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This made me lol, good job
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2024-12-06
Fines (both corporate and personal) should be based on a percentage of gross income. Some guy in Finland got fined $130k for speeding last year because it's based on income. He wasn't even going that fast. Fine Apple or Google 10% of gross revenue and I guarantee things will change. If the fine doesn't hurt then it doesn't dissuade, and that pain point comes at different levels for each person and organization.
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2024-12-06
I thought they straight up denied that they’re working on that
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2024-12-06
In their *find out* era
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2024-12-06
They're in their *find out* era
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2024-12-06
Shit, I've found out I've been booked onto a 787-9 flight to get to a new job and it's making me anxious as hell because it's a Boeing.
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2024-12-06
I'm not saying that is a bad idea, but I wonder what the percentage chance of a crash in an airplane is and what the percentage chance of a crash in a car is. The Boeing issues are high visibility but is the chance of a crash that much more than your trip to the grocery store?
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2024-12-06
> Some airfare booking sites now offer "no 737 max" or even "no boeing" filters when searching for flights. Airlines are obviously going to be aware that their customers are so wary of Boeing planes that some are avoiding them. They can change models as needed (and often do), so those filters aren't super meaningful... but yeah I definitely pick non-Max flights whenever possible.
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2024-12-06
MBAs are good at only one thing: ruining things we love for short term shareholder value.
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2024-12-06
That's called progress. Whether we were complaining about not enough wheat or corn being grown, or not enough safety features for one of the safest ways to travel, people will find a way to complain about something(which is why communism will never work, because humans inherently always want more)
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2024-12-06
Watch out - they may murder the analysts who ‘leaked’ this info to the public
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2024-12-06
The dude you are replying to was absolutely correct, though. Even if this instance is true. For your personal well being, do not love reddit because you believe the random comments are true special insight. Places like ask historians delete any comments without proper citations and a known credentialed poster, which is a different matter and wonderful.
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2024-12-06
No, that’s a common meme that reddit likes to say and has little to do with this current situation.
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2024-12-06
Some ways yes, some ways no. The 1984 ad gets a lot of publicity, but it didn't actually lead to many sales. The successes just get more attention than the failures.
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2024-12-06
Watch stupid ass Canada bail them out
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2024-12-06
Embraer denied it, but it wouldn’t be the first time an OEM denied something that was true.
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2024-12-06
Gaslighting?! GE, Twitter, Boeing (the subject of this article, for Pete’s sake!) How are they doing, *as a company*? Are they the respected paragons of their industries they once were? Or are they hollow shells that don’t do much but provide shareholder value? And yes, “providing value to shareholders” *is* the duty of a publicly traded company, but until Jack Welch came along, everyone assumed one did so by providing a superior product or service. Fucking with the financials (such as—oh, I don’t know—firing 10% of the workforce every year) is always going to be detrimental to the health and long-term viability of the company, regardless of your personal feelings on the matter. Furthermore, the fact that you would look at a tactic like stack ranking and think, “That sounds like a good idea,” shows just how pernicious Welch’s success actually was. The *only* thing that matters is next quarter’s shareholder report, cuz, ya know, after we completely fuck up this company, we’ll just move on to the next one. It is a sickness in American corporate culture which lead to its own downfall. Short-sighted greed, man, you should be careful.
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2024-12-06
But he's not a "product" guy, beyond saying "it needs to do this"
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2024-12-06
This is even more AI sounding.
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2024-12-06
And the cei gets to step down with a golden parachute
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2024-12-06
> Maybe now they're starting to understand why OG Boeing cared so much about quality and safety. A-hahahaha! Err, no. The boy-genius MBAs will only ever understand that everyone was very mean to them and it isn't fair and they're going to take their golden parachutes and go sulk.
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2024-12-06
Read yesterday that Ukraine is doing its own version of glide bombs because the American supplied conversion kits don't work well. Boeing makes those kits.
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2024-12-06
To the surprise of no-one.
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2024-12-06
TJ Maxx would like a word
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2024-12-06
Redditors: "I basically slack off at work anyway, I spend maybe 5 hours per week working" Also redditors: "lul if you fire people company go burn burn"
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2024-12-06
22% of the adults in SC can barely write their own name or read and understand sentences with more than 4 words. Even more worrying is that somehow of the people who have a bachelors or higher 5% are also in this group. But in general of the people with a bachelors or higher 74% have a literacy level of 3/5 or higher. About the national average.
