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There’s a laundry list of reasons why Sunak should go, but, from my understanding he’s a genuine Southampton fan.
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2024-07-06
In US we love to talk about democracy, but we dont live in a democracy
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2024-07-06
By the way, every jew I know in real life are saying the same thing: it's a massacre that needs to be stopped. Generalizing jews as people who would all be for this massacre is just another antisemitic rethoric.
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2024-07-06
>I trust the Hamas as much as I trust the current Israel government. Yet you quote Hamas figures.
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2024-07-06
I would love to have a child. This is just one reason why I don't think I will.
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2024-07-06
If all these doomers would kill themselves, the rest maybe have a chance. Feeling superior with the head in the Sand, i dont get it.
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2024-07-06
It won't lead to extinction if more people decide to stop having children because there will still be many who don't care and want children anyway, and people who have accidents without access to abortion procedures. However, people have the freedom to choose if they're ok with creating a life to live in a planet that is becoming increasingly inhospitable. I personally couldn't live with the guilt of knowing how much my child will suffer just because I wanted to bring them into the world. It would be too painful and I wouldn't blame them for resenting me. I know some people don't care about how hard their children's lives will be, but I want what's best for my would-be children and sometimes the answer is not existing. It's the same reason I wouldn't choose to have a child if I was stuck on an island with a volcano that was due to erupt.
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2024-07-06
That’s why Starship exists. We humans will destroy our earth before an asteroid hits it.
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2024-07-06
nice, easy convenient excuse.
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2024-07-06
China is also interested in going more green. Heck they make the most affordable electric cars, but we will never have any of those in the west if it's up to the auto lobby and politics.
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2024-07-06
Same here. I decided to not have kids because I’m convinced the world is fucked up, and the next few hundred years will be hell. I do hope I’m wrong.
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2024-07-06
Science really failed on the messaging about the threats of climate change. We don’t need to “save the planet”- the planet will continue in some form. We need to save ourselves. And they could draw in the right wing xenophobes by emphasizing that warming climate = more migration.
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2024-07-06
“That unapparent summer air in early fall, the quiet comprehending of the ending of it all"
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2024-07-06
Whatever you say CBS. It's just a simulation. Laugh a little.
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2024-07-06
Sent from my iPhone.
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2024-07-06
We like to blame China but they are making all those emissions manufacturing all the stuff westerners are buying, so it’s driven a lot by our demand.
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2024-07-06
Is this simply not legal to deteriorate the environment to the point of causing prejudice to future people?
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2024-07-06
The kids dont. Its on us to fight like hell to make it better for them. But we wont. Thats why I aint having kids
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2024-07-06
Isn’t that the catch 22 or all of this. In order to make technology to save the world we’re destroying it at the same time?
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2024-07-06
Theoreticatly if you have a sqm of alluminium on the moon you can make another sqm in a week. Do that 53 times and you have enough alluminium for the solar shade.
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2024-07-06
Why would a random redditor be able to answer this for you? Do you think I am wrong if I don't know the exact number? Right now we need a sharp population drop and it can be managed by experts, not me or random redditors. But don't worry, absolutely nothing will be done and we will leave this planet destroyed well beyond what previous generations can fix and by the time the population realizes you can't just allow idiot humans to breed as much as they want it will be much too late to reverse the course.
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2024-07-06
I was talking to a boomer about it and they said “in the 70s they told us there was going to be another ice age, I’ll believe it when I see it”
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2024-07-06
20000 years of this 7 more to go
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2024-07-06
This is really the key. Humanity can do amazing things when it has to. One wonders where we'd be with fusion if there weren't so many interests against it. A lot of third world countries are going to be completely depopulated, and it's gonna suck, but we'll fix it eventually.
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2024-07-06
Don’t worry, we’ll just buy for offsets. If that fails can we just launch a money rocket into the atmosphere?
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2024-07-06
Source? And even if you come up with one, not sure why that changes things.
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2024-07-06
Especially since they're commenting as their true selves, without even a bit of pseudo-anonymity of say Reddit.
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2024-07-06
The ironic part is that without it we would never be having this conversation.
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2024-07-06
I think that if people continually amplify the "we're fucked" messaging then nothing will change. All these people will sit in a corner and wait for "the end". Instead talk to people about these concerns. Try to convince them. Vote locally. Be involved in what your community is doing. I couldn't live with myself if I knew there were things I could have done but didn't.
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2024-07-06
this makes me think of a story I saw earlier, how fascism is really getting more popular. And then I see the video, and its all old people/boomers chanting the vile slogans across europe. Apparently boomers want a war because they know they won't have to fight it. Same with the climate, they know they won't have to live through it.
