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How come they didn’t have that same attitude with B Netanyahu and their genocide 🥹
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2024-09-08
That navy that they keep losing to a country without one? Those nukes that only existed on paper as the country collapsed? Those tanks and cutting-edge hardware they allegedly had seems to have evaporated in favor of T65's and earlier. When HIMARS from the 70s, Stingers from the 80s, and stick-on PGM kits from the 90s can turn the tide against you, I shudder to think what the F-16's they just got can do. Vatnik's gonna vatnik tho.
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2024-09-08
With the hindsight of 2022 I think you could argue that maintaining that arsenal would have been one of the most important things for them.
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2024-09-08
Do the right thing, drug cartels.
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2024-09-08
It’s not a moral conundrum, it’s a strategic problem
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2024-09-08
I did my part!
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2024-09-08
I’m not sure if you know this, but the world doesn’t revolve around the US.
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2024-09-08
🤣
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2024-09-08
Depends if you count the oil that flows between the US and Canada. There's some oddity about it I can't remember that leads me to believe it shouldn't be counted fully.
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2024-09-08
Bro is just coming to cut a deal with the cartels
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2024-09-08
I meant the agents, starting a gunfight is just going to get them killed and unless there's a getaway plane within a few hundred meters they're not going anywhere
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2024-09-08
Why? The US is not a signatory to the ICC, Israel is a US ally, and there is no arrest warrant for Netanyahu.
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2024-09-08
The only thing that the US and Russia agree on is that the ICC is a joke lmao
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2024-09-08
Welcome to humanity, this is best we can do.
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2024-09-08
Mexico should never talk about Israel ever again. It shows how hypocritical their government is. Wow so they accuse Israel of warcrimes then invite THE russian war criminal? Absolutely disgusting and hypocritical. But what can you expect from a narco state masquerading as a country.
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2024-09-08
Why not? If it helps procecute war criminals in the vast majority of other countries, why should we not use that? The ICC has led to arrests of African war criminals, for example, which is a humanitarian win for everybody and beneficial to that continent's development. It doesnt have to be all or nothing. Also, there is a major factor in international law that encourages us to respect progressive legal concepts - customary international law. Basically, if the whole world agrees to adopt legal concepts and acknowledges these to represent the current legal world order, then the USA has no choice but to eventually adopt these concepts as well to keep being a part of the international community. For example, France has not ratified the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, but by now they have to follow the parts of that treaty that have become customary international law. You do not build legal certainty by going around and promoting everybody to defy it, as it will only lead to might-makes-right politics. Let us please develop international relations to ensure a peaceful future for the human race.
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2024-09-08
The USA is the largest Superpower they get to make their own rules.
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2024-09-08
Well Netanyahu should be. So should Hamas And Netanyahu should be removed from influencing our politicians
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2024-09-08
You say people don’t understand geo politics but you imply Russia would nuke Mexico if they arrest Putin?
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2024-09-08
We’re not in their pockets. We just have good relationships with many countries including Russia and we’re not about to change things because of external pressures. We’re not your puppets.
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2024-09-08
If putin came to the U.S scheduled we would not arrest him. Do people forget Russia still has nukes.
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2024-09-08
What US policies are Mexicans so upset with the US about that they want to embrace Russia?
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2024-09-08
Well then I have great news for you. In casual conversation you can just prepend the "In my opinion" part in your mind like the rest of us do.
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2024-09-08
Shii I mean they got a cartel group calling they selfs “Los Rusos” which they do deals with the Russian mafia 😭
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2024-09-08
so bully us into doing what you want? We’re a sovereign country sir.
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2024-09-08
Those nukes had parts sold off them a decade ago or more..... Most do not work...
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2024-09-08
Who is Zenlensky to give order to the Mexican President, anyway?
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2024-09-08
If a nuclear war breaks out those are pretty pointless by that point anyway though? Your aircraft carriers wont do much one nukes are dropping left-right..
