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"Donald Norman appeared to be a quiet Klamath County resident. He even watched his neighbors dogs when they would leave for holiday. Unbeknownst to Oregon law enforcement there were more than just wolves prowling the woods at night. On August the twenty-seventh 2001 Donald would take the first of his many victims lives. Donald strangled a protect Grey Wolf to death making him one of the world's most evil killers."
dramatic theme music | [
"From article:\n\nThree wildlife conservation groups are adding $10,000 to a reward for certain information about an Oregon wolf killed illegally last fall in Klamath County.\nThe Center for Biological Diversity, Oregon Wild and Cascadia Wildlands today announced a $10,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction for the illegal killing of a collared male grey wolf in Klamath County.",
">\n\nI am reassured when there are good people in the world doing things like this. We are in the middle of a culture war. It's important to fight back. The increased reward may make all the difference.",
">\n\nI believe it was the guys from the Dutton ranch.",
">\n\nSo help me, if it turns out that some dipshit fan of that show went out and clipped a wolf...",
">\n\nThere are some real fucking pieces of shit out there",
">\n\nWhat’s the fine for killing a wolf?",
">\n\nWolf had a paw injury from inadvertently being trapped and had started to prey on livestock instead of wild game. My uneducated guess it was likely a rancher/farmer.",
">\n\nOr a wolf serial killer. The Oregon Wolf Strangler.",
">\n\nWhen does that come out on Netflix?",
">\n\n\"Canine Homicide: The OR103 Killer\"",
">\n\nAnd it’ll be 30 minutes of real content, somehow stretched out over eight 60 minute episodes."
] |
>
Anyone checked Greg Gianforte? He has a history of killing collared and tracked animals. His MO is to use hunting dogs to corner/tree the animal and then leisurely shoot it at his convenience. | [
"From article:\n\nThree wildlife conservation groups are adding $10,000 to a reward for certain information about an Oregon wolf killed illegally last fall in Klamath County.\nThe Center for Biological Diversity, Oregon Wild and Cascadia Wildlands today announced a $10,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction for the illegal killing of a collared male grey wolf in Klamath County.",
">\n\nI am reassured when there are good people in the world doing things like this. We are in the middle of a culture war. It's important to fight back. The increased reward may make all the difference.",
">\n\nI believe it was the guys from the Dutton ranch.",
">\n\nSo help me, if it turns out that some dipshit fan of that show went out and clipped a wolf...",
">\n\nThere are some real fucking pieces of shit out there",
">\n\nWhat’s the fine for killing a wolf?",
">\n\nWolf had a paw injury from inadvertently being trapped and had started to prey on livestock instead of wild game. My uneducated guess it was likely a rancher/farmer.",
">\n\nOr a wolf serial killer. The Oregon Wolf Strangler.",
">\n\nWhen does that come out on Netflix?",
">\n\n\"Canine Homicide: The OR103 Killer\"",
">\n\nAnd it’ll be 30 minutes of real content, somehow stretched out over eight 60 minute episodes.",
">\n\n\"Donald Norman appeared to be a quiet Klamath County resident. He even watched his neighbors dogs when they would leave for holiday. Unbeknownst to Oregon law enforcement there were more than just wolves prowling the woods at night. On August the twenty-seventh 2001 Donald would take the first of his many victims lives. Donald strangled a protect Grey Wolf to death making him one of the world's most evil killers.\"\ndramatic theme music"
] |
>
Isn't there a woman hunter who ignores laws like this? Should be looking her up. | [
"From article:\n\nThree wildlife conservation groups are adding $10,000 to a reward for certain information about an Oregon wolf killed illegally last fall in Klamath County.\nThe Center for Biological Diversity, Oregon Wild and Cascadia Wildlands today announced a $10,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction for the illegal killing of a collared male grey wolf in Klamath County.",
">\n\nI am reassured when there are good people in the world doing things like this. We are in the middle of a culture war. It's important to fight back. The increased reward may make all the difference.",
">\n\nI believe it was the guys from the Dutton ranch.",
">\n\nSo help me, if it turns out that some dipshit fan of that show went out and clipped a wolf...",
">\n\nThere are some real fucking pieces of shit out there",
">\n\nWhat’s the fine for killing a wolf?",
">\n\nWolf had a paw injury from inadvertently being trapped and had started to prey on livestock instead of wild game. My uneducated guess it was likely a rancher/farmer.",
">\n\nOr a wolf serial killer. The Oregon Wolf Strangler.",
">\n\nWhen does that come out on Netflix?",
">\n\n\"Canine Homicide: The OR103 Killer\"",
">\n\nAnd it’ll be 30 minutes of real content, somehow stretched out over eight 60 minute episodes.",
">\n\n\"Donald Norman appeared to be a quiet Klamath County resident. He even watched his neighbors dogs when they would leave for holiday. Unbeknownst to Oregon law enforcement there were more than just wolves prowling the woods at night. On August the twenty-seventh 2001 Donald would take the first of his many victims lives. Donald strangled a protect Grey Wolf to death making him one of the world's most evil killers.\"\ndramatic theme music",
">\n\nAnyone checked Greg Gianforte? He has a history of killing collared and tracked animals. His MO is to use hunting dogs to corner/tree the animal and then leisurely shoot it at his convenience."
