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The Atlantic current is so weak right now, Europe is enjoying a nice break from the heat.
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2024-05-06
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Delicious humans.
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2024-05-06
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Other corporations.
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The UN also does nothing to stop violence besides raise an arm and say “naughty naughty” while also having workers steal. So let’s not worry what they pretend to care about.
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2024-05-06
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"Move along. Nothing to see here."
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2024-05-06
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I found my cave to live in so I’m doing my part
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2024-05-06
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Lol, and pensioners, and people with savings ... a lot of them. With very small stakes in sone funds, and the funds are the big shareholders.
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2024-05-06
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Actually, the majority of companies are owned by 5 individual companies that all own shares in each other.
Ultrawealthy are the shareholders. 401k’s pale in comparison to the equity that ultrawealthy hold.
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2024-05-06
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2024-05-06
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Sooo glitter bomb the stratosphere?
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2024-05-06
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It is not like humans would be the first creature on earth to almost wipe out all other life.
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2024-05-06
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Just do a rain dance or the modern equivalent.
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2024-05-06
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Please don't, for their sake, because you need to put them first.
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2024-05-06
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That's not being negative, it's being realistic. It's the key reason this crisis is so hard to solve. Fossil fuels are the cheapest source of energy we have, switching to anything else means everything gets a lot more expensive which in turns means diminished quality of life for everyone.
Think about how much people freak out when gas goes up $1/gallon, now imagine if gas doubled in price overnight from a government carbon tax. Except you don't have to imagine, because France already tried carbon taxing gas and it caused a nationwide riot.
Now throw in the reality that no country's actions matter on their own meaning if Country A voluntarily handicaps it's economy to cut down on emissions all that may happen is Country B increases emissions even more as they capture all the lost business from Country A.
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Third world countries like India and China have been adding renewable capacity at a greater scale than anywhere else. China now has the world's largest solar capacity and is set to begin a period of CO2 emissions decline from this year
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2024-05-06
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Capitalism yay
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2024-05-06
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Who cares. The only ones who have the power to change it are the ones who control it along with all the leaders. The rich.
Until then fuck it, nobody young can afford a house, they can barely afford survival anyways. Hopefully the rich live long enough to see everyone else die by time the die alone clinging to their "riches"
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2024-05-06
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the styrofoam in the landfill takes a long time to fully degrade, those molecules take time to get to the upper atmosphere where they do the damage.
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2024-05-06
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What sort of glue?
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2024-05-06
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It’s only going to get tougher to deal with as time goes on. Many developing global south countries like China, India, Brazil, and Indonesia will need tons of energy resources and cheap products to lift many parts of their country out of poverty and starvation and to try and become 2nd or 1st world countries.
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2024-05-06
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Yep, I'm in the same boat. I'm not going to have kids. My brother isn't going to have kids. I barely have contact with my cousins. I'll die in the next 30 or 40 years, and I just don't care anymore if humanity goes extinct. The people who can actually do something about it aren't, and I'm tired of pretending that I even have one/one-trillionth the influence of some oil company ceo. We've known this was coming for a century and did nothing about it. The billionaires who are leaving behind children and grandchildren can think about that when they're on their deathbeds.
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You are going to be really surprised when Britain freezes due to the AMOC collapsing while other countries near the equator burn.
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Jesus, the UN is holding its 20th+ year of annual climate conferences in Dubai of all places. I’ve been to a couple of them. The COP process is a joke and the UN can engage in some introspection here. That being said - this is horrible news.
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2024-05-06
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Sure, let's pretend that 8 billion humans consuming everything in sight hasn't had an impact. Let's pretend that every single scientific measurement proving human induced climate change is wrong. Happy with that? A lifelong smokers lungs were going to decompose eventually whether they smoked or not right? That's the natural cycle of the human lung. So might as well smoke a packet a day?
Fuck me, even the OIL companies knew these were hard proven facts. But sure, everyone is wrong and bald55 will go down in history as the only one who really got it right.
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Oh well we all gotta go somehow.
Meanwhile I'll continue to live the life I have left and leave this problem for someone else to deal with. I pay enough in taxes and deal with enough shit in my day to day job to be driving what I want, going where I want along with eating what I want, thanks.
Sick of others telling others what they can or cannot do.
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2024-05-06
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2024-05-06
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The “climate refugee” crisis is gonna dwarf anything we’ve ever seen. Absolute myopia for the rich countries to not see this. Only way to stop it will be to build walls, militarize their borders, be taken over by nationalism.
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2024-05-06
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Lol, it's already too late.
We can survive the climate change, but can we survive the climate change AND the wars it will cause?
We have a tough road ahead.
