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ea315a138714	2C8521890B5A	Presient Richard Nixon, and President Bill Clinton both have something in common; they won their presidencies with the Electoral College, not the popular vote. (According to "In Defense of the Electoral College: five reasons to keep our despised method of choosing the President. Paragraph 22) Richard and Bill only won 43% of the popular vote against their opponents while they were running for office.	Lead	Adequate
c2d11ca43832	2C8521890B5A	This is why the United States needs to keep the Electoral College instead of switching to the popular vote for the elections.	Position	Adequate
0ea0766f84b8	2C8521890B5A	Now you're probably wondering, does high school students even know what the Electoral College is and what it's job? Yes, high school students do know what the Electoral College is and what it does. The Electoral College is made up of 538 electors. Your state amount equals one member from the House of Represenatives and two from the Senate. The electors are chosen from the candidate's political party. The Electoral College decides the president and vice president every four years every Tuesday ater the first Monday in the month of November.	Evidence	Adequate
34809d571b0c	2C8521890B5A	the Electoral College needs to stay instead of the popular vote because when you have the Electoral College you will get an outcome from it unlike the popular vote	Claim	Adequate
c6d94fb61ecc	2C8521890B5A	Almost all states have the "winners take all" method which according to "What is te Electoral College" by the Office of the Federal Regisiter (Paragraph 7) this method is when all electors are awarded to the presidental candidate that is winning.	Evidence	Adequate
7a73ea823b5f	2C8521890B5A	Also the popular vote overrides the popular vote	Claim	Ineffective
c790f7638c04	2C8521890B5A	In "In Defense of the Electoral College: Five reasons to keep our despised method of choosing the President" by Richard A. Posner (Pararaph 18) the 2012 presidental campaign for example it was the battle between Mitt Romney who is a Republican against Barack Obama who is a Democrat. Obama received only 51.3 percent of the popular vote and Obama got 61.7 percent of the Electoral College	Evidence	Adequate
d270c365e4f9	2C8521890B5A	As you can see the Electoral College overrided the popular vote which ultimately made him president	Claim	Adequate
e6c2a21f9277	2C8521890B5A	Also in "In Defense of the Electoral College: Five reasons to keep our despised method of choosing the Presiden" (Paragraph 22)take Richard Nixon's and Bill Clinton's presidental campaign. Those two only won 43% of their popular votes but they won their elections with the Electoral College. Without the Electoral College all three of these presides wouldn't have become President of the United States.	Evidence	Effective
7cd520d89e30	2C8521890B5A	To continue on, the Electoral College should stay instead of the popular vote since one region of the United States doesn't have enough power of the Electoral Votes to make a presidental candidate win	Claim	Adequate
3b6251a642d4	2C8521890B5A	Look at "In Defense of the Electoral College: Five reasons to keep our despised method of choosing the President" Mitt Romney doesn't campaign in the South part of the United States since he knows that he is popular in that region with the electors he doesn't bother camapigning there since he knows he will win their votes. But he has to campaign to other states and regions since he knows the South doesn't have enough power to make him president. And with that comes your swing states and the big states. Swing states listen to what the presidental candidates have to say since they are toss-up states. These swing states literally can "swing" the election. These are the states that are going to decide who the next president is. And that ties in with your big states; California, Texas, Florida, New York, and Pennsylvania are some of your big states since they have the most population out of the United States. These states can also be swing states since they have the most votes out of every state. With the power of the popular vote a presidental canidate can become president, and other regions will not have a say. But using the Electoral College that can't happen.	Evidence	Effective
fd28ed81a7b5	2C8521890B5A	On the other hand, according to "The Indefensible Electoral College: Why even the best-laid defenses of the system are wrong" (Parargraph 14) the Electoral is outdated, irrational, and unfair	Counterclaim	Adequate
d8972db7d8e3	2C8521890B5A	In "The Inefensible Electoral College: Why even the best-laid defenses are the system are wrong" by Bradford Plumer key names such as Jimmy Carter, Bob Dole, AFL-CIO and the U.S. Chamber of Commerece all want to get rid of the Electoral College and use the Popular Vote. Look at the presidency that was in 2000 with Al Gore against George W. Bush. Al Gore would have won the election if the election was based on the popular vote. He won the popular vote with over 60%! But unfortunately, he didn't win and lost to George W. Bush since Bush won the Electoral College votes.	Evidence	Adequate
4961fd6770ac	2C8521890B5A	But some people don't really know what they are voting for in election which is why the Electoral College is the way to go. Also people complained with the "winners take all method" some candidates don't go to certain states and only focus on the swing states. In the 2000 campaign seventeen out of fifty states didn't see the candidates. But the candidates didn't go to those states since they knew they had no chance of winning those states and they needed to focus on the swing states to make sure they win the election. Many people do call the Electoral College an anachronism, but it doesn't need to stick in the past, it needs to be kept in the present and in the future.	Rebuttal	Effective
89d55b261740	2C8521890B5A	the United States needs to keep the Electoral College instead of the popular vote because you will always have an outcome and one region can't overpower another and make a candidate win the presidental campaign. Yes, as said before many people want to get rid of the Electoral College but it will stay with the United States and move forward with us people.	Concluding Statement	Effective
