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Because of the implication | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution."
] |
>
Are you going to hurt these gameshow contestants? | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication"
] |
>
No I would never do that... But the implication... | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?"
] |
>
Contestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.
Least exploitative reality show | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication..."
] |
>
seriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show"
] |
>
But then they could save $50/person by not paying them... | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget"
] |
>
Found the Studio accountant. 😜 | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them..."
] |
>
From what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜"
] |
>
It was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else"
] |
>
30 minutes....?
Some of us have to hold position for eight hours... | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time"
] |
>
Eight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours? | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours..."
] |
>
I can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.
In MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game.
Whereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?"
] |
>
It's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how."
] |
>
Also for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold."
] |
>
You aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light.
Back in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it.
Legend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions"
] |
>
This is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change."
] |
>
fr jaywalking is an imaginary crime | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming."
] |
>
Yeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime"
] |
>
And Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia"
] |
>
Did they not watch the show? | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog."
] |
>
What did they expect? Pillow fights? | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?"
] |
>
That'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was "play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose," not, "play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out." | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?"
] |
>
Big difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\""
] |
>
Right, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads."
] |
>
You’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts."
] |
>
No, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:
The issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.
There was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening"
] |
>
This was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed."
] |
>
Read the comment again. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time."
] |
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I've seen a couple "Squid Game Reality" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go "hey! we should make that a reality" takes a particular level of greed | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again."
] |
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Capitalism go BRRRRRR! | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed"
] |
>
But did you die? | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!"
] |
>
Sadly yes, but i lived! | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?"
] |
>
I just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!"
] |
>
The British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.
That history has one dirty annal. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice."
] |
>
You should always prepare for annal night. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal."
] |
>
The critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the "game". The "inhumane conditions" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the "set".
If the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night."
] |
>
this. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.
for example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable."
] |
>
Genocide Island
Please tell me that was not an actual reality show. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set."
] |
>
'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'
Hmm... | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show."
] |
>
So ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm..."
] |
>
Yea, that's the problem. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself."
] |
>
Method directing | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem."
] |
>
You’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱
Quelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming? | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing"
] |
>
Why do so many miss the point here? | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?"
] |
>
Because you’d have to read the article to not miss the point | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?"
] |
>
If you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.
I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.
Putting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point"
] |
>
Read the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not "buyer beware", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point."
] |
>
What I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.
The first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit."
] |
>
They would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.
Whether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime."
] |
>
You can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).
Unfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there."
] |
>
"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games" one source said...
Fucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued."
] |
>
I think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now."
] |
>
Ya but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show."
] |
>
My teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other."
] |
>
Your teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story"
] |
>
I know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false."
] |
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I can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video."
] |
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People apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it."
] |
>
The irony alone is just amazing. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult."
] |
>
Irony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing."
] |
>
MrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize."
] |
>
NETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN
NETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games."
] |
>
I wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER"
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Honestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest."
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Yeah, it's not particularly oniony | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub."
] |
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You can call this, Method shooting (a show). | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony"
] |
>
“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?” | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show)."
] |
>
This is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?! | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”"
] |
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Sounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!"
] |
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It's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition"
] |
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did i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about."
] |
>
And probably did it significantly better | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this."
] |
>
Method producing | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better"
] |
>
I’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash… | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing"
] |
>
Too much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…"
] |
>
I almost went on this show lol | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game."
] |
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Me watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3! | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol"
] |
>
Media litteracy is dead and we have killed it | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!"
] |
>
I mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold? | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it"
] |
>
I mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?"
] |
>
They mean the conditions were "realistic and authentic". | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps."
] |
>
I signed up for an inhumane game.
I was surprised it was inhumane. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\"."
] |
>
They signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.
In the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane."
] |
>
So quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.",
">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved."
] |
>
They'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people.
They were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition? | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.",
">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.",
">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly."
] |
>
I think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.",
">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.",
">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.",
">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?"
] |
>
At any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.",
">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.",
">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.",
">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?",
">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed."
] |
>
From reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.
Edit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.",
">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.",
">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.",
">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?",
">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.",
">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it."
] |
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I mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.",
">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.",
">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.",
">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?",
">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.",
">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.",
">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind"
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"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.",
">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.",
">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.",
">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?",
">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.",
">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.",
">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind",
">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner."
] |
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No, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated.
