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No, but the solution isn't what's happening right now, either. All this is doing is brewing more hatred there, and not only that but it's spread hate and frustration across the world as people have to sit by and watch what's happening.
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There is no end. The Israelis have dug a hole so deep there is no way out, and the Palestinians are defending their families, homes, land. Nobody is going to back down.
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This isn’t true at all. They are the most rapidly growing organization in central Africa at the moment.
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2024-01-06
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Way to harpoon the peace deal Biden just announced. I'm sure he'll appreciate that.
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>From February 15 to March 15, the IPC classified 677,000 people in IPC 5, and from March 16 to July 15, 2024, the IPC projects 1,107,000 people, a full half of the Gazan population, to be in IPC 5 (Catastrophe/Famine).
And where exactly are the casualties? Normally, a famine includes large numbers of people starving to death. So, where?
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Yep like I said all the ngos are wrong and you’re right. I refuted your nitpicking of my argument and all that is left is you demanding pictures of dead bodies, something I don’t want more burned into my brain. Feel free to carry on with your beliefs of no famine and I will keep my well sourced ones
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Oh it will end. There is technically a finite number of Palestinians he can ethnically cleanse. Genocides tend to have an end date.
If no woman man or child is left alive he will be very happy and the west will be there applauding.
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2024-01-06
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My statement was factual. Palestine/Palestinians and Israel have been in diplomatic relations for 76 years.
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2024-01-06
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Not at your own population’s cost though.
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2024-01-06
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So you're saying the conditions in Gaza, even before October 7th, were harmful enough to create the insurgents that committed October 7th? And we cannot return to status quo without ensuring more violence?
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Months? Come on.
That conflict isn't as old as oct 7. Its pushing up on 80 years.....
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>You mean the actual natives of the land who were forced out by Roman's
Nope. That's irrelevant. Do you support ethnically cleansing Hungarian people who's ancestors only moved there in 895? How about ethnically cleansing nearly all slavic people who were originally confined to what is approximately modern day Poland? Nobody in their right mind gives a shit about where ethnic groups lived 3,000 years ago.
>and Muslims
There was really no expelling of Jewish people from Palestine like ever in history. Sure, discrimination in dhimmi status existed (much lesser than what was going on in Europe, but it was still discriminatory) but no actual examples of Jewish people forced to leave.
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2024-01-06
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And now, less convictions…
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> Netanyahu’s only incentive is to keep the war going until Trump is elected.
Eagerly awaiting the joint Trump-Netanyahu press conference where they announce they're super smart comprehensive peace deal that involves millions of Palestinians being transferred far far away and Trump org developing the Gaza strip for Israelis. /s
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Conditions in Gaza before October were bad thanks to HAMAS and Palestinians themselves.
They were supplied medications, water, electricity , etc by Israel. Israel even built some kind of wall in order to be safe From Palestinians and except responses on rocket strikes didn't interfered with Gaza Palestinians.
It even wanted in 20th century give Gaza to Egypt. Egypt unfortunately refused.
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2024-01-06
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This is a misleading statement. Old Hamas was a charity running mosques before turning into a terrorist political party.
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2024-01-06
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Yes, there is a relationship there!
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2024-01-06
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>Nope. That's irrelevant
Cool, so Israelis just have to wait a while and Palestinians will no longer be "native" right? Hey, has America passed the threshold where whites are now the natives yet? Native Americans should have no land claims? Or do we have to wait a bit longer?
>There was really no expelling of Jewish people from Palestine like ever in history.
Lmfao mf never heard of the Mamluks
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2024-01-06
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The only statesmen the Catholics in Northern Ireland had were terrorists who refused to accept Northern Ireland's existence...
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2024-01-06
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So far...
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2024-02-06
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Turkeys occupation of Northern Cyprus?
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2024-02-06
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US established a democratic government in Japan and helped reconstruct. Israel blockaded Gaza has constantly opposed a Palaistinian state and has the other Palaistinians under an apartheid regime. Of course they are gonna hate Israel you reap what you sow.
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2024-02-06
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Bookmarking this post for the next time Israel decides to bomb the shit out of Gaza and nab some more land.
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Israel also helped reconstruct by leaving behind infrastructure for improving Gazan lives. The Hamas terrorist organization immediately began to tear down Israel’s aid and used it to construct rockets to launch at Israeli civilians.
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2024-02-06
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If Hamas surrenders they are effectively destroyed, it counts.
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2024-02-06
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That happened after the surrender. You're talking about days after stuff while still in the first half of the war with troops still sending bombs your way.
