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FreeCAD: Scene doesn't look 3D
I finished a 3D object for 4 wheels, but something seems wrong with the final scene to me:
The nearer wheels (#1 and #2) appear smaller than the far one (#3 and #4), and the distance between wheel #3 an #4 seems longer than between (1) and (2), like you can see in this picture:
I want to achieve the scene like this:
How to do that in FreeCAD?
Welcome to SE.3DP! Your question is not specifically on-topic for 3D Printing Stack Exchange, it may be on topic for another Stack Exchange site.
You might want to consult the manual at https://www.freecadweb.org/wiki/Getting_started
FreeCAD, like many other 3D programs (including blender) does use Isometric/Orthographic display as the default displaying option as it allows to see on one view if some lengths or angles are "equal".
In many cases, a perspective view can be toggled on to allow visualization in a room, especially for architectural one.
In the case of FreeCAD with all its options, this option gets swamped out of the user's field of view sometimes, and the documentation is not that easy to navigate without a proper keyword, making the right thing slightly hidden in the documentation. But once you know it, it should be obvious:
View > Perspective View toggles to perspective view.
View > Orthographic View toggles back to isometric.
CAD programs uses parallel view not perspective view.
So the length of 2 objects with the same length are displayed as 2 objects with the same length on the screen.
This is better for constructing stuff.
while you explain WHY Isometric/Orthographic is chose, it does not explain how to switch to perspective
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Abnormal Extruding
My printer stops about every 5 minutes and it gives me the error message "Abnormal Extruding". I have changed the heat setting up and down on the extruder, but it doesn't help. I have adjusted the bed, the speed and the problem is still there. Can someone help, please and thank you
Hi Nelson and welcome to 3D Printing.SE! Please [edit] your question and add what type of printer you have. It might be beneficial to add the extruder type and what you are printing and how you created the print files.
without more information, we can't possibly help. What circumstances, what printer, is that just one gCode or all?
Please help us help you, add the printer type and firmware type, otherwise it is impossible to help you! Please take the [tour] and read [ask] to update your question so that it is possible for people to help you. If you found a solution, please share this by posting your answer and accept it after 48 hours.
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Filament extrusion always stops at some point during print
I own a Creality CR-10 (using Ultimaker Cura for slicing) and I am experiencing terrible printing problems.
My problem: I am not able to print anything that takes several hours to print. For parts printed in 30 minutes or so, my printer usually works.
The prints end up like this (unfinished and with a lot of stringing)
This below is actually the best result I got so far.. (important note: there is no under extrusion during the print, it suddenly stops out of nowhere..)
(Although I have to use terrible retraction settings and need a lot of post processing because of all the stringing - you might have an answer for that too.. I just couldnt get the 3d printer to print parts properly with good retraction settings.)
The problem is that at some point of the print, no more (PLA) material is extruded and the printer moves without actually printing anything. The first couple of layers usually work (you can see that in the images) but after wasting almost 600 grams of PLA, I am not able to find a solution myself.
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I have some suspicions:
Could the problem be the angle, the PLA is inserted into the feeder? (so that it is almost a 90 degree bend)? The filament comes from a spool in the right hand side. But I dont think that this would cause such a problem..
Is it a software problem? Here are all my cura settings (I even reduced the printing speed to 30mm/s at 205°C - still didnt work..) :-(
Could the length of the bowden tube and it tangling up be a problem? (as you can see in the image below)
And annother important thing: The feeder always grinds into the filament (even at those low retraction settings) and it is always very hard to pull the filament out of the bowden after a failed print. Sometimes its almost impossible and i have to use heavy tools for it.. that should be the probelem
I already did some atomic pulls, replaced the nozzle and switched the bowden tube.
I have a dream: My printer printing a part without any stringing and actually finishing the print. Please help me to achieve this dream..
Thank you for your help in advance. :)
(and the filament I used, sorry for the bad quality of the pic)
I've had a similar issue once. It was caused by very slight misconfiguration in filament feed rate (my printer tried to push through too much filament). While it was technically overextruding, I didn't realize that until I measured my extrusion lengths. Overextrusion could also contribute to stringing.
When you pull out the filament from your extruder after a print failure, does it have a thicker end? If so, it could be a sign of trying to push too much filament.
On the left is the filament I pulled from the extruder after a normal print - you can see it only gets thinner and has a long end. In the middle is a very pathological case - that shouldn't happen unless something is very wrong. On the right is how the filament was when I had my extruder feed rate misconfigured - you can see the dents from gear biting too hard into it, and a slight bulge.
What I think happened in my case, is that filament gets melted in the hotend, some of it gets pushed through the nozzle, the excess wells up into the heatbreak, where it solidifies and bonds to walls, causing blockage and difficulties pulling it out.
As to how to fix it (if it's indeed the cause) - if you configured printer's firmware yourself, you may need to tweak steps/mm for the extruder.
It looks like your printer runs Marlin firmware, which allows you to configure steps/mm from your LCD. You could also use PC software such as Pronterface to connect to your printer and tweak steps/mm parameters (alongside with other things). Here's a guide for checking and adjusting extruder steps/mm value. Though thick marker lines are not the best for measurement.
You can also measure how much filament exits your bowden tube with calipers when you move it from printer LCD.
If you don't want to mess around with firmware and steps/mm settings, you can adjust flow rate in Cura, although in that case you'll have to experiment with it and waste even more filament. I'd advise you to check for other possible issues first.
As the other answer has said, this could be caused by temperature creep too, with similar symptoms - filament melting in the heatbreak.
A long and bendy bowden tube could cause issues, but I'd expect underextrusion+grinding from that, whereas you don't see any underextrusion. Just to be sure, you could try pushing filament by hand (with other hand holding the lever on your extruder to release the filament) - it shouldn't take much force to move it all the way to extruder, and it shouldn't take much force to push it through the hotend either.
Yet another thing to check is whether your filament gets dented by the extruder gear during normal print. Just insert it until the hotend without holding the lever on extruder and pull it out - it should be as smooth and round as it was before insertion. If it has dents from the extruder gear, that could also be the source of your problems. In that case, you'll need to reduce tension on your extruder spring, or if it's non-adjustable, then get another spring or shorten the existing one.
As the last thing to check, does this happen with other filaments, especially single-color ones? Maybe this particular filament doesn't play nice with your hotend because of those black dot inclusions.
So, short list of things to check:
Check extruder steps/mm
Check force on pushing filament through bowden tube (by hand)
Check extruder gear tension
Try another filament
Thank you very much for your help! I will try to fix these issues. Actually, the end of the filament i pull out is thicker than 1.75mm so that might be it!
One more question: i adjusted my extruder gear tension so that it is just right (lower and the filament slips and higher tension and the filament gets extremely dented) but even though i think its good like that, my filament is not perfectly round after pulling it out of the bowden.. Until now i thought, that would be normal. Its not too bad just small knurls of the extruder gear.
@DonaldEnte well, there are tolerances for filament width and smoothness, so if the gear only deforms it a tiny bit, it could be fine. Severely deformed filament could easily get stuck in the hotend though. Compare your knurls to what I have on the right on the photo - what I had probably also caused issues for me. Also could be unusually soft filament.
@DonaldEnte It is very normal the the end is thicker! Nothing to worry about, the filament is 1.75 mm, the liners 2 mm, that explains the thicker end.
Why did you add the middle piece of filament, it would never come out a tube like that...
@knah Thank you very much. After some testing, I was able to fix all problems (including the stringing problem) of my 3d printer!
Stringing?
The stringing is explained by your relatively low retraction settings, 1.5 mm is not much for a Bowden setup. As do too high printing temperatures.
Stopping mid printing?
What you are experiencing is called clogging, the extruder cannot push the filament through the hotend and cause the grinding you report. Clogging mid printing is usually caused by insufficient cooling (for the temperature you print at) of the cold end (causing heat creep; slowly increasing temperature of the heat break), especially all-metal hotend assemblies are notoriously known for this problem.
Your Bowden tube does make a lot of kinks, maybe you can improve the path of the Bowden tube. Also if you are concerned about the sharp filament intake angle, you could print a filament guide:
Thank you, I will try to fix those things. Do you think my problem is software related or is it the hardware? I can only fix this issue by buying a new hotend?
@DonaldEnte - Get known issues fixed first, then move onto the next problem (if there is a "next problem*). I'm betting your main issues are mechanical having to do mainly with the Bowden tube and how it is run ... that's some pretty healthy kinking going on there.
Clogging implies heat creep, and heat creep implies overly hot printing temperature (assuming that the heat break cooling is vaguely normal). Printing too hot can also cause excessive stringing, so reducing print temp might kill two birds with one stone.
I had the same thing! On my anycubic I3 mega.
Tried a lot of stuff and got so sick of it so I installed a 10:1 gearbox on my extruder motor. So now it provides 10x more torque and since I havent got the issue anymore where the extruder is just grinding on the filament and the motor is just skipping steps.
No because of this and because my anycubic won't connect to a pc I can't change settings on my printer so I resolve the ratio with 1000% flow in my cura settings. And other stuff is also affected.
But at least it won't stop and just be sitting there and skipping steps.
So the additional gearbox is a solution? An extruder stepper motor with a planetary gearbox would probably solve the issue in a similar way. Note that this stepper has been discontinued, but an equivalent is the 3325_O. I wrote about this motor in this blog The extraordinary extruder
BTW, your other comments about subsequent issues encountered are useful but sort of cloud,or confuse, your actual solution of using the gearbox.
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Printrbot Metal Plus wireless printing with ESP3D
Several years ago, I purchased a Printrbot Metal Plus with a dual extruder option and the LCD attachment/accessory. Printrbot has now gone out of business, and the USB connection isn't working very well for reasons I'm not quite sure of (It has native USB that emulates a UART connection to a computer, but it hasn't connected to Cura since a few months after I bought it, not that I really noticed at the time).
I have been printing via the LCD control accessory for all print jobs since, both due to it being more convenient and due to the USB not working.
Since it would be more convenient (and also because the remaining single point of failure concerns me when dealing with equipment this expensive), I would like to connect an ESP8266 with the ESP3D firmware to my printer. This would allow wireless printing and control of the printer from a web or network interface. I even have several ESP8266 modules lying around waiting to be programmed from an unrelated project.
https://github.com/luc-github/ESP3D
My problem is that, due to the extra controller board for the second print head and due to the LCD being installed, I am not sure if the hardware UART (there's supposed to be one somewhere, but it wasn't well broken-out since the controller uses USB instead) is being used or is available right now.
I'm also not even sure where on the motherboard it is (assuming it even has one), since, with the folding of the company, most of the documentation seems to have evaporated.
https://reprap.org/wiki/Printrboard#Schematic
The above URL is the only resource I was able to find with details on that. I read it some time ago, but wasn't really able to map the pins to the board layout or the descriptions on the chip. On my check just now, I wasn't even able to find a UART.
Does anyone know enough about these printers to say where to look for a UART or to tell whether it's used by one of the attachments I have?
Notes:
I would also be happy with a method to convert a UART to USB and back, assuming that it's my computer that's having issues connecting and not the printer.
I have also tried Octoprint, but that has its own issues, namely that I have to use a Raspberry Pi and that some of the configuration needs to be done on the Pi itself, as well as the corruption possibility and I suspect a different use case. One advantage of using the ESP8266 is that it is mostly safe from corruption and its main software is read-only.
I am not certain what board revision is used in my printer, since it arrived pre-assembled and I'd rather not open up the case (it's really nasty to try to get to, since you have to flip the entire thing over).
I would thus appreciate any help you can give in finding any documentation that might say which it is or that directly applies to a board so that I can modify the instructions to suit my case should that part differ.
Similarly, I never was able to figure out what exactly the dual-head daughterboard is despite some effort, and that was back when the site existed still. The documentation was never the best; it was fine up until you need to replace the firmware or figure out what exactly is actually in there, since most of this seemingly wasn't actually written down. IIRC, they even said some time later that they no longer shipped with it, so I have no idea.
Welcome to 3dPrinting.SE!
Did you get to find out an answer? I am in a similar quest. I'd like to enable the Marlin firmware to use RX1 and TX1 (there are pins 5 and 7 of EXT1). I did what I thought are the correct firmware changes with no success.
BTW: this is my situation: https://3dprinting.stackexchange.com/questions/8320/printrboard-rev-d-rx1-and-tx1-second-serial-port-marlin
I have not heard anything. Your answer does seem to make mine less likely. Unless I can rebuild the firmware and enable that port, with the changes Printrbot probably made and which may now be lost since they folded, it may not even be possible to use that port if it DOES exist?!
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Clogging due to heat creep: buy new cooler or new hotend?
Sadly, I am not able to "repair" my 3D printer. Every time, I want to print something that takes a bit longer to print, the extrusion stops at some point during the print (the first few layers are great), no under-extrusion whatsoever before that critical point.
I already tried temperature variation (185-220 °C) with about 5 different brands of 1.75 mm PLA.
I tried printing without any retraction, but failed (I also experimented with flow rate a lot and calculated the perfect percentage etc.)
Everytime a print fails, it is a nightmare to remove the PLA filament from my Bowden tube (because it expanded near the nozzle and is stuck in the Bowden tube). I have to pull with so much force, that I already cut myself several times because I slipped off my pliers.
As I know for sure (I already wasted almost 1kg of PLA for my testing) the problem is heat creep = heat travelling from the heat block to the PLA above because the heat break or fan seem to be broken.
So my question is: "Will it be enough to buy a new cooling fan (as the standard fan doesnt seem to be powerful enough)?"
I have to add that I already bought the original hotend long time ago and I tried printing with the "fan of the first hotend" and with the "fan of the second hotend" (the fan that blows air towards the cold end) so that might not be the problem.
Or do I need a totally new hotend? (with heatbreak etc.)
My printer is a Creality CR 10, and I'm using Ultimaker Cura 3.6.
Or is it enough to buy a new heating block + heat break? (I don't know if the cooling fan is the problem or the heat break).
Can you check if your heat break is PTFE lined? If it is and the tubing has slipped upward, you'll get something akin to your description.
What exactly do you mean? I think that the PTFE tube connects to the nozzle without any gaps.
Maybe you could add an image of the extruder/nozzle assembly?
I can infer that you have a bowden setup, but nothing else about the topology of your hotend.
Is it just me or does it seem that the vast majority of mechanical problems posted here are for Creality printers?
@CarlWitthoft I think, you are right.. at least my printer caused plenty of issues in the past several months..
To fight heat creep, you must understand why this is happening.
Heat creeps up the hotend assembly (into the cold end) as a result of incorrect settings or hardware setup causing the filament to prematurely soften and swell.
It is important to reduce the heat travelling upwards in the first place rather than fighting the result. Too high print temperatures are an obvious culprit, but also print speed and retraction length are important. These need to be dialed in in perfect harmony.
Even when you buy a complete new hotend or parts for the hotend, incorrect settings may lead to the same results. It is known that all-metal hotends (due to the lacking of a thermal barrier PTFE liner in the heat break shielding the filament of excessive heat input) are more susceptible to encounter heat creep and should generally be avoided by less experienced makers.
Whether or not you should buy new parts depends on the current extruder, your ability to fix it (and the willingness to put in more effort to try) and the knowledge to install new parts and find the correct settings for optimal printing. There is no unambiguous answer to this question.
Thank you. I have had my Creality CR-10 for quite a while now and the first several months, it worked perfectly.. I think, I will replace the fan and in addition to that, I will reset cura. And I'll buy new isolation "tape" for the heat block. Hopefully, it works..
I resorted to google to find a candidate image which might be similar to your hotend.
Now, it is safe to assume that a like-for-like replacement will not improve matters significantly. It is also a good assumption that the performance gap which you need to close is small. Presumably you know how much time you need to wait for the creep to manifest itself so are part way along to being able to perform some heat flow calculations.
The mass of the cold-end here is small, and there is maybe next to no additional metal on the cold side (compared with direct drive, where the servo acts as thermal damping).
You ought to be able to perform static testing - a thermocouple thermometer should be cheaper than running a spool of filament, and all you are interested in is the temperature rise at the hot side of the cold end after 'time to fail'. If you can achieve a halfing of this rise, you're on the way to achieving a 4x longer print run (or better). If you test with zero filament flow, you should see a worst-case result since there is no cold material flow into the cold end.
The one obvious improvement to make with the specimen above which I found on Amazon would be to duct the fan, so airflow is forced past the fins. A side benefit will be reduced cooling of the hotend.
A further improvement, if there are any metal parts in the carriage, would be to remove the anodizing and use thermal transfer grease to increase the effective heatsink size (assuming that the fan also provides airflow over this metalwork.
You might find a larger cold end heatsink (more air surface area over the fins), that might be a worthwhile improvement - but it depends on the mechanical constraints of your printer.
If it's a printer stock, no modifications, obviously you don't need to change the hot end, Creality did not release a printer without testing it. At least, no such extreme issues can be expected.
Check the fan power, wear, and settings.
This comment does not allow for the common problem to many things: a product is not perfect. It is entirely possible that a printer was released with marginal cool-end cooling. The problem wouldn't show up during normal test prints, and may be limited to long prints in a particular environment. Not every good product is perfect for every user.
Cooling the hot-end heat sink may be the key. My first step would be to try ducting so the all the air from the fan flows through the fins of the heatsink. To keep it easy and be a quick experiment, use cardboard (or business cards) and tape. Check the controls to be sure the fan is running at full power. You should feel air passing theough the fins. You can not cool it too much.
For cleaning out pla from tubes, nozzles, and hot ends, I use a hot-air heat gun.
Do you know by chance, how strong the fan should be? Because I can only feel a light breeze coming out of it..
A light breeze should be enough iff most of the air participates. Air that blows past the heat sink does nothing. I solved this problem on a Thing-o-Matic with a business card, ty-wraps, and tape.
Oh... I had to add a small fan, since the Thing-o-Matic was passively cooled.
So you built some kind of funnel to direct the airflow? Do you have a picture of your solution? thank you in advance
I'm not home. If yours looks like the picture in another answer, i would just put a flat duct from the sides of the fan to the heat sink, taped to the sides of the heatsink. If it was easy, maybe a card from the top of the fan to the top of the heatsink.
It only needs to be better, not perfect.
There is a different, much simpler possible answer, that I see posted nowhere, and after changing many many things on my setup I have finally figured out....
Clean the built-up dust off your heatsink and fan.
Undo the 2 screws and clean the dust off.
While this can help, the constant airflow of the hotend cooling fan prevents dust from settling there in the first place.
I have a cheap Chinese all-metal CR-10 hotend. I used to have a lot of heat creep, but after I setup my only 30x30 mm fan as a part fan to be 100 % at all times to cool the heat sink and retract 10 cm of filament after finishing the print, the heat creep went away.
You can add this G-code after finishing the print to retract 10 cm of filament:G1 E-100 F1200, so it prevents the filament to cool down and expand inside the heat sink.
Another good way is setting up a fan to be up all the time to cool the heat sink. Since I don't have a heated bed and have a single fan, I've wired my fan to D8 pin (for RAMPS 1.6), then setup Marlin:
#define MOTHERBOARD BOARD_RAMPS_14_EFF at Configuration.h
Make sure src/pins/linux/pins_RAMPS_LINUX.h has:
#elif ENABLED(IS_RAMPS_EFF) // Hotend, Fan, Fan
#define FAN_PIN RAMPS_D9_PIN
#define FAN1_PIN RAMPS_D8_PIN
At Configuration_adv.h:
#define E0_AUTO_FAN_PIN FAN1_PIN
...
#define EXTRUDER_AUTO_FAN_TEMPERATURE 50
#define EXTRUDER_AUTO_FAN_SPEED 255 // 255 == full speed
#define CHAMBER_AUTO_FAN_TEMPERATURE 30
#define CHAMBER_AUTO_FAN_SPEED 255
This means that your extruder 0 will have a fan connected at D8 pin running 100 % after it hits 50 °C all the time, thus helping with the heat creep issue.
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Exhaust air solution
Can you think of a preferably cheap solution for me? I need a machine that pumps air out of my 3d printing enclosure, about 4 meters of pipe length. (From enclosure to window) What kind of pump or fan can pump air out of the enclosure (4m pipe length) at the lowest possible price and low volume?
I need it for cooling purposes and for better general air quality in my room after opening the printer enclosure.
It doesn't need to be top notch equipment, just enough for my purposes.
Get a used cpap machine
Air flows from places of higher pressure to those of less.
Minimal setup
I propose to look at a very simple setup which works for short lengths of pipe:
Choose if you want a radial fan of a direct passing fan. get one, measure the intake and the outlet side holes
cut a fan inlet-sized hole directly into the back of the enclosure.
mount your fan onto it, most likely with some kind of foam to keep the airstream in.
get a flexible air vent hose (I have seen ~$10/10€ for a 100mm one) and measure the inner diameter.
print an adapter from the fan outlet to the vent hose.
mount the adapter, then the hose, use clamps to secure it.
lead the air vent hose to the window and out or into a wall through.
Even if the airstream doesn't seem to be very fast, you could test it with smoke to see that it will blow out the air on the other end of the hose. The large diameter lets quite some air out with just a "gentle" airstream. This is not a very efficient system though, as we build up a pressure in the pipe the fan wors against.
efficiency gains
To gain efficiency, we should move the fan away from the machine and closer to the outlet. That means, we need to increase the fan power. If you can get your hand on, for example, an in-pipe motor, that would be a solution, but usually an expensive one. If you are good with electrics, you could use a blower from an electric cloths-drier. You might get a clothes-drier to strip the motor from really cheap, for example from a renovation, recycling facility or Craigslist, e-bay or any other auction or classifieds-page.
