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All students should be required to perform community service.
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Effective
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22dc8aa55e99
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146818D2FAF1
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As the human race we must stand together united. If not help the homeless help the community littering problem. If not help the problem help the younger children. If we help the younger kids they may go on in life understanding to help you neighbor.
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Concluding Statement
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0bb79533eb8f
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I believe that the Electorial college should stay because without it the U.S. would get out of control with voting.
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Position
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Adequate
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d62d086836bb
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146ED0274FC7
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We need the Electorial college for so many reasons. Some of the reasons are so that we can vote and keep all of congress and our President in order.
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Claim
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Ineffective
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2af223af0ca4
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146ED0274FC7
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We need this mainly for voting, sometimes I can admit that not everything this Electorial College does I agree with. But for the U.S. reasons for staying as one we need this more then ever so that we can vote and so that we can have president and all our different congress people too.
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Evidence
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Some things that bring conflict to this whole process is that some peoples votes wont have effect in the voting for who becomes president next or not.
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Counterclaim
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Adequate
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146ED0274FC7
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All votes should count, because if they know that why should we even vote if some peoples don't count. It is like we want that president who ever it is at that time to win and no votes even matter. This part is disappointing in the last paragraph of the Article.
It says "...for example, or republicans in California. Knowing their vote will not have effect..." Going back to what I said up in my second Paragraph, everyone needs to have their vote count. Everyone deserves a chance to say who they want to runa certain part in the U.S. should and should'nt be. Hello? Remember freedom of Speech whatever happened to that.
If Congress keeps this up people can get mad and riot about that or do bad things to harm people or congress. We need everyones vote to count no mater what. We need everyone to have a choice or say in there votes because they are voting for that person because they think that they are best to run the country or a certain roll in congress. So it may seem really crazy to think we need this but we really do so that congress doesnt fall and then conflicts come. We need this to have everything in congress and the people of the U.S. to run corectly.
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Evidence
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Adequate
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8f21155a2832
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148CA62EF887
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Americans should change election by popular vote for the president of the United State
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Position
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Adequate
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6a28bcdff3d6
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148CA62EF887
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The Electoral College it's not a good thing that is helping the citizens to express thier own thoughts in political
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Claim
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Adequate
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1f2a1ff92ccd
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148CA62EF887
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In Electoral College it's not really voting for the president it's for a slate of electors that turns elect the president. This shows that we the "People" that have the right to vote who we believe to be the leader for United States we are not really choosing him.
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Evidence
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Adequate
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148CA62EF887
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Additional, " The Indefensible Electoral College: Why even the best-laid defense of the system are wrong" by Bradford Plumer shows "
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Evidence
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Adequate
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148CA62EF887
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the Electoral College is unfair, outdated, and irrational"
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Claim
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Adequate
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This can explain the Electoral College is "unfair to voters because the winner take all system in each sate" that means candidates can't spend time in each state getting their chance to win thier vote from the state for the next four years
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Evidence
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Adequate
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However, electoral college "avoids the problem of elections in which no candiate receives a majority of the votes cast" shown in " In defense of the Electoral College:Five reasons to keep our despised method of choosing the preseident" by Richars A. Posner. This can help the candiates to not be a tied so the Electoral College reduced and thiers a clear winner.
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Counterclaim
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Adequate
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148CA62EF887
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What if their was a tied would citizens like a machine take thier decision on who's going to be the leader of the United States ? I don't think so becasue a machine doesn't have a right to vote.
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Ineffective
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148CA62EF887
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In therefore, in 2000 Al Gore lost the presidency but won the popular vote. "Over 60 percenet of voters would prefer a direct election ... this year voters can expect the popular vote win could again lose the presidency" explain Plumer. This wasn't the voters decision was the Electoral College
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Evidence
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Adequate
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we should't have something that doesn't express our right of speech in political.
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Claim
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Adequate
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a67e3fbbea9a
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148CA62EF887
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However, the Electoral Collge "process consists of the slection of the electors, they vote for President and Vice President" this shows that the citizens can vote to be the most faithful President to be the leader on this opportunity land. To end, we shouldn't keep something that it's not really showing the voice of each citizens on this wonderful world we have as Ameica.
