarely works, although what I could have done and perhaps should have done is removed it and notified you why. dougweller (talk) 14:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Missing a pair of curly brackets at Sovereign Grace Ministries I think.
The template does not appear, only {pp-protected}. All the best, and I am so very glad to know I am not the only one who does that from time to time. Thanks! :)sinneed (talk) 23:33, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
On the BLP board, I have a post that has both right-hand square brackets... but sometimes they both appear, and sometimes only one. Something odd going on. :)sinneed (talk) 13:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Copyright issue; may I refer a contributor to you?
Hi. I'm getting ready to go out of town for an extended weekend (though I'll be here some hours yet), and I have discovered a rather large copyright concern with User:Redpathanderson. He had an article listed at cp which came current today. As standard operating procedure for active contributors, I checked his other contribs and have so far located 14 other articles that either consist of or include large chunks of text copied from other sources. (I'm processing them, of course, and they're at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2009 January 16.) I've spoken to the contributor about it at User talk:Redpathanderson#Copyright problem: Reculver Castle, but he may have questions or concerns, particularly since his contribution here suggests he may not understand the issue. Do you mind if I refer him to you if he has questions that I am unable to address before going? If you don't have time, please let me know, and I'll track down somebody else who may be available or just tell him that we may not be able to discuss the matter before the 19th. (This, of course, presumes you'll be around before I go. If not, I'll think of something.) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
My only problem is that I still don't feel I'm up to speed on handling copyright issues if they aren't straightforward. But otherwise, I'm around and am happy to talk to him. dougweller (talk) 14:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
It shouldn't really be complicated. Thanks. I'll give him your name and let him know when I'll be back. He can also, of course, address questions at WT:CP, but that's hardly a quick forum. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:45, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you
I do. I am happy to give them. Thanks for the heads up anyway. AF-H —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fiskeharrison (talkcontribs) 16:22, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Don't despair, just learn German and seek exile at de: ;-)
Or more seriously speaking, whereas I'm rather skeptical about the Wikipedia in general, the handling of fringe theories and crackpots on enwiki rather made me (nearly) to stop contributing here. It just wasn't possible to stop the snake oil sellers here.
--Pjacobi (talk) 12:59, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I think I've had more successes than failures. Please don't give up! I've done a bit more tidying of Die Glocke. Warrington seems to have a lot of time on his hands. :-)
I originally created this article as a redirect. I don't think a deletion is appropriate. Deletion just creates a void where someone else will inevitably create an article or redirect anyway, one that might not be appropriate and be less informative or even trolly. If you would like to improve the contents, please try to improve the article itself. Deletion is not a solution at all. If you don't like the changes all these other people have made, then restore it to the redirect please, don't delete it. People have done a lot of work compiling information there, and it has historically existed for a couple years now, so why throw it out? Tyciol (talk) 21:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I am pretty sure it will end up as a redirect. Hopefully the AfD process will tidy up the bits that have accreted. dougweller (talk) 22:02, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
My RfA
Doug, thanks very much for your confidence in me and sorry it didn't work out. I'm going to thank everyone who contributed, then take a short break, then considering being adopted, which I've always thought is a nice idea. Keep up the good work! Itsmejudith (talk) 22:57, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Ta for noticing. I must have overlooked that one. Tresiden (talk) 13:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Mea culpa, I'll be more careful next time, thanks for pointing that out. — PhilHibbs | talk 20:59, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
please, please ... at Culture. Over the years, thanks to too many cooks, this article turned into a disaster. Mixing up different POV's even from different disciplines, lots of redundancies, no distinction between fringe and mainstream theory. I just did a major overhaul (with explanations on the talk page) - basically deleting fringe materials, cutting repetitions, and reorganizing. My intention for now was to clearly lay out different approaches to "culture." I do not think this article should just repeat stuff in Cultural anthropology and in Cultural studies for example but it does need to explain the relationship and differences between their respective approaches to culture. But (1) my revision is incomplete, (2) I surely made mistakes, and (3) a lot needs to be fleshed out. I would really appreciate it if you would go over it and fix any glaring errors, see if you can improve the organization, and then perhaps flesh out parts that need developing. Wikipedia's article on culture was awful - yet it ought to be great! I'd appreciate your help (current archeological methods and theories for material culture are surely relevant, highly relevant), Slrubenstein | Talk 05:48, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Ouch. I don't think I have time right now, as I am going to see my aged father shortly and will be away from my library. Maybe when I get back, it does look like a big job though! I'll think about it and look at it again next month. Sorry about that. dougweller (talk) 13:29, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Totally understandable. On the talk page I summarized specific areas I think still need considerable work, and besides, I value your judgment. I hope when you come back you will give it serious consideration, I am sure it would benefit from your efforts. Good luck with your father, I hope it is a positive visit. Best, Slrubenstein | Talk 15:54, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I wrote up a section on archeology and material culture - next month when you have time I would appreciate it if you would go over it and make sure there are no glaring errors, I would appreciate it. Also, if you have time to develop it, please let me know, I have a few specific ideas but would rather an expert do any further development. The trick is to make it about "culture" from an archeologist's POV rather than about "archeology" as such. Best, Slrubenstein | Talk 15:08, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug.
It appears that ancient-wisdom has been banned from Wikipedia.
Honestly...Im not sure exactly whats happened here, or why... I first find myself defending a charge of misrepresentation of the facts, to which I believe I have responded sufficiently well in that is an exploration of prehistory. The aim of the site is to research the boundaries of prehistoric research and as such some of the content is speculative, but it is no way incorrect, nor aimed to prejudice the reader. The site is fully referenced and is intended to be as unbiased and unprejudiced as Wikipedia says it is. As such - I asked for the errors I was accused of making and offered to correct them.
In reply, I found your note on the megaliths discussion page which seems to suggest that I am breaching Wikipedia guidelines by neither referencing material (which can be seen to be a false statement), or that I am prejudiced in my approach. It is ironic that your response was to block me, whereas mine was to accept criticism and alter the site according to your original request.
I once again ask you to specify the mistakes I was originally charged with (the 4-5 errors my 2 year old Top-50 stones page), in order that i can correct them ... As the site is clearly referenced, and I am openly offering to alter incorrect information on it... it will be interesting to see if you will allow ancient-wisdom to be part of the Wilkipedia future.
All the best..Alex.
( —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:36, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
I haven't blocked you, I have said that your site fails our criteria for reliable sources, see WP:RS. If you disagree, you can discuss it at the appropriate noticeboard at WP:RSN. It is your personal site, and I'm afraid neither you nor I are reliable sources on this area. Now if your name was Timothy Darvill or another noted archaeologist, it is possible but not certain that your personal site could be considered a reliable source. This has nothing to do with any specific errors. dougweller (talk) 13:26, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Protect this article
Can you please place some kind of protection on this article: George Vancouver
• There is quite a bit of vandalism in his article and I just restored a large chunk of info that had been stripped from it. It is a popular site for vandals since the city of Vancouver, Canada derived its name from him. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:51, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I don't think there is enough day-to-day vandalism, at least recently, to justify protection. Take a look at WP:Rough guide to semi-protection. I have found some broken text that I didn't feel I could fix, see the talk page.
If vandalism does grow to a daily basis, let me know. dougweller (talk) 13:23, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Block of
I used the wrong template, I did mean to only block for 24 hours. Feel free to bump it higher if it's warranted (I did notice they'd had lots of previous warnings and blocks). Sorry for the confusion. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 15:28, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Myspace Farm
Saw your notice on the admin noticeboard; I looked a bit deeper and found a few more of the chatters: Donnawood123 (talk · contribs), Laneyboi (talk · contribs) and DANHOWARD2K9 (talk · contribs) and it looks like the geezer character is back as Geezer1003 (talk · contribs)... Aunt Entropy (talk) 20:12, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Blocked Geezer1003 for his legal threat, put them all on ANI to see if anyone can block their IPs. dougweller (talk) 22:17, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
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Hi Doug,
Many thanks for your message.
I am unsure why there is an issue adding the safe-tide website to the lindisfarne entry. You provide a link to a version of the tidetables which is not covered by indemnity insurance or a strict data integrity policy. In addition to this, you link into a website selling a dvd about Holy Island and the 'Island Website' which is packed full of adverts for Holy Island related businesses and products. The castle also runs as a commercial venue, yet a link to their website is also displayed. Please can you explain why it is acceptable for one business to have an external link and not others.
James —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:23, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
The castle is National Trust, not a commerical venue. The island website is so far as I can see their official website, so is ok (see WP:EL and bring it up on the talk page if you are unhappy, but you'll be told the same thing. dougweller (talk) 09:16, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you mean by an official website? Anyone could claim to have the official website for a place. In this situation it is an individual who has set up a website about the place they live and sell advertising and products on the site. You are keeping the link for the Diary of an Island DVD ( - set up specifically to promote or sell? That would appear to be contrary to the policy you refer to. It is not a case of being 'unhappy' but I would like to see a consistent approach to the application, if certainly raises the issue of integrity over the data and those editing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:24, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
No reason you couldn't have deleted them, but I have now. Things get missed, not enough editors watching every article. dougweller (talk) 19:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello Doug,
I have removed links selling photography from the Lindisfarne site on several occasions, as have other users. More of less as soon as we remove them they end up being added again. Can you help?
Larry —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
A notable essay or not?
A minor point - I'm not interested in the entry - but please view latest article in Prospect - the blog entry for which which cites my bullfighting piece as a "much-noted essay for Prospect on bull-fighting (a piece which sparked one of the most in-depth discussions ever to feature on this blog)" - First Drafts --Fiskeharrison (talk) 01:57, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug
Thanks for your message explaining. I am brand new and simply read around to see what to do, followed the rules as far as I was concerned as I was in the process of making a page for Manion which is a mascot. Im not sure about the parameters of "notability", but there's a few relatively notable online followings.
Thanks, Simon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simanion (talkcontribs) 08:58, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
modern geocentrism: some scientists do believe it.
You said that no scientist believes that the earth is the center of the universe. That is shown to be false if you consult the following papers and monographs.
"Galileo Was Wrong: The Church Was Right, Volume I, The Scientific Case for Geocentrism" by Robert A. Sungenis, Ph.D. and Robert J. Bennett, Ph.D,
"Geocentricity, Relativity and the Big Bang" by Russell Arndts, (PhD in Chemistry from Louisiana)
"Geocentricity" by Gerardus D Bouw, (a mathematician)
Additionally, non-relativistic models of the universe which has the universe floating around a fixed earth have been developed by Moon and Spencer: "Binary Stars and the velocity of Light" Journal of the Optical Society of America (1953); and Barbour and Bertotti "Gravity and Inertia in a Machian Framework" Il Nouvo Cimento (1977).
Finally, an inverted universe, which claims that the surface of the earth is the inside of a hollow sphere, plausibly counts as geocentric and has been advocated by Fritz Braun, and by an Egyptian Mostafa Abdelkader: "A geocosmos: Mapping outer space into a hollow earth" in Speculatinos in Science and Cosmology (1983).
With the exception of Bouw these are all (to my knowledge) professional scientists, and so I would appreciate it if you let my edit stick. Pretending that scientific minority opinion does not exist because it is from a minority is not the attitude of the intellectually honest.
Perhaps "Modern Geocentrism is rejected by the vast majority of the scientific establishment" would be better?
Regards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:51, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
It would be. Bouw is an astronomer but I don't know what he actually taught. I do think that this scientific minority is infinitessimal, but it is there even if you can count them on your fingers. Put the list on the talk page, make it vast majority of scientists ('establishment' is not necessary, is it now?). dougweller (talk) 20:34, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Ole Miss
Ah! I didn't notice that one; never heard the nickname before, and thought it was a Norwegian University or something. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 03:10, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Now why didn't I think of that, of course it's Norwegian! dougweller (talk) 21:07, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Admin help
I would like this page moved to that page, but with the edit histories merged, if that is at all possible, if not, can you direct me to some way to do that sort of thing? TARTARUS talk 02:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I was in the air (literally). Why not just copy and paste your version over the current one? Does it matter that you would lose the history from the one on your page? dougweller (talk) 15:27, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
No, not really, I just heard that that was the way to do it... But if not, then I will just copy and paste it. TARTARUS talk 20:55, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
James Cameron Bio
Dougweller: You made an edit to the page of filmmaker James Cameron on 12-13-08 which did do two things, one (in my opinion) quite right, but the other (as far as I can tell), quite wrong. You deleted somebody's listing of Camoern as an "Anti-Christian". However, you apparently also listed Cameron as Jewish. It was my understanding that Cameron was raised only vaguely religious, but that he is entirely of Scottish ancestry with a light Protestant upbringing. I've read and heard him say this in numerous interviews (I'm a large fan of his, and run a blog about his works). For my citation, please see the "discussion" page at Cameron's own page.
If indeed you were correct and I am wrong, please contact me with your sourcs and also please incorporate these into his bio. Thank you.
Sorry, that must have been an effect of my edit. I would probably never add religious cateagories to an article. I'll undo it. dougweller (talk) 11:05, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Dougweller: Thank you for your rapid response, explanation for the error, and correction. Just one experience, but that's professional behavior through-and-through! —Preceding unsigned comment added by CameronFanSite (talkcontribs) 04:22, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
I agree. I can only revert the same article once a day, so there's nothing more I can do there, but he's clearly got a monomania about this, and doesn't much care about how Wikipedia works. Maybe an RfC? -LisaLiel (talk) 16:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
RfC means what? Cush (talk) 18:28, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm afraid I'm too uninvolved. To give this proper attention I'd need to spend too much time reading the relevant discussions. I suggest you report this to WP:ANI instead to get responses from people with more time on their hands. - Mgm|(talk) 21:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
OMG, would you take a look at Pi-hahiroth, please? Cush (talk) 17:01, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I just did. I hadn't realised he'd re-added those references early and messed up the bottom of the page (why does he say they are from the talk page). He is adding OR and editing against consensus. I've got some stuff to add to it, I was working on Baal-zephon and got distracted. Maybe not until tomorrow, meanwhile, as I say, he is editing against consensus. dougweller (talk) 17:05, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
OMG, would you take a look at Pi-hahiroth, please? AGAIN!!! Cush (talk) 20:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Link to Roman Empire.
I tried to put a link on Roman Empire for Comparisons between Roman and Han Empires but Gun Powder Ma reverted it supposedly because the article has "no information". He retained other links I put though(Roman architecture, History, etc...). I haven't worked on the article for a while(busy with other things, such as Economy of the Ming dynasty) but would you think that comparison article is ready for a link to the Roman Empire article? Also, Dougweller, not to be rude, but when will schiedel arrive? if the book arrives, can you inform me as soon as possible. Thank you very much for your help. Regards.Teeninvestor (talk) 23:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
I have no idea and no way to find out when the book will arrive, sorry. I'll think about the link question. dougweller (talk) 05:41, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
I just think it is better if you put it(if you agree that article should be linked to wikipedia) because I don't want to get into an edit war with gun powder Ma, who has heavy anti-Chinese prejudicesTeeninvestor (talk) 17:11, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
RfC on use of myth in religious articles
Hi. I have raised a RfC at Proposed change to policy on ambiguous words in religious articles. I feel this is an important issue and wanted to get an interested admin involved in the issue. Any input appreciated. Thanks--FimusTauri (talk) 09:21, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi! Thanks for the heads-up on the dead-end source. I didn't know the source was unreliable, but it is a personal website from someone so I agree it's best not to use. I took your advice and looked for better sources. Are these sources okay?,+iron,+furnace&source=web&ots=WJzolQaCH5&sig=VPOhOXewQAF5hSLwuZ8QWh0NLwQ&hl=en&ei=_cCKSaDqBYqhtweSn-yeBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=8&ct=result,+iron,+furnace&source=web&ots=ZnEjQi52NG&sig=WRvnLo72eW1qNGPQtid36tcAttM&hl=en&ei=_cCKSaDqBYqhtweSn-yeBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=11&ct=result,+neolithic&source=web&ots=wWVGAvbwDC&sig=oLsfZADAq2fplcionxe5hXjBgXw&hl=en&ei=V8GKSaSbO9eitge6-eibBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=10&ct=result#PPA71,M1
Please let me know. Sorry for the cumbersome format, I'm still not completely used to the formatting scheme of Wikipedia.Full Shunyata (talk) 10:39, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
It takes time to get used to it. :-) Except for the 'teachers' guide' and, they look good. Did you see the pdf article on AMS dating? It looks good (although of course it itself is over 2 decades old, always check for more recent stuff). dougweller (talk) 10:44, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks again for helping me out with the sources. ;-) I found a few more sources on wheels in ancient Africa, particularly in northeastern Africa. Do these sources look okay?,M1 (metallurgy in ancient Africa)
Do these sources seem to be on the level? Thanks again! Full Shunyata (talk) 22:40, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
The 27s
Greetings, Dougweller. I have removed the "speedy deletion" template from "The 27s". See Talk:The 27s: The Greatest Myth of Rock & Roll#Proposed deletion of this article. Mudwater (Talk) 12:30, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Ok, it is self-published and doesn't meet our notability criteria (eg multiple non-trivial sources) so I've taken it to AfD. dougweller (talk) 12:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, that's the best approach in this case. Mudwater (Talk) 13:03, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug, do you mind taking a look at the article Cryptoarchaeology? I can't make much sense of it. I think it's an attempt to rebrand pseudoarchaeological ideas. If anyone felt like suggesting the article be deleted I wouldn't object, but I'm not sure enough to do so myself. Regards, ClovisPt (talk) 21:42, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I've just taken one article to AfD you might be interested in, I'll think about this one tomorrow. dougweller (talk) 22:03, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I really don't have the patience or the interest to follow him around Wikipedia generally, but a number of articles are on my watchlist, and I'll certainly appropriately deal with relevant edits of his as I notice them. AnonMoos (talk) 14:50, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Testimonium Flavianum - Additional EL
The proposed addition for EL under "Josephus on Jesus" is indeed posted on a "blog" which promotes interest in a forthcoming book. The article is actually Appendix I from the book, and has been provided because the Appendices tend to be short, stand-alone arguments, with less copyright restrictions.
