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because state senators are voting for our president and not us .
Claim
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As stated by Mr. Bradford Plumer in his article " The Indefensive Electoral College: Why even the best-laid defenses of the system are wrong ". " Under the electoral college system, voters vote not for the president, but for a slate of elcetors, who in turn elect the president. If you lived in Texas, for instance, and wanted to cote for [John] Kerry, you'd vote for a slate of 34 Democratic electors pledged to Kerry. On the off-chance that those electors won the statewide elcetion, they would go to Congress and Kerry would get 34 electoral votes." This claim tells how the president is choosen and its not by our votes its by the slate of electors votes.
Evidence
Adequate
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Also,the Electoral College should be removed from our way of voting; we should change it to election by popular vote for the president of the United States because the electoral college is a disaster waiting to happen
Claim
Adequate
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Mr. Bradford Plumer states in his " The Indefensive Electoral College: Why even the best-laid defenses of the system are wrong." " The single best argument against the electoral college is what we might call the disaster factor. The American people should consider themselves lucky that the 2000 fiasco was the biggest election crisis in a century; the system allows for much worse." The importance of this quote is because it tells us that there could be more disasters to come from the Electoral College.
Evidence
Adequate
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The Electoral College should stay our way of voting because with it we avoid run-off elections
Counterclaim
Adequate
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Mr. Richard A. Posner states in his article " In Defense of the Electoral College: Five reasons to keep our despised method of choosing the President" that we avoid run-off elections. " The Electoral College avoids the problem of elections in which no candidate receives a majority of the votes cast. For example, Nixon in 1968 and Clinton in 1992 both had only a 43 percent of plurality of the popular votes, while winning a majority in the Electotal College (301 and 370 electoral votes, respectively).There is pressure for run-off elections when no candidate wins a majority of the votes cast; that pressure, which would greatly complicate the presidential election process, is reduced by the Electoral College, which invariably produces a clear winner...." The importance in the counterclaim is that it shows that the Electoral College process had a clear winner.
Evidence
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Also, the Electoral College should stay our way of voting because of majority vote.
Counterclaim
Adequate
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The Office of the Federal Register states in their article " What is the Electoral College?" in the third paragraph. " The Electoral College consists of 538 electors. A majority of 270 electoral votes is required to elect the President. Your state's entitled allotment of electors equals the number of members in its Congressional delegation: one for each member in the House od Representatives plus two for your Senators...." This quote shows how each state has so many electors.
Evidence
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In conclusion, the Electoral College is both good and bad for our voting system. Some systems are wrong and some are right but its a hard decision to make with the Electoral College because its both wrong and right. We dont need no disasters in the voting system we already have enough disaters in the world that we live in.
Concluding Statement
Adequate
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We should keep the Electoral College but should change some of the rules.
Position
Adequate
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We should have a Congress that knows best about what we should do to make our country better.
Claim
Adequate
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They should be wise with age and should know better than to elect someone who is no good for this country.
Evidence
Adequate
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The votes should be runned by the people and they should have a say if the person running to be President or Vice President should run at all.
Claim
Ineffective
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The people have the majority vote, so they should be able to have a say. It does take longer but it is what's right.
Evidence
Ineffective
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We don't need to get rid of the Congress but we need to be better about who we put in the office to run our beautiful country.
Claim
Adequate
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They need to come and show us who they really are. Visit a town and get them your vote. The Electoral College has done some good things in the past but we should change it. The Congress needs to be made up of people who know what is right and which canadite to choose as our President.
Evidence
Ineffective
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If you are going to be in Congress and are voting for a specific party, then you need to stay in that party.
Claim
Ineffective
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The canadite is going to feel like you betrayed them after everything they have done for you. Just because your rich doesn't make it okay to betray what's right for this country. "But each party selects a slate of electors trusted to vote for the party's nominee (and that trust is rarely betrayed)" (In Defense of the Electoral College:Five reasons to keep our  despised method of choosing the President, Richard A. Posner). Through our troubled times, Congress has never stopped trying to make everything better. That is what this nation needs and hopes for.
Evidence
Ineffective
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Do not get rid of the Electoral College because it helps us who to choose to run our nation. Just make some adjustments and this country will be the best it can be.
