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As stupid as it seems the Russian information warfare does work and influences people. The western powers are utterly incompetent in defense against this type of warfare.
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2024-15-06
As the other guys have already stated.. peace is the objective, not the solution. The solution is for the aggressor to cease their aggressive actions and to respect international laws, but Russia is unwilling to accept reality.
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2024-15-06
as a ukrainian who lived in donbas crimea norilsk moscow and boston - US/Europe are not able/willing to defend Ukraine against Russia, so Ukraine's should have stayed with the Russian planted president and let Russia do to them whatever it wants and hope it doesnt get invaded. it is better to be under russia then just have your cities leveled by them. ukraine allying with the US and goin democratic just threatens Putin too much. they were mislead about becoming more western like. it isnt possible because russia wont allow it and nobody will defend them. so it isnt an option
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2024-15-06
Well russia cant really stop ukraine from leaving its sphere of influence. The majority of ukraine decided that it doesnt want to be ruled by corrupt puppets. So while many are dying on both sides the matter is decided. You cant rule millions of people against their will. It probably will take a few more years maybe even a decade but ukraine will be free and independent.
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2024-15-06
Wow. That's certainly a take. Is this sarcasm?
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2024-15-06
And 500 000 have been killed. Math checks out.
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2024-15-06
what can stop russia from shooting rockets at ukraine in perpetuity? they cant even stop old plain russian artillery. imagine is mexico decided we are the source of their problems and allied with china and gone communist. we would invade them!
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2024-15-06
noo. even my ukrainian grandmother is leaning this way now. Russia gets to dictate to ukraine not to ally with the US. or they will destroy it which is what they are doing. US failed to defend ukraine plain and simple. it is a slow motion destruction. and by defend i mean PREVENT russia from invading or kick them out soon after. that has not happened! we are fed promises that is all. ukraine had a CHANCE to not get invaded if they accepted to be under russian influence and not go western. they would be poor and would not have control over their country but there would be no war. not guaranteed but at least they would have a good chance.
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2024-15-06
No the US wouldn’t invade mexico because they would seek deeper ties with china or russia. They would get sanctioned etc. bot not military invaded. And while ukraine is hurting so is russia. Ukraine is now much bolder with sending drones to attack Russia proper and the quantity will just increase in the next months and years.
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2024-15-06
> MAKS 24 🇺🇦👀 @Maks_NAFO_FELLA 🇨🇿🇺🇦 "The first batches of shells within the framework of the Czech initiative are already arriving to Ukraine", - Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Czech Republic. >https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1801881731638722718
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Kherson’s regional governor, Oleksandr Prokudin, has said a third support centre has been opened to support residents of the Kherson region who were forced to leave their homes due to the war. >“The humanitarian office of the Kherson region has become operational in Kyiv. Every day, its employees serve more than 100 displaced people who have found temporary shelter in the capital and the region. And according to official data alone, there are more than 50,000 such people,” he wrote on Telegram. >Grocery kits, free legal support and psychological support are provided in the centre. >Kherson is among the regional settlements west of the Dnipro River which have reported near-daily Russian strikes since Ukraine recaptured the area in November 2022, and Russian troops were pushed to the river’s east bank. [https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/jun/15/russia-ukraine-war-peace-summit-switzerland-vladimir-putin-volodymyr-zelenskiy](https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/jun/15/russia-ukraine-war-peace-summit-switzerland-vladimir-putin-volodymyr-zelenskiy)
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2024-15-06
The western politicians are rarely right when it comes to military aid. It has always been delivered way too behind Ukraine's needs. And training of pilots and the support staff takes a long time.
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2024-15-06
It stopped Russia didn't it?
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2024-15-06
No. Russia escalated in Syria up until the moment Erdogan apologised and arrested the 2 pilots. In the following years Turkey cozied up to Russia even going as far as to buy S400.
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2024-15-06
But there were no more planes violating Turkish airspace, right?
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2024-15-06
Thanks for posting his lists! Haven’t seen it the past few days and I don’t have access to X.
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2024-15-06
Yeah but in a drone and artillery war, many of the wounded are missing limbs and not coming back to battle.
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2024-15-06
The only thing US has been right about each time US and Ukraine disagree is that Abrams tanks are useless in this conflict at the numbers they have been given.
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2024-15-06
you wish vatnik scum)
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2024-15-06
> “When they field these capabilities, you want them to be able to field them in an effective way. An F-16 is no good if it’s eliminated on the first day,” said one senior Defense Department official If senior NATO defence officials are saying this then I'm inclined to believe them. Not everything is as simple as "everything at maximum all at once", there's layers of nuance involved here that is not comprehensible to us laymen on Reddit.