Or you build your own from an electric motor (you could use your machine's power supply here), a housing made from wood and an impeller, which you can get as a "Dryer Blower Wheel" spare part for under $50. If you connect the power for its motor through a regulatable resistor, you could even control its spinning speed.
To cope with the suction, we need to use aluminium flex pipe on the arm between machine and exhaust.
go big
If you want to go industrial like if you want to run a laser cutter, you will need to go industrial in the vent size too. You use pretty much the same diameter aluminium flex pipe and a much stronger motor than the drier one, and you don't mount the motor directly to the machine back but somewhere downstream as it's rather loud. For what to look for in that case, I found a very good article here. Note though, that this is not a small setup, but you could possibly vent a whole batch of printers through one pump, using some airstream cutoffs to control which ones get currently evacuated.
I strongly recommend putting the fan at the exit port of the ductwork. Most fans work much better dumping into open air (no back-pressure).
@CarlWitthoft true for most applications with a huge air movement. I would actually go with a two-fan solution (one to blow air into the machine to aid in having a pressure gradient, one sucking out)
@CarlWitthoft expanded on that thought - kinda the "middle ground" on pricing.
Well you can get a centrifugal fan and put it at either end of the pipe. You didn't specify a pipe diameter so I'll assume it's 1 inch. Just hook the pipe up to the exhaust. You will have to design and print an adapter.
I already tried using a standard fan but it was way to weak.. do you really think such a fan has enough power to blow air over 4 meters of pipe? The other fan I used could only creat a nice wind in a range of 30 cm...
@DonaldEnte there's no such thing as "standard fan" :-) . If you want to use a squirrelcage, pick one to match your ductwork diameter and check the CFM (cubic ft/minute) output rating.
@CarlWitthoft Do you know a specific squirrelcage fan that will do the job for me? Because I am not really a fan specialist and dont want to buy something that doesnt work for me.. :-)
mybe the VKO Turbo 150 pipe fan?
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Printrbot Metal Plus with new Cura
I am still using the originally-suggested version of Cura (for Ubuntu) for my Printrbot Metal Plus (NOT to be confused with the Simple Metal).
My printer was one of the ones with two print heads, and I'd like to make sure that configuring the new Cura software (mine is getting a bit odd due to age and possible slight incompatibility with the OS after all this time) goes correctly.
However, the new versions of Cura no longer list this printer, only having the Simple Metal in the list of preconfigured options.
How much might the manual "add printer" option break my configuration, and will anything cause actual damage to the printer (head/bed collisions, wrong axis measurements, etc)?
Or is there a way to copy the preset options from the old version to the new one? (NOT the .ini file that has MY saved configs, but the default file(s) that the setup wizard uses when opening the program and choosing a printer.)
All the alt-text is showing as white, and I can't connect via USB anymore. I can't quite confirm that it's due to it being old, but it's probably a good idea to update it by now, I assume.
[EDIT: My computer died, and took with it that old edition of cura. I have a replacement now, but I can't get that version anymore (to run or to get the settings out of). Does anyone have a list of settings or a config for say, PrusaSlicer or modern cura?]
Have you tried installing the new version and add a custom 3D printer? It is not very hard to set up. You need a few parameters like printer volume sizes, filament diameter and firmware flavor. It shouldn't be that difficult. Why not install a new version next to the old and update the question when you run into setup problems? Note that limits and printer configuration are in the firmware.
atp that, cura allows to export printer settings. from which version do you want to switch zto which?
I've never had to migrate before, and I also didn't know how that data got stored. I did somehow cause the print head to crash into the print bed hard enough to render it permanently dented in one corner once, so I was a bit leery to take my chances.
Still, is there no way to add "default" printers to modern Cura?
You can add any printer to Cura or any other tool you want to use. It just need same basic settings as bed volume, firmware flavor, amount of extruders and bed center options. It isn't that difficult to add yourself.
I don't need to worry about microstepping or Z-increases per layer, etc? How much is it safe to leave default? I also know that it used custom start/end gcode...
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3D printer and design software for creating propellers for a toy airplane/drone
I would like to begin designing and 3D printing propellers for both a toy airplane and drone that I own. I want to do this for experimental purposes.
I have never used a 3D printer nor have I used any 3D printing design software. So as a beginner to both of these things, I would like to know what would be the best type of 3D printer to use to create propellers for toy aircraft and I would like to know what is currently regarded as the easiest-to-use 3D design software for creating objects such as airfoils.
Also, at this time, the most I want to pay for a 3D printer is $500.
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because shopping and recommendation questions without a very narrow scope are out of the scope of any Stack Exchange
The 3d printer is irrelevant here. What you're asking is 'how to use CAD programs' , and even that is a small part of the problem. You can easily design a propellor that works, but if you want it efficient and low-noise, then you need a lot of knowledge about fluid dynamics.
Hi HRIATEXP and welcome to SE.3DP..! Unfortunately your question has been closed as both a [shopping] recommendation and for being too broad. However, it won't get auto-deleted as it has some up votes. In future try to ask questions that are specific to one particular issue. You can join us in [chat], have a look at the on-topic page (although that is in a state of flux) and don't forget to take the [tour]. Thanks :-)
Thingiverse.com has a bunch of propellers you can download and print. Choice of printer varies from kits you need to assemble, a great way to learn what's really involved, to more expensive ready to go systems.
First, welcome to 3D Printing SE. This is a great place to ask questions and get answers from people who have walked the same path. I see from your profile that you are not a stranger to StackExchange and the available sites.
This question may be too broad for this SE Group, as it is asking for opinions rather than facts. We try not to ask questions about "what is the best printer", or "what software is the best". We avoid it both because it will change frequently, and because the answer needs to be gauged in your context, not the answerer's. We have some tools and community guidelines that suggest how to formulate the best questions.
Never-the-less, it is very hard when starting to even know how to make the first step, so with the indulgence of the group and your patience, I will make a suggestion or two. These come from my experience and your's is surely different.
To try out 3D printers you may have resources the don't require buying one yourself. It doesn't seem that 3D printing is the end goal for you. You want to use 3D printing as a way to manufacture several experiments. To access a 3D printer, it could be productive to check for local makerspaces, public libraries, or high schools with 3D printing capability. You may find a friend you 3D prints who would be happy to run some objects for you. You might even find it cost-effective to send designs to a service bureau such as 3D Hubs. Note: I have no relationship with the company, although I did use their services once.
With the printing side temporarily in abeyance, you can focus attention on the design side.
If you are familiar with programming, you might be able to use either OpenSCAD or SolidPython as a design tool. If you want something graphical, it might be worth trying OnShape. NOTE: I know at least one of the founders of OnShape, but have no investment nor role in the company. There are many design tools available. For designing technical parts, I think you want tools more focused on technical than aesthetic content.
I would avoid purchasing a printer unless you want 3D printing and 3D printers to be part of your project. People have mixed stories with many brands of printer, and lower-cost printers often become projects in themselves. They can be satisfying, rewarding, and learning-driven projects, but can distract you from your prime intention for a long time. In my case, I wanted to print boxes for projects, and prototypes for larger wood carvings. I designed a printer, acquired materials, built it, and spent 3 years playing with it. Along the way, I made some useful prints. Eventually I was tired of not having a reliable 3D printer, and I wanted to reliably make things. I needed a printing appliance. So I bought a mid-range printer (which works very well for me), and I don't mess with it (much).
So, a broad answer in response to a broad question. Welcome to 3D printing, the hobby and the StackExchange site.
thanks for those suggestions. Now that I think of it, it would be a good idea to first learn how to use design tools/software and then send my propeller designs to someone, or some 3d printing service, that will 3d print my propellers and then ship those to me.
I'll second the learning to design aspect of your quest. It will be the most productive use of your time and effort, in my opinion. Consider also to search for makerspaces in your area, which will have members to print for you and possibly advise for your design goals. There are as many design programs available to the common man as there are 3D printers.
At the current price you can get a decent 3D printer ($200 or less), making trips back and forth to a maker space for each round of prototyping really doesn't make sense unless you're operating on an extremely tight budget. IMO we're to the point where dedicated spaces are more for taking a look at the tech before you start and for occasional use of specialized higher end equipment you don't otherwise have access to. Nobody uses computer labs/cyber cafes anymore...
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Upgrade Ender 3 with Diamond Hotend
As I want to print with multiple colors I plan to upgrade my Ender 3 with the diamond hotend.
So far I found all information I need, except what power supply I need for my RUMBA board.
Can I use the default Ender 3 power supply or do I need an additional power supply or wires?
Parts I am going to order:
1x Lite6 Heatsink
3x Diamond Universal mount
1x 12 V 40 W 6 mm x 20 mm Cartridge Heater Reprap For 3D Printer
1x Thermistor 100K 1 % NTC Temperature Sensor Line for 3D Printer
1x Fan 50x50x15 mm 12 V 125 mA
1x Diamond Hotend Insulator
1x Nema17 stepper motor 48 mm 1.8° 42BYGHW804 1.2 A 5.5 kg•cm
3x MK8/9 Dual Extruder Feed Device Part For 3D Printer 1.75 mm Filament
3x Bowden tube 1 m with fitting 4/2 mm (for 1.75 mm filament)
1x RUMBA 3D printer controller board
6x StepStick DRV8825 Stepper Motor Driver
Ender 3 is a 24v printer so you have to address the heater and fans at minimum.
The RUMBA boards run up to 36 V, so reusing the (24 V) power supply from your printer should be fine. As the 2 extra steppers do not take much extra power (note you are ordering only 1!), your supply should be sufficient. Note that a 12 V heater cartridge is not going to work on a 24 V board (you'll get a massive overshoot and probably over-temperature warnings and printer shutdowns).
Thanks! Your answer really helped me. I changed the 12 V heater cartridge to 24 V and added two extra stepper motors.
@Janik In total you need 3 stepper motors, you could salvage 1 from the current extruder,so that you need to order 2 not 3. But, I would also order 3 to have 3 the same.
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Enable pins with RAMPS and M542T stepper drivers
So, I've been building a very sturdy 3d printer (also in the future hopefully a cnc router), strongly based on this: Arduino Controlled CNC / 3D Printer Hybrid
I'm using a RAMPS (1.4, will upgrade to 1.6 in a few days), M542T drivers and NEMA 23 motors, I got everything to work pretty well already, but so far, I haven't connected the motor enable pins from the RAMPS to the drivers. But, I don't actually get what they are good for, I think I know what they do, when a signal is sent to them (sort of lock or unlock the movement of the motor), but the printer looks to be working fine. Still, I wanted to connect them just to have everything made properly.
I found a problem, when I tried to connect enable pins, I'm not using stepper drivers which plug into the RAMPS, so I have to run cables between them. When the X/Y/Z_ENABLE_ON in marlin are on 0 (active low) are set, everything works, well as it should I guess (or inverted I'm not sure if the M542Ts need high for enabling the motors or low), I connected the pins and when I try to move any axis, it doesn't, when I disconnect the cable the given axis moves, so I was thinking that they need high signal to work. Went to marlin, se enable_on to 1 (active high), went back, had everything connected, everything moved. But, I tried to disconnect the individual wires to see if it works as it should (when disconnected the motors shouldn't turn when given a signal I thought). The X axis moved when enable was connected or disconnected, Z also, Y one motor was moving regardless of enable connection, 1 behaved even weirder, moved in only one direction. I have pul+, dir+ and enable+ connected to 5V, pul-, dir-, enable- to the RAMPS as in this:
https://3dtoday.ru/upload/main/b03/%...%B0%D1%802.jpg
Tho I have also seen it the other way somewhere, like this:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qvM7BrO1wE...mps_TB6560.png
(the M542Ts have 5V in parenthesis next to the pul+, dir+ and ena+ inputs, so I thing the way I have it right now I have it correctly, but I don't even know what could be wrong to be honest)
How would I get these to work correctly?
Can you better explain to me what they actually do? Also, could you perhaps help me a bit with the connections and Marlin settings to get them to work for the bigger drivers?
Welcome to 3dPrinting.SE!
Please check the links. You have supplied truncated (...) links which clearly will not work. I have (hopefully) fixed the first one and pointed it to the correct Instructables page. If people can't see your images then that will reduce your chance of getting a good answer.
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Upgrade hot-end to achieve higher temps (e.g. for PETG)
I'm struggling to get my printer to the temps required for modified PETG (the filament I have is Fillamentum CPE and recommends 255-275 °C), I currently can only reach 245/250 °C even if my target temperature is above that. The hot-end is fully ceramic wrapped and metal (no PTFE liner to worry about) and the printer is in a DIY heat shielded enclosure (non-heated).
The printer is an old (but gold) Wanhao Duplicator 4 (Rep 1 clone) with a MK8/9 extruder running a custom build of Sailfish. I know there is a firmware cap at 280 °C but that's fine, I don't intend to go above that.
Bar totally swapping out the extruder assembly what can I do to up the hot-end temperature, upgrade the power supply, heater cartridge?
What PETG do you have that recommends 255-275? Typical recommended range for PETG is 220-250 °C, though I'd say the minimum is more like 230 or 235. Have you tried printing it at temperatures you can reach and had problems that you think would be resolved by using a higher temperature? In my experience even at 250 PETG is a dripping mess.
I'm not sure I understand why you want to upgrade the extruder if your hotend can reach higher temperatures. Try going at 260°C and check the print speed, which you haven't mentioned. Maybe you are printing too fast for that temperature+nozzle (which is also not mentioned). Usually printing at the low-end of the temperature range involves slowing down further (and PETG is not fast to begin with).
@FarO I cannot reach higher temperatures, that is the issue. It doesn’t matter what my max temperature is, if it’s above 245/250 it will never reach it.
Are you sure the firmware limit is at 280 °C? A hotend should get hotter than 250 °C when heated static (no filament to cool it down).
@0scar Positive, I’ve seen it written in the firmware plus on occasion it does fluctuate up to 251/2~. Before the enclosure and the ceramic wrap I couldn’t even maintain 230~. It’s a very old printer, my guess was the power supply or heating cartridge isn’t spec’d to go that high, but I’m unsure.
Well if the hotend should reach higher, but it doesn't, I would surely measure the voltage of the PSU under load (that means, when the hotend and bed are cold and you turn on both to reach 250/80 C).
@FarO That makes sense, I’ll give that a try. I know the max temp as per the print spec is 280 so I think I should be hitting a little higher than I am. I’m not sure the heater cartridges are supposed to go that high, but from looking online it seems most 40/50W cartridges heat to around 300.
Are you sure you have a 24V PSU?
@FarO I am, it’s the stock power supply with the printer. 24V 14.6A
Most PETG reacts vey badly to temperatures above 255. The typical optimal PETG temperature ranges from 225 to 245. Above that it gets sticky...
If PETG is your goal, you might want to find a filament that is more friendly to your printer. They are pretty cheap, and now you have transitioned to an all-metal hot end, you should be good to go!
Its a modified PETG, the brand is Fillamentum and the temp range 255-275 is recommended by the brand. I have a few reels of it so I’m determined to print with it. Getting major inconsistent and under extrusion at 245.
Have you tried wrapping the hot-end in silicone?
Hot-end is already wrapped in ceramic, which I believe has much better thermal insulation properties than silicone.
I’m assuming that you have turned-off any cooling fans?
Correct, the extruded fan is on to stabilise the temperature but I have no control over this. Weirdly it does seem to be on quite aggressively considering it’s not even at the target temperature.
An extra layer of silicone might help buy you a few degrees - the ceramic coatings are often rather thin... I use self sealing tape and my head is also ceramic-coated - just be careful about the max temp it can handle. Are you using an infrared thermometer to measure temperature?
Upgrading the heater will not only require more power, but probably a new mainboard to in order to handle that power without catching fire. Are you experienced in electronics?
Fairly, I’ve wired in the cooling fan (as it doesn’t come as standard) into the motherboard and an auto levelling sensor.
This would be MUCH more dangerous: unless you can find a kit specifically for your machine, you would potentially need to do major surgery to the mainboard to re-route power and potentially replace power transistors and the like... It is not as simple as wiring in a fan! (The hot-end control circuitry and software is the core of any 3D printer.)
Loads can be easily taken from the board with an external MOSFET module, but that is rarely necessary for hotend heater elements. The current is determined by the resistance of the heater element.
Totally agree about the external MOSFET - that is what I meant by re-routing power. My concern here is that many of the cheaper mainboards are not engineered to handle higher current draws and/or higher voltages than their original configuration. The worst offenders have been known to spontaneously combust even when operated within their default spec. Now, obviously if you know how to rate the existing mainboard power drive capabilities you are ok to go for a higher power heater - but otherwise you run the risk of overloading things unless you resort to off-board/uprated components.
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Why would my extruder remove the filament all the way out after prints? [Ender 3 v2]
Background
I bought an Ender 3 v2 printer, everything has been working fine, been experimenting with harder and higher temperature filaments like different variations of PLA and PETG.
Original extruder would bite the filament too hard sometimes and snap it, if it's loose it would grind it, filling its teeth with material that needs to be cleaned out.
I bought a BMG clone (TriangleLab) extruder and set it up according to BondTech instructions but without having to invert the stepper motor rotation and set E-Steps to 419, which seems to be printing fine.
It's still using the stock hotend but with 0.6 mm hardened steel nozzle. I do have BLTouch add-on and I'm using firmware compiled from tip of bugfix-2.0.x branch of Marlin with stock Creality v4.2.2 board. Firmware Configuration modifications were done to accommodate BLTouch alone.
Problem
I have to manually heat the nozzle and manually extrude about 200-250 mm from LCD menu, otherwise once print starts, no material will come out.
I checked the bowden tube with a torchlight since it's translucent using a black filament to print and noticed that after machine is stopped (from menu or after print ends), extruder will pull the filament almost all the way out while pulling up Z axis to clear some height, requiring me to manually extrude before next print so tube won't be empty. Previously with stock extruder I didn't have to do anything, the initial print on left hand side of bed or skirt print would take care of putting it back in location.
I've been googling and looking at Cura and Firmware (configuration.h) for a while now but I couldn't figure out why this is happening.
This is my End code in Cura. I do suspect 3rd line has something to do with it but I don't understand what that means.
G91 ;Relative positioning
G1 E-2 F2700 ;Retract a bit
G1 E-2 Z0.2 F2400 ;Retract and raise Z
G1 X5 Y5 F3000 ;Wipe out
G1 Z10 ;Raise Z more
G90 ;Absolute positioning
G1 X0 Y{machine_depth} ;Present print
M106 S0 ;Turn-off fan
M104 S0 ;Turn-off hotend
M140 S0 ;Turn-off bed
M84 X Y E ;Disable all steppers but Z
M300 S440 P200
M300 S660 P250
M300 S880 P300
Retraction settings are stock settings in Cura, haven't touched them.
The Configuration.h file is found here, the Configuration_adv.h file is found here.
Update: This happened again with Benchy print but about 4 cm unlike previously, half of the skirt print failed but actual print was OK. Below is last part of print Gcode. End code isn't different from Cura settings printer end code.
G1 X105.151 Y113.199 E313.92164
G0 F7200 X105.155 Y112.539
;TIME_ELAPSED:3369.503317
G1 F3000 E307.42164
M140 S0
M107
G91 ;Relative positioning
G1 E-2 F2700 ;Retract a bit
G1 E-2 Z0.2 F2400 ;Retract and raise Z
G1 X5 Y5 F3000 ;Wipe out
G1 Z10 ;Raise Z more
G90 ;Absolute positionning
G1 X0 Y220 ;Present print
M106 S0 ;Turn-off fan
M104 S0 ;Turn-off hotend
M140 S0 ;Turn-off bed
M84 X Y E ;Disable all steppers but Z
M300 S440 P200
M300 S660 P250
M300 S880 P300
M82 ;absolute extrusion mode
M104 S0
;End of Gcode
;SETTING_3 {"extruder_quality": ["[general]\\nversion = 4\\nname = Ideagen Nozzl
;SETTING_3 e-0.6 #3\\ndefinition = creality_ender3pro\\n\\n[metadata]\\ntype = q
;SETTING_3 uality_changes\\nquality_type = standard\\nposition = 0\\nsetting_ver
;SETTING_3 sion = 15\\nintent_category = default\\n\\n[values]\\nfill_outline_ga
;SETTING_3 ps = True\\ninfill_overlap = 10\\ninfill_sparse_density = 40\\ninitia
;SETTING_3 l_layer_line_width_factor = 120\\nironing_only_highest_layer = True\\
;SETTING_3 nmaterial_flow = 92.5\\nmaterial_print_temperature = 210\\nretraction
;SETTING_3 _count_max = 10\\nretraction_retract_speed = 50\\nspeed_print = 60\\n
;SETTING_3 speed_travel = 120.0\\nsupport_infill_rate = 5\\ntop_bottom_thickness
;SETTING_3 = 1.05\\ntop_thickness = 1.05\\nwall_thickness = 1.2\\nzig_zaggify_i
;SETTING_3 nfill = True\\n\\n"], "global_quality": "[general]\\nversion = 4\\nna
;SETTING_3 me = Ideagen Nozzle-0.6 #3\\ndefinition = creality_ender3pro\\n\\n[me
;SETTING_3 tadata]\\ntype = quality_changes\\nquality_type = standard\\nsetting_
;SETTING_3 version = 15\\n\\n[values]\\nlayer_height = 0.35\\nlayer_height_0 = 0
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If you use a hardened steel nozzle, you should increase temperatures of the hotend by approximately 10 °C, else the heat in the nozzle might be too low causing too much friction as a result of a too high viscosity which promotes grinding.
Line 2 and 3 from your end code cause the filament to retract 4 mm with respect to the last known position in the print. That doesn't explain the large retraction. Care to PasteBin a complete G-code file from a print that showed the large retraction, e.g. from a calibration cube?
