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Touché. Anyway, there’s no evidence. bye bye.
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2024-02-06
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2024-01-06
Of course Orban's corrupt. Every fascist dictator is corrupt.
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2024-01-06
No wonder Republicans like Orban and co.
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2024-01-06
The rest of the EU needs to give political and financial backing to anyone willing to oppose Orban.
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2024-01-06
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2024-01-06
And it didn't. It also didn't end when Germany capitulated. You are doing a terrible job of making your point. Your question is, would Germany have been out of the war without an invasion? Yes. So why did they invade? Because they wanted to dismantle Germany as a country, or did you miss the class in history that covers the Cold War? Did the Russian war in Afghanistan end with a Russian defeat? Yes. Was Russia invaded? No. Explain that.
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2024-01-06
The US loves the policy "speak softly and carry a big stick". The threat of the US is more than enough most of the time. As for the other comment, it's silly the US would want the conflict prolonged as it doesn't help much economically for its allies. IMO they're waiting for Russia to crack - because it very likely will crack before anything else.
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2024-01-06
It's not BS, you are just not thinking strategically, because it doesn't make sense on paper. Putin sees NATO as a huge bluff and wants to call it out. He wants to dismantle NATO by carefully pushing until it gives. It might start with occasionally trespassing in their air space, an occasional shot across the border or small groups marching into empty territory because "they got lost". And he will try to slowly escalate as a Europe that's totally unprepared is frozen in indecision. I am not saying this is realistic or likely, but NATO is showing cracks already, particularly when it comes to the US's commitment. There is a reason why European leaders are increasingly saying we can't depend on the US.
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2024-01-06
I know very little about economy but from some things Ive read the economic impact will be big in terms of how long it will linger but it looks like no major collapse will come within a couple years. Russia is not in a full war-time economy yet, they can keep making sacrifices a bit longer
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2024-01-06
Precisely. I get it, it was necessary in the beginning to counter the ever present omnipotent Russia meme, but after that they should have gone with gentle realism. Continuing with this blatant propaganda hurts both us and Ukraine. Western citizens constantly hear how Ukraine is effortlessly beating Russia, so they quickly arrive at the most fitting conclusion: _then why are we constantly giving them money and ammunition? Stop doing it._ It hurts the West, because if such a poor and corrupt country has no issue holding Russia back, then we (classic Western hubris) would kick their ass with zero effort. So there is no need to increase military spending, to restore military capability and to reintroduce the National Military Service. I see this all the time on Reddit: _Invading NATO? RuSsIa CaN'T eVeN dEfeAt uKraIne hehe_ - said by a dude living in some speedbump country like Belgium, which would fall to the Russians within 12 hours. What most arrogant Westerners weren't told is that Ukraine has had the largest and best-trained land army in Europe, more anti-air defences and munitions than the entire Europe combined, patriotic and courageous populace, massive satellite, electronic, and human intelligence from US/NATO, gigantic military support from Poland, the UK and the US from the very first day. Yet they managed to thwart Russian advances in early 2022 by the skin of their teeth and to this day they still barely hold on.
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2024-01-06
How much support would czechoslovkia have been worth to prevent ww2? Because russia isnt stopping at ukraine. It is lead by a faschist government who wont stop until stopped. It is bizzare how people can think that the guy who genuenly believes that Poland started ww2 by not giving up part of their land is someone you can treat with.
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2024-01-06
You act as if it wouldnt be the same if roles were switched.
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2024-02-06
Ok, lemme guess, your kids speak Russian?
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2024-02-06
Wonderful, given the lack of a response, and what I assume will be a red herring in your next reply, we can assume the discussion over.
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2024-02-06
lmao there wasnt a discussion. you went off on multiple tangents, told me i was a bum, and accused me of following russian propaganda. youre a clown
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2024-02-06
I see on top of being a bum, reading comprehension isn't your strong suite. Given your deficits, we can stop there. We can save you the time in retyping your “thoughts” and I don't have to waste time reading the same propaganda lines I can just hear from a clip of RT. At least they're more entertaining.