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2024-12-06
Modern Wall Street C-suits need to relearn the lesson. the losses sustained by poor quality and major safety issues, are always orders of magnitude more than the cost cutting on the production line. the best argument for integrating a strong safety and responsibility culture in the workplace is the economic one. it is just good business.
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2024-12-06
The airlines won't... that's why there's no orders.
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2024-12-06
Ya love to see it.
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2024-12-06
> This has been perverted to mean profits at all cost No, it does not mean this. Please stop repeating this, it's a lie that's told on reddit.
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2024-12-06
When shareholders run the company.
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2024-12-06
There are plenty of companies that don't do that. Cocacola for instance is an example of a business that just keeps making cocacola. it doesn't grow that much other than via aquisition, and it's shareholders are among the wealthiest people in the world.
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2024-12-06
They fucked up their space program too and opened the door for SpaceX to step in by massively cutting R&D. We're the only game in town, they said.
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2024-12-06
it appears that Boeing also failed to deliver any jets for a second straight month.
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2024-12-06
I've learned over the past couple years that I like the Embraers and Bombardiers. Quiet little roller coasters of the sky
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2024-12-06
Well, the only ones who can float to the top by that system are sociopaths, by design.
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2024-12-06
Point 2 is a crazy one I don't understand at all but happens SO much. You wouldn't put a junior dev in charge of Google tech... But MBAs sure...
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2024-12-06
I know, I fucked up. I use AI for spell check and flow. Forgot to proofread the rest. So best to own the mistake and make it worse.
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2024-12-06
Let it fall some more. It’s a good buy opportunity for Boeing stock. Boeing is fail proof. Too many government contracts and too much top secret tech to let fail.
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2024-12-06
This is my biggest problem with reddit's anti calls-for-violence policies. Plenty of people truly deserve to die.
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2024-12-06
So having multiple aircraft fall from the sky because of poor build quality AND murdering multiple whistleblowers will have a negative impact on your bottom line? Duly noted
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2024-12-06
If its a Boeing im not going.
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2024-12-06
To add on BMW makes all of their SUVs for the world at their plant in SC. I'm pretty sure this is more a Boeing problem than a SC problem. And I'm from NC so I will gladly shit on SC for anything.
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2024-12-06
Educate yourself please, and look at the last 500 years of evidence. If what you say was true there wouldn’t be such abrasive resistance to degrowth. Or maybe you’re just a troll being a 120 day account; wasting no time to call me a socialist as a negative connotation without knowing anything could be a sign of that.
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2024-12-06
Interesting article but not super in depth. I wish the author listed out other failings of Welch at the end.
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2024-12-06
[Relevant video](https://www.instagram.com/podcastbutoutside/reel/CjO1INnp7U7/)
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2024-12-06
They just need to send hitters to get to the purchasing managers, problem solved
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2024-12-06
"We can't contract kill our way outta this one, boys."
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2024-12-06
Delta TechOps also sells maintenance/repair services to cargo and passenger carriers from all over the world and that seems to make up for it and might even be a source of revenue.
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2024-12-06
I wonder if Boeing cares. They make huge bank from their various military contracts anyway, because the way those are set up, it's a firehose of money from the government and it can't be shut off without individual congressman losing votes for killing jobs in their states.
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2024-12-06
where's the short sellers
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2024-12-06
At least it is only the sales tumbling instead of another plane.
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2024-12-06
My prediction: a new startup will come on the scene to take their market share with an emphasis on how safe the planes are. In 5 years they’ll find they’re actually worse than the original Boeing planes and the CEO will retire in disgrace with a multi-billion dollar golden parachute.
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2024-12-06
Corporations are under extreme pressure to provide consistent returns to investors, 3-5%ish year after year, this becomes exponential as it adds up btw. They do this by growing and expanding, but there are finite resources and finite consumer bases so they look at ways of cutting costs and boosting productivity instead: lower quality materials, lower wages, more employee responsibility with less benefits, etc. This is where we’re at now and it’s abundantly clear. They also create shady tactics like planned obsolescence and artificial scarcity for these reasons. It’s like a couple years ago when Netflix was getting hammered because they had saturated the number of subscribers and were struggling to grow any more. What we’re seeing with Boeing is just another example of cutting costs to please investors and it’s coming back to haunt them. The cracks are showing because many large companiescsimply cannot grow anymore.
