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"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”"
] |
>
US politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click"
] |
>
How is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs."
] |
>
Some of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news.
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?"
] |
>
You are their product, not information
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?",
">\n\nSome of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news."
] |
>
His entire life lol
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?",
">\n\nSome of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news.",
">\n\nYou are their product, not information"
] |
>
I remember when a senator stepped down for a picture that came across as bad and sexually harassing. Now this guy won’t be made to resign because it could cost Republicans the speaker of the house.
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?",
">\n\nSome of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news.",
">\n\nYou are their product, not information",
">\n\nHis entire life lol"
] |
>
Not a single word on this clown in r/Conservative
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?",
">\n\nSome of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news.",
">\n\nYou are their product, not information",
">\n\nHis entire life lol",
">\n\nI remember when a senator stepped down for a picture that came across as bad and sexually harassing. Now this guy won’t be made to resign because it could cost Republicans the speaker of the house."
] |
>
Is it really any surprise? He's a Republican. Party of the make believe.
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?",
">\n\nSome of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news.",
">\n\nYou are their product, not information",
">\n\nHis entire life lol",
">\n\nI remember when a senator stepped down for a picture that came across as bad and sexually harassing. Now this guy won’t be made to resign because it could cost Republicans the speaker of the house.",
">\n\nNot a single word on this clown in r/Conservative"
] |
>
Santos makes Trump look like a rank amateur.
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?",
">\n\nSome of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news.",
">\n\nYou are their product, not information",
">\n\nHis entire life lol",
">\n\nI remember when a senator stepped down for a picture that came across as bad and sexually harassing. Now this guy won’t be made to resign because it could cost Republicans the speaker of the house.",
">\n\nNot a single word on this clown in r/Conservative",
">\n\nIs it really any surprise? He's a Republican. Party of the make believe."
] |
>
It's pretty much everything that he claimed during his campaign.
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?",
">\n\nSome of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news.",
">\n\nYou are their product, not information",
">\n\nHis entire life lol",
">\n\nI remember when a senator stepped down for a picture that came across as bad and sexually harassing. Now this guy won’t be made to resign because it could cost Republicans the speaker of the house.",
">\n\nNot a single word on this clown in r/Conservative",
">\n\nIs it really any surprise? He's a Republican. Party of the make believe.",
">\n\nSantos makes Trump look like a rank amateur."
] |
>
Hard to believe he accused his opponent of being a liar, during the televised debate. Lying asshole republican, check.
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?",
">\n\nSome of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news.",
">\n\nYou are their product, not information",
">\n\nHis entire life lol",
">\n\nI remember when a senator stepped down for a picture that came across as bad and sexually harassing. Now this guy won’t be made to resign because it could cost Republicans the speaker of the house.",
">\n\nNot a single word on this clown in r/Conservative",
">\n\nIs it really any surprise? He's a Republican. Party of the make believe.",
">\n\nSantos makes Trump look like a rank amateur.",
">\n\nIt's pretty much everything that he claimed during his campaign."
] |
>
This is the new politics. Make up a bunch of shit, apologize, and claim that you are not a fraud…just gotta wear a red tee shirt while you’re doing it it many districts these days.
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?",
">\n\nSome of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news.",
">\n\nYou are their product, not information",
">\n\nHis entire life lol",
">\n\nI remember when a senator stepped down for a picture that came across as bad and sexually harassing. Now this guy won’t be made to resign because it could cost Republicans the speaker of the house.",
">\n\nNot a single word on this clown in r/Conservative",
">\n\nIs it really any surprise? He's a Republican. Party of the make believe.",
">\n\nSantos makes Trump look like a rank amateur.",
">\n\nIt's pretty much everything that he claimed during his campaign.",
">\n\nHard to believe he accused his opponent of being a liar, during the televised debate. Lying asshole republican, check."
] |
>
He's blatantly Defrauding the United States.
Arrest this motherfucker!
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?",
">\n\nSome of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news.",
">\n\nYou are their product, not information",
">\n\nHis entire life lol",
">\n\nI remember when a senator stepped down for a picture that came across as bad and sexually harassing. Now this guy won’t be made to resign because it could cost Republicans the speaker of the house.",
">\n\nNot a single word on this clown in r/Conservative",
">\n\nIs it really any surprise? He's a Republican. Party of the make believe.",
">\n\nSantos makes Trump look like a rank amateur.",
">\n\nIt's pretty much everything that he claimed during his campaign.",
">\n\nHard to believe he accused his opponent of being a liar, during the televised debate. Lying asshole republican, check.",
">\n\nThis is the new politics. Make up a bunch of shit, apologize, and claim that you are not a fraud…just gotta wear a red tee shirt while you’re doing it it many districts these days."
] |
>
He doesn't need glasses..... add that to the list.
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?",
">\n\nSome of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news.",
">\n\nYou are their product, not information",
">\n\nHis entire life lol",
">\n\nI remember when a senator stepped down for a picture that came across as bad and sexually harassing. Now this guy won’t be made to resign because it could cost Republicans the speaker of the house.",
">\n\nNot a single word on this clown in r/Conservative",
">\n\nIs it really any surprise? He's a Republican. Party of the make believe.",
">\n\nSantos makes Trump look like a rank amateur.",
">\n\nIt's pretty much everything that he claimed during his campaign.",
">\n\nHard to believe he accused his opponent of being a liar, during the televised debate. Lying asshole republican, check.",
">\n\nThis is the new politics. Make up a bunch of shit, apologize, and claim that you are not a fraud…just gotta wear a red tee shirt while you’re doing it it many districts these days.",
">\n\nHe's blatantly Defrauding the United States.\nArrest this motherfucker!"
