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pnkmuy
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How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcsoe1j
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hcsniz0
| 1,631,606,527 | 1,631,605,731 | 17 | 3 |
Accept the suck. Live it. Breathe it. Be one with the suck. That said, taking a break and coming back tomorrow is also good.
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There’s different levels of struggle at every experience level because there’s always something to learn or relearn or to express. Try and understand that the struggle is part of the process and just keep going
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pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcrnmy0
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hcrcg1u
| 1,631,584,097 | 1,631,578,996 | 15 | 11 |
Remember that as a complete beginner, it isn’t going to come out perfect the first time. Or the tenth, or even the hundredth. They will get better over time, if you do it daily and don’t agonize! Lesson one is essentially warm ups for when you get to drawing what you want to later. The biggest thing is to think about the lines you make. As for drawing from your shoulder, that too can be hard to get used to. It’s an odd way to use your arm if you don’t usually draw. Again, as long as you are aware of it and check yourself every five-ten minutes, you will adjust and it will become more natural. The biggest thing is don’t beat yourself up over something not coming out just right. Instead, keep everything, keep with the lessons and look back on what you did today in ten days, then in twenty. There will be small changes and improvements, and you’ll notice you don’t have to check your arm as often. Drawing is an over-time skill! Not something you can properly develop in a short amount of cramming!
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I relate a lot to what you've typed, and because of that I wanted to share a video that's helped me understand that side of me better. I hope it helps!
| 1 | 5,101 | 1.363636 | ||
pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcrnmy0
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hcqwlgv
| 1,631,584,097 | 1,631,571,570 | 15 | 10 |
Remember that as a complete beginner, it isn’t going to come out perfect the first time. Or the tenth, or even the hundredth. They will get better over time, if you do it daily and don’t agonize! Lesson one is essentially warm ups for when you get to drawing what you want to later. The biggest thing is to think about the lines you make. As for drawing from your shoulder, that too can be hard to get used to. It’s an odd way to use your arm if you don’t usually draw. Again, as long as you are aware of it and check yourself every five-ten minutes, you will adjust and it will become more natural. The biggest thing is don’t beat yourself up over something not coming out just right. Instead, keep everything, keep with the lessons and look back on what you did today in ten days, then in twenty. There will be small changes and improvements, and you’ll notice you don’t have to check your arm as often. Drawing is an over-time skill! Not something you can properly develop in a short amount of cramming!
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It's easy to see super talented people all around us and get incredibly inspired but also incredibly envious and discouraged, since they all seem so talented and perfect and we hate the fact that they're so good and we are not. I feel like we kind of forgot that EVERYTHING you want to LEARN takes time to actually learn. Absolutely nothing falls from the sky and is given to you. I know you probably heard this a million times before, but that's because it's true, you will suck at the beginning, you will be frustrated that you suck and the fact that you find enjoyment in something new will definitely pass and you will feel like you want to give up. You have to embrace these feelings and be ready to accept them, because if you don't, they will definitely overtake you and make you lose track of what's actually important, and that's getting better. Hang in there, it will be hard, you will be bad at drawing, since it really is NOT some sort a born talent. It is a skill just like any other and you have to practice for many thousands of hours to get decent at it. Best of luck!
| 1 | 12,527 | 1.5 | ||
pnkmuy
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcr824g
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hcrnmy0
| 1,631,576,946 | 1,631,584,097 | 7 | 15 |
I had a mini breakdown last night because my ellipses weren't great... I went to bed and drew them much better than before lmao. I think in all honesty we're our own worst critics. We'll see amazing art pieces and forget that it's taken the artist many tears and many years to get to that place. Right now it's easier to see all the beautiful works, but the best we can do is keep on practicing, learn from our mistakes and try and talk with each other so we don't feel alone! I'm still learning, and I'm doubling up on learning to do figure drawing, but I hope one day I can make something I'm proud to show to my friends and family. I know you'll get there too!
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Remember that as a complete beginner, it isn’t going to come out perfect the first time. Or the tenth, or even the hundredth. They will get better over time, if you do it daily and don’t agonize! Lesson one is essentially warm ups for when you get to drawing what you want to later. The biggest thing is to think about the lines you make. As for drawing from your shoulder, that too can be hard to get used to. It’s an odd way to use your arm if you don’t usually draw. Again, as long as you are aware of it and check yourself every five-ten minutes, you will adjust and it will become more natural. The biggest thing is don’t beat yourself up over something not coming out just right. Instead, keep everything, keep with the lessons and look back on what you did today in ten days, then in twenty. There will be small changes and improvements, and you’ll notice you don’t have to check your arm as often. Drawing is an over-time skill! Not something you can properly develop in a short amount of cramming!
| 0 | 7,151 | 2.142857 | ||
pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcrnmy0
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hcqygl9
| 1,631,584,097 | 1,631,572,428 | 15 | 6 |
Remember that as a complete beginner, it isn’t going to come out perfect the first time. Or the tenth, or even the hundredth. They will get better over time, if you do it daily and don’t agonize! Lesson one is essentially warm ups for when you get to drawing what you want to later. The biggest thing is to think about the lines you make. As for drawing from your shoulder, that too can be hard to get used to. It’s an odd way to use your arm if you don’t usually draw. Again, as long as you are aware of it and check yourself every five-ten minutes, you will adjust and it will become more natural. The biggest thing is don’t beat yourself up over something not coming out just right. Instead, keep everything, keep with the lessons and look back on what you did today in ten days, then in twenty. There will be small changes and improvements, and you’ll notice you don’t have to check your arm as often. Drawing is an over-time skill! Not something you can properly develop in a short amount of cramming!
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had the same problem the first time around. This is my third attempt at starting, finally got done with the Lines exercise -completely- for the first time without losing complete confidence or patience. Honestly, just keep trying. That first hump you go over will feel that much more gratifying. Like he said in the videos: be patient, be kind to yourself.
| 1 | 11,669 | 2.5 | ||
pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcrcg1u
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hcqwlgv
| 1,631,578,996 | 1,631,571,570 | 11 | 10 |
I relate a lot to what you've typed, and because of that I wanted to share a video that's helped me understand that side of me better. I hope it helps!
|
It's easy to see super talented people all around us and get incredibly inspired but also incredibly envious and discouraged, since they all seem so talented and perfect and we hate the fact that they're so good and we are not. I feel like we kind of forgot that EVERYTHING you want to LEARN takes time to actually learn. Absolutely nothing falls from the sky and is given to you. I know you probably heard this a million times before, but that's because it's true, you will suck at the beginning, you will be frustrated that you suck and the fact that you find enjoyment in something new will definitely pass and you will feel like you want to give up. You have to embrace these feelings and be ready to accept them, because if you don't, they will definitely overtake you and make you lose track of what's actually important, and that's getting better. Hang in there, it will be hard, you will be bad at drawing, since it really is NOT some sort a born talent. It is a skill just like any other and you have to practice for many thousands of hours to get decent at it. Best of luck!
| 1 | 7,426 | 1.1 | ||
pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcr824g
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hcrcg1u
| 1,631,576,946 | 1,631,578,996 | 7 | 11 |
I had a mini breakdown last night because my ellipses weren't great... I went to bed and drew them much better than before lmao. I think in all honesty we're our own worst critics. We'll see amazing art pieces and forget that it's taken the artist many tears and many years to get to that place. Right now it's easier to see all the beautiful works, but the best we can do is keep on practicing, learn from our mistakes and try and talk with each other so we don't feel alone! I'm still learning, and I'm doubling up on learning to do figure drawing, but I hope one day I can make something I'm proud to show to my friends and family. I know you'll get there too!
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I relate a lot to what you've typed, and because of that I wanted to share a video that's helped me understand that side of me better. I hope it helps!
| 0 | 2,050 | 1.571429 | ||
pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcrcg1u
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hcqygl9
| 1,631,578,996 | 1,631,572,428 | 11 | 6 |
I relate a lot to what you've typed, and because of that I wanted to share a video that's helped me understand that side of me better. I hope it helps!
|
had the same problem the first time around. This is my third attempt at starting, finally got done with the Lines exercise -completely- for the first time without losing complete confidence or patience. Honestly, just keep trying. That first hump you go over will feel that much more gratifying. Like he said in the videos: be patient, be kind to yourself.
| 1 | 6,568 | 1.833333 | ||
pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcqwlgv
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hcu86oe
| 1,631,571,570 | 1,631,637,951 | 10 | 11 |
It's easy to see super talented people all around us and get incredibly inspired but also incredibly envious and discouraged, since they all seem so talented and perfect and we hate the fact that they're so good and we are not. I feel like we kind of forgot that EVERYTHING you want to LEARN takes time to actually learn. Absolutely nothing falls from the sky and is given to you. I know you probably heard this a million times before, but that's because it's true, you will suck at the beginning, you will be frustrated that you suck and the fact that you find enjoyment in something new will definitely pass and you will feel like you want to give up. You have to embrace these feelings and be ready to accept them, because if you don't, they will definitely overtake you and make you lose track of what's actually important, and that's getting better. Hang in there, it will be hard, you will be bad at drawing, since it really is NOT some sort a born talent. It is a skill just like any other and you have to practice for many thousands of hours to get decent at it. Best of luck!
|
I honestly avoided a lot of art in the beginning. By that I mean I didn’t go on instagram and stared at artwork or look at people’s homework on DAB. I just did my personal best and tried to move on. Focus on your own efforts and when you build confidence, then explore a little. The difference between an adult beginner and a child beginner is that an adult beginner will be discouraged with their own progress while a child will not care, they’re just having fun. Try to enjoy the craft.
| 0 | 66,381 | 1.1 | ||
pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcu86oe
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hcsiwnw
| 1,631,637,951 | 1,631,601,777 | 11 | 8 |
I honestly avoided a lot of art in the beginning. By that I mean I didn’t go on instagram and stared at artwork or look at people’s homework on DAB. I just did my personal best and tried to move on. Focus on your own efforts and when you build confidence, then explore a little. The difference between an adult beginner and a child beginner is that an adult beginner will be discouraged with their own progress while a child will not care, they’re just having fun. Try to enjoy the craft.
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Learn to love the process. You’ll hear that over and over and over again, but always keep it in mind. I remember one day I was drawing boxes and I made the first mark, and as soon as I started making the second line, I saw the entire box form in my head. I saw where the next lines had to go, I all but saw them physically drawn out on the paper. Ever since then, I’ve been chasing that high. Sometimes I get it again. Others I don’t. But I’m in it for the process now, 100%.
| 1 | 36,174 | 1.375 | ||
pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcst5lu
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hcu86oe
| 1,631,611,044 | 1,631,637,951 | 10 | 11 |
I am also a beginner, but the more you will draw, the more you will get acquainted with frustration. It's a feeling and it passes. Usually I am very frustrated doing drawabox, so I make sure I am mixing it up with breaks and free drawing (whatever I want). I also took to heart what Uncomfortable said, those excercises are not for being mastered. They just highlight your issues which will sort of improve the more you draw and the more you progress.
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I honestly avoided a lot of art in the beginning. By that I mean I didn’t go on instagram and stared at artwork or look at people’s homework on DAB. I just did my personal best and tried to move on. Focus on your own efforts and when you build confidence, then explore a little. The difference between an adult beginner and a child beginner is that an adult beginner will be discouraged with their own progress while a child will not care, they’re just having fun. Try to enjoy the craft.
| 0 | 26,907 | 1.1 | ||
pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcr824g
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hcu86oe
| 1,631,576,946 | 1,631,637,951 | 7 | 11 |
I had a mini breakdown last night because my ellipses weren't great... I went to bed and drew them much better than before lmao. I think in all honesty we're our own worst critics. We'll see amazing art pieces and forget that it's taken the artist many tears and many years to get to that place. Right now it's easier to see all the beautiful works, but the best we can do is keep on practicing, learn from our mistakes and try and talk with each other so we don't feel alone! I'm still learning, and I'm doubling up on learning to do figure drawing, but I hope one day I can make something I'm proud to show to my friends and family. I know you'll get there too!
|
I honestly avoided a lot of art in the beginning. By that I mean I didn’t go on instagram and stared at artwork or look at people’s homework on DAB. I just did my personal best and tried to move on. Focus on your own efforts and when you build confidence, then explore a little. The difference between an adult beginner and a child beginner is that an adult beginner will be discouraged with their own progress while a child will not care, they’re just having fun. Try to enjoy the craft.
| 0 | 61,005 | 1.571429 | ||
pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcu86oe
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hcqygl9
| 1,631,637,951 | 1,631,572,428 | 11 | 6 |
I honestly avoided a lot of art in the beginning. By that I mean I didn’t go on instagram and stared at artwork or look at people’s homework on DAB. I just did my personal best and tried to move on. Focus on your own efforts and when you build confidence, then explore a little. The difference between an adult beginner and a child beginner is that an adult beginner will be discouraged with their own progress while a child will not care, they’re just having fun. Try to enjoy the craft.
