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If you can't properly feed your hostages, then free them. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Hamas needs to be destroyed. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
The reason I'm tempted to argue for genocide is because of the way the definition has been listed.
(pulled from the wiki page)
In 1948, the [United Nations](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations) [Genocide Convention](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_Convention) defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group".
These five acts were: killing members of the group,
causing them serious bodily or mental harm,
imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group,
preventing births,
and forcibly transferring children out of the group.
The only one of those I can't find evidence for is preventing births directly. Yet to see any forced terminations other than than any pregnant women who were blown to bits. But that's where my argument is coming from. I think it might be accepted as a genocide eventually, but it will take decades for that evidence to come out and to then be collated. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
If history is such a great teacher then why hasn't palestine learned to not start causing shit after getting repeatedly smacked down every single time they do? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
“Good shape” equates to “not dead at the hands of terrorists” | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
So I saw the video of the rescue operation going around yesterday. For the brief moment they were in the video, the hostages appeared healthy. They didn't appear malnourished, honestly a few of them were kind of plump. They had on clean cloths, and I didn't see any marks or bruises on their exposed skin. They weren't confined or chained or bound in any manner, in fact they were all laying on nice couches in what appeared to be some wealthy guy's living room. When it came time to sprint to cover, they all seemed to have no difficulty doing so.
I'm not saying the doctor's statements are false, I just need help understanding how I can rectify this report with the video tape evidence I saw with my own eyes. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Yes, it does. Fu6# off. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Humans adjust to anything, the mind will look for ways to deal with trauma. That's why some of the hostages had Stockholm syndrome, even after watching their friends and family killed before their eyes. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
I hope I would have the strength to because it's the right thing to do.
I am not the least bit surprised that the hostages have been abused. You would have to be an idiot to think that the people who conducted the attack and took those hostages would be capable of treating them humanely. That's equivalent to thinking that slave owners would treat their slaves humanely because it makes economic sense to. That's not how people work. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Dude, you straight up ignore and/or are attempting to mistranslate the word "Physical" to meet a narrative. "Well he didnt explicitly say physical beating, just physical thus I am going to ignore the entirety of that sentence and cherry pick something else to justify that" | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Agreed, if they didn't then IDF could safely arrest them and convict them in Military Court to be imprisoned for years under charges if throwing rocks... Or no charges at all, whatever! As long as children suffer 😄 | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
The entire world isn’t saying that though. And if you don’t think Israel has been trying to limit civilian casualties, then you’ve been living under a rock. Also, imagine if there was no Iron Dome…the world can’t even condemn Hamas and show they see the nuance of the situation, so they can fuck right off. I agree Israel could do better, but I have no better solution to propose. Israel shows it cares about every single one of its citizens, while Hamas hides behind their own citizens. History books don’t matter if you’re not even around. Israel is ensuring its survival. 8 months since the hostages were taken…unbelievable. The world can fuck right off. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
idk if ur joking | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Exactly, the left loves to say that if there’s 1 nazi at a table of 10 then there’s 10 nazis, but refuse to apply that same logic to hamas supporters at protests. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
There will never be a "perfect" combatant, there are mistakes and controversies by even the best army with the best intentions...that's just how war is.
A "good" side is identified by stated intent and the pattern of action.
Hamas have stated they want to commit genocide, killed indiscriminately and taken hostages who have been treated brutally as you have said.
The question is, are the IDF anywhere near close to the Hamas level of depravity? If yes, then there are "no good sides", if no, then "IDF is the good side". | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
I wonder why they had no food and were malnutritioned 🤔 | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
But you're all absent from the posts where hostages say they were treated okay and just watched people arm wrestle.. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Ever heard of adrenaline? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
If you don’t consider this genocide against the Palestinians, I’ve got some blankets to give you. Just because you call something a different name doesn’t change what the reality is.
Did you know that Russia is a democracy? And they’re only killing Nazis in Ukraine and liberating territories?
See the problem? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
*sigh* and here I thought we might actually have a discussion. Have a good day. Or not. I don't particularly care. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
But I read they were treated well by Hamas. Are you telling me that people who support Hamas are lying? That can’t be true.
/s | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
It seems like both sides are monsters to me.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gaza-mass-grave-hamas-b2533219.html | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
I said it in the way you might say “at least they died instantly” about some tragedy. Yes, at the end of the day it’s not really much of a difference but it’s a way to find some kind of silver lining/solace. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
I remind you that 105 hostages have been freed through negotiations with Hamas as opposed to 7 rescued by military raids.
