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Big game fever is reaching a fevered pitch as the fevered rivalry between Springfield U and Springfield A&M spreads like wild fever! In preparation for the big game, Springfield Stadium has caught Additional-Seating-Capacity fever!
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2024-05-06
I pity any AI that uses me as a base. Even if it's just a smidge.
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2024-05-06
The best we can probably hope for is they pull it back, then try again under a rebrand They’re not going to abandon the idea of the control this hand businesses over remote workers; those are clients that will pay for it, while expecting the rest of us will choose the home version for familiarity and ease of compatibility using their vertically integrated monopoly.
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2024-05-06
Doing that too. As soon as viable alternative is here I am absolutely done with Reddit
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2024-05-06
If they recall it but then introduce it at a later date is it a recall recall recall?
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2024-05-06
The issue with Recall isn't data privacy, since the data is only stored and processed locally. It's just that the local data will be a juicy target for hackers.
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2024-05-06
Watch, this will be hidden if not already in the OS and will allow Law enforcement the option to turn it on (unhide the button) when seizing equipment.
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2024-05-06
They need to do a product recall on their Recall product
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2024-05-06
I used to have a job where I had to gently talk executives off the ledge when it came to AI/ML by pointing out that, as cool as ML sounds, there are cheaper and easier and more reliable ways to achieve their goals in less time. And then they can build the data collection infrastructure to do proper ML, once they are sure they really need to go for it. Unfortunately, not many people get it.
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2024-05-06
this is (allegedly) not about providing **training data**, as (allegedly) all data will be stored locally. This is about providing **context data**. So now, instead of googling/chatgpting: > "I have X setup, on Y OS, trying to run Z program, and getting: [Insert error code here]. I have already tried steps A,B,C to resolve. Still not working." You can directly (in theory) say: > "why am I getting this error?" because the AI has context of everything going on in your computer. In an ideal world, this is useful. In practice, we don't know.
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2024-05-06
What do you mean? They learned "don't do it *before* you have a monopoly on the category. What are people going to to do? Switch to Linux? I did (long ago), but for most people it's like saying "I'm going to move to Canada" in that they'll threaten it but never actually do it. Buy mac? All the drawbacks of Linux but it's expensive too. Microsoft's only real competition for desktop OSs is their own older versions.
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2024-05-06
From a technical perspective, the Downloads folder is just a directory like any other. The analogy with a mailbox isn't really fair, because we obviously see why the real world effects of that would be ridiculous. A mailbox is usually away from your actual domicile, either on the first floor in a condo building, or a bit aways if you have a house. It's annoying to access cos you usually need to step out of your front door to get to it. But from a computers perspective, it doesn't really make a difference whether users chuck all their files in Documents, in properly labelled subdirs, or if they leave everything on their desktop/Downloads folder. Recycle bin is different. It's explicitly a place for files to temporarily go to once they're deleted. It's a feature to allow users to recover data they delete by accident. If users use it for stupid reasons, that's on them. But there is no such specialty purpose behind the Downloads folder, or any other folder under the user directory.
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2024-05-06
Strictly speaking, the Recall feature has privacy. The major problem is windows is not the most secure thing. Getting hacked means that the recall data could be accessible, even if it is encrypted with bitlocker. The data doesn't get uploaded (it's been tested by professionals).
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2024-05-06
Do what I do, don't spell check, skip words. And type badly. Humans will still care about the point being made, while the ai struggles to understand. As for potentially sounding dumb, that doesn't really bug .e.
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2024-05-06
And I think you ignored my entire point.
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2024-05-06
I mean sure? A reduction is better than nothing so at the very end a user can appreciate that. There is a large difference between commenting and posting on Reddit vs having literal screenshots of what you’re doing.
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2024-05-06
In fairness, the data was scraped long before Reddit sold it. It's available. I have no problem with publicly posted information being publicly consumed. But things I do on my own devices, or in places with the illusion of privacy are different.
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How is that good news? Next step, we will have a law to force all new births to have blue eyes. Why?
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2024-05-06
They probably hate disabled children and doesn’t want them to be given a chance at a normal life. lol
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Yeah, heat pumps are the way. Even in the extremes... they are so incredibly efficiently relative to the alternatives. Places the coldest, longest winters tend to need to supplement, though, but normal American winters are not a problem for even the northern states typically. Heat pumps can operate well into the negative temps before more specialized heat pumps become necessary.
