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I like them for not having the planned obsolecence, but yeah, that + high interest rates and actual competition makes the sales market much rougher.
Only thing they have going for them is FSD, and if ford actually manages to go from pretty crap to 80mph level 3 in a year, they wont have that any more either | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Maybe rather than making so many cars, send the parts out to your service centers and make them available via 3rd parties so that the repair costs can go down, and insurance rates won’t be quite so crazy. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
There’s no convincing people on here that FSD is good.
I daily drive with FSD and have used it for around 7k KM of driving. Is it perfect, nope - but is mind blowing how good it is, and it will only get better with every update. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Complaint was made and update was delivered in 18ish hours. That's not an assumption. There are actually timestamps on Twitter. Based on that and my experience, it's a totally reasonable deduction that proper testing was bypassed. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
That's exactly what she has now, so yeah. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
This is why I lease. New car every year baby | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Imagine forgetting that kids can also ride bikes lmfao
Like, they kind of famously ride them a lot.
It’s okay I’m the dumb one though hahahaha | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Nah man i live in an apartment and drive a VW. But having a big yard and a boat does sound nice. I'd prefer that. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Yea I could but I'm not gonna sell my reliable transportation for 10k lmao. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
You only have 200k? Dude I've driven around the sun and back and plan on giving my car to my great grandchildren | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Trouble with dropping the price is it lowers the value of existing already sold cars, which lowers people’s confidence in it.
I read a story the other day, a dude got in a crash with his new Tesla, it was insured for market value but since the market value had dropped so drastically he wasn’t able to pay off his loan with the insurance payout. That story made me not want to buy a Tesla. (I mean I already didn’t want one but I wanted one less after reading that) | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Are they keeping the charge up on the batteries? I feel like rotating that many cars to get a charge every few weeks would be a full time job. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Ugly cars made by ugly people. I wouldn't want to be associated with that brand of it was the only thing that would keep me from dying. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
From orbit with the naked eye? I can see my car on Google Maps. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
depending on the car you have it makes more sense to get the Tesla for 10k over keeping the one you have.
my car is getting real old and at this point the next major repair won't be worth it bc of how much the car is worth. no telling how big the repair is going to be and how many days it'll take.
my last car i had it started having the same issue it had before a major repair after about 7 years. i knew it would cost about the same and the cost of the actual car wasn't worth throwing more money into, not to mention missed days of work. got a 2nd car lined up (cheap, cash purchase) and sold the old one.
you can make things work with a couple hundred here, couple hundred there in small repairs but all those costs add up not just financially but with time spent and emotional stress. no fun having your car die out on the highway or when it won't start going to/leaving work. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Hey, I mistyped, that’s on me. Let me fix that.
I remain unconvinced by your *opinion*. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Fantastic. I’d like deflation when you’re trying to buy something | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
You are trying to apply some sort of ideal lifestyle that just doesnt work for 90 percent of the modern US. If bikes worked so well, being that they're so much cheaper, it stands to reason that many more people would lead a car free lifestyle. Its just not the reality . More power to you peddling around, but don't pretend that its feasible for most people. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Lol everything he touches turns to shit. He certainly isn't going to be the pillar of interstellar travel | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
I guess this is why Elon sold stock? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
if I look up my old house on google maps I can clearly see my car, just one car, which is a photo taken from orbit.
tesla makes bad cars and elon musk is one of the worst people alive, but lmao, what a stupid fucking headline. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
I don’t think they want to. That’s just all they are capable of making. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
> So actually what he was left with was ~$10k (or however much it was) in debt, and no car.
Yes, looked at in this instant, he does not have a car any more, which indeed appears like a much worse situation. But now he can buy a new "like" car (with a new loan), and be the same amount in debt as he was on the day before the accident - no less, but also no more.
Whether he has 1 or 2 (or 0) loans to service is mostly a difference of paperwork, since the bottom is the same no matter where the money goes to.
But: I'll be the first to agree that paying down two loans on one car does not sound like you were compensated unless you think it through! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
The average size of a newly purchased home has more than doubled since boomers were buying their first homes.