Read the article. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.",
">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.",
">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.",
">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?",
">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.",
">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.",
">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind",
">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.",
">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?"
] |
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ITT: victim blaming | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.",
">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.",
">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.",
">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?",
">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.",
">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.",
">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind",
">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.",
">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?",
">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article."
] |
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I don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.",
">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.",
">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.",
">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?",
">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.",
">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.",
">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind",
">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.",
">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?",
">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.",
">\n\nITT: victim blaming"
] |
>
I don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.",
">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.",
">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.",
">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?",
">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.",
">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.",
">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind",
">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.",
">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?",
">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.",
">\n\nITT: victim blaming",
">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim."
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People in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article. | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.",
">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.",
">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.",
">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?",
">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.",
">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.",
">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind",
">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.",
">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?",
">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.",
">\n\nITT: victim blaming",
">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.",
">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim"
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Weird. Its almost like TV is not real life | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.",
">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.",
">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.",
">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?",
">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.",
">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.",
">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind",
">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.",
">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?",
">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.",
">\n\nITT: victim blaming",
">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.",
">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim",
">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article."
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"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.",
">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.",
">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.",
">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?",
">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.",
">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.",
">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind",
">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.",
">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?",
">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.",
">\n\nITT: victim blaming",
">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.",
">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim",
">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.",
">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life"
] |
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Netflix: "That's the idea, ya." | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.",
">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.",
">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.",
">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?",
">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.",
">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.",
">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind",
">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.",
">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?",
">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.",
">\n\nITT: victim blaming",
">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.",
">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim",
">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.",
">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life",
">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show."
] |
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Just like hamster squid game | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.",
">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.",
