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He just statet that it's not the first time and in some circles it's standard.
Also to the majority of the people on this earth if a car costs 100k or 100kk it is the same thing because they will never afford either way. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
except Tesla refuses to buy it back and will still fine him if he sells it; this is not a typical first dibs clause, this is crazy | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
If only you read the article | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
What an insane fucking company Tesla is dictating what can and can not be done with their products after a customer purchases them and threatening this ludicrous fine - as though they’re a government agency.
At what point did they stop really giving a shit about optics and public relations? Do they even have a PR team anymore or did Musk get rid of them all? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
LOL thank fuck that is a concern of mine I will literally never have. I'm quite happy with my basic ass Hondas and always have been. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
It's not because it's is like a super car. It's about scarcity. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Ideally some Chad lawyer will take the case pro bono and bitch slap Tesla into the ground. But that's basically just asking for charity, so I won't hold my breath. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
My bad, replace the word "zoomers" with "people" in the previous comment and the point stands. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
How is this a truck? A five seater with a sloped trunk lid and 2 doors. Isn't that a coupe? 4 doors would make it a sedan. Where is the bed or payload space? I can't see this holding as much cargo as an SUV. No way is this a half ton, or even a quarter ton. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
serves you dipshits right for giving elon your money. LLLL | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
I mean its either that or Tesla keeps doing incredibly stupid things that people don't like.
But I mean what are the odds of that? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
right of first refusal. Its the type of contract language Tesla(and many others) use to stop the resale of their vehicles to prevent scalpers. You don't need to go do law school to understand that if tesla refuse to buy it at the prenegotiated rate, then that part of the contract is now fulfilled and he can sell it. if he has their refusal in hand, then he can ignore their legal threats. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
So don't sell it... Sign a rent to own agreement that matures and allows the person to transfer ownership on the day after the Tesla contract restrictions expire. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
So put a "not for sale" sign and add 50k to the MSRP 🤣 | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Hmm.... so we can't buy anything then. At this point it's less a game of roulette in trying to find the good companies... and more a game of sticking your hand int a bag of fire ants and hoping it doesn't hurt too bad this time around. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
It's apparently in *high enough demand* to get people to fork over $100k and sign an agreement stipulating they can't resell it, at least. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
You're assuming that the contract was *only* right of first refusal.
Based on literally all of the evidence of how Tesla is behaving in this case why would you believe that the contract *only* contains a right of first refusal clause?
It seems abundantly clear to me that Tesla has *more* restrictive language in the contract than mere ROFR.
Why you believe *that* language to be invalid is the question you don't seem to have an answer for. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
It's very common in contracts. Check your terms for things like cell phone plans or long term agreements for Cable TV. Hell even your Apartment lease has fine's in it for things like early termination before the end of lease date. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Should have read the *no-givesie-backsies* clause. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
No one cares. Everyone with a brain can tell the intent and people who are too clueless to do so don't need to be included in the conversation. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
A “fine” implies Tesla is a government or regulatory body. Business imposes fees, not fines. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
I mean fuck Tesla, but that's not how contracts work. People always have "good reasons" for breaching contracts, but unless those reasons are spelled out in the contract, or fall into an extremely specific and narrow set of legal carve-outs, any judge (not just an asshole) will rule summarily for Tesla.
From Tesla's point of view the aim isn't to keep him from making a quick buck, it's to keep a secondary market for these monstrosities from existing for a little while so they can sell two of them to two suckers rather than sell one to the first sucker and have him offload it to the second. Shitty of them, but absolutely rock-solid from a contractual standpoint. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
lol customer did not measure specs of vehicle prior to purchase like a rational person would do. Expected to be able to drive home and see if it fits.. then hassle free return if no lmao | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
I just... So much of the market indicates people are struggling - yet certain status items continue to sell gangbusters and way outperform their practical value on the market. So of course, more and more people chase that golden goose.
Really feels like we're dealing with the consequences of high income disparity here. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
It's the fucking Scientology model. The more money you give us, the closer to God you really are. Even the Catholic church has dabbled in similar shit over the years with tithing. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
I wonder if that language was in the contract to prevent what happens in ticket scalping industries… like Tesla didn’t want people buying up (what they presumed) would be valuable item just to flip it for profit. I mean, they’re kind of an abysmal company that has bought into its own ego. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Tbh if you this fucking brain dead to spend years on a waiting list for a cyber truck and you bought one knowing the resale rules, then you deserve the consequences. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
OK. That makes sense. However, this guy should be allowed an exemption. His life underwent radical changes and he can’t park the damn thing. But a company with Elon Musk as the arbiter of fairness is going to be utterly dismissive and contrary. I mean seriously, no human matters except Elon. We must all bow before Emperor Narcissus. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Good?