] |
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Anyone know what Sarah Palin's been up to lately? | [
"From article:\n\nThree wildlife conservation groups are adding $10,000 to a reward for certain information about an Oregon wolf killed illegally last fall in Klamath County.\nThe Center for Biological Diversity, Oregon Wild and Cascadia Wildlands today announced a $10,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction for the illegal killing of a collared male grey wolf in Klamath County.",
">\n\nI am reassured when there are good people in the world doing things like this. We are in the middle of a culture war. It's important to fight back. The increased reward may make all the difference.",
">\n\nI believe it was the guys from the Dutton ranch.",
">\n\nSo help me, if it turns out that some dipshit fan of that show went out and clipped a wolf...",
">\n\nThere are some real fucking pieces of shit out there",
">\n\nWhat’s the fine for killing a wolf?",
">\n\nWolf had a paw injury from inadvertently being trapped and had started to prey on livestock instead of wild game. My uneducated guess it was likely a rancher/farmer.",
">\n\nOr a wolf serial killer. The Oregon Wolf Strangler.",
">\n\nWhen does that come out on Netflix?",
">\n\n\"Canine Homicide: The OR103 Killer\"",
">\n\nAnd it’ll be 30 minutes of real content, somehow stretched out over eight 60 minute episodes.",
">\n\n\"Donald Norman appeared to be a quiet Klamath County resident. He even watched his neighbors dogs when they would leave for holiday. Unbeknownst to Oregon law enforcement there were more than just wolves prowling the woods at night. On August the twenty-seventh 2001 Donald would take the first of his many victims lives. Donald strangled a protect Grey Wolf to death making him one of the world's most evil killers.\"\ndramatic theme music",
">\n\nAnyone checked Greg Gianforte? He has a history of killing collared and tracked animals. His MO is to use hunting dogs to corner/tree the animal and then leisurely shoot it at his convenience.",
">\n\nIsn't there a woman hunter who ignores laws like this? Should be looking her up."
] |
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pretty sure it's buried somewhere on the yellowstone | [
"From article:\n\nThree wildlife conservation groups are adding $10,000 to a reward for certain information about an Oregon wolf killed illegally last fall in Klamath County.\nThe Center for Biological Diversity, Oregon Wild and Cascadia Wildlands today announced a $10,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction for the illegal killing of a collared male grey wolf in Klamath County.",
">\n\nI am reassured when there are good people in the world doing things like this. We are in the middle of a culture war. It's important to fight back. The increased reward may make all the difference.",
">\n\nI believe it was the guys from the Dutton ranch.",
">\n\nSo help me, if it turns out that some dipshit fan of that show went out and clipped a wolf...",
">\n\nThere are some real fucking pieces of shit out there",
">\n\nWhat’s the fine for killing a wolf?",
">\n\nWolf had a paw injury from inadvertently being trapped and had started to prey on livestock instead of wild game. My uneducated guess it was likely a rancher/farmer.",
">\n\nOr a wolf serial killer. The Oregon Wolf Strangler.",
">\n\nWhen does that come out on Netflix?",
">\n\n\"Canine Homicide: The OR103 Killer\"",
">\n\nAnd it’ll be 30 minutes of real content, somehow stretched out over eight 60 minute episodes.",
">\n\n\"Donald Norman appeared to be a quiet Klamath County resident. He even watched his neighbors dogs when they would leave for holiday. Unbeknownst to Oregon law enforcement there were more than just wolves prowling the woods at night. On August the twenty-seventh 2001 Donald would take the first of his many victims lives. Donald strangled a protect Grey Wolf to death making him one of the world's most evil killers.\"\ndramatic theme music",
">\n\nAnyone checked Greg Gianforte? He has a history of killing collared and tracked animals. His MO is to use hunting dogs to corner/tree the animal and then leisurely shoot it at his convenience.",
">\n\nIsn't there a woman hunter who ignores laws like this? Should be looking her up.",
">\n\nAnyone know what Sarah Palin's been up to lately?"
] |
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Y’a beat me to it. | [
"From article:\n\nThree wildlife conservation groups are adding $10,000 to a reward for certain information about an Oregon wolf killed illegally last fall in Klamath County.\nThe Center for Biological Diversity, Oregon Wild and Cascadia Wildlands today announced a $10,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction for the illegal killing of a collared male grey wolf in Klamath County.",
">\n\nI am reassured when there are good people in the world doing things like this. We are in the middle of a culture war. It's important to fight back. The increased reward may make all the difference.",
">\n\nI believe it was the guys from the Dutton ranch.",
">\n\nSo help me, if it turns out that some dipshit fan of that show went out and clipped a wolf...",
">\n\nThere are some real fucking pieces of shit out there",
">\n\nWhat’s the fine for killing a wolf?",
">\n\nWolf had a paw injury from inadvertently being trapped and had started to prey on livestock instead of wild game. My uneducated guess it was likely a rancher/farmer.",
">\n\nOr a wolf serial killer. The Oregon Wolf Strangler.",
">\n\nWhen does that come out on Netflix?",
">\n\n\"Canine Homicide: The OR103 Killer\"",
">\n\nAnd it’ll be 30 minutes of real content, somehow stretched out over eight 60 minute episodes.",
">\n\n\"Donald Norman appeared to be a quiet Klamath County resident. He even watched his neighbors dogs when they would leave for holiday. Unbeknownst to Oregon law enforcement there were more than just wolves prowling the woods at night. On August the twenty-seventh 2001 Donald would take the first of his many victims lives. Donald strangled a protect Grey Wolf to death making him one of the world's most evil killers.\"\ndramatic theme music",
">\n\nAnyone checked Greg Gianforte? He has a history of killing collared and tracked animals. His MO is to use hunting dogs to corner/tree the animal and then leisurely shoot it at his convenience.",
">\n\nIsn't there a woman hunter who ignores laws like this? Should be looking her up.",
">\n\nAnyone know what Sarah Palin's been up to lately?",
">\n\npretty sure it's buried somewhere on the yellowstone"
] |
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Rip made sure no one will ever find it | [
"From article:\n\nThree wildlife conservation groups are adding $10,000 to a reward for certain information about an Oregon wolf killed illegally last fall in Klamath County.\nThe Center for Biological Diversity, Oregon Wild and Cascadia Wildlands today announced a $10,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction for the illegal killing of a collared male grey wolf in Klamath County.",
">\n\nI am reassured when there are good people in the world doing things like this. We are in the middle of a culture war. It's important to fight back. The increased reward may make all the difference.",
">\n\nI believe it was the guys from the Dutton ranch.",
">\n\nSo help me, if it turns out that some dipshit fan of that show went out and clipped a wolf...",
">\n\nThere are some real fucking pieces of shit out there",
">\n\nWhat’s the fine for killing a wolf?",
">\n\nWolf had a paw injury from inadvertently being trapped and had started to prey on livestock instead of wild game. My uneducated guess it was likely a rancher/farmer.",
">\n\nOr a wolf serial killer. The Oregon Wolf Strangler.",
">\n\nWhen does that come out on Netflix?",
">\n\n\"Canine Homicide: The OR103 Killer\"",
">\n\nAnd it’ll be 30 minutes of real content, somehow stretched out over eight 60 minute episodes.",
">\n\n\"Donald Norman appeared to be a quiet Klamath County resident. He even watched his neighbors dogs when they would leave for holiday. Unbeknownst to Oregon law enforcement there were more than just wolves prowling the woods at night. On August the twenty-seventh 2001 Donald would take the first of his many victims lives. Donald strangled a protect Grey Wolf to death making him one of the world's most evil killers.\"\ndramatic theme music",
">\n\nAnyone checked Greg Gianforte? He has a history of killing collared and tracked animals. His MO is to use hunting dogs to corner/tree the animal and then leisurely shoot it at his convenience.",
">\n\nIsn't there a woman hunter who ignores laws like this? Should be looking her up.",
">\n\nAnyone know what Sarah Palin's been up to lately?",
">\n\npretty sure it's buried somewhere on the yellowstone",
">\n\nY’a beat me to it."
] |
> | [
"From article:\n\nThree wildlife conservation groups are adding $10,000 to a reward for certain information about an Oregon wolf killed illegally last fall in Klamath County.\nThe Center for Biological Diversity, Oregon Wild and Cascadia Wildlands today announced a $10,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction for the illegal killing of a collared male grey wolf in Klamath County.",
">\n\nI am reassured when there are good people in the world doing things like this. We are in the middle of a culture war. It's important to fight back. The increased reward may make all the difference.",
">\n\nI believe it was the guys from the Dutton ranch.",
">\n\nSo help me, if it turns out that some dipshit fan of that show went out and clipped a wolf...",