] |
>
At this point he might very well be a bunch of squirrels in a human suit.
Boot this guy already.
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?",
">\n\nSome of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news.",
">\n\nYou are their product, not information",
">\n\nHis entire life lol",
">\n\nI remember when a senator stepped down for a picture that came across as bad and sexually harassing. Now this guy won’t be made to resign because it could cost Republicans the speaker of the house.",
">\n\nNot a single word on this clown in r/Conservative",
">\n\nIs it really any surprise? He's a Republican. Party of the make believe.",
">\n\nSantos makes Trump look like a rank amateur.",
">\n\nIt's pretty much everything that he claimed during his campaign.",
">\n\nHard to believe he accused his opponent of being a liar, during the televised debate. Lying asshole republican, check.",
">\n\nThis is the new politics. Make up a bunch of shit, apologize, and claim that you are not a fraud…just gotta wear a red tee shirt while you’re doing it it many districts these days.",
">\n\nHe's blatantly Defrauding the United States.\nArrest this motherfucker!",
">\n\nHe doesn't need glasses..... add that to the list."
] |
>
"Everything" is misleading in the headline. I guarantee no one know "everything" he has lied about so far.
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?",
">\n\nSome of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news.",
">\n\nYou are their product, not information",
">\n\nHis entire life lol",
">\n\nI remember when a senator stepped down for a picture that came across as bad and sexually harassing. Now this guy won’t be made to resign because it could cost Republicans the speaker of the house.",
">\n\nNot a single word on this clown in r/Conservative",
">\n\nIs it really any surprise? He's a Republican. Party of the make believe.",
">\n\nSantos makes Trump look like a rank amateur.",
">\n\nIt's pretty much everything that he claimed during his campaign.",
">\n\nHard to believe he accused his opponent of being a liar, during the televised debate. Lying asshole republican, check.",
">\n\nThis is the new politics. Make up a bunch of shit, apologize, and claim that you are not a fraud…just gotta wear a red tee shirt while you’re doing it it many districts these days.",
">\n\nHe's blatantly Defrauding the United States.\nArrest this motherfucker!",
">\n\nHe doesn't need glasses..... add that to the list.",
">\n\nAt this point he might very well be a bunch of squirrels in a human suit. \nBoot this guy already."
] |
>
He has surely spoken since that was written.
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?",
">\n\nSome of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news.",
">\n\nYou are their product, not information",
">\n\nHis entire life lol",
">\n\nI remember when a senator stepped down for a picture that came across as bad and sexually harassing. Now this guy won’t be made to resign because it could cost Republicans the speaker of the house.",
">\n\nNot a single word on this clown in r/Conservative",
">\n\nIs it really any surprise? He's a Republican. Party of the make believe.",
">\n\nSantos makes Trump look like a rank amateur.",
">\n\nIt's pretty much everything that he claimed during his campaign.",
">\n\nHard to believe he accused his opponent of being a liar, during the televised debate. Lying asshole republican, check.",
">\n\nThis is the new politics. Make up a bunch of shit, apologize, and claim that you are not a fraud…just gotta wear a red tee shirt while you’re doing it it many districts these days.",
">\n\nHe's blatantly Defrauding the United States.\nArrest this motherfucker!",
">\n\nHe doesn't need glasses..... add that to the list.",
">\n\nAt this point he might very well be a bunch of squirrels in a human suit. \nBoot this guy already.",
">\n\n\"Everything\" is misleading in the headline. I guarantee no one know \"everything\" he has lied about so far."
] |
>
He has all the qualities that new Republicans are seeking in their candidates.
He lies, cheats, Bamboozles, deceives, with a conceitedness, that only a mother could love.
In other words, he’s the ideal Republican!
Make no mistake. Treason is definitely in his future.
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?",
">\n\nSome of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news.",
">\n\nYou are their product, not information",
">\n\nHis entire life lol",
">\n\nI remember when a senator stepped down for a picture that came across as bad and sexually harassing. Now this guy won’t be made to resign because it could cost Republicans the speaker of the house.",
">\n\nNot a single word on this clown in r/Conservative",
">\n\nIs it really any surprise? He's a Republican. Party of the make believe.",
">\n\nSantos makes Trump look like a rank amateur.",
">\n\nIt's pretty much everything that he claimed during his campaign.",
">\n\nHard to believe he accused his opponent of being a liar, during the televised debate. Lying asshole republican, check.",
">\n\nThis is the new politics. Make up a bunch of shit, apologize, and claim that you are not a fraud…just gotta wear a red tee shirt while you’re doing it it many districts these days.",
">\n\nHe's blatantly Defrauding the United States.\nArrest this motherfucker!",
">\n\nHe doesn't need glasses..... add that to the list.",
">\n\nAt this point he might very well be a bunch of squirrels in a human suit. \nBoot this guy already.",
">\n\n\"Everything\" is misleading in the headline. I guarantee no one know \"everything\" he has lied about so far.",
">\n\nHe has surely spoken since that was written."