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Evidence
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Ineffective
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148CA62EF887
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To conclude, we should change election by popular vote for the president of the United States.
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Concluding Statement
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Adequate
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148CA62EF887
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If we have a tie in the elctoral vote, "the election would be thrown to the House of Representatives, where state delegations vote on the president " this explain we the citizens didn't chose the president
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Evidence
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Adequate
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ea1802a1b40a
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14C15C12DA46
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The Election System should be changed to popular vote. The Electoral College is unfair and irratinol. It should be cancelled, and be based upon popular vote with numbers that make since.
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Position
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Effective
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Many votes have been barely won because the numbers are so close and high
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Claim
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Ineffective
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14C15C12DA46
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The Electoral College Isn't an amount of how many people voted for a president, its for an elector. And you dont always pick your elector, it could get confused and a wrong elector could get picked
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Claim
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Adequate
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Many states do not have a fair chance to vote
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Claim
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Adequate
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14C15C12DA46
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And one representitive can count as too many votes compared to their own value. Sates that didnt have the chance to see the canidates were most likely ignored wich dosent help because even if the people guessed a vote the electors would give out a large number of votes randomly to a canidate. Some staes didnt even get so see an ad for the canidates once.
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Evidence
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Adequate
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"A single representitive from whyoming representing five hundred thousand representitives would have as much to say as fifty five representitives from California, who represnt thirty five million voters." " During the 2000 campaign seventeen states didnt get to see the canidates at all,Including rhode island and south carolinia, and voters in 25 of the largest media markets didnt get to see a single campaign ad."
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Evidence
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Adequate
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b81f5d2d1506
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14C15C12DA46
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These qoutes from bradford plumber, explain that half of the peoples votes were going to wrong canidates as the pepole were completley confused about who they were even voting for.
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Claim
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Adequate
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3cbca4751da8
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14C15C12DA46
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It even seems a little unorganized, the Electoral College dosent make much since either based on the information given, but what you should really think about is how the Electoral College has hint of trying to cheat its way into electing a canidate.
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Evidence
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Adequate
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7b17047a5625
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14C15C12DA46
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The voters are left with an unfair outcome at almost every election because of the Electoral Collage. The votes can either be very close or the people could miss Ads or campaigns for canidates, leaving the people with nothing and confusion all over. Even if you knew what elector you voted for, you cant necessarily pick who it is your voting for and your vote could possibly get confued giving you a bad outcome. Most elections are just slid by and are just based on what ever the Electoral College thinks should happen. So please abolish the Electoral College its is irrational and is not neccessary, let the people really have a fair chance.
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Concluding Statement
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Effective
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cb55f16899d3
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14CB51AFA416
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There is no point in trying to make some of the kids at this school do comminute service. Some of the kids at this school hate there own comminute. Some of them really love it. Most of the kids at this school would love to do that. there are reasons to make us clean it.
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Lead
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Ineffective
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0c1ca7db686d
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14CB51AFA416
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I thank you should make us clean the comminute or help
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Position
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Adequate
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34a869bc46b8
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14CB51AFA416
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it needs it
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Claim
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Adequate
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4b7ae9e07f79
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14CB51AFA416
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And some kids at this school need a little responsibility.
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Claim
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Adequate
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2705f48c70a8
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14CB51AFA416
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A lot at the kids here don't know it but they are a little disrespectful. They will act like there better then everyone. I thank a little responsibility will do everyone here some good.
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Evidence
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Adequate
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ea3e0c519ff0
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14CB51AFA416
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If they don't have time out of school
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Counterclaim
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Adequate
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db5249829253
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14CB51AFA416
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maby they will have time in school
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Rebuttal
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Adequate
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8f03164968d4
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14CB51AFA416
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They can always make time to help the people around them.
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Evidence
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Adequate
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b2a684123d93
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14CB51AFA416
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If there really that selfish they should just go were other people like that act and they can live in a hated place.
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Claim
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Ineffective
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51ceff5f4e08
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14CB51AFA416
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There always will be some one like that in the world. They can act that way or jump on bored with everyone ales. Its not are fault they act like that.