">\n\nThere are some real fucking pieces of shit out there",
">\n\nWhat’s the fine for killing a wolf?",
">\n\nWolf had a paw injury from inadvertently being trapped and had started to prey on livestock instead of wild game. My uneducated guess it was likely a rancher/farmer.",
">\n\nOr a wolf serial killer. The Oregon Wolf Strangler.",
">\n\nWhen does that come out on Netflix?",
">\n\n\"Canine Homicide: The OR103 Killer\"",
">\n\nAnd it’ll be 30 minutes of real content, somehow stretched out over eight 60 minute episodes.",
">\n\n\"Donald Norman appeared to be a quiet Klamath County resident. He even watched his neighbors dogs when they would leave for holiday. Unbeknownst to Oregon law enforcement there were more than just wolves prowling the woods at night. On August the twenty-seventh 2001 Donald would take the first of his many victims lives. Donald strangled a protect Grey Wolf to death making him one of the world's most evil killers.\"\ndramatic theme music",
">\n\nAnyone checked Greg Gianforte? He has a history of killing collared and tracked animals. His MO is to use hunting dogs to corner/tree the animal and then leisurely shoot it at his convenience.",
">\n\nIsn't there a woman hunter who ignores laws like this? Should be looking her up.",
">\n\nAnyone know what Sarah Palin's been up to lately?",
">\n\npretty sure it's buried somewhere on the yellowstone",
">\n\nY’a beat me to it.",
">\n\nRip made sure no one will ever find it"
] |
In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.
For 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count. | [] |
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It depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count."
] |
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Yeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift."
] |
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Kidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.
Let's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.
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Oh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place."
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Bah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't? | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses."
] |
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He got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?"
] |
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Republican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.
I get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory."
] |
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He lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty."
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He got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on? | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12."
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Yeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them... | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?"
] |
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Oh yes, the "both sides" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they "suspect" fraud. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them..."
] |
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Yes, one of them is objectively "less bad" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud."
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Make an example of this guy: maximum penalty
It really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century."
] |
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A former Republican county elections commissioner...
Sad. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud"
] |
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Imagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.
Yikes. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad."
] |
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Imagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes."
] |
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I'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him"
] |
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I don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the "helping people/improving things" part. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though."
] |
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Yeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part."
] |
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"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count."
For reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.
This guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught."
] |
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That the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years."
] |
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Apples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.
He *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.
He should get far more than she did. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here."
] |
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Yes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did."
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Do you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have) | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving."
] |
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No, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)"
] |
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I wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point."
] |
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We should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing.
If you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break.
These soft society crimes are without long term consequences.
Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds.. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s"
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Uh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.
Defendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds.."
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They didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining."
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A “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”
Treating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence.
In any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.
In sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty."
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There is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.
A person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.
Your username checks out. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about."
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Lol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.
As I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out."
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My apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.
I can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm? | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing."
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Take a wild guess which party he's a member of? | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?"
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The one that always does foul play | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?"
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It's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play"
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Wouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party? | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts."
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From the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?"
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He’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead."
] |
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Considering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO."
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Look at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!
We wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that."
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I firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing? | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke."
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That is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf) | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?"
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I’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)"
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If there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.
Knew this was a Republican before I even clicked. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is."
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Well naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked."
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Oh a republican, how shocking. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left"
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Shocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking."
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Just like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point."