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2024-06-06
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Don't worry, religion isn't going away anytime soon. Rich people will continue to weaponize religion against poor people so that poor people continue to make decisions against their own best interest and then reproduce regardless of what kind of life their children are going to have. Religion is a scourge.
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2024-06-06
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Conditions simply will not exist, on a planet with the chemical composition of Earth, for temperatures to get that high. Modern science is not guessing here. We studied geological data from hundreds of millions of years ago. The hottest global average temperatures, outside of literal catastrophic collisions that created the Moon, are ~80-90 degrees Fahrenheit.
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/whats-hottest-earths-ever-been
It’s not going to be comfortable, modern civilization as we know it will likely collapse, and billions will die.
But humanity will live on just fine if we stick to cooler areas.
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America, specifically, will be perfectly fine. Especially if we close our southern borders. Having two oceans act as natural barriers make it prohibitively difficult to attack us.
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2024-06-06
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He's just content to hold the biggest "I told you so" against the rest of us.
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2024-06-06
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Which will do nothing but hand the earth to people who think differently than you.
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2024-06-06
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Literally from nasa. So now nasa is wrong you f&cking idiot
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2024-06-06
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According to some experts we should have ceased to exist 20 years ago due to climate change yet here we are. The narrative never changes.
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2024-06-06
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thats why some of them chose an island with natural barrier all around to prevent immigrationcalypse
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2024-06-06
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You doing like a Trump thing , just talking out your ass
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The United States is the world’s leading producer of food. We produce far, far more food than our comparatively small population requires. We’re going to be the last country that worries about food.
We may have to occupy Canada to secure our water supplies, but they’re a trivial military threat if it came to that.
America is a natural fortress. Our politicians also have centuries of experience lying to us and whipping us into a war frenzy. I think there’s been like 15 years or something out of our 200+ year history when we weren’t at war with somebody. We will absolutely find a scapegoat to invade. Maybe those pesky Canadians hogging all our water.
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They didn't say all life would be wiped out, but that it'll lead to further extreme weather patterns, which it has, also see rising ocean temperatures killing ocean fauna and flora.
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Sorry man, gotta do this because I'm busy writing something similar for a class I'm teaching related to environmental policy and the future of a warming planet. I'm not saying you're outright wrong, but more that this is an *extremely* myopic viewpoint that makes it easier to fall into the "might as well do nothing" group of doomerism.
> No one will care enough to do anything meaningful until it's too late because we are trapped in our self-contained bubbles of comfort. As long as furnaces and air conditioners can run 24/7 unabated, no one's going to do a damn thing about this beyond finger wagging and half-hearted efforts.
Yes and no. While it's true that we continue to run resource consumption at a high rate, the reality is that our energy intensity is actually significantly lower than what projections would have indicated due to decades of investments in energy saving tech - so we can certainly have a modern global standard of living without collapse, given our incredible accomplishments in this area.
Finger wagging and half-hearted efforts is also doing a disservice to the immense work that has been done in the latter half of the 20th century through to today in the field of environmental problem solving. Developed economies are increasingly adopting regulations that make importing from major pollution sources much more expensive - even China, of all places, has probably the strongest record of setting targets for itself and getting close to them of all major world economies. The article you're replying to is the head of the UN loudly talking shit about major economies and their contributions to climate change.
It's not half-hearted so much as it is a tug of war. And that tug of war will exist well into "how can we mitigate this".
> You know, the scary thing is, to me - we will get mitigation and change, when it's profitable to do so.
Speaking of, we're doing this already. Ocean Cleanup is one solid grassroots example, and [presently 170 nations are negotiating a major plastics control treaty that could change fundamentally one major source of environmental harm](https://www.unep.org/inc-plastic-pollution). We're also seeing the rise of vegetarian, vegan, and flexitarian movements that reduce reliance on meat consumption from industrial agricultural sources in developed nations.
Energy is also a huge area of change - the cost of solar installations has decreased 90% in the last 20 years, alternative energy sources are on what appears to be an exponential adoption curve for the foreseeable future, coal (by far the most polluting energy source) is likely to be phased out as a major energy source globally (with the exception of India) in the next 20 years, and China (again) has managed to make 50% of all new car sales EVs. Most major climate organizations - governmental, private, and NFP - agree that we are on a path to change the temperature curve from "business as usual" projections; if even some of the largest emitters are able to meet some of their commitments, we have a fighting chance.
It's also just challenging to get it right, as experiments with REDD and REDD+ have indicated - after all, is it fair for a developing nation to be prevented from using its natural resources to develop? If it isn't, how do we ensure that these nations and the people in them are still able to afford to live? But the point is that the experiments ARE happening to determine what policy level solutions can occur.
> (Also, the pandemic demonstrated that if we as a species collectively just... stopped... long enough, the planet would in fact recover, and recover relatively quickly too. Oh well.)
