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lol fuck off | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
1-877, you haven’t heard it enough | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I use Ublock on LibreWolf browser and i never get ads. On PC anyway. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Sometimes, I want to watch YouTube on my TV. I have to use the app and their ads are egregious. My PC has a blocker but not on the TV. The skip button after 10 seconds is fine, but now it's between 40-60 seconds before the skip. And sometimes the skip doesn't turn on. Like, the yellow circle will count down, and then it becomes gray (when you can skip) but the number stays yellow and forces me to finish the ads instead of skipping.
It's such an egregiously scummy move that's infuriating. Just don't fucking lie.
I need to get a phone, it seems. And if it blocks YouTube, that's probably for the best. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Ads are so hated that I have faith that someone will find a way to block them | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Yeah, I love premium and know it used to be Red but it hasn't been for quite a few years. I was just wondering if in some parts of the world it's still called Red because I find it strange people would still call it that | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Yeah I watch YouTube on my TV and the ads YouTube plays aren't that bad, they fixed whatever would cause you to get obscenely long unskippable ones and the longest I ever have to endure an ad is like 30s or so.
But creator ads? I hate them they're the thing I despise most and the thing that is likely to drive me away from YouTube. They're dishonest in a way that really frustrates me AND they're extremely interruptive to the pace of the video.
The only version of creator ads I don't mind is when they're put at the end, but if you try to cleverly segue into the ad I'll just close the video it just feels a bit too much. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I wouldn't mind paying for an ad-free youtube experience, but the prices are just too high. Premium Lite feels like a rip-off, and Premium is far too expensive for what it provides. I'd rather have "Premium" at a 2.99 euro/month pricepoint without the ad-free music, and then the music section as a separate addon for however much the music industry wants to cash in on this. That'll never happen, because YouTube music isn't worth it compared to its competitors so it _must_ be bundled with something, making that something far too expensive. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
> "This IP address doesn't get more content until 15 seconds of ads are verified as delivered
the new system is pretty much already doing this - they have baked all ads into the same countdown and the transitions between them doesn't remove time from the counter. so a 60 second before skip ad group is probably something more like 72~ seconds if there are 4-5 ads in it | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
it's ironic that on mobile, I can't even read the full article because of an absolutely mahoosive broken ad covering the page
gosh darnit | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I also would like a source for this claim. I tried to look this up and found nothing. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I have to use Tiktok for work and I don't understand how people can tolerate an app that is literally just ads | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I mean the app I use already skips in video ads. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Need source. YouTube makes pennies from a free user because they only get money if you click on the ad, which nobody does.
If you start paying like $10 a month that’s like 1000% profit from you | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I'm sure it will... for about 5 minutes. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Hell, there's a little cavern deep in my brain that's still got old Chicago radio jingles stuck in it from 20 years ago
*Cars and trucks, used and new, four-thousand south Harlem a-ve-nue, you gotta see Jack* | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I had actually been using YouTube Premium for €6.99 since 2021 and thought the price was really fair. (student discount)
Then it expired at some point and I paid €11.99. It was really close to the limit, but I thought ok, I watch a lot more YouTube than anything else anyway, so what the heck.
But then unfortunately the price was raised, even for existing subscriptions, to €12.99!
For me, it was absolutely outrageous to increase even the existing subscriptions. So I canceled right away. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
And all the complainers here will still go to YouTube
That's their strategy. You have nowhere else you can go | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Open any fandom wiki on your phone it’s literally just a pop up assault. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Dammint, I was trying to protect myself... | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I’m the opposite. I’m 46 and I can’t even watch live TV anymore unless it’s sports.
Everything is on the pvr or downloaded and YouTube has ad block.
If YouTube ever figures out how to force ad’s past a blocker I might actually get my garage cleaned up with all my free time! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I also grew up in a time before the internet went mainstream and I hated ads/commercials even then. Adblockers are one of the greatest inventions of the digital age. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Im not a fan of adds at all but this article is pretty weak.
Im pretty sure if they rolled this out they would be able to tackle the complex problems of timestamps and chapters.