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2024-07-06
Also, plants dont live forever, and when they die, a lot of that CO2 sequestered gets re-released. I think for trees, they sequester like 70-80% of all the CO2 they'd sequester in the first 10-20 years, so I guess we could grow a bunch of trees and then every decade cut them all down and bury them lol.
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2024-07-06
That's a myth.
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2024-07-06
This is why Project 2025 wants to eliminate the NOAA
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2024-07-06
What do you expect from sapient creatures that only live \~60 years, it's short term thinking from one end to the other.
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2024-07-06
Thomas Malthus may end up being right, but not in the way he expected. 
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2024-07-06
It takes a decade just to build a nuclear plant. Carbon capture is basically a myth. It's a PR stunt by the wealthy to make excuses not to change their behavior. The real answer is everything will suck, and get worse, for 50 years while we build out three things: nuclear + renewables + a grid that can handle it (get rid of cars), mass reforestation and resilient agriculture (alley cropping at bare minimum, but every single household with land should be producing some kind of food), and, most importantly, we should be capturing as much fresh water as inhumanely possible and sinking it into the groundwater tables. This last one alone will take a New Deal-sized investment from America just to dig out all of the swales and berms and percolating ponds necessary to accomplish it. We're not going to have snow-melt. Not reliably. We need to get that water from somewhere else, and that means capturing every drop of rain, from a light mist to a hurricane, and spreading it as far and wide across the land as possible.
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what do you say now? https://theconversation.com/scientists-understood-physics-of-climate-change-in-the-1800s-thanks-to-a-woman-named-eunice-foote-164687 > Foote conducted a simple experiment. She put a thermometer in each of two glass cylinders, pumped carbon dioxide gas into one and air into the other and set the cylinders in the Sun. The cylinder containing carbon dioxide got much hotter than the one with air, and Foote realized that carbon dioxide would strongly absorb heat in the atmosphere.
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2024-07-06
What exactly do you think corporations do? Do you think industries are temples to pray to the god of economics to make them richer? No, they sell the products to *you*, *you* the consumer. All plastic straws go to *you*.
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2024-07-06
Biodiversity will come back, we came from dinosaurs to humans, and our era and a lot of other creatures will end eventually. Just a little faster than it would have if humanity didn't screw themselves over. But life and Earth will go on, until the sun goes boom boom I guess. 
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What laws are you gonna charge them with?
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2024-07-06
Not only were we not alive back then, but we have broken past the maximum CO2 levels caused by natural cycles.
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I hate seeing loved ones suffer and I care more about the well-being of my would-be children than the survival of our species. I guess this isn't common, but I don't think life is worth living if it won't be enjoyable.
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2024-07-06
Look at any survey of what people rank as their most important considerations when voting and you'll realize even without corporate influence this would still be a challenge. In Europe, for example, Green parties are expected to lose big this election because of economic and immigration fears. People rank economy above all, green energy only comes up as a consideration when those other needs are met. The investment required to actually meet green energy needs and climate goals are highly disruptive and costly, and I doubt people would accept these changes easily.
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2024-07-06
Everyone needs to become a Buddhist monk and own and want nothing.
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2024-07-06
It's the same strategy they used for smoking. Just cast doubt on the research showing it's bad and just keep doing it. It's insane how pure greed can drive people to seek profit at the cost of literally everything... These people are psychotic.
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2024-07-06
I mean he’s not wrong either. Climate change has always been a thing.
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2024-07-06
Western govs and rich companies can suck my carbon dioxide infused dick. May your yahtchs sink to the bottom of the ocean.
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2024-07-06
We can at least hope so. The average modern human is actually quite weak and have poor survivability. Its only a select few geniuses that come up with solutions and civilization itself hold everybody else above the surface. If civilization collapses, almost everybody is likely fucked beyond belief.
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2024-07-06
can't wait for the SummoningSalt video on this one
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2024-07-06
While this is true, the reality is that the economic organization pumping out all that CO2 will completely collapse far before we ever get close to 2k+ ppmv.
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2024-07-06
No, they don’t want to do that.
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2024-07-06
“Global Warming” actually stopped over 25 years ago. The people behind this latest scare are Socialists promoting their agenda. An independent group of scientists needs to verify the “evidence”. Carbon dioxide is needed for photosynthesis, or we all die. The so-called “scientists” pushing this are Socialist kooks.