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The reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased"
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No, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections."
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Found the voter fraudster | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum."
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Republicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster"
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How did I know it would be a Republican | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo."
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So...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican"
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I assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican."
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With Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh"
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Republicans constantly doing this shit in current year
Democrats doing it 60 years ago
Yeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time."
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IF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day.... | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference"
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The Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day...."
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These folks are always republicans aren’t they? | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years."
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I'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?"
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Republicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat."
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Do you see the perpetrator?
…Yeah I’m right here. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it."
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The GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here."
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Another Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud."
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I'm sure this will be the first of many. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real."
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yup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many."
] |
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Once again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds."
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Don't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves."
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Congratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of."
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I assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud."
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Voter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven! | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap."
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The first sentence is 100% not a surprise. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!"
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No surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.
What is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to "own" the Democrats? Just pathetic. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise."
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I’m taking a wild guess and saying there’s an “R” after his name. Ammirite? | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise.",
">\n\nNo surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.\nWhat is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to \"own\" the Democrats? Just pathetic."
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How do you admit to a crime and still claim innocence? | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise.",
">\n\nNo surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.\nWhat is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to \"own\" the Democrats? Just pathetic.",
">\n\nI’m taking a wild guess and saying there’s an “R” after his name. Ammirite?"
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It’s written weird but it sounds to me like he pled innocent at arraignment, then later admitted to it at a later date. Because they don’t say it’s going to trial to determine guilt, but instead that the next step in sentencing in March. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise.",
">\n\nNo surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.\nWhat is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to \"own\" the Democrats? Just pathetic.",
">\n\nI’m taking a wild guess and saying there’s an “R” after his name. Ammirite?",
">\n\nHow do you admit to a crime and still claim innocence?"
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In case you're as lazy as I usually am and wanted to know - yes, Republican. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise.",
">\n\nNo surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.\nWhat is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to \"own\" the Democrats? Just pathetic.",
">\n\nI’m taking a wild guess and saying there’s an “R” after his name. Ammirite?",
">\n\nHow do you admit to a crime and still claim innocence?",
">\n\nIt’s written weird but it sounds to me like he pled innocent at arraignment, then later admitted to it at a later date. Because they don’t say it’s going to trial to determine guilt, but instead that the next step in sentencing in March."
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Republicans: Plead guilty to election fraud
Also Republicans: Look! See, it does happen! There IS election fraud! | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise.",
">\n\nNo surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.\nWhat is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to \"own\" the Democrats? Just pathetic.",
">\n\nI’m taking a wild guess and saying there’s an “R” after his name. Ammirite?",
">\n\nHow do you admit to a crime and still claim innocence?",
">\n\nIt’s written weird but it sounds to me like he pled innocent at arraignment, then later admitted to it at a later date. Because they don’t say it’s going to trial to determine guilt, but instead that the next step in sentencing in March.",
">\n\nIn case you're as lazy as I usually am and wanted to know - yes, Republican."
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The Republicans keep screaming about voter/election fraud because they KNOW it's happening - they're the ones doing it. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise.",
">\n\nNo surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.\nWhat is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to \"own\" the Democrats? Just pathetic.",
">\n\nI’m taking a wild guess and saying there’s an “R” after his name. Ammirite?",
">\n\nHow do you admit to a crime and still claim innocence?",
">\n\nIt’s written weird but it sounds to me like he pled innocent at arraignment, then later admitted to it at a later date. Because they don’t say it’s going to trial to determine guilt, but instead that the next step in sentencing in March.",
">\n\nIn case you're as lazy as I usually am and wanted to know - yes, Republican.",
">\n\nRepublicans: Plead guilty to election fraud\nAlso Republicans: Look! See, it does happen! There IS election fraud!"
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Oh look, a republican doing the crime that they keep accusing democrats of. I'm shocked I tell you, shocked! | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise.",
">\n\nNo surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.\nWhat is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to \"own\" the Democrats? Just pathetic.",
">\n\nI’m taking a wild guess and saying there’s an “R” after his name. Ammirite?",
">\n\nHow do you admit to a crime and still claim innocence?",
">\n\nIt’s written weird but it sounds to me like he pled innocent at arraignment, then later admitted to it at a later date. Because they don’t say it’s going to trial to determine guilt, but instead that the next step in sentencing in March.",
">\n\nIn case you're as lazy as I usually am and wanted to know - yes, Republican.",
">\n\nRepublicans: Plead guilty to election fraud\nAlso Republicans: Look! See, it does happen! There IS election fraud!",
">\n\nThe Republicans keep screaming about voter/election fraud because they KNOW it's happening - they're the ones doing it."
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"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise.",
">\n\nNo surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.\nWhat is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to \"own\" the Democrats? Just pathetic.",
">\n\nI’m taking a wild guess and saying there’s an “R” after his name. Ammirite?",
">\n\nHow do you admit to a crime and still claim innocence?",
">\n\nIt’s written weird but it sounds to me like he pled innocent at arraignment, then later admitted to it at a later date. Because they don’t say it’s going to trial to determine guilt, but instead that the next step in sentencing in March.",
">\n\nIn case you're as lazy as I usually am and wanted to know - yes, Republican.",
">\n\nRepublicans: Plead guilty to election fraud\nAlso Republicans: Look! See, it does happen! There IS election fraud!",
">\n\nThe Republicans keep screaming about voter/election fraud because they KNOW it's happening - they're the ones doing it.",
">\n\nOh look, a republican doing the crime that they keep accusing democrats of. I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!"