If you dont like ads and dont want to pay for premium its fine, but they are desperately looking for a reason to keep the moral high ground. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
To be fair I’m more comfortable giving my data to the government
They already have it lmao. Your drivers license, social security number, credit card or whatever is already in their data base | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Cash, credit, money order, bank transfer. What other ways do they take payment? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I’ll stop using youtube before i watch it with ads | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Guess who's done watching YouTube then? Me. I'm not sitting through ads. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
>i will not reward a company who's sole goal is to make their product unusable unless you pay, which ads currently make it
>
But that's totally okay with them. You don't pay but you don't drain their resources. This doesn't punish them. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I was shocked yesterday. I had to use my Dad's F-150 that's new enough to have a touch screen radio and noticed an ad for a personal injury lawyer scrolling through where it displays the artist and song name. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
sleep timer, 30 mins. tv turns off. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I would have considered the Premium service, but it’s not even reasonably priced, so greedy Google isn’t getting any money from me. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
While I share your hatred of ads, it is a source of revenue for a lot of the material on YouTube. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
🎵 _whopper whopper whopper whopper_ 🎵 | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
That was/is true of commercials on TV as well. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
In the age of the dawn of the AI nothing is impossible. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
It’s the constant political ads that bring me down. I don’t mind the others so much. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
You can’t make me listen to them yet though. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Eh. Whatever. Major first world problem. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
TiVo did that for several years - SkipMode, where the "skips" were set by people on East Coast time, distributed over the TiVo network to all the boxes, and then timed to the closed caption feed to line it up to your local network affiliate. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Improve. Adapt. Overcome. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
#makeadsmandatory | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Ad blockers will find a way. The free market will prevail. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I get that experience for free with a good ad block. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I used to add videos to my watch later list, but then a few days later, go to the list and they are missing. That and tutorials that have been on the channel for a while and such that suddenly go away.
That's one of three major reasons why [I wrote a GUI](https://i.imgur.com/IgwT2rR.png) to use youtube-dl, and an old SD card I have no need for, permanently plugged into the PC as a temp drive. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
That is a good phrase!
(I’m gonna ‘steal’ it) | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I use YouTube Premium because I get music free for the same price as Spotify for students so
I'm laughin | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Ya. It used to bother me as a child when my parents muted the commercials, but I get it now lol.
I will take my earbuds out, or mute the volume whenever I can. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Maybe so, I’m only talking about what exists now and discrediting the idea that there’s no value in either enduring ads or paying one of the cheaper sub models given it’s content wealth. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
If I can't block YouTube ads, I'll simply stop watching YouTube. I will not subscribe to Platinum. Ever. Because I know where that leads to. After a brief period without ads, they'll want to increase their revenue so they'll introduce some ads to paying customers as well, and create a new, more expensive ad-free version. And they'll keep increasing the price for ad-free version until the end of time. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Or you could even not watch the ad. Turn your phone upside down, face down on the table and make a cuppa. Now you've got a beverage and you didn't get advertised to.
All of that.... for exactly the information you were looking for anyway | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
How many stores do you know that *only* accept VisaNet payments? There are a hundred competing companies in the space so if one or two companies don't want to process card transactions for your business you have myriad alternatives to work with.
Forcing companies to conduct business against their will is not something the courts like to do, traditionally. It's an express violation of the company's first amendment rights and not something to be taken lightly. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
At this point I'd rather Patreon the channels I like so the creators don't have to deal with Google's predatory YouTube payment algorithm anyway. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I’m kinda in this boat. I can deal with a couple of quick ads and get that they need the revenue to survive.
But it’s been so fucking *obnoxious* lately. Ads every 5 minutes, often right in the middle of the best part. Ads that are 20-40 minutes fucking long! I’ve got 3 that keep cycling at the moment; a 22 minute one for a local farm coop (that I already subscribe to); a 20 minute mega church sermon and a 40 minute ‘have this Survivor episode for free!’ I had one yesterday that threatened to be *2 hours long* if I listened to the whole thing. Bitch please of course I am going to fast forward this shit!
They seriously need to stop ads that are more than 15 seconds long. It’s just getting silly. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Maybe they should just make their ads not intrusive.
Amazon did that with twitch, you can still watch the stream but an ad will pop up to the side from time to time. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
No, they outride said it makes it harder and are entirely working off speculation at the present. It absolutely breaks the current system | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Self host what, ripped movies and shows? I don’t know why you think that would be a revelation to me given your approach is “YouTube can die for all I care”. The link is obvious.
I said you refuse to pay for YouTube or watch ads, not that you’re incapable of spending money. And the idea of a NAS costing a lot more money than a YouTube sub… that’s just an argument in favour of having unbridled access to YouTube | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
TiVo like ad skipping comes back. Download stream and remove ads. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
There is this station in the Netherlands, that shows movies starting at, let's say, 8pm. With all the commercials, the movie would end at 10pm.
