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We want. More. Munn-eh. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
>Friendly reminder that piracy is a free service
no, it is more like when a Boeing CEO does cost cutting that increases risk and profit a bit. Maybe it won't bite you in the ass in the next X years but you never know.
That said, the thing that is most likely to push people like me to piracy is all the platforms **introducing commercials**. In the early days, the big selling point in my mind of streaming vs cable was the lack of commercial. Now that CATV is withering the capitalist enshittification of video streaming can occur. Of course the other option is to just unplug. It is not like streaming media is a necessity. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
What in the world from my comment makes you think I don't understand exactly what you just said or how taxes work?
The person above me said they should just pull out. My response was why would they do that?
They will just charge the consumer a bit more. Nowhere did I say anything that contradicts anything you said.
I didn't even say if I thought it was a bad or good thing.
*Edit, username checks out. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
This kind of tax should be based on the mystical “shareholder values” so that they aren’t easily passed onto consumers. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Hell, let’s make it 10% - those service fees ain’t gonna fee themselves… | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
As a general principle governments need money to operate. They can
1. Tax the public.
2. Tax corporations. Those corporations can make the decision on whether they want to pass those costs on. Then the public can make the decision with their wallets. A lot of people drop every time streamers increase costs. Doesn’t apply to necessities, but does Netflix isn’t a necessity.
3. Borrow money.
I vote for 2 as I as the consumer gets more power to decide.
Yes they can decrease spending, etc. but that’s a different conversation. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Every country should do the same | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
We already pay more in Canada as it's taxed....it's fucking B's and I've cancelled last month my Netflix because my 9.99 plan no longer exists....I'm sorry I'm not paying 20$ a month for 2 screens when I was paying 10$....it's like almost 30$ for the 4k + 4 screens and without that account share working fuck Netflix. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
its not "just a tax", its taking existing cancon laws and updating them to apply to streaming services so they are subject to the same rules as broadcast tv and radio. Its money collected that is used to fund canadian content. While in practice who qualifies needs some fixing it is broadly a good thing for canadians and the country and part of why canada has produced as much content as it has. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
r/FREEMEDIAHECKYEAH is a decent resource for all things 'sailing'. 🙂 | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
I mean, the news is Canadians are about to pay 5% more for Netflix. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Cancelled Netflix 4 price hikes ago. No regrets. If we all spoke with our wallets more often maybe the greed would subside. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Canada does that too but the music and movie industries refuses to take the money. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
I'm not giving my secrets away to the FBI. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
That’s not like them to leave money on the table. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
But you have “free” and superior healthcare. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
I'm not saying I've never made a mistake, but the person you're replying to didn't say anything about making billions "in Canada". Might want to check you can read before trying to use it as an insult. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
The food regulators actually regulate though. The CRTC is completely captured by the industries it's suppose to oversee and does little to nothing for the average Canadian. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Netflix has filmed a lot throughout Canada, so probably benefited from the grants. I'm sure they passed on their savings to their consumers! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
"Secrets" lmao. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
No, in the case of 1, everyone is taxed. In the case of 2, only those who use the service are taxed. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Then it sounds fine. Thanks. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Well in this case it is not really a free market, as there are only a few huge actors, basically an oligopoly. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
"The fees apply to both video and music streaming services. The CRTC imposed the rules despite opposition from Amazon, Apple, Disney, Google, Netflix, Paramount, and Spotify." | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Right on dude because the CRTC is somehow equivalent to regulating our food standards and safety. Are you by chance one of the bureaucrats that basically feed from the public teat? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Ok. I’ll agree with you there. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
I guess I forgot that Netflix is required to live and everyone gets Netflix content streamed into their bloodstream. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
They have no trouble raising prices anyway. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
The only reason we have the big 3 (originally 2) is because of the CRTC. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
They created the problem to begin with. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Probably because of dropping revenues from terrestrial radio and tv | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
> Actually it's a 5% tax on Netflix
Title literally says Canada demands 5% of revenue **from Netflix, Spotify, and other streamers**
It's a tax on streaming. The Canadian government decided to make streaming more expensive for Canadians because they know the cost will be passed on to consumers. You can be mad about it or not, I don't care. But a government taxing streaming is not an example of corporate greed, it's an example of government greed. It's also just business as usual. It's just another tax, and I'm sure they have reasons for it, just like every other tax levied. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
You tend to keep up with all the tax news in Canada? You hear that? They’ve just added two more while I wrote this comment. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Canada taking a page from the Europeans? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Turns out the customers budget for streaming didn't go up and had to drop one subscription. Netflix just lost even more money. Guess they should lower prices to prevent themselves from being the subscription that's dropped. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
If those workers didn't make them money then they would have already been laid off. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
If you have a firestick or chromecast/android type thing, you should look into IPTV services.
$75 for a year and you get all the channels and VOD. The stream quality isn’t 4k but if you had the lower Netflix plan, I doubt that is an issue.