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2024-05-06
Did it get any % better? No. Greed.
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2024-05-06
My area proposed a more than 100% increase to delivery fees as well as a huge increase in power costs. We’re getting fucked every which way and there’s not much we can do about it.
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2024-05-06
Unless it’s PG&E, who are gouging customers to punish customers for PG&E’s fault in wildfires.
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2024-05-06
Not much relief for rentals, I just have to eat the bill
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2024-05-06
PG&E will definitely pump those numbers up this year.
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2024-05-06
Agree, 3 years with solar.
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2024-05-06
We all really need to stop spreading dumb shit like this. Houses have not doubled in value in the last 4 years. They have increased quite a bit but nothing near double. Wages have not stagnated, they've increased. The gap may have widened, which we should all complain about, but you are blowing things wayyyy out of proportion and it's detrimental to the arguments made to reduce the wage/housing gap.
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2024-05-06
I hope you saved your ice. 
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2024-06-06
Interesting. I wonder if them not accounting for inflation against their own P&L’s actually puts them outta business one day, if they can’t raise rates to adapt.
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2024-07-06
Whose P&L's? The solar equipment company?
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2024-07-06
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2024-05-06
“His brain is no longer functional, but we now have the technology to save him!”
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2024-05-06
A full body transplant is WAY easier than than a head transplant.
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2024-05-06
I think it’s been a fringe medical thing since the early 1900s. I think there was a dog at first. Then in the 70s a monkey.
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2024-05-06
Yes. Editors of the Independent think that “they” are their bodies and their heads are just like finger nails. Actually, that kind of mentality explains a lot regarding mainstream media.
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2024-05-06
Dr Walter Bishop thinks it could be done.
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2024-05-06
Considerably more than a ''head' transplant. From the article: > He believes that surgeons would not only have to transplant a person’s head, but place their entire spinal cord into another body.
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2024-05-06
To make this work they’d have to cure paraplegia due to severed spinal cord. Which would be a much cooler advance.
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2024-05-06
I hope so. I could seriously use head.
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2024-05-06
Obligatory [Head of Vecna story](https://www.rpglibrary.org/articles/storytelling/headofvecna.php)
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2024-05-06
> I think there was a dog at first. Then in the 70s a monkey. They should have combined research efforts in order to make a monkey dog.
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2024-05-06
Would that mean, theoretically, we could cure people with paralysis?
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2024-05-06
No. Why would it? Even on a single body we have skin that is obviously at different levels of aging, mostly depending on sun exposure. 
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2024-05-06
It kind of is though. Last I heard about this they were planning to extricate nerve bundles as far down to their destination as possible so the brain has less rewiring to do. Currently they have no way to cut and rejoin thousands of nerve fibres at a single location and have any hope of functionality.
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2024-05-06
Aliens COULD show up by 2030 and invite us to their dinner party Trump COULD become a democrat by 2030 Biden COULD run for a 4th term in 2030 The Roman Empire COULD emerge from a fissure in the earth and declare that they had been hiding for 2000 years A lot of things "could" happen. That doesn't really mean anything
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2024-05-06
I’ll wait and see if they can get the whole body transplant perfected first.
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2024-06-06
They can’t even cure paralysis in spinal cord injury patients and they say they can transplant a head? Load of 💩
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2024-05-06
Microsoft has just been a virtual monopoly for so long that is simply has no reason to care about users want or needs. It thinks that it can do whatever it likes and the users will just bend over and let Bill slip to them. And the worst thing? They're right. Moving away from Windows requires learning a new OS, people are fundamentally lazy and giving away your rights is easy, it requires zero effort. So the vast majority of the user base will just comply and a new normal will be achieved.
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2024-05-06
Because of the technical merits and their record on user privacy, or because it's the only OS that has support from certain 3rd party hardware and software vendors?
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2024-05-06
Agreed. 3rd party video driver support could be better, especially with hardware acceleration enabled.
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...or, If you lack talent and/or creativity, don't be a photographer.