cccfdbfc337e	2C8EA34FDC34	In my opinion you should just leave the Electoral college system the way it is.	Position	Adequate
b88404456707	2C8EA34FDC34	I think you should leave it like how it is because nobody gets to over come power. Everyone in the electoral system have the same amount of power.	Claim	Ineffective
6b8e3daa9944	2C8EA34FDC34	Its keeps everything organized. There is no problem in it, everyone like the way it is but there are couple of people that really don't go along with it. Some of the people that don't go along as what the electoral system says because they like having power. They don't care what the people got to say, they are only worried about having that power and changing the system	Evidence	Ineffective
76422d39b754	2C8EA34FDC34	If they every change the system to popular votes for the president it would be a honest choice	Claim	Ineffective
a3a9d8eee53a	2C8EA34FDC34	I say that because everyone gonna choice a person then other people is going to count and give out the number, whoever has the highest number win. So I think it would be a honestly choice, but in the system everything is organized, everything is already known.	Evidence	Ineffective
32af5291c6d7	2C8EA34FDC34	This has been done for the longest.	Claim	Adequate
4552d14acf43	2C8EA34FDC34	Other president already used the electoral system and it wouldn't be fair to use this other system to choose the new president. Everyone knows already what there job is, and if they would have to change it people would be confused. There going to have to start again from fresh. People being not sure if they doing it right or wrong, and it would take longer to choice a president.	Evidence	Adequate
79486d68adaa	2C8EA34FDC34	i still think that the electoral system is a way better way to help choose a president. There is step to choosing him. There are people that already know what to do with there job, its easy for them. So many times they did it that they are professional at doing it. If we would change it, like I already said they would be confuse, lost. In my opinion the electoral system is way better an easier. Everything is known and better. Its in the constitution	Concluding Statement	Adequate
dd9c19bb5483	2CCC9DCFE253	I do not favor in keeping the Electoral college.	Lead	Adequate
3a52bb6a4db5	2CCC9DCFE253	What I favor is changing electoral college to election by popular vote.	Position	Adequate
9622a233a7f7	2CCC9DCFE253	I think that election by popular vote is very fair and even.	Claim	Adequate
3a8e4a420a71	2CCC9DCFE253	Electoral College can control who their electors vote	Claim	Adequate
3a4c0e5ce5bb	2CCC9DCFE253	it is unfair to the other elector becuse they have no chance of winning the election.	Claim	Adequate
656f45a411f2	2CCC9DCFE253	Consider that state legislature are technically responsible for picking electors, and that those electors always defy the will of the people.	Evidence	Adequate
5f84bb6941fb	2CCC9DCFE253	The electoral college is unfair to voters.	Claim	Adequate
24863c76b2b5	2CCC9DCFE253	The electoral college is unfair because the winner take all system in most states they do not have any chance in winning. The electoral college is just outdated, and very irrational. We should abolish the electoral college it is a uncompetitive way for competeing for president. Everyone deserves a fair and even chance and by the electoral college is not.	Evidence	Adequate
f0cc4138fb83	2CCC9DCFE253	Popular votes is a non democratic method of selecting a president that gets the the positon with the most electoral votes. It is the electors who elect the president not the people	Evidence	Adequate
e8c60b039e13	2CCC9DCFE253	Everyone has a right to vote for who they would like or trust as president.	Claim	Adequate
4f7c5e65704a	2CCC9DCFE253	However it is possible that the winner of the electoral vote will not win the national popular vote.	Counterclaim	Adequate
aa9e363f941e	2CCC9DCFE253	Whe you vote for president your are actually have a part in who you would like.	Rebuttal	Ineffective
f654e9bca518	2CEA555561C1	Dear state senator i am writing to you because i would like to try a different way to select the president by using the popular.	Position	Adequate
89dee94c5497	2CEA555561C1	most states have a "winner-take-all" that awards all electors to the winning presidential candidate. the electoral college is just a process where election of the president by vote in congress and election of the president by a popular vote of qualified citizens. the electoral college process consists of the selction of the electors the meetin of the electors where tey vote for president and vice president and the counting of the electoral votes by congress.	Evidence	Ineffective
8fdf949631b5	2CEA555561C1	when using the electoral college system to vote you voters vote not for president,but for a slate of electors who in turn elect the president. the single best argument against the electoral college is what we might call the disaster factor,	Claim	Adequate
5bc582e2699d	2CEA555561C1	the american people should consider themselves lucky that the 2000 fiasco was the biggest election crisis in a century ; the system allows for much worse.	Evidence	Adequate
7a9c6e5e9613	2CEA555561C1	at the most basic level the electoral college is unfair to voters. Because of the winner-take-all system in each state. the electoral college is unfair,outdated, and irrational.	Claim	Adequate
6cc39b937ca8	2CEA555561C1	the most basic arguments in favor of it are mostly assertions without much basis in reality. and the arguments agianst direct elections are spurious at best. its hard to say this but bob dole was right :abolish the electoral college!	Evidence	Adequate
8fbb7cec9dcf	2CEA555561C1	The electoral college is widely regarded as an anachronism,	Evidence	Adequate
89cf57a4e4ba	2D011A75157A	I infact am not for Electoral College or changing election by popular vote.	Position	Adequate
1b8c59918410	2D011A75157A	I don't like that if you vote for one person, the rest comes with, that's rediculous, what if I want this president but not all his stupid underseers, then what?	Claim	Adequate
f21bf511ef90	2D011A75157A	Another thing, I also dont love how they get to choose a giant room full of democratic dictators, and have them vote, and if they vote differently than the people, then we are forced to go with their choice.	Claim	Adequate