] |
>
There’s always tomorrow for more lies
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?",
">\n\nSome of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news.",
">\n\nYou are their product, not information",
">\n\nHis entire life lol",
">\n\nI remember when a senator stepped down for a picture that came across as bad and sexually harassing. Now this guy won’t be made to resign because it could cost Republicans the speaker of the house.",
">\n\nNot a single word on this clown in r/Conservative",
">\n\nIs it really any surprise? He's a Republican. Party of the make believe.",
">\n\nSantos makes Trump look like a rank amateur.",
">\n\nIt's pretty much everything that he claimed during his campaign.",
">\n\nHard to believe he accused his opponent of being a liar, during the televised debate. Lying asshole republican, check.",
">\n\nThis is the new politics. Make up a bunch of shit, apologize, and claim that you are not a fraud…just gotta wear a red tee shirt while you’re doing it it many districts these days.",
">\n\nHe's blatantly Defrauding the United States.\nArrest this motherfucker!",
">\n\nHe doesn't need glasses..... add that to the list.",
">\n\nAt this point he might very well be a bunch of squirrels in a human suit. \nBoot this guy already.",
">\n\n\"Everything\" is misleading in the headline. I guarantee no one know \"everything\" he has lied about so far.",
">\n\nHe has surely spoken since that was written.",
">\n\nHe has all the qualities that new Republicans are seeking in their candidates. \nHe lies, cheats, Bamboozles, deceives, with a conceitedness, that only a mother could love.\nIn other words, he’s the ideal Republican! \nMake no mistake. Treason is definitely in his future."
] |
>
|
[
"It might be easier to list things (if there are any) where he actually told the truth.",
">\n\nHis first and last name seems to be about it 🤷🏽♀️\nWow edit to add- apparently he lied about that two 😐",
">\n\nDunno.... I heard he has aliases.",
">\n\nArt Vandelay, importer/exporter from Seinfeld",
">\n\nWhat does he import?",
">\n\nNothing",
">\n\nand that he was Jewish; he clarified that he meant “Jew-ish.”\nHas anyone seen Sacha Baron-Cohen lately? Cause this feels like comedy.",
">\n\nAll that through his poorly injected lips.",
">\n\nI know. Who did his work and where did he get it done? In a van behind Walmart?",
">\n\nSomeone should check his doctor's resume.",
">\n\n\nI think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is\n\nThat's Marjorie Trogdor Greene\nShe hates \"groomers,\" but she employed a dude who was tossed off social media for saying man-boy love was cool\nShe compared Biden to Hitler, which--given her attendance at white nationalist Nick Fuentes' conference--might not be an insult coming from her?\nShe accuses Biden of lying but when confronted with an actual compulsive liar she says let's give him a chance!",
">\n\nOh man, don't sully the great name of Trogdor, he doesn't deserve to have his name connected with this slimebag.",
">\n\n“Sullynate?”",
">\n\nEverything \nThere, saved you a click",
">\n\nUS politicians are rewarded for criminal behavior, you can pretty much guarantee the origins of this came out of the NRA and SCOTUS ruling on citizens United, which was spearheaded by Russian oligarchs.",
">\n\nHow is it possible that these things did not come out during the campaign?",
">\n\nSome of them did. Small, local reporters were covering it. After he won, the national press started picking it up. This proves one thing I say all the time: the mainstream media repeats too many stories over and over and over, till we have all heard them a dozen times, while ignoring really important news.",
">\n\nYou are their product, not information",
">\n\nHis entire life lol",
">\n\nI remember when a senator stepped down for a picture that came across as bad and sexually harassing. Now this guy won’t be made to resign because it could cost Republicans the speaker of the house.",
">\n\nNot a single word on this clown in r/Conservative",
">\n\nIs it really any surprise? He's a Republican. Party of the make believe.",
">\n\nSantos makes Trump look like a rank amateur.",
">\n\nIt's pretty much everything that he claimed during his campaign.",
">\n\nHard to believe he accused his opponent of being a liar, during the televised debate. Lying asshole republican, check.",
">\n\nThis is the new politics. Make up a bunch of shit, apologize, and claim that you are not a fraud…just gotta wear a red tee shirt while you’re doing it it many districts these days.",
">\n\nHe's blatantly Defrauding the United States.\nArrest this motherfucker!",
">\n\nHe doesn't need glasses..... add that to the list.",
">\n\nAt this point he might very well be a bunch of squirrels in a human suit. \nBoot this guy already.",
">\n\n\"Everything\" is misleading in the headline. I guarantee no one know \"everything\" he has lied about so far.",
">\n\nHe has surely spoken since that was written.",
">\n\nHe has all the qualities that new Republicans are seeking in their candidates. \nHe lies, cheats, Bamboozles, deceives, with a conceitedness, that only a mother could love.\nIn other words, he’s the ideal Republican! \nMake no mistake. Treason is definitely in his future.",
">\n\nThere’s always tomorrow for more lies"
] |
People on social media almost always misuse words.
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[
"People on social media almost always misuse words."
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Glad it's official.
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5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.
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"Glad it's official."
] |
>
They’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world."
] |
>
4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!"
] |
>
It was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.
Another potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3."
] |
>
How the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?
The last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.
It's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire."
] |
>
Patriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work."
] |
>
690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003"
] |
>
I feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days"
] |
>
They seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile."
] |
>
Any source for that?
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin."
] |
>
It’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.
The context was that they were being used that way.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?"
] |
>
Was the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way."
] |
>
Well he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember."
] |
>
Only blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed."
] |
>
that the tail rotor is pedal-powered
Wait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts."
] |
>
It’s pedal powered, so only for show!
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor."
] |
>
Here's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km.
They take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!"
] |
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And it has a range of 150km.
When dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).
The question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.
Edit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod."
] |
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I think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.
I think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system."
] |
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The Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.