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2024-02-06
Tricky thing is deciding who pays for it.
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2024-02-06
Why do you think Europe is more urgent than the US? Some countries in Europe, especially those close to Russia? Sure. The whole of Europe? Meh.
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2024-02-06
Pro-Ukraine crowd was talking about NATO intervention from the very beginning, pleading to "close the sky" and such. This has nothing to do with disinformation. Your comment is just some more good old nuclear fearmongering, you are posting actual disinformation and it's a shame it gets upvoted.
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2024-02-06
If it was the truth USA wouldn't put muzzle on Ukrainian attacks on Russia territory
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2024-02-06
Right? Apple is worth 72 times this. Using a simple mind, we could take control of Apple. “Redistribute” it for cash and cover Ukraine for the next half century easily? Thats insane. Too bad these valuations are just make believe.
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2024-03-06
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2024-01-06
Get an EV, fight fascism.
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2024-01-06
This is really interesting and I hope you share more knowledge. Maritime commercial shipping literally keeps the world running and I know nothing about it other then the Jones act, long shormen being shrewd negotiators, and most companies choosing to flag for other countries for tax reasons. Is flagging with a big country important for any other reason then pirate protection?
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No chance Hamas will accept it because it requires the immediate release of most of the hostages.
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2024-01-06
If we allow the victim to use self-defense then the bully might lose, is that really a risk we're wiling to take?
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2024-01-06
If Lukashenko allows Russia to start stationing artillery, soldiers, other weaponry on the Belarus/Ukraine border again then he's already in it. Which is what this foreign minister is saying. He's warning that Ukraine should have the right to strike Belarus if Russia starts using Belarus to launch attacks on Ukraine again. Ukraine abstaining from striking Russian targets barraging Ukraine from Belarus for the first half of the war was pretty costly. It would mean that Ukrainian soldiers stationed there can be picked off with Ukraine not being able to do anything about it.
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2024-01-06
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Volunteer only, right? Wonder how many men they'd get.
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2024-01-06
IIRC the defense minister didn't check with the rest of the government so there's not going to be rounding up of Ukrainians in Poland lol.
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2024-01-06
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2024-01-06
Trudeau might threaten to do a Chinese cosplay photoshoot.
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Russia, Turkey... papua new guinea
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2024-01-06
Good. The ANC are corrupt mother fuckers and they fucked up the country for 30 years. Bunch of thieving cunts. This is change, and it’s a good change, whether the small brains in the audience realize it or not.
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2024-01-06
"Dont look at us, look at Israel. LOOK AT ISRAEL" ANC offical
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2024-01-06
Could ma a model for the GOP
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2024-01-06
They wouldn’t even need the IFP. I’d doubt that coalition; it’s much easier for the DA to continue to be the opposition party than to try and fix the broken mess that is South Africa with the party that embodies corruption.
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2024-01-06
What are you talking about? We have state capture and systemic corruption which I guess you could describe as “gangs” but it’s very much your white collar non violent crime, and then we have dispirit lowly street gangs that have almost no power at all?
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2024-01-06
Western Cape province.
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Bring back the iron curtain.
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2024-01-06
Why would the U.S. need to draft troops for this when Poland will already have enough boots on the ground?
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2024-01-06
Ha would much rather it be the US than the Chinese or Russians.
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2024-01-06
NATO does not shoot down Russian airplanes violating its airspace. That's a mistake NATO will regret sooner rather than later.
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2024-01-06
I don't think Putin is dumb enough to attack a NATO country. I don't think it's his ambition either(I could be wrong but I doubt it). I have a feeling that these articles are sponsored by the Industrial military complex for even better sales of their weapons. They are already reeling in crazy money due to ongoing wars and would like most of the world be unstable for their own profits.
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2024-01-06
Yes but they never attack the same place twice. They're testing the fences for weaknesses systematically. They remember....
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2024-01-06
He should check our Southern Border.