Is your extruder having to pull against a lot of weight from the filament? Is the filament spool hard to turn?
This could have been mechanical problem after all. I'm using 1KG spools, not that heavy. I noticed extruder stopped working altogether, I opened it and took out the gears, noticed that tiny allen head screws which serves as key in these gears have been loosened, both on e-stepper mount and extruder mount. One of them was turning freely, hence didn't work. Tiny ball bearing holding shaft also seems to have come out of its socket. I tightened them before but I didn't use anything like thread locker.
@0scar I think it answers for the very long retraction, I'm still not sure why my skirt print will start working only halfway through because it wasn't primed enough automatically.
Long story short I think I've done too much of the "modding" as a one week old newbie in 3D printers, my printer became unreliable, I'm rolling back my changes and calibrating and making one change at a time whenever possible.
As mentioned in the comments, extrusion stopped working altogether at some point halfway through a Benchy print. Once I had opened compressing lever of BMG clone extruder, I observed that gears were loose, after disassembling the extruder noticed that both extruder side and stepper motor side gears were also loosened at hex head screw keys which were keeping them in place. I ordered a thread locker to address that at another time, seems like vibrations due to constant retractions loosened them.
After tightening and reassembling, issue is not bad to the point prints would fail to start, however filament is not primed enough, so some of the skirt print will be blank.
I also added this with 608Z bearings for supporting the smooth movement of spool. Turns out 608 bearings are widely available almost everywhere, roller skates and skateboards use them, so there is a good chance your local sports shop will have it, too.
I installed Octoprint on my laptop to work around this issue as below:
G92 E0 ; Set Extruder position to 0
G1 E100 F200 ; Extrude 100 mm slowly. This is to make sure hotend is not empty and material flow is consistent, i.e. adjust temperature if necessary.
Only then I start my prints.
I learnt that using E<integer> to extrude and E-<integer> retract, I can replace filament too, by using big enough numbers like 350 mm, so I don't have to fiddle with compression lever or its adjustments anymore.
Update: I found more mechanical problems. This issue is not software related. Please see useful advice in comments regarding retraction/priming as an improvement if not solution to this problem.
100 mm is a lot to waste extruding to prime. I print a single priming line my my custom start gcode with just 18 mm of filament, and it works fine provided the filament is properly loaded to begin with and not left retracted at the end of the previous print (I unretract to just a net -1 mm in end gcode).
If you look closely at the G-code you see that you don't need 100 mm, the total retraction is 10.5 mm (313.92164 - 307.42164 + 2 + 2), that would be just enough to prevent printing half the skirt. You should address the retraction at the end, or load more in your start. You can also consider priming, e.g. Cura uses a blob & swipe on my Ultimaker 3E.
I found today that PTFE tube wasn't %100 in the hotend, so there was a gap between tube ending and where nozzle should be meeting, it was filled with material, until it was totally blocked. It was flowing previously but restricted unbeknownst to me. I'm thinking retraction to pull back material worked but it couldn't push it back due to blockage, not as much as needed, therefore pulling the filament back more than it pushed forward in total. PTFE tube was previously %100 in but why it was partially out now, I don't know. My problems are probably %100 mechanical.
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Short-circuited heatbed
After some months of good quality prints, since yesterday my heatbed does not heat anymore.
I've a BQ Prusa i3 Hephestos with this heatbed, controlled by this mechanical relay and powered by this power source. I know that a mechanical relay is not the best choice for a 3D printer, but I only had one of those when I've built the bed and setting bang bang control for the plate gave me some satisfactory prints.
Since if I connect directly the heatbed to the power source, the latter stops working (I think because of its shortage protection), I'm almost sure that in some way I've managed to fry my heatbed.
Before buying a new one, though, I'd like to understand how I've broken the current heatbed without doing anything but printing, to avoid similar situations in the future.
I'm afraid I've forgotten some component whose functionality is to protect the heatbed (maybe a diode or something similar, I'm sorry but I have never studied electronics).
I've attached a very simple wiring diagram showing the current configuration.
If you fried the bed, the resistance would be infinite (no continuity), else it would read 1 to 3 Ohms depending on the option (24 V/12 V).
@0scar a short is either NC or 0
@Trish Technically, the resistivity of air is 1.310^16 to 3.3 10^16 Ohm, of circuit board 10^17 Ohm, so that counts for nearly infinite to me. :-) Hence the "no continuity" in brackets.
but there's also the short of no resistance ;)
I see four points of error:
The heatbed could be faulty.
The lines could be faulty.
The trigger signal could be faulty.
The power supply could be faulty.
So, how to check what it might be? We need to measure, but we need to measure in a setup of 12/24 V circuits while they are live. While not necessarily considered "dangerous", take extra precautions! Remove the parts you will need to access from the machine, ground the power supply, and use your utmost care! Make sure the heatbed is not connected to the Power supply, so we can measure it in the safest way.
Ruling out the Heatbed
The first step can be done without power: the resistance of the heatbed should be non-0, non-open line. It's best to measure directly at the input pins to the bed. If it shows close to 0 (some milli-Ohms), open line (OL), or no continuity (NC), it has a short or is burned out and needs to be replaced.
Ruling out the Power Supply
Once we have reached a safe setup, take a voltmeter and measure the voltage (potential difference) on the pins you reserve for the heatbed. If it is 12 V with some tolerance, it's good, otherwise you might need to get a new power supply or have a professional fix yours.
Ruling out the trigger signal
Next, move your measuring to the output of the board. Now order your board to heat up the bed. Make no illusions, we will trigger TRP, as the bed is disconnected. This will need us to reset the board between tests. You should see a 5 V trigger signal. If not, your board or firmware might be faulty and require different investigations.
Ruing out the lines and switch
Next step is to swap to Resistance mode on the multimeter and measure the resistance of the switch, best with the whole power line. Under "heating", the setup should show a close to 0 Ohm resistance, if not it should show an infinite or open line.
What now?!
If it is neither of the 4, reassemble on the test stand, reconnect the bed to the power supply and investigate all connections between the elements we just checked. Now order a heating procedure - as all components should be ok, it has to be one of the interfaces between the parts.
Thanks a lor for the very precise answer. During the week a friend of mine will lend me a better multimeter than I have in order to make all the necessary mesures. Thanks again and I'll let you know what I understand from the measurements.
Thanks a lot! It turned out to be a broken cable. After I saw all the measurements were good, I've noticed with the continuity tool that wether it sounded or not depended on how I kept the cable in my hands. I've changed the cable and now it seems to work. Thanks again
Assuming you are using the correct voltage hot bed, what you have set up should be just fine.
On the other hand, if it’s a 12 volt bed with a 24 volt power supply, you could have easily burned it out.
If the voltages were matched properly, you may have just gotten unlucky.
Tomorrow morning I'll double check, but the power supply has 12V in output (from specs and the sticker attached to it) and I've soldiered together pins 2 and 3 as printed on the heatbed. Moreover if the voltage were wrong, shouldn't it have been fried some months ago? I've used it without any problem for nearly an year. Thanks a lot for the quick reply
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Hotend not heating
I've a problem with my BQ i3 Hephestos.
I've noticed that in the last few prints that I've experienced some temperature drops every now and then. Yesterday, after 3 of a 4 hours long print, the hotend completely cooled down (I have Octoprint and from the temperature graph it was visible the exponential decrease to 25 °C). Apart from realizing that, evidently, I have not any cold extrusion prevention set up on my Marlin firmware (I'll surely fix that asap), yesterday I've shut everything down with the idea to try again today.
This morning, though, I could not start my print because the heater didn't even warm up.
After disassembling the hotend I've tried the following things:
I've tested the thermocouple putting it near the heated bed and it measures the correct value
with a tester I've measured the voltage that goes into the resistance ($\approx 12\ V$)
I've measured the resistance with the tester ($\approx 3\ \Omega$)
I've also noticed that while $12\ V$ is the voltage that the printer sends to the resistance, measured when the resistance is not attached to it, if I repeat the measurement with the resistance attached to the printer I get a few $mV$. I really don't know whether it is the expected behavior or not.
Further inspection...
Trying to inspect the cables better I've noticed a black spot on the connector of my Ramps 1.4 board (as you can see in the attached image).
At this point I think I may have damaged something with too much current/too much heat. Too much current it seems strange to me because I have never changed anything in that sense, It is exactly the same as when I have bought the printer. It may be something related to the heat as the problem firstly occurred only on long prints (some hours).
I don't know if this clarify something to you, but to me it says almost nothing...
UPDATE
I've tried to attach the heater again to its original place and now it seems to work (in the sense that it gets hot). I've initially set the temperature to 60 °C, and it had no problem reaching and keeping it. Then I've tried to raise it to 180 °C but I had to shut down the heater after a few seconds because the cables became very hot and tender and it smelled of burnt
The suddon drop and it continuing to print also says, that you don't have Thermal Runaway Protection on! Please fix that ASAP and don't operate your printer till you did.
Since your heater functions with a load, but the power circuitry to the heater does not, it sounds the the circuitry can't supply the current the heater needs. That is assuming you did not change out the resistive heating element lately.
@Trish Thanks for the advice, I will surely fix that before trying to print again
@PerryWebb I have not changed anything on the hotend since i have the printer (a couple of years). Can you suggested me how to check if the current is enough? With the tester I can measure the current with the resistance not attached, but I don't how much should it be. Thanks a lot
A 40 W heater at 12 V will draw about 2 A of current. Since you see burn marks, it could imply that the wires aren't screwed in properly. You cannot measure the current without a load (heating element is a resistor) present, current is measured in series, voltage in parallel.
Hi @Oscar, thanks for the reply. I've checked the wires and I think they were properly screwed in the connector, but I can't judge. Do you have any suggestion about how to fix the printer?
I've tried to directly attach the heater to the hotbed power supply (12 V as well) and I saw it works, so maybe it is something related to the ramps board :(
Where's a possibility: https://3dprinting.stackexchange.com/questions/10695/proper-hotend-heater-for-reprap-x400-pro-v3
I hope you can measure the resistance of the cables and the heater cartridge, then you can work out the math for calculating the current. But if cables get hot, not warm and begin to smell, then you need to change the lot. RAMPS boards are becoming obsolete, you could opt for a new controller board and rewire the hotend and bed.
Hi @PerryWebb, thanks for the reply. I will definitely give it a read!
@Oscar I've measured the resistance of the system cables + heater cartridge and it's 3.1Ω. Since for the tension I get 12.2V, the power is P = V^2/R = 48W. From the internet, I read that the cartridge I have is a 12V 40W one. Could the 8W more I measure be responsible for the overheating of the cables near the connector? Just to try I've exchanged the heater and the fan on the board and it reached 200°C without smelling
And I = 12 / 3.1 = 3.9 A. So, are the cables you used up to that current?
I really don't know, I've never changed them in over 2 years. I have ever assumed they are since they are the cables shipped with the printer. In each case they are a little thicker than a normal jumper. To be sure, though, this evening I try to ask the vendor
In the end it turned to be that the RAMPS board was ruined.
I bought a new RAMPS board and it worked immediately.
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Ender 3 V2 & BLTouch with Jyers firmware not compensating
I got the Jyers firmware to upgrade my Ender 3 V2 and added a BLTouch. I got it up and running, followed most of the tutorials on the internet and videos, and uncommented all that was needed. The BLTouch is doing its work creating the mesh values, HOWEVER, when the print is started the Z-axis does not move.
We managed to make it move once but no idea why it moved (to compensate for the mesh variations)
Right now we are stuck with the printer not considering the mesh for printing
To summarize, I followed each detail from this tutorial: https://teachingtechyt.github.io/upgrades.html#bltouch
Double-checked, triple-checked
I tried G29 after G28 and G420 S1 after G28 and made no difference. I know there is the need to store the mash in EEPROM in order to be used.
In 2 tests, we say the Z-axis doing its thing, but when we tried to put filament (running with none) prepare for a full test it stopped working.
This is a new printer fully working, it is a problem with the firmware and/or the way we are using it.
All the other functions of the firmware are working perfectly. Actually, we upgraded another printer where the BLTouch did not work either but we manually aligned and it is doing printing for hours.
Jyers v1.3.5.b using the source code and compiled on PlatformIO
If you Home All, do the X and Y axes home but not the Z-axis?
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G29 difference between Q and D
I was wondering what the exact difference between the switches Q and D for the G29 command is? They seem to do the same:
[D<bool>]
Dry-Run mode. Just probe the grid but don’t update the bed leveling data
[Q<bool>]
Query the current leveling state
TL;DR
Yes they are different, but whether Q is active depends on the a configuration setting, else it gets ignored and a regular G29 will be executed.
Option 'D'
With option D the G29 code is being run in dry-run mode:
* D Dry-Run mode. Just evaluate the bed Topology - Don't apply
* or alter the bed level data. Useful to check the topology
* after a first run of G29.
If you look into the source code of G29 for ABL the D option will set the boolean abl.dryrun:
abl.dryrun = parser.boolval('D') || TERN0(PROBE_MANUALLY, no_action);
This boolean will cause many parts of the code to be excluded, e.g.:
// Unapply the offset because it is going to be immediately applied
// and cause compensation movement in Z
...
// Auto Bed Leveling is complete! Enable if possible.
...
probe.preheat_for_probing(LEVELING_NOZZLE_TEMP, LEVELING_BED_TEMP);
...
// vector_3 planeNormal related code
...
extrapolate_unprobed_bed_level();
...
// Create the matrix but don't correct the position yet
...
// Correct the current XYZ position based on the tilted plane.
...
// Unapply the offset because it is going to be immediately applied
// and cause compensation movement in Z
...
// Auto Bed Leveling is complete! Enable if possible.
Option 'Q'
Option Q in command G29 code is available when manually probing is active in the configuration.h file:
/**
* The "Manual Probe" provides a means to do "Auto" Bed Leveling without a probe.
* Use G29 repeatedly, adjusting the Z height at each point with movement commands
* or (with LCD_BED_LEVELING) the LCD controller.
*/
//#define PROBE_MANUALLY
From the sources:
*
* To do manual probing simply repeat G29 until the procedure is complete.
* The first G29 accepts parameters. 'G29 Q' for status, 'G29 A' to abort.
*
* Q Query leveling and G29 state
Using the Q in the command will set the boolean variable seenQ which enables extra output as if in debugging mode.
// G29 Q is also available if debugging
#if ENABLED(DEBUG_LEVELING_FEATURE)
if (seenQ || DEBUGGING(LEVELING)) log_machine_info();
if (DISABLED(PROBE_MANUALLY) && seenQ) G29_RETURN(false);
#endif
When going through the code, you stumble again on:
abl.dryrun = parser.boolval('D') || TERN0(PROBE_MANUALLY, no_action);
In the first option ('D') the first part of the statement already was true, so the latter part was of no interest as this statement is an OR statement. Now (for the 'Q' option) the latter part is of interest, the first part rendered false. The latter part is a Marlin ternary macro:
TERN0(OPTION, T) If OPTION is enabled emit T otherwise emit 0 (false).
So, if PROBE_MANUALLY was enabled/defined in the configuration.h file, the ternary macro returns the no_action (a "one"/true, as this a boolean: no_action = seenA || seenQ), otherwise a "zero"/false. And if so, the abl.dryrun is true and all code as listed in the 'D' option will be omitted as well. But, additional exclusion apply for the no_action; this will cause the function to be exited early (line 478):
if (no_action) G29_RETURN(false);
So far a generic answer, the following is specific for the Ender 5 Plus.
In looking into another question from you it appears that the printer used is the Ender 5 Plus. If you are using stock firmware, you can peek into the sources as they are being shared (through their Google Drive) by Creality for the Ender 5 Plus.
Digging into the sources, the firmware version is from the 1.1.x branch, they reference to 2016/2017 Marlin development. If you look into the sources, the configuration file doesn't define the needed PROBE_MANUALLY for the Q to become active in a G29 Q sent to the printer, in such a case the Q is ignored and a regular G29 will be executed. Do note that the implementation of the G29 code is able to handle the Q option, but because it is not enabled in this configuration it will not work.
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Only Z offset for BLTouch?
I'm having a hard time getting my Ender 5 Plus (I'm using stock firmware 1.70.2 BL) trammed and in the pursue of that I decided to check my probe offset values. As it seems there is only a Z offset configured? Or does M851 only show the Z value?
Send: M851
Recv: echo:Z Offset zprobe_zoffset= -2.08
Recv: ok
For Marlin 1.1.x, the Z-offset is shown with M851.
For Marlin 2.0.x it is also possible to change the X and Y offset values through the M851 G-code using X and Y (outside the default Z) parameter options. Without parameters, M851 returns the following in a terminal:
Send: M851
Recv: M851 X0.00 Y55.00 Z0.00 ; (mm)
Considering this from All3DP:
First up is the official Creality firmware, which is based on older versions of Marlin. Creality doesn’t mention which exact version of Marlin it’s based on, but it’s likely a variation of Marlin 1.9 that’s slightly changed to match Creality’s needs.
What is meant here is that Creality is secret about their use of which version of firmware they use, but it is most likely based on the 1.1.9 code base. If so, this implies that in your case, while running stock firmware, you should only see the Z-offset, not the X and Y offsets.
Digging even further, it appears that Creality has released the Ender 5 Plus firmware through their Google Drive. When you look into the code, the firmware version is indeed from the 1.1.x branch, they reference to 2016/2017 Marlin development. If you look into the sources you will see that M851 indeed only returns the Z-offset.
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GT2 belts lengthened?
Can the GT2 belts lengthen themselves if they are tentioned too much?
I had them tensioned quite a bit until I saw the video from "Lost in Tech". I then decided to reduce the tension, but the dimensional precision was all over the place. So my guess is, that the belts are too long now?
Possibly, but I think overtensioning will damage your motor bearings first. Can you elaborate on how you determined that "dimensional precision was all over the place"? I would expect stretching to yield a uniform % error across different object sizes, possibly with a mess at a point where the part of the belt that rested on the pulley for long periods without use stretched less. If the errors are more random, it seems likely something else is wrong with your printer. You should probably also tell what printer this is on.
First of all there are two methods to achieve the belt be tensioned.
First method is when both ends of the belt hard attached. In this case if there is a fluctuation in the mechanical system then it will be absorbed by the belt itself. And in this case with big tension it will result in stretching over time with tension disappearing.
The second method is to use spring at one end. The spring will absorb all the fluctuations with little or no effect on the belt.
But I had really bad problems with GT2 PU belts (including steel reinforced), under big tension they degrade suddenly with big change in the geometry at some position. When removed they look twisted. Looks like some reinforcing wires slipped inside the PU body of the belt.
Once switched to rubber GT2 belts (fibreglass reinforced) I never had problems connected to the belts. I can tell that rubber GT2 belts have no noticeable change in the geometry over many years of constant use under high tension with the spring.
As I've seen in todays video from Makers Muse, he also says that these belts can lengthen over time:
(Link with time code)
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.098695
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Weird bed movement when doing ABL (G29)
My printer recently started lowering the bed an additional step for every measurement on the G29 procedure. The only change I did, at least purposely is, adjusting the nozzle offset and MIN/MAX positions for X and Y because I installed the "Hero Me" parts.
Here's a video of what happens:
As it turned out, it is actually a bug: https://github.com/MarlinFirmware/Marlin/issues/25565
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.104170
| 2023-05-07T21:16:31 |
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Vase mode extrusion calculation
I am using Grasshopper for clay 3D printing and I have struggled with E calculus in vase mode especially when:
The layer heights are not equal (adaptive mode to ensure each layer touch below one)
Small layer height enough that a few point-to-point Z difference in layers do not surpass the 50-micron limit of the printer, for example, printer each 5 point will increase height once, and this leads to extrusion at that point
Please, how can this be done when I have:
Distance between point to point
Height difference between neighbor points
Nozzle diameter
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Struggling to get BTT Smart Filament Sensor to work
Im about two years into struggling with the BTT Smart Filament Sensor. I asked for help on here and on Reddit about two years ago, got frustrated, and put it in my parts drawer for a while. Now I'm trying again. I actually asked AGAIN on Reddit recently, but I discovered some things while being helped over there and I figured I should start with a fresh post, not confusing and cluttered lost in the discussion thread. Long thread sorry, but I've tried LOTS of stuff:
The problem
Right when I start prints, it'll always trigger and say its out of filament and needs to unload the filament. Or if I push past that and tell it to reload the filament and keep going, it'll happen again maybe a half a layer later.
Relevant Info about my printer:
Originally an Ender 3 Pro
Still original screen (not tft as I've heard that can be an issue)
Swapped the mainboard with a BTT E3 RRF
Using Marlin bugfix-2.1.X
Print through octoprint
Changes I've made to firmware
Followed this guide to the letter. I've checked and double checked this like 5x.
Code in start of prints
I've read in several places that you need certain start codes in the beginning of your gcode for marlin to recognize and use your filament sensor. Stuff like this (in the notes of marlin):
I've tried prints with and without this, still fails either way.
Other things I've looked at:
Some posts have mentioned that even if you set the filament detection length to 7 in your firmware (as is recommended), that it doesn't always carry over into your printer unless you use m500. Well, I've done that, and it seems to have 'stuck'. When i use m412 I get this:
Also some posts have suggested using longer lengths, in the past I've gone as high as 25, it still didn't work and would still trigger, just maybe a few moments later.
When I use m119 to see if the endstops are even being detected, it seems to understand the filament sensor is plugged in. I.e. if there is NO filament in the sensor and I run m119, it says this:
But if there IS filament in the sensor, it says this:
I think that's backwards, correct? (Could someone with a working BTT Smart Filament sensor please confirm that for me? I've asked a few times and haven't got an answer yet)
Lastly, per this thread, I was going to change my runout_state from low to high, because as one of the commentors suggsted, if the sensor is interpreting it backwards (which again, I THINK it is from above) then that could help. They suggested trying a print without filament and seeing if the printer would 'print' or be stopped by the filament sensor.