They had the brilliant idea to cut the movie 10 minutes before it ends to shove a 30 minute "news" program in my face. When that ended, the remaining segment of the movie would air.
I gave up on cable soon after that. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I was watching dinosaur game videos and I got a sexualized ad for something. And they want to blame LGBT with grooming??? The ads are grooming kids. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Maybe, but at least on Steam, there is actually a "Guides" section built into the platform of the games and the percentage of guides that are nothing more than a link to their youtube video is rising all the time despite the framework for a readable guide already being right there and where the target audience would look first.
Said videos would also not be half as infuriating if they were not 15 minutes long, of which 10 are not the content you are there for but useless blahblah and 4 and a half are not what you are specifically looking for right now. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I’m already sick of having ads for a 5 second video
And I’m pisser that they make 30 second unskippable ads now | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Yeah I can't remember the last time I actually paid attention to an ad. My brain blocks them out automatically whether its youtube or scrolling down a website or on IG. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
You all still use YouTube? Gave up on that probably 4 price hikes ago. Just stop using it, and the problem goes away. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
This will be downvoted, but the reason Premium is so expensive and ads are so intrusive is because so many people use ad blockers. I’m not saying Google isn’t at fault, but the users who feel entitled to ad-free content at zero cost are also at fault, and it ruins the experience for users like me who are willing to watch ads or pay for content that we enjoy. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Yeah, I thought as much but didn’t want to speak out of ignorance and had no interest in researching. Thanks for the info | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
https://askubuntu.com/questions/856911/using-youtube-dl-to-download-entire-youtube-channel
If you like the under-the-hood stuff, you can point the command-line exe youtube-dl to a channel name, and pull the whole thing. It will skip already pulled content if you don't rename it. I accidentally have done that a few times. Just wanted to pull a video to see if I'd sub to them, came back the next day and had over 100 downloaded videos. Oops. (I did sub to Technology Connections and watch them all in YT) | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Even Idiocracy didn’t predict THIS many ads. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
P sure it's the ads on other websites like Twitch and illegal movie sites. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Good for you I guess. But not for me. I prefer to support the creators directly that make the actual content on the platform and get a way more sustainable profit from it than the little to no ad revenue.
Maybe I would support YouTube if they provided more benefits and better quality of life for the consumers and creators alike, but right now it's not the case.
-DMCA are abused against smaller creators that can't do anything about it. Unless you have a massive community that can bitch so loudly to YouTube, you're basically fucked.
-Often they set new arbitrary rules that strait up demonetize channels for things that mainstream channels gets a free pass. This is a shady anti-competitive practice that was brought up many times and nothing has changed.
-They do shitty UI changes and roll out it to some consumers with no way of opting out of it. (the only way out is using scripts made by the ad-blocking community...)
-They don't make improvement to the system that would make the experience more enjoyable. So we have many add-ons created by the community to circonvene the frustrating lack of features.
And here is a video by Louis Rossmann, touching on more reasons why premiums subscription sucks: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q3ZXQZZlcE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q3ZXQZZlcE) | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Yep, that's exactly what I self host
Owned, ripped, original videos that I purchased, in person, with *money* that I can do whatever the hell I want with.
Including storing them on a nas and watching them on whatever device I feel like watching them on, anywhere in the world, and including downloading them to any device I want to watch them locally on say before a flight and then deleting them from that device when I'm done with them | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Not only that, some of those users will still be sharing and recommending videos and channels to other people - people who might not be blocking ads. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
These people lack self awareness. It’s like they totally don’t understand why people started using ad blockers to begin with | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Google is making a strong case that they are using their position and large marketshare as a net negative for consumers. They should not have a browser and search and content. These should all be separate businesses. Their tactics are exposing why monopolistic control of these markets is a problem and its begging for government intervention. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
>*A person using their service who isn't watching ads and isn't paying for premium is a net negative to them*
That's not really how it works. YT was worth billions of dollars before it ever ran a single add, and that's because they collect reams of your data. They track your browsing habits and your interests, which google then funnels into various services that they use across their platform and sell to other companies.
In-video ads are an easy way for them to exploit low-hanging fruit for even more value, but they never needed the ads. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
This just shows how decrypted Youtube is slowly getting they cant seem to manage. It also means this market is ripe for the taking. A company or starter that could incision a new Youtube like webage is bound to happen. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
cash, voucher / activation code, credit card, debit card, paypal, crypto (monero, bitcoin, bitcoin cash), bank wire, swish, giropay, eps transfer, iDEAL, Bancontact, Przelewy24 | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Are you going to be the third person that misunderstands how users provide value to YouTube beyond just ad revenue? Please, make my day. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
The man delved the dark side and came back. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Innovative, that's the word for it.