">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.",
">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?",
">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.",
">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.",
">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind",
">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.",
">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?",
">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.",
">\n\nITT: victim blaming",
">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.",
">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim",
">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.",
">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life",
">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.",
">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\""
] |
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It's amazing how many people pass judgment here without reading the article. The GamE iS InhUManE WhaT dId YoU ExpEct.
Please tell me where in the show everyone needed to stand still for 30 minutes in sub zero temperatures, I'll wait! | [
"Life imitating art imitating life",
">\n\nonce the documentary about the reality show comes out, it'll be imitating art again.",
">\n\nWhy can't you ever make a documentary about the thing you plan to make a documentary about?",
">\n\nI like Community",
">\n\nOh, that is nice.",
">\n\nPop Pop!",
">\n\nThe real Squid Game is in the execution.",
">\n\nBecause of the implication",
">\n\nAre you going to hurt these gameshow contestants?",
">\n\nNo I would never do that... But the implication...",
">\n\n\nContestants — who weren’t paid to participate in the series — say they were told the actual game would take roughly two hours to play and shoot, but instead that turned into an almost seven-hour ordeal for some contenders. All of this was carried out in an unforgiving U.K. cold snap that saw temperatures drop to zero degrees Celsius in Bedford on the day of filming. A number of contestants collapsed on set — likely due to a combination of cold and fatigue from the eight hours of prep time before the game even started.\n\nLeast exploitative reality show",
">\n\nseriously how hard would it have been to chuck an Extra's pay of $50 or whatever at each. would be a blip on the budget",
">\n\nBut then they could save $50/person by not paying them...",
">\n\nFound the Studio accountant. 😜",
">\n\nFrom what I’ve heard it wasn’t even the games that were the problem. It’s everything else",
">\n\nIt was the fact that they were freezing in an airplane hangar, and that it was being run like a TV show set rather than a competition, and the competitors had to hold positions for 30+ min instead of getting rest time",
">\n\n30 minutes....?\nSome of us have to hold position for eight hours...",
">\n\nEight hours? Are you a professional red light green light player? What on earth makes you freeze in an exact position for eight hours?",
">\n\nI can understand why they were surprised at the inhumanity of it, especially when compared to MrBeast’s Squid Game.\nIn MrBeast’s game, all of them were paid for their appearance and paid extra in random prizes during the games and the game was done in relatively comfortable conditions with realistic timelines set for the game. \nWhereas in Netflix game, it was done in the cold and apparently none were paid before hand. And for some reason Red Light Green Light took 7 hours. Literally how.",
">\n\nIt's hard to stand perfectly still in the cold.",
">\n\nAlso for 30+ min at a time, everyone has played Red-light green-light before, but no one has done it in these conditions",
">\n\nYou aint never played RLGL if you never waited half an hour on red light. \nBack in my day, the leader would call red light, go home to dinner, watch some prime time television, go to bed, and then, before school, they'd consider saying green light. You had to wait there, motionless, hungry, bored, and tired. You had to earn it. \nLegend has it some kids never stopped waiting for that light to change.",
">\n\nThis is how people in the UK learn to ignore the red lights and just walk over as long as no cars or police are coming.",
">\n\nfr jaywalking is an imaginary crime",
">\n\nYeah fr everywhere except like Germany and Scandinavia",
">\n\nAnd Austin TX, where the police body slammed a 19 year old college girl for jaywalking when she went out for a jog.",
">\n\nDid they not watch the show?",
">\n\nWhat did they expect? Pillow fights?",
">\n\nThat'd be pretty close to the show, yes. The whole deal was \"play harmless relatively easy children's games, then fucking die if you lose,\" not, \"play a several-hour grueling endurance competition in freezing cold until you pass out.\"",
">\n\nBig difference is in the show, if they quit they died. In the reality competition, if they quit they.. *checks notes * didn’t win the prize money. No one was holding a gun to their heads.",
">\n\nRight, so you would figure they'd keep it similar while removing the inhumane parts. Instead they took out the inhumane parts and added checks notes different inhumane parts.",
">\n\nYou’re missing the part where every single participant could have walked off if they didn’t like what was happening",
">\n\nNo, I'm not, that doesn't change anything. Gonna copy a comment I made elsewhere:\nThe issue is: is it ok to allow people to harm themselves for someone else in exchange for cash? The generally accepted answer to that is no. We require jobs to implement safety measures as much as possible, they can't just advertise openly that they're unsafe to get by those laws. We require sports to not just kill its players, and that's moving more and more towards player safety; gladiator arenas featuring willing contestants are right out.\nThere was nothing necessary in what happened here. It wasn't even an intended part of the game. It was due to negligence. The ability to opt out does not and should not preclude them from responsibility for that, unless game shows are given some special exception that no profession or sport is allowed.",
">\n\nThis was a competition not a job. We let people play football, hockey, race cars, box, MMA, in exchange for pay all the time.",
">\n\nRead the comment again.",
">\n\nI've seen a couple \"Squid Game Reality\" shows pop up here and there and have decided to not watch a single one of them. The entire point of the show was that treating humans in that way for entertainment was morally corrupt as you prey on their desparation. To look at Squid Game and go \"hey! we should make that a reality\" takes a particular level of greed",