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had the same problem the first time around. This is my third attempt at starting, finally got done with the Lines exercise -completely- for the first time without losing complete confidence or patience. Honestly, just keep trying. That first hump you go over will feel that much more gratifying. Like he said in the videos: be patient, be kind to yourself.
| 1 | 65,523 | 1.833333 | ||
pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcu86oe
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hcteth9
| 1,631,637,951 | 1,631,625,654 | 11 | 6 |
I honestly avoided a lot of art in the beginning. By that I mean I didn’t go on instagram and stared at artwork or look at people’s homework on DAB. I just did my personal best and tried to move on. Focus on your own efforts and when you build confidence, then explore a little. The difference between an adult beginner and a child beginner is that an adult beginner will be discouraged with their own progress while a child will not care, they’re just having fun. Try to enjoy the craft.
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I'm a little farther than you--working on revisions of Lesson 3--and I've put dozens of hours into drawing between Drawabox and the 50% rule. And guess what: Dozens of hours isn't even close to enough to become competent. You need more like hundreds at the very least, probably thousands. If you're like me and you haven't drawn in 30 years, then we got a loooong way to go, so strap in and start producing crappy lines and crappy drawings. Enough of those and eventually you'll start to produce not-so-crappy work.
| 1 | 12,297 | 1.833333 | ||
pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcu86oe
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hcsniz0
| 1,631,637,951 | 1,631,605,731 | 11 | 3 |
I honestly avoided a lot of art in the beginning. By that I mean I didn’t go on instagram and stared at artwork or look at people’s homework on DAB. I just did my personal best and tried to move on. Focus on your own efforts and when you build confidence, then explore a little. The difference between an adult beginner and a child beginner is that an adult beginner will be discouraged with their own progress while a child will not care, they’re just having fun. Try to enjoy the craft.
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There’s different levels of struggle at every experience level because there’s always something to learn or relearn or to express. Try and understand that the struggle is part of the process and just keep going
| 1 | 32,220 | 3.666667 | ||
pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcta85q
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hcu86oe
| 1,631,623,328 | 1,631,637,951 | 3 | 11 |
I like to challenge my weak emotional nature, so that the mind and will can prevail.
I suffer? I will repeat these lines over and over until I see progress, and then it will be possible to tell my weak side - 4 u, and then I, with the face of a winner, go to eat my sweets and play games and sleep peacefully. And so with every topic that I did not understand well or was poorly executed at the beginning. I don't quite understand? I will repeat watching the video over and over again (maybe from other artists too), because every time you understand what you are missed. I dearly loved all my stick figures, hairy lines and curved boxes, because without them I would not have progress. We all (without exception) were complete beginners, and the understanding that drawing is a skill, not a talent, and it takes years, does not come to everyone and not at once. Only those who understand this, will reconcile and continue the path, will go further. You can too =)
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I honestly avoided a lot of art in the beginning. By that I mean I didn’t go on instagram and stared at artwork or look at people’s homework on DAB. I just did my personal best and tried to move on. Focus on your own efforts and when you build confidence, then explore a little. The difference between an adult beginner and a child beginner is that an adult beginner will be discouraged with their own progress while a child will not care, they’re just having fun. Try to enjoy the craft.
| 0 | 14,623 | 3.666667 | ||
pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcsiwnw
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hcst5lu
| 1,631,601,777 | 1,631,611,044 | 8 | 10 |
Learn to love the process. You’ll hear that over and over and over again, but always keep it in mind. I remember one day I was drawing boxes and I made the first mark, and as soon as I started making the second line, I saw the entire box form in my head. I saw where the next lines had to go, I all but saw them physically drawn out on the paper. Ever since then, I’ve been chasing that high. Sometimes I get it again. Others I don’t. But I’m in it for the process now, 100%.
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I am also a beginner, but the more you will draw, the more you will get acquainted with frustration. It's a feeling and it passes. Usually I am very frustrated doing drawabox, so I make sure I am mixing it up with breaks and free drawing (whatever I want). I also took to heart what Uncomfortable said, those excercises are not for being mastered. They just highlight your issues which will sort of improve the more you draw and the more you progress.
| 0 | 9,267 | 1.25 | ||
pnkmuy
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcr824g
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hcsiwnw
| 1,631,576,946 | 1,631,601,777 | 7 | 8 |
I had a mini breakdown last night because my ellipses weren't great... I went to bed and drew them much better than before lmao. I think in all honesty we're our own worst critics. We'll see amazing art pieces and forget that it's taken the artist many tears and many years to get to that place. Right now it's easier to see all the beautiful works, but the best we can do is keep on practicing, learn from our mistakes and try and talk with each other so we don't feel alone! I'm still learning, and I'm doubling up on learning to do figure drawing, but I hope one day I can make something I'm proud to show to my friends and family. I know you'll get there too!
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Learn to love the process. You’ll hear that over and over and over again, but always keep it in mind. I remember one day I was drawing boxes and I made the first mark, and as soon as I started making the second line, I saw the entire box form in my head. I saw where the next lines had to go, I all but saw them physically drawn out on the paper. Ever since then, I’ve been chasing that high. Sometimes I get it again. Others I don’t. But I’m in it for the process now, 100%.
| 0 | 24,831 | 1.142857 | ||
pnkmuy
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcsiwnw
|
hcqygl9
| 1,631,601,777 | 1,631,572,428 | 8 | 6 |
Learn to love the process. You’ll hear that over and over and over again, but always keep it in mind. I remember one day I was drawing boxes and I made the first mark, and as soon as I started making the second line, I saw the entire box form in my head. I saw where the next lines had to go, I all but saw them physically drawn out on the paper. Ever since then, I’ve been chasing that high. Sometimes I get it again. Others I don’t. But I’m in it for the process now, 100%.
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had the same problem the first time around. This is my third attempt at starting, finally got done with the Lines exercise -completely- for the first time without losing complete confidence or patience. Honestly, just keep trying. That first hump you go over will feel that much more gratifying. Like he said in the videos: be patient, be kind to yourself.
| 1 | 29,349 | 1.333333 | ||
pnkmuy
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcst5lu
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hcr824g
| 1,631,611,044 | 1,631,576,946 | 10 | 7 |
I am also a beginner, but the more you will draw, the more you will get acquainted with frustration. It's a feeling and it passes. Usually I am very frustrated doing drawabox, so I make sure I am mixing it up with breaks and free drawing (whatever I want). I also took to heart what Uncomfortable said, those excercises are not for being mastered. They just highlight your issues which will sort of improve the more you draw and the more you progress.
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I had a mini breakdown last night because my ellipses weren't great... I went to bed and drew them much better than before lmao. I think in all honesty we're our own worst critics. We'll see amazing art pieces and forget that it's taken the artist many tears and many years to get to that place. Right now it's easier to see all the beautiful works, but the best we can do is keep on practicing, learn from our mistakes and try and talk with each other so we don't feel alone! I'm still learning, and I'm doubling up on learning to do figure drawing, but I hope one day I can make something I'm proud to show to my friends and family. I know you'll get there too!
| 1 | 34,098 | 1.428571 | ||
pnkmuy
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcqygl9
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hcst5lu
| 1,631,572,428 | 1,631,611,044 | 6 | 10 |
had the same problem the first time around. This is my third attempt at starting, finally got done with the Lines exercise -completely- for the first time without losing complete confidence or patience. Honestly, just keep trying. That first hump you go over will feel that much more gratifying. Like he said in the videos: be patient, be kind to yourself.
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I am also a beginner, but the more you will draw, the more you will get acquainted with frustration. It's a feeling and it passes. Usually I am very frustrated doing drawabox, so I make sure I am mixing it up with breaks and free drawing (whatever I want). I also took to heart what Uncomfortable said, those excercises are not for being mastered. They just highlight your issues which will sort of improve the more you draw and the more you progress.
| 0 | 38,616 | 1.666667 | ||
pnkmuy
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcsniz0
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hcst5lu
| 1,631,605,731 | 1,631,611,044 | 3 | 10 |
There’s different levels of struggle at every experience level because there’s always something to learn or relearn or to express. Try and understand that the struggle is part of the process and just keep going
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I am also a beginner, but the more you will draw, the more you will get acquainted with frustration. It's a feeling and it passes. Usually I am very frustrated doing drawabox, so I make sure I am mixing it up with breaks and free drawing (whatever I want). I also took to heart what Uncomfortable said, those excercises are not for being mastered. They just highlight your issues which will sort of improve the more you draw and the more you progress.
| 0 | 5,313 | 3.333333 | ||
pnkmuy
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcr824g
|
hcqygl9
| 1,631,576,946 | 1,631,572,428 | 7 | 6 |
I had a mini breakdown last night because my ellipses weren't great... I went to bed and drew them much better than before lmao. I think in all honesty we're our own worst critics. We'll see amazing art pieces and forget that it's taken the artist many tears and many years to get to that place. Right now it's easier to see all the beautiful works, but the best we can do is keep on practicing, learn from our mistakes and try and talk with each other so we don't feel alone! I'm still learning, and I'm doubling up on learning to do figure drawing, but I hope one day I can make something I'm proud to show to my friends and family. I know you'll get there too!
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had the same problem the first time around. This is my third attempt at starting, finally got done with the Lines exercise -completely- for the first time without losing complete confidence or patience. Honestly, just keep trying. That first hump you go over will feel that much more gratifying. Like he said in the videos: be patient, be kind to yourself.
| 1 | 4,518 | 1.166667 | ||
pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcteth9
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hcsniz0
| 1,631,625,654 | 1,631,605,731 | 6 | 3 |
I'm a little farther than you--working on revisions of Lesson 3--and I've put dozens of hours into drawing between Drawabox and the 50% rule. And guess what: Dozens of hours isn't even close to enough to become competent. You need more like hundreds at the very least, probably thousands. If you're like me and you haven't drawn in 30 years, then we got a loooong way to go, so strap in and start producing crappy lines and crappy drawings. Enough of those and eventually you'll start to produce not-so-crappy work.
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There’s different levels of struggle at every experience level because there’s always something to learn or relearn or to express. Try and understand that the struggle is part of the process and just keep going
| 1 | 19,923 | 2 | ||
pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hcteth9
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hcta85q
| 1,631,625,654 | 1,631,623,328 | 6 | 3 |
I'm a little farther than you--working on revisions of Lesson 3--and I've put dozens of hours into drawing between Drawabox and the 50% rule. And guess what: Dozens of hours isn't even close to enough to become competent. You need more like hundreds at the very least, probably thousands. If you're like me and you haven't drawn in 30 years, then we got a loooong way to go, so strap in and start producing crappy lines and crappy drawings. Enough of those and eventually you'll start to produce not-so-crappy work.
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I like to challenge my weak emotional nature, so that the mind and will can prevail.