Concluding Statement
Adequate
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Electoral college is a unfar way to vote for a president
Position
Adequate
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it make the government officals bias to the more popular states such as Flordia or Texas.
Claim
Adequate
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I think that we should get rid of the electoral college because it make the smaller states feel left out compared to larger states. If the president was elected by the population not by the "Government" how would it change the way the U.S. worked today.
Evidence
Adequate
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The text informs me that under the electoral college system, voters vote not for the president, but for the slate of electors who in turn elect the president.
Claim
Adequate
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In my opinion I think that there should be more than 3 votes or 4 votes for a state to elect a president. If the United States went to a population voting system the elections would be more fair to people that live in the smaller states.
Evidence
Adequate
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in 2000 the U.S. presidential race, Al Gore received more individual votes than George W. Bush nationwide, but Bush wont the election, receiving 271 electoral votes the Gore's 266. If the case of Gore losing the election a year later Bush went to war on Iraq.
Evidence
Adequate
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If the United States went to a population voting system the percentage of votes would increase dramaticly to cause a honest election.
Claim
Effective
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If the election where to happen next election cycle I think that it would change the way the United States votes. People are fooled by the president when they say "I will lower taxes, Protect the environment, or Stop the wars we are in" I thnk that it's a trick for them to win the votes they need to win. If the population voted for the president i think that the United States would not be in debt.
Evidence
Adequate
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The reason I think that the voting regulations is broken is that smaller states like Rhoad Island is a state that gets 3-10 votes and Claifonia gets 55 votes. If the only thing that make people happy is to be heard by the bigger people in life. If you where a 18 year old kid in a small state trying to make a  new product that could help millions but your in that state that wont let you be heard by the rest of the country.
Concluding Statement
Ineffective
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I believe we should change the election process. You should change it to an election of popular vote and give the people power to decide not on the electors for the candidates, but just on the candidates themselves.
Position
Adequate
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It would be a much easier process,
Claim
Adequate
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at the same time, a much less expensive way of electing presidents.
Claim
Adequate
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There was a Gallup poll in 2000 that even states that 60% of the population of voters prefered a direct election instead of using the electoral college. That year, Al Gore won the popular vote, but, thanks to the electoral college, he lost the presidency.
Evidence
Ineffective
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the electoral college is an unreliable way to elect the president
Claim
Adequate
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the people can't know for sure who chose the electors. Anyone could have chosen them!
Evidence
Adequate
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This is why we should change the election process to an election of popular vote and  let the people decide on the candidates themselves. It would save money by not having so many people in the electoral college to pay and it would be a much easier and fair process.
Concluding Statement
Adequate
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Changing the school policy to only letting students attend or play sports is good but bad at the same time
Position
Ineffective
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it can be good because you should keep up with your school work while your playing sports or other activities.
Claim
Adequate
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That is the main reason why you are going to school. If you cannot somehow keep up with any of your school work and your getting D' s and F' s then you shouldn't be playing any sports or be in any activities for the week or that period of time.
Evidence
Ineffective
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But having as C average and not being able to play sports i think is unreasonable. So having that policy is a good thing. But it can be bad at a certain point because having to have at least a B average is kind of high
Counterclaim
Adequate
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I think at least having a C average is pretty reasonable than having to have a B average. If the policy was having to have at least a B average to play any sports or other activities i wouldn't join any of them.
Concluding Statement
Ineffective
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The Declaration of Independence granted us the right to control our government. Thomas Jefferson once stated, "When a nations government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of its people to abolish it and establish a new government." After viewing the articles Source 1:"What Is the Electoral College?" by the Office of the Federal register, Source 2: "The Indefensible Electoral College: Why even the best-laid defenses of the system are wrong" by Bradford Plumer, and  Source 3:"In Defense of the Electoral College: Five reasons to keep our despised method of choosing the President" by Richard A. Posner it seems clear that the Electoral Colleges have lessened the power of the people in our nation. With the Electoral College method of selecting our nations new president the people of our nation become less empowered, they may cast their vote but the choice of president is never truly theirs. The Electoral Colleges drive people away from voting because they see the election as if their vote will not matter.