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2024-05-06
I was an engineer at MS for 15 years. At no point did we have enough extra processing power to do what Recall does without hurting system performance. Recall is doing a lot more than just capturing screenshots.
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2024-05-06
yeah it's using picture to text which is also pretty old technology there's nothing innovative about this only another unwanted "feature"
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2024-05-06
No... that is not what's it's doing but I realize that /r/tech is filled with people who wouldn't know what `KiUserExceptionDispatcher` is even if they were hit over the head with it. The actual processing is happening at ring-0 and is utilizing a custom LSTM across a stream of images so that it can evaluate "intent", not just "hey you have 3 folders on your Desktop". I miss the days when this sub was filled with people who were *creating* technology instead of people who spend most of their time in /r/UFOs.
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2024-05-06
Sounds like you are offended we don't appreciate the feature you are working on. You have no clue what our experience is. It's up to you to decide how you react, and it only impacts you in the end. Insulting those around you doesn't work to convince anyone.
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2024-05-06
Lmao. I think you touched a nerve. 
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2024-05-06
> Applications like this have been around for over 20 years. I'm not offended just because you think that LSTM functionality have existed for "20 years". My point is that you have absolutely no idea how this is implemented. I do. I'm a ring-0 engineer who has to pay attention to any background overhead that exceeds a single thread's quantum. The current Recall functionality works within this requirement. But since you claim these tools have existed for 20 years: name one. And, of course, anything you name has to support multi-image intention analysis. Let's have a technical discussion since you are obviously qualified. ;-) Lastly, I think this is one of the worst things MS has tried to release in years. Still doesn't change the way it is implemented though.
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2024-05-06
Greed. Control. Money. Profit over everything else. I mean get with the program already, jeez 🙄
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2024-05-06
“I do find it a little funny, though, that there's so much negative public opinion surrounding Windows Recall, and yet, there are already efforts underway to recreate it. Maybe, the idea at least, isn't quite as bad as some would have us believe? “ Or it’s everyone possible jumping on the wagon to make a buck.
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2024-05-06
Don't you love it? Employers finally will be able to reassert the control they lost thanks to WFH. Truly marvelous how people come together to solve the problems they're really worried about.
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2024-05-06
I don't know if all replications are the same but the example is open source which is far different from Microsofts closed source. The replications are made so they can save users that potentially wants to use the feature but don't wanna give all that data to Microsoft.
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2024-05-06
I'm an engineer on the [Darwin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_\(operating_system\)) team at Apple. I'm happy to discuss AI, operating system development, etc. A number of people have *tried* to explain this tech to you. You've yet to make a single valid point. I looked through this thread and you've yet to tell people what you do for a living, what your experience is, etc. It obviously isn't OS components.
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2024-05-06
Duh they are called keyloggers
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2024-05-06
What do you mean? It solves the gluttonous greed of investors that lose their coke-addled hard-ons when profits dip below values that are exponentially higher than last quarter. In that regard, Microsoft’s solution to completely sell out their user base is a rousing success!
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2024-05-06
I feel like this has to be so easy to go so wrong so quickly. A) People are fucking stupid and larger data sets do not always equate to better sets of data. B)What happens when this data inevitably gets fucked with? “Cortana, open Facebook and show me the pictures from my sister’s family trip. NOOO CORTANA!!! I did not say open pornhub and show me pictures of big tiddy goth girls”. C) What happens when it is inevitably subject to cyberattacks? Suddenly some Russian teens drunk on piss vodka are Yoloing petabytes of every Americans key strokes, mouse clicks, browser views, and hand strokes. “Mr. President, Russia is about to release your search history!!” DJT -“Ask Pooty if he’d release the peepee tapes instead and I’ll give him submarine locations too?” D) Like what is this going to do to system performance? Having something constantly track everything a user does on a system just sounds like it will bog things down. Lastly would there help ways to prevent this? Software that disables it? Router side prevention?
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2024-05-06
Principle Architect with 30 years of experience, but that doesn't matter on the internet.
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2024-05-06
Smartphones walked so LLMs could run lmao
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2024-05-06
It's a bandwagon. Microsoft releases a new feature, and that legitimizes it in the customer's mind because they assume Microsoft has done their due diligence/safety reviews/etc. They'll see an online offer to download a "free version of Recall" and think "this is safe, Microsoft does it for free too" and suddenly they're compromised. Any malware/scam vendor not jumping on this opportunity is losing out, because Microsoft threw a door open for them.