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2024-09-08
Putin is visiting Mexico I sorta doubt that but ok
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2024-09-08
Thats the point
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2024-09-08
Russia’s Putin sent me spiraling, but im also high
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2024-09-08
Weak sauce. I couldn’t imagine a better way to boost relations with the USA then taking him into custody and handing over the ICC. Mexico would be protected and lauded.
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2024-09-08
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gulf-cartel-apologizes-americans-are-kidnapped-killed-mexico-rcna74242 The cartel executed the soldiers responsible for killing the Americans and left their bodies out with an apology
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2024-09-08
LOL. The remaining Russian leadership would not destroy their children and grandchildren's future for Putin. Killing him (an arrest would be pointless) would be a gift for whomever emerged from the initial chaos both in terms of turning things around internationally, and shoring up support internally. 1. They can end the war in Ukraine immediately and blame literally everything on a dead man unable to defend himself. 2. And yet, they could still point to the US, Ukraine, and NATO as terrible bullies that only the new leadership can protect the Russian people from. And remember, that country has gone through multiple successful and unsuccessful coup attempts in the post-atomic era, as well the total collapse of their economic and political system simultaneously. Never once throughout any of that did start playing hard and fast with nukes. But the reality is, Putin is not setting foot in North America for the foreseeable future. This is just a rouse to further damage US-Mexico relations.
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2024-09-08
there' zero evidence Putin has a body double, just redditors parroting 'body double'.
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2024-09-08
There’s no ICC arrest warrant for him.
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2024-09-08
there's nobody credible who says Putin has a body double, zero evidence. just redditors parroting 'body double'.
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2024-09-08
Only 45 countries sanctions Russia, that's 45 out of 195 countries. The majority doesn't want him dead, the majority gladly buys Russian oil and indirectly helps Putin in the war.
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2024-09-08
Que el fuck, Mexico?
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2024-09-08
Honestly, I wonder what sort of payment would need to be made to a Mexican Cartel to make that happen on the visit? Like what if Ukraine offered a Cartel $20B to take out Putin on his visit. That has to be enough right?
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2024-09-08
he has an army of them for sure
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2024-09-08
He isn't superman. Look how easily Prigozhin advanced toward Moscow when the Army of Russia largely stood aside. The institutions that keep the populace in check are made up of the populace. Even wealth isn't power itself, it must be combined with greed of other individuals that trade their power for some of the wealth.
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2024-09-08
Yeah…it doesn’t seem like you understand how autocracies and dictators work…
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2024-09-08
I mean, if Zelenskyy brings some SBU dudes with him and Trump provides his SS team for Putin's security, we can have the perfect mix.
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2024-09-08
Mexico is smart 
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2024-09-08
Honestly you could have a squad of F-16's from Urkaine in the Area and have a couple of F-22's almost invisible to ensure the job is complete.
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2024-09-08
You did not get a word bro said 😭
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2024-09-08
ironic of you to lecture about naivity while you proceed to yap about "nuclear war with Mexico" because of an arrest so you claim that a country would glass other country because of president arrest? bruh
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2024-09-08
Because when you come off sounding racist and “you’re too poor, let one of us richies handle it” it fucks shit up for everyone and they want to screw us even more why can’t you people get that through your head
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2024-09-08
Cartels combined income is larger than Mexico's defense budget. Their capacity to corrupt or use violence is literally unprecedented. Plata or plomo, or plomo o plomo, are very simple concepts that seem to elude you guys. Must be nice to shit on ppl from the comfort of your chair. We are not talking about a cop taking a bribe for a red light here. It isn't that hard
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2024-09-08
Mexico is part of the ICC, which has an arrest warrant out for Putin. But expecting a state to arrest a high-profile, violent criminal that not only is known for protecting them, but is also run by them, is silly
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2024-09-08
Ok so the Israeli government is openly discussing starving 2M people in Gaza but now the AP is a tiktok source. Enjoy your hasbara tag on reddit moving forward Next genocide apologist please!
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2024-09-08
would be crazy if the cjng cartel would deal with the situation
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2024-09-08
Yeah but if it was u/Tuxyl he would have arrested Putin on the spot by himself.