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Found it just 3 words in. | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise.",
">\n\nNo surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.\nWhat is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to \"own\" the Democrats? Just pathetic.",
">\n\nI’m taking a wild guess and saying there’s an “R” after his name. Ammirite?",
">\n\nHow do you admit to a crime and still claim innocence?",
">\n\nIt’s written weird but it sounds to me like he pled innocent at arraignment, then later admitted to it at a later date. Because they don’t say it’s going to trial to determine guilt, but instead that the next step in sentencing in March.",
">\n\nIn case you're as lazy as I usually am and wanted to know - yes, Republican.",
">\n\nRepublicans: Plead guilty to election fraud\nAlso Republicans: Look! See, it does happen! There IS election fraud!",
">\n\nThe Republicans keep screaming about voter/election fraud because they KNOW it's happening - they're the ones doing it.",
">\n\nOh look, a republican doing the crime that they keep accusing democrats of. I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!",
">\n\nRepublicans seriously need to clean this trash up."
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Yea, there is voter fraud and 90% of the time it’s by Repubs so they should know… | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise.",
">\n\nNo surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.\nWhat is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to \"own\" the Democrats? Just pathetic.",
">\n\nI’m taking a wild guess and saying there’s an “R” after his name. Ammirite?",
">\n\nHow do you admit to a crime and still claim innocence?",
">\n\nIt’s written weird but it sounds to me like he pled innocent at arraignment, then later admitted to it at a later date. Because they don’t say it’s going to trial to determine guilt, but instead that the next step in sentencing in March.",
">\n\nIn case you're as lazy as I usually am and wanted to know - yes, Republican.",
">\n\nRepublicans: Plead guilty to election fraud\nAlso Republicans: Look! See, it does happen! There IS election fraud!",
">\n\nThe Republicans keep screaming about voter/election fraud because they KNOW it's happening - they're the ones doing it.",
">\n\nOh look, a republican doing the crime that they keep accusing democrats of. I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!",
">\n\nRepublicans seriously need to clean this trash up.",
">\n\nOpened the article looking for the word \"Republican\". \nFound it just 3 words in."
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Most of the real election always seems to be by republicans.
I am shocked, shocked I say! | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise.",
">\n\nNo surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.\nWhat is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to \"own\" the Democrats? Just pathetic.",
">\n\nI’m taking a wild guess and saying there’s an “R” after his name. Ammirite?",
">\n\nHow do you admit to a crime and still claim innocence?",
">\n\nIt’s written weird but it sounds to me like he pled innocent at arraignment, then later admitted to it at a later date. Because they don’t say it’s going to trial to determine guilt, but instead that the next step in sentencing in March.",
">\n\nIn case you're as lazy as I usually am and wanted to know - yes, Republican.",
">\n\nRepublicans: Plead guilty to election fraud\nAlso Republicans: Look! See, it does happen! There IS election fraud!",
">\n\nThe Republicans keep screaming about voter/election fraud because they KNOW it's happening - they're the ones doing it.",
">\n\nOh look, a republican doing the crime that they keep accusing democrats of. I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!",
">\n\nRepublicans seriously need to clean this trash up.",
">\n\nOpened the article looking for the word \"Republican\". \nFound it just 3 words in.",
">\n\nYea, there is voter fraud and 90% of the time it’s by Repubs so they should know…"
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"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise.",
">\n\nNo surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.\nWhat is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to \"own\" the Democrats? Just pathetic.",
">\n\nI’m taking a wild guess and saying there’s an “R” after his name. Ammirite?",
">\n\nHow do you admit to a crime and still claim innocence?",
">\n\nIt’s written weird but it sounds to me like he pled innocent at arraignment, then later admitted to it at a later date. Because they don’t say it’s going to trial to determine guilt, but instead that the next step in sentencing in March.",
">\n\nIn case you're as lazy as I usually am and wanted to know - yes, Republican.",
">\n\nRepublicans: Plead guilty to election fraud\nAlso Republicans: Look! See, it does happen! There IS election fraud!",
">\n\nThe Republicans keep screaming about voter/election fraud because they KNOW it's happening - they're the ones doing it.",
">\n\nOh look, a republican doing the crime that they keep accusing democrats of. I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!",
">\n\nRepublicans seriously need to clean this trash up.",
">\n\nOpened the article looking for the word \"Republican\". \nFound it just 3 words in.",
">\n\nYea, there is voter fraud and 90% of the time it’s by Repubs so they should know…",
">\n\nMost of the real election always seems to be by republicans. \nI am shocked, shocked I say!"
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"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise.",
">\n\nNo surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.\nWhat is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to \"own\" the Democrats? Just pathetic.",
">\n\nI’m taking a wild guess and saying there’s an “R” after his name. Ammirite?",
">\n\nHow do you admit to a crime and still claim innocence?",
">\n\nIt’s written weird but it sounds to me like he pled innocent at arraignment, then later admitted to it at a later date. Because they don’t say it’s going to trial to determine guilt, but instead that the next step in sentencing in March.",
">\n\nIn case you're as lazy as I usually am and wanted to know - yes, Republican.",
">\n\nRepublicans: Plead guilty to election fraud\nAlso Republicans: Look! See, it does happen! There IS election fraud!",
">\n\nThe Republicans keep screaming about voter/election fraud because they KNOW it's happening - they're the ones doing it.",
">\n\nOh look, a republican doing the crime that they keep accusing democrats of. I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!",
">\n\nRepublicans seriously need to clean this trash up.",
">\n\nOpened the article looking for the word \"Republican\". \nFound it just 3 words in.",
">\n\nYea, there is voter fraud and 90% of the time it’s by Repubs so they should know…",
">\n\nMost of the real election always seems to be by republicans. \nI am shocked, shocked I say!",
">\n\nWhy do the headlines never say the party alignments of elected officials committing election fraud or getting shot at by stochastic terrorizes? It’s relevant."