Again, yes and no. The pandemic only showed that emissions could be slowed, but we are almost certainly baked in for 2C at this point. It showed that a lot of what we do is certainly wasteful, from how we build our infrastructure and cities to our expectations for labor. But this period was also one where a *lot* of people found their living situations more precarious and their bellies a lot less full.
To be clear, I'm not dismissing the severity of the coming century. It is going to be bad, probably for everyone at some point. But it is far from a lost cause, or one that will only see meaningful change when its too late to do anything meaningful. It's just harder than most people think to alter the trajectory of an entire planetary, interconnected economic system. But things *are* happening. The momentum is important. Because while yes, we should have started fifty years ago, the next best time to start is right now.
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The A.I. Drones won't even feel bad about following orders.
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> Only way to stop it will be to build walls
Opportunity to make billions
>militarize their borders
Another opportunity to make billions
> be taken over by nationalism
BONUS!
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We would simply go underground obviously sunlight and water are not an issue so we could grow crops underground and we can live underground.
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I recall reading that Venus was at a somewhat reasonable temperature until not too long ago.
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2024-06-06
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Ah yes, the old "you ride private jets so let's ignore all the warnings from the scientists who don't ride private jets, continue doing absolutely nothing, and dooming the vast majority of people who also don't ride private jets to a climate hell" argument.
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2024-06-06
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What do they have to say about geoengineering and raising the planets albedo?
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2024-06-06
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It really does. Today nVidia became the 2nd most valuable company in the world!
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Maybe 15 years ago I remember reading a discussion with three climatologists. I'm not sure if Gavin Schmidt was one of them, but the upshot was that clouds would be the deciding factor. I don't know if since then more research has removed the doubt but at the time it was said that clouds would either reflect the extra heat back into space, or if they didn't, and their effect was to reflect the heat back at the earth, and this isn't a direct quote, but something to the effect of: next stop Venus
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> Only way to stop it will be to build walls, militarize their borders, be taken over by nationalism.
This has already started to happen. It's been happening for at least a decade and there is footage all over you tube of people from North Africa storming fences in Melilla, crossing the Mediterranean to Italy via boat, etc.
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2024-06-06
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A presidential candidate in the US just a few days ago said that sea rising meant mor beach front property.
Yeah we are fucked.
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2024-06-06
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Tell it to our leaders. Not much we can do from here.
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2024-06-06
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Did "people" truly have any real choice in the end? Because from where I stand, they were sold a lie about achieving the "American Dream" by feeding a beast that grew larger and larger until it took over the Earth and still demanded more.
Doesn't matter who you vote for, where you live, or what you personally believe in, at the end of the day, every living human is a slave to the beast and nearly every decision made in government is in service to making the beast larger at any cost.
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Yes the Sun causes Earth's temperature to be above freezing rather than close to absolute zero. Human impacts are only going to completely change weather systems and raise surface temperatures by a couple more degrees.
It's those last couple of degrees and climate chaos which are human-created that will cause us a lot of problems though, because we're set up to not deal with them, just the Sun's input.
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2024-06-06
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Heh, your comment can be interpreted a couple of ways
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2024-06-06
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yes trust the UN
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2024-06-06
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We'll pay for all this eventually, thankfully myself and everbody else in here will be long dead by that time
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2024-06-06
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Your points are harsh but true, however I think you're laying the blame wrong.
There are three kinds of refugees: environmental, violence, and economic. I don't know which of the first two are the majority, but very soon it's going to be environmental refugees from climate collapse, with violence coming from fights over dwindling resources and 'safe' land.
It's not that the center/left didn't act in response to immigration, it's that NOBODY is properly addressing why immigration is so rampant in the first place. Voting for *anyone* that wants to act on immigration while supporting policies that continue to degrade the planet is not going to get the desired results.
The rise of the extreme right was inevitable because of the 'mild' right/center and their policies (or lack thereof) over the past century.
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I'm afraid it's going to be very "Children of Men"...
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A real patriot wouldn’t work with their countries adversaries.
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2024-06-06
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A state of forever being behind
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2024-06-06
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Yeah this sounds like shitting on China for no reason lol. If I wanted to learn how to fly a plane I'm almost certainly going to hire a pilot than learn myself lmao.
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2024-06-06
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They're already trained wrong. It's China.
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Why would you release names before anything can be proven. Conservatives should be pushing to be part of the oversight of the investigation, not to prematurely release names and possible end careers of innocent people
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2024-05-06
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Peepee is assuming that it's just Liberals that will be revealed.
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You really think Orban would switch side and start bombing other European countries? NATO would put them down quicker than Orban could say “sorry“.
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2024-05-06
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Poland is just frothing at the fucking mouth right now.