So they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it."
] |
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TIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges."
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Accuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane."
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Bloomberg analyst calling Bradleys "in effect, light tanks" has really riled up the tank fandom.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade"
] |
>
...tank fandom?
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom."
] |
>
Oh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?"
] |
>
I’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should).
Maybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time."
] |
>
Maybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.
/r/treadpilled
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though."
] |
>
My hero!
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled"
] |
>
Another Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!"
] |
>
So what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails."
] |
>
To break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.
Now I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?"
] |
>
Trying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering."
] |
>
It has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian"
] |
>
But didn't it "work" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.
It never works against democracies.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work."
] |
>
It was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies."
] |
>
My understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out.
Anecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win."
] |
>
Would Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo."
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Yes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?"
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Outside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.
It'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given."
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From what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained."
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity."
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?"
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"Next year", so in 2 days?
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet"
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Is Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?"
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Almost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently."
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Afaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage."
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That probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck."
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>
I just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence "cruise") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks."
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They're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach.
The manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive.
Yeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?"
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450 MPH = 724.205 KPH
1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH
For non-Americans.
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds."
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Thanks for the equivalents
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans."
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Day CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents"
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Still fighting the good fight
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI."
] |
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Is it possible to get a post shadow-banned?
Look below airframe unfortunately.
Here is a screenshot when I am logged out.
Here is a screenshot when I am logged in.
Notice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.
Anyone else see this?
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight"
] |
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It's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.
Not sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too.
I've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?"
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I just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.
It's not visible logged out.
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"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered."
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Try deleting the word after "Their" after the sentence "This truth", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.
Edit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.
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"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out."
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This has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.
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"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here."
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Wasn't it even on some official RU media?
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"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram."
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Are there any recent analysis of how many missiles Russia has left?
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"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.",
">\n\nWasn't it even on some official RU media?"
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The latest batch had dates from autumn of this year, it's thought that the Russia can only produce 20 a month. So, potentially one last volley and then they'll have to wait 3 months or send a couple at a time randomly that should be easier to shoot down.
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.",
">\n\nWasn't it even on some official RU media?",
">\n\nAre there any recent analysis of how many missiles Russia has left?"
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Fuck Vladimir Putka
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.",
">\n\nWasn't it even on some official RU media?",
">\n\nAre there any recent analysis of how many missiles Russia has left?",
">\n\nThe latest batch had dates from autumn of this year, it's thought that the Russia can only produce 20 a month. So, potentially one last volley and then they'll have to wait 3 months or send a couple at a time randomly that should be easier to shoot down."
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Fuck Vikki Yanny
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.",
">\n\nWasn't it even on some official RU media?",
">\n\nAre there any recent analysis of how many missiles Russia has left?",
">\n\nThe latest batch had dates from autumn of this year, it's thought that the Russia can only produce 20 a month. So, potentially one last volley and then they'll have to wait 3 months or send a couple at a time randomly that should be easier to shoot down.",
">\n\nFuck Vladimir Putka"
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Fuck Vijayjay Putinanny
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"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.",
">\n\nWasn't it even on some official RU media?",
">\n\nAre there any recent analysis of how many missiles Russia has left?",
">\n\nThe latest batch had dates from autumn of this year, it's thought that the Russia can only produce 20 a month. So, potentially one last volley and then they'll have to wait 3 months or send a couple at a time randomly that should be easier to shoot down.",
">\n\nFuck Vladimir Putka",
">\n\nFuck Vikki Yanny"
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Say it with me now. Fuck Putin!
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"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.",
">\n\nWasn't it even on some official RU media?",
">\n\nAre there any recent analysis of how many missiles Russia has left?",
">\n\nThe latest batch had dates from autumn of this year, it's thought that the Russia can only produce 20 a month. So, potentially one last volley and then they'll have to wait 3 months or send a couple at a time randomly that should be easier to shoot down.",
">\n\nFuck Vladimir Putka",
">\n\nFuck Vikki Yanny",
">\n\nFuck Vijayjay Putinanny"
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Are we done yet? Can Russia like go home already. I know the the cemetery industry in Russia must be booming but like can we stop.
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.",
">\n\nWasn't it even on some official RU media?",
">\n\nAre there any recent analysis of how many missiles Russia has left?",
">\n\nThe latest batch had dates from autumn of this year, it's thought that the Russia can only produce 20 a month. So, potentially one last volley and then they'll have to wait 3 months or send a couple at a time randomly that should be easier to shoot down.",
">\n\nFuck Vladimir Putka",
">\n\nFuck Vikki Yanny",
">\n\nFuck Vijayjay Putinanny",
">\n\nSay it with me now. Fuck Putin!"
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Russia is so, so far from capitulating. Russia has never really "given up and gone home". They will stay in these regions forever unless they are forced out, which gets more unlikely every day.
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.",
">\n\nWasn't it even on some official RU media?",
">\n\nAre there any recent analysis of how many missiles Russia has left?",
">\n\nThe latest batch had dates from autumn of this year, it's thought that the Russia can only produce 20 a month. So, potentially one last volley and then they'll have to wait 3 months or send a couple at a time randomly that should be easier to shoot down.",
">\n\nFuck Vladimir Putka",
">\n\nFuck Vikki Yanny",
">\n\nFuck Vijayjay Putinanny",
">\n\nSay it with me now. Fuck Putin!",
">\n\nAre we done yet? Can Russia like go home already. I know the the cemetery industry in Russia must be booming but like can we stop."