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2024-09-08
Why he going to Mexico? Burritos??
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2024-09-08
The TV show The Americans portrayed it in one episode
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2024-09-08
“The cartels” I hope Russia reduces your country to ashes
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2024-09-08
Peak reddit armchair foreign analysis right here, almost good enough for a 1960's newscaster.
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2024-09-08
No, you say he'll be arrested, and then he doesn't come, and then you don't have to arrest him and get embroiled in a massive geopolitical mess.
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2024-09-08
FEED HIM TO THE CARTELS
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2024-09-08
but I can't blame a guy for asking. Considering he's completely right about what *should* happen the moment Putin steps off the ground he dictates.
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2024-09-08
Heads of state are legitimate targets in armed conflict under international law. US can’t (openly) do it directly, but they can sure as hell ‘support’ a Ukrainian hit.
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2024-09-08
Too good of an opportunity for Ukraine to send in an elite squad to capture him. Not sure how Mexico would react but if they manage bring him to the US then he'll never leave.
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2024-09-08
Not really tho, the problem with dictatorships is that if you topple the king there is no clear successor to power. We'd have a death of Stalin fiasco in Moscow while Ukraine would be able to reclaim lost land in the east
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2024-09-08
Your serious? Putin has fanatics. He has people 100% loyal to him that are naive and brainwashed. Have you heard of Jonestown before? When 900 people killed themselves all off the word of 1 guy? You can't just wave away and say "religious zealots" when that may very be the person Putin would put in place if he ever visited a country that might try and arrest him. You are rolling a dice that someone crazy enough would not be in control of that button. Some people don't have families or even care about their own life. It would not be hard for Putin to find someone with the help of the KGB who would be 100% loyal to him and only him.
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2024-09-08
"We Romanovs have our legacy to consider\~" "I don't give a wooden nickel about your legacy!"
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2024-09-08
>He has people 100% loyal to him that are naive and brainwashed. >Have you heard of Jonestown before? When 900 people killed themselves all off the word of 1 guy? Imagine being so fucking stupid that you think this is the sort of person that even Putin would allow any modicum of control over their nuclear arsenal. Oh wait, you don't. You are just that fucking stupid.
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2024-09-08
and no comment about Putin or anyone else. And how would NEtanyahu be removed from influencing our politicians? He is democratically elected?
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2024-09-08
found the hamas supporter and no he hasn't. Hamas targets children in Israel and then hides behind them to do more attacks. the hamas harries have showed up.
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2024-09-08
You mean Sean penn
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2024-09-08
If Mexico did arrest Putin it would be "birds away".
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2024-09-08
There are 15,000-20,000 dead hamas. Hamas hides behind civilians. How else is Israel supposed to fight hamas when they hide behind civilians? in your mind israel should just accept attacks from hamas and do nothing back. Russia has killed far more than 20,000 civilians.
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2024-09-08
Jesus Christ, AMLO's and his ilk's insecurity drips from their every word. *"We're not your puppets."* How the hell is not having friendly relations with a de facto dictator that wages unprovoked war against democratic nations being anyone's "puppet"?
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2024-09-08
Netanyahu is democratically elected. Hamas hides behind civilians. If israel does not fight hamas, then they have to take murder after murder and not respond. Putin launched an invasion of a country and targets civilians. People like this will never hear the truth. People who say this think israel should not exist and you are shocked that they fight back.
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2024-09-08
Yes I fully believe it is a chance/risk he would be willing to take if he was for some reason forced to go to a country that might arrest him. Can just agree to disagree. You believe with 100% certainty that if Putin gets arrested Russia won't launch any Nukes. I believe it is not 100% I believe it's at least 1% or more which is not worth the risk when you are talking about something that will kill billions of people and honestly might set us back 100 years.
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2024-09-08
Probably a body double going to Mexico. Real Putin is too afraid to step out of bunker.