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Evidence
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Ineffective
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7a29208cca21
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14CB51AFA416
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There should be no reason for every one to not do what they want because of a couple of snobs.
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Claim
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Adequate
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46efda1d1688
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14CB51AFA416
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I don't care if they thank its lame or they don't have time. If you have time to hang out with your friends then you have time to clean your comminute. Some kids are just to lazy.
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Evidence
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Adequate
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ca9431c0d9eb
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14CB51AFA416
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I thank that you should make it a grade.
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Claim
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Adequate
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3dbadc329c7d
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14CB51AFA416
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If they don't help there goes half of there grade.
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Evidence
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Adequate
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3c53d583c731
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14CB51AFA416
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If they cant like they have a family member in the hospital
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Counterclaim
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Adequate
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a25ec832ea86
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14CB51AFA416
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then that's understandable, but if its because you promised to hang with your friends that's no reason.
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Rebuttal
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Adequate
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c2b9c87935ba
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14CB51AFA416
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So i say go for it
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Concluding Statement
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Ineffective
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836e54e930cd
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14CC75D0E9D0
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I think you should at least have up too a D grade point average
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Claim
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Adequate
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717cc7ffa86c
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14CC75D0E9D0
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even during when i played wrestling, or football i had a D and one F but i got the F up but they still wouldn't let me practice or do anything because i still got that D. What I think the you as a principle should do is u should be at least passing five of your classes and should have at least a grade point average of 1.5. At my school in the SCHOOL_NAME is that policy and i am glad too have it but it didn't really matter to me because i was just falling! I was falling because of all my test and everything
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Evidence
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Adequate
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78222c97f901
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14CC75D0E9D0
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i think its just dumb if you have to have at least a B average
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Position
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Adequate
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4847b7eae140
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14CC75D0E9D0
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if that was our school i would at least write a banner saying we should have at least be passing five of our classes and we should be able to have a 1.5 grade point average that's when freedom of speech comes in! So o hope if the principle reads this he will agree with me! It should really be that hard if you listen to me? Don't you wont to see everyone out in the football field, or wrestling mat, or basketball court, or even if you are doing cross country? I would be glad everyone wants to be so active and would change it so you could make their dreams come true!! So i really hope you listen to me because its better if you got people that want to do sports but they cant because at least a B grade point average they could be at home doing drugs, something that will get them into trouble so if u change it too my idea they will be where you could see them, watch them so they don't get sent to detention hall (DH) or anything like that!
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Evidence
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Ineffective
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14D6911BF51D
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Please allow us to bring our cell phones to school.
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Position
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Ineffective
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c8c211d1352a
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14D6911BF51D
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they are not something for us to just play around with.
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Claim
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Adequate
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24b6bb07e27b
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14D6911BF51D
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Most of the students that go to this school have android powered phones, which means that most of the kids at this school can use their cell phones to help them with their work if they were allowed the privilege.
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Evidence
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Adequate
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36539f198aa3
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14D6911BF51D
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It states in policy 1," To allow students to bring phones to school and use them during lunch periods and other free times, as long as long as the phones are turned off during class time."
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Evidence
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Adequate
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d187809106f9
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14D6911BF51D
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Either way it goes we have to earn the privilege to use and bring our cell phones to school.
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Claim
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Adequate
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07912270c3e9
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14D6911BF51D
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But you have to understand that the young people now are at the age of technology which means that we are more comfortable with technology than our ancestors. You have some kids now that can make technology run around in circles, because that's what has been imbedded in to their brains and it just comes naturally
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Evidence
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Ineffective
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11c89932fe5f
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14D6911BF51D
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whichever way it goes we have to earn the privilege to use our phones in school so we will really try to earn this privilege
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Concluding Statement
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Adequate
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1515B6404750
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The Electoral College is a process that the founding fathers founded.
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Lead
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Adequate
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1515B6404750
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It is a compromise between the election of the president by a vote in congress and a polular vote of qualified citizens for the president, as stated in line 1.
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Position
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Adequate
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4857cdd52841
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1515B6404750
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The Electoral Cellege consists of 538 electors. To be elected president, 270 electoral votes is required. Each candidate running for president has their own group of electors. After the president is elected, your governor lists all the candidates and the names of their representive electors that ran for office.