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Let me guess, let me guess: Republican? Ah, it was too easy… | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise.",
">\n\nNo surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.\nWhat is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to \"own\" the Democrats? Just pathetic.",
">\n\nI’m taking a wild guess and saying there’s an “R” after his name. Ammirite?",
">\n\nHow do you admit to a crime and still claim innocence?",
">\n\nIt’s written weird but it sounds to me like he pled innocent at arraignment, then later admitted to it at a later date. Because they don’t say it’s going to trial to determine guilt, but instead that the next step in sentencing in March.",
">\n\nIn case you're as lazy as I usually am and wanted to know - yes, Republican.",
">\n\nRepublicans: Plead guilty to election fraud\nAlso Republicans: Look! See, it does happen! There IS election fraud!",
">\n\nThe Republicans keep screaming about voter/election fraud because they KNOW it's happening - they're the ones doing it.",
">\n\nOh look, a republican doing the crime that they keep accusing democrats of. I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!",
">\n\nRepublicans seriously need to clean this trash up.",
">\n\nOpened the article looking for the word \"Republican\". \nFound it just 3 words in.",
">\n\nYea, there is voter fraud and 90% of the time it’s by Repubs so they should know…",
">\n\nMost of the real election always seems to be by republicans. \nI am shocked, shocked I say!",
">\n\nWhy do the headlines never say the party alignments of elected officials committing election fraud or getting shot at by stochastic terrorizes? It’s relevant.",
">\n\nMaybe because they actually want you to read the article?"
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Oh how the turn tables, Republicans | [
"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise.",
">\n\nNo surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.\nWhat is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to \"own\" the Democrats? Just pathetic.",
">\n\nI’m taking a wild guess and saying there’s an “R” after his name. Ammirite?",
">\n\nHow do you admit to a crime and still claim innocence?",
">\n\nIt’s written weird but it sounds to me like he pled innocent at arraignment, then later admitted to it at a later date. Because they don’t say it’s going to trial to determine guilt, but instead that the next step in sentencing in March.",
">\n\nIn case you're as lazy as I usually am and wanted to know - yes, Republican.",
">\n\nRepublicans: Plead guilty to election fraud\nAlso Republicans: Look! See, it does happen! There IS election fraud!",
">\n\nThe Republicans keep screaming about voter/election fraud because they KNOW it's happening - they're the ones doing it.",
">\n\nOh look, a republican doing the crime that they keep accusing democrats of. I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!",
">\n\nRepublicans seriously need to clean this trash up.",
">\n\nOpened the article looking for the word \"Republican\". \nFound it just 3 words in.",
">\n\nYea, there is voter fraud and 90% of the time it’s by Repubs so they should know…",
">\n\nMost of the real election always seems to be by republicans. \nI am shocked, shocked I say!",
">\n\nWhy do the headlines never say the party alignments of elected officials committing election fraud or getting shot at by stochastic terrorizes? It’s relevant.",
">\n\nMaybe because they actually want you to read the article?",
">\n\nLet me guess, let me guess: Republican? Ah, it was too easy…"
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"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise.",
">\n\nNo surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.\nWhat is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to \"own\" the Democrats? Just pathetic.",
">\n\nI’m taking a wild guess and saying there’s an “R” after his name. Ammirite?",
">\n\nHow do you admit to a crime and still claim innocence?",
">\n\nIt’s written weird but it sounds to me like he pled innocent at arraignment, then later admitted to it at a later date. Because they don’t say it’s going to trial to determine guilt, but instead that the next step in sentencing in March.",
">\n\nIn case you're as lazy as I usually am and wanted to know - yes, Republican.",
">\n\nRepublicans: Plead guilty to election fraud\nAlso Republicans: Look! See, it does happen! There IS election fraud!",
">\n\nThe Republicans keep screaming about voter/election fraud because they KNOW it's happening - they're the ones doing it.",
">\n\nOh look, a republican doing the crime that they keep accusing democrats of. I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!",
">\n\nRepublicans seriously need to clean this trash up.",
">\n\nOpened the article looking for the word \"Republican\". \nFound it just 3 words in.",
">\n\nYea, there is voter fraud and 90% of the time it’s by Repubs so they should know…",
">\n\nMost of the real election always seems to be by republicans. \nI am shocked, shocked I say!",
">\n\nWhy do the headlines never say the party alignments of elected officials committing election fraud or getting shot at by stochastic terrorizes? It’s relevant.",
">\n\nMaybe because they actually want you to read the article?",
">\n\nLet me guess, let me guess: Republican? Ah, it was too easy…",
">\n\nOh how the turn tables, Republicans"
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"In several cases, Schofield allegedly brought the ballots to those registered voters and had them sign absentee ballot envelopes without actually voting. That allowed Schofield or another person to cast votes in these voters’ names, according to the indictment.\n\nFor 12 votes. Were the elections that close? I'm thinking probably not. What an absolute moronic shitbag. I hope he gets the maximum penalty on every count.",
">\n\nIt depends on where in Rensselaer county, NY. Some of the urban areas are quite purple and the scales could tilt either way in local elections just by a few votes. Outside suburban areas, it gets conservative pretty quickly to the point that there are confederate flags waving in some houses and lawns - if you catch my drift.",
">\n\nYeah, drive 10 minutes north of Troy and the flags are all over the place.",
">\n\nKidding me, 10 minutes east of East Greenbush and you can start seeing them or Trump 2024 flags.\nLet's never forget that obnoxious asshole on Route 4 with all of those signs and flags on his lawn either. I am not surprised someone got pissed enough to beat the shit out of that wooden sign he had - it's like being an actual asshole and inflammatory troll has consequences.\n\nEdit:\nOh bonus, that dude on Route 4 looks like Tom Anderson from Beavis and Butthead. Came into Starbucks one day, several years back wearing literally the same shirt, shorts, and socks pulled up with similar glasses.",