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2024-02-06
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How about antisemitism in Germany over the past 70 years?
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2024-02-06
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The median age of a Palestinian is currently 19, compared to 29 in Israel. Between 1955 and 2005, it never went above 15. The median age wasn't above 18 until 2015. This whole "oh wow their population has been increasing a lot over the last few years *please don't look any earlier than that*" shtick is peddled exclusively by people who think we aren't killing enough of them like we used to. Otherwise, why would you share that very specific factoid without any further context? Be better.
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2024-02-06
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A movie? Are you serious? You are aware that other countries are all involved in the deal making, yes? Biden cannot unilaterally announce the terms of a deal those signing it are not aware of, it does not work that way, no matter what fantasy you dream up.
A smidgen of thought would show why what you are saying is full of shit. Netanyahu has shown he is not afraid of gain saying Biden, why would this be any different.
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2024-02-06
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It’s not about Netanyahu. Israel’s goal is to ethnically cleanse Gaza of Palestinians. Anything they’ve said about peace or Hamas or hostages is a lie. Their goal is to ethnically cleanse Gaza and ultimately the West Bank of Palestinians, obviously. It’s only confusing if you assumed that couldn’t possibly be true.
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2024-02-06
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Israel has a parliamentary system. So the prime minister is the only word that matters, until he loses his majority. For Biden to present the opinion of other government ministers, knowingly, would make as much sense as Zelenskyy quoting AOC's opinion on the war in Ukraine as US government policy.
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No, it's just literally that I am talking about Topic A and you are insisting on talking about Topic B which is not actually relevant to the discussion that is going on in this particular subthread. You are talking about why Netanyahu is attacking Gaza and we are talking about the political motivations *outside of that* for why Netanyahu is fucking with Biden. That's all.
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Other countries involved in the deal making? Do you mean all the Arab countries and Europe advocating on behalf of Hamas? They have no incentive to speak up.
No. I'm not imagining things. Watch the news over the next week, and you'll see everyone in Israel contesting the validity of this offer.
Joe Biden has clear motivation to end this war as soon as possible regardless of what it does to Israel. Declaring that he ended the conflict will win him votes. Worse case scenario, Israel calls his bluff and it becomes a he said/she said scenario. No skin off his back.
Israel has no incentive to end this war until Hamas is destroyed. Even the opposition are against these terms. Why would they make such an offer and contradict it immediately thereafter? They have nothing to gain by doing so.
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2024-02-06
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How does Gerrymandering apply in the Presidential race? EC votes are determined by state, and those were set centuries ago now, not finely tuned according to the latest demographic census.
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2024-02-06
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Nah, man, the war on drugs is over.
Drugs won.
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2024-02-06
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Carry on what? With current pace it would take several decades to displace/kill everyone in Gaza. Thats just not happening. There will be a different end game. But nobody knows how will it look yet.
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2024-02-06
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Yes, obviously. Why is that hard to believe?
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2024-02-06
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I don't read that as saying that it's "right" that China inferes with other countries, just that they won't be "soft" on foreign efforts to interfere in Chinese policies.
For example, I think both Biden and Trump would say they won't be be "soft" if asked about Chinese efforts to interfer with US politics.
It's just diplomatic postursing, nothing more.
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2024-01-06
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We need to get tougher on china and russias interference.
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>The US invaded two countries and killed hundreds of thousand of civilians. But you think 'China is arguably the most flagrant' about foreign interference?
Okay? China is #2 or #3 then? Does that make you feel better?
>Have you thought about why the countries they're taken from don't care? Because the people they're 'kidnapping' are corrupt. China is cleaning up their own mess. Which is why none of these 'kidnappings' result in diplomatic rows.
Lol. 你显然是中共的粉丝。
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I can’t wait for class action lawsuit payout so then I can add some administrative fees
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2024-01-06
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Oh thank goodness I've only bought tickets from the scalpers that benefit from ticketmasters policies.
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2024-02-06
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Wasn’t the hack on Snowflake’s side?
If EU fines them for this then every cloud provider if they have a hack will result in potentially all their customers getting fined at the same time.
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2024-02-06
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HACK THE PLANET!/s
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2024-02-06
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Most of those would not have accounts at Microsoft, Twitter AND Reddit.
Sorry, but it's 2024 and not 2004 -- most (not all, of course) working-age people in the developed world, and with a large online precence, no longer have that excuse.
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Putin recently called for one ironically. The new fronts they are opening are merely diversions. They don’t have near enough resources to take a city like Kharkiv or Sumy. Russia is bleeding men and money. Putin’s hoping for a political change in the West to undermine Ukraine.