I suffer? I will repeat these lines over and over until I see progress, and then it will be possible to tell my weak side - 4 u, and then I, with the face of a winner, go to eat my sweets and play games and sleep peacefully. And so with every topic that I did not understand well or was poorly executed at the beginning. I don't quite understand? I will repeat watching the video over and over again (maybe from other artists too), because every time you understand what you are missed. I dearly loved all my stick figures, hairy lines and curved boxes, because without them I would not have progress. We all (without exception) were complete beginners, and the understanding that drawing is a skill, not a talent, and it takes years, does not come to everyone and not at once. Only those who understand this, will reconcile and continue the path, will go further. You can too =)
| 1 | 2,326 | 2 | ||
pnkmuy
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me)
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hd0uz73
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hcw2wz1
| 1,631,754,491 | 1,631,665,909 | 3 | 2 |
"I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later" This is a common misconception that seems to hold a lot of people back. The fact of the matter is that doing everything right from the start is what's hard. If you're willing to put in the effort, focused practice will allow you to fix bad habits later. The issue is people often don't know about, or even care about, the mistakes that are holding them back and that creates the impression that it's impossible to fix long term habits. Bear in mind that many many professional artists were drawing "wrong" for years before they ever learned the right way to do it. As you become competent in certain aspects of a skill you will actually have more mental bandwidth free to focus on the areas where you're lacking.
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I did draw a box 5 years ago i think, then a lot happened in the middle, i needed to get bacl to the basics.. so am doing draw a box again. I am a 'professional' artist per say caz i earn my living from it.. and i still make the exact same mistakes now as you do caz am out of practice. It keeps me going thinking rome wasn't built in a day. And the master has failed more times than the amature has even dared attempting. Setting aside my ego and doing the fundamentals again has already improved my comission stuff.. and it only has been 4 days
| 1 | 88,582 | 1.5 | ||
gusdsu
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
Just started DAB and I'm struggling with muscle pain. Am I a weakling, or doing it wrong? I started a few days ago and I'm up to ghosted planes. Everyday I've been practising these three tasks, rather unsuccessfully though I can already see improvement. Problem though, I experience muscle pain in my bicep/upper arm after 20 minutes of practise, which cuts my ability to work consistently. I usually only do maybe an hour or two a day because of this as I have to take long breaks. I always try my best to draw from the shoulder, though its new to me and I'm basically a toddler. I certainly have toddler muscles at least. I just did a page of planes and I'm finding now in addition to the bicep pain, my wrist and forearm hurts. Is this normal for a toddler artist, or am I possibly doing something wrong?
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fsld56f
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fsljlit
| 1,591,064,516 | 1,591,068,344 | 18 | 22 |
Do some stretches before you start drawing. I had the same problem so I started doing hand and finger stretches plus some warm up drawings and it has helped immensely.
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You dabbed so hard, you had muscle problems?
| 0 | 3,828 | 1.222222 | ||
gusdsu
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
Just started DAB and I'm struggling with muscle pain. Am I a weakling, or doing it wrong? I started a few days ago and I'm up to ghosted planes. Everyday I've been practising these three tasks, rather unsuccessfully though I can already see improvement. Problem though, I experience muscle pain in my bicep/upper arm after 20 minutes of practise, which cuts my ability to work consistently. I usually only do maybe an hour or two a day because of this as I have to take long breaks. I always try my best to draw from the shoulder, though its new to me and I'm basically a toddler. I certainly have toddler muscles at least. I just did a page of planes and I'm finding now in addition to the bicep pain, my wrist and forearm hurts. Is this normal for a toddler artist, or am I possibly doing something wrong?
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fsl9i12
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fsljlit
| 1,591,062,436 | 1,591,068,344 | 10 | 22 |
Light muscle pain sounds normal, just remember to take breaks often and drink water to prevent cramps. But remember, if you ever feel any kind of strain in your wrist or fingers, put the pencil down and rest for atleast a day. Pinched nerves can easily be worsened with repetitive motions.
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You dabbed so hard, you had muscle problems?
| 0 | 5,908 | 2.2 | ||
gusdsu
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
Just started DAB and I'm struggling with muscle pain. Am I a weakling, or doing it wrong? I started a few days ago and I'm up to ghosted planes. Everyday I've been practising these three tasks, rather unsuccessfully though I can already see improvement. Problem though, I experience muscle pain in my bicep/upper arm after 20 minutes of practise, which cuts my ability to work consistently. I usually only do maybe an hour or two a day because of this as I have to take long breaks. I always try my best to draw from the shoulder, though its new to me and I'm basically a toddler. I certainly have toddler muscles at least. I just did a page of planes and I'm finding now in addition to the bicep pain, my wrist and forearm hurts. Is this normal for a toddler artist, or am I possibly doing something wrong?
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fsljlit
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fskynnh
| 1,591,068,344 | 1,591,056,395 | 22 | 9 |
You dabbed so hard, you had muscle problems?
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If your arm muscles hurt after practice, that means you're doing something right, and it's absolutely normal to experience that pain if you're just starting to use muscles you haven't used effectively before. I'm actually starting to think about doing exercises to strengthen my arm and wrist muscles for this cause. Just take a break if you can't stand the pain anymore, and come back to your session when you feel better. Don't force yourself to go on in any sharp pain, you won't want to injure yourself.
| 1 | 11,949 | 2.444444 | ||
gusdsu
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
Just started DAB and I'm struggling with muscle pain. Am I a weakling, or doing it wrong? I started a few days ago and I'm up to ghosted planes. Everyday I've been practising these three tasks, rather unsuccessfully though I can already see improvement. Problem though, I experience muscle pain in my bicep/upper arm after 20 minutes of practise, which cuts my ability to work consistently. I usually only do maybe an hour or two a day because of this as I have to take long breaks. I always try my best to draw from the shoulder, though its new to me and I'm basically a toddler. I certainly have toddler muscles at least. I just did a page of planes and I'm finding now in addition to the bicep pain, my wrist and forearm hurts. Is this normal for a toddler artist, or am I possibly doing something wrong?
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fsld56f
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fsl9i12
| 1,591,064,516 | 1,591,062,436 | 18 | 10 |
Do some stretches before you start drawing. I had the same problem so I started doing hand and finger stretches plus some warm up drawings and it has helped immensely.
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Light muscle pain sounds normal, just remember to take breaks often and drink water to prevent cramps. But remember, if you ever feel any kind of strain in your wrist or fingers, put the pencil down and rest for atleast a day. Pinched nerves can easily be worsened with repetitive motions.
| 1 | 2,080 | 1.8 | ||
gusdsu
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
Just started DAB and I'm struggling with muscle pain. Am I a weakling, or doing it wrong? I started a few days ago and I'm up to ghosted planes. Everyday I've been practising these three tasks, rather unsuccessfully though I can already see improvement. Problem though, I experience muscle pain in my bicep/upper arm after 20 minutes of practise, which cuts my ability to work consistently. I usually only do maybe an hour or two a day because of this as I have to take long breaks. I always try my best to draw from the shoulder, though its new to me and I'm basically a toddler. I certainly have toddler muscles at least. I just did a page of planes and I'm finding now in addition to the bicep pain, my wrist and forearm hurts. Is this normal for a toddler artist, or am I possibly doing something wrong?
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fsld56f
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fskynnh
| 1,591,064,516 | 1,591,056,395 | 18 | 9 |
Do some stretches before you start drawing. I had the same problem so I started doing hand and finger stretches plus some warm up drawings and it has helped immensely.
|
If your arm muscles hurt after practice, that means you're doing something right, and it's absolutely normal to experience that pain if you're just starting to use muscles you haven't used effectively before. I'm actually starting to think about doing exercises to strengthen my arm and wrist muscles for this cause. Just take a break if you can't stand the pain anymore, and come back to your session when you feel better. Don't force yourself to go on in any sharp pain, you won't want to injure yourself.
| 1 | 8,121 | 2 | ||
gusdsu
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
Just started DAB and I'm struggling with muscle pain. Am I a weakling, or doing it wrong? I started a few days ago and I'm up to ghosted planes. Everyday I've been practising these three tasks, rather unsuccessfully though I can already see improvement. Problem though, I experience muscle pain in my bicep/upper arm after 20 minutes of practise, which cuts my ability to work consistently. I usually only do maybe an hour or two a day because of this as I have to take long breaks. I always try my best to draw from the shoulder, though its new to me and I'm basically a toddler. I certainly have toddler muscles at least. I just did a page of planes and I'm finding now in addition to the bicep pain, my wrist and forearm hurts. Is this normal for a toddler artist, or am I possibly doing something wrong?
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fsl9i12
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fsmdi1o
| 1,591,062,436 | 1,591,092,228 | 10 | 16 |
Light muscle pain sounds normal, just remember to take breaks often and drink water to prevent cramps. But remember, if you ever feel any kind of strain in your wrist or fingers, put the pencil down and rest for atleast a day. Pinched nerves can easily be worsened with repetitive motions.
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Right now, you're exercising muscles that you don't normally use in your day-to-day life, which means that they're weak and become sore easily. But as time goes on your shoulder should stop hurting so badly.
| 0 | 29,792 | 1.6 | ||
gusdsu
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
Just started DAB and I'm struggling with muscle pain. Am I a weakling, or doing it wrong? I started a few days ago and I'm up to ghosted planes. Everyday I've been practising these three tasks, rather unsuccessfully though I can already see improvement. Problem though, I experience muscle pain in my bicep/upper arm after 20 minutes of practise, which cuts my ability to work consistently. I usually only do maybe an hour or two a day because of this as I have to take long breaks. I always try my best to draw from the shoulder, though its new to me and I'm basically a toddler. I certainly have toddler muscles at least. I just did a page of planes and I'm finding now in addition to the bicep pain, my wrist and forearm hurts. Is this normal for a toddler artist, or am I possibly doing something wrong?
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fslw1kq
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fsmdi1o
| 1,591,076,692 | 1,591,092,228 | 11 | 16 |
Try and work out if you have pain or soreness first. Pain means you've actual injured yourself and should rest plus stop drawing the way you have been. If it's soreness, it means you're training muscles you haven't used before. You still need to rest to let it recover and get stronger. Also, have you been doing anything else besides Drawabox? As per Lesson 0, you should not grind anything and draw for fun 50% of the time.
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Right now, you're exercising muscles that you don't normally use in your day-to-day life, which means that they're weak and become sore easily. But as time goes on your shoulder should stop hurting so badly.
| 0 | 15,536 | 1.454545 | ||
gusdsu
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
Just started DAB and I'm struggling with muscle pain. Am I a weakling, or doing it wrong? I started a few days ago and I'm up to ghosted planes. Everyday I've been practising these three tasks, rather unsuccessfully though I can already see improvement. Problem though, I experience muscle pain in my bicep/upper arm after 20 minutes of practise, which cuts my ability to work consistently. I usually only do maybe an hour or two a day because of this as I have to take long breaks. I always try my best to draw from the shoulder, though its new to me and I'm basically a toddler. I certainly have toddler muscles at least. I just did a page of planes and I'm finding now in addition to the bicep pain, my wrist and forearm hurts. Is this normal for a toddler artist, or am I possibly doing something wrong?
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fsm2xkx
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fsmdi1o
| 1,591,082,207 | 1,591,092,228 | 9 | 16 |
I have only noticed issues in my shoulder. I am also getting some neck issues, but that is because I haven't gotten the right set up so I am not having to look down. My friend's husband is a professional artist and she told me that is pretty normal when you really start learning to draw primarily from your shoulder. She also advised me to be careful to not grip the pen too hard as that can cause a lot of other issues.
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Right now, you're exercising muscles that you don't normally use in your day-to-day life, which means that they're weak and become sore easily. But as time goes on your shoulder should stop hurting so badly.
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gusdsu
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
Just started DAB and I'm struggling with muscle pain. Am I a weakling, or doing it wrong? I started a few days ago and I'm up to ghosted planes. Everyday I've been practising these three tasks, rather unsuccessfully though I can already see improvement. Problem though, I experience muscle pain in my bicep/upper arm after 20 minutes of practise, which cuts my ability to work consistently. I usually only do maybe an hour or two a day because of this as I have to take long breaks. I always try my best to draw from the shoulder, though its new to me and I'm basically a toddler. I certainly have toddler muscles at least. I just did a page of planes and I'm finding now in addition to the bicep pain, my wrist and forearm hurts. Is this normal for a toddler artist, or am I possibly doing something wrong?