If the proposed new EL fails Wikipedia standards, it might be a good idea to review several of the existing Wikipedia EL's on the referenced topic:
Josephus' Account of Jesus: The Testimonium Flavianum dead link I am not sure how this is any less a blog, promoting a POV (although the opposite POV). "...dedicated to defending and promoting a naturalistic worldview on the internet..." Also markets numerous books and products: "Get the Official Internet Infidels T-Shirt! Now only $16!!" A well researched article, but not a POV? "Here you will find my writings on faith, science, history and philosophy as well as loads of annotated links and book reviews. The aim of Bede's Library is show how a person from a scientific background came to Christianity and has had his faith strengthened rather than weakened by argument and reason. It is intended for anyone who is interested in these subjects and wants to see how having faith does not mean sacrificing intellectual integrity." A Catholic Newsletter...good article, but must be purchased for $1.50 Arguments for a POV...I think it provides value, but again a POV Kenneth Humphreys' site? blog? promoting his book 'Jesus Never Existed'
Other than the fact that many of these sites are more commercial, I don't see the distinction? If you read the proposed article, you will find that it contains period sources not present in the other EL's, and it certainly adds something to the discussion.
I appreciate your thoughts,
Mortalresurrection (talk) 23:27, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
You are quite likely right about the other links, to be honest I was tired and didn't look at them. Far too many articles have links like that. We have a saying 'Other***exists' which means that just because other stuff is bad is no excuse for leaving a particular case. dougweller (talk) 06:25, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Nativity of Jesus
Doug, would you mind commenting on a content dispute at Nativity of Jesus. It concerns a table comparing the accounts of Matthew and Luke. There are concerns over the use of primary sources, OR, novel synthesis, lack of explanation/context which would be afforded by prose, and even its necessity, given the section "The nativity as myth". The table can be seen at this version of the page: [6] at section 1.3, "The narratives compared". Discussion on the issue can be found at Talk:Nativity of Jesus, in the threads "The two narratives compared", "The two narratives compared, part 2", and at "Task List (January 15, 2009)". Your input on the issue would be greatly appreciated, as very few persons have commented on it. Thank you, Doug. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 19:49, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Probably tomorrow. I've raised the issue of Rktect's edits successfully. [7] - a shame in a way, but I've known him for far too long and he hasn't changed. dougweller (talk) 20:12, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw it all unfold on my watchlist. I think it was resolved well; he obviously wasn't going to change/improve. I look forward to hearing what you think about the Nativity stuff tomorrow, thanks. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 20:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I wanted to ask you something, would you mind emailing me so I can get in contact with you? Mine is my user name here at gmail dot com. Thanks Doug. carl.bunderson (talk) (contributions) 21:18, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
rktect and Mount Horeb
Thanks for you note. I didn't realise that rktect was about to get blocked, although I certainly understand why. As far as Mount Horeb is concerned, I and another editor had already done a complete revert of his contributions on three occasions previously, so there wasn't much damage, and I was actually beginning to get the glimmerings of real co-operation going. You can therefore relax and leave it, and if anything needs doing I'll do it. Many thanks. SamuelTheGhost (talk) 22:34, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Somehow it is even sad, considering how much effort Rktect puts into his edits. It is quite unfortunate that most of it is plain nonsense (and I am just too lazy to pick out the good bits and pieces from the abundance of OR and SYN). I wish he would express his ethusiasm in a less intrusive way and not go overboard in every article he touches. Cush (talk) 23:14, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I do not look at my e-mail as often as I visit Wikipedia. I see no reason why we need to discuss Rktect in private. He is an utter pain in the proverbial. I fully endorse the current indefinite block. Feel free to "out" his Usenet activity. But I think it has already been done here - indeed I may have done it myself!
Since you ask, I first encountered him in 2005 in connection with this ink blot (see File talk:3kr.jpg) and similar nonsense. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 01:24, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Actually you did, but I'd feel uncomfortable outing him. We used to get along relatively well even while disagreeing strongly. I was just wondering how you first encountered him, thanks for the explanation. dougweller (talk) 06:26, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your response to my edit on Tale of the shipwrecked sailor. After seeing the AfD for his Western Semitic calendar, I thought it would be good to track what other unsourced original research he has been adding. Edward321 (talk) 00:18, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Pyramid Construction Techniques
I recently added my external link to my paper The Great pyramid - How on Earth did they build it?
I did this because I notice that you have allowed F Steiger to do the same with his 'Pyramid construction using movable wooden ramps' paper.
I take your point that the hosting site offered to me by a friend for my paper is also an aviation training site. I had forgotten this aspect because the link is just a pdf download. If I now host the paper on my own site with no kind of commercial advertising at all, will it be acceptable for me to have the same opportunity as Mr Steiger to provide a link to my own paper? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mehtopa (talkcontribs) 18:54, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I haven't actively looked at the external links and dealt with them, but you may be right that others shouldn't be there. WP:EL says no personal websites with some exceptions, a personal website run by Mark Lehner would be ok for instance. Read WP:EL, if you think some links shouldn't be there, remove them. dougweller (talk) 19:08, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I have not suggested that any external link shouldn't be there.
I am requesting that my own link may be placed in the EL section of the Egyptian pyramid construction techniques page provided that I ensure that in all respects the hosting site linked to is appropriate as defined in WP:EL. Mehtopa (talk) 20:53, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I can't give you or deny you permission to do any edits. All I can do is point out the guidelines, which say avoid links to personal websites and also " you should avoid linking to a site that you own, maintain, or represent — even if WP guidelines seem to imply that it may otherwise be linked. When in doubt, you may go to the talk page and let another editor decide. " dougweller (talk) 21:43, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Antarctica= Atlantis
How can you say the truth violates the NPOV policy when your vandalism prevents my POV from being presented? Where is the neutrality in censorship? Wikkidd (talk) 06:46, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
There's so much wrong in your statement above that it doesn't seem worth commenting on. I will just note that you have had 3 blocks, one for bad faith comments on talk pages (like the above) & tendentious editing, one for gross abuse of civility in edit summaries, and a 3rd for personal attacks/harassment. dougweller (talk) 08:32, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Release of New Book To Be Included
You have deleted my contribution. Professor Fida Hassnain ( and I have researched Roza Bal tomb for years and now our book is released. The Title is Roza Bal, The Tomb of Jesus. We have spent years investigating the name Yuz Asaf associated with the tomb and with Jesus. We investigate the claims that Yuz Asaf could be Jesus and that he survived crucifixion. We investigate the history of Roza Bal tomb and the claiments of a bloodline to Yuz Asaf and Jesus. We are actively seeking the DNA from Yuz Asaf and Roza Bal. The book is self-published in America. However it is also published by Gulshan Publishers in India, a reputable Publishing house with years of academic books listed in their titles. We do not need to provide a link to the amazon site. It just seemed the most convenient way for readers to locate the book. What would you suggest replace this? Further, there are numerous authors associated with Wikipedia who have self-published fiction and non-fiction books even including fiction titled Roza Bal. You have no difficulties with those, nor with their links to amazon. If they are in compliance here, I am sure we can be too. Please advise me how you would like the reference to this important book to appear here. If there is a special formula, please show me. The presence of a link to a reliable, up to date and well researched history of Roza Bal is much needed here. It does not have to be linked to amazon or the self-published version. But it is important that it be inlcuded here for other scholars and researchers. SuzanneOlsson (talk) 17:14, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I always have difficulties with self-published books and links to Amazon. When I see them I delete them. It's unusual for a book to have be both self-published and properly published. I suggest you just list the book with both publishers and put a note on the talk page (and in the edit summary say 'see talk page'. If you include the ISBN13 number users can click on it and find the book - you need to do it this way -- ISBN 978-1413304541. dougweller (talk) 17:40, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Deep sigh of relief here. I will go back and redo the page(s) as you suggested. Thank you and Happy Valentine Day.OH! By the way, the aforementioned book with the same title Roza Bal was also self-published in America and became a best seller that was picked up by an established publishing house in India...seems to be a trend nowadays.SuzanneOlsson (talk) 18:09, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Issues Just Arose
Doug, I just checked the page on Roza Bal and on Fida Hassnain...I am going to continue checking various pages at Wikipedia. It appears someone is again going around inserting derogatory statements on Wiki pages. His ISP is I traced this ISP to a suburb of New York, but I expect it did not originate there. Paul Smith lives in England. Due to ongoing legal problems, he is very careul about ISP's being traced to him. What he inserted on the newly created Fida Hassnain page was this line: "However, many genuine historians are skeptical of the imaginery claims of Hassnain. " This is typical Paul Smith, whom many of you knew here as Wfgh66 who was permanently banned from Wiki. There is no one else who would zero in on all things bloodline sucvh as Loremaster's page, which he had previously been hacking regularly, and anything Jesus in India, which he regards as heretical. He will also be hacking pages of people such as Laurence Gardner, where some Paul Smith derogatory remarks still remain, Kathleen McGowan's page, and others. I have been hesitant to make the corrections myself although I have seen his trail in and around wikipedia.It might be necessary to protect the Fida Hassnain page from now on.. Your call. SuzanneOlsson (talk) 00:34, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
The IP editor has interests very different from Paul Smith's, I really don't think they are the same person. I see someone else just reverted him. dougweller (talk) 20:46, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Here is a link to a new thread about this king which is not very informative. While it does not offer much information, for some reason it comes up with Google links to it while your article on him does not. The possible reason is that your articles start like this User:Rktect/chedarlaomer and thats what Google see's. If you could correct this somehow, you might save a lot of repeat posts about the same subject matter you address as people duplicate topics because they don't realize you already have one.
I don't contribute because I find Wikipedia's edit options difficult to understand and even finding the option to communicate with you was a bit difficult.
Anyhow, is there another way you could credit yourself as the person posting the article with maybe your nick after the title? Google would pick up on all of your articles more easily then which is the whole purpose of Wikipedia...the free exchange of knowledge and if we can't find your articles, then there is no exchange.
Not trying to be difficult, just can't find your articles when I do a search using Google and other search engines.
Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Armorbeast (talkcontribs) 01:25, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi - ordinary articles aren't written by any one editor, anyone can add/delete/change them, and who does what is shown on an edit history page. Sometimes people keep versions of articles in their own personal space, which is what Rktect has done. I have to say that Rkect has been banned from editing because he broke one of our main policies, which is that articles should be about what reliable sources have to say about a subject and that users should not be adding their own personal research to articles. So anything that has Rktect's name in it is probably not very reliable. A good article will have every important claim referenced to a reliable source, eg for history articles, academic books and journal articles.
A lot of the old Chedorlaomer article has been moved to a new article - click on this Battle of the Vale of Siddim. I hope this helps and doesn't just confuse! dougweller (talk) 21:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Why don't you want information relevant to Atreus included on his page? This is vandalism in my opinion. Wikkidd (talk) 22:36, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Then you need to learn about Wikipedia considers vandalism. WP:Vandalism says "Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia.". It goes on to say "Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. Even harmful edits that are not explicitly made in bad faith are not considered vandalism. For example, adding a controversial personal opinion to an article once is not vandalism; reinserting it despite multiple warnings is. Not all vandalism is obvious, nor are all massive or controversial changes vandalism. Careful attention may need to be given to whether changes made are beneficial, detrimental but well-intended, or outright vandalism.
You added four paragraphs which was basically an argument about planetary orbits changing, Velikovsky, etc. Although Plato mentions Atreus in his Statesman, the mention is just coincidental, a quarrel between Atreus and Thyestes being mentioned briefly as a 'hook' to hang a story on. The story itself is not relevant to the article on Atreus. You are using it to insert material about Velikovsky, etc.
Hi, I saw that your the one of the first to write a message on the Persian Revolt page, and have an important question to ask you, its on User:Mathsci talk page, I didn't want to retype it here, I skipped user foconoway, because he responds late to the messages on his talk page, therefore you were my next choice to contact. I am about to go somewhere tommorow, that is why your the third person I have contacted so far. Sorry, I'm just in a hurry. And by the way, I just recently joined Wikipedia. Thank you Doug.--Amerana (talk) 07:19, 18 February 2009 (UTC)Amerana talk
Hi again, thanks for the message. I have searched some of her activities on Wikipedia, and found that most Users did not like the articles she was creating. Is it possible that some of the articles (once edited or created by a an knowledgable person) be created? Please don't take this the wrong way, I totally disagree with the tactics she used to create them. But, think that a dedicated user (like me) could remake some of the articles with carefull precision and include the actual known information about them. Not only that, I will also create my own articles.
But because here "proposed" articles have now caught my attention, I think that I am responsible enough to work on them ("her articles" are technically not even her's, she didn't even make half of them). If you check my userpage, I am mostly eager to improve or create Military History articles that pertain to the worlds greatest conqueres, Cyrus and Alexander. I am currently taking a class on them in school, and I'm working towards a degree on Classical Antiquity. I read the Wikipedia guidelines, and do not need a mentor. I wanted to contact her because I found that she has great knowledge about Cyrus's battles, that I am now only studying.
It's too bad/ironic she packed the articles with excessive OR and had CIVIL problems, I guess if she was more mature, she could have been a good contributer to wikipedia (as well told me were she got here info from). I am very eager to engadge in article making soon, that is why I when I found her proposed "ideas", I thought that at least I could save them for the time being, so I put them on my drafts, its only one draft. Here it is, (on its talk page) User:Amerana/TigrisKapisa, I made a mission statement there, and seeing how unpopular these articles are, I promised to change everything, the titles, make total rewrites, and I'm thinking to put the battles and sieges that have too little information for an article, on a large "Campaigns of Cyrus article", a good example is the Siege of Thassos. It has it's own section, but its part of a larger article in the Greco-Persian Wars article. So finally, do you think my proposition (to revamp the articles) is good enough to be undertaken by me? Respond on my page, Thanks.--Amerana (talk) 08:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)Amerana talk
What have you been working on, friend? I got bored with sectarian arguements over at the Christianity projects, so I figured I would move over to the Ancient Egypt projects, where the gods and goddesses are all dead. I already feel like I scored some points by finding that bogus Neteraantmwmw.
Can we get Great Pyramid back to GA? It does't have far to go. -- Secisek (talk) 20:31, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I've been working on Tale of the shipwrecked sailor and Tjekker (and Venetian People but that's not AE, just pov nationalistic OR.
I will see if I can add anything to those articles. -- Secisek (talk) 20:38, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Take a look at the history of both. I can't recall, have you ever run into now indef blocked for OR User:Rktect?
I looked him over and I don't think we have crossed paths. Can I be of any help? -- Secisek (talk) 23:02, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't think so, but I do want to make sure all his etymologies are removed as I know from elsewhere that when he discusses such things with professional linguists they -- well, they ridicule his lack of understanding. dougweller (talk) 10:53, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
What professional linguists are involved here on wikipedia? Levalley (talk) 20:39, 27 March 2009 (UTC)LeValley
I'm not sure, why? Dougweller (talk) 21:46, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
The Return of Ariobarza?
Hi there, I strongly suspect that User:Amerana is none other than our old friend Ariobarza in disguise. I first suspected that he/she was back on Wikipedia last week when I saw the edits by this IP address [8]. It wasn't so much the edits themselves, as the rambling, self-justificatory edit summaries. However, one of the edits was a classic Ariobarza edit - compare: [9] and [10]. Note that these edits took place about 30 minutes before Amerana's account was created (not that that proves anything). Today, I saw another very similar edit [11], which made me think that Amerana is Ariobarza. Everything I have subsequently found out seems to confirm that hunch!
The evidence:
1. Amarena's strange fascination with Ariobarza and Ariobarza's orphaned articles - why, when it is clear that they were universally disapproved of (and based on OR), would anyone try and re-instate them as articles? Unless that person was Ariobarza?
2. Second, and this for me is the clincher, Amerana has transferred Ariobarza's stub user page articles to his/her own user page. Ariobarza's user page was deleted on the 23rd January. Amerana joined on the 15th February (as he/she is keen to stress in their messages). Although Ariobarza's talk page still exists, and lists three of the user-page articles (User talk:Ariobarza#One Final Clarification..., it does not list "Battle of the Tigris" User:Ariobarza/Battle of the Tigris. Yet Battle of the Tigris is one of the rescued articles on Amerana's user space User:Amerana/TigrisKapisa. There is almost no way of finding User:Ariobarza/Battle of the Tigris unless you already know the page exists - i.e. you are Ariobarza.
3. The style of writing and use of English is very similar (though he/she hasn't STARTED USING BLOCK CAPS yet)
4. Although Amerana has gone to some length to say they want to know how to contact Ariobarza, I suspect this is just a smokescreen. And this (quoted from above) is just weird: "It's too bad/ironic she packed the articles with excessive OR and had CIVIL problems, I guess if she was more mature, she could have been a good contributer to wikipedia (as well told me were she got here info from)". Especially since you never mentioned WP:CIVIL in your reply to Amerana.
5. For someone who claims to be new to Wikipedia, Amerana seems to know a lot already about processes and past disputes. For instance, on her user page:"Remember, Wikipedia is as reliable as its editors and many of its editors with regards to social sciences are not reliable." She has also marked herself out with the "This user rejects using notability as an inclusion criterion on Wikipedia." banner. Pretty strongly opinionated for someone who has theoretically not yet had an article deleted.
6. After approximately three hours of having a wikipedia account [12], they wrote: "Eventhough I have contributed to different articles in Wikipedia, I will still be somewhat busy." Amerana currently has made 1 edit to an article (today). This suggests that they are not a new user at all, but someone trying to evade a block.
I could go on, but I'm sure you get the general idea. I know there are ways of checking this kind of suspicion out, but that is the limit of my knowledge - I thought I would bring this to your attention because of your previous experience with Ariobarza. I apologise in advance if this turns out to be a wild-goose chase, but I'm there's something very suspicious about it all. Cheers MinisterForBadTimes (talk) 17:17, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. I'll give it some thought. dougweller (talk) 17:53, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I'll add to that list:
7. Same fascination with the Thermopylae infobox: [13]
8. Same inability to correctly add up numbers in from Herodotus
9. Same angry, ranting style of responding to messages here
10. Same paranoia as Ariobarza:
"But because your head is too clouded with getting back at Ariobarza, you'll do anything to make sure her work stays buried. I for one, plus some other users agree that Ariobarza, though given a lot of chances to improve herself, was ultimately treated very badly by some users on Wikipedia." (Quoted from the message they left on my userpage - I'm not sure how they managed to reach those conclusions based on the message I left here).
