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No, it isn't. Recognition itself is not considered to be an important attribute to be considered a sovereign state. International law does not discriminate based on whether a country is recognized or not, as international law is meant to apply to all. The most accepted definition of an independent country within international law is generally agreed to be the Montevideo Convention. According to the Montevideo Convention; "The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: (a) a permanent population; (b) a defined territory; (c) government; and (d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states." Taiwan (ROC) has A, B, C, and D. Article 3 of the Montevideo Convention explicitly states that "The political existence of the state is independent of recognition by the other states". The European Union also specified in the Badinter Arbitration Committee that they also follow the Montevideo Convention in its definition of a state: by having a territory, a population, and a political authority. The committee also found that the existence of states was a question of fact, while the recognition by other states was purely declaratory and not a determinative factor of statehood. Again, the reality for us here in Taiwan is that we are a sovereign and independent country. No other country or authority aside from the democratically elected government has any sort of jurisdiction, sovereignty, or authority over the island of Taiwan or the people living here. Our own flag flies over our capital, and that is our reality.
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You ok?
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Cool. And what happens to you if the US Navy stops allowing you that luxury?
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Fuck you chinaboy, you know you're a piece of shit. Smelly fuck
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Dude. This is an online space. The smell is coming from you.
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Maybe. The US public and a fair amount of the political community is very war-weary.
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Just the Russian war machine and the friendly neighbourhood Chinese military.
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2024-11-06
My friend, while I'm generally of the same mind about the CCP stealing.a lot of western tech, I assure you that you are vastly underestimating the difficulty of making these machines.
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I guess the enshitification begins
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Milk it till it's dead, then butcher the corpse and sell that too
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Oh well, time to but a Pi, download RaspiOS and whatever else is free because it will get worse after this...
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2024-11-06
Always have been. Pis stopped being good for anything (except low power scenarios) ever since they started costing more than £30.
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And? Oh no, friday! And we all know the world is scheduled to implode on thursday!!!
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Yeah the average person just things corporate it works like home IT The amount of bullshit people want connected to WiFi or asking for usb access and refusing to give a reason is unreal Half the time we could have found a solution to what they wanna do, if they had let us investigate and find the appropriate product but we only find out after they have bought 50
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You can buy a brand-new N100-based system for under $200.
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It’s a public company, majority owned by the raspberry pi foundation (aka a charity). Nothing will change. The charity is still the one in control of the company.
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first new iterations of new products will probably be alright. there is the honeymoon period so that folks dont just run away. but in time, Pi will become like all of the public offerings have eventually became.
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> Nothing will change That's not possible. Could we please stop believing that our favourite companies won't be as shit as every other company? Going public has exactly one route, enshitification and worsening.
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There's already a whole boatload of other SBCs out there, the community will find the ones worth a shit sure.
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I think the MBA crowd is starting to see that it takes a very long time to build a reputation and only 1 bad decision to completely ruin it. It's too late for most of them though as they've already screwed everying up royally.
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They’re all made by Sony anyway, the majority of which in Wales
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You’d be surprised. We have tons deployed in our agriculture/industrial environments doing everything from sensor data collection/aggregation to microservice apps. Rather than using vendor locked sensor systems, like temperature monitoring which costs 10’s of thousands, we rolled out $50 pi 4’s with sensors that ship measurements to a central logging app. Saves massive amounts. Pi’s are bloody reliable.
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But no halts
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They are in a lot of other devices in the form of the computer modules. So they don't look like pi's but they are there
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I saw this and my heart fucking sank.
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My only regret is not installing proxmox earlier. I tinkered with running docker containers in a Linux server, running services on a trunas server, I had home assistant on a raspberry pi because getting it running in docker was too complicated… Every time I ran into an issue, there was always an easy solution. That solution was usually to run whatever I wanted on its own machine. Example: home assistant on docker took me hours to set up, but installing it as the OS is super super easy. So instead of running out and buying a new PC/raspberry pi or wiping my machine and installing a new OS, I can just whip up a new VM for that service and it works exactly how it would if I did have a dedicated machine just for that purpose.
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Minority shareholders still have rights that require the company to maximize profit above all else.
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Ticker?
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On the flip side though, you getting a super cheap little computer sourced from parts all over the world was a product of capitalism. Basically, you’re not sick of capitalism. You’re sick of lack regulations on capitalism.