Yeah, it is awesome to free them that way, but it is always high risk - other hostages were killed in the course of such raids (Sahar Baruch), and a brave man died during Saturday's operation - and pretty much impossible for hostages who are kept in tunnels (all seven hostages rescued so far were in buildings above ground). Frankly, it is unlikely in the extreme to be able to rescue several dozen hostages who are held in groups of 1-4 people through military raids.
That is why the overwhelming majority of the hostage families, and even most of Israelis overall (see [here](https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-majority-of-israelis-support-prioritizing-hostage-deal-over-rafah-operation/) for example) are in favor of a deal. If Hamas break their word (or just don't accept the deal as it is, which is the most generous offer they will ever get), very well, so be it, back at giving them hell, it will be their fault. But an attempt should be made.
It is too easy to play though when it's not you or your loved ones rotting in a tunnel and wondering if you have been written off. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
You'd think so, wouldn't you? Yet they can't seem to help themselves. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
And everyone standing in front of them evidently. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
No, the Palestinians were kicked out of their homes by force, and there were already people denouncing this in the 70s. The Palestinians have been victims since the British arrived, then left, then had the brilliant idea of giving Palestine to Israel, then had the very good idea of letting Israel mistreat the Palestinians and colonise the shitty land we were so kind as to leave them... and now everyone's crying because the terrorists are attacking Israel. Stop acting surprised, by dint of dehumanising the Palestinians, they become radicalised and become Hamas. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Oh. Did it hurt your feelings that I called you out on your Bullshit?
Whining and crying about Israel exclusively and how they "bomb aid" and "stop convoys" of 15 trucks, whilst ignoring the 500 trucks rotting in Egypt makes you nothing but a hypocrite.
Hell, you haven't even acknowledged in this post that Egypt blocking the aid, is a much bigger problem and contributor to the food crisis in Gaza, when compared to the minor acts by Israel. That of course would go against the propaganda your trying to spew though wouldn't it. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Source? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
I’ve been really critical of the IDF but i will say it’s nice to hear some acknowledgment that innocent civilians may have been killed rather than lumping all Palestinians into the terrorist group. It’s a step in the right direction and I appreciate that. HAMAS needs to be stopped but the Palestinian people are not collectively HAMAS they didn’t even win a majority when they were elected in due to the way the political system works there. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Say there is outrage when the most reputable journalist in the world reporting what a known liar said. The outrage isn’t with the journalist. Trump’s physician said he was 6’3” and weighed conveniently 1 pound less than obese. We didn’t take issue with CNN or FOX or the BBC reporting the exam results | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Don’t blame you for having no response LMAO. At least Google the word analogy for future use buddy. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Noah get the fucking boat | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
The problem is there isn't a unified front to protest both Israel and Hamas.
If Hamas cared about their people and their constituents had any sense, they'd realize that protesting Hamas is more realistic in securing the safety of the populace over a superpower like Israel.
Hamas is using it's citizens as cannon fodder where if they simply provided information about the welfare of the missing persons from October 7th which is a far cry from releasing any hostages, the US would have more power to force Israel to back down from their advancement into Rafah.
The only way this is resolved is if Hamas releases all the civilian hostages and provides a status update regarding any military combatants imprisoned.
Still keeping civilian hostages to this day is unconscionable.
What happened to the international Thai laborers that were taken hostage was ridiculous and there are still more international civilians unaccounted for which is inexcusable.
Israel will not stop until they rescue their people, it's ingrained in their religion.
The Palestinian people must step up and hold Hamas accountable and accept a two-state solution or this will not end. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Yea except these hostages were found in a busy neighborhood of “Palestinians” who “aren’t Hamas”. Hard to believe none of them knew the hostages were there and tacitly or actively supported it by remaining silent. In that case aren’t they just as culpable as Hamas? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Wtf does this even mean? Can you name some places that you think are fine torture hangouts? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Ask Hamas, who caused their deaths (btw, most of those were Hamas terrorists and not civilians) by first holding hostages in a civilian area, and then starting a shootout in the middle of said civilian area rather than allow the hostages to be rescued. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
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Learn to argue kiddo. Then work on your reading LMAOO | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Israel is blocking aid. You know, the ones who refuse to allow the trucks in. But you don’t care about that you just want brown people dead. It doesn’t matter what I show you, I cannot fix a heartless person who cheers on the death and starvation of children. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
All the time? Going to need proof on that because it’s so outrageous a claim. Whatever you feel about the IDF, it’s not like all the soldiers think the same. Many would condemn that behavior and want justice for the kids | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Ever heard of the fallacy fallacy.