">\n\nBah I forgot about that dude. Had the Obama in a wife beater sign, fuck that dude. Did you say he did get beat up or you are surprised he hasn't?",
">\n\nHe got one of his signs destroyed that was very inflammatory.",
">\n\n\nRepublican - 12 absentee ballot applications he submitted electronically to the New York State Voter Absentee Ballot Application Request Portal, - falsely certified that he was the voter requesting each of the absentee ballots. When Schofield was originally arraigned in September, his attorney said Schofield maintained he was innocent of the charges in the 12-count indictment.\n\nI get lost after a while. Some of the offenders in these stories say, I was just testing the system this one just says not guilty.",
">\n\nHe lost his career because he wanted to add 12 ballot applications. 12.",
">\n\nHe got caught on 12. How many did he not get caught on?",
">\n\nYeah. It's frightening. He had no problems falsely submitting the first 11 of them...",
">\n\nOh yes, the \"both sides\" argument. Except one side hasn't consistently tried to subvert democracy at every turn because they aren't getting their way. Fake electors. Voter suppression. Insane gerrymandering and flagrant disregard for court orders. Floating laws to simply override the electorate if they \"suspect\" fraud.",
">\n\nYes, one of them is objectively \"less bad\" than the other. It's hard to get along with people who actively want to drag society back to the previous century.",
">\n\nMake an example of this guy: maximum penalty \nIt really is difficult to accept this asshat getting a slap o the wrist while a black woman mistakrnly voted and she gets 6 yrs for election fraud",
">\n\nA former Republican county elections commissioner...\nSad.",
">\n\nImagine blowing an opportunity that you wanted as a kid because you wanted to change the voting results.\nYikes.",
">\n\nImagine what he would've thought of the adult version of him",
">\n\nI'd really like to think that he'd be very disappointed. Maybe not though.",
">\n\nI don't know, the only kids I knew that were into politics at a young age didn't exactly have the best morals. Anecdotal, obviously, but they generally were in love with the idea of power/influence, much less so the \"helping people/improving things\" part.",
">\n\nYeah you're right. He'd probably just be mad at his future self for being caught.",
">\n\n\"He faces up to five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and supervised released of up to three years for each count.\"\nFor reference, Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, got 5 years in real prison for simply casting a provisional ballot that was never counted. She wasn't sure if she was eligible, the poll workers said cast a provisional ballot. She did, and now she's in prison.\nThis guy better get at least 5 years. It should be 60 years.",
">\n\nThat the Texas justice system has harsher penalties than NY’s isn’t a surprise, though. It’s kind of comparing apples and oranges here.",
">\n\nApples and oranges is right. She had no intention of committing voter fraud, and asked the poll workers what to do.\nHe *was* a poll worker, and used his position to intentionally try to fake a dozen votes.\nHe should get far more than she did.",
">\n\nYes, the “crimes” aren’t comparable, nor are the penalties. Texas law is often more punitive and it’s juries less forgiving.",
">\n\nDo you think it she was a white male republican she'd have gotten the same sentence? (Hint: she wouldn't have)",
">\n\nNo, nor do I think she’d have gotten the same sentence in NY. That’s my point.",
">\n\nI wonder if the tough-on-crime Republicans will push for the maximum sentence, 60 years and $3,000,000 fine, plus 36 years of supervised released. /s",
">\n\nWe should have a new mantra that if the charged person declares they are innocent and goes on a PR campaign then this should be considered at sentencing. \nIf you did the crime and plead guilty straight away. You saved the govt’ expense and time and should get a break. \nThese soft society crimes are without long term consequences. \n Don’t get me started on businesses that accept no fault fines for their misdeeds..",
">\n\nUh no let’s not get rid of the presumption of innocence or use a plea of “not guilty” (standard in the initial appearance in every single criminal case) against a defendant. That would be batshit.\nDefendants who plead guilty and spare the expense of trial already get lesser sentences. That’s like, the whole point of plea bargaining.",
">\n\nThey didn't argue against the presumption of innocence. They argued for taking into consideration how hard you worked to lie at sentencing, which only takes place after you have been found guilty.",
">\n\nA “not guilty” plea is not a “lie.”\nTreating it as such effectively takes some of the burden away from the government to prove your guilt and thus undermines the presumption of innocence. \nIn any event the whole point of a plea deal is a lesser sentence to avoid the cost of trial, “acceptance of responsibility” is already a factor in sentencing, and defendants who go to trial already face longer sentences.\nIn sum this idea is completely fucking stupid and the suggestion of someone without the slightest idea what they’re talking about.",
">\n\nThere is a difference between pleading not-guilty and running a months long PR campaign to use massive financial resources to place additional burden on an overloaded system and there is a difference between taking this into account before conviction and after pleading guilty and getting convicted.\nA person who was ultimately found guilty through due process who ran a large PR campaign didn't just plead not-guilty, they plead not-guilty and additionally worked HARD to undermine the justice. It's not fucking stupid to say that the amount of effort they put into subverting justice should be taken into account for someone found guilty.\nYour username checks out.",
">\n\nLol my username hasn’t checked out in almost a decade, homie. It’s kinda fun because it prompts r/confidentlyincorrect comments like this one.\nAs I said at least twice already, everything you just described would already be taken into consideration at sentencing.",