Like, don't buy a fucking cybertruck, ya goddamn idiot | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Contracts are not set in stone, a judge can and will rule against them if they don't consider the terms appropriate. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
> Why you believe that language to be invalid is the question you don't seem to have an answer for.
because any other clauses preventing resale after tesla refused to buy it back at the negotiated rate would likely not hold up. the guy doesn't want it, he wants to sell it. Tesla doesn't want to buy it back, so hes just supposed to eat the loss and sit on a truck he doesn't want to own? If tesla doesn't want to buy it back, then they should not have a right to interfere with its sale to a second hand market. This would be like Apple saying I can't sell my iphone to someone else because then that person won't buy a new one. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
WTF you can't sell your own car!!?? What the hell is this dystopian shit!! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
The audacity of calling it a fucking fine? Are they the government?
This is extortion, but contract based | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Are you 5 years old? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
It’s because Elon is a controlling red pill piece of shit. Nobody wants this piece of garbage…they never had to worry about scalpers. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Why though? If you buy something it should be yours to do as you please. As far as I'm concerned, you should be able to what you want with your property as long as it isn't harming others. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
It is almost as though Elon has deeply alienated the type of person most likely to have been a tesla customer. It is very much almost like that and for me has personally been a joy to behold. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Are you just speculating or is this something you know? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
Yeah i was just curious what car. I know the exclusivity of high end cars and i actually like that. I don't think money should get you everything and i think a brand can have s say in how their products are used. Like if a weapon maker doesn't want to sell to a dictator or a car company doesn't want to sell to a gaudy influencer. It sucks when others get caught in the net (like your dad i assume). | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
When (as an anti-scalper measure) they make you sign a purchasing contract that says you can't sell the item for a year and has the $50,000 fee explicitly listed as a penalty for violation of this term. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
A fine? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
When he bought it, his parking spot fit the truck. If he had to move to a building with a parking lot, spaces are pretty universally sized. There may be zero buildings in his town with a lot full of oversized parking spaces. The thing is not really parking lot space sized | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
They can’t help it. It’s insane that there cannot be any topic, any conversation that doesn’t gravitate towards that Reddit echo chamber | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
I mean, when I’m wet I’m shiny | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
We have one in my town that is orange. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
No but you are | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Well until Tesla releases a statement, I guess there is only one side to the story. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Well clearly since they think about him every day you should too. It’s wild how almost any subreddit with more than 10K members eventually talks about the guy | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Hey, hey, hey now. You're correct in this conversation till here. You should read about what happened to that woman who sued McDonald's because it was horrific and they deserved to be sued. The "warnings" are actually just because companies want to cover their asses from being sued over grossly negligent hot beverage service should it happen ever again. Justice for McDonald's lady! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Well that’s illegal as hell | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Find a YouTuber who will pay you the price of it to destroy it in a video or something. Go the corporate route and find loopholes to exploit. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
I agree Tesla does stupid things, but apparently the supply of said stupid things falls short of Reddit's demand as exemplified by the apparent need to blatantly make shit up about Tesla. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Well the implication is someone is going to try to flip at double the price. Also ford wanted to maintain their image. They wanted the coolest people to have it. I remember them saying they offered a lot of actors and musicians first go. Also the enthusiast that had a reputation with ford. Silly sure. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
In the times of scalping, in which bots are buying everything and reselling it for more money, this is a great policy imo. It's only for the first year, nobody is saying you can't sell the car. Just that if you buy it, then you have to own it for a year before you can sell it. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Yeah I'm not going to waste my time. If you actually made integrated circuits you wouldn't have been this ignorant about the topic. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Obviously not worth $20k but you’re delusional if you think anyone can make a handbag for $5 | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Or Ben Shapiro's wife. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
> Rent free
We’re both thinking about the same guy who has spent the past decade actively campaigning for president of the United States, right? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Just wait a couple of weeks when election seasons starts going into full swing. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Sell the car. Keep the deed. Pay the insurance. New owner tells cops he’s borrowing it if he gets pulled over. Once the year is up, transfer the deed to the buyer in exchange for the 1 year of insurance paid. Get this all notarized and copied for both parties and recorded on video with drivers licenses and insurance cards captured. Yes it’s a little bit of a pain, but it’s doable. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Anyone who (1) buys one of those stupid, overpriced POSs and (2) signs a contract saying he can’t resell it for a year is truly bottom of our collective IQ barrel. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
>he signed a Tesla Vehicle Order Agreement which states if a Cybertruck owner sells the EV during the first year, they can be fined $50,000 and be banned from buying future Teslas.