The fallacy fallacy (also known as the argument from fallacy) is **a logical fallacy that occurs when someone assumes that if an argument contains a logical fallacy, then its conclusion must be false**. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
some of the buddhists are among the worst, see sri lanka and myanmar | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
I know you’re being sarcastic but I can see the Pro Pals justifying slavery like they’re a Southern planter circa 1859. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
When Gazan doctors say they get beheaded babies every day, there are videos available. You still refuse to believe it, how the fuck israeli doctors matter? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
You’re naive if you think these people would get justice for such a thing. Hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi citizens never got justice. Why would Palestinians?
I saw first hand accounts of the actual parents from those marches. Why do you think Israel targeted so many journalists? Went after them one by one. Easier to commit atrocities in the dark. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
I mean... Given the fact that Israel is not letting in any food or medical resources into Gaza, basically starving the whole civilian population, it is no wonder that the hostages are not given any of the barely-existent resources. I mean I doubt that the hostages would have been treated much better without the war, but since everyone is suffering there just as bad as the hostages, it's kinda the only thing that could happen. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Literally the history of the conflict can be summed up in "Arabs rejected the two state solution, Jews accepted it. Day after Britian leaves that area, Arabs launched an attack on the Jews". | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
I saw it yesterday in an Israeli article about the signs Stockholm syndrome in some of the hostages.
Can send in Hebrew if you want . | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
It's the least surprising thing in the world that these poor young people would have Stockholm syndrome after spending so long in the absolute power of their captors. It's just how the human mind works. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
A one-state solution incorporating all of Palestine and Israel would create a state which was still majority Jewish. It’d be a little over 50% rather than 80% like Israel is now, but seeing as Muslims get along alright inside Israel and 13% of the population of Palestine is Jewish I don’t see any reason that a one-state solution couldn’t work. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Typical crickets when confronted with the easiest questions. Probably because answering truthfully would lift the veil. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
What's wrong in here? so many reasonable comments.. Not the usual leftist insanity.
I thought this was reddit. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Dog political beliefs are a spectrum. Your only options aren’t liberal or what you define as a “leftist”. Anarchists, Socialists, Social Democrats, Liberals, AnCaps are all political ideals with varying beliefs that all fall under “the left”. Labeling everyone you disagree with as a liberal or leftist is idiotic.
Spend less time labeling others and more time trying to understand differing perspectives. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
right back at you fucker.
we’re counting bodies here; who has spilled more children’s blood? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Have you heard what Sinwar did to a gay Hamas commander?
https://youtu.be/suBNwUz8Lvs
This is what Hamas does to Palestinians on a regular basis. Their brutality and blood-thirst is first directed towards Palestinians and then to Israel and Israelis.
I wonder if those screaming to "Free Palestine" realize what Hamas' "freedom" to act as de facto government or state would mean for the people under them. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Can’t wait for people on the west who’s never felt a punch in their face ignore this 🔥 | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
It’s not about collective punishment. Punishment actually isn’t the point at all.
They are hostages. They must be retrieved. Some amount of Palestinians stand between soldiers and hostages. These Palestinians are a diverse gradient, from “innocent, kept-quiet-about-hostages grandmas” to the worst Hamas member.
The issue we face is that the innocent grandma is willing to keep quiet, and the Hamas member is willing to put the hostages right next to grandma.
It is not the IDF who endangered that grandma. They were not the ones who decided to involve the grandma with the hostage retrieval process.
And if the grandma stays inside her apartment and doesn’t try to interfere with soldiers, she’s significantly safer. It’s not like the IDF is room clearing entire apartment blocks without discrimination. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
"He started it" is not a legitimate justification for ethnic cleansing. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Wut | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Israel was shooting aid vans and humanitarian agencies trying to provide water and food. Constant bombing also means food stores and crops are destroyed. Hamas isn't carpet bombing Palestine, Israel is and also committing war crimes. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Adding to this list:
In The United States, a Palestinian refugee assassinated, US Senator, Robert F Kennedy during his presidential nomination campaign. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Your pathetic fake empathy is worthless.
The pro-Palestinian protesters didn’t march when 300,000 were killed in Yemen, 400,000 in Sudan, 500,000 in Syria; so I can infer from this that there is a number of civilian casualties that they are okay with.
