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It stopped being cool when corporations felt they could monetize every aspect of it.
In the 90s, sure intranet access was metered by the minute... And was more expensive... Even the stupid pop up ads were more innovative than the crap they do now. (Innovative... Still annoying) | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Which will make more people get ad blockers. If you make the site unusable without it (and most of the internet is just about there these days), you're putting yourself in a death spiral of ad blocking. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Same here by a wide margin, anyone who doesn't think YouTube premium has value must never use YouTube for anything but mindless meme junk because the sheer volume of quality content for just about every niche interest on earth is insane. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Greed ruins everything. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I don't share this optimism, I fully expect Youtube to dig their heels in...
... But I'm deeply intrigued by the fact that you think otherwise \^.\^ . | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Oh boy, if you think that a VPN makes your web surfing private I have a fucking bridge to sell you. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I thought it was to see Janet Jackson’s nipple? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
That might make it virtually impossible for me to watch YouTube then I’m really at a point where if I’m watching multiple unskippable ads I want it to be followed up with star trek or what we do in the shadows or family guy idk | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Nor sure why you were down voted. 2 of my friends also have pi-holes and love em | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
There is no adblock if you use a SmartTV, Roku, Amazon Fire, etc. to watch YouTube. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Just pay for premium, you cheapskates. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Draža vibes✅ | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
This is why they are talking about injecting the ads into the videos on the server. The stream you download will have ads in it. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
It has way more content than HBO and many people spend more time on YouTube than other streaming services, so why not? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Ukraine or Israel for Twitch if you care about using that site as well. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Huh? I’ve never gotten ads on Spotify premium | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Longer ads are not necessarily better or more effective. Five to twenty seconds is really enough for a well put together ad. Think of what print ads in glossy magazines can do with a picture and fewer than 10 words of copy. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I’m sure there’s a way around that, the ad is happening in our domain (our browser) we have full control of what it tells YouTube | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
And this site will pay for itself how?
If YouTube inject the ads server side into the video the site would need to download the video from YouTube detect and remove the ads, reencode the video and then stream it to you. Would probably actually cost more than than what it costs YouTube given you would need the extra processing power for the AI and reencoding while transferring even more data than YouTube does.
This isn’t even mentioning the copyright issues around this that I’m sure Google would use to sue the site out of existence if ever became remotely popular. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Ads will be gone soon and perhaps Google can come up with a more ethical way to operate lol
Someone will create a local generative AI, for your own device, which will detect ads and hide or block them using generative image replacement before it renders the page.
Apple will actively encourage this as it disrupts Google ads, whilst providing them with additional ad revenue.
Personally, I want to build an opt-in marketing tool and change this bullshit and wasteful paradigm. An analysis of the cost of push marketing like Google and Meta would demonstrate a rather significant resource consumption to put ads no one cares about everywhere.
Wouldn’t it be nice to choose what we want to see for once? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Were you there when they switched algos that screwed over animators in favor of let's plays? Still hasn't recovered for animators. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
And THAT is why Youtube Red is no longer the brand name | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Why would I reward someone for bad behavior? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
My understanding of the server side injection they are using is that on Youtube's server the original video is just that, the original video, but the server injects the ad in the video and the end user get 'a video' which is the original with baked in ads throughout. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
YouTube has become virtually unusable. The clincher for me is inserting ads in the middle of videos and music. I use it less and less each day. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Twitch has gotten good at bypassing adblockers. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Well YouTube back down before on this. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
And so pays for the processing and data transfer that this would require.
I could see you setting up your own box to do it if you had a spare machine with enough power to do it all but I don’t think that a self hosted solution would be terribly popular. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
From the developer of SponsorBlock:
YouTube is currently experimenting with server-side ad injection. This means that the ad is being added directly into the video stream. This breaks sponsorblock since now all timestamps are offset by the ad times.
https://x.com/SponsorBlock/status/1800835402666054072
My thoughts:
The ads could change in amount depending on where you live or other conditions so they could be different for other people. It depends on how they implement this. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
My 2018 nvidia shield pro still shits excellence to this day. I love the thing. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Because sometimes that is the only place to find what I’m looking for. Unfortunately, too many people think they can get YouTube famous so they decide to make a video instead of a technical write up. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Seems the companies need to be reminded. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Lol let them try their worst. Sponsorblock already does a brilliant job at filtering baked in ads. Eat shit YouTube. I won't spend a single cent on them even if I become a billionaire. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
That only works when the timestamp is consistent | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
The timestamps are variable with the new server-side ads. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
This is exactly what they want you to do if you are blocking ads. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
YouTube quality went down hill in 2012 my friend. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
what do you mean skip?? since when does youtube just cut out random parts of videos for people? is that new? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Or sit through the entire history of the thing you’re trying to fix. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Do you use Ublock? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Maybe Odyssey? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
haha yes. ive been spending less and less time with youtube | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Facts. A good dedicated forum for your car will have more detailed information in a format that is much better suited to use in a shop than a YouTube video. Unfortunately, forums have been dying off in favor of Facebook groups, which are simply garbage. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Which, if we could do it 20 years ago, certainly tech can do it today | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
it was awesome. i fixed alot of shit on my car with youtube. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Since YouTube started a war on ad blockers, I’ve noticed as a mobile and console viewer of YouTube that ads are so much more egregious now.