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2024-09-08
Ukraine asked and the ICC has a warrant which obliges signatories to arrest the wanted person. But yes, I did say *ideally* there would be consequences
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2024-09-08
You know, if America doesn't respect the ICC, we Americans shouldn't be surprised when other countries don't respect it either. America sets a precedent when it does things like the Hague invasion act. If we wanted mexico to respect the ICC and arrest Putin, we should send Bush to the Hague.
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2024-09-08
So you're saying he'll get the red light?
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2024-09-08
> the most imperialistic far-right country in the world We already have good relationships with the US. We just don't want to make another empire angry so we're diplomatically neutral.
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2024-09-08
A non-corrupt country would never invite Putin to anything.
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2024-09-08
An F22 firing an AIM120D over the Atlantic would be fine imo.
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2024-09-08
It is the obligation of Mexico to enforce Mexican law, so Mexican courts. That’s how the law works. This is like asking “Who’s going to enforce the US constitution lmao”. The US justice system and courts, dumbass.
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2024-09-08
Not true. You're leaving out the entire context regarding U.S. meddling in Latin America's affairs for the last century. Mexico doesn't idolize dictators, they value and support state sovereignty regardless of who's in power due to their own history with foreign nations invading and interfering in the country.
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2024-09-08
Gravity is the number one killer of Russian officials
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2024-09-08
This is not affecting U.S.-Mexico relations lol. Mexico is becoming more and more important to the U.S. every year as we keep moving away from China.
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2024-09-08
I was secretly hoping this was why Bibi was invited. What a waste.
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2024-09-08
lol right? No one arrested Omar al-Bashir, they sure as hell won’t arrest Putin.
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2024-09-08
Ukraine should maybe head to Mexico and provide a welcome party for Putin for when he arrives
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2024-09-08
There needs to be neutral forums for world leaders to meet. Even, or especially, during wars. This war won't end without some sort of resolution. Putin can keep pumping out cannon fodder and we can keep supplying Ukraine. Having communications with both sides at least gives us a chance at coming to a white peace. That peace might not be a full victory for Ukraine. It might come at the cost of them not retaking Crimea or even losing some minor territory as a way for Russia to be able to claim a meaningless victory to their people. But we have to accept that while Ukraine is doing very well compared to what is expected, they are starting to run out of manpower to even operate the equipment we are giving them. They might not be able to manage a full victory.
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2024-09-08
The ICC doesn't even have an arrest warrant against Netanyahu so your entire comment falls apart
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2024-09-08
Yeah, it is very problematic. Last I recall neither the bullets nor weapons were assembled in Mexico, fun fact. Nevertheless your original comment claimed many parts of Mexico are destroyed. I’m going to assume many people are saying that? The best people. Everyone knows it, but they don’t like it when you say it but it’s true.
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2024-09-08
Mafia Clan meets Mafia Clan naive to think they will beaching international law.
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2024-09-08
YOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO!? YEEEEEHAAAAAW
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2024-09-08
Would be quite interesting if they place them by order of name.. both Vladimirs standing next to each other…
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2024-09-08
“obligations”…”Mexico should have” - the way I see it, everyone acts one what’s convenient to them. Why should Mexico be any different. If there is such a thing as an arrest warrant for Putin, let European countries who are part of the ICC to hunt him down and arrest him already regardless if he is setting foot in their country or not. End it already. This all happened because no one wanted to step in and defy Putin when they could have.
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2024-09-08
Short of launching nukes, how would Russia wage war against Mexico? Send troops on United Airlines? Ship tanks via Fedex? They have no method of getting men and equipment there to fight the war.
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2024-09-08
That was old Mexico, after 1982 if turned into a full American colony
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2024-09-08
I know what I’m talking about, in some parts of the country the leader of the local cartel and the mayor co rule the cities, the cartel also picks the people running to offices. That’s not a simple guerrilla, their military training is lacking certainly but they are very well entrenched into the government
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2024-09-08
There is a show with James Franco cant remember whats its called but its the date Kennedy was shot so November something of 63. 11/??/63. Just google the date anyway the show fellows this guy (Franco) goes back in time and tries to stop it
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