Well, before I changed the runout state I tried that, (printing with no filament) and it still triggered.
Lastly, per this comment on my reddit thread, it was suggested to check the wires because they had their wires in the wrong place when they bought theirs. I did that and here's what I found. My wires aren't colored so I'm just arbitrarily numbering them 1,2,3:
Here's what I found when moving them around:
So the way they are now seems to be the only way that gives me two different states.
Am I doing something obviously wrong?
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Anycubic Vyper - original LCD fail (not working)
I own an Anycubic Vyper printer.
When uploading the new firmware there was some error and the upload failed. Now the display shows nothing and is black. Is there any possible fix?
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.107971
| 2023-05-18T08:16:32 |
20964
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Problem with PID, temperature won't reach setpoint
Yesterday, I was trying to print with PETG for the first time, I have two printers: an Ender 3 Pro and an Ender 5 Plus.
I started with the Ender 3 where there were no problems with coming up to temperature: nozzle set to 235 °C and the bed at 90 °C. I had to change some settings in the slicer as I forgot support, then I forgot to set a proper Z for the first layer.
So after a couple of times, I run the printer and it's not reaching up to temperature, it stalls around 225 °C; so 10 °C under my setpoint. I try a few times with no success, then I try heating the nozzle by itself with no success, I gave up with the Ender 3.
So I try with the Ender 5 Plus, it happened the same, I try a few times and then it start stalling around 10 °C under the setpoint and then setting off an alarm.
After trying again and again I can see that if I change the setpoint to 245 °C, for example, it will very easily reach 235 °, then I try changing the setpoint a few times and I can see that it stalls around 10 °C under doesn't matter the setpoint.
I tried repowering the machine, I had the cable off the machine all night and this morning it does the same.
My Ender 3 Pro has one only upgrade wich is the touch display.
The Ender 5 Plus doesn't have any upgrades.
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New Neptune 3 Max. Cubic infill problems. Flexible Flashforge PLA
Using settings and filament (Flashforge Flexible PLA) that work well on my Ender S1, I am having trouble with cubic infill on the Neptune 3 max. I was wondering if you could offer some advice. The cubic infill becomes very ragged. (See picture). When I use grid infill it is better but still a little ragged. I am printing pretty slowly at 50. I have calculated E-steps. I was thinking I could raise the z-offset but I calculated this during leveling and the bottom and top layers look great. Any help would be appreciated.
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How I could make that my PC can recognize MKS SGen L V1.0
I have a Custom Printer BLV, but since I bought the board, MKS SGen L V1.0, never had been possible for any PC can recognize the board. Now, I'm having an issue with the temperature calibration, and it's impossible to set a setting for the PID. Is there any way to activate something as my PC can recognize the machine?
When I use pronterface, even the software blocks itself after few minutes, due to never advancing the message connecting.
Marlin 2.0.X
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Vertical repeating pattern
I've got these strange vertical grooves on my print. They are, at some locations well feelable and at some locations they are completely gone. The printer is an Ender 5 Plus or based on it at least. I use a MicroSwiss Dual Gear Bowden extruder instead of the stock one. Are they from the extruder or from the belts? Or something completely different?
If they're positionally aligned across layers like this, the chance of them being extrusion related is essentially zero. Most likely either positioning system related (belt/motor stuff) or actually present in the STL file.
Are the patterns only visible on opposite sides of the print by any chance? If it is, the problem can be isolated to a specific axis (only X or Y axis in this case)
You could start with the basic checks like belt tension or something else that came loose. maybe even worn out belts.
I've had some (for me at least) unexpected patterns on what should be smooth curves that turned out to be a setting in the export as mesh function in Fusion360. The resolution was set too low so the STL triangles became visible.
I doubt this last option is the problem in your case because the pattern should be visible all along the part so as mentioned before I would start with checking your X and Y axis
I also thought of the STL resolution first and increased the resolution, but that didn't help. So I guess it's down the age-old question, what's the correct belt tension.
@MarcoRebsamen: Not just belt tension. Also motor current, intrinsic properties of the motors, whether you have belt teeth running on smooth idlers anywhere (bad bad BAD!!), etc.
@R..GitHubSTOPHELPINGICE I also thought of the idlers. At the front they are actually flat. But I'm having a hard time finding different ones that fit and are not only available on amazon.
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MKS Base V1.4 does not recognize my PCB MK3 heat bed
I am using an MKS base V1.4 board, PCB MK3 dual-power heat bed, and Marlin 2.0.1. My printer does not recognize my heat bed. I cannot control it and I cannot even see the temp. Actually, my printer LCD shows nothing where it has to show the bed temp.
My bed is working fine when it's connected directly to a 12 V power supply.
Pin Definings on firmware are checked and fine. The thermistor is checked and fine. Bed solderings are checked and fine.
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20848
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MMU2S continued print after filament swap faillure
I had an odd failure case today. I've been trying to print a successful model with my newly installed MMU2S on a MK3S+ - specifically this one which seems to be a popular first print.
https://www.printables.com/model/2364-sheep-multi-material
Before printing I've re-calibrated the Z axis, did a first layer + belt tests. The printer (when it gets material to the nozzle at the right rate) is printing as well as it ever did. I re-checked and cleaned all the bondtech gears in the MMU2 with a pin, the idler screws are fairly loose as I had a lot of grinding initially. Both filaments load correctly, at least via the printer menu. I've also checked the filament IR sensor and the FINDA, and they seem fine. I'm using fresh filament as I found old PLA was too brittle and would often snap.
I've had two main issues during the print.
Using the gcode supplied, at the first filament swap the print fails. The nozzle pauses over the purge block, there's a lot of back/forth with the MMU and eventually it just dumps a huge blob of filament in-place. It's not clear what's causing this aside from the obvious - the extruder is activated and the nozzle isn't moving. I've tried this twice with the same failure and I've also seen it happen on print start, before the purge line begins.
Using my own gcode from Prusa Slicer from the 3mf, the print got probably halfway. Plenty of filament swaps, so I thought we were onto a winner. However, at some point either an unload or a load failed and rather than halting the print, it just continued... The error message that the MMU2 filament load failed was actually displayed on the LCD while the printer was going. At least part of the problem was that the nozzle was cold (I don't know why it cooled at all, unless it was an E-stop because the load wasn't fixed in time). Not sure if this was an issue with Octoprint still sending commands or something else, but I would expect the printer to refuse gcode until the error on the MMU is cleared. I'll try again direct from the SD card.
Are there any common problems which would cause either of these? Given the successful reviews, I would expect the GCode to work out of the box (indeed the first bit of the model is fine). I re-checked the IR sensor and it reliably triggers with an the 2.5mm hex key. It's pretty stiff forcing the gears apart, but it's the same in Prusa's debugging video.
Even more odd is that during the second print, I was using an old spool which snapped quite early on. I was able to swap in a fresh spool, and the mid-print reload worked without any real problems. So the system clearly can respond and recover from an error state, but maybe I hit some other bug.
I am using a piece of Capricorn tubing to replace the MMU2 -> Extruder section, but I used the provided one as a reference so I don't think that should be an issue (also if the printer is using the sensors to detect extrusion length then it shouldn't matter anyway). Also when I generated the gcode myself, most of the swaps completed fine. Also given how long the print got, it seems like drag isn't likely to be an issue.
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Help needed with weird corner issue in prusa slicer
I've been dealing with 3D printing for a few weeks now. I'm trying to figure what is wrong with my print sliced in PrusaSlicer. Here's how the filleted bottom of my cube should look like:
Now, this is how it turns out, sliced with PrusaSlicer:
and here's how Cura does it, not a perfection but much closer to the required:
I'm printing on an Ender3 S1 Pro with Klipper, 0.4@nbsp;mm, pressure advance and input shaping calibrated. Both slicers are roughly the same settings: 0.2@nbsp;mm, 130@nbsp;mm/s inner perimeters, 100@nbsp;mm/s outer ones. I want to be using PrusaSlicer for it has some special features compared to Cura.
The same cube without a fillet, turns out absolute perfection.
Does PrusaSlicer have different layer heights set for that corner?
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.120792
| 2023-04-29T22:22:35 |
20885
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How best to distribute a file made with FreeCAD that uses a macro
I made a model in FreeCAD that uses a macro that I wish to distribute (with the original file, not just the STL.
A couple of closely related questions:
If I provide only the .FCStd file, will people without that macro installed still be able to use and modify it?
If not, is there a good way to provide this model to include all its dependencies, or am I limited to advising what macro is required?
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.122008
| 2023-06-10T09:57:32 |
21039
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J19 Pin on Ultimaker 2 Mainboard Marlin Config
I am trying to configure an Ultimaker 2 (go) with Marlin. My current hotend is a 1.75 mm E3D V6 (still bowden), and the extruder fan uses J19 24V, as circled in green in the picture. Whenever I turn on the printer, the extruder fan keeps running no matter what, and regardless of the temperature. This is kind of annoying, as I want to leave the printer on along with setting it up with Octoprint. So, in Marlin, I want to find the pin number so I can configure it as a proper extruder fan, so it isn't running constantly. I tried M43, but it didn't list J19.
(Just plain Marlin with config, not the specific Ultimaker-specific marlin )
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.123028
| 2023-06-13T16:44:44 |
21051
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Ender 3 v2 X limit switch not working sometimes
The limit switch of the x axis on my Ender 3 v2 is not working sometimes. The gantry hits the switch but the motor does not stop. Restarting the printer fixes the issue and prints normally. Next time you restart the printer the problem reappears.
I have changed the switch and the cables with brand new and the problem still remains.
This problem occurs 8/10 times I print and always goes away with restarting.
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.123219
| 2023-06-13T20:26:23 |
21054
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Ender 3 S1 Pro extruding/jamming on random layers
My relatively new Ender 3 S1 Pro with default extruder started to under extrude and jam on some layers. When it happens I can hear extruder skipping/clicking noises. I printed same g-code multiple times and happened on different layers.
I replaced the nozzle (default 0.4) with the new one (same size/type, from Ender's 24Pcs Brass Mk8 pack), but got similar results.
I removed and checked the nozzle and throat, but didn't see anything abnormal, there was no filament between the nozzle and the throat.
I tried using different SD cards, tried different extruder temperatures.
I'm running default latest firmware from Ender. I haven't performed any PID tunes or any other firmware changes, I've just changed the nozzles and adjusted screw/belt/roller tensions.
The models were sliced on Cura v5.3.0 on Mac and Windows versions (default Ender S1 Pro profile).
I don't think it's a filament or slicer issue as my Tronxy CRUX1 printed same model with the same filament just fine.
What could be the main causes for such jams/under extrusion?
Under extrusion example:
Nozzle and throat:
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.123454
| 2023-06-15T22:12:49 |
21058
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Fortus 250mc will randomly freeze up midprint
I have an issue where my Fortus 250mc will freeze mid-print. What I mean by freezing is it will stop printing and the LED display will be stuck, wasting all the material and time up until the point of freezing. To get it working again we have to unplug it, plug it back in, and pray that it will finish the print on our next try.
This seems to happen randomly, my boss had the issue during a 30-minute print job for something small and it also happens for very long print jobs (5-10 hours). We originally noticed this happening on long prints where we leave the printer to run overnight, but with a bunch of new projects requiring 3D printed prototypes, we've noticed it happening during the workday as well.
If anyone has any suggestions for troubleshooting or has come across this before I would appreciate the help.
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.124491
| 2023-06-20T22:57:55 |
21078
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Inverted Y-axis on Modix BIG-120X V2
I'm almost done putting together this big behemoth, and I came to find out that the Y-axis is inverted. It goes away from the end stop. I've tried everything I could find but can't figure out why. It looks like it's just the Y-axis motor port on the board because I've swapped the X-axis and the Y-axis and it has the problem with the X-axis at that point.
Hi and welcome to 3DPrinting.SE! A little more informaion would be more than welcome (by [edit]), is this an existing branded printer or a a DIY, are you compiling the firmware yourself, if so what firmware. Please be a little more specific to better answer your question.
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.125411
| 2023-06-23T11:27:52 |
21093
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G29 Sometimes fails - Defective probe?
I have the issue that G29 does work as expected but then fails a couple of times at different measuring points after taht it succeeds again.
So I decided to enable debugging for leveling by M111 S32:
Recv: <<< do_blocking_move_to X291.1250 Y96.0000 Z1.1500
Recv: current_position= X291.1250 Y96.0000 Z1.1499 : sync_plan_position
Recv: <<< Probe::probe_down_to_z X291.1250 Y96.0000 Z1.1499
Recv: Probe fail! - No trigger.
Recv: <<< Probe::run_z_probe X291.1250 Y96.0000 Z1.1499
Recv: current_position= X291.1250 Y96.0000 Z1.1499 : Probe::set_deployed
Recv: deploy=0 no_return=0
Recv: Raise Z to 5.0000
Recv: do_z_clearance(5.0000 [1.1499 to 7.1500], 0)
Recv: do_blocking_move_to_z(7.1500, 4.1667)
Recv: >>> do_blocking_move_to X291.1250 Y96.0000 Z1.1499
Recv: > X291.1250 Y96.0000 Z7.1500
[...]
Recv: <<< do_blocking_move_to X291.1250 Y96.0000 Z7.1500
Recv: >>> Probe::probe_specific_action X291.1250 Y96.0000 Z7.1500
Recv: BLTouch STOW requested
Recv: BLTouch from 10 to 90
Recv: bltouch.stow_proc() end
Recv: <<< Probe::probe_specific_action X291.1250 Y96.0000 Z7.1500
Recv: >>> do_blocking_move_to X291.1250 Y96.0000 Z7.1500
Recv: > X291.1250 Y96.0000 Z7.1500
Recv: <<< do_blocking_move_to X291.1250 Y96.0000 Z7.1500
Recv: //action:notification Probing Failed
Recv: Error:Probing Failed
WARNING! Received an error from the printer's firmware, ignoring that as configured but you might want to investigate what happened here! Error: Probing Failed
Does Probe fail! - No trigger. mean the probe has a defect so that it sometimes does not trigger?
Is this a genuine BLTouch? Or a Creality kind of clone? I've used various clones, but none match the original product, those never failed me. I've given up the clones, I had exactly similar issues.
I think it is. It came with the printer (ender 5 plus) and until recently it worked fine. I did change the pin though, maybe it's a bad one? I don't know...
I've changed the probe to a CR-10 model. The one with the metal pin. No Issues anymore. I didn't even change the wire. So either the probe or the pin was bad. ♂️
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.127167
| 2023-06-30T13:38:05 |
21112
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Can octoprint stream from an on if camera over https or rts
Can octoprint connect to a camera that uses the onvif streaming connection standard over https or rts, as opposed to a direct mjpeg stream over usb?
I have a bunch of onvif camera lying around that I could potentially repurpose to watch my printer.
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.129784
| 2023-07-07T09:38:14 |
21155
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Anet A6: known hotend problems?
I've got an Anet A6, modified with bed-leveling sensor etc., which has given me good service for several years. I'm not in a position to spend lots of money on anything fancier, since at present at least it's not immediately contributing to my business.
I almost always have problems extracting the filament after use, and I believe this is getting worse. It's inclined to clump at the bottom, and from the feel I'd say that it's binding at the bottom of the PTFE tube.
I'm not looking forward to stripping things down, since I've got the relative height of the sensor and head calibrated "just right".
Does anybody know of any issues relating to these heads as shipped, e.g. batches going out with liners made of something which isn't quite PTFE?
Alternatively, are there any specific points that I should be looking for? One particular thing that occurs to me as I type is a difference between the diameter of the holes in the nozzle and the PTFE liner resulting in a step at the bottom.
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.130438
| 2023-07-08T13:55:44 |
21162
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Ender 3 v2 Print not consistent
I just got my first 3D printer (Ender 3 V2) 3 days ago and at first it was printing fine but yesterday it started painting dotted lines. I heard it could be a clog so I changed the Nozzle after trying to clean it (Didn't fix it). Then I replaced the Bowden tubes and made sure there was no filament jammed in the hot piece. After doing this the printer sometimes prints straight solid lines but most of the time either no filament comes out or it is dotted. What can this be and how can I fix it? I think it got clogged in the first place because the nozzle was too close to the plate so what would be a good Z index while printing? Thanks
Please add a photo and look into the extruder, does it have enough tension on the filament? (look at the spring loaded lever)
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.130811
| 2023-07-09T19:01:13 |
21165
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Anycubic Vyper autoleveling not starting
Strange problem: I start atoleveling process and see this message:
I touch nozzle and red lamp is on
But nothing happens. Since one or two minutes I get message
How to solve this issue? Anycubic support tells that is cable problem, but I need to wait about two months to get new cable. May be anyone can help?
Thank you.
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.132716
| 2023-07-19T12:51:04 |
21192
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Printing stops at the middle of second to last layer
I just had a problem with my Ender 3 V2 Neo. It suddenly stopped printing in the middle of the second to last layer.
The head moved to the side (as if it finished printing) and the confirmation button on the screen appeared, also the progress bar was showing 100% completion but the remaining printing time was 16 minutes (of a 9-hour print). I checked and there were no clogs and no option to resume printing (at first I thought it was a power outage but it wasn't). The bed and nozzle temperature were kept at 60 °C and 200 °C as I was using PLA. I just checked the G-code and, at least to me, there are no evident problems. Also, there's no sign of over or under-extrusion on the print. I have no clue what happened.
It is great that you found a solution. However, please post your comment Just found the problem. It was the slicer software. I was using Creality slicer and for some reason it was missing the last lines of the G-code. I installed Cura and then tried again, everything went back to normal. I have no idea why this happened. But now it's fixed. Got the hint from a reddit user. (that you made under the, to be deleted, AI generated answer) as an actual answer, and not as a comment and then mark it as the accepted answer. Also, please include the link to the Reddit post (if applicable). Thanks.
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.132855
| 2023-07-19T22:11:03 |
21195
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Speed change from a slicing layer
I did a slicing of a small piece that only has 22 layers. How can I configure the PrusaSlicer software to work at a speed of 60 mm/s up to the sixth layer and from the seventh layer onwards to assume a speed of 40 mm/s?
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.133938
| 2023-07-22T14:21:51 |
21209
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Advice with material selection for compression applications
I am creating a punch and a base for an arbor press and because of the specific size need, I want to 3D print them. The most pressure that an area of the base and punch should endure is something between 30 to 60 MPa on a small 83mm2 area. Obviously the material shouldn't compress at this pressure. I know that steel is probably an obvious answer here, but I'm looking for the most cost effective solution and rather not overkill. I was wondering what material would you recommend that can endure that conditions.
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.137676
| 2023-08-02T18:17:14 |
21262
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Weird ripple issue on first layer
Not quite sure whats going on here, seems to happen at most temperatures and changing Z offset height doesn't change anything until it starts to cause stringing.
Hello Ollie7890. Your question is lacking detail and as such is hard to answer without knowing a couple of things about your printer setup. Please [edit] and fill in the [placeholders] in the template I added and then remove the leading <!-- and trailing --> afterwards. This will turn it visible and help us help you find the actual problem.
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.137841
| 2023-08-04T00:05:06 |
21274
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Underextrusion on top of curves
Every time I print a dome-like shape, some of the last layers will be under extruded. Strangely, the very last few layers extrude fine. So, I just end up with ugly unextruded halos on all of my prints with curves. My extrusion otherwise is fair otherwise.
Slicer: Cura
Printer: Ultimaker 2 Go w/ e3D v6 1.75 mm hotend
Filament: Prusament 1.75 mm PLA
Temp: 215 ˚C
Speed: 110 mm/s (trying to get fast - ultimate goal)
Retraction speed: 25 mm/s
Retraction distance: 2.5 mm
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.138417
| 2023-08-08T02:33:05 |
21291
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Bed temp issue on Guider IIs
I have a Flashforge Guider IIs and have been having lots of problems with warping ASA and ABS. The filament's recommended bed temp is 80-100 °C on the ASAk I have wasted kilograms of filament testing every setting in the slice, raft, no raft, brim every layer height imaginable.
I ran the bed at 110 °C and that didn't help. With the fans off, the print would always lift on the front right-hand side so I got my thermal imaging camera and checked the bed. Set at 110 °C the bed had a 3-4 degree variation across its surface and only reached 98 °C. I then preheated it to the maximum setting and the hottest point on the bed was only 108 °C. I resliced the model to 120 °C bed temp and have had no warping since.
My question is: can the bed temp be recalibrated such that the bed gets to the temp indicated on the screen?
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.139108
| 2023-08-09T05:15:47 |
21299
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Printer turns off after heating up the hotend
I have a Creality CR-10 Max. When I start heating up the hotend, it always suddenly turns off.
I did check the resistance of the heater it was about 4 Ω. The heater itself have 40 W and 24 V. So the resistance should be about 14-15 Ω.
Any idea what happened to my printer?
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.140066
| 2023-08-12T19:45:10 |
21313
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Printing hollow shell with concave recess ("fill plug") -- Cura automatically fills in "fill plug"
I am trying to print a hollow shell from a mesh I generated in Blender.
The model itself has zero-thickness and I am using Cura "walls" option to create the print. However. The model is designed to be filled with sand for weight and then have a plastic plug secured in the bottom to retain the sand once filled. I simply use a drill to create the "penetration" into the hollow model once the print is complete since Cura finds printing a shell with non-manifold geometry to be illegal.