The Certificate of Ascertainment declares the winning candidate from your state and shows which electors will be representing him or her at the December of the election year. All this information is sent to the Congress and National archieves as a part of official records.
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Evidence
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Ineffective
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e6fd097de63c
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1515B6404750
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Many times, people voting for a candidate get confused on who they are voting for, and often get confused.
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Claim
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Adequate
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bbf8ab059967
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1515B6404750
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This is do the the electors being chosen by anyone. when selecting them, there are no set rules.
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Evidence
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Ineffective
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1b3127cbed68
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1515B6404750
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Many people do not agree with the Electoral college vote, as it says on line 11. The smaller states think they should have just as many votes as the bigger states,
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Counterclaim
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Adequate
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1e0bd209bbaa
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1515B6404750
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but that defeats the whole purpose of the Electoral Votes.
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Rebuttal
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Adequate
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dcb14874fda6
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1515B6404750
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As it says on line 19, Electoral College requires a presidential candidate to have Trans-Regional appeal.
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Claim
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Adequate
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5062e3db5bff
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1515B6404750
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In other words, no region can single handedly put a president in office. There would need to be two thirds vote to win.
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Evidence
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Adequate
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ca02fa16498e
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1515B6404750
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Our founding fathers feared democracy, and the is why they came up with this process.
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Claim
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Adequate
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87bf09d86596
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1515B6404750
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If we used democracy, only 51% of voters would be needed. But with Electoral Votes, it keeps little states from having too much power and say.
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Evidence
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Ineffective
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a4b30015c73e
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1515B6404750
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People think that their vote does not matter, because they are voting for the state, not the country. Many people think like this, and choose not to vote, but really every vote matters. People also tend to not vote because tey do not agree with the Electoral College, but why not try to make a difference and put the man you want in office in control?
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Concluding Statement
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Adequate
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a07f4c757140
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1525562ED964
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I have read a lot about electoral college voting.
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Lead
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Adequate
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c9f40d3ccb83
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1525562ED964
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It seems like a legit way of finding the right president to be in charge of our country.
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Position
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Adequate
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4fb8a85a4adc
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1525562ED964
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But it also says that it's a compromise between the votes in Congress , and the votes of the popularity from the people. Is it a 50/50 compromise or does Congress have a stronger voting advantage over the people
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Evidence
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Adequate
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68e21f3a0e13
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1525562ED964
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I think that if your going to make Congress's choices , able to rule over the peoples , then there shouldn't be two sides of the voting.
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Claim
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Ineffective
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543a72ba112e
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1525562ED964
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Its not fair to us. It should be an equal advantage. There should be a way for that to happen if there already isn't one. Congress and society need to have an equal chance at electing the best man for the job.
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Evidence
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Adequate
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b9d712375ae0
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1525562ED964
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The electoral college is widely regarded as an anachronism
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Claim
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Adequate
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52440f4fe45f
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1525562ED964
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A non-democratic method of selecting a president ought to be overruled by declaring the candidate who receives the most popular votes , the winner. The cause of this is probably because Congress think theyare more wise and think this throught more then the people do. But I think differently. The citizens of the US , can be just as smart as Congress. Maybe even smarter or wiser.
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Evidence
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Adequate
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42ffb24d6f27
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1525562ED964
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I honestly think that you should leave a majority of it to the people because we can the research before we vote so we know which one would make the best choices for our country.
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Concluding Statement
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Adequate
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c2c69b72aac9
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159FA6D54C9B
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On May 24, 2001, NASA found something funny on Mars. The Viking 1 spacecraft was taking photos of possible landings sites for Viking 2. During that time, it spotted something that appeared to be an enormous head.
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Lead
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Adequate
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5e66654d82bd
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159FA6D54C9B
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It looked like an Egyptian pharoah, but turned out to be a regular, old mesa. It is still debated whether it was created by ancient Martian life, or whether is was just another regular landform on Mars.