">\n\nCapitalism go BRRRRRR!",
">\n\nBut did you die?",
">\n\nSadly yes, but i lived!",
">\n\nI just watched the movie 2 days ago. Nice.",
">\n\n\nThe British native was among roughly 228 contestants immediately eliminated from “Squid Game: The Challenge” on Jan. 23 in a game of “Red Light Green Light” that will go down in the annals of reality TV history.\n\nThat history has one dirty annal.",
">\n\nYou should always prepare for annal night.",
">\n\nThe critique of inhumane conditions are attributed to the filming process, not the games per say. It's hard to believe that standing still in the bitter cold, hours at a time, was part of the \"game\". The \"inhumane conditions\" were probably a result from the long periods of time between shooting takes and poor preparations on the \"set\". \nIf the long standing time, living conditions, and chilling weather were part of the game for the show, that's a different conversation (moral or not). Which is unlikely since there are allegations of the game being rigged to favor certain contestants; that the producers would like to see for future games. I wouldn't be surprised if they already narrowed it down to the top 12 before the start of games, and have those actually compete for the grand prize when the games are more manageable.",
">\n\nthis. just because the show is inhumane-themed, doesn't necessarily mean the experience itself is designed to be inhumane.\nfor example, the contestants of the Australian reality show Genocide Island actually praised the accommodations off set.",
">\n\n\nGenocide Island\n\nPlease tell me that was not an actual reality show.",
">\n\n'I’m good at them. They’re games of chance, luck and wit.'\nHmm...",
">\n\nSo ... it was more accurate to the show's message than the original series itself.",
">\n\nYea, that's the problem.",
">\n\nMethod directing",
">\n\nYou’re telling me a reality show based on a scripted show about a game where only one person makes it out alive was a nightmarish disaster? 😱\nQuelle horreur! Who could’ve foreseen that coming?",
">\n\nWhy do so many miss the point here?",
">\n\nBecause you’d have to read the article to not miss the point",
">\n\nIf you go on a reality show, you kind of have to expect that you're going to be exploited.\nI'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying you're naive if you don't expect to be exploited.\nPutting you through uncomfortable situations, exploiting your drama, is the entire point.",
">\n\nRead the article. They were explicitly lied to about the nature of the challenges and the conditions they'd be in. That's not \"buyer beware\", it's false advertising. I'd be amazed if this doesn't end in a class action lawsuit.",
">\n\nWhat I'm really confused about is... why didn't people just leave? They weren't being paid. They must know there's a very very slim chance they'd actually win that cash prize against 200ish other contestants to begin with, and seeing how the show was handled should've made them seriously reconsider their chances.\nThe first time someone tells me to stand perfectly still for 20 minutes without a jacket in freezing weather is when I tell them to go fuck themselves and call a taxi. Pretty sure denying access to toilets is a crime.",
">\n\nThey would have had to sign some stuff in order to participate, and part of that may have included an obligation to go through with the entire shoot.\nWhether or not that's actually enforceable never really stops companies from putting it in there.",
">\n\nYou can't actually consent to inhumane treatment in most of the developed world. It makes the contract legally void (not 100% sure about the UK, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have some clause for that in their contract laws).\nUnfortunately a lot of people do not know this and put up with a lot more than they should for fear of getting sued.",
">\n\n\"Squid game isn't supposed to be about hardship. It's about games\" one source said... \nFucking lol. I bet when all those ppl getting shanked across multiple rounds were thinking about the game aspect of the situation. Then again the show is filmed in the U.K. so maybe that's part of the tomfoolery over there now.",
">\n\nI think you're missing the point. None of the games in the show were as hard as this real one. They were kids' games, played almost exactly like the kids play, the only difference being the consequences for losing. If they wanted to have some cutthroat stuff between rounds, sure, but the idea they'd be in a several-hour endurance competition in freezing cold is absolutely inconsistent with the games in the show.",
">\n\nYa but most of the people wouldn’t have been eliminated in the tv show if people weren’t being actively killed during the process. So to get a winner during a game show naturally it’ll be harder to thin the herd since the cast can’t hurt each other.",
">\n\nMy teacher was in this lmao, he came back telling stories about people getting hypothermia, cramps and other things, he was near the front of the pack so he couldn’t turn around to see what was going on behind him but he could just hear people screaming for the medic. The reason it was so horrible was because they were playing red light green light in freezing temps but instead of just pausing for 5-10 seconds they were paused for like 30 minutes so that Netflix could film all the different angles and stuff. He claims his sensor went off falsely because he didn’t actually move, at first we didn’t believe him but then he showed our class a video that he took of a bunch of people whose sensors went off right before the finish line and they were all chanting, “WE DIDNT MOVE! WE DIDNT MOVE!” The game is rigged, the conditions are horrid and Netflix F’d up. End of story",
">\n\nYour teacher wouldn’t have had his phone to be taking videos so… this is false.",
">\n\nI know this is reddit and people lie all the time but I am for real right now, I think they were given their phones back once they got out, I will edit this comment after class on Monday, if I can get it I will also post the video.",
">\n\nI can absolutely confirm, without being able to say why, that players did NOT receive phones back until the next day at the hotel. I'm not able to say why, but you can probably figure out how I would know but also not be able to talk about it.",
