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I would like to bring to your attention the matter of the electoral college, and the unjust way that presidents are elected in our country. While there are benefits, more of the negative effects come to play when reviewing and contemplating on whether this system is effect or not
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The Electoral College is very unfair, and should be subject for abolishment
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The number of electors in the Electoral College consits of 538 electors in total, which makes a tie completley possible, although it has never happened, in the past only a few more votes were required to create this unlikley problem
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According to source 3, paragraph 18, Richard A. Posner claims that, "A tie in the nationwide electoral vote is possible because the total number of votes-538- is an even number, but it is highly unlikley..." There's a shockingly short ammount of votes required to turn an election into a situtation where both canidates have an even number of votes, a problem almost occured in 1976, that were if, according to source #2, paragraph #12, Bradford Plumer, "a mere 5,559 voters in Ohio and 3687 voters in Hawaii had voted the other way." Those may look as if they are big numbers, however in comparison to the amount of voters in each state, these are not large amounts of people who needed to vote the other way. In comparison, the number of representatives is determined by the number of members in your congressional delegation, the amount of electors per state is fair. Still, however, the event of a tie would cause a lot of issues within our country, and would be relieved if the winner was elected by popular vote.
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In addition, electors are United States citizens, and are entitled to their own vote based on the Constitution, while they are allotted their own vote, this gives opportunity for problems to arrise
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Politics are very lowkey orders of buisness, and in 1960, the legislatures in Louisiana almost used the disaster factor to swing the election in their favor, by electing people who were more likley to vote for the opposer of John F. Kennedy, because they prefered the other canidate. According to source #3, paragraph 16, Posner addresses, "..each party selects a slate of electors trusted to vote for the party's nomie (and that trust is rarely betrayed". . . [; however,] it is entirely possible that the winner of the electoral vote will not win the national popular vote." Since the electors can technically vote for whoever they desire, it can cause an unfair advantage to the electors sent who vote for the other candiate
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The other factor tying in is that the voters feel as if their direct vote does not count. While it is true one vote cannot sway the election, it becomes apparent that canidates must have transregional appeal, meaning that they're favored in that region of the U.S.
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The canidates hold off on campaigning in states they already know they have dominated the votes in, because there is no one region that can elect a president. This makes voter feel inferior, and discourage them from "wasting" their time voting. If we use the majority of votes way to establish the new president, it is more likely that they will decide to vote once again, since they feel as if their opinion once again matters
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As you may recall, the 2000 election had a dispute between the popular vote
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Confusion with the votes in a state that decides which kind of electors to send to vote creates issues, because it is unclear which the majority goes to, a canidate may recieve more votes than the others. This creates an advantage to a candiate, and makes a problem for the people who voted for the other canidate
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Also, in source 3, paragraph 22, Posner expresses the issues when a run-off election occurs
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Some canidates will not win a majority of casted votes, the pressure complicates the presidential election, leaving the true, clear descion to the Electoral College
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In conclusion, the Electoral College seems unconstitutional, since a variety of issues can occur due to the many problems that could potentially occur. The United States should shift into a more reasonable and logical means of electing our president in our Republic, where everybody is equal. The Electoral College should no longer decide the president based on the possibility of a tie, the possibility for betrayal of trust and disputes due to how close the votes are. The system should change to where the popular opinion should decide on the president of the United States of America, making people believe that their vote will be fairly counted.
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Well first if i go back to paragraph 3 Nasa states that they thought from sending the pictures to the pubic it be a good way to atract public attention to fund mar's missions.
"The face" became very popular when Nasa first sent it to the public. Also on paragraph 7 the author states that when the Mars Global Surveyor flew over Cydonia ,they found out that "the face" was just a regular natural landform. In the year of 2001 the Mars Global Surveyor was able to snap a picture of the landform, as said by Garvin
"the picture actually showed the Martian equivalent of a buttle or mesa- landforms common around the American West"
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I don't think the landform is an ancient artifact or any alian artifact i just think its a normal landform that happens to look like a human or alian face.
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Even if Nasa was lying to us the landform benefits Nasa.
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When they first snapped the photograph and shared it with the public it received alot of public attention. Many people funded the missions to snap more photographs of the landform to get a better look at it. It was basically was a waste of time and money because it ended up being just a regular landform and not an alian artifact as the world believed it was at the time.