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Position
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Effective
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6b02b3a82048
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159FA6D54C9B
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My fellow co-workers and I thought this was incredible. We had just found something that could have proven ancient life on Mars. It turned out that it wasn't. Later, we figured out that it was another regular Martian mesa
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Claim
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Effective
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0438b2875f4b
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159FA6D54C9B
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We were so excited when we thought we had just found proof of earlier life on Mars. We thought we had just made one of the greatest scientific discoveries there has ever been. We were joyful when we saw the Face. We thought we found proof of ancient alien life without even looking for it.
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Evidence
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Ineffective
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d69f1b55cada
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159FA6D54C9B
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Some people think that the mesa was actually created by aliens.
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Counterclaim
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Adequate
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940bae809760
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159FA6D54C9B
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In paragraph 5, it says that people thought NASA was just trying to hide all of the information. To be honest, we were hoping it was proof of alien life. We wanted to find proof of alien life. Why would we hide that information? That just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
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Evidence
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Adequate
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bdce516fbda9
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159FA6D54C9B
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The Face is just a landform.
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Claim
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Adequate
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264b9b3aaa48
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159FA6D54C9B
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In paragraph 2, it says that Marian mesas were common in the area the Face was in, Cydonia. Also, the shadows were the only things that made the Martian mesa look like an Egyptian Pharaoh. All that says is that a landform could be lucky and have some features that amde it resemble someone. Plus, how would Martians know what a Pharaoh looks like? They would be from Mars and not Earth. They most likely don't know anyone that even looks like an Egyptian Pharaoh.
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Evidence
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Adequate
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e82cc649aaa0
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159FA6D54C9B
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In conclusion, the face is just a natural landform. It may look like a head, but that is just because of the unusual shadows that the mesa has. If my co-workers and I thought this was actually proof of alien life, why would we hide it from you? What is the point in hiding that kind of information?
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Concluding Statement
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Effective
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b43ee8d4c854
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15A2119D5A49
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Unfortunately we may not always please everyones needs because that is impossible, but it is a smart decision to maintain the U.S. president election style.
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Position
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Adequate
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8cc03997bb79
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15A2119D5A49
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Electoral College is not as time consuming as a popular vote
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Claim
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Adequate
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8fca60b9993f
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15A2119D5A49
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most of the time the outcome of the electoral vote is certain.
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Claim
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Adequate
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49f9e446d663
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15A2119D5A49
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Keeping the Electoral College in order to elect our president every 4 years is certainly the best idea. You see an electoral vote is technically a voice for the people of the state depending on the population of the state. Many states are large in size meaning that opinions, beliefs, and needs are not all the same. That's where the Electoral College comes in, they voice the votes.
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Evidence
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Adequate
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72b045dee7e2
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15A2119D5A49
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Majority rules most of the time,
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Claim
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Adequate
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6cd0856ddeba
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15A2119D5A49
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Only the 2000 election was disputed over. Al Gore had more popular votes than Bush yet Bush was elected to presidency because of the Electoral College
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Counterclaim
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Adequate
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377e516511cd
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15A2119D5A49
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Even though this election was disputed it has only been one out of 50 elections.
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Rebuttal
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Adequate
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ef6c62f0cca0
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15A2119D5A49
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If our presidents were picked directly by the people (popular vote) there would be a dispute because of needs and what the people want. Not only that but peoples favoritism would show. Even though the Electoral College vote depends upon many peoples vote towards one president it is smarter.
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Evidence
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Adequate
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b3b1477fbe29
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15A2119D5A49
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Last but not least elections as it is already are time consuming
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Claim
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Adequate
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e9a0b3225d47
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can you imagine if instead of looking at those "4" electoral votes we had to look at each persons vote per state. Instead of knowing within a year or a couple months we'd know by the time the presidents term is up. Americans don't have the patience to wait all that time, "Time equals money." Electoral votes are much quicker and the certainty of the outcome of what you as a civilian want living in a certain state is very likely.
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Therefore Electoral College should be kept instead of Popular vote, because it is time consuming, it is good for big states, and it is less likely of a dispute. Even though this method is not liked by all it is the smartest and most efficient.
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It has been brought to my attention as to which method of voting shall be used in future elections.
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As of now we use the Electoral Colllege method, but looking back through previous years there is evidence this method has caused some dispute. Due to these problems I suggest using the popular voting method.
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The popular voting method is not only a direct vote for the desired candidate of the people's choice
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