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For those of us who are forced to stay with them, look at renewing around Black Friday and Christmas. I know it isn't much but I was able to get a subscription for $30/month instead of the normal $50/month.
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2024-17-06
Because given leeway, greedy fucks will always choose profits over decency. . . Unfortunately, capitalism will always do crap like this until laws are made to stop it.
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2024-17-06
Can we get money if we were a victim?
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2024-17-06
This must be why Elon changed it to X
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2024-17-06
I wish SaaS would just die. I want to buy a full product.
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2024-17-06
Thankfully the Figma deal fell through.
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2024-17-06
Good. I've been trying to cancel my subscription with Adobe because I hardly ever use it but they would try to charge me an early cancellation fee of close to $100 and I was stuck in this subscription of $20.00 a month. I really want to cancel but how can I if they try to charge me quadruple of the monthly subscription? Makes no sense to me. I did feel like it was unfair and extremely shady and greedy but hearing that they're getting sued by the U.S. government tells me everything I needed to know about Adobe.  Honestly fuck Adobe. Will be using Canva from now on.
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2024-17-06
Interesting. Around 5 days ago, Louis Rossmann released a video about Adobe's deceptive subscriptions and cancellation methods: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cayIOCg24bE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cayIOCg24bE) Good for the Justice dept. catching up with this greedy/monopolistic company.
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2024-17-06
Need to crunch the numbers, Adobe license might be more expensive than a divorce. Any other useless subscriptions in play I wonder? HP ink?
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2024-17-06
I feel like I pushed Adobe into this by never paying for Photoshop\Illustrator since I started using it 22 years ago. Sorry folks... but it looks like based on this report that I will continue business as usual.
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2024-17-06
What happened with Best Buy?
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2024-17-06
ok, ready? A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,VV,X,Y,Z I know. I don't like me that much either
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2024-17-06
What's wrong with Canva?
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2024-17-06
Yea but at least they also have at least one they know that can download it for free too!
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2024-17-06
That was quick yo
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2024-17-06
Yes, they’re tricky AF. I used their trial once and forgot to cancel it and was charged for several months. Luckily i contacted their customer support whom is very understanding and refunded all those unused subscription months.
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2024-17-06
No, no. When the comment is very obvious like this it *shouldn't* need a sarcasm tag. And yet the number of people who will read such messages and somehow not pick up on it makes it clear to me that I need it regardless, because I get tired of pointing out that something is obvious sarcasm when they read it perfectly straight. So, I decided to include it, no matter how obvious it is to me and 99% of people reading it. Of course, the corollary to this is people commenting that I don't need the tag.
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2024-17-06
"Well, we're just not going to provide our services in the state of California then instead of doing the right thing and conforming to their laws." \-Streaming service executives, probably
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2024-17-06
Yeah they are way behind the rest of the world in digitalisation, but they have improved a lot in the last 5 years. Before this law you did need to send in a physically signed request to end the contract, so it was a step in the right direction.
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2024-17-06
Most people don't care for the definitions of words they use as pejoratives.
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2024-17-06
I don't know a single subscription service that does an immediate cancellation of service. It is at the end of the billing cycle (so a monthly one would just not pull for the next 30 day period and cancel then). I believe this is a so called joke :)
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2024-17-06
I cancelled my fucking credit card to get away from them
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2024-17-06
Cool now sue them for all the other bullshit they’re trying to pull
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2024-17-06
No one buys it and owns it, it's a subscription.
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2024-17-06
Walmart plus has somewhat of a need if you’re one of the millions who’ve slipped to 5 day shipping for Amazon prime. Walmart actually gets it there in 1-2 days
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2024-17-06
Moreso if you sign up online, you must be able to legally cancel online.
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2024-17-06
Absolutely this happened 😂😂😂😂😂 Adobe is a dog shit scum company I hope they shut them down.
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2024-17-06
I cancelled with them a couple weeks ago with no issues. The biggest hassle, aside from taking a 2 minute detour from my original path, was being asked my reason for cancellation. . . but then again, I know Planet Fitness is franchise based, so maybe the franchise owners in my area don't care to bother people with that?
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2024-17-06
"One click cancel " should be universal imho
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2024-17-06
Small businesses. It wouldn't be fair to expect some small one person company to have a fully functional and maintained website system to allow customers to cancel contracts with the click of a button. There are plenty of small businesses that are still operating using physical paperwork in Germany. I don't think it's fair to expect Jim the independent bricklayer to have a website with a cancellation button for contracts.
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2024-17-06
Can we do something about google next? Their monopoly has gone too far. They don’t even have a real customer service anymore.
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2024-17-06
I fucking love Lina Khan. Seriously no one better could have that position. She can fix so much if she gets to keep that office.
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2024-17-06
Is there any context about thanking obama? I just find it very random 😂
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2024-17-06
Their misstep is that congress doesn't own much of the company's stock.
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2024-17-06
How did you cancel?
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2024-17-06
What small business needed the *entire* Adobe suite and needed to re-buy the entire suite every few years?
