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Any idiot who would buy a vehicle knowing you won’t be able to sell it unless the maker says so is just dumb. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Maybe … This would make the vehicle a “consumable good”, so it would be an “expense”. Alternatively if could be immediately depreciated if it has no more value. I haven’t looked in the 3,500 pages that is the GAP. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
No point just discussion | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Or the buyer could have asked for said info, or - wait a minute - sat in a similar one to find out if they had a chance to fit.
Oh no,- wait - this happened many yrs ago: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a21622751/the-flip-that-flopped-john-cena-and-ford-settle-gt-resale-lawsuit/ | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
His $478K car! These things are awesome looking:
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a21622751/the-flip-that-flopped-john-cena-and-ford-settle-gt-resale-lawsuit/ | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
No one is wanting to buy a Berkin and being happy with a non-leather bag.. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
So he did not know the size of his spot a d bought a product with a 12 month no resale clause and this is news??????
How about you just measure the spot and take the Cyber TRUCK, BEFORE you bought it, how is this news, because YOU didn't do ANY due diligence on the measurements??? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
The angles on the truck may be crisp, but the brains are smooth for everyone involved here. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
And a voice for miming. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Correct because that is 100% the customers fault, NO auto marker makes vehicle according to YOUR parking situations.. please don't allow stupidity to get a leg up.. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
First world problems | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
If money is speech, then isn't this a first amendment issue? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Lots of examples in the replies that should be illegal | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
How can this be legal? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Now you're back to square one and just selling the car lol | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
That's not what a write off is. It isn't cancelling a debt. It's one form a write off can take but it's not the definition. It doesn't even apply in this case unless Cena got a car loan, and Cena wouldn't be the one writing the debt off in that case, the debt holder would be. Wtf are you talking about. Stop regurgitating shit you see on TV and reddit | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Dude you're an idiot. No one should be able to tell you what to do with something you "own" | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
But if someone choose to do so Tesla shouldn't have any say in what someone does with their own personal property. Fuck that bullshit. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
It's not legal anywhere. Contract doesn't mean shit until it's enforced in court. And people are kinda sheep so they think because they signed some crappy unenforceable piece of paper they gave away their rights. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Signing a contract doesn't mean shit. It's literally for people like you who are clueless.
Something like this is not legally enforceable and is a scare tactic for the sheep of the world. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Reddit has this feature where you can click on the headline and it takes you to the article with more info.
It fit in his original garage but he had to move due to a divorce.
Don't worry, my cousin has learning disabilities too, took him awhile to get the hang of reading too | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
These contracts are not enforceable and are literally there to scare sheep into submission. For the ignorant folk that think they signed their rights away. Lol... Know anyone like that by chance? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Bloody hell, that’s not good. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
How does the car owner not look at the measurements of the vehicle before ordering it. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
It’s like owning a time share | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Eh not really I agree with you. But at same signing it doesn't mean shit. It's not enforceable. Only idiots would let some piece of paper scare them to give up their rights. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Tell that to ferrari. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Everyone who thinks a contract like this is enforceable is a moron. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Of course they involve dragons. Of course. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
"Fuck all you peasants. Unless you have money" is how it read to me | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
There was an article here about a week ago, about some rich lawyer about to sell his. His argument “Not legally binding, try me.” | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
You're a fool thinking a contract means you can legally give away your rights and freedoms. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Elon is afraid that somebody might sell the truck to some competitor so they can disassemble it, do the exact opposite and own the market. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Only serious dumbasses think signing an unenforceable contract like that is enough to take away their right to do what they wish with their own property. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Man signs contract before reading it and before measuring his parking spot. News at 10. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
I think in Tesla’s case, though, it’s to keep the price from collapsing.
I wonder how many cybertruck owners are satisfied with their $80,000+ purchases. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
If anyone wants one..
https://www.lexusofthousandoaks.com/used-Thousand+Oaks-2024-Tesla-Cybertruck-AWD-7G2CEHED3RA000513 | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
No one said it's Tesla's problem other then Tesla. Point of the matter is he should be able to sell his personal property all he wants. That has nothing to do with Tesla.
And anyone who thinks a BS contract like that is enforceable is an idiot. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Tesla cars are required to phone home to even work. It's all sorts of BS. Pure junk. Also this crap is not legally enforceable anyway. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Big difference between health insurance and a Tesla Cybertruck. BIG difference.
I can say that without defending the godawful state of American healthcare. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
I don't really think they need promotion of their brand. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Don't bring logic into a discussion involving Musk in r/technology. Tesla drivers also do more km on average, so it's much safer. [https://www.arenaev.com/teslaautopilot\_technology\_achieves\_new\_safety\_heights\_in\_q1\_2024-news-3566.php](https://www.arenaev.com/teslaautopilot_technology_achieves_new_safety_heights_in_q1_2024-news-3566.php) | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
"...he signed a Tesla Vehicle Order Agreement which states if a Cybertruck owner sells the EV during the first year, they can be fined $50,000 and be banned from buying future Teslas."