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fskynnh
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fsmdi1o
| 1,591,056,395 | 1,591,092,228 | 9 | 16 |
If your arm muscles hurt after practice, that means you're doing something right, and it's absolutely normal to experience that pain if you're just starting to use muscles you haven't used effectively before. I'm actually starting to think about doing exercises to strengthen my arm and wrist muscles for this cause. Just take a break if you can't stand the pain anymore, and come back to your session when you feel better. Don't force yourself to go on in any sharp pain, you won't want to injure yourself.
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Right now, you're exercising muscles that you don't normally use in your day-to-day life, which means that they're weak and become sore easily. But as time goes on your shoulder should stop hurting so badly.
| 0 | 35,833 | 1.777778 | ||
gusdsu
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
Just started DAB and I'm struggling with muscle pain. Am I a weakling, or doing it wrong? I started a few days ago and I'm up to ghosted planes. Everyday I've been practising these three tasks, rather unsuccessfully though I can already see improvement. Problem though, I experience muscle pain in my bicep/upper arm after 20 minutes of practise, which cuts my ability to work consistently. I usually only do maybe an hour or two a day because of this as I have to take long breaks. I always try my best to draw from the shoulder, though its new to me and I'm basically a toddler. I certainly have toddler muscles at least. I just did a page of planes and I'm finding now in addition to the bicep pain, my wrist and forearm hurts. Is this normal for a toddler artist, or am I possibly doing something wrong?
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fslw1kq
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fsl9i12
| 1,591,076,692 | 1,591,062,436 | 11 | 10 |
Try and work out if you have pain or soreness first. Pain means you've actual injured yourself and should rest plus stop drawing the way you have been. If it's soreness, it means you're training muscles you haven't used before. You still need to rest to let it recover and get stronger. Also, have you been doing anything else besides Drawabox? As per Lesson 0, you should not grind anything and draw for fun 50% of the time.
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Light muscle pain sounds normal, just remember to take breaks often and drink water to prevent cramps. But remember, if you ever feel any kind of strain in your wrist or fingers, put the pencil down and rest for atleast a day. Pinched nerves can easily be worsened with repetitive motions.
| 1 | 14,256 | 1.1 | ||
gusdsu
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
Just started DAB and I'm struggling with muscle pain. Am I a weakling, or doing it wrong? I started a few days ago and I'm up to ghosted planes. Everyday I've been practising these three tasks, rather unsuccessfully though I can already see improvement. Problem though, I experience muscle pain in my bicep/upper arm after 20 minutes of practise, which cuts my ability to work consistently. I usually only do maybe an hour or two a day because of this as I have to take long breaks. I always try my best to draw from the shoulder, though its new to me and I'm basically a toddler. I certainly have toddler muscles at least. I just did a page of planes and I'm finding now in addition to the bicep pain, my wrist and forearm hurts. Is this normal for a toddler artist, or am I possibly doing something wrong?
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fsl9i12
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fskynnh
| 1,591,062,436 | 1,591,056,395 | 10 | 9 |
Light muscle pain sounds normal, just remember to take breaks often and drink water to prevent cramps. But remember, if you ever feel any kind of strain in your wrist or fingers, put the pencil down and rest for atleast a day. Pinched nerves can easily be worsened with repetitive motions.
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If your arm muscles hurt after practice, that means you're doing something right, and it's absolutely normal to experience that pain if you're just starting to use muscles you haven't used effectively before. I'm actually starting to think about doing exercises to strengthen my arm and wrist muscles for this cause. Just take a break if you can't stand the pain anymore, and come back to your session when you feel better. Don't force yourself to go on in any sharp pain, you won't want to injure yourself.
| 1 | 6,041 | 1.111111 | ||
gusdsu
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.97 |
Just started DAB and I'm struggling with muscle pain. Am I a weakling, or doing it wrong? I started a few days ago and I'm up to ghosted planes. Everyday I've been practising these three tasks, rather unsuccessfully though I can already see improvement. Problem though, I experience muscle pain in my bicep/upper arm after 20 minutes of practise, which cuts my ability to work consistently. I usually only do maybe an hour or two a day because of this as I have to take long breaks. I always try my best to draw from the shoulder, though its new to me and I'm basically a toddler. I certainly have toddler muscles at least. I just did a page of planes and I'm finding now in addition to the bicep pain, my wrist and forearm hurts. Is this normal for a toddler artist, or am I possibly doing something wrong?
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fskynnh
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fslw1kq
| 1,591,056,395 | 1,591,076,692 | 9 | 11 |
If your arm muscles hurt after practice, that means you're doing something right, and it's absolutely normal to experience that pain if you're just starting to use muscles you haven't used effectively before. I'm actually starting to think about doing exercises to strengthen my arm and wrist muscles for this cause. Just take a break if you can't stand the pain anymore, and come back to your session when you feel better. Don't force yourself to go on in any sharp pain, you won't want to injure yourself.
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Try and work out if you have pain or soreness first. Pain means you've actual injured yourself and should rest plus stop drawing the way you have been. If it's soreness, it means you're training muscles you haven't used before. You still need to rest to let it recover and get stronger. Also, have you been doing anything else besides Drawabox? As per Lesson 0, you should not grind anything and draw for fun 50% of the time.
| 0 | 20,297 | 1.222222 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftn9xzn
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ftny3ml
| 1,591,836,824 | 1,591,851,128 | 9 | 13 |
There's a video by Uncomfortable, it will feel hard. You don't use those muscles so they are underdeveloped. You can put your other hand on the shoulder to feel if you are using it. https://youtu.be/gAtmiQgW6As
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I started using my easel instead of the drafting table, removed the stool and took a step back. It took adjustment. I didn't work on projects as much as I simply practiced drawing random lines and contours for a few days and it started feeling more normal. You aren't used to raising your arms so much at first. It's also just one technique of many that I'd employ. My main use is for long "standout" hairs and contours such as faces and body lines. Then I go in close with the elbow and forearm for tightening up the lines and adding detail. When I want *fine* detail I use a ruler propped against my arm and the board my work is taped on(not on the work itself) and I focus on wrist and finger movements. And if you really want to tool an illustration around to the fullest you can add or start with all the techniques available on a drafting table as well. I don't usually go this far, I tend to seperate my works to purely on easel or on table but I know people who do it and every other thing just to get a perfect small line.
| 0 | 14,304 | 1.444444 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftmpe8d
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ftny3ml
| 1,591,826,044 | 1,591,851,128 | 6 | 13 |
Maybe adjust how you’re sitting? Bring the table higher, incline the surface...I’m sure there’s a lot you can do but you’re not giving us a lot of detail about how you’re sitting. Also you don’t need to lock your wrist and elbow. It’s good to practice drawing with your shoulder, but eventually you’re going to be using all three at the same time.
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I started using my easel instead of the drafting table, removed the stool and took a step back. It took adjustment. I didn't work on projects as much as I simply practiced drawing random lines and contours for a few days and it started feeling more normal. You aren't used to raising your arms so much at first. It's also just one technique of many that I'd employ. My main use is for long "standout" hairs and contours such as faces and body lines. Then I go in close with the elbow and forearm for tightening up the lines and adding detail. When I want *fine* detail I use a ruler propped against my arm and the board my work is taped on(not on the work itself) and I focus on wrist and finger movements. And if you really want to tool an illustration around to the fullest you can add or start with all the techniques available on a drafting table as well. I don't usually go this far, I tend to seperate my works to purely on easel or on table but I know people who do it and every other thing just to get a perfect small line.
| 0 | 25,084 | 2.166667 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftny3ml
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ftmtyni
| 1,591,851,128 | 1,591,828,336 | 13 | 5 |
I started using my easel instead of the drafting table, removed the stool and took a step back. It took adjustment. I didn't work on projects as much as I simply practiced drawing random lines and contours for a few days and it started feeling more normal. You aren't used to raising your arms so much at first. It's also just one technique of many that I'd employ. My main use is for long "standout" hairs and contours such as faces and body lines. Then I go in close with the elbow and forearm for tightening up the lines and adding detail. When I want *fine* detail I use a ruler propped against my arm and the board my work is taped on(not on the work itself) and I focus on wrist and finger movements. And if you really want to tool an illustration around to the fullest you can add or start with all the techniques available on a drafting table as well. I don't usually go this far, I tend to seperate my works to purely on easel or on table but I know people who do it and every other thing just to get a perfect small line.
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There will be slight movement in your elbow, it's necessary to prevent your hand from lifting off the page. How long have you been practicing?
| 1 | 22,792 | 2.6 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftmvzdt
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ftny3ml
| 1,591,829,382 | 1,591,851,128 | 5 | 13 |
Yeah, the idea isn’t to lock every other joint below your shoulder. When you’re told to draw from your shoulder, it means to use your shoulder as the primary joint. Think of it like throwing a baseball. Most of the power and direction comes from your shoulder but your elbow, wrist, and fingers help push things along and keep the motion straight.
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I started using my easel instead of the drafting table, removed the stool and took a step back. It took adjustment. I didn't work on projects as much as I simply practiced drawing random lines and contours for a few days and it started feeling more normal. You aren't used to raising your arms so much at first. It's also just one technique of many that I'd employ. My main use is for long "standout" hairs and contours such as faces and body lines. Then I go in close with the elbow and forearm for tightening up the lines and adding detail. When I want *fine* detail I use a ruler propped against my arm and the board my work is taped on(not on the work itself) and I focus on wrist and finger movements. And if you really want to tool an illustration around to the fullest you can add or start with all the techniques available on a drafting table as well. I don't usually go this far, I tend to seperate my works to purely on easel or on table but I know people who do it and every other thing just to get a perfect small line.
| 0 | 21,746 | 2.6 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftn9cj6
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ftny3ml
| 1,591,836,496 | 1,591,851,128 | 5 | 13 |
Try taping paper to a wall and play with experimenting with different motion types. Make little rules ie. this drawing ill try with my arm fully extended. Think about movement and the way it effects your mark making. Now you may not get the exact "style" of drawing you're looking for but the exercise is to help you discover how posture effects your drawing. Hope this helps!
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I started using my easel instead of the drafting table, removed the stool and took a step back. It took adjustment. I didn't work on projects as much as I simply practiced drawing random lines and contours for a few days and it started feeling more normal. You aren't used to raising your arms so much at first. It's also just one technique of many that I'd employ. My main use is for long "standout" hairs and contours such as faces and body lines. Then I go in close with the elbow and forearm for tightening up the lines and adding detail. When I want *fine* detail I use a ruler propped against my arm and the board my work is taped on(not on the work itself) and I focus on wrist and finger movements. And if you really want to tool an illustration around to the fullest you can add or start with all the techniques available on a drafting table as well. I don't usually go this far, I tend to seperate my works to purely on easel or on table but I know people who do it and every other thing just to get a perfect small line.
| 0 | 14,632 | 2.6 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftny3ml
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ftn0bnh
| 1,591,851,128 | 1,591,831,673 | 13 | 3 |
I started using my easel instead of the drafting table, removed the stool and took a step back. It took adjustment. I didn't work on projects as much as I simply practiced drawing random lines and contours for a few days and it started feeling more normal. You aren't used to raising your arms so much at first. It's also just one technique of many that I'd employ. My main use is for long "standout" hairs and contours such as faces and body lines. Then I go in close with the elbow and forearm for tightening up the lines and adding detail. When I want *fine* detail I use a ruler propped against my arm and the board my work is taped on(not on the work itself) and I focus on wrist and finger movements. And if you really want to tool an illustration around to the fullest you can add or start with all the techniques available on a drafting table as well. I don't usually go this far, I tend to seperate my works to purely on easel or on table but I know people who do it and every other thing just to get a perfect small line.