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2024-01-06
> NATO needs to be disbanded like it was supposed to be after ww2. The ignorance lmfao
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2024-01-06
Yeah, why would he think the guy that told Russia to attack our allies wouldn't defend them when Russia attacked them? Don't believe what Trump says, believe what Simple\_Event thinks he meant. edit /s
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2024-01-06
The US already has over 2 million active military personnel, so we sure as hell don't need to draft anyone to get into the millions. We're already there. To reach 10 million troops? Probably, but please go ahead and point to anything that even possibly suggests in any concrete way that the US would need 10 million troops simply because Article 5 was activated.
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2024-01-06
Yeah. Good luck with that,  https://www.ft.com/content/5953405f-d91a-4598-8b6b-6345452ca328 To quote: Europe has only a fraction of the air defence capabilities needed to protect its eastern flank, according to Nato’s own internal calculations, laying bare the scale of the continent’s vulnerabilities.
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2024-01-06
Yeah that’s why I think any actual “testing” Russia is doing is more saber rattling just like the nuclear threats. Invading Ukraine was the real test, and 2 years later Putin has what? 20% of Ukraine to show for it? Not a chance he tries shit involving nato/USA, he can’t even cope with our outdated equipment alone, much less our actual combined fighting force.
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2024-01-06
Pretty small chance of a draft imo. We already have over a million people enlisted, and that number would go up if American people support the war. I could be wrong, but meh.
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2024-01-06
It’s exactly shit like this that we shouldn’t abide though. If we’re not gonna take an attack on NATO soil as a declaration of war. We should at least go eye for an eye. Fuck with our shit we’ll fuck with yours. 
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2024-01-06
what do you classify an "incursion" ? I guess the only thing is full on troops moving into the capital raising their own flag, seemingly everything else will be explained away and nato will do nothing like they have until now We've had assassinations, missiles, planes etc doing whatever they want, going wherever they want, and 0 public repercussions. i can just picture 50k troops marching through poland and nato being all like, "its totally fine, they are just heading to Ukraine, leave them alone".
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2024-01-06
This is why NATO was formed, so there wouldn't be months of dicking around.
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2024-01-06
The Russian bombers that fly close to NATO airspace haven’t been utilized in this war
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2024-01-06
They haven’t stopped, but the news doesn’t cover it much anymore
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2024-01-06
After Trump asked Russia to attack our allies? After he has said over and over he wants to pull out of NATO? Congress passed a bill to keep him from being able to pull us out. You think the same party that cut off aid to Ukraine for six months because Orange Jesus said to is going to rush up to stop the war they made probable? Republicans are no longer a serious party. They don't want to govern, they want to inspect high schoolers crotches and burn books.
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2024-01-06
Not just respond, respond like a rabid dog. Russia should be afraid of us using a tactical nuke first, just like French nuclear doctrine allows.
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2024-01-06
Common Turkish W
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2024-01-06
If war broke out between the uk and russia do you think trump would be non our side or russias. From what I've read it seems he wouldn't go against putin for anything but I would like to know what the thinking is on the other side of the fence, I don't read much of the same types of media trump supporters do so I'm genuinely asking. You seem to think trump wouldn't turn his back on a country like uk who have had americas back in the last century, I hope that's the case, I mist admit I don't like him copying up to russia.
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2024-01-06
Yeah... US military doctrine has evolved a lot since WW2. The US military is designed around having the ability to project as much force as possible with as little disruption to the civilian front as possible. That means a doctrine of "waste dollars, not lives." A draft or too many dead soldiers results in pressure on the home front that has historically proven to be far more likely to end a campaign than military failure. Secondly, a direct NATO confrontation with Russia in Europe does not play out like what we're seeing in Ukraine with an ugly stale mate slug fest where manpower and depleting artillery shells slowly push the battle lines. That only happens in the modern era when neither side can claim air superiority or when you have one conventional army fighting guerilla. This is far more likely to play out like when Iraq invaded Kuwait, where there is an immediate air war (which a depleted Russia stands little chance in considering the combined air and missile power of NATO) and then a aerial mop up campaign destroying retreating infantry and armor who stand no chance in defending themselves on the ground. The US could activate and deploy tens of thousands, maybe 100k ground forces to the theater for support and security from its all-volunteer ranks to add to say Polish troops, but their role would be minimal at best. Now at some point in the above, there would have to be very intense diplomatic efforts in the early days/weeks to call this whole thing an unfortunate dust up, let's all go home and keep this from escalating past conventional to nuclear. And if that failed, we're all dead anyway, and still no need for a draft.