Would you be alright with 100,000 civilian deaths if that meant a permanent end to Hamas, and a guaranteed rebuilding of Gaza by a UN-installed government?
Why should anyone care about the lives of these people who continue to shelter terrorists? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
What part is that? I'm curious. Thanks. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
You can admire people and dislike what their politicians are doing. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-11-06 |
Poor bastards were so confused after going through that, they believed they were being assisted by a time traveling scientist. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Oh yes they will… | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
But by that logic no country should have taken Afghanistani refugees in 2021 after the taliban got into power again? Because the actions of the taliban reflects the actions of the citizens? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
How's this, if I wanted to move to Israel and my Jewish neighbor wanted to, who would they let move there?
The idea the country made for one religious ethnic group isn't a religious country is moronic. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Israel has a history of lying and spreading misinformation online. Can't exactly call someone a nutjob because they are suspicious of this news | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Pro Hamas sentiments are misguided and only hurt the pro palestine movement and I hesitate to make comparisons on human suffering - but the story of 4 hostages vs the countless thousands of civilians murdered and captured just arent comparable. Hamas is a terrorist group who will continue to perpetrate heinous acts, Isreal is no different. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Name another group of people that incited violence, assassinations, and uprisings in every country that gave them refugee status. I’m serious, name one. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
What does naming another group have to do with this? No other terrorist group that I know are in power that represent the action of refugees. This is between PLO and taliban. PLO and taliban are both terrorists that are in power. You defend the statement that palestinian refugees are dangerous because of the actions of the PLO. So why aren’t afghan refugees dangerous based on the actions of the ones in power, the taliban? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
They were being held in the house of a journalist and doctor. So correct, it doesn’t look like a place where they torture people. Civilians were holding the hostages.
If you don’t want to get shot and get everyone shot around you, don’t hold hostages 🤷♂️ | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
What are they saying then? A ceasefire called today means Hamas stays in power. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Because we don't have the same lobbying for them on social media as for Palestine. It shouldn't be surprising that this lobbying is paid and facilitated by Iran and China. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Probably not, because Hamas combatants are not uniformed. If Hamas actually cared about its civilians, they would attempt to be identifiable. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
And Israeli surrender will lead to peace in Gaza under Hamas rule how? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
When you look at what the primary "news" source is for GenZ and China's position on the conflict, it's pretty clear. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Sure, yet somehow pro-terrorist propaganda seems to appear alongside pro-Palestinian protests constantly. Remember when the convoy in Canada started attracting Nazi/white power imagery and the convoy participants were like "that's not all of us" and the general response was "uh, if you're at a protest that garners Nazi imagery, you're at a Nazi protest"? It's like that. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Where the fuck does the article say what the headline is reporting???? I don't see anyone saying they were 'beaten' everyday.
They were subjected to the same treatment as an average Palestinian civilian. Should tell you a lot. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
So you are cool with 100 brown civilians dying to save 4 Jewish? Or perhaps, is this not as simple as YOU like to make out? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Agreed. It’s a completely complex situation and issue. But my point is simply, to those who want to support the Palestinians, it just doesn’t make sense to me for them to be supporting a terrorist organization like Hamas. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
“Isn’t decreasing by any meaningful metric” The videos of little kids blown to pieces aren’t enough? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
That’s literally what the IDF said | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
I didn't tell him anything. I simply asked if he could have a calm discussion without it. I believe people should have the freedom to say what they want. But that doesn't mean that using profanity is a constructive thing to do. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean it's always the right thing to do. Understand the difference? | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Well of course you don't have time. That would mean you might have to actually engage in a constructive dialog. Which would require thinking, an open mind, and a willingness to understand other points of view. That's the last thing a Leftist wants to do. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
All I asked is for you to understand Hamas and their impact both on the conflict as well as the Palestinian people themselves, and you immediately went into this direction. It makes me truly sad that you read that and immediately thought I was insinuating anything like that.
If you really cared about those 100 lives, you'd take the time to learn about the organization that's happy to sacrifice them to draw out the reaction you just had. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Where did I ask for sympathy? Are you saying "oh I don't care that Hamas invades, rapes, kills, and tortures because their number is smaller"? Do you not understand what I'm saying is that Hamas is happy to sacrifice these babies to draw out this reaction from you?
