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No, people should work to make content and not get paid, and companies should buy servers and pay employees to maintain infrastructure without getting a cent out of it. We're poor, entitled, and ANGRY here | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
People shit on me for years for predicting this when the numbers made sense to do it. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
JFC imagine using Chrome or a Chrome derivative like Edge, Opera GX (ITS FOR GAMERS, LOSERS) etc and then surprised Pikachuing when ad | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Principles. I rather have my money go to someone fucking up the ads infested nightmare that companies like Google are doing instead of actively promoting it. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
For your mobile (Android) there's Newpipe, which can also be integrated into Revanced and replace the actual youtube download button. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I remember dialing up to the internet, waiting a couple of minutes, then I'm connected, go to a news website, and wait for that article to load because the 75 ads running on that page have equal priority to load as the websites content oh, and the 17 pop-up windows that hijack your screen and won't stop until you log off the internet | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
No, the guy making videos to reach as much people as possible to help them isn't going to make a post on some forgotten forum (ironically the best platform would be reddit). In fact nobody was, since you ended in YouTube.
Anyway, what a weirdo luddite thing. Oh no it's so terrible to have immediate access to videos made anywhere in the world about a million different topics! YouTube is soooo bad.
Pray that YouTube doesn't go away so you don't have to start joining Discord servers. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
You know what my fav thing is? This segue! To our sponsor! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Because Brave sucks | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
There are a few apps you can setup that auto download latest episodes of your favourite YouTubers and add specific metadata so they can be read by Plex.
I had a play but haven’t successfully set it up yet. That would be endgame for me - I’d have all my media in one app | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Why would anyone create a company catering towards users who won't watch ads or pay for a subscription. What's the business model here? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
The rest of the world could learn some valuable lessons from Albania on this matter. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Even worse is when the video gets to the step you really need, and they just say "you should remember this from when we covered it in one of our last videos" and don't even reference when it could have been, and now you're on a sadistic treasure hunt for the video that you need.
If you go beyond the first 5 pages on DuckDuckGo, you'll start finding what you're looking for in text form without the video crap. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
It's no longer working. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I use YouTube a lot and have the money for premium but even if I paid for it I'd still have to use modded Youtube app which defeats the purpose. I still need the QOL features it provides | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
> the ad is happening in our domain (our browser) we have full control of what it tells YouTube
Next up: Youtube mandating Widevine DRM, hiding away the whole video decoding process in a blackbox. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I cancelled my Prime too and don't miss it a bit. I realized I don't actually need anything delivered same day. Haven't even gone back to buy anything since. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I mean, you can deny it all you want. The technical term is a "Browsewrap" agreement. When you visit YouTube, there is a "Terms" link on the left hand column.
If you take Google to court, you would need to argue that you didn't know that blocking ads was against ToS, and Google would argue that it should be obvious that it is. Whether or not you win would be interesting, but ultimately, Browsewrap agreements are fairly common and are generally legally upheld unless it contains something particularly unexpected. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I have a YouTube channel with original nerdy content which has 500k views and I’ve never gotten a cent from them despite ads being played before my videos all the time. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Have you tried Blokada? That works for ads on the Youtube app. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
AdBlockers don’t work on streaming devices like Apple TV, Chromecast. Sponsorblock is possible but not trivial to setup | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
>Because just deciding a price is good doesn't magically mean that's within the cost to host/serve that much HD video.
Digital economics of scale my brother. Either they get millions of users trying to block their ads and a few hundred thousands that can't be arsed to install adblocking measures - or they get millions of subscribers if the price is right. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Stopped watching youtube videos long time ago. There's nothing but ads nowadays. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Everyone needs to do their dancers to stop buying all products that force themselves into your screen. This will make ads die. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
... or 'mixes', which can't be removed. Half my recommendations are the same mixes I've been seeing for months. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Creators certainly can see a graph of which parts of a video are the most viewed. Many times it will also be available for average users as well if you mouse over the progress bar. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
There's not enough content I enjoy on Youtube to subscribe. I block the ads and support the handful of channels I watch with patreon subs or direct donations. I'm spending more than I would with a subscription but fuck it more money for the people I enjoy and I don't like the idea of Google getting anything from me. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
They don’t have that many premium subs. I reckon the gigantic amount of AdRevenue keeps them afloat | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
>Unless they're doing server side time checks for every video, it's bypassable
They likely will. It's how they'll get the analytics. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Just stop using YouTube | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
So it's break sponsorblock?