Me think they doth protesteth too much. MinisterForBadTimes (talk) 09:43, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Inappropriate warnings
Just noticed your warnings to User_talk: - all of their vandalism had been reverted by the time I'd given their first vandal warning, and they hadn't made any edits since then. If we notice that someone's quickly vandalised four different articles, we just warn them once for all four (either a friendly level one warning, or a harsh level4im if it's seriously abusive) and wait for them to react to that, rather than doling out four escalated warnings at once. --McGeddon (talk) 13:08, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
My bad, although I admit to seeing it as a record for other users more than anything else. But thanks, I'll remember that. dougweller (talk) 14:02, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Slight Tag Mistake
Hi, I was looking at the article 2012 Doomsday Prediction and had noticed that you had inserted a "citation needed" tag incorrectly. I've corrected it now, just wanted to let you know. Thanks, Darrenm540 (talk) 21:50, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Oops. More haste, less speed, (and preview!). Thanks. dougweller (talk) 21:52, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Mistakin Identity
Hi, I think you should check this out, [[14]] scroll down to my message, sorry it's a little long. Please read it carefully once, I don't feel like typing twice, also User Ministers additions now have been refutted in a new message on his page too, you'll know the ranting and paranoia first started with his theoritical speculation. Thanks.--Amerana (talk) 05:36, 21 February 2009 (UTC)Amerana talk
Fascism article
I wonder if you could look at Fascism#Political spectrum. The introductory sentence of this section is not supported by the footnotes, and much of the section is devoted to "left-wing fascism", which is not described elsewhere in the article. There has been discussion, but it has not been resolved. The Four Deuces (talk) 05:48, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I am very sorry, but I just don't have the time to spend on this. I do see that the problem has drifted over to the article Left-wing fascism. I suspect that a better source can be found for the introductory sentence, and because of the very differing ways the term fascism is used, it's no wonder that people see it all over the place (and others have presented it as, for instance, a center position to win popularity/votes, whatever, in my opinion. dougweller (talk) 19:56, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Solomon's Temple
There is a picture (Image:Jerusalem Ugglan 1.jpg) reappearing that depicts some kind of megalomaniac version of the temple at issue. Could you please remove this propaganda piece for good? Cush (talk) 18:18, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
G. Vancouver
Please consider partly protecting George Vancouver's article here: [15] I just had to revert vandalism with my anon IP (forgot to sign in) and notice it has been the target of a large number of anon IP vandalism in February 2008 due to his profile. George Vancouver is the origins for the city of Vancouver, BC and the site of the 2010 games. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 21:13, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
• Thank You for protecting George Vancouver for 1 month. The amount of vandalism in February 2008 to his article was really sad and it was likely frustrating for a registered user to repeatedly hit the revert or huggle button. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 20:48, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. But I'm not sure whether they're vandalizing or just trying to draw attention to the fact that they're still editing the page. If they're really a professional geologist, it's more likely to be the latter. Gail (talk) 16:53, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I think he is really a geologist (Australian), who wrote the book (he says, not me) to make money. dougweller (talk) 17:07, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I was going to suggest that he continue developing the article is his userspace, but after reading the AfD, I'm finding it unlikely that it will ever qualify as encyclopedic. Gail (talk) 17:21, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Evidently a she, not a he, spamming her book all over == a discussion of Ronald Reagan? Why not. Pakistan? Why not... dougweller (talk) 14:03, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
The True Furqan
Hi. I can assure you I have nothing to do with the book. I copied the info from amazon. It is a quite controversial book and I was surprised to see it is not on Wikipedia. I had put a proposal in village pump earlier on.--Abuk SABUK (talk) 22:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Ok, sorry about that. But it doesn't belong on Wikipedia as it is a self-published book. Also see WP:BK. dougweller (talk) 22:40, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
FYI: [16]. Cheers, Tiptoety talk 04:56, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank You ...
• Jeff (talk) 09:03, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Now I'm on the damn #cvn-wp-en greylist :( --Closedmouth (talk) 13:41, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
So you are, and I didn't even know it existed. Is there a way I can get you off? Stupid dog nudged me as I was going after a real vandal. dougweller (talk) 13:46, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Nah, it's fine, it expires in about five minutes. It just keeps pinging me every time I make an edit :P --Closedmouth (talk) 13:48, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Is there anything you can do to discourage 'Chrisbom' from vandalising Hatshepsut's article here. It feels like a vandalism only account and the kind of gross stuff he places there is terrible. 4 of his 5 edits are on her thus far. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 01:50, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
He's had two warnings and then stopped. If he continues, report him to WP:AIV. 06:24, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Re: Jeff Griffin's threats
Hi, thanks for all your help in stopping this guy. I have left a list at User talk:DarkFalls of other user names and IP addresses that he has used to harrass me. It seems that he has far too much time on his hands! Best wishes, WWGB (talk) 11:45, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks once again Doug. You admins have my sympathy for having to deal with this stuff on a regular basis. Regards, WWGB (talk) 22:33, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
March 2009
Hi! Wow, I want to thank you for pointing this out, and want to say I'm really sorry that happened. I had assumed that when seeing the link in the siege of halicanarssess, I guessed that the paragraphs had been copied from, so I later copied info from that site to created the siege of miletus. But now after carefully looking for the rule I broke, plus your warning to me, I promise I will never do that again. As it was a wrong way to make a good faith contribution on my part to Wikipedia. Much appreciated.--Amerana (talk) 19:49, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Looking for help with arbitration or deletion of biography
Doug, you checked in on my father's biography a couple of times and moved my comments about article bias to the talk page. Sorry that I'm not proficient in wikipedia but I could use some help. The biography is currently dominated by an anonymous user who is clearly one of a small number of detractors who participated in extensive usenet discussions with my father about the propagation speed of gravity. This is an extremely contoversial topic but the tactic he's employing to to personally attack my father and delete all references to the speed of gravity (replacing them with distorted and out of context claims about aliens and free energy). There's a clear agenda here and the article clearly violate NPOV. I'm not a wiki expert and I need help. I'm not looking for a piece that glorifies my father's work, there are plenty of articles like that on the web. Rather, I'm looking for a minimal statement of the facts with links to the appropriate information (both pro and con). Can you help me? As the article stands it's slanderous. I'll need to continue to make that clear in the text of the article as other media sources are attaching the wiki article to biographies about Tom. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikevf (talkcontribs) 18:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Take a look at Agnon's two comments today on the talk page. I am not at all clear why you think that comments about extraterrestrials and free energy are slanderous, and as I said on the talk page, he is notable for claims such as these. Btw, my own web page probably still links to an article by him debunking Sitchin. dougweller (talk) 18:53, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Triple Goddess
Hi Dougweller. Thanks for "completely agreeing" with me on Talk:Triple Goddess. I knew if I kept editing wikipedia, eventually someone would agree with something I wrote! A small aside - would you mind to sign the comment? Anyway, that made my day! --Davémon (talk) 20:17, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi there,
Thanks for the update! I'm just glad to know that I wasn't seeing things! I initially came to the conclusion on the basis of not very much evidence, but it just seemed too unlikely to ignore. Anyway, I figured that eventually they would "out" themselves as Ariobarza, given enough time. I almost contacted you earlier in the week, when I saw this edit [17]; it was too much to believe that two people could willfully misinterpret Herodotus in the same way [18]! I'm glad it's all sorted now though, and I'll keep my eyes open for any future avatars <sigh>. Thanks,MinisterForBadTimes (talk) 08:30, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes, that edit was pretty much a giveaway and probably the thing that spurred me on to do something. dougweller (talk) 08:32, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know about this. I agree that this was clearly a sockpuppet of Ariobarza - the editing and language made it very clear. I deleted the redundant copy of the old "Battle of the Tigris" article in userspace. One thing I'm curious about; was there a request for checkuser made somewhere? -- ChrisO (talk) 23:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes, an CU was done and Amerana blocked by the editor who did the CU, it's in the block log I think. dougweller (talk) 19:48, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
If you looked, I have not been reverting back to exactly the same version every time (unlike the two of you combined), and notice, the 3RR rule does not consider two people reverting to the same thing, as separate people, but as one. (talk) 18:15, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
You've misread the 3RR page entirely. It says "The rule applies per person, not per account." And it doesn't say anything about same version, it says "that reverses the actions of other editors, in whole or in part". But I won't block you if you revert again, just report you and let others decide. dougweller (talk) 18:20, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Your last two edits
The source [19] explicitly states: "The Achaemenids’ role in universal history lies in their fashioning a model for centralized rule over various peoples with different customs, laws, religions, languages, etc. to the advantage and profit of all and their achievement of a unified Iranian nation for the first time." and "Within a few years he founded a multinational empire without precedent—a first world-empire of historical importance, since it embraced all previous civilized states of the ancient Near East."
I am assuming that you did not bother reading the source, so please undo your edits and restore the sourced items. --WrongDude (talk) 19:20, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
You need to read WP:AGF. Two things - the link I found was [20]. Also, the article says "In universal history the role of Cyrus and that of the empire he founded lies in" which is not at all the same as what you quoted above. dougweller (talk) 19:36, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Why do you think I did not WP:AGF with you? I could have undone your edit, but instead chose to notify you of your mistake and politely ask you to correct it. I am not sure how or where you found that link, but that's a separate article, and not the link that was cited by the previous user. [21] --WrongDude (talk) 19:42, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Because you claimed I didn't read it. My fault is that I found the wrong link, which I did read. dougweller (talk) 19:46, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Well, you hadn't read it. I didn't mean to offend you or anything, I had no way of knowing that you had read a different article by mistake. --WrongDude (talk) 19:57, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the explanation. dougweller (talk) 19:59, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Wikileaks Edit
I am new to editing Wikipedia so forgive me if this isn't the best way to contact you. I have seen your notes on the editing of the wikileaks page. It was me that did them, I changed the link to a site which linked directly to the wikileaks article directly from it. Whereas the article currently there mentions the articles yet doesn't link to them. I have not intended to link to "racist" websites. Do you have any examples of racism in said website? Thanks for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maximumrebel1 (talkcontribs) 03:42, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Here is a link prominently displayed on the website [22]- and another 'useful link' as it calls it [23]. One a scurrilous attack on Martin Luther King, another anti-Jewish. The February archives have a disgusting cartoon about the Holocaust followed by a letter 'In defense of the white man'. I hope you see my point dougweller (talk) 07:57, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't see how the MLK link is in anyway "racist". It provides the facts and although those aren't heard in the mainstream media doesn't negate them as facts. Secondly, the Real Jew News is written by a Jew and is the World according to a Jew who had converted to Christianity. I also fail to see how an article that defends the white man is a bad article. It is from hardly a racist website so don't let the title throw you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maximumrebel1 (talkcontribs) 22:16, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
The MLK site is hosted by, you don't get much more racist than that. There is really nothing to discuss here. dougweller (talk) 06:03, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
So because it is hosted by, that automatically negates the facts? There most certainly is something to discuss here, I will leave you with a quote and hopefully some food for thought from a great American.
Anything supported by Stormfront is likely to be a tissue of lies. Patrick Henry I understand, at least during the years just before he died, was an opponent of States rights and a Federalist. There's no point in quoting him unless you also support him in that. dougweller (talk) 22:31, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Well since this is wikipedia, how about citing a source on the Patrick Henry Federalist issue. Also I find it very short sighted to say the least that since Stormfront promotes pride in white heritage than everything they support must be a pile of lies. Facts are facts regardless of who happens to host a website. I challenge you to refute any claims made on or on
If you cannot I see no reason why the truth should be censored here at an "unbiased" site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maximumrebel1 (talkcontribs) 23:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't need to, you need to justify itthat those sites meet our WP:RS policy. That's the way Wikipedia works. Go to WP:RSN and ask if you can use them. So, someone's not been telling you the truth about Patrick Henry either? The article Patrick Henry references Moses Coit Tyler's biography -- I've just read the relevant pages and fixed the citation, and it verifies it. So does the article The Republican Party in Virginia 1789-1796 Harry Ammon The Journal of Southern History, Vol. 19, No. 3 (Aug., 1953), pp. 283-310 -- eg Among those whose afterthoughts led them to regret their previous posi- tion were Henry Lee and Patrick Henry. By 1792 both had abandoned their opposition to assumption and adopted the view that it was necessary to support Hamilton's program in order to avoid civil disturbances. By the way, what you originally did was remove a reliable source on the story, replacing it with a source full of lies which only led to the Wikileaks site anyway. There was no point in that except to publicise the site, as it would have been easy to link to the Wikileaks site instead. dougweller (talk) 10:43, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
So your source is someone who was born 36 years after Patrick Henry died. How reliable. I am being targeted because I present facts that aren't nice. The current link in the wikileaks article is nothing but an attempt to get pageviews as well, his article doesn't even link to the relavent wikileaks page. The article is far more relavent and links right to the article in question. However obviously I am in a battle I can't win with a close minded moderator, I won't waste my time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maximumrebel1 (talkcontribs) 23:52, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Ironic. And Patrick Henry ran and was elected to the Virginia House of Delegates as a Federalist just before he died. But that's an inconvenient obviously proven fact that gets in the way of your beliefs. Yes, you are wasting your time, Wikipedia will simply not accept a hate site as a reliable source. dougweller (talk) 06:05, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
ChrisO talk page vandalism
Hey Doug, I just reverted more vandalism on the talk page of the IP you blocked for a week here. I don't know if you want to sprot it or what, but I thought I would let you know. Cheers. IronDuke 17:24, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Extended the block rather than prevented editors from using the talk page, I thought that was more appropriate as the edit made it pretty clear that when the block is released we'll get more. Thanks for letting me know. dougweller (talk) 18:18, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Lists of Jews
What is the purpose of such lists on WP?? List of West European Jews, List of French Jews, List of East European Jews.
Hi Cush, you forgot to sign. :-) I hate them. But see WP:Articles for deletion/List of Jews. I suspect an AfD on these would result in the same result, but who knows? dougweller (talk) 19:26, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
I misread the date, that's old. More research needed I guess. dougweller (talk) 19:50, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Blue Lacy
I am a Lacy family descendant and have worked really hard to help maintain this breed and it's rich Texas heritage. We work very hard to keep Internet information accurate regarding the history of the breed and it's originators. The author of this article is not just on wikipedia spreading misleading and false information with links back to their other web pages. I thought wikipedia was for accurate information. I tried to edit by striking through the incorrect information. That has already been reversed. There are legal actions pending on this authors group and this is just another attempt to try and gather credibility when there is none. The State of Texas has the true facts on the breed and if the page is to stay up, this is the reference and material that should be applied to the page. You can also reference the Atlas of Dog Breed of the world. Lacy do not have English Shepard and wolf.
The Lacy have not been accepted in the CDHPR or UKC at this time. There is much more and to a Lacy lover, this is just crazy. I feel wikipedia would want the true facts. Please let me know what is the next step to keep this information on wikipedia true and correct?
We are not seeking any group for reference, there are great references already with the State of Texas links and the Atlas of Dog Breeds of the World, ect… without trying to give credit to any Blue Lacy group. This new group is a fraud and I have documented proof if it is needed.
What can be done to help the Blue Lacy not to be misrepresented on wikipedia? --Bluelacy (talk) 16:55, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia is basically about reporting what reliable and verifiable sources have to say about an article, which is not quite the same thing as trying to represent the truth. You need to read WP:Reliable and WP:Verifiable to understand what these terms mean. Certainl the State of Texas would be accepted as a reliable source. It might also be ok to quote what kennel clubs other than the AKC have to say so long as it is clear that that is their opinion. Disputes as to what should be in the article should be on the talk page of the article in an attempt to gain consensus among editors. dougweller (talk) 21:45, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Your comments would be appreciated
As someone who has contributed to a thread about terminology on WT:NPOV/FAQ, I'd like to point you to a thread that attempts to bring the issue to some sort of closure, here. It's important we try and get to the end of this debate, so your comments will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time. Ben (talk) 08:00, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Happy Saint Patrick’s Day!
Irish clover.jpg
On behalf of the Wikipedia:Kindness Campaign, we just want to spread Wikipedia:WikiLove by wishing you a Happy Saint Patrick’s Day! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 15:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
User:Tiramisoo and User:GodivaCake
Note that following voting twice at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_March_12#Category:Digital_Revolution, User:Tiramisoo decided to do this. I'm not sure what to do. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 22:29, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
I've started a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Tiramisoo. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 22:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
ura lifesaver
Thank you, thank you,thank you. Phil_burnstein (talk) 09:54, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
your question
I completely rewrote the article Jewish commentaries on the Bible in my own sandbox. Instead of junking the old version, I decided to bury it somewhere underneath where my new version would be, blank it out and then move my new article to where the old one was. I asked at [helpme] over a month ago and whoever answered said I can just use <x,<c,<v. I left a note on the articles talk page saying where the old article could be found. I'm not sure what I did, and I don't know what should be done. Enlightenment is always welcome. Phil_burnstein (talk) 13:07, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
your question
Hi Doug Weller, I added the page "Scott Herford" that has been deleted without References from National Geographic Channel and Variety Magazine, Hollywood Reporter, I ask that the page be re-enstated. I have produced feature films distributed internationally and I hope this can be done.
Many thanks Scott
Scottherford (talk) 16:47, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Cooking dinner right now - look at your talk page in a couple of hours. If I just undeleted it it would be deleted again, I shall put it in your user space and on your talk page explain what you need to do. dougweller (talk) 17:57, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I've explained on your talk page now. dougweller (talk) 19:35, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Noah's Ark FAR
I have nominated Noah's Ark for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. --Vassyana (talk) 15:35, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Hiya Doug,
This is in reference to that Zodiac article. While checking its history, it seems the writer (CPlot) of that now deleted section originally wrote it as the Zodiac being around 4,000 years old. Then someone made it 5,000, and then later another made it 10,000. Then finally you and that other guy deleted that section altogether.
(As a sidenote, I believe CPlot largely wrote the main section "Zodiac celestial coordinate systems". I don't know if you'd delete that as well.)
However, my main concern is this: How can we detect micro-vandalism (a change of a date, name, number, formula, etc) especially if it gets BURIED under several days' (or even weeks') worth of multiple edits by different people? :-( Titus III (talk) 18:32, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
That worries me too. I almost always revert unexplained changes like that, especially if it's an IP who is editing, eg at List of Empires but also smaller stuff. I've asked if the new abuse filter will help [24] but that won't catch the buried stuff. I'll take a look at Zodiac again, thanks for pointingout about CPlot. dougweller (talk) 19:14, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
The Zodiac stuff is OR but I'm a bit loathe to delete it right now. CPlot was wrong about 4000 by the way. I may put a few sources on the talk page. dougweller (talk) 19:30, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks ...