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2024-01-06
Yes, he's going to become a cock-starch, I mean penis-potato, I mean dictator. And what evidence do you have of this? I can't seem to find any, though I searched. Only thing I found is someone asking if he's going to be one and he said just on Day one. I can't find anything other than that and Reddit conspiracies.
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2024-01-06
US can fight 2 wars but not 3, China is also waiting on the perfect timing to invade Taiwan.
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2024-01-06
Yeah we'll see about that. Azerbaijan, and so automatically by extension Turkey (at the very least they are 100% aware of it), are still dealing with Russia now, helping them get around sanctions. We'll only know if the conflict gets to a point that forces their hand, where they actually stand.
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2024-01-06
And other countries should follow their example
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2024-01-06
I mean, they may have proven that they’re worthless in terms of boots-on-the-ground warfare, but they’ve also shown themselves as super sneaky bitches when it comes to information/propaganda warfare. They’ve managed to steal whole political parties not just in the U.S., but throughout Europe and the rest of the world. The west really needs to start answering these things with some scary, intelligent, speedy responses.
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2024-01-06
The wildcard is their nuclear arsenal though. Putin is making MAD bets the world can't cash
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2024-01-06
Russia could make a choice between allowing itself to be conquered, and surviving, or using nukes, and seeing its nation and people turned into glass and shadow stains on the pavement.  Either way, they lose.
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2024-01-06
We’re Certainly a lot more decadent… certainly a lot more fractured as a society (we have marches in London advocating for Houthi attacks on our own Shipping ) Russias corrupt , but it’s focused internally. I read somewhere some time back that the soviets felt western leaders and politicians are embarrassingly cheap to buy off and influence , I.e. it takes tens of thousands rather than tens of millions.
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I don't think Anders Puck Nielsen, one of the most respected voices and commentators of the war, has forgotten that Finland has a military. Putin's strategy has already been to muddy the waters. Just look at the buoys in Estonia, GPS jamming commercial flights in the Baltic states. We barely even raise an eyebrow when it happens now, because he's trying to normalize things that three years ago would have caused an international scandal. I wouldn't just brush off the idea of a handful of Russian soldiers running across into Lappland, planting a Russian flag, and retreating back to Russia when the Finnish cavalry approaches. As you say, Finland won't do anything further, and voila, Putin has technically invaded a NATO country without any consequence. Do that a few more times and that's normalized too. Finland either has to man the entire border with Russia, or run around responding to brief crossings. There is still plenty of tools in Putin's box to play against Europe that won't be enough to call down a direct NATO attack against Europe.
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2024-01-06
Someone is using their brain. Novemis going to be the most fucked up shitshow I've ever seen
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2024-01-06
They'll unleash the tactical assault geese, that are also trained in peculiar torture methods, like slowly chewing off a man's balls while he sits tied to a chair in a basement somewhere. 
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2024-01-06
this method work for hilter for a little while, hope this time we stop him.
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2024-01-06
until things escalate rapidly .
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2024-01-06
That one leader enjoys widespread support amongst Hungarians despite the decline of their democracy. There is not an appetite to remove Orban amongst the majority of Hungarians. The Hungarians actively choose to keep Orban as their leader and unfortunately that means he has control over Hungary's defense and their potential removal from NATO. We can't keep a treaty partner who is actively harming the effectiveness of the treaty just because it *feels* nice.