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There has been a strong arguement going on weather we should keep the Electoral College or if we should change it. Both sides have made a strong claim and a strong arguement. I got the opportunity to read two articles that are against and in favor of it. After reading these articles I have made decision.
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I have came to the conclusion that we should keep the Electoral College.
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My first reason why, we should keep Electoral College is because this country was founded on it.
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Also, our 4 founding fathers were in favor of this Electoral College. This is a principle in which this great country has been founded on. This is the history of this country and the principles on which it was founded on.
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Another reason why, we should keep Electoral College is that this would avoid the run off of elections
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If there was no Electoral College candidates will be fighting for the popular vote. The problem with this popular vote is that there would be no candidate that recieves a majority of the votes. In an Electoral College there would not be this problem, since in each state the winner takes it all.
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Last but not least, we should keep Electoral College because this allows for each candidate to pick his or her own groups of electors.
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This allows the running candidate to pick out the group that he or she would be able to work with the best, and get along with the most. This would also allow the candidate to better fight or argue on certain matters and on certain cases. Also, it is important for a candidate to get along with his or her group that they will be working with.
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These are all of the reasons why I think and belive that we should keep Electoral College.
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The electoral college is an institution that has always guided the presidential elections.
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The electoral college is tradition and shouldn't be changed
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it has balanced relegation of power within the states,
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almost always a definate winner,
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it is able to hold a set timeline for the elections.
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The college has always been able to choose a president that is able to lead our country well,
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electoral college is a representation of the people of the United States of America. As the president's constituents, we have the power to choose our leader, and they make it a little easier for us.
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This is why Wyoming has only three votes and Florida has twenty nine. It's nothing to complain about, because it's the same number of people each state has in both the Senate and the House of Representatives, meaning each state has at least three votes, decided by its population. This is not a very bad system because the states with huge populations have a bit of their power curbed by the number of electors. So if Wyoming increases its population, and Florida has its population decreased, one of the electors could be removed from Florida and added to Wyoming, balancing the scale of power between them. It's only fair for a populous state like Florida to have more electors anyway, there are many opinions that are yearning to be heard within the ginormous population, and there must be enough electors who can take it upon themselves to voice them. The Electoral College protects us from the probability of voting just because the candidate is from the same state. A majority of people will vote because of a close association with a candidate if the electoral college is abolished. This is why the electoral college only contains 538 people, because nobody wants millions of voters in California voting for the same candidate just because they are the Governor of California.
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Due to the even amount of votes in the electoral college, there is a slight chance of a tie.
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However, with all but two states being part of the "winner-take-all" system,
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This is why swing states are so important to the canditates, they know that the chances of them winning the votes in the other party's states are almost impossible, so they must gather all of the votes they can from the states that are known for their swing-like tendencies. It also goes the other way, each candidate trusts that their own party's states will vote for them, so there is no need to waste the money and campaign. Unless its the primary elections, candidates don't typically campaign where they know that the votes are all but set in stone. It's like going grocery shopping, if you know that you are allergic to peanut butter and you already have all the jam you need, you will only go for the special bread that everybody fights for right? The candidates are the same, they don't go after what they already have and what they can't have, only what they might earn, or else it's just a waste of money, so nobody should be able to complain about a candidates campaigning.
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The election process is guided by this timeline, for example, voting starts on the second Thursday of the month of November every single time. The Electoral College is a huge part of this process also, and to destroy that would be heartbreaking for the nuerotics that can't stand any change in routine. If the Electoral College were to be abolished, and popular vote was to be instigated throughout the country, any semblance of a schedule would be torn away. Problems would spring up all over the place, and everything would all go to hell. Instead of recounts for counties, whole states would need recounts. If a populous state like Texas were to need a recount, never mind a week, a month wouldn't be enough time to recount it all perfectly. The government would be stuck without a leader, and worst case scenario, the United States of America could be put in a state of anarchy by the end of the decade. Then, we wouldn't be United anymore.
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The Electoral College has been there from the beginning, and the without it the United States of America could be thrown into chaos. Traditions shouldn't be broken and the Electoral College represents the biggest one of them all, it balances power between each of the states, defines a true winner, and guides the U.S. on a set timeline. It wouldn't be a far stretch to say that the Electoral College helps keep the order of the country. Truthfully, everyone needs some semblance of order, and the Electoral College provides that and more.