If you are interested shoot me a dm and I’ll point you to where you need to go.
Sort of like those OG black cable boxes from the 90s | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
They heard how much XQC was makin | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Idk that doesn't change the analysis for me. What is funny is that despite being an oligopoly, streaming doesn't necessarily rake in the profits...so it is not obvious that consumers were getting screwed pre this 5% tax. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
They want money. From the Internet? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Free coupons to Bennigan's and bubble gums, it is. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Bell and Cogeco are in a price war in my area. I don't think the CRTC has anything to do with this. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
the new law is literally a tax law so yes | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
CANADA on strike | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
>I mean the leap of logic that you need to have to assume they are ever going to go after the consumer in cases like these is extreme.
yeah, because this has never happened before
* [https://torrentfreak.com/200000-bittorrent-users-sued-in-the-united-states-110808/](https://torrentfreak.com/200000-bittorrent-users-sued-in-the-united-states-110808/)
* [https://www.newmediarights.org/business\_models/guide\_defendants\_mass\_copyright\_lawsuits\_bit\_torrent\_filesharing\_cases](https://www.newmediarights.org/business_models/guide_defendants_mass_copyright_lawsuits_bit_torrent_filesharing_cases)
LOL | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Or just fist the greedy corporations and sail the red seas 🏴☠️ | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
I think you’re asking the wrong question.
The question is what should foreign corporations contribute to Canada for being able to sell their foreign produced content here?
It’s called giving back. The price they pay is helping develop Canadian entertainment which has a huge disadvantage vie cause it’s always compared to American content which has budgets orders of magnitude higher.
Oh and then they can carry those Canadian shoes as well, so it’s not entirely a loss for them | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
How much Cana-dough can you afford? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
What, like tax? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Every alien planet looks like Vancouver for a reason. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Otherwise known as tax. And why shouldn’t countries receive tax from all companies that do business there. Otherwise it’s just a syphon that results in less money for the people, over time. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
I have recently started sailing the high seas again after more than a decade ashore, and I get the sense that I am not the only one to do so. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
This is kind of needed. Canadian media is dying, big American companies just coming in taking over market share and contributing very little back to the Canadian economy. Netflix barely even employees people in Canada, they just do it all from the US, and maybe have a barebones sales staff in Canada. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Except it is. Just because something is allowed doesn't make it not greedy. A company that is making minimal to no profit increasing prices to survive would not be greedy, a company making a healthy profit increasing prices to prevent that profit from being reduced a bit is being greedy. Because of the generally accepted and baked in directive for public companies to maximize shareholder value by any and all legal means, they are greedy by default. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
FYI almost every single broadcast show between the late 80's to 2010 and a not insignificant amount of modern TV is filmed in B.C. Canada.
Not saying it justifies the tax. Just that a shit load of movies and broadcast TV films in Canada. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
I use Usenet.
My ISP can see packets moving, but they have no idea what they are since Usenet posts are all obfuscated these days and my connection is encrypted.
Slowly building up my tv/movie/audiobook personal media server. Yo ho ho. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
we have the same in switzerland, same 5% | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
CANADIAN CONTENT SUCKS ASS \~ A \_not so\_ proud Canadian. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
yes correct. It both creates job and stimulates the economy while also ensuring the Canadian culture and content is not overwhelmed by american and going by how it worked with it and radio it has been a success. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
no i said its not "just a tax" as in it is a tax + more. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Probably even with an inconvenient bump of an extra % or 2. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
And then just blame the government for forcing their hands | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
There's no "we", stranger | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
A 5% tax on revenue is insane and not how taxing businesses should work | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Canada has a lack-of-taxation issue, our provinces keep cutting gov revenue but costs don't magically go away.
Except it's not you & me that is lacking being taxed. It's the rich, the real rich not people making $250k that Trudeau thinks count as "rich". Imo if you're making less than $12m a year you're paying too much tax, and everyone making more is paying way too little. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Tax on a luxury product that goes directly back into the Canadian arts scene. I am sure it could be better, but I am more than happy to have that fund. There are so many good little Canadian shows and this is where that money goes to. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
At some point the tax is so high people lose incentive to make more money, but 5% is definitely well below that number. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
The Canadian government gets to raise taxes on everyone that disproportionally affects the poor and middle class compared to the rich. They get to look like good guys taxing the corporations when in reality they are just taxing the people. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
No no no all roads lead to OMG TrUdEaU SuCkS We NeEd To ElEcT A TrUmP ClOnE!!!!! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
You wouldn’t download money. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
[Canada on strike](https://youtu.be/h0ZXUoewGWQ?si=xoT5pdYeLvI1Rz4u) | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Do whatever you want, I am struggling to see why should I pay for it. Whether those shows are worth making should be left to viewers and their wallets. We shouldn't be creating industries to employ rich kids who want to spend their parents' money studying filmmaking or some other useless crap. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Except the rules of broadcast TV and radio were made in ancient times and were not intended for a medium like the internet. They were intended for mediums with limited "channels", so that we could reserve some for Canadian content. The internet has no such limitation and trying to apply the same rules to it is asinine. The entire purpose it is being done is to prop up the existing oligopolies so that new players can't get into the market due to all of the shitty rules. There is no one asking for this in Canada except big business like Bell, Rogers etc. Don't pretend like Canadians want this, it's a scam. There is no lack of Canadian content online. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
If it wasn't for the NDP desperately clinging to power, the Cons would have wiped out the CBC already. Just watch. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Prices will go up 10% to cover the 5% | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Does Schitt's Creek count? Because that was an excellent Canadian production. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Do they actually have majority support among the younger people who actually produce and consume streaming content, or is it just a bunch of people with one foot already in the grave who want it to be the 1960s again? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
>These services could just increase their Canadian prices.