5ebf6abf8579	2D011A75157A	That completley demolishes the idea of our freedom of voting. If they dissagree your gonna throw it to the representatives before back to the people who are the real back bone of this country?!?!"Perhaps the most worrying is the prospect of a tie in the electoral vote. In that case, the election would be thrown to the House of Representatives, where the state delegations vote on the president." "The American pople should conciderthemselves lucky that the 2000 fiasco was the biggest election crisis in a century; the system allows for much worse. Concider that the state legislatures are techinically responsible for picking electors, and those electors could always defy the people."	Evidence	Adequate
ecfd696ab3cb	2D011A75157A	I myself am a libertairian and i dont much like that this test is asking of me to do something storngly against my belifs and i just think is plain aweful. All government is inefective and should be dissolved.	Concluding Statement	Ineffective
936ab432071b	2D5869DE8592	Wyat Gibson, former scientist from NASA, 1976. Today, spacecraft one has captured a image to what looks to appear as a face. Scientist figured it was just another Martain mesa. "Only this one photo had unusaul shadows that made it look like an Egyptain Pharoh.	Evidence	Adequate
c73af1e389fe	2D5869DE8592	I predicted that it must have a degree of surpise among mission controllers back at the Jet Propulsion lab when the face appeared on the monitiors.	Claim	Adequate
5ca647c57309	2D5869DE8592	Some other scientist belived the face was an alien artfact. I snapped a picture ten times sharper than the oraginal Viking photos.	Evidence	Ineffective
2ff52285c2ce	2D5869DE8592	I have done lots of reaserch, and revealed a natural landform.	Claim	Ineffective
d1d1477a606f	2D5869DE8592	I reasched the photo a lot more. After a lot of rearch, I decoved that there was no alien monument after all.	Evidence	Adequate
0a79a3c00278	2D5869DE8592	We decieded that we still did not have enough evedience. Perhaps, alien markings were hidden by haze. Still there is no evedience as we continued.	Evidence	Adequate
7ffc70cd3579	2D5869DE8592	After more and more reasch. There is still no alien monument.	Claim	Ineffective
6efddae51c8b	2D5869DE8592	We decovered that the picture is acually the Martian of a butte or mesa.	Claim	Adequate
eb7d5e6c4656	2D5869DE8592	They are landforms common around the American West. It's a lava dome that takes the form of an isolated mesa about that same height as the face on mars.	Evidence	Adequate
55bf85cf2f00	2D5869DE8592	In the end, there was not evedience of alien lifeform or artcraft. What we predicted might not be right, but it's defenitly not a sign of alien life.	Position	Adequate
2f9f1d37b455	2D617E37684A	We should keep the Electoral College instead of changing it.	Position	Adequate
f9653860de63	2D617E37684A	One reason for keeping it is because the method of selecting the president may turn off potential voters for a candidate who has no hope of carrying their state.	Evidence	Ineffective
50442a073c44	2D617E37684A	Electoral College avoids problems for example Nixon in 1968 and clinton in 1992 both had only 43 percent of popular votes,while winning a majority in the electoral college 301 and 3 70 electoral votes.	Evidence	Ineffective
ab9a496dd279	2D617E37684A	Another reason would be because some states are bigger then other and get more popular votes then others	Claim	Adequate
a939f1027fc3	2D617E37684A	like Obama, who won the same amrgin in wymoing would net the winner only 3 electoral votes	Evidence	Ineffective
57240d8b7ef0	2D617E37684A	reasons to leave it like it is are Certainty of outcome, Swing States,Big States,and to avoid Run-Off Elections.	Claim	Adequate
088b69015f4c	2D617E37684A	Whats wrong with the electoral vote some people seem to think its fair and more efficent.	Claim	Adequate
03f7d2a3205e	2D617E37684A	Some people might not like the Electoral College just becaues they might think that its not fair.	Counterclaim	Adequate
18d82d582f15	2D617E37684A	Some States have more electoral votes given to them then other states. Such as California t has 55 and some other states only have like 3-8 electoral votes.	Evidence	Adequate
ef317f40855c	2D617E37684A	Some people might argue about this. It should be the more thoughtful voters that are able to vote.	Rebuttal	Adequate
5733558c50fb	2D617E37684A	Certainty of outcome can help	Claim	Adequate
803ecbfab07c	2D617E37684A	In the election between Obama and Romney Obama received 61.7 percent of the election while Romney had 51.3 percent of the popular votes because almost all states award electoral votes on a winner takes all basis, evem a very slight plurality in a state creates a landslide electoral-vote victory in that state.	Evidence	Adequate
4c29013624c1	2D654BBA9310	In this essay of the Electoral College it is questioning to see if the Electoral College realy works	Lead	Ineffective
5c800dc7d4ef	2D654BBA9310	In my point of view I think that it does because it gives certain reasons to show it does and if it didnt work the would've changed it a long time ago so it shows you that it work and thats why its still around until this day	Position	Ineffective
2b64150c7ead	2D654BBA9310	The Electoral College is a process , not a place. The founding fathers establised it in the consitution as a compromise between election of the president by a vote in Congress and election of the president by a popular vote of qualified citizens.	Evidence	Adequate
ae7ff1e237d4	2D654BBA9310	One of the reasons i think that the Electoral College actually works is because The Electoral College works is because it process consists of the selection of the electors where they vote for President and Vice President, and the counting of the electoral votes by congress	Claim	Adequate
6774f0d446f3	2D654BBA9310	The Electoral College helps pick the president and vice president and if didnt have that then it wouldve been total chaos because with The Electoral College it is way easier and faster and is a better process , The Electoral College consists of many electors and electoral votes this is really important because under the 23rd Amendment of the Constitution, the District of Columbia is allocated 3 electors and treated like a state for purposes of the Electoral College. For This Reason, in the discussion the word state also refers to the District of Columbia.	Evidence	Ineffective
