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Because it's much cheaper to do so. Children in western countries, especially USA and Canada cost hundreds of thousands of dollars EACH before they hit 18, assuming the parents provide everything for the kid.
In these countries, they do not for one reason or another (not getting into politics).
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Semantics. The majority then.
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2024-06-06
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Private dating apps are super shitty, and should \*absolutely\* be public services instead:
* Centralized (whole dating pool in one place, no sex tourists)
* ID Verification, regional data, criminal history available for 100% of users
* No spam bots, because of ID verification (Tinder etc make money from spammers)
* All communications reportable to police (no dick pics or SW spam, take it to Line when if want privacy)
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2024-06-06
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To them this is a side effect of an intention, not a disease. Hence treatment instead of a cure.
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2024-06-06
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That's because taking away a woman's right to an education and livelihood is not a solution to this problem.
Once again, for the people in the back: the only viable solution is currently to lower housing costs, overall cost of living, raising middle class wages, and providing affordable education and healthcare. All of these, not just some of these.
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2024-06-06
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Population growth doesn’t have to be infinite….
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2024-06-06
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An app won't do anything unless the society, work culture, and economic model changes.
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2024-06-06
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> are doing everything that people say
They’re not yet doing the most obvious thing, which is a universal 3-4 day work week.
It is insane to suggest exclusion from the workforce when the most obvious solution is just forcing balance in the work/home contributions by reducing work hours.
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2024-06-06
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What issue are you referring to? Almost universally as quality of life and disposable income goes up the birth rate goes down.
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2024-06-06
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I hate this bad faith argument two different people have made towards my post. I'm not even going to respond because I don't believe they believe what they're saying.
The tiniest bit of critical thinking might tell you why it's easier to have a child in a rural area of afghanistan than in america.
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It's an innovative approach to address declining birth rates by leveraging technology to facilitate connections among potential partners. By creating a dating app specifically tailored to the needs and preferences of Tokyo residents, the government is taking proactive steps to encourage family formation and support population growth. It'll be interesting to see how successful this initiative proves to be in fostering meaningful relationships and ultimately contributing to a higher birthrate in the city.
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I think the work culture is part of it but isn’t the only thing is what I’m trying to get at. A stagnant economy doesn’t give people a lot of hope for the future, so that attitude doesn’t help the birth rate. People also don’t have time due to the work culture like you mentioned. But that work culture can’t be the main reason since places like Scandinavia which is known for having a good welfare state with leave for both parents have a super low birth rate too. I think the issue is super complicated and Japan needs to fix more than just the work culture, growing economy, because even successful places have issues with the fertility rate.
Few examples why:
Richer countries have lower birth rates than poor countries, generally. One reason is that in poor countries and agrarian societies, children are an economic benefit to the family, because they can work the farm or whatever, and bring in more money than it costs to raise them. But in rich countries like Japan, Norway, Sweden etc, raising children is incredibly expensive, and they don’t really provide money back to the family.
https://www.reddit.com/r/geography/comments/1ct4emy/comment/l49ksvq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Women do a disproportionate share of parenting and house work while also being expected to work jobs, maintain relationships, etc. This is true even in progressive and developed nations. It's exhausting. Many women choose not to parent and many mothers choose not to have larger families. As we've become more educated and as feminism as a movement has grown, we still aren't reaping the rewards in terms of equality within relationships.
People will dress it up with a lot of fancy words and data, but this is pretty much it. Parenting is hard and we have lost the communities that used to help us with all the hard work. Now it's often a couple raising a child with very little outside help. Women see the struggle and think twice
https://www.reddit.com/r/geography/comments/1ct4emy/comment/l4b13wa/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
It’s an issue everyone is facing, and everyone needs to figure out how to deal with it despite immigration since even China and India are facing the issue now with the fertility rates going down.