... for the heads up. By the way ... any chance you would be willing to work on the "culture and language" section of the "culture" article? I put as much work into it as I could and there is where I ran out of steam. The trick is not to make it a section on "linguistics" of even "language," just what one needs to know to understand the role of culture in language and of language in culture ... without being too detailed! Slrubenstein | Talk 00:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
I really wish I could help, but it simply is not my field and I've got too many other things I should be reading up on (and have bought books to read for) to add this. Apologies. dougweller (talk) 15:26, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment
There's a related discussion in this section on ANI that is related. The discussion wasn't referenced on my talk page, but I thought you might want to know. Toddst1 (talk) 19:54, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
More Wikkidd?
I see you've been active with this. Per this diff, it would seem that User:OBlackthorn is a tad suspicious as another puppet. Tim Shuba (talk) 13:20, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Looks like he's using an IP now: User: - Μολὼν λαβέ 12:57, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Blocked him earlier. Thanks, if you see him again please let me know. dougweller (talk) 14:03, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
NPOV board
Thanks for correcting my note. On a completely unrelated issue, the BLP dispute at Gilad Atzmon is mentioned in an increasing number of places (BLP board (which is how I came across it), NPOV board, OR board, RFC, RFPP, etc), with so far very little success getting additional input. Any suggestions? Rd232 talk 13:27, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Using various forums is usually considered forumshopping, and the main place is the BLP board, so I really don't have any further suggestions, sorry. dougweller (talk) 15:25, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I know - it wasn't me that did that (apart from the RFC). The user that did it even posted at WikiProject Israel... I thought to ask (or perhaps just wonder out loud) as in 2 BLP posts I was the only new person to contribute. Rd232 talk 16:31, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
By the way, Rd232 has initiated an RfC on the Gilad Atzmon article, and your comments are welcome. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 16:09, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug. I see you've come across this user already. He seems some kind of Iranian chauvinist judging by his edits. I've asked him not to keep adding the Persian names for Najaf and Karbala irrelevantly to the middle of the article on Shah Ismail I but he's just done it again [25]. Could you revert this as I'm worried about crossing the 3RR threshold. Cheers. --Folantin (talk) 22:42, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, Doug. While you're at it, we have another editor User:Jackiestud adding some really cranky scholarship to the Berbers, Amazons, Mosuo and Kabyle articles (among others), trying to prove Berbers, Amazons and an ethnic group in China are all related and all matriarchal (it's all in the "Ama" of "Amazons" and "Amazigh" apparently). I've tried to explain this isn't exactly scholarly but she isn't having it. --Folantin (talk) 09:30, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
I use Google Chrome to edit (I always have huge numbers of windows open so my other browsers are not really 'available' as they have so many windows open'. Upgraded to the new Beta, no edit summary which is bad, bad, bad. I'll have to sort that first. Silly eh? dougweller (talk) 09:33, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
I've been following this Spider guy around and I've never seen such a blatant nationalist disregard for proper evidence. He just seems to make random stuff up to promote the glory of the Persians (e.g. [26]). I'm not sure any of his edits have been worthwhile. --Folantin (talk) 09:34, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Iam sorry, I Provided many, many sources for all those articles. What you mean by wrong? Jackiestud (talk) 11:32, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Wrong, as in not right. I see one of your reliable sources is a web journal studying Xena, the tv warrior queen. You really need to learn about reliable sources. dougweller (talk) 11:38, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
The german and french Wps DO NOT accept the amazons as "no breasts" --not at ll: "L'étymologie populaire admise pendant l'Antiquité décompose le mot en un ἀ- privatif et μαζός / mázos, « sein » en ionien : « celles qui n'ont pas de sein ». Elle ne repose en fait sur rien[1]. On a proposé de faire provenir le terme du nom d'une tribu iranienne, *ha-mazan, « les guerriers »[2], ou encore du persan ha mashyai, « les Peuplades [des steppes] »[3".
Are they also WRONG? Jackiestud (talk) 11:54, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
You left a new msg, I didn´t revert anything. Another provided source: (no Xena here). Jackiestud (talk) 12:03, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Um, the English WP doesn't accept the 'no breasts' etymology either. We don't use other Wikipedias as sources though, or assume that they are right. We don't assume our articles are right either. But the etymology in our article clearly does not argue for a 'no breasts' meaning. You are at 3RR at Amazons, read WP:3RR carefully. Avoid the article today. dougweller (talk) 12:07, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Iam not at risk with the WP:3RR, since I no longer reverted the page. Iam discussing it. I offered the Wps, two acholar sources, and two articles --and only picked the xena thing. Are these scholar, articles and Wps WRONG? Jackiestud (talk) 12:12, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
These are all wonderful sources and studies made by people who spend their life, money, time, energy to research with honesty --don´t you think it should be made available? Jackiestud (talk) 12:15, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
This discussion belongs on article talk pages, please. And we have to follow WP:RS, not our opinions of how hard working people have been. dougweller (talk) 12:18, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
This very academic, scholar philologist may helpe you forget Xena: Philology is also not without its interest in this matter. Mr. J. C. Prichard, quoting M. Venture, says that the Berbers (of unquestioned Asiatic origin) inhabiting the Northern Atlas call their language Amazigh, which has been translated as "the noble language." There have been some authors who trace the word Amazon from this term. However that may be, it is certain that these tribes of Northern Africa have bred many valiant fighting women. When in the seventy-seventh year of Hegira the Moslems under Hossan Ibn Annoman captured Carthage and sent the Imperial troops packing in hot haste to Constantinople, they suddenl.... Jackiestud (talk) 12:22, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Which bit of 'this discussion belongs on article talk pages' don't you understand? An early 19th century author (Venture) who thinks the Berbers are of 'unquestioned Asiatic orgin' is clearly not a reliable source. Please go to the relevant talk pages if you want to respond, I am going to start removing your edits from my talk page if you persist. And please be sure you understand what WP:3RR says. dougweller (talk) 12:35, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
This is ridiculous. There is little difference between this sort of willful ignorance and trolling. --Folantin (talk) 13:01, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
At the moment I will AGF and assume ignorance. But the editor has been pointed towards WP:RS several times, and if this continues we will need to refer it elsewhere. dougweller (talk) 13:18, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure the situation really warranted anything more than a month. Still, I'm not contesting your change. bibliomaniac15 03:21, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
external links
I'm not related to the website, just found the articles interesting in a sense that provide information about the political affiliations of those individuals. I read the WP:EL still, thanks for pointing it out. You were right about some of the sources. Just a note, although it's easy to scream about anti-semitism, I didn't see any hate or vulgar language anywhere. Unless of course is prohibited to state that someone was in fact one. I hope not. Wikiboomboom
Responded on your talk page with a note about one article in particular. Dougweller (talk) 17:58, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
This article does not seem to be notable. Can you check it out, see if it is notable or speedy deleted???? Teeninvestor (talk) 01:00, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
I usually don't touch that sort of thing, but it was only Myspace, etc, so I've speedied it. Got the book but it is disappointing, the articles are not comparative, just about a specific aspect of one empire. I'll look in more detail but that is the design of the book. Dougweller (talk) 06:15, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
That's too bad. in the meantime we improved the format of the article a bit; there's no hurry. I'm involved in writing user:Teeninvestor/sandbox/Economic history of China anyhow.Teeninvestor (talk) 22:09, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Just1Word is NOT a social networking site -- it is something new on the web. It's a mashup of the Bible, social networking elements and a topical search engine for the Bible. Unlike some of the other bible sites, Just1Word is completely a ministry site without a theological position that it is trying to advance. It is not attempting to bring new community to people like social networks, but merely utilizes tie-ins to the social networks to allow people to discuss the bible.
In addition, Just1Word does not push a particular version of the Bible but rather has all of the popular versions available and uses a random one for new visitors. Unlike most of the other Bible sites which are owned by for-profit entities, Just1Word is not-for-profit and has no ads on its site.
Neither does it post teaching or allow others to post teaching that can be seen by everyone on the site.
I hope this helps explain the background. I'm new to Wikipedia and am trying to figure out the best way to provide helpful additions to some of these posts -- but in no way do I want this to be perceived as spam or some type of commercial outreach.
Any advice that you provide would be appreciated. Thanks.
Bryan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bpmiller (talkcontribs) 16:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
First, if it is your site, read WP:COI and don't add links to it. Secondly, it is still a social networking site, almost all social networking sites have other features. Debate started here [27] Dougweller (talk) 16:26, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Earth Hour
Earth Hour has been taken over by AGW activists and they're using it to advance their partisan POV. The are undermining the credibility of Wikipedia by deleting "opposing" contributions. Thus I am attempting to maintain the integrity of Wikipedia by adding balanced content related to the topic. If you believe that my addition is POV, then you're supporting the POV of the surrounding content and the actions of the WP activists. Or possibly you are being contentious, which is contrary to WP's intent. I'm going to replace the wrongly deleted content, so please leave this content within Earth Hour because it is factual, notable and balanced. I really don't like arbitrary censorship, especially on Wikipedia. Bushcutter (talk) 16:42, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
It isn't censorship, it is saying you need to follow our guidelines and policies. This has had an insignificant amount of coverage in comparison to Earth Hour, thus it is barely worth a mention if even that. 'pov edit' is really shorthand for breaching WP:UNDUE in most cases and in this one although it was also a comment on your deleting a section and calling it nonsense. 'Balance' depends on weight, and the weight of HAH is insignificant. Dougweller (talk) 16:56, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Excuse me, but it is indeed censorship. It was clumsy, ham-fisted, ignorant censorship. All Wikipedians should be ashamed of such ignorant and boorish mob behaviour. Bushcutter (talk) 00:18, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Yawn. It gets really boring hearing people on the losting end of the process cry censorship. And you really should be careful about what can be construed as personal attacks. There's a process hammered out by long discussions, and it's being applied. Calling people names and whining won't impress, nor will unscientific assumptions that those you don't like are young. And you are treading on very thin ice right now, I suggest your rein in your rhetoric. Dougweller (talk) 05:03, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Of course, Dougweller, you were entirely innocent of such low, immoral, dishonest, and scurrilous actions and you should be praised for being such a paragon of Wiki-virtue. It was probably other villains who are clearly lacking in any moral direction who were responsible for this disgusting act. We all thank you for being so helpful in sorting out such a nasty problem, and we are begging your forgiveness for causing you to be exhausted and tired after thinking about this issue so much. I know that you wouldn't be like the other partisan admins who are just itching to ban anybody who complains. Wikipedia would be such a sensible place if only we editors would stick to approved topics. Please don't ban me, I beg you! I will never write on unapproved topics again! I promise to never again contribute to incorrect topics not approved by senior Wiki administrators. There's entirely too many people contributing to unapproved topics. I humbly implore you to use your high position to help me to stay listed as a humble and respectful contributor to approved topics. I will make every effort to stick to approved topics only. Please, I'm imploring that you forgive any who incorrectly complained about the ignorant, disgraceful deletion of the unapproved Human Achievement Hour article! I should have known that Human Achievement Hour was not an approved Wiki-topic. I'm on my knees, and tears are running down my cheeks, begging you to allow this simple uneducated scribe to continue editing. Please don't ban anyone! I promise to confine myself to supporting approved topics such as Global Warming only! I know that you are powerful and can ban anyone with a snap of your fingers, so I promise for the next 12 months to only write supportive statements about Earth Hour and never again mention Human Achievement Hour if only you will not take me to admin-court! Please! I beg you! Bushcutter (talk) 16:55, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Great, I'm glad that you realise that whining, attacking other editors, and then shooting yourself in the foot is a bad idea. It's reassuring to know that if you want to be blocked or banned you know exactly what to do. Dougweller (talk) 17:03, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Human Achievement Hour
• It was deleted through the correct process. It should stay deleted unless the next process, DRV, overturns the original decision. This is nothing to do with censorship, this is to do with Wikipedia processes. And looking at the DRV right now, it looks as though the original decision will be endorsed. DRV is not a means of getting 5 days more exposure for an article, or a repeat of the AfD, it is there to review the AfD process. Dougweller (talk) 06:05, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Earth Hour
Thank you! Grundle2600 (talk) 17:26, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Stop redacting criticism entries. Don't you get that there is already enough suspicion about your actions? Your the worst most biased admin on this project. A criticism section is there for, you guessed it, criticism. Trying to make it look small as possible and erasing counter information is censorship. I'm suggesting you be put up for review because of your actions on Human Achievement Hour and your censorship in Earth Hour. Thehondaboy (talk) 17:54, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Funny. You are trying to bypass the AfD and DRV process and when other editors (plural) don't let that happen you get all shirty. You also need to read WP:UNDUE. Dougweller (talk) 17:59, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
No, Thehondaboy your edits are irrelevant and not constructive to the article, you are skating on thin ice, pal. If you put him up for review, I will testify for him. Your doing fine Dougweller Creez34 (talk) 19:15, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
DITO and thanks (Dougweller) for cleaning up the article a bit since yesterday. ;) --The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 19:36, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Pakistani nationalist IP (talk · contribs) is insisting on adding irrelevant mentions of Pakistan to historical articles which have little or nothing to do with the term. I caught him at it on Nader Shah (18th-century Persian ruler who invaded India) where the relevant contemporary states and regions are Safavid Persia, Mughal India and Afghanistan (then a region divided between the two). Post-1947 events in the sub-continent have little or no bearing on this piece of history and vice versa. Judging by his contributions log and a message I've received from User:Gurkhaboy, he's been at it on several other articles. --Folantin (talk) 08:52, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Hildegard Hammerschmidt-Hummel
Hi, thanks for your remarks. I wont revert her anymore. I may raise this at the Fringe theories board, but it is a difficult issue. Hammerschmidt-Hummel is a relentless self-promoter (if you can bear reading the article she has written about herself you will see what I mean). Art historians completely reject her approach, which contradict all established methods. But to rebut her additions would just take yet more space devoted to s fringe source. She does have a genuine, if relatively minor, academic career but is mostly good at getting herself into newspapers and magazines, which means she can cite her own promotional statements, often published uncritically by magazines. Demonstrating the fringe status of her views is a thorny problem within WP policy. Paul B (talk) 12:53, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
talk page
Doug, I appreciate what you are doing but it looks to me like Populares is a classic disruptive editor using a SPA, and also clearly making personal attacks ... you are removing evidence of this and maybe the thing to do is get to the root of the problem. Slrubenstein | Talk 16:40, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
It has to be removed, but it is still there in the history and my diffs are easily found if necessary and will be evidence if it comes to that. And it sends Populares a very clear warning -- I'll take him to ANI if he does it again (I'm involved, so couldn't block him myself). Dougweller (talk) 16:59, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Pyramid construction
I realise that Houdin's theory on Egyptian pyramid construction techniques has only been published for 3 years, but a huge amount of work, by trained architectural minds and specialist 3D CAD builders has gone into it. It's already been re-published with another author. It's far more significant than either the kite-theory or (almost certainly) than the limestone concrete theory. If you don't like some of the evidence for it (other pyramids have internal ramp, the notch, shadowed ramps) then by all means put scare-quotes or similar round them, but don't simply take them out. MalcolmMcDonald (talk) 17:16, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
I've put it back, for some reason I thought it was longer than it is. However, I've also added some citation requests which I hope you can meet, and removed the word 'significant' as it isn't our role to decide what is significant or not, just to report what reliable sources have written. Dougweller (talk) 17:36, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Ancient Egyptian Religion
hi Doug, I have left a note on the articles talk page regarding the edit you have just undone, hopefully you can point out the error of my ways. Taam (talk) 18:26, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Thank you
... for fixing this blunder. I think the problem was that instead of writing "{{subst:DATE}}" for the date parameter in the {{fact}} template, I apparently wrote "{{subst:date}}" instead.
David Wilson (talk · cont) 19:10, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
No problem. Dougweller (talk) 05:04, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Wittenberg University
(Samual890 (talk) 03:49, 30 March 2009 (UTC))
Hi, I was wondering if Wittenberg University can have their article back to editing. Currently it is semi-protected and I don't think it should be blocked to the public for as long as it has been.
I don't see any sign on the talk page that the edit warring will stop. Dougweller (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
It seems to have stopped. But other people are not able to edit anything on there and that's just not fair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samual890 (talkcontribs) 06:56, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
I still see a lot of argument about possibly copyvio pictures. Dougweller (talk) 07:20, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
(Samual890 (talk) 07:25, 30 March 2009 (UTC)). Oh haha, I wanted to add some pictures and I needed advise on how to do it. And there were some pictures I asked if I could use and he told me I wouldn't be able to post them. That's all. Nothing serious. I promise no intention to do any copy right.
Alan Cabal
To save the discussion clogging up ANI, I've sent it to DRV where you might want to comment. Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2009_March_30#Alan_Cabal. Black Kite 12:43, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. It should have gone there instead of being recreated anyway, I thought that 'new information' was a good reason to ask for DRV. Dougweller (talk) 13:35, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Offer of help re neutrality
I tagged an article, Nathan Salmon, for neutrality because it contends that he successfully argues against Kant (and Fripke, too, I think), but there are no objective citations beyond his own work for making that claim. I think it would be better to state "he argues against Kant," rather than that he bested Kant (I'm butchering the language of the actual article, but if you have time, go look at it - I am practicing my biographical skills here). I did an article on John Collier (anthropologist) that I do not believe has any neutrality problems, but I have gone from occasional grammar-checker to article-editor and need all the help I can get. Thanks for any you can give!--Levalley (talk) 02:39, 31 March 2009 (UTC)LeValley
From Twinsday
Can you please clarify what article you were refering to? Page moves are automatically labeled minor, not under my control. I tried to undo a page move one time, but it didn't work. I think you have to ask an admin to do it. --Twinsday (talk) 07:06, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
All of your edits are marked M, check your preferences, it's a tick box there. And the article is Giza Necropolis- I've raised the issue on the talk page. I presume you think that that is it the most common name used? Dougweller (talk) 08:29, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Please put ISBN numbers in book citations and not links to Amazon. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 17:44, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Thankyou - can you show me the proper way of dealing with all of this by reference to the MOS? MalcolmMcDonald (talk) 18:13, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I should have pointed you to WP:Cite - which doesn't mention the Amazon bit, that's elsewhere. I've rewritten the Houdin article a bit, it read more like a publicity brochure than a biography I'm afraid. There's also too much bio in the pyramid articles, which should only have stuff about his hypothesis, not about any of the history of how he got to it. Dougweller (talk) 18:19, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
If I have this right, I should leave out these links entirely, because I don't have copies of these books and I'm not citing them for anything. I agree that the Houdin bio was badly written. It's well referenced that he stopped doing regular architecture and one of my references describes his subsequent work as an obsession. MalcolmMcDonald (talk) 18:26, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Your references to Houdin's books where they are just general references need to go author book publisher, etc with the ISBN 13 number which allows people to click on it to find it. Where you want to make a specific point you'd need to cite the book similarly but with a page number. If you want to use a quote with 'obsession' in it from a WP:RS you can, but you shouldn't use the word without a quote or I guess a citation to a specific source (page number if a book, no page number if an article) - the ref could come after the word obsession. Dougweller (talk) 18:37, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
I think I understand now, the two books should be in the Bibliogr aphy at the end, not amongst the references/notes. They're there because, as you say, there could be too much biography in the explanation of the theory. But I'm not sure how much you can take out without upsetting the narrative of a rapidly developing piece of science. MalcolmMcDonald (talk) 18:47, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
366 degree geometry
So why do you keep the article "Civilization One"? It doesn't make any sense since this is just part of a broader subject, i.e. Megalithic geometry. So according to your logic "Civ. One" should have been deleted for a long time. --Little sawyer (talk) 19:15, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
I understand what you are saying. The logic isn't quite right, as I was talking about Wikipedia processes, and probably you are talking about notability. I haven't looked at that article for a long time, but I'll look at it again. They are different issues though. Remember, I'm not saying no article, I'm saying that the original issues need to be dealt with, and that WP:Fringe is relevant and would need to be applied. Dougweller (talk) 20:48, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Is this article really current and objective?