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Russia has never really "given up and gone home".
1905, 1917, Afghanistan...they give up quite a bit.
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.",
">\n\nWasn't it even on some official RU media?",
">\n\nAre there any recent analysis of how many missiles Russia has left?",
">\n\nThe latest batch had dates from autumn of this year, it's thought that the Russia can only produce 20 a month. So, potentially one last volley and then they'll have to wait 3 months or send a couple at a time randomly that should be easier to shoot down.",
">\n\nFuck Vladimir Putka",
">\n\nFuck Vikki Yanny",
">\n\nFuck Vijayjay Putinanny",
">\n\nSay it with me now. Fuck Putin!",
">\n\nAre we done yet? Can Russia like go home already. I know the the cemetery industry in Russia must be booming but like can we stop.",
">\n\nRussia is so, so far from capitulating. Russia has never really \"given up and gone home\". They will stay in these regions forever unless they are forced out, which gets more unlikely every day."
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"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.",
">\n\nWasn't it even on some official RU media?",
">\n\nAre there any recent analysis of how many missiles Russia has left?",
">\n\nThe latest batch had dates from autumn of this year, it's thought that the Russia can only produce 20 a month. So, potentially one last volley and then they'll have to wait 3 months or send a couple at a time randomly that should be easier to shoot down.",
">\n\nFuck Vladimir Putka",
">\n\nFuck Vikki Yanny",
">\n\nFuck Vijayjay Putinanny",
">\n\nSay it with me now. Fuck Putin!",
">\n\nAre we done yet? Can Russia like go home already. I know the the cemetery industry in Russia must be booming but like can we stop.",
">\n\nRussia is so, so far from capitulating. Russia has never really \"given up and gone home\". They will stay in these regions forever unless they are forced out, which gets more unlikely every day.",
">\n\n\nRussia has never really \"given up and gone home\".\n\n1905, 1917, Afghanistan...they give up quite a bit."
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Fuck war ! Fuck lil 💩 tsar! Slava Ukrainian
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"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.",
">\n\nWasn't it even on some official RU media?",
">\n\nAre there any recent analysis of how many missiles Russia has left?",
">\n\nThe latest batch had dates from autumn of this year, it's thought that the Russia can only produce 20 a month. So, potentially one last volley and then they'll have to wait 3 months or send a couple at a time randomly that should be easier to shoot down.",
">\n\nFuck Vladimir Putka",
">\n\nFuck Vikki Yanny",
">\n\nFuck Vijayjay Putinanny",
">\n\nSay it with me now. Fuck Putin!",
">\n\nAre we done yet? Can Russia like go home already. I know the the cemetery industry in Russia must be booming but like can we stop.",
">\n\nRussia is so, so far from capitulating. Russia has never really \"given up and gone home\". They will stay in these regions forever unless they are forced out, which gets more unlikely every day.",
">\n\n\nRussia has never really \"given up and gone home\".\n\n1905, 1917, Afghanistan...they give up quite a bit.",
">\n\nAll we all need is one."
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Obligatory f*** Putin
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"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.",
">\n\nWasn't it even on some official RU media?",
">\n\nAre there any recent analysis of how many missiles Russia has left?",
">\n\nThe latest batch had dates from autumn of this year, it's thought that the Russia can only produce 20 a month. So, potentially one last volley and then they'll have to wait 3 months or send a couple at a time randomly that should be easier to shoot down.",
">\n\nFuck Vladimir Putka",
">\n\nFuck Vikki Yanny",
">\n\nFuck Vijayjay Putinanny",
">\n\nSay it with me now. Fuck Putin!",
">\n\nAre we done yet? Can Russia like go home already. I know the the cemetery industry in Russia must be booming but like can we stop.",
">\n\nRussia is so, so far from capitulating. Russia has never really \"given up and gone home\". They will stay in these regions forever unless they are forced out, which gets more unlikely every day.",
">\n\n\nRussia has never really \"given up and gone home\".\n\n1905, 1917, Afghanistan...they give up quite a bit.",
">\n\nAll we all need is one.",
">\n\nFuck war ! Fuck lil 💩 tsar! Slava Ukrainian"
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You can say it... fuck that guy. Seriously.
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"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.",
">\n\nWasn't it even on some official RU media?",
">\n\nAre there any recent analysis of how many missiles Russia has left?",
">\n\nThe latest batch had dates from autumn of this year, it's thought that the Russia can only produce 20 a month. So, potentially one last volley and then they'll have to wait 3 months or send a couple at a time randomly that should be easier to shoot down.",
">\n\nFuck Vladimir Putka",
">\n\nFuck Vikki Yanny",
">\n\nFuck Vijayjay Putinanny",
">\n\nSay it with me now. Fuck Putin!",
">\n\nAre we done yet? Can Russia like go home already. I know the the cemetery industry in Russia must be booming but like can we stop.",
">\n\nRussia is so, so far from capitulating. Russia has never really \"given up and gone home\". They will stay in these regions forever unless they are forced out, which gets more unlikely every day.",
">\n\n\nRussia has never really \"given up and gone home\".\n\n1905, 1917, Afghanistan...they give up quite a bit.",
">\n\nAll we all need is one.",
">\n\nFuck war ! Fuck lil 💩 tsar! Slava Ukrainian",
">\n\nObligatory f*** Putin"
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We need one more fuck Putin
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.",
">\n\nWasn't it even on some official RU media?",
">\n\nAre there any recent analysis of how many missiles Russia has left?",
">\n\nThe latest batch had dates from autumn of this year, it's thought that the Russia can only produce 20 a month. So, potentially one last volley and then they'll have to wait 3 months or send a couple at a time randomly that should be easier to shoot down.",
">\n\nFuck Vladimir Putka",
">\n\nFuck Vikki Yanny",
">\n\nFuck Vijayjay Putinanny",
">\n\nSay it with me now. Fuck Putin!",
">\n\nAre we done yet? Can Russia like go home already. I know the the cemetery industry in Russia must be booming but like can we stop.",
">\n\nRussia is so, so far from capitulating. Russia has never really \"given up and gone home\". They will stay in these regions forever unless they are forced out, which gets more unlikely every day.",
">\n\n\nRussia has never really \"given up and gone home\".\n\n1905, 1917, Afghanistan...they give up quite a bit.",
">\n\nAll we all need is one.",
">\n\nFuck war ! Fuck lil 💩 tsar! Slava Ukrainian",
">\n\nObligatory f*** Putin",
">\n\nYou can say it... fuck that guy. Seriously."