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That's a sobering statistic and highlights the demographic challenges facing Japan. The imbalance between births and deaths underscores the urgency of addressing factors such as aging populations, declining fertility rates, and social changes. It's a complex issue with far-reaching implications for healthcare, pensions, and economic stability. Efforts to support family-friendly policies and initiatives aimed at encouraging childbirth are crucial for addressing this demographic imbalance and ensuring a sustainable future for Japan.
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Interesting to compare with Canada. Birthrate here is also falling, but our government has absolutely opened the immigration floodgates, our population went up 3.2% just last year, and we haven't had this much immigration since 1952.
Personally I'd prefer the Japanese method because then at least I'd have a chance of affording a place to live one day and be able to afford to have children in my home country. Even if you make a salary that pays in the 10% of salaries here, you can't afford a place in most of the country unless you have sizeable wealth of parents to chip in. Meanwhile, in some shrinking towns in Japan they are giving away homes.
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How about supporting working women and not force them to quit work to take care of children?
How about helping women getting decent jobs instead of part-time jobs when they return after childbirth and raising a child?
How about hiring more women in top positions?
How about supporting single mom’s financially and mentally?
How about teaching men to respect working women and not to harass them in workplaces?
How about trusting women to decide what is best for them?
…I can guarantee that this dating app idea was made mostly (if not fully) by men.
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2024-06-06
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Maybe they could commission a manga to promote the dateing app.
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2024-06-06
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Surely the cost of living and housing are important?
Here in the UK you can have a reasonably good income, but after energy bills, paying off university debt, what you actually have left can be minimal.
Not denying religious people have more kids, but there has to be multiple factors influencing why people dont, surely? Greater choice for women, housing scarcity, disposable income etc?
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2024-06-06
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This wouldn’t solve the birth rate though. Scandinavian countries still have low birth rates.
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2024-06-06
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Probably be a good idea. On Tinder in Japan probably 95% of the girls don't show their face. Maybe because of the stigma, but I'm not sure how people manage to match with each other if you can barely know what the other looks like.
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if she divorces you or kicks the bucket, and you are many years out of your career you and your kids are toast.
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2024-06-06
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And affordable childcare, probably the biggest thing in America at least
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2024-06-06
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Japan has a really strange dating culture. Families are usually living in the same little apartments, and it’s frowned upon to bring a partner back to your place with mom and dad there. They even have love hotels specifically to cater to this issue.
Their work culture also makes it extremely difficult to find time to date which doesn’t help the problem. Quality of life becomes an issue when you’re overworked for little pay and everything costs too much.
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This is a good critique
But if they look so good by being at the gym, they’ll find someone else.
Not my type, not Reddit’s type, but staying in shape will be their skill
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2024-06-06
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are you implying the continued existence of our species depends on the lack of rights for women?
I see no way out of this hole unless the government simply pays women and couples to have children.
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Their birth rate is still well above replacement. And I'm sure they have more women's rights than a decade ago, and even more than a century ago. But you're partially correct IMO.
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This feels like the government screaming at its children, "Why don't you give me grandchildren?!"
Are YOU going to pay for them?
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its not a "cost" if the policy works, its an investment. Its a ""waste"" if its just for show.
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Dear wealthy people,
You can’t hoard all the money and expect a vibrant workforce. It simply doesn’t work that way. Creating dating apps is akin to buying pizza for staff meetings.
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2024-06-06
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They don't care about your love life, they just need a steady population stream.
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2024-06-06
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That just sounds like a ponzi scheme with... less steps than a usual ponzi scheme
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2024-06-06
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In a sea of poor quality options, you alone are the good one, youreloser, always remember that.
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2024-06-06
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Hey Japan, maybe consider making it more possible for people from other countries to become citizens...
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2024-06-06
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This. Chinese culture involves the grandparents in child raising as the current options in both Mainland China and Taiwan are lacking, also most elderly don't have pensions that support them fully, so they require help from their children.
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People desire to have kids in their 20s I would say, but there are other things that take precedent. I think plainly the issues are this
1. people are overeducated. If people could just get a job at 18, then party and travel for like 4 or 5 years straight basically, they would get it out of their system. The reality is most jobs a) still need a specific certificate b) can be learned in under a year.