I can't really imagine an unbiased article failing to comment on or direct a reader to this page on the Chronognostic website:
I'm not a wiki member and I don't add edits, but the absence of this reference in the article is, to me, conclusive evidence of its bias. I find it hard to believe anyone can read it and still find a colonial origin for the Newport Tower credible. Is that why it isn't in the article?
On the basis it says the tower was "probably not built in the 17th century"? Even they aren't willing to say more than that, despite a convoluted argument that it may have been a complex form of observatory (although there is no evidence of any pre-colonial community or agriculture that would have made it useful). There are two links to the website in the article and a mention that having failed to find any archaeological evidence they were concentrating on astronomical alignments (and we don't 'comment' on websites). Dougweller (talk) 08:39, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
No-one can make a cogent argument that the alignments in the tower all happened by accident although the article now says they could have been with no support. Certainly your use of the term convoluted is not neutral, there is nothing convoluted about the piece at all. It is very straighforward and all the measurements are replicable. This wiki article inherently assumes that all of these alignments happened by accident the probability of which is impossibly small. I really believe the neutrality of this article should be in dispute.
Of course they could be there coincidentally, you can find all sorts of alignments in buildings. The Chronognostic people don't deny the possibility it is 17th century. If you don't like convoluted, then complex. There is no way the argument can suggest that they are correct, that's not the role of an encyclopedia. I also suggest you read WP:Fringe. I don't see much interest in their argument, certainly no WP:RSsaying that they are correct. Dougweller (talk) 11:58, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Date autoformatting poll
Hi there, Doug! I noticed that like me, you are opposed to any form of dates autoformatting. I have created some userboxes which you might like to add to your userspace to indicate your position. You will find the boxes here. Ohconfucius (talk) 06:47, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Hey - you deleted my contribution, OUTSCAN does infact detect the Conficker Worm and I added a source - this should not have been removed. Why did this happen?
Lokacit443 (talk) 08:59, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Because this is an encyclopedia, not a how to do it website. Everyone would be advertising on Wikipedia if they could (not saying you work for them). If Outscan were notable, like Norton, just maybe, but the article isn't a directory - see WP:NOTADIRECTORY for virus checkers. Dougweller (talk) 09:23, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
your question
If you do start deleting single handing, do not be surprised if I check every delete that you do. It won';t be meant personally. The overwhelming consensus has been against this in the past--you might want to check the CSD talk archive. DGG (talk) 16:00, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Go ahead, I'd only do it for something like a blatant attack page against another school kid. Normally I'd just tag it myself and let another Admin make the decision. That is, of course, why I asked. The guidelines do seem to say it's ok though. Dougweller (talk) 16:35, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
that sort of thing is another matter. I do it then too and so do all admins--I hope. Even if we changed the guidelines it would certainly permit such deletions. The question is about doing it routinely. We can do a great many things that are actually unwise. BTW, you left a note on my talk p. that I do not understand. 16:46, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Refers to a G4 speedy. I take your point about the difference between 'can' and 'it's a good idea to do it'. Dougweller (talk) 16:51, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Dougweller -- This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Tang Dynasty regarding an issue with which you were tangentially involved in February 2009 -- see Can a book in Chinese and only available in China be used as a reliable source?.
To clarify, you are not the subject of this ArbCom process, but the thread in which you participated was identified as relevant by one of the parties -- see here.
You have no obligation to do anything in this context. Thank you. --Tenmei (talk) 01:35, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Re: Francesco Carotta
OK, I will heed your warning. In fact I stopped reverting to the mini version when it became clear that it was not supported by the third, neutral user. I do tend to get carried away sometimes. Iblardi (talk) 17:08, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Please explain why you reverted
my edit per this diff? I'm rather puzzled by the decision to undo a well-sourced contribution.—S Marshall Talk/Cont 00:03, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Weird, I remember the wording of my edit summary, something about Chambers not being a good source for this and needing sources from Biblical scholars. Especially as it contradicts the Info box, did you notice that (although if you see my User page, I really don't like Info boxes. I think my edit summary -- which clearly didn't work although I always try to use edit summaries when not dealing with blatant vandalism -- also said something about needing some discussion. What I didn't point to and should have is that there is a discussion of the dating, and your dates don't match with that discussion either - so we might have ended up with 3 conflicting statements about dating. I'd be interested in how details the Chambers discussion is about the dating and if it at all matches with the discussion in the article. I guess if Chambers does give some detailed reasons naming names of scholars, it could be used as a source for what they have to say, does it do that? But the article does need to be consistent. Dougweller (talk) 04:51, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
I agree that the article needs to be consistent, but what it needs to be consistent with is the sources. I think that if there's genuine controversy about the dating, as in this case, the article should contain a frank discussion of the controversy including well-sourced statements for different mainstream points of view. I certainly feel that removing a sourced statement because it conflicts with other sourced statements is POV (because it promotes one side of the discussion over another).—S Marshall Talk/Cont 12:00, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Why do you think Chambers is a reliable source for this specific biography? That does give some reliable scholarly sources, what sources does Chambers use? I don't see this as POV as I don't see the argument as trying to give a specific date or prove historicity. This should be at the talk page of the article, I think I'll move it there now. Dougweller (talk) 12:03, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
That's reasonable, I'll respond there.—S Marshall Talk/Cont 12:07, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
I fixed your edit to Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2009 April 5. ;) Verbal chat 14:53, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Payback, eh? Dougweller (talk) 14:54, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Three Mile Island accident
FYI, User:Cde3 seems rather to have misinterpreted your civility warning. [28] Rd232 talk 16:50, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Um. Cde3 response to your clarification. Rd232 talk 19:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
First of all, teh artciel doesnt offer any source. Why should I ? The links posted tehre are NOT from acedemic source...So... There is this Dictionary: --it´s much better than the offered source posted there. Is it good for you? Jackiestud (talk) 21:18, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Ransom Everglades
Doug - I don't understand your comment on the Ransom Everglades talk page. I guess I blissfully assumed you would agree with me. Weren't you amused to see the '59 yearbook ? Distinguished editor ? So, how about letting me revert this guy's edit... GroveGuy (talk) 22:33, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Did you miss seeing this message ? GroveGuy (talk) 16:09, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Could you take a minute to consider this issue ? GroveGuy (talk) 19:32, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Oops, sorry. Dougweller (talk) 21:17, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
You really don't want to mention Miami? Why is that? That's brilliant that you found that picture. There were only 11 of us (and I was at least a year younger than the rest and it shows). The staff -- I was taught French with a southern accent (with quite a shlur (a slur under the influence) and a history teacher who simply read us the textbook. I still managed to get into Yale though, so they must have done something right. Dougweller (talk) 21:25, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Please read all the stuff I put on the RansomEverglades talk page. I think the telling point is that RansomEverglades own web site says "Coconut Grove", no mention of Miami. For example: By the way, when did you live in the Grove ? Your uncle lived on Leafy Way; didn't you always live in the Gables ? I am amused you thought that picture was "brilliant". How about this one: Anyway, the RansomEverglades article was fine the way it was and doesn't need a reference to Miami. GroveGuy (talk) 22:39, 6 April 2009 (UTC) GroveGuy (talk) 01:50, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
When I was a kid, long before Ransom, but really this is getting into a lot of personal information that really doesn't belong here. I'm quite happy to chat with you via email so long as you tell me who you are, otherwise, and I mean this in a friendly way and I really appreciate these photos and am intrigued as to why you have them, can we please stop this chat as it's inappropriate? As for the website, it doesn't have Mami in the address, no issue there, but it does talk about community service to the Miami community and has this statement "This partnership has really built a leadership class for the city of Miami-bringing new leaders of Miami together." Dougweller (talk) 04:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Patriarchy: hebrew word
...but attested in the 4th century for the headship of a Jewish community, from the Hellenistic Greek term for such a community leader, πατριαρχης. Jackiestud (talk) 16:31, 6 April 2009 (UTC) Jackiestud (talk) 16:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
This paragraph has a source, a footnote. Jackiestud (talk) 16:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
You don't even have that!
I've no personal opinion on the subject. Regards.--Againme (talk) 16:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
No problem then, just leave it out as there's no sources linking the phrase with the authors in the article or that I know of. If you find some of course, great. Dougweller (talk) 16:41, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
3RR report
Are you preparing it or shall I? --Folantin (talk) 16:49, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, done. Wait to see what happens. Dougweller (talk) 17:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
It usually takes a couple of hours. --Folantin (talk) 17:25, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Brazilian national anthem You can read our anthem, teh translation shows that PATRIA is homeland. Jackiestud (talk) 16:54, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Which is irrelevant. You've been reported for edit warring. Dougweller (talk) 17:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
portuguese is latin, as much as french, italian and spanish. If dictionaries, and teh natinal anthem can´t prove the etymology of pater >> patria >> homelad >> country >> paese (which we say país or pátria) >> pagan...who else could do it? Jackiestud (talk) 17:05, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I believe a long block is in order, given that he repeatedly added links to that BLP-violating gossip site despite being warned. However, indef seems a bit too harsh considering he hasn't been blocked before. I'm willing to cut the block down to a week, with a warning that the next block will be indef if he does this again. That sound reasonable? Blueboy96 19:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I only indef'd because I thought just a block wouldn't change his behaviour, I didn't see it as a long block. If he shows that he understands why and agrees not to by all means reduce it or just unblock - I've said that on his talk page. But so far, he seems to think he's done nothing wrong. Dougweller (talk) 21:15, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Carotta promotional tour continues
The Carotta circus of IPs from Germany has now moved to Divus Julius.--Folantin (talk) 19:45, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Schidel's book
If you have time, would you mind adding a few citations/text from that book? thanks. I've been working on another series of articles that will be done in about a month(Economic history of China), so I didn't notice the storm in a tea cup at Comparison between Roman and Han Empires. Good thing it's taken care of now.Teeninvestor (talk) 21:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
"Worst Instincts: Cowardice, Conformity, and the ACLU” by Wendy Kaminer
I hope I am entering this question in the appropriate place and manner. If not I apologize in advance. Did you add the Kaminer book to the ACLU's page? It was my understanding that you said you would. However I can't locate it. I would also like to request that the page be unlocked so that I, and others, can make my own/their own edits. Can I unlock it or does it take an administrator to do that? Thank you for your assistance. I have also reworded my entry on the talk page and am requesting to know if any other editor has the right to remove my entry there. Thank you. Sennasay (talk) 06:13, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Also in trying to understand what happened on the page I now see that you wrote on the talk page "I see no reason why the book can't be added, if I have time I can do that today." I totally agree. Of course there is no reason that the book can't be added. However, the book is not on there and also your comment was removed off the talk page, which led to my misunderstanding of what had happened on the page. Sennasay (talk) 06:31, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Forgot to do that. I didn't protect the page but I can edit it. Only Admins can unprotect it. I'll have to look at the talk page again. I myself sometimes remove obvious soapboxing about the subject of an article, and as I recall some of your edit was that, but the request isn't an unreasonable one. Dougweller (talk) 07:33, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Semi-protection on ACLU
Hi, you recently unprotected American Civil Liberties Union which had been semi-protected for some time, mostly to guard against a single IP-hopping vandal. Well, a couple of hours after the wall went down, he returned. Other than permanent semi-protection of the article, what would be the best course of action with this vandal? AI/V doesn't work as he changes IPs with each post (although they are all within a certain range, it's far too broad of a range to block entirely). --Loonymonkey (talk) 14:20, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
I was the one who protected it last as well. I think permanent semi-protection is the only option here, I don't know of anything else that can be done, especially with the sort of edit summaries he leaves. So, I've semi'd it indefinitely again. Dougweller (talk) 14:32, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Anna Baltzer
"Sponsors" are a secondary source which give the subject notability. Other notables: Jewish-American but pro-Palestinian, a rare combination. You shouldn't assume "you don't want a welcome template", just like to keep my talk page clean after reading. Would like to continue talk some other time. Henry Delforn (talk) 14:37, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
I don't know the details, but they still fail WP:EL. BUT -- if they mention her, you might be able to use them as references within the article. If they don't mention her, then they are of no use. Have you read our guidelines on notability of people? You are using notable in its everyday sense, but for her to be notable for an article, she has to be notable according to our guidelines. Fine to keep your talk page clean after reading, it is understood that by doing that you have read what was there. Dougweller (talk) 14:52, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Question about your deletions in chronological matters
From Chronic2 (talk) Greetings Doug. I see you want PiCo to emend several items regarding Biblical chronology. From what I have seen, PiCo is not knowleadgeble in this field. Perhaps you are not aware that the significant advances in this field have all come from "conservative" scholars. Are you familiar with the work of Coucke, Thiele, Kenneth Kitchen, and McFall? The work of Thiele and Coucke that discovered the basic principles of the Hebrew (and ancient Near Eastern) chronological methods has been verified by several discoveries that have appeared since Thiele formulated his chronology. I know of no such success by the "mainstream" chonologists (who are they?) whose views you want represented here, in contrast to those who you label as "Creationist". I can list the successes of the conservative scholars, these are verifiable and falsifiable, and recognized widely even by those who share PiCo's bias against anything that might lend authenticity to Biblical accounts. If you want an example of PiCo's lack of knowledge in these matters, please refer to his "scholarship" in entering statements that are not even backed up by the one reference he gives in, for example, the article on Deuteronomy. PiCo is not aware of, or chooses to ignore recent and well-established scholarship because it conflicts with his POV. Can you justify this? I myself am cognizant of recent scholarship in these matters; because I present this, and because this recent scholarship favors in many aspects the evidence-based approach of Coucke, Thiele, and others instead of the presuppostional-based approach, should I therefore realize that this proven scholarship is excluded because it can be assigned what to you is a pejorative label?
If there is any appeal in these matters, I would request it be to someone besides yourself. Meanwhile, check out, as an example, the paragraph in the Deuteronomy article beginning with "More recently" that was entered by PiCo. The only citation he gives is to a Web page that apparently was a draft that never got published and never went through a peer review process, and furthermore his one citation absolutely does not substantiate the sentence it is attached to. Why not quote somebody who has really done a study on the matter of ANE treaties such as Kitchen? You may not read much in this area, but are you aware that Kitchen is cited more by Egyptologists of every kind when it comes to matters of chronology than anyone else, no matter what their views? Have you read the SCIEM volumes where this is shown to be the case? Will you rule out Kitchen and McFall and probably myself because you have an idea that anything contrary to your POV is not mainstream? Is there any point at all of my entering properly cited scholarship, only to have it rejected because it does not fit your POV?
Because I think it is important, let me conclude by asking again: Can you cite any demonstrable and verifiable success in the field of chronology by those scholars you favor that compares with the successess of Coucke, Thiele, and McFall that you want to denigrate as "Creationist"? Their accomplishments in this field have been verified by subsequent archaeological findings, unlike the basically unfalsfiable circular reasoning of those who follow the ever-shifting viewpoints of the documentary hypothesis and its offshoots -- or would you also rule out what Cyrus Gordon and other scholars have said in this matter? Chronic2(talk) 13:59, 7 April 2009 (UTC):
Correction from Chronic2 (talk) -- Sorry about this. I realize now I should have put this on your talk page, not your main page. Please feel free to delete this from here and put it on your discussion page instead. Don't just label my concerns as "tendentious"; they need an answer if general readers are to have any confidence at all that there is fairness in this area of Wikipedia. Chronic2 (talk) 14:03, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Where did I suggest that anyone but Young was a Creationist? Why shouldn't the article cite what Lipinski says about not knowing the length of Solomon's reign for certain? Have you read WP:NPOV? Has someone found archaeological evidence for Solomon's birth and death dates that I've missed? Have you noticed I asked several people to get involved, hopefully all with different viewpoints? Thiele, Ktichen, etc must be included, but so do those who aren't 100% with them. Dougweller (talk) 15:12, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
From Chronic2 (talk) Thanks for mentioning NPOV, which of course I have read. What I see is repeated abrogations of this policy in order to establish just one side. I have no objections at all to quoting Lipinski; I do have some questions about citing questionable scholars such as Aardsma that PiCo used in order to counter the views of Bryant Wood in the article on Wood. Aardsma's views on chronology are that there are 1000 years missing from Israelite history; do you know of anyone besides Aardsma who advocates this? Yet you allow this to stand, and even defend it if anyone tries to change the Wood page. There too, PiCo gives a quote that "Wood is wrong on all four counts". This is left to stand as if an authoritative statement on the matter. What if I were to enter Wood's answer to these four points, as published in BAR, and not just available on a Web site like Aardsma's view? Wouldn't PiCo speedily delete the citation as "tendentious", and wouldn't you support him? If PiCo can make such generalities and they not be excluded as unsubstantiated or violating NPOV policy, why then can I not enter properly cited answers in order to balance PiCo's view?