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Yes I'm learning that chair height matters as well as if starting position of drawing a line is too close to or too far from my body. It all seems to matter. But still, some days it all seems to flow very smooth and some days I can't draw a straight smooth line if i had to.
| 1 | 19,455 | 4.333333 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftny3ml
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ftn8z2o
| 1,591,851,128 | 1,591,836,293 | 13 | 2 |
I started using my easel instead of the drafting table, removed the stool and took a step back. It took adjustment. I didn't work on projects as much as I simply practiced drawing random lines and contours for a few days and it started feeling more normal. You aren't used to raising your arms so much at first. It's also just one technique of many that I'd employ. My main use is for long "standout" hairs and contours such as faces and body lines. Then I go in close with the elbow and forearm for tightening up the lines and adding detail. When I want *fine* detail I use a ruler propped against my arm and the board my work is taped on(not on the work itself) and I focus on wrist and finger movements. And if you really want to tool an illustration around to the fullest you can add or start with all the techniques available on a drafting table as well. I don't usually go this far, I tend to seperate my works to purely on easel or on table but I know people who do it and every other thing just to get a perfect small line.
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I've tried a few things: I've sat on pillows or blankets to give me more height/freedom to move my arm. I've gotten one of those tilted board-canvas things to put my sketchbook on. They both helped me get a more comfortable motion to move my shoulder with. It could be that you just need practice with it. It might help to try to envision "pushing" the pen with just your shoulder instead of focusing on using your shoulder. I find that my arm naturally locks up and makes fluid motions when I think of it that way.
| 1 | 14,835 | 6.5 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftnowjw
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ftn9xzn
| 1,591,845,138 | 1,591,836,824 | 13 | 9 |
So drawing with the shoulder feels really awkward at first, but the goal is to have it as a tool in your kit of drawing movements, not exclusively use it always. If you have ever studied anatomy you'll know that the wrist, elbow, and shoulder all rotate and move in very different ways, and that means you can use them for very different things in drawing. wrists are good for quick movements and small curves. Elbows are good for wide sweeping arcs and covering a large area loosely (like a background). Shoulders are your go to for straight lines and making larger lines appear smooth. Think of each like a different paint brush. You need them all to be able to completely control what you are making. As for tips for improving shoulder drawing specifically. Firstly use bigger paper. It seriously helps so much. I'd recommend at least an 11x14 but 16x20 or 24x36 is much better. I'd also recommend adjusting how you are sitting. Sit upright and Try to have your paper at an angle if you can. Also, try holding the pencil or charcoal further back (middle of the pencil or a bit further) Downstrokes are the easiest to accomplish first so start by just using your shoulder for those. As you get more used to it, experiment with other movements and also incorporate elbow and wrist movements for some of the more specific details and flourishes you may want. don't forget to rotate the page if you are struggling. Eventually switching between all three will be totally seamless and you'll have much more control over how you draw
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There's a video by Uncomfortable, it will feel hard. You don't use those muscles so they are underdeveloped. You can put your other hand on the shoulder to feel if you are using it. https://youtu.be/gAtmiQgW6As
| 1 | 8,314 | 1.444444 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftmpe8d
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ftnowjw
| 1,591,826,044 | 1,591,845,138 | 6 | 13 |
Maybe adjust how you’re sitting? Bring the table higher, incline the surface...I’m sure there’s a lot you can do but you’re not giving us a lot of detail about how you’re sitting. Also you don’t need to lock your wrist and elbow. It’s good to practice drawing with your shoulder, but eventually you’re going to be using all three at the same time.
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So drawing with the shoulder feels really awkward at first, but the goal is to have it as a tool in your kit of drawing movements, not exclusively use it always. If you have ever studied anatomy you'll know that the wrist, elbow, and shoulder all rotate and move in very different ways, and that means you can use them for very different things in drawing. wrists are good for quick movements and small curves. Elbows are good for wide sweeping arcs and covering a large area loosely (like a background). Shoulders are your go to for straight lines and making larger lines appear smooth. Think of each like a different paint brush. You need them all to be able to completely control what you are making. As for tips for improving shoulder drawing specifically. Firstly use bigger paper. It seriously helps so much. I'd recommend at least an 11x14 but 16x20 or 24x36 is much better. I'd also recommend adjusting how you are sitting. Sit upright and Try to have your paper at an angle if you can. Also, try holding the pencil or charcoal further back (middle of the pencil or a bit further) Downstrokes are the easiest to accomplish first so start by just using your shoulder for those. As you get more used to it, experiment with other movements and also incorporate elbow and wrist movements for some of the more specific details and flourishes you may want. don't forget to rotate the page if you are struggling. Eventually switching between all three will be totally seamless and you'll have much more control over how you draw
| 0 | 19,094 | 2.166667 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftmtyni
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ftnowjw
| 1,591,828,336 | 1,591,845,138 | 5 | 13 |
There will be slight movement in your elbow, it's necessary to prevent your hand from lifting off the page. How long have you been practicing?
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So drawing with the shoulder feels really awkward at first, but the goal is to have it as a tool in your kit of drawing movements, not exclusively use it always. If you have ever studied anatomy you'll know that the wrist, elbow, and shoulder all rotate and move in very different ways, and that means you can use them for very different things in drawing. wrists are good for quick movements and small curves. Elbows are good for wide sweeping arcs and covering a large area loosely (like a background). Shoulders are your go to for straight lines and making larger lines appear smooth. Think of each like a different paint brush. You need them all to be able to completely control what you are making. As for tips for improving shoulder drawing specifically. Firstly use bigger paper. It seriously helps so much. I'd recommend at least an 11x14 but 16x20 or 24x36 is much better. I'd also recommend adjusting how you are sitting. Sit upright and Try to have your paper at an angle if you can. Also, try holding the pencil or charcoal further back (middle of the pencil or a bit further) Downstrokes are the easiest to accomplish first so start by just using your shoulder for those. As you get more used to it, experiment with other movements and also incorporate elbow and wrist movements for some of the more specific details and flourishes you may want. don't forget to rotate the page if you are struggling. Eventually switching between all three will be totally seamless and you'll have much more control over how you draw
| 0 | 16,802 | 2.6 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftnowjw
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ftmvzdt
| 1,591,845,138 | 1,591,829,382 | 13 | 5 |
So drawing with the shoulder feels really awkward at first, but the goal is to have it as a tool in your kit of drawing movements, not exclusively use it always. If you have ever studied anatomy you'll know that the wrist, elbow, and shoulder all rotate and move in very different ways, and that means you can use them for very different things in drawing. wrists are good for quick movements and small curves. Elbows are good for wide sweeping arcs and covering a large area loosely (like a background). Shoulders are your go to for straight lines and making larger lines appear smooth. Think of each like a different paint brush. You need them all to be able to completely control what you are making. As for tips for improving shoulder drawing specifically. Firstly use bigger paper. It seriously helps so much. I'd recommend at least an 11x14 but 16x20 or 24x36 is much better. I'd also recommend adjusting how you are sitting. Sit upright and Try to have your paper at an angle if you can. Also, try holding the pencil or charcoal further back (middle of the pencil or a bit further) Downstrokes are the easiest to accomplish first so start by just using your shoulder for those. As you get more used to it, experiment with other movements and also incorporate elbow and wrist movements for some of the more specific details and flourishes you may want. don't forget to rotate the page if you are struggling. Eventually switching between all three will be totally seamless and you'll have much more control over how you draw
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Yeah, the idea isn’t to lock every other joint below your shoulder. When you’re told to draw from your shoulder, it means to use your shoulder as the primary joint. Think of it like throwing a baseball. Most of the power and direction comes from your shoulder but your elbow, wrist, and fingers help push things along and keep the motion straight.
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h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftnowjw
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ftn9cj6
| 1,591,845,138 | 1,591,836,496 | 13 | 5 |
So drawing with the shoulder feels really awkward at first, but the goal is to have it as a tool in your kit of drawing movements, not exclusively use it always. If you have ever studied anatomy you'll know that the wrist, elbow, and shoulder all rotate and move in very different ways, and that means you can use them for very different things in drawing. wrists are good for quick movements and small curves. Elbows are good for wide sweeping arcs and covering a large area loosely (like a background). Shoulders are your go to for straight lines and making larger lines appear smooth. Think of each like a different paint brush. You need them all to be able to completely control what you are making. As for tips for improving shoulder drawing specifically. Firstly use bigger paper. It seriously helps so much. I'd recommend at least an 11x14 but 16x20 or 24x36 is much better. I'd also recommend adjusting how you are sitting. Sit upright and Try to have your paper at an angle if you can. Also, try holding the pencil or charcoal further back (middle of the pencil or a bit further) Downstrokes are the easiest to accomplish first so start by just using your shoulder for those. As you get more used to it, experiment with other movements and also incorporate elbow and wrist movements for some of the more specific details and flourishes you may want. don't forget to rotate the page if you are struggling. Eventually switching between all three will be totally seamless and you'll have much more control over how you draw
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Try taping paper to a wall and play with experimenting with different motion types. Make little rules ie. this drawing ill try with my arm fully extended. Think about movement and the way it effects your mark making. Now you may not get the exact "style" of drawing you're looking for but the exercise is to help you discover how posture effects your drawing. Hope this helps!
| 1 | 8,642 | 2.6 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftn0bnh
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ftnowjw
| 1,591,831,673 | 1,591,845,138 | 3 | 13 |
Yes I'm learning that chair height matters as well as if starting position of drawing a line is too close to or too far from my body. It all seems to matter. But still, some days it all seems to flow very smooth and some days I can't draw a straight smooth line if i had to.
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So drawing with the shoulder feels really awkward at first, but the goal is to have it as a tool in your kit of drawing movements, not exclusively use it always. If you have ever studied anatomy you'll know that the wrist, elbow, and shoulder all rotate and move in very different ways, and that means you can use them for very different things in drawing. wrists are good for quick movements and small curves. Elbows are good for wide sweeping arcs and covering a large area loosely (like a background). Shoulders are your go to for straight lines and making larger lines appear smooth. Think of each like a different paint brush. You need them all to be able to completely control what you are making. As for tips for improving shoulder drawing specifically. Firstly use bigger paper. It seriously helps so much. I'd recommend at least an 11x14 but 16x20 or 24x36 is much better. I'd also recommend adjusting how you are sitting. Sit upright and Try to have your paper at an angle if you can. Also, try holding the pencil or charcoal further back (middle of the pencil or a bit further) Downstrokes are the easiest to accomplish first so start by just using your shoulder for those. As you get more used to it, experiment with other movements and also incorporate elbow and wrist movements for some of the more specific details and flourishes you may want. don't forget to rotate the page if you are struggling. Eventually switching between all three will be totally seamless and you'll have much more control over how you draw
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h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftnowjw
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ftn8z2o
| 1,591,845,138 | 1,591,836,293 | 13 | 2 |
So drawing with the shoulder feels really awkward at first, but the goal is to have it as a tool in your kit of drawing movements, not exclusively use it always. If you have ever studied anatomy you'll know that the wrist, elbow, and shoulder all rotate and move in very different ways, and that means you can use them for very different things in drawing. wrists are good for quick movements and small curves. Elbows are good for wide sweeping arcs and covering a large area loosely (like a background). Shoulders are your go to for straight lines and making larger lines appear smooth. Think of each like a different paint brush. You need them all to be able to completely control what you are making. As for tips for improving shoulder drawing specifically. Firstly use bigger paper. It seriously helps so much. I'd recommend at least an 11x14 but 16x20 or 24x36 is much better. I'd also recommend adjusting how you are sitting. Sit upright and Try to have your paper at an angle if you can. Also, try holding the pencil or charcoal further back (middle of the pencil or a bit further) Downstrokes are the easiest to accomplish first so start by just using your shoulder for those. As you get more used to it, experiment with other movements and also incorporate elbow and wrist movements for some of the more specific details and flourishes you may want. don't forget to rotate the page if you are struggling. Eventually switching between all three will be totally seamless and you'll have much more control over how you draw
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I've tried a few things: I've sat on pillows or blankets to give me more height/freedom to move my arm. I've gotten one of those tilted board-canvas things to put my sketchbook on. They both helped me get a more comfortable motion to move my shoulder with. It could be that you just need practice with it. It might help to try to envision "pushing" the pen with just your shoulder instead of focusing on using your shoulder. I find that my arm naturally locks up and makes fluid motions when I think of it that way.
| 1 | 8,845 | 6.5 | ||
h0jq2i
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftmpe8d
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ftopu4c
| 1,591,826,044 | 1,591,875,905 | 6 | 9 |
Maybe adjust how you’re sitting? Bring the table higher, incline the surface...I’m sure there’s a lot you can do but you’re not giving us a lot of detail about how you’re sitting. Also you don’t need to lock your wrist and elbow. It’s good to practice drawing with your shoulder, but eventually you’re going to be using all three at the same time.