2. by contrast the "infantile" stage extends at least to 22 and in many cases to like 24, because unless your parents are paying for it, you can't really do shit
3. Housing being the largest expense ACTUALLY makes children more expensive. It's understandable to want to own your own home when you have kids as renting with children is not good since you have no stability, and you'll prefer a single family home because you're going to get noise complaints and maybe get kicked out of an apartment for kids (this actually plays to a larger point, society is extremely intolerant of children, our societies have become so hyperoptimized that the "suboptimal" nature - read as "human" - is seen as a burden on everyone, and so children are not welcome in a shocking amount of public spaces, which makes it all the more expensive to have children because you need to be able to pay for those private spaces - which are more expensive - to let them be children, and this also of course requires more planning and thoughtfulness from would be parents).
I'd be willing to bet if we destroyed uni qualifications for most boring jobs/office work (you know, how it was pre-2000), wage increases were tied to housing inflation specifically, then we would see a higher birth rate. American birth rates were actually at replacement rate until 2008, as an example.
(There is some other stuff with men helping out around the house that increases fertility, but that gap has been closing over time, so we'd actually expect higher birth rates today than in the 1990s if the economic factors were held constant - lower education, better pay, cheaper housing).
Also, single family housing has been shown to be critical to birth rates. If urbanists want people in apartments they need to have way larger units, like 1500 sq ft for a family of 3 and + 300 sq ft per additional child
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>to launch dating app to boost birthrate
Ainu Hope: Episode I
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Korea is even worse, porn is just straight-up illegal there. Japan's censorship is just plain stupid and self-defeating, but at least the porn still EXISTS.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_South_Korea#:~:text=South%20Korea%20is%20one%20of%20the%20few%20countries%20that%20explicitly%20prohibits%20any%20form%20of%20pornography.%20Pornographic%20websites%2C%20books%2C%20writings%2C,sentence%20not%20exceeding%20one%2Dyear.
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developed on the back of 12 hour working days and enforced karaoke socials
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There is a whole host of factors. In western Europe, even the places with the lowest birthrates beat Japan by quite a bit.
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2024-06-06
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shutdown the internet.. problem solved
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2024-06-06
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The Nordics are doing everything you suggest, and their fertility is still cratering.
Taking away women's rights is obviously not the answer. Even if it were moral or remotely practical, there's no correlation between women's rights and fertility either. People who advocate that are doing so for their own reasons.
The simple facts are, no one really understands the causes of the demographic shift, and no one has come up with an effective intervention.
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That's what's so mind blowing about this. The issue isn't that people aren't dating anymore, there is more than enough dating apps out there and not a single person I know isn't in a relationship or actively looking.
But with the economy being the way it is, salaries staying the same, prices going up, not having enough teachers etc etc. nobody I know who doesn't already have kids, want's any. In fact 4 of my closest male friends have recently gotten vasectomies and they're all in their 30s.
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2024-06-06
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Isn’t housing affordable in Japan?
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2024-06-06
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Outsource the child rearing to their parents or day cares.
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2024-06-06
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I’ve survived with a single income once my kid was born. My wife is a stay at home mom but our kid is nearing adulthood though. We struggled and thankfully her parents had helped us a bit. I now make over six figures and it’s been a struggle. A few weeks ago my kid was telling us that they were happy as a child and when they said that I felt I was going to cry. I know that’s not going to help us financially but having had childhood physical and mental trauma myself, having your own kid saying they had an overall happy childhood just feels like an ultimate reward.
It sucks that our society primary thing is greed and power. We as a species can do so much better but insist on fucking over others seems to be like breathing.
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2024-06-06
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If I’ve misunderstood, I’d like to know. I have no motivation to take anything in any particular way.
You clearly have ideas and I’d like to hear them. Can you help me understand what exactly you mean?
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2024-06-06
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People getting together doesn't mean they'll have children though.