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Don't even start me on this merger, we were already in the middle of one when they decided they wanted to devide the company up, but in a different way, so we are effectively trying to take 3 companies and make them 2 at this point, but ripping parts of each out and transplanting them into others one without any downtime. But also undoing a lot of the stuff we just did, but only for certain locations etc Nobody here has time for the day to day projects. Never mind the fact that I just noticed that Microsoft now let you download Microsoft store apps directly from the website , with no UAC prompts , and it can force reinstall the actual MS store and all the Xbox stuff and other crap etc we had already ripped out. all without admin on the system. But we can't just block the MS store as a whole because it breaks teams, office updates and other random stuff. I'm just ranting now lol
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My guess is they’re going to just further highly prioritize business customers and hobbyists will be several ranks down. Those customers will get their products before anyone else since they are buying bulk and on-contracts. I can also foresee a day when they try to just become mostly a chip design company, and the boards are separated into industrial and developer models. So if you, a hobbyist, want to buy a $500 pi7 dev board from digikey you can - but makes no sense. Then they can sell support contracts, sales engineering services, etc.
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My only thought was something like an esp or a normal arduino and communicating via usb-> serial Is there something else I don't know about?
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Honestly, if they had official compatibility with Windows on ARM, that would be huge. Of course, they’d still have to keep Linux support or they’d alienate all their existing users
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As a long time RPi user, this is not a unique enough company to be worth anything and will be proven in a couple years. Competition is cheaper, hardware is better with the only thing to catch up on is support/community. Clones already exist, there’s nothing differentiating RPi once cheap clones flood the market. There is no company, its brand recognition. Other companies have even usurped RPi in their own market with even better products. RPI was meant to be cheap computers and they succeeded in the hobby space but now the market is now saturated with differentiation all but gone… it’s like trying to sell Kleenex when 50 other brands exist
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A British company on a British stock exchange... what US laws do _you_ think apply?
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the beginning of the end
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Jeff Geerling on Youtube almost exclusively covers Pi's and its competitors and its a very active space. Unfortunately the Pi wins for most uses because its ecosystem is hard-carrying it. Many competitors are already producing boards that beat the Pi on every metric but the Pi just has so much advantage in terms of compatibility and support in both software and hardware. Most people are going to happily give up the extra $20-40 for a PI that performs 20% worse due to the time they'll save getting their project working.
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What terrible, terrible news
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No no the pro version is in the exclusive “pro black” color, it will enhance your entire workflow
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Rip raspberry pi you were a real one
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Their fiduciary duty is to the shareholders and not to the customers. Enshitification indeed.
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Raspberry Pi 6 - Requires a subscription Just watch
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LEDs start flashing morse code ads
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Can’t find the ticker symbol anywhere. Anyone know what it is?
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I guess I won't bother buying from them any more.
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Aren’t the founders a charitable foundation? They still own the majority of the shares I think. 
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Pi4s are $40 and Pi5s were $75 at microcenter over the weekend
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That doesn’t seem liken it should be legal; gotta protect the haves first Our system is so fucked up
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Huh? Don't they already have arm64 support? https://raspberrytips.com/windows-11-on-raspberry-pi/
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Great now Google can buy this company and turn off its ability to block ads.
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Even my 2-3.5 year old PC hardware has issues (B550 mobo, Ryzen 3600, 3080 Ti). Installers at least don't crash during installation now like they did two years ago, but I still see issues with applications mysteriously crashing or inexplicable hardware issues out of the box even now with most distros I've tried. I could troubleshoot sure, but from past experience I don't trust that it won't get worse and even harder to troubleshoot later if it's having that many problems right out of the gate. It doesn't help that I like many people have an nvidia card. I get that AMD has better support for consumer desktop Linux, but nvidia is just a better option for me in nearly every other way (CUDA and DLSS especially).
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This is normal in america too at least if it’s essentially an ipo which it seems to be, even in the NYSE ipos tend to be closed door affairs you have to be invited to take part.
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The board of directors is supposed to get the executive talent on contracts that specifically prevent this, "golden handcuffs" if you will
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> If you are trying to use a Pi as a desktop PC you are using it wrong that was never the pi's goal. That's the problem with people looking at tech like they're hammers. All they see are nails. The pi was envisioned as something cheap for parts of the world to at least have SOMETHING to learn on. Yea it's gonna struggle to run minesweeper but it's like buying a power wheels jeep and getting pissed it won't climb the sand dune.
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Another Proxomx enjoyer checking in
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Not really, in America insiders don't get multiple days of restricted access after IPO.
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> It was a nice run while it lasted. It stopped years ago during the pandemic.
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It depends. If I'm making enough money already, I wouldn't sell out.
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I think it ended a while ago. 
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Then you're probably paying a ridiculous amount for a Siemens service contract.
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I meant that they are not giving away donuts out of the goodness of their heart, it’s only because they think it will lead to more profit down the line in terms of brand recognition / advertising / etc. Their shareholders are probably very happy about it (or if they’re not, they will soon stop doing it). 