The concave recess is on the bottom of the model, to allow for the thickness of the rubber plug and still sit flush on the table. Unfortunately it seems this concave cavity I designed is removed in Cura automatically. I have been unsuccessful in figuring out how to get this recessed area to print.
Shown below are slightly different models. I tried importing the mesh into Fusion to "add wall thickness" to the cylindrical recess but it was still removed automatically by Cura as an un-printable overhang/hole?
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.140168
| 2023-08-13T14:27:53 |
21314
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Extruder motor not running
I have run into an issue in which my extruder motor isn't running on my Voxelab Aquila. This issue just came up yesterday when I started a print and noticed that while the X and Y axes were moving just fine and it was going through the motions, absolutely no filament was coming out. I could manually push filament through to the hot end so I ruled out a clog, and after canceling the print, I pulled the filament back a bit and told it to auto-load, which it failed to do - the filament did not move at all.
Initially, I thought maybe the motor had died on me, but after swapping the X and Extruder plugs, I found the motor itself is running just fine. After that, I figured maybe it was just the cable itself, but I've swapped the extruder cable for the X cable and it's moving the X-axis motor as if nothing is wrong.
I have not been noticing unusual errors in my prints, so I believe this is a sudden problem - in fact, I just completed a successful series of prints last week that took around 20 hours total. The only thing that I think may have been an indicator of trouble is a smell somewhat similar to a hair dryer that got extremely strong yesterday before I decided to test the motor. I know I have read complaints in the past about the mainboard in the Aquila, could this be a problem there?
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.140509
| 2023-08-14T16:52:17 |
21317
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How to fix a Creality Sonic Pad error that appears after the first few lines of printing?
I recently updated my Creality Sonic Pad to v<IP_ADDRESS>.145 (June 28, 2023 release) and since I applied that update, I've been consistently receiving the error when attempting to print any G-code file:
Error Message:
Unable to parse move 'G1 X251.931 Y187.6.324 E35.93675'
(The coordinates in the error message above change based on the model I'm attempting to print, I've just added these for reference.)
The printer just freezes in place after completing line two and does not advance, then briefly throws this error on the screen. (I had to sit and watch it because the error only appears on screen for about 5 seconds.)
It doesn't matter what model or slicer (Cura or Creality Slicer) I use to create the file, I still get the message. I also receive the message on any files that I successfully printed before the update and have tried to re-print as a test.
For reference, I'm running:
Printer: Creality Ender V3 Max Neo
Slicers: Ultimaker Cura 5.4.0 and Creality Slicer 4.8.2
macOS Monterey 12.3
Models transferred via USB drive and Moonraker.
Any ideas on how to get past this error?
I don't have enough rep on this exchange to create a tag yet, but a Sonic Pad tag would be really nice to add, if someone has the rep -- so I've just added the Klipper tag for now.
The changes I made are within the guidelines of the site.
@stevegomez - Post locked - Please note that neither "rollback wars" nor destructive behaviour will be tolerated. Once you post content, it becomes public, due to the terms and conditions that you agreed to - see this answer. WRT to the edits made to your post, please see also Useful things to check for when cleaning up posts. Thanks.
I have had this problem ever since I have had the sonic pad, I found that I just go straight back to print & start print again , it just restarts where it stopped.
Not a fix, but a workaround for anyone else experiencing this issue. I was able to get past it by changing my upload format from "G-code" to "UFP with Thumbnail" in my Cura Moonraker settings. After this change I have been able to print with no problems and I have not gone back and attempted to transfer straight gcode files. (Because I like the thumbnail previews showing on the Sonic Pad. )
You can get to this screen in Cura by clicking the top menu:
Settings > Printer > Manage Printers...
On the "Preferences" dialog click:
Printers > Preset Printers > Your printer's name > Connect Moonraker > Upload
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.141548
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Carima non-toxic resin?
I just discovered a resin from Carima which says it's non-toxic. They have a link to a technical data sheet, but it leads to a page that requires me to request access, so I haven't read that yet. Has anyone tried this resin, or even heard reports on its quality and ease of use as resin? I really like the non-toxic idea, but it has to work well, too.
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.142328
| 2023-09-24T11:08:48 |
21467
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Ender 3v2 with CR touch, X and Y axes off on the build plate
I'm new to the 3D printing world. I made a mistake in thinking that my auto leveling wasn't working because of the firmware and reset it to the Creality standard one. After changing the firmware, my X and Y axes have been out. The point hangs over the front section of the plate. I've tried changing this but have been unsuccessful. I have watched many YouTube videos and just don't have a clue what to do!
Can anyone help me how to retune my build plate so that it's centre and uses the max plate dimensions?
Hi and welcome to 3DPrinting.SE! This is reaaly not much to work with. What is meant by The point hangs, are you implying the nozzle? Most probably your offsets from the endstops are incorrect, this can be easily fixed. Have you seen this answer?
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.143239
| 2023-10-04T10:49:46 |
21486
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Problematic 3D models that will collapse while being 3D printed by SLA technology
I'm working on an algorithm that predicts the probability of collapse for 3D models while being 3D printed by SLA technology.
I'm looking for some 3D model that will collapse while being 3D printed. I wonder if there are any standard ones.
Note
Maybe I can rotate the famous teapot in way that it will collapse...
Interesting. It's maybe better to have an actual question for a title and an example of one a model that is 'collapsed' to better understand what you're searching for. Also in what format? Are you training a prediction model using deep learning or using another statistical or mathematical approach?
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.145102
| 2023-10-13T17:04:18 |
21509
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3D printer X-axis sometimes binds up whilst printing
My MK2s has developed a strange problem where the X-axis will bind up whilst printing. This causes it to layer shift. The strange thing is I can move the X-axis manually. It doesn't bind up and feels smooth. But halfway into a print, I heard the X-axis make a scrapping sound that's distinctive to it struggling to move.
The bearings are still the original bearings but have had very little use. Maybe 30 hours of printing if that.
I have already taken the X-axis apart and cleaned it with some bike cleaner( didn't have enough alcohol to form a bath. Before I cleaned it, it wasn't moving smoothly along the rails. Now it does move smoothly on the rails but did bind up mid-print.
I have checked the X-axis belt, it doesn't seem to be too loose or tight. I tighten the screws that adjust the belt tension by hand so I doubt it's too tight. It makes the distinctive sound of a guitar string when you run your finger across the belt.
I am thoroughly confused. Could it be a bad bearing?
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.150070
| 2023-11-03T22:32:40 |
21577
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Ender 3 extruder skips
I'm printing a 3D flower model using an old Ender 3 printer.
At first the printer was printing so well but suddenly, when printing something, the extruder starts to skip and make noises and stops loading filament to the nozzle and not printing at all.
After disassembling the PTF tube, it turns out that it was clogged so I decided to replace it with a Capricorn Bowden tube and after trying to print with the new upgrade the extruder is still skipping or clicking and making a noise and the nozzle is almost extruding filament.
I have uploaded a video that describes the issue: extruder skipping ender 3
BTW I'm using very cheap PLA filament.
Have you tried changing the nozzle? It could be that it is clogged as well.
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.151586
| 2023-08-19T09:00:54 |
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Motors don't move when printing but do when homing
I have an MKS Robin Pro I was starting a print on and the motors were not moving. The progress bar was running and the extruder temperature was changing (IDEX printer) so I thought it was printing but the motors were not moving, so nothing actually happened. When I home the printer, however, the motors do turn and go to the home position in fact.
Does anyone know how to fix this?
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.151721
| 2023-08-20T18:18:15 |
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Ender 3 motor cable not working
I had my Ender 3 packed away for the past two years while I was traveling. I came back and reassembled it, but there is no movement from certain motors/wires. I swapped some of the cables around and the x and z axis cables work fine on all motors. Meanwhile, the Y axis cable only works in one direction, and the extruder cable doesn’t work at all. Could it be due to a faulty cable, or is it on the firmware side? And what fixes could there be?
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.153532
| 2023-08-25T21:06:55 |
21370
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Rough printing surface
I'm new to 3d printing, printing with Creality Ender-3 S1 Pro. I had printed out some downloaded complicated parts and some simple parts of my own, and I was really impressed with surface finish.
Now I'm trying to print a lampshade from silk PLA.
First tried to print a sample where the profile of each element is half moon. But with 2 x 2 walls and space in between it would not let light through. But the finish was great! Then tried to make a loft where the profile is a 'moon skin', 0.8 mm. The loft turned out to be of variable thickness, but mostly 2 walls. Perfect thickness but the quality is far from perfect. 0.2mm layer height, 0.4mm line width, 200 deg C.
Tried a slice of a lampshade from Thingiverse, and it's opposite from smooth... Any advice very much appreciated. I'm at the bottom of that steep learning curve.
It's 200 °C, Ziro PLA Silk filament.
Also, I chose the same sample to print for the second time by mistake. It was exactly same lines that were under-extruded.
In future, please [edit] and add any additional info to the question itself and not in the the comments. I have done it for you this time. Thanks.
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.154983
| 2023-09-01T07:18:26 |
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Klipper Input frequency Chart not making sense
In all of the guides i've read it says to read this chart and wherever the peak is for your axis you tested that is the number you set for your freq. However, my chart on the X axis the peak is about 17 but the chart says the recommended value is 39. Why?
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.155706
| 2023-09-02T17:13:28 |
21393
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3DF Zephyr -> Fusion 360 set mesh dimensions
I have managed to successfully scan an object with 3DF Zephyr Free, and have exported the mesh to a .obj file (only filetype supported).
Once I have inserted the mesh in Fusion 360, how do I set the dimensions of the mesh?
When I import the mesh into Bambu Studio, it shows me the bounding box dimensions. So I can scale it accordingly. I can't even get a bounding box to display in Fusion 360.
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.155767
| 2023-09-03T19:45:52 |
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Creating a plastic scallion whistle
Recently my uncle-in-law taught me to make a whistle using a scallion stem. You can watch this video to see the process. Of course, the video shows making a whistle with an onion stem. But a scallion is also a plant and produces the same sound.
Since it rots after just hours, I'm wondering to make a plastic whistle with the same thickness and flexibility to produce the same sound (of course, one end is thinner, and the inner layers of scallion should be removed).
Which kind of plastic is better for this to be used in 3D printing? Can I also make holes in it to produce a flute?
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.158708
| 2023-09-13T19:48:25 |
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Communicating with a Marlin board via Javascript and Node SerialPort
I am trying to send G-codes to my Anycubic Kobra 3D printer running on a Marlin board.
I have tried several serial communication software (terminal-based) and managed to send G28, for example, and it works. Using the exact same baud rate and port name, I am using Node SerialPort library and I am successfully connecting to the board. But the problem is that it won't accept my commands, nothing happens.
I have been trying to send G28 in ASCII and hex forms. I have also been trying with G28\n and G28\n\r. I monitored the SerialPort with a tool while sending commands via both Cura and serial terminal. I then sent the exact same string with Node SerialPort, but it didn't work.
What is the correct format, any clues? I want to be able to send commands via Node SerialPort since I am doing my own web interface for the 3D Printer.
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.159280
| 2023-09-16T18:06:38 |
21446
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Is there such a things as an "Optimum height above the bed" for a Resin printer, and if so, how do you calculate it?
Presuming that you are raising your print above the bed using a raft and supports, rather than printing directly on the plate.
Is there such a thing as an optimum distance above the bed to have the first layer of the model being printed, and if so, is this an arbitrary distance determined by the software\support settings that you are using (For example does using Chitubox at its default settings have an optimum height), or by the dimensions of the model, or is this something that you would calculate based on things such as the printer resolution that you are using, and thus would vary between printers even with the same model>
For example - on this random image pulled off of the internet - is there a specific reason why you would want the lowest part of the model to be at that exact height, and would making it slightly higher\lower have any real impact?
My main motivation for asking this question is that people will often angle their prints specifically so that they will require fewer vertical layers to print, and thus print faster, so it would be logical to think that they would also print their models as close to the bed as possible for the same reason, yet this doesn't seem to be the case.
Logically printing too height would increase the failure rate by having long thin supports, and would increase print times, but printing too low?
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.160932
| 2023-11-05T16:54:09 |
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Is there a way to reflect 'filament color change' in Cura-generated thumbnails?
I'm using the OctoPrint plugin Cura Thumbnails along with the Filament Change post-processing plugin in Cura 5.5:
I want to create multi-color thumbnails that keep into account the 'Filament Change' script that was used, for example, when printing something as shown below:
Can the use of the Filament Change script in the Create Thumbnail script be reflected so that the Create Thumbnail script can account for the color change with the desired colors, and the thumbnail will contain multiple colors, as shown in the above image?
For reference: OctoPrint-UltimakerFormatPackage: Feature Request and Ultimaker/Cura: Feature Request.
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2025-03-12T15:57:25.167454
| 2023-11-21T14:37:16 |
21663
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Creality Halot One Z axis inaccuracy
I'm having issues with the accuracy of the Z-axis of my Creality Halot One. X and Y seem pretty close (as you'd expect for resin).
Firstly, it seems to not move and/or overprint the first 0.6 mm or so of the model, which as well as being inaccurate, also creates little flares. This error was tested and confirmed by creating a measuring stick and printing. I could theoretically get around this by raising the part on supports, but as I am doing a flat surface, I can't afford to have the "pimples" generated by the support on this surface (and neither can I rotate for the same reasons - other flat surfaces).
Secondly, it appears that the Z-axis is under-height by about 10 %. What should be circular features appear as ovals, and my best measuring shows the Z-axis comes out about 10 % short of the design.
I have re-levelled, and all that basic stuff.
I have checked that it has the latest firmware.
I have tried different slicers, and they all have the same issue, so I'm pretty sure it's not a slicing issue.
Similarly, I have tried different line heights. (0.05 mm, 0.025 mm, etc.), they still come short, and still lose the first 0.6 mm.
There seems very little of any practical nature that can be done to fix this.
Has anyone experienced similar, on this or other resin printers, and has anyone discovered a fix? Or have any worthwhile suggestions?
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What can cause my Creality K1 Camera not to be shown in Creality Cloud?
I bought a Creality K1 3D printer and used it without any problems, with great results, so I decided to buy a camera, specific to the model, which is capable of showing in real time how the print is going and generating timelapses. When it arrived, I installed it and opened the Creality cloud website, where I can see my printer information online, and the camera was detected but kept loading infinitely.
I tried to contact support but the information they gave me was like: restart the machine, disconnect and connect the camera, reinstall the firmware, change the WiFi. I tried all of this and nothing worked, I decided to download the "standard" slicing app for this printer, the Creality slicer, I configured the printer and was able to connect it via IP and see the information, to my surprise the camera works in the slicer app, but not on the website, so the camera is working correctly, and the problem could be a connection problem between my printer and Creality Cloud, I would like to know if there could be some type of port or IP permission, or firewall that is preventing the printer from sending the camera image to the website.
Do you have administrative access to the router and what router brand and model do you have?
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Under extrusion? Only after a pause at layer height!
The issue appears on my Creality Ender 3 Pro only after the pause, but it seems to correct itself after a while. From what I know, it seems most likely under extrusion. I've tried purges, still same issue. I only need this feature to drop nuts in a print. The part separates at exactly where I paused. It also looks exactly the same each time on the inside, with there being gaps between the layers (looks like under extrusion essentially).
So far I have managed to try:
writing a custom purge line (like the one at the beginning of all prints) - the purge line looks beautiful on the bed but then on the print it still under extrudes.
Pushing 50 mm of filament after a reheat, but before it restarts. - It still under extrudes
Slowing the print to as low as 50 % speed when restarting
Bonus points I tried these things too when I thought it could be bad adhesion on restart:
Turn the part cooling fans off for 1 layer before and 2 layers after
Increase temperature of hotend by up to 15 °C (in increments of 5)
Restarted the print immediately
The part separates here each time.
But the print seems mostly fine before the pause.
Then after its just not looking to great for a while.
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What conditions need to be met precisely to achieve PLA biodegradation?
In addition to the question: Can I really throw failed PLA prints on compost? and anything else I've read about PLA biodegradability, what exact conditions are needed to achieve this?
I mean, oxygen can be bought, and exposure to high temperatures for a specific time or light conditions can be arranged in a DIY matter. So, what conditions need to be met precisely to achieve PLA biodegradation? So far, I've never seen anyone provide a comprehensive list of required conditions or a DIY method.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polylactic_acid#End_of_life cites https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S014139100700300X?via%3Dihub
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Extruder motor moves in the wrong direction
The extruder motors of my Zonestar Z9V5 Pro are rotating in the wrong direction, removing the filaments instead of pushing. Someone can help me solve this. Software is up to date.
Hi Leo, welcome to SE.3DPrinting! Have you seen this question: "Extruder is running backwards?", if this is the same question we can close this for being a duplicate. If not please provide more information on what you did to the printer why it is now spinning the wrong direction!
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What are the potential benefits of using ferrite rings on the stepper motor wires regarding performance or accuracy?
I understand that ferrite rings effectively reduce electromagnetic interference (EMI). However, I'm not sure how much stepper motors are exposed to EMI and, therefore, if adding ferrite rings to the stepper motor wires has any effect. I'm curious how the potential reduction in EMI might impact the accuracy, performance, and stability of stepper motors in a 3D printer.
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Is there a lightweight OctoPi multi-camera implementation?
I've seen and read many videos and articles about a multicamera setup in OctoPi. Most of them including Setting up multiple webcams in OctoPi the right way describe:
However, watch your CPU usage as streaming can be quite resource-intensive.
Other guides note a maximum amount of cameras for the Pi. However, in my case, I want to simply manually switch to some cameras for another view and maybe only have one camera used for time lapses, which is simple snapshotting, not streaming.
I was wondering why there is a camera limit at all because cameras can simply be disabled when not used, so at most there would be one active at the time. Is there currently such implementation available compatible with OctoPrint and for example OctoApp? Because switching cameras off and on only when used could save a lot of resources which is much more resource efficient, especially in a resource-limited environment like a Raspberry Pi (OctiPi).
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Is there a open-source pretrained TensorFlow Lite model for failed print and spaghetti detection?
I'm considering to use the Coral.AI USB accelerator to add an Edge TPU coprocessor to my Raspberry Pi running OctoPi, enabling high-speed machine learning inferencing using a USB port. It's power performance is sufficient enough:
4 trillion operations (tera-operations) per second (TOPS), using 0.5 watts for each TOPS (2 TOPS per watt)
I'm not happy with Obico and its cloud connections, and I just simply want a model to run locally on the Pi instead. For the purpose of detecting failing or failed prints, spaghetti or other defects. As well as checking if the bed is empty before starting prints. Is there a existing pretrained TensorFlow Lite model to achieve 'spaghetti detector'-like computer vision, locally on a TPU?
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Prints are clumpy, uneven and "gloopy"
Pictures tell the story. Either the printing layers are uneven sizes or they clumo at the beginning and end of the print.
Bambu P1P with a generic PLA and all default settings with auto generated tree supports. Top and bottom areas should be sharp points, not this mess
Looks like you are printing slow and with too much temperature, could you share your basic speed and temperature settings? Please by [edit]!
Also post a picture of how the object should look, part screen shot or something from STL or sliced object.
Broken cooling fan, maybe?
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Mysterious line in my Vase-print
Besides the ugly filament hairs (dealing with those separately), I've got this weird horizontal line in my print that's hard to miss. It's perfectly straight, and I can't figure out what's causing it. I'm using the Spiralize Outer Contour setting.
At first, I thought maybe the wall was getting thinner for a couple of layers, but nope. It seems like the nozzle is pulling to the inside direction for a bit for a few layers, because there's also a line on the inside of the vase. On the inside, the line is kind of sticking out. But I have no idea why. I'm not seeing this on my Cura preview, it really happens during the print.
Setup:
Printer: Creality 3D CR-10S Pro V2
Extruder: Bondtech DDX v3 Direct Drive
Hotend: Slice Engineering Mosquito Magnum
Does it happen reproducibly in the same location for multiple attempts? If not, it looks like you just had a momentary problem with extrusion.
I'm trying to understand how you got the filament hairs and blobs on a vase-mode print. Those artifacts make me wonder if something else is going on with the print in general. Is it correctly spiralizing? that is, the nozzle should move in one continuous line around the perimeter without moving away at any point.
Secondarily: on the far side of the vase, is it pushed out, instead of in, or has the print contracted entirely - that whole band is pulled in uniformly around the perimeter of the print for those layers?
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Ender 3v2 mid print extrusion issue
I have been using my 3D printer for 3 years and it has been working very well for the past 6 months. I had never calibrated the bed even once in these 6 months because it was flat and had never been messed up. BLTouch has been working really well.
Two weeks ago, I printed a very long print for the first time, about 48 hours long, and there were more to come. After that print, the bed calibration keeps getting messed up constantly, and even though I get a smooth first layer print, as I go up to the upper layers, it turns out like the picture shown.
I have changed the nozzle many times, replaced the Teflon tube, and pushed it firmly into place. I also updated the bed springs, but it didn't fix the issue at all. I am using eSun PLA+ white. The 3D printer is an Ender 3v2 BLTouch updated. I would appreciate it if you could help me with this issue.
Nozzle temp: 200 °C-210 °C
Bed temp: 60 °C
Please add some image descriptions so that we know what we are looking at.
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2018 Community Moderator Election
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If you have general questions about the election process, or questions for moderator candidates, feel free to ask them here on meta -- just make sure your questions are tagged election.
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Keeping up with our progress on Area 51. Keep the good questions coming!
The Area 51 site has various metrics by which the stack overflow teams assesses the viability and growth of our community (our site profile can be found here).
After the flurry of initial questions asked by several key members of the community, it appears the rate of questions asked has decreased some. So this question is just a guise to prompt the community to ask good questions, which will allow the site to continue to grow.