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2024-17-06
No fucking way?! Adobe being anti-consumer?! Who would’ve thought?! But no seriously, fuck this company. Instead of innovating and making products worth buying, they buy up completion to gut and changed to a predatory subscription model that LOCKS YOU OUT OF YOUR OWN INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY if you don’t pay them a yearly extortion fee. FUCK adobe.
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2024-17-06
Every decent photoshop alternative can open .psd files. There's literally zero reason for anyone to use Photoshop at this point. There's no feature it has that isn't available elsewhere. Often better. Cheaper. Even free.
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2024-17-06
Yup, $22 bucks a month or $100 to cancel. Absolute B.S.
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2024-17-06
Oh the gyms are smart about that usually, they won't let you put it on a credit card you have to fork over your banking information. Makes it much harder to stop payment.
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2024-17-06
>They got enough of my money. Oh yeah definitely! The people who created it have been living it large at least since Adobe went public. Fuck the shareholders
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2024-17-06
yar har fiddle di dee... being a ______ is alright with me!
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2024-17-06
Maintaining and making sure that 1tb of yours is available 24/7 365 is what makes it expensive.
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2024-17-06
Okay. What are the actual alternatives that are packaged in a similar suite? Are they good for professional use?
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2024-17-06
This just happened to me! I was so confused cause I. Clearly remembered cancelling my subscription on the website. Went and double checked again and everything was fine. So scummy. It should be illegal.
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2024-17-06
Cool. Do Disney+ next
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2024-17-06
Glad to hear Germany's leading the way in fair subscription practices. Hope this sparks a global change! #DownWithDeceptiveSubs
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2024-17-06
I think it's high time for a massive class action lawsuit!
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2024-17-06
They also can't renew the contract for a whole year after the initial contract period. It has to be cancelable on a month by month basis. Plenty of companies still don't meet the legal requirements though. They rely on people's ignorance of the law. There needs to be stronger penalties for large companies that break the law like this
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2024-17-06
Recently I had to deal with their subcontracted licensing auditors. Jfc, these people are something else. Our Adobe environment is not complex enough (or shady) to warrant the involvement of law firms or an outright refusal to cooperate, but these idiots didn't even check the box that we had already provided the requested documents - multiple times. That was the point where they nearly got our company’s law firm involved.
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2024-17-06
You don't have to upgrade unless there's some feature you need, many people are still using CS6.
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2024-17-06
My graphic design associates degree, that I earned through service in the armed forces during a time of war, through a college that has had its location closed nearest me, relied entirely on adobe products.
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2024-17-06
2TB from google is $100 a year for 1 account, that's with full redundancy and comparability with the entire google ecosystem like photos, email, etc. this is cheap if you want a cloud storage solution with no hassle of managing your own storage array and setting up remote access with your ISP.
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2024-17-06
The ease of knowing where everything is vs having to learn the locations of stuff in a new program and then do major overhauls to work flow is what is keeping me hesitant on committing to another program. Krita is great, though some features aren't there that I'm used to, so I haven't really done much with it besides a couple small animations. I use clip studio paint for short animations, and I'm learning it slowly, but again, gotta figure out where the tools and shortcuts are that I regularly use on PS. It's just a slog to get through.
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2024-17-06
The last solo version of PS was like CS6 in 2012. I just assumed everybody switched over to GIMP by now since it's so dated. But then, I have a paid copy of the last stand alone version of Lightroom (Lr6) also released in 2012. I still use it and see no need to ever upgrade it. If Nikon comes out with a new lens I can just download it somewhere online.
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2024-17-06
Adobe act like arseholes... users flee and attempt to cancel, Adobe being Adobe are pricks about it, now held to account as their business implodes (hopefully... sheeplike consumers aside)
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2024-17-06
good luck working with modern encoding on premiere then.
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2024-17-06
HP ink is where I draw the line
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2024-17-06
Doobluh vay!
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2024-17-06
Mine does. Gotta kove antidepressants and antianxiety meds
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2024-17-06
Are Early Termination Fees allowed? That’s what really hurts. I’ve had two companies charge these, and will never return as a customer.
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2024-17-06
I remember trying to cancel an Acrobat Pro license for a client. There was literally no way to do it online, I HAD to call I love Adobe products but their licensing practices have me looking at alternatives
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2024-17-06
Can't wait for Planet Fitness to get charged with similar.
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2024-17-06
Wallstreet Journal is the same deal. Total nightmare. I won’t ever consider resubscribing to them. Totally jaded me to their brand.
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2024-17-06
It was very difficult to change my subscription so this post rings true
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2024-17-06
The hashtag, and thus the earliest documented use of the cliche, was from a right winger in 2009. In the modern day, though, you'll mainly hear it from people on the left.
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2024-17-06
Nice, thank you. Will do.
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2024-17-06
Had the worst time trying to cancel one of my subscriptions. It was almost impossible without getting on the phone to talk to “support”. I hope they lose millions in this lawsuit. They are the epitome of corporate greed.
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2024-17-06
I don’t know how long that hidden fee was there, but I still got hit with the cancellation fee when I cancelled my subscription right before the TOS change came through.