96c2175c6956	2D8C767B44E7	Well i choose election because the election is a better way of letting the oters express their ideas.	Position	Adequate
1da98fb2c456	2D8C767B44E7	They could also pick wich one they think is the most proficiant	Claim	Ineffective
850787a5c477	2D8C767B44E7	Unlike the electorals they choose the people that will decide the president so there for they could and may lie to the judges and tell them a certain thing but then do a different thing that is also a well asked questions.	Claim	Ineffective
8525c41572c1	2D8C767B44E7	Electoral could have a positive outcome sometimes as such it can have a negative outcome.	Claim	Ineffective
514ad65b807e	2D8C767B44E7	Election can also have positive and negative points. But i think that election could have a better chance of succeding because of the voters. Stated in paragraph 11 says ( The single best argument against the electoral college is what we might call the disaster factor.) well there we have it people are already questioning that choice. Some proses that ties that vote could and may not be acurate.	Evidence	Ineffective
f8ab8e97cce9	2D8C767B44E7	Election also has some bad features like some might say its the most basic level but it also is unfair in some ways.	Claim	Ineffective
8c71e7b65fbf	2D8C767B44E7	That statement or opinion is based on each individuals point of view. We dont all look at the choices in the same way. That is very important to try to undestand each choice and look at them closely. To be honest i think both have good ideas but election has a better outcome from my point of view.	Evidence	Ineffective
c70ae7641095	2D8C767B44E7	Electoral or Election. I say Election both are extremely simialar but also very different. Deciding a president is very important in any situation. The Outcome of choosing then turning out that it was a miss understanding is very ploral. We have to put the outcomes of both out there and examine each and every one closely.	Concluding Statement	Ineffective
658ca69c6c29	2D9481E29A45	the electoral college should be changed	Position	Adequate
6dc33a24c885	2D9481E29A45	the electoral college does not really give people the right to vote	Claim	Adequate
4312acbcc5d1	2D9481E29A45	they might think they are but there not in other words is taking that power off the people ,the electoral college process consist of 538 elector and only 270 electoral votes are need it to elect a president it maybe a good idea for some but is not . That is way some states have a winner-takes -all system that awards all the electors to the winning presidential candidate .We the people dont get to choose our own president under the electoral college we only vote for a slate of electors .	Evidence	Adequate
2e8b05ac48ee	2D9481E29A45	We cannot always control the elector and who might he choose thas way	Claim	Ineffective
3481bc45b116	2D9481E29A45	its official the electoral college is unfair,outdated and irrational.	Evidence	Ineffective
3486669e1f7a	2D9481E29A45	But still some people still believe that the electoral college is a good thing for the nation	Counterclaim	Adequate
393ad5735730	2D9481E29A45	even if they have a tie the house of representative votes on the president not the people .	Rebuttal	Ineffective
efb7c50077be	2D9481E29A45	The electoral college has five reasons , retaining itself its lack of democratic pedigree ,all are practical reasons , not liberal or conservative reasons	Evidence	Ineffective
515c512a1dc2	2D9481E29A45	they are there to avoid problems of election in which no candidates receives a majority of votes	Counterclaim	Adequate
78ff28c87635	2D9481E29A45	some say the electoral college fluctuated in the 2000 fiasco and had the biggest election crisis in the century .	Rebuttal	Ineffective
1b841a2ab252	2DBFE64834A2	I am strongly against driverless cars. I feel that whoever came up with the idea must have had some bad food or something. I wonder what encouraged them to even have the thought of a car driving itself. Having driverless cars will most likely end the human population. I am saying this because it makes me think of the movie Wall-e.	Position	Adequate
4e2fb81a40bf	2DBFE64834A2	In the movie Wall-e there is a robot named Wall-e and earth is deserted or so wall-e thinks. One day Wall-e was doing his normal routine when he stumbled upon a pretty robot named Eve. Wall-e and Eve go on a journey to find her home/ ship, and when they do it is filled with humans. Wall-e is suprised to see the humans he thought they all were dead. Every human that he sees is sitting in a chair that can move them aournd to where ever they want, and get them whatever they want.	Evidence	Adequate
a3cc53681949	2DBFE64834A2	They don have to get up for anything or physically move their musles. All of the people are obese. People die from obesity, obesity can cause heart problems which can cause a heart attack. Which can make you die. This is only a chair, imagine what it would be like if it was a car.	Claim	Adequate
90acc1370d50	2DBFE64834A2	It would be pointless for adults and teenagers to get lisence. It would be pointless to have rules of the road.	Evidence	Adequate
55140696ab04	2DBFE64834A2	Everything that has restriictions, or policies on drivers and their driving would be pointless and useless.	Claim	Adequate
96b4f0212065	2DBFE64834A2	As of now we our try to stop drinking and driving. If a car drove itself few crashes but the number lives that are taken will be the same. Peopel can die from alcohol poisoning. Even now cars have malfunctions, what if the driverless car runs into another car because it couldnt stop. A few years ago a lady was on the interstate and her breaks weren't working. The emergency break wasn't even working, and she was going aroung 70 miles per hour. She only had control over the steering wheel. People wont have control over the steering wheel of the driverless car descides to malfunction. Many lives could be taken because of it.	Evidence	Adequate
020d28998ffb	2DBFE64834A2	This is why i am against driverless cars.	Concluding Statement	Ineffective
2b7b4e1acc0c	2DEC6F2AE21A	Many people don't like the way the president is picked. They are picked by the Electoral College	Lead	Adequate