">\n\nPeople apply to be on game show based on inhumane conditions. Are surprised when it’s difficult.",
">\n\nThe irony alone is just amazing.",
">\n\nIrony poisoning is too much. The Squid game was a commentary on how capitalism makes us tear each other apart for the prize.",
">\n\nMrBeast’s Games > Netflix squid games.",
">\n\nNETFLIX (San Diego) - LET'S FILM A SHOW OUTDOORS IN BRITAIN \nNETFLIX (Amsterdam) - I'LL PENCIL IT IN FOR DECEMBER",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone actually read the article? People were expecting to go and play difficult games, and be eliminated, what they didn't expect was to be standing still in a jump suit in freezing temperatures for HOURS whilst the TV crew got the right shots. They were lied to about how long it would take. That's fucked up, that's not what they signed up for, it's poor organisation, they need more staff, more cameras. It just sounds like a shitty situation. And yeah they could of left but it's super irresponsible for netflix to dangle millions of pounds in front of people so they will stand in the cold for hours, and they knew people would stay otherwise they would have postponed the shoot. People went expecting a game show, not a competition to see who could withstand hypothermia the longest.",
">\n\nHonestly this post doesn't even belong in this sub.",
">\n\nYeah, it's not particularly oniony",
">\n\nYou can call this, Method shooting (a show).",
">\n\n“Ok, except in our version, instead of killing you, we’ll make you so uncomfortable that you’ll wish you were dead….deal?”",
">\n\nThis is what they need to raise prices to fund? This bs?!",
">\n\nSounds like this guy was expecting some Mr. BEAST type of competition",
">\n\nIt's crazy how many people aren't bothering to read the article before commenting, or they'd know that the hours spent in freezing temperatures wearing flimsy jumpsuits that they weren't even allowed to zip up wasn't even something the producers planned on, let alone informed the contestants about.",
">\n\ndid i read correctly that it took red light green 7 hours to shoot and they had to hold poses for 30 min a time? how dumb. Mr. beast already did this.",
">\n\nAnd probably did it significantly better",
">\n\nMethod producing",
">\n\nI’ve worked on some terrible productions, and being cold, standing around etc. really are the norm. While supporting artists and crew will be used to it and expecting it, I guess the randomers signing up will not be, so extra levels of care are needed. With 400+, that’s a big ask, but it’s not like Netflix doesn’t have the cash…",
">\n\nToo much pursuit of reality. My life itself is actually more difficult than a squid game.",
">\n\nI almost went on this show lol",
">\n\nMe watching Netflix post L when I could be watching Inside job part 3!",
">\n\nMedia litteracy is dead and we have killed it",
">\n\nI mean this show was filmed in the UK in the midst of winter. How did netflix not expect this to be very cold?",
">\n\nI mean, the games in the shows are literal death traps.",
">\n\nThey mean the conditions were \"realistic and authentic\".",
">\n\nI signed up for an inhumane game.\nI was surprised it was inhumane.",
">\n\nThey signed up for a humane game that had inhumane consequences for losing. They expected the games to be the same, just with the killing at the end to be removed. This is a reasonable expectation. What they got were games much more inhumane than we're ever featured in the show.\nIn the show, they at least had a chance to fight for food. These people were just starved.",
">\n\nSo quit? Walk off the set if the conditions are that terrible for fucks sake. Sorry that multi-million dollar prizes aren't just handed out willy nilly.",
">\n\nThey'd likely already committed significant resources to getting there. They weren't paid at all to appear. Just going to a film set for free is a large undertaking for many people. \nThey were lured there by implicit lies. There is a very clear expectation about what this would look like, and the reality of it was not even close to that. Do you believe it's moral to promise someone a ton of money to play kids' games in order to lure them into taking vacation and traveling across the country, only to put them in a freezing endurance competition?",
">\n\nI think if I'm offered the chance to win 4+ million dollars, I would either suck it up and participate, or quit if I couldn't handle it. That's it. Maybe I just have a different mindset than other people, but from watching reality tv over the years I would expect it to be very difficult with that kind of money on the line, regardless of what the producers claimed.",
">\n\nAt any point they could have stopped competing and walked away from the competition. So they willfully chose to stay in the ‘conditions’ they are complaining about. Sounds like it kind of sucked. Def would have not done it in the first place and if I had found myself there, I would have walked off the ‘set’ or out of the hanger or however you want to phrase it.",
">\n\nFrom reading the article, it sounds like they were transported to and from the set by the showrunners and also had their phones taken away. So no, they most likely could not have just “chosen” to leave whenever they wanted.\nEdit: also they were straight-up lied to about the conditions they signed up for. That’s an important detail to keep in mind",
">\n\nI mean, they could have chosen to leave. I don't think they were held prosoner.",
">\n\nThey were not being held prisoner, but they were bussed to the filming location… do you expect them to just walk back?",
">\n\nNo, but the article says they had clothing on site for those who quit and were eliminated. \nRead the article.",
">\n\nITT: victim blaming",
">\n\nI don't know how choosing to stand still and be cold for a massive amount of money makes you a victim.",
">\n\nI don’t know how being lied to and exploited so a corporation can make money off of you without doing anything to ensure your safety makes you anything other than a victim",
">\n\nPeople in this comments section are so far up netflix's ass and don't have an ounce of sympathy, probably didn't even read the fucking article.",
">\n\nWeird. Its almost like TV is not real life",
">\n\nCan't wait until they release \"Battle Royale\" the reality show.",
">\n\nNetflix: \"That's the idea, ya.\"",
">\n\nJust like hamster squid game"
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