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2024-15-06
I would doubt it.
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https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1801933749082276349?t=1eRY5apTpKEbXakraQ-B2w&s=19 "🇩🇪🇺🇦 "NATO headquarters for coordinating assistance to Ukraine will be located in Germany", - Stoltenberg ❗️"The supply of weapons and repair of military equipment will be coordinated there. So the alliance will take a greater role in coordinating arms supplies to Ukraine."
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2024-15-06
I wonder if this could be used to increase the range of drones.
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2024-15-06
They attack with same loses about 6+ month? I don’t think something change during June
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2024-15-06
It's already been done by Ukraine
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> In Switzerland, I met with my Iraqi counterpart @Fuad_Husseein and thanked Iraq for taking a principled stance and attending the Global Peace Summit. > We both agree that this summit is the first step toward achieving a just peace in Ukraine based on UN Charter principles. > We also discussed ways to enhance relations between Ukraine and Iraq, particularly in terms of political dialogue, economic cooperation, and inter-parliamentary dialogue. https://x.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1801955849075667092 > Pleased to meet for the first time with Monaco’s Foreign Minister @IBerroAmadei and thank Monaco for taking part in the Global Peace Summit.  > I underlined the importance of Monaco's participation in the Peace Formula implementation, specifically its first point on radiation and nuclear safety.  > We also discussed practical steps to deepen bilateral cooperation. https://x.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1801963445207675109
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2024-15-06
Ask the Soviet Union.
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> During the Global Peace Summit, I met with Georgia’s President @Zourabichvili_S. > We discussed bilateral cooperation and security challenges facing our countries. I informed President Zourabichvili about Russian air terror against Ukraine's energy sector. Our country is making every effort to restore energy generation. > I thank Georgian President for her support and participation in the Peacr Summit, which is very important for us. We are together. > I am confident that the day will come when Ukraine and Georgia will be part of the European Union — together and forever. 🇺🇦🇬🇪 https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1801981582460260533 > I met with Chile’s President @GabrielBoric and thanked him for his decision to participate in the Global Peace Summit.  > We discussed the summit’s expected outcomes and further steps to implement the Peace Formula, including meetings on its specific provisions. > We also discussed our bilateral cooperation. 🇺🇦🇨🇱 https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1801977930991493305
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2024-15-06
I tried to appeal the ban, but I was told it was against the rules.. But Russians calling in death in everyone else is usaly ok
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2024-15-06
The mobilisation is going according to plan: Russian servicemen of an assault company are turning to the prosecutor’s office demanding an explanation for their presence in Ukraine. The men were kidnapped from Russian territory and transferred to Ukraine, despite all of them having medical certificates and injuries. Some do not have the right to carry weapons due to psychological problems. But Putin needs meat. https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1801885686011773299?t=tibZLbzgLRkQh_bmDiz3uA&s=19
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2024-15-06
Am I right in recalling that the Georgian president is the normal one, and the prime minister is the pro-Russian one?
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2024-15-06
Future NATO general-secretary on fire 🔥🔥🔥
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Transcript of Zelenskyy's speech at the Global Peace Summit: https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/sogodni-den-koli-svit-pochinaye-nablizhati-spravedlivij-mir-91561
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2024-15-06
And as the Ukraine War itself has demonstrated: Western air defense networks have advanced to the point where almost anything Putin launches at the West will be shot down en route. People were telling me I'm full of it when I said this a few years ago, but now we see even the Patriot, an older US system not even specialized in shooting down ballistic nukes, is effective against even Russias newest weapons. Good luck getting anything into US mainland airspace.
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>...even if the planes or trucks which carry them can actually move, they may not detonate.  Oh cool, let's bet on that!  I'm all for standing up to bullies, but hoping that his a-bombs have all been replaced by balls of hay is the stupidist thing I've read today.  And I've been reading Elon Musk posts.
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Was sort of my take on it too. His Black Sea fleet is decimated, weapons systems and storage decimated, weapon systems shown to be mostly ineffective against western weapons. The sanctions are causing an economic collapse, now the people are starting to realize this given the baking issues.
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2024-15-06
nonsense. he will do what's necessary when it is. they don't have what they need to push these bastards out yet, what your talking about is throwing away lives like Russia does
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2024-15-06
> they had some borderline nazi people I think it goes a bit further than this. They had obvious nazi imagery on their unit insignia-- the frickin' black sun, of all things-- and were founded by a bunch of nazis. I believe they are mostly depoliticized now, though.
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2024-16-06
If they can train Ukrainian trainers who can then train Ukrainian pilots (especially if they can skip teaching new pilots English, or at least as much English), that would be really helpful.