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Presient Richard Nixon, and President Bill Clinton both have something in common; they won their presidencies with the Electoral College, not the popular vote. (According to "In Defense of the Electoral College: five reasons to keep our despised method of choosing the President. Paragraph 22) Richard and Bill only won 43% of the popular vote against their opponents while they were running for office.

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This is why the United States needs to keep the Electoral College instead of switching to the popular vote for the elections.

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Now you're probably wondering, does high school students even know what the Electoral College is and what it's job? Yes, high school students do know what the Electoral College is and what it does. The Electoral College is made up of 538 electors. Your state amount equals one member from the House of Represenatives and two from the Senate. The electors are chosen from the candidate's political party. The Electoral College decides the president and vice president every four years every Tuesday ater the first Monday in the month of November.

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the Electoral College needs to stay instead of the popular vote because when you have the Electoral College you will get an outcome from it unlike the popular vote

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Almost all states have the "winners take all" method which according to "What is te Electoral College" by the Office of the Federal Regisiter (Paragraph 7) this method is when all electors are awarded to the presidental candidate that is winning.

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Also the popular vote overrides the popular vote

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In "In Defense of the Electoral College: Five reasons to keep our despised method of choosing the President" by Richard A. Posner (Pararaph 18) the 2012 presidental campaign for example it was the battle between Mitt Romney who is a Republican against Barack Obama who is a Democrat. Obama received only 51.3 percent of the popular vote and Obama got 61.7 percent of the Electoral College

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As you can see the Electoral College overrided the popular vote which ultimately made him president

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Also in "In Defense of the Electoral College: Five reasons to keep our despised method of choosing the Presiden" (Paragraph 22)take Richard Nixon's and Bill Clinton's presidental campaign. Those two only won 43% of their popular votes but they won their elections with the Electoral College. Without the Electoral College all three of these presides wouldn't have become President of the United States.

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To continue on, the Electoral College should stay instead of the popular vote since one region of the United States doesn't have enough power of the Electoral Votes to make a presidental candidate win

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Look at "In Defense of the Electoral College: Five reasons to keep our despised method of choosing the President" Mitt Romney doesn't campaign in the South part of the United States since he knows that he is popular in that region with the electors he doesn't bother camapigning there since he knows he will win their votes. But he has to campaign to other states and regions since he knows the South doesn't have enough power to make him president. And with that comes your swing states and the big states. Swing states listen to what the presidental candidates have to say since they are toss-up states. These swing states literally can "swing" the election. These are the states that are going to decide who the next president is. And that ties in with your big states; California, Texas, Florida, New York, and Pennsylvania are some of your big states since they have the most population out of the United States. These states can also be swing states since they have the most votes out of every state. With the power of the popular vote a presidental canidate can become president, and other regions will not have a say. But using the Electoral College that can't happen.