Also no way I'd trust the government with my dating data LOL
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> Honestly everything you described sounds exactly like what we’re facing in America. And from what the Canadians are saying here, sounds like them too. Arguable you guys seems a bit farther in the trenches.
Canadian here. Our solution to solving our birth rate problem here was unfettered immigration which has caused a SLEW of other problems. Canada is a melting pot, but the problem is we went and took unfettered immigrants from a single country (India) and nowhere else really. We are one of the fastest growing populations percentage wide in the world right now we are taking in so many.
We added 3.2% of our population in a single year. Most of them come to the GTA and we have added zero new hospitals and probably not many schools. Its crazy up here right now. All this instead of just leveling the playing field for the middle class.
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2024-06-06
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Less overworked is still overworked. Maybe they need even less work.
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2024-06-06
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Who's got the luv?
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2024-06-06
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I wonder if the male prostitute game in Japan is booming?
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I was just bemoaning OKCupid's downfall earlier this week. Through my 20s, I had 6 significant relationships and many fun connections that originated on that site. When I got out of a 3-year relationship in 2021, I came back to OKCupid and was aghast at what had become of it. A crappy Tinder knockoff with an overpriced subscription model was not what I expected to find. OKCupid's real value was the ability to write extensively about yourself and read in detail about others before reaching out, and the gamification of dating via swiping really eroded that kind of compatibility assessment.
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You're paying a minimum wage for it, not encouraging people who earn a minimum wage to have children.
Even at minimum wage, it is too expensive; but it would be the only way to create a large enough base that offsets the average birth rate. In any case, the point is to solve the demographics issue, of course every solution will have its own issues.
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2024-06-06
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This is the correct way to look at it. A population of 1 million and a population of 1 billion both have the same issues if the average person is 60 years old.
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2024-06-06
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I know this as "mental stack". Managing your mental stack has only become harder I'd definitely agree. Its what has pushed me to a minimalistic behaviors and mindset.
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2024-06-06
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that paper is frequently cited but proves nothing
if you read the numbers, it's taken from only 1500 people in the US and the difference isn't even that significant (15 percent vs 21 percent).
the whole thing might as well be a rounding error on a tiny group of people.
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and yet still stay in office 80hours a week
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2024-07-06
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If you are talking about what you think will happen, I agree that humans will adapt. Religious communities are growing globally and I think there will be a strong revival among all religions in the next 30-40 years which will result in a dramatic shift to some hybrid of modern and traditional values. This is already starting to happen in places like Israel, the United states (like Utah), India (Hinduism), and of course across different parts of the middle east. I think some societies will die off and be replaced by more religious immigrants, but overall, I think the problem will correct itself over a few generations.
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I wonder how close all this is to something like Lupus
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FYI. Starting Monday June 10th and lasting through June 16th you will be able to get 5 regular roast beef sandwiches for only $5!
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2024-05-06
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UC guy here - please give me this tomorrow
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2024-05-06
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As someone who has already had their bowel removed to this horrible disease I really hope for the future that better treatment is available
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2024-05-06
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Well the good news, they seem both very confident in the treatment and their ability to bring it to market in less than 5 years.
Unfortunately for Americans it will likely cost $10,000 a pill while the rest of the world gets it for $25 a month.
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2024-05-06
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Hail science 🐹 (Southpark)
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2024-05-06
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So 5x the diarrhea?
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2024-05-06
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It's a legit deal, but must use app or Arbys.com.
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2024-05-06
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Pffft, what has science ever done for me?
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2024-06-06
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As someone with Crohn’s this is good news. Now all I gotta worry about is not getting louie body disease my grandfather had or dementia my grandmother had.
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2024-06-06
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Dude, that’s not science, it’s technology.
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2024-06-06
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Seems that some of the exclusivity some of the brand names enjoyed for Crohn's treatment has ended and insurances have been a lot easier to deal with on doctor's office side of things, it was going thru big changes when I left that job only about 1 month ago (slight correction). Before it was often being forced to have patients try cheaper treatments that weren't as effective to tick the boxes so insurance pays for the expensive ones. Then just new drugs being developed as well. Basically (and ideally) the doctor will be able to give you drugs that you respond better to easier for cheaper and there's some new players in the game now.