I guarantee you that housing is still affordable if your expectations are no greater than those of the boomer generation for housing. I bought my first house in my city on an inflation-adjusted $16/hr. If I had to re-buy my house at its current price and much higher interest rates, I could still do so today easily. My house is slightly larger than the average house boomers were buying 50-60 years ago, but people say my house is "unacceptably small" whenever I try to point people toward affordable housing. (I have access to free overnight Prime shipping, gigabit internet, and it takes a few minutes to walk to the nearest park--so it is not some rural place in the middle of nowhere).
There are a **few** exceptions in hyper-expensive cities in the coasts and 1-2 cities outside of the coasts, but the vast majority of people aren't living in the ~10 cities dominated by 300k salary tech bros.
You can be mad at everything if you wish and farm fake internet karma points, or you could actually do some research and own a house with a reasonable amount of effort and financial discipline. Your choice. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Plenty of car companies make EVs | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Why is car news tech news? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Wow, you're really angry over something this trivial? Are you okay?
Not messing around but I'm genuinely here if you want to talk.
And yes, everything on the planet is visible from orbit, so the headline is technically correct. That shouldn't wind you up this much | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
> SpaceX shareholders
SpaceX isn't publicly traded. There are private shareholders, but Elon owns a controlling share. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
that was more the Cruise car didn't recognize a person was thrown in front of the car and decided to pull over because it saw something weird instead of seeing it's a person and stopping entirely. I don't fault Cruise too much for that. But this does show how dangerous self driving cars can be because of all the corner cases | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
I think they are saying "us" as in "them vs us" not the United States. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
That’s the only reason I opened it! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Aren't the google maps pics taken with cameras mounted on cars on the street? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
tesla isnt the only electric car ? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Because there is no picture. You can't see anything from orbit with the naked eye.
And you can just about read a license plate if you have the right optics and a clear view. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
At this point they need to slow production than anything else. Tesla used to have abnormally higher margins compared to other car manufacturers and they have already cut that to match other manufacturers. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
"See from space" isn't that much of a flex anymore, now we can pick up the models of individual cars on Google Earth. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-maintenance/the-cost-of-car-ownership-a1854979198/
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/who-makes-the-most-reliable-cars-a7824554938/
Sorry to hear about your friend, but the actual facts and data speak otherwise to their experience. They're average reliability but much cheaper than your average gas car on maintenance and repair costs over both 5 and 10 year periods. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Street view is.
That post was talking about the overhead imagery where you can see cars. To be fair, I’m unsure whether it’s satellites or planes | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
I'm not sure this description doesn't apply to adult me. Lol. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Street view is yea but you can see your car from satellite map view | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Wait til you hear literally every car manufacturer and a bunch of new ones make all electric vehicles lol | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Only one of them is the vastly most popular. When my inlaws switched to an EV they hadn't even heard of Rivian until I told them and didn't want to buy from such a small company even though I told them I thought it was the best one. Legacy car companies don't want to make EV at all unless they are afraid of losing market share. Look how reluctant Toyota, the world largest car company has been to make them. Until the day Tesla stops being the pillar of the EV industry in the West we are stuck with that. China could do it maybe, but they just got locked out and they come with a bunch of baggage of their own. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Yeah technically true, it’s the paying down 2 loans thing. Cos he would still have had to make the same repayments as though it was a $70k loan, so he might have had to refinance the remaining loan in order to deal with cashflow, plus it might be harder to get approved for a new loan while having $10k debt and no asset securing it.
Like sure it’s not as though he lost everything, but that residual loan would have been higher due to the market value going down so rapidly. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
I suppose it's possible they were already aware and working on it when Musk jumped it, but I consider that scenario unlikely.
And also look, I'm also that guy. I have a company with a CEO who derails everything because of a Facebook post. I know how this stuff usually plays out. Luckily, none of our software can actually kill anyone. You get away with it 98% of the time. But I don't want my kids in the car the one time they don't get away with it.
I also suppose Elon is less involved with Tesla these days so the culture might ve shifted | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
So, and if we used all 50k cars as a grid storage, what would that mean for a large Metro area? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-maintenance/the-cost-of-car-ownership-a1854979198/
I posted the wrong link. Hybrids may be more reliable but they are also more expensive to repair and maintain. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
I don’t know about you but in my software job 90% of problems are solved and tested in less than a day. Seems pretty slow to take longer than that unless there’s higher priorities.