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On the other hand, according to "The Indefensible Electoral College: Why even the best-laid defenses of the system are wrong" (Parargraph 14) the Electoral is outdated, irrational, and unfair

Counterclaim

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In "The Inefensible Electoral College: Why even the best-laid defenses are the system are wrong" by Bradford Plumer key names such as Jimmy Carter, Bob Dole, AFL-CIO and the U.S. Chamber of Commerece all want to get rid of the Electoral College and use the Popular Vote. Look at the presidency that was in 2000 with Al Gore against George W. Bush. Al Gore would have won the election if the election was based on the popular vote. He won the popular vote with over 60%! But unfortunately, he didn't win and lost to George W. Bush since Bush won the Electoral College votes.

Evidence

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But some people don't really know what they are voting for in election which is why the Electoral College is the way to go. Also people complained with the "winners take all method" some candidates don't go to certain states and only focus on the swing states. In the 2000 campaign seventeen out of fifty states didn't see the candidates. But the candidates didn't go to those states since they knew they had no chance of winning those states and they needed to focus on the swing states to make sure they win the election. Many people do call the Electoral College an anachronism, but it doesn't need to stick in the past, it needs to be kept in the present and in the future.

Rebuttal

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the United States needs to keep the Electoral College instead of the popular vote because you will always have an outcome and one region can't overpower another and make a candidate win the presidental campaign. Yes, as said before many people want to get rid of the Electoral College but it will stay with the United States and move forward with us people.

Concluding Statement

Effective

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In my opinion you should just leave the Electoral college system the way it is.

Position

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I think you should leave it like how it is because nobody gets to over come power. Everyone in the electoral system have the same amount of power.

Claim

Ineffective

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Its keeps everything organized. There is no problem in it, everyone like the way it is but there are couple of people that really don't go along with it. Some of the people that don't go along as what the electoral system says because they like having power. They don't care what the people got to say, they are only worried about having that power and changing the system

Evidence

Ineffective

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If they every change the system to popular votes for the president it would be a honest choice

Claim

Ineffective

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I say that because everyone gonna choice a person then other people is going to count and give out the number, whoever has the highest number win. So I think it would be a honestly choice, but in the system everything is organized, everything is already known.

Evidence

Ineffective

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This has been done for the longest.

Claim

Adequate

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Other president already used the electoral system and it wouldn't be fair to use this other system to choose the new president. Everyone knows already what there job is, and if they would have to change it people would be confused. There going to have to start again from fresh. People being not sure if they doing it right or wrong, and it would take longer to choice a president.

Evidence

Adequate

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i still think that the electoral system is a way better way to help choose a president. There is step to choosing him. There are people that already know what to do with there job, its easy for them. So many times they did it that they are professional at doing it. If we would change it, like I already said they would be confuse, lost. In my opinion the electoral system is way better an easier. Everything is known and better. Its in the constitution

Concluding Statement

Adequate

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I do not favor in keeping the Electoral college.

Lead

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What I favor is changing electoral college to election by popular vote.

Position

Adequate

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I think that election by popular vote is very fair and even.

Claim

Adequate

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Electoral College can control who their electors vote

Claim

Adequate

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it is unfair to the other elector becuse they have no chance of winning the election.

Claim

Adequate

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Consider that state legislature are technically responsible for picking electors, and that those electors always defy the will of the people.

Evidence

Adequate

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The electoral college is unfair to voters.

Claim

Adequate

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The electoral college is unfair because the winner take all system in most states they do not have any chance in winning. The electoral college is just outdated, and very irrational. We should abolish the electoral college it is a uncompetitive way for competeing for president. Everyone deserves a fair and even chance and by the electoral college is not.

Evidence

Adequate

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Popular votes is a non democratic method of selecting a president that gets the the positon with the most electoral votes. It is the electors who elect the president not the people

Evidence

Adequate

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Everyone has a right to vote for who they would like or trust as president.

Claim

Adequate

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However it is possible that the winner of the electoral vote will not win the national popular vote.

Counterclaim

Adequate

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Whe you vote for president your are actually have a part in who you would like.

Rebuttal

Ineffective

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Dear state senator i am writing to you because i would like to try a different way to select the president by using the popular.

Position

Adequate

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most states have a "winner-take-all" that awards all electors to the winning presidential candidate. the electoral college is just a process where election of the president by vote in congress and election of the president by a popular vote of qualified citizens. the electoral college process consists of the selction of the electors the meetin of the electors where tey vote for president and vice president and the counting of the electoral votes by congress.

Evidence

Ineffective

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when using the electoral college system to vote you voters vote not for president,but for a slate of electors who in turn elect the president. the single best argument against the electoral college is what we might call the disaster factor,

Claim

Adequate

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the american people should consider themselves lucky that the 2000 fiasco was the biggest election crisis in a century ; the system allows for much worse.