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Try lowering the elevation level of your work ... it sounds like you have your work positioned too high. If so, your arm is already hyperextended so your arm can't pivot from the shoulder joint, thus your elbow has defaulted to the pivot. If you're drawing on a table or drafting table your shoulder isn't even a factor. An easel solves a lot of this.
| 0 | 49,861 | 1.5 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftopu4c
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fto5ep4
| 1,591,875,905 | 1,591,856,897 | 9 | 6 |
Try lowering the elevation level of your work ... it sounds like you have your work positioned too high. If so, your arm is already hyperextended so your arm can't pivot from the shoulder joint, thus your elbow has defaulted to the pivot. If you're drawing on a table or drafting table your shoulder isn't even a factor. An easel solves a lot of this.
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Along with the awesome advice on the post, I'd like to remind you that as a kid you must have written on a blackboard That usually requires use of your elbow, so maybe try to draw on that muscle memory.
| 1 | 19,008 | 1.5 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftmtyni
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ftopu4c
| 1,591,828,336 | 1,591,875,905 | 5 | 9 |
There will be slight movement in your elbow, it's necessary to prevent your hand from lifting off the page. How long have you been practicing?
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Try lowering the elevation level of your work ... it sounds like you have your work positioned too high. If so, your arm is already hyperextended so your arm can't pivot from the shoulder joint, thus your elbow has defaulted to the pivot. If you're drawing on a table or drafting table your shoulder isn't even a factor. An easel solves a lot of this.
| 0 | 47,569 | 1.8 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftmvzdt
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ftopu4c
| 1,591,829,382 | 1,591,875,905 | 5 | 9 |
Yeah, the idea isn’t to lock every other joint below your shoulder. When you’re told to draw from your shoulder, it means to use your shoulder as the primary joint. Think of it like throwing a baseball. Most of the power and direction comes from your shoulder but your elbow, wrist, and fingers help push things along and keep the motion straight.
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Try lowering the elevation level of your work ... it sounds like you have your work positioned too high. If so, your arm is already hyperextended so your arm can't pivot from the shoulder joint, thus your elbow has defaulted to the pivot. If you're drawing on a table or drafting table your shoulder isn't even a factor. An easel solves a lot of this.
| 0 | 46,523 | 1.8 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftn9cj6
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ftopu4c
| 1,591,836,496 | 1,591,875,905 | 5 | 9 |
Try taping paper to a wall and play with experimenting with different motion types. Make little rules ie. this drawing ill try with my arm fully extended. Think about movement and the way it effects your mark making. Now you may not get the exact "style" of drawing you're looking for but the exercise is to help you discover how posture effects your drawing. Hope this helps!
|
Try lowering the elevation level of your work ... it sounds like you have your work positioned too high. If so, your arm is already hyperextended so your arm can't pivot from the shoulder joint, thus your elbow has defaulted to the pivot. If you're drawing on a table or drafting table your shoulder isn't even a factor. An easel solves a lot of this.
| 0 | 39,409 | 1.8 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftopu4c
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ftn0bnh
| 1,591,875,905 | 1,591,831,673 | 9 | 3 |
Try lowering the elevation level of your work ... it sounds like you have your work positioned too high. If so, your arm is already hyperextended so your arm can't pivot from the shoulder joint, thus your elbow has defaulted to the pivot. If you're drawing on a table or drafting table your shoulder isn't even a factor. An easel solves a lot of this.
|
Yes I'm learning that chair height matters as well as if starting position of drawing a line is too close to or too far from my body. It all seems to matter. But still, some days it all seems to flow very smooth and some days I can't draw a straight smooth line if i had to.
| 1 | 44,232 | 3 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftn8z2o
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ftopu4c
| 1,591,836,293 | 1,591,875,905 | 2 | 9 |
I've tried a few things: I've sat on pillows or blankets to give me more height/freedom to move my arm. I've gotten one of those tilted board-canvas things to put my sketchbook on. They both helped me get a more comfortable motion to move my shoulder with. It could be that you just need practice with it. It might help to try to envision "pushing" the pen with just your shoulder instead of focusing on using your shoulder. I find that my arm naturally locks up and makes fluid motions when I think of it that way.
|
Try lowering the elevation level of your work ... it sounds like you have your work positioned too high. If so, your arm is already hyperextended so your arm can't pivot from the shoulder joint, thus your elbow has defaulted to the pivot. If you're drawing on a table or drafting table your shoulder isn't even a factor. An easel solves a lot of this.
| 0 | 39,612 | 4.5 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftn9xzn
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ftmpe8d
| 1,591,836,824 | 1,591,826,044 | 9 | 6 |
There's a video by Uncomfortable, it will feel hard. You don't use those muscles so they are underdeveloped. You can put your other hand on the shoulder to feel if you are using it. https://youtu.be/gAtmiQgW6As
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Maybe adjust how you’re sitting? Bring the table higher, incline the surface...I’m sure there’s a lot you can do but you’re not giving us a lot of detail about how you’re sitting. Also you don’t need to lock your wrist and elbow. It’s good to practice drawing with your shoulder, but eventually you’re going to be using all three at the same time.
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h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftmtyni
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ftn9xzn
| 1,591,828,336 | 1,591,836,824 | 5 | 9 |
There will be slight movement in your elbow, it's necessary to prevent your hand from lifting off the page. How long have you been practicing?
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There's a video by Uncomfortable, it will feel hard. You don't use those muscles so they are underdeveloped. You can put your other hand on the shoulder to feel if you are using it. https://youtu.be/gAtmiQgW6As
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h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftn9xzn
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ftmvzdt
| 1,591,836,824 | 1,591,829,382 | 9 | 5 |
There's a video by Uncomfortable, it will feel hard. You don't use those muscles so they are underdeveloped. You can put your other hand on the shoulder to feel if you are using it. https://youtu.be/gAtmiQgW6As
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Yeah, the idea isn’t to lock every other joint below your shoulder. When you’re told to draw from your shoulder, it means to use your shoulder as the primary joint. Think of it like throwing a baseball. Most of the power and direction comes from your shoulder but your elbow, wrist, and fingers help push things along and keep the motion straight.
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h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftn9cj6
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ftn9xzn
| 1,591,836,496 | 1,591,836,824 | 5 | 9 |
Try taping paper to a wall and play with experimenting with different motion types. Make little rules ie. this drawing ill try with my arm fully extended. Think about movement and the way it effects your mark making. Now you may not get the exact "style" of drawing you're looking for but the exercise is to help you discover how posture effects your drawing. Hope this helps!
|
There's a video by Uncomfortable, it will feel hard. You don't use those muscles so they are underdeveloped. You can put your other hand on the shoulder to feel if you are using it. https://youtu.be/gAtmiQgW6As
| 0 | 328 | 1.8 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftn0bnh
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ftn9xzn
| 1,591,831,673 | 1,591,836,824 | 3 | 9 |
Yes I'm learning that chair height matters as well as if starting position of drawing a line is too close to or too far from my body. It all seems to matter. But still, some days it all seems to flow very smooth and some days I can't draw a straight smooth line if i had to.
|
There's a video by Uncomfortable, it will feel hard. You don't use those muscles so they are underdeveloped. You can put your other hand on the shoulder to feel if you are using it. https://youtu.be/gAtmiQgW6As
| 0 | 5,151 | 3 | ||
h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftn8z2o
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ftn9xzn
| 1,591,836,293 | 1,591,836,824 | 2 | 9 |
I've tried a few things: I've sat on pillows or blankets to give me more height/freedom to move my arm. I've gotten one of those tilted board-canvas things to put my sketchbook on. They both helped me get a more comfortable motion to move my shoulder with. It could be that you just need practice with it. It might help to try to envision "pushing" the pen with just your shoulder instead of focusing on using your shoulder. I find that my arm naturally locks up and makes fluid motions when I think of it that way.
|
There's a video by Uncomfortable, it will feel hard. You don't use those muscles so they are underdeveloped. You can put your other hand on the shoulder to feel if you are using it. https://youtu.be/gAtmiQgW6As
| 0 | 531 | 4.5 | ||
h0jq2i
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.99 |
Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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fto5ep4
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ftmtyni
| 1,591,856,897 | 1,591,828,336 | 6 | 5 |
Along with the awesome advice on the post, I'd like to remind you that as a kid you must have written on a blackboard That usually requires use of your elbow, so maybe try to draw on that muscle memory.
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There will be slight movement in your elbow, it's necessary to prevent your hand from lifting off the page. How long have you been practicing?
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Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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Yeah, the idea isn’t to lock every other joint below your shoulder. When you’re told to draw from your shoulder, it means to use your shoulder as the primary joint. Think of it like throwing a baseball. Most of the power and direction comes from your shoulder but your elbow, wrist, and fingers help push things along and keep the motion straight.
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Along with the awesome advice on the post, I'd like to remind you that as a kid you must have written on a blackboard That usually requires use of your elbow, so maybe try to draw on that muscle memory.
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Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftn9cj6
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Along with the awesome advice on the post, I'd like to remind you that as a kid you must have written on a blackboard That usually requires use of your elbow, so maybe try to draw on that muscle memory.
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Try taping paper to a wall and play with experimenting with different motion types. Make little rules ie. this drawing ill try with my arm fully extended. Think about movement and the way it effects your mark making. Now you may not get the exact "style" of drawing you're looking for but the exercise is to help you discover how posture effects your drawing. Hope this helps!
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Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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fto5ep4
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Yes I'm learning that chair height matters as well as if starting position of drawing a line is too close to or too far from my body. It all seems to matter. But still, some days it all seems to flow very smooth and some days I can't draw a straight smooth line if i had to.
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Along with the awesome advice on the post, I'd like to remind you that as a kid you must have written on a blackboard That usually requires use of your elbow, so maybe try to draw on that muscle memory.
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h0jq2i
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Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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fto5ep4
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ftn8z2o
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Along with the awesome advice on the post, I'd like to remind you that as a kid you must have written on a blackboard That usually requires use of your elbow, so maybe try to draw on that muscle memory.
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I've tried a few things: I've sat on pillows or blankets to give me more height/freedom to move my arm. I've gotten one of those tilted board-canvas things to put my sketchbook on. They both helped me get a more comfortable motion to move my shoulder with. It could be that you just need practice with it. It might help to try to envision "pushing" the pen with just your shoulder instead of focusing on using your shoulder. I find that my arm naturally locks up and makes fluid motions when I think of it that way.
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h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
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Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftn9cj6
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ftn0bnh
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Try taping paper to a wall and play with experimenting with different motion types. Make little rules ie. this drawing ill try with my arm fully extended. Think about movement and the way it effects your mark making. Now you may not get the exact "style" of drawing you're looking for but the exercise is to help you discover how posture effects your drawing. Hope this helps!
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Yes I'm learning that chair height matters as well as if starting position of drawing a line is too close to or too far from my body. It all seems to matter. But still, some days it all seems to flow very smooth and some days I can't draw a straight smooth line if i had to.