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2024-12-06
It’s why I bought Boeing stock two weeks ago, the upside over the next couple of years is very high. It seems like they are finally taking safety seriously, and that will eliminate the downside pressure over the next year or two. Then they just sit back and collect on the hundreds of billions of dollars of orders on their order book over the next ten years. 
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2024-12-06
They really should stop paying CEOs in stock. I know they offered to get the CEO vested in the company's future; but as you point out, the future is only as long as they have to wait to sell their stock. Perhaps CEOs should be paid a residual or annuity based on the company's stock price instead. That would incentivize them to want the company to be healthy over the long run.
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2024-12-06
It’s ok, they saved some money totally worth it
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2024-12-06
That might have been true 150 years ago, 100 later after societal improvements a man was able to provide for a family of 4, buy a house, have health insurance, pension, and vacation. Giving voice and including the women and minorities into the work force alongside the men should have improved economic benefit *for everyone* that was already present for the men. I want for the average joe and Jane to benefit from all the wealth that is being created by them. How were the companies of yesteryear able to afford all the benefits I stated above, but 21st century corporations can’t? Why are stock buybacks allowed after claiming record profits year after year and then they are firing workers? Why can apple skirt taxes by incorporating in Ireland and leasing the name to a European corporation who then sells it to the American Apple company? I’m just a average joe. However less that a week ago, one of the wealthiest Americans Warren buffet stated if the top 800 companies payed their fair share of taxes, no American would pay any income tax.
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2024-12-06
I think part of it comes from careful fleet management, as in they'll buy older aircraft instead of shiny new aircraft. Think "buy a Honda-certified 2015 Civic" versus "buy a brand new 2024 Honda Civic". They've also acquired some of their fleet from acquisitions; pretty sure there are still some former Northwest airframes flying around. They also do aircraft maintenance for a few hundred other organizations. They are among the best in the industry and I'm sure they cost substantially more than Discount Frank's Plane-O-Rama "Home of the $49.99 Annual". All that said, they are moving towards consolidation. They just discontinued the last of the MD-xx within the last five years and I'm pretty sure the 717 and 767 are on the chopping block. Last I heard, they want to go to a majority Airbus fleet, and I can understand why.
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2024-12-06
It's suppose to take 45 minutes, I'm done in 5. Stick that up your dojo.
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2024-12-06
Oh ok, well you said so so I guess I’ll just ignore the example empirical evidence around me… What a dumb and unconvincing rebuttal. We live in a world of pursuing consistent quarterly profits, that may not have been the intention but that’s the reality.
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2024-12-06
Some companies cannot grow more but others will. Few companies are THAT old actually and many previously huge ones will die and others will take their place. The world is still full of people who are far from having the same living standard as we do for example. Now the worry is of course resources and how much we fuck up our planet in the process. On the other hand moving towards greener technology is also growth.
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2024-12-06
Apples new tandem OLED screens are pretty damn good. Hopefully we can get that tech in some of today’s monitors, QD-OLED and WOLED aren’t cutting it.
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2024-12-06
>Go work at Starbucks making coffee for the people who have real jobs. Economic Big Brain thinks exchanging services for money isn't a job
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2024-12-06
And the they murdered 2 whistleblowers (so far)
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2024-12-06
which sites allow this? I've been using skyscanner but I don't see the option there. Was wondering when we'd have the ability to blacklist boeing after all the scandals. Thought it was weird I never really had a choice
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2024-12-06
About 50,000 Boeing flights per day in the world, and you think yours might be the one next month? Okay. I get that Boeing's QC may not be what it used to be, but honestly, one bad news article per month compared to the number of Tesla crashes per year... (Tesla Autopilot was involved in 736 crashes since 2019, including 17 fatalities.) I think you're safer flying a Max than you are getting to the airport in a Tesla Uber.