Good. That shit was only hurting content creators, not google, while the dev takes in donations. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
/r/revancedapp | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Wasn't hard tho. Commercials cranked up the volume up to eleven. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
They should have tiers for light users and heavy users.
- 10hrs/week ad free for: 4.99/month
- Unlimited ads free for 9.99/month | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
It's super annoying on twitch because, unlike youtube streams, you can't rewind a stream to see what you missed while the ads were playing. Literally have to load up a separate VOD. At least on youtube you can rewind and then play it back at 1.5x speed, see what you missed, and eventually catch up to the live stream. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Don't forget the 5 minute sponsor ads in the actual video that you also have to skip after the original advert placed on the video. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
just new videos from popular content creators or every single video? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
When people say this, do you genuinely think Google cares? You understand this is exactly what they want, right? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I will 100% quit youtube and not come back if they force that. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
havent enjoyed youtube in a long while. dont have any problem to go on with it and neither has youtube | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Not only does it make web surging easier, it also makes it significantly safer. I consider ublock to be part of the security suite I deploy at my office.
Since I started adding it to everyone's computers the amount of virus/malware issues I've had to deal with has dropped significantly. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Wait, whaaat?! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Agreed. I get two 30 second ads at the beginning of every video and I have uBlock. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
[When you block YouTube ads, you violate YouTube’s Terms of Service.](https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/14129599?hl=en). I can't afford to lose my Google account because they suddenly decided to punish me for blocking YouTube adds. I've used the account too much and have too much linked to it. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I already reduced my usage of YouTube by anout 80% since they started that bs | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Look into sideloading and uYou+. Haven’t had an ad on my iPhone in 2 years | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I too am known as the Lightbringer among my kin. It is an awesome responsibility and not one to be dispensed casually. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Good. Ad blockers hurt Google. Sponsorblock only hurt content creators. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Just pay for premium? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Hence why it is referred to as “An arms race”. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I just replaced my first iPhone screen last night thanks to youtube tutorials. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I can see this as a possibility. There are already apps that auto download your face YouTubers and add their content to plex | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
use firefox | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Sweet, thanks. I'm already sideloading Apollo so I might as well install that | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Make sure you update it. It's been really working after each tactick YouTube has tried. But sometimes need to update and restart the browser. This is on a Chrome book though. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Crazy how you probably wouldn't go into a store and steal but you'll disable ads on YouTube and watch videos all day. It's the same thing. YouTube has costs, massive ones, creators have costs, and all of it is paid for with ads and subscriptions. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I don't think the eu is pro destroying businesses | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Bye-bye, youtube | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Can you choose your country in this? I only have a setting for using a broader range of IP addresses instead of my local region but nothing to select a specific country. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Is the ad in the room with you right now? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
But that's exactly the thing - that downloaded video will have ads baked-in | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Wouldn't it technically be possible to circumvent the ads if the client could make the server think you are a premium user? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
> Courts have found that terms of use presented in this manner do not create an enforceable contract unless the website owner presents evidence that the user had actual or constructive knowledge of the terms.
https://ca.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/5-508-6048?transitionType=Default&contextData=(sc.Default)&firstPage=true
I have no idea what their terms of use say, all I did was click a link in my browser which already had a content blocker installed. The onus is on the website owner to prove I had knowledge, I do not need to prove the opposite. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I don't say this lightly, but this is the dumbest reddit comment I've read today.
GPUs and electricity are expensive. *Very* expensive on the scale of Youtube. So, they're going to spend *more* money to make sure you get served those ads, just that they can make a fraction back from those ads? Gotta spend money to lose money, I guess.