So get out there and contribute with both answers and good questions!
Most of those initial questions were mine, so it was kind of artificially inflated... we're probably settling down to steady state now.
However, this question is a great time to bring back up the topic of promoting the site. We haven't made an official poster, but please post links to the site anywhere and everywhere!
Good point about promotion. And thank you for all of the work that went into your questions. It very effectively set the tone and helped define the scope of the site.
Agreed. As far as I can tell, the number of questions is borderline worrying, but our traffic is downright bad. Solving the latter issue will certainly lead to increasing the number of (hopefully good) questions.
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Launched? Launched!
I started up this SE just because it crossed my mind that it might be useful and with little hope to see it succeed. Apparently, it's now fully decorated and with a great and established community.
I just want to congratulate all of you for the great building you assembled on top of that pebble I threw.
Thank you for proposing this site!
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Just how high is "higher education"?
By looking at the site today, it seems that "higher education" is an euphemism for "doctorate". The definition stage however doesn't imply that (1 2 3...)
Is Academia only about PhD, postdoc and teaching positions? Are questions about Master's, Bachelor's, High School etc. off-topic?
Most questions, even in the definition stage, seem to be from people who are (or aspire to be) employed in academia (as instructors or researchers), rather than people who are only enrolled in academia (as students). There are some exceptions, though.
I often wish the website was cut into three websites: teaching, research and careers/applications.
i think it makes sense because "academia" is not a term used often by people who aren't pursuing a master's or phd (or equivalent). sure, you could call undergrad academia and be technically correct, but that's just not the way the word is used. "academia", by and large, means postgrad or teaching/researching at a university.
I would not define "higher education" as including high school. The usual definition includes college and above (in other words, after having completed the equivalent of a high school degree). In practice, though, I would expect a SE devoted to academia to have most of its participants at the level of a graduate student (or at least "rising" graduate student).
How about "rising bachelor's" questions, e.g. about the super complicated UK admission system.
@badp: the administrative mechanisms of a specific institution are definitely on-topic imho. Details about courses and professors are not. Curriculum decisions may or may not be on-topic, depending if they are of general interest.
Actually, I'd argue that the administrative mechanisms of a specific institution are too localized for SE. Framed as more general questions about administrative mechanisms, though, would be OK. I suppose questions about admissions to college would technically fall under the group's purview, but I don't think that most HS students would look at "Academia" and think "board to ask about university admissions"; the term implicitly suggests something higher up the educational food chain.
Is Academia only about PhD, postdoc and teaching positions? Are questions about Master's, Bachelor's, High School etc. off-topic?
This SE is about academics and Academia. Questions about Master and Bachelor degree are on-topic, unless they are specific to a given university course. That is, if your question is about required documentation to apply to university X, in my opinion it is on-topic. If it's about a course or a professor at a given university, it is off-topic.
High school is off-topic.
I would tend to disagree. Admissions questions specific to a single school are generally solvable with a single link (to a web page for the university's admissions office), and therefore are really just like questions about professors or courses.
@Jason: Sometimes yes, but in some cases there are "cheat codes" that are not told, remembered, or allowed, and can simplify your life. One for all: the order of operations and offices to visit in order to settle in a new country. First the contract? first the visa? first the bank account ? Believe me, every country and academic institution has different regulations on this regard.
I really like @JeffE's comment:
Most questions, even in the definition stage, seem to be from people who are (or aspire to be) employed in academia (as instructors or researchers), rather than people who are only enrolled in academia (as students).
And I think that is the guideline we should use for higher education means. Basically, education that leads towards academic life.
So a question like
I am a highschool senior aspiring to be a scientist. What should I focus on in undergrad?
Would be more about higher education than
I have a bachelor's degree in accounting. Will a master's program increase my employability in finance?
Even though the second question is about a 'higher level' (Masters usually comes after Bachelors) of education, it is not higher in the sense of not really leading to academic life.
That being said, I think we should be cautious about admission questions and advice for people applying to undergrad.
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What happened to my comment?
I left a highly upvoted comment on Henning's answer to this question agreeing with the second part of the answer and emphasizing that there's essentially no practical downside to using the initial requested by the author. (I don't have the exact comment because authors can't see their own deleted comment). This comment appears to have been deleted with no moderator message and as far as I can tell was not moved to chat. At the same time a similarly highly upvoted comment taking the opposite point of view is left there. What happened here?
This is what happened:
There was a long thread of comments (before yours) that was flagged and subsequently moved to chat by a moderator. An automatically-generated comment was left behind, saying "Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat."
You posted a comment immediately below the one that said "Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat". Others followed, posting another long thread of comments. These were flagged, too. Moderators cannot move comment threads to chat more than once; a different moderator deleted the comment thread (including the comment that was automatically generated by 1, that said "Comments have been moved to chat" with a link to the chat room. My guess is that this comment was deleted in error.)
Other people came along and left more comments. No new flags were raised after the mod cleaned up the thread in 2.
I just went back and un-deleted the comment with the link to the chat room, and deleted the others. Please go ahead and leave your comment in that linked chat room; for convenience, here's the content:
The update gets this right. Using the new name is a really big deal to one person, and in all likelihood will not matter at all to anyone else ever (papers are rarely read, let alone a particular reference followed, and probably the first initial won't cause a problem anyway if the last name and title are right). The worst case of using the new name is maybe one person loses 5 minutes of time.
Thanks for the explanation.
@NoahSnyder I deleted your comment (and many others) for exactly the reasons given above. Dealing with long comment threads is difficult in that we have to delete them all manually and then undelete the one(s) we want to keep. In this case, I forgot to undelete the helpful comment about further discussion should happen in chat.
Moderators cannot move comment threads to chat more than once aaand here is the real problem. Broken functionality from the Stack Exchange side.
@FedericoPoloni There's a feature request here.
@FedericoPoloni it's not broken, what is broken is people cannot read and continue to post comments after moderator messages explicitly saying to take that conversation to chat.
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How should we behave for the "reference" questions?
Suppose user X comes in and ask "How is the group with professor Y at university Z ?". How should we treat this kind of questions ? One thing may be to answer with pure citation metrics, that is: they publish a lot, or they don't seem to. More personal experiences and opinions about Professor Y may trigger complaint from the professor him/herself.
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Is community wiki not available during beta?
I think several questions are doing to be found that are more appropriate to the wiki concept than a definitive question/answer concept. Are the options for marking something as wiki not available during beta?
Community wiki questions are a moderator-only feature. Anyone can make a community wiki answer, however.
Keep in mind that you might not really need community wiki at all. It shines when answers require collaborative editing, but with suggested edits in place even that is possible without CW.
I don't know which questions you had in mind as CW candidates when you asked this, but check out this blog post about community wiki, its uses, and its purpose.
I would say this question is a typical candidate for community wiki: http://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/36/suitable-citation-management-softaware
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Including country/region and discipline in Q&A for which it is relevant
Some issues are likely to be different for different countries and different disciplines, e.g.:
funding,
career path and opportunities,
academic degrees,
compulsory exams.
I think it is worth to encourage people to state is explicitly, both in their questions and their answers.
This general theme has been covered in a bunch of different topics on meta at this point, but I think this one is worth an upvote. Much of the focus has been on avoiding localization in the question, or at least specifying what field/geography you're asking from.
It think there's an equal burden on the answering poster to make where they're coming from explicit. Our answers, even at their most biased, are colored by experience.
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Accepting answers from soft-questions
What all we know, we (i.e. academia.SE) are hacking the system for objective verifiable Q&A for the purpose of advise questions. (And, IMHO, we have hacked it successfully).
However, I have some doubts when it comes to accepting answers. On StackOverflow it's obvious if an answer solves your problem. Then, out of such, you can choose the approach you actually took.
For soft-questions you don't have "I copied and pasted your code, it works, thanks". Usually there are piece of advice and wisdom in many "answers". And none of it "solves" the problem (actually differences in opinions are often fruitful and show academic landscape).
Of course sometimes there is an answer which is worth to be singled out among other. But in other cases, when there are more compelling answers - what to do?
What were you looking for? When you ask a soft question, you're definitely not looking for a unique actionable “that solved it thanks” solution, as you say. You are usually looking for ideas, advice, viewpoints different from your own, etc. So, I would suggest to:
Mark as accepted the answer that provided you with the most useful advice. It may not be easy to decide, but probably one of them has a point of view that you wouldn't have considered by yourself, or an answer backed by quotes or statistics.
If you can't make up your mind, choose a good answer amongst the later ones: late answers tend to receive less exposure, and thus less votes.
Possibly write a comment below it, explaining how you found it useful, and that you really appreciated insight given by the others.
An alternative would be not to accept any answer. I think it's not very satisfactory, because it sends the message that “none of this helped me” (of course, if that's true, then don't accept any answer) and, less importantly, it lets a good +15 rep go to waste.
Additionally to F'x answer, I would like to mention another point of view. The point of view of a person who will look at the Academia site for some answers and will read your question in the future.
If the person is very interested, he or she will read all the posts and think about their value by himself (herself), not just the accepted one. In this case it does not matter which answer you will mark.
Most of the people will probably read just few top rated answers. In this case, you can proceed according to the point 2. of F'x answer. Give the privilege to an answer which is bellow but you find it valuable and help others to learn more in this way.
(if the person will read just the accepted answer or the first one, he or she is probably not that interested in that matter and again it does not matter what you will mark out.)
So, If you have doubts which answer to mark, you can think about which answer will be the most beneficial for other possible readers in the future.
If there is no clear right answer possible, then the question doesn't belong on the site. It should be closed as "not a real question" or "off-topic", and then possibly deleted.
If a clear right answer is possible, but it is split across several existing answers, then the thing to do is to write a synthesis of all the right things into a single answer.
Writing a synthesis has some downsides: in particular, if other answers are added later, the synthesis become outdated. I would argue that the whole page (question + upvoted answers) is accessible anyway for people to read and make their own mind.
@EnergyNumbers With all due respect, if you were right, then academia.SE wouldn't exist. It's good to be aware of the fact that most of questions here would be closed on other scientific Q&A sites as subjective. And even there the questions are less objective than on StackOverflow itself.
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A place for open-ended discussions about academia
(I don't know if it fits better to meta or nor meta.)
As we see very often, many problems in/about academia are not suitable for close-ended questions. Also, some important things involve polling questions, like software, university, scholarship, conference or journal recommendations.
(For example, I'm involved in projects about creating new software for new ways for collaboration and discovery sharing, https://gist.github.com/4540942, and I have a lot of related questions, but all of them are open-ended.)
So:
do we have a good place to redirect people asking such open-ended question?
or: should we start one?
or: maybe we should start a blog on Academia.SE?
I think this question fits better here on meta rather than main: on main, it would (for me) definitely be a candidate for closure & deletion
It's called a "campus" and they're all closed this year.
Have you considered this place called Reddit? (https://www.reddit.com/r/academia/)
Very good question. In fact I feel that this forum can work more or less what you are asking about but sadly the rules are over-enforced. The rules are good in themselves but like any society, when they are over-done they become burdensome and destructive to higher-potential. New contributors also are discouraged once they walk into the wall of rules and the peculiar culture thereby creating a top-heavy organization. Which is why we run into heavy resistance when suggesting this very change--which is a valid suggestion.
Quora accept open-ended questions about academia. You could redirect there.
Whenever I go to Quora, the site seems kind of silly to me.
@user111388 definitely a lot of low-quality content and other issues on Quora. Another option with a fair amount of crap content is Reddit.
While Reddit has a lot of crap, my impression is that there are good and crap forums (unlike in Quora, where the crap is all over the place).
@user111388 Good point, there is some content quality variability between different subreddits. Which sub would you say is a good sub? Just curious as on my side I can't think of any sub that I find decent. But I don't go there often. Perhaps small specialized subs may attract a more useful crowd.
I like the subs on beekeeping, Ultimate and mostly Academia. Also Data Science and Geocaching.
Chat is as close as we've got to a place for open-ended discussion. But it sounds like wht you're after is a forum. We don't do that round here (and I've hugely scaled down my contribution to forums since getting active here: they just seem so archaic and pointless now, and suffer from Eternal September syndrome much more than we do here)
For me chat(s) rarely work - as there is no structure at all; maybe except for trivial questions. When it comes to forums - implicitly, I referred to such; but for some reason there are not as active as they used to be + maybe something in between (blog + discussions in comments) may look more appropriate.
Unfortunately, chat is the appropriate forum for that sort of thing, and our chat—like most beta chats—is too slow to be useful. SE does allow sites to have a blog, but it's a lot of effort, and we have to demonstrate that we are committed to maintaining the blog in the long-term. If you're interested, though, start a post and we can see whether there's interest.
I think chat is the way to go. Not the general chat room, but a "private" room with an appropriate title.
I would recommend thefora.org, which is an offshoot of the forums formerly hosted by the Chronicle of Higher Education.
(But - warning - it is fairly snarky, and it is (just because of the participants and maybe the origin) US and humanities oriented.)
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Are we a "life/arts" community?
The new display at the bottom is not very good, in my opinion: I would expect to see "Academia" under "Professional," but that's not even in one of the categories shown in the display below—you have to click through to get to a site where you then have to hunt around to find it. That's not a very good system in my opinion.
But, at the very least, we should list Academia where it makes more sense. But is that "Professional" rather than "Life/Arts?"
If it's listed in "Life/Arts", I would at least cross-list it in "Science" as well.
I don't think we get to pick multiple options. Otherwise it should already be there! But I guess we can find out. I'll look into this.
With respect to Daniel E Shub's answer, I think of being an academic as my profession. I spend my working hours in academia and I continue to improve myself, professionally, as an academic. Life/arts seems more appropriate to hobbies. I would not put this site under 'science' since academia (and this site) is not limited to science. I hope we will have many more members from many more branches than just the sciences.
Our Academia community is still listed under life/arts... Professional or Science are the most suitable categories. Why no request is posted on the main site's meta to change the website's category?
I have to say that I feel that Professional is a better fit. The reason I say so is that research is our job, and academia is the enveloping name for the network we operate in.
Whether or not being an academic is a lifestyle is an abstract discussion in my opinion. Anyone might feel that their job describes their lifestyle; a banker might feel that banking is not a job but a lifestyle, likewise a construction worker might feel that pouring concrete is way beyond a 9-to-5 job. What is an indisputable fact is that a majority of us are in research as a permanent, or temporary, career path. That alone makes my perspective to Academia.SE a site where professional questions/opinions/experiences are voiced.
That's only my opinion of course.
It looks like the full list of categories are:
Technology
Culture/Recreation
Life/Arts
Science
Business
Professional
I think Technology, Culture, and Business would be really bad categories for us. While Science might be a reasonable category for us now, I would hope in the future academia.se will cover more than just the sciences. This leaves, as aeismail points out life/arts and professional. I think life/arts is much better than professional. I do not think of being an academic as my profession as much as my life style.
I'm surprised you don't think of being an academic as your profession. From the high quality of your answers, I would assume you were a full-time academic.
@earthling I am a full time academic. My point was that I think of being an academic as being an all encompassing lifestyle.
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Is it time to start adding moderators?
Since we're about two weeks into the public beta now, I would think that it would be time to start considering adding more moderators (right now, I believe Anna is the only moderator, and she's with SE, as opposed to being a member-moderator.
Is it time to begin the process of adding pro tempore moderators? I think it would help improve board "flow", and keep things moving in a more productive direction.
I think we could stand to start adding mods, yes
No, graduated sites require elections. However, this post was written, as stated, when the site was still in public beta.
Yes. This community, while still small, has had it's share of low-quality questions and trolls, and internal moderators could handle that sort of stuff much quicker than outside.
Also, people here so far have been very forthcoming with discussions, and if a moderator acted in a way which upset the community, I have faith that the community would discuss it in meta in a healthy way, and if necessary the mod would reverse the action. We've got a good crowd here :)
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Revisiting custom close reasons
It's been a while since these have been looked at, but I think that it's appropriate to revisit the issue.
Right now, we have two custom close reasons that are very similar to one another in scope:
Questions that cannot be generalized to apply to others in similar situations are off-topic. For assistance in writing questions that can apply to multiple people facing similar situations, see: What kinds of questions are too localized?
and
This question appears to be off-topic because it seems to seek specific advice for a very specific situation, and it's likely that only someone with a good understanding of your situation will be able to provide an objectively correct answer.
I can't see any situation in which one of these could apply, but the other couldn't.
[The other close reason is the often overused "Undergraduate" reason.]
Personally, I find myself using a variant on the "shopping question" tag a lot more frequently. I would recommend replacing one of the tags above with something such as:
We cannot offer recommendations or rankings of specific programs, courses, universities, or other similar requests, as these are primarily opinion-based.
Can we, once the dust on this discussion has settled (has it by now?) include a link to this discussion as in "For more information, click here" in the new close reason(s)?
The new "shopping questions" close reason has been live for a little over two weeks, and it seems to be quite well used: of 97 question closed in the last 14 days, 15 have been "shopping questions."
Given how often I was manually typing in variants of the "shopping" excuse, such a result does not surprise me at all.
Now that I've had the status to vote on closing questions for a while, I felt I had to follow this link for the explanation of why shopping questions are disallowed. To be honest, I don't find it satisfactory. I agree that someone saying "please tell me all the departments that do X" would be bad. But someone saying "please recommend a book that will help me with X" seems like a perfectly fine question to raise here, and it's inevitably shut down.
@FredDouglis: If X is something related to academic practice, then it makes to consider it. However, if it’s a request specific to someone’s research, then it’s still off-topic. Resource questions about grant writing should be OK, but resource questions asking for data sets aren’t.
I guess it depends on how broadly you interpret academic practice....
I second that there is no need to distinguish between cannot be generalized and very specific advice and would like to suggest the following new wording for the close reason to compise them both:
The answer to this question strongly depends on individual factors such as a certain person’s preferences, a given institution’s regulations, the exact contents of your work or your personal values. Thus only somebody familiar with these can answer this question and it cannot be generalised to apply to others.
I chose to phrase it like this as many cases it should give the asker a strong hint where they can find an answer to their question, namely:
a certain person’s preferences → ask that person (in most cases: the advisor) or or somebody who knows them.
a given institution’s regulations → ask that university.
the exact contents of your work → ask somebody who is familiar with your work, namely your supervisor, colleagues or yourself.
your personal values → ask yourself, e.g., as to how much risk you are willing to take.
I also second the demand for a shopping question and suggest the following wording:
Shopping questions, i.e., questions that seek individual universities, academic programs, publishers, journals, research topics or similar as an answer or seek an assessment or comparison of such, are off-topic.
I chose this wording to slightly expand the scope (in comparison to the existing suggestions) and explicitly include such cases, where the asker is not explicitly asking for a recommendation but only for the existence of a program (but implicitly wishes recommendation). This should reduce certain complaints made by the asker (“I wasn’t asking for a recomendation, I just wanted to know if …”) I have witnessed quite often.
Also, at the end of the day, many close reasons (such as this) exist due to problem arising from the answers. Defining the problem via the answers directly addresses the problem and makes the close reason specific to what it needs to be specfic about.
I like your phrasing better than mine.
I think your first close reason does a nice job of combining the two close reasons. It just seems to me that the shopping question close reason is covered by your new close reason since shopping depends on personal preference and is therefore an individual factor.
@StrongBad: While this is true in some cases, there are shopping questions that can be generalised and are asking for somewhat objective criteria and are in particular not covered by the first close reason (see also Jakebeal’s answer), for example: “Which has a higher reputation? Castrop-Rauxel University or the Buxtehude Institute of Technology?”; “Is there a university in Liechtenstein which offers a degree in llama wrangling?”; “Which is the most-cited journal that covers llama wrangling?”.
@StrongBad: Moreover, when we close shopping reasons with the first reason, askers will go and somewhat objectify them. Then the first close reason does not apply anymore, but the question is still off-topic. This is bound to lead to some confusion and disappointment.
@Wrzlprmft sounds reasonable.
It’s nice to see my suggestions implemented, but the first reason reads “Thus only someone familiar can answer this question …” thus lacking with these. While this does not make a big difference in most cases, it does in cases regarding a certain institution’s regulations or similar.
I absolutely concur with the assessment that "cannot be generalized" and "very specific advice" are largely redundant.
If we are to do away with one of the two, I would suggest removing "cannot be generalized" because I find myself using the other very often for "Hi, here's my situation, help?" questions.
I also like the idea of a "no shopping questions" close reason, which I would suggest to tweak to:
Suggestions or recommendations or comparison of specific universities, journal, research topics, etc (i.e., "shopping questions") are off-topic.
Mainly, I am suggesting we drop the 'primarily opinion-based' wording from your original suggestion for the "no shopping questions" reason because that is setting us up for argument that some distinctions are not just matters of opinion. Instead, I think it is OK to simply say that we do not do this as a matter of policy, since there are many good reasons to do so (opinion, "taking sides," unprofessionalism, tendency to gossip, overly broad libel laws, etc.)
We can't drop "opinion-based," as that is a systemwide default reason. The only three custom reasons are the ones mentioned above (can't be generalized, specific situation, undergraduates).
@aeismail Sorry if my text was unclear: i didn't mean the close reason, I meant the bit where you said we don't do shopping questions because they are opinion-based.
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How can we be more welcoming to new users?
In light of the recent Stack Overflow post on being more welcoming to newcomers, I believe it is worthwhile for us to explore what we can do to help new visitors ease into the site.
While I do not believe we should relax standards for what is considered an acceptable question, nor should we answer repeat questions "just to be nice."
However, it does seem appropriate that we do a better job explaining why we have issues with questions that are posted in a way that helps users try to improve their question if possible, or be a clear explanation of what's wrong.