I agree with the NPOV policy. Now look at the Deuteronomy page. Third paragraph: two viewpoints of what "scholars" think are given: either (1) the bulk of the book was composed in the late 7th century BC, or (2) it was composed later than that. Where is any presentation of the alternate viewpoint, presented by many first-rate scholars from the 18th century until now, that there is concrete evidence that favors a date in the mid-fifteenth century BC? Will they be ruled out a priori as 'unscholarly'? Would not fairness dictate that at least their viewpoint needed to be presented in Wikipedia, in order to let the reader decide which is the more reasonable position, and thereby truly have a NPOV? What will happen if I put in citations from such scholars -- will they not be deleted immediately?
Also in the Deuteronomy article: in one place a conservative scholar is mentioned, in the paragraph beginning with "More recently." No citation is given to his work. The language is condescending: he "wished to restore the case for the book's Mosaic provenance," implying that the case had been lost to the erudite scholarship of Wellhausen and followers, and here was someone trying to "restore" it. Where is there any recognition here that the case for Mosaic authorship had never been "lost"; it was defended, and still is, by eminently qualified scholars? But these are apparently not to be read, or not to be considered as "scholars." There are about 4000 members of the Evangelical Theological Society and if they were not hypocritical in signing the membership statement, none of them believe that the book of Deuteronomy is a lie fostered on the people by fraudulent 7th-century writers, as De Wette and Wellhausen taught. Full members of the ETS have a ThM degree or higher; they publish extensively in peer-reviewed journals and write books published by the major publishing houses. Are not their views entitled to a place in Wikipedia if NPOV is to be maintained? Let me repeat: it is such scholars who have made the major contribution to the chronological aspects of Hebrew history, not those who follow Wellhausen.
Look again at the same paragraph; do you respect the scholarship that says "Wenfield's position is the more commonly established"? The citation given does not mention Wenfield anywhere; how then can it support that statement? Was the editor who put this in unaware that Wenfield, in the face of evidence, later changed his views so that they no longer support what the author of that Web page is saying? Why has there not been some objection to this kind of writing in the Deuteronomy article, but instead the objection is against anything that tries to balance it?
In the same article: "Polytheism was a feature of Israelite religion down through the end of the Iron Age." A citation is given from John McKenzie. This is only one side of the question; how can this be defended as NPOV? A very cogent argument can be made against this, but again will not anything contrary be deleted?
You apparently realize that the Rehoboam article presents concrete evidence from scholars like Frank Moore Cross, William Barnes, and Gershon Galil for the correctness of Thiele's method of arriving at the date of Solomon's death, and some of this evidence, starting with Liver in 1953, is an independent verification of the basic correctness of that date. Why do you think this needs emendation by the kind of scholarship that PiCo brought to the Deuteronomy page? Should not Wikipedia users have the right to become informed on such important developments that substantiated the scholarship of Thiele and those who followed him? If something is wrong with the scholarship, the have someone qualified discuss it on the Talk page, but don't just arbitrarily delete what is well documented just because it does not support your POV. Contrary arguments are welcome, if properly cited. But Wikipedia readers need to have a fair presentation of the reasons and solid scholarship that went into establishing the of dates for Solomon and Rehoboam.
I know you can summarily dismiss these objections and tell me to stop being so wordy. But please answer the question you did not answer before: do you think that PiCo's entries in the Deuteronomy page are defensible and NPOV, and that they are consistent with asking him to change pages on chronology and ancient history so they will be consistent with his view?
Again, sorry I first put my comments in the wrong place, and thanks for fixing it. Chronic2 (talk) 17:06, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
I don't have that page on my watch list and really have enough on my plate right now. Cross, Barnes, etc. should be included, I agree. But I don't want to be dragged into an argument about a page I'm not involved with, and I have no intention of defending any particular editor including PiCo. I just know him as an energetic editor who I sometimes agree with and sometimes don't. I simply posted to 3 editors, one, not PiCo, has responded. Wikipedia probably works best when people with different points of view are editing. Ignoring the chronological stuff, the Rehoboam article was written from an in-universe pov and needed work to make it NPOV. It also needs to show every significant opinion. And I hope you are not saying that Lipinski should not be used but Young should be used. Dougweller (talk) 17:27, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up. The article could certainly do with some attention, and I might look at it soon. PiCo (talk) 23:57, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
OK. Thanks for reminding me. -Zhinanzhen (talk) 16:45, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
I have reverted the parts you reverted by providing notes. -Zhinanzhen (talk) 16:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
o. I know. -Zhinanzhen (talk) 13:39, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Doug, the person attacking the Hassnain page has left a message stating he believes Hassnain is anti-Islamic...or words to that effect. I see we have a major problem escalating here. He has been posting from the New York Public Library so he cannot be traced or blocked. I am asking you to freeze the Hassnain page (after being sure the attacks are removed) I have checked the page half a dozen times today and removed the same remarks again and again. This is definately another Paul Smith kind of mentality at work. The same poster has been prowling Wiki and making similar posts everywhere.. Please advise and help us. Thank you, Doug.SuzanneOlsson (talk) 16:34, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Doug...every day same attacks on Hassnain page. I am asking you to please freeze the page to prevent this ongoing vandalism. Thank You SuzanneOlsson (talk) 21:55, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Time for a Swift half
Some Irish nationalist IP is het up about Jonathan Swift and violating Godwin's Law like there's no tomorrow. Objects to the existence of "Anglo-Irish" even though we have a dedicated article on the subject and the description of Swift as thus is clearly referenced to Britannica. See article talk page and my talk page for details.--Folantin (talk) 16:47, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Ignore. He's just been blocked. Cheers. --Folantin (talk) 16:49, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Sea glass & user
Actually what that user added a few days ago were external links to which were deemed spam by other editors, what the user deleted was an acceptable EL, please see Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests#Please_Help_With_the_Sea_Glass_and_Sea_Pottery_page. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:59, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Given the tiny number of hits on Google, it looks like it falls into the category of "Links mainly intended to promote a website". But go ahead, put it back if you want. Dougweller (talk) 17:20, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
No, I'll leave it as it is. there's enough edit warring going on there. Thank. Jezhotwells (talk) 02:51, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Reversion logic
Okay, that works, too. (Talk:Logic) --KP Botany (talk) 20:53, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Somewhat disappointed to find he's on the side of evolution, though. --KP Botany (talk) 21:18, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Too often I find myself blocking or reverting when I agree with them, but that's life with Wikipedia. Dougweller (talk) 21:19, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Hassnain Vandalism
Doug...every day it is the same...I just removed another vandal attack. Pleease freeze the page...otherwise this will never end. Thank you.SuzanneOlsson (talk) 21:58, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Can't do it. That's nothing, it would have to be much, much more than that for protection to be appropriate. Sorry. It really gets very little vandalism in comparison to a lot of other articles. Dougweller (talk) 04:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Happy Easter!
Hase mit Ostereiern (2).jpg
On behalf of the Kindness campaign, I just wanted to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Happy Easter! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 07:46, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
As the Wiki-Kapo Dieter Bachmann has censored my answer to you, Doug, please find it in the sci.archaeology Google Group. Vive the Liberty of Speech ! And Happy Eastern ! Template:Marie-Rose, April 12, 2009
francesco carroti
Can you please check, I think user 78 just violated 3RR Slrubenstein | Talk 21:37, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
As you probably know, blocked and refusd an unblock. Doesn't understand or care about consensus, but the main problem is that the editor is (AGF here) on a dynamic IP. We'll see what happens, but I presume it's the same editor making all the personal attacks, a customer of Kabel BW. As I was involved, it's better that someone else did it anyway, besides the fact I wasn't around. Dougweller (talk) 04:54, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Jean Faucounau
You've got to hand it to this grapheus character, he means business. I don't think I have been called "Badman" since the Hindutvavadi trolling opera back in 2005-6. And not even they went as far as composing an acual Níðvísa. I think that people who are mad enough to air their anger in the form of poetry deserve some sort of respect. I think the last time I saw this sort of poetry was in the Rydberg case back in July, where I see I noted the similarity of character in the local crank there, one William P. Reaves to Jean Faucounau. Although in the case of Reaves, the Níðvísa was all at the expense of Reaves. These characters seem to thrive on Usenet, and if nothing else Usenet seems to find its justification in giving a purpose to picturesque crankery such as this. I find it remarkable that perfectly sane google groups users should indulge in playing hide-and-seek with Jean Faucounau over the question of his identity with "grapheus" literally years after any reasonable doubt has been cleared.
Now Wikipedia started out in 2001, full 22 years after Usenet. If Wikipedia has grown into an extremely useful repository of information while Usenet remains the same shapeless heap of random flamewars it is because we stop prancing around with the Reaves and Faucounaus of this world when we run out of reasonable doubt that they might yet contribute anything useful.
Now since we are already plunged back into JF's world, it may be worth reconsidering the merit of the Proto-Ionians article. It was created in an attempt at "appeasing" grapheus by covering his stuff somewhere on Wikipedia. Applying WP:NOTE in the light of day, however, we find that the entire article derives its claim to notability from two scholarly notices. I enjoy the mentinon of grapheus in article space, wryly;
In a less academic mode, the internet troll "grapheus" has advocated Faucounau's theories over Usenet, becoming notorious in the process. Posting from Luxembourg, and admitting to personal acquaintance of Faucounau, he has been suspected to be an alter ego of Faucounau's,
But I do not think this is really in any proper sense Wikipedia-worthy. --dab (𒁳) 08:36, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
I've been dealing with Grapheus since at least 2001 on Usenet. As for their identity, this 2004 exchange might amuse you [29]. There was an exchange last year between Grapheus and Eisenberg (calling himself antiquarian but not trying to disguise who he is). [30]. As for Proto-Ionians, Google books seems to show up enough so that the article should exist, but why does it credit the idea to Faucounau? This [31] dates it to 1887. Maybe it just needs to be rewritten. Dougweller (talk) 11:31, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
I've seen that 2004 thread. Doesn't grapheus just glow with pleasure as soon as he finds himself in the center of attention. This is why WP:DENY works. The troublemakers usually just want to be noticed. Roll them back without comment and they will bugger off sooner or later. Even Ararat arev seems to be bored now, and even grapheus would have a hard time matching that sort of dedication to the cause. Seeing that Wikipedia's note on grapheus was useful to Eisenberg in the 2008 discussion, maybe we should keep it around. But you are right that we should put the article on proto-Ionians on its feet. --dab (𒁳) 13:19, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Looking at the evidence, "Proto-Ionians" seems to have been a concept briefly involved in the "origin of the Greeks" debate, apparently introduced in 1887 as you say, and surviving into the 1920s until the decipherment of Hittite had become universally accepted. The term of course also crops up incidentially in discussions of the Greek dialects, simply denoting the earliest point in the Ionic Greek dialect. My suggestion would be that we need a comprehensive origin of the Greeks article, which will of course include Ernst Curtius. Faucounau can be a humorous footnote to Curtius in that article. --dab (𒁳) 14:31, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
That sounds a very good idea - would it end up as a battle ground? And I have to admit I know nothing about the origin of the Greeks. Dougweller (talk) 15:10, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! "Young at heart", I'm sure Wetman meant to say. Johnbod (talk) 19:25, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Sofia Shinas redux
[32] Just to note, I don't think anything was added prior to this change. It appears that the persondata was never removed. Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:37, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Ah, my bad. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 07:11, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Re: Alexander the Great image
Originally there was a mosaic at the article, and User:Kurt Leyman said that it wasn't accurate, and put a bust image instead, but many editors (myself included) didn't like it, so we made this RfC which had quite a good support for using the mosaic instead of the bust. Now Kurt has found a new bust image and is trying to use it instead of the mosaic.
To make a long story short, Kurt thinks that articles about historical figures should have accurate images, which, according to Kurt, means having a certain bust on the infobox. The problem here is that Kurt has been told repeatedly that there are no accurate depictions of Alexander and that those busts are fugly anyways while the mosaic is more famous than any bust, is cool-looking and depicts a famous battle.
From a short look, it seems that Kurt is also trying to push his favourite images in other articles like Justinian, see User_talk:Kurt_Leyman#Image_at_Justinian, and Claudius image change first revert second revert.
Personally, I think that Kurt is trying to impose his personal aesthetic preferences over the consensus of other editors who don't like some of his choices. /me thinks that Kurt makes a good work, it's just that he keeps trying to make an image changes at certain articles when he is told that it's not a good change and that he should leave the original image. --Enric Naval (talk) 07:27, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
P.D.: I opened a RfC on the image at Justinian I and left a message on Kurt's page here about abiding to RfC results, please correct my post if I came out too harsh or something. --Enric Naval (talk) 07:47, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I understand now what's happening. By the way, please, please, 'faggotry' shouldn't appear on talk pages, right? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 08:01, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
your recent revert
Hi, You edited a page and changed "ancient" to "greco-roman". I think Ancient is correct and most likely refers to pre-Roman era. And the source you gave there does not use "greco-roman". Would you please give source for "greco-roman". --Xashaiar (talk) 08:56, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, should have changed that to Greek, although that's what the Romans called it also. Dougweller (talk) 13:43, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
ANI fails again
Hey Doug. If you're around please try to do something about this [33]. Another triumph for ANI inactivity. Five hours and no response. --Folantin (talk) 17:31, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
request for advice
I'd appreciate advice on some articles in which you've had some degree of involvement. You recently indicated (on the serratiopeptidase talk page) some level of agreement with a suggestion that it might be good to have a main article about proteases in medicine, along with redirects from names of individal examples of the materials. After all, I might have enough time to try and do something useful about these subjects. But I'm not very experienced in Wikipedia, and overall, this would end up as a sizeable number of edits, changing relationships between articles. In view of this, I'd like to steer a course that won't contravene WP policies or points of WP-custom or etiquette.
As an example, would it be ok to create, first, a new generic article on 'Proteases in medicine' or (perhaps more descriptively) 'Proteases in medical and related use'? (Btw, I looked at WP:SINGULAR, it seems 'proteases' here may be ok as a 'small class' plural title, but have I got that right?)
The generic article would have to be provided with relevant citation-sourced encyclopedic content, of course -- and perhaps a talk-page explanation why it is notable? If that could be an acceptable way to start a revision-process, then maybe a next step would try to slim down unencyclopedic material in the articles about the trade-name examples, and to link them using cross-references to the generic article, before initiating discussion about whether they deserve to be kept? Or should such change be started some other way? I'd appreciate a steer on this. Thanks in advance, Terry0051 (talk) 19:06, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Start it in your user space. If you copy and paste from other articles, in order to maintain a history link for the GFDL licence, put the linked name of the article you are copying from in the Edit summary. The article itself should have references showing it is notable, the talk page is for discussion of building the article. I'm not sure about Protease vs Proteases, but that can be changed when the article is moved into article space. Dougweller (talk) 19:14, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. There's a draft in User:Terry0051/Sandbox, and any views would be appreciated. Terry0051 (talk) 00:09, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Can you help us with this?
Oops. Can't think of anything, that was a problem before I think. Sorry. Dougweller (talk) 20:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
would you please comment
Hi, there was a request here. I was warned and the other user not. I looked at some wiki policy/guide pages and I could not understand why the comments like 1: So I appreciate being able to make a few improvements without some little <valued editor> throwing rocks at me. and 2: ..I'm sick of having to deal with this harrassment, bad faith and ownership from someone I suspect is a diehard "Persian nationalist" (he seems to have a problem with Turkic influence on Iranian history - always a telltale sign), who is often incapable of communicating in clear English. can be ignored and the user is not warned? These comments are uncivil and accusing me of being nationalist.., aren't they? Thanks.--Xashaiar (talk) 20:37, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Oh, so you're still following me around. Turkic? Why else would you remove this [34] when it's perfectly well sourced (if you could be bothered to read the second paragraph). Plus, this reference to "turkic world" completely out of the blue on the entirely irrelevant subject of not using Modern Persian script for Parthian and Sassanid kings [35]. I wasn't born yesterday. Every editor with a clue knows there's a big feud going on between "Persian" and "Turkic" POV-pushers. --Folantin (talk) 08:21, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Atlantis, Northern Spain
Thanks for the deletion and the notice ("these are your personal comments and thus don't belong in the article")
The comment is directed to Paul H. I have already referred to his discussion page, with complete text and all the arguments and references to values. --Pacoortunno (talk) 11:03, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Battle of Qadisiyyah
hi, please check my response to your post. Thanks[36]
Mohammad Adil (talk) 14:47, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Mehrdad Izady
He is a controversial figure, a bit of a revisionist, and certainly not a reliable source on historical issues. Not long ago, there was a detailed section on him on the fringe theories notice board with many examples. [37] --Kurdo777 (talk) 16:59, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Actually there is no thread there, there is only one person's commentary. What I see here is a pov nationalistic argument, Mehrdad Izady clearly has more credibility among academics than say Kaveh Farrokh, who is used as a reference on Wikipedia. Being controversial or revisionist doesn't make him not a reliable source (remember, we have our own meaning of reliable source). I've never heard of him before yesterday and so far as I'm concerned if you can use one kind of nationalist as a source in an article, you can use another. The funny thing is, the editor who added McKiernan didn't notice that McKiernan uses Mehrdad Izady as a source. Dougweller (talk) 10:31, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Actually, the commentary in question is supported by evidence, and I see nothing nationalistic about it. I am not sure who you are directing your comments at, but Kaveh Farrokh should not be used as a reference either, nor should McKiernan who is a photo journalist. I have never argued to the contrary. Bottom line is that Kurdistanica (a user-generated non-academic private project) is not an academic source, and does not pass the requirements of WP:RS. --Kurdo777 (talk) 14:59, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
It may or may not be supported by the evidence, I just meant it wasn't a thread, it was just what one person said. The problem is that Farrokh is used on quite a few articles, and when I removed McKiernan I was accused of pov editing (weird as I have no pov on this). I presume there is a basic difference between Kuristanica and the Encyclopedia Iranica (if I have its name right)? Thanks. I wasn't directing my comments at you but at the editors who reverted me. Dougweller (talk) 15:46, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Farrokh isn't a WP:RS either, so he should be removed. Encyclopædia Iranica is a peer-reviewed academic project of Columbia University, and a published Encyclopedia with over 50 heavy weight scholars from major universities contributing to it. Irannica is not in any way comparable to Kuristanica which is some random user-generated website with a nationalist agenda, and only an Encyclopedia in name. --Kurdo777 (talk) 18:26, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I thought the Iranica was very different, good to have it confirmed. Trying to remove Farrokh from articles where he is used as a reference - see [38] runs into a lot of opposition from nationalists, who insist he is a famous scholar. Dougweller (talk) 18:33, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Mr. Farrokh is not a reliable source on historical issues , I removed him from the history-related articles. --Kurdo777 (talk) 18:45, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
I saw that. Good work. One comment, after fact, put the month and year, thus: {{fact|April 2009}}, I can fix that tomorrow. That means if someone comes along in a couple of months or so, they can remove the unsourced statement (which could be done anyway of course). Dougweller (talk) 20:44, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll fix the tags. By the way, check these links [39] [40] . The actual number of contributors to Iranica is over 870 scholars[41] from a variety of world's major universities. They have over 40 consulting editors too [42], such as Stronach, Boyce, Schmitt etc. --Kurdo777 (talk) 23:39, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Personal attacks
Is Populares' latest comment on Talk:Francesco Carotta, in which he writes that "you should consider that you are now no longer quoting a libelous statement but making one yourself", a personal attack for which he can be warned? Or is falsely accusing someoneone of libel not grounds for an npa warning? carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 18:09, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for making the warning. I know for future reference I can warn for that manner of comment. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 22:03, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
No problem, see the blocking Admin's comment on his talk page. Dougweller (talk) 05:06, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
I notice that you recently blocked Davidx5 (talk) for two weeks. This person also operates without signing in. He made at least a dozen stupid, vandalistic, and anti-Italian edits to the Castle page. Most of them were taken in good faith, because they constituted shoving in the mention of as many Spanish buildings as possible, regardless 0f whther it was appropriate to the sense. It was vandalism of a subtle sort. I suspect he needs watching all the time, but if he doesn't sign in, it's difficult. He is extremely cunning and gives very friendly innocent responses. Amandajm (talk) 10:59, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
I see you were fast too. I nominated Goran Marsic for CSD one minute, and the next minute you've already speedied it and blocked the user indefinitely. I'm nominating one of the user's other articles, George legget, for AfD as non-notable and a probable hoax: I'd love to CSD that one too, but it makes a doubtful-but-I-can't-prove-otherwise claim to significance, and the rest of the information may or may not be true, however non-notable the subject is. Let me know if I'm wrong on that one. Sheesh, you don't waste time, do you!