Again, I condemn Israels actions throughout this conflict. Innocent people being killed is absolutely horrific and inexcusable, but when you ignore or excuse Hamas' behavior just because "oh they're terrorists of course they do that", then you're simplifying a conflict in a way that will lead to them using these people as fodder AND not helping to move towards any meaningful and lasting resolution. And that makes anyone doing that a fake ally to the Palestinian people, and nothing more than reactionaries who don't understand what's really going on here. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Maybe you should reread the thread. Because you've clearly missed the entire point while being wrapped up in being angry.
If you really cared, you'd be screaming for an end to Hamas and giving meaningful insight into how we can move forward WHILE you condemned the actions of Israel. Not yelling for a ceasefire while ignoring the tens of times this exact cycle has happened in the past. But hey, all you really want to do is not hear about it anymore, I guess. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Then perhaps that should be a vocal part of these ceasefire protests. But they arent. Welcome to the conversation.
I'm glad you understand this though. And I'm glad you feel that way. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Usually (as the case here) they don't respond and then go spewing their antisemitic bullshit elsewhere. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
That’s just mental illness. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
The point is we need to be vocal about Hamas just as much as Israel if we want any meaningful resolution, and that we need to TALK about that resolution. Not just scream "please stop fighting" while perpetuating a cycle that has happened over and over again. Or did you think this would be the first ceasefire in this conflict?
Really the broader point is to ask people to understand Hamas and how they've been perpetuating the conflict, so that we can understand a ceasefire is going to need meaningful terms and conditions. And that there will never be peace while Hamas exists. I just want people to understand how much damage they do to their own people, even in peaceful times. That's all.
If you can't understand that, or you want to deflect it, idk what else to say to you. You and many responses like you immediately painted me as an opponent to the conflict and an Israeli apologizer. That makes me truly sad. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Go on then. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Crazy how y'all didn't read what I said?
Are you illiterate or something? I'm simply not defending anyone. Just telling the truth, war is a propaganda itself. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Wouldn’t hurt you to show some empathy towards people who are being brutally murdered because of their sexuality | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
I agree on your distinction of the Islamic republic regime from Iranians generally.
I would point out that Palestinians are characterized as supporting the Hamas regime in Gaza also - and official polls by international agencies bear this opinion out even if there have been no official elections since 2006. Do the official polling results of the Islamic regime also count as evidence against Iranians?
I feel like people who cannot vote their conscience are even less likely to publicly express support for alternative parties or to condemn a horrible regime in public terms. Yet these are the criteria which "support" is often reduced to, by people in positions of democratic privilege, and this derived understanding of "support" is further leveraged to justify the treatment of Palestinians.
> "They had no protein, so their muscles are extremely wasted, there is damage to some other systems because of that,” he said, adding that...the supply of food and water varied, and that they were moved a few times...
> "There have been periods where they got almost no food whatsoever,” Pessach said. “There were other periods where it was a little better, but all in all, the combination of the psychological stress, malnutrition or not getting enough food or not getting the right kind of food, medical neglect, being limited to space, *not seeing the sun* and all of the other things have \[a\] significant effect on health."
Apart from "not seeing the sun" I could use the above statements about hostages to describe Palestinian civilians in Gaza living under the Netanyahu/Hamas regime. There is no serious idea that these people will be rescued or return to their homes. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
Iranians have been very vocal about their disgust with this regime though. For years, they’ve been protesting on an off. In terms of elections, despite significant fraud, a small portion of the population voted. Every party in power is dirty, they avoid voting to show their dislike for the regime. I think the latest wave of protests with the woman, life, freedom movement has demonstrated how they feel pretty clearly. I also think most people abroad are aware of this too, because the diaspora is very vocal about the issue. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-12-06 |
I’m too tired to go searching to link it and besides, you don’t need a link. Use logic. Would you ever feel like you were treated well after being kidnapped? You can google Noa and October 7 yourself and see what they did to her. Does she look happy being taken by that terrorist? Do you think her mind was at ease and at peace and just relaxing while she was kidnapped and taken from her family? She knew her mom was dying of cancer and didn’t know if she’d ever be rescued. Would you just be chilling and thinking everything was ok as long as they fed you? Even if looking on a scale of worst case accommodations can you still think that any amount of that means she was treated well? None of it is justifiable. Even if they kept her at a 5 star resort she was still kidnapped and taken against her will. | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-13-06 |
Ok IDF propaganda brigade with your Trust Me Bro source.
And I am using logic which is why I'm questioning this article and your point. Its a complete contradiction | r/worldnews | comment | r/worldnews | 2024-13-06 |
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