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h0jq2i
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artfundamentals_train
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Struggling with moving shoulder, let alone drawing with it. So I'm not sure what exactly my issue is but I am super struggling even understanding what it means to draw with my shoulder. I find I've got a much bigger range of motion when drawing from my elbow. When I lock my elbow and wrist, my shoulder just doesn't want to play. It's really hard to describe. So, I would LIKE to draw kind of diagonally from bottom left to top right - that's what feels most natural to me. My shoulder range gives me from bottom left to bottom right in an arcing motion. Other than that I can't really move my shoulder in any other direction. If I try to either my elbow or chest comes into play. I'm sure I'm being a complete moron about this but I fully cannot figure it out. Any advise would be appreciated!
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ftn9cj6
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ftn8z2o
| 1,591,836,496 | 1,591,836,293 | 5 | 2 |
Try taping paper to a wall and play with experimenting with different motion types. Make little rules ie. this drawing ill try with my arm fully extended. Think about movement and the way it effects your mark making. Now you may not get the exact "style" of drawing you're looking for but the exercise is to help you discover how posture effects your drawing. Hope this helps!
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I've tried a few things: I've sat on pillows or blankets to give me more height/freedom to move my arm. I've gotten one of those tilted board-canvas things to put my sketchbook on. They both helped me get a more comfortable motion to move my shoulder with. It could be that you just need practice with it. It might help to try to envision "pushing" the pen with just your shoulder instead of focusing on using your shoulder. I find that my arm naturally locks up and makes fluid motions when I think of it that way.
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Struggling with the 50% Rule Hello, I have started doing drawabox a few days ago, I have no experience what so ever in drawing, even at school I didn't draw much, I used to doodle usually and maybe tried copying two or three drawing but that was it. So, I did read the website's section the 50% rule more than once and watched the video and it does make perfect sense to me, it also support my conviction that we should retrieve the fun of the process rather than focusing only on the result, however, although I'm totally convinced of the importance of drawing for fun I just couldn't do it, I spent half an hour doing the exercise (which I actually enjoyed quite a bit but that's beside the point) and then I decided i'll start drawing for fun for half an hour, I guess I was supposed to be more excited for this but that didn't happen, I just felt bored and lost not knowing what to draw, I tried to draw the things I wanted to draw most without worrying about the result but I wasn't able to enjoy the process since I knew how bad it is, I felt like if i was drawing a little bit more better I might enjoy it more, I just kept drawing half halfheartedly, not finishing them and just waiting for time to pass.. This made me somehow lose my motivation, I felt like maybe drawing isn't for me if i can't enjoy doing it without any guideline or while focusing only on the result, so I'm just wondering about how should I approach this, if it is okay to just doodle random stuff without trying to draw anything real. I'd like to know what did you guys used to draw for fun if you have started this course while being absolute beginners. Thank you in advance and sorry for the long post.
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> tried copying two or three drawing Did you enjoy making those copy drawings? If so then do a lot more of them. Copying is a lot easier than drawing from your imagination. You may not yet even have the kind of visual knowledge to draw stuff from your imagination. So borrow someone else's imagination by copying drawings they do. You will be drawing all the same. Just be careful not to claim those drawings as yours. Give credit to the original artist if sharing those drawings online (or just don't share them).
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> I felt like maybe drawing isn't for me if i can't enjoy doing it without any guideline or while focusing only on the result The reason I stress the importance of doing this 50% of the time is because most people have trouble with it. By the time you decide to go looking for a course to teach you how to improve your drawing skills, you tend to have lost the ability to have fun "just drawing" like a child. That's why we stress this, why it's important to make it part of your routine. It won't be easy at first - for many people, it will be incredibly frustrating. But it'll get easier. The first thing to do is think about what you'd draw if you were the most skillful artist in the world. Think about why it is you're learning to draw, what kinds of projects you'd like to work on. You will naturally want to reject ideas as soon as they come in your mind (that's why we usually feel like "we don't know what to draw", we're always caught up thinking that we're not ready to try that). If however you're not able to come up with anything on your own, you can try checking out the #drawing-prompts channel on our discord chat server. In the pinned messages of that channel, you'll find loads of drawing prompts. Pick one at random (don't fuss over picking one you think you'll have a better chance of doing well), and give it a shot.
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I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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Why are you drawing? If you are doing lesson one it's either to strengthen fundamentals or because you are newer right? Motivation gets people started and dedication keeps them going. That being said - learning something new or putting the nose to the grindstone and doing the work is hard. Your brain will fight it since it's not in your comfort zone. No one says you have to draw 250 boxes or whatever to be a good artist. Spend some time with a focused effort on learning, and spend other times doing something fun. Being consistent is more important since it keeps the pen and the art flowing. Can't ever get better of you stop. And if doing the box challenge makes you stop don't do it. Do what will keep you going. Your gonna end up drawing 250 boxes and more eventually anyways. I completed mine by drawing a bunch of rooms in 1 and 2 point perspective since I felt like I had a finished product when I was done. It was more fun that way for me.
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I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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This is called The Resistance, and if you don't figure out how to deal with it, the end result is you'll just end up 70 having never finished the boxes... 🤷♂ There is a book that is free on multiple platforms called 'The War of Art'. You can just search its name and 'pdf' to find it. It changed my perspective and brought me from maybe 2 or 3 pieces in a whole year to over 300. I just finished 15 last week... Learn about the resistance. Learn how to get past it. And Work.
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I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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There is no motivation make drawing a habit. A simple way to make drawing a habit is draw at the same time everyday for 2 minutes at least, most important thing is to show up.
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I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irp77pf
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Do you do the 50% 50% rule?
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I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irqmldf
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Don’t forget 50/50 rule, it’s really important. Don’t rush it’s not a race it’s a journey. If you get tired of boxes than take a break - try next lesson or draw for yourself then get back to the boxes
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I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irpankw
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irp77pf
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I can't stress this enough, DON'T DO IT ALONE DUMMY! No one would go to high school longer than 2 weeks if they went alone. Like it's the soft social pressure from parents, friends, teachers, SOCIETY to go. So once you're out of the social construct of school you need to put yourself in situations to create that soft social pressure. So if you want to start a project, make a social circle. If you want to start going to the gym more, sign up for a group fitness class. If you want to start eating better, hire a nutritionist or invite friends over on Sundays and you can cook/meal prep together. If you want to get better at studying, form or join a study group. Too many people try to do it alone because they feel like that's how successful people do it, or how they should. No, that's dumb. Don't be an idiot. Get help when you can. Which is always.
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I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irp77pf
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you will never finish if you rely on motivation. discipline will lead you to motivation. having schedule, or routine will get you passed that hump. consuming what encouraged you to start DaB could help.
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I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irp77pf
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Boxes is part 1 lesson 1, so I assume you mean the 250 box challenge? Skip the 250 box challenge. You can’t draw 250 boxes without doing anything else, your brain will rebel. Move on to part 2, constructional drawing. If you really want to do the boxes, do ten at a time in between drawing for fun and drawing with construction.
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I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irp77pf
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routine. you need a set time to work on it. allocate maybe an hour or two at a time but don't rush.
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I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irsb972
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irp77pf
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You doing the 50% percent rule honestly?
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xzzxtq
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I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irp77pf
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irt4861
| 1,665,359,312 | 1,665,435,270 | 1 | 6 |
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I never learned the art fundamentals lol. I just draw with a mouse using vector tools and hope for the best. My best advice is if you're not happy doing something, skip it and come back later. Don't keep forcing yourself to try something because others have deemed it essential
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xzzxtq
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artfundamentals_train
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I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irpf51t
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irp77pf
| 1,665,363,181 | 1,665,359,312 | 3 | 1 |
Whats your reason to even attempt the course? Do you want to become a professional? Do you want to get better for fun? Remember the reason why you even decided to do drawabox and use that as a general motivation. Then just set a goal thats easy to follow. Ten minutes per day doesnt seem hard no? Once you start getting comfortable then just increase the time. You doing drawabox for 3 years means your discipline is just weak. Build it up slowly and take your time. It took me about a year to do drawabox and with enough focus and dedication you can too
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xzzxtq
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artfundamentals_train
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I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irp77pf
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irpetgx
| 1,665,359,312 | 1,665,363,028 | 1 | 3 |
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Perseverance and persistence is the name of the game. Set a goal of a certain amount of boxes per day. Don't waver. Just make sure you do it. You need to just make a daily goal on the boxes and then achieve it. Not going to lie it is painful, but you feel a sense of accomplishment at the end.
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xzzxtq
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.95 |
I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irqt7r8
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irr1so6
| 1,665,396,817 | 1,665,403,156 | 16 | 25 |
This is called The Resistance, and if you don't figure out how to deal with it, the end result is you'll just end up 70 having never finished the boxes... 🤷♂ There is a book that is free on multiple platforms called 'The War of Art'. You can just search its name and 'pdf' to find it. It changed my perspective and brought me from maybe 2 or 3 pieces in a whole year to over 300. I just finished 15 last week... Learn about the resistance. Learn how to get past it. And Work.
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Why are you drawing? If you are doing lesson one it's either to strengthen fundamentals or because you are newer right? Motivation gets people started and dedication keeps them going. That being said - learning something new or putting the nose to the grindstone and doing the work is hard. Your brain will fight it since it's not in your comfort zone. No one says you have to draw 250 boxes or whatever to be a good artist. Spend some time with a focused effort on learning, and spend other times doing something fun. Being consistent is more important since it keeps the pen and the art flowing. Can't ever get better of you stop. And if doing the box challenge makes you stop don't do it. Do what will keep you going. Your gonna end up drawing 250 boxes and more eventually anyways. I completed mine by drawing a bunch of rooms in 1 and 2 point perspective since I felt like I had a finished product when I was done. It was more fun that way for me.
| 0 | 6,339 | 1.5625 | ||
xzzxtq
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.95 |
I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irr1idc
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irr1so6
| 1,665,402,974 | 1,665,403,156 | 16 | 25 |
There is no motivation make drawing a habit. A simple way to make drawing a habit is draw at the same time everyday for 2 minutes at least, most important thing is to show up.
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Why are you drawing? If you are doing lesson one it's either to strengthen fundamentals or because you are newer right? Motivation gets people started and dedication keeps them going. That being said - learning something new or putting the nose to the grindstone and doing the work is hard. Your brain will fight it since it's not in your comfort zone. No one says you have to draw 250 boxes or whatever to be a good artist. Spend some time with a focused effort on learning, and spend other times doing something fun. Being consistent is more important since it keeps the pen and the art flowing. Can't ever get better of you stop. And if doing the box challenge makes you stop don't do it. Do what will keep you going. Your gonna end up drawing 250 boxes and more eventually anyways. I completed mine by drawing a bunch of rooms in 1 and 2 point perspective since I felt like I had a finished product when I was done. It was more fun that way for me.
| 0 | 182 | 1.5625 | ||
xzzxtq
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.95 |
I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irr1so6
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irpx0pv
| 1,665,403,156 | 1,665,371,970 | 25 | 13 |
Why are you drawing? If you are doing lesson one it's either to strengthen fundamentals or because you are newer right? Motivation gets people started and dedication keeps them going. That being said - learning something new or putting the nose to the grindstone and doing the work is hard. Your brain will fight it since it's not in your comfort zone. No one says you have to draw 250 boxes or whatever to be a good artist. Spend some time with a focused effort on learning, and spend other times doing something fun. Being consistent is more important since it keeps the pen and the art flowing. Can't ever get better of you stop. And if doing the box challenge makes you stop don't do it. Do what will keep you going. Your gonna end up drawing 250 boxes and more eventually anyways. I completed mine by drawing a bunch of rooms in 1 and 2 point perspective since I felt like I had a finished product when I was done. It was more fun that way for me.