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2024-07-06
Both. Both parties are, to various extents. And I'm not trying to "both sides" this, OpenSecrets literally lists members of both parties as top recipients to oil and gas lobby money: [Senate](https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips?code=E01++&cycle=2024&ind=E01++&mem=Y&recipdetail=S) [House](https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips?code=E01++&cycle=2024&ind=E01++&mem=Y&recipdetail=H) It's terrifying, our future is being bought and sold by people we elected to represent US, the humans who must live through it. Corporate money has no place in politics.
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2024-07-06
Even if they believe it, I'm afraid their response will be focused on defending from migrants, not on reducing emissions.
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2024-07-06
At this point I just accept it.  I don't bother reading the articles.  Will just try to enjoy whatever "normal" time I have left.  I don't have kids which probably helps with that mindset.
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2024-07-06
... welcome to fight club
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2024-07-06
Consumers aren’t responsible people broadly speaking. Neither are corporations. But it’s much easier for a corporation to enact a responsible practice than it is for every consumer to start acting responsibly. If a company stops selling single use plastic packaging for example, that will have benefits orders of magnitude greater than SOME people refusing to buy it, whilst everyone else continuing to do so.
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2024-07-06
Well, around 1000 ppm it will cause drowsiness. From 2000 ppm headaches, sleepiness. We've gone from 320 to 420 in 60 years, so this will become an issue at some point. And well before 1000 ppm is reached because inside concentrations tend to be much higher and it's harder to fix it with ventilation if the outside air has more CO2.
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2024-07-06
There needs to be a full-scale prosecution of every climate denialist, every politician who opposed climate change mitigation policy, and every right-winger who voted for them.
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2024-07-06
Nah see this isn't a matter of everyone pointing a finger at one another. We know where all the carbon in the atmosphere comes from, and it's from meat production, big business and the military. The whole idea of you taking personal responsibility for climate change, your 'carbon footprint', was literally created by fossil fuel marketing execs to offload responsibility onto the public.
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There will be enclaves in highly desirable regions of the world where those who can afford to live there will live there and, those who cannot will live in Greater Bangladesh... Note: not meant to be a slam on Bangladesh, per se, but, c'mon, it is hot, sticky, climate-compromised, and rather impoverished.
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2024-07-06
After a few mass casualty events, I'd wager that India or China seeds the stratosphere with sulphur dioxide, which could work, or it could have disastrous unforeseen consequences.
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2024-07-06
Hey you are the one saying it’s irresponsible to have children. I would think you would have thought past that statement. But you haven’t. It’s just government sanctioned pregnancy I’m hearing. 
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2024-07-06
no... we are very very far from that
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2024-07-06
CO2 per se is good for plant life, unfortunately when CO2 concentration rises, a lot of other things start happening that are harm plant life a lot more than CO2 concentration helps it - such as extreme weather events.
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2024-07-06
But they still vote for a party that does more to destroy our planet than they could mitigate in 1000 years of individual action...
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2024-07-06
I'm not sure I can give you a clear answer as I don't quite fully understand how I managed to overcome it myself. What I _think_ did it was reading up around philosophy, particularly nihilism (which is where you usually end up when you dwell on this sort of thing) and then stoicism. Stoicism isn't perfect by any measure, but it is easy to move from a philosophy and worldview of nihilism to stoicism, as they are somewhat similar in their conclusions (life is sort of meaningless), but differ in the way things are fframed. I appreciate stoicism can appear as a bit of stupid and superficial philosophy, but I can attest that it is _far_ more preferable than the constant misery that is nihilism. You truly learn to appreciate the little things more. That combined with finding some other hobby or topic to supplant reading up around climate change doomerism, along with a varying amount of time spent feeling defeated and powerless because of it, and at some point you should get fed up and your brain will hopefully just sort of reject the doomerism.
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2024-07-06
https://www.statista.com/statistics/270503/change-in-co2-emissions-per-capita-by-country-since-1990/ Maybe you should see what has been happening over the last 24 years. One side of the world IS lowering their emissions. The other has increased output by over 100 percent. Canada's per capita emissions mean nothing. Their global contribution is like a raindrop in the ocean.
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2024-07-06
Huh, TIL. The hood height really does make a huge difference if thats the only change. The old ones looked so much smaller and lighter…
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2024-07-06
We need to make it in the ultra rich’s financial interest, to make whatever change is necessary or will at least help some. Put a fire under their ass- make them worry about their lives and riches now because they don’t care about the long term and when they are gone. But the questions is, how? I do not know.
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2024-07-06
30 years ago, I saw the trajectory of the world at large and society in general, and thought "I'm not going to contibute to the problem by having kids." Now I'm horrified that all of my friends children will have to try to survive this, and secretly happy I don't have children of my own that will suffer this fate.
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2024-07-06
[Bullshit.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVBDMeuHq_U)
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2024-07-06
We are so unbelievably fine. Things will just shift slightly.