Lead
Effective
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To further empower the citizens of the United States the Electoral Colleges should be abolished.
Position
Effective
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Throughout our nations history the majority vote has lost due to being outvoted when it comes to Electoral Colleges. Because of the majoity vote losing out to Electoral Colleges, people have come to believe their vote will not matter in the long run
Claim
Effective
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In Source 2 Plumer declares, "faithless electors have occasionally refused to vote for their party's canidate". With this method of selection for our country's president, the vote is never certain. The slate of electors that the people essentially vote for may or may not stick to the original plan. This ties back into people losing hope that their vote will not matter because they trust the electors to vote their canidate into office, when the electors could go either way. Another key point is, the canidates may not campaign in states that have a lower number of electoral votes. In Source 1 the Office of the Federal Register also asserted, "Most states have a 'winner-take-all' system that awards all electors to the winning presidential canidate". Due to the Electoral College system being based off population some states have more of a say than others. Whenever a state decides their votes for Electoral Colleges the state typically contributes every vote it has to one canidate. When this occurs the state's people may be misrepresented.
Evidence
Effective
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Electoral Colleges do not reflect the democratic style of government we have had for hundreds of years
Claim
Effective
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In Source 3 Posner states, "it is the electors who elect the president, not the people". Ever since the United States has been around our lifestyle has been purely democratic. The people are supposed to the empowering body of our government and their voice is the one that should be heard. But since we have the Electoral College the voice of the people has become muffled. No longer is the presidential election a democratic event, but one that is decided through the votes of only a few chosen American citizens. Plumer observed in Source 2 that, "During the 2000 campaign, 17 states didn't see the canidates at all". If the people of America are truly part of our governing body then they must see the canidates and hear what they have to say. The Electoral College has driven canidates away from states that will not have much say. These states are then left to make a decision for themselves and decide based on their personal preference, they are never able to truly hear what these canidates may or may not have to offer.
Evidence
Effective
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On the other hand, Electoral Colleges do have a lack of uncertainty
Counterclaim
Adequate
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As Posner said in Source 3, "the dispute over the outcome of an Electoral College vote is possible but it's less likey than a dispute over the popular vote". The Electoral College provides the American people with a certainty of outcome. Whenever a state decides where its Electoral votes are going the canidate typically wins by a landslide electoral-vote victory.
Evidence
Adequate
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Although the Electoral College has a few appealing qualities, it is mostly an unfair system for the United States. The colleges should not have the power to decide the president, that should be the people that reside in the country's choice. Thomas Jefferson spoke of the people taking control of their country's government and the citizens of America should do just that if they are ever to escape the grasp of the Electoral Colleges
Concluding Statement
Effective
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Driverless cars used to be just a dream. Now that we have the technology to make "driverless cars" there seem to be more and more of a concern as to how these cars could be completely driverless.
Lead
Adequate
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I am against driverless cars
Position
Adequate
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the cars aren't completely driverless,
Claim
Effective
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there will have to be new laws made for these vehicles,
Claim
Effective
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there would be confusion for who to blame.
Claim
Effective
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In the article, the author gave examples as to how the cars were given features that'd make them seem driverless. There were, of course, radar features and motion sensors, but at the end of the day the author of the artilce said, "..None of the cars developed so far are completely driverless." Now of course they can still do the things needed to drive i. e. steer, speed up, and break, but there are still special sensors made to make sure that the driver still has their hands on the wheel. The author of the article then says, "This means the human driver must remain alert and be ready to take over when the situation requires."
Evidence
Effective
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In the ninth paragraph the author says, "Most driving laws focus on keeping drivers, passengers, and pedestrians safe...traffic laws are written with the assumption that the only safe car has a human driver in control at all times." This means that the laws now do not include anything regarding driverless cars, basically making them illegal to put on the road. Now they will have to go through a long process of making laws for these new types of cars.
Evidence
Adequate
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In the ninth paragraph of the article, it says, "...even if traffic laws change, new laws will be needed in order to cover liability in the case of an accident. If the technology fails and someone is injured, who is at fault--the driver or the manufacturer?" There would be too much confusion for the lawmakers and everyone else if there was an accident because although the manufacturers made the car, there was still a driver in the driver's seat, so who is to blame? This would cause a lot of conflict in court cases if there were accidents and someone was to be sued.