">\n\nMy apologies for misinterpreting. If you were trying to be helpfully informative it was lost in the deep layers of your dismissively insulting words while being additionally obscured by the argumentative tone of your writing style.\nI can appreciate that I was incorrect about your username. My deepest sympathies on having ended up in such a profession. If I'd considered for even a moment it should have been painfully apparent by the level of condescension achieved by each and every one of your messages and I am properly shamed for missing it. You're a credit to your field. Are you independent or do you work with a firm?",
">\n\nTake a wild guess which party he's a member of?",
">\n\nThe one that always does foul play",
">\n\nIt's Interesting how all these fraud cases are perpetrated by Republicans who are screaming about voter fraud....cunts.",
">\n\nWouldn’t this be further evidence of their claims of voter fraud, regardless of party?",
">\n\nFrom the Hunter Biden Laptop Party. Shocking. Click your heels and say Benghazi three times and Raygun will return from the dead.",
">\n\nHe’s too busy spinning in his grave as his party licks Russia’s balls. He’d come back just to be labeled a RINO.",
">\n\nConsidering that he had gay friends (although he did treat them like shit for political reasons, see Rock Hudson), and signed an actual amnesty for illegal immigrants, and signed gun control bills into law, they probably wouldn’t call him a RINO, they’d call him a woke communist or some shit like that.",
">\n\nLook at Fucking Woke Reagan over here!\nWe wanted him Woke from the dead, not some mamby-pamby-touchy-feely empathetic Woke.",
">\n\nI firmly believe that many GOP officials think that Dems MUST be cheating in elections because the GOP has been so good at it for years. Surely, the Dems must be doing all the illegal stuff ‘we’ are doing?",
">\n\nThat is Trump's belief, that everyone cheats so he feels justified in doing so as well. (in this case while playing golf)",
">\n\nI’d say that it’s the reverse: Trump cheats so much and so severely that he’s convinced that everybody else must be cheating as much as he is.",
">\n\nIf there's one thing you can always count on with Republicans, it's the projection. EVERYTHING they accuse others of, THEY DO. Every. Fucking. Time.\nKnew this was a Republican before I even clicked.",
">\n\nWell naturally. They call Dems gay and pedos, but Repubs are also gay and have many more pedos than the left",
">\n\nOh a republican, how shocking.",
">\n\nShocked, shocked I tell you to discover it was a Republican. They're just entirely projection at this point.",
">\n\nJust like their need to see the laptop for the dick pics on there. No joke, when it was found that Hunter Biden's dick pics were on the laptop, the republican attention to the laptop increased",
">\n\nThe reason republicans assume democrats cheat at elections. Because republicans cheat at elections.",
">\n\nNo, because everyone does it. We need more secure voting. Paper ballots and in person voter ID, at a minimum.",
">\n\nFound the voter fraudster",
">\n\nRepublicans and election fraud, name a more iconic duo.",
">\n\nHow did I know it would be a Republican",
">\n\nSo...once again we found voter fraud and once again it was a republican.",
">\n\nI assumed it was a Republican based on headline alone. Immediately confirmed by comments when I opened the thread. sigh",
">\n\nWith Republicans and election fraud it’s always been a he who smelt it dealt it sort of situation. Every single time.",
">\n\n\n\nRepublicans constantly doing this shit in current year\n\n\nDemocrats doing it 60 years ago\n\n\nYeah totally dude I get how you don't see the difference",
">\n\nIF this was a D it would be on every wrongwing news outlet 12x a day....",
">\n\nThe Republicans are projecting these election fraud claims. They’ve been cheating at elections for years.",
">\n\nThese folks are always republicans aren’t they?",
">\n\nI'm not sure why I bother clicking these links. They're nearly ALWAYS Republicans. Not sure why that isn't just right in the title. It always is when it's a Democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans know there is election fraud because they are the ones committing it.",
">\n\nDo you see the perpetrator?\n…Yeah I’m right here.",
">\n\nThe GOP keeps saying there is ballot fraud. It is because they were the ones committing the fraud.",
">\n\nAnother Republican commiting actually election fraud. Projection is real.",
">\n\nI'm sure this will be the first of many.",
">\n\nyup. every instance of voter fraud is caused by a republican. their projection knows no bounds.",
">\n\nOnce again only proving there's voting fraud by committing it themselves.",
">\n\nDon't know why I even bothered clicking the article to see what party he was a part of.",
">\n\nCongratulations GOP! You've found an exciting, innovative, and reliable approach to proving ballot fraud.",
">\n\nI assume he's white, so it will be a hand slap.",
">\n\nVoter fraud in 2020 and 2021 is being proven!",
">\n\nThe first sentence is 100% not a surprise.",
">\n\nNo surprise here. Many politicians are guilty of fraud, some just don't get caught.\nWhat is wrong with people? You throw your whole career/reputation out the window to \"own\" the Democrats? Just pathetic.",
">\n\nI’m taking a wild guess and saying there’s an “R” after his name. Ammirite?",
">\n\nHow do you admit to a crime and still claim innocence?",
">\n\nIt’s written weird but it sounds to me like he pled innocent at arraignment, then later admitted to it at a later date. Because they don’t say it’s going to trial to determine guilt, but instead that the next step in sentencing in March.",
">\n\nIn case you're as lazy as I usually am and wanted to know - yes, Republican.",
">\n\nRepublicans: Plead guilty to election fraud\nAlso Republicans: Look! See, it does happen! There IS election fraud!",
">\n\nThe Republicans keep screaming about voter/election fraud because they KNOW it's happening - they're the ones doing it.",
">\n\nOh look, a republican doing the crime that they keep accusing democrats of. I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!",
">\n\nRepublicans seriously need to clean this trash up.",
">\n\nOpened the article looking for the word \"Republican\". \nFound it just 3 words in.",
">\n\nYea, there is voter fraud and 90% of the time it’s by Repubs so they should know…",
">\n\nMost of the real election always seems to be by republicans. \nI am shocked, shocked I say!",
">\n\nWhy do the headlines never say the party alignments of elected officials committing election fraud or getting shot at by stochastic terrorizes? It’s relevant.",
">\n\nMaybe because they actually want you to read the article?",
">\n\nLet me guess, let me guess: Republican? Ah, it was too easy…",
">\n\nOh how the turn tables, Republicans",
">\n\nAP couldn't be bothered to add Republican to the story?"
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