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> Coal plants in china China is increasing its percentage of energy from clean sources faster than the US, and its per capita emissions are half that of the US despite the fact much of the first world is exporting its pollution to China. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-electricity-low-carbon?tab=chart&time=2007..latest&country=OWID_WRL~AUS~High-income+countries~USA~CHN~IND~GBR~Middle+East+%28Ember%29~ISL
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2024-07-06
Oh well
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2024-07-06
Will any of them speak to the press?
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2024-07-06
But they did..
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2024-07-06
[The Great Filter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter) > The Great Filter is the idea that, in the development of life from the earliest stages of abiogenesis to reaching the highest levels of development on the Kardashev scale, there is a barrier to development that makes detectable extraterrestrial life exceedingly rare.[1][2] The Great Filter is one possible resolution of the Fermi paradox.
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2024-07-06
and it is all downhill since 1999
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2024-07-06
I don't really think it's fair to them to bring them into existence in that kind of world. Maybe you do.
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2024-07-06
I have a hunch even if this was peer reviewed and published you still wouldn't believe it.
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2024-07-06
10 billion is nothing. That's like the cost of a couple hundred missiles fired off in a war every couple weeks or so. The USA spends 850 billion a year on its military alone. The real problem with this answer is if we stop, or don't correct the underlying conditions, we'd still be accumulating CO2 under the aerosol. So if it stopped, it'd be like tossing the entire planet into a 450f degree oven. We'd have to keep doing it until Big Energy had no more fossil fuels to pull out of the earth. And that would make it pretty difficult to deliver the aerosol by plane, wouldn't it? Basically if we don't pair this idea with nuclear, renewables, and mass reforestation, we'll eventually just kind of nuke the planet as soon as we stop.
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2024-07-06
That's great, but the Earth looked very different then. For example, when Earth was 4 degrees colder than today, Boston was under a mile-thick ice sheet. Moving to 4 degrees warmer will cause changes that are similar or larger in scale. The problem is not that we'll destroy life on Earth, the problem is that we are causing a very rapid change to the face of the Earth, a rapid change in what parts of Earth are livable and where food can grow - and our infrastructure is absolutely nowhere near being prepared for handling a change that rapid.
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2024-07-06
No, offshoring started WAY before 2005 when emissions peaked
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2024-07-06
My elementary teachers were telling me this in the early 70s . And we did nothing.
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2024-07-06
Most good parents want a better life for their kids than they had. Or at least for their kids to neither struggle nor suffer. With the way the world and the economy are trending its looking more and more like future generations will have it worse and worse. It's a form of empathy. Forcing a person to be born into a potentially failing Earth feels like a not cool thing to do. My generation may be fine but it sucks to expect this future generation to deal with the problems created by their predecessors. If you can't provide a good life/future for your children it's selfish to have them.
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2024-07-06
I can see migration/water wars but fail to see how that turns into global nuclear war. Maybe someone trues to take some NATO land but most of it will be governments forced into mass murder along borders and internal fights about habitable land not China trying to invade the US
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2024-07-06
If aliens were watching us with a telescope from millions of light years away, they would be seeing earth millions of years ago. Not aware that it’s almost destroyed…
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2024-07-06
You're missing the point: "the fifth-largest annual growth in 50 years" means it's been doing nothing but growing for 50 years. We don't want it to stop growing. We want it to shrink.
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2024-07-06
But when people vote, or spend money.... they suddenly don't care about any of that.
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2024-07-06
Our only hope was extinguished a decade ago. We're fucked. That's it that's all.
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2024-07-06
Yes it is the “peer review” if any that is just as dishonest as the original fear mongering proclamation. These are Socialists that are pushing propaganda to promote “world socialism”.
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2024-07-06
But think of the shareholder value!
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2024-07-06
Mega Corp isn't the buzzword you think it is. Just say corporations like everyone else. "Mega Corp" just insinuates ONLY companies like Google and Apple are responsible. Dixie cups are responsible too.
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2024-07-06
I agree with this. We are incredibly smart and adaptable when we have to be. Look at all the places people live. We bring water to deserts. Move mountains for things. The point is, once it becomes a problem we can’t ignore, we will address it. But for now, it’s not the end. It’s not the do or die. It will be before 2100 I think, but u til then, we will slowly work on improvements until we HAVE to have a solution. At which point, we will find one. We work well under pressure.
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2024-07-06
All it takes is one idiot in charge of a country with the button.
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2024-07-06
We don't need scientists anymore!! We have Dibbledope to decipher all of our worlds ecological problems!! Thank god for that.
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