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That’s rapidly changing. US trade with China fell 20% in 2023 to less than $500 billion.
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What makes you think Russia is struggling so badly? They are advancing all along the frontline more or less. If they can afford to sustain such tempo Ukraine will lose even with aid.
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2024-01-06
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If the pause happens, then ukraine can definitely say bye bye to the lost lands.
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2024-01-06
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If the Russians are getting slaughtered like you say, why haven’t Ukraine driven them out
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2024-01-06
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This war will go on for 20 years or until all of the military aged men become casualties. The common people are always the losers in war.
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Putin remains dignified. Zelensky is a cross dresser, I don’t know how the Ukrainians haven’t conducted a military coup yet.
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If Ukraine is so much stronger than Russia, as your post suggests, they surely wouldn’t need outside help.
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Is refusing to arrest Putin excusing Russia? Their argument was that they didn't want to start another war, which they would have.
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They LITERALLY hosted Hamas post Oct 7th. Talk about projection.
https://apnews.com/article/hamas-mandela-south-africa-b2c0a01aea33469e05e9910d535a48c7
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I am definitely including 2SS in the solution. The Bush era Road Map To Peace included a number of reservations and concessions Israel was willing to make. Unfortunately Netanyahu now is even more belligerent than Sharon was then. Israel needs to sort its own government before there’ll be progress, much Hamas needs to be neutralized and the Palestinian Authority needs to minimize corruption.
It’s going to be at least a generation of transition before a constructive and peaceful Arab Palestinian state could be fully left alone. There’s a real probability it could end up like Lebanon.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/who-governs-palestinians
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Because they are ruled by a terrorist group and get their homes and infrastructure bombed by who said group says are the bad guys and the root of all their problems
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Getting bombed and seeing your loved ones suffer (no matter if you believe only Hamas is responsible, a lot or civilian Palestinians will only focus on who is dropping the actual bombs) increases a chance for radicalization among the bombed population.
Now you can debate that it's all strictly Hamas fault, but fact of the matter is situations like the current one are bound to increase the % of extremists in Palestine, just as Oct 7 terrorist attack surely increased the amount of extremists among Israeli population.
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There are about 30 or so histages who are known to be dead. There are two from whom we have recent signs of life. Other than that, no one really knows how many are alive.
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No people deserves extermination, but certain ideologies do. Palestinians have never stopped calling for and attempting that very solution for Israeli Jews. Too bad kids are indoctrinated in anti-semitic violence from an early age.
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"my glazing for Israel didn't go over well so now I'll just say fuck them brown people, that will get em"
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I did not ask what you hope would happen. I asked what you think is going to happen, based on the past and the present. I genuinely want to know.
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> Bibi has intentionally kept Hamas in power in the past for his own political expediency.
exactly.
two sources on this but don't expect anyone to read much less discuss in good faith.
1. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html
2. https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
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"Many countries told Israel to stop being a party to this two-party conflict while the other party remains, but it's obviously Israel who is the bad guy for staying in the two-party conflict that the other party refuses to end."
That's not how wars work, guy.
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Hamas fired 8 rockets at Tel Aviv *from Rafah* first. That was a few hours before Israel *retaliated*
Like. Lol. Do you really not understand the basics here
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2024-02-06
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You're not wrong... but the fact remains, the majority of Palestinians are in favour of perpetuating the conflict. The PLO was a terror organization that basically fought against everyone around them (not just Israel), they got reformed into the Palestinian Authority as part of the Oslo Accords. The election that resulted in Hamas winning a majority of seats, and then violently taking over Gaza were similarly the result of accords meant to give Palestinians freedom and self-determination.
At some point in time, either the Palestinians will have to choose peace of their own free will, or the rest of the world is gonna have to come to grips with the fact that what a significant chunk of Palestinians want for themselves is eternal Jihad against Israel.
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Oh please. Innocent people don't join organizations which hijacked airplanes, plant bombs and use armed violence to achieve their goals. Their entire Khalistani movement which was suppressed in India through Blue star operation was a terrorist activity.
It's like Taliban or Al-Qaeda opening a, "peaceful" branch in some foreign country.
Punjab is a major food producing state in India and it's not by coincidence. Wars were fought so that it got water for irrigation, entire Green revolution framework was brought to work to increase their food production.
These terrorist want that state to become a separate country, do you understand the kind of security hazard that is for India? In the past 75 years we have fought 4 major wars, we don't have the luxury of peaceful neighbors. In peaceful times, Indian soldiers die, on our border with Pakistan and China because of skirmishes.