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there are never enough Fuck Putins... ... with a barbed wire pineapple
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[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.",
">\n\nWasn't it even on some official RU media?",
">\n\nAre there any recent analysis of how many missiles Russia has left?",
">\n\nThe latest batch had dates from autumn of this year, it's thought that the Russia can only produce 20 a month. So, potentially one last volley and then they'll have to wait 3 months or send a couple at a time randomly that should be easier to shoot down.",
">\n\nFuck Vladimir Putka",
">\n\nFuck Vikki Yanny",
">\n\nFuck Vijayjay Putinanny",
">\n\nSay it with me now. Fuck Putin!",
">\n\nAre we done yet? Can Russia like go home already. I know the the cemetery industry in Russia must be booming but like can we stop.",
">\n\nRussia is so, so far from capitulating. Russia has never really \"given up and gone home\". They will stay in these regions forever unless they are forced out, which gets more unlikely every day.",
">\n\n\nRussia has never really \"given up and gone home\".\n\n1905, 1917, Afghanistan...they give up quite a bit.",
">\n\nAll we all need is one.",
">\n\nFuck war ! Fuck lil 💩 tsar! Slava Ukrainian",
">\n\nObligatory f*** Putin",
">\n\nYou can say it... fuck that guy. Seriously.",
">\n\nWe need one more fuck Putin"
] |
>
Oh poor thing.
The pineapple I mean.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.",
">\n\nWasn't it even on some official RU media?",
">\n\nAre there any recent analysis of how many missiles Russia has left?",
">\n\nThe latest batch had dates from autumn of this year, it's thought that the Russia can only produce 20 a month. So, potentially one last volley and then they'll have to wait 3 months or send a couple at a time randomly that should be easier to shoot down.",
">\n\nFuck Vladimir Putka",
">\n\nFuck Vikki Yanny",
">\n\nFuck Vijayjay Putinanny",
">\n\nSay it with me now. Fuck Putin!",
">\n\nAre we done yet? Can Russia like go home already. I know the the cemetery industry in Russia must be booming but like can we stop.",
">\n\nRussia is so, so far from capitulating. Russia has never really \"given up and gone home\". They will stay in these regions forever unless they are forced out, which gets more unlikely every day.",
">\n\n\nRussia has never really \"given up and gone home\".\n\n1905, 1917, Afghanistan...they give up quite a bit.",
">\n\nAll we all need is one.",
">\n\nFuck war ! Fuck lil 💩 tsar! Slava Ukrainian",
">\n\nObligatory f*** Putin",
">\n\nYou can say it... fuck that guy. Seriously.",
">\n\nWe need one more fuck Putin",
">\n\nthere are never enough Fuck Putins... ... with a barbed wire pineapple"
] |
>
hahaha, gold.
|
[
"Glad it's official.",
">\n\n5 measly drones. Ladies and gentlemen, the second army of the world.",
">\n\nThey’re not even the second best army in Ukraine at this point!",
">\n\n4th best, next to foreign legion and ant pile # 3.",
">\n\nIt was speculated waaaaay back (Late February) that it was a potential reason why the ground forces of the invaders didn't seem to have any air support.\n\nAnother potential explanation is that the VKS are not confident in their capacity to safely deconflict large-scale sorties with the activity of Russian ground-based SAMs operated by the Ground Forces. Friendly-fire incidents by ground-based SAM units have been a problem for Western and Russian air forces alike in multiple conflicts since 1990. Running joint engagement zones in which combat aircraft and SAM systems can engage enemy forces simultaneously in a complex environment without friendly-fire incidents is hard; it requires close inter-service cooperation, excellent communications and regular training to master. So far, Russian forces have shown extremely poor coordination across the board, from basic logistics tasks, to coordination of airborne assaults with ground forces activity and arranging air defence cover for columns on the move. In this context, it might be the case that the decision was made to leave the task of denying the UkrAF the ability to operate to the ground-based SAM systems, with the explicit understanding that this would be instead of large-scale VKS air operations. However, once again, this is not a sufficient explanation in itself, since given the limited fighter and SAM assets available to Ukrainian forces at this stage, the VKS could still have conducted large-scale sorties against key targets at pre-arranged times, during which Russian SAMs could be instructed to hold their fire.",
">\n\nHow the fuck do they not have effective IFF in 2021?\nThe last time the US shot down their own place looks like it might be 1991, and they've fought actual wars since, albeit one sided.\nIt's insane that even corrupt Russia has their shit this out of order, particularly because this is the kind of shit that foreign buyers expect to work.",
">\n\nPatriots shot down a couple coalition fighters in 2003",
">\n\n690 today. Still higher than average. Some pretty heavy fighting these last few days",
">\n\nI feel like 8 tanks is the most I’ve seen in awhile.",
">\n\nThey seem to be keeping the tanks further back and using them as artillery instead of pushing forward and using them for assaults. Because those assaults seem to end up with a lot of scrap metal for their efforts. Praise be, Saint Javelin.",
">\n\nAny source for that?",
">\n\nIt’s unclear how many tanks are used this way, but already some weeks ago, Russian milbloggers were having an argument whether using tanks as artillery was a good idea or not.\nThe context was that they were being used that way.",