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I belive that we should change the election to a popular vote for the president of the united states.
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we should make the choice ourselfs so it matters more in the long run
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it will make more potental voters
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We as americans should have more power when it comes to chooseing our president.
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Some people may argue that the electorial college avoids the problem of run-off elections as stated in source two
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if there is a tie then there should have the previouse presedent of the united states vote to brek the tie.
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I dont believe any vote should count more than a citizens vote. If we are suppose to have a goverment run by the people why cant the peoples vote matter.
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people would vote more if their vote could be that single vote that decides who`s president.
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In the electorial college only their vote matters the popular vote doesn`t make a difference in the long run. The reason people vote is so that the person they want as president will win the race not so the person the electorial college wants to will win. The popular vote is simply deciding electors who can vote however they please which means the citizens vote doesnt make a difference wich unfair.
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In conclusion america should have a popular vote not an electorial college because the peoples vote should matter. If you want a fair and honest goverment everyones vote should matter equaly and there should be no electorial college. If you care about what the american citizens opinions and what they have to say get rid of the electorial college.
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I think we should keep the electoral college
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it at least gives people a say on weather or not the person they vote for gets elected or not,
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people always say that you can't complain if you don't vote,
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America was made to give people freedom, so people being able to pick the pesident is a big part of our freedom, and taking that away leaves us with not as much say in big desions such as a presidental election. The people that would probably complain the most is older people because they are use to being able to vote, and taking that away would get them angry I'm sure, and the people complain louder than they do praise.
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Another reason why they shouldn't take away electoral colleges is because of the amount of complant they would get from everyone if they do decide to take electoral college away.
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It might even make some people turn against their country, but that only goes for the people who are really into politics and voting and things of that nature. People say you can't complain if you don't vote, but if they take that perivlage away, I'm sure you'll be hearing even more complaining than if people have the right to vote, but even so, this up and coming generation isn't really into voting anyways, but it should be avalable regardless.
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Those are basically the two big reasons why voting should be avalable to everyone, and not just left up to sentators and stuff. People want a say on who's running their country and because there will be tons of complaining if voting is taken away from them.
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We have all hear about this "Face" right
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Well if you haven't Is really just a landform
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The other Scientists has all of these people rallied up because they think that aliens are to exist.
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That cannot be possible because , if aliens existed then why are we just finding them? Wouldn't we already have proof of their existence ?
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Then Again , there are all types of landforms on earth some man made and more of the natural kind , So basically what you guys are saying is that if we find landform that looks like something is automatically aliens ??? what about mount rushmore ?
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That is a man made structure not saying that the "face" is man made but its just not relevant to get all of this contrversy about something that we barely know about .
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So Therefore, You guys really dont know what the structure is. none of us know what "it" really is
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, It might look like a face but aliens are just not relevant enough to believe that they actually did something of this nature
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i personally do Not believe in aliens , well would you blame me ? We have been to the moon, we have had a rover on mars for years ! and what do we get? nothing , just a rocky surface . no aliens , no water , No life period.
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Nevertheless, even though in paragraph 10 it says, "that that put out The maximum camera resoulution and each pixel spans 1.56 meters thats still not giving us any proof . We have been on this "Aliens Are Real" Stuff for a while now , and we dont have nothing that proves it.
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Don't you guys think that we should just cut it all out the picture ? we are wasting money on absoutely NOTHING.
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Finally , as I finish my statement I will just say that im'm not telling you guys to give up on your research , Not at all . but all I am saying is That If your gonna try and find these "aliens" of yours Atleast have some proof of their existance.
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I think that we should ude the popular vote for the president of the United State
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It will give the poeple of the United States the chance to say who they want in the congree and say who we wnt to be our presedent
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The Electoral College is not a democratic way of handleing it
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But on the down side it can make things very unorganized, having us worry about every little person we have to put into congress.
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In the United States we are a eaqual and fair contry, but with the Electoral College it does not us, the people of our fine nation the one to elect our presadent. It does not give us the freedom of making our own choices n who want to run our contry
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if we use the popular vote for the presadent of the united states it lets us, the people choose
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It lets us the poeple the right to use our own opion and our own thought on who should run this country. Every person in this cutry has a voivce they do and they should be able to speak with thier voice.