What the actual fuck? If a car dealer handed me that I'd propose an anatomically unlikely place to store it before walking out. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Or if you're buying a big-ass vehicle, measure your parking spot first | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
But isn't he just "selling" it back to Tesla. So that isn't scalping...that is just returning with extra steps. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Because I want the vehicle and know that they can't enforce that clause anyhow. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Give the man a break. Not everyone knows how to use and read tape measure. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Or have someone protect the customer from terrible companies maybe? Let stop pretend that people wasn't tricked into this. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Lol…..lol….oh man. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Is the vehicle so good? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
What have I been ignorant about?
I simply said that while conflict with China might be likely it is far from certain | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Tesla Cybertruck: *More polygons than Zork!* | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
'He may have' typically indicates speculation.
Although, I am just speculating. This isn't something I know. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
I'd never buy a Tesla due to its build quality issues (for the money). I'm just answering your hypothetical question with a hypothetical answer.
I have no idea where your going with this or what your point is. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Tesla is not super car. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
It's been a couple of weeks at least IIRC | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
this type of contract is neither novel nor far fetched. it is common in the world of expensive vehicles and limited stock collectibles that mostly only very wealthy people buy. if it wasn't worth it to tesla to have such a contract, they wouldn't. i imagine they will pursue whatever recourse they can, including the fine, and easily win a judgement in their favor.
personally, i think it's a stupid contract, but buyer beware and the customer is ultimately responsible for due diligence. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
It's more than just a conflict with China. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
You misspelled subcar | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Autobots, disrobe! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
You're going to love our new Cybertruck! Or we'll gonna sue you for $50k! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
While Caesar did amass significant wealth during his campaigns in Gaul, it's important to note that he was already affluent before his conquests in the region.
The fact that modern Germany extends west of the Rhine River underscores the significance of Caesar's campaigns in the region as incursions into Germanic territory, even without direct crossings of the river. In western Germany and parts of Belgium, the population was diverse, comprising a mix of Celtic and Germanic tribes.
Caesar crossed the Rhine not once, but twice, in 55 BC near modern-day Neuwied, Germany, and again in 53 BC near Koblenz. While the initial crossing showcased Roman might and engineering expertise, it wasn't followed by a sustained military campaign in Germania. However, according to Caesar's own accounts, the second expedition involved more significant military engagements with the Germanic tribes.
Although Caesar's actions didn't lead to a permanent Roman conquest of Germany as we understand it today, they had devastating consequences for the indigenous population. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Being banned from buying future teslas seems worth the 50 grand fine. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Look at me, I'm a robot with nipples! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Oh no, not even that. He just sat in the driver's seat. The mere arousal of being there was enough to get him off. No touching or anything.
He would have screamed out “ELOOOOOooooo-ohoonnnngh” as he came. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
It's an expensive and impractical and cool it its own weird way, much like a supercar. Supercars are for people with a midlife crisis and no kids. This one has more seats, but otherwise fills the same niche. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
It's because he giggled at his own joke. He can only blame himself | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Not technically a dealership. Tesla "sells directly to the consumer" from their "showrooms" or "galleries." They skirt the rules almost everyone else has to follow, selling cars through a 3rd party dealership. In some states, tesla uses "galleries" and they aren't allowed to talk about price or do test drives. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Those are all directly owned by Tesla, they don’t have any conventional dealerships like every other brand | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Tell that to all the unsold Cybertrucks on sale near me in Los Angeles | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Heyyyyy sexy | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Capitalism. Where companies can sue you for deciding their product sucks | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Is this sarcasm or have you not seen it open before? Not even being snarky I just can't tell lmao
The "trunk" covers a 6ft bed. Rated for over a full ton.
Still an abomination | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
And now I'm repulsed | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
It is very difficult to grade your super-model-mess based on a single text sentence. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
I’d imagine that sentiment applies to the majority of Redditers commenting in this topic! | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
I'm way ahead of you by having no money | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Bro I’m in Seattle and work on the eastside I’ve seen at least a dozen cybertrucks in the wild. I just saw another one in Bellevue today. They’re absolute monstrosities so they’re impossible to miss. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
in this case, if you are buying a cybertruck, youve already been ripped off. anyone buying a secondhand cybertruck would be so willfully stupid, they deserve it. telsa should have just set a kickback fee for reselling their CT, maybe their stock would go up as a result. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
For that - we can actually refer to a 10 yr old TED talk by an actual supermodel Cameron Russel who discusses how supermodels win “the genetic lottery”. None of the photos in this talk are remotely similar to a CT, although there is one of her in a silvery outfit.
Ref: https://www.ted.com/talks/cameron_russell_looks_aren_t_everything_believe_me_i_m_a_model?language=en&subtitle=en | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
What’s this post about? The article wer’re commenting on? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
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