Evidence
Effective
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I am against driverless cars because the cars aren't completely driverless, there will have to be new laws made for these vehicles, and there would be confusion for who to blame. The idea of driverless cars is a great idea, indeed, but there would be just too much confusion and conflict regarding these.
Concluding Statement
Effective
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electrol college is not just a college it is a process,  The electoral college is a process that consist of the selection of the electors,  it started in the founding fathers established in the constitution as a comprise between election of the president . this means that the electorol college should stay this college is more than just any old college its history ,its in the constitution this college should not be gone this college should be honored. these electorals mainly select the votes for the people in the white house like the president and vice predident. our state is entitled allotment of electors equals the nuimber of memebers in the congressional delegation 
Lead
Adequate
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i want electoral college to stay
Position
Adequate
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they are good at things for the state
Claim
Ineffective
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the electors college plays a big role in our state
Claim
Ineffective
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under the 23 amendment of the constitution , the district of columbia is allocated 3 electors and a treated like a state for purpose of the electoral college . this means that because of the electoral college the district of columbia is treated like a state . so electoral college  is the reason why some districts are called a state why take this type of college away if this has such a big role in alot of things to do with the congress . with out the electoral college they wouldnt have presidents or any thing . in every election the electors are always there in every president election every president have their own group of electors behind them . they are joined by a canidates political party
Evidence
Ineffective
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u may wonder how the electors work because all u do is see them behind the prsident well the process is hard and they want students who wants to be an elector to get ready on what they are about to get in to . it first start off by the u choosing the president when u choose the president u choose the group of electors this means when you choose the president the electors goes with him or her , most states have winner takes all system that awards all electors to the winng pesidental canidate's electors . after the election the govoner pepares a 'certificae of ascertainment'. this means that that it is listing all of the canidates who ran for president in your state along with names of their respective electors . the electors go through a long process . and the college wants the studentsa to know all the things they need to before they become electors.
Evidence
Ineffective
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the electors deserve to have a college someone might want to be an elector
Claim
Ineffective
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it wouldnt be anything with out electors they do more than just stand behind the president they do more they help the president the president we have today wouldnt be able to run for president without a group of electors . and they need a college for someone who wants to be an elector. this college should be honored to be in a program like that these electors are needed in our country with out electors we would have nothing if we didnt have electors the electoral college is widely know as an non democratic method of selecting a president that outa be by declaring the canidate who recieves the most popular votes the winner .
Evidence
Ineffective
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these are all the reasons why we need the electors program . because they play in a big role of our country and dthey also good for our state and .l so we need these progems to show young student that being an elector is not easy itbis very hard and a long process and we need to show students how the experience is and they also need to be knowleged trained to do stuff that will make our country better . because if they mess up  on one little thing its an automatic fire for them . we need these colleges because it plays a big role and it reuires the votes. of the president meaining it helps the president win .
Concluding Statement
Adequate
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It has come to my attention the many problems that the Electoral College has. I would like to ask that we change to election by popular vote for the President of the United States.
Lead
Effective
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You see, not only is the Electoral College unfair, but it also creates a lie that tricks everyone into believeing that our President was the one that the majority of America voted for, when that is not always the case.
Position
Effective
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First off, the fact that the number of electors for each state relies on the number of members in it's Congressional delegation is just illogical.
Claim
Effective
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lets say Florida has twenty because of its size, and California has fifty. if both states want to vote for someone different, then California is going to win only because of the size and population difference. So really, you aren't voting for the president...you're voting for the electors who will choose the president.
Evidence
Effective
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An argument can be made against this...that the electors that you give your vote to will be trustworthy and vote for the person that your party wants.
Counterclaim
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How does that give us a say though? For example, as it says in the article, Al Gore was the president that the majority of America voted for in 2000...he was the one that everyone wanted. Yet he lost the presidency because of this form of voting. This is a free country, or so we're told, so we need to be given the right of popular vote.