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If we use the Electoral Colledege it is not democratic
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It does not let us the people choose. The Electoral Colledge baseecely sees that the citizens of our contrys opions do not matter. They are saying that the Electoral Colledges votes matter the most those are the only once we are worrying about. But thats not true our opion does matter, we are what make up this amazing cuntry not just the Electoral Colledge.
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But you see there is up side to using the Electoral Colledge. It can keep us organized and what i mean by that is it will help the pople know who exactly all comes with the vote of the presedent. It also makes it alot esier to just vote for one group instead of voting for all 34 people. It will keep the people from accsadentaly voting for the wrong group. It will help the poeple make there desion on what they think best and not hat they have been told is the best choice.
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The popoular vote for presadent is the best way to go. It gives the pople a voice and the Ellectoral Colledge isnt democratic. But the Electoral Colledge keep us, the people organized and helps us make the right decition.
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What is the electoral college? is when the people voten for meeting the President and Vice President of the college, is a process, not a place and is a election of the president by a popular vote of qualified.
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The opinion of people is that is a good form of meeting a President and Vice President the reason for is good an electoral college is because having of discussion the work and your can see from who vote.
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One of the reason of What is the electral college? is that having of discussion the work. Acording to the lecture "
Does the Electoral College Work?
(source1:What is the electoral college?)
" say that " For this reason, in the following dicussion, the word "state" also refers to the district of Columbia.". Is that take one refers the District of Columbia that no is a bag idea tha is a good idea. The conclusion is that is good that saying the discussion of the work and that your can see from who vote.
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One of the reason of What is the electral college? is that your can see from who vote. Acording to the lecture "
Does the Electoral College Work?
(source1:What is the electoral college?)
" say that "The Electoral College consists of 538 electors. A masjority of 270 electoral votes is required to elect the President. Your state's entitled allotment of electors equals the number of members in its Congressional delegation: one for each member in the House of Representatives plus two for your Senators...." . No to all people that like this because no feel preparate for this so for this no vote. And the concluding for this reason is that no is only good knowing the discussion of the work that is good your can see from who vot and feel preparate for take a decission.
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More people say that no have a problem if have or no have a President or Vice president,this is no good because a President take decission importants and the Vice President help to President to take this decission. For this have take good decission in the moment of the vote. The presidential election is held every four years on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November.
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The conclution of this is that know of discussion of work and know for you one vote and this acording whint this.
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Our school is a very complex school, with different varieties of personalities. Some people may find it relaxing to help others while some may not have the time to do so. Community service such as picking up litter on a busy high way or walking dogs for people who don't have the ability to do so would, in my opinion, builds character. Community service will help many others while making the students stop and realize that when you help people they may be helped in return.
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I think it would be a good idea to offer community service but I do not think it should be mandatory.
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Helping others is very important and will not only help the person the services are being provided for but also the helper.
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All and all school is a place for education some may debate , but along with education you need responsibility which some students lack.
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Maybe offer certain community services as extra credit.
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hold a meeting 1 day a week during study hall/ advisory, or after school for dedicated students to brainstorm various ways to help the community.
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As the principle and the final say in all school aspects I think it would be very rewarding to every one if we started community service as a school.
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It would also give the school a better name and more and more people would want to volunteer and help the school out.
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We could hold monthly annual field trips to various highways or if that may cause unnecessary commotion even a retiring home and visit with the elders. Any little thing could help.
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All students should want to help others but the reality is not all care as much as others.
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I think its important to instill the proper traits in school but its not just up to us.
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I propose that twice a week we go from class room and recycle old and unused paper.
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As for mandatory community services I don't think it should be, but I do think it would be very appreciated to many to offer community services to the population. Parents might even want to get involved and before you know it others will want to start. If you start with something minor and work your way up others will want to participation when they thinks its easy. My proposal to you is that we offer many different variates along with different time fames to offer our time and support of those who are willing and ready to perform acts of pure good deeds to further better our community.
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The Electoral College has been established since the founding of our country. It is a system that has been tried and tested to work over the course of centuries.
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It should be upheld for it's ability to produce a solid outcome, and though it has the possibility of failing it's faults are not worse than the popular vote system
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