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Do you do the 50% 50% rule?
| 1 | 31,186 | 1.923077 | ||
xzzxtq
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.95 |
I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irqmldf
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irr1so6
| 1,665,390,781 | 1,665,403,156 | 12 | 25 |
Don’t forget 50/50 rule, it’s really important. Don’t rush it’s not a race it’s a journey. If you get tired of boxes than take a break - try next lesson or draw for yourself then get back to the boxes
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Why are you drawing? If you are doing lesson one it's either to strengthen fundamentals or because you are newer right? Motivation gets people started and dedication keeps them going. That being said - learning something new or putting the nose to the grindstone and doing the work is hard. Your brain will fight it since it's not in your comfort zone. No one says you have to draw 250 boxes or whatever to be a good artist. Spend some time with a focused effort on learning, and spend other times doing something fun. Being consistent is more important since it keeps the pen and the art flowing. Can't ever get better of you stop. And if doing the box challenge makes you stop don't do it. Do what will keep you going. Your gonna end up drawing 250 boxes and more eventually anyways. I completed mine by drawing a bunch of rooms in 1 and 2 point perspective since I felt like I had a finished product when I was done. It was more fun that way for me.
| 0 | 12,375 | 2.083333 | ||
xzzxtq
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.95 |
I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irpankw
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irr1so6
| 1,665,361,014 | 1,665,403,156 | 11 | 25 |
I can't stress this enough, DON'T DO IT ALONE DUMMY! No one would go to high school longer than 2 weeks if they went alone. Like it's the soft social pressure from parents, friends, teachers, SOCIETY to go. So once you're out of the social construct of school you need to put yourself in situations to create that soft social pressure. So if you want to start a project, make a social circle. If you want to start going to the gym more, sign up for a group fitness class. If you want to start eating better, hire a nutritionist or invite friends over on Sundays and you can cook/meal prep together. If you want to get better at studying, form or join a study group. Too many people try to do it alone because they feel like that's how successful people do it, or how they should. No, that's dumb. Don't be an idiot. Get help when you can. Which is always.
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Why are you drawing? If you are doing lesson one it's either to strengthen fundamentals or because you are newer right? Motivation gets people started and dedication keeps them going. That being said - learning something new or putting the nose to the grindstone and doing the work is hard. Your brain will fight it since it's not in your comfort zone. No one says you have to draw 250 boxes or whatever to be a good artist. Spend some time with a focused effort on learning, and spend other times doing something fun. Being consistent is more important since it keeps the pen and the art flowing. Can't ever get better of you stop. And if doing the box challenge makes you stop don't do it. Do what will keep you going. Your gonna end up drawing 250 boxes and more eventually anyways. I completed mine by drawing a bunch of rooms in 1 and 2 point perspective since I felt like I had a finished product when I was done. It was more fun that way for me.
| 0 | 42,142 | 2.272727 | ||
xzzxtq
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.95 |
I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irpc5d6
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irr1so6
| 1,665,361,750 | 1,665,403,156 | 9 | 25 |
you will never finish if you rely on motivation. discipline will lead you to motivation. having schedule, or routine will get you passed that hump. consuming what encouraged you to start DaB could help.
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Why are you drawing? If you are doing lesson one it's either to strengthen fundamentals or because you are newer right? Motivation gets people started and dedication keeps them going. That being said - learning something new or putting the nose to the grindstone and doing the work is hard. Your brain will fight it since it's not in your comfort zone. No one says you have to draw 250 boxes or whatever to be a good artist. Spend some time with a focused effort on learning, and spend other times doing something fun. Being consistent is more important since it keeps the pen and the art flowing. Can't ever get better of you stop. And if doing the box challenge makes you stop don't do it. Do what will keep you going. Your gonna end up drawing 250 boxes and more eventually anyways. I completed mine by drawing a bunch of rooms in 1 and 2 point perspective since I felt like I had a finished product when I was done. It was more fun that way for me.
| 0 | 41,406 | 2.777778 | ||
xzzxtq
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.95 |
I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irr1so6
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irqgpmk
| 1,665,403,156 | 1,665,385,513 | 25 | 9 |
Why are you drawing? If you are doing lesson one it's either to strengthen fundamentals or because you are newer right? Motivation gets people started and dedication keeps them going. That being said - learning something new or putting the nose to the grindstone and doing the work is hard. Your brain will fight it since it's not in your comfort zone. No one says you have to draw 250 boxes or whatever to be a good artist. Spend some time with a focused effort on learning, and spend other times doing something fun. Being consistent is more important since it keeps the pen and the art flowing. Can't ever get better of you stop. And if doing the box challenge makes you stop don't do it. Do what will keep you going. Your gonna end up drawing 250 boxes and more eventually anyways. I completed mine by drawing a bunch of rooms in 1 and 2 point perspective since I felt like I had a finished product when I was done. It was more fun that way for me.
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Boxes is part 1 lesson 1, so I assume you mean the 250 box challenge? Skip the 250 box challenge. You can’t draw 250 boxes without doing anything else, your brain will rebel. Move on to part 2, constructional drawing. If you really want to do the boxes, do ten at a time in between drawing for fun and drawing with construction.
| 1 | 17,643 | 2.777778 | ||
xzzxtq
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.95 |
I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irpmxd6
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irr1so6
| 1,665,366,932 | 1,665,403,156 | 9 | 25 |
routine. you need a set time to work on it. allocate maybe an hour or two at a time but don't rush.
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Why are you drawing? If you are doing lesson one it's either to strengthen fundamentals or because you are newer right? Motivation gets people started and dedication keeps them going. That being said - learning something new or putting the nose to the grindstone and doing the work is hard. Your brain will fight it since it's not in your comfort zone. No one says you have to draw 250 boxes or whatever to be a good artist. Spend some time with a focused effort on learning, and spend other times doing something fun. Being consistent is more important since it keeps the pen and the art flowing. Can't ever get better of you stop. And if doing the box challenge makes you stop don't do it. Do what will keep you going. Your gonna end up drawing 250 boxes and more eventually anyways. I completed mine by drawing a bunch of rooms in 1 and 2 point perspective since I felt like I had a finished product when I was done. It was more fun that way for me.
| 0 | 36,224 | 2.777778 | ||
xzzxtq
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artfundamentals_train
| 0.95 |
I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irpf51t
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irr1so6
| 1,665,363,181 | 1,665,403,156 | 3 | 25 |
Whats your reason to even attempt the course? Do you want to become a professional? Do you want to get better for fun? Remember the reason why you even decided to do drawabox and use that as a general motivation. Then just set a goal thats easy to follow. Ten minutes per day doesnt seem hard no? Once you start getting comfortable then just increase the time. You doing drawabox for 3 years means your discipline is just weak. Build it up slowly and take your time. It took me about a year to do drawabox and with enough focus and dedication you can too
|
Why are you drawing? If you are doing lesson one it's either to strengthen fundamentals or because you are newer right? Motivation gets people started and dedication keeps them going. That being said - learning something new or putting the nose to the grindstone and doing the work is hard. Your brain will fight it since it's not in your comfort zone. No one says you have to draw 250 boxes or whatever to be a good artist. Spend some time with a focused effort on learning, and spend other times doing something fun. Being consistent is more important since it keeps the pen and the art flowing. Can't ever get better of you stop. And if doing the box challenge makes you stop don't do it. Do what will keep you going. Your gonna end up drawing 250 boxes and more eventually anyways. I completed mine by drawing a bunch of rooms in 1 and 2 point perspective since I felt like I had a finished product when I was done. It was more fun that way for me.
| 0 | 39,975 | 8.333333 | ||
xzzxtq
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.95 |
I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irr1so6
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irpetgx
| 1,665,403,156 | 1,665,363,028 | 25 | 3 |
Why are you drawing? If you are doing lesson one it's either to strengthen fundamentals or because you are newer right? Motivation gets people started and dedication keeps them going. That being said - learning something new or putting the nose to the grindstone and doing the work is hard. Your brain will fight it since it's not in your comfort zone. No one says you have to draw 250 boxes or whatever to be a good artist. Spend some time with a focused effort on learning, and spend other times doing something fun. Being consistent is more important since it keeps the pen and the art flowing. Can't ever get better of you stop. And if doing the box challenge makes you stop don't do it. Do what will keep you going. Your gonna end up drawing 250 boxes and more eventually anyways. I completed mine by drawing a bunch of rooms in 1 and 2 point perspective since I felt like I had a finished product when I was done. It was more fun that way for me.
|
Perseverance and persistence is the name of the game. Set a goal of a certain amount of boxes per day. Don't waver. Just make sure you do it. You need to just make a daily goal on the boxes and then achieve it. Not going to lie it is painful, but you feel a sense of accomplishment at the end.
| 1 | 40,128 | 8.333333 | ||
xzzxtq
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.95 |
I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irpsem4
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irr1so6
| 1,665,369,593 | 1,665,403,156 | -21 | 25 |
THATS WHAT SHE SAIDDDDD
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Why are you drawing? If you are doing lesson one it's either to strengthen fundamentals or because you are newer right? Motivation gets people started and dedication keeps them going. That being said - learning something new or putting the nose to the grindstone and doing the work is hard. Your brain will fight it since it's not in your comfort zone. No one says you have to draw 250 boxes or whatever to be a good artist. Spend some time with a focused effort on learning, and spend other times doing something fun. Being consistent is more important since it keeps the pen and the art flowing. Can't ever get better of you stop. And if doing the box challenge makes you stop don't do it. Do what will keep you going. Your gonna end up drawing 250 boxes and more eventually anyways. I completed mine by drawing a bunch of rooms in 1 and 2 point perspective since I felt like I had a finished product when I was done. It was more fun that way for me.
| 0 | 33,563 | -1.190476 | ||
xzzxtq
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.95 |
I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irqt7r8
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irpx0pv
| 1,665,396,817 | 1,665,371,970 | 16 | 13 |
This is called The Resistance, and if you don't figure out how to deal with it, the end result is you'll just end up 70 having never finished the boxes... 🤷♂ There is a book that is free on multiple platforms called 'The War of Art'. You can just search its name and 'pdf' to find it. It changed my perspective and brought me from maybe 2 or 3 pieces in a whole year to over 300. I just finished 15 last week... Learn about the resistance. Learn how to get past it. And Work.
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Do you do the 50% 50% rule?
| 1 | 24,847 | 1.230769 | ||
xzzxtq
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.95 |
I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irqmldf
|
irqt7r8
| 1,665,390,781 | 1,665,396,817 | 12 | 16 |
Don’t forget 50/50 rule, it’s really important. Don’t rush it’s not a race it’s a journey. If you get tired of boxes than take a break - try next lesson or draw for yourself then get back to the boxes
|
This is called The Resistance, and if you don't figure out how to deal with it, the end result is you'll just end up 70 having never finished the boxes... 🤷♂ There is a book that is free on multiple platforms called 'The War of Art'. You can just search its name and 'pdf' to find it. It changed my perspective and brought me from maybe 2 or 3 pieces in a whole year to over 300. I just finished 15 last week... Learn about the resistance. Learn how to get past it. And Work.
| 0 | 6,036 | 1.333333 | ||
xzzxtq
|
artfundamentals_train
| 0.95 |
I want to finish. So I have been trying draw a box for like 3 years now. It seems like every time I get to boxes i lose all steam. Anything that will help with motivation.
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irqt7r8
|
irpankw
| 1,665,396,817 | 1,665,361,014 | 16 | 11 |
This is called The Resistance, and if you don't figure out how to deal with it, the end result is you'll just end up 70 having never finished the boxes... 🤷♂ There is a book that is free on multiple platforms called 'The War of Art'. You can just search its name and 'pdf' to find it. It changed my perspective and brought me from maybe 2 or 3 pieces in a whole year to over 300. I just finished 15 last week... Learn about the resistance. Learn how to get past it. And Work.
|
I can't stress this enough, DON'T DO IT ALONE DUMMY! No one would go to high school longer than 2 weeks if they went alone. Like it's the soft social pressure from parents, friends, teachers, SOCIETY to go. So once you're out of the social construct of school you need to put yourself in situations to create that soft social pressure. So if you want to start a project, make a social circle. If you want to start going to the gym more, sign up for a group fitness class. If you want to start eating better, hire a nutritionist or invite friends over on Sundays and you can cook/meal prep together. If you want to get better at studying, form or join a study group. Too many people try to do it alone because they feel like that's how successful people do it, or how they should. No, that's dumb. Don't be an idiot. Get help when you can. Which is always.
| 1 | 35,803 | 1.454545 |
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