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2024-16-06
Nazi insignia vs actual nazi actions by the Russians. Why are so many people so fucking stupid that they focus on the former? 
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2024-16-06
Unlikely
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Nah, dude. You really don't want to have military units infested by Neo-Nazi elements, even if you're fighting something that appears even worse right now. Early criticism of Azov, as a result, made sense (as does continued watchfulness).
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2024-16-06
Have a degree in physics and engineering or are you just couch bullshitting? 
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2024-16-06
Clearly but Russians are actually fucking nazis without the insignias and a lot of people have been fooled to still support them. 
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2024-16-06
Russia is attacking Ukraine from many angles, including from within.  That means the Russians are doing everything they can to corrupt and purchase Ukranian politicians and has been for decades.  One reason to be patient with nato ascension is to ensure that Russian corruption has been defeated and purged from the Ukrainian government completely.  Ukraine has been fighting to do so for a long time now but that fight isn’t over yet and we can’t risk bringing a Belarus into nato by accident because we let Ukraine in before the Russians were completely expunged.   
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Yep. I’ve been flying the Ukrainian flag at my house since about a week after the invasion (it took that long for me to find one). It will stay up until victory. Also, there is a beautiful pro-Ukraine mural on a major street near me, here in Phoenix, Arizona. Ukraine has a lot of support in the US.
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2024-16-06
You just destroy the Kerch bridge and the entirety of Crimea and the Russian occupied Kherson region is fucked in a matter of days/weeks. It takes a lot of logistics *to feed millions of people*. The only other supply line into Crimea can already be targeted by Ukraine. That would mean Russia would have to Abandon Crimea and Kherson. That's two occupied regions that would be immediately effected. Even Russian defenses had a hard time fighting against the Ukrainian counter-offensive and almost broke multiple times. So going defense isn't really a option.
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[New post can be found here](/r/worldnews/comments/1dgz9wt/rworldnews_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/)
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2024-16-06
Just look into Wagner and you'll find the insignias...
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2024-16-06
Possible? For sure. A lot can change in a few months. Likely? Not particularly.
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2024-16-06
This is only wishful thinking. 
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2024-16-06
>which means joining NATO is useless for Ukraine. This conclusion doesn't necessarily follow your setup logic.
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2024-16-06
No one disputes Russian meddling in the affair of other countries, Ukraine included. I dispute your claim that its scale made the decision makers inside NATO stop Ukraine from joining.
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I don’t think you have that the right way round. China is very much the bigger player. Russia will do what China tells them to.
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2024-15-06
> only pushes them further into Russia's sphere of influence Good comment, would be correct if it wasn't  20-30 years late.
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2024-15-06
The intention is not to block russia to sell oil, it is only to make russia get less paid. I.e. 60usd/barrel. If the oil supply was actually cut of from world trade oil price would skyrocket and cause mayhem also for the west. This is a middle way to avoid hurting west but still hurt Russia.
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2024-15-06
China has no interest in stopping hostilities as it weakens both Russia and Nato aligned countries, which is to their advantage. They want the US focused on Europe so it has fewer resources to defend Taiwan. How long until Chinese support for Russia starts involving ceding land to them?
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2024-15-06
Oh it’s an Israeli boy or a hypocrite. Either way I’m not wasting any more time with you.
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2024-15-06
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has genocidal angles as well. Torture, filtration camps, kidnapping children, ethnically cleansing areas, etc. Guess it doesn’t fit your narrative though.
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2024-15-06
Ukraine did'nt kill 1000+ russian koncert goers and kidnappede a bunch on top. Hamas and the palestinian civilians did that and deserve whatever Isreal chose to do to them.
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2024-15-06
They could release the hostages and the "genocide" would stop real fast, after that they could go back to doubling their population every 20 years in the face of "genocide"
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2024-15-06
I would look at it differently. China has a vested interest in closer economic ties with Russia given Russian resources. China also has security concerns. Given their shared borders, a “stable” Russia is much better for China than Russia spinning apart.
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From the reports I've read, absolutely. They are systematically filtering the entire population through re-education camps and prisons with the goal of suppressing and eradicating their culture. But none of the hamas lovers care about that.
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2024-15-06
That’s a really serious escalation you’re suggesting I think “wringing hands” is the next step up
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2024-15-06
The bad news is no voter in a democracy will EVER vote to decrease their quality of life. So if current leaders do that shit, the voter response will be to elect some reactionairies that undo it.
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I don’t care what you call that officially. That is a vertibird
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2024-15-06
Ospreys kind of hover in one spot before diving at its prey in the water, so it kinda checks out.
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2024-15-06
Omg. Yes. I now have a visual. Picture painted. Strapping good job mate!