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2024-17-06
Adobe conveniently never updated the installer on my disc copy of CS4 for mac. Scumbag behavior
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2024-17-06
Bought himself a whole four letters.
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2024-17-06
Hit the investors too. Nobody should knowingly invest in such a business model.
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2024-17-06
As long as you're not drawing the line with HP ink. :)
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2024-17-06
I recall buying the Microsoft Office Educational keys from my university for like $60-70. It was a reusable OEM key so you could share it with other people, too.
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2024-17-06
I never left lol.. resolve is amazing for video editing.
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2024-17-06
Adobe is one of the scummiest businesses on the internet; there's a reason so many users of photoshop use the five finger discount.
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2024-17-06
I dont think it does. If you ignore the parts requirement, you could run a local machine on your network for less than that. I can run a pi connected to 2 hard drives for a fraction of the cost and open a port on my router to access it anywhere if I wanted to The redundancy is what I was specifically referring to. I own a 20 TB plex server and it barely costs over $100 for power per year under 40% load with high powered components. If youre using a server like this for just personal cloud storage, youre doing it wrong.
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2024-17-06
How TurboTax still gets away with this each year beats me.
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2024-17-06
Lost access to my full license lightroom, Because they said "We can't reset the activation limit. Only you can do that. What we can do tho is offer 30% off on a 1 year sub tho" I didn't know about the limit. And it was never mentioned any where that I needed to do something on my end to deactivate it before I reinstalled windows on the same computer.
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2024-17-06
borderline is adobes bread and butter.
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2024-17-06
Same here... CS6 and Win10 with the latest updates, works like a charm
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2024-17-06
And they wonder why we sail the high seas.
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2024-17-06
A lot of KDE software is available on Windows. Pretty much all of it high quality.
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2024-17-06
The pros are that no one has to live on the streets and the cons are that the 1% get slightly less money.  The fact that the richest nation on earth has 38 million people living in poverty is baffling to me.
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2024-17-06
Dish Networks is a major offender. You have to argue with support for a while before they transfer you to their “disconnect” department, which is actually their customer retention department, where they make up shit to try to keep you; “Let’s see… we’ll have to cancel your $20 coupon..”. There is no coupon. Made up on the spot… oh yeah, almost forgot: fuck Adobe
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2024-17-06
Good, Adobe is such a scummy company. I've been using so many alternatives
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2024-17-06
You used to be able to **buy** the office suite for around that price.
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2024-17-06
This happened to me.
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2024-17-06
Bring back Adobe Fireworks!
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2024-17-06
This is good because it regulates these industries so tech giants can’t get away with anything.
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2024-17-06
I had for years an expensive adobe business subscription. When I finally could get rid of it, I discovered the only way to do that was by chatting online with them. Some dude -probably in a low wage country- went "I see you want to cancel, how about a discount?" - I refused 4 times ever increasing discounts. In the end the price he was offering was literally 1/7 of the recurring price (forever), half a year free, and with all functionality still in it. At that point I got mad. I told him to stop making ever lower offers as he was making sure I felt ripped off for years and would never buy anything from Adobe ever again. Apparently that finally did the thing and he cancelled the subscription. But well the LPT to remember: if you need a subscription: try to cancel, see how low they go with offers for you and push it till they give you a permanent discount in addition to temporary benefits. Even if they don't you can always resubscribe - but getting it at 1/17 of the regular price really is worth it ... \[even if you can afford it - do it for the rest who need them to realize their crap is too expensive\]
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2024-17-06
Just pirate it. If you have moral qualms, remember that you are sacrificing your soul for the good of humanity.
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2024-18-06
[You can buy Microsoft Office Home & Student for $150 right now.](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/buy/compare-all-microsoft-365-products?culture=en-us&country=us) They still offer it as a one time purchase. You only get Word, Excel, and PowerPoint, but for most people that's all they need. You're calculation only makes sense if you need 6 licenses. If you only want 1 or 2 the one time purchase is definitely cheaper.
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2024-18-06
People should be allowed to be stupid (or just tired or distracted) without getting scammed for it by people intentionally manipulating that they are stupid.
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2024-18-06
If it's free, you are the product.
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2024-18-06
Or, and hear me out here, we pay *once* for a product license and are free to use it without further payment like we used to be able to.
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2024-18-06
I've been seeing [coupons for a single lifetime sub](https://www.cnet.com/deals/only-hours-remain-to-get-microsoft-office-for-windows-or-mac-for-just-30/) to office 2019 for $30. That said.... yaharr.
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2024-18-06
It's not an extremely limited subset. [They still sell Word, Excel, and PowerPoint for $150.](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/buy/compare-all-microsoft-365-products?culture=en-us&country=us) Those are by far the most popular applications for home use.
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2024-18-06
Just plain crooked. I don’t get why big tech hires so many C-levels they don’t come from a culture of business ethics. Of course this is what happens. 
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2024-18-06
I got sucked into a NYT subscription a few years ago, $1 a week for a year or something. The only way to cancel was to phone them, and the number was buried on their website. If anyone answered that line, they left you on hold til you gave up. It literally took me 6 months to cancel.
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