Are there any other suggestions for how we can implement this initiative here on Academia.SE?
Something that was pointed out in a recent answer on another question here on meta:
Often a newcomer will ask a question which turns out to be a duplicate. This question will then be marked as such, and often nothing further will happen.
While this is all as it should be, it may leave the newcomer feeling like they did something wrong for not finding the duplicate themselves.
For this reason I propose that when we mark such questions as duplicate, we also make some remark indicating that this is not a fault with the question, and that the existence of this new version will help future visitors to find the answer they need. Hopefully, this will make the newcomer feel more welcome and they will be more inclined to stick around and ask other questions or even answer some.
Are you suggesting an automated note, or something like creating a culture where individual users leave some comment to the newcomer? If automated, I think what would be best is if the user gets notified with a message (rather than this just getting automatically posted in the text of the question), but is this possible on SE?
@Kimball To be honest, my thought on the matter did not really go any further than what I wrote in the answer, so I have no idea what a good implementation would look like.
An automated note would be nice, but that requires a higher level of implementation than we have access to. In the meanwhile, we can certainly leave a note.
Adding to Tobias' plea for better explanation of duplicate flags, I suggest we give an explanation more often (whenever we can?) for any close-votes.
Sure, we already have "canned" explanations that come with a close-vote, but since they are necessarily phrased in general terms, the OP may have difficulties to understand what specifically makes their question (for example) opinion-based.
In fact, we should always be able to explain how the general close-reason relates to the specific question. Such a reason-giving requirement would not only "be nice" to new users, it would also help safeguard borderline off-topic questions and make us less "trigger-happy".
I sometimes find myself wanting to close questions for being "too broad" just because I can't think of an informative answer, or for being "unclear" just because I don't quite understand what the issue is. But that doesn't mean that someone with better expertise cannot give a useful answer to a somewhat broad or (to me) opaque question. If others here have similar impulses, it might be a good idea to ask for specificity or clarification, wait if edits are made or useful answers are given, and only then, after a while, decide whether voting to close is actually helpful.
Another good reason to explain the closevote is that if the question gets closed, only the 'majority reason' gets stated. So, in that case all advice you give for improvement is lost if you've voted for a 'minority reason'.
There does seem to be an exception: if multiple Q’s are selected as duplicates, they all get listed.
Sometimes what I try to do is leave a comment stating that the question is not appropriate but suggesting how to refocus their question so it is more appropriate (and not vote to close or wait to vote). Unfortunately, I think the OP has rarely listened to these suggestions (for reasons I suspect alluded to in the Stack Overflow post linked to in the present question).
Is it possible to change the minimum reputation to unlock the chat privilege? Or changing it from "privilege" to a "basic right".
If new users had the opportunity to be redirected to the chat they would feel more welcome, having the opportunity to discuss opinion-based questions or being helped by others when facing some confusion/misunderstanding.
Recent example: Should I do BSc in mathematical physics or theoretical physics?
Reputation requirements are SE-wide, so that means it would need to be done at a higher level than here.
But pointing the poster to chat may not be such a bad idea for these kinds of questions. I tend to not use chat too much, so I forget to point other users there.
@aeismail Thank you, I didn't know that. However, for users with more reputation it is still a good step forward for integrating them with the community. There are several users daily active in the chat or, at least, visiting it to see if there is any discussion going on (including myself).
Besides this being a SE-wide requirement, I think it would also solve issues SE-wide (I can see the use on the sites I frequent, at least). Perhaps it would be good to raise this on [meta.se], but I have no idea where. I don't really like SE-staff's 'behind doors' survey+ 'hidden chat' approach to solving this problem, why not do everything in the daylight, as we usually solve the problems on SE?
Sadly, I am guessing that moderation problems would go up substantially in chat if no reputation was required to enter, or at least that this fear is behind the minimum reputation. I agree, though, that something in this direction might help new users.
Mods can invite users to chat. Perhaps we need to flag questions where it’s appropriate for mod intervention in this way.
What would help is if room owners could invite users (without the required reputation) to chat (feature request on Meta SE). Then we would just need to make a few interested and reputed users room owners of the Ivory Tower. These users could then also perform any ensuing moderation if required.
As a relatively new person here, I think the response about duplicates up above is a good one. Just to add to that, I feel like there are times where a question has maybe one answer, and it's not at all comprehensive or directly relevant to the new question being asked, but close enough where some would automatically close it.
I know this is basically asking for more lax standards in closing a duplicate, but I really do feel like there are sometimes pretty unsatisfactorily answered questions from a few years ago and it would be nice to seek a fresh and more relevant (and hopefully comprehensive) response.
Last point (and unrelated to the first)... I was directed to SE by a few colleagues, and they warned that it's mostly for STEM/comp people, and if you're humanities, social science, etc. you won't get much out of it. I guess I don't have an explicit suggestion here, but that feeling has certainly rung true for me so far.
Edited to add: I don't intend this at all to be snarky, but one relatively simple fix would be to figure out how to incentivize more people to answer more questions. I was searching through the first few pages of recent questions just a moment ago, and most questions had 0, 1, or 2 answers. If someone asks a question for the first time and gets 1 answer, they may not think it worth it to return and engage further.
Given the nature of SE, it's not a surprise that the majority of users are in STEM fields. That said, we are not exclusively a STEM site, and welcome all disciplines.
Also, the solution in the case of wanting better answers for duplicates is to provide a new answer to the older question.
I think users should have some better way of selecting tags or some tags should automatically be assigned to a question rather than the user having to explicitly search for a tag that may not necessarily exist.
Also, off-topic questions by new users should be automatically migrated to the suitable SE site rather than closing the question or deleting it which may leave a bad impression on the new user.
Downvotes for answers and questions should be attached with a 'reason' for the downvote so that the user knows what went wrong , this might also help avoid random downvoting.
And i personally think , questions from low reputation users who are fairly new should be put on hold for 10 minutes at a checkpoint once the user submits the question so that the moderators and bots have a chance to filter out very far off or inappropriate questions rather than having to clean up later , also to make up for the 10 minutes , new users can be allowed to post every 30 mins and all the questions that the moderators didn't get a chance to check will get posted automatically after the said 10 minutes.
Automatic tagging requires a level of AI that the system probably doesn't have. Perhaps they could offer up a list of the most frequently used tags on a given site as a set of starter choices, but you can't go much further than that. Migration is also a similar problem: how do you decide which site to send it to?
using a large set of distinctive keywords for each site and comparing with those in the question , the system can suggest the user if that qn is better off in this site.
@theenigma017: Given that human beings blatantly fail to apply tags or suggest migration targets, I strongly doubt that an automated system can do it.
i mean if you see "research" and then you see "thesis" and "professor" in the question, it is headed over to academia-related sites and not something like health or chemistry @Wrzlprmft
@theenigma017: Take a look at this.
@Wrzlprmft not just one keyword, match 3-4 distinctive keywords and you will end up with a narrow topic, there might be exceptions, but in the long run , it might work.
there might be exceptions – yes, but then people posting on the wrong site are exceptions right now. You would at least have to be that accurate – actually much more accurate to outweigh the frustration if your algorithm incorrectly suggests the wrong site. Take a look at some some migrated questions and consider whether an algorithm could have done this.
@Wrzlprmft then how about using such an algorithm to suggest a group of possible tags, that would be really useful and have less chances of going wrong when the user can decide rather than searching for a tag...
Leaving a comment explaining downvotes is already one of the good practices recommended by SE. I didn't understand why the "holding time" would help new users to feel welcome. The other suggestions are based on the site framework, while the human interaction plays the key role in this issue in my opinion. The moderators already have been migrating several questions to other sites (I think that I saw three questions migrated in the past week), so I don't think we need an automated system.
Please don't overcomplicate yourself. We just need to answer their questions, and they will feel welcome. What about this? We force our lovely moderators to answer each and every newcomer question, no matter what they ask. The new users will see exactly 5 answers from our moderators, they will feel very happy.
I think it will work as our moderators spend most of their awake time on this site anyway.
Yeah, not going to happen. Even if we had the time, we don't always know the answer.
Haha, I think forcing the mods to do it might be a bit much, but encouraging people to be chattier than usual in comments when screening first posts might help.
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Was this answer edited too heavily?
This question about patent infringement yielded a few moderately contentious answers, as judged by the number of flags on the question. One of them simply stated that China was a dictatorship with little respect for the American patent system. That answer received a lot of comment discussion about whether the answer was sufficient or whether it was baseless accusations. I then edited the answer, adding a number of links to sources on China's IP policy and removing the unsourced comments. A few people commented that my edits went too far.
Were my edits inappropriate?
Note: Please try to disassociate the diamond here from the activity. If you don't wish to, that's your prerogative, but any 20k+ user can see flags on questions. I edited in the mindset of a member of this site, not as a moderator.
I felt the removals were greater than the additions. Also, there's no need to provide references for these statements.
Note: Only moderators can see flags, not 20k users. But anyone can see that the original answer was controversial from the comments
You can't do much in China. China is a dictatorship, and it appears to
have a national policy of hacking businesses to steal their code and
data. No reason to expect them to respect your rights to your PhD
thesis.
I don't see anything salvageable in there. The intention clearly is to write that China is a terrible country and has no IP protection at all. Replacing this with a correct nuanced view is against the spirit of this paragraph.
As you say that your advisor works for a UK university, you might be
able to do something there. I have no idea if that's a good idea or
not. Similarly, if anyone tries to claim rights to your invention
outside of China, it's possible you could do something.
So the author has "no idea" and says that some unspecified action might be possible or desirable or not, as long as it's not in China where it's certainly not possible.
This is augmented with actual facts which weren't even hinted at in the original.
Lastly, while certainly suspicious, I wouldn't take it as proven that
your advisor was responsible, at least not based on what you've
written.
This last paragraph is good and important and the only reason I see to keep the answer around at all.
But it's the last paragraph, and so I assume it was vastly overshadowed by the anti-China views expressed in the first and second paragraph in the decision process of the up and down voters.
I think it's anti-democratic and against the spirit of this network to subvert the votes of so many people towards an entirely different answer.
If undesirable content is upvoted I think in general it makes more sense to:
Add good other answers and trust in the users to upvote them more.
I've also seen special notes added to answers (outside the answer text) which say that it's not up to the standards of a site.
As a last resort deletion is more honest than to change an answer into its opposite, even if it means the answer would be trimmed down to the one useful sentence.
(no hard feelings)
Re: final point... none taken. I assume everyone here is acting in good faith.
To your first point, I guess I just disagree. The OP is trying to say "China is bad", but does so without any real backing. It can be salvaged by adding proper references and removing biased language.
Regarding freedom in China you should definitely check their "social credit score" system (hint: no naughty citizens allowed).
Plus "organ transplant tourism" (by executed prisoners).
@Fermiparadox You don't need to tell me that. I spend more time being a pacifism and human rights activist than discussing stuff on se. Personally, I don't like China. That doesn't change anything I wrote.
Just to post what I was thinking at the time, no, this was not inappropriate. The original question simply stated that "China is a dictatorship" (which is irrelevant here) and that they "have a national policy of hacking and stealing" (which both isn't true and is pretty slanderous). The edits added some background for readers unfamiliar with the actual situation. Granted, much of this is pretty public knowledge—I found all the links on the first page of a pretty straightforward Google search—but that doesn't mean everyone knows it.
I think the edits greatly improved the answer. I was not comfortable with the first paragraph but could not figure out how to easily fix it. I think it required a major overhaul to provide evidence and to make it less provocative. I think you did that without changing the intent of the answer.
"they "have a national policy of hacking and stealing" (which both isn't true and is pretty slanderous)." Nonsense. Every developed country has an intelligence agency which exists to perform hacking and copying information, both industrial and military. "Stealing" is an excessively vague way of saying copying information.
@AnonymousPhysicist - Again, I disagree. Using your definition, I could say "they have a national policy of playing and learning", which both are excessively vague ways of saying that they engage in CTF-style activities and then learn from what they took. Even with the "excessively", this is beyond vague and entering into Rorschach-style "see what you want" in the original text.
Some support in Help center, the last point on when to edit: https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/editing
"One of them simply stated that China was a dictatorship with little respect for the American patent system."
"Simply stated" isn't quite correct, it also answered the question, and the statements about China are supporting information for the answer. The answer given is to do nothing.
I didn't see any reason for the answer to be flagged or edited. It's firmly critical, but reasonable.
I conjecture that flaggers thought the answer stereotyped China as corrupt. But it seems that the reality is not "China is unfairly considered corrupt." Instead, the reality is that corruption outside China does not get as much attention as it should.
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Dealing with the "diversity question" answer
The question How to answer the diversity question during faculty interview has attracted a few answers, but one in particular stands out as being both rather non-politically correct and also quite accurate. I'm curious if/how the community wishes to deal with this particular. It's already had a few flags raised (rude/abusive, not an answer). I'll post my own thoughts in an answer below.
Do we have any analysis of who upvoted the answer?
@DJClayworth - Nope.
"and also quite accurate" - clearly debatable.
"Understand that the above question is to weed-out individuals who do not lean as those in power lean." That's certainly not accurate.
@henning--reinstateMonica: That’s certainly not the intended or stated purpose by most of its proponents, but there’s a reasonable argument that that’s an ulterior social goal/effect. Compare an argument like “the purpose of the American two-party system is to block real change and maintain the dominance of the political elite”. I don’t agree with the answer’s argument, but I think it’s in the realm of “reasonable but debatable claim” rather than “outright falsehood”.
I think it's likely that the voting on this particular Q&A has been tilted by exposure to the Hot Network Questions, and the answer is by someone who hasn't participated on Academia.SE before. I have a bit of doubt that the answer is supported by any particular experience of the answerer, and instead is based on their biased view of what academia is and what academic hires involve.
It really seems like "HNQ bait" to me, rather than an answer meant to be helpful to the OP. I think it distracts from other answers that help OP to understand what is meant by these sorts of questions.
That said, I think it's difficult to moderate this sort of answer. I've downvoted it, and upvoted the other answers I think are actually helpful. I think that's all we can really do.
You're certainly right, but you wouldn't believe how many academics I met in my life who would give answers that look like "answers by someone who hasn't participated on Academia.SE"
@MassimoOrtolano Oh I would believe it, just speaking about this particular answer and the information available around it.
Didn't even realize that this was an HNQ. sigh That feature is one of the least useful and most damaging elements of the whole SE network.
@eykanal Eh, I don't know if I agree with "least useful" - it certainly helps people discover other parts of the network, and there was massive uproar when a certain site was excluded from the HNQ. But "most damaging" - yes, it certainly can be when the wrong questions get there. Might be worth another entry at https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/4454/moderators-can-now-exclude-questions-from-the-hnq-list-when-should-we-use-this
@eykanal If you look at the HNQ chat feed, you can see that this particular question had a single vote when it hit HNQ.
@BryanKrause Wow, really? How does the HNQ algorithm work? Can the mods tinker with it so that we don't have to wade through the same idiotic nonsense every time someone says "diversity"?
@ElizabethHenning We can remove questions from the HNQ list, and that has been removed, and there's also a chat that list the HNQ questions from this site, but we cannot foresee whether a question will become really problematic or not. See also this post and this one.
@ElizabethHenning There are probably some details on MSE somewhere you can dig up. The threshold is based on the level of activity on the site, so smaller sites can more easily hit the HNQ. Questions getting multiple answers shortly after being posted is one cause.
@MassimoOrtolano and Bryan Krause: Thanks for the info. The HNQ chat feed is an excellent idea, this is the first I've heard of it.
While I don't know anything about the poster of the answer, the question described is applicable to workplaces other than academia, so any of knowledge about academia shouldn't be seen as a disqualifying fault.
The OP's post talks about "how" questions posed in the interview. "How" do you support X. That implies that the decision is already been made that X should be supported.
In that sense, the controversial answer and eykanal's suggested version are both not really answers to the "how", or to the "what aspects" questions of the OP.
That doesn't make paulj's answer untrue; it is a political issue. Society put a political question to the university ("what are you going to do about diversity"). Whatever response the university gives is political. To do something about diversity is political; to not do something is also political.
I think that with cag51's edits that removed some incendiary language, the answer as it stands now represents a reasonable perspective. (Even if I don't really agree with the undertone.)
+1 The answer we are discussing doesn't actually provide any suggestions as to what to say in the interview, which was what the question asked.
Yeah I don't think it's a very helpful answer since it doesn't give advice on how to do well in the interview. But it succinctly informs on why you can't just stay quiet when asked those questions, and that questioning the premises of those questions is not going to work well. So it's not entirely without merit.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but to be a decent answer there needs to be some actual suggestions of what to say in answer to the question.
What do you mean by "political," exactly? I don't see anything political about the question "what will faculty do about diversity"; it's not a question about policy or government.
+1... I like the nuance here. That said, I'm not sure everyone reads this question the same way. I definitely read "how" as "what are my options in answers?"
@TannerSwett what universities should or shouldn't do about diversity is "political" because it's a political matter in society right now, and universities have a quite central position in public debate.
The question is not political. But the answer we are discussing is unquestionably political.
At the moment I'm writing this, it is the highest voted answer. To me, that's the community's answer.
Deciding what to do about it in meta, is not what "the community wants" but rather what a the much smaller group who frequents meta wants.
I'm not sure about it - several of the other answers have common ground, so votes may be split among similar answers.
But people can upvote as many answers as they want, so I don't clearly see where the split would happen.
They can, but we can't see if they do. For example if people voted only the first time they saw the issue and didn't come back to read newer answers.
I disagree that it's necessarily the "community's answer" depending on the definition of community - this question has been on the HNQ which tends to bring in voters from around the network that might not have any involvement with academia. That outside community might upvote sentiments that reflect their assumptions about what academia is and enjoy a bit of a controversial answer.
Well, the opposite could be true, right? Maybe all the downvotes come from those outside Academia. And in any case those outsiders still can vote here in meta. My point is that the meta question is choosing a subset of users to decide on the question, and it is not obvious to me why that would be fair.
At least one downvote came from Academia.
@MartinArgerami Users without rep on Academia can only upvote. Downvotes are gated by rep (and the 100 association bonus for rep on another site is not sufficient for downvoting privileges).
Unfortunately quip answers that don't explain much but agree with the voters' biases are quite common, esp. on politics SE. Since they often get posted first they tend to get a lot of votes in HNQ, even if they impart little information but a lot of opinion. It says more about the nature of SX (and HNQ in particular).. https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/9731/fastest-gun-in-the-west-problem
The answer is honestly quite accurate, but uses unnecessarily opinionated language. I would prefer if the answer would be simply factual, possibly as follows:
This question has only one correct answer, unfortunately. Providing anything other than a positive "I support diversity through <methods>" is likely to significantly harm your application.
The above says the same thing as the current answer but without the attitude.
What evidence can you (or, more appropriately, the answerer) point to to confirm it's veracity. If that info were provided in the answer, it would be a valuable answer, and not a "look how PC the process is" rant.
There's enough people in the US running around in red ball caps to convince me that sometimes what people believe to be true is not true.
@ScottSeidman - addressed in my comment on your answer.
Are we so fragile that we cannot tolerate a bit of what you call “attitude” (and I’d call “personality”) in an answer? I’d argue that this so-called attitude is precisely the reason the answer got so many more upvotes than other answers that say similar things but in the kind of bland, boring language you are advocating for. So, respectfully, when you say “the above says the same thing as the current answer but without the attitude”, to me that comes across as saying something flattering about paulj’s answer and unflattering about your suggested language, rather than the other way around.
@DanRomik In the "analog" life, as everyone around me knows well, I'm the opposite of fragile. Whenever I speak in public or with some authority everyone is scared by what I can say (friends say that I suffer from "excess of personality"). But here, as a moderator, I find it difficult to deal with answers like that. Look at the timeline and see how many flags that answer already received; as a moderator, you can: i) continue to decline flags; ii) ignore the flags, but after 6 rude/abusive flags the answer gets deleted automatically; iii) try to edit the answer to make it less controversial.
Not to mention the problem of moderating comments. There are clear limits in the SE platform that make it fragile with respect to certain questions or answers.
@MassimoOrtolano thanks for interesting perspective re: moderation. Well, yeah, sure, if you need to moderate, give it your best shot and I appreciate your efforts and am fine with whatever decision you make. But if you declined the flags initially then it sounds like you agree the answer deserves to stay, so declining more flags seems like a reasonable solution. Anyway, FWIW, count me as one community member who thinks this answer is no worse than many others and should be left up for people to judge on its merits, or lack thereof.
@DanRomik - My take is somewhat different than Massimo's; you can have all the attitude you want, but don't bring it here. This is a forum strangers to talk to each other. No one knows each other. Bringing unnecessary attitude is a great way to tick off someone with little added benefit. On this site, I'm all about the boring.
"only one correct answer" only to extent that if you wholeheartedly disagree with the University's policy you probably won't get hired. What that policy is might actually vary; there were [even] some openly pro-Trump colleges, but those would probably not be asking the "how" question. I mean your answer and paulj's are basically just saying "be a yes-man on this".
The answer is actually not an answer to the question. The question asks about what to say in response to the interview question. It specifically says "Which aspects [do] I need to cover to delivering a winning answer?"
The answer does not address that issue at all. It presumes the questioner is really asking about whether diversity is 'valid", and merely provides political commentary on whether they should go along with it or not.
We respond to this by downvoting. Also by upvoting the much better answers that there are to the question.
Let us also take not of the fact that writing this answer is the user's ONLY activity on Academia. It's a drive-by answer.
And the reason for the downvote?
I didn't downvote, but I disagree with your take. "You should say what the interviewer wants to hear" seems to me an acceptable answer to the question.