"TAX THE RICH!" They say. Unknowing it will bite them in the ass. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
The US is in a completely different situation so yeah reactions probably would also be different.
If streaming was dominated by like 2 Romanian companies and US film and TV was dying off as a result, you better believe the US government would intervene and peoples sentiment would be supportive. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
That often happens so that companies can maintain their profit margins.
Imagine I sell shoes for 10$, and they cost me 5$ to make, so I have a 50% gross profit margin.
If I suddenly get taxed $0.50, and I increase my prices by $0.50, now I'm selling shoes for 10.50$ while it costs me 5.50$ to make.
So now my gross profit margin has gone down to 47.5%.
For some businesses, it might not matter at all because their net margin is so high anyway. But if a company has a low net profit margin, that could actually make the company unprofitable and start losing money on their shoe sales.
I'm not trying to simp for corporations, and they will definitely take any opportunity they can to increase prices. But there is some actual reasoning for why we see disproportionate increases in the final price compared to the increase in costs. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
It's basically the later. A bunch of grey heads with close ties to the liberal party. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
True it’s a tariff. But it’s more like if you tariff foreign content platforms which you have little control over (just for the sake of example: TikTok) to subsidize funding to domestic independent content creators. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-05-06 |
Not on the revenue it wasn't before.
But it's good.
And you know what: we should introduce exactly this for every major fucking corporation everywhere, looking mostly at fossil fuel companies and miners for example.
But we should set it a lot higher than 5%.
Good luck moving your profit out of the country when it's revenue based! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-06-06 |
A business sells a product. I don't care the make up of that product. If I go to a restaurant and order a $20 meal for takeout it should be $20. Not $20+$2 pickup fee+$2 utensils and baggage+sugar drink surcharge +suggested 20%tip+. 10% tax +$3 for condiments... Forget the delivery apps, pickup that's... I don't even know who I'm tipping. I'm in a city but often pay 2x sticker price for my prepared food. Supermarkets are doing and have been the same. Steak $35.unless you have a coupon. Or phone app. Or card. My local grocery requires a phone app to scan while you shop. I'm in the field and they also use this to track you as you go through the store, where you spent time, all tied to how much and what you bought. All that info is sold. And shared building a valuable global profile of you | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-06-06 |
Have you read about game theory? There are models where both parties don't lose... | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-06-06 |
Hollywood movies are mostly filmed in states with lower taxes. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-06-06 |
Yeah Netflix has some pretty shit stuff. I never liked I never liked beach combers myself but I guess there were enough people that did.
now Street Cents...that was some quality entertainment, educational too. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-06-06 |
Is there anything that isn’t taxed? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-06-06 |
One day Canadians will figure out that the CRTC is just a lobbying organization for big Telecom and economically non viable Canadian content producers... but it is not this day. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-06-06 |
>homegrown Canadian programming.
Ew. Please, I'm trying to keep my dinner inside my stomach. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-06-06 |
>This however never included online streaming services (Netflix, Amazon) so this really is just levelling the playing field.
A better way to level the playing field would be to stop taking money from broadcasters to give to projects that no one wants to watch. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-06-06 |
Not just actors, but untalented writers, directors and producers too! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-06-06 |
Since when does J.J. McCullough represent all Canadian creators? Did I miss a vote? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-06-06 |
“If you cannot afford to create art without the government paying for it, it means that you are just not good enough and you should find an honest way to make a living.”
California and all of these states provide arts subsidies, but perhaps they should not, based on this logic?
https://film.ca.gov/tax-credit/the-basics-3-0/
CanCon is basically the same tax credit scheme but for Canada. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-06-06 |
Gotta keep the French culture alive for literally no reason. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-06-06 |
Selling what? You just use your own firestick and login to an app | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-06-06 |
Wake me up when they demand 5% of revenue from torrent trackers. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-06-06 |
Get ready for your monthly payment to go up boys… they’re not paying that | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-06-06 |
So what's your take? Should taxes simply be removed altogether as they're just getting pasaed on the customers? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-06-06 |
Yes. He also had small parts in “Goosebumps” and “Are You Afraid of the Dark?” | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-07-06 |
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