">\n\nWas the last dude the one who was just going to launch missiles all the time? I can't remember.",
">\n\nWell he did launch missiles all the time. Just the ukrainians failed to be impressed.",
">\n\nOnly blown up so that NATO analysts don't discover that the tail rotor is pedal-powered, and, you know, all the illegally imported western parts.",
">\n\n\nthat the tail rotor is pedal-powered\n\nWait, does it have a tail rotor? Usually dual overhead rotor helicopters don't have a tail rotor.",
">\n\nIt’s pedal powered, so only for show!",
">\n\nHere's a quick summary so anyone can understand. It's not a high tech weapon, it's actually the lowest tech weapon you can make. And it has a range of 150km. \nThey take an air dropped bomb that has GPS guidance. They strap that bomb to a rocket. They put the whole thing in a HIMARS compatible pod. 6 of these missiles fit in the pod.",
">\n\n\nAnd it has a range of 150km. \n\nWhen dropped from a pretty high altitude (don't hold me to any of this, it's all from rough memory, 12,000 feet gets you 80km if I remember correctly with the best jdam upgrades - and yes, I know the units are mixed, that's to get everyone equally riled up, just kidding, that's the units whatever source I was listening to was giving last week).\nThe question is going to be can Ukraine fly that high without major losses. I hope the answer is yes with the S-300s busy doing what airdefence ^currently doing.\nEdit: I was talking about just the airdropped version. That has the potential to be useful as well as this system.",
">\n\nI think /u/CyberdyneGPT5 is mixing up two things. This article is about strapping a Mk-81 (250 lb. 99 lb. warhead) bomb to a rocket and hot-gluing that mfer to a rocket and launching it from the HIMARS vehicles.\nI think someone else is also advocating air-launched JDAM (1000 lb.) bombs, but this article ain't it.",
">\n\n\nThe Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnipro’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings, but not flood nearby villages.\n\nSo they're saying the damaged sluices were from Ukrainian attacks? It makes sense since it would make no sense for Russia to partially explode a crossing they could have wired with demolition charges.",
">\n\nTIL HIMARS is so accurate you can target an exact spot to make holes in a specific floodgate from the shrapnel. That is insane.",
">\n\nAccuracy about to get better with the coming upgrade",
">\n\nBloomberg analyst calling Bradleys \"in effect, light tanks\" has really riled up the tank fandom.",
">\n\n...tank fandom?",
">\n\nOh indeed. That's a thing. Big time.",
">\n\nI’m imagining subreddits like /r/TankPorn (which exists) as well as things like /r/tanksfuckingrussians (which does not exist but should). \nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though.",
">\n\n\nMaybe a tank feet subreddit dedicated to treads. Can’t think of a clever name for it though. \n\n/r/treadpilled",
">\n\nMy hero!",
">\n\nAnother Russian caught wearing Nato/Ukrainian uniform pieces on the battlefield. One more thing to make Russia pay reparations for after the trails.",
">\n\nSo what exactly is Putin trying to achieve now? He didn't capture Ukraine in 3 days, and now it's been turned into a war of stalemate. What exactly is he hoping for now that would magically turn the war into his favour?",
">\n\nTo break Ukraine's (the populations) resolve. He has basically laid out a diplomatic way to end the war which would be Ukraine agreeing to the annexation of the 4 regions that Russia wants and holds most of (not including Crimea which would be part of the agreement). He is hoping that making life as miserable as possible for the Ukraine population (constant power outages in sub zero temperatures, constant fear of missile strikes) might cause the majority to push for the Ukraine government to agree to Russia's terms.\nNow I don't think this will work but I also understand that it's a minority of the population that live in those 4 regions, furthermore as a large chunk of that territory has already been under Russian control for many years now I can see how at least some of the Ukraine population who don't have friends and family from those regions could believe that Ukraine should accept those terms to end their suffering.",
">\n\nTrying to break an enemies' resolve with attacks on civilian targets never works. Ask Hitler about the battle of Britian",
">\n\nIt has worked exactly once. And it took two nukes, the firebombing of Tokyo, the destruction of basically the entire Japanese Navy, and about a million Soviet soldiers moving towards Vladivostok for it to work.",
">\n\nBut didn't it \"work\" only because they were afraid that US would nuke Tokyo and kill Imperial Family? It was not about Japanese civies, but the Emperor.\nIt never works against democracies.",
">\n\nIt was a combination of factors. The lack of any naval support, the hammer-and-anvil aspect of the US invading from the south while the Soviets hit from the north, the threat to the Emperor, and some of the higher command finally realizing that while they could make us bleed they couldn't actually win.",
">\n\nMy understanding is that it worked because much of the wartime industry that was interspersed with residential areas was wiped out. \nAnecdotally, my ex’s grandfather owned a factory in Tokyo that made airplane parts. It was destroyed by bombing and the family had to flee Tokyo.",
">\n\nWould Ukraine be able to logistically handle several hundred M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles?",