It’s the dev work and planning that takes forever. Not bug fixing. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
My house can be seen from orbit. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
This has nothing to do with EVs, only with Elon Musk and how drastically over inflated Tesla is as a company. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Only one of them is the vastly most popular. When my inlaws switched to an EV they hadn't even heard of Rivian until I told them and didn't want to buy from such a small company even though I told them I thought it was the best one. Legacy car companies don't want to make EV at all unless they are afraid of losing market share. Look how reluctant Toyota, the world largest car company has been to make them. Until the day Tesla stops being the pillar of the EV industry in the West we are stuck with that. China could do it maybe, but they just got locked out and they come with a bunch of baggage of their own. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
50,000 cars just doesn’t seem like that many. Do you know how many people live in North America alone? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
If you actually cared you’d be spreading the word about the (heavily tariffed to the benefit of Elon and the detriment of society) Chinese EV’s instead of being a passive aggressive asshole fellating Elon’s nut sack | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
But this isn't new. Why have car makers forgotten? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-maintenance/the-cost-of-car-ownership-a1854979198/
That doesn't look "atrocious" to me.
Average reliability, but the repair and maintenance costs are less than practically everything else on both the 5 and 10 year ownership periods. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Jalopnik writes these anti-Tesla stories all the time. It's rage bait. Remember the supposedly rusting Cybertrucks? No pics either. Almost like it was a made up story. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Are they aware tesla has no dealerships, therefore they store their manufactured inventory in different places for distribution... | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
I can feel myself getting fucking dumber by the second from the number of comments here saying “I can see my car on Google Earth, therefore it can be seen from space”…. For Christs sake, are you really that fucking stupid? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
I live near 3 GM plants and there might be hundreds of cars in lots waiting to be shipped but not tens of thousands! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Hit piece, typical circlejerk. You NPCs are annoying and predictable. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
You realize you can purchase an EV or hybrid, be in favor of reducing emissions AND not support Musk all at the same time, right?
Why did you assume that disliking his nonsense equates to some self-destructive position on fossil fuel usage? What was the basis for that leap in logic? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
You can't just rip off a photo you didn't take. There's such a thing as copyright law. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
You realise that things take time to manifest right? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
They are gonna end up right next to the Atari E.T. cartridges... | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Who cares? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Yeah, I had completely intended to replace mine this year. Its five years old now and I have a couple gripes with it that I'm tired of dealing with. But then I saw current prices and laughed and said I'd deal with it for another five at those prices. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
They’re just not worth the money. They’re pretty cool but they lack a lot of quality interiors that similarly priced cars have. They feel kinda cheap. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
The one item whitelist I gave covers 99% of driving, which is why I think it's a strawman to say that unless a vehicle can operate autonomously in every conceivable situation, it's not autonomous. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Pretty sure it was the fossil fuel mafias that did that. In any case when BYD starts selling affordable EV that meet U.S. safety standards in the U.S. that will matter, till then we have Tesla, Rivian and the token efforts of some of the legacy car companies.
Also fuck you and your dickrider bullshit, you probably suck Exxon cock and like it. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
As annoyed as I may be at the reacklowedgement of our species’ dumbshit average, I’m pleased that you’re spending your time typing bullshit into the ether rather than procreating, so 😘 | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Jesus fuck the saying “you can see them from space” is antiquated. You can literally see everything from space, Google Earth has been around a long time now! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
> Also only one of them makes a product that doesn't use gasoline.
Every car company makes EV's now, both EU and american policies force them to. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
This is a dumb way of looking at. Musk is just the face of the company. Many other people are responsible for what the vehicle actually turns out like | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
So they're marginally cheaper to repair and maintain, but are much less reliable i.e. they're going to break more. That article also, because it's harder to quantify, doesn't include days/hours missed due to repairs of your vehicle. People use them for work, and missing days of work to bring your car into a shop and waiting for it to be returned to you has a monetary value as well. Leaving early, or missing your own personal time also adds up.
That article finds that Tesla's are 1000-1500 dollars less over 10 years than other cars that are much much more reliable. 100 dollars a year extra in maintenance isn't worth a few extra hours of my personal time, doubly so if I have to miss hours of work to deal with it.