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2024-15-06
Qualx
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2024-15-06
Yeah totally, not hating on the Osprey, I just sometimes wonder if the costs outweigh the benefits. Tiltrotors in general are an insanely uncommon aircraft type, with the Osprey being the only one in use, so it makes me wonder if the technical issues have kept most militaries sticking to the safer helicopters and planes instead of trying to combine the two. Hence I brought up the Valor, which is mechanically different from the Osprey and hopefully less prone to failure.
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2024-15-06
Vertibirds are property of the Enclave. From before the Great War, the Brotherhood of Steel just “borrowed” them.
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2024-15-06
Well, I mean fuck the Enclave too, but super fuck the brotherhood
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2024-15-06
That episode taught me how to spell onomatopoeia.
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I’m hoping the Valor has less issues. I was making models of the Osprey when I was around 10 years old, so it’s been in development for a long time. It’s only possible with the time and money that’s been spent on research, as well as computing power and materials science having come a long way. Without the computers for development and controlling the aircraft, and the new materials, we wouldn’t have the V22. Is it worth the cost (in lives from reliability failures)? I don’t know, looking at early helicopters I assume that they too had reliability problems but worse, and imagine more have died as a result (I don’t know the numbers though, so that is a guess).
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Safety stats are available publicly for each military branch, and they all say Ospreys are safer than any helicopter they also operate.
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Raw number of accidents or an actual ratio of hours flown per accident? How does it compare to modern helicopters versus helicopters that came into service decades ago? I see a lot of comparisons in safety records to helicopters that entered service in the 60’s which doesn’t really make sense since helicopters had only been in military service for 20 years at the time. It makes sense they would have a worse record with how new the technology was.
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The accident rate is actually fairly low. It's just that since it carries more people individual accidents are more deadly. Kinda like how light planes have really high accident rates compared to passenger jets but passenger jets get more press then they crash.
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2024-15-06
All of them
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Business is booming, which is why the war won't stop
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2024-15-06
Better call Seoul!
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One Russians experiences with them: [https://x.com/PutinSuxBalls/status/1797532046287667431](https://x.com/PutinSuxBalls/status/1797532046287667431) "Same bullshit with charges. Everything is done through the devil's asshole, in which apparently these shells are removed, simultaneously smearing them with hellish shit. The weight distribution goes hell, all the walls are plastered with paper, apparently from North Korean political papers from 1987, and generously smeared with Kim Jong il's dristrots of the same years. The charge plug is made in the same way as usual to fuck off and get lost, there is no convenient rope, no fucking way. In short, the person responsible for supplying this crap, unworthy of being called shells and charges, is clearly a representative of the LGBTQ+ community with a clear bias towards hard BDSM. I don't know how else to explain why this crap ended up in our country in the first place. I will take money so that your signature does NOT end up in this piece of squalor. Phew, I spoke out. Thank you for your attention. I'll go brew some chamomile, I need to heal my nerves".
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Aw, the bad places are friends. Trump is excited!
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With Saudi, Iran, Hungry and Turkey they could be SHIT BRICS
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They can also be upcycled as IEDs.
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I mean, it kinda does. When they say failure rate they're taking in two things: Actually getting fired. Actually hitting their target. A lot of the North Korean artillery isn't meant for precision, and so while it's nice to have more artillery in most instances, it's probably a net loss for Russia since they've had multiple early warning platforms (S-300, S-400, A-50) taken out recently. They shoot faulty shells, they lose more weapons platforms, it's not ideal at all.
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What currency did they receive? My guess is that they got ressources that Russia can't get rid of anyway
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But those failures include things like exploded barrels and dead artillery crews. Undershooting the target and hitting you own guys. Shooting a dud shell, and get nothing for it but incoming fire. All of these things count against the NK shells
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2024-15-06
Large part of it is fuel and grain.
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2024-15-06
for military targets, yes. Compare that what the US has achieved on the 100 day air war before desert storm - basically all fixed targets and infrastructure like power plants where hit. but for terrorizing the population and destroying the living and cities, Putler doesn’t care if he misses
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5 million nk doesn’t have any more sounds good
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2024-15-06
to destroy cities 4 mlns a lot.
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Also every piece that blows up needs to be replaced from somewhere else which takes time, potentially giving the Ukrainian soldiers and civilians at least some breathing room.
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How do these artillery shells make it to their destination without being blown to smithereens?
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Hyundaiberg
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NK and russia share a land border and have rail going the whole way. So anything short of going into NK and/or russia directly makes that a hard no.
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Good job N. Korea 🤣
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And imagine how big the funnel must have been that poured all those shells into the train carts!
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