Why do we all jump to the conclusion that the question is being asked because the OP has objections to the "diversity" issue? The question gives no indication that they know what a good answer sounds like, and every indication that is what they are asking. The answer to every question about interviews is "You should say what the interviewer wants to hear".
In the abstract, sure. The tough part is that usually you don't know what the interviewer wants to hear. In this case, though, the answer is known, and the penalty for answering wrong is the legal dept calling "risk!" and you not getting a job.
Why do you think the answer is known? I see people on this site jumping to the conclusion that the questioner is complaining about politics rather than actually wanting an answer to the question they asked.
@eykanal I would have no issue with the answer "You should say what the interviewer want's to hear." That's not how the answer is worded.
@eykanal -- have you been involved in such decisions, and can say that you know this happens? Can you point us to Inside Higher Ed articles that say it happens? Can you point us to a candidate that feels this happened to them?
@ScottSeidman - My comment on your answer addresses your points.
My take is that the implied undertone is "This is what you should say to get the job." (so it's an answer) followed by "You should consider whether you want the job when the question is asked".
Please upvote or downvote only on the merits of the answer itself, not on the credentials of its author.
Imagine an answer to an analogous question on Workplace SE saying that if you attack the hiring manager's priorities or you criticize the stated organizational goals, you won't get the job. Well, duh. Why should they hire someone contemptuous of what they're trying to accomplish?
I'm pretty sure such an answer wouldn't do very well on Workplace SE. The difference here is that a lot more people think their uninformed opinions about academia are worth something. Also, the answer score may have been affected by the users that drift in from the HNQ. Just downvote.
This answer has attracted a significant number of rude/abusive flags (ironically, a similar situation to the post this meta question is discussing!). I've taken a stab at editing the answer to remove some of controversial language while trying to keep the spirit of the answer intact.
Why are you so sure it's correct? Does the answerer provide any data suggesting that people who have a poor answer to such questions don't get hired? Have they sat on a search committee that eliminated a candidate based on this factor? This is anecdotal at best, and wrong at worst.
Then again, I suppose "I have no commitment to promoting diversity, and my actions will be counter to such efforts" would be a fine reason to not hire someone onto a campus committed to a diverse student body. I'm curious about whether "I haven't considered diversity issues" would eliminate a candidate, but until the answerer can provide some background establishing credibility, I have no reason to believe that the answerer has any more insight that I might.
Note that in the sense that the answer does not answer the asker's question, it's not a real answer. It's a rant.
In any case, I suggest it doesn't meet the "be nice" standard, as there are much less offensive ways to say the same thing, and the answerer hasn't even tried to phrase this nicely. I don't care if I'm personally offended, but there is a community standard, in writing. I may or may not agree with it, but via my participation, I signed on to it, and if I didn't want to adhere to that standard, I would stop participating.
I'm sure for the same reason I'm willing to post answers to any question on this site... I've seen this same thing so many times that I'm comfortable stating it's a solid pattern by now. I have seen people get rejected for position on this basis, and I've seen people with comfortable jobs get fired for violating the spirit of the question. So yes... personally, I'm pretty confident that this "correct".
So, you've been in the room with a search committee, and you've heard "this is an absolutely outstanding candidate, except for that unfortunate answer to the diversity question, so we can't hire them"? If so, I stand corrected. I'm curious about the terminations you mention, and can sort of see that -- though usually as a result of public statements that counter a universities standards. I'm having a hard time figuring out if I put those in the same basket.
Your claim of credibility by virtue of experience probably belongs in your answer. It makes it seem less anecdotal
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Closing/migration criteria
There has been much discussion recently over when to to migrate questions away from the site. A while back, I found a question on meta.stackexchange which outlined the criteria one should use to make that decision. I can't find the question, but the process is as follows:
Is the question on-topic at your site? If yes, it should stay. (Whether it should be closed for other reasons is not relevant to migration.) If no...
Is the question on-topic at a different site? If yes, then...
Would the question be closed after migration? Some questions are on-topic but too broad, or poorly phrased, too detailed, or problematic for whatever reasons. Mods will generally handle this communication in the mod chat rooms, simply because posting a new question on meta anytime a potential migration comes up would quickly become unmanageable for both sites. This should be handled via flags, a mod will see the flag and we can ask the site whether they want it.
So, I'm proposing that we use this as our template for migration.
I realize that I went against the above guidelines myself recently, which is why I posted this; both as a reminder to myself and as a way of "officializing" these rules.
I hope that these guidelines are applicable across all SE network. It appears that they aren't.
Given this, I would add:
If there is reason* to suspect that the answer to 1. Is the question on-topic at your site? will be controversial, let the question be put on hold (and give a chance for OP to edit, high-rep users to vote to re-open, people to comment, etc.) before considering migration.
* For example, reasons might include: if the question has more than a couple of upvotes, if there is an answer with more than a couple of upvotes, if there is a healthy debate in the comments as to whether it's on topic, etc.
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merge [publications] and [papers] tags
We currently have two separate tags for publications and papers. As far as I can tell, they're identical; both discuss research articles. I propose to merge them, but just in case I'm missing some nuance, I wanted to bring it up here first.
Similarly: I found that the [tag:writing] and [tag:scientific-writing] tags are used interchangeably… I suggest we make them synonyms… if you agree, please go vote on that suggestion.
@F'x - Please post those as a separate post, and if no one objects, we can merge them manually. Mods have tools to set up tag aliases without requiring four votes (although you probably know that already :D )
@eykanal yeah, but I wanted to see if the community could gather enough votes for it… guess I'm not gonna hold my breath, though
@F'x - In a community this small, I doubt it. Even on the main SO site it can take months to get enough votes to set up a tag alias on some of the more obscure tags. It's just not something people look for.
I imagine that publications is broader than paper: a book chapter is a publication, it's not a paper. Probably, so is a popular science contribution (I've never heard those referred as “papers”, more like “pop sci articles”). Now, whether that difference is used in practice, I cannot say.
I can't say I've ever noticed people using the two tags differently.
A book is also a publication, not a paper.
I agree. I recommend that they be merged. They are 99% overlapping, and in practice seem to be used more or less interchangeable.
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Third "excellent" on Area 51 - congratulations to all - nearly ready for graduation
Over on Area 51, this site has just achieved its third "Excellent" category, having just passed 150 users with a score of at least 200.
We just need to get questions per day up above 5 (currently 3.8, fortnightly median value), keep the number of answers up, and keep visits per day on a rising trend, and we should be ready to graduate out of beta.
(will self-delete as too localised, shortly)
No, keep this up... it's nice to point out when things are going well, and it'll look nice in the "community bulletin" box on the side :) Thanks to everyone who contributes to the site!
It's fun. Apparently I kickstarted something useful :)
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Are questions on pedagogy on topic?
There is currently an Educator proposal in Area 51 but it seems that a good portion of the work of many academics is teaching.
Is is appropriate to ask questions about pedagogy and student teaching/learning on this site?
One element of teaching is how to give a proper presentation. Elements of how to do so have previously also been discussed at TeX.SE.
Given the up votes to the question and eykanal's answer, should we edit the on topic page to clarify that pedagogy is on topic. I bring this up given how quickly we migrated away http://cogsci.stackexchange.com/questions/5395/what-impact-does-syntax-highlighting-have-on-students-progress-in-learning-a-ne as "off-topic".
@DanielE.Shub - Great idea, and I just noticed that I have the ability to modify the FAQ myself. I added a line to the FAQ, let me know what you think.
Good question, I would say that pedagogy questions relating to the following would be on-topic:
curriculum development for university courses
curriculum/textbook recommendations for university courses
techniques for presentation of material in university courses
graduate students asking whether a particular course would be helpful for their research
graduate students suggesting which courses to take as electives to help further their research
On a similar vein, the following would be off-topic:
anything related to non-university courses
students asking for help with specific courses
discipline issues
That's all I can think of, I'd love to see what others come up with.
That about sums my thoughts, too.
Why are discipline issues, as they arise in a college setting, off topic? EG: "I am teaching a 30 person calculus course, mostly freshman, which involves a lot of groupwork and discussion. I am glad that my students are eager to engage with each other, but I have trouble getting them to return attention to the board when I need to lecture again. How can I get them to make this transition more efficiently?" Seems on topic to me.
@DavidSpeyer - Without further context, that seems on-topic to me, but this comment thread is not the place for this discussion. Why don't you make a new meta post and include a link to any relevant question?
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Should we create a site to help teachers with classroom technology?
Hello one and all academics. I'm Sam and I work at Stack Exchange Overflow. I come here before you because I'm not sure where else on the network to go! There isn't a Stack Exchange site for K-12 teachers, and I think they could benefit massively from one.
I think this because I live with a teacher and I see day and night how tirelessly she works. I see how little support from colleagues she receives. Unlike a lot of jobs (like mine), when she's in the heat of battle, she can't ask for reinforcements. Her job is so. damn. hard.
To make her job a little easier she's begun to implement Google Classroom at her school. After a couple weeks, it's showing promising returns. She's making fewer trips to the photocopier. Grading is easier. Students are engaging more.
But a lack of teacher-focused documentation almost led her not to adopt it. Outdated how-to's made implementation more difficult than it ever should have been.
This is a problem I think maybe we can solve, and that's why I created a site proposal:
Classroom Tech
I don't know if the site is scoped right. I don't know if it will work. A couple weeks ago I tweeted at a prominent Google Classroom advocate asking for her opinion. She said:
most T's don't use stacks.
I think maybe that's true because we don't have one yet. Curious what you think.
I think this would be better titled "Ed Tech" - that's a much more common term for this kind of thing.
You should also ask on Meta Math Educators.
Honestly, this proposal seems too narrow to me.
@Wrzlprmft good idea. Done.
@ff524 You're probably right, though I wonder if that term carries with it connotations that are intimidating to teachers who aren't tech savvy.
FWIW There exists a whole field called "Instructional Technology" that might be a better name. Teachers would make more mental links to that name than "Educational Technology", IMO.
My qualifications to answer this consist of two kids who just finished their second week of elementary school. So don't take me too seriously.
As StrongBad writes, we have had quite a few K-12 focused site proposals, none of which got off the ground. (If my kids' teachers are representative, I understand that. None of them are tech-affine.) So I'm very skeptical that a site that doesn't even focus on K-12 education as such, but a sub-aspect of K-12 education (namely, technology) would be viable.
I'd rather have a working K-12 education SE site which explicitly includes technology in its on-topic list.
Interesting. I wasn't familiar with the history of k-12 proposals in Area 51. Perhaps you're right about the too narrow scope. I really have no idea.
I think it could work. There is definitely a need for it. There is definitely enough teachers in the world. I think the issue is bringing in teachers t the network. There have been a couple of proposals over the years for both K-12 teaching, undergraduate education, and e-learning sites. They have all failed in the early stages of area 51.
I think a motivated individual who is willing to promote the proposal and knows how the system works, stands a chance of getting one off the ground.
+1 for "promote the proposal". Teachers aren't here, so they can't commit in area51, hence failure. This would require a lot of marketing, but it's a very good market to target; being cash-strapped, as educational institutions always are, they rely on internet a LOT these days. This could really be a big new market. Is there anyone in the SO Community Affairs team that would be willing to take this on?
@eykanal They can commit, just they are unaware of the system, so getting into it is more complicated for them.
@yo' I do not think eykanal mentioned it in a technical way, I think he mentioned exactly what you said. Part of this is the "commitment" phase is the second phase of an area 51 proposal.
Thanks for the input. Agreed 100% that this could use an evangelist. And to @eykanal's point, no, there isn't really anyone on the team whose roll currently fits this description. The lack of teachers on SE is definitely an interesting chicken & egg conundrum.
If we consider Moodle, Google Classrooms, or any other Learning Management System, I find it quite restrictive to target the site only for K-12 teachers, as these tools are also used in higher education by teachers that may not be tech-savvy.
On another aspect, if the objective of the proposal is to only provide help on how to use, implement or adapt said LMS, I feel like the questions better be directly asked to the support teams whose job is to actually answer these kinds of questions.
The problem you have identified is a very classical one in the field of technology-enhanced learning: teachers' acceptance of technologies. Just put this sentence in Google Scholar's search box and you will find plenty of studies. What some of these studies tell is that, basically, teachers will continue to use technologies that they perceive useful and easy to use. Since LMS are designed for educational purposes, I can only hope teachers find them useful. Improving the user experience is another issue though, and I am afraid we cannot do much about it on a website like StackExchange.
I think it would be far easier to have a teacher's mailing list. These probably accomplish 90% of what educators need, with half the technical challenges, and 10% of the work it takes to administer a complex site like SE.
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Why "avoid trivial, one-letter edits unless absolutely necessary"?
Why sholdn't the community welcome editing typos?
When I klick edit, a warning appears, asking me to "avoid trivial, one-letter edits unless absolutely necessary".
Is this to encourag the editor to come up with a non-trivial improvement, as long as they have the edit window open?
What is the preferred approch?
Would it be preferible to leave a comment? To flag the question? Ignore the typo?
Good question. The issue has been raised on the SO meta before, and the answers I can find are as follows:
There's no limit to nitpicking, and if the question is understandable, then tiny fixes don't add much other than to satisfy our grammar Nazi neuroses.
Editing the question bumps it back to the top of the page, which is discouraged.
When the question has been edited by 5+ people, it becomes Community Wiki, which (among other things) means no one earns any rep from the question.
as pointed out on in the comments on the SO meta question, such undesired side-effects of minor edits (bump, change to CW, etc., ), could be eliminated for minor edits (e.g. by having a check-box that says 'minor-edit')
@David - That definitely opens the door for abuse, but still, suggest it as a feature request on the main meta and see what people think.
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Disambiguating reference-request tags
So I've embarked on something of a tag wiki editing project, and as I'm working through my list, I've hit reference-request. This appears to be used in two different cases, rather than just one:
Requests for citations, references or documents to support a question
Questions about asking a recommender for a letter of reference
These are clearly two very different types of questions. Thoughts on the best way to split the tag to make it more clear?
BTW: Good luck with tag wikis! :)
See http://meta.academia.stackexchange.com/questions/645/vote-on-tag-synonyms/678#678
Isn't there a less disruptive way for mods to do these retagging projects, so that old questions don't drive down new ones on the front page?
@ff524 No idea, but its done now.
@ff524 Mods can re-tag all question with a particular tag as something else without flooding the front page, but cannot (or at least I do not know how) mass re-tag a subset of a tag. Most sites try and do selective retagging slowly so as not to flood the front page.
On Stack Exchange sites reference-request has the first meaning. I think that it should have the same meaning on Academia.SE.
See:
https://mathoverflow.net/questions/tagged/reference-request
https://cs.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/reference-request
So for reference letters, why not reference-letters?
Seems reasonable to me. Once I'm back in a place with decent internet, I'll retag and label.
Or alternatively: [tag:recommendation-letters]?
As I have said before I agree that reference-request and references have split personalities and needs to be cleaned up. When I looked in the past the questions pretty cleanly fell into recommendation-letter and citations.
Despite the meaning of reference-request on other SE sites, I think we should either blacklist reference-request and references (which is pretty extreme or make them synonyms of either recommendation-letter and citations since it is ambiguous here. Being a synonym of citations would be more consistent with other SE sites, but I am not sure that is how we use it now. Maybe doing a count of the question before re tagging them would be useful to get a feel for how the tag is being used.
I think I'd be up for blacklisting - having retagged everything to date, it's a pretty heavy split, with most of the posts being more suitable for recommendation-letter. I added a definition as well, but as far as anyone reads it...
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Time to Expressly Ban "I want to do X, Here's My Life Story..." questions?
Inspired by talking to a fellow Academia user at SciPy:
Every SE site seems to have a particular genre of questions that are essentially unanswerable. I've come to believe that the questions we get wherein someone asks, with an accompany tale of their career, coursework to date, interests, etc. "How do get into a top program in X" or "Should I apply to the University of Y".
There questions have, in my mind, three problems:
Many are too specific - they only generalize to someone specific.
They're also too broad, because they're not actually asking an actionable question.
They're inherently unanswerable. The people who know (the admission committee of University of X's Department of Y) won't answer, and no one else knows.
While these get closed fairly frequently, should we consider adding language discouraging these types of questions in the FAQ?
Unfortunately, no one reads the FAQ.
Care to suggest some language? We already discourage too specific, too broad, and unanswerable.
Related, and possibly a duplicate: http://meta.academia.stackexchange.com/questions/99/personal-advices-instead-of-general-questions-means-low-reusability
@StrongBad I'd edit the FAQ: "As a general rule, if you're asking about a particular institution, course, journal, or your chances of admission it's likely your question is too limited in scope." and cite that as the reason for closure.
I once contemplated whether our FAQ should have a statement that says that whenever you are tempted to include your life story in a question, it's probably going to be too localised.
It might be worth listing, say, 5 examples of questions that would fall under this ban, and make sure we all agree.
@eykanal I read the FAQ! In addition I'd like to state that this is a problem on many SE sites (especially Programmers.SE) as you stated; that said, this might be better off as a Meta.SE question perhaps? While it doesn't apply to all SE sites at the moment, there will likely be more questions like these in the future on different SE sites.
The fewer unique criteria and guidelines we have, the better, in my opinion, If questions can already be handled under existing rules, then I'd rather proceed that way, rather than introducing special categories. "Don't ask this, don't do that," is not a god way to run a site like this.
Besides, such an approach will lead to some potentially useful questions being placed on hold just because of the way the question writer approached it, rather than being a bad question.
some potentially useful questions being placed on hold just because of the way the question writer approached it - not necessarily a bad thing, if someone then goes and makes the question more generally useful.
There's no problem with badly-written good questions being put on hold. Indeed, that's the whole point of putting them on hold rather than deleting them!
I guess my beef comes from the "undergraduate" tag, which has seen some Pavlovian reactions. (As soon as undergraduate appears, some folks reflexively vote to close, even when the question isn't undergrad-specific.)
As a counterpoint to aeismail's statement "The fewer unique criteria and guidelines we have, the better", I would say that there are very good reasons for having somewhat redundant specific bans for common questions. The point of having rules in the first place is so that users, specifically new users, know what questions are in scope and which are not. The fact that we get so many of these questions clearly shows that new users are not able to tell that these questions are not in scope from the current rules.
I am very much in favor of adding a specific ban for this kind of question.
It may also be probable that rather than new users are not able to tell that these questions are not in scope from the current rules but that they don't read the rules in the first place.
@gman Sure, but isn't that sort of fatalistic? If we assume that people are not reading the rules anyway, then why discuss what they are?
Yes, we should discuss what rules are in place but if users don't read them then it's up to the community either to make a comment to the OP to read the rules or flag the question off topic. I actually agree there are too many of these questions as well. I also think the flagging tools already exist to deal with them. Of course if another flagging option was included for these type of questions it probably would be of benefit.
The problem with defining very specific bans is that it's very difficult to nail something down so well that it's easy to understand and apply it. There will always be a way to approach the ban so closely that it's hard to outright reject it, but it's still essentially the same type of question we are trying to avoid.
In general, where possible, it's better to define the community guidelines as principles that would also catch these problematic questions, rather than go down the path of writing a specific exclusion for each and every type of question we don't like.
Then, once the principles are defined, lead by example. Close these questions appropriately, add comments to teach others the principles that guide closing and encourage them to close such questions as well.
Over time the community will become aware of and accept that the principles cover certain types (or "smells" if you will) of questions and rather than having a hard line that you're constantly arguing with others about, you'll have a nice wide gray area that the community will define for you, and you shouldn't have to worry about it.
Great questions posed in this manner might succeed. Bad questions posed in this manner will generally be closed.
Everyone will be happy, and you won't be extending the battle over words for months and years, adding more and more language to the definition as you go along.
Teach them correct principles, and let them govern themselves.
When a user wants to do X and asks for help without giving life story, users automatically ask for details regarding the professional life as comments and the author edits the question and adds asked details. So it is essential for us users to read a life story or detailled paragraph to consider different aspects and give a good answer.
The part you refer to as life story of course can include unrelated information, however most of the time it also requires what potential answerers require to post useful advice. While the life story makes the question very specific, the key information in it (such as I am doing post doc, I am x years old, I have been an advisor for y years at z university z area) also makes the question also very general.
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Is a 'Kremlinology' tag too snarky?
First, a definition, from Wikipedia:
During the Cold War, lack of reliable information about the country
forced Western analysts to "read between the lines" and to use the
tiniest tidbits, such as the removal of portraits, the rearranging of
chairs, positions at the reviewing stand for parades in Red Square,
the choice of capital or small initial letters in phrases such as
"First Secretary", the arrangement of articles on the pages of the
party newspaper Pravda and other indirect signs to try to understand
what was happening in internal Soviet politics.
We get a lot of questions like this - trying to suss out what a professor is thinking based on a one-line email, or what being "With Editor" at a journal means after 7 days.
I've often thought it would be useful to be able to categorize these to help find duplicates, or mark them in the way many sites mark "Homework" questions, but it also feels a little snarky.
So I thought I'd pose the concept as a discussion.
Are there even any good questions that could be tagged with this?
We do get a lot of questions like this, but I would not be in favor of this as a tag concept.
This sounds like a meta tag - it's about the category of question, more than it is about the key topics in the question. Meta tags are discouraged on SE sites, and I think for good reason.
Also: Tags are most useful when it's easy to find them by name and figure out what they're for. We want to make it easy for new users to find the right tags to use on their posts, and for slightly more experienced users to know how to re-tag posts. But nobody comes here thinking, "I'm going to ask a question about reading between the lines"; they think, "I'm going to ask a question about the status message in a journal submission system". This tag seems a little too subtle to be really usable (except for the minority of very experienced users).
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