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2024-01-06
The U.S. has already resolutely said that it would defend "every inch of NATO territory with unwavering and extreme force." That's really all we need. 
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2024-01-06
I wouldn't be sure about Taiwan. Most polls indicate majority wouldn't fight without the US, and the independence party won only ~40% of the votes recently. Also, some part of Taiwan, such as Jinmen Islands, are so close to China it is nearly impossible to defend. Yes, we see in Ukraine drones inflicted heavy damage on the much larger Russian Navy and many cite that as an "I-win" button for Taiwan against the much larger Chinese Navy--but they forget China is also one of the world largest Drone Manufacturers in the world to the point both Ukraine and Russia are busy buying from China.
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2024-01-06
You clearly have no clue what you’re talking about. Have you ever lived in Mexico and Russia?
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2024-01-06
Nah, Russia can probably shut those off. It'll be F-16s again. Or maybe even the F-4 if Turkey really feels like dunking on the Russians.
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2024-01-06
Then you my friend are naive.
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2024-01-06
Agree. But, while America has massive inertia, we appear to maybe be in the early stages of collapse ourselves, and I think that is what Putin is poking out. He knew we were weak due to our dysfunctional economy and political system, and Trump is a golem he created to try and bring us to our knees and it hasn’t NOT worked. It’s not over yet but, even if we avoid Trump in November, we will have scraped by. And that will galvanize some of the worst America has to offer and we will start seeing naked white Christian terrorism. Be prepared for 20 years of American hell, the flavor of which will be determined in November. **TL;DR** Putin knows he can’t prevail in a war with the west. He’s hoping to crash the world and even the playing field a bit and China seems happy to help.
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2024-01-06
I understand what that scene is trying to say, but I don't think "deterrence is pointless" is a good lesson, and definitely not when you're facing down a dictator who's *already* started multiple wars of conquest.
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2024-01-06
Putins writing cheques he can’t cash. We all know he isn’t going to actually launch a nuclear attack. Thankfully for us he still has self interests which means he has self preservation, if he launches an attack on NATO or a Nuke, he and his legacy are done for and his ego won’t allow that.
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2024-01-06
Well, if they weren't also looking for a way out themselves... https://www.politico.eu/article/hungary-nato-prime-minister-viktor-orban-country-russia-vladimir-putin-west-official/
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2024-01-06
The Nordic states are way too close to Saint Petersberg. Invade Finland and have troops marching on the second most populated city in Russia, I severely doubt that Russia would invade Finland.
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2024-01-06
> Nato needs to arm the f*ck up Why?
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2024-01-06
Nah, Ukraine was isolated is the difference. 
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2024-01-06
That's my fear exactly - that pro-Putin cronies have infiltrated so many governments in Europe that if he ends up attacking NATO NATO won't respond at all, or the response will be so delayed that it'll be meaningless. Just a few days ago here in Bulgaria we had the President implying that we wouldn't send troops to Ukraine even if Putin directly attacks NATO, and while it wouldn't be up to him, comments like this do echo an increasingly popular sentiment that we should stay put and give our ass to Putin out of fear of worse retaliation if we don't. How many more countries will follow suit? And then there's the fact that, despite everything, Trump still stands a really good chance of winning in November, and if he does a good chunk of NATO's forces just evaporate and Ukraine falls within weeks. Terrifying stuff.
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2024-01-06
> Russia isn't the Cold War boogie man of the 60s. As someone put it during the Wagner incident- Russia's army went from being the 2nd best in the world, to the 2nd best in Ukraine, to the 2nd best in Russia.
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2024-01-06
Russia and China are operating on time scales that the democratic west can’t operate on. Leaders in the west have to worry about elections every few years. Autocracies don’t.
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2024-01-06
Yeah, they would need a large enough force to not be wiped out by the Finns alone at least. Which would be fairly easy to spot.
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2024-01-06
Your making my point for me. Nukes are effective anywhere in the world. ICBM's don't care about borders. Being closer is just a matter of optics.
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