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I don't have IBD, but IBS, and let me tell you: food type has very little to do with it. It is an autoimmune response and can be triggered by the healthiest food in existence. That's the entire problem for both IBD and IBS, there's no one knows exactly how it happens (until now for IBD) and why. What's one trigger for one person is not a trigger for another.
I would do anything to get rid of my IBS, and if you think diet is something I haven't tried before you're absolutely the most naive person in existence. With a good diet IBS flares still randomly happen, but less frequent. With an unmanaged diet (among others) the flares happens consistently and a lot more frequent.
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We have a hard time with science. alot of people would say its a hoax, its un godly, natural remidies are the best solution, detoxify with this root so on so forth. And all the science community is trying to do is put forth facts.
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2024-06-06
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These immune disorders are not the consequence of one's lifestyle choices, you dolt.
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Video of hundreds of them chanting "Death to Arabs"...very very ugly stuff. Mostly younger folks. [Israeli peace activists bravely stood up for Palestinians as well](https://x.com/omdimbeyachad/status/1798371416154444102)--they are heroic.
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Not to mention, it was just lucky incident, that Stalin and Hitler have not come to agreement… at some point, there were good chance they would fight alongside… not against one another
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You’re forgetting the clown-show run by Winnie the Pooh, the circus next door that sends balloons of shit, and the carnival a bit west that murders women over their hair.
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Don't see the need to invite the Russians when representatives from Ukraine will be present. The USSR was more than just Russia.
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They were part of the allied powers…only once they were stabbed in the back and forced to change their minds…
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2024-05-06
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Yeah great, but still have no business on the beaches of Normandy- maybe the USSR could be but current day Putin has no right being present celebrating the defeat of dictatorial tyranny in Europe
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The Soviets invaded 2 weeks after Germany, the Allies of course never declared war on the USSR either
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Yeah, there are people who genuinely post some seriously ridiculous crap. Sometimes the sarcasm flies under the radar.
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To win the PM spot Meloni had to basically become a euro-neocon. Her party is still tied historically to Fascism but she is trying to market her party as less far right that it used to be, or still is, depending on who you ask.
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No paywall:
https://archive.ph/2024.06.05-131127/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/05/world/asia/india-elections-modi-coalition.html
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More like floating down de-nial. The one form of river that doesn't look like it's drying up anytime soon!
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2024-05-06
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Boss said I still need to clock in to work tomorrow so… 🤷
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2024-05-06
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Yep. Most of Africa is completely fucked in this regard, I have no idea how the world is gonna handle 2.something billion people running away from a burning continent. I really hope it's not gonna be the "gun them down" option, but I think I know better :/
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2024-05-06
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Financial market investors are some of the most selfish people on the planet. All they care about (generally speaking) is numbers going up.
The only way to get them to invest in planet-saving businesses is to make planet-saving more profitable than planet-harming.
I'm not sure how we do that.
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2024-05-06
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I get so dismayed when I hear people say that humans will be fine and after the climate "rebounds" we'll try again.
No. after the last mass extinction events it took over 10 MILLION years for biodiversity to reach pre-extinction levels.
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2024-05-06
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Who are the shareholders?
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2024-05-06
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Even the warehouses are full of junk nobody wants. And it's called "Value" somewhere on a spreadsheet.
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2024-05-06
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cool, now I’m scared to actually live, we’re so lucky to live in these times
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2024-05-06
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It's barely summer to be fair. We are 5 days in to June. And the average high temperature for June is around 18-20c
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2024-05-06
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Which is why all those racists in Europe are (besides other obvious reason) extremly stupid.. "we don't care about climate crisis, we care about the refugee problem." Well guess what... What's about to come is much worse/challenging than what's happening right now.
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2024-05-06
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It's literally impossible for capitalism to work that way
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2024-05-06
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Most people.
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