">\n\nYes. Logistically a mature platform like the Bradley has a lot of expertise from the US. They [Ukraine] just need to know how to use it and do some maintenance tasks. There's expert support in Poland and Germany that can do major repairs. US also has them covered on ammunition supplies and applications of whatever variants are given.",
">\n\nOutside repairs are convenient in theory, unless Poland pulls a Poland again. Like they did when they asked the Germans to hand over PzH2000 IP if they wanted to set up a repair center, so it had to be done in Lithuania instead. Poland's greed added several days of just shipping to get a PzH repaired, instead of just doing it at the Polish border.\nIt'd be ideal for UA to make repairs inhouse, especially if instead of only low double digit PzH2000's there'll be hundreds of Bradleys floating around. Let's hope the technicians are already being trained.",
">\n\nFrom what I read it was Germany pulling a Germany again: they demanded Poland to provide them a large hall for the repairs, raw materials, that Poland would pay ALL the expenses (including accommodation and wages for workers transported there from Germany) AND finally that no Polish personnel was allowed in the premises, because, you know, trade secrets. I’m sure these were generous terms and it failed only because of Poland’s greed and stupidity.",
">\n\nWhere did you read this?",
">\n\nOn the Internet",
">\n\n\"Next year\", so in 2 days?",
">\n\nIs Russia still using nuclear missiles without warheads as decoy? Haven't heard anything about that recently.",
">\n\nAlmost every cruise missile that Russia possesses is dual-purpose. They can deliver both conventional warheads or nuclear warheads. That one case where a dummy warhead was found was likely a mistake rather than a decoy. These missiles are not cheap, I seriously doubt they are going to waste a missile intentionally to act as a decoy when they can just put an explosive on it and do more damage.",
">\n\nAfaik they are extremely inaccurate, which doesn't matter so much with a nuclear warhead because even if the nuclear blast is 1 km off, you are still dead. But with a conventional warhead you can't really hit anything without extreme luck.",
">\n\nThat probably doesn't matter as much to the Russians as they are, clearly, more interested in committing terror attacks.",
">\n\nI just saw the recent videos of Ukrainian soldiers intercepting Russian cruise missiles with portable anti-air weapons. The missiles are moving so slowly. Are cruise missiles suppose to be that slow (hence \"cruise\") or is it just with those particular Russian missiles?",
">\n\nThey're still traveling quite fast at cruise speed, subsonic but 450 miles per hour for a KH-101. They can burst higher than that on approach. \nThe manpads are firing at a short burst of 1,600 mph, so the relative speeds can be deceptive. \nYeah, I suck for doing that in MPH but it'll help us Americans understand with our 65-75 MPH highway speeds.",
">\n\n450 MPH = 724.205 KPH\n1600 MPH = 2574.95 KPH\nFor non-Americans.",
">\n\nThanks for the equivalents",
">\n\nDay CCCX, Part I. Thread CDLI.",
">\n\nStill fighting the good fight",
">\n\nIs it possible to get a post shadow-banned?\nLook below airframe unfortunately.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged out.\nHere is a screenshot when I am logged in.\nNotice that huge post there, only visible when I am logged in.\nAnyone else see this?",
">\n\nIt's happening a ton lately on sources I used to regularly share. It's automatic generally.\nNot sure what changed but certain Twitter accounts and other sites are instantly hidden. These are credible sources too. \nI've given up on trying to track it and just accept some of what I post will be filtered.",
">\n\nI just tried several variations. Your theory seems to be incorrect. I just posted with no links at all in the post. No mention of any twitter handles. Just text.\nIt's not visible logged out.",
">\n\nTry deleting the word after \"Their\" after the sentence \"This truth\", in every place it's mentioned. Specific words are censored.\nEdit: The post is still visible when clicking on your name, but does not show up in this thread. That tells me there are certain words used that are filtered from being shown here.",
">\n\nThis has been disputed all day yesterday, since the source seems to be a rumour spread on Telegram.",
">\n\nWasn't it even on some official RU media?",
">\n\nAre there any recent analysis of how many missiles Russia has left?",
">\n\nThe latest batch had dates from autumn of this year, it's thought that the Russia can only produce 20 a month. So, potentially one last volley and then they'll have to wait 3 months or send a couple at a time randomly that should be easier to shoot down.",
">\n\nFuck Vladimir Putka",
">\n\nFuck Vikki Yanny",
">\n\nFuck Vijayjay Putinanny",
">\n\nSay it with me now. Fuck Putin!",
">\n\nAre we done yet? Can Russia like go home already. I know the the cemetery industry in Russia must be booming but like can we stop.",
">\n\nRussia is so, so far from capitulating. Russia has never really \"given up and gone home\". They will stay in these regions forever unless they are forced out, which gets more unlikely every day.",
">\n\n\nRussia has never really \"given up and gone home\".\n\n1905, 1917, Afghanistan...they give up quite a bit.",
">\n\nAll we all need is one.",
">\n\nFuck war ! Fuck lil 💩 tsar! Slava Ukrainian",
">\n\nObligatory f*** Putin",
">\n\nYou can say it... fuck that guy. Seriously.",
">\n\nWe need one more fuck Putin",
">\n\nthere are never enough Fuck Putins... ... with a barbed wire pineapple",
">\n\nOh poor thing.\nThe pineapple I mean."
] |
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