Also have a hard time believing that a private company can throw down fines on a civilian. That's complete nonsense. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Since the owner agreed to it when ordering his giant toy truck. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
You never heard of a late payment fee? I mean you must have? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Any day now | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
That…doesn’t change the fact that they are way bigger than I thought they were before I actually saw one? I thought they were as small and compact as like a corvette, just built like Lara Croft in 1996. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
It’s not outlawed elsewhere either. What is outlawed is marketing it as a straightforward purchase, which it isn’t. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Any day now | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
How many F350s do you see cruising around where you are in Seattle that aren't fleet vehicles? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Sounds like the buyers problem.
If you signed for the vehicle and agreed to the terms it's no different from any other product.
The dimensions were known before they purchased. It didn't magically get bigger after they brought it home. Maybe do some due diligence before you buy a 80-120k vehicle.
I do not feel bad for this crybaby rich kid. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Talk to the trucks?
I will tell the tens of thousands of people still on the waitlist. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Ferrari does the same thing. You have to be part of their club to officially own one of their cars. Why aren’t people talking about them in the same light if something like this is so upsetting? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Hate can't change reality, dude. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Normally I wouldn't care, except in cases where there's a shortage in supply. At that point all a scalper is doing is making the product more expensive for people. You may not remember but during covid scalper bots basically made the PS5 an extra $150 more expensive for most folks since they swallowed up most of the supply. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
We are forced to pay for companies to finance cars locally to keep it off their books. So if you bought a Tesla outside of a car dealership, (some state requires it) than you already pay to keep Toyota or GM or whoever else's cars off their books and onto someone else.
We are forced to buy healthcare to ensure we are simply less likely to go into extreme medical debt.
We are forced to pay expensive car insurance so those companies can make a profit, (I think they should be forced to cap profit to not bleed the poor and middle class)
We are conditioned to pay server salaries by tipping instead of the business paying it
We are forced to pay crazy rent prices by hyper inflated rent
Do you need more reasons why as Americans we are forced to pay for stupid shit? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Your reading comprehension is a little off isn't it? No where did I mention anything about Tesla. Doesn't matter who does it. It's still a strategy to control sheep.
Ford sueing Cena ended in a settlement with terms to donate money to charity. Just a PR stunt at the end of it all. There's a reason it didn't go into court as it's not enforceable.
Dude are you a blinded Tesla fanboy or some shit; that takes person offense at any criticism towards a company that does not give a rat's ass about you? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
I do remember... I also know that it doesn't matter what your original intent of buying the PS5 was.. if you bought it to play it but realized someone would offer you double for it then there's a good chance you'll sell it for double. You'd be a fool not to unless it was worth $1000 to you to play it. Because essentially at that point even if you paid $500 you're actually out potentially another $500 that would be in your pocket.
That's literally what I did and was able to get a second one to keep essentially ending up with a free PS5. Why wouldn't anyone want to do that?
The sellers were not the ones jacking up the price it was the buyers. Silly when people don't realize that. If someone wasn't willing to pay $500 over MSRP I would have never been able to get that. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
John Cena paid, be as delusional as you want, he couldn't win which is why he settled. Again where's your uproar for Ford...? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Ok. Please enlighten me how getting your stunt coordinator to flip your car fits the definition of a write off. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
If you have to explain why it is then it’s really not. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
No it’s not. It’s to avoid scalpers. Would you say it’s fucked up if ticketmaster didn’t allow customers to resell concert tickets? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
100000000000000000 to 1, never ask me the odds | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
The fact that the someone can just take the car, give a years ownership worth of money, and never give it back.
Or the other way around | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Through legal means? It’s in the contract | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Leno has bought several cars that are invite only/application needed (ford gt, carrera gt, nsx, etc.) his problem with ferrari is specifically the bribing of the dealers and having to buy lower tier cars to be able to buy the car he wants. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
It sounds like they simply have reserved the right to be your first buyback option. If you go around them there can be legal repurcussions | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Oh shit I didn’t know we were in court. Thanks guy. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Defendants can be ordered to pay legal fees and court costs of a plaintiff that prevails in a civil suit.
Many plaintiffs lawyers take cases on a contingency fee too, so you only pay them a portion of your damages if they win, otherwise you owe them nothing. This helps incentivize the lawyer to maximize the damages you recoup, as that increases how much they get paid. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
Yep. People are really stupid, especially the ones who don’t understand humor. They’re still not as dumb as people who but Teslas. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
It was likely a Brabus Merc, their bespoke line of models. They take the twin turbo v8, put forged pistons and rods in it, and crank up the boost. Some models make over 1,000 ft-lbs of torque.