It's not right-wingers downvoting you, your argument is just incredibly weak and only partially true. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
there are many electric cars from other manufacturers like BYD | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Yup--it is double the standard deductible and each marginal tax bracket gets doubled when filing jointly. But keep in mind that dual income is quite different than single income in this case. When you're filing jointly but only have a single income, the tax savings are significant. The standard deductible is not a tax credit, which means that it "goes to waste" if the person has no income to deduct against and they file as Single. However, when you file jointly you basically get to use their entire standard deductible for your own income in addition to tax brackets being much higher. Those two combined do add up to significant savings in the "single income couple" situation. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
We have like 100 features and testing phase is always brutal. Yeah we can throw out a bugfix but it's more of a YOLO most of the time rather than extensive regression testing. I expect a car with FSD to be more complicated and II expect software that runs a car to be much more rigorous given how dangerous it potentially can be.
We have multiple hot fixes a day. It's fine in our industry...
But a car? I can only think of that software bug that overloaded people with radiation and killed them. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Ford and GM also have millions of units more inventory that they produce | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
bruv im talking about an *apartment* not even a house, im making just shy of $17/hr in the suburbs of Houston, which is a relatively cheap area to live, and I'd have to be working close to 50-60 hrs a week to be making enough to make rent around here and live comfortable
by all means, jerk yourself off plenty, but don't try to act like a shitty housing economy is exclusive to san francisco you self-centered dick | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Where did I say that? I’m over 200k currently. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
There might not be a picture. You can calculate the size something has to be to be seen from space and just know that it is true or not. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Toyota has taken some time to develop an all EV because they initially focused on hydrogen and hybrid electric vehicles. Bring your facts to the fight next time champ.
Tesla WERE a market leader in EV but they're now facing stiff competition and Musk seems to think slashing expenditure NOW is a good idea. I happen to be a business analyst (in the automotive industry no less) and it's *madness* to cut spending given the market Tesla now plays in. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
You're a really unpleasant individual. Headlines like this have always existed. Technically correct is one of the best kinds of correct, as an engineer it pays for me to be technically correct a lot, but obviously I would go into much more detail on the specifics outside of a headline.
I already procreated, my son is awesome, thanks for asking. You can go back to being angry at headlines now, your life must bevery full and rewarding | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Lower the price or at least let us import those $13,000-$18,000 4-door Electric SUV's from China! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
> Environmentalism is a poor fit for his new friends
I think he has gone down a rabbit hole of self sufficiency prepperism. And obviously in your post apocalyptic estate you will need wheels. And without gas stations you need solar + electric cars. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
The US economy is booming but only boomers and corporations benefit. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
As an econ major, the unemployment rate is a fudged statistic, just like inflation | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
That's the way I feel about the BZ4X | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
If true, blame it on Elon pissing off his target demographic of college educated left of center voters. Teslas were made a poisonous brand by Elon’s fascist Twitter rants. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
I wonder who should get credit for that | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
I think they've enjoyed a period of market dominance due to being an EV leader but that is changing rapidly. You think wealthy people will choose a Tesla over say a BMW or Porsche EV? At the bottom end, Chinese EVs have a price advantage and little difference in perceived quality. I'm Australian, Chinese EVs are far more common than Teslas on our roads; I'm currently in Italy and it's the same here. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
"Can be seen from space"
Errrm ... you can now see anything outside 'from space'. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
If they cut 10K off, I'll buy one. Too expensive for a cheap feeling car. The seats are plastic for crying out loud, I'm not paying 50K for that. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
That’s what they’ve trained you to believe. Open your mind. Unfurl your brain. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
You can... not have a car payment with newer cars too lol
I buy 2-5 years old cash every 5 years or so. The technology on the new stuff is so nice and crash rating are so much better. Take two vehicles into the same crash but one is 20 years newer. Guess which one you'd rather be in. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Time for a 50B payout to Schmelon, i guess he earned it. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Unless there is a breakthrough in fuel efficiency it will be the same in the US due to the CAFE standards. Either that or every car will be the size of a land yacht... which is the way we are currently heading unfortunately... | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
36k miles is a baby. I hate to be a 'no true scotsman' when frugality is on the line, but 58,000km? The paint's barely had time to dry. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Then why aren't car prices going down? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Imagine giving traffic to that random website | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
This.
Was a lot easier to justify when a flagship phone was half what they are now. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
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