Evidence

Adequate

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at the most basic level the electoral college is unfair to voters. Because of the winner-take-all system in each state. the electoral college is unfair,outdated, and irrational.

Claim

Adequate

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the most basic arguments in favor of it are mostly assertions without much basis in reality. and the arguments agianst direct elections are spurious at best. its hard to say this but bob dole was right :abolish the electoral college!

Evidence

Adequate

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The electoral college is widely regarded as an anachronism,

Evidence

Adequate

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I infact am not for Electoral College or changing election by popular vote.

Position

Adequate

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I don't like that if you vote for one person, the rest comes with, that's rediculous, what if I want this president but not all his stupid underseers, then what?

Claim

Adequate

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Another thing, I also dont love how they get to choose a giant room full of democratic dictators, and have them vote, and if they vote differently than the people, then we are forced to go with their choice.

Claim

Adequate

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That completley demolishes the idea of our freedom of voting. If they dissagree your gonna throw it to the representatives before back to the people who are the real back bone of this country?!?!"Perhaps the most worrying is the prospect of a tie in the electoral vote. In that case, the election would be thrown to the House of Representatives, where the state delegations vote on the president." "The American pople should conciderthemselves lucky that the 2000 fiasco was the biggest election crisis in a century; the system allows for much worse. Concider that the state legislatures are techinically responsible for picking electors, and those electors could always defy the people."

Evidence

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I myself am a libertairian and i dont much like that this test is asking of me to do something storngly against my belifs and i just think is plain aweful. All government is inefective and should be dissolved.

Concluding Statement

Ineffective

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Wyat Gibson, former scientist from NASA, 1976. Today, spacecraft one has captured a image to what looks to appear as a face. Scientist figured it was just another Martain mesa. "Only this one photo had unusaul shadows that made it look like an Egyptain Pharoh.

Evidence

Adequate

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I predicted that it must have a degree of surpise among mission controllers back at the Jet Propulsion lab when the face appeared on the monitiors.

Claim

Adequate

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Some other scientist belived the face was an alien artfact. I snapped a picture ten times sharper than the oraginal Viking photos.

Evidence

Ineffective

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I have done lots of reaserch, and revealed a natural landform.

Claim

Ineffective

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I reasched the photo a lot more. After a lot of rearch, I decoved that there was no alien monument after all.

Evidence

Adequate

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We decieded that we still did not have enough evedience. Perhaps, alien markings were hidden by haze. Still there is no evedience as we continued.

Evidence

Adequate

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After more and more reasch. There is still no alien monument.

Claim

Ineffective

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We decovered that the picture is acually the Martian of a butte or mesa.

Claim

Adequate

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They are landforms common around the American West. It's a lava dome that takes the form of an isolated mesa about that same height as the face on mars.

Evidence

Adequate

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In the end, there was not evedience of alien lifeform or artcraft. What we predicted might not be right, but it's defenitly not a sign of alien life.

Position

Adequate

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We should keep the Electoral College instead of changing it.

Position

Adequate

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One reason for keeping it is because the method of selecting the president may turn off potential voters for a candidate who has no hope of carrying their state.

Evidence

Ineffective

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Electoral College avoids problems for example Nixon in 1968 and clinton in 1992 both had only 43 percent of popular votes,while winning a majority in the electoral college 301 and 3 70 electoral votes.

Evidence

Ineffective

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Another reason would be because some states are bigger then other and get more popular votes then others

Claim

Adequate

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like Obama, who won the same amrgin in wymoing would net the winner only 3 electoral votes

Evidence

Ineffective

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reasons to leave it like it is are Certainty of outcome, Swing States,Big States,and to avoid Run-Off Elections.

Claim

Adequate

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Whats wrong with the electoral vote some people seem to think its fair and more efficent.

Claim

Adequate

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Some people might not like the Electoral College just becaues they might think that its not fair.

Counterclaim

Adequate

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Some States have more electoral votes given to them then other states. Such as California t has 55 and some other states only have like 3-8 electoral votes.

Evidence

Adequate

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Some people might argue about this. It should be the more thoughtful voters that are able to vote.

Rebuttal

Adequate

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Certainty of outcome can help

Claim

Adequate

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In the election between Obama and Romney Obama received 61.7 percent of the election while Romney had 51.3 percent of the popular votes because almost all states award electoral votes on a winner takes all basis, evem a very slight plurality in a state creates a landslide electoral-vote victory in that state.

Evidence

Adequate

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In this essay of the Electoral College it is questioning to see if the Electoral College realy works

Lead

Ineffective

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In my point of view I think that it does because it gives certain reasons to show it does and if it didnt work the would've changed it a long time ago so it shows you that it work and thats why its still around until this day

Position

Ineffective

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The Electoral College is a process , not a place. The founding fathers establised it in the consitution as a compromise between election of the president by a vote in Congress and election of the president by a popular vote of qualified citizens.