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2024-05-06
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Excellent. I propose we give Ukraine nukes in that case. Two can play this game.
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2024-05-06
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There are no coincidences lol. All international missile sales are governed by MTCR, else every country will have their own stockpile of IRBMs and super long range cruise missiles.
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2024-05-06
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The same long range weapons that the patriot systems have been handling pretty easily? Gah bummer what a shame
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2024-05-06
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Give it to one of the dozen of terrorist organisations in the middle east if you wanna piss of the west. They dont have any lines they wont cross.
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2024-05-06
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How to crash your economy in 1 easy step.
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2024-05-06
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Meanwhile in Ukraine...
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2024-05-06
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Turkey has Russian systems
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2024-05-06
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With luck the CIA puts a stop to his heart if he tries to pull more traitor shit.
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2024-05-06
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2024-05-06
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I have a feeling that he'd get kennedy'ed if he tried to deprive the MIT of that potentially almost unlimited cash flow.
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He can’t supply his own armies with munitions without China, NK and Iran but he’s just going to give away the very weapons his soldiers need? Sure.
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2024-05-06
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They'd better get busy then. The entire top half of the Republican party might have to join him as well.
Long term, the us is fucked.
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2024-05-06
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It really sucks that this lead up to WW3 has to be so slow and drawn out. Either throw fucking hands or stop the bullshit & leave Ukraine. Same with Israel… either occupy the land or leave them rebuild. China as well… try for taiwan or get the fuck over it. These farcical diplomatic efforts are only delaying the inevitable and giving folks a false sense of reality
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Putin warns, Russia threatens blah blah. I almost wish they would cross OUR red line so we could finally glass the motherfuckers
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2024-05-06
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The US is definitely not “fucked” long term lol
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2024-05-06
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yes. his plan is to have Iran-Hamas-Houthis strike western targets, then have Belarus and People's Republic of FSB (Donbas) attack Poland. if people respond attacking Russia, then Russia's says 'oh no YOU attacked us'. then Putin gets the Russia-Nato war he wants, counting that we either back down or we escalate into a war that makes him even more secure domestically.
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2024-05-06
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From the garbage bin to the sea, Palestine will be free
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Exactly. If Russia had more weapons they would use them in Ukraine. This is an empty threat aimed at gullible people in the west who might get scared about Russian retaliation.
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2024-05-06
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That would be bad for Russia in many ways.
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2024-05-06
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The US should just just Annex Russia and get over with it.
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2024-05-06
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This is a classic Russia move. Not really different than the "little green men" that were totally not Russian troops invading Ukraine. By creating plausible deniability, it hinders cohesion of the response. If Russia attacks NATO directly, it's a clear Article 5 action and it's game on. If a non-Russian actor fires on NATO and Russia denies involvement, it becomes a much murkier response and more challenging for NATO allies to act with consensus.
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OK then - sell them to Iran or North Korea. Both of those places are less dangerous and insane then Russia, who is currently attempting to genocide an entire neighboring nation *for no reason.*
If Russia possesses a weapon - it's 100% certain they'll use that weapon to kill Ukrainians. If the North Koreans have them, they'll probably never use them, since their aim is to maintain their regime, not attack neighbors. And the Iranians albeit not stable, are more stable than Russia.
How is this not a a win for everybody who is not Russia?
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No one wants to annex Russia. At best, beating them back and crippling their economy gets Putin tarnished and out, with a liberal turn after his death or deposing. Thats years, decades away.
Anyway, the ussr provided weapons to half the world and killed tens of thousands of westerners, this’ll just be more of that.
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Countries can divide the western forces if they all decide to attack some bs.
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2024-05-06
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And those countries would get steamrolled.
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2024-05-06
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"Hey! If you don't stop stopping me from bullying this much smaller country than me, I'll keep doing that thing that I'm already doing!"
Putin's such a fuckin' clown
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2024-05-06
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Who are these states so willing to lob Russian missiles at Western “targets” from their countries and prompting Western military retaliation because Putin decided to give them missiles?
Second, Western countries have every right to supply Ukraine under the Declaration on Rights and Duties of States (1949), Articles 8-14, which 193 countries are a party to. Russia remains in the wrong since February 24, 2022, along with Iran and N. Korea for providing Russia (invader, conquerer) with weapons for striking Ukrainians.
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2024-05-06
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more reasons to strike russia now with an overwhelming blow to help it get rid of putin and his cronies.
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2024-05-06
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*yawn*
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2024-05-06
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Ok, so then we finally can go smash those places with nato.
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2024-05-06
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The only countries that would deal with Russia Putin should know he can’t turn his back on them either. They are just as corrupted deceitful and evil as he is. And he’s already sharing with them.
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