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there goes a good thing. It will get enshitified by shareholders.
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And so is raspberry pi. Point is that if going public causes raspberry pi to decline in quality, there are plenty of alternatives. It won’t ultimately affect anybody’s ability to get and use the hardware they need.
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Fucking why, god dam capitalism
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Oh, and all of the Pi alternatives are way worse as far as being for-profit and having shitty quality/support.
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The only good thing about rpi was that it was well supported. You could get a better “deal” going with other products but you lose software support. Support won’t be going away. Hopefully it lets them build better products with actual funding.
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Buddy, it’s an example of a time when a company started adding other things. Jesus dude “Stuff” is a catchall for anything that will decrease the performance of future equipment; AS AN EXAMPLE such as DRM or shittier hardware Hence my question still stands; is it worth getting a Pi *now* before the downward trend begins. Whatever is up your butt seems painful, take a breath
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Even the really nice computer and iPhone you’re probably using. Don’t forget the ability to start a business and prosper. Damn all that sucks
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It was never the cheapest, not even when the first Pi came out. Mini PCs always existed and could be had for around $100 or less. The Pi really took off around the same time as all those cheap-ass Intel Atom processors. There was no price hike. Scalpers were selling at absurd prices, not the Pi Foundation.
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What’s the alternative lol. Move to North Korea if that’s better. No cApItALiSm or its products. You don’t need that iPhone or fancy computer. Food…. Nah you don’t need that.
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tbh this is pretty normal. IPOs arent a guaranteed price floor, theyre just a projection.
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Private equity cut corners to make companies look profitable and sell in 3-4 years after acquisition. Been and seen through multiple and none were value add. Cost savings, less for more .
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I have a 5700g (B550 mobo) and a 7600x + RX 6750 XT (B650 mobo), and neither of them have any problems running Ubuntu or Linux Mint. I suspect at least 95% of the issues people have with Linux are Intel/NVidia related. If none of the core Linux developers have your GPU in their system, but it's an AMD model, then they tend to just copy-paste AMD's driver source, push it to beta, and see if anyone complains. If none of the core Linux developers have your GPU in your system, and it's not an AMD, then you're SOL because the drivers aren't open source. They can't just copy-paste the code, push it to beta, and see if someone complains. All you can really do at that point is hope that more Linux developers buy the model of GPU that you own, because once they realize it doesn't work, they'll start looking for a solution.
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TIL! I used to check woot everyday and immediately realized when it went absolute dogshit when it was just all full priced garbage.
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So you have no idea how they would be able to fuck up a future product, or why selling a minority of their shares would lead to no other path than a shittier product?
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Workers from all over the world, creating products that are then sold and shipped internationally. This is an entire system which depends on capitalism to function.
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Majority shareholder means majority votes. The Raspberry Pi Foundation completely controls the company.
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So, basically what you're saying is that we should just give up and return to a system where people are appointed wealth through violence or birthright? So that some benevolent being can protect us from ourselves and our greedy ambitions?
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They already did that back when they created a for-profit arm. The point of selling these shares is to raise capital/money, just like they've done with expanding product lines, adding accessories, expanding their commercial offerings, and more, all long before this IPO. And what did they do with that money? They invested it right back into the non-profit foundation. So ask yourself, would it make any sense for them to shit on their own product just so they can make even more short-term profit, event though that just goes right back into the non-profit? Even if the CEO set himself up with a fat salary, he wouldn't need IPO money for that. No, they need IPO money to make their own chips, which they started to do with the Pico, and have said they want to do more of. Open hardware, supporting the community and education, which is the mission of the Raspberry Pi Foundation. \*sarcastic jazz hands\*
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It makes backups so easy.
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You either know the answer to your own question, which means you’re educated in economic philosophy or you really don’t know the answer, which means you should get educated. Either way there’s nothing I can say in a comment that will answer your question. I could recommend some reading, but I see no reason to reinvent the wheel when well-thought-out arguments support my positions already and I can point you to them.
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But capitalism bad
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Why say the truth if the truth is boring and doesn't incite anger
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If I pay more will they finally have a REAL random setting that's truly random every time? I kid, I know randomness is something we lost with WinAMP in the 90s/00s
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Random? Like the full catalog, or random as in it will allow repeats?
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We will buy the best in the world.
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They could be counting the combined number of man hours from a whole working company or something of that nature vs letting a computer do it.
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It's manpower hours not hours in a day.
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"Need for Responsible Capital Management" is Intel's way of saying "We don't feel safe doing business in your country; but if you sweetened the deal, we could see our way to feeling safe again."
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