Evidence

Adequate

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One of the reasons i think that the Electoral College actually works is because The Electoral College works is because it process consists of the selection of the electors where they vote for President and Vice President, and the counting of the electoral votes by congress

Claim

Adequate

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The Electoral College helps pick the president and vice president and if didnt have that then it wouldve been total chaos because with The Electoral College it is way easier and faster and is a better process , The Electoral College consists of many electors and electoral votes this is really important because under the 23rd Amendment of the Constitution, the District of Columbia is allocated 3 electors and treated like a state for purposes of the Electoral College. For This Reason, in the discussion the word state also refers to the District of Columbia.

Evidence

Ineffective

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Well i choose election because the election is a better way of letting the oters express their ideas.

Position

Adequate

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They could also pick wich one they think is the most proficiant

Claim

Ineffective

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Unlike the electorals they choose the people that will decide the president so there for they could and may lie to the judges and tell them a certain thing but then do a different thing that is also a well asked questions.

Claim

Ineffective

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Electoral could have a positive outcome sometimes as such it can have a negative outcome.

Claim

Ineffective

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Election can also have positive and negative points. But i think that election could have a better chance of succeding because of the voters. Stated in paragraph 11 says ( The single best argument against the electoral college is what we might call the disaster factor.) well there we have it people are already questioning that choice. Some proses that ties that vote could and may not be acurate.

Evidence

Ineffective

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Election also has some bad features like some might say its the most basic level but it also is unfair in some ways.

Claim

Ineffective

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That statement or opinion is based on each individuals point of view. We dont all look at the choices in the same way. That is very important to try to undestand each choice and look at them closely. To be honest i think both have good ideas but election has a better outcome from my point of view.

Evidence

Ineffective

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Electoral or Election. I say Election both are extremely simialar but also very different. Deciding a president is very important in any situation. The Outcome of choosing then turning out that it was a miss understanding is very ploral. We have to put the outcomes of both out there and examine each and every one closely.

Concluding Statement

Ineffective

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the electoral college should be changed

Position

Adequate

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the electoral college does not really give people the right to vote

Claim

Adequate

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they might think they are but there not in other words is taking that power off the people ,the electoral college process consist of 538 elector and only 270 electoral votes are need it to elect a president it maybe a good idea for some but is not . That is way some states have a winner-takes -all system that awards all the electors to the winning presidential candidate .We the people dont get to choose our own president under the electoral college we only vote for a slate of electors .

Evidence

Adequate

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We cannot always control the elector and who might he choose thas way

Claim

Ineffective

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its official the electoral college is unfair,outdated and irrational.

Evidence

Ineffective

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But still some people still believe that the electoral college is a good thing for the nation

Counterclaim

Adequate

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even if they have a tie the house of representative votes on the president not the people .

Rebuttal

Ineffective

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The electoral college has five reasons , retaining itself its lack of democratic pedigree ,all are practical reasons , not liberal or conservative reasons

Evidence

Ineffective

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they are there to avoid problems of election in which no candidates receives a majority of votes

Counterclaim

Adequate

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some say the electoral college fluctuated in the 2000 fiasco and had the biggest election crisis in the century .

Rebuttal

Ineffective

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I am strongly against driverless cars. I feel that whoever came up with the idea must have had some bad food or something. I wonder what encouraged them to even have the thought of a car driving itself. Having driverless cars will most likely end the human population. I am saying this because it makes me think of the movie Wall-e.

Position

Adequate

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In the movie Wall-e there is a robot named Wall-e and earth is deserted or so wall-e thinks. One day Wall-e was doing his normal routine when he stumbled upon a pretty robot named Eve. Wall-e and Eve go on a journey to find her home/ ship, and when they do it is filled with humans. Wall-e is suprised to see the humans he thought they all were dead. Every human that he sees is sitting in a chair that can move them aournd to where ever they want, and get them whatever they want.

Evidence

Adequate

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They don have to get up for anything or physically move their musles. All of the people are obese. People die from obesity, obesity can cause heart problems which can cause a heart attack. Which can make you die. This is only a chair, imagine what it would be like if it was a car.

Claim

Adequate

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It would be pointless for adults and teenagers to get lisence. It would be pointless to have rules of the road.

Evidence

Adequate

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Everything that has restriictions, or policies on drivers and their driving would be pointless and useless.

Claim

Adequate

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As of now we our try to stop drinking and driving. If a car drove itself few crashes but the number lives that are taken will be the same. Peopel can die from alcohol poisoning. Even now cars have malfunctions, what if the driverless car runs into another car because it couldnt stop. A few years ago a lady was on the interstate and her breaks weren't working. The emergency break wasn't even working, and she was going aroung 70 miles per hour. She only had control over the steering wheel. People wont have control over the steering wheel of the driverless car descides to malfunction. Many lives could be taken because of it.

Evidence

Adequate

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This is why i am against driverless cars.

Concluding Statement

Ineffective

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Many people don't like the way the president is picked. They are picked by the Electoral College

Lead

Adequate