Yes, they're changing how they serve the ads. No, that will not use "tons of GPU" to do this, holy fuck. I knew you "reee ads on the service that I choose to use" people were stupid, but this really takes the fucking cake. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
An easy filter, do you play factorio, if yes HA is for you. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
My algorithm is all cat girls though. I can't find anything else. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
What's to stop something from detecting that injection and stopping it? 🤔 If you refreshed, would your ad be in the same spot? Could the solution be to detect the ad injection and then to refresh the page back to the appropriate timestamp?
Seems like a problem that could be easily solved if you put a tech savvy stoner in a room with a computer. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Hey chatgpt, watch this movie and create a copy that excludes the advertising | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
uBlock doesn't accept donations, on principle, and good for them. It's fucked up to accept donations for a tool that hurts other people's revenue streams. It also corrupts the development.
The Sponsorblock dev shamelessly still accepts donations, though. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Except for Youtube thats basically hit it's peak. There isn't anyone left who "doesn't know about Youtube" maybe in some developing countries but overall they've won mindshare of almost everyone.
> those 4 served to reinforce the cultural dominance of Youtube and maintain its monopoly on what it does.
They have a monopoly because no one can do video hosting like they do. It's impossible. The plan now is to start pushing away customers who aren't generating revenue for them. That means killing ad-blockers | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I think you already know you're not *really* supposed to be blocking the ads. You would have to go to court and genuinely argue that you never had any reason to believe that Google did not want you to block the ads in the videos. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
No ads in Russia too. You know why | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
AI this, AI that, blablabla
Not everything needs to be AI. ReVanced already detects in-video sponsors, highlights, intros, etc...
Whole goddamn industry is prefixing AI to any software solution at this point | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
It feels like alot of people complaining won't pay for the service no matter what it costs to not have ads. They also refuse to watch any amount of ads without blocking them. Then they use an extension to block the direct advertisements by the content creators themselves. Best part is how many of these people are most able to pay but want to make sure their watching contributes nothing in exchange for free access to what other people create without interruption.
This approach guarantees YouTube will continue to become more of a shit company and is entitled as fuck. Approaching every YouTube creators content as if you're pirating a triple AAA game/movie/show is such bullshit. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
>Also youtubers get a larger cut of money for viewers who use Youtube Premium, so I like that channels I like value more from my support.
Source? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
What I've been doing in the meantime, is use the YouTube enhancer extension. Either scroll down to the comments or click the PiP to open up the mini player, then use the progress bar to skip the ad. Idk how long this will be effective however. Annoying but better than watching ads. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I'm not so sure. It's not trivial to implement and will be computationally expensive to concurrently track active ad view time for potentially millions of concurrent clients and have it accommodating of edge cases and spotty connections. It's much easier to just have the client report back encrypted analytics on its own.
While server-side time checks are possible, I think it'd be unlikely to make financial sense to set up and maintain for something that 75% of users don't use anyway. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Most vods *are* streams under the hood. The server doesn't actually need to tell the client how long the video is at any point. It's convenient to do so for some UI features, but those don't need to correspond to the actual literal length of the stream. It's also convenient to stream somewhat into the "future" for buffering, but again, that is by no means necessary. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Most likely whatever's blocked is just preventing the site from delivering ads, so you're splitting hairs. Yes, the site doesn't work because their pihole blocks something, but not because it breaks the site's content, it breaks the site's ability to deliver ads and some script reacts to that and locks the user out completely. So, yes, if the site has anti-adblock measures, it does actively lock you out (based on what content you block, sure, so you're right, too). | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
> consumer
You mean pretending your watch history is so valuable = you’re paying? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Its really worth it if only for turning off mobile ads. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
This is simply not true. There was a whole drama on Youtube a good 7 years ago now where ad revenue was cut dramatically across the board for creators. Before that it was considered decent money and channels could support themselves via ads, today even if your entire audience watched ads you couldn't make a living unless you got tens of millions of views per video.
The rules also changed in this time so Youtube would start to demonetise people for literally anything. Two seconds of copyrighted material, a swear word, you mention a "sensitive social issue", bam your money is gone.