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2024-05-06
That's kind of like saying just avoid laptops with windows installed on them CoPilot+ requires an NPU with 40+ TOPS, currently there is none on the market. But within a year there will be Snapdragon, HawkPoint and Lunar Lake, within 5 years, do you think there will be laptops that aren't copilot+?
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2024-05-06
That is my current sentiment as well. However, when this all finally works as intended, everyone will be using it. This will be similar to how credit cards online was first considered insane. Now, people don't blink an eye. And whatever the identity theft statistics are right now, is ignored, until it happens to you. Then you care, and sometimes scarred for life. lol.
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2024-05-06
It just feels so unnatural and awkward. That might change if I did it more but maybe I'm just old now so I don't see the point.
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2024-05-06
I heard there's going to be a version that sneaks in false screenshots of activity you never actually did called Total Recall.
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2024-05-06
> what problem is this the solution to Microsoft not getting enough of your usage data.
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2024-05-06
Dunno why this is so heavily downvoted; the fully remote jobs that are out there have OBSCENE levels of competition. I can't get my foot in the door anywhere for an interview. 12 years of C# / .NET development.
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2024-05-06
I don’t ever want the computer to understand how I talk to it. It wouldn’t be happy.
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2024-05-06
Were you forced to use Cortana? No. We all just turned it off.
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2024-05-06
Think about the movie Her. How would a personal assistant be able to help you without having access to all your data? You want your assistant to call your mum? Of course you have to give it access to your contacts. To look at your schedule? Of course you have to give it access to your calendar. To see what you're working on and help your research or reword something? Of course it has to have access to the entire document. Now, do you think the user actually would have a seamless experience, giving permission for every single thing? Every document, every contact? No, but that's what Apple does. That's what Google does, etc. They ask you, then you give permission if you want. It's exactly like how Instagram and every file hosting website needs your permission to use and share your images. Otherwise, they can't do the file hosting. If you don't like it, don't use Instagram. Don't use Cortana. Don't use Recall. No one is forcing you.
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2024-05-06
Having tried setting up custom shit with voice attack I can only confirm - making a keyboard macro is almost always the easier (not to mention consistent) way
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2024-05-06
‘bash cat with pipe’ ‘kill child with fork’ without context, those would make it seem like i’m a murderous animal abuser, when I was just trying to write a script that did some bulk file processing
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I'm surprised /r/technology has so many simpletons who do not understand Recall is not uploading GBs of video stream to train their AI. It's local. It's optional. Turn it off like Cortana if you don't like it.
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2024-05-06
They did the same thing with .NET when it came out. A name starts hitting and they slap that on anything. Then it creates confusion.
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2024-05-06
"Huh... this would work great for advertising and data brokers" -- An MBA dusts off some old malware
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2024-05-06
They said this about having to have an online account to use Windows. In Win 10 you could opt out, it just really pushed you not to. In Win 11, you can't opt out.
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2024-05-06
It isn't because people necessarily want it though, investors in data brokers and AI that is used for ad intel really want it. It may have some uses for when you want to turn it on, but for the most part it is excessive memory/storage/processing with bulky verbose data and lots of noise. Just save the things you want to keep and use history when needed, like editing a doc or code for rollbacks. You don't really need all the extra processing to capture 99% noise along with *tons of confidential information that will be sifted*
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2024-05-06
"Doesn't look like anything to me" -- Windows Defender
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2024-05-06
Then it's stored on their local PC. It's not sent to Microsoft. What do you not understand? Are you worried about hackers? The hackers that have been hacking emails for the past few decades without Recall?
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2024-06-06
Yeah well that’s just like your opinion man.
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2024-06-06
Yes please don't worry. We wouldn't wanna make it any easier for the hackers /s There are already proof of concept exploits and it's been shown to be a plain text database with no encryption.
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2024-06-06
If a hacker has access to your PC, they can already access your emails, cookies, saved passwords, etc as they have been doing for the past decades. Once again, just turn it off. Hackers don't need some fancy AI software that uses like 10%+ of your resources when there are far more light weight keyloggers and screen recorders.
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