Edit- just checked their website. Some models are more than 1,300ft-lbs. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
When you are notified that your truck is being built, you have the opportunity to get out of the deal. He still went through with it at that point. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
I believe he ordered it before his divorce. That said he’s been living in this apartment for a little while now. When the truck is built, they notify you telling you it’s going to be ready by a certain date. You have the opportunity at that point to get out of the deal as I’m sure you know.
This fine or really a fee is pretty common to fight scalping among high demand vehicles. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
Yes, he did. And before he took possession of the vehicle, he had an opportunity to get out of it.
This is not uncommon with high demand vehicles. These trucks are selling for 50,60, or even 100,000 above asking although that one is very rare and very early on. I don’t think they are selling for the crazy prices above MSRP anymore as supply is catching up | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
Why? It’s pretty common to do this. He also had a couple opportunities to get out of the deal and still went through with it for some reason. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
John Cena is sure learning about it from Ford when he did the exact same thing because he didn’t fit into an exotic car comfortably.
This isn’t a new thing. Y’all just don’t like it because it’s Tesla. And it very much shows a bias. I don’t like them either, but I understand this is a pretty common practice to fight scalping.
Habitat for Humanity does the same exact shit. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
I imagine most people who are actually considering buying one probably know the deal. It’s only people on here who have never heard of this pretty common practice. John Cena got in trouble just like this for selling a Ford GT early because he claimed he didn’t fit in it very well..
Consumers beg for stuff that is anti-scaling and when it’s given to them, they get all pissed off. This guy had many opportunities to get out of the contract and he still took possession of the vehicle. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
They are paying a fee or likely they are making more money than fee
Edit:
Just looked at cars and bids. Yep most of these these are losing, but not by much supply is catching up with demand. A lot of these are selling for about 30 over MSRP
There was one sold in March for 158,000. Dude likely cleared 8 to 10,000 after fee for selling early. Supplies catching up, which is why these guys are losing. A few of them that were up recently ended meaning they didn’t sell. Looks like the last one would’ve lost the person around 30 to 40,000 after fee but still above MSRP. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
Because he agreed to it and not only did he agreed to it he had many opportunities to get out of buying it. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
Does it surprise you that this is a pretty common practice? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
Consumers beg for anti-scaling policies and when someone puts one in place, they complain. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
Those days are over. Supply is catching up. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
> First Business Insider is the source here which is kind of like trusting the national enquirer here. Second he's probably been told he cant sell it for a profit and he doesn't like that.
Did you even read the story? The source is the dude himself. He's on Twitter if you want to see for yourself.
> Raddon said he told the manager directly that the Cybertruck was bigger than he expected and asked for one of four solutions: reverse the transaction, trade in the Cybertruck for a new sedan, sell it back to Tesla, or authorize him to sell it without a profit or mark-up.
> The Tesla dealership manager sent a response on May 23, disagreeing that Raddon's reasoning "warrants an unforeseen circumstance that would trigger Tesla's purchase" of his Cybertruck. He also said Raddon is bound by the one-year prohibition to selling his Cybertruck privately.
Nothing here about "ok to sell for no profit". And if the truck was actually worth more than what he paid I wouldn't expect a dealer to gripe about taking it back and reselling for a profit. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
It’s worse than that. It’s bias. It’s also not understanding a pretty common practice that fights scalping which many here beg for. Also, this guy is stupid. While I sympathize, he had a life changing incident I believe a divorce. He still happened to opportunity to get out of buying the vehicle and went through with it after being in his apartment and knowing the spot. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
Sure but "whatever person they use to sell cars" isn't letting him sell it and won't buy it back and won't let him trade it in. Call him a liar I guess but there are other sources for the contracts Telsa has people sign for pre-orders.
And let's not pretend these contracts are "customer friendly". | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
If you want a cybertruck and don't want to pay an extra $100,000 to a scalper then it is customer friendly. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
It literally isn't? I could buy one from the dude in the story for less than new car price, except Tesla won't let him sell it. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
lol who would want to scalp that piece of shit vehicle? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
> I could buy one from the dude in the story for less than new car price,
No you couldn't. If not for the anti-scalping agreement this dude would be selling it for market price which might be $150k or more. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
And you still miss the point by a mile. Congrats | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
>If the market price is 150k why isn't Tesla buying it back and pocketing the extra money?
Think through that a little more. Why wouldn't they do that? | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
You are rebutting an argument that nobody made | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
Those trucks are by far the ugliest piece of shit looking cars I have ever seen. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-11-06 |
Tesla drivers getting the kind of service tesla drivers deserve. Lol fuck teslas | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
I doubt that's legal, the agreement is just a piece of papar, it's not necessarily legally binding | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-13-06 |
It stops scalping | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-15-06 |
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… and they will demand to be tipped | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-10-06 |
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That is the entire point of the sentence you quoted
jesus christ redditors will be so pedantic in order to try to be right its not even funny.
Anyone who has been following the war should know never to use telegram as a source for the same fucking reason no one should use Twitter as a source. Its flooded with Russian crap. | r/technology | comment | r/technology | 2024-09-06 |
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