Rebuttal
Effective
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Furthermore, the Electoral College system is flawed...there are millions of people in America and yet only 538 votes are counted
Claim
Effective
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There is no way to be assured that the person you voted for, or anyone else, was selected. We need to ask ourselves what the best thing is for our country... letting everybody be dissapointed in who was voted for, or seeing that they got what they spent time on going and voting on. This isn't just a captain for a football team, or a manager at work. This is the president of the United States, and he or she will be running our country for 4 years or even longer, so we need to question this method of voting. We are a unified country, and our unity shows what we want as a country..we shouldn't have one thing chosen and get something completely different in return. The election by popular voting would be a better overall choice for our country.
Evidence
Adequate
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All in all, arguments can be made both ways...for the Electoral College process or against it. The citizens of America deserve the very best person to lead them, and that's exactly who we should get...the one that America votes for. I know that there are more efficient and fair ways to do this, all we need to do is use them. At the end of the day though, using the election by popular vote would ensure that everyone would be 100% sure that their vote went for who they wanted, and that's what counts.
Concluding Statement
Effective
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I don't think students of any school should have to do community service if they don't want to.
Position
Adequate
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Community service takes a lot out of the day.
Claim
Adequate
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What if the students other things to do at home. Most students at our school play sports after school, and if they are playing spots how are they going to do community service?
Evidence
Adequate
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I know it is great to help out the community,
Counterclaim
Adequate
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but we should be able to do it when we want to.
Rebuttal
Adequate
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I understand that if a student have to have some kind of punishment and have to community service
Counterclaim
Adequate
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But I don't think we should have to pick up after other students they should pick up after themselves.
Rebuttal
Ineffective
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What time does all of this starts? Because some students have to be at home at a certain time. And if we had to do it after we got home from playing sports it would be too dark to see how to do anything.
Evidence
Adequate
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I know it is great to help your to but I really don't should have to do communit
Concluding Statement
Ineffective
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The students should be required perform community. This is because, the students will need to know about their community and what goes on.
Position
Adequate
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This is also because, helping the community is important, it helps them deal with real-world problems
Claim
Adequate
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help develop skills for them.
Claim
Adequate
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It they are the future, they need to have experiences outside of the school. They should help, so they can be the leaders of the future.
Evidence
Adequate
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For example, doing community service by baby sitting, they will have experiences on taking care of their own child or children when they have them. With experiences at a young age, they will have known what it is like to take care of they child.
Evidence
Adequate
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Another example is if the student(s) do community service at a recycling factory, they learn about what is going on in the world and what is the amount of waste humans produce in their country or other counties. Which in turn will lead them to recycle more, which helps the environment and the animals who live there. The student could also have relatives at another country which the can tell them about the amount of waste produced there and what could happen to the world if they don't. Which leads to more recycling, and that helps the world.
Evidence
Effective
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for those who believe that community service is a waste of their time
Counterclaim
Adequate
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they don't think about others, they think only for themselves. And that can lead to a life of crime, with selfish desires for what others have.
Rebuttal
Adequate
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For example, that person could want a necklace that another wants and they ask and the person says no, that person can feel negative desires for that person. That could lead to stealing the item itself, murdering the person and/or their family members, and/or robbing the store where the person got it from because they cannot afford the item
Evidence
Ineffective
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The reason people should have to perform community service are listed above. And also, this could lead to a terrible community in the future. And nobody would want that. They would want a tight community. And what a tight community needs is community service done.
Concluding Statement
Adequate
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It has recently come to my attetnion as I study our states voting system, that we as Americans do not have enough word in who we have as our leader. In a plethora amount of documents from the United States, and our Consitution it states all men are creted equal, when in all relaity we are allowing the Electoral College have more say in who our president rather than we do.
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Not only does the Electoral College have more say in our President, but it alllows the President to only go to states that they feel is nessisary to go to get the vote.
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It also gives less say to the smaller states making the people there feel there vote doesnt count, allowing them to vote for any party.
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If we change our voting system we can vote for our leader rather than us voting for the slate of electors, and have the most popular leader of our country be our president.
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The first reason i feel we should overthrow the Electoral College is becasue it is discriminating states votes based on there sizes.
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