A few channels have done breakdowns of their revenue streams and ads are pathetic money these days, even if their ad revenue doubled or tripled it still wouldn't make ends meet and I guarantee the proportion of people using adblock isn't that high.
Making a Youtube channel is just more expensive these days too. Nobody will accept a big channel run by one or two guys with low production quality anymore. Most big channels have several dozen people or more working on stuff. Teams of editors and writers, hair and makeup, expensive cameras and studios, tech guys to run all their IT. It takes a whole ass corporation to make content now.
Oh and besides all of this, adblockers have existed for longer than Youtube has, and if anything with the rise of phone and TV clients which are much harder to adblock and the lower technical ability of gen z/gen alpha, I imagine the proportion of adblocking users has actually gone down not up. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
at least you got an announcement! they just inserted them in mine and it confused the hell out of me the first time | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I agree that the original comment is completely unfounded. I've never seen a GPU-encoder that performs on the same level as optimized CPU-encoders. I highly doubt that YouTube uses any GPUs in their video ingestion pipeline today and I doubt there would be any reason for them to change that unless GPUs became cheaper than CPUs.
For server-side ads I agree there really is no reason for them to mess around with the existing formats. They can accomplish the same goal by sending an ad segment when a videoid segment is requested with the same adverse side effects that would happen if they created a new ad+videoid concat segment | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Right?
The discourse around YouTube is beyond stupid. A completely free service is never going to come close to being viable, never mind competitive.
People just don’t want to pay for things, pure and simple. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Or just pay for premium dumbasses? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Then they will lose a lot of premium customers. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Yeah I was using the mobile page before I found out and had the most terrible experience lol... now get some rest! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
There's an extension for that called PocketTube. You can even hide the different categories so they don't appear on your subscription feed. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
> distributing knowledge, sharing passion
All of which you refuse to pay for/watch ads and hope the whole thing dies?
Seems about right for the average YouTube thread. Maybe creators can run on platitudes instead of funding | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I really hope gmail, maps and such will not disappear. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
58 seconds for longer videos. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
>I've been thinking for a while that this is a war Google/Youtube has lost a while ago. They just don't wanna admit it or can't afford to give up.
Sounds like a certain other war going on right now. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
They're legally allowed to do it in Albania. In Myanmar they aren't. But nothing is stopping them from monetizing Albania. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
You can just sideload the yt app with Adblock and sponsorblock | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
It's more complicated than that
The actual metric advertiser's are trying to improve is the conversion, i.e. how many people click on the link in the description. If no one is clicking the link, which would happen if everyone had sponsorblock, the conversion rate would be lower and advertisers would generally pay less per view than today.
So yes, sponsor block is kinda indirectly making YouTubers lose money.
My personal go to would to use sponsor block, BUT to help the creator financially as soon as you find his creations valuable. Usually, there's a patreon or some merch to help you with that.
Although better than watching adds, I don't find this creator financing perfect either, because it would then become a way to steer the content that gets promoted, and thus make the people who pay the ones who decide what comes next, and accessibility becomes a lower priority.
It's a difficult problem, but as a real YouTube enjoyer, I must at least acknowledge that it has changed the way I watch content, and that I much prefer this way than traditional TV.
It's still unclear what this media system costs and how much platform, creators, watchers and advertisers have to pay in the fairest possible situation, but at least I find added value to the existence of YouTube. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
How about they give creators a better cut of the revenue if they do this? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Revance comes with sponsor block | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Youtube wrecked ad revenue going out to creators all on their own, adblockers had very little to do with it. They slashed their value, made it easier and easier to get demonetised, let copyright holders run rampant and practically don't allow fair use defenses, change the algorithm constantly to promote ever worse types of clickbait. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I find the ever growing push of advertisement to be incredibly annoying.
I can't think of a single thing I've seen an advertisement for that's made me want to buy it. Maybe a video game. I tend to know about those and want them even before their ad campaigns though. Especially given that my "personalized" ads are shit. I only get ads for feminine beuty products because of my girlfriend. Even Reddit has ads all over the place. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
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