Can you imagine how much worse it would get if we lose that state. It's like one of your states ceded control to Taliban.
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No let’s rather vote for the man that claim one section of the Indian population wants to steal the others gold. That’s definitely a good thing.
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Modi is not becoming prime minister for the 3rd time. It’s god himself, that’s becoming prime minister for the 3rd time. Jai Shree Ram!
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2024-01-06
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On 4th June, BJP will become the largest party in South India in terms of Lok Sabha presence.
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2024-01-06
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Did I hit a nerve, do keep it civil. Whataboutism really is not constructive, but just for this once. Do look at the cases you refer like [Ng extradition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reference_Re_Ng_Extradition):
>Along with the Kindler case, the ruling in Re Ng Extradition was essentially overturned in 2001 with United States v. Burns. In Burns, the Supreme Court found extraditing people to countries in which they might face the death penalty breached fundamental justice under the Charter.
You really do need to do some more research with your whataboutisms as simple google search provides the fact like [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v_Burns):
>United States v Burns \[2001\] 1 S.C.R. 283, 2001 SCC 7, was a decision by the Supreme Court of Canada that found that extradition of individuals to countries in which they may face the death penalty is a breach of fundamental justice under section 7 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The decision reached that conclusion by a discussion of evidence regarding the arbitrary nature of execution although the Court did not go so far as to say that execution was also unconstitutional under section 12 of the Charter, which forbids cruel and unusual punishments.
>The case essentially overruled Kindler v Canada (Minister of Justice) (1991) and Reference Re Ng Extradition (1991).\[2\] In Burns, the Supreme Court justices claimed to be considering different kinds of evidence.
In any case all of this is moot and not relevant to the fact that the person murdered was innocent Canadian citizen living in Canada.
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2024-01-06
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11th.
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Sorry corrected it to term
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No-one is claiming any country is perfect. I am claiming the person was innocent which is a fact as he was not convicted of anything. No amount of spinning will change that fact.
You can drop the whataboutisms I will not participate in that, call the precedent if you want does not change the fact they are not relevant nor justification for anything.
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When have they ever?
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2024-01-06
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It's too soon to tell.
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2024-01-06
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BJP has lost a handful of assembly elections because likes of Kejriwal, Mamta, Stalin know how to push back at the state level. But there's no opposition unity or gameplan to push back on BJP at the state level.
The oppposition pretty much gave up on this election. Only after a couple of phases they realized they could still fight. When INDIA bloc was formed, they had amazing momentum, if they had continued the same for one year, we might have been looking at the different result, instead they spend the year fighting among themselves.
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Clearly it's the fault of the Muslims for producing too much CO2 whilst breathing.
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> Modi is not as powerful as people make him to be.
The opposition doesn't strongly believe this enough. Either that, or they are happy enough to wait their turn when Modi eventually leaves due to his age or people lose interest in BJP because of anti-incumbency.
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Lol. Ok.
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That awkward moment when you fail to see the sarcasm.
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And even if it’s true then they killed someone who is a terrorist, a threat to India. All secret agencies from all over the world do that. Would you call democratic party a terrorist party because they killed Osama bin laden in Pakistan?
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I don't understand the "love" that some Westerns have for navalny: he didn't deserve to die, but he was imperialistic, nationalist, xenophobic and racist. Being anti putin, doesn't mean being pro West at all.
I think that most people in the West watched a documentary about navalny and believe to know everything about him.
His wife "*opposition*": the opposition in russia is simply passed on just like that? What a clown country.
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Man I'm with you on all of that. People are startling unaware of what his actual beliefs were. His LiveJournal blog and YouTube channel are still out there and there's some crazy shit. It's all still out there to read and watch. He called Georgians rats during the 2008 war and talked about blasting them to hell. He called Chechens cockroaches and said they need to be exterminated. Then the Crimea thing.
The only thing people in the West know about him is that he's not Putin. And they see a picture of him in prison making a cute little heart with his hands so they think he's a heckin wholesome progressive Chungus or something.
Biden tried to seat Zelensky's wife and Navalny's wife together at the State of the Union address. Both of those women were probably like WTF are you talking about??
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Indonesia has conflict with the native population in Papua-New Guinea. So not conflict free.
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So, the same guy who got micked of the army for violating human rights, sympathized with Hamas, and has openly called Netanyahu a terrorist. Thinks anyone would trust him with being responsible for peacekeeping forces?
After finding out how UN workers turned a blind eye to terrorism and was even involved with it, iarael will never trust any foreign country to be the middle-man. Never.
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