I’ve had a number of 30, 45 and even 60 second unskippable ads.
We typically watch YouTube when we have dinner on the Xbox. That’s all my Xbox does these days. But recently we’ve opted for almost any kind of content except YouTube because it’s infuriating to watch.
I used to watch 2-4 hours of YouTube a day a few years ago. Now it is maybe 45 minutes. Soon it might be 0. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Just out of curiosity why are ods not allowed in Albania? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Here you go:
sleepwithmepodcast.com/ | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
So surely your YouTube premium subscription wouldn’t be affected by this news? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Time to forget YouTube | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Same...as long as I'm using a browser. It's probably uBlock or my PiHole (AdGuard Home, actually) that's doing it. App on my Roku TV and Chromecast all serve up unskippable ads, though. I don't know how you could possibly get around that using their unmodified app. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I cannot wait for someone out there to utilize AI and ML to retaliate against corporate giants like Google, who owns YouTube, to fight back for the people by blocking ads and still gaining access to content.
Since AI and ML are to transform the internet into a much smarter beast by utilizing complex algorithms and formulas, then maybe there’s a space for the open world to enter and join forces.
Just like the young kid who found a way to design an app that allowed green bubbles to interact with Apple’s blue bubbles successfully, there has to be someone out there who can utilize technology to scrape the bones of YouTube and leave them gasping for air.
I hope it gets so bad they have to halt YouTube and take it offline until they can fix their ad-blocking codings.
I call this one, the people vs. YouTube. Stay tuned. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
The more things change, the more they remain the same, eh? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Here are some of my favorites. Could you, please, share some of yours?
https://youtube.com/@ActionAdventureTwins
https://youtube.com/@BostonDynamics
https://youtube.com/@BraveWilderness
https://youtube.com/@BustaGutTV
https://youtube.com/@CaspianReport
https://youtube.com/@DailyDoseOfInternet
https://youtube.com/@EvenOut
https://youtube.com/@gameranxTV
https://youtube.com/@GamingHistorian
https://youtube.com/@gilstrap
https://youtube.com/@HumorBagel
https://youtube.com/@InternetTodayTV
https://youtube.com/@InvictaHistory
https://youtube.com/@isaacarthurSFIA
https://youtube.com/@JimmyReesComedy
https://youtube.com/@joescott
https://youtube.com/@kurzgesagt
https://youtube.com/@MMAOnPoint
https://youtube.com/@ModernVintageGamer
https://youtube.com/@MrBallen
https://youtube.com/@NPCArchivist
https://youtube.com/@ownagepranks
https://youtube.com/@pbsspacetime
https://youtube.com/@PitchMeetings
https://youtube.com/@RealLifeLore
https://youtube.com/@RyanGeorge
https://youtube.com/@ScaryInteresting
https://youtube.com/@skycorphomevideo
https://youtube.com/@SuperStupidPoop
https://youtube.com/@TechAltar
https://youtube.com/@Techtablets
https://youtube.com/@TheFridayCheckout
https://youtube.com/@Thorayaa
https://youtube.com/@Thunderf00t
https://youtube.com/@ToptenzNettop10
https://youtube.com/@TwoMinutePapers
https://youtube.com/@votesport
https://youtube.com/@WatchMojo
https://youtube.com/@Wendoverproductions | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
How much does yt premium cost? That's at least the amount I'd be willing to pay. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Cmon make already alternative for youtube. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
lol I run HA and don’t recommend it to anyone that isn’t willing to waste weeks of their life | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
or.... RTFA
> On the other hand, some people still recommend using a VPN and IP address from a country where YouTube ads are prohibited, such as Myanmar, Albania, or Uzbekistan....
(bonus points if you use the Google One VPN to do this) | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
What the fuck...this works even in the YouTube app on iPhone | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
And it also comes with YouTube music, which replaced our Spotify subscription. Although Spotify did a much better job of playing "radio" based on a song. YT seems to always revert to the same artists no matter where I start from | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Ads.
Banner ads. The video ad scheme they had some many years ago where it was just one ad at the beginning of a video for just 5 seconds. Non-intrusive ads that don't destroy the user experience. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I'd love to know what you think "data" means, and what "data" you think is being shared when you watch videos or browse the web. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
It’s a win for them if you are blocking ads as they are no longer having to pay the cost of serving content to a user they make no revenue from. If it’s a loss for you would depend on if you feel it’s a loss not consuming the content.
Its not like YouTube needs to offer free stuff to grow their user base anymore. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
While it may be too early, I think it's to look for alternative. Is there any? TikTok is not a proper alternative, BTW. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I suspect nobody would use YouTube Music if they didn't require it as part of the bundle. It's the reason I started using it. But I wouldn't have bothered otherwise. I was happy with Spotify previously. Now I don't use Spotify. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Thanks Grandpa | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
They dumb as fuck. Most of the YouTube ad skippers already detect in video sponsor segments and skip them. I havent seen an ad or even sponsor segment literally render into the video in years.