However, his article on Mark Nielsen (tennis player) was about an actual New Zealand tennis player who got caught up in a drugs scandal. There should be news articles about Mark Nielsen on New Zealand news websites, but I'm not sure how well he'd stack up against WP:NOTABILITY. Let me know about that one, too. Cheers. Liveste (talkedits) 11:15, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
I speedied that as an unsourced attack page. If it had had sources, I would probably have left it or taken it to AfD, and of course someone can recreate it. I did look up Leggett and could find nothing, but the key thing there is that the links were all fake. There is an oops there, it was prod'd while I was in the delete page. I hate it when that happens, it's happened to me before. Dougweller (talk) 11:21, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I can't be bothered collecting sources to restart the Nielsen article, so I'll leave that for someone else. Thanks for the Legget article though – one less thing I have to worry about. Cheers again. Liveste (talkedits) 11:33, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Darko Trifunovic
Doug, you contributed to today's BLPN discussion about Darko Trifunovic and Scott's stubbing of the article. Could you please - as an uninvolved outside party - take a look at my comments at Talk:Darko Trifunovic#Stubbing and let us know what you think? -- ChrisO (talk) 20:33, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
anything wrong with the IP tracking system?
I received messages that said I've done destructive edit to pages Ozymandias Sovereign state Belfast and Pharaoh, where shows my correct IP ( Of all the pages I only touched Sovereign state and corrected a crosslink to the Chinese page (and it's not been reverted as claimed). You can check history of other pages for sure. The thing is that I am sure this IP is mine and is not dynamicly assigned, I did not shared the address with anyone either. What could be the reason for those nonexit "disruptive edits"? (talk) 19:20, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Operator error, sorry, removed. Dougweller (talk) 13:28, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Help on RS queery
Hi, I'm posting to some uninvolved editors who have been active at WP:RSN to see if there is any clear consensus on some sources used on a BLP. The discussion is pretty brief but I'd like more opinions to ensure a strong consensus is reached one way or another. If you have time please visit the thread so this could be more quickly resolved. Thank you in advance for your time. -- Banjeboi 20:38, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug
User:Markacohen's block is going to expire in a few hours, and i hope you keep an eye on him. What makes me think that he is not a Jew at all but a kind of "agent provocateur" is his claim Leuchter is an engineer [43], a claim that has been debunked several times in court and elsewhere and is held up only by fellow Holocaust deniers ([44]). Cheers, --RCS (talk) 13:17, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
No problem, did you see my edit on his talk page? Only that one link makes me unsure. Interesting about the engineer bit. Anyway, I will definitely be watching him. Dougweller (talk) 13:29, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Re: Electromagnetic therapy
Thanks Doug. I was about to blow my stack. Thanks for having a look, I'll go and calm down! Apologies and thanks. Verbal chat 17:18, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
No problem. Patents! Dougweller (talk) 17:21, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
But wait - Einstein was a patent clerk. Clearly this means that everything approved by any patent office ever represents the highest caliber of scientific research and the pinnacle of human understanding for all time. - Eldereft (cont.) 17:40, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Umayyad Caliphate
Dear Doug,
I updated some information for the above topic. I added some information about Umayyad administration. Since I'm new here I don't know how to add citations. However I got the information from a book that I read. Title: Arab Muslim Administration Author S. M. Imamuddin D.Phil. (Calcutta), D.Phil. & Litt. (Madrid) Professor of Islamic History and Culture University of Dacca
I would like to know if information from books can be added. If not I can remove what I've added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wisenheimer2 (talkcontribs) 11:24, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Umayyad Caliphate
Dear Doug,
I updated some information for the above topic. I added some information about Umayyad administration. Since I'm new here I don't know how to add citations. However I got the information from a book that I read. Title: Arab Muslim Administration. Author S. M. Imamuddin D.Phil. (Calcutta), D.Phil. & Litt. (Madrid) Professor of Islamic History and Culture University of Dacca
Sorry forgot to sign.
Wisenheimer2 (talk) 11:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I see no problem in using the book, but you'd need to put the relevant page numbers in. So, <ref>Imamuddin, S.M. ''Arab Muslim Administration'' Kitab Bhavan, 1984 ISBN: 9788171510566 p.123</ref> It's the 113 digit ISBN number you should use, and surrounding the name of the book 2 apostrophes on each side, not quotation marks, so it shows up in Italics. Some articles use a different citation method and you should make sure you use whatever has already been used, see WP:CITE. Let me know if you need any more help. Dougweller (talk) 15:44, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Ancient Roman society article
OK I figured this out. The Ancient Roman society article was a part of a bold edit I made to the Ancient Rome article by splitting it. The split was reversed and a discussion begun. It was determined that even though an automated suggestion had been made to split the article, it was not needed. Both myself and the editor that reversed the split failed to remember to have the new portion of the article deleted after the reversal. For that I will take responsibility, but it was not a copyright violation nor a copy paste from an outside source. It was a simple situation that is in no way related to the merge issue being discussed. That is a seperate issue for Admin to decide.--Amadscientist (talk) 00:42, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I am awarding you this barnstar
CleanupBarnstar.PNG The Cleanup Barnstar
While I disagree with some parts of what just occured, it did help to figure out why a duplicate article was still around. It can now be cleaned up and reduces unnecessary articles. Amadscientist (talk) 00:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I had a problem with the business of how to attribute copy and paste when I first started, now that I understand the problem and reasons I'm more aware of how often it happens. Dougweller (talk) 04:19, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Pater familias Patriarch and Paternalism
I'll see what I can do (don't have much time available now, though...). I've also contacted User:Velho (he knows his Latin). See you soon. The Ogre (talk) 01:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
It´s the same meanning you can find on Oxford English Dictionary. Jackiestud (talk) 13:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
pls do check the same source at the Oxford English Dictionary. Jackiestud (talk) 14:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
The OED in my lap says the English word pater comes from the Latin word pater and that pater familias comes from the Latin meaning father of the family. It does not link either with the word 'pagan' which you are trying to do, it says 'pagan' comes from the Latin 'paganus'. Dougweller (talk) 14:09, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Ok, but where does pater come from? Comes from patris, which in latin and in my mother language, portuguese (latin), means country, village (pagus, pagan)!! In portuguese we say patria or pais (or paese, or pagus) for country! What for you may saound strange or new for me is obvious. Jackiestud (talk) 14:18, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
But even your source does't back that up [45] -
the English word pater
derived from the Late Latin word pater (father)
derived from the Greek word pater, πατήρ (father; a 'father' (literally or figuratively, near or more remote))
using the Proto-Indo-European prefix pəter- (father) You still haven't undone your edit, and if you don't you will probably be blocked. --Yes but you can slo see there are many derivatins, and they all point to patria (or country) or paese. Jackiestud (talk) 14:36, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Dougweller (talk) 14:31, 6 April 2009 (UTC
Look again, you have it backwards, patria comes from pater. Pagan is from a different rootăgân.html Dougweller (talk) 14:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
1. --As ou can see country for paese
2. --For pagan --pagus (village; country district, community, canton)
3. --And pagan from paese also --paganus (pagan; countryman, peasant; pagan; of a pagus; rural). Jackiestud (talk) 14:47, 6 April 2009 (UTC) --Here, ou can see it better: the Late Latin word patria (native land; home, native city) derived from the Late Latin word pater (father) Jackiestud (talk) 14:49, 6 April 2009 (UTC) -Patria, pais (country) are synonymouswith pagan. Jackiestud (talk) 15:10, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Patria comes from pater, yet you wrote in your edits "The word pater comes from latin word patris so is this a change of mind? You then make a jump to paese which is not so far as I can see etymologically related to pater. You don't seem to have found an etymological relationship, and paesa comes from pagus, not the other way around. And right or wrong, you broke 3RR and I am asking you to revert so you won't be blocked. Dougweller (talk) 15:29, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
"Patria comes from pater." Yep, just as the English word "fatherland" comes from "father" not the other way around. I know of no etymological relationship between "pater" and "pagus". --Folantin (talk) 15:35, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
[edit conflict] Hello, I saw this popping up on my watchlist. I am not sure what exactly this argument is about, but pater (and derivative patria) and pagus (and derivative paganus) are not considered relatives of each other. The first is a basal word that appears in many IE languages (Greek pater, Gothic fadar, Sanskrit pitar etc.), while according to the Thesaurus Linguae Latinae the second derives from the same root as the verb pango (to fasten). Paese in its turn comes from pagensis, an adjective deriving from pagus (as does paganus). Iblardi (talk) 15:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. And if either of you can please help sort out Patriarchy and Pater familias where in both cases Jackiestud has breached 3RR I'd appreciate it. I've put some of the earlier stuff above on the talk pages of both. I presume all this etymological stuff was constructed to make some sort of pov point. Dougweller (talk) 15:47, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I couldn't get back earlier, but I see that the problem is already being managed. Iblardi (talk) 06:11, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
The word pater also means territory --what we call territory is nothing else but country or paese. Jackiestud (talk) 16:16, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
The link ibetween these two words is the LAND, the territory, the country --or THE EARTH. The jews were the first ever to appear with this word due to the religious persecutions they suffered (check Joseph Campbell) --they lost their territorial identity. Jackiestud (talk) 16:20, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
He says patriarchy is a Hebrew word? Look, you can make all the connections you want, but without a reliable source, please don't put them in Wikipedia, and please take this to the article's talk pages. Dougweller (talk) 16:24, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
It´s written on the article: it first appeared among hebreus. It´s written on the article. By the way another source Paternalism and country. Jackiestud (talk) 16:27, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Another source we can't use, see WP:RS. And the article does not say the word appeared among the Jews. Again, this should go on article talk pages, you need to revert as I'm getting tired of asking, I'll just report you. Dougweller (talk) 16:35, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Patriarchy: hebrew word
Why did you delete this? Jackiestud (talk) 16:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I can't answer for Doug, but it makes no sense to randomly list every language that every translated the word "patriarchous" from the Greek into some word in their own language. That would be maybe 2000 languages, each with a different date. What matters is the origin of the word and in English Wikipedia, when it came into English. That's why it doesn't belong in the article, footnoted or not - it's off-topic. That's my view, and I think it's based on lots of copyediting and wishing there were fewer tangents in Wikiarticles.Levalley (talk) 22:05, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Etruscan civilization
Stop reverting, i'm adding references and sources to the article and i'm also merging stub and clean up pages that fits perfectly in the article. This is a new layout, yes. But its better written and better referenced and sourced. + you're reverting back to an article which have has its own page, all the former information of the origin section has its own article now. Stop please, this is a plea. --Trust Is All You Need (talk) 16:32, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Do you ever read your talk page? I'm not the only one expressing some concerns about your edits. You need to add citations as you edit, use edit summaries, not copy and paste from other articles in a way that bresks the citations, not copy and paste from other articles without an link to the article in the edit summary, etc. I'm reverting because I don't think you are improving the articles. Please also read [46]. I'm glad to hear from you here, as I was wondering what would be necessary to get you to respond on your talk page. Hopefully now you will start to respond. I'm trying to add material as well as reverting what I see as bad edits. Dougweller (talk) 16:51, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
I've added more references, check for yourself! in total their were 5 references in the culture section in your revert now its over 10. Why is this? its because i'm adding references NB! I don't copy and paste from articles, but articles that are "badly written," "stubs," "un-referenced," and "needs serious attention from an editor" should either be merged or worked on! You can re-establish those articles if you want to!! This page needs its short badly referenced and lacks any meaningful information. Yes its a historu article, but compare to other history articles. Its not in "shape". I'm not merging articles because i "like it," but because their is no need for articles which are short enough to add in a section to the "mother page." As said before, you can re-establish the page when you expand it and add meaningful references to the page. Okay? --Trust Is All You Need (talk) 19:11, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
You simply can't do mergers like this, read WP:Merge. I'm not arguing against the mergers, yet at least, but the way you are doing them isn't allowed. So, I'm undoing them. Don't revert me, merge properly if you want to merge.
You can't remove contant, wiki rules. Remember what you TOLD me! --Trust Is All You Need (talk) 19:26, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Take a look at the etruscan civilization page now, i keep the my own section headings okay? --Trust Is All You Need (talk) 19:43, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
I haven't thought much about the headings. I will say that DBachmann has a lot more experience of editing historical articles than either of us. Dougweller (talk) 04:17, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
WHY IS MY USERNAME AND MEMBERSHIP BEING DRAGGED INTO THIS????? I have nothing to do with merging articles. Mr. Weller, your bringing up my suggestion of spliting the Ancient Rome article from last july as suspicious or in someway related to what happened to the Etruscan Origins article is incorrect. I hhave nothing to do with this current situation and I would ask that you look closely at this situation as I am not involved.--Amadscientist (talk) 22:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Ok now I gather, thanks. Of course you had nothing to do with the current situation, the article was mentioned by the editor merging the Etruscan articles. Dougweller (talk) 04:17, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
The headings comes frmo the Ancient Rome article which is a GA, i'm modeling the page after it. --Trust Is All You Need (talk) 08:10, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
They are probably ok, the Origins ones are not. Dougweller (talk) 08:50, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Okay no problem, i'll try to be more friendly. One question, if i keep up expanding and cleaning up the article would that mean that the article could stay? Sorry for the bad english --Trust Is All You Need (talk) 13:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
The origins article? I think it depends upon what it contains and what other articles do. I can't say more than that right now because everything seems up in the air a bit. Have you read WP:CFORK and, more to the point here probably, WP:Summary which discusses splitting articles. I've dealt with pov forks before where someone wants more or less a duplicate article but from a different (usually fringe) point of view, but that's not the issue here. Read them, see what you think. I haven't a definite opinion right now. Oh, don't forget to start responding to comments on your talk page in the future, please. And next time you want to do a split, bring it up on the talk page, maybe even the appropriate project page. Could save a lot of hassle. Wikipedia's a learning curve, right? Dougweller (talk) 15:15, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Okay i understand. And yes Wikipedia is a learning curve! --Trust Is All You Need (talk) 15:41, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate your concern, "busybody" may be too personal a term to use (though I do feel there are better things to do on Wikipedia than object to perfectly fine five year old article) but next time, lose the patronising tone of voice. "welcome to wikipedia indeed. --Martin Wisse (talk) 12:03, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Hm, that's Twinkle, not me. Shame it says that, maybe I should suggest a better wording. Dougweller (talk) 12:24, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
but, I think we should link his ZO History Book( free),BURMA-AND-INDIA.pdf in the ZO/Chin related articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmlug (talkcontribs) 17:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Democratization of the Afterlife
I wasn't sure where to ask about this, as there doesn't seem to be a lot of Ancient Egyptian expertise on Wikipedia, but you're a member of the Ancient Egypt project and are an academic of some sort, so…
I'm trying to write about Egyptian afterlife beliefs, but I hit a roadblock with the "democratization of the afterlife"— the process in the First Intermediate Period and Middle Kingdom in which the Osirian concept of the afterlife gradually extended to all classes of society, and not just the pharaoh. The trouble is, it's difficult to write about this without talking about what the Egyptians believed would happen to deceased nonroyals before the democratization, and I'm not clear on what those were. Courtiers had their own mastabas and even commoners were buried, so they must have had some beliefs on the subject. I've looked through Google, but what little information I found was vague and sometimes contradictory. (My worry is that even the experts are still arguing about this, in which case I'm really in trouble.) Anyway, if you know anything about this or know of any sources on the subject, please let me know. A. Parrot (talk) 20:50, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Join this mailing list: [47] - be sure you read the charter (it specifies how you sign it, etc). YOu should get help there. Dougweller (talk) 21:12, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Your response is awaited at Talk:Love & Gravity. I suggest you help me build the article to good status rather than defacing it. Constructive criticism is welcome, but I consider mass deletions from misinterpretation of policy as nonconstructive. I feel I have made progress on the article after stumbling aross the stub. I am a new user, however I have been a reader for years and have edited anonymously, so I understand policy and how things work around here. Perhaps instances of unnecessary original research exist in the article, but the concerns about excesses of information is not valid. This is explained on the talk page. Thank you.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 18:32, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Could you please point to where I made a "personal attack".--Lost Fugitive (talk) 18:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
I stand by the statement. I do not believe it was necessary to add that many "fact" tags. And I believe that this action defaced the article. This was not a personal attack. On a side note, you really should archive this page, it is difficult to use.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 18:57, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
I am trying to get through to this editor that their additions are almost entirely unsourced, laden with original research and so forth, but they won't listen. I was the one who put on all the {{Fact}} tags, which I think were appropriate. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Many ottersOne hammerHELP) 20:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
You know...