Back before popup blockers were popular or particularly effective, and auto playing audio was popular. I remember 90's ads too.
What those ads taught us is that you add a feature to the web standard and people will abuse the fuck out of it and we'll spend the next 30 years trying to fix it. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Whether there is value in ads is irrelevant when we have a proven road map that we know they'll take advantage of down the line.
And nobody should have to watch ads when they subscribe to a service. It's absolutely fucking absurd, and anyone doing so is a moron. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I've honestly just stopped using YouTube altogether. Don't miss that much anyway. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
>Yeah, they shouldn't even offer any free option. People wanting to access first aid, educational, or otherwise vital information shouldn't be able to access it without watching 5 back to back ads
Sounds like Google's job to support. Go check out a library, heck get yours to host videos for free.
>There's no other way for YouTube to make money and putting video ads in front of sub-60 second videos is completely logical.
Subscribe to premium. I find it well worth it.
>It's almost like people think YouTube used to not have any ads injected into their videos
Used to be easier to borrow money in tech.
Lots of things used to be different.
>Everyone should just bend over, accept the new normal, and we should all bootlick Google like this guy. /s
Not at all. Vote with your feet and go use something else
Just don't bitch endlessly online about what you feel entitled to. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Nothing is ever impossible. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
It's not what they "think" is acceptable - it **IS** acceptable to all those people who don't want to pay the monthly subscription.
If you think there are that many disaffected people who will quit Youtube, where will they go? Vimeo and Dailymotion? Meta? Too bad Youtube has no serious competition. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Haven’t used Twitch since they are forcing ads like this. It really just hurts streamers in the end | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Ads before the videos, multiple ads breaks during the video and sponsors within the video...can't escape the ads | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
They might already have one you have literally zero clue. If you’re gonna not watch ads at least accept that you’re selfishly hurting creators while doing so. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Guys, can we please band together like we did on Myspace and move on to a company that gives value to its customers and doesn't enslave them? We've been getting conditioned, comfortable, and self-centered these days.. It's tough to be optimistic about the future. I can plead though, that's the beauty of social media. We have the power to make the change, we all agree, let's stop supporting these companies that do nothave our best interest in mind. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Ah I miss YouTube days before *YouTubers* were a thing | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Yeah they sell your data. Which really isn’t hard to have a separate Google account for that has zero connections to anything else in your life. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
typically changes like this go out in phased rollouts
meaning, you are probably not in the experimental group but will eventually get hit when the rollout goes to 100% | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
First it was 5 second commercials, then it became 10 seconds, to 15, 30, now we're at a minute and not even having the option to skip them anymore. It was only a matter of time before they incorporated this... We are just letting them bully us. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Twitch doesn't want walk ups they want established fandoms probably their logic | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
> value in ads
Not what I’m saying, I’m saying value in the YouTube platform as a whole
> sub for ads idiotic
Agreed, and when that happens, the sub will be cancelled. Just like when I cancelled Netflix as soon as they announced the password business.
If what you’re insinuating actually happens, there’s no difference now to then other than lots of cancelled subs. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
it's hard to discuss the actual practical reasons why this is different from prior efforts to combat ads because it's moderately technical and most folks using adblockers are just following guides to install them and don't understand the underlying details
depending on how they roll this out, it may mean that you'd need to download a video and run it through a removal utility to actually get rid of ads. no more dynamic removal | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
With this new method it also breaks sponsorblock, it’s in the article | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I mean, Google bought YouTube because it was haemorrhaging money and was about to shut down. It was incredibly popular, and was considered important enough to be worth buying even if they had no roadmap to turn a profit, only becoming profitable somewhere between 2010-2015.
It has funded the creation of some really high-quality content that wouldn't have been made otherwise, and provides a platform for anyone to host video and serve them globally for free.
Yeah, the ads are annoying, but YouTube hasn't been 'ruined' imo. I used to just use adblock but started paying for premium, as it provides me a lot more value than many other services I pay more for. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
They can't make me care about ads, or know what they are selling... | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
This is what AI should be meant to do. Download the video, strip out the ads, then play the video. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Yep and as soon as a service turns from trying to be a good service to trying to milk me of every single cent I own people start to drop the service and eventually switch to the next “growth service”. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
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