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2024-12-06
>Too blinded by short term gain they failed to consider the long term losses To be clear, they weren't "blinded." They knew. These people aren't stupid. The reason their goals are short sighted is because their bonuses aren't based off the success of the company in 10 or 20 years, but this year. Often even by quarter. The system is setup in such a way that most CEOs and top executives have no motivation to look at long term success. They look at how they can meet their next goal to get their next bonus. If the company goes under in 5 years, who cares? They get a fat check for being fired, and will easily transition to another cushy job. There is simply little or no punishment for long term failure. In some ways it's actually part of the process.
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2024-12-06
Just flew in 777 for 10 hours if you compare the experience for example noise with an Airbus A350 you see how big the problem for Boeing is.
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2024-12-06
This is exactly the problem.
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2024-12-06
No bailouts!
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2024-12-06
When cutting corners to save money costs you money. Idiots.
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2024-12-06
You mean no one wants to get in one of the falls out of the sky planes. Shocking, and after they worked so hard at covering it up and assassinating the whistle blowers.
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2024-12-06
Huh. So what happens if companies just go elsewhere? It's not like there aren't competitors in the space. Does their stock just keep falling and then they get gobbled up by Airbus? And sure, people scream monopoly, and rightfully so. But if the market decides to put you out of business, what happens?
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2024-12-06
Is your company hiring consultants like BCG?
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2024-12-06
They can afford anything because the entire purpose of the US government is to funnel money to corrupt connected companies like Boeing. Boeing could do nothing but shit in a bucket and the government would still be shovelling billions at them.
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2024-12-06
The C919 isn't certified to fly anywhere outside china. China is in talks with faa etc though. It also is apparently overweight. It uses the same leap engine as a320 neo but apparently provides the same performance as a320 ceo Also don't underestimate the practical reality of scaling up
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2024-12-06
Look, not *all* of them fall out of the sky. And you can blame it on pilot error for an average of 23 months! Boeing sales team. Probably.
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2024-12-06
The sad thing is the C suite probably still doesn’t think that they fucked up and are focused on cutting costs rather than enhancing quality. A whole bunch of business majors have made LEAN manufacturing their religion. When quality control starts messing with the schedule it screws the whole model up, which is why there’s such pushback on keeping the schedule. The problem is when things are pushed out the door and QA can’t put the brakes on things and say schedule be damned there’s a problem, people end up dying. And if people are dying, nobody’s buying. So then it ends up being if it’s Boeing, I’m not going. Pretty fucking sad that over the course of five years management has managed to ruin the brand reputation which took about 100 years to build.
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2024-12-06
Jobs had a sense of taste too, which has yet to be replicated by most of the tech industry. That's really what made Apple so valuable, he was able to corale the company to make personal computing products for the everyman (of which Jobs was one) better than anyone else.
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2024-13-06
Generally true, only in this case attention is the point. It would be a a small gesture for the afterworld 
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2024-13-06
The board members will go cry in their multiple mansions on the shoulders of their niece-age wives.
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2024-13-06
What are you talking about? I have seen so much shit on Boeing (firing whistleblowers, fighting firefighter unions, etc) but nothing about firing a safety team.
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2024-13-06
... that has to be the dumbest most ass backwards response blaming a company for having a shitty culture is... sucking their cock? you're pants on head moronic. the only person here sucking any corporation's proverbial genitals is you
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2024-13-06
you're projecting
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2024-13-06
They'll still announce $2B buying their own stock from whatever profit they might make off their defense sales.
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2024-13-06
I had a windows mobile phone and it sucked! Absolute garbage. The iPhone was a radical and massive improvement.
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2024-12-06
They were intentionally "vague." This wasn't an honest misunderstanding. What they wrote was what they meant.
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2024-12-06
Congrats Adobe for doing the """"right"""" thing, I'm still gonna block your software from accessing the Internet lol
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2024-12-06
Adobe are simply the worst vendor I have to deal with, in terms of cost and administration
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2024-12-06
That’s one app; it’s almost $700/yr for the general suite
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2024-12-06
They are just rewording it. They aren’t changing anything. I would never trust Adobe. They are obviously going from a production software, to a generative one.
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2024-12-06
what do they mean threaten? people just cancel. as is in their best interest. and in the best interest of whoever they work for
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2024-12-06
ever heard of nuke?
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2024-12-06
you're right
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2024-12-06
Free if you sail the high seas
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2024-12-06
Go watch Louis Rossmans video on this......
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2024-12-06
That went up used to be 10
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2024-12-06
Dont bring Awful Insight into this.
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