They think this can't be detected and skipped also?
Idiots | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
If I'm in ad tech, I'd then work it so that if all four quartile tracking pixels don't fire at their expected intervals (essentially detecting if an extension skipped the ad), I would just inject another ad. It would break the extension because now the video would just attempt to serve ad after ad after ad until it's not skipped. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
They dumb as fuck. Most of the YouTube ad skippers already detect in video sponsor segments and skip them. I havent seen an ad or even sponsor segment literally render into the video in years.
They think this can't be detected and skipped also?
Idiots | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
My 2015 is still kicking strong. Best $180 bucks I've ever spent | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I know. Hilarious the article talks about YouTube going to new lows trying to serve ads while that article has around 12 ads inter-spaced in the article, in the column to the side, as pop-ups, or as banners, but I bet I'll get downvoted for pointing it out because it's my job to adblock them. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
nope i never have to sit there in darkness, in my case (greasemonkey script) it shows the video in 480p while the ads are playing. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Yes, they'll have to make ads more content like or AI can cheaply be trained to distinguish them. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
The kind that they see | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I mean, i very much have. but no matter how many posts in a long dead forum there are about whatever extinct car, I would have never been able to figure out exactly how to extract a basically fused-in-from-rust alternator on a 95 XJ without a video. those videos live on youtube. Are you going to like, xvideos for your car tutorials? please, give me a site with better car work tutorials. I would love that. you can't even find pdf's for some owners manuals cause the manufacturer blocks them from being on the internet. the only other option is going to a large enough library that they have auto manuals as reference material and then photocopying a 150 pages at 5 cents a pop because you can't check them out. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Except youtube will be injecting ads of random length and possibly at random times in the videos, which means the ad times will no longer be consistent. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I've noticed Google has pushed all the old good resources with written explanations like old forum posts and wikiHow way down the page and instead shows you a bunch of YouTube videos. In fact most of the Google's search page these days is either ads or links to other Google properties. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Sponsorblock already takes care of those. Would work the same way if YouTube started inserting ads directly into videos, although would likely break old videos' blocking due to the old timestamps being changed around by any injected ads. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
i pay 23€/month for family premium and it is worth every €. youtube is part of our daily life, i think it deserves that money. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Firefox adblock still works. I don't have YouTube Premium and I have only seen ads on youtube away from my own computer.
Or occasionally on Discord from someone trying to show a thing via their watch-together protocol, but like, that's basically the same thing. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I always want to help out, but I swear even on newer videos the ad portions are already taken care of. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I can block youtube tho... HAHA jokes on them! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
It should be illegal to have mid roll ads longer than the video itself. I’ll sometimes get up to go to the bathroom or check my phone and then I get back to the screen and it says x ***minutes*** left.
I’ve gotten that 8 hour old spice ad, the Lego movie ad (that was the entire movie ) and my least favorite those hour long infomercials by motivational speakers on not o get rich like them | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Twitch has been baking the ads into the video stream for a while and it didn’t take long for third-party clients to start popping up that would scrub the stream. Same goes for the commercials on the Spotify free tier.
Or at least that was the case the last time I looked, but it’s been several years.
It doesn’t matter what google tries, they’ll never win the arms race against unwanted ads. There’s always a sufficiently pissed off programmer out there ready to build a better mousetrap. I know this because I’m one of them. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
do sponsors (or even creators?) have access to metrics on that? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Well, they also don't care about losing "customers" who are just stealing from them. Anyone using adblockers are not paying customers. It's much more profitable to only provide your service to those who pay for it. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
It's bad enough the try to force shorts down my throat. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
...and if they start injecting ads into the video stream then you end up with a downloaded video with ads in it. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
My fav thing to do is wait through 3 ads to finally get to a video by Linus Tech Tips who then shills more products to me via their sponsor along with the sponsor of the video on the topic they are covering. And what an amazing surprise when a quarter of the way through the video we get 2 more unskippable ads | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Yeah but I'd watch the ad if it was only one skipabble ad per every 10,000 videos I watched! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
You could either download it or install Firefox, with unlock origin and use that instead of the app. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Google is neither the biggest nor richest corporation in the world. It is pretty big and rich though | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
>It smells like accountancy shenanigans to me.
Because that's what you've decided ahead of time you want it to be. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
But nowadays we have AIs that could detect it alottt better than it could back then | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
> I can't think of any benefit for having Amazon anymore.
free 1 day shipping and their streaming service. you can say it is not worth it, but lets not pretend there isn't ANY benefit. not to mention all the other small stuff that only a subsection of people care about like Twitch Prime subs or free games/skins
also Prime music, but have not heard good things about it | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
ehh..... AI. Apple just demoed AI making ads less invasive. If they can do that, they can make it much more powerful | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Youtube ads already come from the same domain as the video, that's why pihole is unable to block them through DNS. The difference is that this is going to randomly insert the ads as a continuous part of the overall video length, meaning using timestamps to block ads will no longer work. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I have seen utube without ad blocks, i will not be using utube again. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
Why wouldn't | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
No. If I have to use an app to make another app usable, then I don’t need either. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
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