Instead of filling up the edit history with a number of small edits, you could have edited them in one big edit...2012 Doomsday prediction --Ssteiner209 (talk) 22:41, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
You must have the wrong editor, I have no idea what you mean. One reason for small edits can be to give an adequate explanation, of course. Dougweller (talk) 05:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
A request for your consideration at Talk:Cro-Magnon. Cheers, — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:26, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Joseph and Imhotep
I would like to resubmit this article once I have sorted out the issues with the references.--Drnhawkins (talk) 02:49, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
I was disturbed about the comments of other editors that the bible is not a reliable source to clarify historical issues even on Biblical Characters.
Some of the Books of the Bible represent the historical records of Israel for that period (eg first and Second Kings, Chronicals). In fact most books of the Bible contain historical information that can often be varified in non biblical literature. There are not many other books of that vintage that have been preserved so well. The bible is primarily a record of God's dealings with man, in particular, Israel in the Old Testament and the Gospels and the Gentiles in Acts and the Epistles. It contains reliable historical information and discusses places, people and events that are mentioned in non biblical manuscripts and heiroglypics.
Obviously, it is necessary to quote the Bible when discussing biblical characters, sites and events. (should it be a note or a reference?)
I understand that a reliable source is required to support any correlation of Biblical Characters with other Historical material.
When editing, can I make changes to the comments of others in articles. Otherwise, how can an article be improved or tidied up?
I suppose it is not fair to do this in a discussion page. But people did it to me first! I won't do this again.
Articles are not meant to be discussions and it is not considered good form to put your name in article anyway.
When is a change considered vandalism and when is it not.
For example, my edits of the article on premillennialism were removed and called vandalism.--Drnhawkins (talk) 02:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
My article on Joseph and Imhotep was not original research. It has been suggested by many others, most notably Ronn Wyatt who has conducted considerable research on this topic. Wikipedia does not regard him as a reliable source even though his works are being increasingly recognised (Mt Sinai, red sea crossing at Nuweiba, Gulf Aqaba). Now some Israeli Rabbis claimed to have recovered the ark from tunnels under the temple mount and the Israeli government has allowed the Wyatt team to reopen his excavation of calvary. The red material that was analysed and found to be living cellular material with 24 chomosomes turned out to be Chiton of snail origin - so he did not fabricate his findings - he just concluded wrongly as to what it was. This therefore does not invalidated any of his other work.--Drnhawkins (talk) 02:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Can I resubmit the article on Joseph and Imhotep once I have sorted out my references?
You have...
...mail :) WilliamH (talk) 12:43, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Uruguayan Civil War
Could you keep an eye on this (it's not the greatest article but I have it on my watchlist)? Anonymous IP (talk · contribs) edit-warring to remove reference to the Italian Legion which fought in this conflict, claiming (on the basis of no evidence I can see) they must have all been "Piedmontese" because Italy didn't exist as an independent state at this point, therefore Italians didn't either. News to the combatants, I imagine. I've added a clear reference but he simply reverted it. IP seems to have a troublesome history judging by the talk page. Cheers. --Folantin (talk) 12:53, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Figueira da Foz page. Technical Help.
The page Figueira da Foz has the edit buttons for first and second section at the the end of the second section and I'm unable to work out how to put right. Can you help? Deep Atlantic Blue (talk) 17:03, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Only by asking the question myself, it's a real pain but I've never bothered to try to sort it. I've raised it here [48]. Dougweller (talk) 20:53, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, It got done. Deep Atlantic Blue (talk) 23:22, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Very tidy!
I'm glad that the archiving system worked for you. :) I think of these things as magic. LOL! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:17, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
It is, isn't it - thanks to you. I see you have lots to keep you busy right now. :-) Dougweller (talk) 04:55, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Younger Dryas event
Hello, I want to point out that I disagree with your categorization of my contribution to Younger Dryas event as OR (and have therefore restored the content in question). Reread the paragraph and you will see that I have stated some facts that are obviously discrepant with the hypothesis, without advancing an argument or stating a conclusion. Even if you don't like the first sentence which puts the facts referred to in context, there is no justification for deleting the second sentence which is simply an unadorned statement of these facts. WolfmanSF (talk) 03:55, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
It isn't just me. I was responding to another editor's concerns, and a 3rd editor has now reverted your edit as original research and explained why on the talk page. Please read our policy (note not just a guideline) at WP:OR and especially the section on synthesis. You can also respond on the talk page if you want, but please don't replace it as besides being OR you now have 3 editors saying it shouldn't be there. Dougweller (talk) 04:55, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
And, in all fairness, I have one other editor who says it should be there. WolfmanSF (talk) 06:23, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
I'd missed that. He's wrong too however. Dougweller (talk) 07:49, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Doug, re "Dougweller (talk | contribs) protected 2012 Doomsday prediction [edit=autoconfirmed] (expires 21:16, 2 May 2009 (UTC)) [move=autoconfirmed] (expires 21:16, 2 May 2009 (UTC)) (Excessive vandalism) " -- it doesn't appear to be protected. •Jim62sch•dissera! 21:53, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you mean - it's semi-protected, so no IP or non-autoconfirmed edits are allowed, and there haven't been any since I protected it. Dougweller (talk) 05:34, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
The edit summary didn't say semi-protected -- I understand now. Thanks for explaining. Also, the cute little semi-protect icon is missing. •Jim62sch•dissera! 18:27, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
So how do I get the icon? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 18:47, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, Doug,
but if this doesn't make you cringe, it should at least make you laugh out loud. Cheers, RCS (talk) 20:40, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
I've just seen that and replied, but please, please, cool it. See the email button to the left? Dougweller (talk) 20:48, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
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Hello, Doug Weller. You have new messages at Moonriddengirl's talk page.
I did not appreaciate your threat
Doug--for you to come into a discussion that you know nothing about and say no threats have been made and then threaten to ban me is incredibly rude. Please refrian from such behavior in the future. Theo789 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theo789 (talkcontribs) 18:39, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Hardly much point in repeating myself, but I will. People aren't threatening you, they are warning you of what will happen if you continue the way you've been going. That's what I said. You appear to be ignoring that. Dougweller (talk) 20:06, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
By WP:ADMIN/WP:BLOCK standards I think you are an uninvolved admin. However, having you and not someone completely outside the matter make the block will likely just further Theo's blossoming persecution complex. JoshuaZ (talk) 21:20, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Possibly, but I don't think it would have made any difference. Dougweller (talk) 05:01, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Another IP on talk:Francesco Carotta
Hello Dougweller, could you take a look at this user? Iblardi (talk) 21:25, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, missed this. But the edits have been permanently deleted now, they aren't available in history. Dougweller (talk) 19:21, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Triple Goddess / IP / Moonie
Hi doug. thanks - I'd have missed the misaimed "moonie" reference if you hadn't pointed it out to me! I tend to get bored of editors who can't seem to do even a minimal amount of research to support their opinions. Hopefully we can encourage the IP editor to actually add something of interest to the article. --Davémon (talk) 19:16, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Looks like the editor may have meant Funk & Wagnall's online encyclopedia, but when he talked about getting them to create an article... Dougweller (talk) 04:55, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Doug- I've posted a (rather lengthy) reply on the Triple Goddess discussion page for you to peruse whenever you have time. tcob44
"Persian Imperialist" editor
Chae jung (talk · contribs) is the latest incarnation of the "Persian Imperalist" SPA (so-called because this editor, who uses various throwaway accounts to add the phrase "Persian Empire" to as many articles as possible). His latest edits at Afsharid dynasty have crossed the line, expunging any reference to the Turkic origins of the family. I think we need to crack down on this guy. I'll try to post his other likely incaranations in a bit. Cheers. --Folantin (talk) 13:59, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Others? Emperor 2345 (talk · contribs), Emperor of world (talk · contribs), Oghuz turkish (talk · contribs) - all probably linked to the Spider 2200 (talk · contribs) account (which, again, is probably someone else). --Folantin (talk) 14:03, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I've encountered Chae today. I see none of the others have edited this month. Dougweller (talk) 15:22, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Narmer Palette
transferred from my talk page for your convenience:
A little while ago you did a light edit of this article. I've just reverted this to an earlier pre-OR version, adding back as much of the good referenced stuff as I could (the OR editor is now indefinitely blocked for OR). I wonder if you'd like to look at it again? Thanks.Dougweller (talk) 11:37, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the inquiry -- I will, a quick look indicates some areas I would rework or restore. Hope to get to it soon. ---- 83d40m (talk) 16:20, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Biblical prophecy spam
Hi Doug. If you're around you might want to look into Tjwatgmxus (talk · contribs) and his talk page contributions. Cheers. --Folantin (talk) 16:43, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
It's the spam he's adding (and re-adding) to talk pages which is the main problem (per WP:TALK and WP:EL among other policies). --Folantin (talk) 16:52, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Final warning. Dougweller (talk) 16:56, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Good. Thanks. --Folantin (talk) 17:01, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Now back in IP form: (talk · contribs). --Folantin (talk) 17:14, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Both are blocked now. Dougweller (talk) 17:24, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
User:Drnhawkins/Sandbox/joseph has been restarted. LadyofShalott 13:02, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
What an incredible collection of unreliable "sources". --Stephan Schulz (talk) 13:17, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
It's a joke. Well, worse than that maybe. I see one of its sources is by Betty Rhodes, see some more of her racist website here: [49]. He also doesn't realise he's using our article on Imhotep. He's also got a stub here: User talk:Drnhawkins/Sandbox/joseph. Dougweller (talk) 13:11, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Do you think it's time to suggest page protection? I can deal with disagreements, incivility somewhat, and even a complete disregard for actually providing sources, but editors changing information so that sources are misleading, then it's time for more serious measures. It's clear he's not reading and editing for neutrality but just soapboxing. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 22:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
IHO means it means in honor of, I laughed my ass of silly reading that stuff, it's simply beautiful. What are you doing on my userpage anyway?--194x144x90x118 (talk) 16:27, 12 May 2009 (UTC) You know of a better abbreviation or what ever you call it for those words?--194x144x90x118 (talk) 16:29, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
I was thinking of IMHO. IHO works for that. I'm on everyone's userpage, I'm Super Admin! Dougweller (talk) 16:34, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Ron Wyatt
Ok, but let's cut all links to a minimum. (I think we need the official website as a minimum though)PiCo (talk) 11:25, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Cleaning up unfinished business.
Doug, just something that I forgot to do. I forgot to edit Dogon where we read: 'From 1931 to 1956, two French anthropologists, Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen, spent 25 years with the Dogon. After some 17 years they were both initiated into the tribe,'.
This is inexact. I don't know about Dieterlen, but the total amount of time Marcel Griaule spent among the Dogon, from memory, was 3 years. The dates refer to first and last contact, and an inference is made from this (25 years) that the two spent two and a half decades there. They didn't. Hope you can reword this. ThanksNishidani (talk) 13:48, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Time consuming but I'm getting there. Even harder will be putting Dieterlen's visits in, which of course were not as frequent. Dougweller (talk) 18:44, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
I have three questions
I made an edit today--one edit--to the article Carrie Prejean and have not made an edit to the article in days, but yet another editor reversed my ONE edit and then reported me on the 3RR notice board. I find this to be a clear use of Wikipedia to win a debate about article content and direction. Prejean was called a series of negative things by Perez Hilton, most of the words are contemptuous and vile, such as the b-word and c-word. There are editors that believe that each and every one of Hilton's use of those words MUST be included in the article about Prejean. Now, I don't see the need to have an article about Prejean dominated by the words and comments of ONE individual (highly negative words at that) dominate the life story of Prejean. It is tantamount to having the words of Saddam Hussein concerning George W Bush dominate the Wikipedia article about Bush. It violates Wikipedia avowed goal of NPOV and it violates BLP. Now, I know that consensus in Wikipedia editing is one of the goals, but consensus does NOT override other valid Wikipedia ideals such as BLP. There can be a compromise made where the gist of Hilton's highly negative opinion is included in the article, but at the same time it does NOT dominate the life story of Prejean. Prejean is notable for many, many reasons, not just her public fight with Hilton. She is notable for being a successful model; she is notable for participating in Deal or No Deal; she is notable for being the current Miss California USA; and she is now notable for being a TV personality. My first question is: Can you at least review the article and see if the second, third, fourth, and fifth repetitions of the b-word and c-word violates BLP? I believe that it does. And my second question is: Is it appropriate to make a report on an editor for violating 3RR even though that editor has only made one edit? And my third question is: Is misusing 3RR to win a debate on the proper interpretation of BLP appropriate? I don't think so.--InaMaka (talk) 15:58, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I've replied at the 3RR report. I'm also concerned about the BLP issues there, it's a shame that the talk died down at BLPN. You made 7 consecutive edits today which wouldn't count as 3RR. I don't think you need worry about being blocked right now so long as you keep cool, don't make personal attacks, and don't edit anyone's edits again, if you see a BLP violation on the talk page you might want to go back to BLPN. Dougweller (talk) 16:50, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Minor edits
Sorry, I think I have it as default. I'm certainly not doing it on purpose. I'll go change it now.Drew Smith What I've done 15:32, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I assumed you weren't, but I did run into one editor who was doing it for some bizarre reason I can no longer remember which was just a misunderstanding. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 16:11, 17 May 2009 (UTC) |
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8335Re: [Yuricon] Most memorable Shoujo ai/ Yuri moments
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• Johann Chua
Sep 21, 2002
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At 10:37 AM 09/22/2002 +0800, Tracy Williams wrote:
>A friend sent me the 3 fansubbed episodes of Alien 9, I need to watch
>'em soon...! (And I'm on episode 22 of Noir! Ah! Yuri so close!) @_@
Need to borrow my sempai's set of Noir. Too bad I missed Alien 9 on AXN's
anime marathon (forgot to record it); Aya Hisakawa gets to play a character
with the same family name as her, too (like the cast of Shinesman). Oh,
well, there'll be a rerun eventually--or I can try downloading it.
My favorite moment is in Starship Girl Yamamoto Yohko TV when Ayano says:
"Yohko...I really loved you. I loved you more than anyone else."
Johann Chua -- HP: http://www.geocities.com/fuuma_1999/
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Re: Problem: fglrx-driver + X.ORG.6.9.0
Am Dienstag, 21. Februar 2006 16:18 schrieb Lennart Sorensen:
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 07:00:20PM +0100, Hans wrote:
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > I have a slight Problem with my new notebook (got it as guarantee
> > exchange) with an ATI graphics card and Turion processor.
> >
> > Description:
> >
> > The driver I choose was version 8.22.5 (from ATI). I built the packages
> > with ****.run --buildpkg Debian/sid and installed it with dpkg -i.
> > So far it went all fine.
> >
> > But acceleration will not work. I can start X with correct resolution
> > 1280x800 in two different cases:
> >
> > Case 1: I comment "Load "dri"" in corg.conf out.
> >
> > Case 2: I do not install the kernel-module "fglrx-kernel-***"
> >
> > In both cases I got th correct screen.
> >
> > In other cases I got a blank screen, which cannot be switched back (i.e.
> > with CTRL + ALT + Backspace).
> >
> > I googled and read something about libdri.la, but could not confirm an
> > error. Is there any clue ? Is this the crappy driver or might this be a
> > configuration error by myself. I sent my xorg.conf as attachement (please
> > do not wonder about the description, I had an Nvidia-card before in my
> > old notebook. As I said: It was exchanged due to a guarantee case)
> Well I have no idea. I have seen many ati mobile chips in the past lock
> up with a black screen when the ati drivers had a crap (which they often
> do).
> athlon 64.
> Len Sorensen
Hi Len,
yes you are right, and I had had a nvidia before. Poorly Acer does not make
notebooks with nvidia any more (not in this price class). O.k., I just wanted
to check out, if he mistake was my fault, or the one by ATI.
Best regards
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Re: Has anyone successfully built a FatSlug?
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 06:06:57PM +0100, Steve Gane wrote:
> Hi all,
> 16M
> in between, which fools Apex's scanner.
> I've sent Marc an email with more technical detail, and I may try to
> mend it myself.
> Meanwhile, I reiterate my first question:
> I suspect the answer is no. I think Apex will boot a 128MB FatSlug but
> not a 64MB.
Interesting. I'll look more closely at your dump. Yes, I know that 2
chips and 128MiB works. I would have guessed that 2 cips and 64MiB
would work as well, but there may be something wrong in the order of
the scan.
> Steve Gane wrote:
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >I'm trying to use Apex 1.4.18 to boot my 64M FatSlug, but I'm not
> >having much luck.
> >I'm using the "proper" Debian/NSLU2 Etch.
> >
> >I can build Apex on a PC, swap it, prepend a header, pad it with FF,
> >and write it to mtdblock2.
> >(http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/CompileApex and
> >http://wiki.buici.com/wiki/NSLU2_Memory_Expansion_--_Fat_Slug helped a
> >lot!)
> >I have a serial port to observe the boot.
> >
> >But whatever I do, it always reports 32 MiB:
> >- Whether I build Apex with 0x2000000 or 0x4000000 memory bank size
> >memscan -u 0+64m"
> >sdram-init always detects 1 pair of 128 Mib chips = 32 MiB
> >memscan always says there's only 32MB.
> >
> >I used to boot with a hacked Redboot (that set the SDRAM config for
> >64M) with the old
> >bootstrapped Debian; now I can't install stuff because I don't have
> >enough memory :-(
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >
> --
> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact
> [email protected]
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Re: Taking over production of emacs20 package.
[email protected] (Christian Lynbech on satellite) writes:
> I think the number one question we need to address is whether we want
> to support running Xemacs and GNU emacs at the *same* time.
The answer is "if it's not an unbelievable technical obstacle, then
yes, we do."
> I do not believe that one can sensibly in the longer *use* both
Think multi-user system.
> directory and compile .elc files to another emacs variant specific
> directory. But again, this does not need to be that complicated. One
> could install the .el files in the standard shared directory
> default location) and then hack the bytecompiler to generate .elc
> finally hack the loader to try the subdirectories first. Don't forget:
> this is emacs, the extensible editor :-)
Right, that's one of the proposals.
> Separate packages such as auctex or cvs, which needs to install elisp
> files, definitely should have one and only one central location to
> stuff things into.
> Requiring all packages to come compiled with both variants is NOT the
> way to go. It will waste diskspace, both on users and for the
> maintainers of packages containing elisp, that now *has* to have both
> variants installed.
That's my feeling.
Rob Browning <[email protected]>
[email protected] .
Trouble? e-mail to [email protected] .
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